< 1375488073 84104 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375488498 416889 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375488984 906428 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"100.75 T: strongest (pulsed) magnetic field yet obtained non-destructively in a laboratory" < 1375488988 537007 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"730 T: strongest pulsed magnetic field yet obtained in a laboratory, destroying the used equipment, but not the laboratory itself" < 1375488996 528520 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.8kT: "strongest (pulsed) magnetic field ever obtained (with explosives) in a laboratory" < 1375489002 346119 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: #overlyhonestmethods < 1375489032 326557 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend using explosives outside of laboratories < 1375489034 416612 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lost it at "but not the laboratory itself" < 1375489129 856445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did i use to think the word was "labroratory" years ago < 1375489145 608778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently that's p. common so maybe i picked it up from someone else < 1375489156 866539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :similary: "substract" < 1375489392 586986 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The facility contains 14 resistive magnet cells connected to a newly upgraded 48 megawatt DC power supply and 15,000 square feet (1,400 m2) of cooling equipment to remove the heat generated by the magnets." @____@ < 1375489551 784762 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375489884 58546 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: #perfectlyhonestmethods < 1375489928 518720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#thingsthatlooklikeircchannelnames < 1375489930 878206 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: also https://twitter.com/search?q=%23sciconfessions < 1375490050 58169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, does Bike follow me on twitter < 1375490053 378209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess not :'( < 1375490057 168639 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh gosh XD < 1375490117 968653 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Had this as the forward to my thesis because mice ruled my life for the last 2 years. http://instagram.com/p/RNm5_7w2rc/ " oh gosh < 1375490121 381299 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are amazing < 1375490185 288946 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"who knew some bins weren't autoclave safe" < 1375490266 398730 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still somewhat worried that "walk-in autoclave" is a thing that exists < 1375490288 148801 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I've exposed and developed X-ray film to make extremely dark eye protectors for the lab to look at a solar eclipse." < 1375490382 128010 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375490405 780596 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cabbages shatter into a million tiny bits if you put them in liquid nitrogen and then throw them at each other #sciconfessions" < 1375490603 160522 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375490618 367746 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who didn't do that in high school < 1375490660 699664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: How many years of bad luck is that? < 1375490668 209186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that was covered in my manual... < 1375490670 719741 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't do it >_< < 1375490688 449282 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is probably how they make frozen shredded cabbage < 1375490710 930340 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I used 200 proof EtOH to make jello shots " < 1375490729 631252 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I used the autoclave to cook corn on the cob. It was delicious on a 5 min fast exhaust cycle" < 1375490733 250370 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohmy gosh this tag < 1375490755 900491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hey do you actually need the object mapping part of a functor < 1375490881 910026 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1375490891 490411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1375490978 615 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.labsolutely.org/2013/07/31/sciconfessions-confess-your-lab-sins/ here's a summary list thing < 1375491069 11413 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As an undergrad, I managed to melt laboratory glassware during practicals. Now I am doing bioinformatics. " there's a cruel joke here < 1375491265 170633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (2*3*5*7)^2 < 1375491266 150999 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 44100 < 1375491266 880909 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. which list is the homestuck list < 1375491323 381344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist < 1375491325 871473 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1375491327 571108 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1375491454 212060 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375491578 372593 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yaaay, new box up. < 1375491672 552745 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375491695 225868 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375491776 504539 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375491858 974491 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375491862 411979 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1375491870 92047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :soup < 1375491888 381985 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1375491895 953582 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :inf < 1375492020 802472 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chickens have magnetoreception. what the fuck < 1375492079 412262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do they use it for < 1375492093 322332 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crossing roads < 1375492105 372785 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :navigating. i guess. < 1375492129 822921 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can train them to find a "social stimulus" (haven't read the paper) along magnetic axes. < 1375492355 684253 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC humans have profoundly weak magnetoreception. < 1375492777 569934 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some humans, however, have found strong magnets irresistible < 1375492845 600355 :tromp!~tromp@rtc34-155.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375493446 306097 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375493813 609046 :tromp!~tromp@rtc34-155.rentec.com QUIT : < 1375494220 215656 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Bxh8# ever happen? (I can make up a way for it to happen, but I don't know if they have actualy done this.) < 1375494243 707091 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is Bxh8#? < 1375494254 940266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chess notation? < 1375494263 598626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes. < 1375494269 515093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1375494289 659802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :échecs < 1375494313 873683 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bishop in a corner, capturing for checkmate. < 1375494341 605869 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bishop takes at H8 checkmate? Hmmmm. < 1375494343 639628 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tricky. < 1375494629 197575 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375494631 788951 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1375495203 719067 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to do it by moving out of some other piece's way no? < 1375495212 699061 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like out of a rook or a queen's path < 1375495243 18928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it does have to be discovered check, as far as I can see. < 1375495524 981542 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :has < 1375495525 993499 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to < 1375495551 640657 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moving to a corner doesn't add any new squares available to the bishop < 1375495560 576303 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it can't give check < 1375496038 974095 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infocom's documentation for the PTSIZE instruction of the Z-machine has the strange wording "Guaranteed to return a meaningless value". < 1375496104 191241 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was written by nal < 1375496140 695501 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375496344 24609 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375496355 512949 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1375496630 572122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's that < 1375496651 681522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dual of conal < 1375496675 984006 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1375496689 173880 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375497062 581184 :augur_!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net NICK :augur < 1375498650 784748 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't you have Bxh8# by having the bishop moving /away/ from where it was cause it, and the capture be incidental? < 1375498938 348308 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not understand what you mean. < 1375498966 808063 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean a discovered check? < 1375498995 587270 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's the term, sorry. < 1375499006 187152 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is also what I wrote above. < 1375499012 398106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what madbr wrote too. < 1375499022 386993 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, discovered works. < 1375499034 108014 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry >_> < 1375499186 199704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe like this: 4K1kn/6B1/6Q1/8/8/8/8/8 (This is the one I was thinking of when I wrote "I can make up a way for it to happen", but I was also wondering if an actual chess game in some tournament was ever with a move Bxh8#) < 1375499231 137165 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of the chess move databases i found in cursory googling are only openings. < 1375499296 98059 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the worst possible chess opening? < 1375499307 897392 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Scholar's Mate, I guess. < 1375499310 900723 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :resignation < 1375499317 127017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually the Fool's Mate is the worse. < 1375499327 626869 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe at least a chess problem. < 1375499338 309547 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aside from the one where white opens up to checkmate in 2 moves yeah < 1375499340 717920 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scholar's Mate is when the opponent does it. < 1375499358 240573 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"20. The Ammonia Attack (Nh3) - Pros: None. Cons: All the same as Na3, plus the king's knight is arguably of slightly more potential importance in the opening than the queen's since the e-pawn needs extra protection in ways the d-pawn doesn't." < 1375499362 59641 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there mates in any number of moves more than two? < 1375500836 527236 :heroux_!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1375501050 208431 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375501055 581592 :heroux_!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl NICK :heroux < 1375502333 855711 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375502780 447301 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375502780 697253 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375502780 697345 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375502951 594867 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375503030 607703 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375504020 584797 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1375505323 170274 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ProfStef has jumped the shark < 1375505423 455536 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not at all obvious how to get to it in a useful way from opening Pharo for the first time < 1375505458 48941 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a ProfStef tutorials button, but trying it leads to a help browser, which doesn't support right-clicking a selection to DoIt, completely screwing the innocent user out of being able to follow the tutorial < 1375506412 512706 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375509372 354973 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read recently of a chess variant called "Czech Chess", which is: If the piece you moved gives check, put a pawn of your own color in the space it moved from. If the space it moved from is in the promotion zone, the placed pawn is immediately promoted. There is no promotion to queens in this game. < 1375509451 66832 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375509487 539718 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1375512907 935714 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375513572 635742 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1375513800 442835 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375518094 94820 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1375519344 986055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi everybody < 1375519715 485060 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375519859 861860 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a weird dream last night < 1375520022 534836 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375520037 192126 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was at a small social do near the entrance to an abandoned mine < 1375520058 642586 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the abandoned mine probably wasn't important, might be to do with the Lego I bought yesterday) < 1375520073 9342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1375520082 61139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helloneb < 1375520197 124200 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375520210 737538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: did you know every functor : C -> Set that has a left adjoint is representable? < 1375520225 745176 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not! < 1375520271 241903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, in haskell, if F and G are endofunctors and F -| G, then G x ~ (R -> x) for some R < 1375520320 879139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is kind of straightforward because F -| G p. much means forall a b. (F a -> b) ~ (a -> G b) < 1375520326 745852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just pick a = () < 1375521712 42317 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, in this dream, I made friends with some guy who had moved from south-east Asia < 1375521850 485345 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375522066 275309 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375522653 476185 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375523023 235232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375523187 478433 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1375523349 631822 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375523912 470860 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then I gave him a hug and it turned out he was gay and had a crush on me < 1375524086 925141 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, there's a guy giving a seminar on PS4 development. < 1375524089 753294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :charming < 1375524104 546004 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please don't take any photos and this won't be streamed." < 1375524114 344369 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting some EXCLUSIVE info here, that's fer shur. < 1375524138 825858 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's some guy who's a "Principal Engineer" at SCEE R&D.) < 1375524179 257453 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are some slides here that are... sensitive." < 1375524204 218365 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please don't hurt their feelings" < 1375524284 783457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far it's just been a PR blurb. < 1375524301 584987 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Core Gamers" "fun for the whole family" "frictionless interaction" blah blah. < 1375524389 451109 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375524440 353848 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least it proceeded on to some specs and such. < 1375524610 229603 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1375524848 689326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of emphasis on doing general sort of computing on the GPU. < 1375524914 922207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask quintopia nonetheless, it is a useless exercise at the moment, as I have been moving north slowly for 4.5 months, so the centroid would be rather erratic <-- are you on a boat or something < 1375524915 167584 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375524919 97423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:17:19: ekmnosy < 1375524976 88085 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Maybe it was a reference to continental drift. < 1375524991 442289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did i manage to select bike's comment too < 1375524998 292114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ooh < 1375526198 664725 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375526390 168316 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL: PS4 has a hardware video encoder that's always on and keeps a buffer of the last few minutes of what's happened. < 1375526406 751008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They seem to be very much about the social thing.) < 1375526489 124939 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375526749 299747 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375526751 166749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next up: "Strange Days in the Rift" < 1375526794 616547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's something related to the Oculus thing.) < 1375526894 276089 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need the same thing for my terminal < 1375527068 957777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, who needs to see the world when you've got a terminal. < 1375527199 42341 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375527254 213262 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375527822 303912 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rift seems to be hip and pop, those seating places are all filled up. < 1375527928 451996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh; I tried to make that presence plot finger-draggably, but for some reason it only drags for a small amount and then stops. < 1375528340 483581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don' < 1375528356 755531 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :t suppose Android-Chrome has some way of e.g. showing the console.foo() logs? < 1375528435 205636 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does. < 1375528440 955776 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You connect it up to your computer with USB debugging < 1375528451 726025 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can run the whole developer tools thing on your computer < 1375528454 515275 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm here with the tablet only. < 1375528460 117567 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debugging and inspecting also works. < 1375528461 629962 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1375528480 536166 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could just postpone fixing it until I get home. < 1375528493 279274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's so easy, like a monoid. < 1375528720 760056 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoid < 1375528722 769626 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are just categories with a single object. < 1375528774 907188 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monad < 1375528776 497309 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1375528814 748834 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1375528850 356706 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote lax.functor < 1375528850 556446 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin says: a monad is just a lax functor from a terminal bicategory, duh. fuck that monoid in category of endofunctors shit < 1375529002 160217 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog love.*so easy < 1375529009 322390 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-02-26.txt:18:40:12: I love morpeth, it is so easy < 1375529020 231353 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs love.*so easy < 1375529035 753907 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.8686 < 1375529062 220664 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls explain Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1375529090 117805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category < 1375529090 470643 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoid laws (identity and associativity) give monad laws < 1375529092 292740 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories are just a special case of bicategories. < 1375529127 121000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's the most useful learndb.) < 1375529152 94215 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bicategory < 1375529154 157473 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicategories are just categories where composition is only associative up to an isomorphism. < 1375529178 169932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? isomorphism < 1375529179 783003 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :isomorphism is isomorphic to Phantom_Hoover up to isomorphism. < 1375529223 578207 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have an endofunctor M, with morphisms 0, 1, 2, 3, ... < 1375529249 694012 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that give you a monad M with eta and mu < 1375529611 899381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "monoid in a category" thing is something very abstract that is not the same as an ordinary monoid. < 1375529676 909169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some sense, eta is the "identity" and mu is the "multiplication", iirc < 1375529757 311062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i've forgotten how exactly it goes. < 1375529852 218145 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1375529926 521813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eta :: x -> m x, mu :: m (m x) -> m x and eta . mu = id, mu . fmap eta = id is what corresponds to the identity laws < 1375529940 534916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hm associativity would be... < 1375529948 206346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mu . fmap mu = mu . mu < 1375529952 589668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1375529980 280865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :m (m (m x)) -> m x and it doesn't matter which m you apply the mu to < 1375529995 848074 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right if M (an endofunctor) is your object, then your monoid maps (0, 1, and all the rest) are natural transforms < 1375529999 169355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*which m pair < 1375530033 762144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what do 0, 1 have to do with monoids < 1375530063 261097 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just think of a monoid that way < 1375530084 816462 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375530100 525059 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess thats wrong < 1375530110 431876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a monoid has an identity which you might call 0 or 1, but i have no idea what you mean if you use both < 1375530248 405689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the morphisms in the category of endomorphisms are natural transformations though. < 1375530493 448062 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we have endofunctor M and id : M -> M and * : MxM -> M < 1375530550 355058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have been trying to point that what's meant by "monoid in a category" is _not_ a monoid in the usual sense. < 1375530560 633842 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :( < 1375530565 196978 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it then? < 1375530628 768905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what you get if you put the idea of "monoid" through a process of analogy to a categorical level, which i think can be applied to any sort of algebra. < 1375530719 353346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, think of m (m x) as analogous to MxM, and mu as your * < 1375530728 490273 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats cheating < 1375530739 945311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1375530741 358660 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a lie < 1375530766 571649 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for helping expose this lie < 1375530777 48606 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category theory: provoking strong emotions since [year]. < 1375530777 255135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is a construction category theoreticians use, anyway < 1375530811 524413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: well the whole "monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors" thing is a half-joke anyway. < 1375530842 105761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is really to be expected that the thing on the right is more complicated than it seems. < 1375530851 498317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sounds. < 1375530930 15920 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The presentation will showcase Z Vector (http://www.z-vector.com). A new type of real-time VJ and music visualization software specifically made for depth sensors such as the Microsoft Kinect and the PrimeSense Carmine. The basic functionality of the software will be covered ("virtual camera tracking", stereoscopic rendering, GLSL shaders etc.). Tuomisto will also do a short real-time, fully ... < 1375530936 22889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... live controlled improvisational performance to a set music background." < 1375530938 519116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So modern. < 1375530943 866974 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait oerjan < 1375530955 353085 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you just replace x with o (composition) it works? < 1375531017 924600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that is what it does, sort of < 1375531088 108334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you i am not entirely clear on this, since i have not learned how this analogizing works for more general things than monoids. i just remember the diagrams i saw for monads ~ monoids. < 1375531150 778729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect wikipedia probably has articles on this stuff. < 1375531828 415475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1081 < 1375531829 816634 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1081) Fiora: hey gimme a ballpark here, how hospitable is a pH of 10 is it basic or acidic bike you should know this stuff, you know biology right? this is like. basic stuff. shut up < 1375531840 507053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah fixed already. < 1375532596 17531 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla, i think you need to use a categorical formulation of monoids in general < 1375532641 977070 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats that < 1375532652 631684 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1375532713 550763 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375532783 532255 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375533162 236985 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLOT OF THE DAY https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130803-tmp.png < 1375533242 34705 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it looks fuzzy < 1375533258 235637 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also not entirely certain it's correct. < 1375533281 78288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But who can say, right? < 1375533392 571761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the X axis is time (from 1000 days ago to yesterday, left-to-right) and the Y axis goes from 0 Hz (top) to 0.00055 Hz (bottom). < 1375533598 657699 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The peak at about 10 pixels from the top corresponds to (1/24*60*60) Hz. < 1375533757 29973 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting < 1375533821 85231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a plot, or fizzie's felt carpet? only time will show. < 1375533840 174082 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and ehm, what is the actual data? < 1375533849 353520 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1375534043 377391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I lost it at "but not the laboratory itself" <-- i like how that implies the next item listed _did_ destroy the laboratory. < 1375534069 636347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Fiora I lost it at "but not the laboratory itself" <-- i like how that implies the next item listed _did_ destroy the laboratory. < 1375534069 840371 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375534328 733525 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1375534427 513709 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375534500 412885 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375534620 715784 :MBEFDC2!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375534623 153144 :MBEFDC2!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375534689 144705 :MBEFDC2!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375534696 274012 :MBEFDC2!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375535166 724404 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375535362 983788 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1375535379 58738 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: Channel activity. (Number of characters in messages during 15-minute intervals.) < 1375535389 233817 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1375535427 185585 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what happened during that week where nothing happened? < 1375535427 892879 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375535428 702531 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, you've got some nice new graphs? < 1375535443 944894 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice is an overstatement :P < 1375535446 293538 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Sadly, no. Just "new", not "nice". < 1375535457 595428 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naughty new graphs. < 1375535473 843040 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a niggardly new plot < 1375535477 978095 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: also, why is there a white line about 10 pixels from the top? < 1375535493 832467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: I explanated that. < 1375535503 346092 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you did < 1375535506 86705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: It's the 1/(24*60*60) Hz line. < 1375535515 662563 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1375535524 618044 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to understand this plot < 1375535535 810159 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think the X axis is time (from 1000 days ago to yesterday, left-to-right) and the Y axis goes from 0 Hz (top) to 0.00055 Hz (bottom). < 1375535540 398731 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It's just the STFT of channel activity. < 1375535572 153195 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a guy here talking on the topic of "How Not to Suck at Pinball". (Apparently some kind of pinball professional/enthusiast.) < 1375535597 442927 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an obvious column of less activity with more activity after it around the middle area < 1375535598 991183 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened < 1375535625 662195 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Could be an artefact in my logs. < 1375535640 296703 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: whiter is higer, then? < 1375535653 879856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yes, and the intensity axis is logarithmic. < 1375535666 227404 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1375535670 753739 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so the line is there because of the "day changed" message? < 1375535671 33536 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's the other way round then ¬u¬ < 1375535688 29281 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes who makes graphs that have white higher < 1375535736 687165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: No, it's there because the overall channel activity has a strong daily variation: http://zem.fi/ircvis/esoteric/people_tod.html < 1375535752 637494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you imagine that repeating, it's almost a sine wave at that frequency.) < 1375535781 238828 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very ugly sine wave < 1375535826 695407 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're so judgmental < 1375536350 467247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Android YouTube player can't be left to play things in the background? Aww. < 1375536415 305368 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22989236/fixedit.png <-- tell me that this is a nice sine graph then :P < 1375536640 431079 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: Any hump in a storm... < 1375536781 378566 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sailor's motto < 1375537693 534672 :dessos_!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375537831 460535 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375537898 339132 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375537950 351799 :Lymia!~moe@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375537950 610766 :Lymia!~moe@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375537950 610920 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1375537970 838467 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375538135 809646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375538488 181414 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375539315 682559 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: basically, yeah XD < 1375539874 418580 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1375539885 652294 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1375539894 54745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like everyone and their brother did a 1k intro this year. < 1375539898 143584 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were like 13 entries. < 1375539922 624907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was terribly popular last year too; it's like the up-and-coming competition format. < 1375539990 615249 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember seeing 4K ones get really impressive a few years ago, maybe they're moving to 1K because it's harder to stand out as a 4K? < 1375540003 257660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is most likely what's happening. < 1375540012 815960 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're PUSHING that BOUNDARY. < 1375540025 53808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next, 256b. < 1375540040 882755 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, pouet's categorization dropdown already goes down to 16b or 32b or so. < 1375540059 263072 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :32b @_@ < 1375540080 371758 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The entries of that category aren't... terribly interesting. < 1375540090 187256 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 256b small enough that compression isn't usually used? < 1375540095 791719 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 1k ones now are pretty much as good as 4k ones a couple years ago < 1375540149 877111 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: There aren't that many 256b's, but the break-even point w.r.t. compression is probably somewhere there. < 1375540183 152925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course if you "cheat" you don't necessarily have to include decompression code, which means it can still be a win as long as the compression format has low overhead. < 1375540217 92172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 1ks were quite "fractally", unsurprisingly. < 1375540231 456459 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheat? < 1375540266 650924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "pipe $0 through xz" approach. < 1375540279 654622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or xzcat or whatever. < 1375540365 786310 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez, do they allow that? < 1375540378 536100 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I thought the demos used, like, COM files, so they didnt have to have the ELF overhead (?) < 1375540383 541858 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't checked the rules, exactly; but I've seen that sort of stuff. < 1375540401 342131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I don't think you can have COM files on Linux sensibly. :p < 1375540411 205785 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the ones I remember seeing were for windows... < 1375540420 389658 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or in Windows if you want to call DLLs, I don't think. < 1375540451 2109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was under the impression that if you run a .com file, it gets ran under the old 16-bit virtual thing. < 1375540480 956534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm certainly no expert on DOS/Windows demos. < 1375540500 98806 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to find one < 1375540504 160782 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmmm http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=32589 maybe? < 1375540518 379091 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah you can gzip your stuff on Linux for about 50b of overhead < 1375540529 792845 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pouet.net/prodlist.php?type[]=256b most of these seem to say DOS? < 1375540532 427835 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just did that for teh lulz < 1375540539 946926 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gosh, one is for the commodore 64 @_@ < 1375540557 469165 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well DOS has a zero-overhead executable format < 1375540562 770335 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is an advantage < 1375540564 753537 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: My uncompression wrapper is 59 bytes, but it properly uses mktemp instead of the conventional hardcoded /tmp/X. < 1375540571 597417 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1375540576 577718 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lumpio.dy.fi/b/lors.sh < 1375540578 832973 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the one I usedo < 1375540580 648819 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-o < 1375540582 564028 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just for teh lulz < 1375540583 968737 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :59 bytes is a reasonable fraction of 256 bytes, though. < 1375540593 322327 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should rewrite that so that it works on a vanilla ubuntu or something < 1375540602 934866 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah well it's a balancing act. < 1375540606 26057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1375540618 54386 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having trouble following links here. SSH works nice, web-browsing less so. < 1375540645 143414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :x=`mktemp`;tail -n+2 $0|lzcat>$x;chmod +x $x;$x;rm $x;exit < 1375540653 434285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's mine.) < 1375540666 38256 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah mine-s the same except with no mktemp and zcat instead of lzcat < 1375540681 154015 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that do?? < 1375540694 821411 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does what do < 1375540699 349198 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric : x=`mktemp`;tail -n+2 $0|lzcat>$x;chmod +x $x;$x;rm $x;exit < 1375540706 368002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You prefix a compressed executable with it. < 1375540726 430469 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1375540728 317628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then when you run it, it'll uncompress the rest (tail -n+2 $0 is the rest of the file) and runs the result. < 1375540749 706809 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's really sneaky < 1375540757 844212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another popular Linux/ELF intro trick: import dynamic library symbols by hash. < 1375540770 369135 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol yeah < 1375540777 36915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Asymptotic" cost of 4 bytes/symbol, whereas the names can be quite long.) < 1375540781 32135 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was lazy and just linked everything normally < 1375540793 354881 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even less than 4 if you can come up with a good hash! < 1375540811 348719 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what audio codecs vanilla ubuntu comes with < 1375540819 705408 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it doesn't do MP3 and it'd be the most efficient for this. < 1375540826 572728 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :speex is bloated as hell < 1375540828 103746 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Windows people usually imported by ordinal, I believe. < 1375540835 368311 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375540871 956181 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've (re)implemented the hash-import trick for fun one evening -- http://zem.fi/hashlink -- might not be the most optimilized one out there, but at least it's documented. < 1375541013 700389 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just need to add a binfmt handler for compressed programs. < 1375541085 839302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were also a couple of JavaScript 1k's; there's a long-running web competition (js1k.com) for those. < 1375541086 244873 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha so you've done proper 4k stuff huh < 1375541103 520412 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: If you were allowed to do that you might as well add a binfmt handler for your entire demo ;P < 1375541120 478393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :binfmt handler that runs your demo for all zero-byte files. < 1375541127 901624 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can have your 0k intro. < 1375541136 856494 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or make an intro that like, wgets your actual intro < 1375541147 709958 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The intro to your intro < 1375541156 239994 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, even better, um < 1375541157 494708 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cs.fit.edu/~mmahoney/compression/barf.html < 1375541164 30100 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also make it display some nice graphics while it downloads your intro. < 1375541170 510120 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(summary: it compresses any file to zero bytes, losslessly, by adding the last byte to its file extension) < 1375541185 96438 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375541238 773290 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: IIRC, people have used the "data in file name" trick. < 1375541273 836057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The compo machines generally aren't connected to the Interwebs to discourage the former. < 1375541279 798538 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's terrible < 1375541283 490716 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, the former, that is < 1375541301 851386 :augur_!~augur@71.57.182.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375541325 901880 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ioccc.org/1993/lmfjyh.c < 1375541402 595017 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh how does that even work < 1375541410 201100 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ioccc.org/1993/Makefile < 1375541435 430785 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh geez, so it's basically hiding the program in the makefile? < 1375541470 80623 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :${CC} ${CFLAGS} \"\;main\(\)\{puts\(\"Hello\ World!\"\)\;\}char\*C=\".c < 1375541526 978939 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375541558 801696 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375541560 274445 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me, case __LINE__: http://www.ioccc.org/1998/schweikh1.c < 1375541591 472287 :augur_!~augur@71.57.182.133 NICK :augur < 1375541619 409811 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: From what I recall, there also have been (multiuser) systems where quotas are computed based on just sum of sizes of files, that people have circumvented by mechanisms that store their data in names of dummy files. < 1375541646 45256 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's incredibly terribly evilly amazing. < 1375541660 275438 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: nice < 1375541889 807716 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 'sed 1d' is shorter than 'tail -n+2' < 1375541909 835192 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And more portable) < 1375541933 545625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Ack. < 1375541944 815516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: You're not doing the Assembly thing? < 1375541951 189680 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, never have. < 1375541964 166821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's no reason to not start now. < 1375541972 352301 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't a reason, it was an aside. < 1375541982 245383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although admittedly it's kind of a silly place. < 1375542003 628105 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good place if you like delays in schedules, though. < 1375542020 798973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The short film competition was supposed to start half an hour ago.) < 1375542189 110181 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's startinh. < 1375544006 637380 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1375544493 870705 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375544649 269505 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375544972 459949 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, that was a long too. < 1375546006 517161 :ottianna!~canaima@190.77.213.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375546099 836440 :ottianna!~canaima@190.77.213.38 PART :#esoteric < 1375546351 304303 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375546582 409779 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375547394 557136 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375547698 849076 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375548115 199225 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's Irregular Webcomic annoys me because Cartesian coordinates are already named for Descartes I think < 1375548222 881531 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it says in the annotation. < 1375548699 843249 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How normal a name is "Kimi Räikkönen" in Finland? < 1375549411 167451 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375549451 276174 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375549739 442210 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1375549739 642075 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1375549745 312263 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf NICK :shachaf < 1375549767 981401 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: There have been 1305–1379 Kimis and 1948 Räikkönens in the last century or so. < 1375549794 931730 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So probably more common than Nathan van Doorn is in the UK < 1375549842 306912 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a TI-89 in the Wild. < 1375549860 54824 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't count it as a "real TI" because it has a 68k and not a Z80, though. < 1375549914 92540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also one RPi, one ZedBoard, one NDS, a couple of Androids and web browsers, and a few funky display devices (a 20x4 character LCD and an old metro station display). < 1375550202 123134 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: don't all 89s have 68ks? < 1375550261 432387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure; so none of them are "real". < 1375550287 283107 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotcha < 1375550296 974919 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are pretty cool tho < 1375550305 182135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other 8x models have a Z80 and therefore are. < 1375550311 101715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a pretty arbitrary distinction.) < 1375550332 612810 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always had a fondness for the 89/92 < 1375550352 755731 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd think they're cool if I had had one at school, probably; but TI-86 was the most "advanced" calculator you could have with you in exams. < 1375550382 916212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :89/92 can (IIRC) do some symbolic stuff and was therefore a no-go. < 1375550630 127605 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a TI-92 calculator. < 1375550661 610149 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For exams it isn't allowed, not only because of the symbolic stuff but also because of the QWERTY keyboard. < 1375550680 421698 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, my school system wasn't exactly that smart < 1375550691 539748 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they even allowed 89s for use on the SAT back then < 1375550718 773811 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :my calc teacher made me wipe the memory before the final...which doesn't delete the archived items < 1375550728 723892 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i just archived everything i wanted to keep < 1375550783 864967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember they didn't require to wipe the memory of whatever calculator is used, as long as you didn't access any of the stuff you programmed into it before the exam. < 1375550804 209380 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the honor system eh < 1375550854 994629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They provided TI-83 to borrow. < 1375550890 104496 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375550892 154370 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a program for the 89 that would row-reduce a matrix, showing the operation performed at every step and the result of that operation. It was more fun to write than to do a bunch of row reduction homework assignments by hand, and once I had, I could just copy down the words that it spit out without having to do any math < 1375550949 544279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you wrote the program, including displaying the steps, then certainly you would know how it works. < 1375550986 874236 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah row-reducing by hand is about the most pointless assignment ever < 1375551012 945137 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be better to just say "here's a matrix that's being reduced. what row operation should you do next?" < 1375551025 64671 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can answer that question consistently, you understand the process < 1375551053 564926 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I was the teacher I would accept that although if it is done during an exam you would have to write the program during the exam instead of before (you could borrow a calculator without anything programmed into it for the exam). < 1375551130 376131 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the program takes longer to write than just solving one problem < 1375551140 134955 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a stupid problem to give anyway is the point < 1375551146 925305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: For many mathematical stuff there is more than one way to arrive at the answer, though. < 1375551181 446471 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in high school math, they usually want you to "write it out" < 1375551208 695565 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that if you get the right answer the wrong way, they can still criticize < 1375551228 387284 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although there still might be more than one possible way to figure out. Of course a wrong way is wrong, but there can be more than one right way. < 1375551273 37525 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's usually only a problem if you are better at math than your math teacher < 1375551314 296905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it does happen. < 1375551338 485414 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately < 1375551343 326763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although often the teacher understands that it is correct even if not necessarily the way taught. < 1375551352 496036 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason, the very best mathematicians don't tend to become high school teachers < 1375551353 956571 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also often this doesn't happen. < 1375551371 655311 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In my experience, anyways, it works this way.) < 1375551416 640706 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any ideas for improving math instruction for young people mr. zzo? < 1375551527 908869 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if a teacher sees something they didn't know on the paper, they should check if it is correct rather than to just assume it is wrong without checking. Other than that I don't have another suggestion at this time, although perhaps if they can teach that a student can understand why these steps are correct, would also help to understand mathematics (for both the teacher and students). < 1375551803 581466 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375552160 561619 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375552497 268849 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375552529 166928 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1375552555 669709 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375552720 938262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp. The 4k's were all very nice (esp. the HBC entry), but somehow I feel I've been more amazed before. < 1375552732 89457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly it's just familiarity with what can be done these days. < 1375552773 139930 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: which contest? < 1375552788 238693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Assembly 2013 4k. < 1375552791 67475 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It just ended.) < 1375552800 910370 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I liked the last one the most. < 1375552801 189265 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375552815 450237 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: So did everyone else. That's why they showed it the last. :p < 1375552828 28830 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also "Yog-Sothoth" < 1375552836 195542 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of the cool plant like thing < 1375552851 139261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it was nice. < 1375552877 130464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tip for getting applause in a 4k: do something that looks like some sort of a real-world thing, instead of just abstract spikeballs. < 1375552894 471200 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(E.g. the room in that one thing, the plant, the highways in HBC's thing.) < 1375552920 979373 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lightbikes! < 1375552974 381740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those, too. < 1375552979 601556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shiny light-Bikes. < 1375553022 541158 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the city in that rain thing. < 1375553116 217467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I should download some android thing this tablet can run so that I can show it if I need to explain anyone what the whole demoscene thing is about. < 1375553235 540857 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375553304 868418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: What do you know about light-Bikes? < 1375553335 893094 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly that i'm not very good at gltron < 1375553364 170376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We used to play some lightbike thing at the school classroom. < 1375553367 963506 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it ran over IPX. < 1375553438 593889 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :armagetron advanced is a hard game imo < 1375553462 252389 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since when is it called advanced < 1375553478 161109 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the original one stopped being maintained a billion years ago I think < 1375553478 479652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't quite understand why this wifi is completely terrible when trying to web-browse, but the SSH works fine. < 1375553481 390638 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p.s. I haven't played in years < 1375553485 350581 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p.s. I can barely play it < 1375553497 176186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's some transparent proxy at work. < 1375553505 561258 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I last played before finding out that it's called advanced nowadays < 1375553537 990738 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty weird game < 1375553643 721492 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I quit "Yog-Sothoth" permanently because of the very buggy system and that they won't even take any of my suggestions seriously (for additional societies, commands, gods, etc) you can't even AFK while sleeping and there is no permadeath. (One person did take my suggestions seriously but they aren't an administrator so they can't do anything) < 1375553689 695577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: This "Yog-Sothoth" was a different th[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~ing, though. < 1375553703 761667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a different th[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~ing < 1375553721 330553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to scroll around at the same time. < 1375553723 682960 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a different th?6~?6~?6~?6~?6~ing < 1375553738 340941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what. Browsing doesn't work on 3G either, while SSH does. < 1375553739 411553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ah. Well, that one I cannot quit because I never used it, but yes you put escape codes in there??? You shouldn't do that? < 1375553747 803061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the Chrome has broken somehow. < 1375553750 776625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It wasn't on purpose. < 1375553758 862431 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think yog sothoth engenders escape characters < 1375553779 92542 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(O, and they never told me the proper character encoding either) < 1375553807 844628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I closed all tabs and now it works. Bizarre. < 1375553864 661954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know a game "Solter Solitaire"? This is a card game with forty cards, that at first I programmed it in TI-92 calculator, and then I made it in other systems as well and also with the actual cards. Now I am making it in Z-machine, one reason for this is so that I can make sure the "Frolg" assembler is OK. < 1375553880 459334 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375553921 890957 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1375553938 69674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that game. < 1375554005 157813 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rules are you have cards four of each 0 to 9 (suits are irrelevant). Deal into four rows. You can move the end card of a row to another row, to the free pile, or to the single foundation. < 1375554070 482366 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foundation go up 0 to 9 wrapping and starting at whatever number you want. When moving to another row, you cannot move to empty rows, and must move to the number one up or one down (no wrapping) (for example, 5 goes on 6 or 4, 9 goes on 8). You can move to free pile regardless of sequence as long as you don't put more than four cards there in total. < 1375554082 152012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cards from free pile can go only in foundation. < 1375554156 712402 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every card moved to foundation is worth 1 point, emptying a row is worth 2 points, and completing the game is worth an additional 2 points. < 1375554266 114672 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you like mechwarrior < 1375554273 432651 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you like card collection games < 1375554295 502478 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That isn't something I am familiar with. < 1375554490 103249 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you can get this game you might like. https://www.thegamecrafter.com/designers/giant-robots < 1375554528 779505 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375555481 892467 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1375555980 456705 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375557150 323419 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375557607 269556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375558069 432193 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1375558528 464066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :A different th[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~ing | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1375558558 933503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^[[A^[[A^[[B^[[B^[[D^[[C^[[D^[[C < 1375558767 991244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My ^[[C key is broken. :-( < 1375558828 762042 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should replace the keyboard then. < 1375558856 531784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that topic supposed to contain actual control characters? < 1375558871 32268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because it doesn't seem to do so here) < 1375558880 952214 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also doesn't seem to have here either. < 1375558889 762128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't < 1375558903 171641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The first Michell/Kingsbury fluid bearing in the USA was installed in the Holtwood Hydroelectric Power Plant... in 1912. The 2.25-tonne bearing supports a water turbine and electric generator with a rotating mass of about 165 tonnes and water turbine pressure adding another 40 tonnes. < 1375558908 272420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bearing has been in nearly continuous service since 1912, with no parts replaced... As of 2002, the manufacturer estimated the bearings at Holtwood should have a maintenance-free life of about 1,300 years." < 1375558937 771663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect kmc just copied what his terminal showed for what fizzie said. < 1375558942 22290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375558969 181807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fizzie's original had some \e characters but none of the others do) < 1375558992 582672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can the topic even contain control characters? < 1375559013 802503 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Try. < 1375559034 842134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : zzo38: This "Yog-Sothoth" was a different thESC[6~ESC[6~ESC[6~ESC[6~ESC[6~ing, though. < 1375559404 43688 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC is wildly apathetic about what goes in messages, so long as there aren't any null bytes. < 1375559408 792990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Today's Irregular Webcomic annoys me because Cartesian coordinates are already named for Descartes I think <-- yeah me too < 1375559437 323453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Carriage return and line feeds aren't allowed either. Also, bells aren't allowed in channel names. < 1375559468 294229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: freenode censors some characters, however < 1375559513 802962 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I don't imagine people would take kindly to any use of BEL. < 1375559584 883992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +[.+] < 1375559585 83871 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : . . !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ ... < 1375559649 473351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++[.+] < 1375559649 712348 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : . . !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ ... < 1375559658 364023 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like the cries of a dying deer in the forest. < 1375561732 259098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Stop with the CTCPs. < 1375561732 669192 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can you link me with your anti-bush fnord blasphemy. < 1375561887 948984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot makes a good point < 1375561888 227833 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i read your " implementing doom" as " ex" troglodyte. or < 1375561899 428342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: or what? < 1375561899 707684 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so am i. luckily i already knew that... but i had to change and update the web < 1375561918 485418 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you're a troglodyte? < 1375561919 52178 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: spróbuj mówiæ po polsku < 1375561944 932664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A web-updating troglodyte. < 1375561993 254101 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: jesteś troglodyta? < 1375561993 618468 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: oh yea, no-brainer, if the implementation adheres to r5rs, they aren't! < 1375562073 858736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smells latin-2 < 1375562094 444668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think you forgot the word "like" there hth < 1375562103 738596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth < 1375562107 841486 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hth < 1375562131 608549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: æ isn't a polish letter < 1375562202 926008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is ć? < 1375562256 129069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect so < 1375562280 899749 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is p < 1375562296 878885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is the fifth letter of the Polish, Sorbian, and Gaj's Latin alphabet of Serbo-Croatian (Standard Croatian, Standard Bosnian, and, when written the Latin script, Standard Serbian and Standard Montenegrin).[1] It is fourth in the Belarusian Łacinka alphabet." < 1375562323 200648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ooh tricky < 1375562519 340447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mówić is the infinitive of an imperfective verb meaning "say, tell, speak, talk" < 1375562592 359719 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1375562596 559617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :spróbuj means "try", imperative singular < 1375562728 852739 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmp: the people_presence dragging works just fine in desktop-Chrome's "emulate touch events" mode. < 1375562729 759932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, arabic has no letter p fwiw < 1375562737 619694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ^ < 1375562750 569454 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1375562761 622320 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1375563646 260538 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375564160 542790 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah the writing in this fanfic is horrific, but it has good reviews that sort of give the bad writing a pass < 1375564168 982586 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1375564192 542702 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's interesting if I can ignore the stilted dialog < 1375564202 392463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What fanfic is that? What kind of writing do they make in it (example)? < 1375564217 563786 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Just by being in authority, you get to question me anytime you want. If on any occasion, I am wrong then there are huge penalties to pay. Yet, if you are wrong, then there are absolutely no consequences." < 1375564233 603554 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harry's Game, a fanfic of Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality, itself a fanfic < 1375564245 383217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that so bad? < 1375564285 372992 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes me want to gorge my eyes out, but only because of the mannerisms, not the content < 1375564295 573094 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :McGonagall's wrinkles ceased compressing further. Harry knew that he had succeeded in convincing her. < 1375564298 493166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harry Potter and the Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living < 1375564390 203404 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <+kmc> Harry Potter and the Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living < 1375564396 433953 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1082) <+kmc> Harry Potter and the Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living < 1375564417 33497 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the quote file supposed to have a plus sign before their name? < 1375564432 949138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has voice! < 1375564456 371364 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is the quote file supposed to have plus sign if they have voice? < 1375564471 183428 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can if you want < 1375564478 613086 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I want to talk about how much work is going to suck, but shouldn't do it publically < 1375564500 103375 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you feel like you want to? < 1375564503 736088 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure about that < 1375564519 994127 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you just think you feel you want to < 1375564540 4240 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you're pretending to think you feel you want to but really you dread the idea < 1375564543 958388 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Assembly link of the day: http://sprunge.us/QIAA < 1375564572 64076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: (From a long long blog post that -- as far as I can tell -- doesn't have linkable anchors for sections. Original source: http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2013/07/16/floating-point-determinism/ ) < 1375564589 523796 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, assembly, not Assembly < 1375564607 823680 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Right. < 1375564616 413384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote '\+kmc' < 1375564617 883903 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375564621 84126 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I have an Assembly link of the day? < 1375564621 284475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote '+kmc' < 1375564622 824625 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375564624 83386 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote +kmc < 1375564625 473971 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: nothing to repeat < 1375564627 824101 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote \+kmc < 1375564629 367091 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1052) <+kmc> we are amused <+kmc> the royal +v \ 1082) <+kmc> Harry Potter and the Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living < 1375564640 693742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right when it's not `run then it's a single argument < 1375564647 314423 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375564650 36210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise addquote would be annoying < 1375564653 603799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I think you should leave the + iff it's part of the joke, as in 1052 < 1375564657 863478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't care < 1375564661 154039 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the reviews: "This story is amazing. Even though you are not as good a writer as Eliezer Yudkowsky, especially when it comes to writing other people's characters, you have done what I would have believed impossible: you have shown an interesting Quidditch game, which I previously thought was an oxymoron." < 1375564674 923639 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think kmc's + taints everything he says < 1375564677 753113 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Uh... I'd link to some entry I liked, but I don't think they've made to scene.org yet. < 1375564682 513608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is integral to the experience of his lines in my mind < 1375564688 875102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is my taint bit < 1375564696 105445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite possibly a joke completely unrelated to voice is only made funny by its presence < 1375564713 114819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt perl -T < 1375564714 482071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Except for the gamedev entries. Well, uh... there's an "Assembly simulator" there, you can use it to pretend-visit. (Except it seemed kind of terrible.) < 1375564715 741576 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Even though you are not as good a writer as Eliezer Yudkowsky" rare phrases < 1375564737 584086 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you saying Eliezer is a bad writer? < 1375564738 143868 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: why are you reading this < 1375564740 383785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafe { fuck tha police } < 1375564752 883774 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of that review and because it was mentioned in a Reddit thread < 1375564754 834489 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc..... use protection.......... < 1375564761 623617 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION → lunch < 1375564815 14254 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: why are you reading that review. why are you reading reddit. < 1375564846 384298 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Eli honestly is a pretty bad writer. < 1375564869 804424 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O? HPMOR is awesome, how is it badly written? < 1375564872 108959 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even pikhq can't defend it < 1375564921 765077 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude, the main character in HPMOR is practically a Mary Sue. < 1375564928 806132 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than the typical Mary Sue, but still. < 1375564976 654011 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's a Mary Sue except when he fails hard < 1375565015 254327 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having a Mary Sue get hoisted by his own petard does not a good character make. < 1375565365 955282 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adults eat Lucky Charms and Macarroni and Cheese, right? < 1375565367 375226 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1375565399 35010 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ok, so googling reveals that GM has an ad campaign directed to nostalgic adults but adults were eating them anyway) < 1375565410 485231 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... I don't have Lucky Charm related nostaligia at all < 1375565416 265738 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just like marshmallows < 1375565504 735127 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of maccaroni are we talking here < 1375565545 404595 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is lucky charm a brand of marshmallows? < 1375565578 485242 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cereal marshmallows < 1375565579 185977 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's a brand of cereal that has marshmallows in it < 1375565589 796318 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idg how people like cereal marshmallows or sugary cereals or < 1375565602 550792 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ah, I don't think adults are supposed to eat that < 1375565610 426021 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gawker.com/5964591/as-if-adults-havent-been-eating-lucky-charms-this-whole-time < 1375565619 195792 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry for Gawker link < 1375565674 946029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: do you know about kan extensions and kan lifts < 1375565683 329723 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no < 1375565686 496315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375565693 52851 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never got around to learning that stuff < 1375565706 426300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixing this involves *nested* CPR analysis, which I am working on at the moment. < 1375565715 787042 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoorayspj < 1375565718 305770 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck < 1375565720 52139 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote kha+n extension < 1375565721 496162 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375565732 567324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN < 1375565734 125867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was an spj quote btw, not me < 1375565753 438939 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote kaa+n extension < 1375565755 16349 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375565759 918734 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i figured < 1375565767 927404 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.giantitp.com/comics/erf0015.html < 1375565781 65405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: imo learn kan extensions < 1375565787 475773 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they cool < 1375565793 526036 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they probably are huh < 1375565796 875950 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :daaaang < 1375565893 775948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :daang < 1375566117 609928 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's CPR analysis? < 1375566200 487229 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Analysing the best way to keep a dead person's blood flowing so their brain can continue to receive oxygen until professional help can arrive < 1375566270 507139 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Excess Flood < 1375566295 607545 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where cpr < 1375566295 807204 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/simonpj/Papers/cpr/index.htm < 1375566308 797666 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O Adam Lee (who is made of pure awesome) likes xkcd < 1375566308 997324 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375566398 167609 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whos that < 1375566403 196839 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why < 1375566410 167376 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why do you care < 1375566413 147622 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and should i care < 1375566416 157163 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why < 1375566448 357485 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: should've started with the fourth question < 1375566458 89422 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375566524 987560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: are you ``made of pure awesome''? < 1375566529 747883 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1375566542 869070 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adam Lee is this guy http://ebonmusings.org/atheism < 1375566576 737523 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/atheism < 1375566579 528355 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think i want to click < 1375566594 218123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo good choice < 1375566690 657935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: but don't you like ironclad logic < 1375566778 137742 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☺) < 1375566857 858362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/essays/all-possible-worlds/#part2 < 1375566980 508409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if god is real why are there atheists < 1375567064 958738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know "ignostic"? < 1375567073 98641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that answer the question for you with another question? < 1375567516 402182 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375568308 126208 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1375568673 541842 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :1382934587194025722583321808878440049785645138984926013 < 1375569088 92720 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the famous dilemma is this: if god is omnibenevolent, why did he subject us to shachaf? < 1375569129 162666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if god is omnomnevolent, why am i hungry < 1375569154 142719 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What makes you think you know everything about God and omnibenevolence? < 1375569220 198720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i be zzo38ist < 1375569229 723004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you should start a cult < 1375569239 123484 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That depends. Is "zzo38ist" a word? < 1375569256 303244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. < 1375569289 943465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to start a cult. A proper religion should not be a "cult", but I can certainly write my opinions about religious stuff, and you are free to take it for what you want. < 1375569350 746294 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is too lenient about what others think to be a cult leader < 1375569454 723547 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many religious texts, with contain some good things, but you should not take them on blind faith, whether I told you to or not. < 1375570695 806915 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should we take on blind faith that we shouldn't take religious texts on blind faith even if you tell us? < 1375570737 826909 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is for you to figure out. < 1375571032 937134 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1375571034 497651 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1375571273 333663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi sim < 1375571322 49407 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Sgeo could you explain `slist for a friend of mine? i don't think i'd be able to do it justice < 1375571352 808045 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a list of people who want to be notified when Homestuck updates. < 1375571374 68337 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a Homestuck fan notices an update, they can ping the other Homestuck fans that way < 1375571395 258088 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, several of the people are the same people and I think one doesn't even exist < 1375571667 338604 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1375571667 576146 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1375572225 422830 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375572450 301792 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :93% of ASCII is still not mapped to any bot < 1375572515 942384 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : (aka ^C) - the best prefix. < 1375572519 650854 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It isn't necessary for all of them to have a single ASCII character prefix really; some may accept commands only in private, some may require their name and a colon and space to send a command in public, some may not accept commands at all, etc. < 1375572630 458213 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, good point < 1375572737 431018 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And in a few cases it does not necessarily have to be unique.) < 1375573077 501753 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375573717 363279 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1375573840 335257 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1375573939 433678 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375573939 633804 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375573939 633949 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375574200 395025 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds