< 1369526539 633524 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --esolangs 10 < 1369526541 343118 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :4dl bf-pda track rainfuck var q-bal cleaseporient suff puzzlang bit < 1369526565 737498 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369526592 363323 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you didn't tell me where the puzzle is < 1369526600 802764 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe you did < 1369526601 32884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bf-pda and rainfuck are of course brainfuck derivatives. Probably a couple of the others too.) < 1369526604 282323 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried but you can't fucking read elliott < 1369526606 543633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeeeeeez < 1369526607 822797 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is true < 1369526623 662481 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is no i in illiterate" < 1369526633 401404 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OPH WOW < 1369526635 42878 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that pUZLE < 1369526642 527205 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott no < 1369526642 733964 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i almost want to get it now < 1369526720 722608 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :github has syntax highlighting for brainfuck < 1369526747 744404 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg barack actually has a klout of 98 < 1369526750 862713 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ure losing barack < 1369526763 682744 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barack's Topics: [...] Barack Obama [...] < 1369526806 650831 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Also for Befunge. ("primary_extension:.befunge"? What the.) < 1369526813 933192 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we stop talking about that O'Bama fellow I'm fed up with all those irish people < 1369526836 805023 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it doesn't have syntax highlighting, though; but it's a "known language". < 1369526866 533130 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"All languages have an associated lexer for syntax highlighting" well then. < 1369526873 843635 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive solvede the puzel :)) :) < 1369527643 63514 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://suspiriadeprofundis.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Comet.jpg < 1369527675 861036 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1369527709 893357 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :P2P law < 1369527724 393313 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reaction < 1369527731 614518 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy, this is about mencis moldbug? < 1369527738 170183 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard something about neo-reactionists somewhere... < 1369527758 363475 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*u < 1369527761 274999 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait do actually know who moldbug is < 1369527762 774049 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so why < 1369527852 73276 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do. i don't know why < 1369527853 643827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you < 1369527858 105208 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett NICK :beeeeeeeeees < 1369527878 784782 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that he exists in the same way brainfuck derivatives exist < 1369527902 555191 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you are not familiar with Mencius Moldbug he is a longwinded Jacobite writer out of New York City." < 1369527925 334184 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he, uh, supports the stuart claim to the throne? < 1369527927 525186 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: have you seen the synchronicity diagram < 1369527944 723636 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: have you seen the circuitous diagram? < 1369527951 23482 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: i don't think so < 1369527968 423484 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Sch%C3%A9ma_synchronicit%C3%A9_in_English.png < 1369527977 624605 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Diagram illustrating concept of synchronicity by CG Jung < 1369527994 363651 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jung is the best < 1369528064 814029 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369528096 934332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think my first exposure to moldbug may have been via nock/urbit (http://moronlab.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/nock-maxwells-equations-of-software.html) and then i read enough to write him off as entertainingly batshit < 1369528111 373964 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1369528113 465614 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit that was him < 1369528117 593555 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh SHIT < 1369528175 493661 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what < 1369528179 793965 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel unclean < 1369528183 963562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says right at the top that mencius didn't write it! < 1369528200 613790 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you speaking of something else unmentioned < 1369528206 653705 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean the link < 1369528221 123915 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember looking at it and it had some dumbass diagram and something about WWII politics that was made up and probably racist < 1369528234 733631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what diagram < 1369528235 913484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is "it" < 1369528241 279818 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is "the link" < 1369528241 737090 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELP < 1369528280 495905 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god he's been doing this for years < 1369528297 184168 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1369528297 695375 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1369528297 974663 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pages and pages... < 1369528299 103537 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are < 1369528299 323737 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1369528300 244393 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking < 1369528302 713985 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :about < 1369528335 343699 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh < 1369528347 193701 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just, fuck, ok < 1369528353 944331 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike i'm going to voice and devoice you repeatedly unless you immediately offer clarification and nothing but < 1369528391 434342 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my god, it's full of pages < 1369528406 115570 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many pages < 1369528414 805042 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike < 1369528417 563794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now! < 1369528443 904026 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1369528445 608996 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm too unclean < 1369528464 924211 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god has left me < 1369528470 604489 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :Bike > 1369528470 629819 NAMES :#esoteric < 1369528474 264144 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -v :Bike > 1369528474 287709 NAMES :#esoteric < 1369528476 583919 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :Bike > 1369528476 606532 NAMES :#esoteric < 1369528478 473881 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -v :Bike > 1369528478 496018 NAMES :#esoteric < 1369528485 284018 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is your explanation!! < 1369528515 773955 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the message i'm taking home from this is not to read anything by this guy, ever < 1369528530 714112 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369528549 163992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i'm going to go to wherever the fuck you are and turn your house upside down unless you immediately specify the value of several referents in your last few real sentences < 1369528610 439057 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of my messages have full stops < 1369528612 603892 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not real sentences < 1369528621 856182 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs Bike.*\. < 1369528645 23714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're being very annoying!!!! < 1369528649 414377 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.21251 < 1369528673 791100 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of these actually involve me < 1369528707 864849 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"anyway for a nilcycle you just take a bike-unicycle and remove the wheel, then hook the pedals up to like... a fan that spins really fast to lift you up a little bit" innovative < 1369528755 444279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what is the "that" that was him, what is "the link", what is the thing that "had some dumbass diagram", what is the thing that he (who is he) has been "doing for years" < 1369528805 504742 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i sound really dumb in logs < 1369528812 153119 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok the he is moldbug < 1369528845 144850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ok that's one piece of information < 1369528853 324926 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«2012-11-11.txt:05:24:55: sometimes I have a transient wish that just for a brief moment words would mean things...» and in that moment i was elliott < 1369528853 834377 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the "that"!!! < 1369528859 595420 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1369528863 606049 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which "that" you mean < 1369528872 824114 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh let's see < 1369528873 775506 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:28:31 wait < 1369528873 974562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:28:33 oh shit that was him < 1369528873 974739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:28:37 oh SHIT < 1369528880 554223 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the link" is the link to moldbug's blog < 1369528882 414565 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the nock thing < 1369528900 873920 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing that had some dumbass diagram is that blog < 1369528914 665168 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing he's been doing for years is being a crazy fucker < 1369528919 874276 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so wait < 1369528931 314825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what on earth do you know mencius moldbug for if not writing a crazy-ass blog on the internet for years < 1369528936 524670 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't realise anyone knew him for anything else at all < 1369528950 565732 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1369528958 504404 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a guy who reads a lot of crazy ass blogs < 1369528966 84971 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get "Moldbug updates" through him sometimes < 1369529034 722600 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like meanwhile in /r/bitcoin but w/ moldbu < 1369529035 461042 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1369529043 5708 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369529046 426287 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except more sad than funny < 1369529141 646190 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean iirc he explicitly calls himself a royalist < 1369529144 484305 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's too crazy to hate < 1369529146 495413 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1369529165 150400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i like nock/urbit even if the author is a friend of a madman < 1369529251 184292 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i learn about moldbug this sounds fascinating < 1369529311 134447 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he went crazy from the stress of having such an awful name < 1369529345 944430 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy i'm sorry < 1369529536 784476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/ < 1369529559 94757 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :warning: anti-democracy, most likely racist, gigantic posts < 1369529677 464709 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm these posts are shorter < 1369529685 475034 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :than the ones i remember < 1369529690 304843 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i glanced at a post and it was about how the climategate people existing meant that the constitution was invalid < 1369529861 836764 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369530418 267866 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369530737 998813 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great i reread the urbit post and want to write @ again < 1369530744 856433 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo < 1369530802 994007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do it elliott < 1369530806 652552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't want to write @ < 1369530843 807243 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369530860 278189 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Oneiric and Linux 3.9 < 1369530862 406267 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, 3.0 < 1369530891 596484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @ is upon us < 1369530891 795610 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: . ? @ activity activity-full admin all-dicts arr ask b52s babel bf bid botsnack brain bug check choice-add choose clear-messages compose devils dice dict dict-help djinn djinn-add < 1369530891 995102 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :djinn-clr djinn-del djinn-env djinn-names djinn-ver do docs dummy easton echo elements elite eval fact fact-cons fact-delete fact-set fact-snoc fact-update faq farber flush foldoc forget fortune < 1369530891 995273 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fptools free freshname ft gazetteer get-shapr ghc girl19 google googleit gsite gwiki hackage help hitchcock hoogle hoogle+ id ignore index instances instances-importing irc-connect jargon join karma < 1369530891 995396 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma+ karma- karma-all keal kind learn leave let list listall listchans listmodules listservers localtime localtime-reply lojban map messages messages? more msg nazi-off nazi-on nixon oeis offline < 1369530891 995500 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oldwiki palomer part paste ping pl pl-resume pointful pointless pointy poll-add poll-close poll-list poll-remove poll-result poll-show pretty print-notices protontorpedo purge-notices quit quote rc < 1369530893 695616 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :read reconnect remember repoint run shootout show slap smack source spell spell-all src tell thank you thanks thx ticker time todo todo-add todo-delete topic-cons topic-init topic-null topic-snoc < 1369530895 709158 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :topic-tail topic-tell type undefine undo unlambda unmtl unpf unpl unpointless uptime url v vera version vote web1913 what where where+ wiki wn world02 yarr yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw yow < 1369530915 65648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that's a bit long. :-( < 1369530918 984383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always forget how long that is. < 1369530922 938627 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot has too many commands. < 1369530932 385647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@b52s < 1369530932 645495 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Girl from Ipanema, she goes to Greenland < 1369530937 135819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@girl19 < 1369530937 415870 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I supposed to be frantic with terror and anxiety? < 1369530945 496164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon < 1369530945 695424 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The press is the enemy. < 1369530947 866020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@farber < 1369530948 171381 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to take a hiatus. < 1369531681 336223 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@b52s < 1369531681 616608 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :His ear lobe fell in the deep. Someone reached in and grabbed it. It was a rock lobster! < 1369531752 846437 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@girl19 < 1369531753 126069 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody can catch me < 1369531760 537230 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION decides to use the GUI-based upgrader this time
< 1369531762 209387 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon < 1369531762 486419 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You won't have Nixon to kick around anymore, because, gentlemen, this is my last press conference. < 1369531763 807224 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@farber < 1369531764 7295 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be smooth < 1369531764 206270 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are never going to fail unless you try. < 1369532043 86767 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://farmersonly.com < 1369532052 397578 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FarmersOnly is not accessible from outside the US and Canada. < 1369532052 734352 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1369532075 686301 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :city folks just don't get it™, elliott. < 1369532118 937752 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it < 1369532126 542892 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :online dating < 1369532131 937420 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for farmers < 1369532134 696731 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1369532147 546451 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw that city folks thing is actually on their logo with the ™ and all < 1369532160 166306 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meet 1,000s of Down to Earth Country Folks Today! < 1369532194 996346 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know a good android scratchpad app? < 1369532203 500353 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me, or are scrollbars weird now < 1369532212 186633 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is annoying with my partially broken mouse wheel < 1369532239 816536 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've been weird since your birth < 1369532286 706418 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's just a thin blue line, and hovering over it reveals a control I can drag or click < 1369532414 971315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rob Ford's lawyer's defense re the crack video: "How can you indicate what the mayor is actually doing or smoking?" < 1369532435 156893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the point where your defense is "you can't prove that crack isn't fake" then I think you've already lost political legitimacy < 1369532435 356361 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has he been impeached or something yet < 1369532452 493379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1369532487 453013 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you've already lost political legitimacy where something called "buzz feed" has a kickstarter campaign to buy a film of you smoking < 1369532492 816973 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because: that's some dumb shit < 1369532532 136706 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent been following but this sounds pretty rad < 1369532595 27858 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its gawker isnt it < 1369532597 16996 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the mayor of toronto is probably a damned politician < 1369532601 827823 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p sure its gawker < 1369532609 127629 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude i don't care < 1369532613 78807 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of those fucking sites < 1369532615 167066 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im pedant < 1369532621 46284 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nO < 1369532627 247103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's gawker < 1369532631 216822 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/rob-ford-crackstarter < 1369532633 6821 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thmc (-: < 1369532641 826918 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not kickstarter either < 1369532642 508462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am im pedant < 1369532649 947483 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo don't get your news from me i lie < 1369532661 126733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: liar < 1369532674 827356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/globe-investigation-the-ford-familys-history-with-drug-dealing/article12153014/?page=all here's the story that broke today about how everyone in his family is a sketchy-ass drug dealer < 1369532690 14796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets really batshit crazy when they get to his sister < 1369532698 424167 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i heard about that < 1369532702 909552 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :her boyfriend was a klansman? < 1369532722 917633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1369532744 947335 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the canadian klan < 1369533023 772553 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the... clan? that does not elide nicely < 1369533043 275730 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the klan < 1369533047 107761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kkkanadaians < 1369533050 37161 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in the ku klux klan < 1369533080 537635 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i know < 1369533086 567211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what book should i read < 1369533114 147163 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you read banks < 1369533149 353409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1369533170 87775 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I’m reading the Revelation Space series at the moment. < 1369533201 687196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think series should be considered harmful until proven innocent < 1369533244 887352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: should i read that < 1369533250 558829 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1369533296 457204 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://heh.fi/revelationspace/ I’m at Absolution Gap < 1369533349 820594 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369533359 327451 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Mind of Primitive Man < 1369533467 457419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Oh, now I remember. < 1369533490 713901 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, imo read banks instead < 1369533495 427773 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion is stupid, probably smells < 1369533497 778507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which banks < 1369533529 318053 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iain (m.) < 1369533569 428363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1369533571 377278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which books < 1369533634 650975 :beeeeeeeeees!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett NICK :tswett < 1369533723 287807 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :READ ALL THE BOOKS < 1369533907 998499 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, player of games, then use of weapons < 1369533934 970872 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott won't listen to the One True Reading Order but hopefully you'll have more success < 1369533936 657923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: btw i found some Cadbury Flake so you don't have to send me any hth < 1369533939 868141 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never smoked crack but i have used a crack pipe < 1369533944 517968 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1369533947 98257 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION -> sleep
< 1369533951 507298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you smoke with it < 1369533959 948199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :5-MeO-DMT < 1369533963 2706 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369533967 167778 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that;s a lot of sci-fi < 1369534007 138567 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I reach Precise, should I watch DS9 or sleep < 1369534032 496189 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :getcho ass in the game < 1369534037 507897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ds9 < 1369534050 948968 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone who hasn't watched ds9 and takes actions other than fixing that is questionable tbh < 1369534055 167840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your computer warping forward in time < 1369534069 165878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't watched ds9 hth < 1369534073 878136 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: i remember this page being much more involved last time < 1369534076 208058 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. It's currently in 2011, but getting to 2012 rapidly < 1369534088 930618 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll take a break once it's fully in 2012. < 1369534104 997909 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Involved? < 1369534106 87892 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :smokin' crack in canada, doo dah, doo dah < 1369534117 819493 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: as in it was longer < 1369534119 287811 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and had more words < 1369534140 237987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: was it illegal when you smoked it < 1369534183 757687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't scheduled < 1369534185 427982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but analog act < 1369534294 378563 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh, you’re probably referring to the version that asked “is this a good reading order?” with a table promoted by some random web site. A friend of mine said that order sucks (reveals some things too early etc.) and recommended this one. < 1369534296 247882 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People care about Geocities, they archived it, that bit of history. < 1369534306 260931 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i watched all of ds9 in a single semester. it was worth it. < 1369534311 849235 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will the same be done for Active Worlds, before it goes down for good, if it does? < 1369534318 377937 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or of other virtual worlds? < 1369534324 508178 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1369534328 498801 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1369534351 648376 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ability to make backups of some parts of Active Worlds does exist. < 1369534361 678026 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading them again is a different story < 1369534371 948201 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As is the social aspects -- some of the data could be abused < 1369534377 708164 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo hope for mount vesuvius < 1369534383 878778 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thousands must die for history < 1369534391 288239 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But not really abusable once AW is gone) < 1369534521 430191 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist < 1369534523 169863 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1369534539 868307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Thanks! < 1369534553 687968 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1369534611 448525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like a KICKSTARTER but for VIDEOS OF POLITICIANS SMOKING CRACK COCAINE! < 1369534762 453738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Since when do we get updates on Saturday? < 1369534771 228660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so did you extract the qbasic docs with links and everything from the original files that ship with qbasic? < 1369534784 78247 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since Burlew decides when we get updates and I don't, that's since when. < 1369534802 171052 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really more of a since why... < 1369535471 588809 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I didn't realize Daft Punk was a duo until now < 1369535475 976217 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame Interstella 5555 < 1369535789 470479 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1369536016 388038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: do you subscribe to `olist........i feel like you should be on that list < 1369536337 199489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:44 the most subtle form of crackpottery is the people who aren't wrong, and actually accomplish something, but what they work on is so ill-conceived it will never be useful < 1369536365 509336 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolangs are a form of crackpottery? < 1369536382 969350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't talking about esolangs in particular. < 1369536420 521216 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you cmccann? < 1369536452 620034 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't we all < 1369536538 229651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is brainfuck a true esolang < 1369536549 590709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik it wasn't designed to be particularly different or difficult < 1369536556 909898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was designed to be very simple and to have a simple compiler < 1369536572 222008 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the central dogma of esolangology < 1369536617 859791 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it was designed an esolang and is weird, so it gets in pretty much by definition < 1369536631 9849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not weird :( < 1369536643 759737 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes it is < 1369536647 957446 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean a very superficial kind of weirdness < 1369536653 409631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even LOLCODE is weird < 1369536657 639917 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an esolang, just a bad one < 1369536677 460058 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck isnt a real language < 1369536680 739887 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheap P'' knockoff < 1369536688 229566 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(flips the bird) < 1369536714 425349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :double prime all the way < 1369536761 329716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway kmc knows what I was quoting cmccann about. < 1369536767 430361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember < 1369537534 690282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is zzo38 < 1369537552 912689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ≪ 3 zzo38, by the way
< 1369537561 421972 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how it took you twenty minutes from quote to explaining it < 1369537576 930358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was busy < 1369537619 410465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (pred.pred.pred) "freud" < 1369537620 638860 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "cobra" < 1369538054 704029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you read any books by vonnegut....id ont remember < 1369538068 51204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369538085 330511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :slaughterhouse five and breakfast of champions < 1369538088 320474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe some others i forgot < 1369538109 681249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think in slaughterhouse five he points out how none of his books have villains in them < 1369538113 930648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least people who are villains < 1369538154 900645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's surprisingly unusual < 1369538173 20771 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get around to reading that book I want to read < 1369538191 252272 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't we all < 1369538205 411219 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You all want to read that specific book that I like? < 1369538209 517567 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*erm, want to read < 1369538211 480829 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1369538216 781440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy < 1369538218 750801 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're done it < 1369538224 781431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've gotten the mnoqy smiley of death < 1369538229 220703 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll die within 24 hours < 1369538290 740686 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what book do you want to read < 1369538315 370908 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Eternal Flame < 1369538319 801005 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by Greg Egan < 1369538391 864219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Theternalame, Gregan < 1369538432 841275 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregand? < 1369538446 311017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :GREG HAS NO SOCKS ON < 1369538916 861503 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I have to admit skimming the science stuff.... well, not real-world science, but pseudoscience is wrong because it's not bad science claiming to be reali science < 1369538934 850864 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :internal science? < 1369540565 472395 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fictional science? < 1369540718 682218 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmscience < 1369540945 712580 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION beatboxes
< 1369540995 43325 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no Bike < 1369540997 723443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do it < 1369541800 925774 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369542059 784108 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369542078 643163 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course my fonts look different < 1369542082 673331 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And stuff is breaking < 1369542084 713473 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1369542092 643998 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS at least < 1369542305 583450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1369542329 274133 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations, your system is now Bike Quality < 1369542335 773725 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hope you have good tech support) < 1369542357 4191 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, why does Chrome still not want to use WebGL? < 1369542362 53009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rumour goes that haswell will be out in ~2 weeks < 1369542620 128723 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...."Overrides the built-in software rendering list and enables GPU-acceleration on unsupported system configurations." < 1369542629 284157 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now wondering what the implications of that are < 1369542635 723567 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides suddenly allowing me to use WebGL < 1369542649 183856 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :may cause impotence < 1369542670 294598 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :may cause idempotence < 1369542672 643709 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is thinking that the fact that enabling that worked implies that this system is not supported, and that there may be a good reason for this
< 1369542707 304904 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369542900 121310 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome sprocklem < 1369542902 874256 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprocklem: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1369543085 827883 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369543109 826950 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369544884 956744 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1369545172 565459 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sepples < 1369545179 655437 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is the server giving me text/plain? < 1369545387 985490 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://twoproblems.com/ < 1369545515 239043 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://twoproblems.com/48 spam? < 1369545561 69027 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike the rest < 1369545894 736434 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369547237 111952 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1369547426 574244 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1369547793 935292 :SgeoN1!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369547926 477259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1369550261 299031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like the audio from the microphone in the RF Famicom is also received by the cartridge (and the expansion port receives the same audio as the cartridge does). (I don't know if any official devices that connect to the expansion port use the sound, though) < 1369552220 850762 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They didn't put the Deadfish implementation in LLVM, Z-machine, Nintendo Famicom, etc < 1369552273 733071 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net TOPIC #esoteric :LLVM, Z-machine, Nintendo Famicom, etc | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric | I vote TYHJÄ. < 1369552755 563459 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added the Deadfish implementation in SQL. < 1369552841 752654 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369552873 510947 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1369552878 301155 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1369552890 2276 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mornin' < 1369552907 431118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :night Taneb < 1369552967 222946 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1369552988 20735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: elliott has a movie for you to watch < 1369552997 611587 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll add it to my list < 1369553006 410925 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this implementation OK? < 1369553039 594775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtpVhEgj7tU < 1369553342 301054 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1369553342 301440 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I suppose the decrement might be rewritten like: UPDATE `DEADFISH` SET `VALUE` = `VALUE` - 1 WHERE `VALUE` > 0; < 1369553342 301654 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1369553342 301732 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 241 seconds > 1369553348 484221 JOIN :#esoteric > 1369553352 611275 JOIN :#esoteric > 1369553353 128661 JOIN :#esoteric > 1369553371 184752 JOIN :#esoteric > 1369553375 314612 JOIN :#esoteric > 1369553375 830652 JOIN :#esoteric > 1369553406 257118 JOIN :#esoteric > 1369553410 370181 JOIN :#esoteric > 1369553410 886196 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369553438 716639 :glogbot!~glogbot@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1369553512 813372 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369553532 246810 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1369553611 597035 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a really awful movie < 1369553759 101973 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has like one and a half out of ten on imdb < 1369553805 378023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you gotta watch the whole thing < 1369553823 274289 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I can < 1369553888 101359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gotta do it < 1369553901 710385 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An old korean woman is singing God Bless America while eating a McDonald's burger < 1369553911 698597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real Fast Nora is in your bones < 1369553921 284901 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No! < 1369553942 117714 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download is in my bones! < 1369553968 884962 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is only three quarters of those tokens! < 1369554006 167147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :calm down < 1369554011 913461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just keep watching < 1369554040 56724 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no story! < 1369554044 723187 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The characters are awful! < 1369554060 809665 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need a story to make a good story. < 1369554063 120474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: was that language name actually a spambot name? < 1369554069 119744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed it was simply created to resemble a spambot name < 1369554077 315580 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a clip show of what happens in a hair salon! < 1369554085 309928 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it was an article posted by a spambot < 1369554087 973649 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1369554094 194941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: right < 1369554106 71612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need more esolangs named after spam < 1369554143 881743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 4keep watching < 1369554160 121587 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need more esolangs named after eggs and spam and spam and eggs and spam; you already have some named after spam. < 1369554173 522347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4/⚠\ < 1369554217 390427 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is this an exorcism < 1369554365 647140 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this SQL code better now? < 1369554375 624236 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and explanation of its use) < 1369554420 65292 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the problem is you haven't watched nora's hair salon 1-2 < 1369554423 913150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you did you'd understand < 1369554463 866722 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: weren't you talking earlier about how 2 was a departure in the series' overarching plot arc < 1369554564 342479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes but in retrospect it offers several thematic keys that are necessary for full understanding of its revealed wholeness < 1369554677 358663 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1369554708 224200 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i;m gonna be honest here i've only seen nora's hair salon's porn parody version < 1369554732 763096 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369554742 631454 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was never aware there was such a deep nora's hair salon culture < 1369554791 804206 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1369555102 432160 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully now you know, then, if there is such things or not. < 1369555472 24029 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning < 1369555537 373438 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is "nora's hair salon" an actual legit TV series or movie or something? < 1369555543 211561 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than just an esolang < 1369555580 827841 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll let Taneb explain < 1369555581 800186 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it seems like it is indeed < 1369555585 769452 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to ddg < 1369555605 39783 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why name an esolang after it though < 1369555618 150191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A spammer created a page with that name, apparently. < 1369555620 302285 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kinda question is that < 1369555626 78036 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1369555626 949040 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also ==Bike < 1369556180 369131 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting, I'm copying files over NFS from my RPi. Seems the copy speed is disk I/O bound on the RPi, since doing stuff that uses the disk heavily on it slows down the copying by about 2 MiB/s. < 1369556222 57246 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or hm, I am using a external USB HDD, and the ethernet is also on USB, so that could be the bottleneck < 1369557431 930105 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should copy more directly < 1369557457 607344 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking 14MiB/s would be a more reasonable rate < 1369557794 514691 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.227.178 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1369558125 117373 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, the RPi doesn't have gbit ethernet though' < 1369558135 831989 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway the copy is done since long, just 1.4 GB to copy < 1369558344 741034 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369558444 138964 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I mean, attach the HDD to the computer you're copying to < 1369558492 707763 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369558497 721732 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, the computer I'm copying *to* is not the bottleneck by far. The RPi I'm copying from is the issue < 1369558556 631792 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, as for attaching the HDD, no, not really, it is the system disk of the RPi < 1369558576 184965 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since I use my RPi as a server that would be awkward < 1369558849 510194 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, anyway I'm not sure 14 MiB/s would be reasonable, the USB HDD is USB 3 after all < 1369558856 107930 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that RPi can use that < 1369559480 964394 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369559525 763019 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369560564 265186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes. I think I may have used some QuickBasic tools to "decompile" the help file first. < 1369560670 114462 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1369560670 221731 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1369560673 16486 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1369560693 585554 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, that's what happened; the tools gave me http://sprunge.us/Bfhb and then some Perl took it from there. < 1369560694 664839 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, wasn't QuickBasic for DOS or something? < 1369560723 850343 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Sure. < 1369560733 333103 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you do with the manual? < 1369560748 551088 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hoped fungot, but can't spot any new entries < 1369560748 898269 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it wasn't just whimsical, it was an issue < 1369560758 561437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste quotes < 1369560763 378867 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/quotes < 1369560774 343616 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I made http://zem.fi/~fis/qbc.html out of it. This was quite a while back. < 1369560794 963907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(March 2009, if these timestamps are anything to go by.) < 1369560810 965428 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I think IPv6 on that host is a bit slow btw < 1369560833 835150 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ipv6.google.com (so it isn't on my end) responds fast but your site took several seconds < 1369560876 202215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The QBasic help file had more or less the same format as the QuickBasic ones.) < 1369560877 774923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh... < 1369560895 708145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1369560913 571583 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :confusing names < 1369560922 313616 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :qbasic sounds like shorthand for quickbasic... < 1369560928 854050 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not, though. < 1369560950 951264 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gathered as much, which was why I said it was confusing < 1369560979 785572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote shachaf, your < 1369560981 772076 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :814) shachaf, your a fucking piece of shit, die and kill your family < 1369560989 514814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that about? < 1369561004 355444 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote on which note I < 1369561006 312525 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1369561009 68335 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote on which note, I < 1369561010 753262 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :417) Non sequitur is my forte On-topic discussion is my piano Bowls of sugary breakfast cereal is my mezzoforte Full fat milk is my pianissimo On which note, I'm hungry < 1369561037 888622 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1369561044 149852 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Apparently it was Phantom_Hoover trying to be a pretend elliott. < 1369561063 441309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You added the quote yourself.) < 1369561075 526842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1369561078 304830 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate zip bombs... < 1369561081 814128 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's p. bad < 1369561086 549540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should probably delete it < 1369561130 803902 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know an easy way to batch create directories when extracting, neither 7z nor unzip on the command line appear to have options for that. I guess I'll write my own script < 1369561173 46022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 814 < 1369561178 695892 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* shachaf, your a fucking piece of shit, die and kill your family < 1369561466 123061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: unzip blah.zip -d intodir < 1369561509 817105 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369561543 59787 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah I hoped it could auto-gen intodir from blah.zip name < 1369561550 893794 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I have over 20 zip files.. < 1369562144 872250 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You can do that with a script < 1369562161 851966 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did, as I said < 1369562168 763544 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just hoped there was a built in way < 1369562251 542613 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :for x in *.zip; do unzip x -d $( basename x .zip ); done < 1369562262 615104 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the way you'd do it in bash < 1369562278 493612 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, your way is not space safe < 1369562290 636677 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that would have broken horribly < 1369562294 654702 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1369562299 554951 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you forgot a few $ < 1369562303 789908 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also true < 1369562313 653722 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just add $ and quoting < 1369562352 958242 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, I ended up writing this (since I didn't noticed the -d flag at that point): for i in *.zip; do target="${i/ (MP3).zip/}"; mkdir "$target" && (cd "$target" && unzip "../$i"); done < 1369562412 166379 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the parens are there to contain the effect of the directory change) < 1369562633 365275 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like how the last line of the dmesg on my RPi is "[674315.948455] [BLOCK] I\x19" < 1369562640 259508 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't look right at all < 1369562678 761552 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :/var/log/kern.log looks normal though < 1369565239 713474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs main[] < 1369565246 100702 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: missing terminating ] for character class \ http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.10129 < 1369565274 471204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs main\[\] < 1369565311 886452 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.8377 < 1369565365 615684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`q < 1369565366 974403 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :const int main[]={232,1230520576,3943032963,1852793621,1763734643,1830843502,1533962593,2105228637,826804795,1220607680,2370422665,826805616,252883666,3247000837,1221734733,186936461,738215366,1221459784,2336342065,3526445057,4148693683,818053363,1207981448,3229994495,4282968949,1220607685,2370367113,1208755284,84929065,1237516105,1225048451,191509 < 1369565378 48405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run q | paste < 1369565383 926666 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.29668 < 1369565392 828163 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which q) < 1369565394 645982 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF............>.....�@.....@.......� ..........@.8..@.........@.......@.@.....@.@.....�.......�............................@......@............................................@.......@.....�......�........ ............�......�`.....�`.................... ...........�......�`.....�`.....�.......�................ < 1369566149 752782 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369566262 859730 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369567054 410266 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1369567056 572011 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sda < 1369567205 190753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finally understand monoids! monoids are so intuitive now < 1369567225 384071 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Explain them < 1369567292 192815 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoids are just monoids in the category of whatever < 1369567297 904093 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :endomorphisms < 1369567363 837745 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hey < 1369567368 425858 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1369568037 274234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain are you thinking what oklopol is thinking < 1369568037 533285 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, Brain, but how would we ever determine Sandra Bullock's shoe size? < 1369568051 86563 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what's up < 1369568064 436986 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369568587 421735 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Now go onto semigroups and rings < 1369568592 128126 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And magmas < 1369568770 350952 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :semigroups shouldn't be _that_ hard after monoids < 1369568826 784307 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: work, coding, music, geocaching. < 1369568844 641851 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: sounds good < 1369568849 755268 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :u? < 1369568850 536433 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: is any of it good < 1369568855 327010 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all pretty good imo < 1369568862 945811 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been doing uh < 1369568863 164255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i good < 1369568865 111156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much < 1369568872 428199 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :need an oklopolian work ethic < 1369568899 5617 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly i've been concentrating on the work part < 1369568912 356559 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i don't get my phd soon i'm going to die of embarrassment < 1369568918 172890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the work < 1369568918 173053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1369568922 207988 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1369568924 4997 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :research < 1369568933 526585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you researching < 1369568935 865519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you get a phd in irc? < 1369568938 279543 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :symbolic dynamics and this < 1369568940 297009 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shit < 1369568968 110933 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you can < 1369569019 162070 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cellular automata < 1369569342 951582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1369570163 745757 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1369571509 812436 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.143.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369573657 264891 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369574061 464402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hi < 1369574079 107512 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'afternoon < 1369574186 498779 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : he's too crazy to hate <-- that would be a great tagline, no < 1369574213 910271 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'll tell it to the WSJ < 1369574247 828476 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :murdoch: too crazy to hate? < 1369574302 706977 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume you've seen that btw < 1369574554 704303 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1369574558 875072 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/globe-investigation-the-ford-familys-history-with-drug-dealing/article12153014/?page=all here's the story that broke today about how everyone in his family is a sketchy-ass drug dealer < 1369574582 884076 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shall read that with the standard xkcd adjustment < 1369574645 891827 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that was a really early xkcd < 1369574655 762566 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: did you not see the wsj thing... < 1369574677 774175 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't know the wsj thing hth
< 1369574694 474718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Phantom_Hoover: http://catseye.tc/wsj.html < 1369574701 452159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :linked in here by the dishonourable cpressey < 1369574836 707396 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone designed brain[expletitive deleted] yet < 1369574884 951792 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's that new < 1369574898 49595 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been skipping logs < 1369574930 71775 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dire mistake < 1369574935 24625 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really hope they interview zzo < 1369575039 715227 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...can the universe survive that < 1369575060 404351 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so long as Taneb and elliott don't meet we should be fine < 1369575073 784665 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay if you are sure about that < 1369575144 800097 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turns out that i was taneb allong.... < 1369575163 204506 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: how';s your eodedmoermomoemdiomermoemdoimeoirmdomoeimromdome implementation < 1369575188 786120 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never tried making an eodermdrome interpretation, i just tell other people to do it < 1369575195 815094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did try!!! < 1369575259 288647 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Also, it's a little known fact that all esolangers harbour a Howard-Hughes-esque fear of telephones -- I mean, how can you ever be completely sure they've been adequately sanitized, amirite?" <-- wait my fear of telephones and my paranoid hygiene are _entirely_ unrelated matters hth < 1369575355 261862 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think oerjan probably is a telephone < 1369575402 961425 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also eodedmoermomoemdiomermoemdoimeoirmdomoeimromdome is an _entirely_ unacceptable synonym of eodermdrome, it doesn't even have d and r neighboring hth < 1369575573 70932 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear chris actually suggested zzo < 1369575698 414422 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1369575724 911111 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :howard hughes was in at least 3 serious airplane crashes i know of so far < 1369576010 182635 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't want to dwell on this, but I feel a need to be perfectly clear. When you eat at a restaurant, you don't think about the rats, even though, statistically speaking, they are less than 30 feet away. If you write about esolang, YOU WILL BE WRITING ABOUT THE RATS." help < 1369576014 257451 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that even mean < 1369576020 233826 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : > map (pred.pred.pred) "freud" <-- hm... < 1369576058 68894 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (map pred) "jung" < 1369576059 472696 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["jung","itmf","hsle","grkd","fqjc","epib","doha","cng`","bmf_","ale^","`kd... < 1369576077 106594 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (map pred) "cngz" < 1369576078 422376 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["cngz","bmfy","alex","`kdw","_jcv","^ibu","]hat","\\g`s","[f_r","Ze^q","Yd... < 1369576096 815585 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (map pred) "zkdw" < 1369576098 65530 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["zkdw","yjcv","xibu","what","vg`s","uf_r","te^q","sd]p","rc\\o","qb[n","pa... < 1369576100 966185 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369576111 414823 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (map pred) "vgzs" < 1369576112 785548 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["vgzs","ufyr","texq","sdwp","rcvo","qbun","patm","o`sl","n_rk","m^qj","l]p... < 1369576134 656914 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (map pred) "ozsl" < 1369576135 943220 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["ozsl","nyrk","mxqj","lwpi","kvoh","jung","itmf","hsle","grkd","fqjc","epi... < 1369576163 532215 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369576445 924718 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : You need more esolangs named after eggs and spam and spam and eggs and spam; you already have some named after spam. <-- he has a point there < 1369576677 764057 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.143.211 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369577539 648066 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.143.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369577982 75653 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What’s the olist? < 1369579356 569421 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.239.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369579500 409462 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 QUIT :Quit: i do not like green eggs and spam < 1369579880 195901 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.239.2 PART :#esoteric < 1369580006 301371 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, oots < 1369580139 367981 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so < 1369580148 683640 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is this syndication thing american tv keeps going on about < 1369580156 705334 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its whre you syndicajtei :))) < 1369580159 370055 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-: < 1369580165 952252 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANy q's < 1369580360 449158 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh shit I forgot to tell you. < 1369580363 783643 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a baby brother now! < 1369580367 101206 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :His name is Oliver. < 1369580831 276964 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations < 1369581346 636300 :Efluxen!~efluxen@95.68.83.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369581365 238001 :Efluxen!~efluxen@95.68.83.42 PART :#esoteric < 1369581402 495677 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.238.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369582750 464150 :iamcal__!uid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jzexaqqvuiibeydg QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1369582769 43912 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1369582824 2005 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369582879 562768 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hlakiiqzxsoaxqxu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1369582879 635297 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369582888 882693 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369583334 382872 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369583448 87420 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, that's a tough one. is it CHIP-8? < 1369583497 162091 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hey cpressey < 1369583503 388571 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey coppro < 1369583651 858049 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1369583657 269937 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 230000 more graphs to generate < 1369584299 398621 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1369584454 671507 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.143.211 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369584637 361801 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369584859 481493 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1369585034 858315 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1369585034 858394 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1369585876 520343 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.239.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369585939 501060 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.238.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1369585967 807076 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369586244 536960 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.239.4 PART :#esoteric < 1369586659 363859 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.143.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369586877 118013 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.238.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369586886 609549 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.238.34 PART :#esoteric < 1369587920 768714 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be awesome: An HTML5 client for BYOND servers. < 1369588036 938645 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that a question. < 1369588127 924002 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a statement. < 1369588533 47304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: like syndicating TV shows? after the first run they sell off the rights to re-run the show < 1369588718 654829 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1369588962 280687 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369589718 402579 :iamcal__!uid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fthhzlkuimoqzlvo JOIN :#esoteric < 1369589755 479938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1369589892 75556 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ivjpvuhwrpfxrgjz JOIN :#esoteric < 1369590220 272227 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So glad Moonlight works on Linux < 1369590232 539086 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why can't I login to Robozzle dammit < 1369590513 569719 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid the part of my brain dedicated to robozzle might be too big for my own good if I keep learning about that stack < 1369590539 613463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonlight being the silverlight implementation? or what < 1369590553 840081 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, yes < 1369590935 284220 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going to go watch some DS9 < 1369591063 412986 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...........fuck < 1369591139 218951 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi zzo38 would you like to give an interview from someone from the wall street journal? < 1369591146 80099 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/from/to/ < 1369591160 443301 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.239.19 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369591172 817182 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.239.19 PART :#esoteric < 1369591177 201354 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://catseye.tc/wsj.html <-- read < 1369591197 820581 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone else: http://i4.minus.com/ibmS7uAFLGOZ0n.jpg < 1369591261 448067 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i'm perfectly happy to direct them straight to you, if you'd like to talk with them < 1369591299 612655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: you should spell it "nut graf" if you really want to be all J-school < 1369591326 769128 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: noted and thank you for your authenticity-enhancing tip < 1369591470 184686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs don't get much traction on Hacker News because they rarely have web frameworks or million-dollar Series A rounds < 1369591510 96569 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should write a web framework in brainfuck < 1369591528 120352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably been done, because brainfuck is so popular < 1369591529 128668 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or compile one down to brainfuck at least < 1369591545 195626 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :careful what you wish for! also I wouldn't be surprised if I were to find out it already existed < 1369591564 129696 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazon wants me to update Flash. I am using the last version of standalone Flash that Adobe put out for Linux. If I switch to the more up-to-date thing that comes with Chrome, it will complain because that has no DRM. < 1369591593 94559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/masylum/Brainfuck-on-Rails < 1369591624 120111 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I found that too < 1369591632 745222 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 20 MB of code < 1369591640 243532 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: You're fucked < 1369591690 732378 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not surprised) < 1369591744 318406 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 MB of security holes < 1369591809 747129 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Brainfuck can't read from disk, only read the input and write to the output < 1369591813 434728 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's bulletproof < 1369591826 619968 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PART :#esoteric < 1369591832 451327 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.238.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369591838 51710 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1369591853 621652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/ticklemynausea/gobsprogram/pull/4 a productive afternoon < 1369591860 528153 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd think that < 1369591867 14480 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.238.10 PART :#esoteric < 1369592175 664424 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1369592204 477004 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/ticklemynausea/gobsprogram < 1369592209 826150 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That list is pretty small < 1369592274 106481 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369592354 99858 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"every language" They still have a lot of work < 1369592429 261389 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many different african dialects does that include? < 1369592443 690600 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose all of them < 1369592509 375284 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone actually made the xkcd tetris http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_giTK__WVOw < 1369592564 68733 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: have you looked at that "not tetris" program from that "stabyourself" guy who also made mario-portal? < 1369592593 155728 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not Tetris 2 is fantastic < 1369592627 488729 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway http://drilbert.tumblr.com < 1369592636 191770 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soneone should port all that stuff to android < 1369592674 912650 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: hmm for a game called "hell tetris" the video looks incredibly tolerant < 1369592696 80548 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the idea of bastet < 1369592750 584712 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I don't want to make any nonfunny sex joke but he inserts some pieces is some holes that look much too small for me < 1369592862 996556 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Installing libhal1 and hal worked < 1369592865 757927 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell is getting mad that you can't get any lines in hell tetris < 1369592889 180749 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAL tetris < 1369592959 405781 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bastet is short for bastard tetris which is pretty much like regular tetris, except the fact that it calculates the usefulness of all available stones and always gives you the ones that will help you the least < 1369592964 727608 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, possibly the only thing from HAL that actually works today is that computers can beat people at chess < 1369592977 952630 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything else is bad 60s scifi < 1369593204 167504 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: bastet doesn't actually give the worst piece, because the programmer thought that it would be too difficult < 1369593219 749719 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then some people beat the game < 1369593276 550726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: yeah i had to do that for DRM'd videos on Hulu < 1369593276 793319 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, giving the worst piece would be too predictable < 1369593306 575904 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: isn't it beaten because it is predictable? < 1369593344 174486 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get this idea of putting DRM on digital distribution of shows that are free over the air anyway < 1369593355 444247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only takes ONE person to put it on Bittorrent < 1369593370 264393 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :But until that person shows up < 1369593413 605772 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: if that's the case, then bastet sounds like crap < 1369593487 97127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: uh < 1369593499 531203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the text on drilbert come from anywhere in particular? < 1369593506 764077 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1369593536 296328 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "Tweets by @Dril" < 1369593582 524366 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I don't know, sorry. < 1369593590 614032 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I don't think I am able. < 1369593625 540034 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«@ernest_borg9 @RichardDawkins impossible. for he has already denounced the neologism "OWned", and i cannot own him, nor him me,» < 1369593627 107887 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it zzo38 < 1369593628 155808 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/51cfac4f0763b0c76df19bc72de4ab6a/tumblr_mlfbgcQ9n31sou3fto1_250.png < 1369593630 567910 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :believe in yourself < 1369593808 342926 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are hal and libhal1 anyway? < 1369593960 942751 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a program that takes over all your hardware < 1369594033 412007 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, well, could be laziness ... same reason it makes 'sense' to have data bounce off of cell tower and back to message someone just down the hallway < 1369594050 221898 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The infrastructure is there, are you going to start making special cases? < 1369594181 433676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: well I know that for Hulu, most of the content isn't DRMed, because I could use it fine, and then one day i had to install hal/libhal1 to watch an episode of Community < 1369594189 483460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I conclude that NBC made them turn it on for that show specifically < 1369594200 786485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is pretty weird < 1369594268 584098 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1369594573 469473 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hulu sounds so much better than the iplayer < 1369594600 459310 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i could live in your capitalist paradise rather than kneeling before the fist of socialism < 1369594959 782683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is pretty great < 1369595055 394370 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369595117 545406 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369595189 48451 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369595294 515107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: your line drawing is broken around "\\ Integer division symbol" < 1369595323 134097 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I think your letter to Wall Street Journal is good; make it in the IRC. Certainly I am able to do it in the IRC, and so are you, I guess. < 1369595381 306132 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if you're here while it's happening, feel free to chip in. note: the likelihood of the reporter agreeing to do it on IRC is thought to be small < 1369595405 431429 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably you are correct. < 1369595410 257929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a few other places that backslashes appear < 1369595564 606438 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can i still make the reporter try to contact you, if they don't agree to my conditions? it sounds like a nice task to set before them. if they succeed in contacting you, you can then refer them to (i dunno, let's say) oerjan. < 1369595617 561652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It's because the integer division symbol is \. < 1369595650 906525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yeah, it has \\s in place of \s, which breaks some formatted tables, for example. < 1369595666 831103 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose you missed that.) < 1369595669 825595 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Sure, you can, but I don't think they can. I can probably tell them a few things too, refer them to oerjan, who tell them some more thing and refer to someone else and then they tell some more things until it is complete, but clearly it seem this way is not as good as using the IRC. < 1369595704 376786 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1369596040 691779 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I agree, but sometimes, you just have to make do with what you got. thanks! < 1369596090 456024 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.239.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369596093 641099 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, then < 1369596142 94909 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369596249 243731 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1369596542 149265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is a huge fan of line drawing characters
< 1369596609 667198 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you moderate a line drawing characters fandom forum < 1369596648 608828 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1369596686 295472 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Using CP437 or Unicode or shift-in/shift-out line drawing or ASCII approximations or all of them or something else entirely? < 1369596724 957189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When doing line drawing I usually use CP437 or ASCII approximations, although you might use whatever is necessary for whatever is being done. < 1369596741 725045 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also the Zork runic font which also contains line drawing. < 1369596812 866630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8 < 1369596880 503417 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it is an encoding for Unicode. But, if you use Unicode for line drawing how are you going to supposed to know if the text is the correct width that it will line up properly? < 1369596984 865020 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lack of han characters for drawing lines is a major weakness of the orthography IMO < 1369597006 137484 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.239.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369597039 923548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the same way I know in any other character encoding? < 1369597064 784299 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bresenham%27s_line_algorithm looks interesting < 1369597085 603662 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: But in Unicode it is ambiguous. < 1369597105 161152 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: i wish i'd known that back when i played with TIs < 1369597128 64270 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: as a matter of fact, that's what I'm doing nowadays < 1369597135 445855 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.239.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1369597155 848203 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, during eg. religion class (note: this is confidential, do not leak) < 1369597159 821707 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Maybe you should write more about Z-machine? I know some things about Z-machine and have written an assembler and interpreter and an addendum to the standards document; so if there are some things you don't know, you can try to ask me and maybe I know or don't know either. < 1369597188 336211 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Then don't post it on the public IRC. < 1369597190 891705 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: are TIs your religion < 1369597200 501086 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: possibly < 1369597208 984607 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've implemented RSA in TI-Basic before < 1369597244 47946 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that it was really useful because I couldn't use any key-sizes that were not crackable < 1369597287 470462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should implement RSA in QBASIC < 1369597324 774229 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I found that it was pretty annoying, also not that it cost me AT LEAST 5 full classes < 1369597404 442696 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to actually type in the ASCII table (well part of it) < 1369597422 636828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :TI-92 has ASCII built-in. < 1369597430 667340 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a review site for algorithms. RSA 2/5 stars, pretty annoying + took me five whole religion classes to implement + i couldn't even securely sign my notes < 1369597444 223600 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: 83+ doesn't unfortunately < 1369597472 631115 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well as far as I know, and it's definitely not something you can easily access through TI-Basic) < 1369597482 241409 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: O, OK, well, I have a TI-92, but I think TI-83 is more common. < 1369597486 368135 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, RSA doesn't depend on encoding, why'd you need a table < 1369597496 873006 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I wanted to be able to type in strings < 1369597511 952085 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the result would be a list of bits < 1369597529 599292 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is there not something like that defaultly < 1369597532 7005 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it's been a while < 1369597555 299089 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there really isn't a lot defaultly < 1369597582 900720 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :You even need to write an asm program to enable lowercase letters < 1369597620 103334 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, i remember finding the asm functions but having no idea how to use them < 1369597654 615993 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you write the hexadecimal instructions in a program, you run that program with AsmPrgrm hth < 1369597690 124724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really "asm" then is it :) < 1369597692 228576 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have the emulator on my computer though, to emulate TI-83, TI-92, etc. (You can download the most recent ROMs from Texas Instruments) < 1369597698 213048 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :But writing asm programs on the calculator itself is generally rather annoying for that reason < 1369597726 440516 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't really know much about the Z-machine; I tried to read the spec once, but all those packed values made my head spin < 1369597728 535704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc on the 83 not-plus, the syntax for this was even weirder and less documented < 1369597749 166454 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that and the virtual memory paging stuff < 1369597755 209242 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ever used the GetCalc functions? That's great fun < 1369597763 826251 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i hear there are riots in sweden < 1369597764 6194 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1369597771 679770 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not a "hardcore" calculator programmer < 1369597790 820759 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used them to make some really boring game before < 1369597826 522033 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend made a simple platformer with walljumping < 1369597843 991597 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«'Youth rioting' in Sweden? It's the Muslims, stupid - WND» i'm not sure i want to look this up Phantom__Hoover < 1369597859 208122 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :one disadvantage is that both graphics and GetCalc (and the like) are really slow < 1369597862 562151 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can only reflect badly on sweden! < 1369597871 670503 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually WND is an american site < 1369597881 129896 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: yeah it was like half a second between frames `-` < 1369597889 720265 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, which is terrible < 1369597896 121417 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes writing games with graphics in TI-Basics pretty much impossible (well not if you want good graphics) < 1369597899 792896 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus qez! < 1369597904 436375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WorldNetDaily? yeah it's right wing conspiracy nonsense < 1369597928 567795 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you write them in Z80, the result can be surprisingly fast < 1369597936 387338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Virtual memory paging stuff? < 1369597937 253266 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how this is basically exactly the same as the uk riots back in the day < 1369597982 807445 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man all my news is just about the code pink activist < 1369597984 658810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Well, I have written games for TI-92 that doesn't use graphics, and I used other tricks to speed it up even more; specifically, I made a solitaire card game. At first the shuffling was slow but I figured out how to make it fast. < 1369597987 889965 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't we have some good riots, america!! < 1369598011 902324 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it was a long time ago so my memory is basically nil, but i thought the Z-machine had multiple tiers of memory (and you access the higher tiers, which are swapped from disk on a small system, using packed addresses or something) < 1369598044 434234 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, can you even have good riots < 1369598061 152115 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure, some optimizations can be made. And indeed using no graphics (or graphics that don't have animations) works too < 1369598082 361393 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: i don't know, i'm not a riot enthusiast, just a dabbler < 1369598091 327924 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a VM meant for 8-bit systems that accesses >64K of memory has a complex memory access system, who'd've guessed < 1369598103 872681 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other news quotes: " same as the uk riots back in the day < 1369598104 123165 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:53 < Bike> man all my news is just about the code pink activist < 1369598107 116725 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuugh < 1369598108 873086 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" same as the uk riots back in the day < 1369598109 83634 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:53 < Bike> man all my news is just about the code pink activist < 1369598111 558735 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK < 1369598112 797703 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck. < 1369598117 611467 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: There is multiple tiers of memory, which are dynamic, static, and high. High memory can only contain text strings and instructions though, and the interpreter may use virtual memory to implement it, but to the Z-machine itself it is probably like Harvard memory, I suppose. < 1369598118 616789 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z-machine? < 1369598131 49857 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple tyres of memory < 1369598131 612626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However it isn't really Harvard since it is possible to store text strings and instructions in RAM, too. < 1369598161 63469 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not competent enough to paste into terminals < 1369598166 460786 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, oh, you're not using xchat (xchat fucks up my copy/paste all the time as well) < 1369598180 672418 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I really don't get the hate for this guy. according to your information, all he did was eating the heart of a dead body." < 1369598212 170547 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dynamic and static memory is really the same except that only the dynamic memory has to be stored in RAM and in save files and undo buffer; static memory acts exactly the same as dynamic memory except that you may not write to it. High memory is also the same except that there are many more restrictions on its use. < 1369598222 194266 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, a text adventure ... thingy < 1369598225 850400 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, not a real machine < 1369598233 53284 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a virtual machine used for text adventures < 1369598278 817953 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gabon without France is like a car with no driver. France without Gabon is like a car with no fuel..." meanwhile in the past < 1369598349 35682 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you have under 6502 machine code, Commodore 64, Atari 2600 VCS, Commodore VIC-20, Apple II, but there are more such as the Nintendo Family Computer. However, in the Nintendo Family Computer, the traces that implement decimal mode were physically cut, in order to prevent decimal mode from working (other than this, it is an actual 6502 core). < 1369598392 57201 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, why prevent decimal mode from working? < 1369598393 415983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did they do that? < 1369598423 541057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think due to patent issues. < 1369598436 205953 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol so they just left them in there but prevented them from working? < 1369598463 662991 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; the logic for decimal mode is still in there, but the trace that connects it to the rest of the circuit is cut off to prevent it from working. < 1369598469 727234 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369598482 674630 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll teach 'em < 1369598516 162886 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are pretty serious about protecting our patent on decimal arithmetic, see < 1369598530 938138 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there's intel, who kill cores because they can < 1369598565 370662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do it to sell different products at different price points < 1369598589 331274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a lot of that is parts of the chip that don't work reliably < 1369598795 581543 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.238.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369598798 965609 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.238.18 PART :#esoteric < 1369599004 315036 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.239.21 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1369599030 232866 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly we need a Z-machine interpreter in Haskell < 1369599090 890394 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematically pure z machine < 1369599103 393057 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would be surprised if that has not been done < 1369599148 460966 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Andrew Plotkin is currently (June 1997) drafting a..." < 1369599209 203331 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'To call itself "Standard", an interpreter should (as far as anyone knows) obey this document exactly for every Version of the Z-machine it claims to interpret.' < 1369599215 695473 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as anyone knows, bwahahaha < 1369599229 738077 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1369599230 992665 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you need a z-machine interpreter in Agda < 1369599237 647906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a proof of its correctness < 1369599251 504264 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's standards, here's reality, and never the twain shall meet < 1369599281 733694 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is Z-machine interpeter in Haskell. < 1369599287 390742 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.239.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369599298 112463 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.239.23 PART :#esoteric < 1369599322 983367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks about the morality of lasering out parts of a chip to sell it for cheaper
< 1369599336 231163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems clear they should be allowed to do it, but would the world be a better place if they didn't < 1369599370 108750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly they think this results in more money coming in, and that money goes to R&D for new chips < 1369599422 795750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it allows big companies and military atom bomb simulators to subsidize cheap computers for the rest of us < 1369599432 834492 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I think i'm pretty much OK with it < 1369599446 508888 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the military still do much atom bomb simulation < 1369599453 163908 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you like crying? http://www.quora.com/What-does-it-feel-like-to-have-your-spouse-die < 1369599458 331661 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they had treaties about that kind of thing < 1369599460 200920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: no < 1369599463 35021 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :( < 1369599464 990255 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well, think about it another way < 1369599467 158551 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION cries instead
< 1369599479 248026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: yes < 1369599485 62899 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get cheap atom chips partly subsidized by gamers who buy 970s < 1369599492 315496 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't even think of it as a moral issue < 1369599501 525916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: they do it more now that they aren't allowed to actually test the damn things < 1369599513 476850 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they didn't bin, they would probably move prices into a smaller range < 1369599538 669910 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, so there were no nuclear detonations between 1998 and 2013? that's kind of nice < 1369599548 374762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about north korea < 1369599549 653245 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, do they still bother developing nukes (what am i saying of course they do) < 1369599559 822265 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's the 2013 < 1369599566 954079 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: the US hasn't introduced a new warhead design in a while, but they're really worried about the old ones falling apart < 1369599575 680866 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone detected fallout from north korea < 1369599587 752296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_Korean_nuclear_tests 2009 and maybe 2006 < 1369599596 337094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yes < 1369599600 914099 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard stories that they'd managed to make a uranium bomb which then fizzled < 1369599607 278232 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw :( < 1369599617 118711 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i thought so? but maybe I can't find the link now < 1369599631 869381 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is impressive because fizzling is generally only an issue with plutonium < 1369599653 825415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made up version 9 and 10 of Z-machine, and written other recommendations and clarifications related to Z-machine, including ones related to interpreter numbers. There are also some things in the document that are clearly mistakes. < 1369599664 513155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how much binning results from intentionally destroying chips vs. yield on subcomponents < 1369599670 606375 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be the 2006 test i guess < 1369599684 471562 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, eight years then, that's... mediocre\ < 1369599695 386043 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since north korea is pretty much isolated from the world, if they keep the radiation in north korea I don't really care < 1369599714 228254 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a bizarre sentiment < 1369599729 772271 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet < 1369599732 703946 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all becomes global soon enough < 1369599734 513304 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare to, say, american nuclear tests < 1369599739 511121 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trade embargos and border controls don't stop fallout < 1369599758 392484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if we are talking about fallout and not just the radiation from the explosion itself) < 1369599945 895556 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also am making the Z-Comp with is a competition for writing Z-machine games. Go to ifMUD, enter apartment 11011, and then go northwest. < 1369600077 935191 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some rules such as: no version 6, no Unicode, no Blorb, no extra sound effects, and you have to make the SHA-1 checksum when posting the file. < 1369600175 39086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a blorb < 1369600188 619243 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a text adventure extentiony format, iirc < 1369600386 882054 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Version 10 can have up to 256K RAM, and up to 2M ROM, so you may be able to have many more objects and text than how much fits in a version 7 or 8 story file. < 1369600462 403570 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a version 10? < 1369600473 55998 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crud, this thing I'm reading only describes up to 8 I think < 1369600500 790972 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, hmm... ifMUD has apartments?I < 1369600504 142704 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm interested no < 1369600505 113106 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :w < 1369600519 401742 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the rent like < 1369600524 47786 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Version 9 and 10 is something I added to the Z-machine standard, as well as other things; see: http://zzo38computer.org/zmachine/z9.txt < 1369600536 519450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: ifmud.org port 4000 to connect < 1369600546 261341 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You don't have to pay rent, you just need an account. < 1369600552 889021 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheap < 1369600555 443244 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the landlord decent < 1369600560 125693 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know M*U*S*H has apartments < 1369600566 844792 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes, I think so. < 1369600603 846023 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coo < 1369600634 847100 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, is ifMUD supposed to only be able interactive fiction? < 1369600660 616285 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Mainly. Not necessarily only. < 1369600764 242263 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tf confuses me < 1369600768 130878 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll try again later < 1369600779 128375 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Transformers? < 1369600816 97274 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tinyfugue < 1369600823 511314 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it's mostly conversational these days? < 1369600831 949744 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminds me of LambdaMOO a bit if so < 1369600832 56290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use nc and it works fine, so see if it works better? < 1369600847 933716 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You use netcat for a mud? < 1369600849 40593 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Mainly, although there are many other things too, you can look around at various things. < 1369600881 779916 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it MUSH based? I think I like the MOO concepts better, from a purely programming perspective < 1369600891 144313 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If ifMUD is anything like M*U*S*H < 1369600906 428823 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes, it works just fine for me, although it might be improve if the input/output are in different colors. < 1369600950 782529 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will learning about Z-machines help at all understanding real machines? < 1369600962 928251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only real machine is the transistor, hth < 1369600974 177695 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I don't know, but ifMUD using JotaCode programming. Your description is allowed to contain a program if you want to (my own description doesn't, although some of my other fields and objects contain programs). < 1369600995 672579 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you want to learn about Real Machines < 1369601007 235684 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own dbref in ifMUD is #20071 (in case you need it for any reason) < 1369601010 336133 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, hmm... < 1369601022 298579 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen JotaCode < 1369601043 562330 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ick, fundamental types < 1369601049 747422 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, probably going to get MUSH < 1369601051 204995 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUSHy < 1369601082 289473 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My plan contains a JotaCode program (although programs don't run in plans, but % substitutions do run in plans). < 1369601088 82243 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION starts reading http://www.plover.net/~davidw/jotatips.html
< 1369601112 916061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@print(@setfield(*player,"plan",@fieldloop("%4","",@replace("%f %v%c","%%","%%%%"))),"OK.") < 1369601113 129779 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1369601125 933975 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :say here < 1369601126 147472 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You say, "#9676" < 1369601147 68422 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, is there some way to get the dbref of the room without saying it outloud? < 1369601164 841734 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Yes. Type "examine here", or "ex here" if you have an account. < 1369601197 375978 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1369601202 996682 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....why 'if I have an account'? Are guests unable to examine < 1369601203 564683 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1369601207 40101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many of my own objects (including myself) are set examinable, so you can see codes that way. < 1369601217 944988 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: No, guests cannot abbreviate. < 1369601230 480176 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a weird restriction... < 1369601284 858251 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In LambdaMOO, if you want to write code, you need to get a programmer's bit. It's easy to get one automatically by asking an NPC butler, but it's still a thing you have to do < 1369601312 41254 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If ifMUD you automatically get it just by having an account. < 1369601356 998173 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since all accounts have it and guests don't, Z-Comp uses it to prevent guests from entering and voting (although guests can still view it). < 1369601743 321372 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.143.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why no unicode? < 1369601758 946883 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369601793 310422 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.143.211 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369601877 382424 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Because this Z-Comp is ZSCII only. < 1369602093 44177 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369602121 556887 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1369602144 609348 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369602188 640437 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kinda want to learn how to make Minecraft mods < 1369602198 812209 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I have a worrying feeling that that involves learning Java < 1369602209 5996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java's fine < 1369602215 104595 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you already know Java < 1369602217 345408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's not fun to write < 1369602226 976075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the language is pretty simple and reasonable, there isn't a lot of crazy bullshit to learn < 1369602247 411979 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The libraries more than make up for that... < 1369602250 51101 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, since when do I know Java? < 1369602264 517932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I suppose some of the libraries are crazy bullshit... < 1369602320 40365 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.119.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: my mistake. I thought you already knew Java. < 1369602325 816710 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many libraries do you need for minecraft < 1369602336 197237 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, possibly LWJGL < 1369602365 113302 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you probably need the standard libraries < 1369602474 81396 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the question is, should I learn Java? < 1369602486 540208 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, sure. < 1369602503 399672 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :put it on your resume. learn javabeans < 1369602513 788760 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should learn mining < 1369602549 934 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "close to the metal" as they say < 1369602570 909667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1369602576 712880 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1369602583 48454 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"psh, you learn assembly? that's not close enough to the ore" i say, coughing coal dust in your face < 1369602640 983139 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coal isn't a metal, you poser < 1369602663 610393 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an old lead mine near here < 1369602729 804594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Mines are supposed to be *below* ground, I’d thought,” Jones continued. < 1369602729 876561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Aren’t you a graduate of the Colorado School of Mines?” Zula asked. < 1369602729 876734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jones, for once, looked a bit sheepish. “They should probably change the name. It’s not just about that. I only went there to learn how to blow things up. I don’t know squat about mines really.” < 1369602765 82149 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a guy who attended that school! i should ask him about destroying things < 1369602806 835247 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, is Reamde good? < 1369602830 991664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i had fun reading it, it consumed most of my free time from beginning to end < 1369602864 612455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said it's more of a straightforward techno-thriller a la Clancy, rather than the trademark Stephenson meandering world-building < 1369602919 964501 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what to think of stephenson now that i've realized "he's serious", so to speak < 1369602925 299841 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1369602932 875829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well Snow Crash isn't a very serious book < 1369602951 593056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely a send-up of 80s cyberpunk, even as it embraces the awesomeness of the genre < 1369602988 777401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, what do you mean by that exactly < 1369603026 87427 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well uh, have you read in the beginning was the command line < 1369603035 435779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no / not in a long time < 1369603059 445262 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he like divides society into people who know what they're doing and people who just go along with it < 1369603089 94028 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like recent pratchett < 1369603091 863537 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and well i'm not really sure what to think of the views of society in his books ay more < 1369603095 101863 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :any* < 1369603105 965744 :rashni!~rashni@199-255-213-186.anchorfree.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1369603113 96511 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :course. i haven't read an actual novel in over a year, anyway < 1369603136 775984 :rashni!~rashni@199-255-213-186.anchorfree.com PART :#esoteric < 1369603137 35506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never got a strong sense that he's preaching about How Society Really Works in any of his books < 1369603146 972666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Diamond Age a bit < 1369603152 975443 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that how society really works < 1369603169 667137 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's also the people who only think they know < 1369603195 853465 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nuanced and realistic analysis of society and policy < 1369603298 979962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pigs, dogs, and sheep < 1369603351 305738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha, charade you are < 1369603756 816957 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any languages designed to compile into Z-machine code? < 1369603767 685013 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could Haskell be made to compile into Z-machine code? < 1369603797 925164 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: There is ZIL and Inform, and I am working on writing Berzio. < 1369603810 666343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you start down the zzo38 path, forever will it dominate your destiny < 1369603815 219058 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose a Haskell library could be made to represent Z-machine code and then compile it into a Z-machine story file. < 1369603828 906300 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Z monad? < 1369603846 138671 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I think my mind wants to abuse the Writer monad all the time < 1369603850 535089 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Using monads and/or whatever, I suppose < 1369603917 798301 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking, use Typeable to represent global variables, routines, objects, etc and then use SSA or something like that, and use ContT monad to make up some monad to make a Z-machine code, and then use datatypes which are compile into a Z-machine story file or assembly language. < 1369603924 853773 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: http://imgur.com/4GoXLSB did you get to this part in The Tangled Web yet? i'm thinking about this attack and I think I understand what's going on < 1369603950 754474 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inform has various restrictions, so some others might be better for many things. < 1369603950 826427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty tricky < 1369603952 534714 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Each object in the tree may have a parent, a sibling and a child. " < 1369603967 946694 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only one child? Maybe just one pointer to a child? < 1369603984 938493 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: It means the first child. It is the number of the child, not the address. < 1369604014 899208 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, yes < 1369604028 258596 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-53-193.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369604039 681575 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can set a cookie to secure, but you can't say 'for this domain, only accept secure cookies' < 1369604067 779623 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-53-193.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1369604069 416750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1369604074 646206 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hmm, says you'd need to 'overflow the cookie jar' < 1369604075 344070 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1369604080 837984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HSTS might mitigate this though < 1369604085 360020 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-53-193.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369604085 466338 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-85-197.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1369604089 427520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you need to overflow the cookie jar though < 1369604132 757379 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-53-193.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1369604141 37055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking about an attacker who has a network MITM capability and also controls a malicious site (well, they can get that using the MITM too, but irrelevant) < 1369604174 188624 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, http://www.gnelson.demon.co.uk/zspec/overview.html < 1369604190 506511 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that example object tree, would "small mailbox" have a parent? < 1369604196 175070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the malicious site makes an unencrypted request to the target site, it doesn't even matter if that server listens on port 80 because the attacker MITMs the request and responds with a Set-Cookie header setting the CSRF token cookie < 1369604202 263185 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even those West of House's child is you, and not small mailbox? < 1369604247 118824 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, what if a secure cookie is already set, how would the browser respond in that case if you didn't overflow the jar, I think is the question < 1369604248 210380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they can construct a proper request forgery to the real HTTPS site including the correct token < 1369604260 731291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: doesn't a new Set-Cookie of the same name overwrite the old one? < 1369604275 190910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it might refuse to overwrite a secure cookie with a non-secure one, yeah < 1369604297 207578 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I thought so, but the fact that that texts suggests overflowing the cookie jar first... < 1369604301 8155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369604313 96125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does HSTS mitigate this attack < 1369604333 82056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it prevent making unencrypted requests at all, or does it just translate when the user types foo.com to https://foo.com < 1369604410 371756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Yes. The location's first child is the player, although the mailbox is one of its children too. < 1369604426 751242 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also assemblers of Z-machine, such as ZAP and Frolg. < 1369604439 498499 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z-machine can also be programmed in C and in Forth. < 1369604458 808153 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about Factor? :D < 1369604524 915643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. < 1369604530 97766 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting to enjoy Factor < 1369604551 162480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think a Haskell library to represent Z-machine codes would be good to have, though. < 1369604737 414403 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, if a game doesn't want to use static memory, is that possible to not have any? < 1369604767 381157 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I guess you could have $0e point to where the end of static memory would e < 1369604837 970151 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Yes, the static memory is not necessary; dynamic memory acts the same anyways (except that it is also writable, storable in save data, etc) < 1369604887 519395 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :16-bit addresses. Kind of sucks < 1369604904 326086 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I have to keep the historical context in mind < 1369604914 336101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also packed addresses though. < 1369604939 929607 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't get up to reading what those are yet < 1369604941 420569 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Object property tables, dictionary tables, etc don't use packed addresses, however. < 1369604999 378306 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, my own version 9 and 10 addresses for property table and dictionary table are half and quarter of the actual address, allowing you to have up to 256K RAM. < 1369605036 843941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, as far as I know, the only interpreter so far that support version 9 and 10 is my own interpreter, called "Fweep". < 1369605130 327120 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note that the total of dynamic plus static memory must not exceed 64K. (In fact, 64K minus 2 bytes.) This is the most serious limitation on the Z-machine (though it has not yet been reached by anyone)." < 1369605138 85208 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet been reached by anyone? o.O < 1369605164 277842 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :64k is a lot of text innit < 1369605170 30682 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it has almost been reached, by now. < 1369605209 473719 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: The text is normally stored in ROM, though; the RAM is limited to 64K and that stores object headers, property tables, dictionary tables, and a few other things. < 1369605234 297053 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I thought that static memory was the ROM? < 1369605246 313615 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that 64k was RAM+ROM? < 1369605273 730453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: High memory is also the ROM, although it may actually be stored on disk rather than ROM in some interpreters, it is actually ROM. < 1369605418 684275 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'It is dangerous to rely on the ANSI C random number routines, as some implementations of these are very poor. This has made some games (in particular, 'Balances') unwinnable on some Unix ports of Zip.' < 1369605436 488485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1369605479 686437 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Z-machine text is a sequence of ZSCII character codes (ZSCII is a system similar to ASCII: see S 3.8 below). ' < 1369605526 428563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: There is already a Z-machine implementation in Haskell. < 1369605526 812027 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z-characters are 5 bits < 1369605548 334349 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, there is Z-machine interpreter already, but I meant compiler < 1369605549 514135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once fixed it up to work with modern GHC but never ended up getting the changes merged. < 1369605662 790758 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if ZSCII is more compact than ASCII for plain English text
< 1369605699 613679 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :5-bit characters. Getting to uppercase characters is done with a special character that shifts the alphabet for the next character. < 1369605703 767558 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Z-character is different from ZSCII, Z-character is 5-bits coding, ZSCII is 8-bits. It is more compact, it is why it is used. < 1369605705 121540 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Same with symbols) < 1369605781 631815 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I suspect ALL CAPS-LOCKED TEXT WOULD NOT BE MORE EFFICIENT IN ZSCII THAN ASCII FOR VERSIONS GREATER THAN TWO < 1369605805 756145 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Yes, that is true (unless you set up the alphabet table for all-caps) < 1369605886 142914 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modifying the alphabet table at runtime is possible (so is repointing property tables, and other unusual things), but as far as I know no existing games use that. < 1369605947 868095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modify the alphabet at runtime to add a CAPS LOCK codepoint. < 1369605952 558581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1369605963 537267 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you encode 3 Z-characters in ZSCII? < 1369605971 224298 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, wait < 1369605982 421155 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you encode 4 Z-characters in ZSCII? < 1369606017 494473 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZSCII is a 8-bit encoding it isn't the same as Z-characters. Z-characters is encoded using three in one 16-bit word; you need more than one if you want more than 3 Z-characters. < 1369606149 314323 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how do you specify that one or two of the Z-characters in 2 bytes are unused? < 1369606165 910689 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can put extra shifts and shiftlocks in them. < 1369606188 388251 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if you shift a shift? < 1369606199 811409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: having fun? < 1369606204 599292 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but if you put them only at the end it doesn't matter. < 1369606206 21538 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'In Versions 3 and later, the current alphabet is always A0 unless changed for 1 character only: Z-characters 4 and 5 are shift characters. Thus 4 means "the next character is in A1" and 5 means "the next is in A2". There are no shift lock characters.' < 1369606206 440554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1369606224 329749 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does 4 even mean that if the previous character was a shift? < 1369606230 993392 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you think what I said in ##crypto was fairly reasonable? < 1369606277 268320 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: It is unclear; I don't think it is defined, but either way it won't print anything at the end of the Z-characters text, regardless of the state. < 1369606285 892047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only read the last page or so but it seemed reasonable to me. < 1369606337 188413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This person also says that the worst bug they've ever had in a Haskell program took 15 minutes to fix, or something along those lines. < 1369606393 396383 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369606397 633275 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z-machine code as a way of compressing English text... only output opcodes allowed... < 1369606400 124049 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea, bad idea? < 1369606419 967472 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1369606429 673280 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, even just using the text encoding stuff would be a win, possibly especially with abbreviations < 1369606442 149655 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all ideas are good aren't they? < 1369606462 238565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the worst bug I've ever had in a Haskell program took about 2 weeks (on and off) to find < 1369606469 811670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was some subtle math error in a 3D renderer < 1369606486 958911 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Well, it does work; Z-characters is a OK way to compress English text slightly, in a simple way. < 1369606488 535505 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much impossible for a language to prevent that, I think < 1369606518 209064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with theorem proving, you are just as likely to make that error when you teach the computer the axioms of optics < 1369606527 534149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a lot more likely because it will be a lot more code < 1369606547 130863 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you also have to program in the correct kind of logic into the computer? < 1369606548 321151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Haskell but I don't think it's a panacea. < 1369606557 487104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, me too < 1369606563 8297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, same to me < 1369606606 962383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at some point saying "Well, you can write high-performance Haskell code with many years of careful study and huge effort invested into every project" is sort of not a very good endorsement < 1369606637 653811 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1369606682 587774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC Haskell performance is great for most projects, certainly for anything where people typically use Python or Ruby or whatever < 1369606725 717667 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think you are correct, isn't very good in that case, but it is OK for some thing and is OK to make things in the mathematical way done by Haskell programs, even though it might be too large, too slow (if not sufficiently optimized), etc < 1369606733 123474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm skeptical of the cases where you introduce a huge amount of ugly and unsafe and compiler-specific and brittle code in order to get acceptable performance < 1369606744 50410 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, do a lot of games use custom alphabet tables? < 1369606746 639655 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i too think some things are good and other things are bad" < 1369606761 722319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's like a core library that's going to be used by a lot of high level idiomatic Haskell code < 1369606791 7431 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: a while back i saw somebody working on some set of benchmarks with CL by writing in a bunch of inline asm and like what's the damn point < 1369606837 609134 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: As far as I know the only one is the German translation of Zork, but I think it could be used in order to modify at runtime to make one part of game type out everything in all-caps or to make all input/output to be ROT13 in one location, or whatever < 1369606896 623804 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should try Zork at some point < 1369606900 438769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah. the ATS examples in the Shootout are like that as well, iirc < 1369606912 332106 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'The character set of the Z-machine is called ZSCII (Zork Standard Code for Information Interchange; pronounced to rhyme with "xyzzy")' < 1369606921 520515 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATS? < 1369606923 285770 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: on the other hand you'd produce the first 3D renderer to have any kind of proof associated with it < 1369606925 161120 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an incredibly helpful pronunciation guide < 1369606938 230005 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the american thoracic society < 1369606943 735482 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ats-lang.org/ < 1369606944 698363 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Applied Type System"? < 1369606957 559488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.ats-lang.org/ it's, uh, a dependently typed systems language? i can't figure out what it is really because the docs are beyond unreadable < 1369606974 936274 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good < 1369606994 31292 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the front page says it has pointer arithmetic but they used asm too huh < 1369606997 264992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote kmc tutorial < 1369606997 751840 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc says: i started to read the "tutorial" and it was incomprehensible. makes the Gentle Introduction to Haskell look like Teach Yourself PHP in 24 Hours < 1369607014 737628 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i got a pimple just from reading that, it's so dorky < 1369607042 457347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1369607048 920997 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like they've changed the site though? < 1369607054 494587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the tutorial is new and improved < 1369607140 159324 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In practice the text compression factor is not really very good: for instance, 155000 characters of text squashes into 99000 bytes. (Text usually accounts for about 75\% of a story file.) Encoding does at least encrypt the text so that casual browsers can't read it. Well-chosen abbreviations will reduce total story file size by 10\% or so." < 1369607355 291078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Yes, it isn't particularly good, but it is a simple way that works for this purpose. < 1369607403 345564 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crazy idea, hooking up a Z-machine interpreter to PSOX < 1369607444 374309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are various other things I can think of to reduce file size and do other things, although I don't know if any compilers do many of these things. < 1369607458 270114 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I guess Z-machine interpreters don't use stdio in a typical way < 1369607522 710886 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: It might be done by adding an extra input/output stream for PSOX, although yes it is crazy < 1369607531 322789 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369607892 512032 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "warning: pointer type mismatch in conditional expression" mean? < 1369607935 555183 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-193.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369607935 697600 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I figured it out < 1369608036 18982 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369608652 996907 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369608828 178100 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.238.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369608862 719258 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.238.16 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1369608867 965132 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-112.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome elieser224 < 1369608875 564646 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :elieser224: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1369608916 746477 :elieser224!~elieser22@190.121.238.16 PART :#esoteric < 1369609011 901377 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other kind of esoteric? < 1369609038 261097 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369609214 939820 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a variety of thoughts that I wouldn't express outloud, yet I don't class as 'intrusive', and ... I haven't expressed them outloud < 1369609227 443874 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why am I so scared that I'll end up saying this one intrusive thought outloud < 1369609267 640627 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm scared that somewhere deep down I agree with it, even though I hope that I don't < 1369609300 141563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PM it to fungot < 1369609300 545185 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but it's a very interesting idea < 1369609336 661882 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie can't read messages sent to fungot right? < 1369609337 126295 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: hehe psykotic :) as long as it's legal to own property there, without being asked to do all this before? < 1369609387 474886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1369609387 584934 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1369609395 447453 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I type it to fungot, what if it opens the gates for me saying it again in the future < 1369609396 209771 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: so dashboard comes up a lot of work to write. do you know of extra documentation it'd be great to test dynamic loading too if you want < 1369609401 437756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1369609401 636707 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1369609595 66167 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I typed it into a text editor, then backspaced over it < 1369609714 521550 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the local factory is on fire < 1369609855 363697 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1369609856 445727 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-197-71.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369609967 618511 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the strongest intrusive thoughts I had as a kid was the number "666", which I felt I had to counter by thinking "777"... but the big reason that intrusive thought doesn't bother me anymore is because I see nothing wrong with the number 666. That seems like a bad way to resolve this particular thought < 1369610105 250587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I can read the last few of them. < 1369610132 40678 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1369610134 891320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It echoes the raw IRC input, but doesn't log anything, so it's up to screen window scrollback.) < 1369610325 667319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mostly as a debugging tool.) < 1369610979 77944 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369611261 469795 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369611285 96682 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369611789 749371 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.239.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369611804 761593 :elieser2241!~elieser22@190.121.239.5 PART :#esoteric