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He builds all his esolangs in diesel engines 01:15:45 `run sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/olsner 01:15:48 No output. 01:17:08 `? funpuns 01:17:10 funpuns? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:17:20 `run echo hi | r12 01:17:21 bash: r12: command not found 01:17:22 `run echo hi | r14 01:17:24 bash: r14: command not found 01:17:33 how hard can it be to hit a 3 key 01:17:33 oh no, you forgot to replace the end 01:17:44 `run echo hi | r13 01:17:45 uv 01:17:47 Bike: wat 01:18:26 `run r13 wisdom/funpun 01:18:27 i have /hilight funpuns, by the way 01:18:30 No output. 01:18:36 `? funpuns 01:18:38 funpuns fceø fbz fryyrev naq pbfcynlf Arcrgn Yrvwba ba jrrxraqf. 01:18:51 shachaf: good, good 01:19:30 oerjan: the trouble is that it doesn't adapt to changes in wisdom/shachaf 01:19:43 shachaf: hm. 01:19:46 so imo change bin/? instead 01:19:53 -!- zzo38 has joined. 01:20:00 i am doubtful. 01:20:30 it takes only so much more of this before ? has to do exponential search. 01:23:24 i mean it would need to turn "gur shachas" into the same thing, logically. 01:23:58 `? the oerjan 01:23:59 the oerjan? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:24:24 no i haven't implemented an?/the removal in ?, for precisely the same reason. 01:24:42 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:24:43 (it's in `learn though.) 01:25:14 -!- tromp has joined. 01:25:43 and what if someone tries fffsfsfsfsfsffs which logically should turn into the empty string, WHAT THEN 01:25:52 `? 01:25:53 ​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:27:16 of course if you have general rot-n + s-removal, we can collapse most of wisdom. 01:28:21 `? madness 01:28:22 madness? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:28:34 `learn madness lies thataway. 01:28:39 I knew that. 01:29:08 `run ls wisdom/madness 01:29:10 ls: cannot access wisdom/madness: No such file or directory 01:29:10 `run ls wisdom/madnes 01:29:12 wisdom/madnes 01:29:29 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 01:29:34 PROBLEM? 01:29:47 `? madnesses 01:29:48 madnesses? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:30:07 `run mv wisdom/madnes{,s} 01:30:11 No output. 01:30:54 -!- variable has changed nick to constant. 01:45:02 -!- nisstyre has joined. 01:57:04 -!- tromp has joined. 02:12:51 -!- Sorella has quit (Quit: It is tiem!). 02:54:56 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:57:20 -!- ^v has quit (Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif). 03:24:08 -!- lightquake has joined. 03:25:12 are there any esolangs where every sequence of input bytes is a valid program? discounting ones like Whitespace that just ignore the majority of bytes 03:25:34 http://esolangs.org/wiki/Jot ? 03:25:36 not byte-oriented, but 03:25:56 http://esolangs.org/wiki/BCT too, I suppose 03:26:17 admittedly, not as interesting as you might hope for for such a thing :/ 03:27:27 well, you could make a language Jot' where a Jot' program is interpreted by converting the bytes to bits and then removing '10*' from the end 03:28:13 sure, of course 03:28:23 ...or even just require the number of bits to be divisible by eight... 03:28:36 (probably still TC, I imagine, you should be able to construct some appropriate padding...) 03:28:42 right 03:29:02 I seem to remember reading about more interesting languages like this? but I can't remember their names or anything 03:29:04 it would be very weird if it wasn't 03:29:35 it would be kind of cute to have something that was more like a "regular" language with actual syntactical structure, but that had an overzealous enough error-correction mechanism that any random garbage did something. 03:29:57 `pastelogs ploki 03:29:57 though you'd need it to be pretty weird to have interesting results from that, I guess. 03:30:00 (the thing that inspired this question was a post I read somewhere saying "Lisp has no syntax") 03:30:05 lightquake: do machine codes of various kinds count? 03:30:17 arguably nothing is "invalid" there, just some things cause the machine to triple fault or whatever. 03:30:23 haha 03:30:37 lisp has no syntax <-- just ignore this 03:30:42 oh. I forgot 03:30:43 `relcome lightquake 03:30:45 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.14164 03:30:45 anyway what about brainfuck (with bytes instad of characters) 03:30:47 ​lightquake: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 03:30:59 aww, who made relcome do per-word rainbows? 03:31:00 Bike: presumably it has the same issue as whitespace 03:31:04 i guess you might... yeah 03:31:10 it was so much prettier... uglier?... before 03:31:17 prugly 03:31:22 Didn't mauke say something along the lines of everything is a valid ploki program? 03:31:25 Yes. 03:31:31 2013-12-22.txt:06:49:05: kmc: there is some documentation at http://mauke.hopto.org/stuff/ploki/ploki-0.6.5.1/doc/ 03:31:34 2013-12-22.txt:06:49:16: but like the rest of ploki, it's part of the practical joke 03:31:37 2013-12-22.txt:06:50:16: e.g. it's not obvious from the description of the syntax that ploki has literally no syntax errors 03:31:47 (site is down, like mauke) 03:32:22 well, you can have kinds of errors other than syntax, of course 03:32:27 they're just easier to avoid 03:32:37 ( http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/5015df0b9872/src/ploki/doc to the rescue) 03:32:40 Well, OK. 03:33:00 i prefer per-word rainbows 03:33:07 but i think i was too lazy to make that change myself 03:33:45 lightquake: one downside of trying to make a language like this is that there's a lot of non-printable bytes 03:33:51 but generally people like programs to be textual 03:33:57 sure 03:34:21 so if it's a instruction-per-byte thing (kind of boring, but), either you add a bunch of unnecessary fluff in the non-printable bytes, or humans aren't really going to enjoy writing programs 03:35:03 Jot where you look at the last bit of every byte. 03:35:16 > ord '0' `mod` 2 03:35:18 0 03:35:57 well, that's ignoring the majority of bits 03:35:58 most processor architectures assign a meaning to every byte sequence 03:36:03 though lightquake did say bytes, admittedly >_> 03:36:14 The original question was 19:11 is there an esolang where every sequence of characters/bytes (pick one) is a valid program? 03:36:14 granted many of them will mean "jump to the invalid instruction interrupt handler" but that's still well-defined 03:36:35 But apparently the answer of "characters using a two-character alphabet" isn't good enough. 03:36:45 beep boop 03:37:16 well, the original question I saw was 03:25:12 are there any esolangs where every sequence of input bytes is a valid program? discounting ones like Whitespace that just ignore the majority of bytes 03:38:04 right, the original original was over in #haskell-blah 03:38:37 thankfully my IRC client no longer shows me messages from #haskell-blah :) 03:38:41 one might ask why i'm still in #haskell-blah 03:38:51 it's more bearable nowadays with my 66-nick /ignore list 03:38:58 but at one point you might ask what the point is 03:39:17 one might question why #esoteric continues to be #shachaf-complaining-about-#haskell... 03:39:30 lightquake: anyway, I think this question is maybe more interesting in terms of non-esolangs 03:39:41 since it does appear in the wild at least arguably for things like machine code 03:40:01 I ran /dev/urandom as a http://esolangs.org/wiki/BytePusher program a bunch of times a while ago 03:40:02 Unintentional joke accent http://www.ted.com/talks/yves_morieux_as_work_gets_more_complex_6_rules_to_simplify.html 03:40:10 sometimes there were vaguely interesting results 03:40:32 I have never felt the need to /ignore someone on #haskell* 03:42:11 elliott: that looks neat 03:44:38 What were the vaguely interesting results like? 03:46:35 Firefighters meet Snoop Dogg http://i.imgur.com/b3T3i3a.png 03:46:47 started getting misspelled extracts from the pentagon papers 03:48:24 -!- constant has changed nick to trout. 03:55:08 ion : ahahahahahaha 03:55:46 helliott 04:07:33 ion: reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvWEcfTzJts 04:09:00 lightquake: :-) 04:14:50 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:15:24 -!- tromp has joined. 04:15:57 "Snoop Dogg was nabbed by a real "Snoop Dogg"" adorable 04:16:37 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:16:52 -!- tromp has joined. 04:18:18 all dogs are adorable, until they kill you. ok maybe not those in that competition. 04:18:54 yay dogs 04:19:39 "Firefighters meet Snoop Dogg after alarm goes off in rapper's smoke-filled Melbourne hotel room" 04:19:46 oh you jusnt said that 04:19:55 'A spokeswoman for the Metropolitan Fire Brigade says "smoke from an unidentified source" triggered the alarm in Snoop Dogg's room.' 04:20:19 lolllllllllllllll 04:20:20 also i thought he was named snoop lion now 04:21:01 kmc: i wondered about that last time, apparently he varies it by genre or something 04:21:18 yeah lion is reggae or something right 04:22:04 ah 04:45:16 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:45:51 -!- tromp has joined. 04:49:59 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:50:29 -!- tromp has joined. 05:16:24 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:16:59 -!- tromp has joined. 05:21:29 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:51:57 kmc: with key = 'CBCdemonstration', iv = "\30063G\364`=\267\332\027\032$\252\266_V", plaintext = "HDR!JUNKNOW(16)!\371HY)m\245\016\322\226\303\206K\n\230\275\eNOP!DATANOW(12)!more text...END!" 05:52:17 enc_cbc(key, iv, plaintext) = "HDR!DATANOW(12)!hello there.END!\343\317/\214\003)\320\371\000\001r\345\200\035.!\207\335\356\b\267?]%k\315\357\016\244\366\034m" 05:52:36 now that's just crazy talk. 05:53:19 you can reproducei guess if you had padding you'd need to do a little more work but you can just use junk 05:55:18 kmc: http://slbkbs.org/im.rb 06:23:59 Is this consider to be a OK kind of C code if "enc_rle" is a global variable? if(enc_rle[i].data[0] && !enc_rle[rc].data[strlen(enc_rle[i].data)]) rc=i; 06:25:30 in c++ you could namespace it to limit the damage 06:26:12 madbr: What damage, sorry I do not understand? 06:26:20 well, namespace pollution 06:26:24 (It is a "static" global variable, though) 06:26:32 oh 06:27:22 I am trying to compare the lengths of two strings that are stored in global variables (which are only ever written once) 06:28:49 as long as you don't ever need two instances of that component you're fine I guess 06:29:18 I guess the strings aren't std::string's either right? :D 06:29:30 madbr: It isn't; it is a C code, not C++. 06:30:20 Also, it is a standalone program. 06:32:38 I don't program in C++. 06:34:29 Neither C nor C++ nor any other programming language I know of supports the kind of +|^ operator that I have made up once, and often wanted to use. 06:34:47 what is it and why does it have such a dumb name 06:36:13 I think it's the one that's equivalent to +, | or ^ when there are no bits that are 1 in both operands, and undefined otherwise. The point being that the implementation can pick the most efficient way. 06:36:34 It means that if x&y==0 then x+|^y==x+y, otherwise x+|^y is undefined. 06:37:10 +|^ is kind of a mouthful. 06:37:21 C does have that operator. 06:37:27 It's called + 06:38:39 Oh no, x+y is undefined if (x&y) != 0? All my code is so wrong! 06:39:28 fizzie: It isn't, but that is what the +|^ operator is for, so that it is. 06:40:23 Ah, but Mr. Chaf just said that's the same as +. 06:41:28 i mean that if you #define +|^ + it would behave exactly like zzo38's operator 06:41:47 shachaf: If you write x+y and the compiler can't prove (x&y) == 0, which sounds p. likely, it can't replace it with an or operator even if that would be faster. 06:41:51 But if (a&b)==0 then also a+b==(a|b) 06:41:57 shachaf: Won't that be a syntax error though? 06:46:51 oh god i just had a horrible thought xml as a racket language 06:47:01 I'm sure if Racket was more popular this would be a thing 06:47:17 Which... for config files, it's still better than reading at runtime, but... still. eww 06:47:20 eww.el 07:08:09 -!- madbr has quit (Quit: Rouringu de hajikunda!). 07:22:59 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 07:27:01 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 07:34:47 Are SNAP-qualified foods healthier than the average food? 07:35:04 Wondering if that would be a good personal guideline on eating better 07:39:30 interesting question 07:40:11 -!- prooftechnique has quit. 07:40:23 I would expect it to be politicized to hell 07:41:10 politicans love to micromanage the poor because (being rich themselves) they're convinced that poorness is caused by moral failure that can only be solved by the guiding hand of the rich 07:41:21 also because the ketchup lobby will spend big bucks to get ketchup on the list 07:41:49 but I have zero knowledge of how the decisions are actually made 07:42:51 I think you would be better off coming up with some basic nutritional goals (e.g. total calories, % from protein, % from fat) and looking at the labels that exist on every food 07:44:28 Once I played some computer game that had this mentioned: "I am 40. I am nothing. A snake makes this sound. And I drink this at 4:00." I managed to solve it but as far as I can tell it is probably supposed to say 50, not 40. 07:44:43 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com). 07:45:01 what? what is the solution? 07:46:21 Can you not figure it out? It isn't really so difficult, although I was confused by the 40 at first. 07:46:27 something something hiss tea 07:47:02 do snakes make other sounds? some of them rattle but not typical snakes 07:48:12 I don't know, but that isn't the point. 07:49:46 what is the point? 07:50:02 @snake_ebooks 07:55:22 Sgeo: just a heads up, if you start a trend of better-off people "eating like the poor" i will hurt you. 07:56:33 as for the actual question i half-remember that there are the usual dumb restrictions you get with these things 07:56:47 you know, like red apples are ok but granny apples aren't for no reason, that kinda crap 07:57:57 http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/eligible-food-items enjoying theh pumpkin note?? 07:58:13 "Items such as birthday and other special occasion cakes are eligible for purchase with SNAP benefits as long as the value of non-edible decorations does not exceed 50 percent of the purchase price of the cake." 07:58:51 Bike: the worst is when rich people try to "eat for $1 a day" and talk about how easy it is (you know, as long as you can buy $100 of ingredients in bulk and have a well equipped kitchen and copious free time to cook and shop around) 07:59:31 Bike: ah I see they closed the "birthday cake with a Playstation centerpiece" loophole 07:59:34 couple months? years? back this congressman bought (had a staffer buy) snap stuff and was like WELL SHIT GUESS WE CAN CUT EVEN MORE 07:59:46 had not been that angry at a person in a long time 08:00:18 it's amazing that people with plenty of money to spare think that people who barely scrape by every day are the ones who are bad at managing money 08:00:51 of course when banks are bad at managing money to the tune of billions, we gotta help them out 08:01:52 i've seen too many daily show sketches about that to even care any more, i just kind of smolder 08:02:07 napalm that fucking orchard 08:04:28 https://medium.com/quinn-norton/f3db7e13e6e3 08:04:52 "You're never going to save your way out of being poor unless you're willing to walk away from family and loved ones and let them suffer and sometimes die." 08:05:09 man i know people who did that and are still fucked 08:05:37 still good though. does "some scottish sci-fi authors" mean stross or what 08:05:49 not sure who else 08:05:54 i... don't think i can name any other scottish sci-fi authors 08:06:16 well "money is a sign of poverty" is an iain banks quote i believe 08:10:48 which iain banks book should i read, again 08:11:10 my secret shame is that I've not read any of them 08:14:51 what is the difference between a secret shame and a nonsecret shame 08:15:04 @ask phantom_hoover which iain banks book should i read, again 08:15:04 Consider it noted. 08:19:46 -!- tromp has joined. 08:19:54 kmc: btw zzo38's puzzle _is_ easy (with 50 instead of 40) hth 08:24:14 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 08:24:32 oerjan: are you sure it's easy 08:24:41 quite sure 08:25:07 if it's easy then why don't i know the answer by now 08:25:43 it's because you're failing the turing test hth 08:26:21 if something isn't easy for computers then it's not truly easy 08:26:45 that's just what a computer would say. 08:58:34 http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/todays-outage-for-several-google.html 09:15:21 I should try defining $setter in Kernel, where ($setter foo) is a function that will mutate foo 09:18:08 ($define! ($vau (sym) env ($lambda (new) (eval (list $set! env sym new) (get-current-environment))))) 09:18:10 Not tested yet 09:18:12 oops 09:19:33 ($define! $setter ($vau (sym) env ($lambda (new) (eval (list $set! env sym new) (get-current-environment))))) 09:19:36 Seems to work 09:19:49 Oh, no 09:19:53 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 09:25:31 wat. 09:26:17 new can get double-evaluated 09:26:40 no i mean the whole thing. what does setting a variable outside of an environment even mean. 09:28:13 ($vau (sym env) dyn ($let ((env (eval env dyn))) ($lambda (val) (eval (list $set! env sym val) (make-environment))))) or some shit like that 09:30:12 https://24.media.tumblr.com/f558a070cf4e473ee3053f39b0974a27/tumblr_mzy672mzBK1s71q1zo1_500.png do not disengage 10:02:36 -!- augur_ has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 10:10:37 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 10:54:51 -!- yorick has joined. 11:09:01 THE AXIS OF EVAL 11:10:56 Last night I had a dream that someone wrote such bad Haskell code he accidentally summoned the Great Old Ones and I had to fix the Haskell code and save the day 11:20:01 -!- Slereahphone has joined. 11:24:15 was it me 11:42:47 -!- augur has joined. 11:48:14 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 11:53:56 -!- Slereahphone has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi). 11:54:55 -!- Slereahphone has joined. 12:06:05 Taneb: What did the code look like? 12:06:31 Dunno 12:10:39 Probably was written in EBCDIC 12:28:14 -!- Slereahphone has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:30:30 -!- Slereahphone has joined. 12:46:47 -!- Slereahphone has quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi). 13:21:43 -!- atehwa has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:23:16 -!- nooodl has joined. 14:40:38 -!- Sorella has joined. 14:43:51 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 14:59:46 -!- Frooxius has quit (Quit: *bubbles away*). 15:00:00 -!- Frooxius has joined. 15:06:04 I am disappointed. WolframAlpha doesn't know the volume of a CF card. Nor a SD or MicroSD card. 15:11:25 -!- tromp has joined. 15:18:10 wikipedia lists dimensions, at least 15:18:22 (I only looked at the CF card page) 15:21:23 -!- namaskar_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 15:22:27 -!- namaskar_ has joined. 15:35:44 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 15:36:06 Vorpal: It does know about SD and MicroSD cards. 15:36:33 Vorpal: If you type in "microsd volume", the input interpretation is "SD card form factors", and the result is a table for SD, miniSD and microSD. 15:36:47 Containing length, width, thickness, area, volume, weight and number of pins. 15:37:22 I haven't figured out the right magic words for a CF card, though. If there are any. 15:38:28 It probably doesn't "properly" know the volume of one kind of card, though, if you wanted to e.g. divide something by it. (I've used the Wikipedia numbers for that, earlier.) 16:12:35 -!- kallisti has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 16:29:15 fizzie, oh? I tried "volume of microsd" 16:30:00 fizzie, I wanted to figure out how much storage you would be able to fit into a SSD by filling it with 64 GB MicroSD 16:39:04 (Heh, "CF card form factor" is interpreted as a comparison of three publicly traded companies, "CF Industries (CF)", "Cardio3 Biosciences (CARD)" and "FormFactor (FORM)". 16:41:27 nice :) 16:41:33 I love smart software. 16:45:39 -!- conehead has joined. 16:51:23 fizzie, the answer btw is ~33.07 TB I think 16:51:26 bbl food 16:55:32 Message in a bottle, hmm. 16:56:51 are we playing "how much data can I fit up my nose"? 16:57:26 `addquote Last night I had a dream that someone wrote such bad Haskell code he accidentally summoned the Great Old Ones and I had to fix the Haskell code and save the day 16:57:32 1163) Last night I had a dream that someone wrote such bad Haskell code he accidentally summoned the Great Old Ones and I had to fix the Haskell code and save the day 16:58:03 http://news.co.cr/28000-rubber-ducks-teach-us-about-our-ocean-systems/10534/ -- I wonder what could be done if each of them had a couple of micro SD cards. 16:59:54 -!- oerjan has joined. 17:01:29 -!- namaskar_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 17:03:05 Added in "dream.txt" now. 17:03:13 Taneb: because fising the code made the Great Old Ones go away? 17:03:22 coppro, yes 17:03:41 fisting the code?? 17:03:51 he probably just renamed the HasTur data type. 17:05:55 It is case-sensitive, and the name is specified in ASCII, so I won't expect that part of it at least to be a problem unless conflicting with other libraries, and in such a case there probably is badly written code somewhere in the system anyways. 17:06:15 *fixing 17:06:39 Taneb: hint: never call unsafeAl'whya_al_Cthulhu_fhatagan_K'kili'far_al_is_ar'arkas_fal_dep'wa 17:06:46 Or do you prefer fisting the code? 17:07:07 Rather than fixing it? 17:07:12 -!- luser0 has joined. 17:07:31 zzo38: are you not familiar with the Hastur meme 17:07:52 oerjan: But you wrote HasTur, not Hastur, and since it is case-sensitive it is OK. 17:08:05 oerjan: I am not 17:08:19 Is this the Eastern States Standard Oil programming room? 17:08:21 also, it annoys me when people use 'Cthulhu ftahgn' in inappropriate contexts 17:08:33 *fhtagn 17:08:41 i am not sure if hastur cares about capitalization. 17:08:43 luser0, no that's #essoteric on irc.dal.net 17:09:01 TY Taner 17:09:16 coppro: well the idea is that it is an elder god so powerful that it knows when someone refers to its name... and may decide to show up. 17:09:36 oerjan: ok... 17:09:50 what tags are needed for fhagn outs? 17:09:55 although i vaguely recall it may be a d&d thing rather than an actual cthulhu mythos thing 17:10:01 it doesn't have a page on knowyourmeme 17:10:02 coppro: sorry. the main point was that it is a valid Haskell identifier. 17:10:13 coppro: it's too old to have a page there 17:10:22 zzo38, where is dreams.txt? 17:10:36 `` locate locate 17:10:37 bash: locate: command not found 17:10:40 the old ones were before Haskell, I do not believe it; prove it 17:10:47 Taneb: No, it is called "dream.txt" 17:10:57 zzo38, okay, but where can I find it? 17:11:10 Taneb: http://zzo38computer.org/misc/weird_dream/dream.txt 17:11:12 Is it publicly available? 17:11:16 int-e: fair 17:11:17 Thank you 17:11:18 luser0: are you secretly hastur showing up because we talk about you? 17:11:30 int-e: I just get annoyed at people who think fhtagn means 'rises' or 'wakes' or something 17:11:33 it means 'sleeps' 17:11:36 no, I am a perl program that smells like a cow 17:12:20 moo 17:13:37 luser0: what's your state on this scale: http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/cow ? 17:14:10 is that 0-3; i must be about a five 17:16:06 when you are in the quick sand so deep just wait for the barrels to rise 17:17:39 and so, plenty of overhead 17:19:32 coppro: http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?140676-Summoning-Hastur has a discussion 17:33:39 -!- luser0 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:39:54 I have seen probably more than one different MIME type used for C source codes. 17:42:28 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 17:56:14 -!- namaskar_ has joined. 18:16:09 -!- namaskar_ has quit (Quit: Leaving). 18:23:18 -!- namaskar has joined. 18:34:39 -!- nooga has joined. 18:57:56 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 19:02:11 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 19:26:01 -!- zzo38 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:26:19 -!- zzo38 has joined. 19:44:25 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:45:01 -!- tromp has joined. 19:49:14 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 19:49:49 -!- nisstyre has quit (Quit: Leaving). 19:51:06 I think the Racket devs think having a cohesive community that can talk to each other can solve all problems. Which sounds great until the community gets larger 19:54:07 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 19:57:08 -!- Frooxius has joined. 19:58:30 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 20:12:48 Can you play Sirlin's Puzzle Strike and Yomi games? 20:13:46 -!- Taneb has changed nick to Ngevd. 20:19:11 http://www.fark.com/comments/8115704/The-Iowa-GOP-takes-national-partys-outreach-efforts-to-grassroots-level-by-posting-a-thigh-slappingly-hi-larious-is-someone-a-racist-flowchart-on-its-Facebook-page 20:19:50 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 20:29:07 -!- Ngevd has changed nick to Taneb. 20:32:23 -!- aergus has joined. 20:35:59 V. fancy, an Android tablet internetted just like that, out of the box, when I plugged it to wired Ethernet (via a cheapo USB Ethernet dongle and an USB OTG cable). 20:36:29 Though I could find no place in the menus where it'd have said any details about the network connection was using. 20:46:26 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Quit: MindlessDrone). 21:18:12 -!- mekeor has joined. 21:27:22 Sgeo: just technical problems or does that include community problems too 21:28:25 fizzie: sometimes things work just because they forgot to remove the parts that make them work 21:28:45 my friend says USB keyboards work on iOS for similar reasons 21:28:50 Darwin supports them and nobody bothered removing it 21:35:01 -!- feckturd has joined. 21:35:03 -!- feckturd has left. 21:41:08 -!- nooga has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 21:41:17 -!- nooga has joined. 21:43:42 kmc: I'm thinking specifically of packages with conflicting module names 21:44:10 I'd call that a primarily technical problem 21:50:17 o.O Chicken Scheme once had an SRFI 72 egg but no longer does 21:50:18 :/ 21:59:46 I wonder if racket-langs is more appropriate than racket-lang 21:59:57 heh 22:07:09 -!- mekeor has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 22:10:10 Racket 5.92 was released 22:13:05 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 22:22:21 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 22:31:00 The USB dongle actually mentions Android on the list of things-it-works-on, now that I look at the packaging. 22:36:53 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 22:37:57 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 22:48:39 -!- prooftechnique has joined. 22:49:43 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 23:13:49 I don't a understand, but cpufreq frequency scaling has stopped a-working. The "ondemand" governor seems to no longer exist, and the "conservative" one just doesn't appear in the cpufreq-info or /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors lists, even after manully modprobing it; the module loads, but does nothing. 23:22:21 -!- nooga has joined. 23:24:37 Also cpufreq-info et al. are saying it's using the "powersave" governor, but the speed is still stuck at the highest possible. 23:27:20 Apparently something has switched from acpi_cpufreq to intel_pstate, which is so different. 23:29:09 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58801 it's something vaguely like that. 23:42:14 Maybe you need to set the minimum speed setting then? 23:42:58 The minimum was already set to the hardware minimum. 23:43:22 I guess it's just doing what it wants to do.