< 1385510405 510739 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@choice-add olist < 1385510405 668411 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: @choice-add < 1385510407 260647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@choice-add olist update < 1385510407 418219 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :New candidate "update", added to poll "olist". < 1385510492 256789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ (@run text . concat . run (replicate 20 "(@vote olist update) ")) < 1385510493 236255 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `run' < 1385510493 393788 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `fun' (imported from Debug.SimpleRef... < 1385510503 237223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ (@run text . concat $ (replicate 20 "(@vote olist update) ")) < 1385510504 249644 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `compose' failed with: Missing ')' in nested command < 1385510509 433881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ (@run text . concat $ (replicate 20 "(@vote olist update) ")) < 1385510510 401631 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : (@vote olist update) (@vote olist update) (@vote olist update) (@vote olist... < 1385510521 563688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ (@read @run text . concat $ (replicate 20 "(@vote olist update) ")) < 1385510522 566826 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `compose' failed with: Unknown command: "read" < 1385510537 11617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ (@run text . concat $ (replicate 3 "(@vote olist update) ")) < 1385510537 889629 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : voted on "update" voted on "update" voted on "update" < 1385510541 619759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ (@run text . concat $ (replicate 4 "(@vote olist update) ")) < 1385510542 519153 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `compose' failed with: Missing ')' in nested command < 1385510543 684886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1385510566 791163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ (@run concat $ (replicate 20 "(@vote olist update) ")) < 1385510567 716687 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "(@vote olist update) (@vote olist update) (@vote olist update) (@vote olis... < 1385510582 172907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1385510594 297482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's @run which has such a low output limit? < 1385510598 543963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1385510601 684700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This used to work, though. < 1385510608 847577 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why Polish is so popular. < 1385510612 157108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember how I did it. < 1385510617 455695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might've used @read, which is gone now? < 1385510631 391558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help @read < 1385510631 549101 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1385510634 608009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list read < 1385510634 765883 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No module "read" loaded < 1385510645 333556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ (@run text . concat $ (replicate 20 "(@vote olist update) ")) < 1385510646 330204 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `compose' failed with: Missing ')' in nested command < 1385510736 150984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@@ )(@vote olist update)a::::::*******S < 1385510736 308595 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ (@vote olist update)(@vote olist update)(@vote olist update)(@vote olist update)(@vote olist update)(@vote olist update)(@vote olist update) < 1385510736 308761 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : voted on "update"voted on "update"voted on "update"voted on "update"voted on "update"voted on "update"voted on "update" < 1385510755 975218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, but that doesn't let you get really high. < 1385510759 964845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(kmc can confirm) < 1385510765 784510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma blah < 1385510765 942631 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah has a karma of 31337 < 1385510776 1960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion's work?? < 1385510787 729483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help show < 1385510787 887205 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :show . Print "" < 1385510792 222105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list show < 1385510792 379723 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dummy provides: eval choose dummy bug id show wiki paste docs learn haskellers botsnack get-shapr shootout faq googleit hackage thanks thx thank you ping tic-tac-toe < 1385510801 867945 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-193-164.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help haskellers < 1385510802 25490 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskellers. Find other Haskell users < 1385510806 480552 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-193-164.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@haskellers < 1385510806 638135 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskellers.com/ < 1385510813 271647 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-193-164.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great. < 1385510884 447796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@thank you < 1385510884 605440 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: thank you thanks < 1385510886 678476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if the @run cut-down is related to int-e's fixes the other day, he was looking at how that worked. < 1385510890 358985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1385510898 991815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: did you break lambdabot < 1385510945 961306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run [1..] < 1385510946 949106 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28... < 1385510987 10150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1385510990 748207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1,1..1] < 1385510991 741886 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,... < 1385511246 50398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@poll-results olist < 1385511246 246577 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poll results for olist (Open): update=932 < 1385511253 268754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1385511269 242353 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trouble is that you can't unvote. < 1385511274 391721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it is. < 1385511280 486839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can't remove options. < 1385511304 906031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1385511308 210600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma olist < 1385511308 373374 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist has a karma of 0 < 1385511312 868867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this does give me the idea to give `olist an incrementing counter. < 1385511320 233966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the obvious solution ^ < 1385511328 219792 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, @karma won't let you add a list of nicks. < 1385511336 785413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right < 1385511365 498262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where+ olist olist ((@karma olist)): shachaf oerjan < 1385511365 655978 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good to know. < 1385511367 987457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @where olist < 1385511368 145000 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : olist ((@karma olist)): shachaf oerjan < 1385511375 583931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @where olist < 1385511375 741685 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : olist (olist has a karma of 0): shachaf oerjan < 1385511392 913189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@show blah < 1385511393 111118 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"blah" < 1385511426 500307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t isNumber < 1385511427 212839 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Char -> Bool < 1385511451 190499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where+ olist olist ((@run text $ dropWhile (not isNumber) @show @karma olist)): shachaf oerjan < 1385511451 348107 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is stored. < 1385511454 763720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @where olist < 1385511455 681573 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : olist ( Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Types.Char -> GHC.Types.Bool' < 1385511455 839316 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...): shachaf oerjan < 1385511469 160515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs. < 1385511476 350932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @run @show @karma olist < 1385511477 283320 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "olist has a karma of 0" < 1385511485 324400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1385511489 563479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where+ olist olist ((@run text $ dropWhile (not . isNumber) @show @karma olist)): shachaf oerjan < 1385511489 721071 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is forever etched in my memory. < 1385511492 748413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @where olist < 1385511493 668242 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : olist ( 0 < 1385511493 825844 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :): shachaf oerjan < 1385511504 13213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, well, you get the idea. < 1385511525 47347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FANCY < 1385511536 246713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where+ olist olist ((@run text . filter isNumber $ @show @karma olist)): shachaf oerjan < 1385511536 404838 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will never forget. < 1385511539 243510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @where olist < 1385511540 192201 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : olist ( 0 < 1385511540 349967 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :): shachaf oerjan < 1385511545 565116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with the newlines? < 1385511551 298257 :Oj742!irc2gowebc@131.252.207.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385511554 980784 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-193-164.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what in sam hill is going on here < 1385511581 126951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where+ olist olist ((@run text . filter isNumber $ "")): shachaf oerjan < 1385511581 284666 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is forever etched in my memory. < 1385511584 158040 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @where olist < 1385511585 43446 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : olist ( Terminated < 1385511585 200997 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :): shachaf oerjan < 1385511589 954536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @show @karma olist < 1385511590 112174 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "olist has a karma of 0" < 1385511593 589912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am i @where+ing each time < 1385511615 473196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ olist ((@run text . filter isNumber $ @show @karma olist)): shachaf oerjan < 1385511616 425696 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : olist ( 0 < 1385511616 583240 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :): shachaf oerjan < 1385511622 462061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ olist ((@run text . filter isNumber $ @show @karma olist)): [...] < 1385511623 334024 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : olist ( 0 < 1385511623 491644 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :): [...] < 1385511630 749780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ olist ((@run text "")): [...] < 1385511631 602422 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : olist ( Terminated < 1385511631 760522 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :): [...] < 1385511641 414359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blame int-e < 1385511643 997430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "" < 1385511644 943320 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Terminated < 1385511660 199627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @show @run () < 1385511661 131418 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : " ()\n" < 1385511681 510097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1385511703 247586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sry 4 highlighting you" < 1385511773 920080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e your new @run is hard to compose with @@ because of the newline < 1385511774 78196 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1385511787 703303 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e and the spaces < 1385511787 861056 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1385511789 274530 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1385511837 146786 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1385511866 61600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 < 1385511866 954904 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1385511929 508614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he was trying to simplify the space handling. < 1385511946 278719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var $ "1\n2\n3" < 1385511947 302262 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1385511947 459781 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1385511947 459950 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 < 1385511968 631463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it's the same as it used to be there < 1385511982 265858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: p. sure it takes a rocket scientist to do that < 1385511989 533743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(space joke) < 1385512028 114044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear the new gravity movie has a joke about "it's not rocket science" < 1385512043 461867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that it's about how to use a rocket < 1385512179 953444 :typeclassy!~user@ool-3f8ff2f7.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1385512191 472100 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1385512391 362131 :Oj742!irc2gowebc@131.252.207.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1385512395 469259 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1385512450 347420 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1385512578 205649 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-62-251.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385512613 730726 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-193-164.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1385512645 44665 :typeclassy!~user@ool-435125c7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385512743 268209 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-62-251.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1385512945 42716 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385513085 993119 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1385513251 719394 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1385513270 30975 :yiyus!1242712427@server1.bouncer4you.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1385513303 364764 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1385513536 124130 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1385513592 719506 :oklopol!~oklopol@201-246-117-223.baf.movistar.cl JOIN :#esoteric < 1385513612 291088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 and I'm not sure it's a second declension male word in the first place <-- fourth, according to wiktionary, so plural is also status < 1385513612 486775 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1385513644 873809 :oklopol!~oklopol@201-246-117-223.baf.movistar.cl PRIVMSG #esoteric :evening < 1385513658 23234 :oklopol!~oklopol@201-246-117-223.baf.movistar.cl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been internetless for the last week o_O < 1385513669 585149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1385513669 957927 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-62-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get some reading done then < 1385513671 717949 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-13-156.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1385513686 106629 :oklopol!~oklopol@201-246-117-223.baf.movistar.cl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i read < 1385513709 544681 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-13-156.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1385513709 702304 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1385513818 254403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : and for words like hawaius <-- in hawaiian the name's Hawaiʻi < 1385513832 922341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's a glottal stop < 1385513839 363679 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaaaaaaah < 1385513849 631996 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The murder mystery series my dad's cousin was in HAS AIRED IN THE UK < 1385513880 594384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: does this mean you're forever shamed by your family < 1385513903 932795 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1385513908 639742 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a little annoyed nobody told me < 1385513943 299913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a mystery < 1385514056 813366 :oklopol!~oklopol@201-246-117-223.baf.movistar.cl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: who did he murder < 1385514087 860435 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, I don't know I haven't watched it yet < 1385514100 587487 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think she's playing a recurring character so maybe lots of people < 1385514114 451156 :oklopol!~oklopol@201-246-117-223.baf.movistar.cl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i thought this was some reality show < 1385514141 863527 :oklopol!~oklopol@201-246-117-223.baf.movistar.cl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously, although i didn't think your cousin was the murderer) < 1385514797 631199 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1385516849 528969 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385517150 102157 :typeclassy!~user@ool-435125c7.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1385517925 693559 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1385517952 706105 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385518672 951838 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoerjan < 1385518818 886135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ywintopia < 1385518880 641092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.linkedin.com/jobs2/view/9887522 < 1385518993 440004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the awful thing everyone is talking about < 1385518994 92667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1385519051 164773 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/search?q=%23pennyarcadejobpostings&src=typd&f=realtime ? < 1385519052 978237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it awful < 1385519070 552345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is clearly not a bad enough dude < 1385519096 437186 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the responses are pretty great (in a terribly cathartic way, at least) < 1385519115 212889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A bunch of 25 year-old kids with a ton of talent and stars in their eyes are going to try to get this crap job for crap pay" see this is where I feel pleased with myself about being 25 years old and already cynical enough to see through this shit < 1385519120 484056 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-62-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a great ad < 1385519136 585332 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-62-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man it just keeps going < 1385519183 611523 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-62-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a creative and potentially offensive environment" < 1385519184 362612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: p. sure that doesn't say "25-year-old" < 1385519286 793254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1385519325 605992 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe like, nerds will finally discover penny arcade are actually horrible people? or like they'll all apply anyways <.< < 1385519443 604527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you think of yourself as v. cynical < 1385519447 884865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't seem that way to me most of the time < 1385519470 707487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PA is like the ultimate example of nerds acting like underdog rebels even after they come to control everything < 1385519530 611889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it helps that the comic has been pretty shitty for the last few years so I don't lose much by trying to ignore them < 1385519542 617884 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was fucking hilarious for a long time, though < 1385519582 124160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I do, generally < 1385519595 989695 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see myself as relatively idealistic < 1385519597 997400 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I know that I'm pretty unfair in my judgements about myself < 1385519600 143982 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a nice life < 1385519621 646317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep in mind that kmc's favourite comic strip is jerkcity < 1385519648 915236 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it has to be Achewood < 1385519653 217306 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Jerkcity is pretty good too < 1385519887 500601 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1385520632 980486 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I guess I am cynical about most things but really positive and idealistic about a few and that keeps me going < 1385520761 233436 :oklopol!~oklopol@201-246-117-223.baf.movistar.cl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1385521073 291706 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.50 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1385521191 526315 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder when Trident will go the way of MSIE < 1385521398 729673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Z? < 1385523097 849683 :Slereah_!x@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1385523106 713454 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385523126 717923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the opposite of "cynical" < 1385523140 729680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"romantic"? < 1385523163 763518 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-62-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"optimistic", usually < 1385523193 691905 :typeclassy!~user@ool-3f8ffd99.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385523273 368396 :Oj742!~Oj742@c-71-59-199-75.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385523635 711549 :typeclassy!~user@ool-3f8ffd99.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1385524037 505560 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't be president :( < 1385524060 178223 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-62-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, of anything? < 1385524080 821579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can you be copresident < 1385524180 314467 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1385524652 310130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin can be president of my heart ♥ < 1385525036 733704 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385525059 312744 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf can be president of my fart ♥ < 1385525157 925892 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-62-251.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1385526052 512359 :typeclassy!~user@ool-43512552.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385526489 473925 :typeclassy!~user@ool-43512552.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1385526673 710415 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/hoppe/proj/videoloops/ < 1385527661 703165 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1385529089 972062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :higher order, higher rank, higher kinded polymorphism #drugz < 1385529162 813764 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "idealistic" < 1385529197 65161 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1385529223 756905 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: i think i watched a presentation about that for some conference once... < 1385529238 779591 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably SIGGRAPH < 1385529241 841633 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :linked on their site < 1385529605 703255 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1385530290 805633 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385532842 735500 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1385533452 375565 :Oj742!~Oj742@c-71-59-199-75.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1385533744 877341 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385535019 998087 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385536866 811447 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385536896 415613 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you guys consider a simplified form of FORTH to be an esoteric language? < 1385536951 844502 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1385536953 473169 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :simplified how? have you seen underload? < 1385537001 774788 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385537018 254950 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :simplified as in, not a full implementation, but enough to be turing complete and usable for embedded machines < 1385537064 399847 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't really consider that esoteric just because somebody probably already made it for such a machine. < 1385537077 321630 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I broke down the semantics of the language so that everything could be bootstrapped with no 'special' operators or keywords < 1385537125 398748 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 ? " true " : " false " ; type < 1385537145 843693 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the if conditional looks like a ternary expression < 1385537166 4360 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it is. < 1385537207 171799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A language is esoteric iff it has an esolangs.org wiki page. < 1385537215 31675 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1385537229 737509 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's ; < 1385537272 253124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You just done proved that Perl really is an esoteric language. (Not that there was any doubt.) < 1385537275 223902 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you asking what the esoteric language named 'semi-colon' is, or are you asking about the code? < 1385537403 19320 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theh code. < 1385537405 445959 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first instruction in the code is the '-1', which just adds a -1(the standard value for a true boolean), then the '?' is the instruction for a conditional expression which will run the code between the '?' and the ':' if the item popped from the stack is true, and will run the code between the ':' and the ';' if the popped item is false < 1385537431 424660 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then what's "type"? < 1385537434 654653 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ';' really just marks the end of the if statement < 1385537435 475158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ; the comment character < 1385537439 854732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1385537482 867412 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'type' is an intrstuction to pop an item off the stack as a pointer and print it as a string < 1385537492 454383 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i see. < 1385537496 666880 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd name < 1385537517 420112 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Odd but popular. < 1385537522 334630 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's -"1 type" do, out of curiosity < 1385537530 256757 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-1 type"* < 1385537533 661630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :TYPE CON < 1385537563 961892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: p. sure hott has a meaning for -1-type < 1385537569 204012 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will try to use -1 as a char pointer and probably segfault or throw an error depending on whether type checking was enabled < 1385537573 203034 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure i don't care. < 1385537579 242840 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: makes sense. < 1385537621 448013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://comonad.com/reader/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/slides.pdf < 1385537710 728045 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth -1 1 type < 1385537711 499516 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ in file included from *OS command line*:-1 \ /tmp/input.20539:1: Invalid memory address \ -1 1 >>>type<<< \ Backtrace: \ $7FCE1EB7CE70 write-file < 1385537731 163106 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plain "-1 type" stack-underflows, of course. < 1385537742 168678 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :: fib dup 2 < ? : dup 1 - fib 2 - fib + ; ; < 1385537823 83949 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth -1 IF S" true" ELSE S" false" THEN TYPE < 1385537823 560426 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ in file included from *OS command line*:-1 \ /tmp/input.20573:1: Interpreting a compile-only word \ -1 >>>IF<<< S" true" ELSE S" false" THEN TYPE \ Backtrace: \ $7FC39808AB30 throw < 1385537830 387046 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-.- < 1385537862 433258 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : true s" true " ; : false s" false" ; -1 IF true ELSE false THEN TYPE < 1385537862 992601 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :redefined true redefined false \ in file included from *OS command line*:-1 \ /tmp/input.20617:1: Interpreting a compile-only word \ : true s" true " ; : false s" false" ; -1 >>>IF<<< true ELSE false THEN TYPE \ Backtrace: \ $7F25C6EC4B30 throw < 1385537869 319658 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-.- < 1385537880 970450 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why I created the simplified form < 1385537891 494438 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth -1 [IF] S" true" [ELSE] S" false" [THEN] TYPE \ so immediate < 1385537892 176152 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1385538093 889473 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth -1 if s" true" else s" false" then type < 1385538094 596467 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ in file included from *OS command line*:-1 \ /tmp/input.20897:1: Interpreting a compile-only word \ -1 >>>if<<< s" true" else s" false" then type \ Backtrace: \ $7FF2BEB33B30 throw < 1385538112 125490 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth -1 [if] s" true" [else] s" false" [then] type < 1385538112 909213 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1385538115 508252 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Repeating the same thing is not going to make it work. :p < 1385538120 556889 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get this. < 1385538137 635757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See some documentation re interpretation and compilation semantics. < 1385538151 595375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : dummy -1 if s" true" else s" false" then type ; dummy < 1385538152 172514 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :redefined dummy true < 1385538156 978975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... < 1385538167 217561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a defined "dummy"? < 1385538179 125309 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth dummy type < 1385538179 784827 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ in file included from *OS command line*:-1 \ /tmp/input.21094:1: Stack underflow \ dummy >>>type<<< \ Backtrace: \ $7F886AB35E70 write-file < 1385538186 871234 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth dummy < 1385538187 287766 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1385538193 190355 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what? < 1385538194 523299 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think dummy is no op. < 1385538196 951115 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth 4 type < 1385538197 637660 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ in file included from *OS command line*:-1 \ /tmp/input.21221:1: Stack underflow \ 4 >>>type<<< \ Backtrace: \ $7F6B3345CE70 write-file < 1385538210 451128 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, it's clearly been way too long since i 'learned' forth. < 1385538211 792564 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth ." This is a test" < 1385538212 233030 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a test < 1385538214 728477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth see dummy < 1385538215 337180 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ : dummy ; immediate < 1385538222 576370 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently. < 1385538276 929027 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth s" 'type' prints the usual two-cell string" type < 1385538277 660393 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'type' prints the usual two-cell string < 1385538324 610041 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why two cells? < 1385538345 865266 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn’t you fit a pointer into one? < 1385538369 943900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an address-and-length pair. < 1385538379 233973 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1385538383 53975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth s" foo" . . < 1385538383 806205 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 140010104896768 < 1385538389 922266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth c" foo" . < 1385538390 556511 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ in file included from *OS command line*:-1 \ /tmp/input.21579:1: Interpreting a compile-only word \ >>>c"<<< foo" . \ Backtrace: \ $7F9583151B30 throw < 1385538394 815220 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1385538413 570847 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : bah c" foo" . ; bah < 1385538414 278657 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :139705325593352 < 1385538420 803420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : bah c" foo" count type ; bah < 1385538421 506584 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1385538427 244445 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so on. < 1385538473 723779 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : bah c" foo" -1 type ; bah < 1385538474 222921 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1385538482 334433 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : bah c" foo" 1 - type ; bah < 1385538482 888597 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ in file included from *OS command line*:-1 \ /tmp/input.21780:1: Stack underflow \ : bah c" foo" 1 - type ; >>>bah<<< \ Backtrace: \ $7F782C04CE70 write-file \ $7F782C09F348 type < 1385538508 710265 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : bah c" foo" count 1 - type ; bah < 1385538509 189881 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fo < 1385538512 925799 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1385538532 958472 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : bah c" foo" +1 count 1 - type ; bah < 1385538533 352693 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ in file included from *OS command line*:-1 \ /tmp/input.21876:1: Undefined word \ : bah c" foo" >>>+1<<< count 1 - type ; bah \ Backtrace: \ $7FD3F0895A68 throw \ $7FD3F08ABC68 no.extensions \ $7FD3F08993A0 compiler-notfound1 < 1385538540 903455 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : bah c" foo" 1 + count 1 - type ; bah < 1385538541 418258 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo < 1385538545 276142 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1385538552 223612 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : bah c" foo" 1 + count 2 - type ; bah < 1385538552 690171 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo < 1385538557 218822 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-.- < 1385538585 6328 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is c""? < 1385538595 371351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a counted string. < 1385538631 936815 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A pointer to a Pascal-style (length, data) pair, instead of the (pointer-to-data, length) pair on the stack, like s". < 1385538653 939800 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1385538676 975115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do c" foo" 1+ count it's going to interpret the 'f' as the length. < 1385538712 701073 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : x c" foo" 1+ count . . ; x < 1385538713 447381 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :102 139824385598218 < 1385538825 399613 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1385538955 546792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : x c" ab" dup 10 0 do dup c@ . 1+ loop drop 1+ 10 type ; x < 1385538956 236678 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 97 98 32 32 32 32 32 0 78 ab < 1385538978 30932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "type" stops as the 0 there, even though it might not need to. < 1385539004 166038 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also not sure what's up with those spaces.) < 1385539067 173829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : x c" ab" dup 10 0 do dup c@ . 1+ loop drop 1+ 10 ." <" type ." >" ; x < 1385539067 911349 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 97 98 32 32 32 32 32 0 78 R 256 15 16 1799 4 13107 2 21845 R> 4 0 DO TUCK OVER AND -ROT INVERT AND ROT / + LOOP ; 12345 C < 1385543561 25798 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1385543567 228292 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.102.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : C >R 256 15 16 1799 4 13107 2 21845 R> 4 0 DO TUCK OVER AND -ROT INVERT AND ROT / + LOOP ; 12345 C . < 1385543567 937870 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 < 1385543591 627170 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.102.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth 175 C . < 1385543592 407927 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ in file included from *OS command line*:-1 \ /tmp/input.24099:1: Undefined word \ 175 >>>C<<< . \ Backtrace: \ $7FAC86EF5A68 throw \ $7FAC86F0BCE0 no.extensions \ $7FAC86EF5D28 interpreter-notfound1 < 1385543752 856593 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No persistence for you. < 1385543770 336206 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.102.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1385543798 803659 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.102.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : f 46. do dup 1 .r cr dup rot + loop ; 0 1 f < 1385543799 614490 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 \ 1 \ 2 \ 3 \ 5 \ 8 \ 13 \ 21 \ 34 \ 55 \ 89 \ 144 \ 233 \ 377 \ 610 \ 987 \ 1597 \ 2584 \ 4181 \ 6765 \ 10946 \ 17711 \ 28657 \ 46368 \ 75025 \ 121393 \ 196418 \ 317811 \ 514229 \ 832040 \ 1346269 \ 2178309 \ 3524578 \ 5702887 \ 9227465 \ 14930352 \ 24157817 \ 39088169 \ 63245986 \ 102334155 \ 165580141 \ 267914296 \ 433494437 \ 701408733 \ 1134903170 \ 1836311903 < 1385543858 290558 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.102.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The #forth channel should have this! < 1385543947 934401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, don't they have an eval-bot? < 1385543957 937738 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.102.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No :-( < 1385543975 656412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was kind of a standard feature. The channels I'm on (##c, #perl, #scheme) all do. < 1385545306 165710 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does .r do_ < 1385545789 892370 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prints a number with a given field width. < 1385545806 274797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that "1 .r" is pretty close to "." but maybe there's some subtle difference. < 1385545852 385835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : f 46. do dup . cr dup rot + loop ; 0 1 f < 1385545853 58511 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 \ 1 \ 2 \ 3 \ 5 \ 8 \ 13 \ 21 \ 34 \ 55 \ 89 \ 144 \ 233 \ 377 \ 610 \ 987 \ 1597 \ 2584 \ 4181 \ 6765 \ 10946 \ 17711 \ 28657 \ 46368 \ 75025 \ 121393 \ 196418 \ 317811 \ 514229 \ 832040 \ 1346269 \ 2178309 \ 3524578 \ 5702887 \ 9227465 \ 14930352 \ 24157817 \ 39088169 \ 63245986 \ 102334155 \ 165580141 \ 267914296 \ 433494437 \ 701408733 \ 1134903170 \ 1836311903 < 1385545863 160061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right, the automatic space. < 1385545907 529784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : f 46. do dup . dup rot + loop ; 0 1 f \ arguably better, though < 1385545908 145766 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 144 233 377 610 987 1597 2584 4181 6765 10946 17711 28657 46368 75025 121393 196418 317811 514229 832040 1346269 2178309 3524578 5702887 9227465 14930352 24157817 39088169 63245986 102334155 165580141 267914296 433494437 701408733 1134903170 1836311903 < 1385545973 581933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the "46." shorthand for "46 0". < 1385546008 863503 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole thing with "double precision" in Forth is kind of funny-weird. < 1385546026 862096 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :.1234, 12.34 and 1234. are all the same number, a two-cells-wide 1234. < 1385546093 107250 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth 0.1234 12.34 1234. d. d. d. \ okay, plain .1234 wasn't quite legal < 1385546093 894992 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1234 1234 1234 < 1385548521 207293 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are Imperial Measurements outdated? http://youtu.be/r7x-RGfd0Yk < 1385548941 365445 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm, my log database update script seems to have barfed at the recent string "\udead\ubeef". Apparently the UTF-8 encoder involved there is strict about standards, and refuses to UTF-8-encode that standalone trail surrogate. < 1385549124 671003 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1385549579 559230 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1385549629 438698 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1385549645 686188 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1385549746 59063 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1385549782 326189 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1385551250 296048 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1385552993 864804 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1385553162 780672 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@auth55-123.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1385553735 560392 :Taneb!9020800e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385554018 374053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385554894 946947 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dolan.naurunappula.com/screen/d5/f7/d5f7f404978714ec/0/787935.jpg < 1385556593 596774 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1385557101 131763 :Taneb!9020800e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.14 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1385557214 36395 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1385557279 886453 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1385557385 914184 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385557417 634215 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385557737 703170 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1385558008 725270 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rdvagxmmogqolavb QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1385558013 658193 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-syiatofevrwatjda QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1385558025 357409 :conehead!uid16140@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gwblbwlnmeyuigyq QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1385558606 202404 :conehead!uid16140@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qbtvfsvualdwnaza JOIN :#esoteric < 1385559007 168714 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mvexhvzhievxzwof JOIN :#esoteric < 1385559376 171887 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1385559376 751270 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 271300Z 04012KT 4SM -RA OVC005 01/00 A2951 RMK SF8 PRESFR SLP996 < 1385559397 413055 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1385560166 862050 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wwuwkojjauqfqddo JOIN :#esoteric < 1385560699 134291 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good sloshy morning! < 1385560762 807804 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I went through the Takis bag yesterday. I want moar. I'll have to scour downtown's groceries and dépanneurs under exécrable weather just to probably find some. < 1385560861 282743 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385560865 87910 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome L8D < 1385560870 206343 :HackEgo!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06L8D: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04irc.dal.net.) < 1385561040 572287 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what would a single ascius be? how many avoidupois ounces in an ascius? < 1385561224 127602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1385561305 908086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? copumpkin < 1385561307 502090 :HackEgo!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1385561338 375305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn copumpkin is categorically incapable of being president. < 1385561343 576148 :HackEgo!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1385561365 313043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a natural born citizen, i guess. < 1385561387 463211 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.162.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385561387 621339 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.162.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385561394 523595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn there's _another_ 3-letter nick clash? < 1385561458 912906 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: can you say something memorable, so that your quote-section won't be empty? < 1385561463 824555 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(same goes for impomatic) < 1385561476 198328 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote copumpkin: can you say something memorable, so that your quote-section won't be empty? < 1385561479 208457 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: who's nicklashing with whom? < 1385561480 387303 :HackEgo!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1138) copumpkin: can you say something memorable, so that your quote-section won't be empty? < 1385561530 104587 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs... “there we go agais523n...” < 1385561546 874374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro|nospoiler with copumpkin, myndzi with myname, tromp__ with trout (just found that), and i guess glogbot with glogbackup although they're not _supposed_ to be here at the same time and who speaks to them anyway. < 1385561558 309557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you can just delete it again < 1385561594 454899 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nah. I like it. < 1385561613 775160 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glogbot: hi there! :) < 1385561691 325017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trout is of course highly variable, and will sometimes clash with conehead instead. < 1385561692 14098 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :oerboily < 1385561696 194350 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.162.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1385561696 352415 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.162.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1385561719 857396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately i rarely have occasion to tab complete my own nick. < 1385561729 298309 :oerboily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. right. < 1385561745 893464 :oerboily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :fizboily < 1385561753 703411 :fizboily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, that should do it :D < 1385561754 187802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I /nick to a name just to be able to tab complete it < 1385561764 356434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, I've got into the awful habit of tab-completing on one letter < 1385561775 231992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because my client favours tab-completing whoever spoke most recently < 1385561780 368269 :fizboily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tab-completing on “f” is dangerous. < 1385561784 549251 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning it's normally right but I sometimes get tab-ninja'd < 1385561790 143509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizboily: yep. < 1385561806 632754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even "fi" is annoying. < 1385561868 628090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote copumpkin < 1385561868 785618 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin says: YOU ARE SUCH A PULLBACK YOU KNOW WHAT? I FUNCTORED YOUR MOTHER LAST NIGHT < 1385561883 258473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he says most of his memorabilia elsewhere. < 1385561893 220904 :fizboily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :boily < 1385561898 865676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote impomatic < 1385561899 23780 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. Do you think like you type? < 1385561950 596523 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is there an easy way to aggregate cucurbitaceæ into the PDF? < 1385561998 409037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have that, i've forgotten. < 1385562008 524426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cucumber < 1385562010 241231 :HackEgo!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cucumber? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1385562015 651872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1385562018 493618 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.102.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't said anything interesting to date... < 1385562031 913906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote * impomatic hasn't said anything interesting to date... < 1385562035 116044 :HackEgo!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1139) * impomatic hasn't said anything interesting to date... < 1385562037 149388 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1385562065 133087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on, you knew it had to happen. < 1385562074 442112 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adding it... < 1385562118 317231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: to aggregate cucurbitaceæ you need to exploit categorical duality. < 1385562282 930399 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1385562311 385819 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the impomatiquote was added, with a footnote *smirk* < 1385562672 439419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seem to have mostly stopped reading pdfs after getting the new laptop, because it no longer opens them inside IE. < 1385562716 218079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in fact opens them in metro hell. < 1385562748 874499 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs his fully pinguinized machine < 1385562947 928612 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1385562961 757997 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1385562995 834144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how's your flash doing? >:) < 1385563044 299119 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't know what you're talking about. la la la ♪ < 1385563082 202726 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385563113 648675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1385563131 968412 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1385563134 262671 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I probably went through all major bugs and misfires. the most memorable was on my home desktop, when nvidia drivers swapped the blue and red channels. < 1385563145 754638 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wow < 1385563191 373587 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.162.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385563610 943915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear they must have fixed it in 8.1 < 1385563725 614133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ENVA < 1385563726 98569 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 271420Z 27026KT 9999 FEW020 BKN046 07/02 Q1002 RMK WIND 670FT 30026G38KT < 1385563763 627671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one of those represent the storm i seem to be hearing outside the window < 1385563771 255328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*represents < 1385563811 164602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm weather forecast says breeze. < 1385563818 740077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is skeptical. < 1385564160 297643 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe "WIND" < 1385564173 846260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm you'd think. < 1385564181 471375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a _little_ unspecific, there. < 1385564299 879444 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have 26 knot winds going on, which is non-homeopatic. < 1385564309 182965 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue about that “670FT”. < 1385564337 30792 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm. a second wind group. I guess the storm hasn't come to ENVA yet. < 1385564402 127871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the yr.no weather forecast claimed a breeze, not a storm. dunno why it sounds so loud. < 1385564444 289111 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ultra hardcode Norwegian wind? < 1385564481 351480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 26 knots -> m/s < 1385564490 547582 :HackEgo!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6019/450 (approx. 13.375555555555556) < 1385564568 992302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok there's a warning about possible storm by the coast, perhaps it's got further inland than they expected. < 1385564657 91865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 26 * 1.852 < 1385564657 785687 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :48.152 < 1385564748 666571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 48.152 / 3.6 < 1385564749 426209 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13.375555555555556 < 1385564876 11442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a boring fungus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliona_viridis < 1385564887 58755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1385564889 990827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sponge < 1385564904 290353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh, brain, do i have to whack you upside the head < 1385565141 375183 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.162.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1385565336 89091 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: your head seems to be fille with Impure Brainfsck Derivative Thoughts. please apply brick and reboot. < 1385565342 739621 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/fille/filled/ < 1385565363 974950 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... “green boring sponge”??? < 1385565652 120854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i told you it was boring. < 1385565796 145824 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not Impure Fungeoid Derivative Thoughts? < 1385566100 87570 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm what happened with Magnus in the topic? < 1385567138 889060 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea for brainfuck < 1385567147 360824 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like brainfuck, but with a logarithmic scale . < 1385567175 565489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: he won hth < 1385567191 139603 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: http://esolangs.org/wiki/SELECT.? < 1385567208 447665 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, what happened to someone's continuous brainfuck idea? < 1385567226 964312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION had vaguely hoped for Shikhin to add a "Vishy!" or something. < 1385567247 286143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the way it ended, probably just as well he didn't. < 1385567320 169266 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck magnus < 1385567320 581768 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1385567324 908727 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck vishy < 1385567325 323939 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Viswanathan Anand (born 11 December 1969) is an Indian chess Grandmaster and former World Chess Champion. < 1385567331 920746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats metasepia -----### < 1385567353 617689 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eille! no violence against my peaceful bot! < 1385567359 258501 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mvexhvzhievxzwof QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1385567361 277058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT IT'S HIDEOUSLY BIASED < 1385567389 585633 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs his bot. “don't listen to angry magnus supporters.” < 1385567554 461799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also google translate thinks "eille" is finnish. < 1385567556 26907 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1385567603 828708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and means "MATCH", capitals required. < 1385567656 836308 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fr:eille → en:hey. < 1385567676 461686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY DOESN'T GOOGLE TRANSLATE KNOW THAT? < 1385567796 650664 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR THE SAME REASON FRENCH IS FRANCE FRENCH, AND ARMENIAN IS EASTERN ARMENIAN, AND CHINESE IS MANDARIN. < 1385567826 234652 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'd really like to have a Cantonese version. it'd be very useful in Montréal.) < 1385567900 176938 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the best would be simultaneous multiple languabe output. < 1385568197 9409 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't Mandarin and Cantonese spelled the same? < 1385568207 111232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so unless you were doing voice recognition, it make sense to merge them in a machine translator < 1385568327 500103 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the gramar and characters used are different. < 1385568398 708384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1385568543 530706 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1385568544 11100 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 271600Z 31009KT 8SM -SN OVC009 01/00 A2945 RMK SF8 /S01/ SLP976 < 1385568550 781730 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-SN indeed. < 1385568762 241560 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@auth55-123.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1385568778 549445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth 2 dummy . < 1385568779 176064 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1385569083 150317 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385570089 155921 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a Brainfuck Derivative based on the disecrete logarithm problem thingy < 1385570115 164634 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Knappsack Problem < 1385570178 537272 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385570222 299764 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: to base a language on an NP problem is vile and nasty. please implement. < 1385570528 994243 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about a travelling saleman language < 1385570533 687253 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That salesman sells integers < 1385570553 295437 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385570555 711562 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385570611 102559 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. < 1385570649 151150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you failed to mention Eodermdrome < 1385570986 190247 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fails to mention Eodermdrome < 1385571031 198701 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there are some 2^2^n problems < 1385571034 574279 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is pretty heinous < 1385571060 521136 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hitler if he was a complexity class < 1385571133 539221 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about O(ackermann). < 1385571181 608428 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall ackermann⁻¹ appearing in the complexity of some algorithms < 1385571196 993009 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but ackermann^-1 is pretty fucking soft < 1385571197 683389 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's "p. slow" < 1385571202 990671 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barely a step above O(1) < 1385571220 627747 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, log*(n) (iterated logarithm) < 1385571225 509307 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(fast growing * factorial * exponent * tetration * fuck you fuck you fuck you) < 1385571234 656460 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had a cancer growing at O(a^-1), I wouldn't even stop eating radium < 1385571245 691895 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike : Sure, but try finding such a problem! < 1385571259 95885 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such a problem *that doesn't have a less complex solution* < 1385571286 336631 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also my guess is that there's probably a cap on complexity < 1385571323 678467 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does radium taste like? < 1385571329 839970 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the complexity of finding every problem with ackermann complexity < 1385571331 687524 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1385571342 40120 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385571344 2340 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dagnabbit < 1385571493 100893 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the upper limit on complexity is impossibility. < 1385571560 259483 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALL_(complexity) < 1385571647 390756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: keep your limit down < 1385572925 382306 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but I meant more computational time-wise < 1385572955 375981 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'forever' is a time! < 1385573278 767202 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.162.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385573637 186384 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would ALL include undecidable decision problems? < 1385573735 654875 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. is the halting problem in ALL, or is it not classified as a decision problem despite having a boolean answer? < 1385573780 786061 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :halting problem is in RE < 1385573785 111244 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is a subset of ALL ofc) < 1385573835 738980 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1385573932 805154 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since if a program halts it takes finite time to demonstrate thath. < 1385573949 179058 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, ALL is a strict superset of RE, and so includes impossible problems. < 1385574084 506294 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not undefinable problems! < 1385574212 766782 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iunno. might as well put them in there too. < 1385574418 621205 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1385574431 243220 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefinable problems cannot be inputed in a Turing machines < 1385574456 45242 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though they can be in a SUPERTURING MACHINE < 1385574461 747903 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just use an undefinable machine. < 1385574472 713603 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a Turing machine with continuous cells < 1385574503 446852 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a Turing machine with infinite starting input < 1385574850 715448 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is EXPTIME considered unfeasable < 1385574868 842905 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ran some exptime programs < 1385574875 696628 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were mighty feasable < 1385574886 904356 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: isn't it just the greatest food invention ever? why did it take so long to get invented? < 1385574905 517515 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: because for realistically large problem sizes you're usuallyy fucked. < 1385574944 237939 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feasable isn't the same as "Fuck it's too big, let's give up < 1385574959 743711 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :twss < 1385575019 15648 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're giving up you're basically saying it's infeasible. < 1385575056 788056 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia has a good example of an exptime problem: figuring out perfect play from a given chess position is exponential in the size of the board. < 1385575078 676781 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and guess what, people actually don't compute perfect play in chess. < 1385575091 707940 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They might if they played on a 4x4 chess set! < 1385575111 577496 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't. < 1385575173 146815 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Chess Attack: played on a six-row five-column board, Chess Attack follows standard chess rules, and can be regarded as an endgame variant." < 1385575182 840568 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's only 30 cells! < 1385575213 384940 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know that was proven exptime...yes there are exp many games from a position, but i didn't know it had been proven that there wasn't some complicated heuristic that ended up being as good as perfect < 1385575229 852346 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'as good as perfect' is pretty hard. < 1385575241 804958 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: my mouth was burning with the force of a thousand limes. < 1385575247 682812 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "prove it doesn't exist" is also hard < 1385575278 43911 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://turbo.sos.gd/ < 1385575302 443158 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and i only sent the regular ones. they also have NITRO, which are the same but habanero based. < 1385575317 219126 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: i can prove that "while (1) {}" never halts but that doesn't make the halting problem feasible, you know? < 1385575371 710220 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yes, but you can always solve an EXP problem < 1385575376 416390 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has gained a new quest! “Find a bag of NITRO TAKIS”! < 1385575376 573996 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given sufficient time and space < 1385575377 418888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: doesn't it halt when someone interrupts it/ < 1385575382 8380 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not really comparable < 1385575394 93755 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do you ever sleep? < 1385575436 886798 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was last on here about 11 hours ago < 1385575450 777987 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you were here then < 1385575526 791731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: http://zem.fi/ircvis/esoteric/people_presence.html < 1385575571 901566 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you live in BIG SCOTLAND < 1385575574 714650 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/its-thanksgiving-so-we-asked-some-brits-to-label-the-us-stat?s=mobile < 1385575607 435667 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/its-thanksgiving-so-we-asked-some-brits-to-label-the-us-stat < 1385575638 357922 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bwah ah ah ah ah :D < 1385575650 321209 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a new one, Big Scotland. < 1385575717 615794 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: thanks < 1385575753 358536 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Canada is Big Scotland. Like, you know, very big. < 1385575757 802423 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: no < 1385575758 603365 :HackEgo!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1385575845 790360 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: what's the point of having 'feasible' mean 'possible'? < 1385576091 971999 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that's what it means? < 1385576101 207564 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'possible' could be said to mean that we can imagine some actor, possibly in a science-fiction novel, considering it feasible, while 'feasible' means that i can be that actor. < 1385576108 578274 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sharing the same root as french "faisable" < 1385576109 808480 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doable < 1385576109 966089 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does hackego actually say is he already has information about something? < 1385576120 382341 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck etymology < 1385576132 214993 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yes, but if you go by that < 1385576134 194889 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: i don't think `learn checks. < 1385576137 312948 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of them are feasable < 1385576143 833629 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polynomial can be unfeasable! < 1385576147 130304 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even O(1) < 1385576157 363250 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If O(1) is 10^100 < 1385576196 910537 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a particular O(1) algorithm might be infeasible but most of the ones we use aren't. < 1385576244 522721 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds a bit racist to judge a class from a few bad apples! < 1385576281 219443 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/a few bad apples/the majority of the bunch/ < 1385576345 488633 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So racist < 1385576367 29744 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know you're joking and all but don't trivialize racism, please. < 1385576367 760465 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION colle des pommes sur Slereah < 1385576406 903051 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :feasibility is an informal concept. it is what it is. < 1385576428 802615 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the golden pommes de soleil or ... the silver pommes de la lune? < 1385576431 751207 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best program is O(0) < 1385576454 985260 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: all Unnecessary programs are O(0)! < 1385576478 189394 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they exist < 1385576482 54128 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well there's only one O(0) program < 1385576483 326969 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*don't exist < 1385576484 890546 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The empty program! < 1385576490 109302 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'd go with a golden apple. you know, something something kallisti something... < 1385576495 964757 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although < 1385576502 751273 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure O(0) makes sense < 1385576519 903969 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since O(f) is O(f)/f ~> 1 < 1385576529 478439 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? < 1385576530 839326 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget < 1385576556 208320 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1385576594 156394 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[f(x) = O(g(x)) if and only if there is a positive constant M such that for all sufficiently large values of x, f(x) is at most M multiplied by g(x) in absolute value." < 1385576605 803260 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an annoying definition i can never remember < 1385576644 11649 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this implies that if f = O(0) then f is 0, probably. < 1385576649 693576 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess O(0) makes sense for the empty program then < 1385576655 146818 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite. < 1385576721 984693 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(0 + i) < 1385576801 354622 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiply the Ms of an O(1) by -i, and voila. < 1385576863 931542 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the computational classes machine dependant? < 1385576867 775671 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speed-wise < 1385576883 410911 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall that some algorithms are faster in certain paradigm < 1385576906 568989 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what oracles are for, probably. < 1385576962 560460 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean within the TC class of computers < 1385576995 454985 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like, say for ripple-carry addition, you say it's linear in the number of digits; that basically means that the time is a linear function of how much an operation taken as primitive (adding digits) takes < 1385577057 306880 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1385577290 851674 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: isn't eris the moon goddess? < 1385577295 456571 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1385577297 673849 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's selene < 1385577306 824929 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do i associate eris with the moon somehow? < 1385577361 946472 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that implies that O(0) and O(1) mean the same thing :) < 1385577380 118842 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT WE KNEW WHAT SLEREAH MEANT < 1385577441 173720 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1385577458 622950 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematical question < 1385577472 935682 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :psychological answer. < 1385577485 27477 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i have a function f: A x P(A) - > R < 1385577495 690367 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is f(.,A)? < 1385577517 499695 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is P()? < 1385577520 791316 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :powerset? < 1385577527 208764 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1385577552 72173 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and . means plug in the whole set? < 1385577572 222035 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh i don't know. but it's still a function into the reals < 1385577576 943276 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is my question < 1385577592 196860 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :P(A) means you had issues with your mother when you were young. < 1385577633 423476 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have never seen f(. in any way < 1385577737 541503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I've seen people use - as an implicit lambda variable < 1385577745 611767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, f(_,A) means \x.f(x,A) < 1385577799 38043 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it says it should be a vector < 1385577828 341461 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(.,A) that is < 1385578009 338537 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: what do you mean? it depends what f and A are. for example if A is the empty set then it's the empty function. < 1385578041 536706 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think myname is asking about notation. < 1385578155 308704 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah presumably that's a lambda variable < 1385578183 232761 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds strange in this context, but i will take it for now < 1385578574 962810 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1385578590 943015 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1385578677 986289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Sometimes people even use two -s! It's great. < 1385578724 732522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in Hom(f(-),-) ~ Hom(-,g(-)) < 1385578812 749140 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385578859 562680 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I refuse you adjunction. < 1385578868 17173 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION still doesn't understand adjunctions. :( < 1385578883 910624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I only understand them from the axioms, and intuitively < 1385578885 269635 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don'2 get the advantage of saying "f(.,A) is in the core" instead of "for every x in A, f(x,A) is in the core" < 1385578888 384920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get the in-between bits < 1385578919 229861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, in a closed category, you have (A×B)=>C === A=>(B=>C) < 1385578926 745862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the main interesting point < 1385578962 54860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main interesting thing you can do in a closed category is to tensor morphisms backwards < 1385579738 685678 :tertu!~tertu@rrcs-67-52-30-254.west.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1385579816 376245 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385579883 241501 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1385580005 729627 :tertu!~tertu@rrcs-67-52-30-254.west.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1385580150 403152 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1385580464 483636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, that's usually the definition of =>. < 1385580495 333192 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note that the two =>s on the right side aren't the same thing.) < 1385580510 137064 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1385580606 684613 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YLy4j8EZIk < 1385580775 600356 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that video will be at home watched. < 1385581058 873465 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes they are < 1385581062 112923 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn34-012.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1385581067 449976 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the definition on objects < 1385581075 217163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a definition on morphisms too but it's more complex < 1385581240 212304 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(->) -> (->) => >>> -> => -> >>> × >>> -> => -> >>> => (->) -> (->) < 1385581264 329619 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1385581295 69711 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :morphism art. < 1385581302 511979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what you mean. < 1385581337 112896 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-134.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385581338 964705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I do understand, actually, will look again in a little while. < 1385582446 575213 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1385583821 22599 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1385584142 361331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :scarf < 1385584350 973183 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1385584454 701498 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are you named after a train? someone in another channel just said that the train they were on wasn't fizzie < 1385584562 949620 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1385584607 914662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: I am not named after a train. But that sounds curious. < 1385584631 5839 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 820 < 1385584632 311469 :HackEgo!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :820) I am a train. There's a wireless network in the train! < 1385584644 624389 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they just referenced HackEgo quote 820 < 1385584647 276790 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, hmm < 1385584658 458545 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be following this channel for some reason < 1385584661 981006 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other people can HackEgo? < 1385584664 724184 :Oj742!~Oj742@c-71-59-199-75.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385584666 785909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Uh. Strange. < 1385584668 624702 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Oj742 < 1385584671 7678 :HackEgo!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13Oj742: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.) < 1385584685 881368 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: why on fungot would people want to follow the chännel... < 1385584686 112795 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: which includes themselves. if they were fnord. amazing restaurant. even the wrong bits be painted as a string? examples that i have < 1385584702 776490 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I tried googling for "fizzie train" but mostly got "Fizzie Vixen"'s Vine stuff. < 1385584714 708709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :traaaaain! < 1385584717 93526 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's not me.) < 1385584721 234913 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like trains. < 1385584727 293988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION too < 1385584756 250400 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1385584780 556876 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fungot. I just understood fizzie's pectopah. < 1385584780 774042 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i use a combination of ( for the bytecode compiler could work well < 1385584807 412806 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'll let that unbalanced ( slip this time, you vile unkarmic bot. < 1385584807 654811 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and my debugging usually revolves around ( define low-level in terms of s-expressions ( i don't expect you to go to a public school? remind me not to < 1385584819 933299 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you're stretching your luck too far, young'un. < 1385584820 91520 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i can't believe i said that < 1385584826 284633 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: me neither. < 1385585020 998753 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1385585063 163254 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember what 476 is about at all. < 1385585089 806134 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 476 < 1385585091 659170 :HackEgo!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :476) I think it's fizzie against everyone atm AND EVERYONE IS WINNING EXCEPT FIZZIE < 1385585109 749121 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was a race to make you not remember itself < 1385585205 829572 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you know? < 1385585226 697060 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.38 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not < 1385585230 350044 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.38 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the other Taneb < 1385585241 274940 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, the usual explanation. < 1385585243 656256 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other taneb?? < 1385585252 477031 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.38 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know... < 1385585255 575955 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one who Taneb is not. mystery explained. < 1385585255 733735 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.38 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ngevd < 1385585280 476065 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.38 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?people who taneb is not < 1385585281 789343 :HackEgo!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?people: not found < 1385585284 996161 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.38 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people who taneb is not < 1385585287 187541 :HackEgo!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond < 1385585299 573600 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't help but notice a lack of ngevd < 1385585327 734406 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs AND EVERYONE IS WINNING < 1385585339 790360 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to have been a #esoteric-minecraft quote. < 1385585356 537194 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, shit. < 1385585366 332080 :HackEgo!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.1861 < 1385585386 380316 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :About a dorf furtress game. < 1385585396 548357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which I guess there's a convention to name folks after #esotericers? < 1385585401 26677 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you 'win' dorf furtressx < 1385585426 950010 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I didn't add any new newlines to @run or change the space handling, all I did was increase a constant. I didn't touch the code, though I considered it. https://github.com/int-e/lambdabot/commits/master is up-to-date except for the 200 -> 350 change in lambdabot-core/src/Lambdabot/OutputFilter.hs (textwidth). < 1385585427 108134 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1385585496 235662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : Taneb: Who is on a rampage currently? Just fizzie He's a mason < 1385585512 94289 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn34-012.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1385585518 714058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : What do you call a dorf with no nose? fizzie? Yup < 1385585523 181044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes reading stuff feels kinda weird. < 1385585528 740605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I do have a nose.) < 1385585536 95397 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you really < 1385585538 467600 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where'd you get it < 1385585544 286187 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.38 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I presume you're not a dorf, too < 1385585548 725951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It came with the face. < 1385585555 961492 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.38 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of dwarf fortress < 1385585562 598403 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.38 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Phantom_Hoover ... < 1385585562 756672 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1385585893 514121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pegnose fizzie < 1385586236 648175 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck pegnose < 1385586237 8684 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1385586467 557456 :oklopol!~oklopol@201-246-91-75.baf.movistar.cl JOIN :#esoteric < 1385586921 993779 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? befunge < 1385586923 698409 :HackEgo!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1385586962 514709 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :: SUM ( + SIZE 1 EQUAL NOT ) WHILE ; 10 RANGE SUM . < 1385587001 201725 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or: : sum ( + size 1 = ! ) while ; 10 range sum . < 1385587055 765051 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : SUM ( + SIZE 1 EQUAL NOT ) WHILE ; 10 RANGE SUM . < 1385587057 67636 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ in file included from *OS command line*:-1 \ /tmp/input.3307:1: expected control flow stack item \ : SUM ( + SIZE 1 EQUAL NOT ) >>>WHILE<<< ; 10 RANGE SUM . \ Backtrace: \ $7FBF20466988 throw \ $7FBF20476918 c(abort") \ $7FBF20476AC8 cs-item? \ $7FBF20477440 CS-ROLL < 1385587255 634851 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably that's the suggested Forthoid, and not actual Forth. < 1385587264 855883 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : sum 0 begin over while + repeat ; 0 1 5 2 4 3 sum . \ sum of a 0-terminated list < 1385587265 655965 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 < 1385587432 361239 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-163-220.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385587435 702581 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1385587439 914676 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-163-220.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1385587458 279521 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-163-220.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385587577 179960 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1385587579 411416 :HackEgo!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 atriq Bike boily cuttlefish elliott fgrep Fiora fungot HackEgo metasepia mnoqy monqy Ngevd nortti oklopol Phantom_Hoover Phantom__Hoover pikhq quintopia Roujo Sgeo SgeoBot shikhin SUPREME_BUTT_SUI Taneb < 1385587591 919054 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.38 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah < 1385587598 770402 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-5.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1385587598 928235 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry. couldn't resist. < 1385587706 977026 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-163-220.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1385587902 854199 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: (APPLY CHICKEN '(CHICKEN CHICKEN)) < 1385587905 25276 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1385588239 33558 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I'm happy I'm not on the List < 1385588643 723358 :muskrat_!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-223.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385588850 379297 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-134.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1385589155 833417 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1385589298 64615 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thing I like: when someone writes a long S-expression in Scheme (or other such), and needs to put some two dozen )s after the last non-) character, and decides to put them like http://sprunge.us/INhI < 1385589355 714580 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1385589381 176966 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've seen that happen a total of one time.) < 1385589463 776826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1385589800 718909 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1385591152 236840 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.38 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When someone writes "CRINGE" on IRC you know it's a pun well done < 1385591263 595796 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.102.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : i begin #tib @ >in @ = if tib 50 accept #tib ! 0 >in ! then bl word find dup if state @ = if , else execute then else dup rot count >number if state @ if last @ dup @ last ! dp ! then abort then drop2 state @ if ['] lit , , then then again ; i | 2 2 + . < 1385591264 306500 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ in file included from *OS command line*:-1 \ /tmp/input.3951:1: Undefined word \ : i begin #tib @ >in @ = if tib 50 accept #tib ! 0 >in ! then bl word find dup if state @ = if , else execute then else dup rot count >number if state @ if last @ dup @ last ! dp ! then abort then >>>drop2<<< state @ if ['] lit , , then then again ; i | 2 2 + . \ Backtrace: \ $7F226ACC9A68 throw \ $7F226ACDFC68 no.extensions < 1385591279 808054 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.102.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth : int begin #tib @ >in @ = if tib 50 accept #tib ! 0 >in ! then bl word find dup if state @ = if , else execute then else dup rot count >number if state @ if last @ dup @ last ! dp ! then abort then drop2 state @ if ['] lit , , then then again ; int | 2 2 + . < 1385591280 685497 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ in file included from *OS command line*:-1 \ /tmp/input.3997:1: Undefined word \ : int begin #tib @ >in @ = if tib 50 accept #tib ! 0 >in ! then bl word find dup if state @ = if , else execute then else dup rot count >number if state @ if last @ dup @ last ! dp ! then abort then >>>drop2<<< state @ if ['] lit , , then then again ; int | 2 2 + . \ Backtrace: \ $7FCE3F9ADA68 throw \ $7FCE3F9C3C68 no.extensions < 1385591325 266119 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-163-220.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1385591436 238017 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-183.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385591776 113902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1385591800 886439 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1385591807 145560 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385591900 321932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice of the storm to fully hit just as i was going back home < 1385591917 561655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/ampdE1n.gif < 1385591959 740608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lost < 1385591959 898882 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 1h 48m 52s ago: I didn't add any new newlines to @run or change the space handling, all I did was increase a constant. I didn't touch the code, though I considered it. https://github.com/int-e/lambdabot/commits/master is up-to-date except for the 200 -> 350 change in lambdabot-core/src/Lambdabot/OutputFilter.hs (textwidth). < 1385592014 745875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e i guess it was done before your time then. < 1385592014 903515 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1385592027 512665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks suspiciously at elliott  < 1385592028 874146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1385592029 31725 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1385592045 845906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: might also look suspiciously at mokus < 1385592068 360307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is mok < 1385592074 122131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mokus < 1385592088 476983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi's tab completion, so primitive < 1385592106 129865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannot take me trying to tab complete someone not here. or its own name. < 1385592160 156430 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maintainer: James Cook < 1385592178 393866 :muskrat_!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-223.psoas.suomi.net NICK :muskrat < 1385592229 873404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1385592254 343645 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you asked who mokus is. < 1385592340 166065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that somewhere in lambdabot's code. < 1385592352 966482 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at the .cabal file < 1385592384 765991 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mokus0/lambdabot/blob/master/lambdabot/lambdabot.cabal < 1385592397 883967 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or http://hackage.haskell.org/package/lambdabot :) < 1385592408 925089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.deepbondi.net/ looks promising. < 1385592431 762661 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-53-60.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1385592470 124 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-53-60.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1385592470 157622 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1385592554 966644 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-223.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1385592581 27167 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385593070 720724 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-183.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1385593079 919968 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-183.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1385593356 287753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell slereah Why is EXPTIME considered unfeasable <-- "For every polynomial-time algorithm you have, there is an exponential algorithm that I would rather run." -- Alan Perlis < 1385593356 482776 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1385593380 974752 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-183.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :---------[--------- < 1385593428 310785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you removing tabs in brainfuck < 1385593508 321690 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh. +[,>+<---------[>-]>[<+++++++++.>->]<<] < 1385593556 123362 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :]+] < 1385593557 496131 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably messed that up, I'm out of practice. < 1385593654 827121 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should simply do +[,---------[+++++++++.[-]]+] < 1385593729 108178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you're not halting at eof < 1385593759 630736 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so which eof convention do you favor? < 1385593780 842764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@poll-results olist < 1385593781 476 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poll results for olist (Open): update=932 < 1385593781 258513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 usually, since that's what the bots around here use < 1385593802 523229 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i just realized that @vote won't show the list of names anyway, so you still need to @poll-results < 1385593805 747122 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ,[---------[+++++++++.[-]],] < 1385593830 561482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd work < 1385593879 945037 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-183.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, how's the middle loop ever halt < 1385593894 997448 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-183.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or. wait. nevermind. < 1385594412 553784 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1385594420 928876 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1385595227 531201 :oklopol!~oklopol@201-246-91-75.baf.movistar.cl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't understand that quote < 1385595242 789151 :oklopol!~oklopol@201-246-91-75.baf.movistar.cl PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i read that as alan turing < 1385595253 662557 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perlis -> Turing < 1385595303 714944 :oklopol!~oklopol@201-246-91-75.baf.movistar.cl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that that it changes anything) < 1385595307 479051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perling < 1385595316 907857 :oklopol!~oklopol@201-246-91-75.baf.movistar.cl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*not) < 1385595343 766554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it means that the formal complexity class of an algorithm may not mean much in practice. < 1385595354 206619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :example: simplex method < 1385595393 71272 :oklopol!~oklopol@201-246-91-75.baf.movistar.cl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah okay i guess it changes things if it was someone who lived much after turing < 1385595413 259376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that constant overhead may be more important than O() class for problem sizes you actually care about < 1385595425 68831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's how read it. < 1385595429 298546 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1385595438 382255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one remarkable thing about EXPTIME is that it's actually known to be different from P < 1385595439 551572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*\i < 1385595442 324048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-\ < 1385595480 233093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not _that_ remarkable, time and space hierarchies are pretty fine masked _separately_. < 1385595491 764512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1385595499 492130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just hard to compare time with space. < 1385595501 141672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :saying it's remarkable is somewhat tongue-in-cheek < 1385595519 944598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :given all the classes which aren't known to be distinct from P < 1385595523 135262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :time with space, or deterministic with nondeterministic < 1385595534 88502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait can you say "fine masked" in english < 1385595544 630324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not familiar with that phrase < 1385595548 878868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatsit mean < 1385595606 211138 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there are the classes for quantum computers < 1385595611 601312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gt suggests "meshed" < 1385595704 842572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe fine mesh < 1385595797 960460 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-183.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still not familiar with this idiom < 1385595842 574544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finely divided < 1385595868 766448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that has to be actual english. < 1385595871 718666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :please? < 1385595904 85359 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-183.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i'm just thick. < 1385595963 479222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :next try "fine-grained" < 1385596105 570411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: yeah, P ?= BQP ?= NP is real important < 1385596171 274717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it would be funny if someone found out a way to simulate quantum systems efficiently with classical computers, and as a side effect broke RSA < 1385596185 165378 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Love #StackOverflow? Want it for your team? Check out http://quandora.com" ok you can't just take the name "Quora" and stick a few more letters in the middle < 1385596206 313565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be funny < 1385596224 530315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be funny to get a totally non-constructive proof of P = NP < 1385596230 293534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quwhynotora < 1385596249 644786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too < 1385596268 341658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a proof which produces a polynomial-time algorithm which is way too slow to ever use, and which resists improvement < 1385596278 331276 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a proof that P ?= NP is independent of the axioms of ZFC < 1385596318 603211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the point is that kmc likes to frustrate mathematicians < 1385596338 420115 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-183.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :five worlds etc < 1385596346 905909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about an algorithm for SAT that seems to work extremely fast but which no one can prove that it always works < 1385596362 943091 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-183.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, a good paper < 1385596373 269008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a good paper < 1385596394 541394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should read it once, i guess it has all those options. < 1385596407 705166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, are you referring to http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/FiveWorlds.html or http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Five_Worlds < 1385596417 373268 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-183.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1385596420 75483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(have found the actual paper but i like that those two links were first) < 1385596426 469716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i vaguely suspect not the latter < 1385596439 199947 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about a proof that P > NP? < 1385596441 644466 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be weird < 1385596463 850951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: well then you're just breaking mathematics < 1385596464 698515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, well, i vaguely suspect not you < 1385596495 281771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :P <= NP is pretty trivial. < 1385596514 637899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(all P turing machines are also NP turing machines) < 1385596593 814324 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1385596676 895922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :likewise P <= BPP <= NP because a BPP machine is like a NP machine but it has to accept on "lots of paths" not just one < 1385596708 15581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we did an exercise about the class BPP^NP which my friend decided means "Black Panther Party with NP oracle" < 1385596720 823153 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-183.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :puttin that in my next sci-fi epic < 1385596763 995066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is BPP <= NP really obvious < 1385596787 15524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NP doesn't allow you to count paths