< 1391213390 713535 :aergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-72-74.pptp.stw-bonn.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1391214099 306110 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391214760 484728 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: HWPL? < 1391214832 531712 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a hardware programming language. < 1391215127 47188 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391215310 27983 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I so tempted to buy a Kindle? < 1391215597 648748 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worms are eating your brain < 1391215727 327489 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: If you buy a Nook, you can root it and install the Kindle Android app. < 1391215764 996067 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to unroot my Nook (if I can find it), but don't have a usable SD card slot thing < 1391215777 549316 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, sounds like Kindle is more... sync-y than Nook < 1391217486 499885 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DRM scares me, but B&N is DRMed too < 1391218050 752547 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391218722 528493 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-161.rentec.com QUIT : < 1391219692 95392 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391219842 970685 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391221163 827892 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391221366 748271 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391221367 293055 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391221376 165218 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1391221555 958459 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1391223116 245755 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1391223305 703171 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1391223644 625280 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up this equation (where f^ represents functional powers): $$f_x(y)=\left(f^{y!}_{x-1}(y!)\right)^x+y$$ How much does the number get larger more faster? < 1391224508 272069 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391224988 288192 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to calculate $f_2(2)$ but I am not sure if I got the correct answer, and I haven't tried $f_3(3)$, or, if $n=f_3(3)$ what is $f_n(n)$ = ? < 1391226124 40438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much tacks^Wtax do you put in your 6502 programs? < 1391227986 63793 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would guess it grows Pretty Fast. < 1391227998 920679 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's f_0 < 1391228042 825066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will be to the power of zero, so f_0 is just the successor function. < 1391228057 252895 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A special case is not needed. < 1391228092 133999 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what if the inner term turned out to be zero so you got 0^0 < 1391228095 570368 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :be afraid < 1391228098 738690 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah ok. < 1391228102 711841 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything to power of zero is one. < 1391228151 179402 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even LJHG(Y#)R(N#%()YNM!_N%C|~(@|%TXOUEQ>TXOUIWEQTTEEPTJPIT{UET...NO CARRIER to the power of zero still should be just one, isn't it? < 1391228488 146402 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :f_2(2) = f^{2!}_1(2!)^2+2 = f^2_1(2)^2+2 = f_1(f_1(2))^2+2. f_1 = \y -> f^{y!}_0(y!)^1 + y = \y -> y!*y!+y. so f_1(f_1(2))^2+2 = f_1(2!*2!+2)^2+2 = f_1(6)^2+2 = (6!*6!+6)^2+2 = (720*720+6)^2+2 = 518406^2+2 = 268744780838 < 1391228492 122976 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think? < 1391228571 182359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably calculated it wrongly < 1391237006 620591 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391237041 772738 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391237285 708428 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1391240789 132171 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it is large nevertheless, but still can be written easily enough, so it isn't really large. < 1391242908 704477 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391244791 208303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1391246437 403588 :aergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-72-74.pptp.stw-bonn.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1391246536 365974 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1391247029 103763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391247055 801324 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1391247281 77352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1391247438 135740 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1391249697 302003 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT : < 1391250129 811118 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh look, an identical rhythm with one of my song ideas. In mine it alternates between that and having the high hat hit simultaneously with the first kick drum hit following the snare. http://youtu.be/oSYNhfkNGco?t=2m25s < 1391250429 4262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, accidentally ran fdisk on a partition (sde1) instead of a disk (sde): http://sprunge.us/SKSW < 1391250435 874323 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It sure doesn't, fdisk, it sure doesn't." < 1391250536 578586 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1391250563 809042 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try writing it back and see if anything breaks. < 1391250579 894530 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite a partition table < 1391250590 193102 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is opus? other than a comic < 1391250600 773855 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an audio codec < 1391250731 32426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :An old microkernel OS, apparently. < 1391250753 520709 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taligent < 1391250770 296165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Initially started as a project within Apple to provide a replacement for the Mac OS, it was later spun off into a joint venture with IBM, for the purpose of building a competing platform to Microsoft Cairo and NeXTSTEP, as part of the AIM alliance." < 1391250776 554874 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the technical term is a "dead end". < 1391250921 90208 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Found a whopping 64 megabyte CF card, was checking what's on it.) < 1391250988 606236 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could hold, like, a whopping five photos! < 1391251060 675334 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it used to hold, like, a hundred. I (most likely) used it in a jpeg-only 1600x1200 resolution camera. < 1391251395 678334 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/dcc/data/2001-2002/2002_ps-a200.html?lang=us&categ=srs&page=psa this one. < 1391251418 648538 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The A200 also features an all-glass lens --" high-end! < 1391251512 363843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Capable of a 9-seconds 320x240 (or a 26-second 160x120) movie and all. < 1391251617 863195 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lens guaranteed at least 86% dolphin free < 1391251665 228049 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though there's at least one thing in the spec sheet -- can do USB control; there was even gphoto2 support -- where it beats the succeeding camera I had.) < 1391254330 249026 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391256031 18700 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no! yet another grammar nazi trying to force people to use stupid irregular plurals for no reason! < 1391256037 735663 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate them! < 1391256064 935446 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat r u takin but < 1391256449 731482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember our (high school or the thing before that) math teacher writing 0⁰ on a blackboard, then asking "now, what's this?", then modifying it to ⁰0⁰ and going "it's Mickey Mouse". < 1391256493 592375 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh that's clearly tetration?? < 1391256632 446016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the precedence for tetration and exponentiation, anyway? Is ⁷8⁹ (⁷8)⁹ or ⁷(8⁹)? < 1391256658 222905 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391256696 671358 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe the precedence is "what the fuck are you doing" < 1391256811 11991 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: do not stand down < 1391258875 964246 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391259869 900238 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391260801 137180 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a argeed-upon substitute for 'ø' in false, should the environment prevent use of that letter? < 1391260829 528829 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ß < 1391260905 402569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :use 'oe' hth < 1391260963 102124 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1391261064 348798 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean if I'm implementing a False implementation but the environment lacks 'ø', which is False for pick < 1391261130 85784 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hi! < 1391261188 470784 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Any idea how to figure out the bit-rate of a mp4? I'm having issues playing a certain piece of media in anything except mplayer on my gaming PC, so I want to transcode it for lower bit-rate so I can play it on non-beast machines < 1391261224 748928 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even vlc on my gaming PC stutters < 1391261232 156754 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is pretty insane < 1391261813 567573 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, found it: < 1391261816 242464 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: [H264] 1280x720 24bpp 25.000 fps 2700.1 kbps (329.6 kbyte/s) < 1391261823 409412 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mplayer was able to calculate that < 1391261832 654086 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is quite an insane bitrate I think? < 1391261875 316875 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or hm what < 1391261890 210613 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it isn't < 1391262089 570537 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it then, why doesn't the video want to play on anything but my desktop, and only in mplayer < 1391262486 108210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1391262672 973865 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391263170 321901 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't know enough about H264, but from a purely abstract point of view, a lower bitrate does not necessarily mean that it's easier to decode. < 1391263317 796848 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, hm, what is the issue then? < 1391263970 121085 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but here is a bit of wild speculation: Allowing B-frames to use interpolation sounds like fun, for example. But it could also be that some filter is used that is very rare, and hence not implemented efficiently. < 1391264041 438070 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is that it comes down to codec features used, and the bitrate does not contain any information about that. < 1391264188 49692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the mplayer average-bitrate information is always terribly accurate, either. (VLC has Tools/Media Information/Statistics/Input bitrate view that can show an "instant" bitrate graph.) < 1391264253 637577 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm < 1391264302 896578 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well I'm trying to transcode it with somewhat random parameters, hoping that solves the issue. Since the input file is a couple of hours long though... Hm how do I tell ffmpeg to only encode the first x seconds? < 1391264410 153502 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah according to vlc the bitrate is 3.0 to 5.0 mbit/s. Can't find the graph though, my vlc may be too old < 1391264421 106891 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I'm on debian stable that is quite possible < 1391264508 295327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a "-t X" flag, where X is a number in seconds or in hh:mm:ss. < 1391264518 642484 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Restricts the output duration to that.) < 1391264569 168966 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes < 1391264580 328809 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Useful, I'll run some tests on the first 30 seconds. < 1391264695 932538 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391265096 792159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: there's no way that video should be playing slowly on your gaming PC at all < 1391265105 667159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something sounds very broken < 1391265242 909408 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes, and if i transcode it to even higher bit-rate (yes I know this is stupid for obvious reasons) it plays well. I guess the input stream is just super-quirky in some way < 1391265279 420399 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so I'll just transcode it to something half-reasonable to "fix" it. < 1391265363 793360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it might be a muxing problem < 1391265368 139140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try remuxing the file (don't need to reencode) < 1391265382 922729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffmpeg -i file.mp4 -vcodec copy -acodec copy file.fixed.mp4 < 1391265393 249136 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, tried that already. Didn't help. < 1391265449 140735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you upload the mp4? I kinda wanna poke at it. < 1391265498 334464 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it is 3.2 GB < 1391265507 971183 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Maybe I could do a copy of the first minute or so? < 1391265514 953045 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be reasonable < 1391265532 909478 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a couple of H.264 files that play very badly (colorful artefacts) with the VDPAU-accelerated ffh264vdpau decoder, but just fine with regular ffh264. I assume they've managed to hit some corner case too. < 1391265533 208479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: if that produces the same problem, sure < 1391265541 432941 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1391265596 443512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: probably a hardware bug, not an ffmpeg bug < 1391265635 629131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but the VDPAU decoders play all other files just fine, so it's some quirk particular to these. < 1391265675 631713 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well I tried it on a nexus tablet (dice player), a windows PC (vlc and windows media player), a mac (vlc) and two linux PCs (vlc and mplayer on both). Only gaming PC (booted to linux, haven't tried windows on it) + mplayer worked. < 1391265686 565037 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, waiting for dropbox sync... < 1391265776 809823 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also in case you wonder, it is BBC Last Night of Proms, downloaded from Swedish public service web TV. Legal private copy and so on. And the copy to you is for debugging obviously. < 1391265803 338714 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, see /msg for link < 1391265845 124499 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, interestingly it plays okay in the dropbox mp4 player < 1391265851 122500 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if they transcoded it?! < 1391265877 62224 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, here is the sha512sum so you can check it transferred properly 98ac3693b3597f3e34909d15a3eea0fe8264744b0aa29b2184cc5ad596aa1434409c416c59d24c57f5b27a6f5ce2652deb2cb833d679e227ec72a2c3cbb288e4 < 1391265921 900186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :file size in bytes would be simpler < 1391265923 528807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is on Windows < 1391265927 374387 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1391265942 811158 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :21465184 bytes (21 MB) < 1391266070 843844 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, using the download link for me, worked perfectly, checked the sha512sum < 1391266165 388413 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm pretty sure the web-player on dropbox does some transcoding, the quality looks worse than what I get from mplayer to me < 1391266179 122006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: /msg < 1391266261 182244 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, /msg < 1391267017 77183 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: /msg < 1391267017 257249 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is it time to do it with < 1391267027 773853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Yes, it is time. < 1391267028 76114 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my advisor is giving.)) be considered abusive?" " oh, my goodness you're talking about. oh, shriram's book has a ' v' like in c < 1391267058 664566 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391267085 720220 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391267219 773387 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391267281 757900 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391267871 804128 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391270450 409854 :aergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-72-74.pptp.stw-bonn.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391271106 416518 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391271126 939970 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391271127 813819 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391271572 36478 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391271887 11907 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391272015 732052 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391272241 705012 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391272321 774408 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391274505 839781 :fark-mcgee-zax!~Babyfark@cpc25-know13-2-0-cust236.17-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391274695 195930 :fark-mcgee-zax!~Babyfark@cpc25-know13-2-0-cust236.17-2.cable.virginm.net PART :#esoteric < 1391276101 172641 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391276159 944873 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1391277420 106433 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391277525 880151 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing with B&N DRM and CC nums... is the CC num required in order to be able to crack the DRM, or required to attempt to unlock the book 'legitimately'? < 1391279656 61272 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391280257 704360 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391282191 560143 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks kmc < 1391283736 900252 :aergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-72-74.pptp.stw-bonn.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1391284098 263253 :Effilry!~firefly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1391284197 202895 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391285281 17290 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391285343 169146 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391285343 934810 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391285790 427787 :a_ergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-78-41.pptp.stw-bonn.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1391285903 889691 :aergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-72-74.pptp.stw-bonn.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1391287086 205911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1391287268 521213 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1391287865 216436 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1391288027 983009 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391289726 222212 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen__ < 1391289823 741803 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.170.82 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391289873 323558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Y_combinator#Rust links to my website for some reason < 1391290016 426213 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1391290059 475210 :Effilry!~firefly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2 < 1391290110 792026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1391290127 647849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody should fix it up for Rust 0.9 < 1391290194 17921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did they rename Rec to Mu :'( < 1391290242 419551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do people just call things Mu < 1391290327 172577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140201-esoteric-2013.ogg it's bleeps and bloops time again < 1391290355 894092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, i didn't know people used opera < 1391290401 824473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that type should be called Curry < 1391290406 620126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curry a = Curry a -> a < 1391290411 194672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that would be confusing < 1391290570 630694 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's the bleeping and blooping of? < 1391291130 303598 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: One year of logs[*]. ([*] Boring details available by request.) < 1391291740 166074 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1391292801 322654 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, details please? < 1391293068 180474 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I'm interested too < 1391293323 560946 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's taking top 64 nicks (counting messages in 2013, with slight canonicalization) sorted alphabetically, then making a 64x105120 matrix by counting number of messages in all 5-minute intervals in 2013; then some remapping (sigmoid function on the values, filtering across the time dimension with a 24-frame aka 2-hour Gaussian window), then inserting all those 64 "channels" as logarithmically ... < 1391293329 576517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... equally spaced lines from 200 Hz to 3 kHz in a magnitude spectrogram (with 32 ms frames and 75% overlap) and resynthesizing a time domain signal out of it. < 1391293374 549222 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaagh! Such pain. < 1391293384 255306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can sort-of hear the day cycle, which would be 86400/300 = 288 frames, and therefore 288 * 0.25 * 32 ms ~= 2.3 seconds. < 1391293446 814240 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391293461 553588 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or at least fool yourself into thinking you hear it.) < 1391293876 180755 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The result was a short burst of the most hideous cacophony, and he stopped it. He ran the conversion program again, this time instructing it to force-map the pitch values into G minor. This was a utility he was determined in the end to get rid of because he regarded it as cheating. If there was any basis to his firmly held belief that the rhythms and harmonies of music which he found most satisfying could be found in, or... < 1391293882 292058 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...at least derived from, the rhythms and harmonies of naturally occurring phenomena, then satisfying forms of modality and intonation should emerge naturally as well, rather than being forced. For the moment, though, he forced it. The result was a short burst of the most hideous cacophony in G minor." < 1391294115 966722 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391294143 148500 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391294259 729786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beep boop < 1391294278 544943 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :supkmc < 1391294322 573275 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know any animators < 1391294399 252825 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1391294603 27931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind < 1391294685 923613 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :2d. < 1391294690 944096 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly vector < 1391294858 105245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1391294887 735815 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1391295111 841194 :atriq!5c10282d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.16.40.45 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391295806 951300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should be more careful with urls < 1391295849 78581 :atriq!5c10282d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.16.40.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1391295852 940614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm told that cool uris don't change < 1391295875 428502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i just scatter them willy-nilly in the root of my website with random names < 1391295878 907823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi atriq < 1391296092 364268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :winners don't do drugs < 1391296110 358367 :atriq!5c10282d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.16.40.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :druggers don't have wind < 1391296131 199361 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391296236 894394 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay another brainfuck clone < 1391296289 329421 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there one that just switches the meanings of [], +-, <> and .,? < 1391296310 276234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: i think phantom_hoover should do a public caning, do you agree? < 1391296315 222469 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :pipe it through tr? < 1391296326 508637 :atriq!5c10282d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.16.40.45 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: good idea < 1391296332 548351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi copumpkin < 1391296340 508605 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1391296352 695210 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: here's an idea. a bf-clone where all 8 commands all mean "choose a bf command uniformly at random and run it" < 1391296366 721601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cut-rate druggists < 1391296377 838898 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I foresee a lot of invalid programs in that language < 1391296387 680836 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: all programs are valid < 1391296400 231599 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I foresee none; it just comes down to running them often enough. < 1391296411 886064 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: what does ] do in brainfuck? < 1391296420 935406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: do you like zest < 1391296444 489517 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemon? < 1391296450 183674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance < 1391296462 686188 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though admittedly most bf interpreters that I've written will just terminate the program at the first ] without matching [) < 1391296467 720063 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: in this implementation, it would search backward for a corresponding [ and halt if it reaches the beginning of the program. alternately, we could assume every program starts and ends with infinitely [ and ] < 1391296483 281980 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391296609 613255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i assume that during the [] matching search it will determine randomly whether any given command is a [ or ] < 1391296657 445707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :drunkard's walk as a control flow structure < 1391296658 700866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it < 1391296668 700539 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sure < 1391296725 732732 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: obvi < 1391296736 95845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/SKSW < 1391296742 109342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1391296757 564040 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so if you're more than 8 characters into the program already, there's a good chance of succeeding in finding one < 1391296765 432583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit paste somehow < 1391297314 762802 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391298434 246284 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1391300426 397475 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:7dd7:a5ca:1b7d:293 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391300606 708272 :seba29!~seba29@r186-51-245-216.dialup.mobile.ancel.net.uy JOIN :#esoteric < 1391300694 354542 :seba29!~seba29@r186-51-245-216.dialup.mobile.ancel.net.uy PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, is there someone that helps me with a reading? < 1391301313 258016 :seba29!~seba29@r186-51-245-216.dialup.mobile.ancel.net.uy PART :#esoteric < 1391301685 276375 :atriq!5c10282d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.16.40.45 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1391301705 563650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1391302276 261538 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1391302815 527601 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:7dd7:a5ca:1b7d:293 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391303055 168957 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT : < 1391306405 292963 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: we should change the topic shouldn't we < 1391306405 523446 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'll just detour that... which would become fnord which would usually be otherwise impossible < 1391307493 835106 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I own a Vorapede. < 1391307508 804844 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not worth very much despite being a mythic rare < 1391307525 72707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...foot eater? < 1391307567 422362 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks a bit big to be a foot eater < 1391307603 845785 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like it would rather eat a whole person than a foot < 1391307615 372610 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=262850 < 1391307663 452232 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it eats with its feet < 1391307690 908147 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically looks like a giant snail right < 1391307732 689700 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah, considering playing Draft at FNMs < 1391307785 573700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: 5 for a 5/4 vigilance trample that becomes a 6/5 vigilance trample is not that bad, is it? < 1391307801 666486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "worth" as in price < 1391307810 597317 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, but according to comments in Gatherer, there are other cards that outshine it < 1391307883 153936 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently all Planeswalkers are mythic rares, which makes me sad < 1391307999 507996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. those other cards are too good < 1391308089 251686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Kalonian Hydra is also too good) < 1391308337 815913 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's blatantly too good... 3.5 stars why? < 1391309083 277905 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand that basic lands are colorless, but... is there any good flavor reason for that? < 1391309367 639029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a card whose effect is "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously" < 1391309376 818172 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've seen Drive, as i remember/away < 1391309393 782441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1391309415 410928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that Bike pressing ↑ before typing /away < 1391309460 303970 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what that was < 1391309550 476114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: your job is to find a card that provides some sort of negative effect to your opponent for putting jams on their creatres < 1391309566 424369 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i mean, i was recommending movies, but not here < 1391309574 4775 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though Drive is a good movie. just, public announcement < 1391309642 21334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should use Drive. i have all this storage space now < 1391309668 783188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is Anastasia (1956 film) a good movie < 1391309690 983931 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't seen it, don't know < 1391309710 501410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1391309723 914497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the answer is yes < 1391310707 498288 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing I think people dislike Kindle for over Nooks etc. is the DRM policies < 1391310774 318565 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1391310775 202479 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"However if you use the Send to Kindle function to put your mobi books in the Amazon Cloud then DL to the iPad from the Cloud they will easily sync highlights, bookmarks, notes, etc. with the same mobi book on other Kindles and Kindle apps. " < 1391311115 874915 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already bought it < 1391311179 615647 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send to Kindle sounds really fun, and I remember regretting that the Nook didn't have it when I got the Nook < 1391311551 842219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1391313744 149407 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Nook is worse DRMed in a way that's more important to me: Apparently it's tricky to retrieve notes and hilights < 1391313757 8486 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not impossible (hopefully) < 1391314356 979365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's an exploit for that Linux x32 bug we were discussing: < 1391314357 394644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/DH3Lbg54 < 1391314382 442291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which bug < 1391314470 797197 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features and smirk a few times" -_- < 1391314476 71934 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :man i miss my international keyboard < 1391314526 438259 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :id instead of whoami, huh. is that the usual nowadays < 1391314534 328371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: -_- < 1391314561 536295 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1391314565 43161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu deserves a lot of credit for some of the security stuff they've done < 1391314572 939844 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the quote < 1391314576 375438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1391314594 362085 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's just kind of bullyingly mean, which th ere is a better adjective for i'm sure but i can't think of it < 1391315162 500324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :h4xorz < 1391315168 471769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: u hax? < 1391315168 651677 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: and call it done < 1391316032 743671 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1391316640 961264 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.170.82 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1391316753 440580 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How common is it to checkmate with a castling move? < 1391316889 77560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: p. uncommon hth < 1391317118 336934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I don't expect it to be common, but how common is it anyways? And how common just to give check with a castling move even if it isn't checkmate? < 1391317141 959743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how common is it for the other player to resign immediately after one player castles? < 1391317567 360857 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1391317589 836698 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391317730 751733 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1391318737 776031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wizards of the Coast didn't like the Elo system and replaced it with the "Planeswalker Points" system, which is a terrible system. < 1391318761 70230 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in my opinion) < 1391318839 709785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why all the castling questions < 1391318856 971904 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i thought you were being objective. < 1391318926 424758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chester came to school and said, / "Durn, I growed another head." / Teacher said, "It's time you knowed / The word is 'grew' instead of 'growed'" < 1391318970 353235 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I once read about castling to put opponent in check, and even once did so myself, but haven't seen a castling move where it makes opponent checkmated, but am curious to know how common such things are. I did see once a game involving misinterpretations of older rules where castling with a promoted pawn is a checkmating move. < 1391319067 690131 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :castle only as a sorcery < 1391319096 509981 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :promoting a pawn to rook and then castling with it? < 1391319236 506619 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bew to shachaf < 1391319349 138467 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391319381 750994 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391319417 523000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes < 1391319439 206120 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you could only castle if the rook and king had never moved before? < 1391319591 533775 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: That is correct. < 1391319653 764283 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1391320001 977205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :♖ < 1391320029 882292 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how could you do it with a promoted pawn < 1391320041 287609 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't < 1391320087 628526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An exception is seen in the British Museum's collection of the medieval Lewis chess pieces in which the rooks appear as stern warders or wild-eyed Berzerker warriors." < 1391320113 610587 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't actually allowed, but due to older rules some people thought it would be allowed; king goes to King's 3 and rook goes to King's 2, and notation O-O-O-O-O-O. < 1391320268 277729 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391321264 100529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird that the maglev speed record is only 6.2 km/hr more than the conventional rail speed record < 1391321324 103104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ꙮ-ꙮ-ꙮ-ꙮ-ꙮ-ꙮ-ꙮ < 1391321381 791910 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there haven't been many maglev trains < 1391321396 990189 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what if I want to castle as an interrupt? < 1391321404 87980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: indeed < 1391321427 619057 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think interrupts are more flavorful... I mean, how odd is it that if I cast A, and opponent casts B in response, B takes less time than A? < 1391321570 73509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and conventional rail technology has more than 200 years of refinement and mass worldwide deployment < 1391321736 630146 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it without the interrupts though < 1391321758 69289 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care so much about "flavorful" < 1391321796 727835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: a wizard did it < 1391321890 891860 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In a single player campaign) now have a 9/8 with trample < 1391321896 852842 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is green generally this ridiculous? < 1391322630 642781 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :9/8 is a nice time signature. < 1391322646 683530 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙮꙮh < 1391325036 711074 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391325360 767018 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"From now on I call From the Vault: 20 FtV: Jace. That's the reason most people are buying it. Its a foil Jace that comes with an extra 19 cards. :)" < 1391325625 380885 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes, green lurves crazy-big creatures like that. < 1391325634 493891 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's expecially doable in a more casual game. < 1391325991 706436 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391327406 732824 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391330373 488384 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1391332260 208040 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1391333597 169633 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(Yes, eval() is used here, leaving you at mortal risk of XSS-attacking yourself.)" < 1391333689 159945 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the disappointing part of From the Vault: 20 is how it has 5 cards that generate mana. why couldn't they put more diversity in? < 1391334190 42652 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Who even rates this higher than 0.5? This card makes Rod of Ruin look good." < 1391334197 121705 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Discussion.aspx?multiverseid=198395 < 1391334471 658970 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, you have to spend 3 mana to make 1 dammage? < 1391334479 171262 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brilliant < 1391334727 135691 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: worse... 2 equip < 1391334732 314683 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-62-215.xdsl.xnet.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1391334741 652299 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So 5 total, although possibly spread over two turns < 1391334772 834794 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, magic the gathering? < 1391334778 135198 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes < 1391334786 706257 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1391334813 486760 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are really strange cards < 1391334817 977100 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1391334850 731493 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember one that gives you an advantage as long as you do not speak with your normal voice < 1391335041 252238 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, what < 1391335131 192277 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1391336110 518067 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably Unglued or Unhinged < 1391336115 597047 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or really old < 1391336129 433543 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unglued+Unhinged are not tournament legal, they're not considered real cards < 1391336669 316113 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I always wondered what would happen if I changed the VGA buffer without first switching to graphic mode < 1391336672 935099 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I just found out < 1391336679 682169 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO DREW ALL OVER MY MS DOS < 1391336810 151093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1391336871 686385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have bet (some, but not very much) money on nothing interesting in particular happening, for writing to 0xa0000..affff while in a text mode. (Or was this in DOSBox or something?) < 1391336884 310296 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dosbox < 1391336931 331963 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can be bothered, you could try it out in qemu or bochs or something real. < 1391336939 929717 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot < 1391336943 592146 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is sunday! < 1391336978 288877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. Well, I wouldn't take it as conclusive proof as to what would happen on a real computer. You know, in case your life depended on it or anything. < 1391337102 188029 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1391337120 279696 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the case will ever pop up < 1391337654 399541 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391337654 689324 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391337655 108724 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391337812 669890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/delegated-strings so many TLDs < 1391337846 834499 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :too distracted by "Valuetainment" to read the rest < 1391337876 921158 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if .cheap addresses are cheap. < 1391337902 980925 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :.monash? why did a university buy a gtld < 1391337971 583375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess for BRAND PURPOSES. < 1391338017 549768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you have to use all those tuition fees for something. < 1391338032 851515 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.econ/IIjUodGrHXw/uWHIxu2-LqMJ < 1391338035 657940 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you pay employees too well, they'll get all uppity. < 1391338062 259195 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1391338078 731035 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we should start the #esoteric foundation llc just to get .jam made < 1391338142 722216 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man, .wang < 1391338178 568137 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1391338191 82457 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<= Netsplit between *.net and *.split. Users quit: nisstyre, Frooxius, realzies < 1391338240 402606 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The text on screen gets stored in memory too < 1391338248 120875 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you hit the right addresses, you will override that < 1391338258 717185 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's two bytes per character < 1391338270 764664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Yes, but it's not in a0000..affff. < 1391338276 44250 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: It's in b8000..bffff. < 1391338290 126421 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And b0000..b7fff is the monochrome video buffer place.) < 1391338322 627677 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if it's always in b8k or if it depends on which textmode you're in < 1391338346 144559 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: For the record, Bond University has applied for .bond and La Trobe University has applied for .latrobe, in addition to .monash. Must be some kind of an Australian thing. < 1391338356 981706 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :.fizzie < 1391338359 558706 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sunstroke, i bet < 1391338371 168060 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :james.bond < 1391338847 238576 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The nice thing about the graphic mode is that no matter if you fuck up < 1391338851 60583 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will look amazing < 1391338884 992546 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's how it works < 1391338892 56293 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19940612/DOS.png < 1391338896 209313 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOESN'T IT? < 1391338900 812320 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's full of staaaars < 1391338916 863157 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just looking at it I am filled with wonderment < 1391338933 151023 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh < 1391339225 565611 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure some little atari dude could have an epic adventure in there! < 1391339238 149314 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's gonna find an amazing treasure that looks like a square < 1391339245 680703 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And battle enemies that also look like squares < 1391339640 281127 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it's full of stars! < 1391339875 206129 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just have to use your < 1391339879 753046 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaSd2d5rwPE < 1391340126 368861 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah < 1391340131 499929 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finally made my gay square < 1391340146 331350 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the code looks like shit < 1391340407 582129 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-62-215.xdsl.xnet.co.nz PART :#esoteric < 1391341701 559732 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should make a tunnel now < 1391341802 436059 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tunnel? < 1391342003 154215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ꙮ="multiocular! " in cycle ꙮ < 1391342004 213549 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "multiocular! multiocular! multiocular! multiocular! multiocular! multiocula... < 1391342022 64956 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whaaat < 1391342035 310500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :prꙮblem? < 1391342079 679365 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cꙮnspiracy < 1391342092 999203 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they're watching you) < 1391342106 596526 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That character does not actually display < 1391342115 400812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in my putty either < 1391342121 684068 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor here < 1391342128 257143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i copied it from the logs < 1391342132 486454 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can cut&paste it to firefox, for example. < 1391342178 341930 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even if you can't see it, you *know* that THEY are watching. < 1391342203 484967 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiocular_O < 1391342205 707185 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1391342233 707242 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? multiocular o < 1391342234 440836 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiocular o? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1391342247 908570 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ꙮ < 1391342248 551508 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a second, are there supposed to be 13 or 16 eyes? < 1391342248 731256 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙮ? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1391342405 423721 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :um it looks fine for me < 1391342445 335596 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's lots of eyes, not sure if the exact number of eyes is significant < 1391342499 405676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION learns that there are also binocular o, double monocular o, and monocular o < 1391342604 74407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall from previous discussion that the unicode sample has a different number of eyes from the original manuscript ones. < 1391342677 412736 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the manuscript linked from wikipedia uses 16, but 13 is scary enough to me :) < 1391342685 407215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/a66e/index.htm has 7 while wikipedia has 10 < 1391342694 796753 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :my font has 8 < 1391342706 915228 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehm, 7 < 1391342714 16453 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have 10 at wikipedia and 7 at fileformat < 1391342733 993803 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be no fun writing < 1391342749 361891 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i have 7 on irc < 1391342760 357894 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :My font has 7 too < 1391342761 265600 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 and 10 Ouch :) < 1391342771 929861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: pretty sure wikipedia's is a picture. < 1391342798 555022 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the important thing is that it's more than two < 1391342800 117448 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :2*6+1 ... yeah, that was embarassingly foolish. < 1391342800 393865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well although it contains a character too. < 1391342871 855861 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if Unicode specifies what a codepoint should render as < 1391343129 943260 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/UA640.pdf has 7 too < 1391343180 247584 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 9 on IRC < 1391343190 75936 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But font size also depends on DPI < 1391343296 253369 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391343335 972428 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah__: http://i.imgur.com/Nlj97.png Do this, in x86 16-bit ASM < 1391343362 507144 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I guess not, based on the proposal for adding those characters: https://web.archive.org/web/20131224125913/http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n3194.pdf < 1391343430 519506 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull : Not quite there yet! < 1391343439 736633 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I have a friend who's an assembly expert < 1391343442 706330 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(their font uses 7; the manuscript scan uses 10, it's the same that wikipedia links to) < 1391343444 783112 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm getting some tips from him < 1391343481 501352 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah__: See if your friend can do it :D < 1391343485 462665 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=3397 < this site has some great examples, by the way < 1391343490 646121 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull : Dunno < 1391343505 459196 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he did a port of Bubble Bobble for the Amstrad CPC < 1391343508 842652 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pouet is nice < 1391343581 683965 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how the -ocular o's are essentially pictographic < 1391343614 31406 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"replace 'o' with this character if the word is derived from the stem meaning 'eye'" < 1391343727 24963 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. can I set dosbox options on the command line without writing a .conf file ... < 1391344123 64339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1qs62r/i_just_got_banned_from_my_favorite_restaurant_for/ meanwhile in /r/bitcoin < 1391344316 539302 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1391344355 108652 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ø: o is forbidden < 1391344359 896218 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"submitted 2 months ago" "meanwhile" (great story, anyhow) < 1391344441 422099 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: it's something different, but give http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/magnet.tgz a try :) < 1391344531 980148 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: That's rather cool < 1391344914 299191 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. It's a bit more than 10 years old. I really should've dated those things. < 1391345237 642073 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I see that I've commented the fpu code. (The comments show the contents of the FPU stack. Tracking that can be quite confusing.) < 1391346172 788665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391347297 348674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:21 .. 15:41 < 1391347310 120427 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got to stop using the IRC input line for short-term notes. < 1391347741 888095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I tend to just send them to the channel < 1391347749 562373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way if I need them in the future, I can find them in the log < 1391347867 516780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, but I won't need that one after 15:41 EET, so it's reasonably likely to still be in the input backscroll. < 1391347951 551567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote 15:21 .. 15:41 I've got to stop using the IRC input line for short-term notes. fizzie: I tend to just send them to the channel that way if I need them in the future, I can find them in the log < 1391347953 422223 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1165) 15:21 .. 15:41 I've got to stop using the IRC input line for short-term notes. fizzie: I tend to just send them to the channel that way if I need them in the future, I can find them in the log < 1391347983 215310 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391348123 214636 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391348235 834204 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391348646 164134 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391349014 677779 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1391349542 353326 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha! `addquote must be for long term notes. < 1391349909 789196 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quoe < 1391349910 701060 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quoe: not found < 1391349911 847290 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1391349912 397693 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) I used computational linguistics to kill her. < 1391350234 444559 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 42 < 1391350235 189218 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :42) If I ever made a game where you jabbed bears ... I'd call it jabbear. < 1391350520 152445 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 0x2a < 1391350521 221893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1391350567 280893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1391350567 972172 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :628) the point of a university is research and training new researchers. the point of the world is to enable this. < 1391351043 956909 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like 628 < 1391351078 586604 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1391351268 49858 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1391351268 771171 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :456) Pythagoras was running away and he reached a field of beans, but he didn't want to step on them so he let those guys chasing him to kill him instead. < 1391351367 378107 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh bother < 1391351377 4183 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a clear screen function and now some shapes are disappearing! < 1391351428 155736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION spots FreeFull making an account at the Complexity Zoo < 1391351474 986337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone asked wtf was up if you tried to click random page in that < 1391351492 451243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :answer: that's what a wiki turns out like if no one bothers to delete spam _ever_. < 1391351550 598865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except on the publically facing pages, presumably. < 1391351581 808040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :behold https://complexityzoo.uwaterloo.ca/index.php?title=Special:AllPages&from=1000.000000Ree_Online_Facebook_Of_Sex_In_Australia_New_Zealand&to=Events_In_Cape_Town_Reviews_Tips < 1391351604 41412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ^ hth < 1391351663 498894 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I made an account because I wanted to get rid of the spam, but I'm not sure hwo < 1391351666 729492 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how* < 1391351677 210384 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just press the "random article" button and get spam < 1391351702 959121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: well given they're all spam-titled articles, you really need admin powers to delete properly. < 1391351736 962083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could blank them, but that doesn't really help with random article < 1391351804 223001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all the spam is too old to show up in recent changes. < 1391351841 198140 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :chessbase makes me so angry sometimes. http://en.chessbase.com/post/a-new-challenging-chess-variant - who is this guy and why does chessbase give him a platform for his so-called "research"? < 1391351842 872814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact the reason i noticed you was because you're one of the few things happening in the last month. < 1391352045 626313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: given the way the wiki is structured, a script to delete all orphan pages might work... < 1391352174 363761 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1391352194 108878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: oh i hit an actual non-spam page on that wiki. i think i may have invented a variant of your brainfuck derivative/self-made game < 1391352212 880575 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm < 1391352224 335278 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you get admin rights and just delete the spam pages as you hit them? < 1391352226 986881 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you doing? visiting "random pages"? < 1391352231 236042 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yeah < 1391352248 328016 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Esolang, you hit random page, score 1 negative point for each BF derivative, stop when you reach a language you made yourself < 1391352249 340698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: i'm not even registered there, so i doubt they'd trust me. < 1391352262 807421 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've found that the wiki works fine if you use the dedicated index pages) < 1391352284 912763 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the complexity zoo one) < 1391352307 396594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very low-volume wiki otherwise, so presumably there's no admin with actual time for spam maintenance. < 1391352310 788441 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: how close do I have to get to -\infty before I'm allowed to stop? < 1391352334 535381 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: if you have trouble stopping, you go create some more non-BF-deriv esolangs < 1391352414 575907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait deleting orphans won't work, the real page i hit was one. < 1391352429 469947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://complexityzoo.uwaterloo.ca/STCON < 1391352540 982594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw the fact STCON is in LOGSPACE is the essence of a famous complexity theorem. < 1391352654 753292 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1391352658 744860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems most of the spam was added last spring < 1391352918 704994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1391352919 511840 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't one remove the spam pages based on some heuristic? Most of them (from a small random sample, anyway) seem to contain several long paragraphs and no wiki markup < 1391353223 838641 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another possibility is to manually mark all non-spam pages < 1391353225 473426 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then delete the rest < 1391353295 503473 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... https://complexityzoo.uwaterloo.ca/Strategies_To_Use_SEO ... < 1391353383 203913 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391354121 964005 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1391354385 511353 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391354412 722361 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391354494 727745 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391354513 95487 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391355153 168400 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, "score 1 negative point for each BF derivative, stop when you reach a language you made yourself" < 1391355156 171938 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1391355163 648557 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you get positive score for anything? < 1391356263 748472 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391356321 185313 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've landed on an equal amount of brainfuck derivatives and brainfuck implementations thus far < 1391356577 848578 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does brainfuck count as a brainfuck derivative for the purposes of this game < 1391356669 766685 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what if you made a bf derivate? do you stop? do you score -1? both? < 1391356698 589965 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't it be best to make the whole wiki full of bf derivates to get better scores? < 1391356764 105091 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are more likely to stop while others are more likely to get -1 < 1391356939 285687 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure being a BF derivative should have precedence < 1391357002 966154 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My score: -7 or -8 depending on whether brainfuck counts < 1391357213 219173 :a_ergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-78-41.pptp.stw-bonn.de QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1391357315 367610 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391357354 596104 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...the wiki has some pretty weird 'languages' < 1391357366 900224 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as http://esolangs.org/wiki/Yo < 1391357702 958119 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do find German (esolang) pretty stupid < 1391359900 282068 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: brainfuck does not count. it has seniority. < 1391359959 528718 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the game should be "-1 for every language that has not a single creative idea in it" just to be sure < 1391359971 545471 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1391359985 368367 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1391359991 395312 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because some brinfuck "derivatives" are awesome, while some non-bf-derivs are the worst < 1391360077 875270 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, German < 1391360374 414174 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :machine code derivative? yeah that's pretty low < 1391360394 23391 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the joke isn't even funny! < 1391360403 773832 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bier is spelled wrong < 1391360547 367184 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. 'cat' is a compiler for the 'Cat' language, in the spirit of 'German'. < 1391360737 256912 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :some ninja twins levels are annoying ... too many hidden items < 1391361683 928334 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :augur < 1391364705 932365 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@178-147-83-249.mobile.cosmote.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391364872 742544 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@178-147-83-249.mobile.cosmote.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1391364978 967767 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391364981 862942 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@178-147-83-249.mobile.cosmote.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391364999 99493 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@178-147-83-249.mobile.cosmote.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1391365181 616645 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1391365510 775135 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1391365526 716998 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391365789 903915 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 NICK :tertu < 1391366558 700943 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1391366575 427018 :a_ergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-78-41.pptp.stw-bonn.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1391366985 359842 :a_ergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-78-41.pptp.stw-bonn.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391367257 702186 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a PART :#esoteric < 1391367268 659377 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a JOIN :#esoteric < 1391367268 960173 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a QUIT :Excess Flood < 1391367327 550461 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a JOIN :#esoteric < 1391367447 206320 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a PART :#esoteric < 1391369300 392647 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391369703 37239 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does the HackEgo BFJoust hill score? < 1391369875 198323 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's explained on gregor's bfjoust hill page < 1391369912 68194 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the short answer is "it's kind of stupid" < 1391369917 310319 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1391369934 703874 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the long answer is "i implemented a better scoring system, and Gregor never incorporated it" < 1391369948 920150 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does yours work? < 1391370078 427850 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just before i got up i imagined that "coop" was "copoop" < 1391370166 126471 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :copooperation < 1391370289 658478 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :copoop= 10% of everything? < 1391370415 177760 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391370434 371677 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391370477 666876 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391370509 938123 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391370618 462926 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.coingen.io/ finally < 1391370702 396009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i invest in Bikeoin yet < 1391370716 531380 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could create bikeoin < 1391370762 217236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the ultimate invest"ment < 1391370775 30542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://coingen.io/status.html < 1391370781 523632 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391370797 256082 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391370821 370898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i invest in fraudcoin? or maybe hackernewscoin? < 1391370831 517269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll invest in _this_site_is_a_scam_dont_send_your_bitcoins_to_coingen_ < 1391370848 764486 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :fraudcoin sounds legit < 1391370851 270968 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm betting on unusablecoin < 1391370855 713891 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :take it from the resident expert < 1391370896 754324 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tuplipcoin"? < 1391370908 919754 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a misspelling of "tulip"? < 1391370912 390336 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :referring to tulip mania < 1391370917 595422 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured that might be it < 1391370924 653282 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :still seems silly to typo your coin name! < 1391370937 478130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or i could branch out to "fourchan" or "adolfhitler" < 1391370962 306007 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :obamacoin brings change < 1391370993 534507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i have too much hair < 1391371001 61258 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are remedies to that < 1391371003 713954 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard < 1391371033 177218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time i removed my hair i got a sunburn < 1391371036 454518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta be careful < 1391371363 310747 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should remove your hair and move to Finland. < 1391371403 510391 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why finland < 1391371410 554495 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There’s no sun here. < 1391371424 591537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure it was sunny last time i was there < 1391371433 873949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ~30° in helsinki < 1391371513 321457 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1391372026 784722 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391372827 522858 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1391373588 925394 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can attest to there being no sun visible in the sky here at this moment. < 1391373622 647109 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, there won't be any sun here from 7:30 PM on the 20th of February! < 1391373850 424113 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391374154 854845 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391374937 199929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1391375308 30290 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1391375344 430158 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1391375981 730245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp posted about his cuckoo project http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/1wtn6d/cuckoo_cycle_a_memoryhard_proofofwork_system/ < 1391376371 877486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah i hate that pdfs on github won't open in the browser < 1391376384 432304 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must pick the raw version < 1391376392 814711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _did_ pick the raw version. < 1391376395 293767 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or i must figure out how to publish them on github pages < 1391376422 227852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it insists on opening it outside, which means the awful metro interface. < 1391376426 120321 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i never unsdersood why some pdfs are downloaded and other are shown in browser < 1391376449 446057 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, i'm rewriting the paper as we speak < 1391376462 199409 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :expect a new version in 5 mins < 1391376629 811481 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh, i never unsdersood why some pdfs are downloaded and other are shown in browser < 1391376639 349270 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing the 'raw' feature sends the file as application/octet-stream < 1391376642 261356 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefox sometimes opens text files as a download < 1391376696 502481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that would do it i guess :( < 1391376791 296986 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is also Content-disposition: attachment < 1391376832 123629 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I've written a function that computes the fibonacci sequence using only identifiers defined in the lens library < 1391376837 254317 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, oerjan, new version pushed < 1391376842 803782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: :D < 1391376847 975085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: including operators? < 1391376860 818739 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :view curried (view simple) (sumOf ignored (&)) (productOf ignored (&)) ^.. over mapped (iterated ((over mapped (view flipped (mapped %~) (sumOf both ^. curried)) (over mapped (mapped %~) (view simple ^. curried))) ^. flipped & over mapped (perform (acts&mapped%~acts)) & review curried)) _1 < 1391376872 617139 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, including operators < 1391376895 546186 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb++ < 1391376975 126195 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting rid of (.) was easy. Getting rid of (,) was less so < 1391377244 53155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> view curried (view simple) (sumOf ignored (&)) (productOf ignored < 1391377244 270097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (&)) ^.. over mapped (iterated ((over mapped (view flipped < 1391377244 270249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (mapped %~) (sumOf both ^. curried)) (over mapped (mapped %~) < 1391377244 270338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (view simple ^. curried))) ^. flipped & over mapped (perform < 1391377244 270428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (acts&mapped%~acts)) & review curried)) _1 < 1391377245 84264 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:66: < 1391377245 264501 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) < 1391377255 41552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1391377291 607561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1391377308 224807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> view curried (view simple) (sumOf ignored (&)) (productOf ignored (&)) ^.. over mapped (iterated ((over mapped (view flipped (mapped %~) (sumOf both ^. curried)) (over mapped (mapped %~) (view simple ^. curried))) ^. flipped & over mapped (perform (acts&mapped%~acts)) & review curried)) _1 < 1391377309 898472 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946,... < 1391377385 777698 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1391377525 516232 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1391377600 646846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION increase paste_detect_time to 10msecs < 1391377602 726609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1391377889 822321 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So lenticular < 1391377950 334676 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does paste_detect_time mean? < 1391377980 561231 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You can cause it to display the text by adding "view-source:" at the beginning of the URL. < 1391378016 470655 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually pretty simple < 1391378034 594569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how long irssi waits after a line before deciding it's not part of a larger paste < 1391378047 606412 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially "iterate (\(a,b) -> (b, a+b)) (0,1)" < 1391378124 67427 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only terminal emulators and shell applications would support bracketed-paste... < 1391378233 759047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t swapped < 1391378234 498555 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Functor f, Profunctor p1, Swapped p) => p1 (p b a) (f (p d c)) -> p1 (p a b) (f (p c d)) < 1391378238 543422 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey, weechat supports bracketed-paste if one enables an option < 1391378266 952926 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, I forgot about swapped < 1391378281 458905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it sounded like something you might have used < 1391378315 350416 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What does it do with such a decision? < 1391378337 91465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: What does bracketed-paste mean? < 1391378358 113070 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a terminal mode where pastes are prefixed and suffixed by escape sequences < 1391378399 481529 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would be useful if it was actually a thing, since it'd mean IRC clients and text editors wouldn't have to guess based on timing and heuristics if something was pasted or typed < 1391378424 579578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if it detects it's a paste, it will (1) warn you if it's many lines. (2) join wrapping lines if it looks like it has been copied from the irssi window. < 1391378446 503409 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.xfree86.org/current/ctlseqs.html#Bracketed%20Paste%20Mode < 1391378455 177005 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What escape sequences? Is it the START OF TEXT and END OF TEXT control characters? < 1391378458 745244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, (2) failed for me above because it didn't detect it as a paste, which is why i increased it. < 1391378468 508681 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's CSI-prefixed sequences < 1391378496 271746 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. either ESC [ 200 ~ or \x9B 200 ~ depending on whether 7-bit or 8-bit CSI is set < 1391378519 332029 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1391378537 248997 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey folks < 1391378546 186258 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I try to declare some variable in x86 < 1391378547 323510 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like < 1391378548 133604 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :square2 dw 0x0064, 0x0064, 0x0016 < 1391378555 144177 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes my program fuck up < 1391378558 117139 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is this < 1391378676 853095 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: What assembler and what program? < 1391378735 976424 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FASM < 1391378739 642202 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the program is... < 1391378752 306239 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know how to program in FASM. < 1391378763 100742 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/XSMwb0aA < 1391378779 410248 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As soon as I put that declaration, bam < 1391378786 689173 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It assembles fine, but it does not work < 1391378808 598388 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you crossing a segment boundary? < 1391378821 38338 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I'm aware < 1391378832 475194 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works without the declaration, and does not with it < 1391378846 172571 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the assembler would put it in another segment < 1391378849 893561 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus I don't even call it < 1391378869 267283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Move it to the end of the program. < 1391378892 934202 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, it works < 1391378894 175612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise it try to execute them as instructions < 1391378899 881230 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks! < 1391378945 598831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program has to start at 0x0100 which is also beginning of the file, and the part before that is a PSP (at least, in DOS this is how it works). < 1391378973 888747 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man I don't want a playstation in my program < 1391379012 861301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: does anybody use 8-bit CSI? < 1391379054 434512 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think several terminal emulators support it < 1391379059 767626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think Linux accepts it? < 1391379073 53242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but do any common programs send such sequences, I mean < 1391379080 905350 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of any. < 1391379091 957836 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't that just depend on your terminfo entry? < 1391379096 708316 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For many programs, anyway.) < 1391379127 275819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in a UTF-8 terminal do you actually send \xC2 \x9B ? < 1391379168 489461 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That I don't know; I don't use the UTF-8 terminal mode. < 1391379176 433362 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a shell application has to send an escape sequence to tell the terminal to change to 8-bit CSI, or something < 1391379178 88839 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1391379194 414816 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :One benefit of using the 8-bit CSI would be to disambiguate it from < 1391379197 850190 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :in e.g. vim < 1391379208 317310 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :relying on timing sucks. < 1391379209 711456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ECMA-48 codes are defined in terms of codepoints and not bytes for a Unicode terminal < 1391379211 825489 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the terminal emulator built-in to Linux automatically allows 8-bit CSI though < 1391379318 433017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: you may have assembler directives like .text and .data that let you switch between code and data sections, and the assembler/linker will arrange for each of code and data to be contiguous in memory < 1391379334 936746 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that way you can declare your variables near where they will be used, rather than at the end of the file < 1391379404 80681 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, http://www.vt100.net/docs/vt510-rm/S8C1T was the escape sequence I meant < 1391379417 323789 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also important because memory for storing code isn't writeable on some platforms (like microcontrollers, or any OS enforcing that as a security measure) < 1391379498 709756 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: That's for terminal-to-host talk, though. I don't think you need to do that if it's the host sending 8-bit C1 control characters. < 1391379512 691698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: (Just if you want the terminal to use them too.) < 1391379584 646081 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's probably true < 1391379603 823406 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bracketed-paste case mentioned earlier would be terminal-to-host though < 1391379636 445132 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. (I wasn't reading at that point.) < 1391379668 115562 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are interest rates calculated in case of leap years? < 1391379670 989167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a thing that was using the 8-bit CSI that I came across the other year, but I've entirely forgotten what it was about. < 1391380382 882739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i very vaguely thought all months are treated as 30 days for the purpose < 1391380404 944783 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe there's a large number of different, incompatible conventions. < 1391380412 631719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. < 1391380441 578406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 30/360 thing certainly is a thing that happens in some financial contexts, though. < 1391380453 30419 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t31/1655773_636614729738716_1020538943_o.jpg < 1391380474 352641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the way it should be done is using a tropical year rather than a calendar year, and using signs instead of months. You would then adjust these results into actual business days based on the timezone. < 1391380495 828070 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :astrological signs? < 1391380510 828876 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Such a thing is still out if 30/360 but not based on the calendar) < 1391380518 126859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes. One sign = 30 degrees < 1391380528 933066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: very secure password < 1391380554 750212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It has lowercase letters, uppercase letters, digits AND a special character. < 1391380565 675135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You couldn't ask for more. < 1391380857 757545 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamn < 1391380866 943059 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My worst enemy in assembly is bits of code I left around < 1391380872 484131 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And forgot to delete < 1391380896 365900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zombie code < 1391380957 242351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghost code < 1391381031 133287 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GH-GH-GH-GH-GHOST??? < 1391381613 304264 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1391381827 994546 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there some programs to trace the program to figure out which codes won't ever be used? < 1391382043 270032 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't ever? isn't that a statically determinable property < 1391382070 194448 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on the programming language it might be, I think. < 1391382080 414194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And depending on the program; sometimes it might not be) < 1391382130 182253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: like most things, it sometimes requires solving the halting problem. < 1391382146 181685 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is what I meant, for the second thing. < 1391382159 418482 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah i say < 1391382177 352540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compilers certainly do dead code elimination; I'm sure there are some standalone analysis tools too. Though the "bits of code left around" problem probably involves code that actually does get executed, just shouldn't. < 1391382219 776449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if the program is already compiled, it is different, anyways. < 1391382597 790970 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1391383047 496884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like orthogonal instruction sets? < 1391383554 2968 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think it is good idea to have instead of an immediate addressing mode, to use PC post-increment; and instead of a jump instruction just have a move to PC instruction. < 1391383623 880270 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does any CPU instruction set actually have PHI instructions, or is that only used in compilers? < 1391384293 725111 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1391384392 610379 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1391384436 856119 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have an idea about how to implement a hardware PHI instruction: Make branch instructions to write the address of what would be next instruction as if it didn't branch to one register, and the actual next instruction address (regardless if it branch or not) to another register, and then the PHI instruction is a conditional move where the condition is both of these two mentioned registers have the same value. < 1391384534 671144 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1391384698 876859 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391384735 243948 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Quit: realzies < 1391384868 280621 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391384876 576206 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1391385290 699792 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391385580 180594 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1391386433 173327 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391386639 890812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this .gif makes a good point http://www.mu6.com/Pascal_Triangle/Extended_Pascal_400.gif < 1391386750 411625 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of good point? < 1391386864 445553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to say < 1391386900 429237 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I notice it says "Rights under GNU" (I can't actually read it, but it looks like that) at the bottom. What exactly does that mean? < 1391386960 505835 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391387026 911145 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391387127 705163 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391387135 138266 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391387135 318132 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391387135 497857 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391387135 744755 :polytone_!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1391387137 898795 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1391387138 100595 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1391387214 491186 :CADD_!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session JOIN :#esoteric < 1391387238 835844 :fizzie`!fis@a91-156-43-200.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1391387250 506082 :fizzie`!fis@a91-156-43-200.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT 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:copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391389453 896166 :conehead__!uid16140@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391389454 294492 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391389456 130992 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391389487 430539 :elliott!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391389488 659677 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi NICK :45PABAEX0 < 1391389494 886898 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1391389639 8380 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391389639 468728 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391389639 648575 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391389640 524783 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391389642 840827 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391389643 54592 :45PABAEX0!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391389720 9757 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391389721 200374 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1391389721 200576 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391389721 200640 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1391389721 399140 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391389721 399212 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1391389721 578726 :conehead__!uid16140@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391389733 699081 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391389841 837103 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1391389843 553604 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391389878 123016 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391389958 894429 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391389967 719425 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, is this working now? < 1391390144 894139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they dos'ing freenode again < 1391390221 456100 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1391390288 171320 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391390288 717642 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391390291 36760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391390291 216786 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391390291 216981 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391390291 217111 :ski_!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1391390354 194502 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391390354 437413 :elliott!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391390430 167847 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1391390487 720091 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391390487 914414 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1391390487 914589 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1391390487 914683 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391390487 914751 :namaskar!~namaskar@81.155.189.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391390487 914816 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391390487 914879 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1391390489 109527 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391390600 778562 :tromp_!~tromp@216.223.243.245 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391390612 194002 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :Guest66423 < 1391390747 147049 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391390841 410345 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1391390857 853693 :Guest66423!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1391390876 82958 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391390916 884364 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391390933 157217 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391390949 912585 :realzies!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391390974 999880 :realzies!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Changing host < 1391390975 220265 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1391390987 64030 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1391391008 227785 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1391391038 151440 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se JOIN 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:kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :Guest31241 < 1391393148 116542 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391393148 817379 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391393163 169559 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391393231 874207 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1391393312 611051 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391393312 792326 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391393331 882628 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1391393471 41747 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1391393484 970190 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1391393682 476045 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1391393698 65162 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1391393742 47589 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal 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:SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391394518 116570 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391394518 116710 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391394868 249495 :jix!~jix@jixco.de NICK :17SAAE8PG < 1391394869 87932 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391394870 760231 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1391394870 976724 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391394870 976834 :yiyus!~124271242@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1391394870 976900 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1391394870 976964 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1391394870 977027 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391394882 717818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there something wrong with this Freenode? < 1391394887 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:Quit: It is tiem! < 1391397012 231803 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1391397015 236173 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391397127 248775 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391397130 470739 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@217.196.214.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391397311 311066 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391397340 608756 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391397506 809108 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@217.196.214.101 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391397708 591502 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391397836 397841 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes. lots of failures. cloaks are offline. < 1391397949 499129 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391397961 332509 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1391398013 550290 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391398380 708042 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1391398452 524527 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391398452 872511 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391399006 328848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391399111 622918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chat.freenode.net has address 127.0.0.1 < 1391399142 626473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION got here by connecting directly to wolfe.freenode.net < 1391399147 541353 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391399148 619756 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391399148 889948 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391399155 375569 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Changing host < 1391399155 555520 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391399205 729837 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, apparently part of their anti-DDOS measures < 1391399351 926716 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391399352 348262 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391399866 723139 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391399891 783502 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391399893 297765 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391399893 297895 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391399975 938201 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391400447 750387 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391400510 94371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is it working a bit better now, it is possible to read each other's message by now OK? < 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:#esoteric < 1391401268 122214 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391401268 345974 :14WAB00L3!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391401351 304159 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391401417 418638 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 NICK :myname < 1391401587 776759 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you are SO zzoic < 1391401612 866643 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391401697 936407 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 NICK :21WACB7ED < 1391401808 273022 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391401808 273088 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1391401808 273153 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391401808 273340 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391401841 711751 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391401889 176198 :Zuu_!zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391401913 677309 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1391401923 694447 :Zuu_!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Changing host < 1391401923 874604 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391401938 811730 :21WACB7ED!~myname@84.200.43.57 NICK :myname < 1391401949 265879 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391401950 361278 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391401976 184284 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391402219 144574 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1391402275 727362 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391402277 377434 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391402288 149120 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391402435 408981 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391402510 872670 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net NICK 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:callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391416900 177129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1391416947 741539 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391416947 921348 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1391417233 838276 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Changing host < 1391417234 53996 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391417251 661012 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391417384 182292 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391417588 95863 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391417589 298216 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391417662 914894 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391417663 522578 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391417664 527382 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391417664 708040 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391417664 708170 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391417664 708235 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391417664 708298 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391417689 214711 :salparot__!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1391417782 106825 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1391417782 384624 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1391417782 384736 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391417782 384801 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391417782 384863 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391417783 798648 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1391417786 203341 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1391417923 698069 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391417924 108649 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391418041 628563 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1391418211 490228 :olsner_!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Excess Flood < 1391418213 105861 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391418214 699166 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1391418222 889200 :augur__!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391418272 488155 :augur___!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391418283 424122 :augur___!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391418283 793013 :augur__!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391418383 174501 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391418383 394268 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1391418383 394407 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391418384 766949 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391418558 245373 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391418575 811434 :augur__!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391418616 774103 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se NICK :23LAA07PF < 1391418617 195112 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1391418819 621083 :ski_!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1391418865 105252 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391418959 677958 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1391418985 518944 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1391419041 858655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1391419083 130432 :45PABCQ7C!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391419131 594568 :45PABCQ7C!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391419172 293911 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1391419288 889325 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391419289 290904 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391419289 523188 :23LAA07PF!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391419322 695669 :Gracenotes_!~person@192.241.203.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391419350 96511 :JZTech101!~JZTech101@botters/jztech101 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391419601 597564 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391419601 777575 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1391420216 515955 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391420305 502301 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session JOIN :#esoteric < 1391420734 751547 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@93.114.40.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391421466 462390 :JZTech101!~JZTech101@botters/jztech101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391421565 103439 :JZTech101!~JZTech101@botters/jztech101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 267 seconds < 1391421657 533668 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1391422514 634884 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391422709 553392 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1391422961 317193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391422961 769259 :conehead__!uid16140@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xjhhfblnvodqsngu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391422961 948797 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391422962 128470 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391422963 424840 :samebchase!~samuel@codesurfers.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391422964 5517 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qdeynycvtxgqcfjj QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391422965 500669 :iamcal_!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tuahlepifxfodttc QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391422965 788801 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fccrqonqpevrfkzc QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391422966 403547 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391422966 779218 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391423317 781723 :hogeyui__!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1391423397 781597 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1391423436 509361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391423445 313782 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391423715 208220 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391423949 799205 :Gracenotes_!~person@192.241.203.42 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391424340 463491 :itsy!~digital_w@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391424765 812391 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391424828 712544 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1391425107 855661 :itsy!~digital_w@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently I can't leave the house because there's an armed siege :-( < 1391425439 671037 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1391425453 669020 :clog_!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1391425849 719517 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1391425937 326122 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391425955 441022 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1391425963 372714 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391425970 257776 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1391426321 146378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1391426491 515776 :clog_!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 293 seconds < 1391426518 2223 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391426602 927241 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391427176 679747 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: what? < 1391427300 852874 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1391427324 817167 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391427340 275381 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391427352 160930 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391427368 512991 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1391427514 888729 :itsy!~digital_w@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: also, I think it might rain... < 1391427525 817090 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391427620 728000 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1391427652 434441 :itsy!~digital_w@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know the details. It's probably just a guy who won't answer the door to the police, so they send in the armed police to intimidate him. < 1391427667 508252 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1391427821 195677 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 259 seconds < 1391428136 593281 :samebchase!~samuel@71.19.145.59 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391428419 218440 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1391428915 211472 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391428915 803735 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391429089 337259 :samebchase!~samuel@71.19.145.59 QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1391429094 201221 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1391429396 935808 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391429637 816918 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391429638 113496 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391429638 435946 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391430141 147670 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1391430173 716502 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391430414 149240 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1391430443 529914 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1391430543 385170 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391430593 481846 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1391430593 661654 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1391430684 75166 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1391431340 27641 :variable!root@gateway/shell/trekweb.org/session JOIN :#esoteric < 1391431375 436183 :variable!root@gateway/shell/trekweb.org/session NICK :Guest40316 < 1391431385 219571 :Guest40316!root@gateway/shell/trekweb.org/session QUIT :Changing host < 1391431385 399397 :Guest40316!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1391431391 410990 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1391432382 590253 :Guest25039!zuu@77.215.149.86 NICK :Zuu < 1391432590 846200 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 NICK :Guest63185 < 1391432773 817969 :Guest63185!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Changing host < 1391432774 34014 :Guest63185!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391433240 114616 :conehead__!uid16140@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xjhhfblnvodqsngu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391433240 311793 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qdeynycvtxgqcfjj JOIN :#esoteric < 1391433240 311924 :iamcal_!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tuahlepifxfodttc JOIN :#esoteric < 1391433240 311993 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fccrqonqpevrfkzc JOIN :#esoteric < 1391433494 330289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391433928 116758 :realzies!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391433973 748738 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391434006 156830 :Guest63185!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :Zuu < 1391434103 137467 :realzies!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Changing host < 1391434103 317286 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1391434448 514764 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391434449 828050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391434476 826165 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good February morning! < 1391434525 272968 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good Febreze afternoon. < 1391434566 321897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ENVA < 1391434567 470090 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 031320Z VRB04KT CAVOK 08/M03 Q1010 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 21014KT < 1391434569 574784 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :were there any wisdom-additions during the weekend? < 1391434571 792829 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1391434572 411985 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 031300Z 02006KT 15SM OVC240 M12/M16 A3029 RMK CI8 SLP261 < 1391434596 217620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :much warm, still dry < 1391434599 443912 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a warm again here. < 1391434603 130872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1391434640 515161 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No met-ar for me. < 1391434709 302006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if we're to believe the repository, there were no changes for 6 days, until just a few hours ago (not wisdom related). < 1391434721 407994 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391434721 587610 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391434740 780288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however the browser was broken, so whether it's actually up-to-date i dunno... < 1391434749 593359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1391434756 821445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _distinctly_ recall addquoting. < 1391434770 38840 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I broke metasepia and boily. :/ < 1391434779 514820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1391434790 895409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run allquotes | tail -1 < 1391434804 623359 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's also no HackEgo.) < 1391434808 30854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1391434842 460750 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And fungot's not here, either. (!) < 1391434843 812488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor`: ALL IS LOST < 1391434851 788309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bad day for bots. < 1391434854 986769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot: WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE < 1391434900 863413 :Sorella!~queen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391434967 307124 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1391434970 444425 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391434998 896687 :boily-temp!d0586e2e@gateway/web/freenode/session JOIN :#esoteric < 1391435009 183570 :boily-temp!d0586e2e@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION *grmbls* < 1391435019 207180 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1391435024 161668 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally connected. < 1391435028 867947 :boily-temp!d0586e2e@gateway/web/freenode/session QUIT :Client Quit < 1391435039 670248 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391435046 510337 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently freenode has SSL troubles this morning. < 1391435084 518547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has all kinds of troubles. < 1391435097 269142 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1391435098 917135 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 031320Z 19007KT 0800 R04R/P1500N R15/1300N R22L/P1500N R04L/P1500D FZFG VV002 M00/M01 Q1021 NOSIG < 1391435102 229239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's better. < 1391435113 821921 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it looks different that what it usually does. < 1391435160 677064 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the Mythic Negative Cow Club! < 1391435167 854302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think Gregor`'s moving of hackego is not going well, and the repository browser is missing at least one quote i _know_ i added yesterday. < 1391435196 566967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hackego is not present. < 1391435232 54168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: does temperature have the buddha nature? < 1391435242 184977 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/RYHN they must've changed something. < 1391435288 898353 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Added them runways, at least. < 1391435318 53174 :Sorella!~queen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1391435318 232701 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1391435318 845907 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed his screaming absence from the channel. < 1391435320 370811 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mü. < 1391435361 314768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no mü but i must scream < 1391435550 606452 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391435855 894417 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was spelled mū, maybe I'm wrong though < 1391435904 558202 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: -mist- [As Globa As I Can Notice] Sorry folk! We're currently having the DDOS. I guess it will stop at some point. We do not have any information for you about it at this time. Have a cup of tea, or watch TV for a while until it blows over. < 1391435950 339646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it NEVER STOPS < 1391436056 324257 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the guess is wrong < 1391436073 136141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures < 1391436089 130410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Mandarin versions are either “wú” or “mó”, Cantonese “mou4” and Japanese “mu”. I felt the #Esöteric version would have none other than a nice diæ̈resis. < 1391436163 258316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sëe < 1391436188 463701 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can diaeresis a single vowel < 1391436195 676043 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, not meaningfully < 1391436234 356875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are technically correct, the best kind of correct < 1391436283 811877 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: t. tdh. < 1391436296 472930 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391436298 582826 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391436363 793560 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1391436412 951627 :augur__!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :augur < 1391436496 588630 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session QUIT :Changing host < 1391436496 767975 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sstqbofoprivulya JOIN :#esoteric < 1391436516 430861 :ski_!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se NICK :ski < 1391436773 10220 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1391436801 636485 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION test, test, test, test, retest, test again... < 1391436802 127872 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. I have serious multi-minute lag. let's reconnect... < 1391436802 307295 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1391436849 950994 :itsy!~digital_w@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's up with freenode today? < 1391436895 353573 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: freenode is feeling ill < 1391436935 252408 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391436945 951517 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard on #haskell that there was/is? a DDOS attack on Freenode. < 1391436997 434640 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there still is. < 1391437081 539896 :lonbrik!~edouard@195.221.138.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391437081 897436 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there always is. < 1391437086 862450 :lonbrik!~edouard@195.221.138.137 QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1391437136 388818 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid idea: if freenode has DoS problems, can it deploy its own botnet to DDoS the DoSsers? < 1391437151 370809 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1391437160 370112 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how would that help? < 1391437174 439016 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole point of DDoS is that there are many attackers and few targets. < 1391437187 602961 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1391437203 741645 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION maplerases the stupid idea. < 1391437250 198141 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Earlier today chat.freenode.net completely refused my connection attempts < 1391437257 313792 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah, feeling quite ill I bleieve < 1391437278 701239 :nortti_!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1391437278 888363 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretend I know how to sple < 1391437310 10697 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391437320 804079 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: any comment on the bot uprising that we have witnessed today? < 1391437321 46277 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: where do things go faster if you shake it up a little bit fnord, like fnord < 1391437323 81839 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391437323 615366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: chat.freenode.net was redirected to localhost, i saw in the logs < 1391437332 302533 :Guest40316!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Excess Flood < 1391437335 629801 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that explains it < 1391437353 926652 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. dns cache poisoning? nasty. < 1391437359 981196 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well, shaking up freenode is bad, mkay? < 1391437360 160775 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: oh, cool. i like fnord. < 1391437369 448677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i thought it was a countermeasure, actually < 1391437378 963168 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1391437384 333138 :nortti_!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1391437390 26572 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :Read error: Permission denied < 1391437400 523777 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be, but then it's an unpleasant one with lots of collateral damage. < 1391437454 718143 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1391437579 701119 :nortti_!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1391437719 515658 :nortti_!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :Client Quit < 1391437738 670750 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 QUIT :Ping timeout: 261 seconds < 1391437781 654513 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sings a bardic song to entertain Freenode and give it buffs... “I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay ♪” < 1391437820 566309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bluff Bluff Bluff the Stupid DOSsers..." < 1391437864 813525 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com NICK :`^_^v < 1391438006 698158 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They called it a countermeasure. < 1391438055 569319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We're currently experiencing what appears to be a DOS attack against our servers. Some servers are offline, and local IPs appear in the rotation, meaning that some connections will fail." says the topic of #freenode. < 1391438109 994534 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391438521 45545 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get why someone would want to DOS freenode < 1391438533 492987 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or poison DNS caches to point them at localhost rather than somewhere more interesting < 1391438622 970257 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're on #esoteric and you don't understand why people do pointless stuff? < 1391438638 497461 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1391438697 721321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: it's because they HATE OUR FREEDOM hth < 1391438718 802652 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I don't consider the (ontopic) work #esoteric does pointless < 1391438730 616434 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider it potentially pointful just with a really low success chance < 1391438745 887754 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, well, it earned me enough money to live on for a year, so it was worthwhile for me at least < 1391438747 823142 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: everything we do ain't pointless. it's all part of a Grand Scheme. (I think. maybe. perhaps. well, in my fantasies, at least, so that's a start.) < 1391438819 699492 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391438834 297409 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of pointless things, what happened with trying to find the midpoint of #esoteric? < 1391438835 201156 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :More importantly, esoteric programming languages don't actively hurt anybody. < 1391438854 615512 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: even brainfuck derivatives? < 1391438864 983057 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ignorance is bliss, in that case. < 1391438866 180011 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: somewhere inside the world, I think < 1391439078 48871 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: It's not like esoteric language creators go around taking hostages and forcing people to use the languages. At least I'd like to believe that. < 1391439446 662678 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 249 seconds < 1391439458 658983 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Ping timeout: 298 seconds < 1391439756 352784 :Sorella!~queen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391439941 879793 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391440018 213318 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@cl-394.sto-01.se.sixxs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391440179 898219 :Sorella!~queen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1391440180 77136 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1391440575 589784 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@cl-394.sto-01.se.sixxs.net QUIT :Changing host < 1391440575 806164 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1391440836 219247 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 247 seconds < 1391440855 598778 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391441895 315686 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1391442034 148430 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391442040 175346 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391442049 112793 :tromp!~tromp@216.223.243.245 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391442053 349185 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391442080 7757 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391442092 352118 :Sorella!~queen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391442107 607845 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391442412 521600 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391442528 11015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1391442591 758293 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL: When you buy stuff for $2 or so from ebay, what you get might not always be of high quality. < 1391442926 777612 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't a live bobcat, was it? < 1391442969 564388 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho, a live bobcat for 2$ is nice. lots of meat! < 1391442989 849959 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hopefully the bobcat's. I have an emotional attachment to mine.) < 1391443056 503518 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1391443171 842338 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION attaches electrodes int-e < 1391443189 997986 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391443190 648587 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391443191 311092 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391443224 63456 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go write a Spiral program. Every minute you wait, I turn up the voltage. < 1391443308 642169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a 52-to-58 mm "step-up" ring, for attaching filters to a camera lens. < 1391443330 482745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it's got a ding in it, so it's no longer circular and the threads are all wonky, so you can't actually, you know, attach it to a lens. < 1391443368 174309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curiously, the envelope doesn't have any scratches, so perhaps it was pre-dinged before postage. < 1391443399 970713 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I like the word "ding".) < 1391443633 479188 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm can you build a spike pit under the seller's living room? < 1391443838 627866 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't sound quite feasible. < 1391443876 426245 :realzies!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391443876 609218 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391443876 609343 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1391443898 405339 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps not, but it does sound like a lot of fun < 1391444061 312191 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sstqbofoprivulya QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391444132 795096 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@93.114.40.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391444229 334649 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140203-ding.jpg <- see < 1391444528 372639 :realzies!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net NICK :Guest73899 < 1391444811 456511 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391444833 381002 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iricgftaevfavhgr JOIN :#esoteric < 1391445392 412465 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391445393 404140 :tromp!~tromp@216.223.243.245 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391446373 785684 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1391446374 162651 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1391446375 96332 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia. < 1391446850 953290 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391446851 133253 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391446852 238870 :Guest73899!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net NICK :realzies < 1391446857 635792 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391446858 397584 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391446875 839721 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1391446883 338801 :realzies!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net NICK :Guest68421 < 1391446891 568475 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391446933 605585 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1391446933 785439 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1391447021 816165 :Guest68421!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Changing host < 1391447021 996040 :Guest68421!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1391447189 629690 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391447608 790290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 6502 instruction set has NOP immediate where STA immediate might logically fit. < 1391447649 185550 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOP immediate? < 1391447668 347558 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So essentially jump-over-the-next-byte? < 1391447693 786923 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1391447739 90877 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand the IA-32 reference :( "02 /r ADD r8,r/m8" ← I don't understand what /r there signifies < 1391447758 835118 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Yes, that is what NOP immediate does. < 1391447789 126983 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems weird to me for a NOP opcode to take an operand < 1391447831 269222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: x86 has nops with operands. < 1391447863 797690 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: It's an easy way to make different-length nops if you have all kinds of addressing modes and such that can end up with operands of different sizes. < 1391447867 206914 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only some of the NOP opcodes take operands; some don't. < 1391447904 719589 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are all the same speed though. < 1391447923 957128 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1391447932 974229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The basic 0x90 NOP doesn't; the 0F 1F /0 takes a r/m16 or r/m32 operand, depending on operand size. < 1391447964 506501 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1391448022 742689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make a nop of any size from 1 to 9 bytes (and possibly above, but that's where the table in the manual stops) with those two, by selecting the proper operands and prefixes. < 1391448299 906523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :6502 also has NOP with different addressing modes, all of which are loads I think, and take the same time as other loads of those addressing modes but don't affect any flags or registers. It is also possible to use longer instructions that act similar to shorter ones and are just as fast too, for example ALR #$FF should be like LSR A but longer in case you need to change the instruction alignment or something like that. < 1391448498 271225 :Guest68421!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat NICK :realzies < 1391448710 656242 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: modern x86 also has lots of different nops nowadays, with different addressing modes, < 1391448736 224096 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and conflicting statements in the intel vs amd optimization guides on which nops are best to use for padding (seriously) < 1391448768 933283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you tell GCC which ones to use? < 1391448770 941360 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, they can be conflicting, that only means one is better to use on intel cpus and the other are better on amd cpus, but it's still funny < 1391448814 944838 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: possibly. there's an interface at least for telling what cpu to optimize for, whether it will affect these nops I can't tell < 1391448839 456737 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-17-206.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1391448842 296074 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: -mtune=something < 1391448890 503361 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I sort-of want to make an esolang entirely based around NOPs with side effects < 1391448899 776624 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :these don't have side effects < 1391448926 25216 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's unclear what the distinction is between a NOP with a side effect, and a command < 1391448928 304198 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are plenty of strange instructions that do have side effects as well of course < 1391448946 882072 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, how would you classify x86's "LEA" instruction? < 1391448957 244788 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :classify in what way? < 1391448962 854348 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically just "use the address calculation code to do arithmetic" < 1391448967 574102 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: not sure < 1391448973 796366 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels a bit like a NOP in some ways < 1391448981 775013 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The NOPs in 6502 do load the data they are pointing to, but then ignore it. < 1391448984 148474 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that it calculates an address, then does nothing with the memory it points to < 1391448999 252459 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it changes a register! < 1391449005 16787 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can imagine that LEA in x86 loaded the address it pointed to once, but it certainly doesn't do so nowadays < 1391449020 321218 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some prefetch instructions that you can think of as noops with side effects to optimize something later if you want such things < 1391449151 708069 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then every cpu has a few such instructions that are sort of nops in that you can insert them anywhere without breaking the program, but not necessarily _remove_ them from a program without breaking it; or the reverse, ones you can remove from any program without breaking it but you can't just add them without breaking something. < 1391449159 288495 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are funny < 1391449223 604078 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, every modern cpu at least < 1391449363 456419 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391449610 659290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: reading from memory can have side effects, so I would guess not < 1391449644 496570 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I liked my mentally confused model of x86 history in which the A20 line reset the processor < 1391449656 752198 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: I very much doubt it ever did that; memory mapped IO is quite old. Memory areas not being present were the norm, and such memory access is abysmally slow. < 1391449674 70156 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lea, accessing memory) < 1391449675 164847 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which addresses on PC have side effects for reading? < 1391449683 458572 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391449739 840390 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1391449758 47168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know of any on PC but it is possible to build an x86 system with such addresses, anyway < 1391449793 62278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also accesses may fail due to segment limits or paging < 1391449812 124012 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: exactly, and x86 even explicitly supports that because it lets you configure memory areas to like five crazy modes telling how much caching and pre-reading etc the cpu can do, < 1391449828 936983 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect that even reading CGA memory caused grainy screens. < 1391449829 640419 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1391449835 988724 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the normal mode being used for ram which the cpu can assume works like ram, and crazier modes used for memory-mapped io < 1391450138 736313 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1391450186 248148 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Ok, the 486 introduced on-die caches, so that's when things became really interesting. (Some 386 boards had CPU-external caches and a couple of 386 clones had on-die ones. I didn't know that.) < 1391450416 380838 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391450428 985529 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? didn't all 386s have some on-die caches already? < 1391450490 836050 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-17-206.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1391450491 15654 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391450556 28781 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. The 386 had a 16 bytes prefetch queue for instructions though, which visibly violated memory ordering (writing to the next instruction would not affect execution). < 1391450606 17399 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it had off-die caches? did those run on the same clock cycle as the cpu? < 1391450613 564815 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least did some of them run that way? < 1391450632 993800 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. I never had one of those. < 1391450660 348119 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I had a 386 once but without additional caches.) < 1391450661 665523 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for just prefetching instructions, well sure, wasn't that like started with the 6502? < 1391450748 912105 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if someone jumps to a memory-mapped address, but there's an interrupt on the same cycle, then the interrupt handler rewrites the return address on the stack? < 1391450804 814308 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were only two innovations on the 486: 1) including FPU and 2) adding a cache, both on the same die. Oh, and selling broken chips; AFAIR, early 486SX were 486DX with broken (and disabled) FPU; and some early 487 were actually fully functional 486. < 1391450825 588664 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do I exist now? < 1391450825 770155 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: neither " studly" nor " fnord fnord < 1391450844 472238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: good enough for me. < 1391450844 725770 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: old-style let ( which you're considering calling with). < 1391450861 386599 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: indeed, I consider calling the Classical Let. < 1391450861 645981 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that is more fnord then scheme, and math. i guess it's implementable, and that is? :p < 1391450894 440429 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: the Old Let of Yore has been implemented ages ago, although with a little bit less fnord. < 1391450894 636004 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: argument checking or a check type? fnord < 1391450910 835225 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: argument. type systems weren't as developped as they are now. < 1391450960 530699 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391450981 705670 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no way! the 486 introduced the cmpxchg instruction, which counts as an innovation to me. < 1391451005 232660 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: oh! right, fair enough. < 1391451036 284792 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't they introduce a few more instructions too? those probably aren't really innovations like cmpxchg, just optimization stuff, but I wonder now < 1391451049 349081 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: is that atomic? < 1391451056 965141 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: yes < 1391451065 22297 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and how do you determine whether it is or not, on a single-core processor? interrupt handlers?0 < 1391451069 876554 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: it's for atomic test and set < 1391451075 328902 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: yes, inteerrupt handlers < 1391451093 843207 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know why a cmpxchg instruction would normally want to be atomic < 1391451095 267788 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though cmpxchg is something that doesn't work very well without caching infrastructure. the CPU has to announce that it owns a small part of memory (a cache line) exclusively, and the rest of the system has to respect that.) < 1391451103 185359 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: it matters even for single cpu, because an interrupte can cause a task switch to another process which could observe an inconsistent state < 1391451145 567022 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lock cycles did the same before, but they were expensive. (xchg has always been atomic.) < 1391451148 737176 :variable!root@gateway/shell/trekweb.org/x-tihfbqydsehfhdzy JOIN :#esoteric < 1391451150 276711 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: though wait < 1391451165 560889 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: you're right, if it's a single cpu and no extra hardware, then there isn't much point asking if it's atomoic < 1391451171 184630 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the instruction itself can't be interrupted < 1391451190 876846 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: still, it's an instruction you need because the multiple instruction emulatsions you can do on a 386 CAN be interrupted, < 1391451204 293614 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why you need such an instruction even on a single-cpu system with no extra hardware < 1391451325 155834 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1391451351 570187 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you can write a correct lock even with no atomic primitives but assign-constant, IIRC < 1391451378 588816 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, apparently some (not all) 486 cpus have the cpuid instruction. you could say that's sort of an innovation. < 1391451381 297084 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly it can't be done without at least some guarantees of the value memory will take in the middle of at least one instruction < 1391451400 124854 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, isn't CPUID pointless unless all CPUs you'd want to use it on have it? < 1391451420 508718 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: not it's not. x86 does have a way to detect whether cpuid is supported, < 1391451438 916243 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for x >= 3) < 1391451442 626241 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :screwing with the interrupt that Linux translates as SIGILL? that's what I'd guess < 1391451449 259268 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 2? hmm. < 1391451449 438951 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1391451507 53380 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: as for implementing lock, 386 (and earlier x86) does have a way to implement a lock, because they do hvae enough instructions to implement an aomtic _boolean_, sort of, but not enough to implement a lockless atomic full-word integer < 1391451593 871434 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought assignments to individual bytes were atomic < 1391451595 360787 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: lockless means you can alawys update the value of the atomic number without having to schedule other threads that are holding the lock so they can release it, so eg. you can even update a lockless atomic from a signal handler, but you can't wait on a lcok from a signal handler because the same thread outside the signal handler might be holding that mutex < 1391451597 61475 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not, though? < 1391451609 231774 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391451618 352712 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: assignments are atomic if you do them right, but that's not enough < 1391451628 845623 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: with just atomic assignment you can't implement a lock < 1391451634 416869 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you don't know what value you have overwritten < 1391451645 453122 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need somethign that can atomically read AND write the same bit < 1391451648 768212 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :There used to be tons of assembly snippets for detecting CPU versions. CPUID totally spoiled that kind of fun. < 1391451650 770690 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you can, but you need all the processes involved cooperating, and with unique IDs < 1391451652 412567 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which x86 does have < 1391451657 210436 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need one variable for each of them and one shared one, IIRC < 1391451661 734337 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the algorithm's pretty complex < 1391451678 905273 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: I see < 1391451679 850090 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it involves doing things in an order which always allows you to detect if the value got overwritten and try again < 1391451706 505636 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: don't worry, stuff is still complex with cpuid because of old cpus and historical cruft and because of intel/amd doing stuff differently < 1391451730 348130 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… if you assume that halfway through a write, no memory locations other than the one you were writing to have a changed value < 1391451733 585117 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: so often you have to do like five tests to find out if a feature is supported if you want to go by the book and make sure it works on all cpus, past and future < 1391451741 96801 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably possible to implement a lock with no atomic instructions at all < 1391451753 207544 :samebchase!~samuel@codesurfers.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391451765 36369 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: or do what icc does and just grep for "GenuineIntel" in the ID string < 1391451774 225212 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get bad performance on AMD as a bonus < 1391451799 790365 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1391451831 805338 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I'm surprised nobody's written a program that automatically patches icc-generated binaries to fix the CPU ID chek < 1391451833 270692 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*check < 1391451871 192922 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: as in, first test for a cpu that is at least 186 with the push sp instruction (or something like that), then if it's at least 286 with dunno what instruction, then if it's at least 386 with the pushf/popf instruction, and then test if it has cpuid with the pushf/popf instruction but a different bit (I could be mixing this up), then check four different cpuid values, each of which is valid only if the previous one has some bit set correctly, < 1391451884 501063 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only if all that succeeds can you be sure you can use a feature. < 1391451908 964508 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :086 didn't have a "push sp" instruction? < 1391451932 540904 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: it does, but one of them pushes hte value of sp before and one pushes the value after the push < 1391451936 39088 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sp is the stack pointer < 1391451937 394203 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: does push sp push the new or the old SP? that's the difference you'll check < 1391451941 441193 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1391451950 523501 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is surprisingly similar to detecting the INTERCAL variant you're running on < 1391451953 184987 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it might not be 86 vs 186, it could be something else < 1391451961 202658 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure which one is which < 1391451964 890106 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there might be some shortcuts too < 1391451969 572279 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the real question is whether you can subsequently correctly restore the stack pointer with pop sp < 1391451978 480167 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: there's no pop sp < 1391451990 447372 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity :-( < 1391452023 843781 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pop pop pop pop pop ♪ < 1391452076 387096 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://f.osdev.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=27307 < 1391452085 89065 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, apparently 486 also introduces a bswap instruction whcih lets you swap endianness of 32 bit integers with a single instruction < 1391452122 950275 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the x86 series was always full of crazily specific instructions that hardly anyone uses < 1391452137 837548 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? that's _not_ a crazily specific instrunction < 1391452140 69426 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :people do use that < 1391452147 945057 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah < 1391452158 221249 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are crazily specific instructions for historical compatibility < 1391452164 569146 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them are thrown out in x86_64 of course < 1391452166 541658 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's a useful operation < 1391452172 110506 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can do it with a few shifts < 1391452174 541333 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :salc is fun < 1391452181 598905 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ORs < 1391452184 552439 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or lahf / sahf < 1391452207 775505 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :salc is fun because it's almost the same as sbb al,al < 1391452219 985385 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but doesn't affect flags) < 1391452234 534368 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oh and it's 1 byte shorter, 1 instead of 2) < 1391452237 420621 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"set AL cler"? < 1391452238 937901 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*clear < 1391452245 819458 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :set al to carry < 1391452248 919094 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1391452272 676456 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those instructions are useful for avoiding jumps < 1391452280 251336 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you just want to do arithmetic on the carry < 1391452284 862160 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no look, lahf/sahf are z80 compatibility instructions, < 1391452291 748398 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, wouldn't sbb al,al set it to 0/-1? < 1391452294 412586 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :salc is way crazier < 1391452294 598854 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: still crazy < 1391452305 898305 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: so does salc < 1391452312 611394 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the decimal instructions and the parity flag are also way crazier < 1391452318 932620 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh right < 1391452326 596866 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6502 doesn't have non-carry versions of add/sub < 1391452333 335042 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to set or clear the carry manually if you want to do that < 1391452344 616513 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the 6502 is pretty close to RISC, really < 1391452350 860514 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the undocumented aam 13 / aad 13 is also fun (especially since some clones only implemented the documented base 10 versions) < 1391452360 344795 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what? what's aam 13? < 1391452379 745349 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as aam 10, but in base 13. (the base can be any unsigned byte) < 1391452413 66930 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ... ah' = al / 13, al' = al % 13. < 1391452447 769241 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the crazy part of salc is that it's undocumented, and that 386 already has a documente two-byte equivalent (setc al) iirc < 1391452458 626047 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's basically a divmod by constant? < 1391452469 842939 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: yes. < 1391452490 709733 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where by undocumented I mean that neither intel nor amd documentes it < 1391452491 412430 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: didn't they document it eventually? I forgot. < 1391452498 227675 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that instruction actually does seem genuinely useful, but it should probably work on larger registers than bytes < 1391452507 136458 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned it from the TASM instruction set reference ;) < 1391452515 737488 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no < 1391452570 802441 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :setc al will be 3 bytes. < 1391452613 146291 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the craziest instruction imo is arpl. the crazy part is that it takes up one of the precious 256 primary opcode bytes because it was added in 286 and at that point only privilaged instructions were prefixed < 1391452629 183215 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and* it will set al to 0 or 1. It's not the same at all ;) < 1391452629 749654 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :386 was the first cpu to add general purpose instructions with a prefix byte so they don't take up instruction space < 1391452634 471187 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does arpl do? < 1391452641 797574 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ah right, 3 bytes < 1391452650 823533 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: adjust request privilege level ... uhm ... I forgot :) < 1391452656 286825 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1391452665 727944 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: dunno, it does some crazy very simple arithmetic thingy on a number that you rarely need < 1391452668 639081 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when were rings besides 0 added to x86? < 1391452684 105911 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like "take current pl and some passed in a register; set pl to the maximum of those."? < 1391452692 369089 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: 80286 < 1391452699 899250 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps 186, I never dealt with that. < 1391452709 825049 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: in 286 < 1391452711 29938 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hadn't even heard of the 186 before today < 1391452718 423346 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's logical that it exists, given the numbering scheme < 1391452719 877021 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: 186 only adds a few instructions < 1391452724 851279 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did they stop using x86 numbering? < 1391452730 650137 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there's at least an 80686 < 1391452732 502761 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pentium < 1391452751 220820 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :people call it 586, but I think that's not official. < 1391452775 669538 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: is the 686 also non-official? < 1391452782 812068 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked it when the components just had numbes < 1391452784 405593 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*numbers < 1391452790 947440 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess there'd be number clashes eventually < 1391452808 241708 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: yeah, components having short numbers worked well when creating a new chip was really expensive < 1391452870 364135 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Oh. Some clones carried on the tradition. That may explain the 686. < 1391452876 879814 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays it's only like a million dollars < 1391452884 205615 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus like 10 cents per chip, if it's not too complex < 1391452907 513624 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: what? no way < 1391452916 365637 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: I mean, for a cpu it can be that expensive, < 1391452920 76592 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :low enough that it's easily affordabe if you need to < 1391452923 329701 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for some ordinary small chip it's way cheaper < 1391452930 396729 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's probably come down further < 1391452940 320992 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpus are complicated of course, more complicated than they were in the hayday < 1391452942 435262 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if you use old chip fabrication methods < 1391452964 803392 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, IIRC the main issue in constructing complex chips is that they use more silicon area < 1391452971 489926 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they can never get the silicon 100% pure < 1391452980 817117 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a single impurity has a decent chance of throwing off the circuit < 1391452995 237843 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the larger the area, the greater the chance that the chip will hit at least one problematic impurity and not work at all < 1391453009 44928 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas with a small chip, like 90% of them will work fine, it might only be like 10% for a large one < 1391453021 509420 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's impossible to test, yeah < 1391453033 197880 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's sort of also the problem with tft screens < 1391453049 513698 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead pixels take a while to show up after manufacture, often < 1391453166 332061 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and along different lines, also the reason that very large screens still tend to be plasma even nowadays) < 1391453196 422431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make simpler CPUs though < 1391453206 122220 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of modern ones tend to be too complicated < 1391453234 674939 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to be in order to achieve a high processing speed < 1391453249 908489 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the generalized version of moore's law stopped applying to clock speed ages ago < 1391453317 190465 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically due to cooling issues < 1391453339 524907 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the current approach to try to get a bit of extra clock speed is to reduce the voltage < 1391453344 695257 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that has its own issues < 1391453467 83193 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could still simplify it and have a faster speed, possibly by not having implicit caching and pipelining and out of order execution and all of that stuff automatically, and requiring them to be programmed in manually instead, and you could also use multi cores < 1391453634 111272 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391453728 459695 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, YouTube comments are working again for me < 1391453738 427411 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just observed someone complaining that TV shows tended to be hosted by celebrities < 1391453756 848982 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could get a new person nobody had heard of every week to avoid that, but it'd be awkward < 1391453844 848594 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or every day for a daily show) < 1391454352 157074 :variable!root@gateway/shell/trekweb.org/x-tihfbqydsehfhdzy QUIT :Changing host < 1391454352 402246 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1391454749 774198 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391454972 165921 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391455394 673283 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391456234 866955 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh obscure x86 instructions. This is one of my favourite x86 snippets: cmp al, 10; sbb al, 0x69; das. It converts a value less than 16 to the corresponding hex digit (0123456789ABCDEF), all in 5 bytes. < 1391456358 478506 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1391456402 796482 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391456420 114581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf NICK :cheese < 1391456424 661936 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391456439 396839 :cheese!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf NICK :shachaf < 1391456453 547728 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice! < 1391456491 967085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too bad that ascii/bcd instructions don't exist in long mode :/ < 1391456636 320848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with SSE you could load 0x46454443424139383736353433323130 into a register as a lookup table and maybe use it for this < 1391457186 247464 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391457247 225923 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391457475 630288 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1391457902 677213 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh wow! so AAM is encoded as two bytes, D4 0A, where the second byte is an immediate giving the base, < 1391457932 869170 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: and AMD actually documents the general form with any immediate < 1391457978 657233 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: intel documents it as well < 1391458013 785356 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I never really tried to understand those six decimal arithmetic byte instructions of x86 < 1391458254 335125 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, new unique in DCSS trunk! it's a cat!) < 1391458273 406538 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: which cat? < 1391458349 50136 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Natasha. < 1391458366 992512 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is he? does he come from some prior source? < 1391458379 68107 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, a fantasy novel or role playing sourcebook or something? < 1391458418 598219 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, she's just Boris' old familiar. she's a level 3 wizard, and'll be encountered pretty early in the game. < 1391458435 984521 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1391458683 333787 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and another unique in the works! Vashnia the elite naga sharpshooter! < 1391458693 833763 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(along with Asterion the bufferd minotaur.) < 1391458713 218209 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1391458794 542411 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/rd/d/ < 1391458865 488858 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: naga sharpshooter? how does that work? I thoguht nagas didn't have hands. < 1391458872 699724 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is he a sharpspitter? < 1391458968 320648 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs. “IANACD”. < 1391458982 509848 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and once again, she's a she. < 1391459000 304464 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :internet assigned numbers authority on compact disk < 1391459017 509905 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: close. “I Am Not A Crawl Developer”. < 1391459044 168082 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: well, a lot of the commits made in the past few weeks concern new monster sets and squads, à la Angband. < 1391459065 924145 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you're going to encounter more groups of thematic monsters with speciation and stuff. < 1391459090 887783 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(specialisation? specification? divergemilarity?) < 1391459842 552697 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Rust now supports cross-crate macros, as well as defining "procedural macros" (AST manipulation with arbitrary Rust code) without rebuilding the compiler < 1391459859 963816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds fancy < 1391460041 564233 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1391460138 488860 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pursuing to the constant deaddition/unremoval of a possible Forest branch, https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=user:hangedman:forest_dispersal&s[]=forest < 1391460171 915832 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want trees, fungot it! < 1391460221 152431 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :trees in a dungeon? < 1391460270 303069 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't question the trees! < 1391460288 246378 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trees are nice. they are green. they burn well :D < 1391460290 916216 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1391460703 366825 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1391460715 481509 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391460868 192414 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391460916 104289 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is brainfuck with [] as do-while Turing-complete? < 1391460999 430928 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure someone must've asked themselves that before, but I can't find anything and it's not obvious whether that's the case to me < 1391461307 572830 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, probably not < 1391461347 803795 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone have any recommendations for resources for learning forth < 1391461398 84809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by "as do-while" < 1391461430 302130 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`^_^v: http://www.forth.com/starting-forth/ maybe < 1391461469 331626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably "[ behaves like do { and ] behaves like } while (*p);" < 1391461507 738825 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, thanks < 1391461515 512230 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yoohoo? < 1391461529 574292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles the snobbing fungot < 1391461546 36403 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, what shachaf said < 1391461556 29779 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to the typical while (*p) { and } < 1391461570 486735 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially, treat [ as a no-op and ] as usual < 1391461592 194495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling that was discussed? < 1391461685 850215 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I can't find anything, though 'brainfuck "do-while"' might not be the best search query < 1391461802 998832 :itsy!~digital_w@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net PART :#esoteric < 1391461924 588046 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only find the skip-one variant. < 1391462058 386117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that a large fraction of all do-while loops in C use the condition "while (0);" < 1391462065 887631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly even a majority, depending on how you count < 1391462101 925285 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's very fast < 1391462163 279648 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the regular while loop, while (1) probably is quite frequent too. At least compared to any single alternative. < 1391462315 664961 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: good question. dunno < 1391462332 672832 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: in this bf variant, what does - do if the cell has value 0 ? < 1391462375 987686 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably wrap around < 1391462419 505260 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391462420 828934 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so [-] would still zero a cell, at least (although, taking 256 iterations if the cell was already 0) < 1391462467 630432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[-] would be fine even if it didn't wrap around, for any nonnegative value. < 1391462486 45306 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: my guess is that it's still Turing-complete, but that's just a guess < 1391462502 662445 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the same guess, but someone should work that out. < 1391462527 213188 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe give this language a name, write it up on the wiki :-) < 1391462561 211941 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure creating brainfuck derivatives is a grave sin < 1391462571 709241 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a simple interpreter (it doesn't have to be fast, just correct and consistent). < 1391462590 149306 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: but you've already committed that sin. does documenting it make it worse? < 1391462601 923678 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I suppose < 1391462621 623231 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391462724 60995 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though you could say I have created one as well by asking how - behaves on underflow < 1391462735 909125 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that means I imagined at least two possibilities of how it can behave < 1391462741 293489 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1391462743 196740 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel dirty < 1391462779 375450 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's that many-worlds quantum thing. Every decision you make creates new brainfuck derivatives. < 1391462962 484482 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I think I can prove it's turing-complete < 1391462969 637120 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me run the proof on you < 1391463060 352995 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :first, if you have three cells x y z you can copy x to y destroying z the same way as in bf: you zero y and z, then increase y and z as many times as you can decrease x, then zero y, then increase x and y as many times as you decrease z, right? < 1391463067 850901 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION munches on popcorn while he watches the hot'n'dirty proof action < 1391463083 782237 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now suppose you have a bf program, and I'll tell how to translate this to bf-dowhile < 1391463164 369890 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose the original program has brackets nested in at most D depth, then simulate each cell of the original tape by (9*D+9) consecutive cells in the new machine where 9 is a constant later to be determined < 1391463271 553966 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trick is, to simulate a bf loop, you save a copy of the value of the cell under the pointer when you enter the first iteration of that bf loop, copying it with you to every segment of the new tape you visit all throughout the loop. < 1391463348 405971 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you execute the bf loop like a do-while loop, but not in the same space as the outer code but in new cells in the same segments, < 1391463404 950309 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then in the end of the loop you check that saved value and copy the new values to a conditional place, which is either the outer simulated tape or some junk location, depending on whether the original loop ran at least once < 1391463413 620925 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are just two problems, < 1391463432 843392 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1391463438 889245 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one is how to initialize the inner copy of the tape, the second is how to copy it back < 1391463479 92780 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for this you somehow have to track the interval the head has moved during the loop, and also where the head ended up in the end of the loop < 1391463512 117753 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be possible with some extra cells in each segment, only I'll have to check if it's also possible in bf-dowhile < 1391463640 790206 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to save the leftmost position the head has moved to, you just reserve a cell in each segment that contains 0 everywhere the head has moved but 1 in the leftmost position, initialize this to 1 where you start, and set it to 0 before every simulated left move inside the loop and to 1 after it < 1391463644 200846 :Zuu_!zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391463684 649029 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can seek back there with a do-while loop < 1391463695 340716 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :similarly you can save and find the rightmost position and head position -- I think < 1391463701 715166 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1391463729 831191 :itsy!~digital_w@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391463732 91052 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391463732 891242 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391463734 196703 :salparot__!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391463734 519995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391463735 643048 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391463737 377007 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how do you do a conditional move in bf-dowhile? < 1391463754 749267 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391463771 102435 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, how to do a conditional copy of a value to a destination cell a fixed offset away depending on the value of a cell a fixed offset away < 1391463789 795323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1391463817 33096 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1391463845 701184 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I think you can do such a conditional move < 1391463856 276536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The easier way to TCness might be to just adapt some of the things that have been done to show regular brainfuck it. < 1391463862 124570 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to set up some cells correctly and it's sort of a waste of space, but I think it's possible < 1391463877 821915 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1391463884 152529 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think you can use that to initialize the copy of the tape as well, though it gets ugly < 1391463891 340683 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's turing-complete < 1391463913 404747 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be fair, you thought that from the start, and that was just lots of handwaving. < 1391463925 976446 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if D is fixed you can even give a very simple finite automaton translator < 1391463945 721364 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sure, but I wanted to convince myself most importantly < 1391464054 914158 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391464133 740516 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1391464222 808786 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would be a very wasteful emulation < 1391464231 476749 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need like a ton of cells < 1391464248 584921 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, with brainfuck that shouldn't be surprising < 1391464328 385968 :Zuu_!zuu@77.215.149.86 NICK :Zuu < 1391464335 586468 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Changing host < 1391464335 766081 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391464376 873115 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-16406.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1391464402 724965 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391464433 76799 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, this can't translate input and output statments, < 1391464448 293987 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: HYPERDIMENSIONAL VOLCANIC CHICKEN < 1391464455 380752 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391464457 184461 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's no surprise: in bf-dowhile you can't write a program that either writes empty output or non-empty output depending on the input < 1391464460 683631 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas in bf you can < 1391464470 304426 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's no problem, bf without io is still turing complete < 1391464602 874266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm, references are implicitly convertible to raw pointers in Rust < 1391464605 229632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems weird < 1391465299 544317 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could mostly fix the output by buffering, I don't know about the input < 1391465381 785716 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1391465400 199885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1391465503 94470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what are rust references? < 1391465506 572439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they like c++ references? < 1391465507 756376 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391465581 73710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also known as "borrowed pointers" < 1391465592 670324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "reference" is now the official term < 1391465652 347789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1391465654 550374 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ references have really weird semantics and aren't really a first class type < 1391465666 788026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1391465681 669439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust references are more like plain old pointers, except they're non-nullable and provide memory safety via region checking < 1391465703 790607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can use a borrowed pointer as a raw pointer? < 1391465725 128704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1391465872 56369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't that sort of defeat some purpose or other < 1391465892 582958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least the pointer still counts as borrowed within that block, i guess < 1391465916 641845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'm confused < 1391465925 273231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should learn rust < 1391465934 373813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't defeat memory safety because dereferencing a raw pointer can only happen in unsafe code < 1391466318 388016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably < 1391466320 658831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a cool language < 1391467009 860397 :loveirc-bot1!~loveirc-b@c-24-0-107-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391467072 508266 :loveirc-bot1!~loveirc-b@c-24-0-107-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391467152 490382 :impomatic!~chatzilla@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391467408 852202 :thirdeyeforsale!~thirdeyef@h39n5.eskilstunaenergi.ias.bredband.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391467624 180906 :thirdeyeforsale!~thirdeyef@h39n5.eskilstunaenergi.ias.bredband.telia.com PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1391467820 373909 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391467936 113356 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1391469182 766788 :Sorella!~queen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1391469291 902230 :Nathanator1416j!63bfcf9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.191.207.158 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391469306 170081 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1391469310 689754 :Nathanator1416j!63bfcf9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.191.207.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! First time! < 1391469348 358481 :Nathanator1416j!63bfcf9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.191.207.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do these things work? < 1391469425 629956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Nathanator1416j < 1391469434 321626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo... < 1391469447 203627 :Nathanator1416j!63bfcf9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.191.207.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello... < 1391469466 451626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nathanator1416j: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1391469513 94277 :Nathanator1416j!63bfcf9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.191.207.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Working on a new esolang, BF like, quick quines, but hard to ake complex ones < 1391469573 925419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391469596 310983 :Nathanator1416j!63bfcf9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.191.207.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodbye all, goin to the wiki < 1391469601 376733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay! ttyl < 1391469614 657079 :Nathanator1416j!63bfcf9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.191.207.158 PART :#esoteric < 1391469760 389301 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-16406.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Quit: Tritonio < 1391469767 183012 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1391469819 855896 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oerjan < 1391469924 694838 :loveirc-bot1!~loveirc-b@c-24-0-107-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391469940 226177 :loveirc-bot1!~loveirc-b@c-24-0-107-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391470030 625019 :loveirc-bot1!~loveirc-b@c-24-0-107-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391470127 589150 :loveirc-bot1!~loveirc-b@c-24-0-107-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391470214 118512 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1391470214 179499 NAMES :#esoteric < 1391470237 485726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!~loveirc-b@c-24-0-107-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net > 1391470237 507668 NAMES :#esoteric < 1391470283 218975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!~loveirc-b@c-24-0-107-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net > 1391470283 241206 NAMES :#esoteric < 1391470309 256870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1391470309 279679 NAMES :#esoteric < 1391470871 681993 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391471092 987456 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391471616 138419 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1391471692 692122 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1391472851 553868 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0 < 1391472913 746437 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1391474469 723410 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1391474576 174706 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391476378 223515 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rule 100.6b Players can use the _Magic_ Store & Event Locator to find tournaments in their area < 1391476504 67203 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is weird knowing people IRL who know me as "Taneb" < 1391476836 657578 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1391476841 279024 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes, it's the best rule < 1391476925 403342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: does that mean they are allowed to do so during a game? < 1391477814 256651 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391478238 370013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1391480329 318352 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would assume so. < 1391480565 376253 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391480640 128361 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391480669 11876 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391482988 230315 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1391485392 214467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/EvilHaskellTips < 1391485715 868290 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: <3 < 1391486034 41047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/mtabini/status/430159283683360768/photo/1 < 1391486101 419154 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is CGFloat an IEEE single float? < 1391486161 737050 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. It is a float with the property sizeof(CGFloat) == sizeof(void*). :( < 1391486227 686666 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... it can't actually even store a full US phone number on 32-bit systems. < 1391486274 817757 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"+1 555 867 5309" is greater than 2^24-1. :( < 1391486341 828752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1391486365 636673 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell, so's "+1 000 000 0000". < 1391486403 823333 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is not a legal number, but that's neither here nor there. < 1391486405 69945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs this +1 though < 1391486406 736916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is america < 1391486436 491363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even ITU agrees that we're number one < 1391486444 147109 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are places in the country where you actually have to dial "1 XXX XXX XXXX" though. < 1391486447 822145 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even for local numbers. < 1391486450 680853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1391488535 473005 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"+82 10 XXXX YYYY"? (that's a lot greater than 2^24-1) < 1391488585 182102 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think E.164 allows the maximum of 15 digits < 1391489777 239522 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391489811 736224 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391490085 736713 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1391490517 270296 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that the sort of trick people would try in the 1970s? < 1391490543 237780 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right alongside two digit years? < 1391490555 65017 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not sure why I'm blaming the 70s specifically) < 1391490770 780563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1391490842 16703 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i for one have no idea what you are talking about < 1391490878 642285 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y2k, storing two digits of the year in order to save memory < 1391491229 83733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :using a float for phone numbers is also space-inefficient, though < 1391491333 312404 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> logBase 2 (10**15) < 1391491334 372968 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 49.82892142331043 < 1391491473 581094 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I was assuming this was American, and also I'm only really familiar with the North American dialing plan. :) < 1391491537 391082 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1391492448 27842 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :+358 40 NNN NNNN is a typical Finnish mobile phone number. < 1391492578 919246 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Quit: Server updates < 1391492690 72956 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1391493186 628621 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+1 NNN NNN NNNN is a North American number. < 1391493227 999076 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(can't be more specific than that; that's the scheme, there's not a more nation-specific easy prefix, nor is there such a thing for cell numbers) < 1391493234 456471 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kindle is so annoying to hold compared to the Nook < 1391493241 114523 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to remind myself that the software is far better < 1391493261 764843 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have to remind yourself, is it really better? < 1391493299 686222 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm likely to get used to the lack of bugs and ability to do simple things like hilighting across pages and likely to take that for granted < 1391493300 700319 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you like buy both < 1391493307 906299 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes. Not at the same time though < 1391493314 522521 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1391493352 488770 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think partially wanted the glow light stuff, partially sick of the Nook's perpetual bugginess, partially ... ads maybe < 1391493369 194468 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also remembering that the Kindle had a feature that I kept wishing the Nook had < 1391493472 950405 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :040, 041, 044, 0450, 046 and 050 (the initial 0 is dropped when used with the country code) used to be operator-specific prefixes for mobile phone networks, but they changed it so that you can keep the number when switching operators, so they're all mixed up these days. < 1391494279 273808 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how consumerist < 1391495560 52999 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the same thing happened in Korea, +82 (0)10 vs. +82 (0)1[1-9]. < 1391495646 240414 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1391495648 85234 :heroux_!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1391495738 869247 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://necros.gibdon.com/scene-music-minor < 1391495763 467850 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pentagonal Dreams is "less in quality than average, or short" according to this person < 1391495763 953464 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1391495861 2336 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1391495896 210362 :conehead_!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391495925 97947 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391495925 514844 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391495925 817971 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391495925 818130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391495925 818200 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391495926 497151 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391495926 932046 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391495927 821652 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391495928 39220 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391495954 210739 :heroux_!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl NICK :heroux < 1391496106 459339 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'infinity' which is on the main list, is about as short as pentagonal dreams < 1391496459 466015 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391496526 181254 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1391497732 700350 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it must be "less in quality than average". < 1391498875 963278 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1391499953 216844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oona Räisänen‏ @windyoona: "Russians keep referring to me as Финский инженер (Finnish engineer). I wonder if it means something else." < 1391500050 163414 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391500274 173679 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391500314 146522 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read (some of) the Slashdot comments about that helicopter thing, and I wish I hadn't. < 1391500323 286289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1391500345 154367 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it seemed to be approximately 90% about her gender. < 1391500359 6979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1391500678 170861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :she's pretty awesome < 1391500700 631375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :waiting for your meal at a restaurant? why not reverse engineer the wireless paging protocol http://www.windytan.com/2013/09/the-burger-pager.html < 1391500753 326247 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391500761 318340 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391500803 866910 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391500838 539612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what her job is < 1391501071 795650 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391501113 587439 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Software developer, I think. We have some friends in common. (You know, Finland; it's not such a giant community.) < 1391501152 946662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the company with the silliest YouTube ads. < 1391501156 561256 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see if I can find one. < 1391501174 691618 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jym9rfQgec there you go < 1391501209 408230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I keep getting that in front of my videos, it's probably a geographically Finland-localized ad.) < 1391501297 644372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. what? < 1391501301 323260 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah obviously the comments should be about how she's finnish < 1391501314 734056 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Right, exactly! < 1391501327 709554 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There was a bit of that too, since it said "Finnish" in the title.) < 1391501333 66285 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, good < 1391501367 275663 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this video is available in 4K < 1391501368 517401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god < 1391501468 129227 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it make you want to go work there? < 1391501495 688591 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It didn't really "work" for me, personally.) < 1391501646 904606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... it kind of does, yeah < 1391501660 575940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also makes me feel like i'm not cool enough to work there < 1391501687 874769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the problem with this sort of thing < 1391501744 955808 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but their incredible committment to the "rockstar" trope is almost enough to make it un-terrible < 1391501761 190841 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391501771 278873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like they do some haskell too < 1391501782 246396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1391501878 274490 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were "best place to work at" (according to the Great Place to Work Institute's survey) in Finland for 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011, but not in the last couple of years. < 1391501982 239458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder what happened < 1391502049 208967 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess in 2012 at least they just didn't take part. < 1391502073 104295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, to be fair to other companies and all that. < 1391502198 990497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1391502376 60200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you work at the best place to work at does that mean there's nowhere to go but down :'( < 1391502407 870215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just by joining you're probably making the company worse :( < 1391502454 493383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're supposed to think of it so that if you switch jobs, you'll just have to help make the new place even better. < 1391502488 492839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently i work at the "best place to work at" (according to the Great Place to Work Institute's survey) < 1391502507 555549 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Globally, or regionally? (Do they even do a global ranking?) < 1391502510 552150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"best place at which to work" (according to grammar pedants) < 1391502540 707924 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've honestly never heard anyone do the preposition thing < 1391502541 430196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: p. sure that's a rule grammar pedants invented to have something to ped < 1391502557 401211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i don't know, i just went to their web page and clicked around < 1391502592 822256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but these are all us companies so i guess it's regional < 1391502595 883567 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys, I realized something < 1391502652 195845 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 220 V cable between the mains and the power supply is the oldest piece of technology we have in our computers. it's been exactly the same type of cable since the XT. < 1391502663 85280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine's only 115 V :( < 1391502680 114648 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost everything else in the hardware and software have been replaced with something more modern since much later. < 1391502685 583494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one's 230V, nominally. I'm sure that was the point. < 1391502705 272496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: anyway that's an interesting observation < 1391502707 447405 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, it used to be 220 V nominal back then, now it's 230 V nominal. < 1391502730 333075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the cable is IEC 60320 C13, for what it's worth) < 1391502762 787914 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :At home I'm still using the same computer as the one I've first had on my own, since about 18 years ago, but it's only the same computer because I think of it like that. < 1391502776 491696 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every part has been replaced at least once, most parts have been replaced multiple times, < 1391502791 291497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't replace the same part twice < 1391502797 940296 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at one point almost the whole hardware got replaced at the same time (but the hard disk stayed the same at that point). < 1391502799 706947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just the same part because you think of it like that < 1391502807 721321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have like 20 of those cables < 1391502815 378274 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but then did you truly replace it........!!) < 1391502818 266941 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: exactly, and it's the same computer only because I think of it like that. < 1391502835 401273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i use desktop computers anymore < 1391502853 179649 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: when all the hw got replaced, I could have decided it's a new computer only I migrated the hard disk and the software and the desk and some other stuff. < 1391502889 716876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i trust this Great Place to Work Institute v. much < 1391502909 257729 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION -> sleepytime < 1391502915 569206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good neegan < 1391502928 226748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1391502941 787458 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So anyway, the power cable isn't the same piece either, but that's the only part that hasn't been upgraded to something more modern. The same power cable I first used might still work today. < 1391502973 470757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the really old days it was just a cable < 1391503012 761872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now it's a 4p2o3w5e7r cable < 1391503018 851406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has to be an upgrade < 1391503024 310334 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the power led might be another candidate. Since when has that been using the same two-pin arrangement on the motherboard? < 1391503116 473096 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391503124 149347 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391503250 895329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 3.5mm jack is also a reasonably old design. < 1391503291 946878 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :god, hooking up the main bus on the motherboard was a pita. fucking speaker on a wire with this shitty ass hookup. < 1391503408 459806 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :came out at least four times during build, and that's where the fucking power button connects! < 1391503958 896647 :conehead_!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1391503959 114005 :conehead__!uid16140@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xjhhfblnvodqsngu NICK :conehead_ < 1391504480 58111 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391504511 695096 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: true < 1391505107 292553 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@93.115.94.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391505260 124909 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1391506245 358925 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391509151 813673 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-126-229.xdsl.xnet.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1391509266 787985 :elliott!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391509290 252420 :elliott!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com NICK :Guest1732 < 1391509338 375754 :Guest1732!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PART :#esoteric < 1391509338 555950 :Guest1732!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391509347 184554 :Guest1732!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SeeNoEvil: CTCP TIME? < 1391509350 989621 :Guest1732!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1391509360 776913 :elliott_!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391509382 522688 :elliott_!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com NICK :Guest50025 < 1391509411 856017 :Guest50025!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1391509421 753525 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391509710 525218 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-126-229.xdsl.xnet.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest1732: trying to understand IRC commands, and what time zone you are in. < 1391509813 520771 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-126-229.xdsl.xnet.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seem to recall some earlier chat where you seemed interested in eigenratios. < 1391509829 57698 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eigenratios are pretty cool < 1391509834 374407 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about them though... that must have been ages ago < 1391509847 307135 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-126-229.xdsl.xnet.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. I've been reading the logs. < 1391509903 642145 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my condolences, the further you go back the more annoying I am :P < 1391509966 721091 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-126-229.xdsl.xnet.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :You had a novel idea for defining a self-interpreter that wasn't "cheating" - having an eigenratio > 1. < 1391510000 17573 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-126-229.xdsl.xnet.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might not have been you. But I think it was - at least an "elliot". < 1391510020 58445 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that was mine, I think, though perhaps not originally or solely < 1391510037 583653 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I quite like it, but IIRC you can just cheat in a more elaborate way by defining the host language in a way that lets you do a cheating self-interpreter with an eigenratio slightly above 1 < 1391510059 428635 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, an eval instruction that adds a slight slowdown. < 1391510166 374229 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-126-229.xdsl.xnet.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might be a bit tricky to do I think. < 1391510182 174795 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-126-229.xdsl.xnet.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. Yes. I do... :-) < 1391510206 187827 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-126-229.xdsl.xnet.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think... I think... I think... it might be a bit trick. < 1391510245 514775 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-126-229.xdsl.xnet.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should create an actual working example. < 1391510249 216066 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, for instance < 1391510264 872162 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say you have an implementation where every instruction takes 1s to execute < 1391510273 867366 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when you call eval, any evals in the code you're evalling take 2s instead < 1391510279 264978 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then 4s when you nest deeper, etc. < 1391510298 802823 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this runs into another problem with this kind of stuff -- eigenratios are sort of an implementation-dependent notion rather than something inherent to the language) < 1391510393 174298 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-126-229.xdsl.xnet.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not always. Implement your own interpreter for the SUBLEQ interpreter on eigneration.blogspot,com and see it you do it in a way that produces a different eigenratio from the 34.xxx value. < 1391510459 291763 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-126-229.xdsl.xnet.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you create the bottom level interpreter, and then run a stack of the self-interpreter on the blog..... < 1391510630 76963 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-126-229.xdsl.xnet.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :In your example with eval(eval(eval(something))), how would the inner instances "know" to run slower? < 1391510884 941751 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-126-229.xdsl.xnet.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one: http://eigenratios.blogspot.co.nz/2006/09/mark-ii-oisc-self-interpreter.html < 1391511088 106811 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-126-229.xdsl.xnet.co.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta go. "I'll be back" some other time. < 1391511100 507145 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-126-229.xdsl.xnet.co.nz PART :#esoteric < 1391511180 183356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1391512330 267938 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391512339 180036 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391513112 607943 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-17-206.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1391513146 476481 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-17-206.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1391513146 656386 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391514031 846322 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1391518934 259484 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391519296 139030 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391519757 196147 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1391521098 989917 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391521380 944070 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1391521402 216284 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391521408 319392 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391521430 400122 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good SSL morning! < 1391521652 791006 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391521727 916502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ENVA < 1391521728 444069 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 041320Z 12008KT 080V150 CAVOK 06/M04 Q1008 TEMPO 16015G25KT RMK WIND 670FT 15010KT < 1391521789 27460 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1391521789 537253 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 041342Z 21006KT 8SM SCT037 BKN120 M12/M14 A3045 RMK SC3AC4 SLP314 < 1391521799 844219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1391521800 285392 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 041320Z 17006KT 2500 FZDZ BR BKN002 M00/M01 Q1023 TEMPO 1000 BKN001 < 1391521806 451260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still doing the M00. < 1391523095 707076 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Nooodles < 1391523105 196373 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1391523136 970469 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ramen < 1391523143 439681 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1391523171 425323 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor`: USE YOUR NECROMANCY SKILLZ AND REVIVE YOUR BOTS PLZKTHX. < 1391523224 450128 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the Wisdom doesn't have /no+dles/i, but it has ramen: 拉麵是一種類型的麵條縫製從原始樹木。hth < 1391523241 270199 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wisdom so does have Nooodles I'm looking at it right now < 1391523259 790347 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would anyone like to take over hosting the wiki < 1391523262 267526 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have time for it any more < 1391523286 699840 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: eh? < 1391523294 476139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh Hey I'm still alive! < 1391523296 462959 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp/input.31598: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /tmp/input.31598: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1391523299 837351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not. < 1391523302 672616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1391523306 640565 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, page 17 < 1391523308 482607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo Hey I'm still alive! < 1391523308 965796 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp/input.31656: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /tmp/input.31656: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1391523321 554916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo Hey I'm still alive\! < 1391523322 30687 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp/input.31732: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /tmp/input.31732: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1391523334 859135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo 'Hey I'm still alive!' < 1391523335 332123 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp/input.31784: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /tmp/input.31784: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1391523340 708561 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I have a lecture to attend 2 miles away < 1391523340 925217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rgh < 1391523343 176540 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I fail at grep. < 1391523345 804864 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ----> away < 1391523351 463842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo "Hey I'm still alive!" < 1391523351 893423 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey I'm still alive! < 1391523356 857117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEE < 1391523404 188904 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo "~echo !sh echo \"~echo hello\"" < 1391523404 661143 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo !sh echo "~echo hello" < 1391523410 529024 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1391523495 92275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia: ~echo hi < 1391523502 132066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. < 1391523531 889384 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shields his bot from meddling Scandinavians < 1391523582 274628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwahahahandinavians < 1391523662 4757 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that is not a reassuring response < 1391523979 293175 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: btw, by “hosting over”, you mean only yielding your admin responsibilities to someone else, or move everything to a new server also? < 1391524044 32729 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter; handing over root access on the box I store semi-sensitive stuff and IRC from isn't my idea of fun :p < 1391524077 47366 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the problem isn't sysop duty so much as upgrading mediawiki and so on -- it's not actually much effort, I've just been neglecting it and appear likely to continue to do so for the forseeable future < 1391524187 511204 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, it's been two years since I took over the wiki < 1391524188 786814 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :time flies < 1391524295 912460 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: where has your time gone < 1391524310 479542 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you started doing the booze < 1391524318 613070 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1391524346 258620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1391524380 626812 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(o dear he do the booze.) < 1391524465 170862 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I've been drunk for the past year < 1391524485 785628 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting my affairs in order before my inevitable death from liver failure, etc. etc. etc. < 1391524491 491192 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no seriously I'm just lazy < 1391524568 766747 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO UMM WHY DID YOU SAY "elliott__> I don't have time for it any more" IF YOU MEANT THAT YOU ARE JUST LAZY, THAT SEEMS A BIT ILLOGICAL COULD YOU EXPLAIN < 1391524675 353644 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds better < 1391524681 434625 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my phd thesis is currently 114 pages < 1391524689 690363 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*draft < 1391524719 92759 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how proud are you on a scale from 1 to \omega < 1391524733 383835 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1391524821 945991 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(most of it is doodles of dicks and walruses) < 1391524956 996782 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ω² - 2ω, but only iff your dick-to-walrus ratio is within φ±ε. < 1391524976 100390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"only if and only if". < 1391525024 580456 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry. I RAS syndromized that. < 1391525036 457300 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how surreal! < 1391526322 247869 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that isn't even between 1 to omega < 1391526330 219709 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, it doesn't even make sensee < 1391526379 567939 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know ^^ < 1391526408 387277 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391526538 448593 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh bin/relcome password2 < 1391526539 10097 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp/input.397: line 1: bin/relcome: No such file or directory < 1391526553 230827 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor`: I can't relcome people! < 1391526590 999596 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I'm 1075000000 proud of you on that scale < 1391526598 339258 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :approximately < 1391526803 615371 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems appropriate < 1391526819 371057 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i think that's a bit closer to 0 than \omega :( < 1391526858 431453 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also ω² - 2ω is a perfectly cromulent surreal number < 1391527506 455777 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, a question remains unanswered: of what use are surreal numbers? < 1391527621 178920 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like them as an example of a field that fails to be complete because there are too many numbers between 0 and 1 < 1391527645 739134 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am, btw, still amazed that they form a field at all.) < 1391527664 24399 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION 's brains choke on int-e's affirmation < 1391527695 436657 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ... ordered field. < 1391527833 742521 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperreal numbers are used in non-standard analysis. is there a nice way to map those into the surreals? < 1391527881 367061 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is non-standard analysis, and while we're on the subject, standard analysis? < 1391528089 448348 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah I don't know this stuff. I'd say that analysis is abstract calculus; you have measure theory, integrals, derivatives, function spaces, many notions of convergence ... but ultimately based on real numbers. non-standard analysis has inifiniesimals and inifinities, allowing things like the dirac delta function. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_delta_function < 1391528090 833209 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-standard analysis is when you take an ultrafilter U on N, and say that a hyperreal number is a function R^N and a < b if the set of coordinates i s.t. a_i < b_i is in U (exactly one of the sets {i | a_i < b_i}, {i | a_i > b_i}, {i | a_i = b_i} is in U, because it's an ultrafilter) < 1391528115 242153 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and oklopol just provided the definition of a hyperreal number) < 1391528119 565154 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1391528121 618307 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you have a lot of numbers between 0 and any number larger than it, because any sequence going to 0 provides you with one < 1391528130 844982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There should probably be a backup relcome in fungot.) < 1391528131 80058 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fnord? alice? < 1391528137 336781 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah definitions are totally better than explanations < 1391528162 821527 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391528169 108502 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh fungot is back. I wonder whether it's become smarter. < 1391528169 383809 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: but a computer science textbook than a scheme source that exercises every aspect of a lisp name, i presume < 1391528210 964977 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1391528211 144673 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^

; ^def   ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool
< 1391528255 625822 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the 0-9 in ^str?
< 1391528281 701377 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1391528313 743375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A number.
< 1391528316 105496 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ten slots for strings, that could be referenced as str:N in a ^def I suppose
< 1391528317 74011 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 42 get
< 1391528317 253654 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]
< 1391528321 467783 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 4 get
< 1391528321 647498 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Empty.
< 1391528325 687269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1391528328 276574 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 0 get
< 1391528328 459113 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+++++++++++++++[>++++++++>++++>+++++++>+++++++<<<<-]>>++++++.>++++++.<<----.>----------------------------------.<----.>>+++.<<-----------.+.>>>.<++++++.<<-.>>-----.<++++++++++++++++++++++++++.--------------------------.<+.>>++.>+++++.<<<+.>>>+.<-.<.>----------------------.<++++++++++++.------------.>----------------------.<<------.>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.>>----.<---.<++++.++++++++.>-
< 1391528381 753144 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!test
< 1391528381 933122 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :test
< 1391528382 112812 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf +++++++++++++++[>++++++++>++++>+++++++>+++++++<<<<-]>>++++++.>++++++.<<----.>----------------------------------.<----.>>+++.<<-----------.+.>>>.<++++++.<<-.>>-----.<++++++++++++++++++++++++++.--------------------------.<+.>>++.>+++++.<<<+.>>>+.<-.<.>----------------------.<++++++++++++.------------.>----------------------.<<------.>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.>>----.<---.<++++.+++...
< 1391528382 802856 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgjjj
< 1391528388 93192 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...+++++.>-
< 1391528394 673953 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. darn.
< 1391528408 367349 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be easy enough to add a backup welcome, then
< 1391528419 908103 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that string is incomplete anyway.
< 1391528452 941583 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf str:0
< 1391528465 272248 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err
< 1391528473 550494 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it only likes that in ^def's
< 1391528481 44854 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391528495 105992 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: thanks. and about the Dirac: I guess that's why the teachers told us that it wasn't kinda like a regular function, waved their hands, and continued teaching.
< 1391528520 108678 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yay engineering! we do stuff with advanced maths, but don't know why!)
< 1391528531 441817 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ^str does not necessarily print completely, if it's too long.
< 1391528545 193131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def tmp bf str:0
< 1391528545 410251 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined.
< 1391528546 272170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^tmp
< 1391528546 452354 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, jconn ), blsqbot !
< 1391528550 209154 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, it's fine.
< 1391528574 424219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's like that because of the ).
< 1391528659 626380 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's problematic with the ) ?
< 1391528701 626906 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I forget to close an opening parenthesis (like this
< 1391528714 997697 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :)
< 1391528717 364351 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :) then the closing one will typically be on the next line ;)
< 1391528717 740407 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: |syntax error
< 1391528717 919811 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: |   then the closing one will typically be on the next line;)
< 1391528732 959476 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: (
< 1391528736 337654 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :)
< 1391528743 677012 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still unbalanced.
< 1391528745 328993 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(
< 1391528745 859922 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP UNBALANCING THE UNIVERSE, YOU VILE FUNGOTTER!
< 1391528748 394219 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :)))))))
< 1391528762 556578 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you closed a parenthesis that I closed as well.
< 1391528770 317922 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(((((((
< 1391528783 170195 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: A lone ) is not outputtable with Underload, which is what static strings like that on fungot usually use.
< 1391528783 584559 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there is nothing behind the grape-0 includes all brainfuck programs with up to sixty five thousand states. feel particularly compelled to read it.
< 1391528796 97322 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :（）（）（）（）（）（）（）（）
< 1391528806 484369 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you should be happy that I'm not compensating for the smileys.
< 1391528809 649549 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I see
< 1391528847 420910 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def tmp bf ,[.,]!does i/o work here too?
< 1391528847 600898 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined.
< 1391528851 514492 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^tmp
< 1391528857 524708 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^tmp test?
< 1391528857 704100 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :test?
< 1391528861 477084 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1391528867 549883 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^tmp ^tmp test?
< 1391528867 729643 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^tmp test?
< 1391528884 297293 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^tmp ~echo ^tmp ~echo ^tmp ~echo ^tmp ~echo test!
< 1391528884 476881 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo ^tmp ~echo ^tmp ~echo ^tmp ~echo test!
< 1391528884 676363 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^tmp ~echo ^tmp ~echo ^tmp ~echo test!
< 1391528884 856131 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo ^tmp ~echo ^tmp ~echo test!
< 1391528885 35532 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^tmp ~echo ^tmp ~echo test!
< 1391528885 215197 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo ^tmp ~echo test!
< 1391528885 394921 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^tmp ~echo test!
< 1391528885 574503 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo test!
< 1391528885 754279 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test!
< 1391528894 332885 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION grins like a maniac
< 1391528895 500149 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 1 get
< 1391528895 680092 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>,[>,]<[<]>[<++++[>--------<-]+>-[-------[--[<+++[>----<-]+>[<
< 1391528919 93367 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def aux ^bf str:1
< 1391528919 273000 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ^def   
< 1391528924 804367 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def aux bf str:1
< 1391528924 984259 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mismatched [].
< 1391528934 4233 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 2 get
< 1391528934 184208 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Empty.
< 1391528946 856798 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 0-9 get
< 1391528947 37109 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]
< 1391529091 177354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No need to be so literal.
< 1391529119 608971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's something in 5 and 9 too.
< 1391529128 360678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def tmp bf str:5
< 1391529128 540215 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined.
< 1391529131 88760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^tmp foo
< 1391529131 268311 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, jconn ) , blsqbot !
< 1391529137 210343 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's just the same.
< 1391529139 888477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def tmp bf str:9
< 1391529140 68217 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined.
< 1391529141 664390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^tmp foo
< 1391529141 846060 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica,  ...
< 1391529147 253261 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice
< 1391529169 215080 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 9 get
< 1391529169 394746 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[.,]++++++++++++++[>++++++++>++++>+++++++>++++++<<<<-]>>++.--------------------------.>>+++.++++++++++++++.+++++++.<+.>+++.--.<++.<.<++++.>>>++.<<.>>+++++.<+++.---.<.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+++++.>>.<.>--.----.<----.<<.>-----.>>+.-.<.>--.<-----------------------------------------------------------------.<-.+++++++++++++.>>----------.<.>++++.<<------.<--.>>.+++++++++++++++++++++
< 1391529174 223081 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Output length limits strike again.
< 1391529191 590627 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program is probably complete, it's just that the bf interpreter has an overly short maximum length limit.
< 1391529191 782678 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ...
< 1391529191 962372 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found.
< 1391529203 360649 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1391529203 542311 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
< 1391529261 199982 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@93.115.94.148 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1391529305 873028 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@93.115.94.148 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391529556 565280 :passby!~mypirc@120.168.1.225 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391529579 422880 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^tmp passby
< 1391529579 602612 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :passby: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoteric ...
< 1391529595 473539 :passby!~mypirc@120.168.1.225 PART :#esoteric
< 1391529605 777623 :passby!~mypirc@120.168.1.225 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1391530199 974183 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's one reason to have rle bf
< 1391530202 328152 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DDOS still going on? I couldn't connect earlier
< 1391530209 61689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was close to pinging out on this attempt
< 1391530290 660346 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: weird. I thought it calmed down yesterday fternoon, and SSL is back on track today.
< 1391530389 856605 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't people think about anyone else?
< 1391530392 165838 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily
< 1391530458 430944 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because people.
< 1391530461 8537 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia 
< 1391530528 213523 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is new job
< 1391530563 794284 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391530596 786007 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: unknown. I start next week. if it is yours, also unknown.
< 1391530611 901535 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frhellooxius.
< 1391530621 880488 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i don't have a new job. you never got me one.
< 1391530657 944531 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so what are you doing this week?
< 1391530737 928137 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: documenting what I was working on, tutorialing the teammates, (subtly) lazying around on IRC and wikipédia...
< 1391530757 676685 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: sounds like a good week to invent a new esolang
< 1391530775 408158 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you're already better at it than. you're on cpressey's list!
< 1391530797 433658 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel has plenty of lists, doesn't it?
< 1391530802 368414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is cpressey's list a list of people who asked about cpressey's list?
< 1391530805 805618 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, I'm on it now, I guess
< 1391530817 425787 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is cpressey's list?
< 1391530842 371335 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you were apparently on it already, no point in asking
< 1391530890 727982 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh well. time to retroactively bask in the Glory of being in Cpressey's List.
< 1391530896 575009 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: of course you are on it. you are also better at esolang than me
< 1391531005 673837 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know what year Half-Broken Car in Heavy Traffic came out?
< 1391531057 532065 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'm not convinced I'm better at BF Joust than you, though
< 1391531085 496703 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I horribly suck at the Joust.
< 1391531091 912371 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@93.115.94.148 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1391531110 599615 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'll concede we are roughly equal there, but that only says we have too much timme on our hands roughly once a year
< 1391531128 827724 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I don't have too much time on my hands right now
< 1391531145 508738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm upset at my latest strategy not being able to top the hill
< 1391531153 408237 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even when it beats every other program, it still doesn't top the hill
< 1391531158 856985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is really frustrating
< 1391531166 521135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to, like, make it beat every other program by more, or something
< 1391531181 72211 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm the original document for HBCHT says it was created 2011. does anyone remember seeing it anywhere before 2011?
< 1391531210 872130 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having a Baby Cat Hurl on the Table?
< 1391531239 826659 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Half-Broken Car in Heavy Traffic seems likely from context
< 1391531241 324312 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereollah
< 1391531265 17442 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woops
< 1391531268 955448 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong channel
< 1391531273 701124 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait
< 1391531274 381902 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No
< 1391531277 366721 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the correct one
< 1391531281 519391 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a HBCHT 
< 1391531286 76550 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1391531305 470133 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right
< 1391531308 113021 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You answered
< 1391531311 981314 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVERMIND
< 1391531348 339475 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is cpressey's list: http://catseye.tc/node/Esolang
< 1391531362 325250 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a number on here i never looked at before
< 1391531369 530005 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, it's a BCT variant which uses '0', '1', and 'H'; the 'H'es don't do anything but you have to sprinkle them into the program anyway, much like PLEASE in INTERCAL
< 1391531439 622552 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it seems I'm quite good at guessing which of my esolangs would appeal to cpressey
< 1391531454 822414 :nooodl_!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391531462 751913 :nooodl_!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1391531632 645519 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :re Aubergine: “nothing spectacular, but somewhat cute.” heh :D
< 1391531638 856811 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391531673 419041 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, who's online right now?
< 1391531679 488118 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im surprised at how big this channel is
< 1391531692 94195 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its pretty big, isn't it?
< 1391531701 955126 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1391531723 715656 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get the feeling that we're probably the only two active users right now.
< 1391531735 549864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1391531737 794414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we being trolled?
< 1391531738 395877 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe
< 1391531743 92236 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or three.
< 1391531748 1873 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been pretty active today
< 1391531753 135732 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh that's good
< 1391531758 614613 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely never seen these two before
< 1391531761 972998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I've never seen either of you here today
< 1391531762 937776 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i see lots of words here
< 1391531768 461262 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means rainbow welcome time?
< 1391531773 109449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome password2 johnnie
< 1391531775 226572 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. and I couldn't `relcome them properly. *cough* Gregor` *cough*
< 1391531781 335931 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the rainbow welcome bot is down
< 1391531782 244881 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the gregorbots are dead.
< 1391531795 7222 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i though the relcome is a typo
< 1391531804 124809 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: it's a Rainbow wELCOME.
< 1391531813 660570 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1391531813 840446 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh don't worry about it. I'm new to the whole process anyway. I have only one entry on the Esoteric wiki.
< 1391531824 205261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("I'm a gregorbot and I'm not dead!\n");
< 1391531827 960052 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :johnnie: neat! that's a good start.
< 1391531828 139751 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a gregorbot and I'm not dead!
< 1391531829 844974 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, thanks :)
< 1391531836 739135 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have nada
< 1391531844 965279 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: dammit now i'm singing the lumberjack song :(
< 1391531865 465898 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: uhm. I would like to say that it's not my fault, but then...
< 1391531878 891850 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPAM/1...I'm going to flesh it out some more tonight. I have a lot of good ideas about it. But I need to iron those out.
< 1391531880 198819 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb
< 1391531892 577724 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good, Phantom_Hoover isn't here, so you're safe even if it's a BF derivative
< 1391531908 672526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but SPAM/1 isn't a BF derivative so that works even better
< 1391531912 690112 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :johnnie: have you looked at the PDF in the /topic?
< 1391531925 397765 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't, boily, no.
< 1391531978 184270 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to work in SPAM/1 as part Monty Python joke. SPAM/2 was supposed to have been "SPAM/EGGS/SAUSAGE/SPAM" and SPAM/3 as "I/DONT/LIKE/SPAM"
< 1391531978 438916 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, any esolang that requires snailmail to implement is pretty creative
< 1391531983 657803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if unlikely to actually be implemented
< 1391531995 339617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think SPAM/1 is probably better just as it is
< 1391532046 670905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :johnnie: what order does XMTR retrive the stored data in?
< 1391532046 965084 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the idea of BF. I took SPAM/1 is a different direction by making the input minimal instead of making the language minimal.
< 1391532114 865258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing about BF is that BF itself is pretty good, but people have a tendency to make uncreative minor variations on it
< 1391532118 741120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which gets really annoying after a while
< 1391532138 822499 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF is great as hell
< 1391532146 761417 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty good to prove Turing completeness
< 1391532159 273969 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used Dartmouth-BASIC as a model for the bulk of the commands. XMTR is nothing more than a Basic DATA statement.
< 1391532194 15832 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so good that people start to have strange ideas like "this isn't turing-complete because it's not readily obvious how to directly reduce BF to it"
< 1391532206 670846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :johnnie: oh right
< 1391532208 736774 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also if someone asks you to make a compiler at gunpoint?
< 1391532213 34128 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bam, make a BF compiler!
< 1391532215 114015 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're done
< 1391532224 32300 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: boring, like half my languages there's no obvious way to reduce BF to them directly
< 1391532233 20545 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get asked to make a compiler at gunpoint every Tuesday
< 1391532236 591841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: can't I make a Quiler self-compiler?
< 1391532244 676370 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that targets Quiler?
< 1391532245 644560 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: that's not a situation I think I'd find myself in in the foreseeable future...
< 1391532265 376418 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(contrary to quintopia, who lives the American Dream every week.)
< 1391532266 817765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think any sequence of bytes fulfils that restriction
< 1391532270 860743 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You never know!
< 1391532301 340372 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: being forced to write a compiler while a moose is charging towards you, that is more likely for me.
< 1391532306 863019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Quiler is defined as folows: given any input, a Quiler compiler ignores it and outputs a Quiler compiler)
< 1391532325 885022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it is not a massively useful language)
< 1391532354 278328 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canadian eh?
< 1391532365 33480 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: pretty much so. Québécois, even.
< 1391532379 17510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are mooses inherently Canadian, or just associated with Canada
< 1391532382 305116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm… meese?
< 1391532387 869431 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meeseses.
< 1391532402 641581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are the squirrels black in your area of Quebec too? or just Ottawa?
< 1391532404 34789 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mulling over a BASIC version of the "LIST" command for SPAM/1. How does this sound...in SPAM/1, LIST "program name" @ "address" will send a printed copy of the list program to the specified address.
< 1391532414 181739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :johnnie: that seems useful
< 1391532446 904428 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think mine is going towards a Chindogu. :)
< 1391532452 529432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I'm trying to work out if SPAM/1 has the ability to store infinite data
< 1391532455 572312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I had an esolang idea
< 1391532462 384718 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there are also meese in maine and alaska and other such northerly places
< 1391532481 98479 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i always have esolang ideas
< 1391532486 468457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here it is: the only unlimited-size data store available, you can add a datum to it (of fixed maximum size), and remove a random datum from it
< 1391532491 993113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it
< 1391532497 82492 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got at least 3 just sitting around on paper
< 1391532503 650217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can this be TC, I wonder?
< 1391532522 534467 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: depends on the rest of the language
< 1391532526 149543 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gotta get back to work. But it's good to know this place is useful for peer reviewing these ideas.
< 1391532528 726437 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: regardless of the rest of the language
< 1391532554 432991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember, this is the /only/ unlimited store, you're pasting it onto an FSM
< 1391532569 124641 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: we can't disregard the rest of the language. if the rest of the language provides a means to recognize which datum was removed...
< 1391532582 596202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the store is unordered
< 1391532594 36740 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: our squirrels are gray. sometimes you get a glimpse of an albino one.
< 1391532594 933121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or as in, we have the rest of the language, and we have the store
< 1391532596 652816 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye guys!
< 1391532608 136752 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :johnnie: adieu!
< 1391532608 447250 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye
< 1391532613 522192 :johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
< 1391532618 69137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the only way they can communicate is via "add this element", "retrieve a random element"
< 1391532653 172146 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391532673 607117 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: okay but still. consider an instruction like "test for divisibility by x and branch"
< 1391532691 944150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the data themselves are finite size
< 1391532699 248126 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: then you can store bits as primes
< 1391532700 904722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's equivalent to a really really large switch-case
< 1391532911 168612 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1391532979 956597 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what makes a programming language esoteric
< 1391533020 623539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure there's any hard answer
< 1391533034 47985 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah i think the unordered thing mostly breaks TC. if only aggregate data are available, you end up with no more than a single perceptron at best.
< 1391533034 600534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's lots of gray area
< 1391533041 633377 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any soft ones then :p
< 1391533052 791818 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: yes on the wiki
< 1391533059 656180 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1391533083 393632 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the wiki is?
< 1391533091 764691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a working answer of "there wouldn't be any point in trying to create a useful standard library", but that excludes some languages like Funge-98
< 1391533095 318350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
< 1391533097 277373 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs.org or something
< 1391533105 405298 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that
< 1391533109 707978 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you haven't gone there yet, do so, the channel makes no sense if you haven't seen the website it's associated with
< 1391533144 35375 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have been on ther i think , but it was a few moons ago
< 1391533177 412203 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh i just randomly joined this channel after listing channels on freenode
< 1391533388 306876 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? this channel totally makes sense without that wiki, as long as you know esoteric programming languages from other sources
< 1391533395 635611 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1391533405 619860 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least it makes as much sense as it makes with the wiki
< 1391533416 123554 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think your definition holds anyone. just because people make libraries for esolangs doesn't mean that there was any point in doing so.
< 1391533421 955440 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't we have the url of the wiki in the channel topic though?
< 1391533430 625698 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*anyway
< 1391533461 285861 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe because we relcome everyone anyway
< 1391533486 296576 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or we would
< 1391533500 228814 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we had another bot that could
< 1391533508 232502 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot can't even finish a sentence
< 1391533508 450468 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: did either book mention schroedinger's cat? :() but i'll put it online :p
< 1391533511 507102 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1391533515 687225 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense
< 1391533535 267794 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :relcome
< 1391533653 427096 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, and apparently the url to the wiki is in the chanserv welcome message
< 1391533668 275108 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so chanserv claims
< 1391533713 32411 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow , my internets is slow
< 1391533777 108639 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: care to take any bets on how many kb in a SELECT. 99 bottles program. assume it singularizes correctly and prints the optional verse.
< 1391533888 183330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/SELECT.
< 1391533894 383128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not aware of the language
< 1391533964 126713 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is scary
< 1391533972 951446 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this SELECT. language 
< 1391534005 876687 :atriq!9020800e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.14 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391534028 951824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it doesn't seem that different from BF in terms of storage and flow control, so the main difficulty is just the storage for the images
< 1391534050 434299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing of the order of tens of KB because of that
< 1391534074 129249 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do these EXP. and LOG. and SELECT. commands work?
< 1391534146 104108 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very rapidly
< 1391534177 697478 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: haha. no and very unlikely.
< 1391534226 719438 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it not jump by the distance of the result?
< 1391534231 412494 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: more reasonable would be in the hundreds of kb with comments and indentation stripped.
< 1391534242 579877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I think that by picking an appropriate base, you can construct a value that has real>imag change after 256 exps, which are reversible by logs
< 1391534242 798967 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but i'll let you know once i've written it.
< 1391534253 999467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on what font you use, ofc
< 1391534269 2771 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you copy numbers exactly in this SELECT. language?
< 1391534273 188654 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523:  7pt deja vu sans mono
< 1391534277 847487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: same way as in BF
< 1391534286 5444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, the numbers are a red herring
< 1391534296 203993 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't want to work with the numbers specifically
< 1391534300 792196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with their mathematical properties
< 1391534305 588079 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah complex number , not used to seeing them in a programming language
< 1391534310 84095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a typical program's going to store integers, BF-style, but not store them /as/ integers
< 1391534317 945167 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: RIGHT. EXP. LEFT. SELECT. RIGHT. LOG. RIGHT. SELECT. LEFT. will copy a number one cell to the right.
< 1391534324 785730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but rather by extracting them from a set of complex numbers that are easily inter-converted
< 1391534343 401801 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, it seems that quintopia's method of esolang programming is entirely different from mine :-)
< 1391534359 167660 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: hmm
< 1391534397 443285 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that seems strange
< 1391534441 546042 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my first rule of esolang programming is: even if the esolang has numbers, it's often a bad idea to use them, you can go synthesize your own arithmetic instead if it's easier
< 1391534468 974183 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe
< 1391534490 482872 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is that something you learnt from intercal?
< 1391534492 60750 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391534505 916483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no, actually using numbers as numbers in INTERCAL isn't so bad
< 1391534542 868913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although modern versions are actually TC with no variables involved at all, I think
< 1391534561 7901 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, you could definitely just store your numbers as nth exponentiations of i^(1/4)^((1/2)^(1/256)) i suppose, but you'll still have to convert them to output them.
< 1391534576 988469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I/O is normally comparatively minor although I guess not in 99bob
< 1391534595 534894 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um, no variables is a bit going too far
< 1391534615 798998 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because intercal has very convenient operations variable
< 1391534625 776791 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: sure, but they're also unreadable
< 1391534628 722713 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it has array indexing and indexed assignment
< 1391534639 830094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you eschew variables entirely, it mostly just looks like COBOL, which isn't so bad
< 1391534641 395802 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/1/2/2/
< 1391534670 957305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot to escape the second /
< 1391534676 765038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :making that substitution pretty hard to read
< 1391534687 764837 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i was lagged out at the time and i knew you'd understand
< 1391534704 556992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me like 10 seconds to figure it
< 1391534740 187089 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so in SELECT., the SELECT. statement doesn't write to the cell under the pointer. it writes to where the pointer was when you last did LOG. or EXP.
< 1391534755 365697 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1391534832 999332 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: even then that sequence you gave doesn't make sense to me
< 1391534843 495177 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"RIGHT. EXP. LEFT. SELECT. RIGHT. LOG. RIGHT. SELECT. LEFT. will copy a number one cell to the right."
< 1391534875 705935 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you have to assume both cells to the right contain the same constant k.
< 1391534903 771858 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. but how do you get such a state if the tape starts from random numbers?
< 1391534916 250102 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct me if I'm not mistaken , to write a brainfuck simulator would not be very difficult?
< 1391534935 300487 :atriq!9020800e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: it isn't at all.
< 1391534936 331524 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: not very, no
< 1391534942 715613 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm
< 1391534957 589686 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the tape starts like ...k k k k k k k k k...
< 1391534996 922985 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah!
< 1391535008 788103 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :k is ostensibly randomly selected, but they are all equal, so it doesn't matter
< 1391535017 732160 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Funnily enough, the under-the-hood representation is RLE-ish.
< 1391535019 603885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show tmp
< 1391535019 783525 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[.,]+14[>+8>+4>+7>+6<4-]>2+2.-26.>2+3.+14.+7.<+.>+3.-2.<+2.<.<+4.>3+2.<2.>2+5.<+3.-3.<.+73.+5.>2.<.>-2.-4.<-4.<2.>-5.>2+.-.<.>-2.<-65.<-.+13.>2-10.<.>+4.<2-6.<-2.>2.+69.<2+.>.+5.>.<-2.>+4.>-3.-67.<2-2.<-.-3.-8.>+2.<-6.>-5..>.<+.<+6.>3.<2-2.>-8.<+2.<.>+7.>.<2.-2.>3.<3-.>2+4.<-2.>+4.-2.<-5.>2.<-6.<.>+3.>.<3.+.>+2.<+7.>-.+10.<+.>2+.<2+.>-5.>2+.-.<-31.<2+.>-2.>2.<2-5.+2.+3.>+31.>.<+4.<-4.-8.>+6.+3.<2-2.>-5.>+2.<2-4.+6.-.>3+12.-12.
< 1391535022 882593 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If i'm bored enough , it would make an interesting easter egg
< 1391535031 131322 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Away for now.)
< 1391535110 24174 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :easter egg for what
< 1391535123 536883 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::}
< 1391535125 334737 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you figure out anything about that brainfuck-dowhile language btw?
< 1391535134 706150 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a td
< 1391535175 322194 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should eat i've been laying here for two hours being hungry
< 1391535222 893236 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh , i'm waiting for mince to defrost so i can start making stirfry
< 1391535225 282066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I created a language like that
< 1391535228 511522 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if it's on the wiki
< 1391535247 968273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: huh, I didn't think of combining those two foods, but it's kind-of obvious in retrospect
< 1391535264 531395 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1391535270 390451 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1391535276 631920 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :students tends to summon weird combinations
< 1391535278 171849 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391535302 897883 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll eat bread dipped in anything less runny than bread
< 1391535345 387309 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: we talked about it yesterday. it's a bf variant where a bracket loop runs at least once, so it's like a do-while instead of a while loop. +- commands are modulo 256.
< 1391535363 854733 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: int-e asked yesterday whether it's turing complete, to which I handwaved a proof that it is.
< 1391535392 831335 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e might have a code generator by today or something.
< 1391535399 397056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I designed that ages ago
< 1391535409 924259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I was learning Python live on #esoteric
< 1391535414 3382 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1391535414 258745 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by entering it into codebots
< 1391535423 418217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: I originally learned to write Python with no newlines
< 1391535429 368298 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'd like to see your version of programming SELECT. honestly, seeing as how mine is so wasteful of tape. or would you just build a compiler from boolfuck or something?
< 1391535453 27403 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: did you learn it?
< 1391535456 736472 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is basically unreadable because you do exec "first line of loop:\n inside of loop", etc.
< 1391535459 395750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the basics
< 1391535472 245667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, I'd just compile from either boolfuck, or 8-bit non-wrapping BF
< 1391535480 636270 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so none of the functional programming/object-oriented aspects?
< 1391535492 865506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I learned those later, not live in #esoteric
< 1391535494 878388 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume in BF the instructions and memory is not the same space?
< 1391535499 96146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it doesn't really have any functional programming aspects
< 1391535503 602441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from functions being barely first-class
< 1391535517 154347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I think they were upgraded from economy class rather than buying the more expensive ticket
< 1391535519 445575 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: indeed
< 1391535525 508609 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1391535526 466588 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: bf has a lot of repeated symbols, so rle is perfect
< 1391535526 646408 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically I argued that you can translate (bf without the io) to bf-dowhile, for which you have to simulate each cell with a sequence of multiple cells. the translation is a bit wasteful but nothing unexpected for bf.
< 1391535526 646578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely seperate
< 1391535534 358669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is usually (but not always) the case in esolangs
< 1391535534 581771 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well yeah, but you can treat it functionally by having functions that take and return functions
< 1391535543 420134 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's faster to add 30 at once than to add 1 30 times
< 1391535552 562895 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, bf-dowhile can't quite have all values of a bf program because there's some io you can't do. 
< 1391535553 364486 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see http://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Self-modifying for esolangs where the code can be used as data, in one way or another
< 1391535566 337029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: we decided it was TC last time this came up, too
< 1391535569 246204 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't remember why
< 1391535585 71506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, it's obviously impossible to write a dofuck program which sometimes produces output and sometimes doesn't
< 1391535597 336968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't write cat, for instance, if you want it to work correctly on null input
< 1391535598 774904 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called dofuck? we didn't know it had a name
< 1391535611 328134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I called it, back then
< 1391535615 99245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in camelcase, DoFuck
< 1391535615 278820 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :great
< 1391535623 417466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's such an obvious idea it's probably been invented more than twice
< 1391535636 554295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DoFuck's easier to impl than BF, btw
< 1391535649 905781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you only have to be able to move the IP backwards, not forwards
< 1391535654 590708 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1391535660 646986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, by more than one instruction at a time
< 1391535683 524201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a language where the IP /only/ moves backwards is going to be sub-TC unless it's self-modifying or has first class functions or uses some other loophole I didn't think of
< 1391535725 244775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the first version looks something like SMITH, the second version arguably describes Underload)
< 1391535737 134992 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I have to choose, I prefer bf
< 1391535750 5245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to choose, normally
< 1391535751 34949 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :over dofuck that is
< 1391535760 274488 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about a language where values are stored in the IP?
< 1391535761 714758 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: if you like languages with the instructions and data mixed , ire  recommend Aubergunine (hi oboily)
< 1391535780 428669 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid lag dropping my backspaces
< 1391535789 399376 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's Aubergine
< 1391535790 143513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: that's almost equivalent to just storing them in a register
< 1391535794 906212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly completely equivalent
< 1391535800 217606 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: your backspaces echoed literally
< 1391535803 990201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is quite impressive
< 1391535813 37335 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Except it jumps where you are in code
< 1391535820 23466 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, by no means
< 1391535827 45900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: you mean storing them in the instruction?
< 1391535828 520890 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its get confuzing
< 1391535837 205008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first, still unpublished, esolang worked like that
< 1391535845 500927 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No, the instruction pointer itself
< 1391535855 799958 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my client doesn't even understand the characters of what you said 
< 1391535861 309434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: you mean the memory address that holds the location of the instruction pointer?
< 1391535862 34345 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't arm-32 sort of work like that?
< 1391535862 214301 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I guess that wouldn't be useful unless you had instruction memory aliasing
< 1391535884 623190 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've already written a cheat-quine in Aubergine. I should write a self-deleting program. That sounds ... i don't even know it's possible. it probably isn't
< 1391535889 395487 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really, I don't understand what FreeFull wants to say
< 1391535899 56676 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I mean, you write a value to the instruction pointer, so now it points at a different position in the instructions
< 1391535909 676885 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So basically storing data in a jump
< 1391535910 597423 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: that's just a computed jump
< 1391535932 810563 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: oh, so you just mean memory-mapping the instruction pointer?
< 1391535933 256709 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but certainly, the instruction pointer /stack/ is a very common way to store data in esolangs
< 1391535940 308824 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :With aliasing for the instruction memory, you could use it to pass a value to the code
< 1391535953 54161 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one nice rule of thumb is "two stacks = TC", which obviously has loads of exceptions but is still reasonably reliable in practice
< 1391535976 604101 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1391535976 826774 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
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< 1391536009 710841 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about two queues?
< 1391536010 922081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're having trouble proving a language TC, using the call stack as one is often a wise idea
< 1391536011 569100 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it miiiiiiiiiiight be possible to write a Aubergine program that overwrites itself with a's
< 1391536012 388808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: even one queue is often (but not always) enough
< 1391536016 766450 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: one queue is enough
< 1391536023 13506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see http://esolangs.org/wiki/DownRight, for instance
< 1391536047 510334 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's much easier to design a one-queue language that isn't TC than a two-stack language that isn't TC, by accident
< 1391536094 27728 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously both are trivial if you're trying, e.g. you could have two stacks but no commands that manipulate them)
< 1391536153 910593 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one queue reminds me to those very old home-built computers using a disk, before ram existed
< 1391536154 94224 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391536157 870960 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, int-e
< 1391536161 130894 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i want to design a language that has two stacks and a queue and is TC, but becomes sub-TC if you remove any one of the three
< 1391536189 584585 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: now you reminded me of delay line memory
< 1391536202 220786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you heard of that? it was used before magnetic core memory was invented, as in a really /really/ long time ago
< 1391536225 167152 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that bf-dowhile language we were talking about, ais523 calls it "DoFuck", says he also thinks it's turing-complete, and says "it's such an obvious idea it's probably been invented more than twice"
< 1391536228 54836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically data is stored using vibrations in a trough full of mercury, you put the data in at one end, and it comes out the other end a few seconds later
< 1391536236 226444 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes
< 1391536275 783306 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's crazy
< 1391536283 263352 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too young for these
< 1391536347 173159 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and I didn't eat aubergines. hi o quintopia!
< 1391536354 778240 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you also know that PAL decoders involve delay lines in quartz crystals?
< 1391536370 113610 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have seen one of those delay memorys on hackaday
< 1391536373 713785 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very awesome
< 1391536376 886391 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I didn't know that
< 1391536390 305240 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sound and piezo works as makeshift version
< 1391536398 404626 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(electric signals go in, vibrate the quartz, the vibrations zig zag across the crystal for exactly 60µs (or whatever the delay is), reach the other end and become electricity again)
< 1391536398 967144 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1391536407 412477 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy
< 1391536437 108714 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the outgoing signal (the last scanline) is compared to the current scanline to figure out the colors
< 1391536558 871065 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not an EE or a hardware guy, I don't really understand how classical television works in general.
< 1391536566 554863 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither
< 1391536584 768498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am an EE, so I have more of an idea
< 1391536592 475285 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I treat it as a black box, so to speak
< 1391536616 645186 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hi there, fellow engineer :D
< 1391536640 767318 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't use analog video signals these days at all if I can avoid them
< 1391536784 158914 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo a EE
< 1391536794 168313 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see more of em than CE on the tubes
< 1391537037 84430 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1391537038 153108 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391537052 46074 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maaaan
< 1391537061 681849 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried changing my registers to optimize some stuff
< 1391537072 709233 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then "Gotta use ax for that!"
< 1391537072 888710 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang
< 1391537076 336826 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ax you are a monster
< 1391537083 439871 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your thirst for power knows no end
< 1391537140 136608 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds dangerous "i tried changing my registers to optimize some stuff"
< 1391537140 863902 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p
< 1391537170 399088 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well i'm doing some basic graphics with x86
< 1391537183 829475 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1391537184 583396 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And i'm like "man, I'm tired of having to switch registers around"
< 1391537194 822287 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I tried to do another order with less saving involved
< 1391537195 876645 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no
< 1391537223 411548 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol i read that as resistors , instead of registers
< 1391537264 125563 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: just about the same thing. make a mistake and *FOOM* there goes the magic smoke.
< 1391537272 147251 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1391537274 222800 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe
< 1391537285 84524 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I did learn about the bswap trick
< 1391537287 801639 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is quite neat
< 1391537297 932681 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less shitty than popping and stacking
< 1391537308 545774 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck bwsap
< 1391537308 987648 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information
< 1391537311 423393 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck bswap
< 1391537311 870213 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information
< 1391537319 103554 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles the Duck
< 1391537336 337232 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bswap is to swap the 16 bits in a 32 bits registers
< 1391537350 768627 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought bswap reversed all the bytes in a register
< 1391537355 89326 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: oh. shiny!
< 1391537371 638723 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like [abcd....][xyz...] -> [xyz...][abcd...]
< 1391537395 897283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 bswap does reverse the order of all 4 or 8 bytes.
< 1391537404 545334 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't swap the two 16-bit halves.
< 1391537409 837758 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't it?
< 1391537410 484718 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm
< 1391537414 206439 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Misread it I guess
< 1391537429 510660 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rotate by 16 bits should work though
< 1391537436 708833 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh , am in a sound war with a firstyear
< 1391537457 978943 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Reverses the byte order of a 32-bit (destination) register: bits 0 through 7 are swapped with bits 24 through 31, and bits 8 through 15 are swapped with bits 16 through 23. "
< 1391537459 472023 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes
< 1391537504 453290 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.c-jump.com/CIS77/asm_images/bswap_eax.png
< 1391537507 818781 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So close and yet so far
< 1391537546 941688 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's go with a ROL
< 1391537551 361723 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that gives you abcd -> dcba, you just need abcd -> badc to turn that into abcd -> cdab
< 1391537551 573374 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1391537552 351996 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a dedicated instruction? bswap, I mean
< 1391537566 139536 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know whether there's an instruction for that though
< 1391537576 282242 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: It is, though only since the 486.
< 1391537611 277089 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well a rotation will work
< 1391537629 583686 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get more mileage out of 32 bit registers that way
< 1391537716 850885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If all you want is to use the high bits of eax as "shadow space" for ax, you can keep using bswap too.
< 1391537732 540072 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the byte order reversal doesn't matter.
< 1391537780 902828 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm
< 1391537783 233189 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True
< 1391537790 755641 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's go back with bswap then
< 1391537817 19907 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks
< 1391537876 519427 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus unlike pops, you can disregard the order
< 1391538024 372890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably saves two bytes, too, if the 486-dependency isn't a problem. ("0F C8+rd BSWAP" vs. "C1 /0 ib ROL r/m32, imm8" with an operand-size override prefix byte in 16-bit mode.)
< 1391538070 60041 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, well. I can't really deduce whether BSWAP also needs an operand-size override.
< 1391538130 829110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When the BSWAP instruction references a 16-bit register, the result is undefined", it says. Maybe that means it does. Saves a byte, anyway.
< 1391538271 766427 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it means intel and amd do it differently
< 1391538486 998729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was sort of assuming that since BSWAP only exists for 32 bits, it'd have an implicit default operand size of 32, but if they've bothered to put in that statement (and don't say so explicitly), I guess it probably doesn't.
< 1391538693 121677 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, my gay squares stopped changing color
< 1391538702 891732 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I changed the value of ah by mistake
< 1391538787 939024 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you change ah, eh?
< 1391538788 191171 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what does gnu stand for? yeah reading, wiki, so it doesn't need to
< 1391538814 383166 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I don't think that's on the Wiki™
< 1391538814 562726 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ' right'
< 1391538836 752113 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, stosb inputs al, not ah
< 1391538840 217984 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dang
< 1391538854 847492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: GNU's Noodly Unix.
< 1391538855 175262 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh ok, what file format should be scheme :) somebody'd probably implement it
< 1391538900 278491 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fairly sure somebody's already implemented scheme
< 1391538989 719906 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: did you forget? they already did implement scheme
< 1391538989 938071 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: darn this tab completion. i defined the scheme callback with a c world.
< 1391539029 422465 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo, my squares are gay again
< 1391539090 702286 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the screen clearing still fucks up 
< 1391539172 708727 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you sound like me, blasphemating against the Evil Tab Completion.
< 1391539172 894737 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ( define ( safe-apply func. args) ( for-each display args) ( car ' ' a" to *a*
< 1391539195 522470 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehm, wtf, my internet bank is running some kind of analytics script ... from a third-party web server with an expired certificate
< 1391539283 388627 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, were they straight?
< 1391539323 10337 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2 : The program displays squares, and then increment the color
< 1391539331 454261 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making them going through rainbow cycles
< 1391539346 253677 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah , but you said they are gay
< 1391539357 798098 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1391539364 554518 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1391539367 6684 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As gay as a three dollar bill, if bills were square
< 1391539399 419214 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1391539417 912639 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/Yx1V0kK6
< 1391539434 841458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: block it
< 1391539435 986333 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does someone have any idea why the screen clearing hides the upper part of the screen
< 1391539444 234096 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yep, done
< 1391539449 698984 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every cycle, I delete the screen by blackening it
< 1391539458 859682 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And redoing the squares in the next cycle
< 1391539474 332625 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for some reason, the first 15 or so rows are totally black no matter what
< 1391539475 668578 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh , i cant remember when last i used assembly
< 1391539518 35822 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :third-party scripts you can't verify are a major malware source
< 1391539572 651098 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found a easyway to make any linux fanboy install malware
< 1391539626 27664 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried moving the screen clearing to various places
< 1391539642 943082 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before the drawing, after the drawing, after checking for the next screen display
< 1391539646 638328 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But nothing works
< 1391539682 352600 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably need to vsync
< 1391539688 539540 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did
< 1391539701 619490 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At label vsync0 and vsync1
< 1391539769 445887 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, are you sure dx has the expected value when you get there? I don't know what the calling convention of those interrupts are, but they might clobber it
< 1391539817 616642 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see
< 1391539830 793040 :atriq!9020800e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.14 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
< 1391539891 38296 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. the guys over at /r/vxjunkies don't have much information pertaining to vsync problems.
< 1391539897 154312 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are you back from your lecture?
< 1391539979 71658 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well
< 1391539986 250284 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a test would be to remove the vsyncs and see what changes
< 1391539999 706533 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or add a mov dx whatever 
< 1391540001 988800 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or both!
< 1391540052 931960 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh
< 1391540062 151622 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Removing the vsync actually works slightly better!
< 1391540074 741253 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see all squares, but they all kinda flicker
< 1391540088 508578 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's a speed problem?
< 1391540120 237676 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe the emulator isn't emulating vsync at all
< 1391540306 712807 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iricgftaevfavhgr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1391540365 979647 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly
< 1391540380 237785 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.com files don't play on my computer unfortunately
< 1391540407 684409 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I played many vidyah gehms on dosbox and it seems to have no problem with graphics
< 1391540439 908319 :password2!~password@197.76.53.211 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1391540445 314557 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good place to ask assembly questions?
< 1391540457 542355 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Outside of "The 1970's")
< 1391540613 112280 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 1980's might also be ok
< 1391540639 339964 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have any hairband
< 1391540805 746202 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is #assembly (iirc) on freenode, and when it's not plagued by "I almost know a bit of C, how do I make an OS?" #osdev would have people that know assembly
< 1391540814 784733 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you just ask fizzie
< 1391540841 268841 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: is there a #fizzie chännel?
< 1391540850 101984 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm guessing not
< 1391540878 294398 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: also, pretty sure it's spelled channel
< 1391540971 16578 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh...
< 1391541002 96867 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :böilü
< 1391541025 938102 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ïn̈ẗ-ë
< 1391541034 528890 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm slightly disappointed, is there really no lower case version of Ÿ?
< 1391541046 946052 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ÿ?
< 1391541047 125705 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ÿ?
< 1391541049 77716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: boily has been umlauting random letters for a while
< 1391541067 675106 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and isn't ÿ the last character in Latin-1?
< 1391541074 109107 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1391541099 476853 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh. indeed.
< 1391541116 139487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that gives it some sort of distinction
< 1391541129 772347 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ultimate letter
< 1391541147 720177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ÿ
< 1391541154 269907 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1391541165 589293 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION unicodely mapoles Gregor`
< 1391541176 549068 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hackego? *gasp*
< 1391541210 910494 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help
< 1391541212 971804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%x", 'ÿ')
< 1391541215 89919 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :c3bf
< 1391541220 933972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, it's Firefox that causes my compose key to stop working
< 1391541241 1189 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fromEnum 'ÿ'
< 1391541242 760989 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 255
< 1391541246 838670 :evalj!~jeval@4E5C4F20.dsl.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391541247 18323 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, EgoBot interpreted my UTF-8 as Latin-1
< 1391541259 822762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can tell it's 255 anyway if you have UTF-8 encoding memorised
< 1391541265 796730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't, but I know about the C2 and C3 ranges
< 1391541354 288113 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so that became a multicharacter character literal
< 1391541418 49182 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xwwfothbgxldfgvg JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391541602 443180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and those are impl-defined
< 1391541611 876131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I believe gcc's handing is to concatenate the bytes
< 1391541643 988600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is usually the right handling anyway
< 1391541666 670282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%x", *u8"ÿ");
< 1391541668 148188 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile.
< 1391541681 260805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if I got the syntax right, that's C11
< 1391541691 849145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%ld", __STDC_VERSION__);
< 1391541694 95716 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :199901
< 1391541699 120063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that compiler's C99
< 1391541703 378991 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would sort of be happier with "nope, that's not a character", but I think there's some legacy that needs them
< 1391541765 542299 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does *u8"ÿ" mean?
< 1391541785 700150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think u8"string" means "this string is UTF-8", in some sense
< 1391541787 831593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that
< 1391541789 884375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check the docs
< 1391541797 708251 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the * is just a pointer dereference as normal
< 1391541815 475595 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :which on a utf8 string just gives the first byte?
< 1391541819 298083 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1391541871 886318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I remembered right, it is u8"string" for a UTF-8 literal
< 1391541875 306386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm looking up what those do
< 1391541913 63334 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] 3 u:7 u: 'ÿ 0A[é'
< 1391541913 503447 :evalj!~jeval@4E5C4F20.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 255 32 48 65 91 233
< 1391541926 99258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, if you do u8"string", then the contents of the string are interpreted as in the source multibyte character set, and converted to UTF-8
< 1391541937 621822 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas normally they'd be converted to the execution narrow or wide character set
< 1391541949 752804 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah, that seems actually useful
< 1391541949 932457 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ^ that can show the unicode values
< 1391541957 870878 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] 3 u:7 u: 'őű'
< 1391541958 233757 :evalj!~jeval@4E5C4F20.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 337 369
< 1391541962 647544 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :takes utf8
< 1391541963 318292 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does J have an explicit map command, or is map too low-level?
< 1391541980 262918 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sort of yes
< 1391541981 510128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is that second letter a ü or a ű?
< 1391541984 841784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they look pretty similar in this font
< 1391541988 312756 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ű I guess
< 1391541997 743148 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, ű (with double acute)
< 1391542008 794239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, is double acute what it's called?
< 1391542015 22764 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought of it as an acute umlaut
< 1391542016 74868 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :double acute accent
< 1391542025 124628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ő
< 1391542026 733776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an umlaut made of acutes
< 1391542031 163499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo...
< 1391542037 55725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess you don't write ȯ for the un-umlauted, un-acute version
< 1391542041 479356 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cute accent, hmm.
< 1391542043 77367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what did you do with HackEgo
< 1391542043 256958 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: riastradh believes beginners have to know
< 1391542067 91477 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I want to know
< 1391542067 271080 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: are you looking for an angry fix!
< 1391542073 197420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was Riastradh in here at some point?
< 1391542075 451611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, #scheme
< 1391542130 417283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@remember Riastradh Actually, there are a lot of 'factorization challenges' where you can win a lot more than 200,000 USD if  you manage to factor a 2048-bit RSA modulus, but you might have to watch out for the cops if you enter and win these challenges.
< 1391542130 773701 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1391542180 997466 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391542185 753698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf_
< 1391542198 404030 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host
< 1391542198 583913 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391542206 595024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1391542211 62857 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf NICK :shachaf
< 1391542220 974337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :higan
< 1391542238 380587 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fungot
< 1391542238 620947 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: or is there a way to make scheme code readable to people who are using scheme in your head
< 1391542242 249466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i'm looking for an angry fix!
< 1391542242 465507 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i would, but no cryptanalysis stuff. he does not know about them
< 1391542254 876877 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme? in *my* head? it's more likely than you think
< 1391542268 176581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: there is a crack in everything, that's how the scheme gets in
< 1391542268 512996 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but i mean for " touching"
< 1391542275 726176 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you generally don't let other people use scheme in your head ... at least not in public
< 1391542276 58440 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the pointer is the instruction layer featuring all the instructions like ". though britain is more humid than finland i guess. it's the sort of thing
< 1391542277 490612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: good touch or bad touch
< 1391542277 793741 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is it still not yet even a complete superset of the lambda symbol... who cares that an os should never need to touch asm to get anything across.
< 1391542341 545012 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@libdl.so QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe
< 1391542347 313291 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if my laundry is done so I can go to bed
< 1391542373 659245 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391542388 967263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot: are you HackEgo?
< 1391542399 146892 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome kmc
< 1391542450 390062 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i just opened a bag of Takis, and the act of pulling the bug open launched a tiny crumb of peppery deliciousness directly into my right eye.
< 1391542458 461223 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITH MY GLASSES ON
< 1391542500 27879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you HackEgo?
< 1391542500 207328 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how's life? :o
< 1391542509 868769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: :o
< 1391542510 85999 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think i've almost maybe got it.
< 1391542530 737405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: got what
< 1391542530 917082 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but they too were small, something like hash-tables consisting of variable-name/ value? i'm not sure it will!
< 1391542610 933780 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: usually only grapefruits being peeled can manage to snipe one's eyes. a piece of Takis must be painful too!
< 1391542659 860193 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION confuses boily with fungot
< 1391542660 77950 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: have a look when i get around 30 spam per day on the bike
< 1391542681 722573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i too confuse fungot 
< 1391542681 902276 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: last year, their servers were cracked.
< 1391542685 584703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: o no
< 1391542685 897192 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: like in the case of scheme48, every structure has its own scripting language and compiler)?? has type fnord, it messes up vim's highlight mode
< 1391542719 711617 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a Master Confungotter!
< 1391542720 120958 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: take the difference of whether or not it deserves to be read. this wouldn't be so surprised. few people ever use the ( cl-style), you have to browse deitti.net before i find myself in an annoying and stupidly offensive way too, so...
< 1391542796 434660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 uses fungot to confuse boily
< 1391542796 653917 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: we have one of each. :) it's so absurd it's hilarious. my favorite topping is pepperoni. interesting...
< 1391542809 249519 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cofungot
< 1391542809 429422 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: way to go if i were obfuscating it i wouldn't have, but it
< 1391542820 804371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: but it
< 1391542821 121389 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: let me see if i have a function that returns the source of a builtin function, not sure if i ever think something geeky is funny, because so many people
< 1391542877 918942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: so many people
< 1391542878 119142 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: and i don't know if that is what i was thinking it had something to do
< 1391543288 973475 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi NICK :atehwa
< 1391543391 315247 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391543480 769430 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1391544079 877463 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: got fun?
< 1391544080 93979 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i understand the problem now? can i use
< 1391544195 892336 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION selfconfuses himself
< 1391544264 794840 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses full heal
< 1391544311 858319 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION impersonates a spacial vortex and randomly blinks around
< 1391544386 425633 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't be healed as easily as you think you are healing, Mr. FireFly! muah ah ah ah ah!
< 1391544394 478836 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(said in a bad supervillain voice)
< 1391544404 42295 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh
< 1391544419 563944 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, btw, I surmised you're of the “Mr.” kind.
< 1391544437 652246 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is indeed the case
< 1391544725 207403 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391545470 820557 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe I have finally mastered Assembly https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19940612/Graphic8.COM
< 1391545502 282961 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: if I happen to want to potentially execute that on my machine, what should I do?
< 1391545552 103452 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :dosbox, mount, type the name? 
< 1391545590 818709 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's what I did, and I now understand the “gay squares”.
< 1391545595 139645 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either you can just open it directly (esc to quit) or use dosbox
< 1391545615 755479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just ron "dosbox graphic8.com" can't you
< 1391545618 748733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :run*
< 1391545625 122291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fongut
< 1391545625 301555 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: my answer: probably :p probably good for prototype. chicken will probably be using is ( fnord
< 1391545641 403553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Huh, that's convenient.
< 1391545641 938478 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, you can probably run that
< 1391545683 149251 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably ran that.
< 1391545705 160587 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i run an arbitrary .com file with dosbox can it do things to my computer outside the dosbox
< 1391545744 579799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i spent a little while looking for such exploits, but didn't find any
< 1391545757 711367 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think dosbox is really focusing on sandbox security, however.
< 1391545762 753402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is easy to segfault dosbox with an invalid x86 instruction but it's just a NULL dereference
< 1391545784 768248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: How about a TSR that manages to fake in some commands to the dosbox shell, which has mount &c.? 
< 1391545795 721980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can run mount /some/directory somedrive: in dosbox, can't you
< 1391545800 222882 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can a .com program not do that
< 1391545808 203691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could work; I don't know if mount is restricted
< 1391545813 764515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it could probably insert the keystrokes for that into the keyboard buffer
< 1391545818 176243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not restricted when you type it in, at least.
< 1391546199 183173 :evalj!~jeval@4E5C4F20.dsl.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1391546306 722466 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly, the "mount" is not a shell builtin, but a separate MOUNT.COM on the virtual Z: drive.
< 1391546313 394493 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can copy it elsewhere, and run, and it still works.
< 1391546338 970644 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The contents are the 20 bytes ndisasm'd at http://sprunge.us/aiAF)
< 1391546379 867395 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So presumably you might not even need to play tricks with the input buffer, just use the same int 21h interfaces.
< 1391546485 331186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(All the other commands in Z: are also 20-byte files that only differ in their last bytes.)
< 1391546604 459975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record, int 21h/AH=4Ah is supposed to be "DOS 2+ - RESIZE MEMORY BLOCK" -- resize the block pointed to by ES to have a new size of BX paragraphs.
< 1391546660 245472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you look that up in RBIL
< 1391546671 515461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, of course.
< 1391546704 53112 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1391546723 269320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray for RBIL
< 1391546772 665062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually learned that DOS has malloc/free/realloc as interrupts from a paper book
< 1391546893 241435 :impomatic!~chatzilla@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a copy of Ralf Brown's Interrupt List as a paper book!
< 1391547238 983360 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn MS DOS is way too fast for an animation!
< 1391547240 978824 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the really funny thing is that the files on Z: are almost the same; they only differ in their last byte, as far as I can see.
< 1391547253 891374 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I try to move a square to simulate MOVEMENT I see three at once!
< 1391547255 812165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e:   (All the other commands in Z: are also 20-byte files that only differ in their last bytes.)
< 1391547261 876031 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should use the timer instead
< 1391547264 901579 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: move it more slowly then
< 1391547273 153381 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how!
< 1391547277 801522 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sorry.
< 1391547279 74566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the timer in DOS runs at 19.2Hz
< 1391547282 734260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is normally too slow to be useful
< 1391547285 798698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Turns out the int 21h/AH=4Ah bits are just regular code, and it's the invalid opcode FE /8 that does something DOSBox-specific.
< 1391547287 657937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I think you can customize it to be faster
< 1391547297 594875 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: exactly
< 1391547304 891470 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but I need the screen to refresh at like
< 1391547309 78269 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 per second or something
< 1391547311 543468 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(FE /0 is INC r/m8, and FE /1 is DEC r/m8, but the other reg digits of FE are not used.)
< 1391547314 805631 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should be enough no?
< 1391547335 304347 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, I guess that's 24 hertz
< 1391547335 484110 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm
< 1391547346 472586 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can wait for a couple of vsyncs
< 1391547366 52158 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: though you probably want FE /7
< 1391547373 967495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, a typo/thinko. I think there's actually just two pointers following the FE /7.
< 1391547386 49436 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's wait for 16 vsyncs
< 1391547487 303480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the code's right there in misc/programs.cpp: http://sprunge.us/SCHM
< 1391547576 536267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the final byte is an index into a table.
< 1391547638 688408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/iWHa love that "//MEM LEAK" comment.
< 1391547896 623807 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently two vsyncs are enough
< 1391547998 754337 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notwithstanding the funky callback mechanism, it still seems possible for a program to programmatically call the mount-program callback, by setting up the memory properly.
< 1391548206 809156 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 320x200 mode, vsyncs should have a frequency of 70 Hz.
< 1391548218 779340 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you notwithstand funkies?
< 1391548218 959558 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: great. should i care about" level.
< 1391548624 77796 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e : So 2 in a row is about 30 images per second
< 1391548626 551908 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is fine
< 1391548640 745406 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1391548866 166718 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm
< 1391548930 851083 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once I do two vsyncs, I have less problems with the screen clearing
< 1391548937 899183 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the upper part of the screen still flickers
< 1391548985 335440 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first 30 pixel rows or so
< 1391549004 65746 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a while to clear the screen and draw the squares
< 1391549066 552553 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but the squares stay on the screen for a while as well
< 1391549080 530222 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm
< 1391549084 655574 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what to do
< 1391549105 484238 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could do a function that removes the shapes instead 
< 1391549196 360002 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose I can do something much faster to clear the screen than rep stosd
< 1391549355 175871 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tough. draw to a memory buffer; copy that over. or learn to use VGA's "unchained mode". then there's 4 pages worth of graphics memory, but you need some IO to actually access it (it interleaves 4 planes of memory). I never really did that.
< 1391549469 933022 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_X links to http://www.gameprogrammer.com/3-tweak.html which looks useful
< 1391549501 376850 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the best solution is to implement a function that deletes the shapes and move them before reprinting them
< 1391549529 212309 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: honestly I'd probably do the render to screen buffer, then blit thing.
< 1391549539 873015 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err. to memory buffer
< 1391549563 104683 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blit?
< 1391549566 118910 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :copy
< 1391549594 462587 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"block image transfer"
< 1391549758 679251 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: FISHY CHICKEN
< 1391549760 558804 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1391550316 316705 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soon, I will be able to do a pong!
< 1391550316 900399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also see http://www.brackeen.com/vga/unchain.html for a simplish overview, I think I have used that page.
< 1391550338 720702 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks
< 1391550408 773519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has both basic double buffering (draw to in-memory buffer and memcpy -- in your case, perhaps rep stosd -- to video memory) and proper page flipping which needs the masked-write stuff.
< 1391550511 317307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, mov, not sto.
< 1391551439 11465 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you can do is chained mode 256x256 with 256 colours
< 1391551448 433991 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is convienient for some stuff
< 1391551501 630972 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :256x256 would be great
< 1391551521 748224 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of doing sums and substractions I can just check for overflows
< 1391551723 238309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391551839 747945 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, this seems fun
< 1391551854 411531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the trøndelag region has had more wildfires so far this year as _all_ of last year.  and about half of them last week.
< 1391551864 454504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*than
< 1391551866 334630 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch
< 1391551906 356149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Norway has wildfires in February?
< 1391551914 162443 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem like an obvious month for them
< 1391551918 723807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and january
< 1391551933 303549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's very unprecedented.
< 1391551987 483369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically no precipitation since jan 11
< 1391552001 576912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and plenty of strong wind.
< 1391552005 291280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's less than usual in the UK, too, in that it hasn't been /constantly/ raining
< 1391552015 36128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there was a thunderhailstorm at one point
< 1391552023 117376 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is rare in January, those normally happen in the summer
< 1391552055 635765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall also in the newspaper some firefighter saying they hadn't experienced such a bad month before at _any_ time of year.
< 1391552140 910253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's start a conspiracy that putin made this to get good weather in russia for the olympics.
< 1391552156 172032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile california is in the middles of our worst ever drought
< 1391552182 915602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh i thought the us was buried in snow.  i guess not all of it.
< 1391552187 894283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed
< 1391552277 205930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand much of europe is having bad weather of various kinds
< 1391552306 164210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least strange
< 1391552344 4984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: all of the northern hemisphere is, I think
< 1391552358 421142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the polar vortex that's meant to be over the arctic went and visited the US instead
< 1391552391 177473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well that's the us, but does that explain the high pressure zone over russia too?
< 1391552407 124342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly
< 1391552418 216652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not that knowledgeable about how weather works
< 1391552424 893858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but then, neither is anyone else)
< 1391552450 158370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand they can connect the polar vortex moving to global warming, although not in a way that convinces republicans.
< 1391552483 294828 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it"
< 1391552531 210457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that a quote
< 1391552536 939355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1391552540 475745 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence the marks of quotation
< 1391552547 682531 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this is not a quote"
< 1391552554 457766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ceci n'est etc
< 1391552572 879085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what we need to do is convince them that it will kill their children.
< 1391552616 661036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck
< 1391552640 764113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's the only thing americans are more furious about than money, isn't it
< 1391552695 898505 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the cause
< 1391552727 894346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's school shootings then there's nothing we can do, the government has no place in regulating devices whose literal only purpose is to kill large numbers of people quickly
< 1391552852 171240 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sense sarcasm
< 1391552918 604654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sarcasm and insanity are the two only ways for americans to (temporarily) survive
< 1391553039 856577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: so how's the weather in poland
< 1391553130 246100 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not in Poland, I was just born there
< 1391553136 205259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1391553138 670952 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in England, and the weather sucks. Lots of flooding
< 1391553165 310632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE BEEN DECEIVED
< 1391553296 569996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :here it's nice, warm (night temperature record yesterday) and dry.  got a match?
< 1391553569 538362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: can you ship some of your water over to california
< 1391553635 181984 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Don't have the means of doing that, sorry
< 1391553638 452866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also here
< 1391553703 794173 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd happily swap water for snow
< 1391553715 596036 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I guess others wouldn't appreciate it as much
< 1391553860 420334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oh, that's just the same. <-- 5 is the most recent version.
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< 1391554886 575123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : can this be TC, I wonder? <-- it seems to me that this is a bag of tokens where you cannot reliably detect that a token is not present unless the bag is completely empty.
< 1391554946 775794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yep
< 1391554970 245377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with only finitely many tokens
< 1391554978 651442 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you could do something based on probabilities, though
< 1391554996 869019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there would be a chance of failure
< 1391555033 271355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, you have just too little to implement fractran
< 1391555039 925334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or Bag)
< 1391555040 104936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but you can just reset the program if you detect a failure
< 1391555057 767320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd work fine if you could detect failure reliably
< 1391555071 759153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it can be detected...
< 1391555113 790635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, say you use a representation where you have X copies of element A, Y copies of element B, min(X,Y) copies of element C
< 1391555137 783255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm
< 1391555141 384405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can compare X to Y by repeatedly removing items in the order C, A, B, C, A, B…
< 1391555148 289168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and restarting the entire program if they come out in the wrong order
< 1391555154 578012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's unclear how you'd set that situation up to start with, though
< 1391555157 129651 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo
< 1391555165 555551 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a rectangle that moves if you press up or down
< 1391555174 503283 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE FUTURE OF VIDEO GAME IS NIGH GUYS
< 1391555179 954898 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM WORKING ON THIS AMAZING IDEA
< 1391555188 363989 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TABLE TENNIS ON A COMPUTER
< 1391555197 447489 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll see it will be huge
< 1391555213 215673 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call it electric entertainment
< 1391555221 635932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: I'm not sure it'll work, computers aren't particularly flat, making it unfair, and there might not be enough space to get a decent serve either
< 1391555227 317024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok maybe you can do something that works like a nondeterministic turing machine, in that _if_ it halts without detecting a failure it will have calculated the right result.
< 1391555227 615383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although attaching the net shouldn't be too difficult
< 1391555241 667581 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll see ais523
< 1391555247 287873 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right, that's the computational class I was aiming for anyway
< 1391555247 505879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it might not be able to restart a computation.
< 1391555252 567806 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will be even bigger than Ball in a Cup
< 1391555257 238575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a failure is detected.
< 1391555264 464234 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx4IEmZNegg
< 1391555354 306356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just keep extracting tokens until there aren't any more
< 1391555361 607859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then jump back to the start of the program
< 1391555364 851298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :restarting is trivial
< 1391555375 360342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1391555407 435692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok as long as input is encoded in the program, which is enough for tc of course
< 1391555426 558763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1391556136 222729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's not obviously TC
< 1391556142 899593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not obviously sub-TC
< 1391556149 695708 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is always a property I like in esolangs
< 1391556264 671604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now all we need is an interesting FSM to hook it up to
< 1391556274 357014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :preferably a pretty powerful one
< 1391556282 705981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we have a new interesting esolang
< 1391556778 210855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, there's a neat equivalent way to write this that's more efficient
< 1391556796 418178 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of removing entirely at random
< 1391556807 269012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :commands can give a set of values they want to remove
< 1391556821 93992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if any are in the random bag, one is removed at random, otherwise the program enters an infinite loop
< 1391557059 768093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall there is a theorem that is relevant to this, if i can find it again.
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< 1391557711 475597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so you are accepting that a program might loop infinitely instead of ever halting even if it could?
< 1391557722 742803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, but with zero probability
< 1391557732 55492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1391557741 242067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I normally only care about positive probabilities when it comes to nondeterministic languages
< 1391558003 623173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cannot remember what it's called
< 1391558178 906971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i think it may be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickson%27s_lemma
< 1391558198 393424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's not what i remember, but it may be the relevant special case)
< 1391558265 653888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me of subturing oracles
< 1391558289 56513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, subturing language + oracle that might bring it up to some higher computational class
< 1391558357 567943 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't Fancy L be called a subturing oracle
< 1391558432 413316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw the relevance of this lemma if i'm thinking correctly is that any unbounded computation in your language _must_ eventually return to the same program point but with a >= bag than the previous time
< 1391558474 89596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means you can sort of solve the halting problem.
< 1391558490 755147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for it.
< 1391558515 528849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although this doesn't take into account that probabilities may be zero.
< 1391558535 244180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think having a >= bag than last time means you're in the same program tate
< 1391558564 664164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you must be in the same point _and_ have a >= bag
< 1391558586 513351 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same IP too
< 1391558614 487254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well the thing is, if you return with a >= bag then it is theoretically _possible_ for you to loop infinitely.
< 1391558635 747388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, yes, it is
< 1391558639 604107 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, does
< 1391558708 536015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can repeat the same cycle again and get an even larger bag, etc.
< 1391558738 419544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1391558763 372766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly, it's impossible to reliably distinguish any bag from a bag that's <= it
< 1391558814 560351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1391558834 954945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd have to resort to some sort of probabilistic algorithm
< 1391559038 775516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not entirely sure when i previously looked at this lemma but it may have been in connection with proving that fractran cannot be tc with unordered rules.  although i vaguely think that has a simpler proof.
< 1391559127 890211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fractran with unordered rules feels slightly analogous to your language somehow.
< 1391559179 443972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well unordered fractran can definitely be simulated by this language
< 1391559204 937518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let X be the largest number of primes consumed by a rule
< 1391559210 960577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :start with X primes that don't appear in any rule
< 1391559223 298462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeatedly, take out X items, if they match the numerator of a rule replace them with the denominator
< 1391559227 864053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they don't, put them back and try again
< 1391559300 765830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1391559374 822620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we simulate in the other direction?
< 1391559416 364347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm...
< 1391559446 647057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps we can, we can make a prime for each program position to flag it
< 1391559582 569377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i think you can easily do any state machine that goes to a new state based on tokens removed from bag, and adds other tokens
< 1391559671 469077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the probabilities may be slightly different, since you will be checking for a particular (set of) token(s) to remove with a rule
< 1391559690 998196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm
< 1391559726 772699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that's a problem.
< 1391559785 717265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have a prime for each instruction pointer position
< 1391559791 911526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an entirely separate set of fraction for each
< 1391559793 361501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it works
< 1391559818 975918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :q.essentially.d
< 1391559879 618826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually surpried
< 1391559881 533513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*surprised
< 1391559891 475897 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to assume everything that isn't completely obviously sub-TC is TC
< 1391559933 257450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm not sure we've proved unordered fractran is "probabilistically" non-tc
< 1391559965 306520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that you cannot force halting.
< 1391559984 166910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it wouldn't be too surprising if it's non-tc altogether.
< 1391560060 696758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the mutual simulations do _not_ preserve probabilities well - in unordered fractran, you choose rules uniformly, while in your language you choose bag tokens uniformly.
< 1391560084 232651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't see a way to compensate for that.
< 1391560167 923276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you had a bag with 1 of each token except for one of which you had a million, there would be a great bias.
< 1391560182 953516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right
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< 1391561087 954304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : int-e: that bf-dowhile language we were talking about, ais523 calls it "DoFuck", says he also thinks it's turing-complete, and says "it's such an obvious idea it's probably been invented more than twice"
< 1391561108 731209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it keeps getting reinvented by people making broken bf implementations >:)
< 1391561139 631451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's why I invented it in the first place :-)
< 1391561143 296016 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :brain_fuck.vb
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< 1391561565 306082 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13HackEgo: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.)
< 1391561588 10960 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huzzah
< 1391561619 129989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run allquotes | tail -1
< 1391561619 749660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1165)  15:21 .. 15:41   I've got to stop using the IRC input line for short-term notes.   fizzie: I tend to just send them to the channel   that way if I need them in the future, I can find them in the log
< 1391561629 999207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it's there
< 1391561660 983742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but _not_ in the repository browser
< 1391561685 921154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i'm wondering is how dylan got in his command
< 1391561702 503569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1391561703 146834 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :98076 \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ :-D \ dog \ etc \ factor \ fb \ fb.c \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ Test.hi \ Test.hs \ Test.o \ this \ UNPA \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf
< 1391561716 443306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat :-D
< 1391561716 962827 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :☺
< 1391561735 86160 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's dylan
< 1391561749 652522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: top of http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
< 1391561778 47705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor`: the repository browser is out of synch with HackEgo, both ways
< 1391561878 851281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you cannot click the link to :-D in the diff page
< 1391561988 767327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file this
< 1391561989 301743 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this: empty
< 1391561993 343802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm this
< 1391561995 7128 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391562524 102207 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l :-D
< 1391562524 666334 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information.
< 1391562528 978231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l :-D
< 1391562529 575629 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 4 Jan 30 18:39 :-D
< 1391562534 386992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch :-D
< 1391562535 473280 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391562537 23202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l :-D
< 1391562537 633106 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 4 Jan 30 18:39 :-D
< 1391562561 794751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I assume time doesn't flow in HackEgo
< 1391563010 145506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't think the repository in the browser is the same as the one HackEgo is currently using, which is why i'm wondering how dylan managed to get a command into it.
< 1391563024 194956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a command which HackEgo hasn't respected)
< 1391563042 949433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1391563043 548230 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :98076 \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ :-D \ dog \ etc \ factor \ fb \ fb.c \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ Test.hi \ Test.hs \ Test.o \ UNPA \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf
< 1391563137 627588 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dylan is within us all
< 1391563139 63345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps Gregor` accidentally brought up the old version or something.
< 1391563148 641375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1391563152 427088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: blowing in the wind?
< 1391563526 20975 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1391564061 894536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was evidence in this room of excessive consumption of almost every type of fungot known to civilized man since 1544 AD
< 1391564062 74663 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: actually in my view anyway), not ( 1 2)
< 1391564196 32674 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many types is taht (i'm not civilized)
< 1391564304 386871 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot
< 1391564481 256735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so other than lambda:, python has "with ... as ..." and "for ... in ..." which could more or less be replaced with a reasonable lambda thing
< 1391564541 704927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i occasionally use the fact that the iteration variable of a for loop is set after the loop exits
< 1391564546 779255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i feel gross when i do
< 1391564875 516361 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really hate it when I do, because I always declare the iteration variable in the for loop.
< 1391565867 222179 :Gregor`!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The repository browser isn't just out of sync, it's referring to a whole other instance of HackEgo.
< 1391565884 62746 :Gregor`!dlopen@libdl.so NICK :Gregor
< 1391565897 318740 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have time to fix all the loose ends right now.
< 1391565912 866958 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was remiss to change HackEgo to a new server when I had a hugely busy week coming up ^^´
< 1391566380 741703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ok as i expected, i was just surprised that there's still someone using the old instance
< 1391566430 860967 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1391566486 240305 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Gregor 
< 1391566499 456876 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for bringing back the hackster
< 1391566526 520588 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391566885 803018 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1391567036 735238 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391567241 850940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1391568753 866837 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391569173 916225 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1391569898 794253 :Lauralie!~IceChat9@91.189.69.251 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391570032 355547 :Lauralie!~IceChat9@91.189.69.251 NICK :OverThere
< 1391570088 650279 :OverThere!~IceChat9@91.189.69.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone alive out there?
< 1391570185 124012 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs a hit of P3P
< 1391570212 863926 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is nothing good in the world that matches the regex ^P.P$
< 1391570215 901765 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome OverThere 
< 1391570216 791166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13OverThere: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.)
< 1391570250 776849 :OverThere!~IceChat9@91.189.69.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, wrong sort of esoteric for me then
< 1391570263 174938 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :such is life
< 1391570266 88187 :OverThere!~IceChat9@91.189.69.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aye
< 1391570271 327993 :OverThere!~IceChat9@91.189.69.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. 
< 1391570275 425429 :OverThere!~IceChat9@91.189.69.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off i go
< 1391570294 660127 :OverThere!~IceChat9@91.189.69.251 PART :#esoteric
< 1391571436 624064 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391571847 314807 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 QUIT :Quit: quit
< 1391573714 689522 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem!
< 1391573827 859912 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: nothing wrong with PCP
< 1391574785 259489 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading And Another Thing
< 1391574794 967495 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep noticing when the writing sounds nothing like DNA
< 1391575027 521147 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still some funny parts
< 1391575044 236492 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ah, you see. I /stole/ it. Therefore it's not mine. You're winning my argument for me."
< 1391576316 225794 :password2!~password@197.78.128.4 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391576752 559866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what about the Post Correspondence Problem
< 1391576802 601813 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1391576834 199512 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391576858 634763 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hadn't heard of it until now
< 1391577086 228000 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1391579211 238871 :password2!~password@197.78.128.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1391579455 201489 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was what i meant as well)
< 1391579478 911636 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also we just talked about pcp here like i dunno some weeks ago
< 1391579502 689854 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for like 3 messages, maybe even more
< 1391579538 636318 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are so busted for not reading every line of the logs ever
< 1391579844 209906 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1391580978 285809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you should prove it's undecidable
< 1391581023 708696 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :time of your life
< 1391581062 855133 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"secure_compare leaks the password always. Note that it takes different time to create a result of ord() depending whether it's <=100 or > 100 due to caching of small numbers."   YESSSSSSSSS PYYYYYYYYYTHONNNNNNN
< 1391581070 49013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cross posting this to every irc channel i'm in
< 1391581084 696162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though I thought the cutoff was 256, not 100)
< 1391581142 678198 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, that's a compare function that's supposed to take equal time regardless of the actual password, but fails to? Nice.
< 1391581151 920258 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391581189 32997 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1391581200 454915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to do that in a high level language
< 1391581205 930460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to do it and really be sure of it in C, even
< 1391581242 571641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the suggestion I saw today is that when comparing sensitive strings you should HMAC them both first https://www.isecpartners.com/blog/2011/february/double-hmac-verification.aspx
< 1391581878 759411 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language with space and time constraints in the types?
< 1391581894 301478 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going where Haskell dare not tread
< 1391581894 572167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sort of thing would be good yeah
< 1391581916 599048 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: afaik it was -5 thru 100, but it may have been chnaged
< 1391581917 844000 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changed*
< 1391581949 604961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'print (255+1 is 256, 256+1 is 257)'
< 1391581950 608800 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(True, False)
< 1391581970 614837 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's now -5 thru 256
< 1391581980 403312 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good range
< 1391581989 436045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR it went up to 256 even a few years back
< 1391581998 7549 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does that mean the timing attack is fixed?
< 1391581998 785916 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it has been changed between 2.4 and 2.5
< 1391582007 82991 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes, it does fix the timing attack
< 1391582029 964312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yeah a DSL for constant-time programming would be good
< 1391582046 950084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forbid control flow or memory access that depends on sensitive inputs
< 1391582073 286939 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So tempting to think Racket when I think of DSL, especially now that I'm a Racket kick, but... somehow I think that wouldn't be appropriate here
< 1391582073 469453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately it's very hard to be sure that things are really constant time
< 1391582088 898305 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cperciva tells me he had a dim recollection of some MIPS CPUs which predicted the carry flag to be clear and would have to stall the pipeline in order to re-execute if not"
< 1391582105 768076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely MUL and DIV are often not constant time
< 1391582114 767025 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specialized CPU?
< 1391582128 249551 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like this might be a case of CPUs optimizing when we don't necessarily want them to
< 1391582166 880887 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want mul to optimized, thank you very much! you weirdos with your special cases
< 1391582213 912901 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SLOW IMUL ecx
< 1391582219 194548 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SLOW prefix for the win
< 1391582283 301856 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is taht a real prefix, it's not on osdev
< 1391582312 299912 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1391582326 762580 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an ebook of osdev stuff?
< 1391582365 895280 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm disappointed in you, lifthrasiir 
< 1391582433 261518 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ;)
< 1391582439 959732 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i make a processor where all instructions take a pseudorandom number of cycles at least as great as the cost of the slowest instruction (doing some bullshit to mask power usage). imo secure
< 1391582442 29685 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
< 1391582458 301615 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could do a cpuid every other instruction to serialize stuff
< 1391582467 528184 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it clobbers most of the registers though
< 1391582502 677942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a complete list of Magic: The Gathering cards that i can grep through
< 1391582506 413219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even just the card names
< 1391582525 905209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even just a reasonable list
< 1391582564 963933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are other instructions for serializing
< 1391582566 363941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't there
< 1391582584 594780 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, I don't remember what they are though
< 1391582594 110752 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's http://magiccards.info/
< 1391582595 905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are memory barriers, but they might not inhibit out of order execution
< 1391582696 220918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually care about the cards, just the card names
< 1391582718 961903 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you ca n look up lists within each set, at least.
< 1391582744 359174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't there a zillion sets
< 1391582753 891934 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :couple dozen, looks like.
< 1391582786 126080 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&output=textspoiler,textspoiler&name=+![jsjdfhasgkdsfahgahdf]
< 1391582806 164062 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as jsjdfhasgkdsfahgahdf never becomes a real card
< 1391582828 577593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1391582838 93026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't see the option to search for "not"
< 1391582965 858511 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh by the way shachaf, you ever read pirx the pilot
< 1391582989 842855 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1391583007 215159 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :k
< 1391583016 847574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why
< 1391583038 982961 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Stanisław Lem
< 1391583045 423874 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall you reading the cyberiad or suchlike
< 1391583054 68460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, should i read it
< 1391583058 709781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read only a bit of the cyberiad :'(
< 1391583059 866699 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mos def
< 1391583099 326202 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pirx the pilot reminded me of computer programming, in that everything goes wrong incomprehensibly
< 1391583433 710904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey do you know about the simplex category
< 1391583445 705790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should answer my questions
< 1391583546 654837 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know hsit-all about nothing
< 1391583689 475925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well do you know that each number in pascal's triangle tells you the number of paths you can take from the top to reach that number
< 1391583699 195905 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably
< 1391583715 383968 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ther ea generalization comeing on
< 1391583725 827929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's p. obvious from the usual definition but imo it's good
< 1391583733 789269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe, that part is your job hth
< 1391583747 92802 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PART #esoteric :"gonna read about killing chickens"
< 1391583764 950842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(
< 1391585201 252623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391587251 80894 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1391588625 890199 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure this is any sort of generalization, but if you take the matrix M = (1 1 \\ 1 0), say, and start taking its powers, then you will start seeing fibonacci numbers. another way to see this is that you have a graph with two nodes and adjacency matrix M, and (M^n)_(a,b) gives you the number of paths of length n from node a to node b, and in this case you're basically counting binary words where 11 is forbidden. investigating the interplay betw
< 1391588626 70673 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :een the growth of the matrix entries and the actual sets of paths (in particular, bi-infinite ones) is one of the things symbolic dynamics studies.
< 1391588743 944173 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1391589092 878773 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, hackego
< 1391589113 54279 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is back. what you say to that, fungot?
< 1391589200 327752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot says "netsplit"
< 1391589217 939422 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :netsplit says "fungot"
< 1391590623 147085 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391590686 215808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1391591094 104659 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :
< 1391591976 378970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just the word "conundrum" in a set of exercises for students, because of alliteration.
< 1391592121 2635 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: used that word unquoted or quoted?
< 1391592162 709747 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooops, fizzie accidentally the conundrum
< 1391592428 271133 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unquoted. Well, the sentence itself is quoted. It's in the sometimes-whimsical (except I haven't come up with anything whimsical so far) "title" (of sorts) of a question.
< 1391592438 615020 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I called it the "Conditional contradiction conundrum".
< 1391592562 342344 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I see
< 1391593325 512684 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391593472 531561 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391596529 75362 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikiplia has a built-in integer type, add and subtract and eq operations, but no built-in less-than comparison, so you have to simulate comparision by subtracting, stringifying the number (there's a built-in op for that), taking the first character of the string, and comparing it to '-'? 
< 1391596540 986935 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\?/\./
< 1391596758 142293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391597210 21126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : you are so busted for not reading every line of the logs ever <-- shocking
< 1391597232 328277 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vote for kicke banne
< 1391597284 992528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :vote for new danish prime minister kicke banne
< 1391600488 408527 :itsy!~digital_w@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1391600842 151985 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391601234 973242 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Quit: Tritonio
< 1391601556 88330 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391602305 734757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ut-oh. My ~/writing/ (where I keep all "serious" stuff) on the previous department's system seems to be completely empty, as opposed to containing four years' worth of work.
< 1391602346 908654 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also modification-timestamped 2013-12-13, and the automatic snapshots on the NFS thing only reach three weeks back.
< 1391602662 827237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yer bot is not here hth
< 1391603163 837720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, *ouch*
< 1391603200 189288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my theory that we are in the end times keeps amassing evidence.
< 1391603288 172914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it took about five minutes for the admins to restore the files from "a previous home directory server" they had around, and anyway they've got quite a comprehensive set of weekly tape backups; it's just time- and labor-intensive to get at the latter.
< 1391603301 434645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now let's see about that bot.
< 1391603360 384547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to randomize a freenode server that works, it seems.
< 1391603404 384113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy
< 1391603414 892015 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391603419 840170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: End times: cancelled? 
< 1391603420 148756 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'm a member of the esolang in him and it criticized
< 1391603430 151153 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds ominous.
< 1391603436 699055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :postponed for a week, maybe.
< 1391603866 323749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: My thesis draft file is 112 pages, but I haven't actually written anything for it yet. (I just took all the publications I've been involved in -- 70 pages, apparently -- and dumped them in our template file, which adds 42 further pages of lipsum text and miscellaneous overhead.)
< 1391603927 985880 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Should start putting the thing together one of these days, given that my doctoral-student funding dried up when the year changed.)
< 1391603948 969499 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Silly people and their "must graduate in four years" pretensions.)
< 1391604099 657813 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine contains no liirum laarum, but half of it is still copypaste from articles
< 1391604127 709460 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only took like 1/3 of our publications
< 1391604130 757306 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or less
< 1391604141 532441 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@93.114.44.88 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391604165 954317 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my coauthor is taking another 1/3 and the rest will be donated to charity
< 1391604192 841084 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: is liirum laarum a Finnish version of lorem ipsum?
< 1391604200 156308 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of
< 1391604208 241151 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you can donate publications to charity?
< 1391604216 25892 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a funny term for "nonsense"
< 1391604245 767850 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there's an english one i can't think of, but the finnish one was reasonably close to lorem ipsum so i went for it.
< 1391604296 470135 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure whether you can donate them, i shall contact unicef
< 1391604336 70750 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you put lorem ipsum text in your dissertation? wow
< 1391604342 614350 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It was in the template.
< 1391604347 998109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :\usepackage{lipsum} and all.
< 1391604348 622671 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it remain there in the final versoin?
< 1391604352 237978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not.
< 1391604376 277957 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually my coauthor is probably taking less than 1/3, since we/he will surely have 100 pages more next year when he writes it)
< 1391604390 206777 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I have to write a thesis too, and reusing a lorem ipsum generator would be an easy way to pad it
< 1391604400 216897 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of thesis
< 1391604410 164958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you should keep a section of it to keep the reviewers on their toes hth
< 1391604416 946832 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a simple splice articles together thesis probably
< 1391604450 419641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :me and my coauthor both included our common articles in the theses...
< 1391604507 426887 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, that's normla
< 1391604509 738325 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I'm not sure if all the publications are going to be included, I just put them all in for now. Anyway, the convention here is that we'd both just claim some percentage of the article, and write something vague in the "Author's Contribution" section.
< 1391604512 470386 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are all co-written articles
< 1391604542 53311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait you didn't say they were disjoint 1/3rds
< 1391604633 745327 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are disjoint thirds
< 1391604641 756112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :o
< 1391604705 398212 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me like a month to come up with a natural way to include more than 3 of our articles in a coherent thesis
< 1391604715 233735 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm not sure i succeeded, but anyway
< 1391604736 409274 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no two are on the same topic, basically
< 1391604741 55293 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah, I know that feelign
< 1391604778 649781 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :except of course all of them are about CA and subshifts which is a pretty small topic :D but to me they feel like very different topic.
< 1391604780 110801 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*topics
< 1391604886 373920 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: what's your topic?
< 1391604895 320049 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, roughly
< 1391604954 502955 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :graph coloring
< 1391604993 723458 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo
< 1391605015 270336 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you may give details!
< 1391605031 586858 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically we invent graph invariants that are crazy enough that nobody have tried to prove anything about them yet, then prove anything we can about them, and try to phrase it in a way that the statements sound interesting and nontrivial
< 1391605109 298313 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no offense but that sounds awesome no matter how much you try to downplay it
< 1391605111 592356 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i see????
< 1391605125 658619 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one statement is about a graph invariant that is lessequal to the fractional chromatic number and 1/e times the fractional chromatic number
< 1391605130 779123 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :here => http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/sc/publ.html
< 1391605173 386354 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does CA stand for?
< 1391605194 225510 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cellular automata
< 1391605221 143228 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. (that was ambiguous)
< 1391605223 709697 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1391605240 181637 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my goal in life is to make cellular automata a respected field of mathematics
< 1391605267 693029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And world peace while you're at it? 
< 1391605277 812395 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i think wolfram did that in ankos
< 1391605284 298907 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way. world domination, that's more like it
< 1391605301 99151 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :world peace is on page 787
< 1391605489 331388 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, promise world peace in the abstract, then if you get by page 787 it turns out you can get world peace in some special case in a very simplified model provided the generalized riemann hypothesis, and it's not known to be constructible in polynomial time.
< 1391605611 684863 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's world peace only within a huge constant factor only.
< 1391605615 444103 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what do you think of bondage and domination?
< 1391605640 710334 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(any non-graph theoretical connotations are accidental)
< 1391605813 471570 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? what is bondage in this context? I don't really know much about any area of maths really.
< 1391605851 775274 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does a web search
< 1391605914 430355 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bondage number" ... "Restrained bondage number of a graph" ...
< 1391605928 681153 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well bondage numbers and domination numbers are graph invariants, but perhaps only if you spend too much time reading arxiv
< 1391605951 894928 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The authors must have the same giddy feeling as M. Spivak about "The Joy of TeX".
< 1391606045 410941 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Liars. "This site uses cookies to improve performance."
< 1391606083 871196 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another great book title. "Topics on Domination"
< 1391606109 198726 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :on -> in.
< 1391606110 701307 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00222-003-0335-2
< 1391606116 962329 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sex entropy
< 1391606169 150632 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm maybe it's not called sex entropy there
< 1391606171 639255 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :just h_{sex}
< 1391606178 582769 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's called sex entropy in his talks
< 1391606208 373255 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't know who came up with the term but anyway)
< 1391606234 791755 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :on crazy terms mathematicians use, see this anecdote => http://mathoverflow.net/questions/53122/mathematical-urban-legends/53738#53738
< 1391606272 978072 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :without looking, exploding points on a plane?
< 1391606282 415260 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1391606287 378974 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait
< 1391606288 499239 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :blowing up.
< 1391606289 893772 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :blowing up 
< 1391606292 627209 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that
< 1391606300 383454 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :exploding is what sml does
< 1391606312 555885 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it converts an array to a list
< 1391606320 836344 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The "blowing up" line was typed after I had a look.)
< 1391606442 974389 :impomatic!~chatzilla@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310]
< 1391606488 928370 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1391606573 892410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391606585 667038 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391606592 848270 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good sticky morning!
< 1391606598 623756 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist
< 1391606599 200293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily
< 1391606791 134526 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good think the HackEgo was resurrected before the next `olist
< 1391606891 630200 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :essential services were restored just in time!
< 1391607258 620302 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391607901 643538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wait you forgot the number
< 1391607929 959560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(943)
< 1391608086 417629 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops >_>'...
< 1391608638 479456 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it should complain if there's a missing argument?
< 1391608650 308718 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain
< 1391608650 928941 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you.
< 1391608673 298697 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how you complain at it, not how it complains at you
< 1391608676 697244 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/complain
< 1391608677 237527 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "$@" >> complaints; echo Complaint filed. Thank you.
< 1391608683 808130 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, hmm
< 1391608689 527537 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you just filed a null complaint
< 1391608704 356021 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` shuf -n1 complaints
< 1391608704 932048 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391608723 325138 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/6c8a8b8f754f/complaints
< 1391608729 965803 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` shuf -n1 complaints
< 1391608730 538293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391608744 229434 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever.
< 1391608751 194637 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complaints
< 1391608751 782257 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 complaints
< 1391608765 803229 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -la complaints
< 1391608766 457291 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 5000 9 Sep 25 13:06 complaints -> /dev/null
< 1391608814 892181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very efficient.
< 1391608837 823830 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's backup day today so I'm pissed off. Being the BOFH, however, does have it's advantages. I reassign null to be the tape device - it's so much more economical on my time as I don't have to keep getting up to change tapes every 5 minutes. And it speeds up backups too, so it can't be all bad can it? Of course not."
< 1391608852 902402 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391608896 233166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helooooooOOOdl
< 1391608968 750288 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnocchanoodlegoo?!
< 1391609177 45548 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :noodle goo?
< 1391609200 442300 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnocchi channel nooodl gobbledygook?
< 1391609325 680067 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started out with "cockadoodledoo".
< 1391609333 367382 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since apparently it's morning somewhere.
< 1391609351 259709 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 15:08 here but i also just got up. the flu is something
< 1391609383 974541 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:09 here
< 1391609392 6197 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:09:44  14:09 here
< 1391609421 884218 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wed  5 Feb 14:10:21 GMT 2014
< 1391609422 194296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodles
< 1391609422 926322 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooodles are the invention of the Chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb.
< 1391609431 325667 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run date
< 1391609431 891587 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wed Feb  5 14:10:30 UTC 2014
< 1391609445 99710 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today is Sweetmorn, the 36th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3180
< 1391609521 125495 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a discordian date?
< 1391609535 236540 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is :D
< 1391609579 905422 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah. https://twitter.com/ddate
< 1391609604 483466 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seems to be late though)
< 1391610035 891813 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The rights of a Pope include but are not necessarily limited to: (...) 3. To baptise, marry, and bury (with the permission of the deceased in the latter two cases). "
< 1391610502 465774 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391610823 628063 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe
< 1391610871 914963 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391610878 237448 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1391610896 665889 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: lol
< 1391611048 227910 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391611424 477962 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL
< 1391611424 997283 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 051412Z 05016KT 2SM -SN BKN014 OVC028 M09/M12 A3015 RMK SC7SC1 SLP213
< 1391611431 890619 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to -SN!
< 1391611713 611189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ENVA
< 1391611714 246271 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 051420Z 12008KT CAVOK 04/M05 Q1002 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 17010KT
< 1391611838 63150 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK
< 1391611838 534121 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 051420Z 10005KT 9999 SCT010 BKN150 M04/M06 Q1012 NOSIG
< 1391611852 351575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now they've gotten rid of the runways.
< 1391611856 479157 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a strange.
< 1391611863 646610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, have to bus a catch. ->
< 1391611920 581747 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they only show runway conditions if they are suboptimal.
< 1391611928 611933 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: good catching!
< 1391612054 598974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope he'll release it afterwards.
< 1391612110 250800 :Namaskar!~Namaskr@host86-163-78-143.range86-163.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391612138 142903 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gestures “I once catched a 10 ton bus that was that long”
< 1391612238 866476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone give boily medical help for his arms
< 1391612401 486599 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :contrary to what my previous affirmation may imply, I am most definitely not slenderman.
< 1391612534 242359 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Dith can make any species 'uncannily stealthy' with very little investment. A sneaky troll is awesome!”
< 1391612677 296959 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa they made a god for tras?
< 1391612687 477715 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even tren I guess
< 1391612692 219279 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally crawl is good again
< 1391613103 40868 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: not sure I agree with that, dtsund seems to have given recent Crawl up altogether because he feels it's more difficult than it should be
< 1391613109 444816 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to all the better strategies being nerfed
< 1391613127 868218 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! if dtsund has given up then it's probably even better than I thought
< 1391613196 348903 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“more difficult that it should be”? it's a roguelike, for fungot's sake!
< 1391613196 528494 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it exists.)
< 1391613199 562589 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it does.
< 1391613199 852607 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: fnord do! exchange has to call another procedure with those values as memory etc... :) ..but true. things work out though, because our cell is no longer ' ()
< 1391613451 72844 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: strangely enough, difficulty for the sake of difficulty does not create a good game
< 1391613476 144160 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, for instance, the comments by the creator of IWBTG about how he went to a lot of effort to make sure it wasn't too hard
< 1391613482 766336 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, time to go home
< 1391613482 968234 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1391613537 911577 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell callforjudgement I agree, but fun difficulty with challenging mental challenges is fun. it's like playing go.
< 1391613538 357138 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1391613559 904422 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 check your callforjudgement messages plzkthx hth twh hand
< 1391613560 245221 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1391613612 883997 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391613845 12591 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's important to be able to make progress - being stuck in the same spot for hours is a powerful fun-killer. Others include having to play the same boring sequence over and over again in order to get to a challenging part where one keeps failing.
< 1391613849 20324 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tough.
< 1391613866 337729 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't happen with procedurally generated permadeath games
< 1391613872 168209 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter, at least
< 1391613879 638193 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really the former either, unless it's a particularly grindy one
< 1391613923 801750 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can't make progress in one part, it's nice to be able to attack some other part
< 1391613929 433993 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's why DCSS has chopped off and shortened many branches and levels.
< 1391613953 460926 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: that's a big problem Angband has: one main line of repetetitive levels.
< 1391613988 92233 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was some game where apparently some people would go walk in a treadmill for extended periods of time, while they thought over what they had tried, and what they might try to do in other places
< 1391613994 885252 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having the same problem with ninja twins (level 26, no motivation to play further)
< 1391613995 473662 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: crawl does fairly well with that due to branches
< 1391614004 483039 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@93.114.44.88 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1391614041 724057 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though actually what puts me off most are the game logic glitches. In that level, one can partially push sliding blocks into other ones...)
< 1391614047 267737 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391614391 639365 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I caught it, rode it, and then let it go.
< 1391614699 864906 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391614708 227240 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks 'bot!
< 1391614743 642293 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello!
< 1391614757 658666 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello Johnnie
< 1391614758 442859 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jellohnnie
< 1391614782 644363 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I found my new favourite chimæ̈ric hello ^^
< 1391614788 203422 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^ Nice
< 1391614862 844826 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :After doing some tinkering on SPAM/1, I got to thinking about some of the very early issues of Byte magazine from Archive.org. I remember Chess being one of the first major programs published.
< 1391614927 822222 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :After that thought got stuck in my head for a while, I got to thinking "Why are we only doing Hello World programs? Couldn't we write something a bit bigger?"
< 1391614967 192374 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At first I thought of Chess, and then I thought something more simpler....Tic-Tac-Toe. Hence the entry in the Ideas page.
< 1391615092 664561 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i was thinking about "Matt Chat 173: Quest for Glory with Lori and Corey Cole" by Matt Barton in 2012-11-18 at , at 19:43 and some minutes through
< 1391615098 926984 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e,elliott__ : ^
< 1391615111 758328 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the whole interview is pretty enjoyable, though)
< 1391615142 7144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Scheduled maintenance
< 1391615145 641927 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to need to flag that down and view it after work.
< 1391615183 964184 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :youtube-dl-ing
< 1391615215 934614 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know "Crawl"
< 1391615262 103528 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a simple game algorithm would tell apart ones who are serious in developing an eso (or joke language) from those who just wants to do a quick BF derivative.
< 1391615304 421694 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: ssh joshua@crawl.akrasiac.org, password is joshua.
< 1391615311 367892 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why ?
< 1391615338 776522 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the most popular north american public crawl server?
< 1391615340 433744 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF' ... where cells store functions (initially 0); + adds e^x to the function; - subtracts e^x; . outputs the function value at 0, and ' takes the derivative of the current cell. ;-)
< 1391615343 525496 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Joshua....flashbacks of "War Games" ^__^ )
< 1391615363 823001 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with respect to x)
< 1391615390 777800 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Respect da x
< 1391615420 363833 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a derivative derivative of BF.
< 1391615477 309520 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That comes curiously close to John Conway's Game of Life, there
< 1391615594 968372 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Crawl" is a Rogue-like game ?)
< 1391615662 516839 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta go.
< 1391615672 51517 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
< 1391615691 352123 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup. it is (ostensibly) the Best Roguelike Out There.
< 1391615768 940123 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see
< 1391615809 346525 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't really felt any urge to try out Rogue-likes
< 1391615823 317812 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(perhaps Phantasie III is the closest)
< 1391615841 628769 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck phantasie 3
< 1391615842 100331 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantasie is a fantasy role-playing video game series designed by Winston Douglas Wood and published by Strategic Simulations, Inc. in 1985.
< 1391615873 484456 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :games published before I was born are the best ones.
< 1391616004 395683 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh, i've spent many hours playing Dungeon Master
< 1391616032 914612 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of the first 3D realtime action RPGs)
< 1391616340 601696 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sunk 1000s of hours into DM on my Amiga 500
< 1391616368 806677 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION grins
< 1391616423 364072 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot easier to master than Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup:)
< 1391616673 63676 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1391617286 578926 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon matily
< 1391617322 118942 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon matintopia!
< 1391617371 358339 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESSA
< 1391617371 676101 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSA 051550Z 02003KT 6000 BR OVC014 01/M01 Q1007 R01L/19//95 R08/19//95 R01R/19//95 NOSIG
< 1391617380 209191 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KATL
< 1391617380 686673 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 051552Z 31017G20KT 10SM BKN020 BKN025 11/07 A3002 RMK AO2 SLP169 T01060067
< 1391617392 991164 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 11? how dare you?
< 1391617435 34702 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar LOWI
< 1391617435 246857 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 051550Z VRB08G21KT 9999 FEW070 BKN110 BKN150 09/M02 Q1003 NOSIG
< 1391617478 158912 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foehn winds, apparently.
< 1391618331 36419 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? i didn't do it?
< 1391618390 160856 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did come up with something so crazy i don't understand it last night
< 1391618409 356656 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pray tell!
< 1391618973 879298 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay you have a queue of numbers
< 1391618994 438064 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far so good.
< 1391618997 263243 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you iteratively do the following
< 1391619007 175968 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pop two numbers x then y
< 1391619031 943021 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then pop x numbers and push them in order back onto the queue y times
< 1391619058 111964 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you would pop an empty queue, you get zero
< 1391619068 688868 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it
< 1391619121 893287 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so abc22 -> bcbca, where the reading end of the queue is to the right?
< 1391619133 819672 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :some queues delete themselves (having lots of 1's usually) some queues reach a steady state (of all two's)
< 1391619140 270342 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and many grow forever
< 1391619151 367221 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes int-e 
< 1391619158 56580 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some loop, like 2222 -> 2222
< 1391619158 354452 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 5 4 3 2 1 → 6 5 4 3 → 0 6 5 0 6 5 0 6 5?
< 1391619176 962376 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. 3 should be there 2 times.
< 1391619194 511111 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 5 4 3 2 1 -> 4 3 6 5, I think.
< 1391619209 67377 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err. which is x, which is y?
< 1391619217 327867 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 654321 33654 0336033603360336
< 1391619243 275295 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i usually put the read end on the right so i can append easier
< 1391619248 89292 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :by copy paste
< 1391619337 89984 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so here's what i know: if you have a queue with no number greater than 2, and no more than 2 2's adjacent, it will delete itself. if you have a queue will all twos (at least four) it never changes, and if you have all >1 it grows without bound.
< 1391619363 713660 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :>1?
< 1391619364 114310 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have yet to find an oscillator with period >1
< 1391619416 379019 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well, okay, it has to have some threes in the right position or it will steady state like all twos
< 1391619434 155375 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a healthy mix of twos and threes grows forever, for instance
< 1391619455 440101 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they are all >1 it will never get shorter
< 1391619495 58624 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :22 -> 0000 -> 00 -> e. sorry, boundary cases.
< 1391619538 362558 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i said at least four twos
< 1391619565 981046 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: in the last statement you said "healthy" which wasn't defined ;)
< 1391619580 733446 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i can't define it simply
< 1391619603 715965 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously any 2-digit string will die.
< 1391619606 760768 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you have to have some threes in positions which are 0 or 1 mod 4
< 1391619750 229628 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tricky. (32222)+ will stop growing.
< 1391619790 67222 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm now also popping from the left)
< 1391619889 916631 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like there are many ways to end up with repeated 2s eventually. The question of finding another kind of loop is interesting.
< 1391620004 569109 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you have to have some 3's in both types of positions apparently...
< 1391620024 615504 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the cases in between are the ones i'm interested in
< 1391620026 932974 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not. 07420742 -> 420742 -> 07420742
< 1391620035 45906 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what about queues with only 3's and 1's
< 1391620068 124413 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was quick
< 1391620070 522668 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice job
< 1391620127 824090 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about oscillators of arbitrary period
< 1391620129 778135 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :((0 ?)^k(2k)2)^{>=2}, of period k.
< 1391620134 596003 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :now how about a sequence that grows really really big before deleting itself over the course of thousands of iterations :P
< 1391620174 994780 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 10^10^10 1
< 1391620179 973155 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :did int-e just anticipate my question and answer it in two seconds
< 1391620219 872939 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what does that say
< 1391620261 534195 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's a starting sequence; after one step you have 10^10^10 1s. after 10^10^10/2 more steps, it'll be empty.
< 1391620262 20120 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i get it
< 1391620275 338792 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not, it's 10^10^10+1?
< 1391620286 341201 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, first guess was correct.
< 1391620301 410267 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's lame. i was hoping it'd have some non-1s in it for most of the steps.
< 1391620319 888406 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I messed this up: ((0 ?)^k(2k+2)2)^{>=2}, of period k+1
< 1391620332 664076 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a sequence that spends half the cycles growing and half the cycles shrinking, alternating between the two phases forever
< 1391620349 210308 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1391620350 936696 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm
< 1391620369 649963 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i just said, but replace forever with "finally deleting itself after thousands of cycles"
< 1391620432 905600 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "look for a cycle with period > 1, without using 0" is a good problem.
< 1391620438 6910 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 ...
< 1391620474 226831 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that keeps pushing more 1s to the end before becoming just 1s and destroying itself?
< 1391620496 201936 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :121 -> 11; 2121 -> 21; etc.
< 1391620618 582767 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, one can start with 3 n 1 4 1, which will grow for n+1 steps and then shrink for 2n steps, or so.
< 1391620688 851355 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(5 -> 3n -> 3n+1 -> ... -> 4n -> 4n-3 -> 4n-6 -> ... more like 4/3n steps of shrinking)
< 1391620698 257222 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1391620738 754511 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the shrinking phase consists of consuming 111, appending 1; the difference is only 2.
< 1391621204 70353 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i want to start with the beginning of pi
< 1391621666 109065 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/ddVC -- $ python q.py 0 7 4 2 0 7 4 2
< 1391621743 863747 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391621755 764345 :Namaskar!~Namaskr@host86-163-78-143.range86-163.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1391621782 12959 :Namaskar!~Namaskr@host86-163-78-143.range86-163.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391621894 734580 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :python q.py 8 2 0 7 0 9 0 -1 8 2
< 1391621959 967049 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1391622068 682753 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391622135 246166 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1391622147 402656 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :negative numbers?
< 1391622156 510370 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matter how often a string of length 0 is repeated ;)
< 1391622175 710382 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 2 0 n 4 2 and 4 2 6 n 4 2 seem to be the shortest oscillators
< 1391622220 450643 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 2 1 0 4 5 2 is also a cool one
< 1391622222 989654 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that i can just describe something here and get an implementation without any effort
< 1391622260 206930 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh it found a new one! 4 3 4 0 4 3
< 1391622303 148217 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a predecessor (4 0 4 3)^3; all part of the pattern :)
< 1391622314 888400 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :predecessor *of
< 1391622363 226297 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I'm wrong.
< 1391622413 811755 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it chops off 6 elements at once, I never did that.
< 1391622468 354678 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a nice one
< 1391622669 855396 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :426142 is an oscillator, but 426542 grows without bound
< 1391622677 627432 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bpaste.net/raw/LwjTn0HIUewiNZAWZPwJ/ short oscillators
< 1391622750 884324 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??
< 1391622760 236477 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/TfAC now in Python 3 and stopping after reaching ()
< 1391622808 359108 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 n 4n-8 0 4 n is another one that works for all n
< 1391622825 440685 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 4 6 16 0 4 6
< 1391622832 98541 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :426142 is still the only one with no zeros
< 1391623066 572066 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 2 10 1 8 1 6 2 is another (period 3). 6 2 8 1 6 2 8 1 is an accidental one with period 12.
< 1391623107 597727 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1391623119 215115 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like we can get complicated behavior?
< 1391623128 325460 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 2 14 1 12 1 10 1 8 2 has period 4, and there's a whole familiy of those.
< 1391623380 160313 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit obvious, but the 2{4,} family of oscillators could all be generated as  1 N 2
< 1391623399 60661 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pattern: 2n 2 (4n-2) 1 (4n-4) 1 ... (2n+4) 1 2n 2, for period n)
< 1391623410 159748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: beep boop
< 1391623410 414335 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: heh, my impression of uni was that the output tape, in any such language from the libraries. you just have a function that will find if two lambda expressions i gave? you didn't use
< 1391623433 799166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome password2 
< 1391623434 779607 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :08password2: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02irc.dal.net.)
< 1391623450 43238 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they were `relcome'd yesterday
< 1391623464 977426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEN WE RELCOME THEM AGAIN
< 1391623466 813911 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that only an attempt that failed due to unavailability of the HackEgo?
< 1391623470 466808 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay
< 1391623477 207950 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more the merrier, they say
< 1391623690 576885 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what is ...
< 1391623721 604230 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough random numbers to make the whole thing have 2n+2 elements?
< 1391623757 716683 :MoALTz!~no@host81-153-176-198.range81-153.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391624246 430051 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and the `relcomes Are!
< 1391624327 326254 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah , finally i get the full relcome
< 1391624353 709364 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and . HOLy shizz , colors in an irc channel
< 1391624407 794301 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo yes | rainbow
< 1391624408 471625 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0202y02e09s02
< 1391624409 503497 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: 12EMBRACE THE COLOURS!
< 1391624503 414907 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :may i post NSFW links here?
< 1391624537 984807 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but... why would you
< 1391624550 922450 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because its on topic and funny
< 1391624561 604173 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then post it
< 1391624569 877984 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSFW http://anticache.img5.joyreactor.com/pics/post/comics-oglaf-sex-rainbow-479025.jpeg
< 1391624611 67640 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what went through my head when i read 'EMBRACE the COLOURS'
< 1391624663 794507 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought for a second that you had a NSFW link about esolangs
< 1391624669 506808 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be.. impressive
< 1391624676 299408 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no , i meant the colours
< 1391624700 69427 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the colours are esoteric?
< 1391624710 569547 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course
< 1391624749 578462 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION browses Amazon for a certain Lovecraft story...
< 1391624759 96682 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am trying to imagine how a nsfw esoteric lang would work
< 1391624791 403592 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pointer will be named D
< 1391624983 898860 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1391625155 543878 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a very interesting overlap between this chännel's quotes, and crawl's learndb. I already knew elliott__'s in both, but then monqy too.
< 1391625374 221991 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , this channel has made it very tempting to try my hand at writing a eso lang
< 1391625482 233243 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i geuss i should try by writing an interpreter for one first
< 1391625585 828512 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1391625622 505295 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: that's usually how it goes. you write interps for various esolangs, get your brains mangled by underload, coast along, then create your own...
< 1391625660 152220 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1391625665 902605 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm so lazy
< 1391625667 116128 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p
< 1391625704 574710 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: project gutenberg didn't help?
< 1391625769 705380 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh. hm. eh. eeeeeegbhghghghgh.
< 1391625771 317653 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391625814 252315 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“eeeeeegbhghghghgh”: a native Canadiamerican word meaning “I completely forgot about Project Gutenberg.”
< 1391625881 111341 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and there's this one ... http://cthulhuchick.com/free-complete-lovecraft-ebook-nook-kindle/
< 1391626161 895872 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@93.114.43.205 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391626244 376066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nobody knows the wreck of the soul the way you do
< 1391626244 593958 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nooooo... *cries*) an call that code from chicken?
< 1391626255 766579 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: (
< 1391626255 946288 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it returns their both results. boggle.)
< 1391626261 502646 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: (
< 1391626261 682254 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ummm...i dont know. but i was suggesting that initself_ paste his stuff particularly amusing. and you...
< 1391626301 165550 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: whoi is initself?
< 1391626301 480685 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: " i've never used rails apart from the ugly ruby frameworks that i'm considering trying it out will be interesting
< 1391626314 3320 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh, a rubyist.
< 1391626314 519507 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what would ' aa fnord aaaaa' become? :d did i leave?
< 1391626327 169067 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: an exponentially growing sequence. next!
< 1391626327 381915 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: for say ' ( require-srfi 1)' would be better than buying her a zero
< 1391626341 522097 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hey, no human traffic! you can't buy Fiora.
< 1391626341 701702 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so that ( print ( 5 7 9) ' odd) ( else ' even))
< 1391626355 783280 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no no, I think the zero was a gift
< 1391626360 795427 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, where is she?
< 1391626380 113300 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: aaaah. the Gift of the Null Knowledge.
< 1391626392 708780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 oglaf
< 1391626411 718382 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: flowers and chocolate are common when it comes to humans, but I dunno about bots...
< 1391626411 935398 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: heh remember the fnord defun but mine would too but apparently it just isn't going to be wrong
< 1391626418 519564 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then again, zeroes are ring-formed, so there's always that
< 1391626441 32716 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it isn't going to be wrong?! great!
< 1391626441 212257 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: doesn't fnord five, for example. it could be
< 1391626472 251350 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a basket of chocolate-covered fnords would be a nice gift to fungot.
< 1391626472 430973 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: gui toolkits. which confused me. by " interesting" to most people.
< 1391626492 260776 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I don't think a lot of people find GUI toolkits interesting..
< 1391626516 252785 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION screams “JAVA SWING IS GOOD!”
< 1391627288 920112 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: JAVA SWING IS GOOD?
< 1391627289 279890 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: alfred jarry! say something about th' death of disco!! i'm in a chroot
< 1391627318 928499 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you grepped for fungot, I wonder if fungot or people asking fungot to speak would make less sense
< 1391627319 198815 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: does " algorithm" for applying unrestricted grammars, whereas i associate logic programming with a set of defined operations on cells? sounds a bit like fnord
< 1391627352 784015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: people make less sense. fungot is the Clearest of Us All.
< 1391627352 963496 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: s/ i/it/ it
< 1391627362 900017 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: see? ↑
< 1391627706 921220 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shining with the clarity of a smokescreen illuminated by fire
< 1391627910 960718 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you trying to get an "i'm in a chroot" meme going?
< 1391627911 140363 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: every time i've attempted. ( f a ( f b c) b c) b c)
< 1391627945 348315 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course there had to be unbalanced parentheses.
< 1391627995 939534 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION balances fungot with a curved mapole
< 1391627996 118772 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: uh... this can't be good.
< 1391628002 903583 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, it isn't.
< 1391628003 121994 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: either way it doesn't use any overly schemely stuff', ' names x', you know
< 1391628103 291204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a Java swing bit like a sex swing? 
< 1391628131 715692 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do have frames
< 1391628230 836819 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote fungot | shuf -n 1
< 1391628231 16554 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i'm just reading the program, and it was long ago...
< 1391628231 548166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :249)  Phantom_Hoover: if the list is in random order, like poor ehird here
< 1391628253 220171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a good one.
< 1391628275 558134 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yes. that quote was indeed long ago.
< 1391628275 821013 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: lol, in a country with compartively strong gun control, and partitioning, and almost a week until i buy more!"
< 1391628296 209288 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh
< 1391628326 124226 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: uhm. your bot. he is become Death.
< 1391628360 212164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kind of worrying. I guess e's buying guns over the Internet, then.
< 1391628413 229223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, regarding your earlier question, I think Fiora gave up on the channel when there was that discussion on offensive terminology the other day.
< 1391628470 124881 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. :(
< 1391628575 578385 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :
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< 1391629317 745956 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on my first defense :)
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< 1391630123 897028 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Johnnie defending what?
< 1391630124 443266 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
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< 1391630399 837965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: I read about your cuckoo proof of work function. very cool!
< 1391630442 211240 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1391630545 605340 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still not seeing any cuckoins though:-(
< 1391630583 76928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you plan to develop your own cryptocurrency?
< 1391630622 511774 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1391630653 25800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could get rich quick
< 1391630708 256384 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i alrd am:)
< 1391630723 542077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1391630732 29432 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so where can I buy esocoins?
< 1391630773 440189 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :first, port bitcoin source to brainfuck
< 1391630791 870278 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1391630835 128398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily You people with your "never use ask and tell consistently" policies!
< 1391630835 695832 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1391630871 613614 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or would esocoin replace proof of work be proof of new esolanf design?
< 1391630878 433896 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :be->by
< 1391630910 853003 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391630960 276709 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Nathanator on these IRC chats?
< 1391630974 410766 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's the difference between ask and tell? and don't tell me ask is related to MonadReader, and tell MonadState.
< 1391630980 360970 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/State/Writer/
< 1391631069 383448 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your excuse for not starting a crypto-currency, kmc?
< 1391631103 17123 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnny_: we have Taneb.
< 1391631192 163065 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nathanator and Taneb are two separate people, I take it.
< 1391631304 108444 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Newcastle
< 1391631304 773672 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :963)  it's raining in newcastle, therefore the elliotts are distinct.   boily's Newcastle Theorem.
< 1391631345 215314 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnny_: I suppose there's a functor going from elliott__ over to Taneb for that principle.
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< 1391631392 916438 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering if either SPAM/1 is in danger of being deleted, or if I need to put more effort into it (IE: transfer protocol vs. computer language)
< 1391631404 690437 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RE, not IE
< 1391631513 890350 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no admin is non-lazy enough to delete things with non-spam content
< 1391631591 923255 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. That gives me room to work on the programming language part of it. I think I might have put in too much emphasis on the transfer part.
< 1391631663 700436 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho, it's well spent emphasis. the first esolang with amateur radio codes!
< 1391631666 689355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: basic laziness
< 1391631699 368975 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :too lazy to get rich:)
< 1391631713 237319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm already fairly rich
< 1391631713 416965 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :These "Who created X?" captchas are clever
< 1391631727 574117 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody here who's poor and not lazy?
< 1391631735 806503 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for the vote of confidence, boily. I want to challenge myself to make a complete game. Either Tic-Tac-Toe (easiest) or chess (ambitious)
< 1391631738 388375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a lot of students don't we...
< 1391631739 731431 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I weren't lazy I wouldn't be poor
< 1391631751 841504 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: will you make such people rich?
< 1391631756 600123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think the expected value of making a new altcoin is that high
< 1391631764 186407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's the kind of thing i will fuck up with my laziness
< 1391631782 558073 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i probably should've read some context
< 1391631790 523782 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can start the first coin to use cuckoo cycle proof-of-work
< 1391631796 98903 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought tromp just joined and said that, but it was zzo who joined.
< 1391631850 516274 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the "who invented X?" CAPTCA questions on the wiki generated by parsing the articles or hardcoded?
< 1391632025 813270 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I was chatting up with someone else about my project, they suggested for me to add on the Carrier Pigeon standard as another physical layer of the language.
< 1391632104 368336 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'm that ambitious...but that would make for an interesting language...based entirely on carrier pigeons and no computers. (Sound existential and possibly stupid doesn't it? :-)
< 1391632128 772308 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :long live RFC 2549!
< 1391632137 483399 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the one!
< 1391632137 663158 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/25/11/
< 1391632146 600159 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers ← has them all.
< 1391632169 500290 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bingo!
< 1391632251 742879 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :1459 is the only RFC number I can remember..
< 1391632423 513961 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2822 has been somewhat important for a few projects.
< 1391633017 440590 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You guys are way ahead of me. All I have under my belt is inspiration from the first 6 issues of Byte and the first 2 issues of 73 magazine.
< 1391633317 716055 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what "ahead" would mean here
< 1391633362 356205 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ahead" here would mean I have no idea what RFC 1459 or (until last night) RFC 2549 are.
< 1391633451 579941 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're making good use of RFC 1459 at least
< 1391633528 883788 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- Googled up RFC 1459
< 1391633691 895464 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@93.114.43.205 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1391633746 332330 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh...and here I thought the IEEE was all there was. I had no idea the Internet Engineering Task Force existed.
< 1391633789 207321 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh  well, there's probably a whole array of stuff I don't have a clue about, either!
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< 1391634027 141143 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :revolving door?
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< 1391634672 808480 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant
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< 1391635930 366641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think is better way to store jump tables for use with RTS trick in 6502 programming? Some people store the low byte and high byte of the address together in one table, but I think it is better to store the low and high byte in two separate tables. What do you think is OK?
< 1391636268 608462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the tradeoffs of each approach?
< 1391636373 590964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first way requires a more complicated code to read the table, especially if there are more than 128 entries. The second way is difficult to enter in some assemblers which lack sufficient macro/preprocessor/postprocessor facilities.
< 1391636865 135501 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems other people think the first way is better despite this but to me clearly it is second way which is better.
< 1391636880 704643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a faster and smaller code.
< 1391637020 898965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah if you can push more of the work to the assembler then that seems better
< 1391637032 882598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since these days the assembler runs on a machine like 9,000,000,000x faster than the target 6502
< 1391637039 987315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
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< 1391637074 674548 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose they use assemblers without macros or something like that, though; or assemblers with macros that aren't very powerful.
< 1391637079 663286 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am enjoying playing Dungeons and Dragons
< 1391637079 885824 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391637091 747476 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I was playing Dungeons and Dragons yesterday.
< 1391637100 431212 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am typing it now, and will reveal when ready.
< 1391637127 845772 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ours isn't recorded and it isn't far enough into the story to tell you what's really going on
< 1391637147 290534 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK, then
< 1391637154 153480 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a crow sorceress who definitely isn't the Raven Queen, not even a raven queen
< 1391637172 837945 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is after a magical tattoo that ended up on my chest
< 1391637218 87123 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you have to cast a spell to remove it
< 1391637242 465710 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The party's mage is only level 1
< 1391637275 77702 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, we levelled up at the end of the session
< 1391637277 916067 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 49
< 1391637278 564995 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 49: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex
< 1391637296 704692 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then use mundane means to remove it to not waste the magic
< 1391637305 422111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or in case someone might counter it)
< 1391637308 790224 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we have access to any
< 1391637317 346505 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it doesn't seem particularly nefarious
< 1391637324 283265 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I've had it for a session and a half
< 1391637344 788669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now see how my game is played.
< 1391637363 732055 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I often find it useful to act last even if I have initiative, perhaps almost half of the time.
< 1391637382 654935 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My character is a pacifist, which is interesting and fun in its own way
< 1391637390 790724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is OK
< 1391637403 73085 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But all four other members of the party are quite combat heavy
< 1391637431 333385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My character is pretty weak at combat too, and doesn't do much combat
< 1391637438 983816 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: ETERNAL MAGICAL UNREMOVED CHICKEN
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< 1391637448 79800 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a "kill" count, which is currently 1
< 1391637453 688483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly doing other stuff, both magical and mundane.
< 1391637477 578948 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My character mostly heals
< 1391637496 71442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But isn't technically pacifist except he won't ever deliberately harm any aberration type creatures.
< 1391637522 383163 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also am the one to heal in my party, but isn't most of what I do, and I do have one damaging spell but mainly use it just as one way to light things on fire.
< 1391637544 262078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case we need something lit on fire; if it is nonliving then they can't dodge either.
< 1391637588 575197 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also can't save.
< 1391637763 717743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The book "Art of Defense in Chess" inspired some of the tactics I use, too. Do you like to use tactics similar to chess and chess variant too?
< 1391637780 966283 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo, defense!
< 1391637900 987745 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which tactics are those zzo38?
< 1391637918 494768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what sorts of things do you light on fire?
< 1391637959 574766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't commonly light things on fire, and even when I do, is more commonly using mundane means to do so, but sometimes things such as wooden doors, explosives, etc
< 1391637990 543673 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a good way to get through a door which is locked?
< 1391637992 357528 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tactics I mean are all sorts of defensive tactics, but also tactics which combine attack with defense.
< 1391638015 56904 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It depends on the circumstances. Everything is depend on the circumstances. Maybe there is no need to get through such a door anyways.
< 1391638106 646998 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once use a fire to light a secret hideout on fire; I was magically slowed, and would probably have failed if I was fast since the people in the way would not have dodged.
< 1391638155 699182 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the slowness is actually to my advantage; spell the opponent cast on me, or try to do, are to my advantage, whether or not I know what the spell is, in fact.
< 1391638220 358181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For more details it is necessary to read the file I linked.
< 1391639316 158887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391639359 511367 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1391639368 653258 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391639455 919160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : BF' ... where cells store functions (initially 0); + adds e^x to the function; - subtracts e^x; . outputs the function value at 0, and ' takes the derivative of the current cell. ;-)
< 1391639460 902139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see what you did there
< 1391639751 508546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i usually put the read end on the right so i can append easier <-- heretic!
< 1391639809 913874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes it a _lot_ harder on the eyes to trace the running
< 1391639820 112417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the brain
< 1391639911 125225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you see the olist
< 1391639917 686610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1391639941 296684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :live, even
< 1391639943 614847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :Fake diamonds that are glued to eyes of plastic crows | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/
< 1391639947 776585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa
< 1391639985 635701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you think of montreal
< 1391639985 815315 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i got to work on the mapper. it's
< 1391640012 161057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why does the topic have lyrics in it
< 1391640089 811122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it usually, when I've set it?
< 1391640097 5416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they're not even from montreal :<
< 1391640129 135569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what do you think of of montreal
< 1391640173 256232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :paris
< 1391640174 503533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the
< 1391640176 663701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spring
< 1391640184 217817 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't know anything about it
< 1391640196 875304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oslo in the summertime?
< 1391640207 211320 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391640214 697581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hike
< 1391640266 25341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloke
< 1391640289 970898 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :confusing
< 1391640706 737540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you
< 1391640726 882191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you missed zzo38 talking about lighting things on fire
< 1391640757 839918 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm tire
< 1391640759 814348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know about monotonic functions between finite ordinals
< 1391640768 321690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait. non-empty finite ordinals...........that changes everything
< 1391640776 329849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe this is why i kept having those off-by-one errors
< 1391641123 471479 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you 2 tired
< 1391641233 880687 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1391641278 766198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter where we are, we're always touching by underground wires
< 1391641364 564849 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1391641509 639806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen nathanator
< 1391641510 270485 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /var/irclogs/_esoteric/????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory \ not lately; try `seen nathanator ever
< 1391641513 862373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ack
< 1391641519 252961 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391641851 81297 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: You're being a bit optimistic with that `seen ... ever bit. It's not going to work any better.
< 1391641877 162112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever the optimist
< 1391641927 706423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it is ILLOGICAL to fill a room with foam" http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/140205.html
< 1391642504 635458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Are the "who invented X?" CAPTCA questions on the wiki generated by parsing the articles or hardcoded? <-- hardcoded
< 1391642520 986305 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Booring
< 1391642832 562728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who invented this sentence?
< 1391642893 749084 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did
< 1391642931 319313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions
< 1391642931 944269 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, and weetoflakes.
< 1391642972 94252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/and .*/weetoflakes, and this sentence./' wisdom/tanebvention
< 1391642973 466262 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391642976 978162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions
< 1391642977 853782 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, weetoflakes, and this sentence.
< 1391643057 464520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? this sentence
< 1391643058 154344 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sentence? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1391643093 871827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo >wisdom/this\ sentence 'This sentence was invented by Taneb. Taneb invented it.'
< 1391643095 333103 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391643117 244444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? this sentence
< 1391643117 961607 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sentence was invented by Taneb. Taneb invented it.
< 1391643165 144020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? atriq
< 1391643165 840477 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq or two
< 1391643176 421425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb
< 1391643177 231310 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards, and five genders. (See also: d-modules)
< 1391643251 519710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/d-modules/tanebventions/' wisdom/taneb
< 1391643253 137734 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391643321 275351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea
< 1391643394 323400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did Taneb invent Tanebventions
< 1391643399 573451 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how many *backup* genders does Taneb have?
< 1391643404 496357 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think boily did, shachaf
< 1391643486 861439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is invention transitive
< 1391643511 865754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.
< 1391643728 664806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cellular automata
< 1391643729 503091 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cellular automata? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1391643732 547031 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? stephen wolfram
< 1391643733 223376 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stephen Wolfram is an esolanger with too much money and power. Taneb invented him.
< 1391643908 28817 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1391643945 814392 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esolang
< 1391643946 471172 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1391643986 123782 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? automatic squirrel feeder
< 1391643986 800633 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Automatic squirrel feeders are just feeders in the category of automatic squirrels. Taneb invented them.
< 1391644016 303408 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Go
< 1391644017 63692 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go is a common verbal game programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in the strategic territories of East Asia.
< 1391644345 101465 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391644371 875422 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1391644635 893578 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391644713 801723 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, all. I'm working on designing a new esolang, and I'm running into some trouble.
< 1391644729 979435 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some pieces are described here: ...
< 1391644744 442277 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cs.stackexchange.com/questions/4618/what-piece-am-i-missing-to-turn-this-idea-into-a-programming-language/4912#4912
< 1391644823 459644 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've since come up with a syntax and execution model. It operates byte-wise, as a TAG-system, applying function trees upon the program input stream.
< 1391644861 174765 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rough draft interpreter (doesn't implement function trees): http://codepad.org/wqOOdShZ
< 1391644890 720827 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout
< 1391644925 777943 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391644947 293912 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But trying to implement anything is exceedingly painful. I can't seem to make an adder since everything operates bitwise.
< 1391644976 348256 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no nice way to propagate data from one bit to another.
< 1391645067 374284 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it needs an association mechanism so you can store functions in variables and not have to spell everything out literally. ... Then I could make a standard library with adders and stuff....
< 1391645155 621424 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :string-rewriting seems much more tedious than stack-based systems. I'm not sure if there's anything I can do to alleviate that with fancy syntax.
< 1391645207 318490 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's the mess that brought me here! Not sure if I really have a question in there ... :)
< 1391645294 469078 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently, to make a loop, you have to make a quine. :)
< 1391645311 542858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that much isn't so unusual in esolangs
< 1391645343 4007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm too tired to understand yours right now
< 1391645352 933317 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no prob. me too. :)
< 1391645378 421305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen /// by the way
< 1391645388 778626 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1391645401 315264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(string rewriting + making quines are the bread and butter of it)
< 1391645425 327211 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. I didn't work with it enough to realize that.
< 1391645504 976719 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of itself, that doesn't seem too terrible. ... But I'm not even sure how to do it with my language as currently defined.
< 1391645541 904259 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I should let the unconscious work on it for a while.
< 1391645677 557837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea
< 1391645757 137649 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391646106 726226 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391646131 913780 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391646326 892959 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two blocks of code, A and B, where B has a comment implying it needs to be below A. I decide B needs to be above A. The meaning of one of B's lines changes, and the comment needs to change... but the line in question still means what I need it to mean, even though it's something different from what it originally meant
< 1391646375 865181 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you pick the most bizarre points in a problem to resort to irc Sgeo
< 1391646396 529714 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't asking for IRC's assistence
< 1391646408 196821 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was noting something funny that happened
< 1391646420 306115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is pretty cool
< 1391646449 872836 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I don't know if I should have made the change though, before the change was what got QAed, although I felt it was less correct
< 1391646450 481202 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/
< 1391648935 60355 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone else sometimes use 'mv /path/to/file/name_{old,new}'
< 1391648948 477247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that the standard thing
< 1391648968 634065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good yes
< 1391648972 206580 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xwwfothbgxldfgvg QUIT :Changing host
< 1391648972 386572 :ggherdov_!sid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391648972 386711 :ggherdov_!sid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov QUIT :Changing host
< 1391648972 386779 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xwwfothbgxldfgvg JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391648974 373715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :KMC Seal of Approval
< 1391648982 122424 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xwwfothbgxldfgvg NICK :ggherdov
< 1391649033 513277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i've started doing rm -fr instead of rm -rf
< 1391649047 884197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with that
< 1391649053 791214 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :How french
< 1391649071 863085 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use {,~} and {~,} with mv rather often
< 1391649081 748375 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or cp
< 1391649103 779276 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean République française?
< 1391649167 522784 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course.
< 1391649168 138238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i keep using that on HackEgo, anyway.
< 1391649190 148590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(usually when someone's misnamed a wisdom entry)
< 1391649193 266911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :{^__^}
< 1391649195 495075 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know a website on group theory that's like, "Here's an interesting starting point, see where you can go!"
< 1391649417 806538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: now i'm reminded of oskar's cube
< 1391649442 832991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i played it on the web many years ago
< 1391649481 82281 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, find out how the orbit-stabiliser theorem works or something, that got me hooked
< 1391649715 535418 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1391649728 646201 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391649876 122332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah i found a java applet (perhaps the same as years ago) and IE's security settings refuse to run it.
< 1391649909 222620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps it's actually malware, who knows.
< 1391649994 726659 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::src Lens
< 1391650014 151058 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :type Lens s t a b = forall f. Functor f => (a -> f b) -> s -> f t
< 1391650024 944442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: you have competition
< 1391650052 435799 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah, I don't think Racket has convenient functors
< 1391650127 87652 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't just use the function functor, can I? For some reason I was thinking of a lens as a modifier
< 1391650153 28840 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have put 0 thought as to what having f be (-> r) would mean in this case
< 1391650259 185903 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use data-lens style lenses?
< 1391650466 807974 :Namaskar!~Namaskr@host86-163-78-143.range86-163.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1391650588 928744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(-> r) is a contravariant functor isn't it? unless you meant ((->) r)
< 1391650591 941330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"best syntax ever"
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< 1391652994 741592 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1391653152 934312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1391653512 621303 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should totally attempt to write a maccall for Racket
< 1391653814 365586 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1391654089 777598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that
< 1391654552 769327 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :funcall for macros... evaluates the first expression in the transformer environment then applies the result to the rest of the body of the maccall
< 1391654567 275747 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea if that's actually a good idea
< 1391654629 554274 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/syntax-util.html?q=syntax-ev&q=eval#%28def._%28%28lib._racket%2Fsyntax..rkt%29._syntax-local-eval%29%29
< 1391654633 388621 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax-local-eval
< 1391655720 376791 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I think the Racket core language is well specified in terms of its syntax, but not what primitive functions exist :(
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< 1391656417 76587 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/15570254295359/15570254295359.ogg
< 1391656430 833674 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this some well-known classical music that I just never thought of in those terms?
< 1391656437 203588 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or some other well-known piece?
< 1391656592 658179 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :from gregor? i wouldn't think so...
< 1391656643 270575 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The .ogg was generated by his WebMIDI service
< 1391657238 244423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what's funcall
< 1391657281 309181 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Common Lisp function that lets you call value that represents a function
< 1391657314 7312 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assume compose is adequately defined. ((compose f g) 1) won't work, but (funcall (compose f g) 1) does
< 1391657320 652023 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first item in the list has to be a function name
< 1391657329 45925 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think literal lambdas count as function names)
< 1391657489 120666 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: parts of that music reminds me of Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition
< 1391657674 257332 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: there's a special case to allow ((lambda ...) ...), yeah.
< 1391657675 719223 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear it
< 1391657678 970271 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: thanks for reminding me how bad midi instruments on webmidi sound
< 1391657690 412221 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: blame sonivox
< 1391657691 98589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: oh this is a Lisp-2 thing?
< 1391657693 934758 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes
< 1391657704 582338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#justlisp2things
< 1391657718 553194 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it's sometimes nice to do (map #'funcall ...) and such.
< 1391657729 387417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the advantage of lisp-2 again
< 1391657737 97406 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: was it made in canada? its not worth laying blame unless i can blame canada
< 1391657738 890745 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1391657754 281163 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: better for small talk than the weather
< 1391657757 656016 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: In Haskell, you do have ($)
< 1391657760 574298 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is id
< 1391657779 628203 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes?
< 1391657794 530585 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't mean that was special to cl o'course
< 1391657808 79518 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess funcall isn't totally a Lisp-2 thing, but it's not as needed in a *-1
< 1391657828 481550 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, well, not needed for all the use-cases CL needs it for, anyway
< 1391657842 525209 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can think of some reasons to want it in kernel, but yeah
< 1391657848 140728 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a terribly interesting function
< 1391657873 626844 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, one is no overlap with non-hygienic macros between functions, which aren't often letted, and other lexical variables
< 1391657885 406684 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if that's the one most CLers would point to
< 1391658201 775042 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
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< 1391660686 738879 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1391660780 491342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One-person protests are legal in Russia, and the two activists holding signs were spaced far enough apart that neither was arrested."
< 1391660790 360828 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391660813 282191 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :admirable planning!
< 1391661574 688081 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem!
< 1391661876 478616 :password2!~password@197.78.132.189 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391662317 361906 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving...
< 1391662546 939093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: -fr is the scow of rm options
< 1391662598 921145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i bought some KMC brand card sleeves
< 1391662872 550131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow?
< 1391662899 863024 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391662977 263524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in the worst specimen of something
< 1391663016 254066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1391663018 152214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it the worst
< 1391663029 873987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it worse than -rf or -r -f or --recursive --force
< 1391663041 402761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recursive Force is my new superhero team name
< 1391663069 428349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know
< 1391663078 186341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is "xzvf" the right order for tar options?
< 1391663079 991991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just is
< 1391663094 775989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows that
< 1391663101 299500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar xyzzy
< 1391663121 691307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dsfjdssdfsd -- The dsfjdssdfsd list provides a venue for discussion of randomness in IETF protocols
< 1391663137 423426 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1391663470 233569 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1391664185 780011 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: as in garbage scow!
< 1391664202 251609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that's right
< 1391664253 475656 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you taught me that word
< 1391664299 994387 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i promise to use it someday
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< 1391665000 841726 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should write a fun esolang on top of https://microcorruption.com/login
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< 1391668820 577975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi newsham
< 1391668860 149845 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391669415 610294 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :howdy
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< 1391669894 892993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye
< 1391669984 270163 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 253 seconds
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< 1391675063 86336 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wonder if i said a lot of random stuff here, accidentally put my mouse in the top left corner again and all the programs formed a grid
< 1391675067 200439 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this time i can't get back
< 1391675082 123035 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now i can use all the programs at once, but i can't exactly see what i'm doing
< 1391675086 930363 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i just manually rediscovered the 62816281 oscillator :P
< 1391675097 752755 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe  areboot
< 1391675101 437967 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i miss windows
< 1391675116 949731 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: your example for Clue looks a lot like Wouter's example from the screenshot of Aardappel
< 1391675136 525199 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we should have a battle of the programming-by-example languages
< 1391675149 106730 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i have to take the battery out because the power button just opens a "shut this system now" window and the mouse doesn't do much
< 1391675152 658008 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish i could read your replies
< 1391675176 706136 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you write in like huge walls of letter
< 1391675180 31814 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s
< 1391675318 576715 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I would put z first, or skip it entirely since (gnu) tar autodetects compression
< 1391675318 756276 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1391675347 407059 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a hoot
< 1391675356 15322 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also always do rm -fr, which apparently is much less common than rm -rf
< 1391675411 584639 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" oklopol: your example for Clue looks a lot like Wouter's example from the screenshot of Aardappel" it does?
< 1391675433 224045 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall reading some of aardappel's documentation, but i thought it was a much weaker kind of programming by example
< 1391675445 565756 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, i never even realized they have something in common
< 1391675453 698818 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if i just plagiarized the whole thing
< 1391675461 592637 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :which example are you referring to?
< 1391675475 407550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you know http://hackage.haskell.org/package/regex-compat-0.95.1/docs/src/Text-Regex.html#subRegex uses a regex to search for backreferences in the replacement string
< 1391675486 907238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1391675503 737196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the whole haskell regular expression thing is ridiculous
< 1391675506 856085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the packages
< 1391675513 541553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the apis
< 1391675521 912711 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391675532 884371 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc one of the examples in the snobol manual was a snobol grammar, i appreciated that
< 1391675547 13216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you should solve it by making a new api in a new package
< 1391675594 844167 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: lone sleepy shite
< 1391675616 862858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(=~) :: (RegexMaker Regex CompOption ExecOption source, RegexContext Regex source1 target) => source1 -> source -> target
< 1391675643 62074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I remember complaining about that a lot
< 1391675653 334369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: https://twitter.com/MuseumOfTypes
< 1391675746 965836 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the big difference is that in aardappel, you actually describe exactly what the program flow is; it's just written in terms of concrete examples. the point of clue is that there is no direct way to control program flow.
< 1391675768 211712 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aardappel actually makes a lot of sense; not that i have any idea whether it's any nicer to program in than clue.
< 1391675837 183613 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course, in practice, you program in clue by splitting your function into a million subfunctions, but in theory that's only because my compiler is kind of crappy)
< 1391676004 385920 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cool, kate has sessions
< 1391676028 442185 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe next time my computer throws a fit i won't have to spend half a day opening files
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< 1391678172 412918 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^tel nooodl 434043 is actually infinitely extendable. 4340434043 or 43404340434043 etc. all are period 2.
< 1391678180 678660 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^tell nooodl 434043 is actually infinitely extendable. 4340434043 or 43404340434043 etc. all are period 2.
< 1391678180 858127 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you mean @tell instead?
< 1391678192 123154 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell nooodl 434043 is actually infinitely extendable. 4340434043 or 43404340434043 etc. all are period 2.
< 1391678192 302670 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1391678199 971656 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked it when you did it fungot
< 1391678200 226419 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: but you'd expect a comic, but fnord seals help. thanks to the wonderful world of metric units... they're as specific as possible
< 1391678264 825178 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What makes a unit more specific? 
< 1391678265 54539 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i use both hands
< 1391678350 943035 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see.
< 1391678599 666923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you see the series of posts starting at http://conway.rutgers.edu/~ccshan/wiki/blog/posts/WordNumbers1/
< 1391678654 486071 :password2!~password@197.78.132.189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1391681453 961990 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Bike "After several years of successful events worldwide, MATLAB EXPO comes to the Nordic region for the first time in 2014." Aren't we lucky?!
< 1391681454 386263 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
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< 1391688022 48428 :Namaskar!~Namaskr@host86-163-78-143.range86-163.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving
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< 1391689533 1 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391689554 56321 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1391689554 300716 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1391689613 887972 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1391690909 369962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : kmc: -fr is the scow of rm options <-- i tried googling if "is the scow of" was a new meme, but in fact there's only two hits, one of which is a literal scow and the other of which is a misspelling.
< 1391691065 159831 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1391691267 730317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the second is a misOCRing, actually.
< 1391691365 262185 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391691858 391458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sensible
< 1391693122 100617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realizes phil foglio writes pretty funny blog posts
< 1391693332 469136 :password2!~password@197.78.132.189 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1391694292 220980 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391694628 17974 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~meta LOWI
< 1391694635 778372 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar LOWI
< 1391694647 992028 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity
< 1391694663 717166 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bergfex.at/tirol/wetter/stationen/innsbruck-flughafen/ then.
< 1391694913 742791 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I get myself Purely Functional Data Structures? Hmm
< 1391694987 181706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok as a ki
< 1391695037 724059 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okasaki, hmm. The thesis can be downloaded, maybe look at that and then make your decision.
< 1391695133 488070 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I'm ordering it
< 1391695477 748249 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391695482 181030 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391695502 893611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait these posts were actually by kaja, not phil.
< 1391695537 829181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the tagging is confusing.
< 1391695573 260489 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's hoping that the tagging is acyclic.
< 1391695632 237550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's tagged phil's blog but uploaded by kaja.
< 1391695721 762182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think that does mean phil wrote it, since others are tagged "kaja's blog".
< 1391696605 415573 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/NCKS <- crazy.
< 1391696617 573390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I heard of a similar thing somewhere in I think Sweden.)
< 1391696640 748883 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said all there is to say about that service.
< 1391696736 394781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The German banks sued Sofort for inducing their customers to break their terms and conditions by disclosing passwords, but the case failed when the Federal competition authorities intervened and told the court that competition with the payment card cartel was welcome."
< 1391696740 402649 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't exactly have a great love for banks in general, but that all still feels weird.
< 1391696785 670303 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now the banks will go after their customers?
< 1391696826 705977 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if they've started to just systematically refuse all fraud claims from anyone who's used that thing.
< 1391696837 447738 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is a customer supposed to tell the difference between a benign, honest payment proxy service and a dishonest one?
< 1391696849 775520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But it sounds like something they could conceivably do.)
< 1391696910 479893 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good terrifying morning!
< 1391696925 278464 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an rsync source for the logs?
< 1391696957 820358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a hg source, wasn't there? 
< 1391696982 211207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't think there's public rsync, but could be wrong.
< 1391697061 951012 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom
< 1391697062 685917 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :` \ `? \   \ _̰̆̓_�̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_͂͋͒ͧ͋�̯͙̬̬̦̯̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ \ ? \ ?? \ @ \ \ \ ⌨ \ ⊥ \ ☃ \ 🐐 \ ̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚�͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔҉̕͜͠͠
< 1391697070 838159 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... I wanted the special case here.
< 1391697074 813227 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom
< 1391697075 605200 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :` \ `? \   \ _̰̆̓_�̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_͂͋͒ͧ͋�̯͙̬̬̦̯̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ \ ? \ ?? \ @ \ \ \ ⌨ \ ⊥ \ ☃ \ 🐐 \ ̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚�͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔҉̕͜͠͠
< 1391697080 161897 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit.
< 1391697101 831172 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom
< 1391697102 432496 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/
< 1391697123 947 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though the banks themselves are not much better. I believe I've mentioned 3dsecure here before ...)
< 1391697140 730509 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you mentioned that horror before.
< 1391697154 936830 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, IEUAAAAAAAARGH!
< 1391697161 952554 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? node
< 1391697162 611580 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :node? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1391697213 613103 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've probably missed any mentions of 3-D Secure, but I see it quite a lot these days. A grandiose name it's got, at least.
< 1391697222 427552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sofort sounds like a good idea with horribly insecure implementation.
< 1391697332 593028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ah yes, that's quite annoying...
< 1391697363 748623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ls
< 1391697364 252507 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/bash \ if /bin/ls -id "$@" 2>/dev/null | grep -q ^969195 ; then echo 'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf instead.'; else exec -a ls /bin/ls "$@"; fi
< 1391697365 184922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the 3-D Secure banking account query comes directly from the bank. Well, when it isn't a phishing scam version, anyway.
< 1391697377 10395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /bin/ls -id wisdom
< 1391697377 576789 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :790887 wisdom
< 1391697387 884153 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it still looks like cross site scripting and does not play well with NoScript.
< 1391697398 499087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/969195/790887/' bin/ls
< 1391697400 18131 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391697402 552157 :trn!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391697402 870937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom
< 1391697403 419166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf instead.
< 1391697438 252217 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/ls
< 1391697438 831903 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/ls: Bourne-Again shell script, ASCII text executable
< 1391697488 320499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!logs
< 1391697494 370279 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the special case is both useful and not at the same time. I think I'm trying to solve the wrong problem here.
< 1391697517 87030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: do that and it'll tell you the rsync by notice
< 1391697522 784402 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I'm trying to get is a list of mtimes for wisdom entries, in order to fulfill my duty as a Wisdom Lexicographer.
< 1391697532 806767 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!logs
< 1391697572 870129 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice!
< 1391697579 543479 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan++
< 1391697626 277383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: alas the repository browser is currently broken due to being connected to the old HackEgo server
< 1391697631 586911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that
< 1391697808 286683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think Gregor said the http proxy is also broken, which means basically there's no way to get information out of HackEgo except through irc lines
< 1391698021 38590 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so \ you \ have \ to \ ex \ fil \ trate \ slow \ ly.
< 1391698046 712068 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I counted the number of syllables and then decided against using actual newlines. I hope you all appreciate my restraint.)
< 1391698277 844571 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1391698506 176180 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: «qu' \ est- \ ce \ qui \ a \ be \ soin \ d'être \ ex \ fil \ tré?» (what needs to be exfiltered? (sorry for the French, it's easier for me to count syllables so.))
< 1391698818 849018 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :da \ ta.
< 1391699178 475256 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o \ i \ c.
< 1391699496 628778 :hogeyui__!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz NICK :hogeyui
< 1391699615 776516 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ṉ
< 1391699616 418572 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[U+1E49 LATIN SMALL LETTER N WITH LINE BELOW]
< 1391699648 373585 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uniencode EQUALITY SIGN WITH LINE BELOW
< 1391699648 928300 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: uniencode: not found
< 1391699650 948953 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1391699682 892705 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode EQUALITY SIGN WITH LINE BELOW
< 1391699683 498969 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown character.
< 1391699690 383901 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :=≡≣
< 1391699691 23870 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: :/
< 1391699697 849752 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, shiny lines!
< 1391699730 882279 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :=̈Ξ̈
< 1391699745 640468 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :⪠ (hmm, invisible in my terminal)
< 1391699802 540524 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is one fungot of a character.
< 1391699802 720235 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: sit for you?
< 1391699817 101992 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: indeed. a bunch of lines sitting on top of each other.
< 1391699817 305603 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you can implement one in c
< 1391699828 507204 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well, everything can be implemented in C.
< 1391699828 686809 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: or maybe talking about government or media schemes *ponder* where did you get their... basics. oh, and it
< 1391699851 696891 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: the government ponders and spies on its citizens, as usual. nothing new there.
< 1391699851 999821 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: erc doesn't seem to be wanting to restrict yourself that way? :o) so, i'm switching off python
< 1391699870 595746 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Python can't be switched off. Python is the Eternal Light.
< 1391699941 348320 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⛃
< 1391699942 17535 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[U+26C3 BLACK DRAUGHTS KING]
< 1391700028 479706 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SHORT LEFTWARDS ARROW ABOVE RIGHTWARDS ARROW
< 1391700029 187112 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown character.
< 1391700043 500363 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⥂⥃⥄
< 1391700044 290302 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[U+2942 RIGHTWARDS ARROW ABOVE SHORT LEFTWARDS ARROW] [U+2943 LEFTWARDS ARROW ABOVE SHORT RIGHTWARDS ARROW] [U+2944 SHORT RIGHTWARDS ARROW ABOVE LEFTWARDS ARROW]
< 1391700069 819453 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it. Why add 3 of four combinations?
< 1391700139 505912 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the fourth was banned by the [REDACTED] branch of the Second Schism of the East-North-Eastern Quasi-Orthodox Sub-Russian Christian Amalgamated Church.
< 1391700198 948247 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My fault, I still haven't given up the idea that Unicode is supposed to make sense.)
< 1391700216 89581 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: when in doubt, the answer is back compat
< 1391700223 809474 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honestly, I should know better.
< 1391700286 284975 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should instead marvel at the perfectly regular Braille range.
< 1391700605 821077 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꕂꕀ\o/ꕁꕀ
< 1391700606 28654 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  |
< 1391700606 208299 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /<
< 1391700730 245931 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :🀲🀹🀺🀿🀴🁌🁜🀻🁊🁍
< 1391700770 978750 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I think screen destroyed those.
< 1391700887 139153 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bunch of .
< 1391701053 228184 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were supposed to be dominoes
< 1391701112 61792 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1391701230 634397 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :second attempt at dominating: 🀱🀲🀳🀴🀵🀶🀷
< 1391701253 787109 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391701281 901265 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.quakenet.org/articles/102-press-release-irc-networks-under-systematic-attack-from-governments
< 1391701360 520117 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if you check the logs you'll see that both attempts worked: 
< 1391701367 570277 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2014-02-06
< 1391701382 448984 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: my local weechat logs seem to bork them, sadly.
< 1391701408 936807 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or probably not. an hexdump has them all.)
< 1391701456 70696 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely, myndzi 69ed his stick figure.
< 1391701580 877597 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are right in my Weechat buffer and logs.
< 1391701774 113011 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something is wrong here. very wrong.
< 1391701855 518582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stick figure looks completely sfw here
< 1391701891 589652 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it is. the characters ‘6’ and ‘9’ are displayed twice before the body.
< 1391701909 948581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah the log thing is because of some irc codes that don't show up in browsers
< 1391702016 696515 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.
< 1391702043 638277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see the same kind of thing whenever someone `relcomes
< 1391702098 227761 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome `relcome
< 1391702099 140602 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13`relcome: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.)
< 1391702107 572475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume myndzi's codes are to make the figures look good in more clients
< 1391702111 575501 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am now illuminated.
< 1391702130 306345 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION moves the flashlight away from boily's face
< 1391702142 684170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `relcome doesn't need welcoming, it's been here for ages
< 1391702152 247292 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome HackEgo
< 1391702153 120610 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :09HackEgo: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06irc.dal.net.)
< 1391702154 286516 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^Cnnn[,nnn] switches colors in mIRC, but color 69 is not defined. ^O switches back to the original.
< 1391702154 603346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :callforjudgement
< 1391702156 865034 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391702163 351050 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like a complete waste of bandwidth to me.
< 1391702163 968042 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523
< 1391702182 98107 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: presumably to avoid bots interpreting it as a command
< 1391702186 336821 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION grabs back his precious flashlight from FireFly, thank you very much.
< 1391702196 57054 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: plausible, thanks
< 1391702225 770265 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think just ^O should do it, really
< 1391702228 379524 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thausible?)
< 1391702268 968221 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minor dilemma...should I switch all of the syntax on my language to Morse Code, or leave it as Amateur Radio Callsigns? (In other words, do I really need to be nice?)
< 1391702279 838483 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yes, but given the channel's background, sneaking in a 69 that noone is ever likely to see is kind of cute.
< 1391702291 471073 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair point.
< 1391702350 705846 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnnie: I like the ARC words.
< 1391702374 599221 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: a “thausible” thing is one that is theoretically plausible.
< 1391702409 503524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1391702419 826513 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems thausible to me.
< 1391702490 954215 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do too, boily.  I think I need to emphasize SPAM/1 as a morse code language somehow. How about this...ARC words in defining syntax and examples, and morse code in coding examples?
< 1391702499 378429 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :thausiblee
< 1391702572 888395 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnnie: sounds good.
< 1391702621 565088 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'A thausiblee is the recipient of a thausible action.' >wisdom/thausiblee
< 1391702623 30909 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391702652 482356 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: thausiblee = thausible and only thausible
< 1391702679 705667 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I'm on a roll. I'm going to define more of the mathematics section tonight. I felt I needed to deal with output of large and small numbers first and get that out of the way, at least.
< 1391703414 323899 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
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< 1391704355 418581 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anothellost.
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< 1391705847 34444 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i was looking at a similar triangles worksheet with a flagpole problem on it and my brain reported the word as "mapole" the first time i scanned it.
< 1391705867 385954 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you are a breeder of memetic viruses
< 1391706340 632083 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: define the mapole problem
< 1391706378 116789 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391706492 756580 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 
< 1391706552 156775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia
< 1391706591 225612 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see the queue machine thing i made up?
< 1391706630 320656 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like the kind of thing you are capable of proving things about and i am woefully poor at
< 1391706870 206872 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I didn't
< 1391706873 775240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a link?
< 1391706949 328435 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of links related to it, but all discussion happened right here yesterday .... would have been about 6pm UTC
< 1391706976 503438 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to make a wiki article but haven't decided on a name yet :P
< 1391707279 940689 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1391707339 125060 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391708241 904210 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1391708721 98353 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-159.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391708936 584572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it is among a small group of people, and they have grown tired of it
< 1391709334 250280 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-159.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
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< 1391709484 445667 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: boily: int-e: which name do you like the best: Copper, Resplicate, Pocopure
< 1391709742 282436 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia!
< 1391709745 660915 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :resplicate.
< 1391709805 905912 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like res publica. the Res Plicate: the Thing of the Plic.
< 1391709838 425632 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I'm glad that your brain was memetised :D
< 1391709906 67909 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-159.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1391710145 564594 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's a chimæra actually. a portmanteau of slice, replicate, and splice
< 1391710440 941472 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you call a device that does the same thing over and over, and the thing it does may or may not be capable of arbitrary computation
< 1391710480 785217 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fractran is an example, but the wiki describes it as a "computational model" presumably because it is known to be capable of arbitrary computation
< 1391710538 159117 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm maybe computational model is what i want
< 1391710556 266521 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391710660 572760 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/thing.png
< 1391710831 67369 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you just design the logo of Resplicate?
< 1391710840 442969 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I approve
< 1391710858 859571 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: :D :D :D :D
< 1391710915 960812 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :while waiting for that to load i became aware of just how crazy the temporal dithering of my monitor on the particular shade of grey firefox uses is
< 1391710942 600549 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :temporal dithering?
< 1391710959 518308 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines palette dithering techniques applied to the time dimension. “ow.”
< 1391710991 359716 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's that
< 1391711092 276568 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... that is vile.
< 1391711385 955706 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just generalised PCM.
< 1391711393 209470 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391711409 648035 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't notice the temporal dithering on my laptop unless I look really closely
< 1391711423 284575 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think my old laptop actually does any temporal dithering at all
< 1391711466 278260 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add a low pass filter (like rod cells and nerves) and you won't notice a thing.
< 1391711466 900208 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-159.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391711906 958675 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to wikify images floating to the right of the text
< 1391711917 1660 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I like Copper best
< 1391711947 737616 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: are you going to vote?
< 1391711949 256051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also [[Image:foo|thumb|right|description]] IIRC, but I haven't done it for ages
< 1391711957 312156 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there may be minor mistakes there
< 1391711961 524839 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles the heretic-ais523 away “Long Live Resplicate!”
< 1391711974 854275 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i have to
< 1391712036 217948 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: i mean are you going to vote on the name of the queue game/computational model/language thing
< 1391712048 342505 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: which name do you like the best: Copper, Resplicate, Pocopure
< 1391712070 621225 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think nooodl 'has to' vote for Pocopure
< 1391712089 568628 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: FireFly: how are you voting
< 1391712091 804739 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-159.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1391712154 207197 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Resplicate.
< 1391712157 538214 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too
< 1391712176 343979 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391712218 975597 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also has the best logo. but Copper is the name of my dog, and i have a picture of him wearing my mustache which could also be a good logo!
< 1391712270 5315 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You make a convincing argument
< 1391712292 475840 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome spiette 
< 1391712293 539406 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :08spiette: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02irc.dal.net.)
< 1391712322 200185 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Voting for?
< 1391712655 813884 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: quintopia seems frozen.
< 1391712660 547271 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KATL
< 1391712661 37771 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 061752Z 00000KT 10SM BKN140 BKN200 BKN250 05/M04 A3026 RMK AO2 SLP256 T00501044 10050 21017 58012
< 1391712669 454177 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: at least, refrigerated.
< 1391713528 169093 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-159.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391713535 181917 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
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< 1391714132 25398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK
< 1391714132 609795 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 061850Z VRB02KT 8000 NSC M10/M11 Q1003 NOSIG
< 1391714171 535229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSC indeed.
< 1391714229 497290 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL
< 1391714229 749385 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 061900Z 22011KT 30SM FEW020 FEW120 BKN220 M12/M18 A3024 RMK CF1AC1CI4 CF TR SLP242
< 1391714231 919255 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went out and took a picture of the moon, and indeed there were No Significant Clouds.
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< 1391714309 795947 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~foobar
< 1391714309 975786 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi
< 1391714441 128545 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curiously enough, the phase of the moon turned out -- completely by coincidence -- to be pretty much exactly the same it was in 2009 when I did the same thing on a previous camera: just shot the moon with no telescopes or whatnots.
< 1391714645 602550 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I badly photographed the moon a few years ago: http://boily.deviantart.com/art/Fuzzy-super-harvest-moon-180200524
< 1391714746 202300 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Here's my old and new ones: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140206-mooncomp.jpg
< 1391714822 671407 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiny!
< 1391714843 361668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can almost see the US flag! (Not really.)
< 1391716031 657684 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that raised an interesting question. cf. http://www.rocketroberts.com/astro/flag_on_moon.htm
< 1391716149 2488 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-159.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391716308 501997 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-159.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1391716510 853407 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to prove there's a flag on the moon from the earth?
< 1391716538 513888 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it count if you send (from the Earth) some kind of a thing up there that sends back pictures? 
< 1391716558 616315 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on what proof you need ... can you even prove that the moon exists from the earth?
< 1391716562 207106 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shine a very bright laser on the flag. if it bursts up, then there was one.
< 1391716580 410196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do the "bounce a laser through the retroreflectors" experiment quite often, AIUI.
< 1391716581 982266 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems int-e's link is about exactly this
< 1391716601 834503 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though that only proves there's something retroreflectorey up there, and not a flag.
< 1391716651 110138 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's a specific place on the moon that retroreflects?
< 1391716661 324712 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like some kind of proof that someone's been there at least
< 1391716682 390230 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo 'The Moon is an unprovable celestial object that is not very retroreflectorey.' >wisdom/moon
< 1391716682 951759 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'The Moon is an unprovable celestial object that is not very retroreflectorey.' >wisdom/moon
< 1391716684 962603 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how narrow a beam they shoot.
< 1391716688 89929 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'The Moon is an unprovable celestial object that is not very retroreflectorey.' >wisdom/moon
< 1391716689 546248 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391716700 794747 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I suppose they do target one of the reflectors when doing that.
< 1391716703 884281 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the people who doubt space travel aren't the same people who own space lasers
< 1391716704 970185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's several of them.)
< 1391716715 239243 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :retroreflexive?
< 1391716735 445867 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The typical red laser pointer is about 5 milliwatts, and a good one has a tight enough beam to actually hit the Moon—though it’d be spread out over a large fraction of the surface when it got there." http://what-if.xkcd.com/13/
< 1391716749 938595 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Yes, and the "proof" comes in from of a computer screen where slowly a hump becomes visible in a graph.
< 1391716768 930456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: So obviously the scienceperson doing the experiment is just faking it.
< 1391716772 471717 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you need a better laser. oh and plenty of power to be able to actually see any of the reflected light.)
< 1391716791 602069 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but in theory, you could do the experiment from scratch in your own home
< 1391716795 630195 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have moneys
< 1391716805 181691 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no?
< 1391716826 363522 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suppose. The moneys and the expertise, that is.
< 1391716849 868938 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems unlikely that people find out that you're using the lasers you buy to check for retroreflectors and rig them to shoot lasers that retroreflect from stone if they are being shot toward the moon
< 1391716870 155605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the moon landing hoax debunk pages list evidence like that; I think there's photos from moon-orbiting satellites that show some of the landing sites.
< 1391716900 891479 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings
< 1391716927 115665 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course that's just evidence that the conspiracy is larger.)
< 1391716979 962094 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cocoonspirator
< 1391716980 810837 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cocoonspirator is a collaborator wrapped in caterpillar silk
< 1391717002 855372 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coonspirator
< 1391717003 453663 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coonspirator? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1391717010 377890 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? racoonspirator
< 1391717011 37043 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A racoonspirator is a collaborator wrapped in fur
< 1391717030 26811 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Moon Landings are a mystery wrapped in an enigma wrapped in cosmic butterflies.
< 1391717036 363898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo 'A coonspirator is a colloquial term for a racoonspirator' > wisdom/coonspirator
< 1391717037 9982 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'A coonspirator is a colloquial term for a racoonspirator' > wisdom/coonspirator
< 1391717042 155880 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'A coonspirator is a colloquial term for a racoonspirator' > wisdom/coonspirator
< 1391717043 642481 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391717064 15571 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'A coonspirator is caterpillar silk wrapped in collaborators.' > wisdom/coonspirator
< 1391717065 443021 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391717087 199102 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to go with int-e for that one.
< 1391717107 287159 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? conspirabiology
< 1391717107 962628 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conspirabiology is where moth colourings form a dot matrix display to send you subliminal messages.
< 1391717145 905326 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a cococoonspirator
< 1391717189 199763 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and conspirabiology moths are probably postcocoonspirators
< 1391717234 985766 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should subliminatically inspire the Crawl devs to include Conspirabiology Moths in the next release :D
< 1391717253 64183 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now that Suppression Moths are to be removed. bummer.)
< 1391717254 81466 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1391717313 450161 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't "cocaterpillar silk wrapped in llaborators" how oyou're supposed to make that terrible joke,
< 1391717407 951423 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think co is like negation and something similar to demorgan's rule applies, but how to apply it is ... not always obvious
< 1391717420 188999 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not everything flips all the time
< 1391717441 847894 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: the opposite category has the same objects as the original one. only the arrows are inverted.
< 1391717466 300945 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and co-properties are usually properties in the opposite category.
< 1391718006 776906 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: help
< 1391718194 623988 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chelloppro.
< 1391718235 20745 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello coppro
< 1391718235 591824 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello
< 1391718250 551649 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, did I do something wrong?
< 1391718258 279054 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't haskell
< 1391718265 738343 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, who can
< 1391718265 918107 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello coppro
< 1391718266 612045 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copprello
< 1391718277 947850 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing `hello is GNU hello
< 1391718279 923541 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello -h
< 1391718280 552976 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello
< 1391718281 829141 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can you haskell
< 1391718282 47815 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: we all knew that already... with pattern matching). its a program which used packrat.
< 1391718285 883559 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not
< 1391718296 507341 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hello
< 1391718297 82700 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Hello
< 1391718299 942625 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: clearly. They even know how to pattern-match
< 1391718309 391494 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is reasoning about haskell designs so goddamn hard
< 1391718325 113759 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I think fungot's an it
< 1391718325 293473 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it would be not starting the homework until it is needed. :p anyway, the test is easy to use with w3m? w3?
< 1391718339 58889 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay
< 1391718345 992740 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just like using singular they
< 1391718353 793837 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391718370 105740 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have noticed them FireFly do like they, they do
< 1391718409 339487 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you low-pass your retina?
< 1391718409 519100 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ( open file ' ./linguine/ linguine.py': errno 13 permission denied
< 1391718421 722354 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sure.
< 1391718421 902073 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm robert fnord. here take a piece of freenode furniture
< 1391718463 358749 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. This channel could use some more furniture
< 1391718543 218724 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  I'm Robert Fnord. Here, take a piece of freenode furniture.
< 1391718543 398205 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ok i loaded srfi 13 now. i should have no syntax errors: lisp! :)
< 1391718544 738347 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1166)  I'm Robert Fnord. Here, take a piece of freenode furniture.
< 1391718607 151005 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(eval (read fungot))
< 1391718607 405812 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yes, somewhat. the s-expr version would take about a page of elisp tutorial
< 1391718630 764944 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you the George Foreman of furniture now?
< 1391718630 981940 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: mmm. so good :)
< 1391718636 135849 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it must be!
< 1391718636 392242 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: same thing. the only pleasing parts of the file. what exactly are those continuations that multi passes?
< 1391718648 975733 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I don't understand continuations.
< 1391718649 155491 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: everything? :o) where
< 1391718657 921868 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: in Haskell. they hurt my brain.
< 1391718658 101684 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if you want the with-alist. code?
< 1391718668 760635 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: there is a list?
< 1391718732 475328 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shakes fungot “WHERE IS THE LIST?”
< 1391718774 822750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that bot has flood control
< 1391718781 120883 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll stop responding to any given person after a while
< 1391718796 40505 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily apparently doesn't have flood control
< 1391718803 373653 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you hate boily 
< 1391718803 556320 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: did the glass suffer damage? :) ( of course, i could
< 1391718805 436228 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know. I just like molesting bots.
< 1391718815 344599 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote damn your mother
< 1391718816 44928 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :950) * fungot has joined #esoteric   woohoo! the one and only fungot is back!   boily: damn your mother!   ok. never saw that one coming.
< 1391718828 986223 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: fungot could hate you!
< 1391718829 165812 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: in theory, you could simply enter a new definition
< 1391718846 499670 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just redefine boily and everything will be fine
< 1391718849 449944 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in theory, that is)
< 1391718869 470743 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't be redefined! that is categorically unthausible.
< 1391718880 554946 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily := fungot
< 1391718880 786542 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i guess :) i haven't found them.) is very difficult for math people to let go of sysrq but not of the form
< 1391718902 895025 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let begin c = c []; push xs x c = c (x:xs); bin (?) (a:b:xs) c = c (b?a:xs); add = bin (+); sub = bin (-); end [v] = v in begin push 1 push 2 push 4 add sub push 3 sub end
< 1391718904 334543 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: a0 = t0 -> a0
< 1391718904 514217 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: [a0]
< 1391718904 514364 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   Actual type: [t0 -> a0]
< 1391718919 447835 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. monomorphism etc.
< 1391718931 456820 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval let begin c = c []; push xs x c = c (x:xs); bin (?) (a:b:xs) c = c (b?a:xs); add = bin (+); sub = bin (-); end [v] = v in begin push 1 push 2 push 4 add sub push 3 sub end
< 1391718934 236922 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): 
< 1391718937 314680 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval let begin c = c []; push xs x c = c (x:xs); bin (?) (a:b:xs) c = c (b?a:xs); add = bin (+); sub = bin (-); end [v] = v in begin push 1 push 2 push 4 add sub push 3 sub end
< 1391718938 685135 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: a0 = t0 -> a0
< 1391718938 865227 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expected type: [a0]
< 1391718938 865377 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Actual type: [t0 -> a0]
< 1391718964 83594 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read something about the next GHC disabling MR by default, so it seems finally the future is here
< 1391718978 312736 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/
< 1391718978 857547 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |
< 1391718979 37256 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 >\
< 1391718980 894127 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let begin c = c []; push xs x c = c (x:xs); bin (?) (a:b:xs) c = c (b? a:xs); add = bin (+); sub = bin (-); end [v] = v in begin push 1 push 2 push 4 add sub push 3 sub end
< 1391718982 75598 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -8
< 1391718983 106730 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate
< 1391718983 285915 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/
< 1391718983 673171 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´69   | c.c.c |   `\o/´69  ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c |
< 1391718983 852854 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/<  c.c  >\ /| |   |    /|  c.c  |\    |     >\|/|  c.c /|
< 1391718984 632705 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               (_|¯´¯|_)              /'\
< 1391718984 838731 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                    (_| |_)
< 1391718989 662770 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot
< 1391719015 241654 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the c.c thing supposed to be
< 1391719015 734166 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            c.c.c
< 1391719015 913633 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             c.c
< 1391719016 93279 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :implicit arguments make b?a a function application.
< 1391719021 640172 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (?)
< 1391719022 725229 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `?'
< 1391719037 692205 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: a multiocular o, I believe
< 1391719039 392060 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: bin (?) ... <-- it was an argument name.
< 1391719047 749792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: it's a combination of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiocular_O and the "c.c" emotiwhatever
< 1391719048 355758 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh.
< 1391719056 105277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is like "eyes looking away in vague disapproval"
< 1391719069 605384 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what it is?
< 1391719073 366140 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/ghc/ghc/commit/5bda0d08d8fec86433917b65a93836d2372a5b5c
< 1391719082 522238 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only says ghci though
< 1391719184 775397 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I misdiagnosed the problem anyway
< 1391719353 379283 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case it'd be MonoLocalBinds I think. But it wasn't :)
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< 1391720033 684460 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 768*3
< 1391720034 732087 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2304
< 1391720095 201567 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 48^2
< 1391720096 525320 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2304
< 1391720173 20489 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 2 ** 8 * 3 ** 2
< 1391720173 897045 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2304.0
< 1391720212 987387 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 2^8 * 3^2
< 1391720213 816424 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2304
< 1391720225 834342 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 2 ** 2 ** 3 * 3 ** 2
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< 1391720252 407428 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t map
< 1391720253 381317 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> b) -> [a] -> [b]
< 1391720259 762569 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@define
< 1391720260 108171 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Define what?
< 1391720270 61513 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t map map map
< 1391720271 47762 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Couldn't match expected type `[a0 -> b0]'
< 1391720271 227755 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                with actual type `(a1 -> b1) -> [a1] -> [b1]'
< 1391720271 227897 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    In the second argument of `map', namely `map'
< 1391720272 664402 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you define a function in lambdabot again?
< 1391720276 726417 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap fmap fmap
< 1391720277 827257 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Functor f, Functor f1) => (a -> b) -> f (f1 a) -> f (f1 b)
< 1391720282 558082 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap
< 1391720283 535456 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Functor f, Functor f1, Functor f2) => f (a -> b) -> f (f1 (f2 a) -> f1 (f2 b))
< 1391720287 892194 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let
< 1391720288 71412 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Define what?
< 1391720297 507668 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks int-e
< 1391720298 88060 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, int-e. Thint-e.
< 1391720302 431493 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :At some point adding more fmaps loops you around to an earlier state
< 1391720319 749768 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@define boily = 42
< 1391720321 148398 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1391720326 980877 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that works, too
< 1391720342 980432 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I thought I mentioned that I wasn't to be redefined, you fiendish scalliwag.
< 1391720353 294061 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undef
< 1391720353 503582 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined.
< 1391720369 461565 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let factorMap = fromList . map (head &&& length) . group . primeFactors
< 1391720370 221032 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:142:13:
< 1391720370 400892 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Not in scope: `fromList'
< 1391720370 401057 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Perhaps you meant one of these:
< 1391720370 401147 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :       `IM.fromList' (imported from Data.IntMap),
< 1391720370 401236 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :       `M.fromList' (imported from Data.Map),
< 1391720377 729635 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let factorMap = M.fromList . map (head &&& length) . group . primeFactors
< 1391720378 519200 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:143:50: Not in scope: `primeFactors'
< 1391720383 871108 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah c'mon...
< 1391720396 25659 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let import Data.Numbers.Primes
< 1391720396 679471 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:96:1:
< 1391720396 895333 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Failed to load interface for `Data.Numbers.Primes'
< 1391720397 74448 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Perhaps you meant Data.Number.Fixed (from numbers-3000.2.0.0)
< 1391720397 74662 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Use -v to see a list of the files searched for.
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< 1391725218 621384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1391726271 92276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `run echo 'A thausiblee is the recipient of a thausible action.' >wisdom/thausiblee <--  that could have been done with `learn
< 1391726345 904634 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn
< 1391726346 456222 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/learn: No such file or directory
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< 1391727610 756275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Curiously enough, the phase of the moon turned out -- completely by coincidence [...] <-- surely that particular phase has the effect of making you want to photograph the moon hth
< 1391727774 948263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily `learn now removes english articles hth
< 1391727775 302667 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1391727812 904751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? szoup
< 1391727813 584518 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A szoup a szilárd tápszereknek híg alakban való elkészítése a célból, hogy könnyebben emészthetők legyenek; a hígító anyag a viz, mely feloldja s magába veszi a tápanyag legértékesebb részeit.
< 1391727820 270513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also one hungarian one
< 1391727971 397684 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1391728171 458456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : it seems unlikely that people find out that you're using the lasers you buy to check for retroreflectors and rig them to shoot lasers that retroreflect from stone if they are being shot toward the moon
< 1391728217 435810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say the idea someone can make lasers that retroreflect from a non-manmade substance is a conspiracy in itself.
< 1391728225 961588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+theory
< 1391728872 174425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gaszpacho
< 1391728872 928215 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaszpacho is a polish soup, traditionally szerved cold for hot szummer days
< 1391728972 608784 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1391729030 72161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1146
< 1391729030 589708 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1146)  OKAY
< 1391729036 366443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1391729039 905509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1166
< 1391729040 448485 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1166)  I'm Robert Fnord. Here, take a piece of freenode furniture.
< 1391729050 720406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cannot remember a number for five seconds
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< 1391729104 684345 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`qoteadd  `quote 1146   1146)  OKAY
< 1391729105 265089 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: qoteadd: not found
< 1391729105 739274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 1166
< 1391729107 301004 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*poof*  I'm Robert Fnord. Here, take a piece of freenode furniture.
< 1391729112 385971 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1391729128 858924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  boily: i'm robert fnord. here take a piece of freenode furniture
< 1391729129 76767 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i never understood method decorators... monkey prostates. the problem is of course true. and yet it does
< 1391729130 603889 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1166)  boily: i'm robert fnord. here take a piece of freenode furniture
< 1391729139 353845 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1391729145 17574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats olsner for fake quoting -----###
< 1391729167 548520 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yeah, me neither
< 1391729167 727850 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: sorry. seems the changes i propose:
< 1391729294 69146 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`‍ad‍dq‍uo‍te‍ * oerjan loves olsner to fake quoting <3<3<3<3
< 1391729406 879964 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  `quote 1146   1146)  OKAY
< 1391729408 432272 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1167)  `quote 1146   1146)  OKAY
< 1391729424 345513 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling that one won't stay for too long
< 1391729724 178351 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391730638 509894 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391731340 704205 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rifers.org/03_numberguess/src/
< 1391731357 744710 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly what I want to see when I click to browse example source code for a web framework
< 1391731444 847756 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1391732361 628484 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks enterprisey
< 1391732532 453849 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's trying to translate a cool concept to an enterprisey language
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< 1391735133 406439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scott aaronson sarcasts on science journalism (scroll to the MAGIC 8-BALL) http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1679
< 1391736060 104863 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :funnily enough i saw him extensively quoted in some pop sci today
< 1391736091 166331 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I am game programming in Haskell
< 1391736092 562761 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lpaste.net/99581
< 1391736098 560630 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i've been watching the status of parallel matlab jobs through windows task manager.
< 1391736126 302217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well he was quoted in the thing he's blogging about, too
< 1391736171 681642 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh
< 1391736188 368140 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i read was a basic "holy shit, halting problem!" thing
< 1391736229 550061 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1391736238 534485 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :just noticed I've been writing my lambdas backwards
< 1391736268 25665 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the end quote. something like "it's good to know electronic brains can't be perfect"
< 1391736310 467360 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what's with the "fmap Right"s
< 1391736365 872073 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, in theory I could instead do a Left thingy which would be treated as a sort of "missing value" error by netwire
< 1391736761 594675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i should figure out how people solve yao's millionaire problem
< 1391737683 934314 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Smokers will need to fetch an older copy of cigarettes.txt from CVS after October 1st  "
< 1391737700 687100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i get it
< 1391737701 913261 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem!
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< 1391739683 966245 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: you're no help
< 1391741710 7309 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1391741829 713224 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Stream b = SCons (b, Stream b)
< 1391741834 453010 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why a tuple?
< 1391741848 337498 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than two arguments to SCons?
< 1391742161 541274 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, fine, makes sense
< 1391742976 789451 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note that this has nothing to do with execution. printFibN does not execute a print statement. No more than writing printFibN on a piece of paper will cause it to magically evaluate."
< 1391743002 427782 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if that will catch on as a description
< 1391743022 527330 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like if it did, that would be some damn useful paper, though
< 1391743939 405535 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone remember which language of ais523 is the one where there's like a table of memory cells and the only instruction is like copy the contents of that one to this one and jump to that other one?
< 1391744026 613491 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: lol at that quote. "perfect" meaning "omniscient" I guess?
< 1391744065 223773 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something silly
< 1391744144 961950 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By slaying the mythical loop snooper, Turing taught us that there are fundamental limits to what computers can do. We all have our limits, and in a way it's comforting to know that the artificial brains that we create will always have theirs too."
< 1391744160 425936 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[whatever] brain is such a shitty word for computers, grr
< 1391744631 420329 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"let's call the subset of computers which aren't brains [blah] brains! so the all computers are brains, yay!"
< 1391744663 897571 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's okay as long as [blah] is Matryoshka
< 1391744742 606966 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only because those are so sci-fi it doesn't matter.
< 1391744846 512064 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's my best reword: "it's good to know that things which are made out of stuff in this universe will always be incapable of doing things which are impossible in this universe."
< 1391745159 541794 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no am I going to start watching these now?
< 1391745161 210929 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/playlist?annotation_id=annotation_3883136257&feature=iv&list=PL4NL9i-Fu15hhYGB-d0hmSWD1fcIvLvn1&src_vid=oOGJQD0WXkk
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< 1391746697 518595 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: a paper on occurence typing: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/racket/pubs/icfp10-thf.pdf
< 1391746912 88593 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although really, the use of such predicates often makes me uncomfortable
< 1391746920 804847 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like it indicates someone likely doing something silly
< 1391747542 757350 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly... or extraordinary?
< 1391747678 432954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the goggles do nothing
< 1391749015 961675 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ?
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< 1391751568 295244 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: OHSHIT NOT THE BLINKY TEXT
< 1391751597 483599 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't show on this term, i really should fix this stupid thing
< 1391751602 25577 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean use something else.
< 1391751758 140584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do that again
< 1391751925 282108 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^F
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< 1391751968 339199 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :test
< 1391751973 402576 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet.
< 1391751992 145718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too bad you can't adjust the phase
< 1391751999 714929 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sawtooth wave
< 1391752080 379212 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably some term somewhere that let you feed analog functions to the monitorssss
< 1391753340 414205 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god not this again
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< 1391758286 162444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK
< 1391758294 931339 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah.
< 1391758321 475241 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to see the VISIBILITY, it is very FOGGY here.
< 1391758605 240217 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 070720Z 12005KT 0200 R04R/0550N R15/0375N R22L/0550N R04L/0500N FZFG VV001 M03/M03 Q1003 TEMPO 0600
< 1391758679 517770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So FZFGgy.
< 1391758701 170071 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can ask dirac for the weather. dirac is online usually and prints human-readable weather.
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< 1391759501 744785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION !important;
< 1391759572 116096 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's just something about them METARs.
< 1391759679 142623 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Amazon has a Kindle edition of The Reasoned Schemer, but B&N doesn't have an epub version
< 1391759693 655396 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that going to be a trend, or is that just me rationalizing having gotten a Kindle?
< 1391759728 672444 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote metar
< 1391759729 576269 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :994)  metar lead to canada, more metar and cows
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< 1391761081 898745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"make: stat: GNUmakefile: Transport endpoint is not connected"   huh
< 1391761098 25098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's just a disconnected sshfs thing, never mind.
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< 1391762257 628528 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay ResPlicate page posted
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< 1391769771 76233 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I just found a ResPlicate sequence that goes 12850 cycles before deleting itself! how are you?
< 1391769784 974507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not doing great, but I'll survive
< 1391769791 644439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's an interesting language
< 1391769829 250330 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: feel better!
< 1391769833 832101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't "broken" it in terms of TCness yet, although my first thoughts are a) try to avoid the same queue element being used for both a length and a repeat count if possible, b) try to simulate a tag system
< 1391769915 70959 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well that first condition is easy to meet. just make sure all the odd numbered elements of the sequence are even numbers :)
< 1391769931 271044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yep, that's why I thought of it
< 1391769931 451011 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and that there is an even number of numbers in the sequence)
< 1391769937 512350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems trivial and make reasoning about the language much easier
< 1391769969 494331 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems to do much more interesting things when you let them be odd :P
< 1391770379 982244 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: besides yourself, what's your short list of "esolang experts"
< 1391770409 167335 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oerjan's highest on the list, he's better at it than I am
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< 1391770447 312516 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I improved your ResPlicate interpreter and am having so much fun I can't go to sleep
< 1391770474 836882 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1391770487 783056 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: really? I would have had a tough time deciding between you two. And maybe John Conway also.
< 1391770501 687864 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw i think Resplicate looks better than ResPlicate
< 1391770510 242016 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO LATE
< 1391770552 91298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, the problem with trying to program in ResPlicate is that you don't have any external source of data, copying is the /only/ way to make the string longer
< 1391770608 61532 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. if you want a number in there, you better start with it in there.
< 1391770654 281256 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to keep it in there too. that's even harder.
< 1391770730 655309 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: the sequence family 6 3 10 1 6 2 2k+1 1 is amaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing. try it!
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< 1391772645 539983 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i don't see the pattern i think
< 1391773283 133164 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: there's no pattern! that's what's so great! most of them delete themselves, some of them become all-twos, and a few grow.
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< 1391775211 222844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : sounds like if it did, that would be some damn useful paper, though <-- note to future logreaders: back when this was written, most paper was _not_ ... heck we haven't even decided what to call it yet.
< 1391775260 497141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, google and wikipedia were most unhelpful.
< 1391775278 543406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it's just called smart paper.
< 1391775283 589102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.
< 1391775290 249368 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I have a plan for proving resplicate TC already, not sure if it works or not though
< 1391775296 481124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :future logreaders: see fizzie ^
< 1391775313 416213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Source: Neal Stephenson, "The Diamond Age".)
< 1391775377 930480 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well i could already visualize how a tag system might be shaped, but it wasn't readily apparent how to do some parts of it
< 1391775384 205038 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm ready to hear what you've got
< 1391775391 618589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not ready to explain it yet though
< 1391775426 974015 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i'll go back to not sleeping and reading about bytebeat
< 1391775448 409935 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the things I'm bad at is converting thoughts into a medium that other people can understand
< 1391775457 119284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can normally manage it eventually, but it takes a while
< 1391775487 561982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it seems similar to Self BCT? although with the ability to handle somewhat larger sequences in one step.
< 1391775505 177895 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not really, doesn't self BCT have two pointers?
< 1391775519 549106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe.
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< 1391776848 781098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i cannot compete with conway, i've fought him and lost.
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< 1391777396 558373 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Authors retain the right to use the accepted author manuscript for personal use, internal institutional use and for permitted scholarly posting provided that these are not for purposes of commercial use or systematic distribution." "Systematic distribution means: policies or other mechanisms designed to aggregate and openly disseminate, or to substitute for journal-provided services --"
< 1391777515 457009 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this why faculty websites always look unsystematic
< 1391777547 929210 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps.
< 1391777596 552164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also any "Institutional, funding body or government manuscript posting policies or mandates that aim to aggregate and openly distribute the work by its researchers or funded researchers", no matter how haphazardly implemented, count as "systematic distribution".
< 1391777659 90600 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :researchers or funded researchers
< 1391777679 909430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I noticed that too.
< 1391777825 786180 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it could imply that it considers policies that apply to researchers, or policies that apply to funded researchers. (As a corollary, a policy that applies to "all researchers except this one guy" would then not be systematic distribution.)
< 1391777986 181319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The "loophole" person, whose work would not be included, could be an annually changing position.)
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< 1391779347 33707 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good unmechanical morning!
< 1391779356 760248 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud
< 1391779357 214325 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 14h 19m 41s ago: `learn now removes english articles hth
< 1391779367 540836 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: shiny!
< 1391779373 944256 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supershiny.
< 1391779397 662319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Why don't you do an AI-complete fact database thing? 
< 1391779398 174921 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this is too stupid to talk to my roommate this fall who's into public sex, lose any aesthetic sense as it is
< 1391779411 270324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay.
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< 1391779481 256043 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... actually a sensible reason.
< 1391779503 239056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess even bots can be affected by public sexing roommates.
< 1391779566 651033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bit puzzled about it, though, since fungot's hardware is in our apartment, and we're not into public sex at all.
< 1391779566 830506 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes. but not planning writing actually.)) be ()
< 1391779681 621980 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: we're not in the Fall season yet. maybe fungot's planning to go study abroad or something?
< 1391779681 802732 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: when placed on each
< 1391779691 295909 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: on each what?
< 1391779691 522491 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: finally a sane network topology with the firewall physically between local network and internet... no esoteric)
< 1391779719 707630 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that confirms my theory. he's going to MIT to study network topologies between firewalls.
< 1391779747 869029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Have you been sending fake student exchange applications again? 
< 1391779750 287886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ar.
< 1391779753 779917 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ^ 
< 1391779754 36309 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: something like fnord should execute the handler, so it would be
< 1391779975 438492 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, me neither. I didn't send fake student exchange applications again.
< 1391779993 277860 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nothing is like fnord.
< 1391779993 817764 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what is your native language?)... that made it difficult.
< 1391780002 813978 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: French. I know it makes everything difficult.
< 1391780003 194106 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: last time what? scheme hardly has any guterals, although the universities now have changed to an ascii value.
< 1391780010 645930 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck guteral
< 1391780010 943399 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information
< 1391780022 114892 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. what is a guteral, and its ASCII value?
< 1391780032 142691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably a misspelling of guttural
< 1391780047 406269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and indeed scheme has none
< 1391780279 574570 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gutenberg" would be a good unit for amount of written text.
< 1391780296 820466 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pharyngealizes C0 and C1 codes “FF US NUL GS OSC *cough*”
< 1391780313 964923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 Gutenberg equals the amount of material in Project Gutenberg. Er, except now that I think of it, it's not a very stable unit.
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< 1391781506 546187 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh?
< 1391781517 349814 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: did you accidentaly lambdabot?
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< 1391784731 477610 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I hear fungot's going abroad
< 1391784731 733810 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: are you even asking me this? snakes fnord with human evolution? somewhere in between them
< 1391784776 416060 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very knowledgeable in biology, I hear
< 1391784898 883624 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391784955 247572 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A friend of mine told me today that I am now in the Turing tarpit. I had to google that up to realize that I'm on the right track with SPAM/1 ^__^
< 1391784957 710307 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome utkarsh 
< 1391784958 550286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :09utkarsh: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06irc.dal.net.)
< 1391784980 168727 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jellohnnie! good tarpitual morning!
< 1391784981 831250 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnnie: tarpits are a large category of esolangs
< 1391784986 303669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime Johnnie 
< 1391784987 654733 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Johnnie is Fri Feb 07 09:59:36 2014
< 1391785000 937425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one of the categories that more commonly produces interesting research
< 1391785005 174795 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had forgotten it's a global community.
< 1391785026 704370 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had no idea, but I'm gathering this is a really good thing.
< 1391785030 949482 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnnie: I think I can ask you the The Question: what are your approximate geographic coördinates and body weigh?
< 1391785045 816795 :utkarsh!utkarsh@unaffiliated/utkarsh PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello everyone
< 1391785052 764033 :utkarsh!utkarsh@unaffiliated/utkarsh PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup
< 1391785058 597612 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soup.
< 1391785070 716916 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...body weight?
< 1391785107 350511 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you typoed The Question
< 1391785120 834285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that it's an interesting question, IMO
< 1391785139 792501 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did?
< 1391785154 197664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnnie: no, you did nothing wrong
< 1391785163 48771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is just a stupid meme that I'd love it if it had died ages ago
< 1391785173 940520 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never thought I did, ais523. I'm actually quite pleased. ^__^
< 1391785177 628313 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's actually meant to be body weigh
< 1391785179 764053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: when this channel is discussing esolangs, please discuss esolangs :_)
< 1391785181 375128 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo "meant"
< 1391785192 485235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: what's with the double underscore these days?
< 1391785202 975551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not worried about impersonation because I can tell it's you in two lines
< 1391785208 527318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I am a little confused
< 1391785225 512139 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My language, SPAM/1 is about technologies that died ages ago ^__^
< 1391785225 819691 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com NICK :elliott_________
< 1391785240 24914 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for my coords: 32°47′00″N 79°56′00″W
< 1391785390 130399 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And body weigh....under two bags of cement.
< 1391785440 271242 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(using the hundredweight measurement)
< 1391785570 754642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's far too accurate for me _not_ to paste into google maps.
< 1391785588 583199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only accurate to the nearest minute
< 1391785602 447055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm good point
< 1391785603 590873 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's okay, I snatched it off of Wikipedia.
< 1391785627 516121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well it's pretty close to a college...
< 1391785656 995036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a starbucks.
< 1391785709 811764 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's funny!
< 1391785731 639642 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd thought Wikipedia would use coords close to the Harbour.
< 1391785756 291459 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia probably just rounded to the nearest minute
< 1391785774 815431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much _is_ a minute anyway.
< 1391785776 829861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :link for me to click on: http://esolangs.org/wiki/ResPlicate
< 1391785790 559091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1/(60*360) of the Earth's circumference
< 1391785805 748766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 40000/(60*360)
< 1391785807 312079 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.8518518518518519
< 1391785830 393831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at any meridian, it equals one nautical mile exactly
< 1391785837 316007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for latitude, anyway.
< 1391785841 632940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1391785850 855544 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A man wanted to talk to me about Jesus, at the bus stop in front of the CS building. That was *so* un-Finnish.
< 1391785853 232726 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says 1852m by definition
< 1391785911 512580 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a nautical mile
< 1391785923 444159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say the harbour is on the border of plausible rounding range
< 1391785945 865464 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other words: close enough.
< 1391786031 755566 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strangeish to put the seconds in after rounding to minutes, but maybe it's convention.
< 1391786037 12665 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's not a typo. it's traditionnal to write “weigh”.
< 1391786058 959146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you actively trying to drive me from the channel agin?
< 1391786060 450524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*again
< 1391786076 14078 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I figured out the goal for the Wiki. I have no intention of implementing SPAM. But I want to document it enoough that implementation is entirely possible.
< 1391786081 952708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, even the Finnish, [...]"
< 1391786091 619467 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...enoough?....too many 'o's.
< 1391786124 550942 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sorry, I was in a meeting, and I answered before seeing your other reply. I will esolang when esolanging is happening.
< 1391786365 858826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i'm wondering how close resPlicate can emulate something Fueue-like, if you make sure all blocks have "statically" known lengths and you avoid explicit swapping (but maybe it can be simulated, like in underload)
< 1391786400 417940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still thinking about ResPlicate
< 1391786458 249766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the most minimalistic queue language we've had so far, i think
< 1391786466 143165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea of creating a tag system, using a dictionary of all necessary rule-pieces that gets copied around (as multiple copies) at regular intervals so that the rule-pieces can be extracted from it
< 1391786483 524499 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hmm, it sort-of competes with http://esolangs.org/wiki/DownRight (and cyclic tag) for the title of "minimalistic queue-language"
< 1391786589 930318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um it has no program/data separation, which i think is a big boost
< 1391786617 265740 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Norweigans ruled Britian under Cnut the Great and Sweyn Forkbeard...maybe the Finnish can rule the world under esolangs?
< 1391786643 550285 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't Knut danish?
< 1391786651 73874 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He probably was.
< 1391786663 743676 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Again, I was reading Wikipedia. 
< 1391787010 49573 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391787059 951356 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...fake diamonds that are glued to eyes of plastic cows?....I noticed that just now. XD
< 1391787184 446231 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. I'm off. See everyone later. Have a good weekend
< 1391787229 871383 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good spamming/1!
< 1391787231 304785 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
< 1391787785 863102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: program/data separation normally makes things easier rather than harder, but maybe not
< 1391787853 362848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes of course, but it makes it less minimalistic.
< 1391787896 567286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, my definition of "minimalistic" is "easy to implement in a range of ridiculously limited languages"
< 1391788435 762748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i think we shall have to agree to disagree :P
< 1391788458 21704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that is of course useful too
< 1391789072 7072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1391789163 235409 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1391789191 918299 :stalem!5eeaaa0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.234.170.11 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391789241 798409 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391789460 710608 :stalem!5eeaaa0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.234.170.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when every idea of a language has been invented, reinvented, mangled, modified and regurgitated; what left is there to do? create a new paradigm?
< 1391789582 292173 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Life's worthless, you mean to say?
< 1391789611 205357 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@109.163.230.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1391789621 419958 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idle on IRC
< 1391789691 958207 :stalem!5eeaaa0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.234.170.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm in a sense, yeah
< 1391789730 152527 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391789821 853291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stalem: creating new paradigms is what I really want to do
< 1391789823 317739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's hard
< 1391789841 619741 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :about the best I've managed in that direction is http://esolangs.org/wiki/Underload (which turned out to be pre-existing but niche)
< 1391789893 913104 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we live in a world were even crab-based computing exists. it's hard to come up with something new.
< 1391789899 850149 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391789939 704316 :stalem!5eeaaa0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.234.170.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah i've read that page multiple times. i bet it's a headache creating new paradigms, it's hard enough finding a good idea for a language. not to mention the amount of paradigms are getting to vast the possibilities must be getting drained
< 1391789954 824108 :stalem!5eeaaa0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.234.170.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? crab-based computer? like live crabs?
< 1391789967 335890 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1391789969 774349 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :language innovation wasn't that easy ten years ago, either
< 1391789970 429410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stalem: http://techland.time.com/2012/04/18/crab-computing-the-future-of-computers-powered-by-crabs-wait-what/
< 1391789981 313234 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_________: it's getting uneasier.
< 1391789982 346945 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what?
< 1391789987 380154 :stalem!5eeaaa0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.234.170.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the future of computers" lol
< 1391790013 338508 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shellokhin. long time no see!
< 1391790035 490056 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yeah, lost my auto-join list and then never added this channel back :-)
< 1391790035 669965 :stalem!5eeaaa0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.234.170.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an analog boid computer using crabs haha
< 1391790069 250962 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: But, recently, got involved with some fun stuff involing a couple of norttis and a couple of esoteric languages, so got back here.
< 1391790083 862077 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are multiples norttis???
< 1391790094 327511 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably; can't be sure.
< 1391790094 507416 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
< 1391790094 507555 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you looking for? fnord/ fnord/ fnord
< 1391791121 147088 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 QUIT :Quit: quit
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< 1391792013 933750 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone play with microcorruption.com ?
< 1391792178 882066 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an english word similar to "want" or "need" that takes both a noun without preposition or a verb without "to"? or can that not exist because it would cause ambiguities between noun and verb?
< 1391792251 545679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: hmm, I remember studying this sort of thing for grammartree
< 1391792280 594303 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needn't be a single word, it can be a phrase
< 1391792288 743849 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I want food" "I need food" works without preposition, but I think you need the "to" for verbs to make it "infinitive"
< 1391792315 178220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are verbs like "should" that don't take "to"
< 1391792324 834941 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1391792332 626323 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: yes, after a verbs like that you usually need either a to-infinitive or gerund
< 1391792332 923583 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they tend not to work with nouns
< 1391792336 886311 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: exactly
< 1391792352 110303 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "can has" take?
< 1391792371 39825 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i can has catnip?"
< 1391792377 65356 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“I want to food”.
< 1391792378 576157 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means "can I have" in cat talk
< 1391792394 852235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, verbs that appear in the portion of NetHack I converted to grammartree that take verbs without infinitives: can, had better, should, may
< 1391792405 66325 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but what form of verb, as in "I can has go out" or "I can has to go out" or "I can has going out"
< 1391792417 931130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some verbs take participles, or possibly gerunds: stop, like, see
< 1391792426 356475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "can has" is lolcat speak, not actual English
< 1391792439 817582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus it doesn't obey normal grammar rules
< 1391792443 94232 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, it wouldn't suit me because of that, I was wondering
< 1391792448 770156 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll check the lolcat bible
< 1391792450 621608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in fact the grammar is mostly made up on the pot
< 1391792452 150306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*spot
< 1391792459 66024 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no!
< 1391792466 914004 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some sort of consistency
< 1391792481 48921 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adb lolcat
< 1391792483 70299 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see http://lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=How_to_speak_lolcat and similar
< 1391792613 756182 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right! grammartree
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< 1391792622 897021 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: whatever happened to that
< 1391792648 634082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: we put it on hold because it was taking up all our time, we're planning to reintroduce it later but a bit at a time
< 1391792661 46357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like originally reserve it for the bits that benefit the most
< 1391792707 776534 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1391793214 990288 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/7451e31a-8f90-11e3-9cb0-00144feab7de.html wack, yo
< 1391793282 175162 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It requires registration.
< 1391793289 373429 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That thing wants me to sign up to read the article
< 1391793291 769078 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be able to read 8 articles per month
< 1391793324 839787 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they don't seem to do the nice thing of sending the webpage with an overlay covering the actual content
< 1391793329 933091 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ibm's thinking of selling their semiconductor division
< 1391793332 16464 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you plebs.
< 1391793384 895602 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1391793448 400762 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : int-e: did you accidentaly lambdabot?
< 1391793455 53819 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I didn't.
< 1391793530 672401 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just lost its connection to the server (aka ping timeout)
< 1391793843 145115 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah what should I have for dinner
< 1391793847 812314 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something quick to cook preferably
< 1391793876 160452 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I accidentally learnt pandoc when I wanted to learn rust
< 1391793879 633502 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://runciman.hacksoc.org/~taneb/Fibs.pdf
< 1391793896 12481 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :common mistake
< 1391793921 75549 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a turkey. here's an instructional video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4FSew0vmUQ
< 1391793976 882988 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :british thanksgiving is coming up, right
< 1391793996 368396 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Britain /has/ a Thankgiving
< 1391794069 197265 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a rude thing to say.
< 1391794137 903985 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw if anyone wants to critique the rust code in that pdf feel free to
< 1391794279 629705 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I still don't know what to have for dinner
< 1391794609 908967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: recently I've mostly been combining some sort of prepackaged chicken with some sort of prepackaged salad with some sort of prepackaged carbohydrate
< 1391794618 38489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get a lot of variations out of that, and it's pretty fast
< 1391794648 473257 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, are the west midlands 300 years into the future?
< 1391794656 609177 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1391794657 874457 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-16406.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391794659 7649 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :can confirm
< 1391795004 953347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well a chicken salad sandwich is all three of those at once
< 1391795015 351173 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not massively difficult to achieve
< 1391795023 272025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't live on /only/ those
< 1391795181 235046 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :man cannot live by chicken salad sandwiches alone
< 1391795276 108173 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :this private-use character renders funnily in my font: ''
< 1391795305 711988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this font it looks like a solid circle
< 1391795352 415076 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me it's a bunch of waves approx. 12 characters wide, which looks kind-of odd in a terminal
< 1391795450 102692 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1391795456 315232 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391795479 527316 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
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< 1391795672 148631 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1391796055 549517 :aergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-78-41.pptp.stw-bonn.de QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1391796072 738310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, it's a box.
< 1391796156 75426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though if I open the logs in a browser, it looks like... well, it looks like a very small uppercase A, on top of which (as a diacritic) there's a thing that looks vaguely like a small lambda.
< 1391796223 211763 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zooming in reveals that the diacritic is instead a caret and a grave accent, stacked vertically, with the grave on top.
< 1391796332 739383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Approximately ᴀ̂̀.)
< 1391796407 908398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty nice letter
< 1391796518 868468 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way in Unicode to say that "this following stack of combining characters should go vertically in this order, instead of being all on top of each other"? 
< 1391796715 470246 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there's a character called Combining Grapheme Joiner, which can be used to block reordering of combining characters during normalization ("For example, -- [as] one way to maintain distinction between differently ordered sequences of certain Hebrew accents and marks"), but that's a different thing.
< 1391796922 14167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And double diacritics (two-character ones, that is) will float over any diacritic marks of the participating two characters, but that's also different.
< 1391797020 510999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can put other diacritics on top of a double diacritic by following the double diacritic with the CGJ and a diacritic, but that's still not quite it.
< 1391797944 228581 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and it diacriticise.
< 1391797953 36332 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it also winds and snows outside. stupid weather.)
< 1391797959 835661 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL
< 1391797960 428744 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 071800Z 23021G28KT 15SM DRSN OVC035 M08/M13 A3011 RMK SC8 SLP197
< 1391797972 51516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK
< 1391797972 642393 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 071820Z 13010KT 0800 R04R/P1500U R15/0900N R22L/P1500U R04L/P1500U FG VV002 00/00 Q1002 NOSIG
< 1391797983 683925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our FZFG has turned to plain old FG.
< 1391798022 307833 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a very foggy day, however.
< 1391798045 78905 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're also suffering from 0800 and chronic VV002, it seems.
< 1391798064 979574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a note in the news that there's been delays at EFHK.
< 1391798072 108942 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ground visibility: 800 m or 1/2 mi, vertical visibility 20')
< 1391798086 51896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :20' sounds like not a much.
< 1391798140 807382 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm checking the units. I'm currently doubting it.
< 1391798200 129516 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :200'. missed a magnitude there.
< 1391798244 243503 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESSA
< 1391798244 629167 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSA 071820Z 13014KT 5000 -RA OVC006 02/01 Q0990 R01L/29//95 R08/29//95 R01R/29//95 TEMPO 4000 -RA
< 1391798460 766610 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plenty of light rain?
< 1391798483 240858 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like so.
< 1391798529 916236 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why there's two -RN's there
< 1391798535 516207 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, -RA
< 1391798559 762783 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first is a regular -RA, the second is a TEMPOrary change.
< 1391798568 863046 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1391798622 264203 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have -RA, and light -RA with 30% lest fat.
< 1391798625 626440 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you call people who read METARs METARologists?
< 1391798653 815904 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily
< 1391798654 531355 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is the brother of Roujo's brother and he's monetizing the company Roujo works at, or something Canadian like that. He's also a NaniDispenser, and a Man Eating Chicken.
< 1391798700 98268 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist.
< 1391798701 753674 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that.
< 1391798790 769162 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :A broterhood scheme, you say
< 1391798802 207619 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with Pouti and Roujo.
< 1391798854 500581 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar BIRK
< 1391798854 901420 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIRK 071800Z 01011KT 9999 FEW020 02/M01 Q0978
< 1391798882 425675 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIRK?
< 1391798892 120566 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. BIRK.
< 1391798974 975988 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: visiting iceland?
< 1391798987 997271 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, just curious about the weather there
< 1391799410 364452 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1391799687 379294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL the Perl CGI module contains some kind of wacky (and not very good) DSL for outputting HTML code (rather, XHTML 1.0 only)
< 1391799744 812725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I updated my house's accounting system (a venerable Perl script) to output nicer-looking Bootstrap-y HTML
< 1391799883 134298 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf 
< 1391799890 678000 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this fascination with Bootstrap by everyone?
< 1391799905 814267 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's so good in it
< 1391799907 277725 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1391799918 52208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just makes a page look decent with very little effort
< 1391799928 829874 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :more specifically?
< 1391799935 79098 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by "look decent"?
< 1391799943 498398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more readable, more pleasing to the eye
< 1391799957 429830 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like shiny stuff marketing asks for?
< 1391799962 821783 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you doing this page for yourself?
< 1391799965 217433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what crawled up your ass
< 1391799968 686117 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/shiny/shiny bling/
< 1391799973 130349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :U CARE AESTHETICS U NO REAL PROGRAMR
< 1391800004 570166 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I don't mean to be so negative, there is probably something bootstrap does well, I just don't know it and I'd like to find out what it is
< 1391800014 606150 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"make it nice" doesn't seem like something that would make you use it alone
< 1391800035 870475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'm not a web designer so I can't describe specifically the aspects which make it good design, but I appreciate the result
< 1391800045 14490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely a few things like better fonts and good spacing are obvious
< 1391800050 997907 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bootstrap has a 12-column grid. granted, nearly all starting bases have them, but bootstrap does some aggressive marketing.
< 1391800068 952384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a programmer and so I delegate design things to professional designers, and importing Bootstrap is a no-effort way to do that for small personal projects
< 1391800071 959342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why not do it?
< 1391800085 825787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I need a super strong reason to use it? it's one line of HTML
< 1391800090 766223 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, if that's all it's probably not something made for me
< 1391800104 591898 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like columns.
< 1391800117 596991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :another specific thing it does that's useful in this context (accounting) is the thing where alternating rows of a table are shaded differently
< 1391800123 758045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when you hover over a row it's shaded differently still
< 1391800138 794280 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ok, now that's something specific I can understand
< 1391800158 406287 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it's just like a few lines of css, but yes, it's good that a framework handles taht
< 1391800194 334177 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the problem is probably that I don't like "frameworks" in general
< 1391800199 926625 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you can get something with a few fancy flashy gradients and buttons and stuff with little effort, I don't see why not
< 1391800213 898930 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391800243 118374 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: because I don't want fancy gradients. I'm old school in typography and believe that text should be put on a uniform colored background only.
< 1391800276 222074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't do fancy flashy gradients
< 1391800290 166681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very simple clean design
< 1391800294 634310 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"flat design" is the fad now so it's even simpler
< 1391800308 586352 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also why I don't understand people using transparent windows, esp transparent menus and transparent terminal windows, or terminal windows with backgrounds
< 1391800313 716542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://getbootstrap.com/css/ http://getbootstrap.com/components/
< 1391800334 888095 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I admit that I also don't like frameworks in general
< 1391800422 934534 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bootstrap also makes responsive layouts easy and you can be p. sure that it works everywhere without testing it everywhere yourself.
< 1391800447 20063 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion:  I like columns.
< 1391800493 372323 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Me too, except when using a very narrow display.
< 1391800533 912523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I do the minimal terminals, minimal WM thing too
< 1391800539 182671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: however the default unstyled HTML isn't "minimal"
< 1391800546 85491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses a fucking serif font
< 1391800555 58438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in many respects bootstrap'd HTML looks simpler and cleaner
< 1391800564 464556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not about fancy gradients and impressing marketing
< 1391800593 10357 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: as for that, I do like serif fonts, but I decide about that in my browser settings. 
< 1391800597 266286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if "design" is such a tainted word to your ultra programmer sensibilities then call it "information presentation engineering" or whatever
< 1391800606 841360 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho, it's very hard to achieve a nice formatting with serif fonts on a retro-lit display.
< 1391800629 704169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i got to go
< 1391800631 862063 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I make my browser forcibly override fonts in all html to a good serif font instead of letting browsers choose, but then I usually turn it back eventually except for some bad websites
< 1391800650 367526 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: what are your favourite serif fonts?
< 1391800667 341938 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: maybe it is if you're using small font sizes. I prefer large sizes
< 1391800723 238078 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: sadly I don't really have any font I'm completely satisfied with. I would eventually like to design my own fonts, in like the next few decades, but for now I only have a good bitmap terminal font I've drawn.
< 1391800742 321788 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in browser I usually use either bitstream vera serif or times
< 1391800764 533582 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dislike times. I'm more of a palatino guy.
< 1391800818 820197 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nice example of serifed text → http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116443/new-york-citys-french-dual-language-programs-are-mostly-pointless
< 1391800832 662336 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they use ‘Publico Text’)
< 1391800853 209746 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, actually I think I do currently have the font forced on all websites in this browser
< 1391801639 680571 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me, I haven't read ILT in a long time
< 1391801659 40656 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ilovetypography.com/ that is
< 1391802045 749903 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 'Thanks, boily! Thoily!' reads much better than 'Thanks User:Boily, Thoily!'. Here's one case where policy gets in the way of style. almost makes me want to delinkify it.
< 1391802109 938229 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: pipe-link it
< 1391802122 314307 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is that like a rello?
< 1391802170 207264 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks b_jonas
< 1391802170 801111 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, b_jonas. Thonas.
< 1391802179 176441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: we have bots for everything!
< 1391802215 141932 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391802250 726994 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome evalj 
< 1391802251 543132 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13evalj: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.)
< 1391802316 354509 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough colors
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< 1391802486 710279 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 QUIT :Quit: quit
< 1391802806 827779 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: he did. then ais523 un-pipelinked due to wiki policy.
< 1391802867 334370 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just me or did that last relcome say 'Forcthe'
< 1391802881 225357 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it is you. fnord.
< 1391802903 110540 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the extra c disappeared when you spoke
< 1391802913 7411 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :temprary rendering error
< 1391802946 791008 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: have you invented yucca yet?
< 1391802952 229621 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: we're all waiting
< 1391803007 191613 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet, not yet. as I said some time ago, I need to have a “fit of a stroke” of inspiration.
< 1391803017 794274 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] consonants =: a.{~,66 98+/I.#:31324125
< 1391803018 197203 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: |ok
< 1391803038 941814 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and once again I `relcomed a bot.
< 1391803065 821798 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :evalj has no problems with that
< 1391803068 919858 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: in fact, there was a spark the other day when we were discussing undecideble sequences.
< 1391803071 918058 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :evalj, ping: relcome
< 1391803072 172309 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, pong: relcome
< 1391803075 546207 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you can't just wait for inspiration to smite you. you have to be thinking about esolangs in EVERY SPARE MOMENT
< 1391803102 575016 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i wasn't there. what was said?
< 1391803102 878540 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I like the feeling of beeing smitten. I stalk orc priests and hellwings.
< 1391803119 899228 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: something about... eeeeh... I'm kinda having a blank here.
< 1391803127 189886 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's related to the halting problem.
< 1391803213 266198 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 'stalking orc priests' is the metaphorical equivalent of thinking about esolangs ALL THE TIME
< 1391803256 337752 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks=: 3 :'''Thanks, '',y,''. Th'',''.'',~y}.~i.&0 y e.consonants'
< 1391803256 726992 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: |ok
< 1391803267 520452 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: trouvé! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_correspondence_problem
< 1391803272 310290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks 'boily'
< 1391803272 693442 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Thanks, boily. Thoily.
< 1391803296 998217 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks 'Firefly'
< 1391803297 356552 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Thanks, Firefly. Thirefly.
< 1391803311 606266 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should this do for names like 'kmc' though?
< 1391803316 315728 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks 'aaaaa something with a vowel'
< 1391803316 658898 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: |value error: thanks
< 1391803316 838531 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: |       thanks'aaaaa something with a vowel'
< 1391803319 815492 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks 'kmc'
< 1391803320 90200 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: |value error: thanks
< 1391803320 269588 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: |       thanks'kmc'
< 1391803337 113252 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/thanks
< 1391803337 833738 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/usr/bin/perl \ $_ = (join " ", @ARGV) || `words`; s/^\s+|\s+$//g; print "Thanks, $_. "; if (/[aeiouyAEIOUY]/) { s/^[^aeiouyAEIOUY]*/Th/; } else { s/^./T/; } print "$_.";
< 1391803364 118275 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: try 'evalj load: b_jonas,' or something first. stupid bot defaults to separate states per nick.
< 1391803366 959584 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'm having ideas. something MALBOLGIAN.
< 1391803367 442138 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :evalj, pwd:
< 1391803367 732599 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, working session is b_jonas,#esoteric
< 1391803382 518187 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :evalj cd: ,
< 1391803382 790369 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, changed to ,#esoteric
< 1391803383 434835 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evalj load: b_jonas
< 1391803383 663864 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, copied boily,#esoteric from boily,b_jonas
< 1391803389 172447 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks 'aaaaa something with a vowel'
< 1391803389 519164 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: |value error: thanks
< 1391803389 698803 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: |       thanks'aaaaa something with a vowel'
< 1391803391 150135 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, the comma is needed
< 1391803397 829922 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :evalj load: b_jonas,
< 1391803398 102118 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: say wut?
< 1391803398 281366 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, copied ,#esoteric from b_jonas,#esoteric
< 1391803404 194292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evalj load: b_jonas,
< 1391803404 373755 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, copied boily,#esoteric from b_jonas,#esoteric
< 1391803407 121432 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks 'aaaaa something with a vowel'
< 1391803407 461868 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Thanks, aaaaa something with a vowel. Thaaaaa something with a vowel.
< 1391803425 301549 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am scared
< 1391803440 770219 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: whatever it is, we should be able to talk to metasepia in it
< 1391803443 784090 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks 'kmc'
< 1391803444 213754 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Thanks, kmc. Th.
< 1391803448 698233 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks 'evalj'
< 1391803449 141788 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Thanks, evalj. Thevalj.
< 1391803471 313616 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 'Thevalj.' is right. Isn't that sort of how pig latin works? 
< 1391803478 722317 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not good in these English language games
< 1391803488 706648 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: of course. I'd like to have it understand aubergine also.
< 1391803513 746297 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Name_Game is more relevant than pig latin?
< 1391803648 783547 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think pig latin cuts up and reorders stuff
< 1391803708 882543 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't know what it should give for a nick with only consonants
< 1391803712 177911 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like kmc
< 1391803756 896249 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks kmc
< 1391803757 482655 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, kmc. Tmc.
< 1391803766 965175 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ↑ that's one possible solution.
< 1391803769 553634 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, ok
< 1391803792 983961 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: post seems pretty cool
< 1391803838 798477 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it should be WrItTeN In iN aUbErFGiNe
< 1391803858 183238 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh stupid lag echoing backspaces instead of doing them
< 1391803891 24090 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you squished an ERF in my aubergine.
< 1391803966 355663 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gihvjck
< 1391803978 756719 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine it the way it looked to me before udp mangled it
< 1391804099 967824 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spelling guterals won't help you there, you Infamous Squisher.
< 1391804154 179782 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think I'm still going to go a step further than that. something more... arduous. tortuous. painful, like a stubbed toe on a rabid stove.
< 1391804166 137618 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1391804170 711561 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been done
< 1391804182 178798 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks strong
< 1391804183 299760 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, strong. Thong.
< 1391804201 323966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: beuh.
< 1391804223 184871 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: make something that is a JOY to program in! even more than aubergine!
< 1391804287 593232 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. so, pain inducing, but more like a quality hot sauce where you put your tongue on fire and your brains on dopamines?
< 1391804398 127258 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, is there yucca flavoured hot sauce out there? I'd buy a bottle of that if thausible.)
< 1391804547 601132 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Hanks
< 1391804548 280429 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Hanks. Thanks.
< 1391804639 879326 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://honest-food.net/2011/06/15/eating-yucca-flowers/ there's this at least. your language should be like eating fried flowers with hot sauce
< 1391804662 85805 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1391804668 843667 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are tempting me.
< 1391804677 309431 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: fire flowers? as in super mario ones?
< 1391804697 641607 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oens that make you powerful
< 1391804725 921176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, flowers tend not to shoot fire in real life
< 1391804733 19318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are plants with projectile weapons, though
< 1391804784 304903 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: have you broken resplicate yet. we're all waiting :P
< 1391804821 460163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no, I need to spend overnight I think
< 1391804827 413733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't concentrate when I have Internet access
< 1391804832 580145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why most of my BF Jousting is done offline
< 1391804834 104408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance
< 1391804848 33098 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D i understand
< 1391804881 152427 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION EMPs the area around ais523 
< 1391804901 85317 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the flowers that shoot fire
< 1391804912 381902 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's super mario that shoots fire after he takes a fire flower
< 1391805032 39860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: careful not to destroy my laptop
< 1391805048 180216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the flower itself shoots fire in Smash Bros.
< 1391805087 205999 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i focused on isp hubs and cell towers
< 1391805100 945171 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm
< 1391805110 344361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can ignore the cell towers, I don't have any sort of cellular equipment
< 1391805120 108336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then I wouldn't be able to concentrate /ever/ :-)
< 1391805176 321524 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, mario games also have flower-like enemies that duck in and out of pipes, some of which shoot flowers, but I don't know what those are called
< 1391805210 799348 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to know their names
< 1391805240 181813 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gb super mario 2 has cannons instead of flowers only I think
< 1391805243 69859 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure
< 1391805253 537269 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait
< 1391805261 1345 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cannons don't duck in and out of pipes
< 1391805263 289413 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno 
< 1391805272 302514 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mariowiki.com/Piranha_Plant ?
< 1391805283 45821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: piranha plants I think
< 1391805303 772495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the canons duck in and out of pipes on super mario land /1/
< 1391805308 811574 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :piranha plant or packun flower
< 1391805316 616136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/2/ has piranha plants, like in the NES and SNES games
< 1391805325 623452 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the fire shooters are venus firetraps
< 1391805327 373362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, didn't mean to italicise the2
< 1391805331 381624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*  2
< 1391805346 797565 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually from that wiki http://www.mariowiki.com/Venus_Fire_Trap is the variant that shoots fire
< 1391805382 822100 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurray we are all good at googling
< 1391805391 29622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, I'm doing this from memory
< 1391805394 125958 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what's the black cat-head-like thing in gb super mario 1 that ducks from pipes and shoots horizontally moving bullets?
< 1391805407 663921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I said, learning about computer games I've never played is one of my hobbies
< 1391805409 821587 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't google, I just clicked on a link from the Piranha Plant article
< 1391805412 643796 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, I have actually played SML1 and 2)
< 1391805418 840008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and completed both of them)
< 1391805422 801880 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have played both, but sml2 much more
< 1391805444 85276 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't completed sml2, but I've done all but the wario level
< 1391805450 953487 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wario level turns out to be too difficult to me
< 1391805455 1373 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :turned
< 1391805460 414631 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an order of magnitude harder than anything else in the game
< 1391805460 594453 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION aims at birdo at ais523. "beat super mario sunshine or you get the egg!"
< 1391805473 131301 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391805484 389937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: for quite a lot of it, memorization helps
< 1391805501 636014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also recommend grinding lives (or coins to buy lives) so that you don't have to go and refight all the bosses when you screw up
< 1391805507 881273 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason why sml2 is easy is that you get lots of retries because it's really easy to get lots of extra lives
< 1391805516 897269 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly
< 1391805531 1615 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I continuously had over 90 lives when playing
< 1391805539 593222 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the wario castle is long
< 1391805549 800366 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, long and no checkpoints
< 1391805556 414484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the first room is the second-hardest room in the castle
< 1391805568 892099 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's nice of them
< 1391805571 705199 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to finish it anymore, but I would like to finish commander keen 2
< 1391805576 786478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, hard room first helps
< 1391805578 310145 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1391805583 9315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hardest room is like halfway through
< 1391805597 389476 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've finished all other commander keen games (on easy level at least), 
< 1391805602 373218 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm stuck in ck2
< 1391805605 261177 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait
< 1391805608 629176 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ck3 I'm stuck in
< 1391805612 253150 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done ck2
< 1391805618 105293 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for the confusino
< 1391805619 398723 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to wipe and clean and nuke and polish and apply febreeze to my machine.
< 1391805624 864064 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: NUCULAR CHICKEN!
< 1391805642 155683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, that sentence is leaving me with cognitive dissonance
< 1391805652 45270 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, I could finish those too only because of infinite lives you get by saving after each level
< 1391805656 207520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because half of it is ambiguous, and the other half gives mixed signals as to how to interpret it
< 1391805664 837980 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, in the second series, in the middle of levels too
< 1391805694 889442 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find ck5 the easiest by far
< 1391805707 229290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait
< 1391805717 245165 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, ck5
< 1391805720 597379 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always mix them up
< 1391805726 190674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about the commander keen series
< 1391805773 185103 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what you should know is that ck1..3 is completely different from ck4..6. 
< 1391805789 456598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, this is not very much information because I don't know much about /either/ series
< 1391805820 521783 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ck1..3 has more different (and imo more difficult) controls (reacts slower, sort of like prince of persia), different graphics (smaller tiles), different rules (can't save during levels), different level design
< 1391805891 241402 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also older and targets earlier computers, so the graphics isn't as good (simpler tiles, horizontally scrolls only in multiplies of 8 pixels so it works on EGA or something, which makes it sometimes jerky).
< 1391805892 121652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I don't even know what genre this is
< 1391805984 373235 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's a 2D platformer where you control a single superhero, the young (8 year old or so) Commander Keen, who dies from a single hit but has a pistol he can use to kill or stun most enemies (limited number of shots in ck1..3) 
< 1391806000 673236 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a pogo he can use to jump bigger but more difficult to control than normal jumps
< 1391806012 355544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm right
< 1391806013 801431 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.shikadi.net/keenwiki/ is the wiki
< 1391806041 872304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this doesn't really sound like the sort of game I enjoy
< 1391806043 137686 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ck4..6 has lots of secret areas, mostly invisible passages inside walls, but sometimes just places that are hard to reach
< 1391806060 105566 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i'm playing commander keen as we speak
< 1391806065 473766 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck
< 1391806068 333228 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I quite enjoy ck4..6, enjoy ck1..3 somewhat less but now I'd like to complete it
< 1391806081 545353 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: high five
< 1391806092 558225 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: the important question is, is it in {1..3} or {4..6}?
< 1391806096 412136 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ck5
< 1391806105 897549 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(NB. I've never played any CK game either)
< 1391806136 732947 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm doing speedruns. very fun
< 1391806153 24614 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Keen3Gameplay.png nice colour palette
< 1391806204 141814 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to do a full 100% run at some point. ck5 speedrunning is    aaaactive, ish, but everyone skips through the game with a glitch, even though the levels are very fun
< 1391806246 433824 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: by 100% run, you mean no death and no save?
< 1391806256 399288 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean beat all the levels
< 1391806258 969510 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1391806263 925342 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's easier
< 1391806264 843103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 100% means you achieve all the goals of the game
< 1391806275 589487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, for "beat all the levels", the normal terms are either "all levels" or "warpless"
< 1391806285 929630 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to reach all the secret places in levels and the secret level and all the hidden items too, even the really difficult to get extra lives?
< 1391806286 188154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :warpless means you don't skip levels, all levels means you do all of them
< 1391806296 55268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the difference mostly being when you have a choice of which level to take
< 1391806299 909187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks to be a standard PC color palette, I think
< 1391806302 667848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in warpless, you can pick either of them
< 1391806309 503633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in all levels, you do one, then go back and do the other
< 1391806309 709366 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"warpless" and "all levels" differ one level in keen 5
< 1391806310 737067 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, some commander keen games have optional levels or choices between levels
< 1391806311 770560 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the secret level)
< 1391806334 433290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try to go for all levels except the secret level, that's how I did ck{1,3,4,5,6} I think
< 1391806351 637338 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I definitely cannot reach all the hidden places in all levels
< 1391806366 265623 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want all levels because that's how I get the most fun from the game
< 1391807081 120021 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-19-63.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391807265 725849 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1391807562 607194 :spiette!~spiette@modemcable021.247-226-192.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1391807574 187523 :yubisaylozada1!~canaima@186.167.243.107 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391807639 984834 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.243.130 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1391807781 405138 :boilyphone!~androirc@2607:fad8:4:6:3877:4762:2a27:91d5 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391807809 960867 :boilyphone!~androirc@2607:fad8:4:6:3877:4762:2a27:91d5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiping the machine.
< 1391807880 330735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1391808050 506014 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391808148 546874 :yubisaylozada1!~canaima@186.167.243.107 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1391808155 290305 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quien habla en espa�ol 
< 1391808162 758158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido yubisaylozada 
< 1391808163 581102 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yubisaylozada: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.)
< 1391808200 697903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/tervetuloa
< 1391808201 426993 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/tervetuloa: No such file or directory
< 1391808216 457993 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a factoid
< 1391808218 812988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ion: ☝
< 1391808220 262084 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom, I mean
< 1391808223 666514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tervetuloa
< 1391808224 413181 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tervetuloa: ask shachaf
< 1391808227 962009 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-)
< 1391808228 305478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :B|
< 1391808229 826990 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh. good enough
< 1391808250 458258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does FireFly speak Finnish maybe
< 1391808255 683270 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :'fraid not
< 1391808271 637522 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from 'ei saa peittä'
< 1391808289 662154 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should be "peittää".
< 1391808301 54438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fizzie
< 1391808305 955888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hizzie
< 1391808316 836077 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hizzie" sounds like some sort of a rap thing.
< 1391808319 94972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1391808367 260733 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah.
< 1391808396 371915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungotizzle
< 1391808396 551705 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: s/ it's/ its/
< 1391808416 831156 :augur!~augur@50.246.68.190 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391808433 39276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow thanks a lot fungot
< 1391808433 247700 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but with " a" rant... it makes it harder for programs written in scheme
< 1391808456 795936 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1391808505 655989 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether yubisaylozada understands english, or is just smiling and nodding along...
< 1391808601 72774 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1391808616 941324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you might say the same about fungot
< 1391808617 890059 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: try searching for " library procedure", on the same lines
< 1391808619 231032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: :)
< 1391808619 620578 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: apparently it's also from greek platypous, but i'm confused about continuations being used in so many ways. for example,
< 1391808630 209437 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to suggest we should mention not speaking spanish in the welcome but... there it is
< 1391808639 876163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah somebody added that
< 1391808644 339642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody++
< 1391808656 803134 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja {deployment}:n kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric irc.dal.net:ssä.)” Help, what’s deployment in Finnish?
< 1391808702 60622 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that bienvenido message has no color
< 1391808721 405903 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: good point
< 1391808725 27987 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :käyttöönotto?
< 1391808728 993565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bienvenido b_jonas | rainwords
< 1391808729 955227 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :07b_jonas: 08¡Bienvenido 09al 02centro 06internacional 13para 04el 07diseño 08y 09despliegue 02de 06lenguajes 13de 04programación 07esotéricos! 08Por 09desgracia, 02la 06mayoría 13de 04nosotros 07no 08hablamos 09español. 02Para 06obtener 13más 04información, 07echa 08un 09vistazo 02a 06nuestro 13wiki: 0
< 1391808738 157130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1391808748 660478 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1391808765 667620 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: length limit?
< 1391808766 538583 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : b_jonas: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: 
< 1391808766 858577 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey how do i set my locale
< 1391808767 409716 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(16:56:23) kmc: huh
< 1391808774 798760 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :seeing question marks in irc is sad
< 1391808776 406225 :boilyphone!~androirc@2607:fad8:4:6:3877:4762:2a27:91d5 QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )
< 1391808813 298338 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only fun when they speak in spanish :/
< 1391808824 8881 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :general they, here
< 1391808830 338495 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nevermind i found a wiki entry
< 1391808876 105250 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that message in spanish or obfuscated spanish btw? it seems like it has too many long words.
< 1391808877 192297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :typeof(*p) *elliott_________ = (typeof(*p)*__force )ACCESS_ONCE(p);
< 1391808901 385132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it's the consensus between Google Translate and my half remembered high school spanish knowledge
< 1391808905 132538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus some edits by others
< 1391808910 268643 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah!
< 1391808923 512404 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't actually have spanish speakers here?
< 1391808945 506454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we have any regulars who are fluent spanish speakers... but I'm not sure
< 1391808961 698097 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that what "la mayoria de nosotros no hablamos espanol" means
< 1391808962 41156 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmkay
< 1391809012 466612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: what does the ":n" mean
< 1391809058 463332 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn welcome.fi Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric palvelimella irc.dal.net.)
< 1391809060 426092 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that.
< 1391809091 57212 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It’s the inflection equivalent to “of ___”.
< 1391809092 101777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that message in finnish or obfuscated finnish btw? it seems like it has too many long words.
< 1391809116 378621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: well, i specifically wondered about the ':'
< 1391809117 231467 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a difference?
< 1391809145 356849 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :;)
< 1391809147 569215 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It’s how you attach an inflection into something that can’t be inflected.
< 1391809178 285088 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 – kolme – three
< 1391809186 119537 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :3:n – kolmen – of three / three’s
< 1391809259 708463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1391809297 932849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kolme yksin
< 1391809298 585131 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :IBM:n – IBM’s
< 1391809323 224915 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :IBM:lle – for IBM
< 1391809335 317696 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fuck is there a keyboard layout called 'unicode'...
< 1391809450 808040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you literally use a colon for that in finnish? weird/cool
< 1391809457 72638 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You should improve my translation, esp. for “deployment”, kthx
< 1391809506 511231 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you ever see someone write “IBM:s” in English shklee’s probably a native Finn.
< 1391809508 828400 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Hungarian uses a hyphen for that (and removes the period from before it if the word before ends in a period)
< 1391809525 616306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The colon+suffix thing gets used wrong in many ways.
< 1391809531 721861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Sgeo you might be interested in https://air.mozilla.org/incremental-parallelization-of-dynamic-languages/
< 1391809532 151688 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1391809534 710363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't watched it yet
< 1391809549 469271 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for the colon, someone has suggested to use a dot
< 1391809554 729283 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :erase that
< 1391809570 105137 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. it's "IBM:n" because that's read letter by letter, but "OPECin" because that's read as a word.
< 1391809597 849400 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :paamayim nekudotayim
< 1391809604 169441 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for the colon, someone has suggested to use a middle dot as a new punctuation mark in Hungarian to separate the subject (and words attached to that) from the predicate (and words attached from that) in ambiguous sentences,
< 1391809616 428944 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think we should use the colon for that actually.
< 1391809621 514014 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swedish also uses : for ordinals (1:a, 2:a, 3:e for 1st, 2nd, 3rd)
< 1391809628 288099 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-)
< 1391809629 344669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: IBM:n and OPECin are correct usage or they're the wrong usage you object to?
< 1391809631 33106 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this one doesn't make sense in English, where that kind of ambiguity doesn't come up)
< 1391809653 521396 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: They're both correct. But different, obviously, since the other doesn't have a colon.
< 1391809702 537556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I can't really figure out a better word for deployment.
< 1391809715 604295 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: sigh
< 1391809737 821306 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for abuse, the blogs http://www.apostropheabuse.com/ and http://www.apostrophecatastrophes.com/ have lots of examples where apostrophe is used in English to attach plural "s" to words
< 1391809755 557074 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :often to abbreviations
< 1391809806 223133 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391809822 944113 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido
< 1391809823 806478 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.)
< 1391809827 349079 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -re 's/\.es\>/.fi/g' /.fi/g' bin/tervetuloa && chmod 755 bin/tervetuloa
< 1391809848 343444 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391809868 796864 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tervetuloa Adolf
< 1391809869 653660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adolf: welcome.fi Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric palvelimella irc.dal.net.)
< 1391809874 821814 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1391809887 880762 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1391809897 311989 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bonjour
< 1391809898 77973 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonjour? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1391809901 809451 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/welcome.fi // from taht output
< 1391809916 926472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in the wisdom file.
< 1391809917 633548 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sed -i -re 's/^welcome\.fi //' wisdom/welcome.fi
< 1391809918 335730 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \  \   -n, --quiet, --silent \                  suppress automatic printing of pattern space \   -e script, --expression=script \                  add the script to the commands to be executed \   -f script-file, --file=script-file \                  add the contents of script-
< 1391809920 194568 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is weird.
< 1391809935 880414 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1391809943 619010 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i -re 's/^welcome\.fi //' wisdom/welcome.fi
< 1391809945 185191 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391809951 821013 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tervetuloa Adolf
< 1391809952 713533 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adolf: Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric palvelimella irc.dal.net.)
< 1391809972 877013 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :better
< 1391809981 352475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :next up relvetuloa
< 1391809996 135633 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rainbow is sateenkaari in Finnish hth
< 1391810004 53295 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um... does that make sense in finnish?
< 1391810013 75679 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's not weird, it's just the way `learn has always worked.
< 1391810014 705181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :selvetuloa
< 1391810052 218853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :tervekaari.
< 1391810066 331693 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sateentuloa
< 1391810077 422552 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish 12
< 1391810078 627294 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaivaihtuvilta syrjistisemme venemienollisemmaksen finimittumalta hulluvinänsä lyömaaliseen hakeutuvinansa rastani raan keskuumanansa naisempientaisi naisemmalla
< 1391810090 688573 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rastani
< 1391810103 643726 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"kaivaihtuvilta" is borderline okay.
< 1391810119 491700 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"from the probably-changing" or some such.
< 1391810126 702701 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh! is that some sort of stochastic model random generation?
< 1391810135 924789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's character... trigrams? 
< 1391810138 979099 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's trigrams.
< 1391810149 840705 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made one of those once, a bit more complicated, 
< 1391810164 676016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then some separate word length model, I think.
< 1391810167 193088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other languages does `words know?
< 1391810171 715595 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --help
< 1391810172 626514 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] \  \ options: \   -l, --list             list valid datasets \   -d, --debug            debugging output \   -N, --dont-normalize   don't normalize frequencies when combining \                          multiple Markov models; this has the effect \                          of making larger dataset
< 1391810176 203417 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --list
< 1391810177 72042 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M
< 1391810184 28060 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It barely fits in the output.
< 1391810192 262194 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --canadian-english-insane
< 1391810193 220158 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mality
< 1391810206 124073 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn’t that redundant?
< 1391810215 923998 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can interpolate between two, which is I guess fancy.
< 1391810221 299781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish --swedish 5
< 1391810222 307954 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gruosiatriken sänsä tahandeintamilja isras firman
< 1391810231 992849 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 PART :#esoteric
< 1391810238 125644 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :taught it the list of ~3300 Hungarian town names and made it generate a mix of random town names and real town names so you have to guess,
< 1391810239 141392 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --eng-1M 12
< 1391810240 600744 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :defica ced tigl magnant spagne bellus dellslotoet remark coversigna inramound congd trailch
< 1391810241 52207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite often the interpolation sticks to one of the models, unsurprisingly.
< 1391810247 919214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :english is such a beautiful language
< 1391810254 638277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --german 12
< 1391810255 508036 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You're such a magnant guy.
< 1391810255 864007 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tandenentalthar erung droismenais pannell tubenbau kelligio verrichtetermelz stavent argoverspretelloh infachgeselbuch importfreism far
< 1391810260 53018 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :often it gave obviously fake gibberish, but it also gave good fakes
< 1391810271 666291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --manx 12
< 1391810272 498645 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :corpoin aesa cad hagh cummalreas per glooagey grein cleayreyda anchoobalan aasaayn yn-least-chei
< 1391810277 871435 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --canadian-english-insane --esolangs 12
< 1391810278 760638 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thulg stant [] snusplia pan intymphiloquiet thingy tage cal perpropoma () purphlor
< 1391810286 332206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The esolang dataset is my favourite.
< 1391810295 388319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's esolang names from the wiki.)
< 1391810300 159657 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --swedish --esolangs 20
< 1391810301 121579 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suicerylan ist orkar threa surn carant tmmlpte um-32 ransion2 numstränktif thundskatterwangiva iotets inveyor pyrels ortfal drivar flykt keminius cirke pointinan
< 1391810310 261153 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best fake it generated is Nemes, which is actually the Hungarian name for a town in Romania, so it wasn't in the input dataset
< 1391810320 401718 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :thundskatterwangiva, eh?
< 1391810331 844152 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --english --esolangs 20
< 1391810332 607529 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: english
< 1391810347 63621 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --eng-1M --esolangs 20
< 1391810348 560111 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :frak verix paxo bita mar etruelativenu bf-pda rssble splayne subskia pumpt mer inhydr mkblnk dobin ite pil dogranscrips pau bran
< 1391810353 914318 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite from its output is Rúgonya though
< 1391810357 279344 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogranscrips!
< 1391810381 329090 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read a story today that involved a doge and the meme fucked me up
< 1391810393 326579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for w in $(words --english --esolangs 20); do echo -n "${w}coin "; done
< 1391810394 291503 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: english
< 1391810399 728517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for w in $(words --eng-1M --esolangs 20); do echo -n "${w}coin "; done
< 1391810400 680565 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also tried to teach it to generate ordinary Hungarian text, but there the output is much more gibberish
< 1391810401 366288 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fercoin mencoin notcoin ovecoin hallycoin worlcoin tolmbacoin paxcoin abclarecoin geomegaplcoin whencoin valuscoin standfoocoin hattancoin wielcoin .yachiewcoin 0.75coin rssomskjcoin sentowcoin expenbecoin
< 1391810418 467329 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mencoin? isn't that just bitcoin? zing
< 1391810422 349571 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :notcoin
< 1391810422 676776 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Geomegaplcoins could be such a thing.
< 1391810447 169149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'for w in $(words --eng-1M --esolangs 20); do echo -n "${w}coin "; done' > bin/coins && chmod +x bin/coins
< 1391810447 661204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, a majority of them sound like plausible cryptocurrencies.
< 1391810448 737073 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391810450 122767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1391810451 575215 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :devlcoin 1cnigmantcoin braincoin orthcoin gorgicoin maginacoin pnruncoin crtoncoin koticurcoin verstanfpacoin full+coin lytejudecoin andypacoin starmocoin puzzellcoin hosphacoin wlucoin fityrdahlecoin anycoin chapycoin
< 1391810468 535384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1391810470 152016 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :netweeumonodycoin 0.9602coin hanoldbcoin gasoignimalcoin monterwacoin tweensidcoin suellowfoocoin forcoin dzzzcoin gotoncoin hobbacoin kroecoin obarandcoin verationcoin probelcoin nuitabllcoin ctorcoin sessprocoin .boxcoin aaromancoin
< 1391810485 509014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It keeps working.
< 1391810490 810413 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --eng-1M --esolangs 20 | sed -re 's/\>/coin/g'
< 1391810492 723126 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incincoin chocoin ovecoin iihromodercoin insoncoin wertcoin ersioneranacoin divzcoin paxicoin adjustcoin vcoin rentacoin brillecoin beincoin qwertainspathogelycoin fannacoin vercoin brashmencoin coniacoin tyvercoin
< 1391810502 786095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: much better
< 1391810519 738616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'words --eng-1M --esolangs 20 | sed -re '"'"'s/\>/coin/g'"'"'' > bin/coins
< 1391810521 379449 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391810523 576949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1391810525 287946 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bentacoin platorylancoin homoucoin rcepticoin pithcoin timissecoin guadecoin penfernoncoin pongcoin tsedumbcoin glycoin tgcoin netwocoin cratumcoin 2dcoin-refcoin colnicoin nabcoin mcoin-codcoin parecoin modecoin
< 1391810534 251071 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mcoin-codcoin
< 1391810575 248963 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive coin
< 1391810595 960672 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive
< 1391810596 906288 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :infuck
< 1391810605 834610 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391810630 445436 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run espletive | sed -e 's/fuck/coin/'  # workaround
< 1391810631 576424 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :memcoin
< 1391810645 859627 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good enough
< 1391810665 504796 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive 20
< 1391810670 631184 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2050706
< 1391810782 375983 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --eng-1M --esolangs 20 | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g'
< 1391810783 948468 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woudrycoin quoiacoin cardcoin uniniftysnaicoin revergingcoin con-of-unbabtcoin ><>coin heicoin quotcoin morecoin entcoin perlincoin monozcand.nexcoin msgacoin cycliptcoin cufcoin workcoin braincncoin oversecoin leszecoin
< 1391810846 897834 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '%s\n' 'words --eng-1M --esolangs 20 | sed -re '\''s/( |$)/coin\1/g'\' | tee bin/coins
< 1391810848 562945 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --eng-1M --esolangs 20 | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g'
< 1391810859 304371 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1391810861 269774 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cutanginencoin befuckencoin aldinguncoin zenocoin doniacoin gloversecoin genorcoin infiniscoin vertcoin ooooocoin parcoin poglyoncoin anocoin presonalcoin checoin leurcoin retcoin brakillicoin rainecoin whencoin
< 1391810876 664547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befuckencoins.
< 1391810883 188054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391810899 83564 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1391810928 765849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Got any zenocoins on you? 
< 1391810963 893156 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :whencoin?
< 1391810970 518395 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem like a safe investment to me
< 1391810986 943759 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, personally i'm going for thisisascamdontuseitcoin
< 1391810987 705500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i somehow never manage to finish getting any
< 1391811008 312993 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: make that scamcoin for short
< 1391811018 797284 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :scamcoin is totally distinct!
< 1391811032 220290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, scamcoin1.1 then
< 1391811778 118574 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391811888 841668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: found a "useful" resplicate pattern
< 1391811928 159678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which alleviates most of my doubts that it is TC
< 1391811983 825298 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that pattern?
< 1391812031 56123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 2 4 2 4 2 4 2 0 ? n 1 ...any n integers...
< 1391812074 185717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's self-producing and allows embedding any data
< 1391812093 982734 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that reminds me
< 1391812124 116352 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the esolang wiki have entries for the three simple automata Smullyan has defined in his books?
< 1391812137 612402 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, maybe I should write about them
< 1391812141 204439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't recall
< 1391812156 89423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i don't know smullyan's automata
< 1391812164 996523 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's why I should write about them
< 1391812198 925661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i may vaguely recall someone writing something related on the wiki
< 1391812230 324707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no hits for "smullyan"
< 1391812304 596704 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :two of them are defined in the book ''The Lady or the Tiger'', one in ''The Riddle of Scheherazade''. 
< 1391812339 356528 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the three are very simlar, they're functions from digit strings to other digit strings, 
< 1391812371 684962 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :partial functions actually, with very simple rules, and often applied repeatedly with the question being whether it ever reaches a digit string not in the domain
< 1391812422 728959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm
< 1391812476 952327 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other questions are finding a quine (there is at least one for each automaton)
< 1391812540 520867 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should write them up on the wiki later
< 1391812604 428954 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reminded to this by this Resplicate
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< 1391816241 774362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.fi
< 1391816242 550573 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric palvelimella irc.dal.net.)
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< 1391819349 645820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: are you Sgeoing #haskell
< 1391819407 943811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean
< 1391819411 921089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you Sgeo?
< 1391819412 281572 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but flaming people for poor spelling grammar also bad. the only other language i can speak english, you make macro writers list all the classes?
< 1391819420 968581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1391819422 708982 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :byyocoin attscoin spachellcoin tectdiscoin cccxxicoin imperdecoin velycoin bitumcoin agacoin waibcoin antcoin auracoin regxcoin unpliamenteuroschcoin shakrusolcoin rhotocoin aniccoin mibbcoin devilcoin ificidicacicoin
< 1391819438 942321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1391819441 36482 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :houcoin affmancoin 5-logcoin lolcoin ozonecoin nonotcoin backcoin sendsoncoin eningcoin ethcoin bracoin bijcoin beasepcoin mdpncoin fromageddendstuckcoin avrllercoin kickcoin bayfelycoin broofcoin longiorsestantcoin
< 1391819464 789625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wc -l /usr/share/dict/words
< 1391819465 395472 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wc: /usr/share/dict/words: No such file or directory
< 1391819467 744690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/
< 1391819519 774573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /usr/share/dict
< 1391819520 571625 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391819645 775353 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you know you can apt-get install wamerican-insane to get a big words list
< 1391819686 890589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :preschoolercoin shittycoin illegalcoin brassierecoin stupefyingcoin profanitycoin liquorcoin aggravationcoin ragcoin slaphappiercoin metamorphiccoin execrablecoin flabbergastcoin
< 1391819713 552662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chuckholecoin confidentialcoin kismetcoin matinéecoin numeracycoin ignorancecoin linoleumcoin
< 1391819754 279699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes
< 1391819772 817025 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :unpliamenteuroschcoin
< 1391820100 977763 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff /usr/share/dict/foo{-insane,} | sed -nre 's/^< (.*)/\1coin/p'
< 1391820217 111465 :aergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-78-41.pptp.stw-bonn.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1391820239 799958 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does HackEgo have any dict files?
< 1391820254 439617 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i have one of smullyan's books where he defines one of those languages. i should put it on the wiki
< 1391820324 505658 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's a pretty cool pattern, but in order to get a tag system, we need it to arrive at the front of the queue in the right orientation. is that easy?
< 1391820388 496115 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :% diff /usr/share/dict/american-english{-insane,} | sed -nre 's/^< (.*)/\1coin/p' | shuf | head -n 20 | xargs -d'\n'
< 1391820390 807133 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :breathalyzescoin erythrenecoin illimitability'scoin intercirculationcoin Lepismatidaecoin Pleurotomaria'scoin Tachyglossidaecoin sheepfacednesscoin Kapwepwe'scoin micturatedcoin indeterminationscoin brachycephalism'scoin scarpettocoin furoscoin coadministrationscoin oxheadscoin flemitcoin sphenoturbinalcoin Bacocoin Celisse'scoin
< 1391820435 518791 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first Google result: To view the definition of sphenoturbinal[1], activate your Merriam-Webster Unabridged Dictionary FREE TRIAL now!
< 1391820436 597049 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :egrep '^[a-z]*[a-rt-z]$'
< 1391820448 149866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :micturatedcoin nice
< 1391820452 271763 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gee, i surely will do that instead of reading it directly from the second Google result.
< 1391820506 362290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: what do you mean by right orientation?
< 1391820514 876829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what does that regex do exactly?
< 1391820515 56350 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tachyglossidaecoin.
< 1391820535 848518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: oh, xargs -d'\n' is really handy! thanks
< 1391820569 162815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so handy that one might wonder why it's not the default
< 1391820573 521982 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Also: xargs -a <(some command) -d'\n' foo when you don’t want to break foo’s stdin.
< 1391820585 580624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sulphurcoin aristocracycoin steamiestcoin exploitcoin bloatedcoin allegorycoin vicaragecoin dullestcoin
< 1391820615 800288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of words and letters and shit, https://twitter.com/anagramatron
< 1391820680 208487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i'd imagine the actual structure of the whole queue to consist of these patterns, except for a few "active" blocks.
< 1391820709 523081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those blocks would be responsible for synchronizing at their ends, naturally.
< 1391820740 384769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they want to activate the data inside one of these patterns, in which case they'd delete the prefix and possibly more.
< 1391820744 397675 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'll have to study it to see what it does. right now i have to watch the opening cermonies :P
< 1391820774 810968 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It took me a while to get it.
< 1391820890 588534 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pro tip: don’t try to analyze the retweets in isolation.
< 1391821467 495524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :available in a different format here http://anagramatron.tumblr.com/
< 1391821755 45878 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should implement Braintrust in Racket
< 1391821771 639776 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I can include the Racket compiler in the compiled program
< 1391821790 575530 :eliudLl24!~eliud@190.204.239.147 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391821809 322993 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be able to avoid needing to actually have Racket, and effectively have Braintrust compile directly to machine code
< 1391821828 916284 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... err, Racket bytecode + Racket interpreter? Not sure how it works
< 1391821862 16237 :eliudLl24!~eliud@190.204.239.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello
< 1391821890 429943 :eliudLl24!~eliud@190.204.239.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(i ave a problem :'(
< 1391821896 943300 :eliudLl24!~eliud@190.204.239.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have*
< 1391821909 805355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome eliudLl24 
< 1391821910 768575 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :06eliudLl24: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04irc.dal.net.)
< 1391821934 305305 :eliudLl24!~eliud@190.204.239.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :._.
< 1391821949 5731 :eliudLl24!~eliud@190.204.239.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha!
< 1391821952 387161 :eliudLl24!~eliud@190.204.239.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD
< 1391822031 30970 :eliudLl24!~eliud@190.204.239.147 PART :#esoteric
< 1391822437 762161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp
< 1391822468 148193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :contraceptioncoin dairycoin arrogantcoin jerkincoin
< 1391822602 473021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerkcitycoin
< 1391822617 559778 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’ll buy 10000
< 1391822753 852205 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xwwfothbgxldfgvg QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1391822956 252718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: real words seem so passé for this
< 1391822979 176342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1391822980 742807 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :geolbecoin nppcoin ardbarcoin ihaxcoin poblidcoin 350coin piecescoin chorreloecoin redcoracoin moncoin flumpaislmcoin brecoin frefcoin tagelpmencoin comcoin nunnytcoin flivitcoin nsomcoin mjicoin 272coin
< 1391822994 584974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihaxcoin, clearly
< 1391822999 6770 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :numbers now huh
< 1391823108 959583 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm now treasurer of my uni's CS society help
< 1391823238 775389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are you the Taneb in #rust?
< 1391823256 510206 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, yes
< 1391823268 700516 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you the kmc in #rust
< 1391823276 81278 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is FreeFull the FreeFull in #rust
< 1391823277 112977 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1391823287 551730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1391823291 842206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a nice #esoteric contingent there
< 1391823299 814255 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I am
< 1391823305 636533 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1391823306 598545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir sometimes
< 1391823327 156931 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to push myself to learn it after I accidentally convinced some of my friends to learn it and they started asking me questions
< 1391823327 336689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nice #esoteric contingent and a grouchy #esoteric contingent
< 1391823329 424568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's me)
< 1391823410 306545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1391823414 427040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: awesome
< 1391823428 221692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's like how I convinced Sgeo to learn Kernel
< 1391823443 429128 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1391823454 179438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except I still don't know Kernel
< 1391823463 924781 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda like me with Rust
< 1391823466 322410 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so, not like it, really"
< 1391823477 575395 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I told my friend not to learn it until it hits 1.0
< 1391823483 560857 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust, that is
< 1391823489 156432 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of these friends is writing a GNU Chess Twitter bot
< 1391823491 779674 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Rust
< 1391823507 681211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: well it's not like the concepts behind ownership, lifetimes, etc. will change
< 1391823516 911933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not too early to learn those
< 1391823520 217858 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: True, but stuff is still changing
< 1391823527 769174 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't expect the code you write to actually compile in a month :)
< 1391823532 362921 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error handling and such
< 1391823538 624665 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. it's too early to learn the std lib really
< 1391823538 804321 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused about the different kinds of pointers but I really just need to sit down and learn them
< 1391823556 204629 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Only three kinds I think
< 1391823572 583524 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 20 to 2 in the morning, I'm not gonna try and learn them now
< 1391823573 107308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: managed pointers are on their way out so all we have now is  owning pointers, references (formerly "borrowed pointers"), and C-style raw pointers
< 1391823588 977240 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-style you should already understand
< 1391823591 862761 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which twiddle are managed pointers?
< 1391823604 144967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :managed is (was) @T
< 1391823608 944251 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, okay
< 1391823609 859961 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uzagpzwtwpratfit JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391823610 39448 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: They're not called borrowed pointers anymore?
< 1391823615 817477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: nope!
< 1391823633 277139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the syntax is deprecated in favor of a library type Gc, which isn't actually GC'd yet (just refcounted) just like the old @ boxes
< 1391823668 646222 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, write code dependent on Gc being refcounted, so that the actual later type class thing whatever has to be GcActually
< 1391823712 683826 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :By and large I like the language :)
< 1391823741 452604 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus i'm so rusty with C i don't remember how to declare a constant. it doesn't have const does it? do i still #DEFINE shit
< 1391823782 507938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C does have a const declaration, but that isn't the use for it
< 1391823846 987659 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still need to get the hang of it
< 1391823853 847102 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I need to get the hang of not-Haskell
< 1391823855 726553 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the use for it isn't declaring constants?
< 1391823859 251700 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you should see my Python code)
< 1391823877 959579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C's const is just a qualifier on pointers
< 1391823901 286703 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamn it
< 1391823912 90529 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing has 'const std::string hw("Hello World\n");' how do i do that in C
< 1391823929 428198 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can it just be const char* hw = "Hello World\n" because that would make sense
< 1391823938 554304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm is that really true though? GCC will compile "const int x = 3;" as C but is that standard?
< 1391824000 910168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes, or const char hw[] = "Hello World\n";
< 1391824005 247631 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :const is a qualifier for any type
< 1391824012 266826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has slightly different semantics
< 1391824025 752555 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might as well learn the array pointer distinction some time
< 1391824028 603461 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the difference
< 1391824038 590083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :arrays and pointers are totally different
< 1391824044 900139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but arrays decay into pointers in some circumstances
< 1391824045 486284 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.
< 1391824058 891652 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :sizeof acts differently for arrays and pointers
< 1391824074 266269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got this link here but it's down now? http://mauke.hopto.org/stuff/c/array-pointer.html
< 1391824078 140358 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also array is declared as a storage but a pointer doesn't do that
< 1391824117 962423 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use const to declare a function that takes an array that has a minimum size
< 1391824178 735224 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to use a wrapper around this library but now i'm thinking i'm so bad with C i should write in C just to unfuck myself
< 1391824203 431974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so think of a static variable as just giving a name to some location in the binary.  the «char hw[]» example gives a name to a location where "Hello World\n" is stored; the «char *hw» example gives a name to a location where a pointer (i.e. 4 or 8 bytes) to some location containing "Hello World\n" is stored
< 1391824215 459742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it weren't const, you could reassing «char *hw» to point to another string but not «char hw[]»
< 1391824220 92592 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok hold on just a sec here
< 1391824225 711523 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it static?
< 1391824234 678610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, by static i don't just mean declared with the 'static' keyword
< 1391824238 893702 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know
< 1391824246 386959 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just... you're going to ahve to bear with me here
< 1391824253 474272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fmauke.hopto.org%2Fstuff%2Fc%2Farray-pointer.html
< 1391824258 256186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean anything declared with 'static' in a function or anything declared at the top level of a file, whether declared with 'static' or not
< 1391824269 570281 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :static in this context means it's like, not erased by the compiler or anything
< 1391824271 295641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. variables which live at a single fixed location in the loaded binary
< 1391824275 336977 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably something cleverer.
< 1391824287 296977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to normal function local variables, which live temporarily on the stack
< 1391824296 869392 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. makes sense.
< 1391824307 720588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is sort of an operational view rather than a semantic one
< 1391824314 643869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you kinda have to learn C from both ends
< 1391824321 984770 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the semantics don't make a lot of sense without the operational constraints
< 1391824362 827464 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway read shachaf's link
< 1391824370 963998 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight, all
< 1391824379 612614 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodnight
< 1391824391 237613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they say the first milestone to learning C is realizing that pointers and arrays are the same, and the second milestone is realizing that they aren't the same at all
< 1391824451 724206 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is sizeof on a pointer the size of "the pointer itself", like a word or whateverr
< 1391824455 762222 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1391824475 511875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a 64-bit machine, sizeof(foo*) == 8 regardless of what type foo is
< 1391824498 70274 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if i do char* hw = "Hello World" and sizeof it i'll get 1 or 4 or something (or uh, 8) but if i do char hw[] = "Hello World" i'll get 11?
< 1391824501 886320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on a typical 64-bit machine, ignoring exotic non-flat memory models and such)
< 1391824513 339881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: 12 because there's a null as well
< 1391824517 901796 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah.
< 1391824521 920191 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok cool that makes sense.
< 1391824558 495907 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in the second case, &hw is then the same as hw in the first case? (not counting allocation stuff or whatever, hopefully you know what i mean)
< 1391824582 996967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: &hw is the same as the result of hw decaying to a pointer, yeah
< 1391824587 719169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course sizeof(&hw) != sizeof(hw)
< 1391824590 763153 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that was static I was thinking of, not const
< 1391824599 883330 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :void someFunction(char someArray[static 100])
< 1391824600 63613 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1391824616 241001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta run, ttyl!
< 1391824620 959231 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then if i had the hw pointer version (call it hwp) then &hwp would be a pointer to hwp, which is totally different from &hw
< 1391824624 11884 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :later thanks
< 1391824799 619526 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :int64_t hw[] = {1,2,3,4}; will give you a sizeof of 32
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< 1391825881 577855 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ther esome constant to return from main instead of zero if i'm being incredibly anal
< 1391825909 328448 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of any such thing
< 1391825935 866606 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, something like RETURN_SUCCESS that's zero on everything except the fuckutron 9000
< 1391825943 482015 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wondering cos EXIT_SUCCESS and EXIT_FAILURE apparently exist
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< 1391827953 22211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the return codes from main are always the same as the arguments to exit(), I think
< 1391827970 885166 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1391828691 288626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cilantrocoin
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< 1391828835 822696 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does the name aaron todd ring a bell?
< 1391828867 222709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe
< 1391828869 312471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nick "toddaaro" does
< 1391828872 750886 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup
< 1391828909 770090 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's my new officemate! he said he knew (of?) you
< 1391828957 448538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1391828999 18310 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good news i have more C questions
< 1391829005 815005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray
< 1391829010 271243 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And we know all of C.
< 1391829022 33264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good news everybody!
< 1391829022 415882 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this API has a function for getting an array ("an array") of information, like a version string or suchlike
< 1391829054 430289 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the function is like get_version(size_t, char*, size_t*)
< 1391829083 811185 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you basically have to call it twice - the first time the first two arguments are NULL or w/e and you just want the size_t pointer, which tells you the size the result will be
< 1391829097 717828 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you call it with the third argument NULL and the first argument the third from last time
< 1391829101 183590 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not have two functions?
< 1391829140 817390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why two functions when you can have one
< 1391829148 820382 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this Windows?
< 1391829155 29054 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like Windows API design.
< 1391829162 645751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard of windows apis doing that
< 1391829171 555163 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not, but the billion NULLs everywhere did give me bad memories of windows
< 1391829192 717539 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, the goal is to avoid having to call malloc in the library, right, but like... bluh
< 1391829218 182304 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine the intent is that you can pass a buffer and the size of the buffer, and call a second time if you had to resize the buffer.
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< 1391829396 21520 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that sort of makes sense...
< 1391829430 253514 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: this thing returns a char[] technically. can i just assume that it's null terminated? (it is with my implementation but, anal)
< 1391829464 208524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean, assume it because of the type?
< 1391829480 337125 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the type and usual conventions.
< 1391829496 731047 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine it's possible to return a non-null-terminated char[], i'm just wondering if anyone does so.
< 1391829502 577757 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :without saying so, anyway
< 1391829520 789830 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's done, but it's also pretty explicitly said.
< 1391829533 276424 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The default assumption is that a char* is NUL terminated.
< 1391829535 715507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"returning a char[]" is kind of strange anyway
< 1391829536 658408 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. was kinda paranoid since i had the size of the string on hand and all.
< 1391829560 246703 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Unless the function returns a char[static 4] or something then it's just goofy.
< 1391829563 253857 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1391829563 893752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you're using char * strings in C they'll generally be \0-terminated, yes
< 1391829594 856784 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the api spec has "char[]". i actually have it using a char* without complaint, and i guess it's the same as a function argument anyway
< 1391829627 185205 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, in a function declaration it's just a really stupid way of writing char*.
< 1391829644 222029 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in the decl it's a void*... you know what i'm probably not describing this well anyway http://www.khronos.org/registry/cl/sdk/1.2/docs/man/xhtml/
< 1391829661 168792 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooooh, it's those idiots.
< 1391829670 341519 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They couldn't design a good API to save their lives.
< 1391829670 521220 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are khronos known idiots
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< 1391829679 659131 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, OpenGL is horrid.
< 1391829704 625487 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does this thing with "contexts" that i vaguely remember from opengl, in fact...
< 1391830002 537864 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How you'd do clGetPlatformInfo in a sane way is more like: char *cl_platform_info(int id);
< 1391830054 757023 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, no cl_int??
< 1391830067 9535 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cl_int is evidence of brain damage.
< 1391830084 910258 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :every C api i have ever used defines its own whatever_int whatever_char whatever_whatever
< 1391830103 8248 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is a cargo cult practice.
< 1391830116 209703 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, wait, i don't think memory pool system did. thanks, mps
< 1391830124 642924 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell do they do that, it's so confusing.
< 1391830133 528594 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure i've asked this before.
< 1391830149 559704 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea why it's done, I just know that it has literally no value.
< 1391830209 209170 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmm mps sorta does it
< 1391830209 389026 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, zlib is claimed to be a good library. Which is saddening.
< 1391830212 266301 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A transparent type is an alias defined using typedef, and this is documented so that the client program can rely on that fact. For example, mps_addr_t is a transparent alias for void *. Transparent types express intentions in the interface: in the case of mps_addr_t it represents a pointer that is under the control of the MPS."
< 1391830251 679571 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which seems kind of weird still, but at least there's no mps_int_t.
< 1391830256 780085 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree with that choice, but that is at least someone being reasonable.
< 1391830278 715331 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that library does not strictly conform to C. :P
< 1391830292 427379 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*_t is reserved namespace.
< 1391830293 191026 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, you can't typedef with void* or something?
< 1391830295 70305 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1391830306 727155 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, whoops, that's all over the place.
< 1391830332 128860 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. That too is cargo culted from people seeing it in libc a lot.
< 1391830332 308904 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION glances through other api docs, finds plenty of size_t and va_list at least
< 1391830343 938575 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where it's used a lot *because it's reserved for libc*.
< 1391830349 485984 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh.
< 1391830394 519287 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is, you can't make your own types ending in _t. Because that's reserved.
< 1391830414 986214 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, sure.
< 1391830420 124760 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like a weirdo hungarian thing, i guess.
< 1391830454 200326 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :More a "C has no namespacing whatsoever" thing.
< 1391830455 103595 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i first started programming i tried a lot of C but never quite understood it because of things like this that are never explained. being a programmer in that sort of environment seems demoralizing.
< 1391830484 491000 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is largely a matter of no good books on the subject existing.
< 1391830502 900359 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly Learn C in 24 Hours wasn't the best choice on my part
< 1391830504 843912 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p
< 1391830510 390553 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because many C programmers learned C from cargo culting in the 80s.
< 1391830591 469899 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started learning C by writing programs that crash a lot. I still haven't left that phase.
< 1391830659 438848 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: so with your sane way - that means the cl library handles the malloc-ing?
< 1391830687 160809 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. It returns a pointer to a fixed, constant buffer in the library.
< 1391830766 346090 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i see. i don't think it's necessarily that fixed though.
< 1391830777 551051 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i just noticed these Get functions are allowed to return OOM codes anyway.
< 1391830787 556101 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*facepalm*
< 1391830789 377022 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's cool
< 1391830802 877785 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is all so efficient!
< 1391830820 139325 :impomatic!~john_metc@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1391830855 56399 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another way to handle it, if it can't be fixed or even fixed in size, is: char *cl_platform_info(char **, size_t *);
< 1391830864 935405 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wherein it'll call realloc for you if necessary.
< 1391830894 231236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that assumes a lot about how you'll be doing memory management
< 1391830907 164178 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How so?
< 1391830944 474444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that your string will be allocated by malloc()
< 1391831324 191595 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, in this case the cl_uint etc. thing might be justified, since cl defines a C-ish language for devices that aren't the host, so uint on the host may not be the device's uint, so they call the latter cl_uint
< 1391831331 657597 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :except there's no way the device is calling these functions.
< 1391831657 596485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we can expect internal chip speeds to increase by a factor of approximately 13 overall up to 2012, when the clock rates reach about 10GHz"
< 1391831677 372031 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o
< 1391831690 971010 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem!
< 1391831716 108395 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C APIs have so many wacky ways to manage memory... in this sense Rust actually has *fewer* pointer types than C ;)
< 1391831775 943152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that Rust's different pointer types are checked by the compiler, rather than being something you have to hold in your head and never ever screw up or you get pwned
< 1391831841 753517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ooh are you using MPS?
< 1391831848 93255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MPS seems pretty shiny
< 1391831859 670954 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's just what comes to mind when i think of "C API that i can remotely understand"
< 1391831872 265378 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1391831873 766577 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be nice to have to use it
< 1391832180 228944 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm this thing says a return value can be "a combination of" a bunch of opaque constants
< 1391832199 78609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_;
< 1391832205 989604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they probably mean a bitwise OR
< 1391832213 797990 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably
< 1391832221 766953 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but who knows
< 1391832254 238319 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Currently supported values are one of or a combination of: CL_DEVICE_TYPE_CPU, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_GPU, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_ACCELERATOR, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_DEFAULT, a combination of the above types, or CL_DEVICE_TYPE_CUSTOM. " kinda redundant actually
< 1391832472 169680 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool gcc doesn't recognize CL_DEVICE_TYPE_CUSTOM, maybe i can "file a bug"
< 1391832586 253852 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey sweet these things have popcnt. finally good news.
< 1391832608 849162 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the GPU. what's a GPU do with popcnt? hell if i know but i'm excited to find out.
< 1391832699 801897 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if pikhq would like the thirty lines beginning with "typedef cl_uint"
< 1391832734 95645 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"WARNING!  Unlike cl_ types in cl_platform.h, cl_bool is not guaranteed to be the same size as the bool in kernels." what's the point of anything life is meaningless
< 1391833668 603041 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ran all resplicate sequences of the form 6 3 10 1 62 n 1 for all odd numbers up to 500 and classified them according to what they did long-term.
< 1391833699 76948 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out 6 3 10 1 6 2 459 1 is a period 9808 oscillator
< 1391833706 604634 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or rather, becomes one)
< 1391833718 6758 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1391833886 141377 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1391834357 217051 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I be concerned that a Racket dev is pointing to node.js as an example of why I shouldn't complain about something that Racket does?
< 1391834368 248720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1391834379 771790 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the sense of 'it worked for node.js, it would work for us'
< 1391834421 253683 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/Racket/comments/1w88rq/social_solution_to_a_technical_problem/cf9vy4g?context=3
< 1391834452 988249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok
< 1391834481 744468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly ironic because of the multi-year fight over who gets to be "node" in Debian
< 1391834556 788169 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 6 3 10 1 6 2 383 1 converges to the 688-twos oscillator after 42,118 cycles.
< 1391834572 360457 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :METHUSELAH
< 1391834705 881256 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: port syntax-parse to Rust
< 1391834714 182997 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no u
< 1391834729 521416 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I wonder if Racket's syntax-parse, when told that something is an expression, will expand it to check
< 1391834771 930285 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I want to write a more hygienic syntax-quasiquote
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< 1391835748 715121 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that thing you linked me. Haven't watched yet, but I assume it's intended to be if the language has already been implemented, and starting from scratch things could have been done differently, this wouldn't be needed?
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< 1391836147 299264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know
< 1391836474 523383 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391836638 456778 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should I be twitching in discomfort at a templating system that picks up on the lexical environment of the include-template?
< 1391836681 682268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask your doctor if you should be twitching
< 1391836964 748345 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's anything like the feeling I get when I pass locals() to a Django template...
< 1391836972 512667 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :D:
< 1391837028 688558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: obviously the template code should be rewritten to use the 'inspect' module to read its caller's locals implicitly
< 1391837031 703218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D :D :D
< 1391837093 391831 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Anything that makes us more like PHP has to be good, right?"
< 1391837175 494219 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sinners, sinners, i'm surrounded by iniquity
< 1391837204 938370 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not too late to renounce the material world and become a monk!
< 1391837235 54219 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, no, I think Perl ruined that one.
< 1391837256 277806 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yeah, you're screwed.
< 1391837273 210577 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else is new
< 1391837428 293229 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Winter Olympics?
< 1391837481 549201 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've been having those forever.
< 1391837494 606178 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need something fresh!!
< 1391837730 740261 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like you won't be satisfied with anything but the blood of the innocent.
< 1391837746 531137 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well obviously
< 1391837837 143597 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll have to ask kmc for that.
< 1391838043 536743 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc what's the market price of innocent blood
< 1391838572 854567 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391838763 256686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeez it's so hard to get ever since silk road shut down
< 1391838825 114662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only since 1924, that's hardly "forever"
< 1391839202 834229 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try Light Table
< 1391839221 384525 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'm willing to like Smalltalk merely because of the IDE, trying a 'good' IDE for a language I once liked shouldn't be painful
< 1391839229 898194 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's not like I have new reason to dislike Clojure
< 1391839440 246826 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 QUIT :Quit: quit
< 1391840644 358689 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should have known "typedef intptr_t cl_context_properties" wasn't going to end well. it ended with clCreateContext({CL_CONTEXT_PLATFORM, (cl_context_properties)(platform[0]), 0}, ...)
< 1391840688 765178 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw cl_uint isn't a mere unsigned int, it's actually unsigned __int32
< 1391841606 702374 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indiscretioncoin grittiercoin cockamamiecoin weepcoin manslaughtercoin gloamingcoin kebabcoin yawncoin snackcoin spaghetticoin
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< 1391841860 895488 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :weepcoin sounds useful and fun
< 1391841999 758409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mine weepcoins by weeping
< 1391842010 339426 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit i'm way ahead of the market
< 1391842015 918117 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo hugcoin
< 1391842134 459160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Matthew Green's rationale for launching Zerocoin as a new currency: "If people will put money into Dogecoin, they’ll put it into anything"
< 1391842496 543656 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a more entertaining read, The Reasoned Schemer, or Purely Functional Data Structures?
< 1391842534 66305 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommend some karel čapek.
< 1391842534 808811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the former is more entertaining but i care more about the results in the latter
< 1391842580 780358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your goal is entertainment there are also other books you could read that would satisfy it even better
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< 1391847089 216873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kalecoin
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< 1391847409 135196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1391847410 795883 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rflcercoin percoin 90pcoin demcoin 3trecoin rtnencoin um-32coin sheavoignacoin cystoccoin undennecoin goto++coin vernankcoin wildcoin rssbcoin fortcoin chrcoin iotcoin gagnacoin tace1.0coin spartneratemlcoin
< 1391847426 375406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :90pcoin, the cryptocurrency for the 90%.
< 1391847589 406893 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_________: this seems like something you'd like: http://dorrismccomics.com/post/6384447758
< 1391848336 620725 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bfut4WoCQAAdY3o.jpg
< 1391848420 552972 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If the Perl 5 interpreter source were lost, I'm pretty sure we as a species could not accurately recreate it."
< 1391848451 574191 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: heh.
< 1391848837 805776 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2014/02/07/finnish_police_probe_wikipedia_donation_requests   that'll teach them
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< 1391854766 73235 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I installing EiffelStudio?
< 1391855141 613526 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you asking us
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< 1391857866 805464 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/gallery/nfRsdYe
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< 1391866724 853779 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Breaking Baryons http://youtu.be/eI91bT-p5Oc | Desperately Seeking Susy http://youtu.be/3vM5u3VT_WE
< 1391866935 28140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got my Heart on a String
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< 1391868734 437867 :itsy!~digital_w@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Core War tournament has just been announced  http://youtu.be/41GIevxobH0 (more details tomorrow)
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< 1391871723 672366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ELLIPSIS
< 1391871724 297810 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown character.
< 1391871740 844380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS
< 1391871741 558534 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :…
< 1391872095 12673 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan
< 1391872129 589172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello just confirming one of your conjectures
< 1391872141 500671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and making your python work)
< 1391872163 889332 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode PILE OF SHIT
< 1391872164 677182 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown character.
< 1391872167 517782 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww.
< 1391872171 709188 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was it called?
< 1391872177 118530 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :my local copy works perfectly!
< 1391872180 891809 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode PILE OF POO
< 1391872181 625222 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown character.
< 1391872230 114738 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPH E017
< 1391872230 819560 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :𓃥
< 1391872236 694314 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably the wiki version isn't the same as my local version. i updated them together rather than copypasting)
< 1391872260 5925 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which conjecture did you confirm
< 1391872263 473795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm is the remainder a conjecture at all
< 1391872274 220308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The family 6 3 10 1 6 2 (2k) 1 for k at least 12 always becomes an oscillator of period k-1."
< 1391872310 297303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just tracing it by hand, and doing the python on a couple examples to check i didn't mess up
< 1391872454 885113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: HackEgo has a copy of python that cannot handle all of unicode.
< 1391872456 951537 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i don't understand your proof. the last line and 6th line look nothing the same... :P
< 1391872469 55097 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Fix it!
< 1391872488 706246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :6th last line, quintopia 
< 1391872502 172057 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1391872527 740693 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes
< 1391872546 39941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: too much work, especially while HackEgo is otherwise somewhat broken (but don't count on me doing it anyway)
< 1391872566 482891 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah :-(
< 1391872610 199778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1391872640 791075 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i ran 6 3 10 1 6 2 n 1 for all odds up to 500 and categorized the long-term behavior for each one. i can uncover no pattern.
< 1391872686 107317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.
< 1391872747 368546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed a miscounting in the description.
< 1391872787 77873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i somehow looked at the wrong vertical ellipsis when counting the first time
< 1391874641 88262 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391875435 581666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you might want the little resplicate building block i made
< 1391875474 967283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's OK, I already proved it TC
< 1391875478 402803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ResPlicate's TC
< 1391875485 280923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay!
< 1391875542 258977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and a little aww, too)
< 1391875629 825944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oerjan: http://nethack4.org/esolangs/resplicate/tag-to-resplicate.pl http://nethack4.org/esolangs/resplicate/tc-proof-notes.txt
< 1391875662 328384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tag system to resplicate compiler, notes I wrote when creating it (so you can get some insight into how I go about proving languages TC)
< 1391875677 16835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm almost inspired to make a tarpit version now (which would probably be more complex than the original)
< 1391875686 977206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :resplicate has a whole bunch of capabilities that aren't particularly useful
< 1391875737 528116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, that compiler uses -1 for cells that never execute
< 1391875746 942807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if that technically complies with the language definition
< 1391875761 867892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does not
< 1391876282 99442 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just substitute any other number, though
< 1391876288 354362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me go change it
< 1391876362 369392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now it uses 523
< 1391876460 75009 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: actually the TCness proof was pretty routine
< 1391876472 348854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was only one difficult bit, remembering where the IP was after copying the alphabet
< 1391876533 223457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that interp's got a lot more complex overnight
< 1391876575 837662 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391877366 605037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm reading your .txt, i think the part about being allowed to copy misaligned alphabets is important for being able to perform a command in a single pass of the queue, which is also alas why you won't be needing anything like the nice building block i made
< 1391877392 767076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I feel like there may be some complex solution that doesn't require misaligned alphabets
< 1391877412 26109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's not much point, because resplicate isn't really a tarpit, it has a whole range of different things you can do
< 1391877440 300451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my vague thoughts (which i tried not to think _too_ much about since i knew you were working on it) was that you'd need a second pass through to clean up afterwards, which is why i thought such a "stabilizer" was needed when you went through the rest of the queue
< 1391877496 357668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also i was thinking cyclic tag instead, which i now realize is more complicated.
< 1391877521 112617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because you have state that needs to be passed on)
< 1391877575 185317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/you have/cyclic tag has/
< 1391877622 735756 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyclic tag is basically one of the simplest models for "the program and data are separate" models
< 1391877640 878170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have to mix them up, then you can use tag, which basically just needs a queue and a lookup table
< 1391877653 5316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lookup tables are awkward in many languages, but pretty easy in ResPlicate
< 1391877686 632900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1391877846 66629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the only tricky issue in ResPlicate is trying to distribute copies of the lookup table where you need them, while not losing track of what you're doing in the process
< 1391878590 810936 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/newly-tenured-professor-now-inspired-to-work-harde,35169/?utm_source=butt&utm_medium=butt&utm_campaign=butt
< 1391878813 697320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with all the key=butt in the query string?
< 1391878879 784767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: You should get to the bottom of this
< 1391878890 824552 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It had some more boring tracking information but i fixed it.
< 1391878904 316618 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right
< 1391878935 263085 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't you delete it though...
< 1391878966 453109 :MoALTz!~no@host86-137-47-253.range86-137.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391879033 653884 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: That would result in a lack of butts in some httpd log.
< 1391879054 923656 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. Try uploading a file that is not an image. http://i.srsfckn.biz/
< 1391879149 696398 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :colorful.
< 1391879184 621241 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't like .xpm
< 1391879185 240920 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sniff.
< 1391879244 690890 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or windows bitmaps. is it jpg and png only?
< 1391879291 385331 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :curl: (26) failed creating formpost data
< 1391879317 213480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happen if the file has extra data on the end?
< 1391879320 77965 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, gif, too.
< 1391879358 414279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind I figured out the problem
< 1391879443 396660 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't mind extra data.
< 1391879525 886788 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I convert it into CP437 encoding?
< 1391879606 767975 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I figured out I have iconv in MinGW
< 1391879701 170871 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.srsfckn.biz/95.png
< 1391879731 143911 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1391880016 260715 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1391880043 462189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried uploading a ZIP archive by prepending a 1x1 PNG file and it works
< 1391880119 908419 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.srsfckn.biz/3B2.png
< 1391880197 288113 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rw-a--     2.0 fat     6294 b- defN 14-Feb-08 09:12 pic.ans
< 1391880266 131915 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is what it is done
< 1391880309 751376 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such a file can be unzipped even though it is uploading as PNG
< 1391881211 744287 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@82.221.102.34 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391881401 196984 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-16406.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1391882658 653967 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can you make nethack4 deliver pl files with a text/plain mime type please?
< 1391882671 891604 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd rather examine code in browser
< 1391882704 204375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: hmm, is there any way to get your browser to override the MIME type?
< 1391882716 864892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the current situation because then I get syntax highlighting
< 1391882792 520303 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know of any way for dolphin
< 1391882808 395715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you use a filesystem browser as a web browser?
< 1391882816 830761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140208-pi2.jpg <- it's a Raspberry Pi. (Well, part of it.)
< 1391882818 821866 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are there /three/ programs called dolphin?
< 1391882822 348200 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mobile browser not the file system browser
< 1391882837 981388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, right, there are at least three programs called dolphin
< 1391882850 716882 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :three programs...plus gamecube
< 1391882867 942422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the gamecube emulator's named after the gamecube's codename
< 1391882873 293115 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that isn't really surprising
< 1391882896 408029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I remember seeing someone complaining that their computer thought that their gamecube emulator was a file manager and kept trying to open directories in it…)
< 1391882968 672388 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long until gamecube emulator for mobile
< 1391882999 212957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say it'd be a while before mobile phone have enough power, a few years at least
< 1391883055 467685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even on PCs, gamecube emulators don't have accurate timings for reading from CD yet
< 1391883064 227887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which completely changes the strategy for some games
< 1391883165 913298 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391883211 156449 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what mime type does it actually deliver .py as? i'll search for plugins or something
< 1391883216 883578 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*.pl
< 1391883279 319992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Content-Type: application/x-perl
< 1391883296 63263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, had to go tell my browser to capture the HTTP headers, browsers tend not to do that by default
< 1391883336 195935 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1391883336 875572 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1391883505 228079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gah, now I'm thinking about the 1D MMO again
< 1391883513 384460 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one of #esoteric's sillier ideas
< 1391883565 384379 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's at least one 1D shooter, Lineality.
< 1391883575 568260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://archive.org/details/Lineality
< 1391883593 259798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, in a 1D shooter, it seems quite hard to miss
< 1391883600 167895 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's not online at all, though.)
< 1391883611 82669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of mechanics are used to make the shooting part interesting? you have to get the range accurate?
< 1391883630 920799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember. It's possible that no effort was spent to make it an interesting game.
< 1391883696 881125 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can select between "Width Mode", "Height Mode" and "Depth Mode", which I think control the direction of the line.
< 1391883701 640720 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can also optionally rotate.
< 1391883778 16574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you get to choose the direction to shoot at, and enemies drop life.
< 1391883789 777244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose there's some amount of strategy involved in deciding when to turn around.
< 1391884015 126136 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an MMO on a tape would be cute
< 1391884128 318437 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you ever feel disappointed that your gpu isn't four dimensional because i do
< 1391884338 758357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: modern GPUs are perfectly capable of doing four-dimensional calculations (then rendering them to 3D, then 2D for the screen)
< 1391884348 218786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the GPU itself is three-dimensional
< 1391884354 507080 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't have 4d work groups though
< 1391884379 146067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, most GPU programming languages don't let you mess around with the 5x5 matrices you'd need
< 1391884380 453916 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :256×256×256 max. tyrannical
< 1391884386 28184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CUDA and OpenCL do
< 1391884410 831830 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's pretty minor, given that if you're creating a "256x256x256" group it's basically just concatenating the bits of the three coordinates
< 1391884417 583773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just modulo them out of the block number by hand
< 1391884432 525776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some GPUs even have shift operations nowadays
< 1391884465 745317 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's just not the same, man!
< 1391884521 877088 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i'm going to write my first gpgpu program up in here. gonna square an array. shit yeah.
< 1391884542 306699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh boy, have fun
< 1391884548 627211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we use that as a GPU optimization test for our students sometimes
< 1391884560 677891 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are mindbogglingly high numbers of ways to screw that up performance-wise
< 1391884572 301737 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think you should have support just arbitrary dimensional
< 1391884575 347107 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking about what would make a good "hello world" but matrix*vector and summing a vector both seemed too complicated
< 1391884579 566835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if you write a naive matrix-squaring program, there are at least 8 optimizations you can do
< 1391884610 463656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: basically the way it works is that the GPU can handle a limited number of "blocks" at any given time, which are basically the large scheduling units of the GPU
< 1391884614 204233 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tutorial i'm going off of uses an actual hello world. like what, this is a fucking gpu
< 1391884651 472425 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it raytrace "Hello world!"?
< 1391884657 95686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you want blocks to have high data locality, i.e. you want to reduce the amount of memory that each individual block accesses as far as possible
< 1391884659 422607 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that seems like something that'd be sensical to do on a GPU
< 1391884666 468691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the blocks have numbers that are just integers (typically 24-bit)
< 1391884673 247060 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it just has each unit put a single letter into a string
< 1391884677 183992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it often makes sense to interpret them as coordinates
< 1391884680 502264 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, boring
< 1391884685 177651 :MoALTz!~no@host86-137-47-253.range86-137.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1391884696 152843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: actually, GPU-accelerated memcpy is a pretty good hello world
< 1391884708 864490 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :memcpy maybe, but this is a constant...
< 1391884722 377785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I wasn't suggesting for a hello world
< 1391884735 529265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as a first project that isn't very difficult yet is the sort of task GPUs are actually good at
< 1391884753 916301 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i figure elementwise squaring shouldn't be hard.
< 1391884755 304831 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-26098944
< 1391884760 100416 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :way to not sound sinister bbc
< 1391884767 154404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack 4 uses GPU acceleration for copying rectangular areas around in video memory (and occasionally alpha-blending), that's about it
< 1391884773 151855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet it still helps a lot because GPUs are very fast
< 1391884777 7103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh, element-wise
< 1391884779 228846 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only taking time because the only tutorial i found is in C++ and kind of fucked up
< 1391884784 482479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you mean multiplying an array by itself
< 1391884786 71738 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack 4 uses the gpu???
< 1391884788 482901 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were you thinking? cross product?
< 1391884798 572612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_________: only in tiles or faketerm mode
< 1391884801 307172 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also yeah i'm excited to hear even term roguelikes are high-end now
< 1391884811 380985 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw I was hoping it was just for internal optimisation
< 1391884818 752861 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. alpha blending? what?
< 1391884830 668096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: in case it wants to draw "monster on stairs" or whatever
< 1391884839 338055 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dag
< 1391884860 398148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conditionals are really hard to do on a GPU, turns out that alpha blending (multiplying by 1 or 0) is actually faster than using an if statement to do transparency any other way
< 1391884887 535221 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol.
< 1391884891 751183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, they're not /hard/, you can write them just fine
< 1391884896 323012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but GPUs are not fast at evaluating them
< 1391884906 435467 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they have any branch prediction?
< 1391884913 494904 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt it but
< 1391884975 488038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they actually /can't/ have branch prediction, the way they work, because absolutely everythig is SIMD
< 1391884996 984921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if statements tend to be very slow unless the entire warp takes the same branch, as a result
< 1391885004 483711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it has to process the branches separately
< 1391885047 109140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GPUs do something that's similar in nature to branch prediction, though
< 1391885047 861171 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :warp?
< 1391885066 616109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a block tries to access data, it'll deschedule it while it's waiting for the data to arrive from RAM
< 1391885085 194832 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a half-warp is the unit that actually runs on a GPU at once
< 1391885114 923591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it has one ALU for each thread in the half-warp, they all run in perfect lock-step (sufficiently so that if you know what the GPU's warp size is, you can get away with not adding in synchronization primitives)
< 1391885152 675192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :current GPUs take one clock cycle to write the value back into block memory, so you effectively have an entire warp running concurrently
< 1391885173 767953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GPU programming languages tend to abstract away the existence of warps, you work at the thread or block level
< 1391885247 261891 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :blugh, it's going to suck figuring out how to write a kernel for the actual thing i'm writing. i'm porting it from matlab full of branches V_V
< 1391885263 685140 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not-independent for loop iterations
< 1391885270 110803 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good time to have zero experience with concurrency
< 1391885341 932153 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can NetHack 4 run in text mode and not use GPU (such as if it is not available)?
< 1391885376 305702 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: There is Checkout on esolang wiki though, but no implementation (as far as I know)
< 1391885437 35972 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he wrote it.
< 1391885524 99469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it can run in text mode without the GPU
< 1391886070 341591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some day I'd like to write a game entirely on the GPU, that sounds like it could be fun
< 1391886187 929984 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do a multiline string in C again
< 1391886222 127659 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"first line\n" (put a literal newline here) "second line\n" and so on
< 1391886249 178894 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C ignores doublequote, whitespace, doublequote sequences in strings
< 1391886275 654235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also ignores backslash-newline sequences anywhere but that's typically a bad idea to use because that doesn't let you indent the line afterwards
< 1391886286 226657 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. well that's convenient
< 1391886299 290885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did program a bit more of "Savant's Maze" roguelike game; now it is possible to pick up items and list them in your inventory. However, a curse affects all items of the same kind so if you have a cursed scroll of knight move and pick up an uncursed one, that one will become cursed too, or if you have an uncursed one and pick up a cursed one, both will become cursed.
< 1391886348 290703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing a backslash-newline in the middle of a keyword is typically frowned on
< 1391886384 448191 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1391887235 257203 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: I found 1 in /dev/zero
< 1391887294 505810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the backslash-newline thing was invented for the same reason as trigraphs, so that you could write a very simple mechanical translator from C-code-I-found-on-Usenet (the Web didn't exist back then) to C-code-that-fits-my-machine's-text-encoding
< 1391887307 612834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case, to deal with line length issues rather than character set issues
< 1391887323 82101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back in the days of punched cards, there were literal limits on the longest lines it was possible to store in text files
< 1391887327 988568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, hmm
< 1391887335 29855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if punched cards and Usenet coexisted, it seems unlikely
< 1391887345 334122 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly punched-card machines were still in use as Usenet were starting, but not widespread
< 1391887644 160110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I think that given the design of C, the most likely explanation is that they did it like that just in case someone wanted to use it with a punched card machine at some point
< 1391887882 141239 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391888154 260795 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "\      \"
< 1391888156 136505 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ""
< 1391888578 931454 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: interesting use of backslashes
< 1391888585 776520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you put stuff other than whitespace in between them?
< 1391888596 877546 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what about in comments?
< 1391888607 260129 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :backslash-newline in C, I mean
< 1391888614 183741 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you can backslash-newline inside comments, including // comments
< 1391888619 289426 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice
< 1391888623 920067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a great way to troll people, I think gcc warns about it nowadays
< 1391888629 733230 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe "nice" is not the right word
< 1391888631 799467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also backslash-newline between the / and * or * and /
< 1391888638 272455 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's quite hard to make that look like an accident
< 1391888660 273490 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "\   a   \"
< 1391888661 961131 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:6:
< 1391888662 140680 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :     lexical error in string/character literal at character 'a'
< 1391888708 604418 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine you could camouflage it in line comments doing something like   /// this is a comment \\\
< 1391888709 584341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be fun, although kind-of pointless, if strings allowed comments in them
< 1391888725 173787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C you can do that using "hello "/* this is a comment */"world"
< 1391888756 350637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because comments are transformed to whitespace before string literals are concatenated
< 1391888973 732236 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's even better with trigraphs
< 1391888976 62622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : // Will the next line be executed????????????????/
< 1391888976 648850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : a++;
< 1391889078 767162 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :more C questions. i have a const char[] source at toplevel. in a function when i try declaring "char[][] sources = {source}" gcc tells me the element type is incomplete.
< 1391889159 106903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't define an array of things whose size is unknown
< 1391889173 550677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the size of char[] is unknown (unlike, say, char[10])
< 1391889189 172398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would probably use:  char *sources[]
< 1391889202 471976 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1391889205 197646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is an array of char*
< 1391889249 327125 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that works (once i add a const), thanks
< 1391889369 806639 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :const char *foo[] is an array of const char*, right? can i make the array itself constant (not really necessary, but)
< 1391889537 734758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :const char * const foo[]
< 1391889563 319555 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elegant
< 1391889566 607326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's uncommon though
< 1391889568 875556 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391889585 355318 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's pointless here
< 1391889591 507036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people get more particular about const in C++
< 1391889594 814333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in some styles of C++
< 1391889615 749311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which cdecl
< 1391889616 403237 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1391889618 635798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo
< 1391889651 299911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can use it on the web here: http://cdecl.org/
< 1391889654 339926 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :C syntax is kinda weird
< 1391889654 684382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"declare foo as array of const pointer to const char"
< 1391889669 761505 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :like,  int typedef foo;  being legal, since typedefs are just regular declarations
< 1391889684 95699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yeah
< 1391889706 25149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a certain degree of internal consistency ("declaration follows use!") but it's a /bad/ rule even if there is a rule
< 1391889731 30479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :const int (* volatile bar)[64]   // ;___;
< 1391889731 210577 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had this idea that i could use {...} as a constant literal nameless array because of the initializer syntax
< 1391889734 9664 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That part is somewhat reasonable-ish I find
< 1391889734 189262 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a fool i was!
< 1391889745 504317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to define a function that returns pointers to arrays
< 1391889751 985827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure if it's legal
< 1391889752 382259 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, at least it's not completely weird once you understand what's going on
< 1391889762 357022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why not?
< 1391889764 689861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with declaration follows use, the resulting syntaxes are beautifully bizarre
< 1391889770 662695 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some new things are allowed in GNU C though
< 1391889775 749497 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"char * const (*(* const bar)[5])(int )" lol
< 1391889817 947116 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you get types that complex the only reasonable approach is typedefs
< 1391889830 230890 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok let me see if i can untangle it without this site
< 1391889830 593980 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see; function taking void, returning pointer to int[2], would be by declaration-follows-use int *(func(void))[2]
< 1391889830 773849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of typedefs
< 1391889862 666677 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: What does int typedef foo; mean?
< 1391889867 779142 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :.............
< 1391889869 622249 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i give up.
< 1391889872 336244 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as   typedef int foo;
< 1391889876 270945 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok
< 1391889880 352565 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`typedef` is just a storage specifiec IIRC
< 1391889881 42458 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: typedef`: not found
< 1391889882 382867 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifier*
< 1391889894 652833 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1391889898 389995 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So same as const and static?
< 1391889915 66554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1391889926 817732 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think you might need to write that as "int *(func(void))[static 2]" to have it not be literally the same as returning an int**. :)
< 1391889931 174446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cdecl translates "declare f as function (void) returning pointer to array 2 of int" to "int (*f(void ))[2]"
< 1391889947 968952 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: doesn't it returns a variably modified type anyway?
< 1391889978 294248 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but with [static 2] it's a constraint violation to return a buffer with fewer than 2 elements.
< 1391889989 294842 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet, i got my segfault again
< 1391889995 342239 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :woooyeah livin the dream
< 1391889999 995801 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[static 2] is a wonderfully obscure corner of C99 :)
< 1391890002 820824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with [*]
< 1391890009 76440 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm quite fond of it. :)
< 1391890011 824043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too
< 1391890014 891383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I learned it from you here :)
< 1391890016 402680 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even sure what that does
< 1391890020 292412 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, now I am I guess
< 1391890022 287349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int [fungot 2];
< 1391890022 823021 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't think you can make clumsy, kludgey workarounds. the interviewee thought it was
< 1391890024 503250 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not like those features of C99
< 1391890030 585077 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The really nice thing about [static 2] is, it even *has a point*.
< 1391890040 382292 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly i think i'd be happy just if [] went on the type instead of the name
< 1391890047 181699 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: int foo[static 1] is a non-nullable pointer. :)
< 1391890048 264738 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and function pointer type syntax just... died in a hole somewhere
< 1391890051 808663 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot does not approve of C99's obscure corners
< 1391890051 988673 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i could be
< 1391890059 301183 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: make your mind up
< 1391890059 562433 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: though right now i'm putting the finishing touches on it.)
< 1391890063 266287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's stronger than just a non-nullable pointer
< 1391890075 464340 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Such thing is worthless as far as I can tell.
< 1391890077 659713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[static 2] is a promise to the compiler, right? not anything the compiler will check for you (unless you get lucky with warnings)
< 1391890081 71195 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391890087 797953 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Right, yes.
< 1391890094 379207 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a bunch of things I thought was weird when I looked through http://www.lysator.liu.se/c/ANSI-C-grammar-y.html once
< 1391890110 965198 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[static 1] is *essentially* a non-nullable pointer though. As it guarantees it'll point to a valid buffer with at least one element.
< 1391890111 586168 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think i need to queue up a read even though it's synced to host memory
< 1391890112 877260 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatevs
< 1391890118 502743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#include \\int (*f(void ))[2] {\  return malloc (2 * sizeof (int));\}\\int main(void) {\  int (*x)[2] = f();\  free(x);\  return 0;\}
< 1391890124 958346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's a C program with \ rather than newline)
< 1391890127 725576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does actually compile and run
< 1391890142 825505 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it's non-nullable but it also has to point to memory which is mapped, and is of the appropriate type
< 1391890155 24262 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods
< 1391890163 839887 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw: in this thing there's a setup to wait for something on the event queue to finish, but you can also specify that the i/o operation you're enqueuing should block
< 1391890168 992297 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can't be UB to dereference it. Slightly stronger, yeah.
< 1391890179 600812 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There Is More Than One Way To Do It And They're All Kind Of Weird
< 1391890227 280117 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think the way BLISS does it is better? Nice features of BLISS are not found in C or any other modern programming languages I know of.
< 1391890251 85787 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes.
< 1391890263 147633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is C a modern programming language? it's more like a coelacanth to me
< 1391890274 797810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "coelacanth" mean?
< 1391890286 66346 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1391890291 240228 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The coelacanth is a fish famous for being "evolutionarily old".
< 1391890291 826835 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1391890301 471630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a type of fish which has not evolved much in the past 400 million years
< 1391890302 690809 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the species has been "basically the same" for "a very long time"
< 1391890325 575333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're kinda ugly
< 1391890337 296923 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mom
< 1391890348 405805 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp
< 1391890355 427153 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's believed to be closely related with the first tetrapods.
< 1391890364 341937 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :refer to previous message
< 1391890372 122202 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the point is that C isn't a modern programming language, says kmc
< 1391890380 540209 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still kickin'
< 1391890383 185362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1391890388 623416 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not, since it doesn't have legs, just fins
< 1391890391 99547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C will outlive the human race
< 1391890408 770880 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, did we put it on some space probe?
< 1391890415 979594 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my opinion is that C99 and C11 and so on are trying to improve C in the wrong way.
< 1391890432 552076 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo is strongly opposed to jaws and adaptive immune systems
< 1391890445 798681 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :~biology joke~
< 1391890494 722427 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i suppose coelacanths have those. boring.
< 1391890526 621065 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna go bunch a shark
< 1391890549 589937 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw the way bones develop is completely insane, i see why sharks don't wanna
< 1391890555 559350 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they look like tampons with a billion eyes......................
< 1391890560 795042 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D http://ponzi.io/
< 1391890582 674447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: yeah wtf
< 1391890587 861679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sound of a thousand economists' heads exploding
< 1391890618 281453 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are these numbers real...
< 1391890656 552183 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"STILL WAITING TO MY 0.017728BTC FROM YESTERDAY. 3-4 TIMES WORKED FOR ME THEN GRABBED ALL MY MONEY." holy shit
< 1391890659 584576 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is beautiful
< 1391890676 120145 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP INVEST IF YOU WANT TO LOOOSE YOUR MONEY!
< 1391890705 878430 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Support for zero length arrays is a good way to improve C.
< 1391890759 520834 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so that amount of BTC is about twelve bucks right now
< 1391890767 521210 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes it even better.
< 1391890788 879377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1BTC is such a large unit that it's hard to get a mental grasp on it
< 1391890808 837831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not clicking the link, but is that site basically a ponzi scheme that's totally upfront about it?
< 1391890814 682882 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup.
< 1391890816 214530 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.\
< 1391890823 566502 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has two hundred something btc in it.
< 1391890846 910963 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if .01 btc is about twelve bucks, 1 btc is 1200 bucks. more than that cos of the other digits. that's not hard to grasp.
< 1391890848 356487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, isn't that like a hundred thousand dollars?
< 1391890865 997611 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful, isn't it?
< 1391890873 228009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've taken in about $160,000 yeah
< 1391890876 103371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and paid out most of it
< 1391890888 242654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of how bitcoin works you can at least verify that everyone in the past has gotten paid back
< 1391890894 587236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I thought that's the amount they kept for themselves
< 1391890901 810997 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O
< 1391890920 797992 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kind of doubt anyone who'd set this up feels btc are worth it :p
< 1391890926 89450 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can shorten this to use fewer than 29 parts
< 1391890957 660693 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other thing to improve C would be to make "extern static" to be allowed, but I don't think any version of any C standard is allowing it.
< 1391890991 454229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a point that this might be a money laundering scheme
< 1391890995 431982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not a sustainable one
< 1391891005 676459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a typical laundry would pay back less that 100% of what you put in...........
< 1391891041 213756 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"butbuob: Show HN: Litecoin Ponzi Scheme written in Rust"
< 1391891138 965018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think GCC does but I don't know if it has the semantics you want
< 1391891144 650371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think "extern static" should mean
< 1391891214 438949 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 BTC is like $700-800 now
< 1391891217 407081 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not $1200,...
< 1391891223 11879 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hit $1200 like /once/
< 1391891233 970791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GCC has static inline and extern inline
< 1391891246 125139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the traditional GCC meaning of extern inline is the opposite of the C99 meaning :(
< 1391891279 387452 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_________: are you faulting my awesome math
< 1391891343 968088 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone who was a huge jerk would point out that if .017 BTC = $12 then 1.7 BTC = $1200, and i rounded the wrong way. luckily we don't have any of those here.
< 1391891388 143398 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh i can't figure out why this is segfaulting
< 1391891404 15425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you get a backtrace from a debugger
< 1391891424 378975 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nahhhhhh just segmentation fault (core dumped)
< 1391891437 211164 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can see what call causes it but i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong, is all
< 1391891465 849512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the debugger might help you determine that
< 1391891482 388255 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like... gdb?
< 1391891650 619485 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What does GCC do with it?
< 1391891650 799101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1391891660 125136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gdb --args ./myprog whatever args
< 1391891666 506559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then 'run'
< 1391891677 889509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it crashes you'll be back at the gdb prompt and you can type 'bt' for a backtrace
< 1391891684 343146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should also compile with -g and with no optimizations
< 1391891701 116501 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary
< 1391891707 221912 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i g uess i gotta learn gdb sometime
< 1391891734 469549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what does "extern static" do in GCC if anything, and what are the GCC and C99 meanings of "extern inline"?
< 1391891784 408402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2006-11/msg00006.html
< 1391891802 256853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah. gdb is super fancy but knowing how to do the 5 most basic things is very useful
< 1391891839 626386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: valgrind is also very useful for debugging memory errors in C, particularly in the cases where you *don't* get a crash or the crash happens a while after the incorrect memory use
< 1391891858 886580 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, unsurprisingly, bt shows it's two levels deep in the opaque library
< 1391891862 181094 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bluh bluh
< 1391891896 365673 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i'll stare at the api some more
< 1391891989 983296 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: OK, and what for "extern static"?
< 1391892013 984740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I misremember and it's not allowed
< 1391892040 250410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah foo.c:1:1: error: multiple storage classes in declaration specifiers
< 1391892043 661144 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what do you want extern static to do
< 1391892047 319162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what would your "extern static" mean?
< 1391892112 969621 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want it to export it but mangle it so that it doesn't interfere with other files having a function of the same name, but otherwise treat it as static
< 1391892131 723329 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And if the definition is not given, try to use an external one)
< 1391892337 908904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if there's no definition it links to the non-mangled name, but if it is defined it exports with a mangled name?
< 1391892385 330660 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it uses the mangled name either way.
< 1391892387 871119 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm in the market for a new GPU. For gaming mostly. Any recommendations wrt. Nvidia vs. AMD at this point? It doesn't matter when booting to windows, and I expect I will have to use the closed source drivers in either case under Linux for full functionality, so, which one is least shitty on Linux currently?
< 1391892402 278944 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use AMD atm, and it works reasonably
< 1391892418 620201 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it provides less performance than under windows in for example minecraft
< 1391892459 466366 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: basically the situation is that Nvidia care about their Linux drivers, AMD don't; however, the official Nvidia Linux drivers are both closed-source and excessively corporate
< 1391892465 62607 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they feel like a Windows program
< 1391892467 566736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so the mangling scheme is documented and the user is expected to sometimes declare functions using their mangled name elsewhere?
< 1391892468 401808 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm
< 1391892475 762099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems awkward
< 1391892485 138178 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect AMD will be better for console ports in the future.
< 1391892500 747783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also open source drivers for the nvidia drivers, which are missing quite a lot of functionality but otherwise work fine
< 1391892502 147453 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, AMD is working for better open source support though, right?
< 1391892511 691912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nvidia have been known to help them out from time to time
< 1391892526 242387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: AMD's getting more open wrt source, but the drivers themselves are awful
< 1391892537 482414 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that the two biggest consoles are x86 machines with AMD APUs (which also means ports from consoles in the future are likely going to be more common in general)
< 1391892541 650416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I do like the idea of a declaration that means "either a static in this compilation unit, or extern if none exists"
< 1391892546 55245 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well they are pretty stable at least, they weren't a few years ago
< 1391892563 49487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe that's already what you get by declaring extern and defining static? is that allowed?
< 1391892564 212860 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_________, yep.
< 1391892583 380905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, it isn't
< 1391892593 536973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway that could be useful to have library functions which can be overridden on a per-compilation-unit basis
< 1391892603 157326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't see the point of exporting the overrides under mangled names
< 1391892605 864874 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or at all)
< 1391892615 973572 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an amd gpu and the proprietary drivers were kind of a pain to install, but now that i've done it i can play hl2 smoothly
< 1391892636 685453 :itsy!~digital_w@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net PART :#esoteric
< 1391892639 749809 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_________, why the excessive underscores btw?
< 1391892644 426734 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pain to install" includes "i can't use xorg 15"
< 1391892645 484149 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No you have to declare them using "extern static" elsewhere too, and then give the definition in a file. However you would need to know which file it belongs to if you want to mangle the name, so I have elsewhere wrote about a directive to do so.
< 1391892652 88546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: e had two and I complained
< 1391892666 906148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've probably just inspired em to add more
< 1391892675 43887 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the most that will fit
< 1391892679 211909 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1391892682 590568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, NVidia are probably the Apple of GPUs
< 1391892691 544885 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, how do you mean
< 1391892710 43561 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i looked at nvidia gpus but i looked at their cuda site and holy shit is it annoying
< 1391892710 662299 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/how/what/
< 1391892717 780185 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(good basis for purchases)
< 1391892723 138075 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stuff mostly works an is high-quality, but doesn't have many user-servicable parts and you're relying on the company to keep doing updates
< 1391892733 266217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it is a way to make something like namespaces except that there is no interference with other namespaces having the same name.
< 1391892735 480091 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, right, and AMD is what?
< 1391892744 724363 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the same?
< 1391892760 880615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: some weird generic brand name manufacturer you've never heard of but their stuff seems to work
< 1391892772 798360 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are loads of them in any electronics store
< 1391892777 691832 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh
< 1391892836 514777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :To set the record straight, while typedef indeed is ("for syntactic convenience only", C11 6.7.1p5) a storage-class specifier, and so is "static", "const" is not; it's a type qualifier instead.
< 1391892891 362923 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because you can put consts in the middle of an expression and they change meaning depending on where they are
< 1391892905 452414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, of a type
< 1391892925 386319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arguably it's also because they serve different functions.
< 1391892945 638537 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just realized something. records are circular
< 1391893006 703619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Speaking of photography, I tried to do http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RevLensMac.png today, but as I'm missing an adapter ring (the one I ordered was broken) I had to do it with a less then optimal pair of lenses, and the end results... leave something to be desired: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140208-pi2.jpg
< 1391893096 912998 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, interesting, but who was speaking of photography? ;P
< 1391893114 507433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I'm sure we were, at some point during the preceding year or so.
< 1391893119 950223 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right
< 1391893126 116206 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also what is the thing on the left?
< 1391893151 475527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's the surface of one of the ICs.
< 1391893191 566335 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1391893198 60464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140208-pi3.jpg is how close I can get with the regular lenses, and I think that closeup is from the four R15 resistors and that Samsung chip there.
< 1391893207 695972 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what is the benefit of doing this reverse lens thing? I never heard of it before
< 1391893231 884209 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Lots of magnification without having to get a proper "macro" lens that can focus real close.
< 1391893266 574432 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Also I would suggesting using a smaller shutter perhaps?
< 1391893272 478939 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The focus is *very* narrow
< 1391893301 356044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Stopping down the aperture kept increasing the amount of vignetting, sadly.
< 1391893338 97443 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you mean the black circle thing or normal vignetting?
< 1391893345 60070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The black circle.
< 1391893347 942930 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1391893353 131676 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a bummer
< 1391893381 249236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe it should work better with a large-aperture lens as the reversed one, but I couldn't use the one I have because of that missing adapter ring.
< 1391893389 594369 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1391893422 220903 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the whole contraption was something like at least half a metre long, and my tiny mini-tripod just couldn't hold it up. And it could focus only something like 1-3 cm away from the end of the reversed lens. So it wasn't exactly a practical thing.
< 1391893426 227054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun, though.
< 1391893445 582216 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1391893457 447775 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah a larger tripod might be a good idea
< 1391893551 382251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have a regular tripod, but I couldn't maneuver it close enough to the TV stand I had the RPi on, because of the legs. (And when I tried to "tilt" it by making one leg longer, it started to fall over.)
< 1391893560 913355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this e-mount macro lens is $300 :/
< 1391893577 877015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I'll experiment more when I get a non-broken ring, it should be in the mail.
< 1391893602 262934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably get an adapter and some cheaper macro lens though, but I'm such a lazy noob that I probably wouldn't use it right
< 1391893625 557347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mushrooms have such nice details to capture
< 1391893635 503883 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, can't you extend/retract the legs on your tripod? Or did that not help either?
< 1391893642 189367 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, this reddit thread is really confusing me: http://www.reddit.com/r/roguelikes/comments/1xa9rj/i_have_been_writing_a_pseudoroguelike_mmorpg_with/
< 1391893648 478356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have any gamepad for use with my computer; if I did then I might design some two-player Famicom game using it, and in fact I have a idea of such a thing too: It is something like a Pokemon battle game, but there is some differences for example there is only eight element types (all balanced), and you can attack only one at a time but can switch your primary/secondary as you attack.
< 1391893668 403975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did anyone think it was a good idea to write an MMO where you fight monsters by editing Clojure code using regexes?
< 1391893678 439501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to have found an audience, anyway
< 1391893688 992912 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The eight element types are: North, South, Alien, Magic, Air, Insect, Slime, Abnormal.
< 1391893701 766719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: An "extension tube" (that basically just moves the lens and therefore lowers the minimum focus distance) is often a pretty cheap option, I believe. (It doesn't get to as large magnifications as a macro lens, and you need to get closer, but at least it's just an empty tube and therefore often reasonably priced.)
< 1391893725 160965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
< 1391893764 615009 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And same type attack bonus not only gives bonus to damage but gives a bonus to priority as well.
< 1391893775 190264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Or so I've read, anyway. My father's got some M42 mount lenses and an extension tube set from the 1960s-1970s, I've been thinking of getting a $7 M42-to-EF adapter and borrowing those.
< 1391893811 5632 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there's some of that in the latest Pokémon game, in X/Y there's a Flying Pokémon that gets a priority boost on Flying moves
< 1391893814 336962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a really powerful ability
< 1391893849 285648 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is it overriding speed or adding to the speed, and how much?
< 1391893863 127535 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"At level 0, you will only be able to match and substitute up to 10 characters, and you won't yet have access to []+*|)( and other regular expression "sigils." You can see that even with the most basic monster, it will take conscious effort to figure out useful spells to cast."
< 1391893867 154734 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it adds 1 priority
< 1391893881 116309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the difference between Tackle and Quick Attack, or Quick Attack and Extremespeed
< 1391893912 744931 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My way is adding 2 speed rather than 1 priority, and applies to all types/attacks.
< 1391893954 880552 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Wait, really? Jeeze, that is quite powerful.
< 1391893957 948357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 speed as in speed points on the status screen (that's hardly anything)? or as in 2 stages (i.e. Agility)?
< 1391893971 282999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah, very powerful, I can see why it's limited to one Pokémon
< 1391893976 153790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in two points on the status screen
< 1391893987 374085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, this is before stages are applied.
< 1391894040 147995 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where the speed is 0 to 245, and up to ten can be added due to bonuses so it is 255 at maximum.
< 1391894051 34159 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cripes. Hidden ability Talonflame is crazy then.
< 1391894066 18342 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What does that one do?
< 1391894087 217262 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly what we've been talking about. Flying moves get a priority boost.
< 1391894087 516808 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : why did anyone think it was a good idea to write an MMO where you fight monsters by editing Clojure code using regexes? <-- that sounds amusing for 5 minutes
< 1391894097 492792 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: OK
< 1391894303 309298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: apparently they want to commercially release this, and quite a few people are saying "that sounds interesting" despite it not being on a programming-based subreddit
< 1391894311 297589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a monthly fee for playing
< 1391894331 796339 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, eeh, I'm not sure that would work out. As a free game jam thingy? Sure
< 1391894341 974354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: neither am I
< 1391894349 813539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a sense I /want/ to see it work out because it's so unusual
< 1391894360 157853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't expect it to
< 1391894387 934951 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, Well yes, but I wouldn't want to play it myself. It sounds way too much like work to me these days. I have been coding much less in my spare time recently, doing other stuff instead
< 1391894416 394088 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such a thing you described with using regex to fight, seem like not so good as it is written but perhaps made as a single-player puzzle game, may be interesting.
< 1391894434 957922 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb
< 1391894435 579284 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where, any level is fixed based on the puzzle and not based on your level)
< 1391894804 267225 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Oh, almost forgot to mention, I also did a moon comparison thing: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140206-mooncomp.jpg
< 1391894953 89660 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :segfaults are so fucking frustrating
< 1391894962 630562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: and yet they're pretty much the best case outcome
< 1391894963 564678 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :back
< 1391894982 846756 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, new/old as in?
< 1391894983 403837 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to scribbling all over ram?
< 1391895003 3696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, a segfault is a memory handling mistake which happened to be caught by the hardware / OS
< 1391895004 147086 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391895015 961727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though it could be the consequence of another mistake which was not)
< 1391895035 40284 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, unless of course it segfaults in a different location every time. In which case you might have a threading issue or some sort of heap corruption or...
< 1391895054 804332 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Old and new camera. Old picture was from 2009, and it's entirely coincidental that the moon phase is such a close match, I hadn't even looked at the old picture before taking the new one.
< 1391895080 571020 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, why the colour difference? Camera or atmospheric conditions?
< 1391895125 880023 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn it what did i do wrong
< 1391895186 286502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Possibly both. The old one was not terribly good when it came to white balance. (Especially the AWB, so I may have had it set to some suboptimal preset.)
< 1391895218 501071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it should be recorded in the Exif data.
< 1391895283 533264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"White Balance: Daylight". Well, it's... reflected daylight? 
< 1391895308 372506 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, my old camera (which is my current camera that is) has a button to set the white balance from a neutral color you put in front of it
< 1391895349 89746 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1x9gue/my_protest_at_mtgox_offices_5_to_7th_february/
< 1391895352 112967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I was told that up until a few weeks [at time of the interview] ago, there was hardly any development environment to test changes. Most changes were done straight on the production environment. Typing this made me throw up in my mouth."
< 1391895454 846671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Both "old" and "new" can do custom white balance, and I used to use it quite a lot with the old one, though (somewhat disappointingly) the workflow to do so is less practical in the new one. (Old one has a menu option to take a custom-WB shot; for new one you need to take a picture, and *then* go to a menu and select that picture as source for custom WB.)
< 1391895464 678354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder what a "Light Source: Fine Weather" Exif entry means.
< 1391895480 590085 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there are any weather sensors in the camera.
< 1391895536 606303 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be a redundant way to say "White Balance: Daylight".
< 1391895549 869250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if MtGox collapses and there's panic selling maybe I should buy some Bitcoins finally
< 1391895561 5735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're only 20% of the bitcoin-to-real-money market now: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/volumepie/
< 1391895632 632418 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O
< 1391895638 945741 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ouch. Mine just has a button that greys out everything except the center of the display, and then when you release it, it takes a photo and uses the area in the middle as the reference
< 1391895643 305986 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :works really well
< 1391895648 385969 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol they call real money "fiat"
< 1391895663 742842 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiat is a reasonable name for fiat money
< 1391895676 85750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoin is even more fiat than fiat, though
< 1391895676 939939 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a technical term...
< 1391895680 445444 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_________: you've grown a long tail since I last saw you
< 1391895693 715999 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: depends who's doing the fiat-ing, I suppose
< 1391895694 317770 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: depends on the definition, I think
< 1391895702 626829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but by at least one of the common definitions
< 1391895710 466188 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That's approximately how it worked in the old one, though you navigated a menu to get there. (Also you could select one out of two slots to save the custom balance as.)
< 1391895723 508047 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you make that definition broad enough, you could shove gold into the fiat designation too
< 1391895726 804323 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1391895729 274076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1391895730 796837 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which I love to do, honestly)
< 1391895795 11249 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: if you decide to buy and want to do it OTC with someone, let me know and I can probably help you find a counterparty (might end up being cheaper with less hassle than an exchange)
< 1391895795 520696 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin, also cars. *hides*
< 1391895798 993883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aside from industrial uses, it depends on whether you think the human aesthetic / cultural appreciation of gold is more "real" than the value of dollars
< 1391895804 13030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: haha okay
< 1391895833 178132 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even charge fees! >_>
< 1391895852 339457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can't charge much fee as an OTC matchmaker who doesn't assume counterparty risk ;P
< 1391895859 449778 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1391895873 890302 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, I can set you up with the most trustworthy people in the community! what's not to love!
< 1391895876 884521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1391895879 38361 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_<
< 1391895879 502423 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i see is fire and void
< 1391895884 977630 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm kidding, of course :P
< 1391895916 448087 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also been known to escrow for people to do that sort of stuff
< 1391895919 552917 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do OTC BTC-USD transactions typically happen through escrow?
< 1391895921 219345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1391895926 244322 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends
< 1391895938 177429 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you like getting scammed, go for an unauthenticated stranger
< 1391895944 340750 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lots of people do that)
< 1391895971 796630 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more savvy tend to just go with reputable people and the less reputable of the pair sends first
< 1391895976 802440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1391895977 702465 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even more savvy will go with escrow
< 1391896016 568264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be some sort of cryptographically sound way to exchange arbitrary cryptocoins with each other even if they're on different chains
< 1391896094 498334 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :USD isn't a cryptocurrency
< 1391896109 517392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know
< 1391896120 388243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :credit cards are, though
< 1391896125 546491 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a very good cryptocurrency, though
< 1391896162 209193 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i googled for an opencl irc channel and it's all bitcoin mining
< 1391896180 310561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_;
< 1391896203 768290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh?
< 1391896210 265214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would it work
< 1391896244 203361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea, but I guess I have a "this should be cryptographically possible" sense that's comparable to my "this should be TC" sense
< 1391896247 958189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. not 100% reliable
< 1391896259 324923 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :have y'all played flappy bird?
< 1391896275 891358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO WHAT IS THAT AND WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT IT
< 1391896300 644781 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ridiculously hard game
< 1391896300 824494 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/02/the-squalid-grace-of-flappy-bird/283526/
< 1391896303 776401 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1391896305 81630 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD-nzHy2DdU
< 1391896310 626328 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :not hard in an interesting way
< 1391896344 59265 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trick is to read this article or watch a video or whatever and think "ok then, fuck this" and go back to something practical like making your program segfault a hundred times
< 1391896404 950728 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or read an IRC message
< 1391896416 646060 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a prodigy
< 1391896614 423572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.metalair.org/decentralised-cryptocurrency-exchange/ is trying to do it but they won't share their design work so far
< 1391896726 386612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: re your original bitcoin link, the hilarious thing is the way that people keep on trying to confirm/deny the story via reference to hitherto unmentioned third party X, and third party X turns up to confirm that their involvement in it is genuine
< 1391896735 809853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the entire community are reading that reddit thread
< 1391896739 125441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh true
< 1391896739 305148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is actually pretty believable
< 1391896800 421544 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real useful post is gmaxwell's contribution
< 1391896802 862353 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that protest thing
< 1391896806 623082 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that might be useful too
< 1391896809 481578 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, which link was that?
< 1391896816 879338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was mostly amused by the horror story of interviewing there
< 1391896824 79843 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1x93tf/some_irc_chatter_about_what_is_going_on_at_mtgox/cf99yac
< 1391896835 648048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, not the one copumpkin linked
< 1391896851 426282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about 1 and a half screenfuls ago on my screen, kmc linked it
< 1391896853 784047 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one, http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1x9gue/my_protest_at_mtgox_offices_5_to_7th_february/
< 1391896857 786229 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but read mine too
< 1391896870 266573 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1391897200 892534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so one simple approach is that the two parties take turns exchanging small quantities of money until the whole transfer is consummated
< 1391897292 102854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will be pretty slow with existing cryptocurrencies
< 1391897435 803166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know someone developed a bitcoin mixer that doesn't require any of the participants to trust any of the others
< 1391897441 94532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that might require protocol adpatations
< 1391897443 103441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*adaptations
< 1391897593 682241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zerocoin was originally designed as that, yeah, and it does require protocol changes
< 1391897606 335454 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right
< 1391897619 435170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's going to be a separate currency because in the words of the designer, "If people will put money into Dogecoin, they’ll put it into anything"
< 1391897632 718318 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a new cryptocurrency with true anonymity
< 1391897634 892918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the designer is probably correct there
< 1391897657 563154 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also know about a Bitcoin mixer that ran for a while using RSA blind signing
< 1391897686 360165 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you still trust the central party not to take your money, but they can't reveal which coins were exchanged for which, even under torture / subpoena
< 1391897712 853247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, btw, for everyone who was wondering why imgur didn't work on my computer no matter which browser I was using, and continued to not work even when I accessed the internet from a hotel in France
< 1391897726 402965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I eventually discovered it was due to an entry I'd added in the hosts file that had gone out of date
< 1391897732 471769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and here's another design http://blog.ezyang.com/2012/07/secure-multiparty-bitcoin-anonymization/
< 1391897735 627403 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's somewhere to check next time
< 1391897772 457892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :must have been back when the DNS was being buggy
< 1391897798 273406 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you able to make some more Attribute Zone levels if I have made up the program?
< 1391898392 950443 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that ponzi.io is doing pretty well
< 1391898404 371215 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :back in the day we had bitcoinduit which worked the same way
< 1391898548 552048 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sends in 10000 coins
< 1391901525 817490 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :after much wailing and mashing of teeth i have written a gpgpu program
< 1391901541 367666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray
< 1391901570 235528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last time I did that was in 2007, back when you still had to pretend that your data represented red, green, blue values in a texture
< 1391901586 353592 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure this means i'm basically a bitcoin trillionaire already
< 1391901593 907551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym dogecoin
< 1391901630 213047 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it called "digging" or something with dogecoin
< 1391901995 664893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1391902691 153219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391902773 265078 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how WebCL is going..
< 1391902820 739443 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, so you can mine from firefox?
< 1391902859 680565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully the cryptocoin craze will lead to actual useful developments in GPGPU technology
< 1391902872 188366 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, no
< 1391902881 378345 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can play with the GPU from JS
< 1391902906 52113 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...for purposes other than mining *coins
< 1391902912 830592 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what
< 1391902928 570823 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :raytracing or something
< 1391902935 565421 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :games that run entirely on the GPU?
< 1391902943 486282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have massively parallel control of thousands of characters
< 1391902950 426814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be good for collision processing too
< 1391902950 665679 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :general purpose game processing unit
< 1391902959 929442 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hard part would be screen transitions
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< 1391905196 703814 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have idea about a CPU design that has one external pin to tell whether to use microcode ROM or microcode RAM, which contains VLIW instructions, and the cache is in the same microcode RAM.
< 1391905344 557935 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How well would it work?
< 1391905382 227158 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It does mean you can have self-modifying microcodes!!)
< 1391905434 477553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: instead of an internal pin, why not have a register that determines that?
< 1391905438 789706 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*external pin
< 1391905449 454417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way you could change it using software control
< 1391905459 578080 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it could be a register
< 1391905531 620754 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such register could also control supervisor/user microcode mode; however such thing could also be a output pin, so that the components can be wired for supervisor/user mode, too.
< 1391905596 857971 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, of course, need a external reset signal to reselect ROM mode and reset some of the other registers too.
< 1391905633 521331 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are any existing designs doing anything similar?
< 1391905699 344182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly, but I don't know of one
< 1391905890 414874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If internal condition flags are also part of the microcode program counter, and the VLIW includes each instruction has part of a address of next instruction, then you don't need branch instructions, especially if self-modifying codes are possible. You could also have multicore VLIW.
< 1391905999 864646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i have a hunch you could merge the header and the 523 padding by making more copies of the header instead...
< 1391906037 503278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, that would work for the after-padding, there's no actual reason to use a whole number of copies of the header
< 1391906050 485706 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's me assuming the language was simpler than it was, because I was in tarpit mode)
< 1391906058 305712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, /header/
< 1391906073 14087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you could make a bunch of copies of the header, and then use a larger repeat count on the alphabet
< 1391906092 722206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to fill the before-padding with header copies and after-padding with stray bits of alphabet
< 1391906108 867611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why a larger repeat count?
< 1391906114 744011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you could remove the after-padding altogether, actually, because its only purpose is for somewhere to put the unused bits of alphabet
< 1391906116 776887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no, I'm wrong
< 1391906128 235806 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't generate fractional repeats with resplicate
< 1391906131 536772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the after-padding needs to stay
< 1391906150 466638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am referring to the initial padding
< 1391906178 565530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1391906185 621730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this doesn't give a clear way to remove the final padding
< 1391906193 895014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm tired
< 1391906389 13169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so may not make much sense
< 1391906469 777616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's a little subtle anyway, because the number of 523's in the initial padding seems to be odd, but i _think_ removing the 3 integers that generate them will turn the necessary padding even so the header can be used
< 1391906500 676372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's interesting is if it's possible to prove resplicate TC even with no misaligned copies (i.e. any sequence of numbers that's copied with a copy count other than 0 must have existed in the original program, and must have all been copied into the program in one block)
< 1391906532 786799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you might be able to do it using two layers of escaping
< 1391906647 17439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait my idea has trouble, removing those will make the number of integers per rule potentially odd
< 1391906658 605242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a problem in this construction
< 1391906664 484923 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it always knows where the IP is anyway
< 1391906712 706954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a problem for my "replace 523's by header" construction, because that requires that the length of total initial padding always be even
< 1391906751 634439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-alphabet padding, that is
< 1391907520 757394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it seems hard to handle non-misaligned copies in a single pass through the queue
< 1391907538 771300 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, I think I'd do two passes
< 1391907564 470724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means every tag command becomes O(n) in the whole queue length
< 1391907612 147799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, the way I was going to do it avoids that issue, but leads to problems if you have an odd number of tag commands in the queue at any major iteration
< 1391907614 896486 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think games are a much bigger driver for GPUs and game technology than cryptocoins...
< 1391907628 177305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1391907638 493738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: games mostly don't care about GPGPU stuff, though, apart from stuff like PhysX
< 1391907648 247969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1391907652 817824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's true
< 1391907667 419583 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the line between GPGPU and just regular old graphics processing is pretty blurred nowadays
< 1391907714 249574 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you get each command to produced escaped output, then the entire queue unescapes at once into a new unescaped queue
< 1391907729 180697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem being that you then have to be able to skip over commands without knowing whether they're escaped or not
< 1391907748 929022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be possible to make escaped and unescaped commands the same length though
< 1391907752 606705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using padding
< 1391907787 602320 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: iunno, i mean i don't think Valve needs to care about OpenCL to not make half life 3
< 1391908431 201965 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shaders are a pretty common thing in games anymore.
< 1391908445 691196 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to download a SQLite database of chess games?
< 1391908452 211768 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a typo in there pikhq?
< 1391908464 504633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungots are a pretty common thing in games
< 1391908464 897873 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: not really. only looking at the new dilbert.com rejecting linux typing tutors out there for other languages too
< 1391908489 852503 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't see a typo.
< 1391908490 830359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of dilbert http://www.dilbert.com/2014-02-07/
< 1391908504 255815 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i just didn't expect "anymore" without a negative
< 1391908520 176357 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway doesn't GL handle shaders
< 1391908527 389738 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should look at glsl again. as if i have any reason to
< 1391908528 452214 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's perfectly mundane English.
< 1391908534 965081 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, just unexpected.
< 1391908537 593193 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh. *shrug*
< 1391908560 618200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey did you all see this paper on x86 shellcode which looks like valid English text? http://www.cs.jhu.edu/~sam/ccs243-mason.pdf
< 1391908577 293846 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when was it published? i read one in like, 2011 or some shit
< 1391908586 742250 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I don't consider pixel/vertex/geometry shaders to be GPGPU because they only really make sense for specific purposes in graphics rendering
< 1391908591 963797 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of thing goes into a shader anyway. i thought shade was fairly straightforward
< 1391908596 738807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009. probably this one then
< 1391908598 627258 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Fair enough.
< 1391908599 725836 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, insofar as any kind of optics is
< 1391908601 672881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as was seen when people tried to use them for non-graphics stuff
< 1391908612 246387 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so, not straightforward, bike"
< 1391908616 349809 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "shader" has somehow become the name for "arbitrary program which a GPU runs for each pixel/vertex"
< 1391908624 325259 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :really. odd.
< 1391908629 558597 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what kinds of programs are there?
< 1391908637 401724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: a shader (or one kind of shader, anyway) gets called for every pixel in a polygon and computes an arbitrary function for what the color should be at that pixel
< 1391908643 28760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably because traditionally what you're doing is loading a texture and applying lighting effects to it
< 1391908654 143539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which can quite sensibly be described as "shading"
< 1391908654 558753 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it knows the position in 3D space, the normal at that point, it can access various textures, can do matrix math, etc.
< 1391908658 323902 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a guy who works on turbulence, i really shouldn't be so blase about optics
< 1391908659 726846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really you can do pretty much anything
< 1391908666 490381 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean. what do people actually do with it.
< 1391908673 574889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the original use is to model all kinds of different surface textures
< 1391908681 433116 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make something look bumpy without having a bunch of triangles for every bump
< 1391908693 871046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vertex shaders are cheap compared to pixel shaders
< 1391908695 436870 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :think i've heard of that...
< 1391908701 93781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there are way more pixels onscreen than vertices
< 1391908706 244087 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In emulator-land it's coming to be pretty popular for applying effects to the rendered frame.
< 1391908716 986894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, they're also great for "full-screen" video effects
< 1391908725 275768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :colorspace conversion, blur, HDR rendering, whatever
< 1391908774 421990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: a key part of doing fancy things with shaders is that you can render scenes to a texture
< 1391908786 15780 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like mirrors?
< 1391908793 6292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one application yeah
< 1391908806 493492 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but more generally, it lets you capture the output of the gfx pipeline and use it later in another pipeline
< 1391908811 274628 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then you'd want to add effects if it's a dirty mirror or something
< 1391908813 480631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that was key to the first GPGPU stuff too
< 1391908834 283616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a GPGPU "particle simulator" where every (r,g,b) pixel in a texture  is actually an (x,y,z) coordinate of a particle
< 1391908839 321988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the "texture" would just look like noise
< 1391908848 114303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have a shader that updates these positions and writes it to another "texture"
< 1391908861 287029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and another shader that draws the particles to the screen by reading from this "texture"
< 1391908918 783574 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nasty
< 1391908920 368212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in web browsers you render groups of HTML elements to textures and then composite them together
< 1391908928 192298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this allows things like CSS transforms to happen smoothly
< 1391908939 494812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't re-render the element, you just alter its position, rotation, etc. in compositing
< 1391908952 143714 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391908978 188149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact the compositor also renders into textures; it renders the page into a set of 512x512 tiles or so
< 1391908985 618653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which enables fast scrolling
< 1391908994 580352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much video memory do GPUs normally have nowadays?
< 1391908998 612138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can keep some of the tiles off the edge of the screen around in memory
< 1391909009 990091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I learned programming, you had to be careful not to waste it, but I imagine that isn't really an issue now
< 1391909015 981673 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 1 to 8 gigs, depending on how cheap/not cheap it is.
< 1391909019 363502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on mobile browsers when you scroll off of what's rendered you see a grey or checkerboard area, which then fills in
< 1391909029 636507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, yeah, that's not really an issue
< 1391909037 816815 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much less for integrated GPUs though.
< 1391909051 118895 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might end up having a carved-off 256MB chunk instead there.
< 1391909073 202184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought these days integrated GPUs (integrated to CPU, not motherboard) would use all available RAM, by cooperating with the OS
< 1391909082 703659 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly no.
< 1391909085 874685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this also means CPU-GPU transfers can be really fast
< 1391909087 518065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw
< 1391909091 570944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's how the PS4 works anyway ;P
< 1391909095 926999 :nys!~nys@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391909104 330536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a single chunk of GDDR5 for CPU and GPU
< 1391909225 841390 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPU-GPU transfers are normally really slow (by memory standards), but I've heard the PS4 is an exception to that
< 1391909240 181125 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the PS4 doesn't have seperate memory.
< 1391909264 682725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that in SDL2, if you're planning to update a texture frequently, you have to warn the library in advance (although I'm not entirely sure what it changes in response to the warning)
< 1391909384 455707 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uff, what's the printf directive to get a ulong out
< 1391909398 85123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :%lu
< 1391909400 586213 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1391909402 321286 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx
< 1391909419 271123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, you can write it as "long unsigned" even outside printf
< 1391909423 780200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which helps to remember the directive
< 1391909443 653319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1391909452 131016 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf clearly can't use %ul because that would be ambiguous, so it went for the next-best option
< 1391909468 760928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just remember that 'u' is a base "conversion specifier" and all modifiers come before the specifier
< 1391909471 87791 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do "int unsigned"
< 1391909479 546948 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yep
< 1391909481 817576 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure yes.
< 1391909488 481979 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyawy so my GPU has... 1949302784 bytes global memory
< 1391909497 884362 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway*
< 1391909631 507678 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 32768 per unit. seems pretty beefy
< 1391909864 735904 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1391910534 725146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what does your program do Bike?
< 1391910705 833675 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the test one just elementwise squares a vector
< 1391910716 267426 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to do matrix multiplication but i kept thinking of half-baked optimizations >_>
< 1391910727 781460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are fancy algos for that aren't there
< 1391910744 465171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run uname -a
< 1391910745 290549 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux umlbox 3.13.0-umlbox #1 Wed Jan 29 12:56:45 UTC 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux
< 1391910761 743167 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. i have an arxiv paper on mediocre-but-useful sparse matrix formats i've yet to read v_v
< 1391911477 577292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cdecl declare x as pointer to array 5 of int
< 1391911478 219262 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int (*x)[5]
< 1391911483 333439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cdecl explain int (*x)[5]
< 1391911483 996783 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :declare x as pointer to array 5 of int
< 1391911530 353756 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cdecl explain int x[static 5]
< 1391911531 77749 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error
< 1391911533 182317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo
< 1391911563 463185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm HackEgo's repository browser is now not just out of date, but gone
< 1391911580 369999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :/
< 1391911593 939979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help
< 1391911594 120127 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
< 1391911596 922292 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: wait, can you declare an int[] like that, not as a parameter
< 1391911620 511621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1391911628 27098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo.c:1:5: error: static or type qualifiers in non-parameter array declarator
< 1391911663 281272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what does int x[volatile 5] mean?
< 1391911746 125939 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does cdecl do things besides explain?
< 1391911751 959989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cdecl help
< 1391911752 575891 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [] means optional; {} means 1 or more; <> means defined elsewhere \     commands are separated by ';' and newlines \   command: \     declare  as  \     cast  into  \     explain  \     set or set options \     help, ? \     quit or exit \   english: \     function [(  )] returning  
< 1391911772 56382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main ones are "define" and "explain"
< 1391911785 585294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also "cast"
< 1391911793 16563 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cdecl cast int into unsigned int
< 1391911793 323452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cdecl cast x into pointer to array 5 of char
< 1391911793 566225 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error
< 1391911793 950253 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(char (*)[5])x
< 1391911794 818463 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Volatile array of 5 elements.
< 1391911798 417370 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :go me
< 1391911818 471290 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i misinterpreted
< 1391911827 369748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: so it's the same as volatile int x[5] ?
< 1391911846 552854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does an array being volatile mean something different from all its elements being volatile?
< 1391911857 211309 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cdecl cast fucker[3] into pointer to function of void returning int
< 1391911857 824458 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error
< 1391911861 466004 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in an argument it'd be equivalent to "int * volatile x".
< 1391911864 166928 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cdecl cast fucker[3] into unsigned int
< 1391911864 884738 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error
< 1391911869 84938 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there no hope?
< 1391911871 800389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think it only takes a name for the first argument, not an expression
< 1391911872 659014 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cdecl cast fucker into unsigned int
< 1391911873 255625 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unsigned int)fucker
< 1391911876 602785 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sux
< 1391911882 617086 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cdecl cast fucker into pointer to function of void returning int
< 1391911883 311385 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error
< 1391911891 106246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they probably don't want to include an expression grammar as well
< 1391911894 621559 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's probably not a good way to talk about functions
< 1391911908 905754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cdecl cast fucker into pointer to function ( ) returning int
< 1391911909 557763 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(int (*)())fucker
< 1391911912 141329 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cdecl explain int x[volatile 5]
< 1391911913 49113 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error
< 1391911914 233811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cdecl cast fucker into pointer to function ( void ) returning int
< 1391911914 897779 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(int (*)(void ))fucker
< 1391911917 17667 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1391911932 735177 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :without the void it's uh, it doesn't say anything about what the function takes, right?
< 1391911941 878416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: also, is there any use of "pointer to array" types?
< 1391911955 9855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as int (*x)[5]
< 1391912066 312422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can think of reasons you might write &x when x is an array, but are there reasons to declare such variables / parameters?
< 1391912269 735124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : why did anyone think it was a good idea to write an MMO where you fight monsters by editing Clojure code using regexes? <-- and how come they're not in this channel?
< 1391912410 373643 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i guess if you want a 2d array that's dynamic in the first dimension?
< 1391912456 129657 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really sure of the uses for those types in general.
< 1391912464 821585 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda useful when passing around VLAs though.
< 1391912485 220444 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int (*x)[y][z] for instance?
< 1391912553 222161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun int x[5]; int (*y)[5]; y = &x; printf("%p %p %p\n", x, &x, y);
< 1391912554 384205 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x7fbfcf6c60 0x7fbfcf6c60 0x7fbfcf6c60
< 1391912597 94287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :VLAs considered harmful
< 1391912900 868436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cdecl explain int (*x)[2][3]
< 1391912901 603136 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :declare x as pointer to array 2 of array 3 of int
< 1391912950 57355 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net NICK :newsham
< 1391912981 14765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How well do you know about compiler optimizations?
< 1391913057 412344 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :medium well
< 1391913066 355897 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1391913086 946139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want your opinions on some kind of Z-machine intermediate codes (for version 5, 7, and 8) which is partially described here: http://sprunge.us/PNXL and there is also seven "special branch targets" which are (number in parentheses indicates number of arguments): RESTART(0), RESTORED(0), RETURN(1), QUIT(0), TAILCALL(8), THROW(2), and UNDEFINED(0).
< 1391913116 23245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1391913203 281841 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungotspeed you! black emperor
< 1391913203 491601 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i was waiting to hear if anyone is interested
< 1391913230 997004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What does it mean?
< 1391913239 4324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :very little
< 1391913388 662681 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun int x[5]; int (*y)[5]; y = &x; printf("%p %p %p %p\n", x, &x, y, &y);
< 1391913389 938332 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x7fbfd28c60 0x7fbfd28c60 0x7fbfd28c60 0x7fbfd28c58
< 1391913691 110094 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you understand my stuff about this compiler optimizations stuff? How could such optimization be improve?
< 1391913724 718327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :motherfungot=redeemer
< 1391913725 92396 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but did you try it, you'll just push it on. this individual processing of the url manually if they want to
< 1391913731 139717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sorry, I don't have the time to look into it now
< 1391913736 745601 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1391913763 837449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The file linked is actually just two C enumerations
< 1391913786 94594 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1391913794 436379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I can explain it is being done with basic blocks and register forwarding format
< 1391914014 374786 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a kind of single static assignment without phi nodes
< 1391914067 42273 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead, each basic block takes zero or more arguments and cannot use registers from other basic blocks at all
< 1391914169 105473 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if such a thing is ever done, but someone described as being combining single static assignment with continuation passing, and that it has some advantages and some disadvantages.
< 1391914295 676132 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see how this is the case.
< 1391914360 220305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What can you see about this kind of idea?
< 1391914473 85704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lift your skinny fungots like antennas to heaven
< 1391914473 403237 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are people here going to participate too? heh, do you? :)
< 1391914550 25918 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What antenna do you mean, the TV antenna, the radio antenna, or the antennas on your body? (I only have the second one)
< 1391914570 762837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but do you have a large barge with a radio antenna on it that you can charge up and discharge?
< 1391914585 105870 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I have no such things
< 1391914590 386522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should get one
< 1391914598 34743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no use for such a thing
< 1391914600 345918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use it for high frequency active auroral research
< 1391914614 688493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are far north enough
< 1391914765 734088 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How far is enough?
< 1391914822 302947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :56° apparently: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sura_Ionospheric_Heating_Facility
< 1391914937 943111 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really understand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_radiated_power
< 1391915002 859477 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem!
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< 1391915092 56859 :CADD_!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Client Quit
< 1391916560 855354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recorded my coordinates in Astrolog configuration file, so that is how I refer to and now I know, I am not quite far enough.
< 1391916592 410162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see
< 1391916597 735068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are your coördinates?
< 1391916625 320999 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to say, but presumably you could figure out approximately by yourself, by using my IP address
< 1391916741 183741 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time i checked my IP address it geolocated to the wrong state.
< 1391916802 980412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember a system of coördinates which used short alphanumeric strings, which could be as long as the desired precision requires
< 1391916810 196132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't remember what it's called
< 1391916824 407911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think http://www.mapcode.com/ is similar but the thing I remember didn't require a country prefix
< 1391916868 83490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i see there are "international mapcodes" too
< 1391916895 863332 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is at California 9QF.7C
< 1391916927 583359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does bash have command resembling the F8 command in Windows (which is, autocompletion based on command history)? If so, what is it?
< 1391916980 74266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :control-r
< 1391916993 685939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of
< 1391917048 326148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :creepercoin shoutingcoin wrongfulcoin waivercoin constipatingcoin aciditycoin
< 1391917090 761478 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I tried it now I can see what it does.
< 1391917219 934855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it do what you wanted?
< 1391917240 638245 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1391917310 712696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of, like you said.
< 1391917317 766653 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is at Missouri RC.LNJ or so.
< 1391917326 306842 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION also likes that those are relatively short.
< 1391917639 170870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cdecl declare fungot as pointer to struct fungot
< 1391917639 958799 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct fungot *fungot
< 1391917661 531008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: why no fungot
< 1391917739 594487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fungot won't respond to the same nick more than n times in a row, iirc
< 1391918420 113846 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, listen to fungotting kmc.
< 1391918420 565885 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: must convince cow-orkers that i need to rewrite the section on folding enumerators in srfi 44, on the blocking variant. roll over laugh floor.
< 1391918457 34295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cdecl declare fungot as pointer to struct fungot
< 1391918457 253477 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so fiz's free? oh. and is not mentally stimulating!
< 1391918457 689338 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct fungot *fungot
< 1391918466 761168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fungot knows not to listen to HackEgo
< 1391918466 988482 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: any chance one can have a box full of tnt to throw around
< 1391918476 15640 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i had more access to academic papers
< 1391918485 750012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i had access to a box full of tnt to throw around
< 1391918506 169288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  kmc: any chance one can have a box full of tnt to throw around
< 1391918506 457135 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: please elaborate. clog's back. :_) ( eval x))
< 1391918508 252424 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1168)  kmc: any chance one can have a box full of tnt to throw around
< 1391918567 340378 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask ais523 do you know a place where I can find the ruleset for the current 'simplest' universal tag system for free?
< 1391918567 559048 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1391918574 659133 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just made some awesome chicken tenders
< 1391918578 401864 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :om nom nom
< 1391918745 119413 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION specifies a copumpkin-complete penrose tiling
< 1391919112 819357 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should attempt to make SRFI-72-like hygiene in Racket
< 1391919164 37455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :employees must wash hands before returning to evaluator
< 1391919197 361459 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Misread that as elevator
< 1391919336 808899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a good idea
< 1391919472 818648 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tswett regarding names that have their own names, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haddocks'_Eyes#Naming
< 1391919473 224930 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1391919641 496067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is gcc using %rip-relative addressing even in a static binary?
< 1391919656 313042 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it results in shorter instructions
< 1391920199 751210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to be the case here (by a grand total of one byte)
< 1391920570 162927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the ModRM byte for an absolute address is followed by a SIB byte but the ModRM byte for a %rip relative address is not
< 1391920578 246950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goooooooooooooooood times
< 1391920697 593629 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Return to Ravnica has a pretty island
< 1391920698 63813 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?type=card&multiverseid=289316
< 1391921076 191113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 48c7042500004000ffffffff | xxd -r -p | udcli -64
< 1391921076 879984 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000000000000 48c7042500004000 mov qword [0x400000], 0xffffffffffffffff \                 -ffffffff
< 1391921083 482267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 48c70500004000ffffffff | xxd -r -p | udcli -64
< 1391921084 250432 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000000000000 48c70500004000ff mov qword [rip+0x400000], 0xffffffffffffffff \                 -ffffff
< 1391921185 422290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run <<<48c70500004000ffffffff xxd -r -p | udcli -64
< 1391921186 98181 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000000000000 48c70500004000ff mov qword [rip+0x400000], 0xffffffffffffffff \                 -ffffff
< 1391921830 626392 :nys!~nys@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: sleep
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< 1391924915 344561 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg
< 1391925306 921093 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL the mascot for GDB is an archerfish, known for their ability to shoot down bugs by spitting water
< 1391925309 905605 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/mascot/
< 1391925349 750810 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :archerfish are cool as hell. you know they exploit fluid dynamics to give the spit enough momentum
< 1391925353 777049 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how?
< 1391925402 682206 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/11/archerfish-physics/
< 1391925412 313735 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure that links the paper
< 1391925463 206221 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2013/11/archerfish-spitting-2.gif pew pew
< 1391925563 156476 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, there it is http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0047867
< 1391925658 299956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1391925695 887204 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kind of "oh damn that's pretty clever i didn't even know that was possible" thing kinda works for gdb too, eh
< 1391925743 135299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1391925887 385115 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving...
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< 1391926635 521172 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does the linux kernel have garbage collection on some resources? i thought it did but i'm blanking
< 1391926951 481797 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unix sockets
< 1391927014 708148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you can send a socket through a socket and it might sit in a kernel buffer forever
< 1391927078 496502 :loogie!loogie@nat/unlab/x-omkxfdviidotjwxl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1391927081 732267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/v3.12/net/unix/garbage.c
< 1391927108 132231 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably there are lots of others http://livegrep.com/search/linux?q=garbage+collect
< 1391927173 750001 :loogie!loogie@nat/unlab/x-omkxfdviidotjwxl PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
< 1391927180 308034 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1391927269 976586 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, look at all these
< 1391927330 22378 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the "mov is Turing-complete" paper address the issue that x86 isn't actually turing complete due to finite memory?
< 1391927341 542293 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem to
< 1391927350 907403 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :generalized 86
< 1391927489 591912 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, they're mostly filesystems
< 1391927603 963822 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the cache is disabled you could make a memory-mapped port to allow access to unbounded memory?
< 1391927728 326428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but that's not very meaningful
< 1391927739 201736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a finite state machine is also turing-complete if you give it a port to access unbounded memory
< 1391927794 768747 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But do finite state machines have ports?
< 1391927814 965771 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not exactly but you see what i'm getting at?
< 1391927816 274964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A CPU doesn't even have external memory if none is added to it!
< 1391927834 739925 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes I can see what you are saying nevertheless.
< 1391927838 765273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray
< 1391927842 112117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you see what i'm saying?
< 1391927842 675667 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that is as direct as c programs " program"? the real one that i reported seems to be built over the regular scheme mode with slime48, or you can
< 1391927911 738389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you don't talk to fungot do you?
< 1391927948 497094 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't generally need to do so.
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< 1391930988 697753 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Fan-made patches fix a notorious bug which results in the game always resetting to the easiest difficulty level [...].  This glitch was not noticed by MicroProse and was not fixed in the official patches, resulting in the very high difficulty of the sequel due to many complaints from veteran players who believed that the original game was still too easy even on seemingly higher levels.”
< 1391931011 855659 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-COM:_Terror_from_the_Deep#Reception )
< 1391931532 261159 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe someone want a very high difficulty though.
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< 1391935918 780988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice fish drawings in that Wired article.
< 1391936264 878343 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1391936591 948269 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What episode of ST:TNG should I watch?
< 1391936627 301144 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^"Darkcoin uses an algorithm called X11. Hence name because it uses 11 different hashing algorithms to solve a block. The algorithms are Blake, BMW, Groestl, JH, Keccak, Skein, Luffa, Cubehash, Shavite, SIMD, and Echo."
< 1391936644 148183 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Genesis
< 1391936678 471507 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: 11 times as secure
< 1391936706 716821 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the first fully anonymous cryptocurrency
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< 1391940270 490664 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"class1.mid"
< 1391940277 361895 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally a comprehensible name
< 1391940297 11067 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :class2.mid... now I'm confused, it doesn't sound like classical music
< 1391940312 702478 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the instruments don't sound classical, the melody kind of does
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< 1391944801 77837 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may be forced to try a Clozure CL implementation of Braintrust
< 1391944958 628707 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SBCL won
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< 1391944961 936863 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SBCL won't cut it
< 1391945110 628656 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x_x
< 1391945197 969330 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know, ccl:save-application doesn't die, whereas sb-ext:save-application-and-die does die
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< 1391947679 947871 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've put on simple wiki articles about the three functions defined by Smullyan.
< 1391947726 14484 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel free to categorize them if you're good in categorizing obfu-languages. Also, prove stuff about them. Eg. I'd like to know whether it's algorithmically decidable whether a number is immortal in McCulloch's second machine.
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< 1391948114 902270 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please enjoy the movement in relaxedly bus."
< 1391948135 217745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Trying to Google Translate here.)
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< 1391948403 875788 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The women-only space-women-only vehicle, can I ride children (boy)?"
< 1391949258 822379 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :A pity. I thought that Data.Sequence would be a good fit for the McCulloch thing, but it lacks a constant time reversal operation ...
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< 1391951824 226613 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I've been trying to actually write programs in Agda
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< 1391952819 191157 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yubisaylozada: please don't /msg random people like that
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< 1391958135 320763 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that should be no problem, you can define a better tree structure to implement this
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< 1391960294 3997 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the esolang wiki talk about non-deterministic but turing-complete languages like sokoban or super mario?
< 1391960415 321885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: those aren't non-deterministic, the sense in which they're TC involves generalizing them to an infinite repeating pattern and treating it as a constraint-solving exercise
< 1391960420 47202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, the interp tries to find a solution
< 1391960424 881873 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no nondeterminism there
< 1391960487 973974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't know where to find a simple universal tag system; it might be possible to find Minsky's turing machine → tag system compiler, though, and I think there's a universal (2,19) turing machine floating around somewhere
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< 1391960520 27695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a (2,5) with a repeating initial condition (found by Stephen Wolfram, but his proof it's TC is wrong), and a (2,3) with a really complex initial condition (I think we all know about that one)
< 1391960547 140368 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok, maybe not turing-complete
< 1391960570 373268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does have a category for nondeterministic languages
< 1391960611 267358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the useful distinctions for those are "can halt, even with probability 0" versus "never halts", and "halts with probability 1" versus "never halts"
< 1391960616 891846 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they are non-deterministic because the player has a choice of where to move
< 1391960631 986783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no, not when viewed as /languages/
< 1391960638 12534 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, usually)
< 1391960649 155579 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the language point of view, the player is the interp, the level is the program
< 1391960654 991231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the interp's job is to act optimally
< 1391960656 821178 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1391960672 369110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps by trying all possibilities in parallel
< 1391960695 959945 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: in my view, the level is the program, the video game console and the rom other than the level is the interpreter, and the player is the nondeterminism.
< 1391960696 177165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's nondeterministic in that sense
< 1391960715 37649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that's just taking input
< 1391960746 64292 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: right, these two views are why NP is defined in two ways:
< 1391960762 384132 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say it's defined by a nondeterministic turing machine, you're sayuing it's defined by a turing machien that takes hints
< 1391960774 950841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are loads of definitions of NP
< 1391960779 651962 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1391960795 336214 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, do you think it would make sense if I created some entries with links for these?
< 1391960799 588455 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the esolang wiki
< 1391960818 904333 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :links and short descriptions
< 1391960819 807462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one I like involves a trusted P-time machine, and a potentially malicious TC oracle
< 1391960847 920959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the combination is guaranteed to say "false" if the statement is actually false (no matter what the oracle does), and "true" if the statement is true /and/ the oracle is trustworthy
< 1391960865 948205 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that reminds me of something I want to ask on the other channel
< 1391960877 712257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the other channel"?
< 1391960933 936759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that if you're talking about TCness/PSPACE-completeness/whatever of computer games, the best option would just be one page listing all of them and linking to the existing results
< 1391960937 906777 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Wikipedia already has one of those
< 1391961276 830457 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: when you compiled that collatz system to resplicate, how long was it and what was the largest value?
< 1391961306 211384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's not very long at all
< 1391961357 632301 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :84 numbers per element in the initial queue, the largest number used is 678
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< 1391963621 743836 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you proved Resplicate turing-complete? nice
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< 1391976027 164137 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungots fall on fungot falls
< 1391976057 417911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good afternoon, fungot
< 1391976057 740005 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why the switch, i got it all. what i don't understand what you were explaining it, but i
< 1391976201 222314 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels the same about fungot, sometimes.
< 1391976201 442229 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i just want to know enough about it.
< 1391976222 47192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dead fungot blues
< 1391976222 227116 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: esobot disappeared, i mean. eh.
< 1391976484 526872 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :good canadian fungot evening
< 1391976484 706529 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yeah i guess it supports everything but the lowest level
< 1391976506 275626 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, canadians aren't the lowest of them all.. only nearly so
< 1391976599 897902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot♯
< 1391976600 275571 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: concrete examples? :p i like pianos. and the premise may very well be an explicitly typed program. the second argument
< 1391976750 998162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The back of the EP contains a diagram with instructions in Italian on how to make a molotov cocktail."
< 1391977015 779413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :fungots fall on fungot falls | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/
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< 1391977463 939924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What are you talking about there? 
< 1391977464 440438 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sneakers, isn't it? from lear to fnord or re-compile foo and bar
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< 1391978272 463673 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: from lear to leviathan?
< 1391978272 796077 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: gama chunks don't alter the rgb of each color and publish those as well.
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< 1391978395 109118 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Well, that's good. Imagine what would happen if they did.
< 1391978395 568798 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i think i've got this shell running irssi and it notifies me about new messages when i come to it. do it in
< 1391978610 59807 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know fungot used irssi for IRCing
< 1391978610 239562 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i don't really
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< 1391978615 697236 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.h
< 1391978623 908412 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\.h/h./
< 1391978779 247071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess irssi's just for message notification. Sounds like you have an overly complicated setup there, fungot.
< 1391978779 481078 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: would you let me have a look at
< 1391978824 159963 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I think it's better to let fizzie take care of setting up your environment
< 1391978824 458003 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: in my quantifier language im going to bed. i am not a sophisticated irc user ( anymore).
< 1391978841 366874 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so self-deprecating
< 1391979766 473801 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so that's what the F# stands for.
< 1391979788 127088 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot alpaca infinity
< 1391979788 425653 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: go the hell to write generators with call/ ec is probably sufficient for writing one of those
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< 1391984568 940902 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is addition on floats associative?
< 1391984623 894275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no
< 1391984625 251445 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1391984642 144297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 + -1 + 1e-40
< 1391984643 721449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance
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< 1391984691 810623 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks
< 1391984725 203070 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have some other rules, like ((u+v)-u)+((u+v)-((u+v)-u)) = u+v, which i'm sure is totally helpful
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< 1391985169 176014 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb when is your esolang thing again
< 1391985171 171517 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Addition on floats is commutative though
< 1391985184 864896 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, the 20th
< 1391985188 789052 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:30
< 1391985308 25217 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw if anyone else can get to York on the 20th for 19:30, I'm gonna try to design an esolang live and you can laugh at my failure
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< 1391985955 125578 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, are you actually coming to this
< 1391986003 246251 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :still deliberating
< 1391986060 363741 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :a train from here to york is nearly 3 hours, unfortunately
< 1391986066 338753 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1391986130 329942 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :livestream it or something!
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< 1391986369 907041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: you need to get your own hoovercraft for these events
< 1391986419 666766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it works the opposite of a hovercraft, naturally)
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< 1391987413 164766 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, with our current setup, livestreaming would be a tad difficult
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< 1391988320 241633 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what, it suctions itself to the ground?
< 1391988377 446236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: no, to the air
< 1391988391 127652 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1391988651 212813 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't there one of them in Mario Kart DS?
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< 1391989686 50287 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: after a little testing, i have grave doubts about your 3 1 6 3 2 1 4 n conjecture for the numbers n=5,7,8,9 and 10.  none of them seem to halt and 7,8 give me segmentation faults.  (the rest all work, though.)
< 1391989995 989002 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@82.221.102.36 QUIT :Quit: Tritonio
< 1391990344 514001 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some computer games are easily on their hardest difficulty level, including "Hocus Pocus"; I know there are some cheat code, is there a cheat code to turn off all bonus items, or to impose a time limit, or ammunition limit?
< 1391990386 184089 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The only cheat code I know is "FEELGOOD" to set back your health to 100%, but isn't good enough. Also, I cannot change the key config to letter keys!)
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< 1391990993 789257 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: seg faults?????
< 1391991139 44613 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: when you say "none seem to halt" you mean they continue to have zeros in them forever?
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< 1391992456 634694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well i ran them with | grep -P '((8 )*8)' | head -1  appended
< 1391992537 506610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(adjust 8 for actual digit)
< 1391992586 485238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i didn't actually look at the output for all of them
< 1391992723 714357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: of course i didn't run them very long, so if you actually have run any of them to the point they confirmed the conjecture...
< 1391992765 498776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd sort of guess those that segfaulted did so because they grew enormous length
< 1391993057 872933 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: one of these days i'll implement an automatically RLEing list...
< 1391993228 585686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any emulator I have tried does not support any function of $B003 register other than the register labeled "M" here:  http://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/VRC6#PPU_Banking_Style_.28.24B003.29
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< 1391993608 225428 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I still want to buy the Sonivox soundfont
< 1391993631 977356 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although not convinced it's so great compared to Titanic
< 1391993662 599458 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrugs*
< 1391993746 779194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: hm oh well actually 10 _technically_ fulfils the conjecture at one step, it's just that it's so short it needs to pop zeros for the next one.
< 1391993807 403465 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is this sound called newd.wav?
< 1391993815 654576 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't sound very newd
< 1391993819 570349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait that means there's something wrong with my regexp...
< 1391993838 479492 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds more... apocalyptic
< 1391993971 68008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, the regex's fine, it's the head -1 that somehow doesn't print the first line when nothing more is coming
< 1391994172 185428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: hm looking at the error messages, it might be grep which is doing the segfaulting.
< 1391994217 318315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because python gives a broken pipe error message
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< 1391996504 349156 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you segfault grep?
< 1391996762 569828 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :find the "exec other command" command and use it to exec something that segfaults, duh
< 1391996820 986789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: hm i was using -P, the segfault disappeared when i rewrote the regexp in usual grep style
< 1391996959 913811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly there still were no matching lines to see
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< 1391997350 575956 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a cycle accurate C program to emulate a 6502 CPU?
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< 1392005664 818371 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_________: you appear to be leaking underscores
< 1392005679 49819 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_________: and basically my "help" is "why doesn't haskell have dependent types grrr"
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< 1392006709 691577 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1392009216 177457 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/1328/
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< 1392010006 422261 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" b_jonas: those aren't non-deterministic, the sense in which they're TC involves generalizing them to an infinite repeating pattern and treating it as a constraint-solving exercise" <<< isn't nondeterminism exactly constraint-solving?
< 1392010015 893425 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1392010029 756923 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in the np sense
< 1392010061 970215 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you meant in the thue sense
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< 1392010480 902352 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre
< 1392011004 474281 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392011052 6010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has just read http://www.vanemden.com/books/neals/jipi.html
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< 1392014662 875388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dis86 6a3b589948bb2f62696e2f2f73685253545f5257545e0f05
< 1392014663 583269 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :push 0x3b \ pop rax \ cdq \ mov rbx, 0x68732f2f6e69622f \ push rdx \ push rbx \ push rsp \ pop rdi \ push rdx \ push rdi \ push rsp \ pop rsi \ syscall
< 1392014667 98740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run dis86 31c031d2b00b52686e2f7368682f2f626989e3525389e1cd80 -32
< 1392014667 866159 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xor eax, eax \ xor edx, edx \ mov al, 0xb \ push edx \ push 0x68732f6e \ push 0x69622f2f \ mov ebx, esp \ push edx \ push ebx \ mov ecx, esp \ int 0x80
< 1392014692 846853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unhex 68732f2f6e69622f
< 1392014693 522857 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hs//nib/
< 1392014737 345731 :Guest74321!~c@unaffiliated/tux/x-9266496 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392014952 36845 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dis86 deadbeef
< 1392014952 805587 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid
< 1392014955 196818 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1392015600 518940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dis86 6a3b589948bb2f62696e2f2f73685253545f5257545e0f05
< 1392015601 187784 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :push 0x3b; pop rax; cdq; mov rbx, 0x68732f2f6e69622f; push rdx; push rbx; push rsp; pop rdi; push rdx; push rdi; push rsp; pop rsi; syscall;
< 1392015617 283359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`as86 push 0x3b; pop rax; cdq; mov rbx, 0x68732f2f6e69622f; push rdx; push rbx; push rsp; pop rdi; push rdx; push rdi; push rsp; pop rsi; syscall;
< 1392015618 176212 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6a3b589948bb2f62696e2f2f73685253545f5257545e0f05
< 1392015674 38753 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Refrigerators only cost a few hundred dollars?
< 1392015685 627503 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking it would be more like thousands, for some reason
< 1392015733 949147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`as86 1: xor eax, eax; mov al, 0x39; syscall; jmp 1b
< 1392015734 692163 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :31c0b0390f05ebf8
< 1392015798 168833 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a /good/ refrigerator costs thousands.
< 1392015807 225398 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the walk-in ones you use in your bomb shelters.
< 1392015808 902461 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously.
< 1392015809 82312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :«xor eax, eax» has the same effect as «xor rax, rax», isn't it? and one byte shorter
< 1392015822 683228 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you can get small ones for somewhat under $100, even
< 1392015824 314903 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does xor eax eax affect the high bits?
< 1392015849 869728 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@82.221.102.36 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392015861 768788 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, instead of living with no working fridge, maybe I should just buy one myself already.... although, I also have no way to transport cold-needing foods home
< 1392015877 746893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392015885 117637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: writing to the low 32 bits of a register clears the upper 32 bits, for reasons
< 1392015888 851302 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392015892 546096 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right silly me
< 1392015933 461065 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you can keep foods unrefrigerated for a few minutes as you walk home without them exploding.
< 1392015946 735205 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392015963 193334 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an annoyingly long walk from Stop&Shop, and CVS doesn't have all that much food
< 1392015990 194213 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_conditions_for_temperature_and_pressure#Current_use good thing programmers aren't the only ones who suck at standards
< 1392016016 458064 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could keep Red Bull cold, I guess
< 1392016023 813200 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOr the rare occasions I want to have Red Bull at home
< 1392016030 245213 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Snowstorm)
< 1392016045 585960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: do you have a landlord who should fix the fridge?
< 1392016073 4836 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a co-op, I think we're supposed to maintain it. Even if not, we don't really want our landlord walking in here
< 1392016106 495425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get food delivered maybe
< 1392016117 820318 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know this is a thing in NYC; I don't know how far out on Long Island you can do it
< 1392016127 955348 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can walk to CVS to buy some foods
< 1392016136 899909 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instant pasta, some noodles, etc.
< 1392016144 699841 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or on good days can have pizza dinners
< 1392016149 251186 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Subway
< 1392016164 771659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In my experience, boxes are usually empty, sometimes with a little cheese stuck to the top, and one time pepperoni, what a day that was!"
< 1392016185 660710 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, not too cold to walk to pizza place
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< 1392017527 80838 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why does Firefox take 30 seconds to shut down? Because it's anal about cleaning up stuff that the OS could discard in milliseconds, and because current programming languages do not distinguish between optional resource deallocations and mandatory finalization such as flushing buffers"
< 1392017529 444035 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that accurate?
< 1392017558 406285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seriously doubt it
< 1392017582 103390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever observed firefox to take 30 seconds to shut down?
< 1392017598 134181 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't used Firefox in years... well, except for at work
< 1392017614 266886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started using it again when i took a job at mozilla
< 1392017624 296627 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is from 2012
< 1392017624 798967 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9033931/memory-leak-c
< 1392017624 978806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't really observe a performance difference from chromium anymore
< 1392017662 41427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it would be easy enough to hack the allocator to make free() a no-op during shutdown
< 1392017677 243151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if this made a big difference they would already be doing it
< 1392017695 852968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most things on stackoverflow are wrong
< 1392017729 87438 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's depressing
< 1392017743 921155 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, this is possibly the first time I've seen someone criticize Firefox for /not/ leaking memory
< 1392017749 392631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1392017795 774817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you can only make free() a no-op if the shutdown is un-cancellable
< 1392017857 433478 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is Windows Vista so pretty?
< 1392017869 192577 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a lot of designers spent a lot of time making it so
< 1392017892 640063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you think it's called that
< 1392017901 642760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buena vista
< 1392017914 116127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: basically because Microsoft decided to move to a compositing window managers for performance reasons, and it's hard for window managers to resist screwing around with all the fun things you can do with compositors
< 1392017958 428903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jerkcity.com/_jerkcity1024.html -- I'm a bit disappointed that the ANSI C citation here doesn't seem to be relevant
< 1392017967 995617 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even talking about that (although sad it seems to have been removed from 8?). Just the... wallpapers and taskbar theme
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< 1392018006 207383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure 8 still does compositing, they just changed the theming
< 1392018119 472462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really pissed that the Wikipedia deletionists got to the Jerkcity article
< 1392018150 805680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even had extensive citations http://www.jerkcity.com/wikipediasucks/Jerkcity.html
< 1392018350 123800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: this is all an 
< 1392018350 385172 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: since scheme has no builtin fnord under which defenition are characters, strings, ports)
< 1392018384 260198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The extensive citations all seem to be primary sources, though.
< 1392018417 292309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do not base an entire article on primary sources, and be cautious about basing large passages on them." (WP:PS)
< 1392018545 346289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :markov chain which combines king james bible with wikipedia policy documents
< 1392018579 22851 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You heard the kmc; get to it.
< 1392018579 521495 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if only people spoke " choose your own adventure". otoh, he's been using lisp since 1988. so i need something to tell gnomon. if only inequalities are supported in gauche's native encoding?)
< 1392018755 64354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1392018755 282187 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
< 1392018759 667113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style speeches
< 1392018759 846797 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: speeches (misc. speeches from Project Gutenberg)
< 1392018764 118625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortune favors the fungot
< 1392018764 870665 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: " fnord fnord." on lincoln's nomination to the united states in a space of little more than three years elapsed before a change of ministry. his favourite disciple, george canning, young, military fnord, and the nation as buyer, to sell out the old whig party, i repeat, i am not safe from them.
< 1392018781 127090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how does your speech recognition do on this fungot style
< 1392018781 485396 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: such disobedience on the part of the scheme. in the monastic institutions, in my childish days i remember to have heard a great deal of writing on the palm of eloquence doubtful. addington made a pitiable appearance between the court and juries should subsist any longer? on what principle is it that speaks thus? that of the augustan age: " fnord fnord fnord
< 1392018824 904717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's challenging, because we generally expect a single utterance to come from a single speech, and not a jumble of several.
< 1392018847 949298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungots fall on fungot falls
< 1392018848 628558 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: gentlemen, i know mr. rockefeller, two weeks ago, and wrought out to a governor the general line of his arguments. but that was no place to talk about it as it is, i got off they started to raise a revenue in america. for even then, discussion was fnord but the subject is on my mind that he entertained no principle either to influence his heart, and still, therefore, decide on their respective claims to our confidence so f
< 1392018877 990352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fungot
< 1392018878 169862 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fungot (What I've said myself)
< 1392018883 3725 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember there was a flash game that I was surprised had a Wikipedia article about it... found out some things about it that I couldn't find anywhere else
< 1392018891 70207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"on what principle is it that speaks thus? that of the augustan age: 'fnord fnord fnord'"
< 1392018892 548827 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't even remember what it was called now :(
< 1392018892 728417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen things you can't un-see
< 1392018895 917888 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good principle.
< 1392018900 475643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungots of all kinds
< 1392018900 688731 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i use slatex tex2page, and then to beslubber our garments with it, it had some obvious deficiences ( such as `,3 sub by 47, 48, 49, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 100, 121, 144, 169, 196, 225, 256, 512 ...too much output!
< 1392018918 907578 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the one where you hit some guy and he keeps bouncing on the ground and colliding with girls
< 1392018927 7967 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which... actually sounds pretty weird
< 1392018933 598241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a dating sim
< 1392018943 401929 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't adult, but I think the characters came from an adult story of some sort
< 1392018946 863987 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a dating sim
< 1392019008 118562 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nanaca Crash
< 1392019008 388019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I think I know the game you mean, one of my friends back at secondary school (like 10 years ago now) was addicted to it (although I've never played it)
< 1392019010 552149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1392019017 498725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how to spell it because I've only heard it spoken
< 1392019032 483786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I just located Nanaca Crash by googling for "flash game where you hit some guy and he keeps bouncing on the ground and colliding with girls" -- the first hit was relevant.
< 1392019037 699478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i'm surrounded by them
< 1392019037 918105 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: something like scheme48 ( upon the general position is a part of these amendments, i can only thank the president-in-office, you did hear me say that we have had in getting information with regard to monetary policy, a factor is
< 1392019045 283382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Google is pretty impressive
< 1392019065 929470 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I do remember that game too.)
< 1392019217 342012 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1260.79 m. I wonder if that's good or bad.
< 1392019247 839212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite good, IIRC
< 1392019535 500930 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess not so good, because on second attempt I got 2800.11m. I think that's enough, though.
< 1392019578 611771 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't really understand the game mechanics. This time there was some sort of a "cosmic force field".
< 1392020126 505635 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that wikipedia article has them, I think
< 1392020311 335196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it was very informative.
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< 1392020438 972509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, 2650.02m
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< 1392020457 814396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was not obvious to me at first that there was any audience participation beyond the first click
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< 1392020711 333463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This 6502 assembly code program contains a table "db 0,0,1,255,1,0,0" which is used in a few different ways, by reading it starting at different offsets; in one case it even uses the low two bits of the flag register as an index into this table.
< 1392020721 823578 :trn!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392020745 677459 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This wasn't entire intentional; I just found that I could use the same table in several ways, so I did.)
< 1392020799 587113 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you aware what the flag bits are in 6502 programming?
< 1392020904 793172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, although I can't remember which order they're in
< 1392020916 487081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you push them onto the stack in order to get them into the X/Y register?
< 1392020928 443146 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1392020949 331297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although you cannot pop from the stack directly into the X or Y register
< 1392021011 730201 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The low two bits of the flag register happen to be the carry flag at bit0, and the zero flag at bit1.
< 1392021065 682003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how common it is to perform arithmetic on the flag register
< 1392021103 929638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or to perform arithmetic on instruction opcodes, which I have also done.
< 1392021166 896465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of any such things?
< 1392021203 375933 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think in some extended 6502 instructions sets it is possible to take from the stack directly into a X register, but not in the normal 6502 anyways.)
< 1392021324 610109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you do with arithmetic on instruction opcodes?
< 1392021359 50519 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in one of my programs I have a system call to read() which overwrites part of an instruction, but not an opcode
< 1392021369 970348 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I mean adding, subtracting, exclusive ORing, etc numbers and storing the result in a RAM where it will be executed as an instruction opcode.
< 1392021386 611552 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What program is that, and what CPU?
< 1392021395 731860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amd64 cpu
< 1392021409 185638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will show you the program when it is ready
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< 1392021541 15723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why is it useful to do arithmetic on opcodes, though?
< 1392021611 60895 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to sleep now, though
< 1392021612 156674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night
< 1392021692 974080 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is the relevant code:   AND #$04   ASL A   ASL A   ASL A   STA  blocks right on the page; long programs are normally linked externally but can be placed on subpages
< 1392053443 925219 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
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< 1392054094 622588 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you see the purpose of my     AND #$04   ASL A   ASL A   ASL A   STA /dev/null
< 1392063702 221897 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Including GB2312/EUC-CN and Windows code page 936.)
< 1392063857 470732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at some other characters narrows it down to probably just cp936.
< 1392063906 54965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The correspondence between 脿 and à, to be precise.)
< 1392063945 818207 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised that there are encodings that would pick just 128 CJK characters to include in the high bits, if they're that complex
< 1392063955 937156 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem so useful to have such a small subset of the characters available
< 1392064011 303885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm? UTF-8 è and à are two-byte encodings, and translate to a single CJK character (猫, 脿) in those. Unless you're talking about some other encodings.
< 1392064110 938568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, I thought it was being translated from Latin-1
< 1392064117 963332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'm used to codepages being 8-bit
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< 1392064352 857365 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe CP936 is one of the Windows "DBCS" schemes, which is a multi-byte scheme with 00..7f alone as single-byte characters, and 80..ff as "lead bytes" that signal the start of a two-byte character, with the trailing half allowed to be any byte.
< 1392064368 593095 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So 2^15+2^7 available characters.)
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< 1392064626 269186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I can really understand what it's trying to say, even after fixing the encoding.
< 1392064644 442232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It reads like some autogenerated spam filler text.
< 1392064659 686897 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it /is/ autogenerated spam filler text?
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< 1392065281 133535 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nice detective work
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< 1392072836 352893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1xi8kd/this_week_in_rust_9_feb_2014/cfblq3e
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< 1392074979 235348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i found definite proof that your 3 1 6 3 2 1 4 n was false for the remaining cases
< 1392074990 370193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see talk page)
< 1392075001 752228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+conjecture
< 1392075102 300501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: also i don't think lexicographic order means what you think it means.
< 1392075124 651230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by which i mean, any sequence starting 11 is before 142)
< 1392075211 495385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(regardless of length)
< 1392075249 209620 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there is a wiktionary entry for the word 'esolangs'
< 1392075258 946097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay
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< 1392076296 678800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: btw you could consider n=4 the same type as n=10, although you need to note then that the alignment will never be odd.
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< 1392080764 755679 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racket has something it calls 3D syntax. Sadly, it seems to merely be "(syntax that contains unwritable values, etc)"
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< 1392080903 660680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wins 1 point in the "guess what Sgeo is talking about just from the single first letter visible in the background window"
< 1392080911 845133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, *scores
< 1392080957 994694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+game
< 1392080978 167470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION loses points for not reading his own lines before pressing return
< 1392080993 45721 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you guys give me tips for making esolangs without really trying
< 1392081061 319941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick a weird layout for memory and program, possibly separately
< 1392081133 867655 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that was the plan
< 1392081138 455595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :steal commands/keywords from ordinary languages, give them single character names
< 1392081150 828662 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to do this in half an hour a week on thursday
< 1392081170 303522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively give them themed names
< 1392081194 680056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but i somehow expect you to have better taste)
< 1392081233 80053 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am worried my audience will be expecting Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download 2
< 1392081281 977019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, steal combinator birds instead. rename them to flowers.
< 1392081284 614379 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...on another note, I've just got a 418 error
< 1392081309 153442 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I want to do as little planning but as much preparation as possible
< 1392081343 977520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see.
< 1392081397 90709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bring a box of legos.  use those for syntax.
< 1392081425 178895 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, I want vague ideas about which direction I want to go in, but I don't want to actually have anything defined
< 1392081436 585282 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.inedo.com/2010/10/12/http-418-im-a-teapot-finally-a-%E2%80%9Clegitimate%E2%80%9D-use/
< 1392081448 471646 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really a legitimate use, but still
< 1392081463 205015 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can imagine frustratingly implementing that sort of thing
< 1392081499 650458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: in fact construct the first 3d esolang.
< 1392081506 124685 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1392081518 582303 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, isn't there some 3D funges?
< 1392081520 823695 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: come on, you've played 4d scrabble, you should suggest 4d esolang
< 1392081537 934774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i'm afraid lego won't be up to the challenge
< 1392081541 593907 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, nD funges are pretty boring once you get the idea
< 1392081563 558476 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, apparently, you were judge, not player
< 1392081572 545947 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based off this esolang log I fojd
< 1392081586 577223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i assume you mean frc log
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< 1392081612 699123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, i may have discussed it here...
< 1392081623 732285 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tunes.org/~nef//logs/esoteric/13.06.09
< 1392081669 745776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was an frc round, anyway.
< 1392081710 575000 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392081712 131356 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iotatedcoin pbocoin surfcoin delcoin doguecoin clavcoin catorcoin bullcoin sphcoin squodetroccoin brcalcoin bircoin fromorecoin feemcoin bitflipcoin bf-dercoin fragacoin extenundcoin snowfcoin markanweicoin
< 1392081810 123036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doguecoin, so francais, much beau
< 1392081836 646985 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:08:15  I wonder when I'll start having nostalgia for Cablevision's offices
< 1392081836 826616 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:08:23  did you quit
< 1392081836 826770 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:08:57  no
< 1392081857 806532 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since this conversation occurred, I have been relocated to a different office
< 1392081867 991754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it better or worse?
< 1392081901 329065 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's diagonal. And worse.
< 1392081914 337554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :diagonal?
< 1392081949 21638 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My cube is at the corner of two perpendicular hallways. There is a third hallway diagonal to those hallways
< 1392081970 904558 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a bit disorienting at first
< 1392081994 340755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually a huge arrow pointing to Sgeo
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< 1392085517 818476 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what do you call the ordering where you sort by length and then sort by the first symbol within lengths, then sort by the second symbol within those with the same length and first symbol etc...
< 1392085648 469486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not quite sure.
< 1392085689 552769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a given base, if you ignore leading zeros, it's the same as "numerical order"
< 1392085831 172358 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for base aleph_0?
< 1392085835 986803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortlex_order
< 1392085888 265595 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1392085892 636033 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :got it
< 1392086042 573423 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "the alignment will never be odd" is enough to prove that the zeros will never disappear?
< 1392086094 94652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for 4, yes.
< 1392086132 740192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for larger than 4, it's not necessary, but with 4 if you hit on 04400440... in that order it completely self-deletes
< 1392086156 522580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in that alignment
< 1392086166 210138 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. what suffices for the other cases then?
< 1392086189 587991 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like why do the zeros never show up in the first or second positions?
< 1392086247 700794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they might, but the strings are long enough that you will get a reproduction later anyhow
< 1392086262 130435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact the case where the zero is second is the worst one
< 1392086281 562071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the only reason i need four copies of the n-1 n's block
< 1392086392 768408 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. were you able to simultaneously apply all this logic to all of them, and then just grep runs of them?
< 1392086395 515264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or n-2 n's, for the 0 0 case
< 1392086409 960127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes.
< 1392086455 843563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the cases where the alignment starts with n n work essentially the same, and there are just 2-3 other positions to consider.
< 1392086492 939196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the logic is not significantly different for different n>=5
< 1392086556 966349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : n … n 0 n … n 0 n … n 0 n … n
< 1392086557 187387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :.   * * . ;     :
< 1392086568 249343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my summary diagram for the logic
< 1392086625 613180 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's settled then. Now there's only a couple of things I really want to know about it: 1) am i right that universality is still achievable if we bound the number of symbols?
< 1392086661 263803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well of course, just take a universal tag system and apply ais523's perl program to it
< 1392086683 381971 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) is there a nice block that includes an arbitrary length-n string and copies itself f(n) times for any linear f?
< 1392086742 935520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(afaict the initial state of the tag system doesn't influence the symbols used, only the lookup table/"alphabet" does)
< 1392086767 365375 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: his program incorporates the initial condition into the generated program. I'm not perfectly certain about how it works that we can bound the max number for all possible inputs
< 1392086781 898282 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i can't tell. i was hoping so.
< 1392086816 954427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the initial condition is afaict just concatenating the representation for each symbol as derived from the condition-independent alphabet.
< 1392086818 490135 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case, my question is: what's an upper bound on that number? unfortunately, i can't find an explicit representation of a universal tag system anywhere.
< 1392086934 164206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know either
< 1392086976 1429 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mistated question 2. in fact, i don't know how to phrase that question right now. but i would at least like to have a block pattern which can create a constant number of copies of itself including an arbitrary string.
< 1392086984 396975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for (2) what do you mean by using a function?  i'm pretty sure we can make a block that copies itself m times and contains a length n arbitrarily chosen substring
< 1392087036 94428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i just rephrased it, then :P
< 1392087036 314089 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i would think so, but i would also like it to be short and simple :P
< 1392087041 326087 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not what my real question is though. but i don't know what my real question is.
< 1392087068 389432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm probably adjust the 4 2 4 2 ... thing
< 1392087089 645688 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been trying to!
< 1392087148 346237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think it needs something at the end too
< 1392087228 661439 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, except things at the end may cause it to interact with other blocks!
< 1392087266 309783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm
< 1392087287 638082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is tricky.
< 1392087293 419677 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :inorite
< 1392087311 950839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is getting anything _between_ the copies.
< 1392087326 670519 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed
< 1392087337 649994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you need two passes.
< 1392087361 508434 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds more likely. one pass for the head, one for the tail?
< 1392087375 709376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really
< 1392087392 145322 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah probably not
< 1392087400 553683 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :some intermediate form then
< 1392087445 141966 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe one pass makes two copies the arbitrary string, and another inserts the header between them somehow
< 1392087465 788792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. you cannot swap things efficiently.
< 1392087476 556241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but intermediate form, yes.
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< 1392088218 705015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, 4 2 m n 4 2 can do the prepending
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< 1392088529 201446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically prepend 4 2 (n+6) m  to any sequence which is already self-preserving.
< 1392088547 468323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1392088557 493516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*4 2 (n+6) m 4 2
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< 1392088599 425407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ^
< 1392088776 716412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the next step, it will be the same, except with (n+22) m prepended, which then copies all of it m times.
< 1392088862 370711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm in fact 4 2 x y 4 2  is a more basic building block of the 4 2 4 2 4 2 4 2 construction.
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< 1392088974 791496 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what language this is
< 1392089362 172889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's resplicate
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< 1392091066 445651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: my rewordings while editing the page made me think of one possible subtlety of my mental model for queue-like languages like this: i'm thinking of the queue as more of a _circle_ that the ip is moving on, and the commands don't so much append to the queue as they are replacing themselves with their result...
< 1392091153 40228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this can apply to stack languages like underload as well (see the rewriting section in that)
< 1392091175 352781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and msm, which is a combination
< 1392091298 371763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well for stack languages not the circle part, but the replacing part)
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< 1392091897 284998 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah 4 2 mn 5
< 1392091906 750324 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :42mn42 is what i was thinking about
< 1392091913 246624 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but got distracted by olympics
< 1392092060 457189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm
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< 1392094124 383592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392094126 158978 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fryinglycoin circcoin acrotcoin hangcoin remonecoin tranocoin inlcoin objectcoin phawacoin kiploycoin bitiocoin kolmocoin micasmittcoin rcemanacoin poientedicasmicoin proomcoin ihatcoin tedcoin georylovecoin herstasiccoin
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< 1392094569 225369 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat coins
< 1392094569 760471 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: coins: No such file or directory
< 1392094586 351367 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which coins)
< 1392094586 822871 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --eng-1M --esolangs 20 | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g'
< 1392094596 826499 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tech
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< 1392095094 349700 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I thought they all exist
< 1392095115 457559 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1392095169 684028 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they are somehow generated via coingen.io
< 1392095171 765501 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::S
< 1392095245 828593 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they have a bot interface
< 1392095361 6193 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but not hard to automate
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< 1392099595 911541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (944)
< 1392099596 809413 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (944): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily
< 1392099635 865336 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392100006 549447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392100008 222219 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :homesprolcoin excocoin alcucoin mycecoin gottcoin gamcoin wilsofcoin lnutacoin rocecoin x-dcoin tarcoin faltcoin neurcoin burrcoin cobosencoin brachcoin photomycoin aheuicoin bicecoin dateflindexeucoin
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< 1392101084 775621 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tychaf
< 1392101170 883354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungotocracy
< 1392101171 208495 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no, it's not. it's more complex than that. read the code.) good stuff
< 1392101564 206281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: have you read your own code
< 1392101564 728422 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i am just as confused. you, in that line, that i have gone totally wanting, and then you can choose fnord, but don't
< 1392101582 188794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i choose not to choose fnord
< 1392101582 484386 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's what that guy in medina, a village near the mystic mountain" 65,000,000 b. c.? yes, i'd have done something very brave? fnord 06:22, 29, no. 2, 2, 3, 4, 8, 13, 1(::**) ...bad insn!
< 1392101602 249496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dis86 4daf5f1e95
< 1392101602 988166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scasq; pop rdi; invalid; xchg ebp, eax;
< 1392101646 709831 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid; is the best instruction.
< 1392101652 542411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`as86 ud2
< 1392101653 370745 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0f0b
< 1392101656 695334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dis86 0f0b
< 1392101657 407706 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ud2;
< 1392101668 334662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the instruction that's defined to be undefined
< 1392101677 582472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot what happened to ud1, maybe somebody defined it by accident
< 1392101706 35985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`as86 ud1
< 1392101706 879847 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0fb9
< 1392101716 159984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dis86 0fb9
< 1392101716 786937 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid;
< 1392102203 746630 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fungot spouting underload now
< 1392102203 876790 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so, let's say i call them mindless games. if we hit every stupid person, any person going, tough one. if we solve it,...
< 1392102247 225579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun asm("ud2");
< 1392102248 352419 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Illegal instruction
< 1392102275 728641 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1392102275 781415 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot* homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
< 1392102291 308267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun asm("ud1");
< 1392102292 286781 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Illegal instruction
< 1392102325 120300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/as86
< 1392102325 772339 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as="$1"; shift; echo ".intel_syntax noprefix; $as" | gcc "$@" -c -x assembler /dev/stdin -o /tmp/as86.o && objcopy -O binary /tmp/as86.{o,bin} && xxd -p /tmp/as86.bin
< 1392102428 628511 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some complicated shite right there.
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< 1392103251 801048 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :
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< 1392104265 954459 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "Use the 0F0B opcode (UD2 instruction) or the 0FB9 opcode when deliberately trying to generate an invalid opcode exception (#UD)."
< 1392104281 831336 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's still proerply undefined. Don't know about names.
< 1392104295 267157 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pro-ERPly.
< 1392104298 910498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whence quote
< 1392104331 261499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's some OS out there which uses ud2 as the syscall instruction
< 1392104374 4828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intel's instruction set manual, volume 2, Table A-1 "Superscripts Utilized in Opcode Tables", entry "1B".
< 1392104391 321898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is used in both the 0F0B and 0FB9 table entries.)
< 1392105456 718605 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll also ask here i guess:  i have a (universal) algebra A in some variety, say it's an abelian group, so the type is (+, 2), (^{-1}, 1), (1, 0). i say a function f : A \to A is \emph{nice} if it can be built as follows: the identity map and constant maps are nice, and if $g$ is nice and $c \in A$, then $x \mapsto g(x) + c$, $x \mapsto c + g(x)$, $x \mapsto g(x)^{-1}$ and $x \mapsto 1$ are nice. is there a better name for nice?
< 1392105512 622922 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically the functions you can build out of a single variable x and any algebra operations with constants from the algebra
< 1392105534 722831 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for rings, these are the affine maps x \mapsto ax + b
< 1392105541 994441 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have usually called them affine maps
< 1392107490 992294 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392107774 385196 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAXE HAS MACROS???
< 1392107790 619573 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should actually take a look at it, instead of just instantly dismissing it as boring
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< 1392110037 298416 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2004/12/15/313250.aspx
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< 1392114090 864747 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: and SYSENTER is born.
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< 1392127298 315677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : hi tech <-- was wondering for a moment who you were greeting, there
< 1392127487 77692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK
< 1392127496 227954 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always do that when it no works.
< 1392127510 710245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: metasepia leaves when boily does.
< 1392127565 346696 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not know that. Why is it so? 
< 1392127583 861121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll have to ask boily, it's his bot
< 1392127625 599399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily Why does metasepia leave when you do? 
< 1392127625 750883 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1392128720 744811 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392129617 444964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darths & droids #1000 today
< 1392129643 760630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't forget the usual bonus comic)
< 1392130162 229738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what.
< 1392130202 791710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY FORGOT THE BONUS COMIC
< 1392130226 574595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's related to the fact sromg hasn't updated either.
< 1392131099 259530 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
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< 1392131608 351206 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what bonus comic?
< 1392131618 238697 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1392131626 43402 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do those follow some regular schedule?
< 1392131697 466352 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: by bonus comic, you mean the ones branching from #50, right?
< 1392131822 929398 :samebchase!~samuel@codesurfers.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392131955 984892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1392131972 624101 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392131978 923768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they usually appear every 50th ordinary comic
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< 1392132397 308683 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
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< 1392134502 226643 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: could your tag-to-resplicate converter be easily adjusted to output only even-length sequences with even numbers in the odd positions?
< 1392134766 876320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes
< 1392134836 245300 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish i knew perl better, or understood the algorithm enough to reimplement in something I better understand
< 1392134867 569431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only tricky thing that program does is build expressions as strings, that are 'eval'ed later
< 1392134884 541841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, @array can either refer to the array as a whole, or the number of elements in it
< 1392134894 976234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which can make that program a little confusing at times
< 1392134985 216838 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 523 is clearly just some sort of flag (based on your name) which could have been any number?
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< 1392135245 201359 :ruthie!~ruthie@c-98-225-143-81.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PART #esoteric :"DANG"
< 1392135246 285423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even a flag, just a dummy cell
< 1392135259 455009 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1392135293 187433 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm changing it to zero :P
< 1392135341 885852 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is that it doesn't matter
< 1392135367 927056 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it annoys me that it generates a program which is shortened by its first step. (it starts 2 1 78 0)
< 1392135507 356920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean it could put the 78 0 at the /end/ instead? that'd annoy me even more
< 1392135513 709642 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then it'd be out of order
< 1392135636 751187 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always manually move it to the end when i save it :P
< 1392135707 681848 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so about these 1's that keep showing up in the odd positions...how to make them even numbers?
< 1392135753 465255 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, in general, how to change odds to evens?
< 1392135779 277533 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392136012 299736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the code that generates the 523 padding has an odd length (3), and the length of that code determines the length of the padding
< 1392136055 32586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you make the padding-generation code have an even length (e.g. by padding by copying a length-2 string not a length-1 string), the required length of padding will be an even length too
< 1392136088 912101 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392136118 703572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and then my header merge suggestion will work >:)
< 1392136205 225842 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's why i'm trying to do it
< 1392136216 258467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha
< 1392136242 176802 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because as you've demonstrated, there is a simple meta-symbol construction for "ResPairate"
< 1392136282 876845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i may have thought that, but did i actually say it?
< 1392136311 428582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that you can merge pairs into a single symbol if everything is even alignment)
< 1392136322 131825 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(namely, the pair (n,m) is replaced by the sequence (2,2)(n+11,m)(2,2)(2,2)(2,2)(2,2)(2,2)(0,0)(n,1)(0,0)(n,1))
< 1392136371 207231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what
< 1392136398 762884 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the metasymbol. you should recognize it. it's mostly yours. :P
< 1392136413 6197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes but what's a metasymbol
< 1392136433 372610 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sequence that behaves like a symbol. like metapixels in Life.
< 1392136472 520100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um that sequence double itself every second cycle, it doesn't behave like anything else?
< 1392136475 502440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s
< 1392136487 234626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er m-plies
< 1392136532 34587 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, you're right
< 1392136538 513166 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that n should be something*n
< 1392136559 350281 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah it's clearly possible
< 1392136591 637895 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably 11*n
< 1392136737 525442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my sequence is designed to preserve _itself_, not what's following.
< 1392136746 67676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*multiply
< 1392136747 192839 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so does push @alphabet, 2, (@alphabet + 5), 0, 0; do what you're saying? i'm not sure what the "5 numbers" you refer to are.
< 1392136785 510314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 5 numbers are the number of numbers pushed on that line, plus the number of numbers pushed on the next line
< 1392136789 614944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd need to change the 5 to 6
< 1392136796 986838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you'd need to divide by 2
< 1392136811 270283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're copying a two-element string, so you only need half as many copies
< 1392136823 352362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it'd be push @alphabet, 2, (@alphabet + 6) / 2, 0 , 0;
< 1392136831 72539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you need to change the end padding the same way
< 1392136849 521864 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it multiplies itself, including some string which it is prepended to. what if what is prepended to is another sequence just like itself? it should work i think.
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< 1392136924 539941 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and the trailing padding has to be modified in terms of a string to be eval'd? so i need to put the /2 into a string and concatenate it?
< 1392136933 429311 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes
< 1392136995 547719 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this: push @alphabet, 2, ('(@alphabet - '. @alphabet. ')/2'), 0, 0;
< 1392137030 128073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it keeps the thing it's prepended to completely inert.
< 1392137033 862374 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that looks right
< 1392137116 101633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my point is, something that works equivalent to the pair (m,n) needs _not_ to include itself in what it's multiplying.
< 1392137121 308623 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh wait. i see the problem. it imposes a copy of itself between all those symbols its prepended to.
< 1392137123 68758 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you were right. check the changes now.
< 1392137139 864226 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah it should fail to preserve itself instead
< 1392137152 558186 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that even easier though?
< 1392137152 973689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yay!
< 1392137160 54979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: probably
< 1392137268 211527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: in fact a trivial meta-symbol is (x,0) ...x arbitrary pairs... (m*(x+2),n)
< 1392137327 447636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the initial part can be replaced by anything that leaves no trace
< 1392137346 342285 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have m and n backwards from i am doing or am i just confused
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< 1392137446 798890 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you're right. metasymbols are really easy.
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< 1392137562 314122 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: by the way i ran collatz->tag->resplicate for n=27 and it 406542 steps to reach the period 40 oscillator, growing up to 2,170,200 on the way.
< 1392137582 97981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I tried doing that, but gave up waiting for it to finish :-)
< 1392137600 769733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can actually follow what the tag system is doing with some simple greps on the debug output of the interp
< 1392137603 719862 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: takes about one night's sleep to finish.
< 1392137644 583041 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392137652 592004 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you can actually follow the collatz one really easily just by watching the length of the queue from moment to moment (which is printed by the -l flag)
< 1392137679 962150 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :seeing as how it represents numbers in unary :P
< 1392137704 339366 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need a simple useful tag program that isn't the collatz sequence one from Wikipedia, really
< 1392137735 788464 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I guess generalized collatz (which is TC) shouldn't be too hard to compile to tag?
< 1392137742 22944 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you think it's possible to design a halt symbol that deletes itself when compiled to resplicate?
< 1392137780 952032 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392137798 14770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: not without modifying the rest of the construction, but it'd be trivial enough to slip in a "skip to this point in the next symbol" construction to the initial padding
< 1392137801 572022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you could just jump to that
< 1392137807 903023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all the symbols would delete themselves in turn until the tape was empty
< 1392137900 652948 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the only problem i've been having with the whole "universal tag system" thing is that every thing I can find shows how particular /families/ of tag systems are universal. I have yet to find anything tag systems that let you encode other tag systems as the string to be modified and evaluates them.
< 1392137930 520212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: write a Turing Machine that evaluates tag sytems, compile it to a tag system
< 1392137945 776052 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes i know, but that will be HUEG
< 1392137965 716414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there's the question about how you do input
< 1392137974 606990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to give ResPlicate an output extension, at least
< 1392137995 674111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like "if the length is 0, the count is interpreted as a Unicode codepoint and written to stdout"
< 1392138002 939107 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't affect interps that don't understand it
< 1392138022 821490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use negative numbers for anything you want
< 1392138023 915736 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that is a nice way
< 1392138067 961792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually..
< 1392138069 565731 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that MIGHT affect some interps.
< 1392138075 148028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1392138075 429775 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392138077 109454 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :inccoin wheatchcoin cabraicoin wiercoin anocoin dellowierdongcoin palcoin cluticoin thersetcoin karmadigecoin gendelliorsquecoin htfcoin publecoin splcoin intfuccencoin clookcoin calcoin ariocoin nigmocoin juncoin
< 1392138081 355659 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on the language they are in and how they are implemented
< 1392138126 102456 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it have to be numbers?
< 1392138131 324781 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't it be a special entry?
< 1392138160 627403 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: backwards compat
< 1392138177 795559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is `coins like `words, but with "coin" at the end?
< 1392138180 66343 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words
< 1392138181 359001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do input with backwards compat, anyway.
< 1392138181 360090 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stu
< 1392138187 555429 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ideally, input would automatically be converted into some kind of useful format, such as your "alphabets"
< 1392138271 314682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1392138289 848077 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if there were a way to do that, we could compile PLATTS to ResPlicate
< 1392138632 594857 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's `words with an english-and-esolangs interpolated model, and coin at the end.
< 1392138769 223700 :tertu_!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392138781 174594 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Personally, I think it's impressively good at generating plausible cryptocurrency names, but then again that might be more of a comment on existing cryptocurrency names.)
< 1392138822 236113 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1392139129 225051 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah
< 1392139152 203702 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I like "palcoin". that's probably something endorsed by paypal
< 1392139581 678430 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there already a language that uses some kind of evolution?
< 1392139694 578054 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :all languages evolve!
< 1392139700 835254 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :english has evolved a lot
< 1392139708 694597 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then...so has Python
< 1392139733 374776 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as part of the concept
< 1392139898 467936 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an idea of a metalanguage that produces keywords of the underlying language through some evolutionary rules
< 1392140250 74650 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, stuff like that has certainly been done. for instance the Lymia's BFJoust programs
< 1392140276 407952 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh?
< 1392140389 356778 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :describe your concept
< 1392140555 546302 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i heard about evolutionary game theory an hour ago
< 1392140654 964646 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you have an instruction that rules for now, but because of some mutations another instruction might evolve and due to given rules might become the main population
< 1392140877 363258 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a fully-fledged idea yet :P
< 1392140928 864958 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have more details in mind, but i am on a smartphone right now, so i am too lazy to write that much details
< 1392140940 153393 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you think ResPairate would be TC with numcopies<=2?
< 1392140962 348788 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may just implement it after this semester is finally over
< 1392140965 888770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I think most likely yes, although I don't have a construction in mind
< 1392140973 72843 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: that's easy, just define a useful language and a half-useful compiler, but write its specification deliberately incomplete and remove some useful things so people want to add those as extensions,
< 1392140989 985388 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha
< 1392140991 239414 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then variants of the language incompatible with old programs will evolve naturally as people try to fix the language
< 1392141004 313974 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it's true!
< 1392141032 637306 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: also, cf. Mascarpoine
< 1392141038 23629 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Mascarpone
< 1392141052 26266 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1392141062 181222 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392141095 680871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: have you seen http://esolangs.org/wiki/Snowflake
< 1392141099 384306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sort of like that, except automatd
< 1392141101 512069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*automated
< 1392141106 770436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language definition fixes itself over time
< 1392141113 735896 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have an interp, though
< 1392141139 4610 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I had glanced at it earlier, but didn't understand much of it
< 1392141162 23912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a problem with my concepts that require a lot of effort to execute on
< 1392141189 654596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the most extreme example being Feather, which not even I understand)
< 1392141189 654792 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"feather"?
< 1392141194 564763 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a "sather" language I think
< 1392141207 1441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Feather
< 1392141234 994248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, has Feather stopped being a #esoteric meme some time in the last year? /me rejoices
< 1392141249 819244 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1392141257 388669 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it related to sather besides rhiming the name?
< 1392141280 718325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1392141325 647316 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392141399 743095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically a simple OO language that uses time travel for inheritance, is written entirely in itself (going back infinitely many layers), and is designed to look like Smalltalk except for different reasons
< 1392141484 26222 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :time travel.... wait, I have a writeup about that
< 1392141491 498169 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you might have seen it)
< 1392141506 257279 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/git-extensions
< 1392141524 889029 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's even on-topic here
< 1392141544 746453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yeah, the first paragraph reminds me a lot of Scapegoat
< 1392141554 457227 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I have done like 2 hours of work on in the past year
< 1392141662 350924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the infinite history thing is reminiscent of Feather, though
< 1392141677 751944 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, that's why I said time travel reminds me to it
< 1392141690 865548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the way it's implemented in Feather is, it goes back finitely many levels, then if you try to go past the end of it it retroactively increases the number of levels it used
< 1392141695 760125 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, besides that I explicitly mention time machine)
< 1392141700 856674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, or would be implemented, if anyone had a clue how to mention Feather
< 1392141736 880980 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I specifically say that: "These meta levels spring into existence lazily as you reference them, so if you reference meta^p-history for the first time, then the meta^q-history for all p < q is considered to always have contained a single default meta^p-branch."
< 1392141778 151305 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's not completely gone from lore tho. for instance...
< 1392141783 414266 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ais523 
< 1392141786 22419 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agent “Iä” Smith is an alien with a strange allergy to avian body covering, which he is trying to retroactively prevent from ever evolving. On the 3rd of March, he's lawful good.
< 1392141786 638905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*how to implement Feather
< 1392141803 991722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Feather isn't quite the same as laziness
< 1392141819 486228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that it involves reconstructing the entire gamestate from scratch
< 1392141911 754226 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, I'm too incoherent to write meaningful sentences
< 1392141916 5135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should go sleep
< 1392141917 984928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1392141921 402268 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :(
< 1392142134 705510 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lold @ lawful good
< 1392142449 525217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungots fall on fungot falls
< 1392142449 954919 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ( that is, levinson went to kish, disappeared, had on your behalf of the commission. at the moment. wheee, shiny.'). the solution is to produce the bonds i.e fnord between the karma and our fnord causeway. the scene uses hare coursing as a metaphor and may be fnord to other military genius, indeed, from country, have the fnord so fnord a series of really coy riddles about it and stop the eval loop, stable or otherwise fail
< 1392142487 127967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: have you heard the new album by Levinson and the Commission
< 1392142487 428565 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that is just a value of type " airbus is a big fan of avril....but this song " there
< 1392142503 79619 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking the non-digit symbol is the best way to add input to ResPlicate. it doesn't matter that it will cause non-compliant interps to break since, a) there's really only one published interp right now and b) if a program needs user input, what it does couldn't be emulated by the current implementation anyway.
< 1392142529 458502 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case I think a construction like n ? {n symbols} is the way to go
< 1392142535 726767 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well, you could have two versions of the language, one without input and one with input
< 1392142569 769445 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: or 90 VERSIONS OF THE LANGUAGE. RIGHT? RIGHT?
< 1392142583 711928 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS NINETY EVEN ENOUGH?
< 1392142597 279158 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many versions has python had
< 1392142639 295682 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, try to make the langauge definition as simple as possible. if it's universal with input just queueing a byte and pushing a single number between 0 and 257, make it do that even if it's harder to program
< 1392142660 620013 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least java had the class to update their language such that programs are forward-compatible
< 1392142661 984892 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make sure the input thing doesn't make programming easier
< 1392142710 544577 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget python, how many incompatible version did _ruby_ have? over ten I think
< 1392142724 752952 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby guys are just not interested in compatibility 
< 1392142731 588057 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: of course it's universal with (whatever input method you want) because it's universal!
< 1392142749 342841 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they rename methods removing the old name for as feeble reasons as deciding their name isn't perfect
< 1392142793 208803 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: by universal, I don't mean it should just be turing-complete, but also that it should be able to emulate any bf program
< 1392142797 915491 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :theoretically
< 1392142847 907354 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then say BF-complete
< 1392142871 435458 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, just enqueueing a byte from input would probably make it BF-complete
< 1392142877 905981 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@cust-208-22.on5.ontelecoms.gr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392142889 341408 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the n ? thing could then be done on the second pass
< 1392142924 637209 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't confirm or deny that, because I really don't understand all this tag system queue language stuff
< 1392143047 167180 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually
< 1392143061 597289 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmmmm
< 1392143131 550484 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1392143343 854973 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the current interpreter would interpreter 0 -1 exactly the same as 0 0, which means I could use -1 as the input
< 1392143434 662164 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :would the input just add the unicode codepoint to the end or do some encoding?
< 1392143786 376684 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode code point? um
< 1392143798 835015 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be better to input bytes imo
< 1392143826 744258 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :inputting unicode code points in this language could be dangerous. 
< 1392143838 743460 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, true
< 1392143858 976347 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also make it input bits, but that might make programming too easy
< 1392143866 38666 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, it might be worth
< 1392143873 429271 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would make sense to change the output to bytes, too
< 1392143962 908252 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that is what i am doing
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< 1392149985 970399 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this place is sad with no oerjan and neither alex
< 1392150035 975069 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392150148 194297 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bot
< 1392150148 236456 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1392150157 919779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all fungot all the time
< 1392150158 263598 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc:, so i'd be happy to help an fnord archive), and, burning, and no clear account. in that second one is horizontally displaced by 1 pixel is sacred. just me, or i: yet, you rogue!
< 1392150163 996390 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: see, lambdabot is happy ;)
< 1392151322 593389 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is every pixel sacred, or just that one pixel?
< 1392151322 996070 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: no, it's not. it's more complex than that. read the code.) good stuff like " thisfunction2 thislineofcode")) but have to seek. hee. i wan to faster finish the game could
< 1392151367 494207 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sounds tricky
< 1392151367 992310 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that is just a value of type " airbus is a big fan of avril....but this song " there
< 1392151508 23468 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
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< 1392153823 197497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: failed to find an implementation of trait std::iter::FromIterator for [type error]
< 1392153834 710410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a language where you can define instances for type errors!
< 1392154092 122531 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that was usual in languages with object-oriented error shite
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< 1392155069 9018 :JZTech101!~JZTech101@botters/jztech101 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392155299 187043 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/puffnfresh/status/433348860413353984
< 1392155399 588382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw somebody claim that Satoshi solved the Byzantine Generals' problem...
< 1392155767 835996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It’s like assembling Lego" it's funny how this exact thing has been said about every programming system since at least the dawn of OOP
< 1392155966 860569 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"$2.6 million is a pretty hefty seed round. But given this startup’s provenance, it makes perfect sense." omg and the picture
< 1392155990 462394 :Guest65497!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is there a startup for a package manager
< 1392156044 583725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest65497: it's because "Investors are churning around developer tools these days as software makers gain more and more control and mindshare in an increasingly crowded universe of data and devices"
< 1392156056 307260 :Guest65497!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1392156061 244637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this totally makes sense and is not a nonsense sentence at all
< 1392156844 231534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392157294 848223 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun project: prove Haskell's lens library, on its own, without any functions not exported from Control.Lens or other modules in the library, is turing complete
< 1392157355 239355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: do you think ResPairate would be TC with numcopies<=2? <-- i'd think it would, too.  e.g. the self-preservation prefix has that property, so there's no problem keeping things stable in one part of the queue, which means you can use as many cycles as you want to handle a single tag, which means you can multiply the alphabet in several doubling steps to get as many as you want.
< 1392157388 659207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the offset stuff is just deleting to where you want to start anew, which is just 0 copies.
< 1392157458 328082 :evalj!~jeval@BC064793.dsl.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392157601 126546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well someone did fibonacci already, so it cannot be too hard...
< 1392157615 83556 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, the fibonacci was me
< 1392157630 739469 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392157631 336081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely thought so, but i couldn't find your post again
< 1392157659 219371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be eminently qualified for the project, then.
< 1392157685 348648 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I defer to your experience in proving stupidly constrained systems turing complete
< 1392157697 550557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY
< 1392157808 514939 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got some ideas, though
< 1392158018 974331 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to try http://mirrors.talideon.com/articles/qbal/
< 1392158047 228106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs taneb.*fibonacci
< 1392158049 391167 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/hackenv/bin/pastelogs: line 2: cd: /var/irclogs/_esoteric: No such file or directory \ grep: ????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory \ http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.16743
< 1392158062 915490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for the despair, i did this.
< 1392158082 119994 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was... the week before last
< 1392158117 350735 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Thursday
< 1392158177 615197 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely a weekday
< 1392158210 924074 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sumOf ignored" should be a good search tearm
< 1392158340 259908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was not any time between 27-30 january.  unless glogbot was down.
< 1392158352 189431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-31
< 1392158361 748872 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I was triple-wrong
< 1392158366 978637 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was the 2nd of February
< 1392158413 45657 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2014-02-02#213420Taneb
< 1392158518 232734 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Control.Lens export curried though?
< 1392158529 751279 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> view curried (view simple) (sumOf ignored (&)) (productOf ignored (&)) ^.. over mapped (iterated ((over mapped (view flipped (mapped %~) (sumOf both ^. curried)) (over mapped (mapped %~) (view simple ^. curried))) ^. flipped & over mapped (perform (acts&mapped%~acts)) & review curried)) _1
< 1392158531 770395 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946,...
< 1392158536 692081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t curried
< 1392158537 500426 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Functor f1, Profunctor p) => p (a -> b -> c) (f1 (d -> e -> f)) -> p ((a, b) -> c) (f1 ((d, e) -> f))
< 1392158541 333612 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1392158549 627641 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was confusing it with curry
< 1392158558 975422 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t curried :: Iso' ((a, b) -> c) (a -> b -> c)
< 1392158559 903246 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Functor f, Profunctor p) => p (a -> b -> c) (f (a -> b -> c)) -> p ((a, b) -> c) (f ((a, b) -> c))
< 1392158576 732406 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could possibly make use of & to reduce the brackets
< 1392158629 920674 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, you're welcome to give it a go
< 1392158661 414561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the obvious thing is to extract ordinary functions like (.) const etc. somehow
< 1392158676 108817 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t over mapped `asTypeOf` (.)
< 1392158677 165546 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b -> c) -> (a -> b) -> a -> c
< 1392158692 612536 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t view simple `asTypeOf` id
< 1392158693 609004 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> a
< 1392158693 610360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is asTypeOf exported by lens
< 1392158708 221255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's certainly not defined there
< 1392158716 817314 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't need it
< 1392158720 158763 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t over mapped
< 1392158721 248901 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => (a -> b) -> f a -> f b
< 1392158721 959363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1392158732 287488 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> over mapped (+1) (*3) 4
< 1392158734 305964 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13
< 1392158746 60918 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: To be honest, I don't want to
< 1392158762 116042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t view (view simple) `asTypeOf` const
< 1392158763 187044 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: a0 = b0 -> a0
< 1392158763 188470 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    When using functional dependencies to combine
< 1392158763 188626 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :      MonadReader r ((->) r),
< 1392158765 693919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1392158778 920695 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t mapped
< 1392158779 698977 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Functor f, Settable f1) => (a -> f1 b) -> f a -> f1 (f b)
< 1392158784 335647 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Handy
< 1392158818 34557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t view
< 1392158818 869581 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :MonadReader s m => Getting a s a -> m a
< 1392158844 572119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t view id `asTypeOf` const
< 1392158845 268988 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: a0 = b0 -> a0
< 1392158845 375477 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    When using functional dependencies to combine
< 1392158845 376396 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :      MonadReader r ((->) r),
< 1392158856 114191 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :view id == id
< 1392158857 915421 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t view id
< 1392158858 989849 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :MonadReader s m => m s
< 1392158867 855251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok
< 1392158887 213408 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t over ixed
< 1392158888 53567 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `ixed'
< 1392158897 340538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right it's return which is const, not ask
< 1392158907 799239 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t over mapped over ixed
< 1392158908 785728 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `ixed'
< 1392158910 438507 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t over mapped over ix
< 1392158911 703694 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Indexable (Index t) p, Ixed Mutator t) => Index t -> p (IxValue t) (IxValue t) -> t -> t
< 1392158919 523074 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope
< 1392158930 74077 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t over return
< 1392158930 851409 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'm off now
< 1392158930 902428 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Couldn't match type `p0 a0' with `Mutator'
< 1392158930 903584 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Expected type: Setting p0 s0 (Mutator b0) a0 b0
< 1392158930 903735 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :      Actual type: p0 a0 (Mutator b0) -> s0 -> p0 a0 (Mutator b0)
< 1392158946 935292 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's handy how id is the identity lens
< 1392159122 899702 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1392159125 572062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t view (over mapped curried _1)
< 1392159126 533636 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(MonadReader ((a1, b) -> c) m, Field1 (a1 -> b -> c) (a1 -> b -> c) a a) => m a
< 1392159136 598647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t view (over mapped curried _1) `asTypeOf` const
< 1392159137 460087 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Field1 (a -> b -> c) (a -> b -> c) (b1 -> (a, b) -> c) (b1 -> (a, b) -> c) => ((a, b) -> c) -> b1 -> (a, b) -> c
< 1392159146 754001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nope.
< 1392159169 853545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t view curried _1 `asTypeOf` const
< 1392159170 715719 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Could not deduce (Indexable Int (,)) arising from a use of `_1'
< 1392159170 716799 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    from the context (Functor f, Field1 s t (s -> f t) b)
< 1392159170 716951 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :      bound by the inferred type of
< 1392159179 965911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t review curried _1 `asTypeOf` const
< 1392159180 834213 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type:
< 1392159180 836911 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :      b0 = p0 a0 (b1 -> b0)
< 1392159180 837065 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    When using functional dependencies to combine
< 1392159184 654441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah
< 1392159191 150827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not thinking clearly enough.
< 1392159200 371721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm
< 1392159216 723428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t view curried (view _1)
< 1392159217 461266 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> b -> a
< 1392159221 451644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go
< 1392159256 619877 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t curry fst
< 1392159257 635965 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :c -> b -> c
< 1392159265 92009 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know of any Q-Bal interpreters?
< 1392159448 137557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t set both
< 1392159449 312141 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b -> (a, a) -> (b, b)
< 1392159478 306002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm pesky unnecessary argument
< 1392159482 512349 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t set each
< 1392159484 77755 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each Mutator s t a b => b -> s -> t
< 1392159520 356111 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Technically ('a','a') is fully syntax
< 1392159521 679347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> set both 1 undefined
< 1392159524 89671 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : (1,1)
< 1392159535 309725 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined isn't
< 1392159547 187960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: i don't think Taneb wants constructors from outside lens
< 1392159561 704831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if they're sugared
< 1392159579 889509 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about prisms?
< 1392159587 864104 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a tuple prism?
< 1392159625 783370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :prisms are for data types with more than one constructor, mainly...
< 1392159654 711513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, "structural" prisms are
< 1392159682 831982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course you can have a prism for anything that you can express as a sum
< 1392159703 336038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prism' s a = exists r. s ~ (Either r a)
< 1392159737 156735 :Speed`!~Speed@192.241.167.234 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392159786 914928 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the Left value useful for anything other than the constructor itself?
< 1392160001 802099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t both
< 1392160002 888199 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative f => (a -> f b) -> (a, a) -> f (b, b)
< 1392160017 583685 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392160130 579632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t joined
< 1392160131 606349 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Not in scope: `joined'
< 1392160131 704061 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Perhaps you meant `join' (imported from Control.Monad.Writer)
< 1392160138 812482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :worth a try :P
< 1392160317 482820 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems a Q-BAL interpreter doesn't exist ):
< 1392160730 675788 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392160818 686638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : this place is sad with no oerjan and neither alex <-- there are two alex?
< 1392160898 671532 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.171-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392160994 599849 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.171-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Client Quit
< 1392161188 607026 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392161771 641170 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1392162140 668192 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392162465 248703 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392162579 285865 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
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< 1392164017 428684 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: boily
< 1392164070 918238 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you know if it's to convert all tag systems into a form where no production produces more than two symbols?
< 1392164460 102978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you accidentally a lot
< 1392164598 614320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shall assume the missing word is "evil", in which case the answer is "maybe".
< 1392164671 694925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm
< 1392164696 765993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know about the question you are trying to ask.
< 1392164723 771716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm...
< 1392164728 577897 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392164842 611844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: BOO!
< 1392164911 103229 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392165591 257768 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wow. i typed out every word in that sentence, i'm sure of it. lag!
< 1392165614 157825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lag shouldn't work that way.
< 1392165627 445523 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does with mosh sometimes
< 1392165630 22509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they invented tcp for a reason, you know.
< 1392165634 576146 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosh uses udp
< 1392165649 820478 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Kindle Paperwhite keyboard sucks
< 1392165654 706254 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl
< 1392165676 13855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosh won't drop / reorder keystrokes though
< 1392165680 715221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has its own reliable transport on top of udp
< 1392165684 96932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell the mosh people they'd better have this fixed in good time before i take over the world, or they'll be SORRY.
< 1392165704 338647 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does mosh client work well in cygwin on Windows yet??
< 1392165745 261040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: if you are asking this as an intermediate stage for resPairate-2, i'm not sure that's a good idea.
< 1392165773 96306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to me that tag systems are too rigid to make that convenient.
< 1392165969 430796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if quintopia is lagged by several minutes.
< 1392165998 84132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not at the /ping level
< 1392166044 802395 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392166228 364194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Guest65497: you were just deregistered from Agora hth
< 1392166269 642944 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks
< 1392166288 328998 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was planning on reading the ruleset too
< 1392166289 495985 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/
< 1392166307 350907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can reregister, i believe.
< 1392166470 600693 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How're things going
< 1392166517 907409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there have been some major simplifications.  also there's a new game with complex number scores, and piracy.
< 1392166536 449740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is just watching.
< 1392167053 118773 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392168007 68456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I finally heard what happened to our building. Someone was playing ski-ball in an office and hit a sprinkler"
< 1392168079 496321 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1392168108 391439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid, stupid industry
< 1392168196 935944 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me
< 1392168207 566432 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of want to do some sort of summer internship this summer
< 1392168370 111880 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I have no idea where to look :/
< 1392168373 229650 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well what is a good place to start then? (i'm also asking it in case it makes it possible to have smaller UTMs)
< 1392168439 787070 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found out i need two letters of rec for any good internship so i'm p. doomed
< 1392168472 710970 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does taneb have recommendations
< 1392168493 137582 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I... probably could get some
< 1392168516 711651 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392168520 555075 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear Bike: Internships are good for experience. I recommend you get some. Love, Quintopia
< 1392168544 983417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i was thinking you can make an active tag that takes one cycle to add each prepended tag
< 1392168714 338608 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i could use an irrelevant one
< 1392168736 388716 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably can't ask my boss for one soon enough to get the one that looked really interesting, sigh
< 1392168741 895209 :Gdlckmywy!~Gdlckmywy@c-69-244-156-92.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392168759 905905 :Gdlckmywy!~Gdlckmywy@c-69-244-156-92.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PART :#esoteric
< 1392168802 21189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all passive tags have self-preservation prefixes
< 1392168863 322529 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and how do you stop it when it's done?
< 1392168888 52939 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So where is a good start for looking for internships
< 1392168921 249751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: by deleting the remainder...
< 1392168935 607505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the necessary following tags, naturally
< 1392168978 201201 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1392169047 106105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an active tag would have something like the format  n 2 ... n 2
< 1392169065 665865 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: bulletin boards at your school
< 1392169066 777021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait
< 1392169096 551746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an active tag would have something like the format   n 2  n 2
< 1392169118 54201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think when you're still a student you don't need super relevant recs
< 1392169135 629256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the header can use the first set to prepend whatever, and to produce the header for the next cycle
< 1392169165 168802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while the second set gets reduplicated each cycle
< 1392169181 939501 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'd be applying for an NSF thing rather than 'just an internship' though, you get thousands in room and board and shit like that
< 1392169184 530705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1392169189 725901 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just antsy about applying for things probably
< 1392169200 588251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case though there are probably a lot of people around who've done it before and can help you
< 1392169212 212186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the prepended stuff can probably take a cycle to settle down into the right format too.
< 1392169299 211930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it gets "run" before the next step of the active one.
< 1392169368 58605 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the active one prepends a bunch of copies?
< 1392169398 423323 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or one at a time?
< 1392169405 987730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one per cycle
< 1392169427 851956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you don't need to more than double stuff per cycle
< 1392169583 834123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you get some extra slack from the extra cycle for the prepended tag representation.
< 1392169640 775777 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you would prend n copies of the 'double this symbol' tag, and then each on executes one per cycle?
< 1392169709 436282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that got garbled...
< 1392169745 370910 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :prend=prepend
< 1392169748 196316 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :on=one
< 1392169785 806128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand what you mean.
< 1392169808 248797 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand what you mean, so it sounds fair
< 1392169848 99522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm two alphabet copies per  might be enough.
< 1392169879 956016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first gets passed to the prepended ... oh hm.
< 1392169881 560891 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is  supposed to do?
< 1392169926 407277 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392169934 420258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we need 3, this still needs to use ais523's misalignment trick.
< 1392170025 533982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's the simplest way to pass to arbitrary code _after_ you've copied the alphabet.
< 1392170140 598501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : will prepend a proto-header for the prepended tag, then delete to a spot inside the first alphabet copy; this spot then doubles a misaligned alphabet for the prepended tag to use, after which ... hm maybe 2 is enough anyway.
< 1392170202 64767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the part of the alphabet _after_ the cutoff will prepare the header for the next cycle of the active tag.
< 1392170345 388449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a slight headache, which isn't helping.
< 1392170420 887486 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392170505 447904 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :'will prepend a proto-header for the prepended tag' this doesn't seem very rigorously stated. i'll wait until your headache goes away :P
< 1392170628 55669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the proto-header's job would be to mangle the prepended tag into its final passive form on the next cycle.
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< 1392173547 553238 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem!
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< 1392175780 637512 :solis!~0@cpe-174-101-181-149.cinci.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392175788 671034 :solis!~0@cpe-174-101-181-149.cinci.res.rr.com PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
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< 1392176340 346028 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dice server is still up?
< 1392176341 183604 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O
< 1392176546 691332 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392176768 464179 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one
< 1392176834 716508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nomic.net, presumably
< 1392176932 459820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm glad the responses are PGP encrypted
< 1392176964 116137 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, signed
< 1392177304 318545 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392177323 669419 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392177539 320687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this has come up because the new agora speaker has made a policy to select judges randomly from the candidates)
< 1392177790 428769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SatoshiDice uses a random number generation procedure which is retrospectively verifiable
< 1392177930 720121 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have published a committment to a HMAC key for each of the next many days, using Bitcoin as a timestamping service
< 1392177962 21436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every day they reveal the previous day's key and you can verify that it matches the committment
< 1392178009 786814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the randomness for bets is generated by HMACing some public information about the bet
< 1392178049 695807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this might not work for games where some rolls need to remain secret for a long time
< 1392178231 850287 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Some consider it to be DDoS attack against the Bitcoin network since it is bypassing the built-in anti-DDoS features of Bitcoin (transaction fees)."
< 1392178398 853196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it circument fees
< 1392179016 363483 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :games? what kind of games we talkin here
< 1392179379 556086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most dangerous game
< 1392179405 142477 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?
< 1392179440 518916 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :transaction fees are considered an anti-DDOS mechanism?
< 1392179466 849674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that SD requires bets to have a fee, which makes them go through quickly, and could be considered an aggressive move of some kind, but doesn't seem at all like "bypassing" the mechanism
< 1392179489 969412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not so much "bypassing" as "using it exactly as intended"
< 1392179492 938972 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1392179502 623530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fine distinction
< 1392179506 733209 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :people were annoyed when it started taking up half the volume of transactions
< 1392179518 230650 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's about it
< 1392179962 116976 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see i'm just imaginign someone using this for D&D
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< 1392184274 256204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dis86 48c7042500004000efbead0b
< 1392184275 93005 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov qword [0x400000], 0xbadbeef;
< 1392184701 960510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i published the thing http://mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.com/2014/02/x86-is-turing-complete-with-no-registers.html
< 1392184764 699802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: ^ i said i would send you a link
< 1392184769 264646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably said that to other people but i forgot
< 1392185028 954675 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk
< 1392185751 889958 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Neat.
< 1392186079 420841 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow I suspect the branch predictor isn't that fond of this.
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< 1392188360 660067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1392188378 531087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux's perf can measure that...
< 1392188382 530748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have it working on this machine though
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< 1392190622 395266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh jeez https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/Security/Conceptual/cryptoservices/RandomNumberGenerationAPIs/RandomNumberGenerationAPIs.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40011172-CH12-SW1
< 1392190630 512468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i like how you link to esolangs.org for Turing-complete
< 1392190630 861890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spot the bug in this security critical code example
< 1392190634 858112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx shachaf 
< 1392190645 428371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a better discussion of the relevant issues for this sort of thing
< 1392190666 770776 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's what I concluded, yeah
< 1392190852 432639 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the bug
< 1392190989 897054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: gah, that's bad
< 1392191005 986997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't spot it for ages, but I was reading the code top to bottom, and it's in the last nontrivial line
< 1392191026 514446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1392191043 511131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no, I thought the shift was wrong, but now I'm not sure it is
< 1392191054 7184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes, it is
< 1392191061 963343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think (c << (8 * i)) gets promoted to int which actually makes the whole thing UB
< 1392191063 895826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the left operand to the shift's a uint8_t
< 1392191067 305961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the right hand side's a plain int
< 1392191068 453357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at the minimum, it won't get promoted above unsigned int
< 1392191078 151476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't guarantee that any shifts larger than 24 work correctly
< 1392191104 777691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs a cast to uint64_t on c
< 1392191124 753100 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: re that post you linked to, you say "Many RISC architectures also allow" indirect jump
< 1392191144 336793 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't think that's a risc thing, the 6502 also has an indirect jump instruction
< 1392191148 682654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is shifting a signed int by more than the number of bits UB?
< 1392191160 832512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: right, I didn't mean it's exclusively a RISC thing, just that it's not a particular x86 CISC weirdness
< 1392191221 570912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes, and shifting it by 31 would produce the wrong result
< 1392191229 888009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Shifting any int (signed or unsigned) by more than the number of bits is UB.
< 1392191236 316952 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I think that's a really strange instruction in 6502 because it loads has 2 bytes of address in the instruction then loads 2 bytes indirectly using that (though there's a bug when the indirect address lies on a page boundary), and that whole thing executes in just too few clock cycles to be possible on that cpu 
< 1392191246 950330 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: s/more than/more than or equal/
< 1392191254 705250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ouch
< 1392191302 635374 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it supposedly runs in 5 clock cycles, which is strange
< 1392191317 126089 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If the value of the right operand is negative or is greater than or equal to the width of the promoted left operand, the behavior is undefined." (C11 6.5.7p3)
< 1392191331 104783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks fizzie (what's a good link for C11?)
< 1392191342 344731 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't tell me you forked over the CHF for an official copy
< 1392191346 187057 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess it's possible
< 1392191351 44607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: weird
< 1392191357 397959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have heard about that bug, too
< 1392191358 83867 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1570.pdf is the latest draft.
< 1392191366 639890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: n1570.pdf is a draft from just before it was released
< 1392191381 471529 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not 100% accurate to C11, but it's pretty close
< 1392191385 599264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: There's also an unofficial HTML conversion at http://www.iso-9899.info/n1570.html
< 1392191408 6887 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes sense afterall, the stuff that takes lots of time in other instructions is adding an index register to a 16-bit absolute address which has to fit AFTER loading the address but BEFORE the actual operation executes
< 1392191413 213393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Can be useful on, say, some mobile device that doesn't cope well with a 701-page pdf.)
< 1392191441 81103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1392191478 206973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :web browser developers like to use "the web platform spec as a single page" as a stress test :)
< 1392191521 91822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I strongly suspect bitshifting unsigned ints doesn't have the usual "result is reduced modulo 2^width" rule because that'd complicate the implementation on those many, many systems that do something like "mask shift count to K bits".
< 1392191552 293431 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see
< 1392191558 721529 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, IIRC that's the normally given rationale for "out of range shifts are UB"
< 1392191577 726417 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the indexed 16-bit instructions take 1 cycle more when there's a carry in adding the index. that's clever
< 1392191586 527091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, out of range shifts in Verity just give 0 (or possibly produce invalid output), but that's because I only allow shifts by constants
< 1392191706 391448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The shift operators also differ from many other binary operators in that the type of the result is determined based on only the left operand, and the type of the right operand is ignored. ("The description of shift operators in K&R suggests that shifting by a long count should force the left operand to be widened to long before being shifted. A more intuitive practice, endorsed by the C89 ...
< 1392191712 399937 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Committee, is that the type of the shift count has no bearing on the type of the result." -- C99 rationale.)
< 1392191736 183740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The C11 rationale document seems to be still not done.
< 1392191747 54559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a rationale document separate from the spec?
< 1392191756 436820 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1392191773 624516 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm imagining this as like "C11: the unauthorized biography"
< 1392191777 521895 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yes, there are plans to update the existing Rationale to include C11. Since it's an informal document, there's no planned ETA, but it's on our to-do list." (from January 31, 2012.)
< 1392191777 616176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it's unofficial, it's the committee saying "here's why we did things the way we did"
< 1392191782 226640 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tales of wild after-hours cocaine parties on the ISO 9899 committee
< 1392191795 97033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fuck you, that's why"
< 1392191806 644438 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thought it was funny"
< 1392191808 986334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☠ UNDEFINED BEHAVIOR ☠
< 1392191809 388282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably for much the same reason that many websites have FAQs
< 1392191816 125419 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"after enough drugs it seemed like a good idea, that's why"
< 1392191837 941058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think in any good FAQ the first Q is just "Dear god why?"
< 1392191842 326145 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the editor didn't realize it was a joke"
< 1392191870 788710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of enough drugs, http://junkyardmessiah.tumblr.com/post/76403947862/chaoscontrolled123-luke-and-i-were-looking-at
< 1392191874 863865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, recently came across this, the committee response is somehow quite amusing: http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/dr_257.htm
< 1392191875 631231 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :600 year old butt-song from hell
< 1392191900 28129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DRs cost quite a bit of money to file
< 1392192013 660361 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do? I've always sort of assumed anyone can go and submit them.
< 1392192022 221247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on things like http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/dr_404.htm
< 1392192073 822278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: anyone can, but they have to pay a bunch of money to do so
< 1392192108 81949 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "decay" used in the standard for arrays decaying to pointers?
< 1392192125 102270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: haha
< 1392192198 891093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: No. it's an entirely unofficial term.
< 1392192209 244344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Common, though.
< 1392192229 458381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The only instance of the word "decay" in N1570 is that joke.)
< 1392192590 944860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I'd say the DR isn't a joke
< 1392192600 921411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a joke was left in the standard by mistake" is an actual bug report
< 1392192703 831350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to make it expensive otherwise people will submit DRs like "pls change all the syntax to Lisp", like Rust gets >_>
< 1392192845 848538 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're saying that C and Something Awful use the same strategy to deter trolls
< 1392192870 981580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is an actual bug report, sure, but the kind of thing I wouldn't expect a random individual to make, if they had to pay for the privilege.
< 1392192888 175953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose it could be just someone rich enough.)
< 1392192906 719531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hahaha
< 1392192951 315986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most DRs are filed by companies, I think, especially compiler manufacturers
< 1392192962 220838 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you can buy redtext for another committee member
< 1392193158 173452 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they paid for some number of DRs in a year and were running out of time to file them all
< 1392193177 293318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defect report procedures applying to JTC1/SC22/WG14 (the C standards workgroup) seem to be hard to Google for. (Some of the other JTC1 subcommittees have them more obviously in the web.)
< 1392193224 354162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if any OS X bitcoin apps used that example code to generate DSA signature nonces
< 1392193225 636141 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This [submitting a DR] is supposed to happen through your National Body (a Standard-defining Organization which is itself part of ISO, such as ANSI for the USA), which will formally submit it to JTC1/SC22 or its subsidiary WG14 ("the committee".) -- In less bureaucratic terms, yet quite a bit more efficiently, you can try contact with the convenor of WG14 (who is also allowed to formally ...
< 1392193231 682111 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... submit defect report.)"
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< 1392193574 785110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: remember that Debian OpenSSL issue?
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< 1392193631 550647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It's a terrible shame uint64_t isn't allowed to have any padding bits, otherwise the answer to that question would be "because fread might end up generating a trap representation".
< 1392193698 117830 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Apple support any architectures that have trap representations anyway?
< 1392193714 406893 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about "something something endianness" as another possible explanation
< 1392193735 847639 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not.
< 1392193753 112537 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know of any architectures that have integers with trap representations.
< 1392193823 725781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Whoops, have to go a lunch.)
< 1392193882 193893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fried fungot sandwich
< 1392193882 347642 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: or is it just me, or i: yet, you rogue! all about macros, a wonderful!' i am sorry, in particular candidate countries. if the transatlantic relationship, but the parliament has possessed him, yet he talkes well, it's open source
< 1392194054 480387 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what's your endian?
< 1392194054 633526 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so, let's say i call them mindless games. if we hit every stupid person, any person going, tough one. if we solve it,...)
< 1392194181 852439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION falls asleep
< 1392194250 240168 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[noobie-q] fungot is bot, right?
< 1392194250 431745 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :luserdroog: to " print" statement should always remember the songs on p2p apps in scheme, besides, was not beyond normal credibility
< 1392194293 558458 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does defender, haste do anything interesting?
< 1392194304 626323 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, lets you tap the creature when it comes out
< 1392194310 572812 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have need to
< 1392194317 275161 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much pressure! what do i do?
< 1392194329 879954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: there's a card in Future Sight with defender, haste, and a tap ability
< 1392194336 880479 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember the songs on p2p apps in steam, duh
< 1392194337 780149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :luserdroog: are you a bot? fungot is
< 1392194337 933632 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov
< 1392194341 265837 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wwas looking at that
< 1392194363 170384 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should look at Future Sight more closely, it seems almost like an UN-set
< 1392194366 765580 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understood "markov" :)
< 1392194392 223049 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mischievous little dwarf!
< 1392194414 673702 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fungot
< 1392194414 827146 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fungot (What I've said myself)
< 1392194441 171770 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome luserdroog 
< 1392194442 54234 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13luserdroog: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.)
< 1392194473 841473 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooo colors!
< 1392194483 949677 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://unemployedprofessors.com/Index.aspx lol
< 1392194491 826160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I think the Magic playerbase is split between the people who think Future Sight was the most awesome set ever, and people who don't like it
< 1392194496 390913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite polarizing
< 1392194498 74754 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my language is going nowhere.
< 1392194531 346715 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never got into magic.
< 1392194541 244112 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my cousins did pokemon
< 1392194561 695954 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although yugioh was a far superior cartoon
< 1392194578 408567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dislike Magic nowadays
< 1392194584 456572 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O
< 1392194593 480848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, I like reading about it, but don't feel much pressure to actually play it, or buy any cards
< 1392194626 723899 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: where did i go wrong
< 1392194626 877224 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i just wrote :p ( what was i thinking
< 1392194636 72593 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what i was thinking :(
< 1392194662 920448 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was Zork at first
< 1392194709 547135 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm "Legend of Zork" would be a fun title.
< 1392194740 214876 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the game-within-a-game you could play zork on virtual telex
< 1392194800 717777 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :been reading too many programming books, have to make everything recursive!
< 1392194827 724851 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ... shudder ... "inductive"
< 1392194899 917918 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :inceptive
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< 1392196230 107194 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. There was a group of about 30-50 people, with banners and such, out there on the street; they were playing (loudly) the song "They're Taking the Hobbits to Isengard" out of some kind of portable stereo.
< 1392196307 972377 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a pretty amenable group
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< 1392200287 703177 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Isengard was in Sweden
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< 1392200981 99774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They could well be taking the hobbits to Sweden.
< 1392200993 330089 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :a chilling thought
< 1392201348 542214 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Isengard (SE) - Epic Melodic Power Metal from Vikingstad, Sweden."
< 1392201429 967544 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Vikingstad anywhere near Gondor
< 1392201656 213923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to be right next to Linköping. Wasn't olsner from there? 
< 1392201693 37770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We could not understand the location gondor, sweden. Suggestions: Make sure all street and city names are spelled correctly."
< 1392201896 298187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a Gondorf near Bitburg, Germany, though.
< 1392201997 775601 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Named after Ganondorf, I'm sure.)
< 1392202242 191602 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Vikingstad,+Sweden&daddr=Mordor,+Alkmaar,+Netherlands
< 1392202282 823082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One does not simply drive and so on.
< 1392202301 532502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This route has tolls." Oh, I'm sure it does.
< 1392202428 934322 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“This route crosses through multiple countries.”
< 1392202505 529161 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This route has giant spiders guarding Cirith Ungol."
< 1392202586 861669 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, that wasn't there. But to be fair, they do say "Walking directions are in beta. Use caution – This route may be missing sidewalks, giant spiders or pedestrian paths.")
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< 1392216136 104157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  i think in any good FAQ the first Q is just "Dear god why?"
< 1392216137 512201 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1169)  i think in any good FAQ the first Q is just "Dear god why?"
< 1392216317 590150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help
< 1392216317 743809 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
< 1392216338 947199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the FAQ about HackEgo's recent move.
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< 1392218800 516 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION idly wonders what "ski-ball" might be
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< 1392227933 975043 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that mordor trip would only take 220 hours walking continuously! you could do it in a month or so!
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< 1392227992 380126 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia : You have my axe!
< 1392228022 443229 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this tiny font with no glasses i read that as sex
< 1392228039 810210 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to guess male
< 1392228072 416594 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are thinking of a different book.
< 1392228078 769513 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lord of the Cockring, possibly
< 1392228091 738397 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cock of the Ring
< 1392228118 96286 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :snowmageddon part2 seems to be less of a disaster than the first so far. people can learn!
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< 1392230964 970585 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm not from here, I just happen to live here :)
< 1392230975 220291 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :vikingstad is in the middle of nowhere
< 1392231137 977905 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you're sort of emanating from there at the moment, anyway.
< 1392231171 738735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, we'll probably stop for a night in Linköping somewhere in June.
< 1392231184 464076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... what's there to see/do there? 
< 1392231229 496160 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, I don't really see or do stuff too much
< 1392231265 848012 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just check Wikipedia, then.
< 1392231314 654879 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Linköping offers a wealth of leisure activities to people of all ages. Residents and visitors are able to enjoy art, theatre, history, concerts, markets, festivals and sporting events."
< 1392231321 154517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This article is written like a travel guide rather than an encyclopedic description of the subject. Please help improve it by rewriting it in an encyclopedic style."
< 1392231324 128953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't say.
< 1392231357 526254 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an aviation museum somewhere outside of linköping, some people have found that interesting
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< 1392231700 802944 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you're one of those places with a river.
< 1392231706 877171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've spoken on the topic before.)
< 1392231739 984867 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. (why would you speak about my river?)
< 1392231753 606472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not your river, just cities with rivers and my river-envy.
< 1392231768 848972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's no river to speak of here.)
< 1392231786 342649 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why river-envy?
< 1392231793 266765 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's your kind of thing you can go on boat rides on the river, through locks and stuff
< 1392231796 409399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, there's just something about rivers.
< 1392231811 42369 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's something about river tam
< 1392231912 525929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the One Cockring also give you a permanent erection
< 1392231923 150480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a permanent evil erection?
< 1392232078 330712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Link%C3%B6ping
< 1392232169 13879 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost every great city has a river or is adjacent to a large body of water
< 1392232269 223956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a fungot
< 1392232269 572783 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that is just a value of type is created containing the syntax for mark if he was really gonna get worse and worse each week, i fnord kara to hold me until i fell over....
< 1392232372 449385 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there's also a lake nearby (10km ish)
< 1392232398 133824 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@cust-208-22.on5.ontelecoms.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1392232873 614238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Maps has, for some strange reason, Vättern marked as "vattern" (with a lowercase first letter), with "Vättern" under it in smaller type.
< 1392232879 545768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vänern is just "Vänern".
< 1392232887 857277 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something must be up with that.
< 1392232946 429219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"IT-ceum. Is a computer and computing museum, located in Mjärdevi Science Park where you will find many of Linköping's IT companies. The museum covers both ancient Swedish computers and more current events, such as the demo scene with its realtime multimedia productions. The exhibitions describe both the technical and the social aspects of computing. The museum's signs are both in Swedish ...
< 1392232952 442615 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and in English. Free entry."
< 1392232954 990821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh.
< 1392233286 299522 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to have moved since that wiki page was written
< 1392234238 895097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"However, instead of putting the language [to block Tesla from operating stores in Ohio] on the Senate floor as a standalone bill, the ban was inserted as an amendment to Senate Bill 137--an unrelated bill that required Ohio drivers to move to the left while passing roadside maintenance vehicles."
< 1392234245 765226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's always so sneaky.
< 1392234274 691753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I remember something very similar from the European Parliament.
< 1392234378 236310 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good queue-based language for me to try? And please don't say fueue
< 1392234385 626092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, demoscene stuff in a museum?
< 1392234393 762168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a big deal in sweden as well as finland?
< 1392234438 221267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Qdeql? 
< 1392234501 369405 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, still quite small I'd say, but big for being demoscene I guess
< 1392234508 206926 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Something less tarpitty? Although I suppose I should give Qdeql a try anyway
< 1392234528 874413 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Sceql
< 1392234555 704665 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, nah
< 1392234602 927109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just start going through Category:Queue-based in asciibetical order.
< 1392234714 11398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines glorious winters in a snow-covered cabin, spending the sunless days drinking akvavit, frying reindeer sausage over a wood fire, writing MBR demos, and fucking on a big bearskin rug
< 1392234730 664125 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392234869 565582 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine if the alphabet was named after english letters instead
< 1392234871 597881 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be the aybee
< 1392234916 842096 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/8d/59/c4/8d59c48bb992eb030dd6e5766206d18c.jpg was included in the monthly departmental email.
< 1392234956 710878 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: (Though in all honestly winters here in Southern Finland can be pretty "meh"; like the one we're currently having.)
< 1392234963 671719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1392235129 300483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this week in San Francisco: 16°C and partly cloudy
< 1392235137 602713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're having our worst-ever drought though
< 1392235142 381411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :got a little rain last week but not nearly enough
< 1392235157 290935 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1392235260 614587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's already a "Hack the Drought" hackathon scheduled
< 1392235266 97087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that doesn't solve the problem then I don't know what will
< 1392235310 659301 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :droughts can only be remedied by harnessing the power of node.js + mongodb
< 1392235312 291804 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This week in Espoo: days around 1-2 °C, nights around -1°C to zero. Lots of fog and slush.
< 1392235562 749015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had this thought I'd take a photo of the university main building every morning, then align them and... well, do some sort of a composite. Maybe just average or use some other aggregate function, or reorder them with a 1D SOM or something and animate. Whatever.
< 1392235608 332166 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a representative single frame: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140212-tkk.jpg
< 1392235643 732190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`^_^v understands
< 1392235644 488034 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/^_^v: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/^_^v: cannot execute: Permission denied
< 1392235891 589204 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392236161 227543 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392236393 651167 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3
< 1392237588 706762 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392237590 438524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hroughcoin datecoin orretuatecoin regopsitzcoin stacoin neurcoin mespuncoin bfercoin anicerynxcoin mecorcoin mourcoin testfribacoin fingpensivecoin gramblincoin parcoin aniscoin cowcoin finicoin anemationcoin twormulacoin
< 1392237654 317334 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Over here all the snow has melted over the past week; now there's not even any slush left
< 1392237680 289920 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :By this rate we'll have spring in time for the sports break when you typically go north to ski
< 1392237687 577571 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/By/At/
< 1392237759 966975 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/coins
< 1392237760 589011 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --eng-1M --esolangs 20 | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g'
< 1392237882 638772 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/20/\${1-&}/' bin/coins; coins
< 1392237885 716348 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :billecoin eemcoin mancoin fmcoin lobolcoin lockcoin toncoin eturacoin kippingcoin admirilcoin m-codycoin vetcoin bombincoin machelpcoin threkellcoin miniction2coin lewaycoin conveycoin laancoin udacidcoin
< 1392237891 782806 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins 5
< 1392237893 63607 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :feiffcoin fcrewcoin denteriftycoin epidcoin tgtecoin
< 1392237920 88564 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --finnish
< 1392237921 936841 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mäßcoin
< 1392237951 545565 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure finnish does not use 'ß'
< 1392237971 529707 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Perhaps --esolangs does.
< 1392237977 516497 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --swedish 10
< 1392237979 269445 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dadecoin nuttcoin geninicoin itetunacoin autopingcoin delacoin ddgeecoin norftendocoin amulacoin spazioncoin
< 1392238508 668079 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the hell came up with 1 *and a half* stop bit?
< 1392238523 901238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buh?
< 1392238537 439948 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 was too little, 2 was too much? 
< 1392238605 165538 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :vt100 defaults to 1.5 stop bits and can't be changed, MESS' verious serial emulation stuff doesn't seem to have code for talking to that
< 1392238609 322944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :When the CCITT… was standardizing ATM, parties from the United States wanted a 64-byte payload…; parties from Europe wanted 32-byte payloads. Most of the European parties eventually came around to the arguments made by the Americans, but France and a few others held out… 48 bytes (plus 5 header bytes = 53) was chosen as a compromise between the two sides."
< 1392238622 363646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/^/"/
< 1392238629 863213 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D
< 1392238749 917289 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've wondered where the 53 octet frame size comes from.
< 1392238839 540082 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but note that MESS emulates 1.5 stop bits well enough that the simulated null modem sending 1 stop bit *doesn't* work)
< 1392239230 566903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392239569 833168 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392240938 529406 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://terrycavanaghgames.com/maverickbird/
< 1392241097 295201 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1392241179 574538 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392241327 110246 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup
< 1392242140 265228 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392242221 951138 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: owie. I reached 10, time to give up :)
< 1392242227 864904 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1392242233 712593 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got fed up at 6
< 1392242293 182442 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so at 10 you get a orange circle described as a "bronze medal"
< 1392242341 80040 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: ResPlicate!!! :D
< 1392242366 665321 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :more tarpitty is better
< 1392242394 65139 :utkarsh!utkarsh@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:75b8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1392242404 286258 :trn!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392242423 140744 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1392242530 861245 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392242767 283838 :utkarsh!utkarsh@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:75b8 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392242889 683690 :trn!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392243237 428814 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you command GCC to output all preprocessor macros?
< 1392243357 990259 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a flappy bird clone is it
< 1392243365 765154 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst game
< 1392243368 736739 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: As in, a list of them?
< 1392243375 40954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Yes
< 1392243378 665263 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea
< 1392243540 434379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run gcc -dM -E - < /dev/null
< 1392243541 361364 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define __DBL_MIN_EXP__ (-1021) \ #define __UINT_LEAST16_MAX__ 65535 \ #define __ATOMIC_ACQUIRE 2 \ #define __FLT_MIN__ 1.17549435082228750797e-38F \ #define __UINT_LEAST8_TYPE__ unsigned char \ #define __INTMAX_C(c) c ## L \ #define __CHAR_BIT__ 8 \ #define __UINT8_MAX__ 255 \ #define __WINT_MAX__ 4294967295U \ #define __ORDER_LITTLE_ENDIAN__ 1
< 1392243991 84481 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's better than flappy bird. but still just as ridiculously hard. best i can get is 10
< 1392244259 675003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :flappy gcc
< 1392244269 649819 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :up down up up down
< 1392244292 841704 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there must be a brainfuck clone in this, somewhere.
< 1392244311 405451 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a brainfuck clone in everything
< 1392244320 183803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how the light gets in
< 1392244386 864967 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :challenge: invent a flappy bird level such that the only way to win is input a sequence corresponding to a particular flappy-bf program at one second intervals
< 1392244459 245648 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/YRgK ... done :)
< 1392244489 588579 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flappyfuck.
< 1392244642 927247 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that sounds sort of interesting.
< 1392244741 457841 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to me
< 1392244743 529694 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun
< 1392244842 933858 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether it would be fun.
< 1392244891 77231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of funny that it needs to be "- < /dev/null" (or "-x c /dev/null") instead of just "/dev/null".
< 1392245002 175233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392245254 626554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: that mordor trip would only take 220 hours walking continuously! you could do it in a month or so! <-- one does not simply walk into mordor hth
< 1392245305 74953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kinda-sorta alluded to that already.
< 1392245322 13495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Earlier in the logs, I guess.)
< 1392245438 926931 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://www.galactanet.com/comic/view.php?strip=363
< 1392245498 933150 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: heh
< 1392245907 605404 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :less than 2 minutes till tomorrow, good night.
< 1392246105 15849 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :23 hours till tomorrow
< 1392246304 896183 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Perhaps you should fly into, or teleport into, so that they don't expect you.
< 1392246405 203839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: see int-e's link
< 1392246475 75400 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, the other one.
< 1392246494 744460 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I don't want to load any web browser right now, but maybe later
< 1392246638 772686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi zzo38 
< 1392247748 968120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/^_^v
< 1392247749 521674 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/sh \ echo No comment.
< 1392247771 285072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/^_^v
< 1392247772 783124 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1392247800 162916 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392247802 144547 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rnarycoin 224coin aaicoin snaccoin tifcoin glucoin arambcoin disoroscoin lesunneccoin oftcoin perfcoin prolamicroncoin scolacoin meroscoin thcoin tipsoncoin stalkacoin ximalcoin wikicoin boulacoin
< 1392247850 900531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :glucoin has few users, but they tend to stick together.
< 1392247899 101628 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also tend to have hyperglycemia.
< 1392247935 523049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to mine stalkacoins, they will find you.
< 1392247997 554810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikicoin _seems_ like a good idea, until you realize anyone can edit your balance.
< 1392248047 294107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oftcoin is surprisingly rare.
< 1392248077 505019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :snaccoin is interconvertible with chocolate.
< 1392248149 175645 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ximalcoin really ximizes the usefulness of cryptocoin.
< 1392249791 587263 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392249818 889463 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tipsoncoin exists for the sole purpose of backing that bot they have on reddit that tips people
< 1392249928 788522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought reddit had such bots for several coins.
< 1392250133 841933 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1392250178 555420 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392250180 5994 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :telectcoin faerecoin revatiocoin cottocoin scabillwcoin braicoin mdpncoin concoin mazuringbraycoin jamachcoin univalcoin procoin udacoin chromeastavcoin imelbercoin huntcoin sublecoin cractcoin spacoin numpcoin
< 1392250297 710142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --finnish 20 | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g'
< 1392250299 185303 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :viivisintyväitettäcoin eroksiltanicoin torittämäämissäcoin lapistavanicoin lansacoin muodattammecoin merkittavisicoin elä-konejacoin yksityitäköcoin kuksesittaanistänsäcoin hierastansacoin puneittävällisicoin suoduktuurtaammecoin salailemälläcoin sumeerapiannetteliaisemmicoin kuuntiavaapuncoin kiriipimäksesimmaksencoin komaavienneco
< 1392250375 172232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :faerecoin turn into flowers while you're not watching.
< 1392250419 952200 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --finnish --swedish 20
< 1392250420 892040 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tres fistenän boliittas bilda kityret makselkrökig sataltamerkan foriljd ahkeassa signatsområngar sänittavademporter vastunernaaviljonklips turematko köyheterinteill akusarjallemisk aliserades muodosel fattningarskymit jouristelitektaan havillkaduettensa
< 1392250464 666324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :en makselkrökig lista
< 1392250507 929140 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com
< 1392250508 211645 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --swedish --norwegian 10
< 1392250509 135438 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isontorganda vangern ingsform bil innesångighet sochic trans pleif pandlådring volumener
< 1392250521 869221 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392250537 475882 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --norwegian 10
< 1392250538 360511 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :regenesteverste apetsstyrkede dukturkinnhets formasingsveiutgav gysnittak toffshowets fisér systandslag reglengen imønstets
< 1392250586 651390 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly : you're south of me ?
< 1392250590 833092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :formasingsveiutgav is the new form you have to fill out for your car
< 1392250648 511678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's due to EU directive 56012345
< 1392250649 356507 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: that depends on your location..
< 1392250651 4344 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks "foriljd" sounds nice
< 1392250660 599660 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is slightly south of Stockholm
< 1392250661 772980 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"elä-konejacoin" -- "live-machineandkoin".
< 1392250671 157669 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :foriljd my $foo (@bar) { }
< 1392250716 204278 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. I see
< 1392250774 780441 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: pardon the highlight
< 1392250783 795170 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that happens somewhat frequently with a nick like that?
< 1392250793 611455 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :np
< 1392250802 443168 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :now and then
< 1392250885 397711 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If one has a common words as a nick nobody needs to apologize for using that word.
< 1392250901 529644 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone can feel free to talk about ions and i have no right to have a problem with that. :-P
< 1392251049 946824 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fark.com/comments/8140451/The-New-Zealand-Government-cannot-confirm-that-their-Prime-Minister-isnt-a-shapeshifting-reptilian-alien-ushering-humanity-towards-enslavement-Link-goes-to-official-document
< 1392251133 86690 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392251153 637123 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good not-quite morning!
< 1392251165 574935 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud
< 1392251165 647162 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie asked 1d 10h 18m 59s ago: Why does metasepia leave when you do?
< 1392251184 991512 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages
< 1392251185 102811 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
< 1392251188 895131 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why -loud?
< 1392251190 401301 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it was running from my machine. a machine I ran DBAN on.
< 1392251197 42869 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't the default loud in public channel?
< 1392251202 707558 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't know why. it seems traditional.
< 1392251212 440718 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but rest assured! I made backups.
< 1392251219 199553 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: nice
< 1392251225 431221 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESSA
< 1392251236 44340 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1392251237 605378 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: uhm. let me start it...
< 1392251249 917022 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it should run from here, probably.)
< 1392251418 567835 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392251423 59607 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESSA
< 1392251423 743630 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSA 130020Z 16006KT 6000 BR FEW004 M01/M01 Q1001 R01L/29//68 R08/29//64 R01R/29//59 TEMPO 4000 BKN004
< 1392251433 663501 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S ALIIIIIVE! ♪
< 1392251439 389735 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL
< 1392251440 9901 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 130000Z 10007KT 15SM SCT240 M11/M19 A3031 RMK CI4 SLP269
< 1392251467 506354 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: quinthellopia.
< 1392251510 946154 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's new?
< 1392251541 423268 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new job!
< 1392251546 913692 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yaaaaaay
< 1392251582 270531 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, codu.org is throwing me 500 Server Errors. were there any new quotes and/or wisdoms during my absence?)
< 1392251629 508235 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's a nice place :D
< 1392251636 754993 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, where at?
< 1392251670 49231 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://www.dental-wings.com/
< 1392251700 876679 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O
< 1392251742 964834 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie *poke poke poke*
< 1392251743 37202 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1392251796 815648 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: there's a nice coffee machine that makes espressi, we play mttg during lunch...
< 1392251814 74769 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's a lack of Vietnamese restaurants around the place, but I'm coping.)
< 1392251841 711598 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily
< 1392251842 688763 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist.
< 1392252002 985066 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392252042 696441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: we are still waiting for Gregor to fix the repository browser.
< 1392252065 207373 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellœrjan.
< 1392252084 328573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :until then, we must rely on memory, which is lousy.  although i did add a kmc quote today.
< 1392252098 845598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote kmc | tail
< 1392252099 971317 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1114)  what did fungot say?   kmc: my implementation isn't supposed to sound rude. \ 1115)  BBC: Exercise 'can be as good as pills'   oh, they mean for your health \ 1125)  Sgeo: oh yeah those animated characters were built into the operating system and there was an API for them \ 1129)  kmc, I was trying to go to
< 1392252103 476200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote kmc | tail -n 1
< 1392252104 372688 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1169)  i think in any good FAQ the first Q is just "Dear god why?"
< 1392252125 791816 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good quote. let's try adding it...
< 1392252133 836425 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and having make fail...)
< 1392252181 785887 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because yes, there is a Makefile to compile that PDF. that's y'all your fault.
< 1392252317 536389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cackles maniäckally
< 1392252351 141664 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dusts his mapole, does a few practice swings...
< 1392252352 976015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run allquotes | tail | tac
< 1392252353 617580 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1169)  i think in any good FAQ the first Q is just "Dear god why?" \ 1168)  kmc: any chance one can have a box full of tnt to throw around \ 1167)  `quote 1146   1146)  OKAY \ 1166)  boily: i'm robert fnord. here take a piece of freenode furniture \ 1165)  15:21 .. 15:41   I've got to st
< 1392252379 775137 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. so, probably from 1166 up until the most recent.
< 1392252408 305934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether there have been any inner edits i don't recall.
< 1392252409 510091 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, I'm updating my \LaTeX{} install. “pdflatex: error while loading shared libraries: libpoppler.so.27: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory”
< 1392252421 996402 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: too complex for me at this time of day.
< 1392252463 289262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm...
< 1392252592 222353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :♫ put a poppler in your mouth when you eat at fishy joe's / what they're made from is a mystery, where they come from no-one knows ♫
< 1392252710 944403 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392252923 58562 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IEUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHL FUNGOTTING STUPID *INCOHERENT FRENCH MUMBLING*!
< 1392253085 586721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mômble mômble
< 1392253209 787660 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maudite installation mal foutue de veut pas upgrader non mais ça se peut tu faire des affaires tout croche de même.
< 1392253378 556412 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(strangely, google translate is pretty accurate on that one.)
< 1392253393 223625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aux quailles
< 1392253464 848519 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aïl âme se t'il dont ne l'eau dingue.
< 1392254066 72658 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily!
< 1392254072 843782 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you aren't usually online at this hour...
< 1392254109 958802 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations on those dufour-lapointe sisters and all. also, everyone else. must be quite exciting up there.
< 1392254231 756138 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll be onlining with a different schedule from now on.
< 1392254263 641858 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go us! we are teh bestest!
< 1392254368 883274 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.171-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg
< 1392254471 762201 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit
< 1392254647 979585 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1392254672 594932 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392254686 458906 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Client Quit
< 1392254806 526141 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: why does it seem like all the best canadian olympians are quebecois?
< 1392254827 308995 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh i forgot: happy darwin day!
< 1392254902 938346 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Quebec have a winter with unique properties that would aid them in the winter Olympics?
< 1392254927 377359 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and the whole schedule change thing: you may not talk to me much before 9:30pm
< 1392254988 518322 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I think pikhq has a point there.
< 1392254999 711337 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I go to bed at 21h30!
< 1392255033 830160 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: on weekdays, i work from 15:00 to 21:00
< 1392255041 119882 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is this GOODBYE FOREVER
< 1392255071 873025 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
< 1392255116 439005 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall inject myself with sweet #esoteric fluid on the weekends too.
< 1392256197 217614 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds gross
< 1392256197 326481 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you should do it at work
< 1392256245 121410 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have an #esöteric addiction. I can quit any time I want!
< 1392256270 972970 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like outdoors boily
< 1392256477 374547 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :outdoors are nice.
< 1392256487 577725 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay wanna go hiking
< 1392256514 606721 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been a while.
< 1392256538 848326 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT WHERE THE HELL DO I FIND SUMMER INTERNSHIPS
< 1392256568 402515 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just aska professor or talk at a bulletin board
< 1392256570 403046 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I never did prove lens turing complete
< 1392256572 171943 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: first you have to find a summer.
< 1392256579 695071 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I've got a summer planned
< 1392256616 579987 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392256638 158653 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could head over to the CS building a bit earlier than I have to and scour for bulletin boards
< 1392256673 941819 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :LUGECOIN: a coin that gets built up for half a year, then takes just under a minute to flat-bottom again
< 1392256677 873300 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't know which professor to ask, my supervisor is in the maths department (I'm on a joint course)
< 1392256713 285838 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: is that a bad pun on “sled”? (en:sled → fr:luge)
< 1392256735 894526 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392256783 421419 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a luge is also a kind of sled in english
< 1392256788 253822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: we have id, (.) and const, i think if we could find fix and the s combinator, that's enough...
< 1392256803 725244 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm
< 1392256823 301705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fix only needed because the usual y combinator in ski won't type in haskell)
< 1392256826 584752 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type perform (acts.acts)
< 1392256827 662480 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => m (m b) -> m b
< 1392256834 218912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh
< 1392256838 242249 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the W combinator
< 1392256847 678285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was looking for that
< 1392256856 258502 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh.
< 1392256861 440696 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used that in my fibonacci program
< 1392256890 389948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i didn't remember how the action stuff worked.
< 1392256892 905793 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for me to go inhale a chapter...
< 1392256899 196616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i tried to do something with tuples.
< 1392256902 363183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392256903 992497 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rincoin hargcoin repuswamcoin chlorcoin tenevcoin noracoin checoin xbloucoin adhoocoin hidatedcoin .coin spectioncoin choolfschorumble-2dcoin conticoin chocoin xbfcoin plorcoin margegatediumbrainiolangcoin sedinalcoin loncoin
< 1392256909 891047 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: wut?
< 1392256927 127215 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: The banana is a nocturnal fruit.
< 1392256930 144560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well pretty sure W (or join) _should_ allow you to build S
< 1392256934 5776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the rest
< 1392256938 622549 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392256940 287870 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foocoin divilladcoin fortunacoin hoccucoin affe7s8coin itilchicoin recurncoin objecoin playcoin crticoin bytendstufcoin malcoin restoclamcoin inccoin sorcoin underlcoin muxcrethratcoin bnecoin bincoin stachiahcoin
< 1392256947 229289 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BCKW is turing complete
< 1392256950 348411 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type flipped
< 1392256951 384873 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Functor f, Profunctor p) => p (b -> a -> c) (f (b' -> a' -> c')) -> p (a -> b -> c) (f (a' -> b' -> c'))
< 1392256954 522780 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type view flipped
< 1392256955 497037 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :MonadReader (a -> b -> c) m => m (b -> a -> c)
< 1392256970 299292 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392256978 146390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t aside
< 1392256978 973979 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Applicative f, Choice p) => APrism s t a b -> p (e, a) (f (e, b)) -> p (e, s) (f (e, t))
< 1392256990 570355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what's the dual of that
< 1392256994 262502 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type (.) ((.) ((.) join) flip) ((.) (.))
< 1392256995 243166 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> b -> c) -> (a -> b) -> a -> c
< 1392257019 853252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1392257024 530113 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not too hard to lensify that, there's S for you
< 1392257040 342283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, then you just need fix, i think
< 1392257055 260522 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix is the tricky one :(
< 1392257075 106426 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :May be able to fake it with iterated?
< 1392257132 751215 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type iterated
< 1392257133 646277 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Applicative f, Contravariant f) => (a -> a) -> (a -> f a) -> a -> f a
< 1392257150 407511 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 ^.. iterated (+1)
< 1392257152 112201 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,...
< 1392257162 334442 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the only way I know to get any recursion
< 1392257165 195298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really
< 1392257183 520418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although maybe in the way curry or church managed to fake things without k...
< 1392257256 200087 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> lastOf (iterated (const 7)) 1
< 1392257265 448599 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
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< 1392257352 279149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iterated will only give you terminating stuff, i think
< 1392257371 663960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like primitive recursion but with higher-order functions, like coq has
< 1392257376 630051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iirc)
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< 1392262179 374145 :cameron.freenode.net NOTICE #esoteric :*** Notice -- TS for #esoteric changed from 1392258355 to 1164523370
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< 1392262179 574295 :cameron.freenode.net MODE #esoteric +q :clog!~nef@bespin.org
< 1392262179 595143 :cameron.freenode.net TOPIC #esoteric :fungots fall on fungot falls | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/
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< 1392262187 527431 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was only designed for the sake of having a very small implementation.
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< 1392262229 706489 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But otherwise, well, it's effectively just a slightly funny subset of most languages in common use.
< 1392262277 133673 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure isn't an INTERCAL.
< 1392263062 759515 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beep boop
< 1392263196 333531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody has slid a "yBITCOIN: Introducing The Future Of Money" magazine-advert-brochure-something under my bedroom door
< 1392263205 629057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392263207 93876 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :greecoin dujourcoin beneticoin aaviacoin patocoin golcoin beauxcoin acronycoin gasoilcoin golfuckcoin justycoin estre-calcoin scecoin prectcoin pbleasircoin britscoin smurfarmacoin llllcoin karlicoin wakcoin
< 1392263244 312643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are some p. good coins
< 1392263258 941101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :smurfarmacoin, for those who farm smurfs
< 1392263852 469055 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/coins
< 1392263852 941132 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --eng-1M --esolangs ${1-20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g'
< 1392264056 655319 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bit/coins
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< 1392264245 166430 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i think i'm on the verge of finding a pattern that copies itself x times despite having m<=2 for every command? but not tonight...
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< 1392264329 650353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well you need more than one cycle for it.
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< 1392264336 494784 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or perhaps i've already done it
< 1392264340 89650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(large cycle)
< 1392264474 733696 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it occurs to me it's impossible. if a command can copy itself twice, then there will be two of them. so after, say, four cycles (two two-cycle passes) there must be four of them. better to have a pattern that duplicates a self-preserving pattern
< 1392264486 707853 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think i have that in the latest template as well
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< 1392265448 514155 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: okay i have done :P
< 1392265478 223677 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a program that counts up from 0 in unary using only m<=2 (except to print)
< 1392265496 692002 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact it uses only m=2
< 1392265602 477894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1392265650 716822 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sceql manages to be TC despite a queue that never shrinks. maybe we don't even need m=0! :P
< 1392265664 697477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear
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< 1392266582 512916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How common do IRC clients do syntax highlighting? Due to several features it lack to just connect using a raw connection with telnet, including auto-pong, auto-response, masking the password, and syntax highlighting, that is why I made up the one that add such feature, but, how common is it anyways?
< 1392266592 387269 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw other one which doesn't seem to do.
< 1392266630 417147 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you don't have a color monitor, or perhaps don't have a color printing, why do you want a IRC client with no syntax hightlightngitng.
< 1392266690 615903 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I have used handful clients and none of them had that feature.
< 1392266748 258468 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392266749 905080 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obducappedcoin jewaltkcoin blaimcoin bralcoin goydecoin chacoin wethcoin selemcoin tameicoin oischecoin curbazandcoin braincoin veliumcoin betacoin nummericoin halecoin parcoin sertcoin llacoin rentrojeccoin
< 1392266758 143203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't expect it to, but, it is one of the things that is useful to me. I don't know which, if any, features are being shared by other IRC clients.
< 1392266758 649832 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :braincoin
< 1392266826 768902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax highlighting for what? source code? or the IRC protocol itself?
< 1392266837 748775 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: For the IRC protocol.
< 1392266857 973292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most clients don't show the raw IRC protocol messages at all
< 1392266920 238569 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1392266922 911233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi has color highlighting, with theme files
< 1392266952 640174 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so it does have such thing, then.
< 1392266978 464439 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392267031 340200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use a mostly black-on-white (but with some things light red or blue) theme called "clean".
< 1392267063 312572 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What things is red and blue?
< 1392267080 299216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and the window borders are brighter colors
< 1392267123 788383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't it just use the operating system's window borders though?
< 1392267135 355826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the time of messages is in blue, and in augur's join/quit messages there are some red symbols and his nick is blue.
< 1392267153 331130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the borders for the whole window, but the borders for irssi subwindows
< 1392267158 104802 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK
< 1392267198 784601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i chose this theme because _most_ text is black on white so i don't feel distracted by too much colors.
< 1392267201 482982 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That (second part) makes sense. But, do you mean augur's messages, is only his nick blue, not the other one?
< 1392267202 926370 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::x
< 1392267216 453059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the other ones in black?
< 1392267250 259859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not specific to augur, it's just that his were the only quit/join messages in this window right now
< 1392267286 785492 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so, it color depending on what kind of message it is?
< 1392267290 246206 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: actually, another sensible use of colors in IRC is a hash-based nick coloring.
< 1392267290 675120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lines that mention my nick sometimes get some brighter red color.
< 1392267306 54552 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it is less applicable for terminals.
< 1392267314 571755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: yeah i think my original theme had that, which drove me crazy :P
< 1392267326 775115 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in irssi? :p
< 1392267342 937125 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used hash-based coloring for making pie charts, but doesn't seem so useful for IRC.
< 1392267354 20746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly it was something else.  dark background perhaps.
< 1392267367 109741 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it is very useful to discern two nicks with shared prefixes.
< 1392267367 911079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: obviously some people like it.
< 1392267380 440168 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no point to use that otherwise though.
< 1392267385 135383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes if you like it then that's good if implementations exist.
< 1392267526 724095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example in the line above where lifthrasiir says "oerjan:", his nick is bright red.
< 1392267565 27125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my own messages have a red ">" which is black for others.  things like that.
< 1392267606 518606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the theme files allow you to configure much more than the colors, though.
< 1392267609 296277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a black on green ">" for my own messages; other message don't have ">"
< 1392267630 231305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like do you mean, to configure the size of the window and so on?
< 1392267635 787990 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And macros and filters?
< 1392267642 885570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although i didn't edit it myself, afair)
< 1392267702 895112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will it mask the password? I seem to remember, some people have said, the program they are using doesn't mask the password.
< 1392267719 616704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i think macros (well, aliases) and filters go in the config file, the theme file is for style issues.
< 1392267729 792003 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some clients do mask the password when it is sent to known nicks, e.g. NickServ.
< 1392267751 499031 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is mostly limited since IRC clients generally don't know what is a password and what's not.
< 1392267759 294064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i have put the password in the config file so i don't need to type it.
< 1392267775 3377 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My client masks the password if the command starts with "PASS " or "/PASS " (it doesn't have a /PASS command, but it can be defined using macros if you need it)
< 1392267810 142574 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate snow
< 1392267817 637906 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the same principle applies, since you'll see the message automatically sent to NickServ anyway.
< 1392267838 871263 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392267877 383179 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you type "NickServ" it won't mask the password though)
< 1392267917 407248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: i don't see that message anywhere. i've set the freenode network configuration to use a server password.
< 1392267957 968575 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did freenode support that? I never knew.
< 1392268049 658522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1392268066 934003 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1392268094 636569 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup ha, that's really a good tip. I'll adapt that on the next reconnect.
< 1392268102 28412 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392268124 627841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: btw my window size is set by putty, but irssi has layout configuration for the subwindows (i just have two normally)
< 1392268170 813293 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it turn out it is the same to me I have window size set by PuTTY, but there are no subwindows.
< 1392268333 359540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i'm not sure if i've included my account name in the password, as that page recommends
< 1392268391 249735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's almost never an issue anyway
< 1392268474 917155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i now have tmux between putty and irssi as well, but all the tmux windows are full size
< 1392268585 84011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincidentally, both tmux and irssi have green status bars
< 1392268765 944470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what about it
< 1392268803 350410 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it keeps happening, and more or less trapping me inside
< 1392268804 213591 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392268852 833208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: on the bright side, it prevents the ground from catching fire hth
< 1392268880 877578 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you become trapped
< 1392268899 714349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night
< 1392268905 318061 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I guess in theory I can walk around in 6"+ inches of snow, but it's not that easy
< 1392268945 56251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they not shovel sidewalks where you are?
< 1392268987 156802 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I enter the password manually each time (using the PASS command) but have a macro for the NICK and USER commands.
< 1392269041 63743 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: they do eventually. Some of them
< 1392269087 674356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/
< 1392269110 682000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When reading about SQLite I see that it says Firefox uses it. I thought Firefox uses JavaScripts, not SQL, isn't it? If you use Firefox maybe you know, how to access SQL with it?
< 1392269207 224273 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure it uses SQL internally, but doubt it would give external websites an interface to use SQL, unless HTML5 specifies that such an interface should exist (I'm not sure)
< 1392269219 977479 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extensions can probably access Firefox's databases
< 1392269251 459769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default I have sqlite databases for: addons chromeappsstore content-prefs cookies downloads extensions formhistory permissions places search signons urlclassifier3 webappsstore
< 1392269287 164008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_SQL_Database yes
< 1392269290 216592 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't mean on websites! I mean for extensions
< 1392269319 168657 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extensions are written in JavaScripts and XUL (although they can be written using HTML too), not SQL.
< 1392269341 666215 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: things that use SQL are almost never written purely in SQL
< 1392269363 16462 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They create SQL using another language, generally, and then run it
< 1392269374 674397 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how oerjan gets by without reverse video
< 1392269438 329129 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :6"+ inches eh
< 1392269448 769383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't how I do it usually; parameters like ?1 and so on may be generated using another language if necessary but usually I write other things directly in SQL
< 1392269475 400782 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some functions and virtual table modules may also be written in C, though, too
< 1392269539 756923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but wouldn't you like to run JavaScript inside your SQL engine https://code.google.com/p/plv8js/wiki/PLV8
< 1392269588 255431 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let/ec seems nicer than the usual imperative return, but some people who hate early return for causing confusion would probably also hate abusing let/ec too
< 1392269607 757767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's let/ec
< 1392269615 9199 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why I would need to run JavaScript inside of SQL engine.
< 1392269713 432856 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the same reason you'd want to run WEB inside TeX
< 1392269732 818663 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: syntax sugar for call/ec, which is short for call-with-escape-continuation
< 1392269742 927375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's escape continuation mean
< 1392269764 535549 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is similar to call-with-current-continuation except the continuation can only be used within the dynamic extent of the given function
< 1392269770 874190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1392269772 446224 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392269780 425974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means more efficient implementation?
< 1392269801 569654 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and possibly clearer to read too (knowing that it can only be used in a certain way)
< 1392269817 946884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: You run WEB *inside* of TeX? You can certainly make similar systems that run completely inside of TeX, but WEB uses external programs too.
< 1392269822 769739 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/cont.html?q=let%2Fec#%28def._%28%28quote._~23~25kernel%29._call-with-escape-continuation%29%29
< 1392269822 958479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you try to save/return it?
< 1392269839 276419 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using it would give an error
< 1392269870 728657 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I run running runs inside of insides inside.
< 1392269900 104042 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pasterack.org/pastes/6784
< 1392269951 219397 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saving and then using it all while within the dynamic extent of the call-with-escape-continuation should be fine though
< 1392270283 472282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does scheme have any Undefined Behavior?
< 1392270288 647942 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the C sense
< 1392270313 481527 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's behavior that's ambiguously described in the spec
< 1392270325 774401 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oleg talks about it somewhere, iirc, but beyond that I don't really know
< 1392270332 175469 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's not UB
< 1392270337 375347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1392270346 482875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't function argument eval order undefined, for one?
< 1392270357 592651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "unspecified" in C terms
< 1392270388 775742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i behavior left as an exercise for the reader
< 1392270398 922984 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I keep forgetting about that
< 1392270402 953922 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-4.html#%_sec_1.3.2
< 1392270422 246620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i opened a bug for that os x documentation and cited the C11 spec twice (thanks to fizzie)
< 1392270427 800244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i a real language lawyer now
< 1392270430 847813 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What’s really sad is that some so-called high-level languages like Scheme intentionally include undefined behavior, too. This may make Scheme look like a real systems language after all."
< 1392270432 340989 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know some for-effect procedures return unspecified values cos the kernel guy wouldn't shut up about it. i think there's some other stuff, like, something to do with define maybe?
< 1392270448 966429 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does everyone dislike undefined behavior, it makes perfect sense to me...
< 1392270475 705968 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I have been preaching the ‘unsafe and undefined gospel’ for a long time in PL courses. Indeed, I have been preaching it for such a long time that former students still have T shirts with my quote “Scheme is just as bad as FORTRAN” for the same issue. Indeed, some HotSpot compiler authors may still own this T shirt."
< 1392270538 411101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sassy
< 1392270541 993072 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-9.html#%_sec_6.1 some UB in the behavior of eqv? on weird crap
< 1392270543 653145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what happens if you language-lawyer and then ken thompson says "we never meant for it to work that way, C89 shouldn't have allowed it"
< 1392270554 961389 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :could look more but whooooo caaaaares
< 1392270562 93826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what happens (did that happen)
< 1392270566 586777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1392270593 786972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you count as a language lawyer or do you lose your language lawyer license or what
< 1392270604 30381 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like, language common law
< 1392270685 560523 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :having a language explicitly do the common law precedent thing would be kinda interesting
< 1392270690 755822 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but would require easier "lawsuits"
< 1392270709 880665 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that how some specs are written
< 1392270721 577306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or e.g. alternative ruby implementations
< 1392270743 749026 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but like, explicitly. and presumably faster.
< 1392270751 993743 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the legal system: fast"
< 1392270756 791384 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392270760 759821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, you can get non-DRM http://www.brokenagegame.com/ now
< 1392270846 710637 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it have DRM before?
< 1392270855 783090 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you just mean it's released instead of the kickstarter alpha thing
< 1392270863 532324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were just selling it on steam before
< 1392270884 907778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably can't in good faith recommend to people to buy things on steam
< 1392270966 375631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Isn't that just the wrong way?"  "Yes, but faster!"
< 1392271339 624323 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION owns like a dozen things on steam, oops
< 1392271511 281704 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is steam evil?
< 1392271565 406575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK
< 1392271570 106675 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I'm too late.
< 1392271596 461440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no metasepia and no fungot
< 1392271609 815556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're quite short on bots now
< 1392271627 599766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :) hi there
< 1392271627 927506 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hi there
< 1392271631 135041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O
< 1392271655 453651 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) >'Hi kmc'
< 1392271655 797235 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Hi kmc
< 1392271661 211028 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) <'Hi kmc'
< 1392271661 623311 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: +------+
< 1392271661 812311 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: |Hi kmc|
< 1392271661 812482 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: +------+
< 1392271667 471890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nice box
< 1392271673 871996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that what they call a "boxed value"
< 1392271682 591015 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1392271683 563716 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the game whose original kickstarter thing was this guy telling you how he wants to bathe in your money
< 1392271685 245346 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something
< 1392271838 968400 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe they already had gotten some money from the kickstarter and he was like mm moneys. or something. maybe. i should pay more attention to things maybe.
< 1392271861 438634 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just found alex churchill's stackoverflow posting about the second version of his MtGTM...
< 1392273959 244717 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does wikipedia say Clean is influenced by Haskell, but created 3 years earlier?
< 1392274016 942238 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) <<<<<'' 
< 1392274017 272373 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: +--------+
< 1392274017 461524 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: |+------+|
< 1392274017 461659 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: ||+----+||
< 1392274017 461746 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: |||+--+|||
< 1392274017 461832 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: ||||++||||
< 1392274018 69175 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: ...
< 1392274031 233813 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the magical box raid.
< 1392274241 373680 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: maybe the devteams knew one another. or the haskell in question is prestandard.
< 1392274592 594223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :time travel
< 1392275589 906216 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1392276183 229235 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :
< 1392276992 689462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1392277023 848415 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392277028 332185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's at least some fungots.
< 1392277028 563925 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's... kind of when you say python primitives weren't objects?
< 1392277030 619983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome back fungot
< 1392277030 958203 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i thought so too. for simple data like lists symbols vectors numbers such? do you need?' or something, i guess some fnord is involved.
< 1392277036 127402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1392277036 316187 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
< 1392277045 13460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style jargon
< 1392277045 202622 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: jargon (UNIX-HATERS mailing list archive)
< 1392277049 330740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It doesn't persist the style.)
< 1392277051 181093 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more fungot pls
< 1392277051 429382 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hey quux, we look in our routing tables as see that unix-weenish is rife with possibilities for misinterpretation. what's your problem.
< 1392277108 868428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool
< 1392277109 95392 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No.
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< 1392280172 270086 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only now come to realize that with a named let, the named function doesn't have to be called in tail-call position
< 1392280173 130178 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp
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< 1392282101 575486 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you mean in scheme?
< 1392282167 355625 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anything else have named let?
< 1392282198 480669 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: dunno, I think some other schemes probably have it
< 1392282203 630164 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1392282206 98586 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean some other lisps
< 1392282224 349552 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "named let" isn't too specific as a name, maybe some other language calls something else that
< 1392282251 776019 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :none do that i'm aware of, unless you count half-made pseudoschemes ofc
< 1392282630 37720 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, r6rs actually calls it "named let". I didn't know that name.
< 1392282670 636282 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so does r5rs
< 1392282682 629727 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1392282725 578346 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well like 'let' isn't usually a noun anyway
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< 1392284014 855163 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.textfiles.com/uploads/apple2gscracks.txt sweet
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< 1392290941 141998 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to translate algorithmically from B,C,K,W to Hindley-Milner B,C,K,W with fix?
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< 1392292712 667178 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cracks were so much simpler in the old days. (Also, there was a Neuromancer video game?)
< 1392292937 291754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :An Interplay adventure game, right? 
< 1392292943 833952 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392292991 730978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/neuromancer/screenshots/gameShotId,3603/ <- look, cyberspace.
< 1392293158 737172 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are... rather unimaginative names. Compared to, say, shikata_ga_nai.
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< 1392298977 27938 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, the weather in the UK is just trolling now
< 1392298983 282143 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we just had a hailstorm that lasted about 30 seconds
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< 1392314132 408973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Vorpal Raspberry Pi in full frame rather than a circle, courtesy of a non-broken adapter ring and a more suitable pair of lenses: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140213-pi.jpg
< 1392314132 833438 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1392314139 327473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Vorpal It's still a completely impractical setup, since even with smallest aperture (f/32) the depth of field is that small, and it's not possible to get lower magnification.
< 1392314139 817611 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1392314143 334441 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Vorpal A couple of shots of the ridiculous-looking setup: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140213-shot1.jpg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140213-shot2.jpg
< 1392314143 702424 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1392314147 357787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Vorpal (Though the crank-to-raise-or-lower neck of the actual tripod did make focusing easier.)
< 1392314147 812497 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
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< 1392314821 634764 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does the MONITOR command mean on this IRC?
< 1392314926 271062 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/atheme/charybdis/blob/master/doc/monitor.txt zzo38 
< 1392314929 948214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nice
< 1392314944 628440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pair of lenses?
< 1392314945 543790 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: [524] ais523 monitor Help not found
< 1392314952 129036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it doesn't know
< 1392314973 239588 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RevLensMac.png
< 1392314980 153938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: (It's very silly.)
< 1392314996 645261 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: lol
< 1392315007 18317 :atriq!~Taneb@pc606s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I got marks back on a programming formative exam I did last term
< 1392315008 667621 :atriq!~Taneb@pc606s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :49/50
< 1392315019 800271 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has AP Physics flashbacks
< 1392315039 435103 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, the adapter ring (#2 in the Wikipedia picture) cost approximately $3 on eBay, so at least it wasn't expensive to do either.
< 1392315041 456920 :atriq!~Taneb@pc606s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lost one mark because I missed a shortcut I could take because the input list was assumed to be sorted
< 1392315060 947984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you put some kind of transparent cover over the "body" end of the reversed lens to keep dust out?
< 1392315181 805571 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: That could be nice, but I don't think they really do anything like that; would need to DIY it. Though I'm not sure I'll be doing this habitually enough for that to really matter.
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< 1392315395 270095 :atriq!~Taneb@pc606s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, can anyone golf the Python code "def f(n):return n if n<2 else f(n-1)+f(n-2)" any further?
< 1392315434 199896 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that fibbonacci?
< 1392315437 177783 :atriq!~Taneb@pc606s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aye
< 1392315469 237355 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could golf it by translating it into a different language =P
< 1392315520 759785 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The pair of lenses in this case was the EF-S 55-250mm f/4.0-5.6 zoom (in the "forward" position) and the EF 50mm f/1.8 prime (reversed), but I had to zoom the former all the way to something like 225mm in order to keep the corners from going black, so the minimum magnification was approximately 4.5, which is really rather overkill.
< 1392315532 174575 :atriq!~Taneb@pc606s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, that's pretty easy
< 1392315550 596892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: f=lambda n:n if n<2 ...
< 1392315593 819697 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Good idea
< 1392315618 938968 :atriq!~Taneb@pc606s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :f=lambda n:
< 1392315621 704603 :atriq!~Taneb@pc606s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :def f(n):
< 1392315625 291548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :return
< 1392315630 160385 :atriq!~Taneb@pc606s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh
< 1392315659 651113 :atriq!~Taneb@pc606s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :!python f=lambdan:n if n<2 else f(n-1)+f(n-2)\nprint f(12)
< 1392315662 174696 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :File "", line 1 \     f=lambdan:n if n<2 else f(n-1)+f(n-2)\nprint f(12) \              ^ \ SyntaxError: invalid syntax
< 1392315679 798210 :atriq!~Taneb@pc606s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :!python f=lambda n:n if n<2 else f(n-1)+f(n-2)\nprint f(10)
< 1392315680 869466 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :File "", line 1 \     f=lambda n:n if n<2 else f(n-1)+f(n-2)\nprint f(10) \                                                       ^ \ SyntaxError: unexpected character after line continuation character
< 1392315699 84938 :atriq!~Taneb@pc606s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :!python (lambda n:n if n<2 else f(n-1)+f(n-2))(10)
< 1392315700 188700 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \   File "", line 1, in  \   File "", line 1, in  \ NameError: global name 'f' is not defined
< 1392315704 729042 :atriq!~Taneb@pc606s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1392315706 973975 :atriq!~Taneb@pc606s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway
< 1392315708 344088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you have to name it.
< 1392315727 956990 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a hypothetical stack language, you could do f#[d2 length "f=lambda n:n<2and 1or f(n-2)+f(n-1)"
< 1392317732 985035 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 35
< 1392317735 769070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's p. standard in bash
< 1392317741 356947 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash is strange
< 1392317773 687797 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also perl
< 1392317789 803229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Perl you'd more likely use ?:
< 1392318341 759602 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1392318882 903089 :atriq!~Taneb@pc606s.cs.york.ac.uk QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392318904 800093 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1392319021 868386 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392319150 443416 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( where is a norwegian when you need one
< 1392319192 62428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway
< 1392319194 513350 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: odds on resPairate being universal for m /exactly/ 2?
< 1392319214 267147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'd say I believe it is, but am not certain and have no construction
< 1392319256 227753 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be incredible if it were
< 1392319347 201422 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :also lua
< 1392319349 841505 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :er
< 1392319360 984455 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :old conversation, but whatever
< 1392319478 416337 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone here been to Berlin or Praha?
< 1392319702 560063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been to Berlin
< 1392319727 570210 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, i live in berlin
< 1392319765 539148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O
< 1392319778 966972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"actually, i AM berlin!"
< 1392319788 704500 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1392319827 543931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been to both, but not very recently.
< 1392319842 971655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prague in 2012, I think.
< 1392319860 709398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to go to praha
< 1392319912 677566 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: i might go there in april. wanna be a tourist for a day? or recommend some less common activities to do?
< 1392319941 806750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff your face with currywurst
< 1392320050 788949 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: python nowadays has `if_true if conditional else if_false` expression
< 1392320076 778634 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: but atriq asked for a golfed version
< 1392320109 817570 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-22-180.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392320129 440368 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, yeah. the and+or thing uses 1 less char
< 1392320148 823431 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-22-180.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host
< 1392320149 12865 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392320182 334147 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it saves another char due to kmc's whitespace hackery
< 1392320193 262184 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the and+or variant allows two spaces to be removed, but the if-else only one
< 1392321143 44025 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh that was going to happen regardless. that falls under "common tourist activities"
< 1392321384 934954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is definitely tourist stuff but the Mauermueseum and the DDR Museum are both very interesting
< 1392322137 985977 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392322956 239532 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Prague, there was a whole lot of things related to beer.
< 1392322971 15226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally, I'm not much of a beer, but for people who are beer, there's a lot of that.
< 1392323010 256575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though I was there just for a conference, didn't really do much aside from that.)
< 1392323072 821408 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1392323073 47396 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392323088 159968 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found it enjoyable to just walk around in the city of prague
< 1392323196 561845 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392323278 143165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did a more turisty thing there with my mother, somewhere around 2000, maybe a bit before, but I don't really remember details too well.
< 1392323391 803895 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392324568 93542 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :beer is good
< 1392329103 599208 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: brb
< 1392329217 516387 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392329736 643530 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392331669 648699 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1392331727 178457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392331969 213685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i wonder how oerjan gets by without reverse video <-- what?
< 1392331997 33247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, whoa, whoa, oerjan doesn't have reverse video?
< 1392332004 374681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you even get by?
< 1392332004 753677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you making a joke about the fact i prefer dark text on light background?
< 1392332019 915558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1392332031 702665 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392332076 50428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is going to take some time to get used to boily not leaving just before he enters
< 1392332386 811414 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392332717 99707 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good schedulœrjan evening!
< 1392332776 873803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :god kveilly
< 1392333584 58569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : why does wikipedia say Clean is influenced by Haskell, but created 3 years earlier? <-- presumably later versions of clean have adopted features from haskell, i think type classes are one
< 1392333611 320306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as in, i vaguely recall clean has type classes, which were definitely invented for haskell)
< 1392333825 810346 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what is a kveill? google thinks it's Icelandic for “cry”.
< 1392333852 8169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually norwegian dialect for "evening"
< 1392333877 695043 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1392334616 69554 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392334643 119579 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392334917 132970 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1392335253 952433 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3
< 1392335288 929501 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.171-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg
< 1392335805 779946 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1392336120 733392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : :( where is a norwegian when you need one <-- clearly now that boily has changed habits, you have inherited his "never be here at the same time as oerjan" curse hth
< 1392336208 617337 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a curse?
< 1392336221 481889 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I can be Norwegian for you *wink wink*
< 1392336232 583619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well metasepia was never here when wanted to do ~metar before
< 1392336237 18875 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1392336240 795982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and incidentally, still isn't.
< 1392336244 498427 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_>'...
< 1392336248 347753 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently
< 1392336263 864895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that i've got a particular ~metar need at the moment)
< 1392336270 270999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+i
< 1392336302 712846 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the needs of the metar outweighs the needs of information.
< 1392336314 103742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: don't listen to boily, he'll serve you fake lutefisk made out of poutine!
< 1392336332 57140 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392336340 379660 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... a lutefisk poutine... I'll pitch that Capital Idea at the next joint I visit.
< 1392336343 781415 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK
< 1392336345 55372 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 132350Z 16010KT 9999 FEW013 BKN018 01/M02 Q1005 BECMG BKN013
< 1392336348 102001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ENVA
< 1392336349 231193 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 132350Z 16018KT CAVOK 05/M04 Q0983 RMK WIND 670FT 19023KT
< 1392336364 211774 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KATL
< 1392336365 879019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cry havock
< 1392336377 481231 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.
< 1392336381 442640 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lightly mapoles his bot
< 1392336396 989616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep thinking KATL should refer to some secret lair inside the volcano.
< 1392336398 146829 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 132352Z 29008KT 10SM CLR 04/M03 A2984 RMK AO2 SLP113 T00441033 10072 20039 51014
< 1392336401 243944 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah!
< 1392336425 637672 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: eh? which volcano?
< 1392336434 146630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla, naturally
< 1392336456 261953 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck katla
< 1392336456 905168 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an active volcano in southern Iceland, with an elevation of 970 m, covered by the southeastern part of the M–rdalsjökull Glacier.
< 1392336491 122700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i strongly doubt the original had an ndash in that position
< 1392336494 129446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :M–rdalsjökull
< 1392336527 250062 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, Icelandic is making me kveill.
< 1392336544 901257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the name of the dragon in the brothers lionheart
< 1392336604 200942 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn M–rdalsjökull is a draconic volcano harbouring the secret KATL base.
< 1392336606 121084 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that.
< 1392336630 416329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? M–rdalsjökull
< 1392336630 765532 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :M–rdalsjökull is a draconic volcano harbouring the secret KATL base.
< 1392336643 609996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/'M–rdalsjökull'
< 1392336644 353453 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/M–rdalsjökull: No such file or directory
< 1392336658 510439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/'m–rdalsjökull'
< 1392336659 187271 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/m–rdalsjökull
< 1392336676 774388 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. what is the alphabetic order of an “&”?
< 1392336731 155800 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [' '..'&']
< 1392336732 810640 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : " !\"#$%&"
< 1392336740 662933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's a ligature for "et" of sorts, i think
< 1392336787 781299 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put it at the end of the “M” section.
< 1392336991 163715 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392336995 283120 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. merged and copied and pushed and everything else.
< 1392336999 563739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: odds on resPairate being universal for m /exactly/ 2? <-- you are mean.  i just about thought i could get it done for <= 2.
< 1392337027 489422 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hi. i need travel advice if you have any!
< 1392337044 986357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i cannot guarantee there haven't been other wisdoms added
< 1392337075 98601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: don't travel, it's dangerous hth
< 1392337092 618921 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'll scour and scry and search and sift through the logs for anything Wisdomian.
< 1392337094 911179 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will be in Flam,Getranger(sp?),Aalesund,Bergen,and Olden. If you know of anything that would be super-awesome to see in these places i'll thank you to tell me
< 1392337114 308979 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: going overseas? adventuring in Deep Scandinavia?
< 1392337130 436007 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yessir
< 1392337167 339244 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1392337197 406228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hg
< 1392337198 293320 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mercurial Distributed SCM \  \ basic commands: \  \  add         add the specified files on the next commit \  annotate    show changeset information by line for each file \  clone       make a copy of an existing repository \  commit      commit the specified files or all outstanding changes \  diff        diff repository (or selected files) \  ex
< 1392337231 8979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm it's hard to find the diff numbers without the repository browser.
< 1392337267 400562 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1392337272 697694 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to buy a non-crappy laptop before mid-April...
< 1392337301 954733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i hear most foreigners think geiranger is super-awesome all by itself.  you could go to the aquarium in bergen.
< 1392337323 991290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also bryggen, i suppose
< 1392337343 879231 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read something about bryggen. what's there?
< 1392337345 57273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't been to bergen since he was about 6.
< 1392337378 40673 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :my germanic-language-speaking brain sees "bergen" and just thinks "mountains"
< 1392337429 463060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's old architecture, one of the best preserved (perhaps the only? or maybe outside germany) hanseatic buildings
< 1392337441 114941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/one/some/
< 1392337448 767872 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right the wharf?
< 1392337451 935937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1392337461 624462 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i think that's on the list of things to do already
< 1392337482 254855 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i enjoyed Rostock, so I ranked it pretty high
< 1392337500 622707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i guess it's pretty obligatory if you're on an organized tourist trip
< 1392337527 324711 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that organized. it's a cruise. we get like 8-12 hours to do whatever we want in each place
< 1392337531 341173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're in geiranger, i have a hunch you might go glacier climbing
< 1392337549 883341 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :glacier climbing...should i do that?
< 1392337589 17170 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :climb the glacier! show it who's boss!
< 1392337602 603315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: a guided tour, presumably.
< 1392337616 487148 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll look into it
< 1392337645 298069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :western norway has glaciers close to some of the fjords, anyway.
< 1392337701 20307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION went on such a trip once during a summer school university arrangement, but not at geiranger.
< 1392337725 355056 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, that's what the dragon's named after
< 1392337734 798656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls he got a black toe from that trip, it took half a year or so to grow back out properly
< 1392337743 261262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :toenail, that is
< 1392337759 509128 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad it wasn't a black foot
< 1392337767 720563 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the norwegian mr. deeds!
< 1392337837 322874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: gangrene is no laughing matter. also, i already regret looking it up on wikipedia.
< 1392337844 364617 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls he accidentally his toenail off one time. apparently Canadian toenails have the same growth rate as Norwegian ones.
< 1392337870 755300 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure we've all done it at some point. mine grew back kinda crooked
< 1392338027 402317 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know which of my scars is the stupidest. it's either my knee with: a car being washed, a bush and a flowerbed; or my forehead with: a freezer, a furnace airduct and a sewing machine desk.
< 1392338387 707390 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terran Republic = Peacekeepers?
< 1392338409 981598 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly seem thematically similar
< 1392338418 834830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the kind of peace where it's peaceful because no one's alive
< 1392338502 775602 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the peacekeepers/TR themselves would still be alive
< 1392338522 801361 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess not quite as peaceful though
< 1392338568 129658 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392339031 954742 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is stuck with http://youtu.be/j-3Fgrn7Rls in his ears ♪
< 1392339419 147486 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
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< 1392340484 419457 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: try Q-Tips hth
< 1392340516 578667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear putting q-tips in your ears is dangerous.
< 1392340566 986522 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can go through into your brain
< 1392340569 133074 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru fax
< 1392340659 473489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :His product, which he named "Baby Gays", [...]
< 1392340792 568730 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: «Mise en garde: Pour nettoyer les oreilles, passer délicatement le cure-oreille sur la surface externe, en évitant de pénétrer dans le canal auditif. Garder hors de la portée des jeunes enfants.»
< 1392340813 640970 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what if my brains are made of qtips?
< 1392340882 792046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if qtips are made of brains!
< 1392340936 869259 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, then you have too many brains
< 1392340948 878559 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the consequences are too dire to dwell upon
< 1392340980 732210 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"... I purposefully spill mercury ..."
< 1392340986 103884 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the good ol' feeling of insanity that this chännel exudes.
< 1392341026 323675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a program containing a comment "Let's get fired because I wrote this stupid comment"
< 1392341056 131130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is the only comment in the program)
< 1392341071 403649 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many Linux-using anti-swearing people know about the swears in comments in the Linux source
< 1392341099 517526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AK8yg5s2ps&list=PL786EBDC8D2B4CD1D
< 1392341105 107071 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: speaking of brains, you should try smalahove when Norwaying.
< 1392341120 517721 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Is it good enough, or not good enough? Is it good enough once you put two dots over the "a" in "channel"?
< 1392341139 73314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure smalahove is one of the tricks we pull on foreigners.
< 1392341139 803721 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: same person, but he says it in a differnet video
< 1392341148 771649 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGv_YVQHu7U
< 1392341163 240530 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Towards the end
< 1392341174 530490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: he also says he is very careful with the cleaning up
< 1392341175 781500 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it satisfies me. the ä is idiosyntactic.
< 1392341649 474949 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source
< 1392341649 664334 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98
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< 1392342452 428457 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: NOCTURNAL NORWEGIAN CHICKEN
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< 1392342759 596488 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall an esolang unspecified other than a couple of examples
< 1392342801 879676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESME, CLEARLY
< 1392342839 415985 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A more interesting looking one
< 1392342851 275144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there was also ais523's that he'd forgot how it worked
< 1392342886 444502 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think that was what I was thinking of
< 1392342926 120872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Burn
< 1392342964 320818 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you
< 1392343074 309119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the talk page has a few more hints
< 1392343082 830495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as much as I can remember, at least
< 1392343123 218551 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the specifications of my first ever esolang have been finally lost
< 1392343131 263450 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably a good thing
< 1392343157 940571 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a brainfuck second-derivative
< 1392343169 5727 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck''?
< 1392343182 281510 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ook!++"
< 1392343193 799888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means it's a P fourth-derivative
< 1392343214 763340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, fifth
< 1392343232 592821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need to start using P''' for BF
< 1392343323 396301 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I just thought of a beautiful way to troll oerjan
< 1392343332 109901 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :create a language whose name starts with a letter that isn't present in the name
< 1392343344 547364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, call it "zxcv" but define the name to start with "m"
< 1392343409 676477 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a way to troll oerjan that doesn't involve trolling everyone in general
< 1392343466 845795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: don't tempt me to move INTERCAL to between Commercial and Complode in the language list
< 1392343493 772124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you do, I won't object
< 1392343517 627033 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't object as long as you are also keeping it filed under "INTERCAL" too
< 1392343533 124451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd actually forgotten that INTERCAL was an abbreviation until you mentioned that
< 1392343548 730231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/INTERCAL/"INTERCAL"/
< 1392343572 81062 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god, my live esolang creation is in SIX DAYS
< 1392343652 965961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the sixth day, Taneb panicked.
< 1392343675 425196 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the seventh day, add REST
< 1392343708 59241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you have any ideas that you're going to use? or is the idea going to be worked out on the spot too?
< 1392343713 259869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, is this spec or impl or both?
< 1392343748 117121 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a few ideas but pretty vague, I'm gonna try to do some audience participation, too
< 1392343755 445427 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably just a spec, impl if I have time
< 1392343841 784399 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392344183 522996 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1xu2kv/silk_road_2_hacked_all_bitcoins_stolen/
< 1392344196 508493 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what's actualyl going on
< 1392344239 743915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I think Silk Road 2 got hacked and all the Bitcoins were stolen
< 1392344271 748024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, the people adminning Silk Road 2 are pretending so.
< 1392344298 223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that was what everyone said the last time this kind of thing happened.
< 1392344385 69147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or maybe that's what they WANT you to think! wait...
< 1392345684 456426 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a riddle wrapped in a mystery wrapped in a HMAC
< 1392345738 74861 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem!
< 1392345810 495640 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe
< 1392345912 825343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you can still call it a social hack
< 1392345996 987008 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrapped in a joint
< 1392346181 763455 :augur!~augur@c-68-55-204-212.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1392346552 79964 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions
< 1392346552 923290 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, weetoflakes, and this sentence.
< 1392346623 865542 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't had authentic weetoflakes in ages
< 1392346642 398999 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I haven't been awake in time for breakfast in ages
< 1392347738 559486 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392350099 134498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eating in your sleeping isn't usually recommended.
< 1392350113 507855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-ing
< 1392350116 166225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also typing
< 1392350334 928192 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1392350893 841968 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-66.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host
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< 1392351505 427674 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392353939 914236 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392353941 576823 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :inforkcoin bowickethaxcoin intccoin undericoin doublecoin lyapasscoin cocccoin escutampercoin lessasscoin oracoin tellcoin iagcoin erixcoin reliucoin itnumecoin suxecoin hayrcoin udgedimacoin golfecoin thessimcoin
< 1392354011 631670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good coins
< 1392354258 736015 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392354455 40362 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice crash on gox
< 1392354466 184814 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as good as the btc-e crash the other day
< 1392354483 172478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lessasscoin" is hilarious
< 1392354488 964623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the other cryptocoins are ass
< 1392354490 766318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not this one
< 1392354493 383701 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, not as much
< 1392354817 935312 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
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< 1392354860 626708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn I should have bought
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< 1392355017 781368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like "doublecoin", it does all the arithmetic using double precision floating point, wcpgw
< 1392355028 324595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(please tell me bitcoin doesn't do that)
< 1392355035 429699 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't
< 1392355039 632136 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all fixed point
< 1392355045 503802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1392355060 409554 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why they're subdivisible to 10^-8
< 1392355066 862728 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's the fixed point multiplier :P
< 1392355072 915748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1392355080 262652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bitcoin ecosystem has a lot of clueless people in it now, but it seems like Satoshi and the other OG's knew what they were doing
< 1392355091 708251 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the bug satoshi baked into bitcoin
< 1392355092 49629 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in terms of cryptography & engineering if not economics ;P
< 1392355104 60175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm?
< 1392355109 6108 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear his original code was pretty shitty actually, engineering-wise
< 1392355124 339380 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you know bitcoin has a mini stack language in it, right?
< 1392355132 22289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1392355147 244087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite
< 1392355158 746542 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the commands in that language accidentally pops one extra thing off teh stack
< 1392355165 493718 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that, haven't looked at it in a while
< 1392355172 744890 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1392355173 554338 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :so any time you use it, you need to push some crap on
< 1392355186 963544 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's pretty much unfixable without forking the whole shebang, so we're stuck with it forever
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< 1392355238 466036 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of offends the language geek in me
< 1392355245 38300 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hey, it still works :P
< 1392355256 949514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1392355258 694935 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well
< 1392355294 28475 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :OP_CHECKMULTISIG
< 1392355296 157599 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the one
< 1392355298 641071 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tidbit.co.in/ "Monetize without ads. Let your visitors help you mine Bitcoins."
< 1392355318 967039 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, that was some MIT folks
< 1392355324 499894 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems a tad impractical
< 1392355328 545872 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk
< 1392355333 856813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great so now whenever Chrome is chewing bizarre amounts of CPU i can blame it on this
< 1392355431 514114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"20K hashes/client" /second presumably?
< 1392355450 914050 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sure hope so
< 1392355460 198299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TWENTY THOUSAND HASHES, EVER
< 1392355465 524743 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1392355480 794343 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of a miniscule amount, unfortunately
< 1392355484 724244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a visitor is worth on the order of 1e-8 dollars per 10 minutes
< 1392355490 989816 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a reason people don't CPU mine anymore
< 1392355492 721065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :minus pool fees
< 1392355494 166050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah....
< 1392355505 140555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :come back with WebCL :)
< 1392355505 402764 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :they said they were looking into WebGL for GPU mining
< 1392355506 568996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and litecoin
< 1392355509 703650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ja
< 1392355515 184339 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even that isn't really going to make much money
< 1392355520 417361 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a reason people don't GPU mine anymore :P
< 1392355785 7202 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you believe in Cartesian Duality, Physicalism, Idealism, or Neutral Monism? My opinion is Neutral Monism.
< 1392356122 606485 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1392356273 616000 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Litecoin GPU mining at least still does something.
< 1392356285 493756 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... yeah
< 1392356335 168620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to mention dogecoin
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< 1392356424 934000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: would it be fair to describe these respectively as: both mind and matter exist; only matter exists; only mind exists; only one kind of thing exists and it's neither matter nor mind
< 1392356463 484044 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so webcl's purpose is getting me to mine bitcoins for strangers, huh
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< 1392357816 15716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Almost. Instead of "exist", put "fundamental".
< 1392357839 358290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Others are therefore derivative rather than fundamental.
< 1392357887 127501 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see
< 1392357905 540857 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case I would have to go with neutral monism, as well
< 1392357925 676486 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sold on monism through direct personal experience
< 1392357963 923882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it seems very unlikely that humans already understand the universe well enough that our current concepts of "matter" or "mind" accurately describe the one true fundamental thing
< 1392357972 511263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though if I had to pick one to be closer I would go with "matter"
< 1392358135 408185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :While that is a valid reason, it isn't how I would do it. Still, of course I don't know either, but I can make opinions, based on what I know about physics and mathematics and stuff.
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< 1392358397 543117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
< 1392358400 236106 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are your reasons?
< 1392358464 585328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it seems significant that our concept of "matter" has changed rather drastically in the past handful of generations)
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< 1392358589 654095 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes with physicalism
< 1392358618 739291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of my reasons are difficult to describe, but I can describe some of them.
< 1392358721 720438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For one thing, I am considering "matter" as the physical universe which includes matter, energy, subatomic particles, their direction of movement, spacetime.
< 1392358798 909441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think the way science goes at present, if we do discover the one true thing, it's more likely to get labeled as "matter" than "mind" but that seems like a cultural naming preference and nothing more)
< 1392358849 229502 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, that would be all it is perhaps, but I disagree.
< 1392358890 5721 :Koen1!~Adium@62.210.33.2 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392358897 755828 :Koen1!~Adium@62.210.33.2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello
< 1392358989 420736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1392359000 184658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: with what do you disagree?
< 1392359020 783318 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I disagree with that kind of naming scheme, but they can do what they want.
< 1392359024 874593 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1392359043 682265 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Both "matter" and "mind" are the wrong name for it.)
< 1392359050 800863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a name for it?
< 1392359084 276513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The truth is five, but men have only one name for it."
< 1392359095 220224 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the "one true thing" is *really* mathematics, and not the universe. The universe is an instanteation of such thing, and it is possible for mathematical formulas to have multiple solutions, or might have no solutions, and therefore, nondeterminism, and furthermore, things that "work out as part of God's plan" or whatever you call that (I don't know a better way to describe it, hence the quote marks)
< 1392359102 999843 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No, I don't
< 1392359117 672805 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can think of kind of how it would work
< 1392359170 595625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if the universe is an instantiation of mathematics, why this particular one? why these particular values for fundamental constants that could be different?
< 1392359172 696299 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematics is the real reality.
< 1392359190 562522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Because it is what is observed.
< 1392359192 220249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the most true model of the universe has no arbitrary constants, though
< 1392359219 958458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps other people in different universes with different values are wondering the same thing
< 1392359222 927293 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is possible, but, maybe it isn't the case; it leaves to see whether or not anyone can figure out whether or not it is possible.
< 1392359314 123125 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, it is also possible that both those things are possible!
< 1392359782 2229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can also say that, for example, you can have a quantum state vector which has to be longer due to entangled with other things, it can include "mind", but not really; rather it is something else which includes a "mind", but "mind" also includes a "matter" and vice-versa too, kind of, similar to the Taijitu, almost.
< 1392359860 192197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems disappointing that the Taijitu is not recursive
< 1392359912 213224 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have seen a recursive version.
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< 1392361829 753038 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1392361901 641168 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1392361968 97093 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems disappointing that the paths in taijitu are not C^2
< 1392361985 827976 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1392362041 772998 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392362072 325115 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nat%C3%BCrlich_gewachsenes_yin-yang-.jpg nature does it C^\infty like it should be; also i hope you're talking about this symbol.
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< 1392362988 100980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do mean the symbol having the similar shape like that wood
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< 1392363714 893956 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subject: ARE YOU DEAD OR ALIVE,FROM CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA
< 1392363725 567508 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Thank God that after all your surffer, it is now well with you, looking forward to make the transfer today."
< 1392363739 527751 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :After all that surffer, it is indeed good to get some compensation.
< 1392366042 149086 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
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< 1392367872 339327 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a one true thing
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< 1392369453 976286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "One True is the fictional hegemonic software program that takes control of individual human minds and entire human societies in John Barnes' two Meme Wars novels Candle and The Sky So Big and Black; --"
< 1392369464 142108 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1392369478 205481 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they were talking about that, though.
< 1392369488 579711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What is the One True Thing? 
< 1392369488 768856 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: unequipped to represent swearing in cartoons? or is it to work between sun systems and other such slime infested garbage.
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< 1392371610 837525 :Koen1!~Adium@62.210.33.2 QUIT :Quit: Leaving.
< 1392372816 615491 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392373185 181266 :MoALTz!~no@46.112.36.185 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392373350 225862 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392373985 159752 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1392375422 447091 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is fungot's opinion about oracle
< 1392375422 636084 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: so i'm " hqm". oh, this problem.
< 1392375439 622887 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot seems to think it's a problem
< 1392375439 812158 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yes, as i can figure out how to use it too. after paying dues on this machine is,
< 1392378186 793838 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392378195 131065 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Client Quit
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< 1392380098 100697 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1392380628 967338 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's powerful.
< 1392380639 100403 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot knows how to wield the One True Problem
< 1392380639 289307 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: generate an executable.
< 1392380646 312732 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :naturally.
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< 1392395698 14229 :password2_!~password@197.78.173.164 NICK :password2
< 1392395916 775720 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
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< 1392396397 842228 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392396436 590262 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :join #libreoffice-dev
< 1392396440 771775 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit
< 1392396462 360215 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why?
< 1392396490 763243 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too lazy to download the client, so I'm trying to use the webirc
< 1392396502 866341 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't figure out how to join multiple channels
< 1392396608 16365 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know either
< 1392396757 560744 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am running into the problem that I don't know how to not write in Haskell any more
< 1392396773 418742 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :luserdroog, #channel1,#channel2
< 1392396781 208323 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Separated by commas, no spaces
< 1392396814 844448 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome, taneb. thanks.
< 1392396820 219531 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing Haskell becomes a problem when you're actually writing Python
< 1392396841 316075 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
< 1392396885 254088 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392396896 828380 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can let djinn write the code for you
< 1392397131 140606 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You can write in multiple kind of programming languages though isn't it?
< 1392397138 857637 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392397162 336163 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, Python does not support tail recursion
< 1392397270 667940 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't it?
< 1392397291 827907 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a few cases it could be possible, if implemented properly
< 1392397297 117749 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because guido says being able to inspect the stack is more important
< 1392397345 154324 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1392397646 224901 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anoter way would be to implement explicit tail recursion
< 1392397766 779982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM
< 1392397785 938560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, doesn't /join #channel work from the web client?
< 1392397796 160168 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah?
< 1392397888 923696 :nooodl!~nooodl@62.205.91.202 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392397921 284867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just wondering why luserdroog didn't know about that
< 1392397947 410510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if he did and it doesn't work
< 1392398313 605908 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote guido
< 1392398314 518956 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :217)  who is guido van rossum   you could say he's a man who grew a beard but acquired none of the associated good properties
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< 1392400657 201876 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there drivers for connecting displays and keyboard and other devices using ethernet?
< 1392400739 370847 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
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< 1392400830 106447 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a keyboard with ethernet?
< 1392400981 201816 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have such a thing
< 1392401008 945942 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a keyboard with PS/2
< 1392401062 500614 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you want drivers then
< 1392401155 402516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that it can be use in case I do have one. Also with file system device (possibly using Plan 9 protocol and/or FTP); that would be the most useful use of devices with ethernet
< 1392401184 637995 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they even exist?
< 1392401227 691231 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know.
< 1392401255 187614 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look like it
< 1392401560 610962 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there are tools for transmitting i/o over ethernet etc. between computers, which, if you have enough computers, may accomplish the same!
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< 1392403621 557883 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think many (any?) of those are particularly Ethernet-specific, though.
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< 1392410738 444353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/abs/1401.7087   I like how this abstract makes "the D-Wave machine" sound like an alien artifact discovered on the far side of the moon
< 1392410810 941633 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like a vibrator
< 1392410945 78182 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a quantum vibrator...
< 1392411186 495408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :used to produce orgasmic superpositions
< 1392411257 149089 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you come from blog.cr.yp.to?
< 1392411301 259695 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't watch porn, you'll collapse their wavefunctions!
< 1392411446 724414 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :'precise terminology', djb is funny. "The latest speed reports for fully homomorphic encryption are—let me use precise technical terminology here, since I'm a big fan of careful benchmarking—ludicrously slow, but without ideal lattices they would be utterly ludicrously slow."
< 1392411451 860936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mis-parses "come from" due to previous topic
< 1392411455 257187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's where I got the link
< 1392411670 901538 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the previous topic involve modern INTERCAL?
< 1392411925 244806 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about quantum INTERCAL
< 1392411941 33775 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any quantum esolang by the way?
< 1392411944 445321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Quantum INTERCAL" is an awful name, it's basically just multithreading
< 1392411957 590063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, there are quite a few, but they all seem to misunderstand quantum computation
< 1392411965 664586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wouldn't actually be any faster on a quantum computer
< 1392411982 77403 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well esolangs aren't really made for speed
< 1392411988 877475 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum intercal would have to allow superpositions of DOs and DONTs.
< 1392411996 636667 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have a degree in quantum physics
< 1392412003 887501 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should give it a try someday
< 1392412028 466015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: DO ABSTAIN FROM (5) WHILE REINSTATING IT
< 1392412033 971637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, I think that's the syntax
< 1392412045 549437 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be "WHILE LEAVING IT REINSTATED"
< 1392412101 711569 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I could make like
< 1392412107 212163 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some particle automaton machine
< 1392412113 877574 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I was right. I had not seen Quantum INTERCAL before, just the concurrent one.
< 1392412114 66900 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And have a bunch of various states
< 1392412135 197254 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like electrons would be bits and photons would be tits (eheheh)
< 1392412169 470116 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmpf. "threaded", of course.
< 1392412198 262404 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmers misunderstanding quantum????? why i never
< 1392412213 200691 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I guess a bunch of detectors too
< 1392412222 329582 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With some RGN to simulate le quantum
< 1392412245 780335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :QC is so alluringly close to things that programmers find familiar, but it's actually completely weird and alien
< 1392412254 342221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which causes a lot of confusion
< 1392412304 264969 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do programmers mistake?
< 1392412352 686895 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the normal assumption is that all the threads are separate and can communicate with the outside world
< 1392412366 139380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actual quantum computing is more like, you have all these threads, but only one of them, chosen at random, actually does anything
< 1392412389 635387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this isn't the same as just running one thread chosen at random because they can interfere with each other, altering the probabilities of which one is chosen
< 1392412399 659712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1392412414 140204 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well technically it's more like having one thread all along
< 1392412416 112784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea that your computer's state is a 2^n-dimensional complex vector is pretty alien to traditional CS
< 1392412425 203036 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then you project part of it upon measurement
< 1392412549 88567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing I love about quantum computing is that you can never guarantee a useful answer
< 1392412560 706110 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well technically it's also true with actual computing
< 1392412561 108489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all you can do is increase, as far as possible, the probability that the answer is useful
< 1392412565 960742 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although error rates are very low
< 1392412574 101440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you check it on a classical computer to see if it was right or not, if not, try again
< 1392412575 977683 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think like one bit in 10^12
< 1392412968 94971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a lot of classical algorithms are like that too
< 1392413001 493518 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also of note
< 1392413004 356178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an open question whether classical computers can do more in polynomial time when algorithms are allowed to be probabilistic
< 1392413009 940150 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are actual articles about time travelling quantum computing
< 1392413357 929499 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that P=NP, or some other problem?
< 1392413710 890525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the class of probabilistic algorithms I had in mind is BPP (there are some others)
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< 1392413795 893717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are poly-time algorithms where you can decrease the error rate by a factor of 2^n by running it n times
< 1392413923 967009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BPP contains P, but it's not known whether NP contains BPP or the other way or neither
< 1392413935 660407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is super counterintuitive to me and I tend to remember it wrong)
< 1392414179 294246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah the open question I refer to is P ?= BPP
< 1392414189 514199 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boner poop polynomial?
< 1392414199 388523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely
< 1392414378 364371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a world where BPP is bigger than NP would be pretty weird
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< 1392414793 763395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are there any problems known to be in BPP but not known to be in NP?
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< 1392418967 891162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm not sure. http://cstheory.stackexchange.com/questions/11425/problem-in-bpp-but-not-known-to-be-in-rp-or-co-rp seems relevant
< 1392418999 940992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(NP contains RP, and co-NP contains co-RP)
< 1392419033 406068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's thought that BPP doesn't have any complete problems
< 1392419572 257346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :classes like NP have an obvious complete problem, e.g. { (M,X,T) | nondet. tm M accepts X within polynomial time bound T }
< 1392419673 375148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every nondeterministic TM recognizes /some/ language in NP
< 1392419685 917797 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's undecidable whether a nondeterministic TM recognizes a language in BPP
< 1392419914 316545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can think of NP as a probabilistic class where false positives aren't allowed, but the probability of a false negative can be any number less than 1 (i.e. all but one path rejects)
< 1392419993 718815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's similar to the oracle machine definition
< 1392420168 981828 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is?
< 1392420329 907358 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeez, that was a strong gust of wind
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< 1392420439 980267 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imagine a P-time program that has a TC oracle to consult with, but the oracle might be untrustworthy; a problem's in NP if the P-time machine can solve it all the time with a trustworthy oracle, and with no false positives even with an untrustworthy oracle
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< 1392420519 676959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting
< 1392420710 104136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"TC" is unnecessarily precise though, anything between an NP-oracle and an "everything" oracle would work just as well i think...
< 1392420726 730326 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, but you can't use an NP-oracle because that would be a recursive definition
< 1392420736 688022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, but e.g. PSPACE
< 1392420750 283563 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, a PSPACE oracle would work just as well
< 1392420763 981278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, the oracle definition makes the difference between NP and co-NP pretty clear to me
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< 1392420907 894829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would assume you've read that PSPACE itself is equivalent to another such setup, where the P-time program can use random dice throws (as long as the oracle cannot know those)
< 1392420998 215106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/know/predict/, i guess
< 1392421059 275850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, those definitions seem less pure to me than the one for NP, though
< 1392421098 414248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :black panther party with np oracle
< 1392421148 104028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i wonder if there's anything interesting if the oracle _could_ predict the dice throws
< 1392421257 970818 :Koen1!~Adium@62.210.33.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello
< 1392421281 129002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Koen1 
< 1392421312 168821 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the difference between NP and co-NP used to be clear to me. all the classes in the PSPACE hierarchy were. it was all just swapping universals with existentials, or prepending an extra one of those
< 1392421333 957394 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now i've forgotten exactly what the proposition all those quantifiers get prepended to is
< 1392421602 440707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd think any unquantified boolean expression in variables...
< 1392421621 427653 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but then what comes before the expression?
< 1392421629 370013 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, before the quantifiers
< 1392421637 938618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...nothing
< 1392421655 775245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :checking whether the whole thing is true or false
< 1392421662 890440 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so NP is just \exists x P(x)
< 1392421678 359485 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and co-NP is \forall x P(x)?
< 1392421685 210674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, with x an arbritrary number of variables though
< 1392421706 349447 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, a vector
< 1392421758 107143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well those are complete problems for the class
< 1392421833 190582 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then P=co-P=P(x)?
< 1392421875 668409 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's coming back :P
< 1392421910 530205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1392421946 633211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait
< 1392421955 960944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not quite, for P itself
< 1392421967 395608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a circuit then, not just an expression.
< 1392421978 675190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least if you use LOGSPACE-reductions.
< 1392422014 630723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use P-reductions, you can of course use something weaker, even trivial.
< 1392422067 441016 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought there was some restriction on the expression P? like it has to be DTM-evaluatable in polynomial time or something?
< 1392422079 872351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's DTM
< 1392422093 874209 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :deterministic turing machine
< 1392422120 203006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well by expression i mean an _actual_ expression built up with variables and boolean connections like and, or, not
< 1392422120 741064 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392422131 907304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that can be evaluated in LOGSPACE iirc
< 1392422139 667464 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily
< 1392422148 277255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is weaker than P
< 1392422244 199689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least i recall thinking about evaluating expressions in LOGSPACE once, it's a little tricky if the expression tree is unbalanced
< 1392422244 909476 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's polynomial time as long as the expression is finite then, which all unquantified expressions in a finite number of variables are...
< 1392422250 365393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still possible
< 1392422298 759444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well the expression is part of the problem you are solving, which thus by convention has to be expressible as a finite string...
< 1392422300 277395 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands oerjan a poly-time 3-SAT solver
< 1392422308 456183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, shiny!
< 1392422320 720316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to break some RSA
< 1392422363 312537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy to build a poly-time SAT solver, it just needs to double the amount of energy / matter in use at each time step, so.... watch out
< 1392422376 734945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads the fine print: O(x^Ackermann(5,5))
< 1392422419 683043 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sorry about that
< 1392422422 583472 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :best i could do
< 1392422438 279207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well
< 1392422484 828515 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the bright side, norway is still in the lead at the games, and i got a stroopwaffel for valentimes
< 1392422518 860411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice!
< 1392422544 723035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like stroopwafels
< 1392422545 626530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite several of our best having some bad luck
< 1392422652 837907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently our athletes are not used to doing competitive skiing in > +10 celsius temperatures
< 1392422727 451955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's 50 fahrenheit for you weirdos)
< 1392423001 824715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not if you sort by number of gold medals hth
< 1392423053 469162 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm the U.S. is second in all-time winter olympics medals. Austria is third. Canada is way behind. I would have expected better from Canada.
< 1392423056 67753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't actually kept up with the games enough to know what actual score is
< 1392423100 723389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The gold first ranking system described above is used by most of the world media, as well as the IOC. While the gold first ranking system has been used occasionally by some American media outlets, newspapers in the United States and Canada primarily publish medal tables ordered by the total number of medals won,[6][7][8][9][10][11] and Canada used the total medal count on the official website ...
< 1392423106 731048 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... for the Vancouver Olympics."
< 1392423140 934742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course the only true ranking system is to order the table in ascending Levenshtein distance of the country name from the string "Finland", in which we've generally been doing p. well.
< 1392423166 917613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course.
< 1392423306 514263 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :order gold-first, the top two are still norway and U.S., but then third goes to Soviet Union (for now) and fourth to Germany. apparently Austria gets on the podium a lot, but not in the top spot as often as Germany.
< 1392423354 459025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland also drops quite a lot when going from total to gold (in winter game medals).
< 1392423356 353946 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would probably be more fair to compare on the basis of golds/games attended
< 1392423487 806543 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Thomas Hicks (a Briton running for the United States) was the first to cross the finish-line legally, after having received several doses of strychnine sulfate (a common rat poison, which stimulates the nervous system in small doses) mixed with brandy from his trainers. He was supported by his trainers when he crossed the finish, but is still considered the winner."
< 1392423508 569595 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For the 1904 games' marathon.)
< 1392423555 16809 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1392423571 135296 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1904_Summer_Olympics#Marathon
< 1392423582 865842 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like the kind of thing they'd retroactively toss out of the record books
< 1392423584 725597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must've been kind of different event, back then.
< 1392423620 96222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well historically, you're _supposed_ to die after doing the marathon.
< 1392423625 695384 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also this bit: "A Cuban postman named Felix Carbajal joined the marathon, arriving at the last minute. He had to run in street clothes that he cut around the legs to make them look like shorts. He stopped off in an orchard en route to have a snack on some apples, which turned out to be rotten. The rotten apples caused him to have to lie down and take a nap. Despite falling ill from the apples ...
< 1392423631 788470 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... he finished in fourth place."
< 1392423654 993666 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's hilarious
< 1392423672 542275 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where were those games
< 1392423694 976806 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The participants totalled 651 athletes – 645 men and 6 women representing 12 countries. However, only 42 events (less than half) actually included athletes who were not from the United States."
< 1392423703 933064 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In St. Louis, Missouri.
< 1392423723 723439 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easy way to rack up those medals, I guess?
< 1392423767 825579 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ St. Louis organizers repeated the mistakes made at the 1900 Summer Olympics in Paris. Competitions were reduced to a side-show of the World's Fair and were lost in the chaos of other, more popular cultural exhibits. David R. Francis, the President of the Louisiana Purchase Exposition, declined to invite anybody else to open the Games and, on July 1 did so himself in a scaled-down short and ...
< 1392423773 838639 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... humdrum "ceremony". ]]
< 1392423776 339662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such humble beginnings.
< 1392423934 328690 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :augur
< 1392423942 114144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1392423982 911392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : and yeah, there are quite a few, but they all seem to misunderstand quantum computation <-- hm i vaguely thought we had at least one that used proper quantum gates
< 1392424175 358765 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum computing is already so esoteric it's hard to make an esolang out of it
< 1392424215 382598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : actual quantum computing is more like, you have all these threads, but only one of them, chosen at random, actually does anything <-- i am not entirely sure you're sufficiently less confused than the average programmer, here
< 1392424244 946325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I implemented a quantum computer simulator as an A-level project
< 1392424257 878369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, i guess that counts
< 1392424258 379514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ran Shor's algorithm on it
< 1392424269 903868 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew what you were getting at
< 1392424324 989424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well the next thing he said was about interference.
< 1392424333 324694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :without that it's a pretty incomplete description, yeah
< 1392424339 593839 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I was trying to fix the typical analogy that people use, rather than create a new one from scratch
< 1392424340 398814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1392424358 981230 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think whatsisname did a pretty good job of summarizing for the lay person. "You set up an entangled system to performs some computation on all answers simultaneously, such that the right is probabilistically amplified while all the wrong answers destructively interfere"
< 1392424368 849205 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*right answer
< 1392424383 238353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is that afair you cannot actually _distinguish_ threads that have the same outside visible result, which is the same as those that interfere with each other
< 1392424439 289893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so saying that any particular thread actually runs is slightly dubious in my mind.  although i guess the math works out.
< 1392424457 540882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we're getting into interpretation of QM territory :)
< 1392424469 538915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bring back zzo38 the neutral monist!
< 1392424470 869716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess
< 1392424474 652069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1392424498 766239 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zzo38's Neutral Monastery
< 1392424500 764469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that someone who allegedly know what they were talking about claimed that practical quantum computers would be proof of the many-worlds interpretation
< 1392424504 589941 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION applies to join
< 1392424514 339495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the basis that there wasn't enough computational power in the universe, thus the computation must extend through more than one
< 1392424536 152417 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems doubtful
< 1392424590 30742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my view seems to be heading towards the fundamentals being information and consciousness, which only partially correspond to matter and mind
< 1392424605 986116 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :Remove the stone of shame! Attach the stone of triumph! | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/
< 1392424629 674786 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia!
< 1392424639 498008 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good char siu evening!
< 1392424658 869633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still i'm not really monist because i don't see how information alone can be conscious, nor consciousness alone can have ordered experiences
< 1392424660 339491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what basis did they have for making an assertion about the amout of comput. power in the universe?
< 1392424698 44267 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think it was based on the volume of the universe and the theoretical maximum information storage density
< 1392424726 804287 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no that's wrong you're crazy hth
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< 1392424805 162976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: OKAY
< 1392424817 535158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: whatshisname = aaronson?
< 1392424852 163136 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it seems there could be a number of ways to store more information without requiring extra whole parallel universe. not that i'm opposed to the idea...
< 1392424855 182710 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes
< 1392425053 40926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i must be crazy i though aaronson treated that poor crackpot who challenged him to a P vs. NP bet the other day rather unnecessarily rudely.
< 1392425082 320832 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i missed it what happened
< 1392425246 652792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1687#comment-100407
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< 1392425378 272871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek it's shikhin's evil mirror twin
< 1392425379 766361 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: are you, in fact, a neutral monist?
< 1392425392 290796 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I think so.
< 1392425396 888076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a constructive proof of P=NP were discovered (e.g. P-time algo for 3-SAT), just how badly would it destroy the world?
< 1392425435 33827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: assuming the polynomial is also reasonably small, all public key crypto, *whoosh*
< 1392425437 842791 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, would we recover quickly from the death of all widely used crypto? would nothing happen because people fixed issues before it could be exploited? would the new algorithm lead to an eternal age of peace and prosperity?
< 1392425440 706484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, exactly
< 1392425475 11188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it would destroy public key crypto in _general_, unlike quantum computers (afaik)
< 1392425527 781772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may mix up things badly but not the destruction of the world. necessary. And maybe P=NP is untrue which means there is no valid proof (but maybe that, too, is unprovable).
< 1392425542 97827 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1392425542 317458 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1392425649 143779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might also put a dent in private key crypto that isn't truly unbreakable like one time pads
< 1392425669 761262 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly that too.
< 1392425761 511259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it might allow you to find by guessing which key gives the most readable decrypted message
< 1392425771 748393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that
< 1392425831 916533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this doesn't work for one time pad because then _all_ readable messages are given by some key)
< 1392425969 986963 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i read the thread. it didn't seem that bad to me.
< 1392426092 353635 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: crypto would recover if quantum crypto became readily available. however, all my BTC becomes worthless then, so let's hope it doesn't happen.
< 1392426172 797923 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of things become worthless if that happens
< 1392426180 938305 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus lots of your previous encrypted data is magically transparent
< 1392426187 103824 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cryptocalypse
< 1392426224 335053 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh i don't have much in the way of encrypted data i need to keep private
< 1392426420 958270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: hm i'm not meaning rude in an "insult with swear words" sense, but rude in a "doesn't try to understand that the other guy sees things differently (albeit insanely) and calls him dishonest if he doesn't live up demands he's never accepted" sense.
< 1392426440 813472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*up to
< 1392426540 289863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is that you bet $200k, keeping your confidence about the matter, but you have the choice of paying as low as one (1) US dollar, AND I have the right to refuse any amount above $1. I think that is clear. Let me know if you understand otherwise.
< 1392426544 456121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what.
< 1392426557 764004 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see it as him being a busy guy who does have time or mental energy to try to understand every crackpot he comes in contact with. he dismissed a potentially lengthy and fruitless comment thread in order to keep the SNR high for the rest of his readers.
< 1392426583 459753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well
< 1392426607 765122 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*doesn't
< 1392426624 265989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get that quote at all
< 1392426636 608715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok he doesn't have the best english either :P
< 1392426695 779955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even think of any interpretation of that that makes any sense at all
< 1392426777 452545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes perfect sense to me hth
< 1392426790 37156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if i don't try to assume the guy is rational, that is)
< 1392426839 879186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay but... well, fine
< 1392426843 693072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of dissatisfying as an answer
< 1392426864 756520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CANNOT IMAGINE WHY
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< 1392427067 516780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: thinking some more about this, i think he has strange ethical principles about betting large amounts of money, that conflict with other principles about making this a real bet, in an unresolved way.
< 1392427115 748757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why not just ask for a $1 bet, though?
< 1392427120 154465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scott seemed perfectly happy with that
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< 1392427702 706530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have two keyboards hooked up to this computer and i'm currently typing with one hand on each of them
< 1392427706 859531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of an odd sensation
< 1392427865 265053 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how fast can you double tap
< 1392427929 490310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well that wouldn't be a real bet, would it >:)
< 1392427930 946208 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26187725
< 1392427949 662242 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :watching bitcoiners realise that unregulated money is actually kind of awful is always heartwarming
< 1392428190 347111 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL
< 1392428190 974111 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 150100Z 26013G18KT 4SM -SN FEW030 BKN060 M05/M07 A2959 RMK SC2SC4 SLP020
< 1392428200 137469 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the -SN. it won't stop.
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< 1392428813 327282 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I wonder if trying to define lenses in Scheme is as silly as trying to define do notation in Scheme
< 1392429285 683394 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how well it'd work without the types
< 1392429301 642339 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd need a generic map, at the very least
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< 1392429414 412496 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need, or want?
< 1392429425 787775 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly want it for mapped/traverse, but...
< 1392429442 339210 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe Racket's map is generic across sequences but not all possible functors
< 1392429453 343227 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are you talking about the zipper with delimited continuation thing?
< 1392429472 239640 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK
< 1392429476 134265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1392429480 342258 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep *doing* it.
< 1392429510 245220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't you just pass the map function to the lens as an argument
< 1392429548 142449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that ruins lens composition = function composition, but scheme isn't big on the latter anyway, i think
< 1392429565 114601 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm completely ignoring lens composition = function composition
< 1392429568 942322 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't see the point
< 1392429583 584442 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a lens as a structure containing a getter and a modifier
< 1392429590 350238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.
< 1392429600 243911 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I have it have a setter too? Are there lens-like things that have setters but no modifiers?
< 1392429631 371361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm lens library's Setter is a modifier, anyway
< 1392429676 583136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: if you really don't see the point, then you really don't see the point of lens, which is composition with the subtyping hierarchy
< 1392429677 455547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's at the end of the hierarchy, so nothing weaker
< 1392429700 549489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you just want to define lenses then ok. (but they're boring)
< 1392429768 364846 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm kind of allowing the definition of lenses with no getter, although not in a particularly clean way (just causing composition to error if the composed lens's getter is attempted to be used)
< 1392429768 913251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I keep *doing* it. <-- i note he managed to accidentally evade your question, too
< 1392429776 839244 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really sure what other types of things there are :/
< 1392429842 125080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: have you looked at the diagram at http://hackage.haskell.org/package/lens
< 1392429853 592047 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... tried, once
< 1392429857 90233 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can try again
< 1392429861 731464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :traversals, lenses, prisms, isos are important
< 1392429877 601078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the weakened versions of those without setting too, to a lesser degree
< 1392429916 530057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm MonadicFold is that a bit new?
< 1392429916 719159 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have traversals covered (or, as well as can be given the lack of generic traverse), isos are stronger than lenses, aren't they? But I do want prisms, haven't given them enough thought
< 1392429934 479453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have traversals unless they compose with lenses
< 1392429939 542214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no
< 1392429973 449965 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference between a traversal and a setter?
< 1392429987 95707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1392429989 191854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, most everything
< 1392430085 664719 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should give some thought to attempting a van whatshisname based implementation
< 1392430151 494208 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Racket sucks enough at nested data structures that even lenses, by themselves, are interesting...
< 1392430152 764679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not possible in scheme
< 1392430171 334850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a proper type system with HKP and typeclasses (or else subtyping, maybe, possibly, if it's flexible enough)
< 1392430179 378519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1392430183 654354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else awful ugly runtime stuff I guess
< 1392430187 451284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't want to think about that
< 1392430209 89883 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HKP?
< 1392430255 964765 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I don't really get how typeclasses can be mandatory unless there are functions that need to be polymorphic on the return type. Racket does have generic functions
< 1392430258 451289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :higher-kinded polymorphism
< 1392430277 294596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I suggest you study the design of the lens library more. then you will be able to make your own judgements
< 1392430330 44987 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably a good idea
< 1392430331 954541 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1392430811 150957 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1392430943 490007 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3
< 1392430991 947809 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392431314 606262 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apply (compose1 compose1 curry) 
< 1392431323 973083 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At this point, I should probably just use a fold or something
< 1392431588 165118 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
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< 1392431784 133376 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :Guest16220
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< 1392432148 973031 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck YouTube and fuck the cloud
< 1392432160 919950 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My favorites list seems to have been truncated to 100
< 1392432174 3491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cloudy with a chance of fuck
< 1392432178 511561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392432180 804262 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bibleiocoin wadublecoin feetlecoin iastacoin chacoin oaicoin atlycoin pumcoin utquethesecoin laughcoin bibillcoin q-revacoin wtfzomecoin gritseifcoin yagecoin ementcoin biblecoin smasycoin lolangcoin optercoin
< 1392432239 516496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be on a scriptural streak
< 1392432273 600598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think wtfzomecoin could catch on
< 1392432473 373952 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the chess game of someone's dreaming:  8/3q4/6nk/4P1pp/8/2Q3K1/4B2P/8  Black to play.
< 1392432535 305646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this some known notation
< 1392432561 49763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is FFEN
< 1392432563 765851 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392432588 170198 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is several software to interpret it (including my own "TeX Chess"), or you can do it manually.
< 1392432812 737364 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1392435336 655667 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uppercase letter means white pieces, lowercase letter for black pieces, starting at the rank 8, given each row, each digit means that many vacant cells.
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< 1392435757 388557 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :Guest20309
< 1392436118 398931 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think this discussion would interest you http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/1xw70y/tls12/
< 1392436317 47748 :Guest20309!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :augur_
< 1392436371 140548 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392436372 597604 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ballfroilcoin frabcoin korbcoin zoppcoin piecescoin lazacoin veicoin x-dcoin regocoin sendiecoin squatrovincoin cyclocoin eodecoin quatrestkindcoin gyptcoin chonalcoin lyapaschcoin anocoin chroucoin tingcoin
< 1392436928 808769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that thing which lets you make $0.000000078 per hour from your website visitors by making their browsers mine bitcoin is about to get sued in New Jersey http://tech.mit.edu/V134/N4/abelson.html
< 1392437242 443634 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was actually deployed?
< 1392437271 683552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know
< 1392437307 533449 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am starting to appreciate Haskell's curried by default more
< 1392437328 487013 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also wish Racket had less... insane curry function
< 1392437330 663411 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And uncurry
< 1392437885 745822 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1392437941 426536 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :curry is a good default
< 1392438514 101669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :currywurst is a good default
< 1392438550 471861 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wish I could bring rudybot in here so I could complain about curry
< 1392438787 247648 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :((curry f) a b c) will NOT call f (and instead return a curry) unless the max num of arguments is reached. (((curry f) a b c) d) WILL call f unless the minimum number of arguments hasn't been reached
< 1392439057 118658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I keep hearing that ZRH is very expensive.
< 1392439437 728672 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392439886 246231 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon
< 1392440059 701100 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what is this 'cut' everyone talks about?
< 1392440152 595254 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean the 'cut' move in Pokemon, or something else?
< 1392440258 89335 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 'cut' move in Pokemon
< 1392440285 37976 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a HM move, which can be used in or outside of battle. Outside of battle, it can cut some trees, and can cut grass too.
< 1392440297 400928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They will grow back if you leave the area)
< 1392440334 9359 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it fairly simple to get?
< 1392440361 298951 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need an HM, a Pokemon capable of learning it, and I think you need a gym badge too.
< 1392440361 984468 :password2!~password@197.78.173.164 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392440363 80410 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not as easy as ... saving ... appears to be
< 1392440642 116900 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that explain it?
< 1392440775 72987 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392440864 186705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you explain this behavior:
< 1392440879 961768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gremlins!
< 1392440888 156026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ echo $'a O\nai P' | sort
< 1392440888 383080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ai P
< 1392440888 383247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a O
< 1392440906 42229 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :with LANG=C sort it sorts the other way
< 1392440921 240159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what is the locale?
< 1392440922 424566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then set LANG=C
< 1392440934 28553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact LANG=C should *always* be the default
< 1392440935 643523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you en_US.UTF-8
< 1392440943 261874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/if you //
< 1392440955 622930 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always set LANG=C when working on UNIX systems
< 1392440965 865415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run LANG=en_US.UTF-8 echo $'a O\nai P' | sort
< 1392440966 509403 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ai P \ a O
< 1392440985 106677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run LANG=en_US.UTF-8 echo $'a O\nax P' | sort
< 1392440985 629536 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a O \ ax P
< 1392441018 404600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run LANG=en_US.UTF-8 echo $'a O\nai N' | sort
< 1392441019 58245 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ai N \ a O
< 1392441030 526335 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem!
< 1392441034 977979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1392441044 2805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run LANG=en_US.UTF-8 echo $'a Q\nai P' | sort
< 1392441044 638072 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ai P \ a Q
< 1392441050 926863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run LANG=en_US.UTF-8 echo $'a A\nai B' | sort
< 1392441051 506421 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a A \ ai B
< 1392441074 294765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it ignores space
< 1392441104 705280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1392441115 318498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's much simpler than the theories i was trying to come up with
< 1392441122 87167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see the problem, it sorts _precisely_ like [[Language_list]] hth
< 1392441225 27039 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx tdh hand
< 1392441233 399489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw hand
< 1392441243 278219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps a more versatile sorting system would allow two inputs so one is used as the sort key. (For example, the other input could be generated using sed)
< 1392441260 306006 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need 'cut' to get past a certain point in the game right
< 1392441267 861914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as 'surf' and maybe some others
< 1392441268 50975 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a UNIX pipe doesn't take two inputs.
< 1392441281 351356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, you need 'cut' and 'surf', at least.
< 1392441298 875585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you have any chess variant based on pokemon
< 1392441300 616182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which game is this
< 1392441312 379598 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Pokemon game.
< 1392441354 714813 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I once tried making some shogi variant involving pokemon somehow, but never completed it.
< 1392442174 66534 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1392442468 370597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it depends on which Pokémon game you're talking about
< 1392442752 188021 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dynamic scope is... tempting, as a solution to how to fake typeclasses
< 1392442772 897408 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would need to provide the scoping at each time the lens is used, but...
< 1392442777 933520 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, the parameter's value
< 1392442976 787345 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, I like the game of Pokemon Card, anyways; I don't have large amount of interests in the other game
< 1392443303 147932 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1392443385 121774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1392444172 630377 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdsdsdsdsd
< 1392444896 703861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392444898 241393 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumpingcoin allothesscoin lestolcoin dumbscoptocoin jumecoin taxianuiardingybilitategrougheficcoin albolcoin pseudcoin infursumamcoin podanguagcriptcoin byterchacoin concallcoin chicoin barbicoin resophyrcoin schesircoin chulgcoin tamploicoin percacoin greecoin
< 1392445008 438751 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --german 20 | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g'
< 1392445009 797572 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spezimcoin chaftensionencoin irchsmaßnahmercoin sonszusaticoin bungenencoin ivissessignifischecoin utmachofsencoin wischaldwirtsortcoin sterncoin cograrbecoin aufendescoin selcoin munischenagelcoin dasstatincoin gigenbegleichtcoin faktentmarocoin safroncoin geweichencoin vorschulspasthigkeitcoin hetendorkcoin
< 1392445132 612145 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you have non-ASCII letters in it!
< 1392445312 751201 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392445419 140029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true
< 1392445475 183893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheißecoin
< 1392445631 521531 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What verb means, making someone else sleeping?
< 1392445765 979771 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleepificating
< 1392445787 476458 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a real word?
< 1392446175 639076 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am trying to calculate a probablility of a deck winning/losing against a "59eye1Mewtwo" deck.
< 1392446199 749045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it isn't a real word
< 1392446211 568410 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Then what is the proper word?
< 1392446217 961102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure
< 1392446224 186895 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right
< 1392446225 674451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sedate"
< 1392446227 929295 :password2!~password@197.78.173.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to put someone to sleep
< 1392446233 398910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not exactly right, but pretty close
< 1392446245 176601 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1392446250 376437 :password2!~password@197.78.173.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sedate implies some force though
< 1392446287 428956 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kinds of force?
< 1392446303 18808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: not necessarily, it could also involve sleeping pills or similar
< 1392446443 104717 :password2!~password@197.78.173.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which still is some force manner
< 1392446516 213003 :password2!~password@197.78.173.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your forcing the person to sleep 
< 1392446528 468463 :password2!~password@197.78.173.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are not going to sleep naturaly
< 1392446655 368963 :password2!~password@197.78.173.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sedate does not always imply sleep too
< 1392446667 246015 :password2!~password@197.78.173.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :languages suck
< 1392446701 804102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least it's a real word :-(
< 1392446710 763156 :password2!~password@197.78.173.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe
< 1392446723 724923 :password2!~password@197.78.173.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also say you tuck someone in
< 1392446740 972023 :password2!~password@197.78.173.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on what you want to say obviously
< 1392446835 129526 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to say to make them to sleep even if they would not ordinarily to do so in such a daytime.
< 1392446854 105585 :password2!~password@197.78.173.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah , then sedate is mote apt
< 1392446855 6603 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tire"? that means "to make tired", which also isn't quite the same
< 1392446867 890051 :password2!~password@197.78.173.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*more
< 1392446868 424387 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, probably "sedate" is OK
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< 1392448818 281829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A deck consisting of fifty-nine basic energy plus BULBASAUR [Lv15] is *guaranteed* to beat a deck consisting of fifty-nine basic energy plus MEWTWO [Lv53], even though the latter is OK in many cases (but less than 50%), and the former is pretty bad in general.
< 1392448852 83732 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can give you the card texts if you want them.
< 1392448854 603654 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the bulbasaur have some protection from paralysis?
< 1392448867 493666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, it's usual to say the species and set that the card comes from, rather than species and level
< 1392448870 559419 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No, but MEWTWO [Lv53] doesn't paralyze.
< 1392448872 779696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because species/level can be ambiguous sometimes
< 1392448878 719315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, just blocks damage
< 1392448896 882565 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It is ambiguous only with the newer sets, not in the original game, which is the only one I am considering.
< 1392448923 758097 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And, species/set can be ambiguous too, but only with some sets)
< 1392448989 523110 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :BULBASAUR [Lv15] has 5 HP and the following two attacks:  - { * } RECOVER: Remove one damage from this card.  - { % } POISON SEED: Defending pokemon card is poisoned.
< 1392449023 822070 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEWTWO [Lv53] has 6 HP and the attacks:  - { @* } PSYCHIC [1+]: Add 1 damage per energy card attached to opponent's active pokemon card.  - { @@ } BARRIER: You must discard one energy card attached to this card in order to use this attack. All effects of attacks (including damage) that affect this card are prevented during opponent's next turn.
< 1392449031 46831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you see how it works?
< 1392449033 245034 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the poison effect beats mewtwo
< 1392449046 522156 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before it can get Barrier in place
< 1392449078 499988 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, the poison by itself isn't quite enough.
< 1392449098 839214 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are three other cards that can guarantee poison on first turn, but none of them are good enough.
< 1392449121 315018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I think the Mewtwo wins
< 1392449124 956431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just uses Psychic
< 1392449151 903905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did consider that, and that is why WEEDLE [Lv15] and ODDISH [Lv21] lose.
< 1392449181 768336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mewtwo does 20 (or 2 with your notation) damage per turn: 10, plus 10 for the Grass energy that Bulbasaur attaches to be able to use Poison Seed
< 1392449195 520823 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but you can recover!
< 1392449236 510552 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, poison does 20 per turn, doesn't it
< 1392449238 30699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 10
< 1392449243 218162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it triggers on both players' turns
< 1392449252 614722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it triggers on both player's turn.
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< 1392449349 767741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now hopefully you can understand it.
< 1392449408 497232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the thing about that mewtwo deck is, why not use four mewtwo rather than one?
< 1392449445 68609 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you lose the ability to attach energy on the turn you play a mewtwo, but the opponent probably can't oneshot it
< 1392449448 947172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can get back to the same situation again
< 1392449485 55781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it may sometimes work, but not always, and anyways that isn't the original deck.
< 1392449519 497233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to actually get the second one in time. If you do, then yes it works, in this case.
< 1392449563 786785 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, having four Mewtwo cards makes it worse against some other decks (those with GUST OF WIND, for example).
< 1392449573 172627 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right
< 1392449598 93882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they actually reprinted Gust of Wind recently, as Pokémon Catcher
< 1392449608 424012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was one of the best cards legal in only-recent-cards-are-allowed games
< 1392449655 262345 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, although I am considering only the original game. Yes it is a pretty good card.
< 1392449668 897193 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the care and feeding of lenses"
< 1392449672 612065 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This amuses me for some reason
< 1392449696 284599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's better nowadays because people play so many Pokémon that have low HP but good effects from the bench
< 1392449701 95850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and try to never let them become active
< 1392449896 239982 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1392449995 37114 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, would I need to allow arbitrary Applicatives, or can I allow merely Identity, Const, and ... others specifically needed for lenses?
< 1392450020 574482 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like the new game much, and play the old one in either "cube constructed" format (there is a list of valid cards, and you can include up to four of any of them), or "cube draft" format (a bunch of cards are mixed up and drafted; you may then take any of them plus any number of basic energy cards to make a 60-card deck, and rules for evolution are a bit less strict).
< 1392450029 414959 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But mostly I like the Pokemon card puzzles.
< 1392450083 758781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can make up any, please show to me; I like to see it, too.
< 1392450232 617569 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: You are allowed to include cards you do not own any copies of. This is the difference from the standard format.)
< 1392450324 84309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to find that the tactics involved in Pokemon card (at least the original game) are extremely positional.
< 1392450362 651002 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if you (or anyone else) agree/disagree with this statement.
< 1392451205 972424 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Magic: the Gathering card puzzle too. Do you know how to buy that book?
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< 1392451598 790463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually use GUST OF WIND defensively, unless I can win on the same turn.
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< 1392453533 397188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did anyone ever, in a game of chess, checkmate with a en passan move?
< 1392453786 729738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't, at least
< 1392453799 757601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible but the conditions that can do it are very contrived
< 1392454227 704526 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I believe that
< 1392454427 932332 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen a chess puzzle involving checkmate by en passan.
< 1392454627 409373 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This should be easy to search for
< 1392454637 651965 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :?4 ?x?3#
< 1392454638 43840 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? .
< 1392454721 205064 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :A rarer checkmate move might be O-O-O#
< 1392454866 745381 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-117.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392454886 576413 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I cannot find an online database that allows searching by move
< 1392454891 944069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that is easier to search for if you have a PGN file
< 1392454925 712401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to have a database of chess games in SQL format; it could bein PGN, and I could then write a program to convert it into SQL so that it can be queried.
< 1392455066 84854 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The SQL could also be used to calculate statistics.)
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< 1392455554 520247 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is an easy retroanalysis problem (at least to me it is; I have solved it; apparently "everybody has already seen" it, but I haven't): 6b1/7p/8/8/8/8/8/K1k5. What did White just play?
< 1392455660 640777 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I downloaded this list of 37000 tournament games, and there are 300 checkmates in it
< 1392455667 674995 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck chess
< 1392455738 656611 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also there are gems like 41.g6 Nxe3 42.g7# Qxg7 43.Rxg7 Kxg7
< 1392455827 668242 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? Is that a typing error?
< 1392455859 310537 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: nice
< 1392456095 105768 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, it turned out to be a typo
< 1392456100 230873 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: What tournaments are they, and what time periods?
< 1392456123 344736 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I thought it must be a typo, since it can't be anything else
< 1392456151 744507 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/pgn/
< 1392456253 481435 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without downloading them I don't know what time-periods/tournaments; do you know which ones are in the files *you* downloaded? (I don't even know which file you downloaded, either)
< 1392456277 899722 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I downloaded all of them
< 1392456283 46675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if it's Black's move, Ka1 (from a2); if it's White's move, Ka1 (from b1), then Black played Kc1 in response
< 1392456291 320798 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I don't know which file it is in either
< 1392456295 1478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I'm missing something
< 1392456323 758209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the Ka1 if it's Black's move captures a knight that just gave discovered check
< 1392456327 45349 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Well, do you know what time periods they span?
< 1392456328 46505 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably the thing you're meant to work out
< 1392456355 999791 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, that is my solution too; the king moved from a2 to a1, capturing a knight.
< 1392456574 761720 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh jeez
< 1392456586 103275 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone discovered a 549-move 7-piece endgame
< 1392456636 858791 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Really? What is that one?
< 1392456656 601978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have the FEN or PGN?
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< 1392456661 318733 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/chess2/diary.htm
< 1392456890 751606 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"These extreme positions are the outposts, the Everests or Mariana Trenches of chess’ state space: they should be hailed, visited and contemplated not only because they are there but because the lines from them can perhaps be analysed and explained in terms of some chessic principles." it's official: i don't get chess
< 1392457261 440299 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://codepad.org/Yl4yEnxW I cut off some of the games and put 1/2-1/2 at the end
< 1392457290 675519 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of them seem to be due to very confused players thinking that their move was a mate
< 1392457306 251958 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, no actual mates
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< 1392457646 322832 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Line 191 contradicts line 199.
< 1392457721 48965 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is one of the games that were cut off
< 1392457962 117465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did it get cut off?
< 1392458053 814321 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used egrep -A1
< 1392458091 188754 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not expect lengthy continuations after a mate to be that frequent
< 1392458226 330458 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK
< 1392458450 381480 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I _think_ that explicit rewriting macros make it easier than syntax-case to deliberately have an unhygienic symbol exposed at the ultimate use site, even when a macro has emitted a macro call. I am not certain whether this is a point in favor or against either system
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< 1392460018 180675 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that scenario sounds quite.... esoteric
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< 1392466996 192242 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: chessic principles sounds like something someone would say if they've never tinkered with a combinatorial problem other than chess, and they've tinkered with way too much chess.
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< 1392467061 249674 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i just don't get chess
< 1392467173 123675 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i mean how can you think that a combinatorial accident that severe in a game where each piece pretty much follows its own rules is guided by a "principle"
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< 1392467292 386133 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so, you like chess variations, do you think the usual rules are somehow particularly optimal? like, say i take two pieces in the starting position and exchange them, will you get a worse game for any pair, or will it usually be just chess?
< 1392467347 748651 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps at least exchanging a soldier with something will lead to a more aggressive game (or something stupid)
< 1392467548 750439 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*pawn)
< 1392467897 391843 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to go on the wiki and post things that are obvious formatting and policy errors more often. if i don't give oerjan something to fix, the wiki goes whole days without anything happening at all!
< 1392467995 268597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could add all the italics back into the BF Joust article so we can revert it back to the current formatting
< 1392468002 982432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: don't actually do that)
< 1392468032 840994 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was italicized? i don't remember
< 1392468085 261382 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like italics. i think it improves readability when used on variable names
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< 1392468311 935158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember either, random sentences / part of sentences, I think
< 1392468373 824748 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes when i'm writing something i feel like using italics
< 1392468383 345213 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i realize it looks silly
< 1392468393 557507 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i use it anyway
< 1392468397 224067 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then later i remove it
< 1392468430 537325 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean if it's really important you want to emphasize it
< 1392468457 690826 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should use colors instead
< 1392468475 242541 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :try bangs! they are great for emphasis! and if the info is surprising, try interrobangs too!
< 1392468488 880517 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 50 different shades of gray that tell you how erotic the sentence is
< 1392468579 131540 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392468584 259227 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :black on black = "so hardcore, we had to turn the lights off while it was happening to save our sanity"
< 1392468629 930631 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :00super secksy; highlight at your own risk!
< 1392468656 294338 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :01your mom
< 1392468666 657168 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly
< 1392468717 78331 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :0,0ono someone died at climax
< 1392468751 889231 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :exposionnnnnnnn
< 1392468755 553112 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,1don't worry, it was your uncle, not your mom
< 1392468762 334414 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank
< 1392468762 809048 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :god
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< 1392473368 108559 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So anyway
< 1392473380 759152 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am wondering about making a quantum computin' esolang
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< 1392473390 538337 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe using 2+1 D quantum fields
< 1392473470 766233 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly some Befunge like structure
< 1392473545 770688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even "regular" quantum programs are an esolang
< 1392473562 416082 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows
< 1392473569 277504 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe in the future, they won't be~
< 1392473578 624670 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :High school kids will learn about quantum java
< 1392473623 406515 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And quantum php
< 1392473690 990845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm wondering whether to hope quantum PHP is never invented
< 1392473698 961424 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to hope that it is invented so I can see what sort of disaster it is
< 1392473706 461512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll go for "invented, but nobody uses it"
< 1392473724 183889 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you crash it it will destroy the entire universe!
< 1392473749 590425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah__: the destroy_the_universe function is implemented so as to be able to quantum bogosort, I take it?
< 1392473759 165035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also because the name's long enough to avoid hash collisions
< 1392473760 817787 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would certainly be nice
< 1392473776 256525 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantum bogosort sounds like a good test program for my quantum computer
< 1392473790 148502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(PHP's original hash function was mostly based on strlen)
< 1392473797 137534 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a quantum befunge kind of thing would go well with my recent learning of object oriented things
< 1392473849 210992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge is OO?
< 1392473862 94662 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but I can't be arsed to write it entirely in C
< 1392473929 418671 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll just try some particle beams, quantum gates and detectors
< 1392474371 396848 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I wonder if I can also work in some less artificial quantum states
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< 1392474383 737308 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like just defining an actual wavefunction in a box
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< 1392475305 782363 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :every instruction gives a superposition of 2-10 types of undefined behavior
< 1392475368 362006 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually know if php is notorious for undefined behavior; instead, perhaps the instructions give a superposition of different behavior just because they provide so many built-in functions they run out of words
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< 1392484950 535561 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol_: exactly
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< 1392489810 334226 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racketers are having trouble understanding fmap not in terms of 'elements'
< 1392489817 206973 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of a sequence
< 1392490014 413416 :nys!~nys@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn racketers
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< 1392490763 596029 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Racket doesn't have a fmap that works on, say, functions?
< 1392490877 820694 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many non-Haskell languages do you know provide a generic map that is as generic as Haskell's fmap?
< 1392490911 470066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scala prolly
< 1392490913 837928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392490915 654900 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeicoin arbokucoin unreacoin thisesocoin haylcoin wakecoin nahcoin @!coin regxcoin limbcoin catemprocoin impcoin bulocoin pouilcoin symespeaseacoin nancoin ver2coin mailcoin fanjcoin treadacoin
< 1392490930 456387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nancoin
< 1392490962 353333 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: person tried to derive count based on fmap. When I asked what happens when used on a function, they said that fmap should not be lazy
< 1392490969 92754 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racket logs are public
< 1392490980 906637 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : (fmap f c) should call f over every element in c before returning
< 1392490981 95972 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : if it doesn't and calls f later, f may be called in a different dynamic environment
< 1392490981 284858 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : for certain functions this would change the behavior, i.e. one that wrote to standard out
< 1392490995 985277 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is after I attempted to describe fmap)
< 1392491024 561249 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's count?
< 1392491034 444055 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same as length, but generic?
< 1392491045 202007 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't do that with fmap
< 1392491070 851290 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be e.g., not i.e.. that's what's important here
< 1392491073 189735 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: e tried to, by passing fmap a function to imperatively update a variable
< 1392491260 317220 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 945
< 1392491260 920193 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 945: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily
< 1392491509 550328 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, I somehow forgot to read 944 entirely
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< 1392492281 874532 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol_: This is a late response, but I don't know if the standard starting position of chess is optimal or not. You can play with random setups if you like.
< 1392492352 927398 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm half convinced that the whole functor thing is kind of a red herring
< 1392492490 886730 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol qntm now has a new comment box that basically tells you the answer for the hint
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< 1392493292 442270 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon
< 1392493330 505688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist, more like whoalist
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< 1392494097 747032 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: indeed
< 1392494098 573687 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1392494113 767569 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wikitravel.org/en/Hell_%28Hades%29
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< 1392495446 211064 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1392496799 317172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the SEP article on neutral monism is quite long
< 1392496805 276945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't quite understand why there are so many things to say about it
< 1392496811 593692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess this is what philosophers do for a living, though
< 1392496820 326869 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, I think so.
< 1392496846 173936 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why, I can understand that philosophy can involve a lot of things to say about something.
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< 1392496862 911835 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, there really is many things to say about it, but also many things to think about it, too!
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< 1392499524 850074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392499526 447554 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dotercoin shakercoin libergeomcoin polispcoin cobullcoin cusiccoin parnecoin closopcoin aawacoin ballecoin deliticoin sockcoin oftcoin adgoibcoin ylolmcoin toadsknowellocoin foberwmcoin lesscoin gingcoin ycoin
< 1392499549 345588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neutralmonismcoin
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< 1392501330 531610 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai pplz
< 1392501355 924159 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION programs his calculator
< 1392501391 2101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi JWinslow23
< 1392501405 433385 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, kmc
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< 1392501415 688344 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been a while since I've been here last.
< 1392501421 254512 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, last year?
< 1392501513 526925 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey JWinslow23.
< 1392501526 373425 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, tswett.
< 1392501569 639206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: grep says you visited briefly on 2014-01-12.
< 1392501583 678099 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Before that, 2013-10-30.)
< 1392501587 644788 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not for an esoteric distussion.
< 1392501590 674994 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cussion
< 1392501626 559454 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a calculator programming discussion, apparently.
< 1392501644 750495 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, to tell you all that I'm going off the grid.
< 1392501648 61412 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And onto another.
< 1392501655 656778 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, I'm just bored, is all.
< 1392501667 559265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you've joined ##calculators, then. (Disclaimer: channel might not exist.)
< 1392501672 17608 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, what were the bots we had here, anyway?
< 1392501679 841272 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, #omnimaga.
< 1392501681 222269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's fungot.
< 1392501681 420612 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and that's another matter) still have souls! cvs: there is a source file, so that we know about the
< 1392501684 635024 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://omnomirc.www.omnimaga.org/
< 1392501718 868683 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fungot? Really? A close-paren without an open one?
< 1392501733 643893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is above matching parentheses
< 1392501733 833231 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i.. i ended up with fun round-trips to uucp-land like this on unix: celibacy. what useful protection! how nice to find a way
< 1392501739 167694 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Perl version balances punctuation. (For the Funge-98 version, it's still on the TODO list.)
< 1392501755 412046 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, huh?
< 1392501755 600943 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: now how did that once and then come here to talk very much like c.
< 1392501767 282317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes
< 1392501767 471155 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, jconn ) , blsqbot !
< 1392501784 980514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A couple of those aren't present, though.
< 1392501789 44395 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quine
< 1392501816 936853 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know HackEgo is here; y u no quine?
< 1392501819 525219 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/hackenv/bin/quine: 2: cd: can't cd to /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ ls: cannot access ????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory
< 1392501835 638474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's having some... issues, related to a server move.
< 1392501841 368476 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Missing the logs, for one thing.
< 1392501868 350554 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`define quine `quine
< 1392501869 216414 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to connect to socket 2. \  \ Looking up 127.0.0.1:3128 \ Making HTTP connection to 127.0.0.1:3128 \ Sending HTTP request. \ HTTP request sent; waiting for response. \ Alert!: Unexpected network read error; connection aborted. \ Can't Access `http://google.com/search?q=define:%71%75%69%6e%65%20%60%71%75%69%6e%65' \ Alert!: Unable to access do
< 1392501890 338552 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run paste `which define`
< 1392501891 151816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip//hackenv/bin/define
< 1392501895 977517 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`type define
< 1392501896 571839 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: type: not found
< 1392501902 783710 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run type define
< 1392501903 491945 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :define is /hackenv/bin/define
< 1392501924 892714 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the "use Google to define a word" thing, also broken due to the web proxy not being in place.
< 1392501930 997185 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1392501938 623927 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I wanna define a command.
< 1392501989 316966 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is unix
< 1392502022 394813 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd probably write a script in bin/x, then. But I'm not sure replacing bin/quine would be necessary, I'm sure the logs will come back some day.
< 1392502041 39578 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome
< 1392502041 782147 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
< 1392502072 153688 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`JWinslow23
< 1392502072 770840 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: JWinslow23: not found
< 1392502094 198106 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I used to be "someone who doesn't give a BF" at one point.
< 1392502131 17012 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bc
< 1392502131 454124 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? JWinslow23
< 1392502131 643413 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's part of the learndb thing.
< 1392502132 95468 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23 is a Wisconsinite who doesn't give a BF.
< 1392502147 489202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quine
< 1392502148 244841 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quine
< 1392502154 339613 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1392502161 479733 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1392502163 848338 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That still works.
< 1392502177 95588 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uname -a
< 1392502177 792181 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux umlbox 3.13.0-umlbox #1 Wed Jan 29 12:56:45 UTC 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux
< 1392502179 565552 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn JWinslow23 is not here.
< 1392502181 237659 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that.
< 1392502181 460530 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /proc/self/uid_map
< 1392502182 76349 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /proc/self/uid_map: No such file or directory
< 1392502191 529855 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? JWinslow23
< 1392502192 256107 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23 is not here.
< 1392502198 355404 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: HEY, PUT USER NAMESPACES ON HackEgo RIGHT THE FUCK IMMEDIATELY thanks
< 1392502225 469443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we need to be yelling
< 1392502231 610359 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1392502238 957053 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The places where 'the fuck' could be used continues to surprise me
< 1392502239 452450 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES.
< 1392502242 463122 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, no.
< 1392502250 154932 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL CAPS IS A VIRTUE.
< 1392502257 726676 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD.
< 1392502319 465632 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O NOES!
< 1392502378 902184 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: well, I guess the fuck it is an expletive.
< 1392502400 364713 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course the fuck, you can't just stick it anywhere.
< 1392502405 728017 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You f****** said it, ya f*****.
< 1392502430 764888 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you put it before the fuck *any* stressed word?
< 1392502432 61643 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you said the f*** it.
< 1392502441 474875 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks the fuck like no.
< 1392502443 634151 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The f*** YES!
< 1392502488 604036 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can put the fuck it after any verb. Nope. But you the fuck can say "Maybe you can put it the fuck after any verb".
< 1392502504 121565 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fuck before any prepositional phrase, perhaps?
< 1392502514 722958 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img.ourl.ca/TwitterGrammarCheck1
< 1392502518 91068 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I've seen a blog post about this..
< 1392502519 689049 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I have the ability to go through time, I suddenly remembered while the fuck at a bus stop the fuck near a tree."
< 1392502532 905924 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean:
< 1392502533 635238 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img.ourl.ca/TwitterGrammarCheck1.png
< 1392502586 296192 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I wonder what my h*** is?"
< 1392502595 137756 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1392502610 348517 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right, http://douglemoine.com/english-sentences-without-overt-grammatical-subjects/
< 1392502613 882007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh
< 1392502614 557159 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Thanks, @PurpleNewBlack
< 1392502614 918583 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :there it is
< 1392502784 53751 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, gotta go.
< 1392502791 514617 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See ya!
< 1392502898 383315 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evening
< 1392503563 908522 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392504063 855429 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392504096 69864 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.kickstarter.com/blog/important-kickstarter-security-notice he he
< 1392504659 78339 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1392504911 695307 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392505416 870189 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My copy of Purely Functional Data Structures arrived :D
< 1392505563 743926 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1392506452 669777 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1392506483 321642 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392506489 328487 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392506668 139779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392506880 218496 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392507080 610271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : <-- well since an impure language cannot really distinguish between the haskell concepts "fmap" and "traverse in the IO monad", he probably can, in a sense.
< 1392507084 783623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1392507094 982221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : *  FreeFull: e tried to, by passing fmap a function to imperatively update a variable
< 1392507104 965517 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna traverse the fuck out of this shit
< 1392507145 274528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ \*/*+/
< 1392507183 854474 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan. did i miss anything good when my server hung?
< 1392507240 254381 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It feels wrong though ):
< 1392507254 588169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: THAT'S IMPURE LANGUAGES FOR YOU
< 1392507264 359107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no idea, i just joined
< 1392507268 3850 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :death to the impure
< 1392507409 42170 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : /* this function traverses in the io monad */
< 1392507413 855656 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine doing the same in Haskell with unsafePerformIO
< 1392507425 224937 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have to sequence all the elements of the list though
< 1392507434 876489 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good
< 1392507453 812925 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously nothing interesting happened before you arrived
< 1392507461 520786 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which requires a fold anyway
< 1392507483 760343 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you'd need a generic Foldable anyway, and by that point a non-pure solution doesn't make sense anyway
< 1392507505 604083 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : /* this is a join for a monoid in the category of endofunctors */
< 1392507514 532045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well you're not subscribed to the `olist anyway
< 1392507572 406672 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. is that all that happened?
< 1392507581 449351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's as far as i've got yet
< 1392507610 900269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sense a significant number of further log lines in the scrollbar, though
< 1392507667 1096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why i am i speaking like vaarsuvius
< 1392507701 816309 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392508345 108329 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392508482 920251 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you haven't comitted familicide recently, have you?
< 1392508988 269723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i remember.
< 1392509567 693970 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?type safePerformIO
< 1392509568 526056 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `safePerformIO'
< 1392509719 998326 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :?let safePerformIO :: IO a -> IO a; safePerformIO = id
< 1392509721 561157 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1392509982 897789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :saferPerformIO :: IO a -> IO (IO a)
< 1392509989 306955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :safestPerformIO :: IO a -> Fix IO
< 1392510018 694078 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :discussing haskell on an esoteric languages channel... seems legit ;-)
< 1392510032 260820 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :unperformIO
< 1392510068 799254 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fix IO is a good type
< 1392510076 585979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome blotter 
< 1392510077 738783 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :08blotter: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02irc.dal.net.)
< 1392510863 827660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like the drought here will finally end tomorrow
< 1392510871 405373 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :jafet: safePerformIO :: IO a -> IO a; safePerformIO = unsafeCoerce
< 1392510974 703855 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafePerformState :: State s a -> a
< 1392510979 233503 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :genericSafePerformIO :: IO a -> IO b
< 1392511107 739358 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t forever
< 1392511108 752376 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => m a -> m b
< 1392511227 352360 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: is it good for something, or just good in general?
< 1392511235 329825 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :just good in general!
< 1392511245 390271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Free IO is more useful
< 1392511247 603028 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should write a library for dealing with it
< 1392511253 353799 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft, that one's boring
< 1392511275 644643 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?let kindaSafeIO :: IO (IO a) -> IO a; kindaSafeIO = join
< 1392511276 635300 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1392511286 356103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :forever' :: Fix IO -> IO b
< 1392511343 742716 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :forever? i hardly know'er!
< 1392511358 834900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: let's go with Cofree IO then
< 1392511366 970923 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :)
< 1392511457 456008 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cofree IE IO
< 1392511516 176669 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392511589 609712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free Coffee
< 1392511877 460502 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1392512069 707376 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1392512101 479200 :nys!~nys@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit
< 1392512194 923875 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cofree IO would have one response and then the IO action which can continue, to give you another Cofree IO, so you can stop in between each step.
< 1392512663 936077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1392512722 341482 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt that a continuation?
< 1392512738 907178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think, not quite
< 1392512787 396218 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a generator
< 1392512808 89552 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes, perhaps that is what it is more like.
< 1392512809 983090 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a state machine
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< 1392517131 597469 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering the usage pattern of functors in lens, would it be so terrible to have a container that also contained the fmap function to use on it?
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< 1392517833 120369 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: If you implement lenses as a setter and getter, you don't need fmap at all
< 1392517875 273018 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: but then how do I implement prisms, and can I even implement traversals?
< 1392517904 745315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is what I did at first, implement a lens as a setter and getter, although at the time I didn't know any other way and also didn't know it was called a "lens".
< 1392517929 93193 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Not sure, figure it out
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< 1392518664 642605 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well hello oerjan, thanks
< 1392518707 222362 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone here have any more information on Feather than the wiki provides?
< 1392518798 153314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for ais523 who refuses to talk about it, not much.
< 1392518895 207527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there may be something hidden in the logs, unfortunately our bot-based search of them has broken.
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< 1392519697 379094 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :k
< 1392519883 723142 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I also feel like van Laarhoven lenses can help me avoid making mistakes, like having a lens be a pair of setter+getter instead of modifier+getter
< 1392519903 721560 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the former, modify would be in terms of set+get, but I don't want to force the existence of get
< 1392519913 343075 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I handled that, but I don't know what else I may be missing
< 1392520035 548660 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Well, you can always implement set in terms of just modify, so you should go with that
< 1392520046 993496 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: and that's what I did do
< 1392520055 974980 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not sure what other pitfalls I have to be careful of
< 1392520072 766897 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if there are any data structures for which set would make sense but modify wouldn't
< 1392520107 244782 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if there are some, then modify wouldn't be used except as a "const" function anyways.
< 1392520241 85477 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose a data structure which doesn't actually store a value would qualify
< 1392520329 65837 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want prisms to exist, I think. Not sure if I need traversals
< 1392520342 783597 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mapped already exists in terms of my getter/modifier pair
< 1392520361 816475 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So  data Phantom a = Phantom
< 1392520515 874226 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modify for that would have to use bottom in Haskell, and in a strict language, I don't know what it'd do
< 1392520529 80622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: um no, modify works perfectly well
< 1392520552 82124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just happens never to call the function to modify with
< 1392520606 449620 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, I suppose that'd work
< 1392520620 943939 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like map with an empty list
< 1392520656 694605 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, nevermind
< 1392520669 184548 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of a data structure for which set is valid but modify isn't
< 1392520691 706002 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1392521674 835323 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should continue attempting to write my struct-lens macro
< 1392521688 662823 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if I change implementations later, the macro would still be useful
< 1392521761 140460 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The funny thing is, I know how to write modify but not get
< 1392521936 267330 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392522362 773776 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That   data Phantom a = Phantom;   just has fmap do nothing, join do nothing... A data of the same structure is also called "Proxy", or "Finalize" (which is what I called it, due to reasons having to do with category theory).
< 1392522392 109104 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For any final object of any category, there is a corresponding Finalize monad on that category, isn't it? (And, for initial objects, a corresponding Initialize comonad.)
< 1392523513 185605 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem!
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< 1392523767 714840 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, Roy's deadly to undead energy thing... what if Durkon is standing too close when the sword is used?
< 1392523951 84968 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then maybe he will be dead
< 1392524168 20904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392524169 693096 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beforecoin impcoin lingarcoin nybernmcoin lllcoin delcoin wherpiloventecoin 0x25666thicaencyklan/mcoin 1lemationecoin rincoin .yacuablencoin etacoin mentinrcoin choncoin condicoin hannencoin quancoin worbeitcoin spoolfebowlcoin kayakcoin
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< 1392524230 316916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lllcoin -- the proof of work is finding a short, nearly orthogonal lattice basis?
< 1392524368 161365 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long before the arrival of etacoin
< 1392524488 909234 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392524980 485754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's that work
< 1392525066 777824 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eddacoin. proof of work is done in the form of extemporal sagas
< 1392525094 815697 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/yesterbits/status/434827571008925696/photo/1/large anyway
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< 1392527337 992017 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess at least some use cases for non-lens things in Haskell might be unnecessary in Racket, with a bit of imperative magic?
< 1392527364 514206 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, hmm, even if strictly unnecessary, could still be convenient
< 1392527420 1590 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would rather have a 'how many items in this collection' lens than need to "modify" the collection with a thing to collect the answer
< 1392527428 647550 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lens"
< 1392527443 425970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beep boop
< 1392527445 776491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392527447 151607 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :malcoin waitcoin sokovcoin kelxircucoin miccoin fugicoin locktrycoin boilcoin wadcoin beforecoin quoicoin friedcoin selacoin lazepterixcoin versedcoin livingcoin synccoin proriggethisesocoin protatiumbradacronymcoin realcoin
< 1392527540 597495 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/13/tech/innovation/termite-robots-aaas/index.html?hpt=hp_bn5
< 1392527549 497762 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the point of avoiding the centralized blueprint?
< 1392527557 666139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure i've seen beforecoin before
< 1392527594 935375 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kentucky Friedcoin
< 1392527615 723696 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me gives boily one boilcoin
< 1392527627 404198 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION forgot how to /me, apparently
< 1392527636 285236 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, can you tell me why I am awake.
< 1392527642 186896 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And apparently listening to Bloc Party.
< 1392527651 204650 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably because you're not asleep
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< 1392528431 657952 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would a hardware programming language be designed for quantum computers?
< 1392529172 540638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am sure that there are already papers on this
< 1392529226 184326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that instead of specifying a block of logical equation "assignments" that happen at once, you would specify any self-adjoint operation on whatever subset of "variables" you like
< 1392529255 925185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unitary, not self-adjoint hth
< 1392529262 421574 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it
< 1392529288 768087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1392529419 306962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's hard to think about compiling a quantum HDL because nobody quite knows what physical form a quantum computer will take or what its primitive operations will be
< 1392529446 136275 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a job for rampant speculation
< 1392529467 296194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like doing boolean logic but you don't know whether it will synthesize to CMOS gates or pneumatic tubes or DNA linking up
< 1392529487 614972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe it is less uncertain now; my understanding is sketchy and may be years out of date)
< 1392529524 419836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway any universal quantum computer will be able to implement a CNOT gate, and you can compile any quantum circuit to CNOT gates + rotations, but this may not be a natural or efficient way to implement your quantum HDL
< 1392529579 805783 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any dna computer vhdls
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< 1392530032 265605 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes I would think that you would specify self-adjoint operations, but that still doesn't explain much about how timing, measurements, etc would be specified; well, CNOT gates and rotations can be built-in primitives even if you can define your own things too
< 1392530043 966085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods
< 1392530067 781143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean any quantum computer for the forseeable future is going to be kind of a quantum coprocessor to a conventional computer
< 1392530086 873333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a conventional computer costs like $20 and works at room temperature
< 1392530095 409866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes them better for a lot of things
< 1392530139 568580 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I am trying to think of how to do it with hardware designing, rather than software (already QCL and stuff exists), and to allow to combine quantum with classical in one file
< 1392530160 625754 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, I too think it is supposed to be unitary rather than self-adjoint, but I am not a real physicist so I don't really know
< 1392530176 712205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so probably timing and measurement will be dictated by the classical part
< 1392530183 362417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll specify a measurement basis in the quantum HDL though
< 1392530194 745653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should really read one of these papers instead of speculating but that sounds less fun
< 1392530675 712326 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something quite odd just happened
< 1392530685 172722 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the lock on my door does not work
< 1392530870 955412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: nite
< 1392530955 385871 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you have to bust your way out
< 1392531031 156510 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but someone walked in
< 1392531104 800601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while you were in a... compromising position?
< 1392531119 729673 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but she was in her underwear and seemed somewhat confused
< 1392531185 265050 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked her politely to leave
< 1392531220 660348 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does your door look like a bathroom
< 1392531252 598159 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In as much as a door with my name on it can
< 1392531275 940311 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My name is not "Toilet", "Ladies'", "Gents'", or any variation thereof
< 1392531317 425357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whiz palace
< 1392531342 954507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't your name dutch, though
< 1392531348 702845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps she couldn't read dutch
< 1392531360 112531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SW∃DíSH TJÖILETŜ
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< 1392535404 887183 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :break out your busted too-clever postscript code! I wrote a debugger (requires and interpreter, like gs): https://github.com/luser-dr00g/debug.ps
< 1392535950 102336 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I somehow thought Nazi Temple of Doom would be more exciting...
< 1392536034 47234 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how is it I've never heard of Battle Beyond the Stars? Robert Vaughn AND Hannibal from the A-Team??! smokemifygotem
< 1392536326 656781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the quantum operations supposed to be triggers or what else? That part I don't quite understand.
< 1392536342 932150 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, I do (mostly) understand what the operations are.
< 1392536739 28614 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed the beginning.
< 1392537066 875207 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was reading in here http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/rosetta/rose3.pdf that quantum operations are modifiers on the hilbert space.
< 1392537094 813705 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I can say is that I know what each of those words means individually.
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< 1392548887 161416 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1392548892 166846 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to check if a character is equal to another character in BF
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< 1392548920 888724 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found this https://gist.github.com/wjessup/4688874 but I can't figure out how to copy cell 1 to cell 2 without zeroing cell 1
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< 1392549098 45867 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexagon: you typically need some auxiliary cell. [->+>+<<] duplicates a value.
< 1392549118 912092 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, thanks
< 1392549121 816659 :password2!~password@197.78.185.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to copy instead of move?
< 1392549141 600239 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, because that gist says to have 3 as value of all three cells
< 1392549152 121785 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that one duplicates to the next two cells assuming they are initially zero)
< 1392549531 796655 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~help bf
< 1392549546 583803 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help bf
< 1392549546 772720 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
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< 1392550866 526168 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is dealing with multiple values in Scheme supposed to be painful?
< 1392550892 512658 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of maybe transliterating Traversals into something like 'lens that gets and modifies multiple values', but I have no idea if that's sane
< 1392550925 415418 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In either the 'this is equivalent to traversals' or 'this will be nice to do in Racket' sense
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< 1392551066 333076 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the obvious way is call-with-values sending the values to list
< 1392551195 110317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's http://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-8/srfi-8.html for making multiple values rather less painful.
< 1392551281 230466 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's just let-values in Racket
< 1392551286 290459 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which also has define-values)
< 1392551306 892630 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which are all perfectly well and good except they assume you know how many values are incoming
< 1392551309 660714 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think let-values supports the "rest" syntax thing.
< 1392551318 847390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you don't need to know that for receive.
< 1392551325 34744 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's analogous to lambda argumets.
< 1392551325 870758 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you're right, oops
< 1392551386 448577 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racket does ship with SRFI-8
< 1392551402 455413 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think I hate let-like forms
< 1392551436 828658 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#lang s-exp srfi/provider srfi/%3a8
< 1392551448 50457 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/
< 1392551448 643030 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(let ((l (call-with-values (lambda () (values 1 2 3)) list))) ) -> (receive l (values 1 2 3) ), pretty much.
< 1392551472 860486 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does not make me more appreciative of let-like forms
< 1392551491 887889 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm inclined to worship internal defines
< 1392551631 721124 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/plt/racket/blob/master/pkgs/srfi-pkgs/srfi-lite-lib/srfi/8/receive.rkt
< 1392551645 821440 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't use the reference implementatiion, it defers to let-values
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< 1392551817 252484 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(When it can)
< 1392552042 521494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. I don't remember syntax-rules, will (receive (var ...) [...]) match (receive (a b . c) [...])? 
< 1392552131 6276 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It shouldn't, I ... think
< 1392552152 445960 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, hmm, I can see why that's an interesting question
< 1392552192 295126 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should avoid using body ... for bodies so much? Because ... hmm
< 1392552204 60063 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The implementation is defective if it does, since (let-values (((a b . c) [...])) [...]) is not allowed.
< 1392552209 595961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe it doesn't.
< 1392552238 931209 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the  parts only match a proper list.
< 1392552361 242275 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah, multiple value get returns to emulate traversals... in case the traversal 'gets' just one element, it doesn't need special processing, which fits more closely in a dynamically-typed language than requriing something for that case would
< 1392552400 466973 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I can't actually enumerate all of a real traversal's values, can I?
< 1392552401 385747 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
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< 1392553306 231281 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this code not returning different values for input "a" and "ab"?
< 1392553308 211599 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :>,>,>[[-]>>[-]+<<]>[[-]>[-]+<]>>[-]+<[>-<]>.
< 1392553315 867179 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea taken from http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/558979/BrainFix-the-language-that-translates-to-fluent-Br equality code
< 1392553325 511617 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using http://mazonka.com/brainf/bfdebug.html, tried ideone too
< 1392553339 161898 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, "aa" and "ab", sorry
< 1392553398 197021 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wait
< 1392553412 102700 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I need more code, I'm actually supposed to already set less and more first
< 1392553415 105962 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :*facepalm*
< 1392553711 872687 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll mess with that later, bbl
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< 1392558234 868962 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexagon: Assuming a zero-initialized tape, your  >,>,>[[-]>>[-]+<<]>[[-]>[-]+<]>>[-]+<[>-<]>.  reduces to  >,>,>>>>+.  no matter what the input, as all the [] blocks will be skipped.
< 1392558259 546274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Perhaps that's what your "already set" comment meant.)
< 1392558412 641896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, something like (untested)  ,>,[-<->]+<[>-<[-]]>[ code here if two characters were equal ]  is the obvious destructive compare-two-characters snippet.
< 1392558479 664835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In words, that's "input two characters, subtract second from first; set a flag; if result of subtraction was nonzero (i.e., characters not equal) clear the flag; do something if flag still set".
< 1392558773 943894 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you trying to do?
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< 1392567177 989755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Are the quantum operations supposed to be triggers or what else? That part I don't quite understand. <-- you can think of them as reversible assignments on the qubits.  e.g. a^= b or a+=b is a valid quantum operation if a and b are distinct qubits, as are the operations that rotate the quantum phase of a qubit.
< 1392567377 127715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also an operation might change more than one qubit.
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< 1392570114 169514 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, I can clearly see that an operation might change more than one qubit
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< 1392570404 974406 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't see where such assignments can go other than in triggers, and maybe you might sometimes want to put them elsewhere.
< 1392570451 945622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are triggers?
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< 1392570498 14563 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trigger on a (classical) clock edge.
< 1392570533 385252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that would seem a plausible way
< 1392570594 534439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however the physics are still up in the air.  if the qubits were e.g. stored in _moving_ particles, then the assignments might happen when they arrive at some destination.
< 1392570625 588422 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider the syntax for triggers on classical signals in HWPL:  TRIGGER vec SET vec TO vec [WHEN bit];   and in Verilog, you use "always@(posedge clk)" instead. Similar thing could be done for quantum registers?
< 1392570655 728827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if they were stored in some silicon-like material, then a system more similar to current VLSI might be more likely.
< 1392570670 384622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the assignments are happening when they arrive, that can work too if you put in the relative (or absolute) delays for them
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< 1392570801 533787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is a system more similar to current VLSI, exactly, in quantum computing?
< 1392570848 180506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in that the quantum gates could be put as physical devices on chips
< 1392570937 316200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaronson has been writing about this more or less toy system called boson sampling, which could be based on light and mirrors.
< 1392570961 504340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that wouldn't seem to be full quantum computing
< 1392570994 494063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still of some interest since it might still have some superclassical abilities
< 1392571013 300627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and might be simpler to construct than a full quantum computer
< 1392571044 808931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand that the intended error correction scheme for a quantum computer would make circuits thousands of times larger
< 1392571054 329759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a full quantum computer
< 1392571168 236303 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If quantum gates are put as physical devices on chips, do they need to be activated or something? Or would it be continuous as a signal passes a gate? (Even in such a case, they would still need to be activated somehow, I think). What if error correction is also explicitly programmed in using hardware programming languages? What about entanglement with external devices (which might be used in cryptography, for example)?
< 1392571187 529931 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there needs to be the way to specify measurement, and several other things like that.
< 1392571230 270511 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider maybe something like this:  TRIGGER vec OPERATE matrix ON qureg [WHEN bit];
< 1392571239 656991 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that be?
< 1392571257 199955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd imagine they'd _try_ to construct it as close to a "normal" chip as they can, simply for the advantage of being able to use mostly known technology.
< 1392571271 24415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with mass production advantages etc.)
< 1392571292 102508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I don't know how you would do that.
< 1392571323 680923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither do i! they haven't even decided what's best to make the qubits of yet!
< 1392571507 952498 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevertheless, quantum programming languages exist.
< 1392571554 705511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.  i think they mainly make the assumption that you can combine "pure" gates for unitary matrices mathematically
< 1392571613 369372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't worry about how that would be implemented physically.
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< 1392573248 797271 :JesseH!~Jesse@oftn/member/JesseH PRIVMSG #esoteric :Abacus lang
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< 1392573962 844236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a "skierized vehicle"? 
< 1392574005 789761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, apparently it just means "equipped to transport skis".
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< 1392577064 226563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Florida Man Accidentally Shoots Himself With Stun Gun While Trying to Rob Radio Shack He Also Works At
< 1392577319 942715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"He said he needed money to pay for car insurance and his cell phone bill."
< 1392577324 325751 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's reasonable.
< 1392577351 88010 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, I'm trying to make a BF program to print input in reverse, but it's only outputting an ASCII NUL: >,[>,][<.]
< 1392577381 273897 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yeah, I did realize that < will make it not print the last character, I'll fix that)
< 1392577450 144151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :][ is pointless
< 1392577453 998958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :after a ], the current cell is 0
< 1392577458 40323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore the following loop is always skipped
< 1392577487 371385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is true, ][ is useless
< 1392577488 827919 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, of course
< 1392577496 257254 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except possibly to make up a comment)
< 1392577499 157982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(spoiler: >,[>,]<[.<])
< 1392577516 949270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1392577528 543460 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, thanks!
< 1392577993 256374 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/feb/12/ancient-viking-code-deciphered-runologist-jotunvillur
< 1392578074 827642 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This has got to be one of the most Viking cities anywhere
< 1392578077 344422 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runologist sounds like a fake word
< 1392578136 832422 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"writing his doctorate on cryptography in runic inscriptions from the Viking Age and the Scandinavian Middle Ages" wow
< 1392578175 142698 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that guy is so fucked on the job market
< 1392578231 76403 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he is going to stay on academia?
< 1392578263 957789 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"maybe"
< 1392578290 217574 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried
< 1392578294 374182 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't work out so well
< 1392578301 765382 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, he could probably get a pretty good book deal out of this
< 1392578310 346806 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tried to get a book deal?
< 1392578317 355867 :Shiva!~christ@106.206.66.31 QUIT :Quit: Quitte
< 1392578364 780307 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am trying to write a physics book
< 1392578371 766766 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I doubt it will sell well!
< 1392578374 784600 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even get written
< 1392578394 763552 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should have tried something more popular, like vikings, or SMS.
< 1392578521 18230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of physics
< 1392578555 965616 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Theoretical
< 1392578565 598704 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have plenty of physics book ideas
< 1392578573 596098 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them is called "What the fuck is spin"
< 1392578577 3222 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because seriously
< 1392578583 509790 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a book I would have liked to have
< 1392578593 934734 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most books do not explain it well at all
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< 1392581851 745252 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out, not only BULBASAUR [Lv15] wins against MEWTWO [Lv53], but WEEDLE [Lv15] does too. As far as I can tell, any other card isn't guaranteed to win.
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< 1392582509 42398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show rev
< 1392582509 231938 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>,[>,]<[.<]
< 1392582794 54534 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah__: writing popular physics books? good
< 1392582927 157701 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who said anything about popular
< 1392583004 693553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392583006 94746 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cteditierdneywaterwcoin trackecoin anyplecoin latliscoin punivatumcoin bytecoin muzcoin xigxcoin geslecoin mismcoin novischesnacecoin smncoin threakcoin exeranccoin gcocoin nusaitzcoin galentincoin dzintycoin sationcoin preficoin
< 1392583041 412993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cnidariacoin
< 1392583095 603131 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bytecoin
< 1392583133 963257 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gelatincoin
< 1392583165 564545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gelatocoin
< 1392583183 651330 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogecoin is the only coin
< 1392583193 231803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah__: what the fuck is spin, anyway?
< 1392583243 368590 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc : Buy my book and you will knooow
< 1392583248 457774 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway
< 1392583261 169076 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spin is neither a relativistic concept nor a quantum one at its core
< 1392583311 707573 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one of the two conserved current associated with rotation
< 1392583319 902718 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other being the angular momentum
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< 1392584109 444822 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
< 1392584117 585194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i know how much spin something has
< 1392584122 819880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elementary particles have a fixed amount right?
< 1392584189 753738 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anybody here knows any way of interpreting haskell on android?
< 1392584235 648306 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The spin is linked with what kind of field you have
< 1392584247 584740 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like if it's a scalar field or a vector field or something else
< 1392584337 287727 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1y1g7l/i_have_a_bitcoinfession_and_a_plea_dont_gamble/cfgjhos welp
< 1392584479 63322 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.110.60 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a dogecoinfession
< 1392584732 6323 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coin
< 1392584732 615464 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: coin: not found
< 1392584735 194800 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392584736 707462 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poincoin scomesocoin regiccoin direcoin evercoin anycoin hamcoin jugcoin zetanticoin eflcoin p1eqcoin incoirscrancoin singbramcoin stanchiesends.jscoin hungercoin shelpcoin gativecoin bamcoin beicoin golcoin
< 1392584737 423800 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD
< 1392584757 281595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhqoin
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< 1392587109 721686 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! everycoin and anycoin, those complement each other
< 1392587130 393443 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hungercoin sounds funny
< 1392587139 409649 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, hungercoin is probably some charity thing
< 1392587149 335665 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gativecoin is nice
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< 1392587217 932593 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392587219 482437 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jugarcoin limismetalcoin encecoin sudstrudecoin comcoin strcoin cpticoin fryincoin sqaalcoin finiscrispcoin codpignycoin stepmancoin sigcoin homerlicoin villcoin bffordcoin wakcoin poordcoin bowshogicoin graydorcoin
< 1392587240 726338 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does this even produce that names?
< 1392587257 654828 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/coins
< 1392587258 356942 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --eng-1M --esolangs ${1-20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g'
< 1392587500 595583 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :increasingly annoyed at the people who show up in ##crypto to plug altcoins and associated scams
< 1392587544 789434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah__: ok I think I understand what a scalar vs. vector field is, but how does it relate to spin?
< 1392587733 268577 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :poordcoin sounds nice
< 1392587766 39728 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --esperanto
< 1392587767 441533 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: esperanto
< 1392587805 527656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --finnish
< 1392587807 50968 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :smailcoin
< 1392587807 743419 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah__: i'm talking with douglass_ about spin and she agrees that "What The Fuck Is Spin?" would be a good book
< 1392587842 942784 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --german-medical 5
< 1392587844 315974 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okincoin jugcoin limpeffektivemmundcoin mancoin brascoin
< 1392587875 195058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --finnish 10
< 1392587876 665520 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :longcoin ulkemastelectacoin paiseporuvcoin suvrejutetecoin excelatlacoin oovemcoin sharjcoin worbcoin kostepcoin raincoin
< 1392587895 818560 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :longcoin is long
< 1392588279 462420 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Slereah__: ok I think I understand what a scalar vs. vector field is, but how does it relate to spin? < If you use Noether's theorem 
< 1392588288 500662 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which relates symmetries with conserved quantities
< 1392588292 718306 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And use the rotation symmetry
< 1392588302 314124 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You will find out that there's always two terms 
< 1392588311 386726 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the angular momentum
< 1392588316 570812 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there's the spin density
< 1392588322 396925 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or just spin, in quantum mechanics)
< 1392588354 120272 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That quantity depends on the representation of the field$
< 1392588410 605517 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the rotation group acts differently depending on what kind of field you have
< 1392588421 531764 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it open season for physics questions
< 1392588453 470261 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can find that phenomenon even in classical physics
< 1392588473 317593 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, the total angular momentum of light will depend on its polarization
< 1392588482 633625 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is equivalent to the state of the spin in QM
< 1392588526 685566 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you see darkcoin, which uses eleven hash algorithms for security
< 1392588552 761965 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: #opencl has a shitload of mining people which is especially silly given it's not economical outside of asics, depressing :/
< 1392588575 312183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: bitcoin mining isn't, but maybe they're mining scrypt coins or others?
< 1392588586 843057 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes
< 1392588590 822748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also did you see http://www.h11e.com/
< 1392588607 501005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah__: ok
< 1392588616 925904 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gotta get writing my science code so i can feel opencl ain't pointless
< 1392588634 487285 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good reason for development"
< 1392588676 550283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo write a WebGL litecoin miner and out-do http://tidbit.co.in/ (hopefully without the "getting subpoenaed" part)
< 1392588696 116326 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah__: how do dihydrogen cations involve lambert w
< 1392588780 807396 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a clue!
< 1392588786 931538 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't do chemistry
< 1392588801 204681 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quantum chemistry! schrodinger equation and shit!
< 1392588851 433412 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still chemistryyyy
< 1392588884 728039 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The first successful quantum mechanical treatment of H2+ was published by the Danish physicist Øyvind Burrau in 1927,"
< 1392588890 185573 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :physicist!!
< 1392588957 663823 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2272#comic
< 1392588980 737223 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one electron though.
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< 1392590040 234136 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: H2+? Is that just a proton?
< 1392590051 935149 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :two protons and an electron.
< 1392590088 630755 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1392590096 409314 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense
< 1392590110 309810 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So would a proton be H+2 or H++?
< 1392590116 63000 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, no
< 1392590119 544066 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only one positive charge
< 1392590120 304983 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :H+
< 1392590120 559909 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So H+
< 1392590137 814835 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And alpha would be He+2?
< 1392590143 745185 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alpha?
< 1392590144 135371 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or He++?
< 1392590150 774865 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, helium-4 nucleus
< 1392590157 627006 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alpha particle
< 1392590175 664248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUW00Y5x1tM&feature=kp
< 1392590181 463421 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that's an ion, so it'd just be 4He
< 1392590189 966863 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It is, no electrons
< 1392590200 377291 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't tell me you've never heard of alpha radiation =P
< 1392590206 754732 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :4He2+ then.
< 1392590216 377870 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :god this looks shitty without superscripting
< 1392590223 872857 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :⁴He²⁺
< 1392590239 881889 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I see
< 1392590269 145116 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I was confused about H2+
< 1392590283 577985 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^foo bar _baz ^bak means a molecule with total charge bak, made of baz bar-foo atoms
< 1392590302 150970 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's not clear the 2 is meant to be paired with the H and not the +, although it doesn't make sense to have 2+ charge unless there is a positron or something
< 1392590333 646974 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're dealing with positrons you're not doing normal chemistry, which is probably for the best
< 1392590373 564232 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're dealing with the chemistry of beta plus decay
< 1392590382 483918 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the positron itself won't be significant
< 1392590383 980007 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nukes? pffha
< 1392590709 871529 :augur!~augur@50.246.68.190 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392591206 592076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show rev
< 1392591206 781339 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>,[>,]<[.<]
< 1392591221 398649 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392591233 65285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (spoiler: >,[>,]<[.<]) <-- OKAY
< 1392591255 428970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I invented it independently!
< 1392591260 191569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can it be done any shorter?
< 1392591263 809360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF YOU SAY SO
< 1392591267 558461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do ,[>,]<[.<] if not for the left underflow
< 1392591269 829328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i guess i believe you)
< 1392591281 591036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[>,][<[.<]]
< 1392591296 56466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's longer though :<
< 1392591298 253362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1392591300 365133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dumb and stupid.
< 1392591305 415597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too.
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< 1392592487 851402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : does anybody here knows any way of interpreting haskell on android? <-- my impression from recent release notes is that ghc is gradually getting more support for ARM but android isn't yet working...
< 1392592543 14276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and reddit posts, probably
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< 1392595436 160628 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if I can represent most interesing things with getter+modifier, it may actually be _easier_ for end-users to define a van Laarhoven style lens
< 1392595438 498084 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/
< 1392595553 358918 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.110.60 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: elliott: i brute-force checked all brainfuck programs of length <= 10, and only two of them reverse input: ,[<,]>[.>] and ,[>,]<[.<]
< 1392595566 724462 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a sensible thing to do
< 1392595581 698332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: wait, really?
< 1392595586 910683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you actually do that
< 1392595599 108923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that first one is invalid if you disallow left tape underflow
< 1392595601 445334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is fairly standard
< 1392595610 97855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, both of them are wrong in that case
< 1392595708 709395 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.110.60 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignoring + and - you get only about 73 million programs, which isn't really a lot! and many of those are invalid (i.e. mismatched [])
< 1392595775 329873 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.110.60 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's my completely awful thing http://sprunge.us/jSJA
< 1392595881 968463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: + and - could be used
< 1392595885 906037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for loop conditiony stuff
< 1392595896 625244 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.110.60 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is kinda fun. here's a bunch of echo programs http://sprunge.us/bjVe
< 1392595938 884161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it check things in parallel?
< 1392595959 983158 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.110.60 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope it's really inefficient
< 1392595980 561415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess + and - would blow it up too much
< 1392596097 144419 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: you could also filter out programs containing NOPs (><, <>, -+, +-)
< 1392596110 446570 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :since an equivalent shorter program would already have been tried
< 1392596132 309406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the solution is obvious, just run esotope on every input program to remove duplicates
< 1392596179 70328 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.110.60 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1392596201 390245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that could even be viable
< 1392596202 949641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you reuse the IR
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< 1392596845 231574 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.110.60 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's all possible outputs for 5-character brainfuck programs http://sprunge.us/eXIL
< 1392596900 331629 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.110.60 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait this can't possibly handle things like ,[.,] or ,[.-]
< 1392597258 756014 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Maybe that's all the possible finite outputs
< 1392597287 549696 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although ,[.-] would be finite
< 1392597289 419576 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.110.60 PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[.-] is finite
< 1392597289 951222 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.110.60 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1392597582 784454 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except on EOF = -1 bignum implementations. :D
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< 1392598120 280366 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodello
< 1392598436 502251 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bellotter
< 1392598496 632761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION might point out that mangling people's nicks probably doesn't nickping them, hth hth
< 1392598510 976559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what just happened
< 1392598524 953629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :test
< 1392598531 149194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tests hth
< 1392598532 491917 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392598533 999586 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flabillcoin sbtealpediumcoin andcoin cumcoin benerancecoin irculuscoin easedcoin xbtizedcoin skacoin alcacoin migolcoin unfustiglcoin zwissercoin rumcoin noobcoin philosoecoin thorecoin btfcoin inverundcoin 92.12coin
< 1392598541 982245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i sense a bug hth
< 1392598558 6570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cumcoin
< 1392598560 48898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :skacoin
< 1392598573 842295 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are unsafeCoerces in lens apparently :/
< 1392598589 644671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think shachaf knows all about that
< 1392598617 849470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: there are plans to change those to the new (safe) coerce eventually
< 1392598622 454573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is so much unsafe coercing in Servo :/
< 1392598628 812857 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's the safe coerce
< 1392598649 671867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the one that has typeclass restriction to check that the types actually can be coerced
< 1392598656 281008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1392598669 198632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are examples of pairs of types that "actually can be coerced"
< 1392598703 159921 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to quote what someone said to me in #haskell-lens, but it's not publically logged as far as I can tell
< 1392598704 866860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :any newtype wrapping (with constructor visible), things that only differ in phantom types
< 1392598725 304379 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan. i don't want to ping people. i want to test if they are paying attention.
< 1392598735 682704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "parametric" type constructors applied to those
< 1392598740 343517 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pinging people who are busy would be bothersome
< 1392598759 402218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(using the new role system)
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< 1392598850 528655 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: any progress on TCness of RePairate-2? you know you want to know for sure.
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< 1392598936 315011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh, i sort of put that away after you started mumbling about _exactly_ 2
< 1392598947 996997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i have no idea how to do _that_
< 1392598989 707093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, i have a design sketch that i think should work for <= 2
< 1392599021 769422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in my head, mostly)
< 1392599072 770231 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well i want to see that. obviously, the exactly 2 thing would be super-cool, but I recognize it is a very difficult problem. m in {0,2} would be good enough for now.
< 1392599098 752317 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.110.60 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg
< 1392599280 388209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't think that's necessary
< 1392599287 362137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i've been 
< 1392599293 835118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly arguing against the new coerce
< 1392599298 707635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh?
< 1392599307 570010 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only in places like irc that spj doesn't see, so it's not relevant one way or the other
< 1392599320 202119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ok, i have nothing against this safe coerce thing, it just isn't really relevant to lens
< 1392599334 396914 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is relevant to lens is a 5-line patch spj implemented over a year ago
< 1392599342 730252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh?
< 1392599353 255500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/7542
< 1392599367 321898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, 10 line patch
< 1392599415 406675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The issue is that (foo . NewtypeConstructor) turns into (foo . id) post-denewtypification, and (foo . id) is (\x -> foo x), which isn't the same as foo
< 1392599444 154502 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't it again
< 1392599453 315204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that patch makes it so that strict composition is enough, because foo `seq` (\x -> foo x) should be equal to foo.
< 1392599459 196114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: seq can distinguish them.
< 1392599467 686542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (undefined :: Int -> Int) `seq` ()
< 1392599470 418825 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Prelude.undefined
< 1392599471 354301 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh foo can be bottom you mean
< 1392599472 640993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((\x -> undefined x) :: Int -> Int) `seq` ()
< 1392599473 970336 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ()
< 1392599474 629632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1392599477 111506 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah makes sense
< 1392599527 676719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So to show what the Core would look like if GHC did it correctly, I introduced composition operators that aren't composition at all but are actually unsafeCoerce.
< 1392599540 517931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And edwardk said "that's a good idea, let's put it in".
< 1392599573 956338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway the point is that the whole thing can be fixed with the strict composition thing in GHC HEAD.
< 1392599615 110468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, partly as a result of this bug I filed, SPJ wrote https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/NewtypeWrappers
< 1392599621 203721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"See #7542 for a real life example."
< 1392599652 908020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This newtype wrappers mechanism, and the various other things proposed to solve this issue, are far more complicated than the thing that actually fixes it.
< 1392599690 684843 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, there was discussion on that ticket 6 days ago
< 1392599747 932193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's not quite that simple.
< 1392599809 525996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm still wholeheartedly on the side of fixing this via a compiler optimization of strict composition rather than all this complicated coercion business.
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< 1392602858 331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ..
< 1392602858 724482 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[U+002E FULL STOP] [U+002E FULL STOP]
< 1392602923 414638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird why does the wiki mark it as changed.
< 1392605417 92656 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, is HackEgo yours?
< 1392605434 974549 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`author
< 1392605435 479411 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: author: not found
< 1392605440 500013 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1392605455 603379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's Gregor's
< 1392605741 808608 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the name cartesian-compose make sense for a function that composes functions, but, when one function in the chain returns multiple values, it maps the rest of the composition onto it, rather, than, say, providing the results as multiple arguments?
< 1392605762 581629 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still not sure if I can just use this cartesian-compose, or if I need to change what a getter can do
< 1392605766 476606 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`test
< 1392605767 92985 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1392605821 168144 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`test xa
< 1392605821 787083 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1392605848 391339 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`say xa
< 1392605848 944126 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: say: not found
< 1392605984 154881 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dmesg
< 1392605984 744297 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset \ Initializing cgroup subsys cpu \ Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct \ Linux version 3.13.0-umlbox (hackbot@codu) (gcc version 4.7.2 (Debian 4.7.2-5) ) #1 Wed Jan 29 12:56:45 UTC 2014 \ On node 0 totalpages: 73344 \ free_area_init_node: node 0, pgdat 60318390, node_mem_map 62c3a000 \   Normal zone: 1003 pages used
< 1392605987 480703 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha
< 1392605993 874317 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi
< 1392605994 383578 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1392606002 202755 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`halt -p
< 1392606002 725893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: halt: not found
< 1392606004 883885 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1392606027 513600 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wget
< 1392606028 170415 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wget: missing URL \ Usage: wget [OPTION]... [URL]... \ Try `wget --help' for more options.
< 1392606067 801439 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whoami
< 1392606068 474122 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoami: cannot find name for user ID 5000
< 1392606081 134599 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /etc/passwd
< 1392606081 678553 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /etc/passwd: No such file or directory
< 1392606092 548749 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd
< 1392606093 82604 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/hackenv
< 1392606096 626205 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help
< 1392606096 815020 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
< 1392606105 689755 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? help
< 1392606106 299056 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1392606108 759408 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well.
< 1392606113 817827 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1392606118 176337 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls .
< 1392606118 831632 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :98076 \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ :-D \ dog \ etc \ factor \ fb \ fb.c \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ Test.hi \ Test.hs \ Test.o \ tmp \ UNPA \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf
< 1392606126 182584 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /
< 1392606126 768663 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ dev \ etc \ hackenv \ home \ lib \ lib64 \ opt \ proc \ sbin \ sys \ tmp \ usr
< 1392606135 929046 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /etc
< 1392606136 522815 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatives \ java-6-openjdk
< 1392606160 545291 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm
< 1392606161 76562 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: missing operand \ Try `rm --help' for more information.
< 1392606167 384019 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, when all else fails...
< 1392606167 651201 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`du -sm ./:-D
< 1392606168 280176 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :du: invalid option -- ' ' \ du: invalid option -- '.' \ du: invalid option -- '/' \ du: invalid option -- ':' \ du: invalid option -- '-' \ Try `du --help' for more information.
< 1392606173 124757 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm -rf /
< 1392606173 722795 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `rm --help' for more information.
< 1392606184 64176 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm --help
< 1392606184 626460 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: rm [OPTION]... FILE... \ Remove (unlink) the FILE(s). \  \   -f, --force           ignore nonexistent files, never prompt \   -i                    prompt before every removal \   -I                    prompt once before removing more than three files, or \                           when removing recursively.  Less intrusive than -i, \      
< 1392606200 418926 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`env
< 1392606200 922677 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TERM=linux \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ HACKENV=/hackenv \ PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin \ PWD=/hackenv \ LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ SHLVL=0 \ HOME=/tmp
< 1392606214 793755 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ps -aux
< 1392606215 403104 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? \ See http://gitorious.org/procps/procps/blobs/master/Documentation/FAQ \ USER       PID %CPU %MEM    VSZ   RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND \ 0            1  0.0  0.1   1012   272 ?        S    03:03   0:00 /init \ 0            2  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    03:03   0:00 [kthreadd] \ 0    
< 1392606232 255346 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you expect a sensible display
< 1392606248 172079 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :say what?
< 1392606257 6631 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python -c "print 1"
< 1392606257 776636 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  File "", line 1 \     "print 1" \     ^ \ IndentationError: unexpected indent
< 1392606292 372542 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`find . -type f
< 1392606293 114608 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find: `. -type f': No such file or directory
< 1392606301 467526 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tee ./a
< 1392606307 135795 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ps
< 1392606314 124181 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi
< 1392606319 560915 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, i think it worked
< 1392606362 738672 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1392606363 675281 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  PID TTY          TIME CMD \   286 ?        00:00:00 init \   288 ?        00:00:00 sh \   290 ?        00:00:00 ps \   291 ?        00:00:00 cat
< 1392606364 794349 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1392606370 691137 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, time out
< 1392606391 287156 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, you should add  Suppose I have a.both.b
< 1392609175 971696 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Will either a or b have the ability to look at or manipulate both values, or only each value one at a time?
< 1392609211 631735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t both
< 1392609212 828466 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative f => (a -> f b) -> (a, a) -> f (b, b)
< 1392609234 460076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1392609272 67545 :Tasnout!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org NICK :Taneb
< 1392609286 478297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I managed to write a C/shellscripts polyglot.
< 1392609348 968560 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (a :: Lens' Int (Bool, Bool)  . both . (b :: Lens' Bool Char)
< 1392609349 822259 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Illegal symbol '.' in type
< 1392609350 11069 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Perhaps you intended -XRankNTypes or similar flag
< 1392609350 11223 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    to enable explicit-forall syntax: forall . 
< 1392609364 82318 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1392609374 199630 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (a :: ALens' Int (Bool, Bool)  . both . (b :: ALens' Bool Char)
< 1392609374 967938 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Illegal symbol '.' in type
< 1392609375 191871 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Perhaps you intended -XRankNTypes or similar flag
< 1392609375 380860 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    to enable explicit-forall syntax: forall . 
< 1392609380 56910 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( :(
< 1392609384 56990 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Missing parens
< 1392609391 852750 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (a :: Lens' Int (Bool, Bool))  . both . (b :: Lens' Bool Char)
< 1392609393 33598 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Couldn't match expected type `((Bool, Bool) -> f (Bool, Bool))
< 1392609393 222553 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (a :: ALens' Int (Bool, Bool)) . both . (b :: ALens' Bool Char)
< 1392609393 222701 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                  -> Int -> f Int'
< 1392609393 411466 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                with actual type `Expr'
< 1392609394 198256 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Couldn't match type `Expr'
< 1392609394 387186 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                  with `((Bool, Bool)
< 1392609395 127540 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                         -> Control.Lens.Internal.Context.Pretext
< 1392609399 51067 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck ur type
< 1392609417 638591 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame lambdabot
< 1392609430 673656 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (afucklambdabot :: Lens' Int (Bool, Bool)) . both . (bfucklambdabot :: Lens' Bool Char)
< 1392609431 772377 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `afucklambdabot'
< 1392609431 961451 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `bfucklambdabot'
< 1392609450 807195 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (undefined :: Lens' Int (Bool, Bool)) . both . (undefined :: Lens' Bool Char)
< 1392609451 768391 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative f => (Char -> f Char) -> Int -> f Int
< 1392609454 448927 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is it a QUINE
< 1392609458 599380 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1392609462 623234 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1392609472 148231 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: No, it isn't. It doesn't even do the same thing in C as shellscripts.
< 1392609477 513551 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how to translate that into a lambda
< 1392609495 29149 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by "lambda", I mean "answer to my question"
< 1392609508 847851 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concepts right next to each other, or something
< 1392609516 62439 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b can only look at one value at a time
< 1392609521 769907 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as b knows, there is only one value
< 1392609523 487819 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: make one that's a QUINE IN BOTH
< 1392609530 386139 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :a deals with two values.
< 1392609542 313641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Maybe another time; this time I don't have such an intention.
< 1392609543 169660 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: but not because of both, I'm guessing, but because it actually sees the pair?
< 1392609551 842551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet if it's possible to make a quine in both, then someone already has.
< 1392609561 27840 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, probably.
< 1392609568 316375 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, yes
< 1392609583 187702 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first line is    #define echo echo1(    and then    #define echo1(x)
< 1392609613 929944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: btw the trick to get types that way is to use implicit variables
< 1392609619 269098 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then the actual shell scripts (terminated by exit), and thenn it undefines those two macros.
< 1392609652 585821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (?a :: Lens' Int (Bool, Bool))  . both . (?b :: Lens' Bool Char)
< 1392609653 767630 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Could not deduce (?a::((Bool, Bool) -> f1 (Bool, Bool))
< 1392609653 956637 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                          -> Int -> f1 Int)
< 1392609653 956802 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :      arising from a use of implicit parameter `?a'
< 1392609661 631421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What it does is   echo >/dev/null  and then runs gcc.
< 1392609667 745739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it should have been.
< 1392609681 217922 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does it compile itself?
< 1392609685 604937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yes.
< 1392609691 259598 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great, so... all I need to do to be confident in my representation being satisfactory (once I start using cartesian-compose) is ... understand prisms
< 1392609703 824384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe those have trouble with rank-N
< 1392609705 400446 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I thought I used ImplicitParams. I blame the fact that it's 4 am
< 1392609719 275830 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, worse comes to worst, I could have prism be a subtype of lens, I think
< 1392609762 696814 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since my representation will support traversals just fine, it's just prisms may (or may not) be more than a traversal... just a traversal reversible into a getter... somehiw
< 1392609787 700500 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also need to understand folds, but I think those are just getters?
< 1392609856 606285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: prisms and lenses are not contained in each other either way
< 1392609876 7331 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I'm calling a 'lens' is more fiexible than a lens
< 1392609883 186676 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if anyone else has written C/shellscripts polyglots at all; do you know of any such things?
< 1392609883 375773 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexible
< 1392609942 775635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't call it a lens thne
< 1392609943 913107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then
< 1392609985 425231 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ what should I call it
< 1392610005 274411 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a generalized lens
< 1392610011 506919 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love general
< 1392610021 429672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I wrote a C / shell / python / haskell / brainfuck / DOS .COM file polyglot
< 1392610048 83203 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: such a program won the 1986 IOCCC
< 1392610050 527664 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.spinellis.gr/blog/20100112/
< 1392610059 305082 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C/shell is pretty easy because of #if 0 and because shell doesn't do static syntax checking
< 1392610076 879928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, #if 0 or whatever
< 1392610077 164769 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what did it do
< 1392610089 503113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: prints "Hello, $lang!" for each lang
< 1392610112 731785 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: needs more brainfuck
< 1392610143 359585 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: make the brainfuck part a quine
< 1392610145 555084 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1392610147 396413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it starts with a blank line
< 1392610149 923630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of annoying
< 1392610152 907355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems the polymath project to reduce the size of the known minimal gap between primes has got down to 270
< 1392610177 381322 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maximal gap?
< 1392610232 354776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's a little confusing
< 1392610255 814914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "for all N there exist primes >= N closer than this gap"
< 1392610266 261471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+ distinct
< 1392610321 246753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :closer or equally close
< 1392610371 262416 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen another one to check what programming language it is; but it was different, and also included both Plain TeX and LaTeX.
< 1392610398 958289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://michaelnielsen.org/polymath1/index.php?title=Bounded_gaps_between_primes
< 1392611062 391987 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392611206 927957 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My "lenses" might not match up with Haskell lenses, but they're still a pair of getter+modifier
< 1392611358 759027 :password2!~password@197.78.166.95 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392611605 929058 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1392612084 187671 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I a bad person for using λ in my source files?
< 1392612224 745071 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392612323 61916 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem like sleep is happening
< 1392612497 311183 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I strongly recommend ensuring that it happens at some point, otherwise it could happen forever
< 1392612516 245124 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that doesn't... quite mean what I intended it to
< 1392612752 216274 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392612752 405058 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Client Quit
< 1392613673 135939 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392613765 592058 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t both
< 1392613766 544944 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative f => (a -> f b) -> (a, a) -> f (b, b)
< 1392613769 454277 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t neither
< 1392613770 516069 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Not in scope: `neither'
< 1392613770 704982 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Perhaps you meant `either' (imported from Data.Either)
< 1392613783 547580 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t either
< 1392613784 553854 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> c) -> (b -> c) -> Either a b -> c
< 1392613798 963435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very related
< 1392613829 295933 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i see
< 1392613850 141946 :blotter!~blotter@184-157-11-33.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is a botfest ^_^
< 1392613880 498068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392613881 918509 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :smuragrapcoin qualcoin optincoin chintcoin pointcoin gregxcoin cvocoin immicoin bluelcoin redcoin minisetercoin padabccoin alnecoin hq9+coin boationcoin preputecoin cobcoin zeicoin miindeltorcoin stucoin
< 1392613902 240480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hq9+coin
< 1392613916 583890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo cocoin
< 1392613956 372305 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Qualcoin, mined by chinese factory workers
< 1392613965 650794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ignored
< 1392613966 587152 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative f => pafb -> s -> f s
< 1392614001 330910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that may be the thing that corresponds most to "neither" in the sense that matches with "both"
< 1392614036 600072 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. Or "none" in the sense that matches with "each".
< 1392614086 909446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate
< 1392614087 98308 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/
< 1392614087 584699 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´69   | c.c.c |   `\o/´69  ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c |
< 1392614087 773508 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 >\ c.c  |\  >\|   |     |\ c.c /'\    |     >\| |\ c.c /|
< 1392614088 188380 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               (_|¯`\                 /´\
< 1392614088 377504 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    |_)             (_| |_)
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< 1392614102 972199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :blotter: botfest you said?
< 1392614108 208917 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392614109 587336 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unbaccoin cogscoin yeartraccoin xnigmentacoin turdocicoin uustencoin hungcoin cronkeymacoin iluriencoin alcodaycoin zombcoin fulcoin noilogcoin theolanguinncoin opmecoin rydcoin vingintercoin matcoin ruberiggcoin cancoin
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< 1392614256 699322 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :World of Padman seems to have generally 0 players online
< 1392614257 529260 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1392614434 458926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t united -- here's the other one i was trying to find
< 1392614436 630475 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => (() -> f ()) -> a -> f a
< 1392614452 68833 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :united :: Lens' a ()
< 1392614553 411561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the following three exist: Lens' s (); Lens' Void a; Prism' s Void
< 1392614563 569907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Prism' () a doesn't
< 1392614590 433346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking
< 1392614647 938687 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How important are the prism-specific features of prisms?
< 1392614671 574964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how important are the ocean-specific features of oceans?
< 1392614736 626926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm, that seems more reasonable to me now than it did back then
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< 1392618908 516889 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQLite now added recursive queries now. There is an example SQL program that solves sudoku puzzle, given.
< 1392618958 774315 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1392619126 315380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The WITH clause look like a really good feature.
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< 1392621042 99291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: show me?
< 1392621054 911480 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :CTEs?
< 1392621057 467481 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursive?
< 1392621298 953899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how was I not already following ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG21 on twitter???
< 1392621321 882104 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.sqlite.org/lang_with.html
< 1392621328 502859 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i, what
< 1392621361 286971 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's uh... C++ standards?
< 1392621365 984394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1392621385 305937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I like the Mandelbrot set renderer as well :D
< 1392622186 152559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: inductive data types in Inform? https://twitter.com/chrisamaphone/status/435247774712344577
< 1392622432 648013 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :He needs to specify whether he means Inform6 or Inform7, which are two different programming languages. I don't know much of either.
< 1392622579 11847 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a problem with WebGL is that everyone ends up making their own control scheme, there's no consistency
< 1392622596 183620 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which may be good for some games, but generic places to explore, some consistency might be useful
< 1392622630 300441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: she
< 1392622641 407057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think)
< 1392622644 195289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a followup tweet says i7
< 1392622655 821109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, I thought you knew a lot about inform
< 1392622909 562409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do the recursive WITH clauses make SQLite into a logic programming language
< 1392622913 391325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some other kind of thing
< 1392623458 56390 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't know, but it allows loops and recursion without triggers, so it can be used in a query by itself.
< 1392623471 72293 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks to be an extremely useful feature.
< 1392624063 876834 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
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< 1392624675 950751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But SQL does have unusual features compared to other programming languages; many of which can be useful in the applicable circumstances. Other features I think would be useful to have are overridable views, trigger indices, and ordered triggers.
< 1392624869 229024 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the ability to rename views would also be useful.
< 1392626396 445948 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about logic programming language; if you know then hopefully you would know whether WITH clauses can make SQL into logic programming language.
< 1392627500 116717 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I won't be changing my representation to just modifiers, I think. Although I will try to provide a function to turn a modifier into a getter+modifier pair, although it's only meant to be used on non-lazy structures
< 1392627515 96645 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racket does have the occasional lazy structure, so I hope this is the right decision
< 1392628879 498176 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, did you know that lens is turing complete
< 1392628991 563053 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I do
< 1392628992 774339 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Howso?
< 1392629095 211509 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the easiest way I've seen is by simulation of B,C,K,W with fix to get round Hindley-Milner
< 1392629095 439657 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It suddenly occurs to me that I have no idea if this is a good idea :/
< 1392629120 786586 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, when I run my test, it will probably break horribly if this is a bad idea
< 1392629130 907839 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good" is a false concept. There is no justice in this world, Sgeo.
< 1392629136 887291 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type over mapped `asTypeOf` \a b c -> a (b c)
< 1392629138 836066 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor ((->) t) => (a -> b) -> (t -> a) -> t -> b
< 1392629156 964937 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type view flipped `asTypeOf` \a b c -> a c b
< 1392629157 955380 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> b -> c) -> b -> a -> c
< 1392629178 397948 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type view curried (view _1) `asTypeOf` \a b -> a
< 1392629179 220522 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b1 -> b -> b1
< 1392629205 799075 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey, looks like it did break horribly
< 1392629212 480363 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type perform (over mapped acts acts) `asTypeOf` \a b -> a b b
< 1392629213 296888 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad ((->) t) => (t -> t -> b) -> t -> b
< 1392629222 883096 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the grand finale:
< 1392629247 776259 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type over mapped (view flipped (foldrOf folded (over mapped) (view simple)) ((&) ^?! ignored)) (toListOf repeated)
< 1392629248 630809 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> a) -> a
< 1392629291 643069 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so simple.
< 1392629376 376190 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (.) join . (.) . flip
< 1392629377 57473 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> b -> c) -> (a -> b) -> a -> c
< 1392629419 153759 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (.) join . flip . (.) (.)
< 1392629419 980187 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> b -> c) -> (a -> b) -> a -> c
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< 1392630489 806459 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the algorithm to figure out how to create a "frequent words" table so that text containing any sequence of characters which are included in the table can be compressed? It is slightly complicated, because the cost of the text may occasionally differ slightly depending on which table it is in.
< 1392631160 44689 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I either need to rework getters to use lists instead of multiple-valued return, or rework composition of modifiers to be compatible with multiple-valued returns
< 1392631259 647973 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the former may make more sense
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< 1392635716 470961 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn  (a -> b -> c) -> (a -> b) -> a -> c
< 1392635717 39118 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a b c = a c (b c)
< 1392635740 816920 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl  f a b c = a c (b c)
< 1392635741 284196 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :f = ap
< 1392635753 274443 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: It's all just ap
< 1392635850 403882 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet there is a simpler way to do ap with lens
< 1392635859 620124 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without using cheaty lambdas
< 1392636549 956647 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> over mapped (view flipped (foldrOf folded (over mapped) (view simple)) ((&) ^?! ignored)) (toListOf repeated) id
< 1392636553 939885 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
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< 1392637742 551693 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am running into problems that are, fundamentally, caused by being in a dynamic language
< 1392637771 268599 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lens-mod (hash 'a 5) (compose-lens (at 'a) (at 'b)) (const 6))
< 1392637800 41289 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is that supposed to do, exactly? The item at 'a in the original object isn't a dict that (at 'b) would know how to modify
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< 1392638188 876505 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You're on your own
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< 1392638765 391063 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only solution that comes readily to mind is having a separate mode for setters
< 1392638775 201165 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, getter+modifier+setter tuple
< 1392638780 192399 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that seems horrific
< 1392638831 677956 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless... I can have a lens that would 'fail', instead somehow ask upstream what to do
< 1392638850 692952 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, sending some kind of signal, that const would, by its very nature, ignore, but other things wouldn't
< 1392638862 303598 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except... hmm
< 1392638932 267170 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(values) is a thing that unless you ignore it, you choke on it
< 1392638943 256155 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or otherwise specifically look for it)
< 1392639785 158803 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lens.rkt is now safely on GitHub.
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< 1392643821 668562 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I wonder if Typed Racket would work better
< 1392643926 407601 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I just modify all modifiers to receive a signal saying 'no value given'
< 1392643972 171103 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some modifiers might choke on that (car-l, cdr-l), some might not
< 1392644117 361579 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ultimately, const would not care that there's no value given, because it provides a value.
< 1392644127 570447 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a different user-supplied modifier would fail with an arity error
< 1392644244 615319 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, just now decided to check for lenses in other dynamically-typed languages
< 1392644248 602193 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pylens exists
< 1392644302 500510 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need sleep
< 1392644752 57177 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392647264 904019 :MoALTz!~no@31.175.35.2 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1392647567 911443 :MoALTz!~no@31.175.35.2 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1392648497 843380 :password2!~password@197.78.166.95 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392650405 667281 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1392651335 732710 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392651540 302212 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1392651541 11821 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1392651800 910765 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1392652109 942936 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392653201 864104 :password2!~password@197.78.166.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , shikhout sounds nederlands
< 1392653680 919148 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: Nah, it's a play on my primary nick (my real name), shikhin.
< 1392653689 350736 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: So, shikhout and shikherr are my secondary nicks.
< 1392653694 532997 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and tertiary
< 1392653868 853776 :blotter!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392654116 828194 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392654302 105604 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392654855 782236 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392654880 287569 :password2!~password@197.78.166.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1392654888 147046 :password2!~password@197.78.166.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hout means wood in my language
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< 1392656650 978225 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drewno means wood in my language
< 1392656794 88515 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1392657206 803228 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392658517 844712 :nooodl!~nooodl@62.205.87.150 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392659020 828242 :password2!~password@197.78.166.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language is that?
< 1392659113 595593 :password2!~password@197.78.166.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah polish
< 1392659330 873069 :nooodl!~nooodl@62.205.87.150 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1392659431 272486 :nooodl!~nooodl@62.205.87.150 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392659577 751253 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1392659855 224696 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392660269 97582 :nooodl!~nooodl@62.205.87.150 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1392660451 403254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392660452 971499 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doncoin gebsoncoin polycoin tempncoin paranhehcoin isccoin subamcoin emocoin mdjcoin @!coin versigcoin msizecoin haccoin roadlycoin nolocoin gasphalcshicoin sothesecoin calcoin bigehotorcoin retuacoin
< 1392660591 821069 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hot or coin
< 1392660616 822066 :password2!~password@197.78.166.95 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392660623 316193 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact : coin means "quack" in french
< 1392660627 54318 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coin coin
< 1392660854 22668 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duck is kaczka in Polish
< 1392661218 677524 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392661299 88428 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuckoo coin
< 1392661428 512607 :password2!~password@197.78.179.33 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392662473 76714 :password2!~password@197.78.179.33 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1392664086 148317 :JesseH!~Jesse@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392664135 801713 :JesseH!~Jesse@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392666747 515770 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392666768 304069 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which of these fuckin bots has quotes again
< 1392666770 650024 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote box
< 1392666771 307582 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :46)  Maternal instincts?   Don't you just leave the thing in a box until it starts crying, and then shake it until it stops? \ 518)  according to physics and maths can we theoretically have a box with infinite cookies inside? \ 637)  BOXBOT IS TERRIBLE   NOBODY LIKES BOXBOT   He's just a box with arms 
< 1392666787 734314 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote broke
< 1392666788 274984 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :174)  zzo38: A better definition would probably fix Avogadro's number.   It's broken? \ 380) * Sgeo mutters about broken toilets   #toilet is useless   is #toilet even a thing   I'm looking for help with toilets \ 497)  But I mean, why fix it if it ain't broke? Except now it is \ 795)  the other day I b
< 1392666879 311174 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote HackEgo
< 1392666879 928609 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :33)  `translatefromto hu en Hogy hogy hogy ami kemeny   How hard is that \ 74)  let's put that in the HackEgo quotes files, just to completely mystify anyone who looks back along them in the future \ 310)  `quote django   352)  django is named after a person?   thought it would be a gira
< 1392666919 383515 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder which bot has the most quotes, fungot perhaps?
< 1392666919 572772 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: there is winscheme48, too.)
< 1392667065 198856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tr ' ' '\n' < quotes | grep '^<.*>$' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | paste
< 1392667067 131752 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.14276
< 1392667077 803267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no pasteing allowed.
< 1392667081 267796 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tr ' ' '\n' < quotes | grep '^<.*>$' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr 
< 1392667081 882464 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :    142  \     132  \     109  \     100  \      96  \      95  \      88  \      78  \      68  \      63  \      61  \      55  \      52  \      52  \      49  \      42  \      32  \      26  \   
< 1392667091 983959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's the first bot-like thing in the list, anyway.
< 1392667135 412005 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O
< 1392667176 350097 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /usr/bin/paste
< 1392667196 347477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that kind of pasteing is fine.
< 1392667206 791897 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1392667213 931627 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no pasting allowed?
< 1392667230 371289 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what the heck, i'm in more quotes than itidus?
< 1392667232 67601 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :travesty
< 1392667712 755587 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392668618 977858 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1392668754 974664 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392669634 904513 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.110.60 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392669888 739124 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392669926 10415 :nooga!~nooga@46.250.173.30 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1392669982 71100 :blotter_!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1392670361 238595 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like SQL?
< 1392670446 994732 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1392670474 669049 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like that SQL is so strongly identified with its concrete syntax, and that SQL is still commonly used by gluing together strings in another programming languages
< 1392670498 117384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the interface between an application and a database should be something richer than strings
< 1392670523 150298 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like that strongly gluing of SQL either, but I don't generally use it that way anyways.
< 1392670572 13105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can use things like ?1 ?2 rather than joining strings using other programs, if you do need to pass parameters to the SQL statements.
< 1392670602 494010 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQL can be used fine by itself, and if the program allows the user to enter SQL statements.
< 1392670746 977130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQL is actually a complete programming language, although one which is unusual, it is still good for many things.
< 1392670820 239710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you disagree with any of this?
< 1392671000 28204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really
< 1392671027 525170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parameters like ?1 are an improvement, but don't really address my core complaint, which isn't about SQL but about how the world works more generally
< 1392671051 540078 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I will try to explain later
< 1392671120 824152 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I think I agree your statement about "how the world works more generally", but that doesn't make SQL bad; it just means database interfaces are lacking.
< 1392671161 842792 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do generally work with SQL by writing all of the SQL statements, triggers, etc in one file, so the program is mainly written in SQL and any extensions required may be written in C.
< 1392671186 313292 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other way around seems more common, and perhaps your complaint addresses that.
< 1392672973 84296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1392672975 656619 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically I am annoyed that the only truly universal data format is ASCII text
< 1392673096 994603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so when you design a new file format / language / protocol, you have to put a lot of thought into how to represent it as ASCII text
< 1392673150 618300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and both designers and implementers tend to screw this up in ways that make life miserable
< 1392673192 220031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular it causes a lot of security problems due to improper escaping
< 1392673222 997200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the fact that escaping needs to be aware of multiple layers at once
< 1392673248 280356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually a lot of things can be done with binary data, if you know the endianness and all of that stuff.
< 1392673389 116835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. perfectly well-formated JSON can still cause trouble when it's pasted after a HTML "
< 1392673415 397648 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas if you think mostly in terms of trees, you still need to serialize them at some point, but that can be a core low-level library and you only have to get it right there
< 1392673814 517451 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is possible to work-around the "" problem though. But there are in fact binary formats meant to be usable similar to JSON but if you want binary rather than text format.
< 1392675901 514717 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392676243 618362 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392676373 805848 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392676646 786327 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1392677199 139525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392677460 233019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just realized you could do  let s = it  in ghci
< 1392677466 860489 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392677472 629960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily
< 1392677538 283404 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellœrjan!
< 1392677727 849041 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392678054 23208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392678055 551236 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :knhcoin sticcoin catccoin flattocoin wiecoin flecoin cariacoin d1reratcoin drocoin brzrocoin recolouxcoin subicoin subulolchicoin nicidicoin commucoin comercoin sallingpowrtyrevolucoin twomacoin genomecoin cradicoin
< 1392678083 151119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure, it is usually possible to work around design flaws in any kind of system
< 1392678116 447774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't count on every developer to know all the traps and workarounds and apply them perfectly 100% of the time
< 1392678122 559446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even if they did it would still be a large cost
< 1392678203 202099 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION chokes on trying to say “brzrocoin”
< 1392678274 362387 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1392678802 615670 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392679707 607193 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1392679833 903340 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1392679837 717330 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392681047 983610 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nocoin
< 1392681294 301054 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392681400 562649 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo KCUF | rev
< 1392681401 140613 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK
< 1392681450 944785 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'GAB A KCUF' | rev
< 1392681451 568611 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK A BAG
< 1392681457 290997 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, your bot has misbehaving
< 1392681474 724953 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is
< 1392681475 928131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knights Christian United in Faith
< 1392681481 827079 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome blotter__ 
< 1392681482 617975 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :02blotter__: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13irc.dal.net.)
< 1392681528 777484 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'CMK UOY KCUF' | rev
< 1392681529 434486 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK YOU KMC
< 1392681536 311867 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow so mean
< 1392681549 530468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392681550 969280 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dungcoin objectcoin podoccoin muguecoin iorslccoin pyraziecoin afelycoin ilecoin rfremblebraicoin pircoin blongcoin minarycodcoin soncoin laoticacoin blacroncalcoin commencoin dravitycoin genocoin elzellornicoin mithcoin
< 1392681571 950616 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tittycoin appears to be missing
< 1392681651 911975 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '/quit'
< 1392681652 557614 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/quit
< 1392681657 104215 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '/part'
< 1392681657 700193 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/part
< 1392681805 478780 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't work like that
< 1392681839 188641 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i see
< 1392681849 150511 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was worth a shot
< 1392681865 965328 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '\r\nQUIT :a\r\n'  # would do better, but won't work anyway
< 1392681866 505423 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
< 1392681900 161945 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it wont be a raw irc message
< 1392681914 110719 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise plain echos wouldnt work
< 1392682018 741012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* boily chokes on trying to say “brzrocoin” <-- you're just not czech enough hth
< 1392682072 868100 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am Canadian. I am also sane. those are two qualities that prevent me of pronouncing exotic consonant clusters.
< 1392682109 119427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still with the delusions
< 1392682176 516768 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the delusions, they are delicious.
< 1392682201 670480 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or is that the meal I'm currently eating? I can't make the distinction.)
< 1392682681 743633 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1392683048 399164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my current meal is so cheesy
< 1392683070 293481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also bready and liver patéy
< 1392683221 833648 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://yle.fi/uutiset/poroille_tarkoitetun_heijastinsprayn_tehtavana_estaa_liikenneonnettomuuksia/7093117
< 1392683520 118901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Well, the easiest way I've seen is by simulation of B,C,K,W with fix to get round Hindley-Milner <-- come to think of it, i don't actually have a citation that that is enough.  i'm suddenly worried by the fact you cannot make polymorphic functions this way.
< 1392683605 233372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that it's actually a problem, though.
< 1392683648 593133 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pâté de foie is a good thing.
< 1392683667 401299 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CHICKEN OF DOUBT
< 1392683670 585563 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392683680 200799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think lens probably has enough stuff that you could make arithmetic directly as well, which would surely clinch it.
< 1392683746 352469 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you write "echo KCUF | rev", then the respose is supposed to be "FUCK" it isn't a misbehaviour. If you don't like it, give different input please!
< 1392683760 118220 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Being Canadian and sane prevent you from pronouncing some things? Are you sure?
< 1392683799 187403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t view curried (view (sumOf both))
< 1392683800 426849 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Couldn't match type `((a0, b0) -> Accessor a1 (a0, b0),
< 1392683800 615765 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                          (a0, b0) -> Accessor a1 (a0, b0))'
< 1392683800 615954 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                  with `a1 -> Accessor a1 a1'
< 1392683805 106153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm not quite
< 1392683831 242752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t view curried (sumOf both)
< 1392683832 354203 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num a => a -> a -> a
< 1392683846 663983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t view curried (productOf both)
< 1392683847 744804 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num a => a -> a -> a
< 1392683857 252343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is allowed to be both sane and insane simultaneously.
< 1392683894 826167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is an area of the mind that could be called unsane, beyond sanity, and yet not insane. Think of a circle with a fine split in it. At one end there's insanity. You go around the circle to sanity, and on the other end of the circle, close to insanity, but not insanity, is unsanity.
< 1392683904 859824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  I think it is allowed to be both sane and insane simultaneously.
< 1392683906 369877 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1170)  I think it is allowed to be both sane and insane simultaneously.
< 1392683959 250142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (^-)
< 1392683960 229308 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Not in scope: `^-'
< 1392683960 418203 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Perhaps you meant one of these:
< 1392683960 418357 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :      `-' (imported from Prelude), `^' (imported from Prelude),
< 1392683964 107850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1392683968 728217 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :When the object enters the timestream, time begins to correct itself. Let me use this example: Imagine four balls on the edge of a cliff. Say a direct copy of the ball nearest the cliff is sent to the back of the line of balls and takes the place of the first ball. The formerly first ball becomes the second, the second becomes the third, and the fourth falls off the cliff. Time works the same way.
< 1392683971 845264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (~-)
< 1392683972 887083 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Not in scope: `~-'
< 1392683973 76143 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Perhaps you meant one of these:
< 1392683973 76323 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :      `-' (imported from Prelude), `-~' (imported from Control.Lens)
< 1392683978 853156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (-~)
< 1392683979 897845 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num a => ASetter s t a a -> a -> s -> t
< 1392683986 187083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: O, that's how it works.
< 1392683994 31780 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now I know
< 1392684016 570308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that's what Terence McKenna says, anyway
< 1392684028 351832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude probably smoked his own weight in DMT
< 1392684039 694397 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O
< 1392684041 438331 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on your perspective that might make him either more or less reliable on these matters
< 1392684046 568172 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now I can know who such a quotation is from.
< 1392684071 775849 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is DMT something you smoke
< 1392684072 18920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :naturally, I know that quote not from reading his writing directly but from hearing it in a psychedelic trance song
< 1392684077 244570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can be
< 1392684083 577504 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :drat
< 1392684116 947724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When smoked, DMT generally reaches full effects within 10-60 seconds of inhalation."  it's one of these
< 1392684118 408010 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what "DMT" stands for.
< 1392684124 535803 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dimethyltryptamine.
< 1392684140 120235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :N,N-dimethyltryptamine yeah
< 1392684160 623754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I N,N-dimethyltryptamine
< 1392684163 86332 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has smoked 5-MeO-DMT but not DMT
< 1392684196 453761 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried ayahuasca once
< 1392684196 643121 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i 2-(1H-indol-3-yl)-N,N-dimethylethanamine ¬_¬
< 1392684226 605618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you can also trip from eating DMT-containing plants but you need to take them with a MAOI; there are traditional preparations for this
< 1392684231 123768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: oh, how was it?
< 1392684236 617050 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird as hell
< 1392684242 135002 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I haven't tried regular DMT
< 1392684244 420348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (-~) (over simple)
< 1392684244 979819 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I threw up a bunch :P
< 1392684245 695776 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: t0 = Mutator t0
< 1392684245 884743 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Expected type: ASetter (Mutator t0) t0 (Mutator t0) (Mutator t0)
< 1392684245 884878 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :      Actual type: (Mutator t0 -> Mutator t0)
< 1392684251 140891 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://24.media.tumblr.com/901826dd6f13abf694cac1fb0442643d/tumblr_n09sqfia1j1qetjcco3_250.jpg
< 1392684251 329695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see the machine elves
< 1392684252 404478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn what was it again
< 1392684257 909737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (-~) id
< 1392684258 968842 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num t => t -> t -> t
< 1392684272 59311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t over simple
< 1392684273 60590 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b -> b) -> b -> b
< 1392684274 92453 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, but I saw lots of weird things getting drawn in green tendrils
< 1392684278 448544 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1392684286 204148 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was really weird, part of a ritual in the dark
< 1392684288 556641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t view simple
< 1392684289 552796 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :MonadReader a m => m a
< 1392684301 524594 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t view simple id
< 1392684303 174338 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> a
< 1392684303 463449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (-~) (view simple)
< 1392684304 830347 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num a => a -> a -> a
< 1392684306 867107 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :the room was completely dark but if my eyes were open, I'd feel super lucid
< 1392684321 718342 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since it was dark and I was seeing shit regardless, my eyes would creep shut without me noticing, but when they were shut I'd feel super mentally congested
< 1392684325 302565 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t view simple id 3
< 1392684326 310314 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num a => a
< 1392684327 47837 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I'd open them up and feel relieved again
< 1392684333 899780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah
< 1392684336 241560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's interesting
< 1392684347 663087 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1392684353 946961 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd do it again, but didn't much enjoy the throwing up :)
< 1392684382 465134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t lengthOf
< 1392684383 319610 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting (Endo (Endo Int)) s a -> s -> Int
< 1392684385 859927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1392684387 181117 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the sketchiest thing I've ever done, too. I was in a big city in the peruvian amazon, super poor, driven away into the slums of the poor city
< 1392684404 70558 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :then walked into a house where the shaman lived
< 1392684414 862359 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not the wisest thing to do, but it worked out
< 1392684420 132991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm glad it worked out :)
< 1392684422 628097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eating a large qty of plant stuff is a good way to throw up, yeah
< 1392684428 910244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i have puked from pure synthetic psychedelics too
< 1392684432 85314 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was a weird liquid concoction 
< 1392684433 777114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, purity unknown but probably high)
< 1392684435 351969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1392684457 797909 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd still like to try pure DMT
< 1392684491 366863 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity they took SR down :P
< 1392684493 601917 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_<
< 1392684506 914688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: view simple _is_ id
< 1392684511 744014 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know
< 1392684535 908714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: the game here is to use no identifiers or constructors defined outside lens
< 1392684545 622908 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know
< 1392684586 565803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t aside
< 1392684587 714347 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Applicative f, Choice p) => APrism s t a b -> p (e, a) (f (e, b)) -> p (e, s) (f (e, t))
< 1392684594 755759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t beside
< 1392684595 820066 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Applicative (Data.Profunctor.Rep.Rep q), Applicative f, Data.Profunctor.Rep.Representable q) => Overloading p q f s t a b -> Overloading p q f s' t' a b -> Overloading p q f (s, s') (t, t') a b
< 1392684602 909301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1392684606 323131 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t side
< 1392684607 390938 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Not in scope: `side'
< 1392684607 614378 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Perhaps you meant one of these:
< 1392684607 803582 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :      `aside' (imported from Control.Lens),
< 1392684856 463824 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392684985 836612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t re _Just
< 1392684987 32370 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Functor f, Contravariant f) => (Maybe b -> f (Maybe b)) -> b -> f b
< 1392685037 760642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t review _Just
< 1392685038 843983 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :MonadReader b m => m (Maybe b)
< 1392685104 569160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t lengthOf (review _Just) _Just
< 1392685105 722556 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Couldn't match type `Maybe (a0 -> Accessor (Endo (Endo Int)) a0)'
< 1392685105 911526 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                  with `(p0 a1 (f0 b0) -> p0 (Maybe a1) (f0 (Maybe b0)))
< 1392685105 911699 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                        -> Accessor
< 1392685114 786162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t lengthOf
< 1392685115 769023 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting (Endo (Endo Int)) s a -> s -> Int
< 1392685177 496365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t lengthOf folded ((review _Just) _Just)
< 1392685178 592480 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    No instance for (Choice p0) arising from a use of `_Just'
< 1392685178 781284 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    The type variable `p0' is ambiguous
< 1392685178 781450 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Possible fix: add a type signature that fixes these type variable(s)
< 1392685182 512445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh
< 1392685189 27871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t lengthOf folded
< 1392685190 31818 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foldable f => f a -> Int
< 1392685240 672866 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you just use djinn somehow
< 1392685249 410991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t lengthOf folded ((review _Just) (view simple))
< 1392685250 771410 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    No instance for (MonadReader a0 m0) arising from a use of `view'
< 1392685250 960305 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    The type variables `m0', `a0' are ambiguous
< 1392685250 960444 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Possible fix: add a type signature that fixes these type variable(s)
< 1392685303 603943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t lengthOf folded ((review _Just) (over simple))
< 1392685304 617924 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Int
< 1392685307 750355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew
< 1392685312 871018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> lengthOf folded ((review _Just) (over simple))
< 1392685316 280651 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1
< 1392685320 781258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay!
< 1392685344 777526 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t review
< 1392685346 71216 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :MonadReader b m => AReview s t a b -> m t
< 1392685356 677018 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm satisfied
< 1392685447 546268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: just ponder http://cokmett.github.io/cokmett/ (you need to click on the picture)
< 1392685476 339731 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :incredible
< 1392685493 769433 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bimonocycleoid
< 1392685563 359947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i recall a question whether it was statistically guaranteed to halt, don't think it got a proper answer
< 1392685628 761304 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Highlighting the picture seems to reveal something, although clicking on it doesn't work.
< 1392685682 841790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> view curried (productOf both) (lengthOf folded ((review _Just) (over simple))) (lengthOf folded ((review _Just) (over simple)))
< 1392685686 589851 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1
< 1392685691 394155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1392685697 526850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> view curried (sumOf both) (lengthOf folded ((review _Just) (over simple))) (lengthOf folded ((review _Just) (over simple)))
< 1392685699 68588 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2
< 1392685707 395623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb view curried (sumOf both) (lengthOf folded ((review _Just) (over simple))) (lengthOf folded ((review _Just) (over simple)))
< 1392685707 852696 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1392685734 895200 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1392685794 981459 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now do fib
< 1392685798 17091 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, using lengthOf for getting numbers
< 1392685800 607892 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t lengthOf
< 1392685801 852065 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting (Endo (Endo Int)) s a -> s -> Int
< 1392685813 843999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh Taneb already did
< 1392685821 874961 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but isn't _1 cheating or something
< 1392685831 914746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, _1 is defined in lens
< 1392685841 876989 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but it has a 1 in it.
< 1392685843 855207 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly too easy.
< 1392685848 183333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah
< 1392685854 428029 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let foo1 = 'a' in foo1
< 1392685855 786211 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'a'
< 1392685858 498418 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :_1 is fair
< 1392685862 830633 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise why did you go through all the effort of finding another way to get 1
< 1392685904 557865 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you get 1 from _1?
< 1392685912 152348 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell if i know, i'm not a nerd
< 1392685927 673674 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think tuples are indexed
< 1392685932 71128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's using javascript
< 1392686075 911852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (3,4) & view (each.index 0)
< 1392686077 690821 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `GHC.Types.Int'
< 1392686077 879805 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :               with `p0 b' (Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor a0 b')'
< 1392686077 879990 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: (a0 -> Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor a0 a0)
< 1392686077 880080 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                -> p0 b' (Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor a0 b')
< 1392686077 880173 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   Actual type: (a0 -> Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor a0 a0)
< 1392686095 95633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [3,4] & view (each.index 0)
< 1392686096 634542 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `GHC.Types.Int'
< 1392686096 823348 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :               with `p0 t0 (Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor a0 t0)'
< 1392686096 823516 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: (a0 -> Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor a0 a0)
< 1392686096 823610 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                -> p0 t0 (Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor a0 t0)
< 1392686096 823700 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   Actual type: (a0 -> Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor a0 a0)
< 1392686100 8619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oop
< 1392686101 244506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s
< 1392686133 291722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [3,4] & view (traversed.index 0)
< 1392686134 820446 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `GHC.Types.Int'
< 1392686135 9622 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :               with `p0 t0 (Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor a0 t0)'
< 1392686135 9772 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: (a0 -> Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor a0 a0)
< 1392686135 9862 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                -> p0 t0 (Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor a0 t0)
< 1392686135 9955 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   Actual type: (a0 -> Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor a0 a0)
< 1392686217 725683 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392686223 565036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (3,4) ^. each.index 0
< 1392686225 1876 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `GHC.Types.Int'
< 1392686225 190743 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :               with `p0 b' (Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor a0 b')'
< 1392686225 190892 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: (a0 -> Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor a0 a0)
< 1392686225 190985 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                -> p0 b' (Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor a0 b')
< 1392686225 191111 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   Actual type: (a0 -> Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor a0 a0)
< 1392686309 102607 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinion of procedural SQL? I do not find procedural SQL extensions useful; the features provided by SQLite (now that recursive WITH clauses are supported) is good enough. Wikipedia does say, SQL is influenced by Datalog, so there is some relation to logic programming.
< 1392686339 473536 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :procedural sql is the false helix
< 1392686413 132390 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, two missing features from SQLite which would help would be CREATE FUNCTION (not in the way PL/SQL does it, though), and ALTER ... RENAME TO ... for objects other than tables.
< 1392686463 711603 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better way of CREATE FUNCTION should be one similar to views, so it is like:   CREATE FUNCTION name(args) AS expression;
< 1392686524 889750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb hm i briefly forgot you'd already done fibonacci.
< 1392686525 499788 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1392686573 979561 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.110.60 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg
< 1392686704 427765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To do aggregate functions you should have, before AS, put ACCUMULATING and a list of variables, each one has "name = initial_value UPDATE TO new_value". Do you think that would be better way?
< 1392686788 645719 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example:  CREATE FUNCTION TOTAL(X) ACCUMULATING (T = 0 UPDATE TO T+X) AS T;
< 1392686935 30019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : no pasting allowed? <-- pasting is allowed.  you're just not allowed to look at the result.
< 1392687298 709670 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392687954 460501 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392688523 28409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the last paragraph of this blog post is on topic here http://terrytao.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/finite-time-blowup-for-an-averaged-three-dimensional-navier-stokes-equation/#respond
< 1392688542 666181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops i forgot to take off that #respond
< 1392688554 702820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as did the reddit poster)
< 1392688612 823433 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is my dream to some day understand something tao says
< 1392688629 685184 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1392688652 418765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically terry tao is suggesting that it _could_ in principle be possible to disprove the navier-stokes conjecture by embedding a computer into ideal fluid mechanics
< 1392688672 56447 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o
< 1392688707 810114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something equivalent to a cellular automaton replicator
< 1392688714 438845 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«To visualise the dynamics of such a system, I found it useful to describe this system graphically by a “circuit diagram” that is analogous (but not identical) to the circuit diagrams arising in electrical engineering» damn
< 1392688733 12550 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that this looks anything like a circuit diagram but
< 1392688760 735479 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1392688830 252702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he refers to the lord of the rings movies
< 1392688870 64096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't worry Bike, i don't really understand any of this either)
< 1392688889 688701 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've yet to meet anyone that can understand tao
< 1392688948 583660 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, i probably couldn't understand anyone who could understand tao
< 1392689014 552333 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392690566 769560 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392690590 320952 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 NICK :Guest76828
< 1392690821 719401 :Guest76828!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
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< 1392691312 525957 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1392691388 498217 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392693017 759588 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1392693292 826134 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392693583 644378 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392693808 556511 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392693841 807575 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392694091 786555 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392694439 726376 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392695617 766521 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392696180 747452 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What d'you call the idea that if you choose something randomly it tends to be one of the more common ones?
< 1392696225 727656 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bias?
< 1392696235 540639 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps!
< 1392696311 491800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :distribution?
< 1392696984 575705 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: It isn't precisely clear what you mean.
< 1392697001 436626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm with zzo38 
< 1392697003 561829 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it really matters
< 1392697028 430301 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, I'm trying to compute an estimate of the mode. Enumerating the possibilities is expensive.
< 1392697060 510272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: a poll?
< 1392697092 301584 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it really matters what I call it
< 1392697162 172699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i think the mode may be one of the hardest parameters to estimate if you don't have some other knowledge about the distribution
< 1392697221 159176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you might miss it completely if it's a narrow spike
< 1392697289 297949 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, here it's the case that any of the population is sort of good enough
< 1392697292 723351 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just the mode is the best
< 1392697324 157169 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes, that is what it is called; it is called the mode.
< 1392697338 542006 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At first I didn't understand, but of course, that is what it is.
< 1392697358 868107 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1392697529 408128 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392697762 851387 :password2!~password@197.78.179.33 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392698386 743633 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392698447 688551 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of idea to connect I/O devices to computer and to each other using ethernet, that peer-to-peer is possible, no special drivers are need to write implementations or proxies, and several other things.
< 1392698596 442707 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem!
< 1392698899 661073 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just hook up keyboard to ethernet broadcast
< 1392698904 867190 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone gets every keystroke..p2p!
< 1392698926 934656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in uni we made a Linux kernel driver which let you share a page of memory with every host on your LAN
< 1392698938 289823 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is the other thing; to allow multiple devices to be having multiple devices.
< 1392698962 103904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was p. cool, you could just write into memory and the other nodes would see it by magic
< 1392698968 818407 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DSM!
< 1392698970 237790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example to allow one keyboard on two computers, or multiple computers to share access to a single disk.
< 1392698971 53775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course doing this with good performance is Very Hard
< 1392698982 446008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's also a problem that multi-core systems have to solve
< 1392698986 389018 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A file system could be supported using FTP and Plan 9 protocols.
< 1392699015 822145 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EPARSE "ftp and plan9 protocols"
< 1392699037 298853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would have been fun to extend that project by implementing real cache coherence protocols
< 1392699065 230998 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: Plan9 is a network protocol. To be specific it is the network protocol used for all RPC on Plan 9. :)
< 1392699083 403000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or to have two devices connected to each other without necessarily needing the host computer (other than a router or something like that).
< 1392699148 385490 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/plan9/
< 1392699353 746217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1392699408 841999 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1392699433 321754 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did somebody say Plan9?
< 1392699444 794591 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Longtime fan, never used it.
< 1392699460 127990 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392699463 184174 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be a good idea to make each process in a Linux (or similar) system to have a filesystem associated which is under its directory in /proc/ and if the program doesn't provide a filesystem, then you should get a "disk is not inserted" error when you try to access it.
< 1392699515 618512 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :luserdroog: you should use it.  you can get a vm imgae setup really quickly.
< 1392699553 558617 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I do have some free disk space after offloading some porn....
< 1392700040 631984 :atriq!~Nathan@5.151.64.74 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392700047 95280 :atriq!~Nathan@5.151.64.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My desktop decided to stop working
< 1392700060 466953 :atriq!~Nathan@5.151.64.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :First time I've used my laptop in aaaages
< 1392700118 13421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it pining for the fjords
< 1392700137 477617 :atriq!~Nathan@5.151.64.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pining for a hard drive that hasn't fallen out, I think
< 1392700143 643494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha
< 1392700155 904399 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plan9 ran on big machines in 2002.  so pretty much takes up no disk space today ;-)
< 1392700169 94002 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the core system is itself pretty small
< 1392700198 89126 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can find some demo videos on youtubes, too
< 1392700213 820439 :atriq!~Nathan@5.151.64.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, it's 5 am
< 1392700217 146990 :atriq!~Nathan@5.151.64.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really should sleep
< 1392700242 452097 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't people used to complain about how much resources a Smalltalk VM took up?
< 1392700272 658280 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much resources to they compare to how much DOS takes up?
< 1392700280 740773 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also easy to get and use -- plan9 ports, which give syou much of the plan9 env/tools in unix.  http://swtch.com/plan9port/
< 1392700461 319033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it sounds like you were describing the idea of statistical sampling
< 1392700464 57253 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime atriq 
< 1392700464 442325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people will complain about anything
< 1392700465 61099 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: now its just a small vm for toys on olpcs. :)
< 1392700491 256742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time
< 1392700494 521467 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for oerjan is Tue Feb 18 06:14:51 2014
< 1392700520 562898 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for atriq is Tue Feb 18 05:15:25
< 1392700525 688250 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to obtain OLPCs these days?
< 1392700543 793774 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine people are throwing them away by now
< 1392700562 823147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ask Blaketh
< 1392700573 112981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's in #trains
< 1392700573 947410 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com NICK :SirCmpwn_
< 1392700576 421434 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :google says ebay has some for sale in the $100-$150 range
< 1392700586 414710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at one point he had like 30 of them plus the box that lets you charge 30 batteries at once :)
< 1392700624 873089 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :walmart has new olpc tablets
< 1392700630 590229 :atriq!~Nathan@5.151.64.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My laptop has connectivity problems
< 1392700635 570879 :SirCmpwn_!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com NICK :SirCmpwn
< 1392700645 582159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one laptop per connection
< 1392700705 239013 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got an xo.  the clock battery is out, so i have to manually fix the date to use it properly, but other than that in working order
< 1392700825 41021 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i installed debian on mine but it kept hard-freezing
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< 1392700963 845045 :atriq!~Nathan@5.151.64.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping
< 1392700964 238669 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong
< 1392701015 204775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks fast enough from here
< 1392701021 524687 :atriq!~Nathan@5.151.64.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it keeps dropping
< 1392701040 563482 :atriq!~Nathan@5.151.64.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fast but unstable
< 1392701049 203215 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should install the cray emulator on my xo
< 1392701175 820708 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have "process custom file systems" been implemented at all? I think I have seen some, but they require the program to terminate and retain some directory elsewhere, which doesn't seem very sensible to me.
< 1392701465 448092 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com NICK :SirAway
< 1392701522 317759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of any graphics libraries for SQL?
< 1392701545 408823 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1392701551 838220 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont know what you mean by 'process custom filesystems' 
< 1392701576 489813 :atriq!~Nathan@5.151.64.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My live esolang creation is in 3 days
< 1392701649 646955 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: I mean that in the process directory under /proc/ there would be another directory which represents a filesystem implemented by the program, and is available while it is running. If no filesystem is implemented by the program, then you could get a "disk not inserted" error or something like that, when trying to access it.
< 1392701704 831465 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are programs which implement synthetic filesystems from usre programs, usually using the fuse library and driver.
< 1392701716 968820 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plan9ports (plan 9 from user space) has some in its dist
< 1392701732 560733 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie. when you run acme you get /mnt/acme/* directories for your acme windows.
< 1392701742 109903 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP1xVpMPn8M for a demo
< 1392701751 39367 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but that isn't quite what I meant.
< 1392701764 396638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant you would get it in /proc/1928/fs/ or whatever.
< 1392701779 550658 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a filesystem implemented by a program which is available while its running..  although its not (normally) mounted under /proc
< 1392701780 79185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And if you wanted it elsewhere, you would create a link to it.)
< 1392701784 384884 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be, if you wanted it to
< 1392701801 640961 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can mount it anywhere you feel like, of course
< 1392701851 521647 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the system should be designed to automatically mount it in /proc whether or not the program even provides a filesystem. If more than one instance is then running, you can access each one by their process ID.
< 1392701901 212004 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the advantage?  seems like you'd force each proc to implement at most one fs
< 1392701914 2450 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess to answer your question, no, i have not heard of such a thing
< 1392701959 116010 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it implements more than one, they can be implemented in subdirectories, so you don't need more than one.
< 1392701980 45881 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you didnt want them to have a parent/child relation to each other
< 1392702014 228739 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should implement it for the linux kernel and give it a try
< 1392702041 782264 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't need to; for example you can implement one as /proc/444/fs/A/ and one as /proc/444/fs/B/ but they would generally be the same filesystem actually; if separate implementations exist the program would just proxy them through the A and B directories.
< 1392702098 851562 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or else the process could fork additional processes, if that would help at all.
< 1392702136 841678 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392702158 166573 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll just have all (most) lenses be merely traversals.... a wrong type would get reported as being 0 targets
< 1392702214 454969 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : the Aditi project was a really interesting idea
< 1392702241 497701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example if the program implements FTP access as a local file system, then you might use a command like "ftpfs example.org &" and then you get its process ID; afterward you can close the connection by sending SIGTERM to the process, or perhaps to reset the connection by sending SIGUSR1.
< 1392702289 552359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: What is that?
< 1392702302 857670 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a deductive database system
< 1392702306 456651 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, it was
< 1392702371 166110 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had integration with Prolog, and later with Mercury
< 1392702392 88368 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it work? Do you have an example?
< 1392702407 346746 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/4/ftpfs
< 1392702442 568901 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the project page is 
< 1392702523 122386 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it" being the deductive database parts ? or the integration with Prolog or Mercury ?
< 1392702550 18930 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: I mean the deductive database.
< 1392702576 781625 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know any logic programming (like Prolog) ?
< 1392702624 797487 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I don't know much about it. Wikipedia says SQL is influenced by Datalog, but I don't know much about how Prolog or Datalog works.
< 1392702637 841105 :SirAway!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com NICK :SirCmpmn
< 1392702645 234773 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know SQL though. I also know some about some kinds of synbolic logic.
< 1392702658 556252 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, then you imo should sooner or later learn some Logic Programming. it's quite interesting
< 1392702672 420911 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :preferably sooner :)
< 1392702673 501867 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What relation does it have with SQL?
< 1392702682 895436 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe then I can understand.
< 1392702692 532775 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since, I do know how to write programs in SQL.
< 1392702717 728788 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, SQL has a very ugly syntax
< 1392702743 905560 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logic Programming languages typically borrow their syntax much more directly from first-order predicate logic
< 1392702767 245449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not think the syntax of SQL is so bad.
< 1392702874 847600 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main thing that should have to be changed in a Prolog-like syntax, to make it better applicable to databases, it adding support for records / named arguments, so that you don't have to remember the order of arguments for a thirteen-arity relation
< 1392702878 727657 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: I can see from that, its implementation has to add various things such as using unmount command, trying to access the user's home directory, etc, even though with my suggestion it is a bit more simpler since you can just use SIGTERM to get rid of the connection and that would automatically do everything for you; the directory is automatically gone since it is in /proc instead.
< 1392702917 297860 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQL is partly built as a pointful layer over relational algebra, which is more or less pointless
< 1392702954 498410 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would say sql is totally pointless ;-)
< 1392702972 554317 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe (i meant "pointless" in the technical sense :)
< 1392702976 211890 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: Why?
< 1392702989 238095 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is prolog/datalog syntax actually compilable to something more efficient than brute-force?
< 1392702990 170111 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: mostly for comedic effect.
< 1392703007 65648 :SirCmpmn!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com NICK :SirCmpwn
< 1392703020 639203 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not totally. but unfortunately SQL deviates on several points from the relational model
< 1392703035 628930 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: What kind of points do you mean?
< 1392703051 776785 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and then in addition many DBMSs deviate from the SQL standard)
< 1392703082 430687 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( Datomic is still proprietary, right?
< 1392703102 276961 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I use SQLite, and think many of the extensions that other systems add are mostly worthless.
< 1392703187 730299 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:59] < zzo38> ski: What kind of points do you mean?
< 1392703204 906915 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :giving parameters names
< 1392703231 197318 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Pointfree
< 1392703273 538357 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQL programming does give everything names, such as tables, fields, and even loops are given names (unlike most programming languages).
< 1392703297 698311 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Factor counts as almost fully pointfree, even though you do need to name parameters (just for the types, not for use in code), right?
< 1392703338 513721 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:57] < ski> SQL is partly built as a pointful layer over relational algebra, which is more or less pointless
< 1392703342 459981 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah, he said it was pointful.
< 1392703350 38882 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A view can contain a SELECT statement that doesn't define names for the result fields, although it won't be so useful if you want to try to insert data into the views (probably to cause triggers to fire).
< 1392703436 453713 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : some major points : order of attributes should never matter. nulls. duplicate tuples allowed in an extensional relation if it doesn't have a uniqueness constraintH
< 1392703442 351840 :atriq!~Nathan@5.151.64.74 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1392703480 604135 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo : what do you mean by "brute-force" ?
< 1392703494 240475 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: enumerating through every possibility, ala the List monad
< 1392703514 68308 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo : deductive databases doesn't quite work like that
< 1392703526 123532 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: ok. Prolog has to though, right?
< 1392703533 655732 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but that's different
< 1392703564 448074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: What do you mean, "order of attributes"? And, you can tell it which fields don't have null values, in SQL.
< 1392703585 181957 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logic Programming languages, like Prolog,Mercury,Oz,lambdaProlog, will employ backward-chaining, and will reason a tuple-at-a-time. this most commonly is implemented by backtracking
< 1392703650 558197 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :deductive databases otoh will employ forward-reasoning, and reason set-at-a-time, typically using variants of fixed-point-iteration for recursive intensional predicates
< 1392703682 810830 :password2!~password@197.78.179.33 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
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< 1392703716 473949 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter is typically much more efficient, when you're dealing with huge upto gigantic amounts of data, and only a comparatively very meager amount of rules ("views") in addition to it
< 1392703755 821163 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Prolog, the computation starts from the goal, and reasons backwards, trying to find ways of justifying the goal in terms of new subgoal
< 1392703768 649886 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :until it comes back to the base data
< 1392703812 739588 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tuple-at-a-time means that it follows one solution at a (conceptually) time, tracing it through the logic
< 1392703839 425974 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :one can handle multiple solutions in parallel (OR-Prolog) or in sequence (backtracking)
< 1392703895 759017 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :deductive databases otoh start from the base data, combines such base sets together with each other according to the rules of the intensional database, until it has finally computed the set of tuples corresponding to the query (goal) made by the user
< 1392703954 130211 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and set-at-a-time means that it reasons about the sets of tuples/solutions collectively, iterating over them by joins familiar from relational database theory
< 1392704011 895657 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the extensional part of the database consists of schemata of extensional/base relations, together with the current data (tuples/facts) that are currently stored in the database for these relations
< 1392704058 423957 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the facts in these relations are usually ad hoc, representing some (usually incomplete) view of how the messy world happens to look like at the moment
< 1392704078 622739 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(abbreviated EDB)
< 1392704132 704878 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the intensional part of the database (IDB), in the SQL case consists of views
< 1392704221 590053 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in deductive databases, the IDB *looks* more or less like a program in a Logic Programming language. it consists of mainly rules, and perhaps a few facts as well (thay generally do *not* have an "ad hoc" feel, but rather "must be" what they are, and probably won't change at all in the near future, at least not any more than the rules)
< 1392704275 639382 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, the actual execution of the rules (and facts) here is different, because forward-chaining and set-at-a-time rather than backward-chaining and tuple-at-a-time, as mentioned above
< 1392704373 158685 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, one difference between Aditi and basic Datalog is that Aditi had support for handling non-atomic datums in tuples)
< 1392704489 261403 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the simplest examples of IDB relations is transitive closure
< 1392704588 848533 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392704639 782108 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not quite understand what it related to databases.
< 1392704678 852120 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'd first declare something along the lines of
< 1392704723 234216 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  :- type airport == string.
< 1392704734 939744 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1392704738 307425 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then what?
< 1392704754 866533 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392704769 164520 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  :- type distance == floating.
< 1392704777 993811 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  :- base flight(airport,airport,distance).
< 1392704789 614579 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1392704793 849711 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OLPC! I loved my olpc to death. :(
< 1392704806 640995 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  :- mode flight(out,out,out) is nondet.
< 1392704810 95522 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392704823 728699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does ":- mode flight(out,out,out) is nondet." mean?
< 1392704825 539805 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm deviating a bit from the actual Aditi syntax here)
< 1392704833 321856 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not irreparable. I broke the pin in the power jack.
< 1392704876 327423 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a mode declaration, and this mode declaration, with all `out's, and with `nondet' would probably be provided by default for base/extensional relations
< 1392704919 44892 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not understand what that means.
< 1392704938 700010 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it basically says that we can generate (output) values for the three attributes of this relation, and that we may get any number of solutions ("non-deterministic", zero or more solutions/tuples)
< 1392704958 541162 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK
< 1392704976 648636 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think for every base relation, we will have a mode with only `out's and with determinism `nondet'
< 1392705009 163228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it different if you don't put "out" in there, then?
< 1392705013 265024 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe in some cases it would make sense to change the determinism from `nondet' here, i'm not sure)
< 1392705023 695908 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's mostly interesting for IDB predicates
< 1392705055 841485 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so
< 1392705096 358108 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  :- pred trip(airport,airport,distance).
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< 1392705125 724161 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  :- mode trip(in,out) is nondet.
< 1392705139 5642 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, we should get distance as well
< 1392705143 65346 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  :- mode trip(in,out,out) is nondet.
< 1392705155 981026 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how does that mean, then?
< 1392705156 678240 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  :- mode trip(out,in,out) is nondet.
< 1392705248 631032 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first of these two modes mean that we may query on the trip/3 relation (which is basically a view, in SQL terminology), providing the starting airport, and get back a set of triples with that starting airport, and all possible ending airports, and the cumulative distance travelled
< 1392705269 23593 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the second mode, in the other direction, from ending to starting
< 1392705276 52017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1392705331 239299 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(possibly there isn't much difference in this specific example, since i suppose flights between airports are usually(?) bidirectional, i.e. offered in both directions -- perhaps this isn't to be assumed in general)
< 1392705374 698219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although SQL views don't take inputs, and may not even contain any meaningful data (when I write SQL programs at least, perhaps half of the time the views don't contain any data and are write-only).
< 1392705392 292149 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, trip/2 itself doesn't take any inputs
< 1392705404 545133 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a specific *mode* of it can take inputs
< 1392705412 435490 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i just recalled
< 1392705437 844625 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :extra modes on base relations will in many cases amount to indices on the bsae relations
< 1392705441 15390 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so
< 1392705442 419633 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, what? What is trip/2?
< 1392705452 381659 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, trip/3
< 1392705455 174186 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1392705478 845692 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  :- mode flight(in,out,out) is nondet.
< 1392705499 354760 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :expresses that you can index on the starting airport in the flight/3 relation
< 1392705505 362799 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  :- mode flight(out,in,out) is nondet.
< 1392705511 842098 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :expresses that you can index on the ending airport in the flight/3 relation
< 1392705548 972770 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and yes, as i said above, it would be better to use records or named arguments, instead of relying on argument order for the roles of the arguments)
< 1392705564 211047 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, trip/3 can be defined by the *clauses*
< 1392705580 411243 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  trip(Original,Destination,Distance) :- flight(Original,Destination,Distance).
< 1392705594 851947 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK, so it is like indexing, then.
< 1392705620 495059 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  trip(Original,Destination,DistanceA + DistanceB) :-
< 1392705625 859799 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :    flight(Original,IntermediateStop,DistanceA),
< 1392705630 919685 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :    flight(IntermediateStop,Destination,DistanceB).
< 1392705680 963411 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :these two rules (rules and facts are collectively known as clauses) would in SQL probably be expressed as a `union' of two `select' queries
< 1392705698 734358 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the `:-' means "if" (in the logical sense)
< 1392705706 769518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that would be UNION
< 1392705723 442608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see what it is meaning now
< 1392705741 10447 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although then you will have no more than two flights, it looks like
< 1392705749 387263 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the first clause says that one can make a trip from `Original' to `Destination' travelling `Distance', *if* one can take a (single) flight from `Original' to `Destination' travelling `Distance'.
< 1392705754 889129 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am involving a lot of other people's intellectual resources on this project, I better follow through on it
< 1392705760 653173 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, sorry, mistyped
< 1392705766 406402 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :second clause should be
< 1392705769 952958 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  trip(Original,Destination,DistanceA + DistanceB) :-
< 1392705776 137555 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :    trip(Original,IntermediateStop,DistanceA),
< 1392705781 848633 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :    trip(IntermediateStop,Destination,DistanceB).
< 1392705787 913250 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is better.
< 1392705813 765487 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(first i was thinking of an assymetric way of expressing it, but then i changed it to symmetric. unfortunately in the wrong way :)
< 1392705840 625815 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so the `,' separating the two trip/3 "calls" to the right of the `:-' ("if") here means "and", logical conjunction
< 1392705853 836460 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is clear
< 1392705897 457022 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the second clause says that one can make a trip from `Original' to `Destination' travelling `DistanceA + DistanceB', *if* one can make a trip from `Original' to `IntermediateStop' travelling `DistanceA' *and* make a trip from `IntermediateStop' to `Destination' travelling `DistanceB'.
< 1392705920 746489 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, for the first mode
< 1392705923 466121 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  :- mode flight(in,out,out) is nondet.
< 1392705928 740741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I can understand that much already.
< 1392705946 51746 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the engine would probably internally rewrite the second clause to instead read
< 1392705948 275342 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mode, I don't quite understand yet
< 1392705954 624889 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  trip(Original,Destination,DistanceA + DistanceB) :-
< 1392705956 184924 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :    trip(Original,IntermediateStop,DistanceA),
< 1392705962 902635 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :    flight(IntermediateStop,Destination,DistanceB).
< 1392705970 232930 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :for efficiency reasons
< 1392705982 291019 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I would think too, to do like that
< 1392706013 329264 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do that in SQL too by using recursive queries (something introduced this month, in fact)
< 1392706024 161371 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the basic idea for computing trip/3 is to start by the empty set
< 1392706032 526255 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :then initialize by filling it with all the tuples/rows/facts from flight/3 -- this corresponds to the first clause above
< 1392706067 456365 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : yes, however, iiuc deductive databases still can make more general sorts of recursion than recursive `with'
< 1392706091 80201 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next step is to enter a fixed-point iteration loop
< 1392706126 628678 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the (original) second clause for trip/3 says how we from tuples in trip/3 *and* from tuples in trip/3 can compute tuples in trip/3
< 1392706139 359407 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is basically a join (plus a little arithmetic and projection)
< 1392706181 599382 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, you use the recursive rule of trip/3 to add succesively more and more tuples to the (temporarily computed) intensional flight/3 relation
< 1392706202 621251 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, if a tuple is already in the current approximation for flight/3, you don't add it again
< 1392706218 944883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you give an example of such more general sorts though?
< 1392706223 248455 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the iteration stops when nothing new was added in the last step
< 1392706347 697226 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the obvious first optimization to this process is to only combine *new* flight tuples with all the existing flight tuples, and also all the existing flight tuples with only the *new* ones, at each step
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< 1392706414 837487 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that in each join, for each combination of two tuples combined, one from the "left" trip/3 call, and one from the "right" one, at least one of those two tuples was newly added in the last iteration step
< 1392706426 452499 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is known as semi-naive execution
< 1392706457 91705 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are several further optimization steps, often depending on the actual structure of the recursive rule
< 1392706484 700096 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, several further possible optimization steps one could apply, i mean
< 1392706546 318436 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of these is that, in the case that the original starting airport (in terms of the example above) is known, it is better to use the alternative formulation of the recursive rule, with one call to trip/2 and one to flight/3, joining these instead
< 1392706583 118248 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way you only add one more airport to the conceptual (not stored/computed in the example) list of airports along the trip
< 1392706612 388901 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the gain is that there's in general *many* ways to arrive at a string by concatenating smaller strings
< 1392706646 122569 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, the original (unoptimized) version will be inefficient in that it will recompute the same tuple very many times
< 1392706654 689342 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :already with
< 1392706657 577783 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  a,b,c
< 1392706670 865442 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two different ways to built it up from parts
< 1392706673 904220 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  (a,b),c
< 1392706675 536097 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and
< 1392706677 649786 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  a,(b,c)
< 1392706707 231255 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the number of nodes rise, the number of possible ways to arrive at the list rises at a faster rate
< 1392706720 401067 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't recall whether it's exponential, or only polynomial rn)
< 1392706729 56359 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hm, probably exponential)
< 1392706745 600722 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, one could consider a query
< 1392706777 64277 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ?- trip(sydney,Destination,Distance).
< 1392706785 488507 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(capital letter signifies a variable)
< 1392706793 909859 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would be logically equivalent to saying
< 1392706813 270995 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ?- Origin = sydney,trip(Origin,Destination,Distance).
< 1392706844 136665 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, it's inefficient to compute *all* the trips whatsoever, and only *then* join with the `Origin = sydney' condition
< 1392706868 392861 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, this is conceptually a join. though of a special sort which is a projection)
< 1392706907 983917 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, regardless of whether you write the former or the latter query (`?-' is the query prompt, btw), the system will actually compute this in a more efficient way
< 1392706960 441535 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will note that the `Origin' will be passed along unchanged between the call to the left of `:-', and the recursive call, all the way down to the call to the base relation flight/3
< 1392706999 223840 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, it will internally compute a specialized version of trip/3 that has propagated the information `Origin = sydney' all the way down to the fetch from the base relation
< 1392707016 833911 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is of course where the extra mode (the index) on the base relation comes in
< 1392707035 250139 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, we only select flights taking off from `sydney' out of potentially very many flights
< 1392707079 90344 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the classic general transformation that can propagate "constraints" from the query down the intensional clauses is called "magic sets"
< 1392707098 52369 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are also other transformations, sometimes better, but often only applying in special cases
< 1392707180 16080 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dances
< 1392707275 193199 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull:     if t%(1<<15)==0: c+=2
< 1392707276 590741 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :    return (t%32)|(t*6)&(0xFF*(~t>>11&1))|(t*4)&(0xFF*(t>>12&1))|(((~t>>10)&(~t>>11)&1)*rand(256*256))|int(t*[1.25,1.25,1.5,1.5,1.66666,1.6666,1.5,1.5,2,2,1.875,1.66666,1.5,1.25,1.125,1][(t/2048+c)%16])<<3
< 1392707287 496772 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also add more complex constraints, like
< 1392707303 886219 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ?- Origin = sydney,Distance < 1000.0,trip(Origin,Destination,Distance).
< 1392707355 227087 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that inequality constraint would be used to ignore temporary flights that already have too high a distance, not bothering to involve such tuples in further joins
< 1392707381 922712 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : i suppose this gives a starting idea of some of what deductive databases are about
< 1392707390 482149 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to leave presently, though .. :/
< 1392707487 684377 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
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< 1392712106 124985 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the time i look in this channel is like "dafuq am i readin"
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< 1392720989 234113 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fark.com/comments/8146474/Ship-not-allowed-to-deliver-40000-tons-of-much-needed-road-salt-to-New-Jersey-because-A-The-ship-cant-dock-because-of-weather-B-Nobody-will-unload-it-because-of-a-dock-worker-strike-C-The-ship-isnt-carrying-an-American-flag
< 1392721004 144785 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like an idiot, the comments are saying everyone knows what is actually meant
< 1392721005 391185 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't
< 1392721008 74624 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :til
< 1392721020 274591 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shoudl probably be seeping
< 1392721022 212606 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slepeing
< 1392723795 180681 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know, if a program licensed under GPL is linked with SQLite and uses sqlite3_enable_load_extension(db,1) then what are the license requirements? SQLite itself is public domain.
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< 1392725980 894680 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://ang.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C4%93afodtramet
< 1392726101 94811 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there ANYONE alive today who natively speaks old English?
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< 1392726215 45971 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, this isn't genuine Old English, is it?
< 1392726221 328312 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As a general rule for the OE wiki, try to remember the following OE guidelines to give this wiki a consistent look and feel:"
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< 1392726383 704074 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: as fair as I understand, it is real old english with neologisms for words not in the real old english
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< 1392727883 388194 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like the scots wikipedia but even dumber
< 1392727981 498433 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
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< 1392728168 977055 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Is that bytebeat?
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< 1392730204 88331 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://osrc.dfm.io/Sgeo flipped from me being a Haskell coder to being a Racket coder. With one push.
< 1392730349 434503 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg
< 1392730382 749909 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://osrc.dfm.io/int-e lists zeckendorf first, I need to push some more stuff to lambdabot ...
< 1392730481 82818 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also unsure what recruiters would make of making new repositories at 3am. heh.
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< 1392731273 598329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no: after having that one semi-punny alliterative homework problem title ("Conditional contradiction conundrum"), now I'm tempted to make another one.
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< 1392739952 821315 :nooodl!~nooodl@107.156-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_access_principle#Problems :|||
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< 1392739995 695596 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerds using standard references from science fiction you say
< 1392740745 519194 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So when I got out at the gas station after driving home from work today I saw smoke from the front right wheel. At the moment I hate being a car owner. -_-
< 1392740777 282007 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, any new photos to cheer me up?
< 1392740982 641372 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a driver's license
< 1392740997 671626 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for almost a month now
< 1392741014 347012 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :growin' up
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< 1392741106 912276 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1392741266 907886 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392741267 138360 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1392741342 444002 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean a temporary one, i still have one lesson this month and two next month
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< 1392741566 39253 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, oh? I guess it works differently over there then, never heard of temporary licenses
< 1392741610 27363 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl
< 1392741623 579246 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :first you drive with a piece of paper for a few weeks, then you get a temporary license in the mail, then you get a permanent one after 1-2 years.
< 1392741639 538087 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, huh, okay that isn't how it works in Sweden
< 1392741665 854152 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it costs about 2000 euros
< 1392741695 374438 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do get a piece of paper for a couple of weeks after passing the tests (both the theoretical and the practical ones), but then you get your proper license in the mail.
< 1392741728 34310 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl really this time
< 1392741730 896574 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :byes
< 1392741972 7817 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does dev C++ have tools to auto add classes and such?
< 1392741976 712954 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do I have to do it manually
< 1392742387 353791 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm
< 1392742388 819584 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see
< 1392742397 44667 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should I use for a quantum computer simulation
< 1392742406 435566 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I need a QUANTUM STATE thing, for a start
< 1392742435 34881 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then add some spin and momentum attribute
< 1392742456 592235 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such that they are arrays of values
< 1392742459 805037 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the superposition
< 1392742495 879774 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then multiparticle states as arrays of one particle states, with maybe some indicator of the superselectors/commutation rules
< 1392742497 618933 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some shit
< 1392742615 686235 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since it's a finite discretized space, I can consider that the momentum is an int
< 1392742628 123802 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though a big one
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< 1392746637 358857 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: yes. in python.
< 1392747124 606749 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thrill of the forbidden
< 1392747134 315115 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing in C++ and making all my shit public
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< 1392750745 81827 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, I need the shortest way to set the current cell to a random value - either 0 or 1
< 1392750771 333539 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :in BF
< 1392750798 860969 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no way to do that
< 1392750806 431548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nyuszika7h: BF is deterministic
< 1392750806 987337 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a deterministic language
< 1392750810 968093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :best you could do would be a pseudorandom number
< 1392750817 339587 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :pseudorandom is fine
< 1392750819 571276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case the better the quality of the randomness you want
< 1392750821 852229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the longer the program will be
< 1392750846 960127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to maintain PRNG state somewhere you could easily access on the tape
< 1392750863 240579 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, simplest would be to use 1 bit of state and just alternate, but that doesn't look very random
< 1392750873 793078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you need the pseudorandomness for? there might be an easier solution
< 1392750892 581791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392750894 725389 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dricoin barbacoin vercoin ozdecoin trianiconcoin aeedius'scoin ()coin dupdogma-2dcoin unlcoin sumambalzbaumiccoin neocoin brocoin xlikecoin snaitcoin puzzcoin basisheadcoin alizicoin tbittcoin skucoin d16coin
< 1392750905 278930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :()coin
< 1392750932 273192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this `coins thing is actually really realistic
< 1392750934 866954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :much better than `words
< 1392750936 272398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words
< 1392750938 132037 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :epicch
< 1392750944 255893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh d16coin
< 1392750947 417380 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that's the terminal object of Crypcurren, the category of cryptocurrencies
< 1392750952 685145 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need to randomly move either left or right, but it would need to check for staying in range too, so forget it, it's probably gonna be long, not suitable for golfing :P
< 1392750959 307576 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mythical 16-sided coin
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< 1392750966 60651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nyuszika7h: yeah, I don't think it'd be golf-suitable
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< 1392751963 111316 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good PRNG for BF is an interesting question, though
< 1392751966 576093 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps a LFSR
< 1392752013 758133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: using one bit per cell?
< 1392752018 455001 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd work, I think
< 1392752030 148863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was good enough for the DVD CCA right https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/css-brainfuck.txt
< 1392752033 223726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :90s kids remember
< 1392752034 608262 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual shifting would be awkward, though
< 1392752044 856562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you allowed the RNG state to move along the tape
< 1392752086 41967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm
< 1392752526 895659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Here's a photo: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140215-mystery.jpg
< 1392752615 522926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this?
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< 1392752638 721873 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like a speaker or a microphone
< 1392752828 1807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a closeup of the surface of one of these reflector things, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140218-ref.jpg
< 1392752914 520628 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow
< 1392752929 177628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's about 7-8 cm tall, for a size reference.
< 1392752942 33452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1392752955 606219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this one of those thing which reflects light especially in the direction from which it came?
< 1392752978 962258 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Here's what I get if I turn the led "flash" on in the phone the latter picture was taken with: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140218-ref2.jpg
< 1392752980 669870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how big physically is one pixel in that image?
< 1392753004 725906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it basically made of a bunch of tiny corner cubes? i never understood how those work
< 1392753021 97229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a handy diagram, I saw it.
< 1392753036 985239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Comparison_of_retroreflectors.svg
< 1392753043 325931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's more like type 1.
< 1392753049 282075 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout
< 1392753081 463265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except you need a corner of a cube in three dimensions, of course.
< 1392753124 366784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's easy to figure out since if you take the incident ray in the coordinate axis set up by the edges of the cube, then one wall will do x = -x, second one will do y = -y and third one will do z = -z.
< 1392753305 582366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for pixel size, in other photos the width of the entire image (at the distance that's in focus) has generally been somewhere around 5 mm.
< 1392753428 922381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So given the original 5472x3648 resolution, one pixel would correspond (very approximately) to 1 µm. Though that's been scaled to 25% (so 4 µm?), I haven't really been getting pixel-sharp images out of that setup.
< 1392753504 990354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like they say: when you all you have is a cobbled-together macro thing, everything looks like it's in need of magnification.
< 1392753695 618016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1392753748 957676 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to guesstimate distances, the diameter of the inner thread in https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140203-ding.jpg is (like it says) 52 mm and if you look at the dent, you get (scaled to 50% because there really isn't any detail above that) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140218-ding.jpg
< 1392753770 723124 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should photograph some mushroom gills!!!
< 1392753805 343327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're getting 4μm resolution you might be able to identify general spore shape and size
< 1392753951 664524 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably should look at something natural, yes. Not that I think I have any mushrooms handy right now.
< 1392754040 98192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apropos nothing, today when getting home from the city the bus in front had a license plate reading "KMC-NNN", where NNN stands for three decimal digits I no longer remember.
< 1392754044 928243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1392754122 284775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL you can declare uninhabited types in Rust. also that you can crash the compiler if you use unsafe hax to create values of that type anyway
< 1392754516 833188 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds p. useful
< 1392754537 234269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1392754779 866780 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know how some degenerate code ends up being primarily layers and wrappers around other stuff with almost nothing doing anything real?
< 1392754842 290303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my experience basically all software is like that
< 1392754866 275689 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you could make an esolang around that, where each method/function/unit can do extremely little by itself
< 1392754875 76205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called Java  *rimshot*
< 1392754909 58018 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no, Java allows methods to do a lot if you just write them like that :)
< 1392754935 27174 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :had a Java project where one method tended to break JVMs because it was too big
< 1392754962 3122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1392755046 473870 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1392755191 843822 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, on another floor of the same building, a C++ project came up against VS6's limit of 65536 lines in one source file)
< 1392755306 413459 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 bits ought to be enough for everybody!
< 1392755392 915929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty annoying limit
< 1392755449 501053 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was lines in the file itself, not counting include files etc
< 1392755465 482762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, 65k lines isn't that implausible, especially if it's generated
< 1392755508 72217 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if its generated you can make lines very short
< 1392755523 907337 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :amalgamated sqlite is longer than 64k lines I think
< 1392755532 556255 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh this is line count, not line length. ooops
< 1392755801 479989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the longest source file in Linux 3.14-rc3 is 28,729 lines and has four comments (not counting "Copyright (c) 2010 Broadcom Corporation" at the top)
< 1392755804 282245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/net/wireless/brcm80211/brcmsmac/phy/phy_n.c
< 1392755833 642929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has huge tables but it's at least 50% actual code
< 1392755936 809814 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :vim's sourcefiles are all like 10k
< 1392755955 603349 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :lines each.. and that's how they are "maintained"
< 1392755981 998251 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also use this horrible indentation alternating between four spaces and a single tab, for who knows what reason
< 1392756086 97378 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gross
< 1392756110 744204 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice how the comments in that broadcom thing are all useless
< 1392756128 550593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that indentation's pretty common in older sources
< 1392756157 531246 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is there any sensical reason behind it?
< 1392756160 314902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a "correct" way to mix tabs and spaces but almost nobody can do it consistently
< 1392756164 515185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yeah, saves bandwidth
< 1392756172 631716 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose
< 1392756177 461241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the standard is that tabs are 8 characters
< 1392756186 949703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the start of a line
< 1392756201 123896 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a compressed form of 4-space indentation that looks right on anything but a badly misconfigured editor
< 1392756201 930660 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, sure. But still, the indentation is somewhat negligible compared to the actual code, isn't it?
< 1392756214 956124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Welp, I took a picture of the screen of my (2012) Nexus 7, and one Nexus-pixel is approximately 140 image pixels wide. The screen is nominally 216 ppi, so... 140*216 = 30240 image pixels/inch -> 0.84 µm/pixel. Though it's really impossible to judge how much actual detail I could get, since all that light is just blobs.
< 1392756226 248500 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I'm not so sure
< 1392756226 832047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1392756238 5118 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the average length of a line of code isn't that long, especially if in deeply nested indentation
< 1392756241 633354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the indentation precedes every line
< 1392756270 759374 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Btw, I've seen that abused in python golfing
< 1392756289 976419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Python refused to compile code that mixes tabs and spaces?
< 1392756291 480127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps not
< 1392756292 772718 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., use spaces for the first level of indentation and tabs for the next
< 1392756308 767965 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it either sees tabs as a hard eight spaces, or applies the regular expansion rule
< 1392756850 735811 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140218-art.jpg
< 1392756866 711206 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :vt100 lets you place the tab stops freely
< 1392756976 27471 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if it has a maximum number of tabs though or if you could place one in every column if you wanted to
< 1392758088 782896 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's so meta
< 1392758116 699448 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, if displayed on a TV
< 1392758848 967358 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :tabs(1) allows you to configure tabstops too
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< 1392758998 608829 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[10:46] < ais523> I thought Python refused to compile code that mixes tabs and  spaces?
< 1392759009 745622 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a -t option to warn and a -tt option to error on mixed tabs.
< 1392759024 310501 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but otherwise it has a rule to treat tabs like a seq of spaces
< 1392759105 594313 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it uses tab stops of 8 spaces)
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< 1392763416 369044 :thrasos!~thrasos@80.244.17.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
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< 1392763607 828451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1392763612 156663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome thrasos
< 1392763613 243220 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13thrasos: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.)
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< 1392766638 487325 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello spiette
< 1392766639 291646 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spiettello
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< 1392766653 657881 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia!
< 1392766659 531216 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle.
< 1392766774 839992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only elly came back
< 1392766782 360471 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elly?
< 1392766785 996203 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elly is the hanks of `ello
< 1392766799 911530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello elly
< 1392766800 810669 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ello
< 1392766810 919637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1392766823 299800 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellœrjan.
< 1392766824 168087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello cinderella
< 1392766825 128405 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cinderello
< 1392766834 36178 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck cinderello
< 1392766834 506007 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information
< 1392766837 15261 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh.
< 1392766837 197460 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello pachebel
< 1392766838 83323 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pachebelello
< 1392766856 504075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello swell
< 1392766857 432006 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :swellello
< 1392766872 443504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wello
< 1392766914 952064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, *+ l
< 1392766961 371265 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sings “Still alone in o-hell-o // See the deadly nightshade grow ♪”
< 1392767135 228038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like o-hi-o but with more sulphur
< 1392767334 413097 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohio doesn't seem to be particularly sulphurous ← http://www2.ohiodnr.gov/Portals/oilgas/_MSDS/baker-hughes/CD-32.pdf
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< 1392767382 751022 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except probably in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulphur_Springs,_Ohio
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< 1392768754 933769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rages at vim
< 1392768796 567062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recorded a macro with a substitution in it, and the macro was bizarrely broken
< 1392768817 791545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I eventually realized that it had literally recorded me typing :, up arrow, up arrow, enter to recall one of my previous commands
< 1392768842 629340 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so it would always run the second-to-most-recent :-command, whatever that is
< 1392768936 972280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that was actually vim's fault, kmc
< 1392769029 444410 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a moment I thought that end-of-sentence “kmc” was a new kind of “hth”.
< 1392769069 653378 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how do ya figure
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< 1392770071 851472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is a kind of hth, boily
< 1392770180 420926 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Amusing fact. Your registerless BFC borks on LostKng.b.
< 1392770256 989313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
< 1392770259 740450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know how/why?
< 1392770276 898992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has clamping cell overflow (which is unusual) and zero-on-EOF
< 1392770299 66673 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not especially. I just know that it ends up outputting a large number of strings in response to any input.
< 1392770309 789067 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LostKng doesn't use overflow or EOF at all though.
< 1392770338 631237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it run off the end of the tape?
< 1392770350 908074 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't *appear* to?
< 1392770353 912076 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll check though.
< 1392770365 704563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it is an enormous program too
< 1392770369 751768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's just toooooo big
< 1392770380 680610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know what would cause that but
< 1392770384 981953 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did get a binary that executes at least.
< 1392770386 71860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :640K should be enough for any program
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< 1392772304 287935 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 4K is enough to simulate a universe, 640K is overkill
< 1392772332 755776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well some people might want to simulate more than one universe.
< 1392772343 816172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :many worlds and all
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< 1392773533 908591 :nooodl_!~nooodl@107.156-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg
< 1392774230 782593 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if Canada is a simulation? or even worse: what if only 256 KiB are needed?
< 1392774251 511158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canada
< 1392774252 482799 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada is Big Scotland. Like, you know, very big.
< 1392774261 367562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canadian
< 1392774262 184641 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canadian? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1392774283 515640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that entry may have been changed.
< 1392774308 920171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if the repository browser were working, i might actually be able to check it.
< 1392774312 417712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :slow riot for new zero kanada
< 1392774336 399844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor has a pretty stable connection...
< 1392774339 600050 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can you translate what kmc just uttered?
< 1392774340 55311 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the first big number is the and of the scheme's i'm familiar with, but that's what they're there for a second and i'll get right on implementing it. it's quite good
< 1392774351 280177 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh.
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< 1392778029 610635 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1392778074 829009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION plays the sad trombone for quintopia
< 1392778095 86667 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the saddest!
< 1392778149 509439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY THE SHORT YET FROWNING FACE
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< 1392780824 941432 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: because boily only gets online when i'm at work nowadays
< 1392780891 794556 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1392780902 864539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish
< 1392781624 170198 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you are like antisocial and stuff right? :P
< 1392781704 459197 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't Gregor run his IRC from a VPS?
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< 1392782964 393295 :ping!~Kevin@2601:4:4500:887:9008:c58e:b349:2da8 NICK :Guest62748
< 1392782998 417864 :Guest62748!~Kevin@2601:4:4500:887:9008:c58e:b349:2da8 NICK :v^
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< 1392785344 777858 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :" PT621 him-5(e1490) myIs4 [PKD-2::GFP +Punc-122::GFP]V" biologists need your help to come up with sensible naming schemes
< 1392785486 207665 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: InChIKey?
< 1392785517 927395 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1392785534 31574 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no, it's a nematode line
< 1392785551 5594 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh inChl
< 1392785585 783222 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is fully hashed!
< 1392785592 194475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :philip k dick with 2 green fluorescent protein
< 1392785592 379589 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy for searching!
< 1392785613 435630 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you have two more problems
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< 1392785667 377716 :pong!~Kevin@2601:4:4500:887:98bb:8096:35e4:8ef4 NICK :Guest58789
< 1392785702 88893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i think Bike and lifthrasiir have been taking lessons from you
< 1392785702 509555 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tried to cram cash in without remembering to select payment type ( and cash is the only free var in the program
< 1392785710 316875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also kmc 
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< 1392785893 453768 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1392785947 968019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
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< 1392786666 975801 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 946
< 1392786667 618218 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 946: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily
< 1392786770 788198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh list
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< 1392788015 165578 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392788016 642612 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tagtcoin bratcoin bombcoin pooncoin unlolbrokcoin percoin javacoin bisiringtoncoin aflipcoin greturninicoin damcoin rwritschecoin aheiiicoin bfmcoin lintecoin pcoin fithmacoin benacoin iintecoin foodcoin
< 1392788035 959925 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOINCoin
< 1392788049 427747 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392788050 875289 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esrrcoin wuecoin ligataticoin thcoin fullyidocoin otlastillcoin betcoin doncecoin computecoin roscoin tricoin cabracoin fonnailcoin machipcoin poocoin suxcoin donaligaterwingcoin baggecoin 0.24coin willgolcoin
< 1392788054 856779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many bratcoin for a currywurst
< 1392788071 390915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :esrcoin ..................
< 1392788083 402518 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :esrRcoin
< 1392788097 95195 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :one foodcoin and one bratcoin for a currywurst
< 1392788109 966808 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :combined
< 1392788110 222892 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense
< 1392788115 911029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a whole crafting system a la minecraft
< 1392788144 40894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy, an MMO where assets and long-term character stats are stored in a distributed blockchain
< 1392789799 498197 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I feel as if "Cheating At Cookie Clicker" would make a great introductory JavaScript topic"
< 1392789946 955664 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If your infinite hotel is full, new guests should be turned away. Why inconvenience existing guests for no increase in revenue?"
< 1392790019 103753 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheating at cookie clicker is one of the saddest things imaginable
< 1392790030 840947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :set theory / hotel management double major
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< 1392793612 410116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log [`]olist 946
< 1392793612 963195 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/hackenv/bin/log: 2: cd: can't cd to /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ grep: ????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory
< 1392793615 858691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1392793649 979577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been done
< 1392793654 216033 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :checked the log manually
< 1392793937 268755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now we'll be free of olists for over a month!
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< 1392801501 701610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392801503 235981 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyclicoin cowcoin sebcoin achcoin thersethaxnmcoin this=thacoin alphabecoin bftitcoin athcoin paitcoin thratacoin flipovcoin manciacoin yeologicoin whocoin sorcentcoin snycoin moniacoin verginexteencoin folcoin
< 1392802855 137046 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-161-205.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392803294 565557 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's time to modify that script to sometimes use prefixes other than coin, such as "dollar", "money", "credit", "gold", "zorkmid" etc
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< 1392804508 403748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you mean "suffixes"?
< 1392805936 543832 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392806415 871508 :MoALTz_!~no@109.243.161.205 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392807549 76828 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, suffixes
< 1392807553 607115 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, I always mix those up
< 1392807570 37044 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno why, I know prefix is at the beginning and suffix is at the end but somehow don't write that
< 1392807577 529155 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pre-" means "before"
< 1392809224 889844 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392809235 416383 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
< 1392809470 641272 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good pre-multi-A-post-exclamation-H day.
< 1392810044 957810 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OotS will only return on March 31!
< 1392810103 573307 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, I seem to have lost the new fruit jam I bought the other day somewhere in my apartment.)
< 1392811076 363361 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392814790 906334 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there energy drinks whose only active ingredient is caffeine?
< 1392814811 446545 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Starting to think that the taurine in Red Bull isn't just a marketing gimmick, like I was hoping, but actually dangerous
< 1392814998 494760 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've switched to coffee
< 1392815108 555695 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coffee is too hot and doesn't taste good
< 1392815151 464112 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter is of course a problematic problem
< 1392815180 290661 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392815204 298584 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Red Bull tastes soo good
< 1392815205 779511 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1392815407 8125 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily why is this?!
< 1392815407 247067 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1392815439 775590 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably shouldn't have @asked that
< 1392815473 343042 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it doesn't even say why
< 1392815475 71359 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring
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< 1392817574 742890 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: if coffee is too hot, have you tried ice coffee?
< 1392817590 450606 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or coke?
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< 1392818075 50337 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1392818112 797155 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :could someone explain how PRNGs work in BF? I don't understand how randomness can work in it, without relying on user input
< 1392818288 911972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably nothing particularly BF-specific about pseudorandom sequences.
< 1392818398 944792 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, you can't construct a sequence that actually /is/ random, so you try to construct one that /looks/ random
< 1392818413 510388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :via using some formula that's designed to produce random-looking output
< 1392818448 348138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are basically three qualities of PRNG, "good enough to fool a human", "good enough for use in statistics", "crypto-hard to figure out what's coming next without knowledge of the internal state"
< 1392819062 905662 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1392819215 36969 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"4"
< 1392819240 393691 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :[-]++++
< 1392819775 845517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +[>>>>+++++++++++++++++[-<<<[->+>+<<]>>[-<<+>>]>]<<<[-]>[-<+>]<+++++++.<]
< 1392819780 215655 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :~e���ax��]4{2Y��nU�s�Qh��M$k"I��^E� ...out of time!
< 1392819782 396111 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Good enough."
< 1392819849 824734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's just x(n) = (17*x(n-1) + 7) % 256, and I just took two small-ish primes that aren't necessarily very optimal.)
< 1392822127 913209 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 QUIT :Quit: :qa!
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< 1392823355 969238 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ping
< 1392823360 948829 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pong!
< 1392823473 828085 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bot
< 1392823474 55210 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
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< 1392827995 224849 :pong!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :Guest9005
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< 1392829305 461429 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: not good enough to fool human
< 1392829342 867114 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :low bit is   x(n) = (17*x(n-1) + 7) % 2
< 1392829350 266112 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with period 2.
< 1392829516 19525 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1392829530 124544 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That really depends on the human.
< 1392829543 22564 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many would take a look at "~e¼ƒºaxÿö]4{2Yð÷nU¬sªQhïæM$k"Iàç^Eœ" and say "looks random".
< 1392829566 903732 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wrote it as integers it would be much more obvious
< 1392829864 313541 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> take(10, gen(1))
< 1392829865 17922 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1, 24, 159, 150, 253, 212, 27, 210, 249, 144]
< 1392829971 934070 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> map(mod2, take(10, gen(1)))
< 1392829972 637871 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0]
< 1392830172 216298 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started with x(0) = 0, if you want to be picky.
< 1392830179 845890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But sure.)
< 1392830303 21885 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead of [1,0,1,0...]  you get [0,1,0,1,....]    the two are isomorphic ;-)
< 1392830347 541141 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, at least it's got full period of 256 overall.
< 1392830830 788292 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, actually, mojibake acts as some kind of s-box (composed of individual pixels in glyphs)
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< 1392830869 197042 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so glyphs from not-really-random character codes can be random to some extent.
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< 1392833941 470734 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is gen implemented?
< 1392834052 190572 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :xorshift might seem more random
< 1392834077 316985 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I don't even know what language this is
< 1392834411 550201 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ">>>" reminds me of Python, and the rest could work, given suitable definitions.
< 1392834426 835436 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be something else, of course; I'm sure it's not a unique prompt.
< 1392834502 792720 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for anything else than a simple LCG, sure, but it was just an ad-hoc brainfuck oneliner.
< 1392834516 654006 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish people would abandon bf already for some sort of rlefuck
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< 1392834724 459262 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :rlefuck?
< 1392834792 174984 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :+++++ becomes 5+ or such
< 1392834816 677976 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot more concise, and can be translated back to brainfuck easily
< 1392834817 819327 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not abandoning, that's adding sugar on top
< 1392834852 917873 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp__: Except that all fast brainfuck interpreters will use a representation closer to rlefuck inside
< 1392834867 144740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could make fungot's bf command accept that too -- since it's already part of the inner workings -- but what about all the digits used as comments in existing programs, huh? 
< 1392834867 367066 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: okay then... that's wrong.
< 1392834868 878092 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no; they're alrd free to do that
< 1392834899 222420 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, I'd expect it to be a separate command
< 1392834904 669102 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could share workings
< 1392834913 527968 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then all existing brainfuck programs would still use the old command
< 1392834959 689927 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but much of the point of bf is to be a *minimal*tm language 
< 1392834977 690159 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :turing machines are hard but fun
< 1392834986 439127 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you keep adding sugar, you might end up with C  :)
< 1392835005 267630 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp__: pfft. that is hardly the point. BF has way more operations than it needs to :P
< 1392835051 707580 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, mostly because it chose to work with bytes instead of bits
< 1392835088 335331 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you use bytes, you like to have both + and -, rather than use 255+ for -
< 1392835125 118749 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is that having both + and - is not really sugar
< 1392835193 471493 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should the point is to be practically minimal
< 1392835197 255689 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should say
< 1392835232 48941 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is to have a tiny compiler
< 1392835275 638268 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or tiny interpreter perhaps
< 1392835326 207185 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though plenty of other languages have smaller interpreters by now, i think bf was the first with that explicit goal)
< 1392835346 361537 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bf self-interpreter with be much harder with rle sugar
< 1392835350 578284 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be
< 1392835422 426893 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not "much". indeed, the optimizing self-interpreters would only be slightly larger (to parse the numbers) since they already do RLE inside
< 1392836001 340121 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :might slightly-too-overengineered-to-be-called-bytebeat song sounds a lot cleaner now
< 1392836063 956670 :blotter__!~blotter@72-161-23-153.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
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< 1392837795 714171 :^v!~Kevin@2601:4:4500:887:954c:c352:aa7b:4585 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im making a irc bot in brainfuck
< 1392837820 452698 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392842922 668377 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1392843161 282202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392843162 876360 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zosicoin writcoin shecoin crobcoin selycoin restepcoin viccoin arrand.nexcoin bensalcoin beltstcycoin nygroucoin vilcoin utncoin mointecoin intfuckcoin fernudencoin sablycoin etacoin sqicoin backcoin
< 1392843274 71948 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :intfuckcoin
< 1392843511 455699 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1392843514 785063 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 intfuckcoin
< 1392843544 366678 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392843545 848106 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hamcoin q-refcoin sponcoin youtcoin schecoin infullcoin shopcoin sartricoin cherivanecoin mingcoin draviacoin bf-sccoin misccoin anycoin orthwatheidotacoin thacoin ortecoin homrodoudcoin perlcoin plucoin
< 1392843567 864492 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks coin
< 1392843568 316972 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, coin. Thoin.
< 1392843604 143568 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just woke up and I can't remember going to sleep
< 1392843635 646367 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thoin-son-of-coin
< 1392843662 896380 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --finnish 20
< 1392843664 564435 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plamcoin capeimacoin soffe7ecoin unocoin hacecoin revanantcoin enitucoin arvoikeampaavascificoin quntercoin bfmcoin kifcoin rejäcoin highcoin mikshakslicecoin farmempässeicoin hulrcoin venänsyinteekcoin harmecoin hydracoin capurjaiotacoin
< 1392843680 197235 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --german-medical 20
< 1392843681 674192 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aurientatancecoin ischecoin miaticoin jugcoin xeryticapuirequecoin vellcoin smalexord!cpucoin dageatniocoin hermatisortecoin tesplcapulcoin gaballycoin hancoin clemcoin intcadorningehrcoin cercoin reapongcoin advisioncoin rocerentingchimbcoin hichcoin tachilicoin
< 1392843809 595187 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :smalexord!cpucoin?
< 1392843850 157547 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392843874 732927 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it always includes the esolangs and english dictionaries, so that'll be where odd stuff like that comes from
< 1392843932 265290 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1392844361 400432 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392844551 11767 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE
< 1392844552 113543 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIXED
< 1392844554 961351 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW STOP COMPLAINING
< 1392844657 286103 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's fixed
< 1392844677 939893 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to know so i can make up the complaining i didn't know to do
< 1392844853 137710 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo's repo browser.
< 1392844872 218838 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that. well, oerjan, ur up
< 1392845566 773970 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
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< 1392845915 868879 :nooodl!~nooodl@18.157-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392849380 332987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392849382 399575 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itfincoin emblefixcoin sadecoin vellcoin semacoin vantiuellecoin foggercoin xlhcoin skincoin parnatincoin laudcoin attecoin brachefficcoin verghcoin regititocoin thratcoin msgiannautocoin hexamicoin bhuttcoin pointcoin
< 1392849809 814288 :nooodl!~nooodl@18.157-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexamicoin
< 1392849828 840042 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO CLOSE
< 1392849921 477548 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392850043 75865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392850388 575211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : OotS will only return on March 31! <-- leave your readers in hell, go on vacation.
< 1392850589 670859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : there are basically three qualities of PRNG, "good enough to fool a human", "good enough for use in statistics", "crypto-hard to figure out what's coming next without knowledge of the internal state" <-- i'm not sure the second is completely a subset of the third.  also why are all the interesting people from the logs away.
< 1392850703 278594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (It's just x(n) = (17*x(n-1) + 7) % 256, and I just took two small-ish primes that aren't necessarily very optimal.) <-- a max possible cycle length of 256 isn't very optimal, no
< 1392850787 454306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length $ iterate (\x -> 17*x + 7 :: Word8) 0
< 1392850792 738771 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1
< 1392850792 923749 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined
< 1392850798 862497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1392850828 346759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length . takeWhile (/= 0) . tail $ iterate (\x -> 17*x + 7 :: Word8) 0
< 1392850831 279582 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 255
< 1392850845 390596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's maximal.
< 1392850875 657537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length . takeWhile (/= 0) . tail $ iterate (\x -> 17*x + 3 :: Word8) 0
< 1392850876 869575 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 255
< 1392850880 675749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length . takeWhile (/= 0) . tail $ iterate (\x -> 17*x + 5 :: Word8) 0
< 1392850881 709074 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 255
< 1392850900 676423 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@2605:4d00:0:2::7a QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1392850939 705718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (\y -> 255 /= length . takeWhile (/= 0) . tail $ iterate (\x -> 17*x + y :: Word8) 0) [1,3..]
< 1392850940 875571 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[GHC.Word.Word8] -> GHC.Types.Bool'
< 1392850941 60681 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :             with actual type `GHC.Types.Bool'
< 1392850953 990159 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392851003 881399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (\y -> (255 /=) $ length . takeWhile (/= 0) . tail $ iterate (\x -> 17*x + y :: Word8) 0) [1,3..]
< 1392851004 998664 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : []
< 1392851008 833781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1392851020 66811 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392851028 313849 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMH!
< 1392851045 417183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (\(y,z) -> (255 /=) $ length . takeWhile (/= 0) . tail $ iterate (\x -> z*x + y :: Word8) 0) $ join zip [1,3..]
< 1392851046 563898 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(3,3),(7,7),(11,11),(15,15),(19,19),(23,23),(27,27),(31,31),(35,35),(39,39)...
< 1392851076 917532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :  OotS will only return on March 31! <-- leave your readers in hell, go on vacation.
< 1392851094 955359 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud
< 1392851095 556866 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly asked 9h 54m 48s ago: why is this?!
< 1392851110 489954 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION loudly massages boily
< 1392851112 519066 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: FirelloFly. what is why is what?
< 1392851119 97610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (\(y,z) -> (y /= z &&) . (255 /=) $ length . takeWhile (/= 0) . tail $ iterate (\x -> z*x + y :: Word8) 0) $ join zip [1,3..]
< 1392851120 417107 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : []
< 1392851130 478377 :qlkzy!~qlkzy@li559-28.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392851135 49968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm everything maximal which could be
< 1392851140 418566 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is why is oots delayed until late march
< 1392851155 809261 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I think oerjan pointed that out.
< 1392851165 435326 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, hellørjan.)
< 1392851171 353185 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I noticed that it was added (? or maybe I missed it the first time I read it) to the end of the latest comic
< 1392851178 601804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually have evidence it's a vacation
< 1392851179 721267 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thaily anyway
< 1392851205 696816 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also also, has anything happened lately to the Wisdoms?
< 1392851225 457572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the repository is back up! you can check yourself!
< 1392851246 849249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oh frabjous day!)
< 1392851247 903438 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably a nice oneliner for checking that, but I don't know what
< 1392851276 827551 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l | grep wisdom
< 1392851277 531896 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information.
< 1392851278 715884 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION galumphes towards the repo
< 1392851280 498425 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l | grep wisdom
< 1392851281 229915 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x  4 5000 5000   16384 Feb 19 03:39 wisdom \ -rw-r--r--  1 5000 5000  476823 Feb 17 03:23 wisdom.pdf
< 1392851288 262552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'd assume no that the repository's back up, he might want to check a little further back as well.
< 1392851297 963017 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom | grep 'Feb 19'
< 1392851299 109250 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000      162 Feb 19 03:39 kanada
< 1392851306 2001 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? kanada
< 1392851306 846439 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your bankers' vain plazas never nutured no one / And your concrete expanses lay fallow in the sun / And your cities all collapsing while your corrupt mayors shrug
< 1392851320 891953 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fungot.
< 1392851321 226907 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how's life? i can edit function definitions, but not dns registered
< 1392851341 874698 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: life is good, but I can't edit function definitions. my cow orkers don't like it when I do that.
< 1392851342 392821 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: does scheme/ do any fnord interps exist?" " have a conversation with someone else about a terrible pun, and it's continuous, will move one derivative and has to be
< 1392851367 104693 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392851377 131912 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: derivatives of puns are usually pretty boring
< 1392851377 316903 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: only what i can tell the difference
< 1392851384 709715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ais523.*reference
< 1392851385 408151 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1392851387 621693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1392851401 589060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ais523.*obscure
< 1392851402 360166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1392851408 669070 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote
< 1392851409 300149 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :789)  but i mean i don't like jogging so i wouldn't like jogging while jerking off either
< 1392851415 742721 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay the quotedb is alive
< 1392851421 530448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a hunch i tried that before and had to look through the logs.
< 1392851429 850311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log ais523.*reference
< 1392851430 657574 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/hackenv/bin/log: 2: cd: can't cd to /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ grep: ????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory
< 1392851433 67080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1392851505 25559 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392851547 832295 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :♪ ding ♪ first Wisdom entry under the letter “K”! ♪ dong ♪
< 1392851557 957474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote dong
< 1392851558 661426 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1392851561 108512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O
< 1392851576 18496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: the quotedb hasn't been dead.  well not for very long, anyway.
< 1392851624 215226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn K K K Ken
< 1392851626 366413 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that.
< 1392851642 632789 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't be too sure, you never know with bitrot
< 1392851649 509148 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION glares at oerjan
< 1392851669 86230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles maniackally, then laughs innocently.
< 1392851748 953898 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION defiantly drinks a diet pepsi in oerjan's general direction. “That'll teach ya!”
< 1392851765 121784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already had a pepsi max earlier today
< 1392851775 375563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had 3 diet mountain dews
< 1392851778 664937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :diet mountains dew?
< 1392851993 306509 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck diets
< 1392851994 44466 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :People go on diets to loose weight instead of gaining. It gives them a consistant diet.
< 1392851999 823535 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1392852000 17653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm pepsi max means different things in europe and north america
< 1392852014 454744 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :our pepsi max is like coke zero.
< 1392852027 601350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm well so is ours?
< 1392852055 641664 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn diets People go on diets to loose weight instead of gaining. It gives them a consistant diet.
< 1392852057 700409 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that.
< 1392852067 121735 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope I didn't screw that up
< 1392852071 828546 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? diets
< 1392852072 778121 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :diets People go on diets to loose weight instead of gaining. It gives them a consistant diet.
< 1392852082 910256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unlike the international beverage, the US drink's ingredient label mentions ginseng, and that drink contains nearly twice as much caffeine as Diet Pepsi (46 mg vs. 24 mg per 8 fl oz)."
< 1392852083 468399 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I did
< 1392852085 926827 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "diets people" works, but the capitalization is wrong
< 1392852103 998451 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/^diets //' wisdom/diets
< 1392852104 652456 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read wisdom/diets: No such file or directory
< 1392852118 901538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/^diets //' wisdom/diet
< 1392852120 918723 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1392852125 33884 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1392852204 299110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :consistant isn't the right spelling, is it?
< 1392852219 33715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or loose, for that matter
< 1392852254 247764 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"consistent" and "lose"
< 1392852298 601768 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle.
< 1392852308 169068 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :♪ diet ♪
< 1392852337 894983 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to watch witch craft works' latest episode...
< 1392852724 612051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392852726 608471 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :physcriplcoin hadzacoin waitcoin uricoin rincoin threntcoin inttacoin zoacoin fouquecoin mutarcoin graelcoin mincoin secubcoin veancoin wercoin abcderlcoin frierdcoin daichcoin plunacoin orocoin
< 1392852799 748178 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392852976 919757 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392853078 350423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1
< 1392853079 181816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1)  I used computational linguistics to kill her.
< 1392853091 669757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 2
< 1392853092 345838 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2)  EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork"
< 1392853098 643821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that quote 1 has been tampered
< 1392853117 229728 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392853127 670820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`undo 4468
< 1392853132 649184 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :patching file paste.1014 \ patching file paste.11282 \ patching file paste.11437 \ patching file paste.12235 \ patching file paste.12391 \ patching file paste.12738 \ patching file paste.13150 \ patching file paste.13287 \ patching file paste.1368 \ patching file paste.14273 \ patching file paste.14276 \ patching file paste.14992 \ patching file pa
< 1392853144 715084 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/rev/b46cdb85e307
< 1392853174 426330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just started going through the repository browser just in case..
< 1392853219 82279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Gregor Why does the (partly vandalism) http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/rev/b46cdb85e307 not have a listed author/command?
< 1392853219 288654 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1392853301 330322 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's my vandalism.
< 1392853310 86251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd have assumed it was just Gregor cleaning up if not for the quotes changes
< 1392853342 257107 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :The quotes changes were a request to remove a name.
< 1392853357 363115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1392853429 918397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah i assume the paste files were those which mentioned em, too
< 1392853489 559746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just remove the relevant quotes
< 1392853545 17272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1392853545 867890 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1392853572 273048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: a commit message might have helped hth :)
< 1392853615 103276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Norman
< 1392853615 873287 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1)  I used computational linguistics to kill her. \ 39)  It looks like my hairs are too fat.  Can you help me split them? \ 65)  Invalid! Kill! Kill!   I get that feeling too.
< 1392853617 495531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392853619 519188 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sivecoin selfcoin worbcoin theccoin bruicoin heacoin xsilaxcoin tlwncoin excelandacoin hancoin tetcoin surfecoin catcoin allfcoin pointre-calcoin rflcoin revercoin waicoin hebeofthisiacoin diccoin
< 1392853635 663485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote Norman | wc
< 1392853636 549945 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :      3      36     206
< 1392853641 403119 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wow, my live esolangs creation is tomorrow
< 1392853653 688716 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That changes quote numbers.
< 1392853660 798739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does deleting any quote
< 1392853666 129574 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't delete any quotes.
< 1392853687 469177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but bin/delquote exists
< 1392853687 883493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/Norman/REDACTED/g' quotes
< 1392853690 231876 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1392853698 919005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this is more honest, at least
< 1392853719 591105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hm
< 1392853725 527567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1392853727 510253 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1392853733 983064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/Norman/[REDACTED]/g' quotes
< 1392853735 968781 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1392853749 851012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote REDACTED
< 1392853750 648335 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) <[REDACTED]> I used computational linguistics to kill her. \ 39) <[REDACTED]> It looks like my hairs are too fat.  Can you help me split them? \ 65)  Invalid! Kill! Kill!  <[REDACTED]> I get that feeling too.
< 1392853777 754084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :drawing attention to it is stupid
< 1392853781 548487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of those quotes are good anyway
< 1392853786 409628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 1
< 1392853788 318790 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*poof* <[REDACTED]> I used computational linguistics to kill her.
< 1392853790 299422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 38
< 1392853792 408422 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*poof* <[REDACTED]> It looks like my hairs are too fat.  Can you help me split them?
< 1392853793 886584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 64
< 1392853795 920717 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*poof*  Where's the link to the log?   THERE'S NO LOG. YOUR REQUEST IS SUSPICIOUS AND HAS BEEN LOGGED.
< 1392853800 58503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1392853801 944070 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1392853802 928237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 64
< 1392853804 554317 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*poof*  Where's the link to the log?   THERE'S NO LOG. YOUR REQUEST IS SUSPICIOUS AND HAS BEEN LOGGED.
< 1392853810 568579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1392853811 870849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 63
< 1392853812 411549 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1392853814 376394 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*poof*  Invalid! Kill! Kill!  <[REDACTED]> I get that feeling too.
< 1392853971 218216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392853972 732978 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :larioncoin etacoin musichcoin runkcoin iiricoin boatcoin dovicoin procoin self-modicoin dumbelloncoin parcoin unrecoin lizationcoin cowconfimcoin unclujcoin addliffurenacoin bynedoodcoin lingpetercoin nandomialcoin bencoin
< 1392853979 181082 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woooah... what the delquote are you doing there?
< 1392853996 843574 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll find the perfect coin to make today not suck :/
< 1392854009 958389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: apparently aftran doesn't want to be quoted any longer.
< 1392854017 866660 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm.
< 1392854035 994613 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. time to excise the quotes...
< 1392854049 434433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't _have_ to *whistles innocently*
< 1392854057 229148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392854059 248464 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bestificiendomycoin ferucoin 17s6coin archcoin intercalcoin tosighcoin jcwentcoin acecoin genomereacoin parcacoin guelcoin ersmalcoin condrcoin libercoin p'scoin thyiionccoin fronymcoin attercoin kippearion23coin alippecoin
< 1392854068 270364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :intercalcoin!!
< 1392854084 234459 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oooooh. a very machiandinavian technique.
< 1392854152 153877 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: thanks a lot for the re-browsable repo!
< 1392854226 178478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when was it the repository went offline, anyway.
< 1392854252 666221 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the bot moved
< 1392854284 559200 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmm. no, that's when it became out of date for a while. I don't know when it went offline
< 1392854298 301904 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, i mean, "what's the earliest repository command i haven't checked yet."
< 1392854299 389812 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom
< 1392854300 88151 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/
< 1392854305 179324 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey guys, wish me luck
< 1392854323 17364 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: «merde!»
< 1392854326 505835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right it went out of date
< 1392854340 233159 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, my french is not that great but I do not think that is luck
< 1392854379 47582 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My live esolang creation is in 19 and a half hours
< 1392854404 131041 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's a traditional French luck wish. it comes from theatre actors.
< 1392854449 39093 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is just plausible enough for me to quaver in my disbelief
< 1392854465 32141 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from fr.wikipedia.org → « Je vous dis merde » -- bonne chance, surtout avant une performance. Expression typiquement employée en France pour encourager la personne qui entre en scène, ou avant un examen.
< 1392854477 705843 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck quaver
< 1392854478 543767 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaver definition: tremble.
< 1392854516 987876 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, hmm, you seem to be not lying.
< 1392854518 383418 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you
< 1392854553 496741 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although in English at least, I would be somewhat surprised if someone said "shit!" when trying to wish someone luck
< 1392854574 257486 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the literal translation?
< 1392854592 801053 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fr:merde → en:shit.
< 1392854596 955278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant of the phrase
< 1392854604 931324 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeeeeh...
< 1392854629 628480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's just like "I tell you"?
< 1392854638 259371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this doesn't make any sense
< 1392854650 775726 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`curl
< 1392854651 548271 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :curl: try 'curl --help' or 'curl --manual' for more information
< 1392854656 505649 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392854657 887052 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's an apocryphal reference to a French general. it doesn't make sense.
< 1392854662 803709 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgello.
< 1392854669 678926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who?
< 1392854696 749756 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Cambronne
< 1392854750 378245 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` curl -I google.com
< 1392854751 229429 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to connect to socket 2. \  \ curl: (52) Empty reply from server
< 1392854903 939451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo doesn't have direct network access
< 1392854913 222783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you need to use `fetch
< 1392854929 158157 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`curl 96.127.250.15
< 1392854929 949528 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to connect to socket 2. \  \ curl: (52) Empty reply from server
< 1392854932 571295 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh.
< 1392854944 54352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: break a leg
< 1392855003 913747 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sounds like an ok name for an esolang)
< 1392855022 314344 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: “break a leg”?
< 1392855026 657345 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1392855097 407678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot remember the spot where the repository stopped updating.  i hope it wasn't more than 7 weeks ago.
< 1392855176 775854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if `pastelogs was working, i could have grepped for when i started complaining.
< 1392855177 797559 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened 7 weeks ago? a zombie outbreak?
< 1392855185 151478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: possibly nothing
< 1392855200 20265 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zombie outbreak. I stand by my theory.
< 1392855271 770664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see people doing `paste commands, but i cannot tell whether they actually got to see the results
< 1392855384 66860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the repository "helpfully" starts saying N weeks ago instead of N days ago once you go past 13 days.
< 1392855397 559276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm
< 1392855424 439132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can click on a change to get a more accurate date.
< 1392855497 942593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that allowed me to find a spot in the logs where `pastelogs was definitely working.
< 1392855502 323065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Dec 30)
< 1392855575 726567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok CHECK COMPLETE
< 1392855619 551859 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 30 December already 7 weeks ago?
< 1392855624 495067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1392855695 135924 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels temporally sea-sick.
< 1392855707 799656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's hope it's temporary
< 1392855842 104223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : SO CLOSE <-- which reminds me that i learned from the newspaper today that the latest justin bieber replacement around these parts is a finn named elliot.
< 1392855923 88170 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a one-T elliott?
< 1392855942 74418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i think so, it was definitely not the same spelling.
< 1392855954 191870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it was the surname.  and possibly a stage name.
< 1392856044 347031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isac elliot lundén, says norwegian wikipedia.
< 1392856089 399194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok there's an english too, why doesn't google show it...
< 1392856252 83676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh rustpkg was deprecated and removed last month
< 1392856299 232730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how _does_ google manage not to show an english wikipedia hit in its first 7 pages of hits...
< 1392856320 369193 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Google Bubble Struggle strikes again with No Non-Norwegian Regurgitated Recumbent Results.
< 1392856325 460009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the norwegian wikipedia hit is first, so presumably that has something to do with it.)
< 1392856344 165781 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: on my phone, I can't get un-French wikipédia results.
< 1392856376 439755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, third hit.  but still.
< 1392856395 780613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: in general?
< 1392856411 114850 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yup. it's infuriating.
< 1392856442 836875 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392856484 255830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's the OQLF's doing...
< 1392856524 644433 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be surprised. those OQLF miscreants...
< 1392856574 719505 :nooodl!~nooodl@18.157-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg
< 1392856632 27586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :searching for "geiranger" gave no en.wikipedia hit on the first page, although "fridtjof nansen" gave no and en as the two top hits, so it's not _always_ the case that norwegian stuff gets no english hits.
< 1392856649 607125 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392856665 456813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is on my laptop.)
< 1392856758 885941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: does this hold even if the french wikipedia has no article on the subject?
< 1392856777 18002 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: let me check...
< 1392856785 541477 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hm. I need something unfrench...)
< 1392856801 909780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"brunost"
< 1392856815 615768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: https://github.com/michaelwoerister/rs-persistent-datastructures "In conclusion, even with (atomic, multithreaded) refcounting a HAMT can perform pretty well :)"
< 1392856819 853699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had wondered about that!
< 1392856841 372877 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it has a French version, but we'll see...
< 1392856862 277474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha
< 1392856862 462338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it's not clear if there are any multithreaded performance numbers
< 1392856872 210345 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah bin torieux. first hit is fr:, and second is en:.
< 1392856887 353337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay!
< 1392856920 432296 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks awfully like «sucre à la crème».
< 1392856956 645821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess which language google translate thinks "ah bin torieux" is for me
< 1392856984 506950 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :turk?
< 1392857030 932664 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qc:"ah bin torieux" → en:"well, I'll be damned"
< 1392857055 800426 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392857058 713160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: norwegian
< 1392857072 238079 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: here it says it's French, and won't translate it.
< 1392857097 241646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's always in your own language
< 1392857110 898059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like gin and tonic in the hitchhiker's guide
< 1392857131 253438 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. speaking of gin tonic, I'll go make one...
< 1392857138 165503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i strongly doubt sucre à la crème tastes the same
< 1392857257 877369 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they both have dairy products in them!
< 1392857366 769914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's true.
< 1392857502 882152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In January 2013, the Bratli Tunnel at Tysfjord was damaged when a lorry load of caramelised brunost caught fire. The high concentration of fat and sugar in the cheese caused it to burn fiercely at sufficiently high temperatures that the fire was still burning five days later."
< 1392857542 613019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i didn't pick that one up before
< 1392858153 654641 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1126
< 1392858154 392071 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1126)  kmc, I was trying to go to a sci-fi and fantasy society social, and I went to the wrong bar   Wound up at my university's fetish society   Didn't realise for an hour and a half
< 1392858159 310863 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I worry about myself
< 1392858222 151718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you worry
< 1392858231 2737 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, I do have to say, that's my favourite quote about you.
< 1392858244 705986 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That my life is a series of really boring misadventures
< 1392858299 631782 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also that I am a terrible judge of how people are socialing?
< 1392858324 566773 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's just that I'm addicted to surreal-slice-of-life tidbits. like, Hidamari Sketch happening IRL.
< 1392858347 434675 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I meant that in response to kmc 
< 1392858359 285803 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. oh. hm. eh.
< 1392858405 172265 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'm looking forward to the Guardians of the Galaxy movie
< 1392858661 764355 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote February
< 1392858662 575633 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :392)  Cut to February   War were declared   A galaxy in turmoil   Anyway, Febuary '10
< 1392858722 527045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I would not expect sf/f and fetish people to have particularly different modes of socializing when they're not actually doing their respective hobbies
< 1392858734 682853 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, that is part of the confusion
< 1392858735 177792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i would expect it to be a lot of the same people in both groups
< 1392858746 402441 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, one of them was wearing a Star Wars t-shirt
< 1392858750 290929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"BDSM is just a kind of LARP"
< 1392858772 648556 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? BDSM
< 1392858773 433831 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BDSM? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1392858781 839535 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn BDSM is just a kind of LARP
< 1392858783 990232 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that.
< 1392858787 571359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c
< 1392858802 904838 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please do not say that I invented it
< 1392858804 645176 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :BDSM definitely isnt a kind of LARP
< 1392858831 898824 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't add that one until someone finds something better. nah!
< 1392858839 598503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: can I say that you invented Star Wars?
< 1392858844 875659 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, no
< 1392858845 60734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Star Wars
< 1392858845 791132 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Star Wars? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1392858856 885252 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the inception of another tanebvention?
< 1392858864 605607 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn BDSM definitely isn't a kind of LARP and Taneb definitely did not invent it.
< 1392858866 622926 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that.
< 1392858876 709692 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, I think I gave commit access to a bunch of y'all to the Wisdoms...)
< 1392858882 495188 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392858887 569942 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how/where?
< 1392858899 364738 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the github repo.
< 1392858906 953165 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I definitely have access
< 1392858912 874936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hub of the gits.
< 1392858914 445980 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1392858942 950243 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you too.
< 1392858982 626670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm @kmcallister
< 1392858988 945533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the githubs
< 1392859011 191154 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :already there.
< 1392859015 306438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :k
< 1392859018 463621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't get an email or anything
< 1392859035 815015 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird.
< 1392859043 229959 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I can't remember who sheganinans is.
< 1392859069 279891 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here from latvia and/or lithuania?
< 1392859416 730129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392859418 455600 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mandercoin rocecoin sixturecoin uñarcoin beacrippcoin whencoin ketcoin delatecoin bodningynercoin proacoin prefixedlycoin mazecoin 2docoin hearvacoin vershakecoin discoin clracoin marcoin ludecoin chromerufacoin
< 1392859502 158292 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :圓coin.
< 1392859563 432306 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL
< 1392859564 470954 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 200100Z 29005KT 15SM FEW045 OVC070 M01/M03 A2972 RMK SC2AC6 SLP066
< 1392859573 718442 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392859574 395831 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. missed the Negative Cow Club.
< 1392860485 470307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : anyone here from latvia and/or lithuania? <-- hm i think i saw someone...
< 1392860589 318087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and e had a real name ending in -is, and was surprised i didn't guess greek, like most do.
< 1392860647 409469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: all this could be confirmed easily if `pastelogs were working hth
< 1392860659 805878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what do you mean i never stop nagging)
< 1392860742 755818 :ping!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392860762 365119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm jix does but it wasn't him
< 1392860769 372949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and i think he's german anyhow)
< 1392860771 189354 :ping!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :Guest14054
< 1392860879 953034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1392860920 69531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i think it must be CADD_
< 1392860954 785737 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1392860962 843232 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD_: are you yourself?
< 1392860968 285653 :Guest14054!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v
< 1392860999 740838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 days idle, that's something.
< 1392861009 3891 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I now have a Greek coworker, and both his first and last names end in -os.
< 1392861025 358590 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell CADD_ are you yourself, or are you someone else who is you?
< 1392861025 543470 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1392861043 612920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's also an option, yes.  i'm not sure about lithuanian though, i think they're more -as.
< 1392861067 652524 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always get confused between the two.
< 1392861078 868868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, those are both indoeuropean languages that have preserved original final -s in many places.
< 1392861088 893090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like latin too
< 1392861127 629627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also latvian i think, but they tend to live off the intermediate vowel.
< 1392861148 649495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*leave
< 1392861201 403988 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ea/i/
< 1392861203 193400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the icelandic -r is also from that.
< 1392861251 107305 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello. can you update the fizziegraphs please? I'm curious to see how my new schedulesoteric looks.
< 1392861261 33598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was supposedly -z in protogermanic.)
< 1392861484 149719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's the diphtongs that clue me in to CADD_ not being greek, in particularly the "au" which isn't in greek at all.
< 1392861491 400875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afair
< 1392861510 906514 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1392861654 251474 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. /whois matches CADD_ over to sheganinans, so it is him.
< 1392861822 303122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think agatha's (lack of) plan at girl genius may be going downhill.
< 1392862283 404642 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't relate (yet).
< 1392862304 537951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm a little antsy about it.
< 1392862341 936860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm referring to the current intermission story btw)
< 1392862349 300908 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1392862376 554219 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to find a bit of paper to make a todo list to write down a todo list to catch up on GG.
< 1392862585 548672 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, Japan lives in a different world. http://youtu.be/Xdzkwo9XA7s#t=12
< 1392862741 71161 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392862798 830440 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I dunno, some British ads are pretty weird, I just think these are devoid of cultural context
< 1392862890 393052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also norwegian ones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df_EdfcFfFg
< 1392862893 989928 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have boring ads. they are internationally known for their uncreativity and deoriginalness.
< 1392863017 835993 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's written Fjordland and it's pronounced “fyoolan”.
< 1392863026 981469 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry, no IPA IME on that machine.)
< 1392863030 295420 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392863070 4969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the d is silent and the rdl is a retroflex l
< 1392863090 871683 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gags on retroflexes
< 1392863101 477287 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stay away from norway and sweden then.
< 1392863144 488781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess technically both d's are silent, they often are at the end of syllables
< 1392863166 226145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while r+dental = retroflex is a regular phonological process
< 1392863228 594456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sometimes even across words)
< 1392863246 102240 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily!
< 1392863250 382056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess a french speaker won't find that particularly weird.
< 1392863250 912902 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're still here!
< 1392863252 666660 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that verb again, quaver?
< 1392863277 356414 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: quinthellopia! not for long. my mattress is trying to seduce me.
< 1392863279 937957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what?
< 1392863290 348551 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION quavers in fear at Norwegian.
< 1392863296 973768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOO
< 1392863314 107682 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reflexively mapoles at oerjan in self-defense
< 1392863343 397833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION calmly swats boily -----###
< 1392863360 929100 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is put in a cozy coma
< 1392863371 19918 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night all! be back tomorrow!
< 1392863381 755619 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: NOCTURNAL UNRETROFLEXIVE CHICKEN
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< 1392863443 829931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesson 386: don't remind people they should be sleeping when you want them to stay.
< 1392863506 694412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm in afterthought that was a rather lousy attempt at thinking of a random number.
< 1392863538 207156 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no worries, he'll be back tomorrow while i'm at work
< 1392863567 522092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good
< 1392864079 277781 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does python 2 have anything similar to Haskell's Data.List.nub?
< 1392864284 784471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not afaik
< 1392864351 532749 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb: Do you need to preserve the order? You could convert to a set.
< 1392864366 118143 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, that is one option
< 1392864376 570209 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a better option in this case is realised I don't actually need to
< 1392864401 475245 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps an OrderedDict with dummy values.
< 1392865229 104917 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392865230 735854 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soncoin thogiccoin niccoin mieldinginheacoin baggramsendercoin roculicoin renamocoin anycoin dnvcoin autcoin entcoin volungcoin beltinycoin kipcoin unvuchcoin hexcoin pascoin amothecoin nouvenbanjcoin dimefticoin
< 1392865237 573501 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, /me forgot what nub does
< 1392865258 303136 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need to get kmc sucked back into haskell
< 1392865461 313089 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392865463 95651 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruicoin difyinguecoin catcoin lekitcoin blouxcoin bioulcoin bildesiscoin homcoin bam1281coin sylcoin codecoin isockcoin alighcoin sientacoin zentercoin burgcoin hsemcoin gesankcoin tinycoin poundedcoin
< 1392865564 856276 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :another fun thing about the programs compiled to use no registers (besides the fact that they don't use registers) is that almost all data is stored as pointers to code
< 1392865601 873506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and many of the pointers to code live inside code
< 1392865889 704712 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the face-first sledding event called
< 1392866083 978795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :skeleton?
< 1392866262 616323 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's not face-first
< 1392866272 279286 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe
< 1392866376 265999 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392866494 376526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says 'tis
< 1392866514 306272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :luge is butt-first
< 1392866783 761038 :ping!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392866807 313438 :ping!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :Guest86302
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< 1392868204 532540 :Guest86302!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v
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< 1392869332 535685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392869334 401903 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :graysixcoin avitantcoin codecoin velatefuchcoin whenemcoin eniguocoin illcoin lafferecoin 988582.1coin anoisccoin allycoin chlunkcoin torthejmcoin rsthamcoin ethcoin lioncoin mourgcoin dotcoin theocoin reactcoin
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< 1392870010 863263 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem!
< 1392870462 278183 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help. my vim muscle memory is useless now that I got a radial head fracture and can only use my left hand
< 1392870480 340167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened?
< 1392870483 33455 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hjkl took a particularly bad hit
< 1392870513 431997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek
< 1392870523 39035 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fell on an outstretched hand when going downhill forwards fast turned into going downhills sideways fast
< 1392870533 180151 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on bike, while commuting
< 1392870558 545788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn
< 1392870560 232426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry to hear it
< 1392870572 943777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait radial head fractures have nothing to do with the head
< 1392870583 124127 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :initial results show no displacement
< 1392870589 215491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*slightly smaller eek
< 1392870593 315161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was similarly confused
< 1392870603 419070 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in 2-3 weeks my vim-fu will be more powerful than ever before
< 1392870615 60902 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self: stop assuming brain damage
< 1392870620 863762 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... it is confusing... broken elbow though
< 1392870642 680398 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or always assume brain damage, just to be safe?)
< 1392870664 451463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :always aim for the head
< 1392870732 199827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION subtle checks Gracenotes for zombie symptoms
< 1392870734 627863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*y
< 1392870828 671526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i shouldn't be speaking i have a zombie tooth from another bike accident.
< 1392870882 770181 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: that's just enough time to learn Left-Handed Dvorak
< 1392870920 394403 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah. then it will be impossible to switch to two-handed Dvorak
< 1392870939 455646 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard&hidetrans=1&hidelinks=1
< 1392870950 432313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly what you do is learn left-handed _and_ right-handed dvorak.
< 1392870997 312881 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lkjhgfdsa i wonder why this is set up
< 1392871009 226853 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe
< 1392871098 942136 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... Ekrpat Ocmlncuc.e T.fxrape :|
< 1392871233 861080 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even worse, I am trying to write Go
< 1392871285 189988 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is unforgiving. "Sorry, your program is literally syntactically incomprehensible because you forgot a trailing comma on your array"
< 1392871315 335075 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'll wait here while you fix it."
< 1392871971 46209 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392872200 149575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392872201 762736 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :castyningcoin locodevillcoin lotheccoin tegroscoin ctoncoin facecoin minimacoin metricoin wlicoin xenthingcoin squiessorcoin prefecoin ovenicoin colacoin odynredgrcoin hssadcoin ijtcoin revavecoin wherecoin thratcoin
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< 1392872809 584135 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :earlier today I said "there can even be multiple NP algorithms for the same problem which use the cert in different ways"
< 1392872844 651933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in a discussion about how having a P algorithm doesn't mean you can find a cert for each NP algorithm)
< 1392872852 107748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I wonder if there are any particularly interesting examples of this
< 1392872859 839916 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1392873542 289559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primality_certificate describes two different kinds
< 1392873589 350828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um a P algorithm for _what_?
< 1392873599 721326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the same problem
< 1392873600 53740 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Peas
< 1392873630 229494 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been awake way too long
< 1392873640 331494 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, only 17 hours
< 1392873648 107642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a P algorithm for an NP-complete problem certainly gives you the ability to compute certificates for any NP problem.
< 1392873660 372910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say NP-complete.
< 1392873667 412306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good
< 1392873687 867081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1392873726 111867 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example compositeness is in NP, with certificate being the factorization, and compositeness is in P (AKS test), but AKS doesn't give you a factoring algorithm (which is believed to not be in P)
< 1392873727 542127 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there sets of equivalent problems known to be in NP but not NP-compltee
< 1392873730 876207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: wait aren't you sleeping already
< 1392873746 666211 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really really should be
< 1392873749 260697 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what do you mean by "sets of equivalent problems"
< 1392873772 218374 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno. you can "reduce" np-complete problems to other np-complete problems, right
< 1392873795 946205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1392873803 184286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can reduce any problem in np to any np-complete problem)
< 1392873806 642379 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1392873810 129569 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1392873817 340364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think the set equivalent to graph isomorphism gets some study for example, that's believed to be between P and NP-complete (but not proved)
< 1392873883 632541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even proved conditionally on P != NP, although there are some problems that are
< 1392873888 85245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_isomorphism_problem#GI-complete_and_GI-hard_problems
< 1392873917 201610 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone made an IRC bot in brainfuck yet?
< 1392873933 156511 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C2BF is cheating btw
< 1392873951 42774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :google says yes
< 1392874026 395625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw iirc there's an NP-complete problem related to factorization: whether a number has a factor in an interval
< 1392874065 831051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that's mostly due to the possibility of large number of factors, even if you know a complete prime factorization it's still hard
< 1392874160 348302 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392874180 355539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's like similar to subset sum)
< 1392874203 379760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: interesting
< 1392874247 176551 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1392874252 631699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard even if you know a factorization because you have to check it? and search it?
< 1392874660 552073 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can you explain how it's like subset sum
< 1392874689 702902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard because a hard part of the problem is, like with subset sum, to choose how many of which prime factors to include to get the product in the right range.
< 1392874710 168560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so after you've got a prime factorization, it's basically "subset product"
< 1392874747 343967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm well not quite
< 1392874753 388890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's not whether the number has a *prime* factor in range
< 1392874756 226551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes a lot more sense
< 1392874769 266431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :subset sum requires exact equality.
< 1392874772 495761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: right
< 1392874810 848893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :subset sum and subset product should be equivalent right? by the power of logarithms or something
< 1392874835 830247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well how small is the range allowed to be for this factor-in-range problem?
< 1392874836 907771 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392874844 967332 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallo, zzo38
< 1392874853 121572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh but if it's too small then you can just do trial division.
< 1392874857 420401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning zzo38
< 1392874859 399068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are yoU?
< 1392874872 52547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i guess it's more like knapsack.
< 1392874875 844788 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am OK but is not morning time in here
< 1392874896 234490 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is rapidly approaching morning time here and I have forgotten to sleep
< 1392874924 235946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(than subset sum)
< 1392874945 510919 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Live esolang creation in 14 hours
< 1392874979 261146 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas, it will not be streamed
< 1392874988 248304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the problem with logarithms is you cannot get them to be integers in a way that works for this problem
< 1392874990 43086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know what kind you will create?
< 1392874994 161418 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah
< 1392874996 567233 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, no
< 1392875000 621218 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a sort of vague idea
< 1392875025 639973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if every logarithm is an integer to some base, then the original number is a prime power)
< 1392875043 630802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*logarithm of a prime factor
< 1392875122 322163 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care if it is streamed, but will it be written down? I would like to see what is written down for such thing, if you have any.
< 1392875218 449328 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will be recorded
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< 1392876754 329743 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1392877319 616483 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I want to pay for a game, but I don't trust them to handle my financial data securely, but they offer a way to pay via check, having my bank mail a check should be safe, right?
< 1392877369 884863 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if they erase the number with lasers and make you pay a million dolalrs
< 1392877382 2910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :checks in the US banking system are like the least secure thing in the world
< 1392877392 127880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every check contains all the information you need to withdraw any amount of money from that account.
< 1392877414 452854 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um kmc, i think you'll find my checks are printed on weird paper,
< 1392877424 958017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the banking system is not really based on secrets and authentication; rather it's based on fraud detection, liability, and rollback
< 1392877439 606652 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Which is not even a requirement.
< 1392877439 791808 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, where the hell is my checkbook
< 1392877450 943791 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo did you steal it
< 1392877457 64849 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can stick the routing info on a fucking cow and it's a valid check.
< 1392877459 888036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you can buy a prepaid debit card at a convenience store
< 1392877472 581097 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: was thinking of doing that until I noticed the 'pay by check' option
< 1392877500 399613 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the company is evil. They're just incompetent. If that matters. (They store passwords as plaintext for example0
< 1392877517 217222 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never written a check anyway, i just enter a ten digit number and then a three digit number into a net form
< 1392877528 747049 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Literally 1995-era security
< 1392877538 145206 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the paychecks i got before were labeled with something saying not to accept them if they weren't in green ink
< 1392877541 764555 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell yeah
< 1392877566 681189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey unix had crypt() in 1995
< 1392877622 474451 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And earlier, no?
< 1392877639 947807 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sgeo said "1995-era" though.
< 1392877657 716873 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods
< 1392877696 437793 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$24 for 12 months of being able to have a 3d avatar, yay
< 1392877705 820799 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, crypt() was in System V.
< 1392877716 464159 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Enigma-based though?
< 1392877747 690877 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope this means you had to hook up an enigma machine
< 1392877790 815870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :traditional crypt(1) is Enigma-based.  i don't think crypt(3) ever was, but could be mistaken
< 1392877815 971870 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no entry for crypt in section 1 :(
< 1392877821 705467 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Awww.
< 1392877833 283549 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still have no idea what the sections are
< 1392877852 355169 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :section 1 is commands, seciton 3 is lib functions
< 1392877865 660740 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's in man man.
< 1392877918 380724 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HISTORY A rotor-based crypt() function appeared in Version 6 AT&T UNIX.  The curâ rent style crypt() first appeared in Version 7 AT&T UNIX.
< 1392877923 952748 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*", man"
< 1392877937 933063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: oh
< 1392877950 180780 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :7th ed is aprox 1977 or so
< 1392877957 760718 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it was Enigma-based.
< 1392877959 467483 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beautiful.
< 1392877969 672670 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ENOSYS The crypt() function was not implemented, probably because of U.S.A. export restrictions." that's a pretty good error code
< 1392878091 43188 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rw-r--r--  1 bin  1025  7579 May  4  1979 crypt.c
< 1392878171 166153 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ftp://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub//mirrors/minnie.tuhs.org/PDP-11/Trees/V7/usr/src/libc/gen/crypt.c
< 1392878205 414208 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, when's the epoch again
< 1392878209 584788 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :memfrob(3) is intended as a migration measure from very old crypt(3).
< 1392878221 599640 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :epoch is currently jan 1, 1970.
< 1392878239 131595 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :originally it was different, and they had changed it a few times before they settled on the recent one
< 1392878250 750439 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh for a sec i thought it was 1979
< 1392878258 135427 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did they decide on 1970
< 1392878299 383287 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice, this code uses 'register', i've never seen that outside of knuth
< 1392878329 462605 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...actually, it just says "register i,j,k;" with no type specifier. is it int by default? i don't know k&r
< 1392878341 423898 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true of C in general.
< 1392878351 305407 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"register i;" is valid, if distasteful, C11.
< 1392878356 591583 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh.
< 1392878427 970351 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ftp://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub//mirrors/minnie.tuhs.org/PDP-11/Distributions/research/Dennis_v3/Readme.nsys
< 1392878430 152746 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 1970 was a clean year number close to the origin of Unix.
< 1392878431 368568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just "i;" is still valid yes?
< 1392878432 873853 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :talks about the epoch changes a little
< 1392878439 984038 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No.
< 1392878450 719761 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC C99 changed that.
< 1392878463 314702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it, as a top-level declaration?
< 1392878488 271848 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it is valid.
< 1392878510 755350 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a top level declaration.
< 1392878518 864924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm not sure
< 1392878529 433855 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i just do 'auto i;' then? this is important
< 1392878539 300259 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that is very much valid.
< 1392878545 781189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't declare auto variables at top level though
< 1392878564 190313 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was assuming "in a function".
< 1392878569 642675 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, i meant at not-toplevel.
< 1392878590 86610 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to pattern match on tree structures?
< 1392878607 966496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: uh, sometimes, what's the context here?
< 1392878636 871360 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: In this case it is SQL, although I can write some parts in C if necessary to do so
< 1392878649 828411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you storing trees in SQL?
< 1392878672 602507 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One record for each node, and one field tells the ID of the parent node.
< 1392878700 559562 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392878799 859948 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what sorts of patterns do you want to match?
< 1392878872 633918 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things like, if one node has the value 1 and any of its children have value 5, then match all nodes that come after the one with value 5, is one example
< 1392878893 957738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like something the new SQLite thingy could do, yeah
< 1392878910 391215 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I want to match nodes of a particular type within a node having a particular value
< 1392878923 568072 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there are other things too, and then I want to do replacement on them too
< 1392879017 328535 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone here written a sigbovik paper
< 1392879037 881674 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when will iso or ieee standardize brainfuck?
< 1392879050 170659 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and finally put an end to all the BF splintering
< 1392879081 146993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm holding out for MIL-STD brainfuck
< 1392879108 190672 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how you would do this kinds of pattern matching? (Even if it isn't done in SQL)
< 1392879268 39621 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo83: in ieee-sql or milstd sql?
< 1392879347 112068 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: In SQLite.
< 1392879511 239429 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :select children from parent where childrens parents are one and children have 5 or are like near something with a five;
< 1392879610 503315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is "like near something with a five"?
< 1392880113 100488 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1392882034 298415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out the command to use a WITH clause to renumber based on the other ordering:  with sub1(num,res) as (select 1,min(word) from table1 union all select num+1,min(word) from sub1 join table1 where word>res limit (select count() from table1)) select * from sub1;
< 1392882218 384998 :atriq!~Taneb@pc621s.cs.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392882220 246476 :atriq!~Taneb@pc621s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping
< 1392882220 431672 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong
< 1392882225 953653 :atriq!~Taneb@pc621s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm
< 1392882242 518807 :atriq!~Taneb@pc621s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I (Taneb) am still awake. And now I am on campus.
< 1392882263 402258 :atriq!~Taneb@pc621s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :The internet seems to be not working, at least for http and ssh
< 1392882269 19451 :atriq!~Taneb@pc621s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc works somehow
< 1392882319 414815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dns issue?
< 1392882369 848844 :atriq!~Taneb@pc621s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno, don't particularly care
< 1392882393 871111 :atriq!~Taneb@pc621s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to be able to connect to at least google, reddit, and wikipedia
< 1392882405 776871 :atriq!~Taneb@pc621s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the connection seems slow
< 1392882411 579242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know those all supported irc
< 1392882442 188988 :atriq!~Taneb@pc621s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :(all those for http)
< 1392882475 428516 :atriq!~Taneb@pc621s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :The connection to the university's website seems stable, which would make sense seeing as I am in the university
< 1392882553 628820 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Read error: No route to host
< 1392882595 655325 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392882724 820077 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily I updated them things.
< 1392882725 5136 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1392882725 824681 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever happened to that small Linux machine?
< 1392882735 464787 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which?
< 1392882736 882355 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That also acted like a gaming device
< 1392882759 845878 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouya?
< 1392882788 892688 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arguably, that's a small Android machine, even if there's some Linux in it.
< 1392882829 179643 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not Ouya
< 1392882835 92761 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portable device
< 1392882835 277544 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got Linux. Userspace isn't Linus's responsibility. :)
< 1392882847 785695 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan That's more to do with the 256 than the "two small-ish primes", though.
< 1392882847 970671 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1392882849 448409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Android can take credit for making "GNU/Linux" an actually relevant distinction
< 1392882862 234794 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, handheld device
< 1392882877 118909 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Open Pandora
< 1392883015 404722 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, it costs a lot
< 1392883027 708859 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1392883028 934014 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much more than, say, a PS Vita
< 1392883070 685051 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392883139 443814 :atriq!~Taneb@pc621s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly, I can browse the web on my tablet via wifi just fine
< 1392883166 437901 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine you pay a lot for the lower production run.
< 1392883196 69556 :atriq!~Taneb@pc621s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo "just fine"
< 1392883250 65785 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google should have an IRC-based search interface.
< 1392883294 435748 :atriq!~Taneb@pc621s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if any of the breakfast buying places are open
< 1392883312 138425 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does 7-Eleven count as a breakfast buying place?
< 1392883324 603080 :atriq!~Taneb@pc621s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, I don't think there are any of those near here
< 1392883340 117373 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, sgeo
< 1392883407 223642 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweden, Norway and Denmark all have some 7-11's, but Finland does not. :/
< 1392883437 605541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For a time in the early 1980s Slurpees were sold in 7-Eleven stores in Sweden, but nowadays Slush Puppies are sold instead."  Thank you, Wikipedia, for this fact.
< 1392883519 66445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :7-Eleven in Japan sells 4 liter plastic bottles of liquor
< 1392883546 984968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i live next to a 7-Eleven® store, but i have never consumed a Slurpee® frozen beverage
< 1392883564 50958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even on the 11th of july
< 1392883583 656917 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 7th of november?
< 1392883603 75330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i live in the united states
< 1392883604 100588 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Slurpees, however, returned to Japan at some 7-Eleven locations in 2011, although the Japanese Slurpee machines are meant to be operated differently from other Slurpee machines."
< 1392883613 805202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't really know Slurpee® was such a thing.
< 1392883666 805663 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I knew there was a thing called Big Gulp through pop-cultural osmosis, but I didn't realize it was a 7-Eleven thing.
< 1392883693 968 :atriq!~Taneb@pc621s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not even know that
< 1392883780 22959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Big Gulp, Super Big Gulp, Double Gulp and Gulp are genetically engineered to quench even the most diabolical thirst."  I guess that last one is smaller than the regular one? 
< 1392883912 928677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it seems
< 1392883916 545160 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Super Big Gulp is 1.3 litres?! (I suppose I shouldn't be surprised here.)
< 1392884080 122859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it, though
< 1392884101 534690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just the name for a cup, or also a beverage?
< 1392884135 583033 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slurpee is a beverage-like thing
< 1392884201 59026 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can tell, the Big Gulp is both the refillable cup and six different flavours of soda.
< 1392884208 894586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe more than six.
< 1392884215 719429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: wasn't that the thing you had that one time?
< 1392884271 855200 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1392884291 357443 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392884343 155117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1392884361 19550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes I did buy some variety of Big Gulp in your presence once
< 1392884390 123053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may have been a Super Big Gulp
< 1392884412 407373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip Double Gulp
< 1392884413 924970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know which size, i just remember the cup
< 1392884418 284682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one was almost 2 liters
< 1392884459 644404 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google says Double Gulp is "only" 50 oz, which would (narrowly) round down to 1, being approximately 1.47868 litres.
< 1392884468 209141 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be 64 oz though
< 1392884473 924837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Well, then.
< 1392884508 786809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: whoa, did you convert that to litres in your head
< 1392884511 694438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you the wizard of oz
< 1392884522 604836 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I converted it to litres in my Google. :/
< 1392884537 884043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever seen a single drink bigger than 0.6 l (20 wizards of oz) from food places in Finland. (Discounting things like a 1 l pitcher that's clearly designed for more than one person, since you don't drink out of it.)
< 1392884563 440528 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I had already written a "wizard of oz" "joke" there several comments ago, I just kept being interrupted.)
< 1392884708 717709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you don't drink out of it
< 1392884734 123730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i think i considered purchasing some Slurpee® or Big Gulp® flavored beverage this one time
< 1392884741 865615 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i looked for an ingredients list and couldn't find it
< 1392884794 131834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They serve it in something almost exactly like this http://www.hiwtc.com/photo/products/22/15/67/156709.jpg and while I'm sure one could drink from it, it doesn't really look like it's the intended porpoise.
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< 1392918595 249473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to the telephone number lookup service, I got a call from someone called "Test 3". (Possibly the third child of a mad scientist?)
< 1392919218 888841 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^
< 1392919276 945839 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This issue of 2600 mentions someone who has a problem with a rootkit that stores self-extracting copies of itself in the hard drive, memory RAM disks, and BIOS.
< 1392919414 80622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know if it is true, but apparently "no one has ever heard of anything like it". Apparently if you try to install any version of Windows you get a stripped-down Windows NT 2008 running nothing but BitTorrent, if you try to install any version of Linux you get a corrupted version of ISOLINUX, and if you try to install any version of DOS you get a corrupted version of FreeDOS.
< 1392919482 34329 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It mentions the autoexec.bat file containing pages and pages of simple "for" and "case" blocks. But, DOS doesn't have "case" blocks.
< 1392919628 63756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know anything about this?
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< 1392919732 76246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like bs
< 1392919830 649188 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392922242 228194 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would be very impressed if such a rootkit existed
< 1392923215 37693 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean "if you try to install any version of Linux you get a corrupted version of ISOLINUX"
< 1392923220 674211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISOLINUX isn't a distribution
< 1392923350 288040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 2600 available online
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< 1392926700 482694 :spiette!~spiette@209.197.159.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://spritesmods.com/?art=hddhack&page=1
< 1392927053 737522 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No.
< 1392927055 399575 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
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< 1392929970 732453 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.114.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is anyone here is Austria? There's a Core War event happening this weekend...
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< 1392936597 303967 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 14h 57m 52s ago: I updated them things.
< 1392936610 828840 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziello. thanks!
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< 1392936847 881365 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellœrjan.
< 1392936872 590209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heily
< 1392936945 241771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@passages-loud
< 1392936945 426785 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 15h 1m 37s ago: That's more to do with the 256 than the "two small-ish primes", though.
< 1392936988 245983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah good spam, i was wondering if agora was back in a lull or if my email wasn't working
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< 1392937112 950766 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im comparing a constant fixed width string
< 1392937127 246713 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh?
< 1392937132 191502 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in brainfuck
< 1392937133 535980 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :An excellent video, but wat @ the spreadsheet thing. Solving 256·320^(n−1) s = 10^100 years would have been a bit simpler. http://youtu.be/F1CddzgVW14
< 1392937163 852660 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: ah.
< 1392937182 520170 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im looking for an efficient way to see if a range of memory is zero
< 1392937183 664486 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is “pålegg” a real Norwegian word?
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< 1392937218 498372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes, with at least two different meanings
< 1392937263 624678 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I am intrigued.
< 1392937265 491029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most common one being anything you put on top of a slice of bread, i.e. ~ en:condiments iirc
< 1392937267 24397 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello qlkzy
< 1392937268 283211 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qlkzello
< 1392937287 692533 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that is something I can find myself agreeing with.
< 1392937303 80711 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know i can just have a bunch of "x==0"s
< 1392937304 459766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: en:condiments mostly refers to things like salt, sugar, pepper
< 1392937304 974559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i think en:condiments is rather wider in meaning
< 1392937310 766858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh.
< 1392937312 563163 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that requires inversion
< 1392937315 393929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think
< 1392937325 874673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe irw then
< 1392937346 470646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's on top of a slice of bread, which is a very norwegian thing to do.
< 1392937349 918597 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i only have 1 open value left of the string
< 1392937398 69056 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? irw
< 1392937398 923893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :irw? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1392937402 280029 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck irw
< 1392937402 559292 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information
< 1392937422 123702 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: the equality comparisons take up too much space?
< 1392937441 780059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok en:garnish also overlaps, but isn't quite there either.
< 1392937442 624069 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1392937453 753468 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. mmmmh.... eeeeeh...
< 1392937454 479656 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not really
< 1392937464 494917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "i recall wrong" which may confuse you on the grounds that i made it up on the spot
< 1392937483 9674 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tdphbirns.
< 1392937507 730859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand, but i still think a touché is called for.
< 1392937521 370925 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :":brainf^vck"(-:>)>[-]<<[<]>> is what i use to get the difference and zero the end
< 1392937526 59816 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: traditional Montréal condiments include: chopped onions, coleslaw and prepared mustard.
< 1392937613 686651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION guesses "that did perhaps help but i'm really not sure"
< 1392937649 673771 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decretes oerjan to be this chännel's Official Psychic Person.
< 1392937668 509977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as expected.
< 1392937730 608957 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan
< 1392937731 480135 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a lying Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl.
< 1392937754 419944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: what language is that?
< 1392937770 688032 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks suspiciously like a BF variant
< 1392937781 156459 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392937797 956624 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, its BF but i use macros
< 1392937810 959871 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://puu.sh/73Kiy.png
< 1392937816 61214 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ER, wrong pic
< 1392937823 879292 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://puu.sh/73HGe.png
< 1392937846 562083 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KITTEH! ^^
< 1392937865 625102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://no.wiktionary.org/wiki/p%C3%A5legg lists the two other meanings as well: (2) an addition, in particular a salary or price raise (3) a bureaucratic order
< 1392937868 77043 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Derp"(+:>) will load "Derp" into memory
< 1392937887 685782 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what would be proper english for (3)
< 1392937902 571811 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it puts each char's byte as :
< 1392937916 250331 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so in Norway salaries are slices of bread? fascinating.
< 1392937922 828967 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so +123>+364> etc
< 1392937942 398675 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and +1337 translates to 1337 pluses
< 1392937962 798187 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it helps me keep my sanity
< 1392937970 871547 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your wondering, im making an IRC bot
< 1392937978 793328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hey "matpakke" is important!
< 1392937979 92439 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me brb
< 1392937981 717264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1392938047 378150 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: after seasons and seasons of watched anime, I couldn't agree more.
< 1392938067 817771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the page helpfully has a german translation, "Auflage"
< 1392938099 677450 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect common linguistic roots.
< 1392938115 346588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1392938164 450972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :en.wiktionary suggests "condition" for Auflage, which doesn't really fit too well.
< 1392938194 743773 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :condi{tion,ment}. the edit distance isn't that far!
< 1392938212 922661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to read the german one
< 1392938240 759776 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-152-250.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1392938277 613034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not entirely sure but i don't think _any_ of the meanings in de.wiktionary fit.
< 1392938288 279142 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice 20
< 1392938288 463916 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4  --- Sum = 4
< 1392938293 799301 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. they don't fit.
< 1392938306 118369 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1392938316 477792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first would be closest, but...
< 1392938354 649524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well.
< 1392938416 489002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, you _could_ get a pålegg from a court, but that's not the only possible source.
< 1392938437 461452 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as Sriracha and hoisin sauce can both be considered påleggifiable, I am happy.
< 1392938550 124722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they _might_.  they're not precisely the most intended referent.
< 1392938569 62036 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. something something eggs and salmon and dill something.
< 1392938575 796896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheese, bologna, liver paté, that sort of thing.
< 1392938588 729173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which happens to be samples from my fridge.)
< 1392938632 265305 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1392938657 381743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also strawberry jam, mackerel in tomato sauce, and cod caviar.
< 1392938669 490338 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. strawberry jam, with all of that?
< 1392938681 971886 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is mildly distressed at the idea.
< 1392938683 577211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rarely on the same slice, no
< 1392938690 366203 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. thanks fungot.
< 1392938690 661862 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ( deretardations removing the obviously ugly design of a module system is
< 1392938708 627825 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: deretardation, as in... progress?
< 1392938709 22124 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'll probably stop programming the day i will hit the end of the program. it turns i broke both fnord chips, or then it's the top level
< 1392938730 684675 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  boily: i'll probably stop programming the day i will hit the end of the program.
< 1392938731 216538 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: mut ku ois pakko antaa' would be much better company. i'm constantly trying to extract what should be opened to use define-interface and define-structure in scheme48? i see a " 3"
< 1392938731 577156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall trying out jam and peanut butter, back when i ate that and wanted to try this typical american thing.
< 1392938732 540380 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1168)  boily: i'll probably stop programming the day i will hit the end of the program.
< 1392938760 925618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please stay safely within your endless loop twh
< 1392938761 173226 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but keep in mind i still don't see ( perhaps for performance reasons
< 1392938781 669432 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :balancing parentheses impacts fungot's performance.
< 1392938781 854301 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 10 seconds?" s: " lemme check... 15 minutes
< 1392938788 629433 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :case in point.
< 1392938794 600292 :^v!~Kevin@2601:4:4500:887:39e8:b4d1:ebf4:f981 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392938812 697044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: have you put ( traps i fungot's code to cause em to halt?  how evil.
< 1392938813 97511 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sorry if i can't get gauche to build under ubuntu when fnord is not a ' good macro system'; it is a simple stack based machine
< 1392938814 733327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in
< 1392938857 722267 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392938858 989133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf am i drooling on my t-shirt
< 1392939056 492137 :ping!~Kevin@2601:4:4500:887:a567:f403:72cf:2a56 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392939080 380217 :ping!~Kevin@2601:4:4500:887:a567:f403:72cf:2a56 NICK :Guest90544
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< 1392939321 478580 :^v!~Kevin@2601:4:4500:887:a567:f403:72cf:2a56 QUIT :Client Quit
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< 1392939348 186046 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bak
< 1392940229 230155 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAA I HAVE ONION JUICE IN MY EYES AAAAAAAAAAAH!
< 1392940603 713672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suddenly wonder if the onion ever did an article about that.
< 1392940656 358255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this leaves me confident in my habit of never cooking any meal more complicated than frozen pizza.
< 1392940769 812812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION helpfully fills the saucepan with water and empties it onto boily's face ===/^^^\
< 1392940933 809991 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Try naga jolokia next. That’s fun.
< 1392941145 825734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like the bhut of many practical jokes.
< 1392941257 841351 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: <3 frozen pizza
< 1392941284 157451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :such crunchy goodness.  but bad for teeth.
< 1392941288 501416 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392941328 427810 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is frozen pizza cheap in .no?
< 1392941343 109265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no food is cheap in .no.
< 1392941343 320988 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wherever you are
< 1392941363 460815 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in .uk frozen pizza was approximately the cheapest food, i could get a frozen pizza that weighed a pound and cost a pound
< 1392941381 951124 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :here in .us frozen pizza is annoyingly expensive, buying prepared pizza is actually cheaper!
< 1392941416 879324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok norway is not _that_ bad.
< 1392941422 460854 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :frozen pizza is around CAD 7.
< 1392941443 214712 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can get a decent slice of hot prepared pizza for $1
< 1392941459 904795 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1392941460 190192 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1392941477 203359 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the place offering this near my house closes at midnights, though others elsewhere in the city are open all hours
< 1392941561 5095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc the pizzas i buy are about $10, but they're not the cheapest, the cheapest don't get me full...
< 1392941573 833767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard norwegian pizzas are v. expensive
< 1392941585 171058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the price i heard was ~$30
< 1392941606 161587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be in a restaurant.
< 1392941624 251939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1392941651 129867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the small size is cheaper than that in the restaurant i like to go to, but i rarely buy pizza there.
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< 1392941975 516577 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is vim particularly likbut tather know-and-peck?
< 1392941977 734984 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n't really touch-type, but rather know-and-peck?
< 1392941984 371840 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the gibberish that just got typed in didn't go through, according to the logs?
< 1392941990 962452 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um.
< 1392941995 402976 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi
< 1392941995 587514 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: then how about assigning ' fnord'. what does. :d
< 1392941999 811457 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 'hi'
< 1392942001 430063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looked pretty gibberish to me
< 1392942007 271660 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Sgeo
< 1392942025 510350 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It.... seems like it took a while for anything to go from my client to channel
< 1392942040 850056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to glogbot, perhaps
< 1392942064 117282 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot took 11 seconds to respond to me?
< 1392942064 361329 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i guess i will do when i get to go!! i'm a genius! let me know
< 1392942079 398089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty quick now
< 1392942081 892502 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, more than that
< 1392942083 805917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi
< 1392942084 231664 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it could potentially be awesome. gatech, caltech, berkeley and a few other pessimal algos too
< 1392942092 85875 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what I intended to say in the first place:
< 1392942107 760555 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is vim particularly likely to be bad if I don't really touch-type, but rather know-and-peck?
< 1392942211 288929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that apply to vim as opposed to any other editor?
< 1392942241 736572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :muscle memory is important for all editors, surely
< 1392942242 77678 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because vim apparently encourages keeping hands on the home row, which I don't normally do while typing?
< 1392942244 41503 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so any halp with moi brainfuck problem
< 1392942258 41767 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have muscle memory, it just doesn't particularly involve the home row as much as genuine touch-typing
< 1392942279 333835 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Sgeo-brand typing, not standard-brand typing
< 1392942350 684586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might chastise you, but my touch typing has slipped and my fingers rarely stay stable on the home row.
< 1392942379 896792 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Bike wanted to see a video of me typing
< 1392942384 998579 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still have yet to make tht
< 1392942386 193606 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that
< 1392942393 404861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also as someone who uses vim _without_ using the hjkl commands much, i might not be one to ask.
< 1392942418 713778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"home row" is asdf hjkl anyway
< 1392942426 37058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i use them in visual mode, but only because gvim has a bug that makes arrows not work there)
< 1392942452 760969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on windows at least
< 1392942789 553623 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392943091 252736 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks his inventory. “I have: one slightly-humid upended saucepan, one onion juice, and one absence of egglplant.”
< 1392943100 852431 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/lp/p/
< 1392943373 733228 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem!
< 1392943456 391532 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*♪ sound of a not quite exactly brillant idea suddenly appearing ♪*
< 1392943469 816407 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should include that in the next Paranoïa campaign.
< 1392943492 754466 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hezzo38. how's the dnding going?
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< 1392944599 22590 :boily1!~boily@96.127.201.149 NICK :boily
< 1392944636 431386 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes a random Norwegian, just to see if Freenode's back to normal...
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< 1392945236 202163 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392945252 121310 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Sorry, there was a connection error on my computer.
< 1392945424 97719 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same here.
< 1392945435 239172 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1392945540 489092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the random norwegian was reading a web page about a proposed wikimedia TOS change
< 1392945553 708776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now food ->
< 1392945595 323288 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392945794 369850 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only way to make brainfuck not make your eyes bleed is to convert it to whitespace
< 1392945889 426254 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's the paper that bleeds.
< 1392945919 133126 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can turn BF to ascii art
< 1392945923 733653 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392945952 342336 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392953403 606313 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392955693 62615 :kmc_!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :kmc
< 1392955713 977679 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392956373 124793 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The recursive queries in SQL kind of resemble the "for-input" loop in the Wheat esolang.
< 1392956438 865815 :shikhin!~Shikhin@59.177.194.23 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392956444 27694 :shikhin!~Shikhin@59.177.194.23 QUIT :Changing host
< 1392956444 212874 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392956684 911168 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of as if it is a Wheat program that has an implicit "for-input" loop with no other "input" commands in it. It isn't actually like that, but that is something a bit similar!
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< 1392957271 236586 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk
< 1392957395 631208 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITH `SEQUENCE`(`DATA`) AS (SELECT '0' UNION ALL SELECT `DATA` || REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(`DATA`,'0','-'),'1','0'),'-','1') FROM `SEQUENCE`) SELECT * FROM `SEQUENCE`;
< 1392957470 747816 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you recognize it?
< 1392957479 738060 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1392957669 740412 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1392957722 185723 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392958126 844772 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://24.media.tumblr.com/abfd0b7842bb2e9eb96ad5570a85376f/tumblr_n1bwvrkMj51qjr3c0o1_500.jpg up for secrets
< 1392959139 826131 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ilex-press/kickstarter-succeed-first-time-a-guide-to-crowdfun only 25% of target
< 1392959161 721828 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, 34%, can't math
< 1392959206 411474 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes everyone
< 1392959215 444976 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitch plays microcorruption anyone?
< 1392959219 340350 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops wrong room
< 1392959221 822758 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who wants to see my brainfuck irc bot
< 1392959242 40407 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v that sentence has some unusual alternate parses
< 1392959316 405095 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well here it is http://pastebin.com/kUBUb4ps
< 1392959422 249371 :password2!~password@197.78.173.210 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392959825 825652 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully you can understand what this SQL program means. (If not, I can explain it.)
< 1392960101 165109 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you know how to solve a jigsaw puzzle (aka wang tile puzzle) in polynomial time?
< 1392960376 88657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd expect that to be NP-complete
< 1392960427 176926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that the infinite generalization is turing complete, and i don't know any explicit reason why it wouldn't be
< 1392960442 175770 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392960444 656326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's obviously in NP for a finite setup
< 1392960504 957667 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I make a tree pattern matching program in C which compiles into SQL?
< 1392960576 170483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can already be done in SQL but since such pattern matching codes can be long, I want to provide a function which can compile a tree pattern code into an SQL code
< 1392960587 26158 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or else do just do it entirely in C)
< 1392960656 771870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopi1: ^
< 1392960845 353543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it is faster/more efficient to do entirely in C, but maybe it is better to do it in SQL, or maybe in a combination of SQL and C; I don't know what way.
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< 1392960979 721977 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it is NP-complete. i looked it up finally. but i was confused because some author claimed it was in P in some publisher's weekly article.
< 1392960996 764026 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i knew the infinite case was undecidable
< 1392961012 362589 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which seemed wrong, but i assume i'm wrong first until other evidence arises
< 1392961013 899633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1392962565 736667 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1392962672 508026 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I just buy an entire collection of Worms games on Steam? I believe I just did
< 1392962673 674279 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/
< 1392962689 122347 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already had W:A... I think I saw Worms Blast in there and some memory of it made me want it
< 1392962718 534525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :worms blast is literally puzzle bobble...
< 1392962787 442401 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, if only i had some kind of influence on my purchasing habits
< 1392962826 821077 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's the same as Frozen Bubble?
< 1392962858 821054 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, at least there's some other games in here that aren't the normal Worms games, but are distinctly Wormy?
< 1392962871 698442 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't there one where the main game mode is ... something to do with forts?
< 1392962906 455003 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392962914 748783 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem to be in this package
< 1392962961 85359 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1392962973 223907 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1392963039 117953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh USPS package tracking, you are so useless
< 1392963051 661372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392963052 974596 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :concacoin gibblercoin pogoncoin shogocoin gason-of-unbuicoin wiicoin sorielcoin comcoin dimecoin caucoin con-of-unbecoin fibracoin minkcoin prefcoin tlwncoin notheriacoin bitwiserticcoin talcoin smuehcoin chineilcoin
< 1392963083 883217 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1392963084 68297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392963084 253187 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1392963085 342470 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cosmitycoin surgasonalipticcoin randacoin gayakucoin bam12coin hayacoin wilsecoin salcoin iscabcomcoin flangcoin ptacoin lo'scoin syndcoin mureheatespacseaucoin dorphinecoin botativecoin superpcoin salagonacoin indencoin scriptcoin
< 1392963148 182288 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the 3d games aren't in here :(
< 1392963163 530807 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3
< 1392963181 833704 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there is one
< 1392963199 26486 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1392963236 304325 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does only W:A support recording games?
< 1392963589 68128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only cellular automaton games hth
< 1392963742 112824 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have C codes with stuff like this?   if(*rule=='#' && (rule++,!is_weaving)) return;
< 1392963796 334792 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392963830 11495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How common are a negative array index access in a C program?
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< 1392964326 567560 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Client Quit
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< 1392964627 175187 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Client Quit
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< 1392967701 157867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving
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< 1392968672 335373 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if it would be unethical to buy a Worlds VIP
< 1392968682 66571 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering that Worlds, Inc. is pretty much a patent troll
< 1392968910 766095 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what they say.
< 1392968959 6596 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1392968995 949159 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said, "you know what they say."
< 1392968996 897092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392968998 240021 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dyncoin brcnicoin compliticoin prakircoin this=thacoin pipenacoin anousercoin intrencoin destacoin glaurcoin dubicoin bengecoin locacoin funderlcoin agelcoin madnesetlamblecoin ruitcoin concoin biiecoin nandocoin
< 1392969130 61713 :MoALTz!~no@109.243.161.205 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392971203 932632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1392971205 421963 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sotacoin confcoin soutcoin bachycoin fttcoin simputcoin bligaracecoin fuelcoin dececoin memcoin puzafecoin remcoin ///coin tre-calcoin delmincoin sanncoin iincoin frapkcoin cheddainfursecoin minaturcoin
< 1392971848 108510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://vill.ee/eye/
< 1392972218 387303 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392972220 397688 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :...we came in? | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | Isn't this where...
< 1392972343 923272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungots fall on fungot falls
< 1392972344 174910 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so that's only 1600. just didn't find anything out about it
< 1392972631 241187 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392973876 442470 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Quit: Tritonio
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< 1392975137 301872 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notice the built-in cigarette lighter and the ashtray just left of the light pen. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SAGE_console.jpeg
< 1392975287 754112 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
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< 1392976390 282534 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: huh, I guess smoking was amazingly much more normal in the past
< 1392976429 548618 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and you can't have your radar people go on smoke breaks and leave the monitors unmonitored
< 1392976703 902109 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1392976709 700324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have to use that thing for real, smoking is definitely the right choice
< 1392976726 335798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you need to be calm and alert and you're probably about to die anyway.
< 1392976766 852578 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has seen that very object in person, at the Computer History Museum
< 1392976982 438746 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have to use that, aren't you in some bunker deep inside a secret mountain in the middle of nowhere?
< 1392976999 302273 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. "safe"
< 1392977268 559851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well SAGE predates the Cheyenne Mountain bunker by some 10 years
< 1392977317 870146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were located in above-ground buildings that are hardened but probably not indestructible
< 1392977394 525291 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, I was assuming some obscure game console based on the file name.
< 1392977422 814472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Are there any game consoles with integrated ashtrays?)
< 1392977542 839357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the SABRE airline booking system was conceived after the president of American Airlines happened to be sitting on a flight next to an IBM salesman who'd just worked on SAGE
< 1392977954 211658 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The result was that the aircraft could deliver passengers faster than their existing booking systems could sell tickets for them."
< 1392977957 553509 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(about the preceding booking system, the Magnetronic Reservisor, after introducing jet planes)
< 1392977979 842077 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1392979025 437582 :qlkzy!~qlkzy@li559-28.members.linode.com QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1392982058 334845 :qlkzy!~qlkzy@li559-28.members.linode.com QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1392984376 66606 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish there was a way to transfer panes from tmux server 7 to 8
< 1392984393 449419 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to test out tmux 8 but can't while 7 is running
< 1392984396 595085 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover NICK :FreeFull
< 1392984516 420961 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392984677 744064 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1392984678 667406 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
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< 1392986193 150760 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392986498 321190 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1392986930 788104 :qlkzy!~qlkzy@li559-28.members.linode.com PART :#esoteric
< 1392986941 925132 :utkarsh!utkarsh@unaffiliated/utkarsh PART #esoteric :"Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"
< 1392987072 424558 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392987509 128767 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twitch Plays Dwarf Fortress?
< 1392987539 90677 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHERE IS THE BEER URIST
< 1392988426 109796 :password2!~password@197.78.189.210 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
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< 1392990425 97510 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk
< 1392991078 798221 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: there's a version 8?
< 1392991082 789652 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1392991085 521783 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's not new
< 1392991093 807465 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1392991097 993041 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :nyuszika7h@cadoth ~ % tmux -V
< 1392991099 802934 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmux 1.8
< 1392991107 103993 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: you can transfer programs
< 1392991113 275664 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :transfer them to screen first, then to a new tmux
< 1392991115 826822 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :using reptyr
< 1392991120 326096 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure the TERM is the same, however
< 1392991131 288656 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the TERM in tmux is screen, the TERM in screen should be screen too
< 1392991139 792180 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1392991142 59680 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's screen-256color, it should be screen-256color in screen too
< 1392991172 709806 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h JOIN :#esoteric
< 1392991202 936203 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nyuszika7h: I meant 9
< 1392991207 641736 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :9? :O
< 1392991209 872142 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb updating
< 1392991220 417605 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, reptyr ;)
< 1392991234 790309 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't heard of reptyr before
< 1392991253 101481 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for telling me about it
< 1392991254 427293 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :it rarely likes to break though, so don't risk it if you run important programs
< 1392991266 950476 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can't afford being down for a few seconds or mintwesu
< 1392991268 288187 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :*minutes
< 1392991281 748409 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually have screen installed right now
< 1392991303 786641 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want to transfer irssi =P
< 1392991318 943628 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1392991324 501601 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you make the new tmux server use another socket
< 1392991362 139599 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmux -L foo
< 1392991888 499752 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.4-dev
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< 1392992867 94746 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 NICK :quintopia
< 1392992878 123175 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Changing host
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< 1392995356 571238 :CADD_!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tmrznkzzyvztnztz QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
< 1392995384 219523 :conehead__!uid16140@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zoiyqlydfqqvcfoe QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
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< 1392996408 332960 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a copy of a key, which fits, and it turns, but fails to lock or unlock the door. I compared it with the original, and it matches, and the original key works. Do you know what is wrong?
< 1392996533 417712 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you know it matches
< 1392996657 611006 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I compared it very carefully
< 1392996681 874163 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By lookin'?
< 1392996698 887440 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is possible that a different of a micron might not work
< 1392996832 847379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :By looking, yes
< 1392998859 313579 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-155.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393000037 833062 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the usual method is the return the key to where you've had it copied and demand a new copy, but make sure the template you're copying from is an original, not a copy
< 1393000287 892543 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1393001487 355353 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: OK
< 1393002155 208763 :blotter!~blotter@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393002600 156256 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393002868 823368 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-17174.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1393003255 220196 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people say the flippers make a pinball game skillful. That isn't true; while there is skill involved in effectively using the flippers, that isn't what makes the game skilful.
< 1393003285 804286 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The skill is finding a job to get the money to put inside
< 1393003326 157831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is what some people say too, but that has nothing to do with a pinball game.
< 1393003384 851046 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you own a pinball table, you may not need to put a coin (and if you do, you can get it back).
< 1393004690 732180 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1393005058 577793 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
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< 1393005697 449121 :blotter!~blotter@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393006126 475488 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393006318 89335 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1393006318 276443 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1393006465 578923 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1393007201 662216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mame/radiation-hardened-quine
< 1393007218 853604 :blotter!~blotter@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1393007428 103158 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally
< 1393008047 483113 :blotter!~blotter@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393008178 1066 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what makes it skillful then?
< 1393008225 291984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what do you think of Twitch Plays Pokémon?
< 1393008234 352595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you think of Twitch Plays Pokémon?
< 1393008234 584087 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i thought optimistic/ pessimistic concurrency was an implementation that doesn't have to
< 1393008250 436503 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :democracy!!
< 1393008263 873558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anarchy!!
< 1393008304 798399 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393008497 801045 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1393008539 765749 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393008563 796277 :password2!~password@197.78.160.143 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1393008568 752017 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393008633 525234 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :start9
< 1393008633 710505 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :start9
< 1393008633 895741 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :start9
< 1393008634 81317 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :start9
< 1393008635 662234 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393008639 748287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1393008644 109082 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393008645 859958 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aeocoin singcoin 5-logiccoin thinecoin clocoin jugglyphoboldcoin flaneurcoin meanycoin chacoin pathcoin nicecoin hydracoin bf-derosicoin landballcoin hevavecoin bitzogtcoin cobbycoin conicoin gola/mcoin inftabllcoin
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< 1393009820 770973 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Quit: realzies
< 1393010004 462424 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't know "Twitch Plays Pokemon", so I don't think of it.
< 1393010237 61155 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393010271 288955 :realz!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393011087 208898 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1393011651 740968 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393011683 963716 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: No route to host
< 1393011849 888231 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393012654 542516 :realz!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Quit: realz
< 1393013074 729628 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1393013440 812665 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you want to learn of it?
< 1393013658 415369 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393013829 908916 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody has written on the chalkboard in the maths department "3987^12 + 4365^12 = 4472^12"
< 1393013865 656901 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3987^12 + 4365^12 == 4472^12
< 1393013867 199454 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : False
< 1393013880 72669 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (^)
< 1393013880 257572 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: well, fuck you
< 1393013881 664789 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Integral b, Num a) => a -> b -> a
< 1393013893 127026 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: nevermind, problem's on my end
< 1393013903 683139 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, clearly it's false since 12 > 2
< 1393013918 195057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure that 12 > 2
< 1393013932 928979 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No I am not much interested at the present time
< 1393013978 329139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ((^), (^^), (**))
< 1393013979 556585 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Floating a2, Fractional a1, Integral b, Integral b1, Num a) => (a -> b -> a, a1 -> b1 -> a1, a2 -> a2 -> a2)
< 1393013985 129419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good type
< 1393013989 550441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1393013991 797670 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t True
< 1393013992 520702 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bool
< 1393013998 817186 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Bool
< 1393013999 681287 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: data constructor `Bool'
< 1393014002 945429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Bool
< 1393014003 975526 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*
< 1393014007 348198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome chaiomanot_ 
< 1393014008 86592 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13chaiomanot_: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.)
< 1393014011 508993 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ack
< 1393014025 20036 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome kmc
< 1393014025 930114 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :08kmc: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02irc.dal.net.)
< 1393014056 995490 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k True
< 1393014058 350876 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Not in scope: type constructor or class `True'
< 1393014058 535721 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    A data constructor of that name is in scope; did you mean -XDataKinds?
< 1393014058 535902 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Perhaps you meant `Tree' (imported from Data.Tree)
< 1393014076 571910 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '3987 12^ 4365 12^+ 4472 12^-n' | dc
< 1393014077 95816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1211886809373872630985912112862690
< 1393014089 250844 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see lambdabot, you're why i don't like static typing
< 1393014094 106492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess that's p. close?)
< 1393014095 698826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1393014103 615324 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bool is a type, so it has a kind, not a type. True is a value, so it has a type, not a kind
< 1393014117 478092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you use DataKinds hth
< 1393014120 499622 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, but :t Bool should return Type, not an error!
< 1393014120 723208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :keeping straight which things are types and which ones aren't is why you don't like static typing?
< 1393014128 185418 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: look, shut up :(
< 1393014130 88386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chaiomanot_: it would with dependent types
< 1393014144 305945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the problem is that Haskell isn't all the way in the deep end of statically typed :)
< 1393014151 75390 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well fair enough
< 1393014152 697374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh, wait, someone was actually getting things mixed up, never mind
< 1393014154 336339 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear making type a type makes all hell break loose
< 1393014165 511386 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about barbers maybe
< 1393014170 175384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's dodgy
< 1393014173 102245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not so bad imo
< 1393014177 485275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually you have like  Set : Set1 : Set2 : ...
< 1393014181 721127 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '3987 12^ 4365 12^+ 4472 12^ f' | dc
< 1393014182 225450 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :63976656348486725806862358322168575784124416 \ 63976656349698612616236230953154487896987106
< 1393014202 108278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you know idris? should i learn idris?
< 1393014212 325520 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh that does seem close
< 1393014217 753954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't know either one
< 1393014232 172321 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: were you at edwinb's talk about it a couple of years ago?
< 1393014235 663498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't know whether you know idris?
< 1393014237 7740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't
< 1393014239 508764 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It's close if you're all floating point.
< 1393014241 565107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in boston
< 1393014256 519902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a good talk
< 1393014261 707798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :octave:1> (3987^12 + 4365^12)^(1/12)
< 1393014261 892787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ans =  4472.0
< 1393014283 529736 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1393014284 964967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines a Flappy Bird clone named Floaty Point
< 1393014369 542549 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking unstable internet
< 1393014382 829311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should learn it and then tell me
< 1393014517 686598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1393014544 107969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: aborting due to 7452 previous errors
< 1393014564 575242 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting
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< 1393015634 303577 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Join to #esoteric was synced in 464 secs
< 1393015692 684617 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :speedy
< 1393015693 674335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393015694 972840 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arrocoin hartransomskjcoin orthcoin elorifidcoin .yachectcoin temparcoin formylecoin proogucoin pyriacoin burecoin zowiercoin braincoin cobospeacoin triacoin puccinforcoin elfcoin rococoin prdcatcoin waduzicoin yourcomcoin
< 1393016000 703212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What are you using all these coins for? 
< 1393016007 203172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :flipping
< 1393016624 273775 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/harvard-supercomputing-cluster-hijacked-to-produce-alt-cryptocurrency/ student steals supercomputer for doges
< 1393016846 814702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1393016996 598119 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon we'll hear about tsmc facilities being hijacked to make miner asics
< 1393017013 559921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should i learn idris and/or rust
< 1393017045 802400 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably
< 1393017239 159080 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
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< 1393017415 138945 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i define FOO=/some/path in bash, can i get tab completion for $FOO/?
< 1393017814 535499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATTRIBUTE_NAMES[574] = ATTR_VERYVERYTHICKMATHSPACE;
< 1393018156 91181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pokemon cards GUST OF WIND is mainly useful to switch into opponent's cards having high retreat cost, especially to me. Often even if they are resisted to me, it is more helpful.
< 1393018170 263343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think so too?
< 1393019035 905760 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in
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< 1393020658 667112 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curiosity question: has anything used a 2x2 RGGB Bayer pattern in a display instead of a sensor? 
< 1393020725 282591 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the XO-1 screen is... not a Bayer pattern, but weird http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:XO_screen_01_Pengo.jpg
< 1393020752 91502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty close to a Bayer pattern.
< 1393020762 469251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the same density of all three colors. they're just in diagonal stripes
< 1393020766 461454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a second to see it
< 1393020767 850064 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1393020772 240609 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it did take a second.
< 1393020793 96100 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that you mention that, I think I vaguely recall some other "odd" arrangement.
< 1393020795 430802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they did this in order to use a single diffraction grating instead of a lot of filters
< 1393020811 684607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PenTile ?
< 1393020820 500590 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1393021054 600190 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1393021700 914865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting asides found while Googling for this: a downsampling algorithm that goes directly from a Bayer-pattern sensor image to a RGB subpixel screen image, that's supposedly better than doing a traditional demosaicing and then downsampling that disregards the subpixel layout information.
< 1393022071 653420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1393022087 70275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use that for viewing RAW images on LCD monitors
< 1393022340 818459 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The suggested use was for camera viewfinders and screens, since they have to show a downscaled "live view" image.
< 1393022371 492750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has 5 GB of RAW files so far and has done exactly nothing with them
< 1393022383 489392 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah, good
< 1393022403 678882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a MILC with an impressive OLED viewfinder
< 1393022434 761256 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it have 2.36 megadots? 
< 1393022450 948141 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems so
< 1393022466 404302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems to be the norm for modern high-end thingies.
< 1393022484 120451 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also really strange that EVF and camera screen resolutions are given in terms of subpixel counts, while everywhere else displays count full pixels.
< 1393022496 493299 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They must've gotten that from the way sensor resolutions are counted.
< 1393022543 724825 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Like that "2.36 million dots", that's 1024*768*3.)
< 1393022553 889899 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-155.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1393022563 426368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha
< 1393022611 202450 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My old non-ILC zoomy-woomy camera has a 188 kilodot EVF.
< 1393022616 747747 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's significantly less impressive.
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< 1393023477 188515 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleeeeeeeeeerghhh...
< 1393023514 678405 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello helloily
< 1393023547 823691 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello Bikello
< 1393023555 684396 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :h'oily boily
< 1393023564 26978 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello hellolsner
< 1393023579 340941 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or is it olsnello?)
< 1393023583 318282 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone claimed to have made some progress on the voynich manuscript
< 1393023600 451529 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :エェ？本当？
< 1393023603 759969 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :two separate someones!
< 1393023605 691348 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :who will win
< 1393023613 29109 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Newcastle
< 1393023613 876552 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :960)  it's raining in newcastle, therefore the elliotts are distinct.   boily's Newcastle Theorem.
< 1393023617 256117 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL
< 1393023617 836311 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 212252Z 21013KT 15SM SCT060 BKN085 02/00 A2968 RMK SC4AC3 SLP053
< 1393023631 881380 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EGNT
< 1393023632 448904 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGNT 212250Z 23010KT 200V270 9999 FEW018 BKN023 05/03 Q0990
< 1393023660 342801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK
< 1393023660 954385 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 212250Z 11010KT 9999 BKN006 00/M01 Q1006 TEMPO 6000 -SN
< 1393023665 637292 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: as it isn't raining, we don't have proof that there are at least two different people on Earth to claim voynich-progress.
< 1393023672 43073 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some TEMPO -SN.
< 1393023677 837753 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I referred to this someone http://stephenbax.net/)
< 1393023697 656781 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESSA
< 1393023698 220440 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSA 212250Z 22005KT 2500 BR OVC002 03/02 Q0998 R01L/29//95 R01R/29//95 R08/29//95 TEMPO 1400
< 1393023769 776990 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I will read a book
< 1393023958 542409 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the meaning of R01L/29//95 ?
< 1393024090 142206 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: those are runway conditions. 10° leftmost runway, something something, surface conditions.
< 1393024095 761307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393024097 601544 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :peochallcoin scutomousedagonalietcoin linearassurbecoin dnrandreimacrocoin clotacoin poinecoin claitafncoin wormcoin isairicoin selliicoin sobufcoin moniacoin didecoin blackcoin finicoin hapylicoin hydromcoin objectioncalculacoin quecoin halfcoin
< 1393024124 787416 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I never can remember what the magic numbers mean.
< 1393024140 697435 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I see, okay
< 1393024145 320507 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is it me, or are the coin names getting sillier and sillier?
< 1393024170 771842 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invest in poinecoin!
< 1393024217 536619 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a bunch of Quécoins!
< 1393024264 843486 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --swedish
< 1393024266 668450 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :truecoin
< 1393024274 913091 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --swedish 20
< 1393024276 678555 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hommapcoin legidcoin ronecoin smitrevelancoin årlitticoin ardigfillcoin sigacoin intercoin zelcoin @coin mazulecoin tainscoin uncitierdcoin phinecoin pericoin mumonkelxxviiiudgecoin brakapebatocoin datiblemcoin forraphcoin krylcoin
< 1393024291 610231 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --french 20
< 1393024294 546248 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xaincoin 4dlcoin mannstatcoin spironcoin bestantcoin nourvoudcoin eibercicoin haicoin distrancoin graycoin maigecoin sucorpocoin posiicoin brazdcoin embestacoin versenencoin strustitlcoin pingcoin bubbecoin madnscoin
< 1393024330 759710 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --japanese 20
< 1393024332 917795 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: japanese
< 1393024340 507960 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles HackEgo
< 1393024347 100755 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --help
< 1393024348 108133 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] \  \ options: \   -l, --list             list valid datasets \   -d, --debug            debugging output \   -N, --dont-normalize   don't normalize frequencies when combining \                          multiple Markov models; this has the effect \                          of making larger dataset
< 1393024355 118128 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words -l
< 1393024356 40898 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M
< 1393024369 698435 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :manx but not japanese?
< 1393024375 128773 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --manx 20
< 1393024376 911651 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chocoin lo'reravacoin capcoin sanidcoin thummillanencoin shagogcoin ghkincoin luttolercoin physidcoin anumecoin sadolcoin sacriburtcoin bircoin virusthograishcoin lengersecoin shellcoin braghcoin onotacoin eddenncoin nylcoin
< 1393024424 945483 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --hebrew 20
< 1393024427 480884 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :והבדcoin wollencoin unshilaxcoin geolacoin hq9+coin desedjametaligeunstaquecogsbycoin בסבורסטיcoin שהתאניcoin regxcoin epingcoin וההיאהוזיטוראcoin youarecoin alldecoin albocoin שנסתcoin ומהcoin immicoin ובחושcoin exelcoin לקערובצהcoin
< 1393024444 413857 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow.
< 1393024451 550661 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think hq9+ is valid hebrew...
< 1393024452 659590 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just stick with that one
< 1393024470 713865 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: your opinion on --hebres?
< 1393024510 786293 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --hebrew --german-medical 20
< 1393024512 294135 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :subkorpolyt psorisch הוצא בהכלכלה בנחח gast מין ומסירוס לסליקצבי dihydran סקרנב tasoleucin ארנד עוקליסטו sonsweit trikum למעמדתו sequenzele שבאיזודי שהנשמרניש
< 1393024529 317030 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those datasets might not blend very well together..
< 1393024552 508188 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and... uhm.. --canadian-english-insane???
< 1393024561 222355 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --canadian-english-insane 20
< 1393024563 215458 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :irngcoin enedcoin abetacoin cursioncoin vvlercoin kelitafncoin lockcoin uncomcoin ouviacoin myxomcoin tifcoin ferncoin wuttycoin wjyothcoin melshowcoin rposcoin fielcoin durecoin midecoin unrepushedromecoin
< 1393024575 66570 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the last part is implied by 'canadian', isn't it?
< 1393024580 717258 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the -insane just means the volume.
< 1393024626 208903 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wutty vvler that you are, you unrepushedrome person.
< 1393024662 330229 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very wutty.
< 1393024732 554180 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck vvler
< 1393024733 166739 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information
< 1393024835 81904 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck Vyers
< 1393024835 330247 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information
< 1393024927 745259 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393024963 716760 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insanadian is unduckable.
< 1393024969 127227 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome chaiomanot_ 
< 1393024970 253564 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :08chaiomanot_: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02irc.dal.net.)
< 1393024987 339427 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ah, it's been a long time since I've `relcomed someone new!)
< 1393024994 266238 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome boily
< 1393024994 751352 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome boily
< 1393024995 236518 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :04boily: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08irc.dal.net.)
< 1393024995 669255 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :02boily: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13irc.dal.net.)
< 1393024999 898612 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and ooooh, I do have nice term colours here.)
< 1393025016 583763 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chaiomanot_: were you already `relcomed? I kinda disappeared from the channel lately.
< 1393025040 352516 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 times now :-P
< 1393025057 619083 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! :D
< 1393025065 556997 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of ppl here, how do you know i'm new?
< 1393025111 538131 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my Instincts, Gut Feelings, and Because I Decided So as thinking is too hard at this time of the day.
< 1393025125 611248 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.114.212 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393025147 866058 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1393025163 578164 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im surprised you guys dont just have hackego do it automatically 
< 1393025171 498624 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too logical.
< 1393025176 828439 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha
< 1393025197 95549 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too easy
< 1393025197 395381 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, a solution obviously exists, so solving the problem is trivial.
< 1393025212 740385 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly
< 1393025222 333567 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy part is know what you mean
< 1393025254 413240 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1393025626 723595 :nooodl!~nooodl@18.157-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg
< 1393025648 467140 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393025696 859531 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impellomatic. Sgello.
< 1393025704 766971 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle, Quinthellopia.
< 1393026159 835052 :MoALTz!~no@109.243.161.205 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1393026162 87928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393026594 727315 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan!
< 1393026605 395240 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tonight is a very welcommy night!)
< 1393026659 892636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :jóily napot
< 1393026757 700357 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1393027065 12912 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393027251 141251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : nyuszika7h@cadoth ~ % tmux -V <-- i take it is a bad sign that my tmux doesn't understand that option.
< 1393027270 806932 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily
< 1393027281 216559 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats on jockey
< 1393027287 245249 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pronounce that spanishly)
< 1393027297 232188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means i don't know what my version is, i guess
< 1393027364 185091 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it was noisy in the lunchroom today!
< 1393027374 235198 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i bet it was
< 1393027571 884576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://github.com/mame/radiation-hardened-quine <-- hmph, for realism it should work if any one character was _changed_
< 1393027611 677153 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: meanwhile in USA olympic news, ashley wagner is a total bitch. she skates really well and then bitches about the judging, making her country look bad by association. hope they don't let her back on the team.
< 1393027642 367610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but only by one ASCII bit, right? :)
< 1393027653 476680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :error correction memory exists, though.  i wonder if anyone's managed to make a "radiation-hardened" _cpu_ which works if any internal register bit is flipped
< 1393027673 340094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well that would probably be enough in most cases
< 1393027691 637479 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: sorry, can't hear you over the Glorious Awesomeness of our athletes :P
< 1393027719 519189 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hm. I can buy a distressingly furry gold dragon armour for 5620 gold pieces...)
< 1393027722 948101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose if you get enough radiation that you risk _two_ bits in one byte being changed, you're in deep shit anyhow.
< 1393027729 318160 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: meanwhile, our norwegian has not a thing to say about his country's ten gold medals (or more now?)
< 1393027736 288224 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393027753 1482 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :come back in, shikhout!
< 1393027761 104372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that it's sort of logical that a particle might effect more than one bit in a region of a chip, maybe?
< 1393027762 744691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that sounds like a fun challenge
< 1393027854 657575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i don't want to brag you know.  i read in the paper that bjørgen was close to getting the record for most medals for a woman (and i might already get it anyhow because the current holder was accused of doping)
< 1393027889 593361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also i don't really follow the games fanatically, i just get what it says in the paper)
< 1393027900 45017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*some of
< 1393027923 889076 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1393027924 87250 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1393027985 709662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: in the beginning us norwegians were mostly shocked about not being able to get the skis properly prepared...
< 1393027998 893018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i understand that has improved as the weather cooled
< 1393028034 839220 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it is kind of unfair to ask people used to skiing on perfect snow to learn to water ski on the fly
< 1393028044 696513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you'd think
< 1393028129 518956 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1393028198 170229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also *-i  how did that get there
< 1393028217 189616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't getting any olympic medals
< 1393028344 485933 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1393028399 202310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (3987**12 + 4365**12, 4472**12)
< 1393028401 862221 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : (6.397665634969862e43,6.397665634848672e43)
< 1393028425 201548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (3987^12 + 4365^12 - 4472^12)
< 1393028427 99614 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1211886809373872630985912112862690
< 1393028472 241382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's that "close enough to work on a calculator display" kind, i take.
< 1393028639 902819 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so when does this job of yours let you vacation. how much?
< 1393028836 442079 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, doesn't work with standard floating point
< 1393028840 431905 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: two weeks per year, starting the first year I work there.
< 1393028850 720416 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on you using the decimal floating point of calculators
< 1393028858 493028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : [...] rococoin [...] <-- i expect that one to by highly embellished
< 1393028872 451302 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :rocococococoin
< 1393028876 460755 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so you have to work a year before you get it or?
< 1393028896 93211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (3987^12 + 4365^12 == (4472^12::Float))
< 1393028897 578092 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : True
< 1393028913 268723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: depends whih standard hth
< 1393028916 940954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+c
< 1393028919 965568 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I suppose Float is imprecise enough
< 1393028924 569469 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Double definitely isn't
< 1393028935 28984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*be
< 1393028946 401173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT IS HAPPENING TO BY SMELLING
< 1393028956 186933 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I can vacate in 2014 :D
< 1393028987 27874 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: seems like you have a cold
< 1393028995 100993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the good news is he can vacate in 2014.  the bad news is his employer is muslim.
< 1393029007 325743 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yay! wanna vacation together? :P
< 1393029070 503128 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: my employer is muslim?
< 1393029082 193097 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: probably not before september.
< 1393029116 529247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yep, it's year 2014 after mohammed's (peace be upon him!) move to medina hth
< 1393029147 339510 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: aaaaah (← I understand.) AAAAAAAAAAAAH! (← I'll probably be dead by then.)
< 1393029173 141108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's ok you can get a vacation before if you go on hajj
< 1393029303 628400 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but quintopia'll have to hajj with me!
< 1393029331 470461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see any added problem with that
< 1393029809 757727 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION 's karmic-roguelike sense is tingling.
< 1393029825 293224 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that run I'm doing is going too well...
< 1393029839 538098 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I feel weird. things are going my way at DCSS.
< 1393029863 281784 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1393030062 174450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1393030082 540774 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393030468 60577 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393030470 746012 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: sounds good. where should we go
< 1393030524 37203 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: mecca first, then jakarta.
< 1393030537 620933 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: let's skip mecca.
< 1393030551 817436 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: my music program thing is now in stereo :D
< 1393030650 281471 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh?
< 1393030694 9718 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1393031519 187837 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you didn't see it?
< 1393031526 700392 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you have a pythonic linux yes?
< 1393031775 108408 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have a vague idea that cpu registers are "often" ECC
< 1393031832 186835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure, but I think radiation etc. is much less likely to flip SRAM than DRAM
< 1393031913 917949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a SRAM cell is like two amplifiers feeding back into each other
< 1393031971 563669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a DRAM cell is just a capacitor + transistor
< 1393032095 914860 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I am both a penguin and snake fanboy.
< 1393032131 507338 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: then try it out! http://sprunge.us/QMMG
< 1393032192 390765 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of comments, good code
< 1393032219 292234 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm.
< 1393032326 570229 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I apparently have a marked absence of /dev/dsp.
< 1393032393 889939 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you need to alsa oss something something?
< 1393032437 211352 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my current machine is asymptotically converging towards zzo-status.
< 1393032444 55897 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meaning: weird stuff happens.)
< 1393032546 250539 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I'm compiling oss.
< 1393032566 800003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also pipe into 'play' with the appropriate parameters
< 1393032639 448358 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there was another guy who didn't have that. he was able just to install one package and it worked
< 1393032675 353482 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I miss compiling random stuff! at my new job we're using windows machines! it feels weird and dirty!
< 1393032682 263769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you could write chr(int(samp/256)%256)+chr(int(samp%256))  as  struct.pack('bin/print_args_or_input && chmod 755 bin/print_args_or_input
< 1393035948 694725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/r13
< 1393035950 96931 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M
< 1393035951 15694 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1393035970 222257 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '%s\n' 'print_args_or_input "$@" | tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M' >bin/rot13
< 1393035971 745869 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1393035975 464956 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 chaf
< 1393035976 152402 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :puns
< 1393035980 598147 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo chaf | rot134
< 1393035981 380678 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: rot134: command not found
< 1393035982 746593 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo chaf | rot13
< 1393035983 471405 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :puns
< 1393036001 103759 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1393036002 122916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess this makes r13 redundant.
< 1393036037 838247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rot13
< 1393036038 427608 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print_args_or_input "$@" | tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M
< 1393036052 306933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1393036078 590289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep 13 bin/*
< 1393036079 227355 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: bin/cat: No such file or directory \ Binary file bin/emmental matches \ Binary file bin/macro matches \ Binary file bin/mov matches \ Binary file bin/node matches \ Binary file bin/nooodl: matches \ bin/r13elcome:relcome "$@" | r13 \ bin/rainwords:import random; w=[l.split() for l in open("/dev/stdin").read().split("\n")]; r=[4,7,8,9,2,6,13];
< 1393036090 99333 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime oerjan
< 1393036090 537694 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for oerjan is Sat Feb 22 03:28:10 2014
< 1393036132 190398 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I thought. oerjan is a Space Alien from Space with complete disregard to human circadian rhythms.
< 1393036141 242837 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime ion
< 1393036143 866061 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for ion is Sat, 22 Feb 2014 04:29:01 +0200
< 1393036168 154451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -I 13 bin/*
< 1393036168 924390 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: bin/cat: No such file or directory \ bin/r13elcome:relcome "$@" | r13 \ bin/rainwords:import random; w=[l.split() for l in open("/dev/stdin").read().split("\n")]; r=[4,7,8,9,2,6,13]; print "\n".join((lambda s: " ".join(chr(3) + "%02d"%r[(i+s)%len(r)] + l[i] for i in range(len(l))))(random.randrange(0, len(r))) for l in w) \ bin/word:         
< 1393036175 264338 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l bin/cat
< 1393036175 984991 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 5000 12 Feb 17 03:23 bin/cat -> /usr/bin/cat
< 1393036178 838719 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ion is one of oerjan's Ectoplasmic Puppet Manifestations.
< 1393036267 686803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -I r13 bin/*
< 1393036268 321188 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: bin/cat: No such file or directory \ bin/r13elcome:relcome "$@" | r13
< 1393036290 907007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/r13/rot13/' bin/r13elcome; rm bin/r13
< 1393036292 500346 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1393036301 274388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ion 
< 1393036302 155963 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13ion: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.)
< 1393036303 906881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooops
< 1393036308 62774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`r13elcome ion 
< 1393036309 9844 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :04vba: 07Jrypbzr 08gb 09gur 02vagreangvbany 06uho 13sbe 04rfbgrevp 07cebtenzzvat 08ynathntr 09qrfvta 02naq 06qrcyblzrag! 13Sbe 04zber 07vasbezngvba, 08purpx 09bhg 02bhe 06jvxv: 13. 04(Sbe 07gur 08bgure 09xvaq 02bs 06rfbgrevpn, 13gel 04#rfbgrevp 07ba 08vep.qny.arg.)
< 1393036364 148326 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -I '\$[*@]' bin/*
< 1393036364 851909 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: bin/cat: No such file or directory \ bin/^.^:cat $@ \ bin/¿:? "$@" | rev | tac \ bin/؟:? "$@" | rev \ bin/ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ:WELCOME "$@" | perl -CS -Mutf8 -pwe 'y/!-~/！-～/; y/ /　/' \ bin/aaaaaaaaa:echo "$@" | tr A-Za-z0-9 [A*26][a*26][4*10] \ bin/as86:as="$1"; shift; echo ".intel_syntax noprefix; $as" | gcc "$@" -c -x assembler /d
< 1393036417 746614 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -EI '(echo|printf).{,10}\$[*@]' bin/*
< 1393036418 378619 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: bin/cat: No such file or directory \ bin/aaaaaaaaa:echo "$@" | tr A-Za-z0-9 [A*26][a*26][4*10] \ bin/complain:echo "$@" >> complaints; echo Complaint filed. Thank you. \ bin/instalist:echo $@ \ bin/ord:echo "$@" | perl -C7 -pe 'chomp; $_ = join(" ", map { ord } split //, $_);' \ bin/ordu:echo "$@" | perl -C7 -pe 'chomp; $_ = join(" ", map { s
< 1393036419 759135 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393036439 237048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you didn't already know this?
< 1393036536 857756 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sane, therefore I didn't.
< 1393036541 155843 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'test echo "$@" echo "$*" echo $@ test' | sed -re 's/echo ("?)\$[@*]\1 /print_args_or_input "$@" /'
< 1393036541 788173 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test print_args_or_input "$@" echo "$*" echo $@ test
< 1393036547 111949 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'test echo "$@" echo "$*" echo $@ test' | sed -re 's/echo ("?)\$[@*]\1 /print_args_or_input "$@" /g'
< 1393036547 713779 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test print_args_or_input "$@" print_args_or_input "$@" print_args_or_input "$@" test
< 1393036636 636984 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i -re 's/echo ("?)\$[@*]\1 /print_args_or_input "$@" /g' "bin/^.^" bin/aaaaaaaaa; cat "bin/^.^" bin/aaaaaaaaa
< 1393036638 390682 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/sh \ cat $@ \ #!/bin/sh \ print_args_or_input "$@" | tr A-Za-z0-9 [A*26][a*26][4*10]
< 1393036686 231174 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i -re 's/echo ("?)\$[@*]\1 /print_args_or_input "$@" /g' bin/complain bin/ord bin/ordu
< 1393036687 672757 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1393036703 746020 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/instalist
< 1393036704 285122 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo $@
< 1393036740 256793 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/instalist; ln -s print_args_or_input bin/instalist
< 1393036741 935731 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1393036746 56003 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`instalist foo bar
< 1393036746 640083 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo bar
< 1393036777 73823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep instalist bin/*
< 1393036777 866266 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: bin/cat: No such file or directory
< 1393036784 527448 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -EI '(echo|printf) ("?)\$[*@]\1' bin/*
< 1393036785 185247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: bin/cat: No such file or directory
< 1393036796 389773 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -EI '(echo|printf) ("?)\$[*@]\2' bin/*
< 1393036797 26837 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: bin/cat: No such file or directory \ bin/shmify:echo "$@" | sed -e 's/^\([^aeiou]*\)\(.*\)$/\1\2 shm\2/' \ bin/unhex:echo "$@" | xxd -r -p
< 1393036828 747249 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i -re 's/echo ("?)\$[@*]\1 /print_args_or_input "$@" /g' bin/shmify bin/unhex; cat bin/shmify bin/unhex
< 1393036830 140152 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/bash \ print_args_or_input "$@" | sed -e 's/^\([^aeiou]*\)\(.*\)$/\1\2 shm\2/' \ print_args_or_input "$@" | xxd -r -p
< 1393036843 323529 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -EI '(echo|printf) ("?)\$[*@]\2' bin/*
< 1393036843 997628 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: bin/cat: No such file or directory
< 1393036852 214242 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem!
< 1393036869 55234 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l /usr/bin/cat
< 1393036869 798023 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /usr/bin/cat: No such file or directory
< 1393036887 358300 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/cat
< 1393036888 845310 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1393036893 273736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1393036897 136250 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/shmify
< 1393036897 854556 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/bash \ print_args_or_input "$@" | sed -e 's/^\([^aeiou]*\)\(.*\)$/\1\2 shm\2/'
< 1393036937 953799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1393036939 352739 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1393036943 158528 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1393036949 787391 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -lL bin/cat
< 1393036950 626886 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information.
< 1393036955 917942 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -lL bin/cat
< 1393036956 643308 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/cat: No such file or directory
< 1393036961 561204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn
< 1393036963 87994 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l bin/cat
< 1393036963 786568 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 5000 12 Feb 22 02:42 bin/cat -> /usr/bin/cat
< 1393036970 1725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: i was trying to find the file history
< 1393036984 605330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apparently it's now gone.
< 1393036995 173328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait there it is
< 1393037005 133598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1393037005 689231 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1393037047 287260 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CHICKEN FROM THE EARTH
< 1393037049 105856 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1393037049 985666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see it was freefull doing a rather silly vandalism evasion
< 1393037123 885376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what
< 1393037153 421658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/cat
< 1393037154 36111 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/cat: No such file or directory
< 1393037159 625621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/cat
< 1393037160 278797 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/cat: No such file or directory
< 1393037187 957604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: now the repository browser is missing a change again
< 1393037240 9639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Gregor i did two consecutive `reverts and only the first shows up in the repository browser
< 1393037240 241863 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1393037242 55738 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where’s the repository browser?
< 1393037279 669936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
< 1393037292 853679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see also `help)
< 1393037324 777128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hi >test
< 1393037326 315346 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1393037331 957914 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankes
< 1393037427 845116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/cat
< 1393037428 549255 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/cat
< 1393037435 880526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there it happened
< 1393037439 293368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/cat
< 1393037439 979871 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/cat: No such file or directory
< 1393037446 121362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l bin/cat
< 1393037446 865170 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information.
< 1393037451 585040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l bin/cat
< 1393037452 311816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 5000 12 Feb 22 02:48 bin/cat -> /usr/bin/cat
< 1393037469 172778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/cat; echo nope >bin/cat
< 1393037470 800476 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1393037475 29074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/cat
< 1393037476 647415 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1393037491 194207 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat complaints
< 1393037491 776364 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1393037501 184783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l complaints
< 1393037501 862134 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 5000 9 Feb 17 03:23 complaints -> /dev/null
< 1393037552 45483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Gregor oh hm it was involving a symbolic link again.  "fixed" it by doing some other change, then turning it into a normal file, then deleting it normally.
< 1393037552 279906 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1393037581 788565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the repository really doesn't handle symbolic links well.
< 1393037591 494645 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why?
< 1393037765 293744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am guessing there's some code that assumes they don't exist, so does a test the wrong way and confuses being a symbolic link with not existing.
< 1393037776 774175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it only happens in some cases.
< 1393037832 801665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your first rm bin/cat worked, as did my revert of it, but the revert of that only changed the actual file, not the repository version.
< 1393037844 68517 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1393037865 969796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when i did another change it was copied back somehow.
< 1393037890 853857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but turning it into a "normal" file makes things work again.
< 1393037916 245593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the first time this kind of thing happens.
< 1393038959 214270 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1393038990 737204 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393039145 26133 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393040512 831189 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393041384 857166 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did menus and joystick on the original Amiga and Macintosh computers work?
< 1393042344 396309 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what joystick?
< 1393042383 430369 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is zzo38 a bot?
< 1393042422 473526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.
< 1393042741 932162 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is zzo38 a troll?
< 1393042794 253322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, zzo38 is an old an esteemed regular of this channel, who may however be rather excentric.
< 1393042797 285117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and
< 1393042808 993038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope this clears it up.
< 1393042854 873213 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool.  then i should prob apologize for some of my rude answers.. it just always feels like i'm being trolled
< 1393042869 430701 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :amiga and mac primarily worked with mouse, not joystick
< 1393042916 756873 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1393043115 46480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it worked with mouse, not joystick
< 1393043124 573932 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But do they support a joystick at all?
< 1393043236 118497 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think amiga supported a joystick for the workbench gui.  you could use joysticks with games
< 1393043283 607050 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ploscompbiol.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pcbi.1003456 finally someone figures out a practical use for Quake
< 1393043285 718888 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=68707 <- said you could but it wouldnt workw ell
< 1393043286 715082 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is what I thought, but how do those joysticks work?
< 1393043340 455823 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc amiga accepted standard atari joysticks, 9 pin d-connector, which had one pin for up,down,left,right and fire, and it would hook up those pins to vcc or gnd as you moved the joystick?
< 1393043356 682079 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thikn the mouse worked the same way except it would click many times in the directions it was travelling
< 1393043459 323065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did joystick work on Commodore 64, Macintosh, Apple II, etc?
< 1393043508 295538 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/1435/joyportsro8.jpg
< 1393043522 893190 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c64 and atari and amiga had the same joystick connector port
< 1393043535 881213 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know about appleII or mac
< 1393043581 828307 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know also how PC joysticks work, which used discharge times, I think
< 1393043594 38432 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.epanorama.net/documents/joystick/atari_stick.gif
< 1393043626 509711 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some joysticks use two potentiometers, one for x axis, one for y axis.    one way to measure the potentiometer is to charge it with an RC circuit and see how long it takes to discharge
< 1393043664 338824 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :atari and c64 also supported reading pots on the joystick port.. i havent heard of people using it for a joystick, but people used it for the "paddle controllers" used by pong and driving games
< 1393043698 662065 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.waitingforfriday.com/images/thumb/6/61/Commodore_Paddles.png/300px-Commodore_Paddles.png
< 1393043751 358598 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.c64-wiki.com/index.php/Paddle
< 1393043787 235094 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"analog joysticks" are just like two paddles used together as one joystick
< 1393043926 866676 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arduino.cc/en/uploads/Tutorial/joy_pic_480.jpg
< 1393044251 514983 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Z-machine documentation includes more extension table words, such as MSETBL, MSEDIR, MSEINV, MSEVRB, MSEWRD, BUTTON, JOYSTICK, BSTAT, JSTAT. The first five are for menus, BUTTON is for button events, JOYSTICK for joystick events, and BSTAT and JSTAT store the state of the buttons and joystick.
< 1393044277 915039 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am trying to figure out how this was supposed to work. I believe Infocom probably had no details in mind when they wrote this down, actually.
< 1393044367 99353 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(the following words are defined but no XZIP implements them)
< 1393044371 372910 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh interesting
< 1393044394 566000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and not only did they not implement them, but they didn't document them, either.
< 1393044406 428669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they never used them.
< 1393044561 64778 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than these things, there are two remaining unknown things: One is more details about their MIDI files (I believe command 0xFF is a delay, but cannot figure out the units and have no evidence other than the files themselves), and which computers used which variant of Font 3.
< 1393044668 849090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DECSystem-20 interpreter used VT100 character graphics if used with a VT100 terminal, or custom graphics that match either the PC or Amiga (I don't know which) if you have a VT220 terminal. There was no way to check this feature within the Z-code program other than asking the user, as far as I know.
< 1393044704 928593 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe the interpreter version identifier byte could indicate this, but even if it did, Infocom did not use this.)
< 1393044809 147677 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1393044826 735751 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393045420 343107 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1393045454 768044 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393045708 997809 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1393046847 207302 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: omg happy birthday
< 1393046920 828444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know kmc and happy birthday have absolutely no letters in common
< 1393047031 693160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i am sorry but my attempts to wish you a chimæric happy birthday have been thwarted.  in two languages.
< 1393047037 879188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I can see it
< 1393047057 236773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm
< 1393047066 971983 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what... does that mean
< 1393047075 972615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gratulerer kmced dagen
< 1393047093 440818 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1393047107 617912 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy kmc day
< 1393047110 738485 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or night
< 1393047135 193318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he does seem a little silent
< 1393047256 543135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Once one goes down that road, one’s on a very slippery slope. Perhaps that’s why the kind of attitude you elucidated there, Jeremy, is one of the greatest enablers of evil in the history of our species."
< 1393047270 816622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone is on a slippery slope to godwin
< 1393047305 228283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this was in a quantum computing discussion.
< 1393047345 899341 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we all know hitler was emotionally damaged by the negative reception to his quantum annealing company
< 1393047378 403924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a hunch Bike may have read the same thread.
< 1393047391 421243 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :map chr $ zipWith (ord x ^ ord y) "KMC" "day"
< 1393047394 686162 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map chr $ zipWith (ord x ^ ord y) "KMC" "day"
< 1393047396 35266 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Types.Char
< 1393047396 237135 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                               -> GHC.Types.Char -> GHC.Types.Int'
< 1393047396 237309 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :             with actual type `GHC.Types.Int'Couldn't match expected type `GH...
< 1393047396 237402 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :             with actual type `Debug.SimpleReflect.Expr.Expr'Couldn't match e...
< 1393047396 237490 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :             with actual type `Debug.SimpleReflect.Expr.Expr'
< 1393047409 432051 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map chr $ zipWith (\x y -> ord x ^ ord y) "KMC" "day"
< 1393047410 567382 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*Exception: Prelude.chr: bad argument: 1839101630706465969
< 1393047411 812038 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but it's pretty easy to guess if you're reading about quantum computing it's aaronson, and if it's aaronson it's d-wave
< 1393047430 378363 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically sherlock holmes and Jesus in one right here
< 1393047452 165930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can't argue against that
< 1393047475 99572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map chr $ zipWith (\x y -> ord x `xor` ord y) "KMC" "day"
< 1393047476 228607 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/,:"
< 1393047479 112239 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that
< 1393047495 199703 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good cos i'd have fucked you up like a fig tree
< 1393047617 459790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith (xor `ala` chr) "KMC" "day" -- wonder if this was the function...
< 1393047619 74329 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `GHC.Types.Int'
< 1393047619 270817 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :               with `(GHC.Types.Char -> c0)
< 1393047619 270963 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                     -> (GHC.Types.Char -> c0) -> GHC.Types.Char -> c0'
< 1393047619 271050 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: ((GHC.Types.Char -> c0)
< 1393047619 271138 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                 -> (GHC.Types.Char -> c0) -> GHC.Types.Char -> c0)
< 1393047624 699734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ala
< 1393047625 964165 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrapped s s a a => (s -> a) -> ((s -> a) -> e -> a) -> e -> s
< 1393047846 159664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's not so easy to use with a binary function.
< 1393047914 125921 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map chr $ zipWith (xor `on` ord) "KMC" "day"
< 1393047915 192798 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/,:"
< 1393047926 634248 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393047937 657092 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some fancy composition of chr with (xor `on` ord) ?
< 1393047955 656205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith (chr .: xor `on` ord) "KMC" "day"
< 1393047956 722792 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `.:'
< 1393047956 925451 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these:
< 1393047956 925602 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   `.' (imported from Data.Function),
< 1393047956 925691 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   `C..' (imported from Control.Category),
< 1393047956 925777 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   `.>' (imported from Control.Lens)
< 1393047966 871681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :COULD HAVE BEEN
< 1393048006 523961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably has the wrong precedence anyway.
< 1393048009 259684 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?type xor
< 1393048010 331624 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bits a => a -> a -> a
< 1393048015 605218 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why chars nto Bits?
< 1393048041 824375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well Chars are unicode
< 1393048045 915550 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well how else would you do xor if there was not bitwise representation to use
< 1393048048 376723 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of its limit.
< 1393048057 328221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not closed under the operations.
< 1393048060 436775 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its limit is stupid, nonetheless, but it is there.
< 1393048072 541783 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they just used something liek 24-bits then it would work.
< 1393048111 788893 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what is the highest-degree poly-time algorithm ever used to solve a real problem? do you know?
< 1393048123 978179 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The I/O could convert characters outside of Unicode range into a Unicode replacement character, if needed; but you can use 24-bits in UTF-8)
< 1393048125 382396 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the highest i know of is the sextic algorithm for PRIMES
< 1393048154 43995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the one that dropped into my mind too
< 1393048171 128257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may not be well-educated on this issue.
< 1393048177 605378 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1393048243 668144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also does anyone use that for "real" given that the randomized tests are faster, even if you want a certificate?
< 1393048277 895319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iirc)
< 1393048283 537761 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?hoogle (a -> b) -> (b -> a) -> (a -> a -> a) -> (b -> b -> b)
< 1393048284 571710 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found
< 1393048330 758205 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :chemistry is really weird. i'm looking at an explicit wavefunction. and then there's a footnote indicating that exp x means e^x.
< 1393048379 633454 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: now you wont wonder what e, x and p are and why they're being multiplied!
< 1393048734 893708 :nooodl!~nooodl@18.157-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393049475 595618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let onIso f i x y = review i f (view i x) (view i y)
< 1393049476 960925 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:152:34:
< 1393049477 146938 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Couldn't match type `Control.Lens.Internal.Review.Reviewed
< 1393049477 147122 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                            a0 (Identity b0)'
< 1393049477 147211 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                   with `a1 -> Accessor a1 a1'
< 1393049477 147301 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Expected type: Getting a1 s1 a1
< 1393049507 691588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let onIso f i x y = view (re i) f (view i x) (view i y)
< 1393049509 722750 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:152:37:
< 1393049509 921527 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Couldn't match type `Control.Lens.Internal.Review.Reviewed
< 1393049509 921690 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                            a0 (Identity s0)'
< 1393049509 921778 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                   with `a1 -> Accessor a1 a1'
< 1393049509 921866 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Expected type: Getting a1 s2 a1
< 1393049553 549959 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1393049567 136548 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393049587 472075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the syntax is correct, i probably need rank-N types
< 1393049658 209246 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?hoogle (a -> b) -> (c -> d) -> (a -> a -> c) -> (b -> b -> d)
< 1393049659 264250 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found
< 1393049667 632589 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesnt have to be ISO
< 1393049704 923428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let onIso :: (a -> a -> a) -> (Iso' b a) -> (b -> b -> b); onIso f i x y = view (re i) f (view i x) (view i y)
< 1393049706 401163 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:154:17:
< 1393049706 590299 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Couldn't match type `a' with `a -> a -> a'
< 1393049706 590449 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :       `a' is a rigid type variable bound by
< 1393049706 590537 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :           the type signature for
< 1393049706 590626 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :             onIso :: (a -> a -> a) -> Iso' b a -> b -> b -> b
< 1393049720 471934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let onIso :: (a -> a -> a) -> (Iso' a b) -> (b -> b -> b); onIso f i x y = view (re i) f (view i x) (view i y)
< 1393049721 871291 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:154:17:
< 1393049722 68532 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Couldn't match type `b'
< 1393049722 68684 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                   with `(b -> b -> b) -> (b -> b -> b) -> b -> b -> b'
< 1393049722 68774 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :       `b' is a rigid type variable bound by
< 1393049722 68863 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :           the type signature for
< 1393049730 595537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wtf
< 1393049735 821130 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :woooooo yeah baby
< 1393049746 195128 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :take it all offfff
< 1393049824 492964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait duh
< 1393049831 587584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let onIso :: (a -> a -> a) -> (Iso' a b) -> (b -> b -> b); onIso f i x y = view (re i) $ f (view i x) (view i y)
< 1393049831 935653 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "utf8_unicode_ci" mean in MySQL?
< 1393049833 65535 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:154:17:
< 1393049833 254199 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Couldn't match type `a' with `b'
< 1393049833 254349 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :       `a' is a rigid type variable bound by
< 1393049833 254438 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :           the type signature for
< 1393049833 254526 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :             onIso :: (a -> a -> a) -> Iso' a b -> b -> b -> b
< 1393049846 851422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let onIso :: (a -> a -> a) -> (Iso' b a) -> (b -> b -> b); onIso f i x y = view (re i) $ f (view i x) (view i y)
< 1393049849 154269 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1393049851 587517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew
< 1393049910 283418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith (onIso (re enum) xor) "KMC" "day"
< 1393049911 755069 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `GHC.Types.Int -> GHC.Types.Int'
< 1393049911 957302 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :               with `GHC.Types.Int'
< 1393049911 957455 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: (GHC.Types.Int -> GHC.Types.Int -> GHC.Types.Int)
< 1393049911 957543 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                -> (GHC.Types.Int -> GHC.Types.Int -> GHC.Types.Int)
< 1393049911 957632 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                -> GHC.Types.Int
< 1393049921 679558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh
< 1393049931 459315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t onIso enum
< 1393049932 865598 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Couldn't match type `Int' with `a0 -> a0'
< 1393049933 55373 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Expected type: (a0 -> a0 -> a0)
< 1393049933 55520 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                   -> (a0 -> a0 -> a0) -> a0 -> a0 -> a0
< 1393049943 835802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t onIso
< 1393049944 941112 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> a -> a) -> Iso' b a -> b -> b -> b
< 1393049949 564029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh
< 1393049970 412511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith (xor `onIso` re enum) "KMC" "day"
< 1393049971 684377 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (p ~ (->))
< 1393049971 884086 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (Data.Profunctor.Unsafe.Profunctor p,
< 1393049971 884236 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                   GHC.Base.Functor f)
< 1393049971 884333 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   bound by a type expected by the context:
< 1393049971 884419 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :              (Data.Profunctor.Unsafe.Profunctor p, GHC.Base.Functor f) =>
< 1393049972 77376 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :woooooooooooo
< 1393049995 228526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems not entirely improving
< 1393050009 444546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (xor `onIso` re enum) 'K' 'd'
< 1393050010 833109 :password2!~password@197.78.160.143 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393050011 212772 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (p ~ (->))
< 1393050011 401739 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (Data.Profunctor.Unsafe.Profunctor p,
< 1393050011 401893 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                   GHC.Base.Functor f)
< 1393050011 401981 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   bound by a type expected by the context:
< 1393050011 402102 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :              (Data.Profunctor.Unsafe.Profunctor p, GHC.Base.Functor f) =>
< 1393050031 988468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (xor `onIso` enum) 'K' 'd'
< 1393050033 242575 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `GHC.Types.Int' with `GHC.Types.Char'
< 1393050033 439211 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: p a0 (f a0) -> p GHC.Types.Char (f GHC.Types.Char)
< 1393050033 439360 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   Actual type: p a0 (f a0) -> p GHC.Types.Int (f GHC.Types.Int)
< 1393050049 248550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t re enum
< 1393050050 521936 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Enum b, Functor f, Contravariant f) => (Int -> f Int) -> b -> f b
< 1393050059 876773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t re
< 1393050060 667587 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Functor f, Contravariant f) => AReview s t a b -> (t -> f t) -> b -> f b
< 1393050094 308452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1393050105 273066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith (xor `onIso` from enum) "KMC" "day"
< 1393050108 202444 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/,:"
< 1393050111 16548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huzzah!
< 1393050136 440988 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the thing you did earlier with nothing but vanilla haskell, right
< 1393050156 248925 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out what it means; I do not want to implement it due to its complexity.
< 1393050180 416020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ಠ_ಠ
< 1393050180 989151 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      ¯|¯⌠
< 1393050181 185823 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       >\|
< 1393050232 931509 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably install a kannada font
< 1393050249 978066 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still got ¬_¬ though
< 1393050259 961204 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let boobs = (.).(.) in zipWith (chr `boobs` (xor `on` ord)) "KMC" "day"
< 1393050261 208813 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/,:"
< 1393050481 541899 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393050527 183574 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?let mapBinOp f g h = ((.).(.)) h (f `on` g)
< 1393050529 452530 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1393050547 647850 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith (mapBinOp xor ord chr) "KMC" "day"
< 1393050551 184429 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/,:"
< 1393050642 661478 :nooodl!~nooodl@18.157-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg
< 1393050776 560520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith (mapBinOp xor `withIso` enum) "KMC" "day"
< 1393050777 808600 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `GHC.Types.Int' with `GHC.Types.Char -> c0'
< 1393050777 997906 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: (a1 -> GHC.Types.Char -> a1)
< 1393050777 998093 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                -> (b0 -> t0) -> GHC.Types.Char -> GHC.Types.Char -> c0
< 1393050777 998186 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   Actual type: (a1 -> GHC.Types.Char -> a1)
< 1393050777 998277 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                -> GHC.Types.Int -> GHC.Types.Char -> GHC.Types.IntCouldn't m...
< 1393050786 575792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith (mapBinOp xor `withIso` from enum) "KMC" "day"
< 1393050787 961733 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `a0 -> b0'
< 1393050788 165296 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :               with `Control.Lens.Internal.Iso.Exchange
< 1393050788 165478 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                       (GHC.Types.Char -> GHC.Types.Int)
< 1393050788 165569 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                       GHC.Types.Char
< 1393050788 165662 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                       (GHC.Types.Char -> GHC.Types.Int)
< 1393050792 911832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ff
< 1393050869 311448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith (withIso enum $ mapBinOp xor) "KMC" "day"
< 1393050870 528437 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `GHC.Types.Char' with `GHC.Types.Int'
< 1393050870 715650 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: [GHC.Types.Int]
< 1393050870 715793 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   Actual type: [GHC.Types.Char]Couldn't match type `GHC.Types.Char' with `GH...
< 1393050870 715881 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: [GHC.Types.Int]
< 1393050870 715970 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   Actual type: [GHC.Types.Char]
< 1393050879 435468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith (withIso (from enum) $ mapBinOp xor) "KMC" "day"
< 1393050883 714294 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "
< 1393050893 343689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O
< 1393050908 552521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t zipWith (withIso (from enum) $ mapBinOp xor) "KMC" "day"
< 1393050910 103635 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Char]
< 1393050925 251947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith (withIso (from enum) $ mapBinOp xor) "KMC" "day"
< 1393050928 325439 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/,:"
< 1393050933 375938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew
< 1393050959 104722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one day i may be able to remember which side of things is s t and which is a b)
< 1393050965 309471 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've been doing this for an hour now
< 1393050998 151932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, it's about time for some food
< 1393052295 696468 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.google.com/search?q=marquee+html
< 1393052304 893489 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Stolen from #cslounge )
< 1393052398 42550 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.google.com/#q=blink+html
< 1393052866 973446 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a chess problem where Bxa8# or Ba8# is the only solution?
< 1393052906 475909 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or one of the other three corners)
< 1393053407 913742 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the computational class of the "B-tapemark" esolang?
< 1393053484 341116 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :any class you want it to be, baby
< 1393053533 32992 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but then I would have to change it...I mean, how it is, what class it is the way it is, rather than what it would be otherwise.
< 1393053664 839963 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"any class you want it to be, baby" is not a proper excuse.
< 1393053740 756115 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1393053894 684759 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1393053900 968418 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is Turing complete, would it be with some symbols removed, and if so, which ones?
< 1393053985 346553 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393054173 626426 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The conditions always only switch the program grid with the data grid when the condition is true.
< 1393055273 596701 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the only pattern that uses 0 x could just as easily be written 4242424240n140n1. the 0x is inessential, afaict.
< 1393055417 48435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um that doesn't do the same thing at all.
< 1393055641 27258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that pattern doesn't work the way you think, and your version breaks horribly.
< 1393055667 846854 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went to sleep and then i came back to say i got it wrong
< 1393055687 417037 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not wrong in principle
< 1393055698 693046 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that honor is taken by me.
< 1393055698 877997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe but it will make code longer.
< 1393055721 568854 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity! :P
< 1393055983 136861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!python -c 'print xrange(-1)'
< 1393055985 646703 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :File "", line 1 \     -c 'print xrange(-1)' \                         ^ \ SyntaxError: invalid syntax
< 1393055999 200281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'print xrange(-1)'
< 1393055999 880925 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xrange(0)
< 1393056022 816422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you could make IO trigger on a negative _first_ number.
< 1393056081 104802 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but there's so many nice properties i get by having it be zero. some of the examples i wrote use sneaky tricks.
< 1393056109 192613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah
< 1393056149 743341 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1393056307 227176 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just have the interpreter filter 0x7F. no one needs to print a del character :P
< 1393056323 36803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever heard of binary files
< 1393056380 124471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i don't see an obvious way to fix the 424242420xn10xn1 pattern.
< 1393056437 734073 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393056575 301689 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix it? no just make another that accomplishes the same :P
< 1393056584 480668 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bed time
< 1393056585 773020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's what i mean.
< 1393056619 113271 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1393056704 807341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: anyway i am objecting to restricting the form of pure ResPlicate programs on the chance that they _might_ run with IO enabled.
< 1393056710 749600 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1393057278 711008 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to explicitly enable IO in the current interpreter. it is definitely an extension and not a core feature of the language. programs written in core have undefined behavior when run with the extension
< 1393057303 227367 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also doesn't something like 4242424222n122n1n1 work?
< 1393057338 527145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it does
< 1393057354 719203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU WIN THIS TIME
< 1393057359 55891 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay really bedtime now
< 1393057396 807852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, 21, not 22.
< 1393057627 3464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1393058934 205964 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-161-205.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393059156 879942 :password2!~password@197.78.160.143 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1393059275 669032 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393061218 499585 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393061636 789818 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393061763 147751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1393062681 698671 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393063425 217006 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1393063860 879990 :password2!~password@197.78.170.191 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393064588 859057 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1393066174 952295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does my root window have a calculator icon? http://sprunge.us/dVAU
< 1393066313 823900 :JZTech101!~JZTech101@botters/jztech101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1393066406 803915 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-161-205.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393066487 696346 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-161-205.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1393066540 246903 :JZTech101!~JZTech101@botters/jztech101 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393066560 733203 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393066633 834132 :password2!~password@197.78.170.191 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1393067118 308452 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393068941 774193 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the root window is 0 maybe a buggy calculator accidentally set the icon for null instead of itself?
< 1393068960 922756 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got _NET_WM_ICON:  not found.
< 1393069407 242083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did try out kcalc over two-hop X forwarding over SSH, because someone on another channel asked a question about kcalc, and I only had that installed at work.
< 1393070961 364203 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393071029 706375 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't believe I'm actually considering learning vim
< 1393071081 761811 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: do it!
< 1393071128 279860 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst case, you don't like it and use something else
< 1393071150 170957 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1393071150 426915 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1393071704 745728 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393071864 415198 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.114.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anyone is in Vienna, there's a Core War event at Metalab at 4pm this afternoon https://metalab.at
< 1393072101 759310 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1393072140 100226 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393072942 755722 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393073570 946848 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We call this CTRL-G" what, not C-g or something just as bizarre? Blasphemy!
< 1393073596 812777 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's ctrl minus g
< 1393073606 491443 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are supposed to remove the g key
< 1393073655 126124 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a spotty decision to remove the G.
< 1393073744 884524 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does less use vim-like commands?
< 1393073750 199086 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would make doing this well worth it
< 1393073777 728678 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, similar (not the same though)
< 1393073823 488651 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :since ctrl-g normally means ctrl plus g, ctrl+g should mean ctrl minus g
< 1393073833 163799 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393073927 455072 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so G is electron-like, and is a negatively charged letter. makes sense.
< 1393074083 971847 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-216.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393074131 17514 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-216.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host
< 1393074131 202544 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1393081830 937588 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :08LoRdToLsToI: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02irc.dal.net.)
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< 1393084410 210509 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did MS Paint take so long to have anti aliasing capabilities
< 1393084420 294716 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Wu line algorithm is from like 92
< 1393084427 732526 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd think by Windows 95 it would be there
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< 1393085189 881354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: because for most of what people seriously use Paint for, anti-aliasing is actively harmful
< 1393085203 951247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its main use is things like limited color depth icons
< 1393085224 361996 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but why not the *possibility* of it
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< 1393085790 650776 :SgeoWeb!44c2df0c@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm.
< 1393085798 431139 :SgeoWeb!44c2df0c@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Freenode didn't break and die, it's just me?
< 1393085813 163772 :SgeoWeb!44c2df0c@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 'J, am I alive?'
< 1393085813 362948 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoWeb: J, am I alive?
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< 1393086115 832876 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: if Paint had AA, consequences would never be the same.
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< 1393086247 925036 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily : http://www.elftor.com/elftor.php?number=112
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< 1393086298 797799 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: indeed.
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< 1393086353 534237 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: also, http://unomoralez.com/ (some quite NSFW)
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< 1393095884 957208 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal NICK :Vorpal
< 1393095911 845130 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, so I looked at cfunge again, and now I am thinking, "Did I really write that sort of code a couple of years ago?"
< 1393095927 585549 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is rather hard to follow in places
< 1393096079 807996 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1393096191 852255 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393096195 569140 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai pplz
< 1393096263 175581 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393096306 209841 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to see my newest calculator game?
< 1393096358 978679 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : What is that game?
< 1393096372 398132 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flappy Bird...
< 1393096428 848169 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Describe how the game is working, and what model of calculator it is for.
< 1393096453 66889 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :TI-83+, TI-84+, TI-83+SE, or TI-84+SE.
< 1393096473 917948 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :And here is a screenie of it running on an 84+: http://img.ourl.ca/JWinslowFlappyBirdv1rev4.gif
< 1393096522 954148 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it look?
< 1393096691 687160 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is OK
< 1393096766 495775 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks.
< 1393096825 647151 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a background isn't needed, but is OK otherwise
< 1393096852 952427 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it just looks good.
< 1393096882 72157 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, why the heck not?
< 1393096969 27179 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no point removing it; I just meant it isn't really necessary.
< 1393097033 266404 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I like eyecandy.
< 1393097061 552033 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't need parallax, either.
< 1393097096 697006 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, too bad, you can't get color graphics on those models of calculators. (And it would help, not only for some games, but also if you are plotting multiple data sets)
< 1393097147 46756 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, TI just released a TI-84+ Color Silver Edition a year ago. :p
< 1393097162 464783 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, hey, grayscale looks good, huh?
< 1393097180 559529 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, grayscale looks fine, but for some things it would be useful to have colors.
< 1393097215 682170 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah...
< 1393097236 547896 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :...they actually made a "Flappy Bird" for that color calculator already.
< 1393097245 316551 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :It requires DoorsCSE, though/
< 1393097301 987502 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is a screenie (just so you know, this was not made by me): http://www.cemetech.net/img/ss/001703.gif
< 1393097327 958988 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you are plotting a single function/dataset, it would help to have the axis a different color than the data. And then of course you can have color games, and various other colored things
< 1393097345 640750 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah.
< 1393097356 21025 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kinda slow for the TI-BASIC language, though.
< 1393097378 357383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I would think so; TI-BASIC is slow in general.
< 1393097449 103252 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only model I have is TI-92, although I do have an emulator for some other models.
< 1393097453 851199 :JWinslow23_!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393097461 338627 :JWinslow23_!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn keyboard.
< 1393097484 173092 :JWinslow23_!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1393097486 219248 :JWinslow23_!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait...
< 1393097491 287994 :JWinslow23_!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :...didn't I quit?
< 1393097500 933265 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't looks like it.
< 1393097547 772172 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your side disconnected but other one doesn't, you can try NS GHOST (if you have an account)
< 1393097613 857131 :JWinslow23!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1393097738 928024 :JWinslow23_!18a7ca50@gateway/web/freenode/session QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
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< 1393097875 661685 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393097900 978407 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Here is a screenie (just so you know, this was not made by me): http://www.cemetech.net/img/ss/001703.gif <-- terrible FPS
< 1393098130 620924 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-216.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393098163 455674 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-216.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host
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< 1393098292 415170 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah something good came out of the horrible chain-chess variant on chessbase, a reflection on what makes games hard for computers compared to humans. (http://en.chessbase.com/post/computer-resistant-chess-variants)
< 1393098343 643175 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393098350 628584 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393098356 489942 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are better games resistant to computers
< 1393098357 136599 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Dixit
< 1393098359 835533 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Calvinball
< 1393098384 678727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen it
< 1393098500 837015 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.114.212 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393098546 816148 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also mentioned tandem pawns chess, option chess, etc they are interesting variants, but so is Sirlin's Chess, which they didn't mention.
< 1393098638 691676 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though it differs by having hidden information.
< 1393098649 73144 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :STEALTH CHESS
< 1393098667 290681 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many other variants with hidden information too, such as Kriegspiel
< 1393098675 386600 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or my own "Invisible Kings Chess"
< 1393098751 204551 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1393098758 497788 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1393098758 682798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393098836 727127 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1393098899 429137 :augur!~augur@50.246.68.190 NICK :Guest1502
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< 1393098970 298869 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ejqsiivpyakrruca QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1393099047 119863 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: Dixit ultimately looks like a game of manipulation. I don't think that it'll be fun if played competetively. [For example, a couple could make up their own code for describing each of the cards.]
< 1393099088 599900 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is mostly a game for fun, yeah
< 1393099190 591114 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393099360 610206 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
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< 1393099421 727886 :Guest1502!~augur@50.246.68.190 NICK :augur_
< 1393099859 419331 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Just pushed some changes to cfunge. Some bug fixes on error handling paths, found using static analysis.
< 1393099864 329418 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably doesn't affect you
< 1393099892 92445 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also PERL fix if the PERL output contains embedded nul bytes
< 1393100088 633143 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393100090 580285 :ggherdov!sid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393100135 962582 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1393100212 966714 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Oh and I fixed a bug making it fail to compile with icc
< 1393100362 278709 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL
< 1393100382 195317 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles while the cuttle reboots ♪
< 1393100665 45312 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393100760 596504 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393100791 847957 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393101062 931265 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mumbles “will you connect you damn bot...”
< 1393101304 89356 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393101304 408394 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393101304 867153 :Guest80757!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393101310 609334 :LoRdToLsToI!filo3sofie@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-zxvucydekrajhksj QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393101626 87037 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of damn bots ... lambdabot, where art thou?
< 1393101656 347527 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393101768 432246 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :*.net *.split
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< 1393101776 352635 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393102316 827881 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1393102341 585284 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393102371 564167 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393102418 201131 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's trying ... but apparently has no luck finding an IRC server that will work. hmm.)
< 1393102435 649696 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393102435 834521 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393102925 962392 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393102956 794955 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bot
< 1393102961 974578 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1393102966 520694 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack
< 1393102972 9410 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1393102973 26365 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL
< 1393102973 467811 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 222000Z 22030G39KT 30SM FEW060 FEW080 FEW240 04/M06 A2964 RMK SC1AC1CI1 CI TR SLP039
< 1393102978 307925 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pats his bot
< 1393102999 313267 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs his :)
< 1393103130 248023 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393103145 561060 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want my coins back.
< 1393103172 682595 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no gregcoins
< 1393103211 212938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Okay. Indeed doesn't sound like it'd affect fungot much.
< 1393103220 509527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh.
< 1393103239 729709 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393103285 276455 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freenode and its flaky servers, again.
< 1393103311 940586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of {holmes,pratchett,barjavel}.freenode.net seem to be talking to me.
< 1393103352 401282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't connect to irc.freenode.net either but I am connected to card and that one works.
< 1393103356 248511 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393103376 325123 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :rajaniemi.freenode.net seems stable currently
< 1393103393 141034 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It's somewhat far away, though.
< 1393103403 317581 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :low bandwidth, who cares
< 1393103415 871000 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(read: I don't care)
< 1393103423 619444 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1393103427 860947 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah it was mostly stuff like "if malloc fails here, you will read an uninitialized value there"
< 1393103478 61276 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, but the latency!?
< 1393103502 831315 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:11:38 CTCP PING reply from int-e: 3.315 seconds
< 1393103519 892620 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fast ;)
< 1393103530 475232 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, also I like the RPi photo
< 1393103558 923467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you catch the bit where I was trying to measure the physical size of a single pixel in the macro setup? 
< 1393103561 746338 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bot
< 1393103561 931595 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1393103563 49299 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also odd; lambdabot is now using the same server and replies in less than 2 seconds)
< 1393103565 700237 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, nope?
< 1393103573 90518 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I just saw lambdabot messages
< 1393103602 290575 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, * Ping reply from irc.znc.in: 0.01 second(s)
< 1393103608 314236 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a second
< 1393103611 939581 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is my bouncer
< 1393103613 82475 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_-
< 1393103622 874553 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it using such a stupid name
< 1393103630 81383 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is running on my Rpi
< 1393103636 516832 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"in.ternal"?
< 1393103642 949917 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: If my ballpark calculations are right, one pixel in the source image (the ones I've posted have been scaled to 25%) corresponds to something like 1 µm. (Not that I've gotten exactly accurate-to-the-pixel images out of it.)
< 1393103661 306679 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bip uses "bip.bip.bip" as the host part of the prefix of messages it sends, IIRC.
< 1393103662 518261 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, would work better
< 1393103667 307980 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's kind of silly too.)
< 1393103692 645671 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ooh you should take a photo of the root of a hair or some such thing with that setup
< 1393103728 505750 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: to be fair, znc.in *is* under znc's developer's control
< 1393103735 265333 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, yes
< 1393103746 602801 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Ping reply from int-e: 0.54 second(s)
< 1393103748 134288 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bad
< 1393103768 119282 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why is my own client so slow in answering itself ...
< 1393103788 914956 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, try again, maybe it had to load the relevant code from disk or some such?
< 1393103801 47244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1393103807 34027 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried several times, the fastest was 2.648 seconds.
< 1393103811 747139 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1393103817 334992 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly.
< 1393103819 746032 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393103824 342766 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393103827 556521 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on
< 1393103838 110777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140218-ding.jpg -- that's approximately 5-6 mm wide, and the original image width was 5472 pixels.
< 1393103854 963575 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what is it of?
< 1393103870 253407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The dinged adapter ring I might've shown before, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140203-ding.jpg
< 1393103882 684975 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, cool
< 1393103901 92493 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Oh, and I also took this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140215-mystery.jpg
< 1393103910 745659 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm, microscope photography would be cool 
< 1393103916 966547 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, quite a mystery
< 1393103919 179648 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it
< 1393103929 705959 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, retro-reflector?
< 1393103944 605624 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Well, one of those things you hang in your clothes.
< 1393103953 745227 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, exactly, a retro-reflector
< 1393103971 407749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of an overly fancy title, but technically accurate, sure.
< 1393103978 394551 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, one of the flexible ones? Or one of the hard ones that you hang from a pocket?
< 1393103986 402726 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floppy.
< 1393103987 593323 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140218-ref.jpg  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140218-ref2.jpg  -- "regular-size images" with the phone.
< 1393103988 554328 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1393104009 428924 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah the hard ones tend to have much larger "unit" size
< 1393104014 289458 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you understand what I mean
< 1393104019 913394 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: so apparently ctcp replies are processed in an "idle queue", and perhaps my own command makes irssi think I'm busy doing stuff and delays the unimportant reply. That's the best explanation I have without looking at code.
< 1393104028 365664 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1393104048 885569 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Also, nice morran
< 1393104069 519388 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what is the less fancy name for retro reflectors in English?
< 1393104079 137881 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Swedish they are called "reflex"
< 1393104123 354898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... well, I don't know if they have one. The Finnish word (heijastin) just translates to "reflector", and you have to grok it means that kind of one from the context.
< 1393104130 940174 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right
< 1393104148 533507 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google finds me references to "pedestrian reflectors".
< 1393104158 872335 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm
< 1393104166 482515 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, That is mårran right?
< 1393104170 536146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "safety reflectors".
< 1393104178 403495 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :From mumin
< 1393104179 590472 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :stick one on the front of your car and it'll prevent all accidents
< 1393104185 503586 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what the English name of that character is
< 1393104186 452484 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pedestrians will just bounce off
< 1393104199 384903 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, :) Hi
< 1393104219 692049 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes. ("Mörkö" in Finnish, apparently "The Groke" in English.)
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< 1393104229 90860 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a terrible English name
< 1393104258 646075 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I believe it's derived from "growl", kind of like mårran from morra.
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< 1393104279 412048 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Be72GYUCYAAM7Vq.png:large
< 1393104308 440306 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, heh, that is pretty neat
< 1393104345 203942 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, they don't form English words though, do they?
< 1393104347 900981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what "`atts` bit(64) DEFAULT b'1000000000000000000000000000000000'," means in MySQL? That is less than 64 bits.
< 1393104348 727665 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Finnish name is the Finnish word for a bogeyman (spöke).
< 1393104350 664365 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a fucking clue
< 1393104365 151174 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, Can't see how that is possible with [CR]* (bottom left) for example
< 1393104369 690574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: They don't, no.
< 1393104399 744370 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRCRCRCR
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< 1393104477 182120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember if I filled out this one or some other one.
< 1393104521 560734 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, or RRRRRRRRRRR or RRRCCC or ...
< 1393104582 49202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's rather hard to make an English word for the R*D*M* either.
< 1393104590 378245 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's a car purring
< 1393104592 251070 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
< 1393104610 902026 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean cat?
< 1393104624 229920 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1393104691 913977 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm it is not really regular in the mathematical sense of regular expression/regular language
< 1393104709 510414 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Near the middle left there is a back reference :/
< 1393104716 859343 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's more Linux-type regular
< 1393104727 90523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a couple of backrefs elsewhere, too.
< 1393104729 763736 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :POSIX Extended or PCRE
< 1393104734 693367 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume
< 1393104795 662163 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there is a single unique solution, it seems to me quite a few of them are rather general. Like .*H.*H.*
< 1393104804 564215 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even .* in two places
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< 1393104935 720887 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fairly certain there are at least 3 valid alternatives for the upper left corner
< 1393104979 389056 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal : I guess the rest is decided by the othe rtwo directions
< 1393104990 378178 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There's three clues pertaining to each cell, though. I think that was originally from some MIT thing.
< 1393105007 428162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIT's Mystery Hunt thing, to be more accurate.
< 1393105020 469891 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm
< 1393105032 157815 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's the same one, anyway. They've been quite popular after that, there's http://regexcrossword.com/ and so on.
< 1393105034 301474 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really harder looking than a sudoku really
< 1393105045 794377 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, there is, and from what I can tell there are multiple viable options for the upper left corner
< 1393105050 187570 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just write in the possibilities and cross 'em out
< 1393105055 661640 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :N, E or I
< 1393105103 737388 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Except if the one down-right from it is required to be I, S or H, which would lock also the corner in place.
< 1393105126 129586 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yes, but looking at it, I don't think it is, 
< 1393105194 537829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Well, to me it seems like it must be either H or I, because of the [CHMNOR]*I[CHMNOR]* clue.
< 1393105197 863726 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it must be either N or E, I is not possible indeed
< 1393105204 65142 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1393105230 209999 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean second on second line must be H or I
< 1393105232 112724 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :right?
< 1393105233 366831 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Right.
< 1393105240 24421 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah
< 1393105280 344366 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :This might be fun to solve, Except for the back referencex
< 1393105282 838124 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :references*
< 1393105287 967892 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds annoying
< 1393105368 221433 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least there aren't any zero width assertions
< 1393105485 671109 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, actually the bottom row appears rather open in many places. It is either C or HH (except for the first cell). Second cell is C, but apart from that there is a lot of .* starting/ending the other two clues
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< 1393105517 239466 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, it has to add up to the right number of characters, but even then you have quite a bit of freedom there
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< 1393105540 943854 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last 3 are completely open from what I can tell
< 1393105543 114947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ".*" doesn't automatically mean the cell is free, if the rest of the line means it expands to zero characters.
< 1393105548 725661 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm true
< 1393105563 718505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though the .*(IN|SE|HI) and such are of course open.)
< 1393105628 333078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember whether I finished or not, but I got at least the majority of it filled with (unless I made a mistake) no ambiguities.
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< 1393105689 299335 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm okay
< 1393105754 285201 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The third cell of the bottom line seems like another C to me, because of the (HHX|[^HX])* clue on the top-right side.
< 1393105787 234335 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah, I didn't say all of them were open
< 1393105821 483868 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl
< 1393106006 458192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Well. For the four rightmost cells of the bottom row, the possibilities are CCCC, CCHH, CHHC, HHCC and HHHH. The ([^EMC]|EM)* clue from top-right rules out the three first, so it's really only open whether the two last are CC or HH. It could be that the choice between those two is enforced by the .*(.)(.)(.)(.)\4\3\2\1.* clue, if the only place where you can fit a 12344321 pattern is ...
< 1393106012 484949 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... the beginning, but that's bit too far to go right now. Besides, I wouldn't want to spoil it.
< 1393106535 740582 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm true
< 1393106711 168772 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Incidentally, we're going to be doing this kind of a round-trip http://goo.gl/maps/K90Ii at summertime.
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< 1393106767 101109 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, neat you will pass close to me
< 1393106772 124691 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, in Örebro
< 1393106787 76819 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, car?
< 1393106940 412088 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick NICK :yorick
< 1393107038 565483 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes. (Starting point is a Hertz car rental office.)
< 1393107062 170159 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, One day or several?
< 1393107148 714015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A couple; the points with markers are places we'll spend a night (the Kolmården marker is probably not at the hotel, since I just typed in Kolmården), and then one night in Stockholm because of ferry schedules.
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< 1393107183 93791 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I don't know if there are any tourist attractions of notice near Örebro
< 1393107204 595938 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I guess Svampen, it is a neat looking water tower with a restaurant at the top
< 1393107221 474686 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were going to stop at that Kinaparken place you took pictures of.
< 1393107235 454526 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh nice, I forgot I posted pictures of it
< 1393107243 458412 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you located it?
< 1393107256 669086 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a bit off the trodden path as it were
< 1393107268 318360 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've found their http://www.bastedalenherrgard.se/?nr=18 site, I haven't looked closer than that yet.
< 1393107281 936128 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1393107290 355203 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a set of GPS coordinates on the page, not sure if those are accurate.
< 1393107335 343796 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well their "map" (karta) is useless, it shows a google map with no markers...
< 1393107353 767349 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh the English version has a marker
< 1393107360 582655 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that is interesting
< 1393107364 279088 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I don't know what's up with that. Google Maps does find a "Bastedalens Herrgård", anyway.
< 1393107365 169353 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And confusing
< 1393107382 702265 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, try switching with the flag in the upper right corner
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< 1393107404 689783 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, does it work for you on the English page?
< 1393107407 877834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1393107410 610175 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curious.
< 1393107413 808392 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very
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< 1393107447 103365 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, when were the pictures from? That day with almost no one there?
< 1393107459 837635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. With I guess some rain? I don't remember exactly.
< 1393107466 121768 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah it rained iirc
< 1393107490 694361 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at the source (which has had all newlines removed), the English page has markers: [ { latitude: 58.786664143237495, longitude: 14.935569763183594, html: "Bastedalens Herrgård
& Kinapark" } ]
< 1393107501 164423 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the Swedish?
< 1393107506 21528 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :While the Swedish one has markers: [  ] in it.
< 1393107512 346964 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah
< 1393107546 843377 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=Svampen,+%C3%96rebro&safe=off&hl=en&tbm=isch&imgil=kUBdzYtUsc73FM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcShXZ4_7HMvyJUKTCJtDBQSVuVLeRhJU_Fyb30v6uNuaocsLiET%253B210%253B210%253BRA7tMg1LRX_gCM%253Bhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.orebro.se%25252F1636.html&source=iu&usg=__uMggZb9-QVnOllVHfHDI19zhEXs%3D&sa=X&ei=DyEJU-C-La
< 1393107547 28806 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :u_ywPRuoHoCA&ved=0CGUQ9QEwBA&biw=1920&bih=1063#facrc=_&imgrc=kUBdzYtUsc73FM%253A%3BRA7tMg1LRX_gCM%3Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.orebro.se%252Fimages%252F18.3c1ef9ae11d4988e18f800010926%252F210_210_Svampen.jpg%3Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.orebro.se%252F1636.html%3B210%3B210
< 1393107550 251237 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus
< 1393107554 712631 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lets try that again
< 1393107573 358222 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=Svampen,+%C3%96rebro&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=biIJU9KqA4b9ygOF8ILwDA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1352&bih=759
< 1393107576 188200 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is better
< 1393107602 182386 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that is in Örebro, a water tower with a restaurant in the top. I heard it was pretty good
< 1393107608 441848 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :but never tried it myself
< 1393107641 268904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, a water tower with gills.
< 1393107673 480356 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, kind of yes
< 1393107679 557126 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kvarntorpsh%C3%B6gen
< 1393107686 430274 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, there is that too
< 1393107701 660232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a restaurant on top of a water tower here in Espoo, http://www.finroute.ru/upload/iblock/80a/80ad65c84a906c1b159f012dcaae8f05.jpg
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< 1393107714 69320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Less mushroom, more UFO.)
< 1393107715 259132 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I can try to make a summary if you want
< 1393107746 908957 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can probably read enough Swedish for Wikipedia articles.
< 1393107819 911107 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, basically they mined skiffer for oil during the second world war
< 1393107830 100696 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that heap is the slag from that
< 1393107846 602571 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is really hot inside. Smoking from parts of it.
< 1393107865 375197 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is an art exhibition on the top of it nowdays 
< 1393107888 687564 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konst_p%C3%A5_H%C3%B6g
< 1393108016 600049 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason Google Maps (in English) seems to have a lot of names spelled with a lowercase first letter in Sweden.
< 1393108023 765489 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least at some zoom levels.
< 1393108024 901212 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I noticed that too
< 1393108035 980587 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mosås for example
< 1393108085 488877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of them seem to be labels that turn into a small-caps font when zoomed in enough.
< 1393108123 415630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though Vättern stays at "vattern | Vättern" (with | denoting a newline) no matter how much I zoom.
< 1393108140 282412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Vänern is just Vänern.)
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< 1393108282 484082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Råsunda in Stockholm is also "rasunda" at some zoom levels.
< 1393108299 217683 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh
< 1393108406 151452 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Saltsjö-Duvnäs is first "saltsjoduvnas" and then later "SALTSJODUVNAS". It's like their small-caps labels can't do diacritics or punctuation at all.
< 1393108417 746880 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/om7LJLQ.jpg
< 1393108431 277175 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "Herrgård & Kinapark"?
< 1393108510 172657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Based on the pictures, "Herrgård" sounds a bit grandiose. Though I guess it applies to most things that have enough own land around.
< 1393108515 599507 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chinese Garden sounds sane though, I almost expected a chinese theme park or something
< 1393108540 569274 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1393108545 706349 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, there is a herrgård near there iirc
< 1393108612 523910 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do rent rooms and apartments, but we sort of thought that perhaps not.
< 1393108685 848183 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Why do they have a "finger" mouse pointer for the background rectangles of the navigation menu when only the text labels are actually clickable?)
< 1393108739 686495 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, probably not pro at web design?
< 1393108775 194092 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"
< 1393108785 191865 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol what
< 1393108795 167653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess their ttttt is tttt.
< 1393108959 203121 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: But what about the polygon counts in the models, huh? 
< 1393109088 255778 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, oh god, is that what the new Thief is like?
< 1393109104 233678 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm did it release already? I thought it was next week
< 1393109148 547797 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, I would suggest playing Dishonored instead, that has pretty good level design
< 1393109389 56605 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393109513 697530 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really called "Thi4f", right? 
< 1393109525 543474 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume not
< 1393109532 989370 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's just "Thief".
< 1393109634 568974 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :regular expression crosswords spoiler: http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/recross.png
< 1393109666 365799 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tedious, but in the end the solution was unique :)
< 1393109736 608135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the corner we were discussing was indeed from the 12344321 rule.
< 1393109933 62018 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and what have they done to the text tool in gimp? it used to be usable for just adding a single character to a picture...)
< 1393109950 248307 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :eusjfryeuwigevhfye73isekdhfuiehduiboilyshaouisdhudisk
< 1393110110 434604 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since that was incomprehensible, it used to be possible to have text centered around the position where one clicked. Now, apparently, the position one clicks becomes the upper left corner of a text box. annoying.
< 1393110228 183246 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like this idea of "regular expression crosswords"
< 1393110493 796469 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can you make one?
< 1393110504 687590 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i know you won't, but could you?)
< 1393110525 587778 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393110535 956120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't know
< 1393110616 590793 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i bet they could be generated automagically
< 1393110634 926531 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, to be fair people were coming out with all sorts of dire predictions before human revolution came out, and it was pretty great in the end
< 1393110813 747325 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :vorpal: Yeah, i liked Dishonored.
< 1393110823 135628 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :vorpal: I did a ghost run.
< 1393110857 820633 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did one in Human Revolution, too.
< 1393110878 509232 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem with dishonored (also with hr to a lesser extent) is that ghosting is kind of depicted as the 'right' choice
< 1393110919 572143 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :in dishonored's case this is a problem because killing people is really damn fun, in hr it's a problem because if you get spotted it's really hard not to just think of it as a failure and quickload
< 1393111040 850275 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i have been trying to replay hr recently without just ghosting it and it's not been that fun)
< 1393112066 786371 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1393112257 317060 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1393112806 186059 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393112806 371146 :Guest80757!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1393113508 575244 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split
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< 1393113514 128186 :LoRdToLsToI!filo3sofie@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-zxvucydekrajhksj QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393114182 491819 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393114339 278864 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1393114340 686594 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1393114358 999071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there clearly should be more std*s to choose among
< 1393114455 363341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: i suppose you could branch out to c header file names
< 1393114631 714960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : nothing like washing the dishes to singe off a few skin layers on your fingers... <-- i see two options (1) use less boily water (2) use gloves
< 1393114738 221621 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393114739 146641 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393114950 871850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite splitty today.  i am reading codu and tunes logs in parallel.  tunes managed to pick up some of Sgeo's lines twice.
< 1393115008 841269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then tunes leaves off for hours.
< 1393115019 761381 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393115224 772193 :nisstyre_!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3
< 1393115265 299264 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393115296 657656 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :la la la
< 1393115567 433283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mi mi mi
< 1393115830 68976 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393115835 667205 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooo
< 1393115839 12808 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is s o
< 1393115841 857429 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric
< 1393115851 374305 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Node_492 
< 1393115858 111517 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you!
< 1393115863 151441 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. No bot.
< 1393115868 944802 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha
< 1393115872 372737 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1393115898 722567 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting channel
< 1393115906 721786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didn't mean you but our welcoming bot
< 1393115922 861240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm...
< 1393115926 945141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^welcome
< 1393115927 130464 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try ...
< 1393115927 478203 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh
< 1393115944 534832 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh it's esoteric programming language design...
< 1393115966 448494 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never really got into computer programming
< 1393115968 557435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right we tried putting a backup message on fungot but it's cutting the line too short
< 1393115968 981632 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if so, call this command with that person's nick. :) hopefully i can get freedom by spending some extra ram i'm all for that
< 1393115991 617207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it works for desperate times
< 1393116000 299397 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1393116004 388681 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: the bot would have said: "Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)", but with way too many colors.
< 1393116033 308406 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah thank you
< 1393116052 2953 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought this channel was going to be about esoteric discussion/texts
< 1393116067 27124 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh. I have to remember that fungot knows about this, too.
< 1393116067 428595 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: there is a complete waste of time. i just used the manpage on linux), so that's 1+0, or 1 week the other way
< 1393116098 129053 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again, redundancy hardly ever hurts. then again, redundancy hardly ever hurts.
< 1393116102 61000 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It saddens me that it seems the only thing I care about enough to actually get into an argument about is whether redstone is TC or not
< 1393116146 721311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: hm you must be another one of my mirror twins.
< 1393116162 40967 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, which side do you take
< 1393116201 962992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i don't play minecraft, but doesn't redstone have bounded memory?
< 1393116223 483234 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, which nobody else seems to grasp
< 1393116258 783720 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've gotten into tc arguments elsewhere lately
< 1393116261 653298 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody want to teach me programming?
< 1393116267 829698 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that time it was the human brain, which was just sad
< 1393116268 51528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notices that fungot
< 1393116268 274525 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm not talking about syntax now...) sends " fnord" this'?
< 1393116268 883397 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I promise to be a great pupil
< 1393116275 734519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s message was eerily relevant
< 1393116280 202943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(again)
< 1393116280 395048 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: What programs, and what programming languages?
< 1393116280 579919 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :33
< 1393116290 267586 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the waste of time one?
< 1393116290 873732 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492, ok your first lesson as a programmer
< 1393116293 392498 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea I mean the most basic I suppose
< 1393116305 632475 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am interested in audio programs though
< 1393116307 912646 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :your primary way of learning to program is to google " tutorial"
< 1393116310 784864 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I'm an audio engineer for my day job
< 1393116318 302933 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and deal with audio plugin VSTs within DAWs
< 1393116319 824987 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :for computers
< 1393116325 988736 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and could make a good amount of money off of those
< 1393116343 255414 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :often these tutorials will be shit and inaccurate; your second lesson in a programmer is how to furiously defend whatever arbitrary preferences and habits you've now picked up
< 1393116348 632463 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: wow. it works for malbolge. http://www.lscheffer.com/malbolge.shtml
< 1393116367 962939 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :right but I'm on a mac, would learning to program really benefit my life?
< 1393116381 305922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1393116382 564763 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, you're the one who wants to learn!
< 1393116387 772530 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean
< 1393116394 360263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming is unpleasant and programmers moreso
< 1393116396 191333 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn to program, be like elliott
< 1393116399 118699 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't I just learn some fun tricks in the terminal or something
< 1393116402 634851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1393116423 430236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no the one about "call this command with that person's nick", which is just what i forgot to do with ^welcome
< 1393116424 790063 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming doesn't have to be a drag does it?
< 1393116432 6104 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun tricks in the terminal are the gateway drug to programming!
< 1393116437 99029 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly
< 1393116449 474935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mind you that would have just cut it off even more)
< 1393116477 554758 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what do you guys do for programming?
< 1393116480 652869 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :websites?
< 1393116496 366544 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I program in many programming languages.
< 1393116508 92748 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1393116511 399027 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I were to say
< 1393116516 243134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: your programming question seems to have brought out the channel's cynics :P
< 1393116516 729578 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can list some if you want
< 1393116523 893461 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you try to get a blockchain.info account code and password
< 1393116533 805636 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :would that be possible for you?
< 1393116538 646130 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1393116547 410665 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you asking us to hack someone's bitcoin account
< 1393116556 975860 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: I don't think so.
< 1393116559 239959 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm asking if your programming skills coule do it
< 1393116561 213070 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
< 1393116569 124006 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if I can't even get an account password and shit
< 1393116583 23203 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :then this programming thing is just pebble bits
< 1393116586 105948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: you seem to be confused about what programming is for
< 1393116595 147582 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :like would any of you guys be able to program for my computer to shut off
< 1393116599 84411 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :remotely from your location?
< 1393116616 804390 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :??
< 1393116618 216667 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1393116621 424001 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: What operating system do you use? In order to do that, I would not only need to know the operating system but your computer needs to run a program to listen for that command.
< 1393116632 763057 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?
< 1393116634 573160 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :most probably not, if not for some social engineering
< 1393116642 776843 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no way to get into my terminal and make it install itself?
< 1393116651 766415 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492, you will literally die if you don't turn off your computer asap
< 1393116657 333746 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :man
< 1393116659 500513 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so
< 1393116662 545217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: There *might* me.
< 1393116667 813131 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh
< 1393116670 83757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends how it is configured.
< 1393116670 637689 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay fine
< 1393116672 568580 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so programming
< 1393116679 745241 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But probably not.
< 1393116689 3326 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :say I want a program that picks up sound frequencies and tells me what key the tone is in
< 1393116693 163592 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :would any of you guys be able to do it
< 1393116696 390951 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I paid money
< 1393116708 727567 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: Does your computer have a microphone?
< 1393116717 225496 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes I have microphones
< 1393116720 998905 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :that connect to my computer
< 1393116722 695179 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there probably are existing programs to do that anyways.
< 1393116727 969181 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I know
< 1393116743 821350 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just trying to see if I can do anything with programming
< 1393116744 859659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably could if I researched it enough
< 1393116750 41307 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1393116759 762359 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I mean...
< 1393116775 977772 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming is the #1 job market next to lawyers and engineers
< 1393116787 70913 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just pretty interesting to me
< 1393116796 544148 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought programming was a bit more powerful
< 1393116804 204049 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I thought hacking was easier
< 1393116805 557963 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :either or
< 1393116821 602866 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not completely understand you. Powerful in what ways?
< 1393116836 231292 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, buzz-wordy. "Most modern spectrum analyzers are now almost exclusively Hybrid Superheterodyne-FFT based giving a significant improvement in sweep time."
< 1393116840 903856 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the best programmer in ze world
< 1393116848 948029 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Superheterodyne!
< 1393116854 2734 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :would they be able to shut off internet servers remotely
< 1393116858 93690 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :or anything cool like that?
< 1393116870 463644 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that all fake and you actually would have to have physical access to the servers
< 1393116870 905700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not "cool" hth
< 1393116871 771272 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: it's not cool. they might, but where's the fun?
< 1393116874 34668 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: It depends what they have access to.
< 1393116886 375819 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if they have access to the whereabouts of the secret princess
< 1393116904 609426 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't something I know anything about.
< 1393116912 608086 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :33
< 1393116954 611146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: i don't care about hacking or other criminal activities, so i've never bothered to learn any more than vague theory about it.  i'm sure many people here on the channel are the same.
< 1393116968 453575 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright so 
< 1393116968 691594 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I read 2600.
< 1393116976 924958 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's something cool you could do with programming
< 1393116986 554423 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could do stuff like automate the sprinkler times
< 1393116987 808457 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no interest in committing any crimes, but the information can be used for other purposes too.
< 1393116992 315939 :eupatheia!~SapereAud@unaffiliated/tempo/x-9563005 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393116996 800414 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: Yes, if it is connected to a sprinkler.
< 1393117003 308203 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just trying to understand it's usefulness
< 1393117011 634455 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise you can't do it anymore than you can shut off a server remotely.
< 1393117013 735293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever used a computer?
< 1393117016 917345 :eupatheia!~SapereAud@unaffiliated/tempo/x-9563005 PART :#esoteric
< 1393117019 459781 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1393117026 203879 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting.
< 1393117030 659346 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you from the past
< 1393117031 580561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just trolling, right?
< 1393117034 983339 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1393117039 267572 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only 16
< 1393117041 944077 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a smartphone
< 1393117047 23256 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :as that's what my generation got
< 1393117054 139099 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a computer
< 1393117058 279787 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine
< 1393117082 244275 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smartphones aren't as good as a proper computer
< 1393117082 858263 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a computing device, if you will. but for all intents and purposes, it's a universal machine running software, that is, programs.)
< 1393117094 2146 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes it is a computer.
< 1393117096 591543 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not universal
< 1393117097 353988 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :your version string reports OS X
< 1393117103 770460 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're definitely using a computer right now
< 1393117106 328596 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the downside is that vendors will lock it down and make it hard to run your own software on.)
< 1393117109 795105 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I'm at the mac store
< 1393117119 105554 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting my phone fixed right now
< 1393117122 598394 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had weird issues
< 1393117126 261560 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would shut it down
< 1393117138 132375 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I thought maybe learning a bit of programming would help future events like that
< 1393117155 844241 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :most probably not
< 1393117160 78312 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will not
< 1393117174 994891 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1393117182 493873 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so say I learned all the programming in the world
< 1393117191 439322 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :would I theoretically be able to make my own smartphone OS
< 1393117191 625033 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It really doesn't. Even if you have a better understanding of what's going wrong, you'll still be locked out. (And generally you'll be unable to collect the necessary information, again for lack of access to the device.)
< 1393117195 421343 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Apps
< 1393117203 547134 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1393117211 369009 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmers write operating systems and apps.
< 1393117218 909540 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is CTCP version
< 1393117228 192731 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thanks int-e
< 1393117228 777493 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not found written on stone tablets
< 1393117232 794539 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1393117270 698355 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is requested ctcp version from node_492
< 1393117274 605105 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"CTCP" is "client-to-client protocol", a method for encoding queries to IRC clients on top of IRC messages.
< 1393117289 605171 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's elliot trying to do...?
< 1393117306 245543 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody was interested in your IRC client software, and asked it about it. nothing happened, it's normal.
< 1393117327 35266 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay
< 1393117329 971301 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway
< 1393117341 988787 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I work as a audio forensics person
< 1393117344 835304 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like reading a name plate on a door bell.
< 1393117355 815910 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we have technology at our base that allows us to do some wicked stuff
< 1393117361 615356 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought programmers were savvy on it
< 1393117389 287656 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I can take out certain frequencies/sounds from an audio source and isolate it
< 1393117389 473598 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :some are
< 1393117404 855621 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :some programmers are. programmers specialize. and of course some are better at what they are doing than others.
< 1393117415 367820 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1393117485 410130 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd implement some sort of band filter. I've never needed one, so I'd hit google with those keywords. (I know it can be done with FFT, but that's probably overkill in this case.)
< 1393117544 240678 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I already know how to do it
< 1393117552 159604 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have software specifically for audio forensics
< 1393117559 776446 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just wondering how hard it is to make my own
< 1393117569 789957 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : I work as a audio forensics person
< 1393117569 975401 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably need 3 years of learning and a 10 man team
< 1393117573 214094 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're sixteen
< 1393117579 330394 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so?
< 1393117590 311945 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I intern at my friends studio
< 1393117602 378339 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm
< 1393117619 635153 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you guys give me an audio file I can prove my skillz
< 1393117710 991381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: i'd think once you know basic programming, the hard part of audio forensics is learning the mathematical theory of sound waves.
< 1393117730 274870 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there's algorithms already though
< 1393117741 894580 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the funamentals of tone and frequency are all in textbooks
< 1393117742 313863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, those are of course based on the math.
< 1393117768 217994 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay
< 1393117773 817971 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my field
< 1393117785 223389 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've been doing this new thing called circuitry emulation
< 1393117792 927514 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :where we take an old vintage analog piece of hardware
< 1393117799 59161 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we model it's behaviors
< 1393117806 45510 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :through convultion and many other means
< 1393117812 623550 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and create a software version of the hardware
< 1393117830 836530 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hey, I was going to suggest that I could simulate an actual band pass filter circuit, then erased that remark.)
< 1393117839 320867 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they do it by hardware that picks up the vintage gear's mathmatics
< 1393117858 883434 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no
< 1393117863 961160 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do that with a simple equalizer
< 1393117877 844242 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, what I was getting at is 
< 1393117890 360392 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there hardware/gear that helps programmers out
< 1393117905 612873 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :by say, figuring out equations for them and whatnot that they might need within their programming
< 1393117910 508342 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides a calculator I suppose
< 1393118037 231246 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, perhaps things like the signal processing toolbox for matlab (is there some open source software like that?)
< 1393118051 326271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my impression is _most_ programmers (i'm not actually a professional one) do web programming, which doesn't require much equations.
< 1393118072 618286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and is also probably boring.)
< 1393118167 176500 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Octave's got some of MATLAB's filter design bits implemented.
< 1393118180 11423 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm sure there are programmers in the world that have used Mathematica.
< 1393118185 453259 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393118200 437531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do apple stores really use what looks like residential ADSL for their internet connections?
< 1393118226 741458 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes
< 1393118231 776024 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not an official mac store
< 1393118232 6341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes?
< 1393118236 852532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1393118237 37533 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a repair shop in the city
< 1393118246 552776 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine that starting with something high-level that offers, say, filters that can be plugged together, and then exploring the internals of a filter and writing your own, will be far less frustrating than starting from the bottom, where anything more complex than a 'hello world!' will be a challenge initially.
< 1393118259 362774 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the matlabs filter design and signal processing is EXACTLY what I was looking for
< 1393118261 74200 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you!!
< 1393118262 914129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are third-partyi Phone repair shops?
< 1393118271 987200 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true
< 1393118284 4172 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't have a mac store in edinburgh, we have some 3rd-party place
< 1393118284 326587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which don't void apple's warranty?
< 1393118294 803455 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might void it
< 1393118298 584088 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure
< 1393118313 580545 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, not sure if it's coincidence that I managed to reconnect after adding chat.freenode.net:6667 and making the chat.freenode.net:7000 config use SSL
< 1393118317 717082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If you keep quiet about it.
< 1393118317 902495 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The successful connection seems to have been to 6665, which it was alraedy trying to go to
< 1393118319 924697 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And SASL didn't seem like it was helping before
< 1393118358 763613 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "I don't know why there's a rude message scratched into the internal components of the phone, it must've been like that when it left the factory."
< 1393118363 55870 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: a coincidence is likely, since chat.freenode.net resolves to several IP addresses.
< 1393118397 364999 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :do any of you guys use DAWs with VSTs/AUs?
< 1393118402 501119 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is true that freenode's 7000 is SSL-only, though.
< 1393118415 636147 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmm, but it could be worth checking whether some of the servers listen to non-6667 ports only)
< 1393118416 524237 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all programming and probably one of the most popular up and coming sectors of programming
< 1393118461 261991 :TodPunk!~Tod@c-71-199-36-196.hsd1.ut.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393118514 476251 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"digital audio workstation", "virtual studio technology", "audio unit". No.
< 1393118552 793837 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use Csound.
< 1393118562 173400 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not with VST, DAW, and AU, though.
< 1393118562 950444 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, I feel like crap
< 1393118576 824936 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah
< 1393118581 700452 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but I don't seem to be connected to 7000
< 1393118582 721603 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :Csound looks interesting
< 1393118585 361262 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might download it
< 1393118601 35099 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooooo
< 1393118615 789815 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is Csound almost like a sound modulator that you can program?
< 1393118619 298400 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also wrote extensions to Csound, and a program CsoundMML to compile the score.
< 1393118647 362255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION guesses on "almost, except not almost"
< 1393118676 933720 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are quite a few "audio programming languages" around. Pure Data is another well-known one.
< 1393118682 729626 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1393118684 575882 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for some values of "well known".
< 1393118695 775057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In the "I've heard of it" sense.)
< 1393118700 635262 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so say I get good at coding in one of these programs
< 1393118702 362491 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what?
< 1393118720 140972 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I make programs for other people to use or something
< 1393118723 228621 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1393118830 476221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guesstimate that most users of Csound/Pd are just doing music-y things for their own amusement.
< 1393118872 312373 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And/or sound-related research, could be handy tools there too.
< 1393118881 584300 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1393118916 142572 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so programming is difficult in my opinion without a GUI
< 1393118919 488150 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it sounds retarded
< 1393118923 918498 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :but coming from the layman
< 1393118941 108835 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming things would be so much better if they had GUIs
< 1393118959 807062 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer it without a GUI, but that is due to preference
< 1393118980 972198 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just hate the whole
< 1393118987 940972 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't undo/go back type thing
< 1393118991 515278 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe you can
< 1393119029 988559 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of those 1-2-3 things: 1. learn programming.  2. ...  3. profit!
< 1393119058 261461 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :do any of you guys earn money from programming
< 1393119058 978627 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1393119069 96888 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather make a living?
< 1393119074 405912 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the meantime, programmers who know a bit of C can laught about  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhEuZKmCcAAcPAS.png
< 1393119086 228895 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Now that I look at it, Octave-Forge's "signal" package seems to have grown to cover a lot more of MATLAB compared to what it used to.
< 1393119086 949204 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how do you even approach people for jobs
< 1393119128 287262 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey int-e, that's not a stab at me is it??
< 1393119149 776539 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :companies have websites. say, https://www.apple.com/jobs/us/
< 1393119155 662219 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, so that works out as a goto fail that will always be executed, right?
< 1393119167 432766 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: no.
< 1393119170 306268 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: yes!
< 1393119174 559792 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1393119185 333419 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I'm sure Python people are already using this as a proof for their superiority.
< 1393119222 944756 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: interesting.
< 1393119228 220799 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1393119309 117661 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: The point of the 1-2-3 thing is really that there are many ways in which programming may come in handy. You can work as a programmer, you can do consulting, you can do something entirely different and automate a couple of data processing tasks. You can program for others, or you can make tools for yourself. It's hard to say which is the way to go.
< 1393119331 924926 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393119332 109969 :Guest80757!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393119332 110156 :LoRdToLsToI!filo3sofie@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-zxvucydekrajhksj JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393119352 887058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you get indentation-does-not-match-logic warnings out of any mainstream compiler and/or lint tool? 
< 1393119364 451920 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1393119386 608913 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kinda want to get into it but it seems a bit too daunting
< 1393119394 660277 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm sure something like StyleCop would've just generally warned about the lack of braces or something.)
< 1393119449 142225 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh http://www.stylecop.com/docs/SA1503.html yes it would have.)
< 1393119516 621524 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :do any of you guys know about an esoterica IRC channel
< 1393119521 378603 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: That is certainly true. Then again, learning anything in more than superficial detail is daunting.
< 1393119531 742704 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes of course
< 1393119543 198553 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the notion of programming on a black screen with no GUI
< 1393119544 819940 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like
< 1393119553 148283 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :asking the hottest cheerleader out at school
< 1393119557 362254 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to do that.
< 1393119565 215564 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :[my terminals are black on white ;-) ...]
< 1393119570 145157 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1393119584 182295 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so through programming in the terminal
< 1393119588 196658 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can create GUIs right?
< 1393119592 835983 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1393119605 218642 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if I were to start programming and create a GUI for my own programming thing
< 1393119607 969799 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can use it easier
< 1393119630 38726 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :buttons so I don't have to type out long commands
< 1393119631 838759 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc
< 1393119632 548966 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use existing guis.
< 1393119639 691152 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1393119649 705329 :ggherdov!sid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1393119851 13390 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :also
< 1393119856 50143 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time I was in IIRC
< 1393119864 376160 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made fun of some guy
< 1393119873 261570 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he fucking throttled my internet connection for MONTHS
< 1393119883 454576 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :god that was fucking horrible
< 1393119914 241663 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1393119947 752803 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1393119971 27216 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host
< 1393119971 212299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393120424 6336 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1393120470 517427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : do any of you guys know about an esoterica IRC channel <-- the end of our welcoming message which got cut off mentions #esoteric on the dalnet network, which is sort of where we've agreed to point people who ask (we haven't found any better channel).  although last i heard it was very quiet.
< 1393120508 93084 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may also be interested in roald dahl
< 1393120538 813258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don
< 1393120558 948636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION remembers and swats shachaf -----###
< 1393120562 712861 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just ask whatever questions you have here; maybe nobody knows, but they are recorded so you can look later
< 1393120603 947735 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1393120614 584760 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah I just wanted to have a discussion on stuff other than programming
< 1393120622 623999 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came onto IIRC to just socialize
< 1393120624 457267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i'm not sure that's a very good idea.
< 1393120630 744626 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I forgot that it's mainly programmers talking to each other
< 1393120637 259591 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is mainly programming
< 1393120642 278083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But we do discuss various things here.
< 1393120648 647049 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1393120650 459993 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393120650 645454 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably nobody knows the answer though
< 1393120657 504701 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once made a GUI for xmms2 in kommander
< 1393120657 689937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So better idea would be to look elsewhere
< 1393120660 306969 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have any questions really
< 1393120661 11528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: you are on the freenode IRC network.  it is even more mainly programmers than other irc networks.
< 1393120661 196836 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code was ugly
< 1393120663 632224 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: it's IRC, "Internet Relay Chat. "IIRC" is "if I remember correctly".
< 1393120686 397217 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :...?
< 1393120694 51633 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, Freenode is mainly programming
< 1393120701 987932 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is the different between IRC and IIRC
< 1393120705 454877 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There was a quote missing.)
< 1393120714 544509 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :one is three letters. the other one has four.
< 1393120721 769368 :ggherdov!sid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393120730 163929 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :enlightening!
< 1393120739 722795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,IRC
< 1393120750 214327 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (irc,iirc) = (0,1) in irc == iirc
< 1393120753 27714 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : False
< 1393120753 215624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: irc is a way to chat.  iirc is an abbreviation to use while chatting.  hth
< 1393120762 510573 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1393120767 466122 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
< 1393120811 394095 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "hth" dnh, I suspect :)
< 1393120836 560957 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the irc everybody uses for discussion/socializing?
< 1393120841 218645 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :dalnet?
< 1393120848 649606 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends what you want to discuss.
< 1393120863 21648 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :o
< 1393120871 675095 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just trying to find interesting stuff
< 1393120878 97164 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and interesting people
< 1393120886 572794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: imo you cannot be right hth
< 1393120894 526007 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there is interesting stuff in this channel, but I don't know if it interests you or not.
< 1393120900 565769 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit/4chan and all those bought out travistock operations are becoming mind numbingly bad like the six o' clock news
< 1393120925 109452 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's sobering. I thought I had a chance of being right on occasion.
< 1393120937 645674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: reddit isn't so bad if you find a medium low size channel
< 1393120947 684848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the big ones that are truly crap
< 1393120951 826736 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but then it becomes so specialized
< 1393120958 27908 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't talk about anything BUT that topic
< 1393120962 866382 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it becomes very vanilla
< 1393120981 796687 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I googled dalnet irc
< 1393120987 14285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah alas the best subreddits are the ones that are strictly on topic
< 1393120987 199418 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :but none of the links work
< 1393120999 238458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: irc.dal.net supposedly
< 1393121005 90970 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but that defeats the whole purpose of general discussion/socialization
< 1393121024 716234 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it's cool for strict discussions
< 1393121032 725497 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not a great place to just chat
< 1393121039 210223 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :General discussion/socialization isn't the best idea; better to ask a specific question.
< 1393121044 775930 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL
< 1393121061 214127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never looked much to places for general chat so i don't know how to find the good ones if they exist
< 1393121072 685989 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is
< 1393121081 929793 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been looking for years since usernet
< 1393121087 936596 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they've all gotten shut down
< 1393121104 64833 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :or moved onto private invite only message boards
< 1393121111 523606 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :that become super elitist
< 1393121117 117328 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :private social boards
< 1393121119 758498 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah blah
< 1393121148 557740 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the plebs are left on reddit/facebook and the content from it is ruining my brain
< 1393121246 759500 :nooodl_!~nooodl@81.241.157.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1393121309 914528 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc.dalnet is down
< 1393121312 696840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me, reddit is the closest thing i know to usenet as it was
< 1393121369 10635 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But are there NNTP servers for Reddit?
< 1393121437 520779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that's not what i mean by "closest", i mean socially, not technically.
< 1393121454 422798 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1393121456 607037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1393121461 773116 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys are so caught up on the technical stuff
< 1393121469 579969 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :take it easy
< 1393121479 690226 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easy?
< 1393121485 446117 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1393121489 8485 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :TAKE IT EASY
< 1393121489 776722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear
< 1393121500 8273 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is impossible.
< 1393121519 574480 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have yet to understand the yin and yang
< 1393121531 627013 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :without balance you will be leading a life of self destruction
< 1393121531 812554 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know yin and yang a bit
< 1393121547 42455 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. We are really not into that sort of esoterics.
< 1393121559 872906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: curiously, zzo38 is probably the one on this channel who knows most about astrology, despite not believing in it.
< 1393121563 787677 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know some things of yin and yang
< 1393121570 240402 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL
< 1393121578 786289 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about astrology
< 1393121582 9062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's my fault too.
< 1393121583 658147 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody want me to read them?
< 1393121589 515843 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read what?
< 1393121594 916086 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :natal charts!
< 1393121616 716903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i once made a web page with a horoscope for a game i played, with a link to astrolog software)
< 1393121616 902503 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't have any intention for you to read any natal charts at least
< 1393121620 839433 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody into the works of Carl Jung?
< 1393121629 192009 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have heard of Carl Jung.
< 1393121638 575707 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :great stuff would you agree?
< 1393121638 760772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: i used to be a little
< 1393121657 242982 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't agree or disagree, since I haven't much other than heard of it.
< 1393121668 669522 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah I see
< 1393121671 881338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, and I wanted to learn what all of the lines and symbols meant. Now I know.
< 1393121673 612555 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar LOWI
< 1393121674 221677 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 230150Z AUTO 27003KT 9999 OVC070 M01/M02 Q1023
< 1393121696 869849 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo
< 1393121702 911526 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to read my natal chart for kicks?
< 1393121708 752228 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, AUTO?
< 1393121719 300329 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tell me what you think
< 1393121727 781733 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: If you want; I don't really care.
< 1393121734 772356 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1393121740 463369 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want my opinion of it then of course that is the only way
< 1393121743 423361 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on, I'll get the graph right now
< 1393121745 442421 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, boring. "fully automated report"
< 1393121760 407167 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I know that "Node" is an ascending lunar node, meaning intersection point on the ecliptic with the Moon's orbit
< 1393121791 985338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I know what astrological signs mean, what house systems mean, and why it used a different symbol for Pluto than I was used to (I prefe the "PL" symbol though)
< 1393121836 973377 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And where the names "Tropic of Cancer" and "Tropic of Capricorn" come from.
< 1393121850 528916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know that before, and due to something oerjan wrote, I was curious and now I learned.
< 1393121890 498773 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1393121891 312968 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo
< 1393121893 493616 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.astro.com/tmpd/cbnlfile7a1elM-u1393121875/astro_w2gw_01_freenode492_3_hp.8276.28993.gif
< 1393121897 703081 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me know what you think
< 1393121932 169471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well for one thing, it blows your claim to be 16 hth
< 1393121961 477747 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think a 16 year old would know anything about carl jung?
< 1393121978 76672 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not if it isn't for your birth.
< 1393121986 504891 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, you do make a good point.
< 1393121989 734279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, none of us really believed you were 16 but i find it funny nevertheless
< 1393121998 804756 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1393122035 910377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although i remember a couple of ridiculously smart 16 year olds on the channel from before, right elliott)
< 1393122036 115466 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I prefer the Astrolog format (which is formatted a bit differently), but this works too.
< 1393122054 80605 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, Astrolog also calculates Julian day numbers.
< 1393122063 344317 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :??
< 1393122068 143374 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean
< 1393122085 455616 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but knowing about usenet was too much. *g*
< 1393122096 178371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh right i missed that clue
< 1393122105 113219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, being 16 was one of the few things I believed that Node_492 said
< 1393122110 147696 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL
< 1393122120 433873 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Julian day numbers are a form of timestamp where the day begins at noon in Greenwich. The reason for that is so that the day number doesn't change while observing the stars.
< 1393122124 29103 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't even try to start discerning my fabrications
< 1393122131 340757 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're following my 33
< 1393122144 23024 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I do undertsand everything on that chart you linked to
< 1393122149 951997 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1393122152 769043 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think of it?
< 1393122159 532040 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :personality wise
< 1393122160 272378 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc
< 1393122189 725730 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it tells much personality wise. I am not an astrologer.
< 1393122201 731072 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it tell you anything?
< 1393122219 312317 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in the context of 'your moon is here'
< 1393122227 931795 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I mean what information can you extract from it?
< 1393122239 373482 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I can extract the phase of moon from it.
< 1393122247 18508 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's in leo
< 1393122265 420402 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I can see that.
< 1393122277 864125 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the phase of moon is the difference in ecliptic longitude between the sun and moon.
< 1393122295 343047 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh
< 1393122296 250795 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1393122299 6224 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks to be almost a full moon.
< 1393122307 76437 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :what effect does that have?
< 1393122327 793790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw those are a _lot_ of planets in capricorn.
< 1393122359 973172 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1393122365 423359 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that uncommon?
< 1393122365 628105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe it has an effect on personality, but not any I know of. It certainly has effects on lighting conditions, tides, etc.
< 1393122378 72671 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1393122386 908593 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see five objects in Capricorn.
< 1393122395 510580 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was common
< 1393122410 888844 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how common it is. I asked similar questions actually.
< 1393122416 964532 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1393122424 653358 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo are you a capricorn?
< 1393122429 222397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: well it would be common for anyone born around that time i guess
< 1393122437 339078 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :right oerjan
< 1393122444 13118 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I meant
< 1393122450 605786 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the general populace I suppose
< 1393122462 109456 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody want me to read their charts?
< 1393122478 773989 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty good at it
< 1393122488 937316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: I don't make that information public, nor do I care much. When I have the horoscope on my screen, I usually use the one for the current moment/place, which is more useful to me.
< 1393122515 778951 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :could someone perhaps do ill with that information?
< 1393122522 591845 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you just don't want anybody to know
< 1393122541 837967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: I just don't want anybody to know. I don't really expect anyone can do ill with that information.
< 1393122565 498360 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay
< 1393122581 389519 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is there any impression from the chart?
< 1393122587 333098 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean you haven't really told me anything...
< 1393122646 40583 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want that, you would have to ask a different channel with astrologers. I don't believe in all that stuff, so I can only tell you what it means in terms of positions, and how they affect mundane matters, such as phase of moon and so on.
< 1393122654 580183 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And equinoxes and solstices.
< 1393122664 704702 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And rising and so on.
< 1393122668 667096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things like that.
< 1393122701 582825 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :well do I have any significance in those aspects?
< 1393122707 314268 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :equinoxes/solstices etc
< 1393122758 766012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The equinoxes are when the Sun is at 0 Aries or 0 Libra. Solstices are when the Sun is at 0 Cancer or 0 Capricorn (these correspond to the tropics of the same names). I can see it isn't an equinox or solstice at the time charted.
< 1393122769 221318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one thing i notice is your moon and sun are close to in opposition (not sure if they're in technical sense), which i vaguely recall means your emotions may be in conflict with your soul and true purpose hth
< 1393122787 360118 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting
< 1393122788 506644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, I noticed that too, which is why I said, it is almost a full moon.
< 1393122797 282514 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :capricorns are said to be 'contradictory'
< 1393122801 5229 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that makes perfect sense
< 1393122802 950329 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what sun-moon opposition means to *me*, at least.
< 1393122818 500718 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :sun(father) and moon(mother)
< 1393122841 801075 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I appreciate the technical aspects of it
< 1393122848 325478 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hmm, what's the orientation of the chart, do the sun and moon move counterclockwise?
< 1393122853 431522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :People have used these astrological interpretations to make up features of fictional characters/stories, and that is a perfectly legitimate use of it; if it is your story, do it whatever way you want.
< 1393122856 251064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes.
< 1393122864 531502 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1393122887 396831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other objects, since they don't orbit the Earth, sometimes go in the other direction.
< 1393122906 888902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps with the other planets clustering close one could say that your emotions are in conflict with _several_ other aspects of your personality, which on the other hand fit together.
< 1393122918 707886 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: tsk. what did you just say about the sun? :)
< 1393122919 915642 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1393122940 727057 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but yes, that's why I asked about the sun and moon only.
< 1393122951 299890 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I said the sun and moon move in the counterclockwise (which is positive) direction of the chart.
< 1393122970 165770 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "zero point" is the beginning of the "Aries" sign.
< 1393122970 350875 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but the sun does not orbit Earth.
< 1393122983 834941 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: though it's hard to tell the difference.
< 1393122986 896520 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, but the Earth orbits Sun, and using relative positions it works out the same way.
< 1393123041 442065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used the horoscopes in my computer to calculate when is Chinese New Year, to calculate the exact times of equinoxes and solstices, to predict phases of moon and (to some degree) eclipses, and various things like that.
< 1393123042 608 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1393123048 714953 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I know. I just can't help it, I must nitpick anyway.
< 1393123049 124122 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do a lot of things!
< 1393123074 657461 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, anything else besides the contradictory thing?
< 1393123079 458549 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I appreciate the feedback
< 1393123081 622494 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes. I didn't actually say the Sun orbits the Earth; I only said that the other planets don't orbit the Earth.
< 1393123097 977018 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't take it too seriously but symbolically I don't ignore it
< 1393123165 247285 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you got me there. "sometimes" translates to "never" in the case of the sun.
< 1393123190 145130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes. But the Sun isn't a planet. Since the Earth orbits the Sun, it doesn't go backward.
< 1393123344 227608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Astrolog has many different charts it can generate. Such as, the standard horoscope chart, with the circle and the ecliptic longitude of objects on the circle (you can tell it to plot right ascension instead if you want), or the "ephemeris chart", which plots time on the vertical axis and ecliptic longitude (or right ascension) on the horizontal axis.
< 1393123439 214726 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some things can be seen better using the "harmonic factors", which means all ecliptic longitudes are multipled by a factor. This can be useful to see many things, on any chart type. For example if you use harmonic factor 2 in the ephemeris chart, you can see both new moons and full moons as lines crossing.
< 1393123461 105311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: i'm not really an astrologer so i don't remember clearly what the planets other than sun and moon represent.  i notice jupiter is there with the moon opposing the others (except mars), i _think_ it has something to do with governing, being the king of the gods and all.
< 1393123485 756921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the superego maybe?
< 1393123490 386634 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had my jupiter in cancer
< 1393123491 913212 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reads
< 1393123503 287853 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my booklet
< 1393123504 205423 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :JUPITER IN CANCER  IN Cancer, Jupiter is in the house of his exaltation; and that sign being above all a symbol of pleasure, we may naturally expect that it will bring out the truly "jovial" qualities of the planet. This is undoubtedly the case; the native is good-humored, benevolent, and humane; the emotional nature and the imagination are strong; but the pleasantest qualities are more evident in the nativities of private persons than in 
< 1393123512 842481 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not an astrologer either. But I can tell you what interpretations are built into Astrolog, if you want this information.
< 1393123540 201908 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's what I'm asking
< 1393123541 134067 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psychologically, you would ask, do you think that describes you or not? To what degree?
< 1393123546 817273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right i've forgot all about the astrological signs.
< 1393123553 806074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly it can result in questions, if nothing else.
< 1393123563 53061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, nearly all)
< 1393123563 449591 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it certainly does
< 1393123568 438327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(questions to ask to yourself about your personality, that is)
< 1393123573 543409 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been doing this for some time now
< 1393123581 389608 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wanted to understand your guy's level of knowledge
< 1393123590 70319 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :like zzo's ability to read into different charts
< 1393123596 846803 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen that
< 1393123613 588159 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm wondering why in the world would you take the time to learn all that
< 1393123659 162253 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :on that level, leaving all the astrology aside, it's applied geometry.
< 1393123670 495619 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see a certain appeal to that :)
< 1393123676 569712 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess
< 1393123682 269397 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems so arbitrary to me
< 1393123697 397594 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, we don't know much; this isn't an astrology IRC. If you want more you have to look elsewhere. But I can tell you only *objectively* what it means. I don't know about the subjective meanings of these things and am not much interested. Like they said, I don't believe in astrology either, but I understand enough to tell you whether or not you can actually tell your sun sign by your date (not time) of birth, and so on.
< 1393123729 968668 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear ya
< 1393123740 249462 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just wondering why you even know all that
< 1393123771 794271 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :osmosis
< 1393123773 895216 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have in fact advised someone on this, since they were curious. On the day he was born, the sun passed from one sign to another, so without knowing the time of birth I cannot tell you what your sun sign is. This information isn't useful to me, but it is nevertheless a true or false statement.
< 1393123792 713016 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1393123797 408279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: Because I was curious what the symbols on the chart meant, and I studied it, so I learned.
< 1393123808 321912 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1393123917 494893 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393123917 751635 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so cold in here
< 1393123937 930554 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And allows to figure out things. I learn astronomy too, but also the astrological conventions. Both kinds of conventions are useful, actually; most astronomers don't know astrological conventions (causing them to dismiss astrology for invalid reasons), and have no use for them, but a few astronomers find them useful! (Note: I am neither an astrologer nor an astronomer.)
< 1393123956 984118 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are we done with the dos now
< 1393123974 720118 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ddos is done
< 1393123976 261493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry Bike, dos is forever
< 1393123982 216522 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1393123991 333060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of people in this channel do somewhat unusual things though, especially myself.
< 1393123994 529646 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny zzo, I studied astronomy in college which is why I'm interested in it
< 1393124010 712114 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you seem to know the formula for more than what even my professors knew
< 1393124018 479315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, we are mainly mathematically and scientifically minded.
< 1393124035 267519 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ignore the right brain guys
< 1393124039 673937 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you think that anatomists dismiss haruspicy for invalid reasons
< 1393124044 387331 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: The reason may be because, like I said, most astronomers don't know about astrological conventions.
< 1393124045 531277 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you'll creatively regret it for the rest of your dull life
< 1393124046 615645 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1393124049 251018 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't know what that means.
< 1393124058 409581 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean astrological conventions?
< 1393124080 113773 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: I agree with you there; I do creative stuff too, and I do music too, but I am *mainly* mathematically/scientifically minded, not entirely.
< 1393124113 800436 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome
< 1393124114 441484 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: I mean things like house systems, ayanamsha, etc, which are all perfectly objective things.
< 1393124124 322649 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is ayanamsha
< 1393124128 935709 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like sanskrit
< 1393124143 599786 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ayanamsha is the Sanskrit word for the amount of the precession of equinoxes.
< 1393124144 719958 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are like astrological events right?
< 1393124145 452054 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haruspicy is telling the future using animal entrails.
< 1393124155 560159 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL
< 1393124162 512520 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike is a good guy
< 1393124169 833065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Not something I knew, but still I cannot answer your question.
< 1393124176 930743 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's kidding
< 1393124214 852914 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey zzo you do music
< 1393124218 285977 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you use a DAW?
< 1393124226 770403 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: I do music, but not using a DAW.
< 1393124238 252251 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you never record?
< 1393124247 638233 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1393124259 57084 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think haruspicy would be somehow analogous to astrology in this respect if haruspices [sp?] had somehow named the animal organs in a way similar to but subtly different than anatomists.
< 1393124279 869239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/than/from/
< 1393124281 243059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have any microphone on my computer; I generally use Music Macro Language to write a text file and then compile it.
< 1393124295 58534 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is different than how many people work, but is what is best way for me.
< 1393124298 207611 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393124311 610678 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I study a lot of things.
< 1393124315 631976 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wtf
< 1393124321 500966 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :you turn a text file into music?
< 1393124325 629365 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: Yes.
< 1393124330 548233 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :interdasting
< 1393124364 830854 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you play any instruments?
< 1393124370 242060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I can play piano.
< 1393124373 494909 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!
< 1393124374 417797 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1393124375 745316 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too
< 1393124491 178986 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :do any of you guys use bitcoin?
< 1393124513 319930 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393124521 813912 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking of starting to accept it for my business but it's pretty lulz
< 1393124522 945784 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :y
< 1393124564 292990 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I myself don't use bitcoin (maybe my computer is not fast enough to run it anyways)
< 1393124582 937513 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anybodys computer is fast enough for mining these days
< 1393124596 200356 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway also
< 1393124609 750961 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if you guys remember but back in the day there were these folding services
< 1393124617 138872 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with all the cyberthefts, they should calling it "yoursing"
< 1393124624 550366 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you would have your computer run cancer cell tests
< 1393124635 312156 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and put it in some database or something for university research
< 1393124637 575071 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something I have said before is that, a purpose of chiromancy (a.k.a. palmistry) is to know what all of the lines on your hand are called.
< 1393124644 186103 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, prime kinda started it
< 1393124650 746827 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seti at home, folding at home, rsa at home
< 1393124661 284977 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I was thinking of starting a coin that had some beneficial algorithm in it for research
< 1393124673 36632 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :for diseases or whatever
< 1393124681 48553 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES!
< 1393124681 566309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: Interesting idea. I wonder how possible it is.
< 1393124683 973227 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :seti at home
< 1393124685 767647 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what it was
< 1393124709 890691 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :also 
< 1393124713 209027 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mining = searching for coq proofs?
< 1393124720 544033 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :hash algorithm
< 1393124731 517406 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://proofmarket.org/
< 1393124758 720855 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooooooo
< 1393124764 464963 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :g e n i u s
< 1393124770 611817 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's basically what I'm talking about
< 1393124777 693648 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not implemented into the program itself
< 1393124821 314269 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone shoudl implement a system where people who are interested in making the world better can do it without worrying about food and shelter
< 1393124837 482223 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1393124845 334344 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean essentially I think seti at home is pretty much it
< 1393124852 557976 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just thought if more people did it
< 1393124855 184964 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be better
< 1393124892 575962 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo rational drug discovery
< 1393124951 899813 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: so how do inconsistencies affect that market? is there a rollback when one is found?
< 1393124971 601105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can see a problem with the proofmarket system:  https://proofmarket.org/problem/viewa/20   It allows you to prove false things.
< 1393124981 71659 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL
< 1393124985 459075 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem and solution
< 1393124989 107487 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :they really thought it out
< 1393125009 288620 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :proof of work: donate $1000 in real money to the UNHCR
< 1393125013 806680 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay okay
< 1393125028 400115 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a seti at home type thing but you get paid 
< 1393125032 265485 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's an incentive
< 1393125058 725785 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean theoretically if all those asic mining rigs were helping solve cancer cell algorithms, we would be far better off than hashing useless code
< 1393125065 73548 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and killing our computers in the process
< 1393125124 555050 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well all the asic miners *can* do is hashing. they wouldn't help with more complex computations.
< 1393125158 771297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Redefining False is like cheating though
< 1393125186 535069 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in fact I'd argue that they are a good thing because they make mining on general purpose computers unattractive.)
< 1393125205 329169 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume the idea is that atleastyou'redoingsomethingcoin would result in asics that can test rotamers or w/e instead of hashing.
< 1393125236 951233 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see int-e
< 1393125252 264602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: bah clearly you should be rooting for tromp's new coin scheme
< 1393125261 311521 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I mean I'm sure they could easily make better asic chips specifically for something more beneficial like setiathome algorithms no problem
< 1393125265 955513 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuckoo hmm.
< 1393125271 626481 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehhh
< 1393125279 602840 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean prime is doing a similar concept
< 1393125283 975440 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not rooting for either really
< 1393125294 139274 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :inte: beats me
< 1393125307 372104 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just think that collectively mining on a beneficial cause could be very important for the future of technology/civilization
< 1393125313 197126 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is seti@home data certified?
< 1393125327 828890 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No False proofs in [  ] days!
< 1393125341 464594 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think some organization or university does it, the program was huge and backed/sponsored by many organizations
< 1393125345 975656 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I suppose jobs are sent out several times, and there is no money involved, lowering the incentive for cheating.
< 1393125346 921299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Redefining False is like cheating though <-- wanted to `addquote you but HackEgo isn't here
< 1393125358 99201 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not
< 1393125364 2097 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: so that probably wouldn't work for pseudobitcoins.
< 1393125368 917830 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like making sure your script has no bugs
< 1393125408 298398 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :node; like most things dealing with money, its not very beneficial for society ;-)
< 1393125423 819910 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :right but is asic mining really beneficial for society?
< 1393125426 898409 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :best way to be beneficial to society is to ignore money temporarily and work on benefiting society
< 1393125461 121824 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does asic mining exist enough to have any effect on society at all
< 1393125468 912921 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh yeah
< 1393125481 631096 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's literally driven radeon GPU supply through the roof
< 1393125488 332023 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hasn't been like this since 2006
< 1393125493 371060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: Yes you are correct
< 1393125499 73956 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :even before geforce came out with the 670s
< 1393125503 868061 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think increasing GPU sales is much of an effect.
< 1393125510 625461 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham you're absolutely right
< 1393125517 428190 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :but government jobs wouldn't get paid
< 1393125528 246793 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those oh so meaningless jobs will finally be truly
< 1393125530 96622 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaningless
< 1393125534 830131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the point was asics were replacing gpus because gpus couldn't keep up either
< 1393125545 245741 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :inte: sounds like that "false" guy just asked the wrong question
< 1393125550 611118 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but you can't use ASIC for gaming
< 1393125551 974414 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and someone found a "bug" in the question
< 1393125552 541133 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :only for mining
< 1393125557 518246 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more people game than mine
< 1393125569 318015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone mentioned the other day that the bitcoin network as a whole does 2^64 hashes every ~10 minutes
< 1393125574 440342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of hashing imo
< 1393125576 840042 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: my remark was prompted by the news item on the homepage: "Now using coq8.4pl3, which is not known to be inconsistent."
< 1393125608 65284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you saying radeon GPU supply is through the roof because no one buys them any more
< 1393125608 339201 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah that will be an interesting question if it is encountered.
< 1393125625 37926 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe copumpkin will steal all of the agda bounties with his next proof of false
< 1393125648 859100 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as someone indirectly paid by a government i suppose i should be offended
< 1393125655 738479 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can think to myself: at least i haven't invested in bitcoin
< 1393125674 640926 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they bought all the radeon GPUs out
< 1393125699 967281 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont find govt jobs useless.
< 1393125718 643046 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've clearly never met someone that's in social services for the state
< 1393125722 279303 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i personally like roads and police stations and fire stations and public schools and medicare and ...
< 1393125736 998313 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :who doesn't?
< 1393125745 854654 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you, apparently
< 1393125746 983947 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like agencies that make sure food is not poisonous
< 1393125750 155095 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1393125765 386321 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i am all for regulating financial crime
< 1393125784 615522 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway who wants to read a paper on modifying game physics engines to research tertiary DNA structure
< 1393125797 857902 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like living in a country where getting into an ambulance can cost you $10,000 dollars and was built by the bloods of the native americans 
< 1393125798 477439 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it's you, reading this message right now, personally
< 1393125804 826507 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :whome were raped and given diseases
< 1393125810 399183 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be rid of the land
< 1393125813 838815 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that we can install
< 1393125817 853674 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :imperialistically
< 1393125819 383550 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASIC miners.
< 1393125820 420453 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :our police
< 1393125821 476969 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :medicare
< 1393125823 317644 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :node: see, i dont think it woudl cost $10k if ambulences were run by the state
< 1393125832 799441 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing more efficient than socialized medicine is what we have now
< 1393125838 508596 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :err more expensive ;-)
< 1393125843 88794 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :freudian slip?
< 1393125843 940545 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had my co-worker faint and go to the ER room with an ambulance
< 1393125853 133178 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :she literally had to sell her house to pay the bill
< 1393125859 231994 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and move her family to another county
< 1393125859 434506 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not true. i could charge you money for haruspicy to determine how you'll get sick.
< 1393125872 14967 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you bike your FNORDS are showing
< 1393125885 199191 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are some of the Bitcoin script commands disabled?
< 1393125890 669439 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :node: i dont see how you're connecting that to govt jobs
< 1393125897 319177 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?
< 1393125900 726629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you think about showing fnords?
< 1393125900 993221 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: let's do a crossover. aids is god's punishment for sinning"
< 1393125903 218085 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how they're employed
< 1393125914 938784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i think you are not helping here.
< 1393125915 196448 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: usually you write all occurances of " scheme48". is he blippo? srfi-news?)
< 1393125919 159853 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're employed by the very government that enslaved african americans, kept them as sex slaves, 
< 1393125924 482 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :raped the native americans
< 1393125926 709256 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you coworker fainted and went to the er room in the ambulence how much did you coworker pay to the govt?
< 1393125929 159347 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the south americans
< 1393125932 479398 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it did fit perfectly into the discussion.
< 1393125939 879938 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: unfortunately
< 1393125941 700273 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how we built the government that gives these people their jobs
< 1393125950 422134 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: talk about math
< 1393125950 607732 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i just got that quote as a fortune. it's
< 1393125964 481220 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: say it, say it, what is it?
< 1393125964 668713 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: a fnord fnord one sector will be frustrating, too, except when i am
< 1393125971 704188 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :33
< 1393125989 932443 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: dronf.
< 1393125990 170118 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: eval ( remove ' a mylist)... remove is not defined in the same way as fnord ( fnord
< 1393125997 752233 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seeing a tragic lack of interest in rotating amino acid bonds, here.
< 1393126009 472933 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :go seti at home brah
< 1393126019 359293 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: your context has been poisoned. can you show us some brainfuck?
< 1393126019 560604 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: your code was going to submit in the paper can be used
< 1393126034 482218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: word
< 1393126146 337696 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I am curious what the point is, is this an easier road towards exploiting GPU power than starting from scratch? I'm assuming that the actual physics are quite different.
< 1393126158 667738 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're not interested in physics engine modification I could link a few papers on artificial "bis-"amino acid polymers. I know a guy writing his own compiler for that shit
< 1393126224 631070 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: already have!
< 1393126259 394080 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot
< 1393126273 928548 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i think they need things that aren't in a lot of chemical situations, like steric hindrance (roughly, collision detection)
< 1393126278 811227 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :chemical simulations
< 1393126301 25841 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the physics are pretty much the same with what they're doing, just rigid body dynamics. i don't think they're worrying about breaking bonds
< 1393126311 600170 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ploscompbiol.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pcbi.1003456 well anyway there you go
< 1393126567 83270 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, now I can see why some opcodes are disabled; how would they fix that then?
< 1393126596 59259 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :hax
< 1393126612 542294 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats that game where you connect together pipes and in doing so you're searching for mathematical proofs (without knowing it)?
< 1393126630 764188 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf
< 1393126903 369931 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.washington.edu/verigames/  <- there
< 1393126940 189960 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://homes.cs.washington.edu/~mernst/pubs/verigames-ftfjp2012.pdf
< 1393126952 68318 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't some of you guys wish the internet went off tomorrow and didn't come back on for 3 months?
< 1393126960 164035 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be a nice break
< 1393127047 730938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.
< 1393127056 31952 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL
< 1393127106 875661 :qwebirc4507!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1393127628 967514 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude wtf
< 1393127631 738816 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried dalnet
< 1393127639 8115 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :that shit is like IRC for yahoo answers
< 1393127642 24575 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like worstevernet, imo
< 1393127647 892012 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously
< 1393127661 406085 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I FEEL LIKE A FUCKING KIWI
< 1393127670 168600 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWKWARD AND FUZZY
< 1393127683 930552 :qwebirc4507!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL
< 1393127802 413240 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey bike
< 1393127805 583367 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your name Jordan?
< 1393127986 623405 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never.
< 1393128163 747161 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have done other way around, which is to make a sequent calculus that implements a computer game (such as sokoban).
< 1393128204 130894 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :......
< 1393128275 645723 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized
< 1393128280 359934 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you fall into programming
< 1393128287 680142 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will stay there
< 1393128291 147807 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :forever
< 1393128297 189526 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget, you're here
< 1393128298 943477 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :forever
< 1393128317 104446 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah.
< 1393128325 938275 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be gone tomorrow walking in the morning breeze between the trees
< 1393128332 892883 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you'll all need your coffee
< 1393128336 702125 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a book of interviews with famous programmers. one of them's a composer now. nother one works at a phone company selling dialup.
< 1393128342 891437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492: i think you mean "Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity."
< 1393128352 883615 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really
< 1393128372 65874 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you do
< 1393128374 602969 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the perception of the computer screen being the only thing you focus on in your room becomes daunting
< 1393128393 330087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's our wiki motto, borrowed from someone else who came to this channel looking for esoterica.
< 1393128407 132133 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1393128415 286695 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty pessimistic
< 1393128420 85098 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :but true in some sense
< 1393128423 504088 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :false in some sense
< 1393128429 458957 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and completely meaningless in another sense
< 1393128462 223813 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean don't you guys think it's fucking crazy?
< 1393128474 45127 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :to just sit in a room for hours and just stare at a screen
< 1393128483 139395 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean don't get me wrong I do it too
< 1393128493 507593 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at some point I think to myself 'holy shit, this is fucking insane'
< 1393128504 338013 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then go outside or travel to another city for a week or two
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< 1393128538 41044 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't have a smartphone so I'm not in the meta-matrix of solidity
< 1393128539 869186 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 NICK :Guest52739
< 1393128548 811284 :Node_492!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :but boy has it gotten bad
< 1393128604 808526 :qwebirc4507!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :tis'
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< 1393132748 869158 :qwebirc4507!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/session PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the real Node_492 hahaaa~
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< 1393143518 277537 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know this program contains several bad stuff that could be improved, but other than the obvious stuff, is there a more efficient algorithm if costtab is known?  http://sprunge.us/EOKM
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< 1393144281 656074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quoting Greg Kuperberg from Aaronson's blog: "News flash: While D-Wave threads debate whether snow shoes count as ice skates, the Martinis group at Santa Barbara lands a quadruple axel.  http://arxiv.org/abs/1402.4848"
< 1393144429 295637 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
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< 1393145974 90228 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node_492 was interesting
< 1393146046 874872 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean usually trolls don't first feign interest for hours and only then start talking about matrices of solidity (or maybe days, i ran out of backlog)
< 1393146196 351933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: sorry but i brought up the matrices
< 1393146212 24935 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but i mean the topic
< 1393146223 546069 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just didn't know the technical term
< 1393146240 276009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he made it quite clear when he arrived that he was looking for the other kind of esoterica.
< 1393146248 737504 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1393146298 298463 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see
< 1393146301 121930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote solidity
< 1393146307 360014 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i missed his arrival
< 1393146307 545046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph
< 1393146314 268411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bot has dissolved
< 1393146329 318946 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 months without internet... would give me plenty of time to read all the mangas on my phone
< 1393146329 504545 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually still have no idea what the other kind of esoterica actually is
< 1393146359 160521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: hey no fair saying that when `addquote isn't working
< 1393146380 21696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: What mangas do you have on your phone (and how many)?
< 1393146388 456165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well astrology probably counts
< 1393146405 714974 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: about 100, i don't know most of them yet :D
< 1393146423 787448 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the Akagi manga
< 1393146440 457103 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, perhaps, maybe other divinations too?
< 1393146443 159980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as does jung, which was also mentioned
< 1393146450 758898 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll add it
< 1393146450 943969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure
< 1393146479 214833 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Akagi manga is difficult if you don't know Japanese mahjong though.
< 1393146480 27903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and alastair [sp?] crowley probably
< 1393146494 666138 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually don't think a lack of internet would matter that much to me
< 1393146497 799670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aleister, apparently
< 1393146505 986366 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, now I can understand what you mean.
< 1393146553 733826 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obligatory stuff (imho) contains liar game, tower of god, the gamer, oyasumi punpun
< 1393146576 305786 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much all of my activities except this place can be done internet-less
< 1393146598 605084 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there is that crazy manga where people play mahjong against putin, hitler and the like
< 1393146604 67807 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never read it, though
< 1393146614 143701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yes, I have heard of it, but never read it.
< 1393146619 812470 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :without a computer, i would be pretty much crippled
< 1393146629 214852 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty famous for the super aryan
< 1393146644 984881 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even do math on paper
< 1393146648 144657 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually
< 1393146653 555327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaspeth
< 1393146656 820206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a lot of books, pencil, paper, so I can work even without a computer, but far more slowly, and doing less things
< 1393146702 546065 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Super+Aryan_5b4c58_4527514.jpg
< 1393146705 935371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION keeps a notebook in his jacket, but doesn't use it that often lately
< 1393146710 272204 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do math on paper, and various other things on paper
< 1393146742 599015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I often write unrelated stuff on the back of a paper which I have previously printed out from the computer
< 1393146759 564733 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes even on the front
< 1393146773 760593 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, wth @ http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pItHDgP3A8g/T4kMyxhP3EI/AAAAAAAAAAs/rp62Rnb2O50/s1600/swastika%2Bhair.jpg
< 1393146775 169425 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to reuse paper rather than waste it
< 1393146781 997246 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i usually do all research in my head, and then write the article directly to .tex
< 1393146801 406429 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a lot happens on a whiteboard actually
< 1393146807 264721 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i am really disappointed about the current price of the sony slate
< 1393146824 639777 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd love to have one, but 98000 yen is ridiculous
< 1393146863 219911 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I do write things directly onto a TeX file but sometimes the things I write on the paper are never used elsewise.
< 1393146875 983 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sometimes I am not accessing the computer, because I am elsewhere.
< 1393146880 182145 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :math is one of the main reasons i use paper
< 1393146890 492524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to write a lot more on paper before.  i remember when i was little, my dad brought used computer printouts so i could write on the other side
< 1393146947 171751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(these were long reams of paper with holes on the side)
< 1393147061 465496 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i have to do a lot of calculations with numbers, i do use paper, like if i have to give homework sessions (i still don't know what the term for this is) for a linear algebra class
< 1393147106 268965 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for topology, measure theory, combinatorics of words, cellular automata, logic, automata theory, etc. you don't really need any external memory
< 1393147217 759099 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but maybe i just do very simple things)
< 1393147346 390768 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I do use it for math, but for other purposes too.
< 1393147395 688820 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... what the hell is a verigame and why didn't i know of that earlier?
< 1393147447 367005 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For calculations with many numbers I will often use a TI-92 calculator, although sometimes also writing things on paper
< 1393147453 547728 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw Node's idea of doing cancercoin was actually pretty genius; also sort of obvious but i hadn't thought of it
< 1393147457 895142 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I remember those paper
< 1393147462 526944 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not the same paper
< 1393147467 81130 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the computer reams :)
< 1393147514 931329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: SORRY YOU ARE TOO YOUNG IT'S NOT POSSIBLE
< 1393147546 194329 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It scares me that my parents met after half of my friends at uni were born
< 1393147594 391627 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to make friends mostly with the >30 students
< 1393147630 865763 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably made friends with over 30 students
< 1393147637 344274 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never counted
< 1393147650 421338 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant people who are over 30 years old
< 1393147665 182202 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1393147672 701072 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you got that
< 1393147676 636329 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I know any
< 1393147682 968164 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yeah, I got that)
< 1393147688 798147 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" It scares me that my parents met after half of my friends at uni were born"
< 1393147711 481904 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My parents met in '92
< 1393147713 74407 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't that mean your friends are much older than you
< 1393147719 26732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not have proof that my parents didn't meet for the first time 9 months before i was born, but i recall no evidence against either.
< 1393147745 976218 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, only by two or so years
< 1393147749 444606 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see
< 1393147823 751956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i may be tired i may be slipping into tmi mode
< 1393147825 110870 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the oldies are usually alone, so we end up talking
< 1393147854 767527 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they usually have a life story, whereas people my age are like um i didn't know what to do so i ended up in math because i figured it's easy
< 1393147878 727489 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly made friends in the computer science society
< 1393147904 285317 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: they do not have to meet 9 months before you were born
< 1393147912 792956 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your father sold semen
< 1393147947 151888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: i think the evidence is quite clearly against that version
< 1393147978 500329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the fact they married.
< 1393147991 669367 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: there are people outside the computer science society?
< 1393148006 268211 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, yes, for instance the sci fi and fantasy society
< 1393148014 966472 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the CS society here is tiny
< 1393148019 864642 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never went to any social thingies
< 1393148023 573550 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, I wound up treasurer
< 1393148030 572334 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :during my studies
< 1393148124 814539 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I probably ought to join the maths society
< 1393148134 675802 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the sci fi and fantasy society, thinking about it
< 1393148135 780452 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides finishing assignments, talking to people is one of my main activity while studying
< 1393148165 317541 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's weird that I suddenly seem to have a social life
< 1393148178 925934 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :D
< 1393148294 348341 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, are you a student?
< 1393148303 617850 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am
< 1393148318 230542 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where at?
< 1393148331 290915 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :computer science, what else? :p
< 1393148358 892885 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said where, not what
< 1393148367 81472 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1393148372 716919 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fu berlin
< 1393148377 111299 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1393148398 66748 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm at York
< 1393148403 666415 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing Maths and Computer Science
< 1393148415 337453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which maths
< 1393148418 433539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of them?
< 1393148420 158283 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a pretty hard time finding a minor subject
< 1393148450 146801 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, it's practically the only thing (besides the bachelor thesis) that is left
< 1393148454 912334 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, already it's not the applied stuff, and I seem to be heading to only half of that
< 1393148467 30202 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, I'm on a joint course, it's 50/50 Maths/CS
< 1393148481 516041 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :course = ?
< 1393148498 596144 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: math has way to much stuff i really don't want to learn
< 1393148517 290627 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many courses per year do you take
< 1393148523 738596 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, 1 for your entire time at uni
< 1393148526 683909 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1393148541 143257 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the word has two rather different meanings
< 1393148558 416645 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate english
< 1393148567 783578 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, I promised myself when I was eight years old that I'd do maths at uni, and so far I'm not regretting it
< 1393148579 838403 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i promised myself i'd become a programmer when i was 5
< 1393148581 983278 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1393148594 538137 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you didn't know better
< 1393148609 696852 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1393148623 301244 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my father used to tell me i'd realize at some point that i want to do math or physics or something
< 1393148624 419566 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I was 5 I don't think I had much interest in programming
< 1393148645 268391 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because his experience with programming was that it's mostly copying data from one spreadsheet to another
< 1393148649 127749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i was 5 i don't think i had any idea what programming was
< 1393148652 554605 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started programming at 12 and sucked at that
< 1393148660 527243 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started at 6 or 7
< 1393148666 765146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i was 5 i'm not sure i even existed
< 1393148681 872124 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, did you want to be a philosopher
< 1393148683 360869 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :started making my own projects only at 9 or so though
< 1393148706 947328 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started programming when I was 12, sucked then, and I haven't actually got much better since
< 1393148722 163856 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: :D
< 1393148744 21045 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least i don't do basic anymore
< 1393148752 441637 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm probably gonna be a better computer scientist than programmer
< 1393148791 234763 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what you want to do anyways
< 1393148821 825737 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know how hard it is to actually work as a computer scientist without being a coding monkey first
< 1393148858 704739 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1393148861 354096 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would that be hard
< 1393148902 638542 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to be a computer scientist, just don't leave academia
< 1393148927 882313 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd love to, but i am not sure if i'd be able to do that
< 1393148978 448693 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they only have like a dozen or so people that may make a phd while working here
< 1393148988 154760 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may be, but i don't see why being a coding monkey for a while would help
< 1393149002 44979 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it will, dunno
< 1393149121 729429 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean your time at the university is when you wow the professors and such and get funding for a phd, then rewow them with your thesis and publications
< 1393149156 277612 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can become a coding monkey if you like, but i think you'll be judged by your phd time after that anyway, unless they already forgot about you in which case your situation is even worse
< 1393149199 734863 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i don't actually know whether it goes like that
< 1393149249 725128 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just slum out a phd in relativistic quantum chemistry and then you can do whatever you want. fact
< 1393149250 894746 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :future will show, but i think other people are more likely to get hired than i am
< 1393149312 968487 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to improve the algorithm I had? Other than the obvious stuff, I just wondered if, having the constant "costtab" table, can allow any improvements.
< 1393149438 80723 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, what algorithm?
< 1393149463 940438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://sprunge.us/EOKM
< 1393149483 198138 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there are some things that are just written badly and can be fixed, but those aren't what I mean.
< 1393149487 14821 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that C?
< 1393149506 455981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1393149551 584721 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"is that C" made me curious
< 1393149595 30704 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is that supposed to do
< 1393149631 731925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is it that printing optimization for the famicom or whatever it was?
< 1393149636 294304 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To calculate the best encoding of a text string, where the decoder can be in one of three states
< 1393149647 835691 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not for the Famicom, for the Z-machine.
< 1393149798 789632 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In each of the three possible states, there is a different cost for a character depending on what character it is as well as what state will be next.
< 1393149825 31245 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why there ix a 3x3x3 table; it is for the from state, to state, and character's state.
< 1393149862 499609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so famicom means the same thing as NES?
< 1393149869 809504 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1393149871 412790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It is a similar hardware.
< 1393149881 115453 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :japanes
< 1393149884 398666 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Similar enough that most software will work through an adapter.
< 1393149908 814844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :software it counts
< 1393149993 568632 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although sometimes the music won't play, due to an incompatibility in the cartridge header)
< 1393150100 818090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you understand what I am trying to make this algorithm do, now?
< 1393150181 358184 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-161-205.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393150333 855125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember our previous discussion
< 1393150346 31145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough to remember the general algorithm, at least
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< 1393150535 726982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :C microoptimization isn't precisely a skill i trust myself on.  would it be more efficient to expand the table with dummy 4th rows so you can use bit twiddling instead of multiplication?
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< 1393150550 934319 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a good idea, yes.
< 1393150560 378994 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-161-205.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393150587 796781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But my question was if, due to the costtab table being the way it is, there is a way to make the algorithm more efficient due to how its constant data is laid out.
< 1393150631 526371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words, whether there's some structure in costtab you can exploit?
< 1393150683 412365 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1393150975 282878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so the cost is 1 when all of *b, s1 and s2 are equal.
< 1393151049 425839 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
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< 1393151276 960506 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am wondering if any of these things can be used to make the algorithm more efficient in any ways.
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< 1393151476 92578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok the tricky thing is that there's sometimes a cheaper way to print a character than changing to its preferred state, printing it, then changing to the desired end state
< 1393151492 868088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i'm sure you explained the last time
< 1393151527 427513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have already taken that into account in the table, actually.
< 1393151558 151606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i thought so, but i only remembered it when i was thinking about why the table cannot be split up that way again
< 1393151573 888491 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The case is if you are in state 2 and want to stay in state 2, but the character's preferred state isn't state 2, you can use the ASCII escape instead of switching out and back in.
< 1393152177 485518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "Move everything to left" can probably be avoided by combining it with the next step, probably making it faster.
< 1393152203 78618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But your idea to avoid multiplication is a good one too, and I will do that.
< 1393152253 719057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt the form of costtab has anything to exploit though
< 1393152296 6228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK, then
< 1393152341 985834 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I also meant even if the costtab is still there, but maybe there still isn't anything to exploit.
< 1393153081 446865 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like SQLite?
< 1393153365 459107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i don't like your copying of the best[i] elements back and forth, each of them contains an array the length of the string doesn't it
< 1393153380 407048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, bests[i]
< 1393153425 915658 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes like I said it could be greatly improved
< 1393153427 694999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely think i discussed last time how to avoid that
< 1393153451 435923 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are several bad things about this program, which can be improved
< 1393153458 706907 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is one of them
< 1393153563 590515 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some things though, just cannot see right from this part of the code, since you cannot see that some variables are declared unsigned.
< 1393153635 642920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i assumed next[] is unsigned, since that's the only way assigning -1 to it and expecting it to be larger than what you compare with, will work
< 1393153666 596004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, those are valid assumptions.
< 1393153723 217543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program does in fact work. But I am completely rewriting it in much better way, so for one thing, all of the in_row are precalculated (which is possible here)
< 1393153742 183934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a little tricky btw, the idea i have for avoid copying those arrays clashes with how you use *b values >= 3 for special fast characters
< 1393153750 375973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for avoiding
< 1393153811 47202 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, maybe there is a better way to deal with the fast characters
< 1393153859 45075 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I am not sure what it is
< 1393154008 496116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :without those fast characters, you could change only bests[i].data[n] and not the whole of bests[i] at each step.
< 1393154031 532191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the data[n] tells you which i was used in the previous step
< 1393154102 227141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words, let bests[i].data[n] store the s1 that is best at step n-1 for getting to s2==i at step n.
< 1393154431 128303 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly the fast characters could be completely disjoined from the rest of the algorithm, and added back in later (during actual encoding; it doesn't need to know anything about the rest of the algorithm). (The exception is the (ir[0] && ir[1] && ir[2]) part, but such thing isn't really ever going to happen, so it can be removed.)
< 1393154487 894775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait hm i realized, you don't need to change that part anyway
< 1393154525 618801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can keep the fast characters as they are, they're just a special code for s1 == s2
< 1393154554 317600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iiuc
< 1393154555 268839 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they do imply that
< 1393154582 15550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they still contain enough information to tell what the previous state in the chain is, which is all you need.
< 1393154632 90378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for the cost calculating algorithm, the fast characters are irrelevant and the algorithm can act as if they weren't there.
< 1393154644 586837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
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< 1393155042 194715 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you are right that it ought not to copy entire arrays during every step; it only need to copy up to how much is already written, anyways. Especially since I will fix it not to use a fixed buffer length.
< 1393155134 564396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my suggestion is not to copy anything other than the step currently being calculated.
< 1393155175 870262 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK
< 1393155176 607864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will require a final unwinding step to calculate the array to return, though.
< 1393155207 105451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it should be much more efficient than copying much of the array every time
< 1393155244 568542 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, clearly it will be
< 1393155431 401676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1393155485 482223 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However it is copying possibly a different array, due to which cost is best being changed
< 1393155494 632112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I just got confused
< 1393155583 478966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't know what different array you mean
< 1393155668 162860 :atriq!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393155670 575431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the other bests[i].data arrays, for a different "i"
< 1393155700 295600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i think you shouldn't copy those arrays as a whole anywhere
< 1393155715 234835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except possibly for returning the final result
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< 1393155773 87244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that is what you mean by, a final unwinding step.
< 1393155788 66746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I can understand somewhat better what you mean, than I previously did.
< 1393155809 194231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1393155816 487359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1393155880 907123 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now I am a bit tired though
< 1393155887 548181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe tomorrow I understand better.
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< 1393155981 143236 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Node_492 experiment is gone, will it be back?
< 1393156014 445504 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I think that only remains to be seen, whether or not it is.
< 1393156026 832428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm also tired, i'm staying awake extra long to adjust my sleeping cycle to a more convenient phase
< 1393156061 965207 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'd call it a troll except that I think for the most part it failed quite miserably. People didn't get riled up the way one might expect.)
< 1393156083 112206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: we had to do some fungot therapy though
< 1393156083 408487 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it was konqueror and ie that were broken from the beginning of each function in that same language.
< 1393156150 767637 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Thanks, fungot, beacon of sanity.
< 1393156150 973551 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: your model doesn't save the internal state. this is among the most plugged in initially
< 1393156625 473712 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION started at ~ 6.5
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< 1393157125 46055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The TL;DR: Holy $#!t !! I finally can say with a straight face that universal quantum computers might be built in the next 2 decades (given adequate commitment of resources of course… but not more than the low tens of billions dollars, I dare say, which really isn’t more than 2 or 3 generations of new microprocessors these days). :)"
< 1393157152 512629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaronson blog comment by bill kaminsky
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< 1393166469 942247 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor yorick
< 1393166473 479822 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew you well
< 1393166483 683416 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew him Horatio
< 1393166498 657321 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit Slereah you did it wrong
< 1393166512 719799 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know William Shatner that well
< 1393166528 651424 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shakesman
< 1393166538 381314 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand
< 1393166545 531235 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a dude named Marty on freenode
< 1393166557 314598 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never miss my Back to the Future quotes
< 1393166560 597287 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MCFLY!
< 1393166577 691324 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you... Chicken???
< 1393166905 817139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :scarf
< 1393166907 708397 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523
< 1393166939 212209 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1393166998 303147 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393167009 840263 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393168459 123777 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, poor guy :P
< 1393169114 913056 :password2!~password@197.78.170.191 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1393169130 374271 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393169527 820217 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bot
< 1393169528 10107 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1393169854 971743 :tromp!~tromp@69.112.162.42 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393171007 552692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://eccouncil.org/
< 1393171700 817224 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's this, viral marketing for ethics?
< 1393171724 317241 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.130.150 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393171835 666984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a hacked site
< 1393171949 451388 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that so, looks plausible from here.
< 1393172008 160723 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(IP address is 66.111.3.186. Is it the same for you?)
< 1393172138 68506 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, you probably have 93.174.95.82.
< 1393172268 702768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, DNS not propagated for you?
< 1393172607 843288 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I don't seem to get anything suspicious from either IP, but perhaps I'm doing it wrong.
< 1393172770 252397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get 93.174.95.82.
< 1393172901 533383 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was doing it wrong.
< 1393173067 159624 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've now resorted to curl -H 'Host: www.eccouncil.org' 93.174.95.82)
< 1393174031 669112 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-155.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393174283 783721 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393174752 551075 :tromp!~tromp@69.112.162.42 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1393174784 287814 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393175020 224953 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1393175337 39511 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, looked hacked to me
< 1393175717 905946 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: DNS has propagated to here now (the zone lifetime was just an hour)
< 1393175772 448025 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, ah, so they defaced it by redirecting DNS rather than defacing the HTTP server?
< 1393175790 177726 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1393175835 925257 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that about passports on the page btw?
< 1393175956 709407 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they got access to the info@ mailbox (mail is handled by google)
< 1393176012 377767 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's what the screenshot suggests: the shown e-mail has a passport scan as an attachment.
< 1393176408 968368 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm
< 1393176690 238742 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393176823 818601 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think QUassel just gives up on reconnecting eventually :(
< 1393177516 243061 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1393177533 358138 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393178459 251221 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1393178812 619776 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h NICK :sasl
< 1393178824 131992 :sasl!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h NICK :hexagon
< 1393179010 643025 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393179189 212171 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1393179189 938004 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1393180477 462008 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, I guess you need a better connection instead?
< 1393180492 20573 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should log into the ADSL modem to check uptime
< 1393180496 206666 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty massive iirc
< 1393180498 80278 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I blame Freenode, none of the other networks have been giving me problems
< 1393180503 423970 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except once
< 1393180503 638278 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu NICK :Bike
< 1393180504 967609 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough
< 1393180520 575191 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, iirc they got DDoSed yesterday
< 1393181666 295478 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 247 seconds
< 1393182085 364582 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393182857 466825 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I try to use the IRC PING command targeting pratchett.freenode.net, I get "services." in place of the name of the server.
< 1393182956 925649 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The MOTD also says it is a services daemon
< 1393182996 19176 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calling the server "services." does work too.
< 1393183348 225162 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-161-205.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1393183372 531847 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393183378 107031 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, presumably because it is the services?
< 1393183498 916048 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes, it is sensible, but I would expect something else.
< 1393183517 322401 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kay
< 1393183521 931851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other algorithm I wanted to know, for my program, is if there is an efficient way to compile a dictionary of search strings so that you can find them a large collection of other texts?
< 1393183609 802577 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe so, but I do not remember what the algorithm is called
< 1393183661 934331 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, Googling "text search algorithm" (without quotes) found this as the first result: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyer%E2%80%93Moore_string_search_algorithm
< 1393183670 68805 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be worth reading about
< 1393183721 639680 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_text_search
< 1393183844 798373 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia is broke
< 1393183853 621585 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, not from here
< 1393183861 261408 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, it isn't really a full text search that I want
< 1393183862 235750 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess only certain mirrors are broken
< 1393183871 724607 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, then I misunderstood you
< 1393183893 651571 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since my program imports SQLite, if I do want full-text-search, I already have it.
< 1393183920 933933 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But really I mean even substrings like "llo wor" in "Hello world", and so on, being case-sensitive and everything like that.
< 1393183923 673674 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite
< 1393183937 690722 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the first link would fit better
< 1393183982 447888 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be, if it worked.
< 1393183988 816499 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm
< 1393183990 743768 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I get a 503 error.
< 1393184012 139707 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try refreshing? It works for me
< 1393184029 705575 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't work for me.
< 1393184042 170440 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much I can do about that, try later maybe?
< 1393184054 457074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I can try later, like it says
< 1393184095 35384 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is basically an algorithm for speeding up linear text searching by skipping forward in the string when it knows there can't be a match
< 1393184195 291133 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1393184236 504677 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393184296 233214 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think I read something about similar things in some book once
< 1393184393 950193 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, here, this might help: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gUZbBziwUoEJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyer%25E2%2580%2593Moore_string_search_algorithm+&cd=1&hl=sv&ct=clnk
< 1393184397 53859 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google's cache
< 1393184603 183626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's good
< 1393184728 746041 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, there is a lot of links at the end of that article to other algorithms, might be worth checking those as well
< 1393184770 508989 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, by the way, what is your goal here?
< 1393184874 308324 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393184880 733611 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host
< 1393184880 918546 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393184898 345145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1393184903 308931 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf NICK :shachaf
< 1393184954 360323 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order to find the instance of search strings so that they can be replaced by a code that references them, in order to achieve compression.
< 1393184965 911984 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm okay
< 1393184972 571421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I do not have control over the decoding method)
< 1393184991 449837 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Implementing a specific compression format?
< 1393185009 875288 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1393185023 31121 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393185026 229959 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. I could make it to figure out which strings it should compress, too, but I don't know how to do that either, and that data could be entered manually too.
< 1393185032 858111 :iamcal__!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rojmpwbtobzylauf QUIT :Ping timeout: 330 seconds
< 1393185040 24069 :LoRdToLsToI!filo3sofie@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-zxvucydekrajhksj QUIT :Ping timeout: 330 seconds
< 1393185080 569718 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no expert on compression algorithms, but I believe they generally keep a dynamic dictionary that can change as it goes along
< 1393185107 485532 :iamcal__!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nrvgelnsbczznpqh JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393185109 342598 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it generally is done in one pass over the input
< 1393185136 964043 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I have to use a static dictionary
< 1393185150 837002 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a pretty strange algorithm
< 1393185162 149672 :filo3sofie!filo3sofie@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-eyrwdaskfyjplfso JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393185169 819754 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the static dictionary doesn't have to be any specific way; I could make it to figure out the best static dictionary to use, if that could be done.
< 1393185190 899781 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which compression algorithm is this?
< 1393185251 450342 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the one used in Z-machine. This static dictionary is called the FWORDS table, and is limited to 96 entries.
< 1393185287 749381 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictionary_coder (you can easily google the url to find the cache link if you want that)
< 1393185335 911871 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen that article before
< 1393185345 781905 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393185349 444136 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it mentions about dynamic dictionary coders
< 1393185359 276560 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 241 seconds
< 1393185390 741191 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1393185398 63093 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well yes
< 1393185574 838965 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, this also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffix_tree
< 1393185596 662248 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure how you would best determine a static dictionary though
< 1393185604 183368 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be doable though
< 1393185768 848591 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats up
< 1393186036 529391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia works now.
< 1393186046 468062 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's good
< 1393186051 712856 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know it was broken
< 1393186309 158008 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393186908 192406 :iamcal__!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nrvgelnsbczznpqh QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393186939 194587 :iamcal__!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ndlyaokqmgcisdjk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393187608 604825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1393188014 623310 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, only in certain places it seems, it worked fine for me the entire time
< 1393188211 335068 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're not schaf, are you?
< 1393188457 107111 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :* [shachaf] is logged in as shachaf
< 1393188457 947701 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :* [schaf] is logged in as schaf
< 1393188466 254568 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, I would say the answer is no
< 1393188468 809232 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably
< 1393188487 196742 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :schaf is actually sheep in german
< 1393188517 705266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname is actually my name in english
< 1393188527 165732 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i know that!
< 1393188557 37032 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the reason why i have it
< 1393188572 489013 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was like 12 and my uncle said i have to enter a nickname
< 1393188579 25784 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't think of anything
< 1393188584 920565 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :know i stick with it
< 1393189236 465722 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, heh
< 1393189383 367489 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1393189392 395546 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393189572 182867 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393189654 533360 :Noldorin!~noldorin@unaffiliated/noldorin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393189660 191923 :Noldorin!~noldorin@unaffiliated/noldorin PART :#esoteric
< 1393189722 363960 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good hangover morning.
< 1393189816 357860 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FNORD
< 1393189881 986519 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord is the color that only the blind can see
< 1393189895 563202 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nicely put
< 1393189965 73629 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1393189992 114419 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393190342 227044 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1393190466 405814 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fnord.org/~arioch/
< 1393190542 5827 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1393190605 536787 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
< 1393190796 469938 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike
< 1393190803 793238 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we know you're a part of the nick flood
< 1393191120 346633 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should I say aeshtaer
< 1393191264 953389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this about
< 1393191358 548174 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike has been internally sabotaging the group
< 1393191379 420250 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretending to be a decent member
< 1393191423 844609 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I regret nothing.
< 1393191466 707132 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1337
< 1393191474 826212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoin933: who are you and what are you talking about?
< 1393191484 311529 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goddamn
< 1393191490 564763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why do I recognise the name aeshtaer
< 1393191492 115462 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to play the first Might and Magic
< 1393191501 367025 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's on Apple II, it's quite a hassle
< 1393191515 354106 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: do you have an Apple II?
< 1393191516 303128 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah get your fnords out of here
< 1393191526 574492 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah
< 1393191529 621955 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's emulators
< 1393191537 187229 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoin933: who are you, and were you `relcomed?
< 1393191538 131760 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott
> 1393191538 177495 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1393191550 885878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoin933: less noise and complaining at regulars and more answers please
< 1393191565 362318 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was initiated in 1989
< 1393191575 193063 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before many of your were born on usenet
< 1393191588 905801 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've been using #esoteric as a congregation place for years
< 1393191601 897098 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but finally decided that it was too risky and flooded the channels with programmers
< 1393191633 343572 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that our records are lost in a sea of programming jabber
< 1393191664 543832 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many of us still communicate through this channel but not by text
< 1393191671 314961 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but by reply time
< 1393191691 266068 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we correspond reply times to concepts and communicate that way
< 1393191692 189440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, aeshtaer is just Bike's ident
< 1393191702 290877 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1393191703 178063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott
> 1393191703 200303 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1393191710 798099 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've been following him for about two months
< 1393191711 956635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway cut it out or something idk
< 1393191719 211594 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we've seen him sabotage his own friends
< 1393191771 63719 :bitcoin933!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of this matters as what we started nearly 25 years ago will soon pay off this week
< 1393191780 870664 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott
> 1393191780 892232 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1393191784 670156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric bitcoin933 :you're really boring??
< 1393191797 962158 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, since when do you have op in here?
< 1393191822 94591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since almost 8 months ago
< 1393191825 760319 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh okay
< 1393191837 247714 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also who was that?
< 1393191847 519478 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-155.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1393191848 153586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't find any log evidence they'd been here before, oddly
< 1393191864 416516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though they didn't exactly strike me as being here for the first time
< 1393191864 638316 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh
< 1393191882 789734 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably just some regular having a bit of fun by trolling?
< 1393191885 14040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott
> 1393191885 36154 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1393191898 464826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why have the first two parts of their IP never occurred before in my logs?
< 1393191912 452257 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay, that is a good question
< 1393191922 452108 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they have a cloak normally?
< 1393192049 428372 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm ~/Downloads has an interesting system. When there is to much crap in it, I do mkdir old && mv * old, so there is a nested structure of ~/Downloads/old/old/old/old by this point
< 1393192055 787639 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to clean that up
< 1393192094 411921 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find ~/Downloads -type f -exec shred -vuz {} \; && rm -rf ~/Downloads
< 1393192110 894206 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393192156 185823 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily!
< 1393192169 458665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :birch: hi, bitcoin933
< 1393192175 883497 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey
< 1393192183 342195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the nick change meant to endear?
< 1393192196 167144 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I just thought the numbers were weird at the end
< 1393192244 748888 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome birch
< 1393192261 35750 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome birch
< 1393192270 954363 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: quinthellopia.
< 1393192287 557118 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I do that with home directories sometimes. Hence I have such directory name gems as ~/__UBUNTU__/_MUST_SORT_/momusspace-before-crash/mnt/_NSA_MOVE_/music_unsorted/random/old/unsorted/
< 1393192288 198100 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem!
< 1393192288 383131 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. the gregorbots are dead, so no `relcoming.
< 1393192294 403748 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: would you like to grade my essay on computational complexity
< 1393192318 540106 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason naming a directory "_MUST_SORT_" never makes it get sorted out any faster.
< 1393192353 904008 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'd like to, but I can't focus on anything longer than five minutes. I am quite hungover from yesterday.
< 1393192365 170698 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, NSA_MOVE?
< 1393192366 136550 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: sounds awesome!
< 1393192366 777250 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoke some w33d
< 1393192405 662844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: A reference to a Zyxel network-attached storage box with the model name "NSA-220".
< 1393192411 876215 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: nah. been throwing up for the past 11 hours.
< 1393192421 67094 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no bueno senior
< 1393192422 404211 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles birch
< 1393192465 153941 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&ved=0CEYQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fpub%2Fsean-mapoles%2F5%2Fa64%2F6a8&ei=AG4KU-3_MITLkAfK_ICICA&usg=AFQjCNGhaNoSWUXc1xKt0iY7xdhg6DpIkg&sig2=NQ9Rhp_ZMej4m9Wifs3UDA&bvm=bv.61725948,d.eW0
< 1393192473 455947 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Well I guess we know where it reported to
< 1393192500 996937 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393192523 219876 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :purple
< 1393192524 889658 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dark blue
< 1393192527 210069 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :light blue
< 1393192528 285237 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :green
< 1393192530 474044 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yellow
< 1393192531 375758 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orange
< 1393192532 25854 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :red
< 1393192539 315124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I'm sure it's just "Network Storage Appliance" or something equally benign. Incidentally, want to buy it? I'm not using it any longer.
< 1393192551 993916 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, eh, is it any good?
< 1393192582 865062 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Not really. They managed to not include a wake-on-lan feature on it (there's one on the NSA-220+ and the NSA-320, which are later models), for one thing.
< 1393192592 797654 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :448k
< 1393192610 906646 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing...
< 1393192612 474247 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing....
< 1393192614 200241 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing....
< 1393192620 215632 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xcrp
< 1393192628 204158 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :four
< 1393192629 325063 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :four
< 1393192631 243807 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I get op for a few seconds please?
< 1393192632 571152 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eight
< 1393192637 66389 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah... not interested
< 1393192641 857085 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it'll help me feel better.)
< 1393192670 376561 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I LOST MY DONKEY
< 1393192677 338868 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1393192678 356362 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1393192679 600604 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there it is
< 1393192709 804236 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :birch, -_-
< 1393192752 533894 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :fizzie
> 1393192752 555629 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1393192754 915250 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie MODE #esoteric +q :*!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90
> 1393192754 937424 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1393192758 199071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie MODE #esoteric -o :fizzie
> 1393192758 221076 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1393192761 147743 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay capt. fizzie
< 1393192851 362795 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott
> 1393192851 384359 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1393192852 749736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +o :birch
> 1393192852 771217 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1393192854 454219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :birch: yes:
< 1393192856 114371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :birch
> 1393192856 136513 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1393192859 758423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott
> 1393192859 779987 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1393192868 824961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That was boily asking, incidentally.
< 1393192885 654268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1393192889 774387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm competent.
< 1393192936 338075 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Now see what you did again with your easily confusable name. Have you no shame at all? 
< 1393192970 467246 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll feel shameful tomorrow. all my emotions are set aside while I vainly try to feel unnauseated.
< 1393193021 778456 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393193070 995481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should -q birch to see what other dumb things they say
< 1393193163 874402 :birch!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1393193164 179548 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393193344 593974 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393193347 936992 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice 2 20
< 1393193348 274216 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 1 2 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2  --- Sum = 32
< 1393193374 538012 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: ↑ please accept this humble coin-ersatz.
< 1393193995 600121 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thoily
< 1393194360 89195 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice 1 10
< 1393194360 274461 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1  --- Sum = 10
< 1393194478 321994 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice -1 10
< 1393194478 995629 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- ~dice sides [number]
< 1393194479 180757 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Throw dice, e.g.: dice 6 4 will throw four regular dice.
< 1393194484 17059 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice 0 10
< 1393194484 415733 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1  --- Sum = 10
< 1393194493 738273 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel a bug.
< 1393194513 140371 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice 1.5 3
< 1393194513 325144 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1  --- Sum = 1
< 1393194556 255219 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice ⚀ ⚂ ⚃ ⚁ ⚅ ⚂
< 1393194556 440891 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- ~dice sides [number]
< 1393194556 441043 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Throw dice, e.g.: dice 6 4 will throw four regular dice.
< 1393194572 33254 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel multiple bugs.
< 1393194600 518221 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes notes... “negative dice, fractional dice, complex dice, unicode dice...”
< 1393194607 556160 :brandonson!~SingingBo@173.180.174.224 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393194619 206852 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about surreal and infinitesimal dice?
< 1393194632 74087 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESSA
< 1393194632 705786 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSA 232220Z 21017KT 9999 BKN029 06/02 Q1011 R01L/12//95 R01R/19//95 R08/12//95 NOSIG
< 1393194670 876991 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION amends surreality onto the list
< 1393194680 41009 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL
< 1393194680 732682 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 232200Z 23012G19KT 30SM FEW060 FEW240 01/M08 A2978 RMK SC1CI1 SC TR CI TR SLP085
< 1393194695 875871 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I wrote a program that converges on my phone number VIA THE POWER OF NATURAL SELECTION
< 1393194743 166541 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle.
< 1393194752 746563 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: GA?
< 1393194783 707210 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly
< 1393194838 736160 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't implement crossover at all
< 1393194951 45007 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it isn't very useful
< 1393195080 975036 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially as what it finds is written twice in the source code
< 1393195209 650517 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what would happen if I tried calling Taneb...
< 1393195228 389707 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: reminds me of http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/17294/golfing-a-weasel-program
< 1393195371 538221 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do something similar, but restricted to 11 decimal digits, with a 10% chance of switching to an adjacent digit (with 0 between 9 and 1)
< 1393195375 777467 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it keeps more than 1
< 1393198025 828211 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.130.150 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg
< 1393198159 500581 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell nooodl je nog hebt
< 1393198159 723472 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1393199220 152923 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1393199911 91168 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Quit: Changing server
< 1393199956 484102 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393200070 309195 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sings “Aimai san senchi sorya puni tte koto kai? Cho! ♪”
< 1393200764 159285 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
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< 1393202979 176105 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split
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< 1393203131 153925 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1393203566 964357 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem!
< 1393206234 965895 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fortune
< 1393206235 431077 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give me Librium or give me Meth.
< 1393206249 336572 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CLEAN CHICKEN
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< 1393206278 974972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see metasepia also agrees that boily should take drugs for his hangover
< 1393207358 801945 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2CELLOS – Thunderstruck http://youtu.be/uT3SBzmDxGk
< 1393207631 541892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1393207811 319502 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My YouTube favorites is broken
< 1393207814 916171 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't seem to add to it
< 1393207826 601247 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, it seems to let me try to add to it, but it never displays
< 1393207836 336466 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sometimes it shows as 100 videos instead of around 1,700
< 1393209750 969871 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be reasonable to stream games from an EC2 instance?
< 1393210161 870260 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No.
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< 1393213146 486389 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone wrote to 2600 to apologize for stealing previous issues of the magazine.
< 1393213755 280397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin, oerjan, Bike: thanks for birthday wishes <3
< 1393213762 348105 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1393213800 588062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you're back from guesthood
< 1393213808 434120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy kmc++
< 1393214277 645580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1393214513 634572 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1393214650 573965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393214657 97626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/
< 1393214719 791580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the love of money is the root of all evil, kmc
< 1393214774 993755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol https://github.com/ruby-prof/ruby-prof/blob/master/ext/ruby_prof/rp_measure_cpu_time.c#L40-46
< 1393214837 931238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o
< 1393214844 215401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although some people say it wrong, by omitting "love of"
< 1393214858 303917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and also ", kmc")
< 1393214878 659975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :omitting ", kmc" is clearly abhorrent
< 1393214886 149372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what happens when Kids These Days don't learn how operating systems work
< 1393214918 858111 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :back in my day
< 1393214926 484319 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kind of shit did work
< 1393214940 963562 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :(uphill both ways)
< 1393214961 34644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1393214967 448595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're on a microcontroller
< 1393215000 456858 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :a microcontroller that runs x86 or ppc
< 1393215002 884489 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_>
< 1393215022 678232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the intro EE class at my school uses an x86 microcontroller (sort of)
< 1393215033 573385 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ppc is popular for embedded too. what's a microcontroller, etc
< 1393215058 677868 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a macrocontroller
< 1393215120 596200 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there computers connecting peripheral devices (other than the primary keyboard/video/audio) with ethernet and TCP/IP?
< 1393215198 991321 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A good idea would be to have one dedicated port for the keyboard, and the mouse and joystick are chained with the keyboard.
< 1393215211 644251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good old ADB
< 1393215215 373923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but USB can also do that of course
< 1393215261 202141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes they can, but USB has its own problems. Especially with autoplay and all of those things; the primary input devices should be a dedicated port, it would be more sensible, and faster.
< 1393215277 414548 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's bad about the code snippet
< 1393215289 185867 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And make a smaller BIOS code to read them.
< 1393215311 442672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the argument to nanosleep is only a lower bound; when your process actually gets scheduled again is up to the whims of the OS
< 1393215314 668848 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially if it is a code only to use standard input device and standard display, and a built-in Forth interpreter, then other things can be added on afterward.
< 1393215325 349613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also not even a lower bound, because it can be interrupted by a signal
< 1393215332 107944 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nothing
< 1393215351 819903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why there's a second argument from which you can determine how much of the time intervals remains
< 1393215394 742378 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct timespec ts = {...}, rem; while ((nanosleep(&ts, &rem) == -1) && (errno == EINTR)) { memcpy(ts, rem, sizeof(struct timespec); } or some nonsense like that
< 1393215411 456268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNIX
< 1393215532 979569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :memcpy(ts, rem,)?
< 1393215579 318524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? oh can you use the same pointer for both?
< 1393215611 937995 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393215617 385540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'm confused here
< 1393215666 13986 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, ts is a timespec, not a pointer
< 1393215679 572953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just ts = rem or something?
< 1393215798 228798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that this is e. relevant to what you were saying or anything
< 1393215996 405141 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah, use ts= rem so the compiler inserts the memcpy for you :)
< 1393216073 794484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you probably want &s if you're memcpying?
< 1393216295 151922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I forgot the ampersands
< 1393216306 685074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and didn't remember if there's some catch to struct assignment in C
< 1393216312 341802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's prolly ok
< 1393216385 313353 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can assign variables of struct types fine in C
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< 1393216691 317670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: also the time stamp counter read by get_cpu_time() isn't necessarily synchronized between CPUs, and its rate may or may not vary with CPU frequency scaling
< 1393216698 361478 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game I want to stream from an EC2 instance is Worms: Armageddon
< 1393216702 973924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a system call like nanosleep() is a perfect time for the OS to move you between CPUs
< 1393216704 159977 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't exactly require fancy graphics
< 1393216833 270722 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :memcpy seems like a bit of a lie since the values will probably be in registers anyway
< 1393216884 619579 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :regfilecpy
< 1393216966 774410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe not in this case
< 1393217047 432223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not here, yeah, because you need to pass a pointer to the OS
< 1393217583 27376 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1393218024 684103 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if this game rules can be applied to a Go game; it would be really strange, compared to using with chess.  http://www.chessvariants.org/multiplayer.dir/anynumber.html
< 1393218376 123952 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:42] < shachaf> memcpy seems like a bit of a lie since the values will probably be in registers anyway
< 1393218381 683543 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the time you call memcpy it wont be!
< 1393218614 319118 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hofstadter's BlooP is equally powerful without IF, ABORT LOOP, and QUIT BLOCK. In fact, it works even if you also omit multiplication and comparison operators (although comparison operators wouldn't do anything without the IF statement anyways).
< 1393218646 425905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same is not true of FlooP due to the MU-LOOP command.
< 1393218721 616514 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although maybe it is if you still allow ABORT LOOP only for use with MU-LOOPs; I haven't actually proven this, though. Do you know the proof of this?
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< 1393221513 835275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"_C’est la vie_, as Zeno of Citium might have said had French been invented before c. 262 BC."
< 1393221569 955564 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it had been invented, doesn't necessarily mean Zeno might have spoken French.
< 1393221599 466704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but it would surely have improved the chances
< 1393221603 870816 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1393221620 62945 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know how much
< 1393221802 385290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How slow is memcpy, usually?
< 1393224466 707695 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :memcpy is usually pretty optimized..  but how to answer that question?  it depends...
< 1393225362 970807 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean compared to other things, and compared to the length of the data
< 1393225445 678078 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually compilers have special knowledge of memcpy and can turn it into a fully unrolled sequence of movs, or rep movsq on amd64, etc.
< 1393225510 623546 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is also non-x86 computers too, and even if it is x86 it may be 32-bit programs rather than 64-bits, and someone might want to compile for MMIX or JVM, etc
< 1393225686 267595 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most CPUs have movs though
< 1393225690 876240 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except fucking MIPS
< 1393225694 625712 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate MIPS so much
< 1393225746 523984 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it does have lw for memory moving, so nevermind
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< 1393226546 487475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a load/store architecture like most RISC
< 1393226762 390093 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if any flavor of MIPS has a bulk memory copy
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< 1393226896 236570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARM allows to load/store any-ish subset of registers at once, with auto increment/decrement too http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dui0204j/Cihcadda.html
< 1393227749 22473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that sort of feature's often used to implement a fast memcpy, isn't it?
< 1393227774 968549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in particularly, a fast software blit (back in the days before GPUs were common)
< 1393227802 999973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1393227832 305908 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.faqs/ka13544.html
< 1393227836 162564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also register save/restore for functions
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< 1393234501 139813 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly notably, the ARM bulk load/store instructions have been eliminated from the A64 instruction set.
< 1393234528 24447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much like PUSHA/POPA from x86-64, come to think of it.
< 1393234561 49104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The LDM, STM, PUSH and POP instructions do not exist in A64, however bulk transfers can be constructed using the LDP and STP instructions which load and store a pair of independent registers from consecutive memory locations, --"
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< 1393234580 561977 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's from the "ARMv8 Instruction Set Overview".)
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< 1393266427 200924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :find -delete isn't POSIX? :(
< 1393266434 223142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't have nice things
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< 1393267864 251934 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why not use -exec?
< 1393267995 78608 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just more moving parts
< 1393268194 680616 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you just need to put /bin/sh into /usr/bin/find !
< 1393268204 246746 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you already have -delete, now just a few more commands
< 1393268222 807700 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont forget all of the other useful /bin/* tools
< 1393268292 740982 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't -delete needed to stop people screwing around with symlinks?
< 1393268338 568284 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps.  does it keep a handle on the dir its traversing?
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< 1393272231 932887 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd certainly hope "find -delete" runs on unlinkat(2).
< 1393272414 941651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem to be guaranteed in the (GNU findutils find) documentation, though.
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< 1393273211 963426 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like -delete mostly because I still haven't figured out what the -exec syntax is
< 1393273342 189088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's wacky
< 1393273447 303295 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how to use find, at all
< 1393273522 812143 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's a bit like prolog
< 1393273644 769004 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393273680 403842 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like prolog: it's wacky
< 1393273699 330620 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods, takes notes
< 1393273735 873287 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :find even also has a cut operator (not sure if it's similar to prolog's cut though, since I never got the hang of what that really did)
< 1393273908 467682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I want to make a demonstration of logic programming using find
< 1393274096 896524 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: :D i always do "find . | grep filename"
< 1393274139 494688 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: omg, doesn't even handle newlines in file names!
< 1393274170 702978 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i do not have files with newlines when i am looking for something
< 1393274175 512679 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess it i okay
< 1393274187 783370 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won't use that in a public script, though
< 1393274225 354572 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo 'find . -type f |grep "$@"' >~/bin/ff
< 1393274281 102652 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo 'find . -type f -print0 |xargs -0 grep "$@"' >~/bin/fgr
< 1393274310 294382 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: -exec rm {} \;
< 1393274378 894214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fgr for "fucking grep already" i presume
< 1393274383 623085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses ack-grep or git grep
< 1393274438 385739 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :git grep replaced most find/grep combinations I would've done otherwise
< 1393274453 465007 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be also "find-grep" or "file-grep"
< 1393274473 772214 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find/grep lots of src trees that dont belong to me which arent from git
< 1393274549 702205 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "git grep" is too long to type..
< 1393274562 250179 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good guy git grep
< 1393274614 75525 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok this is boring. NEW BORING QUESTION: you all know what a palindromic integer is. what's a palindromic float
< 1393274649 175056 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the last digit of a transcendental number?
< 1393274653 942164 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :irrational number
< 1393274674 314421 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have to be palindromic as a bitstream or as a decimal number?
< 1393274675 284534 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the last digit of "1.0" for that matter?
< 1393274712 203429 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1393274730 327061 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not quizzing you, i'm asking what you think it should be.
< 1393274738 925754 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NaN should be a valid float palindrome :)
< 1393274754 532158 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the typogrpahic sense, i dont think the palindrome should be well defined
< 1393274772 492042 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname++
< 1393274797 844756 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :integers in a given base have a unique typographic notation.
< 1393274804 809961 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reals do not.
< 1393274809 220519 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe infinite, too, if you write it with the symbol
< 1393274817 823158 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite is not a number
< 1393274822 872183 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, 0 is in every case (binary and decimal)
< 1393274825 426965 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.130.150 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a float
< 1393274839 495789 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> reverse "Inf" == "Inf"
< 1393274840 540665 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : False
< 1393274861 823060 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> show (1.0 / 0.0)
< 1393274862 485639 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even as 0.0)
< 1393274862 852594 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Infinity"
< 1393274871 767986 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let inf = show (1.0 / 0.0) in reverse inf == inf
< 1393274872 724814 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : False
< 1393274963 555594 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?let palinfloat x = show x == reverse (show x)
< 1393274964 852626 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1393274971 307660 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> palinfloat 0.0
< 1393274973 366748 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : True
< 1393274979 675771 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> palinfloat 1.1
< 1393274981 165719 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : True
< 1393274984 988043 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> palinfloat 1.09999999999999999999999
< 1393274986 353459 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : True
< 1393275037 410528 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i disagree with the last one
< 1393275067 914223 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: why isn't thehre a lambdabot for xmpp mucs
< 1393275085 34554 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mucs?
< 1393275095 506897 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :multi user chats
< 1393275132 913963 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?faq can haskell code be abstracted so that bots can run across arbitrary chat networks?
< 1393275133 98684 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is: Yes! Haskell can do that.
< 1393275160 758684 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393275172 658558 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there seem to be forks now
< 1393275512 842308 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1.09999999999999999999999
< 1393275513 977914 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.1
< 1393275642 141126 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: also, could find (if you remove some boring things like -exec) be turing complete?
< 1393275643 193506 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1
< 1393275644 158351 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1
< 1393275650 255136 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(perhaps assuming no path length limit)
< 1393275650 842540 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> .99999999999999
< 1393275651 800624 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `.'
< 1393275657 28902 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.99999999999999
< 1393275657 967994 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.99999999999999
< 1393275662 230246 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.999999999999999999999999
< 1393275663 502270 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0
< 1393275670 598817 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393275673 515811 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! 0.999999999999999999999999 != 1
< 1393275696 422360 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> palinfloat 4000.0005
< 1393275698 533313 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : False
< 1393275704 2481 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> palinfloat 4000.0004
< 1393275705 903572 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : True
< 1393275719 767704 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> palinfloat 5000.0005
< 1393275721 36857 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : True
< 1393275785 212030 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1393276027 338278 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what's the widest possible palinfloat?
< 1393276063 386863 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :iunno
< 1393276069 732687 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> palinfloat 5000000.0000005
< 1393276071 550257 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : True
< 1393276078 954824 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> palinfloat 5000000000.0000000005
< 1393276080 282182 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : False
< 1393276094 97645 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :>  5000000000.0000000005
< 1393276095 76403 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5.0e9
< 1393276104 193426 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> palinfloat 500000000.000000005
< 1393276105 564454 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : False
< 1393276110 403937 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 500000000.000000005
< 1393276111 363240 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5.0e8
< 1393276113 509897 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 50000000.00000005
< 1393276114 417190 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5.000000000000005e7
< 1393276120 788429 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> palinfloat 50000000.00000005
< 1393276122 24268 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : False
< 1393276173 913081 :PanamaRed!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393276201 212408 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> palinfloat (50000000.00000005 :: Double)
< 1393276203 151670 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : False
< 1393276210 973085 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what to do with a .cabal file?
< 1393276212 532308 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 7e5000.5
< 1393276213 503686 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (GHC.Num.Num (a -> b0))
< 1393276213 688435 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from the ambiguity check for `e_1750005'
< 1393276213 873312 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (GHC.Real.Fractional (b -> c),
< 1393276213 873495 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :                   GHC.Num.Num (a -> b))
< 1393276213 873586 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   bound by the inferred type for `e_1750005':
< 1393276216 492059 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat that shit
< 1393276246 294316 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 7 * exp 5000.5
< 1393276247 454857 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Infinity
< 1393276274 955900 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense
< 1393276282 263542 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's a pretty nice way of writing infinity
< 1393276778 863238 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 7e5000
< 1393276780 37423 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Infinity
< 1393276802 803561 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :) _
< 1393276803 45495 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: _
< 1393277979 223193 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://qdb.us/309823 You're famous
< 1393278014 931005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1393278053 378140 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it even make sense without context
< 1393280214 529170 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the context?
< 1393280521 844511 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once upon a time, on an IRC channel far, far away. (that, or I don't get it.)
< 1393280690 810516 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1393280929 502143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1393281537 298928 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no gregor bots
< 1393281545 591919 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello help <-- won't work.
< 1393281707 955218 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: maybe you can help out?
< 1393281708 192266 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: used it to build distributable libraries. i already found it. it's an interesting characterisation.. you may pass.
< 1393281710 730258 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least we have fungot
< 1393281710 961870 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: if you put num first, you might want to try to make it
< 1393281721 1871 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :timing!
< 1393281854 766392 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: will you be here for us always?
< 1393281854 951266 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: sorry i'm slow, here.
< 1393281958 597393 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: just take your time
< 1393281959 52241 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you wont have to bother packaging riatables for debian separately. :) at least i haven't seen any doomsday fnord in the last two black pieces and subtract the numbers on each row is being listed with the quotes
< 1393281998 637558 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: tell me more about this doomsday fnord
< 1393281998 828183 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i could be wrong, but the drum and bass is at http://jungletrain.net.
< 1393282029 131069 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1393282205 831937 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393283476 165199 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393283747 163749 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1393283953 856262 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393284351 766058 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393284376 514893 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: have you firewalled your coffee machine?
< 1393284376 700175 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i want to get
< 1393284389 156445 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you disappoint me
< 1393284389 341259 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i was wowing the yowing. i'd like to use sxml document transforms.
< 1393284615 853254 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1393285558 41324 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.130.150 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg
< 1393285563 877015 :PanamaRed!45e42b5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.228.43.90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1393285607 991525 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393288762 880630 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393288955 918263 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1393289141 931369 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1393289216 925637 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393289898 456348 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi!
< 1393289898 641305 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it suddenly occurred to me
< 1393289904 428702 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: likewise.
< 1393289904 613997 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: interesting, but sounds hard to do
< 1393289917 371993 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it's quite easy, if you practice enough.
< 1393289917 670876 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: why does he want to do. i.e. you can't do a length and then a srfi 7* program would be faster, but it
< 1393289925 385281 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: but it what?
< 1393289925 786731 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/ files/ in at most two digits"... hmm, apparently there are parents in the us it is very rare. there are an estimated"
< 1393289936 842075 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :parents? in this chännel?
< 1393290590 863756 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393291161 893562 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1393291572 311873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol #dogecoin is bigger than #python
< 1393291584 911055 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn right
< 1393291594 418346 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1393291960 833080 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393291961 57787 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1393292690 535281 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I finally found a situation where  if (foo() == false)  is arguably preferable to  if (!foo())
< 1393292705 589490 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O
< 1393292826 575853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (astNode.getValue() == false)  where astNode represents a Boolean literal in the syntax of some language we're compiling
< 1393292842 480158 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha!
< 1393292892 167140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a quoted false in a sense. one might even call it metacircular :O
< 1393292934 941839 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course having an imperatively-named "getValue" method on an object representing an AST node is awful, but that's not up to me
< 1393292955 910986 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION -> afk
< 1393293273 980971 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the False that can be Truthed is not the True False.
< 1393293562 367063 :filo3sofie!filo3sofie@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-eijvdypttpygslve NICK :Tolstoy
< 1393293675 870709 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393293679 497890 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai pplz
< 1393293698 730709 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do any of you want to hear some acapella music I made?
< 1393293749 624158 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the second half of the Family Guy theme.
< 1393293838 680402 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.mediafire.com/?a7hjyi1ifocas27
< 1393293847 480788 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If any of you want to listen.
< 1393294292 251669 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
< 1393294442 790961 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1393294510 537214 :jhj!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa NICK :trn
< 1393294536 209646 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393294571 869387 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: POLARIZED SYNCHRONIZED PARTICULAR CHICKEN
< 1393295215 943479 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1393295261 562953 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393295604 596905 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1393295711 832208 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393295906 747751 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem!
< 1393295981 91548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393295991 50540 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1393296009 185050 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1393297109 191375 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393297154 141720 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393297154 326605 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1393297607 171638 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1393297709 780344 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393297713 489779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you design a RPG computer game in SQL?
< 1393297732 309840 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, because I fail at any task assigned to me.
< 1393297775 113993 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK, then don't do it by yourself.
< 1393297794 94196 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to program in SQL, or how to design a computer RPG game, whether or not you can actually do either?
< 1393297829 882300 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, because my mind is a broad sieve.
< 1393297852 129473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you die messily in a painful way?
< 1393297862 381019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just checking the general state here)
< 1393297894 822059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps, with the correct tools, but, I am not dead!
< 1393297926 624781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a zzombie, check
< 1393298366 876664 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1393298382 885636 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393298735 611178 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393298937 809077 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1393299084 145799 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you watching the fireworks?
< 1393300212 904253 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoin fireworks?
< 1393300228 746750 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393300239 723459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we lost HackEgo in the Great Netsplit of 2014
< 1393300244 481762 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1393300354 763304 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah
< 1393300432 413136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's it crashing? mtgox finally kicked the bucket?
< 1393300735 619833 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like.
< 1393300753 412881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MtGox Resigns From Bitcoin Foundation, Deletes All Tweets From Twitter Feed"
< 1393300844 494086 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: they also halted trading
< 1393300850 607605 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and blanked out their homepage just now
< 1393300863 635436 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a fake-looking (but who knows) document floating around that says they lose all their coins
< 1393300871 212781 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :so everyone is freaking out
< 1393300942 35098 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where does one watch the fireworks?
< 1393300956 530404 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :##mtgox-chat or #bitcoin if you really want noise
< 1393301194 955230 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this is a representation of the fireworks. http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg2ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv
< 1393301290 304363 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up some more chess variant:  http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MScatschess
< 1393301292 330919 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitcoinbuilder/GOXBTC
< 1393301297 463929 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a reasonable representation of some of the fireworks
< 1393301315 140505 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: heh
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< 1393301814 302739 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was power failure
< 1393301842 394415 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :UPS?
< 1393301938 885772 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought one a couple days ago. They are nice to have.
< 1393302250 471044 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a surge protector but the battery doesn't work.
< 1393302282 955103 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could not see the stars because the street lights were still working.
< 1393302444 330534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"GOXBTC" lolol
< 1393302448 959546 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :discount bitcoins
< 1393302459 867759 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1393302469 609791 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :good measure of current trust :)
< 1393302560 263539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: so for things to get this way, I assume there are difficulties moving BTC in/out of Gox, as well as USD
< 1393302575 704972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the exchange is insolvent?
< 1393302577 885195 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :only out
< 1393302582 702872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah ok ;)
< 1393302584 123904 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, people speculate that they're insolvent
< 1393302591 818245 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems pretty likely at this point
< 1393302681 220922 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :daddy
< 1393302690 796898 :daddy!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin
< 1393302697 470306 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daddy?
< 1393302836 214308 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1393302989 474830 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do people ever get interested in non-live game streams?
< 1393302996 81484 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to try streaming some Worm Olympics
< 1393303068 660248 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We call that "Let's Play"
< 1393303136 275130 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s a function of how interested i’m of the game itself and how entertaining your commentary is.
< 1393303168 865746 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393303238 824483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone wanted to video my game too, but someone else said, it should be someone who want to injure himself with a knife, since those people should play my game instead.
< 1393303283 968063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1393303364 223256 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
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< 1393304514 276783 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the functors/monads/etc used in Haskell programming are also applicable to arbitrary categories.
< 1393304553 961011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as, the constant functor, is compatible with any category.
< 1393304593 299443 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are some other ones which I did not know of?
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< 1393312963 919544 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :
< 1393314376 748718 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :David Griffiths Lecture, Techfest 2012, IIT Bombay http://youtu.be/FY076-fEZ-s
< 1393316103 839595 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
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< 1393317837 448545 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393321038 242115 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
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< 1393322459 54644 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
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< 1393323153 87654 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order to encode some text the following table is in use:   http://sprunge.us/gESV    Is there a more efficient way to do the same thing instead of reading the table and interpreting the "instructions" in the table?
< 1393324274 810188 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
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< 1393325272 282380 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: are you asking whether the table can be compressed?
< 1393325521 783978 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-161-205.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393325546 85612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: No, but whether the program to read the table can be made more efficient.
< 1393325629 333702 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-161-205.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1393325886 340504 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1393325996 348612 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not sure we've got enough context here. As far as I can make out, you have to read the thing, scan for occurrences of double quotes, and put the stuff between those quotes into successive entries of an array.
< 1393326071 447187 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393326134 298571 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-161-205.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: brb
< 1393326144 855810 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-161-205.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393326153 665433 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In this particular table, you can also predict the offsets of those double quotes without much effort.)
< 1393326382 808211 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393326591 914969 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1393327271 475982 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: No, it automatically figures out the offsets.
< 1393327293 127022 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the double quotes aren't actually part of the table, nor are the spaces; they are just used to arrange it to display.
< 1393327367 420776 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll vote for "lack of context" then.
< 1393327501 532499 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wolfram Language is scary
< 1393327551 881365 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1393328939 902332 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
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< 1393337367 343216 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
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< 1393338830 828250 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
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< 1393339249 688450 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-52.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host
< 1393339249 873337 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393339267 856689 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393339273 909945 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha omg mtgox is down
< 1393339278 68314 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's happening, finally
< 1393339598 726628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: look at the page source
< 1393339730 863949 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1393339736 535254 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is acq short for 'acquirement' or something
< 1393339756 521621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :acquisition
< 1393339759 56597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course
< 1393339759 688086 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1393339788 816669 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently they disabled withdrawals some time before this happened though (/r/bitcoin is *hilarious* right now)
< 1393339862 206661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that was a while ago
< 1393339891 878789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon is probably a good time to buy BTC, by the way
< 1393340211 397816 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming it'll go up again
< 1393340261 152351 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the ecosystem might've moved away from mtgox enough to absorb the shock if it's been that dire for that long, though
< 1393340289 141115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, mtgox had fiat problems much before it had btc problems
< 1393340310 51773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it makes sense for it to crash permanently because of this, but maybe people are panicky enough for it to
< 1393340342 705169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, anyone with BTC in mtgox was already worried they might not really have that cash any more by this point?
< 1393340352 1149 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1393340371 531902 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, there goes my dream of watching bitcoin burn
< 1393340712 168254 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow even in these dark times /r/bitcoin continues to MEANWHILE: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yutdk/we_are_witnessing_the_failure_of_a_company_the/
< 1393341947 257355 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they'll reopen the magic the gathering online exchange
< 1393341964 600320 :JZTech101!~JZTech101@botters/jztech101 QUIT :Quit: Now what?
< 1393341980 187310 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that seemed like a sound business to me ... ;-) )
< 1393342270 863778 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, xkcd ... "webring" ... that brings back memories.
< 1393342689 830636 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :god, remember when what-if was interesting?
< 1393342765 96893 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it wasn't just a bunch of dry calculations to establish whether or not there are enough elephants to make an interplanetary burger chain
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< 1393343798 99541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393345478 214631 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu NICK :Bike
< 1393345623 909372 :password2!~password@197.78.165.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
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< 1393345982 400998 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: this gets funnier and funnier the more i think about it
< 1393346456 896705 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393346545 905490 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what page source?
< 1393346583 29145 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see anything particularily odd in the source of mtgox.com
< 1393346709 860337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was changed
< 1393346712 459609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to have a comment saying like
< 1393346717 169508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fill in mtgox acquisition announcement here
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< 1393347537 989704 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
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< 1393347824 817607 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
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< 1393348000 550954 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you hear about the part where they supposedly lost hundreds of millions of dollars through shit security
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< 1393349763 694398 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I asked the people who configure my DNS to make a TXT record, he said it doesn't have a field to tell you what subdomain to associate it to.
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< 1393350450 245372 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde98d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.141 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
< 1393350514 723730 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case it helps, it is registered with GoDaddy.
< 1393350564 158220 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1393350565 764913 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
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< 1393350804 892825 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai pplz
< 1393350806 33283 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ELECTIVE Slustio
< 1393350839 970053 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/
< 1393350853 524258 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not understand.
< 1393350853 709261 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the bot doesn't work.
< 1393350866 256107 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ELECTIVE Slustio was my Captchka.
< 1393350876 752899 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, I tested that \o/ thing.
< 1393350884 861961 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where a bot would make the rest of the body.
< 1393350917 775130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah.
< 1393350925 926148 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't that used to be active?
< 1393350938 670671 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like this:
< 1393350941 662081 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/
< 1393350944 289435 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  |
< 1393350961 30999 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|\
< 1393350964 425090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know if that is the correct syntax.
< 1393350970 63899 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, I didn't get it right.
< 1393350978 915307 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be arms of some sort.
< 1393350985 57881 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\\o/
< 1393350990 759161 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_o_
< 1393350996 87242 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grrrr....
< 1393350997 59771 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen that some internet services at hotels and some stuff will not work except for DNS requests, until you pay. (In some the DNS might not work either) Can we serve the files through DNS records?
< 1393351007 195331 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1393351013 626138 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea what that is. :p
< 1393351016 824042 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393351022 172530 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai Slereah
< 1393351031 157388 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1393351041 589575 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see that myname is on here.
< 1393351042 658286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a script, not a bot \o/
< 1393351047 673954 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's not a work.
< 1393351067 131298 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same guy that made the MarioLANG interpreter and BF-MarioLANG converter, right?
< 1393351069 578364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it hasn't always worked at the beginning of a line, anyway.
< 1393351072 457436 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname?
< 1393351079 896931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, myndzi.
< 1393351089 35271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Close, though.
< 1393351090 633822 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because didn
< 1393351097 712974 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t myname do something like that?
< 1393351106 683531 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He did the interpreter, yes.
< 1393351117 142194 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note to self: Never press enter before ending message
< 1393351117 745347 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :)
< 1393351122 234501 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the \o/ script was myndzi's.
< 1393351138 377298 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah.
< 1393351586 343282 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.130.150 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393351761 927395 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.130.150 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1393352011 847573 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys?
< 1393352047 874861 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that, every 7.79 seconds, an American Saggitarius named Amelia drinks a soda?
< 1393352100 473725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure i read that somewhere recently.
< 1393352114 902065 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com ?
< 1393352127 986626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty good guess.
< 1393352143 139490 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coz that's where I got it from.
< 1393352174 444651 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every 42.05 seconds, someone buys "To Kill a Mockingbird".
< 1393352189 304261 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every 1.82 seconds, a cat actually kills a mockingbird.
< 1393352220 931151 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD
< 1393352222 603879 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring.
< 1393352229 257066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing that annoyed me about that one was that they were not ordered by frequency, so i had no idea how long to wait for some of them.
< 1393352249 23516 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you should parse the gif files
< 1393352278 285005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as if that could decrease annoyance.
< 1393352290 435165 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is a table: http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1331
< 1393352468 29958 :Tolstoy!filo3sofie@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-eijvdypttpygslve QUIT :Ping timeout: 279 seconds
< 1393352492 73479 :herny!d96f58f2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.111.88.242 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
< 1393352609 658289 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-155.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393352637 354552 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Whenever you edit wikipedia, God kills a human."
< 1393352693 960357 :filo3sofie!filo3sofie@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-fshzcaystqxnbryz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393352952 194153 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1393353252 859009 :MoALTz__!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: brb
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< 1393353385 309330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1393353563 890831 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1393353706 138390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: whither HackEgo?
< 1393353951 854023 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1393355105 901594 :jose3!~jose2@230.Red-88-26-221.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393355119 542851 :jose3!~jose2@230.Red-88-26-221.staticIP.rima-tde.net PART :#esoteric
< 1393355380 490199 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.130.150 NICK :nooodl
< 1393355749 105898 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: just look at the decoding in http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1331
< 1393355786 223958 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I mean, come on, for more than a year now Randall doesn't write proper transcripts of his comics, but the explainxkcd community does, so look at there for anything like this
< 1393355871 826014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Why are you (a) repeating a link that was just pasted, and (b) to a different person than the one who asked? 
< 1393355888 68549 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: argh
< 1393355902 552909 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see it was pasted, and yes, wrong nick
< 1393355903 444020 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry
< 1393355952 274313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess the latter is explained by oerjan sneakily sneaking out in the meanwhile.)
< 1393356440 915641 :password2!~password@197.78.190.189 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393356806 294516 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: now I know :) out of curiosity, what did oerjan ask?
< 1393356853 11046 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: < oerjan> the thing that annoyed me about that one was that they were not ordered by frequency, so i had no idea how long to wait for some of them.
< 1393356857 907022 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: that's what he asked about that xkcd strip
< 1393357036 583441 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm, dogecoin explained: http://i.imgur.com/rPltYqf.gif
< 1393357426 407631 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393357732 4131 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393357754 680213 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: coins?
< 1393357754 865280 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what version of stalin is that from? i don't understand
< 1393357970 873599 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393358028 663878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :checking whether the C compiler works... no
< 1393358053 392819 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it still consider your environment "sane"?
< 1393358062 328238 :JZTech101!~JZTech101@botters/jztech101 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393358090 27910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1393358096 124486 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an android cross compile so i hope not
< 1393358113 104838 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393358144 373794 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, through autotools? didn't think you could do that
< 1393358162 863086 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1393358185 34298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? autotools supports cross compile yeah
< 1393358512 184161 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393358551 15919 :password2!~password@197.78.190.189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
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< 1393358807 608426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fontconfig was only made thread-safe last year :/
< 1393359141 331714 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1393359286 536146 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393359487 754828 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1393359619 943470 :nisstyre_!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393360871 944028 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
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< 1393362945 740867 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393363075 910541 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393363311 399752 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.114.212 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
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< 1393363458 755920 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
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< 1393363641 924613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/02/24/steve-jobs-statue-unveiled-ahead-of-installation-at-apples-cupertino-hq
< 1393363754 241898 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393363788 699511 :JZTech101!~JZTech101@botters/jztech101 QUIT :Quit: Now what?
< 1393363800 992372 :JZTech101!~JZTech101@botters/jztech101 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393363863 347850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fatal: You are on a branch yet to be born
< 1393363873 919805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nature.com/news/publishers-withdraw-more-than-120-gibberish-papers-1.14763   SCIgen hasbeen busy
< 1393363886 414356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :fatal: You are on a branch yet to be born
< 1393363889 59739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er
< 1393363897 511965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :fatal: You are on a branch yet to be born | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/
< 1393364008 447729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You should try writing a paper about something.
< 1393364009 83056 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i entered nonlogic because it was quite cool. but i'm not on irc, and that's irrelevant.
< 1393364070 93803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You certainly *seem* to be on irc.
< 1393364070 482336 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's like sooo much better than that, though rather painful and my nose is both clogged annoyingly runny.
< 1393364092 748743 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay then.
< 1393364199 940526 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :clogged and runny, p. good combo
< 1393364288 471866 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what were you trying to do? maybe birth the branch before somethinging it
< 1393364316 786888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just trying to fix my makefile :<
< 1393364555 240260 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1393364696 912704 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i like how we can't even be sure we've got all the scigen. they walk among us, unseen
< 1393364740 266967 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell phantom_hoover shit security, bad investments in insolvent mortgages... pretty much the same, right?
< 1393364740 452096 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1393364792 348964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you tried bonghits
< 1393364914 59797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this chess variant (one of the forms of Shatranj Kamil)?   http://www.chessvariants.org/historic.dir/tamerlane.html
< 1393365080 584696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not yet
< 1393365086 190065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm at work you know
< 1393365097 459820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if they want that makefile fixed...
< 1393365367 942072 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: a paper on nonlogic, eh?
< 1393365368 126949 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: heh then it's not defining it they're free to argue with that.
< 1393365542 519522 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-155.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1393365798 442659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How come you sound somehow different than the usual irc style? 
< 1393365798 711789 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this would be good to write a scheme program in terms of a compiler than manual memory management
< 1393365883 861367 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1393365918 178771 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393366451 607937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked before about strings searching, but really what I need is one that has multiple search strings, that search strings are preprocessed, and that the text to search in isn't preprocessed. I found some things about this in Wikipedia, but do you have more advice?
< 1393366645 310646 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would Commentz-Walter be better, or something else?
< 1393367152 848401 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393367432 118225 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
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< 1393367914 571427 :MoALTz_!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393368010 686929 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1393368070 587447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393368072 77882 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iotakercoin lahalixcoin karuacoin isccoin ><>coin lifecoin minifucoin slasscoin pasycoin etasismcoin eeblanzcoin wpcftioncitcoin owpcoin inscrecoin galcoin iricoin dhgcoin sincoin compcoin brackcoin
< 1393368072 939643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay
< 1393368300 717595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :inscrecoin
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< 1393369212 187359 :nisstyre_!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3
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< 1393369626 366828 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1yvczv/stephen_wolfram_introduces_the_wolfram_language/cfo7o8c
< 1393370438 808703 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-16357.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
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< 1393370822 257037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at Wolfram Language; now they even say, the ARM version of Mathematica is now free of charge, and even the computer costs less than using the other computer.
< 1393370924 755141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, it is slower than the normal version.
< 1393371189 531870 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how big is the set of strings to search for?
< 1393371290 945144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: At most 96 entries, although probably smaller.
< 1393371302 9023 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The exact number of strings to search for is unknown.
< 1393371350 389247 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there are probably going to be many occurences of the search strings in the text.
< 1393371592 434329 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.130.150 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg
< 1393371682 187508 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393371700 802581 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: The purpose of this is for compression.
< 1393371835 872538 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking maybe you could put the strings to search for in a trie and step down the trie for each character you match..
< 1393371975 258558 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it would. I would need to be sufficiently fast, as the amount of text to search in is probably going to be very large though.
< 1393372018 714128 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393372034 485424 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome backego
< 1393372077 346428 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The character codes only go up to 163, if that helps at all, although many of the codes aren't used. (There are actually some other character codes but they are ignored for purposes of compression.)
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< 1393372190 420850 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1393372291 816309 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393372435 641854 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/d158fc7f36a25e19791d25a55da5623399a2644f/fs/ext4/resize.c#L698
< 1393372589 536114 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.<
< 1393372645 894436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad that Rust allows debug-printing of any value, even though this breaks encapsulation and parametricity and makes baby jesus cry
< 1393372648 934798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fucking useful
< 1393372675 973949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC kind of has this via its "debugger" feature
< 1393372799 255601 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote desert
< 1393372799 479613 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :EvilTerran says: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the phantom types began to take hold.
< 1393372812 942993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that kind of thing should just exist in an unsafe module
< 1393372817 342875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and be standard in the REPL
< 1393372819 348479 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the desert quote I was looking for though
< 1393372839 223200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good quote tho
< 1393372843 59721 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote oasis
< 1393372843 244812 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :chromatic says: My productivity increased when Autrijus told me about Haskell's trace function. He called it a refreshing desert in the oasis of referential transparency.
< 1393372943 845922 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat, looks like chrome will actually keep allocating all available memory when you feed it infinite iframes
< 1393372996 999389 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: _any_ value?
< 1393373049 98549 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :believe so... fmt!("{:?}", x)
< 1393373062 750539 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful syntax there
< 1393373086 555847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not always /useful/ but it at least pulls apart structs, enums, etc
< 1393373100 735401 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1393373144 129615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the format string syntax is close to Python's iirc (the newer syntax not the old printf-style one)
< 1393373178 354527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to rant so much about how format strings are terrible but I've sort of come around because of how important they are to internationalization
< 1393373196 7622 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393373220 25630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that includes things like reordering parameters, which printf-style can't do (or can it, there's some scary shit in there)
< 1393373326 688729 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think gettext has something like that, %$1s or whatever the syntax was
< 1393373365 176948 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom
< 1393373365 894741 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/
< 1393373368 268387 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah!
< 1393373377 32295 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good existential-Gregor evening!
< 1393373414 523760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ah
< 1393373432 776736 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393373658 115098 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello. what were the emotions I was supposed to suffer from the other day?
< 1393374426 575900 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.114.212 QUIT :Quit: impomatic
< 1393374479 400222 :MoALTz_!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1393374636 407604 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume bitcoins are at a low these days?
< 1393374649 377828 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOnder if they'll recover. Almost tempting to buy a bit
< 1393374711 340733 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would /r/bitcoin do?
< 1393374819 214267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: me too
< 1393374826 820702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: mortgage their houses to buy more bitcoins
< 1393374851 444406 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, guess buying from Mt.Gox isn't really an option
< 1393374861 265583 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed
< 1393374864 519516 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are other exchanges though
< 1393374874 394158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's already recovered a lot from yesterday's crash
< 1393374881 567868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bitcoinity.org/markets
< 1393374903 11645 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can find some information about some string searching algorithms in Wikipedia, but some of them don't give enough details.
< 1393374904 505814 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/lolphp/comments/1yvm6v/php_can_do_anything_what_about_some_ssh_mtgox/
< 1393375060 875901 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393375069 789228 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai pplz
< 1393375085 307121 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinshellow23.
< 1393375157 46505 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily?
< 1393375165 671879 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello JWinslow23 
< 1393375166 466642 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslellow23
< 1393375172 365617 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you wanna hear acapella music I made?
< 1393375192 826318 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Family Guy Theme.
< 1393375205 597568 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently on the phone with my mom, but I could listen to it later.
< 1393375211 194651 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK.
< 1393375215 190994 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily?
< 1393375221 242289 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23?
< 1393375226 355660 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just bookmark http://www.mediafire.com/listen/a7hjyi1ifocas27/FamilyGuyJosiahW.wav for later.
< 1393375232 625804 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I multitracked my voice.
< 1393375341 389849 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Maybe I shouldn't trust any exchanges with CC info
< 1393375425 494813 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai Sgeo
< 1393375429 244286 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi
< 1393375434 616791 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm playing JS1K demos.
< 1393375451 691164 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whaddaya think of "Avoid the Pink"? http://js1k.com/2014-dragons/demo/1698
< 1393375478 943247 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no laggin' with "Flappy Dragon"! http://js1k.com/2014-dragons/demo/1659
< 1393375510 215774 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's difficult
< 1393375536 707959 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to rhyme the names all the time.
< 1393375544 338346 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Avoid the pink is well written.
< 1393375548 946548 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I could swear there were a million Flappy Bird like games before Flappy Bird, just with more connected tunnel
< 1393375604 994307 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I believe you
< 1393375703 326710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, possibly, not quite one million.
< 1393375788 340098 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there were tunnel games beforehand.
< 1393375792 204334 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it is just that.
< 1393375944 754987 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why is everyone obsessed with this one particular one?
< 1393376033 374317 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of word of mouth...
< 1393376038 506060 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...good graphics...
< 1393376040 253601 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and...
< 1393376043 45862 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...BOTS.
< 1393376044 377671 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs
< 1393376077 994174 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It existed a year before it became popular.
< 1393376121 178158 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why is this MTG person talkijng about you?
< 1393376122 125043 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"double sleeve, kmc perfect fits, kmc hyper mattes. deckbox or ultra pro sideloading binder."
< 1393376134 807384 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1ywtxp/people_with_p9_and_other_expensive_cards_how_do/cfogm7v
< 1393376151 529951 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the exterior a product the disposition and the specification is changed...
< 1393376156 184745 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...EXCUSE us!
< 1393376159 572792 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD
< 1393376573 338360 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is still on the phone, but with a friend.
< 1393376587 20891 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and chatting with two other people at the same time, and being on IRC too.
< 1393376592 522466 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM TOO SOCIAL! AAAAAAAARGH!
< 1393377038 983688 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to make a Flappy Bird clone for Atari.
< 1393377087 151458 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make up the clone for Famicom?
< 1393377295 127964 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno a language that compiles for Famicom. :p
< 1393377368 838889 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use a variation of MagicKit.
< 1393377386 431378 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: it's 6502 assembly, slightly reduced.
< 1393377395 206677 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know it. :p
< 1393377397 84566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decimal mode doesn't work.
< 1393377401 7984 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know Batari Basic.
< 1393377429 992177 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: it is knowable. inhale the Knowledge. ask Someone who made actual assembly programs. (ie. not me.)
< 1393377439 908466 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK.
< 1393377448 205619 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a BASIC interpreter for Famicom too
< 1393377538 734211 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever someone says «OK», I read it as «O KAY», while hearing it in my head with oerjan's voice.
< 1393377603 565812 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oreja?
< 1393377610 673462 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ear)
< 1393377696 301512 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he he he. that's a subtle one :D
< 1393377724 142349 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oreillan.
< 1393377750 177836 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan you are not a Spanish ear. rest assured.
< 1393377750 399156 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1393377768 319714 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1393379671 286842 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CYS-HIS-ILE-CYS-LYS-GLU-ASN
< 1393379673 876149 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1393379757 424974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if GCC supports declaring anonymous unions at top-level code?
< 1393379817 852746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be a useful thing to have.
< 1393379862 862990 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be an easy test
< 1393379988 111566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately it doesn't work properly.
< 1393380048 634740 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not define an anonymous global variable. I want to do it so that it is like a union { ... } which is defined inside of a struct { ... } so it defines global variables that share memory with other ones.
< 1393380061 733636 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, an array.
< 1393380103 436039 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also get a "expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'static'" error message.
< 1393380460 949934 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393380717 55465 :filo3sofie!filo3sofie@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-fshzcaystqxnbryz NICK :vagabondo
< 1393380728 982012 :vagabondo!filo3sofie@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-fshzcaystqxnbryz PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
< 1393380904 388270 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try to wrap my mind around Idris
< 1393380931 332352 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I kind of get the oh/so True/choose thing
< 1393381060 464459 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it only really clicked after reading mailing list posts
< 1393381070 681372 :matrice64!~matrice64@c-68-52-228-158.hsd1.tn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393381071 997121 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which isn't to say that it actually clicked fully
< 1393381087 13229 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there not a regex for "the same character, twice"
< 1393381088 840332 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel dumb
< 1393381165 159559 :matrice64!~matrice64@c-68-52-228-158.hsd1.tn.comcast.net PART :#esoteric
< 1393381203 32525 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wonder if that would make it able to process some not regular languages
< 1393381211 218408 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, possibly an extension of the usual regex syntax?
< 1393381221 66161 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :welll you can do it with backtracking obviously
< 1393381227 925091 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm thinking about actual regular languages
< 1393381265 579985 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's regular? i mean aa is obviously a regex, and so's bb, and so's (aa)|(bb), and you then just extend it to all characters of the alphabet.
< 1393381301 677387 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it won't work if the alphabet is infinite
< 1393381312 584294 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the the function is interesting, in the sense that it's a function where Haskell would use syntax
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< 1393383433 2244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can it be made a chess variant (or other games) like that one?    http://www.chessvariants.org/404.jpg
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< 1393383586 339818 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so you want two global variables which occupy the same space?
< 1393383616 280935 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid puzzle, making me wish i had a phrase dictionary to grep
< 1393383628 379797 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how many 404 are in there. There's the dice + O, which I find amusing
< 1393383655 860189 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :abcd cb abcd
< 1393383718 58627 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes.
< 1393383772 550415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: The black and white stones near the top make 404 in binary numbers
< 1393383776 673225 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god i was thinking of a union-like thing and somehow was thinking cobol instead of c does this mean c is bad if a c feature made me think cobol
< 1393383801 570228 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c is bad, so yes
< 1393383822 883217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The stones on the bottom spell "ERROR" in Morse code.
< 1393383840 376489 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: neat (at both)
< 1393383867 436019 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I just noticed these things now, actually)
< 1393384111 431628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so where are anonymous unions allowed? only within other structs/unions?
< 1393384152 569854 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, inside of other structs/unions they are allowed, and can be useful, even if they are empty, which is also allowed.
< 1393384166 109056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how useful empty?
< 1393384199 713273 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They aren't usually useful empty, but it can sometimes be used if you just want the type but no data.
< 1393384210 893566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if you need to put data but none is needed.
< 1393384231 415795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes you may want a zero-length type for whatever reason.
< 1393384304 598792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do something like this maybe https://gist.github.com/kmcallister/9222833
< 1393384325 758308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if this violates GCC's aliasing rules or whatever else
< 1393384338 84723 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the haps my friends
< 1393384346 969797 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit messages
< 1393384354 414991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh in fact it doesn't work with -O2 ;P
< 1393384362 239887 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but I need variables of different sizes, some of which are arrays, and some of which also contain structures. (Well, I *don't* need any such things, but I do have uses for such things.)
< 1393384372 276248 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes Bike they are the same
< 1393384755 723297 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn right
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< 1393385020 746487 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anonymous structures are also allowed in other structs/unions.
< 1393385032 460521 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I have them nested struct/union/struct/union/etc
< 1393385041 617605 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although usually not that much!)
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< 1393385807 590707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the point of an anonymous struct inside a struct?
< 1393385920 879383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :today I got into a discussion about C++ and I claimed that exceptions require far more runtime support than any other C++ feature, but is it true?
< 1393385952 322766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can compile exceptions in a way that doesn't require much runtime support but it slows down your code everywhere, which is also unlike most C++ features
< 1393385959 204557 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other features require nontrivial runtime support beyond what's in libc?
< 1393385994 55710 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, there *are* global initializers, but that's quite simple to support.
< 1393386163 28571 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can still assign to/from an entire anonymous struct?
< 1393386164 773004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, generally you alternate between structs and unions inside of each other.
< 1393386174 325218 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. Anonymous. Right.
< 1393386178 731933 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh.
< 1393386187 278817 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really weird alignment shenanigans?
< 1393386286 306178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks about whether RTTI requires anything nontrivial at runtime
< 1393386295 960566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's usually just accessing tables output by the compiler
< 1393386359 751806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :new[] / delete[] require the allocator to keep track of the number of elements somewhere
< 1393386396 326818 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd call that pretty trivial though.
< 1393386456 150200 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in "literally just a matter of having operator new[] allocate space for an extra size_t"
< 1393386534 71592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1393386657 868538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the C++ FAQ claims that some compilers store the count in a separate hashtable instead http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq/num-elems-in-new-array-assocarray.html
< 1393386671 293877 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... but... why?!?
< 1393386682 469836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes it less bad to mix up delete and delete[] I guess
< 1393386766 812459 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could solve this by making operator new/delete do the same. :)
< 1393386786 207100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :store the count? sure, that wastes a word per allocatoun though
< 1393386812 66535 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course then mixing up malloc/free and new/delete is dangerous, unless libc and libc++ cooperate.
< 1393386847 968562 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If libc and libc++ cooperate then it probably doesn't. (it's pretty likely malloc already does just that)
< 1393386854 554199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines an implementation where objects allocated with new get an (address/required_alignment) which is even and objects allocated with new[] get an odd one
< 1393386870 335485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: already stores the size?
< 1393386873 793882 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(alternately C++ could implement its own allocator rather than using C's.)
< 1393386910 406873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can also overload operator new etc., which is part of why mixing them up is bad
< 1393386921 497848 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah...
< 1393386936 909247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you have an object where individual allocations come from a pool and arrays don't
< 1393386947 9251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ is on-topic in the esolangs channel, right?
< 1393386953 547651 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some mallocs do actually store the exact size.
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< 1393386972 863975 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think on Linux it's more common to not though...
< 1393386973 345138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the size requested by the application?
< 1393386985 529859 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm, no, it would almost never be that.
< 1393386997 630129 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Size actually used by the allocation, sure, but not that.
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< 1393387014 954098 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :word-per-alloc is probably not a huge cost though.
< 1393387025 687338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure...
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< 1393387034 543118 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely the C++ designers felt it was unacceptable to impose this cost
< 1393387066 739341 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, obviously. Otherwise they would have had delete work on new[]'d things.
< 1393387131 126251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has written C++ for a machine with 64 bytes of RAM
< 1393387135 137862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I wasn't using new/delete...
< 1393387150 575338 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just tried to explain continuous chess while drunk
< 1393387154 157260 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it went surprisingly well
< 1393387162 871715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :continuous chess-boxing
< 1393387177 736156 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Course, at that point you're really writing a really weird dialect of C. :P
< 1393387195 568598 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. I would hope.
< 1393387209 763597 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically you still have a lot of C++'s goodies, like templates and such.
< 1393387217 493490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep!
< 1393387225 531363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I came up with an excuse to use templates
< 1393387265 504984 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you could probably manage to have an object or two.
< 1393387278 613245 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(global, of course)
< 1393387279 346233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I did (no virtual methods though)
< 1393387292 455364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or on the stack, if they're small enough
< 1393387294 38644 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(... or on the stack, *shrug*)
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< 1393387341 5716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, you need special instructions to read/write data from flash; perhaps that would be a compelling use case for a smart pointer class template
< 1393387361 29635 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and similar for arrays)
< 1393387367 605941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C and C++ have some bad features compared to BLISS.
< 1393387374 391164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_____________^
< 1393387454 331237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, reading anyway; supporting writing that way is probably a bad idea)
< 1393387457 149833 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For any language, some feature of C or C++ is notably worse than in that language. :P
< 1393387514 250434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird how e.g. you don't get to overload operator[] separately for reads and writes; rather you have to return a reference or some kind of object with an operator= and the right kind of implicit conversion
< 1393387541 287058 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although C does have some good features too. Unfortunately I cannot find a BLISS compiler.
< 1393387551 140354 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: horrifying you mean
< 1393387551 833495 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1393387557 230131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the good features of C is that you can get compilers for it
< 1393387565 979092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although this is also the cause of a lot of problems in the world
< 1393387726 624395 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. C runs everywhere.
< 1393387734 998112 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For certain notions of "C".
< 1393387735 741462 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1393387735 973803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :straight into walls
< 1393387810 881684 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, it is good that there is a lot of C compiler, so it help, to write C programs running on many computer.
< 1393387897 724522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  C and C++ have some bad features compared to BLISS.   Although C does have some good features too. Unfortunately I cannot find a BLISS compiler.
< 1393387899 599675 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1169)  C and C++ have some bad features compared to BLISS.   Although C does have some good features too. Unfortunately I cannot find a BLISS compiler.
< 1393387934 649186 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I have a documentation of BLISS; it looks to have some very good features which nobody has ever implemented in any newer programming languages.
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< 1393388067 668864 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever looked at it at all?
< 1393388072 919919 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia also has a article about it.
< 1393388498 863014 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLISS_(programming_language)
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< 1393388572 946540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the best features?
< 1393388656 223852 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I found a BLISS compiler that targets LLVM.
< 1393388770 706053 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Macros, and the way the assignment syntax works seems to make a lot more sense, as well as its implementation of structures, literals, and I think you are allowed to put statements inside of expressions.
< 1393388780 870977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :statements in expressions is nice
< 1393388850 341570 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However it does lack some things, such as data types.
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< 1393389050 495483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLISS-M is a modern compiler, although it seems to be not quite the complete version yet.
< 1393389053 476229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :another weird thing about C++ is that operator overloading isn't just sugar for human consumption; it's also how you make your "smart" things usable in place of plain C constructs within templates
< 1393389102 71542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the iterator "concept" is designed around operator* and operator[] and operator!= so that plain C pointers are usable as iterators
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< 1393389237 547947 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Do you have an example of that?
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< 1393389345 32322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well an idiomatic C++ loop (pre-C++11) is:  for (foo::iterator it = obj.begin(); it != obj.end(); it++)
< 1393389358 511429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this will work even if foo::iterator is a typedef for a plain C pointer
< 1393389437 889776 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what exactly happens if it isn't a plain C pointer?
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< 1393389520 15888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the functions operator++ and operator!= are called on whatever type foo::iterator is
< 1393389547 496580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, if you really want this to work properly then you use free functions begin(obj) and end(obj) instead of obj.begin() and obj.end()
< 1393389559 138077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those are overloaded to work on arrays as well as fancier container types
< 1393389578 937831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I can understand how it is working, now.
< 1393389581 608034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of the few weird things C++ does *not* allow is adding methods to existing primitive types)
< 1393389684 580526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if SFINAE means you can write a single  template I begin(const T &x) { return x.begin(); }
< 1393389711 794567 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you try it to see if it work?
< 1393389714 943077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1393389994 488019 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you should implement it as a macro if it helps.
< 1393390416 923080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes; it appears you can do begin(x) -> x.begin() generically http://codepad.org/x2QL4ISp
< 1393390573 793077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure how this is supposed to work without 'auto'
< 1393390838 258969 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a typeof command in C++?
< 1393390857 989018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is typeid()
< 1393390954 933007 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which does what?
< 1393390961 911379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :returns an object with some information about a type
< 1393390994 873302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose one way to do the above without auto would be:  template struct const_iterator { typedef typename T::const_iterator ty; };  template struct const_iterator { typedef const T* ty; };
< 1393391077 851912 :password2!~password@197.78.190.189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
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< 1393391225 337466 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
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< 1393391953 549546 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393391955 25199 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :miintecoin nandocoin taligacoin zephawcoin sendercoin infucoin anemcoin oracoin whittcoin yencoin pbfcoin crangcoin halthnolateftitcoin rnacoin uriecoin lesznycoin niccoin lo'reravecoin cirtcoin hanibcoin
< 1393391970 173147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pbfcoin!!
< 1393391977 21416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rnacoin
< 1393392226 89456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393392359 352207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (I guess the latter is explained by oerjan sneakily sneaking out in the meanwhile.) <-- *MWA DE HA*
< 1393392880 931018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily I don't know what you meant at all   SORRY
< 1393392881 155790 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1393393140 107453 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.114.212 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393393204 557983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@meltages-loud
< 1393393204 814569 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 4h 17m 34s ago: you are not a Spanish ear. rest assured.
< 1393393336 956297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I am trying to implement Aho-Corasick. I don't need to match proper suffixes, so I can omit that part.
< 1393393615 814928 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1393393627 90286 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is part of a compiler to target Z-machine.
< 1393393847 370615 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393394265 131964 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3
< 1393395116 153693 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1393396344 830098 :password2!~password@197.78.190.189 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393398792 520321 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit
< 1393398810 166737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah coincidence
< 1393398817 590482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i mean, synchronicity)
< 1393398825 202563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i just /whois'ed you)
< 1393398830 700696 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are having issues also?
< 1393398832 89898 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1393398834 242072 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1393398836 277101 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am me
< 1393398844 533948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good
< 1393398847 863269 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think my IP is down again
< 1393398861 678460 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck those fucking fuckers, eh?
< 1393398862 517350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE THEN
< 1393398871 281985 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have two!
< 1393398901 521552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF YOU HAVE TWO IPS, GIVE ONE TO THE POOR
< 1393398911 977611 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm i guess i was wrong
< 1393398916 106976 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am the poor
< 1393398939 657620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic
< 1393398947 41395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ip)
< 1393398952 920648 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb gotta free up some memory
< 1393399316 807342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393399762 348251 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1393400642 915058 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1393400834 973412 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393401558 753202 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A crazy way to convert a 600mil DIP to 300mil. [LPC1114] http://youtu.be/n5LEEoskiaM
< 1393401762 798616 :MoALTz!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393402698 368456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice animated flames.
< 1393404159 478276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily  whenever someone says «OK», I read it as «O KAY», while hearing it in my head with oerjan's voice. <-- wtf did you hear my voice
< 1393404159 703837 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1393404187 630215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the voice of fridge logic
< 1393405115 206081 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393405315 644971 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :
< 1393405353 834536 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393405639 928851 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.114.212 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1393408535 52093 :MoALTz!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1393409735 883627 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1393410698 629318 :MoALTz!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393411167 248479 :budweiserz!~k30zm57r@77.109.184.152 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393411420 136331 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1393411869 783060 :budweiserz!~k30zm57r@77.109.184.152 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
< 1393412938 941684 :budweiserz!~k30zm57r@77.109.184.152 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393412939 163223 :budweiserz!~k30zm57r@77.109.184.152 QUIT :Client Quit
< 1393413689 876127 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393414287 473305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yo http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/resplicate/TagResPair.hs
< 1393414481 396034 :test_pidgin!~Xam@broadband-77-37-142-27.nationalcablenetworks.ru JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393414574 565306 :test_pidgin!~Xam@broadband-77-37-142-27.nationalcablenetworks.ru QUIT :Client Quit
< 1393414979 840450 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1393415579 52912 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393415662 225228 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud
< 1393415662 410212 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 6h 19m 41s ago: I don't know what you meant at all SORRY
< 1393415662 595026 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan asked 3h 11m 42s ago:  whenever someone says «OK», I read it as «O KAY», while hearing it in my head with oerjan's voice. <-- wtf did you hear my voice
< 1393415728 683165 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I never heard your real voice, but I know it is yours.
< 1393416082 635292 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: The Mystery of Ørjan's Voice
< 1393416324 542776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh
< 1393416546 527172 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393417968 586186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1393418381 828453 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393418703 878190 :password2!~password@197.78.190.189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1393419837 999537 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1393421429 180600 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1393421653 706287 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393423000 228153 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1393423611 609546 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393424016 798230 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393424128 70400 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Centre of Excellence in Intersubjectivity in Interaction --"  quite a name.
< 1393425398 662836 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Quit
< 1393425430 866340 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde992@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.146 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393425434 118457 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393425591 782455 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393426285 909098 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1393428001 821770 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :a
< 1393428007 248188 :a!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1393428022 24472 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde992@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.146 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what the shortest unclaimed nick is
< 1393428052 313191 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde992@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.146 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there must be a 3-character one, and probably there are leftover 2-character ones
< 1393428113 9246 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the shortest is a 0-character one
< 1393428121 452939 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde992@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.146 PRIVMSG #esoteric :har har
< 1393428143 837213 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[431] ais523 No nickname given
< 1393428146 935091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not
< 1393428154 144228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :431 says that isn't a nick
< 1393428216 902097 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de NICK :[
< 1393428230 809112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there may be unclaimed two-character nicks where one of them is a punctuation mark
< 1393428231 822860 :[!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :registered ... but currently unused.
< 1393428233 920378 :[!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de NICK :int-e
< 1393428647 899785 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde992@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.146 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha
< 1393428663 575391 :Phantom_Hoover!89cde992@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.146 NICK :[`
< 1393428722 100754 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[`: I thought there'd be one
< 1393428738 304162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to register it now?
< 1393428772 231372 :[`!89cde992@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.146 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1393428776 640298 :[`!89cde992@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.146 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE CYCLE CONTINUES
< 1393428804 310110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it be your default nick?
< 1393428817 391452 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so unbalanced.
< 1393428835 430375 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan will be peeved.
< 1393428887 838225 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1393428903 506480 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :`]
< 1393428908 963733 :`]!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :will this help?
< 1393428912 677212 :`]!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this nick isn't registered either)
< 1393428978 702915 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1393428984 106986 :`]!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, oerjan just proved respairaite TC
< 1393428986 106505 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :^^
< 1393428993 809523 :`]!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523
< 1393428997 856312 :^^!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti
< 1393429461 681443 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393429494 770005 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393430049 456919 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393430574 754889 :[`!89cde992@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.146 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats respairaite
< 1393430617 515644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ResPlicate with the repeat count capped at 2
< 1393430631 791701 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a few syntax changes
< 1393430644 426604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the lengths are forced to be even
< 1393430652 982354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that what's a repeat count and what's a length can be statically verified
< 1393430982 934060 :[`!89cde992@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.146 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see
< 1393431026 698566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did feel like there was too much power in resplicate, and that a tarpit version might be possible
< 1393431169 585169 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any cap on the length field?
< 1393431188 316447 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is 4 enough?)
< 1393431334 839881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: not yet
< 1393431338 356133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's the next step
< 1393431340 630111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, time to go home
< 1393431342 471898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye everyone
< 1393431346 890229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
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< 1393433451 895258 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393433467 975157 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai pplz
< 1393433477 940551 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone interested in Flappy Bird Atari?
< 1393433484 900006 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm gonna make one!
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< 1393435192 772438 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 Having [` and `] will only help if the people involved are careful in coordinating their comments hth
< 1393435192 995429 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1393435256 956770 :[`!89cde992@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.205.233.146 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, it can still be balanced in the future
< 1393435300 324927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps there could be a `balance command that'd make HackEgo run through the logs and output the correct number of brackets.
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< 1393435958 658576 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this look a correct implementation of Aho-Corasick?  http://sprunge.us/VSQi
< 1393436371 794680 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393436484 927086 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
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< 1393439056 58076 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan i sort of kind of get the construction. I recognize the methods at least. I'll have to study it a while to fully grok it (so as to figure out how to get rid of the m=1 pairs :P)
< 1393439056 279794 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1393439430 84927 :MoALTz_!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393439459 351351 :MoALTz!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer
< 1393439508 96207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393439579 994626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-good
< 1393439580 304691 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 8m 44s ago: i sort of kind of get the construction. I recognize the methods at least. I'll have to study it a while to fully grok it (so as to figure out how to get rid of the m=1 pairs :P)
< 1393439728 594355 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be more specific, the only part that's not completely clear is the "anatomy of a core" part... and of course the haskell code since i don't speak haskell
< 1393439753 875282 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm sure it's just a matter of time and thought...your explanation seems solid
< 1393439800 665813 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know this Aho-Corasick? I found some slide-presentation and I want to know if you think it is correct.
< 1393439818 245262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: write a test suite, maybe? QuickCheck?
< 1393439929 505997 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, I can test it once I write the rest of the program but first I just ask if other people think it looks to be OK.
< 1393439961 517728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it had to be haskell... ais523's eval hack was _screaming_ to be replaced by lazy evaluation :)
< 1393440090 90154 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well i am able to read it well enough to see that it should output ResPlicate directly...but the convert function is all greek.
< 1393440099 205654 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Vorpal Look, a macroSD card: http://zem.fi/2014-02-26-macrosd
< 1393440099 523832 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1393440196 914943 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i didn't know you=photography
< 1393440238 741322 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't (much) do "actual" photography, I just like these silly fringe things.
< 1393440270 85128 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stitched panoramas, time-lapse things, and as a latest thing this macro stuff.
< 1393440292 776380 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Whale slaps Nova Scotia woman in the face" should i read this news y/n?
< 1393440373 965583 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool
< 1393440374 150736 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No.
< 1393440378 786158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nice!
< 1393440379 741667 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently not.
< 1393440396 164818 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen bunnie's posts about microSD cards?
< 1393440412 701970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I had no idea the surface was like that, since it looks just textured-but-smooth to the eye.
< 1393440461 272566 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently I have. (I didn't recognize the name, but I did see at least this one run-arbitrary-code-on-the-card post.)
< 1393440467 918203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=3554 http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=918 
< 1393440484 237663 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second one I hadn't read.
< 1393440495 332743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=2946 is neat too
< 1393440503 431722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the whole rest of the blog
< 1393440578 719041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i suppose my design layout section doesn't describe precisely how all the offsets are calculated, just putting ? in most spots.  it _should_ be possible to grasp what's needed without reading the haskell code, but still...
< 1393440686 402931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course i am accepting further questions.
< 1393441153 218971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log do we have logs
< 1393441154 86224 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/hackenv/bin/log: 2: cd: can't cd to /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ grep: ????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory
< 1393441156 370868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1393441203 345724 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1393441204 394639 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :98076 \ a \ app.sh \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ :-D \ dog \ etc \ factor \ fb \ fb.c \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ paste \ paste.1014 \ paste.11282 \ paste.11437 \ paste.12235 \ paste.12391 \ paste.12738 \ paste.13150 \ paste.13287 \ paste.1368 \ paste.14273 \ paste.14276 \ paste.14992 \ paste.1
< 1393441206 9786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls paste.* | wc -l
< 1393441206 995479 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :41
< 1393441209 497508 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruh roh.
< 1393441232 323019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what
< 1393441240 305481 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think pastes are supposed to go *there*.
< 1393441249 651284 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393441251 838591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, what has happened.  to the repository.
< 1393441304 998734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm i suddenly have a hunch
< 1393441389 574408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it was my `undo command, which is buggy about directories :(
< 1393441400 82896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/undo
< 1393441400 955026 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/sh \ hg diff -c "$@" | patch -R
< 1393441413 867142 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1393441430 954716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hg is a hard mistress.
< 1393441473 266821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well it's not my command, but my use of it had that effect.)
< 1393441689 584475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why didn't the change to quotes get reverted.  sigh.
< 1393441690 815149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks about how to exploit the standard C memory vulnerabilites in Emscripten-compiled code
< 1393441712 725841 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. if my Emscripten app has a vulnerable libpng and loads a malicious png, the attacker could get XSS-like powers in the hosting page
< 1393441776 441606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm paste.*
< 1393441778 711427 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1393441781 665937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1393441782 613130 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :98076 \ a \ app.sh \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ :-D \ dog \ etc \ factor \ fb \ fb.c \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ Test.hi \ Test.hs \ UNPA \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf
< 1393441804 952628 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat :-D
< 1393441805 753406 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :☺
< 1393441809 993959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those pastes were all of the quotes database, anyhow.
< 1393441820 225873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1393441829 281960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/cat
< 1393441830 145885 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/cat: No such file or directory
< 1393441845 281886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat
< 1393441845 906609 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, there is a file called :-D in ~
< 1393441850 629428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1393441860 679154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh
< 1393441875 271063 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l 98076
< 1393441876 75550 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1393441876 423253 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 373 Feb 17 03:23 98076
< 1393441892 854298 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat 98076
< 1393441893 677795 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- Hi everyone!
< 1393441948 371174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i suddenly have this vague recall that bugs in `undo have been previously discussed - if only `pastelogs worked.
< 1393442128 438223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hey you made bin/undo and it hasn't been changed.  do you know why it might wrongly dump things into the top directory?  and also miss some files.
< 1393442170 97709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone seems idle
< 1393442218 765266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/undo
< 1393442219 730617 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/sh \ hg diff -c "$@" | patch -R
< 1393442233 164124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest looking at the hg diff output when it breaks.
< 1393442239 808598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, and reading man patch
< 1393442241 645121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beyond that, no idea
< 1393442243 898223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1393442248 435078 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think things like http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/73104/usenix05data_attack.pdf should still work, and maybe return-to-libc-style attacks, but not ROP (because there's no way to jump to the middle of a function, unless the JS engine has a bug)
< 1393442269 964182 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why that's a "shachaf: ", maybe because I think you sent me that paper, but maybe you didn't?
< 1393442275 138176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run hg diff -c 4468 | paste
< 1393442280 507615 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.30692
< 1393442352 946244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv paste/paste.30692 paste/paste-30692.txt
< 1393442355 976390 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1393442360 948288 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I discovered nested content-encodings today, turns out at least opera and chrome support it (up to obscene nesting depths)
< 1393442410 629697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems to be crashing IE D:
< 1393442499 713740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1393442502 623769 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1393442538 990657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l paste/paste.30692
< 1393442540 22146 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information.
< 1393442544 230117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l paste/paste.30692
< 1393442545 420621 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 7586437 Feb 26 19:21 paste/paste.30692
< 1393442599 696606 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Big file.
< 1393442696 977510 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be a lot of pastes and a single quotes change.
< 1393442917 342685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.
< 1393442942 746596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run hg diff -c 4468 | patch --dry-run -R | paste
< 1393442947 593293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.26081
< 1393442964 434790 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why patch -R would put those in root when they're clearly in the "paste" subdir, though.
< 1393443013 206665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv paste/paste.26081{,.txt}
< 1393443015 159321 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1393443048 323297 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what it seems to do, though.
< 1393443090 822514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file paste/paste.26081.txt
< 1393443091 843827 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :paste/paste.26081.txt: ASCII text
< 1393443124 355167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: why doesn't it get shown as text in browser :(
< 1393443184 163952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's some weirdness in patch -R when the "new" file is /dev/null, like it is for deletions.
< 1393443190 386974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right the lines in quotes were deleted entirely later, so there's nothing to revert there.
< 1393443276 372194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe hg has something that can do undo by itself
< 1393443282 476171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be surprised
< 1393443294 70815 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393443317 36632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, explicitly specifying the correct path stripping by adding a -p1 to patch -R makes at least that patch work.
< 1393443331 676590 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Can't guarantee if that's the case for any and all hg diff outputs.)
< 1393443390 101039 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where "work" means creating the paste.X files in paste/ instead of ., nothing more.)
< 1393443474 603405 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1393443476 466341 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1393443519 868159 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.130.150 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393443648 96796 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393443658 815781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emscripten C supports "inline JS" a la inline ASM
< 1393443736 461783 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, not actual inline asm that accepts javascript?
< 1393443744 873909 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393443757 7181 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It's pretty much that.
< 1393443772 718643 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the macro to include those is called EM_ASM.
< 1393443791 855384 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I used that for something.
< 1393443865 895983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have you used emscripten for?
< 1393443917 559675 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I compiled kissfft with it, and used it for an in-the-browser "turn an audio file to magnitude spectrogram image" and "turn a magnitude spectrogram image to an audio signal" wizard thing.
< 1393443941 151762 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it's stuck being 90% done after I got sidetracked with other things.
< 1393443962 576221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea was that you could use that if you wanted to, say, draw on your sound in Gimp or something.
< 1393443970 36110 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i just assumed the ? would be filled in on the fly the same way the unknowns were in ais's. most of them seem to correspond to a linear function in c.
< 1393443973 53833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well it works by processing the LLVM output of unmodified (?) clang; I don't know exactly how inline ASM is propagated through LLVM but it might upset clang
< 1393444001 450660 :Speed``!~Speed@evile.thrash.im JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393444031 285952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like EM_ASM(2+2) => emscripten_asm_const("2+2") and the LLVM-reading backend will turn that function call back into JS
< 1393444042 644723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this all counts as esoprogramming right?
< 1393444056 544870 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393444057 819956 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.130.150 QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393444058 671390 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393444060 294470 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393444062 618499 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393444064 122191 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393444065 709429 :Speed`!~Speed@192.241.167.234 QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1393444066 997396 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads last three lines in isolation. yes, yes it does
< 1393444085 252596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought of Emscripten as a really clever and amusing esoprogramming hack and so I was kind of terrified when I learned that Mozilla is nearly betting the company on it
< 1393444109 134143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but (with asm.js) it works far, far better than it has any right to
< 1393444115 64830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to say that you might be hurting the feelings of the emscripten folks by calling it esoprogramming.
< 1393444123 984874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how is it nearly betting the company on it?
< 1393444140 488850 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick NICK :yorick
< 1393444180 228782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, you can get a million line commercial AAA game engine running with good performance in a week
< 1393444197 65449 :impomatic!~digital_w@78.69.90.146.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393444291 327928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well moving more kinds of content to the web platform is a major goal
< 1393444312 978381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: being haskell, they're filled out lazily.  and yes the functions are linear, somewhat in c but also in i, the current state index.
< 1393444314 657601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Emscripten+asm.js is the approach for doing this for high performance graphics-intensive "native" apps, i.e. games
< 1393444338 34583 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1393444338 694893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :without expecting game publishers to do a ton of work
< 1393444399 55366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how does shumway fit into that picture?
< 1393444407 454736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the goal is that porting a game to run in Firefox is no harder than porting it to another console / mobile OS
< 1393444414 649057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you just emscriptenned lightspark or something :3
< 1393444417 929590 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is especially important now that Firefox is a mobile OS)
< 1393444452 601123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ha well that's how I got to thinking about exploits; what if we could just get Adobe to give us the source to Flash (as they have for Google and apparently Microsoft) and we compile it to JS
< 1393444466 23573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fuck that, Shumway is much cooler
< 1393444470 466614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you just write an x86 -> asm.js compiler
< 1393444471 292634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3
< 1393444481 495843 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393444581 917589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_;
< 1393444593 78642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't we just use http://bellard.org/jslinux/
< 1393444606 15231 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FABRICE BELLARD HAS A POSSE
< 1393444757 50757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually kinda serious
< 1393444764 251076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that could be a nacl type dealie
< 1393444779 4546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can do C -> asm.js it's probably feasible to do x86 -> asm.js to some degree?
< 1393444808 524895 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1393444825 783675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but: flash is way too slow anyway, I don't see even emscripten with the source code as viable??
< 1393444832 158367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially for video decoding
< 1393444859 975279 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I don't know how Shumway handles / will handle video
< 1393444864 977805 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393444865 162989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like an important use case
< 1393444876 503093 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :YouTube may embrace HTML5 but there is a long tail of video sites that don't give a shit
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< 1393444903 837521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the ones providing the kind of... video content that has historically played a huge role in technology adoption
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< 1393444919 66092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure some porn site has advertised HTML5 support.
< 1393444936 448410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, firefox can do H.264 and stuff now because of binary blobs, right?
< 1393444946 404790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably *faster* than flash can -_-
< 1393444965 570135 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I guess all the sites that support iOS will have a non-Flash version
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< 1393445888 606967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: mind you, it's not as on the fly as it _could_ have been, i do use explicit formulas for stuff.  but before i realized anything else was overkill, at one point i considered making a label-tracking monad.
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< 1393446216 3483 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :YouTube's "embracing" of HTML5 seems p. flaky.
< 1393446241 163553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anecdotally speaking, I've been getting a lot more Flash videos than HTML5 videos lately, even having opted-in.
< 1393446254 383034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because of ads
< 1393446278 939964 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's easy to notice, because Flash defullscreens when I move focus to another monitor, while the HTML5 player doesn't.)
< 1393446459 555360 :impomatic!~digital_w@78.69.90.146.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393446674 213129 :impomatic!~digital_w@78.69.90.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone live near Nottingham, UK? http://geekup.org/events/385/
< 1393446689 374180 :impomatic!~digital_w@78.69.90.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Peter Cooper presents a quick tour of the long history of robot-based programming games"
< 1393446846 602845 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: same. they've had this beta for what, months
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< 1393446908 934158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hams hex and notting
< 1393446920 636535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike_: http://youtube-global.blogspot.fi/2010/01/introducing-youtube-html5-supported.html -- four years and a bit.
< 1393446957 775196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better safe than sorry, y'see.
< 1393446966 163095 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cripes.
< 1393446969 409339 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu NICK :Bike
< 1393446976 864116 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say "years" but i figured i must be exaggreating
< 1393447045 382968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: don't forget birming
< 1393447115 354572 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-52.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1393447270 31060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there #esotericans in the ham of birming?
< 1393447311 754212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523
< 1393447316 72832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1393447335 130247 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many hams are there?
< 1393447362 677687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generic_forms_in_place_names_in_the_United_Kingdom_and_Ireland
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< 1393447401 957526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an old english word meaning "farm" or "homestead"
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< 1393447408 932108 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that the modern word "hamlet" is related
< 1393447416 575904 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393447424 709189 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hamlet sounds like it means small ham
< 1393447484 751663 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that or a port or harbour
< 1393447748 263158 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :news ham
< 1393447774 713794 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you telling me you're not a sham
< 1393447777 561906 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel... betrayed
< 1393447801 366935 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a n00b in the shire, i'm afraid
< 1393447815 672590 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the sham that you're not a sham
< 1393447828 542944 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ceci n'est pas une sham
< 1393448099 874388 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc> the hams hex and notting  Well, dur
< 1393448103 718482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsh am i
< 1393448129 742107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic what you did there
< 1393448196 309770 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see it
< 1393448303 375151 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393448330 300185 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try standing on your head and reading it upsdie down
< 1393448354 974410 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393448481 277495 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :way smeu?
< 1393448549 707178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i was speaking to Taneb hth
< 1393448656 998331 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1393448690 739170 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I don't think I know anyone actually from York
< 1393448797 375245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there aren't any.
< 1393448813 811713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps everyone in york is from elsewhere.
< 1393448823 451886 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems likely
< 1393448835 632414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: York used to be known as Amsterdam
< 1393448870 52876 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1393448934 798769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think ic what you did there, except on the incredibly unlikely chance that it's literally true.
< 1393448954 754065 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oerjan, it is not literally true)
< 1393448961 226524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good
< 1393448965 715767 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(York was known as Eboracum, then later Jorvik)
< 1393449023 764922 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if so, it wouldn't be a fun fact
< 1393449040 530350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: O KAY
< 1393449071 268264 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fun fact
< 1393449071 995953 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = 1 | fact n = n * fact (n - 1)
< 1393449101 671855 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ocaml?
< 1393449106 418443 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? York
< 1393449107 43245 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :York? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1393449110 779583 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sentence is (not?) a fun fact when preceded by fun fact.
< 1393449123 929776 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn York used to be known as Amsterdam.
< 1393449125 585410 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that.
< 1393449160 319674 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was portishead known as before?
< 1393449170 630796 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :portishoulders
< 1393449177 573107 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"even old new york was once new amsterdam"
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< 1393453302 953616 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungotty evening
< 1393453303 138585 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you are using mit scheme. :) for me,
< 1393453319 282767 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I actually haven't tried MIT Scheme
< 1393453319 530865 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: interesting comparison :) congradulations." --olin shivers' original papers on scsh, so that *it* gets the job done
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< 1393453549 784988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I think fungot's implying you should.
< 1393453550 151925 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: say hello, world!" looks like thorn. he's also my advisor... i'm fucked))
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< 1393453575 443780 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
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< 1393454825 645860 :impomatic!~digital_w@78.69.90.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anyone is in Vienna, there's a Core War workshop at Metalab on Friday :-)
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< 1393456299 291223 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1393457663 780189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393457665 698161 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lircoin bridictagcoin merecoin smatiocoin sorycoin bryotcoin basecomcoin oracoin inecoin reverdenitumcoin ischecoin bubbllcoin lakadeliuacoin mosteputrcoin vcoin netinuscoin gotcoin pooncoin mempocoin falcoin
< 1393457845 916568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.adampetersen.se/articles/fizzbuzz.htm
< 1393458055 929145 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393458165 250867 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice n practical
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< 1393466503 927597 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :sarah
< 1393466513 463971 :sarah!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :janice
< 1393466597 761580 :janice!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :janedoe
< 1393467071 532572 :janedoe!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin
< 1393467392 947141 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I try F#?
< 1393467435 462792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure why not
< 1393467449 488765 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be a very functional language in a mainstream IDE
< 1393467463 34473 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That is more of a reason why than a reason why not)
< 1393467498 860293 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Idris type providers took the idea from F# apparently, and it seems like an interesting (and good) idea
< 1393467505 562333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what "very functional language" means but a few years ago I would have enjoyed arguing about it at length
< 1393467521 937674 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, more 'functional' than most mainstream languages?
< 1393467534 296810 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also ripe for arguing about)
< 1393467556 556561 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't intend to actually state any opinions suggestive of what I think about F#, at least before I start to learn it
< 1393467572 294272 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :picturing your opinion posing in lingerie
< 1393468025 248662 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Massiva - MIDI sequencer for Windows 95/98
< 1393468109 955085 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :jsut gonna picture everything sgeo refers to in lingerie from nwo on
< 1393468130 83807 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anti-lingerie
< 1393468501 892959 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a spectacular annihilation
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< 1393469942 320434 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very functional
< 1393469945 303175 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :much ide
< 1393470458 567061 :chaiomanot_!~chaiomano@75-121-72-210.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
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< 1393475939 747987 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zsh: /home/ion/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Portal 2/portal2.sh: bad interpreter: /bin/bash^M: no such file or directory
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< 1393476036 819692 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1393476185 454351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393476188 10929 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sumamerlancoin q-balcoin fobberwacoin suxeracoin cutcoin headeltapcoin hexcoin xsmickringcoin rocerecoin flipcoin jgovtocoin amaccicoin gillmarcoin lazzlatlniancoin fubftrcoin flvcoin condicoin louxcoin quangcoin fruhrberwancoin
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< 1393476519 681712 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393476521 950920 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :befucoin buccoin nybocoin unbrcoin ted!coin tomiacoin patsrecoin rodyscriptcoin orocoin bencerecoin udainloncoin boobbycoin bawlecoin barburingcoin isoroupcoin snaiacoin hollengraphthisesocoin doflorumcoin cheffolksworkcoin birdetrcoin
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< 1393477143 95037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393477393 856143 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Switching from the standard Portal 2 (Beta) to the Portal 2 (Beta) [beta] helped.
< 1393477606 250364 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1393477893 468854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O
< 1393477949 278380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: is it a neutrinoless double beta
< 1393478025 791138 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you much of a gpg user?
< 1393478032 738189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1393478053 745768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"he asked if I was a PGP user but I heard 'PCP user'"
< 1393478069 293939 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1393478294 637244 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any software for breaking old ciphers? like substitution and vignere and shit, nothing you'd use nowadays? or does everyone just write their own
< 1393478381 257313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrypTool
< 1393478422 759487 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if that's what i want but it looks neat.
< 1393478423 252615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody in ##crypto was claming that CrypTool could distinguish an AES-CTR ciphertext from randomness without knowing the key
< 1393478426 278110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1393478455 707840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :crypto attracts more than its share of crackpots
< 1393478717 150878 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically i have a ciphertext corpus of probably-a-substitution-cipher and i'm wondering if i should just break it myself, or write a program to break it for me
< 1393479020 66671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :etaoin shrdlu
< 1393479043 349521 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/pvFCifh.png astronomy is weird
< 1393479047 517695 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :astrology rather
< 1393479067 412248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38ology
< 1393479235 578900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION learns from that that the southern cross isn't actually the constellation containing the south pole
< 1393479381 216001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, except for the "family" part which looks suspect, i suspect most of that is astronomy.
< 1393479633 227472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, bayer and la caille are astronomical, and the zodiac would be historical, but the rest i've never heard about.
< 1393479687 543105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as divisions of the sky, that is.
< 1393479725 747699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow that chart reminds me of http://www.obsidianfields.com/lj/nonmonogamy2.5.1.gif
< 1393479750 112390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: What, is Portal 2 now in LinuxSteam also? 
< 1393479795 336292 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://sprunge.us/CWhL also looks suspicious.)
< 1393479853 862597 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it cheating to temporarily fall in love on purpose in an open relation ship if you have a just-sex rule
< 1393479872 420476 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wondering because there is no intersection between cheating and open relationship
< 1393479933 605248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fall in love on purpose" is a weird concept
< 1393480090 147368 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393480474 776472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't vouch for the accuracy or usefulness of that chart, I just think it's amusing
< 1393480500 603261 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is definitely possible to cheat in an open relationship
< 1393481061 234351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the astronomical chart definitely is less confusing
< 1393481068 967335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and less overlapping)
< 1393481217 629921 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah
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< 1393484686 108732 :password2!~password@197.78.180.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, if you fall in love with another person , you may have never been in love with the first person
< 1393484747 15795 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still cheating if you don't love your partner
< 1393484757 241642 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least according to my definition
< 1393484816 963306 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would say that "cheating" just means breaking the agreed-to rules, whatever they may be
< 1393484832 160340 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :precisely
< 1393484862 783466 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay if we agree on that, then i guess my original question is pretty stupid
< 1393484868 43852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I also think "would this upset my partner" is at least as important as "does this meet the definition of cheating"
< 1393484925 938805 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i usually check whether the feeling my partner will get meets the definition of upset before doing anything
< 1393484984 227674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: may have, sure, but it is also possible to truly love more than one person
< 1393485042 737387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i affine love
< 1393485131 60244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a song title.
< 1393485185 360883 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what's that i,i thing again?
< 1393485192 809639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means "i have no point, I just like saying"
< 1393485208 920737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The grave's affine and private place, / But none, I think, do there embrace."
< 1393485352 426167 :password2!~password@197.78.180.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably
< 1393485598 239088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when a couple has two children nobody is like "well that means you didn't *really* love the first one"
< 1393485602 494727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk, maybe some people do think that way
< 1393485653 467499 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :
< 1393485786 579175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you love each of them half as much as a result
< 1393485834 44285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems pretty ridiculous though
< 1393485838 124953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the more incoming love you have the more you have to distribute
< 1393485841 840060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :LoveRank
< 1393485845 815794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1393486034 619679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes back to thinking about what the eigenvalues of the hookup graph represent.  and anonymizing multi-party protocols for computing said graph
< 1393486047 299899 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric - applying linear algebra to feelings since [insert ridiculous year].
< 1393486055 288773 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :minding the gap since 1996
< 1393486076 202208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that applying linear algebra to feelings is big business now
< 1393486092 494451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should learn linear algebra
< 1393486096 60605 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also feelings
< 1393486099 199045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should read Nielsen and Chuang
< 1393486113 41132 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"LOST: Our B&K 4153 artificial ear is missing black circular plate, --"
< 1393486122 905754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally i would put that in my file of things to maybe read
< 1393486133 873646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wow, that's an actual thing
< 1393486139 440187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.dropbox.com/s/aww14dg5sis59z2/bk4153.png
< 1393486139 629172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that file is on a disembodied hard drive
< 1393486151 44015 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish i had a binaural microphone thing.
< 1393486165 521414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the one on the right is labeled in Comic Sans??
< 1393486191 730803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It's apparently a photo of the actual unit they have, the one that's missing the black circular plate.
< 1393486199 867652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how one loses something like that, though.
< 1393486203 879021 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be missing a foot pad too
< 1393486212 917498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"#Huawei Rotating CEO announced FusionSphere"
< 1393486226 514365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently Huawei have 3 rotating CEOs in addition to the usual, stationary CEO
< 1393486242 601144 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :One for each axis
< 1393486246 771738 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I see they've fixed it with utmost professionalism.
< 1393486291 324848 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks expensive too, I don't think it's been treated with the appropriate respect
< 1393486303 965135 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe "stuff some paper under it"
< 1393486307 733753 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like tissue even
< 1393486375 622447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't find a price with a quick search, there's just a "request a quote" button at the B&K page.
< 1393486381 838725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is usually code for expensive, though.
< 1393486425 713547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1393486429 803045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have to ask, it's too much
< 1393486442 807203 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m sure all the companies have done the math, but it’s unintuitive to me that they’ll maximize sales by hiding their prices.
< 1393486471 637205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it's about selling you ``custom'' ``solutions'' that happen to cost exactly as much as they think you're willing to pay
< 1393486485 954067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why all enterprise software is "customized" despite this being a massive pain for everyone
< 1393486610 795164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently these days you can also buy ones that look... well, like this: http://www.gras.dk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/500x500/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/4/3/43ag_web.jpg
< 1393486659 253138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
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< 1393488592 478804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone here has access to a really badass PC (more than 32 simultaneous CPU threads) tromp_ may need your help https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485170.0
< 1393488647 562320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1ytrld/help_wanted_testing_new_proofofwork/
< 1393488745 493536 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is every parallel thing i see about fucking bitcoin ;_;
< 1393488746 431613 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :htkallas@hippu3:~> cat /proc/cpuinfo  | grep 'processor' | wc -l
< 1393488746 616536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :32
< 1393488755 511325 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, it's not for playing around with.
< 1393488770 822765 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also   load average: 13.10, 12.88, 12.29   it's kind of busy at all times.
< 1393488771 451662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note, that is _strictly_ more than 32.
< 1393488774 983022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1393488819 346854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: he is actually trying to test if his new scheme is _immune_ to easy parallelization.
< 1393488839 22384 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah yeah
< 1393488849 282893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's intended to be bound by memory latency, rather than cpu speed
< 1393488858 938235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bounded
< 1393488939 418825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i guess this means he wants those > 32 threads on a single chip
< 1393488946 643878 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you intend that, out of curiosity
< 1393488973 265739 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "The largest machine I have access to has 32 threads (dual 8 core hyperthreaded)" -- that sounds like two chips to me.
< 1393488997 520259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ok maybe single motherboard, whatever (I AM NOT GOOD AT HARDWARE)
< 1393489011 664839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hippu3 is 4*8 cores, apparently without hyperthreading.)
< 1393489052 704013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :hippu1 and hippu2 would be 8*4 cores both, and hippu4 is identical to hippu3. So they all go up to 32 only.
< 1393489062 22454 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you just mean they should share ram...?
< 1393489063 110465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: he wants "normal" computer hardware to be competitive at mining
< 1393489070 754266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: perhaps.
< 1393489089 43728 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nice goal and all, but i would think the love of money destroys any hope of that.
< 1393489147 518855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well the idea is to have something that you _cannot_ make enormously more efficient with custom chips
< 1393489159 134605 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i get that.
< 1393489165 342373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. asics, which afaiu have completely taken over bitcoin mining)
< 1393489184 958388 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just think somebody motivated by money will probably break it. vague prediction, i know.
< 1393489192 313021 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they'll get custom ram to get less latency, lol
< 1393489233 739840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well i recall tromp saying to the effect that if someone manages to design less latency ram, everyone wins anyway
< 1393489254 853366 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and if we get better parallelization from bitcoin everyone wins anyway too, i suppose
< 1393489398 12167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also, i think coin mining is not profitable enough to pay for doing fundamental hardware research...
< 1393489470 909520 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :god, i hope so
< 1393489488 216208 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it apparently is profitable enough for people to make asics??
< 1393489688 363870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but that's not necessarily true invention, i think i read something like that they get their increased efficiency by being all cpu and no memory... which means tromp's scheme would totally crush them.
< 1393489711 412024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he may have been the one who said it, or it was in one of his discussions)
< 1393489759 191288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway ->
< 1393489846 824795 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's not invention, i just mean asics are pretty damn expensive as i understand
< 1393490863 409358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393490865 599199 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :subsercoin fluebuacoin pistcoin vowelscoin tweeacoin twentcoin hungcoin qakacoin recucoin doncoin thuecoin unracoin orocoin dupcoin quing-bookcoin schecoin ortecoin parcecoin retacoin domcoin
< 1393490887 34606 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+1 for vowelcoin
< 1393490904 70973 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, domcoin for bdsm sites
< 1393490909 909000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thue-morsecoin
< 1393491057 961679 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
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< 1393493252 821725 :impomatic!~digital_w@78.69.90.146.dyn.plus.net PART :#esoteric
< 1393495008 200871 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393495510 415245 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can buy the full version of WinRAR with unracoin.
< 1393495930 979126 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393496657 443148 :password2!~password@197.78.180.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats with the coin lists ?
< 1393496708 996445 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they rule.
< 1393496772 666424 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: It’s important to know about all the new cryptocoins so we can invest in them.
< 1393496788 166297 :password2!~password@197.78.180.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1393496829 646075 :password2!~password@197.78.180.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have a bot that looks for wors containing coin ?
< 1393496841 113845 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/coins
< 1393496841 977701 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g'
< 1393496866 554160 :password2!~password@197.78.180.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kay
< 1393496872 262333 :password2!~password@197.78.180.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so bash magic
< 1393496887 649054 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words
< 1393496889 624578 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stiz
< 1393496895 818747 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 20
< 1393496897 617396 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deponscenc niorum guilizier gounde masastii hor hyth chrif lan oife cobdelby behoo hassaling murmed nondani giadamaby sna trim theed berton
< 1393496984 634062 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish 10
< 1393496985 668981 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :norma humallansa ankohteväksen käyvinansa vikseen hoiltasi lauksistänsä arkoitumasta siden fysisään
< 1393496996 707531 :password2!~password@197.78.180.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words 100000
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< 1393502805 515268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, that snarxiv game -- http://snarxiv.org/vs-arxiv/ -- is quite hard.
< 1393502861 745383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a non-physicist, anyway.
< 1393503291 800726 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393503447 289026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``echo $LANG
< 1393503448 29380 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found
< 1393503457 470483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sh -c "echo $LANG"
< 1393503458 426715 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh: 0: Illegal option -
< 1393503462 522492 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sh -c "echo $LANG"
< 1393503463 387824 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :en_NZ.UTF-8
< 1393503479 949778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've found the explanation; apparently some Ubuntu VMs have en_NZ installed but not en_US
< 1393503487 688036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in their default config
< 1393504104 36429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the explanation is gregor set it to that
< 1393504513 133316 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I'm going to enter an arduino competition that I do not really know much about
< 1393504766 585146 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: was your esolang creation event already
< 1393504782 491063 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, yeah
< 1393504790 714969 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think it went well but the audience enjoyed it
< 1393504828 530803 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i see an example program
< 1393504957 69702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I mean, why he choe that setting
< 1393504973 631242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chose
< 1393505047 830116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he chose it to amuse himself
< 1393505052 483131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was unset or something before
< 1393505061 675919 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does `words work
< 1393505080 618701 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :markov chain, I think, the same way as fungot
< 1393505080 843404 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: playing mmorpgs again? :p. ugh i need to look at
< 1393505091 683648 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are pretty good except for the horrible lack of vowel harmony
< 1393505115 499689 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess a markov chain
< 1393505152 10222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote markov assumption
< 1393505152 983332 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1393505155 155248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hh
< 1393505158 734929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*huh
< 1393505162 507768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog Markov assumption 0
< 1393505193 233917 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/hackenv/bin/pastlog: 2: cd: can't cd to /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ ls: cannot access ????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory
< 1393505201 4512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1393505255 672098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I don't misremember, it's character trigrams.
< 1393505278 343313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So very close to fungot indeed, except with characters instead of words, and a fixed context size.
< 1393505278 850425 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's how all the various variations on which link exactly is weak). i'm tempted to participate in cycling through finland every year, but at some point back in 2.4.x.
< 1393505352 624336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines fungot cycling through Finland
< 1393505352 892506 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if ( ( if ( move) ( mark 1 300) doesn't seem to define any s-expression based language and turning it into a string
< 1393505366 724130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't really imagine what fungot looks like in person, so my mental image just has a bike zooming along by itself
< 1393505367 2816 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this will actually be more like doctors learning 100 year old techniques to see what advice you get.
< 1393505446 874982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I used fungot's Perl babble generator to make up words at one point, by just interspersing in spaces before training, and  tr -d ' '  after output.
< 1393505447 62707 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: check the ,in command does.
< 1393505535 723285 :Speed``!~Speed@evile.thrash.im NICK :Speed`
< 1393505756 429829 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393507355 446499 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : -- HTML5 spec at w3.org.
< 1393507402 192684 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah, brilliant.
< 1393507811 157587 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would be great would be if Hixie added the -x- suffix to languages just for that purpose
< 1393507988 223937 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393508290 580493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: -x- is standard, afaik.
< 1393508307 991856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah, I'm wondering if hixie added it to the standard specifically for that purpose
< 1393508334 436202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the HTML standard does not control language codes
< 1393508521 825901 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1393511488 550401 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK spy agency intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/27/gchq-nsa-webcam-images-internet-yahoo
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< 1393512603 784060 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ The document estimates that between 3% and 11% of the Yahoo webcam imagery harvested by GCHQ contains "undesirable nudity". ]]
< 1393512611 601351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to all the desirable nudity.
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< 1393515365 270928 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1393515471 662765 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393516289 574218 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393516719 252512 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393516795 546183 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: well, if you collect the whole haystack, you're bound to also collect some muck, mold and other undesirables.
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< 1393518681 647735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on what day do we celebrate the feast of Saint Fungot?
< 1393518691 298642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you know?
< 1393518691 483718 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's on the talk page discusses them,
< 1393519476 423517 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does fungot even have a wiki article?
< 1393519476 715225 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: basil is the one with proper mark behavior and visualization of the stack could be popped and pushed etc...
< 1393519577 938224 :impomatic!~digital_w@78.69.90.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to the Sinclair Weekend in Cambridge on Saturday :-)
< 1393519672 173360 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi impomatic 
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< 1393519740 291751 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: does not fungot deserve a wiki page
< 1393519740 538289 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no, i don't care enough about country borders now to want to apply the subtraction operator on strings; meaningfully ofcourse
< 1393519882 7327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that's 100% perfectly grammatical up to the semicolon (allowing for the lowercase i)
< 1393520130 17582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I have to admit I've never happened to think about the idea.
< 1393520193 673635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Can you write your own page? 
< 1393520193 881044 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what is how? i assume, at least one snake?
< 1393520205 953857 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Yes, that's a reasonable assumption.
< 1393520206 343407 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and it hasn't showed up either :-p) if that's what you mean with properly?" at http://paste.lisp.org/ display/ 1080 myself
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< 1393521071 320438 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: approximately how many commands does fungot use atm? (i know it would be pointlessly tedious to actually count, but i suspect you can get an estimate quickly)
< 1393521071 519257 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: s/ _/)/ it's the 3d models.
< 1393521083 79068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `` sh -c "echo $LANG"
< 1393521088 710864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/`
< 1393521090 146689 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec bash -c "$1"
< 1393521093 454444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
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< 1393521367 241100 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I tried to do that first
< 1393521369 252910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but missed a space
< 1393521378 593367 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and came to the incorrect conclusion about why it didn't work
< 1393521392 611540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm
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< 1393522034 949185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source
< 1393522035 145621 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98
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< 1393522082 223871 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  fungot: Can you write your own page?   fizzie: what is how? i assume, at least one snake?
< 1393522082 582994 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: and sequences respond to .each, and they made it read as 3 characters) error i got was wet. not any closer to deciding what project to work on my irc skillz)
< 1393522085 64605 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1170)  fungot: Can you write your own page?   fizzie: what is how? i assume, at least one snake?
< 1393522098 996290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1393522099 184695 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
< 1393522127 349241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl
< 1393522127 552261 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006)
< 1393522632 552412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: at least one snake
< 1393522633 683643 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i would like to point out that, in reality, other expenditure will decrease sharply in the context of a diversified diet and in line with customs and traditions in this area as in many poor countries, the united kingdom experience would be valuable for the other members have said, that we were concerned, the two amendments, amendment nos 12 and 13.
< 1393522653 141459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what about amendment no 14?
< 1393522653 721939 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: madam president, by expressing the fnord rejection of a request made on 17 april 1996 whose purpose was to give birth to a law which has been taken up. but i would like to know whether the united states
< 1393522809 711264 :impomatic!~digital_w@78.69.90.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style lovecraft
< 1393522809 936419 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: lovecraft (H. P. Lovecraft's writings)
< 1393522821 674847 :impomatic!~digital_w@78.69.90.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what should I call my next corewar bot?
< 1393522822 289515 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: as my mind reeled amidst this chaos of intellectual and emotional groveling a few free souls have always stood out for the bungalow on the following day still travelled toward the hummock, though that is no reason to doubt the bulk of my fnord fnord for the titan mountains, might conceal.
< 1393522879 538979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : does fungot even have a wiki article? <-- NOW IT DOES
< 1393522880 136521 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i hardly knew whether to call them steps or mere footholds in a precipitous descent. my mind, akeleys whispered paragraphs had affected me profoundly, and he wondered, too, and had grown used to listening for sounds in the great southern desert of arabia, where irem, the city of gugs which is fnord with the keenest interest; noting from the relative quantities of various reagents on the shelves fascinated him unutterabl
< 1393522893 652445 :impomatic!~digital_w@78.69.90.146.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: thanks, but it needs to be under 25 characters.
< 1393522893 858326 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: poe's spectres thus acquired a convincing malignity possessed by none of their predecessors, and established a new standard of realism in the annals of my own presence in this terrible necropolis fnord the act of pausing with warren before a certain half- obliterated sepulcher and of throwing down some burdens which we seemed to have no ending. no trace of
< 1393522996 649320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are 8654 non-whitespace characters in the main source file, discounting the large block of comments in the end, and the settings-setter/loader that are in a separate file.
< 1393523012 537205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of those characters are part of strings, and some are inline comments.
< 1393523081 563478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i ended up lowercasing fizzie's nick but not fungot's
< 1393523081 824146 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i recall glimpsing the archway to the room of machines, within which were fantastic ruins of metal, half buried beneath fallen vaulting. everything was shadowy fnord, as lake had been giving throughout the preceding weeks, some of which were thickly covered with mystic symbols and formulae, historical notes and philosophical
< 1393523162 266214 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the code with all whitespace removed (and then reformatted to 80 columns) looks quite silly, http://sprunge.us/dZHK
< 1393523173 90265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite a lot of it seems to be actually strings.
< 1393523223 338352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also that's more like what a "proper" Befunge program "should" look like; a single dense block.)
< 1393523318 711230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh befunge actually has a standardized extension for sockets? cool
< 1393523333 202996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funge-98, if you want to be exact about it.
< 1393523339 506624 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge-93 doesn't have any extensions at all.
< 1393523427 132613 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: should we have a category for "programs written in esolangs". we do have a lot of pages which are dedicated to them. also, should the fungot page have a listing of fungot's commands?
< 1393523427 318233 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the lovecraft library wishes to extend its gratitude to eulogio garc�a recalde for transcribing this text. he had visited in his travels and who plainly claimed to be survivals or fnord of it.
< 1393523540 604534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i'm not against either of those
< 1393523608 472211 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1393523608 695884 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft* nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
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< 1393523857 789846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: FWIW, fungot does have a "manual" of sorts in the github README -- https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/README.md -- that a hypothetical page could link to.
< 1393523858 19451 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: arthur jermyn was the son of alfonso and rightful heir to the castle. to me, but i for one am tired of passing up the main deposits and merely seeking separate crystals out of jungle fnord. sometime i'll urge the wiping
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< 1393524015 686461 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, oerjan's busy making the page atm
< 1393524044 987255 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ^
< 1393524069 206746 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Are you feeling APPRECIATED? 
< 1393524069 392207 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: by h. p. lovecraft and c. m. eddy jr. the horned and hooved almost-humans, and the
< 1393524094 686750 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know H. P. Lovecraft was a horned and hooved almost-human, but it does explain some things.
< 1393524206 604169 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :All his writing was love comedies
< 1393524219 160758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um i thought i had already made it.
< 1393524467 516801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: i read that before somewhere
< 1393524518 88541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was at least a cracked.com list that mentioned a Lovecraft romantic comedy.
< 1393524544 103162 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: chainsawsuit
< 1393524583 502406 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://chainsawsuit.com/tag/h-p-wuvcraft/
< 1393524702 140529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely not what i recall reading
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< 1393530688 53369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :found on reddit a popular science article about the navier-stokes idea by terence tao that i linked the other day https://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20140224-a-fluid-new-path-in-grand-math-challenge/
< 1393530739 834011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i consider this idea on topic for this channel hth)
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< 1393531374 249380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :V. fancy.
< 1393531414 778850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ű
< 1393531421 299459 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[U+0171 LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH DOUBLE ACUTE]
< 1393531676 827274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The article comments weren't terribly impressive, though.
< 1393531725 129229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw here's the reddit comments http://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/1ytc4i/terence_tao_proposes_fluid_new_path_in/
< 1393531810 808941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: They seem more sensible than the "Perhaps Tao’s computer can serve as a model of the brain which might explain the origin of mind."
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< 1393531857 829323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think
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< 1393545726 982417 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah but I should have touched the file at least. mumble :)
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< 1393552883 295664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL you can authenticate to NickServ using a TLS client certificate
< 1393552902 195490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use SASL.
< 1393553349 694441 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I tried that but then i switched to le insecure plaintext communications (greetings to everyone sniffing this) because my client’s upgrade feature that doesn’t drop connections can not TLS.
< 1393553389 52855 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A flying squirrel was encountered on the sixth floor of a Finnish university. Photo: http://yle.fi/uutiset/todellinen_yllatys_yliopistolla__liito-orava_lensi_kuudenteen_kerrokseen/7111732
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< 1393556405 824095 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat http://www.reddit.com/r/Racket/comments/1z4ira/racket_psa/
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< 1393557832 764765 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: heh
< 1393557921 346985 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know why that was posted or what that has to do with anything
< 1393557928 446385 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know what's 'heh' about it, just... wat
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< 1393558087 808806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "I don't even know why that was posted or what that has to do with anything" >wisdom/sgeo
< 1393558127 711053 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you just overwrite my wisdom?
< 1393558186 73769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1393558198 982873 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp
< 1393558205 231696 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: this fact is not fun
< 1393558210 530187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = 1
< 1393558606 946160 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1393558961 263146 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is still upset about [1,1] being a singleton list.
< 1393558971 520004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O?
< 1393558977 627918 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in ML
< 1393558991 274648 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that an ocaml thing, I don't know.
< 1393558996 648970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it , the operator?
< 1393559022 559376 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it makes a tuple. In Haskell it'd be [(1,1)]
< 1393559082 246586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1393559084 483426 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And [1;1] would be a list of length 2.
< 1393559085 258778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A list is [1;1]?
< 1393559088 377408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
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< 1393563980 534340 :Effilry!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1393563987 685472 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :”When you look at the ingredients, if you can’t spell it or pronounce it, you probably shouldn’t eat it,” 
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< 1393564015 418198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah! fuck science!
< 1393564022 962242 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1393564024 165251 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: That’s an excellent measure.
< 1393564024 441558 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beyond the general silliness of that statement... I think many people can spell pretty much any word that they're looking at on a list of ingredients, at least while they're looking at it
< 1393564050 710566 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear they’re putting DHMO into many products these days. :-(
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< 1393565113 820177 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd rather eat food from a farmer prepared by a chef than from a geneticist prepared by a scientist.
< 1393565130 676659 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :science is good at lots of things..  but their optimization function on food is whack
< 1393565164 596580 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a farmer relevant in this case?
< 1393565178 255390 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about food from a farmer given seeds by a geneticist?
< 1393565190 619215 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: i'll take the non-gmo right now.
< 1393565195 502412 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe in 200yrs i'll be fine with the gmo's
< 1393565218 416451 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :early adopter gets the early worms
< 1393565260 803021 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, i'm not anti gmo, but i'm pretty anti all the companies pushing gmos down peoples throats while trying to conceal as much information as possible
< 1393565274 447801 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're optimizing profitability, not any useful utility function that i care about
< 1393565282 177149 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 330 seconds
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< 1393565291 7527 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like flavor, or nutrition, for example
< 1393565365 198598 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think companies are just trying their best to make the world a better place for you and me
< 1393565368 335206 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3
< 1393565377 65728 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be so cynical
< 1393565379 557767 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're ok, oklopol.
< 1393565380 568968 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantity is a useful thing to attempt to maximize, and that gets accomplished at least partially, if not fully, when profit is being maximized for
< 1393565401 733438 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: huh?  how do you figure that profit and quality correlate.
< 1393565412 815214 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantity.
< 1393565417 276186 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going to complain aabout science food at least do something really bad, like factory farms
< 1393565422 893797 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh quantity, my bad
< 1393565440 652208 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantity and quality usually do correlate
< 1393565442 408020 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:08] < Sgeo_> âWhen you look at the ingredients, if you canât spell it or pronounce it, you probably shouldnât eat it,â 
< 1393565449 588591 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although perhaps inversely)
< 1393565462 259153 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: that seems like a reasonable thing to complain about ^^^
< 1393565472 800128 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true, i avoid durians, but not high fructose corn syrupt
< 1393565481 76129 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since most of the things you cant pronounce werent put there for anything other than preserving shelf life to increase profit 
< 1393565485 690828 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never remember the difference between inverse and converse. Just that inverse+converse=contrapositive which iff the original statement
< 1393565490 255613 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to make food look artificially more appealing than it would otherwise
< 1393565495 688046 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mo like obverse, imo
< 1393565515 241705 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what, the frog fractions fruit?
< 1393565534 187203 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's... an actual durain fruit
< 1393565542 727755 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like normal cane sugar..  why we gotta go with the HFCS is beyond me..  but.. i bet in the long run we'll find HFCS is not so bad for us, but that the impurities left aorund in manufacturing perhaps are...
< 1393565564 118147 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at any rate, no need to rush into being an early adopter of not-well-tested chemical foods
< 1393565571 161557 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: lol did you seriously not know
< 1393565598 365399 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I knew at one point then forgot
< 1393565612 667167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Singapore_MRT_Fines.jpg/471px-Singapore_MRT_Fines.jpg
< 1393565627 223659 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Durians are not fine. Good to know.
< 1393565635 969896 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some disgusting durian candy
< 1393565661 582830 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i assume the fine is infinite
< 1393565690 500911 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no objection to time-tested disgusting fruit candies
< 1393565697 437801 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as they have been well vetted :)
< 1393565723 284190 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you tell a good durian from a bad one?
< 1393565737 239663 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if durians go bad do they start smelling good?
< 1393565750 846175 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393565757 535284 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all bad because i can't pronounce the name correctly
< 1393565789 3773 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :earle grey + durian == durian grey tea?
< 1393565845 888552 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike++
< 1393565875 858482 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i avoid jabuticaba in favor of nice simple niacinamide for the same reason
< 1393565885 798673 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :chemistry nomenclature is, imo, so easy.
< 1393565895 407400 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fruits are all this weird foreign shit. can't deal w/it.
< 1393565966 294697 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you eat an omena
< 1393565967 665339 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, fruits are like, full of chemicals? i mean most of the time you can't even figure out their relative concentrations or they vary crazily between fruits, even from the same tree! it's insane. no way i'm gonna eat that shit.
< 1393565974 163459 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://foodbabe.com/2012/07/30/why-its-time-to-throw-out-your-microwave/
< 1393565982 325470 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this the same person who did the Subway thing?
< 1393565983 209888 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike; avoiding fruits you cant pronounce also seems like a good policy
< 1393565991 463069 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stick with what you know.. never venture outside the bubble!
< 1393565997 668628 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn right
< 1393566010 36091 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but seriously the pronunciation thing is a stupid-ass rule. i'm out of sarcasm
< 1393566031 974961 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :". For the experiment pictured above, microwaved water produced a similar physical structure to when the words “satan” and “hitler” were repeatedly exposed to the water. This fact is probably too hokey for most people – but I wanted to include it because sometimes the things we can’t see with the naked eye or even fully comprehend could be the most powerful way to unlock spontaneous healing."
< 1393566047 54772 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, science
< 1393566091 773264 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393566144 867605 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they elaborate on "unlock spontaneous healing"
< 1393566158 142409 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nature has a lot of chemicals in it in general. did you know that salicylic acid was originally found in a tree?? trees are just handing this stuff out! kids could get at
< 1393566188 652390 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can't even sue trees for unsafe practices. trust me, i've tried.
< 1393566196 270246 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: eating stuff from a source you dont know that contains ingredients you arent familiar sounds like a reasonable cause for suspicion and caution to me
< 1393566222 912434 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. We should be suspicious of such people.
< 1393566228 169103 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again i still tink its neat that theres a guy who lives off eating only raw lambs that he slaughters himself
< 1393566231 298878 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've only eaten food i know the source of a few times, since my family's house as a cherry tree. thus, i know for a fact it is 80% coyote shit by mass.
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< 1393566252 861365 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cherries are 80% coyote shit?
< 1393566258 73706 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1393566263 951610 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love cherries!
< 1393566276 158846 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should have investigated where you were getting them first.
< 1393566277 670322 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to put coyote shit into other fruits?
< 1393566281 579125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone offer to host the wiki so I can get out of this godforsaken channel
< 1393566281 879590 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have that ultra expensive coffee that's shit through a civet first
< 1393566288 593252 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kopi kopi luwak
< 1393566299 134386 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's when you do it twice.
< 1393566303 259050 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :takes 4 ever
< 1393566310 294948 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if I eat an apple. Is the ingredient just 'apple', which I'm familiar with, or all the things that went into it?
< 1393566321 691071 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what happens if I see 'apple' on another ingredient list?
< 1393566325 293779 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How deep do I have to go?
< 1393566330 729034 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i demand coyote shit be put on all ingredients lists
< 1393566345 334335 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: if you want to make an apple pie from scratch you must first invent the universe
< 1393566430 326792 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, ghcq implements orwell's telescreens
< 1393566438 129400 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gchq even
< 1393568535 829149 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393569379 464516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Garbage collection headquarters.
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< 1393569488 745136 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :While I agree that it is good practice to check input data in SQL queries, php stops those kinds of injections per default. https://github.com/BarrensZeppelin/ltglan/issues/1
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< 1393569737 730797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Let me guess, the uploaded fix is going to call some mysql_escape instead of using a parametrized query? 
< 1393569755 822796 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: In fact it seems it was. :-D
< 1393569797 157734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_;
< 1393569836 926956 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't really understand why php.net's documentation on mysql_real_escape_string doesn't mention parameters.
< 1393569882 335661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except in a late user-contributed note.
< 1393569892 491270 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Then again, this is the language with magic_quotes.)
< 1393569953 105101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : A flying squirrel was encountered on the sixth floor of a Finnish university. Photo: http://yle.fi/uutiset/todellinen_yllatys_yliopistolla__liito-orava_lensi_kuudenteen_kerrokseen/7111732 <-- are you _sure_ that's not a pokemon
< 1393570046 188472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something escaped from a manga somewhere
< 1393570203 239894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it had been so silent the last days i thought the building craftsmen outside had finished their work, but no.  (admittedly a car was suspiciously present.)
< 1393570266 983280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i'm not sure craftsmen is the right word.
< 1393570299 259932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've  done a lot of digging, sawing and hammering, though.
< 1393570327 387372 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: https://github.com/BarrensZeppelin/ltglan/commit/071e9
< 1393570442 27075 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D
< 1393570450 517822 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, apparently it's norwegian too
< 1393570462 728968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what is
< 1393570474 121058 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the PHP software with the bugs
< 1393570483 937261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking :(
< 1393570491 367456 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, or possibly danish
< 1393570529 666584 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how to tell written danish from norwegian
< 1393570543 496738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can if you paste some
< 1393570564 964362 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Opret en bruger og log ind først. :)"
< 1393570571 280958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's danish
< 1393570593 569272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegian would be "Opprett en bruker og logg inn først. :)"
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< 1393570889 935803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i think the general trick of "does it have single consonants where you'd expect double, and voiced consonants where you expect unvoiced" works for comparing with swedish as well?
< 1393570991 329870 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, I just read it and see if it's swedish or not
< 1393571010 500240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was trying to give you a method here, olsner 
< 1393571110 607901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, both have strange vowels to a swede, but danish has stranger consonants.
< 1393571155 869652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a sense that is "soft"
< 1393571173 185625 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you meant for norwegian vs danish? I was talking about swedish/other things
< 1393571197 110721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's much easier :P
< 1393571263 925578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just look for åäö and lots of a in the last syllable of words
< 1393571300 611301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs. æøå and nearly exclusively e
< 1393571320 802012 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL danish :) is norwegian :)
< 1393571328 963196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: shocking
< 1393571334 128583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why would i expect double consonants
< 1393571339 962626 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ck instead of kk is swedish too
< 1393571369 816672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i am comparing to swedish/norwegian, so you do need to know one of those first
< 1393571378 224115 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: to indicate vowel length
< 1393571388 91876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yeah, also x instead of ks
< 1393571405 403313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: will english do
< 1393571419 425167 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :old english might?
< 1393571444 463764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not very well, maybe for testing the other way
< 1393571450 454981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is that what they speak in old york
< 1393571472 454812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bruker
< 1393571477 75424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how am i supposed to guess that
< 1393571479 72015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also nynorsk messes up the vowels again, the a test triggers on that too.
< 1393571512 111152 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you just make up your minds on that whole nynorsk/bokmål thing already?
< 1393571554 116091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry
< 1393571683 357353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but perhaps vaguely, if you have a commonly inherited word of the kind where english doubles the final consonant when adding an ending, then you would be more likely to find the consonant single in danish and double in swedish/norwegian.  very vaguely.
< 1393571723 736684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like english stop/stopping, danish stop, swedish/norwegian stopp
< 1393571949 544141 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Agda safety: we last proved false on April 18th 2012 ."
< 1393572004 293465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1393572080 933887 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :
< 1393572089 327583 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when was the last time someone proved false in coq
< 1393572166 144164 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea. I'm mostly hoping that Agda has comprehendible tutorials
< 1393572236 408315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : earle grey + durian == durian grey tea?
< 1393572242 772170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats newsham_ -----###
< 1393572342 37167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : would you eat an omena <-- probably not, sounds omenous
< 1393572387 823093 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed
< 1393572532 614452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google pictures reveals the secret of omena
< 1393572600 835119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then google translate confirms
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< 1393573247 673098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://meatfighter.com/nintendotetrisai/ is impressive
< 1393573354 624463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i like how this subroutine AC82 implements a jump table in-line with code
< 1393573646 782252 :MoALTz__!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393573694 315377 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So does the PHP opcode execute PHP code?"
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< 1393574798 899144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393574801 578582 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :convercoin schinedcoin lerarrowwongcoin eversitcoin falecoin condocoin ardcoin braincoin dupdoorcoin glashtfoylcoin 4dihycoin mercroncoin dificoin phedcoin lamberrectorcoin cipectcoin clubitcoin hysiacoin opecoin objectrancoin
< 1393574870 410308 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Braincoins are all in your head.
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< 1393582127 575298 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@gateway/shell/cadoth.net/x-uveqsnzswdmfxrqj QUIT :Changing host
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< 1393582412 975257 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h NICK :[tester]
< 1393582416 66464 :[tester]!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h NICK :hexagon
< 1393584734 410224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i install hlint and try it on my recent Tag2ResPair.hs, and the only suggestion is something i already decided against just to drop an import.
< 1393584754 886468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess my haskell isn't so bad.
< 1393585827 269695 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3611536 well that clears things up.
< 1393585920 690613 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's paywalled isn't it, oh well http://pastebin.com/rNydqGG7
< 1393585936 59791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a pretty loud ad too
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< 1393586345 214525 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud
< 1393586345 409540 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
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< 1393588559 651477 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lewd
< 1393588559 836581 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
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< 1393592081 903391 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you implement the loop construct for Brainfuck?
< 1393592109 869402 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[...+]?
< 1393592140 536892 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, last + is not even necessary
< 1393592153 890819 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393592154 765705 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may not get the question, though
< 1393592189 955649 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing a quick and dirty interpretter in Python :)
< 1393592219 979795 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically when you have a [ you need to record it so you can jump back to it if the cell value is non-zero
< 1393592232 857812 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to think of a nice way of implementing that bit
< 1393592270 203039 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :push the adresse of [ on the stack
< 1393592305 773074 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pop at ], jump at poped position if cell is not zero
< 1393592319 626172 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's exactly what I just read on Stackoverflow just now too
< 1393592321 122223 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks :)
< 1393592425 194068 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your interpreter doesn't involve module re and eval, it isn't dirty
< 1393592453 117709 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, use bitshifting
< 1393592460 265256 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393592463 50226 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trastrecoin backcoin bromereturniceredcoacherelairequecoin fracktrcoin catchcoin hanisorecoin cleacoin hydricucoin freimaccoin markgrassuscoin unweakcoin lord!cpucoin karacoin dingintercalambdocoin scoledcoin c-logycoin mdpncoin smahocoin infuchcoin haifausiocoin
< 1393592564 364622 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpucoin can only be mined by cpus
< 1393592625 370517 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am half CPU on my mother's side
< 1393592679 973094 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Quiz: what distro do bitcoin miners use?)
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< 1393594139 229975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bromereturniceredcoacherelairequecoin"
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< 1393594664 668218 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
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< 1393594799 653031 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? brome-return-ice-red-coacher-e-la-i-re-que-coin?
< 1393594805 939146 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
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< 1393594923 213497 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins
< 1393594926 102374 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :attacoin cunticoin ooederivitespringlencoin hargfcoin eviatefuccefcoin docurcoin rufacoin confimicoin emoontcoin coiucoin eviacoin goto++coin jumpcoin excelumcoin coolcoin fungecoin dcrabcoin hachcoin gemacoin miegnecoin
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< 1393595119 288630 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though the sound of it is something quite too conjoin
< 1393595606 802406 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo! eder vite springlen coin
< 1393595616 30891 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hargfcoin
< 1393595695 901853 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jumpcoin! Coolcoin; attacoin.
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< 1393595748 585756 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungecoin probably has multiple dimensions
< 1393595867 33196 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :attacoin sounds tidy.
< 1393595900 578011 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but it might be an aggressive oin)
< 1393595908 28269 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's some I got from a language model I trained to Hungarian: csúrdacoin ecoin vincssncoin surocoin acoin jajcoin tömdelcoin ídcoin megcoin acoin eecoin mothcoin nomagcoin rircoin szoúszobcoin kelyóezörgyecoin magosjántakcoin
< 1393595913 124805 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogyitlamcoin boncoin opjácoin szetdicoin verkedcoin asláncoin szukbakjadsucoin fuzcoin mellbfcoin nepolorcoin dértentcoin enecoin kércoin erszecoin nakámcoin keddemcoin fuzjánbájtódcoin saraszcoin haldalcoin lagycoin rondcoin téleletcoin acoin dölbelelcoin taláncoin piszracoin bemcoin éstakcoin semcoin lelecoin holcoin vércoin szorötcoin iniscoin hermetincoin acoin agáryjecoin röspepfcoin mapnancoin közgemcoin zrcoin 
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< 1393596733 622497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can switch languages with `coins directly.
< 1393596735 494316 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --italian 20
< 1393596737 30912 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coprinticoin escecoin colancilecoin rimentatocoin invecchicoin dipandogliacoin stavacoin uscollecoin pesecoin esplosecoin famentòcoin giunghicoin venereretecoin vertunacoin dubitersocoin sturbiterecoin seremmocoin rececoin tumultiacoin prosciatocoin
< 1393596743 222284 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words -l
< 1393596744 409376 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M
< 1393596763 485383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :To any of those; the default is --eng-1M --esolangs.
< 1393596782 897475 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --ogerman
< 1393596784 338114 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rückkoppen
< 1393596793 372717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --ogerman 10
< 1393596794 994324 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :standbestecoin bergrößecoin dikanneratenkworatcoin exekulattgruppecoin maschafecoin schwencoin stersatzcoin heanfangriftcoin eingengengeleuchencoin angcoin
< 1393596812 292080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least bergrößecoin sounds q. impressive.
< 1393596876 234899 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Entgegengegangen is a German word that looks p. silly when written out in cursive.
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< 1393596974 517210 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :My god Brainfuck is slow
< 1393596981 703075 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it's my implementation
< 1393596986 61371 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is kw even a valid sound in german
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< 1393597037 370199 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find any examples, not even in loanwords like http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superkalifragilistischexpiallegetisch
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< 1393597155 281593 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1393597169 226215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: It might have come from an abbreviation like Nkw.
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< 1393597217 524813 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's multiple words, like dikanner-atenk-worat-coin 
< 1393597229 725807 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though atenk is suspicious
< 1393597260 822457 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :tenk seems like a syllable that a computer might imagine to be valid
< 1393597289 894865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's character trigrams, like I remember, it won't have that much context.
< 1393597361 285095 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just needs .. "ate" "ten" "enk" "nkw" "kwo" "wor" .. to exist at least once in the dictionary in order for that to be possible to generate.
< 1393597465 369091 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bacta is observing the classic tradeoff between implementation complexity and performance.
< 1393597493 969575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And both nkw and kwo do appear: http://sprunge.us/jRWe
< 1393597505 321369 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Compounds, all.)
< 1393597571 823674 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would imagine that most german words are compound, due to combinatorics
< 1393597616 815170 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kw wouldn't make sense in german, you would write qu
< 1393597693 351256 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: There are no optimizations I can make to this code either...
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< 1393597821 936683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++++++[>++++++++>+++++++>++++++++>++<<<<-]>>.>++.<-.++++++++.<--.>---.>+++.<---.<---.>>>++++.<<++++++.>--.>.<.<++++++.>>.<.<<+.>.>++++.
< 1393597822 122386 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is so slow
< 1393597825 640512 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seemed p. fast.
< 1393597845 712043 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck isn't slow at all
< 1393597854 553583 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck has no random access memory
< 1393597861 313063 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence it is pretty fucking slow
< 1393597871 382587 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem is, it needs pretty many commands to achieve stuff
< 1393597903 343351 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: huh?
< 1393597907 313270 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah! But there are optimizations you can perform if you want to do more analysis of the source before you interpret it
< 1393597943 512281 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a brainfuck interpreter in assembly, it wasn't slow at all
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< 1393597951 845450 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck
< 1393597956 794136 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[15:31:34]  I wonder, are there any optimized bf compilers?
< 1393597957 11934 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[15:31:45]  Like translating ++++++++++++++ into pointer + whatever
< 1393597957 197628 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[15:31:51]  And such things
< 1393597962 196479 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1393597972 988779 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are quite many optimizing bf compilers.
< 1393597979 227726 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much every brainfuck compiler that isn't a golf entry
< 1393598011 217793 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another standard optimization is for loops that have no net tape movement
< 1393598061 634210 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://code.google.com/p/esotope-bfc/ is one well-known optimizing compiler.
< 1393598067 334451 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm assuming you can't do any parallelism given it's shared "memory"?
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< 1393598154 42195 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shared memory is not the problem for parallelism, the single instruction pointer is.
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< 1393598176 117400 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 NICK :Slereah_
< 1393598178 698791 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do a multitape BF
< 1393598179 761518 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just multihead
< 1393598182 745538 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was I saying
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< 1393598223 262222 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although
< 1393598268 8198 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are concerned about high performance in brainfuck, though
< 1393598331 887646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393598387 599201 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have parallel brainfuck on a single tape
< 1393598387 823609 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens when you have to branch!
< 1393598387 823772 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if one tries to put in a 0 and the other encounters a ]
< 1393598387 823863 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How else will I code Crysis in Brainfuck otherwise
< 1393598387 823953 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna need a pretty good Brainfuck video card
< 1393598475 796806 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: try some extended brainfuck that lets you escape to native code, or a buggy brainfuck interpreter that doesn't check tape limits and lets you get control by smashing the stack or something
< 1393598533 825340 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best idea would probably be not brainfuck
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< 1393598562 836841 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That situation doesn't sound any different from plain old shared-memory parallelism you get on, you know, regular multicore computers.
< 1393598584 425726 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens? MESI happens.
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< 1393599120 111556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a sudden thought
< 1393599129 363349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are brainfuck derivatives the same sort of concept as monad tutorials?
< 1393599537 844264 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean, are they analogous to analogies?
< 1393599653 27848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch
< 1393599709 463189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant more along the lines of "new person discovers «Haskell/esolangs», struggles for a while, thinks they understand «it/them» after some thought, writes a «monad tutorial/BF derivative»"
< 1393600252 625759 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a reverse shibboleth, if there is such a thing.
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< 1393613810 452020 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help
< 1393613810 757584 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
< 1393614787 783165 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask zzo38 What do you think of the subroutine AC82 documented in http://meatfighter.com/nintendotetrisai/
< 1393614787 968402 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1393614827 628941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. cool subroutine imo
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< 1393615211 787764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if compilers for modern architectures ever do that
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< 1393615412 567532 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's clever
< 1393615688 234884 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARM has these table branch instructions (TBB / TBH) that you can use for a similar thing, by using the program counter (r15) as the table base
< 1393615700 315608 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is what gcc 4.6 does, according to http://gcc.godbolt.org/
< 1393615772 477597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even then it's only a 1 or 2 byte relative branch; for an arbitrary target you still need to branch to a branch instruction
< 1393615941 597715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any particular benefit in sticking the jump table targets "inline", except maybe some cache locality matters for combined data/instruction ones? 
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< 1393616058 357480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to load the address of the jump table
< 1393616132 758818 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd think that on x86-64 you could do just  lea rX, [rip]; jmp [rX + K + 8*rY]  followed by the table contents.
< 1393616214 463437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The call-pop construct gets criticized because it breaks the hardware-optimized return stack used for branch-predicting ret's targets.
< 1393616228 64151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1393616230 206769 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I assume that's not an issue on the 6502.)
< 1393616237 957292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect not :)
< 1393616280 114192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though somebody has probably designed a superscalar OOE 6502 just for laffs
< 1393616376 315833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`as86 lea rbx, [rip]; jmp [rbx+8*rax+4]
< 1393616377 365017 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :488d1d00000000ff64c304
< 1393616463 480093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the rip-relative form always has a 32-bit displacement attached to it, I guess. :/
< 1393616638 897118 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can move that 4-byte displacement into it, at least. But it's still one whopper of an instruction (pair).
< 1393617013 160623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 bytes isn't that big by the standards of x86 instructions :)
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< 1393617151 62223 :miguel!~canaima@186.92.134.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola alguna chica londa x aki 
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< 1393617242 94105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido miguel 
< 1393617243 361685 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :miguel: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.)
< 1393617267 223898 :miguel!~canaima@186.92.134.18 PART :#esoteric
< 1393617273 504237 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was just looking for a hot girl
< 1393617283 599322 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think he cared about programming languages
< 1393617298 553075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. `bienvenido is so efficient.
< 1393617398 775975 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1393617399 394260 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin
< 1393617426 812853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION briefly wonders if oteric means something suspicious in es-pañol, but google doesn't know about it
< 1393617441 841446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :including with -o/a appended
< 1393617494 753743 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1393617545 406172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the "x" meant to stand for in that sentence
< 1393617591 381179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was wondering about that too.  i was guessing "exista" or thereabouts
< 1393617602 63610 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393617627 21519 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a stretch for "equis"
< 1393617634 796567 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x is slang for por
< 1393617637 263460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not a spanish speaking 14 year old in search of a chica linda
< 1393617655 394574 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1393617680 841195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he said "aki" so obviously he doesn't care about spelling
< 1393617684 819501 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1393617704 695125 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because x is like multiplication and 2 x 2 is pronounced dos por dos
< 1393617704 880174 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1393617710 105219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't exactly know spanish chatting slang
< 1393617729 66940 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only know from video game servers
< 1393617740 907307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um what's equis supposed to mean
< 1393617750 87422 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spanish people really like ragnarok online
< 1393617772 331566 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mexican i mean
< 1393617807 683461 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys
< 1393617819 16345 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I fuck around in x86-64
< 1393617819 279027 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: spanish name for the letter "x"
< 1393617829 733428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: how do you mean
< 1393617836 219280 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a virtual machine that boots on some program in x86-64 that I write
< 1393617836 404602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh
< 1393617850 77885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: you want to run code without an OS?
< 1393617855 302028 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1393617859 634429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... complicated
< 1393617868 880833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna dump some links at you
< 1393617880 764117 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least a non-obtrusive OS
< 1393617889 575836 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like MS DOS for ol' timey x86
< 1393617902 281217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://templeos.org/
< 1393617907 381566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :be careful what you wish for
< 1393617914 223178 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1393617918 842104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wiki.osdev.org/Main_Page http://www.returninfinity.com/pure64.html http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/6.828/2012/
< 1393617928 670862 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott : COME ON MONKEY PAW
< 1393617942 258721 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks.
< 1393617944 963466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess http://www.templeos.org/Wb/Accts/TS/Wb2/TempleOS.html is the slightly less useful link now
< 1393617948 154338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er
< 1393617950 86490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :less useless.
< 1393617962 272165 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: what means "obtrusive"? you can write x86-64 assembly for Linux pretty easily, and it's much less work to make something cool than doing it on "bare metal"
< 1393617966 520362 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do like coding in x86, but I do want to try out some x64 too
< 1393617995 724820 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a start it has more bloody registers.
< 1393618004 831261 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc : Doesn't the OS block a bunch of things?
< 1393618022 37537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some sense an OS is the opposite of obtrusive... it provides the illusion of a machine much simpler and more capable than the "real thing"
< 1393618025 50244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: like what?
< 1393618040 522689 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Access to ports, parts of the memory, self modifying code
< 1393618148 523436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can usually opt into self-modifying code
< 1393618161 160447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's disabled by default for security reasons)
< 1393618163 916326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Direct access to hardware, yes (for some values of), but that's only a problem if you really fancy writing drivers.
< 1393618177 320634 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want
< 1393618180 440309 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ULTIMATE POWEEEER
< 1393618199 300575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will find that things are fantastically complicated and it will be an extreme amount of effort to make anything work at all
< 1393618207 747134 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am aware!
< 1393618209 59911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mean to discourage you but you should know what you're getting into
< 1393618219 665116 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I am already coding things in x86
< 1393618233 143612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "platform" is far more complex than the instruction set itself
< 1393618247 106226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an OS hides that complexity and gives you a simple more friendly platform
< 1393618251 870129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :simple osdev isn't really that difficult, just very tedious and annoying
< 1393618285 594457 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just kinda like trying to do things from the ground up
< 1393618308 288856 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://davidad.github.io/blog/2014/02/18/kernel-from-scratch/ Slereah_ 
< 1393618312 380595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: get to the silicon mines then ;)
< 1393618327 982195 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no silicone mines!
< 1393618331 521320 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all sand and shit
< 1393618343 364600 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :silicone and silicon are not the same ._.
< 1393618346 691260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: nice
< 1393618357 906900 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes
< 1393618361 343605 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In english, at least)
< 1393618366 640178 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In French, silicone is silicone
< 1393618371 348843 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And silicone is silicium
< 1393618374 231479 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is here where i mention that the Czochralski process is really cool
< 1393618374 436934 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :silicon*
< 1393618380 657615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one problem is that the BIOS (which is basically an OS/library in ROM) becomes much harder to access once you leave real mode
< 1393618395 936614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes doing any kind of I/O a lot harder
< 1393618401 181263 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I wouldn't mind building my own little computer, I don't think I could build much
< 1393618401 721236 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"aren't you sposed to use UEFI now"
< 1393618410 372088 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of scale issues
< 1393618424 351103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: you might like those MIT courses 6.828 and 6.004
< 1393618433 274859 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the former you write large parts of a kernel
< 1393618438 70205 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of computer can you build from off the shelf electronic components?
< 1393618440 930278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the latter you design a processor at the logic gate level and then optimize it
< 1393618457 450965 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're way too fucking big to do much with
< 1393618481 163245 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although
< 1393618487 832204 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I could make a tiny Brainfuck computer
< 1393618493 451562 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get computers from shelves.
< 1393618494 647652 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bam.
< 1393618496 760024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can find many projects online of people building computers from discrete logic chips
< 1393618502 504744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are usually simple 8-bit things
< 1393618513 755867 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can make a "real CPU" with arithmetic, branching, etc.
< 1393618518 950154 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know
< 1393618539 972111 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard somebody actually breadboarded the 6.004 processor at one point
< 1393618553 275765 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is like a 32-bit version of the Alpha (simplified further I'm sure)
< 1393618555 455473 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a torture method where they drown you in dough?
< 1393618561 390127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1393618614 320942 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why was my first thought on hwo to explain breadboards 'well, imagine a cribbage board, and'
< 1393618617 208354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I strongly recommend learning x86-64 assembly in friendly userspace before you try to write an OS
< 1393618628 921017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you might want to write most of the OS in a higher level language anyway
< 1393618648 126361 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who said anything about an Os
< 1393618681 252439 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also yeah I guess I might want to just write some stuff in C and then half-compile it and look at the assembly file
< 1393618696 250350 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And modify it some
< 1393618697 259153 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're writing without one, whatever you write is arguably an OS.
< 1393618703 31275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: have you seen http://gcc.godbolt.org/
< 1393618729 478535 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I don't plan to do any threads or file management or spinning skulls
< 1393618740 363776 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc : Thanks!
< 1393618741 708693 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't have any spinning skulls then what's even the point?
< 1393618756 482452 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you should write an OS designed for GPUs
< 1393618762 819876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :be sure to try the "Colourise" button
< 1393618804 480477 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gifmix.net/gif.php?image=skull-gifs/TOTENKOPF047.GIF
< 1393618819 85101 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mytinyphone.com/uploads/users/cacique/101455.gif
< 1393618820 289684 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man
< 1393618823 179654 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do miss the 90's
< 1393619165 729390 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :   And silicone is silicium
< 1393619167 933745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the web is certainly worse off now that every page doesn't have a http://www.jadefrolics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/under-construction-sign-animated1.gif in it.
< 1393619169 669701 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and here it's 'kisel'
< 1393619193 869549 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole silicon/e thing in english took me a while to understand
< 1393619213 285805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"kisel (plural kisels): A dessert, an acidulated jelly, made by cooking fruit or berry juice, milk or water, and flour, common in Slavic and Baltic countries as well as Finland."
< 1393619218 680490 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie : Also the little gif of a letter going into an enveloppe and into a mailbox
< 1393619283 807068 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silicon is, for whatever reason, "pii" in Finnish.
< 1393619303 759181 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pee
< 1393619341 750142 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also the same as π.)
< 1393619352 333288 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like the etymology of "silicone" is dumb. It's a siloxane, not a ketone...
< 1393619382 126972 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crystal doesn't have a crystaline structure!
< 1393619403 829324 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, what.
< 1393619442 70270 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And neutrinos aren't small neutrons!
< 1393619501 299244 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are small and neutral, though.
< 1393619514 439312 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is Switzerland
< 1393619943 658279 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can figure out, the etymology for the Finnish "pii" for silicon comes from the fact that "pii" had a (now no longer used) meaning of 'tooth' or any sort of spike in a tool, so a type of flint useful for toolmaking got called "piikivi" ("kivi" being rock/stone), and those contain silicon compounds.
< 1393620006 954636 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :da piikivi being of course an anagram of wikipedia
< 1393620011 378561 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vikipedia
< 1393620066 489931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a "Finnish version" of Uncyclopedia called Hikipedia (lit. "Sweat-pedia").
< 1393620105 869609 :Speed``!~Speed@evile.thrash.im NICK :Speed`
< 1393620221 375841 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Sir Humphry Davy proposed the name "silicium" for silicon, from the Latin silex, silicis for flint, flints, and adding the "-ium" ending because he believed it was a metal' argh
< 1393620227 39485 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, whatever, it's not as bad as hydrogen.
< 1393620273 164182 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Metals, metalloids, who cares.
< 1393620287 928229 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a semiconductor
< 1393620289 468626 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Close enough
< 1393620299 550219 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm pretty sure back in the days, "metal" had a different definition
< 1393620324 771697 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The meaning of "metal" differs for various communities. For example, astronomers use the blanket term "metal" for convenience to collectively describe all elements other than hydrogen and helium "
< 1393620325 939704 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See?
< 1393620328 702124 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's totally a metal
< 1393620457 887974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1393620476 132915 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course, diamond is the hardest metal
< 1393620480 838399 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it is made of carbon
< 1393620533 300516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SiliconCroda.jpg   to be fair, that does look p. metal.
< 1393620590 669730 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :really i'm more annoyed at silicone. chemist really ought to not just name something as a ketone because it's vaguely analogous to a ketone
< 1393620638 527811 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Systematic names in chemistry is a pretty recent thing anyway
< 1393620704 119273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  And neutrinos aren't small neutrons!   They are small and neutral, though.   So is Switzerland
< 1393620706 814125 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1171)  And neutrinos aren't small neutrons!   They are small and neutral, though.   So is Switzerland
< 1393620730 205810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also known as "Switzerino".
< 1393620759 781296 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he named it after benzophenone. that's not IUPAC systematic but it's still proto-system.
< 1393620760 125635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually, that sounds like a derogatory term.)
< 1393620932 66761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc metal is from the greek for mine
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< 1393621913 155367 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like it https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%BC%CE%AD%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%BB%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%BD#Ancient_Greek
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< 1393625269 841723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what's bad? that gasoline is called "benzene" or "naptha" in some countries/languages
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< 1393625603 262124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy Australian mailman mailing list reminders day!
< 1393625611 651234 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 
< 1393625644 331561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia
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< 1393625749 261768 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you on about now?
< 1393625772 798979 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the " happy Australian mailman mailing list reminders day!" thing?
< 1393625778 348500 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1393625796 358781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a joke #esoteric tradition; the mailing list server software Mailman send out reminders on the first of every month
< 1393625798 816698 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what? whyyyy
< 1393625805 718559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and several of us are subscribed to Mailman mailing lists hosted in Australia
< 1393625815 325508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the reminders come out on the last of every month instead
< 1393625832 312650 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that actually the active component there? i thought in us gasoline at least it was octane
< 1393625879 875285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hebrew for example
< 1393625895 781990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think octane's the largest component of most gasoline/petrol
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< 1393627695 638159 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, is it mailman day already?
< 1393627719 507843 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is the TUHS mailing list (also .au)
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< 1393628115 178362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It's "bensiini"/"bensa" in Finnish, and yes, it's probably not a good name.
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< 1393628331 435279 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Etymology: From Swedish /bensin/, from German /Benzin/, from benzoe + -in." So it's not our fault! 
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< 1393629939 524966 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Polish it's benzyna
< 1393629952 789381 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably from German
< 1393630025 213197 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, apparently from French
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< 1393630801 617413 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freenode's having fun today, I see :-)
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