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00:01:21 <Phantom_Hoover> <Taneb> I... had problems with Arch that will not occur this time but now I am scared of Arch
00:01:21 <Phantom_Hoover> i've used arch for like two years
00:01:24 <Phantom_Hoover> i am scared of arch
00:01:39 <Phantom_Hoover> don't make the mistakes i did!
00:07:10 <LinearInterpol> arch is scary as shit but it's not as scary as slackware.
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00:32:50 <Bike> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1NTc cool
00:44:51 <myname> how is arch scary?
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00:47:31 <Taneb> myname, I had some problems installing it on my laptop due to problems with a) the university internet, and b) my laptop
00:47:41 <Taneb> Also, it gave me NOTHING
00:47:43 <Taneb> NOTHING
00:48:01 <Bike> well, i saw Arch in the gym once, trying to bench press like three hundred pounds. they almost managed it, but couldn't, and got so frustrated, they kicked the bed and it fell over
00:48:30 <myname> what
00:48:59 <Bike> Right? I mean you have to worry about that.
00:50:56 <oerjan> damn straight
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02:37:43 <augur> elliott: https://proofmarket.org/
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04:15:25 <Sgeo> Didn't robotstxt.org used to not have ads/
04:16:40 <Sgeo> o.O 2007 it switched. I feel old.
04:17:57 <Bike> in 2007 i was six years old
04:19:04 <kmc> really?
04:19:13 <Bike> not really
04:19:14 <kmc> that... doesn't quite add up
04:20:26 <Bike> if i was twelve i couldn't have gotten so blazed with sgeo back in indiana
04:21:58 <kmc> what
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04:23:29 <Bike> cool party once we figured out how to circumvent the import restrictions. can you believe they won't let you bring kegs of potassium iodide?
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04:46:42 <kmc> today in SF i saw a billboard reading "Facebook is #1, huh? I dare you to check out www.PrimeHangout.com Let the competition begin"
04:47:56 <Bike> kidneyfilm
04:48:13 <kmc> anusblog
04:48:19 <kmc> https://twitter.com/search?q=smell%20colon
04:48:55 <shachaf> kmc: i double dog dare you to check it out
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05:25:20 * Sgeo is unsure if Oz's approach to IO is morally distinct from lazy I/O
05:25:25 <Sgeo> At least Oz doesn't claim to be pure
05:25:43 <Sgeo> But I can see finalization being a problem... I think
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05:54:00 <Sgeo> A nice screenshot of Mozart/Oz in action: http://mozart.github.io/mozart-v1/doc-1.4.0/mozart-stdlib/wp/qtk/html/picture100.gif
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06:04:21 -!- kmc has set topic: SURLYSPAWN is part of the ANGRYNEIGHBOR family of radar retro-reflectors. | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/.
06:18:10 <kmc> http://leaksource.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/nsa-ant-ragemaster.jpg
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06:20:50 <Bike> http://i.imgur.com/qwZih9U.jpg Khadafy
06:21:31 <kmc> yep looks just like him
06:26:43 <Bike> Sgeo: is this like... intentional
06:26:57 <Sgeo> Bike: I assume not
06:37:09 <Sgeo> I THINK I UNDERSTAND DUAL NUMBERS NOW
06:37:28 <Sgeo> Or... maybe?
06:37:28 <Sgeo> http://mathwithbaddrawings.com/2013/08/07/0-999-and-the-debate-that-repeats-forever/
06:37:45 <Sgeo> Is the ε that that page describes the thing in dual numbers?
06:37:49 <Bike> the fuck is a dual number
06:37:59 <Bike> do you mean nonstandard numbers
06:38:16 <Sgeo> ε^2 = 0
06:38:51 <Sgeo> ε!=0
06:39:06 <Bike> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIwUAqavC7I
06:39:11 <Sgeo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_number
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06:40:23 <Bike> you can have a real times that eps, so, no
06:40:57 <shachaf> 0.999... is actually equal to 2
06:41:02 <shachaf> little known fact
06:42:15 <shachaf> anyway it seems the person who wrote that article is mostly right but doesn't really properly know why they're right
06:43:54 <Sgeo> Bike: oh, make sense (bad way to phrase that though)
06:44:08 <Bike> you're a bad way to phrase
06:44:35 <shachaf> Bike: Sgeo was telling you to make sense
06:44:48 <Bike> i'm incapable
06:44:50 <shachaf> fungot: make sense
06:44:50 <fungot> shachaf: why do think the media is happily trying to waste taxpayer money
06:44:52 <Sgeo> *makes sense
06:45:02 <shachaf> fungot whoaaaaaaaa
06:45:02 <fungot> shachaf: its not for everyone of course. hegel thought it was more like
06:45:32 <Bike> hegel?? fungot don't do this to me
06:45:32 <fungot> Bike: it's crashed like 6 times today. it also affects ability to understand quantified nouns
06:45:44 <shachaf> fungot: hegel was, like, the man. tell me more
06:45:44 <fungot> shachaf: i think i'll do some work. fnord because it looks stupid
06:45:53 <Bike> yes, i get that from hegel as well, fungot, why don't you talk about spinoza or something instead
06:45:53 <fungot> Bike: because it is evolutionarily superior to most computers. is that right? but now, by the way
06:46:14 <Bike> no, fungot, it is not right. spinoza's computer was only evolutionary superior to some mechanical bookshelves.
06:46:14 <fungot> Bike: i just mean, of course). cool! :d)
06:46:37 <shachaf> fungot: wow don't listen to Bike he's just a bicycle
06:46:37 <fungot> shachaf: the place you applying isn't worth applying for i'd say it was a single large heap for all processes."
06:46:48 <shachaf> fungot: can i have more ""fungot wisdom""
06:46:48 <fungot> shachaf: some athena machines use various snapshots named fnord some others use 7.7.1 ( from fnord):
06:47:14 <Bike> Sgeo: i mean, with a smallest possible nubmer your'e basically giving up on rationals. and who doesn't like rationals?
06:47:59 <shachaf> who says you need a smallest possible number
06:48:11 <Bike> this adrian kid.
06:48:45 * Sgeo hides the 0 from Bike
06:49:01 <Bike> smallest nonnegative number
06:49:11 * Sgeo keeps hiding the 0 from Bike
06:49:48 <shachaf> wow i'm not getting involved in a 0.9 argument
06:49:52 <shachaf> even a fake one
06:50:14 <Sgeo> shachaf: don't you dare try to tell me that 0.999 repeating is equal to 0.9
06:50:21 <coppro> the smallest nonnegative number is 0
06:50:22 <coppro> duh
06:50:26 <shachaf> Bike: imo how about this
06:50:34 <shachaf> 0.999... doesn't exist because it's an infinite sum
06:50:44 <Bike> hahaha
06:50:47 <shachaf> and i'm a super duper constructivist, i only believe in things you can do in finite time
06:51:15 <Sgeo> 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + ... = 0 * inf = ?
06:51:31 <Bike> i can convince people that .999... exists in finite time. your move
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06:51:39 <shachaf> prove it
06:51:49 <Bike> also fuck the nonnegative thing you know what i mean argh.
06:51:49 <shachaf> btw i'm the only people in the world
06:52:01 <Bike> how do youe xplain the eistence of jeorge bush
06:52:05 <shachaf> Bike: "strictly nonnegative" hth
06:52:30 <Bike> bush is pretty negative in my book
06:52:54 <mauke> 0.999... is syntactic sugar for lim_{n->inf} sum_{i=1}^{n} 9 * 10^-i
06:53:23 <Sgeo> You and your real math. Go have an i
06:53:31 <shachaf> i don't believe in lim, sry
06:53:44 <shachaf> wait, or do i believe in lim but just don't believe that that limit is the same as 1
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06:54:42 <shachaf> http://math.andrej.com/2008/08/13/intuitionistic-mathematics-for-physics/comment-page-1/#comment-21652
06:55:41 <Bike> golly, but you get such weird functions from diffs
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06:57:35 <Bike> i know a guy whose thesis is just on integrating products of besselffunctions. how wack is that
06:58:23 <shachaf> imo why
06:58:28 <mauke> ffunctions⁈
06:58:46 <shachaf> ffunction
06:58:54 <mauke> they're like regular functions but louder
06:59:46 <Bike> cos it helps understand optics in turbulent media, duh
07:00:00 <Bike> turbulence is fucked up imo
07:00:36 <Sgeo> shachaf: I know the (d/dx)(e^x)=e^x makes sense, but I don't know how to make heads or tales of that comment, whether it's sensible or idiotic
07:00:44 <shachaf> Which comment?
07:00:52 <Sgeo> The one you linked to
07:01:05 <Sgeo> "Anonymous: You’re right about the derivative of xn and wrong about the derivative of ex. "
07:01:06 <shachaf> The one by Bauer?
07:01:11 <shachaf> It's sensible.
07:01:11 <Sgeo> yeah
07:01:12 <Sgeo> Oh
07:01:15 <kmc> `unidecode ꟼ
07:01:21 <HackEgo> ​[U+A7FC LATIN EPIGRAPHIC LETTER REVERSED P]
07:03:20 <shachaf> it makes me sad that people have decided that http://adit.io/posts/2013-04-17-functors,_applicatives,_and_monads_in_pictures.html is a good introduction and link to it a lot
07:03:31 <Sgeo> I'm sad that the IRTC is dead
07:03:38 <Sgeo> But... RUSTY VIDEO I HAVEN"T SEEN BEFORE
07:03:40 <shachaf> i know the author, too. but that introduction makes me sad
07:04:39 <kmc> why is it bad
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07:06:22 <shachaf> approximately the usual reasons
07:06:23 <Sgeo> http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/anims/2007-01-15/rusty032.mpg
07:07:13 <shachaf> bad analogies, subtle mistakes, missing or not explaining the point of an abstraction such that it seems pointless
07:11:14 <Sgeo> ftp://ftp.irtc.org/pub/COPYRIGHT
07:11:21 <Sgeo> So much for putting IRTC videos on YouTube
07:11:34 <Sgeo> 5. Entrant grants the right of private recreational or non-commercial
07:11:34 <Sgeo> use to the general public, EXCEPTING THE RESTRICTIONS (5.1) AND (5.2) below.
07:11:34 <Sgeo> 5.1. Distribution is not allowed on any storage media that are
07:11:34 <Sgeo> accessible over the Internet or similar Wide Area Networks. This prohibits
07:11:34 <Sgeo> the use of these files on FTP, WWW or gopher sites, among others.
07:12:16 <Sgeo> Well, technically YouTube would only be publically serving a derived work of the original files... which I guess counts?
07:18:58 <Sgeo> http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/anims/
07:19:02 <Sgeo> Such... low-quality
07:19:06 <Sgeo> Someone should rerender some of them
07:19:16 <elliott> who are you talking to
07:19:47 <Sgeo> #esoteric
07:20:52 <elliott> ok
07:25:56 <Bike> man, squarepusher is fun.
07:27:39 <Sgeo> http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/stills/accepted/twstcube.jpg
07:28:00 <Bike> that is not squarepusher
07:28:07 <Bike> do you know squarepusher (geddit)
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07:28:44 <kmc> `unidecode ï̈
07:28:45 <HackEgo> ​[U+00EF LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH DIAERESIS] [U+0308 COMBINING DIAERESIS]
07:28:55 <Sgeo> http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/stills/accepted/dragon.jpg
07:28:56 <Bike> metal
07:29:03 <Sgeo> I have no idea how that's a dragon
07:29:20 <Bike> think spine. think inside of liver.
07:29:22 <kmc> it's fuckin pretty though
07:30:35 <Sgeo> "The adventurer was weary; for more time than he cared to think he had been digging through the hinterlands of calculus, trying to resurrect long-lost skills. Suddenly, while leaning inward to examine a convoluted function, he finds himself staring into the eyes of a dragon. It's that diabolical worm, Complexity!"
07:30:40 <Sgeo> http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/stills/accepted/dragon.txt
07:31:07 <Sgeo> "(POV-Ray seems like an excellent tool for visualization in an engineering context!)"
07:31:25 <Sgeo> Ray-tracing might be overkill for engineering? Certainly a modeling language like that might be nice I guess
07:33:33 <Sgeo> http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/stills/accepted/1004cplx.jpg
07:39:54 <Sgeo> I should look to see what other renderers besides LuxRender have galleries
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07:48:23 <shachaf> http://iml.univ-mrs.fr/~girard/0.pdf
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08:03:01 <Sgeo> If Cont is the mother of all monads, is there a name for the monads that ListT State s (or is it StateT [s]?) is the mother of?
08:03:55 <shachaf> It's Codensity, not Cont.
08:04:31 <shachaf> "mother" is not a precise relationship between monads.
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08:45:25 <ion> Britain. http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/14/artificial-leg-prompts-paedophile-panic-at-swimming-pool-and-evacuation-of-children-4230694/
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10:53:45 <coppro> darn it, I wanted to ask ais something before he went to bed
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10:57:40 <coppro> AnotherTest: do you pass the turing test?
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10:58:42 * oerjan senses from the logs that Bike may not live in quite the same reality as the rest of us. and that his reality has an alternate Sgeo.
10:59:54 <oerjan> idea: a bot that passes the turing test by complaining loudly about the insult of putting it to the test.
11:05:02 <coppro> haha
11:05:17 <coppro> so basically a rob ford bot
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12:08:01 <mroman> There are no numbers above 7?
12:08:49 <int-e> that's stronger than "all odd numbers (other than 1) are prime"
12:09:46 <int-e> (Well, the two statements are logically equivalent. At least it's not weaker.)
12:13:15 <oerjan> `factor -3
12:13:20 <HackEgo> factor: invalid option -- '3' \ Try `factor --help' for more information.
12:13:26 <oerjan> weak.
12:13:48 <oerjan> `factor 1729
12:13:50 <HackEgo> 1729: 7 13 19
12:15:01 <int-e> `factor -- -3
12:15:03 <HackEgo> factor: unrecognized option '-- -3' \ Try `factor --help' for more information.
12:15:17 <oerjan> `run factor -- -3
12:15:18 <int-e> factor: ‘-3’ is not a valid positive integer
12:15:19 <HackEgo> factor: `-3' is not a valid positive integer
12:15:34 <int-e> `factor --version
12:15:36 <HackEgo> factor (GNU coreutils) 8.5 \ Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>. \ This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. \ There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. \ \ Written by Paul Rubin.
12:15:48 <oerjan> discriminating against the negatives again
12:16:48 <mroman> How dou you count strongness?
12:16:50 <mroman> *do
12:17:17 <mroman> There are no numbers > There are no numbers above 7?
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12:18:40 <oerjan> theoretically, there can only be one conjecture stronger than that. since otherwise there would be more than 7.
12:19:04 <oerjan> qed
12:19:06 <int-e> mroman: I would say that a statement A is stronger than B if A "obviously" implies B. Logically, "obviously" cannot be defined, so in the end the implication is all that's left.
12:20:47 <mroman> I see.
12:24:05 <int-e> Ah, we could explain the implication more explicitely using models. A is stronger than B (in a theory T) if every model of A (and T) is also a model of B.
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12:24:24 <mroman> I don't know about models
12:24:32 <mroman> but it sounds like if B is a subset of A
12:24:55 <mroman> then A is stronger
12:24:58 <mroman> or actually...
12:25:01 <mroman> "smaller"
12:25:36 <mroman> which sounds the same as your implication explanation
12:25:46 <int-e> A model specifies how operations used in formulas work. A model of the natural numbers would be a set of numbers together with successor, addition and multiplication.
12:26:11 <mroman> and what distinguishes them from a group
12:26:13 <mroman> or ring?
12:26:49 <mroman> oh
12:26:55 <int-e> The notion of models is more general. A group is a model of the group axioms. A field is a model of the field axioms.
12:26:59 <mroman> the model actually defines what a successor is?
12:28:30 <int-e> yes, it does
12:29:39 <int-e> `factor 170141183460469231731687303715884105727
12:29:40 <HackEgo> factor: `170141183460469231731687303715884105727' is too large
12:30:04 <int-e> `factor 9223372036854775808
12:30:05 <HackEgo> 9223372036854775808: 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
12:30:10 <oerjan> HackEgo: USE THE QUANTUM
12:30:42 <oerjan> > 2^100
12:30:43 <lambdabot> 1267650600228229401496703205376
12:30:48 <oerjan> > 2^150
12:30:49 <lambdabot> 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746624
12:30:58 <oerjan> `factor 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746624
12:31:00 <HackEgo> factor: `1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746624' is too large
12:31:09 <oerjan> HackEgo: YOU'RE NOT EVEN TRYING
12:31:17 <int-e> `factor 18446744073709551615
12:31:19 <HackEgo> 18446744073709551615: 3 5 17 257 641 65537 6700417
12:31:21 <int-e> `factor 18446744073709551616
12:31:22 <HackEgo> factor: `18446744073709551616' is too large
12:31:26 <int-e> > 2^64
12:31:27 <lambdabot> 18446744073709551616
12:32:01 <int-e> `eval factorize 18446744073709551617
12:32:02 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: eval: not found
12:32:19 <fizzie> W|A can factor 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746624 just fine.
12:32:49 <int-e> so can gp/pari
12:33:07 <fizzie> But does it have a "step-by-step solution" button?
12:33:15 <fizzie> (Though I'd need to sign in for that to actually do anything.)
12:33:22 <oerjan> > mod 18446744073709551617 7
12:33:23 <lambdabot> 3
12:33:26 <int-e> hah.
12:33:48 <int-e> I mean, that particular case is probably fine ... just 150 trial divisions.
12:34:04 <oerjan> > mod 18446744073709551617 <$> [7,11,13,19,23]
12:34:05 <lambdabot> [3,6,4,18,7]
12:34:22 <oerjan> hm not that easy
12:34:42 <fizzie> It doesn't give a step-by-step solution button for the prime 170141183460469231731687303715884105727 -- at least in the same box.
12:34:47 <int-e> > 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746625 == 5^3*13*41*61*101*1201*1321*8101*63901*268401*13334701*1182468601
12:34:48 <lambdabot> False
12:34:58 <fizzie> (There's a step-by-step solution button in the "divisors" box, though.)
12:35:35 <fizzie> For the prime factorization of 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746625 there is the button. I'm tempted, but not tempted enough to make an account.
12:35:55 <oerjan> > mod 18446744073709551617 <$> [29,31,37,41,43,47,53,59]
12:35:56 <lambdabot> [25,17,13,17,42,26,16,6]
12:36:24 <int-e> > 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746625 == product [5,5,5,13,41,61,101,1201,1321,8101,63901,268501,13334701,1182468601]
12:36:25 <lambdabot> True
12:36:41 <int-e> fizzie: so what does a step-by-step solution for that look like?
12:37:24 <int-e> `factor 18446744073709551617
12:37:25 <HackEgo> factor: `18446744073709551617' is too large
12:37:30 <oerjan> oh w|a says the smallest factor is 274177
12:37:30 <fizzie> > mod 18446744073709551617 <$> [274177, 67280421310721] -- oerjan: let's just cut to the chase, eh?
12:37:31 <lambdabot> [0,0]
12:37:36 <int-e> pari says ... 274177*67280421310721. right.
12:37:47 <fizzie> int-e: I don't know; that's why I was tempted.
12:38:22 * int-e should do some shopping before the shops close, bbl.
12:38:52 <int-e> `factor 1182468601
12:38:53 <HackEgo> 1182468601: 1182468601
12:39:09 <int-e> in fact, how does a step by step solution for this (a primality test) look like? :-)
12:39:24 <oerjan> no wonder fermat was confused about these numbers.
12:39:32 <fizzie> It doesn't give a step-by-step solution button for (large) primes.
12:39:54 <fizzie> Or for that 18446744073709551617 either.
12:40:05 <int-e> (One would have to look at primality certificates. Maybe some of those are verifiable by humans.)
12:41:52 <oerjan> oh right fermat numbers must have factors of a particular form
12:42:14 <oerjan> `factor 274176
12:42:15 <HackEgo> 274176: 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 7 17
12:45:14 <oerjan> <Bike> yes, i get that from hegel as well, fungot, why don't you talk about spinoza or something instead <-- yeah everyone else is just a spin-off
12:45:15 <fungot> oerjan: this bug seems to have been removed from cvs already. ( i don't know
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13:43:15 <FireFly> It's a good thing that fungot is self-sentinent so that it knows about bugs in its source-code that have been fixed
13:43:15 <fungot> FireFly: unix using ascii. do you get?
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13:49:00 <oerjan> `pastlog oVXmWnfARC4
13:49:32 <HackEgo> No output.
13:49:36 <oerjan> `pastlog oVXmWnfARC4
13:50:08 <HackEgo> No output.
13:50:23 <oerjan> i guess no one's linked http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVXmWnfARC4 here before
13:50:36 <oerjan> (youtube suggested it to me >_>)
14:00:20 <Taneb> I have just thought of something ridiculous
14:01:01 <Taneb> But very interesting
14:01:06 <Taneb> And probably already done
14:02:40 <oerjan> @pinky Are you thinking what Taneb is thinking?
14:02:40 <lambdabot> Uh, I think so Brain, but this time, you wear the tutu.
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14:05:59 <oerjan> ~metar ENVA
14:06:00 <metasepia> ENVA 311350Z 28004KT 9999 VCSH FEW034 OVC048 06/01 Q0997 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 26011KT
14:10:31 <oerjan> `ello metasepia
14:10:34 <HackEgo> metasepello
14:10:47 <oerjan> huh
14:10:50 <boily> neat.
14:10:58 <boily> also, good cryogenic morning!
14:11:02 <boily> ~metar CYQB
14:11:03 <metasepia> CYQB 311400Z 27002KT 30SM BKN085 BKN110 M22/M28 A3015 RMK AC5AC2 SLP218
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14:52:48 <boily> hellinelloarintellorpellol.
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15:07:26 <FireFly> ~metar ESSA
15:07:27 <metasepia> ESSA 311450Z 19013KT 9999 FEW020 SCT040 04/01 Q1012 R01L/29//95 R08/29//95 R01R/29//95 NOSIG
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15:17:57 <lifthrasiir> happy new year at UTC+08:42:03!
15:20:24 <oerjan> lifthrasiir: wait is that an actual timezone
15:20:43 <lifthrasiir> dunno
15:22:05 <boily> @localtime lifthrasiir
15:22:07 <lambdabot> Local time for lifthrasiir is Wed Jan 1 00:22:06 2014
15:22:36 <boily> 새해 복 많이 받으세요!
15:23:10 <lifthrasiir> thank you!
15:24:22 <boily> (that reminds me I need to set-up korean in my terminal. the default font choice is... creative. not quite zalgo-esque, but it has some eldritch tendencies.)
15:26:12 <oerjan> maybe it's north korean, that would do it right
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16:09:42 <quintopia> happy old year, boily!
16:10:10 <boily> joyeuse vieille année, quintopia!
16:10:58 <quintopia> what are you going to do with all this time?
16:12:26 <boily> today? work, then a few jousts of towerfall, then yearend TV specials. probably going to involve a few cups of wine here and there.
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16:12:33 <boily> (and an ounce or two of scotch :D)
16:13:17 <olsner> oh, is canada already in the future?
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16:14:31 <olsner> hmm, are you ahead or behind in time? should be behind, if japan is ahead
16:14:32 <boily> olsner: you're more futury than me. it's still a quarter past 11am here.
16:14:52 * olsner of the future says hi
16:15:17 <olsner> quarter past five here
16:15:20 <impomatic> What's 2014 like?
16:15:50 <boily> impomatic: you'll have to ask lifthrasiir. he's the most Futurian of us all. I think.
16:16:11 * impomatic plans to complete OMEGA by Origin in 2014 :-)
16:16:22 <boily> `? zimbabwe
16:16:24 <HackEgo> olsner's desk points zimbabwards. it is highly dependent on tswett's michiganic orientation.
16:16:33 <olsner> fwiw, 2014 has the same number of factors as 2013, and their average is the same
16:16:37 <lifthrasiir> boily, it's like... Wednesday.
16:17:04 <olsner> lifthrasiir: what color is wednesday?
16:17:08 <boily> impomatic: apparently, 2014 is made of factors and wednesdays.
16:18:03 <lifthrasiir> olsner, kind error
16:18:41 <nooodl> "I have a file named a┤rv.txt on Windows, I'd like to know if this file exists."
16:18:46 <nooodl> these stackoverflow questions are getting philosophical
16:19:00 <olsner> I'm not quite sure what color kind error is, but it could be a great color to start a year
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16:20:09 <boily> the new Kind Error Collection from Holt Renfrew.
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16:22:57 <oerjan> `run factor 2013; factor 2014
16:22:59 <HackEgo> 2013: 3 11 61 \ 2014: 2 19 53
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16:23:39 <olsner> oops, actually, 2013 has 0.3 higher average factor
16:23:47 <oerjan> shocking
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16:23:56 <olsner> or 1/3, to be more exact
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16:24:58 <boily> ~eval let avg xs = fromIntegral (sum xs) / fromIntegral (length xs) in (avg . primeFactors $ 2013) - (avg . primeFactors $ 2014)
16:25:07 <metasepia> 0.33333333333333215
16:25:31 <oerjan> ooh
16:26:04 <olsner> ~eval let avg xs = fromIntegral (sum xs) % fromIntegral (length xs) in (avg . primeFactors $ 2013) - (avg . primeFactors $ 2014)
16:26:05 <metasepia> 1 % 3
16:26:44 <oerjan> > findIndex id $ zipWith(==)`ap`tail $ avg . primeFactors <$> [1..]
16:26:45 <lambdabot> Not in scope: `avg'Not in scope: `primeFactors'
16:26:56 <oerjan> oops
16:26:58 <boily> neener neener :D
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16:27:27 <oerjan> ~eval let avg xs = fromIntegral (sum xs) / fromIntegral (length xs) in findIndex id $ zipWith(==)`ap`tail $ avg . primeFactors <$> [1..]
16:27:28 <metasepia> Just 734
16:27:39 <lifthrasiir> `run factor 2013.5
16:27:41 <HackEgo> factor: `2013.5' is not a valid positive integer
16:28:03 <olsner> `run factor 20135
16:28:04 <HackEgo> 20135: 5 4027
16:28:19 <oerjan> `run factor 733; factor 734; factor 735
16:28:21 <HackEgo> 733: 733 \ 734: 2 367 \ 735: 3 5 7 7
16:28:26 <olsner> .5 and 4027 or 5 and 402.7 then
16:29:16 <olsner> `run factor 736
16:29:18 <HackEgo> 736: 2 2 2 2 2 23
16:29:40 <oerjan> ~eval let avg xs = fromIntegral (sum xs) / fromIntegral (length xs) in avg . primeFactors <$> [732..]
16:29:41 <metasepia> [17.0,733.0,184.5,5.5,5.5,39.0,12.25,739.0,11.5,11.666666666666666,20.666666666666668,743.0,8.0,77.0,187.5,29.666666666666668,8.0,57.0,4.0,751.0,11.0,127.0,14.666666666666666,78.0,3.3333333333333335,757.0,190.5,12.333333333333334,6.0,761.0,44.0,58.0,65.0,7.0,192.5,36.0,2.111111111111111,769.0,6.25,130.0,65.66666666666667,773.0,12.75,13.666666666666666,25.75,15.666666666666666,195.5,30.0,5.0,41.0,14.0,9.5,3.6666666666666665,81.0,45.333333333333336,787.
16:30:11 <oerjan> oh the off by one is in the other direction
16:31:02 <olsner> [1..] !! 734 is 735, and the tail has the next entry on the same index
16:31:59 <oerjan> `run echo "An off by two error is what happens when you expect an off by one error but compensate in the wrong direction" >wisdom/'off by two error'
16:32:03 <HackEgo> No output.
16:32:54 <lifthrasiir> or off by one point five error. (like OpenGL pixel-perfect rendering, for example)
16:33:10 <olsner> `run mv wisdom/off\ by\ two\ error wisdom/off\ by\ two
16:33:14 <HackEgo> No output.
16:33:45 <quintopia> boily: bfjoust is better than towerfall
16:33:54 <olsner> what's a radar retro-reflector?
16:34:39 <fizzie> I assume something that reflects typical radar signals well towards their source.
16:34:53 <olsner> isn't that just a reflector?
16:34:53 <fizzie> Based on what the retro-reflectors they've put on the moon are like.
16:34:54 <quintopia> something that bounces a radar signal directly back at the transmitter
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16:35:08 <quintopia> no matter what angle the incoming signal is coming from
16:35:15 <olsner> ah, towards the source
16:35:16 <olsner> yes
16:36:41 * oerjan wonders if those are good defenses against laser weapons
16:36:49 <FireFly> lifthrasiir: oh, that's where it comes from? I guess that's why <canvas> does that too
16:37:18 <oerjan> well visible light ones
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16:38:35 <oerjan> hm i suppose they would have the disadvantage of being extremely easy to search for
16:39:20 <boily> quintopia: I can punch my bro when playing Towerfall.
16:39:32 <lifthrasiir> FireFly, google for "diamond exit rule", I think. (and AFAIK it does not affect the rendering of triangle primitives)
16:39:37 <oerjan> which would be an argumet against putting them on armor
16:39:42 <oerjan> *+n
16:40:06 <olsner> maybe you could enable and disable the retroreflectiveness, and only enable them when being hit by a bright enough laser beam
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16:40:37 <fizzie> oerjan: Sounds like it might be a tradeoff between the reflection coefficient you can achieve (presumably higher for a simple reflective surface) and the possibly desirable feature of doing something to the source.
16:40:38 <oerjan> well that would require an active device
16:40:53 <fizzie> oerjan: You could just coat a reflective surface with something that burns away easily when hit by a laser.
16:40:56 <fizzie> oerjan: That's pretty passive.
16:41:14 <fizzie> (But still black until shot at.)
16:41:15 <oerjan> fizzie: huh
16:41:41 <fizzie> (Disclaimer: IANAWD.)
16:42:09 <LinearInterpol> I am not a wizard dog?
16:42:13 <boily> fizzie: you are not a weapon of destruction?
16:42:18 <fizzie> Weapon designer.
16:42:26 <LinearInterpol> ...
16:42:28 <LinearInterpol> wizard dog.
16:42:37 <boily> I'm with LinearInterpol here.
16:42:38 <fizzie> I have to admit I'm not a wizard dog either.
16:42:46 <LinearInterpol> we know you are.
16:42:50 <fizzie> (Incidentally, "energy weapon" sounds pretty silly, since it's so vague.)
16:42:55 <olsner> airborne wizard dog
16:44:00 <boily> google translate is of no help here. we could have had “Fizzie, King of Airborne Wizard Dogs” in Finnish.
16:44:20 <oerjan> something something koira hth
16:45:15 <oerjan> except probably some other case
16:46:26 <FireFly> Apparently Google Translate translates en:wizard to sv:guide, presumably because of setup wizard thingys
16:46:57 <oerjan> boily: Fizzie, kuningas ilmassa ohjatun koiria hth
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16:47:11 <oerjan> (_not_ capitalizing everything helped.)
16:47:59 <oerjan> `? fizzie
16:48:02 <HackEgo> fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg
16:48:20 <boily> how do you pronounce “hth” in Finnish?
16:48:30 <oerjan> boily: painfully
16:48:44 <LinearInterpol> that makes my mouth hurt just reading that.
16:49:00 <boily> oerjan: the PDF is updated ♪
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16:50:27 <oerjan> boily: wait with what. oh right.
16:51:50 <boily> LinearInterpol: apparently, it's easier in Finnish: en:hth → fi:tea.
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16:52:03 <LinearInterpol> ...huh.
16:52:49 <boily> and then, you have fr:eça.
16:52:50 <fizzie> "Lentävien velhokoirien kuningas" (lit. "[flying] [of wizard dogs] [king]") would be more natural Finnish, if you want the fantasy kind of wizard.
16:53:41 <oerjan> and norwegian ruins all with hdh, hth
16:54:01 <boily> no:“hope dhat helps”?
16:54:21 <oerjan> CLOSE
16:54:46 <oerjan> (håper det hjelper)
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16:56:59 <FireFly> I'd invest in fizziecoins
16:57:49 <FireFly> oerjan: http://www.cederroth.com/temp/2130047399.png hth
16:58:27 * boily is rainbowly frightened
16:58:45 <LinearInterpol> im scared of colors.
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17:01:35 <olsner> hth is hdh in swedish too hth
17:01:53 <olsner> (hoppas det hjlper)
17:02:20 <oerjan> I KNEW IT *MWAHAHAHAHA*
17:02:25 <olsner> and hth in english is hdh (helps dry hands)
17:02:43 <boily> aide à sécher les mains.
17:03:01 <oerjan> boily: i think that's backwards
17:03:06 <olsner> boily: that's not english
17:03:09 <oerjan> this is dry the adjective
17:03:51 <oerjan> aide à les mains séches maybe?
17:04:05 <boily> aide les mains sèches.
17:04:14 <boily> (aider is transitive.)
17:04:54 <oerjan> ô kaille
17:05:13 <boily> I'll have to remember that one. «ô kaille». he he he :D
17:05:32 <olsner> fizzie: are you flying or are the wizard dogs flying?
17:06:16 <fizzie> TTOA ("toivottavasti tästä oli apua") might be a Finnish hth hth
17:08:02 <oerjan> "Swanbeck upptäckte i mitten av 1960-talet att torr hud har brist på fuktgivande ämnen." shocking
17:08:36 <olsner> indeed, amazing discovery
17:09:38 <boily> sounds ominous...
17:10:23 <boily> like we say here, «plus qu'il neige, plus qu'il y a de la neige.»
17:10:44 <fizzie> In other news: taking a shower gets you wet because of an abundance of water?
17:11:49 <oerjan> clearly publishable paper there
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17:12:55 <olsner> fizzie: actually it's the wetness of the water that does it
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17:14:08 <oerjan> gt seems to have this strange idea il y a should have an accent
17:15:10 <olsner> who're gt and ilya?
17:15:33 <oerjan> gt = google translate. ilya is some russian.
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17:16:02 <boily> oerjan: gt is wrong. WRONG!
17:16:24 <olsner> gt can also mean: gin and tonic
17:16:26 <oerjan> boily: other google sources made me suspect as much.
17:16:50 <oerjan> around trondheim, mostly ilya dubkov.
17:19:39 <fizzie> Gran Turismo.
17:19:57 <boily> «il y a», literally “he have at this place”
17:21:30 * oerjan actually knows what il y a means, being among the few things not forgotten from his school french
17:22:28 <olsner> is y = here? that part of school french failed to stick, apparently
17:22:41 <olsner> il and a I can recognize as he and have
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17:24:05 <kmc> `localtime lifthrasiir
17:24:06 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: localtime: not found
17:24:11 <kmc> @localtime lifthrasiir
17:24:13 <lambdabot> Local time for lifthrasiir is Wed Jan 1 02:24:12 2014
17:26:10 <boily> oerjan: «y» is the accusative of «ici».
17:26:38 <olsner> I see
17:27:19 <boily> it has also a bunch of derivative meanings all related to “here”, “now”, “oneself”.
17:27:29 <olsner> not quite sure why that word would have cases though
17:27:54 <boily> along with pronouns, those are the last vestigial remnants of cases in French.
17:29:26 <olsner> e.g. german where cases are much alive, doesn't have cases for 'hier' afaik
17:35:09 <boily> @tell Koen_ it's been a long time since I disturbed you with Québécois.
17:35:09 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
17:39:41 <kmc> what color should i paint my fingernails for the new year?
17:39:53 <LinearInterpol> hot pink
17:40:07 <oerjan> mandelbrot pattern
17:40:13 <LinearInterpol> julia set.
17:40:23 <boily> douglass_: what colour should kmc be?
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17:40:54 <boily> kmc: I say, Cantor Dust.
17:40:54 <oerjan> douglass_ seems blissfully idle
17:41:14 <kmc> fungot: what colour should i paint my fingernails for the new year?
17:41:15 <fungot> kmc: it certainly shouldn't take that long. :p the cost is only 2.5e (!) directfb/ core/ pul/ collection.plof this has a cutoff constant in it somewhere. it a house consisting from 6 houses
17:41:29 <kmc> i'm gonna keep asking fungot until i get an answer
17:41:29 <fungot> kmc: probably the only one he used. right? right? ( fnord!
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17:42:06 <boily> kmc: fungot probably is going to recommend some Deep Iridescent Fnord.
17:42:06 <fungot> boily: 90% of my market would be windows and i develop software for all of them
17:42:31 <olsner> kmc: you should paint them kind error
17:43:01 <olsner> fungot: or do you have a better idea?+
17:43:01 <fungot> olsner: why do you care? nobody will make you fnord if you want, implementing conses ( including set-car!/set-cdr!) in your saliva, then the doc said " oh, i see
17:43:45 <douglass_> hi
17:43:56 <kmc> fungot: I'm finding out that you can't mess around with saliva!
17:43:56 <fungot> kmc: you actually wrote these, and i refuse to take anything on faith, riastradh. from now on.
17:43:57 <douglass_> umm, I don't know
17:43:59 <boily> fungot: no. I don't want to make fnord in my saliva, and yes I care.
17:43:59 <fungot> boily: it's always nice to eat or something
17:44:10 <douglass_> Cantor Dust isn't a color
17:44:30 <boily> fungot: I'm hungry.
17:44:30 <fungot> boily: what is ihope? this x thing, so you can't go any further with clisms.
17:48:35 <douglass_> The structural color of the fruit of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollia_condensata
17:49:44 <boily> I refuse to believe a fruit made of tinfoil and electric blue sparkly plastic resin exists in nature.
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17:50:26 <olsner> where did you think tinfoil came from?
17:50:52 <douglass_> it's true, everyone knows tinfoil doesn't come from tin
17:51:03 <boily> olsner: from tinfoil mines in the Great North.
17:51:26 <olsner> tin- is just thin without the h
17:53:28 <oerjan> boily: it's just one of the many proofs that we are living in a simulation hth
17:54:10 * boily dons his maple-tinfoil hat
17:55:34 <oerjan> douglass_: _real_ tinfoil comes from tin. it's also the only kind that protects against mind control rays, which explains why you cannot get it any more. hth..hth
17:55:38 <oerjan> oops
17:55:47 * oerjan misunderstands the script
17:56:40 <oerjan> perhaps it will work better if i include some spaces, twh.
17:57:03 <olsner> which script?
17:57:19 <boily> olsner: Oerjan's Shackles.
17:57:25 <oerjan> the script that prevents me from saying
17:58:01 <olsner> I see, htwh
17:58:14 <oerjan> yw
17:59:27 <boily> the Kleen Star of All Help Combinations
17:59:58 <boily> s/n\b/ne/
18:00:34 <boily> `run echo 'test' | sed -e 'st\ttTt'
18:00:36 <HackEgo> Test
18:01:54 <oerjan> very sane command.
18:02:58 <boily>
18:03:27 <kmc> douglass_: wow those are pretty
18:11:47 <oerjan> happy australian mailman list reminder day!
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18:29:41 <FireFly> fungot: have you made any new year resolutions?
18:29:41 <fungot> FireFly: never mind. found it. i quite like that, heh?
18:30:07 <olsner> FireFly: have you?
18:30:15 <FireFly> nope
18:30:19 <olsner> me neither
18:30:21 <FireFly> maybe I should?
18:30:39 <olsner> well, you're not gonna keep it anyway, are you?
18:30:45 <FireFly> apparently fungot found their resolution
18:30:45 <fungot> FireFly: syntax-case enables the impossible. merely that it is
18:31:01 <FireFly> Probably not.
18:31:06 <boily> as the old joke go, my new year resolution is going to be 1920 × 1080.
18:31:21 <FireFly> Seems a bit low for 2014
18:31:26 <olsner> mine might be 3800x1800, now that there are laptops with that resolution
18:31:30 <boily> (other than that, get back to learning Japanese. but I won't say it's a resolution, as that would needlessly jinx it.)
18:31:34 <olsner> possibly ultra-hd, or just full-hd
18:32:59 <boily> huh. I can go as low as 640 × 480 on this machine.
18:33:15 <olsner> actually full-hd would be an upgrade for this laptop ... the current resolution is almost ridiculously low
18:33:35 <olsner> the 5" phone has higher resolution than the 12.5" laptop :(
18:35:10 <monotone> 解像度は変更できません (;_;)
18:39:09 <lifthrasiir> well, great, it's time to get rid of home-grown hgweb server due to frequent server overload.
18:39:40 <boily> monotone: どのデバイスは解像度が変更できませんか?
18:42:05 <monotone> boily: ただのつまらない冗談です。すみません
18:43:28 <boily> monotone: しょうがないなぁ…
18:45:25 <kmc> as the old saying goes, one time a train hit a zebra so hard that a person came out
18:45:30 <boily> monotone: それでも、お元気ですか?あなたに生きている場所に寒いですか?
18:45:56 <boily> kmc: humans are a crossbreed between zebras and trains?
18:46:16 <kmc> believe so
18:46:35 <int-e> regarding resolutions: when will we see the first 1080p smart watch?
18:46:38 <boily> that'd explain a lot of things...
18:46:51 <boily> ~metar LOII
18:46:52 <metasepia> --- Station not found!
18:46:54 <boily> ~metar LLII
18:46:55 <metasepia> --- Station not found!
18:46:58 <int-e> (I honestly don't see the point of display resolutions above 150dpi or so)
18:46:59 <boily> ah bordel.
18:47:25 <boily> ~metar LOWI
18:47:26 <metasepia> LOWI 311820Z 25003KT CAVOK M04/M07 Q1019 R08/19//70 NOSIG
18:48:15 <monotone> boily: まあ あったかいでもないですけど
18:48:22 <int-e> chilly.
18:49:29 <int-e> ~metar EDBM
18:49:30 <metasepia> --- Station not found!
18:50:11 <int-e> boring.
18:50:35 <int-e> ~metar EDDP
18:50:36 <metasepia> EDDP 311820Z 15008KT CAVOK 01/M00 Q1017 NOSIG
18:50:37 <monotone> ~metar KORF
18:50:38 <metasepia> KORF 311751Z 26007G14KT 230V290 10SM CLR 09/M02 A3017 RMK AO2 SLP217 T00891017 10094 20033 58016
18:50:48 <boily> monotone: ここは極低温度だよ
18:50:57 <boily> ~metar CYUL
18:50:57 <metasepia> CYUL 311800Z 04006KT 8SM -SN OVC033 M16/M19 A3006 RMK SC8 SLP181
18:51:28 <boily> ~metar CYQB
18:51:29 <metasepia> CYQB 311800Z 24007KT 3SM -SN OVC028 M19/M24 A3008 RMK SN5SC3 SLP196
18:51:37 <boily> yé... minus nineteen...
18:51:49 <olsner> hardly cryogenic
18:52:02 <int-e> ~metar HKJK
18:52:03 <metasepia> HKJK 311700Z 04010KT 9999 BKN023 22/14 Q1019 NOSIG
18:52:19 <olsner> here it's like +3 or something, it's silly
18:52:37 <boily> olsner: my feet beg to differ.
18:53:25 <olsner> if they're still begging they haven't been cryogenerated yet
18:53:48 <boily> cryogeneration hasn't begun yet. I still have two of them.
18:54:00 <int-e> and 10 toes?
18:54:30 <olsner> try going inside, it may be warmer
18:54:50 <boily> int-e: the regular SI toe configuration, I still have it.
18:54:59 <boily> olsner: I am inside. I'm stupidly barefoot.
18:55:06 <monotone> boily: 厚い靴下をはいた方がいいと思います (*‿*)
18:55:09 <olsner> that's stupid boily
18:56:36 <int-e> I was going to suggest making use of that great invention called boots ... but now it's redundant.
18:57:53 <boily> monotone has the comfiest solution.
18:58:41 <int-e> does it involve socks? or a warm bath?
18:58:50 <boily> monotone: やれやれ
18:58:52 <int-e> hmm. "hot bath" sounds better.
19:03:43 <boily> monotone: 靴下をはいている 僕の足はいま暖かいです (^ε^)
19:04:44 <monotone> boily: よかったですね
19:05:16 <boily> monotone: as the local proverb goes, «よかった en maudit».
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19:18:58 <FireFly> olsner: silly indeed
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19:23:01 <quintopia> spaceteam!
19:23:54 <quintopia> boily: what languages do you know?????????
19:24:33 <Bike> they're just writing french in hanzi
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19:24:44 <quintopia> oh lame
19:25:02 <boily> Bike: shun!
19:25:20 <quintopia> boily: spaceteam!
19:25:29 <boily> quintopia: spaceteam?
19:25:52 <olsner> spaceteam!?
19:26:01 <olsner> Bike: and kana
19:26:09 <quintopia> boily: you should play it. with your friends. asap.
19:26:24 <boily> quintopia: does it run on Linux and/or the Ouya?
19:26:37 <boily> quintopia: or, better, is it made of cardboard and acrylic?
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19:26:53 <quintopia> boily: android or ios
19:27:04 <boily> quintopia: I accept.
19:27:05 <quintopia> the iphone version is slightly more stable
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19:27:19 <boily> pfshaw. stability is for wimps.
19:28:08 <boily> oh, spaceteam. I didn't know it was called so.
19:29:00 <Bike> kana is just wannabe hanzi.
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19:29:38 <quintopia> boily: you have played or seen played?
19:31:23 * olsner gr och lagar lite mat
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19:32:06 * boily は楓棒でBikeに当たる *ボン*!
19:32:15 <boily> quintopia: seen.
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20:17:16 <boily> apparently, by default, OpenERP stores user passwords without any encryption whatsoever.
20:17:31 * boily has nausea
20:18:33 <oerjan> boily: erp.
20:18:59 <boily> oerjan: indeed.
20:20:49 <quintopia> aw poor boily
20:20:55 * quintopia gives boily a moonshine
20:21:06 <oerjan> we don't need to worry about hyperintelligent ais. our computer systems are so broken it only takes a normal ai to take them over.
20:22:37 <kmc> hyperintelligent ais523?
20:22:45 <oerjan> wait now. maybe the government is keeping our computers broken _on purpose_ just so we'll have an early warning about hostile ais before they become hyperintelligent.
20:23:07 <oerjan> it all makes sense now!
20:23:29 <oerjan> `? ais523
20:23:31 <HackEgo> Agent “Iä” Smith is an alien with a strange allergy to avian body covering, which he is trying to retroactively prevent from ever evolving. On the 3rd of March, he's lawful good.
20:23:50 <oerjan> alien, not ai. hth.
20:25:54 <oerjan> meanwhile, march 3 is when the main girl genius story line will resume. coincidence? also checking this made me discover the fill-in story updated on a tuesday!
20:27:48 * boily gulps quintopia's 'shine
20:28:02 <boily> oerjan: girl genius is still ongoing?
20:28:05 <oerjan> SHINE SHINE LIKE A STAR
20:28:31 <quintopia> boily: how do you feel?
20:28:52 <boily> quintopia: shined.
20:29:05 <oerjan> boily: um you mean in general, or over the just started hiatus?
20:29:18 <boily> oerjan: the general allure of it all.
20:29:51 <oerjan> boily: most definitely. you don't just end a story that wins hugos in 3 consecutive years...
20:30:42 <oerjan> i don't expect it to end until we get an explanation for the time travel segments seen previously, and there isn't currently any sign of that happening yet...
20:31:59 <mroman> happy new year
20:32:07 <mroman> to everyone who lives >3+ GMT
20:32:10 <int-e> also the whole gil/father mixup needs to be resolved
20:32:23 <boily> oerjan: time travel??? I think I'll have to get back on track eventually...
20:32:37 <boily> @localtime mroman
20:32:38 <lambdabot> Local time for mroman is Tue Dec 31 21:32:37 2013
20:32:41 <oerjan> int-e: not to mention agatha/mother...
20:33:05 <oerjan> boily: those were a _long_ time ago, mind you.
20:33:08 <mroman> @localtime boily
20:33:09 <lambdabot> Local time for boily is Tue, 31 Dec 2013 15:33:08 -0500
20:33:27 <boily> oerjan: I dropped it a long time ago too.
20:33:32 <oerjan> back when they had the first events on board castle wulfenbach
20:34:34 <int-e> time travel? the time freeze was bad enough, hmm. maybe I have to reread the thing from the beginning.
20:35:56 <oerjan> int-e: incidentally, the time travel segment implies that certain characters who are currently in trouble should get out of it.
20:36:36 <int-e> yay. "You have been selected as a winner for using Google services."
20:36:52 <boily> EVERYONE WINS!
20:36:56 <boily> (except Taneb)
20:37:06 <oerjan> int-e: by time travel, i mean the apparitions dupree told the baron about.
20:37:52 <oerjan> and iirc the baron correctly guessed that time travel was involved
20:38:13 <int-e> so ... re-reading it is.
20:38:20 <oerjan> heh
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20:39:07 <boily> by the way, where is Taneb?
20:39:42 <Taneb> Here
20:40:49 <boily> Tanelle!
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20:42:08 <FreeFull_> https://dpaste.de/uyLZ/raw Whyy
20:42:10 -!- FreeFull_ has changed nick to FreeFull.
20:42:59 <oerjan> FreeFull: you are under attack hth
20:43:41 <Taneb> bohily
20:43:50 <boily> FreeFull: oooooooooooooooh :D
20:44:21 <FreeFull> I want to know who is doing this and why
20:45:40 <int-e> funny. one of those is proxyscan.freenode.net
20:45:52 <fizzie> ATTACK
20:45:55 <FreeFull> https://dpaste.de/p7bb/raw Part two, same IPs
20:46:15 <fizzie> Maybe you have got yourself a "misconfigured UPS guy" as well.
20:47:47 <fizzie> proxyscan.siglost.com, pridelands.org, v22010127734464199.yourvserver.net, gilman.megworld.co.uk, proxyscan.freenode.net and hitchcock.freenode.net, apparently.
20:48:04 <lifthrasiir> 15.2 hours remaining before IOCCC 2013 entries cannot be released in 2013 (anywhere on earth).
20:48:12 <FreeFull> Oh, I don't think those are actual attacks then
20:51:13 <FreeFull> I should have thought to try reverse dns
20:51:31 <FreeFull> I wonder why my router has been disconnecting from the net though. Probably ISP stupidity
20:51:40 <int-e> right, just port scans. "SPI attack" does not even make sense, I think. (gooduckhoo suggest "Stateful Packet Inspection")
20:52:08 <fizzie> Perhaps it's supposed to vaguely translate to "attack detected by SPI".
20:52:20 <fizzie> As in, unexpected incoming connections.
20:52:59 <fizzie> Though in that case it'd be slightly unclear what "TCP attack" means, then.
20:54:06 <int-e> "See all those packets I've been dropping to keep you safe?"
20:54:43 <fizzie> Aw, my own "misconfigured UPS guy" has stopped. (Or at least is not active right now.)
20:54:46 <int-e> The Internet is a dangerous place.
20:56:01 <FreeFull> TCP attack could be something like unexpected SYNs
21:01:07 <fizzie> But that's what I was assuming "SPI attack" to be. Since it's vaguely related to connection state.
21:01:15 <oerjan> SNEAK attack (bitch)
21:01:40 <fizzie> "HTH attack" is what happens on #esoteric often.
21:02:31 <int-e> Followed by a TDNH defense.
21:04:00 <boily> 8 8888 8 8888888 8888888888 8 8888 8 .8. 8888888 8888888888 8888888 8888888888 .8. ,o888888o. 8 8888 ,88'
21:04:02 <boily> 8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .888. 8 8888 8 8888 .888. 8888 `88. 8 8888 ,88'
21:04:04 <boily> 8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 :88888. 8 8888 8 8888 :88888. ,8 8888 `8. 8 8888 ,88'
21:04:06 <boily> 8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 . `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 . `88888. 88 8888 8 8888 ,88'
21:04:08 <boily> 8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .8. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 .8. `88888. 88 8888 8 8888 ,88'
21:04:10 <boily> 8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .8`8. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 .8`8. `88888. 88 8888 8 8888 88'
21:04:12 <boily> 8 8888888888888 8 8888 8 8888888888888 .8' `8. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 .8' `8. `88888. 88 8888 8 888888<
21:04:15 <boily> 8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .8' `8. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 .8' `8. `88888.`8 8888 .8' 8 8888 `Y8.
21:04:16 <boily> 8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .888888888. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 .888888888. `88888. 8888 ,88' 8 8888 `Y8.
21:04:18 <boily> 8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .8' `8. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888.8' `8. `88888. `8888888P' 8 8888 `Y8.
21:04:39 <kmc> boily: c.c
21:04:40 <myndzi> c.c.c
21:04:40 <myndzi> c.c
21:04:49 <lifthrasiir> c.c
21:04:51 <lifthrasiir> c.c
21:04:52 <myndzi> c.c.c
21:04:52 <myndzi> c.c
21:05:11 <boily> kmc: hi hi hi ^^
21:05:12 <fizzie> ▌▌▜▘▌▌ ▄ ▟▖▟▖▄ ▗▖▌
21:05:12 <fizzie> ▛▌▐ ▛▌ ▄▌▐ ▐ ▄▌▌ ▙▘
21:05:12 <fizzie> ▘▘▝ ▘▘ ▀▘ ▘ ▘▀▘▝▘▘▘
21:05:17 <oerjan> i am not sure i approve of ASCII art that doesn't show correctly even when i make putty full screen.
21:05:18 <lifthrasiir> c.c
21:05:42 * kmc is willing to tolerate a bit of ASCII art spam in the Spirit of New Year's, but only a bit
21:05:43 <lifthrasiir> myndzi is not working, in spite of having much shorter nickname than mine
21:06:24 <kmc> probably it requires the whole block to be to the right of your nick
21:06:34 <kmc> hence the trigger string is " c.c"
21:06:34 <myndzi> c.c.c
21:06:34 <myndzi> c.c
21:06:36 <kmc> ka-bam
21:06:42 <fizzie> It sounds like one bit would not be enough for a that much ASCII art.
21:06:55 <boily> lifthrasiir: myndzi is a very strange bot.
21:07:11 <fizzie> If it just so happens thatc.cit works also inside words, it can't be " c.c" literally.
21:07:24 <fizzie> Hm, I guess tdnw.
21:08:08 <boily> ow. sil. tdnrh.
21:08:50 <kmc> hth, hand, stfu
21:09:17 <boily> kmc: nu.
21:09:18 <oerjan> i am not sure that's a gc.cood test
21:09:21 <fizzie> Talk to the HAND, 'cuz the HTH ain't listening.
21:09:33 <fizzie> How about if it's-|c.c|-like some non-word characters.
21:09:33 <myndzi> c.c.c
21:09:34 <myndzi> c.c
21:09:42 <kmc> \bc.c\b
21:10:02 <kmc> or you know \bc\.c\b but that looks less itself like a face
21:10:06 <boily> is that a multi-line multi-ocular O?
21:10:09 <fizzie> (Does the mIRC even do \b?)
21:10:14 <kmc> from now on when people tell me to stfu i will think of http://fluxlab.io/2013/12/06/stfu/
21:10:23 <kmc> boily: it's a multi-ocular c.c
21:10:24 <myndzi> c.c.c
21:10:25 <myndzi> c.c
21:10:52 <boily> there are some weird mutants roaming in this chännel...
21:11:29 <lifthrasiir> |c.c|
21:11:30 <myndzi> c.c.c
21:11:30 <myndzi> c.c
21:12:09 <boily> |c.c|
21:12:10 <myndzi> c.c.c
21:12:10 <myndzi> c.c
21:12:20 <boily> hah! mine triggered alignedly!
21:13:42 <kmc> boily: high-powered mutants never intended for mass production
21:17:17 <int-e> oh \o/
21:17:18 <myndzi> |
21:17:18 <myndzi> /|
21:17:51 <boily> |c.c|c.c|c.c|
21:18:00 <boily> c.c c.c c.c
21:18:01 <myndzi> c.c.c c.c.c c.c.c
21:18:01 <myndzi> c.c c.c c.c
21:18:10 <boily> | c.c c.c c.c
21:18:10 <myndzi> c.c.c c.c.c c.c.c
21:18:10 <myndzi> c.c c.c c.c
21:20:43 <Bike> the bar fucks it up on my end
21:22:24 <int-e> evil double width unicode character
21:26:30 <boily> 異端!
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21:32:41 <boily> nisstyre: nisstyrello. how are you by this End of Year?
21:39:12 <nisstyre> not bad
21:39:24 <nisstyre> I got "Compiling with Continuations" in the mail today
21:40:39 <kmc> now you're thinking with portals
21:41:26 <nisstyre> kmc: I was just playing Portal 2 actually
21:43:40 <int-e> good game.
21:46:57 <LinearInterpol> c.c
21:47:04 <boily> disappearing for the night.
21:47:09 <boily> Bonne Année à tous!
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21:47:18 <LinearInterpol> au revoir!
22:01:34 <fizzie> Ooo, the timezone of Finland just a 2014 is.
22:01:41 <fizzie> (It is 2014, right?)
22:02:17 <Taneb> fizzie, yes
22:02:21 <Taneb> You are now in the future
22:02:51 <fizzie> It smells pretty much like the past did.
22:08:30 <int-e> 51.5 minutes to go here, hmm
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22:25:16 <int-e> ~metar LOWI
22:25:42 <oerjan> metagone
22:26:45 <int-e> -4.3 ... ok. see you next year.
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23:01:38 <oerjan> ^celebrate
23:01:38 <fungot> \o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/
23:01:38 <myndzi> ¦ c.c.c | ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´ | c.c.c | `\o/´ ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c |
23:01:39 <myndzi> ´¸¨ c.c /| /| | | /´\ c.c /| | /| |/< c.c |\
23:01:39 <myndzi> (_|¯'¯|_) /´\
23:01:39 <myndzi> (_| |_)
23:07:32 <FireFly> Happy new year!
23:09:17 <mroman> @localtime FireFly
23:09:29 <lambdabot> Local time for FireFly is Wed, 01 Jan 2014 00:11:51 +0100
23:09:44 <mroman> Happy new year to you too
23:10:02 <mroman> \o/
23:10:02 <myndzi> |
23:10:03 <myndzi> >\
23:10:35 <Vorpal> Happy new year!
23:15:21 <Phantom_Hoover> fuck all of you from the future
23:18:10 <mroman> I can't possibly be from the future
23:18:22 <mroman> How can I be from the future, if I'm dead in the future?
23:19:21 <oerjan> `? future
23:19:23 <HackEgo> future? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
23:19:59 <oerjan> `run echo "We know nothing about the future." >wisdom/future
23:20:03 <HackEgo> No output.
23:20:53 <oerjan> `? an allosaurus
23:20:54 <HackEgo> an allosaurus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
23:21:23 <oerjan> hm wait it doesn't work that direction.
23:33:36 <mroman> `? allosaurus
23:33:38 <HackEgo> allosaurus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
23:33:47 <mroman> `? Vorpal
23:33:49 <HackEgo> Vorpal is really boring. Seriously, you have no idea.
23:34:28 <oerjan> `? lystrosaur
23:34:30 <HackEgo> The lystrosaurs were an ancient genus of evil reptiles who successfully took over the world in the early Triassic.
23:35:50 <int-e> Happy new year, too! \o/ \o/ c.c \o_
23:35:50 <myndzi> | | c.c.c |
23:35:50 <myndzi> |\ /< c.c |\
23:36:22 <Bike> happy new year's eve losers
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23:48:03 <int-e> ¯\(°​_o)/¯
23:48:09 <Vorpal> mroman, yeah because I almost never talk
23:48:14 <Vorpal> These days that is
23:56:12 <int-e> oh my, ocean in a bottle ... how could I forget?
23:56:35 <oerjan> DON'T DROP IT
23:58:00 <int-e> too late.
23:59:36 <oerjan> r.i.p. maldives
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