< 1375833600 248159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... yeah but... never mind < 1375833668 631975 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot: that is the first line on a new page at codu.org < 1375833994 911352 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow what a coincidence; that's the first thing you've said since joining < 1375834009 178957 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork is the bringer of the new day. < 1375834077 798237 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375834240 191941 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375835248 350521 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375835398 350837 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375835416 260563 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C, can you have declarations after statements? < 1375835542 631998 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'main() { int x; x = 3; int y; return x + y; }\n' > a.c && gcc a.c < 1375835547 850322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C99, not in C89 or Ye Olde C < 1375835550 230937 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375835588 720974 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1375835603 461332 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking about kernel's "add to environments whenever" thing and how much i hate it < 1375835607 270842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some compilers may allow it without explicitly enabling C99, just as they allow //-comments) < 1375835616 60746 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: fun fact: you can't put a goto label on a declaration < 1375835631 750510 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, dealing with "int x; x = 3; eval("int y = 4"); return x + y;" would just... ugh < 1375835641 501592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'main() { foo: int x = 3; goto foo; }\n' > a.c && gcc a.c < 1375835642 582377 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you also get into trouble if you skip over declarations or anything of the such < 1375835645 580714 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.c: In function ‘main’: \ a.c:1: error: a label can only be part of a statement and a declaration is not a statement < 1375835651 810694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'main() { foo:; int x = 3; goto foo; }\n' > a.c && gcc a.c < 1375835657 142288 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375835657 980584 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's uh, huh. < 1375835660 100551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which gccrun < 1375835661 771259 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/gccrun < 1375835670 603645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun foo: int x = 3; goto foo; < 1375835673 241172 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.g9q3g9XU/command.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/gccrun.g9q3g9XU/command.c:19: error: a label can only be part of a statement and a declaration is not a statement < 1375835703 681971 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not "dealing with" so much as "allowing" < 1375835734 980650 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun if(0) { foo: return puts("!"); } goto foo; return puts("?"); < 1375835737 920839 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​! < 1375835771 280755 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually what i expected to happen. god help me. < 1375835815 410960 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun if(0) { foo: return puts("!"); } else goto foo; return puts("?"); < 1375835818 231631 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​! < 1375835837 161932 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :goto is real great stuff < 1375835858 620684 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "unstructured" switch < 1375835872 931881 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as per duff's device & friends < 1375835887 960969 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good device < 1375835910 441365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun if (0) { foo: printf("Hello, world!\n"); return 0; }; asm goto("jmp %l0" : : : : foo); __builtin_unreachable(); } < 1375835912 292095 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.FP131YDj/command.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/gccrun.FP131YDj/command.c:19: error: expected ‘(’ before ‘goto’ \ /tmp/gccrun.FP131YDj/command.c:19: error: expected identifier or ‘*’ before ‘(’ token \ /tmp/gccrun.FP131YDj/command.c: At top level: \ /tmp/gccrun.FP131YDj/command.c:20: error: expected identifier or < 1375835915 880918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you < 1375835929 77825 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fall through is pretty useful in a switch case, sometimes. < 1375835987 471378 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun if (0) { foo: printf("Hello, world!\n"); return 0; }; asm("jmp %l0" : : : : &foo); } < 1375835989 1443 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.q8YTzgvD/command.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/gccrun.q8YTzgvD/command.c:19: error: expected string literal before ‘:’ token \ /tmp/gccrun.q8YTzgvD/command.c: At top level: \ /tmp/gccrun.q8YTzgvD/command.c:20: error: expected identifier or ‘(’ before ‘return’ \ /tmp/gccrun.q8YTzgvD/command.c:21: error: expected identi < 1375836024 881216 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it not understanding asm? < 1375836069 153499 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun --version < 1375836070 606069 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.jHMqVnVF/command.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/gccrun.jHMqVnVF/command.c:19: error: ‘version’ undeclared (first use in this function) \ /tmp/gccrun.jHMqVnVF/command.c:19: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once \ /tmp/gccrun.jHMqVnVF/command.c:19: error: for each function it appears in.) < 1375836076 41920 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcc --version < 1375836077 146276 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc (Debian 4.4.5-8) 4.4.5 \ Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO \ warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. < 1375836119 761511 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run svn co svn://gcc.gnu.org/svn/gcc/trunk < 1375836121 105465 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: svn: command not found < 1375836137 552021 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you < 1375836182 732760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fuck you < 1375836183 951883 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: fuck: not found < 1375836186 922727 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does my earlier eval thing seem reasonable to anybody < 1375836229 951538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp now rustc is dying with just "Aborted" < 1375836288 102529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some kind of infinite recursion < 1375836633 102737 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I should think of what to advance my Dungeons&Dragons character. < 1375836650 793380 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun asm("jmp *%0" : : "r" (&&foo)); printf("Hi\n"); foo: return !printf("Hello, world!\n"); < 1375836653 582255 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1375836712 313153 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun asm volatile("hlt"::); < 1375836715 402823 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault < 1375836724 982472 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the spirit. < 1375836840 622272 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun asm volatile("popcnt %%eax"::); < 1375836842 793519 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.4SBPpiHU/command.c: Assembler messages: \ /tmp/gccrun.4SBPpiHU/command.c:19: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `popcnt' < 1375836848 932659 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun asm volatile("popcnt %%eax, %%eax"::); < 1375836851 464267 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375836867 812680 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun asm volatile("vpmaddubsw %%ymm0, %%ymm0, %%ymm0"::); < 1375836869 892350 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.zJA471z5/command.c: Assembler messages: \ /tmp/gccrun.zJA471z5/command.c:19: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `vpmaddubsw' < 1375836895 932806 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun asm volatile("tzcnt %%eax, %%eax"::); < 1375836898 33252 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.bO0jCRhE/command.c: Assembler messages: \ /tmp/gccrun.bO0jCRhE/command.c:19: Error: no such instruction: `tzcnt %eax,%eax' < 1375836902 973406 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1375836965 302965 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcc -dumpmachine < 1375836966 503449 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86_64-linux-gnu < 1375836972 462581 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcc -dumpspecs < 1375836973 496929 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*asm: \ %{v:-V} %{Qy:} %{!Qn:-Qy} %{n} %{T} %{Ym,*} %{Yd,*} %{Wa,*:%*} %{m32:--32} %{m64:--64} %{!mno-sse2avx:%{mavx:-msse2avx}} %{msse2avx:%{!mavx:-msse2avx}} \ \ *asm_debug: \ %{!g0:%{gstabs*:--gstabs}%{!gstabs*:%{g*:--gdwarf2}}} %{fdebug-prefix-map=*:--debug-prefix-map %*} \ \ *asm_final: \ \ \ *asm_options: \ %{--target-help:%:print-as < 1375836977 212581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun asm("fist"); < 1375836979 222824 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.1Vv8dvIW/command.c: Assembler messages: \ /tmp/gccrun.1Vv8dvIW/command.c:19: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `fist' < 1375837008 514402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: ah yes, the good old address of label operator < 1375837029 184243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and computed goto, is that goto *expr? < 1375837036 272551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :computed goto is best goto < 1375837058 65225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :goto more like mefrom < 1375837083 94019 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -e flags -e 'model name' /proc/cpuinfo < 1375837084 492739 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :model name : UML < 1375837103 812537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs cpuid < 1375837145 472965 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.11462 < 1375837185 70254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run gccrun 'int name[12],i;for(i=0;i<3;i++){asm("cpuid":"=a"(name[4*i]),"=b"(name[4*i+1]),"=c"(name[4*i+2]),"=d"(name[4*i+3]):"a"(0x80000002+i));}puts((char*)name);' < 1375837187 723260 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 6128 < 1375837196 792905 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Just make a file called CPUID.COM" < 1375837256 973830 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I've never actually seen a non-genuine Intel processor < 1375837263 396391 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they exist somewhere < 1375837445 483454 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I have done like that, it displays something like "GenuineIntel" or whatever < 1375837456 674772 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was quoting you, even. < 1375837484 743419 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won't display the details like "AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 6128", however. < 1375837502 453479 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a good name for an operator that change a variable's value, if "define" and "set" are taken < 1375837516 273770 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was gonna go with "alter" but it kinda sucks < 1375837536 993368 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :modify? < 1375837564 453346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mutate? < 1375837591 293544 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it depends on what you mean < 1375837602 914202 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "x = 4" in C < 1375837609 643712 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not x.foo = 4) < 1375837938 716818 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1375838153 344053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normally, the problem with a web service is that it is written in standard HTML and PHP, so hackers can exploit vulnerabilities in the code. But our service is written completely in javascript, developed to provide the highest level of security available on the web. < 1375838180 775178 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kind of long as names go, don't you think < 1375838185 4234 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's buzzwordalicious. < 1375838210 45135 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is client-side JavaScript, then it isn't a proper service, isn't it? (If it is server-side JavaScript, then there can still be vulnerabilities although they are different ones. Also, HTML is client-side too.) < 1375838998 586336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: assign < 1375839051 535994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the copumpkin has returned < 1375839058 146390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi copumpkin < 1375839061 935910 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :my computer had an "accident" :) < 1375839068 537749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1375839068 956873 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or update < 1375839070 765953 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it has now been replaced and my IRC settings took a while < 1375839074 206229 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wow obvious thanks < 1375839079 796377 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes, now it's a nicer computer < 1375839091 465697 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I freaked out thinking I had lost my gpg seckey < 1375839097 946005 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then I found it on an ancient hard drive < 1375839151 746580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I keep a copy of all my secret keys under the rug. < 1375839175 257431 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :good plan < 1375839188 565566 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That's because you did 0x0, which is the code to get the CPU vendor out from cpuid. < 1375839201 437239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i am pretty sure shachaf quoted that because it was hilariously wrong (and stupid). < 1375839217 685858 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x80000002-5 are the CPU model name. < 1375839572 866837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1375839649 176296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Filboid_Studge,_the_Story_of_a_Mouse_That_Helped < 1375839757 748672 :Guest18414!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ldsjpmotrybbjwdr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1375840566 837995 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :logging in and typing xrandr commands blind \o/ < 1375840567 397867 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                           | < 1375840567 599907 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                          /| < 1375840585 748323 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes indeed. < 1375840647 928662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: devoice yrself hth < 1375840653 137966 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One huge sombre poster depicted the Damned in Hell suffering a new torment from their inability to get at the Filboid Studge which elegant young fiends held in transparent bowls just beyond their reach." amazing. < 1375840658 178037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's somehow appropriate that kmc's myndzi dudes are misaligned < 1375840669 306478 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you say that, < elliott> < 1375840674 77823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imo log in and type xhost + < 1375840677 767962 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix. your client!! < 1375840682 589354 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even mnoqy turned off the "< " < 1375840691 577720 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix it so that kmc's myndzi dudes aren't aligned < 1375840692 977711 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think not < 1375840695 587950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even shachaf turned off the "< ". < 1375840700 468865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/.$// < 1375840705 868590 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't necessarily make it broken; there is no guarantee that they would be lined up, actually. < 1375840710 948661 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they all difference < 1375840715 939141 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i turned it off but i still think it's not worth complaining over < 1375840718 827980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 makes a good point. < 1375840731 484586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: well, you're sensible (the only sensible person in this channel??) < 1375840744 869864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ais523 is sensible but he's not in this channel anymore < 1375840749 429032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :go back to #sensible < 1375840757 288894 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the irc protocol should be fixed to specify character widths < 1375840779 369111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my computer the "|" is just beneath the "l" in "blind" but you shouldn't expect anyone's computer to do anything specific such as that or not that < 1375840791 248010 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't think so. I think that isn't necessary < 1375840792 839398 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The irc protocol should forbid people from complaining about irc < 1375840818 828736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like the iOS app store! < 1375840820 375719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: did you get an answer from your brother < 1375840834 787962 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Answer to what question? < 1375840847 468137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether he's ever been here < 1375840851 539555 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :#ifappledesignedirc < 1375840870 657918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fappled < 1375840959 558218 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :iFapple < 1375841428 989662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :preordering now < 1375841610 990168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude this motherboard uses "Military Class II" components < 1375841620 29947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can totally blow you up by plugging in an S/PDIF cable < 1375841671 270059 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :missed "up" the first time I read that :/ < 1375841745 600747 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/5ba25305b4c70be6a875ebebd82446d5/tumblr_mps7wwOvyv1r7tprao1_500.jpg sorry for bad photo, but < 1375841779 540293 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :smudge proof #1 selling scratch protection < 1375841783 520331 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it can do that too < 1375841795 639123 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :military grade nano-memory technology?? what the heck is this < 1375841803 119306 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an iphone cover. < 1375841806 681015 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure this isn't some sort of joke < 1375841830 959445 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took the photo. It was from Target. < 1375841845 759430 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure it wasn't some sort of joke < 1375841856 571122 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :april fools in august < 1375841860 530346 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :august fools < 1375841864 453134 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could happen to anyone < 1375841894 879923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure target isn't some kind of joke < 1375841936 529905 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://31.media.tumblr.com/5b9a7d8e6b41d9f68495e4676af7098a/tumblr_mpsbna0AlZ1r7tprao1_500.jpg continued < 1375841966 11198 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is this like http://www.theonion.com/video/new-wearable-computer-also-sucks-your-dick,33017/ < 1375841973 340966 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZAGG® < 1375841980 630867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can. can you rotate this for me < 1375841988 314399 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just rotate it in your head < 1375841992 989943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've spent too much of my life rotating my neck to read things. < 1375842000 299717 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much of my life not getting Bike to do things for me < 1375842002 540004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: rotate your computer instead hth < 1375842011 100562 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my tech is to be able to read sideways < 1375842020 679603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: good tech can i have it < 1375842025 740453 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess rotating is easier though huh < 1375842029 460656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah like that < 1375842036 290569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist (417) < 1375842038 323176 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist (417): shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy < 1375842053 319518 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a good day < 1375842124 721094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Area Man Too Poor To Afford Movers, Too Old To Get Help From His Friends" sometimes the onion is just depressing < 1375842155 900153 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :area man...:( < 1375842195 290120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what laptop should I buy :( < 1375842214 880307 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like every thinkpad is kind of bad in 2013 < 1375842250 190455 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it more fun to think about which laptop is the best than actually having one < 1375842267 926153 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you implying!! < 1375842299 40327 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: macbook < 1375842334 61146 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ipad < 1375842358 275935 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm really happy with my X1 Carbon, except that the screen just broke :< < 1375842366 542144 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that microsoft tablet thing with the keyboard flap < 1375842370 499671 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am too stingy to afford movers and too unlikeable to get help from my friends < 1375842371 860588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh no :'( what happen < 1375842382 22628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno I just pushed it a bit and *crack* < 1375842386 492 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like no obvious source of damage < 1375842409 790036 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: maybe but probably not < 1375842425 770751 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssh uses not-much-knowledge proofs of password ownership, yes? < 1375842431 751522 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah, I don't think the X1 Carbon really meets my requirements though (my requirements are: I don't know my requirements) < 1375842439 30070 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ownership/knowership/ < 1375842450 511201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my requirements are: hugz < 1375842456 529893 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Or it can use public key crypto. < 1375842460 800504 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: then what are you doing comparing laptops, or uh, i guess you're asking other people to do that for you huh < 1375842478 890429 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugz shachaf
< 1375842481 610672 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how would you know when's the right time to say "yes"! < 1375842484 331476 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, in this case I typed a password, wondering how clearly it was sent, assuming a malicious server or something < 1375842485 173291 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: in particular, (relatively) low RAM, bad graphics (incl. resolution), seemingly very little storage? < 1375842503 842598 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much ram < 1375842509 680520 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there's only one laptop with as good resolution as the MBP retina ;) < 1375842514 90638 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: which like, it's an ultrabook so this is not terribly surprising < 1375842515 853318 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one other laptop, i mean < 1375842531 162416 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: 1080p would be "enough" < 1375842542 380944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe 1680x1050 would be enough < 1375842554 513277 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: 4-8 gigabytes on the X1 Carbon < 1375842563 195028 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's plenty < 1375842569 814100 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be happier with 12-16 for long-term purchase reasons < 1375842590 853194 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im shocked anyone would ever need a good computer < 1375842595 831902 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you plan on doing, gaming?? < 1375842603 190285 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4,5hardcore gaming??? < 1375842604 874413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :paging nortti < 1375842642 760446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :128 GB is plenty of storage elliott < 1375842693 90893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can get 256 < 1375842701 770749 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you can? < 1375842705 870819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x1-carbon/index.html doesn't list that < 1375842711 881374 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :256 would "probably" be enough < 1375842727 668486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at the T series thinkpads and they're really disappointing < 1375842744 280678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: wow i didn't know elliott was 4,4hardcore < 1375842751 481560 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe things will be better when haswell comes out < 1375842757 370472 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you better believe it < 1375842761 31365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :haswell is out hth < 1375842768 548739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*haswell hardware < 1375842771 452087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm told you should wait until october or so for haswell laptops < 1375842891 610495 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you could get like, something like what I got! and spend too much money < 1375842918 61208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what did you get < 1375842921 750264 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have resigned myself to spending too much money already < 1375843018 400509 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sager np9150? < 1375843053 2333 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good news i have a story < 1375843068 620017 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i was just a wee bike under construction my parents were thinking about what to name me < 1375843085 41624 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mom wanted to go with "elliott" but my dad didn't like it < 1375843094 580840 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you serious < 1375843096 61712 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good story < 1375843104 524105 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he got her to get her boss to say "elllliottttt" like the alien in ET every time my mom walked by < 1375843113 901027 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, got her boss to* < 1375843119 521573 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also a good story < 1375843126 650178 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so, i was not named "elliott". < 1375843137 162013 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead you were named "Bike" < 1375843154 600771 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more stories < 1375843158 471121 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is just a nom de guerre. my real name is Ike < 1375843161 289365 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if not elliott, what woulkd you be named?? are there any other names < 1375843179 191496 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see previous message < 1375843182 61413 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike "Ike" Bicycle < 1375843191 90959 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it Ike "Bike" Bicycle < 1375843194 841773 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike stories are a non-scarce resource < 1375843246 31178 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Ike "Bike" Sumayang actually < 1375843416 203983 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enough < 1375843417 672320 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375843423 581646 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye mnoqy < 1375843437 144674 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: geez, it looks like you can get a haswell i7, 765M, 15" 1080p screen, 240GB SSD, and like, 16GB RAM for ~$1300 now though right it's the UK so things probably get 10x worse < 1375843493 814260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that sounds pretty great (depending on weight and stuff), what model is that? < 1375843521 892975 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sager NP7352 apparently? < 1375843540 343599 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cheaper without the SSD and stuff, I'm just super biased because I have one -_-) < 1375843553 602160 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 6 pounds, even lighter than mine @_@ < 1375843554 34782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott also apparently wants it to weigh no more than 1.3kg or something < 1375843589 301684 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :after spending days looking at laptops that were mostly 4-5kg I felt like I had discovered the garden of eden when I found one that was only about 3 < 1375843596 982016 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is super biased because he weighs no more than 1.3 kg < 1375843605 832392 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I never said that :P < 1375843619 712372 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah I have an SSD now and don't plan to buy a computer without one if I can help it < 1375843630 421710 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: elliott's like, my size :p < 1375843640 253339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, you said it to me once. < 1375843652 181792 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway is the clevo w740su really so bad < 1375843659 131730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo find out so that you can tell me < 1375843663 201795 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are ssds nice < 1375843671 841768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually a black hole and would prefer a laptop about the size of Jupiter < 1375843678 472313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can eat it < 1375843690 391469 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :size or mass < 1375843696 673511 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes but you have to get used to there not being any ticky noises when you install stuff < 1375843802 582245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it seems like sager only sell in USD? so I guess it's just a question of how much shipping would cost < 1375843809 832776 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummm let me see if there's any UK resellers < 1375843816 591850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if they'd ship at all I guess < 1375843827 312450 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/91510-clevo-guide-v2-0-faq-reseller-info.html < 1375843837 232074 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's UK resellers < 1375843841 933105 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's also a clevo thingy? < 1375843848 12843 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sager is clevo basically <.< < 1375843853 402560 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're two different brands for the same thing < 1375843853 602556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the system76 one shachaf linked me was clevo too < 1375843868 432769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all clevo < 1375843873 58685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it more like, clevo sell laptops to people who then brand them? < 1375843883 212969 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sager is clevo's gamer/performance brand, I think? < 1375843896 302755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sager laptops are manufactured by Clevo which are also sold under many other brand names. Sager is the biggest Clevo retailer. < 1375843906 692175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sager_Notebook_Computers ) < 1375843923 92140 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you can buy things directly from Clevo and save money???? probably you have to buy in bulk or something < 1375843972 262154 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"5.) Uniqueness ("It Ain't a Dell"): Subjective to personal preference. But having a custom high-end notebook that the masses cannot identify is pretty 1337." this post is adorable < 1375843996 442307 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375844040 952273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should let you pay more to not have a numpad < 1375844058 632144 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh I wonder what the trackpads are like < 1375844108 923182 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is Nvidia Optimus the thing that gave you a ton of issues on Linux < 1375844121 252233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1375844136 512527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it works better for some people and/or with some cards, though. < 1375844141 603531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x=1; while [ -n "$x" ]; do x=$(lsmod | grep ^snd_ | awk '{print $1}' | shuf | head -1); sudo rmmod $x; done < 1375844146 483937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The binary Nvidia driver added partial Optimus support May 3, 2013 in the 319.17.[6]" at least there's that < 1375844146 684016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shockingly effective < 1375844154 924060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, I tried that. < 1375844157 752762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't work for me. < 1375844161 582448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I didn't try very hard. < 1375844177 72538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only, y'know, a couple of hours or something. < 1375844348 332947 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you might not be able to turn off optimus :/ < 1375844556 364869 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, the NP7330 looks really good. it's a 13" 1080p laptop with like, better specs than mine, and it's just 4.6 pounds < 1375844701 154153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 4.6 lbs in kg < 1375844704 523102 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.0865249 kilograms < 1375844704 723326 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.evi.com/q/convert_4.6_lbs_to_kg < 1375844704 723518 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: convert 4.6 lbs to kg - Evi < 1375844736 323685 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375845319 655526 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1375845703 884314 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375845714 814931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/0xabad1dea/status/364852927170494464 'Found in code: /* v/=radix uses less CPU clocks than v=v/radix does */ If this is ACTUALLY true, slap your compiler silly' < 1375845749 255345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: which local slang < 1375845766 145959 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Is v a floating point? < 1375845773 565106 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "bunner" < 1375845791 604892 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is v volatile? < 1375845797 304729 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is v a macro? < 1375845822 14921 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what v and radix even are here, or what compiler you are using, or what computer it is. < 1375845851 95223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never heard that < 1375845975 835156 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah that's why i said "more globally" but a friend told me, and urbandictionary backed him up, so i assume /womebody/ uses it < 1375845985 756450 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does LVM work well with GPT and stuff < 1375845989 386615 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know anything about this < 1375846000 837576 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you installed Debian with full-disk encryption on a new computer recently right < 1375846017 426871 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot believe how girly 0xabad1dea's profile is < 1375846526 536069 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if Cons is a 2-ary type constructor (* -> * -> * i guess), could ConsList (like []) be defined as fix (\self t -> Cons t self) < 1375846638 89845 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is Cons defined? < 1375846658 876353 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Cons a b = Cons a b or whatever < 1375846661 916768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so (,) < 1375846668 36512 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sure. < 1375846668 936370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: There's no place for Nil there. < 1375846675 766620 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a] = mu (\self -> Maybe (a, self)) < 1375846687 776886 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mu is basically fix. < 1375846692 16264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you'd get a stream, not a list (and you'd want a greatest fixed point, but, like, whatever). < 1375846692 996549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's least vs. upper bound stuff) < 1375846695 896820 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, least vs. greater < 1375846696 177766 :Guest18414!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wmpgzonmugbgjqkq JOIN :#esoteric < 1375846700 146659 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right ok elliott fixed it. < 1375846705 416556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/..$/, man)./ < 1375846724 406479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I need to come up with a better way of phrasing that. < 1375846735 286602 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: basically you define a list of A as the least fixed point of F(L) = 1 + A * L < 1375846743 726844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ translates to Either, 1 translates to (), * translates to (,) < 1375846754 896994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Either () (a, l) which is Maybe (a, l) < 1375846760 26510 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you can work backwards to what I said < 1375846763 377486 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like is this doable in haskell (or some type theory that is simple i gues) < 1375846768 119583 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can write: < 1375846775 187178 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Fix f = Fix { break :: f (Fix f) } < 1375846778 877088 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean y'all talk about mu but i'm pretty sure it's crazy bullshit? < 1375846783 390401 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :type List a = Fix (ListF a) < 1375846788 808280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make Fix like elliott wrote. < 1375846795 986792 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype ListF a l = ListF { listless :: Maybe (a, l) } < 1375846798 348178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also make Mu and Nu but in practice there isn't much point in Haskell. < 1375846807 983606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mu and Nu correspond to folds and unfolds.) < 1375846814 956520 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also make a bunch of functor combinator things so you could say < 1375846827 789080 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :type List a = Fix (One :+: (An a :*: Arg)) < 1375846832 607045 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't like having to define ListF < 1375846869 816620 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's An < 1375846878 736581 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :type One = An (); newtype An r a = An r {- this is Const -}; newtype (f :+: g) a = L (f a) | R (g a) < 1375846886 556651 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype (f :*: g) a = f a :*: g a < 1375846903 777152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good newtype < 1375846905 737022 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nil = Fix (L (An ()) < 1375846922 790466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cons x xs = Fix (R (An x :*: xs)) < 1375846936 189023 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this kind of thing is where the "algebraic" in "algebraic data types" comes from < 1375847013 837997 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375847027 907224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't remember clearly enough < 1375847034 948951 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I understand Const. < 1375847038 368737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian installer will configure FDE by itself < 1375847039 907934 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1375847042 357167 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375847048 267118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you miss the stuff I said < 1375847049 667264 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand thisContext < 1375847052 328204 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i had a vague idea of algebra but wasn't sure how it worked with fixpoints < 1375847053 217431 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the stuff unrelated to Const < 1375847065 147781 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: whenever i discon i check the log becaue otherwise it would be kind of unfair to people talking to me < 1375847069 330075 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Const r a = Const r < 1375847075 718235 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you not see how it's a Functor? just trying to see what the problem is < 1375847081 937217 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap :: (a -> b) -> Const r a -> Const r b < 1375847089 457309 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Const r x) is equivalent to r for any x, so this is just < 1375847092 242760 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i just < 1375847093 787992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap :: (a -> b) -> r -> r < 1375847096 888309 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a constructor in the way < 1375847100 698439 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't even understand the syntax :V < 1375847116 47218 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh is it newtype you don't know about, or < 1375847118 288256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric-overflow < 1375847119 128524 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to help!! < 1375847123 537270 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's newtype yes < 1375847126 157687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric-in-depth < 1375847129 367525 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay pretend it says data instead of newtype < 1375847133 169624 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember it being a type alias or something but i have no idea what that means < 1375847135 679498 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's exactly the same for our purposes < 1375847163 607542 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's more efficient at runtime for a type that just wraps another one (i.e. one constructor, one field) and has some dumb edge-cases with undefined/nontermination that you should try not to think about) < 1375847180 458769 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders why that isn't just done automatically
< 1375847188 347338 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: aforementioned edge-cases < 1375847195 748406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you want the indirection < 1375847204 157480 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when you have that fmap, it's actually like (a -> b) -> Const r -> Const r but Const r is equivalent to r because well obviously. < 1375847207 308259 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even (data Foo = Foo !Bar) isn't equivalent to (newtype Foo = Foo Bar) < 1375847217 807432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo just use a strict language < 1375847218 87782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because matching on the latter's Foo is irrefutable, but not the former's < 1375847226 697209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Const r a -> Const r b < 1375847229 918004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes two type paramters < 1375847232 967360 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but like < 1375847234 877895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Const r) is the functor, just like [] is a functor < 1375847242 817726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor Bike < 1375847248 667894 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind i get it < 1375847259 327462 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sorry, I didn't know whether you were being imprecise or it was part of the confusion < 1375847265 887553 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was being imprecise < 1375847270 777707 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the parameter is irrelevant but also, like, the point < 1375847278 980384 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the "= Const r" that gets me, "= r" would be more intuitive to me < 1375847285 647325 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't work with data of course < 1375847297 17327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Const on the right is a constructor, not a type. < 1375847299 877821 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :riht. < 1375847302 159207 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1375847303 217798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is confusing and so does SPJ. < 1375847307 347881 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway let me try to define the fmap. < 1375847308 628091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Const r a = TheThing { value :: r } < 1375847346 627354 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just fmap _ (Const rv) = rv < 1375847352 320093 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er no < 1375847362 714487 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap _ (Const rv) = Const rv < 1375847367 197589 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1375847422 987642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah UPS stores do 3D printing now < 1375847425 548353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a few of them) < 1375847458 167760 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: to save on shipping costs, right? < 1375847515 517878 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-223-248.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375847527 237680 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-223-248.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just sitting outside in the cool air, learnin babby's first math and pissing on routers < 1375847558 268420 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, uh < 1375847561 908996 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i implemented this fancy trigram thing < 1375847577 178372 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but searching the entire archive without it takes 0.17s < 1375847588 408142 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, trigrams are cool < 1375847610 178899 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :% time python iwc.py --search-messages '/ais[^5][^2][^3]/' < 1375847630 738944 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375847700 581104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which math < 1375847715 448357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also do you think the piss interferes with the correct functioning of the routers < 1375847719 207786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to < 1375847781 758356 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-223-248.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375847787 200129 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-248.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible, slightly possible < 1375847793 258381 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike_: basically the reason we want Const is because the functor argument to our list functor is actually the list < 1375847796 244486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :type. < 1375847797 679436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because fixpoint < 1375847811 659863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we want to ignore it for the actual value in the list and for the nil case. < 1375847861 49396 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-248.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1375848027 848851 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375848202 970571 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-248.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375848210 789439 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any recursive types that can't be rewritten into Mufuckery? < 1375848212 740075 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375848235 409152 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure the answer is no but i gotta ask all the dumb quetions < 1375848264 548652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well, that depends on what you mean by Mu. < 1375848289 199017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually you talk about the fixed point of a (covariant) functor, but Haskell lets you have negative recursion. < 1375848299 859051 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm lost. < 1375848313 399277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like data Rec a = Rec (Rec a -> a) < 1375848320 839033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recursion with something on the left side of a -> < 1375848394 109045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That lets you do all sorts of evil things, and it's usually forbidden in total languages. < 1375848471 560433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Haskell it still works out to be the same thing with Fix, I think, but you can't use any function that relies on a Functor constraint. < 1375848753 190030 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't understand any of that and i don't think i'm going to any time soon < 1375848797 830494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. I should have put it differently. < 1375848808 559848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep forgetting that you can install xmonad and xdm and firefox and still not install the X server < 1375848827 589463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what negative/positive positions, or covariant/contravariant functors, are? < 1375848835 84528 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1375849108 531645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, covariant (i.e. normal) functors are things that give you fmap :: (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1375849118 482837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contravariant functors give you contramap :: (a -> b) -> f b -> f a < 1375849187 483545 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :example? < 1375849206 550083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Op r a = Op (a -> r) < 1375849302 150862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And e.g. Predicate a = a -> Bool and so on.) < 1375849358 432162 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether unstable is better than testing these days < 1375849369 990154 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what happened to the whole rolling-release Debian plan < 1375849518 300605 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so contramap foo pred = \a -> pred (foo a) and wow i've been told this before haven't i. < 1375849592 60504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that Op r (Op r a) is covariant again. < 1375849923 494358 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "arrays of length 4" a dependent type? (or rather the constructor N -> a type like that) < 1375850015 661406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the debian unstable faq is good < 1375850016 82017 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I use sid on my server? < 1375850016 282105 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you insane? No! < 1375850030 134103 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ableism~ < 1375850410 824073 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :status: once again drinking scotch out of a mongodb mug < 1375850918 632995 :liberty__!~liberty@nc-67-233-234-45.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375851097 923370 :liberty__!~liberty@nc-67-233-234-45.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PART #esoteric :"Ex-Chat" < 1375851111 653794 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what's the sh do? randomly kill sound devices until they're all stopped? < 1375851446 213089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :removes kernel modules yeah < 1375851454 393427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause I can't be bothered to figure out the dependency graph < 1375851460 383118 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when lsmod only shows part of it seemingly < 1375851600 459851 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Forall a. [a] < 1375851601 162814 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Illegal symbol '.' in type < 1375851601 363109 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you intended -XRankNTypes or similar flag < 1375851601 363244 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : to enable explicit-forall syntax: forall . < 1375851610 227669 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k forall a. [a] < 1375851611 563102 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Illegal symbol '.' in type < 1375851611 763883 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you intended -XRankNTypes or similar flag < 1375851611 763977 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : to enable explicit-forall syntax: forall . < 1375851614 553365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://medium.com/geek-empire-1/a1ebd2b4a0e5 is a good essay. bruce fucking sterling < 1375851625 144976 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1375851646 696608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are laptops still stupid about overcharging batteries these days < 1375851663 97188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are u still stupid these days #owned < 1375851685 703598 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :( < 1375851691 843974 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cablegate is disappointing because apparently nobody's actually bothered reading the cables? some of them are pretty interesting! < 1375851707 523739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of people have read them < 1375851726 973029 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but i don't know any of those people < 1375851732 387869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do, checkmate < 1375851737 904068 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn got me < 1375851993 332218 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Julian has turned out to be a Tim Leary at the NSA’s psychiatric convention. " lol < 1375852269 309017 :neena!~neena@codesurfers.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375852495 956899 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist elevatorstuck < 1375852498 267363 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist elevatorstuck: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1375852647 798583 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375852725 805480 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375852949 598068 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375854374 849866 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375854410 408488 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375854598 13918 :douglass_!~douglass@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375855228 541490 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375855256 378048 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375855482 826916 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Not necessarily dependent. < 1375855494 881981 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1375855509 121659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, is N a runtime value? < 1375855558 459067 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i see. < 1375856325 316763 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375856709 327660 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375857041 844623 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375858254 708911 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there the compiler C program into Dalvik VM? < 1375858335 529118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Anyway, the thing I was saying was about fixed points of covariant functors vs. other types. < 1375858347 800558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You run into some strange things with fixed points of other types. < 1375858520 840559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular Fix (Op a) is ""weird curry's paradox type"" < 1375858699 936379 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1375859433 717324 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fix (Op a) is g = g -> a, sorta? so fix? (which makes everything inhabited or whatever) < 1375859512 924342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's newtype Rec a = Rec (Rec a -> a) < 1375859526 962989 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so yes) < 1375859532 193515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1375859557 693033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :To the first part, anyway. I'm not sure what the rest means? < 1375859572 571783 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither < 1375859604 933624 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about how fix existing means all types have something in them which means everything is true in curry-howard and a type theorist comes around to my house and smashes up my windows < 1375859652 960858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can use this type to write fix, but I'm not what you have in mind. < 1375859691 989940 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not what i have in mind either < 1375859708 374802 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, _|_ is what corresponds to using Curry's paradox to prove anything. < 1375860110 799405 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375860213 725647 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could trick the type theorist into believing that your house is uninhabited. < 1375860927 464175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I saw a thing to compile C to JVM via MIPS, presumably you could feed that into the Dalvik compiler < 1375860935 422958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you can also run C code natively on most android devices < 1375860949 587934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you have to compile it first < 1375860960 45004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hey compile it with emscripten and then run it in Rhino < 1375860960 45189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many ways < 1375860986 203468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just boxes and arrows < 1375860993 794055 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think native code is only supported on android newer than 1.5 < 1375861094 599290 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375861503 656553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written some C programs and maybe if someone want to work it in Android too, such as the "Aimfiz" Z-machine interpreter, is meant for SDL but maybe someone can port to Android since I think Aimfiz is the least buggy Z-machine interpreter as far as I can see (tell me if you do find a bug). < 1375862800 335799 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375864015 442289 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375864092 222987 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375865624 475766 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a generic port for SDL stuff on Android; things like OpenTTD, Ur-Quan Masters and such run on it. < 1375865745 830737 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It does need native code suppot.) < 1375865925 612954 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the NDK is sufficiently good and supported that people haven't really spent time on turning C to Dalvik bytecode; the few "Dalvik backend for LLVM" projects I can see seem quite dead. < 1375866005 384476 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375866989 766049 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1375867008 69302 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375870736 407519 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :``I'm The 14-Year-Old Who Wrote The "Jesus Isn't A Dick So Keep Him Out of My Vagina" Sign In Texas And Was Labeled A "Whore" By Strangers Online'' < 1375870740 759734 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `I'm: not found < 1375870883 118021 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Maybe then it helps, if someone wants to play a Z-machine game on Android using the Aimfiz interpreter engine instead of some other one. With a keyboard you might even work it without a lot of changes, but if you don't have a keyboard then you will need to put an on-screen keyboard, and the "mouse menus" (of Z-code v5) might be helpful too. < 1375870946 502687 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1375870990 1167 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I have absolutely no idea how the Z-machine version 5 mouse menus are supposed to work; the only things I know is this: There are four menus called the directions menu, inventory menu, frequent verbs menu, and frequent words menu. The extension table contains pointers to tables corresponding to these menus, and there is a bitfield to indicate of the menu has been changed. < 1375871013 39797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The format of these tables is unknown. < 1375871652 342574 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375871662 21017 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi there < 1375871670 57308 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is deciode here? < 1375871689 673835 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello. I don't know "deciode", sorry < 1375871697 852136 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it you wanted? < 1375871765 755556 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry for da panic... he made a port of MSM implementation to Ruby, then suggested a new operator, then _suddenly_ disappeared when I implemented what he asked for :) < 1375871771 607585 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and didn't update his port < 1375871819 567324 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what to do about that, but you could mention that on the esolang wiki too < 1375871823 854369 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/MSM < 1375871834 483361 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see Discussion page < 1375871858 829897 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I did mention it in See Also, that his port is incomplete < 1375871861 545668 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already have that open. < 1375871933 40723 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you post your implementation on there? < 1375871946 145104 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did < 1375871967 486034 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/MSM#Implementations - both are mine < 1375871986 31968 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/plugnburn/6150089- this is the reference one < 1375871995 588245 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/plugnburn/6150089 < 1375872013 77745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1375872194 192269 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I write down things about dreams I have had and what others have told me. Someone once told me his dream where the doctor asked him if he had ever been to the moon, he answered no, and then the doctor asked him to prove it; the doctor couldn't help him if he could not prove that he has never been to the moon. < 1375872293 162640 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice :) someone told me Underload is Turing-complete but I can't yet prove MSM is Turing complete by translating its code to Underload. Is there a doctor that can help me? :) < 1375872341 965565 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they are a doctor of esoteric programming, then maybe. < 1375872394 534939 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, gonna go, have a nice day < 1375872424 808347 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1375872431 274617 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PART :#esoteric < 1375873372 162088 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375873451 885024 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :JSON or s-expressions? You better brush up both ;-) < 1375873472 780722 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/ICFPContest2013 < 1375873509 476913 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am traouble with s-expression, guys what comes after left bananna ? < 1375873810 808752 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m not sure you can really do anything about that, just accept the feeling of imbalance. < 1375874578 314937 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375875476 445765 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375875988 656072 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The Android version of SDL includes a built-in onscreen keyboard for keyboardless devices, I believe. < 1375877702 18608 :BlueShark!BlueShark@unaffiliated/blueshark NICK :KrahSeulB < 1375877709 167388 :KrahSeulB!BlueShark@unaffiliated/blueshark NICK :BlueShark < 1375878882 104369 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375879535 32641 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375879552 58684 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375879568 121403 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1375880224 489647 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375880256 880759 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ff23 morning! < 1375880294 570781 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :still stuck in boston < 1375880301 681209 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could get a car if there were a driver < 1375880361 859107 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375880389 291075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375880389 678108 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KBOS < 1375880390 20023 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KBOS 071254Z 15005KT 10SM BKN250 21/16 A3019 RMK AO2 SLP221 T02060161 < 1375880440 604036 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: why not enjoy the weather? the nice food courts? the new england accent? < 1375880454 211174 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would enjoy the weather more on the trail, hiking < 1375880458 263156 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i am tired of city < 1375880468 740002 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a pleasant high for the day tho < 1375880586 436663 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely, for an outdoor activity, it's difficult to go hiking without a car. < 1375882008 834390 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHAAAAAARGH! I don't have time to read the new Monad Reader issue! but the temptation is strong... < 1375882013 979202 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :must resist... < 1375882018 240071 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill read it for you < 1375882219 174655 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :first two articles are old hat and 3rd it too complicated to bother reading < 1375882435 565863 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have to feel the old hattery by myself, and the be surrounded by warm and fuzzy complexification! < 1375882475 815299 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this need, nay, this gaping hole in my heart that can only be filled by a floating spacesuit stuffed with oranges and apples. < 1375883284 37915 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, the first article is meh. < 1375883822 355439 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375885376 175070 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1375885445 788966 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1375885446 238420 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 071400Z 14008KT 30SM SCT055 BKN075 BKN240 22/14 A3006 RMK SC4AC2CI1 SLP179 DENSITY ALT 800FT < 1375886245 828267 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375886272 281704 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375886407 149969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1375886433 809463 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oerjan < 1375887125 374999 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375887825 486175 :impomatic!~john_metc@81-178-154-68.dsl.pipex.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375888270 555150 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a way out of boston! < 1375888276 904316 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dances with boily
< 1375888336 99390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, you're moving to SF? < 1375888344 278974 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel danced... < 1375888355 491458 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish < 1375888409 932477 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this song is strangely catchy < 1375888524 678616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375888586 374332 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375889220 814934 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tinysubversions.com/stuff/thisJustIn/ < 1375889575 154158 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375890034 340422 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375891029 67603 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1375891746 314428 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375891754 774761 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1375891772 391762 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-172-180.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375892051 742327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you sometimes have dream where you are a different person and/or a different species? < 1375892069 479077 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-172-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375892171 900672 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dreams are boring. there's no sound, no people, no movement, and I tend to do nothing in still places. < 1375892265 230796 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds kinda boring, yeah < 1375892405 317798 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the Android version of SDL include a on-screen keyboard for keyboardless devices, well, still might it be useful to customize it? Does it include to customize the on-screen keyboard? (For example, to include the Z-machine keys, and other things, like in Aimfiz you use CTRL+T to select the transcript slot and CTRL+L for scrollback, etc, and it can also change depending on context) < 1375892438 298808 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-172-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually type letters on my android phone, i use the swipey thing < 1375892460 715325 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-172-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i think would work fine for an adventure game... < 1375892482 487125 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swipe, swipe, swipe the monsters < 1375892491 173930 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swiftly out of the screeeeeeeen < 1375892551 4839 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, you might need functions keys, and sometimes it is single-key input and sometimes full-line input, sometimes timed, and there are some control functions in Aimfiz too... < 1375892633 894981 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-172-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have virtual buttons, like all the game machine emulators < 1375892683 209824 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably customizing the on-screen keyboard to have those functions would help it; if you have a physical keyboard with all the necessary keys then you don't need those < 1375892699 574735 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-172-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's it have to be part of the keyboard? < 1375892746 887195 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose, so that you can hide it together with the rest of the keyboard, and so that if you have a physical keyboard then you can use that instead. < 1375892821 280361 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, that is what I would think it would be. < 1375892828 772862 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think it would be otherwise? < 1375892836 17490 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd go crazy trying to play interactive fiction games on my phone < 1375892917 296342 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might, too (I don't have a cell phone; I make computer stuff on computer instead), but some people would like to be able to play this game on a Android phone/tablet. < 1375892970 340878 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are already some Z-machine interpreters for such device but they are buggy software and you might want to port the Aimfiz interpreter engine which seems to be more accurate. < 1375893073 340399 :Lumpio-!~matti@250.ip-46-105-18.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375893413 132559 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Current version of the 'postgresql' metapackage (it depends on the supported PostgreSQL version, currently 9.1) in debian-unstable: "9.3+142really9.1+146". < 1375893547 602818 :Lumpio-!~matti@250.ip-46-105-18.eu QUIT :Quit: splut sprellas < 1375893630 658367 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1375893637 790647 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's nice < 1375893655 838058 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1375893761 760206 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Why < 1375893791 694940 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I don't know, but I'm sure it's some sort of versioning mishap combined with "can't make version numbers smaller" thing. < 1375893815 105758 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :apt doesn't have anything like an epoch? < 1375893892 263769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We only give the most basic definitions of categories, functors, and natural transformations. For a gentler introduction, with more details and examples, see e.g. Mac Lane [29]. < 1375893957 532699 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It does; that'd be something like 1:9.1+146, which, admittedly, would look nicer. < 1375893964 275851 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If there's no colon, the epoch is zero.) < 1375893997 689958 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, yes?? < 1375893998 931321 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375894008 887459 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they're planning to make 9.3 the supported version in unstable/testing anyway soon-enough, and didn't want to bump up the epoch. Who knows. < 1375894028 804465 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1375894051 53462 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1375894065 729376 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just want their mistake to be forgotten instead of being forever encoded as the epoch. < 1375894141 877258 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could they put a feature of temporary epoch? < 1375894144 542930 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yeah, they'd avoid an epoch if it was just to work around a temporary bug. < 1375894165 35254 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The epochs are just a string property of version numbers, there's no meaning to "temporaryness" of them. < 1375894266 383766 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-172-180.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375894305 346312 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-199-215.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375894708 872725 :ssue__!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hmxoferhhshgerjn JOIN :#esoteric < 1375894750 409226 :ssue__!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hmxoferhhshgerjn NICK :ssue < 1375895429 233666 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375895512 773012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I meant if they would add such a feature to the package manager, so that there is also another kind of temporary epoch as well. < 1375895942 640127 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what does "temporary" mean? You don't want for it to be temporary in time, because a version which is numerically lower should FOREVER be newer than a version which is numerically higher, but also older than a different version which is numerically higher. < 1375896048 313844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unable to start X session --- no '~/.xsession' file, no '~/.Xsession' file, no session managers, no window managers, and no terminal emulators found; aborting." Such a desperate-sounding error. < 1375896063 18055 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you would have to specify what version it overrides; sometimes a version overrides another one, such as if a new version is made up but you need an old version to override it, or for another reason; an explicit "override" section might do. < 1375896289 469629 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then you need all relevant versions (the global ordering) to create a local ordering, or you need for the version to specify EVERY version it overrides, which could include versions by third parties or not in the repo. e.g. 9.3+142really9.1+146 presumably also overrides 9.2+whatever, but it didn't need to specify that because 9.3+142 is numerically greater than 9.2+whatever. < 1375896516 861427 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375896606 383280 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-199-215.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375896696 997312 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375896716 369304 :ka7la!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375896859 214227 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375897207 110276 :ka7la!~katla@unaffiliated/katla NICK :katla < 1375897377 860940 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh, this thing has the thing where altgr-space generates U+00a0 (a non-break space), and I keep typing it after every | because | here comes from altgr-[the key with <, > and |] and then it's all "bash: $'\302\240less': command not found". < 1375897437 901201 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where "the thing" = xkb_symbols configuration. < 1375897463 980503 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ...disable it < 1375897535 523865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: finnish keyboard layout? < 1375897661 879057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Do you happen to know if I can easily setxkbmap it dead? (I've been trying out a life without a desktop environment lately.) < 1375897675 155421 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375897683 905487 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it < 1375897689 26272 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :im excited about icfp < 1375897705 458823 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really want to see what the goal is < 1375897732 260182 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't know about "easily" but you can make a copy of the symbols file and make the change and setxkbmap | xkbcomp that < 1375897773 757081 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll do something like that. < 1375897779 332346 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: My sincere suggestion: the US International (AltGr dead keys) layout. It’s great. < 1375897841 755047 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I need food < 1375897894 782645 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have ready access to freshly made bánh mì near our offices. < 1375897935 221114 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :good for you < 1375898360 381756 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1375898362 405303 :ka7la!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375898618 244453 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375898742 747734 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375898795 516875 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote `relcome sacje < 1375898798 811619 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375898806 853589 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome sacje < 1375898810 159727 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​10sacje:06 Welcome to th13e03 i09nternat11ion09al hub for10 08esote08ri05c program05ming langu12age desig04n08 and05 de03ployme12nt! F10o07r more i06nf07or14matio06n, check05 10out our wiki: http://esola05ngs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (04For the12 other kind of esoterica, try10 #esot09eric on irc.da09l.13net.) < 1375898824 223613 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks boily < 1375898829 19125 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thank boily < 1375898830 184885 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: thank: not found < 1375898836 297904 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, worth a shot < 1375898839 595450 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks boily < 1375898840 935994 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, boily. Thoily. < 1375898845 115727 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375898847 519473 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1375898852 342979 :ka7la!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks HackEgo < 1375898853 845233 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, HackEgo. ThackEgo. < 1375898870 420161 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hi HackEgo < 1375898871 636455 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: hi: not found < 1375898995 220355 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -re 's/\/H/; s/\/H/' bin/hi && chmod +x bin/hi && cat bin/hi < 1375898999 388307 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl \ $_ = (join " ", @ARGV) || `words`; s/^\s+|\s+$//g; print "Hi $_. "; if (/[aeiouy]/) { s/^[^aeiouy]*/H/; } else { s/^./H/; } print "$_."; < 1375899008 478620 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hi HackEgo < 1375899009 860052 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi HackEgo. HackEgo. < 1375899083 977256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: You should make bin/þanks < 1375899102 211672 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no u < 1375899159 772553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no þx < 1375899235 390747 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hi carcinogens < 1375899236 481666 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi carcinogens. Harcinogens. < 1375899271 328957 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i -re 's/aeiouy/aeiouyAEIOUY/g' bin/thanks bin/hi && cat bin/thanks < 1375899274 708178 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl \ $_ = (join " ", @ARGV) || `words`; s/^\s+|\s+$//g; print "Thanks, $_. "; if (/[aeiouyAEIOUY]/) { s/^[^aeiouyAEIOUY]*/Th/; } else { s/^./T/; } print "$_."; < 1375899287 225241 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The i flag would have worked, too, but whatever. < 1375899308 704792 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks < 1375899311 389714 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hi GUYS < 1375899312 446403 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi GUYS. HUYS. < 1375899313 611222 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, therery. Therery. < 1375899401 959132 :ka7la!~katla@unaffiliated/katla NICK :katla < 1375899462 674177 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hi  < 1375899464 54006 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi . H. < 1375899494 468438 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :therery??? < 1375899507 414920 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hi Hi < 1375899508 851127 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Hi. Hi. < 1375899509 773947 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375899526 573609 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :im too excited about icfp < 1375899528 435093 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1375899532 82437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: it should support vowels in other languages < 1375899532 363658 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat icfp < 1375899533 811994 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: icfp: No such file or directory < 1375899539 411030 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? icfp < 1375899539 653759 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :as soon as i find out what its about ill stop carig < 1375899541 13899 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :icfp? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1375899541 276710 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a [[:vowely:]] < 1375899541 508560 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1375899541 743279 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         º¯`\o < 1375899571 140809 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, the new IOCCC sizing tool counts keywords as 1 character. < 1375899576 420309 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's no benefit to #defining them away. < 1375899579 96141 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/urandom > dog < 1375899579 572703 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: go look at some Java. it will help you feel better. < 1375899580 274812 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /dev/urandom > dog: No such file or directory < 1375899581 242022 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah. Too bad there’s no “vowel” character class. I guess we could use Unidecode and then match against its result. < 1375899590 772006 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1375899616 568764 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Shakespear < 1375899618 78452 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :884) what is this set? sounds like shakespear Yes, that's what people often say about Chrono Trigger. < 1375899619 631340 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT < 1375899623 727435 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1375899627 301818 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that was surprising < 1375899641 505435 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote cat < 1375899643 35818 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :105) what's the data of? [...] Locations in a now deceased game called Mutation I have no problems with you being interested in online games but the necrophilia is disturbing \ 113) CakeProphet: reading herbert might be enlightening in one hand he held a long worm can be greased. twice i got it nearly th < 1375899665 473506 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1375899670 455299 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Locations < 1375899672 518184 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Took at while < 1375899697 227799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote kitten < 1375899698 683438 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :756) i once had a dream when i was told to look after some kittens but they were made of chocolate and i ate them :( < 1375899712 724238 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote `quote < 1375899714 288748 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :310) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something thankfully only one \ 311) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something \ 407) `quote django < 1375899732 41725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quine < 1375899732 268601 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote `quote `quote < 1375899733 361919 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375899735 263972 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`quote `quote `quote < 1375899745 67197 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1375899746 411350 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.c \ a.out \ bi \ bin \ canary \ delvs \ delvs-master \ etc \ factor \ hi-bool.bf \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ multiply.bf \ no \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom < 1375899753 613231 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 407 < 1375899755 233942 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :407) The Russian's emblem was the hammer and sickle, not the fist and other fist < 1375899761 20105 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh =P < 1375899762 379714 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1375899763 170345 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh < 1375899768 703094 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha < 1375899770 120152 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cd karma < 1375899771 222572 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cd: not found < 1375899774 332957 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww =P < 1375899776 230886 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 311 < 1375899777 798427 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :311) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something \ 407) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something thankfully only one thankfully only two < 1375899785 344261 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls karma < 1375899786 979096 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma < 1375899791 951543 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow confusin imo < 1375899798 305810 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat karma < 1375899799 673016 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregoR now has 1 karma. < 1375899805 934486 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_0 < 1375899807 43178 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sensible. < 1375899814 22755 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/karma < 1375899815 360067 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo "$1 has $(lib/karma "$1") karma." < 1375899817 479620 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what you meant, probably < 1375899835 208223 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, why is it in lib. < 1375899841 499449 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there seems to be a karma, erm, thing in the root? < 1375899849 268201 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat lib/karma < 1375899850 893495 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ count () { \ hg log --template '{desc}\n' | \ egrep '<[^]]*> karma\'$1 | \ fgrep -vix "<$2> karma$1 $2" | \ cut -d' ' -f3 | \ fgrep -cix "$2" \ } \ plus=$(count + "$1") \ minus=$(count - "$1") \ echo $(($plus-$minus)) < 1375899864 699260 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i love how horrible everything about these things are < 1375899896 23059 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably the file in the root is just there by mistake. < 1375899896 868730 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch god < 1375899899 103081 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1375899900 624858 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375899903 823606 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch dog < 1375899906 992463 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375899908 723678 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm karma < 1375899908 987757 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat dog < 1375899911 817126 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375899913 950368 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375900072 121543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot how cute lib/karma is < 1375900098 575191 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/null < 1375900099 982952 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375900121 756386 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck karma < 1375900122 252191 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Karma in Indian religions is the concept of "action" or "deed", understood as that which causes the entire cycle of cause and effect. < 1375900169 247207 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duck Karma is gained by being gentle with your corkscrew penis. < 1375900262 273483 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog kmc.*essay < 1375900296 318411 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.15627 < 1375900338 600934 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1375900345 831325 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot pls play that shit game again < 1375900346 145961 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was a conversation < 1375900354 301508 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was like "NOTHING FOLLOWS" < 1375900360 186330 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"WHY DON'T I UNDERSTAND" < 1375900419 262452 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: I'm traumatised by it < 1375900424 613445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have to forget about it before I can play again < 1375900428 883763 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but it's been like weeks < 1375900434 603530 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha ok < 1375900435 796029 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot about it for sure. < 1375900438 62745 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if you played it < 1375900440 376437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would understand < 1375900446 912541 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would i ever play it? < 1375900533 295528 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the boink are we talking about... < 1375900544 238895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dot Action 2, greatest game in the universe < 1375900552 699677 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://offgao.no-ip.org/game/dotact2/ < 1375900615 480187 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no. no no no no no no. that thing is still alive? < 1375900716 317826 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as there is evil in the hearts of humanity, it will live < 1375900865 813302 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit < 1375900872 595543 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That floor is electrified or something < 1375900898 329689 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's lava. anyone who tells you it isn't lava is a cretin < 1375900911 627568 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright < 1375900935 667614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the grey stuff is water < 1375900961 724404 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That I understood < 1375900977 323497 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :After getting elec^H^H^H^Hburnt to a crisp < 1375900977 571393 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's electricity < 1375900983 70370 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says so in the instructions. < 1375900995 593701 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even offgao can be wrong. < 1375901002 957352 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes "Lumpio- is a cretin" in his notes
< 1375901010 605819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is unreasonable to expect him to understand his own game. dot action 2 is bigger than any of us < 1375901086 33013 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :.__. < 1375901171 100958 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the FM music though < 1375901172 741239 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot < 1375901794 286261 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1375901809 464927 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375901840 137311 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375901849 463761 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo NICK :LimeJaune < 1375901877 812821 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :BleuetBleu < 1375901917 223206 :BleuetBleu!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LimeJaune: j'aurais bien voulu avoir pris CitronVert, mais il semblerait qu'un autre tarlan que moi en soit l'utilisateur courant. < 1375901933 804381 :LimeJaune!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup =P < 1375901936 664903 :LimeJaune!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the joke =P < 1375901941 423292 :BleuetBleu!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aurgh. < 1375901941 703235 :LimeJaune!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :#electrolab < 1375901994 4961 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not understand it in French very well. < 1375902023 275372 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a tarlan? < 1375902058 275601 :LimeJaune!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moron =P < 1375902079 825631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :LimeJaune: Hey, all he did was ask a question! That's not nice. < 1375902101 353738 :LimeJaune!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1375902149 74201 :LimeJaune!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo NICK :Roujo < 1375902189 704472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Who are you, anyway? Whence do you know oerjan? < 1375902263 568247 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a whence? < 1375902269 495477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"from where" < 1375902272 304808 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh ^^ < 1375902276 873796 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :##nomic < 1375902282 284737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1375902353 887579 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl a b c = map ((flip d) c) b < 1375902356 994226 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = id (fix (const (flip (map . flip d)))) < 1375902357 194882 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue. < 1375902375 24308 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks sensible < 1375902398 944059 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl-resume < 1375902404 947627 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = id (fix (const (flip (map . flip d)))) < 1375902405 150505 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue. < 1375902408 975845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh, did I mention @pl? < 1375902418 683540 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dern < 1375902431 264715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf@carbon:~$ pointfree 'a b c = map ((flip d) c) b' < 1375902431 465246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = flip (map . flip d) < 1375902431 665670 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did it put "id" at the front? < 1375902432 234104 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1375902460 507743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That is better. < 1375902472 248817 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: elliott probably knows about @pl already < 1375902487 394505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but we were talking about what recently broke in lambdabot. < 1375902504 344176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: @pl initially compiles Haskell code using a very direct process to a point-free form and then optimizes it by e.g. eliminating "id". < 1375902523 13390 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375902527 936739 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it make like that though? It didn't eliminate "id", and it did other things too. < 1375902550 584801 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's broken right now. I don't know why. < 1375902667 878501 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl f x = id x < 1375902668 79576 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :f = id < 1375902672 369084 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl f x = id (id x) < 1375902672 569975 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :f = id < 1375902681 253927 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't know? that's not very helpful < 1375902752 704866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i never said it was helpful hth < 1375902786 545984 :BleuetBleu!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :boily < 1375902807 910240 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does hth mean? < 1375902829 98076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope that helped < 1375902833 525212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1375902835 817362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope that helps < 1375902838 874144 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool ^^ < 1375902842 583225 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks =) < 1375902863 724202 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually read it as happy to help < 1375902901 342919 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because I think that goes better with completely unhelpful statements) < 1375902904 667579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1375902906 334856 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1375902952 816145 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>okay.png < 1375903070 737067 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION draws a bahth
< 1375903131 915006 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do mehth kids < 1375903154 713921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4d8+20 < 1375903154 957065 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 21 + 20 => 41 < 1375903162 148794 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's bad for your teehth) < 1375903191 795371 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dice 4 8 < 1375903192 906225 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: dice: not found < 1375903196 524310 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice 4 8 < 1375903196 724445 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 1 2 4 3 2 3 4 --- Sum = 22 < 1375903264 720850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FurryScript also includes dice function, including such feature as drop-lowest and glitch. If you have PHP then maybe you can even install it on the IRC too. < 1375903303 250175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1d3 < 1375903303 492638 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 3 < 1375903345 206944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: liar < 1375903431 981065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1375903886 904991 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375904013 585850 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375904039 282675 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375904082 218606 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice 3 < 1375904082 456938 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 --- Sum = 1 < 1375904144 555202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1d(1d4) < 1375904184 604857 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what is the expected value of a Xd(YdZ) throw? < 1375904279 87516 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375904379 775519 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375904383 150355 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375904430 674456 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: oh hai! while you're there, would you kindly answer to the The Question, namely what are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? as a bonus, you'll even surpass Bike as the first Glorious Entry in my file. < 1375904524 519101 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a creepy thing to ask a person. < 1375904549 256834 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like the kind of questions one asks on Grindr. < 1375904598 466862 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck grindr < 1375904598 667880 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grindr is a geosocial networking application geared towards gay, bisexual, and bi-curious men. < 1375904638 775773 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. uhm. in my capacity as a Certified Canadian, I truthfully attest that I'm not creepy. < 1375904664 556608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: For 1d(1dX) it should be (X+2)/3 or something like that? < 1375904688 336018 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I can also bribe you with a box of timbits. < 1375904703 55588 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what timbits are... < 1375904709 725990 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless they're bits of people named Tim. < 1375904733 685707 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily really, really ~really~ needs to know the centroid of esoteric < 1375904736 965851 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which just places you in the snuff version of Grindr. < 1375904779 173583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that's not right. < 1375904803 875883 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: timbits are donut holes from tim hortons. a traditional Canadian delicacy (that is actually edible, contrary to salmiakki). < 1375904815 927238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I do. < 1375904822 904224 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: once he finds it he's going to get there whatever it takes and set up his base. < 1375904829 106274 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the scheming begins. < 1375904841 605804 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be powered by the magnetic force of all the esoteric around it < 1375904841 806652 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no idea about the dice dice throw. I suck at probs. and stats., so that's why I asked you the question. < 1375904858 726189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's why I gave you a nonsense answer. < 1375904879 45666 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION duck tapes elliott to mute him. “Hush! Don't reveal my plans!”
< 1375904965 368174 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or he's trying to like < 1375904974 815654 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :play subset-sum with our weights < 1375904983 486089 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"find a group of #esoteric members whose weights sum to 350kg" < 1375905004 116748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean their weighs? < 1375905005 687951 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live in Indiana and weigh 15 tons. < 1375905018 388672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You left SF? :-( < 1375905024 946453 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It was an internship. < 1375905032 336126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1375905034 36008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still. < 1375905045 114174 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor are you a tractor trailer < 1375905068 385896 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I'm an American and I'm just BIG BONED. < 1375905083 195672 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor has neutronium bones < 1375905275 536551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: So the expected value of 1d(1dX) is actually (X+3)/4, I guess. < 1375905440 98812 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375905494 946995 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375905559 537220 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome eitow < 1375905561 816638 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​03eitow:10 Welc14ome02 to05 th08e 06inter04national 11h11ub for eso11teric prog06ra03mmin03g langu03age de13sig03n and deployment! For m11ore informa06tion, check o08ut08 our02 12wiki07:07 h03ttp:/03/esolangs.or07g/wiki/Main_Page.07 (For the other kind of esoterica, t13r04y #esoteric on 13irc.dal.net.) < 1375905563 919449 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375905580 916581 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: subset-summing #esoteric sounds like an interesting idea. < 1375905837 371043 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm the kind of person to just wing this kind of problem into matlab/octave and brute force through multiple tries. < 1375905847 977653 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess there's a reason I became an engineer) < 1375905952 821590 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1375906137 907144 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375906180 955119 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375906304 488844 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375906337 316893 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375906452 97694 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 PART :#esoteric < 1375906749 438800 :|_!~ddd@115.254.89.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375907193 591036 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a fixed point of scheme eval that isn't a constant or self-referencing? < 1375907262 930517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to make PulseAudio do this thing I want it to do? < 1375907273 928542 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this thing? < 1375907390 388795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"die in a fire" < 1375907407 818725 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess bottom, if you count that < 1375907417 769948 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an USB soundcard where the volume control's dB levels (as seen by the ALSA driver) bear no resemblance to reality; in particular, it's completely muted up to a point, and then uncomfortably loud after that. It used to be so that I could just keep the card's mixer control fixed to that just-about-audible-and-loud, and compensate by lowering the per-app volumes (dynamic range is for ... < 1375907421 738683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's ""different"" in a strict language < 1375907424 248902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... wimps), but apparently modern Pulse merges the volume controls with a super-clever mechanism, where it takes the required adjustment and applies it... well, just read http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/PulseAudioStoleMyVolumes/ < 1375907427 398723 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah i know < 1375907442 396369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know you know < 1375907450 808932 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woa < 1375907473 848384 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says that I can disable the cleverness by a "control=" parameter to module-alsa-sink, but I haven't figured out any sensible way to apply that, esp. automagically to a single device that comes and goes. < 1375907503 179988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And anyway I don't know if it would accept a "none" setting that'd make it not touch the wonky hardware volume control but just approximate with software.) < 1375907515 689036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pulse audio ate my balls < 1375907531 969319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should just go with JACK, but that's so "pro". < 1375907581 157318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't have a real sound card. And all the JACK stuff is so Qt. < 1375907614 164626 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apparently the "standard" way to do persistent per-application setups in JACK is with QjackCtl Patchbay.) < 1375907615 193256 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered replacing your sound software with piping everything to /dev/snd < 1375907625 361324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. < 1375907627 710537 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :patchbay is pretty nice, actually. < 1375907630 728979 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: _|_ is a fixed point of all functions in a strict language < 1375907655 770482 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there probably isn't one, if you don't count bottom < 1375907675 130711 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375907690 885990 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how Bike defines constant < 1375907701 360853 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might define constant as "something that evaluates to itself", which makes Bike's statement trivial < 1375907707 458550 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you can write quines < 1375907713 98699 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything that's "self-evaluating?" < 1375907715 901622 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant not a cons or symbol. < 1375907728 658564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :((lambda (x) (list x (list 'quote x))) '(lambda (x) (list x (list 'quote x)))) < 1375907736 70072 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should evaluate to itself < 1375907751 940886 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right. < 1375907759 817564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text$ap(++)show"text$ap(++)show" < 1375907760 840934 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : text$ap(++)show"text$ap(++)show" < 1375907780 290547 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375907787 829009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1375907794 478498 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumb question bike < 1375907804 438460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's p. mean < 1375907804 914483 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi shachaf < 1375907805 969716 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ap(++)show"ap(++)show" < 1375907807 29004 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "ap(++)show\"ap(++)show\"" < 1375907820 818395 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be mean to Bike < 1375907828 998533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :==kmc < 1375907845 549102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't think of quines either < 1375907894 306318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the definition of a quine, isn't it < 1375907901 139317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm i guess «5» is a quine < 1375907903 768721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring quine < 1375907924 564070 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(quote (quote (quote (quote ...)))) is cooler anyway < 1375908066 552450 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1375908099 259373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome clog < 1375908101 749051 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​05clog: Welcome t02o the international hub for e14soteric02 p05rogr02amming language desig04n and deployment! Fo12r mor05e07 infor04mation, ch02ec06k o13ut12 our wiki: http://esola06ngs.or08g/wiki11/Mai11n_P07age. (F03or 11t04he other 10ki14nd 12of e03sot13erica05, try #esoteric on irc14.da09l06.net.) < 1375908139 633605 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :««lambda «x» «list x «list 'quote x»»» '«lambda «x» «list x «list 'quote x»»»» < 1375908183 170831 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo use “” < 1375908189 955748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :“best lisp” < 1375908190 239583 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo use 「」. < 1375908227 919487 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought of kiforget's theorem but forgot how to relevantly apply it < 1375908231 120663 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, you could always use sha- and -chaf. htnqh. < 1375908253 608833 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: oh that i was thinking about the other day actually < 1375908267 189975 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather, how different combinatory calculi would work with infinite strings < 1375908292 658733 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski of kkkkkkk... is itself, but with sss... i'm not sure, besides that the first letter is still s < 1375908312 280902 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :````... is just bupkis, i dunno < 1375908313 590374 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ```...: not found < 1375908322 509160 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame < 1375908429 670195 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that s(s(s(s(... < 1375908442 562963 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ran it for a little while and then got bored < 1375908467 459539 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ...(((ss)s)s)s < 1375908480 489402 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kleen. why did i think it was klein? blugh < 1375908484 999202 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kleene rather < 1375908552 89356 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿¿lambda ¿x? ¿list x ¿list 'quote x??? '¿lambda ¿x? ¿list x ¿list 'quote x???? < 1375908589 320391 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (\x -> generalCategory x == InitialQuote) ['\0'..] < 1375908590 900770 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\171\8216\8219\8220\8223\8249\11778\11780\11785\11788\11804\11808" < 1375908593 960022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text $ filter (\x -> generalCategory x == InitialQuote) ['\0'..] < 1375908595 549879 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : «‘‛“‟‹⸂⸄⸉⸌⸜� < 1375908601 599579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ff < 1375908606 240543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does not look quite right......................... < 1375908608 610675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fffffffffffffffff < 1375908609 30 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1375908616 329778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KSFO < 1375908616 871487 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSFO 071956Z 23010G14KT 10SM FEW015 BKN022 19/11 A3011 RMK AO2 SLP195 T01940111 < 1375908635 380249 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: finally, a lisp with sensible beautiful syntax < 1375908647 130239 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean javascript? < 1375908675 141275 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length ['\0'..] < 1375908676 123747 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375908676 323956 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1114112 < 1375908714 309651 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's just not a lisp if it doesn't have arbitrary criteria for inclusion, man < 1375908772 780493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :inclusion-exclusion < 1375908797 700516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :inclusion-inclusion < 1375908801 840240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> logBase 2 $ length ['\0'..] < 1375908802 899987 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Float.Floating GHC.Types.Int) < 1375908803 100931 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of... < 1375908812 891006 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> logBase 2 . fromIntegral $ length ['\0'..] < 1375908814 50006 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 20.08746284125034 < 1375908820 269741 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo call it 20 < 1375909011 399900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :utf-20.1 < 1375909032 680663 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> reverse $ unfoldr (\x -> if x == 0 then Nothing else Just (mod x 2, div x 2)) (length ['\0'..]) < 1375909033 750345 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0] < 1375909075 486987 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1375909085 129905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you could fit 3 codepoints in a 64-bit word with enough bits left over to tag it as not a pointer < 1375909086 160009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> binary # length ['\0'..] < 1375909087 660038 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "100010000000000000000" < 1375909094 500481 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :utf-lg(1114112), computable reals are the future < 1375909097 20650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yep. < 1375909098 716360 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what < 1375909106 952255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I ported "text" to that encoding once. < 1375909111 269950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1375909112 148019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, not the pointer tagging bit.) < 1375909140 473556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but UTF-21? < 1375909152 850247 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(#)??? is it just ($) or am i missing something < 1375909153 130062 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if i give you that information, you can teleport me away, so no thank you :| < 1375909153 330655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :UCS-2.625 or whatever you might call it. < 1375909155 638492 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did it do... < 1375909156 533860 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's this again < 1375909163 489821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't port everything but a lot of it. < 1375909181 50396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: There are various disadvantages, like not being able to (++) two strings with memcpy. < 1375909187 140632 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (#) < 1375909189 22253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unless you're lucky and the alignment matches.) < 1375909191 930256 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :AReview s t a b -> b -> t < 1375909205 400219 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t binary < 1375909212 198776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "10101" ^? binary < 1375909215 206977 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just 21 < 1375909245 444125 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t showIntAtBase < 1375909261 112530 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when I added all the bases up to 16 but edwardk made me take them out :( < 1375909269 190828 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to murder everyone involved in lens hth < 1375909279 74110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t binary < 1375909279 274228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Numeric.Lens is ion's fault hth < 1375909285 808685 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happen < 1375909286 530452 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is :t even more broken < 1375909289 110609 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this solves the problem where i'm too lazy to learn about lens) < 1375909292 636280 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type binary < 1375909300 550863 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> help < 1375909301 570711 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `help' < 1375909307 354385 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1375909308 680595 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t "help" < 1375909309 521192 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Char] < 1375909311 67947 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1375909317 623210 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t binary < 1375909327 865542 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this is a shitty bot. < 1375909437 162116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375909496 172120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "hm" < 1375909497 100634 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "hm" < 1375909500 574346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t binary < 1375909513 391883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t map < 1375909514 230680 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> b) -> [a] -> [b] < 1375909517 10303 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the haunted value. unknowable. untypeable < 1375909522 117059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1375909540 350419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> binary < 1375909541 546538 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Data.Profunctor.Choice p0) < 1375909541 746976 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `e_1' < 1375909541 747151 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1375909545 325697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1375909561 621863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the problem is the type is too long < 1375909564 201128 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, haven't we had that before? < 1375909564 662840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so lens is so freaky it breaks :t ? < 1375909565 792785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,) < 1375909566 626087 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> b -> c -> d -> e -> f -> g -> h -> i -> j -> k -> l -> m -> n -> o -> p -> q -> r -> s -> t -> u -> v -> w -> x -> y -> z -> t28 -> t29 -> t30 -> t31 -> t32 -> t33 -> t34 -> t35 -> t36 -> t37 -> < 1375909566 826240 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : t38 -> t39 -> t40 -> t41 -> t42 -> (a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, m, n, o, p, q, r, s, t, u, v, w, x, y, z, t28, t29, t30, t31, t32, t33, t34, t35, t36, t37, t38, t39, t40, t41, t42) < 1375909568 543188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember a type like that. < 1375909573 32135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,) < 1375909573 870578 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : A 77-tuple is too large for GHC < 1375909574 70783 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : (max size is 62) < 1375909574 70889 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Workaround: use nested tuples or define a data type < 1375909577 161685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1375909584 641454 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :62, really? < 1375909591 860599 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the perfect number, imo. < 1375909606 180445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why it's 62 < 1375909672 870807 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s a nice number in base-63. < 1375909673 71090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tuple types are defined explicitly in a module, istr a comment that something broke if they tried to expand it one step more. < 1375909743 238236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :long long long is too long for gcc < 1375909869 228416 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds weird that a tuple breaks at that size but a data type of the same size is supposed to be ok (according to the error message's workaround) < 1375909907 601125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :grmbl changing Data-Tuple to GHC-Tuple in the platform doc url doesn't lead to the source < 1375909970 424155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's becuase it's in ghc-prim hth < 1375910041 431398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's really no excuse for making it hard to find the real source of something < 1375910045 661660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://github.com/ghc/packages-ghc-prim/blob/master/GHC/Tuple.hs hth < 1375910052 200510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :{- Manuel says: Including one more declaration gives a segmentation fault. < 1375910117 601685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like what i recall < 1375910122 153482 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :From now on, all comments i add to any code will begin with “ion says:” < 1375910126 652871 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it say it's "Experimental" < 1375910139 771785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuples aren't ready for the prime time, Bike < 1375910158 892921 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I'll make my comments "shachaf says: ... hth" < 1375910164 466272 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it says copyriht 2001 and then that it's experimental < 1375910175 752512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: presumably that you cannot rely on the API not changing at any time? < 1375910179 501541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: that only works for simon < 1375910180 2624 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a long-running experiment < 1375910191 851936 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this s some really awesome code < 1375910229 115047 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: but, but... please *kitten-like eyes with glitter and sparkles and tears* < 1375910232 275556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...now i'm imaging ghc source full of "simon says:" < 1375910244 551081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*imagining < 1375910254 498227 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1375910257 711346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: then i have succeeded hth < 1375910274 343493 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but the api is just, like. tuples < 1375910280 43664 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: who are you even :| < 1375910293 551469 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "(,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,," < 1375910294 593319 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 100 < 1375910300 812669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: some random canadian, with a small collectiön of coördinates and weighs. < 1375910318 762822 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's trying to stalk everyone :< < 1375910319 178392 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You accidentally the ẗ < 1375910322 771567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18249218/?i=6&from=/18271693/related < 1375910327 831520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait < 1375910338 523001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: just look at the < 1375910373 683590 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! < 1375910377 441956 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the