< 1392163822 307702 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2 < 1392164017 428684 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: boily < 1392164070 918238 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you know if it's to convert all tag systems into a form where no production produces more than two symbols? < 1392164460 102978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you accidentally a lot < 1392164598 614320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shall assume the missing word is "evil", in which case the answer is "maybe". < 1392164671 694925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1392164696 765993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know about the question you are trying to ask. < 1392164723 771716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1392164728 577897 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1392164842 611844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: BOO! < 1392164911 103229 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1392165591 257768 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wow. i typed out every word in that sentence, i'm sure of it. lag! < 1392165614 157825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lag shouldn't work that way. < 1392165627 445523 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does with mosh sometimes < 1392165630 22509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they invented tcp for a reason, you know. < 1392165634 576146 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosh uses udp < 1392165649 820478 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Kindle Paperwhite keyboard sucks < 1392165654 706254 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1392165676 13855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosh won't drop / reorder keystrokes though < 1392165680 715221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has its own reliable transport on top of udp < 1392165684 96932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell the mosh people they'd better have this fixed in good time before i take over the world, or they'll be SORRY. < 1392165704 338647 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does mosh client work well in cygwin on Windows yet?? < 1392165745 261040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: if you are asking this as an intermediate stage for resPairate-2, i'm not sure that's a good idea. < 1392165773 96306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to me that tag systems are too rigid to make that convenient. < 1392165969 430796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if quintopia is lagged by several minutes. < 1392165998 84132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not at the /ping level < 1392166044 802395 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1392166228 364194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Guest65497: you were just deregistered from Agora hth < 1392166269 642944 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1392166288 328998 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was planning on reading the ruleset too < 1392166289 495985 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1392166307 350907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can reregister, i believe. < 1392166470 600693 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How're things going < 1392166517 907409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there have been some major simplifications. also there's a new game with complex number scores, and piracy. < 1392166536 449740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is just watching. < 1392167053 118773 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392168007 68456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I finally heard what happened to our building. Someone was playing ski-ball in an office and hit a sprinkler" < 1392168079 496321 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1392168108 391439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid, stupid industry < 1392168196 935944 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me < 1392168207 566432 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of want to do some sort of summer internship this summer < 1392168370 111880 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I have no idea where to look :/ < 1392168373 229650 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well what is a good place to start then? (i'm also asking it in case it makes it possible to have smaller UTMs) < 1392168439 787070 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found out i need two letters of rec for any good internship so i'm p. doomed < 1392168472 710970 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does taneb have recommendations < 1392168493 137582 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I... probably could get some < 1392168516 711651 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1392168520 555075 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear Bike: Internships are good for experience. I recommend you get some. Love, Quintopia < 1392168544 983417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i was thinking you can make an active tag that takes one cycle to add each prepended tag < 1392168714 338608 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i could use an irrelevant one < 1392168736 388716 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably can't ask my boss for one soon enough to get the one that looked really interesting, sigh < 1392168741 895209 :Gdlckmywy!~Gdlckmywy@c-69-244-156-92.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1392168759 905905 :Gdlckmywy!~Gdlckmywy@c-69-244-156-92.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1392168802 21189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all passive tags have self-preservation prefixes < 1392168863 322529 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and how do you stop it when it's done? < 1392168888 52939 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So where is a good start for looking for internships < 1392168921 249751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: by deleting the remainder... < 1392168935 607505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the necessary following tags, naturally < 1392168978 201201 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1392169047 106105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an active tag would have something like the format
n 2 ... n 2 < 1392169065 665865 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: bulletin boards at your school < 1392169066 777021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1392169096 551746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an active tag would have something like the format
n 2 n 2 < 1392169118 54201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think when you're still a student you don't need super relevant recs < 1392169135 629256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the header can use the first set to prepend whatever, and to produce the header for the next cycle < 1392169165 168802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while the second set gets reduplicated each cycle < 1392169181 939501 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'd be applying for an NSF thing rather than 'just an internship' though, you get thousands in room and board and shit like that < 1392169184 530705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1392169189 725901 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just antsy about applying for things probably < 1392169200 588251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case though there are probably a lot of people around who've done it before and can help you < 1392169212 212186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the prepended stuff can probably take a cycle to settle down into the right format too. < 1392169299 211930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it gets "run" before the next step of the active one. < 1392169368 58605 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the active one prepends a bunch of copies? < 1392169398 423323 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or one at a time? < 1392169405 987730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one per cycle < 1392169427 851956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you don't need to more than double stuff per cycle < 1392169583 834123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you get some extra slack from the extra cycle for the prepended tag representation. < 1392169640 775777 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you would prend n copies of the 'double this symbol' tag, and then each on executes one per cycle? < 1392169709 436282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that got garbled... < 1392169745 370910 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :prend=prepend < 1392169748 196316 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :on=one < 1392169785 806128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand what you mean. < 1392169808 248797 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand what you mean, so it sounds fair < 1392169848 99522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm two alphabet copies per might be enough. < 1392169879 956016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first gets passed to the prepended ... oh hm. < 1392169881 560891 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is
supposed to do? < 1392169926 407277 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1392169934 420258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we need 3, this still needs to use ais523's misalignment trick. < 1392170025 533982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's the simplest way to pass to arbitrary code _after_ you've copied the alphabet. < 1392170140 598501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
will prepend a proto-header for the prepended tag, then delete to a spot inside the first alphabet copy; this spot then doubles a misaligned alphabet for the prepended tag to use, after which ... hm maybe 2 is enough anyway. < 1392170202 64767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the part of the alphabet _after_ the cutoff will prepare the header for the next cycle of the active tag. < 1392170345 388449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a slight headache, which isn't helping. < 1392170420 887486 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1392170505 447904 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :'will prepend a proto-header for the prepended tag' this doesn't seem very rigorously stated. i'll wait until your headache goes away :P < 1392170628 55669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the proto-header's job would be to mangle the prepended tag into its final passive form on the next cycle. < 1392172048 192281 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392172191 665376 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1392172435 661936 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1392172452 899186 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392173547 553238 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1392175448 50192 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1392175479 496824 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392175780 637512 :solis!~0@cpe-174-101-181-149.cinci.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1392175788 671034 :solis!~0@cpe-174-101-181-149.cinci.res.rr.com PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1392176164 80303 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1392176340 346028 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dice server is still up? < 1392176341 183604 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1392176546 691332 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392176768 464179 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one < 1392176834 716508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nomic.net, presumably < 1392176932 459820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm glad the responses are PGP encrypted < 1392176964 116137 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, signed < 1392177304 318545 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1392177323 669419 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1392177539 320687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this has come up because the new agora speaker has made a policy to select judges randomly from the candidates) < 1392177790 428769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SatoshiDice uses a random number generation procedure which is retrospectively verifiable < 1392177930 720121 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have published a committment to a HMAC key for each of the next many days, using Bitcoin as a timestamping service < 1392177962 21436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every day they reveal the previous day's key and you can verify that it matches the committment < 1392178009 786814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the randomness for bets is generated by HMACing some public information about the bet < 1392178049 695807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this might not work for games where some rolls need to remain secret for a long time < 1392178231 850287 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Some consider it to be DDoS attack against the Bitcoin network since it is bypassing the built-in anti-DDoS features of Bitcoin (transaction fees)." < 1392178398 853196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it circument fees < 1392179016 363483 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :games? what kind of games we talkin here < 1392179379 556086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most dangerous game < 1392179405 142477 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1392179440 518916 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :transaction fees are considered an anti-DDOS mechanism? < 1392179466 849674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that SD requires bets to have a fee, which makes them go through quickly, and could be considered an aggressive move of some kind, but doesn't seem at all like "bypassing" the mechanism < 1392179489 969412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not so much "bypassing" as "using it exactly as intended" < 1392179492 938972 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1392179502 623530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fine distinction < 1392179506 733209 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :people were annoyed when it started taking up half the volume of transactions < 1392179518 230650 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's about it < 1392179962 116976 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see i'm just imaginign someone using this for D&D < 1392180750 488291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1392181453 458090 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2 < 1392181530 222565 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1392181563 669704 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1392181831 666885 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1392182216 960717 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1392184274 256204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dis86 48c7042500004000efbead0b < 1392184275 93005 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov qword [0x400000], 0xbadbeef; < 1392184701 960510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i published the thing http://mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.com/2014/02/x86-is-turing-complete-with-no-registers.html < 1392184764 699802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: ^ i said i would send you a link < 1392184769 264646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably said that to other people but i forgot < 1392185028 954675 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk < 1392185751 889958 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Neat. < 1392186079 420841 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow I suspect the branch predictor isn't that fond of this. < 1392187341 655235 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1392187550 607798 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1392187595 690221 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1392188360 660067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1392188378 531087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux's perf can measure that... < 1392188382 530748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have it working on this machine though < 1392189481 535125 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392190622 395266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh jeez https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/Security/Conceptual/cryptoservices/RandomNumberGenerationAPIs/RandomNumberGenerationAPIs.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40011172-CH12-SW1 < 1392190630 512468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i like how you link to esolangs.org for Turing-complete < 1392190630 861890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spot the bug in this security critical code example < 1392190634 858112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx shachaf < 1392190645 428371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a better discussion of the relevant issues for this sort of thing < 1392190666 770776 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's what I concluded, yeah < 1392190852 432639 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the bug < 1392190989 897054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: gah, that's bad < 1392191005 986997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't spot it for ages, but I was reading the code top to bottom, and it's in the last nontrivial line < 1392191026 514446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1392191043 511131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no, I thought the shift was wrong, but now I'm not sure it is < 1392191054 7184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes, it is < 1392191061 963343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think (c << (8 * i)) gets promoted to int which actually makes the whole thing UB < 1392191063 895826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the left operand to the shift's a uint8_t < 1392191067 305961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the right hand side's a plain int < 1392191068 453357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at the minimum, it won't get promoted above unsigned int < 1392191078 151476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't guarantee that any shifts larger than 24 work correctly < 1392191104 777691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs a cast to uint64_t on c < 1392191124 753100 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: re that post you linked to, you say "Many RISC architectures also allow" indirect jump < 1392191144 336793 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't think that's a risc thing, the 6502 also has an indirect jump instruction < 1392191148 682654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is shifting a signed int by more than the number of bits UB? < 1392191160 832512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: right, I didn't mean it's exclusively a RISC thing, just that it's not a particular x86 CISC weirdness < 1392191221 570912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes, and shifting it by 31 would produce the wrong result < 1392191229 888009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Shifting any int (signed or unsigned) by more than the number of bits is UB. < 1392191236 316952 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I think that's a really strange instruction in 6502 because it loads has 2 bytes of address in the instruction then loads 2 bytes indirectly using that (though there's a bug when the indirect address lies on a page boundary), and that whole thing executes in just too few clock cycles to be possible on that cpu < 1392191246 950330 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: s/more than/more than or equal/ < 1392191254 705250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ouch < 1392191302 635374 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it supposedly runs in 5 clock cycles, which is strange < 1392191317 126089 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If the value of the right operand is negative or is greater than or equal to the width of the promoted left operand, the behavior is undefined." (C11 6.5.7p3) < 1392191331 104783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks fizzie (what's a good link for C11?) < 1392191342 344731 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't tell me you forked over the CHF for an official copy < 1392191346 187057 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess it's possible < 1392191351 44607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: weird < 1392191357 397959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have heard about that bug, too < 1392191358 83867 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1570.pdf is the latest draft. < 1392191366 639890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: n1570.pdf is a draft from just before it was released < 1392191381 471529 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not 100% accurate to C11, but it's pretty close < 1392191385 599264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: There's also an unofficial HTML conversion at http://www.iso-9899.info/n1570.html < 1392191408 6887 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes sense afterall, the stuff that takes lots of time in other instructions is adding an index register to a 16-bit absolute address which has to fit AFTER loading the address but BEFORE the actual operation executes < 1392191413 213393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Can be useful on, say, some mobile device that doesn't cope well with a 701-page pdf.) < 1392191441 81103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1392191478 206973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :web browser developers like to use "the web platform spec as a single page" as a stress test :) < 1392191521 91822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I strongly suspect bitshifting unsigned ints doesn't have the usual "result is reduced modulo 2^width" rule because that'd complicate the implementation on those many, many systems that do something like "mask shift count to K bits". < 1392191552 293431 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see < 1392191558 721529 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, IIRC that's the normally given rationale for "out of range shifts are UB" < 1392191577 726417 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the indexed 16-bit instructions take 1 cycle more when there's a carry in adding the index. that's clever < 1392191586 527091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, out of range shifts in Verity just give 0 (or possibly produce invalid output), but that's because I only allow shifts by constants < 1392191706 391448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The shift operators also differ from many other binary operators in that the type of the result is determined based on only the left operand, and the type of the right operand is ignored. ("The description of shift operators in K&R suggests that shifting by a long count should force the left operand to be widened to long before being shifted. A more intuitive practice, endorsed by the C89 ... < 1392191712 399937 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Committee, is that the type of the shift count has no bearing on the type of the result." -- C99 rationale.) < 1392191736 183740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The C11 rationale document seems to be still not done. < 1392191747 54559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a rationale document separate from the spec? < 1392191756 436820 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1392191773 624516 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm imagining this as like "C11: the unauthorized biography" < 1392191777 521895 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yes, there are plans to update the existing Rationale to include C11. Since it's an informal document, there's no planned ETA, but it's on our to-do list." (from January 31, 2012.) < 1392191777 616176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it's unofficial, it's the committee saying "here's why we did things the way we did" < 1392191782 226640 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tales of wild after-hours cocaine parties on the ISO 9899 committee < 1392191795 97033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fuck you, that's why" < 1392191806 644438 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thought it was funny" < 1392191808 986334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :☠ UNDEFINED BEHAVIOR ☠ < 1392191809 388282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably for much the same reason that many websites have FAQs < 1392191816 125419 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"after enough drugs it seemed like a good idea, that's why" < 1392191837 941058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think in any good FAQ the first Q is just "Dear god why?" < 1392191842 326145 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the editor didn't realize it was a joke" < 1392191870 788710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of enough drugs, http://junkyardmessiah.tumblr.com/post/76403947862/chaoscontrolled123-luke-and-i-were-looking-at < 1392191874 863865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, recently came across this, the committee response is somehow quite amusing: http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/dr_257.htm < 1392191875 631231 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :600 year old butt-song from hell < 1392191900 28129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DRs cost quite a bit of money to file < 1392192013 660361 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do? I've always sort of assumed anyone can go and submit them. < 1392192022 221247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on things like http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/dr_404.htm < 1392192073 822278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: anyone can, but they have to pay a bunch of money to do so < 1392192108 81949 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "decay" used in the standard for arrays decaying to pointers? < 1392192125 102270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: haha < 1392192198 891093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: No. it's an entirely unofficial term. < 1392192209 244344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Common, though. < 1392192229 458381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The only instance of the word "decay" in N1570 is that joke.) < 1392192590 944860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I'd say the DR isn't a joke < 1392192600 921411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a joke was left in the standard by mistake" is an actual bug report < 1392192703 831350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to make it expensive otherwise people will submit DRs like "pls change all the syntax to Lisp", like Rust gets >_> < 1392192845 848538 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're saying that C and Something Awful use the same strategy to deter trolls < 1392192870 981580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is an actual bug report, sure, but the kind of thing I wouldn't expect a random individual to make, if they had to pay for the privilege. < 1392192888 175953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose it could be just someone rich enough.) < 1392192906 719531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hahaha < 1392192951 315986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most DRs are filed by companies, I think, especially compiler manufacturers < 1392192962 220838 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you can buy redtext for another committee member < 1392193158 173452 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they paid for some number of DRs in a year and were running out of time to file them all < 1392193177 293318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defect report procedures applying to JTC1/SC22/WG14 (the C standards workgroup) seem to be hard to Google for. (Some of the other JTC1 subcommittees have them more obviously in the web.) < 1392193224 354162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if any OS X bitcoin apps used that example code to generate DSA signature nonces < 1392193225 636141 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This [submitting a DR] is supposed to happen through your National Body (a Standard-defining Organization which is itself part of ISO, such as ANSI for the USA), which will formally submit it to JTC1/SC22 or its subsidiary WG14 ("the committee".) -- In less bureaucratic terms, yet quite a bit more efficiently, you can try contact with the convenor of WG14 (who is also allowed to formally ... < 1392193231 682111 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... submit defect report.)" > 1392193518 820477 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392193520 522465 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric > 1392193522 936582 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392193523 454202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392193571 566483 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1392193574 785110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: remember that Debian OpenSSL issue? < 1392193581 265145 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392193631 550647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It's a terrible shame uint64_t isn't allowed to have any padding bits, otherwise the answer to that question would be "because fread might end up generating a trap representation". < 1392193698 117830 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Apple support any architectures that have trap representations anyway? < 1392193714 406893 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about "something something endianness" as another possible explanation < 1392193735 847639 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not. < 1392193753 112537 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know of any architectures that have integers with trap representations. < 1392193823 725781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Whoops, have to go a lunch.) < 1392193882 193893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fried fungot sandwich < 1392193882 347642 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: or is it just me, or i: yet, you rogue! all about macros, a wonderful!' i am sorry, in particular candidate countries. if the transatlantic relationship, but the parliament has possessed him, yet he talkes well, it's open source < 1392194054 480387 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what's your endian? < 1392194054 633526 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so, let's say i call them mindless games. if we hit every stupid person, any person going, tough one. if we solve it,...) < 1392194181 852439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION falls asleep < 1392194250 240168 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[noobie-q] fungot is bot, right? < 1392194250 431745 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :luserdroog: to " print" statement should always remember the songs on p2p apps in scheme, besides, was not beyond normal credibility < 1392194293 558458 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does defender, haste do anything interesting? < 1392194304 626323 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, lets you tap the creature when it comes out < 1392194310 572812 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have need to < 1392194317 275161 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much pressure! what do i do? < 1392194329 879954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: there's a card in Future Sight with defender, haste, and a tap ability < 1392194336 880479 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember the songs on p2p apps in steam, duh < 1392194337 780149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :luserdroog: are you a bot? fungot is < 1392194337 933632 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov < 1392194341 265837 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wwas looking at that < 1392194363 170384 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should look at Future Sight more closely, it seems almost like an UN-set < 1392194366 765580 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understood "markov" :) < 1392194392 223049 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mischievous little dwarf! < 1392194414 673702 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fungot < 1392194414 827146 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fungot (What I've said myself) < 1392194441 171770 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome luserdroog < 1392194442 54234 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13luserdroog: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.) < 1392194473 841473 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooo colors! < 1392194483 949677 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://unemployedprofessors.com/Index.aspx lol < 1392194491 826160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I think the Magic playerbase is split between the people who think Future Sight was the most awesome set ever, and people who don't like it < 1392194496 390913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite polarizing < 1392194498 74754 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my language is going nowhere. < 1392194531 346715 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never got into magic. < 1392194541 244112 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my cousins did pokemon < 1392194561 695954 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although yugioh was a far superior cartoon < 1392194578 408567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dislike Magic nowadays < 1392194584 456572 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1392194593 480848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, I like reading about it, but don't feel much pressure to actually play it, or buy any cards < 1392194626 723899 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: where did i go wrong < 1392194626 877224 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i just wrote :p ( what was i thinking < 1392194636 72593 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what i was thinking :( < 1392194662 920448 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was Zork at first < 1392194709 547135 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm "Legend of Zork" would be a fun title. < 1392194740 214876 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the game-within-a-game you could play zork on virtual telex < 1392194800 717777 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :been reading too many programming books, have to make everything recursive! < 1392194827 724851 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ... shudder ... "inductive" < 1392194899 917918 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :inceptive < 1392194962 38648 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1392195336 565526 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1392195474 611004 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2 < 1392196013 801975 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1392196230 107194 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. There was a group of about 30-50 people, with banners and such, out there on the street; they were playing (loudly) the song "They're Taking the Hobbits to Isengard" out of some kind of portable stereo. < 1392196307 972377 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a pretty amenable group < 1392196763 834772 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1392196776 810074 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1392196960 691873 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1392197094 340947 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1392197790 832458 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1392198163 369582 :mekeor!~user@95-91-235-250-dynip.superkabel.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1392198740 143664 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392199831 948387 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1392200287 703177 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Isengard was in Sweden < 1392200503 735139 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1392200671 744979 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1392200912 687649 :mekeor!~user@95-91-235-250-dynip.superkabel.de QUIT :Quit: :) < 1392200981 99774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They could well be taking the hobbits to Sweden. < 1392200993 330089 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :a chilling thought < 1392201348 542214 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Isengard (SE) - Epic Melodic Power Metal from Vikingstad, Sweden." < 1392201429 967544 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Vikingstad anywhere near Gondor < 1392201656 213923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to be right next to Linköping. Wasn't olsner from there? < 1392201693 37770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We could not understand the location gondor, sweden. Suggestions: Make sure all street and city names are spelled correctly." < 1392201896 298187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a Gondorf near Bitburg, Germany, though. < 1392201997 775601 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Named after Ganondorf, I'm sure.) < 1392202242 191602 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Vikingstad,+Sweden&daddr=Mordor,+Alkmaar,+Netherlands < 1392202282 823082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One does not simply drive and so on. < 1392202301 532502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This route has tolls." Oh, I'm sure it does. < 1392202428 934322 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“This route crosses through multiple countries.” < 1392202505 529161 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This route has giant spiders guarding Cirith Ungol." < 1392202586 861669 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, that wasn't there. But to be fair, they do say "Walking directions are in beta. Use caution – This route may be missing sidewalks, giant spiders or pedestrian paths.") < 1392202720 842603 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1392203661 991163 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1392207118 856444 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.171-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1392207769 503982 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1392207902 81864 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1392208231 41603 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1392209746 844879 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392211272 562220 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1392211411 665371 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1392212088 306714 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1392212131 917254 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1392212213 563199 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1392212358 879515 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1392212385 710463 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.171-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1392212601 884253 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1392213214 502069 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1392213237 761106 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1392213629 936906 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1392213939 125342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1392214051 573068 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1392214677 971325 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1392216136 104157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote i think in any good FAQ the first Q is just "Dear god why?" < 1392216137 512201 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1169) i think in any good FAQ the first Q is just "Dear god why?" < 1392216317 590150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1392216317 743809 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1392216338 947199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the FAQ about HackEgo's recent move. < 1392217045 999222 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1392217061 420480 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1392217178 853537 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1392218800 516 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION idly wonders what "ski-ball" might be < 1392219566 332863 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1392219765 834310 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1392219767 66170 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1392219767 279456 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin > 1392220279 719452 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220283 839835 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220284 354153 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220322 627540 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220326 742306 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220327 257713 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220372 630749 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220376 749578 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220377 264885 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220422 632220 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220426 754394 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220427 269390 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220472 631387 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220476 752991 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220477 267847 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220522 628445 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220526 751402 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220527 266517 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220572 635732 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220576 754559 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220577 269817 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220622 625966 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392220623 216535 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220626 745599 JOIN :#esoteric > 1392220627 260839 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392220675 844070 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1392221022 812084 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1392221304 406387 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392221305 440520 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1392221387 959439 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1392221871 218321 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1392222145 79008 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1392222863 908937 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1392223067 823807 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1392223070 636082 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1392223107 725842 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1392223109 682857 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1392223147 788267 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1392223389 625036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1392224072 9045 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1392224490 186456 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392224728 578562 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@cust-208-22.on5.ontelecoms.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1392224848 696741 :utkarsh!utkarsh@unaffiliated/utkarsh QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1392224932 307513 :utkarsh!utkarsh@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:75b8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392224934 837919 :utkarsh!utkarsh@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:75b8 QUIT :Changing host < 1392224934 910095 :utkarsh!utkarsh@unaffiliated/utkarsh JOIN :#esoteric < 1392224957 206155 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1392225174 108467 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1392225424 859898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1392225753 83025 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1392226200 297211 :JZTech101!~JZTech101@botters/jztech101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1392226349 392539 :JZTech101!~JZTech101@botters/jztech101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392227171 845933 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1392227933 975043 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that mordor trip would only take 220 hours walking continuously! you could do it in a month or so! < 1392227939 917203 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392227980 40937 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.70.43 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1392227980 658374 :utkarsh!utkarsh@unaffiliated/utkarsh QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1392227992 380126 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia : You have my axe! < 1392228022 443229 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this tiny font with no glasses i read that as sex < 1392228039 810210 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to guess male < 1392228072 416594 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are thinking of a different book. < 1392228078 769513 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lord of the Cockring, possibly < 1392228091 738397 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cock of the Ring < 1392228118 96286 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :snowmageddon part2 seems to be less of a disaster than the first so far. people can learn! < 1392228191 408295 :utkarsh!utkarsh@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:75b8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392228990 818640 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.171-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1392230591 587220 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@cust-208-22.on5.ontelecoms.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1392230964 970585 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm not from here, I just happen to live here :) < 1392230975 220291 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :vikingstad is in the middle of nowhere < 1392231137 977905 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you're sort of emanating from there at the moment, anyway. < 1392231171 738735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, we'll probably stop for a night in Linköping somewhere in June. < 1392231184 464076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... what's there to see/do there? < 1392231229 496160 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, I don't really see or do stuff too much < 1392231265 848012 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just check Wikipedia, then. < 1392231314 654879 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Linköping offers a wealth of leisure activities to people of all ages. Residents and visitors are able to enjoy art, theatre, history, concerts, markets, festivals and sporting events." < 1392231321 154517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This article is written like a travel guide rather than an encyclopedic description of the subject. Please help improve it by rewriting it in an encyclopedic style." < 1392231324 128953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't say. < 1392231357 526254 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an aviation museum somewhere outside of linköping, some people have found that interesting < 1392231592 145489 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@cust-208-22.on5.ontelecoms.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1392231700 802944 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you're one of those places with a river. < 1392231706 877171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've spoken on the topic before.) < 1392231739 984867 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. (why would you speak about my river?) < 1392231753 606472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not your river, just cities with rivers and my river-envy. < 1392231768 848972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's no river to speak of here.) < 1392231786 342649 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why river-envy? < 1392231793 266765 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's your kind of thing you can go on boat rides on the river, through locks and stuff < 1392231796 409399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, there's just something about rivers. < 1392231811 42369 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's something about river tam < 1392231912 525929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the One Cockring also give you a permanent erection < 1392231923 150480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a permanent evil erection? < 1392232078 330712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Link%C3%B6ping < 1392232169 13879 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost every great city has a river or is adjacent to a large body of water < 1392232269 223956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a fungot < 1392232269 572783 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that is just a value of type is created containing the syntax for mark if he was really gonna get worse and worse each week, i fnord kara to hold me until i fell over.... < 1392232372 449385 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there's also a lake nearby (10km ish) < 1392232398 133824 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@cust-208-22.on5.ontelecoms.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1392232873 614238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Maps has, for some strange reason, Vättern marked as "vattern" (with a lowercase first letter), with "Vättern" under it in smaller type. < 1392232879 545768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vänern is just "Vänern". < 1392232887 857277 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something must be up with that. < 1392232946 429219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"IT-ceum. Is a computer and computing museum, located in Mjärdevi Science Park where you will find many of Linköping's IT companies. The museum covers both ancient Swedish computers and more current events, such as the demo scene with its realtime multimedia productions. The exhibitions describe both the technical and the social aspects of computing. The museum's signs are both in Swedish ... < 1392232952 442615 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and in English. Free entry." < 1392232954 990821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1392233286 299522 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to have moved since that wiki page was written < 1392234238 895097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"However, instead of putting the language [to block Tesla from operating stores in Ohio] on the Senate floor as a standalone bill, the ban was inserted as an amendment to Senate Bill 137--an unrelated bill that required Ohio drivers to move to the left while passing roadside maintenance vehicles." < 1392234245 765226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's always so sneaky. < 1392234274 691753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I remember something very similar from the European Parliament. < 1392234378 236310 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good queue-based language for me to try? And please don't say fueue < 1392234385 626092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, demoscene stuff in a museum? < 1392234393 762168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a big deal in sweden as well as finland? < 1392234438 221267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Qdeql? < 1392234501 369405 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, still quite small I'd say, but big for being demoscene I guess < 1392234508 206926 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Something less tarpitty? Although I suppose I should give Qdeql a try anyway < 1392234528 874413 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Sceql < 1392234555 704665 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, nah < 1392234602 927109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just start going through Category:Queue-based in asciibetical order. < 1392234714 11398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines glorious winters in a snow-covered cabin, spending the sunless days drinking akvavit, frying reindeer sausage over a wood fire, writing MBR demos, and fucking on a big bearskin rug < 1392234730 664125 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1392234869 565582 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine if the alphabet was named after english letters instead < 1392234871 597881 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be the aybee < 1392234916 842096 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/8d/59/c4/8d59c48bb992eb030dd6e5766206d18c.jpg was included in the monthly departmental email. < 1392234956 710878 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: (Though in all honestly winters here in Southern Finland can be pretty "meh"; like the one we're currently having.) < 1392234963 671719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1392235129 300483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this week in San Francisco: 16°C and partly cloudy < 1392235137 602713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're having our worst-ever drought though < 1392235142 381411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :got a little rain last week but not nearly enough < 1392235157 290935 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1392235260 614587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's already a "Hack the Drought" hackathon scheduled < 1392235266 97087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that doesn't solve the problem then I don't know what will < 1392235310 659301 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :droughts can only be remedied by harnessing the power of node.js + mongodb < 1392235312 291804 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This week in Espoo: days around 1-2 °C, nights around -1°C to zero. Lots of fog and slush. < 1392235562 749015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had this thought I'd take a photo of the university main building every morning, then align them and... well, do some sort of a composite. Maybe just average or use some other aggregate function, or reorder them with a 1D SOM or something and animate. Whatever. < 1392235608 332166 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a representative single frame: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140212-tkk.jpg < 1392235643 732190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`^_^v understands < 1392235644 488034 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/^_^v: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/^_^v: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1392235891 589204 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1392236161 227543 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1392236393 651167 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1392237588 706762 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1392237590 438524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hroughcoin datecoin orretuatecoin regopsitzcoin stacoin neurcoin mespuncoin bfercoin anicerynxcoin mecorcoin mourcoin testfribacoin fingpensivecoin gramblincoin parcoin aniscoin cowcoin finicoin anemationcoin twormulacoin < 1392237654 317334 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Over here all the snow has melted over the past week; now there's not even any slush left < 1392237680 289920 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :By this rate we'll have spring in time for the sports break when you typically go north to ski < 1392237687 577571 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/By/At/ < 1392237759 966975 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/coins < 1392237760 589011 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --eng-1M --esolangs 20 | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g' < 1392237882 638772 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/20/\${1-&}/' bin/coins; coins < 1392237885 716348 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :billecoin eemcoin mancoin fmcoin lobolcoin lockcoin toncoin eturacoin kippingcoin admirilcoin m-codycoin vetcoin bombincoin machelpcoin threkellcoin miniction2coin lewaycoin conveycoin laancoin udacidcoin < 1392237891 782806 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins 5 < 1392237893 63607 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :feiffcoin fcrewcoin denteriftycoin epidcoin tgtecoin < 1392237920 88564 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --finnish < 1392237921 936841 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mäßcoin < 1392237951 545565 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure finnish does not use 'ß' < 1392237971 529707 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Perhaps --esolangs does. < 1392237977 516497 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --swedish 10 < 1392237979 269445 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dadecoin nuttcoin geninicoin itetunacoin autopingcoin delacoin ddgeecoin norftendocoin amulacoin spazioncoin < 1392238508 668079 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the hell came up with 1 *and a half* stop bit? < 1392238523 901238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buh? < 1392238537 439948 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 was too little, 2 was too much? < 1392238605 165538 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :vt100 defaults to 1.5 stop bits and can't be changed, MESS' verious serial emulation stuff doesn't seem to have code for talking to that < 1392238609 322944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :When the CCITT… was standardizing ATM, parties from the United States wanted a 64-byte payload…; parties from Europe wanted 32-byte payloads. Most of the European parties eventually came around to the arguments made by the Americans, but France and a few others held out… 48 bytes (plus 5 header bytes = 53) was chosen as a compromise between the two sides." < 1392238622 363646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/^/"/ < 1392238629 863213 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1392238749 917289 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've wondered where the 53 octet frame size comes from. < 1392238839 540082 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but note that MESS emulates 1.5 stop bits well enough that the simulated null modem sending 1 stop bit *doesn't* work) < 1392239230 566903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1392239569 833168 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1392240938 529406 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://terrycavanaghgames.com/maverickbird/ < 1392241097 295201 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1392241179 574538 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1392241327 110246 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1392242140 265228 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1392242221 951138 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: owie. I reached 10, time to give up :) < 1392242227 864904 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1392242233 712593 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got fed up at 6 < 1392242293 182442 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so at 10 you get a orange circle described as a "bronze medal" < 1392242341 80040 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: ResPlicate!!! :D < 1392242366 665321 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :more tarpitty is better < 1392242394 65139 :utkarsh!utkarsh@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:75b8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1392242404 286258 :trn!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1392242423 140744 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1392242530 861245 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1392242767 283838 :utkarsh!utkarsh@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:75b8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1392242889 683690 :trn!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa JOIN :#esoteric < 1392243237 428814 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you command GCC to output all preprocessor macros? < 1392243357 990259 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a flappy bird clone is it < 1392243365 765154 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst game < 1392243368 736739 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: As in, a list of them? < 1392243375 40954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Yes < 1392243378 665263 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea < 1392243540 434379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run gcc -dM -E - < /dev/null < 1392243541 361364 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#define __DBL_MIN_EXP__ (-1021) \ #define __UINT_LEAST16_MAX__ 65535 \ #define __ATOMIC_ACQUIRE 2 \ #define __FLT_MIN__ 1.17549435082228750797e-38F \ #define __UINT_LEAST8_TYPE__ unsigned char \ #define __INTMAX_C(c) c ## L \ #define __CHAR_BIT__ 8 \ #define __UINT8_MAX__ 255 \ #define __WINT_MAX__ 4294967295U \ #define __ORDER_LITTLE_ENDIAN__ 1 < 1392243991 84481 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's better than flappy bird. but still just as ridiculously hard. best i can get is 10 < 1392244259 675003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :flappy gcc < 1392244269 649819 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :up down up up down < 1392244292 841704 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there must be a brainfuck clone in this, somewhere. < 1392244311 405451 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a brainfuck clone in everything < 1392244320 183803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how the light gets in < 1392244386 864967 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :challenge: invent a flappy bird level such that the only way to win is input a sequence corresponding to a particular flappy-bf program at one second intervals < 1392244459 245648 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/YRgK ... done :) < 1392244489 588579 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flappyfuck. < 1392244642 927247 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that sounds sort of interesting. < 1392244741 457841 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to me < 1392244743 529694 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun < 1392244842 933858 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether it would be fun. < 1392244891 77231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of funny that it needs to be "- < /dev/null" (or "-x c /dev/null") instead of just "/dev/null". < 1392245002 175233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1392245254 626554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: that mordor trip would only take 220 hours walking continuously! you could do it in a month or so! <-- one does not simply walk into mordor hth < 1392245305 74953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kinda-sorta alluded to that already. < 1392245322 13495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Earlier in the logs, I guess.) < 1392245438 926931 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://www.galactanet.com/comic/view.php?strip=363 < 1392245498 933150 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: heh < 1392245907 605404 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :less than 2 minutes till tomorrow, good night. < 1392246105 15849 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :23 hours till tomorrow < 1392246304 896183 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Perhaps you should fly into, or teleport into, so that they don't expect you. < 1392246405 203839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: see int-e's link < 1392246475 75400 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, the other one. < 1392246494 744460 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I don't want to load any web browser right now, but maybe later < 1392246638 772686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi zzo38 < 1392247748 968120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/^_^v < 1392247749 521674 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo No comment. < 1392247771 285072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/^_^v < 1392247772 783124 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1392247800 162916 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1392247802 144547 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rnarycoin 224coin aaicoin snaccoin tifcoin glucoin arambcoin disoroscoin lesunneccoin oftcoin perfcoin prolamicroncoin scolacoin meroscoin thcoin tipsoncoin stalkacoin ximalcoin wikicoin boulacoin < 1392247850 900531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :glucoin has few users, but they tend to stick together. < 1392247899 101628 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also tend to have hyperglycemia. < 1392247935 523049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to mine stalkacoins, they will find you. < 1392247997 554810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikicoin _seems_ like a good idea, until you realize anyone can edit your balance. < 1392248047 294107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oftcoin is surprisingly rare. < 1392248077 505019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :snaccoin is interconvertible with chocolate. < 1392248149 175645 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ximalcoin really ximizes the usefulness of cryptocoin.