< 1387152020 336503 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i give up < 1387152024 87094 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The door was actualyl rusted shut < 1387152028 207334 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually too < 1387152057 292170 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: No. (Well, maybe it is; I haven't tried. But that isn't the reason.) < 1387152105 466527 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: he said kjugobe doesn't WANT it opened, not that it can't be opened. < 1387152105 694461 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason I don't want it open is that if whoever has the key is asked to open the door, due to whatever is happening, it may easily interfere with the schedules of this ship (a merchant ship) arriving and departing at certain areas. < 1387152139 316649 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: who would have guessed that. no one. < 1387152157 603554 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Maybe if you read it, someone might have guessed? < 1387152195 117819 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure no one else would have guessed on the basis of me reading < 1387152195 918384 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the reason has nothing to do with the door itself (other than the fact that it is locked and I don't have the key). < 1387152237 144828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I have a way to get in anyways, despite teleportation not being allowed into and out of the cell. < 1387152248 766206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have this rope and sanding block I can use in there too. < 1387152368 92223 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The prisoner's name is Shadowsteel, I think. I have almost completely broken his concentration, I think. < 1387152464 130818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways if you can read the entire story and still don't understand, then maybe you aren't good enough at this game? < 1387152778 901197 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387153066 99615 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387153553 97584 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387153635 164948 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh cold burn from the zzoster < 1387153645 748829 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1387154114 393610 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: What does that mean? < 1387154278 716465 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: never mind < 1387154431 788460 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387154992 863008 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :[li]|Gaming < 1387155115 820469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/seen < 1387155117 257774 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#! /usr/bin/env perl \ ($n,$e)=split /\s+/, join(" ",@ARGV); $n=~s/ *$//; $c="ls -r /var/irclogs/_esoteric/????-??-??.txt"; $c.=" | head -n 30" unless $e eq "ever"; @f=split /\s+/, `$c`; for $f (@f) { open F,"<$f"; @l=grep(/^..:..:..: <$n>/i,); close F; if (@l) { $b=$f; $b=~s#.*/(.*?).txt#$1#; print "$b $l[-1]"; exit 1; } } print $e eq "ever < 1387155270 473305 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1387155682 568094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should co(cartesian closed) be called cocartesian coclosed or coclosed cocartesian < 1387155690 5972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the important questions" < 1387155713 660467 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dual of a cartesian closed space < 1387155738 108059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help what's a cartesian closed space < 1387155749 707530 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :category whatever < 1387155750 817738 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerd < 1387155799 907914 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :open cocartesian < 1387156548 633538 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387156715 922474 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387156901 780422 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387157199 922758 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PART :#esoteric < 1387157753 263470 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387158619 911255 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387158926 837553 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387159079 13982 :[li]|Gaming!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387159627 361455 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: https://github.com/int-e/zeckendorf now deals with trailing zeros and has truncating subtraction for zeckendorf numbers (e.g. [] - [1] = []) < 1387159687 589883 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay zeckendorf < 1387160075 818845 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :good dorf < 1387160080 626421 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :up there with haus and ganon < 1387160141 327971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we talk about dorps instead < 1387160146 159384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like nieuw dorp < 1387160527 474899 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the only dorp, except for a south african musical group based in london < 1387160559 521722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess there's no oud dorp < 1387160579 461499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :several nieuw dorps but which one is the nieuwest < 1387160695 109935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that isn't built yet < 1387160746 289784 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://np.reddit.com/r/Physics/comments/1svri5/ive_solved_the_theory_of_everything_try_and_prove/ce1pd2n < 1387160758 629673 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual fuck is this. < 1387160761 703975 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: does NegaZeckendorf just use -1,-2,-3 etc. < 1387160786 469459 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol, you're oko right < 1387160790 457 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the title it looks like a stellar example of fractured ceramics < 1387160795 322736 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: nope. < 1387160802 123718 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it appears to be garbage, LinearInterpol < 1387160808 955213 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gravity (which doesn't actually exist) is n=0" < 1387160813 918595 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :u fokin wot < 1387160814 297072 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 1 -1 2 -3 5 -8 13 etc; the signs alternate. (or, more easily, you use the fibonacci numbers with negative indices, F_{-1},F_{-2},...) < 1387160819 14796 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol, that's precisely the response i'd expect from oko, see < 1387160832 359708 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :check my host, I don't know who oko is. :P < 1387160869 52290 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMMMM < 1387160882 390658 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd put nothing past him/you < 1387160891 89894 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that would have been my second guess < 1387160894 733644 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i trustirth him a long time ago < 1387160916 855259 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know who the hell "oko" is. < 1387160920 995347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :[Just (), Nothing] >>= repeat | But I see you on the other side? | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1387160942 279838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: LinearInterpol doesn't know who you are! < 1387160952 350033 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1387160973 208934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [Just (), Nothing] >>= repeat < 1387160974 299119 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Jus... < 1387160989 641273 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" I don't think I've ever eaten one" you've never eaten an avocado? you should they're awesome < 1387160991 961080 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17 is beyond our reach < 1387161027 135988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : the actual fuck is this. <-- standard 5.5 f crank, tin covered < 1387161028 728624 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what oklofok said < 1387161046 987891 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: f is for? < 1387161054 75232 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, why are you pretending to be LinearInterpol pretending to not be you < 1387161083 217423 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'm actually oklofok. < 1387161085 364661 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obv < 1387161093 669823 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEN WHO WAS PHONE < 1387161110 455438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: feet, duh < 1387161112 431774 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes. < 1387161124 484407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cranks always use imperial, being mainly us engineers) < 1387161130 184855 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok was also phone < 1387161179 257081 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw imperial units. < 1387161192 155492 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: why are you now pretending to be not oklofok who is pretending to be oklofok < 1387161194 883667 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokokoko < 1387161214 745056 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not oklofok < 1387161220 438357 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we can do this all day) < 1387161232 627785 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is leaving to france in a few hours
< 1387161234 687825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you cannot, i'll ban you on the fifth iteration or so < 1387161248 538670 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b-b-but < 1387161273 739846 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys being so silly < 1387161283 853464 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: i will hex you to read all further instances of the word "cannot" as "carrot" < 1387161284 830914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: bon voyage, Mr. Oskari < 1387161287 613506 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will SUFFER < 1387161300 274474 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you monster. < 1387161323 956297 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, why would you go to france < 1387161326 985050 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's full of french < 1387161342 118142 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387161355 610805 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's horrrrrrrible < 1387161397 271716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only boily were here to warn him < 1387161410 325089 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily would warn him in french < 1387161416 946208 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does oklofok speak the francais < 1387161419 223594 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1387161428 767980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: precisely what's needed to scare some sense into him! < 1387161440 835729 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it does sound right dreadful < 1387161453 190949 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i speak spanish well enough to buy beer, pizza and pants though < 1387161453 379629 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: what's in france for you < 1387161471 109942 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to talk about some stuff we did in chile last week < 1387161480 538692 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :donde est mi pantalones. < 1387161481 346684 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387161487 432007 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's paying you < 1387161517 868586 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we did some percolation theory stuff and just after i send the abstract to france, we found out that the guy whose book we had been using published an article about the exact same thing < 1387161529 825379 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :por qué la cervez in mi pantalones < 1387161530 163133 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :donde están mis pantalones < 1387161531 195367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it? < 1387161540 248909 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't know if he has all our results, but probably he has most of them) < 1387161551 202184 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm being paid by the university people < 1387161557 258893 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess its an idea whose time has come < 1387161559 210631 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/nathalie.aubrun/DySyCo.html#program < 1387161576 50534 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a spell to make caster refuse to visit France? (it is one of the spells in ifMUD, I think) < 1387161611 477207 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1387161615 290674 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately my mana pool is empty < 1387161631 130119 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would even be the point of that, if i don't want to go to france i can do that without a spell < 1387161653 251697 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: everyone in the CA community is suddenly doing some sort of probabilistic stuff < 1387161672 489999 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah basically < 1387161674 459191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: a highly unlikely coincidence! < 1387161688 673170 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: probably < 1387161724 40376 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387161727 939792 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :may have to do with the fact that lots of people in the CA community (not me) seem to think that there are not that many new things to do < 1387161737 478454 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Characterizing complexity and computability classes with polynomial ordinary differential equations." oh hey, neat. < 1387161748 649138 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that one of the talks < 1387161763 38680 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in the link, yeah. < 1387161783 788421 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does sound cool < 1387161795 840110 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen a few papers on it, i don't remember if bournez was on them < 1387161829 33033 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has four different cvs < 1387161850 774461 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah, he did. write papers i've read probably i mean < 1387161870 929141 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Computability and computational complexity of the evolution of nonlinear dynamical systems" "Computation with perturbed dynamical systems" etc etc < 1387161890 331364 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg our reading someone's paper / cotalking in a conference distance is at most 2. < 1387161931 628973 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know off the top of their heads the computational complexity of the problem "does there exist a planar embedding of G with at most k edge crossings?" < 1387161969 213664 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i just think they're kind of neat. i looked up an obscure paper of shannon's in a real physical library because of them < 1387162045 510411 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: sounds like a very basic question in parametrized complexity < 1387162053 573260 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :another hot topic afaiu < 1387162075 209107 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i have no idea what the answer is) < 1387162113 488300 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay maybe the planar makes it very possible that there's no paper on this < 1387162158 968672 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my answer probably requires that the problem of checking whether there's an embedding with at most k crossings is np-hard if k is given as input < 1387162178 693697 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i don't actually know < 1387162312 60005 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" oklofok: bon voyage, Mr. Oskari" btw you're right < 1387162416 203827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHA* < 1387162538 930555 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mr. Öör Andersson Jan < 1387162564 247985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am one of the few people of my age in the family not to have a middle name, i think. < 1387162580 268532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopse i looked at reddit.com/r/haskell again < 1387162588 173626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1387162604 882271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least this particular monad tutorial is at a negative score so i guess i can't complain about it saying wrong things < 1387162623 674916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just read the 24 days posts hth < 1387162646 191667 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you still have that hth disabler script thing < 1387162650 899217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1387162669 91013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/r/monadtutorials < 1387162705 218868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how this section is called "definiton" < 1387162707 850488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1387162715 799808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"definition" < 1387162782 391852 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: and now there's even a bunch of comments. I think that's it for this year. < 1387162801 851400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitons, the force carriers of the strong monadic action < 1387162830 450278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen b_jonas < 1387162835 30813 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-12-14 23:08:46: nope, http://caniuse.com/ doesn't mentino these < 1387162849 350058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mentino is another rarely mentioned particle < 1387162952 361566 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas I've extended https://github.com/int-e/zeckendorf to deal with trailing zeros, subtracting a larger from a smaller number (which will result in 0 for Zeckendorf numbers) and a bunch of comments. Enjoy! < 1387162952 550336 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387163016 920088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you should disable the hth disabler script < 1387163021 838947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i miss the hthful days < 1387163108 858850 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hateful? < 1387163125 510191 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: it is NP-complete < 1387163141 123112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth leads to suffering < 1387163169 220056 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: but there are efficient approximation algorithms for graphs of bounded degree < 1387163180 629632 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there are < 1387163270 165840 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is https://cs.uwaterloo.ca/~plragde/papers/hlayer_ESA.ps related < 1387163362 42064 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dist.ist.tugraz.at/cape5/why.html < 1387163381 703551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one disable hths < 1387163485 869783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think elliott wrote a script < 1387163534 348736 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay gtg, love you guys lol tihihi <3 < 1387163535 620936 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT : < 1387163696 337231 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1387163707 479726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The only known results are that the free Heyting algebra on one generator is infinite, and that the free complete Heyting algebra on one generator exists (and has one more element than the free Heyting algebra)." < 1387164317 31737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wat < 1387164353 115441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ? < 1387164362 311801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :known results about what < 1387164379 31951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already closed the page < 1387164384 772905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google "has one more element than the free Heyting algebra" < 1387164385 267653 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_problem_(mathematics) < 1387164385 468524 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Word problem (mathematics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < 1387164395 222224 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_problem_(mathematics) < 1387164427 703776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1387164457 420278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess saying an infinite things has one more element than another infinite things can make sense when the things are more interesting than sets < 1387164530 784494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw you know how if you take a discrete space and then add one more element which isn't in any open set (not even the set of everything) then you get a thing which is like a pointed set < 1387164553 21927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and you keep the usual definition of continuity and so on of course) < 1387164579 868428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can add an element which is in every set, even the "empty" one < 1387164583 339560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :same deal < 1387164585 373362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i assume it means "has one element that isn't in the free heyting algebra" < 1387164610 310119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1387164677 571563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i am not sure i know, unless you are talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandroff_extension < 1387164710 444818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i don't think i am < 1387164717 63378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the thing i'm talking about isn't a topological space < 1387164739 783761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :food -> < 1387164754 826333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just mean, you know how a space is (X,{{},X,...open sets...}) < 1387164757 140620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fine < 1387164785 620458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the same alexandrov as an alexandrov topology i guess < 1387164875 996960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just bug someone else instead < 1387164881 264109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i shouldn't be bugging people, hmm < 1387165061 436340 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387165107 995889 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387165669 907842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1 i 10 * 1 i 10 < 1387165670 456180 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |value error: i < 1387165670 645005 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: | 1 i 10*1 i 10 < 1387165699 874155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1 i 10 < 1387165700 568570 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |value error: i < 1387165700 757412 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: | 1 i 10 < 1387165721 679413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's 1 i 10 < 1387165725 830083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :j would be so much cooler if you could remember the functions < 1387165728 848024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i 10 < 1387165729 479850 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: |value error: i < 1387165729 668779 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: | i 10 < 1387165740 54607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i 1 10 < 1387165740 760294 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |value error: i < 1387165740 949095 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: | i 1 10 < 1387165745 673900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) u < 1387165746 283869 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |value error: u < 1387165748 502541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1387165756 845869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that supposed to be iota < 1387165768 158229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1 iota 10 < 1387165768 865087 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |value error: iota < 1387165769 53909 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: | 1 iota 10 < 1387165774 218242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1387165779 560263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it < 1387165781 447954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i. 10 < 1387165782 71135 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 < 1387165787 334264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew < 1387165791 938758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1 i. 10 < 1387165792 568600 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1 < 1387165793 298607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OBVIOUSLY < 1387165811 282307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i. 10 + 1 < 1387165811 934418 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 < 1387165817 428053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1 + i. 10 < 1387165817 742286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1 + i. 10 < 1387165817 944960 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 < 1387165818 365007 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 < 1387165838 62458 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i. 3 * i. 3 < 1387165838 539497 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: |ok < 1387165847 927632 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand anything. < 1387165854 960812 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i. 3 * 3 < 1387165855 548085 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 < 1387165859 597986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) (i. 10) * (i. 10) < 1387165860 292316 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 < 1387165877 188088 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. zip < 1387165887 906965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you looking for a multiplication table < 1387165896 850553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1387165909 86756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just playing < 1387165909 647354 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith (*) [0..9] [0..9] < 1387165910 799956 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81] < 1387165911 261100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1387165934 538669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> liftM2 (*) [0..9] [0..9] < 1387165935 847117 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,0,3,6,9,12... < 1387165940 799891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i. 10 5 < 1387165941 502163 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 0 1 2 3 4 < 1387165941 690888 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 5 6 7 8 9 < 1387165941 691050 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 10 11 12 13 14 < 1387165941 691142 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 15 16 17 18 19 < 1387165941 691235 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 20 21 22 23 24 < 1387165942 248371 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ... < 1387165944 579568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1387165951 402953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i. 3 4 < 1387165951 960831 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 0 1 2 3 < 1387165952 149817 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 4 5 6 7 < 1387165952 149984 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 8 9 10 11 < 1387165963 534765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) i. 2 3 4 < 1387165964 118602 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 0 1 2 3 < 1387165964 307259 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 4 5 6 7 < 1387165964 307400 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 8 9 10 11 < 1387165964 307496 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: < 1387165964 307586 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 12 13 14 15 < 1387165964 496913 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ... < 1387165970 69547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that's too spammy < 1387166054 810465 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387166107 552047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) (1 + i. 4) */ (1 + i. 4) < 1387166108 326459 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 1 2 3 4 < 1387166108 515614 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 2 4 6 8 < 1387166108 515787 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 3 6 9 12 < 1387166108 515879 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 4 8 12 16 < 1387169443 275608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quotation found in the comments of http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1622: Sidney Morgenbesser (to B.F. Skinner): “So, you’re telling me it’s wrong to anthropomorphise humans?“ < 1387169520 383247 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a basic way to explain behaviorism < 1387169554 771139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains why googling it led me to http://lesswrong.com/lw/6i5/behaviorism_beware_anthropomorphizing_humans/ < 1387169611 828462 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy, lesswrong. but yeah the idea is basically to say that introspection isn't admissible, so you're left with what you can actually observe and record people doing. < 1387169654 527180 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that avoids thinking and poetry and other human things. < 1387169722 251546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other blog post started with aaronson getting interviewed by yudkowsk[iy]'s institute, btw. < 1387169744 766483 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, sigh < 1387169765 874544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, the first one. < 1387169791 947104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can sigh when you get to lubos motl's response. which i skipped. hth < 1387169803 763111 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm trying to think of morgenbesser, i swear i've heard that name or something like it < 1387169849 112641 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oskar morgenstern. i am officially bad at names. < 1387169895 310958 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :motl's that recurrent guy right < 1387169906 274938 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who says things like, well, that < 1387170044 994066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's pretty recurrently offensive < 1387170051 961986 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1387170095 43006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also by skipping i meant not actually reading much of his blog post. < 1387170105 394558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, wat < 1387170108 552754 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :jconn: nice multiplication table < 1387170109 118766 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: nice multiplication table < 1387170124 370977 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you actually clicked the link? < 1387170132 950653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes. < 1387170144 711746 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why < 1387170159 547477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough previous negative reinforcement. < 1387170162 143258 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that was a good interview < 1387170169 987285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is reading the behaviorist thing now
< 1387170181 252759 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :behaviorist thing? < 1387170190 819493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: on less wrong. < 1387170204 780501 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387170211 923670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not so long. < 1387170226 435169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's not by yudkowsky himself. < 1387170416 19753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[Evolution] is is especially too slow and large-grained to produce human-level behavior: citing my sources in MLA format is an important skill, and I don't want to have to wait until ten generations of my ancestors have perished for citing their sources incorrectly before I can do it right." < 1387170444 957949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph, the "is is" was in the original < 1387170503 687381 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they mention the endocrine system < 1387170547 501715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i can see < 1387170566 987651 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's the behavioral modulator that's faster than genetics but slower than synapses < 1387170601 661500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1387170602 336631 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the article is about skinner's program of explaining thoughts in addition to behavior, and the idea that mental behavior is created by a process akin to evolution. < 1387170618 318442 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't go into detail about mechanisms < 1387170624 606333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quintopia < 1387170626 341766 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1387170638 938368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn quintopia is our resident tl;dr generator. < 1387170643 981830 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1387170654 518641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though it is slow and large-grained, but there is a lot of time available so it doesn't matter if it is slow. If you want to cite your sources in MLA format, then read the book to explain how it is working, or ask someone how. < 1387170657 718882 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome < 1387170667 253110 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should practice gisting anyway < 1387170685 71283 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the point of the quotation is to explain why something as fast and flexible as the nervous system is adaptive. < 1387170704 512576 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not just the nervous system, the whole of behavioral modulation. < 1387170733 202177 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Ah, OK. It also explains the kind of mistake they made by typing "is is". < 1387170789 309585 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's the opposite of an anticipation error. < 1387170794 364014 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would call it a recursion error < 1387170847 829927 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also explains how i just ate part of a toothpick by accident < 1387170855 225987 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of these .MOD files are nine bytes longer than my program expects, while others are the same size the program is expecting. Why is that? < 1387170878 644093 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387170880 216096 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387170883 220332 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called an addition < 1387170896 793085 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the opposite of an anticipation error is a perseveration error < 1387171037 328916 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :A second kind is a semantic bias which shows a tendency for sound bias to create words that are semantically related to other words in the linguistic environment. Motley and Baars (1976) found that a word pair like "get one" will more likely slip to "wet gun" if the pair before it is "damp rifle". These results suggest that we are sensitive to how things are laid out semantically.[14] < 1387171192 953737 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387171278 442445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally the word before "is is" was "it". < 1387171307 860124 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :linguistic errors are the bomb < 1387171630 313084 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so i get a massive error configuring git for install. i don't know what happen. < 1387171693 761046 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does sprunge not work anymore < 1387171748 144213 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprunge is broken the world is falling apart < 1387171807 506594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :500 Internal Server Error < 1387171841 634622 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387171877 828044 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387171908 59495 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you tell me why these errors are happening pls pls pretty pls http://pastie.org/8555134 < 1387171999 425740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: missing .h files? < 1387172014 61728 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: looks like it. but how do i get them? < 1387172076 185653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that i dunno. < 1387172127 232225 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387172176 872318 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they look like pretty standard libs, and i've probably compiled against them before at some point...soooo where did they go? < 1387172204 153532 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387172278 672936 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i mv a directory to somewhere that directory already exists, will it just overwrite that directory in its entirety? < 1387172348 856352 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387172388 389921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: hm, i note they're not in /usr/include on nvg's machines either. < 1387172411 251198 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: because they are in /include i think < 1387172437 888842 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but funny thing...heh...i accidentally mv'd /usr/include to /include the other day >.> < 1387172504 450123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv back? < 1387172518 625923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right hm < 1387172544 741808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: perhaps run a diff between the directories? < 1387172571 136192 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how? /include is gone poof replaced with /usr/include < 1387172587 413512 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need new copies of all those libs < 1387172597 102897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have a /usr/include at all now? < 1387172615 440082 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i have a soft link from there to /include < 1387172621 355017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1387172634 707294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was there an /include previously? < 1387172665 377994 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not < 1387172668 910782 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm jsut guessing here < 1387172679 771339 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but either way i need some libraries that i don't have < 1387172716 64699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :here the files are in /usr/include/linux/stddef.h and /usr/include/c++/4.4/tr1/stdarg.h (also 4.3) < 1387172771 111346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have those, maybe you are just missing the correct search paths? < 1387172782 190070 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i have that < 1387172809 499397 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i check that < 1387172830 861395 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, it found stdio just fine you can see < 1387172860 938912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, when i checked stdio.h only one of those files should actually be included if you have __GNUC__ set < 1387172993 782610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how you set those paths. < 1387173060 327298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommend asking someone who knows this stuff rather than guessing >:) < 1387173280 653122 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am < 1387173282 116471 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1387173300 353559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome < 1387173689 634431 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387174001 966819 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, that's still a great gif. < 1387174186 442484 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :badger :D < 1387174350 793082 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf git wtf < 1387175997 219869 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sprunge seems broken; instead of the URL getting output, I get an HTML document specifying 500 Internal Server Error. < 1387176151 198091 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes we discussed this above < 1387177343 824292 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387177419 866914 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387177591 447359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I didn't notice it < 1387177663 933824 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387177727 289805 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1387177934 889319 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the Elo rating system it is said "In some cases the rating system can discourage game activity for players who wish to protect their rating." Would inflation (like it is in money) help? < 1387178158 858811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like many of the alternative systems that never decrease, either. < 1387178189 896807 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: or decreasing the rating over the time? < 1387178325 157087 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: It could be another possibility < 1387178367 9466 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the easiest fix would be to prefer "newer" ratings. for instance, when lots of players have gained position but haven't played some high ranked old player, the system should simulate their playing that old player and try to guess what the rating would be if they had played. and it should err on the side of underguessing. < 1387178370 95827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think using a rating system with reference dates selected (like epoch dates in astronomy are done) may do < 1387178405 961216 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus the only way to keep your score accurate and not low-balled is to actually play < 1387178473 512883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yes, I did also think of doing something like that, not exactly like your example though < 1387179154 793073 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387179178 568917 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: If there was an "/include", and you did "mv /usr/include /include", you'd just have ended up with /usr/include as /include/include -- but usually there isn't an /include. (I don't have a better opinion on where those files could've gone, but being compiler-specific, they tend live in e.g. /usr/lib/gcc and come with the corresponding compiler package.) < 1387179192 92484 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thanks < 1387179234 219259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan If I were to go the Unicode way, I'd surely go with a multiocular o. < 1387179234 407967 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387179301 668623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie I thought you were annoyed that gurgle looked different from google... < 1387179301 894403 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387179306 47182 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387179329 559308 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387179341 453068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-told < 1387179341 658338 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 1m 47s ago: If I were to go the Unicode way, I'd surely go with a multiocular o. < 1387179381 898551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan MULTIOCULAR < 1387179382 126865 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387179397 716524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie OKAY < 1387179397 905289 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387179401 456198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, perhaps that is too silly. < 1387179411 573528 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why does @messages-whatever do @messages-loud < 1387179414 531737 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1387179414 720650 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1387179420 399524 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1387179429 24880 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of automagic typo correction. < 1387179431 350371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-sound < 1387179431 539114 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 49s ago: MULTIOCULAR < 1387179441 294527 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nessages- < 1387179441 491010 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: messages? messages < 1387179446 764409 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i fucking didn't < 1387179449 715005 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nessages-loud < 1387179449 904044 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1387179450 355287 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only if it's closer (edit-distance-wise) than 2, and unambiguous. < 1387179452 815231 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@butts < 1387179453 4033 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1387179455 229124 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, edit distance. < 1387179488 993550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a special case for an unambiguous prefix, iirc < 1387179497 981815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@lis < 1387179498 170984 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: list listall listchans listmodules listservers < 1387179550 203526 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listclans < 1387179550 430764 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :##categorytheory ##crypto ##logic ##manatee ##megaharem ##proggit ##villagegreen #agda #arch-haskell #csa_uva #darcs #diagrams #dreamlinux-es #esoteric #fedora-haskell #friendly-coders #functionaljava #gentoo-haskell #gentoo-uy #ghc #happs #haskell #haskell-arcade #haskell-blah #haskell-books #haskell-br #haskell-fr #haskell-freebsd #haskell-game < 1387179550 619825 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell-gsoc #haskell-in-depth #haskell-infrastructure #haskell-lens #haskell-llvm #haskell-overflow #haskell-pl #haskell-soc #haskell.au #haskell.cz #haskell.de #haskell.dut #haskell.es #haskell.fi #haskell.hr #haskell.it #haskell.jp #haskell.no #haskell.ru #haskell.se #haskell.tw #haskell_ru #hscraft-srv #jhc #jtiger #learnanycomputerlanguage # < 1387179550 619966 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :learnprogramming #ledger #lesswrong #lw-prog #macosx #macosxdev #rosettacode #scala #scalaz #scannedinavian #snapframework #tanuki #teamunix #unicycling #xmonad #yi < 1387179555 609536 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cripes, sorry < 1387179566 408695 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i even ask about megaharem < 1387179575 588919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dick-balls < 1387179575 777796 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1387179575 967048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU WILL BE SORRY < 1387179586 654368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :##megaharem?? < 1387179593 59729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot of channels. < 1387179611 218942 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf megaharem < 1387179658 214218 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1387179662 576758 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ALL the haskell < 1387179711 948346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrvatski < 1387179717 183972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8753/y3g7.png uh (topic of ##megaharem) < 1387179742 11355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1387179771 666715 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i uh < 1387179780 557432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks liberal < 1387179817 79520 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :patrick seems to have fun < 1387179827 985738 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :these people aren't fictional, are they < 1387179857 19173 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The topic also contains Patrick's TODO list: http://piratepad.net/nB6tkjjE70 < 1387179862 955907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I didn't *go* there, I just /list'd.) < 1387179883 386309 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i forgot you can do that. < 1387179907 109777 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real travesty here is that they didn't use dotty < 1387179919 744207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I have a friend who maintains such a graph using Graphviz < 1387179925 445449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell/2013-10-31.log:16:42:15 @tell elliott Hi! I'd like lambdabot to @join ##megaharem. I was told to pester you for the relevant privileges. < 1387179932 232752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :theirs is a bit too complicated to do in mspaint though < 1387179938 857784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus mspaint is just a big turnoff < 1387179943 712017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot/2013-11-02.log:15:31:31 LeoTal said 1d 22h 49m 15s ago: Hi! I'd like lambdabot to @join ##megaharem. I was told to pester you for the relevant privileges. < 1387179946 715517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot/2013-11-02.log:15:31:57 @join ##megaharem < 1387179961 114560 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually learned dotty from similar diagrams < 1387179964 763828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: I guess you go everywhere you're asked, huh? < 1387179966 583118 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to feel about that suddenly < 1387179971 163296 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: you're a monster. < 1387179973 927718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real question is, where is lambdabot on the graph < 1387180003 62001 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably patrick < 1387180015 738792 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387180050 119087 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a similar graph on #esoteric once, using a thresholded version of the nick-mentioning matrix as an adjacency matrix (and GraphViz, of course), but that didn't really look terribly good. < 1387180062 964941 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the graphs had thousands of nodes. < 1387180073 642448 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :opening an svg forced me to do a hard restart. < 1387180091 383612 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not my most brilliant plan < 1387180157 903031 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: omg that is a great idea < 1387180174 219843 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just have to think about how to make newick into fancy ascii art < 1387180327 976108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't seem to find the graphs I did draw. < 1387180349 384819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It really was just http://zem.fi/ircvis/esoteric/people_mentions.html in graph form, though. < 1387180417 911730 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I should've used something else than a global threshold for the edges, though. Like a per-node maximum degree limit. < 1387180445 100446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though that would be kind of lying.) < 1387180472 40685 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it's patrick < 1387180500 300561 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i would've made something like a phylogenetic tree < 1387180533 823920 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with shorter distances, the more people talk with each other < 1387180566 420974 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not phylogenic /or/ genetic >: < 1387180576 781808 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah < 1387180614 780777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The graph is also pretty clearly not a tree. (See: loops.) < 1387180634 924270 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are right < 1387180636 976126 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... < 1387180648 303602 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make a maximum-weight spanning tree out of it, though. < 1387180653 90635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you wanted a tree, anyway. < 1387180671 121986 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://biologicalmarginalia.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/cladistics-of-doom/ < 1387180732 252546 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so... you are one of these... biological people? < 1387180749 449881 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike all us machine people. < 1387180758 24353 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: working on it < 1387180792 292900 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i have one course as minor subject < 1387180810 427301 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1387180933 517688 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://medicalbioinformatics.de/teaching/item/19710-algorithmic-bioinformatics (won't help you much, because it's german) < 1387180963 923007 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm basically imagining a course in computational cladistics. < 1387180981 99919 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387180986 618532 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you do sequence alignment too. yeah, usual stuff < 1387181000 963163 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty neat but i dunno much bioinformatics beyond implementing bitap on a lark once :p < 1387181020 144643 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh proteins too huh. any folding? < 1387181032 885029 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are on it, currently < 1387181047 162668 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty hard for a computer science student < 1387181049 441255 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's the cliche thing but there must be other things, like molecular cladistics or finding domains or some shit < 1387181070 211533 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: why do people know "bioinformatics" but not "informatics"? < 1387181100 323083 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do they know DNA but not nucleic acids < 1387181138 296209 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really know what 'informatics' is. i just kind of imagine library science < 1387181157 506443 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway what's hard about bioinformatics. everybody's like ten years behind in software development < 1387181159 403379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bioïnformatics < 1387181193 787447 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well, "bioinformatics" is "bioinformatik" in german and "computer science" is "informatik" in german < 1387181201 508423 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty strange for me < 1387181202 437064 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1387181207 263514 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not like that in English. < 1387181224 948107 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess there's 'information technology'. < 1387181236 738446 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you are right, programming stuff is pretty easy < 1387181244 324338 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like lambdabot talks to itself a lot < 1387181248 333313 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though i really hate biojava < 1387181257 419858 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i said, ten years behind. < 1387181267 168373 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my lab uses DOS programs, man < 1387181275 181194 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1387181289 217753 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"they work, so noboy's bothered moving them" < 1387181295 448826 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never heard about webservices before, ever < 1387181307 418066 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's hard to tell whether optbot talked to elliott or fungot more (elliott by a nose) < 1387181307 663471 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: and other variables. ever. ( great game too) http://gamegarage.co.uk/ play/ mousegame/ < 1387181310 662428 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, why the hell do you want to send ugly soap stuff via http? < 1387181325 121239 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soap in java sucks even more than java alone < 1387181336 506661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you in the largest connected component < 1387181336 711661 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: combinator theory: a function with an arbitrary limit on height? < 1387181337 583082 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lab program i actually work on outputs tables as text files full of \ts < 1387181342 48193 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, shut up, you got it good son < 1387181362 93399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawn, kids, etc < 1387181376 747021 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :until now i can't figure out how to make a single soapelement to send as an argument to a method < 1387181385 751666 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not an age thing, it's an oh god does it get worse thing. < 1387181389 382519 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because every soapelement has to have a soapelement as parent < 1387181395 386537 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, at least i'm not using excel. < 1387181431 122426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: why am i even awake < 1387181431 411280 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: get him a helmet!" was the subject of the day! the simulator hangs after 5300 ticks, both as an applet or standalone.)) < 1387181461 632528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if someone kidnapped fungot and substituted a fungot simulator < 1387181461 981457 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't think i'll be of much help to you. using ncurses doesen't mean using panels, because i read the archive, which doesn't really teach anyways!! you don't want to < 1387181476 541960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plan fungot from outer space < 1387181476 806833 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: look there is no stdin stdout, but doesn't do anything about warnings. < 1387181503 623638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :would we even notice < 1387181514 796847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not fungot but another bot of the same name < 1387181514 985637 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i can't read < 1387181518 6847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you the real fungot < 1387181518 292478 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it strikes me also fnord it could be worthwhile to skim the logs from fnord for info on why it's called fnord < 1387181522 371183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that explains a lot (??) < 1387181522 559860 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is the path taken through the fsa) it prints nothing) < 1387181527 747135 :carado!~user4539@mar44-5-88-182-30-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387181569 583168 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: after about 10 sessions or so one bioinformatics student asked why it is so much repetition < 1387181576 175062 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was like "what the fuck, man?" < 1387181576 671257 :PatrickRobotham!uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vjndcgnvlwhbbjcz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387181590 56611 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it < 1387181611 427442 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this course seems to be boring for most of them < 1387181621 197994 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they already had nearly everything < 1387181626 595239 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387181637 648767 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should clarify that i'm not in bioinformatics. i'm the guy spitting out original data in a unique undocumented format that i need you to send to my pal in spain < 1387181650 422623 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387181675 82334 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds equally painful < 1387181685 648010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello i am prince of nigeria i have USD $100,000,000 of bioinformatics data < 1387181686 59789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Most of those lambdabot mentions are from lambdabot asking people to /msg lambdabot @messages. < 1387181701 533100 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm mostly working before the data-reading part so the pain is just in people who don't know how to code, and hey what else is new. < 1387181708 249362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whither ruddy < 1387181709 445773 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh of course < 1387181745 312798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :died on the way to his home planet?? < 1387181757 513875 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe someday i'll have to parse a few hundred measurements of sarcomere length data sorted by salmon acclimation temperature. livin the dream < 1387181759 92928 :PatrickRobotham!uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vjndcgnvlwhbbjcz PART :#esoteric < 1387181759 282135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your home planet < 1387181759 282297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick kmc|notdrunk < 1387181765 261788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: earth < 1387181772 18368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :BatrickRobotham < 1387181783 374905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can jews eat robot ham < 1387181795 963842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hang on just a minute are you drunk < 1387181815 420890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. clever trick but i've found you out < 1387181819 852362 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he was drunk would he mime indicating he was drunk? think logically shachaf < 1387181830 883632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've laid some kind of trap! < 1387181858 636621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no home planet < 1387181863 53498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm from space.........chu space < 1387181883 316244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are drunk you would accidentally mime indicating you are drunk. If you are not drunk then you will do it on purpose instead. < 1387181885 501582 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you call a very very small chu space? < 1387181889 97425 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1387181923 927421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: or what if you're lying < 1387181991 229507 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote i'm from space.........chu space < 1387181995 654665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That doesn't matter; the result will be the same if you are lying or not. < 1387181997 781973 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1145) i'm from space.........chu space < 1387182011 905642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: where I'm from, drunk people do integral calculus to try to demonstrate they aren't drunk < 1387182028 860750 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why do sober people do integral calculus < 1387182036 470062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kmc that's not even a good quote < 1387182043 996293 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they study physics? < 1387182049 966421 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(something tells me breathalyzer tests are more accurate than calculus tests) < 1387182052 472485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we will protect you from the terrible secret of chu space < 1387182079 108845 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if shachaf is from chu space, i want to be from Pspace < 1387182091 98150 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387182123 404155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to remember why NPSPACE isn't a thing
< 1387182141 293186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savitch%27s_theorem < 1387182148 916298 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387182152 237900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing about space is that you can reuse space but you can't reuse time < 1387182182 417610 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey that's pretty deep and stuff < 1387182190 282512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also NSPACE(s(n)) = co-NSPACE(s(n)) for any function s(n) ≥ log n ???? what a country < 1387182192 236615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : zzo38: where I'm from, drunk people do integral calculus to try to demonstrate they aren't drunk <-- i recall doing that once. < 1387182197 710272 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a country < 1387182204 537549 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i on't even know what co nspacce is fuck < 1387182222 871616 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you seem drunk < 1387182235 306136 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drunk on compllexity classes < 1387182254 674125 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#P^{my dick} < 1387182273 404328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your dick a useful oracle < 1387182286 603333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw who joined that channel and mentioned #esoteric < 1387182296 141862 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can tell whether or not he want to do it with someone in polynomial time < 1387182300 652843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going to gossip about random innocents at least don't barge in and make a fool of yourself?? < 1387182312 868589 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: #P^{my dick} is actually log :( < 1387182318 909445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i guess they attracted PatrickRobotham? < 1387182322 797854 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao < 1387182339 966643 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that actually mean it's worse, i'm not sure how 'worse' is < 1387182354 303451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your dick is so bad that it reduces the power of any complexity class < 1387182360 178776 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes right < 1387182365 354180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this like... @dril teaches cs < 1387182367 800804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have `relcomed him < 1387182390 624201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: which channe/ < 1387182398 396274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops sorry that 'l' fell over < 1387182405 189810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the chu space papers keep train analogies < 1387182407 837096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :letter hasty placement, we sincerely regret the error < 1387182409 17743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincidence? < 1387182411 959684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ïïïïï < 1387182415 250237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they chu chu analogies? < 1387182415 438964 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am skeptical of the concept of 'too big to be tractable' because i am huge and in traction all the time < 1387182421 251747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to tell < 1387182444 756001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ##megaharem, presumably < 1387182448 131758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1387182455 60172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's rude to just bust into another man's harem < 1387182459 314227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(per /msg chanserv access list ##megaharem) < 1387182475 26196 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, illegal, in the original meaning of harem < 1387182480 94205 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch it friends < 1387182499 770535 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are already men in this harem < 1387182505 637416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have we declared any fatwas recently < 1387182518 680122 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i want to see a chick in a niqab with a siren yelling PURDAH VIOLATION < 1387182524 416612 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a siren hat, see < 1387182542 95291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/!\ < 1387182563 261707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :5/!\ < 1387182579 481097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4/⚠\ < 1387182579 669786 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc strictly observes purdah < 1387182584 491880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubtful < 1387182588 63894 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf meanwhile is a freemason < 1387182594 602024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you have stairs in your house < 1387182612 494856 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean uh "who will help the widow's son" < 1387182644 401627 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a stairs < 1387182650 884202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happened to me once < 1387182656 85084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :salvia's a hell of a drug < 1387182673 515293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it good < 1387182676 660856 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1387182709 525272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like existential nightmares that will haunt you for the rest of your life < 1387182712 930595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so then i highly recommend it < 1387182735 790321 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387182740 429910 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the dual of universla nightmares < 1387182750 522985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the universal nightmare is the one we're already living < 1387182759 686813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : letter hasty placement <--- wow I transposed an entire word < 1387182779 271763 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :word hasty placement too < 1387182815 294236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time i transposed the entire world < 1387182822 820422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, I found one "relationship graph" but it's not #esoteric, it's -- actually, never mind, it's too complicated to explain. < 1387182835 127963 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time I shifted the entire universe up and to the left but nobody noticed < 1387182838 218313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is it? < 1387182863 483229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean, I think it's from darkhive data. < 1387182881 312991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's darkhive? < 1387182888 226273 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, that's exactly what I meant. < 1387182902 635927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i begin to understand < 1387182943 553648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: actually we noticed but emmy noether got us all to ignore it < 1387182955 76861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's been much relationship involvement between #esoteric members... unless I'm missing something < 1387182981 746649 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387183033 761747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :until you and shachaf started hanging out i would have been hard pressed to remember anyone who'd even met < 1387183033 950542 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387183052 44028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've met ineiros, but that doesn't really count for much. < 1387183064 222318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also mooz, but. < 1387183090 168011 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Deewiant's allegedly seen me. < 1387183094 920618 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've herded a couple of lurkers onto the channel from York < 1387183102 335935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1387183125 449912 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the weirdest idea that oklopol and oerjan met somewhere in Norway, but perhaps I dreamed that. < 1387183151 312870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that didn't happen < 1387183163 566988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps oklopol met someone else, then. < 1387183245 399500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have met 5 people in this channel and several people who used to be in this channel but are no more < 1387183261 832452 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might theoretically have met atehwa somewhere, but that's not certain at all. < 1387183267 884304 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387183341 326066 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have met two lurkers. < 1387183350 411301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i failed to meet any of you when I was in .fi < 1387183355 53774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I've met shachaf and Gracenotes < 1387183357 789466 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have met someone who has met elliott, and probably someone who has met ais523 < 1387183360 652395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and douglass_ < 1387183362 182524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I live with douglass_ < 1387183366 762609 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387183374 670492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and copumpkin < 1387183379 159208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1387183519 14473 :Effilry!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1387183525 879058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, it's not a completely edgeless graph. < 1387183527 203258 :Effilry!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly NICK :FireFly < 1387183527 454843 :carado!~user4539@mar44-5-88-182-30-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387183538 833962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the in-person-meeting graph? < 1387183552 265038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo the hug graph < 1387183558 665644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah douglass_ has also met shachaf and Gracenotes; the four of us played mölkky together in the park, it was great < 1387183566 611458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe she's even met copumpkin < 1387183567 699924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was also a dog < 1387183579 82647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "relationship" graph. I mean, we're going to have to extend that to "ever met in real life" to get at least something going. < 1387183604 907775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does your house have mölkky things yet < 1387183608 124928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: to say nothing of the dog < 1387183619 96404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oopse i have failed to say nothing of the dog < 1387183623 647830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i did read that book < 1387183654 83881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1387183656 21425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks 2 u < 1387183664 817588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it hasn't :/ < 1387183687 804533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How not to speak of dogs" by Dr. Zwinglish Gerademeister < 1387183693 383719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait which book < 1387183706 557439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :three men in a boat to say &c. < 1387183709 120926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have read it < 1387183719 655546 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it hasn't :/" was re: mölkky-things < 1387183727 69146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's _Three Men in a Boat (To Say Nothing of the Dog)_ by Jerome K. Jerome < 1387183732 357871 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mölkky-þing < 1387183734 144622 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see people use combinators inside TH expressions < 1387183738 693001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's also _To Say Nothing of the Dog_ by Connie Willis < 1387183744 22960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh i don't know this one < 1387183745 601483 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than falling back on making quasiquoters < 1387183745 917710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've read both < 1387183756 795039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it good < 1387183759 546951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter < 1387183814 219639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i don't remember it v. well it was over a decade ago that i read it and also not in english so i didn't even remember that that was the title < 1387183821 738651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think i enjoyed it < 1387183839 766520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a cat plague in it that killed all cats on earth so they went back in time to bring cats from the past < 1387183850 25474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that?? < 1387183859 640594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they had to find cats that wouldn't cause paradoxes < 1387183872 492367 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they got a dog instead? < 1387183875 745029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i making things up < 1387183878 419883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to say < 1387183968 945385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I pay Jerome so much in royalties," the publisher told a friend, "I cannot imagine what becomes of all the copies of that book I issue. I often think the public must eat them." < 1387183971 376566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's v. confusing < 1387183993 264960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it turned out that the butler did it all along < 1387184026 968599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or other things i can't remember < 1387184052 95176 :carado!~user4539@mar44-5-88-182-30-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387184094 205136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Say_Nothing_of_the_Dog < 1387184100 491787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoilers! < 1387184139 399422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Win Butler did it < 1387184158 74099 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ... distrust many of the decisions of the Yesod framework, but if I could figure out how to make combinator based routes for Yesod for use in TH without the QQ, that would be nice < 1387184231 925886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also someone in #cslounge-books recommended another book by the same author the other day or something < 1387184295 616920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know that's a channel < 1387184349 703086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it only came into existence somewhat recently < 1387184432 285871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and also the "time continuum" is conscious or something in order to correct paradoxes < 1387184435 310844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or who even knows < 1387184541 986456 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like you're not supposed to think too much about how/what that is, just that it does < 1387184554 931828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like i'm supposed to go to sleep < 1387184559 732486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :♞ < 1387184604 512591 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, judging by the time I'm supposed to go to work < 1387184694 934410 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, I never cleared out the trainers on this route < 1387184705 190397 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I've got my level 49 Snorlax into a battle < 1387184710 50108 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Against a level 9 Magikarp < 1387184746 538479 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a level 49 snot salmon? sounds fierce < 1387184791 265176 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: playing X/Y? < 1387184831 624760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: All Pokemen names in highlight, eh? < 1387184842 942285 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1387184904 783736 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387185170 763078 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387185355 802589 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, yep < 1387185660 921601 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387185771 16699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1387186197 934191 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: trailing zeros and saturated subtraction, understood, great. < 1387186780 952999 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387187021 355866 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!SENT_START OF U. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. HAVE A BUYBACK OF YOUTH !SENT_END riiight < 1387187054 335896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would that i could < 1387187075 75288 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you still have the buyback of youth? < 1387187075 435792 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: nice to see that xml uses explicit renaming). using ( require ( lib " errortrace.ss" " errortrace")) doesn't do anything for the computed result < 1387187133 827114 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!SENT_START U. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. AGE BOY GEORGE K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. !SENT_END < 1387187141 541653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's not very good. < 1387187293 162829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with the U's and K's < 1387187330 379219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'unno. < 1387187359 725612 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes there's also I. and A. < 1387187393 874116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also obsessed with buybacks. < 1387187396 94467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!SENT_START A U. K. K. K. K. YOU BUY BACK OF A YEAR THEY HAVE YOU BUY BACK BACK !SENT_END < 1387187409 895657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!SENT_START BACK OF A BOY HAVE A YEAR BUYBACK OF YOUTH BY JACK I. K. K. !SENT_END < 1387187442 686239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: It makes less sense than you! < 1387187442 875041 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: actually english has that version too: " utility" only if you want to < 1387187457 359252 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep. < 1387187556 886835 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387187556 887005 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387187675 70177 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387187675 258994 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1387188289 705270 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387188756 181561 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1387188985 446719 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1387192216 760559 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387192549 729042 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387193022 396678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL: "The mouse visual cortex is like the smartphone of neuroscience. Everyone feels the need to get one, but it remains to be seen if it's a convenience or a distraction." < 1387195154 792267 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@76.179.150.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387195990 102508 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387196152 553495 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@76.179.150.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387197091 103640 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387197247 497776 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387198693 112997 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387199486 348709 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387199622 853366 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387199671 848562 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387199733 466192 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387199751 76240 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1387200071 150174 :Timwi!~Timwi@178.19.210.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387200117 693653 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387200132 217032 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387200135 994152 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good snowy morning! < 1387200142 360474 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1387200142 558156 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2d 11h 43m 58s ago: You misspelled exercise on your user page < 1387200142 558340 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2d 11h 18m 15s ago: good unpentadactyl morning! <-- my condolences on losing a finger < 1387200142 558435 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan asked 2d 10h 48m 53s ago: normally distributed glazed eyes served over bouchées of surreal bread rolls. <-- are you attempting to create québécois/r'lyehan fusion cuisine < 1387200178 925835 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan oops. < 1387200179 123120 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387200194 151700 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I'm stuck with a prosthetic vimperator. < 1387200194 354728 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387200206 734865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan la la la ♪ < 1387200206 932085 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387200209 920657 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.119.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387200634 946735 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387200927 939977 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387201374 45026 :atriq!5c177beb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.23.123.235 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387201443 656733 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellooodl. atangevlobriq. < 1387201486 989984 :atriq!5c177beb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.23.123.235 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1387203549 820166 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387203707 780514 :natalybarel!~natalybar@91.210.100.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387203744 781053 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387203832 397591 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387203833 795478 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387203836 90608 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387203848 450784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You’re invited to try out the R2014a Prerelease with MATLAB" but I'm not sure I want to :/ < 1387203852 120359 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :boily < 1387203936 530810 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you know you want to feel the MATLAB. < 1387203976 892080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :R2014a! < 1387204033 402587 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you understand matlab? < 1387204033 614689 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i found it much more complicated than it needs to be public < 1387204041 102968 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there ↑ < 1387204058 879765 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're certainly right about that. Whatever that means. < 1387204059 82673 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: false, fnord) at the mzscheme source code:). < 1387204062 202407 :ternkustik!~ternkusti@91.210.101.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387204068 133036 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ternkustik < 1387204070 964720 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07ternkustik: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09irc.dal.net.) < 1387204473 236253 :ternkustik!~ternkusti@91.210.101.130 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387204613 831301 :natalybarel!~natalybar@91.210.100.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1387205448 737501 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387205536 990926 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :small question: how is Thue somehow enabled with nondeterminism? I'm confused by the example given. < 1387205550 117179 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it expresses nondeterminism, but it doesn't make sense. < 1387205578 261892 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the two conflicting definitions somehow in some sort of race condition or something? < 1387205717 765891 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387205918 438537 :RJones_!~root@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387205979 544810 :RJones_!~root@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us NICK :RJones < 1387206619 519461 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're lucky → http://www.cisco.com/ < 1387206676 795483 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woah. < 1387206706 815503 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN 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PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you even netsplit, bro? < 1387207658 653353 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and do you? i know i have seen that multiple times, though < 1387207699 79539 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I did, about one hour ago. < 1387207699 281158 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hardware also helps in a whole directory as a file system < 1387208066 744679 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-164-141.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387208237 64321 :RJones_!~root@169.244.180.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387208237 305072 :RJones_!~root@169.244.180.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1387208237 507769 :RJones_!~root@169.244.180.190 PART :#esoteric < 1387208344 973645 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387208346 423627 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1387208346 423769 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :*.net *.split < 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Netsplit everywhere. < 1387210886 696558 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 900593 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 900727 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.7.205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 900797 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 900869 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 900934 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 901000 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 901065 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-164-141.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 901131 :iamcal!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yhwrnorgqwyqcgel JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 901207 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 901274 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 901376 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 901445 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vwmpyawduhezrfam JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210886 901511 :Halite!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bzajfyfyjqtahkbn JOIN :#esoteric < 1387210894 731289 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: what don't you get about thue's nondeterminism < 1387210907 27808 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :how it works. < 1387210920 549040 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand it's a rewrite system and everything but.. < 1387210953 237514 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :does outputting symbols suddenly trigger a race condition or something? < 1387210955 171973 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that if more than one rule cn apply you have to pick one. < 1387210962 638380 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1387210969 262840 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh. < 1387210971 338423 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.. < 1387210989 863822 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211010 530168 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :so underneath you're just essentially using something like an RNG to select which definition to use. < 1387211039 326994 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something to that effect to make said decision. < 1387211045 676990 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. it's just not defined. < 1387211060 45231 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could always pick the first one, or always pick the last one, or use an RNG on alternate tuesdays. < 1387211066 313838 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387211072 215921 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright. < 1387211076 59025 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211078 743788 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in, say, the javascript implementation.. < 1387211083 448130 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I'm wondering. < 1387211112 627470 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean abstractly yes it's undefined but my real gripe was in the implementation :P < 1387211127 46929 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211132 581159 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Which one? < 1387211133 654995 :Gracenotes_!~person@192.241.203.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211141 360519 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one at "lolwh.at"? < 1387211151 490348 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.archive.org/web/20031210145310/http://cyberspace.org/~lament/thue.html < 1387211160 134817 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s the one that's linked on the wiki page. < 1387211168 612052 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one on Esolang gives me a 403. < 1387211217 549932 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211221 875960 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like it picks a rule randomly. < 1387211241 132256 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :I initially thought it was some kind of race condition setup. < 1387211244 392654 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387211244 599482 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387211247 272033 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :But. < 1387211254 411369 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does look just.. random. < 1387211265 104301 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"var selected = random_choice(matching_rules)" < 1387211282 907985 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1387211321 715546 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211348 839920 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387211408 451520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211467 806040 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211520 344825 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387211688 79780 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387211771 249926 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1387212258 117680 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387212686 507532 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily < 1387213295 111625 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1387213541 472514 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387213672 783726 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387213878 198402 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387214082 799862 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org NICK :polytone < 1387214165 837280 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387214550 591747 :iksfiles!~iksfiles@91.210.102.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387214616 953427 :Timwi!~Timwi@178.19.210.162 QUIT : < 1387214721 798643 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com NICK :`^_^v < 1387214727 14655 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387214760 9261 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387214772 472548 :iksfiles!~iksfiles@91.210.102.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387215083 822432 :RJones!~root@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387215217 95538 :atriq!5c177beb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.23.123.235 QUIT :Quit: Start anime transformation sequence! < 1387215307 446720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387215387 3643 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387215437 812912 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387215735 826138 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387216689 480512 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387216761 237410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hintopia. < 1387217783 906418 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387218076 486 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387218353 853575 :shemarov!~shemarov@91.210.102.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387218388 55491 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome shemarov < 1387218390 604728 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04shemarov: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08irc.dal.net.) < 1387218423 629814 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wait. didn't I `relcome you already this morning? < 1387218433 936556 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/shachaf/shemarov/ < 1387218439 668739 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No, you've never `relcomed me. < 1387218444 233507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one has. < 1387218451 705102 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but I mistabcompleted you. < 1387218456 764426 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome shachaf < 1387218459 305374 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08shachaf: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02irc.dal.net.) < 1387218463 226183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks boily < 1387218464 465393 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, boily. Thoily. < 1387218499 375077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "new wood stoves" would be a good name for a ban < 1387218574 577205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1387218615 713670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :V. fancy, named bans. < 1387218634 371683 :shemarov!~shemarov@91.210.102.11 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387218687 365681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*!*@* would be a good name for a ban < 1387218829 216771 :muitnep!~muitnep@91.210.102.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387218838 388629 :muitnep!~muitnep@91.210.102.35 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387219130 881704 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387219316 717 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387219490 362919 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick Question < 1387219517 529890 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to do modulo 2 in brainfuck < 1387219523 412417 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the values 0,1 and 2 < 1387219535 193944 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if(cell == 2) cell = 0 would work too < 1387219661 224887 :nikeoxi!~nikeoxi@91.210.101.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387219669 257308 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1387219694 204420 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean binary BF or something else < 1387219769 898081 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1387219777 344606 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but doesn't matter anyway < 1387219779 724057 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spacefish is TC < 1387219795 28811 :nikeoxi!~nikeoxi@91.210.101.172 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387219823 742698 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_algorithms#x_.3D_x_.3D.3D_y, where y = 1? < 1387219895 753037 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, someone strange is doing something weird on IRC from 91.210.101.0/24...) < 1387219960 594457 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1387219964 69052 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 100% TC. < 1387219964 990125 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But < 1387219967 882440 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387219977 14416 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/Hf6likTu < 1387219982 622230 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- that would be the principle < 1387219999 524388 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed 8 is the highest value < 1387220005 927408 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the same thing should apply to 255 as well < 1387220009 356768 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need more spacing < 1387220072 756081 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you need a new cell, you set up the spacing < 1387220083 797965 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and subtract 6 (the constant pre-known distortion) from it < 1387220084 263 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387220087 416964 :dmarat!~dmarat@91.210.101.56 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387220100 802239 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dmarat: who are you exactly? < 1387220123 200816 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python print(31 /2) < 1387220124 715920 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :python: can't open file 'print(31 /2)': [Errno 2] No such file or directory < 1387220132 984370 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python "print (31 /2)" < 1387220134 453848 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :python: can't open file '"print (31 /2)"': [Errno 2] No such file or directory < 1387220138 103024 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1387220139 872138 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1387220143 882410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python -c 'print(31/2)' < 1387220145 356848 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File "", line 1 \ 'print(31/2)' \ ^ \ IndentationError: unexpected indent < 1387220149 76475 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1387220152 967842 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles HackEgo
< 1387220161 471225 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 31 `div` 2 < 1387220162 692144 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c "print(31 / 2)" < 1387220163 463914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'print(31/2)' < 1387220164 362914 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 < 1387220164 872822 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 < 1387220168 261297 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1387220174 371283 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION facepalms
< 1387220176 613363 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 31 `div` 2 < 1387220177 466897 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 < 1387220184 887087 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lood < 1387220185 91723 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2d 16h 44m 57s ago: (Control.Arrow.>>>) < 1387220197 999073 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: well, there is also [->+>-[>+>>]>[+[-<+>]>+>>]<<<<<<] for divmodding. < 1387220199 827337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (Control.Category.>>>) < 1387220201 45292 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category cat => cat a b -> cat b c -> cat a c < 1387220206 364855 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Thanks! < 1387220206 571054 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1387220272 827484 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387220273 500043 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I don't think that's what I was looking for :P < 1387220297 324062 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I _think_ I wanted (a -> b) -> (c -> a) -> (c -> b) < 1387220311 139678 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :composition? < 1387220325 614532 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes.. wait.. I may have it backwards. < 1387220335 372737 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip (.) ofc < 1387220337 901511 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was looking for something like F#'s |> operator, out of curiousity < 1387220347 127294 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ain't got time for that nerd shit < 1387220361 784222 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike you are my favorite person. < 1387220372 429896 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, mode of transportation < 1387220375 883602 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/QCN9hF7a < 1387220382 69887 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works for 255 too < 1387220386 744577 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sews wedding dresses for mrhmouse and Bike
< 1387220393 355246 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387220396 816122 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, can I borrow your mapole? < 1387220403 292857 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm an athlete, everybody loves me < 1387220431 104571 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now one just needs to find a way to determine when to allocate more memory < 1387220451 796384 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's a finite state machine < 1387220465 806429 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: please yourself, go nuts, have fun, enjoy the mapole! < 1387220505 594710 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know how much memory your program needs, you can do the space initialization at program start < 1387220546 58218 :dmarat!~dmarat@91.210.101.56 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1387220550 224169 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles boily
< 1387220559 154753 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives it back
< 1387220589 264325 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe one can check if one has wrapped around < 1387220593 869574 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then allocate more memory < 1387220600 232579 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: bleh :p < 1387220603 402341 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would require to perform a memory check after every > or < < 1387220606 745050 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hey < 1387220640 356034 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you check in Brainfuck for a certain cell value without using any other cell? < 1387220660 891074 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without changing it? < 1387220678 279858 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1387220687 500980 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :after the check it must have the same value as before the check < 1387220700 181942 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, how are you outputting a result then. < 1387220706 924286 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could then set 'tape end' markers < 1387220715 953055 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and after every > or < you check if you are at the end of the tape < 1387220720 598707 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then just allocate more memory < 1387220743 12069 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1387220788 13618 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1387220798 59510 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1387220801 276248 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use other cells < 1387220805 93249 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1387220835 532328 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use the spacing cells between real cells for temporary values < 1387220844 154173 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have to set them to 0 after you're done < 1387220971 652814 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that still doesn't explain output. < 1387221042 484016 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1387221049 911860 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll leave it to some bf-expert to figure out the rest :D < 1387221334 275677 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1387221381 981402 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387221384 157597 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :My bachelor thesis is gonna be about simulating masses of people in buildings < 1387221470 922565 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to determine if the building is capable of handling thousands of people walking different routes without jamming up < 1387221474 678317 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like train stations < 1387221512 893051 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I'm actually doing the whole bachelor stuff < 1387221764 302133 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387221781 19227 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387222037 340359 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1387222768 766233 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-164-141.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh masses of people < 1387222778 208833 :oklopol!~oklopol@ALyon-157-1-164-141.w109-213.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it < 1387222821 823530 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "groups of lots of people" < 1387222863 671266 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are calculations easier if you consider masses of groups of lots of people as a continous fluid? < 1387222883 478879 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mayb < 1387222919 886099 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the flow of people from floor to floor, gushing down staircases like the Niagara :D < 1387222944 796082 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387222946 603683 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a differential equation based approach < 1387223062 103004 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Navier-Stokes the liquid out of that approach. < 1387223072 777929 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not < 1387223082 434759 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Navier-Stokes sounds sciency < 1387223181 377615 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :engineeringly sciency. < 1387223232 592316 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea of sciency stuff < 1387223278 509692 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily < 1387223288 935535 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hintopia. < 1387223355 457970 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, a map of a subway is not an optimal mouse pad for optical mice < 1387223378 647917 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cursor tends to follow the subway lines < 1387223396 555277 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i notice you have written some interpreters in python others in ruby. what do you do your work code in? < 1387223474 826618 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387223497 782260 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: python. < 1387223527 220026 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :aubergine needs a python interp < 1387223540 135132 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had my ruby phase when I was younger, back when I was still in Cégep. I'd say... 16 to 18 year old. < 1387223554 610116 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aubergine does need a python interp. < 1387223558 815620 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387223566 471620 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write all interpreters in brainfuck < 1387223570 499877 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a Haskell one. I could create an Aubergine monad :D < 1387223590 281149 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is too easy =P < 1387223594 72296 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't python it, i will eventually < 1387223618 493745 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, there's an ISO Ruby nowadays < 1387223633 655392 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: suit yourself! (or the Québécois version: «gâte toé!») < 1387223637 797647 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: say what? < 1387223658 715305 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is groovy < 1387223679 380414 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm guessing grails is groovy on rails < 1387223700 177310 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if I read more I expect to find it deprecated and completely incompatible with any ruby version that the rubyites are willing to use, it's already a year old after all) < 1387223774 936577 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: e.g. http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=59579 < 1387223914 699842 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only CAD 283.60! < 1387224788 664135 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been playing around with something like delimited continuations and they are the most fun and mindbending ever < 1387224834 10274 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387225135 493003 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(reset (list 1 (reset (list 2 (shift k (list 3 (funcall (k 4) 5))) (list 6 (shift w #'w)))))) => (1 (3 (2 4 (6 5)))) < 1387226007 819533 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310] < 1387226096 881896 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387227133 410432 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387227636 441591 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :could anyone give step-by-step instructions for how one would construct Truth-machine in Onoz? < 1387227870 739511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god delimited continuations < 1387228100 118237 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387228139 830150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i've given up on understanding them :/ < 1387228241 216332 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just used a macro to make my mock version of shift reset < 1387228269 271751 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't /that/ hard to understand < 1387228273 396474 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1387228421 348029 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387228459 481675 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork is beginning to show multiple personalities, one of them understanding delimited continuations. < 1387228538 387069 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can successfully walk through them, it's just sometimes they don't do what I expect until I do < 1387229017 564686 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is ais523. he'd know how to construct an infinite loop which is not provably so < 1387229046 646104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION uses a delimited continuation to jump to another timeline where he understands delimited continuations
< 1387229190 8420 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387229238 872062 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're really fun to nest < 1387229631 545309 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387229672 787276 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387229954 769802 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387230077 356051 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: UNDELIMITED CHICKEN < 1387230078 664804 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387231574 911346 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387232079 445922 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387233124 995761 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reglangs do people in #esoteric use? < 1387233167 727035 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387233202 889487 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387233215 723231 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387233227 792145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-eso langs? < 1387233352 881754 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes. < 1387233375 75375 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387233391 817684 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387233444 994991 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know many here use Haskell, but talk earlier regarding Python, Ruby, Groovy, etc has me interested in what else is in use. I know that you, at least, use Rust < 1387233527 292096 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am currently forced to use Python < 1387233544 595513 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: for university? < 1387233547 722746 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-123-235.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aye < 1387233550 582704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to write Haskell quite often, but not lately < 1387233661 251840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lately it's mostly Rust, Python, C, Bash, GNU Make, JavaScript, x86 assembly < 1387233666 221838 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisps for fuckwithing, matlab at woik < 1387233679 761801 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i have a few things in verilog and javascript i should really finish. < 1387233810 834733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have been paid to write perl, haskell, c, c++, java, assembly, shell, make, rust, javascript, prolly some others < 1387233813 882525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme if being a TA counts < 1387233831 371275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when you were paid to write nops < 1387233847 560432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1387233969 462869 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I currently use C#, CoffeeScript, and D most often. I'm learning Erlang & OCaml, and I have to use C#/JavaScript/T-SQL at work. < 1387234009 985770 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-249.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387234044 74082 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you were paid to write makefiles? specifically for the makefiles, or were they part of other projects you were on? < 1387234072 753250 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a programming project wth one person working specifically n the build process would be kind of neat. < 1387234085 936959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's common on large projects < 1387234097 817228 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it rapidly grows to be a full-time job < 1387234106 204071 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if you support lots of platforms < 1387234116 603441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: part of other projects < 1387234188 494734 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Rust have a dependency management system? I've been language-hopping lately looking for a language that I like _and_ that has a good dep manager. < 1387234227 890022 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like NPM for NodeJS, Ruby Gems, D's Dub, Rebar, etc etc.. < 1387234362 715708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1387234400 571981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this rustpkg thing but it's not very complete < 1387234432 440684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't know about the current pace of development, since the main developer left Mozilla < 1387234454 317664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could look for docs or ask in #rust on irc.mozilla.org; they probably have a better idea how capable it is < 1387234457 305469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only used it a little < 1387234495 274032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the project I work on uses Make for the top-level build, and does build some individual dependencies with rustpkg, but we're having problems with it and we're probably switching away < 1387234523 744696 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was only curious; Rust struck me as too low-level for my needs when I checked it out ages ago. Though their pointer types seem far nicer than C++ < 1387234548 711927 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387234550 14465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a low-level language, yeah, though it's memory safe at the same time, which is really cool < 1387234578 453018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, the pointer types express concepts which exist in C and C++, but in those languages they exist mostly in the programmer's head and can't be checked automatically < 1387234589 12528 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1387234589 201500 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1387234668 531164 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember thinking that was useful (owned pointers, I think they're called?) < 1387234715 952415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah C also has a notion of pointers which transfer ownership vs. those which don't < 1387234732 375515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C or just C programmers? < 1387234733 101774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, strdup takes the latter and returns the former < 1387234747 61201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's zero compiler checking and if you screw it up you corrupt memory < 1387234756 264961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, C APIs anyway < 1387234770 544017 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, so it's not part of the language spec like in Rusy < 1387234784 296014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387234784 587062 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/sy/st < 1387234793 800255 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo, C! < 1387234800 392795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mention this by way of heading off the criticism (not from you, but in general) that Rust has too many pointer types < 1387234806 872424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: s|$|/| < 1387234807 77730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand i heard that you can't do self.tree = in rust < 1387234808 755098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just codifying and checking things that already exist < 1387234831 819349 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but that yields "Rus", no? < 1387234844 122817 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: No, it just adds the / you were missing. < 1387234852 263586 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: d'oh! < 1387234880 66815 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kievan rus't < 1387234906 440347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: regexes operating on regexes? that should be an esolang, oh wait < 1387234980 866005 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly I'd prefer to use C# more at home, but the most popular package manager has some issues on Mono < 1387235023 224913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1387235038 73927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, C# seems like a pretty good language, but I'm scared off using it more due to my impression that non-MS tools are half-baked < 1387235086 257402 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I can't vouch for MonoDevelop, if that's what you mean. I primarily use Vim & gmcs directly < 1387235107 137525 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mono itself is pretty mature, though. < 1387235139 835573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good < 1387235142 755493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this package manager isn't? < 1387235159 521721 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that NuGet (the MS package manager) does things like hardcode paths to look for config files (%AppData%\LocalLow\something) < 1387235172 551172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1387235190 519083 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's more on the NuGet devs :/ < 1387235221 263939 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, NuGet really shouldn't have existed in the first place.. there was already a package manager in place that works cross-platform, but MS rolled their own < 1387235272 416518 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Quit: out for a bit < 1387235350 97050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1387235364 632505 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2013/12/16/the-age-of-bitcoins-is-over/ < 1387235477 567339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lot < 1387235477 794588 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 9h 48m 18s ago: oops. < 1387235477 983357 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 9h 48m 3s ago: I'm stuck with a prosthetic vimperator. < 1387235477 983504 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 9h 47m 50s ago: la la la ♪ < 1387235477 983597 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse said 4h 14m 31s ago: Thanks! < 1387237285 463686 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.moertel.com/posts/2013-12-14-great-old-timey-game-programming-hack.html fun stuff < 1387237399 223406 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387237499 192021 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh gosh, the messing with the stack pointer thing. that reminds me of a post I saw once on how to get 8 registers on x86 < 1387237509 63979 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by stuffing the stack pointer in a memory location and using esp as a register < 1387237509 616756 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid. < 1387237513 362156 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1387237527 597628 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just kind of in awe that there was a "zero page" you could make be anywhere < 1387237532 226429 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounded like the kind of thing that could make the OS hate you < 1387237545 788242 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, yeah, I still don't really understand the zero page thing, like, I've seen it in documentation for these old things but it's weird < 1387237607 450857 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :instructions with a single byte offset can access the zero page in one cycle less than an instruction with two bytes offset < 1387237613 391557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing has an OS? < 1387237622 786082 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(due to being one byte smaller) < 1387237628 564496 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well like, 6502 had two-byte addressing, where each one-byte block was a "page", and there was an addressing mode where you just use the second byte and the first byte is zero. < 1387237631 541081 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or dp, on this thing < 1387237818 680161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AVR is kind of like that too < 1387237831 750683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "registers" are just the first n bytes of RAM, with a special compact addressing mode < 1387237878 113091 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, zero page. < 1387237918 67877 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-213.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in Metroid all your stats were in the zp, as i remember < 1387238010 944843 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what'cha discussin'. < 1387238060 95548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic. < 1387238066 43262 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :6502 you say < 1387238089 475585 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :index registers ftw.