< 1371600012 58595 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like MBTI except basically t he same as MBTI < 1371600018 848367 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dejavu.org/1995win.htm < 1371600081 736994 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I like being an INFP < 1371600084 161512 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that's the same theme as adequacy.org. makes u think < 1371600094 979301 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well i like being melancholic!!!!! < 1371600109 134005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myers.briggs-- < 1371600110 339313 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you trying to be < 1371600115 230079 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :humorous < 1371600127 725130 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1371600138 544100 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1371600185 852736 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::³ < 1371600188 497895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1371600192 388314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does ":3" even mean < 1371600202 570293 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION helps. hth < 1371600214 654196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my mind it's like a cute innocent "what did i do" cat face < 1371600218 765199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might be using it wrong < 1371600229 231376 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a lot of things < 1371600230 287404 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how i see it < 1371600233 950735 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx fiora < 1371600246 562587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Fiora. Theora. < 1371600253 796562 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks fiora < 1371600255 85296 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, fiora. Thiora. < 1371600258 741938 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh theora is that codec < 1371600260 964248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1371600261 183698 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION Gets the Joke < 1371600264 797296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ogg Fiora < 1371600267 232114 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Fiora. H.264. < 1371600283 648517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nanny Ogg Fiora???? < 1371600308 640378 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is everyone saying thanks? @_@ < 1371600318 208231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you seen Look Around You? < 1371600319 191034 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no that's about right. I think < 1371600320 965856 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's thanksgiving < 1371600324 851360 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: You need to see Look Around You. < 1371600325 834706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere in the world < 1371600340 382210 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :every day is thanksgiving in #esoteric < 1371600348 33906 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh geez. that thanks thing just reminded me of this :/ < 1371600349 382264 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDajqW561KM < 1371600358 748554 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, giving. Thiving. < 1371600371 188047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x68y4g_look-around-you-module-2-water_fun hth < 1371600381 392249 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw the calcium one < 1371600394 594991 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the water one has the genesis of thanks in it < 1371600421 406139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thenesis < 1371600434 906957 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: congratulations? < 1371600450 441883 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo I'm not shinji < 1371600459 646256 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is that why everyone hates evangelion then < 1371600472 404657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew is that dubbed in english < 1371600474 980372 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KH2gc11XQU < 1371600476 921615 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, evangelion would be way improved by making Fiora the protagonist < 1371600510 947444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of things would be improved by making Fiora the protagonist < 1371600522 431130 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: good, good < 1371600529 925024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Macbeth < 1371600544 111182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: did you see the super mega update btw,,,, there was a super mega update < 1371600549 139042 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes i saw < 1371600559 171749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see it before or after i `smlisted < 1371600567 900140 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1371600579 718093 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'd do a good job in a shakespearean tragedy <_> < 1371600584 369035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1371600589 782456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shaxpear < 1371600619 587153 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think someone's made a parody of shakespeare with shaquille o'neill < 1371600625 938819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: the QUESTION is if you saw it before i `smlisted why didn't you tell me................... < 1371600640 546574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well if you were the protagonist it wouldn't be a tragedy hth < 1371600682 394379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait am i mixing macbeth up with another play < 1371600700 201370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1371600700 421405 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1371600703 413533 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would we know < 1371600711 701602 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, hot potato pop is scotch, puck will make amends < 1371600713 454424 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :macbeth is the one where macbeth kills everyone and then dies < 1371600722 718163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoiler alert < 1371600736 310607 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear macbeth is the one with macbeth in it < 1371600743 820196 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the one in scotland < 1371600743 891983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The One Where Macbeth Kills Everyone < 1371600744 473073 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mafipulation" < 1371600744 803904 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like 80% of his tragedies anyway let's be real < 1371600748 684809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't macbeth in all of them < 1371600762 886521 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should read titus andronicus < 1371600769 671105 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sinc it's gorier than a tarantino film apparently < 1371600802 85712 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i think macbeth was partly written as propaganda or something < 1371600805 927149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but do the characters stand around talking about fast food when they aren't murderkilling < 1371600822 650010 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst kind of killing < 1371600845 32292 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well they have monologues < 1371600852 342844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also have you seen http://www.runleiarun.com/lebowski/ < 1371600855 517509 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have puns < 1371600866 527448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monologue and epilogue < 1371600872 255554 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. now if only shakespeare had a foot fetish < 1371600876 147367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE JOKE IS MONOMORPHISM AND EPIMORPHISM HTH < 1371600884 322171 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: awesome < 1371600901 539636 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I've actually played um. about two games where the protagonist is vaguely fiora-like? or at least kind of felt that way < 1371600906 299019 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i came so close to googling shakespeare fetish < 1371600914 268502 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't he have a thing for older women though < 1371600929 832944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Or maybe you became those-games'-protagonists-like < 1371600939 93373 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems likely. < 1371600939 421102 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fioroid < 1371600953 689530 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i know jack shit about shakespeare's performance. someone call an english major < 1371600968 569245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: anyway lots of games are all about identifying with the protagonists and wish fulfillment and "all that jazz" < 1371600980 149708 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would an english major be doing on freenode < 1371600995 202819 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they were games with like, well-defined characters < 1371600996 910074 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :being driven out by horrible nerds, imo < 1371600998 60423 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to blankslateish ones < 1371601000 437098 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: so what were the games < 1371601007 279333 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :were they < 1371601009 605424 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: atelier ayesha and atelier totori, surppriiiseee < 1371601009 925405 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :japanese < 1371601025 58070 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1371601033 780238 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, why are they both named after the french for workshop < 1371601034 248 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only spent like literally weeks fangirling or something < 1371601044 94646 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: they're about alchemists. < 1371601047 310788 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :atelier is a series where you play as an alchemist < 1371601049 509886 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "atelier" is used in english sometimes!!! < 1371601073 66505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could identify really identify with pac-man < 1371601080 977071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of character depth there imo hth < 1371601097 988363 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only characcters i identify with are terrible people < 1371601098 935180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/identify // < 1371601102 760693 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe is hould play games with princesses < 1371601113 78387 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :play atelier meruru! the protagonist is a princess < 1371601123 866627 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly pacman is representative of the human condition < 1371601141 237966 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never know if i'm identifying with characters or broad stereotypes < 1371601142 833659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If Pac-Man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in dark rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." < 1371601148 177432 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the traumatic personal influence of sheldon < 1371601175 810468 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be clinging to "characters who are vaguely similar" since I have so few options anyways :/ < 1371601179 485051 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! at orientation i saw a guy with a "Bazinga!" t-shirt. < 1371601180 502375 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi < 1371601187 992682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also do you know the reason it was renamed from "Puck-Man" for US release was because they realized every machine would immediately be vandalized to say "Fuck-Man" < 1371601203 527896 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, was he named after pück < 1371601262 666072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If [[Pac-Man]] had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in [[rave|dark rooms]], munching [[MDMA|pills]] and listening to [[Electronic dance music|repetitive electronic music]]." < 1371601274 22130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i enjoy Wikipedia's "explain the joke" role < 1371601296 192949 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bless you wikipedia < 1371601302 761025 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :|{protagonists who are girls}| is small, |{protagonists who are girls}∩{protagonists who are quieter, shy, and/or less assertive}| is smaller < 1371601308 176998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :blikipedia < 1371601326 315501 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good use of set notation. < 1371601332 90853 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am such a dork :/ < 1371601343 340426 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah i was gonna say (re: "were they japanese") that you're not exactly Faith (nb. have not played mirror's edge) < 1371601365 847905 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should totally play mirror's edge though < 1371601372 515354 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually like have it on steam from a summer sale for like a dollar or three < 1371601374 814882 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I still haven't played it < 1371601379 691392 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1371601382 270453 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's apparently `not that good' but it might be fun < 1371601383 939759 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Radiant Historia is fun < 1371601398 74440 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do want to try the idea though, i love running around games < 1371601416 207746 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never heard anything bad about mirror's edge really :/ < 1371601421 553686 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think opinion on it is kind of split? I've heard a lot of people kind of loved it < 1371601470 671536 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while others were like oh no it's not about shooting people!!! and you have to be a ~girl~ and they have cooties gosh no < 1371601470 938629 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might have moved in different circles of criticism < 1371601482 392958 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah maybe < 1371601482 502705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hadn't read the version of Two Gentlemen of Lebowski that has footnotes explaining the "shakespearean" language < 1371601484 712105 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay maybe I am being a bit too unfair <.< < 1371601485 544129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most excellent < 1371601489 993893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i played Mirror's Edge < 1371601490 936916 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: awesome < 1371601499 905211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's worth a dollar or three for sure < 1371601503 307331 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the errant signal guy was pretty critical of the crowbarred shooting and i read this complete evisceration of the plot once < 1371601519 242769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't finish it but i had some fun < 1371601519 566114 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the plot like, shiny 1984 < 1371601522 721814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can cause motion sickness < 1371601526 27848 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully for 2 they'll be given more creative control < 1371601540 969520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's set in some kind of ultra-clean dystopian police state < 1371601544 201668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like singapore lololol < 1371601551 418697 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if mirror's edge 2 is more about the arab spring mode of protest that would be kinda cool < 1371601554 350029 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~topical~ < 1371601614 994701 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand that it's not very obviously dystopian though < 1371601623 797090 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was one of the things the guy did not like < 1371601636 118049 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that like, the point of an ultra clean police state < 1371601657 17417 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a flimsy plot doomed a game to be "eviscerated" I would expect like, every reviewer ever to eviscerate call of duty or something < 1371601658 189323 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think by chapter 2 or 3 the politicians are framing your friend for murder < 1371601658 776868 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1371601667 55138 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i just linked to the thing < 1371601672 456030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember exactly but uh, it seemed pretty obviously dystopian to me < 1371601687 694565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole conceit is that these badass parkour couriers exist because electronic communications are all tapped < 1371601690 785687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought < 1371601691 223227 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.chocolatehammer.org/?p=750 <- "the thing" < 1371601695 936477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever, buy it, play it, don't puke < 1371601708 537883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's vastly more important that Phantom_Hoover buy System Shock 2 < 1371601709 126007 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is kind of why I don't like game reviewers much, I kind of feel like they come up with an opinion of a game, and then create lots of justifications for why they didn't like it or liked it, after the fact) < 1371601714 566529 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: call of duty's plot is hilarious though < 1371601720 956881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yep! i feel that way about most reviews of things actually < 1371601725 670238 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so much deeper than "russia invades so we can reenact the cold war" < 1371601733 588344 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the whole "~rationality~" thing of like < 1371601733 954711 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by deeper i mean lol < 1371601739 802918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: like every review of Season 4 of Community has to talk at length about how the show is Not The Same after Dan Harmon left < 1371601739 874425 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really a review but w/e < 1371601743 16054 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am rational, so I use rationality and logic to justify my arbitrary personal feelings < 1371601743 824453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it isn't < 1371601756 336007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also it seems like they were going to say that no matter what < 1371601760 632749 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Did that seem confusing or vague? It did?" er not really < 1371601768 969274 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading good reviews of things you like is great though! < 1371601781 235880 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And come to think of it, does the government really have such a tight grip on everything that rebels can only communicate by snail mail transported by Cirque du Soleil? I mean, I’m no tech expert, but I’m pretty sure there’s some type of electronic communication that can’t be easily intercepted." i um < 1371601786 706017 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmmmm < 1371601789 882672 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1371601794 427497 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume he means crypto < 1371601796 216373 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I still like. gosh, the parody xbox one presentation by that australian dude < 1371601826 598023 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: man you live in a country where the police can arrest you for not giving up your keys :/ < 1371601829 525612 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: the what? < 1371601840 932686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i assume they can do that in most countries, with a valid subpoena < 1371601843 118428 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KOxdMQhDMIU#t=2m45s < 1371601847 902793 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just that 5 seconds) < 1371601856 305303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also HOLA NSA < 1371601873 137602 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, that guy < 1371601873 398979 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola kmc < 1371601874 953460 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't english < 1371601888 8628 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :she said australian! < 1371601889 827281 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_political_jokes yesterday < 1371601896 916069 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some really fucking funny ones < 1371601898 362034 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1371601899 58373 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my headcanon is that this is actually how everyone in the world sees american shooter game type things < 1371601901 706076 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's not australian < 1371601905 181178 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1371601918 954368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :headcannon < 1371601927 522868 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. he's not? darnit <.< < 1371601945 985641 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i meant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_Investigatory_Powers_Act_2000 < 1371601949 688585 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd almost forgotten about the english/australian confusion < 1371601951 716799 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they need warrants for a lot of it < 1371601972 518557 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't live in the UK or know about it really. < 1371601976 689616 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: russian jokes own. < 1371601999 358369 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also recently i realised i can tell between australian and new zealand accents < 1371602001 525081 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was good < 1371602012 833592 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: oh lol that. < 1371602014 887282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too although i don't know if i can tell 'real' ones or just stereotyped ones < 1371602015 106383 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogs < 1371602025 575946 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"america's in trouble! and... guns." < 1371602027 407293 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogues < 1371602043 800671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I learned today that "to squizz" is .au english for "to look at / read / examine" < 1371602051 372717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like something much more gross to me < 1371602078 50347 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do those australians do it < 1371602082 941149 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«The principle of socialist economy of the period of transition to communism: the authorities pretend they are paying wages, workers pretend they are working. Alternately, "So long as the bosses pretend to pay us, we will pretend to work." This joke persisted essentially unchanged through the 1980s.» ok well that's depressing < 1371602083 49716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :upside down < 1371602100 329537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :communism: zero failure modes < 1371602136 655452 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No my friend, we will not live long enough to see communism, but our children... poor children" < 1371602158 480267 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: how do I tell the difference between english and australian accents ._. and what about the english in australia and australians and england and agh < 1371602170 518121 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg this one < 1371602172 8754 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Communism was a humour-producing machine. Its economic theories and system of repression created inherently funny situations. There were jokes under fascism and the Nazis too, but those systems did not create an absurd, laugh-a-minute reality like communism." < 1371602181 413860 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three men sit in a jail in (KGB headquarters) Dzerzhinsky Square. The first asks the second why he has been imprisoned, and he says, "Because I criticized Karl Radek." The first man responds, "But I am here because I spoke out in favor of Radek!" They turn to the third man who has been sitting quietly in the back, and ask him why he is in jail too. He responds, "I'm Karl Radek." < 1371602202 308888 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, 'they sound different' i guess? i dunno < 1371602224 405706 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternate between british comedies and something australian i guess < 1371602276 321384 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1371602306 691016 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://danbooru.donmai.us/data/sample/sample-3d41a11efe619c8899f6594ce6ab2242.jpg ooooh so that's the one this was referencing. I get it now < 1371602318 8176 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this just reminds me that i know people who say 30s USSR was fantastic, blergh < 1371602329 691140 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: lol < 1371602345 170877 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: wasn't that a parody of maoist PRC? < 1371602365 529591 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a two-part comic, the first part was the soviet union < 1371602370 484978 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second part was maoist PRC < 1371602371 583431 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good < 1371602388 763137 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh 1953 was stalin's death < 1371602419 476324 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1371602452 289280 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately i have now lost my familiarity with scottish accents < 1371602489 501956 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you scottish < 1371602530 499326 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but i go to university in england < 1371602531 409732 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unrelatedly i'm watching a boardsofcanada promotional video that seems to be entirely static < 1371602600 546575 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's the same as the albums < 1371602609 238410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :30s USSR was probably pretty good if you're an urban industrial worker and not being arbitrarily purged by stalin < 1371602647 173153 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess. i'm guessing these jokes were popular, though... < 1371602653 887764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1371602718 30277 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Jokes about Khrushchev are often related to his attempts to reform the economy, especially to introduce maize. He was even called kukuruznik (maizeman)" it's weird how corn wasn't a thing in the old world, man < 1371602762 682599 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are cornflakes actually made with corn < 1371602768 821804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird how many european countries are associated with a national cuisine that couldn't exist in the pre-columbian era < 1371602777 324248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomatoes in italy, potatoes in ireland < 1371602785 277282 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coffee too, right? < 1371602786 172559 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism_in_20_years it's great how this sounds exactly like transhumanism < 1371602788 976833 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chocolate definitely. < 1371602794 553060 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1371602797 917039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :communism in 20 years, fusion power in 30 < 1371602801 421649 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: according to my book on burma corn got so popular so fast that it is and was considered native < 1371602817 232755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't have tobacco in old europe either < 1371602819 129061 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1371602835 446160 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A follower of Sylvester Graham, the inventor of graham crackers and graham bread, Kellogg believed that spicy or sweet foods would increase passions." the invention of cornflakes < 1371602836 343856 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: meaning what < 1371602842 199036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah fuck that guy < 1371602865 174089 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: meaning if you asked a burmese farmer where corn came from they'd probably say their ancestors had been farming it for millenia. < 1371602865 315987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chute_tobacco.JPG tbh not sure what this guy is smoking is tobacco < 1371602868 846194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: haha < 1371602869 181070 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1371602887 478350 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how traditions are so often untraditional~ < 1371602901 308138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :corn is pretty cool. if you've invented nixtamalization i guess < 1371602907 563258 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how the fuck did people come up with stuff like that < 1371602920 229277 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude have you seen the grain corn evolved from? < 1371602923 694793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's mix some lye and ash into this food and see if it becomes better < 1371602924 698787 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know how people came up with corn < 1371602925 940908 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good plan bro < 1371602929 246123 :loleilo22!~root@224.Red-81-33-165.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371602929 794477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: which one is that < 1371602934 203336 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :teosinte < 1371602945 366618 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Teosinte_Jalisco.jpg look at this shit! < 1371602948 444619 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yes, let's farm this" < 1371602963 673798 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1371602973 692931 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just saying there was a fucking crazy mesoamerican agriculturalist back in the day < 1371602975 495221 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much of guns germs and steel is bullshit < 1371602987 906662 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of it < 1371602988 561135 :loleilo22!~root@224.Red-81-33-165.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net PART :#esoteric < 1371603023 291770 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Corncobs.jpg pretty < 1371603035 646725 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i haven't read it but) from what i understand anthropologists usually consider it to overemphasize geography (because, written by geographer) and they largely don't like geographic determinism, though they do think geography is important obviously < 1371603061 996853 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and iirc his numbers on spread of different crops are basically pulled out of his ass. < 1371603093 444413 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, each kernel is actually fertilised individually so you can actually use cobs as really neat demonstrations of mendelevian genetics < 1371603099 359094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1371603100 544038 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1371603122 156625 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are even two sets of really obvious dominant/recessive traits < 1371603138 228773 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time my parents accidentally crossed edible corn and indian corn < 1371603146 189110 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good demonstration of plant breeding (none of the result was edible) < 1371603165 179065 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1371603176 417542 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are your parents... farmers? < 1371603178 733888 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1371603197 571798 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wannabes < 1371603209 25835 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just a backyard garden < 1371603231 397902 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1371603234 600605 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lightweights < 1371603243 724440 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(are american farmers all the american version of posh?) < 1371603264 63944 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1371603265 418742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lived down the street from the Pioneer Hybrid experimental corn farm < 1371603293 174193 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's lots of kind of american farming, there's industrial farming and there's my neighbors, you know? < 1371603303 249256 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't describe either as posh < 1371603331 989788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in new hampshire and vermont it seemed like a lot of people had basically a suburban house with a small farm, near other suburban houses < 1371603333 718048 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you be posh if you know how to operate and repair combine harvesters < 1371603341 550599 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1371603351 400941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bigger and more farm-shaped than what you would call a 'backyard garden' and they had some livestock too < 1371603357 233154 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not enough to live from solely < 1371603369 526639 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only tory area in scotland is the one with lots of farmers and not much else < 1371603386 465887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could buy eggs at the store and they would have a handwritten label saying whose chickens they came from and you could go there and say hi to the chickens probably < 1371603426 862464 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas I grew up near a bunch of big industrial farms with buildings very far apart that can only be worked by expensive machines < 1371603448 410083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the industrial pig lots < 1371603450 844365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :smell fucking awful < 1371603488 893987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aiui pigs aren't really inherently dirty, but they aren't picky either < 1371603515 66811 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i eat eggs from chickens that live in my backyard. am i posh < 1371603520 811990 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1371603524 58589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's p. cool < 1371603525 633605 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many do you have < 1371603527 940150 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a middle-class thing, for sure < 1371603539 997644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a middle class thing and also a yuppie thing < 1371603542 239860 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :six < 1371603546 500317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how often do they lay < 1371603559 704047 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they used to all lay once a day but they don't any more < 1371603562 720752 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're gonna slaughter 'em soon < 1371603564 655083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1371603581 476418 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hatch an egg from each of them!! < 1371603590 902807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to grow oyster mushrooms at the new place, not any chickens though probably < 1371603595 44709 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«A frightened man came to the KGB. "My talking parrot disappeared." "This is not our case. Go to the criminal police." "Excuse me. Of course I know that I have to go to them. I am here just to tell you officially that I disagree with that parrot."» < 1371603596 284898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a rooster for that PH < 1371603600 307393 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: roosters are the actual worst though < 1371603623 915655 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a biologist! work something out! < 1371603651 212676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't have a rooster in a (sub)urban area < 1371603679 800030 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"My wife has been going to cooking school for three years." / "She must really cook well by now!" / "No, they've only reached the part about the Twentieth CPSU Congress so far." < 1371603688 458033 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not suburban, we just don't want to deal with roosters >_> < 1371603698 129703 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the neighbors' are already annoying enough < 1371603699 347645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how far is the nearest other house < 1371603701 109282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1371603705 101382 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you... live in the country < 1371603708 927337 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do < 1371603724 11890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you're in WA, are you going to start growing cannabis < 1371603728 651316 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the climate there support it < 1371603738 104465 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know where cannabis grows actually < 1371603743 590483 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the climate here is basically: wet < 1371603748 735799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a video about how to grow weed indoor; it seems like a pretty fun project; I kind of wish I'd done it when I was in college and the risks were minimal < 1371603816 722273 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeltsin's aide approaches him and says, "Mister President, two guests are here to see you: the Pope, and the director of the International Monetary Fund. Who shall I show in first?" Yeltsin thinks for a moment, then says: "Show in the Pope; at least I only have to kiss his ring." < 1371603845 102559 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike, these are terrible < 1371603857 835987 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mo like awesome < 1371603883 672274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you can grow pot in WA i'm pretty sure < 1371603890 931250 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think the main obstacle to growing weed right now is that the licensing system isn't implemented yet < 1371603895 589364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of it is grown in norcal (it's 1/3 of the economy in mendocino county) < 1371603904 80217 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, main legal obstacle < 1371603905 220658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the #1 cash crop statewide < 1371603913 448000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nwpr.org/post/indoor-marijuana-grows-could-hamper-seattles-climate-change-goals < 1371603915 659209 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. why did i even ask about the climate? they already grow tons of weed up the road < 1371603955 197819 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's like the most seattle thing i've ever seen. < 1371603964 234160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :says outdoor grows are easier east of the cascades < 1371603975 539797 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :east of the cascades is basically all farms, so < 1371604021 650906 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's near-desert, the contrast with the west here is kinda neat. < 1371604089 888813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1371604173 132888 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the school i'm going to is in the east too, it's farm school as fuck < 1371604312 578247 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get there i took this road: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_State_Route_26 which had like three towns in seventy miles, which i took mostly at 100 mph < 1371604575 306117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nicu < 1371604577 566793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice* < 1371604614 187717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://labs.spotify.com/2013/06/18/creative-usernames/ < 1371604845 870457 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :8but do they support SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW? < 1371604961 19123 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that's a nasty attack < 1371605001 449298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1371605036 920317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you read the hunting of the snark < 1371605038 702074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1371605041 898168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1371605050 623500 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you even reliably fold case across languages < 1371605053 38908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i paste 12 lines of it in here........................ y/n < 1371605056 680336 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems lie it might be intractable < 1371605058 167480 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1371605066 689985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :y not < 1371605076 592402 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, turkish, for one < 1371605077 28913 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that;s a lot of lines < 1371605119 294859 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Case_folding#Turkish_i.2FI_etc. that doesn't seem hard < 1371605134 101077 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess this is called "normalization", oops < 1371605222 603811 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like the least hassle would just be having people pick an account and display name separately and make the account name publicly accessible < 1371605227 366874 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that paper i read on burmese unicode involved things like using zero-width spaces to mark syllable boundaries... optionally < 1371605242 555946 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: and the account name has to be ascii? < 1371605254 494952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what twitter does i guess < 1371605259 197877 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1371605286 30743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what kind of awesome username he would pick on a site that forced Cyrillic usernames < 1371605286 465913 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not ideal but it does work < 1371605296 468118 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :give everyone a meaningless ID number, and then have a displayed name? < 1371605308 202701 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i call "Кракозя́бры" < 1371605316 750064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: but when you log in you need to provide some ID < 1371605324 890380 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1371605324 998612 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1371605336 25172 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make people remember the number ("but that sucks" "so does everything") < 1371605350 681267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gutenberg.org/files/13/13-h/13-h.htm hth < 1371605355 488226 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, that's what AW does... not for a particularly good reason though, Unicode names weren't supported until 5.0 < 1371605355 774126 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for people who just flat out don't know ascii you could have a 'create random name' button and tell them to remember it < 1371605402 901669 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so same as mine. < 1371605402 973779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: shitty UX < 1371605402 973991 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UX? < 1371605405 757299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :user xperience < 1371605413 567594 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw :( < 1371605425 927425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He had bought a large map representing the sea, / Without the least vestige of land: / And the crew were much pleased when they found it to be / A map they could all understand. "What's the good of Mercator's North Poles and Equators, / Tropics, Zones, and Meridian Lines?" / So the Bellman would cry: and the crew would reply / "They are merely conventional signs! < 1371605427 846052 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry but consumer apps will always choose the pleasant UX over the move that theoretically makes certain security holes go away < 1371605430 337272 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, i already have my SSN and uni ID# memorized, why not pile more onto that < 1371605431 33151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Other mps are such shapes, with teheir islands and capes! / But we've got our brave Captain to thank:" / (So the crew would protest) "that he's bought us the best— / A perfect and absolute blank!" < 1371605434 936645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1371605441 953271 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and my phone number i guess < 1371605445 160225 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically i hate everything. < 1371605446 109171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :two lines got merged into one line "sry" < 1371605450 25522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by lines i mean verses < 1371605474 738620 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(are there keyboards without ascii readily accessible on them?) < 1371605482 234265 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole of ascii? < 1371605486 209736 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't type control characters < 1371605490 220895 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1371605490 851189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, yes you can. < 1371605496 463583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what the Control key is for. < 1371605497 82177 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started saying ascii instead of latin a while back < 1371605506 661640 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i've kind of committed < 1371605516 879322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ban Phantom_Hoover hth < 1371605519 27572 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1371605527 952367 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help why < 1371605535 737542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well 'latin' could include a lot of diacritis and stuff < 1371605540 295481 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371605541 553105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just all of ISO-8859-1 < 1371605547 935460 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'english' :P < 1371605562 61775 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: but yeah if you have a turkish keyboard or whatever and you don't need "c" it's not gonna be obviously there < 1371605563 863394 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc. if you're going to be a pedant that still includes non-ascii characters < 1371605611 252249 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think japanese keyboards maybe usually only allow fullwidth input i dunno < 1371605636 571324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still have a 40 bit WEP key from 2005 memorized < 1371605650 462086 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:800px-KB_Thai_Kedmanee.png < 1371605651 67449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still have a list of words from third grade memorized. < 1371605653 707599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We all memorized them! < 1371605668 70389 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, not even arabic numbers < 1371605684 9265 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe this problem would be better attacked by psychologists... < 1371605696 24297 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have them figure out what can be (a) easily typed (b) easily remembered (c) not easily guessed? < 1371605712 710168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :binyan chevel matos orev falafel bateriyot kfitz dam nechashim chol maghetz prachim shvil yeled savta < 1371605719 649195 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you not want it guessed... < 1371605727 514059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet every classmate I had in third grade remembers that list. < 1371605732 14790 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's for passwords since that's what i was complaining about earlier. < 1371605741 246059 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1371605747 533503 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, on that note. I got my password reset! I called in and recited my ID# and birthdate. < 1371605750 543479 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. secure < 1371605767 175873 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(do unicode passwords end up being messy? i mean i can't see there being any problems) < 1371605781 497030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WEP is so bad < 1371605796 960142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: there's a lot of potential for false negatives on the password check < 1371605799 152254 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is WEP the one that's super easily crackable < 1371605806 913683 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always get it confused with WPA < 1371605812 674100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to normalize to prevent that < 1371605822 738777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and users might still include invisible characters by mistake < 1371605829 294102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah it's the one < 1371605837 46456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they used RC4 with a 24 bit IV < 1371605840 458145 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, i'm working on the assumption that people probably aren't going to use crazy alternate glyphs for their own passwords < 1371605843 969664 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1371605845 38536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For a 24-bit IV, there is a 50% probability the same IV will repeat after 5000 packets." < 1371605852 248568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: they might use different computers and different input modes though < 1371605856 511073 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that was pretty great. < 1371605858 203807 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1371605864 684347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1.2 * sqrt (2^24) < 1371605866 34694 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4915.2 < 1371605867 145315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg it works < 1371605871 421769 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much scope for difference is there with input modes < 1371605874 524886 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, in ISO 8859-1 the letter 'ç' can only be represented as the single character E7 'ç', but in a Unicode encoding it can be represented as the single character U+00E7 'ç' or the sequence U+0063 'c' U+0327 '¸'. In HTML it could be additionally represented as ç or ç or ç (five equivalent representations in total). < 1371605883 487660 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is in the web report on normalization; seems like a pretty good example < 1371605888 264063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1371605897 436352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that 1.2 * sqrt n thing p. great < 1371605899 52707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo yes < 1371605912 290091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why 1.2? < 1371605914 289364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1371605915 476159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i "h8 apprxmtions" < 1371605918 118775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a fake logarithm < 1371605923 637794 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sqrt (2^24) < 1371605924 713903 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4096.0 < 1371605936 925887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1.2 * sqrt 365 < 1371605937 954800 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 22.925967809451357 < 1371605953 417299 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is unicode so fond of alternate glyphs anyway < 1371605955 240194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the birthday probability thing for a 50% chance of collision when there are N days. < 1371605964 42431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: round trip compatibility with legacy encodings < 1371605990 657570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this design goal is perhaps regrettable, but it's very useful sometimes < 1371605999 178068 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it useful for < 1371606004 7431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember the exact derivation... < 1371606004 464956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example it means your programming language can have a single type for "text", and only think about encodings on input and output < 1371606010 835942 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1371606022 854248 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more useful than computer manipulation of some characters being ridiculously fiddly? < 1371606040 888913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to (say) ruby where the bytes making up a string are observable, and the encoding is stored as metadata that can be inaccurate < 1371606063 738543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruby 1.9 is much better than 1.8 about things. < 1371606077 421241 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure you could handle "text" generically in any way that isn't fiddly as hell < 1371606084 982325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't the cool kids using 2.0 now < 1371606097 582507 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did Ruby do the dumb thing and kill call/cc yet? < 1371606105 455147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I have to imagine you would need some notion of normalization even without the legacy encoding design goal < 1371606112 51500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example what about the order in which combining chars are applied < 1371606121 739665 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh that was in the burma thing too. < 1371606130 936491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruby killed callcc and then brought it back, < 1371606132 730670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/.$/./ < 1371606135 992612 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the normalization scheme involved the pagelong regex i mentioned eariler. < 1371606151 693218 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good scheme" < 1371606250 998718 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"an EBCDIC style sheet being directly applied to an ASCII document, or a font specification in a Shift_JIS style sheet directly used on a system that maintains font names in UTF-16" the horror...... < 1371606292 868484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the hacks where XSS sanitization becomes ineffective if you convince the user to switch their browser to Shift-JIS < 1371606305 544870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if an attacker does, I mean < 1371606342 189303 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have we considered, like, abandoning the concept of writing < 1371606344 192405 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for security reasons < 1371606375 321179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember the stripe ctf thing where we had different solutions < 1371606395 748174 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can just communicate with hand gestures and grunting < 1371606398 417167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine was embedding inside some json text < 1371606421 114361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember your solution < 1371606434 356540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :was your solution the fact that there was a bug in the ctf and it just gave you a cookie with secret information < 1371606443 213158 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, no < 1371606451 311109 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo we should consider it. < 1371606456 186351 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :attackers might punch people < 1371606462 446630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was my solution shachaf < 1371606477 583302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know about the trick at the time < 1371606479 439029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good solution < 1371606485 452693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you solved three levels that way right < 1371606493 1846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so < 1371606498 471030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1371606502 112733 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: we have robust security protocols for dealing with that though! (shooting them) < 1371606503 573945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was the only one where I didn't get the "right" solution < 1371606503 791941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they mentioned that three levels had that bug < 1371606507 718519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1371606510 630555 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. powerful attack imo < 1371606516 698033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's super effective < 1371606530 295044 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if "..." -> "…" could count as normalization < 1371606533 759737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you identify with the main character in unicode < 1371606539 798409 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, attackers might goad users into punching them < 1371606551 649261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you identify with the main character in main is usually a function < 1371606560 158827 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: entrapment!! < 1371606586 590015 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc you're all about mushrooms right < 1371606591 112401 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you make booze with them < 1371606608 427640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Menlo Park, CA, United States 06/18/2013 6:27 A.M. Out For Delivery < 1371606616 202298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are my books..........did they die < 1371606647 547711 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«In some of the following examples, '¸' is used to depict the character U+0327 combining cedilla, for the purposes of illustration. Had a real U+0327 been used instead of this spacing (non-combining) variant, some browsers might combine it with a preceding 'c', resulting in a display indistinguishable from a U+00E7 'ç' and a loss of understandability of the examples. In addition, if the sequence c + combining cedilla were present, ... < 1371606653 571573 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... this document would not be include-normalized.» help < 1371606656 90696 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what books < 1371606671 393291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fictional books < 1371606677 407931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're full of things that never actually happened < 1371606701 546250 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1371606714 18050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they're double-fictional < 1371606725 284032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you switch to tmux yet? < 1371606891 769607 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371607040 669274 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bitpremier.com/items/view/37 < 1371607107 476230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i switched, now i've switched back to screen mostly < 1371607111 530259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because screen stopped segfaulting < 1371607132 563246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i don't know about that < 1371607136 578278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :will ask a friend one sec < 1371607155 133269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but what about 1D74F MATHEMATICAL BOLD ITALIC PARTIAL DIFFERENTIAL [𝝏] < 1371607176 728593 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the protein content makes them useless for it < 1371607183 912345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1D7C7 MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF BOLD ITALIC PHI SYMBOL [𝟇] < 1371607196 593321 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1D7A5 MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL PHI [𝞥] < 1371607201 805466 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god. < 1371607202 154370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good codepoints < 1371607210 975262 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have you wrought, unicode. < 1371607215 649699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay my books < 1371607217 254532 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it not CAPITAL PHI SYMBOL < 1371607219 222575 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many questions < 1371607278 826214 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1371607280 444056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: she thinks it's unlikely < 1371607289 91752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who stick those stickers on the backs of books..................... < 1371607311 453127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mushrooms don't contain much carbohydrates and when they do, it's usually something like trehalose that generally can't be digested < 1371607316 537968 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you in CA now? < 1371607325 186947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: not yet; leaving next thursday < 1371607325 769288 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, damn < 1371607330 731647 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwarf fortress is ruined now < 1371607342 160651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened in df < 1371607356 675355 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone posted a huge thing about it in the subreddit? < 1371607368 5277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: You should come visit! < 1371607370 95202 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: already have a job or gonna look for one there? < 1371607372 172851 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the worst < 1371607372 667343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like they are sometimes used as additives in beer < 1371607373 591803 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how that ruins it, but hey < 1371607378 493680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: I'm going to be working at Mozilla < 1371607380 913830 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'd love to :P competing interests < 1371607383 326037 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, forgot < 1371607383 478543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :working on Servo, the new browser written in Rust < 1371607388 101001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be fun times < 1371607393 17176 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :new browser huh < 1371607394 734413 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool :) < 1371607398 137266 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :excitin < 1371607402 670392 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what part will you be working on, do you know < 1371607417 431745 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, well, it's just a new rendering engine for now, and they've just progressed to the point where you can, like, click on links < 1371607420 431408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's still early days < 1371607420 795266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it big enough that people are working on "parts" < 1371607435 836068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they are pretty serious about it eventually being a real thing < 1371607451 916323 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think I'm like the second or third full time paid employee working on Servo specifically < 1371607456 956186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the dev to date has been done by the Rust team < 1371607464 481322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's all open source so they have various others contributing < 1371607472 655671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bunch of people at Samsung are contributing to Rust and Servo now < 1371607481 75792 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolrust < 1371607492 148355 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why does kmc have +v < 1371607500 238849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seized it in a bloodless coup < 1371607506 455050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(all stranglings) < 1371607511 194740 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like this is unhfairly discriminating against mutes < 1371607518 798527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what do you think of rust < 1371607529 725618 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think it needs to actually be thought about < 1371607532 632270 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than just built < 1371607612 551717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mozilla seems like a fantastic place to work < 1371607636 536463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they pay... quite well, especially for being a non-profit < 1371607721 773847 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1371607725 859330 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg monies < 1371607750 403722 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :what funds them? < 1371607761 773296 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the google mafia < 1371607795 566087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :google pays them mad cash to have google be the default search engine in firefox < 1371607806 337553 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon capitalism will be replaced by the "get google to pay you" economy < 1371607808 274973 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1371607810 858101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically yes < 1371607819 115639 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that's it? < 1371607823 946622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's most of their revenue yeah < 1371607826 776607 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit < 1371607833 110407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have similar partnerships with other search engines in other countries < 1371607835 341542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know right? < 1371607836 912676 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't they employ hundreds of devs? < 1371607853 776371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On 20 December 2011 Mozilla announced that the contract was once again renewed for at least three years to November 2014, at three times the amount previously paid, or nearly US$300 million annually.[11][12] Approximately 85% of Mozilla’s revenue for 2006 was derived from this contract. < 1371607859 61396 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in their recent deal with google they got 3x the previous rate, thanks to a bidding war between google and msft < 1371607860 592993 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1371607866 709640 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's crazy < 1371607868 629823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah they have over 600 employees total < 1371607871 990334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like a dozen really nice offices < 1371607873 407937 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally stable business model, there < 1371607885 510745 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind blown :) < 1371607898 940842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the current contract is locked in until november 2014 < 1371607903 622954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they think that if google stops paying, they can get other companies easily < 1371607908 787255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless FF market share takes a nosedive of course < 1371607912 229698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they care a lot about that ;P < 1371607916 322455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does opera make any money that way < 1371607918 716930 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see why google's putting a lot of weight behind chrome :) < 1371607929 650190 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's google get its revenue anyway. is it ads like seems obvious or do they sacrifice children or what < 1371607933 994045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly ads < 1371607943 629088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so they say... could be laundering money from child sacrifices < 1371607989 420721 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pay good money to watch gruesome child-death < 1371608002 902988 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't y'all? < 1371608003 660342 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Royale < 1371608020 223797 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :google's whole business model is about providing services to get more people on the web, and giving stuff away for free so that nobody else can charge for it < 1371608021 100013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: no more than five dola < 1371608033 499507 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they are the best at ads < 1371608040 745854 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that sounds really cynical when you put it that way < 1371608046 385446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't care if you use gmail or some other webmail that also serves google ads ;P < 1371608056 418701 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: *shrug* google gotta get paid < 1371608063 56356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't fault them for being a for profit company < 1371608072 727816 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's not surprising, i just hadn't thought of it that way < 1371608111 654710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why they made Android; Apple was on the way to a smartphone monopoly, and if they had that monopoly they could start to undermine Google's whole deal < 1371608119 680202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the Apple model is about paying for content in a walled garden < 1371608147 909685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean if Apple had such a monopoly they could chip away at the very idea that search and maps etc. should be ubiquitous free services < 1371608181 304012 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if a company comes around with a model based on ads being a free service < 1371608185 766893 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1371608191 770031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡¡¡ < 1371608196 764670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doom < 1371608196 990901 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1371608199 422360 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1371608220 365146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Petronius the Arbiter is a good name for a cat. < 1371608302 747180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :While still a kitten, all fluff and buzzes, Pete had worked out a simple philosophy. I was in charge of quarters, rations, and weather; he was in charge of everything else. But he held me especially responsible for weather. Connecticut winters are good only for Christmas cards; regularly that winter Pete would check his own door, refuse to go out it because of that unpleasant white stuff beyond it (he was no fool), then badger me to open a ... < 1371608308 739851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :... people door. < 1371608311 252045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He had a fixed conviction that at least one of them must lead into summer weather. Each time this meant that I had to go around with him to each of eleven doors, hold it open while he satisfied himself that it was winter out that way, too, then go on to the next door, while his criticisms of my mismanagement grew more bitter with each disappointment. < 1371608354 919408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote doom YES oh no < 1371608358 685559 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1054) doom YES oh no < 1371608475 460319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: haha Google Royale < 1371608490 887954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me I should watch The Internship, that terrible movie / 2 hour ad for Google that came out recently < 1371608496 987151 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol really < 1371608521 196544 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered all the alternatives you have to watching it < 1371608524 120440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as not watching it < 1371608544 900526 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it about < 1371608551 752703 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beyond "an internship" i guess < 1371608555 174988 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what... is google royale < 1371608589 272902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about two old guys who have to compete with a bunch of Kids These Days for an internship at google < 1371608590 550368 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pun on Battle Royale < 1371608600 882769 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1371608602 886574 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a japanese movie about kids killing each other < 1371608605 679753 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the opposite of a pun < 1371608614 478826 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mom is the opposite of a pun < 1371608907 253357 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do there, in fact, exist programmers that know what they're doing? < 1371608907 883214 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i just realized that STEM means basically nothing. how do i deal with this < 1371608914 717542 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody knows what they're doing < 1371608917 295636 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people don't know things < 1371608919 740643 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :folk psychology < 1371608924 82517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what i'm doing < 1371608929 826399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also so do most people, roughly < 1371608944 632191 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two sides of the debate < 1371608951 385751 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the truth is in the middle < 1371608954 960411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1371608979 143907 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no the truth is obviously to one side < 1371608983 779121 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(try applying your doctrine now, hah) < 1371609007 847707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the truth is in the 1/4 or 3/4 position < 1371609019 992135 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The truth has an asymtotic curve towards one side. < 1371609082 407439 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1371609092 192716 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't make sense Sgeo < 1371609103 433688 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the truth doesn't make sense < 1371609114 877755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't handle the truth < 1371609117 983875 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't make snes < 1371609144 515445 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Truth is center, truth is a side, truth is somewhere between those two except it's to one side, so let's go between those except it's to a side, so... < 1371609160 615137 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a song lyric < 1371609174 802169 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope so < 1371609179 936141 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise < 1371609180 344537 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same < 1371609181 450921 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo... < 1371609186 845622 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same < 1371609195 295092 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was under the impression that this entire conversation was silly... < 1371609236 406992 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1371609499 518312 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1371609769 379650 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1371609776 27902 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1371609794 299074 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1371609811 132842 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371610386 586174 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're moving to California you have to inspect all of your stuff for gypsy moths < 1371610409 624363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess < 1371610418 924923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this didn't happen the first time I moved to California < 1371610446 873165 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't they always been strict about invasives? when we drove down there a couple years ago they stopped us at the border to search for oranges < 1371610486 674744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1371610742 149465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :szechuan pepper used to be banned for import to the US because it can carry a citrus disease < 1371611622 170148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How thorough is the inspection? < 1371611642 857586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a self-inspection < 1371611644 871430 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had to open containers and stuff < 1371611649 874101 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the guard < 1371611672 464368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's not everything, they have a checklist mostly of stuff that is stored outside, camping gear, things like that < 1371611919 24209 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what do you mean by "STEM means basically nothing" < 1371611936 914743 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what's it supposed to include? < 1371611973 607862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :science, technology, engineering, and math < 1371611998 590637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some grey areas, that doesn't mean it's meaningless < 1371612004 615393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a very STEM attitude ;) < 1371612020 417701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote formalist < 1371612020 533206 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :SaulGorn says: A formalist is one who cannot understand a theory unless it is meaningless. < 1371612021 112817 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardy har. But I mean, the NSF and others define it differently, etc < 1371612111 375494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but their definitions are not totally divergent right < 1371612135 258458 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one's a subset of the other, i guess < 1371612161 718044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did this observation come out of a more specific inconsistency between them? < 1371612192 793490 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the reason i was thinking about it is that computational neuroscience counts me as STEM at school, even though i don't think biosciences generally do < 1371612201 539937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming is cool because it's variously considered S, T, E, or M and people will argue forever about which it is < 1371612207 8854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is bioscience not science < 1371612213 173649 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell if i know < 1371612220 684692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's very weird < 1371612223 524815 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who says it isn't? < 1371612239 514753 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's because of that thing where like, "STEM" tends to mean whatever the speaker thinks of as ~real sciences for real men~ type of thing < 1371612245 560555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The NSF uses a broader category to define STEM subjects which includes subjects in the fields of Chemistry, Computer and Information Technology Science, Engineering, Geosciences, Life Science..." < 1371612265 454039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1371612282 214129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all bioscience can't be nearly as hard as building daily deals sites in rails < 1371612283 474360 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :US ICE doesn't list straight biology as STEM, looks like < 1371612301 635956 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like is sociology a STEM? < 1371612303 663207 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean it's science < 1371612307 844123 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is psychology science enough? < 1371612330 630787 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSF and ICE list it < 1371612334 133918 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or economics? I mean that's math, right? it's like. where do you draw the line? < 1371612347 733109 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(man why does the DHS even have this list. immigration policy is so fucked) < 1371612356 803398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i know right < 1371612374 271048 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"welp you got your degree and could start a lucrative business now so GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE COUNTRY" < 1371612387 618147 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Digital Communication and Media/Multimedia" is STEM < 1371612399 51591 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really have an opinion on whether social science should be included in "STEM" < 1371612401 951264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just... don't care < 1371612417 603702 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well mostly i think that like, the whole policy it's based around is pretty stupid regardless < 1371612432 582264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on context i'm sure. like people often talk about getting young kids interested in STEM, and in that case it's more about some fundamental skills that are applicable in lots of fields < 1371612435 705024 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what's the idea? we need more engineers but not more doctors so let's put more money into engineering education? < 1371612436 640414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you know, math < 1371612444 992408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and about making it seem exciting < 1371612463 946467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what's wrong with that kind of government policy < 1371612476 439375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think their reasoning for needing more engineers is wrong, that's one thing < 1371612487 808017 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it might work if you were more specific, but just science in general seems pretty vague? < 1371612495 661381 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just fund postsecondary education at that point < 1371612506 288023 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of things that are clearly not STEM < 1371612511 651477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1371612515 645381 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :culinary sciences < 1371612517 584337 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that STEM? XD < 1371612521 496215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'molecular gastronomy' < 1371612529 467755 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow they list four different "Computer Programming" programs < 1371612531 309622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear that term was invented to secure space at a scientific conference < 1371612540 612822 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: no, but food science is < 1371612554 919489 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"food science"? < 1371612570 887494 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea, this just has names < 1371612597 131192 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ceramic Sciences and Engineering < 1371612606 552989 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is all the list for immigration) < 1371612624 840141 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw yiss they list mechatronics. i need to get in on that < 1371612682 319714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Gracenotes to california < 1371612684 181720 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: to: california: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1371612685 165969 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Packaging Science. ????? < 1371612695 905925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. That's how you welcome people! < 1371612732 772957 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do air, cars, laptops, plants, knee-replacements and lunch have in common? They all can be and are packaged! Students majoring in packaging science learn all about the design, engineering, science, innovation, research and business that make up this diverse industry. For more then 20 years, Clemson has been thinking outside of the box and producing career-ready graduates who are ready to solve the problems of tomorrow. Clemson is ... < 1371612738 849171 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... one of just seven schools in the U.S. that offer a degree in packaging science. Our program is unique as it blends together biology, chemistry and physics so when you graduate you can fill a need within industry. Since this is a very hands-on major, you’ll get to work with package design and graphics, food and health care packaging and advanced materials. < 1371612771 106481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"outside of the box" I GET IT < 1371612788 802910 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the kind of thinking you'll learn in this program, kmc < 1371612801 45399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :□ < 1371612810 18052 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazon hired package scientists to design its new ecofriendly packaging tape, I'm sure < 1371612816 749422 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what the hell biology has to do with it though. < 1371612830 189788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like ▣ < 1371612830 552857 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like... dealing with rotting, maybe? < 1371612842 444222 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how WHITE SQAURE is black on my terminal < 1371612853 57839 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :typo* < 1371612882 861123 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strategic Intelligence is STEM... that sounds like a military thing < 1371612896 565435 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :General Intelligence is too and i have no idea what that is. can you major in being smart? < 1371612927 276627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/ggZ5yAJ.png ok when it comes down to it, I'm a pretty immature guy < 1371612961 973136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you call a function when for any x there's some n such that f^n(x) = f^{n+1}(x)? < 1371612965 527655 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really need to petition for combining penis again < 1371612994 910432 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, good question. < 1371613069 427457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: character is already in use http://achewood.com/index.php?date=07022008 < 1371613136 34290 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i can think is that it's not continuous which isn't really helpful < 1371613163 464699 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'll start the petition right away < 1371613165 230841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not continuous? < 1371613174 393060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so iterating on every input eventually reaches a fixed point? < 1371613178 865233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than some kind of cycle < 1371613185 531476 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or infinitely flying off somewhere < 1371613198 25330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably a term for this in chaos theory / dynamical systems < 1371613203 143731 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's where i would look anyway < 1371613231 656164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1371613255 595248 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's sort of like a limit set but not < 1371613325 60781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"eventually idempotent" is a term that comes to mind... < 1371613368 154303 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, apparently someone else has used that term, too. < 1371613380 204411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://linguistics.berkeley.edu/~phorum/pdf/roa_823.pdf < 1371613395 919975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew linguistics :'( < 1371613847 983292 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1371613847 983375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1371613849 597607 :samebchase!~samuel@codesurfers.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1371613849 597691 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes QUIT :*.net *.split < 1371613919 85053 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1371613919 85222 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1371613919 85304 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1371613963 439649 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1371613963 558866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1371613963 558943 :samebchase!~samuel@codesurfers.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371613963 558978 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1371613963 559012 :verne.freenode.net MODE #esoteric +v kmc : > 1371613963 831738 NAMES :#esoteric < 1371614026 22986 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371614026 315437 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1371614026 387275 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1371614040 589152 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1371614041 12955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1371614043 102806 :samebchase!~samuel@codesurfers.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1371614043 102979 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes QUIT :*.net *.split < 1371614043 187803 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i checked with a dynamics guy and he couldn't think of a special term for it... < 1371614141 528357 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1371614141 600156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1371614141 600316 :samebchase!~samuel@codesurfers.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371614141 600400 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1371614141 600481 :verne.freenode.net MODE #esoteric +v kmc : > 1371614141 624527 NAMES :#esoteric < 1371614150 921650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will continue to use "eventually idempotent", then. < 1371614173 894783 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, seems descriptive enough. < 1371614259 327557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems good except in a setting where you already have an important notion of time < 1371614270 556233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1371614274 953351 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you could say that there aren't any cycles of period > 1. < 1371614310 150565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is necessary but not sufficient for an infinite codomain < 1371614322 389447 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, duh, yeah. < 1371614335 802511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made the same mistake :) < 1371614370 384131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, biodegradable packaging :) < 1371614382 551948 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er? < 1371614394 570053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what biology has to do with packaging science < 1371614400 997167 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's what i was thinking < 1371614415 589268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: model checking is "p. cool huh" < 1371614437 979539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think so, haven't done any in a long time tho < 1371614454 621100 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep-the-food-fresh packaging "the biology is for what the heck is that food doing in there what makes it spoil" < 1371614462 515283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you looked at Alloy? http://alloy.mit.edu/alloy/ < 1371614467 389641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like model checking but not < 1371614469 944444 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting stuff < 1371614476 424242 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??model checking but not?? < 1371614479 959407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: a monad is like a biodegradable package hth < 1371614484 164029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1371614538 971355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo all packaging should come pre-inoculated with oyster mushroom spawn < 1371614574 318397 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparenty, PHP is case-insensitive for functions, but case-sensitive for variables. < 1371614580 86149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe a monad is like a room where the walls keep moving in and you can't escape and you get crushed < 1371614586 537046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am i doing the thing i hate < 1371614592 854035 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: probably so that constants work? < 1371614614 208863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hilarious < 1371614624 5398 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. somebody really wanted a variable called $_post < 1371614648 472513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo death to php < 1371614651 735083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I casein-sensitiive < 1371614660 792909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ii/i/ < 1371614668 450565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is my keyboard producing double letters? < 1371614676 740868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It started when I spilled some liquid in it. < 1371614684 156826 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think? I never noticed it before. < 1371614690 953200 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I don't have an opinion in the great case-insensitive vs case-sensitive debate, but I think straddling the line is probably the worst of the options < 1371614693 28398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I'm making things up. < 1371614710 371028 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a name for the golden mean fallacy applied in the situation where the mean is in fact the worst possible option? < 1371614719 838838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: very courageous of you to suggest that php does something badly < 1371614724 42969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in here < 1371614751 272886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i would describe that result as 'worst of both worlds' but that doesn't specifically invoke the fallacy < 1371614805 656603 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, that phrase also implies that it's the negative features of each side that are prominent, when it's really just the inconsistency < 1371614810 287557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1371614811 78526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1371614839 11103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'shifting the overton window in programming languages' would be a good title for probably a bad article < 1371614846 779574 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, there has to be something worse. Maybe case-sensitive if compilation starts on an even second of the minute, case-insensitive otherwise? < 1371614850 900359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1371614923 678762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be an interesting article but i don't have any ideas on how to actually do that so i won't write it < 1371614956 166212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :CoYoneda . Is = (->) < 1371614958 489879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that great ht < 1371614960 24742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1371615014 484637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are some good non-functor types to give to CoYoneda < 1371615250 402970 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Is < 1371615251 118567 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor `Is' < 1371615251 199741 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `In' (imported from Lambdabot.Plugin.Haskell.Eval.Trusted) < 1371615268 245290 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait that was dumb. oh well < 1371615271 917250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that your leibniz equality thing agai < 1371615272 609831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1371615275 579319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1371615278 576989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just gadt equality < 1371615281 525132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1371615283 627385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it doesn't matter here < 1371615289 353059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Is a b where Refl :: Is a a < 1371615289 451054 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: GADTs is not enabled < 1371615294 75631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott................... < 1371615306 582412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Is a b = (a ~ b) => Refl < 1371615306 693968 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: TypeFamilies is not enabled < 1371615312 464678 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1371615312 906641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott.......................................................... < 1371615327 902879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it hardly matters. < 1371615336 637124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's Leibniz equality. < 1371615344 392780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by elimination :) < 1371615354 52989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let newtype Is a b = Is { subst :: forall p. p a -> p b } < 1371615354 151545 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: TypeOperators is not enabled < 1371615364 966066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott.............................................................................................................................................................................. < 1371615383 256285 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you already knew typeoperators wasn't enabled. < 1371615399 464150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does TypeOperators have to do with it? < 1371615402 400689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't using TypeOperators. I was using RankNTypes. < 1371615408 464642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it isn't seeing forall as a keyword. < 1371615413 537386 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And instead seeing . as an operator.) < 1371615414 233519 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you used it before, o well < 1371615427 456255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :try ∀ instead, hth < 1371615466 506977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ȁ < 1371615467 416057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1371615471 531725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hjälp < 1371615488 899029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ḧël̈p̈ < 1371615504 294602 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language uses LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH DOUBLE GRAVE < 1371615524 321547 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo all of them < 1371615526 183808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dead language hth < 1371615545 217927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(THE JOKE IS GRAVE) < 1371615548 831247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(DOUBLE GRAVE) < 1371615551 908861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(BECAUSE IT DIED) < 1371615552 944005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like, the joke is dire < 1371615553 15906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(TWICE) < 1371615565 403415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :has shachaf finally snapped? tune in next week < 1371615569 956272 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres a double joke whereby "hth" is a dead horse (RIP) < 1371615586 892365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ban mnoqy hth < 1371615777 709509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when does a monqy become a mnoqy < 1371616100 364245 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the heck other than the US do you have a program in "Joint Command Task Force Systems"; relatedly i'm feeling pretty bitter how much of the immigration "STEM" is military < 1371616117 764557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1371616134 251109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet in german they have a single word for that < 1371616135 462380 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1371616143 671389 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is it any shorter < 1371616150 470509 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also "Undersea Warfare" which is definitely onewordgermanic < 1371616822 104933 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1371617212 215957 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was originally wondering about the idempotence thing because of that creative-usernames thing, for what it's worth.) < 1371617260 54191 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. heh. < 1371617274 988623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah < 1371618291 38392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome´ < 1371618292 441648 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: welcome´: not found < 1371618394 37549 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1371618774 267506 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«For example, finding all occurences of «homogenos» [sic] allowing two errors in a one megabyte bibliographic text takes about 0.4 seconds on a SUN SparcStation II, which is about twice as fast as running the program egrep (which will not find anything because of the misspelling)» programmers sure are cheeky sometimes < 1371618788 509374 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«We actually used this example and found a misspelling in our text.» < 1371619245 37136 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sun sparcstation ii..sounds aight.. < 1371619268 57513 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fastest chip in the west < 1371619271 910761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: what does "aight" mean < 1371619282 175026 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a(lr)ight with a sexy accent < 1371619302 816410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "a(lr)ight" mean < 1371619468 112163 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does anything mean < 1371619699 464875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alalr(1)ight < 1371621533 830345 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1371622223 8817 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1371622223 8878 :surma!uid6361@c-base/crew/surma QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1371622223 8914 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1371622223 8948 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1371622223 8984 :glogbot!~glogbot@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1371622229 406661 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371622232 166384 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric > 1371622233 530844 JOIN :#esoteric > 1371622234 46655 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371622520 71888 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1371623703 165561 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1371623905 924900 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1371623925 766255 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me < 1371624380 954615 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371624860 554823 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I remember reading that thing. From agrep something, right? < 1371624877 481946 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1371625695 59375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good mmap bug < 1371625705 123610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1371625736 976911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'more of a ptrace bug imo' < 1371625806 395247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :'well yes' < 1371625817 305580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :'but mmap is shorter than ptrace and communicated what i meant just as well' < 1371625824 291398 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371625827 807247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :'which was "a bug involving mmap", not "a bug in mmap"' < 1371625828 115272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if the freebsd ptrace interface is saner than the linux one < 1371625833 289599 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc os x's is even worse < 1371625834 623173 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :these savings are now wasted on this metadiscussion < 1371625866 200668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In OS X ptrace can't do half the things you want it to, right? < 1371625871 413367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's some Mach-specific API. < 1371625871 790666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone was telling me how OS X doesn't (or didn't) provide a way to ptrace the child after a fork < 1371625874 725370 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1371625988 768462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :would unboxed sum types improve ghc < 1371626027 198129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1371626031 341373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would unboxed lazy vectors improve ghc < 1371626042 547158 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do unboxed lazy? < 1371626097 960480 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1371626819 433810 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1371626894 879346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine a function that e.g. returns a Maybe not actually allocating anything < 1371626922 152092 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a wonderful world such would be < 1371626959 492330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best of all possible worlds < 1371626967 341032 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1371626997 952513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :eq :: (Typeable a, Typeable b) => Maybe (Is a b) < 1371627002 516257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I push for that in base? < 1371627064 897906 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know a basic sparse array representation I can learn quicklike? < 1371627080 468995 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it "basically a hash table" < 1371627124 148285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an array of (index, value) tuples. < 1371627156 697601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :radix tree hth < 1371627196 15479 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1371627302 637903 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, using what for branching? ranges? < 1371627336 978788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Branching? < 1371627347 452092 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the tree. < 1371627360 61133 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, i was thinkin the keys would be integers, not strings, so. < 1371627369 280080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :integers = strings of bits hth < 1371627383 535003 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's ranges < 1371627385 11920 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that hs < 1371627806 571057 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me < 1371627826 187596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, dude, free -h < 1371627877 313660 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :youre welcome < 1371627937 800031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: my idea for unboxed lazy arrays is that each cell is either a pointer to a thunk or an unboxed value < 1371627944 668145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they are sized to the larger of the two < 1371627949 658286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have a bitmap or something to tell you which is which < 1371627959 222481 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: could you implement that reasonably without changing ghc itself < 1371627974 83869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main problem would be the gc i guess? < 1371627977 146437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the unboxed value is smaller than a pointer then you can avoid taking up extra space for that bitmap < 1371628008 503527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: for your sparse array how about a trie < 1371628090 800089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :radix tree = trie with an optimization for long prefixes < 1371628113 558926 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i'm doing a radix tree 'cos of that. < 1371628115 649654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :IntMap is an example < 1371628128 278671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1371628161 93579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen Data.Map's code it's too scary :'( < 1371628167 319461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't code like this be simple or something :'( < 1371629043 848715 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a good way to get the position of the least significant bit not shared by two integers, i'm blanking < 1371629058 571357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :read Hacker's Delight, hth < 1371629068 567234 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right zero count of the xor i guess? < 1371629070 912668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xor them and then yep < 1371629099 653828 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one am is not the time to be reading hacker's delight, i think < 1371629112 234237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc Built-in Function: int __builtin_ffs (unsigned int x): Returns one plus the index of the least significant 1-bit of x, or if x is zero, returns zero. < 1371629124 808431 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffs indeed < 1371629179 255415 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, isn't that the same as builtin_ctz < 1371629188 86226 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh except for the defined zero < 1371629193 173417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah < 1371629202 493011 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and uh plus one probably < 1371629203 893289 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i'm tired < 1371629228 541880 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_trailing_zeros how convenient < 1371629230 570187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4 < 1371629260 551116 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `oeis' failed with: <> < 1371629272 395095 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, this is in posix? i had no idea < 1371629303 310295 :surma!uid6361@c-base/crew/surma JOIN :#esoteric < 1371629311 585157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me either < 1371629313 136326 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok posix has ctz but not clz < 1371629314 96036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cool < 1371629315 50987 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1371629381 553369 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackfin reading this stuff takes you to weird places < 1371629393 2299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?37827-Greetings-from-GE-Canada < 1371629394 237169 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this has hamming weight as an instruction, apparently) < 1371629402 989803 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ONES < 1371629421 144857 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well i'm terrified. < 1371629433 109806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/19/nuke_plants_to_keep_pdp11_until_2050/ < 1371629463 819568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: me too, but I'm also glad they don't rewrite it every 2 yeras < 1371629471 484386 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted < 1371629477 172035 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like a weird thing to commit to, though < 1371629834 610599 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.106.121 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1371630181 855673 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist just now < 1371630186 645227 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist just now: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1371630400 900873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :our nuclear power plants are 100% agile, we use node.js and scrum methodology < 1371630466 312906 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc no ;_; < 1371630659 693103 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1371630726 818702 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1371630907 806524 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: gotta go < 1371632767 883530 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1371633116 353913 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I think I'm building GHC as a stress relief < 1371633154 202552 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No! I must stop! < 1371633166 551960 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION breathes < 1371633519 941868 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371633569 320884 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1371633581 363206 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371633629 139433 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1371633694 427489 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how does building GHC relieve stress? < 1371633715 508301 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I realised it doesn't, so I stopped < 1371633726 645407 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, makes sense < 1371635845 962559 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.126.193.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371636239 294664 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.126.193.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/aardappel < 1371636262 569961 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.126.193.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://catseye.tc/node/The%20Aesthetics%20of%20Esolangs.html < 1371636362 374430 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.126.193.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i haven't heard anything more from jsvine so i'll assume he didn't get anything publishable out of the interview. but i'll ask him if he's willing to contribute his befunge program to the examples archive. < 1371636486 937019 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.126.193.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 hey, i see your Please Porige Hot page is 403 forbidden. it would make me really happy if it was not forbidden! < 1371636487 209217 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1371636664 936173 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.126.193.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan well then *i* flubbed. < 1371636665 286475 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1371636728 642577 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.126.193.20 QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1371636990 56731 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371636993 325425 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric > 1371636994 208370 JOIN :#esoteric > 1371636994 725670 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371637050 578915 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1371637086 342015 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1371637095 166046 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1371639456 862509 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1371639547 175970 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1371639579 804258 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1371639586 590281 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1371639638 96292 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks it is cool that he is running Xubuntu 13.04 (installed from a 12.10 stick and immediately upgraded) on an 8gb class-6 sdhc card. < 1371639747 544250 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, could someone point me to a page with the brainf*ck language info? < 1371639747 853083 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that happens < 1371639752 715568 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh uh < 1371639758 748147 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :info? < 1371639779 934748 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, commands < 1371639788 507612 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck < 1371639944 159063 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1371640371 546005 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thought bf would make little sense. instead, he found that unlambda makes it look normal. < 1371640450 700347 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both pretty normal.. what makes little sense is the hype around bf < 1371640495 842978 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the name < 1371640565 459504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: unlambda isn't very normal < 1371640573 405640 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen the details of d and c < 1371640587 920899 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :d is very not normal < 1371640589 108632 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget what d is like but i know c < 1371640639 687050 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess c isnt "normal".. < 1371640647 179489 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.madore.org/~david/programs/unlambda/#delay < 1371640693 358378 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1371640704 563318 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dang evaluation order tricks < 1371640754 931679 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you Taneb < 1371640937 14749 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1371641295 317379 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No problem, Sgeo < 1371641662 553297 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and F evaluates to d (for example when F is d)" < 1371641663 11493 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute < 1371641701 38922 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371641728 385536 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1371641792 316575 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT WHEN F IS NOT d! < 1371641801 582969 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :F shall NEVER evaluate to d! < 1371641803 477579 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahaha! < 1371641809 216905 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1371641813 192818 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to taneb < 1371641843 174010 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I'm a bit stressed with exams < 1371641853 877691 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1371641880 234383 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which exams < 1371641926 178049 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371642204 593060 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoah < 1371642215 538544 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :system shock 2 comes with a manual < 1371642271 858052 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A-levels < 1371642275 547479 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got two exams left < 1371642282 893847 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which exams < 1371642568 341918 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :A-levels, he already said that < 1371642581 81817 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which two a-levels! < 1371643063 347183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1371643096 496807 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the last two < 1371643105 815118 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1371643122 480398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, three! < 1371643134 186797 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get a-levels in dance < 1371643139 299609 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll say no more < 1371643501 817330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PART :#esoteric < 1371643514 448253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1371643527 522087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong window :( < 1371643625 727762 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1371643683 111969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : F shall NEVER evaluate to d! <-- SORRY INCORRECT HTH < 1371643848 622082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/19/nuke_plants_to_keep_pdp11_until_2050/ <-- for a fraction of a second i read that as php, fortunately i realized before completely panicking < 1371644030 784057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's enough logs for today < 1371644643 34064 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371644750 271362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: um right, hi < 1371644765 221033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1371644769 724408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1371644825 292820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371644999 833819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if ais523 doesn't replace the featured langauge soon I will have no choice but to admin oerjan and tell him to do it. < 1371645009 799180 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admin me < 1371645022 259470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but I'm concentrating on other things < 1371645058 387258 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: tell that to oerjan!! < 1371645092 423081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have a back ache :( < 1371645117 876161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably shouldn't be on the computer at all < 1371645490 959681 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make an esolang based on back ache, hth < 1371645677 910238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dialect of lifescript, i take < 1371645683 466094 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1371646484 772736 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1371646667 359470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do _you_ understand today's lightning made of owls? :/ < 1371646704 462233 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I do not < 1371646733 956829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1371647015 237724 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's the hexham weather < 1371647024 924513 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warnm < 1371647103 120348 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its very warnm in hexham right now yes < 1371647112 425312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like the temperature of doom < 1371647482 529625 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1371647485 173020 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1371647609 940140 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :notice how Warnm backwards is mnraW < 1371647620 480342 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is like MN raw < 1371647627 243216 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is MN? Nobody knows < 1371647628 423972 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as raw as minnesota < 1371647644 277023 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is MN? elliott knows < 1371647665 831566 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1371647703 944613 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott < 1371647707 181354 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :buy system shock 2 < 1371647711 168586 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not playing it alone < 1371647760 60576 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iaaven't even played system shock 1 < 1371647762 71472 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except maybe i did once < 1371647775 153280 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it was 2 < 1371647778 259624 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to play system shock 1 < 1371647789 366019 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aiui it has aged awfully < 1371647814 285216 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like you < 1371647833 905452 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like your mum < 1371648420 268198 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1371648556 463135 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Client Quit < 1371648955 745288 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_nonsense cute < 1371649061 725023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION chases nooodl through a diagram with the swatter -----### < 1371649072 697395 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the daily commute? < 1371649091 196903 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott :') < 1371649094 261306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats elliott -----### < 1371650610 168427 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371650763 396583 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1371650819 231881 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371651173 401795 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371651884 8525 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1371652037 818340 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1371652572 507787 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1371652598 383378 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371652754 272502 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371652987 397689 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1371653280 550249 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1371653307 994279 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371653528 36958 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371653543 944330 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1371654409 356340 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371654843 21549 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1371655245 282548 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1371656350 604140 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1371656418 367718 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371656474 13895 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1371656678 51721 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1371656970 438459 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371657026 316115 :tertu!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371657163 365336 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1371657195 254922 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371657234 313465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1371657242 790698 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1371657390 919259 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently all the results in the DLP paper rely on heuristics < 1371657433 319191 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"People talk as they ride bicycles - at a rush - without pausing to consider their surroundings." < 1371657765 908633 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://spectrum.ieee.org/consumer-electronics/portable-devices/echolocation-by-smartphone-possible wow < 1371658300 994745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1371658340 533141 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1371658348 999390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what's DLP? < 1371658377 414245 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :discrete logarithm problem < 1371658387 143043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1371658413 638242 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the paper shachaf and kmc were talking about is heuristastic. < 1371658444 855443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i've forgot to check the box to reconnect the wireless automatically, i hope this will improve things < 1371658465 505120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not doing it, that is) < 1371658492 290133 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not forgetting, or not checking the box? < 1371658575 230583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1371658610 535986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION buries olsner under an avalanche of iterated negations < 1371658635 447574 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooooooo < 1371659166 624680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly! < 1371659193 928536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now pizza < 1371659211 275536 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-43-227.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371659350 257353 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1371659352 45645 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-43-227.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1371661121 287350 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-43-227.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1371661238 652409 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-148.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371661273 782140 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371662852 327079 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1371663466 216393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1371663594 479370 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1371663690 330335 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1371664004 329685 :guestbot!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371664071 399904 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371664542 798806 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371664703 198693 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1371664808 535556 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-198-148.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1371664808 796476 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1371664809 23542 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1371664823 129827 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1371664956 688728 :oscarrio!~oscarrio@190.206.239.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371664962 656337 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1371665300 371888 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1371665740 649304 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1371665955 358267 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1371667369 618803 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1371667694 304849 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1371668046 181089 :oscarrio!~oscarrio@190.206.239.140 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1371668125 793275 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1371668268 497564 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi guys :) < 1371668289 962874 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1371668294 768595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome hiato < 1371668297 343702 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1371668318 822388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why you gotta use the only boring welcome < 1371668320 331688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome hiato < 1371668323 282392 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​03h13iato: Wel05co09me 09to the int10ernati13on10al 09hub f02or es10oteri11c prog14rammin07g language 12design an03d deployment! 02For mor06e inf11ormation,03 check out our wi08ki07: http06:/13/esolan05gs.org03/wiki10/Main_Page. (For 13the other ki05nd of es11ote10ric10a, try 08#es13oteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1371668333 254731 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, hey elliott < 1371668363 22634 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, so I haven't been here for a very, very long time. < 1371668372 776903 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was making me sad, really. < 1371668379 494578 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember you!! < 1371668384 415144 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks u gaiz are the best < 1371668388 861996 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato's hiatus < 1371668391 369567 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ;) < 1371668403 999072 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: :P < 1371668423 133313 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, I was here when I was a young one, which would have made elliott a toddler practically < 1371668431 756973 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's all relative I suppose < 1371668434 377624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :re-welcome hiato! < 1371668446 930067 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember hiato < 1371668456 854107 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i am an old man < 1371668459 545921 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Heh, why thank you :) I still remember that time you helped me with my silly maths homework < 1371668476 212197 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh, but I remember you < 1371668501 155918 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember < 1371668521 370298 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I'm not *that* memorable. < 1371668547 251426 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ok, not everyone has to be memorable < 1371668552 983511 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb ais523 < 1371668559 250511 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember you because you used fucking delphi or whatever < 1371668563 484758 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I was here mostly around 2007/8 or so < 1371668564 677088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like some kind of alien < 1371668575 18285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i remember you for other reasons too < 1371668578 166955 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's like #1 or #2 < 1371668581 360056 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: haha, yeah, that was all I knew at that stage. < 1371668583 647952 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hiato < 1371668584 626223 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"also used snobol" < 1371668585 506650 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1371668585 848261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember hiato for the electricity rationing < 1371668595 604697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope that's got better, at least < 1371668606 279962 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember that too < 1371668631 887534 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, wow, I don't even remember telling you about it. Well, nope, not really. At least, it's winter now and there hasn't been one for some time, but I suppose it was at it's worst back then < 1371668632 150500 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's hiato from? < 1371668635 956530 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.za? < 1371668637 611297 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: South Africa < 1371668641 180713 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhh < 1371668691 890970 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it would be rather silly of me to ask, but I'll try anyway: what's been happening? < 1371668707 784188 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a lot, sadly, esolang development's been kind-of slow < 1371668713 844222 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the channel got interviewed by a WSJ reporter for some reason < 1371668717 454989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that was fun < 1371668717 875368 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etbcKWEKnvg wow good < 1371668720 331004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took over the world and a guy from the wall street journal interviewed cpressey over irc and made hexham jokes < 1371668722 741038 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :I checked back on the wiki recently and it's exploded in size since I remember it < 1371668724 178136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also we grouped together to make Radixal!!!! < 1371668728 201987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and additionally someone else came here from hexham, completely randomly < 1371668732 972664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what, seriously? < 1371668741 471284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what the fuck < 1371668742 498558 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many times < 1371668743 582486 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, that's pretty awesome! Gar, I missed a channel interview < 1371668746 455690 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you forgotten that taneb is from hexham < 1371668753 100618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even funny any more < 1371668753 327796 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, I thought you meant someone beyond taneb < 1371668755 30969 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1371668757 592419 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i meant taneb < 1371668773 289133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe hiato wasn't there for the "hexham craze" < 1371668777 109124 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :were "hexham jokes" even a thing before taneb turned out to also be yeah < 1371668787 873685 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hexham craze? < 1371668790 902468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well when I first knew elliott he didn't even live in hexham < 1371668791 128988 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs Hexham < 1371668797 222883 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :internet-knew < 1371668799 245001 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I thought we already had a third hexham < 1371668802 842452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so obviously there couldn't be hexham jokes then < 1371668804 383744 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.5982 < 1371668808 134556 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure who, but someone < 1371668813 124265 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "hexham" what you call a person from hexham. < 1371668814 766446 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so haha, I though you were excited about radixal. It turns out the !!! is part of the name. < 1371668815 64933 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's p. good < 1371668815 829910 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when was The Hexham Epiphany again < 1371668824 10531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: four exclamation marks < 1371668831 329094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we chose that because we thought three was the highest justifiable value < 1371668837 415757 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops, wouldn't want to understate it < 1371668838 24429 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that radix < 1371668855 800705 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: er < 1371668857 481754 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, 2011-07-16 < 1371668860 517732 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you first knew me in 2007 right < 1371668862 672034 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was in hexham then < 1371668866 553043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not sure < 1371668871 373376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was in hexham in 2004 < 1371668880 242408 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah, you were going to move iirc < 1371668883 655889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember you living in a hamlet near hexham with a name nobody could remember < 1371668884 521047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: I live in hexham which is a pretty small rural down (pop. like 11k) < 1371668893 560572 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2011-07-16#160048PhantomHoover < 1371668900 821151 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore elliott, this is a much funnier way to find out < 1371668904 749978 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham lite < 1371668920 491356 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :context for Phantom_Hoover's link: he previously mentioned living in northumberland < 1371668923 520948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hexham is in northumberland) < 1371668930 595278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then oerjan joked that taneb would turn out to be my next-door neighbour. < 1371668937 12277 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: northumberland is a lot bigger than hexham) < 1371668953 706110 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :why was taneb's line a clue for ph to jump to that conclusion though < 1371668971 287085 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"he's this kid who refused to meet me a few weeks ago" the plot thickens < 1371668977 169254 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it just the "my town" < 1371668979 191893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: because elliott "famously" came from hexham < 1371668985 180739 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, because he made it clear he lived in a tiny shithole of a town < 1371668990 315040 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in northumberland < 1371668993 154954 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, ok, reading now < 1371668994 439952 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm yeah < 1371668995 699488 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: divine inspiration < 1371668995 930283 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham fits all these criteria < 1371669010 74554 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham is awesome though < 1371669013 99013 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've got a field < 1371669016 566111 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure jesus just came down from the heavens and pushed the knowledge into Phantom_Hoover's head < 1371669020 90415 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fucking love fields < 1371669022 266259 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an abbey! < 1371669026 378212 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget your abbety < 1371669028 352151 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*abbey < 1371669036 453269 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey that reminds me of A Thing < 1371669053 518585 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the school i'm enrolled in it super hilly, to the extent that there's a place called Johnson Flats, which is not flat and is on a hill < 1371669064 175492 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :positively british naming sense, i must say < 1371669075 809204 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:09:37: -!- monqy has joined #esoteric. < 1371669078 862700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Birmingham has lots and lots of little hills < 1371669079 600109 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :this log is gonna get good < 1371669084 303576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the extent that horizontal flat land is rare < 1371669098 395964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there are few hills that impress people who come from, say, Sheffield < 1371669119 462217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite example: there's a car park that you can enter at ground level, go up 8 floors, and come out at ground level < 1371669128 842367 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet < 1371669130 577786 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :edinburgh has a bunch of hills < 1371669154 772125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: no it gets bad shortly afterwards < 1371669156 110205 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a wp article on "the seven hills of edinburgh" which lists a bunch of sets of seven hills people call "the seven hills of edinburgh" < 1371669157 489337 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's great < 1371669158 262573 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because cheater starts talking < 1371669163 13660 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"16:18:15: that proves nothing, you could've edited every school's wp page at that time." < 1371669163 989896 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot my user page redirects to High Middle Ages < 1371669164 214454 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, ok, so that is hilarious! :D Why would oklopol give Phantom_Hoover such a hard time about this? < 1371669167 224386 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol... < 1371669178 781406 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, I can't remember it ever having redirected there < 1371669185 548897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't it taneb who was given a hard time... < 1371669185 982299 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would I do that < 1371669197 119399 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, by oklopol ? < 1371669210 337099 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but you said Phantom_Hoover!! < 1371669217 901227 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: whoops, yes, Taneb < 1371669229 374564 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric : My next door neighbours are Mr Snowdon and the Bradshaws! < 1371669238 673671 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They still are < 1371669259 895927 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, oko was explaining path-connectedness to me? < 1371669273 845682 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1371669283 230690 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan made the neighbour prediction before taneb said he lived in northumberland < 1371669312 92572 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think tswett is the one I keep expecting to live in hexham but never does < 1371669326 777288 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he lives in australia you idiot < 1371669331 276011 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't tswett live in Finland/Australia/Antarctica < 1371669332 830766 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric : I cannot think of a way to prove that I am in Hexham -- this conversation is incredible < 1371669385 736547 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: wow, you really wanted to prove this < 1371669406 777771 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also like how the discussion of topological connectedness is interposed with iti saying some shit about vectors < 1371669436 267402 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found list of spells of D&D game including "Explosive Familiar" it makes the caster's familiar explosive, and "Feign Invisibility" which causes others to believe the caster is invisible even though they can clearly see the caster, they must think they can see him somehow even if he is invisible. < 1371669446 513916 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you zzo38 < 1371669457 218513 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just saw that and thought it was funny. < 1371669464 877174 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it makes them think they can see through invisibility spells < 1371669465 671434 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1371669472 580195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's a literal quote from zzo38 < 1371669474 301752 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be useful < 1371669485 617675 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric : who's itidus20 btw < 1371669487 928152 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god this was < 1371669492 55094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itidus20 < 1371669494 298575 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20's entry has been censored. < 1371669495 390464 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same day?? < 1371669499 244127 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:09:09: I will stand next to the abbey in site of the Hexham Courant Webcam for a while with a sign saying "I AM TANEB" < 1371669500 775228 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itidus21 < 1371669501 910338 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itidus22 < 1371669502 639318 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21 just made some instant coffee. < 1371669502 864874 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:09:12: But not today < 1371669503 160163 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you still have to do this < 1371669503 818188 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1371669512 546256 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itidus19 < 1371669514 806142 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus19 disappeared into a space-time anomaly < 1371669524 42082 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I know < 1371669526 542169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"some day, maybe next Friday" < 1371669538 482703 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, are you up to speed on the channel in-jokes yet < 1371669543 696886 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he'll show up at your house with a sign that says "I AM TANEB AND I LUV U" < 1371669548 45659 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm getting there :P < 1371669557 269237 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i luv u 2, Taneb < 1371669557 783017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION keeps quiet < 1371669572 116104 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of channel in-jokes < 1371669573 7145 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: op me < 1371669576 630247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, now I'm going to have to ask zzo38 what overmate is < 1371669579 109997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I did < 1371669591 994650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the other kind of op me < 1371669637 462461 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :which kind of op me is that? < 1371669646 380726 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one where you do it via /msg chanserv access! < 1371669653 769449 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:07:05: I got famous last year for wearing a dressing gown and joining a political organization < 1371669663 760697 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :this log is so good < 1371669664 151951 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, that is a true story < 1371669675 690784 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it is no longer last year < 1371669679 314389 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is like ages ago < 1371669680 346228 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :famous enough for elliott to see it and provide independent confirmation of it? < 1371669683 718823 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you are an endless source of amazing quotes < 1371669692 137485 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1371669715 871168 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you Taneb < 1371669722 413071 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my claim to fame is wounding a man with a spoon < 1371669742 16429 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did? < 1371669749 386198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: I have to be careful when reading the entire quotes database < 1371669755 299653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I can't breathe I laugh so much < 1371669756 822271 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1371669759 492276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes Taneb < 1371669765 370420 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.17667 < 1371669765 891595 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that for anyone in here :) < 1371669780 880471 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes hiato < 1371669786 629818 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.27697 < 1371669799 744175 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think that functionality was implemented sometime after me < 1371669802 643808 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait < 1371669814 453711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, there aren't any hiato quotes in the list < 1371669815 832752 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's blank < 1371669817 404961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because nobody's added any < 1371669834 637296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, Taneb used to be called Ngevd < 1371669854 312666 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I don't recall this being a feature. In any event, I will continue to read Taneb quotes and that log because you sir, are amazing < 1371669865 569570 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not that great < 1371669865 795227 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember Ngevd, yeah, I think. < 1371669880 275146 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep forgetting when i joined #esoteric < 1371669880 578735 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1371669882 805963 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm looking it up) < 1371669889 639815 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :6TxB%JE"d*@_&k@KC\< < 1371669893 691128 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: as ais523 described, I had to literally stop reading to allow for breathing < 1371669895 160063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen hiato < 1371669896 579283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1371669897 821995 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wont work < 1371669899 200542 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-06-19 19:24:53: Taneb: as ais523 described, I had to literally stop reading to allow for breathing < 1371669900 816450 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fr pastseen < 1371669933 388740 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow cool < 1371669935 899093 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-10-21.txt:02:40:28: nooodl: 1, 1, …? Everyone knows the Fibonacci sequence begins with 89, -55. < 1371669936 125576 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-10-31.txt:00:36:49: -!- nooodl has joined #esoteric. < 1371669951 439930 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes Ngevd < 1371669957 259046 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.30517 < 1371669993 151468 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We haven't told hiato about Facekicker < 1371670017 240203 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :please, I don't know that I can handle more hilarious logs this evening < 1371670023 96032 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371670039 217137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time hiato < 1371670040 325095 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for hiato is Wed Jun 19 21:22:20 2013 < 1371670049 559410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is south africa really utc+1 < 1371670050 905036 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :weiiiird < 1371670054 155138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or uh maybe it's bst < 1371670056 321031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that would be utc+2 < 1371670066 578603 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah, GMT+2 < 1371670080 957001 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't you be on winter time/standard time/non-summer time now though? < 1371670082 670905 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, should we tell hiato about Facekicker < 1371670100 83863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that is up to you < 1371670111 265944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's june! < 1371670112 446029 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: in this country, the government saves energy by randomly shutting off power to suburbs. No need for pesky daylight savings. < 1371670114 690734 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't tell it in a funny way! < 1371670120 742417 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: aah, clever < 1371670131 798549 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds more reliably energy saving too < 1371670147 287299 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: 100% energy saved on grids, gauranteed! < 1371670158 409575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :south africa sounds like a weird place < 1371670168 293730 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, basically, for a few hours I thought elliott kicked one of my friends in the face but it turned out to be a different Elliott Hird < 1371670172 344784 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you should see what it /looks/ like then < 1371670181 451178 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: lolwut < 1371670182 480201 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they say daylight savings time saves like 1% of power, but I think that was before they invented air conditioning < 1371670203 855221 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: How many Elliotts are there in Hexham? < 1371670208 834625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i see how it is < 1371670212 814174 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, I can think of three < 1371670218 558306 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: haha, wow < 1371670231 872780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why would it be summertime in winter? < 1371670232 336351 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody knows what happened to Facekicker for the past 8 years, though < 1371670255 762223 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, Hexham's got almost 12000 people. That's like 0.025% < 1371670257 359015 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: also, what on earth leads someone to kick someone else in the face? Was the guy kicking really flexible, or suffering giantism? < 1371670260 911551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, "it turned out to be a different Elliott Hird" is almost as weird as the multiple-hexhamites thing < 1371670266 43526 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, he was standing on a table < 1371670275 528917 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ah, makes more sense now < 1371670279 823344 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never even hird of the surname "hird" before this channel < 1371670283 530279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm still dubious < 1371670289 204316 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seriously doubt there are other elliott hirds < 1371670293 918751 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably it was actually me < 1371670294 572044 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is home to the most ridiculous Hexham-centred stories I have ever heard < 1371670297 626802 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hird < 1371670300 946791 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my friends went to first school with someone called Elliott Hird < 1371670327 259337 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a small village close to Hexham but closer to Prudhoe < 1371670333 476417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: well hexham-centered stories aren't very common < 1371670339 56679 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, wait, I completely missed the "different" < 1371670340 194487 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think every man in hexham that none of us has met yet is called elliott hird < 1371670344 894863 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, ok, now this story is ridiculous < 1371670353 982341 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise elliott 's surname was also Hird < 1371670388 607119 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even like it's that common a name < 1371670392 867961 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you suuuure you never kicked anyone in the face < 1371670408 596732 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you google elliott hird it's a mix of elliott and a kitchen planner < 1371670409 736734 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: i probably have < 1371670411 640282 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :P.S. maybe you're related and it's just another elliott in the Hird family < 1371670418 992747 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and there I was thinking facekicker would be some sort of in joke about a facebook derivative or some such) < 1371670422 714283 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, idk, kicking people in the face is q. hard < 1371670430 425570 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i got kicked in the face once < 1371670445 903988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the victim is lying down? < 1371670450 858453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1371670453 488979 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i don't remember < 1371670457 149568 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you deserved it for kicking someone in the face though < 1371670457 612132 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1371670458 226941 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Facekicker was standing on a table < 1371670458 450987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's why one of my teeth is chipped at least < 1371670467 983549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1371670473 175877 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one was from walking into the glass < 1371670474 256000 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the story is the wrong way around and Taneb's friend kicked elliott < 1371670483 290603 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Facekicker <---> Kingslayer. Any connection in naming scheme? < 1371670492 900958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i mixed up getting a hole in my head with chipping my tooth i think < 1371670493 509073 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1371670502 90414 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that they both consist of a thing and then what they did to that thing < 1371670512 915034 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: why thank you < 1371670588 120242 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yikes are you even still alive < 1371670616 491687 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you get a hole in your head < 1371670623 755181 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure you can't get that from kicking < 1371670633 286130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: no < 1371670641 615228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i fell on some toy thing when i was young < 1371670647 427260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i say hole i mean < 1371670648 20656 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, trepanation < 1371670652 155946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was incredibly tiny < 1371670655 733349 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a number of holes in my head. < 1371670657 551239 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i know is they put some kind of glue thing on it < 1371670657 777043 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was this toy a big metal spike < 1371670660 681157 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it repaired itself < 1371670661 193973 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so radixal!!!! looks kinda cool, nice job < 1371670670 290980 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me of a good childhood story when i was like 11 < 1371670675 636688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: thanks < 1371670679 781711 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I had something similar, but it was a bridge < 1371670680 420668 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i was really pissed about something, i don't remember what it was < 1371670688 25287 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i decided to solve my anger issues by kicking something < 1371670697 947427 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the closest thing was a stone wall < 1371670702 291476 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once pushed my sister into a drawer or something by accident < 1371670713 214644 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then my mum had to staple her head back together < 1371670726 53353 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i may be making myself sound like a psychopath here < 1371670730 617858 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes :( < 1371670739 529675 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too though < 1371670764 188724 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, for at least two generations in my family, the elder brother has pushed the second brother off a bed, causing a permanent scar < 1371670770 383484 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: but at least you're not the one who stapled your sister's head? < 1371670773 821388 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it's more embarrassing/haunting than it sounds; why did i kick a fucking wall? what was wrong with me < 1371670783 812413 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well she used a medical stapler < 1371670824 914111 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"medical staplers" look very badass thanks google < 1371670828 64199 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you injure someone with an object, you can always say “well, it was a medical $foo” < 1371670839 297233 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that song that goes "Doo, dee, do-doo; Doo, dee, do-da"? < 1371670857 673036 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb: Meshuggah – Bleed < 1371670866 552613 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1371670932 803466 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Medical stapler http://youtu.be/baNBRs_Wafs < 1371670940 845036 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :while drunk < 1371670978 69884 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Haiers Medical-Circular Stapler For Rectal Prolapse And Hemorrhoids.wmv” /me refrains from clicking < 1371671007 314661 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :good choice < 1371671061 22896 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, i’m pretty happy about it. < 1371671434 825949 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1371672637 538461 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :trrndn trrndn trrndn trrndn trrndn trrndn trrndn trrndn trrndn trrndn trrndn < 1371672735 731692 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I do live in F/A/A, yes. < 1371672746 596011 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally called it < 1371672816 881021 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : Once I start a business I might release some information on internet, such as telephone < 1371672824 800121 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this business up and running? < 1371672830 324157 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he's not here. < 1371672898 979377 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@cust-208-22.on5.ontelecoms.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1371672947 276171 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Tritonio < 1371672949 446763 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tritonio: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1371672975 761939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to know about zzo38's business as well < 1371672987 61615 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzology < 1371673034 33377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: given that it's zzo38, that line does not imply that he's planning to start a business < 1371673039 870878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that, if he did, that's what he might do afterwars < 1371673042 738040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*afterwards < 1371673048 569981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1371673316 920199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes kmc < 1371673322 757168 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.8517 < 1371673335 502095 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cocks < 1371673371 765244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :always with the cocks < 1371673394 286498 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, kmc was well quoted < 1371673413 64752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you couldn't have those in (sub)urban areas < 1371673484 456094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregoooooooor < 1371673487 706850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix your encoding header < 1371673519 88409 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pokémon theme < 1371673542 96954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well IRC doesn't have a sane encoding < 1371673551 524031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but this channel uses UTF-8 by convention < 1371673556 188036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the default is "UTF-8 if the line happens to be UTF-8, otherwise Latin-1" < 1371673569 209047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a bad default < 1371673583 825468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :utf-8 is the good default < 1371673587 901635 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: was that UTF-8 or Latin-1? < 1371673592 673480 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :op campaign: I would kick anyone who didn't use utf-8 except oklopol < 1371673601 275241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no code but unicode and utf-8 is its transport < 1371673601 498619 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8 is good < 1371673607 158771 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :㑖 < 1371673615 323861 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still don't know what i use < 1371673622 494142 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :♫ domain name system ♫ < 1371673631 552978 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :♫ < 1371673632 633013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo é | iconv -t iso8859-1 < 1371673634 257928 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1371673644 803378 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ok good I'm in utf-8 < 1371673647 237079 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i changed my irc client because i just couldn't get mirc to work, but i doubt i'm using utf8 now either < 1371673649 629318 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :� < 1371673653 587583 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I saw < 1371673657 45499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unterbrechung während des Betriebssystemaufrufs < 1371673657 269257 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A question thing < 1371673657 489821 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :to work = to use utf8 < 1371673670 855853 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tmux doesn't do iso8859-1 < 1371673680 685697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so far you are, but only the lowest 128 codepoints hth < 1371673683 989352 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wait isn't kmc the guy who runs that one pizza shop and night club and used to be a programmer" < 1371673693 400589 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :joo jöö < 1371673700 296831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Betriebssystemaufrufs" is kind of an awesome word for "syscall" < 1371673708 289201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i bet actual german haxors just say "die Syscall" < 1371673715 487993 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :German has wonderful words < 1371673748 126279 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rindfleischetikettierungsuberwachungsaufgabenubertragungsgesetz! < 1371673812 434095 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gesundheit < 1371673887 405348 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : " on a related idea. i had this idea of a game of life sort of thing which makes connected clusters of dots have a mass and hence a gravity and to affect each other" <<< can i steal this idea and try to do something cool with it next week? < 1371673894 393739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beef something < 1371673900 742480 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's where that idea came from < 1371673905 21799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Donaudampfschifffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft < 1371673916 439475 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes bike < 1371673920 736421 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we almost wrote an article on that :P < 1371673922 708406 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.28416 < 1371673922 929313 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanna see if the encoding fixed on this somehow. < 1371673929 122129 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nnnnnope < 1371673964 373943 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does ^B make it download < 1371673985 390324 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we made a CA where there's a special state * such that if there are finitely many * then they group together) < 1371674006 45759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hmm, interesting < 1371674008 737681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not really a CA any more < 1371674013 722267 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely some sort of automaton, though < 1371674029 109307 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my definition of a CA is that it's shift-commuting and continuous < 1371674043 338996 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a property that a CA may or may not have < 1371674046 225311 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a new definition < 1371674078 579840 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we found a CA with such a property, a CA such that one of the states has this curious property < 1371674084 993573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes Bike < 1371674089 399689 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it simple? < 1371674090 168766 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.5095 < 1371674094 727016 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the rule? < 1371674099 840521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was the multiocular O of countries? < 1371674101 485045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oh, right < 1371674104 227621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, liechtenstein < 1371674107 691747 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very simple if the configuration is 0-finite < 1371674110 402948 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason I thought you had a CA where if you had consecutive * on the tape < 1371674116 845413 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(has a finite amount of non-0 cells) < 1371674118 330068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them just vanished, shrinking the tape to match < 1371674155 593159 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have states 0, 1 and *, and 1's spread left and down, forming a quarterplane full of 1s, and the *s move northeast on it < 1371674161 285542 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za QUIT :Quit: too cold to function < 1371674166 513611 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :they reach the northeast corner and then they are grouped < 1371674181 563812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, 2-D CA? < 1371674187 458658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume 1D unless someone states otherwise < 1371674194 60195 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this can be cheated to not work if there's an infinite amount of 1 < 1371674195 879778 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sorry < 1371674207 999295 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's strictly easier in 1d < 1371674213 524123 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i assume the opposite < 1371674214 606265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that works much the same in any number of dimensions < 1371674221 584143 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I even made a 1D Sokoban < 1371674236 374201 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of our stuff is in 1d, but this one was kind of boring in 1d < 1371674239 297974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically because the Enigma advertised them as an April Fool's joke, so I thought I'd make one < 1371674240 507282 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sounds really easy < 1371674245 586117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well it had a bunch of teleporters < 1371674257 512578 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if it's very interesting in 2d either, and i don't think we'll even try to publish it < 1371674257 735458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that opened and closed on a timer so you could choose not to use them if you wanted to < 1371674282 803376 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1371674289 604920 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes it interesting < 1371674320 962344 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1371674362 742218 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what happens to the * that are northeast of all 1s? < 1371674377 318353 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh 1s start spreading from them < 1371674381 438040 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would a CA look like that was on Sierpinski carpet < 1371674385 546501 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that even work < 1371674393 658407 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/carpet/triangle/ < 1371674408 291877 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1371674431 640578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: those are some of the most common patterns for random CAs to generate, beyond the boring ones < 1371674445 113164 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I mean on one < 1371674446 1978 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get sierpinski in life easily < 1371674451 397699 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of on a plane or line < 1371674517 331419 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" there's a local rule that tells you what changes are legal. now, to every sequence s in {"E", "U"}^N partitions S^Z we get a subset of points from which the game goes on forever, say for EUEUEUEU... this means from x, for some choice of new cell values by E, for any choice of any cell by U, for some choice of..." < 1371674517 959446 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1371674526 204415 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like our newest article < 1371674572 124544 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this an actual log for one day of ircing or is this a collection of stuff that SHAPED MY LIFE < 1371674614 495214 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually turned out that the sequence where the game goes on forever is itself a sofic shift if you start with one < 1371674617 972832 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote is this an actual log for one day of ircing or is this a collection of stuff that SHAPED MY LIFE < 1371674622 107160 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1055) is this an actual log for one day of ircing or is this a collection of stuff that SHAPED MY LIFE < 1371674625 57442 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is cool < 1371674630 734148 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you care about sofic shifts < 1371674645 929435 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great to find out that oklopol is sad enough that his entire life is contained in statements about cellular automata from one single day!!!! < 1371674653 815763 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day you'll run out of stuff from that log < 1371674656 651344 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you'll have no ideas ever again < 1371674667 434852 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i also started smoking that day < 1371674804 703372 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you still smoke? I hear that stuff's bad for you < 1371674841 242734 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes < 1371674842 222679 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you smoke < 1371674851 18247 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you know tobacco < 1371675037 547052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes oklopol < 1371675043 261984 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.10951 < 1371675067 389857 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol suddenly i start proving theorems of basic topology < 1371675085 736285 :guestbot!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1371675129 778577 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : clue is a language for beauty, not usefulness or ability to run at all ability to run at all is not even close to a design goal, no < 1371675134 337514 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should make a better clue < 1371675135 882711 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm clue < 1371675246 680346 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : (for instance all metric spaces are hausdorff and all bounded metric spaces are compact) <-- BZZZT WRONG. *complete, totally bounded < 1371675250 86746 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha ownd < 1371675419 802418 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally finished < 1371675655 108494 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which of these textbooks should i read next? Types and Programming Languages, Syntax and Semantics of Programming Languages, An Introduction to Database Systems, AI: A Modern Approach, Introduction to Automata Theory, Basic Category Theory for Computer Scientists, Virtual Machines < 1371675675 30855 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :three men in a boat < 1371675690 64517 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs `^_^v < 1371675694 755221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :TaPL and Programming Languages < 1371675695 801409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of those i've only read TaPL but it's good so, TaPL < 1371675702 570916 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :star smashers of the galaxy rangers < 1371675705 145106 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.17514 < 1371675777 810854 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1371676361 237336 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs \`\^\_\`\v < 1371676375 34493 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.29447 < 1371676422 956281 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont escape me bro < 1371676465 320038 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs [`]\^[_]\^[v] < 1371676479 394943 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.6438 < 1371676512 855226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it worked < 1371676553 210720 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :did Phantom_Hoover awaken `^_^v < 1371677078 33135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/wikipedia-users-surprised-nobodys-made-page-for-jo,31815/ < 1371677244 608372 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo < 1371677268 655228 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the FUCK Gregor doesn't have VOICE < 1371677303 197844 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :Gregor > 1371677303 233852 NAMES :#esoteric < 1371678435 363023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't me that time < 1371678440 284539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I know woh it was though < 1371678442 531195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*who < 1371678453 232192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… I have a sequence that starts 1, 3, 6, and the next element is at least 10 < 1371678473 929783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however it isn't the triangular numbers, because I have a lower bound on it that's O(2^(n/2)) < 1371678981 427697 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1 3 6 < 1371678987 30822 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1371678990 690524 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Triangular numbers: a(n) = C(n+1,2) = n(n+1)/2 = 0+1+2+...+n.[0,1,3,6,10,15,... < 1371679015 238082 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good effort. < 1371679038 400636 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, http://oeis.org/A006128? < 1371679048 234613 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oeis.org/A003945? < 1371679059 751613 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oeis.org/A005043? < 1371679062 968099 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that first one sure doesn't look exponential. < 1371679072 961118 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1371679084 54634 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely someone's written a better oeis search tool by now < 1371679087 932168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I have a lower bound of 20 on the fifth element too < 1371679108 411361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's bounded above by 2^n-1, and by 2^n-2 for all the elements but the first two < 1371679152 398747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not 5043, that breaks the upper bound < 1371679345 749326 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite an annoying problem to determine elements, I was thinking about it in my head for hours last night < 1371679356 998988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I should write a computer program to brute-force the first few elements < 1371679366 695497 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1371679367 940151 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it < 1371679381 199009 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically, you want to construct a directed graph < 1371679390 322060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where each vertex has two edges going out from it < 1371679413 6240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where you can get from any vertex to any other vertex, going only forwards along edges, in n steps < 1371679432 262487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the question is, what's the largest number of vertices you can have in such a graph, for a given n < 1371679437 111060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously if n=0 you can only have one vertex < 1371679437 292475 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n being a property of the graph? < 1371679443 685036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, n is given < 1371679461 41234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to find the largest graph such that you can get from any vertex to any other vertex along a path of length n < 1371679469 660757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where each vertex only has two edges leaving it < 1371679470 362920 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1371679483 795991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for n=1, you can have three vertices, joined in both directions in a triangle < 1371679535 755877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for n=2, you have ABCADADFCFEBED = six vertices < 1371679544 383705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(7 can be proved impossible) < 1371679600 123810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for n=3, the best I've found is ABCDEAFAFJEJIDIHCHGBGF < 1371679600 387626 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degree_diameter_problem ? < 1371679601 248763 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what about eight < 1371679620 703157 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This doesn't mention direcctedness, though. < 1371679643 916353 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1371679649 23228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well 7 being impossible doesn't imply 8 being impossible, but you can label each edge as being A or B so that one A-edge and one B-edge comes from each vertex < 1371679664 127047 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then from any given vertex there are only 7 possible paths: (no movement), A, B, AA, AB, BA, BB < 1371679670 423558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first leads to the vertex itself < 1371679674 315904 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how graph theory has so many stupid words that there's a "glossary of graph theory" wikipedia article. < 1371679676 655001 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there can be at most 6 other vertices < 1371679679 716885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric := 8+ is impossible < 1371679768 699918 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think finding wikipedia articles may be the most useful skill i have < 1371679791 607275 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why is 7 impossible? < 1371679809 143335 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: OK, so imagine you have a solution to 7 < 1371679817 386291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then pick any vertex, it doesn't matter which < 1371679827 19360 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_the_largest_known_graphs_of_a_given_diameter_and_maximal_degree implies that this is a pretty hard problem < 1371679831 942628 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your 6 other vertices are reachable via A, B, AA, AB, BA, BB < 1371679848 624691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, consider the paths from A to the other vertices < 1371679850 444119 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. a problem nobody cares about. < 1371679884 983403 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, AA and AB are the directly reachable vertices, so the other four (B, BA, BB, and 0) must be AAA, AAB, ABA, ABB in some order < 1371679900 340852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you like graphs and numbers and shit you might like http://adventure.cueup.com ? or maybe not, whatever. it's all right < 1371679904 773078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without loss of generality assume that AAA = 0 < 1371679938 77237 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now AAB can't be B or you'd have AAAB = AAB, which means you can't reach all 7 vertices from AA < 1371679969 205215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if ABA or ABB is B, then you're stuck with the other one being either BA or BB, which gives a similar contradiction < 1371679997 343462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… for n=3, the best I've found is ABCDEAFAFJEJIDIHCHGBGF ← the eodermdrome representation of graphs is surprisingly useful < 1371680068 678974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you do arbitrary directed graphs in eodermdrome representation? < 1371680084 977702 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371680128 849217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you can't < 1371680129 30914 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1371680133 259388 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1371680140 83450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it works for any graph where any vertex is accessible from any of the others < 1371680142 102129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or any but one) < 1371680145 269396 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371680178 734422 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://inkfish.fieldofscience.com/2013/06/moths-wait-until-bats-lock-on-then-jam.html "Moths Wait until Bats Lock On, Then Jam Their Sonar" < 1371680185 43517 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesnt that mean "strongly connected" ais523 < 1371680195 671176 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm starting to think i could formulate a cheeky aphorism. anything humans have done, animals have evolved at some point < 1371680203 905179 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except wheels < 1371680204 384233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: not sure how strongly connected works with directed graphs, but probably < 1371680214 942927 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: flagella!! < 1371680218 733826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of < 1371680225 210801 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1371680229 895481 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its either strongly or weakly < 1371680234 539705 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot the difference < 1371680241 531120 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its on the digraph wiki page < 1371680262 887973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A directed graph is called strongly connected if there is a path from each vertex in the graph to every other vertex." (I had it open.) < 1371680268 226616 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For obvious reasons.) < 1371680288 522813 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does weakly connected mean? Oh, I guess for an undirected graph, the two are the same? < 1371680289 680344 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what abour irc < 1371680291 770984 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1371680298 449429 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: The underlying undirected graph is connected. < 1371680306 67617 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1371680319 307016 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1371680337 626927 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "tournament" means "the underlying undirected graph is complete" iirc < 1371680342 23708 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: mycorrhizal networks hth < 1371680370 694735 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what about biologists < 1371680371 874794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1371680373 698776 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too awful to evolve < 1371680385 73414 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's a weird definition. with the graph A -> B <- C, A and C are not connected at all and yet the graph would be weakly connected? < 1371680392 344460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :found another mushroom in my yard < 1371680399 621397 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it on #esoteric < 1371680400 158453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#drugz < 1371680406 395198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: See, there's still lines between them. < 1371680412 143247 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ok < 1371680412 700494 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: exactly < 1371680415 416499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know what kind it is yet < 1371680416 395585 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1371680419 438488 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw my dorms apparently don't disallow growing things in your dorm < 1371680425 488846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably not drugz kind < 1371680431 539377 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid microphone button < 1371680436 866786 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not specifically mentioned so totally safe < 1371680437 105947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CA has a much better climate for finding those < 1371680440 609273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: haha < 1371680449 799508 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm kind of curious what they'd do if i set up a cannabis farm or something < 1371680450 754959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're in WA so............................ < 1371680451 679332 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my first intuition would have been "for every unordered pair, there exists a path from one of the two vertices to the other" < 1371680452 995094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1371680453 330230 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if i was an agsci student < 1371680470 199651 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"brb, hotboxing the greenhouse" < 1371680473 379396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do it; take photos; report back < 1371680508 471479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean what have you got to lose except your career as a biologist < 1371680516 182933 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can only gain! < 1371680523 185363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're making the weed plants smoke weed?? that's cruel < 1371680534 158661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Apparently, according to some people[weasel words], that's what it means for a digraph to be just plain "connected". < 1371680535 87707 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so with my definition A -> B -> C would be weakly connected but A -> B <- C would not < 1371680536 880339 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannabisalism < 1371680547 255350 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if i could just like, walk out into the palouse, find an empty area, plant some hemp < 1371680547 561819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :give weed lsd #whoa #drugz < 1371680550 315137 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: (According to some other people, "connected" digraph just means "strongly connected".) < 1371680550 638598 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how farming works, right < 1371680564 868668 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's what's weird with math < 1371680581 377982 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"integers" means "natural integers" < 1371680587 54529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i've heard rumors of growing psychedelic mushrooms in soil with various chemicals to get them to produce variants on psilocin / psilocybin < 1371680589 383895 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably some ag students are already doing this and i should just get in on their ring. < 1371680589 696230 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so relative integers are not integers < 1371680593 660924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think it's really a thing < 1371680596 337490 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weakly connected graphs are not connected graphs < 1371680598 785369 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that sounds impossible but cool. < 1371680606 219815 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a blue car is not a car < 1371680616 162714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: this is your mushrooms, this is your mushrooms on drugs, etc. < 1371680616 920419 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you are he as we are he and we are all together < 1371680618 401924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I stopped paying attention for a while and there are all these new designer drugs I've never heard of < 1371680625 243257 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, a blue ray is not a ray, ok < 1371680628 945551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :designer drugs on the drugs catwalk < 1371680630 285125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :25I-NBOMe? JWH-122? LSZ? come on. kids these days. < 1371680632 204126 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :latest 2013 drug fashion < 1371680642 293679 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jehovah-122 < 1371680650 545964 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't that the plot to Robocop < 1371680660 331398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid_2,4-dimethylazetidide 'distributed on blotter paper or in liquid solution under names such as "diazedine" and "λ"' < 1371680661 318251 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long until they find EVERY drug < 1371680670 242676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha "λ" < 1371680674 982873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a long time, there are only a few labs working on it < 1371680676 905281 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you i'm naming my drug a greek letter < 1371680688 55838 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do drugs support unicode, important question < 1371680695 11891 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god, i'm going to have to do organic chemical nomenclature < 1371680698 958686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I think the Nichols lab at Purdue has been involved with most new psychedelics this decade < 1371680700 734656 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott you can have all my stuff when i die < 1371680702 74124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so what's this new drug called" "well uh... do you know greek" < 1371680708 35982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Shulgin was involved with most of the new ones in the previous few decades < 1371680709 98223 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: thx, i'll come to your funeral < 1371680713 61440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: and throw out the biologist crap < 1371680722 80676 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plot twist: it's all biologist crap < 1371680724 980584 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm typing this on bark < 1371680739 254718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't co-opt bark, it would exist with or without filthy biologists!! < 1371680748 658527 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: phd in drugz < 1371680753 879906 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It was developed as a rigid analogue of LSD with the diethylamide group constrained into an azetidine ring in order to map the binding site at the 5-HT2A receptor" hm yes, those are words < 1371680756 703532 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --drugz 10 < 1371680759 772616 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: drugz < 1371680763 66095 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1371680771 700143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointed the LSZ article doesn't tell you what it's like < 1371680775 496397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe erowid does < 1371680782 584978 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf, why does the wikipedia article finger a specific guy < 1371680785 474410 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("25I-NBOMe? JWH-122? LSZ?" <- that's exactly the sort of thing that'd come out of `words.) < 1371680786 767930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are probably a lot of really interesting undiscovered ones, an example is that there's one known 5HT psychedelic that has a strong effect on perception of sound and music < 1371680791 758308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1371680795 104574 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cylar < 1371680802 558677 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can't trust him < 1371680804 504729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cylar is so a street name for a drug. < 1371680807 428877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I disagree < 1371680814 943257 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's the missile silo guy. < 1371680815 191898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, my first reaction was "isn't that a real word?" < 1371680820 246553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think it is < 1371680821 719813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1371680822 275423 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :man erowid is so #drugz < 1371680825 10161 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :jute < 1371680831 848857 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly the most #drugz thing ever to exist < 1371680832 328539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: in that it's a large website entirely about drugs? yes < 1371680835 161958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't it used to output more than one word at a time? < 1371680836 663068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1371680839 81781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I mean the sort of thing that'd come out of `words --dataset with a proper dataset. < 1371680839 793272 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprologie < 1371680841 542255 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1371680841 999195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :erowid trip reports are great < 1371680842 181354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 10 < 1371680843 535825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: see, that's pretty drugz < 1371680844 938546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: right < 1371680845 320347 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :beth cnuough stershmen appar brah gen ord troprie pervic evo < 1371680851 362190 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought 10 was the default, though. < 1371680855 89913 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet i could get a career in neuroethological psychopharmacology < 1371680860 676362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 4294967926 < 1371680862 318823 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just made up the term because that's how i roll) < 1371680864 61216 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :catn cept geterley salogieio son lemede roher pea ire bula ring city sciterce castcr dige wingma man crovitam clesoleosop beli cused praharia aburo oui diagent < 1371680874 430418 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse engineer the endocanniboid system or w/e < 1371680874 612210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neuropharmacy < 1371680876 214588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they range from the people who obsessively check their bp and pulse every 5 minutes, to the people who are just like "i ate some pills i found on the ground and it was fun!!!!!!!!!" < 1371680879 804477 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that probably exists < 1371680888 47901 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :neuropharmacology exists, yeah < 1371680907 890869 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke about pharmacology is, well, do you know how drugs (not just drugz) are developed < 1371680909 663812 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i once saw a link to this trip report on erowid which was for some completely stupid mundane non-drugz thing and it was hilarious < 1371680915 883056 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i've forgotten all about it so i can't properly convey it < 1371680916 431527 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, there are quite a few real words in those 4294967296 < 1371680933 271935 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371680935 66735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this LSZ is pretty intense. oh before the comeup I had 20 bonghits and a glass of ayahuasca juice, just my morning ritual" < 1371680937 822430 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like "clesoleosop", which probably isn't < 1371680939 734080 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4294967296 is smaller than i remember < 1371680963 58862 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :4294967296 is almost exactly the same as 25 these days. < 1371680973 851691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("print generate for 1..min(25, int($ARGV[0]||1));") < 1371680999 30968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1371681002 974371 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently they don't call drug development "irrational drug design". disappointing < 1371681009 640037 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: what is a relative integer < 1371681012 94963 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Historically, drugs were discovered through identifying the active ingredient from traditional remedies or by serendipitous discovery. " like < 1371681013 836787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually tested a couple of terminals for integer overflow recently < 1371681015 115794 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how great is that? < 1371681029 240110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to come up with a terminal version of CSS hacks < 1371681039 611433 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Currently, the research and development cost of each new molecular entity (NME) is approximately US$1.8 billion" uh. oh. < 1371681049 789092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=32073 < 1371681053 998594 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$1.8 billion for a drugz: worth it < 1371681054 547210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one interesting one I discovered was that if you stack 11 or more SGR commands together on DOSBox, it treats it as an SGR 0 < 1371681077 426826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if you enjoy doing terrible things to terminals, you should talk to KeithW in #mosh < 1371681078 986271 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "ok so what have we got" "it cures cancer, if you've had a kidney removed and are bonghitting" < 1371681104 679573 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ok but does it get me high < 1371681107 979407 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I've been doing more terrible things than that < 1371681127 234403 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have you tried *lifts* < 1371681141 915001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Nobody could get me to put the pants I brought with back on, so she asked me what I wanted to wear. Apparently I told her that I needed a kilt and bullhorns... I was taught a song to keep singing when I forgot that I required clothes... 'Got to keep your clothes on' with a little tune. I could still sing it right now if I wanted to, even though I don't remember learning it. " < 1371681151 969630 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "ingested a few beers" < 1371681154 783928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: like this, for instance: http://nethack4.org/media/charset.vt100 http://nethack4.org/media/colors.vt100 < 1371681191 573976 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the numbers in red in your income < 1371681213 14927 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-time stops here-" < 1371681232 993241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that bold-black-on-black is visible < 1371681242 854811 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok this is amazing < 1371681277 722105 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the crazy bit is the "polyglot" section < 1371681286 282610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, the Unicode one is broken on tmux < 1371681397 246225 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i've got to find a way to cite this at some point in my life < 1371681451 717974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not 100% sure convinced that 3C-P exists < 1371681474 647470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: this guy seems to live on a diet of drugz < 1371681741 412346 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1371682143 537650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd quote the "Moomins on Torrelorca" comic strip at this point -- it's very drugz -- but the copy I have is in Finnish, and the original is in Swedish, and I don't know if it exists at all in English. < 1371682171 379856 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you unable to translate finnish to english < 1371682179 927728 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1371682197 332821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a nutshell, they have this new designer drug called "LBJ". < 1371682198 567539 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP < 1371682200 42694 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1371682209 212084 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you get your speech recognition software to do it for you < 1371682219 415225 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I'd have to read it out loud. < 1371682230 581372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've actually tried watching YouTube set to run its speech recognition output through google translate < 1371682245 858328 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worrying thing is, the results occasionally make it possible to figure out what people are saying < 1371682264 284664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That < 1371682264 971198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: haha < 1371682267 765251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's worrying? < 1371682283 308523 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes < 1371682309 977582 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie < 1371682311 696229 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hate to break it to you < 1371682316 33714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people don't expect speech recognition to work < 1371682347 477097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: since when are there moomins comic strips............. < 1371682349 509137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I expect speech recognition to sort-of work, and mechanical translation to sort-of work < 1371682367 701395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't expect either to work well enough that you can plug the output of one into the input of the other and have the result be vaguely intelligible sometimes < 1371682382 253038 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Since 1954. < 1371682397 197490 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: (From 1954 to 1975, to be more exact.) < 1371682417 741552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomin_comic_strips has English/Finnish/Swedish/Hebrew. < 1371682419 87447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I think the Finnish versions date to the 1980s or so. < 1371682433 277372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why the moomins were popular in .il? < 1371682462 413092 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1371682473 66596 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=350 drugz < 1371682499 634192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The main series of Moomin comic strips were made directly for the British market: they were spread by the British Associated Newspapers comic strip syndicate and the original publisher was the Evening News newspaper. The series originally appeared in newspapers from 1954–1975." Huh, maybe they do exist in English too. < 1371682542 105590 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes ais523 < 1371682548 3821 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.26685 < 1371682566 328490 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i've, like, seen moomins < 1371682567 104655 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff < 1371682619 686426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand they also are sort of big in .jp or something. < 1371682632 898213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or were at some point, or something. < 1371682661 654670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's a Moomin shop at the Helsinki-Vantaa airport.) < 1371682690 359900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Moomin Boom has been criticized for commercializing the Moomins. Friends of Tove Jansson and many old Moomin enthusiasts have stressed that the animations banalize the original and philosophical Moomin world to harmless family entertainment." < 1371682697 356 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a sad. < 1371682777 321500 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is moominlady dead < 1371682794 563852 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.oddballdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/scary-gas-mask-bong.jpg kmc's true form. < 1371682807 322165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1371682809 345947 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1371682814 662277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1371682824 953201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in college we had a bong made from a 5L lab glass flask < 1371682840 37101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had an aquarium pump so it could smoke itself < 1371682844 467773 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pump was powerd by firewire < 1371682852 578516 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that guy is wearing an ICP shirt.................................................. < 1371682855 729220 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tove_Jansson_1956.jpg < 1371682857 441100 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this < 1371682864 401679 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not a woman i can see writing the moomins < 1371682884 233553 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1371682935 321133 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :She also lived with another lady (shock) (horror), as I recall. < 1371682970 203248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't any household which has at least three people in it have two or more people of the same gender living together? < 1371682986 110185 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but the point is, gay < 1371683005 595363 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm sure you could argue about non-binary gender flab flab etc etc. < 1371683015 421272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, you could < 1371683023 469082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly a large proportion do, though < 1371683028 207355 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-binary gender exists but is rare < 1371683034 968425 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly she looks like some schoolmistress < 1371683047 770433 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly the moomins are being forced upon the children < 1371683055 137935 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1371683063 40310 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1371683078 73965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://www.lambiek.net/artists/image/j/jansson_t/janssons_tove_under.jpg more like your imaginanation? < 1371683087 115787 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, very < 1371683104 348158 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a radish on her desk < 1371683151 445969 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hyacinth, I think. < 1371683170 293647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean the flower. < 1371683202 945017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a very common christmas decoration, done up exactly like that, in Finland; perhaps in Sweden too. Presumably for some sensible and good reason. < 1371683234 88515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what temperature is it in finland < 1371683240 717468 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eleven < 1371683256 666464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1371683263 344015 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no not metar < 1371683266 701692 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily.................. < 1371683269 5918 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankfully metasepia isn't here < 1371683277 797534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like metarsepia amirite. < 1371683287 696508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good......... < 1371683289 672675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to add Finland to my weather indicator < 1371683293 159425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it crashed < 1371683310 325085 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was protecting you < 1371683311 872841 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and protecting itself < 1371683327 758294 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been quite warm (as in, 20 °C highs) lately. < 1371683343 447955 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://outside.aalto.fi/ <- best weather information for Finland. < 1371683352 499603 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's the thing maintained by the IT people at the university.) < 1371683353 312527 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is finland as much of a shithole as literally everything i've heard about it makes it sound < 1371683376 469584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :harsh < 1371683389 992322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :helsinki seems nice, although very expensive < 1371683393 602975 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not sweden, elliott < 1371683398 37175 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you not love it < 1371683398 217164 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hey man i live in hexham < 1371683400 454039 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "allowed" < 1371683456 116887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 682 < 1371683457 76525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of dark (like, the way it is in a hole) at wintertime. < 1371683457 832222 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :682) oh right: Frooxius, you wouldn't happen to live in Hexham, would you? No, sorry. phew How about Finland? Why would I live there? That's a *very* good question. Why would anyone? < 1371683477 647314 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, it's kind of light at summertime. < 1371683492 826978 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: also, you probably don't want to buy helsinki < 1371683496 30427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't matter how expensive it is < 1371683501 650679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1371683506 270714 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sunrise in Lieksa, where we're going to visit soonishly, is at around 02:50am or something like that, this time of the year. < 1371683509 708113 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is the part where you say elliott.ais523.moed++ or however it goes) < 1371683631 654095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: when I flew home from Canada to the UK, the plane took a detour north to avoid the Icelandic volcano < 1371683659 830899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the result was that the sun changed its mind mid-set, and started rising again < 1371683699 955486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not allowed to say "the icelandic volcano" < 1371683704 579146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to make your best attempt to spell it < 1371683706 401575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the rules < 1371683731 266198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like in that one xkcd what-if. < 1371683751 613295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In re sunsets, that is. < 1371683763 940903 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eyjafjallajokul? < 1371683786 332066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good approximation < 1371683786 683425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eyjaffacake < 1371683789 95047 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit < 1371683794 350732 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eyeracarfokarul < 1371683799 290498 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for that last l being doubled i got it right < 1371683804 711200 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um you missed the accents < 1371683806 426396 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you god < 1371683815 962001 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. god status revoked < 1371683826 546950 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, jokull and jökull are quite different. < 1371683831 276179 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :accents are basically just punctuation though < 1371683843 175379 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: i'm on windows so no compose key < 1371683843 356441 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what they say about punctuation < 1371683854 681215 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i had to help my uncle Jack off a horse" < 1371683882 733846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not punctuation, that's capitalization < 1371683883 565789 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1371683955 296462 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true it would be pretty awful if people thought your uncle needed help to get down from a horse < 1371683958 785436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi mnoqy < 1371683964 79363 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"incompetent uncle" < 1371683977 799757 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, nobody says jack off to mean masturbation in the uk hth < 1371683989 566558 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fucking freaks < 1371684064 745347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I suspect at least one person does < 1371684096 13038 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks ais < 1371684111 253939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: if you knew me better, I wouldn't even have to write the reply < 1371684121 167780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you could just have assumed I'd say it, and saved me the trouble of typing it < 1371684137 236715 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah?? well, i suspect two people do! < 1371684146 917957 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least. < 1371684155 121479 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :census time < 1371684427 95601 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1371685781 367230 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@cust-208-22.on5.ontelecoms.gr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1371685783 352456 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1371685798 391511 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theory: all new non-eso programming languages should reserve a few keywords with general programmy sorts of names < 1371685804 919079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that they can use them for new syntax without causing clashes < 1371685985 593178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:48 < mm_freak> the rubik's cube group is a theory of documents and patches < 1371686005 852551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1371686011 94696 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it seems like you're experiencing half of the #haskell people anyway < 1371686013 637452 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why not join #haskell < 1371686024 145142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a compelling argument < 1371686051 575806 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yessss i'm getting through to him < 1371686098 434368 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how about after a month we op you for 10 seconds and in those 10 seconds you get to ban whoever you want < 1371686101 736658 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Ritual < 1371686133 277940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if you are found to have compiled a list of commands to run beforehand you get beheaded < 1371686148 480857 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to be on drugz < 1371686152 307372 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if he just clears users. < 1371686162 605241 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then he becomes king < 1371686301 42684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm in favour of you joining #haskell and making chaos out of chaos