< 1379290338 153471 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379290666 315330 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379291318 203687 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379292695 150878 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My character may join "Aberration Saver". What would you think of such thing like that? < 1379293675 119502 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-71-171-202.twcny.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379294127 17882 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it even mean < 1379294196 129813 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it can be explained so easily, sorry < 1379294227 883339 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379294237 373750 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can try to explain it a little big < 1379294240 722750 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/big/bit/ < 1379294259 961517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to know what we think of such thing like that if we don't know which thing it is < 1379294276 595591 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, I know, but I thought you might know < 1379294284 176928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can try to explain in a minute < 1379294303 121647 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is related to the god Gxxyuxihuvxi < 1379294320 864474 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a good explanation. < 1379294338 360111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the patron deity of my character < 1379294351 2967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the patron deity of consonants < 1379294388 519543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the society to save such creatures, which can be against opposing society but they don't necessarily have some patron deity < 1379294498 3291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is difficult to pronounce so sometimes they call "The god who shall not be named because is difficult to pronounce". < 1379294597 17607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1379294599 97199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good god < 1379294605 905781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It has a very high vapor pressure, for a metal" < 1379294736 139767 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you watch how I play the Dungeons&Dragons game then maybe you can know kind of what kind of things I mean. < 1379294777 923146 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379294916 904057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are the god of good aligned aberration type creatures. Their holy and ritual and temple and so on are often considered confusing by others, however. < 1379294973 433012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes even wrong, but, you have to think about it for yourself too, and see if it is sensible! < 1379294987 484848 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it is simultaneously sane and insane, is also OK too. < 1379295006 865053 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now do you like this? < 1379295016 628388 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What kind of metal do you mean? < 1379296311 214564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mercury < 1379296373 685199 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that's what it is. < 1379296865 229481 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379297174 24406 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I explained enough now? < 1379297485 656328 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i get it < 1379297556 252091 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1379297582 122056 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you have something to say about it then? < 1379297631 935468 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know enough about your play style < 1379297643 961055 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd have to watch you play < 1379297752 15185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could read the recording of the game, and/or to ask question, answer, complaint, comment, confusing, and thinking. < 1379297851 697921 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say, I often do unusual kind of things, I suppose. < 1379297914 501743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example I don't have the "Magic Missile" spell. < 1379297993 912938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how will you attack the darkness < 1379298020 428276 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :By surprise! < 1379298047 345800 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can respect that answer < 1379298074 839441 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My character can see in dark anyways (usually; sometimes there is magical darkness that you can't see, but I have ways to get around that too and it depend on circumstances) < 1379298098 38282 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a wizard? < 1379298104 27803 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1379298111 507316 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is harry potter < 1379298113 423755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although often the things I do are not spell casting anyways < 1379298195 854672 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of things rather have to do with items, such as cat fur, rusty nails, bone, stone, lock picks, astrolabe, rope, IOU, and so on. < 1379298215 100316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DM thought the astrolabe would be completely useless, but, I used it. < 1379298235 343389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote For example I don't have the "Magic Missile" spell. how will you attack the darkness By surprise! < 1379298239 711745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My character sheet is available on the computer though < 1379298239 857309 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1105) For example I don't have the "Magic Missile" spell. how will you attack the darkness By surprise! < 1379298268 676568 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually don't need to attack the darkness though < 1379298412 526651 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is usually bright areas that we attack < 1379298429 732445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simply because the opponent would not attack if they cannot see! < 1379298439 182821 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can you pick locks in real life or only in the dungeons & dragons game < 1379298447 314506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: maybe the opponent has magical sight < 1379298457 267182 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only in the game. < 1379298477 381765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, if they do have magical sight, or just if they can naturally see in dark, then they can, but my character can see in dark too < 1379298486 934694 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is not very good at combat < 1379298487 85891 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the opponent has termorsense < 1379298489 505446 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are dead < 1379298499 769562 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :eaten by a grue < 1379298504 810064 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or an object mimic < 1379298534 897822 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have managed to escape far more severe situations than that < 1379298574 732101 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you? or was it your character? < 1379298621 527170 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you've been mugged by a crack addict with a pistol in the middle of the night, i'll concede you've survived grue-level challenges < 1379298799 894308 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379298963 29148 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, 1 bowl of mac and cheese is not a sufficient dinner < 1379298998 251142 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to my still hungry stomach < 1379299428 54595 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could have told you that < 1379299441 896926 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a box of velveeta shells and cheese with broccoli < 1379299453 237197 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mix some tuna or spam into it < 1379299460 753855 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll fill you right up < 1379299480 874048 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if Stop&Shop would sell meat thermometers < 1379299500 202856 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I could feel comfortable buying ... oh I don't know if fridge/freezer actually work < 1379299524 215015 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you still in farmingdale or whatever < 1379299611 882333 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you have to read the recording to learn! < 1379299670 251892 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the recording wouldn't tell me whether you've been mugged by a canadian crack addict < 1379300025 349817 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379300400 827572 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes < 1379300406 9157 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in college anymoe < 1379301671 535703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not been mugged by a Canadian crack addict and neither have my characters. < 1379301708 740865 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My playing style has sometimes been compared with Batman. < 1379301811 964787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the game, once my character was being captured, and I decided not to resist being captured; after all they were taking me to the place I was intending to go anyways. Sometimes deceptive tactics can help. < 1379301819 238835 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1379301850 68035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My tactics are rarely fighting. < 1379302081 525710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are more likely confusions, deceptions, preparation, defense, outsmarting opponent, and mainly thinking ahead a lot and using what we happen to have in the given situation. < 1379302099 986184 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, using the phase of the moon to your advantage, or the day of the week. < 1379304753 925284 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379305754 595159 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many reasons to avoid the use of magic in many situations, and this is what is done. It can include to save the magic for later, or to do other things that work even in anti magic field, to not allow others to identify the spell, and because magical things can go wrong and/or have less likely chances to work. < 1379305766 763961 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :cocitrouille < 1379305778 936916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, when magic is used, you have to do things such as taking advantage of the exact duration of the spell, and other side-effects. < 1379305987 773455 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Often, mundane things will do. < 1379306594 1877 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as, like I mentioned, phase of the moon, day of the week, astrolabe, slant of the floor, the arrangement of things in a room or of hallways and rooms in a building, mundane deception or lack of it, Sicilian reasoning, the style of writing of a book, the size and type of paper used to write a message, the current season, time of day, sunrise and sunset times, and a whole bunch of other things like that. < 1379306613 86688 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is how you should learn to play the Dungeons&Dragons game! < 1379306694 48551 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you play the game like this? < 1379307650 883836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't like chess, where you have to act every turn; you are allowed to pass your turn, and it is often useful to do so. < 1379307847 400896 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can save someone by retreating instead. < 1379307985 178880 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the manga "Kaiji", Kaiji manages to beat a pachinko game partially by the floor being slanted because of someone doing construction nearby. < 1379310157 865112 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379310277 510241 :cocitrouille!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1379311602 430082 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1379313944 610911 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379315533 428407 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1379316853 325962 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379317223 338406 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379317485 244280 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I woke up this morning in a mathsy mood < 1379317500 800033 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally worked out /why/ you can get the Fibonacci series from Pascal's triangle < 1379317537 698173 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379318189 997061 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which gives me a weird idea for a Fibonacci sequence program < 1379318245 689803 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379318833 288725 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1379319348 402492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Special course in Language Technology: Language, Motion and Emotion" ... "The course is multi- and interdisciplinary --" < 1379322232 107785 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NOTE! currently system is at most 8*65536 bytes long. This should be no problem, even in the future. I want to keep it simple. This 512 kB kernel size should be enough --" (linux-0.01 bootloader comment) 2.4M /boot/vmlinuz-3.10-2-amd64 (Debian testing) A bit of a discrepancy there. < 1379322792 922148 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those 2.4MB is the compressed size! (maybe the 512kB were too?) < 1379322866 558123 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the 0.01 code does decompression. < 1379322914 259085 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something else I learned: the current boot sector header of the (x86) kernel just prints "Direct floppy boot is not supported. Use a boot loader program instead." and reboots: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/arch/x86/boot/header.S < 1379322931 328263 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was sort of assuming there still was a vestigial boot loader there. < 1379323271 259167 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if they tried removing it completely first but then got tons of bug reports about corrupt kernels not being bootable < 1379323559 992061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It said "Direct booting from floppy is no longer supported. Please use a boot loader program instead." -- a slightly different wording -- in bugger_off_msg in Jun 20, 2012. < 1379323776 401367 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, it didn't support floppy boot in 2009 when zImage support (in addition to bzImage -- which is still gzip, I understand it's a common misconception to think it's bzip2) was dropped. < 1379323788 535668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in fact it did not support floppy boot in 2007 either. < 1379323817 186996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor in 2005, which is as far back as github's history view of bootsect.S goes. < 1379323943 845220 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Back to 2.6.12, which seems to be the first Git-managed kernel. Well, maybe LXR knows more.) < 1379324091 24240 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.5.64 still supports floppy boot, and 2.5.65 already has the "not supported" error message. < 1379324094 566784 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379324176 293711 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a quick change < 1379324195 218757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Summary of changes from v2.5.64 to v2.5.65" "Peter Anvin : bootsect removal" < 1379324348 219291 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've already removed my boot sector and I'm not even at 0.01 < 1379324378 336278 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curiously enough, 2.5.64 itself changes bootsect.S by adding the value 21 to the 'disksizes' (supported sector/track numbers) array. < 1379324411 316487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling perhaps that change prompted someone to get rid of the whole thing. < 1379324601 80390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/KXBH best thing? < 1379325599 340579 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1379325891 242924 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379326704 138372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379327156 516843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 I have also started seeing the thing where wikipedia tries to change to https automatically. I kind of like it. I think it's set by the "Always use a secure connection when logged in" preference. < 1379327156 662334 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379327458 916664 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, reading proggit is making my hatred of github less irrational < 1379327462 354138 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I be annoyed at this? < 1379327745 243463 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does proggit affect your opinion of github? < 1379327786 941776 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's someone reporting on how they managed to send 300,000 emails in 4 minutes /accidentally/ because they were trying to migrate an issue tracker to Github < 1379327793 605068 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that it turns out that there's no other way to do it < 1379327829 123167 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, git. < 1379327843 924336 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, git is suboptimal as a VCS < 1379327849 660208 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it won, somehow < 1379327856 923293 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I find that flabbergasting. < 1379327864 789378 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's hideously unusable. < 1379327888 530401 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :git story: I spent like an hour last night trying to figure out a git command to print the hash of HEAD < 1379327903 566161 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if there's any 100% reliable way to do it, and there's no /obvious/ way to do it < 1379327905 863601 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg story: hg id < 1379327912 872672 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, for HEAD < 1379327914 481751 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg id -r tip < 1379327919 955220 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my current best solution is git log --pretty=format:%H -1 < 1379327927 827410 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lul < 1379327957 491597 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, git is honestly the worst thing ever. I have to assume that there was malicious intent in its design, because even programmers can't eff up UIs that badly. < 1379327969 852306 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: the actual explanation is that it doesn't have a UI < 1379327982 732488 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a programming API, which they planned to build a UI on top of < 1379327987 870003 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but never got round to it < 1379327992 438217 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so people started using the API directly < 1379328033 419379 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I find most perplexing is that people actually think git is usable. < 1379328038 974736 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who use it. < 1379328050 294709 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I'm not insane, so I'm forced to conclude that they are. < 1379328063 280666 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it "usable" in the sense of "possible to use" < 1379328069 547241 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1379328071 84086 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not in the sense of "usability" < 1379328071 330811 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use hg-git. < 1379328086 123989 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess git is the C of version control systems < 1379328102 599102 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lets you do just about anything, but at the expense of needing a lot of complexity to do anything < 1379328127 859633 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that even without any guidance, it's easier to do everything in hg-git VIA A REPOSITORY FORMAT TRANSLATION than it is to do the same in git with github's help pages. < 1379328129 555813 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(personally I prefer darcs) < 1379328140 328175 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also github don't understand git, AFAICT < 1379328151 766420 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a github client for Windows that is incapable of doing some of the most basic operations < 1379328181 137380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: "git rev-parse HEAD" not doing it? < 1379328181 836008 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to use darcs, switched to hg because it was good enough and more popular, looked at git and cried for a generation of programmers. < 1379328200 865539 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I thought I tried that, not at a computer with git on right now so I can't check < 1379328211 64662 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it was something similar I tried < 1379328220 995839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works in the one repository I tried. < 1379328233 821520 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I now manage everything on bitbucket/hg and have it automatically cloned to github :) < 1379328240 739 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend this solution for everyone. < 1379328250 118060 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't, it involves having contact with github < 1379328262 914184 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: The problem is, lots of services that want to be trendy are github-only. < 1379328273 797677 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that just makes them easier to ignore :) < 1379328292 378176 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks to having a github clone, I can have all my tests run automatically on every push; and I don't have to touch github itself except on initial commit. < 1379328330 9464 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although Google recruiters have only tried to pick me up over my /bitbucket/ activity, so I guess at least the recruitment world isn't github-only. < 1379328342 967827 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: they tried to pick me up over something, and I have no idea what < 1379328349 652903 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just "we see you are active in Open Source" < 1379328364 15699 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1379328374 967230 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which could be anything from the smallish patches I have in Gnome, to C-INTERCAL < 1379328423 96692 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I find hilarious is how the Google pick-up artists clearly don't go one step further, to "oh you publish stuff relevant to us" < 1379328437 301315 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their whole process is "clearly we don't give a shit about research, but you can be a code monkey, boy" < 1379328485 774340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1105 < 1379328490 846567 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I assumed it was an automated process < 1379328490 992100 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1105) For example I don't have the "Magic Missile" spell. how will you attack the darkness By surprise! < 1379328518 556686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1105s/ For example I don't have the "Magic Missile" spell. how will you attack the darkness By surprise! < 1379328535 340674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats kmc -----###
< 1379328547 412664 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I told them that I was busy doing a PhD, and check back in 4 years < 1379328554 488673 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm waiting to see if they do or not < 1379328568 411505 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_, how is your PhD going? < 1379328588 503798 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: decently, although I'm annoyed at the lack of research to build upon < 1379328607 677004 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels like I have to do all the fundamental research myself just so that I can do the research I actually want to do < 1379328609 671913 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: Hahaha < 1379328619 423233 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I remember correctly, it's something that I am afraid that I am not particularly interested in < 1379328630 117184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We just sent a 14-page reply letter for reviewer comments about a 12-page paper, in the interests of being thorough. < 1379328637 753625 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and meanwhile, my supervisor's asking why I'm writing a paper about formalizing delay-insensitive asynchronous hardware rather than working on my thesis < 1379328677 275676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep '[^ ] <' quotes < 1379328679 17691 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: First, invent the direct mind-computer interface. Second, learn the rest with your NEW MIND-COMPUTER INTERFACE. \ IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: there is plenty of room to get head twice at once \ IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: In an alternate universe, I would say "In an alternate universe, < 1379328690 888718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep '[^: ] <' quotes < 1379328692 379584 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ what's the data of? [...] Locations in a now deceased game called Mutation I have no problems with you being interested in online games but the necrophilia is disturbing \ (in #irp) Flonk, ask on #esoteric? Sgeo: yeah well its C++, so not that esoteric :P \ GOODBAD! Your wate < 1379328701 524625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep '[^]: ] <' quotes < 1379328703 156862 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(in #irp) Flonk, ask on #esoteric? Sgeo: yeah well its C++, so not that esoteric :P \ GOODBAD! Your watered down brand of evil conflicts with my botched attempts at dogoodery! \ < ais523> then running repeatedly until you get the right sequence of random numbers < ais523> and just completely ignoring < 1379328730 169301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run allquotes | grep '[^]: ] <' < 1379328731 980296 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) I used computational linguistics to kill her. \ 2) EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ 3) Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. \ 4) that's where I got it roc < 1379328737 488375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1379328763 85436 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you should be intrested in this stuff anyway, it's interesting! < 1379328775 410086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep '[^]: ] <' quotes | tail < 1379328777 206777 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 678) Dammit, Gregor, this is not the time to fall in love 187) Gregor: You should never have got her pregnant. what whaaaaaaaaaaaat \ You should get kmc in this channel. kmc has good quotes. `quote kmc 686) COCKS [...] truly cocks Well, in theor < 1379328804 599102 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling I don't know enough context for its interest to become apparent, ais523_ < 1379328836 696149 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having not yet begun to receive any formal education in computer science < 1379328858 953351 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well basically it's about type systems that require specific useful-for-hardware properties on programs that type in them < 1379328872 457853 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1379328875 600628 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things like "there is never more than one copy of this function running concurrently" < 1379328920 137245 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my first lecture is in 3 weeks) < 1379328970 389613 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's interesting because maths doesn't have a notion of, say, "simultaneously", unless you add it into the type system yourself < 1379328975 243984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quoteformat < 1379328977 518847 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1379328986 936817 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nor does it have a notion of causality; forgetting to put causality into your type system is an easy mistake to make) < 1379329027 494458 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My first CS lecture will be presented by one of the creators of Haskell < 1379329050 570446 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one? < 1379329082 968135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo @ < 1379329084 367244 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1379329093 137856 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colin Runciman < 1379329115 364431 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colin is the name for a dog. < 1379329150 297217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell kmc `? quoteformat hth ​ < 1379329150 442711 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379329470 115887 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...is it even possible to tear apart the very fabric of reality? < 1379329510 236059 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: even if it is, I wouldn't recommend doing so < 1379329543 860212 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has just struck me how weird that cliché is < 1379329619 218540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Finally worked out /why/ you can get the Fibonacci series from Pascal's triangle <-- wait what < 1379329646 332754 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, right align it and sum the left-down diagonals < 1379329673 501947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: see the plot to "Schild's Ladder" < 1379329877 323611 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1379329931 273529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right < 1379329936 306288 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, has #esoteric seen what's been happening with aimake recently? < 1379329940 362472 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels like a pretty eso project < 1379330130 585480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the the README doesn't explain the ai part < 1379330133 275451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-the < 1379330180 924318 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well it's not really AI < 1379330193 950128 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a cross between "it figures everything out automatically", and the first two letters of "ais523" < 1379330202 143751 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you're looking at my aimake rather than someone else's < 1379330208 51026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1379330255 466363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, went to the top google link, now i see no. 2 is on nethack4.org which seems more promising :P < 1379330260 683318 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :) < 1379330263 384405 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379330272 764641 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one's mine < 1379330289 614632 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was at #2 even before I documented it < 1379330298 59368 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I suspect it'll climb quickly if it starts being used for anything at all but NetHack 4 < 1379330354 139925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, how can you possibly compete with iOS and android integration, man < 1379330376 313675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only slightly joking there) < 1379330384 408150 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I don't necessarily have to /compete/, I could just add support for them < 1379330392 794618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :devious < 1379330393 404404 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that'd mean actually screwing around with mobile dev < 1379330527 851649 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379330804 935597 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, parts of DF don't really work at 80x25, can anyone suggest a larger but still "nice" terminal size? < 1379330827 908841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :G_64xG_64 < 1379330878 331432 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379330878 580225 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, "nice" suggests "feasible to run on a modern computer" < 1379330887 766385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought "nice" suggested "accurate". < 1379330889 25664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how quaint < 1379330976 818795 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, only for prophecies < 1379331000 986390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use 80x43 in putty. that's of course the maximal vertical height that fits with my desired font size. < 1379331024 910859 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have a nice 1920x720 terminal on a modern computer. (Just take a 2x2 grid of 3840x2160 monitors and put a 4x6 font on it.) < 1379331113 337563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think cassandra would have something to say about nice ~ accurate for prophecies, although no one would believe her of course. < 1379331130 496999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My typical "two terminals" setup here at work seems to be 119x88. < 1379332021 29790 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 The HTMLization at http://nethack4.org/projects/aimake/documentation.html seems to have made a mungle out of the levels of -v: levels >= 0 are missing the "titles", being just an unordered list. (In fact, the HTML has totally mismatched tags.) < 1379332021 214498 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379332110 720395 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I remember dfhack, that game was not bad < 1379332169 329123 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, dfhack is a sort of cheaty tool for Dwarf Fortress < 1379332215 183063 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know where you read that. dfhack is an urist management game based on the dwarf fortress simulation engine < 1379332329 254465 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379332342 875622 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, aimake configuration files are probably Turing-complete < 1379332369 310762 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that like probably polynomial time < 1379332449 407808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: I sent the underscoreless you a message. < 1379332457 768225 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 NICK :ais523 < 1379332461 294761 :ais523!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1379332463 639144 :ais523!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 NICK :ais523_ < 1379332479 537832 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I actually fixed the -v mangle last night < 1379332481 948824 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jhust haven't < 1379332485 468938 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :had a chance to push it yet < 1379332495 385363 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, pod2html seems really buggy < 1379332508 403829 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another bizarre thing it did was add semicolons to the URLs in the GPLv3 < 1379332562 98020 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The links also include the > character in them, but that's perhaps understandable. < 1379332583 41792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the semicolons are actually probably leftovers from the ">" that ends in the link. < 1379332604 905189 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>;." < 1379332608 480112 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I should try to find (or write) a less buggy POD to HTML convertor than the one that ships with Perl < 1379332623 937228 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and oh wow, that's the worst escaping fail I've seen < 1379332628 160865 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably parses with regexes or something < 1379332651 335733 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking it turns the > into > first, and then parses and locates links afterward, with a regex. < 1379332667 99177 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "http://...blah>" looks quite linky. < 1379332679 237525 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379332707 617737 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the -v mangle is /technically/ my fault < 1379332714 933771 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the POD format spec says that you can't mix =item types in a single list < 1379332724 758717 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and -2 is free text, 0's a bullet, and 1's a number < 1379332752 487411 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have written Z<>0 to stop that being a bullet, but apparently pod2html treats that as a bullet anyway < 1379332821 565182 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Z<>'s is pod's arbitrary no-op you use to work around parsing ambiguities) < 1379332886 495823 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do like pod as a markup format, but it has some really nasty corner cases < 1379332903 224494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The conflation of the C++ term "Plain Old Data" and the Perl term "Plain Old Documentation" is distracting. < 1379332979 202047 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could move to POC++O for C++ < 1379332982 238805 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like POJO for Java < 1379332986 31039 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :("plain old Java object") < 1379333017 173251 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :But pod != plain-old-object < 1379333026 639265 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, plain-old-data is almost exactly NOT an object. < 1379333049 128823 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes < 1379333052 190537 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no methods < 1379333086 763645 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :manual.tiff < 1379333979 365092 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Never send chain letters via electronic mail. Chain letters are forbidden on the Internet. Your network privileges will be revoked." < 1379334049 764328 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, even better: ":-) is an example of a smiley (Look sideways)." < 1379334124 532370 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh bleh, apparently we're supposed to capitalize and punctuate correctly on IRC too. < 1379334150 221972 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE < 1379334153 186129 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1379334153 331870 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps not < 1379334170 477219 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems to be for when you're sending messages directly onto someone else's tty using write(1) < 1379334237 261605 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379334294 217558 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379334294 363741 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379334366 615747 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... this is describing Gopher as new < 1379334374 468608 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the WWW < 1379334392 991940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: btw the -v list at http://nethack4.org/projects/aimake/documentation.html looks like it should have had numbered rather than bulleted points < 1379334410 646045 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it should be a definition list, and it does start as one < 1379334416 365292 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens beyond there is a bug in pod2html < 1379334419 634521 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379334429 373054 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I've worked around locally by writing the items as -v-2, -v-1, etc. < 1379334433 327660 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379334476 144345 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, I've found the IRC guidelines here < 1379334478 792568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops fizzie already mentioned it :) < 1379334479 957344 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they seem really sensible < 1379334500 209172 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it seems that people pasting into IRC channels was a problem even in 1995 < 1379334506 679180 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably more of one, because pastebins didn't exist back then < 1379334573 865737 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379335141 414852 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morning, everyone < 1379335142 456283 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1379335148 474304 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afternoon Roujo < 1379335156 331659 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That too < 1379335193 909945 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_, link? < 1379335196 575003 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, Roujo < 1379335205 318055 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: to what? < 1379335214 775662 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IRC guidelines? < 1379335220 225430 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the netiquette guide I was quoting from is http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 < 1379335232 578987 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an RFC, so it's all official and that < 1379335513 150914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay for Funet FileSender, 2.6 gigs of stuffs fetched in a hundred seconds. < 1379335531 174793 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1379335531 592077 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of RFCs, I'm still waiting for those style files for fungot. :p < 1379335553 360037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And speaking of fungot... < 1379335586 712014 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungoooooooot! noooooooooo... < 1379335594 960043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungnoooot < 1379335600 82828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pratchett.freenode.net is being a slow. < 1379335618 783543 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NOTICE * :*** Got Ident response" and then not a thing. < 1379335640 427628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it was some sort of timeouting open-proxy-check, who knows. < 1379335655 742590 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1379335659 479789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it detected the ident as a known fugitive and is now telling Interpol. < 1379335670 414238 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fungutive < 1379335671 678091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what did you dooooooo? < 1379335672 162857 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: esoteric means not somewhat usable? ( preferrably one that does not have a philly accent! < 1379335697 583639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hey don't you start agreeing with ais523_ < 1379335697 872165 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i have a " format" function, how do you duplicate? < 1379335699 56509 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha. philly accents. < 1379335724 316209 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't fungot agree with me? :-( < 1379335724 545657 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: i have no idea. i can write other of them < 1379335747 553509 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounded very zzolike < 1379335747 902641 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also RFC 1855 puts the nose in smileys, therefore I now consider this to be official) < 1379335759 526271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: because then he'll be leaving the channel most of the time! oh wait he's already started! < 1379335765 284789 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :smileys with noses are ugly < 1379335775 138549 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smileys with noses feel all quaint. < 1379335787 109248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All 90s. < 1379335796 506819 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too < 1379335807 581929 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::^) < 1379335814 429853 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, pointy noses are okay < 1379335833 471077 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::v) < 1379335857 903410 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1379335864 844347 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::4 < 1379335869 982829 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1379335871 839279 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::4) < 1379335874 123944 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::9 < 1379335882 727353 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::5 < 1379335895 478826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::#) < 1379335896 333035 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::420 < 1379335900 233148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is ":5" like "drooling from the side of the mouth"? < 1379335914 459122 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precisely < 1379335925 578299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or some serious underbite < 1379335928 953217 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no that's :2 < 1379335957 758202 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh that 2 makes a good gaunt nose < 1379335968 657890 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::2V < 1379336234 750305 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anything new and interesting in esotericland? < 1379336245 940621 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly aimake? < 1379336282 579662 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not new, I just mentioned it < 1379336286 361609 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's TC in configuration < 1379336316 222284 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to have everything necessary to be TC, although probably you'd hit a filename limit eventually and run out of storage < 1379336325 262068 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's doable without touching the filesystem at all < 1379336413 745658 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is aimake < 1379336429 928826 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, ais523_'s make replacement that needs much less config < 1379336459 295070 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a drop-in replacement? that sounds useful! < 1379336468 27779 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not drop in < 1379336468 919187 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but where do i read about such a thing < 1379336476 175500 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I have heard, almost drop out < 1379336487 561582 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethack4.org/projects/aimake/ < 1379336557 334167 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it can arguably be drop-in, in that it can entirely ignore the makefile and work anyway < 1379336607 481149 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good to me. will it be possible for it to do installation without config eventually? < 1379336639 513582 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, that future is now < 1379336646 753260 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1379336648 56652 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1379336651 952072 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: actually it can almost do that now < 1379336653 818811 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then that page is otdated < 1379336662 284986 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however it sucks at choosing filenames for executables < 1379336665 287808 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, that page is outdated < 1379336680 631222 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the filename-choosing logic is there, I just haven't hooked it up to the executable installer yet < 1379336699 186003 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see no reason why it would be annoying to specify the filename in the installation command < 1379336769 767849 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'm used to projects that build multiple executables < 1379336873 196801 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379336886 586298 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how do you go about coming up with filenames automagically? < 1379336942 236128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fn1, fn2, fn3 < 1379336943 774378 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep for "namehint" in the config file < 1379336956 328667 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it works out which files have the largest weight in naming the executable < 1379336964 603567 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then takes the common prefix (both filename and directory name) < 1379337075 651 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "largest weight" mean < 1379337077 764052 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379337084 731032 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379337133 10227 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it tries to distinguish files that probably contain relevant code, from files that are probably libraries < 1379337149 577429 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the heuristic is that a file probably contains relevant code if it contains a main() function or any initialized read-write data < 1379337266 257558 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1379337306 207297 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boillo =) < 1379337321 935538 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and namehints are created automagically also? < 1379337380 455553 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing's created automagically, except sys:, config_rule: and config_option: objects < 1379337390 160677 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can read how they're created in the config file (at the end of the aimake script itself) < 1379337440 75436 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so namehints are user provided in the source files? i so confuse < 1379337447 164142 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1379337450 19120 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujon matin! < 1379337499 733071 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no, they're created by aimake's config file < 1379337503 748040 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like everything else in aimake < 1379337512 545477 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically a rule engine + a set of rules < 1379337526 380613 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellœrjan. < 1379337528 10279 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the reason it's architected like that is that it makes it much easier to test < 1379337563 224 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if everything's treated the same way, it's much less likely to make it accidentally non-idempotent or accidentally fail to track dependencies correctly or something like that < 1379337608 266886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily < 1379337616 711360 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they are created by aimake, but not automatically... < 1379337635 10594 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: about underload's monoidalitude, I'll have to believe you at face value for now. < 1379337672 641708 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload's obviously a monoid < 1379337682 682116 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with concatenation being the operation, and the null string the unit < 1379337743 169306 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, everything's a monoid to moneyes. < 1379337774 517252 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1379337775 845851 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1379337785 817853 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, http://bitbucket.org/GregorR/exc . *runs* < 1379337790 695107 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I think all concatenative languages are monoids by definition < 1379337792 665454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although brainfuck is a monoid in essentially the same way < 1379337802 618226 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: what is everything to soreyes? < 1379337822 553865 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :... soroid? < 1379337831 352204 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF is technically concatenative too, isn't it? < 1379337836 16160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379337838 503104 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, aren't those dinosaurs? < 1379337841 345569 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not in an interesting way < 1379337895 434074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck behaves too erratically on pre-initialized tape < 1379337911 158632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there isn't anything stopping you from clearing cells first < 1379337991 340625 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learned today that t-rex lived closer in time to the present day than to the time when stegosaurus lived < 1379337992 987676 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it's better than Snowflake in that respect < 1379338011 74851 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where by definition, given a suitably initialized stack, any program can do anything whatsoever < 1379338032 430061 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I think it's interesting to draw a distinction between reversible languages, and rereversible languages < 1379338044 252489 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then do so < 1379338046 36446 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a reversible language, given a program and an eventual state, you can construct the initial state of the program < 1379338060 520766 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a rereversible language, given a program, there is another program in the same language that undoes its effects < 1379338067 638598 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a stronger requirement < 1379338110 230303 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so rereversible languages might form a group. like burro. or rather, my improvement to burro. < 1379338140 618051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: that's like the difference between bijection and isomorphism < 1379338169 240694 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yeah, the original burro didn't form a group because it was reversible but not rereversible < 1379338172 382705 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, I think that any rereversible language forms a group possibly without associativity so not a group at all < 1379338188 626536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly between injection and monomorphism < 1379338228 478097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait no < 1379338234 220673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monomorphism is the same < 1379338261 111253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the difference between injection/monomorphism and left invertible < 1379338348 799919 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowflake has possibly the strongest reversibility I've seen in an esolang (within a single cycle): for each command, there is a specific other command that's both a left and right inverse of it < 1379338393 96788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just a group. < 1379338400 98102 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from this, it's immediately impossible to conclude that Snowflake has no infinite loops within a single cycle) < 1379338408 33959 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well it only has finitely many commands < 1379338428 579352 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike, say, Burro, where the inverse of a single command can IIRC be multiple commands < 1379338438 237413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can? < 1379338445 678864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't remember
< 1379338461 523941 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, perhaps not < 1379338466 472706 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really remember either < 1379338486 815286 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: did you ever read my suggested improvements to make it form a proper group? < 1379338518 762364 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't think so, and can't find them on the wiki article or talk page < 1379338544 229714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall discussing making a language with all basic commands _self_-inverse. < 1379338564 54048 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I recall that being discussed too < 1379338574 349911 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowflake needed to be reasonably easy to program in, though < 1379338581 503193 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: that's because i posted them on the xkcd fora instead < 1379338584 565869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course this property is not preserved for composite commands < 1379338586 587907 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=14986 < 1379338604 891402 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, I didn't mind making arbitrary changes to make it harder, but I wanted it to be reasonable to write a working program < 1379338686 283509 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... it's interesting how close cpressey's fixed conditional in Burro ended up to FORK/SPOON in Snowflake < 1379338891 59125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lather < 1379339331 20156 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, I only scored 10 that time < 1379339336 636085 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, onoz is pretty interesting as BF derivatives go < 1379339881 975127 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :scored 10 at? < 1379339897 384559 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Life, presumably. Out of 10. Success. < 1379339936 226769 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you assume, you give an ass to Uma Thurman < 1379340010 747672 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the BF derivative dodging game < 1379340020 51340 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you keep clicking on random page on Esolang < 1379340030 362718 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and count how many BF derivs youu find before you find a language you created < 1379340032 859329 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lower is better < 1379340135 367160 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could we, like, y'know, like, delete and remove and obliterate and shred to pieces so small you start doing atomic fission the brainfuck derivatives? < 1379340143 980564 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_, does Most ever Brainfuckiest Fuck you Brain fucker Fuck count? < 1379340165 900871 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no < 1379340166 753969 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric : when you assume, you give an ass to Uma Thurman < 1379340170 184297 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? =P < 1379340223 844670 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about I hate your bf-derivative I really do? < 1379340272 684328 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget what that language is < 1379340280 755717 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the counts are only going to be approximate anyway, though < 1379340289 336819 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to judgement calls or clicking too fast < 1379340293 190441 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaargh, thought I had scored 3 but it was Fugue rather than Fueue < 1379340394 765089 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sort of thing happens all the time to me < 1379340455 667030 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got confused. some languages had a BFDish name, but the language itself was not quite BFDian enough... < 1379340484 468329 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh come on < 1379340491 516311 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've ended up at the page for me < 1379340548 334615 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful < 1379340551 933761 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What game is this? =P < 1379340558 572131 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the BF derivative dodging game < 1379340565 78861 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[15:00] basically you keep clicking on random page on Esolang [15:00] and count how many BF derivs youu find before you find a language you created < 1379340565 501096 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: i would probably get 100 < 1379340574 850954 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1379340582 151013 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAICT, if you want to do /really/ well, you have to be either cpressey or zzo38 < 1379340591 686269 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I hit Taneb before I hit me, usually < 1379340599 212833 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... Infinite score for me? =P < 1379340602 712901 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Taneb's likely to see the opposite results ;) < 1379340617 406453 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: if you have no non-BF-derivative languages, you have to write one so as to not be stuck clicking forever < 1379340631 785122 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, just hit ais523 < 1379340638 112214 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no language, period =P < 1379340650 374165 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah. Oops. =P < 1379340656 841120 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I know what I have to do now! < 1379340659 373063 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just hit Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download < 1379340663 59948 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Final score: 15 < 1379340703 61413 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should change the game to be "until you land on your own language or one of cpressey's or Zzo38's" < 1379340713 817639 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we can play a lot faster < 1379340770 893998 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe put in bonus points if it's your own language < 1379340788 234405 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, deduce some points from your total, really < 1379340792 220713 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379340793 461455 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm up to 7 and still haven't hit me >: ( < 1379340797 585025 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it seems the goal is the get a low score? < 1379340804 846251 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the word you want is deduct < 1379340816 13019 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Massive Multiplayer Online Esoteric Brainfuck Derivative Dodge! < 1379340863 553843 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Nah, I want to use logical axioms to find out what my score is >_> < 1379340901 319411 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I thought that last sentence was a language idea < 1379340911 14565 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :until the second time I read it < 1379340920 736893 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1379340976 756771 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 and I give up < 1379341067 576693 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I've scored like 30 before now < 1379341082 923502 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I'm at work ;) < 1379341160 856157 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1379341182 434825 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379341201 214962 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, just actually scored 3 < 1379341230 40686 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many samples would one need to get a statistically safe average that could be published on the user's page? < 1379341232 249675 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this game could be scripted, if the brainfuck derivative category were accurate and up-to-date < 1379341316 928519 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wouldn't really need to sample it, you could just calculate < 1379341335 227348 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that MediaWiki's random page command isn't uniformly weighted < 1379341357 229645 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it assigns a random float between 0 and 1 to each page, then the random page button generates a random float and looks for the next higher float that belongs to a page < 1379341359 783762 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and returns that page < 1379341373 857782 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, the calculation is simple enough that you don't even need a program. Number of pages in the BF-derivs category divided by number of languages you've made. < 1379341407 673521 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. right. but I still like my overengineered solution :D < 1379341410 208504 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_, doesn't that wind up as roughly uniform weighted for a sufficiently large number of pages? < 1379341425 999837 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yeah, but some pages will be more heavily weighted than others < 1379341430 165995 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or rather, bfderivs/(bfderivs+yourlangs) < 1379341454 513011 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowait... oh well, I'm not sure precisely the math apparently X-D < 1379341485 940022 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we count your own BFDes differently than other people's BFDes? do you count them at all? < 1379341507 560197 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(own languages) / (1 + own BFD)? < 1379341513 630202 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the rule is that if you've made BF-derivs, you don't deserve to play the game. < 1379341527 515829 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you hit your own BF deriv, you have to keep going < 1379341547 379804 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yes. < 1379341551 594209 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you invented BF? < 1379341554 963177 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that count? < 1379341560 815379 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, no < 1379341565 488681 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does P'' count? < 1379341589 152977 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF is not a BF derivative < 1379341611 492473 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379341617 354525 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense, yeah < 1379341632 138742 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: is there a tool that explores the gaps between page's assigned floats to figure out which page is most heavily weighted? < 1379341634 234821 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I hypothetically uploaded the Ook! derivative I wrote when I was 12, would that count? < 1379341650 295099 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: not as far as I know < 1379341665 34266 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I still count BF derivative derivatives as BF derivatives < 1379341669 692071 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379341690 688928 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I lost the specs for my Ook! derivative < 1379341736 711414 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379341745 517241 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1379341808 81463 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF', a BF derivative < 1379341817 648839 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :BA-DUM TSH < 1379341829 318154 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1379341848 672379 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We had a similar conversation in another channel < 1379341920 133679 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were thinking of starting a cover band for a K-Pop group called f(x), just so that we could call ourselves df(x)/dx or f'(x) < 1379341980 533643 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, I haven't had much exposure to K-pop, I find the various groups very difficult to differentiate < 1379341981 870709 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, publish it, so i can write a tumblr entry decrying this crime against the perfect language < 1379342000 489735 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I think it's been completely lost now < 1379342012 677170 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :REWRITE IT < 1379342028 936088 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS WAS A THIRD OF MY LIFE AGO < 1379342040 88259 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'VE STARTED AND FINISHED HIGH SCHOOL SINCE I LAST READ IT < 1379342056 832009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/%E2%99%A6 < 1379342059 634804 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I can vaguely remember what it was like < 1379342067 261256 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i found something dumber than a brainfuck derivative < 1379342204 85185 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: there's a version in a more usual encoding at http://esolangs.org/wiki/%E2%99%A6/~ < 1379342231 402676 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1379342247 279019 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taned: To be honest, I can't really tell either - except for that one band that I like a lot. =P < 1379342251 31711 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and seriously, there are languages there that are worse than even the worst bf deriv < 1379342277 836644 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :name one that isn't in shameful < 1379342282 39328 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_, Phantom_Hoover: Like what? =P < 1379342291 510618 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Shameful < 1379342331 309338 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I was going to say Snack, but someone added it to Shameful while I wasn't paying attention < 1379342333 660686 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I disagree < 1379342361 129122 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to miss whatever is U+1A85... < 1379342386 661694 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Esme is an esoteric programming language[citation needed] created by User:Dagoth Ur, Mad God as a lol." < 1379342386 975520 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1379342388 800581 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just... wow. < 1379342421 768903 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shameful (which officialy does not exist) is reserved for only the very worst languages < 1379342432 727197 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Feather? < 1379342439 134889 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well except esme, which is the best < 1379342442 84972 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also read the talk page for Esme < 1379342486 221657 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. I see =P < 1379342493 479296 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i didn't notice quite how awful snack is < 1379342511 874622 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how there's a command in the reference interpreter which isn't in the spec < 1379342524 57474 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also like how i'm p. sure the reference interpreter shouldn't work at all < 1379342568 121140 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it doesn't? < 1379342569 869345 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. Okay, so the bar for my first esolang is pretty low, I guess. =P < 1379342587 823909 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You have eaten as a snack right 2 people." < 1379342589 90529 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think poison is the complete worst. < 1379342590 222979 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: to be fair, it requires a sort of perverse genius to create a language quite that bad < 1379342595 83373 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[PARSING ERROR]] < 1379342671 856665 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: It doesn't even do anything! It doesn't even have a POOP function! < 1379342688 349050 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I am not debating that that language is bad < 1379342693 121691 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1379342698 454107 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no point in arguing that that language is bad because everyone will agree with you < 1379342712 116711 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I was kidding =P < 1379342714 571824 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree about automatically agreeing. < 1379342922 646259 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i give up on this game < 1379343172 280716 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379343430 519840 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-169.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379343430 702402 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-169.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379343430 702539 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379343490 644249 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :henooodllo. < 1379343498 126428 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome audioPhil < 1379343501 18792 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14audioP07hil: Welcome 10to the internat03ional hub for esote02ric progr06ammi09ng11 lan13guage 04design and deploy05m02en03t! For more 10i10n02form05ation,10 03check out our wik07i: ht10tp://es12olangs02.org/wiki/M05a07in_Page. (For th13e07 other kind of eso09terica, 10try 11#esoteric on irc05.dal.net.) < 1379343523 427442 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379343696 510629 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, what a colorful welcome < 1379343698 444137 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1379343726 129851 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome audioPhil < 1379343728 384677 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :audioPhil: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1379343730 773585 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also non-ridiculous versions. < 1379343774 372608 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenue audioPhil < 1379343775 624639 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bienvenue: not found < 1379343778 224027 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1379343790 513525 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin < 1379343792 449754 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ ! \ ? \ ¿ \ @ \ ؟ \ ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ \  \  \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addwep \ allquotes \ anonlog \ aseen \ bienvenido \ botsnack \ bseen \ calc \ CaT \ catcat \ cats \ complain \ complaints \ danddreclist \ define \ delquote \ e \ emmental \ emoclew \ emptylist \ erflist \ etymology \ forget \ fortune \ freedom \ frink \ fsck \ fu < 1379343815 509940 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run catcat < 1379343817 314623 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379343819 968679 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379343822 530550 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1379343983 682330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379344099 625523 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like half the activity of this channel is creating new, ridiculous sorts of welcome sometimes < 1379344105 59517 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emoclew zzo38 < 1379344107 565806 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.ten.lad.cri no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) .egaP_niaM/ikiw/gro.sgnalose//:ptth :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW :83ozz < 1379344127 626573 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome is one of the more popular ones, though < 1379344131 317173 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​12is: one: 07of: the: mo14re: popular: o14n08es,: though: Welcome to the international 10hub for esoteric pr08ogramming lang14uage design and deployment! F04or more in10fo12rmat09ion, check out 02our wiki: 06http:05//esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the oth12er kind11 of esoter04ica09, try #esot07er02ic o02n irc.dal.net.) < 1379344138 154190 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: Don't forget the part where I cat stuff for no good reason < 1379344144 588155 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat | cat < 1379344146 211889 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1379344390 808215 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379344446 46584 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus the cuttle died < 1379345263 902868 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/scicurious-brain/2013/09/16/ignobels-2013-who-ate-the-dead-shrew-for-science/ < 1379345264 86405 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379345578 84696 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1379345593 933801 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379345982 592009 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1379346370 331059 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379346447 114763 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379347258 296666 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I deny the parboiled shrew. < 1379347651 298937 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Actually, there can be a purpose to | cat. < 1379347655 304752 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :isatty(1) < 1379348053 891812 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are things which like paging themselves unnecessarily < 1379348364 549195 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Well yeah. I just don't really do it for a good reason, that's all < 1379348422 187565 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at you, git < 1379348440 182763 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Hahaha, 'struth. < 1379348442 534118 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379348581 168118 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379348593 621069 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-169.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379348593 769355 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-169.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379348593 769491 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379348718 338609 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see use for | cat -e < 1379348760 306793 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "cat -e" is an abomination, is it not? < 1379348781 716732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not to mention oh so POSIX-incompliant.) < 1379348846 934184 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run man cat -e < 1379348848 867390 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :man: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config < 1379348852 278886 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1379348920 210354 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh gawd, cat -e is Satan incarnate. < 1379348944 27174 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What do you think of cat -n then?-) < 1379348956 534804 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sobs* < 1379348978 168092 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the solitary option that POSIX specifies (-u) is ridiculous. < 1379348979 539530 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat --checkmail < 1379349021 504870 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run man cat | grep '-e' < 1379349023 30111 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :man: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config \ grep: option requires an argument -- 'e' \ Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... \ Try `grep --help' for more information. < 1379349028 61665 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat --system echo hi # equivalent to echo hi | cat < 1379349154 841291 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric : henooodllo. <-- good stealth greeting i didn't notice < 1379349164 275854 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379349235 859718 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did anyone ever try to implement QuickSort in Brainfuck? < 1379349248 664006 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cause that is what I am trying to do. < 1379349303 897294 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'l bet you anything that several ones did < 1379349323 154592 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need to find them. That's why I'm asking < 1379349340 527566 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I don't NEED to. Would be just fine. < 1379349344 519982 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, every one here knows brainfuck and everyone here knows quicksort < 1379349353 775432 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what can we do you for? < 1379349390 961412 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing. I was just asking ^^ But you can look at my program so far if you want. < 1379349395 331951 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1379349398 680759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a StackExchange challenge for it, with one accepted answer. < 1379349417 126001 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's eminently findable with the search terms of "brainfuck quicksort".) < 1379349454 516823 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the hard part is if you're sorting an array in-place you need to remember the begin and end indexes of every sub-array you're "recursively" sorting < 1379349518 639555 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome S1 < 1379349518 822363 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i just code it in c and use the c to bf compiler < 1379349521 342953 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0403S1: W02elc14ome03 to t12h08e i10nternational 06hu04b for esoteric progra09mming langu09age des06ign and d11eployment! For more in04form03ation, check out our w02iki: h14tt14p://eso06l03angs.o14rg/wiki/Ma06in_Page. (F10or the other11 k14ind12 of esoteri10c07a,10 try #esoteric on i13rc.dal.net.) < 1379349536 668278 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah that'd be cheatin < 1379349589 259891 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I split the array in two, then recursively run the programm on each of the new two arrays. < 1379349601 523173 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think someone had a nice environment wwhere you could name variables and stuff < 1379349617 472892 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it replaces with the appropriate amount of > and < < 1379349617 691173 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I split it by moving the right part a few cells, so that there is some space in between. < 1379349625 678840 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO CHEATING! < 1379349628 162771 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://31.media.tumblr.com/c33227832138905c415ff573eae65a91/tumblr_msv9kcrYxt1sgh0voo1_500.png beware. < 1379349630 390642 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/pikhq/pebble < 1379349658 341192 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i write the compiler myself can it be not cheating < 1379349710 780684 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean you want to write a c to bf compiler in bf? Well if you can do that without using one from the internet and without writing the c to bf compiler in c and then compiling it to bf it's ok. < 1379349714 121548 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be cheating to build a boat to enter a swimming contest? < 1379349740 875343 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: Depends if you're swimming in BF-derivates, I'd guess < 1379349743 128914 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1379349745 768918 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think it's ok for you to write your own compiler yourself... but you're not allowed to compile it using another compiler < 1379349750 749005 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i if i write a c to bf compiler in c and use it to compile itself into bf < 1379349766 12257 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure that wouldn't work < 1379349769 909752 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on I think I made myself clear :D NO COMPILERS < 1379349770 55031 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379349776 829130 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :these requirements seem rather arbitrary! < 1379349795 798880 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly, can we not say that i myself am a compiler of a description of an algorithm into brainfuck < 1379349819 240547 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that were true we'd have to kill you < 1379349833 846241 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what! < 1379349843 36771 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No because you don't translate one thing to another but think about HOW to implement it in bf < 1379349863 398589 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the case: Human compilers allowed -_- < 1379349877 272504 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't "implementing program A in language B" mean compiling? < 1379349883 265103 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if you meet a compiler on the road, pkill it" -- lin chi < 1379349886 854500 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont think so < 1379349934 862965 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1, no, it does < 1379349948 878343 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey is there a simple "move n cells to the right" algorithm in brainfuck? where n is the content of the current cell (and you don't want to destroy it) < 1379350010 908770 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i doubt it < 1379350041 490401 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by moving the tape you lose all information on the content of n, essentially < 1379350041 772820 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can there be blank cells between the cells that are to be moved or am I allowed to create it? < 1379350084 154734 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe it would be a good idea to use every other cell for the array, and every other cell to store intermediate stuff to move along the array < 1379350086 664725 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing on http://esolangs.org/wiki/brainfuck_algorithms < 1379350087 732124 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I don't get the problem exactly. Please write an example. A state before the program and a state after it. < 1379350088 955063 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how terrible. < 1379350113 861819 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in brainfuck you can only move information a bit at a time, i guess < 1379350135 604353 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that bit has to correspond to whether or not some cell is zeroed < 1379350171 347095 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably write something to turn n{n{0}} into 0{n{1}} [totally appropriate use of verilog syntax < 1379350174 357715 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] < 1379350175 27054 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]]]]] < 1379350206 399644 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know I'm very uncomfortable with unmatched brackets < 1379350215 55727 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :« < 1379350254 916951 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379350272 16266 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :» < 1379350281 745832 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfiouuuu < 1379350340 88746 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\[/\]/g < 1379350353 956573 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that looks so wrongm < 1379350355 544678 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :-m < 1379350373 463452 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if that's what your verilog syntax meant but you could turn (n)(x)(0) into (0)(x)(n-1) if every other cell is a tmp cell < 1379350403 433399 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a bunch of tmp cells it's easy < 1379350407 266183 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus you've moved two cells right and the content of the current cell has been decreased; repeat until it's 0 and you're there < 1379350426 977480 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: when I write the whole brainfuck program, I've got AN INFINITY of tmp cells < 1379350441 899041 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so easy i'm confused why you asked < 1379350503 809621 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's horribly slow < 1379350524 255737 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need n^2 operations to move n cells < 1379350540 917671 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379350552 536814 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what screw brainfuck, I'm gonna write a sorting algorithm in thue < 1379350564 86966 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True? < 1379350586 934990 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Thue < 1379350625 922544 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow... < 1379350715 608204 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: i'm fascinated about subleq right now < 1379350788 653515 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtract and lsomething if equal < 1379350803 836403 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtract and branch if less than or equal to? < 1379350814 594706 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero, yes < 1379350835 122218 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, everything is a pointer < 1379350868 425961 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one instruction set computing < 1379351102 738227 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379351116 113377 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? my bot is dead??? < 1379351124 35439 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1379351127 669259 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379351127 814519 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP Cuttlefish < 1379351131 697363 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not < 1379351135 536004 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1379351135 800745 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Small Accumulating" to "Attending" < 1379351136 242700 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip. < 1379351167 107620 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pats his bot “Good bot. Yes you are.”
< 1379351316 722441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck cheese < 1379351316 953191 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheese definition: a food consisting of the coagulated, compressed, and usually ripened curd of milk separated from the whey. < 1379351340 32092 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that doesn't sound very appetizing >_> < 1379351342 324310 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379351368 48001 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck tendon < 1379351368 193679 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tendon definition: a tough cord or band of dense white fibrous connective tissue that unites a muscle with some other part (as a bone) and transmits the force which the muscle exerts. < 1379351389 745826 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when tendon sounds yummier than cheese, there's a problem. < 1379351419 22420 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course, tendon in phở is good, but that's besides the point.) < 1379351506 40748 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kinda disappointed < 1379351519 542688 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been looking for some thue-like that would accept variables < 1379351536 983073 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, some kind of pattern-matching < 1379351572 401397 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :variables how? < 1379351576 537633 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do I feel like we've had this conversation before < 1379351623 190652 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well variables may not be the best name < 1379351629 855510 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :regular expressions maybe < 1379351639 75105 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: because Koen__ likes variables. < 1379351648 392274 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've had, Roujo < 1379351659 185420 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I've looked up thutu and thubi < 1379351664 348277 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaand well < 1379351665 128986 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the tendon part as well < 1379351677 370622 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the closest thing to what I'm looking for is http://esolangs.org/wiki/Definer < 1379351711 688822 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlogs tendon < 1379351713 137211 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastlogs: not found < 1379351718 820514 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog tendon < 1379351750 387792 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379351764 333685 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: no, we never talked about tendons beforehand. < 1379351779 460835 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: Definer has a very l-system feel. < 1379351799 423830 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ~duck < 1379351814 194266 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-08-12.txt:18:43:00: ~duck i-esse-erre j'ai dit! < 1379351825 74691 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure that didn't work < 1379351898 313545 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ISR < 1379351898 469475 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isr definition: Israel; Israeli. < 1379351926 45427 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck asl < 1379351926 507967 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASL+ - An algebraic specification language by David Aspinall of the University of Edinburgh. < 1379352065 726491 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ok maybe < 1379352080 573440 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, I think all string-rewriting systems kinda feel alike < 1379352223 645592 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: in fact l-system looks a lot more like Thue than Definer, in my opinion < 1379352330 695624 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1379352342 647883 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION strokes his sandpapery beard stubble...
< 1379352540 608718 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1379352683 798023 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379352720 351314 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1379352903 294425 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379352913 267882 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Quite, quite < 1379353233 512209 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379353236 533651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379353244 689395 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1379353256 448574 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anothello ^^ < 1379353301 970725 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: would you say that, the ultimate purpose of a Snowflake program is to essentially produce an interpreter that does all of the work? < 1379353319 268736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: yes < 1379353341 372220 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think it's an interesting language < 1379353348 202811 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I don't fully understand the threads < 1379353356 738168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me a while to understand them too < 1379353381 775189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the idea is that fork splits every thread, spoon joins the split bunches, a thread can split into 0 threads but those 0 threads can still be split and joined < 1379353407 187164 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :do threads run in parallel as well or is that not a requirement? < 1379353407 467284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some entity (the shabby/decrepit threads) has to be added to track when that happens < 1379353419 221561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's unobservable whether they run in parallel or in order < 1379353424 759087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the spec assumes they run in parallel < 1379353430 915933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in sequence < 1379353480 938340 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what I specifically do not understand in the different types of threads (shabby, tarnished, shiny and deprecated) < 1379353489 781818 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*decrepit, sorry < 1379353570 692698 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379353589 926188 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, as far as I understand, you start with a single thread (which appearantly needs to have a parent as well, so you actually start with an infinite amount of threads?) < 1379353608 401495 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :then that thread can be split by a fork command < 1379353616 19603 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I recall, it's threads all the way up =P < 1379353650 459205 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lobs a mine-turtle over at Roujo
< 1379353658 23538 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't really see what's up with all the different types of threads < 1379353720 851871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, say I have a thread and I split it into two threads < 1379353731 766484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I split one of those threads into 3, and the other into 0 < 1379353735 621051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I split each of those 3 into 2 < 1379353746 414322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the group of 0 threads has to also split into 0, again < 1379353749 701236 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379353754 551265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I can undo those splits and should end up with the original organization < 1379353762 454395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite hard to track anything about a group of 0 threads < 1379353766 694959 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379353771 121052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I use a group of 1, with a different adjective, instead < 1379353813 726878 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1379353837 488670 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does splitting into 0 threads work? < 1379353844 823020 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :halt? < 1379353868 25760 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like not actually splitting it < 1379353880 813902 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although adding a new 0 thread) < 1379353893 621910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: basically you just add a shabby thread < 1379353896 875286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which represents the group of 0 < 1379353912 291616 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's pretty useful, you can use it to do conditionals < 1379353912 724814 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Is adding 0 to a number the same as not doing anything at all?" ~ Mao < 1379353919 951402 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must say i think of shabbiness as a property of ropes, not threads < 1379353922 271012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can't halt in a rereversible language < 1379353945 937641 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that different from reversibility < 1379353966 606689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's different in that in a reversible language, the steps to reverse it don't have to exist within the language itself < 1379354055 487391 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so what's the type of a non-zero thread? Do those have a type at all. Or is it not the sero thread that this given this type? < 1379354076 857573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, running threads are shiny < 1379354110 344382 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is no facility for entering comments, due for the tendency for documentation to get out of date quickly" i must say you do some crazy stuff < 1379354111 458402 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :threads that running threads split from (and that running threads will eventually join into) are tarnished < 1379354111 604474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :groups of 0 that would be currently running if they had any threads are shabby < 1379354111 604677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and groups of 0 that more groups of 0 have been split from are decrepit < 1379354241 960963 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see this is a snowflake discussion < 1379354246 688904 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish snowflake made sense < 1379354254 889929 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, you start with a tarnished thread? < 1379354273 227005 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: you start with a shiny thread < 1379354277 466311 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with infinitely many tarnished parents < 1379354283 68276 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see < 1379354305 461596 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I get that so far. I still don't get the decrepit and shappy threads though :( < 1379354331 66027 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically say I try to run FORK, with an empty list at TOS < 1379354331 250275 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Split a shiny thread to 0 children -> 1 Shabby thread < 1379354339 609494 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION faxes boily a treasure chest
< 1379354343 631763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it splits into 0 children, which has to be tracked somehow < 1379354346 773146 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Split a tarnished thread to 0 children -> 1 Decrept thread < 1379354350 886822 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decrepit* < 1379354356 53783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we create a shabby thread that basically just sits there and stops its parent running < 1379354362 488078 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see < 1379354366 368949 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :until you SPOON < 1379354371 841969 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens when you split a decrept thread though < 1379354376 737085 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote until you SPOON < 1379354380 682111 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: AAAAAAAAAAURGH! need to mail the biscuits! < 1379354380 827860 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1106) until you SPOON < 1379354390 4198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: they don't split < 1379354392 130818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they aren't running < 1379354397 966178 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only the shiny and shabby threads split < 1379354405 742321 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379354429 945228 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's okay, i haven't gone to gorham yet. i'm probably a week away still < 1379354464 477948 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I think I understand now < 1379354474 194435 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. < 1379354481 722187 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :interseting, but crazy < 1379354488 473641 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*interesting < 1379354490 323054 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, I think that's the closest I can get to mailing something to a *ham. < 1379354522 237405 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What if you mailed a ham to somewhere strange? < 1379354573 806492 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. considering my mail karma, I don't think it's a good idea. < 1379354579 549393 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if elliott mailed SIX hams to somewhere stranger. < 1379354593 515540 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That's overkill and you know it D: < 1379354595 130447 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still remembers that time where we tried to mail yak cheese from China...
< 1379354615 257204 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Express? Nahh, it's already rotten milk, how bad can it get?" < 1379354633 549853 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i c wut you did thar < 1379354657 31965 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glad somebody did. < 1379354674 134523 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION curses Gregor
< 1379354677 347047 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379354683 527251 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed it >_> < 1379354691 471852 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1379354693 347953 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1379354709 742580 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No soap, radio! < 1379354723 209517 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION laughs, everybody laughs, nobody knows why
< 1379354742 219323 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not cool, not funny, not a good joke < 1379354743 918929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: the problem is that the punchline is starting to become legitimately funny in random contexts through association < 1379354751 847751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which completely destroys its original purpose < 1379354763 189818 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which by itself is becoming an antiantijoke. < 1379354769 773087 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... Soap, no radio? < 1379354832 75920 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Soap -> Void) -> Radio < 1379354881 748411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Void is Haskell's name for the uninhabited type, right? < 1379354888 222525 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck void < 1379354888 519037 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :void definition: not occupied. < 1379354895 385916 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the duck agrees. < 1379354920 531585 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode WHITE SQUARE < 1379354922 399564 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​□ < 1379354935 399274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW < 1379354937 145822 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⛄ < 1379354945 979450 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap, the square isn't the same! < 1379354974 670899 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode BLACK SQUARE < 1379354976 378280 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​■ < 1379354976 945425 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode WHITE MEDIUM SMALL SQUARE < 1379354978 767334 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​◽ < 1379354982 542618 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, that looks white < 1379354982 688078 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's it < 1379354985 41866 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :not black < 1379354990 931947 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah what < 1379354992 966296 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh? `unicode is a new command? < 1379354997 479602 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode yes < 1379354999 359468 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'yes'" < 1379355000 577214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/unicode < 1379355002 131983 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys \ import unicodedata \ \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") < 1379355010 309442 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode a < 1379355011 68729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, yet another reason Python's whitespace thing sucks < 1379355011 672064 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'a'" < 1379355016 463312 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooooooh. < 1379355028 462483 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ùnicode A < 1379355030 47916 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379355032 960999 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode LATIN SMALL LETTER A < 1379355034 151813 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1379355039 82532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a post on a forum a while back which was meant to be Python but the whitespace was destroyed by the forum software… < 1379355048 197162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: do you use dead keys on your keyboard? < 1379355048 655185 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode GREEK SMALL LETTER X < 1379355050 53443 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'GREEK SMALL LETTER X'" < 1379355054 232554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably have to type ` space unicode < 1379355064 696659 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode GREEK ZETA < 1379355066 66850 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'GREEK ZETA'" < 1379355067 17862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode GREEK SMALL LETTER CHI < 1379355068 676856 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​χ < 1379355080 775232 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode GREEK SMALL LETTER ZETA < 1379355082 97482 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ζ < 1379355097 651178 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, that's what I'm supposed to do < 1379355109 726132 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just forget it often, since I don't need to do it to `run stuff < 1379355121 542802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1379355126 134561 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should map all of my keys + Alt Gr to greek equivalents < 1379355130 746194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems there's an ŕ, but you need to use combining characters to backquote an r < 1379355134 216221 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then again, that's by design, probably =P < 1379355137 629418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, grave an r < 1379355143 544967 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a dead key? =P < 1379355164 836991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: key with an accent that you press in order to accent the next letter you type < 1379355166 922124 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: si t'es sur le layout canadien français, c'est les touches qui font un accent, puis que t'appuies sur une autre touche après. < 1379355258 721095 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode HEBREW SMALL LETTER ALEPH < 1379355260 315699 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'HEBREW SMALL LETTER ALEPH'" < 1379355260 499634 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, cool < 1379355269 817874 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, boily: Yeah, I have dead keys then < 1379355278 877569 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just don't work on consonants =P < 1379355284 509651 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, maybe aleph is not a small letter < 1379355294 1386 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :àèìòù, but `b`c`d < 1379355298 820890 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode HEBREW ALEPH < 1379355300 447808 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'HEBREW ALEPH'" < 1379355304 553016 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode HEBREW LETTER ALEPH < 1379355305 813275 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'HEBREW LETTER ALEPH'" < 1379355309 739550 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up < 1379355325 193768 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't hackego like grep around for the closest thing that matches... < 1379355335 506645 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode CANADIAN SYLLABICS OY < 1379355336 904439 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᢰ < 1379355363 487240 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode UNMARRIED PARTNERSHIP SYMBOL < 1379355365 55578 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⚯ < 1379355366 409110 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: As you know full well, HackEgo can do only what you tell it to. < 1379355373 461157 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :exact;y < 1379355379 440131 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode COMBINING ENCLOSING UPWARD POINTING TRIANGLE < 1379355380 839921 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⃤ < 1379355383 540912 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes it can't even do that < 1379355387 777731 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run df -h . < 1379355389 778440 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :df: Warning: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory \ Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on \ - 23G 22G 28M 100% /hackenv < 1379355402 44083 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yikes >_> < 1379355410 382519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's taking up all that space anyway? < 1379355415 534618 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats, probabl y < 1379355416 428124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run du --si / < 1379355418 60117 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 /sys/fs/ext4/features \ 0 /sys/fs/ext4 \ 0 /sys/fs/cgroup \ 0 /sys/fs \ 0 /sys/bus/cpu/devices \ 0 /sys/bus/cpu/drivers \ 0 /sys/bus/cpu \ 0 /sys/bus/clocksource/devices \ 0 /sys/bus/clocksource/drivers \ 0 /sys/bus/clocksource \ 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices \ 0 /sys/bus/platform/drivers/uml-blkdev \ 0 /sys/bus/platform/drivers/alarmtimer \ 0 /sys < 1379355423 652186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was useful < 1379355426 548469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run du --si / | sort -n < 1379355435 439666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably going to time out :( < 1379355450 336224 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode MONGOLIAN FREE VARIATION SELECTOR THREE < 1379355453 719103 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​᠍ < 1379355457 922416 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :du: cannot read directory `/proc/tty/driver': Permission denied \ du: cannot read directory `/proc/1/task/1/fd': Permission denied \ du: cannot read directory `/proc/1/task/1/fdinfo': Permission denied \ du: cannot read directory `/proc/1/task/1/ns': Permission denied \ du: cannot read directory `/proc/1/fd': Permission denied \ du: cannot read dir < 1379355466 115516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run du / 2>/dev/null | sort -n < 1379355488 388086 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You won't be able to tell what's taking up the space because you can only see a tiny portion of a chroot. < 1379355490 353394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(normally you have to worry about reading /proc or the like, but the HackEgo sandbox means that everything is fine) < 1379355497 855418 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379355502 520669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: oh, I assumed it meant the /chroot/ was full < 1379355517 449427 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed the sandbox wouldn't be able to see outside its own filesystem even with df < 1379355523 133414 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ARABIC LIGATURE UIGHUR KIRGHIZ YEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE WITH ALEF MAKSURA ISOLATED FORM < 1379355525 140332 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'ARABIC LIGATURE UIGHUR KIRGHIZ YEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE WITH ALEF MAKSURA ISOLATED FORM '" < 1379355528 666967 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awwww < 1379355549 311231 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379355552 989801 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Naw, df is just mounted fs. The chroot has no quota anyway. < 1379355569 704747 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379355571 138965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then the chroot might /actually/ be full < 1379355575 873505 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably should be quota'd < 1379355596 874008 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naw, there's no point in quotaing the chroot. Quotaing HackEgo, yes. < 1379355756 324262 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chroot oerjan/ < 1379355759 64249 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: /hackenv/bin/chroot: Permission denied < 1379355761 803049 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quota < 1379355763 211350 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quota: not found < 1379355775 35572 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the sandbox built on these days? < 1379355785 963944 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chroot oerjan/ < 1379355787 992422 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1379355827 93719 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there not a command or whatever for telling you the free space left in a filesystem < 1379355830 748049 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379355839 216646 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: umlbox, like it has been for quite a long time. < 1379355849 619114 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Uh, yeah, df -h, like I ran two minutes ago. < 1379355851 248159 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that's what it's called < 1379355950 785882 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1379355962 706568 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379356189 611978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode HEBREW LETTER ALEF < 1379356205 593197 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​א < 1379356207 326529 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1379356248 228773 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ALEF SYMBOL < 1379356250 386515 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, alef, not aleph < 1379356256 828723 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ℵ < 1379356274 556822 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ALF < 1379356277 393897 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'ALF'" < 1379356281 134673 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379356317 441251 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode '; DROP TABLE CHARACTERS;-- < 1379356322 810396 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name ''; DROP TABLE CHARACTERS;--'" < 1379356341 936114 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ARABIC LIGATURE UIGHUR KIRGHIZ YEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE WITH ALEF MAKSURA ISOLATED FORM < 1379356343 775046 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ﯹ < 1379356354 644703 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379356376 229475 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW < 1379356377 469541 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⛄ < 1379356392 527202 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SUNSET OVER BUILDINGS < 1379356394 203330 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'SUNSET OVER BUILDINGS'" < 1379356394 827716 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode RANDOM CAPSLOCKED WORDS < 1379356397 209611 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'RANDOM CAPSLOCKED WORDS'" < 1379356398 223664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode TEACUP WITHOUT HANDLE < 1379356399 373307 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode TIBETAN MARK GTER YIG MGO -UM GTER TSHEG MA < 1379356399 982648 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'TEACUP WITHOUT HANDLE'" < 1379356400 910804 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​༃ < 1379356409 119966 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode UMBRELLA < 1379356410 679889 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☂ < 1379356414 29362 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode UMBRELLA WITH RAINDROPS < 1379356415 939152 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'UMBRELLA WITH RAINDROPS'" < 1379356416 84183 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f307/index.htm um excuse me. < 1379356418 566405 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode UMBRELLA WITH RAIN < 1379356420 349236 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'UMBRELLA WITH RAIN'" < 1379356420 494743 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode UMBRELLA WITH RAIN DROPS < 1379356422 260083 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☔ < 1379356423 415032 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, now! TEACUP WITHOUT HANDLE is U+1F375. < 1379356425 954554 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1379356443 643304 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode FIZZIE WITHOUT HANDLE < 1379356445 229466 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'FIZZIE WITHOUT HANDLE'" < 1379356450 193774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode GEAR WITHOUT HUB < 1379356451 917207 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⛭ < 1379356456 255944 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode FACE WITHOUT MOUTH < 1379356457 184991 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :🍵 < 1379356458 230250 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'FACE WITHOUT MOUTH'" < 1379356463 622730 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That, too, should exist. < 1379356471 95403 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: uhm. why would anyone need that. < 1379356471 299979 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Time to upgrade the Unicode database?) < 1379356513 361658 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :any appropriate ASCII symbol for "xor" that's not ^? < 1379356549 999117 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(+)" if you can go with multiple characters? < 1379356569 78086 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: ⊗ U+2297. < 1379356572 449838 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I can gowith multiple characters < 1379356581 835431 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: not unicode < 1379356592 746199 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. right. < 1379356598 172719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know about (+), it's kind of silly. < 1379356608 888674 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe "xor" is just fine < 1379356661 675904 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode XOR < 1379356663 787879 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⊻ < 1379356671 478386 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that's not ASCII < 1379356672 790916 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVERMIND < 1379356682 104174 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But still, apparently that's a thing) < 1379356785 154346 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe ↑, that's ASCII(-1963). (Except it's really for NAND.) < 1379356807 149254 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :NAND = XOR for some values, doesn't it? < 1379356810 500604 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Close enough for me < 1379356827 582344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For most values, even. < 1379356837 218337 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: != < 1379356849 644614 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's always >< too. < 1379356856 19764 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooo, nice < 1379356861 95653 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>|< < 1379356869 457028 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=>|<= < 1379356950 498001 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any 4+ punctuation symbol operators defined in the currently available Haskell libraries, or have the multiple developers stuck to at most three-character-wide ops? < 1379356999 816572 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something ridiculensous, like ~+^.? < 1379357009 190405 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lens has a few < 1379357014 86924 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like ^@!? < 1379357027 899259 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and <<.~ < 1379357033 953645 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1379357047 118703 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<<%@= < 1379357049 30640 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is the new perl. < 1379357054 813438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is the gnu perl < 1379357056 474116 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't all of them, mind you. just a few < 1379357058 856393 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a whole bunch < 1379357077 324897 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uikku syö muikun. < 1379357115 572497 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oui qu'où sue eux mou y coup ne? < 1379357146 782429 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: je ne même pas < 1379357172 12195 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: google translate is no help here. «Grebe manger corégone.» < 1379357206 663752 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corégone is best gone < 1379357230 596632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That seems to have been mostly correct. < 1379357261 323805 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the English version has “whitefish” replacing the «corégone», and the verb is correctly conjugated. < 1379357288 478070 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck grebe < 1379357288 623665 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A grebe is a member of the Podicipediformes order, a widely distributed order of freshwater diving birds, some of which visit the sea when migrating and in winter. < 1379357293 813408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, French-to-English "corégone" says "whitefish", too. < 1379357311 567411 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I have a feeling it's a Traditional Old Finnish Proverb in Harmony with Nature or Something Like That. < 1379357319 193705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's just nonsense. < 1379357340 155765 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps a humid salmon on fizzie
< 1379357381 181037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But fi:uikku -> grebe, fi:muikku -> vendace (which, I believe, is a kind of whitefish). < 1379357393 681927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course they have that similarity. < 1379357431 698108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And those birds do eat fish. I'm not a 100% on whether they eat that particular kind. < 1379357473 59499 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, whitefishes are a kind of salmonidæs. < 1379357496 757799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lake trout: no lake, no trout < 1379357516 61384 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :o>O < 1379357527 503584 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps kmc with a large salmon
< 1379357539 228265 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might want to get that nose checked, trout < 1379357583 593513 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (<+?.*<$>?@%?.*<$>) = const in 3 <+?.*<$>?@%?.*<$> 4 < 1379357584 885014 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 < 1379357613 473103 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck am i reading < 1379357705 748377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fungot am I reading < 1379357706 178588 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: shouldn't ghc substitute enough things at compile time it gives " fnord" in there, either. < 1379357802 435133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: you didn't see that. your brain is playing tricks on your eyes. fnord. hth. < 1379357810 825907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Oh, incidentally, for ridiculous operators... XMonad.Layout.LayoutCombinators introduces *||*, **||*, ***||*, ****||*, ***||**, ****||***, ***||****, *||****, **||***, *||*** and *||**, plus all those with either //, | or / in place of the ||. < 1379357820 533419 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, how i missed that hth here all the time < 1379357827 964103 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what. < 1379357842 559602 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/xmonad-contrib/0.11/doc/html/XMonad-Layout-LayoutCombinators.html < 1379357873 585441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ascii operator art. well, I'll be damned. < 1379357873 730569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number of stars gives the ratio in which screen space is divided. < 1379357888 495339 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is so wrong on so many levels. < 1379357911 202007 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And || vs // is vertical/horizontal, and two-vs-one separator is draggable-or-not.) < 1379357922 193329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(****||***) = combineTwo (dragPane Vertical 0.1 (4/7)) < 1379357937 830995 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely, utterly disgusting and horrendous. < 1379357951 745124 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if i want 5/13? < 1379357976 156589 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Then you're outta luck, I'm afraid. < 1379357992 561853 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thecodelesscode.com/case/109 < 1379358001 234409 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should introduce *****||******** < 1379358067 214989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Also the <&&> and <||> in XMonad.ManageHook (part of the core XMonad) do (just barely) fill your "4+ punctuation" requirement. < 1379358097 575406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :((<&&>) = liftM2 (&&), and the same for ||.) < 1379358100 860948 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379358119 704825 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should put the threshold at 4.5 characters, as <&&> and <||> seem reasonable. < 1379358141 873721 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah, I correctly guessed their purpose. the applicative/monadic variant of && and ||. < 1379358187 721400 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: XMonad.Hooks.ManageHelpers comes with <==?, >, and -?>> too. (I think I've used that last one, which is why I remembered to go look for it.) < 1379358208 172708 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8==> < 1379358258 304552 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379358260 386218 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have left fat arrow, left weird existential fat arrow, right lean prickly arrow, right questioning prickly arrow, and then we have myname's dangling arrow. < 1379358316 672504 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't get me wrong, i really like haskell < 1379358323 92861 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... < 1379358404 30190 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fortune < 1379358404 214801 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conservative, n: < 1379358404 214906 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished < 1379358404 214958 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the Liberal who wishes to replace them with others. < 1379358404 215003 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" < 1379358437 455249 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. < 1379358464 373017 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-169.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379358469 208025 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-169.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379358469 353154 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379358749 969811 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. it's been a long time since I've asked the The Question to anybody. I feel... weird. < 1379358870 887996 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask me! < 1379358872 115306 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASK ME! < 1379359038 17105 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well... Roujo, what are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? < 1379359054 541892 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :null < 1379359056 964951 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1379359058 755546 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait wait < 1379359060 900254 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wasn't it < 1379359066 828235 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :My script just didn't work TT_TT < 1379359081 19516 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. your 何マクロ. < 1379359100 825629 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd /nani you, but I've heard that *that* script somehow PMs everyone in the channel < 1379359103 285752 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So meh =P < 1379359141 637096 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your script has that very interesting side-effect, maybe you could have a /hth >:) < 1379359201 37595 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[kornbluth.freenode.net][421] Roujo hth :Unknown command < 1379359203 553163 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: btw, could I get a real body weigh for your entry? I only have "403", without any unit. < 1379359235 128080 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :403: Forbidden? =P < 1379359283 130292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prods Roujo with an automated squirrel feeder
< 1379359295 375006 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :180 lbs, then =P < 1379359297 378922 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379359302 854491 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :More or less - it's been a while < 1379359316 766916 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :merci! < 1379359324 552939 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pas de probl < 1379359326 544506 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ème =) < 1379359636 529837 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used a tanebvention with actual results. < 1379359639 830249 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Taneb < 1379359641 259894 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Taneb. Thaneb. < 1379359665 338556 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any time, boily < 1379359683 323211 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any toily. < 1379359876 261374 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks  < 1379359877 549350 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, . T. < 1379359881 874730 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379359894 538096 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1379359925 493000 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks  < 1379359927 140517 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, . T. < 1379359970 120865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bikello. < 1379360004 177075 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bike hello < 1379360005 611464 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bike: not found < 1379360011 505413 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1379360038 577106 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We really should make it so that `run executes a random program if the correct one isn't found < 1379360123 142632 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or: no < 1379360138 812400 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way lies php < 1379360171 893669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? php < 1379360173 986164 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP is preferred by 9 out of 10 idiots, and past elliott. Ask your GP today! [Website redacted] < 1379360187 900436 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what really < 1379360195 552894 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you certify randomizing unknown HackEgo commands will lead to PHP? < 1379360203 968400 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379360236 108955 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I started programming with PHP. < 1379360249 50480 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1379360255 355878 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I was 8 < 1379360256 332866 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if that's worse than starting with qbasic < 1379360257 274120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have you recovered? < 1379360258 418533 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thining yes < 1379360272 803660 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qbasic is a pretty good way to start, I think < 1379360273 775015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started with GW-BASIC. < 1379360295 387297 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was nice how my normal windows system already had qbasic so i didn't have to deal with installing anything. < 1379360304 334111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started with BBC Basic, unless you count pressing random keys in front of a Pascal interpreter when I was a baby < 1379360317 164506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiler+IDE, not interp < 1379360325 760282 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does windows have any built in ides nowadays? < 1379360330 424425 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody, think of the children. < 1379360334 476035 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started with Visual Basic 2005 < 1379360363 615486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: does powershell count? < 1379360375 766947 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh... i guess. < 1379360380 588935 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I sort of remember pressing random keys on my dad's computer when I was 3 or 4 < 1379360386 436103 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know what they would have done < 1379360395 419447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely, not a lot < 1379360405 257379 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started with BASIC on a TRS-80 ^^ < 1379360417 760796 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was good at filling screens full of text manually < 1379360424 586369 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to talk about random keys i was trying to make a Frogger sequel in actionwhatever when i was like eight :p < 1379360438 61994 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copying pages of code from books I got at the library < 1379360440 930675 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever seen animation of a plane crashing made by a child in ms paint < 1379360442 737231 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good stuff imo < 1379360443 216643 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow, that was fun ^^ < 1379360597 631189 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I still have mine, somewhere at my parents'. < 1379360681 897591 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=) < 1379360715 141510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379360823 136058 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tell us about your childhood BASIC experiences. < 1379360861 347803 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Please do < 1379360954 679083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, like, my dad is a (now retired) telecom engineer, and way back he went on this BASIC course, i think. < 1379360987 121906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he brought back a BASIC textbook (in swedish) < 1379361004 542064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that i actually learned basic before i ever used a computer. < 1379361056 882763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall i even wrote a complex number calculator of sorts. iirc still without a computer. < 1379361057 282416 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1379361057 994601 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1379361069 946550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a bit unclear about that part. < 1379361187 456199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at one point my dad brought home a printer with a modem, with which we connected to a computer server of the telecom service. this was my first hands on computer experience, i think. also BASIC. < 1379361209 187489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, typewriter with a modem. < 1379361251 433597 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379361266 911087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i recall seeing an apple (2?) while on holiday visiting some friends of a friend of my mother. i think i made it display a norwegian flag. with BASIC. < 1379361278 711571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+computer < 1379361362 943367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a couple years later my dad bought an oric-1 computer, which i still should have in the storage in the basement of this building. also BASIC, which i played with for many years. < 1379361410 122668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrible interference with the television you connected it to, btw < 1379361464 166349 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you burned a norwegian flag onto some CRTs? < 1379361506 603615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cassette storage, which i basically never bothered with - i kept typing programs in fresh everytime. including a disassembler. i recall there was an assembly instruction reference in the manual, which was missing pages. < 1379361566 885336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: um... < 1379361586 757048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(6502 assembly, fwiw) < 1379361613 858597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was given a tutorial on writing asm for BBC microcomputers < 1379361619 91926 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, a big manual thing < 1379361619 237051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not a reference manual < 1379361619 899693 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was basically just full of examples < 1379361620 845987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and finshed with a 16-bit divide < 1379361624 480912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, BBC micro was 6502 too < 1379361706 419878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there were two cassettes with programs included, of which my cousin managed to destroy one with a magnet. the other was an adventure game named Zodiac, the cassette had a slow loading side and a fast loading side, the latter never worked. < 1379361710 936323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1379361737 752251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a text adventure < 1379361812 528719 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember copying a blackjack game from a manual. I never had to see the colour version of it, since the only TV at my disposition at the time that worked with the TRS was an old black&white ~12" cube. < 1379361821 974925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume it might have worked with a better cassette player. < 1379361987 486769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote mandelbrot in it, i recall. < 1379362082 431142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :after a while he bought an ibm pc. if it had basic i never found it. got turbo pascal and masm, though. < 1379362085 135104 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, the mandelbrot set looks great with floating point rounding errors < 1379362096 289349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the rounding errors look like little distorted mandelbrot sets of their own < 1379362114 204043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*compatible, possibly < 1379362121 281229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: huh < 1379362164 170222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well the real set also has little distorted mandelbrot sets in it. i even recall some seminary in complex analysis at the university explaining why. < 1379362185 566200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but they're not entirely disconnected from it < 1379362189 789255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the rounding errors are < 1379362193 444489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1379362219 556276 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck little distorted madelbrot < 1379362219 701502 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379362226 742798 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck little distorted mandelbrot < 1379362226 888383 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379362275 197636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am not sure that is the technical term < 1379362355 226145 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck technically correct little distorted mandelbrots < 1379362355 411064 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379362380 954822 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wikipédia mentions a "distorted" in the article, but no explanation why. < 1379362391 824159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck the best kind of correct little distorted mandelbrots < 1379362392 113812 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379362481 368902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, _google_ also has turned into https... < 1379362531 437590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did google change or did IE itself change... < 1379362618 156866 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :google has defaulted to https for a while now, I think < 1379362633 455976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps everyone got so fed up with the NSA stuff they decided to turn all the websites as redirecting http to https < 1379362652 121766 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://googleblog.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/making-search-more-secure.html < 1379362655 171132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i haven't noticed before. < 1379362684 665164 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the NSA stuff claims to be able to break SSL under at least some circumstances, I think? < 1379362687 531667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's if you're signed in. i don't have an account. < 1379362711 984147 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :break implementations of SSL, anyways < 1379362737 326484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i just found it a bit weird that google and wikipedia changed at nearly the same time, afaict < 1379362751 811625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and only noticed because zzo38 commented on the latter) < 1379362765 287918 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia did it specifically because of the NSA, iirc < 1379362771 191775 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the platonic ideal of ssl, that's still safe!! < 1379362773 981262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1379362785 947514 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, shachaf is placated. < 1379362841 9716 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: eh? < 1379362851 587779 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the "eh" at < 1379362873 272819 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-71-171-202.twcny.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379362909 751785 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: why is shachaf placated? < 1379362911 214258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: he's just being canadian < 1379362912 531006 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome iconmaster < 1379362915 446920 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07i03conmas05ter: Welc05ome to t14h07e 14international hub for esoteric12 programming l07anguage design06 14and deploym07ent! For more informat09io12n, check out our wik12i:02 03ht03tp://esol07angs.org/wiki/Main_Pag10e. (09Fo05r04 th02e other k04ind of e13soterica, t08ry #esoteric on i03rc04.dal04.net.) < 1379362929 316164 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: because whenever an http wikipedia link is posted he asks for https < 1379362931 41089 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also this. I have a canadian quota to fulfill. < 1379362936 335704 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oooooh. < 1379363029 569980 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… the stereotypes of Canadians are quite similar to the stereotypes of Brits < 1379363066 20884 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, shit, i just noticed "eh" as canadian. < 1379363126 702327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… this reminds me of something bizarre I saw at a train station recently < 1379363130 159619 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Canadians are a mix of Brits, Irishmen and Scotsmen, with Ukrainians and probably just about any other nationality. < 1379363144 579424 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that I'd have photographed and submitted to TDWTF if I thought of it at the time and owned a camera/cameraphone < 1379363152 927410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so are Brits ;) < 1379363177 240849 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and then we have ass-backwards members of the Provincial Government that put forth a stupid «Charte des Valeurs Québécoises».) < 1379363209 689414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, it was showing expected arrival times for trains < 1379363228 570071 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :including both 13:50 and 02:40 < 1379363243 470862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of those trains were like 12 hours 15 minutes late, predicted < 1379363256 411833 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only assume there was some stupid mishap converting between 12h and 24h clocks < 1379363259 2033 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh! mentioning Brits and locations and stuff, and then checking the File to see where you are from, it seems you still aren't in there. < 1379363270 692274 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so... what are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? < 1379363278 620988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know my body weight < 1379363286 709503 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, did you just mix 24 hour and 12 hour notations < 1379363286 953097 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can figure out the coordinates from my email address < 1379363292 525099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no, the train station did < 1379363294 17738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1379363306 792315 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh that's much less aaaah < 1379363317 448610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could interpret the 02:40 as 12 hour, but not with the times > 12:59 showing on the same board < 1379363325 384749 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: [ais523] (~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523): (this is obviously not my real name) < 1379363337 592192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, theory: the times were 12:50 and 01:40 in the 12 hour clock, UTC < 1379363344 989214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it added 1 hour for daylight savings < 1379363350 237471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: psst he's in birmingham, unless he's moved < 1379363369 718862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is stupid, but not as stupid as most of the other possible explanations < 1379363392 379600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's come up often enough i don't consider it secret. < 1379363396 240807 :S1!d9fcad9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.173.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379363453 301100 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'll put that as a temporary answer. I'm using advanced devious social techniques to extract his email from the Intarwebs. < 1379363464 166960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1379363491 67686 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :techniques aka sending him an email through the Wiki. < 1379363501 430434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :devious < 1379363517 707136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know that only works if he responds, right? < 1379363545 899392 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. I'm waiting for a kind response. it should come soon, no? < 1379363556 18774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: alternate method, start playing agora < 1379363556 978156 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily just has to craft an email ais can't resist responding to < 1379363561 249360 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: re your email: hi! < 1379363564 642408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-iv- < 1379363568 440888 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow ais is good at this < 1379363576 316877 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll have to be more cleverer < 1379363587 100734 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. foiled again! < 1379363626 415739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote birmingham < 1379363628 489796 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379363630 708821 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dear AIS, I am a general from the deposed Quebec Republic. I need to transfer a few million quedollars out of the country and would like to transfer to you if possible to avoid suspicion. You will of course be paid greatly for this service..." < 1379363645 885624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -i birmingham wisdom/* < 1379363649 810507 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379363673 425715 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION falls to the ground, laughing
< 1379363675 558915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :our files are mysteriously missing all birmingham information. this can be no coincidence. < 1379363686 705825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that surprised me too < 1379363699 245930 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-169.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379363704 955984 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-169.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379363705 101182 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379363745 16489 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION puts on some Agora (http://youtu.be/1l6LE2yCdQ0), wears a +3 nightgown of ais523-seduction, and whispers “Give me your coördinates...”
< 1379363788 203300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think you are misunderstanding. i mean that if you played agora, you'd get to see some actual emails from him. < 1379363801 25896 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you just read the archives < 1379363816 693082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well some forms of the archives hide the email address < 1379363903 889600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :entirely, or just obfuscate it? < 1379363910 192798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember < 1379363911 72964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're more likely to hide the ais523 bit than the domain < 1379363930 579215 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs .ac.uk < 1379363935 554509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in this thread I complain about #haskell in #rust and others respond by saying #rust can't have these problems because everyone is so nice! < 1379363939 902801 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little grepping and whoising, I have Edgbaston. < 1379363985 408402 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if you could hire a sociologist to determine a good way to make people in a dedicated group like #rust not be shits < 1379363986 939483 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.29526 < 1379363992 570062 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :important research project possibilities imo < 1379364012 938382 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that didn't work. < 1379364035 717594 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, except for all the "ais.*bham" in there i guess. < 1379364044 114621 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, well, well, well < 1379364059 762051 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edgbaston is where the University of Birgmingham is. < 1379364063 328751 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well people aren't being shits now < 1379364073 773575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I don't think the problems of #haskell have manifested yet < 1379364081 566169 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1379364083 323184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that whois mention gave me an idea, which unfortunately doesn't work. ais523, the address you gave on the nethack4.org whois gives me grave doubts of your lawful goodness. < 1379364086 131190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I brought them up as part of a conversation there, and now I kind of feel like I need to explain my view < 1379364096 254581 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i mean "we're nice" is a classically bad solution to those inevitabilities < 1379364097 803812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you can't solve all community problems by being nice < 1379364098 957235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379364103 435265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I also have an axe to grind about #haskell so whatever < 1379364141 753500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it does say it's obfuscated. < 1379364145 968715 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but #haskell can't be all bad. I mean, the /topic was defined by shachaf! < 1379364190 200071 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's tough because I think niceness is really lacking in tech communities and should be encouraged (see: linus torvalds is a dick) < 1379364194 741711 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not a panacea < 1379364231 850260 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it reminds me of a friend I had who used to hang around the gitp forums, she was explaining how like, the rules basically mandated niceness, so what trolls/jerks would do is try to get other people caught by the rules < 1379364236 338793 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while sticking to the letter < 1379364238 690650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1379364240 728023 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1379364240 873151 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helliora. < 1379364242 169822 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gitp?) < 1379364250 919090 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! Are the codu.org logs broken? < 1379364253 296023 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: (guess exactly what happened on tvtropes) < 1379364271 828164 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(giant in the playground, apparently) < 1379364274 174434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think #rust could avoid the "information only available on IRC" problem, anyway, because Rust is still changing so fast that there is literally no time to write everything down < 1379364276 81581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: actually there was an epic troll on the gitp forums today < 1379364276 708001 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: try the [text] link instead, i don't know what's up < 1379364287 214194 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck gitp < 1379364287 359676 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Order of the Stick From Left to Right: Belkar, Vaarsuvius, Elan, Haley, Durkon, and Roy. < 1379364310 181437 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically exploiting the tl;dr phenomenon to make a lot of people look stupid < 1379364336 926641 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually raised a huge stink there once back when i cared 'cos a guy got banned for insulting someone who'd said something racist in a nice way for the thousandath time < 1379364351 302836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302960 if anyone's interested < 1379364365 586703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the first sentence, then scroll down to see all the people who didn't < 1379364369 758235 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to this day, classicists skeeve me right the fuck out. < 1379364490 863514 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one is tarqin again? elan's dad? < 1379364506 700803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes < 1379364527 453444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that he has a bunch of fans in the forum despite being obviously evil < 1379364548 351279 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1379364569 208155 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gitp is in a universe where "lawful good" is part of physics, you'd think that would discourage that sort of thing < 1379364603 267754 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it's some sort of GitP versus TV Tropes war < 1379364615 738675 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, please don't tell me any more about this. < 1379364637 409856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1379364644 446779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though I find it hilarious, I'll stop < 1379364662 740387 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1379364670 938376 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyway how about those esolangs < 1379364682 773180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well I did Snowflake < 1379364696 423119 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right i was reading that article before < 1379364771 941105 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... kind of hard to understand < 1379364773 110143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTA V comes out tomorrow < 1379364837 995338 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Montréal's been plastered with stupid ads recently for that game. mainly boobs. < 1379364857 87333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1379364861 484289 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :saints row is already parodying it, i guess < 1379364868 733820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's been the case for years yeah < 1379364877 665439 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean gta specifically < 1379364882 805744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like boobs, but I might be ambivalent to negative about their use in advertising < 1379364891 855449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an ais523 wall of text. i drifted off when it started explaining how the program modifies itself. < 1379364903 4461 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that was kind of my reaction too >_< < 1379364909 53064 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, which reminds me < 1379364922 94983 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to have to write an interp and a program, I guess < 1379364922 241995 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is there any chance i could understand checkout if i made a little cpu on moy fpga < 1379364923 430460 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think that's bad try http://esolangs.org/wiki/Checkout :P < 1379364927 920836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow snap. < 1379364929 937050 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :high five elliott < 1379364936 442325 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/moy/my/ < 1379364939 866234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hey, no fair, I can't keep Checkout straight either < 1379364954 875683 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm going to take that as a no < 1379364960 813455 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas I have a pretty good intuitive understanding of Snowflake < 1379364992 843962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might be clearer as two separate languages < 1379365000 197103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one that's just the original language < 1379365006 114601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one that does the self-modification < 1379365021 514941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but basically, it's as complex as it is because I wanted the language to actually work < 1379365393 720804 :S1!d9fcad9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.173.154 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379365447 313550 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0550321311002938#aff019 academia is great < 1379365571 541735 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: uhm. the page, it is borken. < 1379365626 553453 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks fine to me < 1379365633 205013 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your browser isn't prepared for this level of authorship < 1379365665 441026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus < 1379365670 507193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that averyone who worked on the LHC? < 1379365704 417276 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's a paper about the classification of finite simple groups with a similarly long authors list < 1379365733 684239 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATLAS_experiment sorta < 1379365763 162633 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says the finite simple groups paper only has a hundred authors. boring! < 1379365787 871536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not one paper. < 1379365930 504337 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://i.imgur.com/hYxPyaR.png < 1379365952 758691 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does sciencedirect normall do that for you < 1379365977 82665 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1379365989 989064 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1379366014 839953 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the home page is fine. as soon as I search for something, it borkenifies itself. < 1379366113 607508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe try that for screenreaders link? < 1379366139 235881 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it spins... < 1379366151 548282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ur fuked ok < 1379366195 819724 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ghc < 1379366204 37768 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379366204 343118 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc: no input files \ Usage: For basic information, try the `--help' option. < 1379366206 691677 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1379366243 967818 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: O KAY. < 1379366244 602082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ghc -e 'putStr "Hi!"' < 1379366252 503806 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1379366297 463069 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ghc -e 'print [1..]' < 1379366301 797442 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,11 < 1379366359 874006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good thread < 1379366363 298364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should i read it < 1379366369 313287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1379366377 867216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ghc -e 'let s = show s in s' < 1379366383 334484 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ < 1379366452 648089 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachello. < 1379366479 777247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1379366495 910137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't make up my mind about being in this channel now < 1379366601 748376 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to point out that I, Bike, am here < 1379366693 690256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but you're also in #lisp < 1379366704 545242 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh snap...................... < 1379367078 249342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you used to be #haskell "not anymore????" < 1379367094 345351 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was there for like five minutes < 1379367098 528639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my sister is a big fan of the gitp forums it turns out < 1379367111 924205 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's my fault < 1379367150 119454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever Bike is not in the room, all of the other characters should be asking "Where's Bike?" < 1379367155 535194 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: seems like #lisp is a nice place. «ARGH ELISP». < 1379367164 418077 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379367166 39554 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379367241 937168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lisp 'lisbon) ; ==> t < 1379367251 508918 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there is a pretty sad amount of smug vapid complaints about other languages, but i've seen that in every other language channel i've been in too so *shrug* < 1379367285 570678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the really advanced language channels have smug vapid complaints about their own language too < 1379367302 635470 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379367317 123705 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should just join ###biology and part all other channels < 1379367357 296665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> concat $ fix (map (('(':).(++')').concat) . inits) < 1379367358 192105 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[GHC.Types.Char]' < 1379367358 336068 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual ty... < 1379367393 434549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :##bike still exists < 1379367406 16825 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> concat $ fix (map (('(':).(++")").concat).inits) < 1379367406 946482 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()((... < 1379367418 564701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1379367422 923971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it even allows people to join it, strangely enough < 1379367526 180054 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate ('(':).(++")")) "" < 1379367527 123779 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:23: parse error on input `)' < 1379367546 925803 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, whatever, then. < 1379367564 525336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the same thing though < 1379367567 459594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: your lisp joke is so highbrow < 1379367572 351387 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my what < 1379367585 41800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's oerjan's < 1379367585 186927 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is that what oerjan was doing < 1379367589 466377 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wanted to see if i could fix it, lol < 1379367600 54755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> concat $ fix (map (('0':).(++"1").concat).inits) < 1379367601 37927 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "01001100100111001001100100111100100110010011100100110010011111001001100100... < 1379367612 264680 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379367613 1439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sequence is that < 1379367624 194589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck if i know < 1379367635 682443 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the boily sequence < 1379367638 244602 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/Haynes1980/status/291958991704178688 < 1379367721 428813 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bbs.emath.ac.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=386 ← longer sequence subset, which has exactly 1 hit on google. < 1379367768 267487 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what “你厉害 0100110010011100100110010011110010011001001,,,” means, but it seems the Chinese people are onto something... < 1379367773 953378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: googlewhack :) < 1379367842 801105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :chinese children, even < 1379367965 662944 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone who speaks one of the Chinese languages in this fine chännel? < 1379367966 3095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw if you're wondering it's essentially a list of von neumann numerals < 1379367974 194200 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck von neumann numeral < 1379367974 339560 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379367990 887559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia: you really should know that < 1379368001 378423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's ordinal < 1379368008 391849 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck von neumann ordinal < 1379368008 537153 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379368012 844708 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379368026 260236 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike died both from here and #lisp. < 1379368046 872099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinal_number#Von_Neumann_definition_of_ordinals < 1379368048 691137 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379368116 825465 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can't parse that. the mathematese is too heavy. < 1379368172 69392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 0 = {}, 1 = {0}, 2 = {0,1}, 3 = {0,1,2} , ... < 1379368220 756724 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh. < 1379368229 621222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then remove the commas and turn braces into parens < 1379368253 261631 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it becomes underload programs! < 1379368280 428609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (())(:~:S:a*~:^):^ < 1379368280 573863 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S ...too much output! < 1379368282 802156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1379368293 629879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (())(~:S:a*~:^):^ < 1379368293 775073 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :()()(())()(())(()(()))()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))))()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()(()))(()(()) ...too much output! < 1379368301 782744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm not quite < 1379368389 8816 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people on #lisp seem to have a cheeky markovian bot too. fungot, how do you feel about that? < 1379368389 242508 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ah. not really < 1379368424 356839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ()(~:a*:S~:^):^ < 1379368424 543131 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :()()(())()(())(()(()))()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))))()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()(()))(()(()) ...too much output! < 1379368428 882111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1379368457 958611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ()(~:a*:aS~:^):^ < 1379368458 103749 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(( ...too much output! < 1379368469 461807 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I see what yeta did there. < 1379368475 939659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm missing one < 1379368494 217441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ()(~:aSa*~:^):^ < 1379368494 362690 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :() ...out of stack! < 1379368497 33131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1379368499 148853 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1379368503 503244 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. < 1379368536 965984 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nice to know your bosomed < 1379368539 164834 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever that means < 1379368547 146874 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're* < 1379368550 353719 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379368551 670978 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... I'm feminine. < 1379368556 637424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ()(~:aS:a*~:^):^ < 1379368556 782675 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(()) ...too much output! < 1379368562 619799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1379368600 537572 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan managed to von neumann the von neumann while he von neumanned in a von neumann. < 1379368641 644664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn straight! < 1379368669 994425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which proves that von neumann was a smurf. < 1379369475 240339 :Yonkie!~Yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379369550 368994 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379369582 484626 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379369715 338971 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-201-73.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379369756 602003 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Yonkie < 1379369763 316706 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​11Yonkie: 02Welcome to the 02inte03r07national 03h03u03b for esoteric14 programming languag10e design11 and depl13oyme06nt! For more info08rmation, c11heck 02ou05t our 06wiki: http://esolan08gs.org/wiki/Main13_P06a12ge. (Fo05r 12the other kind 06of e06soterica12, 05t07ry #es13oteric on irc.dal09.ne02t.) < 1379369882 792136 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379369884 491863 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379369889 15840 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another? < 1379369927 235623 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. I missed the earlier one :/ < 1379369929 888041 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my fault < 1379369938 269014 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this incident will be reported < 1379370087 4488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, sudo quotes :( < 1379370095 160507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has so many ridiculous quotes, and yet people pick that one < 1379370186 686633 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was surprised to find that it actually does report those incidents (if you e.g. configure outgoing mail), I got the report once < 1379370231 399516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I've got them too < 1379370243 132238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, I found them just sitting in root's mailbox < 1379370256 134358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get /why/ it reports them < 1379370266 592694 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you have to enable insults in order for sudo to give you the interesting messages. < 1379370271 321313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given how you could write a wrapper around sudo that makes your experiments go unreported < 1379370307 231065 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wouldn't that be a bug in sudo? < 1379370310 356495 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe anybody savvy enough to do that isn't going to fuck up sudo in the first place < 1379370335 146520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well people have found actual security bugs in sudo < 1379370349 223141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some way to get %n into a printf string was the most recent, I think < 1379370376 307830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would yo uwrite that wrapper? < 1379370383 293403 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-201-73.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379370409 420368 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo has insults? < 1379370453 269285 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudoers(5): "insults -- If set, sudo will insult users when they enter an incorrect password. This flag is off by default." < 1379370522 545962 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'd think the underlying authentication library would log and report the failure regardless. < 1379370533 536084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: sudo -l "$@" && sudo "$@" < 1379370541 496449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1379370571 366141 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379370664 923622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, this is mindbogglingly hard to test < 1379370676 707477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to all my non-sudoers accounts not having passwords < 1379370769 954974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot test security because it's too good < 1379370909 435080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I managed to lock up my copy of Mathematica several times on balloon-related differential equations, and subsequently got my IP address banned from Wolfram|Alpha for making too many requests. < 1379370910 263049 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-254-169.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379370937 795506 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the horror. < 1379370948 316869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to take this as evidence that Mathematica sucks ;) < 1379371012 222261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not /just/ my weird similar-but-not-identical-to-turing-machine automata that make its performance start really sucking < 1379371038 934916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/wkygDoR.png < 1379371043 594464 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair it does seem pretty good for multimedia type things < 1379371072 94681 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: #drugz? < 1379371076 806196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379371082 978528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this must be those personalized google results I keep hearing about < 1379371090 536572 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get the same actually :D < 1379371095 292664 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on image search, anyway < 1379371097 558345 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do i < 1379371098 960026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematica is good at things that were considered when writing it < 1379371102 701172 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you've just corrupted us all < 1379371107 894225 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably one of the first non-general-purpose programming languages < 1379371119 542077 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1379371123 493709 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it's just a really optimized, large, library < 1379371128 166905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :containing lots of routines < 1379371129 34582 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i've been complaining about matlab elsewhere. am i allowed to feel solidarity with you < 1379371144 619867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh, matlab sucks in entirely different and unrelate ways < 1379371147 611219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*unrelated < 1379371151 412159 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :way to cheer me up! < 1379371160 646865 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i almost did a course in matlab < 1379371171 630028 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to do a project with it, because that's what the lecturer requested < 1379371189 226204 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was really hard to write the report in a way that covered up the arithmetic errors < 1379371196 418009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds awful < 1379371197 797176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which I think were the result of stack smashing or something like that) < 1379371202 195033 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far i've learned that the "ones" function, that is described as just returning an array of ones, has over nine different calling conventions, several of which involves literal strings < 1379371206 40913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because it often crashed rather than getting the values wrong) < 1379371216 695584 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-s < 1379371252 834185 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard bad things about matlab, like these things you're saying just now. < 1379371262 477987 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHARGH! WHY MUST YOU BE FAILING ME NOW! all I want is /r/nosleep's top submissions for the past month! < 1379371263 443118 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur welcome. < 1379371290 642290 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also a hit from the same course: "spnet.cpp - C program to [...]") < 1379371290 837747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: I've got it to dump Java stack traces to the console < 1379371292 863639 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did about one exercise in it; that was enough to convince me that i never wanted to use it again < 1379371301 543529 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :source*, interesting typo < 1379371499 445550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t listArray < 1379371500 117416 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ix i => (i, i) -> [e] -> Array i e < 1379371532 722116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> listArray ((-1,-1),(1,1)) $ repeat 1 < 1379371533 761722 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : array ((-1,-1),(1,1)) [((-1,-1),1),((-1,0),1),((-1,1),1),((0,-1),1),((0,0),... < 1379371550 733311 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1379371564 444816 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1379371569 577652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: array of ones < 1379371587 116897 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well can you write a function that can return either an array of int8 1s or double 1s!! < 1379371746 86546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ones = listArray ((-1,-1),(1,1)) $ repeat 1; ones :: Num n => Array (Int,Int) n in (ones :: Array (Int,Int) Int8, ones :: Array (Int,Int) Double) < 1379371747 82455 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : (array ((-1,-1),(1,1)) [((-1,-1),1),((-1,0),1),((-1,1),1),((0,-1),1),((0,0)... < 1379371751 492665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: MAYBE < 1379371786 684205 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh i meant like «ones ((-1,-1),(1,1)) "Int8"» obviously < 1379371788 999286 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're failing me dude < 1379371810 597257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, no dependent typing < 1379371822 545968 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so matlab is dependently typed < 1379371824 981756 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is inferior. < 1379371828 263988 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379371905 325660 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to disappear in the Great Coldish Outside, while Bike sputters heresies. < 1379371920 344580 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget to bring your ix < 1379371930 980125 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :will do. < 1379371935 405873 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: poutine! < 1379371938 958785 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379372099 697665 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: itsy < 1379372198 13450 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :say I make a language that's essentially Thue but when you make a rule "original::=replacement", "original" is a regular expression, and "replacement" may contain "\0", "\1", etc., where \n means the substring that was matched by the nth group in the regular expression < 1379372213 513911 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that too much redundant with an existing language or is it ok to make a page for it? < 1379372222 718142 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379372731 917562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: it's not massively interesting < 1379372737 546100 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a wimpmode Thue < 1379372748 678685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly a hardmode Thutu < 1379373030 485156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i vaguely recall it's been made already? < 1379373107 565236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, thutu of course < 1379373132 912745 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379373211 159486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh REBEL < 1379373219 870044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't Koen__ mention that earlier < 1379373244 476588 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379373303 134132 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1379373337 431999 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason i've never read the rebel page < 1379373383 110152 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everytime I decide to read all pages in the category string-rewriting, I quickly end up with a huge tree of pages to read (half of which from wikipedia) < 1379373402 983452 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are too many webpages in the internet < 1379373464 869414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1379373627 870978 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup that's exactly the language I had been looking for < 1379373635 504860 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :feeling less lonely now < 1379373651 734172 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks! < 1379373734 831662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1379374430 801545 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A great idea emerged #elsewhere. Make an easier variant for kids of a certain well-known esoteric programming language, name it with s/brain/child/. < 1379374548 810987 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bad idea. < 1379374780 34195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great idea < 1379374973 630550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1379375332 220230 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric