00:00:19 INVISIBLE HAND WITH RAISED MIDDLE FINGER 00:03:01 Phantom_Hoover: do you think there's a reason China is cracking down on Bitcoin, other than to preserve capital controls? 00:03:52 why would i know! capital controls seems like an adequate enough reason though 00:04:07 well then I think it's fair to say they are bringing a certain narrow kind of "freedom" to china 00:04:22 not political freedom certainly 00:05:09 wouldn't it be neat if the government came out with Bitcoin with Chinese Characteristics 00:05:10 oh, you were replying to that 00:05:48 which is yuan with pictures of circuit boards taped to them 00:07:11 http://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1t5fo1/to_the_omg_bitcoin_is_dead_people_jesus_christ/ce4uwjh 00:07:15 all according to keikaku 00:07:19 "This collaboration between the crowdsourcing website Quirky and industrial giant GE (GE, Fortune 500) wirelessly connects to your mobile device to track the number of eggs you have and tell you when they're going bad." $70 00:08:17 Phantom_Hoover: lol 00:08:32 kmc: is that a cite of fortune 500 or, what's going on there 00:09:16 it's a link to stock shit 00:09:51 oh. i was wondering if they expected name recognition for Quirky but not GE, or what 00:10:00 lol 00:11:26 -!- muskrat has joined. 00:12:25 -!- muskrat_ has joined. 00:13:53 -!- muskrat has quit (Disconnected by services). 00:14:04 -!- muskrat_ has changed nick to muskrat. 00:17:36 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Dogecoinwallet.jpg/800px-Dogecoinwallet.jpg oh, i see. 00:33:45 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:54:25 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 01:07:58 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 01:20:51 -!- augur has joined. 01:22:31 -!- augur_ has joined. 01:22:32 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:10:17 Bike: wow, much money, such coin 02:10:42 thank 02:11:00 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:11:16 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 02:13:27 elliott: guess who's back 02:14:23 the answer is http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/1tb9qa/haskell_for_all_lift_error_handling_with_lenslike/ce6ap5x 02:15:23 is this pro haskell? that's beaut 02:15:25 iful 02:28:19 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Argh). 02:31:11 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 02:32:57 -!- Bike has joined. 02:50:34 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 02:52:26 -!- Bike has joined. 02:58:35 -!- yorick has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:15:49 -!- ^v has quit (Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif). 03:24:17 well i managed to buy 75 bitcents after considerable amounts of banging my head against a technological wall 03:24:45 can you believe the only mobile browser that coinbase works in is opera mini? 03:24:47 wtf 03:24:57 their app doesn't even work 03:25:24 wouldn't that cost like four hundred dollars 03:25:36 just under 500 03:26:11 -!- LinearInterpol has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 03:27:09 i'm hoping i can start using btc the way i usually use paypal. the idea of taking payments for things in btc appeals to me somehow. 03:27:44 wait you bought $500 of bitcoins 03:27:52 in the middle of an ongoing market crash 03:28:22 Phantom_Hoover: the market's been somewhat stable for at least a day now. 03:28:55 sure it's a gamble, but it's better than the lottery 03:28:59 oh well in that case it's safe to start pouring cash into it! 03:29:23 robbing an IKEA also has better chances of success than the lottery 03:29:52 Phantom_Hoover: eh it's less than a week of work and i don't have many expenses right now. i'm in a position to gamble. 03:29:58 "stable for a day" 03:30:02 also you call a 20% fluctuation in price 'stable'? 03:30:21 Phantom_Hoover: that's fairly stable for btc :) 03:30:34 that's the joke 03:30:43 a veritable fusillade of facepalm 03:30:47 but no it hasn't been fluctuating that much 03:30:56 only 5% or so today 03:31:11 high: 0.774, low: 0.621 03:31:16 yeah that's more than five percent 03:31:40 you think you can get a variance from extrema? 03:31:46 it's less than twenty but i am a) eyeballing the figures and b) not spending cash based on them 03:32:18 it's been between 680 and 720 for 90% of the day 03:32:19 "The ICE dollar index DXY -0.12% , a measure of the U.S. unit against six other currencies, fell to 80.824 from 80.986 late Thursday, for a weekly loss of 0.6%." 03:32:22 this got into the news 03:33:23 Phantom_Hoover: do what you want. i don't gamble in casinos, but i could. btc gambling seemed like it'd be more fun :) 03:33:39 quintopia, it was stable enough on december 15; there was a crash on december 18 03:33:57 Phantom_Hoover: that crash predicated my purchase. 03:34:38 bloody hell, i can see why they call it the dunning-krugerrand 03:34:44 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:34:48 it looked like the china-ban-related crashing was done. so i bought. 03:35:31 rip ph 03:36:46 hi bike. do you think i'm crazy or do you think coinbase is crazy for working on so few browsers? 03:37:19 aiming for wider support than opera seems sensible enough 03:39:42 even in opera it only works jerkily and painfully 03:40:04 no idea how a company could fail so hard 04:01:03 so is there a "because" combinator? 04:07:02 -!- muskrat has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:14:54 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:19:26 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 04:21:04 -!- Bike has joined. 04:29:09 Do you know if there are format for instrument files to use with .MOD that have a transpose value built-in too? 04:52:49 i don't 04:53:46 wish there were enough of a bitcoin options market to compute implied volatility 04:53:55 that'd be neat 04:55:12 -!- mauke_ has joined. 04:55:13 -!- mauke has quit (Disconnected by services). 04:56:36 fungot: sing me a song 04:56:36 kmc: if that is deserved though). i don't care about its value; i care about anything 04:56:47 fungot: you would do anything for love but you won't do that? 04:56:48 kmc: eval ( begin ( task1) ( task2))) is ( 0 3) 1 04:57:06 -!- preflex has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 05:00:47 -!- mauke_ has changed nick to mauke. 05:09:25 -!- tswett has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 05:32:04 In this rotating temple (which, for some reason, is built right on top of an apartment???), one of the rooms contains a statue, having a description of two sentences. The first one was there before, and the second one I added today. Is it better now? "This is a large statue of something having a lot of eyes, mouths, tentacles, hands, claws, teeth, and stuff that nobody understands, all in the sideways and wrong order. Strangely enough, it appears 05:32:10 Did this message get cut off? 05:32:19 kmc: thing me a thong 05:32:22 Is the second sentence better than the first one? 05:32:23 strangely enough, it appears 05:32:25 þ 05:32:28 :þ 05:32:33 Strangely enough, it appears that even being turned 360 degrees, it is different than it was before; 720 degrees makes it the same, though." 05:33:15 lol 05:33:25 is this for you d&d campaign? 05:33:34 No, it is for ifMUD. 05:33:52 Although it could be used in D&D campaign too, perhaps. 05:34:08 oh a mud. that was going to be my second guess 05:34:59 But is it better now like this? 05:36:16 yes 05:37:08 even though the added sentence is pretty much nonsense 05:37:28 well maybe not 05:38:26 would it be equivalent to say "after rotating one full turn, it does not appear the same as before, but after two full turns, it does"? 05:38:49 quintopia: Yes, that is equivalent, it is what I meant. 05:39:50 so the thing changes as you rotate it. neat. 05:40:00 maybe i could build a statue like that 05:59:19 every time you read a LWN article and the first comment is spender railing about how everyone is an idiot, take a shot 06:15:20 LWN? 06:15:30 http://lwn.net/ 06:28:03 http://lwn.net/Articles/576785/ 06:29:14 yeah i was reminded of this game by http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/577432/4c0c4ca28678daa8/ 06:29:47 wow. 06:39:59 "It is already trivially circumvented via a single function usable by any other exploit, present in enlightenment:" 06:40:02 What's that about? 06:41:01 Oh 06:41:02 "Spender's code shows that it's actually easy to look for signs of fixes in the kernel image before trying any exploit, thus defeating the detection scheme. " 06:43:35 "enlightenment" is his framework for writing exploits 06:44:00 here i was thinking it was the window manager (not sarcasm) 06:45:11 lol 06:58:54 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 07:09:47 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:22:15 want to buy hugcoins 07:22:25 they're based on proof-of-hug 08:45:50 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 08:52:35 Do you have to prove that the hug was consensual? 09:06:41 trypꙮphobia 09:09:57 -!- Deewiant has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 09:11:17 Is logical implication ever used in programming? 09:11:32 It seems to always be the symmetric logical operators that get in 09:14:09 Prolog does apparently, which makes sense 09:14:19 slereah: → in many type systems is isomorphic to logical implication. 09:14:48 Namely, in all type systems that are isomorphic to constructive logic 09:15:00 How many are, though 09:15:36 I think Idris, Coq and Agda might have type systems like that 09:15:57 I don't know any of them! 09:17:50 -> in Haskell is isomorphic to logical implication. 09:29:04 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 09:33:51 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 09:36:05 -!- carado has joined. 09:42:44 I think Haskell's type system isn't fully turing complete without extensions 09:47:50 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 10:08:19 -!- oerjan has joined. 10:50:14 @tell quintopia so the thing changes as you rotate it. neat. <-- maybe zzo38 was inspired by fermion physics. 10:50:14 Consider it noted. 10:53:24 I think electrons are like that 10:56:48 yes, electrons are fermions. 10:56:59 also protons and neutrons. 11:00:58 Yeah 11:01:15 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 11:02:59 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 11:05:58 -!- Deewiant has joined. 11:10:38 -!- nooodl has joined. 12:00:51 -!- Slereahphone has joined. 12:16:14 -!- yorick has joined. 12:24:49 -!- Slereahphone has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 12:38:35 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 12:40:08 -!- augur_ has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 12:40:49 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 12:47:55 -!- augur has joined. 13:00:51 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 13:20:46 -!- Slereahphone has joined. 13:32:02 -!- AwfulProgrammer has quit. 13:32:21 "Woodcutter Simulator 2013 allows the player to control and operate an entire lumber mill. From clearing woods to the evacuation of the logs, the player has to undertake all arising tasks to complete numerous missions – from cutting trees for demanding customers to producing woodchips for heating purposes." 13:32:29 The whole sim game genre is kinda weird. 13:33:01 "Features: Work with the chainsaw in 1st-person-view" well I guess that sounds quite gamey. 13:33:37 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 13:37:18 -!- muskrat has joined. 14:00:32 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 14:02:51 fizzie: it's like gears of war, but the enemies are a little bit more...wooden 14:03:37 @messages 14:05:05 -!- conehead_ has joined. 14:07:19 -!- Slereahphone has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 14:08:21 -!- nooodl has joined. 14:12:52 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 14:18:05 -!- Slereahphone has joined. 14:27:17 -!- Slereahphone has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 14:38:36 -!- muskrat has quit (Quit: Leaving). 14:53:59 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 14:54:15 -!- jconn has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 14:54:22 -!- Slereah has quit. 14:54:36 -!- Slereah has joined. 15:08:25 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 15:10:44 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:12:40 -!- conehead_ has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com). 15:13:23 -!- conehead has changed nick to conehead_. 15:13:56 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 15:14:03 -!- conehead has joined. 15:15:35 -!- LinearInterpol has joined. 15:18:43 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 15:20:24 -!- Frooxius has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:20:56 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 15:22:33 -!- ais523 has joined. 15:23:36 sup 15:25:18 -!- jconn has joined. 15:39:10 -!- jconn has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 15:53:02 -!- hogeyui_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 15:55:43 -!- hogeyui_ has joined. 15:59:28 -!- Frooxius has joined. 16:01:53 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 16:20:00 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 16:24:27 -!- zzo38 has joined. 16:34:58 -!- tromp_ has joined. 16:39:34 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 17:14:10 'morning 17:14:26 fizzie: woodchips for heating purposes but not for mushroom-growing purposes? 17:14:34 fungot: do you grow on woodchips? 17:14:34 kmc: 34580840+0 records out of vectors, i guess that 17:15:47 'fternoon 17:15:59 fungot: do you grow mushrooms? 17:15:59 olsner: in the monad io. its type is provable in classical first order logic theory evaluator. and pronounce it " faulty". 17:18:43 some neighbor is sawing or grinding something... loudly :( 17:19:35 that used to happen to me a lot a while back, but it stopped 17:19:42 presumably they finished whatever it was they were building 17:20:35 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 17:45:07 -!- Halite has changed nick to HaliteTablet. 17:57:30 maybe they gave up and threw it into the ocean 17:57:38 hi Halite 18:00:18 -!- nooodl has joined. 18:26:16 are wood stoves bad 18:27:03 I hear you can buy wood stoves for poor people. 18:27:27 fungot: How do you grow mushrooms in the IO monad? 18:27:28 fizzie: if b clones the vlr. its at that point vatican was the ruling power, and it looks good 18:27:42 fungot: Okay, it sounds p. difficult. 18:27:42 fizzie: good then. as kate refuses to *edit* binary files just fine now with readelf. ( i was designing it in my face when a calendar item is due, other than sharing the monitor with a box, and does the winner get a cut. unless you stole it. 18:29:16 lol. 18:32:07 -!- Bike_ has joined. 18:33:37 -!- Bike has quit (Disconnected by services). 18:33:38 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 18:34:37 olsner: do you know anything about growing mushrooms in the monad io? thxplz 18:34:59 i'm particularly interested in 1up mushrooms 18:35:08 quintopia: I defer to fungot, the resident expert on IO-monadic mushroom growing 18:35:08 olsner: hi, seems you too are taking fnord to a fnord interrupt things, to go with 18:35:17 well mushroom growing is all about purity, avoiding contamination 18:35:40 kmc: i'm okay with unsafeMushrooms 18:36:29 im not :'( 18:36:40 anyway the usual result is that you get no mushrooms at all, only mold and bacteria 18:37:29 kmc: can i grow Maybe 1up mushrooms? 18:37:44 -!- Bike_ has joined. 18:37:49 a 1up mushroom is like a green A. muscaria 18:38:10 but there's no actual mushroom that looks like that 18:38:14 but amanita don't let you cheat death afaik 18:38:15 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 18:38:20 quite the opposite 18:38:26 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 18:38:34 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_phalloides is kinda green and it's one of the most poisonous mushrooms there is 18:39:10 maybe if i i grew them with the monad io they would be life-giving rather than -taking 18:39:30 i think you might need a comonad for that 18:40:12 ah 18:47:16 someone just exploded a glass in this cafe 18:47:25 like i got hit in the face by flying glass 18:48:02 :O 18:48:07 are you okay? 18:48:28 -!- atriq has joined. 18:48:35 yeah fine 18:48:38 hi Taneb 18:48:43 but it's not safe to walk in here 18:48:54 tanello 18:49:03 that sounds like a delicious chocolate bar 18:49:22 it was. but i ate it all 18:50:09 :O 18:54:23 -!- atriq has quit (Quit: Leaving). 18:54:25 Hi 18:55:21 -!- muskrat has joined. 18:59:23 -!- muskrat has left. 19:05:51 http://i.imgur.com/YZVtLW3.jpg i love rich people 19:09:23 thanks we love you too Bike 19:09:39 (this is another "proposal" by some VC nerd) 19:09:50 somebody pointed out that this would be a significant net increase in Republican senate seats 19:10:12 unclear if the proposers want that or just don't realize it 19:10:27 Bike: did you see http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/the_next_silicon_valley/2013/12/silicon_valley_s_invasion_of_san_francisco_not_quite_the_ayn_rand_nightmare.html 19:11:44 no, nice 19:11:48 "many of them don’t know who Cesar Chavez was" D: 19:12:28 "I am the spirit of César Chávez." "Then why do you look like César Romero?" "Because you don't know what César Chávez looks like." 19:12:58 clearly we need a new film like American Psycho 19:13:09 that fucking business card scene man, i crack up every time 19:13:31 i guess the modern version would be talking about how minimalist your website's design is 19:14:12 i really should watch that movie 19:17:10 good article though 19:18:51 how does cesar chavez relate to silicon valley? 19:21:59 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Quit: MindlessDrone). 19:23:35 well that paragraph is talking about techies moving into the Mission and being ignorant of the cultural history 19:28:53 * kmc lives 1 block from Cesar Chavez St. 19:30:53 -!- oerjan has joined. 19:31:29 i was going to say all the streets are named after him but i forgot if that was tre :V 19:35:33 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_named_after_Cesar_Chavez#Major_streets 19:38:30 wow, like twenty schools just in cali 19:42:32 meanwhile in florida http://newsone.com/2814127/florida-school-named-after-kkk-grand-wizard-gets-new-name/ 19:44:06 -!- preflex has joined. 19:44:33 preflex: remember shit perl is pretty awesome you can almost right as you speek 19:45:16 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 19:54:36 -!- tromp_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:55:08 -!- tromp_ has joined. 20:00:09 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 20:06:08 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 20:09:44 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1tcpb4/rsa_took_10m_from_nsa_to_make_backdoored_dual_ec/ 20:10:01 I thought it's been 'allegedly' backdoored, that the algorithm hasn't been proven to be backdoored? 20:10:25 i think that's right 20:10:30 Sgeo_: basically it has some constants in it that nobody knows where they come from 20:10:55 well more than that, researchers have demonstrated how those constants could have been chosen to include a backdoor 20:10:58 Yeah yeah, and it's been proven that they could have been chosen to serve as a public key 20:11:01 Of sorts 20:11:01 if the constants were constructed using a specific algorithm, it would generate a key at the same time that would backdoor the algorithm 20:11:02 it was proved to be "backdoored" whether intentionally or not in 2006 20:11:05 http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2013/09/the-many-flaws-of-dualecdrbg.html 20:11:10 and then RSA used it for no good reason whatsoever a few years later 20:11:10 or they might just be random, in which case no backdoor exits 20:11:17 and yeah this suspicion predates the snowden leaks by years 20:11:18 But hasn't been proven that this is actually the case 20:11:19 and then leaked NSA documents said they had compromised encryption standards 20:11:23 but -- yeah 20:11:25 and then it's news that the NSA paid RSA $10M 20:11:45 this might be a tiny little hint that dual Dual_EC_DRBG is backdoored <_< 20:11:48 s/dual // 20:11:59 also that Dual_EC_DRBG is just shitty and so there's no reason to use it if the govt isn't paying you to 20:15:23 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 20:16:00 and this is crypto, we should all know that "well maybe nobody knows the backdoor" is security through obscurity. 20:17:41 and if you have some suspicion that a company did something shitty and they deny it, you should probably just assume that they're lying to your face because they are full of shit and i hate everybody. 20:18:11 good application of hanlon's razor 20:18:25 hoover's razor 20:19:48 Oh, apparently the backdoor doesn't work if you have 31 bytes or less? 20:20:14 wait why does that matter 20:20:19 It doesn't 20:20:32 being able to predict an RNG output after just 31 bytes is a pretty strong backdoor 20:20:41 it's important that we microanalyze this to defend the NSA 20:21:39 what if it only works when you have exactly 32 bytes, no more and no fewer 20:22:12 Bike is right, there can be no nuance in this matter whatsoever 20:23:12 Phantom_Hoover is right, kill all humans 20:24:51 it's not a matter of nuance, it's a matter of the NSA being known to have crippled its own government's security for years with nobody being able to know about it, so why bother counting fucking bytes at this point 20:24:56 hug all humans 20:25:48 remember how RSA said dual_ec_drbg's slowness was good because it made attacks slower. that was funny 20:26:34 also yes, kill all humans, bike superiority 20:27:27 Bike: some crypto algorithms are intentionally designed to be slow, e.g. password hashing functions 20:27:42 but they tend to have scalable slowness for that purpose 20:28:23 http://lists.randombit.net/pipermail/cryptography/2013-September/005341.html 20:29:24 ha ha. 20:30:10 should have put more pounds of coke in there 20:31:23 "Most developers would probably use the faster symmetric alternatives, but perhaps a small number would prefer the added confidence of a provably-secure construction. Unfortunately, here is where NIST ran into their first problem with Dual_EC. Flaw #1: Dual-EC has no security proof." 20:31:39 "Let me spell this out as clearly as I can. In the course of proposing this complex and slow new PRG where the only damn reason you'd ever use the thing is for its security reduction, NIST forgot to provide one. This is like selling someone a Mercedes and forgetting to attach the hood ornament." 20:33:12 apparently i don't know enough about cars to get the simile except from context 20:34:01 Mercedes are bling-cars 20:34:21 sure you can drive them but that's not why you buy them 20:34:30 right 20:45:04 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 20:46:01 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 21:04:24 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 21:22:51 -!- Bike_ has joined. 22:05:46 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 22:25:14 "Former South Sudan Vice-President Riek Machar tells the BBC that rebel forces are under his control and have taken the key oil-producing Unity state." 22:25:17 great name 22:29:32 http://www.kufic.info/architecture/architecture.htm hell yes 22:30:48 how is this ordered, uzbekistan is before turkmenistan 22:31:17 * Bike bookmarks 22:31:19 descending sort by number of uzbeks 22:31:27 makes sense 22:31:44 oh, christ, look at all these books. bad site, i have a budget 22:33:58 -!- ais523 has quit. 22:53:28 -!- impomatic has joined. 23:14:38 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 23:17:08 -!- muskrat has joined. 23:17:45 Are there square currency units used for any purpose? 23:18:04 ? 23:18:08 like coins but square? 23:18:15 do you mean like square meters 23:20:33 Yes, like square meters and stuff like that 23:20:56 Let $ be the symbol for the currency unit. $ is money. $/$ (unitless) is a simple interest rate. $/$s (equivalent to hertz!?) is a compound interest rate, I think 23:20:57 they are used for bounties in Trigun. 23:21:37 er shouldn't an interest rate be in terms of time 23:21:45 why would that change with compounding 23:21:50 zzo38: the units on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks_(finance) might get pretty weird 23:21:55 Bike: How does that work? 23:22:02 sixty billion double dollars. 23:22:22 kmc, I may have forgotten quite what simple interest is 23:22:51 Let $ be the symbol for the currency unit. $ is money. $/$ (unitless) is a simple interest rate. $/$s (equivalent to hertz!?) is a compound interest rate, I think 23:22:57 everything's equivalent to hertz 23:23:01 roentgens, for instance 23:23:05 "famous for Confusion of Confusions, a book about stock markets" ha 23:23:23 er, becquerels# 23:23:48 Phantom_Hoover, whatever would describe a time machine accelerating is equivalent to hertz, too 23:28:35 Odd thing about be #642: I am more conservative with money when I expect an immediate reward to my purchase 23:28:50 `quote 642 23:28:55 642) well, i have to assume if i'm going to make any asses 23:30:41 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 23:31:32 I still do not understand, how you mean using for bounties, and that stuff? 23:32:14 -!- impomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 23:33:26 -!- polytone has changed nick to monotone. 23:33:50 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds).