< 1382141013 169648 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The parallelization machinery involves setting the output path to something with 322 characters. < 1382141194 830937 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly 322 eh < 1382141233 665498 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :static char scriptBuf[256]; /* buffer for current script arg */ < 1382141237 47134 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ye-ah. < 1382141243 463983 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : scriptBuf[i++] = ch; /* #### ge: should check for overflow of scriptBuf */ < 1382141248 744845 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't say? < 1382141263 292496 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey, a classic buffer overflow? < 1382141266 991649 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo do some privilege escalatin < 1382141273 786309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From myself to myself? < 1382141288 405515 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.133.20 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382141307 523505 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :To whoever wrote this code so you can make their computer cuss at them when it boots up, obviously < 1382141595 20471 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if "ge:" indicates a person. < 1382142368 767763 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1382142450 338998 :Uguubee111117!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382142862 548859 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382142905 964671 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382143186 657864 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:2c60:df80:ef0:5f09 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382143235 443658 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382143258 926220 :Uguubee111117!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382143441 977765 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382143448 191751 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382143448 337028 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Changing host < 1382143448 337171 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382143804 191211 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1382143959 683153 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382144156 123262 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382144156 268835 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Changing host < 1382144156 268974 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382144596 246529 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1382144645 744097 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382144955 315876 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1382145043 191346 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382145043 336850 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Changing host < 1382145043 337058 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382145358 875494 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-175.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382145676 590106 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382145744 598546 :Guest9281!zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382146268 387883 :Guest9281!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382146344 603699 :Zuu_!~zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382146461 87547 :Zuu_!~zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1382146611 772934 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@154.5.185.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382146636 446274 :Zuu_!zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382146976 544655 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@154.5.185.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382147225 400756 :Zuu_!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382147461 305923 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382147709 482564 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:2c60:df80:ef0:5f09 QUIT :Quit: Ping timeout: 1337 seconds < 1382147775 283371 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382147836 317695 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382148243 764055 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-175.psoas.suomi.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1382148580 350985 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1382148714 66842 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382148986 361611 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1382149062 161198 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382149153 191647 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-157.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382149212 18164 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT : < 1382149408 985389 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-157.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1382149411 150210 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382149509 686437 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382149524 689528 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382149571 365316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1382149698 863957 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now in Dungeons&Dragons game my familiar grants +3 bonus to my Swim skill if the distance between them does not exceed one mile. < 1382149704 442226 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1382149704 587624 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc said 2d 4h 54m 53s ago: gcc 4.7.2 doesn't warn me about "if ((x == 4) && (y = 0))" being always false, even with -Wall -Wextra -O3 < 1382149738 133863 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: O, too bad. Well, I suppose that's OK; such a warning isn't really a requirement. < 1382149800 691341 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382149923 992816 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define equals == < 1382150041 291608 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/ibogost/status/391390862061891584/photo/1/large who's ready for this < 1382150075 373263 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382150085 673115 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382150462 919836 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382150737 850617 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382150746 732738 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: since I'm too lazy to read a blog post right now: How does Qoppa/Kernel handle mapping a non-applicative operative onto a list? < 1382150769 153573 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382150820 498385 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure kernel signals an error. < 1382150858 40682 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1382150889 708435 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking that, however Racket calls Qoppa functions, it could probably just behave similarly < 1382150912 757805 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since there are similar issues involved with trying to get operatives to work in higher-order situations < 1382150931 386684 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, well, kernel says it takes an applicative, which is mostly the same. < 1382151002 478477 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would Kernel's map be able to tell the difference between applicative operatives and non-applicative operatives? < 1382151013 14591 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean combiners? < 1382151015 195126 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, ... meant Qoppa, but you didn't say Qoppa, so n/m < 1382151021 146813 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. dunno. < 1382151059 479427 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The clear solution here is to avoid the unwrap. Just have map do (eval (cons combiner args) ...). it's manly. < 1382151586 123960 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382151678 868968 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382151953 934334 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382152325 757524 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382152571 705897 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382152602 121702 :Uguubee111117!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382152658 171278 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382152764 930773 :Uguubee111117!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382153011 118564 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382153405 315467 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382153701 727113 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382153746 164346 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382154409 146675 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1382154521 134540 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382154536 119163 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382154728 498764 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@154.5.185.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1382154861 130099 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382155283 164271 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382155647 620061 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382155668 128692 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382156411 126879 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382156422 166006 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382156613 506565 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this kind of familiar? < 1382156711 126463 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382156790 159982 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382156970 817530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some computers have media playback controls on the keyboard, but I want them on the pedals, I think it would be more useful that way, isn't it? < 1382156992 362955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: for qoppa the answer is "poorly" < 1382156996 299095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in kernel it's a type error, i think < 1382156997 399098 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :'the' pedals, huh < 1382157005 613963 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because applicatives and operatives are distinguished < 1382157022 652802 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well, at least I kind of understand a reason for applicatives not being just operatives in Kernel now < 1382157031 558776 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you just said it < 1382157170 147176 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382157207 726989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's time for me to learn about wavelet trees for real < 1382157224 302267 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, one of shutt's big concerns was dealing with the (lambda (x) (x y)) problem. < 1382157260 974755 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never actually read the paper... and it was a while since I read the spec < 1382157301 108434 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm, if anyone's around tomorrow remind me to seriously work on my implementation. < 1382157404 472079 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of? < 1382157411 116025 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382157441 720493 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"kernel" < 1382157444 434963 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1382157451 637228 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll have to find another obscure greek letter < 1382157467 744846 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now i mostly name it with curses and pink floyd names < 1382157514 636628 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or use other alphabets < 1382157540 446357 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's either that or.... an esolang (!!!!) < 1382157711 120624 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382157777 170688 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382158086 122822 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382158145 210851 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382158453 268671 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still need to try to read SRFI-72 < 1382158502 187687 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382158526 119227 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382158547 565008 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382159461 125775 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382159835 826203 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1382160153 160329 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382160206 342354 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1382160457 372499 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382160463 173346 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382161011 121651 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382161098 178770 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1382161131 162478 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382161423 400813 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "SRFI-72" mean? < 1382161461 128801 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382161480 160925 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382161576 593565 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme request for implementation #72 < 1382161718 357368 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brother told me to make up a trainer card for the Pokemon card game, with the effect "The trash can is empty." and then see if some people make up different interpretation for it. I did make up some interpretation for it, like I did for "Goblins cannot reach Nirvana." in Magic: the Gathering (on a global enchantment card named "Nirvana"). Do you? < 1382161861 202665 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382161878 409354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you interpret these effects? < 1382161923 157505 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382162230 183560 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382162285 806903 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382162521 991810 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382162836 117763 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382163211 221882 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382163290 710541 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 43 < 1382163297 404154 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 43: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1382163369 332113 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? This is when we summon the familiar, figure out the ring, store the books and curtain in a spare room, and a few other things. < 1382163661 136236 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382163677 151720 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382163874 820483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wow just saw the code for 1-indexed arrays in C < 1382163933 210324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I blame MATLAB for that < 1382164001 381881 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382164032 716743 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382164032 862162 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Changing host < 1382164032 862296 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382164042 714673 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of code for 1-indexed arrays in C did you see? < 1382164182 426837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : somefunction(float *data) { ... float *fp = data-1; for (i=1;i<=nframes;i++) ... fp[i] ... } I honestly thought the "let's make 1-indexed arrays by pointing pointers one before the start" thing was an urban legend or something. < 1382164246 814219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O no I have done it too actually, but rarely. < 1382164271 323135 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you do it? < 1382164282 26577 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not remember. < 1382164290 208506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: isn't it undefined behavior? < 1382164305 266666 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On some computers it is, but on most computers it works. < 1382164315 719848 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382164317 402875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on all computers it's undefined behavior :< < 1382164325 671499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ok < 1382164425 158844 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382164538 130246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what do you think about the fact that in C, char can be either signed or unsigned < 1382164582 972272 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think it can be dealt with; some functions always treat it as unsigned anyways. < 1382164736 128615 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382164750 151283 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382164764 574025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Since some functions always treat it as unsigned, it can be used to sort big-endian numbers, for example.) < 1382164846 862656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int counts[256]; void count(char *p) { for (; *p; p++) counts[*p]++; } < 1382164848 857708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :best vuln ever < 1382164879 382129 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think GCC might warn if you do that; I think I saw such a warning once. < 1382164888 218871 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it warns about char as an array index < 1382164902 637238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's fun to write an exploit for such a vuln < 1382164953 829102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was the occasion on which I had to write shellcode where 2 out of every 4 bytes are 00 00 < 1382164962 922407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or code to jump to shellcode anyway < 1382165086 145336 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382165089 530671 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still can't figure out how to write a complete main() in ascii < 1382165103 875239 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both ret and syscall are non-printable < 1382165265 881356 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1382165339 926190 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When writing codes that can take untrusted input into higher privilege codes I am always being much more careful than that. < 1382165394 216391 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'const char main[] = "AXAYAZA[A\\ATX-pppp-0```- ///P^VTXH10XP4>40PZ414>P_\x0f\x05XATASARAQAP\xc3Hello, world!\n";' > hello.c && cat hello.c < 1382165398 527739 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :const char main[] = "AXAYAZA[A\ATX-pppp-0```- ///P^VTXH10XP4>40PZ414>P_XATASARAQAPÃHello, world! \ "; < 1382165414 66424 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run gcc hello.c -o hello && ./hello < 1382165416 723251 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello.c:1:21: warning: missing terminating " character \ hello.c:1: error: missing terminating " character \ hello.c:2:1: warning: missing terminating " character \ hello.c:2: error: missing terminating " character \ hello.c:2: error: expected expression at end of input < 1382165450 676302 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet Quiz Engine is one such program; it has no buffer overflows because it has no buffers; everything is done one at a time. It doesn't allocate memory dynamically either. Other things are also done to improve the security; IQE isn't Turing complete, and the upload service performs some checks on it too. < 1382165455 87635 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run gcc hello.c -o hello && ./hello < 1382165463 589015 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1382165565 789473 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there is also the operating system security to avoid a few things in case something else goes wrong. < 1382165595 692218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well on AMD64 Linux there are SYSCALL instructions in known locations, specifically within the legacy vsyscall page < 1382165606 569036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the addresses are not ASCII but you can probably compute them < 1382165615 274787 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1382165627 200800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other solution would be self-modifying code but rwx pages are hard to come by these days < 1382165710 697127 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run readelf -e hello | fgrep -A1 .plt < 1382165712 378420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have sometimes used a few self-modifying codes. < 1382165713 199298 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ [11] .rela.plt RELA 0000000000400358 00000358 \ 0000000000000018 0000000000000018 A 6 13 8 \ -- \ [13] .plt PROGBITS 0000000000400388 00000388 \ 0000000000000020 0000000000000010 AX 0 0 4 \ -- \ [24] .got.plt PROGBITS 0000000000600860 < 1382165731 190782 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382165757 140678 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382165778 867287 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Linux have anything like DOS .COM programs? < 1382165829 46774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the simplest executable format that Linux supports natively is a.out < 1382165879 28091 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the format really named a.out < 1382165881 948737 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it is) < 1382165919 290603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably make a binfmt_misc rule that runs any file marked executable as raw machine code < 1382165922 323515 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be fun < 1382165960 6649 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Run any file marked executable as shell script < 1382166023 790444 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, DOS .COM involves the operating system setting up some things automatically and then it just executes the program loaded in the allocated segment. Very simple and reasonable. < 1382166062 317105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have once written a file called PALETTE.COM which takes a drive letter on the command-line parameter and an octal number, and uses that to program the colors of the screen. < 1382166095 958317 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Parsing drive letters and file specifications is one thing DOS will automatically do when loading .COM programs.) < 1382166210 258703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have once looked at a BASIC compiler into .COM; it has some unusual features, one is that it completely ignores parentheses (and treats them as spaces), which can cause many problems. < 1382166377 307441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite an unusual feature indeed < 1382166386 123395 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382166394 442867 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1382166414 336911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one might even go so far as to call it a bug < 1382166414 891390 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it also ignored commas in the same way. < 1382166495 127656 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382166525 409561 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This includes parentheses and commas for function calls, and since some function calls can take varying number of arguments, it can cause ambiguities. < 1382166705 520040 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a mathematical description I wrote yesterday, I used a type I called "enum", which means a set of unique values deriving Eq (and only Eq). And then the value of that type is used as a type, too (for example: F : enum; V : enum: C : F -> set V; ...). Is there something similar in any version of Haskell? < 1382166761 114779 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382166871 160860 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382166876 625825 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I was writing a mathematical description of a puzzle game. A problem is defined as (F : enum, V : enum, C : F -> set V, N_F : F -> nat, N_V : V -> nat), and a solution to a problem is (S : V -> nat) where forall x in V. S(X) <= N_V(x), and forall f in F. N_F(f) = sum of S(x) for x in C(f). < 1382166896 684793 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this system have a name already? < 1382166992 347092 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know anything about this? I defined it as a generalization of a different game from some book. < 1382167111 126810 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382167168 200270 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you able to figure this out? < 1382167174 189189 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382167181 483000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think you can indeed blame MATLAB, I'm sure that's where the developers got the habit of 1-based indexing. < 1382167230 439717 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It isn't only MATLAB that uses 1-based indexing, though. BASIC can use whatever numbers you want for indexing. < 1382167282 986109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think I saw a binfmt_misc for ".com-like" programs. < 1382167356 981926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so can perl < 1382167411 786137 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: OK. (I am not so good at Perl) < 1382167421 511215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all true, but there's a statistical likelihood of HTK developers being MATLAB users. (Could be wrong.) < 1382167445 450387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl's array index base modifier is common for all arrays, though. < 1382167475 994808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :BASIC (and maybe Pascal?) can specify dimensions per-array, IIRC. < 1382167481 549102 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1382167486 146783 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382167503 259763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That isn't so good. BASIC defines it individually per array (although you can set a default using the OPTION BASE command), which is a better way, I think. Yes I do think Pascal can do it too. < 1382167505 25072 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If not Pascal, then there's at least some others with the feature.) < 1382167510 468408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okays. < 1382167537 153007 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have books of two prettyprinted Pascal programs, so I know some things about it. < 1382167660 799420 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1382167664 241363 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you figure out what game I was generalizing, or if this generalized form has another name already, or if I made any mistakes in this mathematical description of it, or other things you can figure of it, or etc? < 1382167745 58223 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there SoC for DVD video player? I think I saw a TV set that seems to use such a thing (the SoC hypothesis would explain the way some of its functions work). < 1382167791 814422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tv on a chip < 1382167798 976200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw such a thing at argo electronics once, I think < 1382167810 216724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://makezine.com/2008/02/25/argo-electronics-surplus/ < 1382167829 350604 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in this case it was only the DVD function that uses a separate SoC from the rest of the TV, though. < 1382167853 825277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah what i saw was an analog tv on a chip from the 80s < 1382167913 163408 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382168063 387222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, another HTK thing; this is what compiling it looks like: http://sprunge.us/VjUG (just an extract) < 1382168065 379403 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1382168161 122341 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382168211 36901 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :negs = (int)up_hmm->hook+1; up_hmm->hook = (void *)negs; < 1382168218 867622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's full of "let's put an int in a pointer", too. < 1382168224 151655 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382168319 756281 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382168474 429211 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's one of the "set but not used", and while it may be correct, it sure looks like a 'cb'-to-'cn' typo: http://sprunge.us/cdPR < 1382168490 743013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm frankly surprised this code ever gets any correct results. < 1382168561 138483 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382168661 219274 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382169124 725558 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382169594 419486 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this book, the games "Number Place" and "Skyscrapers" both involve Latin squares. Perhaps they could be combined! (The rules for the combined game are obvious, but I don't know if there are any such puzzles.) < 1382169758 376610 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.133.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382169761 117043 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382169777 181700 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382169820 991815 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382169851 14244 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-121.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1382170309 328493 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382170751 726 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382171023 959215 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason this system leaves the stack executable by default, yet there seems to be no way to jump to it in ascii. < 1382171046 679794 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of system has an executable stack but not executable plt, anyway. < 1382171086 614047 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382171372 514191 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1382171406 472174 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382171697 293007 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382171736 155244 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382171986 134149 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382172045 151966 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382172311 125673 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382172413 127176 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382172630 353945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HFBLat.c: In function ‘SetCorrectnessAsError’: < 1382172736 112637 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382172889 457053 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382172889 602801 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Changing host < 1382172889 602942 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382173105 866807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"221 2.7.0 Error: I can break rules, too. Goodbye." -- Postfix, if you forget the DATA command and go directly to "From: whoever@whatever" when doing some SMTP testing. < 1382173142 899285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it's some sort of a spambot detection scheme. (If you say something else wrong, it's usually "502 5.5.2 Error: command not recognized" instead.) < 1382173349 739632 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1382173504 551274 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382173543 708940 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382173858 144466 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382173948 958243 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It also could be a joke < 1382173949 359929 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1382174021 620848 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1382174319 402400 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382174344 149638 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382174586 130866 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382174654 161283 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382175036 111801 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382175566 397401 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382175607 789534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, "Mr. 4679" (the port-knocker) is back at it *again*. < 1382175637 382567 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I can be bothered to send a third abuse@ email because it seems to do nothing except possibly a temporary disconnect. < 1382175997 178456 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382176261 125029 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382176526 976163 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1382176648 184955 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382176911 140003 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382176969 137385 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382177261 137883 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382177290 128426 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382177530 806451 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1382177786 115912 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382177938 116825 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382178244 760111 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1382178286 164109 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382178300 70464 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT : < 1382178309 589164 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382178354 586788 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382178406 453089 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382178419 758746 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382178515 910132 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382178811 192469 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382178936 115896 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382179149 709738 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-157.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382179190 160953 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382179194 445854 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-157.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1382179206 723226 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-157.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382179261 153717 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382179415 970271 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1382179486 117124 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382179588 130570 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382179899 922255 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382179907 154012 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382180165 319599 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do petrol stations sell milk < 1382180348 999048 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1382180350 378640 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-121.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382180360 932201 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you going to a petrol station though < 1382180399 764971 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's closer than the supermarket < 1382180413 355522 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :only petrol stations that sell milk sell milk < 1382180425 230674 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I'm pretty sure that statement is tautologous < 1382180446 477305 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it does suggest eg supermarkets and dairies do not sell milk < 1382180511 115433 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382180968 594548 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1382180992 910198 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the easiest way to find out if they sell milk is to walk over and see < 1382181133 708216 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can call them and ask? < 1382181151 649834 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have any credit on my phone < 1382181170 429233 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's almost literally next door < 1382181197 215494 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382181545 205721 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I know many petrol stations sell coffee, htht < 1382181565 164689 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382181581 560966 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382181718 907608 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, I don't drink coffee < 1382181722 655463 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I drink nothing but milk < 1382181728 59667 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good < 1382181732 595911 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some other things < 1382181733 281567 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :milk is good < 1382181738 615420 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But probably more milk than average < 1382181745 670433 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you dutch? < 1382181754 841607 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not < 1382181759 523201 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you ask? < 1382181778 433697 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everytime people realize how much milk I drink, they ask me if I'm dutch < 1382181803 186198 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do the dutch drink a lot of milk? < 1382181855 17753 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1382181865 639014 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1382181927 398386 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382181943 178090 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382182286 158863 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382182329 46736 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382182495 745484 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1382182623 135278 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382182842 544100 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-55-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1382182882 624817 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-55-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1382182882 770457 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382183867 413459 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1382184269 836861 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382184968 808615 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1382185125 349689 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382185247 945224 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1382185603 254070 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, talk me through the military setup in the fort? < 1382185617 108395 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382185672 561435 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should run itself (well, once you stitch the soldiers back together again) < 1382185688 135467 :asie!~textual@178235109178.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1382185703 364039 :asie!~textual@178235109178.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1382185732 391155 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're set to train at all times; the only thing you should need to do once they recover is forge the rest of their armour < 1382185734 153213 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a hospital? < 1382185741 844404 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll put it on of their own accord; and no, there is not < 1382185763 392227 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382185883 706580 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382185973 497960 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382185976 697294 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.176.133.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382186020 249349 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, oh, and make sure to appoint a new manager < 1382186042 730765 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bookkeeper < 1382186047 420490 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1382186086 759923 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382186090 983072 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and chief medical dorf! < 1382186141 760608 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382186170 884304 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.133.20 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382186193 344358 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382186207 767182 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382186368 639845 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382186433 190637 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382186767 278270 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-157.psoas.suomi.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1382186798 853881 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1382187036 156013 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382187143 173574 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382187585 163655 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382187806 143050 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382188031 810442 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382188150 303152 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1382188745 349217 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basic healthcare is going < 1382188966 562262 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382189198 344172 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382189218 367609 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1382189398 190633 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1382189426 469545 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382189627 713509 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382189658 357131 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382189877 955171 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382189898 348927 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382189918 587283 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, elves have arrived < 1382189929 725555 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill them allll < 1382190080 194859 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1382190292 954267 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382190309 938455 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We lost a hammerdwarf in an ambush :( < 1382190529 167849 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another ambush is happening that seems to be deadlier < 1382191082 463318 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382191272 762263 :asie!~textual@178235109178.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1382191539 293446 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, noooo < 1382191562 918156 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there was at least one other dorf with weapons skills, more may have migrated) < 1382191872 814577 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1382191932 319953 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1382195211 123372 :stuntaneous!~stuntaneo@2001:1af8:4700:a000:10:: QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382195297 475623 :drlemon!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382195482 240238 :drlemon_!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1382196399 288720 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382196695 357979 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382198077 987157 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1382198341 690533 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382198758 696504 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin_ < 1382198763 607548 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1382199681 807275 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-200.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382201275 712681 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382201386 536673 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-200.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1382202363 243910 :asie!~textual@178235109178.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1382203067 728817 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382203540 135243 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Phantom_Hoover siege killed two soldiers :( < 1382203540 280675 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1382203554 496908 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Phantom_Hoover This is why trading is bad! < 1382203554 642497 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1382203559 357219 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1382204450 636646 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1382204910 954219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1382205406 118217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1382205502 700893 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-200.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382205604 760254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Anyway. Does anyone know of a mathematician named Holden. Probably early 20th century, worked in analysis. <-- technically yes, although probably not the one you want :P < 1382205659 344700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he work{s,ed} at the university here, and also was my previous next door neighbor.) < 1382205792 254733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats Bike for being hideously idle -----### < 1382205838 550187 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh what a hideous way to idle < 1382205844 114192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm he has a page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helge_Holden < 1382206335 756404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Bike See your backscroll and/or the logs. < 1382206335 938487 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1382206441 204527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm are there clients that display nicks differently if they've been idle for a long time? < 1382206462 208119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that i'd switch to one, but hypothetically) < 1382206483 978149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course automatic reconnections ruin that anyway. < 1382206508 634060 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382206510 228259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use WHOIS command at least < 1382206530 201633 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So try that < 1382206564 467006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i use that, but i always keep forgetting to do so until _after_ i've spoken to people. < 1382206588 843945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also, as i said, it doesn't help with automatic reconnections, which reset the timer. < 1382206601 400886 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1382206651 638810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually just type a message anyways regardless of they are idle or even not connected at all; the channel is logged. < 1382206680 576927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but i'm too paranoid to trust people to check if they've been spoken to. :( < 1382206753 874503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :people have all kinds of different habits. < 1382206780 509060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really trust everyone either, but I do it anyways just in case, and then later when they might be on if they didn't respond already I can reask the question. < 1382206799 381206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1382206806 749670 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also means that other people can answer if they have any answer, even if not the people being asked. < 1382208027 919589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Do petrol stations sell milk <-- i'm pretty sure it happens. < 1382208078 712751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Koen_, I don't drink coffee < 1382208094 516455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could ask for coffee with milk, without the coffee. < 1382208112 738532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure that should work. < 1382208270 427095 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1382208328 814579 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-55-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1382208366 740484 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-55-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1382208366 886277 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382208374 836093 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yeah, they did sell milk < 1382208665 993027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1382208669 125441 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382208680 961182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably more expensive than the supermarket, though. < 1382208698 314044 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it was < 1382208712 650688 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I was a) really hungry and b) ill < 1382208719 688789 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I couldn't be bothered to walk to the supermarket < 1382208719 980857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bad combination. < 1382208741 291905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least you weren't a zombie. i assume. < 1382208756 336609 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot recall being a zombie < 1382208845 252281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's usually a permanent thing. < 1382209020 580018 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What puzzle games are based on Latin squares other than the ones I konw? < 1382209129 497089 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1382209217 634212 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1382209223 502480 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1382209223 648093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382209240 400183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: other than the ones you mentioned earlier, there's sudoku of course. < 1382209275 382242 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the Number Place game I mentioned is a generalization of sudoku. < 1382209280 339793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1382209299 136286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't recall that game. < 1382209399 100441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :simon tatham's puzzles also has Keen, otherwise known as KenKen. < 1382209420 780240 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes, I have read about KenKen too I think. < 1382209463 425159 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rules of "Number Place": You are given a grid where each cell belongs to a zone. Some cells also have symbols filled in. Fill in the rest of the cells to make up a Latin square such that each zone also contains exactly one of each symbol. < 1382209533 434180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has Singles, otherwise known as Hitori, which isn't quite a latin square but does require you to blot out enough parts of it that the rest is consistent with one. < 1382209548 607418 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382209655 621382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :towers is probably what you call skyscrapers. < 1382209711 418832 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rules of "Skyscrapers": You are given a grid, and each row or column heading may have a number at neither, one, or both ends. Make a Latin square (note: the set of symbols in this game must be ordered) such that the number in the heading is equal to the length of the list made by starting at that end, going through the row/column and deleting any symbol that is less than a previous symbol. < 1382209716 729176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Unequal, otherwise known as Futoshiki also requires a latin square. < 1382209749 172605 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You say towers is probably what I call skyscrapers, now that I wrote the rules, you can know if that is it or not? < 1382209843 129835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's equivalent afaict. Towers sometimes has a few cells filled in in addition to the numbers outside. < 1382209927 313100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the ones i could find in that collection that look latin square related. < 1382209951 15391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other games in this book I have do not involve Latin squares, but there are many games in there. < 1382209996 220364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall seeing at least futoshiki in a newspaper here. and of course plenty of sudokus. < 1382210075 264863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's killer sudoku. < 1382210098 271025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is also in the collection as an option to ordinary sudoku ("solo")) < 1382210106 198725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In "Dominoes", you are given a grid filled in with symbols and must split it into dominoes (areas of two cells which are orthogonally adjacent), such that no domino contains an identical (unordered) pair of symbols to any other domino. Another rule of this is that every diagram has a unique solution (it can help to solve them, as I have figured out). < 1382210148 768896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also in tatham's collection as "dominosa". < 1382210154 195894 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1382210212 697048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always feel like i'm cheating when i use the fact that the solution is unique. < 1382210269 414198 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you? That is actually the only game in this book that mentions that in the rules, so I do use it in only this game. < 1382210275 988235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1382210302 915203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This book does not discuss strategies for solving any of these puzzles; only the rules are specified.) < 1382210305 234598 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you understand hygienic macros? < 1382210316 879340 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Kind of. < 1382210327 427014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think some of tatham's puzzles have an option to allow you to request non-unique solution puzzles. < 1382210341 504333 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is hoping for someone to ask for help when trying to understand the difference between SRFI-72 and Racket's model < 1382210363 604574 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't understand SRFI-72 or Racket, though. < 1382210397 589712 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mathematical description I provided yesterday night (in my timezone) is for a generalization of one of the games in this book I have. < 1382210460 944999 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I intended to make the generalization of the game in this book called "Mineswweeper"; did you find any mistake in the one I did? < 1382210700 260515 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1382210745 690877 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1382210784 189086 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1382211555 527826 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1382211832 622274 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1382211838 724769 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1382212077 224640 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382212250 350134 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382212294 421906 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382212484 189471 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1382212525 360174 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382212731 789429 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382212761 144986 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382212827 709136 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382212967 430651 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.176.133.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382213189 690196 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.176.133.20 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382213347 343123 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1382213756 869925 :grupo5-29!brayanmari@190.141.146.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382213761 796609 :grupo5-29!brayanmari@190.141.146.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1382213765 802972 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1382213782 432643 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo < 1382213834 899850 :grupo5-29!brayanmari@190.141.146.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola amor como estas < 1382213845 167548 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: interesting that "early 20th century" apparently encompasses a guy born in '56 :p < 1382213895 326962 :grupo5-29!brayanmari@190.141.146.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1382213911 408410 :grupo5-29!brayanmari@190.141.146.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :´what are you < 1382213936 198686 :grupo5-29!brayanmari@190.141.146.34 PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1382213971 853338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a problem I wrote on a paper to pose to the NPCs of a D&D game, to test their quality of thinking in sideways and other ways: The king of a far away city is allergic to beholders and wants to destroy all of them in this city. However, only half of them have done anything wrong. Identify the problem. < 1382213983 828136 :grupo5-29!brayanmari@190.141.146.34 QUIT : < 1382213997 815570 :grupo5-29!riveteo-.a@cpe-6470024469af.cpe.cableonda.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382214051 151079 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rwelcome grupo5-29 < 1382214055 143215 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rwelcome: not found < 1382214055 410672 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rwlcome grupo5-29 < 1382214056 601991 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hint: "Identify the problem" is a key phrase.) < 1382214058 748114 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13grupo5-29: 06Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 13esoteric 06programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 13more 06information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. 13(For 06the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 13#esoteric 06on 04irc.dal.net.) < 1382214061 130271 :grupo5-29!riveteo-.a@cpe-6470024469af.cpe.cableonda.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :io < 1382214062 105997 :grupo5-29!riveteo-.a@cpe-6470024469af.cpe.cableonda.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fgokgojh´ < 1382214150 336936 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382214183 42581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i ignored that part of your question < 1382214192 92 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you jerk! < 1382214215 713168 :grupo5-29!riveteo-.a@cpe-6470024469af.cpe.cableonda.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :español?????? < 1382214218 711625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido grupo5-29 < 1382214221 397502 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :grupo5-29: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1382214275 883234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: `rwelcome got renamed. twice. < 1382214293 352845 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why? < 1382214317 262375 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rid ic u lous < 1382214344 724802 :grupo5-29!riveteo-.a@cpe-6470024469af.cpe.cableonda.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :que te pica < 1382214352 969687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well one of them was me trying to think of a punny name (that's `ozcome). the other was probably someone not finding `rwelcome. um those might be related, come to think of it :P < 1382214843 976931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bienvenido grupo5-29 | rainwords < 1382214847 240880 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06grupo5-29: 04¡Bienvenido 07al 08centro 09internacional 02para 13el 06diseño 04y 07despliegue 08de 09lenguajes 02de 13programación 06esotéricos! 04Por 07desgracia, 08la 09mayoría 02de 13nosotros 06no 04hablamos 07español. 08Para 09obtener 02más 13información, 06echa 04un 07vistazo 08a 09nuestro 02wiki: < 1382214879 554836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could create links (does the hg filesystem support that?) < 1382214916 84491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike rainbow, rainwords doesn't check whether the color codes fit in the line. < 1382214964 89788 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/*come < 1382214965 647311 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/*come: No such file or directory < 1382214974 192846 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm < 1382214989 880601 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which welcome < 1382214990 894343 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/welcome < 1382214998 674816 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd < 1382215000 10696 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1382215005 651809 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, duh. < 1382215008 403722 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/*come < 1382215009 880281 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/ozcome \ bin/relcome \ bin/rwlcome \ bin/welcome \ bin/welcome \ bin/wercome < 1382215071 730936 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting sorting. < 1382215079 224047 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently control characters don't count. < 1382215096 670255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :blame the new zealanders. < 1382215135 293856 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ozcome < 1382215137 812498 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13Welcome 06to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 13programming 06language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 13information, 06check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. 02(For 13the 06other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 13on 06irc.dal.net.) < 1382215150 124309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1382215169 148643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right. < 1382215192 647983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just the extra stuff in the spanish pushing it over. < 1382215202 747386 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's still some redundancy w.r.t. ozcome/rwlcome, right? < 1382215209 753280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1382215234 136167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/rw{,e}lcome < 1382215237 991084 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1382215268 578315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least use the old name < 1382215293 927013 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wercome < 1382215296 102758 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​エソテリックプログラミング言語ã®ãƒ‡ã‚£ã‚¶ã‚¤ãƒ³ã¨ãƒ‡ãƒ—ロイメントã®å›½éš›ãªå ´æ‰€ã¸ã‚ˆã†ã“ãï¼è©³ã—ãã€ã‚¦ã‚£ã‚­ã‚’見ã¦ï¼šã€€http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page。(他ã®ã‚¨ã‚½ãƒ†ãƒªãƒƒã‚¯ã€irc.dal.netã®#esotericã¸ï¼‰ < 1382215304 161089 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was exactly what I imagined it would be < 1382215392 782009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a logical naming scheme. < 1382215503 148308 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wercome is my new favourite welcome < 1382215879 221917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that might be a bad idea. not sure whether it gets worse or better with actual japanese. < 1382215964 256678 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1382216078 511155 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`youkoso < 1382216079 860814 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: youkoso: not found < 1382216300 395413 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382216420 449787 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-200.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1382216655 842216 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1382216734 289737 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:3cfb:14f2:a1ac:a9c5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382217026 741387 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1382217579 455814 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1382218055 151650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in the "Black-C" that I have written about, you might make a hook for program starting like: typedef struct { inline void "create"(void) { ... } } Start; static const Start ex_start; < 1382218090 486853 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this kind of way? < 1382218309 31363 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "create" is an operator overloader. There are others, although the set of possible operator overloaders is different from C++. < 1382218449 393024 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-200.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382218846 110177 :grupo5-29!riveteo-.a@cpe-6470024469af.cpe.cableonda.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1382218860 930620 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1382218907 179894 :grupo5-29!riveteo-.a@cpe-6470024469af.cpe.cableonda.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hablas español < 1382218973 414944 :grupo5-29!riveteo-.a@cpe-6470024469af.cpe.cableonda.net QUIT : < 1382219126 124184 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1382219221 126289 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I've finished my year < 1382219268 597883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was fast, i thought you just entered university < 1382219276 98078 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-200.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1382219365 556576 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hang on < 1382219370 437499 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What year is it? < 1382219400 868159 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :1994 < 1382219408 52258 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woah < 1382219417 776572 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It worked < 1382219434 840864 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i see you continue to ruin my GLORIOUS MILITARY < 1382219450 794794 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, some of them are still alive < 1382219451 480716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have gone further back, 1994 was the year the world really started going downhill again. < 1382219472 438743 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, one of them has to walk with a crutch but he got injured on your watch < 1382219474 165375 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382219541 528011 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably this is still your fautl < 1382219543 74157 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fault < 1382219580 520330 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I set up a crossbow squad but they don't seem to train < 1382219660 780767 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :crossbow squads are like that < 1382219826 446267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they only work at cross purposes. < 1382220361 881459 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What game is #esoteric playing now? < 1382220382 791955 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to play Pokemon Card. < 1382220394 497802 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be Shiny Charizard < 1382220404 786479 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sits mutely, reflecting light < 1382220423 665556 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of what level? < 1382220501 47126 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :76 < 1382220612 96304 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy, dwarf fortress < 1382220613 91506 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :want in < 1382220621 184686 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matter if you haven't played < 1382220639 754123 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may. Last I remembered, the dwarf named after me was some kind of legendary stonecarver < 1382220656 714351 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that was months ago < 1382220666 174126 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was over a year, i think < 1382220686 463879 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is bad at time < 1382220702 839705 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus far neither me nor Taneb have named the dorfs though < 1382220749 123883 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, we should totally do that < 1382220819 894397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you should give the name NihilistDandy to a new stone carver whose creativity is crippled by his obsessive comparison of himself to his famous forefather. < 1382220833 813889 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1382220995 357320 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258] < 1382221085 558054 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that neither seems particularly nihilist nor dandy < 1382221188 972865 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/338e01ac78e86fc9c14ff11fc2f30a2b/tumblr_msfpeiZuL71sydj82o10_r1_1280.jpg bye < 1382221310 664576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i saw something about a virus demanding ransom for disk contents. and that no one had managed to get them back without paying. (i assume backups were excepted. also i only read the headline or so.) < 1382221315 761662 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:3cfb:14f2:a1ac:a9c5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, <3 < 1382221402 80056 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ah, so you encrypt stuff and then have people pay for the key? < 1382221417 453476 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's called cryptovirology. < 1382221427 86080 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptoLocker < 1382221429 800286 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a dumb name, i mean, but < 1382221510 68837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, you can pay through bitcoin < 1382222168 358355 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382222763 776017 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382223789 840317 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382224031 628977 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.91 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1382224178 851769 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1382224339 352566 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that is very old < 1382224349 76992 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :the very first randomware < 1382224359 866094 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :were scams and never actually encrypted your stuff < 1382224374 327253 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new ones actually do encrypt it but may not give you your key < 1382224375 68783 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1382224436 415946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: um why do you think it's very old, i saw it a few weeks ago. < 1382224492 392793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the wikipedia one clearly _does_ decrypt again on payment. < 1382224520 809773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only makes sense from a business standpoint. < 1382224546 382203 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not that specific virus: the idea of ransomware < 1382224567 458660 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the funniest one I saw did give you a key to decrypt < 1382224574 698836 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :but implemented the crypto wrong so the key was unusable < 1382224777 805375 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382225530 307393 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1382225846 191728 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.116 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1382226682 372122 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :question for the englishters and canucks: what is the name for the quantity measuring the number of kilometers a vehicle can travel on a liter of gas < 1382226729 258718 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: in England we use miles for distances on the roads < 1382226760 138364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we'd use "mileage" for the distance in miles, and don't have a term for the distance in kilometers (although the general term is "range", which you see/hear used occasionally no matter which units it's in) < 1382226808 194468 :nooodl!~nooodl@121.101-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1382226997 833147 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.176.133.20 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1382227057 964648 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here in Canada we use kilometres but I don't know what terms are used; I think "km/L" may sometimes be used. < 1382227164 729172 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-55-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1382227165 930128 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Finland: liters per a hundred kilometers, for some reason. < 1382227198 440928 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-55-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1382227198 586344 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric