00:00:15 Bike: Did that interests you yet? 00:11:31 no 00:12:39 OK 00:13:25 -!- SingingBoyo has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 00:15:22 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: Koen_). 00:17:41 -!- jconn has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 01:10:10 -!- jconn has joined. 02:06:48 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 02:15:41 -!- dessos has quit (Quit: leaving). 02:25:57 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:36:26 Objectionitive Wizardry {1W} Creature - Elemental Wizard 1/1 Protection from enchanted objects | {3W}, {T}: Put a Aura enchantment token with "Enchant creature | Enchanted creature gets +1/+1." on target creature. 02:39:23 "The closing of an online virtual game may sound trivial to anyone who has never used or visited one, but to the people who spent a chunk of their formative years forging relationships inside their virtual walls, the loss can be huge." 02:39:27 Someone who understands! 02:45:40 zzo38: Mtg Person I Know says the only tokens are creatures. 02:51:42 Bike: Of all known cards yes, but some versions of the rules say any permanent. Still, there are many rules I would change, one is that a token can be any object. 02:53:41 I would do it like this: The state based effect causing tokens outside of play zone ceasing to exist would be removed, and instead, they cease to exist due to lacking an initial state. Also, copies of spells are tokens. 02:53:57 This seem more logical to me. 02:54:32 What do you think of it? 02:55:05 basically nothing since i don't play mtg 02:55:58 I would also remove the state based effects about auras/equipments that are also creatures, and about losing due to run out of cards to draw; instead, the meaning of "draw a card" becomes: If there is a card in your draw pile, put the top one into your hand, otherwise you lose the game. 02:56:29 how is that different from running out of cars to draw making you lose 02:57:45 Bike: It would rarely make a difference. However, there are a few rare circumstances where it might differ, for example if you have an effect that causes damage and you draw a card together, then if you have no cards to draw then you lose, since the losing due to life total happens later because it is a state based effect. 02:59:02 zzo38: losing due to card draw is also a state based action 02:59:17 coppro: Yes I know. However, this is a rule I would change so that it isn't. 02:59:25 coppro: There are many rules I would change. 03:15:09 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 03:22:45 -!- mnoqy has joined. 04:03:12 -!- Bike_ has joined. 04:03:17 -!- Bike has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:03:33 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 05:35:53 Why am I watching Mulan right now? 05:36:36 I don't know. Why am I still awake 05:37:20 who fucking knows sgeo. who fucking knows anything. i don't fucking know the series of events that led to you watching mulan. it could be anything. it is everything. the entirety of existence has led to this point, this point of you asking why you are watching mulan. are you even watching mulan? i don't know i can't know. all i have is your word, your words on a screen. a tiny portion of the fucking gigantic lightcone i live in. iti goes so ... 05:37:26 ... damn far. so damn far sgeo. i can't even see a lightyear out my window and you expect me to know why you're watching mulan? what the fuck sgeo? waht the fuck 05:42:01 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 05:44:33 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +v Bike. 05:45:23 -!- dan200 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:45:29 thanks 05:52:17 It has led to this point 06:03:14 What kind of point? 06:03:45 This one 06:04:23 Can you please be more specific? 06:04:53 i'm referring to literally one point particularly. i cannot be more specific. it is impossible. how can i be more specific than "this thing right here" 06:05:53 That is true, you cannot be more specific than that, but "this thing right here" isn't meaningful unless you know which one you mean. 06:06:08 This one. This point. Right here. The point we are at. 06:07:04 That isn't a single point, though. 06:07:17 yeah it is. 06:07:57 Maybe to you it is, but not necessarily to me. 06:08:05 we're at the same point, tha'ts impossible 06:08:55 Don't you know relativity and uncertainty principle and so on too? For one thing we are not at the same point, is one such thing. 06:09:18 not that kind of point. 06:09:39 the other kind. 06:09:39 this one. 06:09:39 Anyway, Euclidean space is a myth. 06:09:51 There's no connection here. 06:09:51 Are you afraid? 06:10:14 A myth? I think Euclidean space still seems mathematically OK, although it isn't the only kind of geometry. 06:10:19 I am not afraid of it, though. 06:11:23 Are *you* agraid of it? 06:12:16 no 06:12:24 anyway i didn't say of what 06:12:41 of it! 06:13:09 oh 06:33:50 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 06:34:18 -!- copumpkin has joined. 06:34:55 -!- tswett has quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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ZZZzzz...). 17:36:54 http://np.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/1l19ym/greek_nazi_propaganda_in_nyc/cbur6id I hate Reddit sometimes (highly upvoted mysogeny) 17:44:33 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 17:52:18 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 17:55:11 -!- asie has joined. 17:58:48 -!- Bike has joined. 18:00:04 -!- asie has quit (Client Quit). 18:02:50 -!- asie has joined. 18:23:26 -!- dfgdfh has joined. 18:24:57 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 18:25:13 kiss my ass 18:25:54 `welcome dfgdfh 18:25:59 dfgdfh: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 18:26:05 aww c'mon, you can troll better than that and we both know it. I believe in you dfgdfh! 18:26:48 kiss my ass kiss my ass 18:26:50 kiss my ass kiss my ass 18:26:51 kiss my ass kiss my ass 18:26:57 damn steppin it up 18:27:15 `echo kiss my ass 18:27:16 kiss my ass 18:27:19 :o 18:29:22 whois dfgdfh 18:29:25 oops. 18:30:01 is thisthat one person i vaguely reemmber 18:31:30 I don't remember anybody from belarus 18:33:43 went to have a drink 18:35:02 where are you from? 18:35:05 elliott: i mean wasn't there a person who had a bunch of df nicks 18:35:53 -!- Sgeo_ has changed nick to UristMcSgeo. 18:35:56 A DF nick 18:36:17 Bike: they were australian or something 18:36:18 dumb 18:36:28 elliott: what if they're behind seven proxies.......... 18:36:31 You do not know me 18:36:40 i am from: the mountains 18:36:42 nice place 18:37:24 i from minsk 18:38:01 my name evgeni 18:38:03 that's hardly belarus at all. 18:38:28 -!- Taneb has joined. 18:38:48 I do not quite understand what you are saying 18:39:09 me neither 18:39:38 I do not know much english 18:40:13 why did you say "kiss my ass" 18:40:44 just like that ) 18:41:47 you speak Russian ? 18:41:55 nope 18:42:01 ( 18:42:48 dfgdfh, i hear they have lots of radiation over there 18:42:50 this is bad ( 18:43:26 why do you keep saying ( 18:43:41 is it a man with no eyes frowning 18:43:52 ))) 18:43:57 sorry I had to do it 18:44:05 you really didn't 18:44:12 one of the bots should have a counter to tell how many nested parentheses the channel is in 18:44:27 and maybe fizzie could graph it over time 18:44:30 in fact I find it highly surprising that none does 18:44:49 running a cfg over the entirety of the logs sounds like a pain 18:46:20 35 IRC Operators online 18:46:22 lots of 18:47:42 did someone remove the url for jsvine's survey from the topic? 18:48:36 No? 18:51:43 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 18:51:58 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 18:52:24 what would you do with parenthesis-based smileys 18:52:37 hmm, maybe just count them 18:53:04 you'd have to alternate sad/happy and left/right smileys appropriately 19:02:05 -!- sacje has joined. 19:03:55 -!- Bike has joined. 19:14:33 -!- asie has joined. 19:25:56 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 19:26:30 -!- copumpkin has joined. 19:26:35 * Gracenotes heading up to SF to do random biking 19:26:44 and random bike parking, though hopefully not random bike stealing 19:28:25 -!- stuntaneous has joined. 19:30:34 New RegexPL release, try it before your girlfriend! http://zuu.dk/index.php?page=regexpl 19:30:47 just to be nostalgic, I might try the commute I did back in the summer of 2011 19:31:34 then take embarcadero to fisherman's wharf, wait in line 30 minutes for In-n-Out, and cross Golden Gate bridge 19:31:47 enough to fill my SF quota for at least a few months. 19:37:04 mm, yeah, so if anyone from the general area wants to hang out later on, lemme know 19:39:47 I put into the computer the two spells I made up for Dungeons&Dragons game which I have selected for my character, these ones are "Kjugobe's Timer" and "Kjugobe's Notification". An idea is next add a "Kjugobe's Trigger", which probably is much higher level spell. 19:43:13 -!- dfgdfh has left. 19:43:19 -!- stuntaneous has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:45:20 -!- stuntaneous has joined. 19:48:35 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:48:43 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 19:49:02 -!- augur has joined. 19:54:06 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 19:55:46 -!- asie has joined. 20:07:01 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 20:08:58 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 20:09:28 -!- copumpkin has joined. 20:11:05 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 20:21:44 -!- asie has joined. 20:23:05 -!- augur has joined. 20:24:27 mmm. the smell of quines in the morning. except it's actually evening, but you know. 20:28:51 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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I didn't know it was so EZ 23:11:57 -!- SirCmpwn has quit (Excess Flood). 23:15:53 -!- SirCmpwn has joined. 23:24:36 "THIS is why crime must never be allowed to decline in New York City — LESS crime in the city means MORE crime in the quiet and pristine suburbs. Why hasn't Bloomberg been arrested for this?" 23:27:58 too busy arresting him for everything else, one hopes 23:30:36 -!- mnoqy has joined. 23:31:07 -!- scoofy has left. 23:32:12 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection).