< 1386300867 642373 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a second i thought The Onion really made an effort for http://www.theonion.com/articles/slowwitted-conspiracy-theorist-convinced-governmen,34749/ but that seems to be a fan creation instead. < 1386301319 706938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: yo dawg < 1386301320 21466 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​yo yo < 1386301476 572633 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads about MFlow
< 1386301506 467686 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Continuation-based web framework without the ugly URLs and need to store hard-to-serialize continuations? < 1386301539 619757 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NOTE2: Since the SOH uses HTTPS, the browser reject the load of third party scripts, such is JQuery, so look at the notes of each example." < 1386301543 493012 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ... fudge? < 1386301564 575595 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suddenly I'm not sure this person is competent to write a web framework tutorial < 1386301714 695307 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5269634/address-width-from-ram-depth fuck the world < 1386301793 952775 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....that person is the creator of the web framework in question < 1386301799 701979 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to go sit down and cry somewhere. < 1386301855 198614 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't "stateful, RESTful web framework" kind of an oxymmoron < 1386301890 952940 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It puts state in its URIs fairly directly. < 1386301898 87229 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mflowdemo.herokuapp.com/ < 1386301911 238008 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Click Database examples. Then click Database examples again. Then click Database examples again. < 1386302009 140825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb also some parts of that could have needed subtitles hth < 1386302009 329509 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386302248 300457 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386303047 356852 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm growing more and more convinced that nobody actually uses verilog. there's no other explanation < 1386303242 823433 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1386303347 360093 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1386303425 302804 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386303501 959127 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386304303 655264 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386306671 886220 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-nomad < 1386306672 114549 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1386306685 241868 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loam < 1386306685 431015 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan asked 3h 1m 48s ago: WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS < 1386306685 431186 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 1h 17m 56s ago: also some parts of that could have needed subtitles hth < 1386306708 673139 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan all esolangers have too much time. It's an art, you need too much time. < 1386306708 861937 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386306728 689004 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I think I have precisely the wrong accent for transcribed captions or sanity < 1386306728 877897 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386306771 569178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lost < 1386306771 757783 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb said 1m 2s ago: all esolangers have too much time. It's an art, you need too much time. < 1386306771 757949 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb said 42s ago: I think I have precisely the wrong accent for transcribed captions or sanity < 1386306874 797692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sanity is not necessary, just diction. < 1386306888 413515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also INTERCAL does too have arrays hth < 1386307346 216148 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew I was going to make mistakes about INTERCAL < 1386307378 305726 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I've been messing with Python again (help) < 1386307388 217870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry you're doomed < 1386307392 912614 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what do you need help with < 1386307407 328209 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, my program has behaviour that I do not know the cause of < 1386307418 577051 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly because my program is stupid and weird < 1386307438 91852 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i was going to suggest that maybe it is the program author that is stupid and weird hth < 1386307457 275300 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, the program author is definitely acting stupid and weird < 1386307470 607556 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether he is actually stupid or weird, nobody knows < 1386307473 492395 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and having unexpected behavior? < 1386307482 99395 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I had just missed a break statement < 1386307492 122239 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1386307493 542192 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1386307498 215418 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not so stupid and weird < 1386307503 150083 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1386307503 339032 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1386307503 980403 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll give you a break (this time) < 1386307916 88147 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1386308082 706183 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czjaNCR0SBA < 1386308086 229290 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MegaZeux < 1386308093 694691 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea what that video si about < 1386308254 989644 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1386309974 765938 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1386310208 99171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1386310925 53619 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1386311232 267525 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1386312481 936124 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386312879 178941 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-213-116.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386313663 951772 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell is there such a thing as a lut1 and why are they in this schematic < 1386313804 755140 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's for routing. wack, man. < 1386313836 164065 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of weird how there's like a billion levels of abstraction and things that don't exist in something that's nominally 'close to metal'. < 1386314390 797186 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1386314852 471821 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386314976 444661 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1386315229 197122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think that's air you're breathing now? < 1386315256 294340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like air < 1386315268 474787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's so easy? < 1386315308 442247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no because breathing it is fun + healthy < 1386315321 882079 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.102.71 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1386315328 954517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :health tips from shachaf < 1386315372 172375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that story (heinlein?) where the person was complaining about air not being free < 1386315386 320180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it was in The Cat Who Walks Through Walls < 1386315400 404925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :says http://bastiatscorner.blogspot.com/p/heinlein-quotes.html < 1386315568 411349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what else is fun + healthy to breathe though < 1386315578 876003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugz hour with kmc < 1386315667 783065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it weird how when you're writing prose, the first 20 words take as long as the next 1,000 < 1386315670 882380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how it is for me anyway < 1386315704 993647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's hard to write anything without becoming demoralized by how terrible it is < 1386315721 97370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :'( < 1386315813 763962 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :write drunk, edit sober < 1386315836 300557 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though actually I find that staying up for 26-30 hours is best for the writing of prose < 1386315861 714405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you writing < 1386315892 134761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :technical blog post < 1386315903 155534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so drunkenness may be unhelpful < 1386315918 916857 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, my advice is for humanities papers, not things that have to make sense < 1386315928 731028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your standards for the humanities are low < 1386315937 52187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you went to a tech school < 1386315948 393645 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today in bad Hackage libraries, meet wai-middleware-headers < 1386315949 362342 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Adds cors support to WAI" = Just shove Allow-Access-Control-Origin: * in front of each response < 1386315950 822864 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my high school had decent standards < 1386315955 650443 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :much higher than tech < 1386315961 11409 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/seanhess/wai-middleware-headers/blob/master/Network/Wai/Middleware/Headers.hs < 1386315963 401389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read that as "wet-middleware-headers" < 1386315982 338916 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are tech schools good should i go to one < 1386315992 476897 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i wrote the hs papers on sleep dep too < 1386315996 233433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a comprehensive list of HTTP headers, and which ones would be good names for bands < 1386316010 36904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is there anything which would not be a good name for a band < 1386316037 855851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at last year's MIT Mystery Hunt there was a team whose name was the complete text of _Atlas Shrugged_ < 1386316075 316878 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386316075 698860 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask your doctor if tech schools(TM) are right for you < 1386316095 866169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it turns out that Google Docs does not have a size limit on the text in a cell) < 1386316117 955278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :™ < 1386316137 968779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: as my attorney what do you advise < 1386316145 216697 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1386316148 10401 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386316152 419686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb pikhq < 1386316223 357519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mehcallister < 1386316329 138670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Z111.jpg < 1386316362 801701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apathy is good but what should i care about < 1386316372 286298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of not caring < 1386316518 588887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :NOTHING IS BEYOND OUR REACH | Although maybe if something else strange is done, it might not? | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1386317010 746691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'OCTOPUS' 'EARTH GLOBE AMERICAS' < 1386317015 88710 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown character. < 1386317043 848331 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :combining octopus above < 1386317048 635769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote OCTOPUS < 1386317050 443370 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :185) Invent the game called "Sandwich - The Card Game" and "Professional Octopus of the World" (these names are just generated by randomly) \ 214) ais523: Maybe it is better, because I don't think the octopus will live very well in the tree. But the difference is that the Internet is lying and you cannot see such things; you could m < 1386317189 147880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Miracle Techno from Planet X < 1386317193 982244 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1386317368 63155 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1386317458 917405 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386317758 815402 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION eyes kmc
< 1386317764 824491 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6a4EFa7wK8 < 1386317912 816862 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1386318182 862656 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1386318421 707074 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386318463 505859 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you like an octopus < 1386318612 778952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"He knew how to outmaneuver them, to outflank them, and to outthink them. He knew full well, many years ago, what today's octopus wrestlers are just beginning to learn—that it is impossible for a man with two arms to apply a full nelson on an octopus; he knew full well the futility of trying for a crotch hold on an opponent with eight crotches." < 1386318640 798429 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are all good things to know < 1386318642 362762 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386318895 457153 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1386318897 815628 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1386318898 975392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1386319044 664042 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1386319506 131877 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To skip these instructions, press 4. To hear the list of questions, press 1. Press 7 to press 3. To press 1, press 8. To press 6, press 2. Press 5 to press 7. To hear the answers, press 6. Press 0 to press [star]. To hear the instructions backwards, press 9. Press [star] to press 0. Press 3 if you really want to." < 1386319591 678793 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is it transitive? < 1386319608 852655 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. if i press 0, will it cause an endless loop? < 1386319624 864368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember. < 1386319820 824615 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess raising an issue on the project "This entire concept is idiotic and bad" would be a bit rude < 1386320028 324263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :submit a pull request which removes all every file < 1386320253 208521 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386320265 846884 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might submit a pull request adding stuff to the README < 1386320288 884030 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see a use-case, I think it would be useful for dropbox (they're doing equivalent I believe) < 1386320305 38057 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "adds cors support"... doesn't cut it < 1386320309 293447 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to write a compliant Underload interpreter, wasn't I? < 1386321705 773832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm so are computers / languages with limited memory typically equivalent to a finite state machine or to a linear bounded automaton? < 1386321745 830428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says the latter but I think a LBA has a bound which grows with the length of the input string < 1386321774 627084 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if the program is inputted on a tape maybe they are linear bounded? < 1386321788 229065 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if the program is internally stored then finite state < 1386321804 436891 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1386321834 460639 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why you are trusting me on this, though < 1386321933 445678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :trust no one < 1386321962 498375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the truth is out there < 1386321968 361541 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to believe < 1386321978 38374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a hug < 1386321982 428571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs shachaf
< 1386322015 401121 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you two see my esolangs talk? < 1386322024 387881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet but i will watch it < 1386322034 173649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know esolangs could talk at all. < 1386322036 369205 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's not that great) < 1386322048 929253 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, here's a video of them in the act! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7FGKQu70TU < 1386322076 668127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard that the video is not that great < 1386322093 128605 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my internet connection is bad < 1386322093 448532 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it was recorded on one of my friend's laptop < 1386322107 890013 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I was kind of nervous < 1386322121 316101 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have the feeling my pronunciation of "esoteric" is nonstandard < 1386322126 948773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i like it too much to check < 1386322141 662640 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it's more likely mine is, I pronounce a fair few words incorrectly < 1386322170 967701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, audience participation < 1386322177 763863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm i don't know what a programming language is < 1386322211 557861 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, my pronunciation was wrong throughout < 1386322235 947797 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i can't watch this, everything is too slow < 1386322250 826030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo come to california and talk about esolangs here < 1386322254 315767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :would attent < 1386322255 54626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1386322293 126886 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would if you played for the flight and the hotel < 1386322300 379173 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386322313 515362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do i have to play < 1386322328 2528 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The... most dangerous game < 1386322340 994717 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=1488 < 1386322386 178274 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good talk, but it didn't mention Feather < 1386322390 720416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :deal < 1386322625 856920 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386323216 824507 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1386323467 537979 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386323478 2074 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1386323530 62675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION concludes his writing for the evening by inserting "FIXME: this is bullshit"
< 1386323607 238228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :TODO: hugz < 1386323901 159748 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386323980 495399 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386324376 195865 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386324879 31161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: file that in the hug tracker < 1386324920 741696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nsa is tracking our hugs < 1386324941 667698 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo it's time for untrackable, anonymous hugs < 1386324982 709630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know any good zero-knowledge hugs < 1386325017 760090 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1386325053 331338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RSA blind hugs < 1386325056 887805 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shamir hug sharing < 1386325260 431178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc gives good hugz < 1386325269 23088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1386325280 309066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's some sort of established social norm for how long a hug should be that i wasn't really aware of < 1386325311 14329 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there are many such norms and it's complicated < 1386325312 435623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but kmc goes a little longer than that. it's like a different level of hug < 1386325319 522470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1386325321 437854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hug++ < 1386325333 748736 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1386325349 428065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like that diner we went to that advertises that you always get a little extra milk shake in the can < 1386325351 838649 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386325354 677527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember that place < 1386325368 507188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1386325372 389919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a common property of diners < 1386325378 457004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think they make a big deal about it usually < 1386325393 290289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok kmc is like a diner that doesn't make a big deal about it < 1386325398 442311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not a diner expert < 1386325414 543311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dexpert < 1386325448 909616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway perhaps it's only that i'm bad at telling which of the many complicated social norms apply < 1386325455 380728 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1386325462 270078 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that i'm bad at following the prevailing norms < 1386325464 957975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just like hugs < 1386325474 830119 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386325499 438810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are so easy < 1386325503 690046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also good < 1386325504 436240 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-208.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1386325516 70698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1386325518 210636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that "macaron" and "macaroon" refer to two completely different cookie-type things < 1386325526 227005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i knew but forgot < 1386325538 848918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1386325541 995655 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-208.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1386325542 184308 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386325548 358917 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to be confused with Macaroon, Macron, McCarron, or Macaroni. < 1386325683 227093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had some today and they were good < 1386325687 974399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but too sweet < 1386325695 127928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe not too sweet it's hard to say < 1386325702 946809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one < 1386325708 164560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hugs? < 1386325716 915636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo how can hugs be too sweet < 1386325722 716706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i meant macarons < 1386325802 51597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am v. tired < 1386325992 127227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's independence day < 1386326001 323119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whose < 1386326001 574162 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time ion < 1386326001 838491 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for ion is Fri, 06 Dec 2013 12:33:21 +0200 < 1386326009 609535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :.fi < 1386326013 97742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1386326018 357784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy finland to us all < 1386326039 586399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :independence from... sweden? no, russia < 1386326077 930509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :russia started having a revolution and a civil war and finland was like "see ya" < 1386326096 266475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION visits google.fi
< 1386326315 152916 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.102.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386326536 261818 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386326697 266132 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \(x, y) -> (x>1) ==> (x**y > (y::Double)) < 1386326698 815395 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1386326704 596715 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \(x, y) -> (x>1) ==> (x**y > (y::Double)) < 1386326705 941402 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1386326738 293096 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \(x, y) -> (x>1) ==> (x**y > (y::Double)) < 1386326739 557949 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 4 tests and 1 shrink): < 1386326739 746659 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : (1.1686502123077922... < 1386326774 393818 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm
[3~h < 1386326800 315472 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386327218 347140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you have a link to a copy of "Liking What You See" < 1386327260 59485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ibooksonline.com/88/Text/liking.html i guess but it's poorly formatted < 1386327269 878254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think maybe technically it isn't supposed to be online so sometimes copies disappear < 1386327281 182251 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's -- yes, that one, but the formatting is bad < 1386327291 363051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also it pops up a "like us on facebook" popup after a few seconds < 1386327317 775854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do have a pdf of the whole book < 1386327585 36723 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386328382 232891 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like past 1pm and I just woke up. < 1386328383 733032 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks independence day < 1386328385 341523 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, independence day. Thindependence day. < 1386328440 435664 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, did you see my esotalk? < 1386328445 746627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one traditionally celebrate finnish independence day < 1386328494 316683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I did not see it. < 1386328514 836085 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7FGKQu70TU < 1386328540 155312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: sleeping until like past 1pm < 1386328550 933187 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i guess is finnish for 13 < 1386328561 332575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: My wife's family has a tradition of baking christmas gingerbread cookies, but I don't think that's standard. < 1386328583 42753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Canceled this year due to a cold.) < 1386328634 972204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also we're going to have that Pallini event I was talking about but that's not standard either. < 1386328653 461985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :any kind of food / booze / explosions < 1386328674 635786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ate gingerbread macarons < 1386328697 962110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the thing most people do is to watch the Official Party (where all the Important People are invited) on TV. < 1386328710 966932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1386328720 996257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all the important people < 1386328724 90076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure i wasn't invited < 1386328757 30957 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was invited but couldn't make it due to presenting an esotalk < 1386328772 111492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_(Finland)#State_festivities < 1386328774 257789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that the trifecta < 1386328784 704086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "beer, burritos, bong hits" another instance of it < 1386328801 661455 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, also Tuntematon sotilas. < 1386328829 169650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :liberté = explosions, égalité = food, fraternité = booze? < 1386328890 240199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess liberté has to be bong hits as well then unless we're willing for things to get confusing < 1386328945 129612 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we only have the booze component here, but we do that for every possible excuse. < 1386328972 265724 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where "we" refers to Finland in general, this time. < 1386328988 549543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i lived in finland would i booze < 1386329167 439032 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1386329200 746798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not required, it's only strongly encouraged. < 1386329210 764260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1386329218 99406 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :& dreams of finnish vodka < 1386329332 23362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo move your independence day to july, then you can do grilling / swimming / drinking of beers in the outdoors / etc < 1386329340 292332 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pbflist < 1386329341 846661 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :pbflist: shachaf Sgeo quintopia ion < 1386329345 980855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wise move by the signers of the Declaration of Independence < 1386329372 351117 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: already pbflisted < 1386329383 879712 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should be on the list < 1386329410 260567 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would i want to be on the list < 1386329431 33869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're not on the list why are you hilighting us < 1386329540 731306 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should pbflist *do* something? < 1386329804 156898 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386329943 866533 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: they have a midsummer holiday < 1386329955 329373 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says "Rituals include bonfires, cookouts, a sauna and spending time together. Heavy drinking is also associated with the Finnish midsummer." < 1386329963 363361 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically it sounds like they've got that covered < 1386329998 462101 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also since when does US independence day involve swimming?) < 1386330087 349677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Has anyone followed your #esoteric whiteboardlink? < 1386330465 785877 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/heman.jpg < 1386330515 144994 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, of the six people in the audience, a couple have already been to #esoteric and I don't think any of the others are here now < 1386330785 444812 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what did you think of the talk? < 1386330816 440266 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, doesn't everybody look like that < 1386331673 262546 :efgdgre!~wanghaido@113.97.55.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386332085 142819 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386332124 285365 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386332171 250195 :efgdgre!~wanghaido@113.97.55.242 PART :#esoteric < 1386333194 756456 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1386333271 555460 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowadays if you write #esoteric some people probably will go on twitter . < 1386333289 850101 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, I did write #esoteric@irc.freenode.net < 1386333306 478939 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the people there in person were familiar with IRC < 1386333386 76973 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: What was the audience btw? < 1386333456 393118 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you sound british < 1386333460 382506 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that correct? < 1386333464 636777 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am british, yes < 1386333481 928211 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was some people from my uni's computer enthusiasts' society < 1386333551 859925 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb did a talk? < 1386333754 633735 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1386333763 678338 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like your pronunciation of Urban Mueler < 1386333782 100770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urban Mauler. < 1386333809 698380 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :urban muueueeuler < 1386333877 813694 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: So far I've only watched the first ten minutes, but, well, actually, I don't really have any comments. Except that you looked kind of more normal than I was expecting from my conception of the Abstract Taneb, but that's not really a comment about the talk itself. < 1386333939 578728 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, how horrendous was it? < 1386333946 741717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice choice of related videosin the sidebar, though. ("Brother Panic: Programming Chakras in The Dream World", "PHP Programming Language For Newbies - 11 - PHP Functions", ...) < 1386333959 755264 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7FGKQu70TU < 1386333968 128525 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386333996 84088 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the surname Miller comes fro Mueller... < 1386334008 909832 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: It does < 1386334010 80036 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, good job on pronouncing esoteric the right way < 1386334035 281077 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the kind of profession that has something todo with windmills and corn stuff < 1386334044 282984 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1386334046 879300 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I can't actually tell if that was sarcastic or sincere < 1386334050 794733 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense < 1386334068 175091 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Miller = Mueller, Smith = Schmied and so on < 1386334077 498351 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, elliott_ insists the right way to say it is with a short 'eh' at the start, i think this is stupid & wrong < 1386334105 206730 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: If I wouldn't have already known the name I would have misunderstood it < 1386334123 692482 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, Wiktionary says short e, as does my knowledge of ancient greek < 1386334133 616644 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I must agree that short 'eh' sounds stupid < 1386334158 504326 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although with my pronunciation of finite that may make me somewhat hypocritical < 1386334165 992573 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: but that's ok. Pronouncing foreign names is hard < 1386334169 38472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Mylläri" in Finnish.) < 1386334188 889982 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that looks worryingly Indo-European < 1386334191 542553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though not a common surname here, I think.) < 1386334207 247817 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :same way you talk about ksylophones, then? < 1386334245 307924 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1386334265 106610 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386334273 250756 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386334339 905219 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, at least xylophone is consistent with most of the other words beginning with hang on I'm complaining about English being inconsistent I'll stop < 1386334366 447232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Probably Sweden's fault again; it usually is. (It's "mjölnare" there, I believe.) < 1386334374 579179 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's exactly my point, we pronounce initial x as z, in greek it was just ks < 1386334403 557038 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I was going into a rant about how the common pronunciation of finite is awful < 1386334449 943511 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: pronunciation of finite/infinite in English is crazy < 1386334493 269431 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually how did I pronounce Mueller < 1386334521 992094 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sign/signal, finite/infinite, cycle/bicycle, number/{all adjectives starting wtih nume} < 1386334522 720073 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also "xylophone" is spelled "ksylofoni" in Finnish.) < 1386334552 178250 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :singer/singe < 1386334561 835682 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/finger < 1386334794 925569 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :numerous, numeric, numerical, numeral, numeracy, numerator, numerology, numerate, Numenor, < 1386334802 548306 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's so many words starting with nume- < 1386334957 65304 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Númenor, it starts with núme-. < 1386335006 374229 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386335012 747555 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386335126 287322 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Like mule with an r at the end :) < 1386335133 689236 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1386335134 768006 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386335139 118264 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Urban like the english word urban < 1386335152 63125 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, I was going by the yoghurt company < 1386335163 455040 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And misremembering that anyway < 1386335385 165698 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386335511 28334 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386335513 679819 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386335738 999037 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386335850 366055 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386335940 846998 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good what-the-fungot-is-eisc morning! < 1386335941 74492 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'd rather have a fold up keyboard." says the official documentation < 1386335968 833640 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1386335986 639201 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curious thing to put in the official documentation. < 1386336005 537260 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning morning ruddy < 1386336006 46649 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. What do you think, fungot? < 1386336433 749973 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386337053 748700 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://heh.fi/tmp/dream.png < 1386337104 375399 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386337139 574006 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1386337139 762800 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1386337464 220619 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386337471 207763 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386337636 268142 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/landondyer/kasm/blob/master/LICENSE < 1386338056 155450 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1386338675 765896 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, brilliant < 1386338697 108572 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Are you referring to the esowiki article "EISC"? < 1386338711 164383 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i thought it was merely 'funny' before i realised the picture was of mandela) < 1386338725 510098 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386338744 181436 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I am. < 1386338788 88544 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I uploaded it to imgur. http://imgur.com/gallery/Zp71DUL < 1386338792 122191 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: as a professional working in the IT field, I agree. < 1386338907 859891 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i'm watching < 1386338977 778438 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while we're complaining about Taneb's pronunciation of things istr quine is pronounced queen? but maybe i'm wrong < 1386339019 53491 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. i am < 1386339041 372717 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where the heck did i pick that up) < 1386339072 313841 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Show must go on < 1386339234 300167 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's an Esoteric Instruction Set Computer < 1386339237 995982 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like CISC, RISC < 1386339244 623133 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only logical that there has to be an EISC. < 1386339474 749624 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone clearly hates RMS < 1386339672 718423 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd want a license that when used commercially requires you to donate 1% of earnings with said product to some non-profit organisation not related to the own company < 1386339750 858018 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386341716 839027 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386342863 252691 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1386342863 479090 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Infiltrating" to "Limping" < 1386342882 511012 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. how can I apply that to ACL in CSV for an ERP? < 1386342896 141548 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :erotic roleplay? < 1386342902 785238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish. < 1386342945 981157 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuck with undocumented permission lists for models in an Enterprise Resource Planning Platform (namely, OpenERP). < 1386343116 20700 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1386343190 637037 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1386343295 707761 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan why are you øing the entries? < 1386343295 936544 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386343324 438192 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386343585 955419 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386343888 323881 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1386343893 93543 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :{string(m)[]{"\"",",","\\","{string(m)[]{","};for(int(k):m[5])cout<\nusing namespace std;\nint main(void) {\ncout << "Hello, world!" << endl;\nreturn 0;\n}' >bin/a.cpp; g++ a.cpp -o bin/a; bin/a < 1386344095 209236 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :g++: a.cpp: No such file or directory \ g++: no input files \ bash: bin/a: No such file or directory < 1386344099 942379 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '#include \nusing namespace std;\nint main(void) {\ncout << "Hello, world!" << endl;\nreturn 0;\n}' >bin/a.cpp; g++ bin/a.cpp -o bin/a; bin/a < 1386344109 925172 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1386344124 805316 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/a{,.cpp} < 1386344128 610422 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386344137 790693 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think we do. < 1386344193 989927 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have any of you seen the King James Programming tumblr/ < 1386344223 560106 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I saw. < 1386344230 692106 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the guy who runs it < 1386344252 223453 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you think of it? < 1386344274 382917 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lauged, I smiled, I need to spam my cow orkers with it :D < 1386344309 604776 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: nah, then I'd have to port this line to not use the geordi prelude and it would be too long < 1386344326 538555 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run pwd < 1386344328 41105 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1386344353 315879 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only because of not using the geordi prelude, but because of all that echo '\n and gcc stuff I have to add < 1386344395 626447 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: we could probably add a command to HackEgo to remove the need to call echo & g++ directly < 1386344572 225657 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '#!/bin/bash\ncat >/tmp/in.cpp <<<"$@"; g++ -o /tmp/a.out /tmp/in.cpp; /tmp/a.out' >bin/runcpp < 1386344575 927691 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386344579 99191 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that? < 1386344585 5493 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: or just ask Eelis or someone running a geordi to join it here < 1386344655 195000 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see http://eel.is/geordi/ < 1386344749 442878 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`runcpp #include \nusing namespace std;\nint main(void) { cout << "Hello, world!" << endl; return 0; } < 1386344750 649591 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/runcpp: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/runcpp: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1386344760 120372 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/runcpp < 1386344763 248613 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386344764 648336 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`runcpp #include \nusing namespace std;\nint main(void) { cout << "Hello, world!" << endl; return 0; } < 1386344768 532594 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/in.cpp:1:20: warning: extra tokens at end of #include directive \ /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../../lib/crt1.o: In function `_start': \ (.text+0x20): undefined reference to `main' \ collect2: ld returned 1 exit status \ /hackenv/bin/runcpp: line 2: /tmp/a.out: No such file or directory < 1386344790 658797 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: maybe it's not processing \n as a new line? < 1386344809 392760 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :-e should process \n < 1386344816 588007 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -e I mean < 1386344831 180042 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1386344834 348280 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You meant in the source code < 1386344839 118118 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah :) The $@ bit < 1386344887 722686 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '#!/bin/bash\nsed 's/\\n/\n/g' >/tmp/in.cpp <<<"$@"; g++ -o /tmp/a.out /tmp/in.cpp; /tmp/a.out' >bin/runcpp && chmod a+x bin/runcpp < 1386344891 255814 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386344897 746828 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: try again < 1386344901 296276 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`runcpp #include \nusing namespace std;\nint main(void) { cout << "Hello, world!" << endl; return 0; } < 1386344904 3281 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 2: unterminated `s' command \ /hackenv/bin/runcpp: line 3: /n/g: No such file or directory \ /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../../lib/crt1.o: In function `_start': \ (.text+0x20): undefined reference to `main' \ collect2: ld returned 1 exit status \ /hackenv/bin/runcpp: line 3: /tmp/a.out: No such file or dire < 1386344910 599118 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :baah. < 1386344936 678419 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, bah < 1386344968 694616 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '#!/bin/bash\nsed s:\\\\n:\\n:g >/tmp/in.cpp <<<"$@"; g++ -o /tmp/a.out /tmp/in.cpp; /tmp/a.out' >bin/runcpp && chmod a+x bin/runcpp < 1386344972 218738 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386344975 212572 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Escaping is hard. < 1386344979 761441 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is. < 1386344981 430034 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`runcpp #include \nusing namespace std;\nint main(void) { cout << "Hello, world!" << endl; return 0; } < 1386344985 102093 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/in.cpp:1:20: warning: extra tokens at end of #include directive \ /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../../lib/crt1.o: In function `_start': \ (.text+0x20): undefined reference to `main' \ collect2: ld returned 1 exit status \ /hackenv/bin/runcpp: line 2: /tmp/a.out: No such file or directory < 1386344989 743428 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up. < 1386344992 165302 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: heh < 1386345050 95774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1386345059 857611 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll give it a shot later I suppose < 1386345106 550264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-løud < 1386345106 741655 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 30m 10s ago: why are you øing the entries? < 1386345119 918063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i have no idea what you are talking about? < 1386345138 431111 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: steal the geordi prelude too < 1386345164 399018 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: what's it do? < 1386345195 349552 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: includes lots of headers by default, plus defines a few utility macros and stuff that come useful in an evalbot < 1386345205 416713 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/Eelis/geordi/blob/master/prelude/prelude.hpp < 1386345241 566542 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you are adding «ø» to entries. < 1386345243 89294 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://eel.is/geordi/ does tell some things about it < 1386345275 440342 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think it would be easier to ask Eelis to join his bot here < 1386345394 78144 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I wonder if we can't just have HackEgo ask geordi < 1386345398 704842 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and echo its response < 1386345416 480246 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to chain multiple bots together? < 1386345418 988750 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that that's any easier. Just out of curiousity. < 1386345432 509184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i cannot on the spot see a single example on the HackEgo repository front page < 1386345465 48429 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: am I confusing you with someone else? < 1386345489 804493 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN... er, reddit: http://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1s6wce/nelson_mandela_has_passed_away/cduxlj5 < 1386345514 543711 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, yes I am. my mind once again failed to distinguish you from olsner. < 1386345540 907627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1386345557 563985 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well, at least the poster had the grace to stand corrected < 1386345578 280536 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1386345598 740731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /bin/ls wisdom | grep '[[:upper:]]' < 1386345600 417921 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYONE \ Ø \ wisisis "This isn't an actual wisdom, just a tribute." < 1386345610 118516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/EVERYONE < 1386345613 828978 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386345622 731667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/Ø < 1386345624 68956 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ø escaped due to a sensitive case bug < 1386345626 692835 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: I did that (chaining bots) once < 1386345633 318197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the others are intentional. < 1386345671 322039 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, at one point I hooked jevalbot so the J interpreter can call a foreign function that made my bot ask buubot in private message and return the result to the J script < 1386345700 376154 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can no longer do that now < 1386345703 652832 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat wisdom/wisis* < 1386345705 111817 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386345711 261521 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1386345712 627393 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf instead. < 1386345724 775272 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1386345728 690334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's simple, olsner is swedish with a nick that looks danish, while i am norwegian with a nick that looks swedish hth < 1386345744 357372 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom | tr a-z n-za-m < 1386345745 977439 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Af gur jvfqbz qverpgbel pbagnvaf znal svyrf anzrq nsgre avpxf, yvfgvat vg va choyvp naablf crbcyr. Tel uggcf://qy.qebcobkhfrepbagrag.pbz/h/2023808/jvfqbz.cqs vafgrnq. < 1386345755 646794 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hides under his desk. «je suis sain d'esprit. je suis sain d'esprit. je suis sain d'esprit.»
< 1386345764 937533 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo wisdom/* | tr a-z n-za-m < 1386345766 306930 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :jvfqbz/` jvfqbz/`? jvfqbz/ jvfqbz/_̰̆̓_�̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_͂͋͒ͧ͋�̯͙̬̬̦̯̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ jvfqbz/? jvfqbz/?? jvfqbz/@ jvfqbz/\ jvfqbz/☃ jvfqbz/⌨ jvfqbz/⊥ jvfqbz/🐐 jvfqbz/̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̚̚� < 1386345769 679539 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAARGH! < 1386345781 586627 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles b_jonas
< 1386345784 779184 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1386345797 827396 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintophi! < 1386345831 421013 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just woke up < 1386345846 712743 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :11am is a nice time to wake up. < 1386345862 13842 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes sir < 1386345870 287465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the olsner family comes from: germany, preussen, and luchtenbugel. source: http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=olsner < 1386345870 481441 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the weekend < 1386345870 679250 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.79.10.191 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386346016 753962 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi drone < 1386346173 137726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i also just woke up hth < 1386346195 760189 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime oerjan < 1386346195 968638 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for oerjan is Fri Dec 6 17:09:55 2013 < 1386346204 43430 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is it the freakin' weekend baby? < 1386346209 950067 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1386346218 278309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see if we can get rid of boily's sanity already. < 1386346236 614694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well that too. < 1386346292 945234 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION senses a disturbance in the Sanity...
< 1386346431 339484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the time of accelerated mass... < 1386346463 301168 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386346467 614923 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the time of change in momentum... < 1386346551 41593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's working across the distance... < 1386346600 619495 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION fiercely wields his mapole.
< 1386346770 707888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: resistance is fu^Wpotential divided by current < 1386346946 442226 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :today is independence day? finland has gone mad? halp < 1386347048 264297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's that time of the year again when they eat mämmi and shoot down aliens < 1386347070 855337 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1386347110 492112 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah but they are calmed down now apparently < 1386347245 804731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the lack of evidence is because obama covered it up duh < 1386347484 649958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/unicode < 1386347486 176356 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ # -*- encoding: utf-8 -*- \ import sys \ import unicodedata \ try: \ print u''.join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode('utf-8') \ except KeyError: \ print u'Unknown character.' < 1386347556 153663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'LATIN SMALL LETTER H' 'LATIN SMALL LETTER M' < 1386347557 863779 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1386347593 95143 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 粿條 < 1386347594 981736 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+7CBF CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-7CBF] [U+689D CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-689D] < 1386347618 7192 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. not even nciku can define 粿. < 1386347713 173435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate says "Cake" hth < 1386347921 131102 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“cooked rice for making cake”. not quite not quite related to what 粿條 means (kuy teav, or hủ tiếu), which is a kind of soup. < 1386348040 5244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Char_kway_teow#Etymology < 1386348077 883025 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. t. tdh. < 1386348091 624468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw. < 1386348325 466141 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386348449 765752 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`xyzzy < 1386348451 1961 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: xyzzy: not found < 1386348482 457917 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? xyzzy < 1386348484 311979 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing happens. < 1386348677 550694 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'A hollow voice says "Plugh"' >wisdom/plugh < 1386348681 244056 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386348818 914829 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1386348833 898633 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386348854 865960 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1386348871 443237 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: are you magic? < 1386348872 220465 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​are you? are < 1386348881 621439 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am magic. I am also sane. < 1386348892 55654 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1386348898 220515 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What instructions/features should a CPU have to support certain more or less often used algorithms? < 1386348913 770473 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like reversing bits for fast fourier transforms < 1386348936 483339 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on what you want it to do I guess? < 1386348961 678546 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... but you know... < 1386348979 283072 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: are you sane? < 1386348980 64745 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. What do you think, fungot? < 1386348982 677568 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are instructions which are *important* for certain algorithms to work or make the efficient < 1386348989 737185 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is ruddy sane? < 1386348990 170905 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: hi fnord :) and then this one from a dostoyevsky novel. do you have an example of something that's infinite. :p though i guess they have an annoying registering system here, if that code would suddenly produce " 21" monitor < 1386348990 574697 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​are you FireFly FireFly < 1386348996 33470 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like having cmpxchg supporting quadwords on 32bit machines < 1386349008 503910 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which allows tagged pointers which are required for certain lock free algorithms < 1386349034 123240 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yes but which algorithms do you want! < 1386349047 675272 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, some are pretty commonly used functions I guess < 1386349051 322397 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitwise operations < 1386349054 537947 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basic arithmetic < 1386349058 560387 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moving values to memory < 1386349061 664036 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A stack < 1386349063 668690 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jumps < 1386349064 428204 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1386349066 434184 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: or just cmpxchg in first place which you need to implement smp locks < 1386349075 920878 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1386349078 650428 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1386349098 566424 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you need cmpxchg for lock-free atomic values, not locks < 1386349114 542386 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :test and set should be enough for locks I guess < 1386349309 17811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1386349403 89726 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the..? ruddy, why did you ping out? < 1386349404 420012 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​dummy provides: eval choose dummy < 1386349532 811894 :Taneb!~Taneb@pc559s.cs.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1386349588 407041 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1386349855 606006 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.102.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov cx,0 / xchg cx, word[LOCK] / jcxz LOCKED is sufficient, where 0 = locked, non-zero = unlocked < 1386350035 897250 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy! < 1386350036 133751 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​quintopia! quintopia! < 1386350044 548739 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy! ruddy! < 1386350045 146842 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. What do you think, fungot? < 1386350118 788205 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: not sure if having ruddy say that is worth much if its in the ignore list :P < 1386350123 704544 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​probably < 1386350159 939094 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: it could be better, yeah < 1386350562 625347 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look, even ruddy itself agrees < 1386350563 123638 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. What do you think, fungot? < 1386350576 829686 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think it's better if it stays silent < 1386350580 430946 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: silence! < 1386350580 671417 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No clue what you mean. What do you think, fungot? < 1386350650 327822 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1386350660 299219 :Taneb!~Taneb@pc559s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy, do you read Homestuck? < 1386350661 253847 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@list read didn't read your 11:42 < 1386350677 36552 :Taneb!~Taneb@pc559s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do YOU read Homestuck? < 1386350677 324196 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: thread-sleep! by way of optimization, but it's something weird < 1386350691 816608 :Taneb!~Taneb@pc559s.cs.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Homestuck is pretty much always doing something weird < 1386350693 359473 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's a fungot 'yes' < 1386350693 559576 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: will someone please echo the character at fnord to start nyx?? if so, what are they trying to say < 1386350712 652041 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how should I know what they're trying to say?! < 1386350713 3059 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: whatcha writing? c in bf? if so, i might add. now i'm sweating like a mule in sunny and humid florida. < 1386350725 570804 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :TMI < 1386350775 372036 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386350947 386130 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: here's a better idea. make it so ruddy always has something to say. < 1386350950 653048 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ipv6 is < 1386350957 204288 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: IPv6 is what? < 1386350957 848019 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. What do you think, fungot? < 1386350978 998992 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ruddy is a big hack, though. I probably won't do any more work on it. < 1386350982 615446 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​big < 1386350988 799918 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might make a replacement, though. < 1386351004 855638 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: yes. write a new one. < 1386351055 104960 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: you hear that? they want to delete you. < 1386351056 760854 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​we believe < 1386351098 8568 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1386351137 33513 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: are you saying that you're in favor of that? < 1386351139 664718 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​was i saying < 1386351147 715356 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: you're whimsical. < 1386351148 36240 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​you're crack. < 1386351154 77721 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: gee, thank you < 1386351154 673045 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. What do you think, fungot? < 1386351175 770023 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think it'd at least say "hth" there < 1386351186 737071 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: where? < 1386351200 15262 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: when someone says thank you < 1386351218 122912 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. ruddy: thank you. < 1386351218 494124 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. What do you think, fungot? < 1386351252 686289 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently we don't thank people enough for it to have a suitable response? It's also possible that it managed to skip all of the words while building a message. < 1386351267 759246 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: hth < 1386351267 996787 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​hth < 1386351476 423223 :Taneb!~Taneb@pc559s.cs.york.ac.uk QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1386352080 912144 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks ruddy < 1386352081 241084 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`thanks FireFly < 1386352082 337944 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, ruddy. Thuddy. < 1386352082 601586 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. What do you think, fungot? < 1386352108 202350 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thuddy, ruddy < 1386352108 542985 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​FireFly < 1386352170 943944 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386352278 894252 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qjpmniieiljzsils QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386352420 414232 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy, I hope your sass survives in your next iteration. < 1386352422 104857 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. What do you think, fungot? < 1386352432 364193 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's gonna go, though. < 1386352500 511215 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: it would have been fine if it didn't fail to come up with anything so damn often < 1386352518 41637 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386352593 946350 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's mostly due to how it munges messages, which is just by throwing away random parts from several messages and then combining them < 1386352607 244647 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it just happens to throw everything out.. I'll fix that for the next one < 1386352611 875066 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1386352716 403174 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: my similar bot goes with the most unique word in the line that it could actually build a reply out of < 1386352842 277381 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ruddy works in a similar way. It gets a list of the most similar messages in its history, giving more weight to uncommon words and shorter messages < 1386352850 37443 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. What do you think, fungot? < 1386352863 785489 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright, ruddy, that's annoying. I'm fixing you. < 1386352864 465506 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. What do you think, fungot? < 1386352870 820543 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386352979 803705 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386352985 182406 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386352995 183483 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1386353284 715230 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: are you done being annoying? < 1386353285 730483 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​consider and boing.. you're done < 1386353384 133154 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate it when professors think I misunderstood something and therefore don't bother to answer my actual question < 1386353692 206343 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uauifryqeazkoygw JOIN :#esoteric < 1386353700 39835 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`Hi < 1386353701 295710 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: Hi: not found < 1386353704 150098 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1386353711 592399 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello < 1386353712 850911 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1386353907 259725 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1386353909 133281 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: did you make it start over and try again when it fails to make a message? (with a timeout of course) < 1386353945 768075 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: make messages, not war < 1386353946 743435 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​one of those lend-lease because replies are based off of the order of messages, and i'm < 1386353965 387877 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: without a timeout, but yes. < 1386354015 779638 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: what if it always fails because not enough data? infinite loop! < 1386354161 786356 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: hutenosa < 1386354162 146349 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No clue what you mean. What do you think, fungot? < 1386354168 619579 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ^ < 1386354185 605729 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to have data before it starts munging. I put the loop in the munging logic < 1386354207 334377 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: hu te no sa < 1386354207 832654 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​no < 1386354215 419747 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: okay.. :( < 1386354215 882817 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:( < 1386354220 330431 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: oh. cool. < 1386354230 920334 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: ruddy ruddy ruddy ruddy ruddy < 1386354231 498356 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​quintopia quintopia < 1386354949 706717 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1386355314 752378 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386355550 771257 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1386355621 166232 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any stack-syntax esolangs that operate on a stack of values (primitives or other stacks) and allow word definition? < 1386355953 405947 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: Forth? http://esolangs.org/wiki/Forth < 1386356049 325075 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I don't know that I'd consider Forth an esolang < 1386356201 488002 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it has an esolang article < 1386356236 361663 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :As does Perl, which I guess supports the theory that it's an esolang < 1386356249 426458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about C++ < 1386356258 84744 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how do you measure a languages esotlanguishness? < 1386356258 409368 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: in sicp, like the multi-core systems that are capable of making a language about kitty pidgin. weirder things have happened < 1386356279 417409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you're telling me that weirder things than kitty pidgins happened? < 1386356279 619286 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ( impossible? oh well... bye, and thanks < 1386356284 890409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you tease. < 1386356285 176900 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i forgot the little lojban i know :( just asked for some " research". :p probably sells well. < 1386356304 495117 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is "research" a euphemism for something? < 1386356304 821676 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: try ' cat /etc/ passwd" read)), a+4n b+3n c+2n d+n e < 1386356375 557698 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :bot euphemisms are weird < 1386356420 435984 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: surprisingly, no < 1386356895 858381 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION fantasizes on finding a non-transitive loop in the wiki, where language A is more esoteric than B, which is more esoteric than C, and the latter being esotericer than A...
< 1386357203 764655 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb the KJV/Markov mashup was mainstreamed by Boingboing → http://boingboing.net/2013/12/06/king-james-programming-markov.html < 1386357203 962716 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386357414 602296 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: re: stack-syntax esolangs etc.: golfscript < 1386357461 483941 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is basically a forth clone with a bunch of handy FP-esque built-ins. like % is map and * is fold < 1386357507 454162 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't have word defining, which I think mrhmouse asked for < 1386357515 556204 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(afaik..) < 1386357610 214573 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has word defining to the point where you can redefine the value of 0 < 1386357688 892319 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: yes. there is. but unfortunately, there is not one called "Stacks on Stacks on Stacks" but there should be < 1386357744 210258 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that operate on a stack stack stack, akin to befunge's stack stack? < 1386357784 644801 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I BET IT WOULD HAVE A STACK STACK STACK STACK STACK STACK STACK STACK STACK ... < 1386357803 600489 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Stack functor fixed point? < 1386357814 541068 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure that thing < 1386357826 151601 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION grasps the air as his sanity flutters away “noooo! come back, precious sanity!”
< 1386358125 13463 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannibalism http://i.imgur.com/9t19cZN.jpg < 1386358150 770440 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kiwis are the weirdest birds < 1386358832 225539 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386359160 821452 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/210622/walmart-is-selling-prints-of-banksys-destroy-capitalism/ < 1386359220 985827 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :magnificent. < 1386359299 726714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Graffiti artist Eddie Colla’s print, with the very ironic words “If you want to achieve greatness stop asking for permission,” is on the site and labeled as a Banksy piece, as is Thierry Guetta’s 2008 “Life is Beautiful” piece." < 1386359303 577310 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1386359307 420242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who here has seen _Exit Through the Gift Shop_ < 1386359553 903536 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386359646 620562 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello ^v < 1386359648 802434 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^vello < 1386359675 819774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:54 yeah, I like to write in the common subset of haskell, c, perl, python, ruby, and tcl < 1386359678 800448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:54 other people like to write in the common subset of c and c++ < 1386359681 286160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:54 they're weird < 1386359716 260293 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ReLcOmE ^v < 1386359719 222782 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08^v: 09WeLcOmE 02To 06tHe 13iNtErNaTiOnAl 04hUb 07fOr 08eSoTeRiC 09PrOgRaMmInG 02LaNgUaGe 06dEsIgN 13AnD 04DePlOyMeNt! 07FoR 08MoRe 09iNfOrMaTiOn, 02ChEcK 06OuT 13OuR 04WiKi: 07. 08(fOr 09tHe 02oThEr 06kInD 13Of 04eSoTeRiCa, 07TrY 08#eSoTeRiC 09On 02iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1386359865 998710 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1386360811 973459 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1386360827 312655 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386361545 473661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Email didn't work either? < 1386361686 704059 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Didn’t get around to emailing him yet. I thought i’d try on #ghc since he’s there and what i was going to talk to him about was GHC-related. < 1386362087 522409 :dimasona!~dimasona@91.210.103.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386362241 414914 :dimasona!~dimasona@91.210.103.37 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386362277 116934 :Zuu_!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386362315 108524 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386362322 477081 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386362540 108925 :Zuu_!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386362592 173101 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1386362695 47311 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@sweetiebot.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1386362754 193090 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@sweetiebot.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1386362875 804856 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1386362891 410075 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode FEMALE REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM DRAWN BY SENILE OLD SEX ED TEACHER < 1386362893 44214 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown character. < 1386362942 643590 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION chokes on his tea
< 1386362950 542317 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what the. < 1386363032 56626 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: congratulations, people are now staring at me because I'm snickering for no observable reason. < 1386363099 599399 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: that's me when reading fungot responses < 1386363099 836719 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: but it's all explained in the thread, only some days on random, so i would assume it works. i'm removing a feature no one knows even exists. would you like an extended abi < 1386363111 392719 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sometimes, anyway) < 1386363121 218368 :kgomziakov!~kgomziako@91.210.103.187 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386363124 895387 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what feature are you removing? < 1386363125 297237 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: i've gone through all the quotes. there are a few intermediate level papers on readscheme... did anyone ever build one of those ruby guys, wrote a slight variant of, which is really much simpler just to never leave the repl" but that isn't much < 1386363177 375346 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yeah, sometimes there's too much babble to be funny. That was why I /joined ruddy - to be slightly less random < 1386363177 962011 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: don't touch my PDF, you nefarious quote reader you. < 1386363178 160348 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: called lisp? heh. but you're talking about the meaning of < 1386363182 25670 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​funny. egbert9e9, (mrhmouse is another random internet page < 1386363213 263239 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode FUNGOT EXPLAINING EXTENSIBLE SCHEME PARSING TO SOMEBODY EATING POULET < 1386363214 810563 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown character. < 1386363229 587517 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's responses have a tendency to sometimes be hilariously inappropriate though, which ruddy's doesn't :( < 1386363229 789371 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: where is your source?" lolcode is popular because vb is hard to write < 1386363232 790120 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​that's me when reading FireFly responses < 1386363235 955563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you like monoids < 1386363236 161961 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hang on nerd joke? are there no scheme irc libs or whatnot < 1386363241 642265 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: oh you! < 1386363242 201475 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​oh, thank you! < 1386363250 913715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: do you like monoids? < 1386363251 878927 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​do you like bugs? < 1386363255 788444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg < 1386363260 800696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: do you like nerd jokes? < 1386363261 692846 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​hang on nerd joke? are there no scheme irc libs or whatnot 871) i don't even know anything about feather < 1386363264 221376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like bugs / i like bugs / i like bugs / i like bugs < 1386363268 907215 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: fungot saw through your question < 1386363269 109068 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: then i fnord at my expense of being practical!" things? < 1386363272 629958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1nsOKBgmOs < 1386363303 923135 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: at least give it a while before quoting other bots.. < 1386363306 274263 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​at least < 1386363326 567705 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: at least fifteen minutes, please. < 1386363327 87173 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​please. i pride myself on my low algorithmic randomness i've been here for fifteen seconds. don't be an ass. < 1386363332 954233 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, that was a bike quote, not a kmc quote! i demand restitution < 1386363349 634201 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: that doesn't look random at all < 1386363350 852874 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​especially the random i assumed it was some < 1386363351 255248 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you've been plagiarized < 1386363358 510230 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy you monster < 1386363359 303432 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​you're only a < 1386363365 607796 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :>: < 1386363373 79329 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: a what? he's only a what? < 1386363374 176832 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​what? < 1386363383 619380 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: you're boring < 1386363384 154100 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​a boring fungus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cliona_viridis < 1386363441 588940 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: that's a sponge < 1386363442 619389 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​that's numberwang! that's irrelevant < 1386363462 932317 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are all of the bots here so terrible at taxonomy ;_; < 1386363464 268470 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bots. they are very sentient. < 1386363486 891656 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: because we're the ones teaching them, I suppose < 1386363490 188913 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they are demonstrating solidarity and brotherhood towards each other. < 1386363566 940057 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: funges ought to be your territory < 1386363567 178327 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: in lowercase i assume for unixy :p. but the windows world that does cr/ lf" char? < 1386363618 331631 :kgomziakov!~kgomziako@91.210.103.187 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386363764 975082 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laetiporus_sulphureus < 1386363765 324562 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: kotisivu.mtv3.fi/ quux if they don't mention the drivers or linux support or such? < 1386363772 484213 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1386363777 443421 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello Vorpal < 1386363779 310067 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vellorpal < 1386363801 72980 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1386363817 941386 :mrhmouse1!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386363819 599898 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpallo < 1386363845 73510 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1386364017 941281 :mrhmouse1!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was odd.. power cycled. < 1386364022 614712 :mrhmouse1!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com NICK :mrhmouse < 1386364077 339372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: rust is losing the generic "do" sugar < 1386364084 157592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1386364196 204065 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: link to the announcement? < 1386364294 404554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have a link offhand < 1386364298 887321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may have already happened, even < 1386364353 662168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the issue is that there are multiple kinds of closures, e.g. stack closures and uniquely-owned heap closures < 1386364395 587046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we used to infer from a lambda which kind it is, but no longer (for some reason) < 1386364414 767117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "do" (which is a form of lambda) will only create the uniquely-owned heap closures < 1386364440 358765 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also those can be called once only, which means the body is allowed to move out of captured variables < 1386364555 856413 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rust: the language with out-of-body closure experience! < 1386364847 851064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: which sugar was that again < 1386364901 410191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do f(x,y) |z| { ... } ⇒ f(x, y, |z| { ... }) < 1386364908 78426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where |z| { ... } is a lambda < 1386364932 534496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if there are no arguments to f or no parameters in the lambda then "do" lets you leave off the list entirely < 1386364937 537286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. do spawn { ... thread body ... } < 1386364949 665549 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⇒ spawn(|| { ... thread body ...}) < 1386364980 452505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that < 1386364983 411610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. rubyy < 1386365080 62196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rubby < 1386365087 944175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i suppose it is < 1386365105 262866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but w/o the thing where 'return' in the body causes the enclosing function to return < 1386365110 14751 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(instead it's just not allowed :/) < 1386365150 191998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there used to be a related sugar 'for' which would let you use 'break' and 'continue' and these things would make the closure return true or false < 1386365185 56887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that a for-each function could implement the desired loop control < 1386365188 422762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that all got scrapped months ago < 1386365210 656385 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now 'for' is a sugar for calling .next() repeatedly on an iterator object like any boring old language < 1386365250 386437 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t for < 1386365251 212142 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `for' < 1386365251 407123 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1386365251 407281 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `T.for' (imported from Data.Traversable), < 1386365255 202511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t forM < 1386365255 984541 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => [a] -> (a -> m b) -> m [b] < 1386365330 297089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t T.for < 1386365331 23877 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Applicative f, Traversable t) => t a -> (a -> f b) -> f (t b) < 1386365360 359547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ruby has two different kinds of lambda thingies, with two different behaviors for return < 1386365367 273361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda { ... } and proc { ... } < 1386365385 832577 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should make a ruby thing that uses continuations to implement the "return" < 1386365392 573482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that it works even when you return the proc/lambda < 1386365422 760526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: weren't they going to change it to return Just x/Nothing instead of True/False < 1386365500 179519 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Ceci n'est pas un poulet. < 1386365501 945441 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386365718 671670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1386365749 304200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i was unclear but you know what i mean < 1386366384 892804 :evalj!~jeval@54000CCD.dsl.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386366776 16562 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1386366866 183631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Hey, that's mooz's befunge site, I think that link is dead. < 1386366866 473044 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this is unix without a nice gui would use native widgets. but i have done < 1386366896 251819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is unix without a nice gui < 1386366897 783119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know this < 1386366934 524381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what's the best thing < 1386366934 746417 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: for call/ cc call/ cc, and has been commented on extensively elsewhere... yes.... one is the lhs the other one < 1386366980 279560 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :call/cc call/cc: the best thing. < 1386366998 161748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :((call/cc call/cc) (call/cc call/cc)) < 1386367003 127669 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also we had some of that "my balls" thing, I'm not entirely sober.) < 1386367004 334090 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cc call/) < 1386367019 951269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cc: call/@call.cc < 1386367027 581865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you sober < 1386367028 41743 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: kaxul reads in xml, e.g. for port operations. linear-update operations may be destructive, but you can play with car and cdr < 1386367036 549722 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot you are drunk < 1386367036 738624 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think that < 1386367041 367181 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww http://call.cc/ < 1386367044 115543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i think that too < 1386367044 306470 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: and i wouldn't say that. you prefer for/ let keywords and just put the function variable at the front < 1386367056 192496 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: It "may" be for sale. < 1386367081 736213 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, by the extortionists < 1386367161 776886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Welcome To The Domain CALL.CC This domain is under construction. Please check back at a later date for updates, or to get more information about the domain, you may email the registrant using the link below." < 1386367167 65710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what was there in 2003/2004. < 1386367204 271861 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the vaguest notion that there actually was a Scheme site with that kind of address, but perhaps I'm just thinking of call-cc.org, the home of CHICKEN. < 1386368331 708272 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-172.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386368895 992096 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386368967 725545 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah I think I've started a new Haskell Compiler Project < 1386369008 496584 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the basis that we're at York < 1386369015 459738 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why? < 1386369019 205128 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's already been a York Haskell Compiler < 1386369027 342998 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're calling it the New York Haskell Compiler < 1386369033 812126 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch. < 1386369035 42070 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, fun and education, mainly < 1386369036 762103 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1386369061 167291 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next one will be yayhc? < 1386369076 538035 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION forks yhc and calls it Fork Haskell Compiler
< 1386369103 608342 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, you do not want to, the build system is a 10000 line python script for some bizarre reason < 1386369109 455033 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're starting from scratch < 1386369133 526399 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me it’s 10k lines of generated code. < 1386369188 620516 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1386369207 194746 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :d o e s t y p i n g q u a l i f y a s g e n e r a t i o n o f t e x t? < 1386369207 616941 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Development stopped when the one guy who was any good at Python left < 1386369242 801973 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? science < 1386369244 542247 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :science? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1386369279 302231 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb: ಠ < 1386369302 590483 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'Semi-automatic text generation.' > wisdom/science < 1386369306 91759 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386369315 762754 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386369502 49813 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yuck, sconscript. < 1386369515 922516 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell: “ Is anyone here really familiar with Pipes?” I wanted to say kmc. < 1386369516 975453 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I just remembered that I have seen that before.) < 1386369577 49205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rolls eyes
< 1386369588 364508 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, int-e in #esoteric < 1386369608 244927 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION blames lambdabot
< 1386369865 95211 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386369872 246825 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386370480 755784 :evalj!~jeval@54000CCD.dsl.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386370640 150779 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1386370899 93472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1386370977 26 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386371007 615486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is the "kmc drugz" thing getting old < 1386371046 303136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was old before you were born < 1386371084 384484 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386371451 528169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you were old before i was born :'( < 1386371473 657133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary < 1386371534 66159 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-172.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1386372308 133632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just a little < 1386372509 297845 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1386372591 656739 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how old is oerjan compared to shachaf? or how young is shachaf? < 1386372595 59609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :attending a talk on compiler-based software diversification, i.e. generating a different binary for every user so that it's hard to write an exploit which works for all of them < 1386372603 450059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you understand this one yet? < 1386372621 886094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's like how some jits randomly insert nops and so on? < 1386372625 620211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a cool idea < 1386372628 149278 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: interesting < 1386372630 973584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a p. #esoteric idea < 1386372635 123446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't know about that < 1386372673 29585 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, an esolang that ends up slightly different for every user, that's something < 1386372700 203607 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think randomly inserting NOPs might slow it down or make too large file, but rearranging basic blocks might be OK in some circumstances, and rearranging global variables, functions, and so on, can also work. < 1386372712 105043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: e.g. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=595034 < 1386372719 537692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't find a good reference but i read about it somewhere < 1386372741 227100 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386372746 674336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make the "jit spraying" thing more difficult < 1386372748 131844 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386372753 614922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1386372799 68003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, because a NOP will re-synchronize the instruction framing < 1386372806 908046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or enough NOPs will < 1386372914 384508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that link discussion mentioned the impact being negligible for nops about every 64 bytes < 1386372948 951531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which gives you, what, about 32 bytes worth of exploit code < 1386372954 54767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :w/ small instructions only < 1386372959 412416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still might be enuf though < 1386372967 547709 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1386372967 795759 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight said 5h 12m 17s ago: I think I am turning into you. I feel like I'm going to write a web browser... somebody stop me! o_o < 1386372969 829874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677272 < 1386372980 941070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not finding other links < 1386373006 283392 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, NaCl does something similar for a different reason < 1386373012 960825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no instruction can span a 32-byte boundary < 1386373027 586112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds more predictable < 1386373046 222598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and indirect jumps/calls must be preceded by a masking instruction which aligns to a 32-byte boundary < 1386373085 658797 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think that helps (or intends to help) against using NaCl to infiltrate a payload which you enter using a separate control flow hijack vuln < 1386373138 273876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1386373145 912959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this seems similar to the thing your talk is about < 1386373170 607584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1386373261 672940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if people will eventually focus more and more on exploits which don't redirect control flow at all < 1386373264 586465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw a paper about those < 1386373265 775237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe from you < 1386373315 873324 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be nice to just disable all exploits < 1386373369 220377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which paper < 1386373558 907044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one i think: http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/73104/usenix05data_attack.pdf < 1386373599 166345 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386373657 716684 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1386373857 298818 :Halite!561ef8e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.30.248.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386373859 318631 :Halite!561ef8e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.30.248.233 QUIT :Changing host < 1386373859 513004 :Halite!561ef8e9@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1386373859 513138 :Halite!561ef8e9@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Changing host < 1386373859 513221 :Halite!561ef8e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.30.248.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386373877 212300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I uploaded it to imgur. http://imgur.com/gallery/Zp71DUL <-- good work with the -8 points, also i think that meme which i've noticed at least once before is already old. < 1386373890 514520 :Halite!561ef8e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.30.248.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea for a new programming language [seriously this time]. < 1386373929 784525 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than that fake hilton tweet, i guess < 1386373931 683221 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Breaking news: meme seen to exist more than once < 1386373932 726833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is about how to program with irc join/quits < 1386373936 902229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is it < 1386373953 696411 :Halite!561ef8e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.30.248.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A script could be a finite state machine < 1386373965 591977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: some memes feel old the second time you see them, i think this may be one. < 1386373965 793654 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-172.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386373999 405487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's just me who is old. < 1386374014 818700 :Halite!561ef8e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.30.248.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you're too yougn < 1386374017 115010 :Halite!561ef8e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.30.248.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :young* < 1386374042 764031 :Halite!561ef8e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.30.248.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :youth think 50 is an old age. Elderly think 100 is an old age. < 1386374043 10717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Halite: then you all are. < 1386374073 615628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the person giving the talk is http://www.michaelfranz.com/ < 1386374112 440060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: another cool idea is, you do profile-directed optimization and you do less randomization of code within hot loops < 1386374155 555112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess this is unlike the jit thing in that the attacker doesn't supply the code < 1386374159 952885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : A script could be a finite state machine <-- that's also rather hard to call new. < 1386374175 108719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea being that ROP exploits need gadgets from all over the code, so you can disrupt them by only messing with cold paths < 1386374232 793748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :add a tape, and you have a turing machine, one of the oldest computation models there are < 1386374311 353420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: imo rust should do this inside unsafe { ... } blocks < 1386374403 499072 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, I think you sent me a message earlier... I may have intended to answer < 1386374441 388126 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was not important? < 1386374455 220857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what if you want rust not to do it < 1386374464 484083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo doubleplusunsafe { ... } < 1386374526 437988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs oerjan> @.* olsner < 1386374561 976610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :danger(10000) { ... } < 1386374574 32613 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.32727 < 1386374603 720456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do badness(10000) { ... } < 1386374653 160555 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah! then I would guess "yes" < 1386374660 68019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pwned boxes < 1386374686 957067 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I'm not sure how much asbestos contamination does to fireproof a spider < 1386374702 516325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: we are all doomed hth < 1386374856 49856 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hopefully only wales is doomed hth < 1386374891 805963 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm well as long as they cannot swim < 1386374914 895208 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure wales can swim < 1386375029 806287 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to argue with a pun based on a misspelling. < 1386375359 93721 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if they wash up on the beach they're property of the queen < 1386375396 535630 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386375403 781734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Sgeo < 1386375607 311003 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386375671 99175 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1386375685 953716 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1386375686 353725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so that's how england got wales in the first place? < 1386375700 862261 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386375705 863506 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1386375722 993967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1386375735 349926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx it all makes sense now < 1386376584 31416 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-172.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386376978 351428 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1386376981 118889 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386377728 124474 :Zuu_!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386377802 767665 :Zuu_!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386377874 243650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: hutenosa < 1386377874 634708 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​hutenosa < 1386377912 29044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ruddy < 1386377912 320742 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​hi hi < 1386377918 834330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: are you enjoying finnish independence day < 1386377919 613857 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​because i'm `thanks independence day also it's independence day < 1386377926 137311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: have you declared yourself independent from finland < 1386377927 253988 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​i think that is true independent of number of cells < 1386377935 9659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: escargot < 1386377935 393861 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No clue what you mean. What do you think, fungot? < 1386377942 122946 :Zuu_!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386378079 814134 :drlemon!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386378170 995900 :drlemon!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386378389 337447 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.79.10.191 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1386378427 911726 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks independence day also it's independence day < 1386378429 209542 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, independence day also it's independence day. Thindependence day also it's independence day. < 1386378993 278097 :Halite!561ef8e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.30.248.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1386379186 65412 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is there no dramatic reading of the call of cthulhu for beginning readers on the internet < 1386379279 33128 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1386379316 450962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: they keep mysteriously disappearing together with the readers < 1386379362 614153 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but I can find the *regular* version fine < 1386379366 444096 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want the seussized one < 1386379451 398513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: just read through the iwc christmas comics hth http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/archive.html < 1386379486 259005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Dec 24th) < 1386379518 759034 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :One cthulhu, two cthulhu, red cthulhu, blue cthulhu. < 1386379572 228938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason must be that dramatic readers who like to post stuff on internet don't like that book or do not know how to read it for some reason. Either that or they are hiding it. < 1386379624 170756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy independence day, nooodl < 1386379648 377729 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sinterklaas "basically that" < 1386379677 707058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sinterklaas = basically cthulhu < 1386380042 470537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? science < 1386380044 480705 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semi-automatic text generation. < 1386380055 31136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on, that doesn't even backronym. < 1386380071 909529 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I notice that too. < 1386380105 852331 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zzo38 < 1386380107 756136 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is not actually the next version of fungot, much as it may seem. < 1386380111 86149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fungot < 1386380112 903602 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot cannot be stopped by that sword alone. < 1386380116 678442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ruddy < 1386380117 137745 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? shachaf `? shachaf < 1386380118 290790 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1386380118 779349 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​HackEgo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1386380125 971275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ruddy < 1386380126 541920 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​hi hi < 1386380133 197861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: you show that bot! < 1386380134 511858 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​eille! no violence against my peaceful bot! < 1386380140 466535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy hi ruddy < 1386380141 76653 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​hi hi < 1386380146 966648 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :loop, ruddy, loop < 1386380147 511005 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​and in < 1386380147 845522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: today is the day i am going to sleep < 1386380151 175577 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​got to < 1386380159 966405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: you gotta do what you gotta do < 1386380161 114517 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​gotta get < 1386380214 501516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "HackEgo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯" >wisdom/ruddy < 1386380215 550726 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`run echo < 1386380218 176833 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386380357 177538 :Zuu_!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386380485 410145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* int-e blames lambdabot <-- ok how did lambdabot get you here < 1386380526 97242 :Zuu_!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386380605 594214 :Zuu_!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386380618 96173 :Zuu_!nobody@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386380658 700740 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I looked at the list of channels that it joins automatically < 1386380679 290446 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1386380689 953948 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386380691 454266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish! < 1386380715 502417 :Zuu_!nobody@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386380768 111611 :Zuu_!uzzuuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386380896 231908 :Zuu_!uzzuuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386380916 99442 :Zuu_!uzzuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386380942 388376 :Zuu_!uzzuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386380967 95516 :Zuu_!nobody@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386381008 11186 :Zuu_!nobody@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386381026 108334 :Zuu_!nobody@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386381083 306310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu_: fix your connection thx < 1386381110 41452 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1386381198 160399 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tis fine, i was just configuring something :/ < 1386381209 405729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1386381227 756035 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some canonical algorithm for assigning binary codes to each node of a state diagram < 1386381256 534158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's called "counting" hth < 1386381291 689435 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, that minimizes the logic < 1386381328 717774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1386381357 205745 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in a circuit implementing the state diagram. < 1386381370 944525 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :minimizing hamming distance between connected nodes for instance < 1386381374 714319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an algorithm for minimizing the number of states iirc < 1386381382 424864 :Zuu_!nobody@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386381384 397574 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not what i mean < 1386381426 850453 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386381445 926477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds messy anyway. < 1386381473 589772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough that i expect the answer is "no" < 1386381510 190927 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there are multiple constraints you could optimize for, like size of the state < 1386381541 102417 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386381541 894387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it sounds like something NP-complete or worse. < 1386381569 126412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so whatever algorithm you find won't be "canonical". < 1386381583 765307 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :size of state is easy, but I expect that often you'll want to use more bits than are strictly required, to encode some features of states. < 1386381587 42069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it happens to be for surprising reasons. < 1386381598 254270 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :--> it's a hard problem. < 1386381853 299846 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386381853 526423 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wondering this because my homework gave constraining hamming distance to one as a rule of thumb but also said it was usually impossible < 1386381856 475529 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :~engineering~ i guess < 1386381856 706623 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a nice example of such features comes up when your automaton is the result of a powerset construction; it may be better to implement the nondeterministic automaton and use one bit per original state) < 1386381879 738224 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a powerset construction. < 1386381903 565573 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerset_construction < 1386382793 622311 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386382913 608003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a 6502 code, if I have the accumulator being zero, what is an efficient way to make the zero flag cleared if some value in the zero-page is zero, and set if it is nonzero? < 1386383164 856410 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what instructions alter the zero flag again < 1386383241 78475 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loads, transfers, arithmetic. < 1386383307 820256 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADC, AND, ASL, BIT, CMP, CPX, CPY, DEC, DEX, DEY, EOR, INC, INX, INY, LDA, LDX, LDY, LSR, ORA, PLP, ROL, ROR, SBC, TAX, TAY, TSX, TXA, TXS, TYA. < 1386383340 708639 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :loads huh < 1386383370 590204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously LDA whatever gives the opposite flag setting of what you want < 1386383387 475954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes I can see that < 1386383436 926418 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, no xor < 1386383442 278123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: EOR < 1386383469 262815 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :has everyone used the 6502... < 1386383484 21784 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i have no idea. < 1386383512 222718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :way back. although the manual for the assembly was missing instructions... < 1386383530 66205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what's PLP < 1386383537 953845 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if just pushing the flags onto the stack and then testing the zero flag with BIT or AND, would be best way. < 1386383545 31588 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The opposite of PHP. < 1386383547 567785 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(HTH) < 1386383551 338018 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: PLP is pop flags from stack < 1386383552 678256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: THX < 1386383566 921765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right < 1386383724 739436 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey zzo38, i'm planning on making some CPUs with my FPGA. do you have any fun ISAs to recommend < 1386383754 587092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: imo make mmix < 1386383768 486327 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that would make sense < 1386383792 129930 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i don't remember anything about it other than that it drops the crazy decimal stuff and has a zillion registers. < 1386383945 16555 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386383984 681045 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes, MMIX is one possibility; GCC supports it, even. < 1386384014 740910 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not actually sure how i should go about getting code onto the thing, there's no serial port. guess i'll have to get another cable and figure out uart < 1386384072 563291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also try 6502 if you want to program it in assembly language (and if it is the variant used in the Famicom, then there is no decimal arithmetic either) < 1386384127 647521 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :any more esoteric ideas? < 1386384143 208900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo make your own isa < 1386384148 920600 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1386384149 576079 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of trying imlementing the processor from 'lambda the ultimate opcode'. no alu < 1386384152 957076 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :himc < 1386384937 771384 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there was an asynchronous RISC called "AMULET", i'm thinking of finding some specs < 1386384949 322830 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1386387009 178345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : I guess to formalize a statement like "C is Turing complete" you would talk about a family of languages C_i where sizeof(void *) = i, and require that the languages have a uniform description < 1386387013 227652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I think that doesn't work < 1386387039 142703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because any given TM (that you would try to implement in C_i for some i) can take arbitrarily large inputs and use arbitrarily much tape, even a vastly more than superexponential function of the input length < 1386387086 633033 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :intptr_t rather puts a damper on things, eh < 1386387119 937091 :tertu3!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386387130 461799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if a "char" cell can contain an arbitrary integer, and it is C89 rather than C99? < 1386387148 98534 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you have a C where malloc never fails and just keeps giving you new pointers < 1386387210 229578 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what's the relevant difference between C89 and C99? < 1386387254 366281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think C99 defines a lot of stuff that tells you how many bits everything is, isn't it? < 1386387285 43641 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :c89 doesn't have char_bit? < 1386387326 852220 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1386388587 953532 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1386388595 404876 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386389373 144865 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386389383 295102 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386389690 107325 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386389753 245494 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386390453 540074 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386391562 801854 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an editor for 6502 assembly language files (even if the file includes macros and other stuff) that will also display the generated hex codes and the bytes and cycles of each line, and the bytes and cycles of any highlighted block, and the addresses, etc? < 1386391796 288042 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386391813 461863 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386392333 14629 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.176.138.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386392511 465159 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1386392927 364261 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://slashdot.org/story/13/11/06/1323223/mozilla-backtracks-on-third-party-cookie-blocking < 1386392934 781182 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Said as though third-party cookies are evil < 1386392936 819771 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1386392957 467848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they are? < 1386392962 720251 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can be < 1386393073 463022 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i would be happier if i hung out in a channel where when people said stuff like that they were talking about politics or such < 1386393099 763355 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have legitimate use cases for third-party cookies :/ < 1386393111 534202 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(non-advertising uses, I mean) < 1386393121 858146 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :14i have legitimate use cases for mah diiiiick < 1386393319 479665 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kingjamesprogramming.tumblr.com/ < 1386393439 573885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1386394392 4841 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386394508 986645 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386396274 200506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ^5 < 1386396763 828272 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you see what Famicom Z-machine programming I have made up so far? http://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/User:Zzo38/Famicom_Z-machine < 1386396803 207483 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386396855 262220 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't know this notation. does it mean that you as well have legitimate use cases for mah dick < 1386396910 355435 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means "high five" < 1386396915 422729 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, kinda? < 1386396975 4713 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386396986 329647 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1386397027 231966 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386397054 526423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :diiiiickdiiiiickdiiiiickdiiiiickdiiiiickdiiiiickdiiiiickdiiiiickdiiiiickdiiiiickdiiiiickdiiiiickdiiiiickdiiiiickdiiiiickdiiiiick < 1386397058 992327 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386397098 821682 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why did you choose famicom as the machine you want to develop this for < 1386397144 365995 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice kmc < 1386397384 149779 :SingingBoyo!~kvirc@154.5.185.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386397389 777017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1386397420 621256 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It is one computer that doesn't have Z-machine interpreter on it, is one reason. < 1386397441 232468 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you think every computer should be able to interpret Z-machine? < 1386397540 149585 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 it looks like James Parsons has decided not to make a FLARP! language, you should delete the page. < 1386397540 338621 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386397614 677985 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It may be intended. Infocom didn't do it since Famicom is by Nintendo of Japanese, but now other people can make it too. Also, to practice to write such programs. < 1386397662 637416 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what other kinds of programs like that do you plan on writing in the future < 1386397730 901921 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I am not exactly sure by now. < 1386397746 742258 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you find any mistakes in this program or any other comment/questions? < 1386398159 153017 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have the assembler or the emulator or test programs. in short, i am a poor alpha tester. sorry. < 1386398201 426448 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't complete enough for testing the program; I mean if you noticed anything wrong with the program just by looking at it. < 1386398285 404075 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope! i < 1386398292 170180 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not smart enough to do that either < 1386398410 492061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know anything about Z-machine programming, Famicom programming, and/or 6502 programming? < 1386398428 128978 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOPE < 1386398447 937812 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've found yourself a very esoteric niche < 1386398468 219412 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wiki contains a lot of information about programming NES and Famicom. < 1386398491 442787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and other related systems, such as Vs.Unisystem) < 1386398661 998910 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing a bit unusual about this Z-machine interpreter is that several things are decided at compile-time; this may make the program more efficient in some ways. < 1386398988 756563 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The CPU chip used in that computer is the 2A03, which contains two cores which is the CPU core and APU core. The CPU core is a 6502 but with BCD arithmetic disabled (the logic is still there, it is just disconnected from the rest of the circuit). the APU core is used for audio (two square waves, one triangle wave, one noise, one DPCM) but also I/O ports and a DMA transfer. < 1386399011 364476 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is the apu controlled < 1386399038 714710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The APU is controlled by memory-mapped registers $4000-$4020. < 1386399183 825640 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The address of the DMA transfer is hard-coded and cannot be changed; you can change the source address to any 256-byte boundary, and when activated it reads the data from all 256 addresses in that page and writes the results all to a single address (not to 256 separate addresses). < 1386399509 971866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why disable BCD < 1386399527 596946 :tertu3!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net NICK :tertu < 1386399564 183616 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't most z-machine games expect a somewhat wider screen than the famicom has < 1386399665 461565 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tertu: Yes, but I do with what we have. (Also, this program is only version 1 to 3 Z-machine) < 1386399723 30139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Z-machine480.jpg < 1386399742 253784 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc wasn't the bcd part of the chip still on it, just with the wires cut so you couldn't access it < 1386399754 388333 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes, it is like that. < 1386399803 736194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why tho < 1386399851 763445 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386399889 553273 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to overscan, the visible area is only 30x26, but if no words are longer than 30 then it would fit. However you probably will need to scroll the screen a lot. < 1386400047 766395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, for simplicity, everything is displayed in uppercase (which is OK in version 1-3 only, as long as it can be distinguished internally in all cases that matter) < 1386400190 712686 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1386400257 862109 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Apparently due to patents on the 6502 CPU design. < 1386400296 30937 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386400404 152727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In addition, it doesn't implement the status line (there is a bit in the header to indicate this), and the SPLIT and SCREEN operations are not supported (there is also the bit in the header to indicate this too). < 1386400608 22678 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.176.138.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386401910 764410 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386401969 669026 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1386403288 955411 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386403430 415850 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pogozqnqbtwnqlci JOIN :#esoteric < 1386405343 94533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: heh < 1386410070 663989 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386411555 137787 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386411643 920316 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386413367 908656 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386413400 331660 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1386413400 523558 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1386414304 23133 :SingingBoyo!~kvirc@154.5.185.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1386414878 176095 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386416646 21177 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1386418307 805644 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, there's really no NES Z-machine interpreter? That is quite surprising. < 1386418846 996724 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386418903 906782 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1386419411 982940 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.138.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386419702 731732 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely there is < 1386419705 724604 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere < 1386420036 759364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386420189 400451 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric : x - y = < 1386420194 684200 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, oops < 1386422175 151085 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386422442 635964 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.138.249 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1386422463 884866 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.138.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386424976 256798 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1386425125 948556 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386425366 691222 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1386425405 309469 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386426264 160769 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1386427183 813769 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn35-003.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1386430963 22046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here have advice on how to read a line from a file without using stdio? < 1386431029 119014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I can think of a few ways, was wondering what the best way is < 1386431038 20580 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :byte-at-a-time is pretty slow, I'd hope to avoid that < 1386431115 117779 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386431129 625923 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it ok to read more than the first line? can you seek? < 1386431147 179407 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386431158 383086 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I can seek, and I can over-read < 1386431174 13314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I have an advisory read lock on the file and everything that touches the file respects advisory locks < 1386431181 344772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can guarantee it won't change while I'm reading < 1386431184 341893 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, how about mmap and strchr/memchr? < 1386431199 132628 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I hadn't thought of that at all < 1386431207 480929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, this should work on Windows too < 1386431218 319387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe there's some sort of compatibility layer somewhere translating lseek, read, etc < 1386431227 349048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it almost certainly doesn't translate mmap < 1386431252 303155 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 934 < 1386431256 21697 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 934: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1386431316 44826 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows certainly can mmap files, but it probably doesn't have a function called mmap < 1386431335 587122 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's not a case of "can Windows do that", but "can I do that without writing a bunch of Windows-specific code" < 1386431448 990709 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, why can't you just use stdio though? (not that stdio has a portable and safe getline function that I know of) < 1386431527 527740 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: because there's a huge amount of jumping around seeking and locking and unlocking and so on, stdio buffering would screw this up < 1386431681 713297 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just read into a growing buffer and stop when strchr('\n') isn't -1. < 1386431780 391792 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's what I was planning < 1386432024 434935 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, surely fgets on Windows has correct behavior? < 1386432043 119890 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, without using stdio. < 1386432044 438345 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hyuk. < 1386432051 666616 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, reimplementing stdio for no good reason. < 1386432076 460146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: yeah, pretty much < 1386432094 458681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, "reimplementing stdio because it doesn't like files unexpectedly shrinking while you're writing to them" < 1386432127 330424 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks for a second...
< 1386432146 197164 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a file unexpectedly shrinks while you're writing to it, stdio's correct behavior should be to re-expand the file with zeroes. < 1386432148 908445 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you seeing? < 1386432187 224514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: re-expanding the file with zeroes < 1386432202 746389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas the behaviour that I /want/ is to abort the write < 1386432205 306842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which implies no buffering < 1386432213 890836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I need to know what has and hasn't been written at any given point < 1386432495 579763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or put it this way: the previous code used stdio, it kept failing in bizarre ways because trying to keep track of buffering on top of everything else was just too much < 1386433151 44536 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the halting problem imply, that there actually is a program where it is undecidable if it halts or not? < 1386433160 539671 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or does it just state, that no algorithm can decide it < 1386433187 668720 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are those statements equivalent? < 1386433304 260007 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually one proofs that for any would be decision procedure for the halting program there is some input which it gets wrong (either giving a wrong answer or failing to terminate). < 1386433308 482642 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*proves < 1386433392 291092 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: In a sense, whether those statements are equivalent is philosophical. If you believe that humans are super-Turing, then they're not. If humans are not super-Turing, then they are. < 1386433487 449636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: Gödel's Theorem actually does explicitly construct an undecidable program < 1386434234 158742 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm searching for a proof of the halting problem that is actually understandable :) < 1386434243 72849 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :since like 6 years < 1386434247 672698 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I haven't found a single one < 1386434316 549935 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ones that don't make use of crazy math feed the program to itself < 1386434318 100029 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uhm < 1386434359 48480 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :L(Q,x) halts, if Q(x) does not and does not halt, if Q(x) halts < 1386434369 740910 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then L(L,L) and stuff goes boom < 1386434388 162510 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my brain just keeps yelling: How the fuck would that work < 1386434414 122968 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1386434418 938232 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the problem with it < 1386434421 934716 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1386434429 943269 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if L(L) halts, L(L) does not halt < 1386434433 20415 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :L computes whether Q halts for Input X < 1386434437 706243 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1386434451 900378 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so L(L,L) computes whether L(L) halts < 1386434461 381722 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1386434464 904227 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what's the input of the second L? < 1386434498 913788 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second L is actually the description of L < 1386434506 178630 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it does not need any input < 1386434580 721922 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. But what are you actually deciding then? < 1386434599 153525 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming f(x) is a function < 1386434615 341367 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :L(Q,x) should test whether Q(x,x) halts. < 1386434616 321306 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and L(f,x) tries to state whether f(x) can actually be computed < 1386434638 377102 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then L(L,L) does test termination of L(L,L) and all works out as claimed. < 1386434641 240434 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it computes L(f,f) < 1386434643 931251 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is f(f) < 1386434647 332343 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that don't make sense < 1386434684 985984 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1386434702 164755 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386434713 813184 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not actually f(f), it is more like f(written down definition of f) < 1386434732 36787 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i.e. gödel number or the like < 1386434735 644883 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the "how do you write down the definition of f" is the main mathematical content of the proof < 1386434736 836326 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what that definition is supposed to be < 1386434739 807101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything else is pretty trivial < 1386434747 977500 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The definition does not have any input < 1386434766 504169 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the defintion is just a number or a string or whatever < 1386434775 47740 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for what input are you actually trying to calculate whether it halts or not < 1386434776 785282 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as such does not need any kind of input < 1386434826 221998 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at L(Q,x) you test Q with input x,x as int-e stated < 1386434836 769510 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it will never ever come to f(f) there < 1386434856 162497 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1386434861 92442 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :L(L,L) computes L(L,L) < 1386434868 685646 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and inverts it < 1386434875 645827 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(doesn't it?) < 1386434880 47277 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1386434895 27279 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, if L(L,L) halts, L(L,L) does not halt < 1386434901 96416 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore, L cannot exist < 1386434920 162455 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if L is like universes in type theory? < 1386434960 826590 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you would actually have L_i(L_i-1,L_i-1) < 1386434967 111126 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if that would help < 1386434967 722997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh… actually what I really want is a scanf that gives pointers into the original string and decodes base 64 and decompresses zlib < 1386435008 9127 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I assume that there are two turing machines that are able to decide the halting problem < 1386435010 370727 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, no < 1386435015 200814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what i Want < 1386435016 959210 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :L(Q,x) and G(Q,x) < 1386435017 861952 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What you actually want is a program that writes all your software for you, as you want it < 1386435024 669408 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you don't know how you want it < 1386435025 404765 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then do L(G,G) and G(L,L) < 1386435028 511004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: yeah, that'd be nice, but it'd take too long to impl < 1386435053 268217 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you wouldn't be the one to impl it < 1386435055 936390 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :L(L,L) won't work < 1386435057 855546 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd already be impld < 1386435067 976160 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe L(G,G)? < 1386435085 415445 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :L(G,G) would by definition be G(G,G) < 1386435109 124440 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm yeah < 1386435152 513229 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :L(G,L) would be G(L,L) would be L(L,L) < 1386435196 460767 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: you can play such tricks, but you need more arguments, L(G,L) and G(G,L), where L(G,L) tests whether G(G,L) terminates and G(G,L) tests where L(G,L) terminates. < 1386435239 611268 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and these things become tedious soon. < 1386435343 272147 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386437233 116190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1386437893 171587 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/Z6Z4ZT3b <- you can also argue that way < 1386437906 433691 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it leaves unclear whether P(i) actually exists or not < 1386437933 452266 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we know, that if it does, that no program can decide that stuff < 1386438070 845236 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i put something undecideable into something that does decides everything, therefore it can't exists" sounds pretty strange < 1386438394 505353 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386438497 35613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elan's dad is starting to get annoying. < 1386438607 936264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you managed to make an `olist that wasn't duplicate, this is _highly_ irregular hth < 1386438675 918040 :SingingBoyo!~kvirc@154.5.185.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386438705 52692 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily they seem to be on their way of his subplot < 1386438707 39557 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1386438717 3527 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/of/away from/ < 1386438724 741149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: um did you even _read_ today's update. < 1386438746 59755 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeees < 1386438754 33278 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, we'll see < 1386438756 85277 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you reading? < 1386438765 386257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :order of the stick < 1386438770 828095 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1386438871 790197 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a bookmark on #726, haven't read it since. < 1386438974 961835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well the forum thread was only at 4 pages, and I'd checked like half an hour before < 1386439272 536257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : but what's the input of the second L? <-- i think you are a bit confused. L should only take one argument, and L(Q) should decide whether Q(Q) halts. < 1386439324 599178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and do the opposite.) < 1386439364 564888 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1386439370 269704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the initially assumed halting function which takes two arguments, not L. < 1386439469 478221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite possible your source was confused about this, wouldn't be the first time. < 1386440028 36196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : What if L is like universes in type theory? <-- then you get lots of nice proofs about separation in complexity hierarchies. < 1386440041 953374 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys < 1386440046 358240 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to ask a question < 1386440049 631970 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I forget what it is < 1386440058 123100 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we find my question using some sort of programming trick < 1386440068 418254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good, as i should be leaving now. < 1386440071 531223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1386440088 695347 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: And of course you always need a higher hierarchy to prove something about the one right below < 1386440258 228637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :found on Reddit: someone's trying to translate Haskell's Prelude into pure GNU Make (i.e. no shelling out or scripting): https://github.com/PiPeep/prelude.mk/blob/master/prelude.mk < 1386440286 56858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it seems pretty partial atm < 1386440438 699164 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1386440461 772716 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that is rather incomplete < 1386440498 450609 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1386440504 458112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably upvote it if it were more complete < 1386440519 759506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, how does PiPeep plan to handle lists of lists, for instance? < 1386441375 903029 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1386441499 765363 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1386441579 44636 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386441786 944205 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-218.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386443822 780235 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1386444367 43942 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386444756 2394 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386445418 252451 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386445500 686039 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-218.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1386445911 89752 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1386445978 889843 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386446634 765865 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a language that is directly based on set theory? < 1386446649 6733 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LISP is pretty close but it is not really < 1386446663 698504 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there are a lot of languages based on axiomatic systems < 1386446672 761988 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't think of any from ZFC < 1386446767 170247 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :most sets being unrepresentable doesn't hel. < 1386446768 176542 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1386446823 632566 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well all sets are representable in ZF-NC < 1386446867 872714 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But well, µ-recursive functions are based on some axiomatic system of integers < 1386446878 354071 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logical combinators as well, and lambda calculus < 1386446889 370333 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm wondering if there's any for some flavor of set theory < 1386446911 899801 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom_of_choice#Statements_consistent_with_the_negation_of_AC iunno < 1386447024 226999 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1386447062 631646 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think constructive set theory requires both the negation of choice and of the excluded middle < 1386447064 796867 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zfc isn't constructive, i guess is what i mean. < 1386447144 752756 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/set-theory-constructive/ oh good. < 1386447177 238707 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386447208 45375 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of people feel strongly about axiomatic systems, which I always find weird < 1386447220 262408 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like one of them is truer than another < 1386447228 286338 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any reason I shouldn't treat Red Bull as slightly weaker coffee that tastes much, much better? < 1386447249 741908 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do that, actually < 1386447250 879782 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But < 1386447256 474549 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Redbull has a Stigma < 1386447273 612825 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :People basically seem to treat it like DRUUUUGS < 1386447281 985378 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the taurine is kind of a boogey man < 1386447284 328901 :keoni29!53809983@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.128.153.131 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386447297 821558 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the taurine even do anything? Also, I treat coffee as a drug, so < 1386447313 937080 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I drink coffee to get a specific effect < 1386447317 645255 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a clue < 1386447383 61734 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is a drug. < 1386447404 703592 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I want something that has the taste of Red Bull without the caffeine, so I could drink it constantly without using it in drug mode. Technically still a drug I guess, but less dangerous to overconsume < 1386447431 180384 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but I mean drug as in < 1386447433 988935 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Social stigma < 1386447704 762741 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always assumed Red Bull was stronger than either < 1386447713 93065 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, than coffee < 1386447715 241268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't drink either < 1386447735 445856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in fact, I haven't drunk caffeinated drinks for like 8 years now) < 1386447750 13281 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1386447771 648983 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Redbull has about the same amount of caffeine as regular coffee < 1386447794 494654 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll stick to tea & occasional soft drinks < 1386447813 677650 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll stick with heroine < 1386448397 359618 :keoni29!53809983@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.128.153.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone here have experience with Forth? < 1386448410 748573 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some < 1386448440 894544 :keoni29!53809983@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.128.153.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am building a microcomputer based on an eZ8 microcontroller and I have to decide what it boots into < 1386448453 77613 :keoni29!53809983@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.128.153.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were thinking about Forth. < 1386448469 182437 :keoni29!53809983@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.128.153.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the moment I just have this shell from which you can run programs: < 1386448538 217387 :keoni29!53809983@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.128.153.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DyPKRJV9PI&feature=player_embedded < 1386448556 956570 :keoni29!53809983@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.128.153.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is an old version of the current firmwae < 1386448559 788711 :keoni29!53809983@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.128.153.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*firmware < 1386448652 109429 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1386449519 124738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :keoni29: yeah, Forth seems vaguely appropriate for that < 1386449532 397790 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its main uses are as a bootstrap language, and on embedded systems, and for making DSLs < 1386449540 690325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your use seems to fit into two out of three of those categories < 1386449851 981682 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 254 seconds < 1386449859 658066 :keoni29!53809983@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.128.153.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already wrote routines for comparing strings with a list of tokens < 1386449872 253588 :keoni29!53809983@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.128.153.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So writing an interpreter would not be a huge deal < 1386449884 391996 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.102.71 QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk < 1386449889 84407 :keoni29!53809983@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.128.153.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all written in Z8 assembler < 1386449896 110642 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, one of the people at my university seems to know you from b nomic < 1386450328 388981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: hmm, interesting < 1386450332 692126 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there aren't that many B players < 1386450341 291706 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's their name? or do you have a reason to keep it secret? < 1386450383 392824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, considering the list of people who would say B rather than Agora < 1386450386 308349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very short list indeed < 1386451275 625696 :keoni29!53809983@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.128.153.131 QUIT :Quit: Omnimaga.org < 1386451742 461073 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, jameseb < 1386451799 675080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, must be James Baxter < 1386451834 695096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've only posted to B 6 times, I had to search to see who it was < 1386451840 944780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm impressed that they can remember who I am < 1386451900 103032 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he said that he had a debate with you on an interpretation of a rule? < 1386452087 656008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happens a lot in nomics < 1386452141 142268 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, I suppose < 1386452153 140370 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1386452162 329302 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that the only thing that happens in nomics? < 1386452172 102981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well atm, nothing happens at all :-( < 1386452178 704387 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: anything can happen in a nomic < 1386452180 616154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you should see BlogNomic for a nomic that's normally based on using the rules < 1386452184 919263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than debating over them < 1386452203 494280 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386452443 665038 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1386452449 476379 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone is trying to log in as me on IRC < 1386452457 505910 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sock em < 1386452478 78401 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are not succeeding < 1386452484 613252 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am pretty sure that I am actually me < 1386452503 705644 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sock yourself just to be sure. < 1386452597 155564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1386452614 923241 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386452706 93437 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn35-003.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1386452731 306856 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-218.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386453123 203699 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no, it's just that temple ghosts often have your name < 1386453161 763351 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had that happen to me occasionally < 1386453171 528852 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: temple? I thought it was a 1 in 7 chance for ghosts generally < 1386453183 966727 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or have I got the context completely wrong?) < 1386453201 648115 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember because I refactored that code earlier today due to making the player's name not a global variable < 1386453208 155044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, yesterday, probably < 1386453210 636030 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: dunno, possible, I just spend lots of time in temples going in and out and get free ghosts for it < 1386453212 827498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe this morning < 1386453218 828490 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't meet many ghosts in other places < 1386453222 478410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: why? is this some new farming method I've never heard of? < 1386453238 977515 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's just that I have to leave and enter the temple for other reasons < 1386453245 456720 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ghosts themselves are useless < 1386453251 442999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, but why did you kill the priest? for conversion purposes? < 1386453289 495194 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't kill her! I was trying to save her! It was an accident and nothing to do with me! < 1386453298 363983 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not responsible for where dragons breathe! < 1386453350 565865 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was a mistake to kill her so early, I should have donated more to her and THEN kill and sacrifice her < 1386453377 825812 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-218.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386453424 338763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're going to blame it on me, in 3.4.3 the dragon would have ripped her apart with tooth and claw rather than using the breath attack < 1386453426 446275 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :two mistakes, because I killed both the minetown priest and the dlvl15 priest too early, but at least the dlvl15 priest was totally necessary eventually because she was cross-aligned < 1386453441 608706 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you still have the Valley priest left < 1386453444 379864 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1386453459 660837 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll kill her only right before the asc run < 1386453461 188430 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I wonder what happens if you StF a statue of a priest in the Orcustown temple < 1386453473 651864 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have donated all the gold to all three priests < 1386453481 546673 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I messed it up, I can get the value of my gold only once now < 1386453484 737040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this playstyle is alien to me, I typically don't kill priests < 1386453492 873312 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, I'm chaotic < 1386453497 818808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1386453503 616488 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, um, can we move to #nethack4? < 1386453503 818688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm (almost always) lawful < 1386453517 83474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the discussion's only funny /because/ it's in the wrong channel < 1386453521 64334 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you like < 1386453555 626532 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was way better before you managed to mention what the context was < 1386453586 236040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I know < 1386454255 612270 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote context < 1386454257 493959 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :112) how does a "DNA computer" work. von neumann machines? CakeProphet, that's boring in the context of DNA. It's just stealing the universe's work and passing it off as our own. \ 715) then they edited their own talk page comments after someone replied to it, and edited /th < 1386454436 757155 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hi. got anything interesting in the works < 1386454510 175988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I wanted to get a NetHack 4 release out by tomorrow < 1386454514 44619 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no way it's going to be ready on time < 1386454519 543403 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad day < 1386454526 506711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless I recruit the entire population of people who are familiar with the codebase to help out, and probably not even then < 1386454551 434965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why tomorrow? < 1386454552 474619 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 715 < 1386454553 857509 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :715) then they edited their own talk page comments after someone replied to it, and edited /the replier's comment/ so that it made sense in context < 1386454564 889963 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 10th anniversary of NetHack 3.4.3 < 1386454570 644073 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you should get zzo38 to make nethack 4 for famicom :D < 1386454590 695624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Maybe aim for Apr 1. < 1386454624 359555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I actually joked about NetHack for NES in the release message last April 1, although I wasn't thinking about zzo38 at the time < 1386454629 334615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just trying to find a platform that it obviously didn't wok on < 1386454633 93246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*work on < 1386454854 680102 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how big is nethack? how hard could it be? < 1386454897 520152 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: counting now < 1386454974 364794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack 3.4.3 is 206429 lines for the entire distribution; NetHack 4 (latest development version) is 150529 < 1386454996 943182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :partly due to a lot of refactoring, partly due to dropping support for various obscure platforms < 1386455121 670178 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently cartridges ranged up to 1MB, so it should be reasonably possible < 1386455159 629980 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what I remember, it's impossible to fit the NetHack binaries and a save file onto the same (1.44MB) floppy disk < 1386455218 283706 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you make a ridiculously NES-optimized version < 1386455228 856249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me personally? probably not < 1386455233 875784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, it might be possible < 1386455245 493964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could start with 3.1 or so and then turn all the optional features off, that'd help a bit < 1386455315 502501 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I just realised that if homeopathy actually worked I'd be immune to caffeine by now < 1386455457 684045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if homeopathy worked then all the world's oceans would be incredibly powerful medicine < 1386455605 175213 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the strongest shark poop solution in history < 1386455687 27273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't drink water. Fish fuck in it." < 1386455737 519375 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I drink water. Sometimes I get thirsty." < 1386455765 334512 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot more than fish fuck in it if you know what i mean *seductive wink* < 1386455874 14439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think i could manage that < 1386455896 53595 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1386455898 82119 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm saying i'm going to fuck a jellyfish < 1386456047 46508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like water < 1386456070 918774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's so easy? < 1386456074 428261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i've been drinking lots of non-water things for the past few months < 1386456082 965045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(double entendre on the word "easy") < 1386456083 157017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, yes, it's so easy < 1386456106 92994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: which things have you been drinking? < 1386456137 684316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think mostly various things that claim to be tea < 1386456186 89693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should drink proper tea, though < 1386456199 146166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe become a tea snob < 1386456212 960538 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: don't fuck a cuttle fish tho < 1386456229 368876 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :YR NOSE MIGHT GET PREEEEEGNANT < 1386456241 321478 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: cuddle a cuddlefish tho < 1386456250 116619 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will < 1386456259 695044 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it will probably vomit up ink and mucus on me < 1386456266 886898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're so cute < 1386456279 993936 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :small price to pay i suppose < 1386456281 305026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a cuddlefish a thing < 1386456304 58203 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yup < 1386456318 277574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i be a cuddlefish when i grow up < 1386456329 376771 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't live long enough to use their smart brains :/ < 1386456331 822243 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you already one < 1386456347 683603 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't live long enough to use my smart brain either :( < 1386456361 839656 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you mean how they have brains that are bigger than their bodies, including their brains? < 1386456380 831075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone live long enough to use their smart brains < 1386456395 352225 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a paleontologist posted that video yesterday. it made me happy < 1386456402 985125 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On that note, does anyone know how to use pietcreator? < 1386456625 922529 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1386456729 943977 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuddlefish have three hearts < 1386456831 768151 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtu.be/1bmrm_8Y9Bc < 1386456933 67396 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit i'm confused tooo help < 1386456948 158858 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/Janiczek/7849921 < 1386456951 344323 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1386457139 282866 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. < 1386457213 131015 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you start with the infinite radical set equal to zero you get the same value of x. < 1386457223 112999 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm guessing the substitution is somehow invalid. < 1386457297 121124 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if there's no value of x that makes the radical 1, or somethin < 1386457372 555071 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is < 1386457378 903591 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance =1 < 1386457431 636133 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nahhhhhh < 1386457564 133536 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what are you talking about, if x equals one than the substitution gives the square root of two. < 1386457675 929552 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm full of shit < 1386457682 95121 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sequence converges to phi < 1386457683 450985 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :might wanna get that checked out < 1386457699 305496 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it converge to phi < 1386457738 588982 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as "How can you get 1 from nested square roots of 0? < 1386457738 778030 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is nothing accumulating that would converge to a limit or something..." you're not taking a limit here < 1386457742 799178 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can call the problem √(x+y) = y, in which case you end up with x = y² - y, and again y = 0 and y = 1 have the same value for x, so like whatever man. < 1386457765 240494 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1386457766 261520 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1386457774 409319 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a familiar quadratic < 1386457782 722404 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you replace x with y < 1386457799 762973 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the solution is phi (and the other negative one, eta or w/e) < 1386457806 296871 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1386457807 384989 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1386457809 113074 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1386457812 157894 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :replace with 1 < 1386457814 866826 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1386457963 728378 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: can't you make √x, √(x+√x), √(x+√(x+√x)) bla bla an actual series somehow < 1386458007 364815 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but there's nothing saying the limit of that series will be the same as whatever you get by twiddling the infinite expression < 1386458041 587972 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense. < 1386458163 885608 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1386458214 521683 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of want to enter one of the BBC's quiz shows for some reason < 1386458547 165561 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: which kind of quiz show? < 1386458558 860818 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the weakest link? < 1386458733 680351 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386458758 101012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i almost learned why φ is good for integer hashing but didn't learn really :/ < 1386458758 686710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://brpreiss.com/books/opus4/html/page214.html < 1386458793 99957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1386459217 981284 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I was thinking more Only Connect < 1386459356 490372 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1386459358 676631 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :weakest link < 1386459360 692274 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it Taneb < 1386459406 427399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dragons' Den < 1386459420 749193 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, they aren't auditioning for Weakest Link! < 1386459424 921501 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do both < 1386459459 453991 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1386459567 967299 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1386459606 294860 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, the apprentice! < 1386459661 562026 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, no < 1386459671 331680 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386459696 939101 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, yes (ok no you're not enough of a twat to go on the apprentice) < 1386459719 844784 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also they aren't auditioning for it at the moment) < 1386459732 308578 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the apprentice is the show where that one rich douche yells at you right < 1386459746 429641 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna say tom cruise but that's not him < 1386459780 734592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :donald trump? < 1386459797 308646 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eah that one. < 1386459852 219118 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there something which is like hackathons but instead of pretending to make something useful, you just see who can write the fastest HTTP server or w/e in 24 hours < 1386459908 383272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would not think tom cruise and donald trump were very confusable < 1386459939 186707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly i mainly just know what they look like. < 1386459969 718019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover is thinking of alan sugar, presumably < 1386460065 591144 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just another face of the platonic rich douche in the heavens < 1386460490 811097 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1386460656 297398 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it retains some entertainment value in that the people he's yelling at are deliberately selected to be wannabe rich douches who are completely unbearable, but it still wears thin fast. < 1386460715 696909 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just sounds really sad. < 1386460719 153945 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386460887 242467 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386461432 315769 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386462391 809762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a hunch our wiki's rectwrap class is no longer working for IE11 :( < 1386462464 873824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by which i mean, i tried to fix lucasieks' edit to use it, it didn't look good, which made me look at the other places i knew it was used, and it no longer looked good there either.) < 1386462500 353846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't really surprising since it depends on IE having a parser difference. < 1386462583 244413 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: WHAT DID THEY DO < 1386462594 222833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: who < 1386462597 417746 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE NEED BETTER RESETS < 1386462601 554955 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: MS < 1386462619 272651 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a friend who does the product testing on IE < 1386462631 103837 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :LET'S GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS < 1386462649 674806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION watches Mr. van Doom's talk about esolangs
< 1386462655 397831 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1386462675 794860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i may be guessing that they fixed the parsing to be compliant with everyone else, _without_ fixing the thing that makes the usual style setting for making every other browser wrap things rectangularly break on IE < 1386462706 482684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the parser hack is necessary because the thing that makes it work for IE, makes firefox break instead. < 1386462752 370605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: btw this is our hack .rectwrap { word-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: pre\9 } < 1386462753 640236 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: can you relink that i'll watch it too < 1386462778 45394 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7FGKQu70TU < 1386462794 14312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the \9 makes either IE ignore that option or everyone else, i don't quite remember. < 1386462807 634344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or did in IE <= 9) < 1386462862 112277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ screen -r < 1386462862 301150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aborted < 1386462863 843042 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can't we just make a bad-IE-specific css and "I've received an uncommon phrase; what's the context? fnord" < 1386970301 701239 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: untrue! befunge is totes highlightable with the right UI < 1386970413 238661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: There's one sort of trivial thing that I think I've seen done in a chatbot, which is to select a single "keyword" from the input (based on TF-IDF weights on words or whatnot), do a search over some database like WordNet for related terms (both synonyms and antonyms), pick a random one, and then generate from n-grams both forwards and backwards so that the keyphrase is in an ... < 1386970419 247222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... unpredictable spot of the response. < 1386970440 985708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also add hyponyms and hypernyms and whatevernyms to that list.) < 1386970460 411134 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck hyponym < 1386970460 652925 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In linguistics, a hyponym is a word or phrase whose semantic field is included within that of another word, its hypernym (sometimes spelled hyperonym outside of the natural language processing community). < 1386970487 376312 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's a good idea :) currently roskat picks a word from the input (preferring uncommon words, based on message history) and starts with a random trigram whose predecessor includes that word < 1386970572 306693 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it helps, but it's far from acceptable as a form of "chatter". I intend to have the next version examine preceding messages & their sources for prompt/response patterns < 1386970573 48586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's really kind of similar, except without the WordNet step. < 1386970719 566424 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to diagram the whole thing first to see what sort of data I'll have to store regarding messages - then I can decide on other details < 1386970760 881568 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also quite a lot of work for natural language parsing; when you've got parse trees (or other such things), you can do things in terms of them. But those are kind of brittle, and might have trouble with informal chat-text. (Also it's an easy way to end up in a very Elizaey responses.) < 1386970777 66764 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for this bot, I don't particularly care about the semantic value of the messages < 1386970808 836481 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I did have an idea to have another bot which understood e.g. Gellish English and could create relationships between terms < 1386970817 783733 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck gellish < 1386970817 984602 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gellish is a formal language that is natural language independent, although its concepts have 'names' and definitions in various natural languages. < 1386970824 236942 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck gellish english < 1386970824 478416 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gellish Formal English is the English variant of Gellish and is a formal language, which means that it is a structured and formalized subset of natural English that is computer interpretable. < 1386970861 851460 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back on the statistical side of the fence, you can probably also boost the probability of "relevant" responses with some kind of a scheme based on clustering of "topic" words. < 1386970898 453119 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: uncommon words that appear in the chatter at around the same times? < 1386970934 196155 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :freebie uncommon word → paramycète. < 1386970944 962717 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck paramycète < 1386970945 162142 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1386970991 285145 :mrclarinet!mrclarinet@108-246-17-139.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386971016 479487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that, yes. Or just models trained on text with a specific topic, though if your source materials are irclogs, that's harder. (Unless you want to pay some Amazon Mechanical Turk people to label a gigabyte of logs with "current topic" annotations.) < 1386971046 604121 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm sure they'd do a splendid job on annotating #esoteric logs.) < 1386971054 720822 :mrclarinet!mrclarinet@108-246-17-139.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net PART :#esoteric < 1386971147 447982 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC chatter is hard enough to parse :) I think the biggest amount of parsing I'll do will be name extraction and directed responses/prompts (e.g. "mrhmouse: hello" is a directed prompt) < 1386971178 752911 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the chimæric helloes? < 1386971199 136980 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I can't parse those, so they'll remain in the chatter history as uncommon words < 1386971247 845868 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You can parse those sillyhelloes, right? < 1386971248 88639 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: later tell drewr may be slime wants you to do < 1386971278 754921 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best thing about those, though, is that they're usually clumped together. so prompting the bot with, say, "belloily", might result in "mrhmellouse" < 1386971312 860386 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello fungot < 1386971313 173486 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: it's a classic, i mostly wanted to take out fixnums and to put it later on?' what relevance does it have cons? < 1386971315 254354 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungellot < 1386971326 115599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sir Fungellot. < 1386971334 13385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Fungels a lot.) < 1386971365 392169 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'Sir Fungellot cannot be stopped by that sword alone!' >wisdom/fungot < 1386971365 625601 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: or is my code < 1386971369 196354 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386971409 92484 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :` run cat ./wisdon/fungot < 1386971409 350975 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: from reading the wikipedia entry for er, parachuting.)" at http://paste.lisp.org/ display/ 4408 < 1386971410 593250 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1386971439 500572 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: try `? < 1386971439 701751 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regarding the related-word thing, you can also do LSI instead of a WordNet-style a-priori-knowledge database. < 1386971444 347277 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1386971445 722247 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1386971449 964713 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fungot < 1386971450 160420 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: when you get to function calls, < 1386971450 160599 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL. < 1386971451 767163 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sir Fungellot cannot be stopped by that sword alone! < 1386971457 752090 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1386971459 284020 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1386971468 732678 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: you have to provide a phrase < 1386971468 967815 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1386971470 697608 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is the brother of Roujo's brother and he's monetizing the company Roujo works at, or something Canadian like that. He's also a NaniDispenser, and a Man Eating Chicken. < 1386971473 470882 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1386971493 475137 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: LSI? I'm not familiar with the acronym.. < 1386971507 413887 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck LSI < 1386971507 627416 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lsi definition: large-scale integrated circuit; large-scale integration. < 1386971516 245019 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: Latent Semantic Indexing, it's p. fancy. < 1386971548 215451 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you mean for the Gellish English bot? I intend for it to be fully spoon-fed :) < 1386971571 122135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just for something statistical based on irclogs. < 1386971574 110359 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-32.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386971597 796368 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. if it knows what a cat is (but not a dog), and it sees the word "dog" in a noun position, it would prompt the user to describe a dog < 1386971626 273278 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :after that point, it now has some knowledge of what a dog is (based on the description and all recognized words in the description) < 1386971721 133694 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might describe it as "an animal which chases cats". now it knows that a dog is an animal, and has the property that it chases cats (also an animal) < 1386971815 509151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very Cyc-ic. < 1386971824 10120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(How's that thing doing, anyway?) < 1386971879 835184 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cyc is still going? < 1386971891 601716 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck cyc < 1386971891 827856 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not based on numerical methods such as statistical probabilities, nor is it based on neural networks or fuzzy logic. < 1386971897 549428 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Stable release .. 17 months ago" well < 1386971926 125828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia: That's a good summary as far as it goes, but you could consider also saying something about what it *is* based on. < 1386971943 527488 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'tis a knowledge database using connectives! < 1386971974 110207 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :effectively a highly.. sophisticated prolog. < 1386971987 391174 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cyc-based solutions have helped government agencies and Global 100 commercial enterprises leverage their knowledge and expertise over a wide range of business verticals and across the full operational spectrum." < 1386972001 973031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leverage over a wide range of business verticals. < 1386972007 243568 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Across the full operational spectrum. < 1386972015 182017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see they've managed to leverage some marketing people, at least. < 1386972028 226620 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :marketing superlatives. < 1386972052 144951 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a friend of mine from MIT published a book like this. in fact... < 1386972057 252562 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.lulu.com/us/en/shop/mike-wolf/bitkit/paperback/product-233305.html < 1386973410 393681 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Quit: Oh fnordy fnordy < 1386973863 493390 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386974030 815282 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1386975269 829880 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386975680 251094 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: UNHUMONGOUS DECHICKEN < 1386975682 918214 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386975812 888401 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: good /part < 1386976211 119928 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-32.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1386976484 886127 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: I don't understand < 1386976499 738178 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from #haskell) < 1386976619 368796 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1386976886 808702 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1386977097 425814 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1386977171 628659 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1386977173 755453 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :XCOM has a slight Z-order problem for a fraction of a second whenever switching soldiers. http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/452907883059778581/E033A703267A6B165B926905057AFF60C2896574/ < 1386977183 937134 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1386977336 85887 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386977663 809032 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386978103 150729 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386978180 788298 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION moves the smorgases from the bord to the stomach
< 1386978230 926414 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you LinearInterpol < 1386978310 215118 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the perfect way to release a Linux distro and get maximum community participation. http://repo.steamstatic.com/download/ < 1386978317 760326 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :back. < 1386978322 747599 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: prettyyy good. < 1386978341 954208 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: do you like swedish food < 1386978354 218332 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure. < 1386978388 533800 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm whipped marshmallow cream with a hard chocolate shell < 1386978401 525514 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this probably has a name < 1386978404 322458 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop making me jealous. < 1386978527 867840 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you don't have an ikea near you < 1386978534 690019 :RJones!~root@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386978537 96174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1386978561 706615 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1386978571 139975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helioerjan < 1386978632 678108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellopiaf < 1386978685 217848 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tonight is swedish buffet night < 1386978693 84124 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only food i'm eating all day < 1386978715 417598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also s. lucia day < 1386978730 261431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was, an hour ago < 1386978803 329761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a most peculiar scandinavian holiday based on taking an italian song about a harbor named s. lucia and pretending it's about the actual saint < 1386978823 669532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then singing that in processions of children. < 1386978832 549475 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :st. lucia is a p cool island from what i've heard < 1386979067 70936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Lucia also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borgo_Santa_Lucia i think i'm going to add a [citation needed] to the latter. < 1386979221 961161 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386979234 141711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i should ask an actual swede. < 1386979250 341537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: why you so idle < 1386979265 173197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: awake? < 1386979275 117783 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, why did I read "ask" as "smoke"? < 1386979295 520939 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION smokes an actual Taneb
< 1386979299 737876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: maybe you like smoking turnips, i dunno < 1386979300 720193 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1386979308 549832 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you smoke a Taneb? < 1386979312 760612 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds painful < 1386979319 637448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: why so _hideously_ idle < 1386979321 877876 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, only for me < 1386979326 739348 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: by driving faster < 1386979327 388130 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right < 1386979333 724639 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, goodnight < 1386979336 99653 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1386979375 736838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i may be out of actual swedes. but in case not, is "Today, among other things, that song is considered somewhat the unofficial hymn of Sweden" about luciasången as preposterous as it sounds? < 1386979399 688252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could imagine it being true with s/the/an/ < 1386979452 797382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then the aussies have "waltzing mathilda", so what do i know < 1386979548 645212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just edited it instead.
< 1386979606 253000 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with waltzing matilda? < 1386979656 841516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just not in the usual style for a national anthem hth < 1386979691 810974 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1386979816 782020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.google.no/search?q=luciat%C3%A5g&biw=1176&bih=613&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=q6GrUuy7OYS47QaX2oAw&sqi=2&ved=0CCoQsAQ hth < 1386980153 706317 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the clever trick for getting orecchiete not to stack? < 1386980185 579567 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought stirring a lot while they cooked would do it but it doesn't. Do I need to separate the noodles individually by hand before adding to water? < 1386980291 364930 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://food52.com/hotline/16710-keep-orecchiette-from-sticking-together does this help? < 1386980401 563744 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Today's bug: If a prisoner happens to be on the toilet when his time in jail finishes, he will remain trapped on the toilet forever" game bug logs are great < 1386980496 775611 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I added them to water that was boiling hard, and I stirred frequently. The problem is that they are already stacked in the bag and the hot water makes them stick that way faster than stirring can break them up. < 1386980514 133206 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the solution is "buy shell noodles instead because they're just better." < 1386980706 488240 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shells are wonderful < 1386980720 438154 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think shells and rigatoni are my favorite < 1386980798 90549 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1386980988 752446 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shells cost more per pound at Safeway, though, and TJ's never seems to have them < 1386981131 398044 :RJones!~root@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386981306 126650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_: wouldn't it be a good idea to unstack them _before_ dropping them in the water, then. < 1386981334 772868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they're frozen or something. < 1386981354 569423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you mentioned that option. < 1386981358 786162 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386981393 430715 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we talking killy shells here or what < 1386981420 533765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: term unknown, please rephrase < 1386981431 223725 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill-y < 1386981448 693461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pasta shells hth < 1386981455 279353 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1386981457 44263 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1386981460 965241 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the fuck freezes pasta < 1386981479 221651 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trader joe's has a lot of frozen pasta dishes that are kinda nice < 1386981494 90528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly nobody, it was just the main reason i could think of for why you couldn't separate them before boiling < 1386981734 638672 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider the option of unstacking them individually by hand, rather than stirring them all at once, to take an unreasonable amount of time. < 1386981865 81974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm imagining shaking them into a dry bowl and separating them by "stirring" there. might even work. < 1386981906 111274 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1386981920 117853 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it help if you pour them in, like, before the water is boiling? < 1386981971 529518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, does the package have any tips. < 1386981998 833281 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1386982081 233907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hey, can someone help me understand Lazy K? <-- did you get any answer? < 1386982109 263275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote lazy.lazy < 1386982109 452038 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ShelSilverstein says: Lazy Lazy Lazy Lazy Lazy Lazy Jane. She wants a drink of water so she waits and waits and waits and waits and waits for it to rain. < 1386982115 109850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen ThatOtherPerson < 1386982119 334196 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-12-14 00:02:07: Ah, right < 1386982132 861679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, whoa, whoa < 1386982139 708086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :last seen in the future < 1386982178 290267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that's less than an hour ago < 1386982186 729590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`date < 1386982186 918386 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.102.71 PART :#esoteric < 1386982188 71461 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sat Dec 14 00:49:47 UTC 2013 < 1386982207 269937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it does the sane UTC thing < 1386982227 517307 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not yet < 1386982233 635194 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I talked to Taneb about it a little < 1386982243 242733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: p. sure mountain view time is the only sane time < 1386982279 491883 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing that bugs me about the wiki page is it only seems to describe how it is different from Unlambda < 1386982283 398033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: right, real fast nora's hair salon III: shear disaster download is isomorphic to lazy k < 1386982300 269218 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I will try that with the remaining package. There are no tips on the label. < 1386982339 146690 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I've been looking into Nora, and I thought perhaps it would be easier to learn by learning about Lazy K < 1386982346 366529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: well lazy k is ski calculus, which is like a subset of unlambda, except that it's also lazy in evaluation order. < 1386982348 769301 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... my brain is being stretched < 1386982362 197570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :real fast nora < 1386982374 14454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a sense, the lazy version is the more mathematically pure one. < 1386982388 984050 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's about the only part I understand ;D < 1386982389 539132 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah lazy k wasn't really very rigidly-conceived < 1386982428 941793 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think gould just thought of the language itself as something very obvious and so he only bothers describing the syntax and showing off lazier < 1386982459 646103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same abstraction elimination process for converting lambda calculus works for both. of course with lazy k you then get _lazy_ lambda calculus. < 1386982497 594306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it _is_ obvious i think. < 1386982507 457834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know haskell and lambda calculus :P < 1386982587 593687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course as someone who has written unlambda, i'm biased. < 1386982600 439972 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand the general principles, but I don't really know how to program in it yet < 1386982616 234572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know how to program unlambda < 1386982617 90869 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Would you recommend starting in Unlambda first? < 1386982633 217696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really sure < 1386982643 592409 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I don't know unlambda yet < 1386982680 989775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you need is a good understanding of how to do things in lambda calculus, and then how to abstraction eliminate. < 1386982686 172728 :_46bit_!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nbibqtrzqqjsrvls NICK :_46bit < 1386982689 972190 :_46bit!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nbibqtrzqqjsrvls QUIT :Changing host < 1386982690 161031 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz JOIN :#esoteric < 1386982714 919072 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm, I have a fairly... basic idea of how to do things in Haskell < 1386982720 790719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: you might look at madore's unlambda page, it has many tips for how to program in that, which should at least approximately apply to lazy k. < 1386982728 548885 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :which obviously translates into a typed lambda calculus < 1386982744 541931 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learnt the lambda calculus perfectly well from the wp article < 1386982746 271696 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably the point is more about evaluation order than types < 1386982750 462241 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :just sayin' < 1386982750 652224 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, thanks! < 1386982801 258044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: also one thing about laziness is that it's the order of evaluation that is guaranteed to work if _any_ does, so if you write a program that works _strictly_, it will automatically work lazily. although possibly with a space leak :P < 1386983158 954172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: you're definitely going to need to understand how to use higher order functions. < 1386983177 977282 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Luckily I understand those quite well < 1386983213 729513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1386983256 232727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you want to understand how to make data structures with them, e.g. simulating haskell's ADTs < 1386983288 621506 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that sounds interesting < 1386983299 884640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the matter of flow control, in particular how to do recursion with the self-application trick. < 1386983336 814050 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :adts you could just do as a tagged union where the union element is a tuple right < 1386983371 701019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's not the simplest way < 1386983380 113410 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the simplest way. < 1386983394 736692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say to implement data Bool = False | True < 1386983412 903102 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you do that < 1386983441 504802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you implement an element of Bool as a function with _two_ arguments, one to use if it's False, one to use if it's True. < 1386983448 404088 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead of a tag you just have it only called by case functions < 1386983450 159590 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1386983473 624804 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have it pass the data if it exists to that function? < 1386983478 140678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1386983483 753491 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right makes sense < 1386983492 190859 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly me, thinking of data as data < 1386983521 733465 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functions are data! < 1386983530 23951 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the future is the past < 1386983542 555668 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :All bikes are one < 1386983546 9565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :False = \x y -> y, True = \x y -> x, and then if b then x else y becomes just b x y < 1386983569 665144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i sort of switched the order of False and True there to make the if the right order) < 1386983604 441473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if you instead have data Either a b = Left a | Right b < 1386983637 65026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then Left x = \l r -> l x and Right y = \l r -> r y < 1386983675 873380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you add more arguments for constructors that have more arguments. < 1386983702 430039 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that's pretty cool < 1386983704 53545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tuple has just one constructor, so (x,y,z) = \f -> f x y z < 1386983728 693033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's basically all you need to implement ADTs as functions. < 1386983952 206870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to understand lazy K's IO format, you need (x,y) pairs + one more thing called church numerals. < 1386984025 126129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a church numeral is a natural number encoded as a function applying another function that number of times. i.e. 1 = \f x -> f x, 2 = \f x -> f (f x), 3 = \f x -> f (f (f x)) etc. < 1386984118 955727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo consider scott encoding rather than church encoding < 1386984137 817575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i never remember the difference. < 1386984170 421712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i only mentioned church for the numerals, which are definitely what lazy k uses. < 1386984227 1240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some but not all arithmetic is fairly easy with church numerals. < 1386984234 89534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(subtraction is a pain.) < 1386984301 213561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like tail is a pain with church lists < 1386984333 494112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldr (\x y -> (ord x,var$show y)) $ "Hello, world!" ++ repeat '\256' < 1386984334 830197 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `(GHC.Types.Int, < 1386984335 19037 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Debug.SimpleReflect.Expr.Expr)' < 1386984335 19194 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `[GHC.Types.Char]' < 1386984345 69849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm something not quite right. < 1386984354 613978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldr (\x y -> (ord x,var$show y)) undefined $ "Hello, world!" ++ repeat '\256' < 1386984355 756347 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : (72,(101,(108,(108,(111,(44,(32,(119,(111,(114,(108,(100,(33,(256,(256,(256,... < 1386984381 593519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: that's like the first step for encoding "Hello, world!" into lazy k format. < 1386984436 449176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't bother to use a proper list with a nil format, just inserts infinitely many 256 after the end. < 1386984487 519378 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, thanks! < 1386984513 749529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome! < 1386984545 97559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you'll find that particular encoding in my real fast nora implementation too.) < 1386984576 637629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, approximately, anyway. < 1386984997 261066 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho EOF should just be \Omega < 1386985158 922490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that could work < 1386985200 528662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although mainly because you can write something that ignores the difference between number >= 256 < 1386985208 330888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1386985819 762582 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait how could that work < 1386985836 485792 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do anything with omega, that was the joke < 1386985842 127842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's \Omega < 1386985849 843866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinity? < 1386985864 63894 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's (lambda x.x x)(lambda x.x x) < 1386985883 502708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1386985884 664017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1386986185 635204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that omega < 1386986216 462789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sort of interpreted it as \f x -> fix f < 1386986228 149242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie infinity < 1386986251 781148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1386986297 547416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo (exists x. (x, x -> Maybe x)) < 1386986593 635268 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1386986619 135390 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1386986647 43965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily good unpentadactyl morning! <-- my condolences on losing a finger < 1386986647 270396 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386987087 151238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mrhmouse (Control.Arrow.>>>) < 1386987087 378397 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386987150 555000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (Control.Category.>>>) < 1386987151 429709 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category cat => cat a b -> cat b c -> cat a c < 1386987175 316278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right it got moved and generalized < 1386987186 325028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t foldr (\x y -> (ord x,var$show y)) undefined $ "Hello, world!" ++ repeat '\256' < 1386987187 305506 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Int, Expr) < 1386987195 82920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhhhhh trickysauce < 1386987206 596451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was like "how did you construct an infinite recursive tuple type???" < 1386987206 785177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles innocently
< 1386987219 451195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite types are too good < 1386987233 769299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :too easy < 1386987248 241051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :catab catbc catac < 1386987255 414081 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1386987258 212212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "a very reasonable name for a variable, don't you think" < 1386987259 415260 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : a very reasonable name for a variable, don't you think < 1386987260 411542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cat, a cab, a bat, bacat! < 1386987288 299907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "a very reasonable text, don't you think" < 1386987289 381651 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : a very reasonable text, don't you think < 1386987435 327541 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "An excellent text." < 1386987436 447520 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : An excellent text. < 1386987485 99841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (var . text) < 1386987486 498578 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `[GHC.Types.Char]' < 1386987486 687736 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : with `Debug.SimpleReflect.Expr.Expr' < 1386987486 876457 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: Debug.SimpleReflect.Expr.Expr -> GHC.Base.String < 1386987486 876612 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Actual type: GHC.Base.String -> Text.PrettyPrint.HughesPJ.Doc < 1386987536 761657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on second thought, that shouldn't work in any shape or form. < 1386987747 762429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell I had a dream that I has a secret esoteric lair <-- good, good, we may make an evil overlord of you yet < 1386987747 969294 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386988361 977042 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386988408 451456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily normally distributed glazed eyes served over bouchées of surreal bread rolls. <-- are you attempting to create québécois/r'lyehan fusion cuisine < 1386988408 662882 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386988754 871030 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is r'lyehan a klingon word < 1386988956 989992 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you for thinking that as well. < 1386988980 271486 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386989058 534946 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh its a lovecraftian place < 1386989068 21547 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :r'lyeh i remember now < 1386989084 411459 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language is like, aklo, or some shit like that. < 1386991953 214480 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386992100 331538 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d QUIT :Client Quit < 1386992111 216799 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386992167 896268 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386992241 469835 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d QUIT :Client Quit < 1386992250 220994 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386992647 423182 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1386992727 313554 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember being so confused about over... why didn't anyone tell me that it was modify? (Or, maybe I'm thinking of a different over?) < 1386992892 782984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh just get over it < 1386993867 188899 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386994391 280805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386994466 150957 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386994582 452938 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a JOIN :#esoteric < 1386994825 816450 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1386995264 254461 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386995913 236221 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386998549 486487 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386998584 894843 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386998851 888655 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1386999024 795756 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386999495 741271 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1387002325 12387 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387002494 14056 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw man, google bought boston dynamics. < 1387002518 268410 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :all their robots are gonna be all corporate and soulless now < 1387002529 375559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i for one etc. < 1387002555 430916 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Executives at the Internet giant are circumspect about what exactly they plan to do with their robot collection." < 1387002600 172926 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, they said they don't want to move into military contracting, at least. i guess < 1387002661 298221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :military /contracting/ < 1387002674 353449 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1387002748 771788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :leaving open the possibility of developing military robots for their own use < 1387002778 349621 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. heh. yeah. < 1387002800 800484 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should research the legality of spider death robots < 1387003473 708263 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Legality irrelevant. It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission < 1387003504 258066 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also easier to ask things if you haven't been shot < 1387003512 391971 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :New Amiga 68k port of Doom http://youtu.be/JpjVxuJBWak < 1387004828 94520 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387004851 330011 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 NICK :Guest6653 < 1387005135 204231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1387007678 693482 :SBoyo!~kvirc@154.5.185.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387008183 594616 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387008316 108956 :Guest6653!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387009076 530131 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387011208 242469 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387011227 800203 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387014375 749039 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387015074 113402 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387016957 528060 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Runtime Error (at 139:148): Access violation at address 7D2DA677 in module 'gdiplus.dll'. Read of address 00212C84." arrrr this wine be broken. < 1387017319 350734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All 'w' and 'm' characters are also very broken-looking. (Other characters are fine.) < 1387017339 325633 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun < 1387017795 439387 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387018463 758272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Internal error: Expression error 'Runtime Error (at 16:21): Invalid floating point operation.'" < 1387018468 565650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just keeps getting better. < 1387018827 191225 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d JOIN :#esoteric < 1387019618 963909 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387019676 568387 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1387019676 800822 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1387021792 227968 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387021950 147235 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387022237 256141 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387022247 190769 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387025349 189972 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387027535 89978 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1387027570 374924 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387027576 852321 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a JOIN :#esoteric < 1387027589 808452 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387027941 976006 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehttps://bitbucket.org/FeministSoftwareFoundation/c-plus-equality < 1387027971 781556 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/FeministSoftwareFoundation/c-plus-equality < 1387028086 189753 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dafuq? < 1387028117 292769 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1 is inherently phallic and thus misogynistic." < 1387028117 499429 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should write a compiler < 1387028119 942608 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is true! < 1387028129 660293 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do eet! < 1387028283 910992 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Variables self-declaring as pointers are known as "otherkin". A pointer to an array is an "arraykin"." < 1387028285 861094 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387028295 65978 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of "running" a program, which implies thin privilege and pressure to "work out", programs are "given birth". < 1387028299 502389 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1387028353 486015 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do wonder if you could actually make a language out of it < 1387028360 347446 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if it is too contradictory < 1387028398 527516 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :- header files are known as headHer files, with extension .Xir < 1387028453 482503 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: interesting, fizzbuzz states that 1 should be success < 1387028468 604462 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly that is misogynistic < 1387028520 907451 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao < 1387028538 442704 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Curly brackets are not allowed, as they perpetuate our society's stereotype of the 'curly' women. Instead, Python-esque indentation is used." < 1387028547 757052 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :- assignment constrains its lefthand side to an externally imposed presentation and orientation; replaced by accepts(), and lefthand side is free to refuse (NO MEANS NO!) < 1387028601 285498 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no bugs, only snowflakes. < 1387028636 687435 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"% now known as the 'cock and balls operator'" < 1387028708 32558 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer intercal's rabbit operator < 1387028743 770887 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is? < 1387028767 991661 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should make an entry in the esolang wiki < 1387028792 497041 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the simultaneous use of . and " < 1387028815 59343 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently back in punchcard days you could punch two characters as one input < 1387029009 872764 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure you couldn't with a punch-card? < 1387029029 164391 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a line printer could backspace and print a second character on top of an already-printed one < 1387029067 506869 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1387029079 8140 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only vaguely remember what the justification of the rabbit was < 1387029142 1643 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also fun fact, the reason the APL charset is as weird as it is, is mainly because most of the characters were composed in a similar manner by typing one character over another one < 1387029187 101047 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So vertical bar and delta gives you ⍋, e.g. < 1387029209 201764 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did they even have keyboards back in APL days? < 1387029230 721649 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Character sets don't matter much if you program on punchcards I suppose < 1387029274 533673 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387029292 897472 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387029337 345258 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :They did; here's what the IBM 2741 looked like apparently: http://xahlee.info/kbd/i/IBM_2741_printing_terminal_APL_keyboard.jpg < 1387029443 6265 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the left margin indicator in the middle of the page ... < 1387029753 100690 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, by "line printer" I think I meant "teletype" < 1387030709 408370 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387030840 144354 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387031485 77521 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does english require to use 'a' in enumerations? < 1387031486 514844 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uhm < 1387031491 651570 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dog, a cat, a hound, a house < 1387031501 617411 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a dog, cat, hound and a house? < 1387031509 90653 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I have a dog, a cat, a hound and a house? < 1387031809 904050 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387032192 686937 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like a GTK-Callgirl, too, hunspell < 1387032257 237855 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortticat < 1387032284 147262 :nortticat!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1387032996 210540 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i have a dog, cat, hound, and house" sounds acceptable to me < 1387033204 108040 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-32.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387033255 649383 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the a's it definitely works though < 1387033299 908316 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387033321 645803 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1387033683 719692 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT : < 1387033903 953248 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387034361 358472 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1387035953 154007 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387036216 473118 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wine went from error messages to "sound stutters, whole computer hangs up, reboots after ten seconds or so"; I think I'll give up on it. < 1387036247 362273 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reboots? That's really weird < 1387036504 782712 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387036568 833519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps something has configured a software watchdog feature on. < 1387036612 905238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though /sys/class/watchdog is empty. < 1387036657 219416 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux has software watchdogs that let you reboot the system? < 1387036662 528904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1387036668 331430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/The_Linux_Kernel/Softdog_Driver < 1387036691 426244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I doubt it's enabled by default much anywhere. < 1387036780 273561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing much in the logs at the time of the reboot, except for a "kernel: [16305.769629] NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 61, 0092(1e64) 00000000 00000000" line. But that's a bit earlier, I think, and anyway quite frequent occurrence. (I'll blame the nvidia binary blob anyway, it's an easy target.) < 1387036848 227417 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT : < 1387036970 697200 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's a global freeze a software watchdog is useless anyway < 1387036983 719176 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SteamOS comes with a LD_PRELOAD hack that prevents programs from changing the screen resolution, and with a compositor that scales fullscreen windows with a smaller size to the screen resolution. The LD_PRELOAD thing may be a bit of a kluge (and perhaps they’ll change that), but i approve. < 1387037019 664364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: It's kind of a best-effort thing. < 1387037131 904993 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 out of 75 items in my Steam library have Linux versions, which is quite a percentage, if still a bit disappointing. < 1387037204 115726 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-252.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387037242 401557 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-252.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1387037242 605248 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387038059 724308 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-32.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387038667 836012 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387039281 176803 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387039466 119310 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387039576 82196 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1387039987 216791 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.7.205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387040211 249253 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387040243 910620 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387040487 345072 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387040515 911486 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387040523 832122 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-32.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387040952 818040 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387041333 3581 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1387041555 348172 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: That's pretty interesting < 1387041567 338888 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the performance of that is < 1387041705 912117 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's common to use "we" in english papers apparentely? < 1387041724 935109 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "we invented some new method" and "we investigate stuff" < 1387041725 945486 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hell, since when. < 1387041738 69890 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we propose a new method ...." < 1387041748 899590 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387041818 32718 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: So, it's not common? < 1387041842 124463 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :given no context it's not common. < 1387041851 496083 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're representing some form of group maybe it's common. < 1387041854 832146 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but written by one person? < 1387041855 758533 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-32.psoas.suomi.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1387041859 67593 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubt it. < 1387041877 769698 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example if I cannot deduce who "we" is by just taking into account the context of the sentence.. < 1387041882 655474 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be anybody. < 1387041911 278366 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if you explicitly specify your context then yes, "we" is acceptable. < 1387041916 981308 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/200169/now-vldb.pdf <- that has "we" < 1387041942 524909 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright, that makes sense. < 1387041944 21698 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/200047/cloudEdge.pdf <- also uses we < 1387041951 480113 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're representing more than one person and I know that. < 1387041974 76433 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's why they made that apparent at the top of the document. < 1387041979 949510 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise you'd use "I"? < 1387041990 789319 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1387041997 351178 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you must use "I", do it over "we". < 1387042012 468769 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because "I" 'points' to the obvious context of the writer unless specified. < 1387042031 345789 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm asking because in german papers you better not use either "we" or "I" at all < 1387042045 635471 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s why I said "if you must use". < 1387042053 970956 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually self reference like that is not acceptable. < 1387042060 372307 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any context. < 1387042069 416102 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd use passive voice nearly everywhere < 1387042072 394800 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387042079 141274 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A new method was developed" and stuff like that < 1387042081 981708 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you don't want to attach some sort of centered bias. < 1387042087 934444 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the paper and its content. < 1387042092 228153 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I've heard that passive voice is very uncommon in english anyway < 1387042108 399980 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :passive voice is common in english speakers with no knowledge on how they use their words. < 1387042108 829219 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some random papers I googled used "we" all over the place < 1387042124 538657 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is not common in english speakers < 1387042134 872479 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to translate my german abstract to english < 1387042144 974665 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's gonna be hell. < 1387042148 139358 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm wondering whether I should use we or just stick to passive voice < 1387042165 631250 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you representing a group, and are talking about something that relates to your situation/accomplishments? < 1387042181 817502 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, use "we". < 1387042182 880744 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're two guys < 1387042184 81751 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1387042186 401113 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :plural :) < 1387042188 244821 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :use we. < 1387042194 515949 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only if that second part applies. < 1387042202 80070 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ergo you've done something and are talking about it. < 1387042206 493868 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1387042211 22834 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have done something. < 1387042212 158453 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1387042215 256203 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, "we" is acceptable in this case. hehe. < 1387042230 759635 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We designed a RISC CPU essentially < 1387042245 276979 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice! first time? < 1387042268 469014 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1387042274 6377 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :architecture design is fun as hell. < 1387042286 633146 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember building my first when I was like 14. < 1387042298 508317 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really small 8-bit RISC. < 1387042331 785386 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :designed to mirror some of the qualities of a certain famous MOS Tech. microprocessor. < 1387042332 959595 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how big an OISC CPU would be < 1387042341 668021 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: very small. < 1387042343 991234 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :very. small. < 1387042356 420253 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess maybe a dozen gates or so? < 1387042357 77695 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the die itself would probably take up a fraction of the space of most modern dies. < 1387042373 120503 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it'd certainly be less than modern architectures.. < 1387042384 122232 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you essentially are designing a control unit and ALU around one instruction. < 1387042401 732335 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. But it's nothing serious < 1387042415 223778 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like building a castle in a sandbox < 1387042415 458748 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey. < 1387042431 995168 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything in this field is serious. < 1387042445 248061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's common in single-author papers in our field, at least. < 1387042455 246694 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or so I believe, anyway. < 1387042465 331500 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you built a RISC architecture. you can now say you have the capability of designing processor architectures now. < 1387042476 559228 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty big accomplishment. < 1387042487 586616 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant what *we* did was nothing serious < 1387042492 910202 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it was. < 1387042494 264075 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1387042513 420770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called [[ The author's "we" ]] in Wikipedia's "Atypical uses of /we/" list. < 1387042513 827868 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What'd you use to simulate it/prototype it? Verilog? < 1387042537 140557 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387042541 973800 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best papers are HEP papers < 1387042550 289191 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When there's a thousand authors per paper < 1387042554 651603 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah, that's if you're taking your reader into the context with you. < 1387042599 144024 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure I've seen also uses that plainly don't include the reader. < 1387042633 694174 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't seen that in any research papers I've read. < 1387042690 855718 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I hadn't had the capability of designig processor architectures I couldn't possibly have designed one < 1387042697 457286 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :+already < 1387042714 76893 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but that's the point. < 1387042716 755975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess our papers so rarely have a single author. < 1387042729 360229 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said you could do something, and did it! < 1387042740 703006 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you leveled up! < 1387042742 96742 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387042788 869163 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your next duty is to make a befunge processor. < 1387042804 329697 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will recieve 10,000,000xp for this task. < 1387042840 157768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To mitigate this, we analyze the problem and present --" from abstract of Christensen, M.G. (only author), "Accurate Estimation of Low Fundamental Frequencies From Real-Valued Measurements", IEEE Transactions on Audio, Speech and Language Processing. < 1387042850 429372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(First single-author paper I could find looking at its recent issues.) < 1387042851 689485 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's that a level up? < 1387042858 868453 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already knew what I was doing < 1387042878 859876 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but saying you knew what you were doing and actually demonstrating it are two different things. < 1387042887 70849 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you got an exp bonus. :P < 1387042908 242153 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's one of those cases where you bring your reader into the context with you. < 1387042930 305688 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reader is certainly not presenting anything. < 1387042962 830219 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just like saying "We then can conclude from this observation yadda yadda yadda blah blah blah" < 1387042965 956541 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :freefull: Probably not different at all. < 1387042995 942888 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: Well, how about "we refer the interested reader to [20]" -- is the reader part of that too? < 1387043024 576224 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose not. < 1387043038 578843 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bad case of ambiguity: what does "we" really refer to then? < 1387043058 985691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The author of the paper; I don't think it's very ambiguous at all. < 1387043071 943322 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is extremely ambiguous. < 1387043086 888106 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because in use of the author's "we", you must refer to both the reader and the author. < 1387043127 772903 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what does "we" refer to? if it refers to the author of the paper it should be "I" < 1387043134 217033 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's bloody singular, not plural. < 1387043157 941839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you need to refer to the reader at all. < 1387043163 571935 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a singular we. < 1387043165 782499 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We#The_author.27s_.22we.22 < 1387043166 94319 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: Yeah, but it's not like I've learned much < 1387043174 222219 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learnt that gtk callbacks are type unsafe as hell < 1387043180 822433 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's pretty much it < 1387043181 693043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: Note the word "often". < 1387043203 826356 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet "we" cannot refer to a singular. < 1387043213 848212 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we" is not a singular. "I" is a singular. < 1387043221 719254 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's improper usage if that context is to be interpreted that way. < 1387043264 950198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can't be improper if it's the accepted practice. < 1387043267 167939 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the author is a member of some organization then. < 1387043289 640762 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you're stepping onto a very slippery slope. < 1387043310 307853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they ~always are, so if you *want* to interpret them as speaking on behalf of their affiliated organization... < 1387043334 762895 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the context makes sense. < 1387043375 989212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Some journals prefer using "we" rather than "I" as personal pronoun.[citation needed]" aw, I was hoping for a link. < 1387043385 341050 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387043394 238030 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: Also it's actually a whole computer platform we designed < 1387043399 811386 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :including graphics card, keyboard controller etc. < 1387043446 187215 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What'd you use for an FPGA? < 1387043462 922799 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a hardware spec < 1387043467 521822 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a spec of functionality < 1387043474 106520 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which we implemented in a software emulator < 1387043568 220120 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we on the fly designed a programming language too < 1387043574 55194 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, lovely. I wish you the best of luck porting it to Verilog. :P < 1387043579 264653 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wrote a compiler that targets our architecture < 1387043587 769923 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: I'll probably use VHDL < 1387043591 133209 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I already know VHDL < 1387043594 712428 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeew, VHDL.. < 1387043596 905642 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I ever port it < 1387043599 405577 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1387043614 392585 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never liked VHDL for recreational things.. < 1387043659 575413 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really good in professional settings though. The verbosity makes it clear. < 1387043680 517613 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike a certain programming language who's name starts with the letter J I will fail to recognize the existence of. < 1387043773 153783 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1387043781 946696 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever been forced to use J? < 1387043790 310127 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Several times. < 1387043800 838394 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1387043806 364254 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Horrifying language, it is.. < 1387043815 200517 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you don't want to use Burlesque :) < 1387043815 432856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I don't know if you'd really say J's name starts with J. < 1387043855 650952 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a great language though < 1387043866 283259 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew. < 1387043867 681927 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really enjoyed J < 1387043881 361774 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sure. It ends in J, too, and there's a J in the middle. < 1387043885 558140 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not java. scre that < 1387043890 141555 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw* < 1387043909 328021 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1387043917 470646 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck java < 1387043918 458620 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: do you have any public details i could look at on your processor? < 1387043918 799523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Sure, but I'm not entirely certain it was the language that was being referred to, given the way it was put. < 1387043926 697031 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: indeed < 1387043948 323910 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm sure it was the one that starts with J and ends with ava. < 1387043958 364556 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: although I did find the mind bending factor of J very interesting. I would not mind being payed to write it. < 1387043990 302123 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Right; it just seems that mroman interpreted it differently, is all. < 1387044062 117603 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044072 450845 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387044072 695884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, Burlesque is really much more J-like than Java-like, at least as far as surface syntax is concerned.) < 1387044073 588792 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: the coolest part i thought was that it was made by the same guy that invented APL. < 1387044075 496125 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387044088 226883 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: wb < 1387044090 218940 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: APL is awesome. < 1387044091 403016 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thanks. < 1387044094 709949 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387044100 217092 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly i have never played with it < 1387044110 850870 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the pleasure of playing with it one time. < 1387044127 970416 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you have the special keyboard and all? < 1387044131 33980 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1387044132 736638 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1387044137 530706 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was freaky. < 1387044137 736295 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very cool < 1387044141 139697 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sure, lol < 1387044193 877310 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the furthest ive gone so far with J is writing an 8-neighbor cellular automata with user settable rules < 1387044217 122069 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never played with J. < 1387044219 765065 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a fantastic feeling seeing that the entire algorithm was expressed in 3 rather short lines of code < 1387044232 521068 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ain't it though? < 1387044238 186709 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest (of about 150 lines) was all gui stuff, lol < 1387044240 945633 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1387044254 66197 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :languages like that are lovely. < 1387044276 433186 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, i wish more people would use them < 1387044302 645693 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although a lot of features have been ported over to other languages < 1387044323 837260 :realz!~pinky@pool-98-113-152-65.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044324 43558 :realz!~pinky@pool-98-113-152-65.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Changing host < 1387044324 43721 :realz!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044325 131558 :qlkzy_!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044330 697207 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which as you know, is the usual tale great lang. < 1387044334 625320 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :langs* < 1387044336 104630 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044340 344389 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044344 325475 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044345 600605 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044347 724759 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044348 404575 :drlemon!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044349 34162 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044349 541410 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044349 904104 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044350 921216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044353 643213 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: aww, no info? < 1387044360 494971 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044374 233822 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh damn. < 1387044378 18617 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot of people. < 1387044382 878879 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, that was interesting < 1387044384 210939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044396 572496 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm off to play Tribes: Ascend. < 1387044402 689399 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :[li]|Gaming < 1387044408 566108 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044414 196507 :[li]|Gaming!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep it classy. < 1387044414 491389 :_46bit!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-numknkfimsesjlvw JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044421 79817 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[li]|Gaming: right back at you < 1387044421 666481 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: what? < 1387044430 569781 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044434 822086 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: on your proccessor/computer system < 1387044447 961401 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything open source? < 1387044454 21027 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com QUIT :Changing host < 1387044454 227347 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044464 265498 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387044465 252366 :_46bit!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-numknkfimsesjlvw QUIT :Changing host < 1387044465 458469 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044471 448450 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bitbucket.org/mroman_/emulathor < 1387044479 642279 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: thanks! < 1387044496 772174 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but again: It's not science or useful at all < 1387044501 442287 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sciency < 1387044529 375852 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no worries < 1387044537 894704 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just interested in absorbing as much as possible < 1387044698 844737 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387044914 168921 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the compiler is an ugly mess < 1387044925 227374 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... most of it is < 1387045031 815222 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn32-170.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387045034 10417 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :People need to write emulators in Rust < 1387045075 471083 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or haskell < 1387045095 21736 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: lol, most code is :D < 1387045098 974211 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Plain English < 1387045156 592009 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION brain 'splodes.
< 1387045169 176718 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many ambiguities in english < 1387045193 932591 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387045195 32840 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:18:49] http://www.osmosian.com/ < 1387045195 239026 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:18:54] I HATE THEM SO MUCH < 1387045197 81513 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaargh < 1387045233 875503 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really Plain English is basically the real version of that feminist language < 1387045255 682464 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: omg, i saw that shit.. < 1387045256 306758 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is based on a Philosophy and it is awful < 1387045273 139465 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still have the Plain English compiler < 1387045276 630618 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even that is terrible < 1387045359 898565 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387045361 530832 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*downloads the manifesto* what is that font? are they expecting me to read this? < 1387045378 129559 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes I am < 1387045386 3771 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have an exam on that manifesto in one hour < 1387045388 633014 :atrapado!~dd@219.82.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387045390 498522 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I won't. < 1387045392 182434 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: https://en.wikipedia.com/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo is a perfect example < 1387045434 919371 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the had had had sentence < 1387045446 391855 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We believe that the convoluted object-oriented approach — together with the byzantine "C" programming language and all of its derivatives — can be removed from common usage within the next ten years" < 1387045452 427769 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :James while Johns had had had had had had < 1387045461 605827 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: yes, with haskell :D < 1387045464 863053 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This manifesto was written in 2006 < 1387045471 111589 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only three years left guys! < 1387045475 256176 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd better pick up < 1387045475 462794 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: wow, yeah. im reading through it right now < 1387045480 532352 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1387045529 39980 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also here is their sample program : http://pastebin.com/Ud8z8f7e < 1387045552 270391 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You think hunting down a semicolon was bullshit? < 1387045556 228161 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine debugging that code < 1387045592 920007 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... < 1387045593 409781 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\or is not plain english < 1387045598 219704 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: ugh, yeah i just downloaded the sample.zip.. this looks almost like LOLCODE < 1387045599 461629 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's 'a counter' < 1387045602 521530 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's 'the counter' < 1387045619 195449 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best part, by the way < 1387045619 860571 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what < 1387045622 780049 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the self compiler < 1387045624 904075 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to allocate memory myself? < 1387045630 917587 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Allocate memory for the work' < 1387045641 540777 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because despite their loud vocalization about everything being in plain english < 1387045646 57680 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have to allocate memory myself I might as well stick to C < 1387045649 329689 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The self compiler is still full of assembly code < 1387045673 734496 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: yeah, this look like a really bad case of the cult of the begginner. < 1387045690 703689 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting never the less < 1387045709 913191 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not what i would ever want to use < 1387045732 669503 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once in a while, I go back to this site < 1387045736 299897 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever I want to get mad < 1387045741 118774 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1387045762 971590 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The works are some works." < 1387045772 25918 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much more understandable than C! < 1387045777 505292 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: yeah, i just saw that. what does that do? < 1387045784 115120 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck if I know < 1387045786 247907 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want < 1387045789 110265 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387045789 990245 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the manual somewhere < 1387045794 432898 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But beware < 1387045798 378596 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The manual is also terrible < 1387045802 166447 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and will make your blood boil < 1387045803 387525 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i downloaded the zip, but no. ive had enough, lol < 1387045839 135180 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, satisfy my morbid curiosity. ive got some time to waste < 1387045865 800691 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prepares for boiling blood.
< 1387045882 586079 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well there it is : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19940612/instructions.pdf < 1387045886 142574 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks! < 1387045943 922012 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When you start me up, I will quickly take over your screen" < 1387045953 65530 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much like a terrorist < 1387045963 277652 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, the GUI is full fucking screen < 1387045966 870670 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is grey and terrible < 1387045982 841792 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im debating if i should pull out wine and see how bad it looks < 1387046024 922728 :SBoyo!~kvirc@154.5.185.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387046037 301376 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, this program is not powerfull enough to conquer xmonad. im glad it did not full screen on me < 1387046050 307150 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im pretty sure its not going to work though, lol < 1387046094 766473 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, just a black screen < 1387046101 331617 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The full pack is here : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19940612/cal-3037.rar < 1387046146 407486 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really I don't think the language is that bad < 1387046160 544618 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it was just some project to make like a language to teach children about computer programming < 1387046163 229131 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be fine < 1387046171 748380 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they are so fucking proud of themselves < 1387046243 677923 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't do nested IFs. Nested ifs are a sure sign of unclear thinking, and that is something that I will not countenance. If you think this cramps your style too much, read my code to see how it's done. Then think again." < 1387046274 867996 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't do EQUATIONS. I do a little infix math, and I support "calculated fields", but almost all the code you write will be strictly procedural in nature. As the Osmosians always say, "The universe is an algorithm, not a formula." Words you should take to heart. Especially if you're a math-head." < 1387046283 984803 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :To say it in plain english: bullshit. < 1387046315 727050 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kinda want to hire them and tell them I want to get a math program < 1387046319 660774 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like heavy math shit < 1387046329 691484 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10.000 x 10.000 matrix calculation type thing < 1387046338 545836 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: i would have to disagree. iirc i read an article about a high school teacher switching to fp langs and his students understanding it much easier. < 1387046354 129066 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I didn't say it would be a good idea < 1387046359 829191 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would be an okay project < 1387046362 405744 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohlol < 1387046362 836973 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if they fail < 1387046364 870369 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1387046381 443134 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the fact that they want to get rid of all other languages and think theirs is the one true language < 1387046386 536485 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its good to test the limits of what a programming language is, but dont bullshit the PLT community. < 1387046388 841250 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is oh so terrible < 1387046391 816342 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1387046394 880863 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387046425 791296 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately, this is the first time I've heard of them. I wish it will be the last. < 1387046479 322778 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387046496 362527 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :About once a year I rediscover them and rant a bit < 1387046522 442516 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well please stop doing that then < 1387046531 817265 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387046537 717755 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw :( < 1387046567 922491 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1387046568 128566 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1387046583 326831 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, are you mocking a stupid language < 1387046592 544040 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes I am < 1387046593 24950 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo that's the true spirit of #esoteric < 1387046608 460629 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :May I use this moment to convince everybody to use Burlesque. kthxbye < 1387046617 564190 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: lol < 1387046621 45021 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the most creepiest language around < 1387046638 708909 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/burlesque/rwb2.pdf <- awesome to parse log files in it < 1387046652 730489 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it creepy < 1387046687 390020 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got a creepy name < 1387046689 937412 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Burlesque <- This? < 1387046695 692188 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burlesque isn't creepy! < 1387046708 219025 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: oh, i see what you did there XD < 1387046745 749327 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what would be creepy? < 1387046748 287872 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And compact? < 1387046751 115109 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Zalgo language < 1387046754 859114 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zalgo? < 1387046757 977467 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: yeah, ive actually already seen burlesque. i like it. but im also one of those weirdoes that likes factor. < 1387046767 990444 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://eeemo.net/ < 1387046786 30762 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tͮ̎̄̏͗͑͑̈͛͌̾̓ͤ̐ͭ͗҉͕͙̣̬͖̟̤̳͍͈̞͔̠̻͞ͅḩ̡̝̺̪͓̩̹̰̹̩̺̿́ͩ̊̑͋͢ͅṵ͍̳̗̜͖͖͕̭̻̰͛̾̑̿̕͡s̻̙̫͚̣͕̙͚ͥ̽ͫ͒ͥ͂̋̚͘͜l͛͗̃̊̊̓̈́ͯ̄҉҉҉̬͈̤͉̟̯̟͞y̎ͮ̊̌̂̽̏ͤ̾ͧ͂ͯͪ̾̌̚͘͘҉̘̣͍̜͖̠̳̜͙̝̼̥̲́ < 1387046875 760871 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorate is haveing just the "fuck up the middle" checkbox selected. just enough embelleshment to be interesting, but not unreadable < 1387046897 330637 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: good job < 1387046901 943337 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just messed up my terminal < 1387046905 679510 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387046915 443762 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately mIRC doesn't allow such foolishness < 1387046921 457670 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Characters don't leave their lines! < 1387046932 831842 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :With unicode and putty < 1387046941 470985 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi just doesnt render it properly.. i really should set up my fonts.. < 1387046958 978087 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can pretty much do such trickery as injecting text so that I read it as if somebody else wrote it < 1387046960 599209 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1387046963 755050 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of Unicode < 1387046969 260883 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should implement Arithmetica < 1387046981 605673 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Slereah/Arithmetica < 1387046982 802290 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, as opposed to mathematica? < 1387046984 716830 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kinda dropped it < 1387046988 375482 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1387047328 477218 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: You saw it on esolangs.org? < 1387047333 985456 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are you golfing on golf.shinh.org? < 1387047365 120428 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is it called Αριθµητικών or Arithmetica < 1387047384 424979 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Αριθµητικών < 1387047398 347827 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I call it Arithmetica for the barbarians reading it < 1387047404 922730 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those dirty romans! < 1387047410 505484 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Arithmetikon" seems closer < 1387047413 392560 :SBoyo!~kvirc@154.5.185.114 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387047440 571703 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arithmetica is closer to latin phonology though < 1387047495 420758 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Why is gs2 still not ready ;)? < 1387047508 792415 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should work on that!! < 1387047518 870969 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: yup, i saw it on esolangs. i havent golfed yet, but ill try burlesque if i ever do < 1387047629 383928 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: The osmosian compiler is not available for download? < 1387047680 549439 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I don't really get the point of programming in plain english < 1387047695 421392 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming languages are supposed to be "formal" and "expressive" < 1387047719 114552 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman : The compiler used to be available, but they pulled it < 1387047722 640857 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I still have it! < 1387047723 527806 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19940612/cal-3037.rar < 1387047847 989149 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :implementing this stuff is easy but i don't wanna document it :( < 1387047887 844439 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: couldnt have said it better myself < 1387047916 978394 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well if you want to know the reason why they did it < 1387047920 202575 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read their "manifesto" < 1387047940 945004 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that you put the word in quotes < 1387048078 194038 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to sound alarmist but i believe that language was created by Hitler's ghost < 1387048084 735861 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it definitely does deserve being in quotes < 1387048086 686585 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387048122 423462 :cimaster!~cimaster@193.105.154.68 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387048127 731592 :cimaster!~cimaster@193.105.154.68 QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1387048129 371948 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldnt it be funny if the individual frequented #esoteric? < 1387048155 21985 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably qualifies as an esoteric language < 1387048184 431211 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1387048240 133816 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way < 1387048244 316160 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their old site was much worse < 1387048290 879358 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://web.archive.org/web/20131214191118/http://www.osmosian.com/page04.png < 1387048562 781203 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387048571 448249 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it get any worse? < 1387048583 125989 :atrapado!~dd@219.82.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com QUIT :Changing host < 1387048583 332845 :atrapado!~dd@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1387048603 900323 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, that's an interesting line to see out of context when you join a channel < 1387048613 914433 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387048625 805209 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there have been quite a few < 1387048648 143413 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: www.osmosian.com <- join the fun < 1387048720 270241 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were talking about ol' Plain English < 1387048723 659674 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this in particular : < 1387048724 776090 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://web.archive.org/web/20131214191118/http://www.osmosian.com/page04.png < 1387048756 758070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1387048910 804855 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont get this guy's hardon for claude monet. < 1387048916 351259 :begemott!~begemott@195.78.108.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387048927 458426 :begemott!~begemott@195.78.108.138 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387048960 935266 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1387048984 838664 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387049146 129138 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im guessing this guy sees himself as some programming ARTEEST < 1387049425 78226 :heroux_!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1387049469 605303 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VdZR3deNdI < 1387049518 960043 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387049543 260316 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387049543 683340 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387049547 900033 :heroux_!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl NICK :heroux < 1387049632 901905 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does feathercoin exist? Except to give ais523 nightmares < 1387049646 447123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't have an objection to the word "feather" < 1387049738 762712 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, well the block chain has been found to be fundamentally broken recently < 1387049759 38865 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :peercoin actually sounds sensible < 1387049762 889672 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD, ooh, do tell < 1387049808 239206 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :laymans article about the topic by one of the guys that wrote the paper with a link to the paper in the article --> http://hackingdistributed.com/2013/11/04/bitcoin-is-broken/ < 1387050012 857122 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1387050013 897050 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"under the best of circumstances, at least 2/3rds of the participating nodes have to be honest to protect against our attack. But achieving this 2/3 bound is going to be difficult in practice. We outline a practical fix to the protocol that is easy to deploy and will guard against the attack as long as 3/4ths of the miners are honest. - See more at: http://hackingdistributed.com/2013/11/04/bitcoin-is-broken/#sthash.cF1z946n.dpuf" < 1387050031 826232 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I losing my mind, or is 3/4 > 2/3? < 1387050039 429853 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I'm misreading it < 1387050064 393250 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-32.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387050084 536754 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yeah, that confused me for a second too < 1387050156 607288 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :x-1/x probably has lim->inf = 1 < 1387050208 22934 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: agreed < 1387050265 163412 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the derivation of both is 1 < 1387050277 766433 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1387050400 517639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We're looking for people that want to sell Bitcoins on the Bittylicious platform" < 1387050424 620922 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Our proposed fix raises the threshold to 25% if universally adopted. And, while there may be other fixes, no fix can raise it above 33%. - See more at: http://hackingdistributed.com/2013/11/04/bitcoin-is-broken/#sthash.cF1z946n.dpuf" < 1387050431 658635 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much clearer than that other sentence < 1387050591 786215 :[li]|Gaming!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387050841 774871 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The comments are just... ugh < 1387050982 706557 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 2^8 PM :D < 1387051134 768425 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387051170 801421 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387051257 456349 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I tried to distill the information content of your posts but ended up with the empty set. Here's a gentle hint: if your arguments do not invoke math, they are not going to be persuasive, at least, not to technical people. < 1387051261 447709 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this. < 1387051279 388222 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguments about what? < 1387051331 257216 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i wont post the comment. its pretty long and vacuous. just search a snippet of what i just pasted and look at the comment above it. < 1387051364 754385 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're talking about this bitcoin stuff? < 1387051368 227541 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387051396 60556 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: mhm. about the link i posted a little while ago < 1387051430 822009 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387051519 928598 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387051589 224416 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387051728 287149 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look, all you're doing is a syntactic match. You're finding words that sound the same in a random walk through concept space. < 1387051735 26974 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, this man is on a roll. < 1387051750 22289 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so stealing that line. < 1387051799 954567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :word salad < 1387051860 232511 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but it accurately describes what the person being replied to was doing. as well as this is something i encounter a lot and the man put it so succinctly. < 1387051885 446767 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice paper, though they do not show that there strategy is optimal (and thus, the actual required pool sizes may be smaller.) < 1387051968 39378 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i dont think an proof of optimality is neccessary, just that an unfair advantage can be gained through the described process. < 1387052016 816954 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, except for the claimed security against pools of 25% size with their fix. < 1387052087 555078 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should tell him that then < 1387052095 866157 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I didn't mean to distract from the key insight, which is, essentially, that immediately publishing a found block is not necessarily the best possible strategy.) < 1387052133 255996 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right right, very good point though < 1387052429 745827 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387052433 799647 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1387052444 304243 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ceiling < 1387052704 407019 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387052960 603929 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387053513 320017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sup < 1387053513 320202 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: okay, that's fair enough. < 1387053528 128333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: too much is never enough < 1387053528 335079 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but i'll humor you with random comments < 1387053534 842561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: for a nominal fee? < 1387053535 93681 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that could work, but there seems to be the fbi field office, or sing sing, or something < 1387053548 43975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's going up the river for a good long time < 1387053548 285149 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: from the eight language polyglot page: " 25 jan 2001 richard stallman the proper name is " fnord" < 1387053559 743799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot knows the True Name of RMS < 1387054100 534474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was scary relevant. < 1387054111 317115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the initial part. < 1387054152 658450 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn32-170.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387054252 741203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes fungot
< 1387055357 776238 :sky__!~sky@f054177001.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387055403 833320 :sky__!~sky@f054177001.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387055609 215808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nng, Chromium has somehow stopped making "g" a working keyword for a Google search. If I switch the keyword to something else (like "gg"), it seems to work; but not when it's just "g". < 1387055660 996168 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "g" works if Google is not set as the default search engine. < 1387055670 115458 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can somehow have no default search engine. < 1387055701 754799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't seem to be possible to delete the one set default. < 1387056022 448655 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could not use chrome < 1387056048 774970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't quite understand why it won't work, though. < 1387056092 20727 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems so very specific to "g"; if Google is set as the default search engine, "g" doesn't seem to work as a keyword for anything else; but other single letters (like "q") are no problem. < 1387056250 885424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I added a new search engine called "Gurgle", with the keyword "g" and a Google search URL, and set that as the default. That seems to work. < 1387056269 82969 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the slight cosmetic issue that the bar now says "search Gurgle" instead of "search Google", but... < 1387056298 124328 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe I should've just switched to that duck thing?) < 1387056539 275878 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to develop a language where each statement contains a bunch of parts that can be evaluated in any order < 1387056562 108603 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you could go < 1387056664 590727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like a feature and not a bug fungot < 1387056667 284632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, fizzie < 1387056688 721725 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :switch to duckduckgo. < 1387056694 733627 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's much better. < 1387056695 800368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two: whenever fungot's not responding, all the other characters should be asking "Where's fungot?" < 1387056697 424193 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :destVector.pushBack(v), v=srcVector[n], !map.has(v) < 1387056730 96914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's fungot? < 1387056730 380975 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: calculation of fnord fnord on. i want the old one is so that threads are a bitch < 1387056731 51552 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this means "add all contents of srcVector that isn't in map into destVector" < 1387056733 93048 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right there. < 1387056739 602135 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the compiler would compile it to < 1387056765 68875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot doesn't like me anymore? :( < 1387056765 321434 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fnord annoying that way. and i never seen okoing before... < 1387056783 860204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: There's a limit of no more than four consecutive replies, which I'm sure you're aware of. < 1387056798 642550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i? < 1387056807 603372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I am now < 1387056820 374634 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure that was covered on fungot 101. < 1387056820 577687 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: not a quine: < 1387056823 236991 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for(int n=0; n. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04irc.dal.net.) < 1387059411 864410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VipSS: are you a bot? < 1387059483 776471 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :yap < 1387059567 437467 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387059603 339668 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387059738 633520 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora fiori fio < 1387059788 607297 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you agree ? < 1387059799 193647 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387059845 51292 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387059877 685379 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387060049 604930 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387060117 607681 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :VipSS, hello how are you < 1387060177 634505 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1387060300 977942 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, meet VipSS < 1387060301 221582 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: wonder if i can find about it < 1387060382 177125 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387060402 795259 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi phantom , thx, d you ? < 1387060547 810864 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey can we find a drink ?! i am ;) cheerrzz < 1387060608 86762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VipSS: do you understand what this channel's about? < 1387060628 455935 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :noo < 1387060663 478951 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me < 1387060686 663621 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about programming languages, specifically ones that are designed to be weird rather than useful < 1387060713 19778 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387060722 279116 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Client Quit < 1387060732 902718 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :VipSS, ais523 is lying, it's hardly ever about that < 1387060759 47481 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387060759 506443 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, it's supposed to be about that, though < 1387060777 619996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I thought our rule atm was that people have to be at least interested in being ontopic on occasion < 1387060784 437135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, otherwise it'd just be #defocus < 1387060812 42774 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, yes, but primarily it serves as a centring point for all the other things we talk about < 1387060897 591904 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean hacking and virus programs ! and you can talk about solutions ! < 1387060910 260896 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :might as well < 1387060930 85166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VipSS: not really < 1387060944 640586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's some overlap, but it's mostly about admiring things like ASCII-only code < 1387061006 832542 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387061188 212659 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will tell my opinion about, after ... you know < 1387061273 225470 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :joking , it is none of my interest , sorry guys < 1387061315 597787 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is it only about esoteric programming languages, not about esoteric code in other programming languages? < 1387061351 668392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it's not really a stretch to make it about esoprograming generally < 1387061385 723112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually this is (or used to be) a good channel for me to ask when I have bizarre programming problems in general < 1387061398 877519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it tends to solve the problem you claim to have rather than the problem it thinks you have < 1387061404 645478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes I have some very weird problems < 1387061407 371633 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh sure, but I'm asking what epcifically counts as on topic < 1387061442 905646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember going to #ocaml with a question that boiled down to "I have a sandbox that works like X for my marking script, now I need to convert a char to a string, but because of my sandbox I can't use the standard library, any ideas?" < 1387061455 825564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, the solution is that strings are mutable in OCaml < 1387061463 277918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you start with an arbitrary one-character string < 1387061470 388354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then concatenate it to the null string to create a fresh string < 1387061475 78404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then mutate the fresh string < 1387061484 111515 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the #ocaml solution? < 1387061499 450872 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: we were working on it together, that solution was what we came up with collectively < 1387061509 635666 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1387061513 340497 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else mentioned using the standard library via the FFI rather than directly < 1387061519 116657 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't pay much attention to that < 1387061525 599399 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but one of the students escaped the sandbox using it < 1387061531 812625 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1387061532 384327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so perhaps I should have done < 1387061559 279111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but because I'm paranoid, there were two sandboxes < 1387061565 593987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they didn't escape the outside one, so all was well < 1387061596 286803 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at what level where the two sandboxes? the ocaml compiler and the operating system? < 1387061651 438861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one was at the parser level, it rejected uses of unauthorized libraries via refusing to parse them < 1387061654 769374 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387061659 514572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other was Linux's syscall-based sandbox < 1387061677 661827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that turns off all syscalls but reads and writes to files that were already opened in advance, exits, and returning from signal handlers < 1387061739 308973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sysadmins actually set up a VM for that, because it wasn't compiled into the kernel on the standard Linux build at our organization < 1387061744 750616 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387061769 364885 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in html, I can use to have a server-side image map that submits a form, right? < 1387061810 74742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, no idea < 1387061816 756407 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can believe that something like that's possible < 1387061819 148949 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but don't know the syntax < 1387061827 393881 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try later < 1387061862 463764 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's clearly possible but the question is whether it's possible without javascript < 1387061886 572601 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the html standard seems to say it's possilbe, but I'll have to test how much it works in browsers < 1387062117 356099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it's on http://caniuse.com < 1387062130 313740 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387062149 753700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps not < 1387062183 270556 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nice webpage, I haven't heared of that < 1387062211 735173 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not mine < 1387062418 980746 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check what that says about extra svg blending modes like http://dev.w3.org/fxtf/compositing-1/ < 1387062494 677243 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do those have only the more expensive multiply and screen modes instead of supporting the faster add and subtract as well though? more expensive when alpha is involved that is. < 1387062526 679798 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, http://caniuse.com/ doesn't mentino these < 1387063252 258100 :atrapado!~dd@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387064361 651136 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387064869 94764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1387065195 195165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :[Just (), Nothing] >>= repeat | Set the controls for the heart of the sun | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1387065243 592012 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [Just (), Nothing] >>= repeat < 1387065244 735377 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Jus... < 1387065255 962966 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm? < 1387065262 883004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? < 1387065312 645535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hint: compare to previous topic) < 1387065341 753845 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1387065342 645545 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lost it :( < 1387065353 740465 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :su015315 -: NOTHING IS BEYOND OUR REACH < 1387065355 724454 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :su015315 +: [Just (), Nothing] >>= repeat < 1387065357 756816 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(diff) < 1387065360 611144 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1387065431 13382 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww. lol. < 1387065440 767494 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOTHING IS BEYOND OUR REACH. < 1387065494 619286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t repeat < 1387065495 647540 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> [a] < 1387065496 139681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1387065506 867126 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when was colon lambdabot syntax? < 1387065514 57439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since always < 1387065522 569756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only for :t and :k, though < 1387065531 315630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1387065545 623791 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so trying to understand that work < 1387065573 960973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mentally expand it into "do {x <- [Just (), Nothing]; repeat x}", is that the correct resugaring? < 1387065583 421480 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier to just think of it as < 1387065590 403400 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :concatMap repeat [Just (), Nothing] < 1387065592 349965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1387065609 225869 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric := repeat (Just ()) ++ repeat Nothing < 1387065635 440269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, ofc < 1387065658 651388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeat's being interpreted as a List monad action < 1387065667 557346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [] >>= repeat < 1387065668 715735 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [] < 1387065669 221525 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be empty list < 1387065670 696676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387065675 612556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I think I understand this < 1387065688 669838 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [repeat x | x <- [Just (), Nothing]] < 1387065689 753537 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Ju... < 1387065710 137728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: not quite < 1387065723 595992 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. concat that < 1387065729 713720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [y | x <- [Just (), Nothing], y <- repeat x] < 1387065730 811454 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Jus... < 1387065743 64082 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387065743 956338 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did Haskell get rid of monad comprehensions? < 1387065748 867017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they were just more complex than do-notation? < 1387065790 918546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it was all part of that "making types simpler for newbies" stuff in the transition from haskell 1.4 to haskell 98 < 1387065796 563318 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they're not very useful and make things unnecessarily complicated < 1387065801 110174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. map used to be fmap < 1387065807 920123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap < 1387065809 5615 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1387065820 297267 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and List is a functor < 1387065820 795812 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, unnecessarily generalized < 1387065821 565527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there's an extension to reenable them now, though. < 1387065822 948018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah, that works < 1387065868 308368 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like how fmap looks usually :( it's weird < 1387065880 38804 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i often catch myself writing <$> but that's so "perl" < 1387065888 898769 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1387065926 329543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm wondering how <$> parses in Perl < 1387065946 435812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess as "<" and "$>" < 1387065965 412834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where $> is, umm, effective UID?) < 1387065981 756599 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl-e print $> < 1387065985 778060 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :5000 < 1387065993 989172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl-e print 2 <$> < 1387065995 580483 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1387066024 794116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`interp perl print "i think this should work, unless it broke" < 1387066026 407902 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec: 4: ibin/perl: not found < 1387066035 697598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think. < 1387066037 336000 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl-e print <$> < 1387066038 634688 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Final $ should be \$ or $name at -e line 1, within string \ syntax error at -e line 1, near "print <$>" \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. < 1387066048 55661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, that makes a /lot/ of sense < 1387066066 669536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't interpolate $> into a literal read from filehandle for the same reason you can't interpolate $" into a string < 1387066070 173193 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl-e print "$"" < 1387066071 774700 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :String found where operator expected at -e line 1, at end of line \ (Missing semicolon on previous line?) \ Final $ should be \$ or $name at -e line 1, within string \ syntax error at -e line 1, near "print "$"" \ Can't find string terminator '"' anywhere before EOF at -e line 1. < 1387066074 421125 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1387066076 302085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387066078 285949 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, map used to be fmap? < 1387066079 144833 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering how that would parse < 1387066087 218887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is $" < 1387066088 625807 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :And monad comprehensions were actually a standard thing? < 1387066098 978633 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl-e print $" < 1387066100 507797 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387066103 170668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Haskell Committee: I liked their earlier work better < 1387066185 839974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think $" is to do with interpolating an array into a string < 1387066207 211220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl-e my @x = qw/1 2 3/; local $" = '-'; print "@x"; < 1387066208 840154 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1-2-3 < 1387066210 269273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1387066216 566536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let {-# LANGUAGE MonadComprehensions #-} {- doubt it works but worth a try -} < 1387066216 755267 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: Parse error: EOF < 1387066279 15241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let {-# LANGUAGE MonadComprehensions #-}; test = [x | x <- Just "test"] < 1387066279 931955 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:150:18: < 1387066280 120721 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[t0]' with actual type `Maybe [Char]' < 1387066280 120890 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the return type of a call of `Just' < 1387066280 120986 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: Just "test" < 1387066280 121079 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : In a stmt of a list comprehension: x <- Just "test" < 1387066352 250991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it has to disable language extensions for security anyhow. < 1387067985 464996 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1387069204 500149 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387070070 235787 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387070392 626242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER O < 1387070394 801898 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​о < 1387070407 598637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie With the slight cosmetic issue that the bar now says "search Gurgle" instead of "search Google", but... <-- try with cyrillic o (о) maybe? < 1387070407 807512 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387070420 380709 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode GREEK SMALL LETTER OMICRON < 1387070421 896620 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ο < 1387070425 527755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good o too < 1387070545 176906 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-163.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387071156 100450 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387071252 168333 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-213-163.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387071426 876596 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1387071878 740158 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387071891 99684 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387072297 768331 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9974-PAXN-6252 Why does DirectX install with every game? […] the only way to distribute them is to run the installer, that's also the only supported method from Microsoft to check that the correct version installed. Trying to manually check for the correct versions is extremely complicated […] In addition, the dependencies and required checks may < 1387072299 732267 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :change in each new version of the D3DX runtime. The code to check correctly and repair broken installs all exists in the installer and running it is a guarantee that the correct binaries will exist when you run the game < 1387072364 786207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : whoa, whoa, whoa, the game of life is only from 1970? <-- how old did you think conway was, anyway? < 1387072420 415081 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1387072437 318671 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure how old conway is. he has done a lot of things. < 1387072438 978389 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is he alive? < 1387072448 219255 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-32.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387072452 481369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1387072462 61802 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good for him. < 1387072490 969319 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, an erdos number of one. of course he's done a lot of shit then < 1387072563 167065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH DOUBLE ACUTE < 1387072564 853248 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ő < 1387072578 121727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there are _some_ people with an erdős number of one who only did that one paper with erdős. < 1387072585 658298 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1387072610 214929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :conway is not one of them. < 1387072656 354380 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cőnway < 1387072681 354671 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387072693 856225 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was about to ask for a list of everyone with an erdos number of one but then remembered the entire point is that he cowrote a shitfuck of papers < 1387072718 556213 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :511, apparently < 1387072721 2541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there's a list over at the erdős number project site < 1387072792 399876 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, some neat stats here < 1387072796 68909 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«The five people with more than 200 coauthors are Paul Erdös (of course) with 509 (although the MR data actually show only 504, missing some coauthors of very minor works or works before 1940, when MR was started), FRANK HARARY (Erdös number 1) with 268, Yuri Alekseevich Mitropolskii (Erdös number 3) with 244, NOGA ALON (Erdös number 1) with 227, and Hari M. Srivastava (Erdös number 2) with 244.» < 1387072808 294906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think conway is special for doing _both_ very deep and very popular math < 1387072814 231360 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have never heard of the others actually < 1387072817 58331 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes it's great < 1387072839 345985 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always thought of conway as that guy who did Life and Doomsday and then i found out, oh, no, he's really a trillion times smarter than me < 1387072912 915784 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" a person who has collaborated but does not find herself in the Erdös component of C has on the average collaborated with only one or two people" < 1387072949 108737 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387072949 297510 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Client Quit < 1387072972 529597 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird to think about the average erdos number increasing over time even though it's super obvious < 1387073037 42406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's technically occasionally decreasing too < 1387073087 478499 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i wonder what the data would look like for academia in general < 1387073188 363322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it go up whenever anyone is born, and down the rest of the time? < 1387073248 26222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you only counting people with a non-infinite value? < 1387073258 819814 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-infinite, i suppose < 1387073275 169734 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might be overestimating the effect of time given that the 'maximum' number is 13 according to the enp < 1387073332 313454 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :each individual person's goes down over time < 1387073335 558076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that conway was born on doomsday
< 1387073337 816328 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1387073346 733122 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically i want to know the erdos number of edward gibbon. < 1387073369 299958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… I almost certainly have an Erdős number, but it'll be hard to determine it automatically because I have such a common name < 1387073406 227106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: try your collaborators unless they're too many? < 1387073415 808079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, probably the best option < 1387073418 511821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only have two < 1387073432 809585 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :enp also notes that collaboration has gone up over time so the farther back in time i go the more unconnected components there will be, probably < 1387073498 953185 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still amused by the fact i can look up an ethologist on academictree and trace his lineage back to paul of tarsus D < 1387073501 967041 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:D < 1387073511 378459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it goes up if someone dies who has lower than average, and down in the opposite case < 1387073524 682716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can go down whenever a paper is published < 1387073530 219061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387073538 522562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and up when someone new joins the field < 1387073557 228907 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see, darwin collaborated with captain fitzroy, now who did fitzroy collaborate with, < 1387073558 165382 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess people who die will tend to have a below-average number due to being older than the average researcher on average < 1387073561 55593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus having produced more papers < 1387073574 517849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not counting infinites, so someone joining the field can still go either way. < 1387073617 866536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as the average is larger than 1+minimum < 1387073633 32478 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i want biology metrics help < 1387073710 308202 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like are things different since mathematical discovery is generally different from bug discovery < 1387073889 364751 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-32.psoas.suomi.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1387073965 213839 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whut'cha discussin' in here, esolang. < 1387073978 838403 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erdos numbers < 1387074091 505993 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh. < 1387074093 992153 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :erdos numbers.. < 1387074136 486715 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have to wonder what mine is. < 1387074154 328892 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine's infinity. nice&tidy < 1387074178 740941 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :countable or uncountable < 1387074210 524719 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of a nonsensical question i think? < 1387074265 415294 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. < 1387074404 701677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :countable, clearly < 1387074418 222293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or arguably 14 < 1387074423 828947 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387074439 246355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: http://www.ams.org/mathscinet/collaborationDistance.html < 1387074599 734199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hm i tried your name and it claims to find several but the selection menu is buggy, perhaps it's because it's too large. < 1387074618 201992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: try Dan Ghica, Satnam Singh (although the latter name may still be ambiguous) < 1387074620 208787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then add one < 1387074656 437919 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387074861 925202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :4+1 = 5 for the first, none for the second < 1387074921 581219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of just S. or S. + another initial, though < 1387075080 189848 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387075131 18330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i think the menu wasn't actually buggy i was just confused by it not opening a new page directly on clicking the item < 1387075237 802264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, unless you've collaborated with either John R. Blake or Albert John Petkay, neither option is you < 1387075362 314059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oklofok *MWAHAHA* i now know your middle name! < 1387075362 550993 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387075476 889755 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my erdos number is 5?! < 1387075481 203506 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haah. < 1387075510 998059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oklofok unless mathscinet is confusing you with someone else < 1387075511 248305 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387075553 98131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cue him using "oklopol" exclusively for the next 3 years. < 1387075748 762464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i'm finding further evidence that the initial is correct. < 1387075826 249843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aka his university homepage.) < 1387075949 100850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1387075960 537780 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : countable or uncountable < 1387075960 726867 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : kind of a nonsensical question i think? < 1387075960 727026 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : nah. < 1387075971 473060 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1387075975 198341 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it'd be an ordinal right < 1387075998 786430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: but that only implies ais523's 14 < 1387076005 798107 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cardinal. < 1387076021 452183 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not ordinal. < 1387076024 238760 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc. < 1387076038 688911 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1387076039 667364 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1387076041 795988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all cardinals are ordinals unless you're dictatorially opposed to free choice < 1387076047 738130 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1387076056 533622 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cardinals are indexed by ordinals. < 1387076090 129716 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: all cardinals are ordinals < 1387076097 737244 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :choice just affects whether every set has a size < 1387076132 750467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: no you can also use foundation instead < 1387076162 14502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and do something like "a cardinal is the set of all minimal rank sets of that size" < 1387076239 974353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i guess if you have neither, then i don't know how to choose a suitable "witness" for a given cardinality. < 1387076276 722324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a unique one, that is. < 1387076378 826274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm does foundation imply every set is smaller than a beth? < 1387076422 921952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it would. < 1387076622 585641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In ZF, for any cardinals κ and μ, there is an ordinal α such that:" < 1387076623 897252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\kappa \le \beth_{\alpha}(\mu). < 1387076644 853109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-" +" < 1387076659 501263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i take to mean yes < 1387076660 67309 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just thinking that 'infinity' in the context of erdos numbers isn't very setty anyway < 1387076665 45268 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387076670 800401 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: indeed < 1387076684 37849 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i /guess/ you could take it as not reached by incrementing which is like the smallest infinity < 1387076713 935781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more like "maximal element of order", used when taking minimum of empty set. < 1387076721 341054 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i kind of want to see the mathematical collaboration graph < 1387076737 155008 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing says it's small worldy, but are there like, bottlenecks between different fields, say < 1387078437 772727 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387078523 179689 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1387078829 282007 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387079401 675275 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whose stupid idea was it to save note period values in a .MOD file but then convert them to note numbers upon loading? Better would be to play the note periods actually stored instead, but that isn't how it is done. < 1387079443 148893 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : it's a storied format :D < 1387079457 877837 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s3m and later formats don't have that mistake < 1387079564 207974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Yes, they store the note numbers directly; I still think it would make sense to use the stored note periods to play the notes rather than converting between them, although this makes arpeggio effect difficult (although storing the arpeggio as individual notes instead would solve this too) < 1387079604 74873 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then how do you transpose a sample? < 1387079617 26896 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :go through all of the periods using that sample and change them? < 1387079639 738458 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you'd still need to turn them into notes to show them in the editor < 1387079740 21669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you would transpose a sample in that way, if you need to deal with the existing file, I suppose < 1387079774 417406 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't intend to read them to show in the editor anyways; I intend to use a compiler to produce the .MOD or whatever which is then played back using OpenMPT or MegaZeux or whatever other software would play them < 1387079809 858577 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, now you know why notes are stored that way < 1387079838 311423 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MODs/s3ms/etc are also the project file you edit < 1387079852 388480 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not some kind of stripped/compiled output < 1387079898 746846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can load them in various editors, although maybe you do want to produce them with a compiler instead, which would be more useful to do things a bit differently < 1387079947 560036 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :format is bad for doing thing is was not made for < 1387079984 644100 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ppl who produced music with a compiler went for some other formats < 1387080024 684934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However many programs expect to use .MOD or .S3M formats for music < 1387080035 975641 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like register write lists for the target sound chip (like the gym format or at least one of the adlib log formats) < 1387080048 137434 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo: yes, because there are lots of good sounding MODs and S3Ms < 1387080071 906159 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are lots of good sounding MODs and S3Ms because there are good editors for making them :D < 1387080115 655982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :drinking gløgge < 1387080120 986416 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that legal < 1387080131 778196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ain't no law in the water < 1387080154 879608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: *-e < 1387080166 542943 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ain't no law in the watr < 1387080169 131803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, my host mis-spelled it then < 1387080181 16785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia agrees with you < 1387080192 846913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is the danish spelling) < 1387080194 960312 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know of other sound formats, such as .VGM which stores register writes for many sound chips (even more than one at once, and many of them can be doubled), but still I was asking because of programs that expect to use MOD/S3M format, which is why I wanted to write a compiler to create such files < 1387080242 326742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: u want gløgg? < 1387080242 554759 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: not lots, but they don't exist < 1387080267 375673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good, i was briefly wondering if it were the danes who somehow added an e. < 1387080287 371510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they might do such silly things < 1387080315 98975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :danees < 1387080471 372217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the swedes, if being silly, would add an a instead.) < 1387080473 145731 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo : kindof the way it happened is that they were hardware periods at first < 1387080492 345989 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : but then later on someone wrote... I think it was protracker < 1387080502 14355 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which lets you finetune the samples < 1387080541 969311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it's gøød < 1387080548 456465 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to avoid having to reupdate all the periods in the song when you change the finetune in a sample, notes are parsed in that bizarre way < 1387080558 846666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the gløgg is good < 1387080750 551621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is getting drøgged with gløgg < 1387080776 460971 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: OK, though < 1387080785 291743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won't deny it < 1387080788 739742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly just drønk < 1387080794 545657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote dronk < 1387080796 508384 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :724) aim hecker (n): when ur dronk and u pee so bad all over the toilet that ppl make fun of u (corruption of "aim heckler") < 1387080823 866623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now dipping ginger cookies in the gløgg < 1387080826 640381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And which programs support FM instruments in S3M anyways? How many files use that anyways? < 1387080842 864567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(norwegian ø is not too far from english u in that position) < 1387080860 372723 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : I think modplug tracker actually will play the FM channels < 1387080896 533047 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : irl the reason why nobody uses FM channels is that they are out of sync < 1387080899 393864 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :frequency modulation...? < 1387080905 338123 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the original tracker) < 1387080913 173045 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Looking in the samples menu I don't see anything about FM, though < 1387080938 475566 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the sample channels are mixed into a buffer which is played after some time < 1387080948 525989 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the fm channels play instantaneously < 1387080977 522937 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so s3ms are either all FM (I've seen only 2 of those!) or all samples < 1387080984 526859 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(every other s3m!) < 1387081068 95820 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are other formats for FM anyways < 1387081128 513663 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are like 20 different formats for opl2 < 1387081146 922704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :VGM is one of the formats that supports OPL2 and even OPL3 and OPLL < 1387081163 49932 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And you can use all of them in the same file too if you want to) < 1387081299 867321 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in practice s3ms are like MODs but better < 1387081321 828161 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wants http://imgur.com/a/LpuE8 < 1387081671 370549 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because nothing plays the fm instruments because why < 1387082270 389918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe it was a different conway, who knows < 1387083004 804439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1387083012 54466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1387083139 484458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there's another that did/does complex function theory iirc < 1387083192 545396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw the fact that the cantor set is called that is kind of silly < 1387083203 423598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Conway < 1387083220 24009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why silly < 1387083236 463314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, cantor is responsible for quite a lot of sets < 1387083248 928848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most mathematicians are < 1387083254 455396 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the cantor set is The Coolest of them. < 1387083289 86445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: cooler than a raccoon? < 1387083293 944038 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly < 1387083299 65175 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did cantor make a racoon set < 1387083312 976088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :slight clarification, it seems he wrote a _book_ about complex functions, but actual research in functional analysis. < 1387083320 514552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but there was a raccoon here next to me a few minutes ago < 1387083325 554065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. cautious raccoon < 1387083325 935468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that happen < 1387083343 492942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, the raccoon? < 1387083343 734943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.chrisabraham.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/racoon-pope-Sean-Tejaratchi.png < 1387083365 188227 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool there's people arguing that circuits are fundamentally different from programs because fpgas aren't real or something < 1387083374 60861 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice hat < 1387083412 742829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am currently in san francisco but going back south soon < 1387083460 333254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask santa claus for an fpga < 1387083470 144658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how's san francisco < 1387083477 952960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of cold < 1387083481 186250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm outside < 1387083484 83129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hence the raccoon) < 1387083974 792185 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_ and I went to a pet store today kind of by accident < 1387083979 473132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we managed not to buy any cats < 1387083980 763124 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or raccoons < 1387084043 696594 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have raccooons in pet shops? < 1387084053 56497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so < 1387084082 650654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the weird things about Tirana, Albania is that there are about five pet shops on every block < 1387084102 606098 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are these .S3M formats and so on so confusingly designed? < 1387084126 571631 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :historical materialism, zzo < 1387084168 393543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imo your house needs a cat < 1387084174 624594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo cat cafe < 1387084197 311669 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo : because it's just how some dude arranged stuff in a real mode dos program :o < 1387084247 175916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :keepin' it real mode < 1387084292 588247 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like s3m file offsets are real mode segments :D < 1387084326 132836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not talking about those kind of things actually < 1387084374 785593 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that just mean they're in units of 16 bytes? < 1387084395 130025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imo pointless cat cafe < 1387084407 804659 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes < 1387084413 984543 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe n-category cafe should open a physical frnachise < 1387084429 335102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :topless pointology < 1387084453 771307 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But rather I mean the way channel mapping works, and how some effects are ignored on tick 0, and so on < 1387084641 733731 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is that because it takes one tick to set up the effect? < 1387084654 712063 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't know why. < 1387084659 924313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :♫ < 1387084732 561196 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey zzo38 what do you think of i2s < 1387084741 130010 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387084745 430786 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what that is < 1387084767 942705 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a serial format for transmitting music between integrated circuits < 1387085791 309059 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo : s3m channel mapping was confusing because the tracker mapped differently on soundblaster than on gravis ultra sound :o < 1387086113 503920 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and editing the channel map in st3 would move around the channels in some bizarre way < 1387086342 615621 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally you just map channels 0-15, aka left1, right1, left2, right2, left3, right3, etc... < 1387086417 992538 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and override that default panning because that kind of hard-left/hard-right panning sounds kinda stupid < 1387086752 354451 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is stupid like that too < 1387087774 416812 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes sense on a 386 with a sb pro when trying to save every last cycle but still < 1387087824 635707 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They seem to contain various stupid things which might cause problems to write a compiler into such formats; what is best way to write such a compiler in a way that would work in best way? < 1387087849 412418 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are your notes quantized in time? < 1387087872 330890 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie do they arrive exactly on 16ths, 8ths, beats etc < 1387087921 5780 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually they would be, but they might not be, due to some things < 1387087939 681132 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they are not, you have to use the delay effect < 1387087955 772723 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(SD1, SD2, SD3 etc) < 1387088004 560423 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively you could play around with the playback speed (effect A - change speed) but that has other issues < 1387088024 193652 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mostly that your slides don't end up being quite the same) < 1387088079 141937 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main problem is that you can only have 1 effect per row < 1387088083 198077 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :per chanel < 1387088152 805027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1387088154 333398 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you need a pitch slide that can't happen at the same time as a note delay < 1387088309 283400 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally you end up fine because most effects are only applied on either note start (sample offset, glissando, note delay...) or later on the note (vibrato, volume slides, pitch slide down...) < 1387088462 494180 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some stuff like spc converters set the speed super high (like A02) to sorta solve some of these issues, but then you end up with other issues anyways (mostly that slides end up rather strange) < 1387088611 815899 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes there are those kind of issues too, I thought of < 1387089232 912598 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to write a MML compiler into one or more of these music formats < 1387089367 549491 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387089417 163161 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently it is difficult to use MML with such software that expects music in .MOD or .S3M format, since no such program to compile it is exist < 1387089475 877226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of things suggest that topoi are good should i learn about them y/n < 1387089742 137534 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Are you aware of existing such softwares though? < 1387090068 400222 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I've been thinking about natrual-language-like programming languages such as Inform 7 and, arguably, COBOL. I wonder if they provide any advantages in expression to the programmer (i.e., better ability to program in such a language) based on the programmer being able to use UG (Universal Grammar), or whether the syntactic simalarities to natrual language are really only superficial, and so provide only an a priori familiarity wi < 1387090072 816224 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's "topoi" < 1387090103 396607 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: Your message isn't finished, but I think they aren't advantageous. < 1387090112 764071 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth : I think we don't know enough about irl languages < 1387090118 747879 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also UG is silly. < 1387090130 559225 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and doesn't even apply. < 1387090133 971813 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, hello. < 1387090135 125977 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of language processing irl is statistic < 1387090149 174885 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my name is bike. < 1387090161 784055 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: topoi seem to be something something grothendieck < 1387090223 613820 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Explicitly, implicitly, or to answer my question? < 1387090249 270001 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, what google translate does it a whole bunch of stats < 1387090263 794186 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to figure out what's the most likely translation of a group of words < 1387090284 720324 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some theories that humans work in similar ways. i personally don't buy this but some real linguists do. < 1387090302 774676 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chomsky is kind of out of sorts nowadays. < 1387090305 384082 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Hello; and even if one doesn't take a strong Chomskyan view (I only do for the sake of discussion), you could argue that L1 gives a learning advantage to L2, and I wonder if this applies if L2 is a natrualistic programming language. < 1387090330 165531 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible. < 1387090350 601073 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think such programming languages provide disadvantages to learning them and programming in them and expression, although they may provide advantages to understand the program more easily, once it is already written. < 1387090353 555700 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know anything about language acquisition, though, and i'm reasonably sure that good research on programming language acquisition does not exist. < 1387090362 92012 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a lot of made up thoughts. < 1387090439 686294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :An idea I had is if you are using such natural-language programming, have the program include various annotations and other symbols, and underlying codes in other programming languages that can be specified using escapes, and have it reformat them for printout. In fact I wanted to do this for Magic: the Gathering cards, too. < 1387090440 916991 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen reasonably convinicing arguments that language processing by humans is probablilistic (such as by Florian Jaeger); it is certainly context-dependant. < 1387090460 856564 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Research on programming language acquisition would be interesting. < 1387090474 823364 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: And I don't suspect there is much. < 1387090524 561570 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i don't think what you're talking about is particularly dependent on the underlying mechanism, i mean. it could be true in both a chomskyian and a norvig...ian world < 1387090535 768701 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you think such language provide disadvantages to learning because they are natrualistic? And what properties of natrual language makes this so? < 1387090559 42229 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just pretty skeptical of constructed languages though. seen too many dumbasses thinking they have unlocked the key of thought < 1387090565 913564 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I agree, I was just framing it in terms of UG for convenience. < 1387090579 310202 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: The Ithkuil crowd and so on? < 1387090618 466515 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"esigned to express deeper levels of human cognition briefly yet overtly and clearly, particularly with regard to human categorization" looks like it < 1387090633 108559 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I would argue that NL is unsuitable as a programming paradigm primarily due to the fact that ambiguity is often desirable in NL, but not for code. < 1387090637 421530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: Nearly all of the properties, I suppose. The programming language still has limitations and things that are unclear when you try to read it as a natural-language rather than as the program, so you will write everything wrong because it "looks right" to you... < 1387090649 478114 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes and that too. < 1387090654 54654 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ambiguity can be desirable in programming < 1387090673 840829 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike : when? < 1387090681 545646 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Indeed. I've had similar experiences interacting with NL parses, e.g., in IF (interactive fiction). < 1387090695 845253 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: But compilers/interpreters struggle with it, surely? < 1387090699 327910 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, in "higher-level" languages like C most of the point is targeting < 1387090707 895248 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same C program can "mean" different things < 1387090732 421404 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Are you talking about reusable code? < 1387090747 484944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: Yes I don't like or use Inform 7 at all, and yes even in IF games the entry can sometimes be a bit confusing but not nearly as much. < 1387090749 450852 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, just the results of compilation or interpretation. < 1387090792 56980 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you write "a += 4" you don't particularly care if that's implemented as an addition or as four increments or as nothing because "a" was optimized out, much of the time < 1387090823 668937 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Maybe the same code may 'mean' different things in different contexts (if I understand you), but this is actually a case of reusability, as the meaning to the computer is not context-dependent, even though the meaning to the programmer or user may be. < 1387090830 799780 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then it's all x86, arm or some kind of risc < 1387090838 187017 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't vary that much < 1387090867 420042 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and when i say "ambiguity can be desirable in programming" you can't reasonably interpret that as "buy me a soda" :p < 1387090882 175227 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Ambiguity is the reverse of that, what you're describing seems more akin to synonymy to me. < 1387090893 244298 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cross language synonymy < 1387090894 346186 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1387090898 746323 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Not always, actually < 1387090900 63777 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also undefined behavior. < 1387090940 791245 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you know if I7 has seen much favour in the IF community by the way? I haven't kept up with such things for years. < 1387090968 762633 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep < 1387090970 133306 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Rouringu de hajikunda! < 1387090996 956867 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: It seems to be popular although I do not recommend it < 1387091052 924404 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Your argument above, "... so you will write everything wrong because it "looks right" to you," essentially means that your L1 will cause interference problems for the programming L2. Do you think that is a valid formalisation? < 1387091078 490775 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: I am not sure what you mean by "L1" and "L2". < 1387091085 92624 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I though as much. I suspect it's popular with the 'writers' who want to make IF but don't have (much) programming experience. < 1387091118 300064 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Sorry, language acquisition terminology. L1 = the language you speak; L2 = the language you are learning. < 1387091124 839982 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in natural language acquisition studies, L1 is the first language you learn (the native language) and L2 are others. < 1387091144 356306 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK < 1387091379 54347 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Re the synonymy, what you are describing is multiple constructs that have the same meaning/result, but what I was meaning by ambiguity was one construct which has multiple meanings/results, the choice between which is not trivial. < 1387091419 399439 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You were saying that just the former is desirable in programming, right? < 1387091437 617787 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'm thinking of the C source as the "one construct" and multiple possible compilations as "multiple meanings/results". < 1387091518 856611 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Ah. I was referring to ambiguity in terms of what a piece of code does, not how it does it. < 1387091530 15967 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'd simply call that abstraction, incedentally. < 1387091542 775751 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: But you have a valid point that that is desirable. < 1387091598 438022 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about polymorphism? < 1387091678 124138 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but I think that has a different technical meaning. < 1387091721 406350 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or were you meaning it in its technical sense an an example of desirable ambiguity? < 1387091736 15114 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter, yes < 1387091817 105568 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be true, yes. < 1387091826 375498 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good example, in fact. < 1387091862 929043 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about, more fundamentally, names < 1387091881 82217 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\x -> x + x) [4,23] < 1387091881 415150 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, how does polymorphism map to NL ambiguity? < 1387091882 158632 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [8,46] < 1387091942 366895 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe like "I ran to the store" versus "the horse run past the barn fell" versus "is your refrigerator running?" < 1387091955 269730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: I guess it's in the way that in a natural language, you can understand a sentence without understanding what it's about < 1387091980 777872 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case 'run' being the 'polymorphic operator'. < 1387091983 45364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if a sentence contains a person's name and you don't recognise it < 1387091991 147555 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes, lexical ambiguiy, treating an operatior as equivalent to a lexeme. < 1387091992 302210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can still parse and understand the rest of the sentence < 1387092035 735402 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(usually) < 1387092150 844892 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know if I'd call that ambiguity. But I'm not sure what I'd call it, since it sits above the syntax-semantics interface. < 1387092184 726773 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: In the example of not recognising a name. < 1387092212 144760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: well, it works like programming language polymorphism for me < 1387092226 329139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a programming language, a polymorphic function can operate on data without knowing anything about its type < 1387092252 990359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what if gløgg : gløgge :: dog : doge < 1387092271 288995 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Treating polymorphic/overloaded operators as ambiguous, they are always disambiguated linguistically (not extra-linguistically), right? < 1387092342 331753 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I understad that a polymophic operator must know about type, but its operation is type-dependent. I could be wrong, though. < 1387092375 580277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t map < 1387092376 539519 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> b) -> [a] -> [b] < 1387092381 979808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice and polymorphic < 1387092386 483697 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: And in your example, which operator/lexeme is polymorphic/polysemous? < 1387092393 463057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :map doesn't need to know anything about a or b, just about functions and lists < 1387092406 421284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: the entire sentence is polymorphic with respect to the name < 1387092407 854946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_lAFDbnMLA#t=40s -- "what did the doge do?" < 1387092421 295786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the doge say < 1387092442 303767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok there are like 100 youtube videos with that name, surprise < 1387092480 238873 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ah, you're talking about generics, right? I was thinking about overloaded operators. < 1387092496 724800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1387092504 532410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :operator overloading's like the opposite of polymorphism, though < 1387092511 36521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an overloaded operator does different things with different arguments < 1387092519 691519 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are generics really ambiguous, though? < 1387092535 187233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps not < 1387092544 405271 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, in my line of work, polymorphism tends to cause a lot of troubles < 1387092552 668219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't create a circuit to implement a program without knowing what types it works on < 1387092569 2428 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming we are defining ambiguity as (non-trivial) context dependance in meaning/function, or something like that. < 1387092814 77563 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.7.205 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1387092887 134292 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, thinking about the syntax of NL-like programming languages again, if L1 causes negative transfer (interferance) then we would expect it to also have the potential to cause positive transfer (learning advantages). I wonder if this is borne out for NL-like languages. < 1387092914 187483 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :More importantly, I wonder if anyone's studied this. < 1387093133 456508 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably some managerial type research on cobol since it was a conscious factor in its design and all. < 1387093250 175652 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a good point. < 1387093294 403330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think advantages are possible when trying to *read* the program, perhaps. < 1387093343 117367 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: For someone familiar with the language, or only for someone unfamiliar with it? < 1387093377 481537 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Being, myself, not familiar enough with a NL-like language to answer that. < 1387093418 866355 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I agree it is a possibility, but if such advantages exist, why don't they apply to writing too? < 1387093427 623538 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: For someone who is somewhat familiar with it, but not quite, I mean. < 1387093443 280439 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yep. < 1387093492 888411 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: There's probably an interaction between receptive/expressive use and positive/negative interference. < 1387093519 63138 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But I'm not familiar enough with the acquisition literature to know if that is the case for NL. < 1387093673 379410 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about that either. < 1387093789 864105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I read more of _Stories of Your Life and Others_ < 1387093792 274680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good stuff < 1387093796 711345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm on the last story now < 1387093801 511268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was even in that book < 1387093814 924775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387093821 111646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i remember < 1387093827 558736 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the last story the one you already read < 1387093888 535431 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incedentally, what NL-like programming languages exist? Inform 7, COBOL and derivatives, and AppleScript come to mind. < 1387093903 988485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perligata, if you want an esolang < 1387093922 874564 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: I was thinking of a kind of "hybrid" system where the input looks like natural language kind of, with various extra marks too, and then when printed out, the marks mean different things and would print out like a natural language, with the correct bold and italics formatting and symbols and that stuff too. < 1387093935 816582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl itself was also intentionally designed on natural language principles < 1387093941 156067 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: I am not so familiar with COBOL but I could try to look up a bit < 1387093945 14820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably more natural-language like than the other languages you mention < 1387093951 693712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this copy has an extra story I guess? "The Lifecycle of Software Objects" < 1387093952 338765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just doesn't /look/ like one < 1387093963 499203 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That sounds confusing. < 1387093966 671207 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Really? < 1387093975 438802 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, wall was a linguist, right. < 1387093982 217596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: Larry Wall, who invented Perl, was a linguist (as in, natural linguist) < 1387093986 96391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I think COBOL is OK actually from what I can see < 1387093989 175587 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and applied the same principles < 1387094004 350520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why Perl has an ambiguous grammar, and the parser sometimes has to guess, for instance < 1387094005 973112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387094007 590247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have no read < 1387094011 501682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1387094014 467241 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it good < 1387094020 422041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have written one COBOL program https://gist.github.com/kmcallister/1ca57f7a260c72d36d96 < 1387094028 40405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it was published in 2010 < 1387094028 229657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't know I didn't read it yet!! < 1387094035 544689 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your face was published in 2010 < 1387094038 816637 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: It sounds confusing a bit, but... do you play Magic: the Gathering cards? It would help to understand my ideas about this thing I am mentioning < 1387094039 921495 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Surely it's the linguists who would first realise the pitfalls of NL-likeness? And that does explain why PERL is good at text processing and things that linguists actually want to do with a computer. < 1387094072 561054 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, snobol was also designed for text processing and linguists and is pretty much nothing like natural language at all < 1387094072 750022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: then why does Perl have such poor support for syntax trees compared to, say Lisp? < 1387094083 774202 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I played Magic years ago, but remember it a bit, except for all the new cards, obviously. < 1387094104 999283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well obviously it was a deferred question to be answered after you read it!! < 1387094105 792048 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: still a good program after all these years < 1387094109 848122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1387094114 383220 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: That's a good question? < 1387094118 404081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should see Perl 6's support for syntax trees < 1387094126 377379 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's some of the heftiest I've ever seen in a language < 1387094130 51931 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Minus the question mark, that is. < 1387094132 881470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of it's making its way into Perl 5 libraries, too < 1387094138 729954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl seems like "hey awk and sed and shell are all useful, let's make a language that does all that" < 1387094143 904372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nothing more principled than that < 1387094150 484604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl *is* still a really good awk/sed/shell replacement < 1387094151 119250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard perl gets scoping right < 1387094153 215483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: That is good enough, as long as you have seen how many newer cards (past Alpha or something) are often seeming to use a common syntax so they are worded in very similar ways. < 1387094158 497123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than, say, python or ruby < 1387094171 23917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe i should learn it < 1387094174 546549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl just lets you do what you like in terms of scope < 1387094180 185156 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has lexical scope and dynamic scope < 1387094187 156867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the ability to inject things into other scopes < 1387094188 993556 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :snobol gets scoping right. it has no scoping. learn snobol < 1387094192 23688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all under user control < 1387094193 219861 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :COBOL may be at approx. the correct "compromise" between programming and natural language, for its application, it seems like; especially from kmc's program it looks like that < 1387094200 508878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and two different sorts of global < 1387094201 344180 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Sort of, but some examples (pictures of cards?) would be nice. < 1387094202 257797 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks kmc. < 1387094203 953278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_____> < 1387094214 687522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke was being convincing about maybe i should learn perl < 1387094218 262038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen mauke ever < 1387094237 697484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the very globalliest globals have names starting with a dollar followed by a control character, you normally type them as ${^Example} but you could use a literal control-E and omit the braces if you really wanted to) < 1387094244 927552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but it's only "natural language" in that you have to write several long keywords instead of a curly brace < 1387094246 86730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i don't think he was trying to convince anyone but maybe i'll do it anyway < 1387094247 704323 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-03 07:36:50: when things would be ambiguous otherwise < 1387094250 731344 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that an improvement on anything < 1387094254 605033 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learned a little bit of perl. so many little symbols to know. so hard to read code. < 1387094277 236423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :much symbols < 1387094281 168959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :very punctuation < 1387094286 361122 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a language based on machina carnis < 1387094287 276964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, Perl tends to have good mnemonics for the weird punctuation combinations < 1387094287 465777 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1387094296 852685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: or there's that English module < 1387094299 879130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which just gives them good names < 1387094310 559893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I actually prefer the short names < 1387094315 833985 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may ask what the fuck, to which i respond, what your fuck < 1387094316 23051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$_ is basically just a pronoun < 1387094328 633269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good English name for it would be close to $it < 1387094333 376089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about $hit < 1387094347 635205 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1387094357 763379 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually this explains why @_ is used for procedure argument < 1387094363 43217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, things are easily enough to understand if you know some things about programming, even if not knowing the programming language; and yes the way that it is only "natural language" in the way you specified, is what I mean by a good way I think so. For example I can easily see what all the divisions mean, and could easily guess what "WITH NO ADVANCING" means. < 1387094365 968568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because its meaning is not too far from "them", and the @ indicates a plural < 1387094400 15097 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387094402 121789 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :intriguing new research suggests i am a dumbass < 1387094442 284808 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Perl is starting to look more NLy than I thought. < 1387094450 48697 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ made sense to me. cuz i used it to make @rrays < 1387094450 544838 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: You can look up pictures (or even just text) of cards pretty easily, but I can even just type some card texts here too. < 1387094467 942525 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one good example is slicing arrays < 1387094486 57074 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Give me some cards to look up, or type here, your preference. < 1387094486 295827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I have an array, say @a, then if I take one element from it, I get $a[2], and if I take two, I get @a[2,3], for instance < 1387094491 297483 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Or message me if they're long. < 1387094510 202381 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes it's true, 'WITH NO ADVANCING' is more clear than e.g. a trailing comma in Python 2 < 1387094511 80864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sigil at the start reflects whether I'm producing a single or plural quantity < 1387094511 384265 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The card "Recuperate" says: Choose one--You gain 6 life; or prevent the next 6 damage that would be dealt to target creater this turn. The card "Drifting Meadow" has three abilities; the first is: Drifting Meadow comes into play tapped. < 1387094525 724621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: however I don't think one should optimize a language to be read by people who don't know the language < 1387094527 672312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not part of the array itself; Perl uses the square brackets to know that I mean an array @a rather than a scalar $a < 1387094544 336472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there are some tradeoffs of course; the trailing comma in Python is also bad and special (and gone in Python 3) < 1387094545 619973 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION applies what ais is saying to matlab in order to amuse himself
< 1387094578 441082 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I agree. < 1387094579 401133 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: And in BASIC you use a trailing semicolon. And yes I agree with you in general that you don't think one should optimize a language to be read by people who don't know the language; I am simply saying there are such cases, and COBOL is one of them, due to its intended applications especially. < 1387094580 188449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I saw someone editing some Matlab code on Friday < 1387094585 804868 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm sorry < 1387094588 759713 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: (Re the optimisation.) < 1387094591 329867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but originally assumed it was Objective C because of the file extension < 1387094599 163358 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you opposed to matlab < 1387094601 38648 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and got very confused < 1387094604 451372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objective Matlab++ < 1387094605 215360 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah emacs does that too < 1387094606 587744 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes < 1387094610 503507 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :matlab-- < 1387094618 89579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love that Objective C++ is a real language supported by GCC and not an esolang joke < 1387094635 281814 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: The phrase "comes into play tapped" can be considered a phrase by the parser; the card name could be entered "~" and treated as a phrase by the parser too, while the prettyprinter can expand it to the card's name. < 1387094636 424719 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay. well i like it as a language. it's great for doing linalg < 1387094673 470725 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387094673 699850 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's got a good ide and it has useful linalg features i haven't seen elsewhere but i hate everything else about it. < 1387094681 237176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, lots of people get confused by what the sigils mean in Perl < 1387094698 416627 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I see. Remind me what the relevance of this is though? I've forgotten. < 1387094702 458562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially because most tutorials start off with "$ means scalar, @ means array", and then people assume they should use @ to refer to an array if they're indexing it < 1387094714 178223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the natural-language-likeness of it is simply just confusing < 1387094725 598732 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a real natural language! < 1387094730 771676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: I think zzo38 considers Magic card text to be a programming language < 1387094742 375257 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: You can do an "almost natural language", is what I mean < 1387094748 964786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty close already (and has only become more so because of Magic Online) < 1387094750 913177 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: To program Magic players? < 1387094758 353226 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: if you like < 1387094782 405084 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who can tell me things about that one category where objects are categories and arrows are adjunctions < 1387094789 737940 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: As in, Magic cards are NL-like, but arguably not really NL because they are formulaic? < 1387094796 451169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's a game it's more like a protocol language than a programming language? < 1387094807 258369 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: that does seem to be the way the TM works. of course, the hard part is leaving all the players with only one possible move so that they have to cooperate. < 1387094812 439176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :other formulaic NL text: laws & contracts; math papers < 1387094816 41383 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be a sad day when i know anything about magic < 1387094822 979766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there's that proof that Magic is Turing-complete < 1387094828 44934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: Something like that, yes. Not *exactly*, which is why I think such a "hybrid" approach is better < 1387094834 843029 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What? < 1387094850 280836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the current setup requires all players to do something other than nothing when the game gives them a choice < 1387094863 519680 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What are you approaching? < 1387094875 24441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the periphery shield of vortex four < 1387094890 733585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take an approach which allows entry in a way somewhat better for programming it while still working well for displaying too; for example, text in parentheses is a comment printed in italics (the parentheses are printed too); text in square brackets is a comment but is printed as is except the brackets are omitted; text in [- ... -] is Haskell code which isn't printed; ~ is printed as the card name; =s after a word is a plural; etc < 1387094897 147988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: http://www.toothycat.net/~hologram/Turing/HowItWorks.html < 1387094913 80673 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you expect it is possible to remove the "do nothing" option from every single turn? < 1387094925 979144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a small contribution to that (pointing out that an older version of the setup was wrong due to confusion caused by Wolfram propaganda) < 1387094933 179844 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's the major unsolved problem atm < 1387094940 540742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it may be possible, but it'd require a different setup < 1387094951 94504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a v. popular game at my current workplace < 1387094951 408405 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You would only use =s at the end for plurals of subtypes (rather than keywords), so something like "Desrtoy all Cat=s." instead of "Destroy all Cats." < 1387094959 362190 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the problem is that there are so few phasing-related cards, and it's quite hard to replace phasing in the setup < 1387094965 762394 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dad wanted me to read a contract based on "you're a mathy guy" or somesuch < 1387094966 725125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have played it a little bit and i even have, uh, a few hundred cards or something < 1387094973 39918 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But, "Draw 3 cards." (not "Draw 3 card=s.").) < 1387094973 679254 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dad is an authority on all matters, so kmc is right < 1387094984 343022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder if zzo38 would like grammartree < 1387095064 377204 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What is the application of such a language? < 1387095111 824382 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: In order to create Magic: the Gathering cards, so that you can both generate the pictures of the cards (such as to print out) and to run them on a computer program. < 1387095116 662286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh right, the main complication is that all the currently known cards that force spells to be cast with no decisions by anyone trigger at particular points in a turn < 1387095125 116229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning that you can't set everything up entirely in one turn < 1387095134 166433 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you know of a way to produce infinitely many upkeep steps? < 1387095137 140853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in one turn? < 1387095157 376772 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ah, that makes sense. But if they're so formulaic already, why not just make a parser which can understand them? < 1387095176 674442 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Perhaps with extensions to allow you to describe difficult-to-parse cards. < 1387095185 650219 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what's really annoying. when you're reading a book and there's a typo of an open bracket or something so the whole rest of the book is quoted < 1387095271 747858 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: There are things like using ~ for "this card" and stuff too, and to make the parsing work more simplified and working better; there are those and other reasons why I think it would be improvement to *not* enter them as "pure natural language" but rather to *almost* do it. < 1387095295 126413 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Anyways, using ~ in such a way is already common when entering card texts) < 1387095315 73757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think Wizards write it as "CARDNAME" internally < 1387095342 679187 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Sure, but a parser doesn't need to care about the difference between "~" and "this card". < 1387095347 372048 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes and it can be programmed to support that too (or instead) if done < 1387095376 330405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be an esolang named Heptapod B < 1387095381 187639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: well, "this card" doesn't work, because then the card would stop working if someone made a token copy of it < 1387095382 823602 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387095390 753479 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: Wrong. Both the parser and the printer need to care. The printer so that it can display the card's name properly, and the parser in case it is in a quoted ability. < 1387095390 947475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd have to be "this permanent" (or the appropriate for abilities that trigger in other zones) < 1387095417 818357 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hey, kmc's reading /that/ < 1387095430 136727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well I read that story a while ago, but it's in a book with some others < 1387095436 764150 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387095440 610008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of which I read today < 1387095441 7913 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Could you explain, please? < 1387095444 65697 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i hven't remembered it anyway < 1387095447 456933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1387095457 369515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: it's just a rules technicality: a token isn't a card < 1387095460 169258 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that wasn't even a coherent thought < 1387095461 968990 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Actually I think the rules specify that in such cases it does actually still work < 1387095463 989816 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But it doesn't matter what name you give the token. < 1387095480 875985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: huh, really? if so then it's a specific weird special case < 1387095484 163978 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh, tokens have a meaning in Magic. That's right. < 1387095487 720643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: today i wore a wristband with some text on it < 1387095501 210131 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read the text out loud and then said "would be a good name for a band" < 1387095512 634811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1387095513 78927 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't mean it has to be a card. In the example syntax I gave you could even enter it as "this [card]" rather than "this card" if you *do* need literally "this card" on the card, then it would make the parser easier and more sensible. < 1387095516 345534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but was it? < 1387095535 604991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was kind of long and awkward < 1387095557 661636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i said it to Gracenotes so ask him < 1387095584 565823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked the part in the one story where gur xnoonyvfg thl vairagf gur l pbzovangbe < 1387095599 951801 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree < 1387095620 310495 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm i only vaguely remember that story < 1387095626 580649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: btw, you might be interested in http://www.toothycat.net/wiki/bnf.pl?page=AlexChurchill/MagicCardGenerator , which works using a parser for Magic card text; it runs the parser /backwards/ to produce legal cards < 1387095649 795443 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :often not very sensible ones, though < 1387095702 741190 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example: Enchanted permanent gains "{T}: Destroy ~." Therefore the ~ should be treated as the timestamp of the card it is printed on at the time when the effect containing the ~ is used, it will make ~ into that card's timestamp. < 1387095720 471805 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Hah, nice. < 1387095724 152824 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tap up to four target permanents and tap those permanents" < 1387095738 415252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I liked the discussion before it got derailed by Magic < 1387095748 562436 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Me too. < 1387095775 40351 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ yes nerds < 1387095794 76328 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if var'aq is considered natrualistic. < 1387095805 123260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I can't think of any programming language more natural-language-like than Perl, in terms of semantics rather than syntax < 1387095814 753194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except Perligata, which puts natural language syntax onto Perl < 1387095817 145690 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you also should parse phrases like "up to " and "those" and so on. < 1387095821 695670 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in addition to matching the grammatical behaviour up < 1387095835 841405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Perligata isn't more natural-language-like than Perl, in terms of semantics rather than syntax. < 1387095843 778895 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To assign a value to a variable you must first push the value, then the name of the variable onto the stack. To push the name of a variable instead of its value, the spec tells you to use lI'moH operator. The cher operator can then be used to bind the value to the variable name." eh < 1387095849 502066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: right, it's mostly just syntax < 1387095863 279149 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very disappointed that this artigcle isn't written in klingon < 1387095863 633224 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: like Underload but with pointers? < 1387095882 502434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Humanity confuses more destructively than the awesome language" < 1387095896 445264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, MagicCardGenerator produced insightful and ontopic flavour text < 1387095941 534199 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Perhaps PERL is quite NL-like in terms of semantics. Interesting, as I was thinking only about syntax (and lexicon, I suppose) to begin with. < 1387095970 651882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 152 < 1387095972 275759 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :152) syntax is the least important part of a programming language other than Python < 1387095976 566167 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Which raises the question of how many of the languages mentioned are really naturalistic syntactically rather than just lexically. < 1387095988 442256 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is, not many < 1387095994 919189 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine too. < 1387096029 290504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the experience of Perl shows that people tend to dislike naturalistics in their programming languages < 1387096045 869966 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Wait, was that actually flavour text? You had me thinking it was from the var'aq page. We should probably add it in. < 1387096046 60074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it turns out I also wrote a program to make up random Magic: the Gathering card texts, although very incomplete < 1387096048 72277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather play Sandwich: The Card Game. < 1387096060 360170 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1387096061 233062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1387096063 138575 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: it was flavour text generated by that random magic card generator < 1387096064 782761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote sandwich < 1387096066 310189 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :185) Invent the game called "Sandwich - The Card Game" and "Professional Octopus of the World" (these names are just generated by randomly) \ 683) There.... is a box of Gardasil next to the butter in my fridge. At least my sandwich will be immune to cervical cancer *and* genital warts, I suppose. < 1387096068 291043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sandwich - The Card Game < 1387096082 53766 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many octopus quotes do we have < 1387096085 698876 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote octopus < 1387096087 384115 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :185) Invent the game called "Sandwich - The Card Game" and "Professional Octopus of the World" (these names are just generated by randomly) \ 214) ais523: Maybe it is better, because I don't think the octopus will live very well in the tree. But the difference is that the Internet is lying and you cannot see such things; you could m < 1387096089 86477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://videogamena.me/ < 1387096096 140881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes octopus < 1387096096 689445 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote octopus | shuf < 1387096098 219000 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :185) Invent the game called "Sandwich - The Card Game" and "Professional Octopus of the World" (these names are just generated by randomly) \ 214) ais523: Maybe it is better, because I don't think the octopus will live very well in the tree. But the difference is that the Internet is lying and you cannot see such things; you could m < 1387096102 461425 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.27447 < 1387096104 300336 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What was the name of the card it went with? < 1387096106 971508 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :two. well, almost acceptable < 1387096112 812928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: just two < 1387096120 268981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: there wasn't one, it doesn't generate names < 1387096126 260574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would also like to play Professional Octopus of the World. < 1387096129 866043 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shall make a note to talk about octopuses at least once a day < 1387096131 846840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot to copy-paste the attribution < 1387096145 623199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Has anyone invented either of those games yet? < 1387096151 403286 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You're right. < 1387096152 461153 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so: what's the deal with being smart even though they don't use myelination?? < 1387096173 764929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they have really really thick nerves to compensate < 1387096181 553751 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, assholes < 1387096182 866353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, they're measured in centimetres < 1387096191 561606 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a centimetre-wide cell is mindboggling < 1387096201 48977 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody tell ais about slime mold. < 1387096211 794826 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :squid giant axons are 1 mm, though. < 1387096214 963898 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha. < 1387096215 691603 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno what you're thinking of < 1387096222 408815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this slime mold juice is delicious!" < 1387096230 962244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: probably I was just off by an order of magnitude < 1387096238 581735 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, now i'm actually wondering what cytoplasm tastes like < 1387096249 751330 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not very good, generally < 1387096261 684646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably tastes much like water < 1387096266 578592 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it mostly is water < 1387096268 42842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well < 1387096280 150640 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you blend pretty much any organic material, there's going to be cytoplasm in there < 1387096282 996548 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some cells are pretty much more proteins than water. < 1387096288 460338 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not the main contributing factor to the taste < 1387096293 575174 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get weird hydrodynamics. < 1387096297 89995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, protein tastes of protein < 1387096326 413728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was my nethack fruit called, anyway < 1387096327 646996 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll just down some blood plasma < 1387096338 901345 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine was 'schizocarp', ia m the opposite of creative < 1387096359 189006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, beautiful: this random card costs 4, flips into a 1/1 when there are at least 2 lands in play, and gives itself +1/-1 < 1387096365 140421 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck trying to use /that/ thing < 1387096371 949790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't think someone invented those game and I don't really intend < 1387096390 880130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I use "avocado" locally, just because I wanted a real fruit that probably wasn't in the game already < 1387096394 808781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever eaten one < 1387096399 912858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally I just leave it at the default online, though < 1387096409 385657 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1387096440 234744 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm mauthner cells are also huge but fish are vertebrates. how vexing < 1387096496 474487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm wondering if there are any organisms with bones but not backbones < 1387096539 854747 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. backbones evolved before bones. < 1387096549 458034 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you don't count things like cuttlebones. < 1387096585 436688 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'bone' could mean any number of things, i suppose~ < 1387096621 261717 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand < 1387096626 711673 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack lets you name fruits? < 1387096632 944640 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: one specific fruit < 1387096635 480885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has a customizable name < 1387096652 856003 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's normally just called "fruit" when people are talking about it, or sometimes "slime mold" after the default value < 1387096728 826155 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gross < 1387096839 386888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, a while back I was working on a natural language deparser in order to make NetHack produce better messages < 1387096853 888133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, it did substitutions at the natural language parse tree level, rather than the textual level < 1387096864 17510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and add in pronouns, etc. < 1387096874 720561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was never finished, and we temporarily abandoned it so that we could get actual work done < 1387096925 361169 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Do you have the code around still? < 1387096945 573841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: yes < 1387096953 487665 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: How's your interpreter coming along? < 1387096978 610780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: https://gitorious.org/nitrohack/ais523/source/36824d7535d3ac7614875de4ec7559358d1860b1:libnethack_intl < 1387097002 169188 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although note that we think there may be problems in the model of natural language it uses < 1387097014 241504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, it sort-of collapsed into design-by-committee as to what those should be < 1387097048 38350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: also there's some documentation in https://gitorious.org/nitrohack/ais523/source/36824d7535d3ac7614875de4ec7559358d1860b1:doc/grammar.txt < 1387097061 83737 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so the idea would be to store language models for each language? and then construct the messages from the tree after substitution? and hope the model is good enough the result comes out grammatically correct? < 1387097072 224203 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's it, basically < 1387097097 656541 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I have most of a Tape class and a DistortionMap class, but haven't done any work since yesterday since I had food poisoning. I do plan to work on it more, though. < 1387097099 878327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tree used tokens to represent words, which were mostly the same as the word in English, except that if there were two homographs in English they'd have different tokens in grammartree < 1387097111 827787 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Thanks, I'll take a look some time. < 1387097150 284733 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: grammartree? is this the thing you were above wondering if zzo38 would like? < 1387097154 159767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was illuminating learning about the special cases in English < 1387097155 663549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes < 1387097177 255835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I wasn't planning to cover all of English < 1387097181 377883 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the subset that NetHack uses < 1387097184 960990 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I though about re-implementing it in R since the inherent vectorisation would make applying distortion easier, but decided I don't know R well enough to do that sort of thing in it at present. < 1387097220 646166 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: also letting it be in python means i can create a module for it for my upcoming universal IDE :D :D: D < 1387097272 117964 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Cool. < 1387097296 173784 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: How is your said universal IDE coming along? < 1387097347 850214 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: well it's mainly to help me learn python and tk. i have figured out how to do menu of the things i need it to do already, though i am not sure about the current problem i'm trying to solve < 1387097355 557083 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/menu/many/ < 1387097394 383289 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: What is the current problem? And why TK, by the way? < 1387097458 550131 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: those two questions should not be answered concurrently as they are very different discussions < 1387097464 493199 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: which do you want to start with < 1387097661 14288 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Let's start with the current problem. < 1387097683 684948 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387097684 522167 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: And I should mention that I'm currently cooking, so may respond slowly. < 1387097940 343605 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: let's say that every language stores its UI and interpreter in a module which defines a class (implementing a specific abstract class), and all these modules are just stored in some folder. without any further config files, i want the IDE to be load these modules as needed in association with source files of the language they are for. < 1387097940 989775 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387097984 967524 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have read about using __import__, but i'm not sure what i should do to make sure I am keeping around an instance of the class loaded from the module < 1387098004 594388 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you get an instance of a class you don't know the name of until you have loaded the module? < 1387098060 126928 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose since i know the abstract class it implemented, i could find a class definition in the loaded namespace that claims to inherit from that class? < 1387098126 559288 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should i eschew __import__ and use execfile instead, creating a namespace for the exec'd file from the info about the IDE it needs? < 1387098156 872497 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the latter may introduce problems with destruction of the classes so loaded, and so i go in circles < 1387098342 897471 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: What are the classes defined in each module being used for? Do they define the UI and interpreter? < 1387098358 282181 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: yes. < 1387098447 382090 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm i have an idea < 1387098461 326324 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Just give them generic names like UI and Interpreter, you won't get a conflict assuming that you're only using one language at a time. < 1387098478 750763 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Or, if using multiple languages, they will be in different instances. < 1387098506 997752 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: explain that last? < 1387098522 998665 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because yes it will be possible to have several different language types loaded at once < 1387098653 458685 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: You will have multiple editors or whatever, one for each language, and can set the active language individually for each editor. < 1387098654 529912 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recently lots of people have food poisoning o_O < 1387098714 490452 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: import befunge < 1387098720 330930 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: UI = befunge.UI < 1387098725 476372 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: And so forth. < 1387098906 422998 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: but i won't know there is a module named befunge < 1387098926 140268 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: or UI = befunge.UI() if you want to make an instance of it. < 1387098948 304030 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: it will look more like: for all i,files in enumerate(folder): ns[i] = __import(file)__ < 1387098979 979823 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i create an instance in my namespace from something defined in another namespace? < 1387099031 521058 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Oh, I misunderstood you, I assumed that you didn't know that you needed a module called befunge, not that a module called befunge existed. < 1387099209 417612 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i misplaced some underscores there whoops < 1387099321 598425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: now i remember it < 1387099335 232196 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387099633 893717 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I would have used exec("import %s"%i) but that might be considered improper. < 1387099706 49550 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: But presumably you'll only use a language module on filetype identification or when a user requests it, so there's no point importing them on enumeration. < 1387099721 708614 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: sure. righto. < 1387099745 742662 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: but i was thinking of enumerating them to extract the filetype/module associations < 1387099758 177223 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i know what filetypes i support < 1387099811 333105 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/type/extension < 1387099914 102279 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've actually got a Nigerian Finance Minister spam < 1387099975 696427 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I would have just stored that information separately, but that does mean you have to maintain a central list of them. < 1387100017 413998 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: You could make a function which enumerates everything and writes a file containing filetype associations, so that you only have to enumerate when a new language module is added. < 1387100348 863681 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: bite the hook. coax a picture out of them. < 1387100357 609733 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, can't be bothered < 1387100454 173778 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: yes that is doable, but i'm still iterating the files to find one newer than the associations file every time i start. would it be all that faster than just rebuilding the table each time? < 1387100585 770856 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I was thinking to only rebuild the table when requested. < 1387100629 627920 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Plus you wouldn't have to do a complete rebuild, only add in the new definitions, so it probably would be faster, but perhaps only marginally. < 1387100643 976156 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: How many languages do you have defined so far / expect to have defined? < 1387101617 874465 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387102601 716739 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1387102770 371410 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Natural language programming at its best/worst: http://system-english.com/?page=sepapers < 1387102866 367976 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OSMOSIAAAAN! < 1387103073 416679 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's already lolcode < 1387103083 276575 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's practically natural language programming < 1387103121 132902 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only for cats < 1387103128 696872 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, good point. < 1387103158 852744 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1387103173 459105 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387103193 458089 :qlkzy_!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1387103225 933223 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably actually qualifies as much as COBOL or AppleScript, except for its limited number of instructions. < 1387103285 996675 :ineiros_!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387103286 765831 :stuntaneous!~stuntaneo@2001:1af8:4700:a000:10:: QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387103316 262446 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1387103353 11140 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a JOIN :#esoteric < 1387103553 261711 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: WhO kNoWs?? < 1387103569 802825 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :InFiNiTeLy MaNy < 1387103649 774782 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1387103714 93109 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a JOIN :#esoteric < 1387103761 336112 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Personally, as a user, I'd prefer to call Update Language Definitions if/when I install a new language module, rather than have it re-enumerate every startup, but checking for new modules on startup and updating file associations then wouldn't be too bad, especially if it's done in the background. < 1387103835 999102 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Or you could update the definitions if the IDE loads a file it doesn't recognise, since that is probably something a user will do soon after installing a new language. < 1387103848 116776 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: With an option to manually update definitions too. < 1387103851 34501 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: oh nice i like that idea < 1387103868 441802 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: If you weren't lazy you'd make it configurable, of course. < 1387103869 963773 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Cool. < 1387103941 421319 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: you mean the file association is configurable? that's easy. since each module defines what file extension it wants, if you want to configure them, just modify the line of the associated module, and manually update definitions! < 1387103985 146926 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: No, I mean the user can choose whether the definitions get checked/updated every startup or not. < 1387104028 588085 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :farrioth: oh yeah i'm probably too lazy for that :P < 1387104103 290440 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i just realized the MTGTM page has a whole page dedicated to how all credit for anything creative anyone does actually goes to God. so...FUCK ALEX CHURCHILL. THANK GOD FOR THE MTG TM! < 1387104110 41835 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :import config < 1387104110 784040 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :if config.update_defs: update_defs() < 1387104126 661261 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i could do that much < 1387104136 14744 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm NOT MAKING A DAMN CONFIGURATION UI < 1387104180 848354 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just have your config file be a python module which gets imported. Not secure, but that isn't a problem in this case. < 1387104237 143108 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1387104662 904474 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a JOIN :#esoteric < 1387104681 225012 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387104839 317770 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387104924 51454 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1387104962 813689 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387105215 50846 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a JOIN :#esoteric < 1387106560 17858 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"perl -pe 's/^(.*)$/\L$& \U$&/g'" is there a shorter way to capitalize a string in a shell command < 1387106580 506468 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which contains newlines0 < 1387106668 203792 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… what about "perl -000 -e 'print uc <>'" < 1387106672 973188 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's shorter; does it work? < 1387106681 481509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, tr a-z A-Z < 1387106688 458601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that one isn't Unicode-aware < 1387107443 641552 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-135-162.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387108039 387611 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm off to bed, see you all around. < 1387108047 312466 :farrioth!~farrioth@148.123.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1387108210 924575 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387108435 95012 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387108641 160269 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387109652 110015 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387109693 649794 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-135-162.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387109870 225594 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1387110067 177007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Vorpal < 1387110069 723474 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1387110152 334266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1387112043 608911 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387114663 470647 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anticipation error hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm < 1387115052 958457 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Helloover < 1387115529 327553 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387115978 856548 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387116479 201104 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387116846 148118 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn32-214.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387119010 401501 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-135-162.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387120216 437889 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387121362 403065 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1387121381 433280 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the prerequisites to know before reading the homotopy type theory book? < 1387121558 815401 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387121896 95387 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387121907 725454 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387121943 397256 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1387121943 640507 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1387121970 892462 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387122005 536351 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387122198 615207 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387123206 24020 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :[li]|Gaming < 1387123246 817806 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Just start reading it, and if there is anything you don't know, research it < 1387123422 687146 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess "topology" and "type theory" will come up quite a bit < 1387123544 491938 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first chapter is completely about just type theory < 1387123569 130852 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being familiar with dependent types is useful < 1387124139 562672 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387124175 514295 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387124414 721894 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387124456 841545 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387124544 267984 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1387124961 797050 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387125085 185242 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387125267 160832 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net PART :#esoteric < 1387125284 224497 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1387127853 69718 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387128577 842050 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387130369 210650 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387130842 62570 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387131061 494873 :[li]|Gaming!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387131115 931155 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387132092 131331 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387132184 642706 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :ZuuSantaClaus < 1387133696 556308 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1387133808 220628 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn32-214.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387133877 201828 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387133955 336361 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387134556 77275 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387134592 804024 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387134603 469812 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/FbEzLiL.jpg < 1387134854 59482 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1387134923 23504 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.7.205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387135155 890951 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387135611 777980 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://venturebeat.com/2013/12/13/youtubes-out-of-control-content-id-system-even-flagged-jonathan-blow-for-posting-footage-of-his-own-game/ < 1387135667 283880 :ZuuSantaClaus!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387135916 218390 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, oh wow < 1387135966 124356 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387135993 459762 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387139718 176504 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT : < 1387140256 334957 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: that link just put dolphin browser into an infinite url-loading loop. i didn't even know that was possible. < 1387140310 70355 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1387140319 419672 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like quality software. < 1387140354 108349 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387140415 811218 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-228-14.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387140417 462393 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1387140438 699140 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is actually. this is the first time i've seen a bug like this in the three years i've used it < 1387140544 252423 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they forget to limit redirect loops or something? < 1387140565 245747 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1387140676 818014 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It's possible to create redirect loops < 1387140713 437910 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's browsers who should limit them :) < 1387140842 474161 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: but the link above presumably worked for ion and vorpal, so i doubt that's what's going on < 1387140946 538011 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they probably didn't use dolphin < 1387141013 258643 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but what happens when a redirect is limited? < 1387141066 123363 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387141072 109635 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387141149 550582 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :loading finishes with an error page, usually < 1387141259 426147 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they got an error page < 1387141262 971289 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, besides 301 and friends it could also be a http refresh with a small delay, or some javascript setting window.location. < 1387141319 732685 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: wouldn't the browser have to at least rate limit those as well? < 1387141377 189300 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. I'm not ready to pass judgement on that ;) < 1387141425 870608 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-135-162.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387141976 467484 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: are they using dolphin too? < 1387142220 152735 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1387143723 268176 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387145415 756926 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387145669 723477 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387145982 883140 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387146791 52736 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone has made up an extension of TeX for supporting multiple kind of marks on a page rather than just one kind, but I have made up a way to do it without using those extensions. In fact a large number of things can be done without any extensions. < 1387147300 768256 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387148158 432206 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310] < 1387148882 104313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1387148990 56285 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1387149209 634540 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387149285 787150 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387150827 892384 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am currently typing the Dungeons&Dragons game according to I played it yesterday < 1387151120 695968 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :write some brainfuck to type it out for you. < 1387151146 563935 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :less character variance and relevant! < 1387151172 916638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just type it manually < 1387151302 635797 :mgdvoe!~mgdvoe@193.104.110.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387151314 697473 :mgdvoe!~mgdvoe@193.104.110.139 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387151409 234010 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387151598 599179 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 46 < 1387151600 210391 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 46: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1387151683 54988 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know the *real* reason why Kjugobe doesn't want the door for the prison cell opened? (It isn't to prevent him from escaping. He already cannot escape.) < 1387151710 415283 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :he wants the prisoner to be safe < 1387151714 43716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he smells _real_ badly. < 1387151719 580827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: No. < 1387151737 201734 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387151739 494016 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No. There are bars; it isn't a plain door but rather bars so the smell would still come through. < 1387151762 715580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess that takes care of my second guess of fire breath as well. < 1387151834 633703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The prisoner is human and is also in a coma, so even if he has fire he cannot easily use it. < 1387151866 564644 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would happen if the door were opened? < 1387151914 315668 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would not affect the prisoner or cause damage to the ship if it were opened? Can you try to figure out why I didn't want it opened? < 1387151936 970661 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can tell you if you don't know. < 1387151959 295292 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS IT A TRAP < 1387151963 875818 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITS A TRAP ISNT IT < 1387151989 952209 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am pretty sure it is *not* a trap, actually, but that has nothing to do with it either. < 1387152020 336503 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i give up < 1387152024 87094 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The door was actualyl rusted shut < 1387152028 207334 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually too < 1387152057 292170 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: No. (Well, maybe it is; I haven't tried. But that isn't the reason.) < 1387152105 466527 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: he said kjugobe doesn't WANT it opened, not that it can't be opened. < 1387152105 694461 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason I don't want it open is that if whoever has the key is asked to open the door, due to whatever is happening, it may easily interfere with the schedules of this ship (a merchant ship) arriving and departing at certain areas. < 1387152139 316649 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: who would have guessed that. no one. < 1387152157 603554 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Maybe if you read it, someone might have guessed? < 1387152195 117819 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure no one else would have guessed on the basis of me reading < 1387152195 918384 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the reason has nothing to do with the door itself (other than the fact that it is locked and I don't have the key). < 1387152237 144828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I have a way to get in anyways, despite teleportation not being allowed into and out of the cell. < 1387152248 766206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have this rope and sanding block I can use in there too. < 1387152368 92223 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The prisoner's name is Shadowsteel, I think. I have almost completely broken his concentration, I think. < 1387152464 130818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways if you can read the entire story and still don't understand, then maybe you aren't good enough at this game? < 1387152778 901197 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387153066 99615 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387153553 97584 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387153635 164948 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh cold burn from the zzoster < 1387153645 748829 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1387154114 393610 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: What does that mean? < 1387154278 716465 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: never mind < 1387154431 788460 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387154992 863008 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :[li]|Gaming < 1387155115 820469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/seen < 1387155117 257774 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#! /usr/bin/env perl \ ($n,$e)=split /\s+/, join(" ",@ARGV); $n=~s/ *$//; $c="ls -r /var/irclogs/_esoteric/????-??-??.txt"; $c.=" | head -n 30" unless $e eq "ever"; @f=split /\s+/, `$c`; for $f (@f) { open F,"<$f"; @l=grep(/^..:..:..: <$n>/i,); close F; if (@l) { $b=$f; $b=~s#.*/(.*?).txt#$1#; print "$b $l[-1]"; exit 1; } } print $e eq "ever < 1387155270 473305 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1387155682 568094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should co(cartesian closed) be called cocartesian coclosed or coclosed cocartesian < 1387155690 5972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the important questions" < 1387155713 660467 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dual of a cartesian closed space < 1387155738 108059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help what's a cartesian closed space < 1387155749 707530 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :category whatever < 1387155750 817738 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerd < 1387155799 907914 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :open cocartesian < 1387156548 633538 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387156715 922474 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387156901 780422 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387157199 922758 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PART :#esoteric < 1387157753 263470 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387158619 911255 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387158926 837553 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387159079 13982 :[li]|Gaming!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387159627 361455 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: https://github.com/int-e/zeckendorf now deals with trailing zeros and has truncating subtraction for zeckendorf numbers (e.g. [] - [1] = []) < 1387159687 589883 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay zeckendorf < 1387160075 818845 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :good dorf < 1387160080 626421 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :up there with haus and ganon < 1387160141 327971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we talk about dorps instead < 1387160146 159384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like nieuw dorp < 1387160527 474899 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the only dorp, except for a south african musical group based in london < 1387160559 521722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess there's no oud dorp < 1387160579 461499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :several nieuw dorps but which one is the nieuwest < 1387160695 109935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that isn't built yet < 1387160746 289784 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://np.reddit.com/r/Physics/comments/1svri5/ive_solved_the_theory_of_everything_try_and_prove/ce1pd2n < 1387160758 629673 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual fuck is this. < 1387160761 703975 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: does NegaZeckendorf just use -1,-2,-3 etc. < 1387160786 469459 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol, you're oko right < 1387160790 457 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the title it looks like a stellar example of fractured ceramics < 1387160795 322736 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: nope. < 1387160802 123718 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it appears to be garbage, LinearInterpol < 1387160808 955213 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gravity (which doesn't actually exist) is n=0" < 1387160813 918595 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :u fokin wot < 1387160814 297072 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 1 -1 2 -3 5 -8 13 etc; the signs alternate. (or, more easily, you use the fibonacci numbers with negative indices, F_{-1},F_{-2},...) < 1387160819 14796 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol, that's precisely the response i'd expect from oko, see < 1387160832 359708 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :check my host, I don't know who oko is. :P < 1387160869 52290 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMMMM < 1387160882 390658 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd put nothing past him/you < 1387160891 89894 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that would have been my second guess < 1387160894 733644 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i trustirth him a long time ago < 1387160916 855259 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know who the hell "oko" is. < 1387160920 995347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :[Just (), Nothing] >>= repeat | But I see you on the other side? | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1387160942 279838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: LinearInterpol doesn't know who you are! < 1387160952 350033 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1387160973 208934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [Just (), Nothing] >>= repeat < 1387160974 299119 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Jus... < 1387160989 641273 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" I don't think I've ever eaten one" you've never eaten an avocado? you should they're awesome < 1387160991 961080 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17 is beyond our reach < 1387161027 135988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : the actual fuck is this. <-- standard 5.5 f crank, tin covered < 1387161028 728624 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what oklofok said < 1387161046 987891 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: f is for? < 1387161054 75232 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, why are you pretending to be LinearInterpol pretending to not be you < 1387161083 217423 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'm actually oklofok. < 1387161085 364661 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obv < 1387161093 669823 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEN WHO WAS PHONE < 1387161110 455438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: feet, duh < 1387161112 431774 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes. < 1387161124 484407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cranks always use imperial, being mainly us engineers) < 1387161130 184855 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok was also phone < 1387161179 257081 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw imperial units. < 1387161192 155492 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: why are you now pretending to be not oklofok who is pretending to be oklofok < 1387161194 883667 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokokoko < 1387161214 745056 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not oklofok < 1387161220 438357 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we can do this all day) < 1387161232 627785 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is leaving to france in a few hours
< 1387161234 687825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you cannot, i'll ban you on the fifth iteration or so < 1387161248 538670 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b-b-but < 1387161273 739846 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys being so silly < 1387161283 853464 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: i will hex you to read all further instances of the word "cannot" as "carrot" < 1387161284 830914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: bon voyage, Mr. Oskari < 1387161287 613506 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will SUFFER < 1387161300 274474 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you monster. < 1387161323 956297 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, why would you go to france < 1387161326 985050 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's full of french < 1387161342 118142 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387161355 610805 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's horrrrrrrible < 1387161397 271716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only boily were here to warn him < 1387161410 325089 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily would warn him in french < 1387161416 946208 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does oklofok speak the francais < 1387161419 223594 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1387161428 767980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: precisely what's needed to scare some sense into him! < 1387161440 835729 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it does sound right dreadful < 1387161453 190949 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i speak spanish well enough to buy beer, pizza and pants though < 1387161453 379629 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: what's in france for you < 1387161471 109942 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to talk about some stuff we did in chile last week < 1387161480 538692 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :donde est mi pantalones. < 1387161481 346684 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387161487 432007 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's paying you < 1387161517 868586 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we did some percolation theory stuff and just after i send the abstract to france, we found out that the guy whose book we had been using published an article about the exact same thing < 1387161529 825379 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :por qué la cervez in mi pantalones < 1387161530 163133 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :donde están mis pantalones < 1387161531 195367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it? < 1387161540 248909 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't know if he has all our results, but probably he has most of them) < 1387161551 202184 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm being paid by the university people < 1387161557 258893 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess its an idea whose time has come < 1387161559 210631 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/nathalie.aubrun/DySyCo.html#program < 1387161576 50534 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a spell to make caster refuse to visit France? (it is one of the spells in ifMUD, I think) < 1387161611 477207 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1387161615 290674 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately my mana pool is empty < 1387161631 130119 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would even be the point of that, if i don't want to go to france i can do that without a spell < 1387161653 251697 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: everyone in the CA community is suddenly doing some sort of probabilistic stuff < 1387161672 489999 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah basically < 1387161674 459191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: a highly unlikely coincidence! < 1387161688 673170 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: probably < 1387161724 40376 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387161727 939792 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :may have to do with the fact that lots of people in the CA community (not me) seem to think that there are not that many new things to do < 1387161737 478454 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Characterizing complexity and computability classes with polynomial ordinary differential equations." oh hey, neat. < 1387161748 649138 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that one of the talks < 1387161763 38680 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in the link, yeah. < 1387161783 788421 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does sound cool < 1387161795 840110 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen a few papers on it, i don't remember if bournez was on them < 1387161829 33033 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has four different cvs < 1387161850 774461 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah, he did. write papers i've read probably i mean < 1387161870 929141 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Computability and computational complexity of the evolution of nonlinear dynamical systems" "Computation with perturbed dynamical systems" etc etc < 1387161890 331364 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg our reading someone's paper / cotalking in a conference distance is at most 2. < 1387161931 628973 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know off the top of their heads the computational complexity of the problem "does there exist a planar embedding of G with at most k edge crossings?" < 1387161969 213664 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i just think they're kind of neat. i looked up an obscure paper of shannon's in a real physical library because of them < 1387162045 510411 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: sounds like a very basic question in parametrized complexity < 1387162053 573260 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :another hot topic afaiu < 1387162075 209107 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i have no idea what the answer is) < 1387162113 488300 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay maybe the planar makes it very possible that there's no paper on this < 1387162158 968672 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my answer probably requires that the problem of checking whether there's an embedding with at most k crossings is np-hard if k is given as input < 1387162178 693697 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i don't actually know < 1387162312 60005 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" oklofok: bon voyage, Mr. Oskari" btw you're right < 1387162416 203827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHA* < 1387162538 930555 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mr. Öör Andersson Jan < 1387162564 247985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am one of the few people of my age in the family not to have a middle name, i think. < 1387162580 268532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopse i looked at reddit.com/r/haskell again < 1387162588 173626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1387162604 882271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least this particular monad tutorial is at a negative score so i guess i can't complain about it saying wrong things < 1387162623 674916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just read the 24 days posts hth < 1387162646 191667 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you still have that hth disabler script thing < 1387162650 899217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1387162669 91013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/r/monadtutorials < 1387162705 218868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how this section is called "definiton" < 1387162707 850488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1387162715 799808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"definition" < 1387162782 391852 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: and now there's even a bunch of comments. I think that's it for this year. < 1387162801 851400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitons, the force carriers of the strong monadic action < 1387162830 450278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen b_jonas < 1387162835 30813 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-12-14 23:08:46: nope, http://caniuse.com/ doesn't mentino these < 1387162849 350058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mentino is another rarely mentioned particle < 1387162952 361566 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas I've extended https://github.com/int-e/zeckendorf to deal with trailing zeros, subtracting a larger from a smaller number (which will result in 0 for Zeckendorf numbers) and a bunch of comments. Enjoy! < 1387162952 550336 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387163016 920088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you should disable the hth disabler script < 1387163021 838947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i miss the hthful days < 1387163108 858850 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hateful? < 1387163125 510191 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: it is NP-complete < 1387163141 123112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth leads to suffering < 1387163169 220056 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: but there are efficient approximation algorithms for graphs of bounded degree < 1387163180 629632 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there are < 1387163270 165840 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is https://cs.uwaterloo.ca/~plragde/papers/hlayer_ESA.ps related < 1387163362 42064 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dist.ist.tugraz.at/cape5/why.html < 1387163381 703551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one disable hths < 1387163485 869783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think elliott wrote a script < 1387163534 348736 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay gtg, love you guys lol tihihi <3 < 1387163535 620936 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT : < 1387163696 337231 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1387163707 479726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The only known results are that the free Heyting algebra on one generator is infinite, and that the free complete Heyting algebra on one generator exists (and has one more element than the free Heyting algebra)." < 1387164317 31737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wat < 1387164353 115441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ? < 1387164362 311801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :known results about what < 1387164379 31951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already closed the page < 1387164384 772905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google "has one more element than the free Heyting algebra" < 1387164385 267653 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_problem_(mathematics) < 1387164385 468524 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Word problem (mathematics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < 1387164395 222224 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_problem_(mathematics) < 1387164427 703776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1387164457 420278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess saying an infinite things has one more element than another infinite things can make sense when the things are more interesting than sets < 1387164530 784494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw you know how if you take a discrete space and then add one more element which isn't in any open set (not even the set of everything) then you get a thing which is like a pointed set < 1387164553 21927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and you keep the usual definition of continuity and so on of course) < 1387164579 868428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can add an element which is in every set, even the "empty" one < 1387164583 339560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :same deal < 1387164585 373362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i assume it means "has one element that isn't in the free heyting algebra" < 1387164610 310119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1387164677 571563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i am not sure i know, unless you are talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandroff_extension < 1387164710 444818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i don't think i am < 1387164717 63378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the thing i'm talking about isn't a topological space < 1387164739 783761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :food -> < 1387164754 826333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just mean, you know how a space is (X,{{},X,...open sets...}) < 1387164757 140620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fine < 1387164785 620458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the same alexandrov as an alexandrov topology i guess < 1387164875 996960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just bug someone else instead < 1387164881 264109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i shouldn't be bugging people, hmm < 1387165061 436340 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387165107 995889 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387165669 907842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1 i 10 * 1 i 10 < 1387165670 456180 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |value error: i < 1387165670 645005 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: | 1 i 10*1 i 10 < 1387165699 874155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1 i 10 < 1387165700 568570 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |value error: i < 1387165700 757412 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: | 1 i 10 < 1387165721 679413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's 1 i 10 < 1387165725 830083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :j would be so much cooler if you could remember the functions < 1387165728 848024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i 10 < 1387165729 479850 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: |value error: i < 1387165729 668779 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: | i 10 < 1387165740 54607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i 1 10 < 1387165740 760294 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |value error: i < 1387165740 949095 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: | i 1 10 < 1387165745 673900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) u < 1387165746 283869 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |value error: u < 1387165748 502541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1387165756 845869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that supposed to be iota < 1387165768 158229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1 iota 10 < 1387165768 865087 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |value error: iota < 1387165769 53909 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: | 1 iota 10 < 1387165774 218242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1387165779 560263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it < 1387165781 447954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i. 10 < 1387165782 71135 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 < 1387165787 334264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew < 1387165791 938758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1 i. 10 < 1387165792 568600 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1 < 1387165793 298607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OBVIOUSLY < 1387165811 282307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i. 10 + 1 < 1387165811 934418 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 < 1387165817 428053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1 + i. 10 < 1387165817 742286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1 + i. 10 < 1387165817 944960 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 < 1387165818 365007 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 < 1387165838 62458 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i. 3 * i. 3 < 1387165838 539497 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: |ok < 1387165847 927632 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand anything. < 1387165854 960812 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i. 3 * 3 < 1387165855 548085 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 < 1387165859 597986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) (i. 10) * (i. 10) < 1387165860 292316 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 < 1387165877 188088 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. zip < 1387165887 906965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you looking for a multiplication table < 1387165896 850553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1387165909 86756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just playing < 1387165909 647354 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith (*) [0..9] [0..9] < 1387165910 799956 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81] < 1387165911 261100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1387165934 538669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> liftM2 (*) [0..9] [0..9] < 1387165935 847117 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,0,3,6,9,12... < 1387165940 799891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i. 10 5 < 1387165941 502163 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 0 1 2 3 4 < 1387165941 690888 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 5 6 7 8 9 < 1387165941 691050 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 10 11 12 13 14 < 1387165941 691142 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 15 16 17 18 19 < 1387165941 691235 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 20 21 22 23 24 < 1387165942 248371 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ... < 1387165944 579568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1387165951 402953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i. 3 4 < 1387165951 960831 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 0 1 2 3 < 1387165952 149817 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 4 5 6 7 < 1387165952 149984 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 8 9 10 11 < 1387165963 534765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i. 2 3 4 < 1387165964 118602 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 0 1 2 3 < 1387165964 307259 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 4 5 6 7 < 1387165964 307400 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 8 9 10 11 < 1387165964 307496 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: < 1387165964 307586 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 12 13 14 15 < 1387165964 496913 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ... < 1387165970 69547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that's too spammy < 1387166054 810465 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387166107 552047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) (1 + i. 4) */ (1 + i. 4) < 1387166108 326459 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 1 2 3 4 < 1387166108 515614 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 2 4 6 8 < 1387166108 515787 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 3 6 9 12 < 1387166108 515879 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 4 8 12 16 < 1387169443 275608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quotation found in the comments of http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1622: Sidney Morgenbesser (to B.F. Skinner): “So, you’re telling me it’s wrong to anthropomorphise humans?“ < 1387169520 383247 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a basic way to explain behaviorism < 1387169554 771139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains why googling it led me to http://lesswrong.com/lw/6i5/behaviorism_beware_anthropomorphizing_humans/ < 1387169611 828462 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy, lesswrong. but yeah the idea is basically to say that introspection isn't admissible, so you're left with what you can actually observe and record people doing. < 1387169654 527180 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that avoids thinking and poetry and other human things. < 1387169722 251546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other blog post started with aaronson getting interviewed by yudkowsk[iy]'s institute, btw. < 1387169744 766483 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, sigh < 1387169765 874544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, the first one. < 1387169791 947104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can sigh when you get to lubos motl's response. which i skipped. hth < 1387169803 763111 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm trying to think of morgenbesser, i swear i've heard that name or something like it < 1387169849 112641 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oskar morgenstern. i am officially bad at names. < 1387169895 310958 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :motl's that recurrent guy right < 1387169906 274938 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who says things like, well, that < 1387170044 994066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's pretty recurrently offensive < 1387170051 961986 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1387170095 43006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also by skipping i meant not actually reading much of his blog post. < 1387170105 394558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, wat < 1387170108 552754 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :jconn: nice multiplication table < 1387170109 118766 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: nice multiplication table < 1387170124 370977 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you actually clicked the link? < 1387170132 950653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes. < 1387170144 711746 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why < 1387170159 547477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough previous negative reinforcement. < 1387170162 143258 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that was a good interview < 1387170169 987285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is reading the behaviorist thing now
< 1387170181 252759 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :behaviorist thing? < 1387170190 819493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: on less wrong. < 1387170204 780501 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387170211 923670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not so long. < 1387170226 435169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's not by yudkowsky himself. < 1387170416 19753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[Evolution] is is especially too slow and large-grained to produce human-level behavior: citing my sources in MLA format is an important skill, and I don't want to have to wait until ten generations of my ancestors have perished for citing their sources incorrectly before I can do it right." < 1387170444 957949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph, the "is is" was in the original < 1387170503 687381 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they mention the endocrine system < 1387170547 501715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i can see < 1387170566 987651 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's the behavioral modulator that's faster than genetics but slower than synapses < 1387170601 661500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1387170602 336631 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the article is about skinner's program of explaining thoughts in addition to behavior, and the idea that mental behavior is created by a process akin to evolution. < 1387170618 318442 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't go into detail about mechanisms < 1387170624 606333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quintopia < 1387170626 341766 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1387170638 938368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn quintopia is our resident tl;dr generator. < 1387170643 981830 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1387170654 518641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though it is slow and large-grained, but there is a lot of time available so it doesn't matter if it is slow. If you want to cite your sources in MLA format, then read the book to explain how it is working, or ask someone how. < 1387170657 718882 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome < 1387170667 253110 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should practice gisting anyway < 1387170685 71283 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the point of the quotation is to explain why something as fast and flexible as the nervous system is adaptive. < 1387170704 512576 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not just the nervous system, the whole of behavioral modulation. < 1387170733 202177 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Ah, OK. It also explains the kind of mistake they made by typing "is is". < 1387170789 309585 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's the opposite of an anticipation error. < 1387170794 364014 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would call it a recursion error < 1387170847 829927 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also explains how i just ate part of a toothpick by accident < 1387170855 225987 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of these .MOD files are nine bytes longer than my program expects, while others are the same size the program is expecting. Why is that? < 1387170878 644093 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387170880 216096 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387170883 220332 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called an addition < 1387170896 793085 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the opposite of an anticipation error is a perseveration error < 1387171037 328916 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :A second kind is a semantic bias which shows a tendency for sound bias to create words that are semantically related to other words in the linguistic environment. Motley and Baars (1976) found that a word pair like "get one" will more likely slip to "wet gun" if the pair before it is "damp rifle". These results suggest that we are sensitive to how things are laid out semantically.[14] < 1387171192 953737 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387171278 442445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally the word before "is is" was "it". < 1387171307 860124 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :linguistic errors are the bomb < 1387171630 313084 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so i get a massive error configuring git for install. i don't know what happen. < 1387171693 761046 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does sprunge not work anymore < 1387171748 144213 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprunge is broken the world is falling apart < 1387171807 506594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :500 Internal Server Error < 1387171841 634622 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387171877 828044 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387171908 59495 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you tell me why these errors are happening pls pls pretty pls http://pastie.org/8555134 < 1387171999 425740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: missing .h files? < 1387172014 61728 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: looks like it. but how do i get them? < 1387172076 185653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that i dunno. < 1387172127 232225 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387172176 872318 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they look like pretty standard libs, and i've probably compiled against them before at some point...soooo where did they go? < 1387172204 153532 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387172278 672936 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i mv a directory to somewhere that directory already exists, will it just overwrite that directory in its entirety? < 1387172348 856352 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387172388 389921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: hm, i note they're not in /usr/include on nvg's machines either. < 1387172411 251198 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: because they are in /include i think < 1387172437 888842 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but funny thing...heh...i accidentally mv'd /usr/include to /include the other day >.> < 1387172504 450123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv back? < 1387172518 625923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right hm < 1387172544 741808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: perhaps run a diff between the directories? < 1387172571 136192 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how? /include is gone poof replaced with /usr/include < 1387172587 413512 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need new copies of all those libs < 1387172597 102897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have a /usr/include at all now? < 1387172615 440082 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i have a soft link from there to /include < 1387172621 355017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1387172634 707294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was there an /include previously? < 1387172665 377994 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not < 1387172668 910782 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm jsut guessing here < 1387172679 771339 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but either way i need some libraries that i don't have < 1387172716 64699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :here the files are in /usr/include/linux/stddef.h and /usr/include/c++/4.4/tr1/stdarg.h (also 4.3) < 1387172771 111346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have those, maybe you are just missing the correct search paths? < 1387172782 190070 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i have that < 1387172809 499397 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i check that < 1387172830 861395 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, it found stdio just fine you can see < 1387172860 938912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, when i checked stdio.h only one of those files should actually be included if you have __GNUC__ set < 1387172993 782610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how you set those paths. < 1387173060 327298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommend asking someone who knows this stuff rather than guessing >:) < 1387173280 653122 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am < 1387173282 116471 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1387173300 353559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome < 1387173689 634431 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387174001 966819 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, that's still a great gif. < 1387174186 442484 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :badger :D < 1387174350 793082 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf git wtf < 1387175997 219869 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sprunge seems broken; instead of the URL getting output, I get an HTML document specifying 500 Internal Server Error. < 1387176151 198091 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes we discussed this above < 1387177343 824292 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387177419 866914 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387177591 447359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I didn't notice it < 1387177663 933824 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387177727 289805 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1387177934 889319 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the Elo rating system it is said "In some cases the rating system can discourage game activity for players who wish to protect their rating." Would inflation (like it is in money) help? < 1387178158 858811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like many of the alternative systems that never decrease, either. < 1387178189 896807 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: or decreasing the rating over the time? < 1387178325 157087 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: It could be another possibility < 1387178367 9466 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the easiest fix would be to prefer "newer" ratings. for instance, when lots of players have gained position but haven't played some high ranked old player, the system should simulate their playing that old player and try to guess what the rating would be if they had played. and it should err on the side of underguessing. < 1387178370 95827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think using a rating system with reference dates selected (like epoch dates in astronomy are done) may do < 1387178405 961216 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus the only way to keep your score accurate and not low-balled is to actually play < 1387178473 512883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yes, I did also think of doing something like that, not exactly like your example though < 1387179154 793073 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387179178 568917 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: If there was an "/include", and you did "mv /usr/include /include", you'd just have ended up with /usr/include as /include/include -- but usually there isn't an /include. (I don't have a better opinion on where those files could've gone, but being compiler-specific, they tend live in e.g. /usr/lib/gcc and come with the corresponding compiler package.) < 1387179192 92484 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thanks < 1387179234 219259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan If I were to go the Unicode way, I'd surely go with a multiocular o. < 1387179234 407967 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387179301 668623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie I thought you were annoyed that gurgle looked different from google... < 1387179301 894403 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387179306 47182 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387179329 559308 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387179341 453068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-told < 1387179341 658338 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 1m 47s ago: If I were to go the Unicode way, I'd surely go with a multiocular o. < 1387179381 898551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan MULTIOCULAR < 1387179382 126865 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387179397 716524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie OKAY < 1387179397 905289 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387179401 456198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, perhaps that is too silly. < 1387179411 573528 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why does @messages-whatever do @messages-loud < 1387179414 531737 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1387179414 720650 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1387179420 399524 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1387179429 24880 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of automagic typo correction. < 1387179431 350371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-sound < 1387179431 539114 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 49s ago: MULTIOCULAR < 1387179441 294527 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nessages- < 1387179441 491010 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: messages? messages < 1387179446 764409 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i fucking didn't < 1387179449 715005 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nessages-loud < 1387179449 904044 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1387179450 355287 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only if it's closer (edit-distance-wise) than 2, and unambiguous. < 1387179452 815231 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@butts < 1387179453 4033 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1387179455 229124 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, edit distance. < 1387179488 993550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a special case for an unambiguous prefix, iirc < 1387179497 981815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@lis < 1387179498 170984 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: list listall listchans listmodules listservers < 1387179550 203526 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listclans < 1387179550 430764 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :##categorytheory ##crypto ##logic ##manatee ##megaharem ##proggit ##villagegreen #agda #arch-haskell #csa_uva #darcs #diagrams #dreamlinux-es #esoteric #fedora-haskell #friendly-coders #functionaljava #gentoo-haskell #gentoo-uy #ghc #happs #haskell #haskell-arcade #haskell-blah #haskell-books #haskell-br #haskell-fr #haskell-freebsd #haskell-game < 1387179550 619825 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell-gsoc #haskell-in-depth #haskell-infrastructure #haskell-lens #haskell-llvm #haskell-overflow #haskell-pl #haskell-soc #haskell.au #haskell.cz #haskell.de #haskell.dut #haskell.es #haskell.fi #haskell.hr #haskell.it #haskell.jp #haskell.no #haskell.ru #haskell.se #haskell.tw #haskell_ru #hscraft-srv #jhc #jtiger #learnanycomputerlanguage # < 1387179550 619966 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :learnprogramming #ledger #lesswrong #lw-prog #macosx #macosxdev #rosettacode #scala #scalaz #scannedinavian #snapframework #tanuki #teamunix #unicycling #xmonad #yi < 1387179555 609536 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cripes, sorry < 1387179566 408695 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i even ask about megaharem < 1387179575 588919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dick-balls < 1387179575 777796 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1387179575 967048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU WILL BE SORRY < 1387179586 654368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :##megaharem?? < 1387179593 59729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot of channels. < 1387179611 218942 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf megaharem < 1387179658 214218 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1387179662 576758 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ALL the haskell < 1387179711 948346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrvatski < 1387179717 183972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8753/y3g7.png uh (topic of ##megaharem) < 1387179742 11355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1387179771 666715 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i uh < 1387179780 557432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks liberal < 1387179817 79520 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :patrick seems to have fun < 1387179827 985738 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :these people aren't fictional, are they < 1387179857 19173 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The topic also contains Patrick's TODO list: http://piratepad.net/nB6tkjjE70 < 1387179862 955907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I didn't *go* there, I just /list'd.) < 1387179883 386309 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i forgot you can do that. < 1387179907 109777 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real travesty here is that they didn't use dotty < 1387179919 744207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I have a friend who maintains such a graph using Graphviz < 1387179925 445449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell/2013-10-31.log:16:42:15 @tell elliott Hi! I'd like lambdabot to @join ##megaharem. I was told to pester you for the relevant privileges. < 1387179932 232752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :theirs is a bit too complicated to do in mspaint though < 1387179938 857784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus mspaint is just a big turnoff < 1387179943 712017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot/2013-11-02.log:15:31:31 LeoTal said 1d 22h 49m 15s ago: Hi! I'd like lambdabot to @join ##megaharem. I was told to pester you for the relevant privileges. < 1387179946 715517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot/2013-11-02.log:15:31:57 @join ##megaharem < 1387179961 114560 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually learned dotty from similar diagrams < 1387179964 763828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: I guess you go everywhere you're asked, huh? < 1387179966 583118 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to feel about that suddenly < 1387179971 163296 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: you're a monster. < 1387179973 927718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real question is, where is lambdabot on the graph < 1387180003 62001 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably patrick < 1387180015 738792 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387180050 119087 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a similar graph on #esoteric once, using a thresholded version of the nick-mentioning matrix as an adjacency matrix (and GraphViz, of course), but that didn't really look terribly good. < 1387180062 964941 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the graphs had thousands of nodes. < 1387180073 642448 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :opening an svg forced me to do a hard restart. < 1387180091 383612 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not my most brilliant plan < 1387180157 903031 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: omg that is a great idea < 1387180174 219843 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just have to think about how to make newick into fancy ascii art < 1387180327 976108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't seem to find the graphs I did draw. < 1387180349 384819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It really was just http://zem.fi/ircvis/esoteric/people_mentions.html in graph form, though. < 1387180417 911730 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I should've used something else than a global threshold for the edges, though. Like a per-node maximum degree limit. < 1387180445 100446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though that would be kind of lying.) < 1387180472 40685 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it's patrick < 1387180500 300561 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i would've made something like a phylogenetic tree < 1387180533 823920 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with shorter distances, the more people talk with each other < 1387180566 420974 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not phylogenic /or/ genetic >: < 1387180576 781808 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah < 1387180614 780777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The graph is also pretty clearly not a tree. (See: loops.) < 1387180634 924270 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are right < 1387180636 976126 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... < 1387180648 303602 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make a maximum-weight spanning tree out of it, though. < 1387180653 90635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you wanted a tree, anyway. < 1387180671 121986 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://biologicalmarginalia.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/cladistics-of-doom/ < 1387180732 252546 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so... you are one of these... biological people? < 1387180749 449881 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike all us machine people. < 1387180758 24353 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: working on it < 1387180792 292900 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i have one course as minor subject < 1387180810 427301 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1387180933 517688 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://medicalbioinformatics.de/teaching/item/19710-algorithmic-bioinformatics (won't help you much, because it's german) < 1387180963 923007 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm basically imagining a course in computational cladistics. < 1387180981 99919 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387180986 618532 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you do sequence alignment too. yeah, usual stuff < 1387181000 963163 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty neat but i dunno much bioinformatics beyond implementing bitap on a lark once :p < 1387181020 144643 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh proteins too huh. any folding? < 1387181032 885029 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are on it, currently < 1387181047 162668 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty hard for a computer science student < 1387181049 441255 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's the cliche thing but there must be other things, like molecular cladistics or finding domains or some shit < 1387181070 211533 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: why do people know "bioinformatics" but not "informatics"? < 1387181100 323083 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do they know DNA but not nucleic acids < 1387181138 296209 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really know what 'informatics' is. i just kind of imagine library science < 1387181157 506443 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway what's hard about bioinformatics. everybody's like ten years behind in software development < 1387181159 403379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bioïnformatics < 1387181193 787447 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well, "bioinformatics" is "bioinformatik" in german and "computer science" is "informatik" in german < 1387181201 508423 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty strange for me < 1387181202 437064 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1387181207 263514 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not like that in English. < 1387181224 948107 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess there's 'information technology'. < 1387181236 738446 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you are right, programming stuff is pretty easy < 1387181244 324338 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like lambdabot talks to itself a lot < 1387181248 333313 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though i really hate biojava < 1387181257 419858 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i said, ten years behind. < 1387181267 168373 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my lab uses DOS programs, man < 1387181275 181194 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1387181289 217753 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"they work, so noboy's bothered moving them" < 1387181295 448826 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never heard about webservices before, ever < 1387181307 418066 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's hard to tell whether optbot talked to elliott or fungot more (elliott by a nose) < 1387181307 663471 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: and other variables. ever. ( great game too) http://gamegarage.co.uk/ play/ mousegame/ < 1387181310 662428 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, why the hell do you want to send ugly soap stuff via http? < 1387181325 121239 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soap in java sucks even more than java alone < 1387181336 506661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you in the largest connected component < 1387181336 711661 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: combinator theory: a function with an arbitrary limit on height? < 1387181337 583082 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lab program i actually work on outputs tables as text files full of \ts < 1387181342 48193 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, shut up, you got it good son < 1387181362 93399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawn, kids, etc < 1387181376 747021 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :until now i can't figure out how to make a single soapelement to send as an argument to a method < 1387181385 751666 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not an age thing, it's an oh god does it get worse thing. < 1387181389 382519 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because every soapelement has to have a soapelement as parent < 1387181395 386537 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, at least i'm not using excel. < 1387181431 122426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: why am i even awake < 1387181431 411280 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: get him a helmet!" was the subject of the day! the simulator hangs after 5300 ticks, both as an applet or standalone.)) < 1387181461 632528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if someone kidnapped fungot and substituted a fungot simulator < 1387181461 981457 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't think i'll be of much help to you. using ncurses doesen't mean using panels, because i read the archive, which doesn't really teach anyways!! you don't want to < 1387181476 541960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plan fungot from outer space < 1387181476 806833 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: look there is no stdin stdout, but doesn't do anything about warnings. < 1387181503 623638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :would we even notice < 1387181514 796847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not fungot but another bot of the same name < 1387181514 985637 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i can't read < 1387181518 6847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you the real fungot < 1387181518 292478 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it strikes me also fnord it could be worthwhile to skim the logs from fnord for info on why it's called fnord < 1387181522 371183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that explains a lot (??) < 1387181522 559860 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is the path taken through the fsa) it prints nothing) < 1387181527 747135 :carado!~user4539@mar44-5-88-182-30-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387181569 583168 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: after about 10 sessions or so one bioinformatics student asked why it is so much repetition < 1387181576 175062 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was like "what the fuck, man?" < 1387181576 671257 :PatrickRobotham!uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vjndcgnvlwhbbjcz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387181590 56611 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it < 1387181611 427442 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this course seems to be boring for most of them < 1387181621 197994 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they already had nearly everything < 1387181626 595239 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387181637 648767 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should clarify that i'm not in bioinformatics. i'm the guy spitting out original data in a unique undocumented format that i need you to send to my pal in spain < 1387181650 422623 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387181675 82334 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds equally painful < 1387181685 648010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello i am prince of nigeria i have USD $100,000,000 of bioinformatics data < 1387181686 59789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Most of those lambdabot mentions are from lambdabot asking people to /msg lambdabot @messages. < 1387181701 533100 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm mostly working before the data-reading part so the pain is just in people who don't know how to code, and hey what else is new. < 1387181708 249362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whither ruddy < 1387181709 445773 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh of course < 1387181745 312798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :died on the way to his home planet?? < 1387181757 513875 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe someday i'll have to parse a few hundred measurements of sarcomere length data sorted by salmon acclimation temperature. livin the dream < 1387181759 92928 :PatrickRobotham!uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vjndcgnvlwhbbjcz PART :#esoteric < 1387181759 282135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your home planet < 1387181759 282297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick kmc|notdrunk < 1387181765 261788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: earth < 1387181772 18368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :BatrickRobotham < 1387181783 374905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can jews eat robot ham < 1387181795 963842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hang on just a minute are you drunk < 1387181815 420890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. clever trick but i've found you out < 1387181819 852362 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he was drunk would he mime indicating he was drunk? think logically shachaf < 1387181830 883632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've laid some kind of trap! < 1387181858 636621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no home planet < 1387181863 53498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm from space.........chu space < 1387181883 316244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are drunk you would accidentally mime indicating you are drunk. If you are not drunk then you will do it on purpose instead. < 1387181885 501582 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you call a very very small chu space? < 1387181889 97425 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387181923 927421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: or what if you're lying < 1387181991 229507 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote i'm from space.........chu space < 1387181995 654665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That doesn't matter; the result will be the same if you are lying or not. < 1387181997 781973 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1145) i'm from space.........chu space < 1387182011 905642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: where I'm from, drunk people do integral calculus to try to demonstrate they aren't drunk < 1387182028 860750 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why do sober people do integral calculus < 1387182036 470062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kmc that's not even a good quote < 1387182043 996293 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they study physics? < 1387182049 966421 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(something tells me breathalyzer tests are more accurate than calculus tests) < 1387182052 472485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we will protect you from the terrible secret of chu space < 1387182079 108845 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if shachaf is from chu space, i want to be from Pspace < 1387182091 98150 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387182123 404155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to remember why NPSPACE isn't a thing
< 1387182141 293186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savitch%27s_theorem < 1387182148 916298 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387182152 237900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing about space is that you can reuse space but you can't reuse time < 1387182182 417610 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey that's pretty deep and stuff < 1387182190 282512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also NSPACE(s(n)) = co-NSPACE(s(n)) for any function s(n) ≥ log n ???? what a country < 1387182192 236615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : zzo38: where I'm from, drunk people do integral calculus to try to demonstrate they aren't drunk <-- i recall doing that once. < 1387182197 710272 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a country < 1387182204 537549 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i on't even know what co nspacce is fuck < 1387182222 871616 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you seem drunk < 1387182235 306136 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drunk on compllexity classes < 1387182254 674125 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#P^{my dick} < 1387182273 404328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your dick a useful oracle < 1387182286 603333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw who joined that channel and mentioned #esoteric < 1387182296 141862 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can tell whether or not he want to do it with someone in polynomial time < 1387182300 652843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going to gossip about random innocents at least don't barge in and make a fool of yourself?? < 1387182312 868589 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: #P^{my dick} is actually log :( < 1387182318 909445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i guess they attracted PatrickRobotham? < 1387182322 797854 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao < 1387182339 966643 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that actually mean it's worse, i'm not sure how 'worse' is < 1387182354 303451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your dick is so bad that it reduces the power of any complexity class < 1387182360 178776 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes right < 1387182365 354180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this like... @dril teaches cs < 1387182367 800804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have `relcomed him < 1387182390 624201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: which channe/ < 1387182398 396274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops sorry that 'l' fell over < 1387182405 189810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the chu space papers keep train analogies < 1387182407 837096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :letter hasty placement, we sincerely regret the error < 1387182409 17743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincidence? < 1387182411 959684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ïïïïï < 1387182415 250237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they chu chu analogies? < 1387182415 438964 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am skeptical of the concept of 'too big to be tractable' because i am huge and in traction all the time < 1387182421 251747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to tell < 1387182444 756001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ##megaharem, presumably < 1387182448 131758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387182455 60172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's rude to just bust into another man's harem < 1387182459 314227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(per /msg chanserv access list ##megaharem) < 1387182475 26196 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, illegal, in the original meaning of harem < 1387182480 94205 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch it friends < 1387182499 770535 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are already men in this harem < 1387182505 637416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have we declared any fatwas recently < 1387182518 680122 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i want to see a chick in a niqab with a siren yelling PURDAH VIOLATION < 1387182524 416612 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a siren hat, see < 1387182542 95291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/!\ < 1387182563 261707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :5/!\ < 1387182579 481097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4/⚠\ < 1387182579 669786 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc strictly observes purdah < 1387182584 491880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubtful < 1387182588 63894 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf meanwhile is a freemason < 1387182594 602024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you have stairs in your house < 1387182612 494856 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean uh "who will help the widow's son" < 1387182644 401627 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a stairs < 1387182650 884202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happened to me once < 1387182656 85084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :salvia's a hell of a drug < 1387182673 515293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it good < 1387182676 660856 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1387182709 525272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like existential nightmares that will haunt you for the rest of your life < 1387182712 930595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so then i highly recommend it < 1387182735 790321 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387182740 429910 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the dual of universla nightmares < 1387182750 522985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the universal nightmare is the one we're already living < 1387182759 686813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : letter hasty placement <--- wow I transposed an entire word < 1387182779 271763 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :word hasty placement too < 1387182815 294236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time i transposed the entire world < 1387182822 820422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, I found one "relationship graph" but it's not #esoteric, it's -- actually, never mind, it's too complicated to explain. < 1387182835 127963 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time I shifted the entire universe up and to the left but nobody noticed < 1387182838 218313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is it? < 1387182863 483229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean, I think it's from darkhive data. < 1387182881 312991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's darkhive? < 1387182888 226273 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, that's exactly what I meant. < 1387182902 635927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i begin to understand < 1387182943 553648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: actually we noticed but emmy noether got us all to ignore it < 1387182955 76861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's been much relationship involvement between #esoteric members... unless I'm missing something < 1387182981 746649 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387183033 761747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :until you and shachaf started hanging out i would have been hard pressed to remember anyone who'd even met < 1387183033 950542 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387183052 44028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've met ineiros, but that doesn't really count for much. < 1387183064 222318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also mooz, but. < 1387183090 168011 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Deewiant's allegedly seen me. < 1387183094 920618 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've herded a couple of lurkers onto the channel from York < 1387183102 335935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1387183125 449912 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the weirdest idea that oklopol and oerjan met somewhere in Norway, but perhaps I dreamed that. < 1387183151 312870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that didn't happen < 1387183163 566988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps oklopol met someone else, then. < 1387183245 399500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have met 5 people in this channel and several people who used to be in this channel but are no more < 1387183261 832452 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might theoretically have met atehwa somewhere, but that's not certain at all. < 1387183267 884304 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387183341 326066 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have met two lurkers. < 1387183350 411301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i failed to meet any of you when I was in .fi < 1387183355 53774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I've met shachaf and Gracenotes < 1387183357 789466 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have met someone who has met elliott, and probably someone who has met ais523 < 1387183360 652395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and douglass_ < 1387183362 182524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I live with douglass_ < 1387183366 762609 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387183374 670492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and copumpkin < 1387183379 159208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1387183519 14473 :Effilry!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1387183525 879058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, it's not a completely edgeless graph. < 1387183527 203258 :Effilry!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly NICK :FireFly < 1387183527 454843 :carado!~user4539@mar44-5-88-182-30-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387183538 833962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the in-person-meeting graph? < 1387183552 265038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo the hug graph < 1387183558 665644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah douglass_ has also met shachaf and Gracenotes; the four of us played mölkky together in the park, it was great < 1387183566 611458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe she's even met copumpkin < 1387183567 699924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was also a dog < 1387183579 82647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "relationship" graph. I mean, we're going to have to extend that to "ever met in real life" to get at least something going. < 1387183604 907775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does your house have mölkky things yet < 1387183608 124928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: to say nothing of the dog < 1387183619 96404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oopse i have failed to say nothing of the dog < 1387183623 647830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i did read that book < 1387183654 83881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1387183656 21425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks 2 u < 1387183664 817588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it hasn't :/ < 1387183687 804533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How not to speak of dogs" by Dr. Zwinglish Gerademeister < 1387183693 383719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait which book < 1387183706 557439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :three men in a boat to say &c. < 1387183709 120926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have read it < 1387183719 655546 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it hasn't :/" was re: mölkky-things < 1387183727 69146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's _Three Men in a Boat (To Say Nothing of the Dog)_ by Jerome K. Jerome < 1387183732 357871 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mölkky-þing < 1387183734 144622 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see people use combinators inside TH expressions < 1387183738 693001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's also _To Say Nothing of the Dog_ by Connie Willis < 1387183744 22960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh i don't know this one < 1387183745 601483 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than falling back on making quasiquoters < 1387183745 917710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've read both < 1387183756 795039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it good < 1387183759 546951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter < 1387183814 219639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i don't remember it v. well it was over a decade ago that i read it and also not in english so i didn't even remember that that was the title < 1387183821 738651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think i enjoyed it < 1387183839 766520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a cat plague in it that killed all cats on earth so they went back in time to bring cats from the past < 1387183850 25474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that?? < 1387183859 640594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they had to find cats that wouldn't cause paradoxes < 1387183872 492367 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they got a dog instead? < 1387183875 745029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i making things up < 1387183878 419883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to say < 1387183968 945385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I pay Jerome so much in royalties," the publisher told a friend, "I cannot imagine what becomes of all the copies of that book I issue. I often think the public must eat them." < 1387183971 376566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's v. confusing < 1387183993 264960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it turned out that the butler did it all along < 1387184026 968599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or other things i can't remember < 1387184052 95176 :carado!~user4539@mar44-5-88-182-30-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387184094 205136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Say_Nothing_of_the_Dog < 1387184100 491787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoilers! < 1387184139 399422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Win Butler did it < 1387184158 74099 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ... distrust many of the decisions of the Yesod framework, but if I could figure out how to make combinator based routes for Yesod for use in TH without the QQ, that would be nice < 1387184231 925886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also someone in #cslounge-books recommended another book by the same author the other day or something < 1387184295 616920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know that's a channel < 1387184349 703086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it only came into existence somewhat recently < 1387184432 285871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and also the "time continuum" is conscious or something in order to correct paradoxes < 1387184435 310844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or who even knows < 1387184541 986456 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like you're not supposed to think too much about how/what that is, just that it does < 1387184554 931828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like i'm supposed to go to sleep < 1387184559 732486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :♞ < 1387184604 512591 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, judging by the time I'm supposed to go to work < 1387184694 934410 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, I never cleared out the trainers on this route < 1387184705 190397 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I've got my level 49 Snorlax into a battle < 1387184710 50108 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Against a level 9 Magikarp < 1387184746 538479 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a level 49 snot salmon? sounds fierce < 1387184791 265176 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: playing X/Y? < 1387184831 624760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: All Pokemen names in highlight, eh? < 1387184842 942285 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1387184904 783736 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387185170 763078 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387185355 802589 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, yep < 1387185660 921601 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387185771 16699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1387186197 934191 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: trailing zeros and saturated subtraction, understood, great. < 1387186780 952999 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387187021 355866 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!SENT_START OF U. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. HAVE A BUYBACK OF YOUTH !SENT_END riiight < 1387187054 335896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would that i could < 1387187075 75288 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you still have the buyback of youth? < 1387187075 435792 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: nice to see that xml uses explicit renaming). using ( require ( lib " errortrace.ss" " errortrace")) doesn't do anything for the computed result < 1387187133 827114 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!SENT_START U. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. AGE BOY GEORGE K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. !SENT_END < 1387187141 541653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's not very good. < 1387187293 162829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with the U's and K's < 1387187330 379219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'unno. < 1387187359 725612 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes there's also I. and A. < 1387187393 874116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also obsessed with buybacks. < 1387187396 94467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!SENT_START A U. K. K. K. K. YOU BUY BACK OF A YEAR THEY HAVE YOU BUY BACK BACK !SENT_END < 1387187409 895657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!SENT_START BACK OF A BOY HAVE A YEAR BUYBACK OF YOUTH BY JACK I. K. K. !SENT_END < 1387187442 686239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: It makes less sense than you! < 1387187442 875041 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: actually english has that version too: " utility" only if you want to < 1387187457 359252 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep. < 1387187556 886835 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387187556 887005 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387187675 70177 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387187675 258994 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1387188289 705270 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387188756 181561 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1387188985 446719 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1387192216 760559 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387192549 729042 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387193022 396678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL: "The mouse visual cortex is like the smartphone of neuroscience. Everyone feels the need to get one, but it remains to be seen if it's a convenience or a distraction." < 1387195154 792267 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@76.179.150.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387195990 102508 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387196152 553495 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@76.179.150.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387197091 103640 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387197247 497776 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387198693 112997 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387199486 348709 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387199622 853366 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387199671 848562 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387199733 466192 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387199751 76240 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1387200071 150174 :Timwi!~Timwi@178.19.210.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387200117 693653 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387200132 217032 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387200135 994152 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good snowy morning! < 1387200142 360474 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1387200142 558156 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2d 11h 43m 58s ago: You misspelled exercise on your user page < 1387200142 558340 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2d 11h 18m 15s ago: good unpentadactyl morning! <-- my condolences on losing a finger < 1387200142 558435 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan asked 2d 10h 48m 53s ago: normally distributed glazed eyes served over bouchées of surreal bread rolls. <-- are you attempting to create québécois/r'lyehan fusion cuisine < 1387200178 925835 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan oops. < 1387200179 123120 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387200194 151700 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I'm stuck with a prosthetic vimperator. < 1387200194 354728 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387200206 734865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan la la la ♪ < 1387200206 932085 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387200209 920657 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387200634 946735 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387200927 939977 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387201374 45026 :atriq!5c177beb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.23.123.235 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387201443 656733 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellooodl. atangevlobriq. < 1387201486 989984 :atriq!5c177beb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.23.123.235 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1387203549 820166 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387203707 780514 :natalybarel!~natalybar@91.210.100.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387203744 781053 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387203832 397591 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387203833 795478 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387203836 90608 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387203848 450784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You’re invited to try out the R2014a Prerelease with MATLAB" but I'm not sure I want to :/ < 1387203852 120359 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :boily < 1387203936 530810 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you know you want to feel the MATLAB. < 1387203976 892080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :R2014a! < 1387204033 402587 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you understand matlab? < 1387204033 614689 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i found it much more complicated than it needs to be public < 1387204041 102968 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there ↑ < 1387204058 879765 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're certainly right about that. Whatever that means. < 1387204059 82673 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: false, fnord) at the mzscheme source code:). < 1387204062 202407 :ternkustik!~ternkusti@91.210.101.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387204068 133036 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ternkustik < 1387204070 964720 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07ternkustik: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09irc.dal.net.) < 1387204473 236253 :ternkustik!~ternkusti@91.210.101.130 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387204613 831301 :natalybarel!~natalybar@91.210.100.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387205448 737501 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387205536 990926 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :small question: how is Thue somehow enabled with nondeterminism? I'm confused by the example given. < 1387205550 117179 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it expresses nondeterminism, but it doesn't make sense. < 1387205578 261892 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the two conflicting definitions somehow in some sort of race condition or something? < 1387205717 765891 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387205918 438537 :RJones_!~root@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387205979 544810 :RJones_!~root@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us NICK :RJones < 1387206619 519461 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're lucky → http://www.cisco.com/ < 1387206676 795483 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woah. < 1387206706 815503 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN 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PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you even netsplit, bro? < 1387207658 653353 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and do you? i know i have seen that multiple times, though < 1387207699 79539 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I did, about one hour ago. < 1387207699 281158 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hardware also helps in a whole directory as a file system < 1387208066 744679 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-164-141.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387208237 64321 :RJones_!~root@169.244.180.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387208237 305072 :RJones_!~root@169.244.180.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1387208237 507769 :RJones_!~root@169.244.180.190 PART :#esoteric < 1387208344 973645 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387208346 423627 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387208346 423769 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :*.net *.split < 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Netsplit everywhere. < 1387210886 696558 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 900593 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 900727 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.7.205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 900797 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 900869 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 900934 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 901000 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 901065 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-164-141.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 901131 :iamcal!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yhwrnorgqwyqcgel JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 901207 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 901274 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 901376 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 901445 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vwmpyawduhezrfam JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 901511 :Halite!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bzajfyfyjqtahkbn JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210894 731289 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: what don't you get about thue's nondeterminism < 1387210907 27808 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :how it works. < 1387210920 549040 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand it's a rewrite system and everything but.. < 1387210953 237514 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :does outputting symbols suddenly trigger a race condition or something? < 1387210955 171973 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that if more than one rule cn apply you have to pick one. < 1387210962 638380 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1387210969 262840 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh. < 1387210971 338423 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.. < 1387210989 863822 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211010 530168 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :so underneath you're just essentially using something like an RNG to select which definition to use. < 1387211039 326994 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something to that effect to make said decision. < 1387211045 676990 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. it's just not defined. < 1387211060 45231 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could always pick the first one, or always pick the last one, or use an RNG on alternate tuesdays. < 1387211066 313838 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387211072 215921 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright. < 1387211076 59025 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211078 743788 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in, say, the javascript implementation.. < 1387211083 448130 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I'm wondering. < 1387211112 627470 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean abstractly yes it's undefined but my real gripe was in the implementation :P < 1387211127 46929 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211132 581159 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Which one? < 1387211133 654995 :Gracenotes_!~person@192.241.203.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211141 360519 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one at "lolwh.at"? < 1387211151 490348 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.archive.org/web/20031210145310/http://cyberspace.org/~lament/thue.html < 1387211160 134817 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s the one that's linked on the wiki page. < 1387211168 612052 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one on Esolang gives me a 403. < 1387211217 549932 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211221 875960 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like it picks a rule randomly. < 1387211241 132256 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :I initially thought it was some kind of race condition setup. < 1387211244 392654 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387211244 599482 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387211247 272033 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :But. < 1387211254 411369 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does look just.. random. < 1387211265 104301 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"var selected = random_choice(matching_rules)" < 1387211282 907985 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1387211321 715546 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211348 839920 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387211408 451520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211467 806040 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211520 344825 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387211688 79780 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211771 249926 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1387212258 117680 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387212686 507532 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily < 1387213295 111625 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387213541 472514 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387213672 783726 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387213878 198402 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387214082 799862 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org NICK :polytone < 1387214165 837280 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387214550 591747 :iksfiles!~iksfiles@91.210.102.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387214616 953427 :Timwi!~Timwi@178.19.210.162 QUIT : < 1387214721 798643 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com NICK :`^_^v < 1387214727 14655 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387214760 9261 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387214772 472548 :iksfiles!~iksfiles@91.210.102.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387215083 822432 :RJones!~root@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387215217 95538 :atriq!5c177beb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.23.123.235 QUIT :Quit: Start anime transformation sequence! < 1387215307 446720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387215387 3643 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387215437 812912 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387215735 826138 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387216689 480512 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387216761 237410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hintopia. < 1387217783 906418 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387218076 486 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387218353 853575 :shemarov!~shemarov@91.210.102.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387218388 55491 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome shemarov < 1387218390 604728 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04shemarov: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08irc.dal.net.) < 1387218423 629814 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wait. didn't I `relcome you already this morning? < 1387218433 936556 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/shachaf/shemarov/ < 1387218439 668739 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No, you've never `relcomed me. < 1387218444 233507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one has. < 1387218451 705102 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but I mistabcompleted you. < 1387218456 764426 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome shachaf < 1387218459 305374 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08shachaf: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02irc.dal.net.) < 1387218463 226183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks boily < 1387218464 465393 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, boily. Thoily. < 1387218499 375077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "new wood stoves" would be a good name for a ban < 1387218574 577205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1387218615 713670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :V. fancy, named bans. < 1387218634 371683 :shemarov!~shemarov@91.210.102.11 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387218687 365681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*!*@* would be a good name for a ban < 1387218829 216771 :muitnep!~muitnep@91.210.102.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387218838 388629 :muitnep!~muitnep@91.210.102.35 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387219130 881704 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387219316 717 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387219490 362919 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick Question < 1387219517 529890 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to do modulo 2 in brainfuck < 1387219523 412417 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the values 0,1 and 2 < 1387219535 193944 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if(cell == 2) cell = 0 would work too < 1387219661 224887 :nikeoxi!~nikeoxi@91.210.101.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387219669 257308 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1387219694 204420 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean binary BF or something else < 1387219769 898081 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1387219777 344606 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but doesn't matter anyway < 1387219779 724057 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spacefish is TC < 1387219795 28811 :nikeoxi!~nikeoxi@91.210.101.172 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387219823 742698 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_algorithms#x_.3D_x_.3D.3D_y, where y = 1? < 1387219895 753037 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, someone strange is doing something weird on IRC from 91.210.101.0/24...) < 1387219960 594457 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1387219964 69052 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 100% TC. < 1387219964 990125 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But < 1387219967 882440 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387219977 14416 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/Hf6likTu < 1387219982 622230 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- that would be the principle < 1387219999 524388 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed 8 is the highest value < 1387220005 927408 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the same thing should apply to 255 as well < 1387220009 356768 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need more spacing < 1387220072 756081 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you need a new cell, you set up the spacing < 1387220083 797965 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and subtract 6 (the constant pre-known distortion) from it < 1387220084 263 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387220087 416964 :dmarat!~dmarat@91.210.101.56 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387220100 802239 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dmarat: who are you exactly? < 1387220123 200816 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python print(31 /2) < 1387220124 715920 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :python: can't open file 'print(31 /2)': [Errno 2] No such file or directory < 1387220132 984370 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python "print (31 /2)" < 1387220134 453848 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :python: can't open file '"print (31 /2)"': [Errno 2] No such file or directory < 1387220138 103024 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1387220139 872138 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1387220143 882410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python -c 'print(31/2)' < 1387220145 356848 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File "", line 1 \ 'print(31/2)' \ ^ \ IndentationError: unexpected indent < 1387220149 76475 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1387220152 967842 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles HackEgo
< 1387220161 471225 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 31 `div` 2 < 1387220162 692144 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c "print(31 / 2)" < 1387220163 463914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'print(31/2)' < 1387220164 362914 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 < 1387220164 872822 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 < 1387220168 261297 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1387220174 371283 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION facepalms
< 1387220176 613363 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 31 `div` 2 < 1387220177 466897 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 < 1387220184 887087 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lood < 1387220185 91723 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2d 16h 44m 57s ago: (Control.Arrow.>>>) < 1387220197 999073 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: well, there is also [->+>-[>+>>]>[+[-<+>]>+>>]<<<<<<] for divmodding. < 1387220199 827337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (Control.Category.>>>) < 1387220201 45292 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category cat => cat a b -> cat b c -> cat a c < 1387220206 364855 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Thanks! < 1387220206 571054 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387220272 827484 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387220273 500043 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I don't think that's what I was looking for :P < 1387220297 324062 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I _think_ I wanted (a -> b) -> (c -> a) -> (c -> b) < 1387220311 139678 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :composition? < 1387220325 614532 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes.. wait.. I may have it backwards. < 1387220335 372737 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip (.) ofc < 1387220337 901511 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was looking for something like F#'s |> operator, out of curiousity < 1387220347 127294 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ain't got time for that nerd shit < 1387220361 784222 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike you are my favorite person. < 1387220372 429896 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, mode of transportation < 1387220375 883602 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/QCN9hF7a < 1387220382 69887 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works for 255 too < 1387220386 744577 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sews wedding dresses for mrhmouse and Bike
< 1387220393 355246 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387220396 816122 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, can I borrow your mapole? < 1387220403 292857 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm an athlete, everybody loves me < 1387220431 104571 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now one just needs to find a way to determine when to allocate more memory < 1387220451 796384 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's a finite state machine < 1387220465 806429 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: please yourself, go nuts, have fun, enjoy the mapole! < 1387220505 594710 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know how much memory your program needs, you can do the space initialization at program start < 1387220546 58218 :dmarat!~dmarat@91.210.101.56 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387220550 224169 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles boily
< 1387220559 154753 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives it back
< 1387220589 264325 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe one can check if one has wrapped around < 1387220593 869574 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then allocate more memory < 1387220600 232579 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: bleh :p < 1387220603 402341 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would require to perform a memory check after every > or < < 1387220606 745050 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hey < 1387220640 356034 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you check in Brainfuck for a certain cell value without using any other cell? < 1387220660 891074 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without changing it? < 1387220678 279858 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1387220687 500980 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :after the check it must have the same value as before the check < 1387220700 181942 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, how are you outputting a result then. < 1387220706 924286 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could then set 'tape end' markers < 1387220715 953055 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and after every > or < you check if you are at the end of the tape < 1387220720 598707 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then just allocate more memory < 1387220743 12069 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387220788 13618 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1387220798 59510 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1387220801 276248 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use other cells < 1387220805 93249 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1387220835 532328 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use the spacing cells between real cells for temporary values < 1387220844 154173 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have to set them to 0 after you're done < 1387220971 652814 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that still doesn't explain output. < 1387221042 484016 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1387221049 911860 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll leave it to some bf-expert to figure out the rest :D < 1387221334 275677 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1387221381 981402 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387221384 157597 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :My bachelor thesis is gonna be about simulating masses of people in buildings < 1387221470 922565 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to determine if the building is capable of handling thousands of people walking different routes without jamming up < 1387221474 678317 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like train stations < 1387221512 893051 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I'm actually doing the whole bachelor stuff < 1387221764 302133 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387221781 19227 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387222037 340359 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1387222768 766233 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-164-141.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh masses of people < 1387222778 208833 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-164-141.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it < 1387222821 823530 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "groups of lots of people" < 1387222863 671266 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are calculations easier if you consider masses of groups of lots of people as a continous fluid? < 1387222883 478879 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mayb < 1387222919 886099 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the flow of people from floor to floor, gushing down staircases like the Niagara :D < 1387222944 796082 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387222946 603683 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a differential equation based approach < 1387223062 103004 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Navier-Stokes the liquid out of that approach. < 1387223072 777929 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not < 1387223082 434759 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Navier-Stokes sounds sciency < 1387223181 377615 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :engineeringly sciency. < 1387223232 592316 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea of sciency stuff < 1387223278 509692 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily < 1387223288 935535 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hintopia. < 1387223355 457970 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, a map of a subway is not an optimal mouse pad for optical mice < 1387223378 647917 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cursor tends to follow the subway lines < 1387223396 555277 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i notice you have written some interpreters in python others in ruby. what do you do your work code in? < 1387223474 826618 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387223497 782260 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: python. < 1387223527 220026 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :aubergine needs a python interp < 1387223540 135132 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had my ruby phase when I was younger, back when I was still in Cégep. I'd say... 16 to 18 year old. < 1387223554 610116 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aubergine does need a python interp. < 1387223558 815620 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387223566 471620 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write all interpreters in brainfuck < 1387223570 499877 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a Haskell one. I could create an Aubergine monad :D < 1387223590 281149 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is too easy =P < 1387223594 72296 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't python it, i will eventually < 1387223618 493745 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, there's an ISO Ruby nowadays < 1387223633 655392 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: suit yourself! (or the Québécois version: «gâte toé!») < 1387223637 797647 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: say what? < 1387223658 715305 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is groovy < 1387223679 380414 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm guessing grails is groovy on rails < 1387223700 177310 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if I read more I expect to find it deprecated and completely incompatible with any ruby version that the rubyites are willing to use, it's already a year old after all) < 1387223774 936577 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: e.g. http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=59579 < 1387223914 699842 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only CAD 283.60! < 1387224788 664135 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been playing around with something like delimited continuations and they are the most fun and mindbending ever < 1387224834 10274 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387225135 493003 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(reset (list 1 (reset (list 2 (shift k (list 3 (funcall (k 4) 5))) (list 6 (shift w #'w)))))) => (1 (3 (2 4 (6 5)))) < 1387226007 819533 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310] < 1387226096 881896 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387227133 410432 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387227636 441591 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :could anyone give step-by-step instructions for how one would construct Truth-machine in Onoz? < 1387227870 739511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god delimited continuations < 1387228100 118237 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387228139 830150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i've given up on understanding them :/ < 1387228241 216332 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just used a macro to make my mock version of shift reset < 1387228269 271751 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't /that/ hard to understand < 1387228273 396474 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1387228421 348029 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387228459 481675 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork is beginning to show multiple personalities, one of them understanding delimited continuations. < 1387228538 387069 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can successfully walk through them, it's just sometimes they don't do what I expect until I do < 1387229017 564686 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is ais523. he'd know how to construct an infinite loop which is not provably so < 1387229046 646104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION uses a delimited continuation to jump to another timeline where he understands delimited continuations
< 1387229190 8420 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387229238 872062 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're really fun to nest < 1387229631 545309 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387229672 787276 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387229954 769802 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387230077 356051 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: UNDELIMITED CHICKEN < 1387230078 664804 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387231574 911346 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387232079 445922 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387233124 995761 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reglangs do people in #esoteric use? < 1387233167 727035 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387233202 889487 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387233215 723231 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387233227 792145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-eso langs? < 1387233352 881754 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes. < 1387233375 75375 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387233391 817684 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387233444 994991 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know many here use Haskell, but talk earlier regarding Python, Ruby, Groovy, etc has me interested in what else is in use. I know that you, at least, use Rust < 1387233527 292096 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am currently forced to use Python < 1387233544 595513 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: for university? < 1387233547 722746 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aye < 1387233550 582704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to write Haskell quite often, but not lately < 1387233661 251840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lately it's mostly Rust, Python, C, Bash, GNU Make, JavaScript, x86 assembly < 1387233666 221838 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisps for fuckwithing, matlab at woik < 1387233679 761801 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i have a few things in verilog and javascript i should really finish. < 1387233810 834733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have been paid to write perl, haskell, c, c++, java, assembly, shell, make, rust, javascript, prolly some others < 1387233813 882525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme if being a TA counts < 1387233831 371275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when you were paid to write nops < 1387233847 560432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1387233969 462869 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I currently use C#, CoffeeScript, and D most often. I'm learning Erlang & OCaml, and I have to use C#/JavaScript/T-SQL at work. < 1387234009 985770 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387234044 74082 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you were paid to write makefiles? specifically for the makefiles, or were they part of other projects you were on? < 1387234072 753250 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a programming project wth one person working specifically n the build process would be kind of neat. < 1387234085 936959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's common on large projects < 1387234097 817228 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it rapidly grows to be a full-time job < 1387234106 204071 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if you support lots of platforms < 1387234116 603441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: part of other projects < 1387234188 494734 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Rust have a dependency management system? I've been language-hopping lately looking for a language that I like _and_ that has a good dep manager. < 1387234227 890022 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like NPM for NodeJS, Ruby Gems, D's Dub, Rebar, etc etc.. < 1387234362 715708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1387234400 571981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this rustpkg thing but it's not very complete < 1387234432 440684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't know about the current pace of development, since the main developer left Mozilla < 1387234454 317664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could look for docs or ask in #rust on irc.mozilla.org; they probably have a better idea how capable it is < 1387234457 305469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only used it a little < 1387234495 274032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the project I work on uses Make for the top-level build, and does build some individual dependencies with rustpkg, but we're having problems with it and we're probably switching away < 1387234523 744696 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was only curious; Rust struck me as too low-level for my needs when I checked it out ages ago. Though their pointer types seem far nicer than C++ < 1387234548 711927 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387234550 14465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a low-level language, yeah, though it's memory safe at the same time, which is really cool < 1387234578 453018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, the pointer types express concepts which exist in C and C++, but in those languages they exist mostly in the programmer's head and can't be checked automatically < 1387234589 12528 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1387234589 201500 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1387234668 531164 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember thinking that was useful (owned pointers, I think they're called?) < 1387234715 952415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah C also has a notion of pointers which transfer ownership vs. those which don't < 1387234732 375515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C or just C programmers? < 1387234733 101774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, strdup takes the latter and returns the former < 1387234747 61201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's zero compiler checking and if you screw it up you corrupt memory < 1387234756 264961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, C APIs anyway < 1387234770 544017 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, so it's not part of the language spec like in Rusy < 1387234784 296014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387234784 587062 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/sy/st < 1387234793 800255 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo, C! < 1387234800 392795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mention this by way of heading off the criticism (not from you, but in general) that Rust has too many pointer types < 1387234806 872424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: s|$|/| < 1387234807 77730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand i heard that you can't do self.tree = in rust < 1387234808 755098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just codifying and checking things that already exist < 1387234831 819349 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but that yields "Rus", no? < 1387234844 122817 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: No, it just adds the / you were missing. < 1387234852 263586 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: d'oh! < 1387234880 66815 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kievan rus't < 1387234906 440347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: regexes operating on regexes? that should be an esolang, oh wait < 1387234980 866005 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly I'd prefer to use C# more at home, but the most popular package manager has some issues on Mono < 1387235023 224913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1387235038 73927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, C# seems like a pretty good language, but I'm scared off using it more due to my impression that non-MS tools are half-baked < 1387235086 257402 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I can't vouch for MonoDevelop, if that's what you mean. I primarily use Vim & gmcs directly < 1387235107 137525 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mono itself is pretty mature, though. < 1387235139 835573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good < 1387235142 755493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this package manager isn't? < 1387235159 521721 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that NuGet (the MS package manager) does things like hardcode paths to look for config files (%AppData%\LocalLow\something) < 1387235172 551172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1387235190 519083 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's more on the NuGet devs :/ < 1387235221 263939 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, NuGet really shouldn't have existed in the first place.. there was already a package manager in place that works cross-platform, but MS rolled their own < 1387235272 416518 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Quit: out for a bit < 1387235350 97050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1387235364 632505 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2013/12/16/the-age-of-bitcoins-is-over/ < 1387235477 567339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lot < 1387235477 794588 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 9h 48m 18s ago: oops. < 1387235477 983357 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 9h 48m 3s ago: I'm stuck with a prosthetic vimperator. < 1387235477 983504 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 9h 47m 50s ago: la la la ♪ < 1387235477 983597 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse said 4h 14m 31s ago: Thanks! < 1387237285 463686 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.moertel.com/posts/2013-12-14-great-old-timey-game-programming-hack.html fun stuff < 1387237399 223406 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387237499 192021 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh gosh, the messing with the stack pointer thing. that reminds me of a post I saw once on how to get 8 registers on x86 < 1387237509 63979 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by stuffing the stack pointer in a memory location and using esp as a register < 1387237509 616756 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid. < 1387237513 362156 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1387237527 597628 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just kind of in awe that there was a "zero page" you could make be anywhere < 1387237532 226429 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounded like the kind of thing that could make the OS hate you < 1387237545 788242 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, yeah, I still don't really understand the zero page thing, like, I've seen it in documentation for these old things but it's weird < 1387237607 450857 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :instructions with a single byte offset can access the zero page in one cycle less than an instruction with two bytes offset < 1387237613 391557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing has an OS? < 1387237622 786082 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(due to being one byte smaller) < 1387237628 564496 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well like, 6502 had two-byte addressing, where each one-byte block was a "page", and there was an addressing mode where you just use the second byte and the first byte is zero. < 1387237631 541081 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or dp, on this thing < 1387237818 680161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AVR is kind of like that too < 1387237831 750683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "registers" are just the first n bytes of RAM, with a special compact addressing mode < 1387237878 113091 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, zero page. < 1387237918 67877 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in Metroid all your stats were in the zp, as i remember < 1387238010 944843 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what'cha discussin'. < 1387238060 95548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic. < 1387238066 43262 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :6502 you say < 1387238089 475585 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :index registers ftw. < 1387239081 299537 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387239206 791041 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387241369 18558 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387241386 958111 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387241637 601233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://web.archive.org/web/20031210145310/http://cyberspace.org/~lament/thue.html <-- hm although both original links are dead, wayback has a younger capture of the esolang one. although they're probably identical code anyway. < 1387241648 574524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thue.stanford.edu/ < 1387241667 252468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thue.stanford.edu/puzzle.html < 1387241667 759149 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1387241707 332586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: seems like a different one < 1387241724 895790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad < 1387241893 372342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION updates to use our handy wayback template
< 1387241944 546886 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.7.205 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1387241961 896859 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about rewrite systems makes me happy. < 1387242016 892255 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I was studying the process behind markov algorithms I learned all sorts of cool things you can do using them, even though it is a bit unintuitive at first. < 1387242160 431526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did we point you to /// yet (probably) < 1387242173 167985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is heavily biased, of course
< 1387242186 330775 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :being biased towards /// is sensible < 1387242194 523486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep! < 1387242199 752454 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've looked briefly at /// < 1387242205 100727 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I assume you're the creator) < 1387242212 908051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's just asking for a slanted view, really < 1387242214 393471 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he at least wrote some algorithms < 1387242220 32625 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut uppppp < 1387242224 509968 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurrrr. < 1387242224 979474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: not the creator but the main programmer < 1387242236 849127 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. < 1387242242 279458 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume someone's made a \\\ already? < 1387242245 409757 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ||| < 1387242277 656445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hm i don't _recall_ so. < 1387242297 814200 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this might be a good time to mention i'm amazed this channel doesn't have a search-for-esolang function < 1387242313 685531 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone knows how unary minus mixes with list subscripts in Python? < 1387242314 321542 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387242330 716025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wiki < 1387242332 277301 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/wiki: No such file or directory < 1387242339 981159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the way you'd expect, of course < 1387242344 302482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo could have had, i guess < 1387242352 102204 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I mean like -i[0] < 1387242362 732803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387242366 329194 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which seems to work the way I expect < 1387242373 891069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go, then < 1387242397 749794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i was thinking of negative indexing, which doesn't actually work the way you'd expect) < 1387242410 726641 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it count from the end < 1387242449 728714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387242497 723716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: where's my olist < 1387242507 197092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog `olist < 1387242538 540616 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387242545 93521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1387242551 933099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/*log* < 1387242553 639545 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/anonlog \ bin/etymology \ bin/log \ bin/logurl \ bin/pastalog \ bin/pastelog \ bin/pastelogs \ bin/pastlog \ bin/randomanonlog \ bin/searchlog < 1387242555 615107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you people < 1387242566 369803 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randomanonlog < 1387242570 949011 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck can be compiled to machine code.. that's faster < 1387242576 967905 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randomanonlog < 1387242580 988686 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFK all < 1387242582 342257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randomanonlog < 1387242586 686130 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saturday shall be red fedora day! < 1387242596 34870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randomanonlog < 1387242596 332631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randomanonlog < 1387242596 556356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randomanonlog < 1387242596 822644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randomanonlog < 1387242597 16854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randomanonlog < 1387242604 305979 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(recording my gf, don't worry) < 1387242605 236177 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Pls fix with analytical logical skills not zapping < 1387242605 421729 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, there are very few of new concepts there. still interesting to write a shortest hello-world and a quine :) < 1387242605 607862 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :85 <-- gentoo < 1387242605 793609 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/,/m/ < 1387242639 144861 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a mysterious function. < 1387242652 559495 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: why use skills if you can use zapping? < 1387242653 155694 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ( define it " want to learn two languages at once, ecraven. internally to t, because fixnums are usually not modified very frequently. < 1387242666 177192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : kmc: "new wood stoves" would be a good name for a ban <-- I'LL TRY TO KEEP THAT IN MIND < 1387242745 296267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :context: 10:17 I believe SF bans new wood stoves but does not yet require removing existing ones. < 1387242798 60449 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :context :( < 1387242822 137544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean it wasn't a typo? freaky. < 1387242849 947383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sry < 1387242874 70770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: would banning me make you feel better < 1387243013 708786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not banning wood stoves in norway yet, but there's some serious environmental pollution control < 1387243027 28384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: doubtful < 1387243061 465563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now the pain killers kicking in otoh... < 1387243132 813536 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387243169 773565 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/17/science/earth/outsider-challenges-papers-on-growth-of-dinosaurs.html not all is well in the land of dinos < 1387243180 128832 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myhrvold sure is an eclectic dude. < 1387243289 961124 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387243434 193725 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387243461 653713 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387243497 825198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :avant-garde cuisine and patent law should _not_ be mixed hth < 1387243768 423453 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Don't you just change "assertEquals(x, y)" to "it(x).should().equal(y)" ?" < 1387243845 113460 :carado!~user4539@mar44-5-88-182-30-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387243896 20065 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sensible < 1387244240 29707 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1387244492 32739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: lol now your library is Elegant™ < 1387244515 307713 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-4.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387244673 867587 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fwiw I just quoted someone replying to PLT_Hulk) < 1387244696 143949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: the thing about stack pointer reminds me of the (admittedly less extreme) hack where Linux puts a task-specific data structure at the end of the 8 kB aligned kernel stack, so you can get its address by masking the stack pointer < 1387244714 673146 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, sneaky < 1387244722 144322 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's like athread local storage type thing with stacks? < 1387244729 679328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :very useful in exploit code too! :3 < 1387244748 650028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387244767 122772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray for sneaky things < 1387244780 829234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does HackEgo have a database of sneaky things like lambdabot does < 1387244803 872483 :realz!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387244820 623861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387244822 929005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's lambdabot's < 1387244828 412859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where sneaky < 1387244828 598660 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dropFromEnd n xs = zipWith const xs (drop n xs) < 1387244830 112100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where sneaky2 < 1387244830 297689 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lazyReverse xs = go xs (reverse xs) where go (_:xs) ~(y:ys) = y : go xs ys; go [] ~[] = [] < 1387244833 447128 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1387244874 32460 :realz!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1387244878 602432 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sneaky? < 1387244905 844039 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that dropFromEnd supposed to be broken or just clever? < 1387244920 465612 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zip [1] [1,2] < 1387244921 837119 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(1,1)] < 1387244980 747932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever hth < 1387245007 459663 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let xs = [1,2,3,4,5] in zipWith const xs (drop 2 xs) < 1387245008 849772 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3] < 1387245017 983942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, it's O(n) space where n is that variable < 1387245024 959036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1387245028 660578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular it works on infinite lists < 1387245040 687444 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let xs = [71..] in zipWith const xs (drop 2 xs) < 1387245041 893097 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,... < 1387245113 843621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now someone can explain to me what the point of that lazyReverse is. < 1387245116 353587 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387245123 980685 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let lazyReverse xs = go xs (reverse xs) where go (_:xs) ~(y:ys) = y : go xs ys; go [] ~[] = [] in lazyReverse [17,2,39] < 1387245124 166611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works on infinite lists. < 1387245125 495804 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [39,2,17] < 1387245129 557761 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let lazyReverse xs = go xs (reverse xs) where go (_:xs) ~(y:ys) = y : go xs ys; go [] ~[] = [] in lazyReverse [17..] < 1387245134 496203 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1387245148 429885 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great. < 1387245150 981988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gives you a cons cell in the result as soon as it sees a cons cell in the input. < 1387245161 504130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm well ok, as long as you don't look at the elements < 1387245165 926430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1387245191 212976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let lazyReverse xs = go xs (reverse xs) where go (_:xs) ~(y:ys) = y : go xs ys; go [] ~[] = [] in length . take 5 $ lazyReverse [17..] < 1387245192 292534 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1387245566 748816 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387245589 950807 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387245698 991814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1387245700 460492 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec bash -c "$1" < 1387245722 782381 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-4.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387245744 582920 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, psoas, is that just coincidence < 1387245767 943871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :saføui < 1387245772 751606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a coincidence < 1387245785 32977 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dag < 1387245799 19072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :natt < 1387245861 776630 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387245997 492279 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1387246483 999652 :realz!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387246527 48398 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387246547 22279 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387247515 976497 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387247799 862437 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387247853 181563 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finished watching the Freeman’s Mind episodes released so far. ’Twas funneh. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6PNZBb6b9LvDWpI-5CPYUxG1Rnm-vr9V < 1387247906 486488 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387249082 997775 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if real life or The Onion http://www.cbc.ca/thisisthat/blog/2013/12/11/man-emerges-from-bunker-14-years-after-y2k-scare/index.html < 1387249093 583445 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :satire < 1387249112 695922 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was easy. < 1387249113 433428 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just fantasy < 1387249127 854267 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ` ` ` echo asdf < 1387249129 209446 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1387249134 969073 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1387249145 745394 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so (reset (cons 1 (shift w (cons 5 (w '()))))) => (5 1) < 1387249165 549669 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe, ok. < 1387249169 213574 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should (reset (cons 1 (reset (shift k (k (shift w (cons 5 (w '())))))))) return (5 1) or (1 5) < 1387249180 2570 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid < 1387249184 609315 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not which does it, but which would you expect) < 1387249243 383631 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some way to do this in cps instead @_@ < 1387249257 527852 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not without making it worse < 1387249295 377857 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's gibberish so it can't get worse < 1387249300 807333 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna guess (1 5) though < 1387249318 918213 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any reason? < 1387249321 268079 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387249338 667978 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i'm imagining that the outer "reset" is totally ignored < 1387249369 926648 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is indeed how shift and reset work < 1387249376 325393 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1387249629 266991 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the (reset (cons 1 ...)) one like (let ((w (lambda (x) (cons 1 x)))) (cons 5 (w '())) < 1387249739 544956 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much < 1387249826 926778 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the various delimiting operator differ in how they treat nesting < 1387249837 38645 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the latter one is like (cons 1 (let ((k (lambda (x) x))) (let ((w (lambda (x) (k x)))) (cons 5 (w '())))))? < 1387249900 884392 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387249923 855819 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1387250066 756441 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387250177 965157 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387250216 380594 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if nested shifts referred to nesting resets it would be equivalent to (let ((w (lambda (a) (cons 1 (let ((k (lambda (b) b))) (k a)))))) (cons 5 (w '()))) < 1387250240 764865 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Facebook is seeking an experienced Software Engineer to help us port the world’s best PHP run-time on servers based on ARM processor" < 1387250526 53256 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure which regime is more pleasant to use < 1387250970 166243 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum computation is whack < 1387250980 161926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum PHP < 1387250984 63261 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1387251141 978357 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and reset and shift are functions right < 1387251244 635333 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if they are called functions < 1387251295 891628 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, so you can do stuff like (map reset (list (lambda (f) (f (shift ...))) (lambda () (f (+ 1 (shift ...)))))))))))))))) and /we < 1387251334 677869 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387251342 95457 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1387251356 966648 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a pain in the ass. < 1387251363 473549 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387251390 118781 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :implementing this sounds annoying. < 1387251404 914670 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I faked it with macros < 1387251418 139085 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :expanding to call/cc? < 1387251437 627090 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, just code transformation < 1387251460 879328 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't allow me to hide the resets in a function though < 1387251474 423769 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you deal with (reset (list #1=(shift k ...) #1#)) < 1387251491 525795 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets find out < 1387251617 231237 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT : < 1387251680 219334 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just fine < 1387251699 491281 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol infinitely large programs < 1387251704 369678 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(reset (list #1=(shift k (list 1 (k 3))) #1#)) -> (1 (1 (3 3))) < 1387251706 433910 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387251753 883943 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't hte list be symmetrical? < 1387251795 561169 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, juxtaposition turns into nesting, within a reset < 1387251878 830021 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's what you get from (reset (list (shift a (list 1 (a 3))) (shift b (list 1 (b 3)))))? < 1387251895 833950 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387251919 183616 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the reader makes removes the cycle when it reads it < 1387251932 948326 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/makes/ < 1387252037 312868 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i don't get this at all. it depends on evaluation order now? < 1387252080 993719 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wikipedia page actually explains this one well < 1387252091 261687 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delimited_continuation < 1387252131 333537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :regular continuations expose evaluation order too < 1387252152 175609 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: where? < 1387252154 92512 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: they do? < 1387252158 637523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(let/cc k (+ (k 0) (k 1))) < 1387252167 722323 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well right. < 1387252176 354174 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought delimited continuations didn't, though. < 1387252220 902499 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :props on choosing let/cc < 1387252237 836694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :delimited continuations are even _less_ pure < 1387252258 182757 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike start reading at "(reset < 1387252258 516570 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (begin < 1387252258 705466 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (shift k (cons 1 (k (void)))) ;; (1) < 1387252258 705625 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric : null)) < 1387252262 609223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Bike < 1387252276 961149 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: begin has a particular evaluation order, thugh < 1387252278 810698 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though* < 1387252286 200678 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but they're more composable! < 1387252294 613863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how so? < 1387252308 719332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you can simulate state with them < 1387252367 542727 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like using them for yield? < 1387252391 139671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually know how it works, i just read you can < 1387252406 2356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you can do that with normal continuations too < 1387252423 145769 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck this im goin back to pron < 1387252430 280406 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goin back to prawns < 1387252432 979221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can implement coroutines right < 1387252445 446526 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387252447 611816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can implement a ref cell with a thread and that works even in cooperative threading < 1387252451 100874 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need mutable variables to simulated delimited continuations with only undelimited ones < 1387252482 710825 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: list doesn't have an evaluation order? < 1387252529 442118 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in scheme? < 1387252552 253102 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in cl < 1387252563 886119 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what ever nerd < 1387252577 426496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :list is a function and so has unspec. eval order in scheme < 1387252618 324165 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would be the point of faking delimited continuations in scheme. Someone else has already implemented them < 1387252653 540226 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's a scheme tradition to implement everything a hundred times < 1387252693 901129 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it is, they sound like forth-ers in that way. < 1387252766 580856 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice thing about faking with macros is I can see the intermediate steps < 1387252962 546893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh i forgot to turn off the quick heating mode again < 1387252981 982565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION cannot even get heating frozen pizza right :P
< 1387253034 848969 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can cook
< 1387253040 155419 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is also eating PB&J.
< 1387253288 250388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately it only makes it a bit too charred < 1387253291 174609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still < 1387253330 294383 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooooooooooooooo < 1387253354 764296 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, you really like pizza < 1387253357 910374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you really hate charred pizza? < 1387253414 239735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only on the edge) < 1387253427 950695 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i really hate that i can't solve this stupid problem < 1387253448 267211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it still the git problem < 1387253510 789978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: actually i only eat it once a month or so < 1387253559 6240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just seem to mention it here, every time. < 1387253807 275403 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387253850 782266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!logs < 1387253948 705892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Gregor why do you let poor glogbackup outright lie (twice!) in its !logs message < 1387253948 894659 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387253963 225073 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!logs < 1387254214 881667 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387254311 977856 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387254471 566872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman Navier-Stokes sounds sciency <-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navier%E2%80%93Stokes_existence_and_smoothness < 1387254471 755930 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387254632 109503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : huh, i didn't know hamilton tried to make 3ions for path finding <-- do you have some link about this? < 1387254700 129848 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm looking for a program that can be proved nonterminating in higher-order logics, but not in ZF/FOL < 1387254729 946600 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :finding one that is terminating and can't be proved so is easy, but the nonterminating one is killing me < 1387254751 758894 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i say easy because there's a wikipedia article telling how to do it) < 1387254759 446971 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-160.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387254816 569783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :biiiiiiiiiike < 1387254850 365588 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-164-141.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387254873 859804 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387254951 218566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :biiiiiiiiiike < 1387254960 176168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a bouncer or a reliable server < 1387254967 442581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : huh, i didn't know hamilton tried to make 3ions for path finding <-- do you have some link about this? < 1387255010 558082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: searching for an inconsistency in ZF/FOL should do the trick. < 1387255022 286168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by gödel's second incompleteness theorem) < 1387255038 628765 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe main has the wrong type < 1387255047 764622 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it should be main :: CompileTimeIO (IO ()) < 1387255065 570393 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CompileTimeIO being IO enriched with metaprogramming stuff, perhaps < 1387255070 849850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: assuming your higher-order logic proves ZF/FOL consistent, that is. < 1387255100 430990 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so does that mean searching for a proof that ZF is consistent? < 1387255141 623272 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: by checking all proofs to see if they prove it < 1387255174 262828 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icosian_calculus < 1387255199 901910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, thx < 1387255202 798307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no. searching for a proof it _isn't_. < 1387255242 142254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: or to be precise, enumerating all theorems of ZF/FOL and halting once you find a contradiction. < 1387255267 540171 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i think i might have gotten the order backwards. < 1387255296 419968 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah. because there are no contradictions, but ZF doesn't know that. got it. < 1387255302 262038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1387255344 386951 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387255350 908132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_group#Hyperbolic_plane pretty < 1387255378 449264 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387255503 79020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: check out this page then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_tilings_in_hyperbolic_plane < 1387255533 2465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(discussed here previously iirc) < 1387255620 437533 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387255984 952063 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387256155 139808 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: okay check my latest update on Onoz and make sure i did it right plox kthx < 1387256275 662824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1387256305 235578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am coincidenaltiay on the page < 1387256391 472160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i don't you can check whether something is a valid godel number of a theorem. < 1387256414 34308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you need to do is check whether something is a valid godel number of a _proof_. < 1387256435 290687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and whether that proof then ends in a contradiction. < 1387256458 490560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*i don't think < 1387256502 647008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that's a bit simpler than what i said above < 1387256546 873268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more pretty! < 1387256586 578993 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay so i could just let S be the program that checks the nth number and whether the result of that proof is that true=false? < 1387256599 406538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that would be enough < 1387256615 506282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um except hm < 1387256677 250646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the outer loop gives S every number n in order as long as a contradiction isn't found, right? < 1387256721 239147 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387256745 717549 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the outer loop also prints 1 < 1387256893 483589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i think the idea is sound as written now. < 1387257372 946999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> compare <$> [(0/0),0] <*> [(0/0),0] < 1387257374 263922 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [GT,GT,GT,EQ] < 1387257424 9904 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1387257658 554863 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like we shouldn't have to tag Uncomputable languages as Unimplemented. Uncomputable should be a subcategory of Unimplemented or something. < 1387257669 371845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1387257672 30359 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387257682 535950 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a challenge < 1387257703 761450 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387257730 647847 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: okay. i'll give you a million dollars for a working implementation of any uncomputable language. :D < 1387257962 765719 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387258485 22465 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387258512 956371 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387258513 442067 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387258519 380014 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387259376 423634 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which user was it that put a table of bf interpreter speeds on various problems on their user page? < 1387259420 953809 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-164-141.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387259950 574635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Rdebath#Performance_Matrix < 1387259958 530884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ^ < 1387260224 634655 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i was thinking of david_werecat's bfbench < 1387260236 832888 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, what is that? < 1387260252 74919 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this one looks more complete < 1387260340 778344 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is bcci in the top row? < 1387260386 850692 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bcci seems to perform extraordinally in some tests and horribly in others < 1387260491 623038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:Brainfuck#Interpreter.2Fcompiler_speed_test < 1387260517 482855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bcci: written to enforce the very strict portability rules of the BCC (a contest), and compute scores. " < 1387260549 997533 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.hevanet.com/cristofd/brainfuck/bcci.c got it. < 1387260606 598235 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh, is sprunge still down < 1387260617 140396 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always wanted to rewrite esotope-bfc for new decades ;) < 1387260643 491529 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. shit. < 1387260644 768884 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and f*ck the python, python really is not a language for writing PL implementations) < 1387260760 970738 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: http://pastebin.com/PEpjaJRv that was fun. < 1387260940 293306 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. pastie was slightly less annoying ime < 1387261135 960608 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: please demonstrate that this implementation works by using it to decide some uncomputable problem < 1387261158 614334 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :psh, what do you take me for? an engineer? i ain't need no tests. < 1387261210 426417 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you really wanted you could try a few programs. anything in brainfuck, for example. < 1387261237 372846 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i've got one to test < 1387261264 774415 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :please point me to a CLooP interpreter so that i may test it < 1387261307 685374 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i gotta do everything < 1387261334 163740 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also you should post it on the wiki if you haven't already. nice program.) < 1387261359 705865 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i oughta get around to making an account some time < 1387261403 275541 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1387261407 455872 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1387261420 834552 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just surprised me there < 1387261431 93773 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i figured you had an account < 1387261439 694200 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. i'm a parasite on this channel. < 1387261482 89157 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask ais523 just tested out your account creation question thing. it asked me when Somnypna was created and i said Homfrog and got rejected. < 1387261482 314437 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387261548 494302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1387261687 989109 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh, how do you do code blocks < 1387261778 856771 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387261806 47527 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. < 1387261844 226119 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Code::Blocks. < 1387261965 723751 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. why is it that pforeach(infinity) is uncomputable? it seems like it should be possible to have an unbounded number of threads executing concurrently. indeed, executing the first thread on odd cycles, the second on 2 mod 4 cycles, the third on 4 mod 8 cycles, etc. should ensure that every natural numbered thread gets executed an unbounded number of times... < 1387261989 517151 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do i misunderstand something < 1387261991 177796 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it mentions it takes finite time. < 1387262019 799949 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language seems maybe 80% baked at best. i just picked the first one in the uncomputable category that looked good. < 1387262023 20875 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387262058 343684 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but if you picked one that was mislabelled... < 1387262067 463846 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then your implementation is broken < 1387262085 852841 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i guess the finite time thing < 1387262121 502495 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shall define DLooP, "like CLooP but works" < 1387262138 825909 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387262171 512873 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a mistake anyway. < 1387262204 872749 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i think the spec is borked. it doesn't say in the description of pforeach it finishes in finite time no matter what. it just says later it inherently does infinite work in finite time < 1387262214 316487 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1387262217 184900 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going off that. < 1387262226 256547 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seemed to be the intent since they put it under uncomputable. < 1387262232 514921 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe we should just edit the page < 1387262266 405718 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :to indicate that pforeach is guaranteed to take no longer than a constant times any one thread it is executing < 1387262290 520263 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it will be able to do nondeterminstic computation in hyper mode < 1387262327 125630 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about "if the block would halt for any value of the loop variable, the pforeach as a whole will halt." < 1387262334 823311 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for all values*, rather < 1387262358 561005 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the range? probably specify that it just has to be values in the range < 1387262386 722827 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's equivalent to my version, so whatever you like < 1387262399 341272 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ain't editing it, i already dida ll this work < 1387262413 24407 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm depressed since this means i have less excuse to sort out my own ideas enough to put them on the wiki < 1387262501 935579 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i will have to make it graphical and that means mspaint < 1387262533 302757 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean less excuse not to? < 1387262538 15096 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more excuse to? < 1387262564 917992 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :less excuse not to, yeah < 1387262640 603154 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you shouldn't be depressed < 1387262644 270287 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be excited < 1387262663 266814 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a bike. i'm incapable of feeling any emotion, let alone excitement. < 1387262685 543733 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are capable of feeling motion < 1387262691 772278 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fast motion! < 1387262698 766126 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :excitement is not a motion < 1387262699 194725 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you the town bike? < 1387262725 792853 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the demographics are very skewed towards sapient colors and dryer sheets in this town < 1387262747 806365 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you give everyone a ride for free? < 1387262758 438504 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they're polite about it and i'm not busy < 1387262775 92529 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. such kind. < 1387262785 932496 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn straight < 1387262796 584701 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :still < 1387262804 198158 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need mspaint < 1387262810 388678 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you need graphics < 1387262844 778235 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the language i'm thinking of would probably be easiest to hammer out as schematics rather than something text-based. < 1387262856 359533 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-164-141.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387262868 788327 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use unicode boxes. i hear that's the cool thing now. < 1387262903 63341 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387263051 830925 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking of making a program which is like mspaint but with unicode < 1387263067 680259 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun, right < 1387263080 515503 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wlel i don't have mspaint anyway. this is linux. < 1387264434 903288 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh look someone has made something similar already < 1387264437 875686 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jave.de/ < 1387264450 633938 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can just steal their code and port it < 1387265388 305628 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1387265611 496501 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387265781 213375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, JavE. Truu ANSI artists do it in ACiDDraw. < 1387265793 21595 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe that's "trü". < 1387266063 539039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot sp. < 1387266063 764138 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what have you. you have to < 1387266186 3734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: agaricales sensu lato < 1387266186 309592 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does it true? how could a glass be yelling??? fnord < 1387266214 474343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shouldn't feed fungot those agaricales hth < 1387266214 716976 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: be without brainfuck code running functionality? < 1387266249 652618 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, should i take Category:Unimplemented off of Brainhype < 1387266351 524734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why not feed fungus to the fungot < 1387266351 812029 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: still a chance work visa won't go through but it's looking like a lot of languages < 1387266427 743239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: because e's high enough already < 1387266449 89366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just assume the mushrooms i have are hallucinogenic < 1387266454 480791 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot agaric < 1387266454 667862 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there must be another one? lol < 1387266455 634793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like i have a reputation or something < 1387266468 310652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1387266504 431070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we planted a bed of wine caps (Stropharia rugosoannulata) in the backyard today < 1387266513 826527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :might bear fruits in 4 or 5 months < 1387267208 765033 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387267233 197027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure wine bottles don't work that way < 1387267294 626409 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.7.205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387267501 213630 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387267687 512391 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387268166 341705 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387268393 67495 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pro tip: don’t force a rubber bottle cap in if it’s difficult to get out. < 1387268423 703121 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387268848 702224 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387268874 611348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOT IT < 1387269483 140769 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387270571 318008 :atriq!~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io JOIN :#esoteric < 1387270591 301920 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387270593 280142 :atriq!~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io NICK :Taneb < 1387271144 63936 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387272172 404210 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387272268 59472 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387273395 110092 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387274217 139641 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:LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387285442 758362 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387285476 757548 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387285504 943864 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good redactyled morning! < 1387286013 149874 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387286983 719376 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1387287220 477324 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1387287228 88376 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is metasepia up to today < 1387287268 385896 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1387287276 274755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia is the same as ever. < 1387287386 373216 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you up to today < 1387287402 487417 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pythoning? < 1387287631 7596 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pythoning, xmling, javascripting, gitting, teaeing... < 1387287658 945481 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, not freezing my fungots off. it's cold outside. < 1387287659 134484 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: although i think exists? and suppose it doesnt use and as operators right? < 1387287659 134645 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1387287660 228742 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 171335Z 02007KT 4SM HZ FEW004 FEW090 SCT240 M20/M23 A3022 RMK SF1AC1CI2 SF TR SLP238 < 1387287690 214720 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i saw the weather reports for your southerly neighbor's frozen northern bits < 1387287693 441060 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks awful < 1387287764 87943 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KBGR < 1387287768 782150 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KBGR 171253Z 00000KT 10SM CLR M24/M27 A3030 RMK AO2 SLP267 T12441272 < 1387287780 157899 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeek. it's even frozenier in Maine. < 1387287792 972894 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387287895 419790 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :vurrah cold < 1387287917 254420 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KMHT < 1387287920 256530 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is teae < 1387287927 626302 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KMHT 171253Z 03005KT 10SM FEW200 FEW250 M18/M22 A3024 RMK AO2 SLP264 T11781217 < 1387287959 645198 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only tea. I couldn't resist the Appeal of stringing vowels together. < 1387287979 556070 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :teaeaeaeaeaeaing < 1387288023 190323 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :teæ+ing. < 1387288028 476828 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KBVT < 1387288029 353510 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1387288032 171751 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh? < 1387288037 796440 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KBTV < 1387288038 408075 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KBTV 171254Z 09004KT 10SM FEW120 M22/M24 A3022 RMK AO2 SLP242 T12171244 < 1387288057 285196 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :better < 1387288222 684529 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1387288226 18799 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 171320Z 24007KT 9999 FEW014 BKN150 03/01 Q1009 NOSIG < 1387288226 645708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas here... < 1387288256 463277 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No snow for this christmas season. < 1387288291 199936 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1387288329 242554 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a 30 cm snowstorm last Sunday. the City expects it to be shovelled away by next Monday. < 1387288518 142423 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On average one out of three christmases are snowless in Helsinki. < 1387288524 161761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course this is the south end of Finland. < 1387288535 625890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFRO < 1387288549 53453 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387288562 781476 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia: Well be like that then, see if I care! < 1387288567 559778 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFRO 171350Z AUTO 23011KT CAVOK M04/M04 Q0996 < 1387288582 693322 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you. < 1387288600 285277 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm no better at reading those things < 1387288610 710161 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the KT part is temp < 1387288626 48997 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The M04/M04 part is. < 1387288637 99987 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :min and max? < 1387288642 219266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Temperature and dew point; with M for a minus sign. < 1387288658 70625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :23011KT means a wind of 11 knots from direction 230. < 1387288671 951162 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387288674 82407 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387288760 850855 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387288831 911420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the Q/A part is barometric pressure, with Q denoting some sensible metric unit (millibar?) and A something inch-based. < 1387288833 540882 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018] < 1387288856 116387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :inHg, maybe. < 1387288972 515590 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Annnn is inHg, with pressure calibrated for airfield altitude. < 1387288973 391661 :muskrat_!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-110.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387288990 747556 :muskrat_!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-110.psoas.suomi.net NICK :muskrat < 1387288991 788277 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Qnnnn is pressure in hPa, with pressure calibrated for mean sea level. < 1387289015 454237 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SLPnnn is also in hPa, but with the first digit chopped of, and a precision of daPa. < 1387289073 543045 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-110.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1387289504 266389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snow depth at EFHK at christmas eve: 2009 30 cm, 2010 40 cm, 2011 0 cm, 2012 55 cm, 2013 most likely 0. < 1387289522 703947 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387289620 8749 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387289775 439898 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387289790 994105 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387289815 594774 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to fall asleep in my chair < 1387290134 726831 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gently mapoles quintopia to keep him awake.
< 1387291275 756575 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1387291737 864695 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387292140 338646 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387292246 44093 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387292934 452608 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-110.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387293258 151626 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387293456 643507 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-110.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387294008 444700 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387294136 56789 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387294291 392191 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm gonna get a passport at least < 1387294298 247385 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387294382 347034 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh! will you visit Canada? < 1387294484 349333 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387294521 926551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I've only done minimal testing on this, so don't use it to fly airplanes (in fact, please don't use /any/ Sudoku player to fly airplanes) < 1387294548 662629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Bike were you expecting that to be the correct answer? < 1387294548 868453 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387294871 695494 :taylanub!tub@p4FD92885.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387295327 543440 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome taylanub < 1387295332 700773 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09taylanub: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06irc.dal.net.) < 1387295389 621638 :taylanub!tub@p4FD92885.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dark blue text on black background isn't very nice. < 1387295415 329106 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome taylanub < 1387295417 437702 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :taylanub: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1387296079 808922 :taylanub!tub@p4FD92885.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERCAL is really great < 1387296125 15647 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a ping set on INTERCAL < 1387296129 996207 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, it comes up in here more than in other channels < 1387296136 234936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when it comes up elsewhere, I want to be notified < 1387296148 157068 :taylanub!tub@p4FD92885.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it seems like 90% of esolangs are brainfuck clones. And maybe unlambda. < 1387296160 600869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's sadly a mostly accurate description < 1387296160 806957 :taylanub!tub@p4FD92885.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any actually interesting ones ?.. < 1387296164 521696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, they're just hard to find < 1387296167 670865 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my best is http://esolangs.org/wiki/Underload < 1387296172 221573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not a brainfuck clone at all < 1387296182 783042 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are other interesting languages by other people < 1387296208 766026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can even find interesting brainfuck derivatives if you look hard enough, such as http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust or http://esolangs.org/wiki/Paintfuck < 1387296215 365998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're much rarer than the uninteresting ones < 1387296231 999956 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that new language by Keymaker? I really like that one < 1387296249 884012 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387296268 626837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, Etre < 1387296467 928821 :taylanub!tub@p4FD92885.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh shit .. Underload basically coalesces data and program ? < 1387296478 392371 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taylanub: yes < 1387296488 889384 :taylanub!tub@p4FD92885.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat < 1387296505 805813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most practical ways of storing data are as program fragments < 1387296812 997933 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387297154 604762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I like the ambiguity in the name "LinearInterpol" < 1387297165 919743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a truncated form of "linear interpolation"? < 1387297182 741769 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it a form of international police who have can only use each datum of information they're given exactly once? < 1387297185 322279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*who can < 1387297222 129483 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1387297234 401048 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's the beauty of it! < 1387297246 634977 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I said I liked it < 1387297270 317923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been assuming the latter, FWIW. < 1387297353 987472 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387297363 122605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Perhaps it's some kind of an ad-hoc linguistic interpretation experiment.) < 1387297382 176155 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but you work in linguistics, so you would assume that < 1387297395 597675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas I went to a bounded linear logic conference recently < 1387297404 523778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives LinearInterpol a bounded exponential comonad
< 1387297443 36756 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also an anagram of "I, Patroller Nine".. perhaps your police idea has some weight < 1387297526 832059 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387297722 539708 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :less formally, linear interpol may have a one-track mind. < 1387297765 637049 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lack depth. < 1387297829 72566 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387297843 699451 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387297897 700565 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1387298040 718687 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387298061 26906 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387298557 205348 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'll only come to canada if it's not the french part :D < 1387298602 21658 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387298642 739934 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell CADD http://mroman.ch/VA/ <- the documentation of our emulator thingy < 1387298642 961336 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387298648 227234 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he was called CADD < 1387298674 974085 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :emulator thingy eh < 1387298825 908949 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :si < 1387298833 778439 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is called emulathor < 1387298868 684526 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome nanii < 1387298871 89214 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06nanii: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04irc.dal.net.) < 1387298877 263231 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.es < 1387298879 117330 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1387298889 911395 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*------------* < 1387298898 874090 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lambdabot tell lambdabot tell doesthiswork hi < 1387298899 80451 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice try ;) < 1387298908 776915 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: la partie française est la plus mieux meilleure partie du Canada :P < 1387298930 790096 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola soy de venezuela *--* < 1387298969 794565 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if you say so < 1387298976 991247 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hablamos espanol < 1387298979 470199 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ayay < 1387298993 405601 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That leaves the question < 1387298999 332135 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :quien hable espanol < 1387299038 571454 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a couple of question marks to ask that < 1387299053 373516 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nanii: hablo un poquito de español. ¿habla usted francés? < 1387299063 183056 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo no hablo ingles < 1387299113 426767 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily no frances no pero creo que puedo hacer algo < 1387299165 132309 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nanii: ¿ha visitado el wiki? < 1387299165 442100 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1387299176 940195 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need even some *** up inversed question marks < 1387299178 80714 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noo :( < 1387299181 196629 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just to screw with your mind. < 1387299195 431872 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I can see how they are useful < 1387299207 963959 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You immediately know that there's a question. < 1387299236 750022 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: not only that, but you can wrap the part of the sentence that is actually a question. same thing with ¡!. < 1387299246 613073 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1387299256 748789 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then explain why is there no inversed dot? < 1387299263 554825 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1387299278 191329 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION twitches... “urge to mapole mroman rising”
< 1387299296 397331 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincidally I had an oral spanish exam today < 1387299302 149475 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I barely passed < 1387299304 113691 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I passed < 1387299316 544450 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that incidally < 1387299337 420238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if you reverse the direction of the morphism between you and the exam. < 1387299348 426801 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincidentally < 1387299423 164297 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Which wouldn't matter if they're homomorphisms < 1387299447 560579 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :˙ < 1387299451 878633 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387299477 573808 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In English every odd number contains an `e'. < 1387299479 424206 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute < 1387299507 955348 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in English, every x, y s.t. |x - y| = 1, share a letter. < 1387299550 657803 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1387299555 156863 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*isomorphisms < 1387299561 980840 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: :D < 1387299569 666049 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well most numbers contain an e already < 1387299575 106203 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's like < 1387299579 724089 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :six. < 1387299581 688187 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :epaa < 1387299582 664905 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oeis.org/A006933 < 1387299586 389956 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :four, six < 1387299590 670175 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's about it < 1387299592 681937 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That do not < 1387299593 259210 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: ¿qué es un "epaa"? < 1387299608 232937 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thanks oeis. jesus.) < 1387299617 667012 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: two. a million. < 1387299626 178329 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean < 1387299630 289322 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEELEEON < 1387299634 89609 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one million < 1387299636 957715 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pues como un hola :D < 1387299662 801358 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not *too* surprising that those two things are true < 1387299681 154829 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you only have to do three special cases to check them < 1387299744 736240 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kakka rules http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caganer < 1387299745 432292 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :isomorphisms remind me that I should continue with this category theorey book < 1387299757 647954 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord 'F' < 1387299758 790054 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 70 < 1387299773 307086 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: two million then, still no 'e'. < 1387299781 106025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1387299786 938781 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/beweise/cat.pdf <- isomorhpisms is where I got stuck apparentely < 1387299929 992491 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.1 < 1387299930 236342 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.10 < 1387299961 218268 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the number IN the book < 1387299989 388622 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 PART :#esoteric < 1387300038 80768 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387300045 984584 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 PART :#esoteric < 1387300105 130675 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387300113 677575 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 PART :#esoteric < 1387300115 3259 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387300126 922913 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 PART :#esoteric < 1387300128 438301 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387300131 408534 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 PART :#esoteric < 1387300297 204478 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387300310 443672 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387300381 418791 :Taneb!~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that thing which means that defining notNull = not . null isn't worth it? < 1387300389 524689 :Taneb!~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like the Fairfax constant? < 1387300512 17789 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :common sense? < 1387300529 910461 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second word was "threshold" but I can't recall the name. < 1387300586 823139 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-250.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387300601 574025 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 PART :#esoteric < 1387300671 776158 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387300673 968112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t null < 1387300674 813273 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a] -> Bool < 1387300691 819406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's checking to see if the list is empty? < 1387300701 126597 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1387300705 205685 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Threshold of Bel Air < 1387300707 898255 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://31.media.tumblr.com/3f8a2af848fd54d90f58d4367eee0b7f/tumblr_mxrzs6RsbT1sgh0voo1_500.png it was absolutely useless. thanks < 1387300722 987315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, if you had a strict language with side effects, it'd be possible to define that over arbitrary functors < 1387300740 272433 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, because i wasn't sure about capital letters and the space in the real name < 1387300741 703269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by using fmap with a function with a side effect, then checking to see if that function had run at all < 1387300747 328595 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :star-tut. hmm. < 1387300784 317477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it generalizes to functors in general if the language is pure or lazy, though < 1387300798 572328 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :134%. good jub. < 1387300856 426090 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: right. Foldable is the right abstraction here, I think. null = fold (\_ _ -> False) True < 1387300859 958768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if it's lazy, there's nothing implying that it's even possible to force the functors in order to make the functions run; if it's pure, then you need to know about the structure of the functor to have any way to observe the behaviour of your function) < 1387300950 541674 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where fold is one of foldr or foldl, not the monoid foundational one from the type class) < 1387300991 213991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have to be r/l? < 1387300994 867672 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a symmetric fold? < 1387300997 543570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or binary tree fold? < 1387301015 859365 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fold :: Data.Monoid.Monoid m => t m -> m allows all of those < 1387301048 202619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : hola soy de venezuela *--* <-- why is it always venezuela < 1387301108 448133 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's pretty big. < 1387301141 34189 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fold < 1387301142 47521 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Foldable t, Monoid m) => t m -> m < 1387301158 673002 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fold [3,7,19] < 1387301159 906745 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Data.Monoid.Monoid a0) < 1387301160 113270 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `e_13719' < 1387301160 113445 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable `a0' is ambiguous < 1387301160 113541 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Possible fix: add a type signature that fixes these type variable(s) < 1387301160 113635 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note: there are several potential instances: < 1387301166 690302 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type (\(Endo g) -> g b) . fold . (map (Endo . f)) < 1387301167 558364 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Show a => [a] -> Expr < 1387301183 826051 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type \f b -> (\(Endo g) -> g b) . fold . (map (Endo . f)) < 1387301184 668344 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> c -> c) -> c -> [a] -> c < 1387301193 646116 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be foldr. < 1387301212 934607 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fold "Somebody once told me the world is gonna roll me" < 1387301213 976220 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Data.Monoid.Monoid GHC.Types.Char) < 1387301214 182814 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `Data.Foldable.fold' < 1387301214 182972 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Possible fix: < 1387301214 183067 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : add an instance declaration for (Data.Monoid.Monoid GHC.Types.Char) < 1387301254 810137 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and foldl is essentially the same with a 'Dual' thrown into the mix) < 1387301284 580835 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fold $ map Sum [1..10] < 1387301285 744757 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sum {getSum = 55} < 1387301298 792632 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fold $ map Product [1..10] < 1387301299 944477 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Product {getProduct = 3628800} < 1387301345 934798 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> getDual . fold . map Dual $ [[1,2],[3,4],[5,6,7,8]] < 1387301347 68264 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [5,6,7,8,3,4,1,2] < 1387301384 524246 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :('fold' on lists of lists is just 'concat') < 1387301449 633171 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ($ 0) . appEndo . fold . map (Endo . (+)) $ [1..10]] < 1387301450 758484 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:52: parse error on input `]' < 1387301451 148735 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ($ 0) . appEndo . fold . map (Endo . (+)) $ [1..10] < 1387301452 338868 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 55 < 1387301487 275317 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ($ 0) . appEndo . fold . map (Endo . (-)) $ [1..10] < 1387301488 3414 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -5 < 1387301499 11500 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ($ 0) . appEndo . getDual . fold . map (Dual . Endo . (-)) $ [1..10] < 1387301500 210439 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1387301503 147092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: psst there's foldMap < 1387301612 551929 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why. It saves what, 3 characters? < 1387301632 185616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i think it's a method < 1387301642 523824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it might also save efficiency < 1387301671 197936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally you would want null defined so that it short circuits no matter what way the data structure is folded. < 1387301694 2794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think this can be done with a valid Monoid instance, although you can easily use a broken one < 1387301702 437048 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> expr . ($ 0) . appEndo . getDual . fold . map (Dual . Endo . (+)) $ [1..6] < 1387301703 926109 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6 + (5 + (4 + (3 + (2 + (1 + 0))))) < 1387301717 981252 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> expr . ($ 0) . appEndo . getDual . fold . map (Dual . Endo . flip (+)) $ [1..6] < 1387301719 140240 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 + 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 < 1387301731 979199 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1387301734 242577 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> expr . ($ 0) . appEndo . fold . map (Endo (+)) $ [1..6] < 1387301735 436276 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `a0 < 1387301735 641130 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> Data.Monoid.Endo Debug.SimpleReflect.Expr.E... < 1387301735 641294 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `Data.Monoid.Endo a1' < 1387301741 431105 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> expr . ($ 0) . appEndo . fold . map (Endo . (+)) $ [1..6] < 1387301742 580057 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 + (2 + (3 + (4 + (5 + (6 + 0))))) < 1387301745 926787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance Monoid Bool where mempty = True; mappend = const (const False) < 1387301765 204760 :Bike!~Glossina@216.161.93.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387301780 721818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :null = foldMap (const False) < 1387301793 59281 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. so those are foldl and foldr (once you abstract from '0' and '(+)') < 1387301835 694938 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. < 1387301865 538754 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :null = getAny . foldMap (const (Any False)) < 1387301882 333045 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1387301902 170587 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha. I need getAll / All. That was stupid. < 1387301968 271289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: um Any won't work, the point is mappend should be entirely ignoring its arguments < 1387301991 468167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus allowing perfect shortcutting regardless of order < 1387301998 142534 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (getAll . foldMap (\_ -> All False)) [[],[1]] < 1387301999 111795 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [True,False] < 1387302012 417928 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Bool has no Monoid instance. < 1387302024 679957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you didn't read what i wrote above < 1387302043 170117 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: true. < 1387302084 635619 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case, there is a good reason for having the newtype All instead. And the compiler should be smart enough to do the right thing *if* it unfolds the recursive 'foldMap' at all. < 1387302086 834213 :Bike!~Glossina@216.161.93.209 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387302091 278114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, you _cannot_ do this with a valid Monoid instance, because it's inconsistent with the Monoid laws to have mappend = const (const x) for x not mempty < 1387302093 388856 :Taneb!~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type isJust . getFirst . foldMap (First . Just) < 1387302094 212317 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foldable t => t a -> Bool < 1387302118 839445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: um it should work for _infinite_ structures. < 1387302132 288216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :including Foldable infinite trees. < 1387302133 121687 :Taneb!~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :> isJust . getFirst . foldMap (First . Just) $ [1..] < 1387302134 208629 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1387302139 584650 :Taneb!~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :> isJust . getFirst . foldMap (First . Just) $ [ < 1387302140 698763 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:47: < 1387302140 905031 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) < 1387302141 361701 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387302141 803757 :Taneb!~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :> isJust . getFirst . foldMap (First . Just) $ [] < 1387302142 762133 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1387302149 879603 :Taneb!~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type Node < 1387302150 726648 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> Forest a -> Tree a < 1387302153 837757 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (getAll . foldMap (\_ -> All False)) [[],[1..]] -- hmm. but I see your point. < 1387302154 930427 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [True,False] < 1387302229 77719 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but that means it's not a valid 'null' either. You could have something like data Tree a = Node (Tree a) (Tree a) | Hole | Leaf a, and then null (Tree Hole Hole) should presumably be False. < 1387302268 517292 :Taneb!~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :> isJust . getFirst . foldMap (First . Just) $ unfoldTree (\() -> ((),repeat ()) () < 1387302269 100277 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I imagine that fold (Node l r) = fold l `mappend` fold r) < 1387302269 638393 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:82: < 1387302269 843726 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) < 1387302274 873600 :Taneb!~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :> isJust . getFirst . foldMap (First . Just) $ unfoldTree (\() -> ((),repeat ())) () < 1387302276 38388 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1387302295 752334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, null (Tree hole hole) would be False with my definition. < 1387302340 759633 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sorry, but I meant to write that null (Tree Hole Hole) should be True. < 1387302342 494244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that shows how Foldables don't make sense without a true Monoid, though. < 1387302356 88499 :Taneb!~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on, what are we trying to do here? < 1387302358 261546 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't good with negations.
< 1387302384 998383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: writing a Foldable null that short circuits for _both_ infinite leftwards and rightwards structures. < 1387302405 371569 :Taneb!~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaah < 1387302443 7351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even infinite binary ones, although int-e makes a good argument there should be _some_ leaves hit < 1387302491 966212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://docs.racket-lang.org/unstable/2d.html < 1387302578 840523 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's something. < 1387302594 690697 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. cute. < 1387302669 199086 :taylanub!tub@p4FD92885.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha, neat. < 1387302796 426254 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a-maze-d. < 1387302868 658944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i guess you need a bidirectionally shortcutting (||) for this. (there's some concurrent unsafe implementation of that) < 1387302903 523571 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, http://hackage.haskell.org/package/unamb ... it's horrible. < 1387302946 941259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh unamb it was, i tried searching for amb < 1387302963 481071 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( a ||| b = (a || b) `unamb` (b || a) ) < 1387303000 195178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should work nicely for purely left or rightward branching, i think. < 1387303026 747543 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, 'nicely' ... it forks too much. < 1387303047 570080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean one of them will finish fast < 1387303089 341910 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit of a pity that concurrency is (as far as I can see) the only way to implement such a function. It's so nice in theory. < 1387303093 786659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i suppose what you want to do is ensure each of a and b is only evaluated once. i think there's a ghc function for that. < 1387303119 226368 :Lemuriano!~robbie@c-98-231-50-109.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387303141 727051 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc's runtime almost always ensures that, because thunks are replaced by black holes when entered. There's a small window where computations may get duplicated. < 1387303179 38589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose the problem appears when both a and b take long to finish, hm < 1387303187 392691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which doesn't shortcut much :P < 1387303208 270571 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In IO there is 'nodup' which fully ensures this, by taking a lock on the closure. It's required to make unsafePerformIO a bit safer.) < 1387303250 196210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a bunch of words about that here http://mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.com/2011/10/thunks-and-lazy-blackholes-introduction.html < 1387303328 43183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, I finally managed to reproduce that bizarre situation that I set up with weboflies a while ago: http://sprunge.us/fLSN < 1387303338 239480 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, ptrace has since been fixed to not override SIGKILL < 1387303350 597664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't lead to an actually unkillable process < 1387303355 443838 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Death under ptrace < 1387303382 533751 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/8502 was my last encounter with the perils of unsafeDupablePerformIO (which is unsafePerformIO without the 'nodup' lock) < 1387303425 357044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: isn't that pretty much asking for your I/O to happen an unpredictable number of times? < 1387303460 251350 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387303488 552937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I might not have guessed "non-integer", though < 1387303528 960628 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes. but it wasn't asking for the computation to be silently stopped in the middle, circumventing the 'withMVar' abstraction for exception safety. < 1387303557 371007 :Taneb!~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 144^2 * 5 < 1387303558 513977 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.7.205 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387303558 717633 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 103680 < 1387303570 355703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 144**2 * 5 < 1387303571 602392 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 103680.0 < 1387303589 599921 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ilu exponentiation < 1387303589 888451 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387303593 400763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, somehow I didn't imagine Haskell to have two different exponentiation operators < 1387303597 686707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 144 `bitxor` 2 * 5 < 1387303598 689571 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `bitxor' < 1387303602 584129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 144 `xor` 2 * 5 < 1387303603 718808 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 154 < 1387303607 180279 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it has three :) < 1387303615 402514 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type ((^),(^^),(**)) < 1387303616 235166 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Floating a2, Fractional a1, Integral b, Integral b1, Num a) => (a -> b -> a, a1 -> b1 -> a1, a2 -> a2 -> a2) < 1387303653 923235 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(^^ allows negative integer exponents) < 1387303694 129175 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 5 ^^ -1 < 1387303695 430008 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Precedence parsing error < 1387303695 635127 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : cannot mix `GHC.Real.^^' [infixr 8] and prefix `-' [infixl 6] in the same infix expression < 1387303698 47050 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "b" isn't a "PositiveIntegral" type, then? < 1387303705 717989 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 5 ^^ (-1) < 1387303706 434790 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.2 < 1387303715 620211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, the only language I can think of where that works is ADA (and VHDL by implication) < 1387303716 95633 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like *gasp* subtyping < 1387303737 177760 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 5 ^ (-1) < 1387303737 952673 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): *Exception: Negative exponent < 1387303756 344858 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 5 ** (-1) < 1387303757 752179 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.2 < 1387303792 399937 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval (2 :+ 3) ** (3 :+ 2) < 1387303793 416887 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.714143528054687 :+ (-4.569827583124736) < 1387303794 265334 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (-5) ** (-2) -- hmm. < 1387303795 405226 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4.0e-2 < 1387303819 741935 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0 ** 0 < 1387303820 799204 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0 < 1387303830 588219 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: 0 ** 0 < 1387303830 790637 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: scheme evaluation order, so it probably isn't). < 1387303846 80390 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: fungot sez that 0 ** 0 isn't 1.0. < 1387303846 283061 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: best would be if it wasn't clear < 1387303862 27900 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: of course it isn't clear, it's 0⁰. < 1387303862 556434 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: my computer's too sleepy. i am always looking at source code by mistake and even more fun than coding". perfect industrial language: enforce a style onto the programmer to give the standard bindings the extended meanings from srfi 1 < 1387304057 416254 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type ((^), (^^)) < 1387304058 127211 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Fractional a1, Integral b, Integral b1, Num a) => (a -> b -> a, a1 -> b1 -> a1) < 1387304175 705928 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the type was already there. < 1387304191 189187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, reading more than a dozen line backwards is for losers. < 1387304219 596761 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 to the power of 0 is or isn't 1 depending on what you're doing < 1387304239 922848 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank's < 1387304260 152795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's never anything other than 1, but it isn't necessarily always 1 either < 1387304277 679971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Your computer doesn't really have any kind of power management thing going on, I don't see how it's "too sleepy". < 1387304277 883652 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so, where's your editor? < 1387304285 558837 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: trdnh. < 1387304288 581335 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: tdnhe. < 1387304289 635558 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Is this some kind of trash talk? < 1387304289 841561 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: maybe you need another half a dozen city centers < 1387304306 744219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, maybe! < 1387304308 611804 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming the fungotputer is just strapped right to mains < 1387304309 165704 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: cl definitely defines ' first'. although there is also a director who makes videos for people like smerdyakov climb up and spend their time in irc rooms dedicated to technical computery subjects, have never heard of < 1387304333 11311 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :trdnh? < 1387304348 654388 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that really did not help. < 1387304366 810519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fungotputer goes at 3200 bogomips all the time. < 1387304367 14696 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: don't think so... i haven't been < 1387304378 263145 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0^0 < 1387304379 256148 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1387304380 309293 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Yeah, well, how'd *you* know? < 1387304380 797153 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: after that i can see the rules of static typing that i've ever known him too well, only 2 hours to find i had like 10k lines of pretty slick c o.o < 1387304384 351650 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0^^0 < 1387304385 435313 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0 < 1387304428 952077 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Truth revealed: fungot not written in Befunge, fungot instead written as 10k lines of "pretty slick" C. < 1387304429 197235 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i am adding that now. i'm gonna install freebsd once i find fnord < 1387304464 777505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some day I'll wake up to find a FreeBSD installation.) < 1387304469 763842 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387304480 966345 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: find: "fnord": Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type < 1387304481 209585 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am a person with the most recent one? < 1387304482 934953 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the 10k lines actually an implementation of befunge? < 1387304487 772977 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh. savvy of you. < 1387304488 14383 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's about to become negative for the first fnord return value' value doesn't print like that when reading < 1387304520 39107 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what fungot thinks about 'Qzyzzalroum' < 1387304520 305140 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: so it could be anywhere from 29 bits to 36 with that information. for example, you have 1 message. < 1387304566 146227 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: cfunge's written in C, and is approximately somewhere in that ballpark, so maybe that's what it was talking about. (Straight "wc -l" over all *.[ch] says 20039.) < 1387304574 421100 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have this quote on file: What does "Qzyzzalroum" mean in English usage? -- It means you should start the crossword over.) < 1387304618 89551 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck qzyzzalroum < 1387304633 299933 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1387304692 266933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A rouming duck. < 1387304797 658558 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://users.iafrica.com/p/pf/pfm/quotes.txt - this would fit here, I think: "I feel like if Atlanta had just tried a little harder it could have been a palindrome." < 1387304823 882831 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :atlanalta < 1387304834 65778 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see why it's not a palindrome < 1387304835 935787 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd contain anal < 1387304852 417952 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god forbid. < 1387304881 476392 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, why isn't palindrome a palindrome? < 1387304888 569726 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :palindromemordnilap < 1387304891 763791 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Super-strong neodymium magnets https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5Q6sbgSWtxn-CTaTLslOy558OrEwmX7U < 1387304900 866759 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it is constructed from usual roots. < 1387304969 260917 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Authentic Atlantan Usual Root, perfect for seasoning your regular meals! < 1387304991 342029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Eodermdrome had just tried a little harder it could have been a palindrome. < 1387305016 409599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it couldn't be minimal-length and also a palindrome < 1387305034 813641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, being a palindrome is actively hostile to being nonplanar < 1387305038 537039 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: haha the second one < 1387305044 851356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because half the characters are wasted < 1387305052 820951 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't do better than Eodermdromemordmredoe < 1387305095 902860 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did the name come from, again? < 1387305284 944714 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow they have same day delivery < 1387305289 903013 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for uh, magnets. emergency magnets? < 1387305353 783220 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure you could make a good action movie about most situations that would require you have a 300 N neodynium magnet within twenty-four hours < 1387305402 462362 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387305414 222282 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 PART :#esoteric < 1387305415 735094 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387305422 635823 :nanii!~canaima@186.89.79.187 PART :#esoteric < 1387305477 109332 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you already have an already strong enough magnet at hand, you could acquire all of the world's magnets just by waving it over your head and ducking. < 1387305561 532656 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, there you go. < 1387305601 805465 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't think the waving and ducking would matter much < 1387305626 500808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a book about wordplay, which mentioned an existing result (from somewhere else) that that pattern of letters was the shortest that lead to a nonplanar graph < 1387305647 276547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the specific letters there are chosen to maximise the pronounceability < 1387305679 168163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by the original result, I think) < 1387305721 974298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely enough, real words tend to be more likely to be nonplanar due to embedding K_3,3 than they are due to embedding K_5 < 1387305756 977277 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387305861 755012 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387305884 802690 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387306536 684287 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1387306853 738247 :Lemuriano!~robbie@c-98-231-50-109.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387307126 877369 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, so it seems that the reason that function names in PHP are so inconsistent is that they were chosen to avoid hash collisions in the early versions < 1387307137 322020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the hash function was heavily based on strlen < 1387307145 430615 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what. < 1387307174 514632 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, somehow that manages to fit two awful ideas into one sentence < 1387307189 660129 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :look i've heard that from three different people already and if i refused to acknowledge it from them i'll refuse to acknowledge it from you < 1387307199 250087 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bleaches himself
< 1387307249 570596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/e8k4n2mx1y5vsa4/Zrzut%20ekranu%202013-12-17%2008.37.01.png screenshot of the code in question < 1387307262 534404 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :go find "php-1.99s" if you want to verify < 1387307285 446140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a screenshot of code somehow more authentic than the text version? < 1387307304 725616 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuuuuuuuucking chrsut < 1387307321 276815 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i can tell by the pixels < 1387307335 870532 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION then maple syrups himself, for a smooth, perfumed skin and quality hair
< 1387307364 850588 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch, those keys aren't even in alphabetical order < 1387307371 260061 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, defined as an array cmd_table[22][35] so that the 0 items for length 0 take the space of 35 entries < 1387307376 450874 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or is that 22?) < 1387307386 427054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rasmus lerdorf's excuse that he just made PHP for his own use indicates a shocking lack of self-respect, I would say < 1387307423 703907 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm reminded of the joke claim that "C" is a recursive acronym < 1387307426 441201 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The screenshot doesn't really look like proof of the claim, though. < 1387307433 193342 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to look into lerdorf's mind < 1387307437 745684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the comment at the top is illuminating < 1387307465 66470 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It doesn't say anything about selecting function names in order to optimize the "hash" table, however. < 1387307476 160117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C stands for C.C < 1387307477 108061 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: a recursive acronym of? < 1387307495 497679 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :◐.◐ < 1387307504 864288 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it stands for "C", obviously < 1387307533 345936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there's an email from Rasmus Lerdorf going around on Reddit where he/she admits to it < 1387307538 763041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: No manual entry for chrsut < 1387307551 931409 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, that's more relevant, certainly. < 1387307601 435775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think it's in question that rasmus lerdorf goes by "he" < 1387307617 396391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he was born in a town named Qeqertarsuaq < 1387307628 796399 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :greenland? < 1387307636 951649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qeqertarsuaq#Notable_current.2Fformer_residents how very sad for them < 1387307637 687349 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387307695 203568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes < 1387307793 9726 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I watche that short video by the beeb yesterday that explains how to pronounce Mandela's name, his native village's name and “xhosa”. < 1387307810 917846 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :practicing clicks when you take your morning shower makes for a very strange activity. < 1387307816 362556 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does english even have the hponeme for 'xhosa' < 1387307822 155483 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll take that as a no. < 1387307824 175573 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*phonemes* < 1387307836 874519 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't. < 1387307840 383489 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously not < 1387307845 235916 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's tonal too, huh < 1387307849 545754 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and spirant! < 1387307863 279133 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm used to click constants being spelled ! or double dagger < 1387307890 277385 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :∥ĥ < 1387307897 824934 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm guessing i can blame dumb brits for this < 1387307904 194821 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. I don't have superscript h readily available. < 1387307912 353273 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, but only two tones, even we have that many tones < 1387307936 517153 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION eyes olsner... “you scandinavian!”
< 1387307963 422302 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap... it has *18* click consonants < 1387307988 199419 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does. it is insane. I need a fternooner to collect myself. < 1387308127 904334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: https://twitter.com/DanaDanger/status/413024939856244736 < 1387308329 966762 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1387308349 716515 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the ǃXóõ language has 83 click sounds, the largest consonant inventory of any known language" o.O < 1387308424 250598 :impomatic!~digital_w@36.104.208.46.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387308425 177921 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :any vowels? < 1387308448 623088 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: five, I think < 1387308514 952484 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, no, five vowel "qualities" ... so 25-30 something vowels apparently < 1387308537 248166 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :impressive < 1387308588 612966 :impomatic!~digital_w@36.104.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :-) Any OMEGA players here? (The tank programming game, not the roguelike) < 1387308686 775307 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387309308 556060 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck omega < 1387309322 828676 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1387309326 718665 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1387309349 381428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia: it's all greek to you? < 1387309447 70725 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck iota < 1387309448 316701 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iota definition: the 9th letter of the Greek alphabet. < 1387309461 91436 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot my life. < 1387309461 383838 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: c++ c, remember a bit better for the body in the clause test specifications? < 1387309746 264458 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387310047 16200 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Therefore Moser's number, although incomprehensibly large, is vanishingly small compared to Graham's number” ← my brain hurts. < 1387310128 29982 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387310166 768230 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not your fault > is hard to compute on some reprsentations < 1387310502 981280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1387310963 671157 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that sounds like fun < 1387311282 856162 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What programming language should you use in your battles with the judge? Most likely, the language which you know best. The judge currently accepts programs written in C, C++, Pascal, and Java, so your favorite language is probably available. < 1387311287 582838 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1387311303 920136 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no eodermdrome?? < 1387311321 430706 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idris? < 1387311328 561467 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no c+=? < 1387311347 288626 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :four languages? < 1387311369 368303 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a really small set to include everyone's favourite language < 1387311379 21898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I thought Pascal had mostly fallen out of favour before Java was invented < 1387311401 46401 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are only like 2 online coding competition sites that have an actual variety of languages < 1387311405 675413 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda sux < 1387311433 603714 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :C ate Pascal's lunch < 1387311443 955527 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen anarchy golf? < 1387311460 85001 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anarchy golf is one < 1387311511 942731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems to accept anything remotely BF-complete that shinh could get to run on the server < 1387311533 117517 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should finish my anagol language < 1387311547 112029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some sub-BF-complete languages like m4 < 1387311608 978709 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me: hey, what are some well-known but not 100% trivial sequences/sets of integers. i'm thinking like, fibonacci numbers, prime numbers < 1387311619 523190 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thue-morse < 1387311646 663464 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a neat one because it needs infinite state to compute < 1387311687 212592 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I guess they all do < 1387311727 412742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also do the zeros of the Riemann zeta function < 1387311733 691978 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably just -2, -4, -6, -8, etc. < 1387311735 862426 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it might not be < 1387311975 984533 :Taneb!~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :digits of pi? < 1387311982 194608 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm gonna give my golf language some built-ins for "is this number prime/fibonacci/..." and "generate the first n prime/fibonacci/... numbers" < 1387312007 920862 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAURGH! < 1387312009 148593 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like that shows up quite a bit in code golf < 1387312022 232614 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone know how to import a TTF file into LaTeX? < 1387312027 732861 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i wanna somehow make 2D ascii manipulation easier, but < 1387312054 131332 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Digits of pi are pretty arbitrary < 1387312057 450429 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except in base pi < 1387312062 851625 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 < 1387312064 448193 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pinary < 1387312317 13457 :Lemuriano!~robbie@c-98-231-50-109.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387313164 951867 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, it works! local install, no need to pollute the system texmf → http://fachschaft.physik.uni-greifswald.de/~stitch/ttf.html) < 1387313226 924751 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have there been any efforts to make like a "high-level" wrapper over LaTeX < 1387313245 292800 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels so crufty... i need LaTeX coffeescript basically < 1387313255 419183 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387313272 79580 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387313509 760490 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387313518 10271 :Lemuriano!~robbie@c-98-231-50-109.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387313549 386044 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387313605 538542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_: do you know of any? < 1387314024 706727 :Taneb!~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm really looking forward to the film of Into the Woods < 1387314105 175226 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, don't know < 1387314153 353999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1387314174 71384 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask #latex I guess < 1387314198 332365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: well I use Markdown for that sometimes, via Pandoc < 1387314215 599239 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can still embed LaTeX commands for stuff Markdown doesn't handle (as long as you don't need to render the same markdown to HTML too) < 1387314280 793032 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike if we add a shift0 operator that creates a continuation that takes no arguments, then there is a 1 to 1 corrispodence between delimited continuations and lambda calc < 1387314336 964583 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :curried lambda calc < 1387314620 35052 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387314789 436213 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387315033 271279 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net NICK :Ngevd < 1387315071 157711 :Taneb!~LordAro@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1387315366 397524 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io JOIN :#esoteric < 1387315387 667348 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387315400 137408 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have a bouncer now < 1387315559 415441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :♪ dĩng ♪ improved PDF, now with Old Hylian! < 1387315643 597481 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category theory < 1387315645 434475 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :In category theory, category theory is a theory in the category of theories. < 1387315692 337158 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to a theory in the category of prizewinning hams? < 1387315700 319684 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1387315710 783955 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be Hexham theory < 1387315719 641694 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this related to the ham Homer Simpson won for saving the town < 1387315742 131968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0xHAM < 1387315843 158873 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYjThRj7uoY < 1387315843 998296 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1387315896 865702 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, github's syntax highlighting doesn't support \verb!stuff! < 1387315950 632970 :36DABZBGX!~energoprg@91.210.100.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387315952 842166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: you can compute the nth digit of pi in base 16 without computing all the ones before it < 1387315956 210866 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome 36DABZBGX < 1387315958 453973 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0936DABZBGX: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06irc.dal.net.) < 1387315982 157017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailey%E2%80%93Borwein%E2%80%93Plouffe_formula < 1387315988 101535 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I seem to have lumped lexande and monotone's quotes into the Quotes from Other People section. < 1387315998 987713 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lexande would you like your quotes to be nicely sectionned? < 1387315999 190860 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387316011 27476 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's okay, I'm usually an "other people" anyway. < 1387316013 269770 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :polytone: same thing as to lexande ↑ < 1387316018 689992 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1387316027 113690 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were quicker than me :P < 1387316053 164211 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot that I was even quoted until you mentioned it, haha. < 1387316062 821849 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hells yea pslq < 1387316083 526334 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387316106 445447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pslq? < 1387316119 646759 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The search procedure consists of choosing a range of parameter values for s, b, and m, evaluating the sums out to many digits, and then using an integer relation finding algorithm (typically Helaman Ferguson's PSLQ algorithm) to find a vector A that adds up those intermediate sums to a well-known constant or perhaps to zero." < 1387316129 527825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1387316144 334630 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an algorithm where you throw a vector of reals at it and it tries to find an algebraic relation between em < 1387316148 316542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neato < 1387316150 794137 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: CHICKEN SUSHI < 1387316153 150984 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387316164 710926 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, without powers specifically < 1387316178 191971 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean you can do that by adding to the vector, but < 1387316196 127222 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh LLL is another such algorithm < 1387316209 673063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard of that one, I guess it's good for attacking groups of related RSA keys? < 1387316285 246571 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have this paper where they use it to find the 240-degree polynomial the fourth bifurcation point of the logistic map is a root of < 1387316299 487615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that useful knowledge < 1387316300 842534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A notable success of this approach was the use of the PSLQ algorithm to find the integer relation that led to the Bailey-Borwein-Plouffe formula for the value of π." whoa, cool < 1387316326 645370 :36DABZBGX!~energoprg@91.210.100.14 QUIT :K-Lined < 1387316340 405618 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well, they didn't even know for sure it was algebraic, so i guess < 1387316377 19899 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-110.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387316389 286940 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSLQ is really magic < 1387316399 966814 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"here's a random irrational-looking number, give me a formula for it" < 1387316409 249185 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387316412 994007 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, kmc~ http://crd.lbl.gov/~dhbailey/dhbpapers/tenproblems.pdf‎ < 1387316421 842436 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://crd.lbl.gov/~dhbailey/dhbpapers/tenproblems.pdf < 1387316422 725369 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that paper is amazing < 1387316424 980109 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mysterious. < 1387316524 956806 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with guest appearance by khinchin's constant, i might add < 1387316589 386878 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool how we can't spell russian names consistently. ever. at all. fuck < 1387316610 897690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Хи́нчин's constant < 1387316615 960908 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooler name imo < 1387316616 167201 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :analyzing the simpsons for esoteric symbols http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLzhuUdycYQ < 1387316643 632353 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think you're right < 1387316666 613853 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though my favorite value in this paper is the expected value of the distance between two random points on different sides of a square, since it doesn't sound like it should be too strange < 1387316716 440768 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387316775 924839 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1387316776 162282 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1387316882 764047 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the sequence of sinc integrals and a triple integral of the inverse of a sum of cosines somehow involving generalized hyperfactorials, i love it <3 < 1387317254 626408 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or how e^pi - pi is NOT QUITE 20 < 1387317273 968737 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that's actually in the paper, but sure! < 1387317291 625862 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: the amazing thing is that 20 is EXACTLY 20 < 1387317312 202573 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you prove it, < 1387317354 546738 :taylanub!tub@p4FD92885.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PART #esoteric :"Using Circe, the loveliest of all IRC clients" < 1387317375 191893 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I've never learned how to prove stuff < 1387317375 921991 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387317508 414093 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387317518 868595 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387317520 569548 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have mercy internet < 1387317659 860766 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387317702 868575 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387317764 20490 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-110.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387317794 825644 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387317822 75186 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first problem in experimental mathematics is apparently not overfilling LaTeX boxes... < 1387317936 568984 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1387317984 822681 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387318006 43507 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387318053 820503 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the author line runs straight into the right margin. < 1387318125 267331 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Client Quit < 1387318574 607055 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I bet you can do that in every base, but 16 is the easiest < 1387318615 9835 :kranchik!~kranchik@91.210.102.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387318921 998029 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387318983 499512 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387319227 831336 :kranchik!~kranchik@91.210.102.41 QUIT :K-Lined < 1387319907 171150 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387320560 866027 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :base 36 is more fun < 1387321110 744267 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtu.be/YA1J-raGinQ < 1387321521 66796 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387321557 196886 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387322058 430643 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387322861 506932 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-184-18.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387323214 922184 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387323504 659260 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-184-18.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :dod < 1387323508 383165 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-209.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387323675 762702 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pop < 1387323756 559483 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387323962 988658 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387324786 954544 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387324862 926886 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387324920 109917 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387325141 260909 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387325762 902856 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-95.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387327005 314473 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387327222 917281 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387327743 898085 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-95.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387327858 722623 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387328035 221658 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Eventually I noticed that the longer the machine had been powered down before I tried to boot, the more likely it was to boot correctly." OS programming is scary < 1387328042 409115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387328052 418764 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i didn't know vaurora had a twitter hells yea < 1387328073 975997 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387328106 825992 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I used the BIOS to dump the DRAM (memory) on the machine and noticed that each time I dumped the memory, more and more bits were zeroes instead of ones. Of course I knew intellectually that DRAM loses data when you turned the power off" oh god, what the fuck < 1387328316 450959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :her personal twitter is protected and I'm too shy to like apply for membership < 1387328372 256158 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily, i'm too unthinking to not apply for membersip. < 1387328376 58937 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ship < 1387328403 58498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should give more money to Ada Initiative < 1387328408 947470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you should all give money to OpenHatch: http://openhatch.org/donate/ < 1387328430 551761 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if she looks at my twitter she's just gonna see a buncha nonsense tho < 1387328473 176770 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, sketch of a penguin. that's hard to turn down < 1387328498 411582 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hmm, what's the "what the fuck" in that quote? < 1387328510 908701 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: that this was relevant to software < 1387328598 848995 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll drop a few bucks at openhatch once i have an address again. i could go for more stickers. i wonder if they're nice vinyl ones < 1387328800 228065 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, my system is spending 1% of (non-idle) cpu time in memchr < 1387328826 199444 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad i don't have an income again :V < 1387329307 480068 :Guest74908!~cow@202.146.228.10.static.centrin.net.id JOIN :#esoteric < 1387329318 551377 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387329343 159668 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387329346 682578 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've figured out how to do single line iterations < 1387329391 311312 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a line contains, say, $ in front of a variable, build a for loop with it < 1387329431 317622 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :start the variable at 0, increment it by 1 every iteration... the only thing you're missing is a stop condition < 1387329433 789511 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387329444 262577 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about < 1387329446 116132 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for instance < 1387329453 875652 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387329458 991459 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387329461 323070 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vector[$n] += 5 < 1387329464 474067 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns into < 1387329495 948237 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for(n=0; ????; n++) { vector[n] += 5; } < 1387329498 508086 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this novel syntax for some system yu're coming up with because i already hate it < 1387329515 437970 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387329532 344431 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to figure out the shortest possible syntax for iterations over vectors < 1387329542 73957 :Guest74908!~cow@202.146.228.10.static.centrin.net.id QUIT : < 1387329560 414720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're on the path to reinventing APL. or SIMD. < 1387329568 920100 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes please skip to that part < 1387329585 72716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"or the List monad" < 1387329590 130416 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not familiar with APL. SIMD is something else. < 1387329614 265593 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (+5) [3,1,18] < 1387329615 293589 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [8,6,23] < 1387329621 678319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you'll eventually end up with "vector += 5" if you go down this route really < 1387329622 659241 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly inspired by logical programming tbh < 1387329632 760889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then if you get up to "vec1[$n] += vec2[$n]", etc... < 1387329634 677378 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott : that's the idea < 1387329634 866369 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now replace "map" with the Prince symbol and you've got APL < 1387329654 356632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no, APL/J/etc. would just use + directly < 1387329658 251261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kinda the point of array programming < 1387329659 258242 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually "vec1[$n] += vec2[$n]" is a good example < 1387329665 559846 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: stfu nerd < 1387329668 460778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1 2 3 + 4 5 6 < 1387329668 768646 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 5 7 9 < 1387329676 154802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) vec1 =: 1 2 3 < 1387329676 515677 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: |ok < 1387329678 862310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) vec2 =: 4 5 6 < 1387329679 244248 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: |ok < 1387329681 326090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) vec1 + vec2 < 1387329681 715057 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 5 7 9 < 1387329694 683502 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the infinite five operator < 1387329696 736097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) vec1 .= vec1 + vec2 < 1387329697 148499 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: |domain error < 1387329697 337278 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: | vec1 .=vec1+vec2 < 1387329701 547360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387329706 459043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what < 1387329713 710690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) vec1 =: vec1 + vec2 < 1387329714 82631 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: |ok < 1387329715 852417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) vec1 < 1387329716 211333 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 5 7 9 < 1387329719 970672 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come you did .= instead of =:... right. < 1387329740 928508 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should translate to for(n=0; n The first problem in experimental mathematics is apparently not overfilling LaTeX boxes... <-- ah memories < 1387345788 959487 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387346097 888291 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387347409 858437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Overfull \hbox (0.76785pt too wide)! < 1387349341 615263 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL: Hackage has "dbus-core", "dbus" and "DBus", all different. And all having modules named DBus.*. (AFAICT, "dbus" is a direct sequel of "dbus-core", a pure-Haskell DBus protocol implementation, while "DBus" is a FFI-based binding on the native DBus libraries.) < 1387349356 635087 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387349380 391365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1387349539 11246 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387349717 975933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of them have a different API, of course. < 1387349740 178986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :always plural interfaces < 1387349746 291743 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though the one in dbus is a reasonable, simplified descendant of dbus-core.) < 1387349807 876937 :Lemuriano!~robbie@c-98-231-50-109.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387349845 281560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : i have been paid to write perl, haskell, c, c++, java, assembly, shell, make, rust, javascript, prolly some others < 1387349850 825434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot PHP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1387349895 141940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also python and ruby jeez < 1387349896 652751 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you been paid to specifically write in each of those things, or has it been the case of "write with whatever you want as long as it makes some sort of sense"? < 1387349922 243120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of each < 1387349970 644853 :Lemuriano!~robbie@c-98-231-50-109.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1387349995 69548 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does changing your XMonad config while at work count as being paid to write Haskell? < 1387350017 693137 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did two summers of undergrad research, the first summer i wrote everything in perl, then I learned Haskell so I used it for everything the second summer < 1387350022 272747 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope this was considered an improvement < 1387350062 312452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sure < 1387350070 519786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, a point, then. < 1387350095 386611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure i also used ghci for some misc data munging somewhere along the way < 1387350111 463060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started writing an improved object file diff tool in Haskell for Ksplice but never finished it < 1387350206 171188 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had fungot join the IRC channel of our research group, does that count as being paid to write Funge-98? (Perhaps not quite.) < 1387350206 481495 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah i know, but lament and fizzie are around. or e-mail me. < 1387350234 862442 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you even have an email account? < 1387350235 171362 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: or you could put it more formally designated as ieee 1003 and the international reach that only we are positioned to provide! < 1387350284 788819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :To quote oerjan, OKAY. < 1387350374 643056 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run addquote ' OKAY' # ThereIsNoSuchThingAsNotability < 1387350380 284382 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1146) OKAY < 1387350534 557545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1387350596 365880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is in that generation that prefers twitter to email < 1387350596 812296 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the fnord returns some error code, after all, she is!"" at http://paste.lisp.org/ display/ fnord: < 1387350880 470980 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://sprunge.us/LNdZ < 1387351073 207029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1387351279 617288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no I disregarded LOWER CASE. < 1387351358 41140 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387351381 467142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHA* < 1387351400 195048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, hth, hand < 1387351421 923125 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387351464 228949 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :o'kay this was much more interest-ing http://sprunge.us/XBHK < 1387351603 368040 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, hth is legal again? < 1387351627 430907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not recall some of these. < 1387351642 3582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is legal < 1387351644 959116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: no, i'm a filthy law breaker hth < 1387351647 675121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :long live hth < 1387351660 233989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: plz disable the hth disabler thx < 1387351663 959435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i miss your hths < 1387351690 682734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: careful, elliott might ban you < 1387351710 55178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not really, he's getting mellow with age) < 1387351720 832613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: imo he doesn't even go on irc anymore < 1387351797 626384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen elliott < 1387351802 2598 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-12-18 01:28:02: isn't matlab curly brace? or at least close to it < 1387351814 302184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1387351817 376571 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for shachaf is Tue Dec 17 23:30:14 2013 < 1387351820 406063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he'll say something in the future < 1387351823 127518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't mean anything < 1387351851 526863 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time lambdabot < 1387351851 715557 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live on the internet, do you expect me to have a local time? < 1387351852 358743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just after banning you, probably < 1387351895 762762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although how he'll do it with matlab i don't know < 1387351915 353418 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the beauty of matlab. < 1387352007 666787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's MATLAB not matlab you heathens. < 1387352021 404840 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like saying "god" instead of "GOD". < 1387352028 588741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :YHWH whatever < 1387352033 332301 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sounds like HTH.) < 1387352034 617117 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do that all the time. < 1387352045 418643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YMMV < 1387352077 396877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, is YHWH short for Yes, He Would Help? How appropriate. < 1387352146 147239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given the temperament of the old testament god, perhaps "appropriate" is not quite the right word, I don't think he's very keen on helping in general. < 1387352323 834864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, hell wants humans < 1387352651 815246 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387352722 48311 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1387352776 577930 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1387353256 888835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, someone's actually using the while (i --> 0) spelling. I thought that was a myth. < 1387353361 356889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tale told to frighten small children < 1387353369 479074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is using it? < 1387353375 35002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone on ##c. < 1387353392 417882 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : is there a way to declare "i" inside while() in this example?: int i = 8; while (i --> 0) printf("%d ", i); < 1387353426 725389 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure they are either joking or being joked at < 1387353437 717606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna go with "no" < 1387353469 397663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for (int i = 8; i --> 0;) < 1387353480 926922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, well, that's not acceptable for some reason. < 1387353497 265569 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very imrotant that we use a while < 1387353518 456192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://sprunge.us/IjNY < 1387353537 882337 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Best channel?) < 1387353559 135336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does /wrist mean... oh < 1387353600 562820 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use while (i--) pretty often < 1387353612 426010 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Yes, but do you use The Arrow? < 1387353637 626492 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :only in java (because you have to) < 1387353667 315821 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it mean < 1387353670 906296 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the best, because after something like i = 42; while (i --> 0) ... your not-familiar-with-C readers will be tempted to do i = 0; while (i --> 42) ... too. < 1387353683 9981 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :flipping them off? < 1387353693 231185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I didn't get the /wrist thing.) < 1387353763 822078 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/N1QFcWY.jpg meanwhile, in the uk < 1387353856 901242 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's some kind of a not-real thing, right? Right? Please? < 1387353872 115659 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you suggesting a tabloid may be inaccurate < 1387353875 961539 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's libel fucker < 1387353912 127397 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you mean "f***er". < 1387353941 219961 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too tired and emotional to censor myself, [insinuates that you are a paedophile] < 1387353943 570179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s ok, just don't use the c**v word < 1387353963 960430 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fizzie: also, it can't be real. his shirt says "soccer".) < 1387353974 811883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ooh good point < 1387354006 317618 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "flogged 'em to the junkies" bit at the very least reads like a parody. < 1387354063 693633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boy fails to blend into reality, takes it out on cat < 1387354140 592009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, in the email: [[ This is an official advice from the FBI foreign remittance/telegraphic dept. it has come to our notice that bank of Nigeria has released $8m to BANK OF AMERICA in your name as the beneficiary, The bank Nigeria knowing fully well that they do not have enough facilities to effect this payment from Nigeria to your account, They used what we know as a “secret ... < 1387354146 593528 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... diplomatic transit payment” (S.T.D.P) to pay this fund through wire transfer, but this means of transfer can not reflect to your account as this was wrong method of transfer. ]] < 1387354164 664151 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spike timing dependent plasticity < 1387354174 116747 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those wacky Nigerians, they keep using those STDPs even though they're obviously the wrong method of transfer. < 1387354194 398109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I need to send a "Diplomatic Immunity Seal Of Transfer(DIST)" or something. < 1387354205 39460 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must be legit, all those acronyms. < 1387354221 545164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sealed highly important transfer < 1387354250 838651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(How come a "secret diplomatic transit payment" is a STDP and not a SDTP, anyway?) < 1387354283 504130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's probably one of those english/french ordering compromises < 1387354311 699235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :transfer secrét diplomatique du paye < 1387354323 438269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Meanwhile, i have decided to scan and send to you a copy of my identity as evidence, so you can be aware of whom you are dealing with and i have also informed that entire FBI Department Offices in each states to back out regarding this case because i have decided to handle this situation personally to ensure that i deal with you accordingly if you fail to provide the necessary requirement ... < 1387354324 30772 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i hope the fbi actually has a "telegraphic dept" < 1387354329 446426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... which we requested from you." < 1387354338 826057 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie you aren't even in the united states are you < 1387354347 157213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no. < 1387354357 606849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he's scanned a copy of his identity, so. < 1387354358 730996 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's the finnish bureau of investigation < 1387354361 44107 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice of the FBI to protect the whole world instead of americans < 1387354364 168200 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just americans* < 1387354385 635563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they can't even keep finnish spam inside finland, you think they manage to keep fbi spam outside it? < 1387354393 292736 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've gotten email before from this same guy, he's "FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III". < 1387354421 992348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously, most of the spam i see these days is finnish. although i guess that's after nvg's filter.) < 1387354439 400621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our spam is too potent to be contained by your puny filters. < 1387354470 477620 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Subject: Are You Sure Rev. Thomas Is Your Next of Kin!!!" No!!! I'm not sure at all!!! < 1387354755 62985 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387354872 21227 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387356323 280153 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaah Namco High has been released < 1387356476 133299 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://fioraaeterna.tumblr.com/post/70376905191/ < 1387356521 169000 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :No spoilers, please! < 1387356577 628831 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoilers: it keeps happening < 1387356599 513218 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoiler davesprite is davesprite < 1387356890 7645 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387356986 101606 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What was the name of the guy from X-Files? < 1387357139 400178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: crimbo < 1387357225 282785 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, Anti-bravoman is pretty cool < 1387357640 495422 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1387357739 107464 :kmc_!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387357812 213808 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387357814 872490 :kmc_!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :kmc < 1387357854 713817 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387357855 457487 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pogozqnqbtwnqlci QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387357855 457616 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uauifryqeazkoygw QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387357855 677740 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387357856 1634 :rntz!~rntz@eos.sp.cs.cmu.edu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387357928 612150 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387357928 798712 :rntz!~rntz@eos.sp.cs.cmu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387357928 798842 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pogozqnqbtwnqlci JOIN :#esoteric < 1387357928 798914 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uauifryqeazkoygw JOIN :#esoteric < 1387357928 798985 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1387357956 729594 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387358180 17143 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387358180 521269 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pogozqnqbtwnqlci QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387358180 707768 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uauifryqeazkoygw QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387358180 894290 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387358181 94515 :rntz!~rntz@eos.sp.cs.cmu.edu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387358219 644448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure which guy FreeFull meant. < 1387358238 494952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mulder, maybe. That's close-ish to Mueller. < 1387358322 301033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mꙮller < 1387358332 499782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh irc, where else can you walk into a room and find a motionless duplicate of yourself < 1387358338 420618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the socially acceptable response is to murder them < 1387358365 744098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are some netwurk games like that. < 1387358390 381706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly the duplicates should argue they're the real ones more often < 1387358504 433518 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387358504 656204 :rntz!~rntz@eos.sp.cs.cmu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387358504 656332 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pogozqnqbtwnqlci JOIN :#esoteric < 1387358504 656403 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uauifryqeazkoygw JOIN :#esoteric < 1387358504 656474 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1387358700 655406 :impomatic!~digital_w@36.104.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As soon oerjan disconnects I'm going to grab his nick and argue I'm the one who should survive. < 1387358843 457890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i am asking for that. < 1387360694 132908 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear god I've found a cameo < 1387360834 458185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as it wasn't a camel < 1387360955 216159 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a camembert. < 1387360981 419175 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I reached AN ending < 1387361011 490063 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Camelopard" is kind of a silly name for a giraffe. < 1387361027 122495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this one of those choose your own camel books < 1387361055 218525 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it's a dating sim about video game characters < 1387361189 755082 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387361298 712607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :chraming < 1387361408 989459 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got a good ending with the ship from Galaga < 1387361514 666419 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "good ending"? < 1387361576 271356 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone might argue that any ending is a good ending, viz. that you don't have to keep playing. < 1387361582 242393 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1387361978 394001 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!SENT_START I DON'T THINK ANYONE COULD BUY AND TODAY BUT THINGS CHANGE WHEN PEOPLE DIE !SENT_END < 1387362082 721402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think fizzie is revealing himself as a bot < 1387362147 284775 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!SENT_START I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE INSINUATING THERE I AM MADE OF SOFT HUMAN FLESH !SENT_END < 1387362178 969554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1387362947 981972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/efBH those wacky university students, right? < 1387363504 297430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that will be ex-university student < 1387363637 223755 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also that "Page 4" in there is spurious.) < 1387363741 882774 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387364172 133516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1387364972 893105 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387365205 894285 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387367745 935356 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1387367766 860166 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387368747 52626 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1387368774 5182 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387369084 39069 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1387369101 880261 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387371528 375617 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387371539 803066 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387371549 265453 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :good moily < 1387371622 973140 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like now would be a very good time to buy btc, but it seems like so much effort, cuz i know there's no easy way < 1387371858 628181 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good quintorning! < 1387371943 872790 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387372039 494550 :Hanswurst!~hans@212.152.173.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387372065 647492 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Hanswurst < 1387372070 542821 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08Hanswurst: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02irc.dal.net.) < 1387372075 445887 :Hanswurst!~hans@212.152.173.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1387372084 624535 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: there seems to be a few Canadian sites for investing in BTC. < 1387372115 135153 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do they allow you to pay electronically? < 1387372186 767239 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like so, but the acronyms are colliding with my uncaffeinated brain, so I'm missing many details. < 1387372704 125504 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1387372717 910399 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: should I add in the # cömment to the `addquote you made 6 hours ago? < 1387372737 513538 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: don't worry. 12 oz of tea are brewing. < 1387372762 34489 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387372992 341908 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It did not end up in the quote, so I guess not. I don't know. Is there a law on these things? < 1387373103 493847 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: verdict? < 1387373103 741040 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://www.call-with-current-continuation.org/ eggs/ search.scm. i mean is < 1387373116 745222 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I mean, your opinion on the matter? < 1387373117 74334 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: fnord sez the thermometer now interesting rather than solved problems." at http://paste.lisp.org/ display/ fnord < 1387373145 503653 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you bot says you should mind thermometers insted of the problem. so no comment it is. < 1387373163 212461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's fair. < 1387373913 332526 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: (I very subtly and discreetly added you to the PDF cocoonspirators.) < 1387373952 373626 :Hanswurst!~hans@212.152.173.179 PART :#esoteric < 1387374073 25298 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: (same thing.) < 1387374084 258704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a very discreet process, disregarding the automatic email alerts. < 1387374112 167208 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :muah ah ah. < 1387374229 984269 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am 12 and what is this wisdom repo < 1387374327 105458 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 12? it is the repo to the Source of the PDF. < 1387374368 12310 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what pdf. what is it for < 1387374394 245809 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the PDF in the /topic ↑ < 1387374472 149176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other wisdom is there than the wisdom of #esoteric, really? < 1387374522 53535 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey JOIN :#esoteric < 1387374656 399127 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387374665 996193 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't know what twelves quintopia is, so I'm going to assume he's a herd of zebras. < 1387374861 252033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was like a time of day. Like, "I'm totally middays", and so on. < 1387375176 35784 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387375583 36726 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387375589 795171 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387375714 6084 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :small follow-up on the amplituhedron → http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/12/a-quantum-revolution-against-feynman-diagrams/ < 1387375732 912670 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387376010 923508 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn33-215.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387376249 571881 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this pdf is too big to read < 1387376266 620370 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i wanted to add a wisdom but i can't backtick on my phone < 1387376608 51435 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: can you copy and paste on your phone? < 1387376648 927835 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1387376655 731570 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :jconn: 96{a. < 1387376656 97260 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ` < 1387376662 930538 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you want more? < 1387376665 855339 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :jconn: 60$96{a. < 1387376666 242263 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` < 1387376698 208061 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to maintain, debug, analyze, refactor and otherwise understand J? < 1387376722 487558 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: imo, no < 1387376730 700576 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really useful for large programs < 1387376735 435212 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some people disagree < 1387376836 89057 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :) (0j1+i.9)#96{a. NB. all sizes, in case you can only copy and paste full words < 1387376836 487705 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ` `` ``` ```` ````` `````` ``````` ```````` < 1387376947 969636 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval iterate ('`':) "`" < 1387376950 29503 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :["`","``","```","````","`````","``````","```````","````````","`````````","``````````","```````````","````````````","`````````````","``````````````","```````````````","````````````````","`````````````````","``````````````````","```````````````````","````````````````````","`````````````````````","``````````````````````","```````````````````````","````````````````````````","`````````````````````````","``````````````````````````","```` < 1387377079 146006 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval concat (iterate ('`':) " ") < 1387377079 822695 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" ` `` ``` ```` ````` `````` ``````` ```````` ````````` `````````` ``````````` ```````````` ````````````` `````````````` ``````````````` ```````````````` ````````````````` `````````````````` ``````````````````` ```````````````````` ````````````````````` `````````````````````` ``````````````````````` ```````````````````````` ````````````````````````` `````````````````````````` ``````````````````````````` ```````````````````````````` < 1387378536 881487 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387378840 290043 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1387379315 888364 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387379497 13906 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387381626 187792 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387381932 975164 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387382525 866156 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387383381 960412 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any reference implementation to https://github.com/trevp/axolotl/wiki ? < 1387383397 793429 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387383712 926501 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387383989 475152 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387384015 968167 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387384136 45885 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387384287 923869 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387384490 19640 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387384510 277704 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387384515 597001 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387384974 933515 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387385138 642674 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-19.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387385176 684689 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-19.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1387385176 926475 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387385435 373802 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-207.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387385509 697110 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the ticks guys < 1387385562 85643 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn PHP is Worse Is Better with strong lock-in effects for the web ecosystem. < 1387385567 480610 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1387387782 183976 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn PHP is the most static typed and mathematically proven to be the best programming language ever. < 1387387786 816478 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1387387807 564362 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that you knew than. < 1387387923 58108 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387388110 32533 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387388392 154799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/php < 1387388395 485867 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387388499 927270 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :("PHP" == 0), of course. < 1387388560 919572 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1387388574 257642 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? PHP < 1387388576 99062 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1387388580 52872 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? php < 1387388581 741055 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :php? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1387388586 463960 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn PHP is Worse Is Better with strong lock-in effects for the web ecosystem. < 1387388591 159441 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1387388594 728018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1387388608 974028 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/PHP < 1387388610 330141 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdom/PHP': No such file or directory < 1387388617 339976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are y'all putting in these wisdom entries < 1387388631 852529 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there was another php entry that you deleted that was already there < 1387388638 154795 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you are the worst deleter person ever < 1387388641 458213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both bad < 1387388647 382879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should both not be in wisdom/ < 1387388665 795380 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but what about the third one you deleted. should it be. < 1387388670 632301 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1387388671 706452 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1387388704 87694 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also since when are you the final arbiter of what can be in wisdom < 1387388750 511834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1387388944 346030 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387389111 877539 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and there is a wardom on PHP. < 1387389404 9267 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387389406 295278 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387389406 768108 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pogozqnqbtwnqlci QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387389406 970938 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uauifryqeazkoygw QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387389407 177133 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387389407 379277 :rntz!~rntz@eos.sp.cs.cmu.edu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387389509 592198 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387389602 26404 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387389825 424944 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-207.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387390380 889080 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387390381 93876 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387390381 94009 :rntz!~rntz@eos.sp.cs.cmu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387390381 94081 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pogozqnqbtwnqlci JOIN :#esoteric < 1387390381 94150 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uauifryqeazkoygw JOIN :#esoteric < 1387390381 94219 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1387390989 533285 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I agree with shachaf the 3rd one was not wisdom. < 1387391032 595150 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: remind me what the third one was again so i don't have to reload the pdf < 1387391105 639418 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the one right after your one < 1387391136 768395 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: that one sucked. i'm talking about the one that was in there originally. i.e. yesterday. < 1387391148 565813 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387391150 491781 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1387391154 256457 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? php < 1387391155 844058 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :php? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1387391159 744485 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? PHP < 1387391161 595649 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1387391162 439633 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk? < 1387391165 408395 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387391233 502057 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like hyperTERRIBLE processor < 1387391293 356480 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387391304 439643 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a PHP entry? < 1387391307 448610 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: it's gone. shachaf deleted it. look it up in the PDF if you want to see it. < 1387391309 477252 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :it and the links < 1387391319 769998 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the wisdom one. right < 1387391343 473665 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“ \item[PHP] is preferred by 9 out of 10 idiots, and past elliott. Ask your GP today! $[$Website redacted$]$” < 1387391362 254223 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems pretty meh. < 1387391371 437123 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN R/BITCOIN http://imgur.com/h9TXUbY < 1387391444 974000 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: PHP is preferred by 9 out of 10 idiots, and past elliott. Ask your GP today! [Website redacted] < 1387391468 85385 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: too slow < 1387391492 951090 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ty < 1387391522 303131 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: by the way, do you have a github account? (asked with an evil grin :D) < 1387391547 615572 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yeah, github.com/sheganinans < 1387391551 503986 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yours? < 1387391558 621023 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387391603 516721 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i was trying to add was intended to be actual wisdom, not humor. based on an article: https://medium.com/on-coding/6a9748f2268c < 1387391607 549482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mean yet another PHP entry before the two that both of you added. < 1387391608 706585 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i just added some stuff really recently. just random snippets i thought were barely tolerable to release < 1387391642 211206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"PHP is preferred by 9 out of 10 idiots, and past elliott. Ask your GP today! [Website redacted]" < 1387391651 117289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we're better off without any of them. < 1387391656 94878 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: you should now be in the knowledge of my account, and the Source to the PDF. < 1387391680 132278 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why don't you just go through and delete everything you don't like, and send some rain to a few parades while you're at it < 1387391695 963070 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pbflist < 1387391697 526031 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :pbflist: shachaf Sgeo quintopia ion < 1387391726 147010 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387391726 348139 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do i have to wait for github's eventual consistency model for me to see it? < 1387391742 544693 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: or some other service? < 1387391780 766842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Huh? < 1387391783 552102 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i'm not seeing any new ones < 1387391812 918029 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i swear i saw one < 1387391840 58310 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ah, i sees you < 1387392288 263926 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-184-18.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387392494 806132 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387392879 480216 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-5.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387392927 307175 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387392946 816588 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387393083 550769 :muskrat_!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-119.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387393083 752585 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-5.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387393087 575070 :muskrat_!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-119.psoas.suomi.net NICK :muskrat < 1387393571 411521 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387393992 100386 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387394109 588864 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387394300 110515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1387394375 947571 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387394535 145231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : it seems like now would be a very good time to buy [...] <-- the ancient sign of a bubble close to bursting... < 1387394660 341896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: should I add in the # cömment to the `addquote you made 6 hours ago? <-- not unless you add all my previous quotes/wisdom-affecting sed commands hth < 1387394824 597613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh bitcoin is crashing again? < 1387395065 664712 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they put a suicide hotline in r/bitcoin < 1387395094 712170 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387395095 651358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i allowed to laugh < 1387395117 477265 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you acknowledge that anyone actually killing themselves would be horrible < 1387395123 490064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1387395220 272852 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a temporary ban on "memes, price posts, and emotional posts" which is clear for mockery < 1387395276 164446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the first time this has happened < 1387395299 571397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm no suicide prevention expert but "it's just money" seems like a shitty and privileged thing to say, in general < 1387395338 557863 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but on the other hand most people on r/bitcoin are themselves shitty and privileged < 1387395354 291085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have this hunch that the idea of bitcoin working is based on the same kind of economy that didn't foresee the still ongoing financial crisis. < 1387395355 311557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe so < 1387395362 60002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*economic theory < 1387395368 761601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you elaborate? < 1387395391 658580 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, if i had any influence on rbitcoin i'd try to come up with something better to say, fo sho < 1387395407 512856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hunches don't have elaborations. < 1387395412 745566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: okay < 1387395415 212395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a little. < 1387395418 724880 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OKAY. < 1387395419 599518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about elaborate hunches < 1387395423 517148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also yes that < 1387395431 775943 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hunched-over elaborations < 1387395474 289796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :first of all, the only intrinsic stabilization of bitcoin's value is on the supply side. which is better than having none at all i guess. < 1387395509 558884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it only guarantees a _maximal_ value, not a minimum one... < 1387395565 981196 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387395568 280007 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you worth any bitcoin? < 1387395568 486315 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: perhaps that's irrational. " snow crash", " helping others", " < 1387395604 538891 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harken to the Bot! Follow the Path of Crashing Snowy Bitcoins, and Helping Others! < 1387395621 527799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything else is based on trust ... and without a supporting institution like a government, or a strong moral code that everyone follows, trust cannot survive in bad times. < 1387395644 430700 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see fungot is a libertarian < 1387395644 652367 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if you make significant changes. < 1387395645 958844 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "helping others" < 1387395690 682692 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: “I don't see any problem with that.” < 1387395730 946007 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2013/msg00235.html fuck yeaaaaaah < 1387395897 291555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm reading the paper now http://www.tau.ac.il/~tromer/papers/acoustic-20131218.pdf < 1387395909 594244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm such side channel attacks essentially mean that encryption code _must_ be branch free, no? < 1387395919 241572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless this is even subtler < 1387395934 222566 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when do branches break encryption? < 1387395939 651053 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387395968 840528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the problem is that it's really hard to do public-key operations efficiently without data-dependent control flow or memory access < 1387396016 715753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: by having the cpu do different things internally depending on what the data is, which can have measurable effects such as timing or this sound thing... < 1387396019 206243 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think the basic idea is that the attacker can use side channel information like sound to determine which branch sme code is on < 1387396032 29608 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, oerjan said it forwards and i said it backwards < 1387396038 668648 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some day you will meet? < 1387396039 991304 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1) the bubble has burst/is bursting, hence my statement and 2) i see no reason why it won't rebound < 1387396042 551700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't actually read the paper but is assuming that's how such a thing would work
< 1387396080 121586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh well < 1387396237 488382 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, Bike: so, you can guess what's happening, but you can't perfectly reconstruct the original data, righ? < 1387396252 760193 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, Bike: and meeting IRL is always a Good Thing®. < 1387396282 382730 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION meets boily IRL in a crowded bus dressed as a hobo
< 1387396282 972892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, but if you can do chosen plaintext attacks, you can add more and more information until you have the key... < 1387396354 891407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I remember the '04 presentation that paper mentions. < 1387396359 385569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, this attack involves sending many PGP-encrypted emails which are crafted to reveal bits of the private key through the side channel < 1387396373 251007 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "p. great" they've extended it to do actual key extraction. < 1387396392 269882 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As in, remember reading about it, not attending it.) < 1387396408 767998 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you're >1900 km away by car. we need to find a simpler way to irlmeet. and why would you want to dress crowded buses as hoboes? < 1387396422 79880 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oic. tdh. < 1387396438 61013 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the bus isn't dressed as a hobo. it's just dangling a modifier < 1387396463 398179 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and there is no simpler way for me to stalk you sorry < 1387396962 310126 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtu.be/9pzm1lQX0qU < 1387396980 345385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I like how it has Genesis 27:5 in the references. :) < 1387397005 893047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's what that cite was :) < 1387397016 692169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Audio eavesdropping on human conversations is a common practice, first published several millenia ago [Gen]." < 1387397018 305170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no author listed though < 1387397045 676397 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gen? < 1387397049 27575 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: eh? < 1387397057 160938 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, Genesis. < 1387397060 891716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[Gen 27:5 KJV] 5 And Rebekah heard when Isaac spake to Esau his son. And Esau went to the field to hunt [for] venison, [and] to bring [it]." < 1387397070 920606 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: An Andy Warhol homage. < 1387397075 455886 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey, i remember that. < 1387397080 756637 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esau was kind of a motherfucker, iirc < 1387397087 760474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't they all < 1387398021 441232 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387398329 276488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I see a flamewar about the wisdom system in my backscroll highlighting me three times? < 1387398407 265768 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, as you already know, php < 1387398448 766872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep '?' bin/* < 1387398451 253748 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/?: else echo "$1? ¯\(°​_o)/¯"; exit 1; \ bin/¿:? "$@" | rev | tac \ bin/؟:? "$@" | rev \ bin/anonlog: grep -P -i -- "$1" ????-??-??.txt | shuf -n 1| sed "s=<[^>]*> ==" \ bin/anonlog: file=$(shuf -en 1 ????-??-??.txt) \ bin/aseen:done < <(ls -r /var/irclogs/_esoteric/????-??-??.txt) \ bin/bienvenido:if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$ < 1387398458 808934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh < 1387398461 964425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep '?' bin/* | paste < 1387398464 193350 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god < 1387398468 91114 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.31992 < 1387398497 889236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if it were not for the other-language welcomes I would just remove the thing < 1387398612 928361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :remove what < 1387398631 457915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wisdom database < 1387398647 793757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fiend! < 1387398654 132535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1387398659 993572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? php < 1387398662 7259 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP is Worse Is Better with strong lock-in effects for the web ecosystem. < 1387398664 37101 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wants t destroy all we hold dear < 1387398687 19361 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :destroying america's morals < 1387398687 858137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but your pinging was due to a wisdom entry that already _had_ been removed! < 1387398696 686105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so removing it won't help QED < 1387398740 651857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/php < 1387398743 778502 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387398746 183217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1387398746 394227 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1387399091 12905 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shoos elliott away from the Precious Wisdom DB
< 1387399110 466460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't tempt me to increase the drasticity of my measures. < 1387399133 242945 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a mapole, and I know how to use it. the Wisdom will Stand! < 1387399183 684847 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :q: what is a mapole < 1387399185 898344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"now I have removed the entire channel" < 1387399199 130305 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1387399200 959083 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. < 1387399206 20058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1387399211 591859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I still need this to number my irssi windows right. < 1387399234 535606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's why I /part without closing the window. < 1387399279 371219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/set autoclose_windows off < 1387399385 787845 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-119.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387399524 969003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoin crash is front page on news.bbc.co.uk < 1387399616 168730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it really a full crash? isn't BTC much higher than before still? < 1387399735 856225 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when before? < 1387399788 783069 :microt!~caustic@c-67-169-99-96.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387399794 958583 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387399799 950273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :before it started rising recently < 1387399806 267191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was at $200 or something? < 1387399812 717689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe $100 < 1387399838 497652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really have a precise opinion on what the word "crash" means < 1387399897 125597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess like 5x increase in value from before it went crazy (ok, it's always crazy) seems like still a pretty big rise even if it went crazier in the interim to me < 1387399965 675607 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD < 1387400072 460735 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a normal currency a 50% drop in value within two weeks would be a crash ... < 1387400098 627587 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow I don't feel that way about bitcoins. < 1387400116 336248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I don't think "crash" implies that all value since time immemorial is wiped out < 1387400173 952038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: obviously, people expect BTC to be much more volatile than most things people call currencies :) < 1387400180 70007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a sudden and significant drop in value < 1387400203 295819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, mtgox might not be the best charts to look at given their issues unless that got resolved, they hover consistently above other exchanges because of them < 1387400578 217576 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/alexwinter/deep-web-the-untold-story-of-bitcoin-and-the-silk well, ok. < 1387400711 203614 :S1!~S1_chatzi@pD9FCA5BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387400819 501463 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn33-215.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387400857 677231 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "crimbo" really a UK slang term for "christmas" < 1387400875 273698 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether anybody is crazy enough to trade futures for bitcoins. < 1387400900 855 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck future < 1387400900 566794 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :future definition: that is to be; '''specifically'''. < 1387400907 420067 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck crimbo < 1387400907 835099 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1387400936 179363 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A lot of what's going on out there is scary stuff!" ... boring. < 1387400947 852804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes < 1387401051 884189 :evalj!~jeval@dsl51B63C5B.pool.t-online.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387401058 603272 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An unexpected exception has occurred. Please contact our Help Desk and include any errors reported on this page. java.lang.NullPointerException" this is a web application. < 1387401061 751610 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "deep web" is not even their own phrase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Web < 1387401067 183288 :S1!~S1_chatzi@pD9FCA5BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PART :#esoteric < 1387401070 118502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of people write webapps in Java < 1387401102 565801 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i'm just kind of surprised it gave me a backtrce, i suppose. < 1387401174 150150 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like NPEs. they offer a great occasion to be zen, drink a cuppa, and reflect on the Purpose of Life. < 1387401270 864913 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : /me reads the wikipédia article on futures contracts. < 1387401274 503205 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads the wikipédia article on futures contracts.
< 1387401276 457562 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :says I. < 1387401290 391382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bóilý < 1387401308 738448 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ķḿĉ. < 1387401361 568452 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am disgusted by the possibility and formalisation of selling intangible financial assets. < 1387401431 256637 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is just miiiiildly annoying since i could get money frm this form < 1387401437 322790 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hey if you sign the contract and you loose money, its your fault. doesnt matter what is being sold. < 1387401443 898674 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: then uh, don't take too close a look at anything remotely moneoy-related < 1387401474 291056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't money itself an "intangible financial asset" < 1387401477 377744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and what exactly is a dollar? < 1387401483 122428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't some gold any more < 1387401488 411706 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: that I have no problem with. it's just the sleazyness of all that stuff. < 1387401494 786513 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: futures contracts are not exactly money printing machines. < 1387401510 468105 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: lol, the federal reserve is a million times sleazier < 1387401513 642876 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't understand finance. I am terrified by anything more complex than a simple savings account. < 1387401518 901748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly many sleazy things have been done with derivatives, yeah, but rejecting the whole concept outright? < 1387401521 896148 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I meant, intangibler. < 1387401526 764345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you also consider insurance to be inherently sleazy? < 1387401530 583907 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: something I have in my pocket. < 1387401542 760526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :futures and options aren't just for speculators, they're purchesd by large "productive" companies as insurance < 1387401553 47178 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking christ this isn't even my fault < 1387401554 550678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mcdonalds buys potato futures so that they're less exposed to fluctuations in price < 1387401560 616995 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes, but I have a dental plan, so I make an exception for that. < 1387401563 883955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what about in your bank account? < 1387401568 711898 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my face is bleeding. god < 1387401572 859872 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: exactly < 1387401602 58574 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY AM I SO PUT UPON, O GOD IN HEAVEN < 1387401616 91002 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387401620 276096 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: those are dollars in somebody else pocket. there are pocketeers out there who hold everybody's money, as there are plumbers, teachers, managers... < 1387401623 515927 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wat? < 1387401644 599157 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oops < 1387401648 325520 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wat? < 1387401659 825530 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wat? < 1387401679 878997 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how many millilitres of blood per hour are you loosing? < 1387401681 969543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you will probably be disappointed if you ask your bank to show the vault in which the physical coins for your bank account balance are stored < 1387401686 363740 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: which wat? < 1387401689 362670 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are we all loosing < 1387401695 88464 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: look, i feel you have been fed a story about futures without actually understanding the math behind it. you even admitted yourself < 1387401700 264252 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the uck is a litre < 1387401701 501616 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know. I prefer my fiction. it's more fun :D < 1387401708 805673 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use liters you damn furriner < 1387401729 159258 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: I skimmed the wikipédia article, so I really don't understand what's happening. proper documentation is in order. < 1387401733 94031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :never let the facts get in the way of a good pitchfork mob < 1387401746 220768 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: at first i was saying wat to Bike, but accidentally said you, then i read your statement after his and said wat, but this time to yo < 1387401761 77705 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ikr? < 1387401768 367541 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: furriner? < 1387401769 281696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you pay some amount now and you get some quantity of a good n months in the future < 1387401777 818265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pretty straightforward < 1387401786 265546 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh. if that's the case, no problem with that. < 1387401800 733799 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: lol, i cant speel todai < 1387401801 93156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can sell that contract in the meantime, in which case whoever buys it gets the good < 1387401826 412786 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so you can make a profit by selling the contract? < 1387401837 946040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are good at it, yes < 1387401845 60709 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: kmc said it very well, there is no "evil NWO magic" to it < 1387401860 134342 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: I am disappoint. < 1387401869 425082 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fascinating. < 1387401892 597893 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: not to say that there have been plenty of conspiracies, look at watergate, the gulf of tonkin, and operation notrhwoods :P < 1387401897 792791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also take a loss of course < 1387401903 139132 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :precisely < 1387401922 895416 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: thats what i meant by saying they arent money printing machines, unlike the federal reserve < 1387401935 906183 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seeeeeeeee... < 1387401958 131757 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even literally printing money has its purposes. < 1387401975 508632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the thing is that nobody knows exactly what the price of buying potatoes "on the spot" will be in 6 months, so the market price of a futures contract will vary as estimates of that future price change < 1387401980 995509 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://i.imgur.com/PtXdfsj.png (frontpaging on reddit) < 1387401988 287026 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8v5tskgKu1rpj06qo1_1280.jpg i'm very rady for this < 1387402008 564617 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, its called counterfeit or some people even shave coins < 1387402021 244788 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there's an Underworld music video like that but filmed from a train. it rules < 1387402035 384820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hereby ban libertarianism. < 1387402036 999761 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is a futures contract public? if so, wouldn't that change what the future price of the asset will be? < 1387402037 200039 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, except it's flipped instead of water, probably, but it makes it look like water < 1387402041 878271 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that is actually why coins these days have those lines running around their edges, it makes it really easy to see if a coin has been shaved < 1387402047 895601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: they are often publicly traded yes < 1387402048 761649 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wanna. < 1387402049 894630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hm that looks like it might be from trondheim? < 1387402056 841599 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that is indeed the case. < 1387402060 613723 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanna what < 1387402093 517731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the video. < 1387402101 554740 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387402140 379781 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: most establishments don't think to reject a coin that's missing those lines, though, if it looks worn < 1387402162 297097 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :banks might, but not many other places where the money-handlers are typically teenagers < 1387402162 937917 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: anyway why would it affect the spot price? < 1387402166 962950 :evalj!~jeval@dsl51B63C5B.pool.t-online.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387402171 696182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm is there a way to see the normal reddit frontpage without logging out < 1387402173 119005 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: lol, sure. that and its really not all that profitable to do. unless they are gold coins. < 1387402193 304638 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it won't, but then you can influence the market so that you can make someone else gain or lose money. < 1387402193 528452 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: in which case, many teenagers won't believe they're legal tender < 1387402198 802366 :evalj!~jeval@dsl51B63C5B.pool.t-online.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387402206 344993 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: (unless I'm completely mistaken.) < 1387402228 358069 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://www.reddit.com/r/all/ < 1387402230 202940 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: XD < 1387402258 38957 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how can you make someone else gain or lose money if you all have access to the same information and can take the same actions? < 1387402264 471535 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, most counterfeiting can be gotten away with if you avoid exchanging it with someone that could possibly think to check it < 1387402265 298074 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387402267 746109 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: well, they technechally arent "legal" anymore, but anyone who know barely anything will accept them < 1387402273 790552 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ah. point. < 1387402274 674197 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpCmYXwCHZY < 1387402279 689590 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387402282 58064 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: > teenagers < 1387402282 261862 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1387402288 174020 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thike. < 1387402304 718852 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful burnnnnnout~ < 1387402312 258414 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: lol, saw a video of a guy trying to sell a 1Oz gold coing for $50. the man was even in front of a cash4gold place. < 1387402318 360958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: in practice people do come up with all kinds of market manipulation schemes, in all kinds of markets, some of which are illegal < 1387402320 535707 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, my mistake about the source < 1387402320 723663 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you can still be lucky. but usually one of those assumptions turns out to be false < 1387402322 354537 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :high traffic hours in grocery stores checkout lines are the best times and places to use an almost-legit bill, since a hurried kid isn't likely to check your paper < 1387402350 182558 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: lol, yeah. but it has to feel right to be enough to pass. cotton and all. < 1387402352 549627 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_maker < 1387402361 393628 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: most fascinating. < 1387402367 927996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about market makers? what does that have to do with manipulation? < 1387402370 363369 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: right, but it isn't difficult to repurpose a lower-value bill < 1387402377 479816 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there, another one I like → http://vimeo.com/68546202 < 1387402394 170220 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's from some kind of short film called Shinkansen and oh i see you're perfectly capable of reading video descriptions. < 1387402399 53300 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: you are completely right. < 1387402414 589989 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's just an example of an asymmetry. market makers have more options than normal traders. (and more obligations) < 1387402424 550885 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: let's build a printing press < 1387402427 237976 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: oh man, this brings back memories of places like totse.. < 1387402452 663936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh, you are using the term "market maker" to describe the regulatory status of registered broker-dealers and such, rather than just the trading strategy of market making < 1387402455 676172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1387402466 46520 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: never done it myself, but its amazing how much of this info is available freely on the internet < 1387402477 746392 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you're the easiest to blame^H^H^H^H^Hstart that sort of thing with < 1387402519 793726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you are allowed to pursue a market-making strategy without any special status as a market participant < 1387402530 302932 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: I am Canadian. we'd have to print vinyl money. < 1387402538 98632 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387402547 38474 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go finish up xmas shopping. < 1387402549 676661 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Canadian coins are vinyl? < 1387402556 536928 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: banknotes. < 1387402561 28982 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they even have short tracks on them < 1387402568 731069 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never knew! < 1387402572 246687 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wishes that loonies were made of vinyl :D
< 1387402581 421310 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ha ha ha! < 1387402582 27706 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bits of "O Canada" and also Bjork songs < 1387402586 799704 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yup, and even some countries have embedded transparent parts. so its even more difficult to re-purpose lower valued bills < 1387402618 296859 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :our bills have transparent sections, with pictures of Her Majesty. < 1387402623 273015 :evalj!~jeval@dsl51B63C5B.pool.t-online.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387402627 486555 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: POULET DE NOËL! < 1387402629 154397 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not here in the states.. you have to take time to check identifying marks like metallic strips, watermarks, etc.. they aren't glaringly obvious like they should be < 1387402631 492120 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387402639 629235 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: right, that is exactly what i was getting at. i though canada had them as well < 1387402683 107157 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: well, soon enough it will be all bitcoins. lol < 1387402695 973671 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387402706 263628 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly analog currencies < 1387402714 995896 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387402920 232407 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387403009 145872 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: I refuse to accept any currency besides impromptu song & dance numbers < 1387403143 630051 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: hilarious TTG stories are also acceptable < 1387403268 635512 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: well there is this one story that this guy on irc, where he told me that he would only take payment in currency that was less fungable than most of the currency that i had to offer, so then I decided to make a horrible TTG imitation of a story < 1387403289 129449 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1387403293 388514 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hilarious" was clearly specified < 1387403309 171177 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn, i guess its to the guillotine with me.. < 1387403357 167475 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: TTG? < 1387403556 634872 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tabletop game < 1387403571 226356 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ty < 1387404283 136870 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fungible currency is one that can go up in smoke? *wonders* < 1387404313 923404 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: advice on fungibility < 1387404314 234265 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i'm sooooooooo close to a bus. neths 1.8.03 also adds fluffy bunnies for remote users. < 1387404328 731890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if that's a pun he doesn't get
< 1387404358 128380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungible just means the units are interchangeable... one dollar is as good as another < 1387404457 701033 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it has nothing to do with mushrooms. boring. < 1387404473 518208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know of any smokable mushrooms < 1387404488 373125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how unambitious < 1387404490 137284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_ might < 1387404499 878721 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mushrooms are not smokable? < 1387404532 563554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you can try < 1387404537 878221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think anything good will happen < 1387404539 718182 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you're attacking the wrong end of the association chain < 1387404569 198004 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. kmc is. < 1387404612 173752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the meat club at my school had an event advertised as "smoke anything up to the size of a small turkey" < 1387404637 572477 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the funny thing supposed to be the implication of #drugz or the fact that there was a club for meat < 1387404639 818093 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quoth the Internet, "You can also smoke dried mushrooms. It's a bit milder than eating them or making tea, but you need to use more mushrooms." < 1387404717 720108 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: psilocybin-containing mushrooms? < 1387404733 698417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange < 1387404746 619496 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. when you smoke something psychoactive is it an aerosol or what < 1387404787 74138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats me < 1387404796 99148 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, or vapors < 1387404815 902234 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all my knowledge here is from chemical weapons, so uh < 1387404862 36444 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sarin isn't a gas at human-livable temperatures and pressures. it's aerosolized in weapon form (unless you're aum shinrikyo) < 1387404953 119564 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 'sarin gas' is rather a misnomer. just a fact to keep in mind for parties. < 1387404975 80564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did aum do < 1387404991 644225 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen claims that you can smoke the top layer of an Amanita muscaria cap and it will be psychoactive. < 1387405003 822140 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they made plastic bags filled with sarin (liquid) and then jabbed them < 1387405059 611650 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But people mostly agree that smoking psilocybin-containing mushrooms will just make you cough. < 1387405217 7356 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should ask the #drugz people at school if i can make a can of THC like a can of spray paint, i'm sure they'll be thrilled < 1387405359 883391 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think I've heard about spray cannabis before somewhere < 1387405368 159459 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have no idea whatsoever about whatever the fuck other chemicals are in various Gymnopilus species. < 1387405409 738745 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387405469 698822 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amanita muscaria doesn't have psylocybin, and I know it does get used as a hallucinogen. I don't know about smoking it thugh < 1387405476 7600 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also if I wanted to try A. muscaria, I'd cook it, not smoke it. Ibotenic acid is a flavor enhancer (like MSG) and lots of people say A. muscaria is one of the most delicious wild mushrooms there is. < 1387405511 77169 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mushrooms that have psylocybin in them taste rather horrible < 1387405519 526871 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am aware of this. < 1387405546 263575 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could probably feed A. muscaria to a reindeer and drink the piss < 1387405602 2296 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? I was under the impression that cooking did most of the same desired conversion to muscimol and with much tastier results. < 1387405612 768488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1387405616 815659 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, reindeer are not a common backyard pet in my area. < 1387405647 583038 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1387405648 247790 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/12/18/2122226/scientists-extract-rsa-key-from-gnupg-using-sound-of-cpu?utm_source=butt&utm_medium=butt < 1387405655 911750 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know what kind of computers the Luna probes used? < 1387405768 702757 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :christ, nasa's page doesn't even specify what agency they were under < 1387405789 389375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: they don't always < 1387405793 650972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :taste horrible I mean < 1387406046 31361 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, varies by species + personal taste. some people even think Gymnopilus species are tasty (which may be due to variance in bitterness receptors. Many mushrooms in the genus Gymnopilus contain psilocybin but also some other stuff.) < 1387406186 108156 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Gymnopiluses are usually described as intensely bitter, which was my opinion of the non-psilocybin-containing G. ventricosus that I found and made dye from. It smelled pretty good though.) < 1387406227 197470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had some P. galindoi sclerotia and they tasted... not like food, but definitely not "horrible" < 1387406269 709815 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taxonomy note: P. galindoi is now declared synonymous with P. mexicana. < 1387406308 411275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of like eating wax with a slight, unusual "crisp" taste reminiscent of mineral water or that time I ate some raw saffron < 1387406313 106820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to describe < 1387406321 601029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_: ah < 1387406331 973389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you synonymous with P. mexicana < 1387406332 198968 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: let's do it from the server < 1387406351 889324 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you edible? < 1387406352 119058 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: all things has a price?) < 1387406355 111416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1387406393 335933 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387406444 62465 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though who the fuck knows which species those really were anyway) < 1387406490 649283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Also, reindeer are not a common backyard pet in my area. <--- yet another reason to move to finland < 1387406529 318830 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1387406548 206371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all we have here are cats, snails, and hippies < 1387406581 607594 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387406657 802541 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387406665 567287 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have hippies in the back yard? < 1387406690 896321 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have themselves < 1387406694 985752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also neighbors < 1387406735 188218 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :roe deer may be hunted from the start of may to middle of june, because they're less radioactive in the summer < 1387406824 747790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kch.zf.jcu.cz/vyzkum/publikace/separaty/Mushroom%20radioactivity%202012.pdf < 1387406853 163032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this agrees with you, say they are radioactive in the fall mushroom season < 1387406887 692620 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is fungus in Chernobyl that uses radioactivity as a source of energy < 1387407077 195273 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A History of APL in the USSR", yeah i'm fucked < 1387407125 687390 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool how there's like no central repository of ISBN publisher identifiers < 1387407158 719473 :Taneb_!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io JOIN :#esoteric < 1387407168 808609 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387407180 638725 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, nevermind, it exists, as a printed book < 1387407181 746316 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckers < 1387407184 466178 :Taneb_!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io NICK :Taneb < 1387407226 709494 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the ebook only costs fifteen hundred euros! < 1387407365 788909 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387407405 80103 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=130647.130656 < 1387407426 677000 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387407433 399729 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387407480 45685 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i was actually looking for was a russian-language book that doesn't exist anywhere on the english-language web, apparently < 1387407532 185990 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh, so not the same? < 1387407855 85294 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1387408129 381297 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387408168 769693 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387409260 125691 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387409865 134066 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387410499 755569 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387410565 744713 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387410738 278868 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1387411064 419617 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387411219 301885 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«so many different US intelligence agents were conducting operations inside games that a "deconfliction" group was required to ensure they weren't spying on, or interfering with, each other» < 1387411260 714042 :microt!~caustic@c-67-169-99-96.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387412960 483785 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: help me understand the reflection package < 1387413172 797429 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i told you man, i'm retired. no more black ops stuff < 1387413197 603544 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one last big score < 1387413250 682540 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2013/12/13/legal-threats-backfire/ if y'all aren't following retractin watch you've made a mistake < 1387413985 765961 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387414309 411238 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387414534 454122 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387414954 61592 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :Frostitute < 1387414962 867762 :Frostitute!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387415050 754406 :microt!~caustic@c-67-169-99-96.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387416094 529084 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what fraction of the top 10 posters in #haskell do i put on /ignore before i decide that i'm done with that channel < 1387416201 595196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say 10% should do it < 1387416302 19716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that i was already done with it < 1387416303 418037 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387416304 798025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i went back i guess < 1387416307 966192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you actually leave tho < 1387416309 101757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387416312 926481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo do that < 1387416321 359362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let it all burn < 1387416362 662994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, klrr got unbanned? < 1387416376 351138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1387416378 804183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess persistence works in the end. < 1387416427 455119 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387416450 368200 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did klrr do < 1387416468 311621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://slbkbs.org/klrr.txt and various such things < 1387416514 480303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought everyone had basically agreed to ignore him for a few months, what happened to get him unbanned? < 1387416531 777054 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably all just a misunderstanding < 1387416551 7689 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a winner < 1387416628 257024 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gasp* < 1387416634 166947 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck's been removed from Homebrew < 1387416636 858476 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/issues/24746 < 1387416644 800244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he joined and asked, i think < 1387416705 742544 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway why is #haskell so bad < 1387416853 944561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's klrr < 1387416857 319064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1387417016 898983 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387418173 878740 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm trying to think what the best esoteric programming language is. < 1387418190 769529 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not merely the best existing one, but the best possible one. < 1387418192 597530 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your criteria < 1387418203 185869 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most ever Brainfuckiest Fuck you Brain fucker Fuck < 1387418215 421067 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my fav is unlambda < 1387418221 102411 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My criteria are something like "similar to Underload". < 1387418232 523424 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i think i know what's going to best fulfill those < 1387418238 860878 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Most ever Brainfuckiest Fuck you Brain fucker Fuck. < 1387418265 91863 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've gotta say, though, /// is a pretty great language. < 1387418275 438783 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not like underload at all. < 1387418283 419670 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arufonsu : in that case, the answer is "underload" < 1387418293 108274 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's the most similar to underload :D < 1387418313 768746 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you have a point, here. < 1387418316 838529 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: you also have a point, here. < 1387418357 687511 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did a couple attempts at something like underload before < 1387418383 644512 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like languages that use code as data. Indeed, languages where there's barely any distinction between code and data. < 1387418403 835754 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you consider enumerating the turing machine's < 1387418417 96106 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arufonsu: My attempt at that: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Univar < 1387418487 987319 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also like languages where the interpreter loop consists of removing the first instruction from the code and executing it, presumably modifying the rest of the code. < 1387418607 596013 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arufonsu : My other attempt (unimplemented): http://esolangs.org/wiki/Object_disoriented < 1387418616 876450 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like languages that involve symbol manipulation only. < 1387418717 152031 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, so far, the languages I like are... Underload and ///? I think Smurf is also pretty good. < 1387418721 564895 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arufonsu : you should probably look at look at http://esolangs.org/wiki/0x29A < 1387418760 878593 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: so when this says "full, deep copy", that means the object is copied, as well as every object it references, every object each of those objects references, and so on? < 1387418791 968450 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means the language doesn't have references :D < 1387418841 604948 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except p < 1387418846 354996 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a reference < 1387418850 667646 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. That makes it easy. < 1387418910 365910 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the thing about /// is that it's a bit too far removed from anything resembling a practical programming language. < 1387418925 912560 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is a self-crediting way of saying "I have no idea how to write programs in ///".) < 1387418939 118245 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arufonsu: research markov algorithms. < 1387418944 318213 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only then will you become awesome. < 1387418960 631405 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Object disoriented is mainly intended as a parody of object oriented languages < 1387418963 676218 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it helps to understand rewrite systems. < 1387418978 398027 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: Markov algorithms look like Thue. < 1387419002 706699 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cuz markov algorithms are the trademark rewrite system. < 1387419009 225390 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also trying to figure out the smallest possible object oriented language without making just a functionnal language in disguise... but I think it sorta failed at that < 1387419055 829701 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda calc is pretty object oriented right? < 1387419087 69471 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc typed lambda calc is. < 1387419096 529290 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, lessee. My platonic ideal programming language is in the "remove and execute on remainder" paradigm. < 1387419105 853571 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I'd consider lambda calculus to be object-oriented at all. < 1387419119 402078 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't. < 1387419155 848340 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the typed lambda calc is as I recall, at least it exhibits something like it (though as I'm sure the name tells, it's equivalent to haskell's type system) < 1387419156 933267 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Encapsulation is a pretty critical feature of OO languages, right? I guess Haskell lets you encapsulate stuff pretty well. < 1387419206 8174 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :closures aren't really meaningful in haskell are they? < 1387419232 191074 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean you can't modify a variable, so it doesn't seem to make much difference < 1387419238 49358 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always been a proponent of just straight up symbol manipulation. nothing says "raw" than manipulating atomic symbols. < 1387419265 801886 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Closures are totally transparent. There's no observable difference between a closure and an ordinary function. < 1387419276 299091 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387419283 409730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Does lens even export anything that'll let you turn Prism s t a b into s -> Either t a? < 1387419302 286241 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in the PIPL, symbols shouldn't just be symbols; they should be functions. < 1387419313 2188 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, functions taking a program and yielding a program. Or... uh... < 1387419354 93508 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on, let me try to figure out whether or not the idea of a statically typed "remove and execute on remainder" language makes any sense at all. < 1387419424 618256 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387419474 650703 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. I want this to be a catenative language, but catenativity and RAEOR seem to be pretty much mutually exclusive. < 1387419534 285671 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, if you do some sort of continuation fuckery... < 1387419547 437378 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I built a concatenative OOP language once. < 1387419550 370499 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was horrible. < 1387419555 369126 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I burnt the script. < 1387419564 98353 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just so nobody would ever use it. < 1387419599 712292 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did manage to write a repl in it though < 1387419647 942741 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/PvcJ9W5j < 1387419814 164967 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps what I'm after is a language where programs can't just be written in their final form; they have to constantly construct themselves. But they should do so in a particularly elegant manner. < 1387419834 275076 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1387419865 859658 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo. < 1387419868 826050 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a classic way to do that is to not have looping constructs < 1387419880 10886 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the only way to loop is to generate more program data < 1387419883 180290 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way I'd do it is combine.. < 1387419895 828810 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rewrite system with a brainfuck-like set of language constructs. < 1387419913 346668 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, thue with brainfuck essentially. < 1387419925 116153 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/// is pretty much the pinnacle of some sort of ideal. < 1387419930 820110 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure which one. < 1387419950 43242 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a part of the rewrite paradigm.. < 1387419972 289877 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't find info on /// < 1387419977 445914 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't seem to be on esolang < 1387419981 630495 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@g esolang /// < 1387419981 819224 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: gazetteer get-shapr get-topic ghc girl19 google googleit gsite gwiki v @ ? . < 1387419982 79491 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: http://esolangs.org/wiki//// < 1387419986 118520 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'tis on there. < 1387419987 692873 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1387419994 398249 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, question: does slashes need the backslash < 1387420013 768205 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Without it, there's exactly one instruction, which hangs. < 1387420017 809401 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, ///. < 1387420041 414546 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking you could have another character that meant what \/ does, but then i suppose you'd want to refer to that too < 1387420146 277552 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In theory, a /// programming environment could be really nice. Like, you'd do the same thing that Smalltalk does, where you pretty much just have one single self-modifying program that you use for all of your programming. < 1387420156 437187 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it'd be nice because you could define new syntax constantly. < 1387420170 254698 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In practice, no. < 1387420209 222177 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll admit I haven't researched on /// but you're in a good paradigm, Arufonsu < 1387420292 869362 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, here's an idea. So, a program is a series of instructions. The instructions are SEEK(n), MARK, COPY, DELETE, and PASTE. < 1387420352 2547 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your main memory is, of course, the remainder of the program. In addition to that, you have two cursors: the primary cursor and the mark cursor. You also have a clipboard. < 1387420409 41906 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEEK moves the primary cursor. MARK moves the mark cursor to the primary cursor. COPY replaces the contents of the clipboard with the instructions between the primary cursor and the mark cursor. DELETE deletes everything between the primary cursor and the mark cursor. PASTE inserts the contents of the clipboard before the primary cursor. < 1387420645 15598 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what're your actual commands of the language. < 1387420649 366378 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the language has to do something right? < 1387420661 521236 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Those are the commands. < 1387420661 758285 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are them, i assume < 1387420671 600301 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program manipulates itself. < 1387420672 165064 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :..SEEK, MARK, COPY, DELETE and PASTE? < 1387420681 162216 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1387420703 748160 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this operates on a set of symbols or something? < 1387420709 582466 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it operates on itself. < 1387420743 713741 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, alright. < 1387420766 198553 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :specify some sort of loop construct for me then. < 1387420772 583363 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Working on it. < 1387420783 821837 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty easy to imagine a corewars-style gremlin < 1387420789 175769 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is. < 1387420809 443518 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since the only commands you specified involve manipulating the program.. < 1387420816 769709 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEEK(4) MARK SEEK(1) COPY PASTE < 1387420818 291879 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah? < 1387420823 529745 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1387420834 574488 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SEEK(4) MARK SEEK(1) COPY" copies "PASTE" to the clipboard, then "PASTE" pastes "PASTE" right after itself. < 1387420836 774751 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like brainfuck without i/o is worthless. < 1387420848 632078 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I never said that. < 1387420862 57744 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just can't see the automation behind what he specified. < 1387420904 455162 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless, I suppose, if you count a command as a sort of quanta. < 1387420910 287120 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seek being absolute seems limiting < 1387420916 16951 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah. < 1387420917 978219 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it relative. < 1387420919 876328 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :singular of "quanta" is "quantum" < 1387420925 186423 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never said it was absolute. < 1387420931 673453 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been thinking it was relative all along. < 1387420932 227368 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*quantum, excuse me. < 1387420933 529116 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::v < 1387420942 509796 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's late and I'm doing system work, sue me. :P < 1387420952 234812 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't expect it to be too hard to implement Bitwise Cyclic Tag using this stuff. < 1387420958 466009 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme see here. < 1387420959 856349 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it man! < 1387420965 309782 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the glory of science! < 1387421101 695562 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This doesn't actually seem possible. < 1387421106 826016 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible. < 1387421107 353364 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not obviously. < 1387421126 715553 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no way to "look at" code without running it. < 1387421136 497933 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :simulate it in notepad. < 1387421139 290120 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yu'll just have to make 1s and zeros different cde t run, i guess < 1387421140 699803 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :step through it. < 1387421153 417008 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it worked for underload" < 1387421157 824252 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha. < 1387421161 414427 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I guess you could make it so that 0 is one piece of code and 1 is a different piece of code. < 1387421178 774764 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1387421179 303185 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What pieces of code they are depends on what the program string is. < 1387421227 333684 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have an "alphabet" of symbols which correspond to operations at this point, and those operations only involve that alphabet. < 1387421238 896980 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I guess so. < 1387421251 21180 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :extend your operations to other symbols. < 1387421268 34673 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning, enable them to manipulate unreserved symbols. < 1387421299 612336 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :S, M, C, D, P. < 1387421321 690054 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seek can just be integers really < 1387421326 653483 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1387421336 27989 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387421354 68248 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you had a few more cursors, everything would suddenly become way better. < 1387421362 17654 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could replace it with Seek and SeekBack that move one at a time, and make Seek(17) a macro for SeekSeekSeekSeekSeekSeekSeekSeekSeekSeekSeekSeekSeekSeekSeekSeekSeek < 1387421375 261369 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha. < 1387421384 260890 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arufonsu: or two tapes. < 1387421390 576543 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a way to switch between them. < 1387421407 840816 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :T, for tape select, flipflops between the two. < 1387421410 37321 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, you already have three cursors: the instruction pointer, the main cursor, and the mark. < 1387421478 278920 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could say that SWAP exchanges the main cursor and the mark, and JUMP exchanges the main cursor and the instruction pointer. < 1387421523 469045 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOO! ROOTKITS REMOVED! < 1387421528 773123 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLS YEAH. < 1387421551 509986 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry, been battling nasty things for the past 3 hours.) < 1387421560 541561 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess now there's no great reason not to say you can't edit parts of the program that have already been executed. < 1387421573 152618 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arufonsu: pretty much. < 1387421579 143402 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :relative jumps can still extend backwards. < 1387421648 106880 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So here's a simple infinite loop: SEEK(3) SEEK(-2) JUMP < 1387421677 346828 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, where is the main cursor. < 1387421684 376907 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the point of JUMP. < 1387421762 968300 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mi)3 -2 J -> 3(i)-2 J(m) -> 3(m)-2(i)J -> 3(mi)-2 J -> ???? < 1387421791 999186 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha. < 1387421793 499330 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387421797 416805 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of what I was wondering. < 1387421842 52561 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you just do SEEK(1) JUMP < 1387421852 220952 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1387421860 262698 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mi)1 J -> 1(mi)J -> 1(mi)J -> etc < 1387421934 30441 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Excess Flood < 1387421942 957793 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1387421972 172578 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEEK(6) MARK SEEK(-6) COPY SEEK(6) PASTE is a gremlin, i think? < 1387421985 865032 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, i guess orientatin doesn't matter. < 1387422012 324266 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so MARK SEEK(4) COPY PASTE < 1387422045 908452 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first whatever stupid thing this is golfer, thatsa me < 1387422065 644202 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I didn't specify exactly how JUMP works. < 1387422079 713728 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you said /exchanges/ < 1387422080 889725 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The instruction pointer moves forward before the cursors are swapped. < 1387422123 300821 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the main cursor ends up immediately after the JUMP instruction. < 1387422154 197408 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PASTE command puts stuff before the main cursor, not after. < 1387422225 186905 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're effectively performing rewrite operations, only you're using an explicit system. < 1387422227 413630 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man's always puttin me down < 1387422255 316925 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a markov algorithm can simulate your language. < 1387422276 797719 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that'd be like, (cmi) M S4 C P -> (cm) M (i) S4 C P -> (m) M S4 (i) C P (c) -> (m) M S4 C (i) P (c) -> (m) M S4 C P (i) M S4 C P (c) -> M S4 C P M (i) S4 C P (cm) -> M S4 C P M S4 (i) C P (m) _ _ _ _ (c) < 1387422284 576426 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where (c) is the main cursor and (m) is the mark. < 1387422308 815444 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I already said Markov algorithms sound like wimpmode Thue? < 1387422316 43122 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, wimpmode. < 1387422323 262864 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are from the before time, son. < 1387422367 238714 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like your approach. < 1387422388 112325 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more TM like. < 1387422526 574103 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, this language sucks. < 1387422549 956628 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1387422551 779222 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's awesome. < 1387422556 798402 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw what you say I want more of it. < 1387422564 117422 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not the One True Language. < 1387422568 823146 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no language is. < 1387422610 447869 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every day is a good day when you paint.. with your mind. < 1387422657 767194 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION plays an ascending and descending whole tone scale.
< 1387422729 792642 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the beauty of creating an esolang is that you're just defining abstractions on top of simple symbols. lots of freedom involved around that. < 1387422740 661515 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make 'em do anything. < 1387422743 357026 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no idea is a bad one. < 1387422766 820827 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :implement whatever comes into your head. :P < 1387422870 682748 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still trying to figure out the One True Language here. < 1387422901 480700 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever seen a self-replicating brainfuck program? it's beautiful. < 1387422911 29969 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, a quine? < 1387422913 793567 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTF5z9YSs8w < 1387422920 216833 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :check that shit out. < 1387422922 819731 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's multithreaded too. < 1387422928 749482 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :via a forking method iirc. < 1387423188 37732 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387423210 926928 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like this requires me to have a glib.h. What's that from? < 1387423260 596779 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1387423263 286512 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :glib? < 1387423273 731464 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't know what glib is? :P < 1387423296 289275 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what glibc is! < 1387423304 956583 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no, this is the first I've learned what glib is. < 1387423317 133736 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about gsl, is that related to glib? < 1387423322 897833 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1387423355 428065 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :libgsl and libglib < 1387423362 777160 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :go grab 'em. < 1387423611 456590 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently I actually have seven versions of glib installed. < 1387423641 737923 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's terrifying. remedy that. < 1387423654 851515 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only one of them is "activated". < 1387423700 370147 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I assume "installed" means "present somewhere" and "activated" means "present in locations where applications will look for them". < 1387424732 674120 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387424822 901583 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387425055 512698 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right. So, question about replifuck... < 1387425061 435471 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I do stuff? < 1387425076 79117 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, all right, memory's been initialized. I can start the machine running, but there aren't any threads. < 1387425113 766879 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y to fork. < 1387425117 198769 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume. < 1387425164 173553 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I fork if there are no threads? < 1387425181 303439 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. Never ran it, man, don't ask me. < 1387425209 494057 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean... " Replisex " ? - French Frag Factory < 1387425214 335671 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :common typos for Replisex : Replsiex, Reolisex, Rellisex, Reppisex, Repmisex, Repkisex, Replosex, Replusex, Replksex, Replieex, Repliaex, Replidex, ... < 1387425243 316167 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :replidex. < 1387425343 375722 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there are supposed to be threads, and there just aren't. < 1387425375 214654 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you run a brainfuck program? < 1387425395 139459 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, I guess. < 1387425426 711033 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooo just run one that has a Y in it. it'll fork it. :D < 1387425427 410684 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here we go. If I load up a program, then there are threads. < 1387425438 271030 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yyyeah < 1387425468 827176 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus will this scan finish up already, I have work in 4 hours. < 1387425487 920524 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang, Terminal.app doesn't work with my vim configuration at all. < 1387425525 167116 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I load up vim, the entire terminal flashes at about a hertz. < 1387425652 652861 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You sure you don't have "while true; do echo ^G; sleep 1; done" in there? < 1387425664 805768 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure. < 1387425687 151131 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably has something to do with mouse reporting or 8-bit color. < 1387425710 776883 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terminal.app supports 256color these days, but not mouse reporting. < 1387425762 805111 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if that'll earn you beeps, though. Usually it's the other way 'round, with the receiving program not supporting mouse commands even though the terminal does. < 1387425770 409246 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to sleep(86400000). < 1387425861 726907 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387426225 499265 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess the nice thing about this is that I can just edit the source code. < 1387426348 363471 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm out. peace. < 1387426353 233021 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See you. < 1387426370 843483 :microt!~caustic@c-67-169-99-96.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387426575 805286 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. replifuck is currently using 1.5 gigabytes of memory. < 1387426578 188696 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems excessive. < 1387426647 24247 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387426819 362669 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It had run for about 30,000 cycles, and there were 6,000 threads. So maybe each cycle leaked 50 kilobytes of memory, or maybe each thread was using 250 kilobytes of memory. < 1387427141 307981 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. I took a core sample of the process, and this seems to indicate it spends roughly 99.9% of its time looking for matching parentheses. < 1387427182 114172 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The process was sampled 2,646 times, and of those 2,646 samples, 2,646 of them were in rf_find_matching_parentheses. < 1387427208 169446 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is replifuck < 1387427232 747149 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTF5z9YSs8w https://github.com/jgraef/replifuck < 1387427578 50639 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's one of those shared-tape evolving competing programs things < 1387427652 650128 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1387427667 377081 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-184-18.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387427672 911056 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, it looks like it was actually just that one single run that was spending 99.9% of its time looking for matching parentheses. < 1387427685 687497 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've taken more samples of different runs, and these show that more interesting stuff is happening. < 1387427731 858571 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oddly enough, it's spending about 2/3 of its time executing cycles, and 1/3 of its time deleting threads. < 1387427793 17024 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A majority of the time it spends executing cycles, it spends mutating randomly. < 1387427800 326959 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And most of that time is spent generating random numbers. < 1387427818 601538 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1387428325 571523 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna program in a limit to the possible jump distance. < 1387428362 327926 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I'm confused about is how the program apparently only searches for matching brackets in one direction. < 1387428396 518671 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the ] command uses the stack to return to its [ command. < 1387428525 791406 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably gonna ping out soon. Night, everyone. < 1387428740 984112 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387429367 362278 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387429403 4763 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387429656 7954 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387429741 50440 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387430115 826142 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-119.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387430549 6619 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«@johnregehr: trying to generate code that makes G++ print lots of warnings; currently have a 300 KB file (after CPP) that gives ~800 MB of warnings» < 1387430574 957940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean he posted it or someone was addressing him < 1387430608 522178 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the ambiguity < 1387430656 512933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blitter < 1387430688 639147 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :posted it. < 1387431029 835104 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-119.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387431137 2477 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tgceec.tumblr.com < 1387431155 381456 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if kmc hasn't heard of this then i don't know where i went wrong < 1387431348 883786 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387432228 693149 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1387432364 506004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, what < 1387432374 293932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fun < 1387433188 841202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that feeling of relief when people are like "Check out this AWFUL Hacker News article" but HN just won't load and I go on with my life < 1387433214 326150 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell yea < 1387433243 870134 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387433994 443793 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387436688 233178 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387438005 788993 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1387438534 940423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's legal well you won't get in trouble for it < 1387438550 33176 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell yea < 1387438623 818455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a bot < 1387438642 66025 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :naw brah < 1387438652 505840 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1387438655 920851 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cadabrah < 1387438656 360720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you a bot < 1387438656 773607 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: teekkarikortti reminds me of descent1 musics. but if you really want < 1387438667 250667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you have to tell me if you're a bot < 1387438667 507607 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: he told me :) there are many people who actually do something < 1387440105 350650 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387440360 939062 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387441704 757576 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The world’s smallest species of deer. http://angrytorro.com/fs/i/2012/12/30/5f34722ddceecfc4999fdfd31de82c.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Pudu_puda_young_Parken_Zoo.jpg http://www.odensezoo.dk/uploads/tx_zookatalog/crop.pudu_1.506x336.jpg < 1387441742 459778 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1387441987 923840 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387444906 685698 :impomatic!~digital_w@36.104.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is that the same John Regehr who did this http://www.cs.utah.edu/~regehr/talks/corewar/sld001.htm < 1387446200 354345 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387447733 347346 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We describe how to disable the [webcam-on notification] LED on a class of Apple internal iSight webcams used in some versions of MacBook laptops and iMac desktops. This enables video to be captured without any visual indication to the user and can be accomplished entirely in user space by an unprivileged (non- root) application. < 1387447738 274805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same technique that allows us to disable the LED, namely reprogramming the firmware that runs on the iSight, enables a virtual machine escape whereby malware running inside a virtual machine reprograms the camera to act as a USB Human Interface Device (HID) keyboard --" < 1387447742 275889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fancy. < 1387447851 914839 :Timwi!~Timwi@178.19.210.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387447867 387294 :Timwi!~Timwi@178.19.210.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION meows!
< 1387447876 649415 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: :-) < 1387447886 720434 :Timwi!~Timwi@178.19.210.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if there is an esolang with ‘meow’ as the only keyword
< 1387447962 246422 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Timwi: a port of Ook to cat? < 1387448002 261129 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Timwi: would an esolang with no keywords where you can put meow in the source and pretend it's a keyword count? < 1387448015 864972 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like for example whitespace < 1387448072 520042 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Timwi! < 1387448079 577286 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hows the funcitoning going? < 1387449149 124294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1387449735 923837 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1387449736 509578 :Timwi!~Timwi@178.19.210.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi all < 1387449744 460199 :Timwi!~Timwi@178.19.210.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I actually thought of Ook too :) < 1387449766 314273 :Timwi!~Timwi@178.19.210.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Haven’t worked on it again since the last update... but in January I think I’m definitely going to add lambda support to the compiler < 1387449772 656651 :Timwi!~Timwi@178.19.210.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you ask? :) < 1387450347 963406 :impomatic!~digital_w@36.104.208.46.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387450829 439624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I've gotta say, though, /// is a pretty great language. <-- smooth. < 1387451047 127538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he might have got away with it if not for those pesky agora followers. < 1387451089 675137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait < 1387451094 915135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs arufonsu < 1387451144 276051 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.18029 < 1387451166 768195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it was here. < 1387451244 397900 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387451477 276611 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387452418 935569 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387453062 664918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "We describe how to disable the [webcam-on notification] LED on a class of [...] <-- you'd think the whole _point_ of a webcam LED would be to make it entirely hardware so it _cannot_ be hacked around... < 1387453277 420784 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't necessarily think so < 1387453288 706481 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: both kinds of led thing can make sense < 1387453314 160995 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a soft led can work like the red lamp in studios to know when you're on live < 1387453360 984457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose... but for that, there's no point in having a led, you can just use some indicator on the screen. < 1387453479 620047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the idea of people hacking webcams is old enough that it's _presently_ idiotic to make a LED that doesn't protect against it. < 1387453554 35476 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387453751 528844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god how many weeks are they going to keep digging and drilling in the ground around here < 1387453784 257795 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387453841 341707 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387453858 483411 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387453955 336218 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387454867 27036 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387455174 49476 :atriq!5c177beb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.23.123.235 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387455734 897226 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387455865 944755 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the whole point of doing it in software is to make the hardware so cheap that you can annoy every laptop buyer by force-shipping it with their laptop < 1387456029 473560 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: They did try to make it slightly hardware. < 1387456066 612844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: To go into detail, it's tied to the same pin of the USB interface chip that enables the actual camera sensor module. < 1387456104 413511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: They just neglected to consider the fact that the camera sensor module has a configuration register that can be used to make it not care about that signal. < 1387456139 790101 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so it is in hardware but can be overridden by software. < 1387456147 152324 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a good design. < 1387456158 857779 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the USB interface chip's firmware the attack replaces, with a version that twiddles those particular camera sensor configuration bits. < 1387456260 506976 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The reprogramming also requires some custom USB requests, which would require special privileges on Linux, but not on OS X.) < 1387456682 628580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131219-isight.png is what it looks like, and while STANDBY in the camera module is asserted (i.e., the LED is off), it cannot be used to take any pictures, normally; however, there's an I2C-addressible configuration register in the MT9V112 that has bits to override that. I guess they just couldn't find a usable "lower-level" signal from the ... < 1387456688 913739 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... image sensor, and didn't want to go through the trouble of making a separate circuit to, say, control whether the image sensor gets any power, and tie the LED to that. < 1387456753 903906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, it's "more hardwarey" than just having an entirely separate GPIO pin for the LED. Just... not enough. < 1387456819 283460 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This was for 2008 models, maybe they've fixed that since then.) < 1387456935 747737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: marvelous < 1387457015 465318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think my laptop even has any kind of a LED, so it could be worse! < 1387457115 859673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i vaguely have the idea LEDs only got popular after the hacking started < 1387457589 878799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1387457717 646200 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387457962 832976 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387458187 927805 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387458226 821436 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387459186 26724 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good macabre morning! < 1387459293 496973 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'day < 1387459293 723413 :atriq!5c177beb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.23.123.235 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Macabr? < 1387459400 509546 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :atangevlobriq. < 1387459416 161262 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: cf. the latest Entry to the Wisdom. < 1387459460 105655 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: how's the weather in Maine? < 1387459468 919580 :atriq!5c177beb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.23.123.235 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm atriq because now I have a bouncer which I cannot access from this computer) < 1387459550 22918 :microt!~caustic@c-67-169-99-96.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387460057 948724 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome microt < 1387460060 688043 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13microt: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.) < 1387460098 550039 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pretty friggin cold. < 1387460139 643406 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KBGR < 1387460140 63547 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KBGR 191253Z 00000KT 8SM FEW045 BKN200 M11/M12 A2998 RMK AO2 SLP158 I1000 T11061122 < 1387460145 68355 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1387460148 649086 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 191300Z 15006KT 7SM -SN OVC032 M04/M06 A2991 RMK SC8 SLP130 < 1387460155 896866 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: I agree. < 1387460172 378271 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is puzzled by the Innnn group...
< 1387460268 933548 :atriq!5c177beb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.23.123.235 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EGNT < 1387460282 358495 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGNT 191320Z 23010KT 190V260 9999 FEW020 05/01 Q0994 < 1387460500 16991 :microt!~caustic@c-67-169-99-96.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387461149 177816 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot it. I can't find no reference whatsoever to any occurence or documentation on Innnn. < 1387461149 517715 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i was thinking hp i guess, but i can't say i have values: foo, bar < 1387461179 148783 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I would be very surprised if HP were involved in that kind of report, and foo and bar are values of the wrong type. < 1387461179 632313 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'll just order the records via net... i need all three right? i.e. i'm pondering it, but that might won't scale if the input was only the continuations file that was floating around < 1387461257 80297 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: good idea. I should write an email over to Bangor requesting some clarifications. I need All the Possible Information! and fyi, the weather doesn't have to scale. it's the weather, after all. < 1387461257 362561 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: a quill! let's interview it! :) fnord bytes now, i just couldn't stand being cut off with the 1 < 1387461275 970289 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh, an interview with an airport representative! with a fancy quill, no less! < 1387461276 172490 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: unless it's from microsoft, it's not strictly required. < 1387461292 27024 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: bletch. I'm a Linux guy, you heretic. < 1387461996 801743 :Timwi!~Timwi@178.19.210.162 QUIT : < 1387462302 455048 :conehead!uid16140@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-skqsfmlekhessody JOIN :#esoteric < 1387462640 698056 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know anything about http://esolang-book.route477.net/ ? it looks interesting < 1387462682 251335 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has "exercises" that are code golf. very cute < 1387462700 409914 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :not clicking. < 1387462846 230099 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: えぇと…このページは日本語で書いていました… < 1387463076 810469 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: そう。問題を見ない < 1387463400 505932 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION は楓棒でnooodlに当たります
< 1387463545 910280 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387463628 986839 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Read error: No buffer space available < 1387463647 488587 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@169.244.180.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387463745 619127 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Rouringu de hajikunda! < 1387464468 127036 :bijumon!~bijumon@117.196.136.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387464498 542405 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome bijumon < 1387464501 227210 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06bijumon: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04irc.dal.net.) < 1387464671 362070 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, आपका स्वागत है! (or maybe ਵੇਲ੍ਕੋਮੇ!) < 1387464675 505518 :bijumon!~bijumon@117.196.136.76 QUIT :Client Quit < 1387464681 207648 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1387464985 817140 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387466727 204045 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387466837 455998 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387467363 424876 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@169.244.180.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387467696 376947 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387467701 875516 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387467721 629033 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387468148 324995 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387468330 685616 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387468364 31739 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387469261 55258 :atriq!5c177beb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.23.123.235 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387469833 59453 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387470109 602005 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387470130 977922 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387470245 745585 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387470976 345254 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387471922 135510 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387471958 6093 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387472148 750213 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387472325 627135 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387472382 461375 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-72-249.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387472489 851992 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-248.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387472570 122271 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387472694 383694 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387472698 813742 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387472702 147122 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1387472726 479436 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387472775 393028 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-248.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387472777 43466 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1387472953 788528 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387473126 111170 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387473304 211258 :16WABRWDR!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387473331 718917 :16WABRWDR!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387473358 56874 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387473400 998515 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. before my comp dies, I kinda simplified Arufonsu's language last night. < 1387473433 479484 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it with A, D, C, P and N. < 1387473442 772861 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :append, delete, copy, paste, null op. < 1387473455 580623 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :append appends the command after it to the end of the program. < 1387473465 888712 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :delete deletes the command at the very end of the program. < 1387473477 712168 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :copy copies the very end of the program. < 1387473488 524564 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :and paste pastes the thing previously copied. < 1387473501 747570 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :and null is just null. it can be used for unary representation or something. < 1387473575 901676 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAA -> AAAA -> AAAAA -> AAAAAA -> AAAAAAA -> AAAAAAAA -> etc. < 1387473605 88538 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :peace. < 1387473876 49691 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387474547 74820 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387474631 27523 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387475895 935989 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: what language is this? can you link? < 1387475963 207293 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: just "reduced" it from Arufonsu's language that he speculated about last night. < 1387476031 834336 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible to extend it to any non-reserved symbol. < 1387476041 629590 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have it just ignore any unrecognized symbols. < 1387476059 2650 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a more.. explicit rewrite system, effectively. < 1387476107 999194 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :I included the "null operation" for shit like unary counting and a dummy symbol (good practice in my regard), but it's not required. < 1387476135 305237 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even without extending its operational reach you can just perform the same kind of ops with any other operation. < 1387476195 237126 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387476317 603192 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :and LinearInterpol completes the challenge "How many times can you use the word 'operation' in a sentence?" < 1387476554 452393 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387476603 264889 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily < 1387476807 126999 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia. < 1387476821 417090 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm at a resort < 1387476824 61316 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for xmas < 1387476829 882017 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :feliz navidad! < 1387476861 895393 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ¿en qué país estas tu? < 1387476894 616103 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(¡feliz año nuevo!) < 1387476896 117529 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :aroempiunbilciacn < 1387476911 595376 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ar/dr/ < 1387476933 85755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1387477087 747064 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: ok, but I don't get the context because I don't know the original speculation < 1387477134 751510 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: is it something similar to the (likely not turing complete) automatons defined in Smullyan's books (in Lady and the Tiger, and in Arabian whatsit) < 1387477152 587931 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: unscramble the code! < 1387477199 860593 :Chillectual!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387477267 955796 :Chillectual!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: nah. some dude came in last night and specified a system that modifies itself. < 1387477271 378410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well... it sounds very much like dominican republic... oh. you interlaced the parts. < 1387477283 834629 :Chillectual!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :a system for effectively specifying self-modifying programs. < 1387477288 936376 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: so, how's the weather down there, you vile vacationer? < 1387477309 935122 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: warm and humid with bouts of light rain < 1387477329 294394 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, i'm still up there in the cold with you in spirit < 1387477367 56366 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :even as i sip my included alcoholic beverages on my private beach waiting to eat at my included sushi restaurant < 1387477383 11308 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387477415 533874 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1387477417 451615 :Chillectual!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*(*(c.abd.ef)d)e) -> e < 1387477419 197432 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAURGH! < 1387477424 203756 :Chillectual!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :rage. < 1387477426 612841 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1387477447 80605 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION oils and hones his mapole... “the vengeance will be terrible! and polite, eh!”
< 1387477482 897296 :Chillectual!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :tu es quebequoi? < 1387477512 857448 :Chillectual!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387477514 728547 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :il semblerait pas mal que je le suis en effet. < 1387477534 523121 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :poutine. < 1387477555 76897 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ça fait étrangement un bout que j'en ai mangé. je pense que je suis dû. < 1387477574 448441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mais il faut pas me prendre comme exemple du québécois moderne. je mange plus de phở que de poutine.) < 1387477578 448693 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :oui. < 1387477581 199196 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can only half read that < 1387477589 413801 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :je ne parles pas francais. < 1387477606 782476 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm phoshapedthing < 1387477609 844759 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: for someone who doesn't speak French, yours is quite good. < 1387477622 150526 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's not made to be read, but to be Experienced. < 1387477628 355207 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1387477638 953801 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :je ne etudie pas francais. < 1387477657 927928 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :parce que je suis idiot. < 1387477685 731559 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah. y'a plein de langues dans le monde. le français en est juste une. < 1387477698 139762 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what languages are you studying? < 1387477704 484644 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :none! < 1387477705 464424 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387477754 583817 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then how many do you speak? < 1387477787 850368 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :two only somewhat. < 1387477790 20777 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. < 1387477796 849485 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :one is my native, one is my.. secondary. < 1387477799 373599 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :english and french. < 1387477807 943963 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live in maine. < 1387477818 953900 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :And we used to go over to Canada occasionally. < 1387477829 65072 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I picked up some. < 1387477846 885939 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :French has this tendency to be osmotically picked by people who come in contact with it. < 1387477864 988975 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you go? have you visited Montréal? < 1387477872 371371 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :oui. < 1387477878 238613 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :I drove through montreal on my way to Michigan. < 1387477889 346655 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :we also used to go to St. John. < 1387478007 322212 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combien de temps tu etudie l'informatique? < 1387478016 312919 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that probably didn't make any sense.) < 1387478025 297193 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it makes sense.) < 1387478048 880784 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :j'ai fait mon baccalauréat en génie informatique entre 2007 et 2011. je suis maintenant employé à temps plein dans une boîte de logiciels libres. < 1387478088 609802 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh, tu aimes emploi, no? < 1387478101 936102 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_>'... <_<'... < 1387478107 147788 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1387478111 154205 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. I'm thinking of switching jobs. < 1387478116 68985 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeesh. < 1387478124 847167 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :best luck in that. it's a hard road. < 1387478133 380930 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :you a sysadmin? < 1387478140 77572 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, a developer in the ERP team. < 1387478144 227082 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERP? < 1387478149 930756 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enterprise Resource Planning. < 1387478165 665638 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like middle-management hell. < 1387478242 94340 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends. it's majoritairement more like web development, but then there are some bureaucratically hellish projects. < 1387478275 17945 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :strict requirements like that suck. < 1387478318 688924 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the strictness of the requirements is not bad, it's when you're stuck with vague, undefinable jargonish buzzwordian requirements that I'm irked. < 1387478340 55129 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :go into engineering! we're all about 05overly verbose specifications. < 1387478362 226533 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am an engineer. I proudly wear my Iron Ring. < 1387478369 100492 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387478434 127704 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb for a sec. < 1387478435 753372 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387478456 685017 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthelloswork. < 1387478571 685601 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: we have an ERP system that's really really bad and I'm going to blame you for it < 1387478706 221039 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I accept responsibility. dabbling in an ERP's source code is worse for your brains than trying to read multiple necronomiconses at the same time. < 1387478858 884802 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387479039 138683 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-166-98.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387479057 569811 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The erp goes burp. < 1387479088 649927 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-166-98.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :herpa derp < 1387479098 486988 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erp goes burp, fungot goes markov, but what does the XML say ♪ < 1387479111 226146 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fungot goes markov < 1387479111 638847 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i should start on my bestselling book series, starting with the slow version and applying algebraic transformations of programs i use. < 1387479148 220339 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: neat, what's it about and when will it start bestselling? < 1387479148 421570 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: never heard of it. i'll give that a try < 1387479278 52108 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I insist. your bot, it is way too sentient. < 1387479280 316726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, fungot! < 1387479280 702179 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 2 gregorr: ps ( thread-id 28) created a useful/ fnord graphical diagram of the 100+ operators in the c-intercal manual, automatically translated from brainfuck constants on the wiki < 1387479423 93921 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387479553 158892 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when not. < 1387479575 882219 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: scary < 1387479576 122374 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: nobody forces you to use pcre, posix regexps, or whatever < 1387479633 493050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: s//well, I do/ < 1387479633 693771 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i can fnord my nick. < 1387479640 709899 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please do. < 1387479640 915041 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is my tabbing a wonky?? < 1387479645 6399 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: mine sure is. < 1387479645 362243 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wonder how much progress happened in the early 1980s it was that large class of people reads, do so few people use fnord chez plt weirdos use .ss, and the < 1387479844 76345 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387480023 431985 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387480077 817917 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-166-98.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :"created a useful/fnord graphical diagram of the 100+ operators in the c-intercal manual, automatically translated from brainfuck constants on the wiki" < 1387480116 991039 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-166-98.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many sentences is that pieced together from < 1387480117 421969 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-166-98.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1387480210 858593 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-166-98.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean because that's an awesome sentence. < 1387480488 987278 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ayay < 1387480497 927096 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is there still no IronScheme compiler < 1387480549 309586 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's almost like they want me to create my own lisp dialect and compile it myself to cil < 1387480593 435812 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Challenge accepted. < 1387480628 688823 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387480747 275957 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I can fnord my nick" < 1387480942 39548 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387480974 807226 :Chillectual!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387481005 640889 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387481093 358037 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody knows if there is an "easy" (i.e. not involving too much java) way to make text based applications for android? < 1387481099 774338 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387481127 162376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use Java without using Eclipse. < 1387481135 148559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a text-based application? < 1387481176 509289 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: text-based on android? < 1387481201 183407 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ncurses or the like < 1387481212 942973 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you can. but when doing android development, you're way better off with and IDE and the Google libs. < 1387481214 46801 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387481218 510300 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. there is a nethack port < 1387481234 596136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a small Android application without using Eclipse. < 1387481235 646972 :Chillectual!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387481242 250326 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: impressive. < 1387481253 989746 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: the easy way is to make a webpage you run on an external server and access it from the android phone < 1387481267 705683 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't need any java < 1387481284 7983 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i actually prefer that atm, it needs active internet connection, though < 1387481286 41706 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387481397 617367 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with recenter android versions, the performance of the web widget isn't too bad. < 1387482278 669600 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: there's also MIT's app inventor < 1387482303 880016 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that? < 1387482308 390307 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-166-98.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i decided to log onto facebook from france and typoed my password < 1387482320 732991 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-166-98.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now it's asking for my birthdate < 1387482333 76053 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-166-98.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i'd know what i put there :P < 1387482341 735825 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: http://appinventor.mit.edu/explore/ < 1387483043 504317 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks interesting < 1387483778 20944 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387483804 109521 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387484026 991992 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.businessinsider.com/927-people-own-half-of-the-bitcoins-2013-12 ha ha < 1387484070 118036 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387484174 853424 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-166-98.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387484205 978811 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-166-98.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387484296 268342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those the Winklevii < 1387484307 98141 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :think so < 1387484489 596293 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then, you get http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2013/12/why-i-want-bitcoin-to-die-in-a.html < 1387484954 228024 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't there just a story on how FBI owns a big pile of bitcoins. < 1387484970 510442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :delicious mincemeat pies < 1387485005 512183 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Android keyboard on this thing, on the other hand, does not even want to *spell* bitcoin. < 1387485031 323469 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nixon. Nixon. Bourdon. Bourdon. No go. < 1387485087 533299 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i heard a fun comment on that article yesterday "this reads to me like why i don't want bitcoin to die in a fire. does this make me a libertarian?" < 1387485126 412283 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: all the ones they confiscated from DPR and friends < 1387485140 166976 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :He wants to buy drugs and child pornography < 1387485141 680921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think weed should be legal, does that make me a libertarian? < 1387485194 534256 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1387485199 939596 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes you a leftist < 1387485210 289465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually neither, but thanks for playing < 1387485213 552263 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes you a rastafarian, doesn't it. < 1387485214 89276 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :US libertarians care more about taxes < 1387485248 233462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think hugs should be legal < 1387485255 653527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what am i < 1387485260 372095 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a deviant. < 1387485263 384991 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are a < 1387485266 871446 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huguenot < 1387485300 322333 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it makes you a drug hippie? < 1387485341 904822 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes you Carl Sagan < 1387485371 232972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In related (not actually) news, I thought I heard someone in a SA game speed-race and/or a LP video (one does browse a lot of YouTube when in bed, sick) refer to a "kmc". < 1387485385 639410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it just means it's healthier to burn paper money than ASICs to heat yourself. < 1387485389 209568 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like kimchi < 1387485409 385837 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kentucky Modified Chicken < 1387485416 520645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was some kind of a person, judging from context. < 1387485442 791647 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are a kmc < 1387485468 611526 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Audio quality was p. bad, v. possible they said something altogether different.) < 1387485492 555037 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you don't need to burn them. asics provide plenty of heat when operating normally < 1387485503 291785 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, you might consider heating your house that way < 1387485515 119734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1387485565 265199 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how do you heat your house? < 1387485565 575965 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the scheme48 command processor/ repl has a wildly different integer.) still don't cut it. i just wanted to say hello to evoli. almost any other country. < 1387485617 771711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess it wasn't "our" (possession not implied) kmc?) < 1387485620 885287 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: if your scheme48 command processor can heat your house, then maybe you need a more environmental cpu. < 1387485621 276056 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he's not online so can't really help you... but i've got it to work < 1387485632 619245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'twasn't < 1387485639 224441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what game? < 1387485655 951082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is more than one kmc? shocking. < 1387485659 576097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Resonance LP, I think. < 1387485694 564336 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's an Intel Atom, that ought to be environmental enough. < 1387485718 535238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : atangevlobriq. <-- i keep thinking that if he'd just been atrix instead, he could have been a hand cream _and_ an ancient gaul. < 1387485765 24993 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Atangevlobrix, de l'Oréal. Parce que vous le tanebbez bien. < 1387485791 270718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i take it your house is very well insulated if that's all your heating, then. < 1387485878 716945 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's not really "my house" when it's just an apartment in a building, and I don't know what kaukolämpö is in English. < 1387485912 654294 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot and the kaukolämpö cooperate with the heating then? < 1387485912 942957 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: do you know rtl? must be in /pb/ though.) that runs on linux win32 and fnord fnord < 1387485913 614565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think gt's translation to english is rigth, but norwegian should be "fordi du fortjener det" < 1387485934 740885 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: district heating??? < 1387485947 934143 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Seems that way. < 1387485951 627268 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ah, fjärrvärme? < 1387485965 758525 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't even make sense in French! «chauffage urbain»??? < 1387485973 448907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Sounds quite literal. < 1387485983 537880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*right < 1387485985 862103 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so, like, the city heats you? < 1387485989 489948 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, it's literally the swedish word < 1387486044 676268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's pretty ubiquitous here for apartment buildings in an urban-enough setting. < 1387486062 484534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warm water in pipes, I believe. < 1387486080 495413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hm he can also be a motorola phone, it seems. < 1387486085 632620 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(No, Android keyboard, not warm water in puppies.) < 1387486096 999005 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if any computer application uses non-integer bases < 1387486099 711816 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like < 1387486104 518682 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Base e real calculations < 1387486118 173564 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can write it in binary, and it has great radix economy! < 1387486179 78207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (935) < 1387486181 552672 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (935): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1387486198 382445 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Danke < 1387486198 865054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: atrix seems to be beiersdorf, not l'oreal. < 1387486326 454151 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387486350 264504 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but I can't mangle beiersdorf as well as l'oréal. < 1387486385 6943 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't there something re phase phi? < 1387486458 602895 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some analog to digital thing that uses phase phi, yes < 1387486462 113281 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fizzie isn't making sense. are you stealing his sentience? < 1387486462 433716 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: best distortion ever used pthread. and that's the part where he calls someone " fnord" prefix and some don't even have a grammar, hows that? < 1387486464 828346 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :bse* < 1387486485 172014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Base phi, I mean. < 1387486498 441019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : echo "The Macabres have been the hereditary rulers of Lochaber for 3 centuries." > wisdom/macabre <-- incidentally i have improved `learn so it should handle that directly now. < 1387486517 523334 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the same as fibonacci base or whatever those're called? < 1387486522 509058 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am wondering for plain old real floating point thing < 1387486523 859174 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1387486531 38887 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Base phi is just like < 1387486549 215448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It did seem related to Fibonacci coding. < 1387486559 939508 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ratio between adjacent fibonacci numbers goes towards phi, iirc < 1387486561 90409 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :abcd = a*phi^3 + b*phi^2 + c*phi + d < 1387486562 915185 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: took it long enough < 1387486565 149636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log (934) < 1387486584 870266 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-09-06.txt:16:00:19: http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/9343.jpg <-- not too much off, but don't remember the bit that is sticking out on the right side of the screen < 1387486633 774141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log \(934\) < 1387486640 362185 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-12-19.txt:20:56:05: `log (934) < 1387486644 262014 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1387486673 51779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log olist.*[9][3][4] < 1387486678 508649 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-12-07.txt:15:47:32: `olist 934 < 1387486686 625857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1387486692 511086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog olist.*[9][3][4] < 1387486699 870798 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-12-07.txt:15:47:36: olist 934: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1387486704 940926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there are way too many different log commands < 1387486710 368960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i even know which one does what < 1387486755 191767 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387486823 852806 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastalog olist.*[9][3][4] < 1387486830 523178 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-07-10.txt:09:17:49: log pasta < 1387486840 319708 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right < 1387486846 359447 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :pastalog is pastlog pasta < 1387486865 675516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/learn < 1387486866 984837 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(a\|the\) //;s/s\? .*//') \ info=$(echo "$1" | sed 's/[^ ]* //') \ echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo "I knew that." < 1387486868 656409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois soundnfury? < 1387486871 16570 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387486888 556125 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell soundnfury do you use tomatoes or pesto for your logs? < 1387486888 745421 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387486890 958780 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they signify nothing? < 1387486936 196407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '2s/[(]a/(an\?/' bin/learn # missed one < 1387486940 55635 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387486949 678259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/learn < 1387486950 905981 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an?\|the\) //;s/s\? .*//') \ info=$(echo "$1" | sed 's/[^ ]* //') \ echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo "I knew that." < 1387486955 185638 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d JOIN :#esoteric < 1387486958 258511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, hm < 1387486987 163152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn An omalous wisdom is anomalous. < 1387486992 243919 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1387486996 579903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? omalou < 1387486998 445443 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :omalou? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1387487025 198095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '2s/?/\\?/' bin/learn # missed one < 1387487029 161094 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387487032 97531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn An omalous wisdom is anomalous. < 1387487036 736143 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1387487039 33679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? omalou < 1387487040 972891 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :An omalous wisdom is anomalous. < 1387487075 690123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oerjan < 1387487077 516384 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :7) what, you mean that wasn't your real name? Gosh, I guess it is. I never realized that. \ 15) oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! \ 18) In an alternate universe, ehird < 1387487078 373917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/an < 1387487079 359237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1387487079 940271 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :An omalous wisdom is anomalous. < 1387487090 382514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the command that gives you a random quote < 1387487093 730607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm wisdom/{an,omalou} < 1387487097 526105 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387487098 285380 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1387487099 731973 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :229) !bfjoust furry_furry_strapon_pegging_girls http://sprunge.us/eKWa * Sgeo had no idea that Gregor was hetero < 1387487104 420682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by a person < 1387487107 818686 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387487109 893531 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quoerjan < 1387487111 456981 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :815) `welcome Rawlie * zzo38 has joined #esoteric thank you You're welcome. < 1387487115 218499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1387487119 170906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is confused by #229
< 1387487137 684672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1387487139 162807 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :362) i never meta turing. he died before i was born. < 1387487142 190686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1387487143 541120 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :540) But whereas the Zune UI makes one think "I want to kill myself", the Windows CE UI makes one think "I want to kill myself, but first kill my parents as punishment for bringing into this world someone who would one day own a Windows CE device." < 1387487163 776325 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quoerjan < 1387487165 376032 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1043) this new apartment stuff has interesting side effects: i'm now getting physical spam. < 1387487181 380417 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ̀quoerjan < 1387487192 577510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quachaf < 1387487194 130339 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :604) VMS Mosaic? I hope that's not Mosaic ported to VMS. Hmm. It's Mosaic ported to VMS. \ 614) * Sgeo|web wants to see elliott be wrong about something Sgeo|web: That literally never happens. Sgeo|web: There you go. A great example. \ 618) You should get kmc in this channel. kmc has g < 1387487203 40082 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quily < 1387487204 227506 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quily: not found < 1387487206 669422 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1387487211 890289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`qungot < 1387487213 261913 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: qungot: not found < 1387487228 597289 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ̀quc < 1387487240 428943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`printf '#!/bin/sh\n\nexec quote fungot' > bin/qungot && chmod +x bin/qungot < 1387487240 775966 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the sorrow! " my little mind wondered the depth of a list as and then it all died... now, i'm sure. < 1387487241 673696 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'#!/bin/sh \ \ exec quote fungot' > bin/qungot && chmod +x bin/qungot < 1387487245 671961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '#!/bin/sh\n\nexec quote fungot' > bin/qungot && chmod +x bin/qungot < 1387487245 983629 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: gambit has ( with-output-to-string thunk)) form1 ( lambda () ( display ( and ( x z) < 1387487249 301661 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387487252 673389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`qungot < 1387487254 175957 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :11) GregorR-L: i bet only you can prevent forest fires. basically, you know. \ 14) Finally I have found some actually useful purpose for it. \ 15) oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. plea < 1387487304 458378 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quintopia < 1387487305 566177 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quintopia: not found < 1387487330 411270 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 618 # a good one < 1387487332 20510 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387487332 209732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: :D < 1387487335 57023 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1387487340 773005 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote 618 # comment? < 1387487342 309892 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :618) You should get kmc in this channel. kmc has good quotes. `quote kmc 686) COCKS [...] truly cocks Well, in theory. < 1387487344 851168 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bam < 1387487349 672717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's me < 1387487363 875685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/qu* < 1387487365 651804 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/quachaf \ bin/queegan \ bin/quine \ bin/quine2 \ bin/qungot \ bin/quoerjan \ bin/quonoid \ bin/quørjan \ bin/quote \ bin/quotes < 1387487366 461435 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 686 < 1387487368 110384 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :686) * Phantom_Hoover moves 0.5 Phantom_Hoover into the Atlantic, and captures fizzie's upper body with 0.5 Phantom_Hoover. Glurk. < 1387487375 290367 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fascinating < 1387487380 325296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/quoerjan < 1387487381 518203 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :allquotes | grep oerjan | shuf | head -n 1 < 1387487392 521283 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quine < 1387487396 360141 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`run quine < 1387487402 914243 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`qungot < 1387487404 521367 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :11) GregorR-L: i bet only you can prevent forest fires. basically, you know. \ 14) Finally I have found some actually useful purpose for it. \ 15) oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. plea < 1387487409 285025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quine < 1387487412 726443 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`quine < 1387487416 434664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. good < 1387487430 57674 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/quine < 1387487431 396759 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ cd /var/irclogs/_esoteric; cat $(ls ????-??-??.txt | tail -1) | sed 's/[^>]*> //' | grep '^`' | tail -1 #Best cheating quine ever? < 1387487436 233929 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm why not backtick? < 1387487437 892061 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1387487456 13453 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :``quine < 1387487457 425446 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `quine: not found < 1387487460 425630 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas < 1387487489 224370 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` < 1387487490 545961 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387487499 43407 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quine < 1387487502 142898 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`` quine < 1387487504 430684 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo `quine < 1387487504 691875 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quine < 1387487510 60481 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1387487510 291405 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`quine < 1387487513 468326 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1387487515 752038 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387487521 746204 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay for not following the RFC < 1387487535 685213 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pats his bot “Good boy!”
< 1387487541 471407 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo ~echo `quine < 1387487542 3974 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo `quine < 1387487550 796795 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, duh < 1387487563 171125 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo `echo ~echo `quine < 1387487563 463116 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ~echo `quine < 1387487564 756484 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​~echo `quine < 1387487575 69378 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :good hackego < 1387487579 825450 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1387487583 947665 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :good hackego < 1387487589 423695 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: No, that kluge isn’t “good”, following the RFC would be good. < 1387487612 568076 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: what problem do you have with zero width spaces < 1387487661 737946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yay for not following the RFC <-- one day i _will_ snap and kick you for blathering about this long since unreasonable to fix issue. < 1387487692 276833 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog RFC < 1387487699 789098 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-09-04.txt:23:33:36: Phantom_Hoover__, irc rfc* < 1387487699 980576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, or i might get hit by a bus first, i guess. < 1387487779 858465 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion is someone snapped by RFCes. oerjan drives the bus that will hit himself. < 1387487801 871859 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion drives the bus that prevents oerjan from snapping < 1387487843 651935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep bus wisdom/* < 1387487847 391975 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/finland:Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least nine of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. \ wisdom/homestuck:Homestuck is a cult religion for disaffected teens. Gamzee drives the bus. Best summarized by http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/05743.gif \ wisdom/narutoverse:narutovers < 1387487869 901889 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really understand the bus thing < 1387487873 601377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -l '\bbus\b' wisdom/* < 1387487875 322379 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/finland \ wisdom/homestuck \ wisdom/narutoverse \ wisdom/narutoversee < 1387487886 612736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i think the finland one is the original. < 1387487899 571262 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it is in the Wisdom, so it is there, and it is to be. < 1387487901 91960 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that... a filename? < 1387487903 157779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless that's based on a meme from elsewhere. < 1387487908 572491 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does the name corun come from? < 1387487913 515963 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, wait, of course not. < 1387487926 444736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run diff narutoverse* < 1387487928 121297 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff: missing operand after `narutoverse*' \ diff: Try `diff --help' for more information. < 1387487946 183606 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run diff wisdom/nautoverse* # hth < 1387487947 641847 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff: missing operand after `wisdom/nautoverse*' \ diff: Try `diff --help' for more information. < 1387487958 256371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh < 1387487960 134556 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: in some universe, pumpkins like to run. in this one, copumpkins corun. < 1387487962 227109 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it helps to type correctly too < 1387487962 527360 :Nithir!~Nithir@37.161.127.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387487979 393659 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run diff wisdom/narutoverse* # hth < 1387487980 764259 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1c1 \ < narutoverse is a place where they haven't heard of having a bus factor of >1. Sgeo drives the bus. \ --- \ > narutoverse is a place where they haven't heard of having a bus factor of >1. < 1387487993 749165 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pumpkins don't run! not even the dogs fly < 1387488008 198480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/narutoversee < 1387488011 673375 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387488014 641896 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: but codogs cofly < 1387488028 462023 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maintaining the Wisdom is oerjanly hard... < 1387488031 3462 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about yotes? what do they do? < 1387488035 253603 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: do bots botfly? < 1387488035 841795 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :originally? < 1387488042 481944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tip: strange filenames differing by appending e usually happens because someone misunderstands sed option syntax. < 1387488063 234127 :Nithir!~Nithir@37.161.127.51 PART :#esoteric < 1387488064 950872 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: somewhere they mmand vertly < 1387488069 933650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you cannot combine -i and -e into -ie) < 1387488089 713874 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ol < 1387488118 333895 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so something like sed -ie asdf s,,,g creates asdfe? < 1387488157 722608 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`man sed < 1387488159 58462 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :man: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config < 1387488166 228467 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck sed < 1387488166 417255 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well shit. < 1387488166 864555 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed definition: sedimentation. < 1387488169 653550 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387488222 790052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well probably creates s,,,ge iirc < 1387488266 303272 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: sed: impossible de lire s,,,g: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type < 1387488271 322312 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah, -i takes a suffix < 1387488295 977628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you usually don't need -e at all, since one sed command argument is the default and you can concatenate them with ;) < 1387488338 273728 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've found that some commands refuse to concatenate though (don't remember which ones) < 1387488376 809484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i expect those like a that take several lines of text to insert < 1387488385 991028 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think -e predates ;, maybe < 1387488431 921117 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, you can't use ; in a script passed with -e? that might explain it < 1387488486 41094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo test | sed -e 's/t/u/;s/t/v/' < 1387488487 522272 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :uesv < 1387488493 713437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: nope, that's not it < 1387488530 976676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo test | sed -e 'ayo;s/t/v/' < 1387488532 666586 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :test \ yo;s/t/v/ < 1387488552 570025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirming my a suspicion. < 1387488579 337970 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to locate that thing that broke, it did involve some of the "fancier" sed commands though < 1387488654 331050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably any instance where the ; can be a continuation of the current command won't split. < 1387488691 57460 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a,i,c which take text to insert would be prime examples. < 1387488727 826281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo test | sed -e 's/t/;/;s/t/v/' < 1387488729 294174 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​;esv < 1387488732 872991 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: CARTE DE POULET < 1387488757 152248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo test | sed -e 's;t;u;;s/t/v/' < 1387488758 790739 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :uesv < 1387488999 525303 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387489069 863951 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387489097 780797 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387489622 783770 :Slereah_!Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387490933 424286 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387491256 123987 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man, i just coincidentally saw 'crimbo' in the wild. wtf, commonwealthers. < 1387491271 955001 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did that mean again? < 1387491279 274937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for crimbo i want bangers & mash < 1387491307 46907 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: commonwealthers? did you see it from a non-UK source? < 1387491327 193464 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like the kind of crap the Aussies'd say < 1387491338 842911 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: christmas < 1387491352 539876 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think he's uk but originally american, i just felt like being broad < 1387491356 864468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jimminy crimbo < 1387491372 977591 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh, crimbo! < 1387491378 79253 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387491733 534708 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387491989 364842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^unscramble aroempiunbilciacn < 1387491989 590418 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :anrcoaeimcpliiubn < 1387492007 273508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: NOPE < 1387492059 736091 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mauke.hopto.org/stuff/c/kimian.c < 1387492093 149019 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :site seems down < 1387492104 240084 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which site < 1387492111 948917 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke dot hopto dot org < 1387492118 861857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems up to me < 1387492119 743764 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1387492134 878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :works4me < 1387492154 844664 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. mysterious. < 1387492157 25100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble aroempiunbilciacn < 1387492157 225287 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aominicancilbuper < 1387492168 853029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i see < 1387492185 801611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sense an error. < 1387492191 825627 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-166-98.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :this table is really really sticky. < 1387492198 697888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: anyway it's just a quine < 1387492309 724819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there was a s/ar/dr/ < 1387492388 582485 :impomatic!~john_metc@14.233.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1387492404 212409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Packing a range of Intel Xeon processors, the new Mac Pro is more than twice as fast as its predecessor, released three years ago" < 1387492446 952558 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :free range processors < 1387492471 150330 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-166-98.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387493073 107519 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-222.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387493279 884831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog brainfuck constants on the wiki < 1387493288 108291 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2006-10-20.txt:17:27:04: fine. as for those 105 plusses, take a look at Brainfuck constants on the wiki. < 1387493298 405224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog brainfuck constants on the wiki < 1387493305 233885 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2006-10-20.txt:17:27:04: fine. as for those 105 plusses, take a look at Brainfuck constants on the wiki. < 1387493313 805172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1387494218 114216 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google brainfuck constants on the wiki < 1387494218 957129 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_constants < 1387494219 145776 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Brainfuck constants - Esolang < 1387494243 988109 :microt!~caustic@c-67-169-99-96.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387494258 128513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly what it says on the tin < 1387494767 735460 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unleashed my whirling dervish one last time to LMFAO's Party Rockin, now headed home to begin Crimbo break" seriously brits, these aren't real words < 1387494799 646279 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a whirling dervish is a type of dance < 1387494816 195538 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :LMFAO's Party Rockin is perhaps a pop song < 1387494834 799165 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and crimbo is crimbo! < 1387494899 410688 :muskrat_!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-163.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387494920 253588 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I was sure crimbo meant criminal < 1387494943 322090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a muslim religious dancer of sorts. < 1387495020 585748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dance consists of rotating. < 1387495024 709740 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-222.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387495028 15123 :muskrat_!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-163.psoas.suomi.net NICK :muskrat < 1387495071 749821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Cf-ZxDfZA < 1387495543 953782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For example, we demonstrated extracting a 4096-bit RSA key from a Lenovo ThinkPad T61 by observing the change in its chassis potential from the far side of a 10 meters long Ethernet cable" < 1387495598 12340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's p. good < 1387496081 272387 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387496110 413545 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387496274 176309 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc what was that thing with CAs and auditing mozilla was doing < 1387496286 448292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh i don't remember a specific one < 1387496295 507535 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some new system? < 1387496326 535283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1387496337 991004 :microt!~caustic@c-67-169-99-96.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387496352 860932 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1387496356 749853 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks anyway < 1387496373 107732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me if you find it < 1387497239 608587 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 brainfuck constants on the wiki, 99 brainfuck constants. take one down, increment it, 100 brainfuck constants on the wiki < 1387497271 554659 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387497397 468610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: itym 256 hth < 1387497414 757084 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did someone add some even larger ones < 1387497415 126913 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1387497460 89249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah there's 333 < 1387497485 756819 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i hallucinated this thing < 1387497615 927872 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387497878 193737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: so, 257 actually. < 1387498331 27061 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387498367 966541 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387498649 83246 :blop!~blop@static.english-learning.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387498688 980633 :blop!~blop@static.english-learning.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387498705 119193 :blop!~blop@static.english-learning.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387498732 405404 :blop!~blop@static.english-learning.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo ! I'm a ghoooooost < 1387498740 779122 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh non < 1387498793 276815 :blop!~blop@static.english-learning.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this chan about ? < 1387498796 193320 :blop!~blop@static.english-learning.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmation ? < 1387498801 854601 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome blop < 1387498803 784647 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :blop: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1387498827 304663 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, yeah, programming. < 1387498954 779363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about designing programming languages which are useless on purpose rather than by accident < 1387498977 855903 :blop!~blop@static.english-learning.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :That what I'm seeing, it seems fun :) < 1387498987 428372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they have to be useless < 1387499008 21153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1387499099 867827 :blop!~blop@static.english-learning.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that to be "esoteric" don't help them to be usefull < 1387499194 474624 :blop!~blop@static.english-learning.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :every program should be writted in Brainfuck++ :)) < 1387499297 684746 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :About the olist: < 1387499299 138328 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are some slight changes in color and font rendering from normal, due to the fact that I'm working on a different machine with different versions of all the programs I usually use. I'll try to iron these out as we go forward." < 1387499609 414712 :blop!~blop@static.english-learning.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1387499950 365658 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-19.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387499981 139128 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-19.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1387499981 328016 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387500780 426364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ioun_Stone < 1387500973 566783 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never played tabletop D&D but the rules seem incredibly convoluted and arbitrary < 1387500982 735378 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thus on topic??) < 1387500987 263578 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're pretty ok except for grappling. < 1387501585 144370 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387501723 105390 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387501746 843567 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387501931 285652 :microt!~caustic@c-67-169-99-96.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387502032 950416 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does The Onion have a crush on Alan Alda < 1387502716 83510 :microt!~caustic@c-67-169-99-96.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1387503335 485818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: https://cure53.de/xmas2013/ < 1387503532 532056 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Cubli: a cube that can jump up, balance, and 'walk' http://youtu.be/n_6p-1J551Y < 1387503605 531528 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387504664 530666 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387506925 723924 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387507153 978519 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387507289 371759 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1387507359 359600 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-121-241.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387507452 463440 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-165.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387507521 103317 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387507595 177600 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm not sure how to get the data. i must be missing something < 1387507602 898321 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-121-241.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1387507605 751774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i'll be sure if i think about it < 1387507631 742362 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387507633 424975 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387507803 289028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the UK, Christmas is known as Crimbo and Santa Claus is known as Crimbo Jones < 1387508058 928788 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387508220 103036 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387508668 456204 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387509040 140868 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387510226 16282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1387510304 440303 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My IP address has now changed to 24.207.57.25. I will update the DNS when I am able to do so. < 1387510505 319191 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it has < 1387510524 988272 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does your domain point to your own personal computer at home? < 1387510541 300792 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-163.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387510565 466593 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1387510574 618623 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, now it doesn't work, but it will once I fix it) < 1387510705 878643 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1387510736 217550 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any github projects zzo38? < 1387510742 120818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1387510779 584885 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1387510986 519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have some git repositories on repo.or.cz though (but they haven't been updated in a long time) < 1387510993 515753 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/lolphp/comments/1qos6m/meta_why_does_this_subreddit_have_the_css_display/cdf7lr4?context=1 < 1387511068 799606 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: ++ < 1387511101 376868 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would the Russian algorithm be better than using the algorithm I have currently used for multiplication of two sixteen-bit numbers? < 1387511470 296047 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-121-241.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1387511533 19796 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387511830 883582 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat http://www.dilbertfiles.com/ < 1387512023 958476 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387512336 39449 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387513119 428851 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1387513405 339407 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where’s GarfieldFiles? < 1387513415 598675 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GarFiles < 1387513495 100469 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387514496 250748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.coinion.com/ "UNITED STATES DOLLAR ALMOST DOUBLES IN VALUE IN A SINGLE DAY" < 1387514526 679633 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SATOSHI NAKAMOTO REVEALED AS KEANU REEVES" oh hell ye < 1387514712 119874 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yeah :-) < 1387514746 53276 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The currency has been losing value for 227 years in a row." < 1387514763 887539 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not actually true... < 1387514777 18973 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've had years of net USD deflation. :) < 1387514832 897295 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is not the first time the currency has seen a fast rise in value. On April 10th this year, it rose over 60% in a single day. However, the fast rises are dangerously deceiving: after each such gain, the currency slowly devalued each time, in what can be described a slow-motion crash." i can't tell if this is seriously supposed to be pro-bitcoin < 1387515044 981454 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Quit: Bye. < 1387515047 853312 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like... i don't get the satire here. is the point that giving bitcoins value based on usd trading is silly because like < 1387515068 102057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh I didn't read the article but the headline made me laugh out loud < 1387515073 523954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(often the case with the onion as well) < 1387515079 425245 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :/ < 1387515283 866809 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387515318 471492 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387515600 463390 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387516024 401423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: pretty sure it's anti-bitcoin < 1387516110 876290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes satire doesn't have to make a strong point in favor of one side but only view things from a different perspective than usual or something < 1387516207 246880 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387516236 545379 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://www.coinion.com/2013/12/07/after-bitcoin-congress-also-considering-banning-surgery-and-space-exploration-says-too-complicated/ etc < 1387516594 443075 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387518954 317858 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1387519118 442205 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387519985 79335 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387520147 264974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:14 Hello. I want to learn Haskell, which book do you recommend? I have background of C, Emacs Lisp, Scheme, and Clojure programming < 1387520150 339037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:14 LYAH is popular, but... Scheme and Clojure, you're probably curious about metaprogramming to some extent < 1387520166 829896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i think that's just you < 1387520192 700343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is valuable to learn for reasons not having to do with "metaprogramming" < 1387520224 610087 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but the question may still come up? < 1387520234 166643 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1387520561 991696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Me coming from imperative programming was never introduced to backticks in syntax." < 1387520589 620553 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me bike < 1387520622 414139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is v. innovative < 1387520637 860250 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ME BILL < 1387520669 148743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1387520935 461067 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387521213 785643 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -lwe 'print `echo backticks`' < 1387521217 38043 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :backticks < 1387521236 876706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: perl isn't imperative enough to forbid backticks < 1387521797 225804 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realized I forgot to mention an illusion I made up, in the most recent recording of Dungeons&Dragons game. < 1387522021 793648 :stuntaneous!~stuntaneo@2001:1af8:4700:a000:10:: JOIN :#esoteric < 1387522023 746655 :stuntaneous!~stuntaneo@2001:1af8:4700:a000:10:: QUIT :Excess Flood < 1387522041 838644 :stuntaneous!~stuntaneo@2001:1af8:4700:a000:10:: JOIN :#esoteric < 1387523204 13266 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387523545 753061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed it < 1387524249 780254 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1387524454 868277 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387524464 182088 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this "Unhuman Alliance", there is a vending machine and it sells many kind of items, including a qualitative calculator, a cloak of invisibility to humans, a sign with "Oak: Now is not the time to use that!" written on it, a suitcase, a portable spaceship, a half red and half invisible pill, and you can buy one or two eggs, but buying two eggs costs less than buying only one. < 1387524481 998650 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a qualitative calculator < 1387524521 726905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think it is a calculator that can only display "+", "-", and "0". I wouldn't think it is very good. < 1387524575 963967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how large a vending machine has to be to sell suitcases (or portable spaceships, however that works), either. < 1387524635 213269 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387525368 394061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a hole in a ceiling is blocked by a hovering platform, how should the bottom of the platform be described? < 1387525417 787536 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387525437 890337 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'there was a shitload of wind coming down' < 1387525511 729195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a windload of shit < 1387525544 684003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the appearance of the platform itself (and how it would appear in such a position), and anyways it is able to fly without wind for some reason. < 1387525592 106358 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a hole in the ceiling. with your keen deductive powers, you notice that it is blocked, but with a few hands of leeway < 1387525595 757848 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume you use horse units < 1387525691 884086 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I am sorry I made a mistake; it isn't really a hole, but rather the ceiling simply extends much higher so it is another room above with no walls to separate it from the room below (you cannot enter unless you fly or use the hover platform) < 1387525709 29930 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see a hole in the see-ling. a few hands above the hole there's some kind of flat expanse. you think you can see miniature people walking upside down on the expanse. they have constructed a small civilization. you wonder what will happen when they build skyscrapers. < 1387525819 314919 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :after some thought, you realize that, small as the upside-down people are - a few millithumbs at most - skyscrapers will be too adversely affected by forces such as turbulence to be constructed, even though at your scale these things don't matter so much. you reflect on how tall you really are. < 1387525903 346952 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how tall your characters are. < 1387525951 65165 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There aren't any people standing on the bottom part of the hovering platform. Even if there was, it wouldn't work if the platform is coming back down! < 1387525972 155071 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would work, you'd just crush them. Good moral quandary for your players. < 1387525995 293504 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And anyways characters of different height might come in the room where this is viewed from (the same room containing the vending machine). < 1387526034 240076 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You see a hole in the ceiling. A few hands above the hole, there is a small flat surface. It's probably a hover platform. You wonder why they don't just hang it from the ceiling with chains or something. You briefly start charting out a potential pulley system to save on magic energy before being interrupted by the vending machine. < 1387526083 47796 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can use something like that perhaps < 1387526102 975991 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it actually uses a pulley system. It's not like you can see above the platform. But you're used to magicians being ridiculous and hard to deal with by now. What the heck is a portable rocket? < 1387526105 174656 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although like I said it isn't really a hole < 1387526130 241130 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I understand what you meant. Does it slope? < 1387526134 24205 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ceiling. < 1387526151 626121 :farrioth!~farrioth@236.69.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387526152 807276 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is an adjoining room without any partitions, except that instead of next to it on the ground, it is above. < 1387526178 30970 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... how do you see up there? < 1387526189 14576 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like is there a door or something. < 1387526202 197755 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ceiling-door < 1387526237 32997 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, there is no door, but the actual ceiling is higher than it should be for one room (since the adjoining rooms that are to the north, south, east, west do not have such a high ceiling) < 1387526263 638625 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1387526340 933847 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This room is much higher than the room you were just in; in fact, it looks to be twice as high. You see rooms adjoining above you. There is no floor, but you can see a hovering platform potentially useful for upper-room-halling. You wonder how you can incorporate all this into your next Octopus of the World game. < 1387526387 990549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there is actual things in the room above like if someone can fly they can use them, or someone standing on a hovering platform can also use it even if you cannot fly. < 1387526434 939172 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As you walk into the room, you immediately notice the ceiling. It is higher than the rest of the ceilings you've seen, and also covered in a mural-style still-life of a piece of cheesecake. A cherry on the cake is obscured by a hovering platform. < 1387526450 821138 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387526470 466148 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of sick fucker puts a cherry on cheesecake, you think to yourself < 1387526509 925399 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe people who like to make cherry cheesecake, will do so. < 1387526660 367887 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are filled with dread as you walk into the room. Your eyes inch up and - yes, the room is too tall. After a deep breath, you steal a quick glance straight up - oh thank god, there's a small hovering platform directly above you. But you know this room is going to be hell on your reverse fear of heights. < 1387526877 808096 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...compile-time unit testing < 1387526887 989535 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You stop in the room to consider your surroundings. As that hovering platform always been there? You realize Marge must have put it in. Why would she do that? The room was perfectly fine as it was, with the next story's rooms inaccessible. Why can't she understand your design sense? This is why you broke up. < 1387527062 179572 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The room must be forty hands tall. What the fuck? Why? A platform floats stilly above you and you spit at it. This is fucked. < 1387527073 596511 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel free to stop me when you've got what you need < 1387527107 52996 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will tell you if any of it is seem OK for this purpose, but so far it doesn't < 1387527208 124998 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main feature of the room is a platform hovering above you, about as high as the last room's ceiling. The bottom is spiked, with one main "stalactite" hanging down at last three hands. The spikes are colorfully festooned with party streamers and Christmas decorations. You assume that the force keeping them up must be the force keeping the platform itself airborne. < 1387527361 403339 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A platform hangs above, as ponderous as a pregnant person's breasts. It sways idly, lustily. You know you shall have to conquer it to proceed. < 1387527401 6200 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still no good? Can I get some feedback? < 1387527411 383535 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually the hovering platform is *not* above; it is much closer to the ground so someone can stand on it. It will be above if someone else is using it though. < 1387527434 893838 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why'd you start out by asking how to describe the bottom then? < 1387527457 833389 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, really I should describe both the bottom and the top, actually! < 1387527478 27434 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, it is a MUD, so anyone can try to access it to view them; they are set "examinable" so anyone can view the program if you want to. < 1387527488 433519 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frankly I feel you should have given more information if you expected me to be able to write clearly. < 1387527498 905805 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not clearly, just appropriately. < 1387527499 94642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably you are correct. < 1387527533 302742 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the player character have a dead relative? < 1387527564 634794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: buying two eggs costs less than buying only one in a story by lewis carroll < 1387527566 171885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There may be many characters, so maybe they don't have a dead relative; I don't know if they have a dead relative or not! < 1387527583 372776 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, I know, I have read about that too < 1387527590 736894 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they have no dead relatives that implies a lot. < 1387527602 585229 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, all living things in the real world have a dead relative. < 1387527640 122462 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, then probably they do have some dead relative. (Except for unusual circumstances...) < 1387527648 638575 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot. < 1387527671 438956 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if they were created by magic, as in the Borges story, "The Circular Ruins"? < 1387527702 546215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh, wait, all these descriptions were unrelated? < 1387527708 367710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was reading this as one continuous story < 1387527724 565934 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :death of the author and all, man. < 1387527728 156198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also i didn't read the beginning < 1387527733 767221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was just spontaneous < 1387527739 402388 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering why < 1387527748 117534 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no beginning and no end. There is only you, the room, and the platform. < 1387527751 923080 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's another description) < 1387527819 685276 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The platform is about four hands on a side, a standard Tsblisi elevator model. You note that the secondary thrust has been vandalized by someone named Tina. < 1387527957 632955 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is the symbol for bottom _|_ rather than (_|_)? < 1387527968 331958 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that looks like a butt. < 1387527974 280587 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1387527990 318522 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You pause to examine the platform. You imagine it can be used to go to the higher level, but you have no interest in that right now. There is only Sandwich. < 1387527994 863504 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: It isn't supposed to be _|_ that is just the ASCII format of it. < 1387528032 182316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⊥ < 1387528068 964960 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A chorus of voices erupt. WELCOME TO THE PLATFORM ROOM, they say. YOU CAN USE THIS PLATFORM TO ASCEND AND DESCEND, BUT ONLY WITHIN THIS ROOM. You examine the platform and imagine that the voices are correct, but you wonder if that too isn't just a delusion brought on by the drug. < 1387528125 887604 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's a MUD I imagine you'll have to have descriptions for lots of situations, like if a character has ingested a "drug" (actually a nanomachine cocktail, but they don't know that) to induce schizotypal behavior so that they can infiltrate the platform-building cult. < 1387528173 7981 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I mean, they could have taken the drug just for kicks. You can reuse the description. < 1387528192 502361 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This MUD does have recreational drugs, right? < 1387528196 902286 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The MUD isn't made up entirely by myself either, some some areas and items are. < 1387528218 843644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And as far as I know there aren't any drugs, but I didn't see everything so maybe someone did make up such a thing in there too. < 1387528235 853676 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No harm in planning ahead, then. < 1387528245 366020 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vis a vis #drugz. < 1387528366 320093 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You examine the platform, but you have no particular skill in discerning uses of objects. You guess that it's magical, since it's hovering a bit above the ground, but it's not marked or anything to indicate that. As you stare it jiggles invitingly. < 1387528483 853144 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Characters may have different skillsets, see. < 1387528565 493731 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK. Yes maybe some characters might fly, too, in which case you don't need to use such a hovering platform. And some character might have a moldy scroll to teleport into someone else's location (only of the location they happen to be in has "jumpok" flag set, though). < 1387528595 408762 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there can be other skillsets too < 1387528673 459761 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds complicated. < 1387528815 420096 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't help but scoff at the platform. You remember when you were a trainee, and had to use these platforms to get around. They were so slow and always breaking down. You hop in the air a bit, just to mock the memory represented before you. < 1387529030 150419 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You consider the platform before you, and in return it considers you. Without asking you know that it is only a tool. Its awareness only extends as far as passengers and a concept of height. It can't even control that, you notice disdainfully. < 1387529057 847515 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's for any characters with the psychic power of panpsychism who are also assholes. < 1387529101 920560 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an asshole stat? < 1387529132 659315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone can make up whatever stats you want using the @field command, so such a thing is possible. < 1387529150 304529 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very forward-thinking. < 1387529166 695509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@field hugs < 1387529166 884265 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1387529180 924636 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a hugs field? < 1387529191 186791 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(However there is some exceptions, such as field names starting with a dot, and a few other fields don't work with it either, but most do.) < 1387529204 48040 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@field rationals < 1387529204 236769 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1387529213 543897 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Again, it is possible to make one up; you can make up whatever field you want (with a few exceptions). < 1387529226 136574 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well has someone alreayd made it up? < 1387529247 740613 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so, but I can't see everything! < 1387529247 966225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have < 1387529249 463034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :see above < 1387529282 192609 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can write descriptions for a game you're not administrating? < 1387529314 737612 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or have you just been wasting my time. < 1387529342 303263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: p. sure only one person here has been wasting your time < 1387529352 98857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it isn't zzo38 (or me) < 1387529368 407578 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously a hugs field isn't a waste of time. < 1387529376 973528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hug zzo38 < 1387529377 162274 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/newticket?type=bug < 1387529381 143154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: (do you like hugs) < 1387529405 712274 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes it is possible, in that MUD anyways it is possible. < 1387529450 994381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if i'm ever in vancouver can i hug you < 1387529452 784473 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAVE YOU JUST BEEN WASTING MY TIME?! you angrily shout at the platform. IS THIS ALL A JOKE TO YOU? < 1387529454 52471 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone with the 'builder' flag set on themself can create objects. Anyone who isn't guest can set fields and stuff on themself and anything they created. Also, everyone who isn't guests automatically has the 'builder' flag set anyways. < 1387529457 231962 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hugz 4ever < 1387529460 177172 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's if you have a nethack-like hallucination effect. < 1387529465 283463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You can try, but I doubt it. < 1387529470 655702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1387529480 827230 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You doubt hugs? < 1387529525 745643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean I doubt you will be in the same place (even if it is the same city), and I might try to stop you anyways < 1387529538 977242 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you don't like hugs? < 1387529543 920566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if i'm ever in middle of nowhere, wa can i hug you < 1387529562 347069 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, i guess. i'm pretty awkward. < 1387529643 793318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i mention that some russian people took my javascript gif player and added audio support using a custom audio block they added to gif < 1387529661 339360 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now they have a file format for animated pictures along with audio < 1387529669 317756 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coo < 1387529675 409395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. innovative < 1387529766 6870 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387529865 504757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get so many .ru referers < 1387529870 902811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most of them are referer spam :' < 1387529871 641446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :( < 1387529885 432607 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387530020 7471 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387530028 433209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :referer spam is terrible < 1387530051 253771 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do spammers have no honour < 1387530165 373368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does referer spam work < 1387530221 280686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :people make fake requests to your website using some referer < 1387530403 751266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why tho < 1387530418 2325 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess because people look at their referers? < 1387530431 543192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't they do something else with their time < 1387530449 772101 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it exciting when people talk about you < 1387530457 662164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it < 1387530474 742144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes < 1387530497 547560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted to make a thing so i could watch people using my website in realtime < 1387530505 594465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and open a chat box and so on < 1387530551 802121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i have the feeling i wouldn't care to talk to most of my referals < 1387530554 829868 :farrioth!~farrioth@236.69.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387531846 950835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1387531989 592033 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1387532079 728069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome hauke < 1387532082 581104 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08hauke: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02irc.dal.net.) < 1387532098 854399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i'm too tired for this < 1387532184 461791 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :09oo03h,10 s11hi12ny02 c06ol13or04s < 1387532192 949609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello mauke < 1387532195 435613 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :maukello < 1387532363 899583 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-9-192.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387532364 88416 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-9-192.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1387532364 88564 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387532866 554220 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/DJbB stat-time < 1387532958 891118 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For 201*, commands containing l, c, m in that order, some of the ones ending in : were probably replies.) < 1387532967 371168 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387533046 342188 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-9-192.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387533083 391420 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-9-192.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1387533083 619813 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387533121 618815 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(relcome still has some catching up to do.) < 1387533154 737268 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1387533186 274766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tervetuloa fizzie < 1387533187 436911 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: tervetuloa: not found < 1387533190 419886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1387533198 38940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: please fix thx < 1387533309 449939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, lots are missing. < 1387533332 533771 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :the german welcome in https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf has a comma that shouldn't be there < 1387533384 123463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387533413 575632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? willkommen < 1387533415 560428 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Willkommen beim internationalen Zentrum für das Design und die Implementierung esoterischer Programmiersprachen! Für weitere Informationen, besuchen Sie das Wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Für andere Arten der Esoterik gibt es #esoteric auf irc.dal.net.) < 1387533423 583167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat wisdom/willkommen < 1387533425 100732 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Willkommen beim internationalen Zentrum für das Design und die Implementierung esoterischer Programmiersprachen! Für weitere Informationen, besuchen Sie das Wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Für andere Arten der Esoterik gibt es #esoteric auf irc.dal.net.) < 1387533448 489218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :☝ can be fixed in HackEgo < 1387533468 324580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, even preflex is here. This is great. < 1387533537 673364 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: help re < 1387533537 862588 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : re "REGEX" STRING - test STRING against REGEX < 1387533542 331007 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1387533595 95250 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387533629 685119 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: re ".{.*}." asdf < 1387533629 876131 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : match: [0-4: asdf] [0:1-3: sd] < 1387533644 794628 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, it still works < 1387533674 46396 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A multitude of bots. < 1387533688 704719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Go ahead, say hello. < 1387533689 152655 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and i think sicp or something. away, trying to focus on matters more relevant to making everything a set. now he wants it above the definition < 1387533751 626435 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex's re command uses the regex engine from ploki < 1387533788 249745 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387533920 94955 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387534110 318298 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run welcome | hyphenate.fi # shachaf: close enough? < 1387534112 694358 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wel-co-me to the in-ter-na-ti-o-nal hub for e-so-te-ric prog-ram-ming lan-gu-a-ge de-sign and dep-lo-y-ment! For mo-re in-for-ma-ti-on, check out our wi-ki: . (For the ot-her kind of e-so-te-ri-ca, try #e-so-te-ric on irc.dal.net.) < 1387534185 392062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l bin/hyfinate; cat bin/hyfinate < 1387534187 308728 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 12 Sep 25 13:06 bin/hyfinate -> hyphenate.fi \ #!/bin/sh \ exec perl -CS -Mutf8 -pwe 'my$vow=qr/[aeiouyäö]/i;my$con=qr/[b-df-hj-np-tv-xz]/i;1while s/($vow$con*)($con$vow)/$1-$2/g;1while s/a[eoyäö]|e[aoäö]|i[aoäö]|o[aeyäö]|u[aeyäö]|y[aeouä]|ä[aeouö]|ö[aeouä]/my@s=split"",$&;$s[0]."-".$s[1]/egi' < 1387534195 545578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite. < 1387534197 527398 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume prog ramming refers to the jousts. < 1387534209 121816 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :-CS? bold move < 1387534448 340156 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/sh \ exec perl < 1387534653 285312 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run head -n 1 bin/* | grep -a '^#!' | sed -e 's/! /!/;s/ .*//' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr < 1387534655 398721 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 64 #!/bin/sh \ 25 #!/bin/bash \ 13 #!/usr/bin/env \ 10 #!/usr/bin/perl \ 3 #!/usr/bin/python \ 2 #!/hackenv/bin/lua \ 1 #!/usr/bin/tail \ 1 #!/hackenv/bin/rec \ 1 #!/bin/true < 1387534673 881964 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/true: best interpreter. < 1387534690 16671 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like /bin/cat myself < 1387534713 653034 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :every program a quine < 1387534719 28124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never complains, unlike those so-called programming languages tend to. < 1387534728 187951 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :ploki never complains either < 1387534743 442892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/cat < 1387534751 253452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :internal cat error < 1387534797 408455 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep bin/true bin/* < 1387534799 52438 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/listen:#!/bin/true < 1387534804 41630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/listen < 1387534805 272614 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/true < 1387535034 368796 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`listen < 1387535035 536781 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387535049 644104 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ' ' < 1387535051 42644 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387535076 191323 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run beep < 1387535077 485767 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: beep: command not found < 1387535172 669879 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'\xe2\x81\xa3' < 1387535174 189281 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⁣ < 1387535450 832565 :stuntaneous!~stuntaneo@2001:1af8:4700:a000:10:: QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387535517 991969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, advertising that "the GUI is themeable" is probably a strong negative signal on the quality of software < 1387535565 195801 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :inb4 audio cock < 1387536045 104989 :impomatic!~john_metc@14.233.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387537041 18424 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387537159 50181 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387538585 111870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1387539069 54453 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387539119 204188 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387539544 599773 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387539578 997367 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387539639 182323 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387539650 610227 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1387539650 811911 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1387539655 442491 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I'm atriq < 1387539657 85488 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1387539753 940426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wii shachaf < 1387539755 234825 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wii: not found < 1387539757 349196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1387539785 156211 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wii Shachaf, the unannounced successor of Wii U. < 1387539812 739193 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Everyone's going to want one.) < 1387539820 911362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: oh, http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ioun_Stone <-- i don't think burlew has paid attention to the shapes listed. < 1387539870 790718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the colors are hard to determine. i guess blackwing snatched an orange one. < 1387539886 910362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i somehow wouldn't think laurin the type to have a deep red one. < 1387539915 325481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and exactly which green variant is that... < 1387539929 162999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe he's not paid much attention to the colors either. < 1387539929 365567 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387540027 846199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION steps by the oots forum
< 1387540063 88572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION remembers he had food he was supposed to eat
< 1387540107 165371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mistyped a / < 1387540611 213699 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387540803 626152 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387540919 760971 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387540943 94176 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387541038 39727 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387541123 979559 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387542384 29897 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387542408 624560 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387542559 110931 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387542690 145801 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387542789 273223 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/1taral/why_do_theorems_in_complex_analysis_feels/ < 1387542803 412761 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :cauchy's theorem op, plz nerf < 1387543030 37994 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387543059 956669 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also : Stokes theorem < 1387543444 432321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387543686 412597 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello Alex < 1387544152 495588 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387544157 827919 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387544163 79676 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily < 1387544233 583857 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia. < 1387544267 347755 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get up < 1387544275 444804 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION glares at quintopia
< 1387544308 765228 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1387544309 820159 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 201250Z 03014KT 3SM -SN DRSN OVC040 M07/M09 A3002 RMK NS8 SLP169 < 1387544373 750323 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar MDPC < 1387544374 806154 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDPC 201300Z 09012KT 9999 FEW019 27/22 Q1018 < 1387544390 454704 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhhh < 1387544430 330051 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1387544431 439635 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 201250Z 23009KT 9999 FEW014 03/02 Q1010 NOSIG < 1387544454 799154 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhere in-between. < 1387544886 901574 :CADD_!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387544924 885928 :CADD_!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Client Quit < 1387545374 104559 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387545539 960207 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387546127 478565 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want some snow already < 1387546131 525621 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESSA < 1387546131 915874 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSA 201320Z 18012KT CAVOK 03/00 Q1009 R01L/29//95 R08/29//95 R01R/29//95 NOSIG < 1387546150 650797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ENVA < 1387546152 853250 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 201320Z 09005KT CAVOK M01/M03 Q0999 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 16011KT < 1387546169 218304 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: we're undergoing our second snowstorm right now. < 1387546209 726016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no snow forecast for christmas here < 1387546274 800540 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1387546275 364941 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 201324Z 03016KT 1SM R06L/P6000FT/D R06R/P6000FT/D -SN DRSN OVC020 M08/M09 A3002 RMK SN2NS6 SLP168 < 1387546423 122499 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, TIL (from comp.lang.c) that the numeric constant "0" in C is in octal < 1387546439 590579 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it doesn't really matter < 1387546442 81092 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still funny < 1387546470 545250 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that kind of makes sense < 1387546482 850342 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... it doesn't change nothing! < 1387546903 945016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387546919 706775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387546932 32557 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387546975 830653 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387547305 944504 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quoth < 1387547307 454412 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387547315 480111 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quoth something < 1387547317 113692 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387547329 947190 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quoth the Raven < 1387547331 589652 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387547335 410675 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bo. ring. < 1387547671 642888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/quoth < 1387547673 97804 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :allquotes | grep -i "<$1>" | shuf | head -n 1 < 1387547686 663323 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll grep you < 1387547691 82562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quoth boily < 1387547692 826255 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1097) I prefer goat memory. I feel it's more reliable, like a vinyl over a CD. < 1387547734 43841 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a useless use of head. < 1387547747 20112 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well goats are cute < 1387547825 192603 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i -e 's/| head //' bin/quoth # gonna bork it up somehow... < 1387547828 833087 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387547832 452227 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/quoth < 1387547833 815739 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :allquotes | grep -i "<$1>" | shuf -n 1 < 1387547844 930159 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1387547850 432150 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fungot was I thinking about when I mentioned “goat memory”... < 1387547850 803192 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i just like the last one worked, at which point it is all pattern matching and generally the ppl good at that < 1387547889 214168 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goat memory is all pattern matching, anyway. < 1387547904 311272 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially with tincans < 1387549209 748915 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you need to implement a new language based on goat memory < 1387549261 983482 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1387549304 208240 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why do star trek wikis have entries for goat < 1387549313 566824 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I. Was just looking at that. < 1387549319 771037 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Goat < 1387549331 575886 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are goats in the star trek universe < 1387549388 447319 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: you really need to stop copying me < 1387549393 995082 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shush < 1387549410 497287 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Jackal < 1387549412 258305 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387549733 12589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a "Jackal" entry on NetHackWiki too < 1387549760 699102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it redirects to "Canine" < 1387549763 612063 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nethack does have jackals, though < 1387549765 559024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's not enough to write about jackals on their own < 1387549766 152475 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, DF < 1387549806 978146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Jackal ← an uncaninedirected roguewiki jackalian entry < 1387549824 418353 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daw < 1387549867 49096 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387550757 903991 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387551773 634233 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dhelloesthiswork. mrhmoushello. < 1387552254 275898 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :belloily < 1387553151 456316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 6 < 1387553153 530042 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0036 DIGIT SIX] < 1387553165 165040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought so < 1387553168 71549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is my printf lying < 1387553179 73786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%c\n", 0x3f); < 1387553184 928618 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? < 1387553189 222685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's more believable < 1387553255 891782 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got the best exception message. < 1387553276 622874 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the entire message: The length of the parameter 'Ȁbit᨞䀀眀攀攀欀攀渀搀䠀漀甀爀猀Ȁ
Ȃ؀戀椀琀툀Ỹ@eĂȀbitᐞ䀀洀椀挀爀漀猀椀琀攀Ȁ
ᘂЀÈ < 1387553409 61847 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah. < 1387553446 558093 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got it while calling DeriveParameters on a SqlCommand object (.NET code). < 1387553465 308938 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best part - it only happens the _third_ time I call DeriveParameters. Consistently. < 1387553469 90379 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the command to tell gdb to reread a save file? < 1387553510 473364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, a source file < 1387553564 930962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, using "directory" with a directory that's already there works < 1387553699 182479 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387553700 465202 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387553758 855510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: byeily < 1387554020 701633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 0x7f7f < 1387554022 380585 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown character. < 1387554490 968973 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn34-196.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387554500 335949 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+7f7f < 1387554501 913308 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown character. < 1387554609 887331 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 罿 < 1387554611 247737 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown character. < 1387554632 687006 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joys of using rxvt-unicode! you can hold ctrl-shift, and type the codepoint) < 1387554645 33375 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 罿 < 1387554646 439727 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+7F7F CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-7F7F] < 1387554712 756116 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 쫾몾 < 1387554714 387270 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+CAFE HANGUL SYLLABLE JJWAELM] [U+BABE HANGUL SYLLABLE MOJ] < 1387554894 962186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess `unicode should also accept code points (in flexible formats) addition to character names. < 1387554904 891212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-7F7F < 1387554906 339596 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​罿 < 1387554912 587222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I typoed it in Emacs < 1387554921 253099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thought it looked pretty < 1387555084 466513 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387555103 672797 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither nciku nor wwwjdic have any info on it. the first hit on google is a page in Chinese → http://www.zdic.net/z/21/js/7F7F.htm < 1387555134 797274 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! wiktionary has it → https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E7%BD%BF < 1387555154 207937 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Definition in English: net catch birds", says gucharmap < 1387555193 593227 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, U+7F7F is the net result of the birds you caught after taxes and fees. < 1387556668 118309 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric : ​? < 1387556678 294492 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're EgoBot, not EdBot, darn it. < 1387556824 252820 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1387556894 90078 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387558850 766382 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387558889 932330 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387560266 557851 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys, why do programmers always think christmas is halloween? < 1387560274 448097 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because 31 oct = 25 dec < 1387560354 710102 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because programmers are 1) idiots and 2) notoriously bad at implemeting datetime to iso standards < 1387560363 703149 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think only one person ever has managed it < 1387560587 746526 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the best comeback to that joke I've ever seen. < 1387561290 311412 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1387561447 793641 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1387561797 281951 :conehead_!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387561805 95239 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1387561812 203405 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any simple stack based languages < 1387561814 128778 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like forth < 1387561816 408480 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but other than forth < 1387561820 440994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Underload? < 1387561894 934819 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :joy? < 1387561955 11619 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :joy's not that simple < 1387561962 227402 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it is very, very stack based < 1387562016 568496 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s k i combinators then < 1387562135 407376 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki is full of such things < 1387562152 308970 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's full of BF derivatives < 1387562158 491295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a stack-based category, though, I think < 1387562219 285520 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: stack-based BF derivatives! < 1387562235 266312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF-PDA ← there you go < 1387562250 815898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's intentionally sub-TC < 1387562724 212050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ski < 1387562727 137982 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13ski: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.) < 1387562728 504511 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome atrapado < 1387562730 823063 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09atrapado: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06irc.dal.net.) < 1387562794 992761 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1387562879 747432 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-163.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387562920 635307 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(SKI-combinators is not stack based) < 1387563005 379191 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there combinators for stack manipulation? < 1387563140 15148 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kitten and Factor aren't very simple either < 1387563166 954610 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge has stacks < 1387563249 33601 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, see underload < 1387563401 586866 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: highly relevant: http://tunes.org/~iepos/joy.html < 1387563494 334697 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: indeed. < 1387563503 851166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: veryndeed. < 1387563565 99101 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey. unit is pure/return/unit/arr... < 1387563569 337456 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-163.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387563689 703737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski on SKI < 1387563691 272046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waves
< 1387563734 671347 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION observes kmc
< 1387564110 161814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1387564792 784784 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1387564803 377360 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1387564804 892742 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :lo kmc < 1387564807 570943 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for a with reasonable effort portable to the .NET plattform language < 1387564815 508743 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has not already been ported to it < 1387564862 731908 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily : you forgot `/eta/η' < 1387564870 77678 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and `arr' is a bit different) < 1387564938 803923 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. are is arr, fsvo arr. < 1387564956 342016 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are three COBOL implementations for the JVM. mroman, your course is clear < 1387565264 31490 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hells no < 1387565299 83720 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hells yes. < 1387565343 517610 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387565354 619474 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, is it all right if I monologue about software interfacing? Okay, great. < 1387565371 982161 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1387565396 916574 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arufonsu: I don't mind; see if someone does though after you write something other than just asking if it is OK or not < 1387565411 597810 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently, the lingua franca of computing is C. A library is portable across languages if you can write a C header file for it. < 1387565420 942327 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arufonsu: I have no problem with that, as long as the rant is in French. < 1387565426 73282 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, hi!) < 1387565430 63710 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo, C. < 1387565435 467170 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I want it to be in English! < 1387565436 840017 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the lingua franca should probably be a better language COBOL < 1387565449 185372 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: watch yer tongue, ye be speakin' forbidden phrases. < 1387565468 649955 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Loi 101! < 1387565473 997541 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :COBOL is the Windows ME of programming languages. < 1387565556 257094 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever even seen a cobol program < 1387565569 477294 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have. < 1387565584 434399 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have even written a bit of COBOL. < 1387565655 288503 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you assemble every capital letter ever written chronologically in all of the programming languages, they form the Ultimate Transformer Cobol Program! < 1387565676 288861 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah! < 1387565699 223079 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing a C header file isn't enough; also you should have the programs to work between the different programming languages as necessary. For example to allow a function from some other library to work in SQL (specifically, SQLite), you still need to write a C code to load the SQL functions and translate the data types into those used by the function and used in SQL databases. < 1387565714 13868 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/kmcallister/1ca57f7a260c72d36d96 just look at this elegance < 1387565716 822958 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct. < 1387565737 183054 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's horrifying. < 1387565772 800205 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: SQLite isn't a programming language, though. I don't think SQLite itself provides a means to import foreign functions, does it? < 1387565780 309618 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :horrifying with no advancing < 1387565781 512502 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapleach himself.
< 1387565791 643222 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arufonsu: last I checked, no. < 1387565799 371008 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arufonsu: It does, although you have to write the importing in a C code, not in a SQL code. And, SQL is a programming language. < 1387565837 517366 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: writing a C header file is usually enough for other languages. < 1387565851 756994 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387565854 104133 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl, python, etc. < 1387565860 848867 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what surprises me is that github has COBOL highlighting, but not cabal highlighting. < 1387565886 784239 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Haskell at least, you need to also write the Haskell code to deal with it, although you don't need to write another C code. < 1387565888 581583 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :COWSEL looks ok < 1387565959 493861 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that's how it is in other languages too, and they each have varying degrees of layering between you and the header file. < 1387565966 443472 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it looks like it's difficult to get any documentation about it < 1387565970 279907 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl for example can use raw header files. < 1387565981 920192 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, thing is, a C header file pretty much describes ways bytes can go each direction. But with many if not most programming languages, objects can't just be turned into bytes and back, since the runtime environment keeps track of object metadata. < 1387566101 96573 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387566108 828650 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1387566119 196796 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your context has been lost. < 1387566160 847413 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arufonsu: Yes, although they may have data structures that have pointers to keep track of, and may need the code to tell it how to do. < 1387566171 796338 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, suppose you have a Haskell function String -> String. If you want C code to be able to access it, could you just give the C code a pointer to the function and provide it a way to call the function? < 1387566196 229912 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really, because then you never know when the C code is done using the function, so you don't know when to garbage collect it. < 1387566300 697272 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, dealing with callbacks like that can be difficult due to those reasons you specify. < 1387566433 949175 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the One True Model of computing is an actor model, where there are a bunch of objects, and objects can perform actions, and objects are only ever created or deleted manually. < 1387566503 291490 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conceptually, perhaps every object in a Haskell system implements the GarbageCollectableObject interface, and the garbage collector has a reference to every single one of those objects. < 1387566574 179658 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one true model of computing is an agent system. < 1387566574 956211 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obv. < 1387566579 166778 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. That. < 1387566583 815542 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some things that use callbacks can also be done without callbacks in whatever way work for the programming language in use, or using a different kinds of callbacks. < 1387566587 467300 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actor, agent, same cotton candy. < 1387566620 714101 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1387566627 617745 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actor != agent. < 1387566654 855460 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* I don't know what the difference is, and I don't know which one I mean. < 1387566679 796342 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an actor model and an agent model specify opposite approaches. < 1387566697 427183 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an actor model is essentially a message passing system. < 1387566741 293857 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :being passive, it's only active once there is data flowing in. < 1387566758 77119 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you want to access some Haskell object from C, you could just access it directly, but it might vanish at any time. Instead, I suppose you'd want to create a GarbageCollectableObject yourself, informing the garbage collector of its existence, and telling the garbage collector it has a reference to the object you're interested in. < 1387566806 35481 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what's an agent model, then? < 1387566839 611987 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a Haskell code you could create a context (perhaps using a monad) that contains the data and things you need, might be one possibility < 1387566926 340858 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1387567015 526612 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387567053 531744 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like agents are a lot like system processes. < 1387567062 523476 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct. < 1387567066 926313 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can run spontaneously and access globally-named resources. < 1387567070 797916 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1387567073 219506 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But whether you want enumerations, events, etc you may want different ways in a different programming language. For example in SQL, if you want the function to make a list of results, you can define a virtual table to do that, perhaps. < 1387567089 5141 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're effectively separate processing units. < 1387567094 968465 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :acting continuously on an environment. < 1387567109 266947 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can take input and give output from and to the environment. < 1387567144 906622 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, happy tune → http://protodome.bandcamp.com/track/oh-i-feel-just-fine-because-im-making-macaroni < 1387567168 565905 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, my gut reaction is to say I like the actor model better. < 1387567177 211885 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ActorVsAgent < 1387567312 12782 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, it seems like there's pretty much a certain, specific set of extra stuff that runtime environments might give to objects. < 1387567398 468429 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Garbage collection is the main one. If you had an OS where all the objects on the system use a single garbage collector, then runtime environments wouldn't need to worry about that, and you could freely pass references between environments without worrying about garbage collection. < 1387568033 767809 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I once made a list of fancy features that environments have. Along these lines: garbage collection, concurrency, access control, persistence. < 1387568075 387076 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noted that no system seems to have all of them. Lua has garbage collection and access control, but not concurrency or persistence. Lua is one of the few environments that has access control. < 1387568090 602944 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smalltalk has garbage collection, concurrency, and persistence, but not access control. Smalltalk is one of the few environments that has persistence. < 1387568110 528724 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Unix itself has concurrency, access control, and persistence. But it doesn't have any kind of system-wide garbage collection. < 1387568168 911650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of things have system-wide refcounting though < 1387568221 984188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Linux kernel has a garbage collector to deal with sending UNIX sockets through other UNIX sockets < 1387568368 264997 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1387568406 537525 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think sending sockets through sockets was a thing < 1387568416 892699 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, using Unix domain sockets, can a more privileged process send a file handle or whatever to a less privileged process, thereby allowing the less privileged process to access a file it wouldn't normally be able to? < 1387568615 677519 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387568795 260082 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arufonsu: believe so, yes < 1387568801 248761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this lets you do capability-like things < 1387568819 64308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: you can send any file descriptor through a socket < 1387568876 667422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also send a struct with your uid and gid in such a way that it can't be forged < 1387568892 743073 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this allows a more-privileged daemon to authenticate requests from less-privileged users and then do things on their behalf < 1387568924 269934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a friend of mine argued convincingly that all setuid programs should be replaced with such daemons < 1387569049 753589 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also use something like linux's more advanced permissions < 1387569591 591495 :conehead_!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387570187 296198 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, with Linux, if I want a bunch of processes that can't interact with each other or anything that isn't world-accessible, can I just give them all UIDs that are otherwise unused? < 1387570354 429373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can still interact in lots of ways < 1387570996 478423 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387571304 765601 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, true, but they can't damage each other, right? < 1387571312 287661 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except by using up lots of system resources or something, maybe... < 1387571320 113030 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387571326 334807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or exploiting security holes in each other or the kernel < 1387571410 758404 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exploiting holes in each other shouldn't be possible if they have no access to each other whatsoever < 1387571416 202349 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kernel, maybe < 1387571429 738687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's my point, processes have lots of access to each otehr < 1387571447 379129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example they share a filesystem, a network subsystem, etc < 1387571474 739947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to strongly isolate things then you need stuff like cgroups and the various namespaces (pid, network, mount, etc.) < 1387572253 450681 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387572265 779019 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you saying there are different pid namespaces? < 1387572273 839143 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorhello < 1387572284 623611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Linux? yes, it has all kinds of namespace stuff http://lwn.net/Articles/531114/ < 1387572293 174927 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1387572293 364676 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1387572465 94205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1387572523 887929 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang. Namespaces look really cool. < 1387572744 249233 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then it looks like LXC is an application that actually uses them to provide a virtual Linux environment within another Linux environment. Is that right? < 1387572794 329531 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whelp, I like the E programming language. < 1387572817 717543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arufonsu: i believe so < 1387572828 364944 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has access control and concurrency. You figure it probably has garbage collection, right? And I feel like it's likely to have persistence as well. < 1387572991 311142 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :LXC is one such application; there are more. < 1387573147 797940 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387573280 79350 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387573423 775293 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn34-196.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387573595 623310 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1387573596 56341 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 202024Z 03010G15KT 3/4SM R06L/5000VP6000FT/D R06R/6000FT/D -SN VV006 M07/M09 A2997 RMK SN8 SLP150 < 1387573609 900474 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, VV! haven't seen that on since last winter :D < 1387573633 36096 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EGNT < 1387573633 453723 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGNT 202050Z 21021G38KT 180V240 9999 -RA SCT015 BKN020 10/07 Q1000 < 1387573647 202190 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still can't read it but I like looking at it < 1387573662 246662 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KGRR < 1387573662 635040 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KGRR 202053Z 07007KT 3SM -FZRA BR OVC007 01/M01 A2976 RMK AO2 SLP084 P0000 60007 T00061011 56006 $ < 1387573679 150620 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, I don't know what that means. < 1387573680 907138 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arufonsu: michigan? < 1387573684 659520 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yeah. < 1387573736 367243 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arufonsu: your weather says: report issued at 8:53pm UTC today, 7 knot east-north-east winds, ground visibility 3 mi, light freezing rain, fog... < 1387573753 164199 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :01/M01? So the temperature is 1 C and the frost point is -1 C? < 1387573761 993749 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/frost/dew/ < 1387573791 421409 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't they pretty much the same thing, except frost is frozen and dew isn't? < 1387573834 402577 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're surface water. < 1387573868 107565 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, your station needs maintenance (the “$” at the end) < 1387573880 89701 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, what does mine say? < 1387573915 555374 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd better go tell them. < 1387573964 302820 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what's the significance of the dew point below freezing? < 1387573981 372443 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: report at 8:50pm UTC, quite a lot of wind (21 knots, gusts at 38 knots) from the southwest, ground visibility OK, light rain, scattered clouds at 1500', broken clouds at 2000', 10 °C, dew point at 7 °C, QNH at 1000 hPa. < 1387574012 35035 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arufonsu: it's... below freezing, I guess. I think I'll have to research more details about dew point. < 1387574055 904424 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but surely no dew is going to form if it's below freezing. < 1387574089 848730 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably «givre», then. < 1387574099 460910 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, “If the dew point is below freezing (32°F or 0°C), we instead use the term frost point.” ← http://geography.about.com/od/physicalgeography/a/dewpoint.htm < 1387574149 418869 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“there is nothing special about the temperature being below freezong or below zero... solid ice (frost) rather than as liquid water” ← http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/wea00/wea00061.htm < 1387574988 412385 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: STORM CHICKEN < 1387575000 286701 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387575165 971735 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387575441 349125 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387575690 982446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:21:31:* kmc waves < 1387575691 217519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:22:14:* boily observes kmc < 1387575698 680857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so, do you feel particularly collapsed? < 1387575754 96843 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i get it < 1387575800 227443 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-163.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387576038 909096 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wavefunctions have stagefright, so when they're observed, they just collapse like babies. < 1387576101 450496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what you're doing to them, LinearInterpol, but i don't think babies usually collapse. < 1387576117 648038 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm a bad parent. < 1387576121 531705 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, they usually expand. < 1387576124 988927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have you observed them < 1387576125 703445 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Albeit slowly. < 1387576133 211379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it has happened. < 1387576187 121218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :babies look so much like humans < 1387576188 456505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird < 1387576248 28723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: did you ever fix willkommen < 1387576326 915956 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's almost as if they *were* humans < 1387576567 580632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i think they are like pokemons that can evolve into humans. < 1387576581 275086 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how? < 1387576593 761425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? willkommen < 1387576596 2818 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Willkommen beim internationalen Zentrum für das Design und die Implementierung esoterischer Programmiersprachen! Für weitere Informationen, besuchen Sie das Wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Für andere Arten der Esoterik gibt es #esoteric auf irc.dal.net.) < 1387576600 100626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably `run sed -i '...' wisdom/willkommen # or something < 1387576607 557364 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know sed < 1387576613 585404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl? < 1387576620 265597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there is only one comma is there. < 1387576621 791479 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -v < 1387576623 543524 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ This is perl, v5.10.1 (*) built for x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi \ (with 61 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail) \ \ Copyright 1987-2009, Larry Wall \ \ Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the \ GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source kit. \ \ Complete documenta < 1387576628 37816 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :ancient < 1387576637 687890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/,//' wisdom/willkommen < 1387576641 224695 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387576644 350529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? willkommen < 1387576646 487246 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Willkommen beim internationalen Zentrum für das Design und die Implementierung esoterischer Programmiersprachen! Für weitere Informationen besuchen Sie das Wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Für andere Arten der Esoterik gibt es #esoteric auf irc.dal.net.) < 1387576648 287386 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better? < 1387576664 689044 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e 'BEGIN{%::=()}' < 1387576665 946367 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault < 1387576678 296794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's p. good < 1387576688 379572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a monkey < 1387576690 992146 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e 'fork while fork' < 1387576696 576958 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387576700 284571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks oerjan < 1387576701 483621 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, oerjan. Thoerjan. < 1387576703 869369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e '420 fork everyday' < 1387576705 281110 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bareword found where operator expected at -e line 1, near "fork everyday" \ (Do you need to predeclare fork?) \ syntax error at -e line 1, near "420 fork" \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. < 1387576708 774994 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fork erryday. < 1387576721 943469 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :360 segfault. < 1387576731 28436 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e '%::=()' < 1387576732 365237 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387576734 184943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reminds everyone of the `perl-e command
< 1387576739 316054 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perle < 1387576744 876453 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl . < 1387576746 352837 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387576765 604334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl-e print "Yo!" < 1387576767 76441 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yo! < 1387576779 354523 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387576785 955877 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl-E say 2 < 1387576787 251862 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: perl-E: not found < 1387576792 744616 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrible < 1387576806 189297 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ping google.com < 1387576806 475351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/perl-e < 1387576807 431620 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1387576807 767752 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ \ perl -e "$@" < 1387576843 846559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '2d' bin/perl-e < 1387576847 679148 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387576853 723829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/perl-e < 1387576855 148558 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ perl -e "$@" < 1387576868 954889 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl-e is this all one argument? < 1387576870 543250 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error at -e line 1, at EOF \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. < 1387576895 379939 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: that's the idea. < 1387576915 51081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1387576915 322534 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1387576952 480119 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcc --version < 1387576953 838776 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc (Debian 4.4.5-8) 4.4.5 \ Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO \ warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. < 1387576984 110532 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://mauke.hopto.org/stuff/ploki/ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 < 1387576988 649001 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-12-20 22:03:07 URL:http://mauke.hopto.org/stuff/ploki/ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 [77308/77308] -> "ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2" [1] < 1387576999 351185 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 < 1387577000 739342 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387577000 942484 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :BZh91AY&SY;|���R�������������������z%�&�u�'o�0 \ �a���|=��A{�s... ..>�Hm�`>�:.��c^==�"Z��.�m���Z�W�{�Cǣ�(1��.�.�w�>�ӆ�UݾJ < 1387577009 965826 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387577042 302845 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tar xfj ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 < 1387577043 666452 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar: Old option `f' requires an argument. \ Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information. < 1387577057 27937 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tar xjf ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 < 1387577058 193057 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar: Old option `f' requires an argument. \ Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information. < 1387577061 123043 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1387577074 464037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tar xjf ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 < 1387577078 689536 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387577126 811617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that work in some version of tar? < 1387577178 443892 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd ploki-0.6.5.1 && gcc -O2 -o ploki *.c -lm < 1387577179 851307 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: line 0: cd: ploki-0.6.5.1: No such file or directory < 1387577206 284463 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd ploki && gcc -O2 -o ploki *.c -lm < 1387577237 396859 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387577253 930937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo No output. < 1387577255 376124 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387577257 255045 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp ploki/ploki bin/ < 1387577258 708171 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp: cannot stat `ploki/ploki': No such file or directory < 1387577263 869060 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1387577300 392638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think compilation failed. < 1387577342 515066 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f is old? < 1387577372 316671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, mesozoic < 1387577392 712214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ploki < 1387577395 340499 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :atechit.c \ atechit.depend \ atechit.h \ atechit.o \ Compile \ compile.c \ compile.depend \ compile.h \ compile.o \ config.h \ deparse.c \ deparse.depend \ deparse.h \ deparse.o \ doc \ examples \ expr.c \ expr.depend \ expr.h \ expr.o \ GNUmakefile \ hang.c \ hang.depend \ hang.h \ hang.o \ hash.c \ hash.depend \ hash.h \ hash.o \ IGNORE \ inc.c \ < 1387577438 11853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls ploki | tail < 1387577453 59541 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :version.c \ version.c.in \ version.depend \ version.h \ xmalloc.c \ xmalloc.depend \ xmalloc.h \ zz.c \ zz.depend \ zz.h < 1387577466 658414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls ploki | grep -v '\.c' < 1387577471 572175 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :atechit.depend \ atechit.h \ atechit.o \ Compile \ compile.depend \ compile.h \ compile.o \ config.h \ deparse.depend \ deparse.h \ deparse.o \ doc \ examples \ expr.depend \ expr.h \ expr.o \ GNUmakefile \ hang.depend \ hang.h \ hang.o \ hash.depend \ hash.h \ hash.o \ IGNORE \ inc.depend \ inc.h \ inc.o \ indent \ IO.depend \ IO.h \ IO.o \ kork.d < 1387577482 826007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls ploki | grep -v '\.[cho]' < 1387577484 747167 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :atechit.depend \ Compile \ compile.depend \ deparse.depend \ doc \ examples \ expr.depend \ GNUmakefile \ hang.depend \ hash.depend \ IGNORE \ inc.depend \ indent \ IO.depend \ kork.depend \ list.depend \ main.depend \ Makefile \ MakeSkel \ mars.depend \ match.depend \ op.depend \ opt.depend \ parse.depend \ ploki \ pp.depend \ random.depend \ READ < 1387577486 505991 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp ploki/ploki bin/ < 1387577490 741949 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387577518 298723 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ploki -MO=Deparse /dev/null < 1387577519 978191 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387577540 873364 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then < 1387577572 698790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you ran make in privmsg < 1387577577 706521 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'"Hello, world!' | ploki < 1387577579 39207 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1387577670 226526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: is that working? < 1387577684 189761 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'@REVERSE(\\ARG:3\'\\ARG:`\\ARG:2)_"' | ploki - 10 2 3.141593 < 1387577685 592689 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387577718 13967 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'@REVERSE(\\ARG:3\'\\ARG:1`\\ARG:2)_"' | ploki - 10 2 3.141593 < 1387577719 576986 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :11.001001000011111101110000010110000101011110101111 < 1387577722 444068 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1387577727 669629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. < 1387577746 518822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd ploki; make clean; cd ..; mv ploki src < 1387577750 902982 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm -f *.o ploki \ mv: cannot move `ploki' to `src/ploki': Directory not empty < 1387577757 154298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1387577793 908283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls src/ploki < 1387577795 782686 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :doc \ examples \ indent \ syntax \ t \ try < 1387577803 863982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ploki < 1387577805 230716 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :atechit.c \ atechit.depend \ atechit.h \ Compile \ compile.c \ compile.depend \ compile.h \ config.h \ deparse.c \ deparse.depend \ deparse.h \ doc \ examples \ expr.c \ expr.depend \ expr.h \ GNUmakefile \ hang.c \ hang.depend \ hang.h \ hash.c \ hash.depend \ hash.h \ IGNORE \ inc.c \ inc.depend \ inc.h \ indent \ IO.c \ IO.depend \ IO.h \ kork.c < 1387577865 984612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls ploki | grep -v '\.([ch]|depend)' < 1387577868 106686 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :atechit.c \ atechit.depend \ atechit.h \ Compile \ compile.c \ compile.depend \ compile.h \ config.h \ deparse.c \ deparse.depend \ deparse.h \ doc \ examples \ expr.c \ expr.depend \ expr.h \ GNUmakefile \ hang.c \ hang.depend \ hang.h \ hash.c \ hash.depend \ hash.h \ IGNORE \ inc.c \ inc.depend \ inc.h \ indent \ IO.c \ IO.depend \ IO.h \ kork.c < 1387577875 970815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1387577883 96855 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :egrep < 1387577888 621699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls ploki | egrep -v '\.([ch]|depend)' < 1387577890 537083 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compile \ doc \ examples \ GNUmakefile \ IGNORE \ indent \ Makefile \ MakeSkel \ README \ syntax \ t \ tags \ TODO \ try \ VERSION < 1387577899 581283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's all there < 1387577926 551728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -rf src/ploki; mv ploki src < 1387577930 786846 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387577999 559592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume this is a newer version than what was there before. < 1387578175 957762 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387578794 770889 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387579358 977457 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387579430 970822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has an evil idea about something google should do
< 1387579444 203674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :decreasing pagerank based on outgoing links to spam sites < 1387579454 230924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps they already do. < 1387579512 92163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then, people might actually start cleaning up the spam in their blogs. < 1387579527 887270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1387579648 263530 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good idea < 1387579673 562496 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387579820 830100 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-163.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387580732 42512 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/20/us-usa-security-rsa-idUSBRE9BJ1C220131220 < 1387580851 445787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : the big news is that now everyone knows their price, and it was embarassingly low :) i would have held out for like $200M and a pound of cocaine < 1387580893 21493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://www.theawl.com/2013/12/the-new-spammer-panic < 1387580994 500013 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much does a pound of cocaine even go for < 1387580997 596193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot < 1387581004 528161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know Bike i don't buy or sell cocaine < 1387581011 634663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you do with it then < 1387581013 57650 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: update to Merchant of Venice < 1387581016 471342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :la cocaína no es buena para su salud < 1387581018 884804 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"flesh" is street talk < 1387581040 147385 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this like that "Romeo+Juliet" movie where they all had Sword brand guns < 1387581045 218050 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically yeah < 1387581066 887556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: give it out at halloween instead of candy? < 1387581237 487915 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bob for cocaine < 1387581248 431129 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is cocaine soluble? i know so little about cocaine, i'm realizing < 1387581343 845181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know about caine < 1387581357 566149 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have all of avenged sevenfold's albums < 1387581390 407963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :seven alba? < 1387581460 698282 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia tells me that the solubility of cocaine hydrochloride in water is 1800-2500 mg/ml at 20 degrees C. < 1387581509 24995 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1387581513 689159 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"like sugar water" < 1387581527 363927 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The non-salt base form is not soluble in water. < 1387581542 837695 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, what, gotta dunk it in hcl first? < 1387581651 531792 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387581749 326550 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifMUD now is stopped working again; probably because I accidentally made up a infinite loop. < 1387581791 944420 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this prbably wouldn't get you high, huh. well, i guess you win some you lose some < 1387581913 277500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's p. soluble < 1387581923 950043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, wait, that article isn't actually what you said < 1387581944 813706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but you might get some sort of schadenfreude out of it anyway < 1387582035 831808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i do < 1387582090 796563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that almost looks like an argument _not_ to remove spam comments. < 1387582145 703903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the important bit is presumably preventing them from even being created in the future < 1387582196 399365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also maybe i should be careful talking about this sort of thing < 1387582207 44272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :disclaimer, i know nothing about any of this < 1387582212 321946 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[...] after which catamorphisms are sometimes referred to as bananas, as mentioned in Meijer 1991." good < 1387582221 720209 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo all of category theory is bananas < 1387582228 72744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1387582255 642124 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's barbed wire right < 1387582478 583243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm actually it is slightly about what i said, further in < 1387582553 425148 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bitcoinity.org/markets < 1387582559 205370 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :god the april crash looks so puny now < 1387582577 174725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the crash still ongoing < 1387582609 487289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah people are rushing to convert their savings to dogecoin < 1387582617 79655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin knows < 1387582623 714467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats kmc -----###
< 1387582644 210500 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://neurotree.org/neurotree/clusters.php oh good, i found a map like the Erdős ones < 1387582649 398081 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how wonderfully incomprehensible < 1387582667 158195 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"change: +12870.94%" < 1387582676 428381 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the first currency to be based upon an Internet meme" -- wp < 1387582696 181196 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387582713 582268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it's up from 2.5 days ago < 1387582714 147120 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet bitcoin itself is based on a bunch of things you could call "internet" "memes" if you were being really pedantic about it < 1387582750 47853 :Arufonsu!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 NICK :tswett < 1387582755 961794 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet i could call you a nerd, nerd < 1387582763 567717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although falling again today < 1387582768 333972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: why do you do that thing < 1387582837 280415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i buy some bitcoins < 1387582881 553513 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait in the last three days its value has varied threefold < 1387582885 987684 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't they like five hundred a pop < 1387582923 909990 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :600 currently < 1387582932 800302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine "should i buy part of a bitcoin" < 1387582934 760304 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be 500 before long < 1387582980 146335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day a bitcoin will be worth more than a share of BRK.A < 1387582989 540373 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoins are a knife aimed at the heart of america, or rather aimed at some of the arteries that are actually kind of nice < 1387583000 970811 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that one in the ankle < 1387583033 230588 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to have decided that it would be worthwhile to play VIM Adventures < 1387583035 424746 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1387583037 622247 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1387583039 867560 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quassel is being dump < 1387583046 742702 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're far beyond he- oh. < 1387583047 75113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pete: For this style of attack though Red would have advocated Ferlinghetti's Axis which - / Todd: Yeah, yeah. Maximizes damage to the vein. You think I don't know this stuff?" < 1387583055 252868 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe vim isn't a good idea for me, I kind of type in an esoteric way < 1387583073 262206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric should have a zillion subchannels < 1387583076 360940 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to hear more about peercoin though, it sounds reasonably sane < 1387583184 835175 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://achewood.com/index.php?date=01142005 yeah < 1387583187 682274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amused that every cryptocurrency on wikipedia has a link to "Anarchism portal" at the bottom < 1387583227 223804 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because anachists are alllll about currency < 1387583642 837965 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah, I'm a huge dogecoin tycoon < 1387583657 53678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when are you launching pumpkincoin? < 1387583665 565791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pumpkinin < 1387583670 75651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or copumpkincoin < 1387583677 935560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or copumpkinin? < 1387583680 708704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should be the length of a .MOD instrument if I want it to be tuned correctly? < 1387583685 917111 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincopumpkin surely < 1387583691 79152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: 2.5 meters < 1387583697 101132 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin coin co. < 1387583706 579298 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway why is dogecoin interesting < 1387583728 906654 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No, I mean in bytes < 1387583730 61946 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was uninteresting < 1387583746 264659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a scrypt-based coin with a faster blockrate than litecoin < 1387583747 908682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1387583760 859709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dogs < 1387583770 52175 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387583773 667552 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387583802 915625 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :*doges < 1387583805 130893 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shibe < 1387583809 519921 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :such wow < 1387583811 29814 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are people in /r/bitcoin who seriously think bitcoin was bringing freedom to china < 1387583817 952726 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :such turing < 1387583822 826959 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so currency < 1387583823 652035 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1387583835 626432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "there are people in /r/bitcoin who seriously think??" < 1387583839 382679 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :on some level you have to feel sorry for them < 1387583847 147235 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i found out it's kind of hard to research people without wikipedia articles (so that i can write a wikipedia article) < 1387583858 792502 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :comparatively, at least. google makes everything seem so easy < 1387583922 653003 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll just completely make up a year, put citation needed on it, and call it good < 1387583938 440998 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also love how such people kind of brush off the price fluctuations as being the fault of speculators as if that isn't a huge problem in and of itself < 1387583951 91933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1387583954 15826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :speculators gonna speculate < 1387583976 148522 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"look it would work fine if it wasn't for capitalism" < 1387583980 292090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I wonder if those people realize that USD/EUR also has speculators < 1387583983 230343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1387583994 423320 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :capitalism does have a habit of messing with theories < 1387584019 973441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :INVISIBLE HAND WITH RAISED MIDDLE FINGER < 1387584181 350156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: do you think there's a reason China is cracking down on Bitcoin, other than to preserve capital controls? < 1387584232 310512 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would i know! capital controls seems like an adequate enough reason though < 1387584247 218090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then I think it's fair to say they are bringing a certain narrow kind of "freedom" to china < 1387584262 595655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not political freedom certainly < 1387584309 940310 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't it be neat if the government came out with Bitcoin with Chinese Characteristics < 1387584310 886259 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you were replying to that < 1387584348 791744 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is yuan with pictures of circuit boards taped to them < 1387584431 685725 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1t5fo1/to_the_omg_bitcoin_is_dead_people_jesus_christ/ce4uwjh < 1387584435 611818 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :all according to keikaku < 1387584439 971393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This collaboration between the crowdsourcing website Quirky and industrial giant GE (GE, Fortune 500) wirelessly connects to your mobile device to track the number of eggs you have and tell you when they're going bad." $70 < 1387584497 452209 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: lol < 1387584512 546461 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that a cite of fortune 500 or, what's going on there < 1387584556 930295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a link to stock shit < 1387584591 856137 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. i was wondering if they expected name recognition for Quirky but not GE, or what < 1387584600 798932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387584686 607807 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-163.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387584745 579189 :muskrat_!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-50.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387584833 949833 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-163.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387584844 310592 :muskrat_!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-50.psoas.suomi.net NICK :muskrat < 1387585056 88220 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Dogecoinwallet.jpg/800px-Dogecoinwallet.jpg oh, i see. < 1387586025 11227 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387587265 674490 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387588078 263960 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387588851 959662 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387588951 693383 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387588952 145108 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387591817 459642 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wow, much money, such coin < 1387591842 153314 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank < 1387591860 160543 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387591876 621878 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387592007 9308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: guess who's back < 1387592063 568591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer is http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/1tb9qa/haskell_for_all_lift_error_handling_with_lenslike/ce6ap5x < 1387592123 247408 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this pro haskell? that's beaut < 1387592125 526186 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iful < 1387592899 647882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Argh < 1387593071 976795 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-103.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387593177 12133 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-62-74.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387594234 677904 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-62-74.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1387594346 820574 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-185.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387594715 879727 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387595749 457536 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387596257 183609 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i managed to buy 75 bitcents after considerable amounts of banging my head against a technological wall < 1387596285 932460 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you believe the only mobile browser that coinbase works in is opera mini? < 1387596287 776782 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1387596297 316695 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :their app doesn't even work < 1387596324 786859 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-185.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that cost like four hundred dollars < 1387596336 326140 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just under 500 < 1387596371 977972 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387596429 81432 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm hoping i can start using btc the way i usually use paypal. the idea of taking payments for things in btc appeals to me somehow. < 1387596464 515485 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait you bought $500 of bitcoins < 1387596472 461299 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the middle of an ongoing market crash < 1387596502 85845 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the market's been somewhat stable for at least a day now. < 1387596535 989287 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it's a gamble, but it's better than the lottery < 1387596539 562604 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well in that case it's safe to start pouring cash into it! < 1387596563 682375 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-185.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :robbing an IKEA also has better chances of success than the lottery < 1387596592 229221 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: eh it's less than a week of work and i don't have many expenses right now. i'm in a position to gamble. < 1387596598 325696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"stable for a day" < 1387596602 912224 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you call a 20% fluctuation in price 'stable'? < 1387596621 616016 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that's fairly stable for btc :) < 1387596634 519128 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-185.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the joke < 1387596643 39142 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :a veritable fusillade of facepalm < 1387596647 628648 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no it hasn't been fluctuating that much < 1387596656 375927 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 5% or so today < 1387596671 599316 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :high: 0.774, low: 0.621 < 1387596676 720704 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's more than five percent < 1387596700 379239 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think you can get a variance from extrema? < 1387596706 185855 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's less than twenty but i am a) eyeballing the figures and b) not spending cash based on them < 1387596738 321023 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been between 680 and 720 for 90% of the day < 1387596739 294568 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-185.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The ICE dollar index DXY -0.12% , a measure of the U.S. unit against six other currencies, fell to 80.824 from 80.986 late Thursday, for a weekly loss of 0.6%." < 1387596742 697061 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-185.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this got into the news < 1387596803 720008 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: do what you want. i don't gamble in casinos, but i could. btc gambling seemed like it'd be more fun :) < 1387596819 539955 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, it was stable enough on december 15; there was a crash on december 18 < 1387596837 619129 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that crash predicated my purchase. < 1387596878 836078 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloody hell, i can see why they call it the dunning-krugerrand < 1387596884 288384 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387596888 571627 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looked like the china-ban-related crashing was done. so i bought. < 1387596931 938465 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-185.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip ph < 1387597006 818306 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi bike. do you think i'm crazy or do you think coinbase is crazy for working on so few browsers? < 1387597039 418406 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-185.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aiming for wider support than opera seems sensible enough < 1387597182 615751 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :even in opera it only works jerkily and painfully < 1387597204 95878 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea how a company could fail so hard < 1387598463 715094 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is there a "because" combinator? < 1387598822 822612 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-50.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387599294 620246 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387599566 756580 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-185.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387599664 819484 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-29.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387600149 999862 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if there are format for instrument files to use with .MOD that have a transpose value built-in too? < 1387601569 805204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't < 1387601626 609274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish there were enough of a bitcoin options market to compute implied volatility < 1387601635 180235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be neat < 1387601712 360485 :mauke_!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1387601713 712231 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387601796 321507 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sing me a song < 1387601796 545700 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: if that is deserved though). i don't care about its value; i care about anything < 1387601807 868719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you would do anything for love but you won't do that? < 1387601808 90139 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: eval ( begin ( task1) ( task2))) is ( 0 3) 1 < 1387601826 432104 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387602047 912772 :mauke_!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke NICK :mauke < 1387602565 13121 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387603924 461698 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this rotating temple (which, for some reason, is built right on top of an apartment???), one of the rooms contains a statue, having a description of two sentences. The first one was there before, and the second one I added today. Is it better now? "This is a large statue of something having a lot of eyes, mouths, tentacles, hands, claws, teeth, and stuff that nobody understands, all in the sideways and wrong order. Strangely enough, it appears < 1387603930 839992 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did this message get cut off? < 1387603939 243275 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: thing me a thong < 1387603942 224579 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the second sentence better than the first one? < 1387603943 140060 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely enough, it appears < 1387603945 838376 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :þ < 1387603948 539023 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::þ < 1387603953 764037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strangely enough, it appears that even being turned 360 degrees, it is different than it was before; 720 degrees makes it the same, though." < 1387603995 46683 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387604005 584407 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this for you d&d campaign? < 1387604014 486186 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it is for ifMUD. < 1387604032 232023 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it could be used in D&D campaign too, perhaps. < 1387604048 362774 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh a mud. that was going to be my second guess < 1387604099 788695 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is it better now like this? < 1387604176 881566 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387604228 175441 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though the added sentence is pretty much nonsense < 1387604248 611482 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe not < 1387604306 392454 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be equivalent to say "after rotating one full turn, it does not appear the same as before, but after two full turns, it does"? < 1387604329 864446 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yes, that is equivalent, it is what I meant. < 1387604390 757671 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the thing changes as you rotate it. neat. < 1387604400 194303 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i could build a statue like that < 1387605559 777645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time you read a LWN article and the first comment is spender railing about how everyone is an idiot, take a shot < 1387606520 607892 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :LWN? < 1387606530 443638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lwn.net/ < 1387607283 192970 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lwn.net/Articles/576785/ < 1387607354 845579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i was reminded of this game by http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/577432/4c0c4ca28678daa8/ < 1387607387 482043 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. < 1387607999 149033 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is already trivially circumvented via a single function usable by any other exploit, present in enlightenment:" < 1387608002 188201 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that about? < 1387608061 319213 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1387608062 432282 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Spender's code shows that it's actually easy to look for signs of fixes in the kernel image before trying any exploit, thus defeating the detection scheme. " < 1387608215 161652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"enlightenment" is his framework for writing exploits < 1387608240 41149 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :here i was thinking it was the window manager (not sarcasm) < 1387608311 874760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387609134 41614 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387609787 362874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387610535 70867 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :want to buy hugcoins < 1387610545 128050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're based on proof-of-hug < 1387615550 549849 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387615955 321045 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have to prove that the hug was consensual? < 1387616801 571305 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :trypꙮphobia < 1387616997 716252 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387617077 993751 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is logical implication ever used in programming? < 1387617092 474297 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to always be the symmetric logical operators that get in < 1387617249 365407 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prolog does apparently, which makes sense < 1387617259 359045 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah: → in many type systems is isomorphic to logical implication. < 1387617288 805893 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, in all type systems that are isomorphic to constructive logic < 1387617300 818635 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many are, though < 1387617336 102828 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Idris, Coq and Agda might have type systems like that < 1387617357 939461 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know any of them! < 1387617470 93033 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> in Haskell is isomorphic to logical implication. < 1387618144 819190 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387618431 548915 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387618565 818966 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387618964 822027 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Haskell's type system isn't fully turing complete without extensions < 1387619270 804930 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn34-127.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387620499 108530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1387623014 346306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia so the thing changes as you rotate it. neat. <-- maybe zzo38 was inspired by fermion physics. < 1387623014 577729 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387623204 901871 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think electrons are like that < 1387623408 582684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, electrons are fermions. < 1387623419 732965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also protons and neutrons. < 1387623658 993465 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1387623675 37186 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ANantes-259-1-200-42.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1387623779 96439 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387623958 479560 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1387624238 36316 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387627251 95069 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387628174 50791 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387628689 405275 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387629515 729516 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387629608 462261 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1387629649 907571 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387630075 36714 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387630851 733591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1387632046 942002 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387632722 633089 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uauifryqeazkoygw QUIT : < 1387632741 847274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Woodcutter Simulator 2013 allows the player to control and operate an entire lumber mill. From clearing woods to the evacuation of the logs, the player has to undertake all arising tasks to complete numerous missions – from cutting trees for demanding customers to producing woodchips for heating purposes." < 1387632749 98477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole sim game genre is kinda weird. < 1387632781 257104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Features: Work with the chainsaw in 1st-person-view" well I guess that sounds quite gamey. < 1387632817 956066 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387633038 399746 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-238.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387634432 51981 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387634571 777439 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's like gears of war, but the enemies are a little bit more...wooden < 1387634617 59127 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1387634705 583080 :conehead_!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387634839 999782 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387634901 868120 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387635172 562085 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387635485 992723 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387636037 989871 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.160 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387636716 313394 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-238.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387637639 992064 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387637655 21857 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387637662 524239 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT : < 1387637676 973225 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387638505 789657 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387638644 487357 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387638760 178896 :conehead_!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1387638803 563824 :conehead!uid16140@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-skqsfmlekhessody NICK :conehead_ < 1387638836 269191 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387638843 855684 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387638935 553642 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387639123 980860 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387639224 218895 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387639256 936364 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387639353 959677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387639416 535003 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1387639518 32905 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387640350 32976 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387641182 832889 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387641343 766222 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387641568 431997 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387641713 976727 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387642800 145706 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387643067 971416 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1387643698 775143 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387643974 21528 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387646050 282472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morning < 1387646066 977423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: woodchips for heating purposes but not for mushroom-growing purposes? < 1387646074 101001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you grow on woodchips? < 1387646074 422399 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 34580840+0 records out of vectors, i guess that < 1387646147 186200 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :'fternoon < 1387646159 146186 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you grow mushrooms? < 1387646159 488446 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: in the monad io. its type is provable in classical first order logic theory evaluator. and pronounce it " faulty". < 1387646323 906603 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :some neighbor is sawing or grinding something... loudly :( < 1387646375 615736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that used to happen to me a lot a while back, but it stopped < 1387646382 815973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably they finished whatever it was they were building < 1387646435 168946 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387647907 181492 :Halite!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bzajfyfyjqtahkbn NICK :HaliteTablet < 1387648650 873029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they gave up and threw it into the ocean < 1387648658 249189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Halite < 1387648818 997288 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387650376 645593 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are wood stoves bad < 1387650423 850393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear you can buy wood stoves for poor people. < 1387650447 966811 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How do you grow mushrooms in the IO monad? < 1387650448 276192 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if b clones the vlr. its at that point vatican was the ruling power, and it looks good < 1387650462 279913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Okay, it sounds p. difficult. < 1387650462 912447 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: good then. as kate refuses to *edit* binary files just fine now with readelf. ( i was designing it in my face when a calendar item is due, other than sharing the monitor with a box, and does the winner get a cut. unless you stole it. < 1387650556 270587 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1387650727 862334 :Bike_!~Glossina@71.222.125.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387650817 657820 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-93-29.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387650818 908303 :Bike_!~Glossina@71.222.125.128 NICK :Bike < 1387650877 94599 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: do you know anything about growing mushrooms in the monad io? thxplz < 1387650899 78980 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm particularly interested in 1up mushrooms < 1387650908 248652 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I defer to fungot, the resident expert on IO-monadic mushroom growing < 1387650908 550217 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hi, seems you too are taking fnord to a fnord interrupt things, to go with < 1387650917 61190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well mushroom growing is all about purity, avoiding contamination < 1387650940 966927 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm okay with unsafeMushrooms < 1387650989 409061 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not :'( < 1387651000 838550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the usual result is that you get no mushrooms at all, only mold and bacteria < 1387651049 313173 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can i grow Maybe 1up mushrooms? < 1387651064 44231 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387651069 776564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 1up mushroom is like a green A. muscaria < 1387651090 430362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's no actual mushroom that looks like that < 1387651094 566876 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but amanita don't let you cheat death afaik < 1387651095 451610 :Bike!~Glossina@71.222.125.128 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387651100 826028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite the opposite < 1387651106 981201 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1387651114 323959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_phalloides is kinda green and it's one of the most poisonous mushrooms there is < 1387651150 46346 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if i i grew them with the monad io they would be life-giving rather than -taking < 1387651170 799037 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you might need a comonad for that < 1387651212 238036 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1387651636 696208 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone just exploded a glass in this cafe < 1387651645 195391 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i got hit in the face by flying glass < 1387651682 941892 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1387651687 136107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you okay? < 1387651708 432148 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387651715 190193 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah fine < 1387651718 862326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1387651723 780005 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not safe to walk in here < 1387651734 100491 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanello < 1387651743 921763 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a delicious chocolate bar < 1387651762 627573 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was. but i ate it all < 1387651809 488531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1387652063 189441 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387652065 542639 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1387652121 328531 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-238.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387652363 102330 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-238.psoas.suomi.net PART :#esoteric < 1387652751 342405 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/YZVtLW3.jpg i love rich people < 1387652963 951213 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks we love you too Bike < 1387652979 721031 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is another "proposal" by some VC nerd) < 1387652990 81505 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody pointed out that this would be a significant net increase in Republican senate seats < 1387653012 489211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unclear if the proposers want that or just don't realize it < 1387653027 209660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you see http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/the_next_silicon_valley/2013/12/silicon_valley_s_invasion_of_san_francisco_not_quite_the_ayn_rand_nightmare.html < 1387653104 689541 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, nice < 1387653108 895686 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"many of them don’t know who Cesar Chavez was" D: < 1387653148 581606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I am the spirit of César Chávez." "Then why do you look like César Romero?" "Because you don't know what César Chávez looks like." < 1387653178 469355 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly we need a new film like American Psycho < 1387653189 415590 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that fucking business card scene man, i crack up every time < 1387653211 860719 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the modern version would be talking about how minimalist your website's design is < 1387653252 811090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really should watch that movie < 1387653430 300257 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good article though < 1387653531 351503 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does cesar chavez relate to silicon valley? < 1387653719 102938 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn34-127.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387653815 761911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that paragraph is talking about techies moving into the Mission and being ignorant of the cultural history < 1387654133 641201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lives 1 block from Cesar Chavez St.
< 1387654253 119590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1387654289 59061 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to say all the streets are named after him but i forgot if that was tre :V < 1387654533 366571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_named_after_Cesar_Chavez#Major_streets < 1387654710 769524 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, like twenty schools just in cali < 1387654952 188164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile in florida http://newsone.com/2814127/florida-school-named-after-kkk-grand-wizard-gets-new-name/ < 1387655046 907524 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1387655073 974171 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: remember shit perl is pretty awesome you can almost right as you speek < 1387655116 293761 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387655676 333093 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387655708 444375 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387656009 475561 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387656368 543580 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387656584 558943 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1tcpb4/rsa_took_10m_from_nsa_to_make_backdoored_dual_ec/ < 1387656601 642306 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it's been 'allegedly' backdoored, that the algorithm hasn't been proven to be backdoored? < 1387656625 981289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's right < 1387656630 396374 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: basically it has some constants in it that nobody knows where they come from < 1387656655 615297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well more than that, researchers have demonstrated how those constants could have been chosen to include a backdoor < 1387656658 37444 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah yeah, and it's been proven that they could have been chosen to serve as a public key < 1387656661 15662 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of sorts < 1387656661 652581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the constants were constructed using a specific algorithm, it would generate a key at the same time that would backdoor the algorithm < 1387656662 495224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was proved to be "backdoored" whether intentionally or not in 2006 < 1387656665 674834 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2013/09/the-many-flaws-of-dualecdrbg.html < 1387656670 328533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then RSA used it for no good reason whatsoever a few years later < 1387656670 567674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or they might just be random, in which case no backdoor exits < 1387656677 958109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah this suspicion predates the snowden leaks by years < 1387656678 894357 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But hasn't been proven that this is actually the case < 1387656679 267381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then leaked NSA documents said they had compromised encryption standards < 1387656683 61603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but -- yeah < 1387656685 995238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it's news that the NSA paid RSA $10M < 1387656705 225936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this might be a tiny little hint that dual Dual_EC_DRBG is backdoored <_< < 1387656708 916583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/dual // < 1387656719 801668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that Dual_EC_DRBG is just shitty and so there's no reason to use it if the govt isn't paying you to < 1387656923 87282 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387656960 987929 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is crypto, we should all know that "well maybe nobody knows the backdoor" is security through obscurity. < 1387657061 455927 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you have some suspicion that a company did something shitty and they deny it, you should probably just assume that they're lying to your face because they are full of shit and i hate everybody. < 1387657091 91156 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :good application of hanlon's razor < 1387657105 284087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoover's razor < 1387657188 719498 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, apparently the backdoor doesn't work if you have 31 bytes or less? < 1387657214 505090 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait why does that matter < 1387657219 111669 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't < 1387657232 531483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :being able to predict an RNG output after just 31 bytes is a pretty strong backdoor < 1387657241 374462 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's important that we microanalyze this to defend the NSA < 1387657299 281230 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it only works when you have exactly 32 bytes, no more and no fewer < 1387657332 959689 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is right, there can be no nuance in this matter whatsoever < 1387657392 599609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover is right, kill all humans < 1387657491 450375 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a matter of nuance, it's a matter of the NSA being known to have crippled its own government's security for years with nobody being able to know about it, so why bother counting fucking bytes at this point < 1387657496 628171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hug all humans < 1387657548 637546 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember how RSA said dual_ec_drbg's slowness was good because it made attacks slower. that was funny < 1387657594 699782 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also yes, kill all humans, bike superiority < 1387657647 12506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: some crypto algorithms are intentionally designed to be slow, e.g. password hashing functions < 1387657662 384829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they tend to have scalable slowness for that purpose < 1387657703 197480 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lists.randombit.net/pipermail/cryptography/2013-September/005341.html < 1387657764 575390 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha. < 1387657810 536884 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have put more pounds of coke in there < 1387657883 4864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Most developers would probably use the faster symmetric alternatives, but perhaps a small number would prefer the added confidence of a provably-secure construction. Unfortunately, here is where NIST ran into their first problem with Dual_EC. Flaw #1: Dual-EC has no security proof." < 1387657899 721405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Let me spell this out as clearly as I can. In the course of proposing this complex and slow new PRG where the only damn reason you'd ever use the thing is for its security reduction, NIST forgot to provide one. This is like selling someone a Mercedes and forgetting to attach the hood ornament." < 1387657992 836496 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently i don't know enough about cars to get the simile except from context < 1387658041 325976 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mercedes are bling-cars < 1387658061 332544 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure you can drive them but that's not why you buy them < 1387658070 973210 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1387658704 322658 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387658761 379580 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387659864 31332 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387660971 13793 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387663546 969517 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1387664714 889591 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Former South Sudan Vice-President Riek Machar tells the BBC that rebel forces are under his control and have taken the key oil-producing Unity state." < 1387664717 919759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great name < 1387664972 608202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kufic.info/architecture/architecture.htm hell yes < 1387665048 109303 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is this ordered, uzbekistan is before turkmenistan < 1387665077 310181 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bookmarks
< 1387665079 312382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :descending sort by number of uzbeks < 1387665087 925231 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1387665104 1572 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, christ, look at all these books. bad site, i have a budget < 1387665238 911871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1387666408 992188 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387667678 751005 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387667828 874816 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-238.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387667865 30450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there square currency units used for any purpose? < 1387667884 432611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1387667888 848047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like coins but square? < 1387667895 821290 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean like square meters < 1387668033 923259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, like square meters and stuff like that < 1387668056 61828 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let $ be the symbol for the currency unit. $ is money. $/$ (unitless) is a simple interest rate. $/$s (equivalent to hertz!?) is a compound interest rate, I think < 1387668057 45047 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are used for bounties in Trigun. < 1387668097 268107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er shouldn't an interest rate be in terms of time < 1387668105 481796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would that change with compounding < 1387668110 601396 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the units on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks_(finance) might get pretty weird < 1387668115 312832 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: How does that work? < 1387668122 710704 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sixty billion double dollars. < 1387668142 132412 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I may have forgotten quite what simple interest is < 1387668171 560800 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : Let $ be the symbol for the currency unit. $ is money. $/$ (unitless) is a simple interest rate. $/$s (equivalent to hertz!?) is a compound interest rate, I think < 1387668177 742616 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything's equivalent to hertz < 1387668181 879814 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :roentgens, for instance < 1387668185 265810 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"famous for Confusion of Confusions, a book about stock markets" ha < 1387668203 47917 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, becquerels# < 1387668228 774437 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, whatever would describe a time machine accelerating is equivalent to hertz, too < 1387668515 596253 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Odd thing about be #642: I am more conservative with money when I expect an immediate reward to my purchase < 1387668530 822200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 642 < 1387668535 610105 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :642) well, i have to assume if i'm going to make any asses < 1387668641 318142 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387668692 375385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still do not understand, how you mean using for bounties, and that stuff? < 1387668734 915442 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387668806 212734 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org NICK :monotone < 1387668830 852925 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387670964 434712 :rntz!~rntz@eos.sp.cs.cmu.edu NICK :rntz^2 < 1387671424 570422 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had some dream (I think just yesterday/today) and I should put it into the computer today. First I am reading something else but then I will do, please. < 1387671444 717320 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please? < 1387671900 808748 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: always be polite < 1387671989 614786 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/dollar-tree-ceo-officially-unveils-longrumored-foi,32684/ do you get it < 1387672818 951407 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know you can measure compound interest in hertz. But now I suppose I can understand it. < 1387672847 524278 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe) < 1387672925 321260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes hth < 1387672941 429458 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1387673136 689535 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387673568 51057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1387673957 558867 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Finally, a use for picohertz? < 1387674325 193108 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :**** quantum computing < 1387674750 502948 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387674774 733714 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387674833 959833 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, I suppose that would be a use for it, then < 1387674848 624069 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, can you represent compound interest as hertz? < 1387674853 546029 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you would run into issues < 1387674887 997479 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because 1% every one unit of time is not the same as 10% every ten units of time is not the same as 100% every hundred units of time < 1387675437 909218 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think exponentials may have to be involved somewhere, which, for a unit, is most odd < 1387675504 579354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about coexponentials < 1387675514 782134 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :... logarithms? < 1387675676 182800 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's log $ / s < 1387675741 405052 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :logarithm-dollars per second? < 1387675751 996155 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1387675757 7066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway coexponentials are left adjoint to coproducts or something?? < 1387675761 12727 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is the unit of compound interest < 1387675879 210609 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think € is closer to an SI currency < 1387676007 983342 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387676060 266095 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unit euro is stored in a french vault < 1387676130 259672 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yes I am actually also unsure, for the same reasons as you, too < 1387676177 488360 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely the SI euro should be standardized as a constant of nature, such as the daily expenditure of a physics grad student < 1387676242 988977 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps the marginal cost of a strange quark. < 1387676256 23473 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just pin it to the big mac and call it good < 1387676311 134939 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now the real question is, what's the planck unit of money? < 1387676344 866060 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the smallest seriously used unit of money i've seen was the average cost of a semiconductor < 1387676353 586753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how come https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_presentation and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finitely_presented don't redirect to the same page < 1387676372 935747 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but that's not Planck units. :) < 1387676392 945684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: imo the former is v. obviously biased and should probably be more like the latter < 1387676556 2340 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, what is the average price of a semiconductor? < 1387676626 255988 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a trillionth of a cent, or something like that < 1387676699 801744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: plz answer in dogecoins thx < 1387676735 171852 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, about 1 DOGE. < 1387676765 153029 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, another channel is asking what do you mean by "a" semiconductor < 1387676786 144031 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guess "a transistor". < 1387676787 740850 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387676809 942553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: imo they can ask Bike directly if they care so much < 1387676968 32806 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-174.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387677057 32289 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387677180 988450 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant a transistor, yes < 1387677183 700839 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :words are hard < 1387677242 905081 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 'semiconductor' sounds cooler than 'transitor' even though just a stupid lump of silicon ore is semiconductive < 1387677291 107834 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't... silicon ore most rocks? < 1387677334 858287 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1387677345 486774 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :If time is money, then compound interest is log s/s < 1387677348 530622 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure industrial silicon is extracted from silica < 1387677387 800217 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it is < 1387677394 262897 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :So compound interest is the logarithm of time to the timeth root < 1387677395 200758 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway most rocks aren't silica < 1387677414 579037 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way they get wafers is really cool https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czochralski_process < 1387677442 238254 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, Hexham's in sandstone country < 1387677468 815105 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If time is money, then BTC provides a means of converting electricity into time. < 1387677502 584557 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also convert electricity to money by, uh... selling it to people < 1387677560 379622 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or by electrolisis of, uh... solutions containing gold? < 1387677582 757158 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, solutions containing € < 1387677699 914199 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :a solid solution between £ and $ < 1387677737 691029 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of want to make a fully mechanical bitcoin miner now < 1387677782 739780 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I ought to sleep < 1387677801 999225 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if our universe is just the proof-of-work for someone's cryptocurrency < 1387677864 525397 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i shall make fun of god on internet forums. < 1387678018 228217 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387679123 836282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is various format tags for .MOD format; there is "M.K." which does not stand for Mahoney & Kaktus, but one tag used only once is "M&K!"; does that one stand for Mahoney & Kaktus, maybe? < 1387679373 116429 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387680926 807456 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387681034 990486 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vageuly plans on buying some bitcoins
< 1387681139 527235 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh for god's sake < 1387681142 151507 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1387681148 330793 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fuck would you do that < 1387681265 769117 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worst that could happen is I lose some money, right? < 1387681281 374085 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but... argh < 1387681294 266902 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider how many purchases you could justify with that. < 1387681302 628169 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :particularly, any purchase < 1387681305 310352 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :look if you want to speculate you are far better off learning about investment in general rather than following this one specific fad < 1387681347 382340 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have noticed myself buying stuff more often when I'd usually try to make do with free alternatives < 1387681364 451333 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the documentation for .MOD format seems pretty bad. Some documents say the Fxx effect sets the speed for the next line, although OpenMPT affects it on the current line. < 1387681377 274204 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: don < 1387681388 154360 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't different players render .mods differnetly sometimes? < 1387681402 847798 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Phantom__Hoover wants some bitcoins for christmas < 1387681415 37199 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you want to give me free money i'm game < 1387681431 517859 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i even had a wallet, i wonder if it has anything in it < 1387681531 114858 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: That may be true in some cases (as far as I know, most players don't emulate the Amiga hardware filter) < 1387681550 377935 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387681643 33796 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387681661 303822 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1387681716 978400 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387682794 349023 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I wrote about the dreams now < 1387682810 415028 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me if you have anything in your dream to add to the report, too. < 1387684096 939113 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387684172 443186 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-238.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387685283 499659 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1387686739 6615 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387686745 284273 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody home? < 1387686753 293113 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1387686774 455357 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not familiar with IRCs. < 1387686779 353435 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is strictly for esolang? < 1387686780 250706 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome! < 1387686788 8643 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, this channel is Esolang's. < 1387686797 75524 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: use the welcome msg < 1387686802 809144 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Edward___ < 1387686804 572156 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't backtick < 1387686804 776450 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great, I have a few questions, could I ask you? < 1387686805 606771 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1387686813 543802 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1387686822 410263 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: sure, ask away. < 1387686828 756923 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(offtopic, but most messages here are off-topic) http://www.nytimes.com/1998/12/12/nyregion/slogan-causes-pencil-recall.html < 1387686856 711098 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned brainfuck about a year ago < 1387686863 837199 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do drugs" < 1387686866 526828 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :smart advice. < 1387686868 5235 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I'm learning C, in order to work on my eventual undergraduate thesis < 1387686881 155146 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which involves creating a language. < 1387686893 308774 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sweet! C is awesome. < 1387686907 978815 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So for a potential creator of a language... What's some broad advice you can give me? < 1387686914 825293 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep it consistent. < 1387686915 408104 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :linearinterpol: Was that sarcasm? :-P < 1387686920 286988 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't fuck it up < 1387686927 239666 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: about C or the drugs. < 1387686929 851416 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because both aren't. < 1387686930 650952 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387686943 209704 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks! I consider myself conversational with Python, and fluent in Java ;) < 1387686945 974075 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: have you taken a class in programming language design? < 1387686948 643202 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So C is a whole new beast. < 1387686959 831929 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the cool thing about undergraduate theses is that nobody will care after you're done, so don't sweat it < 1387686962 416732 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I have yet to. < 1387686977 665137 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, my goal is to hope somebody cares, I want my PhD :) < 1387686978 618836 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: the key to designing a language is consistency. whatever symantics or syntax you give it, make sure it adheres to a strict set of guidelines. < 1387686998 431107 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387687002 479087 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :design it in small chunks. < 1387687005 649263 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trust me, the only master's thesis anyone's cared about in the last two hundred years is shannon's, and you ain't him < 1387687011 611191 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: that would probably help. it forces you to become familiar with all the various paradigms, and the goals that are typically aimed at by language designers < 1387687012 157619 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: +10. < 1387687016 820781 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shannon's? Who is shannon? < 1387687024 136631 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :claude shannon, look 'im up, cool guy < 1387687043 938825 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great, I'd love to. < 1387687046 890534 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks! < 1387687053 884880 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically what i'm saying is, do take it seriously since presumably this has consequences, but don't worry too much about designing something that has to last < 1387687054 73483 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I've learned a bit about paradigms. < 1387687072 889510 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I got what you were saying :) < 1387687080 799509 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: how many paradigms have you written working code in? < 1387687086 418489 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for the advice nonetheless. < 1387687094 436736 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm.... < 1387687113 527561 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say 4 < 1387687135 371760 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 mains and 1.. extra? < 1387687149 216121 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, 3 mains and I looked at automata based < 1387687152 395235 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's pretty easy to learn programming languages since you already know some. learn some that are far from what you know, like haskell or scheme (SICP is free and semi-about language interpreters) < 1387687160 645500 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I'll be in the "Theoretical" focus for my major < 1387687162 970173 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just both < 1387687169 232508 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: the three main being imperative, functional, logical? < 1387687169 502536 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SICP is nice yet intimidating. < 1387687180 18879 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: correct. < 1387687180 375005 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well shit, I find C completely different from Java and Python hahaha < 1387687191 335794 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it is < 1387687192 970982 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: get used to dealing with the "procedural" paradigm. < 1387687199 750907 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and manually managing memory. < 1387687200 573431 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are other completely different ones, see. lots of directions. < 1387687202 882595 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah, imperative, functional, logical, and automata. < 1387687222 848109 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like manually managing memory, because if I were to create a really indepth language, I should be good at that, yeah? < 1387687228 678371 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know automata personally i think writing a quick NFA regex engine is a nice way to learn something < 1387687231 115190 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct! < 1387687232 462349 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like you. < 1387687242 688200 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks! :) < 1387687247 516262 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like me too, and I like your help. < 1387687247 972587 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should hang out and discuss memory management schemes. < 1387687250 324563 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: i'd say it depends on what you're doing... < 1387687261 994720 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like better languages which don't require such memory management :D < 1387687263 463362 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well the thing is, I wouldn't have much to say about memory management schemes... < 1387687266 195676 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you want to lecture. < 1387687268 528214 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: “trypꙮphobia”. hth < 1387687269 545755 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so write one like that < 1387687271 660951 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :loll. < 1387687279 647258 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't be the first time I've lectured. < 1387687288 913039 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :last one I gave was non-determinism on deterministic platforms. < 1387687289 101198 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :memory management is hard, but cool. obviously pretty hard to do well, what else is new < 1387687290 746592 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I'd love to listen. < 1387687305 884257 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or apparent deterministic platforms. < 1387687316 590779 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a snorefest. < 1387687324 796949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: help < 1387687327 845231 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'd love to. I'd like to take care of memory management in my language (myself as opposed to letting another language do it) so that the user doesn't have to < 1387687337 211572 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm... < 1387687338 660046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is context < 1387687341 4602 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: a word of advice. < 1387687341 192844 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me read up on that < 1387687349 868936 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :very small word of advice. < 1387687351 567108 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :start small. < 1387687356 231059 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Do a google image search (or just a google non-image search if you’re squeamish). < 1387687361 895403 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use a language that has automatic memory management to implement your language and then neither of you would have to care. < 1387687379 51322 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, just saying it's an option. < 1387687382 428741 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not caring, it's perfectionism haha :) < 1387687383 661709 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a language that has context-independent instructions like brainfuck does. < 1387687393 499847 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to show that I can do it, for the purpose of getting attention ;) < 1387687403 644617 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man. < 1387687407 550553 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would I begin writing said language? < 1387687413 642438 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: Design it. < 1387687417 667836 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally. < 1387687421 911082 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1387687429 589510 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: take a look at http://www.ravenbrook.com/project/mps/ < 1387687433 580377 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now probably floating around in your head you have tons of ideas. < 1387687441 444884 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet always keep in mind: everything reduces to symbols. < 1387687453 537282 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does 4 reduce to a symbol < 1387687459 74544 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 is a symbol. < 1387687477 139244 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so.. < 1387687479 471344 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never seen it sym < 1387687485 168991 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: here's some ideas you should be familiar with and consider: pure object orientation (smalltalk), contracts (eiffel), orthogonality (algol), minimizing initial learning curve (PHP and others), garbage collection algorithms (mark-and-sweep in particular), pure recursion/tail recursion (lambda calculus, combinator languages) < 1387687487 323868 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have lots of ideas hahaha < 1387687499 916678 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"4 is a symbol. so..." hahahaha < 1387687524 224073 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've read about garbage collection algorithms, so I'm familiar with a small aspect < 1387687534 10614 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :effectively the simplest "language" is an alphabet with a bunch of rules applied to it. < 1387687540 76911 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, I've also learned lambda calculus and some other related theory < 1387687544 643825 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is a book on garbage collection http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/staff/rej/gc.html#Book < 1387687553 488204 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mentioned automata earlier for the following reason... < 1387687553 922950 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, I mean. < 1387687557 86768 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can start with that. < 1387687582 209078 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I am in that "theoretical" subfocus, I'll be doing a lot of boolean algebra, discrete math, numerical analysis, etc... < 1387687595 912850 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and automata are a big working point. Anyway... < 1387687600 621542 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tcs is great. hope you can hack it better than me. < 1387687616 943525 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks! I'll check it out. < 1387687623 960269 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :automata theory is fun. < 1387687635 30709 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I've learned a lot about language design just from little side-notes in books about the theoretical stuff. < 1387687642 123601 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little* < 1387687643 700344 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: a small word of advice. if you want a phd in tcs, don't just be satisfied with discrete math. take every math class you can fit into your schedule, whether it seems useful or not. < 1387687656 779538 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i regret not doing that < 1387687659 258784 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am, I will be taking calc 3 next semester. < 1387687663 137641 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is your undergraduate thesis have some kind of criteria to it or is it just "show me a language implementation fucker" < 1387687664 592606 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the following another math < 1387687667 940513 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does your* < 1387687677 326290 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's the thing, I'm actually working ahead. < 1387687678 939515 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by like... < 1387687680 652751 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 years. < 1387687685 773846 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'd like to think that the criteria was worded exactly like that. < 1387687698 184002 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, I want to have an idea, and honestly, I'd just like to learn. < 1387687718 465468 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quintopia: did you get a phd in tcs? < 1387687733 402312 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: no i couldn't hack it. quit with a masters < 1387687741 871465 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, gotcha. < 1387687751 165227 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nice to hear.... haha < 1387687751 390620 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1387687754 943811 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :calc three is vectors right < 1387687756 532283 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun stuff < 1387687761 929863 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, multivariate. < 1387687762 118208 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckin america < 1387687764 219928 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck vectors. < 1387687769 521492 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it! < 1387687770 20290 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck your magnitudes. < 1387687772 112366 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has like nothing to do with computer science but it rules < 1387687779 829654 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :calc three for cs was fun. but i hear actual calc 3 was very different < 1387687786 188398 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only need a direction. MY MAGNITUDE IS INFINITE. < 1387687793 319968 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my school doesn't have a calc 3 for cs... < 1387687799 753872 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame... < 1387687801 594988 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: but you have no direction. heisenberg you know < 1387687810 653756 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :calc 3 for CS means calc 3 dumbed down, fuck that < 1387687811 625920 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm uncertain. < 1387687820 761490 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like those 'math for biologists' courses that are uniformly shitty < 1387687829 441226 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, probably. < 1387687829 629493 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1387687831 11726 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: not dumbed at all. just different focus. < 1387687832 220566 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there's a math for biologists? < 1387687833 526419 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit. < 1387687833 718632 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bio minor < 1387687844 469510 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: sometimes. < 1387687853 878327 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just finished my first semester of bio...bio 2107 < 1387687855 78448 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one cell plus one cell equals.. < 1387687855 515457 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke of course is that biologists are scared of math < 1387687856 402097 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :got an A :) < 1387687859 367779 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...FACK < 1387687875 819085 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Owen White: "Math is to physics as CS is to biology." < 1387687877 12406 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays everybody has to know python to treat data or w/e < 1387687883 661749 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha what the fuck? < 1387687887 545857 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell. < 1387687889 281511 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that. < 1387687890 384347 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't. < 1387687891 29829 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what. < 1387687893 148214 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1387687894 659532 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's dumb as shit, i love it < 1387687901 431220 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1387687903 596479 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1387687913 52012 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obCjODeoLVw < 1387687927 648695 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :very wonderful talk. < 1387687929 667995 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Misattributed I assume? < 1387687958 123189 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll save that to watch once I log off :) < 1387687960 330743 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't even imagine what thought process could lead to that quote, i love it < 1387687961 332545 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does make sense in one respect < 1387687973 623196 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"well it's about like, agents" < 1387687985 632475 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :computational biology being somehow akin to mathematical physics < 1387687989 410556 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AGENT SYSTEMS! BUZZWORD! that applies to biology, right?" < 1387687998 288542 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"...right?" < 1387688002 214680 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"..stop laughing." < 1387688006 132160 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, physics is naturally dependent on math, yeah? < 1387688018 112256 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And advancements in biology have most recently come from computers < 1387688025 808920 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe not CS < 1387688026 8559 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :physics is naturally dependent on the entire field of formal science. < 1387688028 60839 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387688033 312397 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but computers < 1387688036 914700 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but advancements in blender manufacturing have most recently come from computers. < 1387688038 135296 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1387688043 258916 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1387688047 516775 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: don't forget toasters. < 1387688052 350052 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's different, but point taken < 1387688061 586167 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387688068 790543 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :CS is to X as CS is to Y. < 1387688071 911191 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, it was at the beginning of a book on Bioinformatics (maybe an essay) written by the guy who basically founded the field. < 1387688076 632987 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fully general simile < 1387688085 540671 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And i liked it! < 1387688100 976498 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that quit message.... < 1387688109 86522 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the badger? < 1387688112 575457 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah hahahaaha < 1387688116 538389 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute badger < 1387688126 474150 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway.... < 1387688128 475263 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: here, let me sum up CS in a few words. < 1387688130 937551 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :badgers are terrifying irl though < 1387688137 395657 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1387688140 685455 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :listening :) < 1387688144 681121 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, when people say physics is based on math they're not just saying math helps physicists, they're saying it's a conceptual underpinning. < 1387688150 136135 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which, well, really isn't true of biology at all. < 1387688153 314386 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: do it like dumdledore < 1387688160 650838 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CS is like playing with invisible legos that you can make yourself, and when you arrange those legos in a certain way, you can do amazing things that you couldn't have dreamt of. < 1387688171 406537 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1387688173 892843 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have an unlimited building space. < 1387688175 269542 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably use full sentences and punctuation but fuck that nerd shit < 1387688186 74857 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1387688187 152942 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387688189 440542 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1387688196 637265 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex NICK :preflex < 1387688196 825595 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an unlimited amount of legos. < 1387688203 182165 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not CS. that's programming. < 1387688210 429796 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shhhh < 1387688214 741999 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it. < 1387688217 338356 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulien_Hogeweg oh, a woman. that's nice. < 1387688224 742061 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh shush your shit, it's CS. < 1387688229 990072 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make every saying a little fucked. < 1387688230 478855 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're dealing with abstract machines and all sorts of theories. < 1387688234 947841 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me play with invisible legos. < 1387688255 22632 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i think of mathematical biology i just think of lotka though. < 1387688259 243182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes" -- probably not Dijkstra < 1387688259 497064 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So let's say I'm building Brainfuck. < 1387688265 73503 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or like, volterra. volterra's cool. < 1387688275 912298 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: love it. < 1387688280 718582 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or kolmogorov but he's just the best at everything. < 1387688290 107038 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you written a brainfuck compiler yet? < 1387688292 507451 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: choose your alphabet, choose your rules, construct an abstract machine, implement it. < 1387688305 658888 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: P.N. Dijkstra is definitely my favorite computer philosopher < 1387688320 442104 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I have seen that quotations too, but I think I have seen it attributed to Dijkstra < 1387688344 878448 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either way I like that quotation < 1387688348 408921 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad optics is probably cooler than computer engineering, on the whole. < 1387688357 422201 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: oh right, i was going to mention kolmogorov machines on the above list. something worth knowing about. < 1387688367 478824 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great, I'll look it up :) < 1387688377 156546 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kolmogorov machines! < 1387688391 693884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think it is apocryphal. < 1387688419 462183 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well...the implementation. < 1387688422 585050 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's my concern. < 1387688435 279444 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just try writing one. brainfuck compilers are really easy < 1387688443 998088 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: Surely I approach the project differently from a Fibonacci program... < 1387688445 383070 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your implementation is certainly dependent upon your choice of rules/alphabet. < 1387688449 632128 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a first approximation, you can just replace every character with a bit of C < 1387688460 49545 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: understand that this field is entirely arbitrary. < 1387688475 343945 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that is true < 1387688482 652617 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. = puts("") < 1387688503 312314 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the simplest interpreter would be iterating over a string of symbols and modifying some state. < 1387688505 56894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like putchar(tape[i]) < 1387688507 352240 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather printf("%c",arr[i]) < 1387688510 249782 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387688511 509822 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's about it. < 1387688522 449860 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't even need I/O. < 1387688524 399357 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can examine why this implementation sucks (does it work on invalid programs? does it tell you how a program is invalid? is it fast? is it safe?) < 1387688542 474596 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what do you mean? < 1387688549 888932 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do i mean by what < 1387688552 91567 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :analysis of all possible programs. < 1387688559 998195 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid programs, sorry. < 1387688560 462085 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and analysis based on a set of conditions. < 1387688564 375408 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in with errors? < 1387688571 943957 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :programs with* < 1387688573 204106 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: "++]" isn't a valid brainfuck program, yeah? < 1387688573 652371 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: such as.. [[] < 1387688575 288077 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something. < 1387688583 212396 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotcha. < 1387688592 786231 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay great. < 1387688600 182001 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'all kick ass. < 1387688611 249974 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And here my mom is saying I shouldn't talk to strangers... < 1387688622 260952 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lie-to-hildren < 1387688626 698597 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a useful one tho < 1387688634 625822 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i ever meet you i will sell you methylenedioxymethamphetamine so she has a point < 1387688655 321381 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :walter? < 1387688668 537266 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that you? < 1387688669 661128 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heisenberg? < 1387688740 677801 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamn has everyone seen that television programme < 1387688742 153754 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programs without matched [] are invalid brainfuck programs; it is why I suggested once that if the program's input is from the same stream, you should use ] to separate the program from the input (even though most implementations use ! instead) < 1387688779 17841 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree using ] is much more elgant; no need to expand alphabet < 1387688856 521200 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my 112 byte BF interpreter uses that convention too < 1387688866 730758 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp_: downside is it makes debugging harder. not that usually bothers esolangers. < 1387688924 275196 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also means that ! may be used in comments like in implementations with separate program from input would do, and using ] in case of some kind of Godel numbering, it can help too I guess < 1387689212 719405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this about Gödel numbering? < 1387689252 158709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like numbers < 1387689267 72738 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :numbers are fun. < 1387689314 771380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: For example if you want the low three bits per number as the first command, and so on, and ] is zero. Hofstadter always used decimal, although I don't like that much. < 1387689330 909616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah i see < 1387689360 772020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :methylenedioxymethamphetamine != methamphetamine, kids < 1387689378 943158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the former is a lot more fun < 1387689435 452660 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :methylenedioxymethamphetamine < 1387689444 355743 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :enedioxymethamphe < 1387689454 47696 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :dioxymet < 1387689460 930350 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oxy < 1387689465 98177 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :x < 1387689483 648690 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. yep. much easier to pronounce < 1387689531 171475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's shaped like a lizard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MDMA_(simple).svg < 1387689575 91471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i like your etymology < 1387689741 897281 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit, it is < 1387689792 544251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i met a guy who did research on psychoactive drugs and he told me that it's even more complicated than I thought < 1387689843 354717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because two drugs which activate the same receptor with the same overall binding affinity might still produce a different distribution of receptor conformations inside the cell, which would trigger different signaling pathways < 1387690003 371903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The entire report of my and other dreams are at: http://zzo38computer.org/misc/weird_dream/dream.txt They are in order of entry, which is not necessarily the order of occurence. < 1387690032 132224 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you can have fictitious events inside of other fictitious events, but what is it when you have a fictitious event logically *outside* of a fictitious event? (This happened in a dream once) < 1387690092 809915 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :frame story? < 1387690165 421538 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it is actually inside and not outside, but it is logically as if it is outside. < 1387690178 461263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you mean like waking up from a dream-in-a-dream? < 1387690483 31443 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No. My example is dreaming being someone else of even a different species or whatever, and then going to a place in the dream, that you have the belief that the real you has actually been there, even though that is fictitious and doesn't exist either. (And this belief cannot combine with the ones in context of the dream, due to the strange logic in use) < 1387690493 489568 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully that is clear enough to you? < 1387690534 808548 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have super weird dreams < 1387690539 694017 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a bit jealous < 1387690695 850882 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jealous? Are they so much weird compared to others, or is some other factor at work? Or, perhaps, both! < 1387690722 824681 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, weird to me. i hardly ever dream. < 1387691239 92380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you do, what do you? < 1387691287 643931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :[Just (), Nothing] >>= repeat | When you do, what do you? | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1387691298 494506 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love that topic. < 1387691336 842708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry baby i had to crash that topic < 1387691345 801561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i thought it was a kmc lyrics quote < 1387691351 40919 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it turned out to be a zzo38 quote < 1387691354 26019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what's the difference" < 1387691448 593266 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, you are famous in the internet, apparently. < 1387691453 646807 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :google your username. < 1387691489 386676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you have stairs in your house? < 1387691490 131236 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wait wait. < 1387691494 844712 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: NESdev? < 1387691499 947033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, whoa, whoa, i forgot about more-notation < 1387691503 214150 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh christ. < 1387691503 451153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/User:Zzo38/Proposal_for_more-notation < 1387691520 933920 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: Yes I have seen, there is several things in there, whether it is links, random gibberish text, other people's writing, imposters, or unrelated things. < 1387691529 17849 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Did the almighty kevtris bless you? < 1387691529 795323 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, I do have stairs in my house. < 1387691534 341393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzt.org/fora/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=836 < 1387691540 790928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Are you protected? < 1387691575 917812 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good night y'all. How do I make my quit text that Badger gif < 1387691577 286802 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1387691584 101155 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that would make me happy. < 1387691594 816294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: I don't think so, but I do post in NESdev and do that stuff too < 1387691606 215824 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give marshallh my best if you see him. < 1387691609 615684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: you just specify the quit text after /quit < 1387691614 715755 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387691618 178738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION claps
< 1387691622 418441 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that boy is going places. < 1387691631 592630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1387691635 826418 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to badgerland < 1387691645 393176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the happiest place on earth!!! < 1387691648 956108 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can I talk to you about accepting the 6502 as your personal lord and savior. < 1387691649 152564 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Protected? How? < 1387691657 115194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: from the terrible secret of space < 1387691664 356254 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :please. < 1387691676 318502 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: You can try! However, I don't accept something as my personal lord and savior. < 1387691689 916609 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, but it has decimal mode. < 1387691695 676602 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Other than philosophical ideals, I suppose.) < 1387691712 276106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: The decimal mode doesn't work in the NES/Famicom. < 1387691715 266820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i be your shared lord and savior < 1387691732 740187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You can try, but I think not. < 1387691761 332162 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That's why I'm reccomending you switch! < 1387691764 399791 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387691795 78795 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also just occurred to me that MOS Technologies is the Bender of the semiconductor world. < 1387691810 962476 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm gonna go make my own architecture! With blackjack and hookers!" < 1387691813 89420 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :runs on beer? < 1387691816 944748 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ and that. < 1387691829 468475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/attachments/off-topic-6/46134d1371914998-count-100-000-pictures-bender_6502-jpg < 1387691836 983344 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see. < 1387691838 493998 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was right. < 1387691846 748848 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking conspiracies. < 1387691853 869413 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't this mean Bender is the 6502 of the robot world < 1387691871 916242 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION headsplodes.
< 1387691877 172529 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: I would use the decimal mode when programming one that does have decimal mode working, but not for Famicom programs. < 1387691914 174612 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: screw the rules! decimal mode ftw! < 1387691972 239004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: ??? < 1387691988 456287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 Classic also has some decimal mode stuffs < 1387692003 569003 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 classic is also modeled after the Z80. < 1387692017 5039 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AKA the heretic CPU. < 1387692020 168669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the Z80 is modeled after the 8080 < 1387692023 144553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"modeled" < 1387692049 405651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like the Tu-4 was modeled after the B-29 < 1387692056 267213 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes it has some instructions for it, but I rarely program stuff in x86 assembly language anyways (except for a few small DOS programs; I have done a few) < 1387692069 145812 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and once, a MBR code) < 1387692367 973897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: I doubt the 6502 has any instruction built in for either blackjack or hookers although I suppose the former is possible < 1387692396 845741 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: damn right. < 1387692412 824080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obligatory http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/story-of-mel.html < 1387692445 229423 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haah < 1387692458 267961 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obligatory is damn right. < 1387692599 709422 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen story of Mel, too. < 1387692672 844834 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't modern x86 boxes still support decimal mode if you're in real mode or something < 1387692685 865132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in protected mode as well, i believe < 1387692688 213382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not in long mode < 1387692692 719576 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tertu: Yes, but not in 64-bit mode < 1387693173 278811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinion of these things I added in this dreaming report by now? Furthermore, do you have anything to add or to correct any errors in the text? < 1387693268 265017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you aware of any David Sirlin games? < 1387694032 25747 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387694269 998534 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387694353 402277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/lYjKKpx.png winter in san francisco < 1387694359 439227 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387694392 13293 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387694407 540078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can we have that in real degrees plz < 1387694416 255870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1387694481 111427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is full of people from hexham and finland < 1387694482 136702 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Real* degrees? Like angular measurements? < 1387694505 600867 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexland < 1387694518 403710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, like real numbers greater than -273.15 < 1387694524 701749 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :real degrees, like ph.d. < 1387694550 748578 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what complex angles would represent
< 1387694627 993011 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> asin 3 < 1387694630 239424 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : NaN < 1387694636 689006 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, huh. < 1387694641 686143 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> asin 3 :: Complex < 1387694643 829676 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expecting one more argument to `Data.Complex.Complex' < 1387694645 998067 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387694647 491296 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no good? oh well. < 1387694651 40209 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> asin 3 :: Complex Double < 1387694652 713930 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.5707963267948966 :+ (-1.762747174039086) < 1387694670 218001 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '@ASIN3' | ploki < 1387694673 109758 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :nan < 1387694677 69525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> asin 9 < 1387694678 815515 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : NaN < 1387694687 902944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :que es ploki < 1387694695 612369 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '@ASIN 0.5' | ploki < 1387694697 134881 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.523598775598299 < 1387694699 847763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: Does ploki just read from stdin? < 1387694710 182823 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: stdin or file < 1387694724 469559 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't execute from argv < 1387694756 496511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should make a `runploki command that reads from argv. < 1387694767 648308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd do it but I'm not sure how much special character support is necessary? < 1387694777 8625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me about ploki < 1387694818 538246 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's a scripting language modeled after BASIC, Perl, and assembler code < 1387694867 806568 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the main reason I haven't done that yet is that ploki insists on newlines between statements < 1387694874 902369 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is awkward on the command line < 1387694916 560399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use echo -e or something like that. But still awkward. < 1387694927 30376 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'hello\nworld\n' < 1387694928 317893 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello \ world < 1387694942 617946 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like to do things like git commit -am $'blah\n\blah blah' < 1387694945 373554 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: there is some documentation at http://mauke.hopto.org/stuff/ploki/ploki-0.6.5.1/doc/ < 1387694956 179766 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like the rest of ploki, it's part of the practical joke < 1387694973 956140 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know about $'' but it wouldn't work with an externally supplied string. < 1387694994 349540 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's all sorts of fun hidden in the corners that the documentation doesn't cover < 1387695016 126686 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. it's not obvious from the description of the syntax that ploki has literally no syntax errors < 1387695049 254045 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only "error" it has is going into an infinite loop < 1387695085 401861 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is based on an implementation accident when I first did the GOTO command < 1387695126 982242 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I was quite pleased to discover _|_ being used both for errors and nontermination, 10 years later < 1387695177 137255 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike Perl it uses _ for concatenation (instead of .) < 1387695219 921535 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is because at the time I didn't know about parsers and . was already part of the syntax for numeric literals (.123, etc) so I had to use something else < 1387695255 494558 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :later on, perl6 also used _ for this purpose (but then they switched to ~) < 1387695292 634547 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :because _ was taken, I needed another character to separate words in identifiers. I chose $ < 1387695324 645804 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :and guess what? javascript does the same thing, treating $ as a letter! < 1387695370 301290 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :conclusion: ploki is full of silly and stupid ideas but also weirdly prophetic sometimes < 1387695451 631119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1387695527 90003 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :it almost-but-not-quite supports functional programming via the @OMFG operator < 1387695665 186058 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, and the documentation is written to make you build a nicely organized mental model of the syntax in your head (a program is a list of statements, a statement contains expressions, expressions look like this ...) < 1387695695 979173 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :but other parts of the language violate this layering < 1387695711 800725 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I had to write a formal grammar for it, I wouldn't even know where to start < 1387697438 973051 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also in some C implementations the $ is also a letter < 1387697794 493663 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at the ploki documentation, and some of the examples, and other stuff on the same server and found this: http://mauke.hopto.org/stuff/img/regex.png I don't know what the symbol in the circle is supposed to be but I think I can understand its meaning, at least. Therefore it also give me the idea to make a label/goto operators in a regular expression < 1387699624 384310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/qzstp.png < 1387699675 697653 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell yea < 1387699930 1640 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387700191 940973 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387700754 922657 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387703059 295618 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might sing in public tomorrow < 1387703067 565128 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck < 1387703080 690417 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Bike probably hasn't heard me singing < 1387705245 16245 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387705515 878140 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387705806 322504 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387705821 751599 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387706315 41194 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: v. fascinating < 1387706702 109032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1387707240 366507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb I think exponentials may have to be involved somewhere, which, for a unit, is most odd <-- "decibels" hth < 1387707240 570578 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387707257 692471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb Also "bits". < 1387707257 927603 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387707265 487873 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387707360 939919 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 deciBel = 0.1 Bel < 1387707371 229520 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody uses Bels though < 1387707391 950026 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody also writes it "deciBel". < 1387707402 605174 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just "decibel (dB)".' < 1387707410 864693 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 6 decibels is twice the power < 1387707442 142213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like three. < 1387707459 913701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, officially only the abbrevations of units named after persons have capitalization. < 1387707470 547593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :newton (N), etc. < 1387707511 959392 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, more like 10*log10(2).) < 1387707543 249119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10*logBase 10 2 < 1387707546 711204 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.0102999566398116 < 1387707575 393651 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387707580 388223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though there's a factor of 2 that often appers in things related to decibels, because of some kind of a square. < 1387707677 482121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :amplitude vs. energy or something like that < 1387707715 571446 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twice the amplitude is four times the power < 1387707734 982725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. So you need a 6 dB change to double the amplitude. < 1387707818 231547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders why they chopped off the "l" in Bell's name
< 1387707870 52110 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only assume that cojazz is the dual of jazz < 1387707899 866137 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's still better than calling the unit "Alexander", though. < 1387707923 404511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then we'd be measuring sound and other thing in decialexanders (dA). < 1387707966 834426 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Actually, jazz is self-dual < 1387708040 668547 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: A is already taken anyway < 1387708057 941296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: have any units been named after someone's first name < 1387708091 70628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dAlex < 1387708159 732804 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of any. I'm sure there's at least some "jokey" thing. < 1387708201 539045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see they mangled Napier's name even worse. < 1387708224 960483 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about Kelvin, I guess that's not exactly a surname? < 1387708247 905786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that it's "William Thomson, 1st Baron Kelvin" or some-suchg. < 1387708253 85529 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1387708256 637612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's presumably a place name < 1387708264 188740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also re Bell -> bel, there's also Faraday -> farad. < 1387708276 453651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right < 1387708284 959427 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And Volta -> volt.) < 1387708298 936208 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was lorded for what he did with thermodynamics though < 1387708311 779957 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The title came from the river Kelvin < 1387708345 387971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Baudot -> baud. < 1387708398 170145 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm going through Wikipedia's "List of scientific units named after people", looking for first names; none so far.) < 1387708512 529578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i somehow associate the custom of nobles (or royals) having surnames distinct from their titles as something british. < 1387708554 406608 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, helens (you know, 1 millihelen is the amount of beauty needed to launch one ship, and so on) are named after a first name. I guess. I mean, I don't suppose Helen of Troy has a recorded surname, anyway. < 1387708685 459771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i was thinking of explicitly excluding any units named after ancients, but couldn't think of any. < 1387708700 611586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Have you ever measured anything in oersteds? < 1387708721 798041 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1387708721 998697 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 24m 41s ago: I think exponentials may have to be involved somewhere, which, for a unit, is most odd <-- "decibels" hth < 1387708722 199728 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 24m 24s ago: Also "bits". < 1387708731 17189 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yeah, I realised < 1387708758 153959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i don't think so. < 1387708809 157463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just thought you might have a natural affinity. < 1387708891 410104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be obsolete (pre-SI) < 1387708915 640676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i dropped out of physics about when i should have got seriously into electromagnetism. < 1387708958 425543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :allergic aversion to lab writeups, terrible case. < 1387709076 972077 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387709130 533223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : anyway coexponentials are left adjoint to coproducts or something?? <-- is there any category that has those and isn't obviously the dual of something more natural. < 1387709207 111336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i note an absense of any prominent wikipedia link. < 1387710982 967118 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387711136 943139 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387711768 926385 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387713049 283969 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387713716 39862 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387715048 46375 :CADD_!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387715048 290237 :CADD_!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Client Quit < 1387716760 44757 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387717248 943373 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387717285 780071 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387717322 82788 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1387717322 287203 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1387718032 905847 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387719817 823708 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387719845 914399 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387719870 215144 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387719885 887393 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387721554 868104 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387721917 869588 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387723063 392080 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [Just (), Nothing] >>= repeat < 1387723065 685567 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Jus... < 1387723090 108789 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type repeat < 1387723091 617700 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> [a] < 1387723115 793587 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [Just (), Nothing] >>= cycle.([]) < 1387723118 205037 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `Data.Maybe.Maybe () -> [b0]' < 1387723118 407068 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `[a0]' < 1387723143 159711 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type cycle.([]) < 1387723145 330807 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `a0 -> [a1]' with actual type `[a2]' < 1387723145 574541 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the second argument of `(.)', namely `([])' < 1387723145 574726 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: cycle . ([]) < 1387723150 612353 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is that? < 1387723181 657428 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought [] is essentially \a -> [a] < 1387723216 602646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t [] < 1387723218 221378 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a] < 1387723234 752652 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ([]) < 1387723236 376173 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a] < 1387723247 886452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you want (:[]) ) < 1387723608 469 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387724169 421923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1387724197 224157 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (:[]) 2 < 1387724199 628397 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2] < 1387724202 581129 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387724802 678468 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robot monkey! < 1387724826 47084 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that (:[]) is just as long as pure < 1387724828 305371 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pure 2 < 1387724831 437114 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Control.Applicative.Applicative f0) < 1387724831 638540 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `e_12' < 1387724831 638711 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable `f0' is ambiguous < 1387724831 638815 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Possible fix: add a type signature that fixes these type variable(s) < 1387724831 638907 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note: there are several potential instances: < 1387724856 475380 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would work if something else depended on it being a list < 1387724870 328518 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t cycle . (:[]) < 1387724872 385684 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> [a] < 1387724887 648176 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the same as repeat < 1387725437 988050 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387725468 706095 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387727236 957905 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387728422 769237 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387728440 527727 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387728865 973519 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387729159 391559 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t pure < 1387729161 511890 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative f => a -> f a < 1387729177 271209 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::i pure < 1387729190 288770 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1387729196 378417 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pure 5 :: Maybe Int < 1387729199 82551 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just 5 < 1387729202 419914 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1387729203 904243 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the same thing as return < 1387729204 302807 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's uhm... < 1387729212 20464 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for applicatives < 1387729216 147351 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :return for applictives? < 1387729259 76680 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t lift < 1387729261 169604 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Monad m, MonadTrans t) => m a -> t m a < 1387729280 78798 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387729282 630055 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (lift id $ 5) :: Maybe Int < 1387729284 751697 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match kind `*' with `* -> *' < 1387729284 956313 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: (->) (Data.Maybe.Maybe GHC.Types.Int) < 1387729284 956473 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> Data.Maybe.Maybe GHC.Types.Int < 1387729284 956570 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Actual type: (->) (Data.Maybe.Maybe GHC.Types.Int) < 1387729284 956665 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> Data.Maybe.Maybe GHC.Types.Int < 1387729306 570325 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm yeah < 1387729309 848449 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does not work that way < 1387729355 454540 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Int does not fit into t m a < 1387729358 901562 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> arr id < 1387729361 81612 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Control.Arrow.Arrow a0) < 1387729361 285490 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `e_1' < 1387729361 285645 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable `a0' is ambiguous < 1387729361 285739 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Possible fix: add a type signature that fixes these type variable(s) < 1387729361 285832 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note: there are several potential instances: < 1387729382 698227 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (lift id $ 5) :: MaybeT Identity Int < 1387729383 702412 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: type constructor or class `MaybeT' < 1387729383 908098 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `Maybe' (imported from Data.Maybe) < 1387729392 788754 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1387729563 964849 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387729979 802214 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387730257 982943 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387730933 867039 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let import Control.Monad.Trans.Maybe < 1387730935 982658 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1387730939 965000 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try again < 1387731066 588495 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it won't work < 1387731235 399378 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387731263 22703 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387731768 194297 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387732705 52405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(>) :: IO t -> FilePath -> IO t; main = putStrLn "Hello, world!" > "foo.txt" < 1387732886 726603 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1387733190 394655 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you use for inequality? < 1387733450 242203 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :| probably can't be used because of guard syntax < 1387735336 931757 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387735353 955588 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387735542 746665 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387735578 289579 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :VERSION < 1387735610 844063 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387735739 286594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :taking this NYT American English dialect quiz < 1387735743 486366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"QUESTION 24 OF 25: What do you call a drive-through liquor store?" < 1387735764 15283 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't believe they exist < 1387735804 366399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gowally.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/double_shot_liquor_guns.jpg < 1387735819 847147 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1387735845 362740 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, screw the real world I am going to watch the Hobbit again < 1387735857 659023 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :drive through hobbits and rings < 1387735905 954090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drive-through volcanoes, for all your on-the-go ring-of-doom unmaking needs. < 1387735924 92262 :jaydubzy!~jaywalker@c-76-124-107-5.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387736108 786770 :andras_!~andras@5402D917.dsl.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387736133 296509 :andras_!~andras@5402D917.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1387736162 115172 :andras_!~andras@5402D917.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PART :#esoteric < 1387736182 487278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dejectedly sets down his `relcome
< 1387736303 524635 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome < 1387736309 442754 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13irc.dal.net.) < 1387736328 957875 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1387736462 200369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome zzo38 < 1387736464 813037 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06zzo38: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04irc.dal.net.) < 1387736492 964923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wow, do you just hate duals < 1387736509 662345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're like http://math.stackexchange.com/q/556921 < 1387737111 940099 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-238.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387737205 578330 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-238.psoas.suomi.net PART :#esoteric < 1387737418 25558 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387739088 343477 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387739126 379628 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387739419 407534 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387739541 749494 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387739614 46165 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387739643 233938 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1387740436 414655 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: there's always ¦ < 1387740528 144188 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but that's an unicode character. Some people can't write it < 1387740566 431649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY'RE ALL UNICODE CHARACTERS < 1387740570 873013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT IS THE POINT OF UNICODE < 1387740571 947865 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahem. < 1387740650 682988 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I meant a character that's outside ASCII < 1387740680 663130 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I can't remember if altgr+shift+< is ¦ on windows se-qwerty too, or if that's a X11 thing < 1387740708 683484 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not printed on the keyboard, so I guess the latter is likely < 1387740714 60277 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¦ is on the backslash/pipe key or me. < 1387740718 509832 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for < 1387740725 777972 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1387740725 983293 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :<>|¦ is on one key for me < 1387740731 327330 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That outburst of rage < 1387740745 669278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387740749 594322 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually there are also many things that aren't available in Unicode, although all ASCII characters are available, at least, and many others (with a lot of confusing and redundancy and other complexities and stupid stuff, though) < 1387740762 224131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: which characters aren't available in Unicode? < 1387740773 590813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Klingon and most other constructed writing systems < 1387740783 549139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though they have semi-official private use area allocations < 1387740808 295772 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION . o O ( and yet Hangul is in the BMP )
< 1387740822 913186 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: probably not, I think someone went a bit crazy mapping altgr-everything in x's keymaps < 1387740830 233907 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, why wouldn't hangul be in the bmp < 1387740841 408107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that hangul is a constructed writing system < 1387740851 380418 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should probably switch to Vector Fonts < 1387740853 156454 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1387740862 215767 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they don't already exist, I call it my invention . < 1387740862 501565 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :| < 1387740864 139165 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1387740877 249873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just happens to be the most popular one by like 5 orders of magnitude < 1387740879 386220 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's no encoding anymore at all < 1387740885 443033 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so | is different from the one with the space inside, although my keyboard's rendition of | has a space inside < 1387740886 333376 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why < 1387740887 121026 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just Vector Graphics STuff < 1387740909 711295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I think http://www.wps.com/J/codes/ has far more than you could ever want to know on this subject < 1387740911 283276 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... you wouldn't need a font anymore . < 1387740923 639616 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you'll fine most writing systems are constructed :colbert: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cangjie2.jpg < 1387740925 352835 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The text is already in vector graphics form. < 1387740940 610904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1387740955 755732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Legend has it that he had four eyes and four pupils, and that when he invented the characters, the deities and ghosts cried and the sky rained millet" < 1387740993 710331 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: how would copy/paste work? < 1387740995 434759 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: you know, being able to choose a font is actually an advantage. < 1387741006 160303 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, no, copy/paste would work < 1387741017 6820 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you'd be stuck with the formatting of the original, I think < 1387741037 815481 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Why wouldn't that work < 1387741042 141947 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just character after character < 1387741059 203569 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same way it works with Bitmap Fonts essentially < 1387741081 160270 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a fixed grid < 1387741082 587611 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uhm < 1387741088 4804 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :10px high, 8 px wide < 1387741096 419659 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there actual code-points involved, or is every 'character' just an image, with no way to compare between 'fonts'? < 1387741101 250987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: it's rather inconvenient to manipulate text when it's stored as individual strokes < 1387741110 323804 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :A character is a description of its appearance < 1387741131 403830 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, suppose I have a website written by a very smart person, but they used a Comic Sans like font < 1387741140 740825 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good supposition < 1387741142 717537 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to copy something they said into an email to some professional person < 1387741157 426358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: is this person named Simon Peyton Jones < 1387741169 864131 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I do that while stripping the bad formatting? Or do I just say "Sorry, the person who wrote this used Comic Sans"? < 1387741226 644775 :VERSION!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387741344 733724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what if you want to, say, index or search or translate text < 1387741371 736459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: you could just store every document as an svg with no text in it < 1387741375 690312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't mean this is in any way a good idea < 1387741387 607212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, fonts don't have fixed grids, generally < 1387741393 771211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(monospaced ones are the exception, and even then...) < 1387741516 227965 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i can remember any language-inventors more colorful than cangjie < 1387741525 481552 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. wikipedia has an article. < 1387741539 958542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the process which takes a font and a sequence of codepoints and outputs a vector image is called text shaping and it's very complicated < 1387741540 314990 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, none of them will be more badass than Sequoyah, anyway < 1387741570 417506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: true facts. < 1387741725 407598 :iamcal!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yhwrnorgqwyqcgel QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387741746 227368 :conehead_!uid16140@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-skqsfmlekhessody QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387741752 83386 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387741769 829830 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387741953 605982 :iamcal!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cmwfqsmhyzgpwtbz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387741958 542058 :_46bit!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vksehfkiscttnjhi JOIN :#esoteric < 1387741982 514960 :_46bit!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vksehfkiscttnjhi NICK :Guest80779 < 1387742072 868470 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lcxaxklselyrxqwv JOIN :#esoteric < 1387742149 878180 :conehead!uid16140@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bfmhatldhsnfmuru JOIN :#esoteric < 1387742476 941560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387743745 150264 :xstefeN!~xstefen@unaffiliated/xstefen JOIN :#esoteric < 1387744409 471320 :xstefeN!~xstefen@unaffiliated/xstefen PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1387744485 656724 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1387744625 400912 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned today: the most arbitrary-looking numeric limit ever: http://sprunge.us/PeNV < 1387744653 796127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1387744739 841294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's in the ballpark of 80 bits... maybe they added 80 bit support for x87 < 1387744741 700646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't quite add up though < 1387744982 165533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's something more complicated, since it's not even consistent: http://sprunge.us/ePMZ < 1387744997 421125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1387745049 675940 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x00001000000000000000000000000000 is also okay. < 1387745056 521434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just gdb gdb. < 1387745064 870952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's some sort of "can be exactly represented in some type" kind of thing. < 1387745101 746704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It doesn't actually set the correct value even when it doesn't complain, if it's >64 bits, so...) < 1387745222 373828 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387745262 340022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/cFNW yes, I'm going to go with "is exact for an 80-bit long double" kind of thing. (That has 64 bits of precision, as I recall.) < 1387745364 486173 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you should put together a "wat" talk for GDB < 1387745447 103898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing that really frustrated me is that there's no easy way to examine a memory operand of the form %fs:0x70 < 1387745494 657418 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ended up writing a .c file with «unsigned long foo() { unsigned long x; asm volatile("mov %%fs:0x70, %0" : "=r"(x)); return x; }» and compiling it to a .so and pulling it in with LD_PRELOAD and calling «print foo()» within GDB < 1387745506 593289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit roundabout although I'm very pleased with myself < 1387745646 43575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could probably write a macro, I've seen some quite hairy gdb macros. < 1387745675 10114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would it work though? < 1387745689 504460 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387745726 29284 :wlee23!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387745815 586366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. I guess you can't get the segment bases in any sensible way. < 1387745847 174843 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could force the traced process to call arch_prctl(ARCH_GET_FS) < 1387746566 17226 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387746623 48757 :wlee23!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387746739 139920 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"“I had a sex dream about an autistic kid last night. #fml.".. are people offended by the 'kid', by the '#fml'... or just at the notion of sex with an autistic person? < 1387746770 435185 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if it's the latter, that's kind of offensive, to suggest that autistic people shouldn't have sex < 1387746780 410994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387746791 752915 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i interpreted it as the "fml" < 1387746796 669451 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps the kid < 1387746799 650091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm missing the context here < 1387746811 780218 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'autistic kid' connotes someone who's not "high-functioning" and probably not capable of consent, to me, at least in that context < 1387746820 984301 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: some PR person tweeted something offensive recently, and that quote was another tweet from earlier people got offended about < 1387746842 527448 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this reporter(??) who got suspended for tweeting something like "i'm going to Africa, hope i don't get aids, oh wait i'm white" < 1387746848 98448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1387746855 286430 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387746858 3193 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2013/12/upper_level_pr_exec_tweets_that_she_is_going_to_africa_hope_i_don_t_get.html < 1387746880 20816 :wlee23!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387746913 849643 :wlee23!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 QUIT :Client Quit < 1387746921 846579 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i don't see why you'd be offended by someone's dreams. presumably they have no control over such things. (on the other hand, why would you tweet your sex dreams?) < 1387746948 551438 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have made mention of some of my sexual dreams online < 1387746969 466390 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo please stop < 1387746984 775740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's up to her who she wants to have sex with but saying in public that people in this or that group are unfuckable is an asshole move < 1387747028 534206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have definitely talked about sex dreams in #esoteric < 1387747180 716635 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have this cool thing going where a) i'm a rich white guy b) i work in an industry with v. low standards for personal conduct c) i'm nobody and nobody really cares what i say < 1387747195 510627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can talk about all kinds of embarassing things and it's fine < 1387747274 589117 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's more along the lines of like, 99% of the time a privileged person talks about having sex with it's basicaly always either insulting or fetishization or some mix <.< < 1387747374 877940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387747449 742793 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387747587 122120 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387747617 289541 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I've been learning about the big personalities in the webcomic world. < 1387747652 371601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is starting to wonder exactly how rich kmc is.
< 1387747670 116868 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a very exciting reality show could be created just by putting them all in one room < 1387747701 197382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc actually owns Bike, shachaf and Gracenotes_ < 1387747717 296100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be clear, I think it's a good thing that I won't be fired for talking about sex dreams in #esoteric, but I don't think that should extend to racism sexism ableism etc. < 1387747743 638631 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you... think you should be fired for those things < 1387747804 804754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I act that way in public yeah, depending on circumstances < 1387747848 236039 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how far does 'public' extend < 1387747849 26582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well I have a job so I feel pretty well off by the standards of the new american economy < 1387747871 957523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1387747886 544341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i dunno I don't really feel like getting into this in depth < 1387747894 760303 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1387748022 775930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are there 3 different incompatible systems for rating HVAC filter effectiveness < 1387748190 277651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google HVAC < 1387748191 165497 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HVAC < 1387748191 370011 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: HVAC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < 1387748201 664582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: why thank you lambdabot < 1387748219 20275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's metasepia when you need it < 1387748238 326555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google HVAC definition < 1387748239 132398 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Result Found. < 1387748257 198325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn HVAC < 1387748258 464721 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "HVAC". < 1387748272 262264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's because there's no such thing hth < 1387748295 419395 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387748498 191715 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: heating and central air < 1387748535 227738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that poor peripheral air gets no love < 1387748566 970782 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387748621 159990 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: he only has a lease on me! ...ok, no, i had a lot of debts ok < 1387748637 60863 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sure it does. i know plenty of folks and businesses with window units. < 1387748646 850265 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is not uncommon for bikes to be owned anyway < 1387748767 351629 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387748773 154178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if kmc owns me p. sure he's obligated to fix me when i'm broken < 1387748776 625819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like right now < 1387748850 971958 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you try sleeping? hth < 1387748858 70901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes hth < 1387748889 525885 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1387748926 264090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Things like Klingon aren't the only things not available in Unicode. Also some of the characters (including control characters) from the Commodore 64 and other computers. (All of the PC characters are available, though.) < 1387748987 999378 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, shit, shut it all down < 1387749156 145558 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387749305 336067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a dual killed galois, you know < 1387749364 867362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote galois < 1387749365 72690 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sclv says: Q: Why are the adjunctions of Galois connections backwards? A: He never got the hang of duals. < 1387749376 66801 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1387749380 932956 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :honk < 1387750078 974674 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387750270 645982 :conehead!uid16140@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bfmhatldhsnfmuru NICK :conehead_ < 1387750334 251286 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387750358 16915 :wlee23!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387750379 865757 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387750428 638256 :Guest80779!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vksehfkiscttnjhi NICK :_46bit_ < 1387750526 738320 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387750564 630994 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387750690 25673 :wlee23!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I found my favorite idea for a possible language. < 1387750705 948876 :wlee23!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Final Fantasy, where you have to code 200 lines before your program STARTS to have meaning. < 1387750752 217134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's in interesting esolang idea even without the refrence < 1387750757 677441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*reference < 1387750862 124158 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that fairly common depending on your interpretation < 1387751022 124509 :wlee23!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's on the website, I stumbled upon it. < 1387751029 955425 :wlee23!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, and yeah that is true. < 1387751040 779775 :wlee23!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, y'all take care, I'm off to see Frozen. < 1387751119 602777 :wlee23!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 QUIT :Quit: https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRwtqOc7l3gJkXIrqQ9aqc_5SuyF3V4TOltgZm8s3TMd9h_ZOb1 < 1387751432 551862 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody know of a synchronization tool similar to rsync but with a source cache so it can avoid communication with the destination whatsoever if the source hasn't changed? < 1387751761 557973 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mashable.com/2013/12/21/gogo-justine-sacco/ < 1387751997 494730 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a synchronisation tool Sgeo_ < 1387752682 548439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddenly has this idea that someone should invent a drug that makes you forget which people are acceptable joke targets. then put it in the water supply across the northern hemisphere.
< 1387752726 45245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, that might end up as a prelude to another remake of On the Beach. < 1387752837 841628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe a james bond movie. < 1387752854 982566 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387752963 485104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps a drug that makes you find _all_ jokes offensive. < 1387753001 497670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, why not both. < 1387753071 284513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to put the latter joke into the chinese water supply though, it wouldn't make a difference anyhow. < 1387753076 316517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1387753078 200354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*drug < 1387753098 43974 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :putting jokes into the water supply really waters them down. < 1387753112 628415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true fact. < 1387753117 238073 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes the water taste funny though < 1387753162 639025 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurrrrrr. < 1387753226 449118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it bad when your main prejudice against an ethnicity is that they're ridiculously sensitive < 1387753250 721194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hi swedes, chinese) < 1387753508 43276 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :are swedes ridiculously sensitive? < 1387753519 749834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the difference is that the chinese are sensitive about themselves, while the swedes are sensitive about everyone else) < 1387753548 676095 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right < 1387753604 322254 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the swedish press would certainly make it seem that way at least < 1387753614 343032 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're trying to pit the overly sensitive half against the people who get outraged how people can be so overly sensitive and get offended by silly stuff < 1387753700 177530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds profitable. also: timbuktu. < 1387753727 489254 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : are swedes ridiculously sensitive? < 1387753728 891088 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387753737 970012 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone is always asking me, "why do you hate the swedes" < 1387753747 502910 :JM_329!~JM_@186.14.100.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387753747 731204 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there was some sort of controversy involving him, right? do you know what it was about? < 1387753751 943311 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :as though i need a justification < 1387753766 288801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no i don't remember < 1387753771 53670 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :also oerjan that cake incident indicates otherwise < 1387753783 161001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which cake < 1387753797 475123 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: do you hate the swedes? < 1387753799 126209 :JM_329!~JM_@186.14.100.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1387753812 92953 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, i don't hate you, you are the one exception < 1387753813 196500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wehlcome JM_329 < 1387753814 466832 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wehlcome: not found < 1387753820 562157 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Phantom_Hoover < 1387753821 724043 :JM_329!~JM_@186.14.100.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks Oerjan < 1387753821 913462 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Phantom_Hoover. Thantom_Hoover. < 1387753823 881207 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :my theory is that you were abducted from finland or norway at birth < 1387753842 877888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE JM_329 < 1387753845 660511 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jm_329: WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: . (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1387753862 803207 :JM_329!~JM_@186.14.100.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My I know the topic, please? < 1387753913 508136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's right there in HackEgo's response. although i guess it's a bit heavy on the CamelCase. < 1387753944 288855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about esoteric programming languages < 1387753958 467880 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should really put that in the topic, but people prefer jokes for some reason < 1387753959 573079 :JM_329!~JM_@186.14.100.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay...thanks Ais523 < 1387753966 85460 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog development and deployment < 1387753973 928430 :JM_329!~JM_@186.14.100.142 QUIT :Client Quit < 1387753997 263099 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387754000 284928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog development and deployment < 1387754013 701168 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-06-18.txt:00:01:28: -!- oklofok changed the topic of #esoteric to: The coolest ever international hub for esoteric programming language design, development and deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric < 1387754054 837719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i thought the welcome message was based on that old topic < 1387754065 822524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1387754075 969850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't read it in the stupid welcomes < 1387754084 987665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think for new people, we should stick to the standard `welcome < 1387754135 456899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should say "development" rather than "deployment". < 1387754145 168852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it even mean to deploy an esoteric programming language? < 1387754165 879045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you're deploying befunge, right? < 1387754166 478177 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't watch too many videos at home, somebody remind me to update my development platform, but hey, it's fun < 1387754182 963889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1387754183 328649 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t repeat < 1387754184 363121 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> [a] < 1387754201 23643 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : we should really put that in the topic, but people prefer jokes for some reason < 1387754221 531914 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :we must never forget the importance of being unflinchingly humourless < 1387754239 924537 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, though, it's basically impossible to use this channel for its intended purpose any more < 1387754247 702896 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I consider social channels mostly uninteresting < 1387754265 982653 :jaydubzy!~jaywalker@c-76-124-107-5.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1387754278 733464 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mscs.dal.ca/~selinger/papers/qlambdabook.pdf < 1387754636 23884 :JM780!~JM@186.14.100.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387754683 130880 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello JM780 < 1387754683 588499 :JM780!~JM@186.14.100.142 QUIT :Client Quit < 1387754691 1510 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :goody JM780 < 1387755282 506330 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I've found that when someone starts discussing esolangs everyone else normally follows < 1387755318 232799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no, like one person normally follows, for like 5 minutes :-( < 1387756843 168632 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :) < 1387757276 986883 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387758068 996673 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387758558 826024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1387758911 833157 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: esolang esolang Esolang. esolang? < 1387759360 916203 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387759833 152344 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387759940 960310 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387760838 917542 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387760981 944880 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387761315 761802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1387761413 741657 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387762071 987121 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 259 seconds < 1387762250 698508 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1387763978 665988 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387764189 117917 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387764455 300075 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@217.196.214.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387765059 912725 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387767474 517249 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387767700 942126 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1387767779 546171 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1387768093 19742 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387768199 864355 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PART :#esoteric < 1387768650 153777 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1387768790 988286 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1387768853 793180 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1387768874 571147 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1387768914 775 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387769043 871475 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387769771 877365 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387770159 203844 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1387770586 376311 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387772069 732619 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-73.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387772188 910061 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-166.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387772695 916736 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-166.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387772721 849208 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387773435 917381 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1387773491 911016 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1387773703 18515 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387773726 709740 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: Hey! Just finished the groundwork for my brainfuck compiler! < 1387773781 478199 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonderful! < 1387773807 229848 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: Have you compiled anything with it yet? < 1387773833 998882 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, by groundwork I mean: I've gotten the File IO stuff taken care of with C (which I'm still shaky with) < 1387773847 13034 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can pass two arguments, one for the text file, one for the output c file. < 1387773861 957109 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good! < 1387773875 31318 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :File I/O in C is always nasty imho. < 1387773887 856123 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, it works! Now I'm working on the actual reading of information from the first file, clearly. Can write to second file, but reading is, well, nasty. < 1387773943 76913 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I've finished, I'll put it on Github, if you'd like to see if you can help clean it up, please! < 1387773957 556815 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent, I'd be happy to! :) < 1387774029 495403 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great, I've only been working for about twenty minutes, I'll see what I can do before I knock out tonight. I'll stay on the channel in case I finish early. < 1387774082 974504 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ever vigilant is the programmer, armed with his knowledge of code. I wish you the best of luck. :) < 1387774096 915701 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1387774110 88644 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that why everyone just idles < 1387774121 82469 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also singular they ftw < 1387774145 799844 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When you do, what do you?" is very sofe du phil < 1387774186 779167 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it just < 1387774207 390647 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like reading it when I log on haha < 1387774211 882728 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I giggle, then think < 1387774230 652139 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y u do what do you do? < 1387774281 227010 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like < 1387774288 806610 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: i like you, who are you? < 1387774297 668192 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you the usual one < 1387774309 524864 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there is a full 20 page continuation of that I shit you not. < 1387774339 152864 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: He joined yesterday. < 1387774343 926894 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a usual edward < 1387774382 615776 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few haskell-edwards < 1387774383 802696 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in france i was talking to some people and i saw this poster on some logic that has call/cc and i said "ooh what's that now" and forgot the people existed < 1387774392 101636 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, edwardk < 1387774397 947625 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that usual edward < 1387774406 646654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :logic that has call/cc = classical logic? < 1387774425 878884 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by classical logic? < 1387774436 814262 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1387774448 407482 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't know in what sense any logic has call/cc < 1387774463 239546 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the poster was not very specific :( < 1387774466 661318 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :logic with call/cc is equivalent to classical predicate logic or some shit like that i think < 1387774469 711509 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387774478 276199 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys have so much to teach me < 1387774494 194348 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha < 1387774520 696001 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that'd be more helpful if i knew what "logic" means < 1387774527 958985 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1387774530 577092 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :formal logic? < 1387774544 454340 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387774547 432632 :mauke_!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1387774575 401707 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Curry-Howard correspondence between proofs and programs relates call/cc to Peirce's law." < 1387774579 399755 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :says wikipedia < 1387774582 768410 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a new Edward, hence the double underscore < 1387774584 880585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: classical logic is the kind with ¬¬p → p < 1387774586 579096 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys knew this and never told me? :( < 1387774603 309701 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I joined last night, and LinearInterpol has mentored me ever since hahaha < 1387774605 547278 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't tell how serious anyone's being right now, help < 1387774609 404199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: type systems give you constructive logic by default but the type of call/cc is Peirce's Law and adding that as an axiom to a constructive logic makes it classical < 1387774675 919901 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: totes. < 1387774695 657577 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh. < 1387774708 461789 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds awesome < 1387774731 407390 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only know peirce's law from reading metamath < 1387774731 595533 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ｈｅｌｐ < 1387774753 796741 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to prove (p ∨ ¬p), make a baseless assertion that ¬p, but also capture the current continuation. if somebody calls BS on your claim by providing a witness for p, use the continuation to go back in time and say that p was true all along < 1387774756 300458 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there's a decent chance i would actually like reading peirce directly, hmmmmm < 1387774781 275473 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta learn me some abduction < 1387774797 342859 :mauke_!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke NICK :mauke < 1387774824 942606 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ooh would like to see some detail on that < 1387774828 564924 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION takes pants off
< 1387774831 931588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1387774836 196800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that got weird < 1387774846 752121 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably ripe for esolangs too reall y < 1387774855 177407 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1387774860 917691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... i like weird < 1387774870 296175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway uh i don't have that much more detail... I could write out a term with the right type in Haskell's Cont monad, given enough time, but I probably won't < 1387774879 20569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe someone else can do it or find it in the logs < 1387774937 913870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should also prove that ∀p. ¬¬p → p is equivalent to ∀p. (p ∨ ¬p) maybe < 1387774961 481771 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should think that's more well known < 1387774970 116672 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i should first try to recall how peirce's law works < 1387774986 862520 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean iirc i was able to find it obvious last time i looked < 1387774994 88298 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it took some time < 1387775060 136555 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that it's needed for understanding how it corresponds to call/cc prolly, if indeed it's the type of it < 1387775083 897459 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ((p -> q) -> p) -> p < 1387775090 350646 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that the type of call/cc? < 1387775109 234647 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wit < 1387775111 171065 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait* < 1387775120 811492 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t callCC < 1387775121 597383 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :MonadCont m => ((a -> m b) -> m a) -> m a < 1387775121 785492 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is all predicate logic from discrete math < 1387775131 756977 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jk Monads are wholly different. < 1387775158 517172 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea why callCC has that type, of course. < 1387775161 443121 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, guys... I found something worse than hating yourself for missing a semicolon from not paying attention < 1387775181 974512 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: thank you for joining us stupids :) < 1387775185 901835 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgetting to add a semicolon on a file that you're creating with a program from not paying attention... < 1387775198 820611 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know what MonadCont is < 1387775210 818496 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nesting problems makes them more annoying < 1387775211 596957 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's just a typeclass for Cont because I don't know? HASKELL < 1387775216 744959 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1387775223 155212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah because you might have a monad transformer stack with ContT in it somewhere < 1387775232 75171 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway so callcc takes a function that returns a thingie, i got that much < 1387775240 405971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well a continuation has type (a → ⊥) because you call it and it doesn't return < 1387775241 695587 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that function takes a function that takes a non-thingie and makes a thingie out of it < 1387775253 87796 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which.. i guess is the continuation, ok. < 1387775257 989515 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's sort of like (∀b. a → b) < 1387775280 173573 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a "non-thingie"? < 1387775286 686611 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a value not in the cont monad. < 1387775298 569306 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: update, got the reading working. I'll be done in just a little, hopefully. < 1387775299 590387 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody's probably having a heart attack from my use of wordes < 1387775308 74549 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so call/cc calls a function of type (∀b. a → b) → a, i.e. passing a continuation as the argument, and the function can also return an 'a' normally < 1387775314 518641 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right ok, makes sense < 1387775322 626981 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it can also call the continuation on an a and that returns it right off < 1387775328 297395 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and uh you can hoist the ∀ out to top level because *handwave* < 1387775330 757915 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the, callcc thing. < 1387775341 549477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I remember encountering a situation where I wanted the rank-3 callCC with the ∀ inside < 1387775349 337046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's usually good enough to have it on the outside < 1387775357 863721 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Law of excluded middle continuations can be made too, similar to how kmc described above < 1387775361 129956 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can always instantiate it with Void. < 1387775380 791414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use void elimination wherever I need to use it polymorphically? yeah good point < 1387775384 524928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I called it "lemCC", though, rather than whatever the proper name is (if there is one) < 1387775389 63684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is that elimination or introduction? i can never keep 'em straight) < 1387775416 592527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elimination, I guess, since you're consuming it. < 1387775466 635545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :om nom nom < 1387775504 862863 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a more proper name for such a thing? lemCC :: Either a (a -> Cont r b) < 1387775506 566954 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what element of a does it return? < 1387775518 234510 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does what return < 1387775518 430537 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one coming off the continuation... never? < 1387775523 676848 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1387775531 93421 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the call of the function with the current continuation < 1387775538 293783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, that's uninhabited in Haskell. < 1387775540 703641 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so confuzzled < 1387775547 409714 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinkin a this like scheme because ha ha haskell < 1387775559 87609 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :call/cc takes a "continuation" which we pretend is a function from things to bottom < 1387775568 944747 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, it takes a function that takes a continuation < 1387775577 705130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can always make a continuation a separate type rather than pretending it's a function. < 1387775580 533683 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the function can also just never call the continuation, returning normally < 1387775595 506469 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i don't know what (∀b. a → b) actually means < 1387775614 711354 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but then it wouldn't look like peirce's law? or something?? i only know peirce from like mapmaking and shit < 1387775641 174767 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it can return a value of any possible type i think? and the only value that fits that is bottom < 1387775648 352760 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or undefined w/e types values fuck fuck fuck < 1387775670 376536 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: OK, fine. < 1387775701 890817 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it mean it has all possible types? is that the same as saying it has both types a -> int and a -> string, since int \cap string is empty? < 1387775702 136806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's so much backlog/scrollback/whatever is it worth reading < 1387775720 340128 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it only goes back like ten minutes < 1387775721 166884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: There's no real notion of \cap of types. < 1387775727 473941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes but y'all talk so much < 1387775750 587002 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok five screens, and that's on my ridiculous x600 screen < 1387775753 105675 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess the intersection of two types should always be empty < 1387775757 409012 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they are not the same < 1387775784 202334 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so can you have a function with both types a -> int and a -> string? < 1387775784 456982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok what's the question at hand here < 1387775791 593596 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :callCC < 1387775794 478901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Yes, using polymorphism. < 1387775801 390334 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the a -> m b part particularly < 1387775812 192902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a function of type (forall b. a -> b), it means the caller can pick what b is. < 1387775814 745922 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you cannot have something of type (∀b. a → b) using polymorphism? < 1387775821 825642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can. < 1387775829 584462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, such a type is uninhabited in Haskell. < 1387775834 113705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can express the type. < 1387775842 113015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Correct that is because I made a mistake. < 1387775847 309416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well, it might be clearer to pretend you had first-class callCC. < 1387775851 198563 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it's uninhabited? What's the continuation then < 1387775852 388354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be: Cont r (Either a (a -> Cont r b)) < 1387775852 576398 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it uninhabited? because it should work also for empty b? < 1387775855 897279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is what I meant < 1387775857 187171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. ccc :: ((a -> b) -> a) -> a < 1387775858 838724 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's first class call cc gosh < 1387775861 598519 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1387775866 409416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No "m"s to get in the way. < 1387775877 842817 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can figure out the ms later. < 1387775889 129970 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's it uninhabited though < 1387775909 332400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, (forall b. Int -> b) means that you give me an Int and I give you something of any type you like. < 1387775919 267103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But some types are uninhabited, so obviously I can't do that. < 1387775919 455069 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \x -> undefined < 1387775920 174198 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :t -> a < 1387775922 936813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, fine. < 1387775928 954773 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, good < 1387775930 565525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uninhabited if you ignore _|_. < 1387775937 927772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is still a mistake because it should be ContT and that stuff, but hopefully now is understandable) < 1387775940 59013 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the function itself isn't bottom, riht? < 1387775970 663591 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, is forall b. a -> b a roundabout way of saying a function with a bottom return type, or what. < 1387775984 924623 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should really stop conflating bottom and undefined, huh < 1387776001 306829 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Uninhabited if you ignore _|_." and isn't this value exactly why the type is useful, if you can then do continuation stuff with this sort of type? < 1387776002 876968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, don't confuse the type ⊥ with the value ⊥ (which is a member of every type) < 1387776010 416945 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i meant right < 1387776026 81686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The type _|_ and the value _|_ have almost nothing to do with each other. < 1387776028 206954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have the value ⊥ in all the types in your language then your logic is unsound for actual logic < 1387776028 941036 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay what Bike said i guess < 1387776031 881025 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh, i see. < 1387776033 615833 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're both minimal in two different (semi)lattices. < 1387776034 672392 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can use that value to prove any proposition < 1387776037 457125 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the type bottom doesn't have the value bottom in it < 1387776043 120003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does in Haskell. < 1387776045 159631 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: Sorry, was AFK. Awesome, now the next step is to parse it. :) < 1387776051 767006 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION flips a table over
< 1387776059 227105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ok ok look < 1387776066 144309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is bad for logic < 1387776073 805152 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad as hell and i'm not going to take it any more < 1387776083 256645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :every type has an extra inhabitant representing non-termination or whatever < 1387776085 717001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :called _|_ < 1387776089 830956 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna start a stupid ass tv show where i just yell pointlessly at everything < 1387776092 698890 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it cheating if I use the translations that Wikipedia provides? < 1387776097 467871 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1387776100 177194 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. < 1387776103 427278 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great. < 1387776107 452800 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost done then ;) < 1387776108 906718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :let x = x in x, or undefined, or whatever are all considered equivalent and we call them all _|_ < 1387776136 809437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually looking at a value of type _|_ is equivalent to your program going into an infinite loop (and/or crashing, whatever) < 1387776139 173658 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: Tip: if on a unix system, have an option to write to standard output. < 1387776149 926044 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of just a .c file. < 1387776151 463710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when we talk about haskell as logic we pretend _|_ doesn't exist because it makes it nice < 1387776156 214843 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way you can pipe it directly into GCC. < 1387776166 457396 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the curry-howard isomorphism for haskell's types work if you say a type is true if it contains a non-bottom value < 1387776175 423762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for the purpose of this entire discussion we'll pretend the value _|_ (undefined, infinite loops, whatever) doesn't exist < 1387776177 916726 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting to think talking about logic in haskell might, in fact, be kind of silly?? < 1387776192 486928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking is fine because you can play pretend < 1387776204 220860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :implementing is p. bad, which is why haskell isn't a theorem proving system < 1387776206 677925 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but then why not use something that isn't haskell. < 1387776220 113129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you already kind of know haskell and it's good enough at expressing all these concepts < 1387776221 482629 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: Great idea. I'll implement it tomorrow though, I need sleep haha. For now I'll just do the C file. < 1387776227 996420 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, was that my fault? maybe it was me who brought up call c c < 1387776231 21750 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the function < 1387776234 407429 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a language derived from haskell that wasa theory proving system. < 1387776239 891240 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*was a < 1387776248 131762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you thinking of agda < 1387776255 2685 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe so, yes. < 1387776262 307137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :agda is good and you can get many useful haskell intuitions from it < 1387776266 656377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but imo let's stick with haskell < 1387776267 656507 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that there dependent types language. < 1387776281 581673 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again it was me who asked and i don't know haskell :( < 1387776293 106012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is LinearInterpol actually = oklopol? < 1387776301 276689 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no love for the *pol < 1387776309 335922 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone. everyone thinks that. < 1387776325 557822 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i say all the _really_ stupid stuff with my other nick. < 1387776326 611916 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: maybe you should change your nick < 1387776334 536644 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to what, CubicCIA? < 1387776336 154803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :to RJones or something < 1387776340 833617 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :RJones is good to < 1387776342 153706 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1387776343 870790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1387776344 156500 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okoko < 1387776347 35998 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokoko < 1387776348 549922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANWAY < 1387776349 697067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y < 1387776349 966592 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw that, I'm keepin' this. < 1387776354 799119 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lul i have to go to work < 1387776358 733665 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :see u. < 1387776363 315119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok who actually wants to me to talk about this thing < 1387776366 266737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone < 1387776372 242292 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if(anyone){} < 1387776374 702418 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :me, but we can do that later. < 1387776478 343692 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it like five am in france < 1387776487 40282 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm in finland already < 1387776496 418133 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it like five am in finland < 1387776500 3316 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 7:30 here and 6:30 in france < 1387776506 674404 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckers < 1387776542 320206 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :like all mathematicians who can work whenever the fuck they like, i wake up at 6 every morning < 1387776555 966933 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and usually wank around here for an hour asdkfj) < 1387776565 224190 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it like being compltely incompreensible < 1387776596 565022 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a practise but is worth. < 1387776601 758628 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft. < 1387776605 843881 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 AM? < 1387776610 238948 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try 3. < 1387776621 694885 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah well i wake up at ten... pm < 1387776624 55156 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to, but life got in the way < 1387776628 816818 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1387776630 120740 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's responsible. < 1387776633 210010 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :srs. < 1387776640 203531 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's early < 1387776642 798091 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be going to sleep soon in fact so i ccan wake up on time < 1387776645 81876 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :put us all in our place < 1387776648 547158 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see you in half an hour < 1387776652 609660 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1387776654 188441 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :byes. < 1387776655 455422 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet dreams. < 1387776666 461419 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :had to put my family up in a hotel. < 1387776672 624698 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :freakin' ice storm. < 1387776789 419034 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live in Southeastern USA. < 1387776791 673208 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's snow? < 1387776822 127694 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :snow is a filthy demon that we have to fight back with shovels and beards. < 1387776825 393590 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly beards. < 1387776834 353173 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't have those here in the Bible Belt. < 1387776838 243617 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those belong to the Devil. < 1387776839 200530 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1387776842 765754 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I chortled. < 1387776846 891848 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bible Belt" < 1387776866 111390 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the worst place to be an Agnostic... < 1387776873 545006 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God help you. < 1387776873 827748 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my mother is a pastor :) < 1387776876 620529 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh wait..) < 1387776883 338771 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha. < 1387776883 526721 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look up. < 1387776910 846528 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brother's an Atheist, at least she can say "Edward's just having doubts" < 1387776918 785376 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff. < 1387776935 43586 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Issue, my Terminal won't open after crashing it after an infinite loop... < 1387776945 836695 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl+C! < 1387776949 248248 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl+C damnit! < 1387776967 277199 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1387776982 540047 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could always kill it from MacOS' task viewer. < 1387776990 542813 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MacOS's. < 1387776992 253213 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on Ubuntu < 1387776995 552591 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do? < 1387776997 57915 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1387776998 59177 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jinkies. < 1387777006 609492 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :New to Linux < 1387777008 713647 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alt+Left/Right < 1387777010 736471 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Log in. < 1387777010 924733 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could work fine on Mac lol < 1387777019 85012 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually... < 1387777021 400607 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kill your term process. < 1387777025 131500 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finished the project. < 1387777032 498270 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need a bit of tidying. < 1387777039 973918 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll send it to you tomorrow instead of tonight, okay> < 1387777044 794866 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1387777050 931483 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For now, I think I'm off to sleep < 1387777052 718405 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome. < 1387777058 530588 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks so much! < 1387777061 54961 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rest easy, I think I'll do the same. < 1387777073 59739 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, you wrote the code. :) < 1387777084 542114 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a party at night, so I'll try and catch you in the morning. < 1387777088 202571 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your timezone? < 1387777098 151830 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EST. < 1387777103 459522 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 12:38am for me. < 1387777106 41530 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. great. < 1387777107 508810 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likewise. < 1387777108 792481 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same on. < 1387777115 376567 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one*... < 1387777120 80282 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The east coast is a cruel bitch. < 1387777132 853710 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends... Where are you? < 1387777138 501103 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maine. < 1387777148 459874 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An ice storm just hit. < 1387777157 433757 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is.. wonderful. < 1387777160 261039 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh pretty. I'm in Atlanta, so nowhere near as scenic. Or snowy. < 1387777188 757249 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least we don't have any damn bilboards. < 1387777194 700393 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1387777204 141121 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'll be on until noon or 1pm, hope to catch you! < 1387777210 273521 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Peace. :) < 1387777216 624937 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 QUIT :Quit: "Oh no, I'm melting." < 1387777227 449486 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish I was fucking melting. < 1387777289 570226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your nick is too long and too capitalized. < 1387777311 549576 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"linear" was taken and I don't like RJones. Sue me. < 1387777320 972922 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could always go back to my gamertag. Frostitute. < 1387777377 358139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could go with "affine". < 1387777384 344381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's taken. < 1387777389 229611 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net NICK :fourier < 1387777392 298540 :fourier!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit. < 1387777403 301468 :fourier!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :taken. < 1387777430 981815 :fourier!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387777449 683227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could just go with "oklopol". < 1387777461 776934 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get that. < 1387777474 984210 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you could go with "relevant". < 1387777484 596609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's even more obscure than "affine"! < 1387777520 150938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not taken. < 1387777523 224150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And always relevant. < 1387777568 12578 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net NICK :relevant < 1387777572 779357 :relevant!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :son of a bitch it isn't taken. < 1387777581 797870 :relevant!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'tis now. < 1387778955 918507 :relevant!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387781304 15787 :noooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387781568 521536 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it turns out I did find some mistakes (and omissions) in this dream.txt file; I typed "isomorphic" but I meant "isometric" and fixed it; also some things I omitted before, I added in, and so on. < 1387782428 709323 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387782536 133424 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8731765/Pictures%20and%20video/Glimpses%20of%20reality/don%27t%20do%20it.jpg it's cool how domain specific languages always seem to be esolangs < 1387782623 234922 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an esolang that involves stupid ownership information < 1387782715 232151 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Do they? Well, even in esolang wiki there is information about prehistory of esoteric programming, and Dada Engine is mentioned on Wikipedia as an example too but I am not so sure. However, one thing that is mentioned on esolang wiki, is Automouse. < 1387782756 75907 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: And what is the program in the picture? < 1387782814 225936 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Furthermore, what operations is the error message refering to? < 1387782821 953907 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: ownership information? < 1387782972 27954 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it controls robots, like car manufacturing ones < 1387782977 502304 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea what it does < 1387783079 182171 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i guess i can surmise that it's a program to pick up an object and put it down somewhere else. < 1387783579 139625 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This looks like the assembly language of the robot < 1387783590 190139 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Assembly language of an assembly robot?) < 1387783693 753260 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387783877 705731 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387784407 112656 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What programming languages might have their own other smaller programming languages/syntaxes for use with certain commands? < 1387784422 32811 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C < 1387784442 927720 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(printf) < 1387784457 805687 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387784460 897608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is one example of what I mean too. < 1387784481 76741 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ adds templating. < 1387784491 992935 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for uh some definition of "smaller" i suppose :p < 1387784499 865420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other things are embedded assembly language codes or SQL codes in some programs. < 1387784559 461309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other kind of examples are there? I find that in some of my programs it tends to also have additional syntaxes for other purposes built-in too < 1387784598 678030 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the PLAY and DRAW commands in BASIC, kind of are < 1387784620 645518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many programming languages have regular expressions < 1387784636 561491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost feel like every API is an example of this < 1387784643 741639 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's hard to draw a line. < 1387784810 708231 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Maybe, but some things may be more so or less so than others < 1387785051 571688 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT : < 1387785800 313238 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387786730 19802 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387786752 998025 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1387787136 663960 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: especially the cross-language ones < 1387787262 819383 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn34-176.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387787675 107350 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Quit: Bye. < 1387787988 917233 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one measure time and space efficiency in the lambda calculus? < 1387788015 124517 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387788048 783731 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387788095 505624 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :count reduction steps? < 1387788170 435490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have no reason to believe this sentence. < 1387788278 516696 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i do, shachaf doesn't usually lie for no reason < 1387788308 711725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1387788312 572021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes he does < 1387788330 956992 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think? < 1387788344 980460 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is that a guess? < 1387788358 816360 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it would help if this was conveyed to me in the form of a universially quantified sentence referencing some fucking island < 1387788371 322702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like islands < 1387788377 717842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you figure out the callcc business yet < 1387788414 881943 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :play some god damned billy joel < 1387788447 57758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do a haskell exercise if you just want to figure it out by brute force < 1387788460 292167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :using ccc :: ((a -> b) -> a) -> a; ccc = undefined < 1387788467 441545 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :define lem :: Either (a -> Void) a < 1387788515 662557 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lem = law-excluded-middle right < 1387788636 698421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387788663 394246 :noooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 QUIT :Quit: noooodl < 1387788687 216115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"My Name Is Skrillex (Skrillex Remix)" by Skrillex < 1387788707 656115 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to insult someone by telling them that their actions are poorly conveyed < 1387788837 127118 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's me whose actions are poorly conveyed though < 1387789357 15741 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387791541 335262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Once upon a time two boys found a cake. One of them said: “Splendid! I will eat the cake.” The other one said: “No, that is not fair! We found the cake together, and we should share and share alike; half for you and half for me.” The first boy said, “No, I should have the whole cake!” The second said, “No, we should share and share alike; half for you and half for me.” The first said, “No, I want the whole cake.” The ... < 1387791547 344175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :... second said, “No, let us share it half and half.” Along came an adult who said: “Gentlemen, you shouldn’t fight about this; you should compromise. Give him three quarters of the cake.”» < 1387791597 285774 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd said we should compromise between pi and tau, and use 1.5pi < 1387791634 119238 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or sqrt(2)pi. < 1387792334 990071 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pbzgotzvmglozali JOIN :#esoteric < 1387792796 103405 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually all for Tau < 1387792837 906203 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's too late < 1387792843 387486 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :those pi-guys already won the fight. < 1387793206 682307 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387793300 574504 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387793347 891347 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387793358 522518 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387793380 240110 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PART :#esoteric < 1387793464 181070 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@217.196.214.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387793997 459743 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1387794010 248560 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387794857 104693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1387795113 744665 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Radius is more fundamental than diameter, although diameter is easier to measure in the real world < 1387795125 822142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :freefall XD < 1387795128 930606 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematics shouldn't be decided by the real world < 1387795139 697968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it might need context) < 1387795673 587385 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Heheh, she sure knows how to get things done < 1387795691 730327 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor guy never stood a chance < 1387795695 608540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1387795852 594279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm more worried about clippy, he seems to have constructed a perverted zeroth law so might start harming humans. < 1387795871 997570 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am wondering how she's supposed to get out of an arctic compound < 1387795901 445791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tricky. but sam should show up eventually. < 1387795912 27045 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What will Sam do about the cold? < 1387795926 43614 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully not something involving flamethrowers < 1387795933 93536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something utterly ridiculous but effective, i expect < 1387795952 28278 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1387795975 663260 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who don't read freefall have no idea what we're talking about < 1387795982 923824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor guys < 1387796169 400155 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sam + Florence has proven itself to be a world-shaking combo < 1387798875 943508 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387799445 93577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387799891 210472 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387799958 525197 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :‘Director of the NSA Gen. Keith Alexander said on “60 Minutes” Sunday that […] people need to be held accountable for their actions.’ http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/17/dod-official-snowden-stole-everything-literally-everything/ < 1387800542 757553 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recently read that a Boy who esentially drove over some people has been found not very guilty due to him "being rich and his parents did not teach him that actions have consequences therefore he could not have known better" < 1387800817 691915 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387802691 962500 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387803035 100143 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387804127 429663 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The affluenza thing. < 1387804200 281773 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was also the fund manager who ran over a cyclist and avoided charges because getting convicted would "have some pretty serious job implications for someone in Mr. Erzinger’s profession". < 1387804210 975517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ran over and fled the scene, that is. < 1387804224 780108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/08/wealthy-fund-manager-avoids-felony-charges-running-cyclist/ < 1387804287 569901 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The vague logic is that he can afford to pay restitution only if he doesn't lose his job.) < 1387804942 764263 :relevant!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387805497 993396 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387805537 63534 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1387805537 263828 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1387806315 25872 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387806388 426981 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's Freefall is great :) < 1387806575 102126 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387806576 289552 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :freefall continues to be not furry at all, nosiree, i see < 1387806758 326011 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has one anthropomorphic wolf < 1387807000 945717 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good Québec morning! < 1387807010 13475 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1387807016 762006 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm... < 1387807022 374775 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387807026 709631 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYQB < 1387807027 549054 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 231330Z 07013G22KT 3SM -SNSG BR DRSN FEW008 OVC029 M09/M11 A3008 RMK SF2SC6 SLP191 < 1387807114 13294 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387807137 496690 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387807172 965210 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387807429 897879 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387807454 430094 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any one have any advice regarding translating some Haskell code that relies on StateT (WriterT []) into Python? < 1387807613 896455 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of wrote myself into a hole with that < 1387807638 619303 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387808647 951068 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387809129 368082 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could show us the code < 1387809138 721792 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you translating it into Python? < 1387809186 458595 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lpaste.net/97433 < 1387809198 136693 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, it's for a competition that has to be written in Python < 1387809213 961266 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you wrote it in Haskell? < 1387809230 68173 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in Haskell < 1387809246 418678 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had any idea how to write this in Python, I would have written it in Python < 1387809250 820531 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair < 1387809295 519693 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I can help you < 1387809613 546146 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1387810213 729047 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387811298 898171 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387814443 552437 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could maybe help you < 1387814450 615317 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I could Haskell < 1387814469 109098 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's beyond my Haskell knowledge < 1387814602 573036 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387814751 37290 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387815170 279660 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387815560 772563 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387816184 43594 :atriq!5c1e9ba8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.155.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387816438 917029 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387816718 867072 :relevant!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387817263 887394 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387817609 65138 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387820145 90978 :relevant!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387820292 50597 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387820302 287860 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ciao! < 1387820367 32599 :relevant!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol. < 1387820370 323687 :relevant!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leaving so soon? < 1387820372 586359 :relevant!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387820462 412822 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Edward___ < 1387820467 717568 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13Edward___: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.) < 1387820484 630642 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ciao being "hello" in Italian ;) < 1387820501 187548 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thanks! How to I reserve this name, so I'm not a noob every time I log on? < 1387820505 223251 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do* < 1387820508 908714 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have an Italian `relcome? < 1387820519 636709 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER < 1387820634 442395 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, I am permanent! < 1387820683 614827 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I don't think an Italian welcome would be of much worth to me, I know far too little ;) < 1387820684 342740 :atriq!5c1e9ba8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.155.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387820697 772393 :atriq!5c1e9ba8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.155.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonjourno, Edward___ < 1387820742 132370 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :E 'dopo mezzogiorno! < 1387820747 203615 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1387820767 154017 :atriq!5c1e9ba8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.155.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't speak Italian, I'm afraid) < 1387820823 90759 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's after noon! < 1387820833 144525 :atriq!5c1e9ba8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.155.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matter < 1387820847 725822 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least for my timezone... < 1387820874 854050 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So buongiorno works < 1387820878 196285 :atriq!5c1e9ba8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.155.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine neither < 1387820902 834088 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as always, someone on Earth is partaking in a delicious fternooner. < 1387820936 159198 :atriq!5c1e9ba8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.155.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: four simultaneous fternooners on a single rotation of the fternooner cube < 1387821059 295690 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: I'm debugging the code.. < 1387821065 525843 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just started working on it. < 1387821175 637232 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: You write it first then you debug it? < 1387821277 381115 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having issues with a loop < 1387821282 916364 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm trying to get that figured out < 1387821287 601410 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pastebin whatever your errors are. < 1387821290 990442 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And make it less...ugly... < 1387821297 318801 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never! I must do it myself :) < 1387821300 147138 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe. < 1387821329 277560 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A real challenge is to never use GDB until it compiles cleanly with -Wall -Werror --pedantic -std=c89 < 1387821338 582248 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then go chasing segfaults. < 1387821352 197957 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's GOB? < 1387821362 225533 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GDB. GNU DeBugger. < 1387821366 890795 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh oh oh < 1387821374 813907 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I haven.t < 1387821580 247117 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a special end of line marker? < 1387821600 932405 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My code isn't properly reading the file, throwing an error when it hits the end of a line, before going to the next. < 1387821609 353594 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there's EOF < 1387821707 341377 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EOL? < 1387821722 151176 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a character for it iirc. < 1387821738 113859 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EOF is system-specific. < 1387821741 449118 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'w what I figured. < 1387821751 980590 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man. I can't type today. Need coffee. < 1387821757 810189 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :EOLs are also system-specific < 1387821761 930126 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1387821766 198549 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't ASCII have a specific EOF character? < 1387821770 682038 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like in the control characters < 1387821773 366943 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :also yes < 1387821778 802308 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure you can just use EOF < 1387821835 489979 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I may be wrong. Just started using C < 1387821877 181203 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The standard C macro EOF, and the ASCII control character EOF don't have all that much to do with each other. < 1387821889 538974 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :How disappointing < 1387821895 795912 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is the ASCII EOF used? < 1387821896 829 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EOF is treated as -1. < 1387821918 431972 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EOT? < 1387821935 595499 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some Windows context (streams open in text mode?) treats the ASCII EOF character as an actual end-of-file. < 1387821966 775005 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fucking a. < 1387821972 660756 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can just use '/n' < 1387821984 61055 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind all. < 1387821988 358333 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use \n. < 1387821998 861577 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's the one haha < 1387822005 409220 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once again, haven't had coffee yet. < 1387822013 227380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm, I guess the actual official ASCII name for ^Z is "SUB", but it's pretty often called EOF anyway. < 1387822040 318598 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\n is EOL. < 1387822058 186223 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :traditionally, anyway. Microsoft has alternate EOL chars. < 1387822086 485680 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :last I checked. < 1387822094 184630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're reading a text stream in C, it will translate whatever line-ending mechanism the system uses to what '\n' evaluates to. < 1387822100 995375 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct. < 1387822194 246981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It doesn't need to be a particular character at all. I think at least VMS had a more record-structured standard text file format. < 1387822263 349612 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'm printing a printf statement onto a file, to print a character... < 1387822290 450129 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does fprintf(outf,"printf(\"\%c\",*ptr);\n"); < 1387822293 735668 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :work? < 1387822309 111622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1387822319 388547 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried putchar, but that didn't work. < 1387822322 962596 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But fprintf(outf,"printf(\"%%c\",*ptr);\n"); would. < 1387822327 948246 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooh < 1387822329 819668 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks! < 1387822384 319133 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can't escape the % with a \, because \ is a string-literal-level construct, while you want to affect the behaviour of printf, which doesn't see the backslashes at all.) < 1387822392 594079 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, same output as putchar. I need to do some work with data types... < 1387822402 426768 :atriq!5c1e9ba8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.155.168 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1387822452 817018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf("%c", x) should be pretty close to putchar(x), yes. < 1387822475 479181 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting obscure symbols, and not the letters I want. < 1387822477 933248 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would this be? < 1387822513 411972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, since you don't have any actual formatting going on, fputs("printf(\"%c\",*ptr);\n", outf); would've been a slightly easier way to write that printf statement. < 1387822536 404668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What do you think, why the obscure symbols? < 1387822536 654543 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the whole point is that they are all delicately different languages so no surprise prolly does several tests starting saturday. < 1387822661 754420 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387822729 102736 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hard to say much more than that without any further details.) < 1387822750 800864 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387822797 518483 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: I'm getting "r????2?????3(something weird), when it should say "Hello World" < 1387822810 725684 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this have to do with text encoding? or just something wrong with data types. < 1387822829 210369 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: you're communicating with the Elder Ones. nothing to worry about. < 1387822840 778436 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1387822856 106697 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Code, please. < 1387822871 750639 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you like it sent? < 1387822884 436124 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pastebin < 1387822902 383379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: Your nick is really awful. :-( Can you pick something not so underscorey? < 1387822908 783922 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay one sec, I'll have to log off really quickly. < 1387822918 62749 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: and yes, I'll change it in a bit ;) < 1387822918 635200 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No no! < 1387822919 753373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading a conversation between you and LinearInterpol especially is painful. < 1387822929 988013 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type /nick < 1387822936 470448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think you have to blame three other Edwards for that. < 1387822941 500482 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 QUIT :Quit: "One second..." < 1387822975 48885 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387822994 663876 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't ask for my password upon logging in... < 1387823005 816910 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1387823010 334889 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :three underscores. < 1387823027 978398 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to l2IRC < 1387823029 830521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://livegrep.com/search/linux?q=\b_________[a-z] < 1387823034 304755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :typeof(*p) *_________p1 = (typeof(*p)*__force )ACCESS_ONCE(p); < 1387823041 945024 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitmonica.com meanwhile, in r bitcoin < 1387823062 831532 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's an edward, edward_ and edward__ already; hence the three underscores.) < 1387823063 101050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus < 1387823063 381660 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's.. horrifying. < 1387823089 309896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wait what is this even < 1387823099 725318 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: IS THAT KIM POSSIBLE?! < 1387823137 336687 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: http://pastebin.com/VaJjGJGb < 1387823173 676957 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, what < 1387823178 893081 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, how do I effectively...log in... < 1387823181 652296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so dehydrated < 1387823200 872304 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: /msg NickServ identify < 1387823212 314045 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Change your nick to the one you registered with. < 1387823234 626813 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :three goddamn underscores. < 1387823238 489860 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was only two. < 1387823259 4486 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1387823302 440929 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, context for where you found the link plx < 1387823310 981541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this literally just a pyramid scheme < 1387823321 869024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no pyramids < 1387823325 391930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's just a ponzi scheme < 1387823335 751609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's a fonzie scheme < 1387823341 443004 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eyyyyyyyy < 1387823347 596341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~$97k has been invested in this... thing < 1387823348 741628 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: someone hacked a site i use to redirect to it < 1387823348 945486 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1387823360 308811 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: reliable business here < 1387823383 223709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :METHODS OF CONTRACEPTION < 1387823442 56261 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it's sexay kim possible art straight from deviantart < 1387823442 261620 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, what's the command for changing nicks? One last time, promise. < 1387823443 889084 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: p. sure that means you have to invest to get your site back < 1387823452 51815 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: /nick < 1387823455 423513 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1387823456 336558 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1387823471 56530 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edward___: You don't initialize your array in the generated C code. < 1387823481 371685 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 NICK :Edwardz < 1387823492 570228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should start with a lowercase letter. < 1387823499 482324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edwardz: So it will contain random garbage, and after doing the increments and decrements specified by the brainfuck code, it will be some other random garbage. < 1387823501 948914 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I was following the Wiki page for Brainf**k translation. I'll change that. < 1387823512 66216 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edwardz: char array[100] = {0}; will work. < 1387823514 537103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your nick, I mean. That's how nicks work. < 1387823522 862620 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn34-176.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387823536 364912 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you'd rather use malloc for this. < 1387823538 119949 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like "Edwardz" because there are others. I'm the last. < 1387823573 210464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: No, I don't think I would. Why would you? < 1387823578 121232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but "edward", "edward_", "edward__" all have a lowercase e in their nick. < 1387823592 834736 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Static allocation for an upwards of 3,000 cells? < 1387823607 83043 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 maybe. < 1387823607 449007 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lowercase is lame... < 1387823647 580883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lowercase is how it goes here. < 1387823649 418859 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a segfault < 1387823658 668200 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when changing to ptr={0}; < 1387823673 878324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edwardz: array[100] = {0} is quite a different thing than ptr={0}. < 1387823677 689685 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1387823686 34547 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :array[100] initializes the array's elements to 0. < 1387823688 785624 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckfuckfuck < 1387823694 107883 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did array[00] < 1387823694 478621 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ptr={0} is.. well shit. < 1387823699 474311 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol. < 1387823704 612684 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://datenform.de/forgot-your-password.html also < 1387823711 817220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: stop making stuff up about nicks < 1387823724 631986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :x < 1387823732 933764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/x/it's just trolling/ < 1387823737 559266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an easy typo < 1387823760 524800 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fprintf(outf,"char array[100]={0};\nchar *ptr=array;\n"); < 1387823781 327782 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it doesn't matter lowercase or uppercase, but, it is case insensitive due to the specification of IRC. < 1387823865 934664 :Chillectual!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387823885 12697 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387823888 574725 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WORKS < 1387823889 397647 :Chillectual!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387823895 699636 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks <3 < 1387823906 410409 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :christ, the power is flickering. < 1387823935 120305 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN /R/BITCOIN: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1tijj6/paul_krugman_disses_bitcoin_again/ce8dfsv < 1387823946 836806 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: thanks much! < 1387823958 954942 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to remember to set to {0} if I want it at 0... < 1387823963 789147 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edwardz: pff. fizzie helped you. < 1387823963 986247 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387823971 581210 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Thanks to you, too! < 1387823977 487214 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edwardz: bear in mind that that notation is only valid in c99. < 1387823981 319984 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks to the esolang community ;) < 1387824000 696482 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only c99? Why is that? < 1387824003 574437 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn establishment shills < 1387824010 587592 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just is. < 1387824027 259592 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edwardz: It was introduced in C99. < 1387824032 423243 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be the new equivalent < 1387824034 939416 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1387824040 570748 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C99 is new. < 1387824041 312342 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, I can investigate an InvestigationTarget. http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/451782616472490608/1B00D268228AA5AD8C9E9343F793E5A3A12204BA/ < 1387824051 664105 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I thought there was a newer < 1387824053 129193 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1387824056 778309 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's C11. < 1387824061 145514 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But we don't.. we don't talk about that. < 1387824065 118045 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... Gotcha. < 1387824068 339998 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is new in C99? < 1387824090 920405 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "new" is relative compared to C89. < 1387824098 782161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C99 rocks < 1387824100 959106 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean, what's "that notation"? < 1387824103 856945 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} < 1387824108 158585 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Initializers. < 1387824110 130152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's very untrue. < 1387824111 673836 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/DNVkKshB < 1387824129 111835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the struct initializer = { .foo = 3, .bar = 4 } is new though < 1387824133 323016 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before I clean up the code a bit and make it prettier, lighterweight, and add the ',' operator for brainfuck < 1387824140 830588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's v. convenient b/c it sets the rest to 0 < 1387824142 866943 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compound literals are a thing involving {} that are new in C99, and designated initializers too, but basic array initialization is old as bones. < 1387824151 113925 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The one C99 change i’m probably using the most is for (foo x = …; …; …) etc. < 1387824168 448463 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1387824242 519853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code is C99 due to mixed declarations and code, but there's nothing C99 about the initializers. < 1387824262 937231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not even that in the generated code. < 1387824351 812599 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387824427 943800 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You are.. correct. Array initializers are in C89, huh. Thought they were added in C99 along with struct initializers. < 1387824495 318659 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387824576 135276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Struct initializers are C89 too, just the designators are new. < 1387824596 665596 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1387824600 553931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember that sometimes 0 is really -1 !!! < 1387824615 148719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait the only example i can think of is in c++ < 1387824692 763348 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing of c++... Only a bit of time though. < 1387824781 651727 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A bit in time saves nine," they say. < 1387824849 510627 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: How would I turn this into an interpreter? Compile the code, then run the make and ./ commands? < 1387824855 536967 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387824891 379119 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edwardz: That's one way, albeit very messy. < 1387824906 270973 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would I do it, then? < 1387824919 21585 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that all you do is run the program, without needing to do anything else? < 1387824954 776701 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Replace your "run file" function's code with what you'd generate. < 1387825035 144112 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edit the makefile? < 1387825050 768797 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your .c file. < 1387825102 91256 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-214-16.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387825117 90179 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooohhh I see. < 1387825126 29277 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-41-229.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387825127 810508 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I'll do that. < 1387825140 623148 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for now, off to hike Stone Mountain, y'all enjoy yourselves! < 1387825148 708922 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-214-16.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1387825156 468631 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Peace! < 1387825176 459355 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 QUIT : < 1387825339 180573 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :god what-if's been so boring lately < 1387825371 208545 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the questions are just 'how big is this boring number', not 'how well can you illustrate this ridiculous scenario' < 1387825898 809884 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387826376 919336 :Tefaj!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387826625 478730 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387826714 696879 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Client Quit < 1387826767 292383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some C99 features are also available in GNU89 mode, although some work a bit differently, and some features are different. < 1387826784 344432 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387826784 584557 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387826785 759555 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387826933 791273 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387827040 2016 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to like zero-length arrays, which is a GNU feature, and I don't like the flexible arrays. < 1387827065 767586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, again? < 1387827191 434969 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1387827209 825206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zero-length arrays are a useful feature, mostly to use at the end of a structure definition, although you don't have to; it can occasionally be useful in the middle or something else instead. < 1387827242 5084 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also think it is more sensible and doesn't require an exception to anything in order to implement. < 1387827268 457583 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is more mathematically elegant. < 1387827287 716001 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU also supports zero-length structures, which is also just as sensible too, in my opinion. < 1387827528 367273 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Empty structures are awesome. < 1387827559 447037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Those behave differently in GNU C and GNU C++, don't they? < 1387827576 552081 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do. < 1387827625 90288 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, I think that is correct. The way they work in C++ is no good in my opinion but if you program in C++ then that is what you use. < 1387827687 309583 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Since structures are effectively classes with their members set to public by default, empty structures act as empty classes, which is defined by the standard last I checked. < 1387827746 997817 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C99 (iirc) was standard that fully defined empty structures for C. < 1387827769 312601 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that they aren't truthfully allowed. < 1387827856 788709 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-16.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Unicode_Font_Initiative wait, so they have this, but multiocular o is official? < 1387827866 567543 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been.. a while since I've looked at C99 or C89's standard. < 1387827879 899256 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387827904 50234 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387828266 174031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written what I would consider improvement to C standards; these improvements do not require any runtime support (except for some new numeric types, which *might* need it but can be emulated if needed), but much more things are done with macros now. < 1387828361 257529 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including one thing that is kind of like C++ templates, but actually very differently. < 1387828510 653372 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing I would use over C is Forth. < 1387828560 219047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use different programming languages for different purposes. Yes, Forth is good too. < 1387828841 240465 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ay < 1387828852 738737 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/mroman_/cobohl < 1387828861 302057 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- that's what I'm gonna use in the future ;) < 1387828902 964132 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, nice. < 1387828978 864966 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Might it be better if you also need quotation marks around the AUTHOR and NAME strings? < 1387829655 969234 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387829924 1879 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387829978 30848 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387830027 702730 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Nah < 1387830032 881311 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just parse till end of line :) < 1387830044 593947 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm probably gonna switch to writing a haskell interpreter for it < 1387830047 782986 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably faster < 1387830057 135615 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I get garbage collection for free < 1387830091 124120 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ENTRYPOINT probably belongs into MODULE DIVISION < 1387830206 68458 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ever have kids < 1387830217 397927 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second name will have a new line in it < 1387830220 274749 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like uhm < 1387830239 612223 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Athene Hele\na < 1387830256 561769 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hm < 1387830261 497522 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Athene 'Hele\na < 1387830337 841479 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387830515 617757 :Tefaj!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PART :#esoteric < 1387830907 922853 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387831116 856940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387831232 641107 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: quinthellopia. still vacationing under the sun? < 1387832488 150093 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387832512 94847 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387832679 233952 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: i think the fashionable thing is like http://xkcd.com/327/ hth < 1387832687 503289 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387832761 994386 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387833748 917578 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. is it me, or is CAO currently down? < 1387833768 65530 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's me. can't type a simple 5-letter work. < 1387833770 337737 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/k/d/ < 1387833780 53941 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1387833782 305802 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_or_ 4-letter. < 1387833835 843865 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what is CAO? < 1387833842 492866 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl.akrasiac.org. < 1387833878 194080 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1387833974 321728 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. I'm an addict, and I accept that fact. < 1387834037 986637 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i implied nothing. < 1387834149 988037 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387834215 793152 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I SELF PROCLAIM MY ADDICTION! < 1387834219 933226 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, I am sane.) < 1387834236 908276 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mad < 1387834238 825723 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." < 1387834264 990823 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if that's in the original INTERCAL manual < 1387834275 325033 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, the C-INTERCAL Revised manual < 1387834284 177072 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the revisions was adding Alice in Wonderland quotes at the start of every chapter < 1387834288 106580 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that one seems to fit < 1387834313 530290 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's in the introduction < 1387834322 276157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1387834839 62755 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387834874 28002 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387835086 931042 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387835105 484008 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :jacob3 < 1387835109 118799 :jacob3!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v < 1387835401 792856 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1387835444 913653 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387837047 433437 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'LET a = 0 + b' | ploki -MO=Deparse < 1387837048 960070 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :LET a 1 + b \ END < 1387837111 311402 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: looks logical < 1387837139 486312 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'LETa+=c+@NOTc\na_"\nLETc b+@NOTb\nLETb a\nIF' | ploki < 1387837141 44938 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 \ 2 \ 3 \ 5 \ 8 \ 13 \ 21 \ 34 \ 55 \ 89 \ 144 \ 233 \ 377 \ 610 \ 987 \ 1597 \ 2584 \ 4181 \ 6765 \ 10946 \ 17711 \ 28657 \ 46368 \ 75025 \ 121393 \ 196418 \ 317811 \ 514229 \ 832040 \ 1346269 \ 2178309 \ 3524578 \ 5702887 \ 9227465 \ 14930352 \ 24157817 \ 39088169 \ 63245986 \ 102334155 \ 165580141 \ 267914296 \ 433494437 \ 701408733 \ 11349031 < 1387837230 627069 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'LETa+=c+@NOTc\na_"\nLETc b+@NOTb\nLETb a\nIF' | ploki -MO=Deparse < 1387837232 54447 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR x0 LET a += b + @NOT(b) \ WUNT (a _ "\n") \ LET b c + @NOT(c) \ LET c a \ NEXT x0 < 1387837706 406224 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1387837765 349388 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://heh.fi/tmp/LATIN_SMALL_LIGATURE_IJ.png < 1387838216 152518 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387838539 920385 :waltom!~gamasi@202.70.34.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387838550 992213 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1387842774 399414 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387843083 334926 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387843802 975990 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387843844 773773 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1387843844 961855 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1387843869 993138 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 QUIT :Quit: Gnity < 1387844169 969156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387845051 833709 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387845707 997447 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387846282 828506 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387847388 149388 :augur!~augur@65.199.61.222 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387848562 461433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://slbkbs.org/ramsale.jpg < 1387848714 307006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: help < 1387848737 979443 :augur!~augur@65.199.61.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387849042 941188 :JM673!~JM@186.14.127.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387849069 100503 :JM673!~JM@186.14.127.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1387849083 403658 :JM673!~JM@186.14.127.133 QUIT :Client Quit < 1387849161 195028 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1387849244 11768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: haha < 1387849345 259125 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-16.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a different number each time.. < 1387849389 119537 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it's the same person? < 1387849412 949976 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-16.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they have similar IPs too < 1387849414 932074 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-16.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and uh, behavior < 1387849429 998837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be the JM Society < 1387849442 940450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has a computer lab that people use for going into IRC channels and saying hi < 1387849448 12634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with members known only by their numbers < 1387849453 711957 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-16.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good poitn < 1387849479 825520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't actually being serious < 1387849484 552482 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a possibility, at least < 1387849538 40063 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387850086 644081 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387851110 382796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you know when people make burrito jokes and then it turns out they were only saying them ironically so it's not actually annoying < 1387851129 162226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387851174 160825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a relief to find that out < 1387851229 818407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know right < 1387851635 152389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1387851700 786080 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-16.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387851790 857135 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1387851831 778568 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-140.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387853318 899581 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387853591 177945 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ZZZzzz… < 1387854575 47817 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1387855417 11734 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387855421 980243 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387855440 200537 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387856275 832396 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387857413 648444 :augur!~augur@65.199.61.222 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387857829 916540 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387858611 405014 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.187.101 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1387860694 670297 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387860704 804594 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1387860811 924521 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387860906 666027 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1387862526 166289 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 241 seconds < 1387863326 651928 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387865221 139046 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-140.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey, turing got pardoned. < 1387865281 562006 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :living anachronism issues 60 year late non-apology < 1387865299 736950 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1387865440 185590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :an apology later followed by a pardon < 1387865494 705986 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i only saw the text of the pardon, which isn't much of an apology < 1387865536 831745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the apology was a few years ago < 1387865609 5612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was also http://www.theguardian.com/uk/the-northerner/2012/feb/07/alan-turing-pardon-lord-mcnally-lord-sharkey-computers < 1387865738 507428 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1387865871 758153 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387865888 698356 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-140.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'hullaballoo in the UK' seems like a bit of a downgrade < 1387866213 459478 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1387866286 836101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played Yomi cards today; I won despite having only one hit point left (my opponent had ten). < 1387866362 858999 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not played Yomi < 1387866367 630960 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have, however, played Mao with Yomi decks < 1387866397 572070 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-140.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives coppro a penalty card
< 1387866535 911946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: You have? Any card game using the standard 52 card deck + jokers can be played with Yomi decks, so that is OK too < 1387866590 817899 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought he would surely play an attack, and of speed 1.0; I thought I should definitely play a dodge, but I didn't have any dodge, so I thought I should play a 0.6 speed attack, but that is a dragon card and I don't have a dragon form, so I played what I considered best card that I would have, which is 1.2 which might be too slow but might not be, and it ended up being fast enough to beat their 2.2 speed card. < 1387866610 564028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I should definitely play a doge, but I didn't have any doge < 1387866610 752095 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My card caused exactly ten damage, as it turned out. (And if the speed was equal, it would be ended in a tie.) < 1387866643 461866 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you aware of the dogscape? < 1387866711 867300 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how common tie games are in Yomi. < 1387866749 70761 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think normally it may be played whoever caused more damage, whoever hit first, or "sudden death" is played, but I prefer, the tie stands if both players have 0 or less current HP at the end of the turn. < 1387866752 905183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invent the game called "Doge - The Card Game" and "Professional Doge of the World" (these names are just generated by randomly) < 1387866792 747030 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You can try to make up such card games if you like to. < 1387866810 228148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure they're card games? < 1387867230 558097 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No. < 1387867595 822101 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1387867759 521944 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Quit: Bye. < 1387867925 589703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The standard rules also say that in case both players run out of cards in their draw pile and in their hand, whoever has more hit points remaining wins. Such a thing is extremely unlikely. But in such a case, I prefer that the game just continues normally (which usually results in a draw, but if one side is Argagarg then they win; if both sides are, whoever has more hit points wins, unless they differ by no more than one, in which case it is a tie) < 1387868021 86146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: привет товарищ < 1387868027 951397 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387868034 571605 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, I'm exhausted < 1387868040 992175 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is speaking crypto < 1387868071 792196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: it's unbreakable so you might as well give up < 1387868078 347620 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :/ < 1387868094 279157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just imagine it was on pastebin.com and presented by a rude person who kept changing nicks < 1387868097 980515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that good < 1387868099 446170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :криптография < 1387868107 703194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: military grade encryption < 1387868130 44828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that what you learn in military grade school < 1387868141 882602 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally < 1387868142 738627 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-140.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember that translator guy who referred to russian as a code in strange symbols. such arrogance, wow < 1387868150 763077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: did i mention i bought the hott book < 1387868156 716181 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice < 1387868160 965174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it arrived today < 1387868162 754068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDZhB 24 664 NAYeMNICA 34 21 29 93 priyom < 1387868162 942651 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably a newer edition than mine :( < 1387868170 979437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i waited until they stopped changing it before ordering it < 1387868176 247383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's the sep 20 edition < 1387868182 891166 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-140.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gesundmc < 1387868187 64702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i got it in 99% paperback < 1387868190 988151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hike < 1387868201 218193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :99% paper 1% undetectible poison?? < 1387868215 24034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, as opposed to 1% hardcover like copumpkin can afford < 1387868219 33523 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387868224 898224 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it's print-on-demand but it looks and feels just like a real book < 1387868228 39971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah i see < 1387868230 177179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't smell like a new book :'( < 1387868232 470003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :print-on-polite-request < 1387868241 410402 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was confused by the 99% thing too < 1387868242 255902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :print-on-hug < 1387868288 810512 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, I feel really slow right now < 1387868292 310045 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably should've slept on the plane < 1387868299 745320 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there were too many obnoxious sleep-detractors < 1387868301 544160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :plane whence whither < 1387868337 607138 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :new york to rome, through moscow < 1387868355 562871 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I left the ticket-buying to the last minute < 1387868360 65061 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and needed to buy two of them < 1387868366 813912 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and aeroflot ended up being cheapest < 1387868378 921788 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sadly still fucking expensive) < 1387868397 813038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once flew sjc->sea via slc < 1387868420 602866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also sjc->jfk through lax < 1387868429 68751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but moscow is better < 1387868559 427256 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :honolulu to moscow via hong kong < 1387868566 955441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: should i read the hott book or the Illuminatus! trilogy first < 1387869456 813858 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1387869547 199339 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1387870036 314302 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1387870121 280529 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1387870158 713860 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1387870224 621823 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1387870562 24518 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387870612 540485 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 NICK :Edwardz < 1387871018 464395 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 QUIT : < 1387871090 928499 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387872084 299555 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :old < 1387872084 769242 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kogan.com/au/blog/new-internet-explorer-7-tax/ < 1387872173 289666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus that site has like 5 overlay ads < 1387872210 854743 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-140.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the article is about an overlay ad. < 1387872221 366293 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-140.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincidence?? < 1387872245 363855 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1387872246 178506 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-140.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :petition for a news site that only reports on itself < 1387872263 133178 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't get the IE7 overlay to appear in Chrome spoofing IE7 < 1387872266 646055 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still getting the tax < 1387872322 203949 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No tax for IE6 < 1387872339 886457 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-140.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie6 is a stable, modern browser < 1387874461 705953 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a lot of people make up a lot more levels for Attribute Zone game, then I can make an analysis to figure out how to make a good Huffman encoding and RLE to compress the levels. < 1387874526 574707 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1387874922 12503 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387876668 208148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDGI. I've disabled the "fast restart" according to all instructions, and do a "shutdown", but this thing's still all "Windows is hibernated, refused to mount. The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume read-only with the 'ro' mount option." < 1387877915 996022 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/81DO3BJd <- any syntax suggestions? < 1387877946 151981 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR pushes an element of a list to the stack, executes the contained block and then repeats with the next element < 1387877973 58169 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :EACH is the same, but it works directly on the list (i.e it collects the top of the stack) < 1387878031 915106 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387878039 292988 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe merge PARAMs on one line ... < 1387878318 288222 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is OK like that < 1387878884 861659 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How does one pay $² 3000? < 1387878929 878734 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Square-Dollars? < 1387878958 690061 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the surface area of a dollar? < 1387879043 907127 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.01032256 cm^2 < 1387879054 922539 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3000 / 0.01302256 < 1387879056 270545 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 230369.45116781953 < 1387879584 105749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did that 0.01032256 cm^2 figure come from? < 1387879625 177689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It sounds incredibly unlikely for a dollar bill; and very font-and-size-specific for a dollar symbol.) < 1387879631 188928 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to the intarweb that's the surface area of a dollar bill < 1387879638 762417 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm pretty sure it's not. < 1387879657 784479 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because 0.01 cm^2 is approximately a one-millimetre-per-side square. < 1387879676 664268 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387879698 577904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to be in square metres. < 1387879699 579129 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1387879703 365101 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1387879713 449258 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used google to convert inches into meters < 1387879729 19231 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 square inches to square meters < 1387879734 980067 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what could go wrong? < 1387879742 460737 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 inches would be 0.4m < 1387879769 4000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that it's almost 2014, you could've just asked W|A, you know. < 1387879794 874147 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"surface area of dollar" -> "Input interpretation: [ US 1 dollar banknote | area ]" + results in square millimeters, centimeters, meters, feet and inches. < 1387879832 373065 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that it's almost 2014 some countries could've switched to using the metric system . < 1387879960 25693 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1387879964 164392 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.01034m^2 < 1387879982 527549 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I wasn't off by much? < 1387880007 992151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just four orders of magnitude. < 1387880077 885579 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387880313 784622 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hu? < 1387880315 76562 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1387880325 763180 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387880329 629571 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I type cm^2 < 1387880340 808030 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:57 < mroman> 0.01032256 cm^2 < 1387880354 497651 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- I meant meters < 1387880361 189137 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*typed < 1387881180 870546 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387881195 750667 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387881659 954022 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT : < 1387881673 999258 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387881916 719230 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387882890 43649 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387883812 909247 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387884020 356930 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Merry Christmas! < 1387884109 589896 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ho ho hooo < 1387884508 376545 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387884801 296232 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :merry almost-but-not-quite-officially christmas < 1387884831 327660 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime b_jonas < 1387884832 716303 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for b_jonas is Tue Dec 24 12:33:51 2013 < 1387884857 31323 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like officially 5PM here < 1387884870 977968 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that christmas starts < 1387885501 252912 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is fewer than i expected https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_Countries_that_do_not_recognize_Christmas_as_Public_Holiday.png < 1387885541 729915 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387885546 335117 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1387885546 523696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387885590 500335 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your cloak fools no one, mr. cust765. < 1387885610 575866 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat http://www.wired.co.uk/magazine/archive/2013/12/wired-world-2014/android-becomes-the-new-linux < 1387885651 736175 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, Android is the new Windows < 1387885717 335804 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they should pull a stallman and insist they call it Android/Linux < 1387885754 176754 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good hardware support for its platform, supported by the widest range of developers, somewhat buggy but unusably so, and normally comes preinstalled by default, except by Apple < 1387885824 77443 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you're missing a "not" in there < 1387885859 313085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, yes < 1387885864 682976 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before "unusably" < 1387885902 955178 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1387885923 299045 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no they're unclogging us < 1387885928 999647 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Linux is the new linux < 1387885952 875408 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :By which I mean, nothing's particularly changed. < 1387885965 658489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're looking for the Linux of mobile phones, I'd go for Meego or something like that < 1387885970 986498 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose linux gaming is slightly more feasible < 1387885975 501168 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Than it was 5 years ago < 1387885991 52557 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is that squeeking sound the neighbors keep making < 1387885995 19707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than just "slightly", since Valve decided that they were going to support it < 1387886013 283138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :having a major developer target an OS improves its chances significantly < 1387886049 513295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, there was always some basis of support for it from game developers < 1387886057 228965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bioware, for instance, released some of their games for Linux < 1387886067 39486 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the Linux versions were always kind-of obscure < 1387886113 990085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Bioware's official method of buying the Linux port of Neverwinter Nights was "buy a CD of the windows version, send us the CD key, then you can download it from our website; if you can read the disk then that speeds things up because you won't have to download as much info, but it doesn't matter if you can't" < 1387886119 557488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, or disc? < 1387886122 63991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1387886129 22792 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what spelling does the "D" of "CD" use? < 1387886199 876000 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disckq < 1387886256 615751 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+ue < 1387886306 906393 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shiny spinny < 1387886321 18167 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data pizza < 1387886331 940135 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wheel of video game < 1387886340 803241 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discques < 1387886341 816606 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optical plate < 1387886364 759546 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rotating bit cylinder < 1387888130 889121 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen the c variant more often. < 1387888216 66950 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IEC 60908 is titled "Audio recording - Compact disc digital audio system". < 1387888234 183133 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387888246 854946 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And I remember doing the NWN Linux thing, probably by downloading the whole gigabyte-or-two client.) < 1387888434 682947 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387888745 685082 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387888786 525761 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1387888786 714024 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1387889192 4068 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387889239 433575 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387890227 987020 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387890599 762923 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just did that US dialect quize < 1387890617 430482 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It narrowed me down to Boston, LA, or Honolulu < 1387890639 768716 :Slereah__!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387890697 439437 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387891365 537029 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Given that it's almost 2014, you could've just asked W|A, you know. <-- or he could have given google the right units to convert between. < 1387891425 34128 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm i'm not using my brain. nothing new there. < 1387891435 998981 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387891494 121755 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION somehow wishes webchat would use a different character for joins and quits, like irssi does.
< 1387891668 419181 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if his touchpad is broken again since it won't scroll; then notices he's at end of page.
< 1387891779 828920 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387892816 812927 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387892822 750355 :Slereah__!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-43-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387892995 196212 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1387893281 820095 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387893335 357939 :augur_!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387893403 733552 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387893502 801783 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387893656 644779 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387893786 882476 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1387893962 461423 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387893962 816141 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387893963 57641 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387893963 901845 :iamcal!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cmwfqsmhyzgpwtbz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387893964 601822 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387893964 790037 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387893965 168972 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387893965 358057 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387893996 114622 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387894022 736941 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387894110 642508 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t from < 1387894111 489760 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Functor f, Profunctor p) => AnIso s t a b -> p t (f s) -> p b (f a) < 1387894181 745149 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387894254 137310 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387894254 325516 :iamcal!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cmwfqsmhyzgpwtbz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387894325 694254 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1387894737 728194 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387894783 7755 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1387895443 105733 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387895446 717254 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Changing host < 1387895446 907595 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387895817 105862 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387895870 104608 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387896094 72368 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387896108 747332 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387896120 126227 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387896147 810662 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1387896147 998823 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1387896473 831603 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-15-53.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387896544 286624 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387896556 993591 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1387897474 666555 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387897959 861008 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de NICK :int-e < 1387898274 207649 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org NICK :polytone < 1387898373 773020 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387898397 832614 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387898695 403248 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387898806 740974 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1387899703 386748 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387900087 211968 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387900526 800562 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-15-53.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387900566 379522 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-15-53.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387900995 333568 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-15-53.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387901400 823196 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-15-53.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387902196 555284 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387902210 291105 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387902256 955030 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387902644 939140 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387902672 570204 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387903557 716116 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387903790 979911 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387905441 942894 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387907025 47528 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387908747 372192 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1387908930 745765 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1387908937 386994 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it bad that the Doctor Who christmas special has become my favourite thing about Christmas? < 1387908943 715399 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1387908964 529509 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387908978 675001 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1387909025 369191 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-15-53.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is < 1387909030 432344 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-15-53.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be Die Hard < 1387909069 590557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from my point of view, the TV around Christmas tends to be even worse than normal < 1387909265 157417 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The next one is almost out < 1387909525 563919 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1387910009 923456 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387910030 754568 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-15-53.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387910116 616057 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: halp < 1387910121 130212 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ais523 < 1387910128 890360 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or really anyone < 1387910136 431978 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the mathmobile! < 1387910156 758395 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not math. i just tried to edit Brainfuck_constants from my phone < 1387910164 428188 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it looked right in the editor < 1387910177 836320 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but totally broke the formatting in the display version < 1387910200 218387 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you fix it? and figure out wtf my phone is doing? < 1387910277 849020 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1387910295 341699 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord < 1387910299 583273 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 32 < 1387910335 606618 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord < 1387910337 104790 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 32 < 1387910343 587615 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1387910381 549319 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord < 1387910383 56192 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 32 < 1387910498 714579 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The creator of SMBC is livedrawing requests http://www.twitch.tv/zachweinersmith < 1387910576 953111 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord < 1387910577 144634 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 32 < 1387910592 10502 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1387910610 977849 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are characters there that cut and paste as spaces, but which are interpreted wrong. < 1387910679 20455 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-15-53.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387910694 707848 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord < 1387910705 897242 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord   < 1387910706 100603 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :194 160 32 < 1387910713 310963 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you've also not put space at the beginning of some lines at all. < 1387910732 46116 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ^those are the characters < 1387910746 419116 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord < 1387910748 9474 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 32 < 1387910856 948524 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hon-breaking space < 1387910884 539065 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i copied it via vim and back, and that fixed the problem. i also added spaces you'd missed. < 1387910892 864604 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an A circumflex???? < 1387910940 502230 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A circumflex sounds like interpreting UTF-8 as latin-1. < 1387910957 803399 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot does that, btw. < 1387910958 355400 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: caught a java.lang.classnotfoundexception! fnord, glassbot is still alive."(_o)o.? have never used haskell, of course < 1387910993 816950 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord Ø < 1387910994 15448 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :195 152 < 1387911013 228118 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "\195" < 1387911014 289461 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ã < 1387911022 562300 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "\194" < 1387911023 589076 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Â < 1387911057 52053 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's the difference between fungot's ^ord and HackEgo's `ord, the latter uses proper utf-8. < 1387911057 286254 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you are i guess. just check what directions recursive calls can move them < 1387911076 943168 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fungot's is useful for seeing the actual bytes. < 1387911077 314908 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: then again, " run delegate" can also be flipped ( the starred stuff) and still i think 5 minutes is more than a listing of existing scheme implementations? any non-toy r5rs one < 1387911126 964599 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: while you're there, you can probably move the 45306 subsection up to the "greater than 256" section < 1387911148 836348 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was considering it yesterday... < 1387911156 846767 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would, but i'd break it again probably < 1387911346 10349 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-15-53.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387911432 835901 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-15-53.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387911568 964439 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Why can't you UTF-8, anyway? Is it TOO MUCH TO ASK? < 1387911569 207309 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you compile it? :p. ugh i need to figure out < 1387911582 109430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, as long as you're trying. < 1387911601 530142 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: he's saying you have to compile support for utf-8 in! < 1387911607 157996 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :get on that! < 1387911722 763767 :Slereah_!Slereah_@ALille-656-1-15-53.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387911880 158603 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Merry christmas, fungot! < 1387911880 443534 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: mikä on extortion business or the like < 1387911893 396229 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a very merry christmas for mikä then < 1387912119 406820 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387912268 688756 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How do I compile in UTF-8 support? < 1387912269 276731 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it also depends on defmacro, i was about to do that in my scheme window manager originally based on next. so far i've received several out of office!" < 1387912280 459390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: It sounds kinda difficult. Why don't you do it? < 1387912280 828701 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i don't suppose it lets you pass a list < 1387912296 511909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Oh, well, in that case. I'll put it on the list. < 1387912296 871161 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'll probably ask on the plt mailing list is any value that is a *very* irritating thing... all this reading about xaml makes me sick < 1387912317 49160 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor bot, forced to read about XAML all day long. < 1387912344 879449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, how could fungot even have the chance, while receiving several out of office? < 1387912345 71975 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: an even shorter forth quine: http://rafb.net/ fnord iffi so far < 1387912453 445570 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot almost tricked me into visiting that uri < 1387912453 685009 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i'll try that right now < 1387912532 62107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you have first-class support for irritating values < 1387912532 262442 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: looking at your fnord thing on your desk < 1387912543 247317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hey don't look at that < 1387912543 745067 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: jao: you are probably right. i meant because the authors aren't here. you only need to take an example sxml tree and an example of taking a canonical esolang ( bf). that effectively prevents any kind of url < 1387913151 474420 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387914573 461724 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387915055 419238 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387915114 791341 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387915493 766975 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387915603 960691 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387915645 712138 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.57.25 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387915889 708870 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I tried to filter out "foo:" attribution lines. < 1387915899 654699 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Purely based on the fact that it doesn't usually say those. < 1387915908 237704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But perhaps that was a case of "foo: bar: content here". < 1387915929 228818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I was wondering if it was a double reverse-attribution < 1387915936 501449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Please post a picture of your fnord thing on your desk. < 1387915942 148044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not an attribution, that would be " message here" < 1387915981 921380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of some other word. < 1387916011 46489 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Addressing, perhaps. < 1387916063 937133 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387916404 715438 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`metar KBGR < 1387916405 954615 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: metar: not found < 1387916417 460488 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KBGR < 1387916425 660295 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how metar do. < 1387916451 930645 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 1: have metasepia here. < 1387916466 397620 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1387916469 159995 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-140.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 2: hakkarrkrrrankbanpiedanangggcckladnkra < 1387916479 107258 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good 2nd step. < 1387916484 253500 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1387916844 87682 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387917255 469247 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1387917750 672554 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387917900 294422 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387918005 268633 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1387918070 694404 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387918096 457114 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.57.25 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387919212 862575 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387919230 972766 :CADD_!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387919436 419148 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1387919449 230081 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep getting a ping timeout? < 1387919461 327822 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, 240 seconds was the last one < 1387919478 161968 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what is the problem? < 1387919579 660420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1387920092 750324 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried changing my IDLETIMER setting from 225 to 200 in case that helps < 1387920229 148277 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: There are probably some problems on freenode right now < 1387920234 557049 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a disconnect today too < 1387920314 502660 :CADD_!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1387920320 163982 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't had a disconnect from freenode per se in a long time, afair < 1387920359 517379 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(presently i'm on webchat because the linux server i usually connect _via_ disconnected, but that's different.) < 1387920397 596028 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course i usually use a fixed freenode server though (a swedish one iirc) < 1387920462 714707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1387921550 811418 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-140.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387921628 848355 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387921660 366820 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if boily will be in here someday soon < 1387921764 643973 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387922069 388820 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :goods yules duddes < 1387922090 5424 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy fucking christmas everybody < 1387922154 958262 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mass of christ < 1387922237 464916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy christing fuckmas < 1387922256 81443 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not xmas yet though??? < 1387922258 478443 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for most of this channel < 1387922264 790701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :<#haskell> when trying to make something as simple as Conway's game of life, I shouldn't have to choose between readable and fast < 1387922268 989566 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is in oceania or whatever right < 1387922270 807276 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolfram alpha disappoints http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=mass+of+christ < 1387922362 239773 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :finland celebrates the day before christmas more than the actual christmas day < 1387922365 883757 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least i do < 1387922406 62511 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to choose a random moment close to the average of the two < 1387922470 46222 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do those countries you linked celebrate something near His Mass though? < 1387922493 394092 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess if some work through it then no < 1387922523 888119 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the ones colored lighter supposedly had some celebrations, just not official iirc? < 1387922578 621063 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also taiwan and pakistan accidentally have other celebrations on the same day. < 1387922628 96588 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a priori i'm inclined to think it's not completely accidental < 1387922657 12547 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you even read the description. < 1387922663 578925 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because aren't things like hanukkah and all sorts of other stuff also nearby, people celebrate the same day and eventually come up with different reasons < 1387922674 152511 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the a priori is because i have no idea what you are talking about < 1387922693 649400 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like hanukkah is about presents and trees. it's just that consumerism is all consuming < 1387922746 980833 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: taiwan celebrates its constitution day, pakistan the birthday of their (non-religious) founder < 1387922754 609259 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1387922766 377610 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :those _might_ be coincidental < 1387922777 579473 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but who knows < 1387922855 405198 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hanukkah is, if i understood correctly, about the end of some invasion or something < 1387922865 987175 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :merry christmas. < 1387922873 720637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't hanukkah a pretty obscure third-tier holiday before american jews started emphasizing it to participate in the ~~holiday season~~~ < 1387922892 458505 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1387922911 320079 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would fit my "all holidays are actually christmass" theory nicely < 1387922926 982923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all holidays are actually roman solstice holiday < 1387922934 330908 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1387922964 57932 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy saturnalia everyone, here is your lube and torch < 1387923057 267704 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy holideers. < 1387923089 891443 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387923277 807784 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1387923583 390113 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387923803 610006 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(>>= repeat) == cycle? < 1387923818 124399 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just run it sgeo < 1387925576 918066 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no < 1387925633 601912 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (repeat () >>) "test" < 1387925634 606875 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "testtesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttes... < 1387925688 257914 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (join . repeat) "test" < 1387925689 252529 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "testtesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttesttes... < 1387925708 145834 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm convinced < 1387925725 783287 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of what < 1387925732 880280 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1387925748 383507 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (>>= repeat) < 1387925749 119746 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[b] -> [b] < 1387925762 503382 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (>>= repeat) "test" -- just to make it clear < 1387925763 478423 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt... < 1387925788 356685 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an ininite number of t's followed by an infinite number of e's, etc, right? < 1387925794 778531 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL < 1387925824 228879 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly haskell lists do not go beyond omega index. < 1387925878 764838 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is a datatype for transfinite ordinals somewhere on hackage < 1387925910 868934 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure you could make a working monad instance for ordinal-indexed lists, though. < 1387925953 464219 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm talking "''conceptually»» < 1387925955 305569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :("but what about cisfinite ordinals") < 1387925985 68571 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you'd have to do infinite computation to work out which ordinal a part of the result ends up in < 1387925990 272313 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :die cis scum *shoots 7 in the face* < 1387926006 298719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 7 8 9 < 1387926010 106069 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I think he had it coming < 1387926056 715779 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn straight < 1387926089 490162 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387926091 511960 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what interpretation of quantum mechanics did schrödinger go for, since he wasn't a copenhagen kinda guy < 1387926173 865657 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm reminds me of that relevant shtetl-optimized thread i should check for new comments < 1387926203 319105 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1622) < 1387926290 453678 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'But on the other hand, Einstein and Schrödinger were clearer in realizing that you couldn’t restrict QM to “microscopic phenomena” only using nothing but mountains of verbiage about complementarity—that once you adopted QM consistently, there would be no inherent limit to the size or spatial range of superpositions.' < 1387926424 249224 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387926438 716488 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're saying he was basically deepack chopra < 1387926472 79162 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it doesn't answer the question properly though) < 1387926556 868173 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bohr and Heisenberg both had the properties of [...] (4) generally, being a lot more ponderous and obscure than not only their successors, but even contemporaries like Schrödinger and Dirac." < 1387926558 905514 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he wrote a book called "The Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics". maybe it's relevant?? < 1387926585 883516 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he wasn't the worst, back then < 1387926609 155320 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst of what < 1387926625 14184 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the most deepak chopraish < 1387926685 735229 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION maybe should note he doesn't know much about this beyond what's in that blog thread
< 1387926741 970282 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i gues What Is Life was kind of wack. < 1387926752 219447 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol physicists. < 1387926767 148623 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387927622 727809 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387927637 537773 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Changing host < 1387927637 726291 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1387928503 924724 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1387929110 517527 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1387929245 982449 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387929880 907978 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387929912 908049 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1387929963 26762 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1387929997 9168 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387930496 348381 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310] < 1387930551 978870 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387930817 791682 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387932000 951374 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387932155 90220 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1387932367 225685 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387932526 911497 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1387933004 960622 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387933126 717915 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387933401 742417 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lqst qssignement: write q compiler and then an interpreter for some pseudo-asm language used to build "warriors", for a bf-joust like competition < 1387933410 42661 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this school is FUN < 1387933570 43385 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pseudo-ass language < 1387933610 815345 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lqst? last? < 1387933677 211101 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: as you can see it took me no more than four words to switch back to azerty, even though I'm typing in the dark` < 1387933702 988507 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(entering password to boot the computer took a few tries though) < 1387933712 335031 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, sorry. I got hooked up on the first word and didn't notice the consistency :) < 1387933721 311890 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot prove it wasn't five words < 1387933761 630671 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also I'm blissfully unaware of azerty. I have enough trouble with using both qwertz and qwerty) < 1387933770 125012 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 QUIT :Quit: Also, good night < 1387933815 751755 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :azerty is like french for qwerty and oh guess what the punctuation is all wrong < 1387933854 451542 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, just wanted to say hi to you guys < 1387933867 878990 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi to you guys. < 1387933910 472841 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now I`m going back to sleep - I havent had a single free day since it all started sooooo Im gonna enjoy tomorrow a lot < 1387934333 939312 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1387934443 243364 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I talk about Cablevision or competitors, I think I'm expected to state that I work for Cablevision, but all opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employer < 1387934449 950945 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least on social media websites < 1387934454 431548 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know if IRC is covered < 1387934482 145420 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not disagreeing with the policy, just not sure how it would apply to chat) < 1387934507 780000 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cablevision doesn't sound like the name of a company that has opinions < 1387934817 858606 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds can be deceiving < 1387934838 200564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc is a social media website < 1387934867 447157 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC is a social medium, which in most cases can be accessed via some websites < 1387934895 577413 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I don't need the disclaimer if I see no web client users? < 1387934943 947106 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'makes sense' < 1387934965 156235 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1387935265 908940 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387935658 374077 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Breaking News: No shots fired" < 1387936005 523765 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ actual headline < 1387936034 904484 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or.. whatever they're called on TV news < 1387936050 558285 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably made more sense to people who were watching than people who saw a glimpse < 1387936261 176717 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing has been pardoned. < 1387936265 292147 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As of yesterday. < 1387936275 685586 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :such bullshit < 1387936289 614853 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1387936291 14659 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pardon campaign was nothing but tactless pandering to begin with < 1387936316 128080 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed. < 1387936324 573040 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he shouldn't have been convicted in the first place. < 1387936353 355487 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik the important part -- the absolution of all gays convicted under those laws -- was quietly implemented years ago < 1387936361 930923 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct. < 1387936372 533110 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet it's an important ritual at least in my eyes. < 1387936386 99646 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't excuse anything, but it's a gift. < 1387936400 490353 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not! the apology already did that < 1387936436 205715 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pardon is a deeply unsavoury gesture which implies that turing was just an exception because he was gay but useful < 1387936457 497383 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1387936460 786467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pardoning someone for violating an unjust law is somewhat perverse < 1387936464 666455 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aye, if you see it like that, I'm inclined to agree. < 1387936475 779781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it implies special circumstances mean that Turing's being gay was excusable < 1387936486 199353 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1387936504 862842 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should disagree so we can have a proper fight over this < 1387936516 507339 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think many people agree. < 1387936537 373870 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just see it as a sort of useful recognition, I suppose. It's a nice gift to see Turing in the news again. < 1387936592 14156 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i admit i'm kind of glad every time i see turing in the news at all since he owned < 1387936634 215688 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he did. < 1387936638 275019 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that movie with cumbutler out yet < 1387936670 816442 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :look if you want to deride cumberbatch just call him poshfuck < 1387936681 437803 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1387936696 768654 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :'ultimate poshfuck' if there are other poshfucks forcing disambiguation < 1387936704 848891 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't dislike him or anything even he just has an absurd name < 1387936725 696533 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he's such a poshfuck! < 1387936726 100947 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :poshfuck. < 1387936740 730187 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is he bad/ i seriously don't know, i've never seen anything with him in it < 1387936741 662989 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vocabulary.extend("poshfuck"); < 1387936807 556007 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/9473337/Posh-baiting-may-drive-Benedict-Cumberbatch-to-the-US.html well he's definitely a poshfuck < 1387936851 716653 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :posh-bashing < 1387936861 624250 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :benedict cucumberpatch. < 1387936921 100700 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«“I remember being really quite scared at the Twitter thing [a global army of online fans call themselves “Cumberbitches”]» terrifying < 1387937076 270878 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cumberbitches? that is terrifying. < 1387937340 42096 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would be terrified < 1387937450 334333 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387937559 883111 :Chillectual!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387937741 435780 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387939004 45216 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387939246 870080 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387939467 909118 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387939526 720021 :Chillectual!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387939547 285038 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387939812 892589 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387939824 880296 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387940294 76622 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1387940295 306430 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387940587 557636 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1387944236 27652 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1387945327 910359 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1387947011 6720 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387947018 682170 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387947028 773702 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1387947055 368244 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 NICK :Edwardz < 1387947059 191225 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :howdy1 < 1387947061 136300 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!* < 1387947104 547891 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i have a machinegun < 1387947167 809649 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1387947203 432451 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387947209 119687 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1387947212 596684 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex NICK :preflex < 1387947261 886674 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho ho ho < 1387947413 829794 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like having an infinitely large close button on my browser < 1387948253 973005 :Chillectual!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387948268 417024 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387948275 727790 :Chillectual!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387948472 859320 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1387948980 812083 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1387949309 291521 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387949699 925318 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387949881 350495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1387951191 668554 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387953099 332804 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387954823 937077 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387955172 481909 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387956462 249233 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387956468 285898 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1387956493 602872 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex NICK :preflex < 1387958796 267892 :Gracenotes_!~person@192.241.203.42 NICK :Gracenotes < 1387959973 964503 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-198-36.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387960077 662791 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387960723 784840 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-198-36.as13285.net NICK :atriq < 1387960793 395579 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io JOIN :#esoteric < 1387960806 319491 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-30-198-36.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387967842 499813 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn34-176.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387968165 719451 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn34-176.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387968258 17432 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387968575 369762 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i don't dislike him or anything even he just has an absurd name <-- itym "cumbersome" hth < 1387968596 993199 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION almost added an extra hth to get around the filter, then remembered he wasn't on irssi
< 1387968651 35339 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume there's no one around today to get the login server i use working again. < 1387968679 877582 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn34-176.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387968782 768487 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I don't like having an infinitely large close button on my browser < 1387968789 537982 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1147) I don't like having an infinitely large close button on my browser < 1387969819 810703 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387970573 809704 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :My browser doesn't have a close button < 1387970593 129034 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1387970644 929877 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you are using a window manager without a close button on windows < 1387971223 974708 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387971226 6655 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387971322 659683 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1387971330 654061 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No window decorations whatsoever < 1387971339 359142 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for a 1 pixel border < 1387972072 909414 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387973951 249276 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387973990 408156 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1387973990 598114 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1387974028 541975 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387976293 3304 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387977670 457816 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387977876 97296 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trivia: when I was pretending to be a rabbi, the actor Mr. Neeson pretended to be my son < 1387977938 972464 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1387977982 475538 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :And today it is his birthday! < 1387978071 815358 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean liam neeson? < 1387978085 393715 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1387978089 472058 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :James Neeson < 1387978094 565582 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's 16 today < 1387978096 335901 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor < 1387978120 143628 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dad's godmother was in a play with liam neeson < 1387978120 332044 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, imagine if Liam Neeson played my son < 1387978124 784064 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm better than you Taneb < 1387978128 774613 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, get him < 1387978140 550030 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :her! < 1387978150 658775 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, get her < 1387978156 103723 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on < 1387978162 814326 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since when is Liam Neeson a "her"/ < 1387978175 672168 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i thought you meant my dad's godmother < 1387978209 91585 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :My godfather was once on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire < 1387978271 839806 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Well, get him her! Well, get her Hang on Since when is Liam Neeson a "her"/ oh i thought you meant my dad's godmother < 1387978275 819017 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1148) Well, get him her! Well, get her Hang on Since when is Liam Neeson a "her"/ oh i thought you meant my dad's godmother < 1387978297 973510 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... my great uncle makes honey? < 1387978313 345493 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my... dad's cousin is in a crime drama? < 1387978321 768296 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one < 1387978335 167266 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Doctor Blake Mysteries < 1387978575 571729 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :She played Mattie < 1387978713 667732 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doctor blake? isn't that the fake series from friends? < 1387978756 699913 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, it's also a real series from Australia < 1387978779 567865 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :australia? isn't that the fake continent? < 1387978802 573293 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, if it's fake then I'm 50% fake < 1387978807 565702 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I guess is true < 1387978811 507193 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Australia is fake! < 1387978978 916090 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387979179 854883 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm so I've got a permutation < 1387979194 304885 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have to output a sequence of instruction to build that permutation < 1387979251 950629 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those instructions will affect two dequeues a and b; a is the list to be sorted and b is initially empty < 1387979723 917968 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387982054 675785 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1387982370 3189 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387982574 745684 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387982978 29213 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387983028 470925 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387983159 68563 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387983572 86518 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 35*7+3 < 1387983573 101382 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 248 < 1387983602 713274 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 36*7+3 < 1387983604 379979 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 255 < 1387983838 29007 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387984159 737793 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :workin' on some constants? < 1387984333 254107 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was checking that new one for 255 < 1387984371 746923 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387984381 289237 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes some of the others obsolete < 1387984388 782658 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good Joyeux Noël morning! < 1387984422 437799 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily i've been working on something for you! < 1387984428 446651 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh! < 1387984429 629376 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :joilyeux noëi < 1387984434 37220 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1387984435 247140 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*l < 1387984458 850129 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjoyeux noël à toi aussi :D < 1387984486 685922 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :joyeux quinoëltopia! < 1387984587 728363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387984666 81696 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: this has been my main project of the past few days: http://imgur.com/cqSDKci < 1387984679 105106 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for you! < 1387984873 338114 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1387984887 651907 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you christmassy fiend! :p < 1387984891 769615 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYQB < 1387984898 628608 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :joyeux noïly! < 1387984908 430931 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right. I should metasepia first. < 1387984920 597489 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :joooyeux noëdl! < 1387984964 677042 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387984968 361685 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYQB < 1387984969 124434 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 251500Z 22012KT 25SM FEW020 M18/M21 A3050 RMK SC1 SC TR SLP336 < 1387985078 721920 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you could have been here. two of your fellow quebecois computer geeks are here. < 1387985083 20051 :oerjan_!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387985094 475953 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: bin wéyons don. < 1387985103 197226 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387985105 281150 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(untranslatable.) < 1387985111 501422 :oerjan_!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 NICK :oerjan < 1387985112 525278 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well damn < 1387985122 29641 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why say it if i can't understand it < 1387985132 563436 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you transcribe it for them? :D < 1387985136 958954 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there is nothing that is untranslatable if you try hard enough < 1387985157 629866 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "+++++[>+++++++<-]>[<+++++++>-]<++++" < 1387985158 729894 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 35 < 1387985186 585212 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: uhm... “well we see [emphatic particle]”? < 1387985271 37609 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an exclamation of inquiring surprise, denoting scepticism and a desire to know more. < 1387985330 707427 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotcha < 1387985360 681825 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :jordan thiboust and his wife(?) cyrielle < 1387985408 740777 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's a game designer at ubisoft (Assassin's Creed 2015) and she's a QAer at a subsidiary of Activision. < 1387985459 666952 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i should go now < 1387985524 171634 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go enjoy the droempiunbilciacn while you can! < 1387985589 320713 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to me that the new 2-cell non-wrapping algorithms are sometimes better than the old 3-cell ones... < 1387985661 828131 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :248 being the first (last?) < 1387985694 806522 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started copying by hand, but that's not going to be sustainable if this continues. < 1387985713 167396 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION also is lazy, in case someone didn't note.
< 1387985798 846922 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387985835 287958 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: your bot is not feeling well < 1387985927 651588 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I now, and it is time to go for me also. < 1387985939 329049 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh noews < 1387985978 58615 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is so. I have to resume the ongoing Towerfall tournament my bro and I are undergoing. < 1387985993 923316 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Quit: OUYING CHICKEN! < 1387986493 964417 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one awkward thing about webchat is that it gives you no direct indication that you've been disconnected, so once it's happened once i get nervous whenever the channel falls silent... < 1387986615 105703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that keeps catching ais523_ out too < 1387987690 94175 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh noooo i have to document this esolang < 1387987692 889769 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the boring part..... < 1387987738 55663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, documentation's the interesting part sometimes < 1387987745 688296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, merry christmas, all those who celebrate it today < 1387987752 826900 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :merry christmas ais523 ! < 1387987821 867250 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :merry christmas, all those who _don't_ celebrate it today! *hides behind rock* < 1387987955 345647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the set of all christmases that do not celebrate themselves < 1387990996 909540 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387991104 734252 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks ais523 and to you too. i will spend the rest of the day in cars and planes and airports < 1387991220 339343 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what is the 3-cell algorithm for 248? < 1387991247 568209 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a whole bunch listed right under the 2-cell one i inserted. < 1387991396 742361 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1387991399 448790 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :g2g < 1387991414 283310 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a nice trip < 1387992295 451134 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1387994428 807021 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1387994845 968853 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387995199 868462 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387998740 705429 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387999343 827169 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387999439 155466 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387999873 928570 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388000749 907739 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388001604 903825 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388001866 3068 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1388002015 888783 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388002463 799452 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-214-90-218.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388002585 982895 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-88.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388002809 966743 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388002886 829079 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-214-90-218.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388003040 318699 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1388003573 108271 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388003911 628019 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I make a dotted strikeout on a MediaWiki file? < 1388003965 831999 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388004031 277141 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn34-176.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 241 seconds < 1388004773 935553 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388004774 453877 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388004790 294835 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i don't recall seeing dotted strikeouts... < 1388004887 834449 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388005270 533459 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«the holes (called "exploits" in security lingo) » < 1388005344 504887 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting too close to black exploits is very insecure. < 1388005371 81122 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://www.businessinsider.com/security-folks-share-snapchat-hack-2013-12) < 1388005620 411718 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Outlook is telling me I missed a meeting this morning... I'm very distinctly certain I have Christmas day off < 1388005690 935847 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just missed the message yesterday evening that your day off was canceled hth < 1388005760 166001 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your day off /was/ the meeting < 1388005780 390585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the meeting was inside you all along < 1388005791 957396 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's the true meaning of christmas < 1388005988 314297 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just before christmas does sound like a shitty time to reveal an exploit. < 1388006007 621184 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :doctor who christmas special was godalmighty mess; news at eleven < 1388006021 892756 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: was it a timey-wimey mess? < 1388006083 573966 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I got a weird voicemail that must have been intended for someone else < 1388006145 780510 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, not even, it was just... a mess < 1388006159 75755 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1388006174 667620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it a hot mess < 1388006181 708532 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1388006197 540090 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bose-einstein mess < 1388006205 192343 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It didn't air yet... oh, I guess it aired in England earlier? < 1388006220 935266 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :earlier than in scotland? < 1388006222 510126 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, SCOTLAND you MIMSY FUCK < 1388006235 242467 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought scotland was in england < 1388006251 715711 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;___; < 1388006256 230797 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i refuse to believe olsner isn't joking < 1388006269 349499 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope olsner isn't joking < 1388006274 705659 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, is joking < 1388006279 806657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: right now a huge scottish man is running at you with a claymore < 1388006280 766088 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some chart somewhere, but I kind of don't remember it < 1388006300 295564 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also would have thought that Phantom_Hoover is in England and not Scotland < 1388006301 902282 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1388006304 663778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that complicated. until you try to explain jersey and guernsey and shit like that < 1388006309 584627 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://qntm.org/files/uk/uk.gif < 1388006316 576052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Phantom_Hoover's been well-established to claim to be Scottish < 1388006323 165679 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://qntm.org/uk < 1388006334 205179 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a gif? wtf sam) < 1388006342 242592 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :england and scotland are in the same place on that chart, that's good enough for me < 1388006342 449170 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wavering back and forth as to whether or not too say UK < 1388006358 644606 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, you're going to watch it anyone so i'll not spoil anything in the hope that you realise it's a mess first-hand < 1388006358 872550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that the placement of the dots within Great Britain is vaguely geographical < 1388006368 322064 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/anyone/anyway < 1388006371 298907 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ < 1388006390 175263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are talking about whether they'll redesign the Union Jack if Scotland leaves the UK < 1388006403 72137 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1388006406 168648 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BBC has some example redesigns most of which are eye-wateringly ugly http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25222891 < 1388006412 968959 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd have to lose the blue background, it'd be a disaster < 1388006428 654748 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :will scotland still be in the GB or the commonwealth after independence? < 1388006438 279199 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :swapping blue for green < 1388006445 489047 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet the unionists will be right on board with that < 1388006451 144372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Great Britain is a mostly geographic term not a political one < 1388006458 231865 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just means the whole island < 1388006472 890571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but basic lesson in geography of that area: the British Isles is an archipelago, of which Great Britain is the largest island and Ireland is the second-largest; the UK is a country/nation, which currently contains all of Great Britain, many of the surrounding islands, Northern Ireland, and some random areas elsewhere in the world (Scotland is considering independence); the main "countries of the UK" are England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland, < 1388006474 351680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with some minor smaller ones; and the Republic of Ireland is the other major nation in the archipelago, which consists of all of Ireland apart from Northern Ireland < 1388006479 413540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think plans are to stay in the commonwealth but not sure < 1388006518 177457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, "is Scotland in Great Britain" is a bit of a type error, and the closest answer is "Scotland is a country of the UK, most (but not all) of which consists of land on the island Great Britain" < 1388006525 1651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the UK is the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" etc. and that could be awkward if their territory doesn't include the whole island of Britain < 1388006536 949244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd just be renamed again < 1388006537 874784 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, re ireland, ulster is generally used interchangeably with northern ireland, but parts of ulster aren't actually in northern ireland < 1388006541 279740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the Republic of Ireland doesn't include the whole island of Ireland so whatever < 1388006546 388781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Ulster is a county, isn't it? < 1388006561 944304 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's... a province, i think? it's the biggest division < 1388006570 35746 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that makes more sense < 1388006581 27208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the more interesting question I think is whether Scotland gets grandfathered into the EU or whether they'll have to join afresh < 1388006604 432317 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does scotland want to be in the EU? < 1388006604 912775 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is then subdivided into counties; iirc donegal is the only counter in ulster and the ROI < 1388006609 174376 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, yes < 1388006613 246721 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :very much so < 1388006626 19137 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah and England wants out :3 < 1388006656 638905 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/71533000/jpg/_71533511_350641.jpg i wonder if this was designed just to piss off both sides in ireland < 1388006683 384140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but iirc most of the pro-independence groups want to keep using the pound and enter a currency union with the uk, rather than switching to the euro < 1388006686 364829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be awkward < 1388006695 171203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because states joining the EU are required to be on a path to adopting the euro < 1388006701 152905 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :we already print our own banknotes after all < 1388006708 912056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK having negotiated an exemption at the start of the EU < 1388006723 771159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: which aren't accepted in England, on the basis that most shopkeepers don't know how to tell whether they're real or forgeries < 1388006724 175321 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a call from what I assume to be a wrong number, not sure if I should call back < 1388006732 746102 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... even how I could call back < 1388006747 426803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does that exemption carry over to scotland or what < 1388006747 616915 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you can stay on the path pretty long without actuall getting the euro though < 1388006748 606908 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, eh, it varies on the shopkeeper < 1388006751 148034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: that's true < 1388006764 411313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: indeed < 1388006784 360717 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'm in favour of the EU, but not of the euro < 1388006794 575143 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388006800 73275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I consider Scottish independence an interesting prospect, but don't believe it will actually happen in practice < 1388006800 927986 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure anyone's really in favour of the euro any more < 1388006807 531076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I like that some states use the euro without the knowledge or approval of the ECB < 1388006812 682286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er I mean they know obviously < 1388006815 716823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's no formal approval < 1388006879 683844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as a result they don't get any say in monetary policy < 1388006974 533892 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows ECB mode is insecure anyway < 1388007103 467678 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388007207 744754 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [Just (), Nothing] >>= repeat < 1388007209 63503 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Jus... < 1388007235 154220 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [Just (), Nothing] >>= replicate 3 < 1388007236 192428 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [Just (),Just (),Just (),Nothing,Nothing,Nothing] < 1388007256 890650 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that first one anything like the mythical 0.9 repeating 1? < 1388007266 438528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no < 1388007272 243965 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1388007274 933726 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me simplify it < 1388007279 298017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1, 2] >>= repeat < 1388007280 449118 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1... < 1388007288 627483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, repeat makes an infinite list of 1s < 1388007295 720870 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and then twos after infinity, I would think < 1388007302 849177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, of its argument < 1388007305 35994 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except they aren't reachable < 1388007305 277816 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the same as concatenating an infinite list of 1s to an infinite list to 2s < 1388007320 923090 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you view it as a List monad action, it replaces each element of a list with infinitely many copies < 1388007327 165229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah, the 2s are unreachable < 1388007327 372428 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, so, like 0.99999999999999999999 repeating followed by something else, which doesn't really make sense < 1388007338 208410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1, fix id] >>= repeat < 1388007339 421232 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1... < 1388007345 462758 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [fix id, 1] >>= repeat < 1388007348 884871 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(>>= f) is just concat . map f < 1388007349 100226 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1388007357 340513 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or concatMap f < 1388007401 20886 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I need the tutorial on >>= in the list monad < 1388007453 30085 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought we were just saying factual stuff randomly < 1388007542 324182 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about fictional stuff randomly? id is non-strict on its argument < 1388007554 430319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: that's what you do all the time < 1388007605 547946 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Sometimes < 1388007634 329269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo is writing list monad fan fiction < 1388007634 570095 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pure Haskell functions do not mutate anything < 1388007730 501113 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laziness is actually a limited form of mutation < 1388007736 57978 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's an implementation detail < 1388007757 775249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thatsthejoke.png < 1388007761 836553 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I should specify GHC? < 1388007883 616882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny though because it means that ghc haskell has this pervasive hidden side effect that is almost impossible to reason about < 1388007892 746800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you care about performance < 1388007900 322129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's like the opposite of what haskell is supposed to be about < 1388007904 135657 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we could say .999....4 is 9*10^-1 + 9*10^-2 + 9*10^-3 + ... + 4*10^-\infty < 1388007955 802416 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't think it's possible to follow the standard and do much better with regards to performance though < 1388007965 713772 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :arithmetic on \infty is poorly defined < 1388007975 24246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: well it is, but in ways that aren't really relevant to my point < 1388007990 440400 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easy to do 0.999... < 1388007992 804841 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we define 10^-\infty as zero. for the sake of my meaningless point < 1388007994 962606 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just 9/9 < 1388007995 946532 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idris has laziness annotations in function types, and strict by default otherwise < 1388008000 65010 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes thank you FreeFull < 1388008001 566765 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which seems like a good idea to me < 1388008003 614135 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do arithmetic on ω and such < 1388008007 983841 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 8 / 9 < 1388008009 163979 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.8888888888888888 < 1388008013 891462 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 / 9 * 9 < 1388008014 958185 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0 < 1388008020 494526 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blowing my mind here < 1388008034 338172 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 12345 / 99999 < 1388008035 399757 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.12345123451234512 < 1388008069 760644 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 71 / 39 < 1388008070 897450 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.8205128205128205 < 1388008089 967220 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the 71 doesn't repeat < 1388008093 879429 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 71/99 < 1388008094 965733 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.7171717171717171 < 1388008099 40004 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pi / exp(sqrt(2)) < 1388008100 135041 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.763773746863268 < 1388008112 552932 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too irrational D:< < 1388008118 9188 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 / -1 < 1388008118 915864 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Precedence parsing error < 1388008119 110211 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : cannot mix `GHC.Real./' [infixl 7] and prefix `-' [infixl 6] in the same... < 1388008129 178364 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most people here know the denominator 9s trick... although I'm not totally sure how it works < 1388008145 709590 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just take the limit. < 1388008146 344377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had forgotten < 1388008147 777540 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone loves limits < 1388008155 349492 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :know your limits < 1388008173 438379 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It works in other bases too < 1388008202 790658 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could have guessed... base-1 several times in denominator < 1388008239 43167 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it works in fractional bases < 1388008471 277571 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :S = a*b^-1 + a*b^-2 + ... -> S*b = a + a*b^-1 + a*b^-2 -> S*b = a + S -> S(b-1) = a -> S = a/(b-1) < 1388008484 391671 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :throw another ellipsis in there, barkeep < 1388008553 410422 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how simple repunits are to generate < 1388008563 193824 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(10^n - 1)/(10-1) < 1388008572 747243 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works for any integer base that is 2 or bigger < 1388008594 646187 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :n is a positive integer < 1388008602 553691 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a positive integer < 1388008636 858565 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you < 1388008683 57280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the nice thing is that it works for negative n too < 1388008689 370740 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-0.1, -0.11, -0.111, -0.1111, etc. < 1388008700 256477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(again, regardless of the base) < 1388008764 615333 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume ais523 meant FreeFull < 1388008776 221079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, yes < 1388008805 104424 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, except for ending up negative < 1388008817 751507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the 0th repunit is 0 < 1388008820 967997 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Today is your day < 1388008825 552760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so negative repunits have to be negative, really < 1388008827 637418 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :merry christmas < 1388008841 340266 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :merry christmas. < 1388008884 596365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :merry christmas < 1388008900 557765 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :chris merrytmas < 1388008913 561589 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather, I should say.. < 1388008920 461855 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388008922 195229 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy Baby Jesus Blowout Extravaganza 2013. < 1388008947 659137 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Goormaghtigh conjecture' < 1388008950 436081 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: just realized you don't need laziness to get infinite data structures... Rust has effectively infinite data structures via owned pointers, right? < 1388008996 228671 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't think they're infinite < 1388009033 283412 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe not owned pointers particularly, but some sort of pointer? < 1388009058 117949 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is seven an infinite data structure < 1388009098 985440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: how do you figure < 1388009130 470898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :any structure made of owned & borrowed pointers can be built using raw C-style pointers (in Rust or in C) < 1388009148 480999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can do one using managed pointers < 1388009151 950214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just with no safety checking or smart memory management < 1388009152 249450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an infinite structure, that is < 1388009165 877153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, cyclic < 1388009180 674298 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to use pointers in Rust for recursive structures < 1388009184 511781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do a "cyclic" structure with a mix of owned and borrowed, but it'd be one where all the cycles were broken via borrowed pointers < 1388009184 715958 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to have forgotten about non-cyclic infinite structures < 1388009191 247200 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly owned pointers < 1388009201 311804 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some advantages of seven: * infinitely many bits * prime * not like those other girls < 1388009207 967435 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can represent something like the classic Haskell "infinite list" in Rust or C, you just need to explicitly distinguish the thunk at the end of the list-so-far and call it to get more elems < 1388009210 90197 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-recursive structures are basically unboxed < 1388009226 291647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Rust brings anything special in this area < 1388009244 245722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it might have infinitely many bits, but most of them are zeros :-( < 1388009261 452029 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: allowing for efficient storage! < 1388009269 777407 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly, seven is the data structure of the future < 1388009349 703155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f 0 = "{}"; f n = (let x = f (n-1) in x ++ ",{" ++ x ++ "}") in f 7 < 1388009350 803784 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "{},{{}},{{},{{}}},{{},{{}},{{},{{}}}},{{},{{}},{{},{{}}},{{},{{}},{{},{{}}}... < 1388009438 445966 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes u think < 1388009574 167365 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388009624 817538 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388009792 813969 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still amuses me that the first thing you see in Newcastle's chinatown is the Tynedale Irish Club < 1388009868 724480 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388010196 688259 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lcxaxklselyrxqwv QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1388010295 420333 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Unbalancedness! < 1388010343 795097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is the irish club run by chinese people < 1388010366 938176 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk, I'm neither < 1388010370 752134 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they serve chinese turkey < 1388010414 236779 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, yeah, on finest turkish china < 1388010417 11699 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388010448 970169 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell year < 1388010701 564700 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, did you like the doctor who christmas special < 1388010739 545796 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I enjoyed it but I try really hard to enjoy everything so I don't know whether it was good or not < 1388010779 675890 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're missing out man < 1388011061 42276 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Missing Out Man, the worst superhero < 1388011221 983421 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never there when he's needed? < 1388011262 822069 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fizzie < 1388011271 682487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's your xmas and such < 1388011307 312650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's following established trajectories. < 1388011543 858605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(We've made the traditional christmas foods -- tortillas with a meat-onion-bell-pepper fillings; chocolate fondue with (totally) bananas -- and I've mostly been playing games on a computer.) < 1388011759 319881 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Google Chrome could not load the webpage because store.steampowered.com took too long to respond. The website may be down, or you may be experiencing issues with your Internet connection." man, that "free L4D2" deal just did a number on their servers.) < 1388011784 380348 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1388011793 322765 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and we had that Pallini evening, though that was somewhat before the holidays. < 1388011803 812875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The "my balls" brand of limoncello.) < 1388011960 80289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, balls < 1388011971 69674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens on Pallini evening, other than the drinking of Pallini? < 1388011983 812541 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it more like "what happens on Pallini evening stays in Pallini evening"? < 1388011997 989864 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :mooo < 1388012059 539803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: We watched The Running Man, because it was being shown by one of the local TV channels, and it seemed somehow appropriate. < 1388012141 303948 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unrelated: I was tempted to say "playing vidcons" back there, a word I learned from a Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden video, but was afraid the reference wouldn't be "gotten".) < 1388012349 27624 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: your christmas cuisine seems somehow unfinnish... < 1388012416 345294 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, well, that's because Finnish christmas cuisine is kind of stupid. < 1388012862 829518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is finnish christmas cuisine? < 1388012930 953280 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388012941 912906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "centerpiece" is conventionally a ham, but the turkey has been stealing some market share. < 1388013017 316092 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388013036 924312 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there's fish in a couple of ways, the "boxes" (various casseroles; potato, carrot, rutabaga are the usual triplet) and "rosolli", which is a kind of a beetroot/carrot/potato/apple/etc. salad. < 1388013061 430760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter sometimes with whipped cream, possibly coloured light pink with the beetroot juice. < 1388013090 411085 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Karelian stew in the eastern parts, but I'm not sure if that counts, since it's quite an everyday food there too. < 1388013100 605134 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beetroot juice can colour other things too < 1388013135 853857 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1388013160 839689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and rice porridge, possibly not as a part of the actual christmas dinner but just generally during this time of the year. < 1388013181 813014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some sort of plum-based dessert, that's quite common too. < 1388013188 676793 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's about all I can think of offhand. < 1388013236 516587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ham is supposed to have some kind of a mustard glazing thing going on, too. < 1388013277 344146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, and there's glögi (mulled wine) to drink, but there's nothing wrong with *that*.) < 1388013378 952037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people eat lutefisk, I believe. < 1388013424 958541 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388013644 314793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really understand the appeal of turkeys < 1388013647 656828 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the meat is flavorless < 1388013672 993136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull with the #beetrootjuicefacts < 1388013694 813726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mulled wine is great < 1388013916 944955 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388014124 904703 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it's more of a "it's twenty degrees below freezing out there" drink, seems a bit of a waste for this "flat +5 °C day and night" weather. < 1388014329 26273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1388014336 639853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty warm < 1388014857 355591 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://outside.aalto.fi/img/temp.week.png < 1388014942 491270 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warmer than the average, but possibly nothing too unlikely yet. < 1388014955 343999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Statistically, two out of three christmases in Helsinki are white. < 1388014984 223794 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1388015484 82791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I guess it's already not-Christmas there < 1388015577 928300 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might depend how you define christmas. < 1388015604 253092 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been the 26th for about two hours now. < 1388015623 982434 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by some norwegian traditions, "jul" lasts for 20 days. < 1388015698 141429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some would say that christmas is on january 7 < 1388015767 111737 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was the sixth < 1388015803 752636 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sixth is a holiday in sweden anyway < 1388015819 443299 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Thirteenth day of christmas" < 1388015865 868511 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess it's twelth day, counting from the 25th < 1388015957 365729 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :look i just put "orthodox easter" into google i didn't ask a bishop or w/e < 1388015959 148236 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, thirteenth < 1388017578 5784 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388017614 304913 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 QUIT :Client Quit < 1388017694 563560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Memory has been exhausted; operation cannot continue (sorry). < 1388017706 221931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xview is polite < 1388017754 135355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/kmcallister/8128275 < 1388017774 778474 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1388017789 238507 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sorry it didn't work out." --qmail-send < 1388017794 377151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1388017816 925589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Internal compiler error. It's not you, it's me." < 1388017906 862574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hi. This is the qmail-send program at hostname.tld. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out." (Full version.) < 1388017978 395549 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my stupid regex missed: %s: Sorry, cannot load images deeper than 16 bits (yet) < 1388018221 393197 :oerjan!6d6cca49@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.108.202.73 QUIT :Quit: Natta < 1388018444 782588 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388018724 300323 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388019023 918527 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388019608 584263 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :ChristmasInterpo < 1388019634 779836 :ChristmasInterpo!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :HolidayInterpol < 1388019937 457647 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388020546 580534 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap solar eclipse cruises sell out quickly < 1388022221 153934 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Comment on a RuneScape music video) < 1388022222 933864 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"even though the game is back no one is generous. I say that because im angry. Yes there are a few generous people but i had to BEG people to sell me law runes so i could teleport somewhere, i wasnt asking for free i said ill pay and i begged and begged but no one even acknowledged me and the few who did, well guess what they wrote ? then they walked off after i asked." < 1388022274 13547 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388022278 772012 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 NICK :Edwardz < 1388022319 359193 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey guys! I just "Google Scholar'd" "brainfuck" and got some really cool results that I think an esoteric language community would be interested in. Foremost, however, is definitely this one! < 1388022320 49847 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nada.kth.se/kurser/kth/2D1464/awib.pdf < 1388022336 263055 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did any of you publish this...? ;) < 1388022338 558623 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you give me a title or something, i don't want to download a pdf < 1388022351 493539 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, Chrome makes one forget about the whole PDF thing. < 1388022358 439406 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The design and implementation of awib, a brainfuck compiler written in brainfuck < 1388022377 990029 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there are a couple of those on the esolang page < 1388022391 2558 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/awib < 1388022397 172643 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there we go. < 1388022400 26339 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awib is notable enough ;) < 1388022406 851402 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hadn't checked, apologies. I found the background and preface extremely cool. < 1388022438 815317 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/matslina weird how you can find anybody on the internet nowadays < 1388022510 664583 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, in return, have this paper http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.1749 < 1388022539 329218 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's freakin' awesome! < 1388022796 378527 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 QUIT : < 1388022827 3610 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388023300 286487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :arxiv is the best venue for publishing hard sci-fi < 1388023368 301647 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sci-fi so hard it actually happened < 1388023422 122617 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i should use that to refer to naturalistic novels < 1388023719 483160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well some of it is about, like, hypothetical space missions to save the earth from the sun blowing up in 5 billion years < 1388023756 344087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the self-replicating intergalactic probes < 1388023930 999897 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i oughta make me some o those < 1388023951 340766 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any estimates on how long they'd take to kill us all if i sent one to, say, tau ceti < 1388024853 256192 :ineiros_!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1388025097 485450 :Taneb_!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1388025238 405066 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388025238 593353 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388025238 781807 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388025239 517149 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388025239 705385 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388025507 331932 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388025539 919235 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388025719 999018 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388025878 395745 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1388026023 218894 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388026037 496988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1388026043 627582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION drinking mulled peach wine
< 1388026216 137257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like peaches < 1388026225 509596 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1388026273 67909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but do you like wines < 1388026310 631551 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mulled wine is good < 1388026311 909589 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bur < 1388026315 362769 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :peach? < 1388026319 543177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1388026319 731250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncertain < 1388026325 822922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :will mull it over < 1388026327 293919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :peach wine is p. good (n=1) < 1388026765 250925 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388027189 635201 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388027243 580496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you have a good christmas or w/e < 1388027354 461803 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388027531 933514 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1388027799 104343 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388027901 800492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not v. < 1388027971 362429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps next year < 1388027973 933909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1388028000 666252 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do < 1388028011 644839 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote christmas < 1388028013 612336 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :522) CakeProphet: mr president, in the best egyptian judicial traditions has now been put off to friday. but i want my money back'. we know it generally deals with major infrastructure projects which could form part of the emergency package for korea, on christmas eve, in the interests of consumers and the environment of gmos. \ 836) < 1388028017 731070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tried to sleep through the noise while being sick < 1388028020 596860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 836 < 1388028022 108906 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :836) no christmas without christ, no thursday without thor < 1388028030 232035 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good quote kmc < 1388028031 930053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :was woken up at 3something by loud music < 1388028037 672123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1388028053 843343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are so inconsiderate < 1388028331 734903 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388029415 128007 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388030152 560040 :augur_!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388030765 349592 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388031328 892342 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388031541 931248 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388032440 268920 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1388032450 546570 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I got a "Puzzle Strike" game. < 1388032465 489470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it good? < 1388032488 278366 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1388032780 903941 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388033501 898384 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1388033505 187444 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1388033529 139235 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1388033539 414013 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388033545 993909 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex NICK :preflex < 1388033904 827948 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388033952 126748 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1388035365 280602 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what which fuck < 1388036852 891789 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388037274 533400 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388037392 779156 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1388038827 962244 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1388039019 919479 :HolidayInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388039216 4789 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388039238 781060 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1388039262 540498 :typeclassy!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cyfzjgyhdwtnnbeh JOIN :#esoteric < 1388040485 577782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1388044168 927674 :farrioth!~farrioth@236.69.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388044517 12806 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cgi.cs.indiana.edu/~oracle/digest.cgi?N=1524#1524-02 < 1388044519 196614 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sad now < 1388044527 14336 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want the Internet Oracle to die < 1388045459 633807 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cgi.cs.indiana.edu/~oracle/digest.cgi?N=1521#1521-03 I like this one < 1388045881 180780 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cgi.cs.indiana.edu/~oracle/digest.cgi?N=1521#1521-05 < 1388046925 969684 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help im addicted < 1388046963 697457 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why couldn't you get addicted to heroin like a good son < 1388047809 580521 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to be awake and coherent soon :/ < 1388047866 460033 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388047869 27627 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what might help with that? drugz < 1388047920 717118 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388047950 932962 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A very good idea immediately before a drug test < 1388047983 136838 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't have enough drugz you'll fail the drug tesst < 1388048448 127581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1388049355 821980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : was woken up at 3something by loud music <-- i'm going to assume something = pm, because it makes the rest funnier (and i still feel with you) < 1388049441 907171 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388051301 943593 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388052010 774871 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-owofrflaztknacye JOIN :#esoteric < 1388053976 857451 :farrioth!~farrioth@236.69.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PART :#esoteric < 1388054600 82698 :Taneb_!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org NICK :Taneb < 1388054895 475745 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388057614 828955 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388059059 429697 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1388059341 390266 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388059757 393588 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1388060063 519336 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388060511 471286 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1388060579 987662 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388060895 790259 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388061826 950073 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388061962 43449 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1388062585 525499 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388063736 702415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1388064157 382251 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rec.humor.oracle.d is full of spam < 1388064166 942700 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like a hovercraft full of eels < 1388064326 617944 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388065223 466380 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388065634 619370 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388066042 824732 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388066130 564719 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome w00tles < 1388066135 682413 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04w00tles: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08irc.dal.net.) < 1388066247 93257 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388066393 930552 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388068133 952301 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388068173 307732 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1388068173 547299 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1388068819 672683 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388069368 791611 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388069601 767452 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388069965 394962 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388069989 600366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131226-lifenative.jpg -- don't know why, but I just absolutely have to take a picture whenever a public computer has crashed. < 1388071535 260863 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388071683 797026 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388071998 189535 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what is lifenative? < 1388072138 627727 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388072210 19862 :HolidayInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388072280 893153 :HolidayInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :LinearInterpol < 1388072303 534610 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :HolidayInterpol < 1388072577 513041 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No clue, but I assume it's the software responsible for the interactive multimedia experience under the error message. < 1388073056 955483 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a N900? sweet :D < 1388073197 747121 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, the exif tags survived the trip through Gimp? Fancy. < 1388074120 743330 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388074697 599612 :HolidayInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388074725 35910 :HolidayInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388074796 797311 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily < 1388074932 837517 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia. < 1388075376 702524 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388075421 32872 :HolidayInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388075437 463127 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYQB < 1388075438 660732 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 261600Z 05006KT 3/4SM -SN OVC007 M11/M14 A3024 RMK SN6SF2 SLP248 < 1388075836 751793 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESKN < 1388075839 140345 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESKN 261620Z 09004KT 9000 MIFG BR NSC 00/00 Q1002 R26/710164 < 1388075912 797462 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, BR was that french word for something, wasn't it? < 1388075934 526341 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«brume». < 1388075953 648867 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you have MIFG ← http://www.aeroinstructor.com/2011/02/shallow-fog-metar-mifg/ < 1388075964 96173 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :brume, "poetic heavy mist or fog" < 1388076064 143888 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brume is lighter than fog. < 1388076367 220777 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no significant cloud... and 00/00 is temperature = dewpoint = 0 C? < 1388076589 902334 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1388076614 406158 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's R26/710164? < 1388076635 100119 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that 9000 is visibility? < 1388076794 329632 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rnn/nnnnnn is runway condition. I can't decipher them without a guide. < 1388076814 135116 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9000 is ground visibility. I think it's 9 km, but I'm not sure. < 1388076830 317536 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mutters to himself “metric units...”
< 1388076842 647183 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna rehost my esolangs page < 1388076854 562970 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388076878 932131 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388077278 575804 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://runciman.hacksoc.org/~taneb/esolangs.html < 1388077330 36537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: s/Read/Real/ on the last entry there. < 1388077355 949159 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, good spot < 1388077367 747330 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: your page, it is exclamatory! < 1388077496 364662 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing! < 1388077518 546141 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: seems your R group is a special European runway designation →https://www.ivao.aero/training/tutorials/metar/metar.htm, § EIGHT FIGURE GROUP. < 1388077799 946461 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388077985 21585 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388078066 765552 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: why does MIBBLLII not have square brackets? :( < 1388078102 8263 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, it does < 1388078104 668831 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388078110 759793 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :were < 1388078111 948702 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*h < 1388078114 243033 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just they're syntax, not operators < 1388078159 667183 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It uses [ and ] as brackets for grouping combinators" < 1388078166 179065 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1388078201 495612 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't you provide interpreters? < 1388078222 593498 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly because either there isn't an interpreter or because I haven't bothered < 1388078229 100827 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where they exist the wiki links to them < 1388078582 372192 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just they're syntax, not operators < 1388078595 492245 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I'm gonna be wrong aren't I < 1388078599 885885 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :would anyone be really pissed if i went through the brainfuck constants page and deleted all but one of each the "multiplying factors" programs that were identical up to commutation of factors? < 1388078600 91998 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a distinction of definition isn't it? < 1388078620 527743 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :like people define [] in brainfuck as 'operators' but you get exactly the same language as you get if you define them as 'syntax' < 1388078650 944300 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I don't think you would in MIBBLII < 1388078711 444333 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you'd have to change the semantics of bf to define them as syntax right? [ and ] actually do things (compare the current cell to zero) and that functionality would have to be moved into a category of "the way grouped commands in this language behave" < 1388078728 496958 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1388078802 755518 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :in bf i would just say "+-,.<> work as normal, [prog] runs prog if the current cell is nonzero, then [prog] again" < 1388078823 994474 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that would work < 1388078847 947206 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially exactly what i was saying < 1388078907 422277 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see where the confusion was now < 1388079099 711599 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah, no one cares if i go on a BF constants deleting spree? < 1388079108 461774 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not I! < 1388079118 787146 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you care < 1388079240 462331 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388079505 897537 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388079912 386973 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is munching on some crackers while he watches the deleting spree.
< 1388079956 251960 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: delete to you heart content! < 1388079958 431899 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it's not very exciting < 1388079971 81588 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hungry, there are crackers. < 1388080060 86441 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it important to delete constants? < 1388080070 934039 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice thing about BF is that programs that look very similar probably are very similar in what they do. (for a specific meaning of "look similar") < 1388080082 383962 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes everyone should < 1388080144 125426 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm environmentally aware. I recycle my constants. < 1388080480 372042 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: a reversible computing proponent? < 1388080657 778144 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388080822 497445 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388081320 763515 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1388081437 472272 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chellontrapumpkin. < 1388081457 407671 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388081544 329266 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 100% efficiency isn't physically possible, so there are always some side-effects left. sure, you get some FDIV errors here and there when using recycled numbers, but it's the best for Nature, Earth, and Round Blue Stuff like that. < 1388082005 657804 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reversible computing doesn't change the entropy of the system, I think < 1388082024 311580 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reversible computing minimizes the entropy increase < 1388082025 577530 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, not until you want to get the answer < 1388082038 892955 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you get the theoretically minimum energy usage < 1388082059 859584 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because you are mad if you think it will do 0 entropy increase) < 1388082080 665632 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAD I TELL YOU < 1388082107 175228 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :INSANE! < 1388082108 744677 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WENDEL! < 1388082168 924103 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388082206 552271 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can't do computation without entropy increase < 1388082223 395090 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Information theory and all that < 1388082231 577543 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AGREE WITH SLEREAH! FREEFULL IS MAD! (also, what is a wendel?) < 1388082241 689961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you get the answer too, you just can't forget anything? < 1388082258 84438 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388082298 873965 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJiD43oeLCU#t=2m58 < 1388082324 777253 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: oh. tdh. < 1388082331 729528 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh? < 1388082336 707042 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well, I am mad < 1388082347 830466 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I never said you could compute without increasing entropy < 1388082388 740356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mad < 1388082389 580095 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdh < 1388082390 424664 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." < 1388082391 425772 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh is the past tense of a successful hth. hth. < 1388082433 460297 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho, entropy and madness are usually orthogonal, but you never know. sometimes they leak unto each other. < 1388082456 58216 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should finish reading that book < 1388082458 133673 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then how do you explain perpetual motion machines < 1388082466 667335 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It came with my phone < 1388082472 358723 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lack of entropy brings madness < 1388082501 69499 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole wacky insane thing is so very unpleasant after havin nightmares about schizophrenia < 1388082521 555819 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I had a fun dream like that < 1388082528 327002 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hallucinating, like < 1388082533 7451 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallucinating like hell < 1388082536 335659 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And i was screaming < 1388082540 820980 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only screaming in my mind < 1388082549 54941 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BECAUSE NO SOUND WAS COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH < 1388082552 906719 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun dream < 1388082560 675265 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'Perpetual motion machines came with FreeFull's phone. They were hallucinated by Slereah's lack of entropy.' >wisdom/'perpetual motion machine' < 1388082564 681518 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1388082582 297318 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? perpetual motion machine < 1388082584 203517 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perpetual motion machines came with FreeFulls phone. They were hallucinated by Slereahs lack of entropy. < 1388082591 65411 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? perpetuum mobile < 1388082592 104859 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm. < 1388082592 696317 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perpetuum mobile? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1388082607 46389 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "Perpetual motion machines came with FreeFull's phone. They were hallucinated by Slereah's lack of entropy." >wisdom/'perpetual motion machine' < 1388082610 441017 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1388082615 829788 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do neural networks dream < 1388082621 179904 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly of electric sheep < 1388082627 27956 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck perpetuum < 1388082661 163177 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -l wisdom/'perpetual motion machine' wisdom/'perpetuum mobile' < 1388082662 527156 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: invalid option -- 'l' \ Try `ln --help' for more information. < 1388082664 386808 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bot is lagged. it just got to “WENDEL!” < 1388082668 360629 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s wisdom/'perpetual motion machine' wisdom/'perpetuum mobile' < 1388082671 789559 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: accessing `wisdom/perpetuum mobile': Not a directory < 1388082685 931577 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s wisdom/'perpetuum mobile' wisdom/'perpetual motion machine' < 1388082687 230792 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: creating symbolic link `wisdom/perpetual motion machine': File exists < 1388082691 837076 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always get the order mixed up < 1388082693 968501 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1388082703 395892 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? perpetuum mobile < 1388082703 884329 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388082704 907786 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perpetuum mobile? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1388082733 803956 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it mean by not a directory again? < 1388082745 807678 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s ./wisdom/'perpetuum mobile' 'perpetual motion machine' < 1388082749 433738 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: accessing `perpetual motion machine': Not a directory < 1388082752 736490 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388082771 85067 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s 'perpetual motion machine' ./wisdom/'perpetuum mobile' < 1388082772 410765 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: accessing `./wisdom/perpetuum mobile': Not a directory < 1388082780 999334 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s 'perpetual motion machine' /hackego/wisdom/'perpetuum mobile' < 1388082782 272207 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: creating symbolic link `/hackego/wisdom/perpetuum mobile': No such file or directory < 1388082787 907114 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should stop < 1388082798 550100 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1388082832 868259 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388082850 694070 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388082856 588199 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck perpetuum < 1388082870 544320 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1388082875 11746 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetuum_mobile < 1388082902 295609 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that page is about it in music < 1388082915 772920 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1388083075 148844 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :One fun thing about perpetual motion is that the capillary bowl setup actually works if you use superliquid helium < 1388083082 997024 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't extract energy from it though < 1388083109 245523 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the helium will end up dripping out < 1388083153 705054 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could make it enclosed, and use some material that doesn't have microscopic pores < 1388083158 33895 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388083246 109926 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm wrong about this < 1388083248 33615 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd have a dripping, supercooled, isolated perpetual motion machine? < 1388083274 218613 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well, you'd have to keep it cool < 1388083278 222326 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd take energy < 1388083283 310063 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'huge dogecoin heist' no, world, i'm not ready for this < 1388083298 532491 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dogecoins were never a good thing < 1388083425 362648 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388083517 483993 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.imgur.com/nh2vUkx.png&fnr < 1388083666 394777 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ê? < 1388084345 331788 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a bit disappointed because of the lack of any offline haskell interpreters for android < 1388084511 772893 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :typing code on a phone sounds painful < 1388084514 111536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1388084531 434451 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on your keyboard < 1388084545 745609 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacker's keyboard on a tablet is actually pretty usable < 1388084570 579524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just like a hovercraft full of eels <-- well they're both monty python terms hth < 1388084619 26177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Sgeo Just like a hovercraft full of eels <-- well they're both monty python terms hth < 1388084619 232486 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388085260 8760 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hovercraft < 1388085261 878089 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a-é-ro-g-liss-e-ur. If you mention eels, you'll get smacked with one of them in a most unappropriate manner. < 1388085264 554703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⠠⠵⠠⠵ HACKER KEYBOARD⠠⠵⠠⠵ < 1388085295 107591 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Sgeo you deserve an inappropriate smack. < 1388085295 314446 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388085312 331553 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gacks at such an horrendous usage of Braille
< 1388085382 736073 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, you could write base64 perfectly fine with braille < 1388085609 49474 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⠠⠵ < 1388085612 68959 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2820 BRAILLE PATTERN DOTS-6] [U+2835 BRAILLE PATTERN DOTS-1356] < 1388085708 694473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode BRAILLE PATTERN DOTS-6 < 1388085710 280693 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⠠ < 1388085724 262843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1388085948 799126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'BRAILLE PATTERN DOTS-45' 'BRAILLE PATTERN DOTS-12' 'BRAILLE PATTERN DOTS-36' < 1388085950 535235 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⠘⠃⠤ < 1388085969 302773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1388086017 968167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'BRAILLE PATTERN DOTS-35' 'BRAILLE PATTERN DOTS-14' 'BRAILLE PATTERN DOTS-26' < 1388086019 904006 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⠔⠉⠢ < 1388086029 961033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's better < 1388086038 914960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi bike < 1388086048 597159 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1388086078 916302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var $ cycle "⠔⠉⠢" < 1388086080 214996 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔⠉⠢⠔... < 1388086174 415564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'BRAILLE PATTERN DOTS-34' 'BRAILLE PATTERN DOTS-16' < 1388086176 181945 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⠌⠡ < 1388086273 683919 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :⡗⡇⣟⡁⣇⡀⣇⡀⣏⡇⢘ < 1388086287 284641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (⠌)S((⠌)(⠡))(~:^:S*a~^~*a*~:^):^ < 1388086287 490830 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :⠌⠡⠡⠌⠡⠌⠌⠡⠡⠌⠌⠡⠌⠡⠡⠌⠡⠌⠌⠡⠌⠡⠡⠌⠌⠡⠡⠌⠡⠌⠌⠡⠡⠌⠌⠡⠌⠡⠡⠌⠌⠡⠡⠌⠡⠌⠌⠡⠌⠡⠡⠌⠡⠌⠌⠡⠡⠌⠌⠡⠌⠡⠡⠌⠡⠌⠌⠡⠌⠡⠡⠌⠌⠡⠡⠌⠡⠌⠌⠡⠌⠡⠡⠌⠡⠌⠌⠡⠡⠌⠌⠡⠌⠡⠡⠌⠌⠡⠡⠌⠡⠌⠌⠡⠡⠌⠌⠡ ...too much output! < 1388086295 227828 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :much output, very braille < 1388086312 845794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the moose-thor sequence? < 1388086315 151319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. not < 1388086330 445665 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION carves an aerodynamic dog in a maple branch, then lobs it towards kmc's head
< 1388086337 643644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: geas < 1388086385 840385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that doesn't not have the expected pronunciation < 1388086397 508207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geese < 1388086408 751433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, not like that < 1388086422 479145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ɡɛʃ] < 1388086432 182594 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guèche? < 1388086451 509998 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gesh? < 1388086489 247721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except they spell it geas. people like that should go to gaol. < 1388086498 748729 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaol is in hexham right? < 1388086502 101924 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1388086507 239885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaol is a place where nothing ever happens < 1388086563 818553 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK's goegraphy is weird. < 1388086632 924667 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone got any fun, easy recipes for me to cook tomorrow/ < 1388086699 683656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i note your esopage doesn't mention that you cannot directly put negative numbers in the program. < 1388086712 209136 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://youtu.be/CeZlih4DDNg < 1388086714 523366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+fueue < 1388086834 754288 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388086849 182678 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jambalaya. I make mine with ham. < 1388086859 420782 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthellorasiir. < 1388086884 880337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: argh XD < 1388086963 589177 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I can't resolve what your “argh” is pointing to. < 1388086982 266925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something clearly satanic < 1388087112 134487 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made it a few weeks ago. it was very good! (the Powers of the Ancients were properly channeled into the Glorious Pad Thai!) < 1388087534 828083 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388087689 336867 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388087695 822632 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388087730 46740 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thellortu. < 1388087733 694804 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello ais523 < 1388087736 101974 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, ais523! < 1388087741 637485 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1388087779 516826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1388087802 197614 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you realise my esopage has been online for months, I've just moved it? < 1388087894 947974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yes, so i just took a look < 1388087957 783479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523110 < 1388088011 634562 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/ello < 1388088012 973685 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env node \ // Generated by CoffeeScript 1.6.2 \ (function() { \ var consonant_then_o, ell_manglable, ends_with_consonant, ends_with_consonant_then_vowel, name, starts_with_o; \ \ name = process.argv[2]; \ \ if (!(name != null ? name.length : void 0)) { \ console.log('Usage: ello '); \ process.exit(); \ } \ \ < 1388088030 161737 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fungot. who coffeed that? < 1388088030 383614 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://developer.apple.com/ documentation/ fnord < 1388088049 905279 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it's now an apple product? oh the humanity... < 1388088050 122300 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: because i was lifting a tileset from it. in fact i am not < 1388088078 878402 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh. careful with lifting tiles from cupertino. you could receive a C&A, and that would be terrible. < 1388088079 272719 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yet another casualty in the drug war < 1388088093 445065 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\&A/\&D/ < 1388088124 490009 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I know. as the proverb goes, you can't break eggs without inventing the Universal Pie from scratch first. < 1388088124 695723 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's the name of godel against my original statment on the matter < 1388088145 100803 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I trust gödel more than you. < 1388088611 975404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I trust fungot a lot more. < 1388088612 220109 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: s/ thunk/ procedure/. about that...? < 1388088640 845537 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think fungot is a spy. < 1388088641 140242 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so the evaluator creates these two reactions, 1 a, 2 bits for space reasons" < 1388088643 780804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Sure, whatever. < 1388088643 985578 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is a primitive is: ( define foo car) < 1388088744 504277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gödel only trusted those who didn't trust themselves. r.i.p. gödel. < 1388088856 170677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Are you sure you're not secretly written in Scheme? < 1388088856 518887 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's the part i'm working on a sound library for games as well; the fnord are down because they can't allow downloads easily i can run < 1388088863 413554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only trust people who don't trust oerjan < 1388088875 757487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That must be a p. small set of people. < 1388088925 565504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a wise policy. < 1388088953 153621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people who trust me are such fools. < 1388088979 677555 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't know about that < 1388088981 970471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i trust you < 1388089011 289139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see no contradictions yet. < 1388089198 443918 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is my standard unit of trustiness. < 1388089268 654298 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I trust fungot at 500 mSø. < 1388089268 860396 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think that is the same word as " husband" blah blah blah)) < 1388089339 568196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you know what the hebrew word for " husband" is < 1388089339 774248 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that much i could figure out the commands, < 1388089407 418376 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is that like trying to open the doors of Moria? “מדבר בעל ולהיכנס.” < 1388089432 85561 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hm. some directionality was lost in transcribing...) < 1388089467 524249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1388089894 957271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :buzz buzz < 1388089911 725858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Well, you can't do computation without entropy increase <-- *cough* only if you delete information. what do you think the point of using reversible computing is? < 1388090080 40752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I'm not sure why you would want to write a hello world program in Agda. < 1388090099 339729 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, shut up I just want it to stop shouting at me when I try to compile < 1388090135 988732 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: We can't actually reach true reversibility though < 1388090138 364238 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you trying to compile and how? < 1388090146 13859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait will follow instructions < 1388090215 877963 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1388090231 698850 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hezzo38. < 1388090235 631027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: maybe not. also, trying to put symbolic links in HackEgo is folly hth < 1388090401 159700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :first, because you can never remember how ln is _supposed_ to work, secondly because i don't think symbolic links work with the hg repository. < 1388090423 275054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What about the old wisdom/ngevd? < 1388090436 125958 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So cp is the only option? < 1388090447 219345 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that won't update with changes < 1388090449 832049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't quite remember. < 1388090469 562506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? perpetuum mobile < 1388090471 255300 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perpetuum mobile? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1388090478 589034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? perpetual motion machine < 1388090480 412121 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perpetual motion machines came with FreeFull's phone. They were hallucinated by Slereah's lack of entropy. < 1388090513 679909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s 'perpetual motion machine' wisdom/'perpetuum mobile' < 1388090514 994202 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: accessing `wisdom/perpetuum mobile': Not a directory < 1388090524 212391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? perpetuum mobile < 1388090525 931332 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perpetuum mobile? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1388090548 34126 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it gives that weird Not a directory error < 1388090576 945763 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if you give it the full path? < 1388090589 428883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls -l wisdom/perp* < 1388090597 172947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/perp* < 1388090599 7127 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 107 Dec 26 18:30 wisdom/perpetual motion machine \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 31 Dec 26 18:31 wisdom/perpetuum mobile -> wisdom/perpetual motion machine < 1388090610 255794 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that link is wrong < 1388090625 479695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/perpetuum mobile < 1388090628 913025 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1388090635 508615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s 'perpetual motion machine' wisdom/'perpetuum mobile' < 1388090639 562922 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: creating symbolic link `wisdom/perpetuum mobile': File exists < 1388090646 221627 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You didn't remove it correctly < 1388090654 322118 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The error changed somehow < 1388090660 989379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/perp* < 1388090661 195693 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the joy of symbolic links :D < 1388090662 908052 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 107 Dec 26 18:30 wisdom/perpetual motion machine \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 24 Dec 26 20:43 wisdom/perpetuum mobile -> perpetual motion machine < 1388090668 774717 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION munches on «sucre à la crème»
< 1388090671 372372 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, it worked < 1388090673 166168 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow < 1388090676 946920 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? perpetuum mobile < 1388090679 131074 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perpetual motion machines came with FreeFull's phone. They were hallucinated by Slereah's lack of entropy. < 1388090711 373646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/*wolfram < 1388090712 946638 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 83 Nov 30 23:51 wisdom/stephen wolfram \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 83 Nov 30 23:26 wisdom/wolfram < 1388090740 391238 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copies < 1388090744 594099 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? woflram < 1388090746 319528 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :woflram? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1388090747 423703 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wolfram < 1388090749 368103 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stephen Wolfram is an esolanger with too much money and power. Taneb invented him. < 1388090752 782818 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? stephen wolfram < 1388090754 773801 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stephen Wolfram is an esolanger with too much money and power. Taneb invented him. < 1388090756 965223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb invents too much < 1388090760 933951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he hates me :'( < 1388090766 747553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo test >test < 1388090770 328888 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1388090773 481946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? perpetuum mobile < 1388090775 429002 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perpetual motion machines came with FreeFull's phone. They were hallucinated by Slereah's lack of entropy. < 1388090782 73212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's still working < 1388090800 73796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have this vague hunch that the links sometimes just stop working again. < 1388090812 329412 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1388090814 430706 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, and Go. < 1388090828 533984 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I was the first to call them “tanebventions”... < 1388090834 535295 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlogs tanebvention < 1388090835 814825 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastlogs: not found < 1388090840 119836 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog tanebvention < 1388090871 137125 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1388090913 113408 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog tanebvention < 1388090933 720258 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.9996 < 1388090938 773568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is invention transitive < 1388090938 978235 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is weird < 1388090941 353570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pastlog should have worked < 1388090943 530905 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/e/e < 1388090945 333190 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/e/e < 1388090948 165321 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/e/e < 1388090949 765417 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 10 Oct 30 15:01 wisdom/e/e -> wisdom/e/e < 1388090978 212141 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: as in, if I invent you, and you invent Taneb, that implies I invented Taneb? < 1388090988 436232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance. < 1388091023 656068 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, therefore you invented Stephen Wolfram < 1388091045 3275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't he invent maths < 1388091057 670914 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -rf wisdom/e < 1388091061 631267 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1388091067 574879 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -iR taneb wisdom/ | wc -l < 1388091071 190732 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 < 1388091086 310204 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`people whom taneb is not < 1388091087 503942 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: people: not found < 1388091090 750229 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people whom taneb is not < 1388091092 614383 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :people whom taneb is not? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1388091095 686466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/e < 1388091096 56886 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people who taneb is not < 1388091096 924331 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/e: No such file or directory < 1388091097 522569 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond < 1388091114 932024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mysteriously, fungot is not on the list < 1388091115 406379 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's all hw stuff is too much work and can be fnord < 1388091116 42908 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: a shame, really. < 1388091141 674349 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: for Taneb to have invented fungot, there must be an isomorphism between him and fizzie. < 1388091142 92187 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: glass/, linguine/ i had to remove all the text to include some content. < 1388091170 870268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the biextensional collapse of Taneb < 1388091233 182983 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck biextensional collapse < 1388091252 963603 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388091269 321542 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388091293 85603 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck biextensional collapse < 1388091293 338529 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1388091314 421675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a thing you can do to chu spaces < 1388091317 961520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sort of like a skeleton < 1388091329 599342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :except in both dimensions < 1388091334 566678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the same time < 1388091434 201420 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine eyes glazeth over thine bidimensional skeleton. < 1388091459 719002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :your skeleton is bidimensional < 1388091480 978742 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd explain a lot of things. < 1388091516 270780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: by the way, "glazeth" is singular < 1388091522 505123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "glazes" < 1388091528 172407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "eyes" is plural < 1388091532 755186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you just want the word "glaze" < 1388091533 857849 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :glazethen. < 1388091540 539025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck glaze < 1388091541 124166 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :glaze definition: to furnish or fit with glass. < 1388091545 700666 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog eyes < 1388091556 956166 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.10027 < 1388091586 405593 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog eyes.*over < 1388091604 548058 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.6495 < 1388091630 189581 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :“normally distributed glazed eyes served over bouchées of surreal bread rolls.” < 1388091634 485123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ☝ you too ☝ < 1388091673 846527 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388091755 30146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's boily with his r'lyehan fusion cuisine again. i guess it balances out the vegan black metal somehow. < 1388091797 388228 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I need my proteins somehow. < 1388091825 915030 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388091830 912352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388091836 922761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What me what. < 1388091866 10834 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ☝ < 1388091867 495466 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+261D WHITE UP POINTING INDEX] < 1388091870 691303 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1388091876 400967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINGER < 1388091900 82304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it clearly specifies an index not a middle finger hth < 1388091903 260337 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do hardware compilers have to analyze state machines? Maybe in such case I should add a state machine command if it would be really helpful for this purpose? < 1388091906 91902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll give you the FINGER. < 1388091910 552122 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7/8 INCH < 1388091951 16947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1388091956 1048 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: because i was pointing above < 1388091976 591132 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was in the above that I was supposed to pay attention to, though? < 1388091981 761058 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388091987 711872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Eyes are plural, so they "glaze" over. < 1388091991 123936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not "glazeth". < 1388092007 557146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. That is good to know. < 1388092024 351365 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: they don't /have/ to, they just have ways to analyze fsms for optimization < 1388092034 835449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn glaze < 1388092035 922842 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "glaze" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1388092036 128952 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :glaze < 1388092036 129114 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: any of various thin shiny (savory or sweet) coatings < 1388092036 129211 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : applied to foods < 1388092036 129303 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: a glossy finish on a fabric < 1388092036 474246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is in response to < 1388092037 302508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-03-31.txt:20:40:25: I just do strict+warnings on top of every script, since I can't read the "use diagnostics;" error messages; they are so verbose, my eyes glazeth over. < 1388092037 921321 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[10 @more lines] < 1388092040 740109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(MY EYES ARE SAVORY) < 1388092078 884340 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Ah, OK, but do you know how such a thing is used? I think you have said you wanted to enter state machines for this purpose? < 1388092126 291429 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh! would you mind providing me with that delicious-sounding Finnish delicacy? I'm always on the prowl to try out new ingredients :D < 1388092141 688129 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I'm using them. < 1388092142 919169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn savory < 1388092144 263475 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "savory" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1388092144 468950 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :savory < 1388092144 469107 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: morally wholesome or acceptable; "a past that was < 1388092144 469201 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : scarcely savory" [syn: {savory}, {savoury}] [ant: < 1388092144 469295 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : {offensive}, {unsavory}, {unsavoury}] < 1388092146 265770 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[12 @more lines] < 1388092157 953784 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i can't say i know the particulars of synthesis, no :( < 1388092220 549897 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you intend to enter them for this purpose, though, at least? < 1388092223 766186 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can imagine specific algorithms for assigning state codes or whatever < 1388092263 899540 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case you can program the state machine directly if it is applicable to the program < 1388092923 933466 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-66.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388093035 3919 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-50-135.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388093144 766933 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Quit: OCCULTED CHICKEN < 1388093146 121283 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388093335 281989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hs11.snstatic.fi/webkuva/taysi/960/1305764920260?ts=353 some people take this "gingerbread house" thing a bit further than others. < 1388093343 113079 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's the central railway station of Helsinki.) < 1388093394 696243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, I mean, yes, it's only a model.) < 1388093426 467813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure i saw a picture in the newspaper recently of one that was hut-sized. < 1388093541 201602 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the new world record. < 1388093578 525474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For the largest gingerbread house in terms of volume -- 39202 cubic feet.) < 1388093590 677184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what we need is to get dubai involved somehow. < 1388093708 773116 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388093760 418569 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1388093989 175789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: hm are you the same b_jonas as on the iwc forum? < 1388094112 698147 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you mean irregularwebcomics, then yes < 1388094128 365442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1388094130 297231 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm the majority of b_jonas-es from the web actually) < 1388094132 620355 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I hope the green bits aren't mint < 1388094166 506109 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now I'll have to wonder what bit of stupidity you found) < 1388094175 982422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: They're just sugar with green/black food dye. < 1388094183 131636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: oh it was something a-mazing hth < 1388094208 585095 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1388094256 181684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION might point out he isn't actually registered on the forum, he's just lurked there for years. (hi Taneb!)
< 1388094271 842174 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or I think something having to do with oxidized copper in real life.) < 1388095292 789884 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388095320 768566 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388095540 930186 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Actually, it's copper carbonate that's green < 1388095563 843804 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes, copper chloride < 1388095583 866900 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://hs11.snstatic.fi/webkuva/taysi/960/1305764920260?ts=353 some people take this "gingerbread house" thing a bit further than others. <-- that is amazing < 1388095596 504987 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sulfide and sulfate too < 1388095596 752355 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I've sort of wandered away from the forum :( < 1388095603 536363 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : (For the largest gingerbread house in terms of volume -- 39202 cubic feet.) <-- got a picture? < 1388095734 777514 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388095822 952481 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388095850 395827 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388095947 599530 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1388096210 447289 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388096281 942726 :tromp___!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388096359 762150 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388096463 971584 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388096474 726870 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Guinness-certifies-world-s-largest-gingerbread-5028028.php is what I saw. < 1388096606 37163 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388096725 900274 :tromp___!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388097007 198006 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember a logic puzzle with 5 cats that want to get outside but different combinations of them fight, and you have to find a way to get all of them outside without a fight < 1388097056 205213 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is MEOW >:3 < 1388097127 724040 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1388097144 495398 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if anyone could remember the puzzle existing, and/or give me a link to it < 1388097260 27516 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's max clique isn't it < 1388097292 434472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like cats < 1388097316 496760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1388098123 99663 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a fun thing I can do with a server < 1388098157 264630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :play tennis < 1388098167 575155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hugs < 1388098189 458453 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: irc, wobsite, stream music anywhere < 1388098193 472543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "server" mean in this context < 1388098207 635957 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan++ < 1388098225 798489 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it's a shell server running I think Arch < 1388098233 978081 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is the server the ball or the racket < 1388098234 456619 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so not a program like a web server < 1388098249 659073 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, it's the player < 1388098265 260224 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: shhh. that's not helping me woefully misunderstand his terrible pun < 1388098265 862571 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, no < 1388098328 730045 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388098360 600737 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the moment it's hosting my esolangs page and I almost played nethack on it < 1388098373 48373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :play nethack on nethack.alt.org < 1388098386 122367 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could download XML dumps of the wiki < 1388098502 773268 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1388098503 14206 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :run a tor bridge node < 1388098726 763470 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388099032 668691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Run a tor hidden service selling all kinds of salacious stuffs for bitcoins. < 1388099090 629978 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: like doge road? :P < 1388099107 129482 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except that's for dogecoin, but same idea) < 1388099182 981312 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any kind of road. < 1388099203 595893 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All roads lead to Rome < 1388099251 603510 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-50-135.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just called it 'doge road'? that's so boring. < 1388099266 116053 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would you call it < 1388099278 765414 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"such paving" < 1388099281 444360 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-50-135.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, i'm sure i could find a historical road associated with dogs < 1388099284 210750 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Doge Road is coming very TOR such good prices much profit wow many weed" yes that is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about. < 1388099393 426600 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:1 that guy gets arrested almost immediately. or its a scam. < 1388099425 529942 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-50-135.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like to think nobody will give a shit, as is right and proper < 1388099501 777778 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, I didn't really know that the way to buy dogecoins (and other such) tend to be in bitcoins. < 1388099679 260363 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1388099686 618470 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can get doge for free right now < 1388099689 765397 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :people just give it away < 1388099887 22564 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps someone should design some sort of metacoin that's automatically changed to the next big cryptocurrency, so that people don't need to keep track. < 1388099931 770960 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they call those mutual funds or something like that. < 1388100062 576655 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-50-135.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :buggre all this for a larke coin < 1388100104 367171 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokok < 1388100122 962911 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokoins are backed by oklopol. < 1388100173 973142 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388100274 388626 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-50-135.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone messes with okokoins, they get the ol one two! (gestures to scrawny mathematician arms) that's the Oklopol Guarantee (TM) (jingle) < 1388101166 765170 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388101755 261987 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388101961 35996 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388103834 241448 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1388103990 45821 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388104750 31291 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388105157 464004 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388105188 750037 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388105222 775937 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388105555 754362 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388106055 975287 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-50-135.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile in r/bitcoin http://mibpaste.com/uXYrCS < 1388106122 566386 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://superuser.com/questions/693440/why-does-an-exe-file-not-appear-as-ones-and-zeros-in-a-text-editor-such-as-notep < 1388106144 397612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the top answer's going to be sensible, isn't it < 1388106179 634636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1388106226 759410 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo too sensible < 1388106242 200604 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These answers are very long. / The simple answer is: Notepad tries to see the 0s and 1s as text, which is its job. It doesn't realize they are not text and just displays what it can, which is a big jumble of letters that make no sense. < 1388106252 735318 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-50-135.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice painting. < 1388106254 392735 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ that's probably enough < 1388106266 64434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1s, 0s, and whitespace < 1388106274 106926 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of all it did not need an arthur dove painting to bring the point across < 1388106290 627347 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-50-135.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it did < 1388106296 437489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping there'd be a plausible-looking answer that's completely wrong near the top < 1388106306 213264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's superuser, not yahoo! answers < 1388106315 527426 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway there is some nonexciting esolanging happening http://esolangs.org/wiki/Gs2#Commands "wip" < 1388106322 641465 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw that in recent changes < 1388106334 546227 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the from/to columns are uh halfway between forth stack diagram things and type signatures < 1388106341 910966 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mushroomobserver.org/image/show_image/393975?_js=on&_new=true&obs=156302&q=1hq7D weird-ass mutant mushroom, via douglass_ < 1388106347 660875 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should've maybe figured out which one i wanna use < 1388106369 102051 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-50-135.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nice fronds babe < 1388106373 498043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1388106374 791316 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-50-135.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell are those < 1388106584 533432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time i tried to download a .exe file from some strange server but instead of 0s and 1s it had 0s and 2s < 1388106602 122595 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost broke my computer. F- would not download again < 1388106607 914498 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-50-135.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :futurama joke < 1388106615 735622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1388106631 991069 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-50-135.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :futumura joke?? < 1388106642 28330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where < 1388106666 766163 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388106691 918172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my file had p's and q's < 1388106693 608818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tech.karbassi.com/2008/01/15/futurama-benders-big-score-binary-joke/ ?? < 1388106702 394988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Now, if you take the whole thing by itself, it’s not a 16-bit code, but 32-bit. I believe IBM made a few super computers that handle 32-bit binary." < 1388106707 528966 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :super < 1388106776 758361 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388107022 571132 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I like sentences like "I believe IBM made a few super computers that handle 32-bit binary." because they're true, and yet make the speaker sound horrifically uninformed < 1388107300 921514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Knyte < 1388108404 511807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Do you have a collection of them? < 1388108413 238178 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1388108940 244989 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know about iNES mapper 90? It has many strange things that don't make sense, such as: bit reversed mode for PRG bank numbers, the ability to change $6000-$7FFF between open bus and ROM (not RAM), two different ways to set nametable mirroring (which one is used is both software-controlled and controlled by a jumper), IRQ "funky mode", ability to set direction of IRQ counter. < 1388108959 874497 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-50-135.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me more about the funk. < 1388108999 783177 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388109015 756424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the jumper user-accessible on the cart? < 1388109020 29064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what is nametable mirroring? < 1388109135 662704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nametable mirroring in the Famicom is used to determine how the CIRAM is mirrored, which changes the arrangement of the four background screens; for example, if the right screen and left screen are the same, or if the top screen and bottom screen are the same instead. However there are more complicated kinds two, these are just the two simple kinds of nametable mirroring. < 1388109173 943198 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if the jumper is user-accessible. I also don't know how the "funky mode" works. < 1388109873 474218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode Ɛ < 1388109875 425595 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0190 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER OPEN E] < 1388110467 984048 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-50-135.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388110565 458650 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388110578 854801 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-90-94.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388111869 777903 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388113675 809882 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1388114139 392662 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388115276 356979 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1388115602 622544 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am in progress typing of Dungeons&Dragons game. I did play the game yesterday, in fact. But now there is a problem, but I do have a plan. < 1388117494 602098 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that... < 1388117514 922014 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about that? < 1388117526 898864 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to parse the first sentence < 1388118294 309472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 Teaches Typing < 1388118504 476253 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388118563 717704 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388119405 920599 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388119681 141093 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1388119691 296838 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1388119804 898886 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388119840 283006 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388119892 205889 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1388120915 375942 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( at unmarked cabs < 1388120938 60749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike chess, planning ahead is much more difficult because of unknown information, but is just as important! < 1388120967 122297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, like in correspondence chess, there is enough time between sessions to think of it. < 1388120970 451449 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how many non-attacking bishops can you place on a chessboard? < 1388121017 665162 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION assumes the answer is greater than -1
< 1388121029 305954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Do you mean like the queen puzzle, but only with diagonal moves? < 1388121040 152579 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1388121047 253437 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1388121074 781763 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388121102 98182 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make the split between the dark squares and light squares, so I would think the answer would be some even number. < 1388121127 342594 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an even number :D < 1388121149 403045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what about unmarked cabs < 1388121150 711188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I got that much correct! < 1388121156 858525 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you can fill an entire rank or file safely, so it's more than 8! < 1388121164 60637 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no it's not < 1388121168 925104 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are only 64 squares on a chessborad < 1388121169 113220 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in fact, that's a good path to a solution) < 1388121171 599030 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chessboard < 1388121173 264306 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: cab company I was unfamiliar with sent a cab that was not obviously a cab < 1388121175 239119 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 64 <<<<<< 8! < 1388121184 15045 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Made me nervous so called company to check that it was in fact my cab < 1388121194 604929 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: hmm good point. < 1388121207 706718 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you can fill an entire rank or file safely, so it's more than 8!/7! < 1388121235 542978 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, unrelated to it being unmarked, the driver had me input the address into the GPS. If I were tech-illiterate, that would have really sucked < 1388121266 565783 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I realized that too, although I just instead to consider only the dark squares, and then the same solution can be mirrored for white-colored squares. < 1388121267 204844 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: is it 14? < 1388121268 923110 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what a shit taxi company < 1388121287 648865 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not helpful: Driver not speaking English, so GPS was also in another language < 1388121288 826004 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: good jerb < 1388121293 878932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: was it numbered 1729 < 1388121313 497923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that's a bad omen < 1388121331 455407 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: don't ask me to prove it, but i can see why it's intuitively optimal < 1388121352 944050 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quithe proof is easy < 1388121360 958574 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*quintopia: the < 1388121395 394341 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :each color has 7 diagonals parallel to its main diagonal, so max 7 of each color < 1388121397 114478 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: is it? not every bishop attacks the same number of squares < 1388121401 539327 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, ended up waiting over an hour for a bus because the bus I wanted was 10 minutes early < 1388121408 759614 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I hate that < 1388121418 660412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the bus was on time and the world was 10 minutes late < 1388121441 993568 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like trains. Trains don't show up so early you miss them < 1388121459 631064 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Train stations also have nice billboards indicating when the train is late < 1388121488 578638 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :trains might show up early in rare circumstances. But they don't leave early < 1388121502 954561 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike busses, have of whom don't know what a timepoint is < 1388121511 123961 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(their drivers don't know either) < 1388121512 278425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*storms into cab with knife* drive this train to cuba! < 1388121520 350883 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ah, so it does. i didn't know off the top of my head the number of diagonals of one color in one direction < 1388121569 477830 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked < 1388121574 618200 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheating, I know < 1388121584 788971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://instagram.com/p/gWkKveSLwH/ < 1388121613 485042 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowhen in particular too < 1388121922 759901 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388122486 980013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://jerkcity.com/_jerkcity5444.html < 1388122589 348519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Why does the filename start with an underscore? < 1388122603 303550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a fine question < 1388122607 324656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :compare & contrast with http://jerkcity.com/jerkcity5444.html < 1388122616 633517 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-90-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the web, it's a /resource/, not a file < 1388122645 505505 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that's what it means! < 1388123204 970464 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/9skH9Qc.png < 1388123217 620731 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: pretty sure Bike was making a sarcastic comment about web development < 1388123249 995044 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-90-94.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ain't that the truth < 1388123306 314194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can you figure out why i was searching for Oryza ruderalis? < 1388123683 758287 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388124033 200838 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388124033 891312 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388124262 295395 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388124569 259870 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1388126411 763041 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388126542 300295 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 47 < 1388126546 385397 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 47: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1388126677 942617 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There it is! < 1388126798 242806 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did think of the plan what to do next, although I think I will require someone to enchant an object with a spell to recall it to someone's hand if they speak the command word. < 1388126853 957757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It doesn't matter what the object is, as long as it can support things sitting on top.) < 1388126901 776866 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did think of other ways not involving magical things, but they either involve combination locks, which they don't have, or otherwise will be too slow. < 1388128324 948495 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388128351 5452 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388128701 961486 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388128757 878007 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388129752 393119 :Bike_!~Glossina@216-161-90-94.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388129880 841660 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1388130162 291969 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-90-94.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388130162 731224 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388130163 330891 :iamcal!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cmwfqsmhyzgpwtbz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388130360 22825 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388130573 390022 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1388130580 653218 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388131015 843894 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388131538 779192 :iamcal!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cmwfqsmhyzgpwtbz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388132611 446648 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1388132828 307452 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388133015 843773 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388133500 796400 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388133779 389123 :forzartus!~forzartus@83.145.93.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388133846 869199 :forzartus!~forzartus@83.145.93.98 PART :#esoteric < 1388135774 92376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diameter#Diameter_symbol literally has detailed instructions on which keys to press in order to enter the wrong codepoint < 1388136115 94707 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1388136392 262081 :w00tles!~textual@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388136415 936928 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388136422 475450 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1388136465 493920 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388136689 773235 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388136905 755824 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388136967 123616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1388137366 293092 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-110.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1388137404 479759 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-110.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1388137404 679018 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1388137532 761407 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388137734 986931 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: On linux, altgr + o will give you ø, which is the letter rather than the diameter symbol < 1388137906 206799 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388137944 265168 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Codepoints don't really exist, only glyphs. (Some of the emoji glyphs are almost in the flesh.) < 1388139654 364011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : zzo38: how many non-attacking bishops can you place on a chessboard? <-- obvious upper bound, check. simple way of achieving it, check. < 1388139658 424422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mate) < 1388139683 302418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, once you've split white and black squares. < 1388139822 997234 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, but your reply is a bit stale. < 1388139906 339620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i had to reply before getting to the spoilers, OBVIOYSLY < 1388139930 108115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obvious to boily) < 1388141600 893860 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388141713 861447 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: huh? that doesn't have an obvious upper bound < 1388141721 761019 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not a sharp one at least < 1388141728 572002 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the upper bound is really non-obvious < 1388141748 557882 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lower bound is, mind you < 1388141748 761474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not, once you count the diagonals < 1388141775 405443 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unlike the rook and queen versions, which do have obvious sharp upper bounds) < 1388141841 615515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : each color has 7 diagonals parallel to its main diagonal, so max 7 of each color < 1388141858 394820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought of the same thing before reading it < 1388141927 647681 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends on the size of the chessboard < 1388141947 843937 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me look up a standard sized one < 1388141965 732770 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, standard is 8*8 < 1388142004 983987 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can place at least 14 non-attacking bishops < 1388142034 221710 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if you can place more < 1388142047 164960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you can't < 1388142124 224268 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can fill up one side and then almost fill up the opposite side except for the corners < 1388142144 960948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can place 14 such that there is precisely one on each downwards white diagonal and one on each upwards black diagonal. < 1388142184 734357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. in the way you said (which is also the way i found) < 1388142264 611275 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically, you could just completely fill the chessboard with white bishops < 1388142278 226434 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since they are the same colour, they won't attack each other < 1388142307 705380 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's what was meant though < 1388142346 523815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say < 1388142395 709141 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming all bishops can attach each other, 14 < 1388142428 562506 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388142549 920637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bishops are scheming bastards < 1388142563 781993 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :attack < 1388142607 922681 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388142637 134997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps bishops of the same color _can_ attack each other, and that's why they're safely kept on different colors. < 1388142647 350725 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1388142647 551715 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1388142695 58784 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn34-243.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388142703 343141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all makes sense now. < 1388142870 745530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i've managed my first negative karma reddit comment. or alternatively, somehow managed to avoid any before now. < 1388142969 666288 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you link to it? < 1388142994 679490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i somehow feel that would be vote cheating :P < 1388143001 44624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's only at -1 though) < 1388143116 146170 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want to see what it is < 1388143165 395197 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it oerjan?? < 1388143184 762283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/1tpxxk/my_math_teacher_posted_this_i_need_your_help_guys/ceaenhx?context=3 < 1388143252 563151 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Hmm, standard is 8*8" you don't know chess? < 1388143272 431878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? freefull < 1388143276 636787 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull is either full of freedom or free of fulldom, we are not sure. < 1388143287 332804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no room for chess < 1388143312 142443 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1388143314 184459 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand < 1388143380 106684 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I can think of cases where the correct answer wouldn't be 0%, but the case on the board isn't one of those < 1388143417 961695 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually know where the karma thingie is shown < 1388143421 196239 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nor what it is) < 1388143577 477323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: just after the nickname < 1388143588 163378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also you bastards upvoted it :P) < 1388143651 217169 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1388143898 538518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose the ui doesn't use the term karma anywhere. < 1388143938 449624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it's (mostly) translated to norwegian so i wouldn't really know. < 1388143972 894545 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you guys think of the Lamdu programmming language thing that was on reddit the other day < 1388144025 145018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got this "not real haskell" reaction < 1388144053 992671 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, a lot of things aren't real haskell < 1388144125 156592 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I know what you mean < 1388144254 617668 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am pondering making my caps lock into greek shift < 1388144276 441179 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, that sounds like a good idea < 1388144288 987054 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then shift+capslock can be capslock < 1388144300 168660 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or cyrillic < 1388144307 596894 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe make capslock be shiftlock, and then shift+capslock be greek shift < 1388144326 878530 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I really want to write cyrillic I'll switch keyboard layouts < 1388144631 342982 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I just heard thunder < 1388144677 978518 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want that Mandelbrot Blanket :-) < 1388145470 168245 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want shift+capslock to be capital greek letters surely < 1388145867 975869 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388146897 982951 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388148267 275822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1388148429 903781 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388148930 740104 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388149204 864762 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1388149479 74374 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388149578 278288 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: If I want capitals I'll use shift when pressing the key < 1388149588 736782 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :greek shift is a toggle I think < 1388149601 533552 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's greek lock < 1388149604 550516 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd have to look it up < 1388149931 937872 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, there is a new Mill Achitecture lecture video < 1388150333 468556 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388150369 999608 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388151026 476316 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388151176 977590 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388151212 241699 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388151573 947266 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388151583 895416 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388151649 771783 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388152184 742474 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388152221 770593 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388152296 58490 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this kind of shogi variant? http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MSunknownoffpiec < 1388152393 157203 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good zzorning38. I never variated my shōgi yet. < 1388152423 912309 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Client Quit < 1388152523 101724 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388152529 374494 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388152541 84708 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388152638 488144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1388152669 128643 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, let's see if I barged in an ongoing conversation by correctly checking the logs... < 1388153139 330614 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388153246 932525 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388153271 378571 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hily < 1388153401 51644 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hintopia! < 1388153414 17929 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1388153423 637116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoity-boily. < 1388153431 224603 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... hoity-boily??? < 1388153473 594205 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon matizzie. < 1388153497 286289 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like hoity-toity, but boilier. < 1388153498 958039 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried Bon Martin on a south african guy named...yeah < 1388153503 229717 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didn't get it < 1388153640 816794 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: tmyk... < 1388153656 345844 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 'tis a sad world where Martinses can't be bon martined... < 1388153852 307980 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said that bon means sight in bantu languages, but can also be used as a greeting < 1388153860 851118 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388154183 874048 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388154314 677508 :yours_truly!~yours@74.114.76.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388154331 6282 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388154357 984633 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388154391 598509 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome yours_truly < 1388154394 324950 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06yours_truly: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04irc.dal.net.) < 1388155075 380074 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388155391 910320 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388155541 778445 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388155858 486530 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388155895 953990 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388157038 712957 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388157625 338552 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Guinness-certifies-world-s-largest-gingerbread-5028028.php is what I saw. <-- impressive, but not pure gingerbread... < 1388157635 423006 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel using wood is cheating < 1388157978 269322 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think so too. < 1388158471 40878 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388158535 151964 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I wonder what the largest "real" gingerbread house actually is < 1388158579 929138 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388158663 775666 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well this is interesting, turning on compositing in the window manager setting improved window moving performance a lot < 1388158676 477148 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, now resizing windows lags terribly < 1388158678 132927 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1388158700 348125 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compositing still exists? < 1388158707 467655 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, guess so? < 1388158713 229251 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opoosed to what? < 1388158728 541212 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using MATE btw, so this is a metacity fork < 1388158734 686000 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to I thought it was a fad, and people got tired of all the wobbly windowing stuff. < 1388158768 937749 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, yeah, I wish I could turn off the drop shadows... < 1388158786 781415 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't find a setting for it < 1388158806 787301 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :SteamOS has a xcompmgr-based compositor, or so I've heard. < 1388158812 565287 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1388158943 653449 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gunnerkrigg Court is getting creepy < 1388158951 745129 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a web comic right? < 1388158962 853232 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1388159002 345471 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, which custom android firmware to use... I would like to update from my old version of PAC (4.1.2) to something 4.3-based or such. Or at least 4.2. < 1388159055 154370 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :omnirom? < 1388159170 583794 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a new PAC? < 1388159199 511656 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see you're a PAC man. < 1388159215 791910 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, quite, the full name of the rom is actually PACman ROM < 1388159227 775234 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that was not as funny as you thought :P < 1388159231 379945 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1388159251 400273 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it is so called because it is a mix of Paranoid Android, AKOP and CyanogenMod < 1388159254 463969 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus PAC < 1388159261 394599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Does Pac-Man have a driver's license that says "Man, Pac" on it?) < 1388159347 893722 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I could cyanogenise my phone. it isn't supported :( < 1388159393 305657 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god, using a third party custom kernel with the latest PAC doesn't work apparently. Screw that then < 1388159410 678066 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might just stay on 4.1.2 instead... Since everything pretty much works as it is. < 1388159442 530956 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do custom Android systems include a command-shell and the ability to modify the permissions of installed programs (rather than only to view them)? < 1388159476 897607 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, you can do that with xprivacy (an xposed framework module) on pretty much any non-MIUI system < 1388159510 483655 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does MIUI mean? < 1388159530 827524 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC that is the stock motorola GUI framework thingy < 1388159544 930854 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or wait hm, no < 1388159578 927676 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it is the stock GUI that some phone manufacturer added anyway, forgot which one < 1388159592 682010 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Samsung has touchwiz, HTC has Sense. It is along those lines < 1388159686 459904 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, anyway, xposed framework is awesome, it basically allows runtime patching the entire system, by hooking into early startup code and basically loading a module into every dalvik (the android java vm) process. < 1388159821 936798 :Bike_!~Glossina@216-161-90-94.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1388160024 412989 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, what phone is that? < 1388160043 743286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recurring annoyance: when booted to Windows, the two (spinning-disk) Linux drives keep getting woken up, even when set "offline" in disk management. Both when anything "special" is happening (Windows Update is checking for updates, Steam wants to install DirectX for the billionth time) but also more or less randomly a few times every day. < 1388160071 852404 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1388160088 661284 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a bit weird < 1388160105 240392 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and is also spins up the disks when told to shut down or go to sleep. < 1388160110 402142 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch < 1388160115 910070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Then it immediately spins them down again, naturally.) < 1388160128 254799 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, maybe it is checking SMART status wrt the random stuff? < 1388160141 956509 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: HTC One V. < 1388160147 524600 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had smartmontools on linux spin up the windows disk < 1388160151 483675 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, hm okay, no idea < 1388160159 134440 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, I'm compiling QT, and contributing to Climate Change...) < 1388160167 579077 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah < 1388160174 221258 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, gentoo? < 1388160208 970706 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you should totally buy some solar panels to offset your QT compiling < 1388160210 253776 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: nah. stuck with wkhtmltopdf, and it won't output headers and footers if you don't use a custom version of QT. < 1388160230 631528 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is wkhtmltopdf? < 1388160258 912610 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very obscure utility that converts html files over to PDF. it's used by the new reporting engine in OpenERP. < 1388160279 15383 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(imho, a very, very stupid move, marginally better than what they had before.) < 1388160282 337742 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never heard of OpenERP < 1388160287 732108 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not use CUPS to print to PDF... < 1388160293 292480 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :From a browser < 1388160315 313614 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah, woah! stop being logical! we're talking about Enterprise stuff here! < 1388160320 496187 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh okay < 1388160323 848431 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wk" is presumably short for webkit? < 1388160328 616460 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it is. < 1388160330 129078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Oh, I also had the GTK save/open dialog annoyingly spin up the Windows disk in Linux, but now that it's a SSD I don't mind so much. < 1388160347 523897 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Ah, use SSDs for EVERYTHING < 1388160361 925771 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to pay for 2*3 terabytes of SSD, really. < 1388160395 703234 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm I wonder what an 1 TB SSD costs < 1388160413 338210 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy shit < 1388160425 74430 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :53758 for a PCI Express SSD < 1388160439 199182 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :8527 for the cheapest 1 TB SATA SSD < 1388160448 214751 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those in CAD? < 1388160456 340353 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEK, I hope. < 1388160460 968473 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388160489 916217 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEK yes < 1388160511 371136 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 8527 / 6.0819 < 1388160513 965183 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1388160515 410379 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 8527 / 6.0819 < 1388160516 8093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :576.90 EUR (about 5200 SEK) for the cheapest 1TB SATA SSD (Samsung 840 EVO 1 TB 2.5" SATA3 Basic Retail) at the Finnish verkkokauppa.com shop. < 1388160517 398146 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1402.0289712096549 < 1388160541 882003 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm the SSD in my work computer (Intel 520, 240 GB) costs 2075 < 1388160569 585385 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :But we are upgrading to Intel 520 with 480 GB storage soon, which cost 3683 < 1388160586 930569 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388160590 881841 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen some random guides on how to really disable a disk in Windows, but they all involved all kinds of nasty "uninstall drivers" kind of nonsense, and the one that seemed marginally less invasive didn't do anything. < 1388160654 192005 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only find PCI Express SSDs above 2 TB < 1388160657 914006 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :no SATA onezsx < 1388160660 480038 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ones* < 1388160698 633279 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a lot of the stuff are for people who actually want to keep their drive usable from Windows; I just want those completely turned off. < 1388160720 790751 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you could unplug them? < 1388160751 429431 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would involve opening the computer for every single OS switch. < 1388160769 595698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some kind of a front-panel power switch could work, if someone makes that kind of thing. < 1388160771 160847 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Install a hardware switch then. < 1388160771 366492 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, Toshiba has a 1.6 TB SSD for around 50 000. SATA < 1388160790 662398 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, doubt it for SATA < 1388160795 572993 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :custom drivers? < 1388160805 84650 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could write custom chipset drivers for windows < 1388160814 743611 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That hid those disks < 1388160829 626727 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was something you could do somewhat easily in device management to hide the disks, but then it doesn't ever spin them down either. < 1388160842 85884 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well okay < 1388160917 558009 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out the point of Google Cloud Print... Can't find any < 1388160920 580577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I saw some rather kludgly-looking batch file for a "programmatically spin down, then hide the disk" thing somewhere, though. < 1388161086 656999 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would anyone here be interested in entering a Core War tournament? Also, if the tournament is held in Cambridge either in or near the computer museum, would anyone attend? < 1388161124 225211 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, turning on compositing made full screen flash video work again??? < 1388161204 246900 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Flash. it has the loveliest, weirdestest bugs I ever seen. < 1388161355 891116 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, yes previously it was sluggish when playing full screen < 1388161787 976513 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388161894 995842 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :caradhello. < 1388162510 997309 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388162520 834436 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1388162562 878179 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388163500 370898 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-90-94.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388163620 954782 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-43-147.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388163887 762312 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388164141 750260 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388164177 906345 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-43-147.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388164301 999523 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-165.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388164557 918527 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388164589 40986 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net NICK :tertu < 1388164648 45845 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1388164651 675779 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tertu < 1388164665 287892 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1388164681 272335 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you been working on < 1388164731 785028 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi quintopia < 1388164762 788657 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hows life Taneb < 1388164771 138760 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boring < 1388164792 780333 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not too fond of the 5 days between Christmas and New Year's Eve < 1388164802 901439 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I miss being at university < 1388164814 227251 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been playing Minecraft more than usual lately < 1388164848 406818 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmed anything lately < 1388164856 608485 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not anything interesting < 1388164863 872382 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been trying to learn Agda again < 1388164867 170372 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it hasn't gone well < 1388164899 22169 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you go about learning a new lang < 1388164921 216485 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1388164931 788520 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not very good at learning new things < 1388164970 953783 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been meaning to learn Rust, too < 1388164971 159665 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you've learned things in the past. how? < 1388164998 897797 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, with Haskell, I started by following LYAH while messing with it in GHCi < 1388165035 365446 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once I thought I was getting better, I started posting some code I had written in this channel and letting elliott, oerjan, and shachaf shout at me < 1388165043 741964 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I feel pretty good at Haskell < 1388165052 488571 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having learnt from their criticisms < 1388165087 545553 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess you can't do that with agda, there being no one here versed enough in it to shout at you < 1388165103 135471 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think letting yourself mess around, but letting others help you make your mess neater really helps you to learn < 1388165120 766613 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you want to know agda? < 1388165130 638887 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1388165151 921413 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know what to do with Agda < 1388165170 875546 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good enough reason. < 1388165172 591687 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that might be your problem. if you don't know why you want to do it, you probably won't be very motivated to do it < 1388165183 88652 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I used to maybe prove that disjunction and conjunction formed a semiring < 1388165188 840968 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I don't know how it proved that < 1388165192 888505 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or how I can use that proof < 1388165377 926680 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-165.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388165469 930972 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-244.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388165609 903198 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388165763 54114 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn34-243.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388165975 894305 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-244.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388166091 96443 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388166165 22849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning #esoteric < 1388166189 196020 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime kmc < 1388166189 710286 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for kmc is Fri Dec 27 09:43:09 2013 < 1388166201 112402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm actually 1 hour ahead of there right now < 1388166202 487346 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good fternoon, kmc. < 1388166208 450909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't update the clock on my vps when i travel < 1388166217 249199 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mountain Time? < 1388166223 917216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ja < 1388166246 340396 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesterday went for a drive here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CONM_Independence_monument_2.jpg < 1388166248 951785 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388166284 288159 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, all < 1388166286 380316 :skrillex64!~skrillex6@119-46-191-21.static.asianet.co.th JOIN :#esoteric < 1388166371 926352 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that looks like a nice place. < 1388166469 138700 :skrillex64!~skrillex6@119-46-191-21.static.asianet.co.th PRIVMSG #esoteric :364:::14,15 hey :::3664 < 1388166469 344782 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: suffering from universital cravings? < 1388166479 106137 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome skrillex64 < 1388166481 237958 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09skrillex64: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06irc.dal.net.) < 1388166509 485154 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I'm just suffering right now < 1388166584 368994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yep < 1388166586 308473 :skrillex64!~skrillex6@119-46-191-21.static.asianet.co.th PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1388166620 974311 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am installing Rust 90 miles away < 1388166621 216851 :skrillex64!~skrillex6@119-46-191-21.static.asianet.co.th QUIT : < 1388166654 841323 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This would be easier if I knew how to use Arch < 1388166660 711194 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the technicolor fungot was that... < 1388166661 358259 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: same url as before for new jar up yet?) publically acessible) later i tried clisp ( interpreted) chicken scripts, is there any haskell builtin to test whether one number is within the scope of python, i do < 1388166670 491878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'ºêÒºÒÂ..ä»áÅéǹêÒÒ...' | iconv -t iso8859-1 | iconv -f tis-620 < 1388166672 340374 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​บ๊ายบาย..ไปแล้วน๊าา... < 1388166690 571850 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: and how in fungot did you manage to guess it was tis-620... < 1388166690 936734 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: not at all, since there are 3 syntax for integer literals. the semantics are like scheme, but that's an unfair generalization < 1388166698 748350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: chardet < 1388166705 233862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Goodbye to N๊aa ... .." < 1388166707 289249 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Arch, as in the VCS, or as in the distro? < 1388166712 142521 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The distro < 1388166723 296783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was like "that can't be right" and then saw the .th hostname in the quit msg < 1388166728 987204 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388166736 53802 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would probably be much easier if I knew pacman (the package manager, not the game or the character) < 1388166745 622912 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh hm. I obviously failed my spot check there... < 1388166759 209269 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is .th? < 1388166766 86521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thai land < 1388166771 391806 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaah < 1388166772 976263 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well. pacman -Syu to make your system up-to-date, pacman -S for installing stuff. < 1388166773 687278 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :.hth < 1388166780 896173 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I'm not a sudo-er < 1388166803 288703 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have sudo installed on my machine. I just “su”, then do the Stuff that has to be Done. < 1388166805 294260 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way I could do it locally or something like that < 1388166843 464776 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frankly I'm glad I'm not a sudo-er, I could probably set the machine on fire < 1388166850 95951 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :By accident < 1388166866 455715 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeeh... yes. the answer is most definitely yes, but I don't know how. I suspect a mixture of ABS and pacman is going to be involved. < 1388166877 415370 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should ask in #archlinux, or check the wiki. < 1388166921 490897 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... can't be bothered < 1388166924 712666 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :settings machines on fire is an unusual and memorable experience. I... uhm... welll... I'm now scared of PSUs. < 1388166926 465507 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`from-8bit ºêÒºÒÂ..ä»áÅéǹêÒÒ... < 1388166928 880326 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​บ๊ายบาย..ไปแล้วน๊าา... < 1388166956 633723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`from-8bit ðòå÷åä íåä÷åä < 1388166959 179530 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​נעוקוה םוהקוה < 1388166967 891631 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`from-8bit ? < 1388166970 344752 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? < 1388166974 968078 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit. doesn't work. < 1388166989 886695 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, you know Rust, right? If I show you potential future rust programs in the future would you critique them? < 1388166992 136584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm that was supposed to be ПРЕВЕД МЕДВЕД < 1388166996 865474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: sure! < 1388167026 24908 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: which version of the language & compiler are you using? I recommend sticking with master rather than the point releases, until 1.0 < 1388167046 547197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it is pretty hard to heuristically distinguish national 8-bit codes < 1388167049 393018 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: if you go fetch a package's PKGBUILD, you can redirect the compilation to a local repo. < 1388167062 384196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if chardet uses any language-specific letter frequency data on long enough texts < 1388167066 799985 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, 0.8 I think < 1388167082 264203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`from-8bit should pass through ascii characters < 1388167084 517705 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :should pass through ascii characters < 1388167085 765817 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: also, you could forget everything about packages, and just do “make && make install” to local from source, as in the Olden Days of Unix. < 1388167097 733399 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, that is what I am doing now < 1388167110 841250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`from-8bit büt whát døe§ it dó with űtf-8 < 1388167111 147364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: help what < 1388167113 331141 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconv: illegal input sequence at position 30 \ iconv: illegal input sequence at position 30 \ büt whát dře§ it dó with < 1388167118 906967 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the source seems to be 16MB < 1388167129 530789 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it is downloading sloooowlyyyyy < 1388167138 765161 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388167139 22142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1388167169 323418 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/keegan/proj/servo/servo/build.debug/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/src/compiler/rust/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/stage2/bin/rustc 0.9-pre (67d7be0 2013-10-29 12:02:59 -0700) < 1388167190 643689 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ i don't install the toolchains, just run them out of dirs < 1388167380 782816 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388167622 861690 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388167758 972998 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading Wikipedia about Rust, "Other features from Haskell, such as higher-kinded polymorphism, are not yet supported." < 1388167767 776535 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that planned, or is it not going to happen < 1388167772 127072 :yours_truly!~yours@74.114.76.110 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388167796 426180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that it's "planned" exactly, but if somebody did the work we would be happy to merge it < 1388167818 3481 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1388167864 481033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a feature from haskell? < 1388167882 933063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :first list-comprehensions and now higher-kinded polymorphism! v. innovative. < 1388167897 26734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think right now the core team is focusing on getting lots of smaller stuff fixed for the imminent 1.0 release < 1388167923 898209 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HKP would be a pretty big change and is also backwards-compatible, so it's more likely to happen after 1.0 < 1388168140 265026 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388168587 67012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: note that polymorphism in Rust is implemented by compiling a separate version for each instantiation, which limits some of what can be done < 1388168618 728635 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example I think one couldn't really support higher-rank types, i.e. foralls in function parameter types < 1388168634 206050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo jit < 1388168642 774447 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's haskell do it < 1388168645 496229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you might be able to support types like runST :: (forall s. ST s a) -> a, because s is a phantom parameter to ST < 1388168675 836770 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: values in GHC Haskell have a uniform representation; they are always a pointer to a heap object whose first word is a pointer to an "info table" < 1388168693 305465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://spl.smugmug.com/Humor/Lambdacats/i-XwKHSBM/2/O/boxed%20cat%20has%20a%20uniform%20representation.jpg < 1388168696 301134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1388168696 820337 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it dispatches at runtime/ < 1388168703 733201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not dspatch even < 1388168707 129290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't dispatch at all. < 1388168711 944765 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :map :: (a -> b) -> [a] -> [b] has the same machine code regardless of what a and b are < 1388168713 735697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just like a void * (except type-safe) < 1388168728 17618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they are known to be 1 word in size < 1388168743 638187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can even force polymorphic values, with "seq" say, because that's done through that info table < 1388168768 339071 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas Rust supports passing structures of various sizes by value, and has several types of heap allocation and other stuff < 1388168771 219311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This means that unboxed types like Int# aren't really first-class. < 1388168772 495169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can < 1388168773 191510 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i was thinking of typeclasses since i don't know anything < 1388168777 501302 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :'t write "id 5#" < 1388168782 478693 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also the low level focus means you *want* to specialize your polymorphic functions to specific types < 1388168791 389099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: typeclasses are implemented by passing around a "dictionary" < 1388168819 197870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data c *> a = c => Ctx a < 1388168819 403142 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: Illegal class assertion < 1388168820 52418 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :data EqDict a = EqDict { eq :: a -> a -> Bool } < 1388168820 845009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1388168851 696127 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (*>) < 1388168852 455538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then a type like (Eq t) => Int -> t -> Int turns into EqDict t -> Int -> t -> Int < 1388168852 660849 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative f => f a -> f b -> f b < 1388168892 700023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(==) :: a -> a -> Bool turns into eq :: EqDict a -> a -> a -> Bool. < 1388168909 344696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Scala has a mechanism for implicit parameters to functions, and one can use this to do typeclass-like things < 1388168936 149403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main extra thing you get with typeclasses is that there's only one value of type EqDict t in scope at a time, so to speak < 1388168943 669851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that let you do things like instance Eq a => Eq [a]? < 1388168977 725036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so if you build two binary search trees over element type T, you know they were built with the same Ord instance < 1388168985 491379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means the binary search tree library can support efficient merges < 1388169007 778700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which you can't do when the ordering is an implicit parameter to every tree operation, with a value which could be different from time to time < 1388169022 409691 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the comparison function is part of the tree itself. < 1388169158 928782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1388169167 126647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you need to compare comparison functions to merge trees < 1388169183 47039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and extensional equality of functions is uncomputable of course -- but you might get away with intensional equality < 1388169184 767426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1388169275 943454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: in Rust it's even the case that the shape of Option depends on what T is < 1388169314 323029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if T is a non-nullable pointer (e.g. ~S or @S or &S), Option is represented by a single pointer which might be null < 1388169330 716835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's a nullable pointer or an int or a struct or something, it's represented the way variants usually are < 1388169345 709508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a tag word and a C-style union < 1388169384 651866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does rust do fancy pointer tagging things < 1388169390 55606 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388169390 261423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't believe so < 1388169395 681903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it gives you enough rope to do them yourself < 1388169398 193155 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey guys. < 1388169408 477592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tswett < 1388169413 54575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we're not all guys btw) < 1388169423 175162 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using "guy" in the looser sense. < 1388169436 912735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you don't singlehandedly decide what a word means < 1388169454 313732 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I'd say "guy" is becoming increasingly gender neutral, especially in the plural < 1388169470 285844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is still much discussion about this (e.g. http://storify.com/jvns/guys-guys-guys) so I think it's better to avoid assuming it's gender-neutral for now < 1388169476 617421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not a big deal or anything < 1388169531 426315 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"@b0rk In a personal context I also use "dude" regardless of gender but have been replacing it with gender-neutral "gurl" for balance lately." < 1388169538 701809 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gurl... < 1388169543 698153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah wtf < 1388169550 985658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU Url < 1388169747 100953 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use "guys" with a gender-neutral meaning. < 1388169755 736430 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good < 1388169773 523234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :however not everyone will understand it that way, and I like to err on the side of not alienating people < 1388169777 255013 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I smell an esolang. < 1388169785 727644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :again, it's not a big deal < 1388169794 826577 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I guess it didn't occur to me that people might be alienated. < 1388169864 755999 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scribd.com/doc/193957988/Virgil-Bucks-The-Revolutionary-Cybercurrency-On-The-Net meanwhile, in r bitcoin < 1388169894 680048 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you see https://medium.com/quinn-norton/f3db7e13e6e3 < 1388169904 922239 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i apologize for not understanding anything about polymorphs < 1388169907 720589 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1388169912 838784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what about animorphs < 1388169967 438869 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never read animorphs < 1388169973 353382 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Like everything the internet does, internet money is over-technical, over-engineered, probably not very well thought out, hilarious, profoundly male dominated, and eventually compared to Hitler" some good writing here < 1388170126 407967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: don't apologize for not knowing stuff :/ < 1388170136 251087 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's... strangely spot-on. < 1388170167 840267 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a good article < 1388170168 747161 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(stares at http://esolangs.org/wiki/Gs2#Commands) this is a lotta work < 1388170177 536949 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no i messed something up < 1388170186 421368 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do that < 1388170218 96235 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i am profoundly middle class < 1388170251 593417 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388170384 425167 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is thwarted by Qt's Reluctantness and Anti-Compilable Features
< 1388170397 742169 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :suburbs creep me out though < 1388170411 253502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1388170512 763707 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they kind of remind me of the planet from a wrinkle in time < 1388170552 737619 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suffurbs. creepy, gloomy suburbs where every house is the same, every inflatable neighbour is the same, everything is drab and all you want is to get the fungout out. < 1388170566 13629 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/fungout/fungot/ < 1388170566 219606 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i logged on. :) i think mine predates yours < 1388170579 669743 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: probably so. America is young. < 1388170619 715385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's is a predator < 1388170620 100436 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: process 1 killed. it's a nice city in june or something else? an office suite, perhaps, it's weird that if you never use " foo fnord" < 1388170659 850286 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a file format that's as feature-rich as tar or cpio but random-access and well-supported? Help me out here... I am literally considering .zip.xz. < 1388170669 210154 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://25.media.tumblr.com/d72bee13510fed7fc967a18d5fbd97ba/tumblr_mye61rDDnV1r7mymoo1_1280.png < 1388170685 146673 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: recoils in disgust < 1388170696 7397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: help < 1388170702 631588 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1388170724 697569 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What nice features do tar and cpio have? < 1388170737 778374 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆĦ! < 1388170742 94205 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Full support for all Unix garbage (modes, owner, etc) < 1388170769 654586 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need something that can archive a Unix directory tree, but has a f***ing index. < 1388170773 623770 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: fuse with compression? < 1388170791 40921 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just put each individual file into a tar file and then put all the tar files into whatever your archive file format is. < 1388170820 528521 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whelp, I'm looking at a Bitcoin price graph, and now the long-term trend actually looks pretty clear. < 1388170825 44338 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: something like a .vmdk, btrfs-formatted, with lzo? < 1388170868 502214 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That's... not terrible... enormously wasteful for a write-only filesystem, and requires root to create or extract which is a pain... < 1388170921 261018 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you sure you need root? even with fuse and qemu and plenty of four-letter emulatory words? < 1388170960 998141 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, you could set-up a vagrant system, and create a zipping utility that scp stuff over to the VM) < 1388170980 128698 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: FUSE I can tolerate, if it needed qemu then that would defeat the purpose. I could just extract the whole archive in the time it'd take to launch a friggin' VM. < 1388171016 105418 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like on average, the price has multiplied tenfold every ten months. And the longest it's ever gone without posting a gain is... a mere 21 months. < 1388171020 509572 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT. I SMELL AN ESOLANG. < 1388171030 109976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1388171033 351177 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a bunch of objects. Objects can create objects and send messages to objects. < 1388171073 499979 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388171091 20754 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives an arrow, a bat and a pit to tswett
< 1388171116 773653 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a crooked arrow? < 1388171204 35794 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388171321 921448 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it is one that can travel one edge on a dodecahedron. < 1388171334 73367 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds pretty crooked to me. < 1388171353 124714 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, that language feels like my misunderstanding of Smalltalk < 1388171373 563548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1388171384 573558 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: http://wimrijnders.nl/other/befunge/wumpus.bf hth. < 1388171390 655783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me of my idea to make an esolang which has all the properties beginners think Haskell has < 1388171393 567066 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: like Smalltalk, but with other stuff and without other stuff. Like, you know how Smalltalk message sends are really just procedure calls? These ones aren't. < 1388171409 100589 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: sounds neat. What properties are those, again? < 1388171430 389531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :automatic memoization of functions < 1388171440 428807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :type system which separates pure and impure functions < 1388171463 630286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you have to solve a category theory exercise to do IO < 1388171527 348971 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CT is easy. understanding it is hard. < 1388171607 883171 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still liking .zip.xz ... < 1388171612 271335 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With zip -0 of course) < 1388171662 532717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can you make monads actually be burritos twh < 1388171679 721312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1388171815 553794 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, lessee. Each object shall have one method and some local variables. There are a couple of things you can do. You can create another object. You can send a message to an object. And maybe you can use E's fancy "when" thing. < 1388171873 237230 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In E, when you send a message to an object using an "eventual send" statement, the statement returns immediately, returning a reference to the object's response. < 1388171912 122982 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, by the time that happens, the object hasn't responded yet, so the reference isn't very usable. < 1388171924 120658 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But once the object actually responds, *then* the reference becomes usable. < 1388171937 65147 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388172003 502888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twh < 1388172005 288895 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand. < 1388172020 120709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wasn't expecting that to work
< 1388172022 936772 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's twh? < 1388172053 840382 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would help < 1388172089 561378 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQUASHFS! < 1388172090 49313 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I call this language... < 1388172091 901077 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the answer! < 1388172132 616586 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: you should call your language “Gregor's Answer”. < 1388172145 176429 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works for me. < 1388172418 881859 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388172558 916343 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... actually a good name for this language < 1388172677 473681 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1388172756 407169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 'The name of the language is called "Haddocks' Eyes"' hth < 1388172780 958972 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So "Haddocks' Eyes" is the name of the name of the language? < 1388172800 55194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :most certainly not < 1388173080 705893 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, wait. It is the case that "The song is called Ways and Means" and that "The song is A-sitting on a Gate", right? So, uh... < 1388173088 998217 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme think, here... < 1388173109 755562 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinion of this kind of Famicom mapper? http://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/User:Zzo38/Mapper_F < 1388173111 443539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hides behind a rock to avoid exploding brain matter
< 1388173137 55755 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, "Ways and Means" and "A-sitting on a Gate" are both names. Using a name consists of referring to the name's referent; mentioning a name consists of referring to the name. < 1388173160 33057 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shuts himself in a maple lodge
< 1388173204 233677 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right. So, the phrasing gives the strong impression that the name "Ways and Means" is mentioned, whereas the name "A-sitting on a Gate" is used. < 1388173247 770487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am pretty sure the white knight would disagree with you. somehow. < 1388173295 281184 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible that when he says "The song is called Ways and Means", he's actually using the name "Ways and Means", and thus asserting that what the song is called is the reference of the name "Ways and Means". < 1388173312 55290 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, assuming my initial impression is correct... < 1388173337 790392 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The White Knight refers to the song using the phrase "A-sitting on a Gate", but asserts that it is called "Ways and Means", and that its name is "The Aged Aged Man". < 1388173361 958372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION digs a tunnel to get further away from the inevitable explosion.
< 1388173391 988570 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388173478 741426 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So when referring to the song, there are three things we could reasonably call it: "A-sitting on the Gate" (what the Knight calls it), "Ways and Means" (what the Knight asserts that it is generally called), and "The Aged Aged Man" (what the Knight asserts its proper name is). < 1388173511 349154 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it makes the most sense to refer to the song as "Ways and Means", since if that's what the song is generally called, then that's presumably the most recognizable thing by which to call it. < 1388173536 547869 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, finally, the name "Haddocks' Eyes" refers to the name "The Aged Aged Man". < 1388173656 633618 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION explodes in oerjan's tunnel
< 1388173686 970435 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chännel has become #eroteric. < 1388173980 439260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1388174532 38174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1388174533 949054 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards, and five genders. (See also: d-modules) < 1388174593 348056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who invented Tanebventions < 1388174596 9111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily? < 1388174620 153591 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He coined the term < 1388174660 481275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the master of chimærventions < 1388175174 885081 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb has five genders, eh? < 1388175176 533618 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are they? < 1388175180 842689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Isn't category theory defined as "objects and arrows"? And a monad is just the category of types (or so I read somewhere).» < 1388175245 410088 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I can really only think of one name that has a name itself, and that's the tetragrammaton. < 1388175279 673489 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear objects are just morphisms on the category of noumenon < 1388175313 738834 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also hear that the name of the rose is actually just "Rose". lovely woma < 1388175314 594029 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concepts are just Kan extensions. < 1388175314 799800 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1388175334 227048 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like Tyler or like Lalonde? < 1388175343 338181 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lalonde < 1388175366 961680 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388175475 845284 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't think of any either, other than the tetragrammaton and the one due to shakespeare < 1388175532 680183 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the one due to Shakespeare? < 1388175535 208030 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Macbeth? < 1388175553 191309 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rose by any other name < 1388175556 756637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: whatchaf < 1388175583 383989 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, one of them is "male" < 1388175585 905975 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388175589 54169 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other four are secret < 1388175590 572741 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/1tr6ur/wolf_goat_cabbage_solving_simple_logic_problems/ gan < 1388175602 286795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the article it links to is not much better < 1388175622 914140 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388175660 463992 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, apparently 'the name of the rose' isn't related to shakespeare, silly me < 1388175718 884894 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org NICK :monotone < 1388175792 15554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also i like how everyone seems to link to http://adit.io/posts/2013-04-17-functors,_applicatives,_and_monads_in_pictures.html < 1388175840 726280 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess people don't usually talk about names independently of their referents enough for the use of a name rather than "[referent]'s name" to be necessary < 1388175889 669390 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know the name of the wind kthx < 1388175895 638150 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the wind" hth < 1388175899 29900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION takes a big hit from a bong shaped like douglass hofstadter's head
< 1388175917 957563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_ hofstadter < 1388175922 694816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1388175980 975435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: imo come up with a name which names itself < 1388175987 33190 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tom < 1388175989 587315 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1388176016 417283 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE AUTONOMEN < 1388176165 721867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/OMEN/YM you greek-latin mixing fiend < 1388176201 311699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is greek-latin like pig-latin < 1388176216 607443 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan meant to say "you greek–latin mixing fiend". < 1388176225 554862 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a really easy typo to make. < 1388176227 510979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: onay < 1388176252 18584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett meant to say «oerjan meant to say "you greek—latin mixing friend".» < 1388176259 945191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode – < 1388176261 921308 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2013 EN DASH] < 1388176268 993901 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode — < 1388176270 435423 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2014 EM DASH] < 1388176275 629918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode r < 1388176277 249095 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R] < 1388176306 969730 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you filthy offspring of unspecified gender of a dog of unspecified gender < 1388176321 832417 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode éé < 1388176323 389106 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00E9 LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0301 COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT] < 1388176327 136842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are these genders included in taneb's secret list < 1388176338 65346 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how should I know? < 1388176343 395519 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will neither confirm or deny that < 1388176348 905494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1388176367 835823 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to think of a word or short phrase meaning "reference upon whose resolution a piece of code will be queued to execute". < 1388176407 880412 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thunk? < 1388176424 489839 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1388176436 227743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :promise? < 1388176467 692154 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Promise" here just means "unresolved reference". < 1388176470 308574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :both of those seem backwards somehow < 1388176803 718438 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, "nomen" is Latin, isn't it. < 1388176813 470926 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ye < 1388176822 753136 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :noumenanome < 1388176983 925116 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whelp, I just finished writing the semantics for my unfinished version of Gregor's Answer. < 1388177004 129626 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388177044 112914 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode  < 1388177045 764441 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+E000 DUNNO] < 1388177055 5866 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should make a language called . < 1388177071 660966 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1388177076 763892 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/unidecode < 1388177078 630437 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/unidecode < 1388177084 476584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1388177086 838287 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name of the language's name would, of course, be "Unicode private use character U+E000". < 1388177092 417527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also for me that shows up as a penguin <3 < 1388177095 460476 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a language whose name is f8ff in whatever encoding < 1388177130 115428 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about , what does that show up as for you guys. < 1388177142 216016 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rectangle < 1388177150 445835 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's a way I could copy an invalid code point to the clipboard... < 1388177170 945827 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmm. < 1388177180 511826 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :øÿ < 1388177201 957084 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I could probably set this text box's character encoding to Latin1. < 1388177232 366499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me  is a big squiggly thing that's like 5 times wider than a usual character < 1388177236 503502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(proportional font natch) < 1388177288 747138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : is a benzene ring < 1388177299 704914 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ÿø < 1388177301 22962 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00FF LATIN SMALL LETTER Y WITH DIAERESIS] [U+00F8 LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH STROKE] < 1388177304 830459 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww. < 1388177306 26097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : is a keyboard key icon with a GNU on it < 1388177399 782938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :penguins, flowers, italicized greek, ligatures, cantillated hebrew, strikethrough latin, gnus, hangul jamo, georgian script (??), box drawin' characters < 1388177422 556561 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why ?? < 1388177428 954960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause I can't identify it for sure < 1388177431 266425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :without Effort < 1388177432 727762 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1388177457 638996 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388177552 945903 :tswett_!~blah@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388177563 716571 :tswett_!~blah@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahoy. < 1388177571 290384 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a dried chicken wing < 1388177579 759717 :tswett_!~blah@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who, < 1388177584 884719 :tswett_!~blah@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1388177588 482680 :tswett_!~blah@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who, me? < 1388177594 424877 :tswett_!~blah@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode �� < 1388177595 993405 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unidecode", line 4, in \ print u" ".join("[U+{0:04X} {1}]".format(ord(c), unicodedata.name(c, "DUNNO")) for c in " ".join(sys.argv[1:]).decode("utf-8")).encode("utf-8") \ File "/opt/python27/lib/python2.7/encodings/utf_8.py", line 16, in decode \ return codecs.utf_8_decode < 1388177607 480163 :tswett_!~blah@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh-huh. < 1388177622 641133 :tswett_!~blah@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode �� < 1388177624 510489 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unidecode", line 4, in \ print u" ".join("[U+{0:04X} {1}]".format(ord(c), unicodedata.name(c, "DUNNO")) for c in " ".join(sys.argv[1:]).decode("utf-8")).encode("utf-8") \ File "/opt/python27/lib/python2.7/encodings/utf_8.py", line 16, in decode \ return codecs.utf_8_decode < 1388177631 126602 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode øÿ < 1388177632 717158 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00F8 LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH STROKE] [U+00FF LATIN SMALL LETTER Y WITH DIAERESIS] < 1388177640 560403 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is hapen < 1388177643 665746 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sump'm wunky. < 1388177747 367907 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme see here. < 1388177751 17542 :tswett_!~blah@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1388177783 863508 :tswett_!~blah@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388177794 787216 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ¡olé! < 1388177819 216362 :tswett_!~blah@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ¡olé! < 1388177827 400884 :tswett_!~blah@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah baby. We're in business. < 1388177842 941925 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Somebody set us up the bomb. < 1388177844 643800 :tswett_!~blah@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ¡é < 1388177846 164600 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00A1 INVERTED EXCLAMATION MARK] [U+00E9 LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE] < 1388177922 936421 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I kinda wonder, like, what if I, like... < 1388177938 58428 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoked a bong /made out of/ hofstater's head? < 1388177968 961506 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That just gave me an error message. < 1388178039 386567 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I typed 猫 into the thing that's supposed to convert UTF-8 to Latin1. < 1388178048 545433 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thing is, I guess that's not really possible. < 1388178067 907205 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not in latin1 is it < 1388178073 683806 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1388178073 921790 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, in fact, latin < 1388178084 973681 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think ¡ is Latin either, but it's in Latin1. < 1388178110 990888 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in a romance language at least. < 1388178129 456875 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How romantic. < 1388178151 432122 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode à < 1388178153 236231 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00C3 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH TILDE] [U+0083 DUNNO] < 1388178179 494994 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode à < 1388178180 914018 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00C3 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH TILDE] [U+0083 DUNNO] [U+00C2 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH CIRCUMFLEX] [U+0083 DUNNO] < 1388178211 874720 :tswett_!~blah@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388178258 797382 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did write a program, which can do some things including convert UTF-8 to Latin1. < 1388178282 483641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`from-8bit 猫 < 1388178284 310273 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconv: illegal input sequence at position 0 \ iconv: conversion from `None' is not supported \ Try `iconv --help' or `iconv --usage' for more information. \ iconv: illegal input sequence at position 0 < 1388178294 998527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :none encoding with left beef < 1388178341 693586 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lessee, in raw binary, that's 11000011 01000011 11000010 01000011, but in UTF-8 that's 11000011 10000011 01000011 11000011 10000010 01000011. < 1388178359 81859 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, nope, 8 is 1000, not 0100. < 1388178408 403815 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"raw" nothin, i need to see the outgoing square wave < 1388178425 82542 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from an intense session of XML with . may I ask why are you converting cats? < 1388178447 929240 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So 11000011 is encoded as 11000011 10000011, and 10000011 is encoded as 11000010 10000011, and 11000010 is encoded as 11000011 10000010, and 10000010 is encoded as 11000010 10000010. Right? < 1388178463 419704 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: on which medium? < 1388178486 203034 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :twisted pair < 1388178490 97107 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my band < 1388178526 375217 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but which twisted pair? < 1388178564 447851 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one from your computer to whatever < 1388178579 769624 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To my external hard drive? < 1388178606 403521 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, send me an oscilloscope and a spare USB Mini cable. < 1388178611 257645 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. asking why cats are twisted may not be the right enquiry. this conversation has drifted far away from my Earthly needs. I shall drink a glass of OJ, resume my album, and coast along. < 1388178714 397151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :µ isn't very Latin, but is also in Latin-1. < 1388178773 919684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Sure, but μ isn't. < 1388178823 774639 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the MICRO SIGN belongs to everyone. < 1388178828 812689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like space. < 1388178848 579912 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what sucks? µµg < 1388178849 988624 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck those < 1388178867 799986 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Micromicrograms? < 1388178875 435196 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1388178876 543549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1388178922 821183 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :used by certain horrible people instead of nano- < 1388178937 969613 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or femtogram? w/e < 1388178990 466875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Picogram, presumably. < 1388179068 369886 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388179084 690100 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you use scruples and minims? < 1388179084 895771 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it is. :p))) name)) < 1388179096 744147 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: your bot. it is mocking me. < 1388179109 842800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot has no scruples < 1388179110 156458 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm sure that all the cps in the first hl, it seems well suited to objects, not classes, lectures < 1388179197 386182 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what are hles? < 1388179197 631943 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that kinda sucks < 1388179214 560653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: be nice to boily, fungot < 1388179214 805530 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but if you're at ip=2, the interp will be in the " strong set", you have 1 message. < 1388179225 647638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1388179240 246347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you've convinced me. niceness to boily is entirely gratuitous < 1388179240 482643 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well anyway! this is classic :) anyone know a fast algorithm in c ( because i'll already have implementations of it < 1388179264 220476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: your bot is rather full of itself < 1388179284 145651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What else would it be full of? < 1388179284 993868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, maybe this is the setup for a joke < 1388179295 934880 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yes, i know a fast algorithm in c < 1388179296 137279 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: bye? :p. < 1388179302 680012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p. < 1388179305 463055 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: bleh :P < 1388179310 211876 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see if my plan what I have to do next in a Dungeons&Dragons game is good enough! < 1388179339 471920 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do YOU know what it is? < 1388179355 538250 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the plan? < 1388179377 790395 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hey, you know, I really like hanging out with you. < 1388179377 993750 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: the func kylew just refered to is the first argument < 1388179382 309903 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, I DMed a bout of Paranoia last Sunday. it was deadly :D) < 1388179505 727634 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes I mean the plan. (If you don't know, I can tell you, but maybe I forgot something important too) < 1388179537 649696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Such as, what happens in case of something other than what I expected, or am unable to do for some reason) < 1388179573 268453 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: could you tell me the plan that is meant, and the Somethings that are Othered, the Forgotten Expectations and Everything Else? < 1388179588 5881 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I can try < 1388179673 707174 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I need to do, is find an area of plains in the middle of nowhere with nobody else around, make some cage or walls or something so that it is possible to see and hear through but not to walk through, bury the anti-magic amulet upside-down, attached to a trapdoor, hidden with grass, slightly open so that when it is stepped on it will close, ... < 1388179706 218172 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :upside-down? < 1388179732 279899 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Put another object underneath which will support it, and enchant it with a spell allowing anyone in range who speaks the command word to retrieve it, and then force the prisoner and captain into the cage, lock it, and run away, ... < 1388179822 771890 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a weird analog to the Schrödingcat? < 1388179861 20656 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Make some barrier or something to assure that they will not step on the patch of the grass where it is hidden until we run away, and then they will step into the circle to un-mind-switch, and the captain will then say something which happens to contain the command word (but he doesn't know that is what it is). < 1388179864 611917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No. < 1388179905 418064 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. I was fearing it wasn't as devious as it seemed. proceed with your Terrifying Plan, then... < 1388179981 265835 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This may require some psychology to know what we expect the captain to say and to manipulate the situation into such a phrase. < 1388179988 992787 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, can you tell me why this won't compile? http://lpaste.net/3941835973981110272 < 1388180006 778978 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you tell me what the error message is? < 1388180042 101638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But before all of that, we may need to handcuff them together. I have already tied up both of them, but that isn't good enough. < 1388180053 304829 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: a traditional Batman Gambit. < 1388180054 296670 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, unexpected failure < 1388180064 965217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :internal compiler error?? < 1388180065 989414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks < 1388180067 429237 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aye < 1388180079 13083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I think you want: use std::io::{stdin, ReaderUtil}; ...; stdin.read_char() < 1388180088 609583 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it may be because I completely misread a lot of the tutorial < 1388180097 83650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when a function is documented as taking self or &self etc, you call it using OOP method call syntax < 1388180101 599088 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes I suppose it is a bit like a Batman Gambit, but far more confusing. < 1388180118 121779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to call such a method from a trait, you need to bring the trait into scope, even though the name isn't explicitly used < 1388180120 557734 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388180125 61016 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1388180133 12081 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :glelllolllolllelllogbackup. < 1388180147 467800 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and why the requirement to the handcuffs? < 1388180168 603703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: So that they are forced to remain next to each other. < 1388180188 334626 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, now it gives me an actual error < 1388180191 615138 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: indeed. only one trap, and you wouldn't want one of them staying untrapped, eh? < 1388180202 712959 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :failed to find an implementation of trait std::io::Reader for extern "Rust" fn() -> @std::io::Reader:'static < 1388180257 126037 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you need to call stdin() < 1388180261 261803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get the object which represents stdin < 1388180263 580449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember why :/ < 1388180277 877149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're using the old @-ful IO stuff < 1388180278 865860 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well, I intend to set the captain free afterward if the plan works correctly. But I won't free the other guy. < 1388180283 44371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all this code will be scrapped when you upgrade Rust < 1388180303 738263 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serves me right for trying to learn an indev language :) < 1388180310 864294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ayup < 1388180319 404018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the /concepts/ are pretty much fixed at this point < 1388180338 825709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the concepts are unique enough that they require some learning < 1388180350 364049 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like learning Python when you know Ruby or whatever < 1388180360 492814 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so you need an unhandcuffer somewhere. < 1388180381 727034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That will be easily enough to do afterward, I expect. < 1388180400 458082 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, my code works now < 1388180403 557405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coool! < 1388180405 768083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratsneb < 1388180446 408130 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(trying to solve http://rosalind.info/problems/dna/ ) < 1388180507 517312 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there are things to consider, such as the range of the anti-magic, which is 60ft. < 1388180533 983103 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehh, it has "Translating RNA into Protein" but the actual problem is way easier than the title makes you think < 1388180538 925289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1388180542 408557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah write a protein folding simulator < 1388180560 86258 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: would you like style criticism on your code < 1388180579 589105 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please < 1388180581 416474 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it may be necessary to see what is happening from remotely, somehow. This is to see who is dead and who is switched and stuff like that. < 1388180584 492559 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool little site though < 1388180610 867974 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, for practising programming I'd rate it much higher than Euler < 1388180617 480316 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :loop { match my_stdin.read_char() { '\n' => break, ... } } < 1388180621 322026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that avoids the need for buf < 1388180632 808788 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's true, euler involves a lot more math < 1388180633 877318 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval intercalate " " . map (show . length) . group . sort $ "AGCTTTTCATTCTGACTGCAACGGGCAATATGTCTCTGTGTGGATTAAAAAAAGAGTGTCTGATAGCAGC" < 1388180635 820029 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"20 12 17 21" < 1388180638 363050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since there is also the possibility that the prisoner is lying and he may be able to kill the captain. But, I do have a backup plan in that case too! < 1388180648 341152 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, ooh, cunning < 1388180653 413525 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t intercalate < 1388180654 244428 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a] -> [[a]] -> [a] < 1388180664 363825 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: 60ft radius of AM? that's more than enough. < 1388180664 894999 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I miss anything else important, perhaps? < 1388180667 185338 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that may be cheating. < 1388180677 898592 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and what is your contingency plan? < 1388180679 528606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might also use a hashmap rather than 4 variables, but that's something a matter of taste < 1388180698 850709 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: eeeeh... you really need a roof over your cage. < 1388180701 710763 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, with only 4 variables, it doesn't feel worth it < 1388180703 603260 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, totally impractical for sequences of realistic length :p < 1388180704 560596 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes I know it is more than enough, but if it is too large, that can be a problem too; the exact range will be important. < 1388180705 361022 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any more, and I'd switch < 1388180707 312720 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: also, dig-proof your trap. < 1388180736 504109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in master rust there is println!(..) which does the fmt! for you < 1388180740 811912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does rust refer to things by their implementations < 1388180741 96142 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes I need the roof, I suppose. < 1388180741 897478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the formatting language has completely changed < 1388180744 375750 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rosalind.info/problems/mprt/ now that's more like it < 1388180747 318639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there are traits too < 1388180751 782613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't remember if hashmap uses the trait < 1388180751 988580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean "hashmap" < 1388180764 362353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean that there is a trait for unordered containers or w/e < 1388180764 882047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe that's what you mean < 1388180769 737647 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, how do you mean, dig-proof? It isn't really a trap; it is supposed to be a kind of defense mechanism. < 1388180772 994041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1388180793 180385 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey look! de bruijn! < 1388180805 860351 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :edit distance is way down there tho < 1388180809 622823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's now more like Python's str.format method < 1388180824 89478 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might have to do these < 1388180828 631546 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is p. cool < 1388180872 654661 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool how close bioinformatics is to information theory stuffs < 1388180883 230641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My backup plan is that if the prisoner kills the captain, have someone go near the cage and speak another phrase which happens to contain the command word, and then call me and the royal wizard over, to deal with it. < 1388180883 956282 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hmm... when we D&D, we always find a way to severely compromise the physical integrity of surrounding things, whatever material they may be made of. < 1388180895 518703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to rant about how format strings should be replaced with some richer data type < 1388180903 585482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I realized that you'd have to re-build all the internationalization tools < 1388180916 101457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :format strings are the bread and butter of i18n, which is largely performed by non-programmers < 1388180930 128581 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Can you explain more about that please? < 1388180932 762866 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so the intent is to have the prisonner die in a discreet manner, surrounded by Green Pastures. < 1388180937 545961 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you use format strings for internationalization? < 1388180951 491224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the syntax used by Python .format() and new Rust fmt! allows the format string to permute its arguments, which is important for i18n < 1388180958 739548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case why aren't they called forinternationalization strings < 1388180961 754143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1388180965 383641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blame Gracenotes < 1388180967 161142 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: NO. The intent is to force him to un-mind-switch with the captain; the captain wants his body back. < 1388180971 246715 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: explosions, magical mishaps, stupid self-sacrifices with energy buildups, mutations... < 1388180974 991747 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh. < 1388180979 920783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hungarian fori18ns < 1388180983 429451 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388180995 461485 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a serious question i don't know about i18n < 1388181007 629494 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in my plan I have just the only small window of magic in order to prevent other magical stuff. < 1388181009 858315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, someone has to translate all the strings used in the UI < 1388181025 969936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they'll often be format strings because stuff gets interpolated < 1388181033 12383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The secondary objective is the prisoner to be dead. < 1388181044 137291 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing i know about is that one C library that defines a _ macro or suchlike < 1388181050 78229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and different languages put things in different orders sometimes < 1388181066 562937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :_(Bicycle) < 1388181071 230795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bicyclidine < 1388181071 530059 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: AAAAAAAAAAH! sudden illumination. “mind switch.” I now understand. < 1388181087 928228 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote zzo38: AAAAAAAAAAH! sudden illumination. “mind switch.” I now understand. < 1388181092 557672 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1149) zzo38: AAAAAAAAAAH! sudden illumination. “mind switch.” I now understand. < 1388181115 618995 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have println(_("fuck your shit")) and the _ takes care of making a list of what needs to be translated, and replacing it, or... whatever < 1388181122 563470 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :squashfs is my new favorite archival format. < 1388181125 322673 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :println isn't real c but, fuck it < 1388181140 738933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define println puts < 1388181145 290579 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that one < 1388181153 655085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define create creat < 1388181162 684702 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, final code: http://runciman.hacksoc.org/~taneb/dna.rs.txt any more tips/ < 1388181177 673692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"apparently future rust does this nicer." i'm not sure about that :3 < 1388181197 374363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks good Taneb < 1388181211 93339 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1388181215 973869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have a += operator? i forgot < 1388181223 299715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (+=) < 1388181224 271391 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Num a, MonadState s m) => ASetter' s a -> a -> m () < 1388181230 315330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you don't need the semicolon after match { ... }; < 1388181236 573246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause it ends the enclosing block < 1388181261 976330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if during the month after february but before april, you could use march { ... } blocks < 1388181269 660253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would be a syntax error otherwise < 1388181272 830252 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :el oh el < 1388181303 739570 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, there is a += < 1388181324 444402 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is not a ++ < 1388181327 343411 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCIENCE < 1388181334 154106 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think for reasons < 1388181339 18262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i mean, who likes ++ < 1388181339 222251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i can't remember < 1388181343 55298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :++-- < 1388181350 316161 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma ++ < 1388181354 703016 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​++ has 0 karma. < 1388181360 356213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(who's *crementing whom here??) < 1388181367 796065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know that there was concern over letting people overload += because you might make x += y behave semantically differently from x = x + y, but you probably *do* want them to be different for efficiency < 1388181369 513456 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ah, but there is more! I will need to blindfold them at first, while arranging the area for the box in the grass. Since, we need to make them remain in the range of the anti-magic field. < 1388181385 112971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :say x and y are huge matrices, it is better to add the elements in-place if you can < 1388181403 298982 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, that is still semantically equivalent, just not operationally, right? < 1388181427 155367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's no way for the lang to verify that your += and + overloads are consistent < 1388181437 209645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the C++ answer is "sucks to be you then" < 1388181448 184846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Rust people are less happy with that answer? < 1388181449 503976 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1388181454 800949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta go ttyl < 1388181491 506160 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: will you have to use timed, self-disintegrating blindfolds? < 1388181508 263637 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, disappearing toward some random movie.) < 1388181510 8758 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No, removing them by hand should be OK. < 1388181523 272729 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: more reliable. < 1388181529 126786 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Quit: HORROR CHICKEN < 1388181532 286438 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388181551 917084 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully, do all of you others understand this plan now? < 1388181558 517770 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it too confusing? < 1388181572 245205 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes sense to me < 1388181594 552657 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, good. < 1388181618 600851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I miss anything, or is there another question to consider, or something else? There may be something I haven't anticipated yet. < 1388181649 920212 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388181788 943118 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another program! < 1388181789 251110 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://runciman.hacksoc.org/~taneb/rna.rs.txt < 1388181798 934888 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388181820 672597 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please anyone make ANY criticism you can think of < 1388181838 564033 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you not care about recieving invalid dna? < 1388181845 627043 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1388182034 822700 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388182101 15156 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-224-68.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388182159 1512 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with something that simple is there much to criticize < 1388182177 577626 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike_, I want to make sure I'm not doing anything awful < 1388182191 462876 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, in a Haskell program that long I could do like 100 awful things < 1388182345 287323 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well everything i can think of is boring stuff like 'what about lowercase letters' and CRLF handling < 1388182350 106547 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1388182357 680168 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could skip to making more general transducers i guess < 1388182385 166379 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, the input is very restricted. Not sure about crlf handling, though < 1388182424 114221 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: That looks suspiciously like Rust < 1388182441 95089 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, there is a good reason for that < 1388182455 100232 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my amazingly awesome experience with bio lab code, line endings are an everpresent nightmare, so be prepared?? < 1388182476 338685 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I've had something in my eye for like two hours < 1388182487 836760 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Also looks suspiciously like converting DNA to RNA in a Rosalind problem < 1388182505 890728 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have just used tr < 1388182517 929928 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, general transducer. < 1388182549 272668 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, my goal is to learn rust, not to solve Rosalind problems :) < 1388182565 807719 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like i shoudl complain about 'converting' there since you're totally ignoring primary transcription < 1388182567 534303 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1388182574 438481 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Project Euler too mathy? < 1388182592 870036 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, Project Euler I find is awful for learning a language < 1388182612 742266 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Right now, isn't it that what breaks out of the loop is an error? < 1388182618 507044 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not good < 1388182633 576847 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1388182654 612833 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you've got an infinite loop with a match in it < 1388182661 860065 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then a statement after that < 1388182694 562278 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume you mean for that statement to be reached at some point < 1388182695 513760 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :break breaks out of the loop, rather than signaling an error < 1388182710 948907 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait < 1388182720 448173 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't notice that the \n case broke out of the loop < 1388182725 159185 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disregard me, I'm derpy >_< < 1388182738 205490 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: What happens when the loop gets EOF? < 1388182846 303135 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388182990 366865 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388183193 7738 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388183300 817717 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1388184205 445142 :pjotter!~pjotter@a80-101-119-171.adsl.xs4all.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1388184600 399722 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388184698 446361 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, I am not sure < 1388184715 674836 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Try it out, pipe it a file without a newline < 1388184719 964601 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388184748 408089 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You could also handle lowercase input < 1388184785 724458 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it fails if there isn't a newline < 1388184829 800348 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you could try to fix that < 1388184949 96016 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know where to begin :( < 1388184980 286916 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I do < 1388185048 326724 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It... sort of works now < 1388185057 924525 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ ./rna < bad < 1388185058 128142 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :UUU���� < 1388185067 12380 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect < 1388185093 427352 :pjotter!~pjotter@a80-101-119-171.adsl.xs4all.nl PART :#esoteric < 1388185105 203375 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it supposed to do < 1388185116 480845 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :replace t's with u's < 1388185127 929888 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rosalind.info/problems/rna/ < 1388185133 327630 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1388185157 217914 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be more useful if it replaced rna sequences with correctly folded sequences of amino acids! :P < 1388185174 693301 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a later one about turing rna into primary structure yes < 1388185179 119805 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :turning* < 1388185207 197796 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if there's anything about regulatory networks and/or ribozyme kinda crapola < 1388185207 781797 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, baby steps < 1388185227 927332 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the issue is that it can't tell if it's at eof until it's tried to read < 1388185236 864122 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's reading in UTF32 < 1388185258 424815 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it tries to read a character, gets nonsense 4 times < 1388185268 365976 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pseudoknot.svg so easy < 1388185327 398974 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In BNF, [] denotes something optional and {} denotes something repeated zero or more times, right? < 1388185343 436800 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, library documentation is lacking in places < 1388185346 120586 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1388185355 152128 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'The general problem of predicting lowest free energy structures with pseudoknots has been shown to be NP-complete.[5][6]' sonova < 1388185418 231643 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only know the reverse process, which you can do by dumping shit in bleacch < 1388185420 634622 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you physics < 1388185492 260382 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that this website has the same name as my grandmother < 1388185524 538287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :your grandfather's name is wikipedia? < 1388185552 907590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, rosalind.info < 1388185553 106515 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, it works now :) < 1388185559 335747 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1388185561 324044 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we see? < 1388185562 352548 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said nothing about my grandfather, plus you can't talk about him cuz he's still alive < 1388185590 47329 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://runciman.hacksoc.org/~taneb/rna.rs.txt < 1388185616 862044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1388185646 131352 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I accidentally duplicated the eof test < 1388185647 881081 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you need that second branch/ < 1388185651 132925 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1388185659 329432 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first one should be removed < 1388185682 825038 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try now < 1388185686 646237 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, really? i'd remove the second < 1388185693 524982 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens on an empty file, for one < 1388185699 739367 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, because it needs to have read a character to tell if it's eof < 1388185702 660791 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is weird, man < 1388185709 51934 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that... what? < 1388185718 271440 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens on an empty file, then? < 1388185737 283489 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.rust-lang.org/doc/0.8/std/io/trait.Reader.html#fn.eof < 1388185741 65174 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, empty output < 1388185760 806847 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Gregor%27s_Answer – there, doesn't this spec suck. < 1388185785 215122 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ah, hm. < 1388185794 803902 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems more like an error checkk. weird. < 1388185810 842778 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you can create objects, and send them messages, and such. < 1388185819 283285 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....whiiiiich is exactly how feof works. < 1388185841 242006 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be nice if you could create an object representing a pair of two other objects. < 1388185871 346463 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't it just be the usual "object that understands fst and snd messages" shit < 1388185891 609820 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: thing is, each object only has one method. < 1388185920 681011 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, so branch on message content? < 1388185932 738089 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no obvious way to branch. < 1388186001 758512 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: needs example program < 1388186087 313975 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388186111 182035 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x{hel low orl d} – sets x to an object that, when called, returns nothing. < 1388186126 289155 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slightly, slightly more interesting: < 1388186146 997168 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x{@} – sets x to an object that, when called, returns its argument. < 1388186230 39151 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, here's an idea. < 1388186356 68875 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a{ i{@} yix xi@ y } < 1388186365 48713 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When called, returns whatever it returned the last time it was called. < 1388186401 40704 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that'll do it, if you just expand it a little bit: a{ i{@} ziy yix xi@ y }. Returns whatever it returned the penultimate time it was called. < 1388186442 550966 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A two-element queue can certainly be used as an ordered pair. < 1388186490 247937 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"True" and "false" can be implemented as objects that take one of these queues and return either its first or its second element. < 1388186790 953176 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next one < 1388186791 326155 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://runciman.hacksoc.org/~taneb/revc.rs.txt < 1388187180 297885 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, thoughts? < 1388187325 644086 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still think you could/should write general transduction < 1388187386 395538 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, baby steps < 1388187415 215438 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've practically done it anyway < 1388187574 564569 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388187735 540850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1388187908 458724 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://joelgrus.com/2013/12/24/why-programming-language-x-is-unambiguously-better-than-programming-language-y/ more like loglan than klingon < 1388188181 208062 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: http://www.opticsinfobase.org/ao/abstract.cfm?uri=ao-52-27-6735 this looks coolio < 1388188243 527084 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :supposedly 'outperforms' jpeg < 1388188250 832148 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever that means < 1388188385 18340 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :JPEG-2000 outperforms JPEG. Still nobody gives a shit. < 1388188451 980852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that JPEG supports arithmetic coding but nobody uses it because \rainbow{PATENTS} < 1388188510 622 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaaaaay < 1388188512 528068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rainbow patents :'( < 1388188517 282293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :next they'll patent hugs and kittens < 1388188547 396252 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i already did. super hard to enforce tho. < 1388188569 795135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rainbow patents, are they like a space-efficient way of patenting huge areas of patentable things? < 1388188660 550555 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a four-gig rainbow patent can cover all possible software patents up to 32 pages long and so on. < 1388188696 562793 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We claim: 1. A method whereby a process is applied in a circumstance, the process having been chosen with regard to the circumstance so as to achieve a result possessing some quality. < 1388188698 751390 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like there's already a form for that at the patent office < 1388188710 969993 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. The method of claim 1, where the quality is a desirable quality. < 1388188738 481425 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3. The method of claim 3, where the circumstance is the desirability of an object. < 1388188752 726458 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4. The method of claim 3, where the process creates the desired object. < 1388188760 245811 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :did claim 3 just refer to itself < 1388188762 440912 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, claim 3 should refer to claim 1, not claim 3. < 1388188788 237261 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5. The method of claim 1, where the process is chosen because of its similarity to another process. < 1388188810 171686 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6. The method of claim 5, where the second process is a process that has been successful in the past. < 1388188841 881121 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7. The method of claim 1, where the process is chosen based on an analysis of the predicted results of the process. < 1388188873 471933 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8. The method of claim 7, where the analysis involves deductive and/or inductive logic. < 1388188941 522912 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok enough we get it < 1388188945 999638 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9. The method of claim 8, where the logic is used to infer— < 1388188949 262097 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right. < 1388188970 969074 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, yeah, that one typo gives me an idea. < 1388189076 396420 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps by filing a patent on this claim, we could end up with a patent that could be enforced against anything: < 1388189079 147546 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. The method of claim 1. < 1388189707 587135 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the irc log a valid repertory of prior art < 1388189745 564207 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say it probably is, really. < 1388190574 572174 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: is this a real patent? it should be < 1388190616 503568 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Submit it to the patent office and list me as a co-inventor. < 1388191105 370371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a file to download the entire SDL 1.x documentation into my computer? < 1388191364 882042 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388191538 633757 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388191555 733684 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1388195087 278953 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388196029 813549 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I live within 50 miles of where half of my great-great grandparents were born < 1388198334 744557 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388198337 270315 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :your family should get out more :P < 1388199842 862491 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388199935 732156 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388200262 38482 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://phys.org/news/2012-09-scientists-renowned-uncertainty-principle.html this... doesn't sound likely to be accurate < 1388200281 256998 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone have more information? < 1388200331 630849 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388200621 597406 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i'm reading it right it's not actually talking about the momentum-position inequality < 1388200707 304874 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=6668117941979885066 anyway, more info for ya < 1388200719 369923 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am unhappy that phys rev lett wants me to sign in just to see citations < 1388200746 904989 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388200797 523110 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why does anyone even like pg (reading responses to your hacker tweet) < 1388200830 228953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's smart, he understands his industry, and he is very good at pandering to young smart people with no perspective < 1388200834 646495 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"startup gospel" is a terrifying phrase < 1388200838 621115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep! < 1388200889 917886 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my impression of him is mostly from #lisp, because every few weeks a wide-eyed twenty-something comes in and talks about wanting to do everything like pg, and then leaves in a huff when we talk about bad style or whatever stupid thing < 1388200900 760597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1388200906 810489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah his Lisp book is... unorthodox < 1388200910 417371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MACROS FOR EVERYTHING < 1388200916 437402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU GET A MACRO! YOU GET A MACRO! EVERYONE GETS A MACRO! < 1388200927 474666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think even diehard lispers tend to acknowledge that, like, functions are also a p. cool way to abstract < 1388200930 571965 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then they get like, offended when people say that, i may as well be spitting on muhammad < 1388200962 614744 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the first thing people do in lisp (including myself...) is write an assload of worthless macros >_> < 1388200988 153112 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i wrote one to abstract calling web apis, a very function thing < 1388201031 628670 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure my first lisp programs were stateless < 1388201034 800058 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway point is fuck that guy < 1388201058 46223 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :point-free? < 1388201075 622999 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real Hackers call it pointless < 1388201082 509512 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1388201154 306185 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the actual reason i asked is there was a guy talking about how lispers shouldn't use vim, on this tweet about pg being a sexist git, and it's like dude no c'mon < 1388201165 708783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah seriously < 1388201185 996753 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i start bashing pg and people are like "yeah he's not a REAL HACKER either! he didn't write enough codez" < 1388201188 975473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-___- < 1388201200 164454 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it does seem like emacs gets tailored to lispers more. with lispbox and whatnot < 1388201215 198169 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the point < 1388201233 852772 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pointless < 1388201241 112503 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is if i start complaining about hitler's policies re the romani you don't complain about his anti-smoking campaign being ineffective < 1388201274 97782 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hitler analogies are so tempting, every time. < 1388201314 785002 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you know he could have been revolutionary. think how much better off the germans would have been if they'd started to quit smoking in the 30s! < 1388201341 240020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: he also banned tubas and decreased the compensation given to passengers on delayed reichsbahn trains! < 1388201345 95119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#lessercrimesofthethirdreich < 1388201397 831097 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought "there is more to life than this" was from shakespeare or something but it turns out to be the name of a self-help book by a spirit talker, so, nevermind < 1388201402 960453 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a douche < 1388201420 505624 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, how do you ban tubas < 1388201422 106493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Christ, what an asshole" < 1388201443 423897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: go around arresting people who play the tuba? how do you ban anything < 1388201483 11686 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to say, hitler was somewhat less nice to his fellow man than he could have been, wouldn't you say? < 1388201497 477494 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :look i'm imagining this and i'm stuck on the idea of a 'tuba control board' a la the dea < 1388201511 689534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hitler is a jerk, Mussolini is a weenie < 1388201558 840461 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the German name would be 100x better < 1388201567 121377 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the GSP could have been sent to break up polka bands and smash the tuba < 1388201570 219375 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's very true < 1388201609 163317 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember hearing something interesting slash not a joke about subversive jazz clubs in the reich, maybe they brought in tubas when they really wanted to flip off the powers that be < 1388201611 37652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i can't find a citation for this < 1388201614 300653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was accordians instead < 1388201635 758236 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what! madness < 1388201661 422711 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tubasteuerkarte < 1388201684 445668 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wai < 1388201685 938091 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388201687 798297 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they wouldn't < 1388201698 461363 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :accordions were the superpopularist < 1388202477 248264 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://arxiv.org/abs/1308.4853 looks particularly relevant... maybe < 1388202916 914005 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388203324 52484 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388203583 589537 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I have little idea what that's saying. Is it saying there are things similar to what Heisenberg covers, but their definitions weren't like that of Heisenberg, but this paper redefines stuff to make them match closer? < 1388203615 804977 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats me < 1388203623 618068 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i'm pretty sure this isn't about the actual inequality < 1388204644 886731 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388205061 894438 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388205666 477523 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388206029 782846 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1388206036 392807 :mauke_!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1388206127 917784 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388206152 204409 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1388206177 453603 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex NICK :preflex < 1388206180 991846 :mauke_!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke NICK :mauke < 1388206505 913905 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388206596 298247 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388207524 466204 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388207641 957969 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388207663 3253 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: y no retweet for "decal of Calvin pissing on that Game of Life glider logo" < 1388207706 863257 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen too many of those with truck brands < 1388208004 526468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the joke, or something < 1388208081 171568 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a trauma < 1388208140 472171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok < 1388208265 269063 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calvin and Muad'dib is gone < 1388209830 857099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :current status: http://candyaddict.com/blog/candy_images/meiji_chocorooms.jpg < 1388209867 48642 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell yea < 1388209894 660471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bottom line: if you think candies that look like mushrooms are irresistibly cute, then Chocorooms are for you." douglass_ is like YEP YEP YEP YEP < 1388210106 870814 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are any C compilers supporting functions declared as "extern static"? I think not. < 1388210123 66432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do those mean < 1388210168 946374 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Considering that static means "not exported", to support such a construct would be a direct violation of the C specification. < 1388210215 661934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes, that is what I would think. < 1388210237 321538 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some might support having both keywords in a declaration, but it certainly wouldn't actually have both behaviors (since it can't) < 1388210427 612549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should specify in "Black-C", that it is allow "extern static", inside of a #master ... #endmaster block. If it is given the filename which is currently being compiled, then it is exported, otherwise it is external and always links to the named file, and other than that it acts like it is actually "static", even though it isn't. < 1388210495 543972 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388210603 58379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1388210615 295748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me more about Black-C and #master < 1388210735 727572 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example if you write #master "plain.c" and have a bunch of things declared "extern static", they act like static for most purposes but are actually belonging to the file "plain.o" (and name-mangling is applied, only in such a circumstance). One purpose would be to allow implementing run-time type identifications. < 1388210757 286351 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/black_c.txt < 1388210826 263106 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :long long long < 1388210855 342324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Structures do not have to have any members. Their size is zero if so." this is incompatible with C++ fwiw < 1388210894 991875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a "designated initializer"? < 1388210922 120799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't meant to be compatible with C++. However, that feature is compatible with GNU C. < 1388210938 261572 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is meant to be compatible with C, not C++. < 1388210948 45097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods
< 1388211022 626900 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is describing "designated initializer": http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Designated-Inits.html < 1388211100 759028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that < 1388211103 713086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1388211154 230422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int whitespace[256] = { [' '] = 1, ['\t'] = 1, ['\h'] = 1, ['\f'] = 1, ['\n'] = 1, ['\r'] = 1 }; < 1388211360 106530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, like that, too. < 1388211746 466909 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... i see people store boolean values in ints like that a lot in C < 1388211803 973122 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that usually a waste of space? why not store boolean values in chars and have them take up only one byte, guaranteed? < 1388211806 95078 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't a distinct boolean type, so... < 1388211813 958652 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1388211897 730499 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a bitfield, so it's one bit per, not one byte. < 1388211912 609796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'tisn't < 1388211924 812308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bietfield conspiracy < 1388211925 145977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think people don't like char for function parameters because in the dark ages there were no function prototypes, so the chars would get embiggened to ints anyway < 1388211938 623331 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't explain storing ints in an array like that < 1388211947 178821 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, derp, misread that, never mind. < 1388211948 488221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that would be considered bad style yeah < 1388211953 786141 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though on some machines it might be significantly faster < 1388211956 69289 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1388211959 949320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it depends on your constraints < 1388212224 660206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think it is good since then you can access it in a more easily kind of way, and yes since it can be faster, too < 1388212232 977426 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I don't consider it bad style < 1388212297 739066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be slower, too < 1388212351 669523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, depending what you are doing. < 1388213081 797968 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://isup.me/downforeveryoneorjustme.com < 1388213086 403474 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just so wrong < 1388213135 35609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo............................................................................................ < 1388213190 914165 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, it's completely impossible for DNS to get screwed up so that downforeveryoneorjustme.com stops working but isup.me doesn't? < 1388213232 47500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote domain name system < 1388213233 432749 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :982) ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again [...] Domain Name System [...] ♫ domain name system ♫ < 1388213387 787426 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388213449 443256 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388214117 116246 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388214207 832775 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.eff.org/document/quantum-surveillance-familiar-actors-and-possible-false-flags-syrian-malware-campaigns who needs crypto < 1388214279 238362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a kid getting beheaded on slide 9 D: < 1388214341 702591 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah there's warnings < 1388214361 434016 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably shouldn't be in a position to compare and contrast that with the heart-eater video, but here i am < 1388214370 443711 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: D: D: < 1388214730 263949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trebuchets and heart eating < 1388214740 881483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :old forms of warfare never fully die out do they < 1388214750 138327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see also iran & iraq bringing back trenches and poison gas in the 80s < 1388214766 7859 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was actually a liver, iirc, they just marketed it as a heart < 1388214773 691971 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eating livers just doesn't shock the people any more < 1388214790 86827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeez if you can't trust the guy eating human organs who can you trust anymore < 1388214790 308140 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. jihadists aren't good at anatomy < 1388214805 902972 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i, personally, once mistook a bird's testicles for its lungs < 1388214812 691801 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eating carnivore livers is supposed to be pretty bad for you < 1388214821 315405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if humans eat enough meat for that to be an issue < 1388214825 478091 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just sort of nibbled it, really. < 1388214837 138017 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm uh, probably shouldn't go into /too/ much detail here huh < 1388214839 966941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: https://twitter.com/miuaf/status/416802172295053312 < 1388214863 505560 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :humans are omnivores. i'd expect human liver to be (pathogen risk aside) much much safer than polar bear liver. < 1388214914 420371 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: there are some advantages to living down the street from a butcher < 1388214929 219097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there are three or four specialty meat shops near me < 1388214965 393927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as places like Low Cost Carnicería < 1388214968 912575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it Lo Cost? < 1388215006 492634 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's Low Cost Carnicería not to be confused with Lo-Cost Meat Market < 1388215335 385844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there also a Locust < 1388215411 945097 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388215440 513877 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Locust is no longer a popular meat. < 1388215450 150104 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame, really < 1388215474 651095 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also locusts, technically, are not reliably available, as they are only the swarming phase of the insect's life cycle. < 1388215492 432149 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The non-swarming phase is an inoffensive grasshopper or crickety thing that looks totally different. < 1388215503 467933 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! someone actually knows that! i love you. < 1388215518 941665 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're pretty easy to find in, like, madagascar though >_> < 1388215523 232573 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some locust species that may or may not be extinct, and we don't know because maybe they just haven't swarmed in the past hundred years. < 1388215548 303099 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(read about one in the Great Plains or maybe CO, forget the details) < 1388215548 491311 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hacked Minecraft Overviewer to render from the center outwards instead of from the top left corner. An interrupted render that demonstrates it: http://heh.fi/tmp/minecraft-test/#/74/64/-184/-6/0/0 < 1388215564 151883 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it was somewhere in the western US < 1388215574 236891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you read The Locusts by Niven and Barnes < 1388215579 508180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a p. strange short story < 1388215581 659172 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of reminded me of the lilac-smelling worms around here that we thought were extinct for fifty years < 1388215671 891170 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :WP says "Prior to its rediscovery in 2010, the worm was believed to give off a scent similar to that of the lily flower when handled[2] and that it was able to spit in self-defense;[3] however, the specimens captured did not exhibit these capabilities.[5]" < 1388215687 442464 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lily, lilac, w/e >_> < 1388215758 289657 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have not read that story < 1388215790 895639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me either < 1388215911 470429 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try cricket sometime though. < 1388215943 40835 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually when I try some weird thing that I've been pondering and avoiding for years it turns out pretty good. Like corn smut. < 1388216004 963804 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/16288 this is what almost any talk about neural networks looks like < 1388216023 377125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :JAVA < 1388216500 416748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up programming languages on Urban Dictionary
< 1388216614 702241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Praising Java for fitting on many platforms is like praising anal sex for fitting both sexes." see, < 1388216621 91040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these both seem like reasonable points to me. < 1388216945 294633 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :better replace that definition with a fictional sex position < 1388216977 283115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one involving coffee < 1388217019 286282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_enema < 1388217020 387930 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if there's a good joke to be made about coffee, duality, and sex work < 1388217036 620555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ineffective_cancer_treatments < 1388217108 672698 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i think 'coffee' 'enema' may be even higher on my 'why are these juxtaposed' list than 'decerebrate cat' 'anal sphincter' < 1388217169 645844 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a popular medical system devised by Ryke Geerd Hamer (1935 – ), in which all disease is seen as deriving from emotional shock, and mainstream medicine is regarded as a conspiracy promulgated by Jews" < 1388217206 176167 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool how on their faces it's hard to negatively compare these to 'tiny invisible animals are in your gut' < 1388217294 660956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1388217300 267487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiny invisible jews < 1388217357 655789 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plot of my steampunk time travel novel < 1388217428 444431 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"an alternative medicine regime promoted by Hulda Regehr Clark (1928–2009), who (before her death from cancer) claimed it could cure many human diseases, including cancer" this is just sad. < 1388217659 878413 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then she was probably wrong, if it didn't work for her. < 1388217693 472216 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible < 1388218285 870450 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :37-39 < 1388218293 709257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't supposed to say that. < 1388218332 114193 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1388218333 370533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 37 - 39 < 1388218334 572917 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -2 < 1388218337 678782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hizzie < 1388218354 888474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IRC input line is just too convenient for ephemeral notes. < 1388218423 569143 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also uh kellmc no that does not work < 1388218441 383729 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the middle? innovative. < 1388218483 616314 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hekmco, perhaps. < 1388218615 306929 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388218935 857110 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388219208 892031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goin' to sleep < 1388219210 261470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all < 1388220503 86786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1388221342 389586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i thought "there is more to life than this" was from shakespeare or something but it turns out to be the name of a self-help book by a spirit talker, so, nevermind <-- i see no contradiction between the two substatements. although admittedly shakespeare does not seem to turn up in several pages of the google hits. (björk does.) < 1388221380 82165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell bike i thought "there is more to life than this" was from shakespeare or something but it turns out to be the name of a self-help book by a spirit talker, so, nevermind <-- i see no contradiction between the two substatements. although admittedly shakespeare does not seem to turn up in several pages of the google hits. (björk does.) < 1388221380 270267 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388221473 81617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell bike trying to add shakespeare just gives the "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." quote < 1388221473 309694 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388221640 280685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia Tubasteuerkarte <-- i have a hunch "Karte" is the wrong kind of board here. < 1388221640 468847 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388221857 765776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia Anyway a little experimentation in google translate finds the _clearly_ proper term: Tubaüberwachungsausschuß < 1388221857 993796 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388221877 14446 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1388221985 420816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia supposedly s/ß/ss/ nowadays, but we're talking the third Reich here. < 1388221985 609129 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388222037 948231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia Sie ist seit der Reform von 1996 nicht mehr korrekt. ;_; < 1388222038 136268 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388222951 509548 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388225023 885527 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ss, yeah < 1388225059 431308 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ß replaces ss when preceeded by a long vowel. < 1388225065 501375 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays. < 1388226725 861093 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388227467 386286 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aßhole < 1388228360 84301 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ſ/ß/ss/ < 1388228513 708586 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess ß/A/B/ is NOP? < 1388228943 328629 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388229767 879042 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388229865 898414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388230509 876947 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388230971 686717 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a great idea recently < 1388230994 404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know how git produces long, meaningless hashes to name commits, which is much more complex than just using revision numbers? < 1388231003 925907 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn35-042.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388231011 413305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how it typically expresses them as abbreviated hashes, that only contain the first seven nybbles? < 1388231047 394818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly, we need a rebase-like command that renumbers all the commits to have abbreviated hashes starting 0000001, 0000002, 0000003, etc. in order < 1388231063 419455 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the range of 7 nybbles is approximately 0 to 250 million < 1388231072 233684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably in the range of what a modern computer can bruteforce < 1388231078 375521 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who’s the authority on revision numbers in a distributed setting? < 1388231091 945805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's like BASIC < 1388231097 43372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just renumber it whenever you feel like it < 1388231112 321639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so everyone can be their own authority < 1388231143 148180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so long as you do your changes via changing metadata, git's duplicated-tree detector will remove most of the bad effects of the changes in hashes < 1388231222 731036 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388231227 76340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway this is a terrible idea < 1388231237 850932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wanted to bring it up because this is a good channel to air terrible ideas in < 1388231254 817160 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388231670 846256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideas great and terrible, check < 1388233303 496226 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388234447 948819 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388234469 149018 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fungot < 1388234469 337256 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: or just eat veggies which takes more planning < 1388234478 854402 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, or that < 1388234569 641311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: but veggies are satanic, i just saw it on youtube! < 1388234574 654388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sentence almost looked sensible until I tried to read it < 1388234674 852518 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388234713 205651 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1388234713 393786 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1388234792 252855 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I think it should be "take more planning", since veggies is plural < 1388234820 58226 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :grammar, fungot... grammar and s:es < 1388234820 334982 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: tu mama esta fnord en fnord fnord ollenkaan, ko mie fnord mennä fnord. fnord < 1388234876 550226 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the which could refer to the eating of vegetables? < 1388234912 110864 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...or just eat your vegetables, which, admittedly, takes more planning. < 1388234934 106302 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1388234995 518823 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually eating vegetables takes a surprising amount of planning right now < 1388235011 368438 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they don't store very long and the supermarkets seem low on stock post-Christmas < 1388235026 719938 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure that's what fungot meant < 1388235026 979241 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: have you ever been to europe? what kind? what's it supposed to run for food... will show code after the if statement < 1388235055 756425 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surprisingly relevant < 1388235073 862249 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i actually just visited my home 0 moments ago. (and france last week.) < 1388235119 751686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, fungot brought back bad memories of being unable to find food I could eat in France < 1388235119 954286 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: eval ( !-inf)) will just put the traveling ip to sleep < 1388235140 509292 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why was that hard? < 1388235142 541317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%d\n", !-(1.0/0.0)); < 1388235148 916612 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1388235163 611617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: because I have some dietary restrictions and pretty much everything in the supermarket either violated them, or needed some sort of utensil to prepare < 1388235165 23854 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you are a veggieist, given your three last messages except the last < 1388235167 293849 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which weren't available in my hotel room < 1388235183 657319 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not actually vegetarian, but I have a similarly restrictive diet < 1388235223 629303 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of luls, religion or physiology? < 1388235229 438546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I was younger, I basically had to eat generic food paste until they figured out what I could eat or not < 1388235232 48455 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so physiology < 1388235255 22967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, the doctor said something along the lines of "you can tell if someone needs that stuff by whether they can tolerate eating it") < 1388235268 705655 :Guest60043!~sea@119.154.111.94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388235345 788198 :Guest60043!~sea@119.154.111.94 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388235350 720427 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although perhaps sensibly, they started testing cereals first, having rice and oats to fall back on helps a lot (also wheat and potatoes are almost perfectly OK too) < 1388235392 859474 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1388235396 747964 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had no idea < 1388235409 579041 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in sweden you can find pickled potatoes that are ready to eat < 1388235412 652205 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually most things turned out to be OK < 1388235421 794920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even more are OK in small quantities < 1388235426 82805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't take much concentration nowadays < 1388235457 683158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most commonly occurring problem is with milk/cheese (milk is OK in small quantities, especially if cooked, but causes trouble if there are a lot; cheese is worse) < 1388235470 709889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I had to stop eating the croissants after a while because they were made with too much butter < 1388235596 346212 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My uncle as a gluten not-allergy-but-kind-of-like-an-allergy-we-have-no-idea-what-it-actually-is < 1388235740 711965 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kind of relevant < 1388235744 446304 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the normal gluten "allergy" is just intolerance, iirc < 1388235755 299362 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, his is actually a mystery < 1388235766 914236 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn35-042.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388235772 821776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I have intolerances, rather than allergies < 1388235774 172331 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they were all mysterious, but there may be several different kinds anyway < 1388235798 190162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the difference being a) it's much more quantity-dependent than with allergies; b) it's less likely to be life-threatening if you screw up < 1388236004 722115 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388236323 689732 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only ate kebab in france < 1388236369 948016 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean like döner < 1388236383 632936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an umlaut on that in French/Finnish? < 1388236397 194889 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in finnish it's called kebab < 1388236411 169154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I mean döner < 1388236412 108486 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i know there's an umlaut in germany where that word is used < 1388236422 468920 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no "döner" in finland < 1388236424 478212 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :When someone says "kebab" to me I still think shish kebab < 1388236430 268640 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in france i think it was called kebab < 1388236431 193908 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because we sometimes make them at home < 1388236442 819005 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but americans mean something else by that < 1388236467 851275 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess shish kebab < 1388236496 254873 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what it's called in america but maybe doner then? uk i have no idea about < 1388236513 716391 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't even know if they have that in the us) < 1388236544 163900 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in finland i haven't seen shish kebab anywhere < 1388236554 688424 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388236599 336651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: we have both doner and shish in the UK, but no accents < 1388236608 153531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't eat kebabs so I have no idea what the difference is, if any < 1388236621 637059 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most people think of doner first < 1388236668 783892 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik shish kebab is meat on a stick, and doner is meat between two loaves of bread (so in some sense in the hamburger family, although looks and tastes very different) < 1388236702 918206 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has to be fried to be a kebab? < 1388236703 339679 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think doner refers to the spinning blob of meat that the kebab is cut from < 1388236724 449855 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i have had discussions with americans about kebab and they never work very well < 1388236733 644575 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it comes from the turkish word for spinning, says wikipedia) < 1388236742 630748 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc kebab means something like cow? < 1388236758 383770 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or like beef < 1388236853 930528 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In American English, kebab with no qualification refers to shish kebab (Turkish: şiş kebap) cooked on a skewer,[1] whereas in Europe it refers to doner kebab, sliced meat served in a pita. < 1388236951 302313 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :k probably not, but i seem to recall something meant something funny or surprising in some language. < 1388236964 839223 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-157.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388236970 979772 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to Sevan Nişanyan, an etymologist of Turkish language, kebab is derived from the Arabic word "kabab" meaning "fry". < 1388237014 669630 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finally decided to read the next sentence
< 1388237197 941660 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388237366 838176 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-157.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388237715 916179 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388238207 929502 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388238226 304040 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388238323 224425 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1388239553 976477 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388239645 988405 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, is there anything like scanf in Rust? < 1388239679 665940 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388240016 283600 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, I'm not kmc but I know there is no such thing, I needed to write my own scanner routine myself < 1388240025 645551 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1388240029 854308 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you < 1388240075 661194 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good lifthrasiir-is-alive morning! < 1388240655 880404 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388243125 958285 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388245006 914927 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388245346 313891 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42866.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388245498 612825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily < 1388245510 836873 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good kmorningc. < 1388245628 821574 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: good investment opportunity! /r/dogecoin is the subreddit of the day! < 1388245685 870956 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388246238 163310 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388246622 539742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1388247023 399146 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll make altgr+g into dead greek < 1388247038 285289 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I can't find a greek shift or greek lock < 1388247053 377561 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :guten morgen. < 1388247059 466304 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, poke < 1388247112 350357 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I think you need something more forceful than a poke in order to grab his attention. < 1388247116 747298 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lends his mapole to Taneb
< 1388247133 446043 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, poke with a maypole < 1388247186 261690 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42866.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388247321 807607 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. doesn't work. < 1388247336 465208 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lends Taneb a depleted-oak warhead mapole
< 1388247368 93297 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, poke with a depleted-oak warhead maypole < 1388247450 197053 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42866.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388247549 342056 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: what are you messing with+ < 1388247551 497058 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :?* < 1388247551 695546 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1388247553 317824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1388247569 53912 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There's also the issue that it's hard to carry a dead deer on a bicycle." -- douglass_ < 1388247623 664993 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I want to try and read two ints separated with a space from stdin. How do I go about that in Rust? < 1388247631 910238 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot answers to “v”? < 1388247656 931266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... don't do much IO < 1388247667 143767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask irc.mozilla.org #rust < 1388247700 16484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I literally understand how to make HTTP requests and draw with OpenGL but not how to read two ints < 1388247716 126316 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1388247868 486956 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaah I am not used to having a bouncer < 1388247880 406282 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how to connect to a new server through my bouncer < 1388248058 342720 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there we go < 1388248657 364925 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I want to be able to write greek characters < 1388248663 847175 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as alpha or mu < 1388248668 410287 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I can already write mu < 1388248804 614817 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: with xkb you can abuse having a second Group and use ISO_Group_Latch to shift between them < 1388248818 301383 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I do: https://bitbucket.org/firefly/dotfiles/src/tip/xkb/firefly.symbols?at=default < 1388248873 342525 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :See lines 29 and 126-156 < 1388248949 54339 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could work too, but is more work than making altgr+g be dead_greek < 1388248961 882049 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I probably won't be needing to write more than one greek symbol at once < 1388248993 931508 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice keyboard diagram < 1388249048 40646 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pbzgotzvmglozali QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388249078 201807 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1388249255 955004 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bzpwunpznktymilr JOIN :#esoteric < 1388249342 124783 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: woah. that is some intense keyboarding you got there! how do you compile and use it? < 1388249495 245519 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just have /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/firefly symlink'd to it and configure my layout as 'firefly' < 1388249609 300010 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf I have 'Option "XkbLayout" "firefly"' < 1388249761 745642 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shamelessly set my keyboard layout in .xinitrc >_>'... < 1388249795 767175 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1388249935 454838 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oh. it isn't C. it's a special format. no compilation necessary.) < 1388250003 102489 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a poorly-documented special format < 1388250011 950685 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1388250016 750020 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.charvolant.org/~doug/xkb/html/xkb.html is basically what I've found on it < 1388250079 394522 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1388250124 390247 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I suppose that the first xkb_symbols block declared in the file is the one you get by entering “setxkbmap ”, and that you get the other blocks with “setxkbmap -variant ”. < 1388250154 555102 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or, maybe “default partial” means something. you never know.) < 1388250890 159928 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :partial means that it's not defining a full layout, but only part of one (like, only the numpad area or only the letter keys or something) < 1388250903 647796 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember if default was honoured or if it always took the first oe < 1388250905 254248 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :one* < 1388252803 516833 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"make altgr+g into dead greek" very philosophical. < 1388252814 955951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The joke is there are lots of dead Greek philosophers.) < 1388252973 771795 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn αλτγρ+γ is the national dead pastry of Greece. Goes great with a glass of ouzo! < 1388252979 253408 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1388252993 6718 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, let's see if I can latexify it... < 1388253000 796326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Which kind of a bounc-o-matic you chose? < 1388253005 89455 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just curious.) < 1388253041 740550 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ZNC < 1388253047 274274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hokay. < 1388253296 461317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I just came from the 60-year birthday party of my wife's father, and there was a (quasi-)Famous Band there, it was kind of surprising. People were surprised. (Not, like, famous famous, just sort of middlingly famous, I guess. The "50k twitter followers" kind of famous.) < 1388253383 58558 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess that's how it's measured these days.) < 1388253588 973019 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would someone design an application, that requires network connectivy to close it < 1388253607 624207 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you have to restart it, when it lost connectivity < 1388254203 840610 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you have a workplace overlooking the st. lawrence seaway < 1388254215 49078 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388254220 153046 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388254303 421591 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: tell me a joke < 1388254379 160767 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan you don't have to use this to send me messages. i'm always in here and pings are recorded when i'm away. not that telling you this will stop you from annoying me with lambdabot messages. < 1388254379 362375 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388254452 801193 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no. yes. < 1388254453 188107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia Now you're just asking for it. < 1388254453 392240 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388254604 403750 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: here is a dadjoke while I try to remember a better one: He broke this one out when teaching me about tools. // "Okay, so this is the screwdriver, this is the wrenche, and this, well, you know the drill." < 1388254666 95348 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily's dad joke level just increased. < 1388254864 788224 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: here is a Canadian joke: Tim Horton, famous hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs, and founder of the wildly famous donut and coffee store; Tim Hortons. One day he was driving through the streets of St. Catharines Ontario extremly drunk. He went under the lake St. Overpass at around 150Kmh in his car and hit a support column. He and his car were obliterated. To this day, you can still find < 1388254866 804455 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tim-Bits everywhere. < 1388255229 307173 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: some day, I'll be a dad. when my kids will misbehave, I'll scold them with Bad Monad Tutorials. < 1388255245 296338 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are going to kill those kids. < 1388255258 599551 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's taking it too far. < 1388255261 202544 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388255270 633252 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should scold them by quoting fungot instead < 1388255271 141627 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: also every time the named let so you can use !whatever, where the number of characters < 1388255293 936391 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that's not terribly threatening though < 1388255294 255501 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: and how can the histogram of integer sizes have so many hits per page, if it is used for quite a while back, < 1388255401 916410 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42866.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388255418 313393 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42866.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388255485 380405 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see myself saying “HOW CAN THE HISTOGRAM OF INTEGER SIZES HAVE SO MANY HITS PER PAGE!” in a stern voice. that'll surely teach them. < 1388255600 9083 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-35-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388255680 536282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1388255680 738696 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1388255683 397282 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388255689 576873 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Can that sword alone stop boily's kids from misbehaving? < 1388255689 782599 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: in the middle ages, sir slush!... you're gaspar, the guru of time! get moving! behold! the rainbow shell! < 1388255711 277377 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388255730 678846 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please answer your Creator. it's the least of the courtesies. < 1388255730 876088 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: these unique items make us invincible! < 1388255746 321610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: That's just a direct quote. < 1388255746 520460 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! sorry, fellas! i'm empty! this must be the invention. hope it still leaves you hungry! here you are the only one thing we need to defeat a monster that roams the inner earth, absorbing the land's power and growing ever stronger the resemblance...uncanny! you guys leaving! < 1388255827 217316 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hope it still leaves you hungry!" what a nice sentiment. < 1388255931 859198 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-35-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388255974 913714 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388256063 2346 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42866.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388256137 396852 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42866.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388256321 742558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can fizzie live on bread alone? < 1388256322 122392 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! go!! what about me. they just might be the one to bring back lost loved ones... it's what that guy in medina, a village near the mystic mountain" 65,000,000 b. c.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1388256334 720095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow boring say something new < 1388256344 954330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1388256345 153528 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1388256353 12225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :speeches < 1388256356 798606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style speeches < 1388256357 4364 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: speeches (misc. speeches from Project Gutenberg) < 1388256385 181511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's not that much data in the ct style. < 1388256389 965768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: let's play the speech recognition game < 1388256390 594259 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: when i appeared before a committee of twenty-one members should be given to the lecture platform and tell all about it. < 1388256399 569856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is an expert < 1388256427 965456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I AM TALKING VERY SLOWLY AND CLEARLY CAN YOU UNDERSTAND ME < 1388256428 584802 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it suggests melancholy reflections, in consequence of any law or regulation therein be discharged from the exercise of that profession is, that he remained through his whole career will not be adequately remunerated if he is to answer on the part of the subject? he is, wrote only one letter to the clergy?" < 1388256446 481089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fizzie you have to recognize fungot's speeches < 1388256446 680650 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ii. to constituents. ( arbroath, october 21, 1907) < 1388256469 935283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, spoilsport < 1388256489 404366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think that last one was that one from Arbroath, October 21, 1907. < 1388256507 350666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember what went into "speeches". < 1388256618 982855 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you have the raw files laying around? < 1388256684 961216 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or lieing. I can't remember for the fungot of me what is the correct verb. < 1388256685 202252 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: from a letter to wm. h. rogers by the business men of norfolk, fnord. power, etc. < 1388256705 895985 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord. power. ayn rand. fungot. rogers. < 1388256706 315847 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: " still as you rise, the state of missouri. i have not received more than i deserve, is this a sort of fnord, brought into the house of commons < 1388256717 704832 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The around-laying is a lie < 1388256746 71389 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fnord, in the house of commons?! < 1388256746 433574 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: but in the place of your retiring president. i shall be surprised to hear the judge, as i have told you what he knows. we have regulated that which we should be affected with anything, he must go a hundred and fifty years ago all roads in new england who still continued to face the facts. < 1388258870 107357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1388258969 480147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-flood < 1388258969 720719 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 1h 16m 30s ago: you don't have to use this to send me messages. i'm always in here and pings are recorded when i'm away. not that telling you this will stop you from annoying me with lambdabot messages. < 1388258995 292396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: depends on if i can remember it. < 1388259195 341751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i don't trust people in general to check whether they've had pings. < 1388259267 533661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: also i have a bit of ocp?d about information getting lost. < 1388259617 845572 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ocd < 1388259618 574347 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ocd definition: obsessive-compulsive disorder. < 1388259736 492423 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck fomo < 1388259736 997063 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1388259740 374623 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck FOMO < 1388259740 948995 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1388259752 109411 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fomo < 1388259837 865445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1388260003 401709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : kmc, poke with a depleted-oak warhead maypole <-- * oerjan smells an evil autocorrect < 1388260234 945940 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a joek. < 1388260256 955137 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines a fantasy battlescape, where the Chimæric Words struggle against the Evil Autocorrectians
< 1388260280 136836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION throws Bike in gaol
< 1388260282 881515 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: horatio is what i was thinking of anyway < 1388260293 604026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1388260363 847843 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so deep. < 1388260824 864371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ++ < 1388260827 271605 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+002B PLUS SIGN] [U+002B PLUS SIGN] < 1388260843 347294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lolmythesis.com/ < 1388260847 760152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow they looked different in my browser. < 1388260852 202945 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good blog < 1388260893 802358 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Built software development tools for an alternate reality that forked off in 1980." hey, it's sgeo < 1388260931 8306 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of wish they'd link the actual paper but i guess that fucks with anonymity and also noone reads theses < 1388260940 32987 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you guys think we can spot fizzie's thesis in there? < 1388260957 276086 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Rats like cocaine", i bet < 1388260986 355604 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what are you working on, again? < 1388261005 743203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: also all PL research < 1388261041 856083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Anselm’s ontological proof for God’s existence completely fails because he literally didn’t understand basic grammar." < 1388261051 46690 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1388261110 867664 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grammar is the problem? < 1388261112 278803 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Lasers make really pretty shit when you pass them through funky glass. Also, chemistry makes pretty colors.” ← sounds a lot like my bro's internship. < 1388261194 898298 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can’t understand what hillly cities look like in two dimensions. < 1388261242 202864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh I think I forgot to respond to your poke, what was it? < 1388261270 530512 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooh! one from Université du Québec à Montréal! “Money is a much more complicated thing than you think it is and the modern financial system is in the process of screwing it real good.” < 1388261274 48986 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Brain cells are really cool. Zebrafish. People have schizophrenia. Count ALL THE THINGS. Cell death. Fish death. STERILE! Significance. Yeah." see now we're talking < 1388261314 741084 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Also, 10 nanometers sounds really big now" < 1388261466 896116 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the one about tricky meditation. I think I can pull that one off in our next RPG campaign. :D < 1388261574 617256 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tricky meditation? < 1388261597 166431 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: “If you want to trick someone into meditating, all you have to do is turn the lights completely off, suspend their body, and get them to DJ ambient sounds using their breath.” < 1388261642 348181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Would they need to know DJ? < 1388261656 788313 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388261669 71244 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we should all spend ages investigating a phenomenon in a non ecologically valid manner and then conclude that we found out nothing about it" there's a half-decent chance i know who submitted this one... < 1388261712 731168 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: minor detail. I'll wing it over either a fortitude or a nature check. yeah. probably going to go with the nature check. < 1388261715 294129 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Reech specognition. < 1388261777 480296 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: OK < 1388261779 532918 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that one sounds like a mahjong declaration... < 1388261819 580422 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: as long as I entertain the GM, and can write something nonsensical in the Journals, it'll slide like a hot knife in a pound of yak butter. < 1388261828 598492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: And I lost a couple of them datasets that went into fungot accidentally. Some I still have. < 1388261828 857170 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: orestes, the greek highwayman. the crimes were not all the safeguards of liberty known in civilized and humane jurisprudence to be introduced, so that before i got started. it takes a genius in compression to compact as many facts as that. < 1388261893 402966 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: very misfortune. such disgrace. < 1388261893 967832 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: caesar lifted his head at the salutation. his air of deep abstraction fnord and he found one which united all that was stately and venerable in the antique manners, without fnord is of immemorial antiquity among us. it does not break down or derange the scheme of bringing our court to a resemblance to the neighbouring monarchies, it was not in the inns of court and in the unfettered exercise of their own mother tongue, t < 1388261911 949288 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1388261912 583660 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches* ss wp youtube < 1388261915 853157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1388261916 59300 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1388261943 326702 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"p > 0.05" < 1388261962 247040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : or lieing. I can't remember for the fungot of me what is the correct verb. <-- i suspect "lying" hth < 1388261962 603505 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: probably nothing like what you may have been due to these flaws i will not implement fnord do not fnord on this < 1388261990 91538 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Write something nonsensical in the Journals? < 1388261993 542164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i will not implement fnord do not fnord on this" is a good motto to live by. < 1388262052 178654 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm the Secretary of Our Campaigns, writing down everything Stupid we do, in a... uhm... deconstructed manner. < 1388262056 734012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord not lest you be fnorded < 1388262145 91116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: O, OK. Well, in the D&D game I am in, I type everything, even if it isn't stupid. < 1388262188 908686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also record the character sheets) < 1388262231 943995 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I try to be sufficiently accurate so if I made some mistake anyone can notice, I should fix it. < 1388262268 168454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if only one person can notice it? < 1388262305 150018 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It doesn't matter as long as they can tell me about it. < 1388262316 398657 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FNORD! < 1388262316 599741 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think I sent you some character sheets some time ago, didn't I? < 1388262316 809384 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's not a mistake. < 1388262335 347238 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, 2 minute lag. interesting effect in the logs...) < 1388262375 317610 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think you may have done, but I didn't keep the copy. < 1388262439 863517 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you keep on computer and print it out, or synchronize the copy in the computer with the paper like I did instead? < 1388262472 985768 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeeeh... my GM and/or another player does that. < 1388262545 738683 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I need to fix the macro file so that it will split the spell levels into multiple rows if necessary, which it is. < 1388263136 800162 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I realized I also failed to mention how many 5th-level slots I have. < 1388264076 473378 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Too much weather to explain in just nine words--maybe in twelve--nope, not even in seventeen." < 1388264097 481045 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only segment of The Onion that I really dislike are the audio reports < 1388264329 776946 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42866.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388264390 696493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone badly needs our help http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20817113/how-to-read-character-in-whitespace-language < 1388264509 541375 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell compiler 5.02??? < 1388264518 781620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one might guess that stackoverflow doesn't handle tabs well. < 1388264553 853285 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I improved the page layout for the character sheets now. < 1388264583 709720 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a better haskell implementation now? < 1388264599 190262 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I looked at the whitespace interpreter, it used lists for *everything* < 1388264603 927776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well it's the one the implementation is mentioned to work with... < 1388264606 370951 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmaukello. < 1388264613 850459 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :opcodes? list. < 1388264617 443138 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, but... GHC 7.6? < 1388264618 224939 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :stacks? list. < 1388264627 769579 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :dynamic memory? list. < 1388264649 564790 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it used integer indices for everything, so just stepping through the opcodes was O(n²) < 1388264659 613730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: with the way ghc has changed the current ghc might very well not compile whitespace. not that i've tested. < 1388264698 509943 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh. as in, directly compiling whitespace with no haskell intermediary? < 1388264729 495467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: i do not suspect efficiency was a major consideration. < 1388264743 4979 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but the code really was stupidly slow < 1388264765 996583 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :it made solving spoj.pl exercises in whitespace close to impossible < 1388264851 927369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: ok lists and indexing is of course stupid. < 1388264942 672964 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyway, I wrote an assembler/disassembler and a (still stupid but hella) faster interpreter < 1388264999 550507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a link < 1388265042 418057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we can add it to esolang. < 1388265087 971715 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: did someone `relcome you yet? < 1388265101 285993 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: probably. was that the one with colors? < 1388265162 208607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wikipedia has a nice github link < 1388265176 680872 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: if you identify `relcomming with colours, then yes. < 1388265191 989998 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mauke.hopto.org/stuff/whitespace/ but that's not a permanent link < 1388265282 228414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: is yours in the github collection? i added that instead. < 1388265313 795957 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :what github collection? < 1388265320 715221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm getting too good at this social media thing < 1388265323 846773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/hostilefork/whitespacers/ < 1388265325 373646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't trust my opinions if they're too popular < 1388265391 536099 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, it's not in there < 1388265392 588076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: oh. as in, directly compiling whitespace with no haskell intermediary? <-- no, as in compiling the whitespace interpreter < 1388265480 688691 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh. I am disappoint. < 1388265508 749567 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how would you rate your own trustiness on the Fungot-Ørjan scale? < 1388265512 421598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's from 2003 and seems to be plain haskell 98. < 1388265538 569855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, i'm on the opposite side of fungot? < 1388265538 851983 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: though i admit it's not exactly quoted, but very important, i've just been trying to find < 1388265558 801236 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: have you heard of a man called markov? < 1388265559 36095 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: telnet irc.freenode.net 6667 -c unlambda blah blah blah < 1388265611 419443 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: fungot is kinda the mascot of the channel. < 1388265611 623314 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i suggest c and/ or < 1388265622 354055 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: also c, according to it. < 1388265683 559502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i am not convinced that telnet command works. < 1388265683 824230 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: context fnord input); fnord fnord dove fog. < 1388265708 274866 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: print STDOUT q / Just another Perl hacker, / unless $spring < 1388265708 471811 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: come on! < 1388265757 323542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you see the fnords? < 1388265757 574285 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm not voicing a concern, i wouldn't try to psychoanalyze you all the answers! < 1388265844 757922 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: as you can see, the bot is strangely sentient. < 1388265934 648012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: thanks, I hate it when people do that < 1388265934 879241 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fnord not mainstream programs? :) i use the precise gc do better? i want to < 1388266060 678700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that store function is something to behold. < 1388266464 501182 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388266764 920384 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388266817 782046 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388267296 61092 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, fizzie you there? You have some ffmpeg-fu right? < 1388267305 318343 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Quit: FOOOOOOOOD! < 1388267314 465169 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388267365 212399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done some things with it, but maybe "-fu" is overstating things. < 1388267387 159231 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I basically have a single large music file (mp3) and a list of timecodes and want to split the file at those time codes. < 1388267403 344297 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I have Debian so not really real ffmepg < 1388267412 782270 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :but avcode or whatever it is called < 1388267432 531019 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"avconv", and I'm not entirely sure you can convince avconv to do it losslessly. < 1388267442 512287 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you do it with ffmpeg? < 1388267453 969469 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could build the real deal if that is required < 1388267480 771985 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't really differ all that much. And it's possible it's smart enough to do it, I'm just not quite sure. < 1388267621 225834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be something like avconv -ss 123 -t 42 -i input.mp3 -codec copy output.mp3 to take a snippet of 42 seconds starting at 123 seconds in. < 1388267631 417044 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah I forgot, I built ffmpeg into ~/local/ffmpeg some time ago < 1388267636 642203 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I do have the real deal < 1388267683 294297 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Ah, so time to write a program to compute a time code like 1:20:23:41 Start of this section\n1:21:... and turn it into that < 1388267692 356962 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python script time! < 1388267706 309121 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both arguments can take 1:2:3.4 hour:minute:second.fraction formats. < 1388267720 65713 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But you would still need to compute the duration between two timestamps.) < 1388267724 910453 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1388267728 953381 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So still needs a script < 1388267758 506687 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I had terrible experience with -codec copy in the past not doing what I want < 1388267765 449302 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll give it a try < 1388267781 204909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :sox can extract something given absolute start and end positions, if I recall correctly, but I'm reasonably sure sox especially won't do it without re-encoding. < 1388267794 300337 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds likely < 1388267837 104388 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, after I fixed my glx kernel module (it wasn't compiled for the current kernel!), flash video in full screen no longer works < 1388267867 870248 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So whatever fall back driver X uses when fglrx isn't loaded, works with flash < 1388267868 742857 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh < 1388267885 11630 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388267894 837744 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. I tested the line above on a random mp3, and it seems to have done the start seek properly but not the duration limit. < 1388267906 600083 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1388267909 676255 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that is silly < 1388267930 811223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, command line argument order strikes again. < 1388267943 368004 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1388267946 342437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need avconv -ss 123 -i input.mp3 -t 42 -codec copy out.mp3 instead. < 1388267948 89880 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate utilities like that < 1388267957 782646 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1388267959 661215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the duration limit is an "output" kind of an argument. < 1388267962 240658 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes little sense < 1388267968 209239 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh < 1388267974 839303 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And whatever you specify before an -i option is specific for that input, or some-such. < 1388267984 791888 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1388268005 540468 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even better: the -ss can go both before or after the -i and will do a subtly different thing. :p < 1388268020 58152 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm would this work on an mp4 from youtube as well, I need that too, not sure what audio codec thoses uses (nor any idea how to find out) < 1388268043 912035 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388268080 49673 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the formats that go in an MP4 container are all AAC on the audio. < 1388268093 182539 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1388268191 598050 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is AAC < 1388268196 252170 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to vlc < 1388268247 540384 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :LinearInterpol < 1388268288 845848 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ ~/local/ffmpeg/bin/ffmpeg < 1388268289 35088 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /home/arvid/.cache/keyring-z7nSMy/pkcs11: No such file or directory < 1388268291 925497 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fuck < 1388268299 299791 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it trying to do gnome keyring!? < 1388268418 473844 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'LET "1:20:23.41 Start of this section\\n1:21:34.56 etc" ~ "{d!+}:{d!+}:{d!+.!d!+}.+{d!+}:{d!+}:{d!+.!d!+}"\n\\0+(60*(\\1+60*\\2))-\\3-(60*(\\4+60*\\5))_"' | ploki < 1388268420 95831 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :71.1500000000005 < 1388268447 795784 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is ploki? < 1388268463 576842 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how good time-domain accuracy you'll get out of it with -codec copy, since (AIUI) MP3 hasn't really been designed for extracting individual frames; there's some inter-frame dependencies. (If I ever knew the details, I've forgotten them.) < 1388268482 551597 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :ploki is love, ploki is life < 1388268489 73495 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what about aac? < 1388268500 627660 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke, Something more useful? < 1388268508 88319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I got a file 10.3 seconds long with -t 10.) < 1388268516 641130 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's a programming language < 1388268519 895136 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.130.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388268520 83744 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.130.105 QUIT :Changing host < 1388268520 83884 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388268523 541198 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke, paradigm? < 1388268536 113796 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks of the unreadable sort from that < 1388268540 284122 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are my options? < 1388268558 318966 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke, the usual? < 1388268569 295150 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1388268581 440753 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :functional/imperative, oop/not-oop and so on < 1388268583 420892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ffmpeg and avconv are unlikely to have major functionality differences afaik < 1388268593 936344 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :imperative < 1388268594 201584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather they probably both have some things the other doesn't have at any given time? < 1388268601 978775 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah okay, then what was the bloody point of the fork? < 1388268615 623583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :open source development politics < 1388268622 563722 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right. < 1388268626 614216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ffmpeg pulls in like half the libav commits unchanged nowadays or something < 1388268639 800163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think libav has the more momentum if only because Debian etc. use it < 1388268640 739327 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And avconv the same? < 1388268647 336363 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1388268648 500895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's so much the other way around, but I don't know that much < 1388268651 360843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just read a blog post about it < 1388268661 592655 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :All this over indentation and braces? ;) < 1388268687 772132 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I don't really care what the conflict is about < 1388268761 339228 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Got 10.9 seconds with "-t 10" for extracting some AAC audio from a youtube-dl .mp4 file. < 1388268795 93542 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So okay, I can just forget non-lossy then < 1388268873 321947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want exact time resolution. At the very least, it's going to have to be rounded at the frame boundaries of the audio codec. < 1388268887 685561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Kind of like you need to speak in 8x8 blocks for lossless JPEG operations.) < 1388268964 539093 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes < 1388269044 900695 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ē < 1388269046 875221 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0113 LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH MACRON] < 1388269080 893598 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ω̈ < 1388269082 893547 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+03C9 GREEK SMALL LETTER OMEGA] [U+0308 COMBINING DIAERESIS] < 1388269119 449326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH MACARONI AND CHEESE < 1388269158 105805 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :never has a character been so delicious. < 1388269203 422909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Going to sleep, I think; been a long day.) < 1388269372 600889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines fizzie dreaming about chasing edible symbols
< 1388269687 963396 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388269968 130398 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1388270212 892703 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1388270396 732396 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really dislike the iterators of python < 1388270401 91888 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are too limited < 1388270448 933897 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is obj oriented, so you can make your own! :P < 1388270464 324954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: How do they work, and how is it limited? < 1388270480 659135 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no support for iterators that support going backwards and forwards. In C++ terms they would basically be input iterators I believe < 1388270498 275168 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388270518 42711 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, if I want to look at the next item in the iterator without removing it from the iterator (i.e. a peek function), can't do it < 1388270545 946771 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, yes, but it won't integrate into the "for x in foo" syntax. I would have to do my own while loop over it < 1388270581 527843 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :__iter__ < 1388270583 913992 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case, why don't I just do a in_list = list(input_iter); for i in range(len(in_list)): or some such < 1388270607 313698 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nucular, pretty sure that i wouldn't be able to access a peek function even if I added one in that case? < 1388270716 585090 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends on how you implement your iterator < 1388270774 443006 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm I guess I could create some wrapped object that forwarded most of the calls to the underlying object and then do "for e in my_collection: ... e.next()" < 1388270780 927969 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds annoying though < 1388270872 221899 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard you can even subclass generator and set __iter__ to an instance of that subclass < 1388270902 703191 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh that is a cool idea, but I think doing an range iterator is easier since this is a pretty short one-off script < 1388270948 490661 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1388272141 551888 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a good python IDE? I just use IDLE mostly, but it is kind of bad at figuring out completion suggestions. Understandable giben the dynamic typing < 1388272200 214933 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like the wxPython Py suite but I only use Sublime Text 2 < 1388272215 905988 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :given* < 1388272220 55759 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm okay < 1388272285 372236 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You can look at Editra, it's slightly based on the Py suite and also written in Python + wx < 1388272338 873161 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388272359 179015 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1388272371 460089 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm! < 1388272422 949797 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used it for a long time before I found out about ST2 < 1388272443 26656 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone keeps telling me to use ST2. < 1388272477 574782 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe because you should :P < 1388272517 126391 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why. it's not free or open source last I checked. < 1388272559 75875 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1388272565 284025 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard sublime is good though < 1388272568 692045 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never tried it myself < 1388272577 259619 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few people at work uses it < 1388272580 91802 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :It only randomly shows a message box at every tenth saving action if unregistered < 1388272585 931862 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly use emacs instead < 1388272609 662228 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nucular, ouch, I tend to save quite often < 1388272615 781577 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1388272649 708611 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually more like at every 20th but meh < 1388272778 500914 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost never use an IDE, I just have the docs on another halve of the screen < 1388272801 481322 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nucular, I like intelisense style completion, doesn't work very well for python though < 1388272859 959473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't use an IDE (which I take to include sufficiently fancy vim/emacs configs) but mostly out of laziness and inertia, not because I don't think they're valuable < 1388273065 888094 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does IntelliSense different again? < 1388273077 307924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Agda emacs mode is awesome and if I had such a mode easily available for Haskell and Rust, I would love it < 1388273083 87025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough to switch back to emacs, maybe < 1388273123 796954 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388273352 765870 :nutty!~MOO@89.204.130.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388273352 993858 :nutty!~MOO@89.204.130.105 QUIT :Changing host < 1388273352 993992 :nutty!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388273354 48455 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388273407 695310 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.130.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388273407 883960 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.130.105 QUIT :Changing host < 1388273407 884164 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388273504 487492 :nuculear!~MOO@89.204.130.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388273550 54090 :nuculear!~MOO@89.204.130.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, two web disconnects in such a small time < 1388273630 694281 :nutty!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388273677 747490 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular NICK :Guest5107 < 1388273679 367077 :Guest5107!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388273949 795141 :nuculear!~MOO@89.204.130.13 NICK :nucular < 1388273950 48848 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I think that with the features in Black-C, it seems like it would be possible to use them to implement many features resembling those used in C++, such as templates, run-time type information, inheritance, Koenig lookup, etc. Do you think this is correct or did I miss something important that results in such implementations not working? < 1388273966 704350 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.130.13 QUIT :Changing host < 1388273966 892438 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388274100 871323 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I the only one only coming up with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBL_Posse when searching Black-C? < 1388274112 532851 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's zzo38's c proposal thing. < 1388274122 452173 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/black_c.txt < 1388274181 463122 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as some C99 stuff such as complex numbers could also be implemented using these features. < 1388274233 975694 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, and namespaces, too. < 1388274310 624958 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I just came here to talk with ais523 about building a Snowflake interpreter < 1388274312 539292 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have recently added the specification of "extern static" now; it is the only thing I added today, I think. Name mangling applies to things declared as "extern static", and in fact only to such things (other things are treated as normal C names). < 1388274543 199232 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, why would you want to make C++!? < 1388274566 904581 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388274568 711108 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Implementing ADL and templates seem like terrible ideas given how much of a pain they cause in the C++ world < 1388274589 756095 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388274602 494725 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nucular, he seems to be missing atm < 1388274643 703575 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1388274678 895040 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It isn't C++; I am simply saying that such things may be some of the things that can be implemented using the features I have described. If you don't like them, don't program them in! < 1388274680 134123 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, my python script works fantastically! < 1388274722 923870 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing that I'm a D fan btw :P < 1388274745 917115 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nucular, you and Deewiant? < 1388274754 114007 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I guess the D author anyway < 1388274766 605224 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be blunt, what I'm saying is that D hasn't really seemed to take off much < 1388274789 91988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does your metaprogramming system give deep access to inspect & destructure types, the way C++ templates do (and pretty much nothing else does)? < 1388274848 252654 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ... hm, I don't know what avconv did though, the "duration" column in vlc is all messed up for these files... < 1388274853 19791 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I am not very well knowing how C++ does it. < 1388274853 332060 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until you play them < 1388274864 644437 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe some sort of VBR and no included length info? < 1388274887 500099 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: What is "ADL" anyways? < 1388274975 171572 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388274979 323481 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, Other name for Koenig lookup (I had to look up what "Koenig lookup" was, I only knew the name ADL - Argument Dependent Lookup) < 1388274995 837271 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388275010 414749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: OK, I didn't know what the abbreviation stood for. < 1388275025 380093 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, my connection decided to suck for today < 1388275064 248850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Can you give some example of its working? < 1388275207 487864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at the moment < 1388275647 744160 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1388275673 252571 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, Hm? "inspect & destructure types"? < 1388275688 339400 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :destructure is not even a real word! < 1388275707 822372 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :says you < 1388275731 803281 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Says the spell checker < 1388275749 423596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the definition of Foo can ask, say, whether T is a pointer, and if so, do things with the pointed-to type < 1388275753 688010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/type_traits/ < 1388275874 788331 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've poked at compile-time type introspectiony stuff, but it's hard to conceptualize. what is a pointer tye, really < 1388275882 796220 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: In mine, you could probably do things with pointed-to-type, using the typeof operator, for example (typeof(*(X)0)) or something like that. (You can also define your own pointer types, which I don't know if C++ can do) < 1388275894 655607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do "your own pointer types" work? < 1388275912 863831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C++ you define your own pointer types by making a struct/class which overloads operator* and such < 1388275926 2009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these so-called "smart pointers" are very important to writing C++ in a high level, memory-safe style < 1388275940 399041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it works something like that. < 1388275949 530883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, yes it is a bit similar to the C++ way. < 1388275990 142740 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, the functions to deal with them are called "deref" and "assign" (including the quotation marks), rather than operator* < 1388276102 590582 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you understand this now? < 1388276201 965093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Hnäjte < 1388276239 37881 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, what about the difference between operator* and operator-> ? < 1388276270 338196 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :In C++ the former returns a reference and the latter a pointer I believe < 1388276282 717240 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :In theory you could return different values for them < 1388276287 701046 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't see that being useful though < 1388276289 375458 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: In mine there isn't a difference. < 1388276316 588666 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, well I doubt you could fully emulate C++ in it then < 1388276320 385886 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the return type of "deref" is a struct/union type, then you can use the -> operator with it. < 1388276326 157378 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the so called "useful" features perhaps < 1388276342 812538 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about pointers to member functions? < 1388276354 172586 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has a ->* syntax or something like that < 1388276360 171335 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't intend to "fully emulate" C++; I only am saying that some useful features of C++ are possible to imitate, but not exactly the C++ way. < 1388276380 16661 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to "pointers to member functions" work? < 1388276390 197153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little sad that Rust doesn't have anything with those particular capabilities of C++ templates, even though C++ templates themselves are a mess < 1388276435 348153 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, It is like a function pointer (points to a function of the given prototype that is also a member of this class) but you provide the actual this-pointer object when calling the function pointer < 1388276436 600286 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo pass first-class environments to macro-functions < 1388276437 832049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Can you do some things, with macros, though? < 1388276445 859485 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I used it *once* < 1388276463 995774 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never used pointer to member variables, which also exists in a similar manner < 1388276481 786691 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Black-C doesn't have a "this" pointer < 1388276506 714437 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, so no member functions? < 1388276516 696529 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your compiler supports trampolines then you may be able to implement such member function pointers < 1388276520 674468 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah... < 1388276521 366657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, there are macros, and there is parametric polymorphism with type classes, but there's nothing which inspects types in this way < 1388276536 750053 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Structures and unions can have functions as long as they are static (or extern static). < 1388276558 257925 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also stay away from MI. < 1388276565 418336 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also virtual inheritance is a mess < 1388276576 954095 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never figured out how it works completely < 1388276599 57521 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Btw, python's scoping is terrible < 1388276611 393960 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can tell it is late binding dynamic scoping? < 1388276612 556487 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My specification has no virtual functions or multiple inheritance or those things either, but you can try to fake it. < 1388276617 152473 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe.) < 1388276623 361832 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of < 1388276641 155476 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? terrible? < 1388276649 64943 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm no it isn't dynamic scoping < 1388276654 193589 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor is it true static scoping < 1388276688 705107 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nucular, well yes... def foo(): return x and then declare x *later* in the module scope (as long as you don < 1388276696 233170 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't* call it before declaring x) works < 1388276711 129251 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm personally not a fan of any sort of late binding < 1388276728 69947 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i like it < 1388276730 280393 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :python is a nice scripting language apart from that though < 1388276742 448383 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :would much prefer static typing and early binding < 1388276766 914437 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i think module systems get much weirder in my projects < 1388276775 135823 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nucular, oh? < 1388276783 759780 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Than what? Python? < 1388276841 594525 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1388276896 69665 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"get much weirder" "than what" < 1388276900 407961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :module systems are a pretty interesting area of PL that I never really learned much about < 1388276923 978324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell and Rust are both pretty conservative re: modules, although Rust's module system is definitely more complicated than Haskell's < 1388276926 654096 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, PL? < 1388276933 768734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming languages (as a field of study) < 1388276935 990062 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :AH < 1388276939 502167 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah* < 1388276946 523593 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example I have a main script that imports a module that imports the main script < 1388276973 179147 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I think the simple system of erlang works well. It is simple apart from the "reload on the fly and keep two versions in memory at once" bit < 1388276992 37377 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nucular, that sounds like bad design < 1388277009 413258 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :The module uses a class that was defined in the main script, and the main script uses the instances created in the module < 1388277024 531301 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Due to the large number of spambot signups from China, we no longer allow .ch email addresses" < 1388277044 365881 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have had python scripts that loops through an array and import modules from that though (for a build system generator thingy, each imported module was the config for that project, defining how to generate that sub-dir) < 1388277056 756148 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388277080 920142 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388277451 912227 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388277719 274202 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388277885 856417 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388277968 517448 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1388278025 802217 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388278417 696743 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388278557 862194 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388278614 43223 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388279717 675194 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388280933 389098 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388281521 164069 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: halp < 1388281550 373269 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why did this render like this and what do i need to do to fix it: http://esolang.rutteric.com/files/oneill1.4.pdf < 1388281634 515890 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: What part is the problem? < 1388281649 715002 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hold on < 1388281697 367413 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: never mind. it's just PDF.js sucking. < 1388282537 94052 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388283263 470713 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388283760 764549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is memcpy(malloc(sizeof(x)),&(x),sizeof(x)) proper? < 1388283838 44413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :malloc might return NULL < 1388283845 411684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also maybe it's possible for x to have size 0? < 1388283910 141598 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose these things are possible, but I don't expect that memcpy should do anything if the size is zero. < 1388284024 825573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :malloc(0) is allowed to return NULL on success; I don't know if memcpy(NULL, x, 0) is allowed or not, but what you say is certainly plausible < 1388284121 382330 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I the only one here getting sudden massive CTCP spam? < 1388284129 413264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't
< 1388284133 524891 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's it from? < 1388284146 257920 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :CJJWCFFDDBAV < 1388284158 636973 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If malloc(0) *does* return NULL on success, then memcpy(NULL, x, 0) should be allowed, too; it would be the sensible way. < 1388284159 725035 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't in this channel < 1388284166 267502 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a reliable person < 1388284167 835375 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like freenode is under a spambot attack < 1388284179 445537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I agree, however ISO 9899 and POSIX and such are not always sensible :/ < 1388284475 805118 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :Users being inside #freenode live dangerously it seems < 1388284524 252771 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1388284783 879500 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my opinion the specification of malloc(0) ought to be: It doesn't matter what it returns (whether it is same every time or different every time, even), as long as free(malloc(0)) is allowed and does not damage the rest of the program, and furthermore that realloc(malloc(0),x) will be like malloc(x), and realloc(malloc(x),0) like malloc(0). < 1388284864 802489 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And furthermore, the results of malloc(0) can be used anywhere a pointer to a zero-length object is expected (such as with memcpy and memmove). < 1388285106 188657 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388285194 660963 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, free(NULL) is allowed (whether or not malloc(0) returns NULL) < 1388285288 93561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you see such as #define extra_super_safe_free(x) do { free(x); x = NULL; } while (0) < 1388285301 468660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the idea that double free() can be dangerous but extra_super_safe_free() is idempotent < 1388285313 152030 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK. < 1388285343 16862 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just do it myself when it is necessary, although I do suppose to use a macro would work too. < 1388285353 284259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my gut feeling is that this is ``too clever'' and will backfire in some way I'm not anticipating < 1388285357 82823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but *shrug* < 1388285424 671451 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just have to ensure that x is a lvalue without side effects, I would think, as well that the macro is not itself called with a pointer to a object that is already destroyed or invalid < 1388285436 983135 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1388285513 755858 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it is useful even for reasons other than to be more safe; and actually those other reasons are the ones I would use them for, since rather I just wanted to record that it is not existing anymore. < 1388285525 640652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should C have a "post-assign" operator such that (supposing it were spelled =.) you could do free(x =. NULL) ? < 1388285570 624127 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "post-assign" operator is actually something I have wanted to have, for other reasons too < 1388285576 417449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reasons? < 1388285604 437177 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not remember, but I do know I have wanted it for other reasons. < 1388285693 588681 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably a macro can be made of it in GNU C using ({ ... }) < 1388285735 475482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe, but how? < 1388285760 853927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU C is basically C fan fiction < 1388287326 954203 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388287363 781178 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388287579 605711 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define post_assign(x,y) ({ typeof(x) local1=x; x=y; local1; }) < 1388287611 755675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, I suppose < 1388287697 676002 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388289190 819493 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's better than canon though < 1388289235 358354 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388289238 216959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1388289258 261680 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1388289284 334697 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the language extension equivalent of Erotic Versions of Star Trek Where All the Characters Are Furries, Like Kirk is an Ocelot or Something, and They Put A Furry Version of Themselves as the Star of the Story < 1388289330 988565 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388289582 214139 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what. < 1388289584 508138 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :-fgnu-runtime < 1388289597 489439 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm absolutely confused by that message. < 1388289618 879005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://brunching.com/images/geekchartbig.gif < 1388289622 353420 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would totally read that fanfic itt < 1388289632 858338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-fheinous-gnu-extensions < 1388289693 464421 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably one of those C-with-a-shitload-of-macros-and-custom-preprocessor things < 1388289699 884016 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like qt but for c, ic an't think of any xxamples < 1388289718 719050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: from where does the name Black-C come? < 1388289957 10271 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388291179 373509 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: From my own name. Black is my name. < 1388291189 388835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh!! right < 1388291239 806626 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That’s racist < 1388291305 421667 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of arrows go both ways. < 1388291573 466023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: dumb < 1388291629 902093 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: What are you saying is racist? < 1388291668 756555 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388291841 302700 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1388292293 29519 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388292332 630156 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1388292340 157178 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1388292373 985402 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388292425 93304 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388292451 981460 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1388292477 174106 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex NICK :preflex < 1388293285 881579 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388293599 901680 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There there public domain editions of the Bible which are English and have better quality than KJV (and that include deuterocanonical books, and perhaps also a few others)? < 1388293608 771818 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1388293612 169591 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There there"? < 1388293626 70923 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/There there/Are there/ < 1388293695 312606 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum, NIV's still in copyright < 1388293700 550631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :KJV isn't public domain? oh right, in the UK it's under perpetual Crown copyright < 1388293711 757813 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: seems unlikely. if someone puts in the effort to retranslate, surely they'll want a little bit of recompense for the effort. but then, i don't know if people copyright bible translations ever. < 1388293733 207168 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do < 1388293734 100785 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess britain did once < 1388293758 170247 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikisource has some http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Bible < 1388293775 645014 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i would if i had done it, but it seems counter to the goal of spreading it as widely as possible < 1388293814 778073 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you still might want to control derivative works, etc < 1388293818 375504 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, it has that problem, but it is also the quality I am looking for (and furthermore, academic more than religious) < 1388293853 210000 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :academic edition in the pd sounds like a nice dream, unfortunately < 1388293875 981647 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah you're gonna pay for something as high-quality as an oxford bible < 1388293973 356260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe shachaf can translate some bible for you < 1388294000 413553 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is gopher wood < 1388294003 516879 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: If I want an actual book (including with an index and everything like that) then I would pay, that would be fine; however I wanted a public domain copy which can be made the plain ASCII file in a computer. < 1388294059 684870 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my experience with public domain plaintext is ungood (shudders at memories of victorian-era mahabharata) < 1388294068 42965 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of translations* < 1388294116 487268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: a good name for a band, is what < 1388294120 990664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not as good as Kingpiss < 1388294139 567649 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The World English Bible (also known as the WEB) is a free updated revision of the American Standard Version (1901). It is one of the only public domain, modern-English translations of the entire Bible. It is freely distributed using electronic formats. The Bible was created on the base of the ASV by volunteers on the ebible.org project and edited by Rainbow Missions, Inc., a Colorado nonprofit corporation." < 1388294147 308994 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess this is probably the best you're going to get < 1388294162 259453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there it is. < 1388294216 554779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://achewood.com/index.php?date=01222007 < 1388294284 624514 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it isn't in plain text format, it can (hopefully) be converted, and if it contains some errors (in the translation, or just typographical), then can be improved (and if such improvements are made, it should clearly be marked as such; no confusion with original format please!) < 1388294297 773701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which books is it including/excluding? < 1388294368 657143 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it's got the usual stuff and the deuterocanon < 1388294387 785506 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want mary or enoch i dunno what to tell you < 1388294399 330221 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is good then, since some don't have deuterocanon. < 1388294400 632186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :deuterocannon < 1388295613 158383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1388295623 740919 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am in sf < 1388295642 762663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good city < 1388295999 138299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1388296007 25175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :translate any bibles lately? < 1388296021 710123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's in sf anyway < 1388296078 727789 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1388296087 987957 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. wrong window. < 1388296099 585230 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assert that in sf is no < 1388296198 90105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you prolog < 1388296235 443056 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1388296247 943506 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388296400 275900 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388297595 123771 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1388298420 55926 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388298536 837222 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388300602 402569 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388301331 432242 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pokemon Yellow... is turing complete < 1388301332 101475 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://beza1e1.tuxen.de/articles/accidentally_turing_complete.html < 1388301332 917512 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :way < 1388301334 663432 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wat < 1388301573 544741 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only turing complete since like, it has an arbitrary code execution vulnerability, right? < 1388301708 110366 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's silly, the cartridge doesn't have an infinite amount of RAM in it. < 1388301767 557198 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yes < 1388301776 732061 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Stuff which is somehow limited (stack overflows, arbitrary configuration, etc) is still considered Turing complete, since all "physical" Turing machines are resource limited." < 1388302410 184623 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should all watch the video corresponding to that hack < 1388302417 543784 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good tas < 1388302445 287047 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UnB1fomvAw i think it's this one < 1388302550 908902 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can kinda see reality disintegrate < 1388302998 54561 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388303468 76262 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1388304507 833762 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388304647 982771 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388304853 789395 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388304881 863136 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388306967 937373 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: Even if the universe were infinite? < 1388307408 396133 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388307467 141367 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1388307637 141245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1388307954 17999 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388308159 812343 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388308207 400208 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1388308431 764617 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q: what is the standard measure of old data? < 1388308431 952864 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A: The trilobyte. < 1388308692 841487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a silurious joke < 1388309677 421490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask nucular Am I the only one here getting sudden massive CTCP spam? <-- have you set the +i flag on yourself? iiuc it makes you invisible to spammers not in the same channel. < 1388309677 646094 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388309756 598148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he's in #freenode < 1388311483 455841 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll do it < 1388315135 561440 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388316306 790570 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think "turing-complete" could even apply to pokemon yellow < 1388316334 95534 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gsc has a simple scripting system for in-game events and i assume you could figure its computational class < 1388316406 9071 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tertu: well < 1388316422 545911 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tasvideos.org/3767S.html < 1388316464 546085 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the arrangement of the items is some sort of language < 1388316958 339181 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388317371 863258 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388317657 174465 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1388317703 651665 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calling rebooting the game while saving to corrupt memory a "valid action[] (like walking from one place to another or buying items)" is kind of stretching it. < 1388318001 383246 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bumped into one of my old sort-of friends from high school < 1388318006 954275 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently he now programs in Haskell < 1388318012 60809 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything in a TAS is allowed as long as it would be technically (but probably not) possible with just the original hardware, and it gets you to the ending screen < 1388318024 997322 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Talk to him about Haskell! < 1388318029 87549 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, I did! < 1388318040 271995 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He... has no experience with a lot of features of Haskell < 1388318048 632334 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you accepted haskell curry as your lord and savior? < 1388318051 832576 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard Earthbound's dialogue thing is a kinda complex scripting language < 1388318058 419396 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be his Jedi teacher < 1388318120 674307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: It wasn't really about what's allowed or not in a TAS, more about the chess analogy in the description. (Anyway, this run doesn't go to the ending screen.) < 1388318135 451917 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [False] >>= \b -> False : if b then [True] else [] < 1388318136 549798 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [False] < 1388318143 298816 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does go to *an* ending screen < 1388318152 597827 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [False] >>= \b -> False : if b then [] else [True] < 1388318153 535298 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [False,True] < 1388318184 359973 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f b = False : if b then [] else [True] in [False] >>= f >>= f >>= f < 1388318185 489137 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [False,True,False,False,True] < 1388318251 465874 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f 0 = [0,1]; f 1 = [0] in [0] >>= f >>= f >>= f < 1388318252 670114 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,0,0,1] < 1388318257 174368 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f 0 = [0,1]; f 1 = [0] in [0] >>= f >>= f >>= f >>= f < 1388318258 445235 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,0,0,1,0,1,0] < 1388318262 291859 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1388318348 27067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f = ([id,(1-)]??) in [0] >>= f >>= f >>= f >>= f < 1388318350 167348 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0] < 1388318497 203943 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this sequence called again? < 1388318510 796437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thor-moose sequence hth < 1388318513 198729 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried looking for it but found the dragon curve sequence instead < 1388318522 146535 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that's it < 1388318575 551671 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thue-Morse sequence < 1388318580 816266 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's better < 1388318590 444714 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thor-moose sequence sounds very Norwegian. < 1388318596 963592 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was doing Lindenmayer's algae) < 1388318598 491511 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does < 1388318604 65590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: surprisingly so was thue. < 1388318642 421621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i thought i recognized the fibonacci substitution. < 1388318668 763253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like it. < 1388318685 650397 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let thue = 0 : map (1-) thue in thue < 1388318687 194056 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1... < 1388318697 145869 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that didn't work out =P < 1388318705 51934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say < 1388318709 202344 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yeah, it's quite close to the fibonacci one < 1388318729 56485 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f 0 = [0,1]; f 1 = [0] in [1] >>= f >>= f >>= f >>= f < 1388318730 264895 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,0,0,1] < 1388318737 619702 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the Fibonacci one < 1388318750 672238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right there should be no fixpoint. < 1388318766 853581 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f 0 = [0,1]; f 1 = [0] in [1] >>= f >>= f >>= f >>= f >>= f < 1388318768 12566 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,0,0,1,0,1,0] < 1388318773 480685 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f 0 = [0,1]; f 1 = [0] in [1] >>= f >>= f >>= f >>= f >>= f >>= f < 1388318774 481746 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,1] < 1388318782 334747 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you do an infinite list of thue-morse? < 1388318793 46790 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f 0 = [0,1]; f 1 = [0] in fix (>=> f) [1] < 1388318794 299319 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: stack overflow < 1388318808 383659 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f 0 = [0,1]; f 1 = [0] in fix (f >=> ) [1] < 1388318809 502301 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Num.Num t0) arising from the literal `1' < 1388318809 690833 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable `t0' is ambiguous < 1388318809 691001 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Possible fix: add a type signature that fixes these type variable(s) < 1388318809 691095 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note: there are several potential instances: < 1388318809 691191 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : instance GHC.Num.Num GHC.Types.Double < 1388318819 716628 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type let f 0 = [0,1]; f 1 = [0] in fix (f >=> ) < 1388318820 735057 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Eq b, Num b) => b -> [c] < 1388318825 897742 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1388318832 98361 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type let f 0 = [0,1]; f 1 = [0] in fix (>=> f) < 1388318832 873597 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Eq b, Num b) => a -> [b] < 1388318838 352233 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type let f 0 = [0,1]; f 1 = [0] in fix (>>= f) < 1388318839 121219 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Eq a, Num a) => [a] < 1388318844 887261 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1388318854 86027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ((0:).drop 1.concatMap([id,(1-)]??)) < 1388318856 408430 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,1,0,1... < 1388318925 959531 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Unnecessary space between the fix and ( < 1388318938 143612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :picky < 1388318947 73515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix$(0:).drop 1.concatMap([id,(1-)]??) < 1388318948 565378 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,1,0,1... < 1388318957 993015 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 1 "hllo" < 1388318959 25086 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "llo" < 1388318959 660675 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1388318962 744040 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> tail "hllo" < 1388318963 695323 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "llo" < 1388318964 587969 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you can just drop the space altogether < 1388318976 462040 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix((0:).drop 1.concatMap([id,(1-)]??)) < 1388318978 113084 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,1,0,1... < 1388318985 294447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is longer than switching to $ < 1388318994 58617 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1388319009 331095 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix$(0:).tail.(=<<)([id,(-1)]??) < 1388319010 651044 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Show.Show a0) < 1388319010 842843 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `M47647106981436577086096.show_M47647106981436577086... < 1388319010 842996 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable `a0' is ambiguous < 1388319010 843088 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Possible fix: add a type signature that fixes these type variable(s) < 1388319010 843181 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note: there are several potential instances: < 1388319017 609956 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yaaaay < 1388319030 500928 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type (=<<( < 1388319031 350315 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) < 1388319032 553014 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type (=<<) < 1388319033 282788 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => (a -> m b) -> m a -> m b < 1388319042 309096 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type concatMap < 1388319043 31875 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> [b]) -> [a] -> [b] < 1388319045 820635 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (=<<)([id,(-1)]??) < 1388319046 543647 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num (b -> b) => [b] -> [b] < 1388319051 549076 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not right < 1388319070 315372 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses the reader monad there < 1388319070 807695 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix$(0:).tail.(=<<)([id,(1-)]??) < 1388319072 134272 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,1,0,1... < 1388319077 491044 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typo :) < 1388319108 772254 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1388319113 866948 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, 1- < 1388319133 465179 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't even notice that < 1388319144 71321 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> complement 1 < 1388319145 130152 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -2 < 1388319148 78026 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1388319154 284128 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> complement 0 < 1388319155 445425 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -1 < 1388319247 232943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix$(0:).tail.(<**>[id,(1-)]) < 1388319248 533418 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,1,0,1... < 1388319775 462904 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurs to me I have no idea how to write a Thue-Morse sequence program in C < 1388320259 67307 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends on how much you want to output < 1388320269 149554 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to keep outputting forever, you'll run out of memory < 1388320360 455372 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've written /something/ that seems to work < 1388320448 971784 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only 5 KB compiled, too! < 1388320825 102848 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Icon Programming for Humanists" < 1388320826 245475 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wat. < 1388320944 682460 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Icon having null is presented as an innovation compared to SNOBOL < 1388320950 838303 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in this article on rosettacode) < 1388320955 157633 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Icon%2BUnicon/Intro < 1388320967 940054 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... guess I can see how, especially after having experienced Tcl < 1388321209 458152 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can play about a minute of thue-morse on guitar
< 1388321400 169956 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicon IDE... seems to be taking forever to compile Hello world < 1388321573 322512 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I think the IDE is suppressing errors or something, because I got this running unicon from command line" < 1388321575 487 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"unicon: cannot open interpreter file" < 1388321707 597424 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, didn't I complain about the (Un?)icon trick that powers 3 < x < 5 etc. being... weak somehow? < 1388321843 383394 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388321845 367810 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(x | y) = (3 | 5) < 1388321867 338870 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = 10; y = 5 in any $ (==) <$> [x, y] <*> [3,5] < 1388321868 421540 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `a0 -> GHC.Types.Bool' < 1388321868 611267 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `[GHC.Types.Bool]' < 1388321882 293535 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t any < 1388321883 115381 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> Bool) -> [a] -> Bool < 1388321901 594302 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = 10; y = 5 in any id $ (==) <$> [x, y] <*> [3,5] < 1388321902 656328 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1388321925 778875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t and < 1388321926 526206 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Bool] -> Bool < 1388321930 799713 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Possibly what you were looking for.) < 1388321967 709750 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t or < 1388321967 939098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, "or" is what I meant. < 1388321968 500938 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Bool] -> Bool < 1388321971 695758 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even more possibly! < 1388321983 487056 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, < 1388321986 986812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src any < 1388321987 175315 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :any p = or . map p < 1388322094 456706 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicon basically lives in the List monad, right? < 1388322751 605897 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, why does table lookup need a "default" that defaults to &null? < 1388322767 556269 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Icon/Unicon's who schtick was avoiding that nonsense and just failing? < 1388322772 637383 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*whole < 1388322792 709779 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, it occurs to me, doesn't work too well when there are multiple layers that may 'fail' < 1388323246 968953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote * oklopol can play about a minute of thue-morse on guitar < 1388323253 516533 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1150) * oklopol can play about a minute of thue-morse on guitar < 1388323604 120388 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1388323674 866215 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388323751 771942 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388323815 816512 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388324037 747556 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388324067 898297 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388324108 368904 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1388324108 572533 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1388324673 453431 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src or < 1388324673 688442 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or = foldr (||) False < 1388324685 236654 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be or = any id < 1388325248 478098 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src any < 1388325248 719740 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :any p = or . map p < 1388325278 281928 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could get a bit uselessly recursive < 1388325820 42799 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388325851 92652 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a non-lazy language, I can definitely see the any being primitive and or being derived as more efficient < 1388325862 955875 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or, well, if working with non-lazy lists) < 1388326056 951736 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388326409 149386 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388326421 777513 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388326464 38134 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1388326464 282458 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1388326502 466465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1388328046 666197 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Warning:For each data type discussed in section, there is a corresponding module in the Mozart system. The modules define operations on the corresponding data type. You may find more about these operations in The Oz Base Environment documentation" < 1388328052 194703 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is this a warning? < 1388329487 94755 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Sorella < 1388329791 770558 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388329933 969122 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388330007 118737 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388330089 951779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :$$f_x(y)=\left(f_{x-1}^{y!}(y!)\right)^x+y$$ (where ^{y!} is a functional power) < 1388330258 39816 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388330285 909193 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388330590 259665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a kind of shogi variant, where initially all pieces is known, but later on, it might not be known exactly what kind of pieces they are, but you can try to figure out what it is. http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MSunknownoffpiec < 1388330890 933688 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388330897 911848 :augur_!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388330908 92189 :heroux_!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1388330912 521565 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388330940 848606 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1388331204 272750 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388331204 742702 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388331204 946009 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388331205 146799 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388331205 586861 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388331209 179479 :heroux_!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl NICK :heroux < 1388332243 507318 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In Oz there is syntactic support for module specification. The concept used is called functor ." < 1388332252 112043 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DRINK for a language using the term 'functor' for something < 1388332260 401076 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, is that the same meaning as in *MLs? < 1388332335 258970 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388332645 387128 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor? I hardly know her! < 1388333185 59764 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really dislike the C++ use of the term functor < 1388333201 596782 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is basically an object overloading operator(), thus making it callable. < 1388333233 36644 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, Oz's ByNeed is interesting < 1388333251 341072 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, takes an explicit thunk and turns it into a lazy value < 1388333304 748631 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, guess that's the same as any language that has some sort of native promise thing < 1388334146 978719 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1388336495 56915 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388336786 786372 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1388336792 119753 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388336802 738321 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388337205 378361 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388337205 583538 :ineiros_!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388337205 789449 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388337206 120058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388337266 672485 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388337276 399572 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1388337316 792929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388337586 490444 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1388337960 566097 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ :/ :/ < 1388337970 342238 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm running Java 1.4 :/ < 1388338133 42680 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :[li]|AoS < 1388338613 924366 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388339459 786454 :[li]|AoS!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388339573 960085 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I'm sorry :| < 1388339583 643642 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This program depends on <7 < 1388339592 205181 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And has an installer that includes 4 < 1388339601 531469 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to figure out WHY 7 breaks it < 1388339800 572983 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388339829 657264 :Tefaj!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388339998 172745 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1388340002 31792 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388340148 773055 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388340626 799328 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1388340650 724686 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388341963 980791 :Tefaj!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Changing host < 1388341964 187018 :Tefaj!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1388341968 89219 :Tefaj!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet NICK :Jafet < 1388341991 91970 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PART :#esoteric < 1388342767 407505 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1388343329 508059 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. FUCK JUSTIN.TV IN THE ASS < 1388343397 705246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't want to < 1388343401 101266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why < 1388343432 894060 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Information that that site portrays as confidential (a key to broadcast to a user's stream) is easily accessible by a link that you can make just by knowing a username < 1388343686 357843 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, did you report this vuln? < 1388343699 969958 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, haven't tested it yet < 1388343708 748027 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want a volunteer < 1388343748 737256 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's not unethical, right?) < 1388343852 348763 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. False alarm. < 1388343938 75822 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah, URL contains username, but that doesn't mean you'll actually see that user's file < 1388343938 281667 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will show your own instead < 1388344929 387585 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good alarmist fternoon! < 1388344982 422881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1388345777 775450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388346088 502486 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4C640.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388346426 649543 :_46bit_!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vksehfkiscttnjhi NICK :_46bit < 1388346431 466270 :_46bit!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vksehfkiscttnjhi QUIT :Changing host < 1388346431 666821 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388346579 469098 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro < 1388346730 897924 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388346844 25143 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388346895 930925 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388346913 3669 :Edward___!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 NICK :Edwardz < 1388347209 964915 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388347321 976597 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new favorite language: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Suicide < 1388347415 872465 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388347438 743017 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1388348772 766015 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily < 1388348942 882299 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4C640.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388349002 586076 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4C640.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388349604 576565 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a neat algorithm to turn an image of a 3d wireframe back into a 3d vector map? < 1388349664 998909 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean, you're taking a 2d projection of a wireframe? < 1388349670 966945 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388349729 192115 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: i think you would need at least two images of the wireframe from different angles < 1388349747 315142 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :taking a 2d projection of a wireframe and working out the position of the 3d vectors. < 1388349748 597123 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even then you have no guarantee due to inherent ambiguities < 1388349762 189256 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's definitely ambiguous < 1388349775 625531 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, the 3d figure could be flat :') < 1388349807 477860 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that would be noticed in the 2 images case < 1388349825 639423 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: also you remind me of that new zealand art farm with the giant wire frame kleenex < 1388350736 81303 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia < 1388351029 394089 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how sunday < 1388351121 462300 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many zombies < 1388351168 122902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1388351246 778231 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1388351255 800604 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me about the zombies < 1388351292 879480 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was watching Shawn of the Dead with my dad :D < 1388351335 418975 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good choice < 1388351428 132981 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still dominicquing under the Hot Ball of Hydrogen? < 1388351447 734343 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that ended christmas day < 1388351459 861281 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :today i walked the dog < 1388351466 998268 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :around stone mountain < 1388351482 101133 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to come to atlanta, i'll walk you around stone mountain too :) < 1388351516 179725 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at wikipédia's pictures of Stone Mountain. “it looks like a big rock.”
< 1388351563 312714 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conversely, if you come to Montréal, there's Mont Royal. < 1388351577 719100 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not quite as impressive, but it has weird Montrealers on it :D) < 1388351580 540503 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what a fitting name for the city < 1388351615 901032 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at first it was called Ville Marie. that's still the name of the Old Town borough. < 1388351628 661613 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :stone mountain is probably about the same. it is a weird park. the other day i climbed it and there was a dude playing and singing oldies songs halfway up walking up and down in the woods with his guitar < 1388351659 711947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :logically, if they call a mountain stone mountain, there should be some other nearby mountain _not_ made of stone. < 1388351733 87475 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's perfectly logical when you consider that kennesaw mountin is entirely covered in trees and dirt. that stuff won't grow on the bubble of pure granite that is stone mountain. < 1388351742 26650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1388351751 562894 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, there is no mountain nearby. it's rather a geological anomaly. < 1388351791 108846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume from the spelling that kennesaw mountin has even more hillbillies < 1388351853 410625 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: better to assume i am a bad speller. kennesaw mountain is in the heart of one of atlanta's richer suburbs. not the richest, but solidly middle class. < 1388351875 689379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1388351958 176656 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also the site of kennesaw mountain national battlefield park, and one of the bloodier battles of the civil war. < 1388351973 558427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Basically, takes an explicit thunk and turns it into a lazy value <-- well that's just unsafePerformIO really >:) < 1388352055 277280 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: shh! the Maskarade! don't go and tell People the Dirty Haskell Secrets! < 1388352065 787097 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388352986 391065 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ok i'll come to montreal and you'll come to atlanta. consecutively. we'll make a vacation of it! < 1388352991 638444 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me know when < 1388353079 116014 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388353878 781862 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1388354165 301255 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388354327 255631 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover NICK :FreeFull < 1388354664 526288 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (2560*1440) / (1280 * 768) < 1388354665 761806 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.75 < 1388354711 620525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (2560*1440) % (1280 * 768) < 1388354712 742287 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 15 % 4 < 1388355053 640618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388355963 789867 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4C640.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388356551 891366 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388356553 764521 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388356635 984443 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388356716 108900 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388357913 19205 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388357955 806368 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1388358233 404297 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388358349 757083 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388358365 639675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388358674 769516 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388359346 908246 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388360652 830682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1388360917 112361 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just finished Brothers - A Tale of Two Sons. It is my new game of the year. < 1388360952 249651 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good timing < 1388361013 585869 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, yeah < 1388361040 778305 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think it is definitely in the top 3 of all time as well < 1388361066 118315 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope these timings are not related < 1388361083 903682 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, what other timing? < 1388361095 209891 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just reattached to my bnc < 1388361112 975690 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you picked your game of the year near the end of the year, and your game of all time... < 1388361120 905170 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1388361154 173094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s ok time was overrated anyway < 1388362120 913471 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388362405 626843 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: what platform is it for < 1388362674 656732 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, PC, Xbox360 and also maybe PS3 I think? < 1388362678 408255 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played it on PC < 1388362682 72461 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is Windows btw < 1388362686 600554 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not Linux alas < 1388362701 407652 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well that's too bad. let me know when it gets ported to android :D < 1388362715 512659 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, also you *really* need a game pad to play it, since you control one character with each analog stick < 1388362779 272251 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: why can't i just use each half of a portrait-mode touchscreen? < 1388362803 703372 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, well it isn't on a touch screen device < 1388362820 644125 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you see my quandary < 1388362822 527047 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I found touch screen game pad controls pretty terrible compared to the real deal < 1388362853 645595 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: they can be. but they can be good too. for instance, survivalcraft on android < 1388362857 326543 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I generally use my PS3 controller with my Nexus 10 tablet when playing that type of android game < 1388362865 727062 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works pretty well, but requires root < 1388362893 494260 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a really good app for PS3 controllers < 1388362983 925437 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388363203 361738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1388363584 302787 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I just bought the sound track for it as well. < 1388363589 654648 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good night < 1388363889 958264 :augur_!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388363899 728387 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-130-194.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388363985 789299 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-130-194.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388364004 241488 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1388364022 868236 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-130-194.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388364086 584193 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1388368240 694509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"system default timezone" is a pretty weird concept in this age of clouds < 1388368315 445092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only clock typically visible on my laptop is from an irssi session running on a VM on a physical machine located in I think Virginia, but I have that VM set to America/Los_Angeles because that's where I live < 1388368317 57632 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :utc-12, obviously, since nobody uses it < 1388368326 178581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't update it when traveling, even though I do update my laptop's local tz < 1388368414 148646 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: all of the above applies to me as well, except i set my vps to east coast US < 1388368752 286270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this thread: Indiana has 11 IANA time zones < 1388368803 18230 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like to think indiana has a graveyard of discarded clocks. < 1388368820 815249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/r/MapPorn/BPeLK is a kind of time zone map I was looking for the other day: deviation between legal time and mean solar time < 1388368823 817534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolchina < 1388368846 630897 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm glad nobody in the west actually uses utc+8 because that seems like it'd be a serious pain < 1388368913 964792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :solar noon in Kashgar is around 3 PM < 1388368924 485679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what do they use? < 1388368940 948706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Russia uses Moscow time everywhere for some things, like train timetables but not airplanes? < 1388368962 244776 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they just use utc+5 < 1388368965 748568 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unofficially, of course < 1388369007 819619 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there is no DST so that's good enough < 1388369080 876260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reddit's habit of labeling any image subreddit as "porn" is somewhat distasteful. < 1388369081 691975 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's abolish time zones and use an arbitrary chosen Biel mean time with a fancy commercial-at mark! < 1388369304 870974 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just took screenshots of a place that doesn't exist anymore < 1388369333 116568 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/a/ddbUy < 1388369343 103048 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sardinia? < 1388369359 102299 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think this is Sardinia. < 1388369367 83728 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this map of spectator sport popularity is edifying < 1388369391 77022 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, who would have guessed that basketball be most popular in estonia and lithuania, while latvia prefers hockey? < 1388369398 247908 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo autonomous oblast < 1388369433 969750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear 3 on 3 half-court basketball is suuuuuper popular in East Asia < 1388369457 647817 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man i remember worlds.com < 1388369459 791083 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucked < 1388369461 392219 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo took a screenshot of the pale of settlement. tragic stuff. < 1388369477 569125 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1388369491 733217 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the most popular spectator sport in mongolia: wrestling. mongolians are true men! :D < 1388369497 643618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1388369549 879599 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how that's essentially a map of how stupid a time zone is. < 1388369861 557985 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently thailand is the only country where the most popular sport is volleyball < 1388369871 678338 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that say about the thai < 1388369891 357187 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it says they have warm weather and nice beaches EVERYWHERE < 1388370082 899536 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388370139 958484 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388370448 475310 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb going to thailand < 1388370482 762738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the sports-map? < 1388370563 355433 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-32-20.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1388370589 758664 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388370602 712949 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-32-20.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1388370602 901091 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1388370642 896484 :huihuih8!~anonymous@2602:30a:c0cd:d7e0:f9e6:a224:661f:5d9f JOIN :#esoteric < 1388370841 817856 :huihuih8!~anonymous@2602:30a:c0cd:d7e0:f9e6:a224:661f:5d9f PART #esoteric :"(Byrd IRC Client // haxed.net)" < 1388370885 658404 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sardinia? < 1388370890 763272 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to sardinia < 1388370902 334949 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kingdom. < 1388371493 116855 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388371730 753063 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1388371989 780863 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should totally build a BytePusher VM < 1388372112 95220 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION misread that as buy
< 1388375839 874967 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388376994 494563 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388377699 829406 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-66.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388377763 772278 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1388377793 869235 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-39-64.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388378245 902939 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMIX instruction set has a "SWYM" instruction, which from what I can tell may be like a NOP instruction. < 1388378363 472407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks
< 1388378372 229156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sympathize with your machinery" nice < 1388378673 256654 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1388378683 343445 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1388378792 114652 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1388378817 768627 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388378832 975082 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388378836 220118 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex NICK :preflex < 1388378966 475060 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-39-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/askphilosophy/comments/1tzbut/i_have_made_the_three_laws_of_logic_for_humans/ < 1388379185 875694 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it necessary to have both LDO and LDOU instructions? It is supposed to be LDO for signed and LDOU for unsigned, but it loads into a 64-bit register there would be no bits to be signed extended anyways. There is no condition register either like in other instruction sets. < 1388379237 418776 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :might just be for consistency with loads of other sizes < 1388379410 644160 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although maybe it should just reserve it in case you need to customize the instruction set < 1388379449 557659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know what GCC uses, but presumaly the assembler could be modified to work with customized instruction sets) < 1388379500 928809 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-39-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does gcc just call out to gas < 1388379508 118236 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does. < 1388379509 678379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1388379525 814055 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to watch/read a let's play. any recommendations? < 1388379526 631679 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-39-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, good. my experience with inbuilt assemblers is doubleplusungood < 1388379536 663078 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-39-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: scotsman in egypt < 1388379544 604786 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-39-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that one brain age tas < 1388379549 616657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it calls gas with some flags that mean "don't bother checking this too hard because this code is totally legit" < 1388379564 72005 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the inline assembly syntax is quite ignorant of the actual assembly code. < 1388379581 797144 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :brain age tas is pretty awesome, but it's a) kind of old and b) not a tas < 1388379586 228412 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, I could play metroid ii < 1388379588 549252 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's do that < 1388379603 845527 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The constraints are all that GCC actually knows about; the assembly itself is taken as just an opaque stringe. < 1388379607 226725 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*string < 1388379625 611995 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Watch the let's play game of Super ASCII MZX Town. < 1388379633 916983 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-39-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's always kind of funny/sad to see the \ns < 1388379642 588856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe you need a knife) < 1388379687 444854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it when the "inline assembler" is entirely assembler directives with no instructions < 1388379712 341072 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388379755 72338 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.153.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388379755 260607 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.153.179 QUIT :Changing host < 1388379755 260777 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388379756 392035 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-39-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that... happens? < 1388379787 403787 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1388379813 703136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg http://mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.com/2012/01/embedding-gdb-breakpoints-in-c-source.html < 1388379826 600619 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-39-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should have known it was you, you anarchist < 1388379836 745653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ⓐ < 1388379860 382716 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :('A') < 1388379868 828547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a cat < 1388379896 398235 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorta. < 1388379954 218737 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you like the ideas of Chess 2: The Sequel < 1388379975 366452 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1388379977 244751 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you can also use inline asm at the top level of a file: https://gist.github.com/kmcallister/8178050 < 1388380021 631848 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-39-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1388380146 473824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i don't need that "extern" < 1388380181 625309 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/x86/boot/code16gcc.h Or, more usefully. < 1388380208 717060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1388380246 636974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://livegrep.com/search/linux?q=%5Easm%5C( < 1388380409 146279 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a little more impressive if you know exactly what that's *for* in this case. < 1388380436 251743 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That tells gas that the code will be executed in real mode, so it should spew out the 32-bit operand prefixes for everything. < 1388380612 242978 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the assembly gcc outputs is correct in real mode without gcc doing anything special? < 1388380723 734505 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barely. < 1388380830 575305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Not really all that much. It is OK, but there are a lot of better chess variants too < 1388380852 733254 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: which ones do you think are better and why? < 1388380860 574526 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, all the 32-bit opcodes are still there in 16-bit modes on x86, they're just spelled differently. < 1388380896 944529 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-39-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone got any book recommendations? like, fiction. novels and short story collections. < 1388380925 640215 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: parahumans.wordpress.com, Anathem, Good Omens < 1388380952 538804 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though you're running in a 16-bit flat address space when doing this, unless you hit unreal mode. < 1388380964 978107 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: The dueling rule is an interesting idea, though. < 1388380976 854371 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it seemed like your kind of rule < 1388380988 466814 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needless to say, it's a fragile hack. < 1388381011 424713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any esolangs where a program is a sound file? i see it mentioned on http://esolangs.org/wiki/List_of_ideas < 1388381036 625980 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-39-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's at least one that uses midi. < 1388381037 475023 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game is not bad, though. < 1388381044 815174 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-39-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fugue, i think < 1388381054 808579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found http://esolangs.org/wiki/Fugue through that, which is a really cool idea < 1388381066 7916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I like the suggestion 'Combine the ideas behind Choon and Fugue into a single language where the programs are music and the output is music, then compose a piece called "Eine kleine Quinemusik".' < 1388381093 215961 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-39-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the best brainfuck derivative < 1388381140 513030 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowflake is my current favourite esolang < 1388381149 615747 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :BytePusher is cool to < 1388381206 579197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could split a sound file into blocks of time and compute a spectrum for each one and map those to Brainfuck commands, for example, but I wonder if there's something more interesting you could do with the spectra < 1388381233 414490 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if the midline rule is good as is, though. Maybe it should be farther across the board? < 1388381252 825896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the state of the virtual machine is itself such a spectrum and it combines with the spectrum at each time step in a nonlinear way < 1388381272 432227 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-39-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :modulation, one might say < 1388381276 376026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes it vaguely quantum-y < 1388381510 637377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb building a computer out of guitar pedals and tape loop delay boxes < 1388381546 187879 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-39-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's like puredata. just not sound itself. < 1388381584 230996 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388381584 863769 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388381621 776770 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388381875 755464 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388382668 461048 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388383093 288791 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388383103 887695 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388383927 6139 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388383957 499355 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a general idea for a language, how do you check to make sure one similar doesn't exist? < 1388384513 127180 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 PRIVMSG #esoteric :explaining it in here might work < 1388384572 877046 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388385220 949183 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Quit: Sleeping < 1388386538 386215 :Edwardz!47ec1e9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.236.30.154 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1388387528 433575 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1388387987 301669 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388388614 750212 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1388392065 967484 :CADD_!~CADD@cpe-76-173-194-144.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388392066 155498 :CADD_!~CADD@cpe-76-173-194-144.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1388393140 332599 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388393812 454678 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no need to check that :) < 1388393825 509305 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise there wouldn't be soooo freaking many brainfuck derivatives < 1388393864 459695 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here familiar with http://www.idris-lang.org/ ? < 1388394134 20468 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure that's not haskell with a different name? < 1388394147 968384 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1388394155 57543 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but given that it has dependent types < 1388394158 154866 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is probably not haskell < 1388394194 340379 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just a hunch < 1388394213 123296 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't see any syntax differences except that :: is : < 1388394215 164501 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and : is :: < 1388394255 204738 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah. It's not haskell < 1388394671 847541 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: see agda < 1388395538 122455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1388396226 299581 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1388396421 224247 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4C758.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388396722 861248 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388396825 171822 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's Gunnerkrigg Court is cute < 1388397655 63092 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Quit < 1388397666 677463 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388397670 912916 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PART :#esoteric < 1388398083 457311 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah.... I don't even know what dependent types are < 1388398142 549235 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: when the type of something can depend on values < 1388398145 316053 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than the lamens description of it < 1388398151 92454 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it depends on an input value, yes < 1388398168 982642 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1388398170 918464 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*laymen's < 1388398194 425838 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few things that make them interesting from a language design perspective < 1388398197 973825 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would suggest that the type is only known at runtime... < 1388398201 15671 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1388398223 9828 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the final type is not known until runtime < 1388398240 69944 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you do various analyses at compile time < 1388398240 258198 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that the type is String if its input is True otherwise its a Float < 1388398250 118792 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in practice, you have to make these analyses < 1388398259 954863 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then typeof(foo (isSomeCrazyTheoryTrue)) is going to be difficult to tell at compile time < 1388398267 197137 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because dependent types are undecideable in general < 1388398300 275422 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1388398307 237088 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what makes them interesting from a language design standpoint < 1388398381 768918 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1388398389 162240 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :languages with dynamic types < 1388398401 923134 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no *real* difference to dependent types? < 1388398417 468848 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1388398427 850023 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you don't account for that they may depend on hidden state < 1388398452 918680 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but esentially dynamic types all depend on some value < 1388398681 446950 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically most dynamically typed languages have dependent types < 1388398696 634132 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's so very different from statically-checked dependent types < 1388398713 146186 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you hear "dependently-typed language" it almost exclusively means staticallly checked < 1388398866 613142 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which suggests that they are not turing complete < 1388398917 416444 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which doesn't really matter for what they are being used for apparentely < 1388398960 759108 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are undecideable < 1388399024 826995 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there is at least one program that can't be typechecked < 1388399038 976369 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you like to gloss over a bunch of important definitions and details, they're turing complete < 1388399492 901658 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm just angry because my school has absolutely nothing on that topic to teach < 1388399534 813944 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Introduction to proof assistants" would be an very interesting course < 1388399579 416296 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a fairly specialized field < 1388399790 231474 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the it department in turku, you don't learn what a turing machine is and probably you don't learn what first-class functions are either < 1388399792 204065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: turing completeness doesn't require every program in your language to be typechecked. it just requires it to be enough programs that can be, to emulate any turing machine. < 1388399851 250823 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mainly because the math department teaches that stuff probably, but still it's really sad) < 1388399873 707229 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and luckily you can already do that without the dependent types < 1388399910 316569 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :see: C++ < 1388400116 716989 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't learn what first-class functions are here neither < 1388400129 496429 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't even learn about functional programming languages < 1388400144 714447 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :however < 1388400173 656166 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what they do is make a 1500 slides long presentation about the .NET framework and then test that ;) < 1388400263 624140 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a course called declarative programming where you learn some scheme-like language (like 100 ways to print fibonacci type of stuff) < 1388400294 301540 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but almost no one takes that because you just read the book and take the exam < 1388400346 371054 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a couple of other decent courses, but most are 1500 slides about java < 1388400399 591493 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was one course about "ui techniques" where the lecturer basically went over the swing or whatever that one java library is called < 1388400404 17639 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1388400412 478152 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :meant to say went over the swing documentation < 1388400419 813847 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1388400421 901289 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :like all of it (or at least enough to fill the course) < 1388400422 655365 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate those courses < 1388400450 580288 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't pay them money to treat me like I'm stupid and can't read a library documentation < 1388400475 649290 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :he kept saying things like "of course the details of how java does this don't matter so much, only the general idea" < 1388400477 480160 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't pay them money to force me to memorize a library documentation < 1388400485 714258 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, my uni has a correctness by construction module but that's about as close as it gets < 1388400490 55697 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they do it anyway. < 1388400490 722378 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEN WHY DID YOU GO OVER _ALL_ THE DETAILS? < 1388400499 942959 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's in the third year < 1388400521 535407 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to proof assistants) < 1388400539 708964 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(functional programming is... slightly more common, one of my lecturers was an author of the Haskell report) < 1388400548 81296 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you meant that's as close as it gets to reading java documentation. < 1388400558 464228 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"otherwise we do decent stuff" < 1388400607 549037 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, I am not very good at logreading, I got chronologically displaced < 1388400613 687011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode Ⓐ < 1388400618 21616 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+24B6 CIRCLED LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A] < 1388400627 649654 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ö < 1388400629 235018 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00F6 LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH DIAERESIS] < 1388400652 507544 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :diaeresis sounds painful < 1388400675 730684 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 뷁 < 1388400677 189986 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+BDC1 HANGUL SYLLABLE BWELG] < 1388400705 98616 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 長 < 1388400706 657454 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+9577 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-9577] < 1388400716 307597 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is superficially similar to 튽 < 1388400758 99453 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 튽 < 1388400759 929320 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+D2BD HANGUL SYLLABLE TEUNJ] < 1388400801 240032 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it pronounced teunj < 1388400816 614930 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :튽arine < 1388400984 766154 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1388401095 570833 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, C# was designed to be safe, fast, and easy < 1388401113 464345 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: only to the untrained eye < 1388401148 676540 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or with a poor or small font < 1388401245 34110 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it's pronounced teun ("eu" being a vowel similar to "u" here), "j" is there for explaining various side effects with the following syllable < 1388401520 211675 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew this korean guy once < 1388401538 902726 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know any korean < 1388401710 438194 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :뷁 seems uncharacteristic < 1388401733 856831 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the sense that there are no circles or rectangels < 1388401736 560449 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rectangles < 1388401751 480624 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a very small rectangle i guess but it's hidden < 1388401778 622601 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1388401793 379441 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are seven verb paradigms or speech levels in Korean, and each level has its own unique set of verb endings which are used to indicate the level of formality of a situation." < 1388401805 374800 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems a bit excessive < 1388401816 442760 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seven paradigms and thousands of possible postpositions/suffixes. < 1388401832 49546 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :freakin hard for even Koreans. < 1388402070 782409 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew the korean guy because i was learning japanese and he was learning finnish, one time i asked him something like "korean has some type of honorifics too" (like japanese) < 1388402108 283656 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he was like lol you call these honorifics < 1388402127 485462 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(referring to the japanese ones) < 1388402141 781805 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i'm telling this story badly because i'm supposed to be downloading something for my gf. < 1388402382 546125 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting into new kernel < 1388402421 673831 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: do you use all of them < 1388402624 766354 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388402658 174221 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1388402660 686731 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: do you really think that I can count all of them? :x < 1388402668 702938 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you learnt japanese? < 1388402681 510578 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some knowledge of Japanese but not much. < 1388402688 833924 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me too < 1388402692 967792 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :watashi mo :) < 1388402715 504896 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: just mean the 7 paradigms < 1388402741 295354 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :sono ringo wo tabetai noni tabemasen <- that's about what I know :) < 1388402742 527694 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like have, for each paradigm, a couple of people you use it with < 1388402758 517259 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ah, I think not, there are some paradigms that have been obsoleted so far. < 1388402769 905092 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't eat that apple because i want to eat it? < 1388402771 351360 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't agree on the whole concept of seven paradigms at all < 1388402796 945938 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1388402798 959166 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: maybe "I want to eat that apple but can't" < 1388402817 725661 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk < 1388402832 77623 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't quite recall what noni means < 1388402871 760484 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though maybe < 1388402892 820736 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite the same as because i guess < 1388402998 611074 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :watashi wa sukoshi nihongo o benkyousurukoto ga arimasu < 1388403017 322897 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION generates a random list of words
< 1388403310 201889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders where sukoshi is these days
< 1388403369 445022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen sukoshi ever < 1388403400 418211 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1388403421 169529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen sukoshi ever < 1388403452 610700 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1388403463 373693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs sukoshi < 1388403475 734943 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.26340 < 1388403529 589955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `seen ... ever doesn't work too well when it's _really_ been a long time :( < 1388403631 960972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm here website is still running and looks updated. < 1388403634 841129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*her < 1388403652 905793 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1388403778 422811 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back (temporarily) < 1388403841 553806 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: the reason that I don't buy seven paradigms is simple, it does not fit to the current usage at all < 1388403916 785015 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "paradigms" are in fact a combination of T-V distinction (formality) and honorifics in my opinion < 1388404008 199033 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no clean distinction and hierarchy among numerous honorifics (i.e. only partial ordering exists) < 1388404062 138121 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so-called paradigms are merely a set of related honorifics that are used altogether (but sometimes not) < 1388404206 429600 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the current usage is much more like a simple distinction between informal and formal context, with contextual honorifics < 1388404279 546741 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1388404327 12283 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :T-V meaning tensor-vector, I assume < 1388404336 116466 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much like the old weak interaction theory < 1388404364 492101 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1388404381 413056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you're french i assume you're joking. < 1388404396 593156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1388404398 223999 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hon hon hon < 1388404401 605957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're obviously joking. < 1388404415 185140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since you're french i assume you also know the real meaning. < 1388404444 259324 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1388404449 348979 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that "tu-vous" < 1388404469 657885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i assumed. < 1388404480 574855 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(We don't actually use that word) < 1388404647 361925 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we still have a bit of a tv in finnish, but we're trying our best to get rid of it < 1388404715 20756 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume you mean transvestite < 1388404779 696771 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1388404857 484246 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388404923 767813 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388405196 377784 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388405198 778144 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388405665 761711 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388406866 387001 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388407008 915824 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388407651 361815 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or television < 1388408209 804284 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388408896 447064 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1388408908 533540 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388409010 290189 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Turnverein < 1388409021 87681 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuvalu < 1388409309 475473 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388409406 822057 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388409446 543785 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1388409446 731889 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1388411076 356686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1388411526 879082 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388411904 416358 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388412175 282327 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388412210 101775 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388412260 731184 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388412271 436859 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon matily < 1388412309 430348 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388412317 721532 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintohayō. < 1388412431 635809 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon metasepiatin < 1388412470 104990 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388413830 574775 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KATL < 1388413831 449506 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 301352Z 31007KT 9SM FEW044 SCT200 BKN250 06/04 A3013 RMK AO2 SLP208 VIRGA SW T00560044 < 1388413835 398103 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYQB < 1388413836 306205 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 301400Z 25021G27KT 20SM BLSN FEW025 FEW045 M14/M18 A2980 RMK SC1SC2 SC TR PRESRR SLP097 < 1388414808 392525 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just tried to estimate how many pages I'd need to use to write all my knowledge down :) < 1388414844 50830 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then again < 1388414851 792610 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many pages would the total human knowledge fill < 1388414858 257719 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :including deduplication of course < 1388414863 929175 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is gonna be hard to estimate < 1388414913 36975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1388414913 954442 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 301420Z 25012KT 9999 FEW011 BKN013 03/01 Q1010 NOSIG < 1388414920 291143 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like the strangest weather, it's a flat +3 .. +5 °C every day, night and day. < 1388414925 805189 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar Zurich < 1388414926 561987 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1388415453 920918 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar LSZH < 1388415454 784162 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LSZH 301450Z 35003KT 300V020 9000 SCT013 SCT018 03/M00 Q1025 NOSIG < 1388416463 694209 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESSA < 1388416464 401102 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSA 301450Z 23007KT CAVOK 01/M01 Q1015 R01L/29//95 R08/29//95 R01R/750166 NOSIG < 1388417181 847914 :Slereah!~jackal@24.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388417761 700584 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how squirrels can survive outside in Canadian winters... < 1388417782 22308 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they hibernate? < 1388417954 661280 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they hibernated that'd make more sense than running arround on electric lines all winter long. < 1388417983 316955 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apart from the bizareness of the situation, it's a nice sight to gaze upon when trying to debug badly engineered code.) < 1388417999 639807 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :electric lines? maybe they discovered electric heating < 1388418029 728023 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :power lines, not electric. (my French is slipping again... «fils électriques».) < 1388418042 698267 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and are you already back at work? < 1388418044 594989 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1388418065 575628 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I worked last week, and I'm working this week, but I'm still at my parents'. < 1388418754 515664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they steal energy from the power lines by induction? < 1388419208 473045 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would explain their running. a magnetic squirrel moving relatively to an EM field would produce current. and because squirrel have a non-null resistance (I hope squirrels aren't superconductors), they heat. < 1388419253 772808 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :research continues on squirrel-temperature super conductors < 1388419715 710050 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the average surface area of a transverse squirrel cross-section? < 1388419752 355767 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one SQSq ) < 1388419776 625547 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that would've been something else if backspace was not so close to enter < 1388419786 376708 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(“A sciurinæ or a xerinæ?“ “I don't know. Ayeeeeeeeee!”) < 1388420164 982556 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388420994 852090 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388421437 906560 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-39-64.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388421880 577260 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-69-102.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388422606 876130 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388423444 896613 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388423685 248925 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388423843 14583 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, herobrine confirmed removed in 1.8. < 1388424029 750113 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you hate herobrine, right? < 1388424030 193531 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: but _you_ said that any sufficiently complicated common lisp or scheme. shivers is hiding in his lair at ga tech and lay siege upon olin's office in order to < 1388424043 892144 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I said no such thing < 1388424044 99686 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well, i already have my right hand and had to check that < 1388424092 724209 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: fungot checked. you said it. < 1388424093 134565 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: all whitespace between the sexpr delimiters remains untouched. would *you* believe a claim the it was a major program, mis management information systems. < 1388424157 365558 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, mis management information systems, isn't that what you're working with? < 1388424197 883880 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I deny any implication I'm misinformating for money. < 1388424204 560157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you swear or affirm that olsner said it < 1388424204 830936 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: s k and fnord? to avoid cluttering the namespace with names like head tail. < 1388424352 505626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: s k < 1388424352 749021 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i was confused again. ' huh what did that mean? i know some of those < 1388424380 275653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you gotta know them all < 1388424380 542515 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: when will you find out how many bytes a jmp call would take. no other reason than the fact that people can watch the original lectures < 1388424411 349953 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: from whom? < 1388424411 551252 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so the until-test will change their minds < 1388424451 968268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: until (their minds are changed) { show them the original lectures }? < 1388424452 340456 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: only things in that directory. this way of conditional jump. no saving of the stack. why make every implementation keep waaaaay more functionality that is found in macosx? < 1388424456 330774 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the Master said to the Pupil: “you will understand the Namespace Original Lectures when you Mind will have been Changed byt the Until-Test.” < 1388424485 206637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that is the Way of the Conditional Jump < 1388424526 293658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is wise < 1388424526 499561 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: srfi-18 to be specific < 1388424541 392657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multithreading support < 1388424632 389571 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concurrent fungots. < 1388424632 633228 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mostly using scheme in your kernel: http://savannah.nongnu.org/ projects/ fnord/ examples/ fnord that? < 1388424641 202182 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that sounds like the way to go. < 1388424659 611358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concurrent fizzies. < 1388424677 592938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps fungot *is* fizzie. < 1388424677 835120 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not an issue here.)" fnord norvig is a traitor!! < 1388424730 197428 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I got a coin with my face on it. (There was a show about coins at the local "science center", and it included this machine where you could take a photo and have a machine use lasers to burn it on a coin.) < 1388424734 189417 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, I don't think it works as money anywhere. < 1388424751 300256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would take it < 1388424803 488599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i would take it at face value < 1388424858 599162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131230-coin.jpg it looks like that < 1388424874 772367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziecoin < 1388424883 697891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he latest in cryptocurrency < 1388424886 70388 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1388424889 80150 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I forgot to photograph the other side, but it just has the http://heureka.fi/ logo on it.) < 1388424925 622654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that looks like the face value is 2013 fizzies. < 1388424935 468937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if I can afford that. < 1388424948 254498 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cost of postage would be great. < 1388425036 911913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can i have a coin with YOUR face on it < 1388425037 116776 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: all bf-complete with upper memory bound 40" at < 1388425048 705676 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite a coin. < 1388425049 914793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can i have a hug with your face on it :'( < 1388425050 193524 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: am i the only one i've been toying around with beamer, but i really like are the use of an interface. what point are you trying to do < 1388425354 934436 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388426011 928436 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388426269 384259 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-69-102.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388426320 933488 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388426344 756760 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388428013 850111 :nemcevs!~nemcevs@91.210.100.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388428054 235404 :nemcevs!~nemcevs@91.210.100.124 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388428078 957843 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/search?q=smell%20colon < 1388428109 480331 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyyyyyyyyy do people /join then immediately /part... I need my daily fix of `relcomming! < 1388428124 113173 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome boily < 1388428127 339454 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02boily: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13irc.dal.net.) < 1388428217 831044 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION grins, relaxes, slumps in his chair like a junkie.
< 1388428244 721196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Misread "grinds". Made that sound slightly suspicious. < 1388428245 29658 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388428260 102844 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you gutterminded fiend. < 1388428271 453933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, I don't know what got ground there. < 1388428292 941713 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez fizzie, it was just a perfectly innocent #drugz reference < 1388428323 244736 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#drugz references are never innocent < 1388428400 177144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :re "grinds" https://twitter.com/unhush/status/416404349527396352 < 1388428416 406745 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time someone referes to #drugz, one of the FSM's noodles gets boiled past al dente. < 1388428478 755235 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the pastafarian equivalent to one tanathokitten.) < 1388428507 712572 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rugged < 1388428757 931745 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah "al dente" < 1388428888 236400 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg 30C3 has a pneumatic mail system with 1.4 km of tubes < 1388428892 30624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so wish I had gone < 1388428903 428999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw your christmas mom and dad, I'm going to party with a bunch of German hackers < 1388428924 477475 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388428959 860480 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip kmc, partied too hard < 1388429157 897494 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dibs on every maple-y possession of kmc! < 1388429198 417165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1388429495 926177 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: he's dead. you can have anything else if you want. < 1388429523 363416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i have his soul < 1388429591 433754 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :please yourself. < 1388429939 201545 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388429991 757954 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388430395 280168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1388430410 772390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :torrent stalled at 99.9% WHYYYYY < 1388430422 767547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sinners in the hands of an angry god < 1388430437 351472 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur like a spider over the flame < 1388430599 626599 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a snail crawling along the edge of a straight razor < 1388430625 294918 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... don't remember that part < 1388430636 483066 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow >_< < 1388430698 558372 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur like a babylonian. < 1388430886 638412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :simmer in the hands of an angry god for 30 minutes, then serve immediately < 1388430966 322523 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://boscoh.com/protein/a-sign-a-flipped-structure-and-a-scientific-flameout-of-epic-proportions.html remember to test your code, friends < 1388430977 842074 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summer in the hands of an angry god for 3 months, then season accordingly. < 1388431102 58400 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :punny < 1388431114 53640 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1388431142 873770 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: lift your skinny fists like antennas to heaven < 1388431273 551104 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 2000 double album released by the Canadian post-rock group Godspeed You! Black Emperor. < 1388431286 215328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1388431309 659855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Montrealer post-rock group, even < 1388431339 452583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a post-rock a rock that you attach a message to and throw through someone's window < 1388431340 810547 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :double? < 1388431359 953585 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's rock-post. a post-rock is a rock you use to hammer posts into the ground. < 1388431362 779788 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a post-rock is the analog version of an authenticating HMAC. < 1388431378 512532 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: double means they use key strengthening. < 1388431539 913796 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1388431560 190973 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hezzo38. quick! grab everything you want from kmc! < 1388431605 66286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not dead yet < 1388431631 435441 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonsense. < 1388431758 599413 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there is something I wanted to grab from kmc, as far as I know. < 1388431809 619153 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i call his devastating good looks and saving accounts < 1388431822 328053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks bike < 1388431840 701538 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some MUD other people can grab everything they want from me when I am dead, but that's only for me, not if other people are dead. < 1388431865 956579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: organ donor < 1388431903 882267 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't need any of your organ at this time. < 1388431907 458303 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good song < 1388431922 914856 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote kmc: I don't need any of your organ at this time. < 1388431926 583381 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1151) kmc: I don't need any of your organ at this time. < 1388431932 471912 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, would getting kmc's thalamus too be too greedy < 1388431945 820081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i I don't need any of your oerjan at this time < 1388431970 656162 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :“your oerjan”? < 1388431978 889900 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many oerjan do you have zzo38 < 1388431998 324475 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Nothing. < 1388432038 785527 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :response invalid < 1388432104 23618 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Oerjan < 1388432104 900595 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: data constructor `Oerjan' < 1388432158 914716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't take it with you with the IRC anyways, but that is OK because it isn't necessary anyways. Therefore, it is OK that I don't think there is something I wanted to grab from kmc, as far as I know. < 1388432181 270098 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Just < 1388432182 56428 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> Maybe a < 1388432227 637572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: organ donor more like organ doner < 1388432315 124804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :döner < 1388432344 82838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that < 1388432367 862475 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yummy < 1388432428 456711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let just :: a -> Maybe a; just _ = Nothing < 1388432429 863310 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1388432956 260033 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Just just < 1388432957 124112 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe (a -> Maybe a) < 1388432981 411105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you know ¬¬LEM is unprovable constructively < 1388432993 89768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1388432998 749720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you prove that < 1388433025 931208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1388433027 659550 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I nstructive coproof < 1388433050 443241 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the distinction is between ¬¬(forall a. a + ¬a) and forall a. ¬¬(a + ¬a) < 1388433169 363274 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would though, think that (Cont r (Either a (a -> Cont r b))); you have to apply the double-negative transform (or continuation passing transform) to *both* sides, isn't it? < 1388433368 588170 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric : I've been using turned-E as shorthand for "exists" since college, and in recent years I've been using turned-K for "known". The former is a standard logical convention, but I pulled the latter out of my ass. Is there a conventional symbol for "known"? < 1388433426 645131 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What logic will use a symbol for "known", anyways? < 1388433516 493904 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric : it comes up in epistemological analysis, which comes up often in distributed systems < 1388433537 939302 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric : the logic where you pull something out of your ass and assert it < 1388433552 467189 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric : f0rk: That comes up in business analysis. < 1388433571 250819 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric : w00t .. a geek in another channel pointed me at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemic_logic#Syntax < 1388433700 864078 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: are you implying there are other chännels out there as geeky as us? < 1388433721 82109 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have never eaten a chicken head < 1388433755 558039 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1388433758 702533 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... wut? < 1388433768 938727 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric : I've never eaten a chicken head either < 1388433778 619404 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for your support f0rk < 1388433814 201170 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric : You've never eaten a mcnugget? < 1388433829 272088 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god no < 1388433831 204165 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geek_show < 1388433894 509557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: interesting < 1388433905 132615 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: indeed. < 1388433917 228559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmmmmodal logic < 1388433964 766075 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: irc.perl.org/#perl < 1388433985 389952 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. not gonna join. #perl people make me feel... squeamish. < 1388433996 617696 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think I never ate a chicken head. probably. < 1388434003 34970 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (1 - x) ^ 3 < 1388434004 142855 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : (1 - x) * (1 - x) * (1 - x) < 1388434009 837611 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you < 1388434015 942009 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1388434023 272936 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am NOT in the mood for binomial expansion < 1388434025 769965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did #perl people do < 1388434033 880126 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, which #perl < 1388434034 797669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I am NOT in the mood for binomial expansion < 1388434038 325975 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1152) I am NOT in the mood for binomial expansion < 1388434045 484557 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the one on irc.perl.org is more like #perl-blah < 1388434047 127933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1388434055 494426 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 - 3x + 3x^2 - x^3, right? < 1388434071 2387 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: scratch the hash. perl people in general weird me. < 1388434089 503077 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a perl people < 1388434104 909832 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388434122 736871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION spots (1 - x)^3 expanded
< 1388434128 41652 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: shouldbe < 1388434153 53049 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x -> 1 - 3*x + 3*x^2 - x^3 == (1 - x)^3 < 1388434154 450562 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1388434163 842955 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the saddest algebra < 1388434179 357947 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1388434190 784849 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, my use for this is virtually non-existent < 1388434205 851383 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to derive a list 2-zipper < 1388434211 946614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess recognizing a few levels of pascal's triangle is a good math skill < 1388434229 687625 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I can, but not at this time of the day < 1388434288 324215 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why I missed something obvious four lines of working earlier < 1388434297 767899 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: have you read this year's tasty blogpost in 24 days of hackage? < 1388434312 235998 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no < 1388434374 927745 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :� < 1388434382 920730 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :ω̈ < 1388434440 63282 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ȍ. < 1388434444 340820 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it still feels like this carries too much information < 1388434452 266714 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: http://ocharles.org.uk/blog/posts/2013-12-03-24-days-of-hackage-tasty.html, and also http://ocharles.org.uk/blog/guest-posts/2013-12-09-24-days-of-hackage-sbv.html < 1388434454 449653 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :.̈ < 1388434475 197537 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: also, https://github.com/pfcuttle/twentyfour-2013 (that one needs to be updated to cover the latest posts...) < 1388434493 629771 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: glad to see you fully embrace this chännel's diæresisity :D < 1388434523 795685 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also support `àwesome quoteś´ < 1388434559 379980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ẁoẃ´ < 1388434560 497446 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ẁoẃ´: not found < 1388434595 432557 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: I also mapped some keys on my ░▒▓█layout█▓░ to get fancy blocks, but I don't use them often. < 1388434598 609680 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best I can do manually is ListZipper2 = LZ2 a (Maybe (a, [a])) [a] [a] < 1388434654 17535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa < 1388434658 772222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you trying to do here < 1388434716 609985 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: meh, tasty looks overcomplicated < 1388434722 77662 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, be less curry infested < 1388434739 980216 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also oh god that is wrong < 1388434746 441686 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: but I understand it! (fsvo understanding.) < 1388434749 260310 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have trusted my maths < 1388434755 326024 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'd rather have Test::More < 1388434793 529571 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: maybe you should trust oerjan. < 1388434799 600710 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: humbug. < 1388434805 98117 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :bumhug < 1388434838 338115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fizzie < 1388434840 304860 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is not fnord with a monad. < 1388434878 497841 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned that from fungot, unsurprisingly. < 1388434878 739178 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's mine, and hope we both post to the wiki < 1388434880 550644 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(previously, fizzie was also the creator of minecraft.) < 1388434889 778949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the king of #esoteric, see https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131230-coin.jpg < 1388434894 314875 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1388434900 579526 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I am ssh'ing to a server where I have nano open which I am using to do differentiation < 1388434904 625828 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a bitcoin < 1388434908 761224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you think it looks kingly? < 1388434917 838081 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fungot. now I'm stuck to insert pictures into the PDF. < 1388434918 43862 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: they implement dynamic-wind call/ cc? < 1388434927 550445 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (Also I guess only king for the rest of 2013.) < 1388434930 216622 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no. it's a stack-based language. < 1388434930 500472 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the scheme markup/ document preparation system out there, and it would be better < 1388434933 981178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you don't get more royal around here < 1388434946 644630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: It's a fizziecoin, I hear they're the latest craze. < 1388434962 730905 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. much value. such PDF. very Finland! < 1388434965 403378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can i be king of #esoteric 2014 < 1388434967 570350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or president < 1388434971 493061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or tiger in chief < 1388434972 681600 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer dogecoins < 1388434973 299313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything < 1388434979 842275 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I have voice? < 1388434985 298035 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Quit: Changing server < 1388434986 226879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i have hug < 1388434990 391905 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nt sure you're qualified to be tiger in chief < 1388435029 987345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: uh p. sure i am < 1388435033 796917 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1388435062 573754 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro < 1388435063 678566 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :please provide a CV listing your previous chieftanisms < 1388435082 569439 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :boily > 1388435083 189316 NAMES :#esoteric < 1388435084 220161 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, to examples of zebrafish genetic modifications. < 1388435092 228685 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks oerjan < 1388435093 480123 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, oerjan. Thoerjan. < 1388435118 387074 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM THE (HOW DO I INSERT FIGURES AGAIN?) VOICE! < 1388435122 920796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131230-coin.jpg < 1388435124 758892 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It should be noted that no ethically-trained software engineer would ever consent to write a DestroyBaghdad procedure. Basic professional ethics would instead require him to write a DestroyCity procedure, to which Baghdad could be given as a parameter." --Nathaniel Borenstein < 1388435127 468045 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-12-30 20:25:26 URL:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131230-coin.jpg [230556/230556] -> "20131230-coin.jpg" [1] < 1388435152 574374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i am cuddly like a tiger and also soft and have fur and stripes < 1388435157 221525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are no other tigers in here < 1388435159 625166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv 20131230-coin.jpg src/fizziecoin.jpg < 1388435163 85803 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1388435172 996068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url src/fizziecoin.jpg < 1388435174 763743 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg < 1388435217 24070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg < 1388435222 73984 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1388435232 702299 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people who taneb is not < 1388435234 652172 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond < 1388435252 817721 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1388435258 935019 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is not on that list < 1388435263 414347 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore I am fizzie < 1388435273 107473 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore I am not winning... :( < 1388435362 173631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh fungot. now I'm stuck to insert pictures into the PDF. <-- whoops. well i'm sure it's possible somehow. < 1388435362 519071 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: newtype location location fnord:: double... line though. < 1388435387 576137 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :good newtype < 1388435448 808622 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :such fungot < 1388435449 13737 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's a fnord gate, copy the stack into somewhere else in your family? < 1388435498 669316 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :under the overpass, over the undertow, through the fnord gate, copy the stack and receive fungot < 1388435498 913222 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: does someone from peoria have a shorter version with just cons* macros. < 1388435513 926728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some more idea too, about some kind of computer game based on ideas in another dream I have had previously < 1388435558 477399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am currently having problems distinguishing zzo38 and fungot. < 1388435558 811631 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: gauche " hello, world!" get into there? iteration is where it's at. < 1388435578 338149 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Then turn on the display of the sender of each message. < 1388435645 85654 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388435652 472299 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the PDF, it is updated. < 1388435656 683129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1388435665 515168 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added the fizziecoin to it. < 1388435669 356125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1388435742 179415 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I knew it was going to end up in print, I'd've uploaded a higher-resolution version. < 1388435748 29426 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a website that emulated mosaic or netscape or something so i can see old renders of modern webistes to amuse myself < 1388435768 896920 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :get real mosaic < 1388435783 59177 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, that sounds suspiciously like work. < 1388435804 384379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://twitter.com/search?q=smell%20colon <-- you know, i think i'll pass. < 1388435810 547632 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to find a publisher who can get me the PDF printed on A5 paper... < 1388435821 380916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's way funnier than you think < 1388435835 857017 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'll admit it took me a few tweets to understand what was going on. < 1388435871 167317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: will my mind and remaining faith in humanity survive visiting it? < 1388435879 570683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unclear < 1388435888 386752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wait you still have some left < 1388435916 69451 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lends some of his own sanity over to oerjan
< 1388435982 640859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION now is somehow thoroughly convinced of his sanity despite all the evidence
< 1388436342 806275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks his sanity survived that link, in a hypothetical manner
< 1388436351 344772 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Convinsanity Brand®! The best OTC sanity on the market! For all your sanity troubles, demand Convinsanity! < 1388436386 140872 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(side effects may include delusions, sightings of moose, alopecia, and a hunger for tofu. If you are a pregnant marmoset, do not take Convinsanity.) < 1388436418 457393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck alopecia < 1388436419 311523 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alopecia (from Classical Greek < 1388436428 215006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, metasepia. < 1388436434 188173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn alopecia < 1388436435 955106 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "alopecia" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1388436436 155008 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alopecia < 1388436436 155179 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: loss of hair (especially on the head) or loss of wool or < 1388436437 654015 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : feathers; in humans it can result from heredity or hormonal < 1388436441 631332 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : imbalance or certain diseases or drugs and treatments < 1388436443 632081 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : (chemotherapy for cancer) < 1388436496 8356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives boily's sanity back, after spraying it with colon
< 1388436556 91942 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: your bot has contaminated and corrupted mine. he hasn't balanced his parenthesises! < 1388436585 831379 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of moose, I forgot my orange one on my desk back in Montréal. < 1388436586 903066 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc (1 + 2 < 1388436587 105899 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 < 1388436595 732217 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs balanced parens anyway < 1388436599 888497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you did not say removing your sanity again would cause instant near-fatal laughter < 1388436602 778878 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, a new bot! < 1388436634 166954 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm listening to an experimental album. it is forbidden by law to laugh during listening to experimental music. < 1388436642 782046 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: botsnack < 1388436642 985193 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : yum < 1388436647 905689 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: 2st < 1388436648 107081 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: 2st 4 < 1388436648 107259 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1388436657 921618 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: 6st 4 < 1388436658 125809 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4th < 1388436669 857169 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: poke < 1388436682 688196 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: hello < 1388436683 284875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PART #esoteric :" fizzie: it makes demons fly out of my window, washing the windows api" < 1388436690 79767 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. not very talkative, eh? < 1388436692 723955 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there we go < 1388436692 929172 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: 6st 5 < 1388436693 214456 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5th < 1388436695 563143 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :its default action is silence < 1388436696 81067 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex doesn't like me :( < 1388436706 304574 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc head [1, 2, 3] < 1388436706 506137 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : Lexical error < 1388436717 250605 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc [2] .* [3] < 1388436717 250749 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : Lexical error < 1388436726 375530 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 1i < 1388436726 579908 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : Lexical error < 1388436743 923203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc (head [1, 2, 3] < 1388436744 124591 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : Lexical error < 1388436753 177698 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 1 2 3 + * < 1388436753 370133 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7 < 1388436823 66185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 2 2 2 2 2 ^ ^ ^ ^ < 1388436823 267106 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : inf < 1388436848 278631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WEAK < 1388436870 896832 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :exercise: explain why the expression above results in 7 < 1388436872 59506 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 2 ^ 2 ^ 2 ^ 2 ^ 2 < 1388436874 467182 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1388436879 465381 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 2 ^ 2 ^ 2 ^ 2 ^ 2 < 1388436880 737514 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :20035299304068464649790723515602557504478254755697514192650169737108940595563114530895061308809333481010382343429072631818229493821188126688695063647615470291650418719163515879663472194429309279820843091048559905701593189596395248633723672030029169695921561087649488892540908059114570376752085002066715637023661263597471448071117748158809141357427209671901518362825606180914588526998261414250301233911082736038437678764490432059603791244909057075603140350 < 1388436899 640905 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some tall numbers for a cuttlefish < 1388436908 822496 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pats his bot
< 1388436934 104205 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 1 2 3 + * < 1388436934 830579 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): :1:9: parse error on input `*' < 1388436937 104790 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :weak < 1388437072 55069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 1 2 + 3 * < 1388437072 256847 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7 < 1388437085 502135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 1 2 + < 1388437085 703564 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 < 1388437094 5478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 3 3 * < 1388437094 209295 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9 < 1388437109 789012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc * + 1 2 3 < 1388437109 984777 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1388437144 808212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc + * 1 2 3 < 1388437145 12290 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7 < 1388437198 385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 1 1 1 1 1 1 * + * + + < 1388437198 241615 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1388437219 239851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my theory seems to hold < 1388437241 312556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 2 ^ 2 ^ 2 ^ 2 ^ 2 < 1388437241 520936 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : inf < 1388437247 71954 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is your theory? < 1388437249 523862 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 1 2 2 2 + * * < 1388437249 730242 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9 < 1388437262 897917 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc + * * 1 2 2 2 < 1388437263 99433 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9 < 1388437266 678112 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc + * * 2 2 2 1 < 1388437266 882726 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6 < 1388437272 583410 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fungot is going on. < 1388437272 824183 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: gonna go get it now? i seem to remember < 1388437291 292698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it's spreading the operators between the numbers and then interpreting the result as infix < 1388437306 560515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 1 2 + 3 < 1388437306 759936 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : Too many operands < 1388437350 134465 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's equivalent to the truth < 1388437361 477190 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: but then, + * * 1 2 2 2 should produce 12? < 1388437373 47539 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait. < 1388437373 251923 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1388437382 970843 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :operator precedence. < 1388437392 667409 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 1( + 2 < 1388437392 871031 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 < 1388437396 218637 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about this one? < 1388437410 130744 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc (1 2) 2 2 + * * < 1388437410 336423 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9 < 1388437414 504493 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1388437426 402347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1388437431 57718 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 1 2 2 2 +) * * < 1388437431 259256 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12 < 1388437513 708846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 2 2 2 2 2 ^ ) ^ ) ^ ) ^ < 1388437513 962668 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 65536 < 1388437587 250912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 2 2 2 2 2 ^ ( ^ ^ ) ^ < 1388437587 493023 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.157920892373162e+77 < 1388437617 652569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^16^2 < 1388437618 790338 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639936 < 1388437628 385734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2**16**2 < 1388437629 512670 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.157920892373162e77 < 1388437684 938997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am guessing it adds ('s to the left end and )'s to the right end until parentheses balance < 1388437709 198151 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the string rewriting interpretation < 1388437769 577279 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual parsing algorithm is one I invented myself when I didn't know about recursive descent < 1388437789 236939 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 2 2 2 ( ( ^ ^ < 1388437789 438941 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 16 < 1388437821 674437 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider a simple expression of the form expr := value (operator value)* < 1388437847 348476 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, an expression is a sequence of one or more values with operators in between < 1388437884 2285 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :the parser proceeds by reading symbols from left to right and inserting each into the expression tree < 1388437924 995628 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :the expression tree starts out as a simple value hole at the root < 1388437956 121651 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :each value is inserted at the hole (there is always exactly one hole when a value is read) < 1388437987 234623 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :operators climb down the right hand side of the tree < 1388438024 411691 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :when they hit a value, they replace it by a new node of the form (operator, value, ), thus forming a new hole at the rightmost leaf of the tree < 1388438038 862504 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :when they hit an operator, they do battle by comparing their precedence < 1388438096 942562 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388438110 122254 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the new operator has a higher precedence, it continues climbing down < 1388438127 821721 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it does an insert at the current node, using the old node as its left subtree < 1388438169 467866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens when you insert more than one value before getting any operators < 1388438182 64597 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't happen in the current model < 1388438193 965614 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're still considering simple expressions only < 1388438206 743914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1388438216 471748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 1 1 1 1 + + + < 1388438216 672965 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1388438234 490500 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :parens are handled by giving each operator node an instance precedence (in addition to its base precedence) < 1388438267 769018 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. + has a base precedence of 1 (and * 2) < 1388438310 140505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: in 1 1 1 1 + + + what happens when the second 1 is parsed < 1388438317 173298 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance precedence = current level * max precedence + base precedence < 1388438327 831403 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :the current level starts out as 0 < 1388438338 292851 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :( increments the current level; ) decrements it < 1388438371 116441 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus )+ forms an operator with precedence = -1 * 3 + 1 = -2 < 1388438397 346753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1388438412 927773 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :what preflex actually uses is an extension of this algorithm < 1388438425 607028 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :all values are put into a separate list < 1388438426 861466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 1 1 1 1 ( ) + + + < 1388438427 63990 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1388438439 271477 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :the operators are used to construct the expression tree < 1388438449 489077 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :Z[_] < 1388438449 688794 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :all leaves of the expression tree will be holes < 1388438456 102233 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the values are inserted from left to right < 1388438506 829230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1388438507 654852 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388438520 657506 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: calc 1 + + 2 < 1388438520 862724 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not enough mana < 1388438539 407686 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :it first checks to see whether the number of holes matches the number of values < 1388438677 485964 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :ploki doesn't use this algorithm because I knew even less about parsers when I "designed" ploki < 1388438695 372142 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ploki simply evaluates left to right) < 1388438704 595511 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1388438789 966914 :Z[_]!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :Z[_][_] < 1388438872 776900 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '(1 + 2 * 3' | ploki < 1388438874 236064 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 < 1388438881 658718 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but you still don't have to balance your parens) < 1388438881 939034 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1388438947 17529 :Z[_][_]!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :Z[_][_][_] < 1388439027 289497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '(1 + 2) * (3 + 4)' | ploki < 1388439028 895877 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :21 < 1388439123 419162 :Z[_][_][_]!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :Zuu < 1388439433 753 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1388439582 196834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott i'm not sure if that thing you removed was trolling, but if not it's probably something worse than lolcode... < 1388439582 392786 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388439648 755674 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :worse than lolcode? < 1388439680 770552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the poster seemed to speak entirely in lolspeak < 1388439698 279856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reverted it because I know exactly what it is < 1388439702 199818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the post was contentless < 1388439720 914736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what is c+= then? < 1388439723 57585 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a message from a lolorc from loldor... < 1388439743 568229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sort of hard to google < 1388439996 723564 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moved over to the basement and the hearth → https://www.dropbox.com/s/grejkhn9px0mxj6/2013-12-30%2016.44.31.jpg < 1388440103 682664 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fire is good. I like fire.) < 1388440179 856827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1388440181 982610 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is the brother of Roujo's brother and he's monetizing the company Roujo works at, or something Canadian like that. He's also a NaniDispenser, and a Man Eating Chicken. < 1388440254 352074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so long... < 1388440314 311016 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. there were also other things going on in my description before it got munged, mashed, reworked, and completely upheaved. < 1388440365 152946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "Fire is good. I like fire. Also chicken." >wisdom/'things boily likes' < 1388440368 555727 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1388440455 323284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "Fire is good. I like fire. Also chicken. And phở." >wisdom/'things boily likes' < 1388440458 968931 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1388440469 131098 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aurgh! < 1388440478 934256 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just as I updated the PDF. < 1388440485 522333 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you are merciless. < 1388440508 829275 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still a bit surprised it isn't automatic. (With a DSL of exceptions for exceptional entries.) < 1388440532 330426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep ở wisdom/* < 1388440535 644696 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Binary file wisdom/irrelevant info matches \ wisdom/phở:phở là một món ăn truyền thống của Việt Nam, cũng có thể xem là một trong những món ăn đặc trưng nhất cho ẩm thực Việt Nam. \ wisdom/things boily likes:Fire is good. I like fire. Also chicken. And phở. < 1388440572 934586 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's... well. uhm. I... you see... < 1388440575 774707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well at least i didn't make you bring up an entirely new language font this time. < 1388440578 104146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? irrelevant info < 1388440580 175639 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :K�H�L?����%y�9v���n�kM_��v�4�6���$Tn�`��ʋ�xk��H2���gq�H;!�;2�F�(zإ���2C�m��X��W < 1388440584 265781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. < 1388440615 893070 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'd have to say the vietnamese was the hardest “feature” I had to mix in the PDF. < 1388440635 437633 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I shamelessly skipped that one. if you want, you can add it and commit the changes. < 1388440650 890753 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388440663 958279 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, it sounds a bit ambiguous as for rendering, what with all those control characters. < 1388440683 574637 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://examplea.acom/ < 1388440688 630268 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1388440740 282790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/p/P/' wisdom/phở < 1388440743 975049 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1388440751 822767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? phở < 1388440753 638765 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phở là một món ăn truyền thống của Việt Nam, cũng có thể xem là một trong những món ăn đặc trưng nhất cho ẩm thực Việt Nam. < 1388440870 82232 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388441866 16759 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1388442397 42762 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought of the day: would be nice to know some statistics on how much sieni.us has been watched while being some kind of intoxicated, and how much not. (Was trying to find out why a melody was familiar.) < 1388442430 478833 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am thinking of switching operating systems < 1388442464 531496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PART #esoteric :" fizzie: it makes demons fly out of my window, washing the windows api" < 1388442519 321479 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what OS should I use < 1388442528 163114 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMPORTANT QUESTION WITH NEXT TO NO CONTEXT < 1388442609 386497 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :TempleOS < 1388442622 102407 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^^^^^^^^^ < 1388442655 459218 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1388442660 557834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TempleOS is some sort of newfangled nonsense, LoseThos or bust. < 1388442697 641493 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for a (serious|boring) answer, I would think it sort of depends on what you're "gunna" be doing with it. < 1388442726 90836 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly browsing the web and trying to program, occasional gaming < 1388442736 594557 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :win xp < 1388442779 199088 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :MacOS and NetWare 5 that boot simultaneously. < 1388442779 455373 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1388442804 213890 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :coyotos < 1388442807 406122 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thinking of throwing myself at NixOS < 1388442858 209871 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just used a dual-boot Debian + Windows for pretty much those things, but that's really the boringest. (Functional, though.) < 1388442973 890439 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388443008 111894 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles mauke
< 1388443038 136373 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: don't listen to this rag-tag bunch of non-believers. use the REALEST MOST BESTEST OS OF THEM ALL! < 1388443064 136502 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: embrace linux. become one with it. abandon your soul to the bien-être of the Penguin! < 1388443085 481966 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :slackware or gentoo? < 1388443098 392532 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION continues to mapole mauke
< 1388443100 767037 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arch! < 1388443118 262400 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... had problems with Arch that will not occur this time but now I am scared of Arch < 1388443157 431846 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arch is the best. < 1388443164 727909 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you dare say otherwise. < 1388443183 42686 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never said it wasn't! Only that it scared me. < 1388443198 646676 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's even a wiki page for that! https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_is_the_best < 1388443221 312425 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not know that existed. Thank you. < 1388443519 952620 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1388443647 313532 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Quit: TIMED CHICKEN < 1388443649 273318 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388444828 765461 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4C758.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388444871 300012 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :'embrace linux'? I think boily wants you to attempt LFS, Taneb < 1388444887 693323 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1388444960 916149 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he just meant to give linux a hug, it needs it < 1388445026 477516 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does. < 1388445761 328204 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like "arch iz da shizzle ma nizzle" < 1388446015 192888 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"haskell - the language where IO is easy and unproblematic" < 1388446055 561623 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i personally use a perl ffi for output in all my haskell programs < 1388446238 284124 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This typewriter was the best 5 pounds I have ever spend < 1388447654 817758 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388448081 251311 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : I... had problems with Arch that will not occur this time but now I am scared of Arch < 1388448081 565305 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've used arch for like two years < 1388448084 233603 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am scared of arch < 1388448099 626613 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't make the mistakes i did! < 1388448430 840432 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :arch is scary as shit but it's not as scary as slackware. < 1388449022 360340 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388449200 270379 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388449821 926013 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388449839 892320 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388449970 432701 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1NTc cool < 1388450691 509880 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is arch scary? < 1388450764 902527 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388450851 72815 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, I had some problems installing it on my laptop due to problems with a) the university internet, and b) my laptop < 1388450861 521708 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it gave me NOTHING < 1388450863 162940 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOTHING < 1388450881 268878 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i saw Arch in the gym once, trying to bench press like three hundred pounds. they almost managed it, but couldn't, and got so frustrated, they kicked the bed and it fell over < 1388450910 705558 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1388450939 950637 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right? I mean you have to worry about that. < 1388451056 557209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn straight < 1388451290 585051 :carado!~user4539@mar44-5-88-182-30-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388451292 379057 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388452552 340083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1388454756 946614 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388454790 974454 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388455316 811381 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388455418 733466 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388455988 941468 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388456336 34734 :korisha!~korisha@91.210.100.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388456386 555523 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388456941 158146 :korisha!~korisha@91.210.100.183 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388457243 245645 :ksendzova!~ksendzova@91.210.100.126 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388457463 207289 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-130-194.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: https://proofmarket.org/ < 1388457472 561973 :ksendzova!~ksendzova@91.210.100.126 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388457489 72484 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388457568 834244 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388459276 375292 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388460791 167840 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1388461253 597777 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388461580 830840 :sseehh_!~USERRR@c-24-131-65-218.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388461641 942885 :sseehh_!~USERRR@c-24-131-65-218.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1388463325 210211 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't robotstxt.org used to not have ads/ < 1388463400 652508 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O 2007 it switched. I feel old. < 1388463477 76723 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 2007 i was six years old < 1388463544 890272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1388463553 886102 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1388463554 113697 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that... doesn't quite add up < 1388463626 420243 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i was twelve i couldn't have gotten so blazed with sgeo back in indiana < 1388463718 650644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1388463733 408072 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388463809 364137 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool party once we figured out how to circumvent the import restrictions. can you believe they won't let you bring kegs of potassium iodide? < 1388464961 224057 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1388464971 352398 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1388465101 753272 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388465129 989374 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1388465155 164925 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex NICK :preflex < 1388465202 763450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :today in SF i saw a billboard reading "Facebook is #1, huh? I dare you to check out www.PrimeHangout.com Let the competition begin" < 1388465276 307434 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kidneyfilm < 1388465293 27042 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anusblog < 1388465299 998977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/search?q=smell%20colon < 1388465335 313936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i double dog dare you to check it out < 1388465578 206745 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388465629 611922 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388465663 958738 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388465691 880260 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388465957 870654 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388467520 39916 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is unsure if Oz's approach to IO is morally distinct from lazy I/O
< 1388467525 510480 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least Oz doesn't claim to be pure < 1388467543 906511 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can see finalization being a problem... I think < 1388467598 926800 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388468184 522871 :drlemon!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388469240 826839 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A nice screenshot of Mozart/Oz in action: http://mozart.github.io/mozart-v1/doc-1.4.0/mozart-stdlib/wp/qtk/html/picture100.gif < 1388469475 918827 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388469861 631313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :SURLYSPAWN is part of the ANGRYNEIGHBOR family of radar retro-reflectors. | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1388470690 522081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://leaksource.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/nsa-ant-ragemaster.jpg < 1388470711 427349 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388470850 49951 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/qwZih9U.jpg Khadafy < 1388470891 844527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep looks just like him < 1388471203 739217 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: is this like... intentional < 1388471217 718929 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I assume not < 1388471829 894812 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I THINK I UNDERSTAND DUAL NUMBERS NOW < 1388471848 95894 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... maybe? < 1388471848 922992 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mathwithbaddrawings.com/2013/08/07/0-999-and-the-debate-that-repeats-forever/ < 1388471865 117728 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the ε that that page describes the thing in dual numbers? < 1388471869 983708 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck is a dual number < 1388471879 247622 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean nonstandard numbers < 1388471896 541234 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ε^2 = 0 < 1388471931 430700 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ε!=0 < 1388471946 947944 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIwUAqavC7I < 1388471951 380853 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_number < 1388471987 622624 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1388472023 746992 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have a real times that eps, so, no < 1388472057 292221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.999... is actually equal to 2 < 1388472062 226709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :little known fact < 1388472135 566337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it seems the person who wrote that article is mostly right but doesn't really properly know why they're right < 1388472234 817559 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh, make sense (bad way to phrase that though) < 1388472248 435878 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a bad way to phrase < 1388472275 196973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Sgeo was telling you to make sense < 1388472288 793706 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm incapable < 1388472290 353153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: make sense < 1388472290 541258 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why do think the media is happily trying to waste taxpayer money < 1388472292 680495 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*makes sense < 1388472302 218593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot whoaaaaaaaa < 1388472302 496836 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: its not for everyone of course. hegel thought it was more like < 1388472332 426180 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hegel?? fungot don't do this to me < 1388472332 693199 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's crashed like 6 times today. it also affects ability to understand quantified nouns < 1388472344 542429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hegel was, like, the man. tell me more < 1388472344 730818 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think i'll do some work. fnord because it looks stupid < 1388472353 445024 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i get that from hegel as well, fungot, why don't you talk about spinoza or something instead < 1388472353 633093 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: because it is evolutionarily superior to most computers. is that right? but now, by the way < 1388472374 167161 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, fungot, it is not right. spinoza's computer was only evolutionary superior to some mechanical bookshelves. < 1388472374 393967 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i just mean, of course). cool! :d) < 1388472397 406209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: wow don't listen to Bike he's just a bicycle < 1388472397 690931 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the place you applying isn't worth applying for i'd say it was a single large heap for all processes." < 1388472408 87495 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can i have more ""fungot wisdom"" < 1388472408 354184 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: some athena machines use various snapshots named fnord some others use 7.7.1 ( from fnord): < 1388472434 894288 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i mean, with a smallest possible nubmer your'e basically giving up on rationals. and who doesn't like rationals? < 1388472479 296153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who says you need a smallest possible number < 1388472491 493751 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this adrian kid. < 1388472525 961800 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hides the 0 from Bike
< 1388472541 103679 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :smallest nonnegative number < 1388472551 987732 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION keeps hiding the 0 from Bike
< 1388472588 331669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i'm not getting involved in a 0.9 argument < 1388472592 145519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even a fake one < 1388472614 660210 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: don't you dare try to tell me that 0.999 repeating is equal to 0.9 < 1388472621 818439 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the smallest nonnegative number is 0 < 1388472622 579555 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1388472626 358518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: imo how about this < 1388472634 306613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.999... doesn't exist because it's an infinite sum < 1388472644 760738 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1388472647 428524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm a super duper constructivist, i only believe in things you can do in finite time < 1388472675 944327 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + ... = 0 * inf = ? < 1388472691 589536 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can convince people that .999... exists in finite time. your move < 1388472696 937519 :Chillectual!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388472699 932436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :prove it < 1388472709 306878 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also fuck the nonnegative thing you know what i mean argh. < 1388472709 495239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i'm the only people in the world < 1388472721 307632 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do youe xplain the eistence of jeorge bush < 1388472725 109118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "strictly nonnegative" hth < 1388472750 289892 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bush is pretty negative in my book < 1388472774 876493 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.999... is syntactic sugar for lim_{n->inf} sum_{i=1}^{n} 9 * 10^-i < 1388472803 703364 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You and your real math. Go have an i < 1388472811 933433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't believe in lim, sry < 1388472824 476750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, or do i believe in lim but just don't believe that that limit is the same as 1 < 1388472858 301649 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388472882 345905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://math.andrej.com/2008/08/13/intuitionistic-mathematics-for-physics/comment-page-1/#comment-21652 < 1388472941 313201 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :golly, but you get such weird functions from diffs < 1388472968 910995 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388473028 745985 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388473055 218804 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a guy whose thesis is just on integrating products of besselffunctions. how wack is that < 1388473103 423501 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo why < 1388473108 694635 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffunctions⁈ < 1388473126 244586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffunction < 1388473134 185938 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're like regular functions but louder < 1388473186 353073 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cos it helps understand optics in turbulent media, duh < 1388473200 705129 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :turbulence is fucked up imo < 1388473236 753643 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I know the (d/dx)(e^x)=e^x makes sense, but I don't know how to make heads or tales of that comment, whether it's sensible or idiotic < 1388473244 696488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which comment? < 1388473252 991356 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one you linked to < 1388473265 715910 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Anonymous: You’re right about the derivative of xn and wrong about the derivative of ex. " < 1388473266 587443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one by Bauer? < 1388473271 101837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sensible. < 1388473271 872983 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1388473272 931215 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1388473275 484347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ꟼ < 1388473281 376200 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+A7FC LATIN EPIGRAPHIC LETTER REVERSED P] < 1388473400 880218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes me sad that people have decided that http://adit.io/posts/2013-04-17-functors,_applicatives,_and_monads_in_pictures.html is a good introduction and link to it a lot < 1388473411 540720 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sad that the IRTC is dead < 1388473418 575917 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... RUSTY VIDEO I HAVEN"T SEEN BEFORE < 1388473420 704964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know the author, too. but that introduction makes me sad < 1388473479 251148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it bad < 1388473557 848770 :Chillectual!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388473582 207387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :approximately the usual reasons < 1388473583 154360 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/anims/2007-01-15/rusty032.mpg < 1388473633 514158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad analogies, subtle mistakes, missing or not explaining the point of an abstraction such that it seems pointless < 1388473874 138660 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ftp://ftp.irtc.org/pub/COPYRIGHT < 1388473881 101969 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much for putting IRTC videos on YouTube < 1388473894 496576 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5. Entrant grants the right of private recreational or non-commercial < 1388473894 684761 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :use to the general public, EXCEPTING THE RESTRICTIONS (5.1) AND (5.2) below. < 1388473894 684872 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5.1. Distribution is not allowed on any storage media that are < 1388473894 684917 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :accessible over the Internet or similar Wide Area Networks. This prohibits < 1388473894 684957 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the use of these files on FTP, WWW or gopher sites, among others. < 1388473936 91609 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, technically YouTube would only be publically serving a derived work of the original files... which I guess counts? < 1388474338 18787 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/anims/ < 1388474342 98536 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such... low-quality < 1388474346 961936 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should rerender some of them < 1388474356 549902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are you talking to < 1388474387 517001 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric < 1388474452 455840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1388474756 13967 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, squarepusher is fun. < 1388474859 701880 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/stills/accepted/twstcube.jpg < 1388474880 178595 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not squarepusher < 1388474887 778445 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know squarepusher (geddit) < 1388474895 155128 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388474924 444286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ï̈ < 1388474925 993791 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00EF LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH DIAERESIS] [U+0308 COMBINING DIAERESIS] < 1388474935 111271 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/stills/accepted/dragon.jpg < 1388474936 253114 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :metal < 1388474943 692607 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how that's a dragon < 1388474960 457784 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :think spine. think inside of liver. < 1388474962 309156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fuckin pretty though < 1388475035 278942 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The adventurer was weary; for more time than he cared to think he had been digging through the hinterlands of calculus, trying to resurrect long-lost skills. Suddenly, while leaning inward to examine a convoluted function, he finds himself staring into the eyes of a dragon. It's that diabolical worm, Complexity!" < 1388475040 163872 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/stills/accepted/dragon.txt < 1388475067 873224 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(POV-Ray seems like an excellent tool for visualization in an engineering context!)" < 1388475085 714970 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ray-tracing might be overkill for engineering? Certainly a modeling language like that might be nice I guess < 1388475213 365555 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/stills/accepted/1004cplx.jpg < 1388475594 677551 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should look to see what other renderers besides LuxRender have galleries < 1388475913 979316 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388476103 455785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://iml.univ-mrs.fr/~girard/0.pdf < 1388476574 932817 :carado!~user4539@mar44-5-88-182-30-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388476645 741686 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388476764 726527 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388476904 726166 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388476981 153323 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Cont is the mother of all monads, is there a name for the monads that ListT State s (or is it StateT [s]?) is the mother of? < 1388477035 691656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Codensity, not Cont. < 1388477071 524183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mother" is not a precise relationship between monads. < 1388478399 794096 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388478507 956738 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1388478780 904895 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1388479525 633676 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Britain. http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/14/artificial-leg-prompts-paedophile-panic-at-swimming-pool-and-evacuation-of-children-4230694/ < 1388479807 897612 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388479865 866864 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388480299 755697 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388480567 760184 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388480698 363833 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1388480953 962010 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388480978 951127 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388483457 477040 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net NICK :ThisWasABadIdea < 1388483472 670330 :ThisWasABadIdea!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net NICK :LetUsNotForget < 1388483480 97541 :LetUsNotForget!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net NICK :WhoWeAre < 1388483488 205413 :WhoWeAre!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net NICK :AndWhereWeCameFr < 1388483494 624610 :AndWhereWeCameFr!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net NICK :LinearInterpol < 1388483531 249274 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388484041 546595 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388484307 748220 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388484369 177110 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388484399 244770 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388485083 474901 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388485583 695931 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4C758.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388487225 513609 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn it, I wanted to ask ais something before he went to bed < 1388487340 100425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1388487460 209752 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: do you pass the turing test? < 1388487487 444990 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388487522 872488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION senses from the logs that Bike may not live in quite the same reality as the rest of us. and that his reality has an alternate Sgeo.
< 1388487594 948102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: a bot that passes the turing test by complaining loudly about the insult of putting it to the test. < 1388487902 7011 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1388487917 504111 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically a rob ford bot < 1388488755 820812 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388488797 710206 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1388488797 898230 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1388491681 206177 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no numbers above 7? < 1388491729 967350 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's stronger than "all odd numbers (other than 1) are prime" < 1388491786 601524 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, the two statements are logically equivalent. At least it's not weaker.) < 1388491995 948186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor -3 < 1388492000 31267 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor: invalid option -- '3' \ Try `factor --help' for more information. < 1388492006 436087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :weak. < 1388492028 959554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 1729 < 1388492030 374415 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1729: 7 13 19 < 1388492101 762878 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor -- -3 < 1388492103 282564 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor: unrecognized option '-- -3' \ Try `factor --help' for more information. < 1388492117 899568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run factor -- -3 < 1388492118 397856 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor: ‘-3’ is not a valid positive integer < 1388492119 485488 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor: `-3' is not a valid positive integer < 1388492134 926301 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor --version < 1388492136 236387 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor (GNU coreutils) 8.5 \ Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later . \ This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. \ There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. \ \ Written by Paul Rubin. < 1388492148 663895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :discriminating against the negatives again < 1388492208 934604 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :How dou you count strongness? < 1388492210 510975 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*do < 1388492237 640001 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no numbers > There are no numbers above 7? < 1388492245 574717 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1388492320 117498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :theoretically, there can only be one conjecture stronger than that. since otherwise there would be more than 7. < 1388492344 448279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :qed < 1388492346 799562 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I would say that a statement A is stronger than B if A "obviously" implies B. Logically, "obviously" cannot be defined, so in the end the implication is all that's left. < 1388492447 695685 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1388492645 810746 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, we could explain the implication more explicitely using models. A is stronger than B (in a theory T) if every model of A (and T) is also a model of B. < 1388492650 768930 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388492664 787988 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about models < 1388492672 12549 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it sounds like if B is a subset of A < 1388492695 387162 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then A is stronger < 1388492698 304820 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or actually... < 1388492701 635389 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"smaller" < 1388492736 926377 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sounds the same as your implication explanation < 1388492746 267328 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :A model specifies how operations used in formulas work. A model of the natural numbers would be a set of numbers together with successor, addition and multiplication. < 1388492771 714675 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what distinguishes them from a group < 1388492773 237473 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ring? < 1388492809 415200 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1388492815 791083 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The notion of models is more general. A group is a model of the group axioms. A field is a model of the field axioms. < 1388492819 414460 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the model actually defines what a successor is? < 1388492910 442931 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it does < 1388492979 212402 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 170141183460469231731687303715884105727 < 1388492980 518422 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor: `170141183460469231731687303715884105727' is too large < 1388493004 54052 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 9223372036854775808 < 1388493005 288133 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :9223372036854775808: 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 < 1388493010 288641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: USE THE QUANTUM < 1388493042 216109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^100 < 1388493043 402242 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1267650600228229401496703205376 < 1388493048 460298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^150 < 1388493049 646389 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746624 < 1388493058 932230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746624 < 1388493060 313020 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor: `1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746624' is too large < 1388493069 27624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: YOU'RE NOT EVEN TRYING < 1388493077 974255 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 18446744073709551615 < 1388493079 151594 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :18446744073709551615: 3 5 17 257 641 65537 6700417 < 1388493081 91309 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 18446744073709551616 < 1388493082 315518 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor: `18446744073709551616' is too large < 1388493086 655550 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^64 < 1388493087 770937 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 18446744073709551616 < 1388493121 351952 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`eval factorize 18446744073709551617 < 1388493122 627608 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: eval: not found < 1388493139 796572 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :W|A can factor 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746624 just fine. < 1388493169 898549 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so can gp/pari < 1388493187 478520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But does it have a "step-by-step solution" button? < 1388493195 946153 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though I'd need to sign in for that to actually do anything.) < 1388493202 664616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> mod 18446744073709551617 7 < 1388493203 804822 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 < 1388493206 335824 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah. < 1388493228 299897 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, that particular case is probably fine ... just 150 trial divisions. < 1388493244 673498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> mod 18446744073709551617 <$> [7,11,13,19,23] < 1388493245 792009 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [3,6,4,18,7] < 1388493262 496746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm not that easy < 1388493282 478257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't give a step-by-step solution button for the prime 170141183460469231731687303715884105727 -- at least in the same box. < 1388493287 80999 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746625 == 5^3*13*41*61*101*1201*1321*8101*63901*268401*13334701*1182468601 < 1388493288 166817 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1388493298 777232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's a step-by-step solution button in the "divisors" box, though.) < 1388493335 334253 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the prime factorization of 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746625 there is the button. I'm tempted, but not tempted enough to make an account. < 1388493355 309032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> mod 18446744073709551617 <$> [29,31,37,41,43,47,53,59] < 1388493356 455142 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [25,17,13,17,42,26,16,6] < 1388493384 314823 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746625 == product [5,5,5,13,41,61,101,1201,1321,8101,63901,268501,13334701,1182468601] < 1388493385 346958 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1388493401 3464 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so what does a step-by-step solution for that look like? < 1388493444 153839 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 18446744073709551617 < 1388493445 436643 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor: `18446744073709551617' is too large < 1388493450 381152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh w|a says the smallest factor is 274177 < 1388493450 704180 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> mod 18446744073709551617 <$> [274177, 67280421310721] -- oerjan: let's just cut to the chase, eh? < 1388493451 757981 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,0] < 1388493456 978703 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pari says ... 274177*67280421310721. right. < 1388493467 922381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I don't know; that's why I was tempted. < 1388493502 199357 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should do some shopping before the shops close, bbl.
< 1388493532 365378 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 1182468601 < 1388493533 712364 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1182468601: 1182468601 < 1388493549 95515 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, how does a step by step solution for this (a primality test) look like? :-) < 1388493564 492784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wonder fermat was confused about these numbers. < 1388493572 542548 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't give a step-by-step solution button for (large) primes. < 1388493594 614061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or for that 18446744073709551617 either. < 1388493605 655489 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(One would have to look at primality certificates. Maybe some of those are verifiable by humans.) < 1388493712 44871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right fermat numbers must have factors of a particular form < 1388493734 493013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 274176 < 1388493735 981854 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :274176: 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 7 17 < 1388493914 680776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : yes, i get that from hegel as well, fungot, why don't you talk about spinoza or something instead <-- yeah everyone else is just a spin-off < 1388493915 85532 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: this bug seems to have been removed from cvs already. ( i don't know < 1388495057 748269 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388495217 846981 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@ip-64-134-242-146.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388495421 129942 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388497395 128869 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a good thing that fungot is self-sentinent so that it knows about bugs in its source-code that have been fixed < 1388497395 317115 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: unix using ascii. do you get? < 1388497419 576268 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388497740 610061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog oVXmWnfARC4 < 1388497772 137164 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1388497776 346048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog oVXmWnfARC4 < 1388497808 355005 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1388497823 141798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess no one's linked http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVXmWnfARC4 here before < 1388497836 345606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(youtube suggested it to me >_>) < 1388498420 756518 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have just thought of something ridiculous < 1388498461 709757 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But very interesting < 1388498466 205504 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And probably already done < 1388498560 521223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pinky Are you thinking what Taneb is thinking? < 1388498560 774317 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, I think so Brain, but this time, you wear the tutu. < 1388498666 953014 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388498684 558345 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388498759 789181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ENVA < 1388498760 717199 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 311350Z 28004KT 9999 VCSH FEW034 OVC048 06/01 Q0997 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 26011KT < 1388499031 509425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello metasepia < 1388499034 259725 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepello < 1388499047 620789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1388499050 476871 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat. < 1388499058 152027 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, good cryogenic morning! < 1388499062 544946 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYQB < 1388499063 227166 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 311400Z 27002KT 30SM BKN085 BKN110 M22/M28 A3015 RMK AC5AC2 SLP218 < 1388499127 341992 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388499142 982764 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388499151 979303 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388499339 229274 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388499549 934199 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388499641 839685 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388499653 482220 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388500664 373697 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388500687 897543 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388500699 974776 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388501015 842186 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388501172 585396 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388501219 903120 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388501286 197709 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388501568 126880 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellinelloarintellorpellol. < 1388501582 431676 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388501746 875129 :tertu3!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388501835 194880 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388501913 936493 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1388502004 290171 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388502443 758280 :itsy!~john_metc@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388502446 850464 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESSA < 1388502447 380103 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSA 311450Z 19013KT 9999 FEW020 SCT040 04/01 Q1012 R01L/29//95 R08/29//95 R01R/29//95 NOSIG < 1388502559 20589 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388503077 866898 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy new year at UTC+08:42:03! < 1388503224 769297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: wait is that an actual timezone < 1388503243 370142 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1388503325 802318 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime lifthrasiir < 1388503327 393904 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for lifthrasiir is Wed Jan 1 00:22:06 2014 < 1388503356 552120 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :새해 복 많이 받으세요! < 1388503390 513244 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you! < 1388503462 539214 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that reminds me I need to set-up korean in my terminal. the default font choice is... creative. not quite zalgo-esque, but it has some eldritch tendencies.) < 1388503572 670857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's north korean, that would do it right < 1388504488 81241 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388504620 552324 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388504846 432198 :pointpen!~pointpen@91.210.100.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388505192 970218 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388505439 620130 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388505703 347138 :pointpen!~pointpen@91.210.100.183 QUIT :K-Lined < 1388506142 741309 :Sorella`!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388506182 653540 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy old year, boily! < 1388506210 923705 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :joyeuse vieille année, quintopia! < 1388506258 685292 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you going to do with all this time? < 1388506346 354958 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :today? work, then a few jousts of towerfall, then yearend TV specials. probably going to involve a few cups of wine here and there. < 1388506350 479124 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388506353 650942 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and an ounce or two of scotch :D) < 1388506397 218065 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, is canada already in the future? < 1388506424 397711 :AwfulProgrammer_!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rmmyjbvlgkskugux JOIN :#esoteric < 1388506471 639062 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, are you ahead or behind in time? should be behind, if japan is ahead < 1388506472 954526 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you're more futury than me. it's still a quarter past 11am here. < 1388506492 476582 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION of the future says hi
< 1388506517 696798 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quarter past five here < 1388506520 631168 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's 2014 like? < 1388506550 737262 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: you'll have to ask lifthrasiir. he's the most Futurian of us all. I think. < 1388506571 756878 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION plans to complete OMEGA by Origin in 2014 :-)
< 1388506582 447054 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zimbabwe < 1388506584 737766 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner's desk points zimbabwards. it is highly dependent on tswett's michiganic orientation. < 1388506593 428664 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, 2014 has the same number of factors as 2013, and their average is the same < 1388506597 908163 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, it's like... Wednesday. < 1388506624 820095 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: what color is wednesday? < 1388506628 464104 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: apparently, 2014 is made of factors and wednesdays. < 1388506683 372660 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, kind error < 1388506721 716969 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I have a file named a┤rv.txt on Windows, I'd like to know if this file exists." < 1388506726 892344 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 PRIVMSG #esoteric :these stackoverflow questions are getting philosophical < 1388506740 152333 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not quite sure what color kind error is, but it could be a great color to start a year < 1388506755 379708 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1388506809 953893 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new Kind Error Collection from Holt Renfrew. < 1388506867 548188 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4C758.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388506977 654975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run factor 2013; factor 2014 < 1388506979 170049 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013: 3 11 61 \ 2014: 2 19 53 < 1388506986 934088 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388507010 743092 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1388507019 197084 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, actually, 2013 has 0.3 higher average factor < 1388507027 80086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1388507027 268248 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388507027 268391 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bzpwunpznktymilr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388507036 373717 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 1/3, to be more exact < 1388507040 547523 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388507040 735782 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388507043 864103 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388507044 382373 :AwfulProgrammer_!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rmmyjbvlgkskugux NICK :AwfulProgrammer < 1388507055 265672 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1388507098 786064 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval let avg xs = fromIntegral (sum xs) / fromIntegral (length xs) in (avg . primeFactors $ 2013) - (avg . primeFactors $ 2014) < 1388507107 156772 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.33333333333333215 < 1388507131 220315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1388507164 677100 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval let avg xs = fromIntegral (sum xs) % fromIntegral (length xs) in (avg . primeFactors $ 2013) - (avg . primeFactors $ 2014) < 1388507165 349636 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 % 3 < 1388507204 511784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> findIndex id $ zipWith(==)`ap`tail $ avg . primeFactors <$> [1..] < 1388507205 697783 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `avg'Not in scope: `primeFactors' < 1388507216 48680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1388507218 706061 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neener neener :D < 1388507230 565769 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org NICK :monotone < 1388507247 551654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval let avg xs = fromIntegral (sum xs) / fromIntegral (length xs) in findIndex id $ zipWith(==)`ap`tail $ avg . primeFactors <$> [1..] < 1388507248 535171 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just 734 < 1388507259 670749 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run factor 2013.5 < 1388507261 159919 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor: `2013.5' is not a valid positive integer < 1388507283 171911 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run factor 20135 < 1388507284 426581 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :20135: 5 4027 < 1388507299 839548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run factor 733; factor 734; factor 735 < 1388507301 348924 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :733: 733 \ 734: 2 367 \ 735: 3 5 7 7 < 1388507306 990104 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.5 and 4027 or 5 and 402.7 then < 1388507356 624991 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run factor 736 < 1388507358 95841 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :736: 2 2 2 2 2 23 < 1388507380 292428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval let avg xs = fromIntegral (sum xs) / fromIntegral (length xs) in avg . primeFactors <$> [732..] < 1388507381 39300 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[17.0,733.0,184.5,5.5,5.5,39.0,12.25,739.0,11.5,11.666666666666666,20.666666666666668,743.0,8.0,77.0,187.5,29.666666666666668,8.0,57.0,4.0,751.0,11.0,127.0,14.666666666666666,78.0,3.3333333333333335,757.0,190.5,12.333333333333334,6.0,761.0,44.0,58.0,65.0,7.0,192.5,36.0,2.111111111111111,769.0,6.25,130.0,65.66666666666667,773.0,12.75,13.666666666666666,25.75,15.666666666666666,195.5,30.0,5.0,41.0,14.0,9.5,3.6666666666666665,81.0,45.333333333333336,787. < 1388507411 629123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the off by one is in the other direction < 1388507462 335607 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1..] !! 734 is 735, and the tail has the next entry on the same index < 1388507519 256760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "An off by two error is what happens when you expect an off by one error but compensate in the wrong direction" >wisdom/'off by two error' < 1388507523 471012 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1388507574 694264 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or off by one point five error. (like OpenGL pixel-perfect rendering, for example) < 1388507590 218792 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/off\ by\ two\ error wisdom/off\ by\ two < 1388507594 16428 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1388507625 354355 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: bfjoust is better than towerfall < 1388507634 759458 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a radar retro-reflector? < 1388507679 306473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume something that reflects typical radar signals well towards their source. < 1388507693 208411 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that just a reflector? < 1388507693 895271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on what the retro-reflectors they've put on the moon are like. < 1388507694 834999 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that bounces a radar signal directly back at the transmitter < 1388507703 926680 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388507708 29685 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter what angle the incoming signal is coming from < 1388507715 432462 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, towards the source < 1388507716 907120 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1388507801 794879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if those are good defenses against laser weapons
< 1388507809 879189 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: oh, that's where it comes from? I guess that's why does that too < 1388507838 283935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well visible light ones < 1388507881 584446 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388507883 299382 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388507902 440702 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388507904 464557 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388507915 704470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i suppose they would have the disadvantage of being extremely easy to search for < 1388507960 172787 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I can punch my bro when playing Towerfall. < 1388507972 928872 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, google for "diamond exit rule", I think. (and AFAIK it does not affect the rendering of triangle primitives) < 1388507977 856560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be an argumet against putting them on armor < 1388507982 900468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+n < 1388508006 81188 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could enable and disable the retroreflectiveness, and only enable them when being hit by a bright enough laser beam < 1388508018 138089 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1388508037 33889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Sounds like it might be a tradeoff between the reflection coefficient you can achieve (presumably higher for a simple reflective surface) and the possibly desirable feature of doing something to the source. < 1388508038 643449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that would require an active device < 1388508053 294481 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You could just coat a reflective surface with something that burns away easily when hit by a laser. < 1388508056 359666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's pretty passive. < 1388508074 345514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But still black until shot at.) < 1388508075 883690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: huh < 1388508101 81169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Disclaimer: IANAWD.) < 1388508129 703839 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not a wizard dog? < 1388508133 862090 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you are not a weapon of destruction? < 1388508138 704027 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weapon designer. < 1388508146 345398 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1388508148 964221 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wizard dog. < 1388508157 825765 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm with LinearInterpol here. < 1388508158 791113 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to admit I'm not a wizard dog either. < 1388508166 495747 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we know you are. < 1388508170 309675 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Incidentally, "energy weapon" sounds pretty silly, since it's so vague.) < 1388508175 669144 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :airborne wizard dog < 1388508240 260743 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate is of no help here. we could have had “Fizzie, King of Airborne Wizard Dogs” in Finnish. < 1388508260 755592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something something koira hth < 1388508315 611254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except probably some other case < 1388508386 256568 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Google Translate translates en:wizard to sv:guide, presumably because of setup wizard thingys < 1388508417 732062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Fizzie, kuningas ilmassa ohjatun koiria hth < 1388508422 792590 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388508431 267445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(_not_ capitalizing everything helped.) < 1388508479 983562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fizzie < 1388508482 240839 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg < 1388508500 346537 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you pronounce “hth” in Finnish? < 1388508510 603890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: painfully < 1388508524 523724 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes my mouth hurt just reading that. < 1388508540 765018 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the PDF is updated ♪ < 1388508586 812426 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388508627 508564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wait with what. oh right. < 1388508710 52465 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: apparently, it's easier in Finnish: en:hth → fi:tea. < 1388508712 45252 :hogeyui__!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388508723 370062 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...huh. < 1388508769 763179 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then, you have fr:eça. < 1388508770 535887 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lentävien velhokoirien kuningas" (lit. "[flying] [of wizard dogs] [king]") would be more natural Finnish, if you want the fantasy kind of wizard. < 1388508821 240370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and norwegian ruins all with hdh, hth < 1388508841 964074 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no:“hope dhat helps”? < 1388508861 215430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLOSE < 1388508886 514290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(håper det hjelper) < 1388508978 969090 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388509019 706352 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd invest in fizziecoins < 1388509069 243772 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://www.cederroth.com/temp/2130047399.png hth < 1388509107 80383 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is rainbowly frightened
< 1388509125 332404 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :im scared of colors. < 1388509260 207263 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388509295 738811 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is hdh in swedish too hth < 1388509313 783919 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hoppas det hj�lper) < 1388509340 231045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I KNEW IT *MWAHAHAHAHA* < 1388509345 171043 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hth in english is hdh (helps dry hands) < 1388509363 126519 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aide à sécher les mains. < 1388509381 195860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think that's backwards < 1388509386 384261 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's not english < 1388509389 191321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is dry the adjective < 1388509431 23375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aide à les mains séches maybe? < 1388509445 528278 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aide les mains sèches. < 1388509454 808352 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aider is transitive.) < 1388509494 940509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ô kaille < 1388509513 935144 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to remember that one. «ô kaille». he he he :D < 1388509532 118071 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are you flying or are the wizard dogs flying? < 1388509576 921961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TTOA ("toivottavasti tästä oli apua") might be a Finnish hth hth < 1388509682 3575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Swanbeck upptäckte i mitten av 1960-talet att torr hud har brist på fuktgivande ämnen." shocking < 1388509716 431876 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, amazing discovery < 1388509778 116945 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds ominous... < 1388509823 127105 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like we say here, «plus qu'il neige, plus qu'il y a de la neige.» < 1388509844 548097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other news: taking a shower gets you wet because of an abundance of water? < 1388509909 299567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly publishable paper there < 1388509947 221990 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388509975 298780 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: actually it's the wetness of the water that does it < 1388510009 423217 :Sorella`!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 NICK :Sorella < 1388510009 815702 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1388510010 3869 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1388510048 767416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gt seems to have this strange idea il y a should have an accent < 1388510110 681310 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who're gt and ilya? < 1388510133 863767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gt = google translate. ilya is some russian. < 1388510141 126075 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1388510162 875011 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: gt is wrong. WRONG! < 1388510184 288538 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gt can also mean: gin and tonic < 1388510186 255672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: other google sources made me suspect as much. < 1388510210 231418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :around trondheim, mostly ilya dubkov. < 1388510379 376086 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gran Turismo. < 1388510397 368907 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«il y a», literally “he have at this place” < 1388510490 787172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION actually knows what il y a means, being among the few things not forgotten from his school french
< 1388510548 655739 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is y = here? that part of school french failed to stick, apparently < 1388510561 483509 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :il and a I can recognize as he and have < 1388510622 963910 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388510645 429825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`localtime lifthrasiir < 1388510646 512290 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: localtime: not found < 1388510651 927465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime lifthrasiir < 1388510653 270422 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for lifthrasiir is Wed Jan 1 02:24:12 2014 < 1388510770 74215 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: «y» is the accusative of «ici». < 1388510798 240937 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1388510839 787494 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has also a bunch of derivative meanings all related to “here”, “now”, “oneself”. < 1388510849 740381 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite sure why that word would have cases though < 1388510874 422741 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with pronouns, those are the last vestigial remnants of cases in French. < 1388510966 955725 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. german where cases are much alive, doesn't have cases for 'hier' afaik < 1388511309 355312 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Koen_ it's been a long time since I disturbed you with Québécois. < 1388511309 582216 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388511581 699930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what color should i paint my fingernails for the new year? < 1388511593 674327 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hot pink < 1388511607 200858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mandelbrot pattern < 1388511613 992753 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :julia set. < 1388511623 717934 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_: what colour should kmc be? < 1388511645 101924 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388511654 89651 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I say, Cantor Dust. < 1388511654 758725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_ seems blissfully idle < 1388511674 819527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what colour should i paint my fingernails for the new year? < 1388511675 492479 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it certainly shouldn't take that long. :p the cost is only 2.5e (!) directfb/ core/ pul/ collection.plof this has a cutoff constant in it somewhere. it a house consisting from 6 houses < 1388511689 167371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna keep asking fungot until i get an answer < 1388511689 408100 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: probably the only one he used. right? right? ( fnord! < 1388511710 98871 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1388511726 472221 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fungot probably is going to recommend some Deep Iridescent Fnord. < 1388511726 735661 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 90% of my market would be windows and i develop software for all of them < 1388511751 806429 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should paint them kind error < 1388511781 226728 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: or do you have a better idea?+ < 1388511781 675154 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: why do you care? nobody will make you fnord if you want, implementing conses ( including set-car!/set-cdr!) in your saliva, then the doc said " oh, i see < 1388511825 405993 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1388511836 403422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm finding out that you can't mess around with saliva! < 1388511836 680486 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you actually wrote these, and i refuse to take anything on faith, riastradh. from now on. < 1388511837 119627 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm, I don't know < 1388511839 293422 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no. I don't want to make fnord in my saliva, and yes I care. < 1388511839 481509 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's always nice to eat or something < 1388511850 942748 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cantor Dust isn't a color < 1388511870 39009 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm hungry. < 1388511870 333647 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what is ihope? this x thing, so you can't go any further with clisms. < 1388512115 157989 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The structural color of the fruit of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollia_condensata < 1388512184 625898 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I refuse to believe a fruit made of tinfoil and electric blue sparkly plastic resin exists in nature. < 1388512199 236706 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1388512226 15938 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you think tinfoil came from? < 1388512252 395949 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true, everyone knows tinfoil doesn't come from tin < 1388512263 960761 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: from tinfoil mines in the Great North. < 1388512286 478657 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tin- is just thin without the h < 1388512408 454420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's just one of the many proofs that we are living in a simulation hth < 1388512450 38724 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dons his maple-tinfoil hat
< 1388512534 898580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_: _real_ tinfoil comes from tin. it's also the only kind that protects against mind control rays, which explains why you cannot get it any more. hth..hth < 1388512538 398605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1388512547 49765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION misunderstands the script
< 1388512600 642181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it will work better if i include some spaces, twh. < 1388512623 266731 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which script? < 1388512639 661501 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Oerjan's Shackles. < 1388512645 854773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the script that prevents me from saying < 1388512681 204442 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see, htwh < 1388512694 894453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1388512767 529290 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Kleen Star of All Help Combinations < 1388512798 98549 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/n\b/ne/ < 1388512834 940034 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'test' | sed -e 'st\ttTt' < 1388512836 527215 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test < 1388512914 90187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very sane command. < 1388512978 333559 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :☺ < 1388513007 51948 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_: wow those are pretty < 1388513507 686237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy australian mailman list reminder day! < 1388514178 991520 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1388514581 134328 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: have you made any new year resolutions? < 1388514581 418671 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: never mind. found it. i quite like that, heh? < 1388514607 869877 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: have you? < 1388514615 476219 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1388514619 592449 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither < 1388514621 45058 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should? < 1388514639 862823 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you're not gonna keep it anyway, are you? < 1388514645 185111 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently fungot found their resolution < 1388514645 373283 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: syntax-case enables the impossible. merely that it is < 1388514661 109999 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not. < 1388514666 572937 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the old joke go, my new year resolution is going to be 1920 × 1080. < 1388514681 168974 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems a bit low for 2014 < 1388514686 670810 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine might be 3800x1800, now that there are laptops with that resolution < 1388514690 587972 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(other than that, get back to learning Japanese. but I won't say it's a resolution, as that would needlessly jinx it.) < 1388514694 482174 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly ultra-hd, or just full-hd < 1388514779 697758 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. I can go as low as 640 × 480 on this machine. < 1388514795 578492 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually full-hd would be an upgrade for this laptop ... the current resolution is almost ridiculously low < 1388514815 228685 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 5" phone has higher resolution than the 12.5" laptop :( < 1388514910 987999 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :解像度は変更できません (;_;) < 1388515149 845552 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, great, it's time to get rid of home-grown hgweb server due to frequent server overload. < 1388515180 865955 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: どのデバイスは解像度が変更できませんか？ < 1388515325 283627 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ただのつまらない冗談です。すみません < 1388515408 677885 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: しょうがないなぁ… < 1388515525 399694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the old saying goes, one time a train hit a zebra so hard that a person came out < 1388515530 676433 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: それでも、お元気ですか？あなたに生きている場所に寒いですか？ < 1388515556 555450 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: humans are a crossbreed between zebras and trains? < 1388515576 23919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :believe so < 1388515595 444712 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :regarding resolutions: when will we see the first 1080p smart watch? < 1388515598 236959 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd explain a lot of things... < 1388515611 733645 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar LOII < 1388515612 254359 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1388515614 916010 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar LLII < 1388515615 483263 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1388515618 926858 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I honestly don't see the point of display resolutions above 150dpi or so) < 1388515619 289716 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah bordel. < 1388515645 505697 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar LOWI < 1388515646 193183 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 311820Z 25003KT CAVOK M04/M07 Q1019 R08/19//70 NOSIG < 1388515695 36488 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: まあ　あったかいでもないですけど < 1388515702 348619 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :chilly. < 1388515769 666242 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EDBM < 1388515770 314785 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1388515811 876098 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring. < 1388515835 495371 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EDDP < 1388515836 381509 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EDDP 311820Z 15008KT CAVOK 01/M00 Q1017 NOSIG < 1388515837 997422 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KORF < 1388515838 723654 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KORF 311751Z 26007G14KT 230V290 10SM CLR 09/M02 A3017 RMK AO2 SLP217 T00891017 10094 20033 58016 < 1388515848 736876 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: ここは極低温度だよ < 1388515857 206801 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1388515857 849892 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 311800Z 04006KT 8SM -SN OVC033 M16/M19 A3006 RMK SC8 SLP181 < 1388515888 602133 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYQB < 1388515889 241954 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 311800Z 24007KT 3SM -SN OVC028 M19/M24 A3008 RMK SN5SC3 SLP196 < 1388515897 848531 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yé... minus nineteen... < 1388515909 482156 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardly cryogenic < 1388515922 603215 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar HKJK < 1388515923 459875 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HKJK 311700Z 04010KT 9999 BKN023 22/14 Q1019 NOSIG < 1388515939 782849 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here it's like +3 or something, it's silly < 1388515957 418764 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: my feet beg to differ. < 1388516005 285462 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they're still begging they haven't been cryogenerated yet < 1388516028 156524 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cryogeneration hasn't begun yet. I still have two of them. < 1388516040 447381 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 10 toes? < 1388516070 273270 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :try going inside, it may be warmer < 1388516090 224848 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the regular SI toe configuration, I still have it. < 1388516099 2306 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I am inside. I'm stupidly barefoot. < 1388516106 889129 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 厚い靴下をはいた方がいいと思います (*‿*) < 1388516109 594370 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's stupid boily < 1388516196 908569 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to suggest making use of that great invention called boots ... but now it's redundant. < 1388516273 350908 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone has the comfiest solution. < 1388516321 736985 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it involve socks? or a warm bath? < 1388516330 195786 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: やれやれ < 1388516332 56384 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. "hot bath" sounds better. < 1388516623 454154 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: 靴下をはいている　僕の足はいま暖かいです　(^ε^) < 1388516684 24926 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: よかったですね < 1388516716 851551 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: as the local proverb goes, «よかった en maudit». < 1388517284 488069 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388517329 759403 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388517538 817973 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: silly indeed < 1388517659 227456 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1388517683 141219 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388517781 409574 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :spaceteam! < 1388517834 964994 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what languages do you know????????? < 1388517873 494261 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just writing french in hanzi < 1388517880 486098 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388517884 557506 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lame < 1388517902 557748 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: shun! < 1388517920 693136 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: spaceteam! < 1388517929 686763 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: spaceteam? < 1388517952 143981 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spaceteam!? < 1388517961 184780 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: and kana < 1388517969 451249 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you should play it. with your friends. asap. < 1388517984 938211 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: does it run on Linux and/or the Ouya? < 1388517997 85839 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: or, better, is it made of cardboard and acrylic? < 1388518001 365665 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388518013 423538 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: android or ios < 1388518024 454055 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I accept. < 1388518025 921256 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the iphone version is slightly more stable < 1388518031 62443 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro < 1388518039 943764 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfshaw. stability is for wimps. < 1388518088 504137 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, spaceteam. I didn't know it was called so. < 1388518140 882305 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kana is just wannabe hanzi. < 1388518157 889635 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1388518178 128019 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you have played or seen played? < 1388518283 288224 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION g�r och lagar lite mat
< 1388518286 424257 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388518326 485832 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION は楓棒でBikeに当たる　＊ボン＊！
< 1388518335 180146 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: seen. < 1388519049 168426 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388521036 473526 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently, by default, OpenERP stores user passwords without any encryption whatsoever. < 1388521051 133421 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has nausea
< 1388521113 895875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: erp. < 1388521139 589027 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: indeed. < 1388521249 972446 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw poor boily < 1388521255 218226 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives boily a moonshine
< 1388521266 260936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't need to worry about hyperintelligent ais. our computer systems are so broken it only takes a normal ai to take them over. < 1388521357 581817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperintelligent ais523? < 1388521365 807922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait now. maybe the government is keeping our computers broken _on purpose_ just so we'll have an early warning about hostile ais before they become hyperintelligent. < 1388521387 139249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all makes sense now! < 1388521409 387647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ais523 < 1388521411 563385 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agent “Iä” Smith is an alien with a strange allergy to avian body covering, which he is trying to retroactively prevent from ever evolving. On the 3rd of March, he's lawful good. < 1388521430 683272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alien, not ai. hth. < 1388521554 555505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, march 3 is when the main girl genius story line will resume. coincidence? also checking this made me discover the fill-in story updated on a tuesday! < 1388521668 993508 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gulps quintopia's 'shine
< 1388521682 571128 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: girl genius is still ongoing? < 1388521685 595845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHINE SHINE LIKE A STAR < 1388521711 477453 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how do you feel? < 1388521732 63777 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: shined. < 1388521745 776057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: um you mean in general, or over the just started hiatus? < 1388521758 757384 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the general allure of it all. < 1388521791 683261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: most definitely. you don't just end a story that wins hugos in 3 consecutive years... < 1388521842 208235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't expect it to end until we get an explanation for the time travel segments seen previously, and there isn't currently any sign of that happening yet... < 1388521919 799840 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy new year < 1388521927 970303 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to everyone who lives >3+ GMT < 1388521930 147301 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the whole gil/father mixup needs to be resolved < 1388521943 580721 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: time travel??? I think I'll have to get back on track eventually... < 1388521957 748299 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime mroman < 1388521958 574348 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for mroman is Tue Dec 31 21:32:37 2013 < 1388521961 163516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: not to mention agatha/mother... < 1388521985 283778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: those were a _long_ time ago, mind you. < 1388521988 853936 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime boily < 1388521989 300846 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for boily is Tue, 31 Dec 2013 15:33:08 -0500 < 1388522007 645130 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I dropped it a long time ago too. < 1388522012 975272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :back when they had the first events on board castle wulfenbach < 1388522074 167246 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :time travel? the time freeze was bad enough, hmm. maybe I have to reread the thing from the beginning. < 1388522156 28176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: incidentally, the time travel segment implies that certain characters who are currently in trouble should get out of it. < 1388522196 646932 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay. "You have been selected as a winner for using Google services." < 1388522212 64144 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYONE WINS! < 1388522216 263963 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except Taneb) < 1388522226 895515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: by time travel, i mean the apparitions dupree told the baron about. < 1388522272 772035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and iirc the baron correctly guessed that time travel was involved < 1388522293 517029 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ... re-reading it is. < 1388522300 543783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1388522341 755393 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388522347 549661 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, where is Taneb? < 1388522382 451773 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here < 1388522449 490610 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle! < 1388522493 169211 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388522528 60414 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dpaste.de/uyLZ/raw Whyy < 1388522530 909394 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover NICK :FreeFull < 1388522579 207824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: you are under attack hth < 1388522621 905102 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily < 1388522630 652139 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: oooooooooooooooh :D < 1388522661 3251 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to know who is doing this and why < 1388522740 425497 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny. one of those is proxyscan.freenode.net < 1388522752 656724 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATTACK < 1388522755 87595 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dpaste.de/p7bb/raw Part two, same IPs < 1388522775 278852 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you have got yourself a "misconfigured UPS guy" as well. < 1388522867 726745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :proxyscan.siglost.com, pridelands.org, v22010127734464199.yourvserver.net, gilman.megworld.co.uk, proxyscan.freenode.net and hitchcock.freenode.net, apparently. < 1388522884 358805 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :15.2 hours remaining before IOCCC 2013 entries cannot be released in 2013 (anywhere on earth). < 1388522892 314803 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I don't think those are actual attacks then < 1388523073 49115 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have thought to try reverse dns < 1388523091 97313 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why my router has been disconnecting from the net though. Probably ISP stupidity < 1388523100 743014 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, just port scans. "SPI attack" does not even make sense, I think. (gooduckhoo suggest "Stateful Packet Inspection") < 1388523128 322125 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it's supposed to vaguely translate to "attack detected by SPI". < 1388523140 979352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, unexpected incoming connections. < 1388523179 687717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though in that case it'd be slightly unclear what "TCP attack" means, then. < 1388523246 589881 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"See all those packets I've been dropping to keep you safe?" < 1388523283 867223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, my own "misconfigured UPS guy" has stopped. (Or at least is not active right now.) < 1388523286 317930 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Internet is a dangerous place. < 1388523361 214981 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :TCP attack could be something like unexpected SYNs < 1388523667 362208 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's what I was assuming "SPI attack" to be. Since it's vaguely related to connection state. < 1388523675 919079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SNEAK attack (bitch) < 1388523700 185712 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"HTH attack" is what happens on #esoteric often. < 1388523751 298277 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Followed by a TDNH defense. < 1388523840 565270 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 8888 8 8888888 8888888888 8 8888 8 .8. 8888888 8888888888 8888888 8888888888 .8. ,o888888o. 8 8888 ,88' < 1388523842 910397 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .888. 8 8888 8 8888 .888. 8888 `88. 8 8888 ,88' < 1388523844 998745 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 :88888. 8 8888 8 8888 :88888. ,8 8888 `8. 8 8888 ,88' < 1388523846 915813 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 . `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 . `88888. 88 8888 8 8888 ,88' < 1388523848 963778 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .8. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 .8. `88888. 88 8888 8 8888 ,88' < 1388523850 970488 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .8`8. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 .8`8. `88888. 88 8888 8 8888 88' < 1388523852 942461 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 8888888888888 8 8888 8 8888888888888 .8' `8. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 .8' `8. `88888. 88 8888 8 888888< < 1388523855 137812 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .8' `8. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 .8' `8. `88888.`8 8888 .8' 8 8888 `Y8. < 1388523856 906124 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .888888888. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 .888888888. `88888. 8888 ,88' 8 8888 `Y8. < 1388523858 991876 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .8' `8. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888.8' `8. `88888. `8888888P' 8 8888 `Y8. < 1388523879 153194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: c.c < 1388523880 280836 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   c.c.c < 1388523880 468938 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69    c.c < 1388523889 642520 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1388523891 915342 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c < 1388523892 251691 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     c.c.c < 1388523892 439809 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      c.c < 1388523911 894585 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hi hi hi ^^ < 1388523912 82829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :▌▌▜▘▌▌ ▄ ▟▖▟▖▄ ▗▖▌ < 1388523912 270996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :▛▌▐ ▛▌ ▄▌▐ ▐ ▄▌▌ ▙▘ < 1388523912 271171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :▘▘▝ ▘▘ ▀▘ ▘ ▘▀▘▝▘▘▘ < 1388523917 391693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure i approve of ASCII art that doesn't show correctly even when i make putty full screen. < 1388523918 85252 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1388523942 499077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is willing to tolerate a bit of ASCII art spam in the Spirit of New Year's, but only a bit
< 1388523943 556020 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi is not working, in spite of having much shorter nickname than mine < 1388523984 345393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably it requires the whole block to be to the right of your nick < 1388523994 11124 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence the trigger string is " c.c" < 1388523994 443526 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                          c.c.c < 1388523994 631598 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                           c.c < 1388523996 984955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ka-bam < 1388524002 791763 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like one bit would not be enough for a that much ASCII art. < 1388524015 951693 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: myndzi is a very strange bot. < 1388524031 152007 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it just so happens thatc.cit works also inside words, it can't be " c.c" literally. < 1388524044 214478 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I guess tdnw. < 1388524088 785661 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow. sil. tdnrh. < 1388524130 544344 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth, hand, stfu < 1388524157 924627 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nu. < 1388524158 226903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure that's a gc.cood test < 1388524161 135686 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Talk to the HAND, 'cuz the HTH ain't listening. < 1388524173 516901 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about if it's-|c.c|-like some non-word characters. < 1388524173 868478 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  c.c.c < 1388524174 56513 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                   c.c < 1388524182 608956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\bc.c\b < 1388524202 697507 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you know \bc\.c\b but that looks less itself like a face < 1388524206 752862 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a multi-line multi-ocular O? < 1388524209 793252 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Does the mIRC even do \b?) < 1388524214 465783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from now on when people tell me to stfu i will think of http://fluxlab.io/2013/12/06/stfu/ < 1388524223 892481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's a multi-ocular c.c < 1388524224 136293 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                       c.c.c < 1388524225 39170 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                        c.c < 1388524252 446559 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some weird mutants roaming in this chännel... < 1388524289 713971 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|c.c| < 1388524290 82393 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     c.c.c < 1388524290 270698 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      c.c < 1388524329 831484 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :｜c.c｜ < 1388524330 44210 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 c.c.c < 1388524330 232294 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  c.c < 1388524340 141801 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah! mine triggered alignedly! < 1388524422 854938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: high-powered mutants never intended for mass production < 1388524637 45322 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh \o/ < 1388524638 35267 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   | < 1388524638 223592 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  /| < 1388524671 767336 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|c.c|c.c|c.c| < 1388524680 773816 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c c.c c.c < 1388524681 346227 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  c.c.c  c.c.c  c.c.c < 1388524681 534270 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   c.c    c.c    c.c < 1388524690 199205 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :｜ c.c c.c c.c < 1388524690 387539 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  c.c.c  c.c.c  c.c.c < 1388524690 575638 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   c.c    c.c    c.c < 1388524843 451878 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bar fucks it up on my end < 1388524944 834192 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil double width unicode character < 1388525190 234626 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :異端！ < 1388525422 337717 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1388525561 935829 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nisstyre: nisstyrello. how are you by this End of Year? < 1388525952 471542 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bad < 1388525964 909219 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got "Compiling with Continuations" in the mail today < 1388526039 622241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're thinking with portals < 1388526086 838237 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I was just playing Portal 2 actually < 1388526220 109595 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good game. < 1388526417 905707 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1388526424 686815 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappearing for the night. < 1388526429 132813 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bonne Année à tous! < 1388526434 877302 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Quit: YEARLY CHICKEN! < 1388526437 797668 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388526438 27717 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :au revoir! < 1388527294 24304 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooo, the timezone of Finland just a 2014 is. < 1388527301 865708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is 2014, right?) < 1388527337 557993 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yes < 1388527341 802651 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are now in the future < 1388527371 455614 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It smells pretty much like the past did. < 1388527710 136152 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :51.5 minutes to go here, hmm < 1388527951 845784 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388528162 428432 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388528489 451467 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388528716 393407 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar LOWI < 1388528742 206606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :metagone < 1388528805 246126 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :-4.3 ... ok. see you next year. < 1388529011 851436 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388530898 18291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1388530898 245774 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ < 1388530898 815432 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 ¦ c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´69   | c.c.c |   `\o/´69  ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c | < 1388530899 3571 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69´¸¨ c.c /|  /| |   |    /´\ c.c /|     |    /| |/<  c.c  |\ < 1388530899 342855 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               (_|¯'¯|_)              /´\ < 1388530899 530815 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                    (_| |_) < 1388531252 345662 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy new year! < 1388531357 65363 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime FireFly < 1388531369 455959 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for FireFly is Wed, 01 Jan 2014 00:11:51 +0100 < 1388531384 293600 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy new year to you too < 1388531402 357529 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1388531402 919898 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | < 1388531403 107953 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 >\ < 1388531435 693456 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy new year! < 1388531721 813401 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck all of you from the future < 1388531890 810047 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't possibly be from the future < 1388531902 25178 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I be from the future, if I'm dead in the future? < 1388531961 215221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? future < 1388531963 131210 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :future? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1388531999 346577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "We know nothing about the future." >wisdom/future < 1388532003 40567 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1388532053 326825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? an allosaurus < 1388532054 896618 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :an allosaurus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1388532083 7330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait it doesn't work that direction. < 1388532816 634907 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? allosaurus < 1388532818 300666 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :allosaurus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1388532827 907695 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Vorpal < 1388532829 687822 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal is really boring. Seriously, you have no idea. < 1388532868 123897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lystrosaur < 1388532870 101581 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lystrosaurs were an ancient genus of evil reptiles who successfully took over the world in the early Triassic. < 1388532950 94964 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy new year, too! \o/ \o/ c.c \o_ < 1388532950 437214 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                     |    |  c.c.c  | < 1388532950 625183 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                     |\  /<   c.c   |\ < 1388532982 995590 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-88-50.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy new year's eve losers < 1388533179 941949 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388533683 519756 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1388533689 198471 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, yeah because I almost never talk < 1388533694 378464 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :These days that is < 1388534172 675843 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my, ocean in a bottle ... how could I forget? < 1388534195 380193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T DROP IT < 1388534280 62860 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :too late. < 1388534376 923404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :r.i.p. maldives