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00:02:13 <ion> boily: Try naga jolokia next. That’s fun.
00:05:45 <oerjan> seems like the bhut of many practical jokes.
00:07:37 <lexande> oerjan: <3 frozen pizza
00:08:04 <oerjan> such crunchy goodness. but bad for teeth.
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00:08:48 <lexande> oerjan: is frozen pizza cheap in .no?
00:09:03 <oerjan> no food is cheap in .no.
00:09:03 <lexande> or wherever you are
00:09:23 <lexande> in .uk frozen pizza was approximately the cheapest food, i could get a frozen pizza that weighed a pound and cost a pound
00:09:41 <lexande> here in .us frozen pizza is annoyingly expensive, buying prepared pizza is actually cheaper!
00:10:16 <oerjan> ok norway is not _that_ bad.
00:10:22 <boily> frozen pizza is around CAD 7.
00:10:43 <lexande> i can get a decent slice of hot prepared pizza for $1
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00:11:17 <lexande> well, the place offering this near my house closes at midnights, though others elsewhere in the city are open all hours
00:12:41 <oerjan> iirc the pizzas i buy are about $10, but they're not the cheapest, the cheapest don't get me full...
00:12:53 <shachaf> i heard norwegian pizzas are v. expensive
00:13:05 <shachaf> i think the price i heard was ~$30
00:13:26 <oerjan> that would be in a restaurant.
00:13:44 <shachaf> yes
00:14:11 <oerjan> i think the small size is cheaper than that in the restaurant i like to go to, but i rarely buy pizza there.
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00:19:35 <Sgeo> Is vim particularly likbut tather know-and-peck?
00:19:37 <Sgeo> n't really touch-type, but rather know-and-peck?
00:19:44 <Sgeo> Hmm, the gibberish that just got typed in didn't go through, according to the logs?
00:19:50 <Sgeo> Um.
00:19:55 <Sgeo> fungot: hi
00:19:55 <fungot> Sgeo: then how about assigning ' fnord'. what does. :d
00:19:59 <Sgeo> ) 'hi'
00:20:01 <oerjan> that looked pretty gibberish to me
00:20:07 <Phantom_Hoover> oh Sgeo
00:20:25 <Sgeo> It.... seems like it took a while for anything to go from my client to channel
00:20:40 <oerjan> or to glogbot, perhaps
00:21:04 <Sgeo> fungot took 11 seconds to respond to me?
00:21:04 <fungot> Sgeo: i guess i will do when i get to go!! i'm a genius! let me know
00:21:19 <oerjan> pretty quick now
00:21:21 <Sgeo> oh, more than that
00:21:23 <oerjan> fungot: hi
00:21:24 <fungot> oerjan: it could potentially be awesome. gatech, caltech, berkeley and a few other pessimal algos too
00:21:32 <Sgeo> Also, what I intended to say in the first place:
00:21:47 <Sgeo> Is vim particularly likely to be bad if I don't really touch-type, but rather know-and-peck?
00:23:31 <oerjan> how does that apply to vim as opposed to any other editor?
00:24:01 <oerjan> muscle memory is important for all editors, surely
00:24:02 <Sgeo> Because vim apparently encourages keeping hands on the home row, which I don't normally do while typing?
00:24:04 <^v> so any halp with moi brainfuck problem
00:24:18 <Sgeo> I have muscle memory, it just doesn't particularly involve the home row as much as genuine touch-typing
00:24:39 <Sgeo> It's Sgeo-brand typing, not standard-brand typing
00:25:50 <oerjan> i might chastise you, but my touch typing has slipped and my fingers rarely stay stable on the home row.
00:26:19 <Sgeo> I think Bike wanted to see a video of me typing
00:26:24 <Sgeo> Still have yet to make tht
00:26:26 <Sgeo> that
00:26:33 <oerjan> also as someone who uses vim _without_ using the hjkl commands much, i might not be one to ask.
00:26:58 <shachaf> "home row" is asdf hjkl anyway
00:27:06 <oerjan> (i use them in visual mode, but only because gvim has a bug that makes arrows not work there)
00:27:32 <oerjan> on windows at least
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00:38:11 * boily checks his inventory. “I have: one slightly-humid upended saucepan, one onion juice, and one absence of egglplant.”
00:38:20 <boily> s/lp/p/
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00:44:16 <boily> *♪ sound of a not quite exactly brillant idea suddenly appearing ♪*
00:44:29 <boily> I should include that in the next Paranoïa campaign.
00:44:52 <boily> zzo38: hezzo38. how's the dnding going?
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01:03:56 * boily pokes a random Norwegian, just to see if Freenode's back to normal...
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01:14:12 <zzo38> boily: Sorry, there was a connection error on my computer.
01:17:04 <boily> same here.
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01:19:00 <oerjan> the random norwegian was reading a web page about a proposed wikimedia TOS change
01:19:13 <oerjan> now food ->
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01:23:14 <^v> the only way to make brainfuck not make your eyes bleed is to convert it to whitespace
01:24:49 <boily> then it's the paper that bleeds.
01:25:19 <Slereah> You can turn BF to ascii art
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04:19:33 <zzo38> The recursive queries in SQL kind of resemble the "for-input" loop in the Wheat esolang.
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04:24:44 <zzo38> Sort of as if it is a Wheat program that has an implicit "for-input" loop with no other "input" commands in it. It isn't actually like that, but that is something a bit similar!
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04:36:35 <zzo38> WITH `SEQUENCE`(`DATA`) AS (SELECT '0' UNION ALL SELECT `DATA` || REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(`DATA`,'0','-'),'1','0'),'-','1') FROM `SEQUENCE`) SELECT * FROM `SEQUENCE`;
04:37:50 <zzo38> Can you recognize it?
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04:48:46 <Bike> https://24.media.tumblr.com/abfd0b7842bb2e9eb96ad5570a85376f/tumblr_n1bwvrkMj51qjr3c0o1_500.jpg up for secrets
05:05:39 <lexande> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ilex-press/kickstarter-succeed-first-time-a-guide-to-crowdfun only 25% of target
05:06:01 <lexande> err, 34%, can't math
05:06:46 * ^v pokes everyone
05:06:55 <newsham> twitch plays microcorruption anyone?
05:06:59 <newsham> oops wrong room
05:07:01 <^v> who wants to see my brainfuck irc bot
05:07:22 <newsham> ^v that sentence has some unusual alternate parses
05:08:36 <^v> well here it is http://pastebin.com/kUBUb4ps
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05:17:05 <zzo38> Hopefully you can understand what this SQL program means. (If not, I can explain it.)
05:21:41 <quintopi1> oerjan: do you know how to solve a jigsaw puzzle (aka wang tile puzzle) in polynomial time?
05:26:16 <oerjan> i'd expect that to be NP-complete
05:27:07 <oerjan> given that the infinite generalization is turing complete, and i don't know any explicit reason why it wouldn't be
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05:27:24 <oerjan> and it's obviously in NP for a finite setup
05:28:24 <zzo38> How can I make a tree pattern matching program in C which compiles into SQL?
05:29:36 <zzo38> It can already be done in SQL but since such pattern matching codes can be long, I want to provide a function which can compile a tree pattern code into an SQL code
05:29:47 <zzo38> (Or else do just do it entirely in C)
05:30:56 <oerjan> quintopi1: ^
05:34:05 <zzo38> Maybe it is faster/more efficient to do entirely in C, but maybe it is better to do it in SQL, or maybe in a combination of SQL and C; I don't know what way.
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05:36:19 <quintopi1> oerjan: it is NP-complete. i looked it up finally. but i was confused because some author claimed it was in P in some publisher's weekly article.
05:36:36 <quintopi1> and i knew the infinite case was undecidable
05:36:52 <quintopi1> which seemed wrong, but i assume i'm wrong first until other evidence arises
05:36:53 <oerjan> ok
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06:04:32 <Sgeo> Did I just buy an entire collection of Worms games on Steam? I believe I just did
06:04:33 <Sgeo> :/
06:04:49 <Sgeo> I already had W:A... I think I saw Worms Blast in there and some memory of it made me want it
06:05:18 <elliott> worms blast is literally puzzle bobble...
06:06:27 <Bike> damn, if only i had some kind of influence on my purchasing habits
06:07:06 <Sgeo> Oh, that's the same as Frozen Bubble?
06:07:38 <Sgeo> elliott: well, at least there's some other games in here that aren't the normal Worms games, but are distinctly Wormy?
06:07:51 <Sgeo> Isn't there one where the main game mode is ... something to do with forts?
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06:08:34 <Sgeo> Doesn't seem to be in this package
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06:10:39 <kmc> oh USPS package tracking, you are so useless
06:10:51 <kmc> `coins
06:10:52 <HackEgo> concacoin gibblercoin pogoncoin shogocoin gason-of-unbuicoin wiicoin sorielcoin comcoin dimecoin caucoin con-of-unbecoin fibracoin minkcoin prefcoin tlwncoin notheriacoin bitwiserticcoin talcoin smuehcoin chineilcoin
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06:11:24 <kmc> `coins
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06:11:25 <HackEgo> cosmitycoin surgasonalipticcoin randacoin gayakucoin bam12coin hayacoin wilsecoin salcoin iscabcomcoin flangcoin ptacoin lo'scoin syndcoin mureheatespacseaucoin dorphinecoin botativecoin superpcoin salagonacoin indencoin scriptcoin
06:12:28 <Sgeo> Also, the 3d games aren't in here :(
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06:13:01 <Sgeo> Oh, there is one
06:13:19 <Sgeo> :)
06:13:56 <Sgeo> Does only W:A support recording games?
06:19:49 <oerjan> only cellular automaton games hth
06:22:22 <zzo38> Do you have C codes with stuff like this? if(*rule=='#' && (rule++,!is_weaving)) return;
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06:23:50 <zzo38> How common are a negative array index access in a C program?
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07:44:32 <Sgeo> Wonder if it would be unethical to buy a Worlds VIP
07:44:42 <Sgeo> Considering that Worlds, Inc. is pretty much a patent troll
07:48:30 <Bike> you know what they say.
07:49:19 <Sgeo> ?
07:49:55 <Bike> i said, "you know what they say."
07:49:56 <kmc> `coins
07:49:58 <HackEgo> dyncoin brcnicoin compliticoin prakircoin this=thacoin pipenacoin anousercoin intrencoin destacoin glaurcoin dubicoin bengecoin locacoin funderlcoin agelcoin madnesetlamblecoin ruitcoin concoin biiecoin nandocoin
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08:26:43 <kmc> `coins
08:26:45 <HackEgo> sotacoin confcoin soutcoin bachycoin fttcoin simputcoin bligaracecoin fuelcoin dececoin memcoin puzafecoin remcoin ///coin tre-calcoin delmincoin sanncoin iincoin frapkcoin cheddainfursecoin minaturcoin
08:37:28 <kmc> http://vill.ee/eye/
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08:45:43 <kmc> fungots fall on fungot falls
08:45:44 <fungot> kmc: so that's only 1600. just didn't find anything out about it
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09:32:17 <ion> Notice the built-in cigarette lighter and the ashtray just left of the light pen. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SAGE_console.jpeg
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09:53:10 <olsner> ion: huh, I guess smoking was amazingly much more normal in the past
09:53:49 <olsner> ... and you can't have your radar people go on smoke breaks and leave the monitors unmonitored
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09:58:29 <kmc> if you have to use that thing for real, smoking is definitely the right choice
09:58:46 <kmc> because you need to be calm and alert and you're probably about to die anyway.
09:59:26 * kmc has seen that very object in person, at the Computer History Museum
10:03:02 <olsner> if you have to use that, aren't you in some bunker deep inside a secret mountain in the middle of nowhere?
10:03:19 <olsner> i.e. "safe"
10:07:48 <kmc> well SAGE predates the Cheyenne Mountain bunker by some 10 years
10:08:37 <kmc> they were located in above-ground buildings that are hardened but probably not indestructible
10:09:54 <fizzie> Aw, I was assuming some obscure game console based on the file name.
10:10:22 <fizzie> (Are there any game consoles with integrated ashtrays?)
10:12:22 <kmc> the SABRE airline booking system was conceived after the president of American Airlines happened to be sitting on a flight next to an IBM salesman who'd just worked on SAGE
10:19:14 <olsner> "The result was that the aircraft could deliver passengers faster than their existing booking systems could sell tickets for them."
10:19:17 <olsner> (about the preceding booking system, the Magnetronic Reservisor, after introducing jet planes)
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12:06:16 <FreeFull_> I wish there was a way to transfer panes from tmux server 7 to 8
12:06:33 <FreeFull_> I want to test out tmux 8 but can't while 7 is running
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12:58:29 <Sgeo> Twitch Plays Dwarf Fortress?
12:58:59 <Slereah> WHERE IS THE BEER URIST
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13:57:58 <nyuszika7h> FreeFull: there's a version 8?
13:58:02 <nyuszika7h> oh wait
13:58:05 <nyuszika7h> I think it's not new
13:58:13 <nyuszika7h> yeah
13:58:17 <nyuszika7h> nyuszika7h@cadoth ~ % tmux -V
13:58:19 <nyuszika7h> tmux 1.8
13:58:27 <nyuszika7h> FreeFull: you can transfer programs
13:58:33 <nyuszika7h> transfer them to screen first, then to a new tmux
13:58:35 <nyuszika7h> using reptyr
13:58:40 <nyuszika7h> make sure the TERM is the same, however
13:58:51 <nyuszika7h> if the TERM in tmux is screen, the TERM in screen should be screen too
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13:59:02 <nyuszika7h> if it's screen-256color, it should be screen-256color in screen too
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14:00:02 <FreeFull> nyuszika7h: I meant 9
14:00:07 <nyuszika7h> 9? :O
14:00:09 <nyuszika7h> brb updating
14:00:20 <nyuszika7h> still, reptyr ;)
14:00:34 <FreeFull> Haven't heard of reptyr before
14:00:53 <FreeFull> Thanks for telling me about it
14:00:54 <nyuszika7h> it rarely likes to break though, so don't risk it if you run important programs
14:01:06 <nyuszika7h> that can't afford being down for a few seconds or mintwesu
14:01:08 <nyuszika7h> *minutes
14:01:21 <FreeFull> I don't actually have screen installed right now
14:01:43 <FreeFull> I just want to transfer irssi =P
14:01:58 <nyuszika7h> hm
14:02:04 <nyuszika7h> can't you make the new tmux server use another socket
14:02:42 <nyuszika7h> tmux -L foo
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15:26:48 <zzo38> I have a copy of a key, which fits, and it turns, but fails to lock or unlock the door. I compared it with the original, and it matches, and the original key works. Do you know what is wrong?
15:28:53 <Slereah> How do you know it matches
15:30:57 <zzo38> Because I compared it very carefully
15:31:21 <Slereah> By lookin'?
15:31:38 <Slereah> It is possible that a different of a micron might not work
15:33:52 <zzo38> By looking, yes
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16:27:17 <b_jonas> zzo38: the usual method is the return the key to where you've had it copied and demand a new copy, but make sure the template you're copying from is an original, not a copy
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16:51:27 <zzo38> b_jonas: OK
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17:20:55 <zzo38> Some people say the flippers make a pinball game skillful. That isn't true; while there is skill involved in effectively using the flippers, that isn't what makes the game skilful.
17:21:25 <Slereah> The skill is finding a job to get the money to put inside
17:22:06 <zzo38> Yes, that is what some people say too, but that has nothing to do with a pinball game.
17:23:04 <zzo38> If you own a pinball table, you may not need to put a coin (and if you do, you can get it back).
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18:26:41 <kmc> https://github.com/mame/radiation-hardened-quine
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18:30:28 <Bike> finally
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18:42:58 <oklopol> zzo38: what makes it skillful then?
18:43:45 <kmc> zzo38: what do you think of Twitch Plays Pokémon?
18:43:54 <kmc> fungot: what do you think of Twitch Plays Pokémon?
18:43:54 <fungot> kmc: i thought optimistic/ pessimistic concurrency was an implementation that doesn't have to
18:44:10 <oklopol> democracy!!
18:44:23 <kmc> anarchy!!
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18:50:33 <oklopol> start9
18:50:33 <oklopol> start9
18:50:33 <oklopol> start9
18:50:34 <oklopol> start9
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18:50:39 <kmc> :D
18:50:44 <kmc> `coins
18:50:45 <HackEgo> aeocoin singcoin 5-logiccoin thinecoin clocoin jugglyphoboldcoin flaneurcoin meanycoin chacoin pathcoin nicecoin hydracoin bf-derosicoin landballcoin hevavecoin bitzogtcoin cobbycoin conicoin gola/mcoin inftabllcoin
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19:13:24 <zzo38> kmc: I don't know "Twitch Plays Pokemon", so I don't think of it.
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20:10:40 <kmc> zzo38: do you want to learn of it?
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20:17:09 <lexande> somebody has written on the chalkboard in the maths department "3987^12 + 4365^12 = 4472^12"
20:17:45 <kmc> > 3987^12 + 4365^12 == 4472^12
20:17:47 <lambdabot> False
20:18:00 <Bike> :t (^)
20:18:00 <Bike> lambdabot: well, fuck you
20:18:01 <lambdabot> (Integral b, Num a) => a -> b -> a
20:18:13 <Bike> lambdabot: nevermind, problem's on my end
20:18:23 <lexande> i mean, clearly it's false since 12 > 2
20:18:38 <kmc> are you sure that 12 > 2
20:18:52 <zzo38> kmc: No I am not much interested at the present time
20:19:38 <kmc> :t ((^), (^^), (**))
20:19:39 <lambdabot> (Floating a2, Fractional a1, Integral b, Integral b1, Num a) => (a -> b -> a, a1 -> b1 -> a1, a2 -> a2 -> a2)
20:19:45 <shachaf> good type
20:19:49 <kmc> yes
20:19:51 <chaiomanot_> :t True
20:19:52 <lambdabot> Bool
20:19:58 <chaiomanot_> :t Bool
20:19:59 <lambdabot> Not in scope: data constructor `Bool'
20:20:02 <kmc> :k Bool
20:20:03 <lambdabot> *
20:20:07 <kmc> `relcome chaiomanot_
20:20:08 <HackEgo> chaiomanot_: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
20:20:11 <chaiomanot_> ack
20:20:25 <chaiomanot_> `relcome kmc
20:20:25 <HackEgo> kmc: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
20:20:56 <chaiomanot_> :k True
20:20:58 <lambdabot> Not in scope: type constructor or class `True'
20:20:58 <lambdabot> A data constructor of that name is in scope; did you mean -XDataKinds?
20:20:58 <lambdabot> Perhaps you meant `Tree' (imported from Data.Tree)
20:21:16 <fizzie> `run echo '3987 12^ 4365 12^+ 4472 12^-n' | dc
20:21:17 <HackEgo> 1211886809373872630985912112862690
20:21:29 <chaiomanot_> see lambdabot, you're why i don't like static typing
20:21:34 <fizzie> (I guess that's p. close?)
20:21:35 <kmc> lol
20:21:43 <Bike> Bool is a type, so it has a kind, not a type. True is a value, so it has a type, not a kind
20:21:57 <shachaf> unless you use DataKinds hth
20:22:00 <chaiomanot_> i know, but :t Bool should return Type, not an error!
20:22:00 <kmc> keeping straight which things are types and which ones aren't is why you don't like static typing?
20:22:08 <Bike> shachaf: look, shut up :(
20:22:10 <kmc> chaiomanot_: it would with dependent types
20:22:24 <kmc> so the problem is that Haskell isn't all the way in the deep end of statically typed :)
20:22:31 <chaiomanot_> well fair enough
20:22:32 <shachaf> Bike: oh, wait, someone was actually getting things mixed up, never mind
20:22:34 <Bike> i hear making type a type makes all hell break loose
20:22:45 <Bike> something about barbers maybe
20:22:50 <kmc> yeah it's dodgy
20:22:53 <shachaf> it's not so bad imo
20:22:57 <kmc> usually you have like Set : Set1 : Set2 : ...
20:23:01 <fizzie> `run echo '3987 12^ 4365 12^+ 4472 12^ f' | dc
20:23:02 <HackEgo> 63976656348486725806862358322168575784124416 \ 63976656349698612616236230953154487896987106
20:23:22 <kmc> shachaf: do you know idris? should i learn idris?
20:23:32 <Bike> fizzie: oh that does seem close
20:23:37 <shachaf> kmc: i don't know either one
20:23:52 <shachaf> kmc: were you at edwinb's talk about it a couple of years ago?
20:23:55 <kmc> you don't know whether you know idris?
20:23:57 <kmc> i wasn't
20:23:59 <fizzie> Bike: It's close if you're all floating point.
20:24:01 <shachaf> in boston
20:24:16 <shachaf> it was a good talk
20:24:21 <fizzie> octave:1> (3987^12 + 4365^12)^(1/12)
20:24:21 <fizzie> ans = 4472.0
20:24:43 <Bike> oh.
20:24:44 * kmc imagines a Flappy Bird clone named Floaty Point
20:26:09 <Bike> fucking unstable internet
20:26:22 <shachaf> kmc: you should learn it and then tell me
20:28:37 <kmc> ok
20:29:04 <kmc> error: aborting due to 7452 previous errors
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20:48:12 <kmc> speedy
20:48:13 <kmc> `coins
20:48:14 <HackEgo> arrocoin hartransomskjcoin orthcoin elorifidcoin .yachectcoin temparcoin formylecoin proogucoin pyriacoin burecoin zowiercoin braincoin cobospeacoin triacoin puccinforcoin elfcoin rococoin prdcatcoin waduzicoin yourcomcoin
20:53:20 <fizzie> kmc: What are you using all these coins for?
20:53:27 <kmc> flipping
21:03:44 <Bike> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/harvard-supercomputing-cluster-hijacked-to-produce-alt-cryptocurrency/ student steals supercomputer for doges
21:07:26 <kmc> :D
21:09:56 <Bike> soon we'll hear about tsmc facilities being hijacked to make miner asics
21:10:13 <shachaf> kmc: should i learn idris and/or rust
21:10:45 <kmc> probably
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21:16:55 <shachaf> if i define FOO=/some/path in bash, can i get tab completion for $FOO/<tab>?
21:23:34 <kmc> ATTRIBUTE_NAMES[574] = ATTR_VERYVERYTHICKMATHSPACE;
21:29:16 <zzo38> Pokemon cards GUST OF WIND is mainly useful to switch into opponent's cards having high retreat cost, especially to me. Often even if they are resisted to me, it is more helpful.
21:29:30 <zzo38> Do you think so too?
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22:10:58 <fizzie> Curiosity question: has anything used a 2x2 RGGB Bayer pattern in a display instead of a sensor?
22:12:05 <kmc> the XO-1 screen is... not a Bayer pattern, but weird http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:XO_screen_01_Pengo.jpg
22:12:32 <fizzie> It's pretty close to a Bayer pattern.
22:12:42 <kmc> it has the same density of all three colors. they're just in diagonal stripes
22:12:46 <kmc> it takes a second to see it
22:12:47 <fizzie> Right.
22:12:52 <fizzie> Yes, it did take a second.
22:13:13 <fizzie> Now that you mention that, I think I vaguely recall some other "odd" arrangement.
22:13:15 <kmc> they did this in order to use a single diffraction grating instead of a lot of filters
22:13:31 <kmc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PenTile ?
22:13:40 <fizzie> Right.
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22:28:20 <fizzie> Interesting asides found while Googling for this: a downsampling algorithm that goes directly from a Bayer-pattern sensor image to a RGB subpixel screen image, that's supposedly better than doing a traditional demosaicing and then downsampling that disregards the subpixel layout information.
22:34:31 <kmc> nice
22:34:47 <kmc> you could use that for viewing RAW images on LCD monitors
22:39:00 <fizzie> The suggested use was for camera viewfinders and screens, since they have to show a downscaled "live view" image.
22:39:31 * kmc has 5 GB of RAW files so far and has done exactly nothing with them
22:39:43 <kmc> fizzie: ah, good
22:40:03 * kmc has a MILC with an impressive OLED viewfinder
22:40:34 <fizzie> Does it have 2.36 megadots?
22:40:50 <kmc> seems so
22:41:06 <fizzie> That seems to be the norm for modern high-end thingies.
22:41:24 <fizzie> It's also really strange that EVF and camera screen resolutions are given in terms of subpixel counts, while everywhere else displays count full pixels.
22:41:36 <fizzie> They must've gotten that from the way sensor resolutions are counted.
22:42:23 <fizzie> (Like that "2.36 million dots", that's 1024*768*3.)
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22:42:43 <kmc> aha
22:43:31 <fizzie> My old non-ILC zoomy-woomy camera has a 188 kilodot EVF.
22:43:36 <fizzie> That's significantly less impressive.
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22:57:57 <boily> bleeeeeeeeeerghhh...
22:58:34 <Bike> hello helloily
22:59:07 <boily> hello Bikello
22:59:15 <olsner> h'oily boily
22:59:24 <boily> hello hellolsner
22:59:39 <boily> (or is it olsnello?)
22:59:43 <olsner> someone claimed to have made some progress on the voynich manuscript
23:00:00 <boily> エェ?本当?
23:00:03 <Bike> two separate someones!
23:00:05 <Bike> who will win
23:00:13 <boily> `quote Newcastle
23:00:13 <HackEgo> 960) <boily> it's raining in newcastle, therefore the elliotts are distinct. <tswett> boily's Newcastle Theorem.
23:00:17 <boily> ~metar CYUL
23:00:17 <metasepia> CYUL 212252Z 21013KT 15SM SCT060 BKN085 02/00 A2968 RMK SC4AC3 SLP053
23:00:31 <boily> ~metar EGNT
23:00:32 <metasepia> EGNT 212250Z 23010KT 200V270 9999 FEW018 BKN023 05/03 Q0990
23:01:00 <fizzie> ~metar EFHK
23:01:00 <metasepia> EFHK 212250Z 11010KT 9999 BKN006 00/M01 Q1006 TEMPO 6000 -SN
23:01:05 <boily> Bike: as it isn't raining, we don't have proof that there are at least two different people on Earth to claim voynich-progress.
23:01:12 <fizzie> Some TEMPO -SN.
23:01:17 <olsner> (I referred to this someone http://stephenbax.net/)
23:01:37 <FireFly> ~metar ESSA
23:01:38 <metasepia> ESSA 212250Z 22005KT 2500 BR OVC002 03/02 Q0998 R01L/29//95 R01R/29//95 R08/29//95 TEMPO 1400
23:02:49 <olsner> now I will read a book
23:05:58 <FireFly> What is the meaning of R01L/29//95 ?
23:08:10 <boily> FireFly: those are runway conditions. 10° leftmost runway, something something, surface conditions.
23:08:15 <kmc> `coins
23:08:17 <HackEgo> peochallcoin scutomousedagonalietcoin linearassurbecoin dnrandreimacrocoin clotacoin poinecoin claitafncoin wormcoin isairicoin selliicoin sobufcoin moniacoin didecoin blackcoin finicoin hapylicoin hydromcoin objectioncalculacoin quecoin halfcoin
23:08:44 <boily> FireFly: I never can remember what the magic numbers mean.
23:09:00 <FireFly> boily: I see, okay
23:09:05 <boily> kmc: is it me, or are the coin names getting sillier and sillier?
23:09:30 <FireFly> Invest in poinecoin!
23:10:17 <boily> I want a bunch of Quécoins!
23:11:04 <FireFly> `coins --swedish
23:11:06 <HackEgo> truecoin
23:11:14 <FireFly> `coins --swedish 20
23:11:16 <HackEgo> hommapcoin legidcoin ronecoin smitrevelancoin årlitticoin ardigfillcoin sigacoin intercoin zelcoin @coin mazulecoin tainscoin uncitierdcoin phinecoin pericoin mumonkelxxviiiudgecoin brakapebatocoin datiblemcoin forraphcoin krylcoin
23:11:31 <boily> `coins --french 20
23:11:34 <HackEgo> xaincoin 4dlcoin mannstatcoin spironcoin bestantcoin nourvoudcoin eibercicoin haicoin distrancoin graycoin maigecoin sucorpocoin posiicoin brazdcoin embestacoin versenencoin strustitlcoin pingcoin bubbecoin madnscoin
23:12:10 <boily> `coins --japanese 20
23:12:12 <HackEgo> Unknown option: japanese
23:12:20 * boily mapoles HackEgo
23:12:27 <FireFly> `words --help
23:12:28 <HackEgo> Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] \ \ options: \ -l, --list list valid datasets \ -d, --debug debugging output \ -N, --dont-normalize don't normalize frequencies when combining \ multiple Markov models; this has the effect \ of making larger dataset
23:12:35 <FireFly> `words -l
23:12:36 <HackEgo> valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M
23:12:49 <Bike> manx but not japanese?
23:12:55 <Bike> `coins --manx 20
23:12:56 <HackEgo> chocoin lo'reravacoin capcoin sanidcoin thummillanencoin shagogcoin ghkincoin luttolercoin physidcoin anumecoin sadolcoin sacriburtcoin bircoin virusthograishcoin lengersecoin shellcoin braghcoin onotacoin eddenncoin nylcoin
23:13:44 <FireFly> `coins --hebrew 20
23:13:47 <HackEgo> ​והבדcoin wollencoin unshilaxcoin geolacoin hq9+coin desedjametaligeunstaquecogsbycoin בסבורסטיcoin שהתאניcoin regxcoin epingcoin וההיאהוזיטוראcoin youarecoin alldecoin albocoin שנסתcoin ומהcoin immicoin ובחושcoin exelcoin לקערובצהcoin
23:14:04 <Bike> wow.
23:14:11 <boily> I don't think hq9+ is valid hebrew...
23:14:12 <Bike> let's just stick with that one
23:14:30 <boily> shachaf: your opinion on --hebres?
23:15:10 <FireFly> `words --hebrew --german-medical 20
23:15:12 <HackEgo> subkorpolyt psorisch הוצא בהכלכלה בנחח gast מין ומסירוס לסליקצבי dihydran סקרנב tasoleucin ארנד עוקליסטו sonsweit trikum למעמדתו sequenzele שבאיזודי שהנשמרניש
23:15:29 <FireFly> Those datasets might not blend very well together..
23:15:52 <boily> and... uhm.. --canadian-english-insane???
23:16:01 <boily> `coins --canadian-english-insane 20
23:16:03 <HackEgo> irngcoin enedcoin abetacoin cursioncoin vvlercoin kelitafncoin lockcoin uncomcoin ouviacoin myxomcoin tifcoin ferncoin wuttycoin wjyothcoin melshowcoin rposcoin fielcoin durecoin midecoin unrepushedromecoin
23:16:15 <FireFly> Well, the last part is implied by 'canadian', isn't it?
23:16:20 <Bike> i think the -insane just means the volume.
23:17:06 <boily> you wutty vvler that you are, you unrepushedrome person.
23:17:42 <FireFly> Very wutty.
23:18:52 <boily> ~duck vvler
23:18:53 <metasepia> --- No relevant information
23:20:35 <FireFly> ~duck Vyers
23:20:35 <metasepia> --- No relevant information
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23:22:43 <boily> Insanadian is unduckable.
23:22:49 <boily> `relcome chaiomanot_
23:22:50 <HackEgo> chaiomanot_: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
23:23:07 <boily> (ah, it's been a long time since I've `relcomed someone new!)
23:23:14 <chaiomanot_> `relcome boily
23:23:14 <chaiomanot_> `relcome boily
23:23:15 <HackEgo> boily: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
23:23:15 <HackEgo> boily: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
23:23:19 <boily> (and ooooh, I do have nice term colours here.)
23:23:36 <boily> chaiomanot_: were you already `relcomed? I kinda disappeared from the channel lately.
23:24:00 <chaiomanot_> 4 times now :-P
23:24:17 <boily> ah! :D
23:24:25 <chaiomanot_> there are a lot of ppl here, how do you know i'm new?
23:25:11 <boily> my Instincts, Gut Feelings, and Because I Decided So as thinking is too hard at this time of the day.
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23:25:47 <chaiomanot_> lol
23:26:03 <chaiomanot_> im surprised you guys dont just have hackego do it automatically
23:26:11 <boily> too logical.
23:26:16 <chaiomanot_> ha
23:26:37 <FireFly> Too easy
23:26:37 <boily> I mean, a solution obviously exists, so solving the problem is trivial.
23:26:52 <chaiomanot_> exactly
23:27:02 <chaiomanot_> crazy part is know what you mean
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23:34:56 <boily> impellomatic. Sgello.
23:35:04 <boily> Tanelle, Quinthellopia.
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23:49:54 <boily> hellørjan!
23:50:05 <boily> (tonight is a very welcommy night!)
23:50:59 <oerjan> jóily napot
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