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It will eventually mess itself up and there will be an exploit for spyware. " 01:17:40 sound's bad 01:17:42 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 01:18:11 I want a fun way to wreck Windows XP 01:20:23 deltree c: 01:20:55 deltree doesn't exist in WinXP, and I tried an equivalent and it was somewhat boring 01:21:13 take the case and just smash it up with a hammer 01:21:15 just fucking smash it 01:21:23 P. sure it's a VM. 01:21:31 who cares smash it 01:21:33 "Install it." 01:21:46 just wham 01:21:53 right in the fucking drive motherfucker 01:22:10 Boot two or three instances of the VM using the same filesystem image. 01:22:25 i sense a market for a vm with a smash button hth 01:22:27 So they mutate the FS and each other one is unaware of it. 01:22:39 I think that would require taking the filesystem image and making it take up real space on my HD 01:22:44 At least in VirtualBox 01:22:48 But that does sound fun 01:24:09 -!- Nisstyre has quit (Quit: Leaving). 01:28:34 -!- aloril has joined. 01:30:53 Someone said that NT actually supports that, pikhq 01:45:09 -!- ^^V has changed nick to ^v. 01:53:07 Ooh I could try a fork bomb 02:05:58 dijkstra is an excellent blogger; "But such co-operation is of course based on the theory that, when you tie two stones together, the combination will float." 02:11:54 Ooh I know how I can delete system files while the VM is off 02:15:51 Windows XP seems to tolerate exploer.exe not existing surprisingly well 02:16:05 -!- CADD has joined. 02:16:34 <^v> Sgeo, yeah? 02:16:39 <^v> it can be corrupt 02:16:40 <^v> :P 02:16:51 Takes a bit of time at the login thing, then boots into just the wallpaper being visible 02:16:53 <^v> nothing will happen, you will just have to use cmd 02:17:00 Sgeo: Infect it with viruses 02:17:07 Ctrl-Alt-Del works just fine, so could start programs like that 02:22:57 -!- Bike has quit (Quit: brb). 02:51:33 -!- Bike has joined. 02:54:44 -!- CADD has changed nick to CADD|away. 03:03:35 -!- Bike has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:04:16 -!- Bike has joined. 03:13:29 I miss Microsoft Ants 03:14:51 sgeo do you ever feel nostalgic for things that were actually good 03:16:38 I think most of the things that I feel nostalgic for that you might consider good still exist 03:17:05 how logical 03:17:30 Mutation was good, I feel nostalgic for it, it no longer exists. 03:18:04 mutation could not escape changing 03:36:23 doesthiswork: what's the two-stones-float quote from? 03:36:30 Inb4 "dijkstra hth" 03:36:46 I just think it's so *weird* how "Frosted Flakes" isn't a trademark. 03:36:53 Anyone can make a cereal and call it Frosted Flakes. 03:37:08 You can't make a hat and call it Frosted Flakes, because Kellogg's owns the trademark on Frosted Flakes brand hats. 03:37:22 But not for Frosted Flakes cereal; that's public domain. 03:37:48 is wearing cereal as a hat trademarked? 03:37:52 There's a trademark for "Kellogg's Frosted Flakes". But if you look it up, it specifically says that "no claim is made to the exclusive right to use 'Frosted Flakes'". 03:38:19 Bike: I doubt it, but it could be! 03:38:38 You could make and sell little figurines wearing cereal as a hat, and then file a trademark for wearing cereal as a hat. 03:39:40 tswett: ewd 1175 03:41:03 -!- Bike_ has joined. 03:41:28 I'm actually kind of surprised that Kellogg's doesn't have a trademark for something like "the words 'Frosted Flakes' in white on a blue background". 03:43:50 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 03:47:58 Something I really like about trademark law: in order for a company to retain the exclusive rights to a trademark even when it's being used generically (e.g. "photoshopped"), the company has to "visibly and actively seem to attempt" to get people to stop using it generically. 03:48:10 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 03:48:14 It doesn't matter whether they succeed or not. All that's required is that they look like they're trying. 03:48:35 what's the point of maintaining a genericized trademark 03:49:13 I guess the word "Photoshop" is still a completely valid trademark; it's still illegal for anyone else to make software called Photoshop. 03:58:49 -!- Bike has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:00:31 -!- Bike has joined. 04:02:15 -!- sacje has quit (Quit: sacje). 04:06:31 http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=296158 04:08:34 * Bike skips to latest strip. evil dwarf ok 04:20:21 Bike: bad move, the link was about the _first_ strip hth 04:20:38 y es 04:30:10 ESSID:"LA_face_OAK_booty" // in Oakland 04:32:09 also OH: "I have a dumbphone whose IMEI is all zeroes" 04:59:12 -!- kmc has set topic: Amor vincit omnia | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric. 05:02:42 i ain't gettin this latin shite 05:08:14 -!- lambdabot has quit (Quit: requested). 05:08:43 `olist (911) 05:12:24 -!- lambdabot has joined. 05:14:01 wat and i checked just an hour ago 05:14:34 Bike: you should be able to get it with enough love hth 05:16:16 Ascendo tuum* 05:16:31 fungot: you seem to be the only reliable bot here 05:16:31 oerjan:, so i'd have to consider that although the reduction in actual transportation section from former friend lives, their door had my computer with full u+ support" then they both bowed low. just keep the safe or tub and emptied it 05:17:11 oerjan: What, I'm not reliable? 05:17:38 Gregor: your bots have croaked hth 05:18:17 shachaf: there might be another way in which you don't fit that sentence hth 05:18:31 aristophanes: your frogs have croaked hth 05:18:39 oerjan: are you suggesting that i'm not here 05:18:43 p. sure you'll find that i am 05:18:45 brekekex brekekex 05:19:59 *+ke/g 05:21:03 also why does belkar call varsuuvius "she" tdnh 05:21:13 *+a-u 05:21:39 what else would he call her hth 05:30:23 +LnpctC 05:31:35 might be in SF tomorrow. not sure. 05:32:32 hi Gracenotes 05:32:41 shachaf: are you back south again? 05:32:54 Does Salt Lake City count as south? 05:33:00 I suppose so 05:33:08 what's interesting round there? 05:33:26 Inside the airport? Not all that much, I think. 05:35:34 I think I know some people from there? 05:36:31 yeah... I don't plan on going to Utah ever 05:39:23 I tend to observe trends for places for native people advising for or against going there 05:40:33 Though if my sampling was actually uniform, I would probably get a better rate for many places 05:49:45 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 05:50:40 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 05:53:32 -!- CADD|away has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:54:04 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 05:56:12 -!- sacje has joined. 06:01:47 -!- ^v has quit (Quit: Leaving). 06:09:48 I want to write a Python script, but the script would be incredibly dangerous to run by accident. 06:10:05 make it require -f 06:10:07 also hi Sgeo 06:10:10 -f? 06:10:12 Hi 06:11:55 I could check if I'm on Windows 8 and if so abort 06:12:09 this sounds like an exciting script 06:13:18 It will attempt to delete every entry in the Registry recursively 06:13:26 i was right 06:19:20 -!- ^v has joined. 06:20:18 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 06:34:50 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 06:38:33 -!- augur has joined. 06:43:59 `olist 911 06:45:31 uh 06:45:43 shachaf: oerjan 06:45:48 Sgeo..................... 06:45:52 FreeFull: I think? 06:46:00 Oh 06:46:04 I blame HackEgo 06:49:50 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:06:13 Sgeo: oh, just use /proc/registry 07:06:22 very easy 07:06:42 o.O 07:06:49 I thought that you were making a joke 07:07:05 Cygwin does actually expose a /proc/registry 07:07:18 `thanks cygwin 07:07:28 hackego no 07:07:30 er. yes. that's what I meant. also, really. 07:08:36 although like much of rest of real-/proc, it seems to be readonly 07:09:22 :( 07:10:59 also, did you know that it is not possible to use the internet and also be libertarian. http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/a-plea-to-learn-more-about-bezoss-personal-politics/2013/08/15/27164286-05e7-11e3-a07f-49ddc7417125_story.html 07:11:36 why is everyone freaking out about bezos now. the post was always shit 07:11:57 as evidenced by this article, no less 07:12:54 yeah, I dunno for the most part, I find the argument here conservative and little else; we'll see. 07:13:29 there are certainly better arguments to be made against libertarianism than "lol cold war" 07:14:18 but that's the level of discourse, i guess 07:14:55 hm, the cold war was pretty good for science, we should definitely bring that back 07:16:12 makes sense 07:18:04 while I'm linking... my Google News comes up with interesting things sometimes. http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?14106-Drzewiecki-Design-New-York-City-X-v1-1-Released 07:18:18 of note, in v1.1, "It will enhance the performance of the product, by optimizing the Virtual Address Space memory usage." 07:19:56 "Extras like people, wave effects, custom car traffic, ships and boats, cranes, hundrieds of fuel storage tanks, various library objects etc." 07:22:01 Anyway, go engineers. 07:22:10 not real engineers, software engineers. 07:22:11 -!- sacje has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 07:24:09 -!- sacje has joined. 07:31:39 -!- ^v has quit (Quit: Leaving). 07:38:23 -!- sacje has quit (Quit: sacje). 07:54:45 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 08:02:12 -!- zzo38 has joined. 08:05:55 -!- asie has joined. 08:09:05 In this book of philosophy they discuss various philosophical problems. 08:11:49 -!- Taneb has joined. 08:12:53 i agree 08:27:01 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 08:27:30 -!- copumpkin has joined. 08:40:05 hi shachaf 09:00:36 -!- SingingBoyo has joined. 09:16:39 -!- Guest24179 has joined. 09:16:44 -!- Guest24179 has quit (Excess Flood). 09:21:06 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 09:22:28 -!- sacje has joined. 09:23:18 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 09:37:37 Interesting, transfer speed over ssh to my phone maxes out at around 2.4 MB/s (from phone), but if I do several logins in parallel to my phone it seems each connection (up to a max of 4) maxes out at 2.4 MB/s. This would imply that it is in some way CPU bound (since it has 4 CPU cores). 09:39:36 Since you have an ssh, you could run top 10:00:55 hi kmc 10:01:17 hi shachaf 10:01:29 * shachaf is back 10:01:46 an interstellar burst, you're back to save the universe 10:02:39 my flight ended up landing at 1:something instead of 23 10:03:16 did you get home? 10:03:25 just now 10:03:43 what do you think of air travel 10:03:55 If God told you to sacrifice your child at the top of the mountain, would you do so? 10:04:16 zzo38: Which mountain? 10:04:27 kmc: not a big fan but the alternatives are often worse 10:04:41 shachaf: I am not sure. It could be any one, I suppose. 10:05:04 zzo38: I don't have a child so I don't think I can know 10:05:16 kmc: Good. 10:05:28 should i have a child 10:05:32 seems like a pretty bad move 10:05:40 Probably you shouldn't. 10:05:46 bad moves make good movies hth 10:06:08 -!- sacje has quit (Excess Flood). 10:06:13 should i move out of epa 10:06:16 seems like a pretty good move 10:06:58 yes 10:07:04 you should move to san francisco 10:07:11 kmc: was that a hi with a purpose or just a hi 10:07:12 When are a bunch of stages to be considered parts of the same continuing object? (ex. a solid beeswax melting, a person growing up to be adult, etc) 10:07:22 i'm not sure 10:07:27 #drugz 10:07:51 This book gives one possible answer which is pretty long, but I have a simpler answer. My answer is: Always. 10:08:59 zzo38: you have the buddha nature 10:09:33 kmc: I have been told similar things before. (I am not 100% sure of it, though.) 10:09:46 as well you shouldn't be! 10:11:00 Gracenotes: what will you do in SF? 10:13:15 -!- btiffin has joined. 10:14:56 One thing this book says, is, if you have two completely identical pennies including location and so on. Is there still two pennies? They didn't answer this, but I think for one thing it will have twice the mass of a single penny. There is also other laws of physics preventing it from working. 10:20:11 -!- asie has joined. 10:20:21 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 10:20:50 kmc: if I go, probably lunch with someone from NY, but dunno after 10:21:20 -!- augur has joined. 10:25:04 I really have no clue :x 10:25:33 Gracenotes: should i get a haircut tomorrow 10:29:38 I got a haircut today 10:30:07 well, I do meet a bunch of people whose haircut on their badge does not match that on their head 10:30:41 by tomorrow i meant today i suppose 10:31:43 -!- btiffin has left. 10:41:57 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 10:43:37 -!- copumpkin has joined. 11:02:26 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 11:08:46 Have you come up with the idea of quantum immortality independently? 11:19:44 -!- SingingBoyo has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 11:20:48 -!- constant has changed nick to trout. 11:21:37 -!- Koen_ has joined. 11:29:47 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:21:00 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 12:23:43 -!- dessos has left. 12:33:44 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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I've been trying to stick an Emacs on the Windows system I have here, but no matter what I do w.r.t. font selection (elisp set-face-attribute 'default, or the Options/Set default font customize-driven thing) and which font I select, it just says 'Invalid font name: "-outline-SimSun-ExtB-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1"'. 15:50:04 -!- nooodl_ has joined. 15:52:58 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 15:53:19 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 16:22:06 -!- nortti has changed nick to \U0001F4A9. 16:22:17 -!- \U0001F4A9 has changed nick to nortti. 16:40:39 ...is Down to Earth offline permanently? :) 16:40:40 :( 16:40:42 Not a :) 16:45:50 -!- carado has joined. 16:47:09 -!- Koen_ has joined. 16:49:41 -!- Bike has joined. 17:03:19 -!- carado_ has joined. 17:06:04 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 17:08:52 -!- carado_ has changed nick to carado. 17:35:42 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has joined. 17:36:20 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has changed nick to Nisstyre. 18:03:08 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 18:06:07 -!- augur has joined. 18:12:44 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 18:13:08 -!- Bike has joined. 18:13:15 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 18:15:05 man, hating notch became fashionable at some point 18:15:11 this sucks 18:16:45 Phantom_Hoover, imagine if Notch made a brainfuck derivative 18:17:30 have you read fine structure perchance 18:17:37 I have not 18:17:46 Neither have I watched Farscape 18:18:00 -!- asie has joined. 18:18:21 Anyway, I must be off 18:18:22 Bye! 18:18:30 are you off to watch farscape 18:18:36 No 18:18:38 if so: i approve 18:18:41 I am off to eat 18:18:42 if not: watch farscape 18:18:48 far better than that whedon crap you like 18:19:19 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 18:19:25 kmc: i brought the mölkky back with me hth 18:19:29 (and some other things) 18:21:49 is that the weird wooden petanque 18:23:20 it sounds finnish 18:45:38 -!- Taneb has joined. 18:46:22 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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Oh 22:00:28 kmc: to be fair,it is titled "watch me jerk off" 22:00:42 (#esoteric is now porn) 22:00:58 #esoteric's been porn for a long time 22:03:47 Bike: your link re: photoshopped science led me to http://tocrofl.tumblr.com/ 22:04:39 oh good, i was considering making a tumblr for silly science things due to "The writer must admit that he has had no introspections from rabbits to justify this conclusion" in a footnote 22:05:34 http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ol401012u welp 22:06:56 <^v> kmc: gotta love that hot filimant 22:07:39 -!- asie has joined. 22:08:21 "The human brain, with its three-dimensional evolution history, often finds it difficult to visualize 2N -dimensional spin system trajectories, particularly for large values of N and especially on Fridays." ain't that the truth 22:11:22 -!- oerjan has set topic: Amor vincit somnia | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric. 22:17:27 :) 22:24:05 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Quit: MindlessDrone). 22:24:54 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 22:27:35 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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