00:03:56 kmc: lots of things going on 00:03:59 it's fun 00:04:12 cool 00:06:04 omg shachaf turned into One Of Them 00:06:12 omg a wild copumpkin appeared 00:06:17 * copumpkin hides 00:06:23 it's super effective 00:06:38 no it's not i still see it 00:06:40 :) 00:07:58 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:11:05 List of some DD spells/psionics I made up on this paper includes: Invisibility to Humans, Kjugobe's Fast Growth, Kjugobe's Timer, Kjugobe's Notification, Kjugobe's Super Mind Blast, Kjugobe's Rewind, (some spells are named after their inventor, and so are many of these ones) 00:12:58 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 00:13:16 copumpkin: zomg 00:13:51 Do you have another idea too? 00:24:19 Kjugobe's Hovering Bubble 00:25:01 Which does what? 00:25:12 hover 00:25:45 well it allows you to float in the air, i think it will combine nicely with Invisibility to Humans. 00:26:12 not recommended in strong winds. 00:27:03 carry capacity may depend on success roll. 00:27:33 scoofy: you could say? :P 00:27:35 O, so that's how it would work. 00:28:12 Where in the air will you float and what is the affect of others on it? 00:28:45 elliott: been lurking around for a while 00:28:58 `relcome scoofy 00:29:00 ​scoofy: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! 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(For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 00:29:06 well you can guide it in all directions to some extent, but as mentioned it's sensitive to wind. 00:29:24 i suppose archers might affect it *POOF* 00:30:44 OK 00:31:08 and other sharp weapons, but they have to reach the bubble 00:32:01 What if someone inside, attacks outward or touches things outward? 00:32:32 hm i guess sharp weapons can also break it from inside. 00:33:09 it might be slightly elastic. like a thick balloon. 00:33:23 O, so that's how you cancel it. 00:36:09 But what if whoever inside try to touch objects on the outside? 00:39:00 it behaves like a solid elastic surface which tries to keep its initial shape and size. it is somewhat elastic, but you cannot pass through it without breaking it. 00:40:12 although spells can be cast through it. 00:40:34 You mean like http://gallery.burrowowl.net/images/0b/0bfdee42fb4c8a63c76fc1a5545de201 00:41:04 no hth 00:41:18 i am imagining it to be spherical by default. 00:41:38 what strange french acronym is hth? 00:41:42 also transparent. 00:41:56 doesthiswork: i never said the acronyms should be french, sheesh 00:43:32 basically it should look like a large soap bubble but be less fragile. i think maybe soap might be a material component of the spell. 00:44:13 hth is not an acronym, hth 00:44:25 Well, maybe it is in french. 00:44:46 in french it is inaudible as all the letters are silent hth 00:46:15 You say spells can cast through it. I suppose certainly magical abilities such as mind blast, telepathy, illusions, mage hand, etc can work through it, but what about such physical effect of magical spells, such as magic missile, fire balls, force cage, etc? 00:49:06 hm i guess physically destructive spells shouldn't. 00:50:36 I suppose physically destructive spells would break it and then still work, maybe. Is that what you were thinking of? 00:50:43 yeah 00:51:43 it's not meant to be good for combat, more like for escape or transportation. 00:52:01 -!- sacje has quit (Excess Flood). 00:52:30 -!- sacje has joined. 00:58:09 I need to learn to trust mouse wheels again 00:58:24 After my months of betrayal by them 01:00:19 `quote toilet 01:00:21 104) alise: mainly it's the fact it blows so hard i cannot avoid hitting the walls of the thing, which completely goes against my basic public toilet hygiene principles \ 380) * Sgeo mutters about broken toilets #toilet is useless is #toilet even a thing I'm looking for help with toilets \ 381) Dear eHow: Pl 01:00:35 `quote eHow 01:00:37 78) I seem to think of coaxial cables as being omnipotent somehow. \ 381) Dear eHow: Please don't assume that my toilet works like that Or, at least, my toilet looks different \ 599) Somehow I managed to read Haskell as Befunge \ 1084) my emergency contacts list somehow has my father listed in both 01:10:50 -!- oklofok has joined. 01:11:22 * oerjan suddenly realizes how much weirder 104 looks without context 01:12:37 (it was about the Dyson Airblade drier) 01:12:51 pretty sure that's why it was added 01:13:18 OKAY 01:13:42 -!- oklopol has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 01:14:01 i was previously assuming it was weird enough even with context 01:14:49 `run quote toilet | tail -c 400 01:14:50 r back? yeah... it adds up \ 725) aim hecker (n): when ur dronk and u pee so bad all over the toilet that ppl make fun of u (corruption of "aim heckler") \ 986) i'm not actually competent at hacking things ummmm kmc dont u mean `cracking' [tiny glider symbol with "hacker pride" written next to it in silkscreen] [head o 01:15:11 `run quote toilet | tail -c 350 01:15:12 n): when ur dronk and u pee so bad all over the toilet that ppl make fun of u (corruption of "aim heckler") \ 986) i'm not actually competent at hacking things ummmm kmc dont u mean `cracking' [tiny glider symbol with "hacker pride" written next to it in silkscreen] [head of a gnu] [tux penguin] [face shoved in toilet 01:15:37 i see we have a lot of toilet quotes 01:16:28 n) 01:28:42 shachaf: speculation: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15861177&postcount=25 01:29:58 Not the best speculation, maybe 01:39:07 Sgeo: good luck finding any remains after the explosion 01:41:28 -!- SingingBoyo has joined. 01:42:12 -!- ^v has changed nick to dan200. 01:51:30 oerjan: I was thinking more in terms of they'd probably not like Lawful Evil either. Hating Paladins doesn't mean being ok with Evil 01:54:37 -!- trout has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:55:02 -!- sacje has quit (Quit: sacje). 01:55:43 Sgeo: no, but we are talking about people descending from a usually evil race of dragons here. 01:57:02 hmm 01:57:31 I was under the impression that the Scribble was * Good or * Neutral 01:57:44 Same with defending the gate 01:58:20 what's a Scribble 01:58:22 Although I guess that doesn't exclude being ok with being revived by Lawful Evil, and I guess even Evil characters might defend the Gate or work to protect reality 01:58:25 Order of the Scribble 01:58:37 Soon, Girard, et. al 01:58:56 Oh, that might be a fan nickname 01:59:04 oh sure, i am assuming girard is chaotic good, but he's still descended from a dragon 01:59:46 well, maybe neutral. 02:13:15 -!- kallisti has joined. 02:13:16 -!- kallisti has quit (Changing host). 02:13:16 -!- kallisti has joined. 02:14:28 the snarl looks to be still there 02:26:43 oerjan: ah yeah I have the same problem with the airblade 02:27:41 here's a taboo thought: washing your hands after using the facilities is not beneficial in every circumstance 02:28:20 i still do it because a) conditioning b) people will look at you like you just kicked a puppy 02:30:15 i love how the airblade makes it basically impossible to avoid contact with the fan nozzle 02:30:23 great hygiene there dyson 02:30:34 how is it not beneficial and do i really want to know. 02:31:10 Phantom_Hoover: that's what my quote is _about_ hth 02:32:29 have i done my dyson routine here yet 02:32:32 i feel sure i have 02:32:47 i don't remember seeing it 02:34:57 kmc: in any case where it's not beneficial you need to call authorities to get the place closed down immediately hth 02:36:15 in case of authorities not willing/able to do so, you need to take over the government. 02:36:42 hth. 02:40:06 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 02:45:13 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:49:33 -!- variable has joined. 02:54:25 -!- dessos has joined. 03:03:30 -!- EgoBot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:03:48 -!- Gregor has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 03:03:53 -!- EgoBot has joined. 03:15:58 -!- dessos has left. 03:16:32 I'm in a nonexistent building that I think is older than elliott (I forget exactly how old elliott is) 03:17:16 This building was made November 1995 03:17:26 I am also in a building older than I am. 03:17:47 but no, that's younger 03:17:51 i am in a building younger than i am hth 03:18:31 Apparently Active Worlds had some promotional thing with Jumanji 03:19:12 Now I realized a unusual feature I put in the Z-machine assembler, which is the DW_SKIP command. I don't konw of other assembler having such feature. 03:21:18 Do you know if there is some? 03:21:54 (The DW_SKIP command takes a count and then the data; however, the count is how many numbers of the data will be skipped and not written to the output.) 03:22:51 -!- sacje has joined. 03:22:56 Pretty sure this "Historical Society" is older than the thing it was studying was when the historical society was created 03:23:27 AW was 1995(?), maybe 1997 went public, the historical society was 2000 03:30:04 `addquote it's not weird, it's even in alphabetical order and nicely formatted! 03:30:07 1092) it's not weird, it's even in alphabetical order and nicely formatted! 03:33:31 What is the "pronounce" name for the comma command in Forth? 03:35:15 zzo38: do you have a link to your z-machine stuff? 03:36:19 doesthiswork: Yes, I do have. You can find it in my user page of IF Wiki, and you can look in http://zzo38computer.org/zmachine/ 03:38:44 I have reached a location of Bill Clinton jokes 03:40:32 those still exist? 03:44:18 Bill Clinton jokes are immortal, much like Bill Clinton. 03:45:28 zzo38: thank you 03:45:55 doesthiswork: they were popular in 1998 or so, and that's when those signs at the location I was at were built 03:48:48 doesthiswork: Does this work? [O, it is same name] 03:49:17 ja it works 03:50:10 I am writing the document for Frolg 1.3 and will released soon. 03:50:33 (Frolg is the Z-machine assembler. Aimfiz and Fweep are interpreters.) 03:51:43 Do you know some things about Z-machine? 03:52:19 nothing more than is on wikipedia, they seem quite esoteric 03:55:11 help 03:55:22 So, a while back I posted a list of "incorrect jokes". 03:55:40 Example: "What's the best thing about living in Switzerland? Well, the flag is pretty nice." 03:56:17 I've forgotten the original version of one of the jokes. 03:56:21 The modified version is: "You know, I think I might become a mirror inspector." 03:58:18 is that the entire modified joke or just the punchline? 03:58:57 -!- azaq23 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 03:59:15 so I"m defining addition as A + 0 = A, A + S(B) = S( A + B), A + T(B) = T( A + B) <-- i think that's basically concatenation if you think of the type as list of S's and T's 03:59:32 yup it is 03:59:39 which i guess makes it associative, at least :) 04:00:10 and commutative when adding things to 0 04:00:46 doesthiswork: that's the entire modified joke. 04:01:04 Like, what could the original have been? Something involving the phrase "looking into mirrors"? 04:01:15 "I've been reflecting on my life and..." 04:02:02 "after some reflection I think I might become a mirror inspector." 04:03:47 oerjan: I defined it so it would be concatenation 04:05:32 because it would be annoy if it did something different like A + S(B) = S( B + A) 04:06:57 these new ops are growing our ban list something fearfully 04:07:51 oerjan: Yes I think it probably is. 04:13:17 -!- sacje has quit (Read error: Connection timed out). 04:14:01 -!- sacje has joined. 04:23:10 tswett: Does my proposed joke work? 04:23:57 Pretty sure that isn't the original. 04:38:52 -!- Gregor has joined. 05:20:54 -!- sacje has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 05:25:23 -!- sacje has joined. 05:42:22 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 05:45:20 -!- asie has joined. 05:56:16 `olist 05:56:18 olist: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly 06:00:21 -!- dan200 has changed nick to ^v. 06:03:53 (913) 06:09:28 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 06:09:57 -!- copumpkin has joined. 06:12:01 -!- ^v has quit (Quit: Leaving). 06:19:30 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz...). 10:17:52 -!- asie has joined. 10:37:03 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 10:40:06 -!- SingingBoyo has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 10:40:15 Hello 10:43:51 afternoon 11:01:13 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 11:02:53 -!- yorick has joined. 11:10:58 -!- mnoqy has joined. 11:26:39 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 11:51:48 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 11:53:20 -!- samantus has joined. 11:53:25 Hi samantus 11:53:25 AnotherTest: Hi samantus 11:56:17 `relcome samantus 11:56:17 Roujo: Implies 11:56:22 Awwww 11:56:23 ​samantus: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 11:56:26 Yayyy! 11:56:42 is it me or does "relcome" sounds japanese? 11:56:58 sound 11:58:35 Rofl 11:58:36 Yeah 12:00:20 hm, so much new esolangs lately: doublefuck, jumpfuck, bitfuck, reduced instruction set brainfuck, braincurses, braincursion, paintfuck++ 12:00:54 paintfuck++ looks interesting 12:01:01 Well, its name does 12:01:07 yeah it has two fancy + symbols in it 12:01:15 "Votre recherche de paintfuck++ ne correspond à aucun document." 12:01:26 It's the "paint" part that intrigues me 12:01:36 "This language is by User:Poolala, and is an extension of the Paintfuck language. Each cell is represented as an RGB code, and the colors wrap. (FF to 00, 00 to FF) The cell array is the same as Paintfuck's." 12:01:54 it's just painfuck with an extra instruction or something 12:01:56 http://esolangs.org/wiki/Paintfuck%2B 12:02:53 oh it's + not ++, my bad 12:03:18 Close enough 12:03:45 so basically it replaces the flip cell command with increment/decrement cell 12:04:16 so it's like paintfuck IN COLOUR 12:04:42 Yes 12:04:59 fair enough 12:05:49 Each cell also seems to have a "current color" selector for the R/G/B component. 12:06:20 bitfuck is equivalend to smallfuck with input, except for the fact that it's syntax is ambiguous 12:06:26 *its 12:07:27 oh it isn't 12:07:38 I thought ! actually did something 12:08:32 Hmm, doublefuck sounds familiar 12:10:07 surely, there must be another 2D brainfuck variant 12:10:13 If you make a derivative using lisp syntax, you get s-fuck 12:10:33 -!- nucular has joined. 12:10:42 -!- asie has joined. 12:11:13 well now that we have come to the doublefuck point, it is clearly time to make n-dimensional brainfuck to ensure nobody makes a 3D variant 12:11:33 although I fear that might not stop anyone 12:13:17 -!- asie has quit (Read error: No route to host). 12:13:37 -!- asie has joined. 12:14:36 Do you count a two-tape brainfuck as "2D"? 12:14:59 AnotherTest: Dimensifuck hth 12:15:10 oerjan: aah 12:15:40 oerjan: That's not a N-tape variant, though. (Which would be kind of the logical extension from DoubleFuck.) 12:15:51 well, fizzie 12:16:04 it has 2 dimensions but they're not fully accessible 12:16:06 that's how I see it 12:16:49 i'm not sure if there's an arbitrary-dimension variant which affects both code and tape 12:17:15 samantus: Does such a brainfuck variant exist? 12:17:15 AnotherTest: Variant exist 12:17:25 samantus: You're stupid, do you know that? 12:17:25 AnotherTest: Do you call it where you need to be a good one 12:18:27 oerjan: Clearly you must define a brainfuck variant where the code lives in an N-dimensional space, and there are M separate L-dimensional "tapes". 12:20:11 the the code must be written in N dimensions 12:20:51 thus, I conclude that we can only trivially represent 3-dimensional code 12:21:09 Why not Yog-Sothoth? 12:21:33 an n-dimensional being can represent (n - 1) dimensional brainfuck code I guess 12:22:03 Shameful fact: there's no standard for Funge-98 source files for dimensionalities larger than three. 12:22:14 thus, can 4 dimensional brainfuck code exist in our universe? I think it can, if your source code mutates in time 12:22:28 (In TreFunge-98, form feed increments the z coordinate and resets x and y to zero.) 12:22:32 Self-modifying brainfuck 12:22:56 You don't need to mix time in there, there's nothing preventing you from writing brainfuck code with four spatial dimensions. 12:23:31 allocate 4 dimensional matrix for data tape, and you're set 12:23:35 fizzie: I don't understand how one would write 4 dimensional code 12:23:47 scoofy: I mean the code itself, not the memory 12:23:48 AnotherTest: simply 12:24:03 AnotherTest: Just define a file format for it. Possibly also write an editor that can do nice 2D projections. 12:24:41 fizzie: I guess that would work, yes 12:24:46 for the code, you could have 4D code tape... but if you want to really explore that vector space, you'd need more operators for 4d navigation 12:25:22 f. ex. <> ^v in 2D (left-right, up-down), now add 4 more operators for th e other 2 dimensions 12:25:35 fizzie: would you say a parallel universe exists in the same dimensions as us, or in a different one? 12:26:02 it has nothing to do with time-space or universe or parallelity 12:26:04 I wouldn't really say anything about parallel universes, and they don't seem terribly relevant to multidimensional brainfucks. 12:26:31 dimension is a mathematical concept, showing the arity of a vector 12:28:14 fizzie: It seems interesting to make this brainfuck variant operate in K different universes as well 12:30:34 4 dimensions is not enough?? 12:30:41 why you want other universes? :) 12:30:56 scoofy: well the original idea was to have n dimensions 12:31:27 you could have 1024 dimensions if you want 12:31:30 and I want multiple universes because in a different universe the operations can be defined otherwisze 12:31:34 would require quite much RAM though 12:31:49 so there exists as many universes as there are permutations of the instruction set 12:32:08 scoofy: no I don't want a fixed size. Just n 12:32:21 char int data_tape[30000][30000][30000][30000]; 12:32:37 I suppose you would dynamically allocate storage as needed 12:33:33 actually for this to compile you'd need 17 exabyes or 17,000 petabytes or 17,000,000 terabytes or 17,000,000,000 gigabytes of RAM... 12:33:52 that's why you need to dynamically allocate 12:34:33 well that's an interesting problem space, once you start wandering off in 4d 12:34:57 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:35:11 or create a subset and limit it to, say tape[100][100][100][100] 12:35:26 that needs only 100 MB of RAM 12:35:58 or... you allocate as you need and use practically no RAM until someoene wants to 12:36:07 -!- augur has joined. 12:36:11 or write a little toy 4d brainfuck with tape size 64^4, that fits into 64 kbytes 12:36:36 well you need a pretty sophisticated memory manager for that, i guess.. 12:36:37 64^4 certainly doesn't fit in 64k. 12:36:43 i meant 16^ 12:36:46 16^4 12:36:51 which is 65536 12:37:06 scoofy: it's called std::vector ;) 12:37:12 good enough for a toy 4d brainfuck :) 12:37:20 Hashmaps are the "standard" implementation strategy for Funge-98 implementations. 12:37:30 anyway 12:37:47 Those, of course, don't really care about the dimensionality of the keys. 12:37:48 the implementation strategy doesn't seem to be the most important aspect of the problem here 12:37:51 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:38:14 I don't know if a N-dimensional brainfuck has so many terribly important aspects. 12:38:15 i guess it's important, since you can 'wander off' anywhere in 4d 12:39:12 fizzie: true, it needs to be made more complex 12:39:31 -!- Roujo has set topic: The welcomes of doom | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric | fizzie: true, it needs to be made more complex. 12:39:46 `relcome complexity 12:39:48 ​complexity: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! 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(For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 12:39:50 `? complexity 12:39:51 complexity? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 12:39:52 | 12:39:52 o/`¯º 12:39:55 ~duck complexity 12:40:02 samantus: Is it complex enough? 12:40:02 AnotherTest: Complex enough 12:40:10 samantus: please say something cool for once 12:40:10 AnotherTest: Cool for once 12:40:10 %echo Complexity! 12:40:11 Complexity! 12:40:16 @wn complexity 12:40:18 samantus: aah 12:40:18 AnotherTest: Hub firefox 12:40:19 *** "complexity" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" 12:40:19 complexity 12:40:19 n 1: the quality of being intricate and compounded; "he enjoyed 12:40:19 the complexity of modern computers" [syn: {complexity}, 12:40:19 {complexness}] [ant: {simpleness}, {simplicity}] 12:40:20 (Nice quotation there.) 12:40:36 Nice, nice 12:41:08 There are quite a few people who enjoy the simplicity of non-modern computers; I guess there have to be some folks that do the opposite. 12:41:09 I think samantus' "use the words from the input"-strategy isn't that good after all. 12:41:09 AnotherTest: That good after all 12:41:27 probably i'd first start off with a 16^4 toy 4d brainfuck to work out the basics, and deal with the dynamic allocaion later 12:41:44 samantus: Hi 12:41:44 AnotherTest: Set providing 12:41:47 pff 12:41:59 samantus: Tell me a joke 12:41:59 AnotherTest: A joke 12:42:05 samantus: tell me something 12:42:05 AnotherTest: Me something i didnt ask you i told you do i dont see parse error possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched 12:42:52 samantus: did you actually learn from your own parse errors. that seems unlikely/impossible 12:42:53 AnotherTest: Your own parse errors that seems 12:43:08 it's hopeless :( 12:43:10 I think it's lambdabot's 12:43:14 > rofl 12:43:15 Not in scope: `rofl' 12:43:16 oh probably 12:43:22 > ehco 12:43:23 Not in scope: `ehco' 12:43:24 ]] whois "Roujo"; 12:43:24 > Roujo is a VERY annoying person/bot (this does not apply to boily/AnotherTest) 12:43:24 >echo 12:43:25 Not in scope: data constructor `Roujo'Not in scope: `is' 12:43:26 Perhaps you meant... 12:43:38 Well that's nice 12:43:57 samantus: that wasn't very nice 12:43:57 AnotherTest: That wasnt very nice 12:44:04 samantus 12:44:04 AnotherTest: Of i 12:44:07 samantus 12:44:07 AnotherTest: Of 100 12:44:10 samantus 12:44:10 AnotherTest: Debian cell 12:44:12 samantus 12:44:12 AnotherTest: 12:44:12 multiples 12:44:15 pff 12:44:26 it doesn't seem to generate long chains 12:44:33 ]] whois "AnotherTest"; 12:44:33 > AnotherTest is a VERY annoying person/bot (this does not apply to boily/AnotherTest) 12:44:34 Not in scope: data constructor `AnotherTest'Not in scope: `is' 12:44:35 Perhaps you... 12:44:48 ]] whois "samantus"; 12:44:49 Roujo: Whois samantus 12:44:49 > samantus is a VERY annoying person/bot (this does not apply to boily/AnotherTest) 12:44:50 Not in scope: `samantus'Not in scope: `is' 12:44:50 Perhaps you meant one of these:... 12:44:50 lambdabot: Not in 12:44:52 Lol 12:46:25 ]] up whois "Roujo"; 12:46:45 oh right it was uc 12:46:48 ]] uc whois "Roujo"; 12:46:49 > ROUJO IS A VERY ANNOYING PERSON/BOT (THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO BOILY/ANOTHERTEST) 12:46:50 Not in scope: data constructor `ROUJO'Not in scope: data constructor `IS' 12:46:50 ... 12:46:50 take that 12:47:31 ]] pow 2 1123456 12:47:35 ]] pow 2 1123456; 12:48:46 ]] pow pow 12:49:44 Roujo: ok so the language's syntax is kind of like this: call (call or arg) 12:50:15 and don't forget the semicolon 12:50:25 eg. 12:50:28 ]] call (call or arg) 12:50:31 ]] mul 5 5; 12:50:36 [08:50:29] Oops, seems like something went wrong... 12:50:36 Roujo: Something went wrong 12:50:37 ok um 12:50:41 ^^ 12:50:53 ]] pow 2 2 12:51:05 Something went wrong again 12:51:08 ]] add "a" "b"; 12:51:08 > ab 12:51:08 ]] pow 2 22 12:51:09 Not in scope: `ab' 12:51:09 Perhaps you meant one of these: 12:51:09 `a' (imported from D... 12:51:13 Yeah the semicolon 12:51:23 ]] pow 2 22; 12:51:25 but you have to convert the int result to a printable string 12:51:28 using "id" 12:51:30 so 12:51:37 ]] id pow 2 22; 12:51:40 ]] id pow 2 22; 12:51:45 Nope =P 12:51:53 ]] id ( pow 2 22 ); 12:51:56 -!- boily has joined. 12:52:01 no, parentheses are ignored 12:52:04 'sup, boily, frère de boily? 12:52:07 ]] id mul 5 5; 12:52:10 hm 12:52:12 good parenthetic morning! 12:52:16 ok don't use numbers they don't work 12:52:29 ]] mul "Hi boily. " 10 12:52:31 ]] id pow "2" "22" 12:52:31 ]] mul "Hi boily. " 10; 12:52:31 > Hi boily. Hi boily. Hi boily. Hi boily. Hi boily. Hi boily. Hi boily. Hi boily. Hi boily. Hi boily. 12:52:32 :1:100: 12:52:32 parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatche... 12:52:43 Roujo: I sushied yesterday. how's life for you, friend of boily, brother of boily? 12:52:53 I also sushied. T'was nice. 12:53:03 ]] add "" mul 5 5; 12:53:10 ]] mul "boilyBoily" 255 12:53:11 ]] add 5 5; 12:53:25 ]] mul "boilyBoily" 255; 12:53:25 > boilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBo 12:53:25 ilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyB 12:53:25 oilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboily 12:53:25 BoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboil 12:53:25 yBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboi 12:53:25 lyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilybo 12:53:26 ilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoily 12:53:29 Not in scope: 12:53:29 `boilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBo... 12:53:30 hi 12:53:30 Welp 12:53:30 YOWCH. 12:53:35 yeah 12:53:44 don't do that too much 12:53:44 -!- metasepia has joined. 12:53:51 Some sort of line length limit could be worth investigation. 12:53:52 boily: Apparently, you're not in scope 12:53:53 some people might get mad 12:54:00 Sorry about that 12:54:02 fizzie: there is a line length limit 12:54:08 I can't get mad, I'm not in scope. 12:54:09 it's just incredibly large 12:54:32 ]] mul add "." ";" 5 12:54:37 ]] mul add "." ";" 5; 12:54:37 > .;.;.;.;.; 12:54:38 :1:1: parse error on input `.' 12:55:11 ]] mul add mul "." 6 ";" 5; 12:55:11 > ......;......;......;......;......; 12:55:12 :1:1: parse error on input `......' 12:55:20 ]] mul add mul "." 6 \";" 5; 12:55:52 fizzie: I will lower it. What do you suggest? 12:56:19 5 12:56:35 ]] let hi $x = add "hello " $x; 12:56:48 ]] hi "roujo"; 12:56:49 > hello roujo 12:56:50 Not in scope: `hello'Not in scope: `roujo' 12:56:57 > set roujo = 3 12:56:57 :1:11: parse error on input `=' 12:57:03 > set roujo 3 12:57:04 Not in scope: `roujo' 12:57:08 > scope roujo 12:57:10 Not in scope: `scope'Not in scope: `roujo' 12:57:13 Well crap 12:57:19 > roujo = 3 12:57:26 > scope roujo 12:57:37 > let roujo = 3 in roujo * 2 12:57:48 > let me go 12:58:00 ok lambdabot broke 12:58:25 ]] let roujo = "roujo"; 12:58:28 :1:7: parse error on input `=' 12:58:28 Not in scope: `scope'Not in scope: `roujo' 12:58:28 6 12:58:28 :1:10: 12:58:28 parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched... 12:58:33 ]] hello rojo; 12:58:38 ]] hello roujo; 12:58:38 > let roujo = 3 12:58:39 AnotherTest: I don't know, but possibly something like one or three IRC messages. 12:58:44 not an expression: `let roujo = 3' 12:58:54 > let roujo = 3 in roujo = 3 12:58:55 :1:24: parse error on input `=' 12:58:58 > let roujo = 3 in roujo == 3 12:58:59 True 12:59:07 > let roujo = 3 in global 12:59:20 Not in scope: `global' 12:59:20 Perhaps you meant `local' (imported from Control.Mo... 12:59:25 > let roujo = 3 in local 12:59:27 No instance for (Control.Monad.Reader.Class.MonadReader r0 m0) 12:59:27 arising f... 12:59:29 Welp 13:00:05 fizzie: what's the maximum lent of a message? 13:00:08 *length 13:00:40 AnotherTest: 512 bytes, but you have to factor in protocol things. 13:00:57 The :nick!user@host prefix, the PRIVMSG, the #esoteric, the :, and the crlf at the end. 13:01:15 On freenode, thanks to cloaks, the first one is pretty hard to predict. 13:01:30 -!- samantus has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:01:53 -!- samantus has joined. 13:02:04 ]] mul "fizzie" 500 13:02:05 ~duck cloak 13:02:05 cloak definition: a loose outer garment. 13:02:07 ]] mul "fizzie" 500; 13:02:07 > fizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizzief 13:02:07 izziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizz 13:02:07 iefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizzief 13:02:07 izziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizz 13:02:07 iefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizzief 13:02:07 izziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizz 13:02:07 iefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizzie 13:02:10 Not in scope: 13:02:10 `fizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefiz... 13:02:15 ok it doesn't work 13:02:31 ]] mul "fizzie" 50000; 13:02:57 ]] mul "| " add "5" "0" 13:03:01 ]] mul "| " add "5" "0"; 13:03:08 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 13:03:09 Also, GG 13:03:25 samantus: do you still live 13:03:28 * Roujo puts up a few sacks of sand to prepare for the flood 13:03:35 You should stack them about yea high 13:03:51 it's having trouble duplicating "fizzie" 50000 times 13:04:13 Surely, freenode has a flood limit? 13:04:15 That's certainly understandable. I shudder to think of a gaggle of 50000 of me. 13:04:26 world war fizzie. 13:04:33 Roujo: yes, I suppose it will get disconnected 13:04:37 let's see 13:04:51 it is however taking suspiciously long 13:05:06 Yes, I'm not *that* big to process. 13:05:50 fizzie: 300000 bytes is a lot 13:05:50 -!- glogbackup has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:06:04 Not in this day and age. 13:06:14 -!- samantus has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 13:06:23 it will autorejoin 13:06:24 Here lies samantus 13:06:45 however it has still not finished so I will kill it 13:06:53 killall samantus 13:07:16 s/samantus//g 13:08:14 `quote end to all 13:08:15 439) fizzie: i, myself, will bring an end to all. 13:08:37 I feel obliged to rewrite it in N-dimensional brainfuck now 13:09:03 but on the other hand... that doesn't sound very appealin 13:09:07 *appealing 13:09:10 why not? 13:09:16 You know who else isn't appealing? 13:09:17 doesn't it exists already? 13:09:27 OJ Simpson 13:09:50 scoofy: I don't really enjoy writing brainfuck 13:09:52 I wonder why nobody ever marketer Simpsons' OJ yet. 13:10:00 s/ter/ted/ 13:10:11 Hmmmmm... Can you actually appeal a decision in your favor? 13:10:33 scoofy: but if you want to suggest another language, go ahead 13:10:49 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 13:11:40 I'd like to see a Glass bot. In fact, I might have started one already, but it got abandoned. 13:12:10 interesting 13:12:11 still better to write than programming in writing malbolge 13:12:23 I haven't written any glass yet 13:12:25 ~duck malbolge 13:12:25 Malbolge is a public domain esoteric programming language invented by Ben Olmstead in 1998, named after the eighth circle of hell in Dante's Inferno, the Malebolge. 13:12:36 * boily is pleasantly surprised 13:13:04 did Mr. Olmstead ever join this channel? 13:14:39 ~duck brainfuck 13:14:40 The brainfuck programming language is an esoteric programming language noted for its extreme minimalism. 13:14:45 ~duck Olmstead 13:14:45 Matt Olmstead, an American writer and producer for television shows. 13:14:52 Close enough 13:14:58 ~duck duck 13:14:58 duck definition: any of various swimming birds (family Anatidae, the duck family) in which the neck and legs are short, the feet typically webbed, the bill often broad and flat, and the sexes usually different from each other in plumage. 13:15:03 olmsteads are fongible. 13:15:10 fungible? 13:15:17 dingibla? 13:15:24 ~duck fongible 13:15:24 --- No relevant information 13:15:28 ~duck fungible 13:15:28 Fungibility is the property of a good or a commodity whose individual units are capable of mutual substitution, such as sweet crude oil, shares in a company, bonds, precious metals, or currencies. 13:15:32 s/o/u/ 13:15:39 s/o/u/g 13:15:48 ...................Ruuju........... 13:15:56 s/u/u/g 13:15:59 Well shit 13:17:25 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 13:19:36 -!- asie has joined. 13:19:46 i don't clearly remember if olmstead's been here, it must have been long ago. fizzie should know. 13:20:55 I don't clearly remember that happening, but that's not really conclusive proof. 13:22:02 `elderlist 13:22:03 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: elderlist: not found 13:26:32 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 13:27:32 -!- augur has joined. 13:30:03 -!- nucular has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 13:47:41 -!- nucular has joined. 13:50:31 -!- Taneb has joined. 13:51:26 Tanello. careful of the fizzies, there are rather plenty of them today. 13:55:23 Hi 13:55:37 Did you know that elliott has a fruit and veg shop in Wideopen? 13:56:00 ~duck wideopen 13:56:01 Wideopen is a village located in the administrative Borough of North Tyneside, north of Gosforth and six miles from Newcastle upon Tyne city centre. 13:56:45 everything is somewhat related to hexham... 13:57:40 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 13:57:45 elliott: you're a fruitmonger now? 13:58:17 -!- copumpkin has joined. 13:59:01 you should see him mong those fruit 14:00:05 `? elliott 14:00:06 elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? He is also tire. And a lystrosaur. 14:00:30 I thing the mong mong mong goes in the probably other things. 14:00:34 s/thing /think / 14:00:40 `quote lystrosaur 14:00:41 No output. 14:00:52 ~duck lystrosaur 14:00:52 Lystrosaurus ("shovel lizard") is a genus of Late Permian and Early Triassic Period dicynodont therapsids, which lived around 250 million years ago in what is now Antarctica, India, and South Africa. 14:03:27 `run echo >wisdom/lystrosaur "The lystrosaurs were an ancient genus of evil reptiles who successfully took over the world in the early Triassic." 14:03:30 No output. 14:04:23 -!- asie has joined. 14:11:43 ~duck 鶏 14:11:43 --- No relevant information 14:12:13 I should add W|A infos to ~duck. 14:14:36 If that means making W|A queries, it'd be incredibly illegal, they'd throw you in jail. 14:14:56 Haven't you heard it's a federal crime to go against terms of service these days? 14:15:46 ("The Wolfram|Alpha service may be used only by a human being using a conventional web browser to manually enter queries one at a time.") 14:16:05 I'm not the one querying, I use ddg as a broker. granted, with the kind of subpœnas you get these days it'll probably get lumped together with everything else, but hey, I like living dangerously. 14:16:24 Note that you're not even allowed to use it if your browser is something less mainstream. 14:16:28 (and promoting the independance and freedom of marine animals too) 14:16:36 eh? 14:16:39 wut? 14:17:12 you're telling me ddg has a special license and/or agreement with W|A for them to display infos in an encart? 14:17:21 Yes. 14:17:30 "Today, in conjunction with DuckDuckGo, we are happy to share that Wolfram|Alpha and DuckDuckGo have entered a new phase of our relationship as official partners. As a result of this partnership, DuckDuckGo will expand Wolfram|Alpha integration into its search site --" 14:17:51 oh. 14:18:14 bummer. 14:18:33 Though they do have that official API these days too. 14:18:44 I'm not sure how that works with their regular terms of service. 14:19:12 (It allows for 2000 "non-commercial" W|A queries per month before you have to pay.) 14:19:58 well, considering W|A has a slimy jelly at its head, I think I'm going to play it safe, even tho I'd really like to have the extra info source clumped into metasepia. 14:20:10 I mean, instant 漢字 lookup! 14:21:44 `? liopleurodon 14:21:46 liopleurodon? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 14:21:46 | 14:21:46 º¯`\o 14:22:40 why do everything nowadays need to be embroiled in an Universal Meandering Legal Quagmire of Unhelpfulness? 14:30:01 i like how ddg are teaming up with W|A 14:30:21 "i'm sure wolfram cares about user privacy and search integrity and all that stuff" 14:30:42 Phantom_Hoover: careful about what you say here. maybe they're logging the chännel! 14:31:00 you've gone trema mad 14:31:11 are they there to throw off wolfram 14:31:50 yüp. 14:32:38 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 14:34:38 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 14:35:17 -!- asie has joined. 14:36:21 * boily goes on a quest to find an unicode stacked double diæresis. 14:40:41 not quite what I had in mind, but I think U+20DC does the job: a⃜. 14:41:19 the Dotpocalypse shall Commence! MWAH AH AH AH AH! 14:41:56 oh god 14:45:20 as previously stated, no, I am still not insane. 14:45:29 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 14:45:36 so nale dead 14:46:32 boily: That didn't show up correctly to me 14:46:36 Welp 14:46:38 ~duck nale 14:46:38 --- No relevant information 14:47:14 boily: Order of the stick antagonist 14:47:14 Roujo: what do you use as an IRC client? do you have plenty of not-quite-useless-unicode-fonts installed? are your chakras balanced? 14:47:24 doesthiswork: people die in oots? 14:47:31 * oerjan swats doesthiswork for spoiling -----### 14:47:51 I use KVIrc, I just use Courrier New, and I think so, yeah 14:48:09 boily: um, rather frequently... 14:49:24 oerjan: Haven't you had ten hours to read it? 14:49:56 Roujo: interesting client, you should enhance your fonts, and just to be sure maybe a consultation with an ayurvedic expert may be helpful. 14:50:12 doesthiswork: oh i've read it, i'm swatting you on principle, and ten hours is far too little, some people catch up in batches. 14:50:49 oerjan: did you experience catharsis with that swat? 14:50:50 I read a recent study that found that spoilers increased people's enjoyment of a work 14:51:13 doesthiswork: don't give me the details of that study! I want to read it without knowing its punchlines. 14:51:14 boily: I like it, which one do you suggest, that's alright, I can do it myself if need be 14:51:50 i read a recent study (this is a lie) that people who use science to contradict other people's feelings have low life expectancy. 14:52:02 Roujo: I'm a weechat fanatic as are some of my coworkers, think of the unicode children!, you studied the ayurveda? 14:54:30 they're developing a web-based client to weechat that uses websockets. the project is still pretty much pre-alpha, but there is youtube integration! 14:54:33 boily: I like KVIrc's nick color feature, does weechat have that; is that the font's name; nah, but I do have a formation in Reiki so close enough? 14:54:48 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 14:55:36 Roujo: colourisation is wholly customisable, no font name yet but “unicode children” sounds good, I think reiki is good. 14:56:05 also i have a firm prejudice that all psychological studies have glaringly obvious holes that make them not apply to my situation hth (and i haven't read any of them either) 14:56:35 this also applies to nutrition studies. 14:56:38 boily: Yes, but it it deterministic; I tried to install Droid Mono, but it didn't work for some reason; you know about Reiki? 14:56:59 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 14:57:09 I have friends who are studying / studied psychology. their average opinion is: stuff happens when stuff happens, and correlating stuff together is a very naïve way of doing things. 14:58:03 boily: thanks, that is precisely the kind of anecdotical evidence i'm collecting to bolster my prejudice tdh 14:58:11 I have a friend who is psychology, but we don't talk to him anymore 14:58:34 *anecdotal 14:58:34 Roujo: it stays the same across sessions as it is based on a deterministic algorithm of nicks' hashes, I'm on good ol' Terminus but my system complements it with what it can find, only slightly but I'm more knowledgeable with reflexology. 14:58:57 oerjan: glad to have elicited an honourable tdh from you twh. 14:59:35 btw, what's a tdh? 14:59:37 `? tdh 14:59:39 tdh? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 14:59:39 | 14:59:39 º¯`\o 14:59:49 boily: That's nice, I'll have to try that; That's nice, I'll have to try that; That's nice, I'll have to try that. 15:00:38 ah, at last a fanin! juggling three subjects at the same time without arrow notation is exhausting. 15:00:47 boily: that did help 15:01:04 `thanks ørjan 15:01:05 Thanks, ørjan. Than. 15:01:33 i sense a bug in the vowel recognition there 15:01:45 `learn tdh is the past tense of a successful hth. hth. 15:01:49 I knew that. 15:02:02 `learn `? is `? is `? 15:02:05 I knew that. 15:02:20 didn't we have an entry with further details for `?? 15:02:25 `? `?? 15:02:27 ​`??? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 15:02:27 | 15:02:27 º¯`\o 15:02:31 Heh 15:02:42 `? 15:02:43 ​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 15:02:44 | 15:02:44 º¯`\o 15:02:48 `? `? `? 15:02:50 ​`? `?? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 15:02:50 | 15:02:51 o/`¯º 15:02:52 `? `? 15:02:54 ​`? is `? is `? 15:03:09 `learn `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 15:03:10 | 15:03:10 º¯`\o 15:03:13 I knew that. 15:03:17 `? `? 15:03:19 ​`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 15:03:19 | 15:03:19 o/`¯º 15:03:24 ¯\(°_o)/¯ 15:03:25 | 15:03:25 o/`¯º 15:03:29 THAT'S AWESOME 15:04:37 `? `? `? 15:04:39 ​`? `?? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 15:04:39 | 15:04:39 o/`¯º 15:05:06 hmm 15:05:07 Roujo: there's this place in Chinatown which has nice massages for somewhat reasonable prices. 15:05:24 "somewhat" 15:05:24 =P 15:06:49 o_o 15:07:01 now what 15:07:07 you can expect to pay ~10$ more per session this year compared to last, but it remains affordable and enjoyable. 15:07:26 oerjan: hands on discussions :D 15:07:26 maybe myndzi is throttling 15:07:49 * boily unsticks myndzi with a liberal amount of WD-40 15:07:57 ^celebrate 15:07:58 \o| |o| |o/ \m/ \m/ |o/ \o/ \o| \m/ \m/ \o| |o| |o/ 15:07:58 | | | `\o/´ | | | `\o/´ | | | 15:07:58 |\ |\ |\ | |\ >\ /< | |\ /< |\ 15:07:59 (_|¯´\ /´\ 15:07:59 |_) (_| |_) 15:08:23 `? hmph 15:08:24 hmph? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 15:08:24 | 15:08:25 o/`¯º 15:08:29 this brings joy to my heart. thanks fizzie, thanks whoever created myndzi. 15:09:02 i'm wondering why myndzi always chooses that shape for the `? one 15:09:11 ¯\(°_o)/¯ 15:09:11 | 15:09:11 º¯`\o 15:09:20 -!- nooodl has joined. 15:09:28 oh hm 15:09:40 it's a different basic head 15:09:57 °_o 15:09:58 | 15:09:58 o/`¯º 15:11:14 @tell myndzi the \m/ \m/ body is misaligned hth 15:11:14 Consider it noted. 15:11:14 `\o/´ 15:11:14 | 15:11:14 /´¯|_) 15:11:14 (_| 15:11:51 boily: btw myndzi isn't a bot hth 15:21:49 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: Koen_). 15:23:13 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 15:26:34 oerjan: you sure? 15:26:52 quite sure 15:26:53 myndzi: on which side of the M/M divide are you? 15:27:02 (Meatbag / Metal divide) 15:27:31 -!- nucular has left ("KTHXBYE"). 15:28:25 oerjan: I still lean towards a ferro-cupric myndzi composition. 15:29:02 i never said he wasn't idling 15:29:58 * boily whips out his pokacular machine, orients it towards myndzi, and powers it on the HI setting 15:31:49 that is not a word although http://www.google.no/search?q=pogacalar&biw=1149&bih=641&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Kt0UUviUMuWJ7AaWiYCoCA&ved=0CC0QsAQ 15:32:48 boily, myndzi is a cyborg 15:32:50 foiled by norwegian pastries again. 15:33:02 boily: i think they're turkish, actually 15:33:02 * boily throws a fternooner at oerjan 15:33:03 by which i mean a human who also has a bot attached to his nick 15:33:20 Phantom__Hoover: please remove your excess underscore 15:33:26 need to use my /query 15:33:35 -!- Phantom__Hoover has changed nick to Phantom_Hoover. 15:33:44 Phantom_Hoover: stop applying logical razors. hth. 15:34:41 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poga%C4%8Da 15:34:47 -!- Gregor has joined. 15:35:23 I suddenly feel hungrier... 15:37:28 *MWAHAHAHA* 15:38:57 -!- asie has joined. 15:40:52 -!- yorick has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:58:16 -!- yorick has joined. 16:02:19 -!- zzo38 has joined. 16:03:12 well i am somewhat of a metalhead :V 16:03:30 i'm super sad my pretty clean code for that stick figure dude got trashed, it's just depressing to hack it into shape :( 16:03:40 .. \m/ \m/ 16:03:45 lolwut 16:04:35 oh no 16:05:31 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 16:06:27 \m/ \m/ 16:06:32 ............ \m/ \m/ 16:06:34 No? 16:06:37 yeah, i have no idea 16:06:39 it's super weird 16:06:42 `? myndzi 16:06:44 myndzi keeps us all on our feet 16:06:48 Right 16:06:50 HA 16:06:51 `? `? 16:06:52 ​`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 16:06:53 | 16:06:53 o/`¯º 16:07:00 Ah, here it is 16:07:03 i saw 16:07:04 Off-by-one, but eh 16:07:17 it hasn't been right since i went to mirc 7 16:07:27 unicode differences and such 16:07:28 Awww =/ 16:07:45 i mean, i fixed a lot of it but i wrote that shit years ago and it's ugly as hell 16:07:56 i rewrote it all nice and my hard drive crashed D: 16:08:27 -!- yorick has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:08:40 !wumpus 16:09:51 -!- yorick has joined. 16:10:59 The wumpus eats you. The end. 16:11:09 -!- asie has joined. 16:11:15 i have a script for it :) 16:11:18 -!- conehead has joined. 16:11:22 was just seeing that it responded 16:11:58 apparently the dcc server part is broke too, god dammit 16:12:06 i should just roll back to mirc 6 and be done with it :P 16:12:15 i don't even do this shit anymore 16:12:44 oh 16:12:47 i'm doing it wrong :P 16:13:09 woot. 16:14:21 !wumpus 16:14:30 Oh god, DCC 16:14:38 it's got too much text to play over irc 16:14:45 Nice 16:14:46 it's also multiplayer :D 16:14:51 Does it work atm? =D 16:14:55 i believe so 16:15:20 you can also telnet or dccserver chat it, though i think the ports probably don't forward atm 16:15:40 and i should rehost the maps 16:15:51 i've found it to be a lot of fun 16:17:34 why the hell doesn't one of the simplest clauses in the regex match :| 16:18:45 HA 16:18:47 oh geez 16:18:55 i put a . at the end of it 16:19:03 so it needed a character on the right side (shouldn't) 16:19:09 symmetry, my mortal enemy! 16:19:14 . \m/ \m/ 16:19:22 well, it triggered anyway 16:19:28 now wtf 16:19:40 oh yeah 16:19:42 there's two regexes :P 16:22:54 -!- yorick has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:23:11 myndzi, are you going to make it properly justified 16:23:15 . \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ 16:23:15 `\o/´ `\o/´ `\o/´ `\o/´ `\o/´ `\o/´ `\o/´ `\o/´ `\o/´ 16:23:16 | | | | | | | | | 16:23:17 (_|¯´\ /`\ /`¯|_) /`\ (_|¯`¯|_) /'\ (_|¯´\ /'\ /'¯|_) 16:23:17 |_) (_| |_) (_| (_| |_) (_| |_) |_) (_| |_) (_| 16:23:19 \o/ 16:23:19 | 16:23:19 >\ 16:23:27 what do you mean? 16:23:42 `? 16:23:43 ​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 16:23:44 | 16:23:44 o/`¯º 16:23:44 justify it by the nick-message separator, not by the start of the nick 16:23:56 how should i know what your nick-message separator is? 16:24:10 and how can i output text that conforms to everybody's different display settings? 16:24:20 answer that and i'll think about it :) 16:24:40 `? 16:24:42 ​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 16:24:42 | 16:24:43 º¯`\o 16:24:59 \o/ ¯\(°_o)/¯ c.c \o\ \m/ \m/ /o/ 16:25:00 | | c.c.c | `\o/´ | 16:25:00 >\ º¯`\o c.c /< | |\ 16:25:00 /´\ 16:25:00 (_| |_) 16:25:12 thought it'd be something like that, let's see 16:25:39 c.c 16:25:40 c.c.c 16:25:40 c.c 16:25:46 -!- scoofy has quit. 16:26:05 fizzie: um why has fungot reverted to an ancient version of ^celebrate :( 16:26:06 -!- scoofy has joined. 16:26:06 oerjan: and the lines wrap" attribute there. you know. then they learned about functional languages.) yes. we discussed that. can you just change it to 16:26:35 ^prefixes 16:26:35 Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, jconn ) , blsqbot ! 16:26:48 ok that one's right 16:26:57 oerjan: I don't know :( 16:27:05 an ancient pagan celebration 16:27:41 `pastelogs def celebrate 16:28:13 `? 16:28:18 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.25501 16:28:19 ​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 16:28:19 | 16:28:19 º¯`\o 16:28:23 that's really weird 16:28:31 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 16:28:35 it lines up for me in my test channel 16:28:36 :o 16:28:45 maybe nick length discrepancy is factoring in somehow 16:29:07 ^def celebrate ul (\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/)S 16:29:07 Defined. 16:29:14 ^celebrate 16:29:14 \o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ 16:29:15 | c.c.c | ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´ | c.c.c ¦ `\o/´ ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c | 16:29:15 /< c.c /'\ /< | | |\ c.c ´¸¨ | /^\|/| c.c /< 16:29:16 (_|¯´¯|_) /´\ 16:29:16 (_| |_) 16:29:24 haha 16:29:24 -!- carado has joined. 16:29:32 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 16:29:35 some of those chars fuck up the monospacing :( 16:29:36 fizzie: plz ^save twh 16:30:31 myndzi: that looks fine in irssi. well except for that weird guy just right of the middle. 16:30:50 lol 16:30:54 yeah 16:31:09 some windows font is getting subbed in for the cane shape and something 16:31:32 ¯ 16:31:37 huh, that should be in this font 16:31:41 ^def def ul (hai)S 16:31:41 Defined. 16:31:51 ^def 16:31:51 hai 16:31:53 ^def def 16:31:53 Usage: ^def 16:31:59 wat 16:32:12 ^^ 16:32:20 wtf inconsolata 16:32:24 i'm inconsolable :( 16:32:37 ^def a brainfuck +. 16:32:37 Usage: ^def 16:32:41 ah there it is, just looks short and stunted 16:32:47 ^def a bf +. 16:32:47 Defined. 16:32:51 ^a 16:32:51 16:32:57 heh 16:33:24 ^def a bf +[.] 16:33:24 Defined. 16:33:26 `? 16:33:26 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 16:33:27 ​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 16:33:28 | 16:33:28 o/`¯º 16:33:31 ^a 16:33:31 ... 16:33:42 :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 16:33:43 | 16:33:43 o/`¯º 16:33:50 ^a 16:33:50 ... 16:33:55 That's a... nice CTCP request? 16:33:58 apparently hackego is sending a unicode ? of some kind o_O 16:34:10 Roujo: Very oerjany CTCP request. 16:34:24 ping 0 16:35:02 ^languages 16:35:05 I don't know if I want to save that "a". 16:35:47 ^def a bf +++++++++++++[.] 16:35:47 Defined. 16:35:50 ^a 16:35:50 ............................................................................................................................................................................................................... ... 16:36:04 those are supposed to be newlines 16:36:05 oerjan: The built-in ^def only fires if there's a space after the command (it checks for "^def "), so plain "^def" hits the def'd def. 16:36:16 AnotherTest: For obvious reasons they get filtered. 16:36:39 ^save 16:36:39 OK. 16:36:40 myndzi: oh hm HackEgo prepends a zero-width space for botloop prevention 16:36:51 -!- Emilie has quit (Quit: Later!). 16:37:05 ^def a bf [][[][]][[][ 16:37:05 Mismatched []. 16:37:08 oh :( 16:37:19 ^def a bf [+] 16:37:19 Defined. 16:37:23 ^a 16:37:31 ^def a bf [+-] 16:37:31 Defined. 16:37:34 ^a 16:37:37 `? macaroni 16:37:39 macaroni? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 16:37:39 | 16:37:39 º¯`\o 16:37:43 ^def a bf [+-]. 16:37:44 Defined. 16:37:45 `? *** 16:37:46 ^a 16:37:47 ​***? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 16:37:47 | 16:37:47 º¯`\o 16:37:57 fungot :( 16:37:57 AnotherTest: when you try to use that 16:37:59 what is with all the bot spam the past few days? 16:38:00 oerjan: makes sense, script doesn't understand zero width spaces though 16:38:06 AnotherTest: [...] at the start of a program will never run. 16:38:15 ^def a bf .[+-]. 16:38:15 Defined. 16:38:16 oh ok 16:38:18 ^a 16:38:19 it assumes a unicode character is 1 block wide in monospace font 16:38:26 ^a 16:38:27 i should be able to filter it out 16:38:28 do it fungot 16:38:29 AnotherTest: http://xs128.xs.to/ xs128/ 08266/ picture5214.png the circularity is definitely there restricted to what i like so much fun 16:38:30 elliott: myndzi is fixing his script 16:38:33 FEFF right? 16:38:52 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 16:38:57 AnotherTest: Having a . in front of the [] will not make it run either. A ".[+-]." is equivalent to "..". 16:39:04 fizzie: what are the suport languages 16:39:10 which is your favorite esolang? 16:39:12 *supported 16:39:13 AnotherTest: Just brainfuck and Underload. 16:39:15 ^help 16:39:15 ^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool 16:39:28 `? 16:39:29 ^show whatisthis 16:39:30 ​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 16:39:31 | 16:39:31 º¯`\o 16:39:34 `ord > ​* 16:39:35 62 32 8203 42 16:39:36 oerjan: well ok. but I meant before that too. 16:39:50 ^bool 16:39:50 No. 16:39:51 -!- asie has joined. 16:39:52 ^bool 16:39:52 Yes. 16:39:53 i'm spamming mostly to myself but i don't know quite how to reproduce the above output 16:39:54 :P 16:39:59 AnotherTest: It shows a command. 16:40:00 ^show 16:40:00 echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list ping def a 16:40:00 > showHex 8203 "" 16:40:01 it doesn't appear to be a zero width space 16:40:02 "200b" 16:40:05 ^show wc 16:40:05 [] 16:40:09 ^show cho 16:40:10 >,[>,]<[<]>[[.>]<[<]>[-]>] 16:40:11 myndzi: 200B actually 16:40:18 (What's that wc for?) 16:40:19 ^wiki hm 16:40:19 http://esolangs.org/wiki/hm 16:40:27 ^rainbow a 16:40:27 a 16:40:31 ^rainbow 16:40:34 -!- Emilie has joined. 16:40:35 lol 16:40:35 ^rainbow something 16:40:35 something 16:40:39 feff is zero-width non-breaking 16:40:43 why the hell 16:40:49 ^def something as something 16:40:49 Usage: ^def 16:41:00 ^rainbow This is actually nice. It reminds me of `relcome, which is not so nice after all. 16:41:00 This is actually nice. It reminds me of `relcome, w ... 16:41:12 ^hw mh 16:41:13 Hello World! 16:41:23 ^pow2 123456789 16:41:24 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024 2048 4096 8192 16384 32768 65536 131072 262144 524288 1048576 2097152 4194304 8388608 16777216 33554432 67108864 134217728 268435456 536870912 1073741824 2147483648 42949672 ... 16:41:30 ^relcome ~echo ^rainbow 16:41:34 ^pow2 -1 16:41:34 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024 2048 4096 8192 16384 32768 65536 131072 262144 524288 1048576 2097152 4194304 8388608 16777216 33554432 67108864 134217728 268435456 536870912 1073741824 2147483648 42949672 ... 16:41:41 It doesn't take any input. 16:41:54 ^elikoski 16:41:55 eliott elliot eliott eliott elliot elliott eliot elliot eliott elliot elliot eliott eliott elliot eliott eliot elliot elliott eliott elliot eliott eliott elliot elliot eliott eliot elliott eliott elliot eliott eliott elliot elliott eliot elliot eliott eliott elliot elliot eliott elliot elliott eliot elliot elliott eliott e ...too much output! 16:41:59 oh no 16:42:03 what did I do 16:42:06 `relcome ~echo rainbow 16:42:08 ​~echo: rainbow: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 16:42:09 perchance can someone verify this supposed zero width space? mirc debug output is showing â? which isn't right 16:42:18 Awww, the : messes it up =P 16:42:36 oh, ignore me 16:42:41 what nonsense 16:42:42 ^rainbow `relcome Test... 16:42:42 `relcome Test... 16:42:52 how can it display ascii bytes AND unicode :| 16:43:06 ^echo `relcome Test... 16:43:06 `relcome Test... `relcome Test... 16:43:09 ​Test...: `relcome: Test...: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 16:43:43 myndzi: My logs say the raw bytes are e2 80 8b which is the correct UTF-8 of U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE, as far as I can tell. 16:43:59 yeah, improper assumption on my part 16:44:30 or some sort of mangling because it looks like i'm getting 3882 16:44:31 lol 16:45:12 multiple levels of mangling even, can't trust clipboard or debug output either :( 16:45:34 ^echo ^echo hi 16:45:34 ^echo hi ^echo hi 16:45:45 too bad, it ignores itself 16:45:51 fizzie: admit that was a nice try 16:45:59 it doesn't ignore itself. 16:46:00 btw, i imagine any client that supports ZWS also supports chr(15) 16:46:03 that's just not how the IRC protocol works 16:46:10 which is an easier bot-loop protector imo 16:46:24 elliott: so i tdoes ignore itself 16:46:27 no 16:46:28 (Btw, the IRC protocol works in a sucky way.) 16:46:31 the irc server never sends a message 16:46:36 that comes "from" the bot 16:46:37 to the bot 16:46:40 yes, so it gets ignored 16:46:43 ^echo %echo hi 16:46:43 %echo hi %echo hi 16:46:43 hi %echo hi 16:46:47 * myndzi facepalms 16:46:48 Crap 16:46:54 `echo hi 16:46:55 hi 16:46:57 ignore implies it was sent and nothing was done about it 16:47:01 “which is an easier bot-loop protector imo” How about just following the RFC hth 16:47:02 it wasn't sent at all 16:47:05 `echo ^echo `echo hi 16:47:06 ​^echo `echo hi 16:47:12 ion: The RFC is last millennium hth 16:47:13 ion: send all bot responses to the channel as notices? :P 16:47:16 `echo %echo ~echo ^echo Hai 16:47:17 ​%echo ~echo ^echo Hai 16:47:23 Right 16:47:24 oh right, fungot doesn't respond to hackego 16:47:24 AnotherTest: also what about newlib? aren't non-lambda rhs just normal " arguments" to be different. 16:47:28 That fucking character 16:47:37 Nobody responds to HackEgo 16:47:47 It follows that HackEgo must be a jerk 16:47:49 You should just follow the RFC 16:47:49 Roujo: time to make a bot that does 16:48:00 AnotherTest: Challenge accepted 16:48:03 also it should change names often so fizzie can't ignore it 16:48:07 And furthermore make your bot strip invisible characters when accepting commands 16:48:07 zzo38: What does the RFC say? 16:48:12 Oh 16:48:14 Sure 16:48:21 `? 16:48:23 ​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 16:48:24 | 16:48:24 o/`¯º 16:48:28 `? ~echo 16:48:30 ​~echo? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 16:48:30 | 16:48:30 o/`¯º 16:48:31 Right 16:48:34 heh raw binary output 16:48:40 Okay, I'll work on it 16:48:43 Stripping stuff 16:48:53 I'm sure Emily can strip if I try hard enough 16:48:53 i have so many crazy scripts 16:48:55 58 72 97 99 107 69 103 111 33 100 108 111 112 101 110 64 108 105 98 100 108 46 115 111 32 80 82 73 86 77 83 71 32 35 101 115 111 116 101 114 105 99 32 58 226 128 139 63 32 194 175 92 40 194 176 95 111 41 47 194 175 13 10 16:48:59 i think that's the line 16:49:42 226 128 139 is indeed e2 80 8b. 16:49:48 yup 16:50:00 this reminded me of another script i never loaded though 16:50:00 back from lunch! my absence spontaneified myndzi! 16:50:02 so i'm finding it :P 16:50:07 -!- AnotherTest has changed nick to FungotAnnoy. 16:50:08 Hi 16:50:16 -!- FungotAnnoy has changed nick to AnotherTest. 16:50:25 Ok I was hopping for some really bad programming 16:50:28 i don't even remember what it's called 16:50:30 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 16:50:41 I will write this bot 16:50:41 zzo38: What part of the RFC should I be following again? 16:50:46 AnotherTest: Even if it did look at the nick, it's case-sensitive about its name. 16:50:50 (in revenge of samamntus) 16:50:57 -!- AnotherTest has changed nick to fungot_annoy. 16:50:59 hi 16:51:04 (It doesn't look at the nick.) 16:51:05 -!- fungot_annoy has changed nick to AnotherTest. 16:51:06 ok 16:51:13 (It was just a hypothetical.) 16:51:24 fizzie: soon samantus shall be revenged 16:51:25 roujo: The RFC specifies PRIVMSG as the human message command and NOTICE as the bot message command. Bots are only allowed to trigger stuff from human messages and send stuff as bot messages. Therefore, no bot loops ever. As an additional bonus you can easily skip over the low-priority bot messages in a discussion when your IRC client e.g. colors them differently. Unfortunately, certain IRC clients default 16:51:27 to making a huge show about NOTICEs even though they are the low-priority messages, and not enough users bother to report it as a bug or even to change their configuration, but they do bother to make a huge noise about it on IRC whenever bots do the right thing. So we have ended up in a situation where many bots just use PRIVMSG and have nasty hacks that may or may not work to prevent bot loops. 16:51:28 Roujo: i presume he's referring to automated responses should be notices and requests that trigger them should be privmsg 16:51:49 ion: TL;DR hth 16:52:00 ion: And I suggest actually following the RFC instead 16:52:09 If your client is broken then you need to get a different client 16:52:10 ion: myndzi: zzo38: Nice, nice. Thanks. 16:52:28 myndzi: Yes 16:52:58 ion: ("many bots" is perhaps a bit of an understatement, it's probably really "most".) 16:53:33 btw, why was I unashamedly CTCPed? 16:53:45 also lol @ ion 16:53:54 It's fungot's fault 16:53:55 Roujo: i don't know if it's believable to have hayfever in march. 16:53:55 if the excessive botspam starts showing up in NOTICE colour I will be sorely tempted to /part. 16:53:58 sorta like people complaining about highlights but even less egregious 16:54:06 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 16:54:24 I ENABLED THIS FEATURE OF MY CLIENT/SCRIPT AND IT'S DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO, STOP USING IT 16:54:31 -!- Bike has joined. 16:55:33 myndzi: Wait what? 16:56:00 In terminals with ANSI colors, a good color for notices is the “bright black” a.k.a. dark gray. 16:56:23 At least if you have a dark background color. 16:56:31 Roujo: it is common in some groups of people on irc to complain about "over-using highlights" 16:56:42 which is a client feature that alerts the user when some matching text (usually their name) is sent 16:56:44 Rofl 16:56:45 Okay 16:56:57 I was wondering what you were referring to, that's all ^^ 16:57:04 STOP HIGHLIGHTING ME GUYS 16:57:06 ITS ANNOYING 16:57:08 If they don't want that they should change the configure of your client (or change your name, if that is the problem) 16:57:14 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 16:57:14 myndzi: But it's fuuuuuun 16:57:17 `ls wisdom 16:57:18 As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. 16:57:24 very lol, imo. 16:57:27 hmmm 16:57:29 asshole.mrc 16:57:31 i wonder what's in this one 16:57:38 Death 16:57:41 HAHAHA 16:57:44 i forgot 16:57:49 in #scripting on dalnet one time 16:58:02 dalnet??? worst network 16:58:03 i wrote this script that kicked anybody who didn't follow the instructions given in the topic 16:58:11 and if they repeated it banned them 16:58:19 `/bin/ls wisdom 16:58:20 ​` \ `? \ _̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ \ ? \ ?? \ @ \ ⊥ \ ⌨ \ ☃ \ 🐐 \ ̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚҉̕͜͠͠҉̡̧̛ 16:58:24 else kick $chan $nick Hey, maybe you can catch the topic on your way back in! 16:58:25 ah 16:58:29 I don't see any names. 16:58:52 zzo38: there are more lines. 16:58:53 zzo38: they've been shuffled out by all the weird unicode 16:58:54 myndzi: heh 16:58:59 `run /bin/ls wisdom | tail 16:59:00 welcome.bork \ welcome.es \ wercome \ west midlands \ wiki \ wisdom \ wisisis "This isn't an actual wisdom, just a tribute." \ you \ zomgmodules \ zzo38 16:59:08 look, it's you! 16:59:12 `? you 16:59:14 you a haskell 16:59:21 Bike: Yes, it doesn't matter 16:59:22 wow 16:59:31 `? wisisis 16:59:32 I can see "you" 16:59:33 wisisis? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 16:59:33 | 16:59:33 º¯`\o 16:59:42 `? wisisis "This isn't an actual wisdom, just a tribute." 16:59:43 wisisis "This isn't an actual wisdom, just a tribute."? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 16:59:44 | 16:59:44 o/`¯º 16:59:47 amazing. 17:00:02 `run /bin/ls wisdom | shuf 17:00:03 misspellings of croissant \ 🐐 \ bc \ cyberiad \ firefly \ context \ egobot \ northumberland \ thyme \ megalun \ phantom___hoover \ partial order \ d \ sgeo \ object \ maths \ ☃ \ résumé \ isomorphism \ devious \ hello \ inverness \ gazspacho \ itidus21 \ eurovision \ mojibake \ lettuce \ internationale \ everyone \ elliott \ bird \ nah \ cak 17:01:01 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 17:01:14 croissant! c'est juste des croissants! ÇA SE MISSPELLE PAS, UN CROISSANT! AAAAAAAAAAARRRRGH! 17:01:32 Sure! 17:01:36 croisant 17:01:37 ^ 17:01:39 `? misspellings of croissant 17:01:41 misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 17:01:41 | 17:01:41 º¯`\o 17:01:45 Rofl 17:01:47 THERE WE GO 17:01:53 * boily slaps Roujo with a French pastry 17:01:59 %slap boily 17:02:00 * Emilie slaps boily around with a large trout. 17:02:01 dear god, can we please leave the bots alone for one hour. 17:02:06 Sure =P 17:02:12 elliott: It’s #esoteric. What do you think? 17:02:20 ion: indeed :/ 17:02:27 finally found it 17:02:30 elliott: we will behave. I'm on a meeting for about the next hour, so no abuse from me. 17:02:33 58 72 97 99 107 69 17:02:54 suppose i have to load first 17:03:02 58 72 97 99 107 69 17:03:06 10:02.41 (myndzi; b10) :HackE 17:03:08 :D 17:03:13 automatic base conversion ftw 17:03:51 58 72 97 99 107 69 17:03:57 it's local display 17:03:59 Oh 17:04:02 Cool, cool 17:04:05 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 17:04:05 i can make a trigger i suppose :P 17:04:10 wait, i have one 17:04:10 lol 17:04:12 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Client Quit). 17:04:13 !debase 58 72 97 99 107 69 103 111 33 100 108 111 112 101 110 64 108 105 98 100 108 46 115 111 32 80 82 73 86 77 83 71 32 35 101 115 111 116 101 114 105 99 32 58 226 128 139 63 32 194 175 92 40 194 176 95 111 41 47 194 175 13 10 17:04:14 debase (base 10): :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 17:04:15 | 17:04:16 º¯`\o 17:04:32 it'll take any base from 2 to 36 17:04:36 delimited or padded 17:07:02 -!- Bike has joined. 17:08:19 final test? 17:08:20 `? 17:08:21 ​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 17:08:22 | 17:08:22 º¯`\o 17:08:27 cool 17:08:42 i'll deal with the other thing some other time (god knows why shit's misaligned above) 17:08:46 `? quiche 17:08:48 quiche? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 17:08:48 | 17:08:48 o/`¯º 17:19:40 -!- iamfishhead has joined. 17:19:47 Huh. 17:20:00 Somehow [19:15:48] misspellings of croissant \ 17:20:12 is highlighted as to have nickpinged me.. 17:20:34 * FireFly eyes weechat 17:22:13 FireFly: yes, it contains your nick later in the line 17:24:28 I guess I'm not getting the line rendered correctly then. Here's what I see: http://i.imgur.com/WMxSuhJ.png 17:25:24 FireFly: the next item is a unicode character, possibly the infamous goat 17:25:33 misspellings of croissant \ PROBABLY_A_GOAT \ bc \ cyberiad \ firefly \ context \ egobot \ northumberland \ thyme \ megalun \ phantom___hoover \ partial order \ d \ sgeo \ object \ maths \ ☃ \ résumé \ isomorphism \ devious \ hello \ inverness \ gazspacho \ itidus21 \ eurovision \ mojibake \ lettuce \ internationale \ everyone \ elliott \ bird \ nah \ cak 17:25:44 Oh 17:26:38 `? misspellings of croissant 17:26:40 misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 17:26:40 | 17:26:40 º¯`\o 17:26:46 well played. 17:27:07 `? cyberiad 17:27:09 The Cyberiad is not just a book. 17:27:20 `? gazspacho 17:27:21 gazspacho is a hungarian szoup, tradizsonally szerved cold for hot szummer dayz 17:30:29 Is there a C library for a MUD and which is cross-platform and FSF/OSI compatible? 17:31:05 i don't think any muds come in library form 17:31:18 but i do know that dead souls is the closest lpc thing to rom 17:31:24 and is under active development last i checked 17:31:35 dunno how cross platform it is but i believe it runs on windows too 17:31:37 (not sure if cygwin) 17:31:50 http://dead-souls.net/ 17:31:55 lol, it calls it a library right there 17:31:56 o well 17:32:17 also LPC is a hell of a lot cooler than anything ROM derivatives can offer 17:32:46 but i think what most people have in mind by 'MUD' is more ROM-style (hack and slash & grinding etc. not social/roleplaying) 17:32:55 which is why i'm glad dead souls exists :) 17:33:01 I mean one that does both really 17:33:13 a code base 17:33:15 And I intend to modify to penalize too much grinding 17:33:24 you should definitely check out DS 17:33:42 I mean one that does (hack and slash & grinding etc. *and* social/roleplaying) but that can be modified 17:33:45 the rooms and interactions are programmed in a mud-specific variant of C inside the game itself 17:33:50 right 17:34:05 the problem with rom is it's really hard to extend in dynamic ways 17:34:09 When searching I found a whole bunch of broken links mostly 17:34:22 it's about as complex as ms-dos batch in terms of scripting mob interactions and the like 17:34:33 lpc gives you a whole array of tools (like variables) 17:34:34 :P 17:34:47 it comes from MOO territory though, which is more .. esoteric? 17:34:58 most moos don't have any sort of setting/combat/leveling system 17:35:06 which is why lots of mud players stick to rom variants 17:35:28 -!- FungotDestroyer has joined. 17:35:55 -!- FungotDestroyer has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:36:17 also interesting is that dead souls hooks up to a sort of meta-mud chatline, so you can basically chat with the devs from your own mud and whatever as you work on stuff 17:36:45 to be honest i wish i had the time or motivation to play with it more ;( 17:36:50 -!- FungotDestroyer has joined. 17:37:03 what 17:37:07 FungotDestroyer: what 17:37:15 fungot: what 17:37:15 Bike: is your name?" " because it sucks. 17:37:24 fuck. do the destruction 17:37:27 `echo ^echo ^echo 17:37:32 ​^echo ^echo 17:37:38 well 17:37:45 -!- FungotDestroyer has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:37:48 ^ignore 17:37:49 (so if you do go that route, leave me a message or something, i'd be interested to check it out) 17:37:54 it doesn'nt quite work yet 17:38:14 -!- ^v has joined. 17:38:54 dare I ask what it is meant to do? 17:38:56 -!- FungotDestroyer has joined. 17:38:58 `echo ^echo ^echo 17:38:59 ​^echo ^echo 17:39:10 impressive 17:39:12 yes 17:39:18 -!- FungotDestroyer has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:39:49 Since some players might not want some things I put it, I can make it options one thing I want to add is a "difficulty menu", so that you can add "balanced experience" (meaning that if you defeat anyone of a lower level than you then you lose experience points instead) 17:40:01 AIUI, it's some sort of a revenge. 17:40:11 -!- FungotDestroyer has joined. 17:40:12 fizzie: the revenge of the samantus 17:40:28 `echo ^echo ^echo 17:40:29 ​^echo ^echo 17:40:53 I'm actually just trying to reply to hackego, since there doesn't exist a bot yet that replies to it 17:41:04 I'm not entirely sure what fungot has done to earn the revenge, but "w/e". 17:41:05 fizzie: a mean, despicable, boorish person; used the following words to describe it in english?) instances where the compiler can't make their use more transparent. while you're at such relevant topics. 17:41:10 Give me a second =P 17:43:11 -!- FungotDestroyer has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:43:30 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 17:43:34 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: You're on your own.). 17:43:49 i don't know entirely what you have in mind, but considering the source channel it may prove interesting ;) 17:43:56 my biggest complaint with muds has always been how formulaic they are 17:44:00 not dynamic at all 17:44:01 -!- FungotDestroyer has joined. 17:44:08 :O 17:44:11 Yes I know that too 17:44:12 `echo ^echo ^echo 17:44:13 there was some mud that aol ran/hosted for the longest time 17:44:13 ​^echo ^echo 17:44:13 ​^echo ^echo 17:44:17 that was actually crazy interesting 17:44:29 i think it's still up, dragon realms or some such? you have to subscribe 17:44:38 `echo `echo 17:44:40 ​`echo 17:44:40 there was a somethingawful thread that introduced it that i can't seem to find anymore 17:44:45 `echo ^`echo 17:44:46 ​^`echo 17:44:47 ​^`echo 17:44:50 I tried various other MUD but none of them are very good 17:44:54 but it described all the interesting ways they added some of that dynamism into it 17:44:55 aha 17:45:01 -!- FungotDestroyer has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:45:04 + 17:45:21 But I think a difficulty menu would be good idea 17:45:24 unless you want to write your own codebase, the best you can do is go with one that gives you good tools 17:45:35 so i heartily recommend you avoid rom, rot, etc. 17:45:40 OK 17:45:57 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUD_trees 17:46:13 aber is kind of an oddball from what i remember 17:46:17 Even if I do write my own codebase, what would help is some library 17:46:25 -!- FungotDestroyer has joined. 17:46:30 `echo 17:46:31 echo echo 17:46:32 No output. 17:46:39 ``echo 17:46:39 `echo `echo 17:46:40 ​`echo 17:46:41 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found 17:46:41 do investigate dead souls 17:46:45 The library to automatically handle connections, database, changes at runtime, registration, and those kind of things. 17:46:51 ``echo ``echo 17:46:51 `echo ``echo `echo ``echo 17:46:52 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found 17:46:52 ​``echo `echo ``echo 17:46:55 you realise it's trivial to make a bot loop if you make a bot specifically to do so. 17:46:57 i think it'll do what you want if you are able to work with its system 17:47:13 and it has the extensibility 17:47:16 elliott: I'm not *just* trying to make a bot loop 17:47:35 ``echo `echo 17:47:35 `echo `echo `echo `echo 17:47:36 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found 17:47:36 ​`echo `echo `echo 17:47:44 this sure looks like just a bot loop 17:47:56 ``echo `echo ^echo 17:47:56 `echo `echo ^echo `echo `echo ^echo 17:47:57 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found 17:47:57 ​`echo ^echo `echo `echo ^echo 17:48:47 ``echo# 17:48:47 `echo# `echo# 17:48:48 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo#: not found 17:48:48 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: echo#: not found 17:49:04 ``echo echo 17:49:05 `echo echo `echo echo 17:49:05 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found 17:49:06 echo `echo echo 17:49:12 ok seriously the spam is annoying. 17:49:14 ``echo `echo 17:49:14 `echo `echo `echo `echo 17:49:15 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found 17:49:16 ​`echo `echo `echo 17:49:18 alright 17:49:21 -!- FungotDestroyer has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:49:33 What is license of Dead Souls MUD? 17:49:42 i linked the url above, one sec 17:49:47 I like how fungot wasn't involved there at all, despite the name. 17:49:47 fizzie: it is to be able to 17:49:51 http://dead-souls.net/ 17:49:54 got spammed out :P 17:50:42 http://lpmuds.net/copyright.mudos 17:51:03 %quit 17:51:04 Roujo: Alright, off I go! 17:51:06 -!- Emilie has quit (Quit: Later!). 17:51:34 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:51:54 http://dead-souls.net/articles/copyright.html 17:51:56 more useful link 17:51:58 -!- augur has joined. 17:52:12 -!- Emilie has joined. 17:52:18 HackEgo 17:52:19 You're on 17:52:31 `echo %echo Take that! 17:52:32 ​%echo Take that! 17:52:37 I tried to connect but it seems I cannot disable ANSI codes 17:52:38 >nope 17:52:40 Well crap 17:53:24 Roujo: it's not just regular spaces 17:53:48 %echo hi 17:53:49 hi 17:53:55 I know 17:53:56 -!- yorick has joined. 17:54:05 I thought I was stripping everything I needed to =P 17:54:08 `test 17:54:09 No output. 17:54:11 %echo ^echo %echo hi 17:54:11 ^echo %echo hi 17:54:11 %echo hi %echo hi 17:54:12 hi %echo hi 17:54:20 oh right fungot duplicates 17:54:20 AnotherTest: fnord/ tmp/ fnord whee, dependency graphs! http://www.spinnoff.com/ zbb/ fnord/ fnord 17:54:44 Is there one with a FSF/OSI compatible license (or one that has a UNIX version which is this and is completely compatible with the Windows version)? 17:54:51 ^help 17:54:51 ^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool 17:54:54 ^show 17:54:54 echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list ping def a something 17:55:04 I have no idea what the character is, though 17:55:41 remove everythign that's not ascii 17:55:55 Yeah, I think I'll whitelist instead 17:55:58 ^eval hi 17:56:02 Keep only A-z0-9 17:56:07 ^test 17:56:14 ^test a 17:57:39 %echo ^eval hi 17:57:39 ^eval hi 17:58:06 ^str hm 17:58:06 Usage: ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text] 17:58:11 ^str 9 17:58:11 Usage: ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text] 17:58:56 -!- ^v has changed nick to dan200. 17:58:59 ^str 1 set %echo ^str 1 get 17:59:00 Set: %echo ^str 1 get 17:59:15 ^str 1 get 17:59:15 %echo ^str 1 get 17:59:15 ^str 1 get 17:59:15 %echo ^str 1 get 17:59:16 ^str 1 get 17:59:16 %echo ^str 1 get 17:59:17 ^str 1 get 17:59:17 %echo ^str 1 get 17:59:18 ^str 1 get 17:59:18 %echo ^str 1 get 17:59:19 ^str 1 get 17:59:19 %echo ^str 1 get 17:59:19 yay 17:59:20 ^str 1 get 17:59:20 %echo ^str 1 get 17:59:21 ^str 1 get 17:59:21 %echo ^str 1 get 17:59:22 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o elliott. 17:59:22 ^str 1 get 17:59:22 %echo ^str 1 get 17:59:23 -!- elliott has set channel mode: +m. 17:59:27 -!- elliott has set channel mode: -m. 18:00:19 Wait 18:00:22 Bot loop? 18:00:25 Oops =P 18:01:29 yes, although elliott intervened 18:01:31 myndzi: Is there a better one? 18:01:50 %quit 18:01:50 Roujo: Alright, off I go! 18:01:53 -!- Emilie has quit (Quit: Later!). 18:02:12 meetings have interesting side-effects. elliott is now op. 18:02:20 pls nerf 18:02:24 if you're going to do more of them, at least make them creative quines instead of just relying on external storage :p 18:02:32 ^^ 18:02:36 Will try 18:03:26 I am not looking for that level of library; I am looking for lower level library which is dealing with connections and so on. 18:04:21 zzo38: i don't know. muds are actually quite complex beasts 18:04:35 to my understanding, most of the available code comes in the form of a code base + patches perhaps 18:04:51 lower level than that, and you lose the mud-specificity 18:04:51 -!- elliott has set channel mode: -o elliott. 18:05:01 so you'd be looking for a 'user management library' or whatever the heck 18:05:02 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 18:05:58 Well, I am looking for FSF/OSI compliant runtime engine (or at least one where a 100% compatible UNIX version is) 18:06:32 -!- Bike has joined. 18:06:43 It is the runtime engine I am looking for and not the mudlib 18:07:06 well, you could certainly write your own mudlib 18:07:14 that's a lot of code to work with 18:07:30 most of lp muds are written IN lpc 18:07:40 so maybe the driver is closer to what you're looking for 18:08:19 while I still have some active neurons left in my brain and can form some coherent stuff, and just realized myndzi has been active for the past few hours... 18:08:34 myndzi: let me ask you the The Question: what are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? 18:08:38 har 18:08:50 har? 18:08:52 i'm 'around' irc quite a bit, i just don't have an awful lot to contribute to this channel 18:09:08 I'll put in 'around' and 'unknown' 18:09:39 i should say, i'm actively present on irc most of the day most of the time :P 18:10:09 i originally came here to play around with bf joust, but you guys talk about interesting stuff 18:10:17 i have practically no interest in esoteric programming languages howere ;) 18:10:19 however* 18:10:26 boily: "around" and "har". 18:10:52 oh wow, i totally missed the second line 18:10:53 haha 18:10:59 bad timing 18:11:33 47.272986,-120.882277 and ~ 190 :P 18:12:30 * boily falls from his chair in pure astonishment 18:12:37 a complete and useful answer! 18:12:47 i don't much see how it's useful but *shrug* 18:13:00 I'll have a box of chocolate delivered by ICBM for you. 18:13:14 be sure to send me a tracking number 18:13:28 elliott: I'm still tempted to put 'har' for the weigh. 18:13:54 you didn't get the units of the weigh. 18:14:01 grams 18:14:03 centimeters 18:14:13 gram-centimeters per ampere 18:14:17 you... weigh... 190 centimetres 18:14:25 got a problem with that? 18:14:28 Bike: ow. 18:14:31 i'm also 25 KB/sec tall 18:14:41 * boily facepalms 18:14:59 no chocolate for you, you vile ununitter! 18:15:15 boo 18:15:17 i was dying to taste it. 18:15:24 ok, then... 18:15:37 btw, 47,-120, that sounds an awful lot like seattle, eh? 18:15:39 -!- SingingBoyo has joined. 18:15:48 haha, that's a new one 18:16:02 never met anyone who recognized gps coords on sight 18:16:07 but yes, olympia 18:16:11 Some to think of it, scratch that 18:16:18 `relcome SingingBoyo 18:16:20 ​SingingBoyo: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 18:16:23 Making Emily respond to HackEgo is breaking other stuff =P 18:16:56 what is your bot even for 18:20:13 ù 18:20:15 % 18:20:19 %echo hi 18:20:22 oh it's gone 18:20:46 ~echo hi 18:20:46 hi 18:21:02 thank' god 18:23:36 boily: so is the esoteric centroid presently in tacoma or something 18:23:37 thank' :: (Divinity a) => (a -> a -> a) -> [a] -> a 18:23:56 Bike: if I k-means it, probably one of them yes. 18:25:23 active members are split around west coast, east coast, and scandinavia. 18:25:32 (for all practical purposes, hexham is in Finland.) 18:26:17 oh, and a few Belgians. again, Paris is in Belgium. 18:26:29 gotcha 18:30:12 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Quit: MindlessDrone). 18:31:48 Welp, what a surprise: printing doesn't work. 18:35:50 ~duck welp 18:35:51 --- No relevant information 18:35:56 ~duck kelp 18:35:56 kelp definition: any of various large brown seaweeds (order Laminariales). 18:36:40 `learn welp is humid kelp, and not at all related to toes, their hairs, and generic requests for TWHes and TDHes. 18:36:44 I knew that. 18:36:53 `? welp 18:36:55 welp is humid kelp, and not at all related to toes, their hairs, and generic requests for TWHes and TDHes. 18:37:07 shachaf and I went to the beach and we saw giant bull whip kelp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nereocystis) 18:37:24 I've used the "pxlmono" driver with this before, how come it doesn't work now nyarrrr 18:37:56 36 metres for a seaweed??? 18:38:04 yep 18:38:09 the ones we saw were only 2 or 3 m though 18:39:56 did you sample them? how do they taste like? 18:40:39 Switched drivers, now it's [stopped "Filter failed"]. Sigh. 18:40:59 ~duck nyar 18:40:59 Software description: command line progress bar (C). 18:41:07 mmhm 18:41:09 I did not know that. 18:41:27 same here. where the fungot does that come from. 18:41:27 boily: is python a joke? ;p it might make sense 18:42:10 Roujo: WEEEEEEEEELP! 18:43:05 boily: Nani? 18:44:02 Roujo: fungotが怖いんだぞ… 18:44:03 boily: so i guess a really savvy glass programmer could make some money, maybe start a home based business of a profiler to spot outright dead code. macro-generated code often has big swaths of it. i'd hate learning cobol and fortran just for getting wiki work. 18:44:05 I, uh, I got out... something. It's hard to describe. 18:44:08 It's got pixels in it. 18:44:16 screenshot! 18:44:21 Picture! 18:44:28 watercolour! 18:44:43 lithograph of fizzie's monitor 18:45:56 fizzie, that sounds interesting, what is it? 18:46:46 "so i guess a really savvy glass programmer could make some money" 18:46:56 I don't have a scanner. I'll see if I can bother to take a picture of it after I actually get this printer working. 18:46:59 (Well, "if".) 18:47:15 fizzie, is it pixelated? 18:47:43 I don't really know how it relates to the intended output at all. 18:47:48 But it's certainly something. 18:47:50 Ouch 18:48:00 AnotherTest: a prophecy. who shall be the Chosen One to make it true? 18:48:04 I mean, it has darker and lighter regions. 18:48:51 fizzie, well that is a start 18:49:14 Huh, the ljet4 driver worked okay. 18:49:28 I guess I'll go with that, though I don't really understand why the previously-working pxlmono would no longer work. 18:49:30 Ah 18:49:40 command line progress bars are great (I only know of pv, though) 18:49:49 fizzie, it is, you get a single pixel obviously (pixel mono) 18:49:55 (It's a Lexmark E232, and speaks some dialect of PCL 5c/5e/6.) 18:50:11 pickle 18:50:50 I tried AberMUD too but it won't compile 18:50:54 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0/2013080200]). 18:59:01 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 18:59:03 -!- douglass has joined. 18:59:11 nothing like a portion of coleslaw and a dill pickle on the side when you're having a nice smoked meat sandwich... 19:01:38 Sounds good 19:01:42 BUS 19:02:16 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 19:10:40 -!- Bike has joined. 19:15:24 Another feature which would interested to me is that your character name is separate from your account name, so you can write on OOC and nobody will know who you are, for example 19:15:40 ~duck ooc 19:15:40 --- No relevant information 19:15:42 boily: nice 19:15:57 i bought a bunch of http://www.mcclurespickles.com/products/pickles 19:16:03 (OOC = out of character) 19:16:42 oh. that ooc. 19:17:59 kmc: be sure to use rye bread for your sandwiches, and some «moutarde de meaux». 19:19:39 bien sûr 19:20:17 Vorpal: This is what came out of Gutenprint: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130821-gutenprint.jpg 19:20:25 -!- asie has joined. 19:20:35 nice! 19:21:47 Bike: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130821-tmp.png -- except slightly modified for clearer grayscale printing -- was the source. 19:21:53 that is beautiful. 19:22:27 framed and hanged in an art gallery, this could reach probably something like 50~60 CAD. 19:22:48 nice 19:23:05 The text near the top edge is from a previous misprint. 19:23:06 fizzie: you could make a career out of buggy drivers. 19:23:11 it makes me think of a barcode 19:23:34 I'm sure it symbolizes something philosophical. some kind of struggle of the classes, or something. 19:25:25 kmc: I tried to scan it with my phone. it doesn't recognize nothing :( 19:26:12 It's an encrypted barcode. 19:27:19 hey did you try taking the fourier transform 19:27:25 (or inverse fourier transform) 19:28:47 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:29:02 shachaf: thanks for sending me that paper on privacy preserving bloom filters 19:29:15 I'm only just now reading it, but it kicked off a chain of reading other interesting crypto papers 19:30:13 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 19:33:26 -!- augur has joined. 19:35:54 yesterday I learned Wolfram Alpha will give you the last few digits of astronomically large numbers like http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7^%287^%287^7%29%29 19:36:40 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=graham%27s+number it doesn't do it for this :< 19:36:49 hahaha 19:37:08 Wikipedia has the last 10 digits though 19:37:12 sniped by Fiora. 19:37:36 meanwhile, W|A won't process “2↑3”. :( 19:38:25 boily: I like the interpretation it gives, though. 19:38:48 fizzie: almost, but not quite, pas pantoute what I wanted. 19:39:05 http://crypto.2013.rump.cr.yp.to/55e2988c4ed3c9f635c9a4c3f52fa0b1.pdf Taiwan has a national LDAP directory? o_O 19:39:31 fizzie: I also tried “tetration(2, 3)”, “2 tetration 3”, “2 ^^ 3” and “2 *** 3”. 19:40:04 (I know one up-arrow is only exponentiation, but if it had went through, then 3↑↑↑↑3 :D) 19:40:52 boily: PowerTower[x,y] works for tetration in Mathematica, but apparently not in W|A. 19:40:56 i love this "download all the keys and GCD them" thing 19:41:05 wtf @ wolfram alpha's definition of graham's number 19:41:38 fizzie, wow 19:41:54 fizzie, is that letter at the top? 19:42:04 helloklofok. 19:42:15 letters even 19:42:19 apparently they didn't have time to read the fucking first line of wikipedia's corresponding entry 19:42:34 Vorpal: They're from a previous misprint, I reused the paper. 19:42:36 oklofok, hi! Long time since I talked to you. How are you? 19:42:47 kmc: neat 19:42:49 fizzie, when it gave you letters instead of an image even? 19:43:26 fizzie: didn't you have that nifty webpage where you could graph peoples' presence? 19:43:33 Vorpal: Yes. It used to do that in the old setup when there was a paper jam, if I tried to continue printing without canceling the job and starting a new one. 19:43:47 Vorpal: nothing new i gues 19:43:48 s 19:43:49 boily: You mean somewhere in http://zem.fi/ircvis/esoteric/ ? 19:43:58 or how long ago did we talk last :P 19:44:04 fizzie: yep. thanks! 19:44:05 fizzie, wow. That is one shaky driver 19:44:06 I haven't updated them in a bit, I guess I could do it now. 19:44:18 oklofok, Months? 19:45:02 fizzie, I personally would recommend HP printers, the hplip driver work better under Linux than the official Windows drivers did 19:45:05 this month is my holiday, then i'm gonna try to finish my phd in a year or so 19:45:21 fizzie, might be worth thinking about if you get a new printer at some point 19:45:21 Vorpal: Well, one of them just said "Filter failed", waited a minute, then printed out a sheet of paper where there was just the line "**** Unable to open the initial device, quitting." 19:45:25 (after that, eternal unemployment i guess) 19:45:42 what have you been up to? can you fly yet? 19:45:43 Vorpal: (One of the drivers, for this printer, I mean.) 19:45:45 oklofok: can I ask you the The Question? 19:45:48 yes 19:46:06 oklofok, me? Nah. I only built one wing so far. 19:46:07 oklofok: what are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? 19:46:10 The other one isn't ready 19:46:14 i see 19:46:24 fizzie, heh 19:46:26 boily: i weigh 100kg 19:46:30 or very close 19:46:50 my approximate coördinates are N 60 27 E 22 17 i guess 19:46:58 `thanks oklofok 19:46:59 Thanks, oklofok. Thoklofok. 19:47:58 why? this was in the esoteric survey which i was too ashamed to answer because i like my own languages best. 19:49:03 oklofok: it's because of me the The Question is there in the survey, but I don't have access to its results atm hth. 19:49:26 boily, what survey is this? 19:49:26 therefore, I collect these lemurs independently. 19:49:32 boily: Updated them plots. 19:49:43 Vorpal: the survey from the Infamous Interview, as linked in the /topic. 19:49:48 fizzie: oooooh :D 19:50:19 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 19:50:28 is there a specific reason you're interested in these 19:50:34 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 19:50:48 oklofok: finding this channel's center of mass. 19:50:57 sounds like you want to know where and how much radiation you need to put to kill us all 19:51:00 boily: Is that narrow gap in your presence-bitmap lunchtime or something? 19:51:00 oh right. 19:51:21 boily: you do realize it's in the middle of the earth right? 19:51:42 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:51:49 fizzie: the one at 1900Z? yup. 19:51:56 fizzie: nice graphs 19:52:06 Very regular schedule there. 19:52:30 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 19:52:31 oklofok: well, I thought about putting it on the surface, but if you like the magmatic solution I can compute it for you too. 19:52:43 averaging points on a sphere is way beyond my capability 19:53:11 I guess you can use the von Mises-Fisher distribution or something? 19:53:30 boily: is that a meaningful thing? 19:53:42 fizzie: I work from 9am until 5:30pm, lunch from 12nn until 1pm, sleep from about 9:30pm until 7am. 19:53:45 oklofok: very. 19:53:55 maybe you could take the point on the surface that's closest to the center of mass 19:53:58 i meant to say what kmc said in his first message 19:54:00 fizzie: it would be neat to do some clustering based on activity times, maybe infer timezones and/or who's a grad student 19:54:03 kmc: The maximum-likelihood estimate for the "direction" of the von Mises-Fisher is, IIRC, just the same thing you get if you treat the points as vectors, sum them up, and normalize. 19:54:10 kmc: yes. or wing it, put it on a projection plane, and do it in plain old 2d coördinates. 19:54:17 fizzie: huh, that's convenient 19:54:22 also I'm pretty sure we had this conversation before :) 19:54:30 that's ok though! 19:54:31 olsner: but that's not very meaningful unless the center of mass is already near the surface? 19:54:33 y'all are my external memory 19:54:38 i would think 19:55:06 kmc: In the context of "average hue", I think. 19:55:15 ah, maybe 19:55:16 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:55:28 I used the von Mises-Fisher in the gcolor/fcolor thing. 19:55:36 oklofok: not sure, but I have a vague idea that it's a good approximation of some sort 19:55:46 at one point I was writing some JavaScript to allow a user to choose an arbitrary background color, and then pick a white or black foreground color appropriately 19:55:50 that doesn't need average hue though 19:55:54 but it did kick off a lot of reading about colorspaces 19:56:00 olsner: if it's near the center, then it'll just be random 19:56:01 -!- sacje has joined. 19:56:04 -!- augur has joined. 19:56:07 L*a*b* forevaaaaaaaah! 19:56:41 yep I just picked the one with the larger delta-L* 19:57:08 I think for just choosing between black and white, that's basically as good as using delta-E*(2000) or such 19:57:12 (although having your terminal colours all at the same L* is not a good idea when blending fg and bg.) 19:57:15 haha 19:57:32 -!- dessos has joined. 19:57:45 (I used the "kappa" concentration parameter of von Mises-Fisher for the "how uniformly coloured this image is" weighting.) 19:57:57 what is the gcolor / fcolor thing? 19:58:21 boily: but you have to assume that CSS colors are sRGB, which is spec'd, but I don't know how accurate in practice 19:58:22 It resolves the color of anything you can imagine, based on a Google image search or a Flickr search. 19:59:07 You can try it out at http://zem.fi/fcolor (unless that has bitrotted away tue to Flickr API changes), or read about some pre-selected colors at http://zem.fi/gcolor -- the Google results tended to be better. 19:59:50 Though both have the problem that many abstract concepts end up giving some generic grayish-brown. 20:00:00 oklofok: i suspect that what I said is just what fizzie said might be the "maximum-likelihood estimate for the "direction" of the von Mises-Fisher" 20:01:12 -!- sacje has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 20:01:24 -!- Bike has joined. 20:01:28 fizzie, on fcolor, what is the thing in the image analysis middle part? Specifically the lower part of the middle bit 20:01:30 hmm, http://zem.fi/ircvis/esoteric/termfreq_welcome.html 20:01:45 olsner: It is. And Wikipedia seems to confirm that's the ML answer. 20:01:47 kmc: I went from Lab with D65 as the white point to sRGB. 20:02:49 the end effect may not be perfect, but the eyehurt is there. 20:03:05 boily, Shouldn't you check the output device gamut to see if you can do better? 20:03:11 -!- sacje has joined. 20:03:39 boily, I have a wide gamut monitor at work for example. Pretty pointless since I work as a developer, but whatever 20:04:05 Or wait, that was kmc who was doing the chose-color thingy? 20:04:23 Vorpal: Um, well. It determines the hue first (the top-middle plot is the von Mises-Fisher pdf), and then the bottom-middle part is the (L,S) plane (with H=the mean hue) and the circles are some isolines of the best Gaussian fit of the (L,S) samples of the image, probably at 1 and 2 standard deviations. 20:04:34 Vorpal: kmc is doing the useful colour thingy. all I'm having is eyestrain and bad colourschemes. 20:04:45 boily, why? 20:04:51 Vorpal: cause I can. 20:05:00 fizzie, ah 20:05:03 boily, ah 20:05:15 besides, that's not too bad if I don't touch background colours. 20:05:17 olsner: Apparently we've become more welcoming. 20:05:44 olsner: I don't think it counts relcomes if a color-change hits in the middle of the word "welcome", though. 20:06:32 fizzie, why doesn't gcolor have a web API? 20:06:45 or web gui rather 20:06:56 Vorpal: Google didn't have a proper image search API when I was making it. (I'm not sure if they do now?) 20:07:06 hm. according to the fizziegraphs, I am verbose. 20:07:08 I didn't want to encourage ugly scraping. 20:07:10 ah 20:07:37 "Important: The Google Image Search API has been officially deprecated as of May 26, 2011. It will continue to work as per our deprecation policy, but the number of requests you may make per day may be limited. We encourage you to upgrade to the Custom Search API, which now supports image search." 20:07:54 Well then, just use that? 20:08:07 I guess theoretically speaking I could change the fcolor "GUI" to support both. 20:08:19 My idea of difficulty menu in MUD may be like this: http://sprunge.us/IiME 20:08:25 Possibly there's not enough interest. 20:08:38 Do you like this kind of ideas? What is your opinion of this? 20:08:42 fizzie: fcolor / gcolor are really cool! 20:09:25 It's also a pretty crummy that, due to all that same-origin stuff, it has to circulate all the images through a CGI script at zem.fi. (You can load an image from a different origin, but aren't supposed to get at the pixels programmatically.) 20:09:50 you should use those timing side channel attacks to do it 20:09:52 Heh 20:10:07 according to this, the color of the sun is a kind of reddish brown 20:10:14 fizzie, you could do the processing server side too? 20:10:20 I guess people don't upload that many pictures of the sun itself. 20:10:34 kmc, A sun 20:10:41 The local sun is just one of many 20:10:48 ... 20:10:51 ~duck the sun 20:10:52 The Sun is the star at the center of the Solar System. 20:11:13 I thought it was a newspaper! ;) 20:11:19 Yes, ours is called "the Sun", and then we have "the Solar System", "the Galaxy", "the Universe", ... 20:11:26 boily: Quick, duck, it's the Sun! 20:11:29 (and "the Moon") 20:12:01 and it's called the moon ♪ 20:12:34 -!- asie has joined. 20:12:50 ~duck zzo38 20:12:50 --- No relevant information 20:13:01 Incidentally, Flickr's search results of "love" (my standard go-to test word, used it to remind myself what the "bottom middle part" was) have a rather large number of insects having sex. 20:13:07 ~duck~ zzo38 20:13:07 --- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi 20:13:55 What is your opinion of this difficulty menu? 20:14:08 fizzie: last time I saw some bottom middling was an obnoxious slimy jelly trying to orally humect ion. 20:14:17 zzo38: gurpsian. 20:14:41 -!- zzo38 has quit (Quit: zzo38). 20:15:01 So it seems dyndns now requires you to login once a month for free accounts, not just have the client running, anyone know a better service? 20:15:42 a miasma of incandescent plasma 20:17:05 Vorpal: https://freedns.afraid.org/ 20:17:18 I've seen people use dy.fi, but I think that's sort of Finnish-only for some reason. 20:17:35 Ah 20:17:41 boily, will take a look 20:17:42 (I don't think they do arbitrary domains either, just "foo.dy.fi" names. Though their domain is nicely short.) 20:18:05 is it easy to be finnish? 20:18:18 boily: It's okay to be gay, or so I've heard. 20:18:24 fizzie, I don't need arbitrary, I just need something to ssh to 20:18:53 fizzie: eh? 20:19:10 why do I have to change my sexual orientation to have another nationality? 20:19:19 it's the law 20:19:21 Vorpal: In that case there's also no-ip.com, I think they do a couple of names for free. (But it's more of a "commercial" thing than afraid.org.) 20:19:29 boily: No, no, it was just as an apropos. 20:20:03 Hm 20:20:10 afraid.org will probably be good 20:20:15 I'm glad Japan isn't in Europe, or none of us would have a hope in Eurovision at all 20:20:16 * boily on sekava. 20:20:32 Taneb: hatsune miku steamrolls the composition 20:20:39 boily: I don't think anyone disputes *that*. 20:20:57 (of course, the UK hasn't had a hope in years) 20:21:15 Taneb: the UK won the eurovision??? 20:21:20 What afraid.org caps passwords at 16 chars? 20:21:21 a vocaloid concert at eurovision would be wonderful 20:21:21 ???? 20:21:24 Unprofessional 20:21:41 of course weren't vocaloids developed by a spanish university 20:21:43 imo get on that spain 20:21:56 Vorpal: 16 bytes, or could you unicode the fungot out of that? 20:21:57 boily: java is too resource consuming for my taste. 20:22:03 boily, the last time was in 1997 20:22:07 fungot: yes, but that's besides the point. 20:22:07 boily: is there a subdirectory src or sisc within that? is 50% a good thing to see all the edges in the cfgs, though. 20:22:16 boily, not sure, I can't input more than 16 letters. 20:22:23 Vorpal: meh :| 20:22:39 Fiora: I'm not sure you're allowed to have high enough production values at Eurovision for that 20:23:16 I've actually been to a vocaloid concert 20:23:16 http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/067/4/a/hatsune_miku_and_megurine_luka_magnet_live_by_oscarosi-d4s5j0d.gif ooh a nice gif 20:23:32 A very low budget one 20:23:44 Bike: wasn't there that weird video with a steamroller, nude people with crotch lasers, and that pop tune in the background? 20:23:46 did you win 20:23:52 boily: hepl 20:24:01 ~duck hepl 20:24:01
CASS4 (Cas scaffolding protein family member 4)
Protein-coding gene on human chromosome 20q13.31, also known as C20orf32, HEF-like protein, HEF1-Efs-p130Cas-like, HEFL, HEPL, chromosome 20 open reading frame 32. 20:25:46 Bike: found it: http://youtu.be/86wKWjvUD50 [NSFW] 20:28:53 -!- sacje has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 20:30:34 Oh for.. I'm going to miss that demowall thing again. 20:30:59 For a conflux of reasons, I've never managed to see it once. 20:31:30 ~duck conflux 20:31:31 Conflux is a Magic: The Gathering expansion set, released on February 6, 2009. 20:31:41 @wn conflux 20:31:42 *** "conflux" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" 20:31:42 conflux 20:31:42 n 1: a flowing together [syn: {confluence}, {conflux}, 20:31:42 {merging}] 20:32:03 ~duck confuflux 20:32:03 --- No relevant information 20:32:24 (They are having it hereabouts tomorrow night.) 20:35:38 Yeah, that Vocaloid concert (officially "UK39 ft. Miku Hatsune")... they were having problems with Windows Media Player 20:35:45 hah 20:37:27 -!- FourFire has joined. 20:37:40 that doesn't sound like an official concert 20:37:52 `relcome FourFire 20:37:55 ​FourFire: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 20:38:19 Fiora: miku is a miku of the people, not your bourgeoise centralist concerts 20:38:44 That greeting text is truly most painful! 20:38:56 hello fourfire. hellourfire 20:39:12 Bike: that's true :P 20:39:14 Fiora, I think it was "Let's experiment on these nerds from this backwards corner of England" 20:39:20 MMD is a thing! 20:39:23 At least it has mostly uniform colours for each word 20:39:23 They had a live backing band 20:39:26 the Greeting must be Obeyed, and Glimpsed in All its Colourful Glory. 20:41:04 "UK39" sounds like a silly pun on AKB48 for some reason 20:41:59 There's a word-based rainbow welcome too. 20:42:08 the dalnet channel is rather... sparse 20:42:10 `run welcome | rainwords 20:42:13 ​Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 20:42:16 If you find that more appealing. 20:42:51 well it was nice to see that such a channel as this existed, fare thee well! 20:43:01 later 20:43:07 -!- FourFire has left ("PRIVMSG #lesswrong :#Esoteric is a channel about programming"). 20:43:12 I've still got the ticket stub somewhere 20:43:19 oh man are we being spied on 20:43:46 darn. for once we had a nice visitor, and he left :( 20:43:47 if so: note to spies: we are talking about animes not programming. get ur fax strait, nerds. 20:44:24 the FourFire/Carolyne ratio is way too low for the past quarter. we need a PR campaign. 20:44:33 carolyne? 20:45:18 Fiora: oh, you missed the colombian girl. it was an... uhm... life experience. 20:45:22 Was that one of elliott's many girlfriends? 20:45:33 oops 20:45:37 fizzie: probably. elliott is very mysterious, after all. 20:45:38 -!- Bike has quit (Quit: Reconnecting). 20:45:52 -!- Bike has joined. 20:45:57 well that was dumb of me. 20:46:30 haha I like FourFire's /part message 20:47:10 yes what was that!! 20:47:21 i know a guy who uses purple and it does that 20:47:38 Oh, you mean, it wasn't deliberate? 20:47:40 Bike, stop making less sense than I. 20:47:56 fizzie: yeah, it eats /part-s if you have some mods 20:48:08 wget for https is fucked on my RPi it appears 20:48:11 How confusing 20:48:13 -!- SingingBoyo has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 20:48:17 should i join #lesswrong to see what gives 20:48:22 Bike: I thought it was some kind of a clever. 20:48:25 pros: possibly funny; cons: joining #lesswrong 20:48:32 curl works fine 20:48:35 wget just hangs 20:48:53 i've had problems with wget and https before. imo fuck it 20:51:36 -!- SingingBoyo has joined. 20:52:03 Hm 20:52:12 Bike, it works fine for the same URL on my desktop 20:52:17 So that is pretty weird 20:52:32 well. 20:53:09 Vorpal: old weird version on the RPi? 20:55:14 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has joined. 20:55:28 boily, 512 MB version 20:55:57 boily, is that old and weird? 20:56:16 About 5-6 months old by now 20:56:18 Vorpal, what are you wget'ing? I'll see what happens with my RPi 20:56:38 (less than a week old) 20:56:44 Vorpal: I mean, the wget version, not the RPi itself. hth. 20:57:07 I have two RPies at my apartment. I should test what happens on them. 20:57:09 Taneb, a secret update URL for freedns.afraid.org. Nope not going to share it and have it repoint to your IP :P 20:57:17 :P 20:57:29 What happens with other https's? 20:57:34 `run echo green yellow red green red blue cyan magenta green red green blue green red red blue magenta blue green blue yellow magenta magenta blue cyan yellow green red green magenta green yellow cyan yellow magenta cyan red blue cyan cyan | rainwords 20:57:36 ​green yellow red green red blue cyan magenta green red green blue green red red blue magenta blue green blue yellow magenta magenta blue cyan yellow green red green magenta green yellow cyan yellow magenta cyan red blue cyan cyan 20:57:39 Taneb, this hangs too: wget -O - https://www.google.com 20:57:42 fuck u kmc :( 20:57:58 stroop test motherfuckkkkkkkkas 20:58:07 Taneb, works fine on my desktop 20:58:08 * boily hits kmc over the head with a NYC yellow pages 20:58:14 Works on my RPi 20:58:16 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has changed nick to Nisstyre. 20:58:21 is it harder if sometimes the word does match? 20:58:46 kmc, aaaaaah I hate those things 20:58:59 Taneb, I did have problems with dns the other week on the RPi. The local recursive DNS server refused to resolve anything. Then it just randomly started working again after clearing the cache for the fourth time 20:59:08 Not sure if my RPi has some issues perhaps 20:59:11 it's the only method I know for somebody to prove that they *don't* know a particular language 20:59:17 (though there are ways to cheat too, like defocusing your eyes) 20:59:22 relevant http://neilblr.com/post/44579634689 20:59:24 kmc: it's certainly throwing me off 20:59:55 how much is it to launch a private ICBM with a small nuclear charge? 21:00:23 Amazon Elastic ICBM 21:00:32 elliott: haha 21:00:38 -!- kallisti has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 21:01:09 anybody can pool some money? it's for a noble cause. 21:01:27 alright i have an argument against merica not using the metric system 21:01:43 that argument is: why is this being taught in a college class. holy shit. holy shiasdayviaerqjjjjjjjj 21:01:50 maybe I could kickstarter it... pledge at least 20$ and get a glow-in-the-dark radioactive replica of kmc's skeleton! 21:02:00 Bike, it would make it easier for the terrorist to get the measurements right? 21:02:13 boily: http://kickstriker.com/kony 21:02:25 kickstriker owns 21:02:39 Bike: do you read http://www.wrongingrights.com/ 21:02:52 `learn shiasdayviaerqjjjjjjjj is the reason why the USA don't use the metric system. 21:02:52 kmc, as if that would ever amount to anything actually happening 21:02:55 I knew that. 21:02:56 no, what is it 21:03:04 Vorpal: read the rest, imo 21:03:21 oh god there's a post about The Newsroom 21:03:21 «Apparently, riding astride is “uncultural.” And, like the much maligned mini-skirt, it threatens road safety by distracting male drivers» the worst argument 21:04:00 -!- calamari has joined. 21:04:04 Bike, okay, doubtful that will work still. 21:04:15 Vorpal: you're killing me here 21:04:17 -!- calamari has left. 21:04:24 elliott, me? 21:04:30 ~duck the room 21:04:31 The Room may refer to: The Room, by Harold Budd The Room The Room, by Zoé The Room, by Tommy Wiseau The Room, from Newgrounds. 21:06:46 I played a puzzle game named "The Room" recently. Was pretty fun. Think it was part of some humble (android?) bundle. 21:11:50 Vorpal: if it is, I don't have it in my bought bundles. 21:11:55 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 21:12:04 Vorpal: did you ever play the submachine flash games? 21:14:24 boily, hm? 21:14:34 boily, I don't recall ever hearing about that 21:17:19 -!- calamari has joined. 21:26:20 fizzie, according to fcolor water is brown with a green tint 21:27:11 And the sea is green with a very slight blue tint 21:27:19 I'm glad I didn't put in "cocks" as my first try 21:27:28 I didn't realize it shows the individual images 21:27:30 and I am at work 21:27:54 heh 21:27:57 mozilla has a stict no-cocks policy 21:28:03 It might not show too NSFWy things, it's a Flickr search. 21:28:17 lots of pictures of roosters 21:28:21 Some roosters, maybe. 21:28:28 I am: late. 21:29:45 good night 21:29:51 It could also run kajillion times faster, there's just lots of delays because I didn't want to have too many requests going on. 21:29:59 -!- Bike has joined. 21:32:29 Heh 21:32:31 good night 21:33:11 boily: submachine's fun 21:37:53 Bike: it is, but I must disappear in a vortex. 21:37:55 -!- boily has quit (Quit: Poulet!). 21:37:56 -!- metasepia has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:38:20 k 21:42:05 -!- mnoqy has joined. 21:42:14 «The teacher says that Daniel is fascinated by Maggie’s hair because he’s never seen a blonde person before, and that “blondes are trouble.”» oh my, kmc 21:49:52 kmc: this blog is horrifying, help 21:50:03 ? 21:50:16 "certain conduct of a sexual nature that was nonconsensual" 21:50:20 oh, that thing you posted above 21:50:24 thanks yale 21:51:00 "implements such as those that are used for the construction of trenches" 21:51:14 I believe it was Tacitus who wrote that 21:52:28 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:55:03 "Kate is a lawyer (Columbia, 2006) and PhD candidate in political science (Columbia, 2204?)" haha 21:58:14 Gregor: So yeah. Finally got some Moxie. 21:58:28 I'll be able to see if it's any good, or if you're just a crazy anosmic man. 22:00:04 -!- Bike_ has joined. 22:00:32 -!- Bike has quit (Disconnected by services). 22:00:34 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 22:01:16 what's that? 22:01:35 Moxie is a soda that Gregor is fond of, that's really hard to find outside of Maine. 22:02:17 It's also the origin of the English word "moxie". 22:02:37 oh really 22:12:15 -!- asie has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 22:12:38 -!- yorick has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:14:18 -!- asie has joined. 22:19:31 -!- Koen_ has joined. 22:21:13 kmc: there should be a rust make thingy that compiles required files into crates and links them together automatically 22:22:13 there's rustpkg; it's a work in progress 22:22:55 I don't know much about it 22:23:04 we had a meeting this morning to talk about using it for Servo, but we aren't yet 22:26:52 -!- conehead has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 22:43:10 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 22:49:42 btw crates are only linked dynamically, at the moment 22:50:05 but you need the .so at compile time to get metadata out, and to set the rpath probably 22:50:18 metadata reading is atrociously slow right now 23:06:15 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 23:09:20 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 23:18:20 -!- Bike has joined. 23:18:47 -!- Sgeo has joined. 23:43:53 cool, I found my first actual "compiler produces bad code, leading to memory corruption" bug 23:45:33 oerjan: I cheered 23:45:41 -!- iamfishhead has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 23:46:27 "my favorite kind of bug" 23:47:17 kmc: For the rust compiler? 23:48:17 -!- Bike has quit (Quit: Reconnecting). 23:48:32 -!- Bike has joined. 23:49:04 yes 23:54:55 -!- azaq23 has joined.