< 1377561794 184162 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377562048 382690 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1377562300 219097 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377562720 207879 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377562720 353040 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1377562720 353267 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1377562951 82205 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum. it's awfully quiet in here. guess everybody else went to sleep, or something similarly cadaverous... < 1377562993 790086 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, or as bash.org pointed out, I'm on the receiving end of giant snails doing weird things whil I'm unconscious and dreaming I'm on IRC. < 1377563056 438139 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PART :#esoteric < 1377563120 906481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ < 1377563174 993788 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that ascii art for a snail? < 1377563186 709571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1377563205 541494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the name for that symbol in many languages means "snail" < 1377563269 659220 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in turkish it's "horse" because of a bad pun. < 1377563277 684737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the pun < 1377563286 437287 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"at". it's turkish for "horse". < 1377563311 85058 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Finnish some people call it “cat’s tail” but most just say “at”. < 1377563389 789012 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of puns, are there any good puns out there? seems like every one of them is considered bad. < 1377563395 692814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kitty :3 < 1377563399 325447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a cat on my porch yesterday < 1377563407 131295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't try to eat the helper worms < 1377563412 69987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the basil < 1377563421 380777 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some also call it miukumauku, an onomatopoetic word that translates to something like “a mew, a meow” < 1377563507 303669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: in hebrew it is colloquially called a "strudel" hth < 1377563550 247458 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377563588 898582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nom < 1377563729 782008 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fscking hungry. I was supposed to eat three hours ago. < 1377563864 134642 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/^I/I'm/ < 1377563870 888228 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were you supposed to eat < 1377563886 312015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my regular weekly poutine. < 1377563899 479050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's my first week that I can finally get beer! < 1377563908 444199 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(first week since June) < 1377563934 698265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's that < 1377563945 603561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was on medication for the past few months. < 1377563963 100919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1377563978 727015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm stuck here slaving myself away for a stupid demo tomorrow. < 1377563988 191272 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. I'll get plenty of time off on Friday. < 1377564533 221043 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seriously wish someone would ban the political compass < 1377564551 18597 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hilarious though < 1377564614 140426 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I scored (-6.5, -6.5) on it :D < 1377564621 274730 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but where should it be banned from? < 1377564621 419394 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations libertarians, you have developed an understanding of politics more sophisticated than CNN < 1377564636 575367 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't say it's 'libertarian' < 1377564655 721281 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the questions are slanted towards leftist economic policies < 1377564676 102972 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :All compasses should be banned. < 1377564808 622223 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Governments should penalise businesses that mislead the public." like seriously < 1377564831 17334 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that leftist or just dumb? i would say dumb < 1377564875 826450 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole "socially liberal but economically conservative" being a thing that makes sense is libertarian though, thinking you can separate the axes i mean < 1377564897 958827 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1377564927 107811 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there that confusing thing where "economically liberal" actually means right wing < 1377564938 493449 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's a clear ideological axis to that question, and i don't think even ayn rand would say 'disagree' to that one < 1377564968 659193 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the libertarian axis to that question was "of course not, the magical hand of magic free market adam smith will fix everything!" < 1377564970 27413 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that's "classical liberal" < 1377564980 613036 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you think? i'm not so sure < 1377564995 810354 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always remember reading libertarian types being opposed to exactly that type of regulatin < 1377565009 843805 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. supporting the idea that "fox news is allowed to lie, that's not the government's business", etc < 1377565035 649718 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like I'm not the only one that egregiously accentise in uncouth places... < 1377565050 429238 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of chomsky's hilarious libel thing < 1377565052 166534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah well in theory the market will demand a superior news product and the liars lose market share < 1377565056 104582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in practice that barely happens ever < 1377565069 759354 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a comment in python code: # ... that display existing pîcking orders... < 1377565072 746616 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :an inadequate theory. < 1377565073 224457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are lazy and barely even watch the news, yet alone informed meta-criticism < 1377565081 386567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let alone* < 1377565095 493172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes FOX will say something egregiously horrible and lose advertisers for a time < 1377565101 826576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I think Glenn Beck left because of that kind of thing < 1377565115 706710 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :glenn beck had his own ad problems didn't he < 1377565119 911405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's different from the low level steady stream of lies that aren't outrageous in an attention grabbing way < 1377565120 329642 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah I'm not sure anyone here needs convincing of that one <.< < 1377565124 892874 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the radio guys anyway < 1377565148 534107 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember hearing some ruckus with dittoheads or whoever complaining about some company pulling ads because that's censorship < 1377565182 399584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :freedom of speech means freedom from consequences for speech, right? < 1377565187 830455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that's how it works < 1377565190 206069 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1377565190 789742 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/fraud.html < 1377565194 743920 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: except when it's people you don't like < 1377565195 785309 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, duh, man. < 1377565196 197879 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's okay < 1377565219 559448 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"" "that's racist!" "you're just trying to censor me!" "actually we're kinda just saying you're racist" < 1377565223 406027 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like i'm pretty sure that question's going to classify the objectivist line as 'economic left' < 1377565233 574896 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that sounds like a different kind of fraud... < 1377565250 723057 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :" it consists, in essence, of one man receiving the material values, goods or services of another, then refusing to pay for them" doesn't sound like lying < 1377565259 186738 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fraud involves a similarly indirect use of force: it consists of obtaining material values without their owner’s consent, under false pretenses or false promises." < 1377565260 417828 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :except in an extremely bizarre sense of "material" i guess? < 1377565294 258305 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean basically in rand's world the state should only exist to enforce contracts (as in actual contracts, not "the social contract" or whatever) < 1377565297 227308 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like 'misleading someone into performing some exchange with you' < 1377565328 134119 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, yeah; and it seems to me like she thought fraud falls within that remit < 1377565330 957957 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what, can we just agree that neither of us want to think too deeply about rand? because i really don't < 1377565340 963831 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's definitely a dumb question. < 1377565394 271716 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... all i'm trying to say here is that i think the compass is slanted towards 'left-libertarian', not right < 1377565397 256321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a million randian digits with 100000 normal deviates < 1377565417 238173 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly, maybe it is, i thought that it was designed by libertarians but i guess that's not the case < 1377565466 336371 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are a pretty dominant source of internet political bullshit < 1377565488 956459 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: imagining trolling r/libertarian or whatever by asking them if this news example constitutes government-punishable fraud < 1377565492 563427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly this means anyone who wants more than a one dimensional political spectrum is suspected of being a libertarian < 1377565537 583776 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally i think i'm pretty against any dimensionality :V < 1377565579 563535 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because i like reading about mideast politics and i don't think you can quantify much of that with axes < 1377565593 136724 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds similar to ireland < 1377565611 660375 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, well i think it's similar to any politics if you look closely enough < 1377565653 652429 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure how much good a compass gets you outside of the american two-party sort of system < 1377565676 15067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Americans have a tendency to make the israeli/palestinean conflict sound more complicated than it is < 1377565688 418565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to overstate the role of religion and supposed ancient grudges and stuff < 1377565709 66219 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they did apply it to the uk parties: http://www.politicalcompass.org/ukparties2010 < 1377565718 20380 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean saying "the democrats are left and the republicans are right" basically tells you nothing helpful about their policies, and as you keep going you realize wait yeah the parties are just "big tents" < 1377565730 315851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprise they're both on the right < 1377565733 900050 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh my god if i hear another person talk about how x and y have been fighting for "thousands of years" < 1377565750 626616 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :saudi arabia didn't even EXIST before the 20th century youa ssholes < 1377565762 753301 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do like the split between the nationalist parties there though < 1377565777 816496 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was gonna say the BNP/UKIP thing is funny < 1377565828 726563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean framing it that way provides a lot of political cover for Israel < 1377565837 727908 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but yeah, palestianians didn't really care about jews before the whole.. israel thing, bla bla you know this < 1377565863 485621 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's lazy and yeah lends itself to "well they're just irrational, better give up and support Peace and Stability" < 1377565871 182317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1377565883 564966 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like how there are the 'british' nationalists (bnp/dup/ukip) and the 'constituent' nationalists (sinn fein/plaid cymru/snp/sdlp) < 1377565913 289790 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there many scottish people in the BNP < 1377565930 52621 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1377565938 996386 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh i mostly think of the BNP as the fuck muslims party < 1377565940 647201 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://scotlandsbnp.blogspot.co.uk/ < 1377565952 983227 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that this site is hosted on blogspot speaks for itself, i feel < 1377565973 280 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yes, I know we have read about these cases before where the undesirable cannot be kicked out of Britain after a court say`s that it would deny them of the right to family life." and i'm done. < 1377565981 845283 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :undesirable. undesirable < 1377565994 396520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SNP isn't "nationalist" in the fascist way though, are they? < 1377565996 939673 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1377565999 919412 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're centre-left < 1377566023 230345 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i mean < 1377566030 587495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1377566031 926153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1377566032 289091 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's the referendum stuff going, btw < 1377566039 179281 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of want Scottish independence to succeed just because it would be interesting, but I have zero skin in the game and zero real understanding of the consequences < 1377566043 815710 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you destroyed UK unity yet < 1377566054 348573 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will definitely be 'no' but the english don't seem to realise that < 1377566072 322939 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i gathered i think < 1377566075 542350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why will it definitely be 'no' < 1377566124 328548 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because public sentiment is towards no by a significant margin, from every single projection i've seen < 1377566187 268055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1377566188 174109 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, why is sentiment like that < 1377566214 380543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's more than a year of campaigning ahead though < 1377566229 333235 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can live in hope < 1377566263 674224 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a staunch unionist in the SA thread who is an annoying git and has an avatar of the Stig, which is enough to make me wish for independence. i'm a solid political thinker. < 1377566271 791915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1377566274 889673 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who/what is the Stig < 1377566282 690468 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :top gear's test driver < 1377566287 842126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1377566297 94936 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :top gear is funny but the presenters are kind of douches sometimes < 1377566312 339001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :douchery is the source of all wit (not really) < 1377566315 961890 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was originally going to be called the gimp but someone at the bbc told clarkson he wasn't at repton any more < 1377566327 612662 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that. < 1377566376 606445 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7CnMQ4L9Pc stewart lee on the topic < 1377566472 21986 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i didn't check, but if that's the video where he mention's gordon brown's half-blindness i would like to point out that brown actually went blind playing rugby at university and so completely deserved it) < 1377566481 97976 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mentions < 1377566689 453394 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rugby, the silent killer < 1377566903 524159 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moffett Airfield was going to be called Mountain View Airport but somebody pointed out this is an ominous name for an airport < 1377566913 662134 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE PINEAPLLES MOVE! MWAH AH AH AH AH AH! I CAN GO SLEEP! < 1377566919 950433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right then < 1377566924 1432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have what he's having < 1377566940 634319 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 21 - 9 < 1377566941 254401 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 < 1377566955 779948 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woohoo, 11.5 hours of work... < 1377566973 891113 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, i got confused there for a second and thought it was a crack at doctor who < 1377566992 587762 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: our client is an import and distributor of fruits and veggies. I'm working on shipments, and my test data revolves around pineapples. < 1377567024 252359 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry about the sudden insanity. I am not insane. everything is fine. < 1377567490 999185 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to inhale a bigmac. goodnight all. < 1377567493 353005 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1377567495 400704 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377568322 997751 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377571444 629710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1377571465 227327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What needs to be made more complex? < 1377571510 128600 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: numbers < 1377571535 383037 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need to get them off the axises (axes?) < 1377571593 986267 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Do you mean complex numbers? What about the axes is this about? < 1377571663 928491 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I was referring to complex numbers. I was saying numbers need to be made more complex, and by moving them off the axes, I intended to suggest making them have both a real and imaginary part. Although I guess real numbers are complex too. < 1377571827 521707 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complex numbers do have a real and imaginary part. Real numbers are a special case (in that the value and operators convert from real to complex homomorphically) < 1377571910 204101 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, being off the axes implies nonzero real and imaginary parts, which isn't really necessary < 1377572003 320393 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exactly are you meaning by that? I can see that if you are writing it as a point on a X-Y axis then that is how it works, but I don't know what you mean, especially since you write "which isn't really necessary" too < 1377572072 384536 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I understand it, 5 + 0i is a complex number, but it is on an axis. I mistakenly implied in my joke that it would have to have nonzero real and imaginary parts to be considered a complex number. < 1377572171 768156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that's whaty ou meant by it. Yes "5 + 0i" is a complex number (and it is equal to a natural number 5) < 1377572281 678946 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1377572304 164463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1377572304 309310 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 5h 35m 11s ago: our DM's been working for some time now on a custom system that we haven't tested yet. < 1377572338 728971 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily isn't on right now, but I can tell of my system (and variants of 3.5e which we use) < 1377572517 13498 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use LA (which 4e lacks), and don't use CR and EL (4e keeps these features); my own (unfinished and untested) custom system is like this too; it uses LA although it is called "pseudolevels" instead since I think that is a better name for it. < 1377572606 608256 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1377572659 134560 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can anyone here help me figure out what language this is written in? < 1377572662 259942 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 3 3 3***1_+,10 3 3**7+,100 16 2_++,3__3__3_3_***19+16+,4_4_*2*,10$*1+10$*4$*1_++10$*1+$$3+$5-10_10_*23+10_6_*2_+7$*,,,,,,,,, < 1377572701 164277 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as this < 1377572704 2266 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>99*1-,25*:*3-,25*:*44*+2-,25*:*44*+,84*,96*1-,97*5-,25*:*1+,25*:*25*+,v @,*52,+*55*:*52,**52*52< < 1377572720 346754 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :satanic runes < 1377572721 469766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did you find that? < 1377572735 182339 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they are satanic runes, though < 1377572746 265847 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any proof < 1377572763 974186 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I am just guessing < 1377572774 853957 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually wait, i've seen this before maybe. i think it was TECO or something related < 1377573019 213152 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a challenge a buddy has me working on to solve < 1377573040 426402 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a puzzle with 5 parts < 1377573047 377734 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er not teco. one of those old things < 1377573050 144699 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :first part was the first one < 1377573062 923620 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :second part was written in zombie < 1377573066 403865 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :_ probably indicates negation and it's otherwise postfix. maybe < 1377573073 162313 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :third was written in ook < 1377573082 117257 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth was lolcat < 1377573096 544039 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :5th is the second one i posted < 1377573152 729750 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://scientopia.org/blogs/goodmath/2010/11/30/the-glorious-horror-of-teco/ eh, doesn't look as similar as i thought < 1377573160 904276 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like some weird mash of dc, i don't know < 1377573190 214313 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think dc uses comma though. < 1377573207 21983 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does vi have postfix arithmetic? i haven't a damn clue < 1377573210 743805 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they remind me of a linear brainfuck like language I just have never seen it < 1377573225 804430 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not much like brainfix, it's pretty obviously postfix arithmeticing < 1377573234 65433 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no amount of googling has helped me < 1377573337 29710 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 3 3 3 3***1_+ means 3*3*3*3-1, probably, and then i kinda lose it because i don't know what the comma is < 1377573430 307819 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377573436 244933 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you treated it just like a comma maybe it is simply a message < 1377573456 259083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they are ASCII codes then the first three letters are "Par" < 1377573574 486055 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: How did you derive that? < 1377573580 729931 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there are more commas at the end as well as dollar signs, maybe dollar sign is DUP and comma is EMIT perhaps? < 1377573662 212500 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a side note anyone know where I can find a zombie code interpreter? < 1377574339 936013 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realize that the Hackiki changes list has something like "summary: medit/bin/uselessness_rpg_1,,game_rules chebang=#!/usr/bin/env .wiki cont=== Ability scores ==" so some parameters are in the summary; perhaps another edit summary field can be added using this, then? (Such as adding a field called "A" comes before "chebang", could be used) < 1377574407 114145 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Software Downloads Associated with File Extension WAGAME: < 1377574407 259030 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :• FileViewPro* (free trial download) < 1377574407 259119 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :• Worms Armageddon Game Replay (Team17) < 1377574410 250407 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slimey bastards < 1377574485 504139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what the first thing has to do but I suppose "WAGAME" can be considered short for "Worms Armageddon Game". Maybe FileViewPro is supporting a lot of file types? < 1377574517 414218 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FileViewPro is blatantly a piece of software that that website I pasted from is involved with < 1377574541 810774 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they just say that, for any file extension, FileViewPro can open it < 1377574563 133866 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different site: http://www.openfileguide.com/article/How-to-open-.WAGAME-file.html < 1377574569 61647 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha meeting.WAGAME < 1377574597 686086 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had a very important meeting thru a Worms game < 1377574602 287936 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it should be listed in a separate list, saying "all file" in the result menu, and if you click that one then it says FileViewPro < 1377574653 589977 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :".WAGAME file extension is popular essentially, for its role is important in various Windows Operating Systems. And it also features in many other functions and programs on the PC. This file extension is very important in the successful performance of the taks on the PC. " < 1377574744 85344 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, starting to occur to me that I shouldn't have opened that link on my real Windows system < 1377574747 889772 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout JOIN :#esoteric < 1377574806 338088 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to add a edit summary into Hackiki now. < 1377574861 284000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a good things about Hackiki; anyone can modify the program to make it do these kind of things! < 1377574872 604837 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any esoteric languages that are like Forth except with a queue instead of a stack? Because if not there will be one by the end of the day :P < 1377574927 565849 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me, I still need to make Braintrust 2 < 1377575519 312233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrout: I don't know; you can check. < 1377575567 697110 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think a Forth program can be made that implements commands for treating the stack as a queue < 1377575569 377061 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/F1IMP3s.png http://i.imgur.com/INevznF.png < 1377575578 187228 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want more info on what I mean < 1377575615 479181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know what you mean already < 1377575658 550475 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1377575668 246981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is probably possible to implement queue Forth in Forth. < 1377575695 323208 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Rebol, insofar it can be considered along those lines, still acts more stackish than queueish < 1377575714 119963 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a reverse stack than is typical < 1377575757 519147 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never used Rebol, how does it work < 1377575808 287063 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The language as a whole, or the bit that's relevant to this discussion? < 1377575846 777683 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bit that's relevant to this discussion < 1377575858 282554 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the appropriate context of the language of a whole, if that's required < 1377575874 126711 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. Keep in mind that this is just a portion of the language that's, in a sense, default as a programming language: < 1377575904 873980 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you have a word, like add, it tries to take in the next two arguments. But in its place you could also have a word, which will then take its arguments first < 1377575914 102937 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, if you have words like add, you could do something like < 1377575918 571150 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :add add 1 1 add 2 2 < 1377575941 686942 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1377575956 725038 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is that any different to add(add(1,1),add(2,2)) < 1377575989 590886 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess not < 1377575999 778086 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that the arities have to be fixed. < 1377576019 361620 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this works too: add add add 2 2 1 1 < 1377576044 666087 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, arities have to be fixed < 1377576046 372088 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :add(add(2,2),add(1,1)) or add(add(add(2,2),1),1)? < 1377576072 332228 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, in the context of add it's all associative so it doesn't actually matter, but let's pretend addition isn't associative for a moment) < 1377576079 551053 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter (I think < 1377576224 474041 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It acts a lot like a reverse Forth, basically < 1377576230 92144 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except no actual stack < 1377576237 106077 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there is a stack, I guess < 1377576248 228976 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just not one that persists between commands < 1377576346 287234 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.re-bol.com/rebol.html#section-6.1.1 < 1377576419 13384 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^much saner than anything I can say < 1377577073 426043 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377577350 203021 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377577445 668917 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377578500 548936 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :modprobe -r brcsmac;modprobe brcsmac ;# why does this fix my wifi? < 1377579271 77413 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck, I am an idiot < 1377579278 50058 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the two days I waited to get plane tickets, prices went up $200 < 1377579316 750820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you ticketing to Boston? < 1377579333 505702 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, thanksgiving < 1377579341 98975 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time-ish < 1377579458 474055 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I changed the money in Uselessness RPG into euro currency instead of yen, so that it isn't the same letter. < 1377579542 528849 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. I can get jetblue here and virgin back, for about, hm < 1377579549 436250 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 328 < 1377579550 425432 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 328 < 1377579556 491045 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 328 + 169 < 1377579557 542933 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 497 < 1377579569 746998 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. that's not super, but passable, I suppose... < 1377579769 667791 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377579783 686490 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really super not super tbh < 1377579883 319462 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, looks like friday is a bit of an anomaly; I should just go the next day < 1377579943 869603 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 234 + 169 < 1377579944 822180 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 403 < 1377582102 776804 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's probably a good idea to get travel insurance on a return trip that's not part of a roundtrip? < 1377582142 375108 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :souns reasonable < 1377582207 664153 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :airplanes are weird. I'm going on them more nowadays, though. very exciting. < 1377582322 536734 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1377582382 714809 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1377583257 770044 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The edit summary I added in Hackiki works despite not being programmed to do anything; it is just a in the editor, and the editor program doesn't do anything with it. < 1377584087 190141 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There’s a Finnish news article about an English article about a tweet which reveals that (drumroll) you can reopen closed tabs with < 1377584089 158645 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl/cmd-shift-t. The title of the Finnish article translates to “Is this the best keyboard gimmick of all time?” < 1377584109 517340 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair, it is < 1377584118 491655 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted < 1377584190 822879 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PART #esoteric :"ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" < 1377584652 579679 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mailing list is an interesting feature of Hackiki too. < 1377584757 796689 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does the mailing list add a space after a comma in the title? < 1377584784 16056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: did you do the exercises < 1377585000 761206 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not yet. I have been studying flight dynamics. < 1377587162 922309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377588066 965733 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377588176 118221 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no more called-out cusswords, no more wishing the back button had you covered when, aiming to click on a tab, you accidentally hit the little X on the tab’s starboard." is it so hard to click the reopen tab button that you have to start cursing? < 1377588184 602736 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did chrome not have that at some point < 1377588262 852754 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377590140 323332 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377590175 964754 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1377590896 320844 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377591028 505313 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1377592843 740157 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377592950 948925 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377594592 584392 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377596744 115073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377596838 310954 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377597280 913758 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377597389 442295 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1377597397 829866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'day < 1377597413 488569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1377597413 633179 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 12h 3m 35s ago: お休みなさい! < 1377597454 147987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses google translate. it is super effective! < 1377597481 983101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1377597498 485386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s actually surprisingly long to mean just "good night", isn't it. < 1377597516 357033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just assumed you said "that hth" or something < 1377597534 660137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like it's in hiragana rather than kanji? < 1377597538 291679 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help I don't know anything < 1377597576 157305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe < 1377597583 961045 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not. god. I don't know < 1377597649 682072 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "お休みなさい!" < 1377597650 736208 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7 < 1377597655 140944 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "goodnight!" < 1377597656 239377 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10 < 1377597685 201164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except google translate suggests the even longer おやすみなさい! < 1377597697 319733 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "おやすみなさい!" < 1377597698 564274 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8 < 1377597737 862681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :long for a language with syllabic characters, Taneb < 1377597757 922854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and sometimes more than syllabic) < 1377597926 310452 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiredness is so lousy < 1377597999 374962 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -MEncode -Mutf8 -e 'print length(encode("UTF-8", "おやすみなさい!"));' # then again < 1377598000 763906 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 < 1377598072 199834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily God ettermiddag! < 1377598072 344557 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377598095 643297 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377598202 859864 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Texture 2.0 (my Haskell based visual live programming language) is working a bit more. It has reached gabber zero – the point at which a programming language is able to support the production of live techno." < 1377598325 202578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :learning names of new subgenres of music genres i already don't listen to makes me feel so old. < 1377598360 565760 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, my brother's a glitch-hop/jazz mashup fan < 1377598377 874719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1377598388 619263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you trying to kill me with old age here < 1377598467 935930 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even sure what glitch-hop is and I'm the same age as some hip young teenagers < 1377598550 726942 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377598556 904883 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it's some kind of "hop" made out of audio resulting from video game glitches. < 1377598593 747519 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems so < 1377598632 498610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :should make a new subgenre of lindy hop just to confuse people < 1377599646 666577 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindy hiphop? < 1377599738 511518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point would be that it's _not_ hiphop, olsner < 1377600022 483798 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1377600022 667729 :heroux_!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1377600067 657486 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377600254 250271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huphop is made by kill -1'ing processes. < 1377602283 151659 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how has your hth treatment been going so far, twh < 1377602302 590163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very well < 1377602339 219624 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that when you spend small amounts of time breathing pure hth? < 1377602347 866296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Are there any esoteric languages that are like Forth except with a queue instead of a stack? Because if not there will be one by the end of the day :P < 1377602370 94876 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's when you run a perl script written by me with zero testing to run inside your IRC client for some reason < 1377602382 629766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no one managed to mention any of the heap we've already got < 1377602396 93628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fueue, Qdeql, MSM ... < 1377602399 86130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not heap, queue. < 1377602420 400624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and MSM's "successor", both from just last week or so < 1377602429 706679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(did you see my MSM queue twh) < 1377602440 747061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1377602464 729877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*quine < 1377602480 359486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look oerjan, I can make the script more complicated or you can cooperate!! < 1377602480 726634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blame corruption from the visual field < 1377602492 589196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1377602514 130323 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably ) should be added to the punctuation it looks for after a forbidden word < 1377602549 241544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a function for how to combine if there is punctuation _both_ before and after < 1377602583 231520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think you are just discarding both at the moment, which is of course anathema to ) < 1377602588 53507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1377602602 965795 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh true. < 1377602616 109736 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, imbalancing your parentheses will encourage you to omit the word! < 1377602626 849760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish! < 1377602686 168714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also i did at least _read_ your script before installing it. i'm not completely crazy. wait, i am, just not in that way. hm i guess it's not complete if it's not in every way < 1377602732 516180 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's something like the third to fifth perl program I've ever written. and the first irssi script. < 1377602778 939822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/fis/mcmap/blob/master/block.pl and https://github.com/fis/mcmap/blob/master/protocol.pl are the only ones I remember actually using < 1377602815 622222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mrout You might want to check out Qdeql, Sqecl, Fueue, MSM and STXTRM (the latter added in just recent days, and somewhere half between stack and queue in practice) < 1377602815 803981 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377602850 290044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You got me wondering "why is there a hth-related Irssi script in the mcmap repository" for a moment there. < 1377602914 165185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mrout *latter 2 < 1377602914 309947 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377603365 280621 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377603479 385828 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377603765 802617 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377603858 459816 :nooodl_!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377604062 686822 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1377604069 318295 :nooodl_!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be NICK :nooodl < 1377604228 574440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ctrl/cmd-shift-t. The title of the Finnish article translates to “Is this the best keyboard gimmick of all time?” <-- seeing as i use it all the f time... < 1377606583 581661 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the two goodnights are the same, one just uses the kanji for yasumi, and the other writes it in hiragana < 1377606789 381215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1377606867 45456 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the kanji was just yasu < 1377606958 869931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :slight experimentation splitting the phrase up seemed to indicate that it contained no parts corresponding to either "good" or "night" :P < 1377607418 607323 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it was oyasuminasai then "yasumi" kind of corresponds to "night" < 1377607598 804001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < 1377607629 973554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google gives "rest" for that. < 1377607657 162028 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I said "kind of" < 1377607658 860129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess it essentially translates to "Go get some rest!" < 1377607738 812106 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see it akin to something like "have a [good] rest" < 1377607800 590161 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1377609071 684781 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377609847 725445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Well Quebec would probably be gone while no one was paying attention. < 1377609964 588685 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377609973 652598 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377610725 555479 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/2009/05/29/changes-in-operas-user-agent-string-format < 1377611138 254144 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377611492 249329 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377611501 164133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good remote morning! < 1377611511 93056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1377611511 276078 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 3h 43m 58s ago: God ettermiddag! < 1377611529 705395 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. what's an ettermiddag? is it like a fternooner? < 1377611534 58690 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ettermiddag < 1377611534 290381 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :middag og frem til kveld Vi skal mtes i ettermiddag. < 1377611542 805816 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ça m'aide pas. < 1377611618 752056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Veien å gå med den sleipe curveball, du djevel. < 1377611618 896977 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377611666 85895 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate confirms it is a fternooner. < 1377611669 965644 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks google < 1377611671 810446 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, google. Thoogle. < 1377611682 908425 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fternooner < 1377611684 912957 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternooner? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377611685 359311 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 | < 1377611685 504346 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               o/`¯º < 1377611692 19133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fternooners < 1377611693 832512 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternooners? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377611694 156963 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  | < 1377611694 433401 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                º¯`\o < 1377611783 659212 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”) is a screamingly delicious pastry. < 1377611788 422953 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377611969 742522 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oogly boogly boo < 1377612194 888231 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377612217 862809 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :caraðello. < 1377612231 672147 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no hello for you, you boogler. < 1377612321 621851 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377612442 320507 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377612464 539338 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morning, #esoteric < 1377612891 560325 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1377614506 388821 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :DeadZuu < 1377614541 623207 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sweeps the cadavers under the rug < 1377614592 231474 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Are they that exquisite that you have to hide them? < 1377614595 522113 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be shy < 1377614671 809334 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like inedible cadavers. < 1377614699 164825 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Understandable < 1377614929 785673 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell question: is it possible to create your own deriving? < 1377615137 569306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but you can do similar things < 1377615299 275698 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it involve TH? < 1377615306 296815 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily < 1377615316 506257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latest thing is "GHC generics" (not the same as "SYB generics" and stuff) < 1377615317 244814 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! I can go another day without learning TH! < 1377615324 262443 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do "data Foo = ... deriving (Generic) < 1377615328 240791 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :; instance MyClass" < 1377615333 94738 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Foo. I can't type today < 1377615355 536733 :DeadZuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :Zuu < 1377615383 809084 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: can you unrug Zuu for me please? I'm busy learning what (Generic) is. < 1377615409 93958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of horrific to use < 1377615418 718369 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut?! < 1377615433 37287 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. and there I hoped it would be easier to understand than that sybbing stuff. < 1377615439 604772 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn Haskell, I guess =P < 1377615508 872446 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Zuu, question for you < 1377615518 472864 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: je te vois venir. < 1377615529 756161 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it Time To Tell The Truth Tuesday where you live? < 1377615533 227726 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: what question? < 1377615540 964328 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: oh. a new one, eh? < 1377615588 488536 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: imho, it is alwyas time to tell the truth where i live, and everywhere i dont live, unless the truth has no purpose other than making yourself happy. < 1377615605 406355 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: I see. Thank you ^^ < 1377615620 98528 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I had recognized where I knew your name from, but it seems it might just be a coincidence =P < 1377615643 291093 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I dont quite recognize yours :P < 1377615663 512412 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: I don't use the same nick over there either =P < 1377615925 239129 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, let's say I want to learn Haskell < 1377615932 447227 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having heard about it for so long < 1377615943 415471 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be a good starting point? < 1377616084 392438 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lyah. < 1377616097 573145 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://learnyouahaskell.com/ < 1377616109 295215 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1377616118 810768 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sentence... hurts =P < 1377616128 373405 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☺) < 1377616133 502206 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks ^^ < 1377616136 575279 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll look into that < 1377616166 317986 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you're done reading it a few times forwards and backwards, keep the Typeclassopedia as a reference, and then you're gold. < 1377616177 697981 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Au-some < 1377617211 978045 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377617295 419341 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377618589 222790 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377619540 763672 :hypha!~hypha@93.158.64.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377620913 597635 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1377621250 28285 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1377621521 283745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1377621596 258399 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377622475 342444 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1377622913 549611 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377623380 871164 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: so, how's the great good learning going on? ☻ < 1377623394 798334 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Working atm =P < 1377623401 969535 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So not really going on at all, really < 1377623435 222855 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377623452 40476 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, what are your lunch options in Lachine? can you go out? cafétéria? do you have to bring your own lunches? < 1377623523 612739 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lachine? is that that big country in Lasie? < 1377623573 247147 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's our local version of china. Local China → L-Chine → Lachine. < 1377623608 646651 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, you can see Lachine as a kind of zerg nexus, as it's near the airport. < 1377623631 942403 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds kind of Final Fantasyish. < 1377623653 777268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, fal'Cie and all that. < 1377623659 801203 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck fal'cie < 1377623660 118355 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fal'Cie (ա Farushi) [flsi] are supernatural beings in Final Fantasy XIII. < 1377623681 492667 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? roujo < 1377623683 134877 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo is still a Java heretic. His claim to Canadianness is soon to be verified by boily, treaties be damned. A cocktail and destruction of the Universe are scheduled at 19h00. < 1377623685 297826 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what telephone number "+55555" is? < 1377623690 738504 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also l'Cie. < 1377623716 965446 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: probably somewhere in Brasil. < 1377623736 289850 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I work in Dorval, really. There are lunch options, but I just bring my lunch,. < 1377623786 982460 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Roujo is a Java heretic leaning on ungrammatical Haskell. His claim to Canadianness is marred by an unholy portal to China. The treaties suffer, so the cocktail will be postponed. < 1377623791 626250 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377623836 62612 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh =P < 1377623844 276090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could also be some sort of placeholdery kind of number, by way of comparison with the fictional 555 US area code. < 1377623885 701124 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: 55 - Santa Maria / Uruguaiana / Cruz Alta (western Rio Grande do Sul) < 1377623926 820618 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, that only amounts to four fives. the last one is probably part of a local xchange. < 1377623947 31579 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Or possibly it's not a real number at all. Not everything that shows as the caller number is always true. < 1377623983 505537 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe in aliens, 555 numbers, and Canada! < 1377624028 365017 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know how I would run this or what language this is written in? < 1377624032 579553 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 3 3 3***1_+,10 3 3**7+,100 16 2_++,3__3__3_3_***19+16+,4_4_*2*,10$*1+10$*4$*1_++10$*1+$$3+$5-10_10_*23+10_6_*2_+7$*,,,,,,,,, < 1377624046 736324 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like a stack-based language < 1377624049 46886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably something stack-ba... < 1377624054 97682 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop pre-empting people like that! < 1377624059 280334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I figured it out, although haven't tried it < 1377624060 550607 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bad < 1377624087 591803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure it's not a.... brainfuck derivative < 1377624093 109708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I vaguely recall something where _ was subtraction. < 1377624103 633680 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: there are stack-based brainfuck derivative! < 1377624105 932143 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at a lot of them and I couldn't find anything that included numbers < 1377624106 799409 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Kind of like dc, where - is subtraction and therefore you use _ as the sign for negative numbers.) < 1377624111 585378 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thedeco: so in order to run it you'd need a stack < 1377624117 35493 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to figure out what the operators do < 1377624133 755939 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can guess that * does a multiplication and + an addition < 1377624137 837149 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for the others eeeeeeeh < 1377624144 427445 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also sort-of guess that _ would be subtraction. < 1377624159 46181 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about spaces? < 1377624160 16487 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it asciified APL? J? < 1377624170 137090 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spaces are just separators imho < 1377624173 759354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe not subtraction, after looking at that sequence. < 1377624182 810684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spaces are most likely separating numbers, yes. < 1377624198 935450 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you don't get confused between 3333 as three thousand three hundred thirty-three and 3 3 3 3 as three three three three < 1377624201 591189 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make an educated guess that , has to do with printing output. < 1377624217 183707 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I think , is EMIT < 1377624221 583739 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe 3333 is a phone number? < 1377624235 782874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I know what it is. I am testing my hypothesis now. < 1377624237 280238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :3*3*3*3 == 81, which is right there in the printable-ASCII range. < 1377624243 899307 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what we'd need? a search-engine for esolangs based on instructions < 1377624295 55005 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: that's some pretty good idea you got there. < 1377624322 430703 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :given the instructions here are the languages that use them < 1377624327 81381 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be awesome < 1377624329 6014 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could get fizzie to ML the fungot out of that DB, and if someone tries something original that has no hit, then we've got ourselves a shiny new esolang! < 1377624329 490908 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: marina. the name of agincourt. yet sit and see, minding true things, by what you were, and as oft is dumbe, where dust, and be a happy mother by the deed < 1377624353 272454 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 10 3 3**7+, is clearly 'a'. < 1377624353 567971 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if one submits something that suspiciously looks like a bf derivative, then *WHACK* IP ban. < 1377624355 233083 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay pizza's waiting for me < 1377624375 712800 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that system could help me solve the next challenge which is >99*1-,25*:*3-,25*:*44*+2-,25*:*44*+,84*,96*1-,97*5-,25*:*1+,25*:*25*+,v @,*52,+*55*:*52,**52*52< < 1377624395 737488 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: im a noob here why? < 1377624410 109791 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks like improperly wrapped befunge < 1377624441 749996 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It prints "Part 5:end}" if wrapped correctly < 1377624442 462852 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, presumably the < on the right end should go under the v. < 1377624468 999266 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377624510 708299 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: that was correct! < 1377624514 656870 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thedeco: brainfsck derivatives are trite, unoriginal, background noise and unwanted. there's a long history of various regulars battling the Hordes of Poor Brainfsck Rewrites. < 1377624530 605360 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to know rgr that < 1377624544 559376 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they all are < 1377624554 367738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more that it's too easy to create uninteresting bf derivatives < 1377624556 814954 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ook is unique imho hth. < 1377624556 959497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lots of people do < 1377624560 391845 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :down to the last part which is the 3 3 3 3 one < 1377624561 612287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you create an interesting one, more power to ya < 1377624583 291404 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the parts was ook lol < 1377624626 656575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it starts with "Pa", then. < 1377624637 946216 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case _ is probably "negate top value". < 1377624650 747485 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be Part 1: then followed by something < 1377624673 100984 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Given that 3*3*3*3-1 is 80 which is 'P'; and 10*3*3+7 is 97 which is 'a'.) < 1377624711 203753 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377624712 104454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :deriving the language from an example program and output is a fun game < 1377624728 87317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that 4_4_*2*, is an obvious space ((-4)*(-4)*2 = 32); so you just need to guess a meaning for $. < 1377624775 51915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's the same number of $s than ,s? Perhaps it's a dup. < 1377624819 315218 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be dup, yes < 1377624839 549557 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it's "Part 1:{cheese" (without a line break following) < 1377624852 150604 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOOOOOT < 1377624854 491928 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A few simple replacements make it befunge) < 1377624862 55646 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is how I ran it) < 1377624865 765229 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if the point of such a challenge is not to do it yourself < 1377624882 325824 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377624883 874840 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still missing the name of the language, though. (Unless it's a custom one.) < 1377624911 715101 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I promise i used the google machine before I asked others < 1377624922 951230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, isn't that just FALSE? < 1377624937 258897 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has _ for negation and $ for dup. < 1377624950 415381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And , for "write a character".) < 1377624975 430989 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and while it is still time... < 1377624977 507187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I'm kind of ashamed for not recognizing FALSE. < 1377624979 156257 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome thedeco < 1377624982 42166 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09thed10eco: 08W04elco04me07 to 06the international hub 10for 14esoteric 04prog08rammin14g04 lan05guage de02sign and deployment05! For14 more informatio11n03, che04ck out our wiki: 06http:/14/04e05solangs.org/wiki/M12ain_Page. (Fo07r07 the other kin04d of esoterica, t02ry #esoteric on irc.da03l.04net.) < 1377625006 361825 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need a seminary to get us back on track with esolanging and on-töpic discussions. < 1377625008 51999 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you boily < 1377625028 971445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did think $ is DUP but maybe I did something wrong when converting to Forth < 1377625107 194316 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a good FALSE interpreter, PortableFalse says my compilers (gcc/clang/tcc) suck < 1377625165 14041 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think you misunderstand what the topic here is < 1377625175 87152 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think it's anything other than Hexham, you're wrong < 1377625183 634551 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, I fixed it < 1377625230 71563 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yes, but we didn't recognized one of the Great Esolang Classics! < 1377625233 784748 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ed/e/ < 1377625248 126246 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what makes you think this channel is about esolangs < 1377625260 556366 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca TOPIC #esoteric :this channel is about Hexham < 1377625276 779669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: oh, thanks. I got confused there, with the /topic. < 1377625298 571443 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yeah it happens < 1377625303 939118 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tswett are you now properly undereffed? < 1377625304 83914 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377625318 783285 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: so, how's life for you west of the border? < 1377625332 154841 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(can someone reset the topic? I don't have the old one handy >_>) < 1377625347 541259 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: boring < 1377625353 812483 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the week before the week before school < 1377625358 331895 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net TOPIC #esoteric :tswett needs noderefs | The welcomes of doom | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! │ Roujo < 1377625360 816242 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : :: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric | fizzie: true, it needs to be made more complex < 1377625365 255312 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aurgh. < 1377625366 496458 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1377625379 182365 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377625380 541852 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone competent (meaning absolutely not me) change the /topic, please? < 1377625389 546719 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is iOCCC still ongoing? < 1377625391 861601 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the survey? < 1377625394 407465 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*I < 1377625397 952902 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :those should stay in < 1377625448 888536 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell jsvine SUUUUUURVEEEEEEEEEY..... (sonata in the key of Zombie♯ minor) < 1377625449 72172 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377625465 878423 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca TOPIC #esoteric :Hexham discussion channel | 22nd IOCCC: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.tex | esolang survey! http://goo.gl/UuOxzy | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1377625482 545227 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: oh, school. that thing I don't have since 2011. MWAH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH! < 1377625489 78055 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the joke is on you! < 1377625499 255735 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh, I still have school-related nightmares. < 1377625523 609975 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I went through an engineering degree, tyvm. < 1377625535 98112 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh < 1377625537 351219 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of the worse decisions in my life.) < 1377625541 649971 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the joke is really on you then < 1377625555 564994 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You wrote a message to me but when I read it, you aren't on so I can't reply. < 1377625578 605383 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have just finished school and shall be going on to big school soon < 1377625585 831642 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no URL shorteners please < 1377625601 562913 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or broken links :p < 1377625610 771093 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it is plausible that the IOCCC would offer their rules in TeX format. < 1377625660 863224 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Was it about a custom role playing system or something like that? Do you have details? < 1377625663 476543 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: well, the University years themselves were great, but the paper at the end isn't worth much. < 1377625684 664366 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi TOPIC #esoteric :Hexham discussion channel | 22nd IOCCC: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1377625687 425997 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I wrote a message about that? I have some very vague memories about discussing this subject with you. < 1377625690 133980 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what are you doing now? < 1377625698 366256 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why no url shorteners? < 1377625708 835250 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't really remember either, but you can check the channel logs; the message should be there. < 1377625720 132778 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: consulto-development with FOSS ☺ < 1377625726 750108 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1377625734 211472 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: nah. I'm too lazy today. < 1377625748 771740 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: the job is very nice, and it's surrounded by Montréal. < 1377625754 155650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: obscures link destination, allows unwarranted tracking < 1377625790 95758 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I like http://www.shadyurl.com/ < 1377625843 821015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: This is the copy of the message: boily said 5h 35m 11s ago: our DM's been working for some time now on a custom system that we haven't tested yet. < 1377625887 460198 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, thanks! < 1377625898 457491 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also been working on a custom (incomplete and untested) role playing system. Some of the details can be described by differences from 3.5e. CR and EL are eliminiated. LA is retained in a slightly different form called "pseudolevels". < 1377625904 305985 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do you have details? < 1377625951 905857 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: not yet. he's been very secretive about it, except some interesting character mechanics (like a dragon-hybrid that uses his money to gain buffs) < 1377625977 85419 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: surrounded by montreal is a definite plus < 1377625985 650699 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unlike surrounded by toronto, which is nearly a dealbreaker for me) < 1377625990 176747 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone correct the grammar of this sentence: "I've ended up going to bring a couple of friends along." < 1377625995 536728 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: another friend in another group's been working on his own apple-pie-from-scratch system for about ~10 years. < 1377625997 969976 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've ran out of grammar lira < 1377626003 719675 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the grammar is correct < 1377626013 675060 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, it doesn't feel it < 1377626016 986561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: supposedly you can get nice korean food in TO. do you confirm? < 1377626028 889689 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I can neither confirm nor deny < 1377626032 318043 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I am also working on a system, from scratch although with some ideas based on 3.5e, Magic: the Gathering, category theory, and other things. < 1377626038 256297 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: as a certified Francophone, the grammar is correct. < 1377626043 397958 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I will take no further questions on the matter < 1377626049 615857 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: so you're a politician, eh? < 1377626064 767909 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: category... theory... in an RPG??? < 1377626070 178230 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: aspiring to be Harper's sucessor < 1377626076 395366 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: possibly you want it to means something different that what it says. But the grammar is correct < 1377626082 333654 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: as PET said, just watch me? < 1377626089 576452 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes, the magical system involves many mathematical things. < 1377626104 856061 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are doomed. DOOOOOOMED, I SAY! < 1377626109 652161 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I now want to add a clause "who aren't in the group", whose antecedent is "friends" < 1377626113 345653 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where would I put it < 1377626123 838524 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and actually, yes, I am a student politician. I try not to evade questions, though :) < 1377626125 101367 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In mine, PCs and NPCs are treated equivalently. To make a player character look up what kind of creature you want your character to be, look up the number of pseudolevels (there will always be a number, unlike D&D), select your classes and how many levels you want in each, skills, feats, back story, etc < 1377626141 758103 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So mine hasn't any "player races" section. < 1377626148 12290 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I just tack it to the end? < 1377626152 226441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: are you badlingual in both official languages? < 1377626159 694065 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I've ended up going to bring a couple of friends along, who aren't in the group." < 1377626165 808549 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so it's gurpsian, too. < 1377626179 769776 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm far from fluent French, but I can pass < 1377626194 805929 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't know what that means. What similarities and differences do the ones you know of having? < 1377626197 492919 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by "pass", I mean "speak French at a fancy restaurant in Montreal without the waiter ever switching to English" < 1377626213 443463 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: my accent is pretty good, though, unlike PMSH < 1377626337 528898 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm not sure if that qualifies as "badlingual" < 1377626405 391870 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like D&D 4e. However, it is kind of a coincidence that my system eliminated many things in 4e and kept many things that 4e eliminated; this was before 4e was announced. < 1377626440 377291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My system is a bit less combat oriented; the "Fighter" class is the only one meant for combat and the other classes do other things. < 1377626513 917251 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck pmsh < 1377626514 311003 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377626536 355757 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: montreal waiters are too gentle < 1377626538 37304 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I was refering to our Dear Leader, Jean Chrétien :D < 1377626579 627819 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What are your opinions of these things so far? < 1377626583 86787 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I ordered in Japanese at a Mtl restaurant once. it worked. < 1377626584 6999 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: on the other hand, they're probably less gentle than french waiters. french waiters don't speak english, so they're guaranteed not to switch languages < 1377626619 217042 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sounds very tempting and intriguing. the pc/npc non-split is something that isn't spread enough around systems, imo. < 1377626641 254835 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I agree. < 1377626695 266308 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: French waiters are scarce around the city. almost all of our waiters (fmvo almost all) are bilingual. < 1377626702 845343 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fmvo: for a mathematician's value of) < 1377626721 658064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.5e has almost PC/NPC equivalence; I have made some variations to 3.5e, one of which improves the equivalence. However, they still use different formats. My system uses the same format too; all the kind of creatures in the game are in one area, and all have pseudolevels rather than using CR. < 1377626739 246309 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no I meant a french waiter in france < 1377626743 839686 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: too gentle in what sense? < 1377626754 485138 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the not switching to your language sense < 1377626766 188700 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. That's not really my experience < 1377626779 376780 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first bar I've stopped in in germany, I order in german, they waiter answers in english < 1377626797 343786 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he overheard me talking with my friends in french, so when I continue in english HE SWITCHES TO FRENCH < 1377626804 225308 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I felt so insulted < 1377626804 731001 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :God dammit, Windows 7's built in backup tool is useless. It gives random crappy error messages < 1377626808 260337 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1377626825 285058 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1377626827 630787 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any suggestions for full disk backups for windows 7 that works? < 1377626830 434631 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incremental too < 1377626831 960490 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, all experience points in my system are ad hoc, with the exception of spells and class features that cost experience points. < 1377626835 916942 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no, dd won't work < 1377626837 969269 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: he didn't recognize your lovely Québecois accent, clearly < 1377626850 326918 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: spells and class features that cost xp are dumb hth < 1377626851 11053 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm french from france < 1377626854 530370 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: oh < 1377626857 297914 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lololol < 1377626860 21653 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :owned < 1377626873 92544 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Learning additional spells beyond the ones automatically earned at level up costs experience points.) < 1377626886 961074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I don't really agree; I think it can be good idea. < 1377626975 128058 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: bacula! < 1377626981 882703 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, On windows? < 1377626999 504738 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes. that was one of my internship projects. it works just fine! < 1377627023 539798 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, also it would all need to work from that computer, be when I press a button rather than automated (due to dual booting) and to an external USB HDD < 1377627031 755202 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I thought it cost money for windows? < 1377627038 584631 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my gloriousest windows moments: destroying everything I can think of, and see if the backup can restore it. < 1377627050 463138 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that is what I think I saw the list on wikipedia say when I read it < 1377627066 777133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you can launch manual backups, external USB HDD is a nonissue, it's free. < 1377627075 952034 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :For windows too? Huh < 1377627085 222204 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, it uses shadow copy on windows? < 1377627085 366769 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. I testify that I did it. < 1377627088 744407 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does. < 1377627096 258503 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, because shadow copy is the part that is borking < 1377627109 594967 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that is no good then < 1377627120 662035 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1377627127 239698 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how do you backup open files, then? < 1377627146 503340 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/testify/attest/ < 1377627150 757772 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid verbs. < 1377627152 613244 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, good question, well I guess shadow copy might work if another program calls it that isn't super-broken < 1377627177 703593 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bacula is strangely not borken. it takes some time to configure properly, but when it's up, it's up. < 1377627190 145448 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, Anyway, what about restore? Can it restore to a completely new disk and not need to reactivate windows? Like a dd clone < 1377627192 368459 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe looking at my D&D game recording might also give you some kind of idea what kind of features I like in the game. < 1377627243 457933 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, Hm, so I need to setup many daemons it seems? All can run on the windows computer? < 1377627243 939403 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it can. there may be a little bit of manual involvement if you're working on a particularly screwed up install (like doing partial regbase restores), but otherwise you just have to wait. < 1377627253 449980 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :regbase? < 1377627267 445789 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :base de registre? what's it called in English again? < 1377627270 822107 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I mean total disk failure scenario where you have to buy a new disk < 1377627282 39923 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. no worries, then. < 1377627335 75420 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh the website for bacula claims it is *not* free for windows < 1377627339 765702 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut??? < 1377627348 641089 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bacula.org/en/?page=winbin < 1377627351 548316 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read that < 1377627356 437100 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thedeco: so do you have any other questions like that one? < 1377627373 940394 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: oh. that changed since 2008. < 1377627384 207940 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, well then, any free suggestion? < 1377627439 289217 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: seeing that I have trouble remembering what happened yesterday, delving to the Depths of Five Years Ago is going to be hard. < 1377627449 89872 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1377627463 691772 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can backup from a linux CD, well... < 1377627486 890465 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I can easily back up from Linux, but I want incremental backups, not full blown dd images with no history < 1377627487 984627 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, je sèche. I kinda lost touch with the backup scene. < 1377627493 79568 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use rdiff-backup on Linux < 1377627526 31524 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I think the only reliable sources for that cost money. or, you could also compile bacula on windows, if you feel masöchistic enough. < 1377627540 260425 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh < 1377627543 972130 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh indeed. < 1377627558 596517 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also retain the Profession skills, something which 4e eliminates. However, I also added tactical skills. I retained skill ranks and eliminated class/cross-class skills. You learn skill regardless of your class, although different classes have different number of skill points to spend. < 1377627559 627246 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have VS2010 Ultimate around though < 1377627620 274366 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: skills are a prerequisite. the cleanest system I have ever seen comes from Fudge, but sadly I never had the chance to play it. < 1377627643 350836 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs at Vorpal. “anything goes!” < 1377627646 534842 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, Time Machine, that is backup done right < 1377627648 838019 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one class "Expert" which has a highest number of skill points but not other features. < 1377627652 886290 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wish it wasn't apple only < 1377627665 250458 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: with a shiny nas. simple, efficient, effortless. < 1377627671 822034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other two classes are "Divine" and "Arcane". < 1377627674 787136 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, time machine + nas? Hm < 1377627695 827739 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, the issue with a NAS is what happens if there is a lightning strike. Likely it will knock out any connected electronics < 1377627702 316767 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including the NAS < 1377627739 26393 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: use your own power grid? harness the lightning for your arcane invocations? I dunno. lightning strikes all, and makes no difference. < 1377627754 759596 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, it ignores off site backups :P < 1377627770 211903 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, have a NAS on another continent :P < 1377627778 526114 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, and I have ADSL... < 1377627788 270544 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't be worse than tape backup. < 1377627792 929236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possible business plan: data storage on the moon? < 1377627808 975545 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it would survive a major meteor impact certainly < 1377627833 624358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting at it after the collapse of civilization here might be an issue. < 1377627847 511622 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1377627869 714619 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares about civilization? you have backups! < 1377627884 111512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377627910 514657 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I assume Time Machine keeps some sort of index over changed files all the time since it is so darn fast at doing a backup < 1377628010 927503 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One feature of my system is that a high level arcane caster who wants to have a lot of options will need to have a lot of strength, unless they spend most of their feats on mastering a lot of spells, or store their books at home and take the ones they need, or get someone else to carry their books for them, or whatever. < 1377628025 128678 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1377628051 425705 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: as long as you maintain CCIH, everything is good. < 1377628060 199967 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Character Creation Induced Headaches) < 1377628149 985484 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are character creation induced headaches? Can you give some example please? < 1377628232 437191 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“should I put that point here, or there? or ditch that skill, hope to acquire it later during the campaign? but then if I don't have enough of that, the RP will get *weird*. and the DM's being a %#*%$ lately, so no chance of getting that around... AAAAAAAURGH!” < 1377628237 947986 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something similar. < 1377628301 804874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would have such things, I suppose. < 1377628340 260863 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yé! ☺ < 1377628400 276972 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can see my D&D games stuff (and possibly other stuff I wrote) for my kind of style. Spells needing to be used in creatively newly made up combinations is part of my style. < 1377628416 447283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monster characters is, too. < 1377628465 681664 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using mundane techniques to defect magical ones can also help sometimes, to retain your spell slots/power points, so that they can be used later on, or just to not use magic too much in general. < 1377628574 521922 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you can do stupid actions with awesome side-effects, I'm in. < 1377628609 202361 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can, that is part of idea of my system; spells are used for their side-effects! < 1377628634 896799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used spells for the sole reason that they expire. < 1377628648 497253 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or because of their material components. < 1377628681 653144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or because of the limitation on the kind of targets it can target. < 1377628729 785136 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Pokemon card, I have once played an evolution card for the sole purpose of increasing its retreat cost. < 1377628831 496571 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Did you see my D&D game recordings? If you want to be notified of updates, subscribe to messages starting with "`danddreclist" or make the program notify you. < 1377628864 367645 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist < 1377628865 898023 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist: shachaf nooodl < 1377628875 273321 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. how do I add myself? < 1377628888 498790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask someone else about HackEgo if you want to add your name to the response. < 1377628892 985231 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think I did see them. < 1377628912 156242 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: GREGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR! can you dand me please? :D < 1377628928 71829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't actually know how, myself. However, better is subscribing to messages starting with "`danddreclist", probably) < 1377628951 792950 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: When it is updated, I am always the sender and the session number will be added after "`danddreclist") < 1377628956 96515 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me that last Saturday I shouted the loudest «KAYAK» I ever heard, in front of about a hundred people. that was nice. < 1377628969 616476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/danddreclist < 1377628970 706833 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit \ shachaf \ nooodl < 1377628988 693475 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this settles the matter. < 1377629002 306130 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo boily >> bin/danddreclist < 1377629006 226878 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377629008 892185 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1377629013 640372 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist < 1377629015 44144 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist: shachaf nooodl boily < 1377629022 128197 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? danddreclist < 1377629022 742824 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(weechat probably can subscribe and/or whatever to messages, but I can't be arsed to figure out how.) < 1377629024 80387 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex (the precompiled .dvi is also available) < 1377629035 706799 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! I have that one. < 1377629054 959585 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: thooodl. < 1377629061 395513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: OK. The latest session is 40, though. < 1377629151 553597 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and while you're there, care to provide your body weigh, please? < 1377629236 550508 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :me or zzo38? < 1377629239 711538 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i bin/danddreclist 's|exit|echo http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex; exit|' < 1377629241 40692 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't find label for jump to `in/danddreclist' < 1377629257 492442 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I already have yours. < 1377629258 421703 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh what did i even expect < 1377629278 928009 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's|exit|echo http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex; exit|' < bin/danddreclist < 1377629280 459569 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: no input files < 1377629293 13787 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's|exit|echo http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex; exit|' bin/danddreclist < 1377629297 157890 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377629302 622934 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist < 1377629304 256283 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1377629307 735545 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1377629316 665281 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur < 1377629474 676122 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1377629475 14745 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Dispersing" to "Enveloping" < 1377629484 835032 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1377629485 272085 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 271800Z VRB02KT 12SM OVC025 24/20 A2989 RMK SC8 SLP123 DENSITY ALT 1200FT < 1377629492 623657 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice 20 < 1377629492 807908 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 --- Sum = 16 < 1377629518 402640 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to my tools, I won't need any raincoat tonight. < 1377629748 371559 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't bring the raincoat it will rain < 1377629930 821778 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even if you do bring, it might rain, but it might not. < 1377630323 796331 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PART :#esoteric < 1377630327 453116 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377630487 996166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some BR starting at 10pm, with probabilities of FG at 2am, but no rain until at least 3pm tomorrow. < 1377630551 971526 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1377630554 936801 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYVR < 1377630555 385636 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 271900Z 13012KT 20SM SCT030 OVC150 21/14 A2992 RMK CU4AC4 SLP130 DENSITY ALT 700FT < 1377630602 127542 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377630605 657922 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does BR stand for? is it a french abbreviation or something < 1377630639 450428 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: there are a bunch of arbitrary French abbreviations in metars. < 1377630673 737155 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BR stands for «brume» (Swedish dimma). < 1377630693 878262 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish? < 1377630733 45518 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish. < 1377630738 32053 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :brume is not Swedish for dimma, 'dimma' is < 1377630752 455765 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. < 1377630768 515636 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :väl, too. < 1377630797 211240 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377630843 642729 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :From Old French, from Latin brūma (“winter”). Apparently. < 1377630884 301809 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck brume < 1377630884 664982 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brume definition: mist, fog. < 1377631084 491888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1377631084 636454 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 5h 24m 25s ago: Veien å gå med den sleipe curveball, du djevel. < 1377631098 295344 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. that. heh :D < 1377631132 955134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's usually more idiomatic with "din djevel", also "den sleipe curveball" sounds like a hybrid with danish < 1377631156 996103 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not my problem. blame the google for that. < 1377631174 919780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and "Veien å gå" does _not_ translate "Way to go". < 1377631193 540925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's way too literal < 1377631242 687962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vendémiaire, brumaire, frimaire, nivôse, pluviôse, ventôse, germinal, floréal, prairial, messidor, thermidor, fructidor < 1377631257 833343 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a palindrome? < 1377631260 37030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1377631272 299358 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :m'a dire comme on dit, it's been a while. < 1377631280 674580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think those are the french revolutionary months < 1377631284 134875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1377631284 359655 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why the revolutionary feelings today? < 1377631301 877288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh just "brume" < 1377631354 364242 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, germinal is one of the greatest French novels. < 1377631357 853332 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people die in it. < 1377631367 734820 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377631369 3649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :many novels have that feature < 1377631378 395355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the last novel you read where nobody dies? < 1377631386 370930 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that doesn't make it good or bad < 1377631409 235266 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there are some stories where nobody dies < 1377631447 436085 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: eeeeeeh......... I'm sure I have one somewhere........ < 1377631577 475437 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read "The Saxonbury Printout" a few weeks ago. No-one dies, but it's about a computer possessed by a ghost. Does that count? < 1377631714 788413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was pre-died < 1377631771 928976 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the same character dies multiple times? does that cancel out death? < 1377631782 470587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i think it counts < 1377631986 707455 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the Dungeons&Dragons game, now it is recorded to make up like a story novel book, people die a lot, mainly because they get in everyone's way and do bad things a lot. I want to figure out exactly how common, so I will make a list, only including people killed directly or indirectly by player characters. < 1377632056 263061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can also list who isn't killed, just because I want to make up a list. < 1377632270 522666 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I have a friend who created his own role playing system. I will be playing that tomorrow evening < 1377632278 27856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: What system is that? < 1377632292 693781 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, his own as I said < 1377632305 463200 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know any details? < 1377632331 32315 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I have not studied it in detail yet, though I have a draft for the manual (in Swedish) < 1377632392 83452 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly studied the setting which he created (post-apocalyptic, after ice age of some unknown/mysterious origin, set in central Europe) < 1377632465 475381 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1377632471 875472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I should learn Haskell, I guess =P <-- yeah you won't fit in properly here otherwise. < 1377632513 298273 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any details about the setting, then? < 1377632516 531076 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, from what I saw it was not D&D-style at all. Classless system for example. Not using hitpoints, but wound levels and such < 1377632574 471541 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I gave you some overview above, I need to sleep now and don't have time to translate it all < 1377632621 202106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : That sentence... hurts =P <-- i think it's inspired by Borat or something? < 1377632641 334109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: have any player characters been killed? < 1377632649 899422 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wasn't it a zoolander reference? < 1377632667 265885 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how many litres of blood splattered yet? < 1377632677 60124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what's zoolander? < 1377632685 773884 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the sentence? < 1377632686 588870 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I haven't measured that. < 1377632699 627336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"More than 1000 different errors detected. I'm not reporting any more. Final error counts will be inaccurate. Go fix your program!" < 1377632703 417805 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a comedy with ben stiller. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoolander < 1377632733 569568 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in some cases there is no blood splattered, for example if someone drowns or whatever. < 1377632757 326561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well i don't know if "learn you * for great good" showed up there. < 1377632760 696343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He seized power in a bloodless coup...all stranglings < 1377632789 52149 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring. I like myself some sharks. they have standing. they have class. they have teeth. < 1377632805 292166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shark has personality < 1377632807 939390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :personality goes a long way < 1377632811 45660 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, valgrind? < 1377632814 72872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yep < 1377632822 402165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well googling "for great good" gives mostly haskell hits, although maybe it's just google knowing what i read. < 1377632841 109612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No player characters have been killed (yet). < 1377632849 706735 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, iirc I got that when I tried to run it on a program using python as an embedded scripting language < 1377632903 76126 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1377632906 514366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night Vorpal < 1377632985 445956 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I play carefully so that I don't get killed unless it is really necessary. < 1377633013 607581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : that's our local version of china. Local China → L-Chine → Lachine. <-- huh it apparently _is_ named for china, although for ridiculous reasons < 1377633047 766116 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: bonne nuit! < 1377633087 608909 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and there I was pulling a neighbourhood out of my fungotial regions... tmyk... < 1377633088 113609 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: banq. looke to that anon, embrace thy brother there, reioyce with him. and now lord protector, so it be wholesome food. < 1377633092 882382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : what was the sentence? <-- well _i_ thought he was referring to "learn you a haskell for great good" < 1377633157 684500 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I once found myself naked in the grass with an arm missing in a game of paranoia. < 1377633169 931412 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck banq < 1377633170 215974 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377633221 901276 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, "for great good" sounds like some kind of engrish < 1377633239 997136 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :For great justice. < 1377633241 666358 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Did you fix the arm? < 1377633284 941360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess he got the arm fixed and then got terminated for failing to pay for the operation < 1377633308 274549 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that. I found out that the arm was deeply embedded in a wall... < 1377633338 510009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your arm was a wall banger < 1377633351 246628 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.........................................oerjan............... < 1377633460 897876 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's pacman when you need him? < 1377633501 367227 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ᗧ • • • < 1377633507 68761 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woooo < 1377633556 325892 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377633615 615215 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this Dungeons&Dragons game we have to beat a demon and they moved to another castle and we found them again, but we can't beat them right away just like that, like how in chess you cannot play 1. Kxe8# on your first turn and win. < 1377633643 320844 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you have a shōgi analogue for that? < 1377633661 80160 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It is obvious I suppose. < 1377633707 553349 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck Kxe8# < 1377633707 914393 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377633712 421819 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELP. < 1377633723 694620 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know chess notation? < 1377633748 736412 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kxe8# is probably possible but certainly not as the first move in the game! < 1377633800 40461 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it means you win, I assume it either captures the king or produces check mate? < 1377633807 107923 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know chess notation, I only learned the shōgi one. < 1377633848 550850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :capturing the king is not allowed. < 1377633862 820152 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :On meth it is < 1377633876 174390 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, I just realized that, that's pretty weird really < 1377633888 601265 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought the objective of chess was to capture the king < 1377633902 9150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to be precise, if you're in a situation where it seems like you could, someone did an illegal move or lost already. < 1377633970 325049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you have no move that doesn't leave your king in check, the game is over. < 1377633993 710544 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The # means checkmate. < 1377634027 648798 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooooh. < 1377634032 830733 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The + means check, mate < 1377634103 230552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: my assumption is back in the day when chess was invented, the idea of killing monarchs was so heavily frowned upon that it was not considered civilized even in a game. < 1377634120 411945 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... silly old people < 1377634129 673824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so they ended the game one move earlier. < 1377634152 396780 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Two moves, really < 1377634174 286561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not opposed to sampling a good monarch steak... < 1377634195 164839 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in go they have some similar thing where it's considered rude to keep playing when it should be obvious who will win < 1377634253 336682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well google shows up several monarch steak houses, so you go ahead < 1377634264 770112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meth chess? < 1377634266 8916 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT BUS TIME < 1377634287 545774 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: today you go home by not bus? < 1377634297 372634 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yup. My not bus is parked outside < 1377634301 151280 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cya ^^ < 1377634305 360527 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oï! < 1377634306 536191 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which annoys me greatly because the rules about who wins seem fuzzy as hell, even if you assume you actually finish the whole game) < 1377634339 612482 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: players end the game when every territory is clearly defined, and surrounded by a single player. < 1377634357 208282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I agree that the end condition of go isn't clear enough. < 1377634386 717504 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: now all you need is a clear definition of territory? < 1377634414 188706 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: territory is clear. there's a single colour around it, with potential spots of dead stones from the other player. < 1377634424 89430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well i think it's similar in chess, if it's obvious who will win then the loser should politely resign. < 1377634454 421010 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But it isn't always as obvious as it seems to be. < 1377634495 589422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, but it's the loser's judgement. < 1377634510 688765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1377634512 300322 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is obvious! don't make me invoke the moving pineapples! < 1377634622 632765 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gringmuth notation for transmitting chess moves over radio and telegraph. < 1377634679 60761 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :gringmuth moving pineapple notation? < 1377634792 245447 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn chess is a complex boardgame, where players exchange unclear royal steaks until they decide which of them has lost. The game is recorded through the Gringmuth Moving Pineapple Notation. < 1377634796 330809 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377634846 110736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i s/./C/ wisdom/chess < 1377634849 899568 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377634854 75868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chess < 1377634856 193323 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chess is a complex boardgame, where players exchange unclear royal steaks until they decide which of them has lost. The game is recorded through the Gringmuth Moving Pineapple Notation. < 1377634887 873609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw `learn will automatically lowercase the filename. < 1377634904 277398 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1377634966 509365 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coule. < 1377634995 332313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly wonders if bananas could mean pineapples in swahili < 1377635175 491888 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maNdizi. probably. < 1377635223 125058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mananasi is pineapple but i'm not sure if google is right about the plural being the same < 1377635251 394262 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. according to wikipedia, there are different prefixes (in fact, different noun classes) for plurals. < 1377635287 390136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes so since bantu itself starts with ba i thought that might be for plurals < 1377635311 377031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1377635320 573143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :swahili doesn't use that < 1377635327 781421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be some other bantu language < 1377635435 624210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i don't think google translation's list has any other bantu languages < 1377635503 556260 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :swahili was a trade language, surely it's atypical < 1377635528 792968 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate's armenian is only eastern, which is very annoying. < 1377635701 284079 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've played some games of a chess "variant" with a friend where you don't ever announce check/checkmate, and are free to capture the king at any time and win < 1377635728 368436 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were probably not the first to come up with it though! < 1377635739 86163 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://africanlanguages.com/swahili/ gives me singular nanasi and plural mananasi < 1377635741 560418 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :inattentive chess < 1377635849 366949 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so mananasi is class 6, and ndizi is 9/10. < 1377635882 737208 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ok < 1377636283 981422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess that means it's unlikely to be in the class 1 that many languages start with ba- < 1377636315 316609 :conehead_!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377636323 480368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um class 2 is the plural < 1377636370 787997 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? go < 1377636372 440052 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :go? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377636372 795031 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         | < 1377636373 7255 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       º¯`\o < 1377636373 765265 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1377636379 628620 :conehead_!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead NICK :conehead < 1377636393 768933 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myndzi < 1377636395 660625 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi keeps us all on our feet < 1377636405 442259 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pineapple < 1377636407 61996 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :pineapple? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377636407 458806 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                | < 1377636407 654293 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              o/`¯º < 1377636409 256556 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if a shark chomped your feet off? < 1377636412 484348 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Pineapple is a class 6 vegetable. < 1377636416 503930 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377636519 475636 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Go is a programming language invented by Google, a game invented in East Asia, and a common verb in the English language, invented by Germanic tribes. Taneb invented all three. < 1377636524 405841 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377636544 861532 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, three new tanebventions! < 1377636596 560664 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chinese is weird. pineapple is written as 菠蘿, literally “spinach ivy”. < 1377636621 186219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Go is a common verbal programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in East Asia. < 1377636625 74405 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377636637 633888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shortened it a bit < 1377636649 354329 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you squeeze "strategic" or "territory" in there? < 1377636672 216628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Go is a common verbal programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in the stratetig territories of East Asia. < 1377636675 851918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1377636677 478806 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377636681 669731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Go is a common verbal programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in the stratetic territories of East Asia. < 1377636685 900679 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377636693 242483 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Pineapple is a hybrid species descended from a cultivar of spinach and wild ivy, therefore making it a class 6 vegetable. < 1377636697 661113 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377636699 788665 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :g is hard to spell isn't it < 1377636734 12159 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Go is a common verbal game programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in the strategic territories of East Asia. < 1377636738 677862 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377636805 453863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1377636874 67098 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1377636875 80838 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1377636915 907772 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377636920 159848 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I was thinking, implementing a breadth-first search in a tree with a queue feels kinda like emulating a recursive function with a stack (except you're using a queue instead of a stack). are there other algorithm that feel like that? < 1377636950 284257 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Tanebventions include D-modules, automatic squirrel feeders, and Go < 1377636954 348193 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377636958 83868 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377637048 849851 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebvention < 1377637050 586712 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules and automatic squirrel feeders < 1377637079 524719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/tanebvention{s,} < 1377637083 49350 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377637123 595612 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1377637125 271177 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : A doubly linked list has O(1) insertion and deletion at both ends, so is a natural choice for queues. < 1377637125 488380 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : A regular singly linked list only has efficient insertion and deletion at one end. However, a small modification—keeping a pointer to the last node in addition to the first one—will enable it to implement an efficient queue. < 1377637131 585507 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's from wikipedia < 1377637170 651606 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, how's that wtf? < 1377637174 450859 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does adding links to the previous element make insertion and deletion any more efficient?? < 1377637177 296065 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: `learn should take s into account, presumably < 1377637191 293354 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was more thinking, how do you maintain a pointer to the last node < 1377637203 807140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that seems to have a lot of false positive opportunities < 1377637210 246777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any languages which have something akin to recursion but which operates in a queue-ish fashion? < 1377637223 169522 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: kinda like you maintain a pointer to the first node < 1377637225 769937 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: downloading a bz2 of your repo ends in a corrupted archive. < 1377637235 183409 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: howso? < 1377637237 713131 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Gracenotes/Gregor/ < 1377637239 855443 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well maybe < 1377637253 852626 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: also you could use a circular buffer - ie having the last element point to the first element - this way you only need one pointer, to the last element < 1377637263 615188 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: by greasing and cleaning it regularly? < 1377637274 590615 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I see, the direction of the queue is opposite the direction of the pointers. < 1377637283 667581 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1377637292 566691 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://whois.domaintools.com/twitter.com hackers gettin cute < 1377637304 99191 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: queue automata < 1377637308 783340 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :popular nowadays < 1377637310 467146 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because in order to "remove the first element" you need to get a pointer to the second element < 1377637323 987248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: ah < 1377637331 581216 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, continuations, to some extent < 1377637337 588361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know about the thing that is like a PDA but with queues < 1377637338 878477 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: where is the cuteness? < 1377637339 262820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that what you mean < 1377637348 387908 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "SEA" < 1377637354 71056 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the syrian electronic army < 1377637366 34924 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. sea sea sy. < 1377637378 739248 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes indeedy < 1377637406 662843 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a queue automaton is Turing-complete and has a state machine that peeks and then potentially pops/pushes depending on state < 1377637409 440560 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: the zip download works. doing an ls on the wisdom folder is... uhm.. well... postmodern. < 1377637417 825003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1355 Market Street, Twitterloin < 1377637425 499616 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how come they're so good at it < 1377637439 534483 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the setup is pretty much the same as PDAs, yeah. It's Turing-complete even when it's deterministic, as well. < 1377637446 35906 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A queue machine or queue automaton is a finite state machine with the ability to store and retrieve data from an infinite-memory queue. It is a model of computation equivalent to a Turing machine, and therefore it can process any formal language. < 1377637449 211106 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://nytimes.com/ it is a mystery < 1377637450 359008 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Key people: Th3 Pr0" < 1377637455 654514 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't have that article on esolangs.org < 1377637459 551907 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I add it? < 1377637463 435112 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is that meant to be anything other than down? < 1377637467 419797 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1377637469 145 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/add/stub < 1377637470 629819 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18yc7iz4dyj3ypng/ku-bigpic.png hacked by chinese, though < 1377637483 719094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just an error page for me < 1377637495 720309 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's down for me too, the message was brief < 1377637502 916832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, they just seem kind of unreasonably competent < 1377637509 728011 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I know why the bz2 archive choked. who is the fungot of a fungot who made infinitely recursive folders in wisdom? < 1377637510 288914 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: clo. what is loue, tis not heereafter, present mirth, hath present laughter: what's to do? shall we go? titania. i pray you < 1377637515 294994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a group that hacks the onion's twitter and posts meme images about obama < 1377637538 847240 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«~/temp/hackbot-filesystem-0b2ecb62f0f9/wisdom/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d...» < 1377637543 960994 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they've splintered a few times < 1377637545 439694 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :One commentator notes that "[SEA] volunteers might include Syrian diaspora; some of their hacks have used colloquial English and reddit memes. After Washington Post reporter Max Fisher called their jokes unfunny, one hacker associated with the group told a Vice interview “haters gonna hate.”"[10][11] < 1377637582 936427 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :might explain why they're so friggin pro-assad < 1377637634 518747 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum < 1377637638 431660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: seems related to tag systems (and thus BCT) < 1377637649 610654 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a clever password the other day I was sure I would remember it < 1377637654 714707 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: according to evidence, you are the most likely perpetrator of that FS violation. < 1377637667 534177 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :violation < 1377637669 890643 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1377637673 835308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: did you write it? no copying from wikipedia or such on esolang for licensing reasons < 1377637679 289542 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d < 1377637681 370103 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: d: Is a directory < 1377637695 472924 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I was planning on copying from esolangs.org's push-down automata page < 1377637707 286436 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Syria chemical weapons use reports are pre-planned provocation - Russian Foreign Ministry" yeah sick of reading this already < 1377637710 390975 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l wisdom/d < 1377637711 876904 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1377637714 779302 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then adding {stub} at the bottom < 1377637721 21218 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/d < 1377637722 628062 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 4 \ drwxr-xr-x 3 5000 0 4096 Jun 20 19:19 d \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 0 Jul 31 20:45 da < 1377637742 301985 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nix :') < 1377637796 266269 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going on exactly < 1377637808 478060 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh doom. < 1377637815 614838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/d < 1377637817 301273 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :d \ da < 1377637835 190062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom/d; find < 1377637836 505262 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​. \ ./d \ ./d/d \ ./d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d < 1377637840 861594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1377637842 218889 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1377637847 34991 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not nice. < 1377637852 537608 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1377637852 682227 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing is ODIOUS. < 1377637854 482121 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm filled with pride < 1377637866 451273 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did i do it, for future reference < 1377637867 918741 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smacks Phantom_Hoover with Bike < 1377637884 214678 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow hey there < 1377637886 667956 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no idea, but you create corrupted unrecoverable bz2 archives. < 1377637894 126030 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sorry. < 1377637906 800382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a corrupting influence? < 1377637913 542029 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i demand to know the charges against me < 1377637925 829130 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I be voiced? I want to oppress Phantom_Hoover. < 1377637950 843580 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the bonus question in our exam was to recover a file from a corrupted archive < 1377637986 734104 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now that I have a local wisdomcopy, time to latexify the whole thing...) < 1377638014 838667 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i gather this isn't a symlink loop somehow? < 1377638031 279199 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :boily > 1377638031 467584 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377638042 45448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa. < 1377638047 516637 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -ld wisdom/d < 1377638049 73118 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x 3 5000 0 4096 Jul 31 20:45 wisdom/d < 1377638053 27048 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -ld wisdom/d/d < 1377638054 642321 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x 3 5000 0 4096 Jun 20 19:19 wisdom/d/d < 1377638063 5016 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: FEEEEEEL THE OPPRESSION! < 1377638063 235944 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow good. < 1377638067 405376 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that even possible < 1377638077 520753 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i be voiced also < 1377638089 82579 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you understand how oppression works! < 1377638101 945004 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, well at least show me the evidence against me! < 1377638110 267844 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :HackEgo > 1377638110 291463 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377638119 432733 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit < 1377638141 190351 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody take cover < 1377638143 545180 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :The HackEgOppressor < 1377638153 749247 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1377638155 505411 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, automatic squirrel feeders, and Go < 1377638195 236617 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377638205 387227 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy. fungot. of. doom. I promise to properly oppress only those who deserve it! < 1377638207 745926 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: husband. god den, i thank you truly, la! ' nothing doubting' says he? alas, ha's banish'd me his bed already, his love too, who looses, yet ile preserve the honour of the forlorne french: him i forgiue my death, and death's dim look in life's mortality: each in her sleep themselves so beautify, as if that joy were now become a losse, cryes, oh, love's bow shoots buck and doe; the shaft confounds not that it wounds, but t < 1377638227 508122 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/d/da < 1377638228 614431 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377638233 856329 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the First Evidence Against You: «ngevd is a fake wisdom entry. `? ngevd is special-cased in bin/?. leave this file alone Phantom_Hoover‼» < 1377638235 591011 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d < 1377638237 726141 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d nothing < 1377638260 363771 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, circumstantial! < 1377638290 589350 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :circumstantial shmircumstantial. < 1377638328 740243 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -ld wisdom/d/d/d < 1377638330 759482 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x 3 5000 0 4096 Jun 20 19:19 wisdom/d/d/d < 1377638359 90725 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for god's sake, it's an hg repository people < 1377638362 85794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that was an entirely reasonable edit < 1377638374 383576 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be able to pin down exactly who created this madness < 1377638378 810136 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok back up here < 1377638380 365609 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"an hg"? < 1377638383 154228 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that pronounced < 1377638390 58612 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's the real issue here. < 1377638391 94502 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ache gé. < 1377638401 367610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an aitch gee < 1377638401 512186 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't give me your swedish shit here < 1377638416 617242 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oughta be "hig" imo < 1377638419 895407 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "mercurial"... < 1377638429 712402 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ain't no sedish salmiak there. as a proud Canadian, I resent that remark. < 1377638434 559283 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1377638434 704066 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/se/swe/ < 1377638434 849029 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1377638438 660641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d < 1377638440 286080 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d: No such file or directory < 1377638446 680852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1377638455 309260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d < 1377638457 81228 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 72 Jun 20 19:22 wisdom/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d < 1377638468 16411 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why so many subdirectories < 1377638468 499503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d < 1377638470 334412 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 4 \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 72 Jun 20 19:22 d < 1377638479 875454 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :please tell me you didn't try cp -R . . < 1377638483 894064 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's finite you idiots < 1377638494 652300 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what! that's so boring. < 1377638499 778168 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d < 1377638501 106084 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d nothing < 1377638519 208932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh of course < 1377638527 56174 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... < 1377638534 846295 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :created by mv wisdom/tanebvention{s,} < 1377638541 472027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in that case, why does it corrupt the bz2 archive? < 1377638546 619239 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no reason left to oppress Phantom_Hoover... :( < 1377638561 473554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what < 1377638571 399056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: probably some boring reason. weird unicode stuff going on, I guess. < 1377638577 783652 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/5c29355f719e/wisdom/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d < 1377638612 928943 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1377638620 252543 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no it was http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/rev/21a5f1578f31 < 1377638625 95806 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'guestbot' < 1377638676 485095 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. in that case, I'll have to oppress the least levenshteined person to guestbot. < 1377638678 158098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh that's just the bug where the repository browser lists the latest commit to the whole repository instead of to just that file. < 1377638697 603087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite annoying. < 1377638700 197411 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest18414: FEEL THE WRATH OF OPPRESSION‼ < 1377638768 869250 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: on the recent events that I can't get my freaking password, i'll let someone else make the page < 1377638823 262063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: looks like guestbot did it in /msg to hackego... < 1377638835 224332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2013-06-21#142222 < 1377638843 182103 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I scared it away or something >_> < 1377639011 11819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just make Koen_'s password hunter2 and get it away with. < 1377639043 803657 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1377639045 492227 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :password? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377639045 891676 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               | < 1377639046 51592 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             o/`¯º < 1377639073 510733 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one thing for it. < 1377639077 268328 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :myndzi > 1377639077 278691 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377639113 394360 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Earl Grey Flavored Black Tea. How do they know what Mr. Grey tasted like? < 1377639113 854487 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem solved. < 1377639127 450688 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean because of teh "<>" thing. < 1377639131 625794 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: tested like tea, obviously < 1377639339 888494 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1377639550 707346 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377639574 534831 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1377639712 854120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: um myndzi looks properly aligned to me. and he did fix some alignment issues the other day. < 1377639724 968653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? what now < 1377639726 723316 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377639727 646435 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               | < 1377639727 790958 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             o/`¯º < 1377639744 66078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he was misaligned with HackEgo. < 1377639751 173770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to me < 1377639775 559420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although he still isn't, so that's ok < 1377639797 169564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you should /set show_nickmode_empty off :p < 1377639810 873929 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"share my alignment issues" < 1377639864 302771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that change and why would i want it. < 1377639887 795357 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes "< elliott> into "" < 1377639902 125896 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want it so that you can share with elliott your sadness at myndzi misalignment < 1377639903 490153 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does that have a setting? < 1377639905 350861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no initial < < 1377639915 302436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, sick. < 1377639917 748233 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also twisted < 1377639921 104311 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :please stop with the unmatched bracket < 1377639943 461577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mode is shown in its own column prior to the nicks < 1377639996 224181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which looks really nice when there is no < < 1377640028 442858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: <3 < 1377640058 617563 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: the < ? < 1377640063 933011 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU CAN'T CLOSE A THREE WITHOUT OPENING AN EPSILON FIRST OKAY < 1377640088 449834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :people here are weird < 1377640097 240263 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: ♥ < 1377640110 414851 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what makes you say so? I am not insane. < 1377640121 317659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am sorry you don't get the full tone of my responses because of the script stripping < 1377640158 439032 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he he he hth. < 1377640291 546307 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377640323 424749 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377640346 694015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck braid < 1377640347 120118 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :braid definition: to make from braids. < 1377640354 471152 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? braid theory < 1377640356 268367 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Braid theory is the theory of braids. < 1377640369 561197 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category theory < 1377640371 455439 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category theory is the theory of categories. < 1377640372 928277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Hexham/Helsinki/Lachine axis | 22nd IOCCC: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric hth < 1377640417 346635 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0xHAM < 1377640491 555907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Braid theory is the extremely twisted theory of braids. < 1377640495 507559 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377640498 152907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh oops < 1377640521 191797 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: uhm. could you uh... not edit the wisdom DB for a while, please? I'm latexing it. < 1377640534 293279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/braid{,' theory'} < 1377640537 290009 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377640544 40357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? braid theory < 1377640545 991225 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Braid theory is the extremely twisted theory of braids. < 1377640553 819413 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, I guess the worse that could happen is that my version'll become somewhat like the hitchiker's guide and be authoratively incorrect on the subject. < 1377640573 291084 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377640594 590748 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, someone is handing out holey bibles and people are getting holes in their windows < 1377640601 393228 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is op, please nerf < 1377640622 739824 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: behold the OP of the BOT. < 1377640641 448937 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, I have «a» and «b» covered. < 1377640697 701870 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you should make some kind of script for this so you can easily repeat your work when wisdom expands < 1377640711 881564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm with olsner < 1377640779 432842 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to, but there are some entries that are unicodely creative, other that I have to hand edit because of my linter, and some that don't match their filename. < 1377640794 393502 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, how did I get that nice linter bound with vim???) < 1377640922 978991 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, some entries I nicely format, others I completely ignore cause I'm a lazy bitch, and stuff. < 1377641322 811887 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1377641437 697535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Possible business plan: data storage on the moon? Getting at it after the collapse of civilization here might be an issue. who cares about civilization? you have backups! < 1377641441 306310 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1095) Possible business plan: data storage on the moon? Getting at it after the collapse of civilization here might be an issue. who cares about civilization? you have backups! < 1377641468 460558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have blatantly censored half-relevant but unfunny parts by Vorpal here. < 1377641520 755847 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how oppressive of you < 1377641531 16729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the fashionable thing < 1377641630 976304 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I approve of you oppressiveness. < 1377641635 559803 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/you/your/ < 1377642023 432435 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«c» and «d» are covered. I'm hungry. < 1377642029 227733 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: foude. < 1377642036 578658 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377642134 601976 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category < 1377642136 638467 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories are just a special case of bicategories. < 1377642147 676154 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm good definition < 1377642469 571516 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377642864 901686 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo In category theory, category theory is a theory in the category of theories. > wisdom/category\ theory < 1377642868 377893 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377642873 559674 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category theory < 1377642874 881539 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :In category theory, category theory is a theory in the category of theories. < 1377642907 412982 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just not helpful at all < 1377642947 575537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: So no real change, then? < 1377643694 308669 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good news for sgeos: the thing i have to use for class uses tcl scripting < 1377644518 289522 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377645933 798921 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377646950 339332 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377646967 220695 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377646982 332904 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377647722 697697 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_