< 1369353815 812667 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1369355574 683124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know "awry" is pronounced like "a-wry" and not like "awe-ri"........................... < 1369355582 623759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes it the worst word of all words < 1369355604 400556 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1369355607 933005 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was awe-ri < 1369355627 503505 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same way everyone says eesoteric rather than essoteric < 1369355638 393191 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: uh I say essoteric < 1369355649 173125 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you i don't do what you tell me *guitar* < 1369355661 545803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i say ezoteric < 1369355670 593567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you telling me it's not pronounced 'z'...... < 1369355683 974626 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, but is it a gittar or a geetar < 1369355760 163323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: where did you get the guitar from < 1369355769 511630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered a mandolin instead < 1369355772 603174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"better than guitars" < 1369355789 533375 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The h in hesoteric is silent. < 1369355795 334198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa dude Bike is twitterizing now < 1369355805 546166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you should follow me hth < 1369355811 13555 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stalk thing's getting weird you know < 1369355819 582202 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well "getting" < 1369355827 243964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/Bike < 1369355831 873176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1369355842 513259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that person is beating me by an order of magnitude :'( < 1369355843 974040 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bike < 1369355844 253347 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: bid dice time wiki < 1369355848 614006 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369355855 315278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is bike on twitter < 1369355874 453222 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369355880 513181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll surely find out by watching my "following" list < 1369355913 714014 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Bike is already following kmc. < 1369355928 84878 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitter says you're not following anybody. < 1369355940 663930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twitter is wrong. < 1369355950 93528 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1369355965 404058 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, assuming you're @shachaf < 1369355965 923623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope but I found Nathan von Doom < 1369355981 613395 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good name < 1369355988 643341 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm @mnxmnkmnd, mostly been complaining about darwin < 1369355990 223336 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far < 1369355995 583632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i look at twitter.com/copumpkin almost every day!! < 1369356006 663872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin is just that good hth < 1369356068 783890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: darwin more like darlose isntthatso < 1369356080 413741 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369356189 411480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what does tqbf mean < 1369356215 3767 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :godWIN the discussion < 1369356231 263722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know < 1369356238 5183 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369356246 273973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it an abbreviation for tqbfjotld < 1369356270 383942 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tqbf is one of the Matasano founders < 1369356270 653198 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1369356281 63493 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1369356287 165693 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck I thought I put a ZWNJ at the start of that message < 1369356290 429696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: eff you < 1369356291 193537 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i've had maybe 3 twitter accounts < 1369356294 833630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe mosh ate it or something < 1369356295 623932 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and about that many tweets < 1369356309 943925 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tqbf < 1369356310 213675 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1369356314 613948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god < 1369356344 612829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1369356344 894140 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1369356362 784389 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help tqbf < 1369356363 123931 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1369356368 876193 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1369356372 443862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I meant where his nick came from. < 1369356377 453871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows. < 1369356388 704878 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369356405 845914 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: ? < 1369356406 124471 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: . ? @ activity activity-full admin all-dicts arr ask b52s babel bf bid botsnack brain bug check choice-add choose clear-messages compose devils dice dict dict-help djinn djinn-add < 1369356406 324283 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :djinn-clr djinn-del djinn-env djinn-names djinn-ver do docs dummy easton echo elements elite eval fact fact-cons fact-delete fact-set fact-snoc fact-update faq farber flush foldoc forget fortune < 1369356406 324446 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fptools free freshname ft gazetteer get-shapr ghc girl19 google googleit gsite gwiki hackage help hitchcock hoogle hoogle+ id ignore index instances instances-importing irc-connect jargon join karma < 1369356406 324616 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma+ karma- karma-all keal kind learn leave let list listall listchans listmodules listservers localtime localtime-reply lojban map messages messages? more msg nazi-off nazi-on nixon oeis offline < 1369356406 324722 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oldwiki palomer part paste ping pl pl-resume pointful pointless pointy poll-add poll-close poll-list poll-remove poll-result poll-show pretty print-notices protontorpedo purge-notices quit quote rc < 1369356408 104194 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :read reconnect remember repoint run shootout show slap smack source spell spell-all src tell thank you thanks thx ticker time todo todo-add todo-delete topic-cons topic-init topic-null topic-snoc < 1369356410 53940 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :topic-tail topic-tell type undefine undo unlambda unmtl unpf unpl unpointless uptime url v vera version vote web1913 what where where+ wiki wn world02 yarr yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw yow < 1369356534 931527 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369356816 494086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When people say "the password is hashed N000000 times" without clarifying I like to pretend they mean "for (i : Range(1, N000000)) { res = hash(password); }" < 1369356848 539837 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1369356867 405878 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly hash :: IO Hash < 1369356892 524099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was pseudo-C++, not pseudo-Haskell. < 1369356918 97166 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, it's not syntactically valid haskell < 1369356992 664484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's syntactically valid C++ but probably not good C++. < 1369356998 634458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you do the Range thing in C++11? < 1369357017 980422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess for (const auto &i : Range(1, ...)) { ... } < 1369357021 784446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that. < 1369357043 345171 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that, yeah < 1369357061 774193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you need the type paramater? sometimes they can be inferred < 1369357087 974021 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it actually syntactically valid C++ < 1369357091 435072 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(i :" looks dubious < 1369357098 705152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++11 < 1369357107 354399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you don't need it. < 1369357116 559296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if you specify the type on the left side. < 1369357129 14703 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't we all know what you meant anyway < 1369357148 44347 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Surely if you omit the type on the left it infers int? < 1369357195 654556 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need const or & there < 1369357212 583898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I want it! < 1369357222 119804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that it matters much. < 1369357228 357333 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for (auto i : Range(1, ...)) { } < 1369357246 124361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But i is const. :-( < 1369357253 229227 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares < 1369357433 905287 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1369357495 454858 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beginning_Was_the_End < 1369357692 322763 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'The book was influential on new wave band Devo, with the founding members noting the connection between its subject matter and the concept of "de-evolution" which is central to the band's message. Bassist/synth player/vocalist Gerald V. Casale claimed, "It's a better story than the Bible as far as DEVO's concerned."[20]' < 1369357719 234438 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...does DEVO actually... believe it, or just consider it a fascinating fiction story? < 1369357749 575009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You should go to Haskell eXchange 2013! < 1369357778 804993 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know where that is < 1369357806 312183 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have confused DEVO with ... that band that is similar to the group that did I My Me Mine < 1369357828 514674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: London < 1369357830 825636 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: i guess they're into "kitsch science fiction" < 1369357839 254772 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polysics, which came after.... Devo... < 1369357843 439333 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same Devo or different? < 1369357861 985553 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same devo < 1369357864 545646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: £75 for the first 25 tickets! < 1369357869 667257 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1369357980 744495 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm unsure as to the confusion here < 1369357991 788973 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :confuséd < 1369358067 434615 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :confusèd actually < 1369358092 875455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :confusēd < 1369358113 875252 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never remember which way around the accent goes for the shakespearian type < 1369358115 55415 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :c̈ön̈f̈üs̈ëd̈ < 1369358123 985032 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good diaereses < 1369358125 304854 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1369358134 484912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmccann-style < 1369358143 245324 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's a grave accent if you're being shake spear ian < 1369358159 565795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1369358226 504834 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip. < 1369358262 465703 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We'll work on encrypting the cookie value. There should be a solution that will work without troubling the 100 thousand or so "legacy" accounts." < 1369358287 950687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: why are you making everyone in this channel miserable < 1369358297 735742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was perfectly happy before you started talking about tvtropes < 1369358297 976212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :harsh < 1369358301 534939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now look where i am < 1369358317 915184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well it's not actually that interesting but if you want a range(1, 10) for C++ then you can use this one i just wrote https://gist.github.com/kmcallister/5640703 < 1369358322 24162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this is probably in some library anywya < 1369358329 64049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Hey, I wrote one too! < 1369358350 275536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :omgnoway < 1369358353 655243 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the shortest way to write [1..10] in c++ < 1369358365 264904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://slbkbs.org/ir.txt < 1369358372 985741 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also implement syntax "1..10"_r < 1369358375 145241 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy huh < 1369358380 290386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started on that but ran out of fucks < 1369358395 784102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : void operator++() { ++cur_; } < 1369358396 284859 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : void operator++(int) { cur_--; } < 1369358397 465122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1369358397 747084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really shachaf < 1369358400 785163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1369358403 983702 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369358406 848355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you bad man < 1369358413 716326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't quite remember the motivation for that............... < 1369358420 605465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :was there motivation or is it a bug < 1369358433 885558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one is prefix ++ and the other is postfix ++ (don't remember which) < 1369358438 367327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1369358456 676099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the one without (int) is prefix because the code worked, I think? < 1369358502 70682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mnemonic is going to be that postfix is supposed to be less efficient and passing in an extra int argument is obviously less efficient. < 1369358504 995212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1369358526 868225 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c_c < 1369358533 375687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the value of the int argument specified < 1369358538 425144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. < 1369358541 688038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe it's passed on the stack. < 1369358602 236239 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a hack < 1369358645 76813 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1369358674 216635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this code work for iter(UINT_MIN, UINT_MAX)? < 1369358699 386040 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369358703 325670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just going to leave that -- in there. < 1369358725 805836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can trip someone up if they ever make the mistake of trying to use my code. < 1369359021 819291 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369359533 256998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION forks and fixes
< 1369359538 467619 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :An elegant, modern ir.txt, done right < 1369359565 957030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :celebrates craftswhiteship? < 1369359569 395706 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :celebrates artisanship (!!!!!) < 1369359584 16544 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369359601 475553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrt gendered language i actually have less of a problem with 'craftsmanship' because it's an abstract concept < 1369359604 525798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still not toally ideal < 1369359621 176027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is that a kind of cheese < 1369359626 876240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do have a problem with it being faddish and arguably meaningless < 1369359635 935941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a kind of boat < 1369359637 996415 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if only < 1369359653 426241 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is it really "arguably"? how is it anything more than marketing < 1369359660 540559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :describing programmers as craftsppl is at least more accurate than describing us as ninjas or painters < 1369359674 726751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, everyone's voting for my GHC proposal. < 1369359676 356007 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rock musicians < 1369359698 686126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey you know what's good, answer: prokofiev < 1369359715 976743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact "craft" is a pretty good compromise that admits the presence of aesthetic concerns while keeping the focus on practical utility < 1369359716 255885 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION instantly gets "Dance of the Knights" playing in his head
< 1369359759 149011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: more like crapft < 1369359762 588166 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b/c programming sucks < 1369359766 306716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1369359768 565931 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cruftsmanship < 1369359784 25592 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crapsmith < 1369359790 405580 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait it's poopsmith isn't it < 1369359808 805562 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Poopsmith. < 1369359827 845659 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He deals in Whatsit. < 1369359879 363261 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why I thought OpenPandora would be cheap < 1369359937 967733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dance of the Bikes < 1369359949 706312 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd watch that opera < 1369359989 645673 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be Alexander Nevsky but with bikes instead of horses. yes, hell yes < 1369360190 836692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i'd watch that hth < 1369360198 76987 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you would < 1369360250 996343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's your GHC proposal < 1369360277 700502 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf;'s marrying ghc < 1369360304 589371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg congratulations!! < 1369360322 470440 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should get "Battle of the Ice" stuck in my head instead of knights < 1369360329 454101 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on < 1369360331 172391 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :w/e. < 1369360352 656529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/7633 < 1369360422 321403 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's a bit ad hoc, but probably a jolly useful feature. Nothing technically hard about implementing it. If anyone wants to have a go, I'm happy to advise" he's not actually british right < 1369360472 933260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you telling me this man is not british http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Simon_Peyton_Jones_01.jpg < 1369360503 417474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he looks like wallace (of & gromit) < 1369360511 915592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was born in .za though < 1369360523 887311 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a crazy photo < 1369360543 116762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like Lemming's alternative proposal < 1369360544 218745 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still trying to understand how lenses work < 1369360547 116368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : {-# MINIMAL return AND (join OR (>>=)) #-} < 1369360548 437048 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a crazy man < 1369360554 687005 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you give a lens return or pure, what happens? < 1369360577 896684 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think some kind of and/or based thing could be good because that's how they're written in haddocks < 1369360589 116538 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ideally haddock should parse these and format like that < 1369360590 827741 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems needlessly complex. the original is just as expressive, it's just in DNF with simpler syntax < 1369360614 457026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously haddock should have a subroutine to generate minimal English descriptions of DNF formulæ!!! < 1369360617 146320 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A OR B) AND (C OR D) < 1369360618 297015 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right but if that form is what people write already and what we want our tools to display regardless, then you don't save much by doing it the simpler way < 1369360618 499145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like his syntax much either. I'm not sure that my original syntax is optimal, though. < 1369360629 77025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure it's not optimal shachaf ;) < 1369360630 286307 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like the concrete syntax of his proposal though of course < 1369360630 744239 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :few things are < 1369360643 617372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i meant "optimal enough" hth < 1369360655 207503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: obv it should be return ^ (join v (>>=)) < 1369360657 887025 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds slightly bikesheddy < 1369360658 656528 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that could be expressed < 1369360665 716728 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: 'slightly' < 1369360667 126348 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: return /\ (join \/ (>>=)) < 1369360672 436402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: return * (join + (>>=)) < 1369360674 820789 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A,C A,D B,C B,D < 1369360677 816379 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's verbose < 1369360685 577916 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if there are classes that would benefit < 1369360688 696798 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :{-# MINIMAL COMPLETE DEFINITION: return and either join or (>>=). #-} < 1369360693 826725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you shuould draw an ascii art truth table < 1369360701 226438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shuould: word of 2013?? < 1369360728 466548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A handcrafted IRC client] < 1369360733 196342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that even mean < 1369360741 687047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it celebrates craftsmanship < 1369360749 637325 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :has a little /celebrate command < 1369360762 770114 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly it's hand-made. They rewrite the entire thing for each user. < 1369360788 91937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like do they think it means anything < 1369360789 987903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a joke < 1369360793 113080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm at a loss here people < 1369360809 408154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it when people say "handpicked". < 1369360810 756482 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Designed to be used easily and freely. < 1369360816 716802 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's like some kind of cutesy tongue in cheek bullshit < 1369360821 276572 :Sgeo|kiwi!ad34ea6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/x-muxemaugguxtzhpv JOIN :#esoteric < 1369360821 534730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "a handpicked collection of short stories" or something. < 1369360823 67060 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which shows you're v. indie < 1369360826 36750 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fucking shit Sgeo|kiwi < 1369360835 7669 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :✔ No PhD required < 1369360843 927877 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1369360850 647524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1369360864 309157 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried the slap function. Kiwi seems to indicate that I ACTIONed something' < 1369360865 677018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously they mean "not written in haskell" < 1369360881 876837 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/set var_name new_value command to modify settings < 1369360882 927069 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeolkivich < 1369360891 116818 :Sgeo|kiwi!ad34ea6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/x-muxemaugguxtzhpv PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Sgeo|kiwi slaps elliott around a bit with a large trout  < 1369360891 316019 :Sgeo|kiwi!ad34ea6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/x-muxemaugguxtzhpv PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Sgeo|kiwi slaps elliott around a bit with a large trout < 1369360901 446829 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like it's really the 90s < 1369360903 434185 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, meant to paste once < 1369360908 957631 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, but it never actually DID that < 1369360912 177002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dream of the 90s is alive in kiwiirc < 1369360912 856969 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kiwi is lying to me < 1369360924 936698 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sexy channel list" when i am world dictator programmers will be banned from calling things sexy. anything whatsoever. it is the burden you accept when becoming a programmer < 1369360931 529668 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love it when my software lies to me! < 1369360935 577299 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you kmc i don't want it stuck in my head again < 1369360942 596901 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: celibate channel list? < 1369360943 476911 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: well let's be fair, the trout thing is obnoxious as hell < 1369360962 747380 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then why even pretend to support it? < 1369360970 196486 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make fun of you < 1369361044 16907 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey it's open-source < 1369361052 176647 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me go see if I can find any details about this < 1369361059 596462 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about this hand craftedness < 1369361086 527408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: things stick in your head eaisly.......................... < 1369361091 157430 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they make their software by hand, not like those faceless corporations with their software machines < 1369361103 454444 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i get music stuck in my head really easily yeah < 1369361117 457610 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i kind of want an irc client that was written by simulated annealing or something, now < 1369361124 766876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we decide what goes inside your head < 1369361148 676891 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHCp2-YcBeU < 1369361177 57427 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :phosphene dream, heh < 1369361192 987034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also released an EP named Phosgene Nightmare < 1369361215 626736 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that fertilizer or nerve gas? < 1369361236 237077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a chemical weapon, not technically nerve gas I think < 1369361258 387176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Phosgene_poster_ww2.jpg < 1369361266 537179 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i want to listen to some classic fucked up shit < 1369361276 437138 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for some throbbing gristle i think < 1369361299 256941 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: dumbo's lookin' pretty kinky there < 1369361301 77884 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Toxic phosgene doses (greater than or equal to 30 ppm X min) inhaled into the terminal respiratory passages render the blood-air-barrier more permeable to blood plasma, which gradually collects in the lung." < 1369361304 848497 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think I am getting a bit of an "increased dopey feeling" from listening to this < 1369361305 47943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1369361308 830219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically you drown in your own blood < 1369361335 697266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that better or worse than drowning in someone else's blood < 1369361385 217880 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haaaamburger laaaaady < 1369361586 168997 :Sgeo|kiwi!ad34ea6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/x-muxemaugguxtzhpv QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1369361587 637370 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imo your name is Keegan Miuaf Callister < 1369361592 787572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1369361607 517347 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cracked the code < 1369361618 987492 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :miuaf is the sound a high cat makes, imo < 1369361656 307538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :miuchaf < 1369361689 98174 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :main is usually shachaf < 1369362178 558465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how do i get less bitter < 1369362223 967776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hugs? < 1369362254 596390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could help < 1369362262 448154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean about something specific < 1369362263 677949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i get a lot of hugs as is < 1369362309 777392 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1369362415 267802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's more bitter, shachaf or kmc? < 1369362453 383412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well right now i'm bitter about getting fired from my web startup job, and the fact that either the stated reasons are bullshit, or they completely failed at communicating with me while i worked there < 1369362491 733955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are people who I thought were friends and good people and now I'm so angry that I can't sleep properly and probably want to never talk to them again < 1369362526 27481 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. afaict, gzip does in fact have an option for saying "This is uncompressed" < 1369362686 958122 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sounds like kmc is bittrer < 1369362791 827893 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that situation it's normal < 1369362799 878592 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.webvisionsevent.com/portland/session/build-your-brand-the-rock-star-way-y4p0/ i'm thinking i don't want to attend this < 1369362812 898270 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.webvisionsevent.com/slides/portland/pix/trammell.jpg < 1369362893 691938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't really understand this well enough to make fun of it < 1369362908 447978 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, fluidsynth is claiming chorium has invalid generators < 1369362920 68345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen. < 1369362957 588244 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if Titanic is good
< 1369362964 458140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i realize it's normal to be bitter in this situation, but i would still like to learn how to become less bitter over time < 1369362974 857915 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait until you forget about it? < 1369362989 100587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be a while < 1369363066 682653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you automatically become less angry about things unless you put effort into staying angry, most of the time < 1369363071 708099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least i do?? < 1369363072 768614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i am getting a new job and moving to a new city far away from here < 1369363075 638041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that should help < 1369363082 828129 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor, fluidsynth is claiming chorium has invalid generators // Yup. < 1369363092 347171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would rather be able to stay friends with these people < 1369363102 88070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it just ain't gonna happen, though < 1369363108 308067 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: You need to stop worrying and love the bomb. < 1369363115 618051 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does sound pretty crappy on their part < 1369363123 127931 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe you'll feel differently in a while, it's hard to say < 1369363128 618789 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, have you tried Titanic? Is it good? I'm getting it from the same site that has Chorium < 1369363133 498770 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I think they just fired me because I was unhappy, which I was, and I'm glad to be done with working there because it wasn't a great place for me < 1369363157 388310 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish they could admit that instead of coming up with a bunch of stuff about how I didn't work on enough / the right things, when that never came up in weekly meetings with my manager < 1369363178 747928 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, why do I need unfree software to piece together a multipart rar? < 1369363186 398066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because now I worry that I missed some super coded management signal regarding working on the wrong stuff < 1369363189 928402 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't rar patented or something < 1369363203 299413 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I breaking the law by doing this? :/ < 1369363204 788757 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :7zip doesn't do it? < 1369363217 529385 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: from what you've said it seems unlikely that you missed a signal, and even if you did shouldn't they just talk to you instead of some weird coy sign language bullshit < 1369363221 998528 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ark wanted unrar so I gave it unrar < 1369363223 608877 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369363277 250135 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was never super excited about the job, but it turns out that failure hurts like a motherfucker even if you weren't super excited about the thing you failed at < 1369363285 649494 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Titanic seems nice < 1369363287 678487 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :/ < 1369363306 943655 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of forgot what the SONiVOX version sounded like though < 1369363323 878452 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/43a1ee041966efb2d37064e67501b2fd/tumblr_mjti81sBVi1s5k0eto1_500.jpg oh just in time for sgeo < 1369363343 608873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't seen Titanic < 1369363354 818512 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is referring to the soundfont known as Titanic
< 1369363356 929779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i love super coded management signals < 1369363363 422952 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :failure hurts hard < 1369363372 728079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by love i mean the opposite of that < 1369363375 949389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you have experience with this in the past? < 1369363378 218714 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i figured that but: i don't care because the movie is better probably < 1369363425 638548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not exactly... well, it depends < 1369363462 578358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point was going to be that super coded signals aren't a great way to communicate < 1369363478 819369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369363493 468419 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'd be angry regardless, but if there is a coded signal I should learn to recognize it, for my own self preservation < 1369363508 13414 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I really like Titanic < 1369363518 948452 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems ... quiet though < 1369363569 798625 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fluidsynth is a bit slow to start with it though < 1369363638 608588 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor, have you tried Titanic? Is it good? I'm getting it from the same site that has Chorium // Haven't heard of it. < 1369363657 498850 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://artagap.free.fr/karpbo/index.htm < 1369363840 748617 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I finally found a song that I don't like how Titanic handles < 1369363845 418916 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fifth element theme < 1369363907 528860 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it compare to SONiVOX? < 1369363947 464726 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like SONiVOX's fifth element better than Titanic's, but I think other than that they're similar or, with stheme5a I think I liked Titanic's much better < 1369363953 429629 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :paper clips are called "trombones" in french < 1369363970 828707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Un trombone « classique ». < 1369364004 419071 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrlds1 sounds just fine in Titanic I ... think < 1369364008 878925 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :un trombone moderne < 1369364012 249250 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would need to relisten to the SONiVOX though < 1369364033 460878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dans l'environnement de Microsoft Office, la forme par défaut de l'assistant est un trombone anthropomorphique appelé Trombine (Clippit dans la version anglaise). < 1369364200 509315 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does something... weird to oh_lamour.mid < 1369364264 799260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh l'trombone < 1369364371 489129 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fluidsynth: warning: Instrument not found on channel 14 [bank=8 prog=14], substituted [bank=0 prog=14] < 1369364372 829110 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:62: parse error on input `=' < 1369364382 839348 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for some midi which I haven't tried with other soundfonts) < 1369364425 989757 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it have bank changes < 1369364514 399305 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea < 1369364523 479542 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about MIDI < 1369364533 838924 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it GS or XG or GM2 ? < 1369364542 529058 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know < 1369364548 329640 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I do have XG files.. < 1369364554 869715 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know how many though < 1369364566 639471 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually that's what those bank changes are used for < 1369364573 879829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i broke a glass just by putting ice cubes into it < 1369364581 810851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid thermal stress < 1369364638 159645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend broke a bunch of non-pyrex petri dishes this way :/ < 1369365940 61891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It's ^/. It's tilted the same direction as italics. < 1369365948 630684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1369366001 910553 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think Titanic is better than Chorium < 1369366023 696101 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although maybe my (unknown in accuracy) assumption that they're by the same person may be unfounded < 1369366041 812610 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which may be biasing my thoughts < 1369366200 821094 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, quite different sounds on this one file < 1369366260 500475 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :generaluser makes this instrument sound ... crisp. I'm not sure if that's good < 1369366406 430305 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_x0wXsJq5I < 1369366414 571062 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some guy who likes Titanic) < 1369366456 320461 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is bad sgeo < 1369366482 778786 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i demand only the highest in fine quality F-ZERO sound track < 1369366604 310824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the percussion is pretty meh < 1369366717 641097 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs velocity on the hihats < 1369366771 876129 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think thats the biggest problem < 1369366785 210864 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ I'm a bad judge of music < 1369366826 114249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY IT'S MNOQY < 1369366828 40060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO MNOQY < 1369366837 8800 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1369366844 970733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome mnoqy < 1369366848 722 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0505mnoq09y: Welcome 03to the inte08rn06ational hub 06for esot10eric progr08amming 12lang08uage des10ign a07nd de06ployment! 03For more07 inform02atio12n08, che07ck out our 06wi12ki05: http:/03/es02olangs05.o12rg/wiki/Main_Page.11 09(For11 the08 other kind of06 e10soterica, tr14y #esoteric 08on irc.dal.net.) < 1369366896 50695 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :who here is /u/hexhammer? < 1369366952 524561 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that :) < 1369366956 721106 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who indeed < 1369367901 934620 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :............I think it's missing instruments < 1369367908 597545 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :worlds3 seemed to go silent at a weird place < 1369367914 101219 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fluidsynth did not give any warnings < 1369368051 151268 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This song that I never heard before sure sounds beautiful under Titanic < 1369368676 602370 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/jeq9T3x.png < 1369368753 201626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great hint < 1369368933 562396 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't related to anything, but I just tried typing my nick hastily, and then typing the result of that hastily, and so on for a while. The result: < 1369368937 199066 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :tstwett tswettt tswettt tdw2ett tse23tt tse23tt tse23tt tsee2tt tsee2tt tse32et tse23tew tse23tew tse23twe tese23twet tese23tet tese23tet teset23te teset3tet teste34te teste2423t test2423t test3t34t test3t34t test3r3rt test3r3t test3r3t test3er3t test33e3t tes3r3r3t tes3r3t tesr3rt tersett tereset tereset tersetg tserget tserget tsergert tserfertt tesdrfett tesdrfett tesdert tesrdet tesrdet tesrerf tesrefdeg tesrdefer tesredetr tesrdert tesrdert < 1369368937 398921 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsdert tsert test test test test test test test test test < 1369368942 642244 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bows.
< 1369368955 342671 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Five minutes of applause will suffice. < 1369369070 576150 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you do that < 1369369096 674763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: "combo inspiration" < 1369369111 91039 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ? < 1369369119 63054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mn Oq < 1369369120 742618 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a combo < 1369369124 432690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :of Mn and Oq < 1369369129 16083 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1369369583 794890 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hints that something is easy can be useful < 1369369599 183903 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Directs the mind on what sort of things to try first < 1369369616 869110 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck, even knowing that something is possible is useful < 1369369688 794490 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if math has examples of non-constructive proofs of the existence of a proof < 1369369752 662794 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like there's some set of objects I should exclude from that, but not sure how to phrase it < 1369369776 582646 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, proof that a proof exists? < 1369369811 84685 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Preferably not of the variety of "proof of statement, therefore proof of proof of statement"... < 1369369812 62423 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: i think löb's theorem might fuck that up? < 1369369850 913320 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :intuitively it sounds like proving that a proof exists is by definition a proof < 1369369933 742704 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is non-constructive, intuition don't work < 1369369970 522710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :proving that bicycles exist < 1369369973 642932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Bike < 1369369974 42300 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just going to observe, and hope my brain doesn't explode. < 1369369993 157023 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1369369995 722864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HI BIKE < 1369370005 662758 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, shachaf. < 1369370012 812597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1369370013 353069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :QED < 1369370047 262626 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Counterpoint: You've shown that a bike exists. Does it then follow that (multiple) bicycles exist? < 1369370068 932690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every bicycle exists. < 1369370074 619158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, everything exists. < 1369370128 114198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg now i'm listening to peter and the wolf and so much nostalgia man help < 1369370141 744000 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no help < 1369370829 294097 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like < 1369370854 983344 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you prove that there's a proof, you also prove that there is no proof to the contrary < 1369370866 434044 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you'd have a contradiction < 1369370871 890122 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1369370906 363631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy mnoqy mnoqy < 1369370911 653417 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1369370933 953206 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I think if you have a proof that there's a proof.... that's just a proof < 1369370965 213525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you have a fix (proof that there's a) < 1369371096 713612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops i didn't finish golfing that < 1369371114 218810 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, so, how about a constructive example. How would one prove nonconstructively that a proof of the infinitude of primes exists. < 1369371206 371462 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could suck and say "well it's in euclid right" < 1369371235 603914 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just toss in a few double negation eliminations and you'll be fine < 1369371255 888509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬¬hi mnoqy < 1369371256 975744 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: well it's about the existence of a proof < 1369371261 714243 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the theorem itself < 1369371266 37189 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1369371295 303992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess what you said makes sense if you don't interpret Bike's statement to mean "in a way that doesn't trivially give rise to a constructive proof of the same" < 1369371307 967542 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369371312 653577 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an assholish proof, if you wil < 1369371317 42018 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :before you all said your things i was going to say < 1369371319 992924 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"proof that there doesn't not exist a proof of the infinitude of primes? it could happen" < 1369371457 169130 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh geez there's more than just bitcoin and namecoin < 1369371457 713638 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/ALTcointip/wiki/index < 1369371471 270359 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://altcoins.com/ < 1369371471 469763 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are tons of those things sgeo < 1369371481 543679 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :proofcoin < 1369371494 183926 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feathercoin < 1369371499 484072 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :q < 1369371500 493854 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should give some to ais523 < 1369371503 753893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bikecoin < 1369371504 943791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://buttcoin.org/when-the-mining-gets-tough-the-not-so-tough-get-forked < 1369371508 256925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Bike, mnoqy < 1369371530 545883 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zerocoin? that's a coin right < 1369371536 719345 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes i remember buttcoin < 1369371548 163792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zerocoin is an anonymization extension to Bitcoin < 1369371569 345013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the exchange rate between zerocoins and bitcoins is fixed, and they live in the same block chain < 1369371570 915938 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh litecoin that's another i was thinking of < 1369371695 853692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not really like these others < 1369371917 524375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqoin < 1369372607 84840 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops i read youtube comments < 1369372609 665720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do i do < 1369372678 145689 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :run < 1369372698 346723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does "system engineering" have any actual meaning? < 1369372753 670048 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anything < 1369372823 464467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :context? < 1369372886 255184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Talking about things that people do in jobs. < 1369372888 424690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it just has several meanings which are sort of vaguely related. < 1369372893 900975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway it doesn't matter. < 1369373148 45233 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1369373150 217846 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1369373200 35811 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :why engineer systems when you can system engineers? < 1369374160 205460 :madbr!boulam@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1369377110 378305 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1369377221 38019 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369378723 759016 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice thing about having all your stuff in FLAC: you can transcode to lossy formats easily. < 1369378732 68733 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad thing: you have to for portable devices. < 1369378837 351321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure "easily" is the right word there; it's probably not really any more *difficult* to transcode from one lossy format to another, just stupid. < 1369378847 455358 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369378866 290640 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369378893 59265 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Let's go with "sanely". < 1369378915 719404 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION grumbles about audiophiles, continues listening to flv
< 1369378940 718983 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I mostly use FLAC for archival's sake. < 1369378955 21031 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be perfectly honest, a LAME-encoded MP3 is just fine quality-wise. < 1369379102 671012 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're sufficiently synaesthetic, can you store your music in animated GIFs? < 1369379209 799415 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you could the compression ratio would likely be atrocious < 1369382489 942086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ^/, ^_, and ^7 all work for underlining < 1369382659 302665 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i encode everything for portable devices with oggenc -q3, even if the source is mp3 < 1369382662 222479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yolo < 1369382687 505292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is original -> 320 kbps mp3 -> vorbis q3 noticably worse than original -> vorbis q3? < 1369382726 501184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's noticeably worse because you know you transcoded and feel dirty < 1369382733 781588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, because, you see < 1369382734 761712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yolo < 1369382765 541354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :most people don't even lo < 1369382780 261919 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my twitter feed is haiku about breaking iphones inbetween horrible news about massacres in qusayr. is this... the future... < 1369382791 115010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1369382805 722041 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i want a haiku about broken iphones *and* massacres < 1369382818 601678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifes too short to care about replacing all my music originals with flac < 1369382819 931802 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 'relevant' haiku of the 'now' < 1369382828 421230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can also be about flac < 1369382832 512605 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the haiku end with "sent from my iphone" < 1369382839 991792 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you have, what, a few tb of music originals? < 1369382849 832370 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful summer / massacres in qusayr / sent from my iphone < 1369382851 231478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/y/Y/ s/tb/TB/ < 1369382877 721652 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice you got the seasonal word in there < 1369382880 271958 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good haiku < 1369382893 452762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote beautiful summer / massacres in qusayr / sent from my iphone < 1369382899 104018 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1041) beautiful summer / massacres in qusayr / sent from my iphone < 1369382909 208486 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many haikus are there in quotedb nowadays < 1369382915 532778 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think just two < 1369382918 462090 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote / < 1369382918 661773 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote \s/\s < 1369382920 134044 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :433) beautiful summer / fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck / fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck \ 482) i am out of all the fame loops and the australien soap opera loops so much loop / s omcuh \ 1041) beautiful summer / massacres in qusayr / sent from my iphone < 1369382920 330231 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :72) and an AMICED literal would presumably /add/ info to the source whatever info gets added, that's the value that the AMICED doesn't contain it's all falling into place \ 111) reading playboy for the articles actually seems plausible nowadays after all, there's porn all over the internet, why would you < 1369382928 204343 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like two < 1369382929 732111 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy's is better < 1369382933 122394 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you count 482 < 1369382941 551934 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well my line was intended to be read having already seen 433 < 1369382948 682127 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you haven't seen 433 before then i may have ruined the "impact" a bit < 1369382948 881706 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see < 1369382953 571583 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we got some intertexuality going here < 1369382956 621814 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369382957 670006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no i think it was better without it < 1369382962 991881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that i saw 433 "its kinda ruined" < 1369382963 191074 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :high concept haiku < 1369382975 342469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :re playboy http://achewood.com/index.php?date=10212004 < 1369382988 25047 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"DIY Weapons In Syria - The Hell Cannon" < 1369382988 448820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 3.8TB total, not very well de-duplicated < 1369383004 302566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a subset that i "actually listen to" which is ilke 150GB < 1369383005 703873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much of it without "beats" < 1369383022 503181 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then a subset of that transcoded to ogg vorbis is 17G < 1369383023 322134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also is achewood.com down < 1369383031 782227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1369383040 905843 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, no. is it slow < 1369383051 281438 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1369383059 208081 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf always with the "beats" eh < 1369383060 253894 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so silly < 1369383071 306277 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369383083 977463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME oerjan < 1369383086 682579 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :OERJAN: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE. (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON IRC.DAL.NET.) < 1369383102 701947 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`THANKYOU shachaf < 1369383103 102167 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1369383103 301977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :UPPERCASE BECAUSE I'M EXCITED OERJAN IS FINALLY HERE < 1369383103 943096 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: THANKYOU: not found < 1369383105 796982 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :always with the oerjan eh < 1369383119 82041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :always with the always with the eh eh < 1369383152 720262 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only twice!! < 1369383166 581867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yolt < 1369383193 662117 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell taneb Remind me when we're on simultaneously hth < 1369383193 861826 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1369383233 362179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the hth thing is getting kind of old hth < 1369383270 32175 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik iirc it was old even before it started fwiw hth < 1369383310 373852 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: theres a guy who dont understand turing completeness on the wiki hope you help < 1369383323 392128 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: MAYBE LATER < 1369383327 525515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaic wid < 1369383331 522020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1369383336 805885 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hows the wiki btw < 1369383337 126393 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAFhkdGtHck structure aware hair reconstruction < 1369383402 240954 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spherical harmonic illumination conditions < 1369383443 369895 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm simulation-ready plants < 1369383464 21678 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay our hair project is in it! < 1369383492 894541 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :animation-styling, handwriting-styling, < 1369383541 809427 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of simulations < 1369383553 220240 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we can simulate: more fluids, and FINALLY snow < 1369383595 431993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i simulate snow < 1369383605 692369 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if you use their technique < 1369383610 890336 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : so this SIGGRAPH thing looks cool but it doesnt come close to SIGBOVIK, imo < 1369383618 442307 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Bike: wait you thought it was about real objects? <-- for _that_ kind of destruction ask the taliban, or the chinese government hth < 1369383646 733171 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the red guards actually part of the government? also what about the saudis. also why am i awake help. < 1369383672 942640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: uh oh < 1369383675 72258 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time Bike < 1369383676 673436 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Bike is Fri May 24 01:21:15 2013 < 1369383680 672464 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered calling your sleep advisor "elliott" < 1369383686 632378 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure what the saudis have destroyed lately < 1369383710 683144 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they concreted eve's tomb back in 2009 or whatever < 1369383712 92789 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice storms in the related videos here < 1369383714 392478 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too tired to remember specifics < 1369383734 201060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :from now on instead of pseudo-haiku you will write DOUBLE DACTYLS hth < 1369383738 432533 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as for the chinese government, i just saw something about it in the newspaper, and it's current. < 1369383740 133472 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh that was four years ago. i was so young < 1369383750 411761 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even remember how old Bike is < 1369383752 152487 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4??? < 1369383755 993608 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1369383756 193009 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bikes don't live long i think < 1369383761 112287 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in bike years < 1369383770 403416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many Bike years are there in a normal person year < 1369383771 982067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many is that in normal people years < 1369383775 912944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1369383782 472048 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you stealing my phrasings < 1369383796 453101 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like dog years in that there's no linear relation and it's generally a pointless concept < 1369383815 301264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter how old you are, you're always 4 in Bike years < 1369383820 592340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"constant function hth" < 1369383839 733157 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm does anyone take dog years seriously < 1369383845 943274 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogs do hth < 1369383850 522992 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i remember bladerunner. if bike only lives for 4 years he may be a replicant < 1369383852 412279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it looks like the tomb was sealed with concrete in 1975 < 1369383856 102681 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you old < 1369383856 382735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogs are kind of stupid though < 1369383868 303598 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll believe anything < 1369383875 833203 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the hth thing is getting kind of old hth < 1369383885 132407 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't you try a monoids joke instead < 1369383997 548846 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: they're good for introducing little kids to old yeller and shit < 1369384022 72965 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er the one with the intestines < 1369384022 824892 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt that the one where they shoot the dog < 1369384025 72300 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the red fern grows. < 1369384037 223779 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the dog die in that one too < 1369384041 913674 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369384044 54995 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :intestines sound pleasant < 1369384054 944715 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn near traumatized my entire middle school class < 1369384061 372483 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i musta been 4 at the time < 1369384067 433530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Bike, write me a higgledy-piggledy DOUBLE DACTYL < 1369384079 302349 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am way too fucking tired to remember which foot that is < 1369384090 153944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wrong foot hth < 1369384096 863893 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1369384101 818478 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :arent middle schools old enough to stomach intestines < 1369384103 973425 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you indicating it with "higgledy piggledy" < 1369384106 192122 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fucking hate you < 1369384111 772458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_dactyl < 1369384113 354616 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1369384121 302228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a whole form of thing not just a meter < 1369384131 42661 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fucker < 1369384326 492954 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : let's say... 42 and if he's younger than that, god have mercy on my soul <-- since you remembered my age correctly i'll forgive you for calling me practically dead although you do get a hth < 1369384346 469415 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well are you writing it < 1369384349 945340 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a few lines later i wonder if you might be older < 1369384354 792732 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i anticipate the swattings < 1369384375 94842 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap elliott < 1369384375 378862 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't perform such side effects on command! < 1369384382 687694 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :8) < 1369384427 654201 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im checking the recent edits on the wiki < 1369384432 420423 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im glad http://esolangs.org/wiki/Yo was spell corrected < 1369384432 722700 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my favorite meter is pterodactyl hth < 1369384446 89993 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a valuable article < 1369384446 992921 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I'm 30 as speculated hth < 1369384515 992844 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does fizzie keep being just 30 when i've thought he was older for years < 1369384523 982979 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1369384546 251036 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"derpcode is a tape-based esoteric programming language based on internet slang" o hey it's that guy but this looks like a new language?? < 1369384547 63292 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: when is your birthday < 1369384549 843253 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you also < 1369384557 549259 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"derpcode has five commands, although an expansion to achieve Turing-complete status is planned" < 1369384580 452665 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Bike NOT SO EASY < 1369384580 688967 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1369384597 876427 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do people make all of these languages < 1369384608 214793 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: my birthday is perfect in every way hth < 1369384630 349462 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan gets older, closer to death, "perfect" < 1369384668 134347 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: it was a hint you doofus < 1369384684 169573 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i solve the riddle < 1369384690 106917 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1369384727 412978 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may have revealed my birthday on-channel previously, anyway. i'm not quite sure. < 1369384738 473348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's your birthday < 1369384751 533247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it: may 24 2013 < 1369384753 93158 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1369384767 342703 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't even need 5 commands to be turing complete < 1369384768 405991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :("did u notice the americanism") < 1369384771 354222 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is it a perfect number both the day,monthe, < 1369384773 632642 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have fewer < 1369384776 119048 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Talk:English < 1369384776 434275 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was fooled by this until I got to the end. I thought it sounded like a cool language! --(this comment by 124.189.147.51 at 01:37, 5 May 2013‎ UTC; please sign your comments with ~~~~) < 1369384781 833102 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ding ding ding < 1369384787 653058 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is there a fire < 1369384802 603993 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your pants are on fire < 1369384911 383512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey anyone writing DOUBLE DACTYLS about Bike years < 1369384922 973299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote one but it breaks the rules also it's pointless < 1369384927 163282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so someone plz write a better one < 1369384935 443002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's sometime in April. (I've probably given it away somewhere in the logs already, though.) < 1369384987 799523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log fizzie's birthday < 1369384991 173105 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: happy 30 then < 1369384992 843023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess not < 1369385011 313208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :higgledy-piggledy / bicycle chronographs: / pretty good instruments -- / right twice a day / most of the time, though, they're / off by a little bit; / but for their purposes / off is okay < 1369385015 663020 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-05-24.txt:08:43:07: `log fizzie's birthday < 1369385025 37012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: whoa dude, so meta.................... < 1369385067 781630 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also hint, it's less than a week from agora's birthday < 1369385088 712787 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that should settle the small ambiguity) < 1369385102 463917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :agora = 1/100th of a shekel right < 1369385257 664282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :higgledly piggledy / ørjan johansen thinks / monoids are easy, but / semigroups hard; / why he should be such a / fan of identities? / anyone's guess; he has / caught us off-guard < 1369385266 913392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this meter is easy to write bad rhymes in when you get used to it < 1369385317 393685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i am too tired to work it out, i am afraid < 1369385329 355843 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also, lazy. < 1369385436 478836 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus thwarted, my secret remains secure. < 1369385667 513752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369385874 102524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: i think someone's up to some mischief in #haskell < 1369385883 98757 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1369385899 234807 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369385901 604384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1369385955 243828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :false alarm < 1369385960 614602 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1369385972 614348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey fizzie op me so i can +v mnoqy < 1369385980 32687 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369385980 435983 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1369385996 894008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is procrastinating on things :'(
< 1369386121 674292 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow there are a lot of rules for DOUBLE DACTYLS < 1369386127 114105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i broke all of them < 1369386175 584370 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 QUIT :Quit: Lunch < 1369386300 683994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1369386817 674190 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369386836 754249 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369387237 764444 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1369387752 585456 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369388319 601345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369388513 47403 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1369388516 549409 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369389132 566408 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369389158 893450 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCF9F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1369389307 440993 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1369389521 96111 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369389768 955988 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1369390250 277881 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369390456 287353 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369390706 312603 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1369391767 339568 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369392267 330777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey you know what's a really good channel, answer: #haskell < 1369392271 308735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw good means terrible < 1369392301 945423 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369392327 309492 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i particularly like the part where it's the worst thing in the world < 1369392365 769445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey that's a good part < 1369392371 245417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that part < 1369392885 398828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hey it was may 17 the other day < 1369392886 828554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how was that < 1369392898 469065 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: theres a guy who dont understand turing completeness on the wiki hope you help <-- i suspect he just doesn't understand zzo's specification, which is somewhat weak on telling that there actually are cells with values at each coordinate < 1369392910 660874 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i slept through most of it hth < 1369392948 864125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :was there a big party < 1369392961 814916 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were parades. as always. < 1369392999 389244 :ais523__!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369393481 199556 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369393513 578853 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1369393519 399890 :ais523__!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1369394055 629382 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably ontopic in a sideways way: http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/1956/generate-the-longest-error-message-in-c < 1369394072 315404 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, it's a golf-like competition to generate long error messages from short C++ programs < 1369394200 249853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet you could do something great with Haskell. < 1369394214 589764 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, they haven't locked down the compiler so half of it is finding the most verbose version < 1369394230 544564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A type error in one of those double-exponential inference cases. < 1369394243 249605 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it seems poorly defined < 1369394247 461390 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the concept is pretty funny anyway < 1369394292 820543 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The #include __FILE__ one is probably the shortest way to get an infinite output in some specific compiler/version < 1369394294 19836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were similar competitions in #haskell with e.g. @pl < 1369394352 190781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC also used to generate an infinite error. < 1369394380 256731 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix error < 1369394380 455877 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Longest possible @pl output? < 1369394381 589927 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *E... < 1369394395 71437 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a compiler error < 1369394413 160176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think the infinite error was a bug in the pretty-printer. < 1369394419 680173 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \a b c d e f -> f e d c b a < 1369394419 961903 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip (flip . ((flip . ((flip . (flip .)) .)) .) . flip (flip . ((flip . (flip .)) .) . flip (flip . (flip .) . flip (flip . flip id)))) < 1369394452 590075 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/3994/write-a-code-golf-problem-in-which-java-wins < 1369394578 959777 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \a -> a a a a a a a < 1369394579 196523 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :join (join (join (join (join (join id))))) < 1369394596 230584 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \a -> a a a a a a a < 1369394597 350425 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: < 1369394597 549950 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : t1 = t1 -> t2 -> t3 -> t4 -> t5 -> t6 -> t0 < 1369394597 550149 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of `a', namely `a' < 1369394651 290070 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \f -> fix f fix fix f f < 1369394651 570000 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :join (join (flip (flip fix fix) fix)) < 1369394663 217892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type ((((((((((((((((([] :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) < 1369394665 129849 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not good at this < 1369394675 230487 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I'm not sure #include __FILE__ is likely to produce an infinite output, unless you put an erroring line before the include < 1369394678 450225 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thread killed < 1369394687 217303 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ([]:) < 1369394688 660042 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[a]] -> [[a]] < 1369394695 389755 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (([]:):) < 1369394695 670043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type ((((((((((((((((([] :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) < 1369394696 720087 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]] < 1369394705 710351 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: Right, not by itself, of course < 1369394707 630976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It worked for dons once. < 1369394710 960284 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thread killed < 1369394757 210367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type (((((((((((([] :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) < 1369394759 230441 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[[[[[[[[[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]] -> [[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]]] -> [[[[[[a]] -> [[a]] < 1369394759 430487 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]] -> [[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]]]] -> [[[[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] < 1369394759 630440 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]] -> [[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]]] -> [[[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [ < 1369394759 630637 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[a]] -> [[a]]]]] -> [[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]]]]] -> [[[[[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]] -> < 1369394759 630743 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]]] -> [[[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]] -> [[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[ < 1369394761 300114 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[222 @more lines] < 1369394771 780166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type ((((((((((((([] :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :):) < 1369394774 750193 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[[[[[[[[[[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]] -> [[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]]] -> [[[[[[a]] -> [[a] < 1369394774 950202 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]] -> [[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]]]] -> [[[[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] < 1369394774 950366 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]] -> [[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]]] -> [[[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> < 1369394774 950473 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[[a]] -> [[a]]]]] -> [[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]]]]] -> [[[[[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]] -> < 1369394774 950581 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]]] -> [[[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]] -> [[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[[a]] -> [[a]]]]] -> [[[[[a]] -> [[a]]] -> [[ < 1369394776 640264 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[449 @more lines] < 1369394778 119836 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: But "E\n#include __FILE__" is hard to beat if it's infinite in some compiler (except by naming the file something shorter than _FILE_) < 1369394779 131212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. < 1369394785 278076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too much spam, sorry. < 1369394804 630255 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: hmm, yes < 1369394815 80211 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could compete quite well with the zero-byte input that someone gave as a joke < 1369394834 960166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell/06.02.26:10:01:08 [131068 @more lines] < 1369394855 750304 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hmm, now to make that into an error message < 1369394870 957618 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1369394882 251107 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ((0:):) < 1369394883 450514 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num a => [[a] -> [a]] -> [[a] -> [a]] < 1369394898 451306 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right, I see < 1369394902 810319 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it saves one character in the program < 1369394924 440575 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the message is shorter because it factors out the type requirement < 1369394930 703134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty (('a':)) < 1369394931 849417 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Char] -> [Char] < 1369394932 740851 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what query? < 1369394933 633477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty (('a':):) < 1369394934 850929 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Char] -> [Char]] -> [[Char] -> [Char]] < 1369394938 832993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The one I gave. < 1369394943 746965 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369394947 281574 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the 131068 @more < 1369394953 304610 :ais523__!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369394955 240483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one I gave. < 1369394957 680858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty (("":):) < 1369394959 20976 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[[Char]] -> [[Char]]] -> [[[Char]] -> [[Char]]] < 1369394965 340702 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1369394966 40166 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((([]:):):) + 1 < 1369394967 520653 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Num.Num < 1369394967 720266 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[[[a0]] -> [[a0]]] -> [[[... < 1369394979 341057 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, that ... is cheating < 1369395005 792311 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also insufficiently Unicode < 1369395005 991780 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369395008 731823 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369395019 884700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((((("":):):):):)"" < 1369395021 360679 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[[[[[GHC.Types.Char]] < 1369395021 570282 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... < 1369395036 951002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty ((((("":):):):):)"" < 1369395038 180294 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[[[[[Char]] -> [[Char]]] < 1369395038 379800 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> [[[Char]] -> [[Char]]]] < 1369395038 379974 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> [[[[Char]] -> [[Char]]] -> [[[Char]] -> [[Char]]]]] < 1369395047 380556 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 QUIT : < 1369395076 491147 :ais523__!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1369395799 901451 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCF9F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0/2013032900] < 1369395919 130971 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty ((((( :) :) :) :) :) < 1369395920 467257 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[[[a -> [a] -> [a]] -> [a -> [a] -> [a]]] -> [[a -> [a] -> [a]] -> [a -> [a] -> [a]]]] -> [[[a -> [a] -> [a]] -> [a -> [a] -> [a]]] -> [[a -> [a] -> [a]] -> [a -> [a] -> [a]]]]] -> [[[[a -> [a] -> [ < 1369395920 666710 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a]] -> [a -> [a] -> [a]]] -> [[a -> [a] -> [a]] -> [a -> [a] -> [a]]]] -> [[[a -> [a] -> [a]] -> [a -> [a] -> [a]]] -> [[a -> [a] -> [a]] -> [a -> [a] -> [a]]]]] < 1369397075 352036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1369399329 342519 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Driving time < 1369399640 303126 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369399649 477631 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369400371 825584 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fortune < 1369400372 114072 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1369400372 505095 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.3.1 has been released. Folks new to this game should remember that < 1369400372 704680 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.3.* releases are development kernels, with no guarantees that they < 1369400372 704760 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :will not cause your system to do horrible things like corrupt its < 1369400372 704804 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :disks, catch fire, or start running Mindcraft benchmarks. < 1369400372 704855 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -- Slashdot < 1369400455 521719 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Koen__ désolé, je suis tombé sur le pays d'à côté. < 1369400455 814437 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1369400945 26528 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369402020 516975 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god, Stephen Moffat is Scottish. < 1369402064 357922 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't... insult him for being English now < 1369402086 797130 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: but you don't insult people for being English very often < 1369402107 950650 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_, what makes you think that you english piece of shit < 1369402184 830637 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: and when you do it doesn't work < 1369402207 35046 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENGLISH LIES < 1369403909 993993 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea I just had: automated Turing Test judge < 1369403921 92134 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, instead of a human and a computer both trying to convince a human that they're human < 1369403930 391164 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the human and computer each try to convinced a computer that they're human < 1369403955 106468 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, that's what a CAPTCHA is, isn't it? < 1369404361 143570 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1369404510 776558 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369405111 350125 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1369405159 348923 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real question is whether turing could pass a captcha....... deep thoughts < 1369405189 277228 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo no < 1369405208 1719 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing the germans never worked that out < 1369405844 352368 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1369405978 550256 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:2D-Reverse I don't really see why it can't be turing complete < 1369406054 836949 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how you can "only store 4 values" really < 1369406092 104422 :SOLEIL!~SOLEIL@jem75-h02-31-33-55-33.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1369406547 695334 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1369409929 622429 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm Polish < 1369409931 701114 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insult me < 1369409951 963417 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you even good for < 1369409957 851180 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :being put on shoes, that's what < 1369409973 334632 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong kind of polish =P < 1369410135 324121 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote you suck < 1369410138 881435 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1369410146 876430 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlogs you suck < 1369410148 393531 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastlogs: not found < 1369410187 291749 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh! I need a proof that I'm a sucker! I ain't let nobody sweep me off that illustrious position! < 1369410660 558226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: "it has to be able to store an arbitrary number of VARIABLES, not only be able to store an infinite number of different values" I don't understand it. < 1369410697 701812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: As far as I can tell, he'd argue brainfuck is not T-complete because it can only "store" one "variable". < 1369410786 448510 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :So with variable, he means the infinite array I suppose? < 1369410806 484017 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why you would need an infinite amount of infinite arrays though < 1369410822 72254 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think what the pointer is currently pointing at. < 1369411381 951728 :SOLEIL!~SOLEIL@jem75-h02-31-33-55-33.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Quit: MegaIRC v4.06 http://ironfist.at.tut.by < 1369412190 218141 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: can i have a trading care of you? < 1369412972 382365 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's asleep < 1369414233 497195 :iamcal_!uid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kddeyxjlrdlsvrwl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1369414338 304050 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wfxttmblcmoaizmo QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1369414415 36628 :abumirqaan!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-slehvbpfmflkrolv QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1369414602 249563 :Guest21445!~ChicaLind@70.35.153.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369414640 732966 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1369414883 873552 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369415232 541988 :Guest21445!~ChicaLind@70.35.153.112 QUIT :Quit: Saliendo < 1369415297 22404 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1369415299 929046 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1369415363 319312 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nuance. < 1369415368 624327 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42299.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Lymia < 1369415372 51511 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14Lymia: 10Wel13come to06 the international 10hub for esot02eric pro13gramming language design and de09ployment05! For more14 infor10mat06ion, check out05 o02ur w14iki: http://e09sola03ngs11.12o07rg/wiki/Main_07P09age. (For06 the 10other kin11d09 13of es12ot14erica, t05ry #eso13teric 09on irc.dal.net.) < 1369415382 137961 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1369415410 616499 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's quite the unrainbowy set of random colors. < 1369415610 632628 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369415784 794552 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck unrainbow < 1369415785 170196 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1369415796 697980 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, what sound does a cuttlefish make? < 1369416011 632111 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: hey, so you know Agora's trading card game? < 1369416019 532924 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could I get some Sgeo trading cards off you? < 1369416429 305620 :alejandro!~canaima@190.121.239.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369416449 75978 :alejandro!~canaima@190.121.239.13 PART :#esoteric < 1369416806 385971 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what's that thingy with the terrifying and the holes < 1369416806 665704 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1369417004 432211 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: o hai! I think I needed to apply kinetic energy on you with a blunt object, but I can't remember why. < 1369417031 763764 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kinda tipsy, now isn't a great time < 1369417105 550881 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. I'll wait for the completion of your stat debuff and then apply bluntness in a delicate and polite manner. < 1369417160 667026 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tipsiness also includes a buff to pain resistance < 1369417172 118591 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I wouldn't be taking the full force < 1369417176 756961 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which isn't really fair < 1369417974 657013 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369417991 228221 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello! < 1369417998 912450 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, cpressey! < 1369418011 817678 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...are you the real cpressey? < 1369418029 237629 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, usually. < 1369418036 200258 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1369418044 677384 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It feels like I'm meeting a celebrity < 1369418072 257152 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except this time, I had heard of him earlier than the day I met him < 1369418078 330006 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not a celebrity, i'm just old :) < 1369418150 764705 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Befunge is older than me :/ < 1369418194 306823 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worse: Taneb is older than me < 1369418285 246865 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, so what have you been up to recently? < 1369418372 341535 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369418655 48060 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369418656 654854 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: (plz excuse me if i don't respond in rt, i'm apt to get pulled afk) not a lot, esolang-wise. things are fairly unusual for me right now. as usual. (which makes no sense, of course) < 1369418663 437288 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover! < 1369418682 160669 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey!!!!! < 1369418686 626901 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has been too long < 1369418690 268065 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, have you been reading Phantom_Hoover's Tumblr? < 1369418693 176858 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hole in my soul is filled < 1369418704 561830 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think cpressey's a ghost. His IP is deep in the middle of a black zone from RIPE: http://internetcensus2012.bitbucket.org/hilbert/index.html < 1369418715 761580 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is like gandalf meeting elrond (relatively speaking of course) < 1369418732 973304 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1369418885 804972 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, I'm pretty sure Phantom_Hoover is neither Gandalf nor Elrond < 1369418897 666059 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you comparing me to a fucking elf < 1369418898 47996 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If cpressey met David Morgan-Mar, that would be fun < 1369419085 120308 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantum_Hoover: no, elrond is the oldest < 1369419127 638376 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure Gandalf was older than Elrond < 1369419169 277423 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1369419173 85669 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems unlikely < 1369419185 793054 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need a third party... wikipedia! < 1369419226 645729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure about that too. < 1369419244 648270 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :wel I just ddg'd aga of gandalf < 1369419248 487948 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Gandalf predates Middle Earth < 1369419250 307656 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's impolite to ask a wizard his age < 1369419250 588030 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1369419267 909518 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thetolkienforum.com/showthread.php?9430-Gandalf-s-age < 1369419279 251468 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i'm tempted to attribute that to the law of conservation of holes in souls. should i be reading your tumblr? < 1369419298 788299 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- has the strength of a grown man like physical wise and junk --" < 1369419299 890623 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1369419301 967839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best thread, I'm sure. < 1369419309 923698 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have proof < 1369419324 458416 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, "has been on Middle-Earth" != his age. < 1369419326 373628 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I was there three thousand years ago, when the strength of Men failed." - Elrond, The Fellowship of the Ring < 1369419345 169130 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo y'all are fuckin nerds jst fyi < 1369419361 523952 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I remember doing the math on a thread long ago, and he is 2021 years old. He came into Middle Earth as Gandalf 1000years into the 1st age, i think, and he lived till the end of the third, or remained Gandalf until the end of the third. 2021 years " < 1369419366 757991 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and Gandalf was presumably there before Arda was founded. Unless, I guess, they were making new maiar or however those things get created. < 1369419369 381564 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elrond is definitely older. < 1369419380 770112 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: He *came into Middle Earth* then. That's not his age. < 1369419396 837644 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the same is true for the elves though, afaik < 1369419399 961826 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mary Poppins is supposed to be "as old as the Earth". Trump card, I think. < 1369419416 289622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandalf "In Valinor, Gandalf was known as Olórin.[1] As recounted in the "Valaquenta" in The Silmarillion,[19] he was one of the Maiar of Valinor, specifically, of the people of the Vala Manwë --" < 1369419434 380791 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of Valaquenta predates elves in general. < 1369419449 649548 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :about elrond: "He was born in the refuge of the Havens of Sirion in Beleriand late in the First Age," < 1369419462 49855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, so he most definitely doesn't predate elves. < 1369419554 88263 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: "With the Valar came other spirits whose being also began before the World, of the same order as the Valar but of less degree. These are the Maiar, the people of the Valar, -- Wisest of the Maiar was Olórin." --Silmarillion. < 1369419560 409195 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: So "before the World". < 1369419594 25074 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NaN < 1369419792 165659 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright maybe this was more like Gandalf meeting Tom Bombadil < 1369419806 659203 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not sure about his age either < 1369419839 508360 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tom's called "Eldest", but I've seen some Tolkien newsgroup people saying he's exactly as old as Arda and not older. < 1369419849 538059 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, Phantom_Hoover is not that old? < 1369419849 918216 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's older than Elrond too, incidentally. :p < 1369419879 648926 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, have you followed me on Twitter? < 1369419889 208381 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so < 1369419900 709033 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I pretty much never use Twitter < 1369419911 39771 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Mark my words, my friends: Tom was here before the river and the trees; Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn. He made paths before the Big People, and saw the little People arriving. He was here before the Kings and the graves and the Barrow-wights. When the Elves passed westward, Tom was here already, before the seas were bent. He knew the dark under the stars when it was ... < 1369419913 643519 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: OK. This was Bilbo meeting Gandalf? < 1369419916 990055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.'") < 1369419936 589479 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't read what the original context was, actually. :p < 1369419980 92439 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And of course that's what Tom *said*. I wouldn't trust a guy who keeps saying "ring a ding dillo" and such.) < 1369420067 809039 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Tom's called "Eldest", but I've seen some Tolkien newsgroup people saying he's exactly as old as Arda and not older. < 1369420096 748988 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Tolkein trivia competency once of the pillars of becoming the "hthiest channel of the network" perchance? < 1369420102 499732 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*one < 1369420104 49040 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you believe the theory that he's iluvatar... < 1369420111 429311 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://www.tolkiensociety.org/faq01.html#bombadil is I think what I was thinking about. It's sort of unclear. < 1369420142 238567 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, you'll have missed the whole hth epidemic < 1369420146 808366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It does not accept the Tom-is-Eru point of view.) < 1369420162 992033 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: aah! < 1369420166 802512 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do tell. (in summary form preferably) < 1369420167 954162 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: probably < 1369420182 568869 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: people put "hth" all over their messages. the end < 1369420184 310773 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: It's about people overusing hth hth < 1369420201 528599 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah i see kthx < 1369420212 768554 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It stands for "hope this helps" hth < 1369420229 459001 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it's a clear form of aah < 1369420258 328924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I thought it standed for something involving hairy toes. < 1369420265 428310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stood. < 1369420268 545649 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It stands for many things < 1369420268 820236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stood on a toe. < 1369420321 315067 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1369420323 969165 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1369420349 698696 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you can see, hth is very clear nah. < 1369420368 40655 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369420427 151031 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember hth from 2003-ish. the Californian version was "hth hand". < 1369420453 798947 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nah" as a sentence-ender on the other hand -- that seems less familiar < 1369420453 998407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Is Legolas blonde or dark?" "Another often-overlooked point is that every single elf described in person in LotR and The Hobbit, apart from the family of Elrond, is fair-haired. And they are all blonde apart from Celeborn, who is silver-haired, and Círdan who, for some unexplained reason, is old and grey." this FAQ certainly addresses the important problems of the world. < 1369420461 868999 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey, it is cpressey! Long time no see < 1369420478 328855 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :halloo Vorpal < 1369420489 287488 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? aah < 1369420491 368352 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah ambiguous acronym here < 1369420506 423235 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nah < 1369420508 779135 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah no ambiguity here < 1369420514 660143 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-193.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369420529 768628 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1369420574 719761 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, I remember you saying once that you needed the esoteric programming languages to get away from the day to day coding at work (or something to similar effect). You were absolutely correct about that. < 1369420599 779962 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though work is still fun, there is definitely such a thing as too much C++ < 1369420691 701245 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369420773 288709 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i don't remember saying that, but yes, countering the ill effects of production programming is definitely one use for esolang, sure < 1369420780 233968 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: there is of course also such a thing as too much brainfuck derivatives < 1369420895 179761 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1369420922 697462 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369420992 250001 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, so how are things going these days? < 1369421135 419626 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: same old, same old; that is to say, complete chaos. < 1369421142 129325 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, ah < 1369421170 369789 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :going by my editing history of the esolangs wiki, i "discovered" Imaginary Functions, and then my brain exploded. < 1369421187 678970 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was almost half a year ago, wow. time flied < 1369421200 704517 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*flies, *flew, whichever, take your pick < 1369421202 611411 :iamcal__!uid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jzexaqqvuiibeydg JOIN :#esoteric < 1369421207 9438 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is an imaginary function? I assume it is something more complex (pun originally not intended) than complex numbers? < 1369421248 661282 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was something stupid, iirc. you can search the wiki for the article if you really care < 1369421277 331314 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not want to load... Huh < 1369421291 462694 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but something loosely analogous to imaginary numbers, yeah < 1369421295 29168 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1369421296 750869 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh, IPv6 issues again is it? < 1369421300 716856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL: The imaginary error function, erfi(z), is defined as -i erf (iz). < 1369421305 436604 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does Chromium ignore /etc/gai.conf < 1369421326 669878 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369421427 499744 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, heh that is a pretty cool idea < 1369421438 190528 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :though more as a joke than as something that would actually work < 1369421441 980531 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: They've probably monkeyed (term certainly not suggested by a recent join) around with DNS resolving, for something and profit. < 1369421483 352522 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hlakiiqzxsoaxqxu JOIN :#esoteric < 1369421484 365608 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, result is that when there is IPv6 issues I will get those in chromium even though I want to prefer ipv4 < 1369421915 751144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0dHKWjXn-E i love that defense contractors make these kinds of videos < 1369421978 367093 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the Predator C has an anti ballistic missile laser capability :O < 1369421985 643218 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, beautiful < 1369422067 892707 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1369422071 421128 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369422102 635228 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's the target demographic of this video? < 1369422104 967983 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369422112 829375 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369422114 67142 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: according to reddit, sqlite was created for missile guidance systems. < 1369422141 876491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1369422179 937340 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, the enemy radar guy < 1369422182 424362 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"omg, jamming??" < 1369422216 30516 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.227.178 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1369422271 330273 :TWal!~TWal@c2s31-2-83-152-89-125.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369422327 625759 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like, is this supposed to be a commercial given to the DoD < 1369422350 30762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i don't know < 1369422356 460058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's for the people who decide what to buy and/or how much of it < 1369422357 53253 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dungeons /or/ Dragons < 1369422357 253070 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can no longer have both < 1369422365 601489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's for stockholders? < 1369422381 840670 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: damn budget cuts < 1369422385 560017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen a lot of these though < 1369422387 89906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Is it written "D|D"? < 1369422404 645334 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i've seen this sort of thing before too and i didn't get it then either < 1369422423 823383 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: isn't | inclusive or? Sounds more like XOR too me "you can't have both" < 1369422424 740645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :D∨D < 1369422432 979287 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Canada it's the "Department of National Defence" so you can totally have both < 1369422433 607152 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1369422438 700191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :D⊕D < 1369422451 912197 :abumirqaan!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eavaabvfejcyxhht JOIN :#esoteric < 1369422452 598584 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Advanced Dungeons xor Dragons. < 1369422453 751566 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :not (d <=> d) < 1369422456 705060 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that < 1369422464 71387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is that A(D^D) or (AD)^D?) < 1369422474 171203 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.198.39 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369422482 246520 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well advanced dragons sound scary, i'm gonna stick with advanced dungeons < 1369422509 674511 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well (not (d <=> d)) <=> d xor d if I'm not making a horrible mistake < 1369422517 650423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wdjgL40wc4 < 1369422523 20282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the original soundtrack, sadly < 1369422560 874123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fair use for Tsar Bomba... The photograph belongs to Russian department of Atomic Energy Minatom. Introducing the picture on our server does not interfere with their ability to develop and market new nuclear devices" < 1369422561 73789 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Dr. Michio Kaku Says America Has a Secret Super Weapon' thanks youtube < 1369422604 560453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: have you played DEFCON? < 1369422696 401798 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. that game is horribly depressing. < 1369422789 313080 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1369422940 759991 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm really bad at it. < 1369423076 341114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.flickr.com/photos/bpx/135581065/in/set-72057594117941491/lightbox/ < 1369423148 134408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of good stuff in this gallery < 1369423148 801793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.flickr.com/photos/bpx/135597116/in/set-72057594117941491 < 1369423314 401376 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.flickr.com/photos/bpx/135857435/in/set-72057594117941491 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bpx/135857360/in/set-72057594117941491 < 1369423320 181416 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, Flickr now offers a terabyte of storage for free users? That must be new. < 1369423474 641219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Flickr is now "biggr", "spectaculr" and "wherevr". Well... whatevr, I guess. < 1369423558 254823 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was someone on github making fun of it by offering a flickr-as-FUSE < 1369423571 46074 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: haha. butt. < 1369423582 801520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you understand. < 1369423644 47996 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/d965aa707ebaaab6a223094666ae1a41/tumblr_mmgd8tWpgu1r0wqrdo1_500.jpg < 1369423688 342154 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not violent but HERE'S MY FIST IN YOUR FACE < 1369423688 591943 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1369423707 261435 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that better not be a message about confusing paris and brussels < 1369423712 35906 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@message < 1369423712 371505 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: messages messages? < 1369423719 291142 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages < 1369423719 694549 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 6h 27m 44s ago: désolé, je suis tombé sur le pays d'à côté. < 1369423828 836124 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whÃcks lambdabot
< 1369423850 646403 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whéks. < 1369423923 601180 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Settlers of côté, the mojibake boardgame. < 1369424084 188255 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130524-biggr.png nice slider. < 1369424288 58265 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm can you do private photos on flickr? < 1369424303 245795 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so you could use that as a backup service, encoding data in photos < 1369424343 496990 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can. Though if you trust your encryption, privateness shouldn't matter. < 1369424356 164635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'd assume the Flickr FUSE thing does encryption?) < 1369424373 32249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might easily be against their TOS, of course. < 1369424380 91093 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flicker fuse thing? That sounds cool < 1369424457 642286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a couple "serious" Flickr FUSE things that are actually about managing your visible photos. < 1369424472 541687 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I gather the thing Bike mentioned wasn't like that? < 1369424556 481801 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should do encryption and authentication/integrity < 1369424579 841661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ones (for arbitrary data) I can find offhand don't seem to be FUSE modules. But I'm sure that's out there too. < 1369424613 122217 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also they seem to just put the data into a tEXt PNG chunk. < 1369424656 308997 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1369424902 602064 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, my fcolor thing still hasn't bitrotted away. < 1369424928 722220 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though for some reason two first images when I told it to search for the color of love were of insects copulating. < 1369424948 132114 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It uses the "sort by relevance" criterion, so... that makes sense?) < 1369424961 631990 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far, love seems kind of brown. < 1369425168 459910 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems likely that some insects would change colour when they're, um, in love < 1369425233 412062 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The search term was just "love", though. < 1369425473 221520 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, "tEXt"? < 1369425479 94644 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a weird casing < 1369425500 530157 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I think the case of at least the first letter has semantics. < 1369425510 19360 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1369425511 691694 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uppercase for mandatory and lowercase for optional chunks, or something like that. < 1369425518 404249 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1369425547 541999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all four do iirc < 1369425550 373312 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, all of them do. < 1369425582 51167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that even for unrecognized chunk types, you know if it's safe to ignore them and strip them when saving and such < 1369425583 13359 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the third is arguable. < 1369425591 852881 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :First one is the critical/ancillary (aka mandatory/optional) bit; second is public/private; third is reserved for future extension; and fourth is the safe-to-copy bit. < 1369425607 177664 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1369425630 322686 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So tEXt is ancillary (not strictly necessary for meaningful display of the image), public (defined by the standard), and safe to copy. < 1369425653 927355 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The reserved letter is always uppercase for the standard chunks.) < 1369425665 839653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PNG format is... interesting < 1369425676 993543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of those formats which has both big and little endian parts :< < 1369425686 611460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.com/2012/04/minimal-encoder-for-uncompressed-pngs.html < 1369425700 662942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the readme of that tool said it's stored as tEXt (uncompressed textual data) and not zTXt (compressed text) because the library it used didn't support the latter. < 1369425732 662623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PNG has lots of potential for steganographic information hiding < 1369425767 292927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example the breaks between IDAT chunks can occur anywhere within the zlib stream < 1369425775 333670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course there are many ways to zlib-compress the same bytes as wel < 1369425803 472743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can also encode a few bits per line in the choice of 'filter' functions < 1369426083 11781 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm so what does "safe to copy" mean? < 1369426935 212881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're editing a PNG and don't recognize this chunk, you can copy it verbatim to the output file < 1369427450 653951 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369427905 883614 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369427914 798041 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369428513 474353 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this factorial-less proof i wrote of pascal's formula is pretty cute: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15495351/pascal.pdf < 1369428553 56597 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using colors in latex-y documents feels very... unprofessional... but it's so cleeear < 1369428607 269796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks nice < 1369428636 274552 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shewed this slide https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130325-colorslide.png the other day (well, the other month) < 1369428654 754518 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also a LaTeX-y document, though I suppose using colors in a beamer slideset is far less unprofessional. < 1369428682 795544 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that one looks like colorblind hell < 1369428710 65832 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just them groupings. < 1369428726 184866 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, the betas that are violet are both blue and red at the same time SO DEEP < 1369428752 334033 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh. i see < 1369428786 797350 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, is "x choose (-1) = 0" even a thing? wolfram alpha agrees, my ti-84 doesn't < 1369428815 956269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :back in my day we didn't have ti-84 < 1369428831 34046 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did your slide rules do binomial coefficients? < 1369428887 374537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1369428891 815281 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean sure, it's impossible to pick -1 elements out of any collection. but contrary to stuff like "n choose k = 0 if k > n", this situation doesn't even make sense < 1369428922 584921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess those things are usually set in order to make some identities hold < 1369428955 244940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a relevant identity here < 1369428987 849220 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you could say, from that rule i proved, \binom{n+1}{0} = \binom{n}{0} + \binom{n}{-1} < 1369428989 784023 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's impossible, then there are zero ways to do it, right? < 1369429011 542840 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 1 = 1 + \binom{n}{-1}, so it's 0 < 1369429057 249075 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: well the thing that bugs me about making up rules about negative binomial coefficients is < 1369429099 667317 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\binom{4}{sqrt(2)+i} is also "impossible" but it's definitely not 0 < 1369429125 256611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a type error < 1369429129 825579 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1369429133 905385 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like -1 should be, too < 1369429138 892529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mebbe < 1369429150 924703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\binom{4}{banana} < 1369429160 904284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\binom{4}{☭} < 1369429164 745135 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow what the hell, i was considering exactly that example < 1369429168 399933 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\binom{4}{banana} < 1369429189 295861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1369429193 314221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :banana is the most random fruit < 1369429202 254638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like 37 is the most random number in [1,100] < 1369429273 176673 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most random number in [1,10] is either 7 or 3.14159265, depending on level of smart-assery < 1369429423 84702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but π isn't proven to be normal < 1369429436 704935 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most random number in [1,10] should be some number constructed to be provably normal < 1369429450 984585 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : \binom{4}{☭} <-- what is that blurry symbol? < 1369429451 183794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo the most random number in [1,10] should be uncomputable < 1369429464 57001 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a hammer and sickle Vorpal < 1369429472 684689 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1369429484 509062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'meegan < 1369429489 564746 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: imo they're all equally random? < 1369429492 845364 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i thought you were thinking sociologically. like that study finding that most people picked 17 as random in [1,20] < 1369429495 625042 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in soviet russia, random number chooses YOU < 1369429496 794731 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_, really blurry in 8 pt dejavu sans mono < 1369429514 55478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You should know by now that people are thinking more than one thing. < 1369429514 254812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Copeland–Erdős constant plus 1? (I guess you can freely select the initial digits?) < 1369429515 156572 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: we were at first but then #esoteric kicked in < 1369429515 986562 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a 96 dpi monitor that is < 1369429546 73333 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that sounds hard. < 1369429553 644437 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how long it takes until we get 300+ dpi desktop monitors < 1369429559 984708 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least 200+ < 1369429570 595162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost all numbers in [1,10] are uncomputable, so I guess it's quite probable the most random number is too? < 1369429579 425416 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm sure there is some super-expensive specialist one already < 1369429580 6626 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reasons people run these studies: - they wanna win at "guess which number i'm thinking of" < 1369429593 864680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: If you pick a number in [1,10] randomly, it's uncomputable with probability 1. < 1369429605 819743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's completely certain. < 1369429607 258207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1369429641 435154 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay I picked 1 I guess 1 is uncomputable then oh well sucks to be 1. < 1369429666 545005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't pick randomly enough sorry < 1369429677 624729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay okay I pick 7 I hear it's random. < 1369429677 823949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :better luck next time < 1369429688 834239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you should +v me < 1369429692 765382 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 is random, by fair dice roll according to xkcd < 1369429723 144701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa dude i bet kmc was making a subtle xkcd reference < 1369429729 714659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1369429761 129479 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtlety? in esoteric? < 1369429786 499087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was subtlety there and you missed it Bike "sry" < 1369429898 265335 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/1213/ <-- does that thing actually work? It surely can't test for colorblindness as it claims to since it is greyscale... And there is no big number in it... < 1369429903 666029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I think there's some screens for like "medical use" that are something like 160-180 ppi. You don't need that high resolutions to get a high ppd (pixels per degree) at the distances you're ergonomical-standards-ly "supposed" to look at a desktop monitor from. < 1369429941 695538 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I certainly could do with a bit more than 96 though, 120-130 maybe < 1369430158 686629 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps someone'll start to sell a bit smaller 2560x1440 screens at some point. At 27" (those are generally available at the moment) that's 108 ppi. < 1369430161 65170 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: if you insist on viewing text in an 8-point font, yes, i could see how you might want that < 1369430183 429687 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, actually 9pt < 1369430193 817727 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it works fine for IRC, and for latin font < 1369430198 425291 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can read that < 1369430212 475054 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not without my glasses obviously, but I use glasses all the time anyway < 1369430226 856921 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't read a book without my glasses < 1369430327 743463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps when there's enough 4K content around, someone'll make, say, a 24" (or some other such sensible desktop size) monitor where you can display some of it natively. < 1369430360 645773 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3840x2160 at 24" would be 180 ppi.) < 1369430403 895406 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I wouldn't mind that < 1369430436 81725 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of which I plan to get some new monitors sooner rather than later < 1369430445 452828 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gotten so used to multi-monitor at work < 1369430450 188579 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need it at home too < 1369430456 624964 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone have any recommendations? < 1369430466 731147 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thinking maybe two syncmasters or similar < 1369430482 306245 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are are any better brand that isn't super-expensive < 1369430491 525036 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ViewSonic has allegedly announced a 32" 3840x2160 (i.e., 140 ppi) desktop display at some point. < 1369430501 45458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nice! < 1369430511 967854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: what size? < 1369430534 316541 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, Around 22-24 or so < 1369430540 255259 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:10 < 1369430543 967632 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adjustable height < 1369430548 758387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :get the Dell U2412M then < 1369430559 749240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe one in portrait, one in landscape < 1369430561 405076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that setup < 1369430566 161712 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, is the colour reproduction good on that? < 1369430576 505946 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at my last job I had two U2412M in portrait with a U3011 between them... < 1369430577 185953 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I prefer to have a rectangular desktop < 1369430584 396811 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And LG had a 30" panel of that resolution at some trade show, according to interwebs. < 1369430595 58212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :color reproduction is supposed to be good... it's an IPS panel and it's Dell's UltraSharp line, which is their high end line < 1369430604 465803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never like measured it < 1369430609 587636 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :30" is too big, won't fit < 1369430611 195736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not factory color calibrated like the U3011 < 1369430618 166026 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so what does it cost... lets see < 1369430620 659412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: And nobody complained that setup reminds people of the Two Towers and is therefore insensitive workplace behaviour? < 1369430625 706387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1369430636 85515 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just one huge wall of monitors < 1369430653 28700 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :About 2000 SEK, okay. Somewhat expensive but oka < 1369430668 7584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's about what I paid < 1369430671 896108 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except you know in USD < 1369430678 650001 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1369430685 925285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of electronics is weirdly expensive in Europe < 1369430694 255815 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like computers will cost as many £ in UK as they cost $ here < 1369430695 235485 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, U3011 and U2412M? How do they differ? < 1369430698 95868 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does the M mean < 1369430704 185423 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, higher VAT I guess? < 1369430720 995985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :U3011 is a 30" monitor, a slightly older line (there's a new model now) < 1369430730 525107 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1369430731 481389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as it's older, it has a CFL backlight rather than LED < 1369430743 185601 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it have displayport? < 1369430750 864078 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the M means that it's an E-IPS rather than H-IPS monitor < 1369430754 89072 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 24" one I mean < 1369430765 265611 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what is the difference between E-IPS and H-IPS? < 1369430768 985320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone else somewhere recommended something that I think sounded like U2412M too, FWIW. (High praise.) < 1369430779 565711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was Dell and 24", at least. < 1369430799 185874 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means cheaper but somewhat smaller viewing angles etc < 1369430814 105352 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should check what my Dell at work is < 1369430818 766475 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a pretty good one too < 1369430820 675646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no complaints with the viewing angle though, even in portrait mode < 1369430830 188436 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this discussion would be so sexy if you were talking about cars < 1369430835 991313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck cars < 1369430837 415529 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a weird combo of one syncmaster, one dell + built in laptop display < 1369430842 582304 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the laptop is also a dell) < 1369430858 770166 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well polyvalent cars, really < 1369430860 635811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a more expensive H-IPS 24" ultrasharp too < 1369430867 625214 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__, who cares about cars? Monitors are far more interesting, and also cheaper < 1369430889 126496 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares about cars who monitors monitors < 1369430908 245745 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, nope, 2000 SEK / monitor is definitely on the upper end of the range for me < 1369430917 204477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also a lot harder to kill someone with a monitor < 1369430932 16049 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :may be so, but you can do it indoors < 1369430955 275845 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently my work screen is an "FUS P24W-6 LED", whatever that means. < 1369430962 59618 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think FUS stands for Fujitsu here. < 1369430962 976045 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__, I'm getting a small second hand Kia soon. 10 years old, but mileage is very low, since it has been used as a summer car by an old relative. < 1369430997 775722 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was like less than 1200 Swedish miles (1 Swedish mile = 10 km) < 1369431004 215907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Sexiest car ever, I'm sure. < 1369431010 285999 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah < 1369431010 715846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish miles really < 1369431015 446745 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, quite so < 1369431022 136463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh singular 'mil' < 1369431029 77611 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, Or Scandinavian perhaps < 1369431038 966200 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hmm what kind of kia? < 1369431054 827892 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm used to a mil being 0.001 in < 1369431067 666268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm renting a CAR this June, it's prepaid and all. < 1369431069 224732 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__, don't remember, it works, has an AC and a electric engine heater. What more do you need? < 1369431074 606457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's the kind of car that it'll have four wheels. < 1369431075 206166 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not like it is a monitor < 1369431095 256107 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, heh < 1369431160 595440 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like air conditionning < 1369431173 606714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol electric engine heater, do parking spots in .se have outlets to plug those in? < 1369431176 866012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw those in alaska < 1369431177 65521 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the car will be a "Ford Fiesta or equivalent". I don't know, I picked the cheapest one with AC. (Even in Finland there's sometimes hot summer days.) < 1369431212 26228 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, Well, at home and at work yes usually < 1369431217 305749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "Residential" parking slots, the kind you pay a monthly fee for, here pretty much all have those. < 1369431222 436249 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, not at supermarkets and such unless you are way up north < 1369431230 675421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you aren't parked as long there < 1369431243 456455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :must suck if you leave your car at the pub overnight < 1369431257 695702 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well for me, I park at the garage driveway probably < 1369431265 236003 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since there is no space in the garage < 1369431276 95037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the parking place fee at our apartment building is something like 10-20 eur/month. < 1369431286 115974 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no space in the garage cause it's full of monitors < 1369431295 766026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parking spots in manhattan cost as much as studio apartments < 1369431302 785732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might've been a different price for the places with a roof than those on top of it. < 1369431305 49912 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the apartments are not a lot bigger < 1369431310 785744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it makes sense really < 1369431391 655862 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Do you know if Berkeley is a nice place? There's a (smallish) chance I might migrate thataway (after graduating) for a year or so. < 1369431406 955811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems pretty nice < 1369431414 505718 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : there's no space in the garage cause it's full of monitors <-- no but my parents car is there, and it isn't a two-car garrage < 1369431418 118383 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :garage* < 1369431423 93626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have that much experience with Berkeley < 1369431429 774465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the SF bay area in general, and I'm going to move there soon < 1369431436 605849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Berkeley is nice. < 1369431445 307149 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You should invest in one of those robot car tower things. < 1369431481 62805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I've lived there. But I've visited friends there and I like going there. < 1369431481 262186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Berkeley has one of the highest rates of bicycle and pedestrian commuting in the nation. Berkeley is the safest city of its size in California for pedestrians and cyclists, considering the number of injuries per pedestrian and cyclist, rather than per capita" < 1369431482 245694 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what do you mean? < 1369431483 875493 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1369431485 316534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo < 1369431495 356055 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: wait, so you park your car outside just in front of the garage door? how do you parents do when they need their car? < 1369431503 138403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's pretty expensive to live in Berkeley proper < 1369431519 307370 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__, we would obviously schedule it so that the next car out is the one outmost < 1369431537 981683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's connected to BART and you could easily live in Oakland or Richmond instead < 1369431539 117014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vr7ofPTpcM that kind of thing. < 1369431546 516623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but these places are a lot less nice < 1369431576 77383 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__, besides there is enough area in front of the garage for a car to pass another parked to the side, since it was originally a two car garage but was rebuilt in the 60s (way before we moved here) to have a isolated inner area in one half < 1369431590 784245 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :To put various stuff in during the winter < 1369431597 237003 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it is a non-heated garage) < 1369431616 109803 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :various stuff that includes monitors? < 1369431638 736179 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the hotels for our upcoming summer trip has a "completely automatized" garage -- http://www.hotel-luganodante.com/en/Technical_Information_Our_Garage -- not that we're going to be driving a car or anything. < 1369431659 426354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not terribly clear what "completely automatized" means. < 1369431667 485921 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__, no, extra freezer, the home grown potatos and other stuff < 1369431691 756386 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :No monitors were harmed in the building of this area < 1369431694 656204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The home-grown monitors. < 1369431698 285982 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1369431700 846189 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monitor lizards, that is. < 1369431706 796231 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1369431720 365809 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's a thermometer in the freezer right? with a MONITOR to display the temperature? < 1369431729 836002 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, "Sorry! There was an error. We will fix it as soon as possible. back to home" < 1369431733 936633 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, useless link < 1369431744 27366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It works if you navigate there manually. < 1369431749 126914 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1369431751 913269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOTEL -> Garage. < 1369431759 217815 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they check referer or something equally silly. < 1369431784 865744 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently not. < 1369431799 991283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe it relies in some sort of a session cookie, which would be even sillier. < 1369431805 858920 :TWal!~TWal@c2s31-2-83-152-89-125.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1369431809 764700 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the direct links work now that I've visited the front page. < 1369431814 836539 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1369431821 416052 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369431831 377052 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they fail at English < 1369431844 27354 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or have a very weird relationship to cars < 1369431865 27426 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calling it a "truthful companion" rather than "trusted" or similar for a start < 1369431868 352135 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what would you do in Berkeley < 1369431889 536556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :berk hth < 1369431898 266540 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to cpressey < 1369431909 367689 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one moment i was celebrating his return and now vorpal's being allowed to talk < 1369431914 480166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome cpressey < 1369431916 836580 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1369431918 966671 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm here i'm here < 1369431930 216538 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Our place has some sort of a ongoing reciprocal exchange thing with http://www.icsi.berkeley.edu/icsi/ -- my supervisor just came back from there a week ago. < 1369431943 826288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1369431966 746335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :berkeley CS is supposed to be pretty good < 1369431990 864821 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's what they say < 1369432006 137016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean I've heard complaints from undergrads that the program has been dumbed down in recent years < 1369432009 116459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I hear that about everywhere < 1369432020 656374 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it doesn't say anything about the grad programs < 1369432029 866490 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also (allegedly, from travel reports) lots of esteemed guests at that ICSI side, so (again allegedly) one gets to meet a lot of people. < 1369432035 146446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1369432059 70528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird to me that Caltech is #11 in grad CS given how tiny and incomplete our CS dept was < 1369432073 246388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess for grad school you already know going in if that school does the particular stuff you want to do < 1369432087 367471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to study quantum computing it's probably one of the best places < 1369432185 856368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some of the complaints about the dumbing down of undergrad CS are sort of reactionary elitism that insists on teaching things that are irrelevant to most developers < 1369432204 400454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh CS shouldn't be just a vocational program, especially at top schools < 1369432216 456738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i dunno < 1369432321 766453 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's certainly a sense of dumbing-down of undergrad CS at our place too. < 1369432339 217683 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, since the only hard things in CS are naming things and cache coherency (or so I'm told), the bar is pretty low. < 1369432371 359266 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naming things is pretty hard, judging by how shittily most software is named < 1369432399 546479 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you pronounce the true name of a program, you can control it, isn't that how it works? < 1369432424 515220 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, also off by one errors < 1369432451 225342 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you're not allowed to "also" that one-liner -- i've tried, it doesn't work < 1369432464 652470 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"also the rest of CS" < 1369432488 688075 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, the joke goes "there are only two hard things in CS: naming things, cache coherency and off by one errors" < 1369432508 58128 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you write your name in the "I did my homework for the extra exam points" list of the Introduction to Theoretical Computer Science course with a pink glitter pen, you *will* be "randomly" picked to present one of the problems on the blackboard. (Empirical fact.) < 1369432509 633863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*A* joke goes that way. Not the one cpressey made. < 1369432512 517127 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, at least that is the variant I have heard < 1369432528 38051 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-198-39.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369432531 806792 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ha ha < 1369432537 608018 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION adds "jokes" to the list of hard things in CS
< 1369432553 459907 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, touché < 1369432557 347633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hehe < 1369432572 184927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bicycles are also hard things in cs < 1369432585 36737 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-198-39.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did the computer scientist travel a thousand miles with dodgy brakes? < 1369432589 746721 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(N=10 empirical fact, even.) < 1369432592 302216 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, there was a solution to the n-people k-bikes problem in the last sigbovik < 1369432599 284671 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-198-39.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They broke early on then he couldn't solve the halting problem. < 1369432600 927850 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than nine empirical? damn < 1369432623 411942 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's terrible < 1369432630 858296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sieve_of_Eratosthenes < 1369432633 347158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good Referer < 1369432637 752680 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, terrible but funny < 1369432649 963680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf? < 1369432691 967127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc? < 1369432711 597031 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :franz boas? < 1369432735 897068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :baller order abstract syntax < 1369432833 50366 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1369432943 107202 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I somehow read that as Balmer, as in the Microsoft guy < 1369432950 677189 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ballmer even < 1369432959 636529 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems < 1369432969 967229 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I read it as Balmer and I thought that was how he spelled his name < 1369432997 626958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know someone who was recruited by Microsoft and got a personal phone call from Ballmer < 1369433009 978156 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-198-39.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1369433027 358064 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hello?" "Developers! Developers! Developers!" < 1369433031 108325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fresh out of college < 1369433036 741128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1369433048 166931 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1369433068 467462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Also re the display thing, maybe you could buy a 15.4" MacBook Pro, fashion a stand out of the computer bits and wire the panel to a graphics card, and then you'll have a 15.4" 2880x1800 (220 ppi) desktop monitor. (Practical.) < 1369433104 709247 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I would have to buy several to create a small video wall or something < 1369433151 409561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1369433153 38761 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369433304 467395 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night < 1369433313 557510 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369433409 668337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night < 1369433619 772154 :wood!~root@85-30.196-178.cust.bluewin.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1369433626 411420 :wood!~root@85-30.196-178.cust.bluewin.ch NICK :trout < 1369433656 439979 :trout!~root@85-30.196-178.cust.bluewin.ch NICK :Guest14029 < 1369433668 689773 :Guest14029!~root@85-30.196-178.cust.bluewin.ch NICK :constant < 1369433672 828079 :constant!~root@85-30.196-178.cust.bluewin.ch QUIT :Changing host < 1369433673 27618 :constant!~root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1369434035 658628 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-121-65.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1369434582 878430 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.96.0.41 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1369435501 999531 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1369435584 350164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Predicted program for tomorrow: wake early, bicyclize for half an hour to get to the university to fetch a forgotten tablet, realize that someone has screwed up programming the keycard and/or weekend access requires the PIN code I've forgotten, mutter curses for a while, waste another half an hour getting back. < 1369435710 980972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1369435724 968519 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there not enough people around on weekends to get in another way? < 1369435754 760881 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I haven't tried very often. < 1369435779 195131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time to turn in last minute homework, I had to climb two stories down a rebar ladder in a pitch black ventilation shaft to break into the stairwell < 1369435799 159099 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the inner doors probably won't ask for the PIN, since they don't need keypads, so maybe it's enough if someone else happens to be going in/out. < 1369435817 939372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, s/need/have/. < 1369435820 188698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :steam tunnels were also useful for this purpose < 1369435938 759536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I want to do any especially impressive breaking-and-entering, given that it's not like I couldn't just wait until Monday. < 1369436906 389674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :college is about finding excuses for impressive breaking-and-entering < 1369437114 368990 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1369437785 140253 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a language I hate more than Java or PHP < 1369437798 488541 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl < 1369437811 395328 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CSS < 1369437863 260366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it? < 1369437927 756 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dealing with box models, divs that seem to eat margins of children despite google results suggesting they normally shouldn't, empty divs having a stylistic effect < 1369438051 465576 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually hate java or php. i vaguely despiser php, and am on speaking terms with java < 1369438052 190396 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Gloss (game library for Haskell) now supports arbitrary IO in games < 1369438063 900933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cutting edge < 1369438080 559716 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :despiser < 1369438101 974873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard for me to actively hate Java because I think the underlying ideas are pretty reasonable < 1369438114 941345 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should make a pipes thing for Gloss < 1369438117 520373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just missing some of the features you want to build a usable language around them < 1369438128 282958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe I don't hate Java but i would hate working in Java every day < 1369438186 656064 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :java would be great if it were smalltalk < 1369438196 728384 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :know any good smalltalk compilers for jvm? < 1369438197 226011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1369438214 403448 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :smalltalk would be great if it were simula < 1369438386 520756 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, are there any Javascript interpreters/compilers in Java? < 1369438520 989232 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a terrible idea < 1369438528 409466 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably) < 1369438607 651956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhino_(JavaScript_engine) < 1369438609 118823 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1ez1ce/the_shortest_crashing_c_program/ < 1369438612 241396 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see why it's a bad idea particularly < 1369438642 838292 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: warning: main is usually a function < 1369438870 79123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on some architectures 'main;' might not crash, or only sometimes < 1369439291 901119 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if there's a valid program at *0 < 1369439435 88872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't jump to address 0 < 1369439470 759584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it executes machine code consisting of sizeof(int) zeros followed by whatever's next in memory < 1369439591 112283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually there may be architectures where a function symbol is not located at the first instruction of the code but at some auxilary data structure < 1369439594 101483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ia64 < 1369439873 218643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also on a harvard architecture maybe it does something completely different and insane < 1369439898 883972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's a linker error < 1369439944 263919 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-143.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the C standard have a provision for crashing