< 1387324862 926886 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387324920 109917 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387325141 260909 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387325762 902856 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-95.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387327005 314473 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387327222 917281 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387327743 898085 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-95.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387327858 722623 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387328035 221658 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Eventually I noticed that the longer the machine had been powered down before I tried to boot, the more likely it was to boot correctly." OS programming is scary < 1387328042 409115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387328052 418764 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i didn't know vaurora had a twitter hells yea < 1387328073 975997 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387328106 825992 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I used the BIOS to dump the DRAM (memory) on the machine and noticed that each time I dumped the memory, more and more bits were zeroes instead of ones. Of course I knew intellectually that DRAM loses data when you turned the power off" oh god, what the fuck < 1387328316 450959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :her personal twitter is protected and I'm too shy to like apply for membership < 1387328372 256158 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily, i'm too unthinking to not apply for membersip. < 1387328376 58937 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ship < 1387328403 58498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should give more money to Ada Initiative < 1387328408 947470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you should all give money to OpenHatch: http://openhatch.org/donate/ < 1387328430 551761 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if she looks at my twitter she's just gonna see a buncha nonsense tho < 1387328473 176770 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, sketch of a penguin. that's hard to turn down < 1387328498 411582 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hmm, what's the "what the fuck" in that quote? < 1387328510 908701 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: that this was relevant to software < 1387328598 848995 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll drop a few bucks at openhatch once i have an address again. i could go for more stickers. i wonder if they're nice vinyl ones < 1387328800 228065 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, my system is spending 1% of (non-idle) cpu time in memchr < 1387328826 199444 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad i don't have an income again :V < 1387329307 480068 :Guest74908!~cow@202.146.228.10.static.centrin.net.id JOIN :#esoteric < 1387329318 551377 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387329343 159668 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387329346 682578 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've figured out how to do single line iterations < 1387329391 311312 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a line contains, say, $ in front of a variable, build a for loop with it < 1387329431 317622 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :start the variable at 0, increment it by 1 every iteration... the only thing you're missing is a stop condition < 1387329433 789511 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387329444 262577 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about < 1387329446 116132 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for instance < 1387329453 875652 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387329458 991459 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387329461 323070 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vector[$n] += 5 < 1387329464 474067 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns into < 1387329495 948237 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for(n=0; ????; n++) { vector[n] += 5; } < 1387329498 508086 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this novel syntax for some system yu're coming up with because i already hate it < 1387329515 437970 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387329532 344431 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to figure out the shortest possible syntax for iterations over vectors < 1387329542 73957 :Guest74908!~cow@202.146.228.10.static.centrin.net.id QUIT : < 1387329560 414720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're on the path to reinventing APL. or SIMD. < 1387329568 920100 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes please skip to that part < 1387329585 72716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"or the List monad" < 1387329590 130416 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not familiar with APL. SIMD is something else. < 1387329614 265593 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (+5) [3,1,18] < 1387329615 293589 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [8,6,23] < 1387329621 678319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you'll eventually end up with "vector += 5" if you go down this route really < 1387329622 659241 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly inspired by logical programming tbh < 1387329632 760889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then if you get up to "vec1[$n] += vec2[$n]", etc... < 1387329634 677378 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott : that's the idea < 1387329634 866369 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now replace "map" with the Prince symbol and you've got APL < 1387329654 356632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no, APL/J/etc. would just use + directly < 1387329658 251261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kinda the point of array programming < 1387329659 258242 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually "vec1[$n] += vec2[$n]" is a good example < 1387329665 559846 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: stfu nerd < 1387329668 460778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1 2 3 + 4 5 6 < 1387329668 768646 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 5 7 9 < 1387329676 154802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) vec1 =: 1 2 3 < 1387329676 515677 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: |ok < 1387329678 862310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) vec2 =: 4 5 6 < 1387329679 244248 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: |ok < 1387329681 326090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) vec1 + vec2 < 1387329681 715057 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 5 7 9 < 1387329694 683502 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the infinite five operator < 1387329696 736097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) vec1 .= vec1 + vec2 < 1387329697 148499 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: |domain error < 1387329697 337278 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: | vec1 .=vec1+vec2 < 1387329701 547360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387329706 459043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what < 1387329713 710690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) vec1 =: vec1 + vec2 < 1387329714 82631 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: |ok < 1387329715 852417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :) vec1 < 1387329716 211333 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 5 7 9 < 1387329719 970672 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come you did .= instead of =:... right. < 1387329740 928508 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should translate to for(n=0; n The first problem in experimental mathematics is apparently not overfilling LaTeX boxes... <-- ah memories < 1387345788 959487 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387346097 888291 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387347409 858437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Overfull \hbox (0.76785pt too wide)! < 1387349341 615263 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL: Hackage has "dbus-core", "dbus" and "DBus", all different. And all having modules named DBus.*. (AFAICT, "dbus" is a direct sequel of "dbus-core", a pure-Haskell DBus protocol implementation, while "DBus" is a FFI-based binding on the native DBus libraries.) < 1387349356 635087 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387349380 391365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1387349539 11246 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387349717 975933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of them have a different API, of course. < 1387349740 178986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :always plural interfaces < 1387349746 291743 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though the one in dbus is a reasonable, simplified descendant of dbus-core.) < 1387349807 876937 :Lemuriano!~robbie@c-98-231-50-109.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387349845 281560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : i have been paid to write perl, haskell, c, c++, java, assembly, shell, make, rust, javascript, prolly some others < 1387349850 825434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot PHP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1387349895 141940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also python and ruby jeez < 1387349896 652751 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you been paid to specifically write in each of those things, or has it been the case of "write with whatever you want as long as it makes some sort of sense"? < 1387349922 243120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of each < 1387349970 644853 :Lemuriano!~robbie@c-98-231-50-109.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1387349995 69548 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does changing your XMonad config while at work count as being paid to write Haskell? < 1387350017 693137 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did two summers of undergrad research, the first summer i wrote everything in perl, then I learned Haskell so I used it for everything the second summer < 1387350022 272747 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope this was considered an improvement < 1387350062 312452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sure < 1387350070 519786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, a point, then. < 1387350095 386611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure i also used ghci for some misc data munging somewhere along the way < 1387350111 463060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started writing an improved object file diff tool in Haskell for Ksplice but never finished it < 1387350206 171188 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had fungot join the IRC channel of our research group, does that count as being paid to write Funge-98? (Perhaps not quite.) < 1387350206 481495 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah i know, but lament and fizzie are around. or e-mail me. < 1387350234 862442 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you even have an email account? < 1387350235 171362 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: or you could put it more formally designated as ieee 1003 and the international reach that only we are positioned to provide! < 1387350284 788819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :To quote oerjan, OKAY. < 1387350374 643056 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run addquote ' OKAY' # ThereIsNoSuchThingAsNotability < 1387350380 284382 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1146) OKAY < 1387350534 557545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1387350596 365880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is in that generation that prefers twitter to email < 1387350596 812296 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the fnord returns some error code, after all, she is!"" at http://paste.lisp.org/ display/ fnord: < 1387350880 470980 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://sprunge.us/LNdZ < 1387351073 207029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1387351279 617288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no I disregarded LOWER CASE. < 1387351358 41140 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387351381 467142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHA* < 1387351400 195048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, hth, hand < 1387351421 923125 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387351464 228949 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :o'kay this was much more interest-ing http://sprunge.us/XBHK < 1387351603 368040 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, hth is legal again? < 1387351627 430907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not recall some of these. < 1387351642 3582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is legal < 1387351644 959116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: no, i'm a filthy law breaker hth < 1387351647 675121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :long live hth < 1387351660 233989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: plz disable the hth disabler thx < 1387351663 959435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i miss your hths < 1387351690 682734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: careful, elliott might ban you < 1387351710 55178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not really, he's getting mellow with age) < 1387351720 832613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: imo he doesn't even go on irc anymore < 1387351797 626384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen elliott < 1387351802 2598 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-12-18 01:28:02: isn't matlab curly brace? or at least close to it < 1387351814 302184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1387351817 376571 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for shachaf is Tue Dec 17 23:30:14 2013 < 1387351820 406063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he'll say something in the future < 1387351823 127518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't mean anything < 1387351851 526863 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time lambdabot < 1387351851 715557 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live on the internet, do you expect me to have a local time? < 1387351852 358743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just after banning you, probably < 1387351895 762762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although how he'll do it with matlab i don't know < 1387351915 353418 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the beauty of matlab. < 1387352007 666787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's MATLAB not matlab you heathens. < 1387352021 404840 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like saying "god" instead of "GOD". < 1387352028 588741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :YHWH whatever < 1387352033 332301 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sounds like HTH.) < 1387352034 617117 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do that all the time. < 1387352045 418643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YMMV < 1387352077 396877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, is YHWH short for Yes, He Would Help? How appropriate. < 1387352146 147239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given the temperament of the old testament god, perhaps "appropriate" is not quite the right word, I don't think he's very keen on helping in general. < 1387352323 834864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, hell wants humans < 1387352651 815246 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387352722 48311 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1387352776 577930 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1387353256 888835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, someone's actually using the while (i --> 0) spelling. I thought that was a myth. < 1387353361 356889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tale told to frighten small children < 1387353369 479074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is using it? < 1387353375 35002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone on ##c. < 1387353392 417882 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : is there a way to declare "i" inside while() in this example?: int i = 8; while (i --> 0) printf("%d ", i); < 1387353426 725389 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure they are either joking or being joked at < 1387353437 717606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna go with "no" < 1387353469 397663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for (int i = 8; i --> 0;) < 1387353480 926922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, well, that's not acceptable for some reason. < 1387353497 265569 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very imrotant that we use a while < 1387353518 456192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://sprunge.us/IjNY < 1387353537 882337 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Best channel?) < 1387353559 135336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does /wrist mean... oh < 1387353600 562820 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use while (i--) pretty often < 1387353612 426010 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Yes, but do you use The Arrow? < 1387353637 626492 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :only in java (because you have to) < 1387353667 315821 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it mean < 1387353670 906296 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the best, because after something like i = 42; while (i --> 0) ... your not-familiar-with-C readers will be tempted to do i = 0; while (i --> 42) ... too. < 1387353683 9981 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :flipping them off? < 1387353693 231185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I didn't get the /wrist thing.) < 1387353763 822078 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/N1QFcWY.jpg meanwhile, in the uk < 1387353856 901242 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's some kind of a not-real thing, right? Right? Please? < 1387353872 115659 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you suggesting a tabloid may be inaccurate < 1387353875 961539 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's libel fucker < 1387353912 127397 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you mean "f***er". < 1387353941 219961 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too tired and emotional to censor myself, [insinuates that you are a paedophile] < 1387353943 570179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s ok, just don't use the c**v word < 1387353963 960430 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fizzie: also, it can't be real. his shirt says "soccer".) < 1387353974 811883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ooh good point < 1387354006 317618 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "flogged 'em to the junkies" bit at the very least reads like a parody. < 1387354063 693633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boy fails to blend into reality, takes it out on cat < 1387354140 592009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, in the email: [[ This is an official advice from the FBI foreign remittance/telegraphic dept. it has come to our notice that bank of Nigeria has released $8m to BANK OF AMERICA in your name as the beneficiary, The bank Nigeria knowing fully well that they do not have enough facilities to effect this payment from Nigeria to your account, They used what we know as a “secret ... < 1387354146 593528 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... diplomatic transit payment” (S.T.D.P) to pay this fund through wire transfer, but this means of transfer can not reflect to your account as this was wrong method of transfer. ]] < 1387354164 664151 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spike timing dependent plasticity < 1387354174 116747 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those wacky Nigerians, they keep using those STDPs even though they're obviously the wrong method of transfer. < 1387354194 398109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I need to send a "Diplomatic Immunity Seal Of Transfer(DIST)" or something. < 1387354205 39460 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must be legit, all those acronyms. < 1387354221 545164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sealed highly important transfer < 1387354250 838651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(How come a "secret diplomatic transit payment" is a STDP and not a SDTP, anyway?) < 1387354283 504130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's probably one of those english/french ordering compromises < 1387354311 699235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :transfer secrét diplomatique du paye < 1387354323 438269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Meanwhile, i have decided to scan and send to you a copy of my identity as evidence, so you can be aware of whom you are dealing with and i have also informed that entire FBI Department Offices in each states to back out regarding this case because i have decided to handle this situation personally to ensure that i deal with you accordingly if you fail to provide the necessary requirement ... < 1387354324 30772 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i hope the fbi actually has a "telegraphic dept" < 1387354329 446426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... which we requested from you." < 1387354338 826057 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie you aren't even in the united states are you < 1387354347 157213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no. < 1387354357 606849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he's scanned a copy of his identity, so. < 1387354358 730996 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's the finnish bureau of investigation < 1387354361 44107 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice of the FBI to protect the whole world instead of americans < 1387354364 168200 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just americans* < 1387354385 635563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they can't even keep finnish spam inside finland, you think they manage to keep fbi spam outside it? < 1387354393 292736 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've gotten email before from this same guy, he's "FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III". < 1387354421 992348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously, most of the spam i see these days is finnish. although i guess that's after nvg's filter.) < 1387354439 400621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our spam is too potent to be contained by your puny filters. < 1387354470 477620 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Subject: Are You Sure Rev. Thomas Is Your Next of Kin!!!" No!!! I'm not sure at all!!! < 1387354755 62985 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387354872 21227 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387356323 280153 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaah Namco High has been released < 1387356476 133299 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://fioraaeterna.tumblr.com/post/70376905191/ < 1387356521 169000 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :No spoilers, please! < 1387356577 628831 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoilers: it keeps happening < 1387356599 513218 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoiler davesprite is davesprite < 1387356890 7645 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387356986 101606 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What was the name of the guy from X-Files? < 1387357139 400178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: crimbo < 1387357225 282785 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, Anti-bravoman is pretty cool < 1387357640 495422 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1387357739 107464 :kmc_!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387357812 213808 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387357814 872490 :kmc_!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :kmc < 1387357854 713817 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387357855 457487 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pogozqnqbtwnqlci QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387357855 457616 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uauifryqeazkoygw QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387357855 677740 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387357856 1634 :rntz!~rntz@eos.sp.cs.cmu.edu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387357928 612150 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387357928 798712 :rntz!~rntz@eos.sp.cs.cmu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387357928 798842 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pogozqnqbtwnqlci JOIN :#esoteric < 1387357928 798914 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uauifryqeazkoygw JOIN :#esoteric < 1387357928 798985 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1387357956 729594 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387358180 17143 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387358180 521269 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pogozqnqbtwnqlci QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387358180 707768 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uauifryqeazkoygw QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387358180 894290 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387358181 94515 :rntz!~rntz@eos.sp.cs.cmu.edu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387358219 644448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure which guy FreeFull meant. < 1387358238 494952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mulder, maybe. That's close-ish to Mueller. < 1387358322 301033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mꙮller < 1387358332 499782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh irc, where else can you walk into a room and find a motionless duplicate of yourself < 1387358338 420618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the socially acceptable response is to murder them < 1387358365 744098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are some netwurk games like that. < 1387358390 381706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly the duplicates should argue they're the real ones more often < 1387358504 433518 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387358504 656204 :rntz!~rntz@eos.sp.cs.cmu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387358504 656332 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pogozqnqbtwnqlci JOIN :#esoteric < 1387358504 656403 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uauifryqeazkoygw JOIN :#esoteric < 1387358504 656474 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1387358700 655406 :impomatic!~digital_w@36.104.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As soon oerjan disconnects I'm going to grab his nick and argue I'm the one who should survive. < 1387358843 457890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i am asking for that. < 1387360694 132908 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear god I've found a cameo < 1387360834 458185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as it wasn't a camel < 1387360955 216159 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a camembert. < 1387360981 419175 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I reached AN ending < 1387361011 490063 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Camelopard" is kind of a silly name for a giraffe. < 1387361027 122495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this one of those choose your own camel books < 1387361055 218525 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it's a dating sim about video game characters < 1387361189 755082 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387361298 712607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :chraming < 1387361408 989459 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got a good ending with the ship from Galaga < 1387361514 666419 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "good ending"? < 1387361576 271356 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone might argue that any ending is a good ending, viz. that you don't have to keep playing. < 1387361582 242393 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1387361978 394001 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!SENT_START I DON'T THINK ANYONE COULD BUY AND TODAY BUT THINGS CHANGE WHEN PEOPLE DIE !SENT_END < 1387362082 721402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think fizzie is revealing himself as a bot < 1387362147 284775 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!SENT_START I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE INSINUATING THERE I AM MADE OF SOFT HUMAN FLESH !SENT_END < 1387362178 969554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1387362947 981972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/efBH those wacky university students, right? < 1387363504 297430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that will be ex-university student < 1387363637 223755 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also that "Page 4" in there is spurious.) < 1387363741 882774 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387364172 133516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1387364972 893105 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387365205 894285 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387367745 935356 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1387367766 860166 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387368747 52626 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1387368774 5182 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387369084 39069 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1387369101 880261 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387371528 375617 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387371539 803066 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387371549 265453 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :good moily < 1387371622 973140 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like now would be a very good time to buy btc, but it seems like so much effort, cuz i know there's no easy way < 1387371858 628181 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good quintorning! < 1387371943 872790 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387372039 494550 :Hanswurst!~hans@212.152.173.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387372065 647492 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Hanswurst < 1387372070 542821 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08Hanswurst: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02irc.dal.net.) < 1387372075 445887 :Hanswurst!~hans@212.152.173.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1387372084 624535 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: there seems to be a few Canadian sites for investing in BTC. < 1387372115 135153 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do they allow you to pay electronically? < 1387372186 767239 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like so, but the acronyms are colliding with my uncaffeinated brain, so I'm missing many details. < 1387372704 125504 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1387372717 910399 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: should I add in the # cömment to the `addquote you made 6 hours ago? < 1387372737 513538 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: don't worry. 12 oz of tea are brewing. < 1387372762 34489 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387372992 341908 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It did not end up in the quote, so I guess not. I don't know. Is there a law on these things? < 1387373103 493847 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: verdict? < 1387373103 741040 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://www.call-with-current-continuation.org/ eggs/ search.scm. i mean is < 1387373116 745222 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I mean, your opinion on the matter? < 1387373117 74334 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: fnord sez the thermometer now interesting rather than solved problems." at http://paste.lisp.org/ display/ fnord < 1387373145 503653 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you bot says you should mind thermometers insted of the problem. so no comment it is. < 1387373163 212461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's fair. < 1387373913 332526 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: (I very subtly and discreetly added you to the PDF cocoonspirators.) < 1387373952 373626 :Hanswurst!~hans@212.152.173.179 PART :#esoteric < 1387374073 25298 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: (same thing.) < 1387374084 258704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a very discreet process, disregarding the automatic email alerts. < 1387374112 167208 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :muah ah ah. < 1387374229 984269 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am 12 and what is this wisdom repo < 1387374327 105458 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 12? it is the repo to the Source of the PDF. < 1387374368 12310 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what pdf. what is it for < 1387374394 245809 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the PDF in the /topic ↑ < 1387374472 149176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other wisdom is there than the wisdom of #esoteric, really? < 1387374522 53535 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey JOIN :#esoteric < 1387374656 399127 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387374665 996193 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't know what twelves quintopia is, so I'm going to assume he's a herd of zebras. < 1387374861 252033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was like a time of day. Like, "I'm totally middays", and so on. < 1387375176 35784 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387375583 36726 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387375589 795171 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387375714 6084 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :small follow-up on the amplituhedron → http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/12/a-quantum-revolution-against-feynman-diagrams/ < 1387375732 912670 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387376010 923508 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn33-215.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387376249 571881 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this pdf is too big to read < 1387376266 620370 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i wanted to add a wisdom but i can't backtick on my phone < 1387376608 51435 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: can you copy and paste on your phone? < 1387376648 927835 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ````````es quintopia < 1387376655 731570 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :jconn: 96{a. < 1387376656 97260 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ` < 1387376662 930538 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you want more? < 1387376665 855339 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :jconn: 60$96{a. < 1387376666 242263 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` < 1387376698 208061 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to maintain, debug, analyze, refactor and otherwise understand J? < 1387376722 487558 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: imo, no < 1387376730 700576 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really useful for large programs < 1387376735 435212 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some people disagree < 1387376836 89057 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :) (0j1+i.9)#96{a. NB. all sizes, in case you can only copy and paste full words < 1387376836 487705 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ` `` ``` ```` ````` `````` ``````` ```````` < 1387376947 969636 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval iterate ('`':) "`" < 1387376950 29503 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :["`","``","```","````","`````","``````","```````","````````","`````````","``````````","```````````","````````````","`````````````","``````````````","```````````````","````````````````","`````````````````","``````````````````","```````````````````","````````````````````","`````````````````````","``````````````````````","```````````````````````","````````````````````````","`````````````````````````","``````````````````````````","```` < 1387377079 146006 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval concat (iterate ('`':) " ") < 1387377079 822695 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" ` `` ``` ```` ````` `````` ``````` ```````` ````````` `````````` ``````````` ```````````` ````````````` `````````````` ``````````````` ```````````````` ````````````````` `````````````````` ``````````````````` ```````````````````` ````````````````````` `````````````````````` ``````````````````````` ```````````````````````` ````````````````````````` `````````````````````````` ``````````````````````````` ```````````````````````````` < 1387378536 881487 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387378840 290043 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1387379315 888364 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387379497 13906 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387381626 187792 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387381932 975164 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387382525 866156 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387383381 960412 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any reference implementation to https://github.com/trevp/axolotl/wiki ? < 1387383397 793429 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387383712 926501 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387383989 475152 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387384015 968167 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387384136 45885 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387384287 923869 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387384490 19640 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387384510 277704 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387384515 597001 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387384974 933515 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387385138 642674 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-19.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387385176 684689 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-19.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1387385176 926475 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387385435 373802 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-207.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387385509 697110 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the ticks guys < 1387385562 85643 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn PHP is Worse Is Better with strong lock-in effects for the web ecosystem. < 1387385567 480610 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1387387782 183976 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn PHP is the most static typed and mathematically proven to be the best programming language ever. < 1387387786 816478 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1387387807 564362 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that you knew than. < 1387387923 58108 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387388110 32533 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387388392 154799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/php < 1387388395 485867 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387388499 927270 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :("PHP" == 0), of course. < 1387388560 919572 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1387388574 257642 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? PHP < 1387388576 99062 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1387388580 52872 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? php < 1387388581 741055 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :php? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1387388586 463960 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn PHP is Worse Is Better with strong lock-in effects for the web ecosystem. < 1387388591 159441 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1387388594 728018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1387388608 974028 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/PHP < 1387388610 330141 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdom/PHP': No such file or directory < 1387388617 339976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are y'all putting in these wisdom entries < 1387388631 852529 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there was another php entry that you deleted that was already there < 1387388638 154795 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you are the worst deleter person ever < 1387388641 458213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both bad < 1387388647 382879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should both not be in wisdom/ < 1387388665 795380 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but what about the third one you deleted. should it be. < 1387388670 632301 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1387388671 706452 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1387388704 87694 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also since when are you the final arbiter of what can be in wisdom < 1387388750 511834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1387388944 346030 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387389111 877539 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and there is a wardom on PHP. < 1387389404 9267 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387389406 295278 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387389406 768108 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pogozqnqbtwnqlci QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387389406 970938 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uauifryqeazkoygw QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387389407 177133 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387389407 379277 :rntz!~rntz@eos.sp.cs.cmu.edu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387389509 592198 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387389602 26404 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387389825 424944 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-207.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387390380 889080 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387390381 93876 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387390381 94009 :rntz!~rntz@eos.sp.cs.cmu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387390381 94081 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pogozqnqbtwnqlci JOIN :#esoteric < 1387390381 94150 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uauifryqeazkoygw JOIN :#esoteric < 1387390381 94219 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1387390989 533285 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I agree with shachaf the 3rd one was not wisdom. < 1387391032 595150 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: remind me what the third one was again so i don't have to reload the pdf < 1387391105 639418 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the one right after your one < 1387391136 768395 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: that one sucked. i'm talking about the one that was in there originally. i.e. yesterday. < 1387391148 565813 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387391150 491781 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1387391154 256457 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? php < 1387391155 844058 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :php? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1387391159 744485 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? PHP < 1387391161 595649 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1387391162 439633 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk? < 1387391165 408395 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387391233 502057 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like hyperTERRIBLE processor < 1387391293 356480 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387391304 439643 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a PHP entry? < 1387391307 448610 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: it's gone. shachaf deleted it. look it up in the PDF if you want to see it. < 1387391309 477252 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :it and the links < 1387391319 769998 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the wisdom one. right < 1387391343 473665 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“ \item[PHP] is preferred by 9 out of 10 idiots, and past elliott. Ask your GP today! $[$Website redacted$]$” < 1387391362 254223 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems pretty meh. < 1387391371 437123 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN R/BITCOIN http://imgur.com/h9TXUbY < 1387391444 974000 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: PHP is preferred by 9 out of 10 idiots, and past elliott. Ask your GP today! [Website redacted] < 1387391468 85385 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: too slow < 1387391492 951090 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ty < 1387391522 303131 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: by the way, do you have a github account? (asked with an evil grin :D) < 1387391547 615572 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yeah, github.com/sheganinans < 1387391551 503986 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yours? < 1387391558 621023 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387391603 516721 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i was trying to add was intended to be actual wisdom, not humor. based on an article: https://medium.com/on-coding/6a9748f2268c < 1387391607 549482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mean yet another PHP entry before the two that both of you added. < 1387391608 706585 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i just added some stuff really recently. just random snippets i thought were barely tolerable to release < 1387391642 211206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"PHP is preferred by 9 out of 10 idiots, and past elliott. Ask your GP today! [Website redacted]" < 1387391651 117289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we're better off without any of them. < 1387391656 94878 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: you should now be in the knowledge of my account, and the Source to the PDF. < 1387391680 132278 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why don't you just go through and delete everything you don't like, and send some rain to a few parades while you're at it < 1387391695 963070 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pbflist < 1387391697 526031 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :pbflist: shachaf Sgeo quintopia ion < 1387391726 147010 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387391726 348139 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do i have to wait for github's eventual consistency model for me to see it? < 1387391742 544693 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: or some other service? < 1387391780 766842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Huh? < 1387391783 552102 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i'm not seeing any new ones < 1387391812 918029 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i swear i saw one < 1387391840 58310 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ah, i sees you < 1387392288 263926 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-184-18.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387392494 806132 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387392879 480216 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-5.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387392927 307175 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387392946 816588 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387393083 550769 :muskrat_!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-119.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387393083 752585 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-5.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387393087 575070 :muskrat_!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-119.psoas.suomi.net NICK :muskrat < 1387393571 411521 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387393992 100386 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387394109 588864 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387394300 110515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1387394375 947571 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387394535 145231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : it seems like now would be a very good time to buy [...] <-- the ancient sign of a bubble close to bursting... < 1387394660 341896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: should I add in the # cömment to the `addquote you made 6 hours ago? <-- not unless you add all my previous quotes/wisdom-affecting sed commands hth < 1387394824 597613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh bitcoin is crashing again? < 1387395065 664712 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they put a suicide hotline in r/bitcoin < 1387395094 712170 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387395095 651358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i allowed to laugh < 1387395117 477265 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you acknowledge that anyone actually killing themselves would be horrible < 1387395123 490064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1387395220 272852 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a temporary ban on "memes, price posts, and emotional posts" which is clear for mockery < 1387395276 164446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the first time this has happened < 1387395299 571397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm no suicide prevention expert but "it's just money" seems like a shitty and privileged thing to say, in general < 1387395338 557863 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but on the other hand most people on r/bitcoin are themselves shitty and privileged < 1387395354 291085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have this hunch that the idea of bitcoin working is based on the same kind of economy that didn't foresee the still ongoing financial crisis. < 1387395355 311557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe so < 1387395362 60002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*economic theory < 1387395368 761601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you elaborate? < 1387395391 658580 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, if i had any influence on rbitcoin i'd try to come up with something better to say, fo sho < 1387395407 512856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hunches don't have elaborations. < 1387395412 745566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: okay < 1387395415 212395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a little. < 1387395418 724880 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OKAY. < 1387395419 599518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about elaborate hunches < 1387395423 517148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also yes that < 1387395431 775943 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hunched-over elaborations < 1387395474 289796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :first of all, the only intrinsic stabilization of bitcoin's value is on the supply side. which is better than having none at all i guess. < 1387395509 558884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it only guarantees a _maximal_ value, not a minimum one... < 1387395565 981196 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387395568 280007 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you worth any bitcoin? < 1387395568 486315 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: perhaps that's irrational. " snow crash", " helping others", " < 1387395604 538891 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harken to the Bot! Follow the Path of Crashing Snowy Bitcoins, and Helping Others! < 1387395621 527799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything else is based on trust ... and without a supporting institution like a government, or a strong moral code that everyone follows, trust cannot survive in bad times. < 1387395644 430700 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see fungot is a libertarian < 1387395644 652367 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if you make significant changes. < 1387395645 958844 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "helping others" < 1387395690 682692 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: “I don't see any problem with that.” < 1387395730 946007 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2013/msg00235.html fuck yeaaaaaah < 1387395897 291555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm reading the paper now http://www.tau.ac.il/~tromer/papers/acoustic-20131218.pdf < 1387395909 594244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm such side channel attacks essentially mean that encryption code _must_ be branch free, no? < 1387395919 241572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless this is even subtler < 1387395934 222566 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when do branches break encryption? < 1387395939 651053 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387395968 840528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the problem is that it's really hard to do public-key operations efficiently without data-dependent control flow or memory access < 1387396016 715753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: by having the cpu do different things internally depending on what the data is, which can have measurable effects such as timing or this sound thing... < 1387396019 206243 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think the basic idea is that the attacker can use side channel information like sound to determine which branch sme code is on < 1387396032 29608 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, oerjan said it forwards and i said it backwards < 1387396038 668648 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some day you will meet? < 1387396039 991304 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1) the bubble has burst/is bursting, hence my statement and 2) i see no reason why it won't rebound < 1387396042 551700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't actually read the paper but is assuming that's how such a thing would work < 1387396080 121586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh well < 1387396237 488382 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, Bike: so, you can guess what's happening, but you can't perfectly reconstruct the original data, righ? < 1387396252 760193 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, Bike: and meeting IRL is always a Good Thing®. < 1387396282 382730 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION meets boily IRL in a crowded bus dressed as a hobo < 1387396282 972892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, but if you can do chosen plaintext attacks, you can add more and more information until you have the key... < 1387396354 891407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I remember the '04 presentation that paper mentions. < 1387396359 385569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, this attack involves sending many PGP-encrypted emails which are crafted to reveal bits of the private key through the side channel < 1387396373 251007 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "p. great" they've extended it to do actual key extraction. < 1387396392 269882 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As in, remember reading about it, not attending it.) < 1387396408 767998 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you're >1900 km away by car. we need to find a simpler way to irlmeet. and why would you want to dress crowded buses as hoboes? < 1387396422 79880 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oic. tdh. < 1387396438 61013 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the bus isn't dressed as a hobo. it's just dangling a modifier < 1387396463 398179 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and there is no simpler way for me to stalk you sorry < 1387396962 310126 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtu.be/9pzm1lQX0qU < 1387396980 345385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I like how it has Genesis 27:5 in the references. :) < 1387397005 893047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's what that cite was :) < 1387397016 692169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Audio eavesdropping on human conversations is a common practice, first published several millenia ago [Gen]." < 1387397018 305170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no author listed though < 1387397045 676397 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gen? < 1387397049 27575 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: eh? < 1387397057 160938 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, Genesis. < 1387397060 891716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[Gen 27:5 KJV] 5 And Rebekah heard when Isaac spake to Esau his son. And Esau went to the field to hunt [for] venison, [and] to bring [it]." < 1387397070 920606 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: An Andy Warhol homage. < 1387397075 455886 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey, i remember that. < 1387397080 756637 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esau was kind of a motherfucker, iirc < 1387397087 760474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't they all < 1387398021 441232 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387398329 276488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I see a flamewar about the wisdom system in my backscroll highlighting me three times? < 1387398407 265768 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, as you already know, php < 1387398448 766872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep '?' bin/* < 1387398451 253748 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/?: else echo "$1? ¯\(°​_o)/¯"; exit 1; \ bin/¿:? "$@" | rev | tac \ bin/؟:? "$@" | rev \ bin/anonlog: grep -P -i -- "$1" ????-??-??.txt | shuf -n 1| sed "s=<[^>]*> ==" \ bin/anonlog: file=$(shuf -en 1 ????-??-??.txt) \ bin/aseen:done < <(ls -r /var/irclogs/_esoteric/????-??-??.txt) \ bin/bienvenido:if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$ < 1387398458 808934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh < 1387398461 964425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep '?' bin/* | paste < 1387398464 193350 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god < 1387398468 91114 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.31992 < 1387398497 889236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if it were not for the other-language welcomes I would just remove the thing < 1387398612 928361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :remove what < 1387398631 457915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wisdom database < 1387398647 793757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fiend! < 1387398654 132535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1387398659 993572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? php < 1387398662 7259 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP is Worse Is Better with strong lock-in effects for the web ecosystem. < 1387398664 37101 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wants t destroy all we hold dear < 1387398687 19361 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :destroying america's morals < 1387398687 858137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but your pinging was due to a wisdom entry that already _had_ been removed! < 1387398696 686105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so removing it won't help QED < 1387398740 651857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/php < 1387398743 778502 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1387398746 183217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1387398746 394227 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1387399091 12905 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shoos elliott away from the Precious Wisdom DB < 1387399110 466460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't tempt me to increase the drasticity of my measures. < 1387399133 242945 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a mapole, and I know how to use it. the Wisdom will Stand! < 1387399183 684847 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :q: what is a mapole < 1387399185 898344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"now I have removed the entire channel" < 1387399199 130305 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1387399200 959083 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. < 1387399206 20058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1387399211 591859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I still need this to number my irssi windows right. < 1387399234 535606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's why I /part without closing the window. < 1387399279 371219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/set autoclose_windows off < 1387399385 787845 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-119.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387399524 969003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoin crash is front page on news.bbc.co.uk < 1387399616 168730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it really a full crash? isn't BTC much higher than before still? < 1387399735 856225 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when before? < 1387399788 783069 :microt!~caustic@c-67-169-99-96.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387399794 958583 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387399799 950273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :before it started rising recently < 1387399806 267191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was at $200 or something? < 1387399812 717689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe $100 < 1387399838 497652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really have a precise opinion on what the word "crash" means < 1387399897 125597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess like 5x increase in value from before it went crazy (ok, it's always crazy) seems like still a pretty big rise even if it went crazier in the interim to me < 1387399965 675607 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD < 1387400072 460735 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a normal currency a 50% drop in value within two weeks would be a crash ... < 1387400098 627587 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow I don't feel that way about bitcoins. < 1387400116 336248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I don't think "crash" implies that all value since time immemorial is wiped out < 1387400173 952038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: obviously, people expect BTC to be much more volatile than most things people call currencies :) < 1387400180 70007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a sudden and significant drop in value < 1387400203 295819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, mtgox might not be the best charts to look at given their issues unless that got resolved, they hover consistently above other exchanges because of them < 1387400578 217576 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/alexwinter/deep-web-the-untold-story-of-bitcoin-and-the-silk well, ok. < 1387400711 203614 :S1!~S1_chatzi@pD9FCA5BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387400819 501463 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn33-215.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387400857 677231 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "crimbo" really a UK slang term for "christmas" < 1387400875 273698 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether anybody is crazy enough to trade futures for bitcoins. < 1387400900 855 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck future < 1387400900 566794 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :future definition: that is to be; '''specifically'''. < 1387400907 420067 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck crimbo < 1387400907 835099 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1387400936 179363 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A lot of what's going on out there is scary stuff!" ... boring. < 1387400947 852804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes < 1387401051 884189 :evalj!~jeval@dsl51B63C5B.pool.t-online.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387401058 603272 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An unexpected exception has occurred. Please contact our Help Desk and include any errors reported on this page. java.lang.NullPointerException" this is a web application. < 1387401061 751610 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "deep web" is not even their own phrase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Web < 1387401067 183288 :S1!~S1_chatzi@pD9FCA5BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PART :#esoteric < 1387401070 118502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of people write webapps in Java < 1387401102 565801 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i'm just kind of surprised it gave me a backtrce, i suppose. < 1387401174 150150 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like NPEs. they offer a great occasion to be zen, drink a cuppa, and reflect on the Purpose of Life. < 1387401270 864913 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : /me reads the wikipédia article on futures contracts. < 1387401274 503205 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads the wikipédia article on futures contracts. < 1387401276 457562 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :says I. < 1387401290 391382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bóilý < 1387401308 738448 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ķḿĉ. < 1387401361 568452 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am disgusted by the possibility and formalisation of selling intangible financial assets. < 1387401431 256637 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is just miiiiildly annoying since i could get money frm this form < 1387401437 322790 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hey if you sign the contract and you loose money, its your fault. doesnt matter what is being sold. < 1387401443 898674 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: then uh, don't take too close a look at anything remotely moneoy-related < 1387401474 291056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't money itself an "intangible financial asset" < 1387401477 377744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and what exactly is a dollar? < 1387401483 122428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't some gold any more < 1387401488 411706 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: that I have no problem with. it's just the sleazyness of all that stuff. < 1387401494 786513 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: futures contracts are not exactly money printing machines. < 1387401510 468105 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: lol, the federal reserve is a million times sleazier < 1387401513 642876 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't understand finance. I am terrified by anything more complex than a simple savings account. < 1387401518 901748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly many sleazy things have been done with derivatives, yeah, but rejecting the whole concept outright? < 1387401521 896148 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I meant, intangibler. < 1387401526 764345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you also consider insurance to be inherently sleazy? < 1387401530 583907 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: something I have in my pocket. < 1387401542 760526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :futures and options aren't just for speculators, they're purchesd by large "productive" companies as insurance < 1387401553 47178 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking christ this isn't even my fault < 1387401554 550678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mcdonalds buys potato futures so that they're less exposed to fluctuations in price < 1387401560 616995 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes, but I have a dental plan, so I make an exception for that. < 1387401563 883955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what about in your bank account? < 1387401568 711898 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my face is bleeding. god < 1387401572 859872 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: exactly < 1387401602 58574 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY AM I SO PUT UPON, O GOD IN HEAVEN < 1387401616 91002 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387401620 276096 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: those are dollars in somebody else pocket. there are pocketeers out there who hold everybody's money, as there are plumbers, teachers, managers... < 1387401623 515927 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wat? < 1387401644 599157 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oops < 1387401648 325520 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wat? < 1387401659 825530 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wat? < 1387401679 878997 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how many millilitres of blood per hour are you loosing? < 1387401681 969543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you will probably be disappointed if you ask your bank to show the vault in which the physical coins for your bank account balance are stored < 1387401686 363740 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: which wat? < 1387401689 362670 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are we all loosing < 1387401695 88464 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: look, i feel you have been fed a story about futures without actually understanding the math behind it. you even admitted yourself < 1387401700 264252 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the uck is a litre < 1387401701 501616 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know. I prefer my fiction. it's more fun :D < 1387401708 805673 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use liters you damn furriner < 1387401729 159258 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: I skimmed the wikipédia article, so I really don't understand what's happening. proper documentation is in order. < 1387401733 94031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :never let the facts get in the way of a good pitchfork mob < 1387401746 220768 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: at first i was saying wat to Bike, but accidentally said you, then i read your statement after his and said wat, but this time to yo < 1387401761 77705 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ikr? < 1387401768 367541 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: furriner? < 1387401769 281696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you pay some amount now and you get some quantity of a good n months in the future < 1387401777 818265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pretty straightforward < 1387401786 265546 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh. if that's the case, no problem with that. < 1387401800 733799 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: lol, i cant speel todai < 1387401801 93156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can sell that contract in the meantime, in which case whoever buys it gets the good < 1387401826 412786 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so you can make a profit by selling the contract? < 1387401837 946040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are good at it, yes < 1387401845 60709 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: kmc said it very well, there is no "evil NWO magic" to it < 1387401860 134342 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: I am disappoint. < 1387401869 425082 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fascinating. < 1387401892 597893 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: not to say that there have been plenty of conspiracies, look at watergate, the gulf of tonkin, and operation notrhwoods :P < 1387401897 792791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also take a loss of course < 1387401903 139132 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :precisely < 1387401922 895416 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: thats what i meant by saying they arent money printing machines, unlike the federal reserve < 1387401935 906183 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seeeeeeeee... < 1387401958 131757 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even literally printing money has its purposes. < 1387401975 508632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the thing is that nobody knows exactly what the price of buying potatoes "on the spot" will be in 6 months, so the market price of a futures contract will vary as estimates of that future price change < 1387401980 995509 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://i.imgur.com/PtXdfsj.png (frontpaging on reddit) < 1387401988 287026 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8v5tskgKu1rpj06qo1_1280.jpg i'm very rady for this < 1387402008 564617 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, its called counterfeit or some people even shave coins < 1387402021 244788 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there's an Underworld music video like that but filmed from a train. it rules < 1387402035 384820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hereby ban libertarianism. < 1387402036 999761 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is a futures contract public? if so, wouldn't that change what the future price of the asset will be? < 1387402037 200039 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, except it's flipped instead of water, probably, but it makes it look like water < 1387402041 878271 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that is actually why coins these days have those lines running around their edges, it makes it really easy to see if a coin has been shaved < 1387402047 895601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: they are often publicly traded yes < 1387402048 761649 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wanna. < 1387402049 894630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hm that looks like it might be from trondheim? < 1387402056 841599 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that is indeed the case. < 1387402060 613723 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanna what < 1387402093 517731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the video. < 1387402101 554740 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387402140 379781 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: most establishments don't think to reject a coin that's missing those lines, though, if it looks worn < 1387402162 297097 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :banks might, but not many other places where the money-handlers are typically teenagers < 1387402162 937917 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: anyway why would it affect the spot price? < 1387402166 962950 :evalj!~jeval@dsl51B63C5B.pool.t-online.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387402171 696182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm is there a way to see the normal reddit frontpage without logging out < 1387402173 119005 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: lol, sure. that and its really not all that profitable to do. unless they are gold coins. < 1387402193 304638 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it won't, but then you can influence the market so that you can make someone else gain or lose money. < 1387402193 528452 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: in which case, many teenagers won't believe they're legal tender < 1387402198 802366 :evalj!~jeval@dsl51B63C5B.pool.t-online.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387402206 344993 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: (unless I'm completely mistaken.) < 1387402228 358069 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://www.reddit.com/r/all/ < 1387402230 202940 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: XD < 1387402258 38957 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how can you make someone else gain or lose money if you all have access to the same information and can take the same actions? < 1387402264 471535 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, most counterfeiting can be gotten away with if you avoid exchanging it with someone that could possibly think to check it < 1387402265 298074 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387402267 746109 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: well, they technechally arent "legal" anymore, but anyone who know barely anything will accept them < 1387402273 790552 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ah. point. < 1387402274 674197 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpCmYXwCHZY < 1387402279 689590 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-44-91.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387402282 58064 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: > teenagers < 1387402282 261862 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1387402288 174020 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thike. < 1387402304 718852 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful burnnnnnout~ < 1387402312 258414 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: lol, saw a video of a guy trying to sell a 1Oz gold coing for $50. the man was even in front of a cash4gold place. < 1387402318 360958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: in practice people do come up with all kinds of market manipulation schemes, in all kinds of markets, some of which are illegal < 1387402320 535707 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, my mistake about the source < 1387402320 723663 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you can still be lucky. but usually one of those assumptions turns out to be false < 1387402322 354537 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :high traffic hours in grocery stores checkout lines are the best times and places to use an almost-legit bill, since a hurried kid isn't likely to check your paper < 1387402350 182558 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: lol, yeah. but it has to feel right to be enough to pass. cotton and all. < 1387402352 549627 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_maker < 1387402361 393628 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: most fascinating. < 1387402367 927996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about market makers? what does that have to do with manipulation? < 1387402370 363369 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: right, but it isn't difficult to repurpose a lower-value bill < 1387402377 479816 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there, another one I like → http://vimeo.com/68546202 < 1387402394 170220 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's from some kind of short film called Shinkansen and oh i see you're perfectly capable of reading video descriptions. < 1387402399 53300 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: you are completely right. < 1387402414 589989 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's just an example of an asymmetry. market makers have more options than normal traders. (and more obligations) < 1387402424 550885 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: let's build a printing press < 1387402427 237976 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: oh man, this brings back memories of places like totse.. < 1387402452 663936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh, you are using the term "market maker" to describe the regulatory status of registered broker-dealers and such, rather than just the trading strategy of market making < 1387402455 676172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1387402466 46520 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: never done it myself, but its amazing how much of this info is available freely on the internet < 1387402477 746392 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you're the easiest to blame^H^H^H^H^Hstart that sort of thing with < 1387402519 793726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you are allowed to pursue a market-making strategy without any special status as a market participant < 1387402530 302932 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: I am Canadian. we'd have to print vinyl money. < 1387402538 98632 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387402547 38474 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go finish up xmas shopping. < 1387402549 676661 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Canadian coins are vinyl? < 1387402556 536928 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: banknotes. < 1387402561 28982 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they even have short tracks on them < 1387402568 731069 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never knew! < 1387402572 246687 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wishes that loonies were made of vinyl :D < 1387402581 421310 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ha ha ha! < 1387402582 27706 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bits of "O Canada" and also Bjork songs < 1387402586 799704 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yup, and even some countries have embedded transparent parts. so its even more difficult to re-purpose lower valued bills < 1387402618 296859 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :our bills have transparent sections, with pictures of Her Majesty. < 1387402623 273015 :evalj!~jeval@dsl51B63C5B.pool.t-online.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387402627 486555 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: POULET DE NOËL! < 1387402629 154397 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not here in the states.. you have to take time to check identifying marks like metallic strips, watermarks, etc.. they aren't glaringly obvious like they should be < 1387402631 492120 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387402639 629235 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: right, that is exactly what i was getting at. i though canada had them as well < 1387402683 107157 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: well, soon enough it will be all bitcoins. lol < 1387402695 973671 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387402706 263628 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly analog currencies < 1387402714 995896 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387402920 232407 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387403009 145872 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: I refuse to accept any currency besides impromptu song & dance numbers < 1387403143 630051 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: hilarious TTG stories are also acceptable < 1387403268 635512 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: well there is this one story that this guy on irc, where he told me that he would only take payment in currency that was less fungable than most of the currency that i had to offer, so then I decided to make a horrible TTG imitation of a story < 1387403289 129449 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1387403293 388514 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hilarious" was clearly specified < 1387403309 171177 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn, i guess its to the guillotine with me.. < 1387403357 167475 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: TTG? < 1387403556 634872 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tabletop game < 1387403571 226356 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ty < 1387404283 136870 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fungible currency is one that can go up in smoke? *wonders* < 1387404313 923404 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: advice on fungibility < 1387404314 234265 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i'm sooooooooo close to a bus. neths 1.8.03 also adds fluffy bunnies for remote users. < 1387404328 731890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if that's a pun he doesn't get < 1387404358 128380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungible just means the units are interchangeable... one dollar is as good as another < 1387404457 701033 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it has nothing to do with mushrooms. boring. < 1387404473 518208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know of any smokable mushrooms < 1387404488 373125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how unambitious < 1387404490 137284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_ might < 1387404499 878721 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mushrooms are not smokable? < 1387404532 563554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you can try < 1387404537 878221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think anything good will happen < 1387404539 718182 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you're attacking the wrong end of the association chain < 1387404569 198004 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. kmc is. < 1387404612 173752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the meat club at my school had an event advertised as "smoke anything up to the size of a small turkey" < 1387404637 572477 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the funny thing supposed to be the implication of #drugz or the fact that there was a club for meat < 1387404639 818093 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quoth the Internet, "You can also smoke dried mushrooms. It's a bit milder than eating them or making tea, but you need to use more mushrooms." < 1387404717 720108 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: psilocybin-containing mushrooms? < 1387404733 698417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange < 1387404746 619496 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. when you smoke something psychoactive is it an aerosol or what < 1387404787 74138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats me < 1387404796 99148 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, or vapors < 1387404815 902234 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all my knowledge here is from chemical weapons, so uh < 1387404862 36444 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sarin isn't a gas at human-livable temperatures and pressures. it's aerosolized in weapon form (unless you're aum shinrikyo) < 1387404953 119564 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 'sarin gas' is rather a misnomer. just a fact to keep in mind for parties. < 1387404975 80564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did aum do < 1387404991 644225 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen claims that you can smoke the top layer of an Amanita muscaria cap and it will be psychoactive. < 1387405003 822140 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they made plastic bags filled with sarin (liquid) and then jabbed them < 1387405059 611650 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But people mostly agree that smoking psilocybin-containing mushrooms will just make you cough. < 1387405217 7356 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should ask the #drugz people at school if i can make a can of THC like a can of spray paint, i'm sure they'll be thrilled < 1387405359 883391 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think I've heard about spray cannabis before somewhere < 1387405368 159459 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have no idea whatsoever about whatever the fuck other chemicals are in various Gymnopilus species. < 1387405409 738745 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387405469 698822 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amanita muscaria doesn't have psylocybin, and I know it does get used as a hallucinogen. I don't know about smoking it thugh < 1387405476 7600 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also if I wanted to try A. muscaria, I'd cook it, not smoke it. Ibotenic acid is a flavor enhancer (like MSG) and lots of people say A. muscaria is one of the most delicious wild mushrooms there is. < 1387405511 77169 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mushrooms that have psylocybin in them taste rather horrible < 1387405519 526871 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am aware of this. < 1387405546 263575 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could probably feed A. muscaria to a reindeer and drink the piss < 1387405602 2296 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? I was under the impression that cooking did most of the same desired conversion to muscimol and with much tastier results. < 1387405612 768488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1387405616 815659 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, reindeer are not a common backyard pet in my area. < 1387405647 583038 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1387405648 247790 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/12/18/2122226/scientists-extract-rsa-key-from-gnupg-using-sound-of-cpu?utm_source=butt&utm_medium=butt < 1387405655 911750 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know what kind of computers the Luna probes used? < 1387405768 702757 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :christ, nasa's page doesn't even specify what agency they were under < 1387405789 389375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: they don't always < 1387405793 650972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :taste horrible I mean < 1387406046 31361 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, varies by species + personal taste. some people even think Gymnopilus species are tasty (which may be due to variance in bitterness receptors. Many mushrooms in the genus Gymnopilus contain psilocybin but also some other stuff.) < 1387406186 108156 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Gymnopiluses are usually described as intensely bitter, which was my opinion of the non-psilocybin-containing G. ventricosus that I found and made dye from. It smelled pretty good though.) < 1387406227 197470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had some P. galindoi sclerotia and they tasted... not like food, but definitely not "horrible" < 1387406269 709815 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taxonomy note: P. galindoi is now declared synonymous with P. mexicana. < 1387406308 411275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of like eating wax with a slight, unusual "crisp" taste reminiscent of mineral water or that time I ate some raw saffron < 1387406313 106820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to describe < 1387406321 601029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_: ah < 1387406331 973389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you synonymous with P. mexicana < 1387406332 198968 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: let's do it from the server < 1387406351 889324 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you edible? < 1387406352 119058 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: all things has a price?) < 1387406355 111416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1387406393 335933 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387406444 62465 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though who the fuck knows which species those really were anyway) < 1387406490 649283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Also, reindeer are not a common backyard pet in my area. <--- yet another reason to move to finland < 1387406529 318830 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1387406548 206371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all we have here are cats, snails, and hippies < 1387406581 607594 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387406657 802541 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387406665 567287 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have hippies in the back yard? < 1387406690 896321 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have themselves < 1387406694 985752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also neighbors < 1387406735 188218 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :roe deer may be hunted from the start of may to middle of june, because they're less radioactive in the summer < 1387406824 747790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kch.zf.jcu.cz/vyzkum/publikace/separaty/Mushroom%20radioactivity%202012.pdf < 1387406853 163032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this agrees with you, say they are radioactive in the fall mushroom season < 1387406887 692620 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is fungus in Chernobyl that uses radioactivity as a source of energy < 1387407077 195273 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A History of APL in the USSR", yeah i'm fucked < 1387407125 687390 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool how there's like no central repository of ISBN publisher identifiers < 1387407158 719473 :Taneb_!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io JOIN :#esoteric < 1387407168 808609 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387407180 638725 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, nevermind, it exists, as a printed book < 1387407181 746316 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckers < 1387407184 466178 :Taneb_!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io NICK :Taneb < 1387407226 709494 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the ebook only costs fifteen hundred euros! < 1387407365 788909 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387407405 80103 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=130647.130656 < 1387407426 677000 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387407433 399729 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387407480 45685 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i was actually looking for was a russian-language book that doesn't exist anywhere on the english-language web, apparently < 1387407532 185990 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smalfxoftyajehey PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh, so not the same? < 1387407855 85294 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1387408129 381297 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387408168 769693 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387409260 125691 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387409865 134066 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387410499 755569 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387410565 744713 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387410738 278868 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-143.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1387411064 419617 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric