< 1368922993 515001 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only assume that these commercials cost quite a bit more than usual < 1368924801 283887 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.81.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368925729 543875 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have to wait for November for new Doctor Who < 1368925730 219900 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1368925947 369982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i have to wait for november to not care about doctor who < 1368925976 269076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i care about doctor who so little that i don't even own a television < 1368925983 795415 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: maybe a time lord can help you with that < 1368925985 777901 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1368926028 79088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how long do you have to wait to not care about breaking bad < 1368926263 398661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forever < 1368926270 908526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will always care about brekaing bad < 1368926317 288244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the final batch of episodes starts August 11 < 1368926602 907881 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1368926976 929957 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1368927813 558148 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the kind of logic that corresponds to a SQL database? < 1368927996 121943 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-225-220.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivalent logic or something < 1368928285 728031 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1368928431 57052 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/ku-ma-me/20090916/p1 < 1368928465 414851 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368928894 270451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1368928917 342523 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-225-220.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that was a good quine < 1368929026 25241 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1368929907 295107 :aldousz!db5960a9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.219.89.96.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368929998 348610 :aldousz!db5960a9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.219.89.96.169 QUIT :Client Quit < 1368930116 652831 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it really a quine? < 1368930143 603486 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes please let's argue what does QUINE really mean < 1368930144 976998 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is ruby thatprogram.rb the same as thatprogram.rb, or is it different... < 1368930145 949141 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-225-220.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :suffer not the false quine to live < 1368930164 501667 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although then again, the composition of those interpreters+compilers... < 1368930171 953008 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's certainly a quine in that < 1368930342 959208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the notorious Q.U.I.N.E. < 1368930492 19381 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-225-220.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man quine should have rapped. i'd be so up for that. we need more rapping logicians. < 1368931202 296090 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1368932417 139107 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rage against the turing machine < 1368932740 794134 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about how to have some kind of logic, which has left conjunction, right conjunction, left disjunction, right disjunction, left implication, right implication, and neutral conjunction. What is this? < 1368933341 158194 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1368933359 941359 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1368933362 955319 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet NICK :Jafet < 1368934115 351863 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are your opinions about philosophy of science and related things? < 1368934239 947372 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and about philosophy in general? < 1368934964 268562 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own opinion is that mathematics is the real reality, not the "Real World Out There". < 1368935055 989013 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1368935083 196757 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's one way to say it < 1368935183 787545 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think, however, it's important to understand the meaning or implications of an equation or theorem, at least that's what i try to do. that can be difficult < 1368935200 281083 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel really low right now < 1368935210 900150 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you are hi. < 1368935240 325582 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know that feeling when you see a girl you like in a crowd and you feel you have to speak to her or you'll regret it for the rest of your life? well i didn't speak to her < 1368935331 828399 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That feeling isn't the case to me. < 1368935401 175942 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw her in a crowd at a live show friday night at UCSD < 1368935430 610769 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i stood right behind her for over an hour, the whole time we were grinding on each other. she was really really cute < 1368935463 749884 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :asian, about 5'6, ponytail, thin, high cheek bones < 1368935468 408969 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't "see a girl [I] like in a crowd and feel [I] have to speak to her". < 1368935485 965361 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right when i was going to make my move, her friend grabs her and she runs off < 1368935507 787335 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have really preferred being rejected < 1368935564 590570 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1368935581 41213 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :than to not know < 1368935599 312230 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1368935613 332993 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it zzo38 < 1368935624 500711 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sad, stop being impatient < 1368935638 210214 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not trying to be impatient. < 1368935645 478424 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you get that i feel like shit right now < 1368935656 823076 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that i liked this girl and i blew it, and i'll never see her again < 1368935669 951217 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's other fish in the sea, sure < 1368935684 388675 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i saw her and thought, this chick is special. you know how rare that is < 1368935706 254135 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I can understand is that you didn't like what happen. However, no, I don't know how rare or common it is. < 1368935767 168626 :BillyZane!~Billy@ip68-7-202-160.sd.sd.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's rare < 1368935971 784461 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1368936490 501966 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :watching this amazon comedy pilot about silicon valley < 1368936510 525919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If we don't capitalize soon we're going to end up working at your parents' bed and breakfast!" < 1368936516 397977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could get like... a regular programming job? < 1368936556 200450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it would be kind of cool if the show was about people who think they are startup geniuses but are actually totally unemployable < 1368936562 368949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :however I don't think that's what they're going for < 1368936618 360280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly it's about how nerds (male of course) can't talk to women, and other similarly fresh comedy themes < 1368937382 227197 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368937827 157801 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368939055 942961 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1368941205 100498 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be a regular programming job at his parents' bed-and-breakfast < 1368942236 89650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368946982 414290 :aldousz!db591a8f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.219.89.26.143 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368947046 193986 :aldousz!db591a8f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.219.89.26.143 QUIT :Client Quit < 1368948058 157985 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-133-30.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368951109 136653 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1368953026 206375 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-225-220.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1368953103 35196 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368955617 592952 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.81.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368956078 305511 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Bed and breakfast places don't need much programming though < 1368956592 910134 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be a silicon valley bed-and-breakfast < 1368956641 806646 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if it has robots serving people < 1368956679 978511 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to invest in the innkeeper's stock, but not to the point of buying out the entire place, unless you're Google < 1368957905 4252 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1368959824 393784 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-133-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, remember when you were making that Minecraft server in Haskell? < 1368960562 940286 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1368960637 5662 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Client Quit < 1368960659 930278 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368961020 634843 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.81.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368961254 438029 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1368961276 657153 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.81.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368962251 117452 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1368963464 23886 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368963478 266595 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368965125 755417 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@cust-208-22.on5.ontelecoms.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368965916 641169 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368966185 16286 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368967285 692404 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-133-30.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368967413 940596 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368968182 512279 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368969063 626799 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-133-30.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368969368 443587 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368970086 386047 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368970148 128133 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1368971140 639862 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368971202 169409 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1368972071 968435 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368972074 92283 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368972100 160087 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368972405 96846 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1368972828 238976 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was? < 1368974010 320274 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I crazy, or has github been down for nearly a whole day. < 1368974245 226422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Another crash happened while handling crash!" --Google Earth < 1368974307 352961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or http://sprunge.us/jXdW to be a bit more verbose.) < 1368974322 305427 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-133-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, I think you are crazy < 1368974844 894957 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does github not respond for me ._. < 1368974856 521735 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :status.github.com works and says it's up! < 1368976767 725838 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@178.128.91.150.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368977474 472158 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: also what about it; ion: yes < 1368977567 359165 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: there are plenty of plausible explanations that don't involve you being crazy < 1368977613 568186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: are you sure? < 1368977660 82111 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, are you? < 1368977664 895260 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Cool < 1368977669 330084 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes, are you? < 1368977688 703830 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still can't load github :( < 1368977689 53778 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Obviously. < 1368977706 662990 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-133-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, clear cache and refresh? < 1368977919 836834 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even switching browsers doesn't make it load. < 1368977927 450334 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won't even load in lynx. < 1368977937 876302 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :`host github.com < 1368977942 303839 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: host: not found < 1368977946 244095 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feh < 1368978005 38658 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-133-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contact your DNS? < 1368978030 463491 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me what IP address github should resolve to ^^ < 1368978045 365548 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, 's not a DNS issue. < 1368978048 645534 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :My DNS and 8.8.8.8 agree. < 1368978058 51277 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-133-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISP? < 1368978060 101125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your DNS is being mitm'd < 1368978137 939285 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :204.232.175.90 here < 1368978143 419991 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also getting 204.232.175.90 < 1368978146 568703 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it loads? X-D < 1368978153 658302 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1368978156 725629 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Comcast blocking github? X-D < 1368978164 490075 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They may be, accidentally. < 1368978173 778931 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably, it's like filled with virus linux stuff < 1368978175 660873 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mistakes with routing happen. < 1368978187 55712 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "hacker tools" < 1368978498 973027 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF, it loads fine through school. < 1368978514 792527 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it really is just my home connection. < 1368978515 901987 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dahell. < 1368978616 454808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you have THE VIRUS. < 1368978621 612328 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear that's usually the case. < 1368980172 336391 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@178.128.91.150.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368981485 230651 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you tried turning it off and on again? < 1368981896 25331 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure github are willing to turn off github to help debug Gregor's internet problem < 1368982119 711714 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, found this comment in an old program I wrote: "It's essentially an implementation of APL's encode function (T), [...]" < 1368982126 93990 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently I once knew APL < 1368982139 589739 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1368982144 469840 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tragic < 1368982365 465512 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once knew ruby < 1368982395 189890 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once knew Yorick. < 1368982452 44412 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368982498 856711 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-133-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once knew how to make awesome palindromes. < 1368982505 135339 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1368982552 599813 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know how to make awesome palindromes semord nilape mose wa ekam ot wohw onki. < 1368983476 897859 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: did you also know how to make awesome palindromes containing the word palindrome? < 1368983836 64569 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tacocat < 1368983896 139596 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A man, a plan, a canoe, pasta, heros, rajahs, a coloratura, maps, snipe, percale, macaroni, a gag, a banana bag, a tan, a tag, a banana bag again (or a camel), a crepe, pins, Spam, a rut, a Rolo, cash, a jar, sore hats, a peon, a canal – Panama! < 1368983919 556944 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368983920 933024 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> reverse "A man, a plan, a canoe, pasta, heros, rajahs, a coloratura, maps, snipe, percale, macaroni, a gag, a banana bag, a tan, a tag, a banana bag again (or a camel), a crepe, pins, Spam, a rut, a Rolo, cash, a jar, sore hats, a peon, a canal – Panama!" < 1368983921 147355 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character) < 1368983929 150848 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> reverse "A man, a plan, a canoe, pasta, heros, rajahs, a coloratura, maps, snipe, percale, macaroni, a gag, a banana bag, a tan, a tag, a banana bag again (or a camel), a crepe, pins, Spam, a rut, a Rolo, cash, a jar, sore hats, a peon, a canal - Panama!" < 1368983930 862775 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "!amanaP - lanac a ,noep a ,stah eros ,raj a ,hsac ,oloR a ,tur a ,mapS ,sn... < 1368983997 520937 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-133-30.as13285.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1368983999 630191 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fantastic < 1368984001 48954 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1368984123 860714 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLIPPY < 1368984131 529376 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.smore.com/clippy-js < 1368984538 530793 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368984938 168165 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1368986691 754493 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, oh god < 1368986730 177956 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 Clippy < 1368986769 931123 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Azerbaijan the only Eurovision winner to share a border with Iran? < 1368986784 611951 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#important questions < 1368986815 495635 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, really? < 1368986817 118122 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1368986820 190220 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Turkey won in 2003. < 1368986826 430550 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1368986830 581599 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#important answers < 1368986837 23822 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a chat program that used Microsoft Agent < 1368986847 634952 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked the song from Greece this time around. It was funky. < 1368986849 567893 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd mess with people by sending the sleeping animation, the agent wouldn't wake up < 1368986860 597244 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got banned from ... talking to a bot, I think, that's kind of weird < 1368986955 248249 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is armenia in the EU? probably not < 1368986970 237410 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, what < 1368986993 966454 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, Israel isn't even in Europe, yet they are in eurovision. Wtf < 1368987003 452052 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I found Creatures because of the (tenuous connection) fact that they both use the word 'agent' < 1368987011 494071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to be "in Europe", you just need to be in EBU. < 1368987015 523861 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yeah that happens with a lot of europe things. < 1368987025 81957 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically lolisrael. < 1368987041 107265 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the EBU seems to include, like, libya. < 1368987080 799640 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Tunisia. < 1368987114 936076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And I guess Algeria too. Guess all that coast is "good enough".) < 1368987125 373864 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "associated members" seems to include pretty much everything < 1368987131 623480 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, morroco participated < 1368987139 477720 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 1980 only though < 1368987142 941459 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EBU_Member.svg < 1368987146 690525 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morocco has applied to join the EU < 1368987153 350886 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Israel has, too < 1368987166 697593 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Cape Verde < 1368987180 103377 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love the ebu < 1368987186 461580 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tunisia was to perform fourth in the 1977 Contest's running order. The reason for the country's withdrawal was never officially established; rumours suggest ERTT did not want to compete with Israel" < 1368987204 596474 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the bureaucratic overmind in the shadows behind eurovision < 1368987215 251378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The official rules of the Eurovision Song Contest are long, technical, and ever-changing," starts the Wikipedia article about them. < 1368987226 536846 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm scotland tried to enter < 1368987232 663844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, there's no [weasel words] or any other tags there. < 1368987232 860964 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1 reason for independence right there < 1368987246 53500 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what if there is a tie? < 1368987264 968971 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the EBU is dissolved and the soviet union takes over broadcasting powers in eurasia < 1368987289 888878 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "The current tie-breaking rule is that, in the event that two or more countries tie for first place and for other places the song that received points from the greater number of countries is the winner. This system is sometimes called the "count-back". If there is still a tie, the second tie-breaker is to count the number of countries who assigned twelve points to each entry in the tie. Tie-breaks continue with ten points, eight points, and so on < 1368987313 66141 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really get the EU anyway. I mean Cyprus. What's going on there. < 1368987313 280171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There was a tie in 1991, with a slightly different rule in place then.) < 1368987354 153407 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, Cyprus asked nicely < 1368987404 315797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, they had a four-way tie in 1969, and declared all four winners. < 1368987436 380196 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember the year wogan left < 1368987444 575359 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, heh < 1368987451 665485 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the darkest year in eurovision history < 1368987465 491921 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I don't remember that, what was that about? < 1368987485 97970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember watching the 2003 contest, when Turkey won by a margin of 2; nothing else about it, except that small margin. We all were certainly on the edges of our seats! < 1368987498 526451 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after like the 4th year in a row where the contest was won through bloc voting he basically just upped and left < 1368987508 556692 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they replaced him with graham norton who was just not the same < 1368987512 10017 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, I haven't watched since the previous time it was in Sweden. < 1368987517 383494 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that is like 10 years ago? < 1368987521 91737 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...no < 1368987525 344894 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 or 6 < 1368987531 766707 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay maybe the time before that then < 1368987534 412628 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he only did the commentary in the uk and maybe ireland < 1368987541 509939 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk what shithead you had in sweden < 1368987565 902709 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.130.90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1368987569 89185 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1368987583 887694 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was in Sweden in 1999, and then in 2012. < 1368987594 371895 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the Finnish commentary is always pretty awful. < 1368987606 952005 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, 2013* < 1368987610 438546 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I watched in 1999 and now again in 2013 < 1368987616 124193 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 1993 the presenter was one "Fionnuala Sweeney" < 1368987622 920478 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even < 1368987628 630757 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, nice name < 1368987640 682498 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Right, sorry, 2000 and 2013; I was stating Swedish winner years. < 1368987645 786670 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pronounced finooleh, apparently < 1368987651 667202 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ah < 1368987665 966032 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, so even more than 5 or 6 years then < 1368987667 788690 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did lordi win < 1368987670 21431 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked lordi < 1368987671 898255 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :13 years < 1368987685 456055 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover 2006 < 1368987688 244510 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, the UK singer was pretty horrible IMO. < 1368987696 44282 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a good singing voice at all < 1368987697 112195 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same year as Lithuania entered with "We are the winners" < 1368987710 623699 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, it's pretty much traditional that the UK sucks < 1368987713 198094 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaict the uk strategy is now "pick some long-forgotten star of yesteryear and have them sing generic crap" < 1368987714 755989 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1368987725 220968 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1368987731 288386 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really the Greek contribution was the best by far. < 1368987735 266964 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1368987744 953834 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean they got bonnie tyler this year and for fuck's sake, if you're going to get bonnie tyler go the whole hog and do the whole overwrought 80s thing < 1368987764 475741 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, who would you have chosen? < 1368987770 736316 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://storify.com/thomas_wiegold/esc-2013-syria-angle/embed i think this is the msot i know of eurovision < 1368987782 805216 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it was so sad when benedict cumberbatch lost < 1368987796 951779 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god dammit why didn't i think of that joke at the time < 1368987797 876644 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, unfortunately the american @ < 1368987799 868479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so mad at myself < 1368987804 999043 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1368987809 348199 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he not apply then < 1368987811 922618 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that `the joke' < 1368987815 190233 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the joke is it was engelbert humperdinck < 1368987827 519105 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sounds like someone making fun of benedict cumberbatch's name < 1368987866 300976 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :q ffor british people: does cumberbatch actually exist or is he just a joke < 1368987873 213413 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i don't think cumberbatch would make it through due to the american ~geek~ market not having a vote < 1368987879 508298 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fucking americans) < 1368987880 422943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: he's a character created by a popular comedian < 1368987881 997025 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, nobody knows < 1368987907 896093 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh please not the eurovision < 1368987908 801979 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1368987909 13701 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i remember when doctor who was sincerely naff) < 1368987914 79341 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :engelbert humperdinck isn't his real name < 1368987916 385878 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that totally ruins it < 1368987922 359733 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking of http://www.theonion.com/video/meet-the-man-inside-the-nicolas-cage-costume,27318/ here < 1368987929 411281 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean < 1368987931 693448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he stole it from a real guy < 1368987932 334451 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am deeply ashamed by the kid we sent < 1368987932 696156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still < 1368987960 950984 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Phantom_Hoover, I remember when they worked out he was really dead because his star was still intact because they used it to kill a cyberman) < 1368987981 544814 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, who are the "we" here < 1368987994 845860 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the beligians < 1368988000 382223 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Belgians < 1368988001 562260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the belligerents < 1368988013 381317 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :belgerients < 1368988014 845098 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, eh I don't even remember their thing < 1368988018 58051 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Hey, you made it to the finals. < 1368988023 297651 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: good! < 1368988024 172917 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, anyway the Greek were by far best < 1368988028 6169 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, agree? < 1368988035 11583 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.81.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368988038 202707 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea, haven't seen them < 1368988044 268191 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, my dad says nicolas cage is 'the best actor of his generation' trufax < 1368988050 890409 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, didn't watch eurovision? < 1368988052 651109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greece had the "free booze" song. < 1368988052 923790 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Nigel Farage, leader of the UK Independence Party, cracked to the outlet: “I am delighted that the Eurocrats have failed to crush national stereotyping, which is what makes Europe a great continent."» Q for british people: does europe actually exist or is it just a joke < 1368988063 312292 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, UKIP < 1368988076 426508 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I didn't actually go through that torture < 1368988081 524873 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, UKIP, I am afraid, very much does exist, much as we'd like it not to < 1368988124 62894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland was third-last, which I think is quite average for us. < 1368988145 631293 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest, eh I had fun with a couple of friends, riffing on the bad singing. One of my friends is an actual musician (working as a software engineer nowdays, pretty good at both though). So he had fun telling the rest of us how they performed technically < 1368988150 631180 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most were pretty bad < 1368988209 382127 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree, it can be humorous at times, although I get annoyed too much to enjoy those times < 1368988209 618479 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Denmark and Azerbaijan both won their respective semi-finals, and were #1 and #2 in the final, so I guess people have at least been reasonably consistent. < 1368988228 241753 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: he is! < 1368988239 147302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: name a single actor you would be sadder about dying < 1368988255 674776 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ian McKellen < 1368988264 361445 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, tom hanks! < 1368988268 123957 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zachary Quinto < 1368988269 61254 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd be sad if tom hanks died < 1368988272 661224 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.81.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368988280 216619 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/GhAAB5N.jpg soviets: stay out of portland, bastards < 1368988283 980586 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1368988287 197269 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, is Tom Hanks the Mission Impossible guy or the Forest Gump guy < 1368988296 423669 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the forrest gump guy < 1368988324 763829 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's pretty cool < 1368988337 147488 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's the mission impossible guy? < 1368988343 218549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i think the correct answer was probably bill murray < 1368988347 578134 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the scientologist < 1368988352 663227 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhh what's his actual name help < 1368988360 471627 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: tom hanks < 1368988364 516858 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two < 1368988368 547080 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no the other guy < 1368988372 917135 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...is tom hanks a scientologist < 1368988373 532274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the people who know they're going to have to be arranging the whole thing if their country wins try to vote for the most promising competitor, just in case that'd help. < 1368988378 121655 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i mean the other guy < 1368988381 105701 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i said, there's two < 1368988391 574025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Cruise Missile. < 1368988397 967207 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah cruise < 1368988415 88106 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok look the reason it would be worst if tom hanks died is because he is doing a tv series of american gods sometime soon < 1368988439 313700 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is bill murray doing a tv series of american gods sometime soon? a: no < 1368988466 887787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an Angry Birds animated series nowadays, something I learned the other day. (Makes sense.) < 1368988476 38330 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, imagine if Greece had won, they couldn't have afforded it < 1368988496 816627 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Having a zero-budget version could've been rather interesting, though. < 1368988500 61791 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal please don't ever do jokes < 1368988525 889236 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah, sure, host it in a barn somewhere, put up a couple of spotlights, and that's it < 1368988546 963369 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone's dad's old camera phone for the video stream. < 1368988556 387698 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly < 1368988579 103947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does VGA-resolution video, that's pretty respectable. < 1368988589 152357 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1368988598 840870 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 800x600 VGA? I forget < 1368988623 837638 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vector_Video_Standards2.svg <-- pretty crazy < 1368988624 35243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :640x480. < 1368988667 281014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The megapixel curves are nice. < 1368988680 918052 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :My work monitors are WUXGA it seems, and I'm currently using a WSXGA+ < 1368988685 930415 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cga is good < 1368988720 958753 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:9? What < 1368988749 37318 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that is not right < 1368988758 490094 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The graph doesn't quite have the full list, anyway. < 1368988763 355025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No FWQVGA or whatnot. < 1368988765 581688 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :17 is... not a factor of 2048 < 1368988775 730900 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2048 / 17 < 1368988778 9139 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 120.47058823529412 < 1368988820 419383 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to have a 5:3 monitor at one point, think it was 1280x768 < 1368988834 677620 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or wait no, it wasn't < 1368988845 550534 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1368988857 355548 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah actually it was < 1368988866 63789 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also had a SXGA+ at one point < 1368988889 52095 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a 1280x1024 screen, that's 5:4; it's kind of the strange exception from 4:3 in the "standard" list of resolutions. < 1368988907 82857 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, had one of those too < 1368988907 280556 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm does this involve smooth numbers, like old music < 1368988920 821961 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a 1600x768 screen, that's 25:12 and pretty awesome < 1368988934 361298 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, that is not even listed < 1368988946 335127 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still 5-smooth < 1368988946 830793 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a netbook < 1368988963 699691 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember a 1440x1024 one? < 1368988981 829569 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, 1440x1280 < 1368988983 625232 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my netbook is uh... 128:75. ok < 1368988988 531368 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1368988995 906907 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: woot? < 1368989003 672284 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too lazy to calculate 1440x1280 < 1368989004 686241 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woot < 1368989010 443490 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1440 % 1280 < 1368989014 97658 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `%' < 1368989014 308004 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `R.%' (imported from Data.Ratio) < 1368989020 154662 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well it's 9:8 < 1368989023 997579 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :25:12 is like "yeah, 4:3 on the left and two terminals on the rright" < 1368989036 430388 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f u haskell more like where are my ratios skell < 1368989044 852657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're in R. < 1368989052 565745 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, heh < 1368989057 37668 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but irrationals are also in R!!!! < 1368989061 405802 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1440 R.% 1280 < 1368989064 512998 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9 % 8 < 1368989066 927389 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1368989071 661062 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a nice monitor < 1368989075 40971 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Acer iirc+ < 1368989081 339152 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9:8 sounds pretty crazy < 1368989082 575934 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1600 R.% 900 < 1368989084 851505 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 16 % 9 < 1368989085 330682 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1368989088 988970 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was obvious < 1368989090 576555 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1024 R.% 600 -- mine < 1368989093 770786 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 128 % 75 < 1368989132 296651 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(still 5-smooth) < 1368989132 553422 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of which, what good monitor brands/models are there? I want a good pair for a dual screen setup but not super-expensive. 16:10 < 1368989166 949223 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tried of having to use books to get my monitor the right height, so I want proper adjustable stands < 1368989175 499517 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thinking about syncmaster, are they still good? < 1368989185 999720 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had one ages ago that was nice < 1368989194 53075 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1368989204 298868 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way: what the fuck is wrong with sony? they made the vaio duo with an OPTICAL TRACK POINT < 1368989218 222352 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically a miniature touchpad in the middle of the keyboard < 1368989222 142019 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1368989222 600842 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what.the.fuck. < 1368989233 474528 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, proper track point is far better < 1368989236 389097 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would guess < 1368989256 648939 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't beat a proper trackpoint on a laptop, far superior to touchpads < 1368989259 191323 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is. < 1368989259 844305 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it more of an inverted optical mouse than a miniature touchpad, though? < 1368989273 264365 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, when I first started playing Minecraft, I played with one hand < 1368989292 424488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not going to ask what the other hand was doing. < 1368989294 461730 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I was playing with voicechat, and the only decent mic I could find was handheld < 1368989296 308670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm just going to imply.) < 1368989297 859814 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well yeah < 1368989302 340708 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's like hell < 1368989307 58378 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like a trackpoint on my desktop keyboard, for quick mouse usage that doesn't require the precision of a normal mouse < 1368989330 455731 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't even move from one side of the monitor to the other < 1368989341 844178 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, didn't try before you bought? < 1368989343 752228 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't seen that many standalone trackballs around recently. < 1368989355 467244 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368989373 248747 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i did, that's the reason i hadn't bought it < 1368989383 413612 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, ah good < 1368989386 589708 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm looking for a replacement of my netbook and haven't found one yet < 1368989412 478012 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, I would generally recommend thinkpads for good portable computers, but not sure about netbooks < 1368989416 105093 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the X-series? < 1368989425 589956 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am really disappointed by thinkpads < 1368989428 554858 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1368989438 980151 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love mine, a bit old now, Core 2 Duo < 1368989440 36238 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicomp sell keyboards with trackpoints < 1368989441 584744 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are either pretty large (>12") or have a crappy resolution < 1368989454 267451 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or used to < 1368989467 18256 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, yeah I have a 15.4", because I actually want to use it for stuff, I have large hands < 1368989482 162079 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no real reason, imo < 1368989487 682154 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want something to take with me < 1368989490 309307 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1368989496 687296 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my netbook has a pretty large keyboard actually < 1368989498 259537 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used mine while at university < 1368989504 831218 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, full size keys? < 1368989518 97503 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't use anything less < 1368989548 53862 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll check < 1368989570 606492 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, on a normal keyboard I can comfortably reach left ctrl-p with my right hand. Can't quite do that on this MS Natural Keyboard I'm using < 1368989574 609789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also weird thing: the local hardware (as in, non-computer such) store had switched to a Torx screw heads for all the "generic" screws they sold. < 1368989589 66665 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like Ctrl-u with this < 1368989609 205894 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.3x1.2 cm with 0.3 cm space between the keys < 1368989639 634948 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, so slightly smaller than full size then, just enough to throw off blind typing < 1368989653 680638 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: torx is supposed to be good for something, isn't it? < 1368989659 258296 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's my only device with a keyboard so i can type pretty easy < 1368989675 16970 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah you would get used to it < 1368989682 905448 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe they just realized they have a higher markup on torx drivers and wanted to force everyone to get new stuff from them < 1368989698 145250 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, I couldn't live without a large monitor to fill with windows. I use a 3-monitor setup at work < 1368989740 30709 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well, i can have 6 terminals with 87x31 chars < 1368989749 873038 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1368989750 858072 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's enough for me < 1368989777 308234 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368989784 720522 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: For torque, I would assume. < 1368989796 427484 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, it doesn't slip < 1368989804 635404 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is pretty nice < 1368989806 603533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The screw of the future. < 1368989818 60143 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :torx is pretty nice actually < 1368989822 366522 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screw the Future: Torx < 1368989840 894539 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure how much s torx screw costs compared to a normal one < 1368989862 489046 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least i never managed to destroy a sinle one < 1368989865 369960 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they had really changed prices at the same time. < 1368989872 835910 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kill other screws all the time < 1368989890 26513 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm sure it's all nice, just most of my screwdrivers are old-fashioned. < 1368989899 508972 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :" The official generic name, standardized by the International Organization for Standardization as ISO 10664, is hexalobular internal." < 1368989900 629619 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1368989929 124374 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- often referred to by the original proprietary brand name Torx (pronounced "torks") or by the alternate generic name star drive --" yeah, I can see why people'd prefer a star drive. < 1368989933 670243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds p. fancy. < 1368989984 53642 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ooh, here's the part where they do countries and numbers in french again <- roajåm yni, di poä < 1368990011 532390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I watch it solely for the french points. < 1368990041 847075 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION _actually_ only remembers roajåm yni from eurovision and doesn't know how it's properly spelled
< 1368990059 385136 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also lazerbaijan < 1368990079 62211 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what country is that? < 1368990084 800020 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: uk < 1368990156 192910 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I thought they'd use l'anglais for that < 1368990163 89827 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also lø pej pa < 1368990190 333496 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i suspect the scottish would quickly complain if they did that < 1368990203 975926 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect the french wouldn't care :) < 1368990248 149744 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it l'angleterre? < 1368990266 140037 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the slanted earth? < 1368990268 855753 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: perhaps. < 1368990320 741203 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why have i not seen more angle/angle puns... < 1368990333 730184 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, because they are terrible? < 1368990354 627033 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but that's true of puns in general and yet here we are < 1368990367 556867 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :touché < 1368990374 200830 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :angle angle angle < 1368990377 834568 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :angle, angle < 1368990380 392005 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1368990415 286136 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1368990420 907570 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lø pej ba < 1368990440 111702 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the answer that we call all those guys "anglos" now < 1368990468 334622 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: angle buffalo? < 1368990471 462600 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :angle < 1368990472 449383 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :non angles sed anglos < 1368990479 466024 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :angle saxons < 1368990513 139995 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angles !!!!! < 1368990529 31960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're an angle, imho < 1368990591 991308 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1368990606 845487 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«“Bene, nam et angelicam habent faciem, et tales angelorum in caelis decet esse coheredes” ("It is well, for they have an angelic face, and such people ought to be co-heirs of the angels in heaven")» lol wow. < 1368990904 57472 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : No, I mean, the whole point is to vote for neighbor countries and such. <-- hm which of the neighbors was the only one to vote for estonia again... < 1368990946 394568 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely think it was latvia, but maybe it was finland < 1368991096 689936 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : in any case there are so many ways you could define it that mandating any particular one would be silly <-- "the determinant of a (square) matrix is a number satisfying any of the following equivalent properties ..." hth < 1368991159 848612 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately doing that on a test increases your chances of getting one of them wrong, i guess < 1368991341 562312 :augur!~augur@c-69-138-251-193.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368991356 673281 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1368991650 474693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think we've historically given Estonia at least some amount of points; only 6 this year, though. (Our 8 went to Netherlands, and 10 to Hungary, but at least the 12 went to Norway.) < 1368991682 501192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3 from Lithuania to Estonia.) < 1368991693 334106 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i'm used to it all being arbitrary fields <-- i think determinants can even be done over commutative rings (the commutativity is necessary, though) < 1368991712 150788 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1368991722 231430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, Estonia's entire points this year: 3 from Lithuania, 6 from Finland, 10 from Latvia. < 1368991729 381450 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the neighbour-voting's going strong. < 1368991746 243349 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe not as strong as sometimes, but still.) < 1368991747 649094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :voting rings :O < 1368991770 885582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :greegan < 1368991774 369210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are they commutative? < 1368991779 976617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear that's necessary to determine what they are. < 1368991784 658308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask oerjan for details. < 1368991800 635771 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1368991808 810243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, /hilight < 1368991857 405444 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1368991878 696849 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you highlight on hichaf? < 1368991894 516960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /hilight on chaf\b < 1368991919 138548 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you /hichaf? < 1368991920 42832 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly i search the logs for rjan, but i haven't bothered changing client highlighting. < 1368991924 652552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should hilight on \Spuns\b too. < 1368991944 917156 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1368991953 843638 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[Torx] was developed in 1967 by Camcar Textron." (emphasis mine) I thought that was someone's name. < 1368991975 299845 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm camcar textron < 1368991976 503844 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :örjan, So you don't highlight on this then? < 1368991980 329719 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ^ < 1368991980 978283 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(occasionally someone does the weird thing and turns the oe into some stupid unicode character from latin-1, imagine why...) < 1368991990 671890 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ørjan I guess < 1368992002 92621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ørrr, said the bear. < 1368992007 507303 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1368992008 163033 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no. actually i'm on webchat right now so i'm not even keeping settings. < 1368992071 440311 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh right. estonia got their first points so late, i didn't notice they got any further after that. < 1368992096 368433 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the Z-machine, the mouse can have up to sixteen buttons, and is possible to not have any buttons at all, is also allowed. < 1368992160 778995 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: dörmögő dömötör < 1368992175 109374 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, sounds Icelandic < 1368992207 585670 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: hungarian actually < 1368992216 311775 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1368992222 219957 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it mean < 1368992228 27789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to guess Hungarian, based on the ő, but was just looking if they have an ö too. < 1368992234 717543 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%B6rm%C3%B6g%C5%91_D%C3%B6m%C3%B6t%C3%B6r < 1368992249 430770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice encoding. < 1368992302 967608 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah they do < 1368992307 415266 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mom had a sample of the magazine when she was learning hungarian < 1368992325 574402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The Z-machine is good. < 1368992329 570193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ö is to ő as o is to ó < 1368992350 260300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does ȯ fit into it < 1368992357 169492 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc the words mean "grumbling bear" or thereabouts. except perhaps with whatever bears do instead of grumbling. < 1368992376 861208 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, roar? < 1368992381 713229 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may be < 1368992401 69340 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also growl. < 1368992407 590395 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm okay < 1368992426 909095 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure they don't howl or purr though < 1368992431 477633 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They moan, bark, huff, growl and roar, according to Wikipedia. (What wouldn't it know.) < 1368992446 409417 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm if i am to believe google translate it's "growling demetrius" < 1368992448 622040 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it's not claiming that as an exclusive list. < 1368992481 542371 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, heh < 1368992531 588457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/g2/d/24470-2/p1150577.jpg <- bear. < 1368992533 637383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :preved medved < 1368992604 200904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xn--nxa.zem.fi/g2/d/24467-2/p1150573.jpg <- maybe the same bear? < 1368992606 553199 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the hugs project still alive? < 1368992610 669732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's through a restaurant window.) < 1368992624 705445 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It was that bear burger place.) < 1368992659 819346 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, do you mean bear meat in the burger? < 1368992668 618772 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just themed? < 1368992680 464678 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: last i heard there had been no update for years. after ghci got good enough, it just took over. < 1368992696 504295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :β.zem.fi < 1368992703 688088 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, sad that there is only one de facto implementation of haskell nowdays < 1368992719 685327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Well, who can say? Cf. http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2013-05-14#070135fizzie < 1368992723 293635 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, chrome displays that as xn--nxa < 1368992740 765482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It displays as β.zem.fi if you add Greek to the list of languages you know. :p < 1368992749 490601 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, heh < 1368992754 760329 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1368992786 13011 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just an anti-phishing feature. < 1368992789 390425 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't Hugs written in C though? It would help, if Hugs is capable of running GHC. < 1368992795 887127 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I'm not sure it makes sense to display these as xn-- variants, that is going to confuse most non-tech-savy people < 1368992796 753180 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've done that, and all it got me was a "this browser is unique" result in Panopticlick.) < 1368992814 373548 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hugs cannot run ghc, no. < 1368992819 286486 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, right < 1368992824 398771 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I guess I've missed about 15 minutes of your banter now < 1368992827 309076 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Then it isn't very good. < 1368992835 471335 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The idea is that it prevents phishing by way of internationalized domains that *look* like something else. < 1368992844 368744 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point < 1368992849 91053 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's ghc which uses too many of its own extensions to be compiled with anything else. < 1368992856 216968 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Random gibberish" is better than actively misleading domains. < 1368992857 9726 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, mine is unique too < 1368992871 764249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently "en-US,en;q=0.8,fi;q=0.6,el;q=0.4" is an unique Accept-Language list. < 1368992880 142064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just disable internationalized domains < 1368992889 944125 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, My plugin list is unqiue < 1368992891 161602 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Can you not set up the Accept-Language list separately from those? < 1368992910 978441 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :text/html, */* ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.3 gzip,deflate,sdch en-US,en;q=0.8,sv;q=0.6,en-GB;q=0.4 is unique too < 1368992913 400930 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Not from the regular settings dialog, at least. < 1368992919 179648 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdch? < 1368992925 721788 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speedy, maybe? < 1368992936 34407 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh maybe < 1368992936 371095 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, not Speedy. < 1368992945 132232 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, sounds like bears have roughly the same set of sounds as dogs < 1368992945 441053 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Shared Dictionary Compression over HTTP" instead. < 1368992948 151331 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1368992955 849151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the "sd" part could've been that. < 1368992961 475194 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.xn--pypal-4ve.com/ is a shit-load better. < 1368992969 296918 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, think that is generally spdy < 1368992985 56437 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you prefer english to finnish? < 1368993026 882399 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you? < 1368993041 674351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Certainly. I mean... Finnish. < 1368993048 613933 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are too many haskell json libraries < 1368993058 478022 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well yes, but i think i still have norwegian first < 1368993060 257968 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, aseson is the cool one < 1368993063 621357 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they must be culled < 1368993070 923702 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*aeson < 1368993078 402991 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna leave and never come back now < 1368993081 517577 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodbye < 1368993084 315937 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aeson isn't simple enough < 1368993090 665377 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-181-122.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: I'll miss you, IRC < 1368993095 981210 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems more optimised for speed than simplicity < 1368993114 218116 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope this is just a ploy to get time for his evil world takeover, and not something serious. < 1368993119 553645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The worst thing is that I get a lot of Swedish due to the IPv6 tunnel (with an endpoint in Sweden) and geoip things. I mean... Swedish. < 1368993126 62908 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the kolmogorov complexity of json < 1368993151 986164 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368993157 388639 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: 5 < 1368993159 898741 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: svenska är slik en ljuvliga språk, nej? < 1368993161 780602 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1368993171 37172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Slick and lightlike, yes. < 1368993196 986590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :svenska ärn't slik < 1368993201 243460 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368993213 74158 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be improve if, you write something like: /https?:\/\/(.*\.)?wikipedia\.org\// { Accept-Language: "en-US,en;q=0.8,fi;q=0.6,el;q=0.4"; internationalized_domains=true; } else /telnet:\/\/(.*)(|:[0-9]+)\/?/ { ...... < 1368993247 251003 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IKEA has a chair called POÄNG, I can never not think of the Eurovision when coming across that. < 1368993257 50016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"POÄNG makes relaxing easy." < 1368993303 209077 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poäng douze points < 1368993311 674280 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be better if everything the browser does is overridden by configuration files like this < 1368993339 35643 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I want to do is try to extract two values from a json string, with some error handling < 1368993350 237423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: should i learn norwegian instead of finnish < 1368993388 85956 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: next year, sit down in your POÄNG and watch eurovision on your UPPLEVA hth < 1368993413 802077 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368993421 771641 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: My BESTÅ/UPPLEVA, I suppose. < 1368993422 91885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any version of SQL which can create anonymous tables/views/etc and store their reference in a table, and to create a view to override an existing table/view and then allow the override to be removed later? < 1368993422 611048 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, you're stuck with finnish now hth, although you can do swedish also < 1368993440 48031 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, why am I stuck with Finnish? < 1368993448 862579 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And furthermore to allow creating and dropping tables/views/index/triggers/etc inside of a trigger? < 1368993479 272123 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Did you know you live on an IKEA thing? < 1368993479 898668 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: in the next two to the vice president of the as gets exercised an option. regents of the lunch. eric t. 06, 2000 < 1368993489 783654 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it was a side effect of the papers you had to sign to get away from the finnish army hth < 1368993513 997219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're in a LERBERG hth. < 1368993514 597469 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are we meeting that little trading operation of the new) and danno b(alchemy) 9 of the ena and affiliated, are forbidden by will mcnamara of dow k to your information. < 1368993515 321371 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the part in tiny, finnish script < 1368993527 525819 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you find such features of SQL to be useful? < 1368993571 709155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow IKEA sells TVs now? < 1368993595 199880 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They sell an EXPERIENCE. < 1368993622 499481 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 70 people said they would show up to bayhac today and only ~30 people showed up but there is 70 people's worth of pizza < 1368993629 500571 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nirvana < 1368993631 43030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :exciting < 1368993659 718365 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Perhaps you can save it for later, then, or in case some people want more pizza they can have it, especially in case there are also some people who don't want pizza < 1368993670 954993 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you understand pizza < 1368993675 657246 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fizzie was actually making a pun hth < 1368993699 339831 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly ikea was too < 1368993700 837941 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you cn send me the pizza < 1368993705 19298 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*can < 1368993735 753603 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm hungary too. < 1368993750 20013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the joke is that when we had too much pizza at boston haskell kmc took the leftovers home < 1368993752 99838 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you should czech that out < 1368993765 23756 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want pizza < 1368993768 941684 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1368993780 410439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: solution: move to america?? the inventors of pizza hth < 1368993855 449746 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt shachaf dooms himself by angering the napolitan mafia < 1368993929 369929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did itt migrate to oerjan via kmc or another path < 1368993958 350432 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i definitely noticed kmc using it < 1368993972 599645 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll either use AttoJSON or hjpath < 1368994015 878661 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has shitty meme absorbing powers.
< 1368994031 467527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't they sell no-cheese pizza here? They had a lot of that going on in e.g. Sorrento, Italy, Italy. (To differentiate from Sorrento, Italy, Some State, US, which I'm sure exists; I understand every place is duplicated there.) < 1368994041 253422 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's (shitty meme) absorbing powers, not shitty (meme absorbing powers), but you already knew that. < 1368994069 708611 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if it's both < 1368994088 336745 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt FreeFull gets swatted ----### hth < 1368994094 746410 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1368994096 366039 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+- < 1368994110 601303 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blame webchat, or this keyboard. < 1368994155 237220 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1368994183 350728 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that swat was only because i instinctively connect F_F_ with swattability hth < 1368994207 880597 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*F.*F.* < 1368994235 861903 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so turns out split epicity of block maps between sofic shifts is decidable < 1368994242 780947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick FizzFie < 1368994250 511825 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that awesome < 1368994264 470530 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc i used to announce results here at some point? < 1368994272 446081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw it and it was good. < 1368994274 549671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1368994277 359546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you also connect chaf\b with swattability < 1368994280 629071 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that is possible < 1368994293 194919 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no hth < 1368994301 852924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: swat me hth < 1368994309 640397 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no more than normal < 1368994350 788410 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least when i was doing my master's degree i recall that you broke an early proof sketch of my main result without admitting that you understood what it was about < 1368994373 771739 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :‘run for f in wisdom/*; do sed -i 's/dal/dahl/g' "$f"; done < 1368994374 769990 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi NICK :FunFot < 1368994376 319372 :FunFot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm swattable! < 1368994383 288513 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wait split epicity is there an actual exact sequence in category theory involved here? < 1368994385 892911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FunFot: hi < 1368994390 354002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi < 1368994390 843744 :FunFot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: go to: http://www20.cera.com/ client/ ge the timing on one of the mentioned or related financial instruments that are in the right of the expiration of the rate the securities and exchange commission < 1368994405 641906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(No dynamic nickery trackery.) < 1368994408 807115 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats FunFot -----###
< 1368994424 178133 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: should there be? our article is about taking random category theory terms and seeing what they look like for block maps. < 1368994436 76344 :FunFot!fis@eos.zem.fi NICK :fungot < 1368994437 458778 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too dummy to track my own name. < 1368994457 553244 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and split monicity is actually like among the top 3 most famous results in the field < 1368994459 344083 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that's dummy! < 1368994459 591306 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: they might get the true lowdown on the market. < 1368994483 420122 :FachaF!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1368994489 656480 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : at least when i was doing my master's degree i recall that you broke an early proof sketch of my main result without admitting that you understood what it was about <-- i think that was sort of amusing, except i don't quite remember it. < 1368994496 411110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Dum, but knows finance, I suppose. < 1368994499 487963 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas split epicity turned out to be really hard < 1368994564 421357 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1368994600 790453 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what do split epis have to do with exact sequences? < 1368994601 775389 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well i recall split exact sequences were important in the theory around my phd, that was for C*-algebras which we often produced from dynamical systems < 1368994620 472577 :FachaF!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i demand to be swatted < 1368994633 945951 :FachaF!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION buzzes
< 1368994647 949866 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in module categories, a sequence A - B - 0 is exact if the map from A to B is epic < 1368994657 438080 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does "the subshift generated by the fixed point of the fibonacci substitution" say anything to you < 1368994688 812144 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because we've been doing some stuff on automorphism groups of minimal systems generated by substitutions < 1368994699 979805 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and didn't you study something very similar < 1368994705 901996 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION eyes FachaF
< 1368994737 949543 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and split exactness for 0 - A - B - C - 0 means that the maps split B into a direct sum of A and C, except i vaguely recall that when A,B,C were C*-algebras it was not quite a direct sum of C*-algebras, something stayed at the module level. or something like that. < 1368994740 317441 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know pretty much anything about C* algebras, except that our topology professor really really likes them < 1368994785 510065 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well split epic = has a right inverse < 1368994830 614064 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :epic = right-cancellative < 1368994874 253082 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt we investigate the theory that -chaf right-cancels the swattability of F.*F.* < 1368994977 827634 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1368994983 277073 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: we _did_ look at minimal substitution shift systems, their bratteli-vershik diagrams are particularly easy to calculate. and i think the fibonacci substitution was one of the frequent examples, like morse-thue. < 1368995043 855918 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we proved that for certain substitutions, the automorphism group of the subshift has Z (the shifts) as a finite index subgroup < 1368995096 940648 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember looking at automorphism groups of subshifts < 1368995111 707899 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik they haven't really been studied much < 1368995155 26326 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's known that for substitutions where images of letters are equally long, the group only contains radius 2 maps < 1368995167 33444 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(radius 2 cellular automata that is) < 1368995179 255867 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and up to a power of the shift) < 1368995188 665991 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was in some french paper < 1368995194 922187 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :with incomprehensible integrals and stuff < 1368995201 64839 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION declares he won't have time to finish logreading today
< 1368995213 274411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what about norwegian logreading < 1368995250 216334 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it's known that for sturmian systems, only shifts are automorphisms, this was proved this year, although i'd be surprised if no one knew that < 1368995263 994942 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh come on i didn't even misple it < 1368995328 159385 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hm automorphisms are just homeomorphisms commuting with the shift right? < 1368995414 341306 :FachaF!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Quit: quit quit < 1368995924 392626 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1368995935 199088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@swat oerjan < 1368995935 405645 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: slap what < 1368995952 243156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :slap what. swat. < 1368995958 698413 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are interested in all continuous self-maps which commute with the shift, but they are automatically automorphisms by a result. < 1368996050 210079 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1368996278 633941 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: in which case my advisor et al's result about orbit equivalence of Z^n group actions to actions by a single subshift would apply to the combination. not that it's really relevant... < 1368996320 521697 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it is, my brain isn't up to thinking much about this any more. < 1368996360 944403 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "action by a single subshift" mean < 1368996404 491184 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er i mean action by the shift in a subshift < 1368996406 904363 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1368996410 538114 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1368996435 103594 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's just generally a minimal action, depends whether it's expansive. < 1368996512 191988 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00222-009-0213-7# < 1368996537 222633 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :putnam sounds familiar < 1368996572 548262 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.136.7674 is an earlier result that only goes up to 2 < 1368996573 215017 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AF relation? < 1368996629 755044 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't access those now < 1368996664 225375 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost finite-something, basically what you get when you read the infinite graph of a bratteli-vershik diagram as a group action on the infinite paths. < 1368996695 853153 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the group action is swapping things down to finitely many levels. < 1368996697 2498 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should check out bratteli-vershik diagrams again, they might make more sense now < 1368996734 409881 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well only the bratteli part is used for AF iirc, the vershik part is to extend it to work with Z-actions (which includes subshifts) < 1368996783 717247 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but every minimal AF-relation is orbit equivalent to a minimal system, and vice versa. that's an older result which they are building upon here < 1368996897 448973 :Regis_!~Regis@187.65.216.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368996949 417181 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds pretty cool < 1368996976 654036 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you in contact with these guys still < 1368996983 846609 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas no < 1368997035 219422 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i met my advisor some years ago and he told me about these new results when they were about to get them published < 1368997274 340111 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you fix me a post-doc position there < 1368997327 834315 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot even fix my own life, oklopol < 1368997407 825142 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you fix mine i'll fix yours < 1368997590 608139 :carado!~user4539@mar44-5-88-182-30-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368998165 76530 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368998497 577887 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 QUIT :Quit: Night < 1368999155 744425 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0 < 1368999171 127541 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1368999431 43366 :AtheneNoctua!AtheneNoct@94.11.89.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368999487 187211 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, http://worms2d.info/Play_Worms_Armageddon_on_Linux ? < 1368999578 241307 :AtheneNoctua!AtheneNoct@94.11.89.13 PART :#esoteric < 1369000102 219295 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ has too much operator overloading; my "Black-C" specification does different operator overloading, with various restrictions such as, you cannot override assignments unless it is through a pointer, the [] and -> operators can be overridden only indirectly by overriding the indirection operator, etc < 1369000128 124280 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I think is a better way for C, even if not for C++. < 1369000157 105361 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think of this? < 1369000509 356335 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369000947 352627 :retek!506214bf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.98.20.191 JOIN :#esoteric < 1369000967 647500 :retek!506214bf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.98.20.191 QUIT :Client Quit < 1369001344 206717 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Sgeo: I don't know where the conversation came from, but I can confirm that Worms Armageddon works fine on Linux on wine (on Steam), as I have it. < 1369001620 355546 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowait, I have Worms Reloaded. < 1369001621 261575 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lul < 1369001626 142584 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am so good memories. < 1369001646 578099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: why do you have voice < 1369001770 624096 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not fear the voice. < 1369001773 18523 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Accept the voice. < 1369002385 70330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't answer the question. < 1369003249 974990 :augur!~augur@c-69-138-251-193.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369003431 764191 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/emre/macster < 1369003580 45832 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But overloading [] lets you do neat stuff like: map foo; foo["bar"] = "baz"; < 1369003714 902188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: I suppose it does, but things like that isn't for C. < 1369003726 893379 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can manage that with just overloading + and unary *. :) < 1369003740 755427 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(x[y] is *(x+y)) < 1369003776 875934 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if your thing going to do overloading or something then < 1369003797 422704 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and yes, that's commutative) < 1369003918 911534 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I buy Nexus 4 or wait for new Nexus? < 1369004886 381825 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: This is how my specification does it; it does it like that. < 1369005105 826548 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1369005712 244136 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Question, do you wish for function pointers to be castable through void*? < 1369005725 208642 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note that ISO C does *not* permit this) < 1369005752 368693 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Probably they should be, but I know that on some computers it might not be possible. You can use a union if you need to. < 1369005766 944626 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note also that POSIX requires this) < 1369005772 828031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. on harvard computers, and possibly some others too) < 1369005833 225947 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's actually feasible on a Harvard architecture, though your void*s will need to be wider than the system's addresses. < 1369005851 190276 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And have void* contain a flag for whether it's in instruction or data memory. < 1369005867 148045 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, if you do it like that. < 1369005903 990409 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As contrary to popular belief there's no reason for C pointers to directly correspond to system addresses. :) < 1369005966 471671 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But alas, people like to think of C as a "portable assembly" when it's an abstract machine that happens to be implementable on popular computers with fairly minimal overhead. < 1369005998 549423 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends on the target. < 1369006035 930453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the Z-machine, function pointers and data pointers have a different format, even though both are sixteen bits; there are also text pointers which have another different format. < 1369006138 839280 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people may call C as a "portable assembly", but assembly languages cannot really be portable; that is why there is C which is somewhat close, but not quite. < 1369006470 322904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some uses of "C as portable assembly" would be better described as "C as portable compiler IR" < 1369006474 581904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is more legit < 1369006483 152134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a compiler IR is allowed to have abstract semantics and fancy backend optimizations < 1369006574 628207 :augur!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1369006858 439561 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1369006926 330039 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric