00:00:47 have you tried that fancy inform 7 language? 00:01:27 No, I have not tried any version of Inform. I am using my own assembler for Z-machine. 00:03:49 Inform has a some restrictions, such as requiring that the word separators are .," and that dictionary entries have 9 bytes each, that property tables cannot be shared (although ZIL has the same restriction), etc 00:05:16 There are many other things that can be done with the Z-machine that I don't know if ZIL or Inform supports. 00:07:16 Downloaded Kubuntu 13.04 00:14:16 This includes: overlapping property tables (where some objects share some but not all properties; a dummy property entry will be needed to separate them), repointing property tables at runtime, changing the alphabet table at runtime, modifying default property values at runtime, making the global variable table overlap the default property table (possibly even the header of object 1), ... 00:17:49 WebGL, WebGL, who doesn't love WebGL? 00:17:54 WebGL WebGL I love you 00:17:55 >.> 00:18:06 * Sgeo hasn't actually used WebGL-based stuff much 00:19:05 i don't love it because it gives untrusted JavaScript code a huge amount of access to one of the biggest and scariest subsystems of the Linux kernel 00:19:55 and a successful attack through graphics card / driver would likely bypass most Chrome sandboxing 00:20:11 I bet it would make for a cool blog post though. 00:20:17 :D 00:20:35 If there was a prompt that needed to pop up for WebGL to activate, then it would be rougly equiv. to downloading and running an application? 00:20:40 * Bike 's system doesn't even support webgl. take that,attackers 00:20:50 kmc: it's terrifying just how huge and complex graphics drivers are 00:21:02 Presumbaly the user would need to trust... oh. Users are gullible. But then users would be gullible to download .exes anyway 00:21:08 Sgeo: it's not like that stops worms on windows 00:21:12 and I mean, like, they solve really huge problems, taking vast amounts of directx/opengl/etc code and transforming it into optimized graphics... commands and everything 00:21:12 right 00:21:19 but like. they're millions and millions of lines of code O_O 00:21:55 it sounds like they'd be really cool to work on though 00:21:59 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: Koen_). 00:22:00 yeah the prompt is a total cop-out 00:22:15 i mean if I have to trust any WebGL app as if it were unsandboxed native code, then it's not really "Web"GL is it 00:22:19 Another thing that can be done, is that the fix pitch bit in the header could be used to allow an undone operation to take one bit of information from the undo operation 00:22:32 don't get me wrong, I would still want the prompt if I enable WebGL at all 00:22:35 but it doesn't really solve the problem 00:22:42 I don't know if any Z-machine game does this. 00:22:48 not hard to wrap your exploit in some pretty WebGL demo and get it posted to Hacker News 00:23:47 I guess OpenGL commands that _should_ be safe aren't necessarily? 00:23:51 kmc: and you can sneak a bitcoin stealer into the exploit 00:23:55 <.< >.> 00:23:59 (given that it's hacker news) 00:24:04 Sgeo: yeah, because of bugs in the graphics card or its drivers 00:24:06 which are huuuuuuuuuuge 00:24:22 I read that nvidia's closed source graphics driver is about as big as Linux with all modules 00:24:25 which is to say ~10 MLOC 00:24:33 wow, that's even bigger than I imagined 00:24:34 that's leaving aside all of the software and hardware on the card itself 00:24:48 the card of course has privileges to write to anywhere in RAM that you like 00:24:58 (unless you have some IOMMU stuff set up just right) 00:25:43 as for open source drivers, well they might be a bit smaller, but they're scary as hell and often based on an incomplete reverse-engineered understanding of the hardware 00:26:19 Maybe the driver is too complicated because the hardware is too complicated. 00:26:30 I think it's probably because the *problem* is really complicated... 00:26:58 yeah, although I'm sure a lot of it is backwards compatibility junk as well 00:27:09 making doom 2 run is NP-complete 00:27:11 probably >_< especially given they have to support really really old cards 00:27:15 though I think they've dropped a lot of those 00:27:26 compat code is another really scary class of kernel code 00:27:50 it does weird data-format munging, often violates assumptions made elsewhere (e.g. by calling syscalls from kernel mode), and is often poorly / not tested 00:27:57 Doesn't IE still support content-sniffing on text/plain for compatibility reasons? 00:28:15 Compatibility issues in general suck, I think 00:28:30 there was a local root hole in the Linux kernel code for uploading firmware to a V4L version 2 card on a 64-bit system using the 32-bit V4L version 1 APIs 00:28:36 (As in, sniffing for HTML on what server claims to be text/plain) 00:28:44 which is something that nobody ever tried to do, and the code to do it was very broken 00:28:50 but it was in the kernel for years 00:29:05 Is OpenBSD any better? 00:29:10 it has less stuff 00:29:28 heh 00:29:30 Linux with minimal config is a lot better than standard kitchen sink Linux kernels 00:29:39 even better if you have grsecurity / PaX patches 00:30:01 Going to go reboot now 00:30:08 into OpenBSD? 00:30:12 Kubuntu 00:30:14 Sorry to disappoint 00:30:16 good luk 00:31:00 -!- Sgeo has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:32:29 have there been any high-profile like, uses of exploits? a worm or something? 00:33:43 of linux kernel exploits? 00:33:57 sure 00:34:28 well there are very few remote kernel exploits, so you would need to pair it with a remote user exploit of some kind to make a worm 00:34:37 and depending on your worm's goals, getting root is maybe not that useful 00:34:43 well what i'm asking is like 00:34:47 what do people do with linux exploits 00:35:28 get root on VPSes that they've compromised through a WordPress vulnerability 00:35:54 or even shared hosting servers with a bunch of processes running as different users 00:36:33 then you can have some fun with root access 00:37:18 so like, you could get root on a server at amazon ec2, and then do whoknowswhat on their network? 00:37:25 you can also break out of Linux Containers / OpenVZ / Virtuozzo containers with a kernel exploit I believe 00:37:25 (though I'd guess amazon would have really good security) 00:37:45 EC2 uses the Xen hypervisor so you would also need a Xen breakout exploit even if you have root on a guest 00:37:54 ahh 00:38:09 so with VPSs that don't do hypervisors, you'd just need a kernel exploit 00:38:37 Bike: people run honeypot servers and make recordings of people trying to attack them 00:38:40 some of them are pretty funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJagxe-Gvpw 00:39:18 http://downgoat.net/2013/04/25/the-story-about-some-very-bad-hackers/ 00:39:45 "sudo: command not found" xD 00:41:13 kmc: Oh my goodness this video. 00:41:16 yeah i've seenthose 00:41:20 cd ". " 00:41:30 oh I guess that's a "hiding shit" directory 00:41:33 -!- Sgeo has joined. 00:41:35 but doesn't exist :) 00:41:37 "maybe perl will work this time!" 00:41:38 -!- Sgeo has changed nick to Sgebuntu. 00:41:51 skebuntu 00:41:55 I love how utterly ignorant this "hacker" apparently is. 00:42:05 Was so frustrated until realizing I forgot to connect to wifi 00:42:10 It's like they got told a couple recipes for hacking Unix boxen and then fucked it up. 00:42:18 script kiddies, as they say 00:42:25 What hacker 00:42:42 this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJagxe-Gvpw 00:42:43 "Maybe /var/spool/sambda will exist *now*!" 00:43:14 that was kind of amazingly bad 00:43:27 I wonder why they try to use /var/spool/samba 00:44:09 maybe it was the cwd of the samba process they exploited 00:44:40 it takes perseverence to go past no sudo 00:45:17 lol, spool appearing 00:45:33 Bike: They were root! 00:46:18 shit i wish i could download SP3 that fast 00:48:37 * Bike looks at "7202 B/s", sobs 00:50:12 kmc: ohhh. so they exploited a process to get on the server, only to find themselves in a honeypot? 00:59:25 WTF is KDE Talk? 01:03:04 Oh, a KDE jabber server 01:07:30 -!- conehead has joined. 01:27:03 Fiora: i don't know, but it seems likely 01:30:06 gotta work up the nerve to hit 'send' on these job emails 01:30:10 it's scary :/ 01:32:35 sending important emails is scary, I really often end up using the undo button like 5 times in a row before I've nerve-wracked myself into believing it's okay 01:32:39 (undo send is wonderful though) 01:35:20 does it just insert a delay before actually sending the email? 01:35:24 -!- Bike has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:35:26 yeah 01:35:51 it has saved me from soooo much embarrassment probably 01:35:55 i appreciated amazon 1-click more once I realized it works like that 01:36:03 you have 30 minutes to cancel or modify the order 01:36:08 ooooh. I had no idea 01:36:20 IIRC it's a 30 second delay. 01:36:23 that's really nice. I think I'm less afraid to use one-click one 01:36:26 *one-click now 01:36:36 Assumption being that 30 seconds is close enough to instant. 01:36:37 pikhq: really? 01:36:43 kmc: That's for Gmail. 01:36:46 oh 01:36:58 I didn't know about Amazon's thing. 01:37:00 yeah one click + amazon prime is a pretty potent combination 01:37:01 undo send is the best feature 01:37:08 Gmail does undo send? 01:37:12 NihilistDandy: it's a lab feature 01:37:12 Yup. 01:37:15 it's a google labs feature thing 01:37:17 you can set the delay, I think? 01:37:19 Ah, I see 01:37:23 That's pretty great 01:37:30 i have previously used the trick of not filling in the recipient address until you're really ready to send 01:38:07 ooh, sneaky 01:38:25 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:38:59 -!- Bike has joined. 01:50:06 Good idea or bad idea: Just installing 13.04 over my existing Kubuntu install 02:01:44 if you have separate /home, good idea 02:03:17 No separate /home 02:03:22 I think 02:03:29 Would that be reasonably easy to do though? 02:05:56 Or... maybe it is 02:06:05 do you have backups 02:06:07 It seems to be encrypted... does that imply separate mount? 02:07:44 no 02:07:55 the encrypted file may still be stored on the same partition as everything else 02:07:59 just make backups 02:08:04 you need backups anyway 02:08:19 To where? 02:08:28 some storage device? 02:08:47 how much irreplaceable personal data do you have? 02:09:05 i don't have very much, since most of the stuff I make is text and I don't have many photos or videos 02:10:20 Quite a bit, but not in /home particularly 02:10:42 Losing irreplaceable data has been a bit of a fact of life for me :( 02:10:58 I think there's some on a broken HD I have lying around somewhere 02:11:58 buhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 02:12:18 * kmc is still scared of sending these emails 02:20:27 Sounds like anxiety. 02:21:12 It's ok, just wait until you run out of money 02:21:18 Stuff works out naturally 02:29:34 haha 02:29:48 fortunately that will take quite a while 02:29:57 but I don't want to sit around doing nothing for an extended period of time 02:30:01 i've done enough of that 02:31:42 I just bought cereal online, not because I needed more cereal, but because I've heard good things about this cereal from a place that reviewed another cereal that people love 02:31:54 I feel slightly mad 02:32:03 (As in not sane, not as in angry) 02:32:17 was it http://www.cerealmarshmallows.com/ 02:32:27 Waffle Crisps 02:33:28 But now I want those 02:33:35 thmnoqy 02:34:05 yw 02:39:58 * Sgebuntu is becoming a spendaholic 02:40:45 fuckin capitalist 02:41:56 * Sgebuntu has sold software since 2007 02:42:40 BOURGEOISE 02:45:38 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 02:48:06 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 02:55:34 bourgrammer 03:13:14 What is your opinion of this? http://ifwiki.org/index.php/Cruelty_scale 03:13:39 The alarm clock website I use seems to think it's 3:13 AM. 03:13:44 It is only 11:13 03:13:51 seems alright to me 03:13:56 your only solution is to move 4 time zones over 03:14:23 to newfoundland! 03:14:53 actually wait is sgeo in asia or...i'mconfused now 03:16:17 i thought Long Island, NY 03:16:23 long island is long 03:16:27 but not 4 time zones long :'( 03:17:18 longcat? 03:19:04 unsigned long cat 03:19:15 lol 03:39:14 Dear System clock: Fuck you so very much 03:50:01 yay i got over my fear and sent 3 job applications 03:50:08 now it's time for much drinking 03:52:02 congrats! 03:52:06 and good luck 03:52:30 wow, are you getting 3 jobs! 03:52:59 hypercapitalist 03:53:52 i know right 03:53:56 thanks Fiora :) 03:57:37 Jafet: maybe "bougiegrammer" 03:57:50 but that makes me think of... bougie grammer 03:58:19 bourgamersie 03:58:21 "Téodor, when you talk that way, I feel like I'm sitting on the nozzle of a big metal tank that says YALE." 04:03:53 -!- Gregor has quit (Quit: Coyote finally caught me). 04:14:57 The comprehensive Achewood text archive is unbelievably helpful 04:19:04 -!- Gregor has joined. 04:21:38 * Sgebuntu wonders if the single threat ClamAV has found so far might just be something downloaded out of curiousity but otherwise inactive 04:21:59 Not sure whether to hope so or not. If not, then I can blame all my Windows problems on it... 04:29:28 Does it give a name? 04:37:32 No. Maybe when the scan is done. 05:27:32 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:27:56 -!- sebbu has joined. 05:29:06 NihilistDandy: yes 05:29:12 it is helpful 05:29:52 I should write a bot that only knows lines from Achewood 05:29:57 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_97q16TFxk they're making an Achewood TV show 05:30:05 wuuuuuut 05:30:08 Yus 05:31:34 All I can hear is Cotton Hill's voice 05:32:28 i think this test footage is kind of off, but I'm hopeful it will become a good show 05:32:38 Yeah, that'd be a fun time 05:33:02 i think the strip has pretty much run its course and so I'm excited to see it go in new directions 05:33:29 I need to do an archive binge and catch up 05:40:14 nice paper: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/456444_4106885718450_1465379536_o.jpg 05:41:12 -!- madb4rd has changed nick to hagb4rd|tempsane. 05:41:34 note that Beef is voiced by Chris Onstad in that video 06:10:28 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 06:12:39 -!- Bike has joined. 06:20:11 It could probably be improved by removing "fucking" and placing each sentence on its own line. 06:20:41 And perhaps even numbering them or bullet point 06:23:40 that was a strange zzoism when i forgot the context 06:23:56 truth is not improvable by order 06:23:58 hail eris 06:25:16 Except noncommutative logic, I suppose. 06:27:43 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com). 06:30:13 also: we need the americans to read the whole thing. the fucking works kind of like a fnord: disarming some auth-sub-routine-filters which allows direct inception on the lower levels of human perception 06:32:50 i remember beeing there for the first time. almost intuitive, i pressed ALT+A, and there it was.. a tiny little fnord in that corner 06:33:12 ridiculous but that was a magic moment :D 06:33:15 for me 06:33:44 "The mammals include the largest animals on the planet... as well as some of the most intelligent" 06:33:47 "some of" 06:34:55 corvids and cephalopods, man 06:34:59 you know the score 06:35:14 aw beeing where? i meant the RAW website..somehow i dropped that sorry 06:35:19 Are You Smarter Than A Cephalopod, coming this fall on NBC 06:35:54 oh, and parrots. i forget whatever the sciency name for parrots is 06:36:04 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 06:36:09 pretty sure it's parrotiae 06:36:14 (n.b.: not really) 06:36:28 psittaciformes now you know 06:36:32 zzo38: Just removing "fucking" and placing each sentence on its own line would work. 06:36:32 kmc: they can have like, a locking mechanism and see whether the people or the cuttlefish can figure it out first 06:36:32 psittacines 06:36:41 :3 06:36:44 it's amazing how many ways i'd pronounce that wrong 06:36:44 tonight at 9, on FOX 06:36:46 Particularly given that that's in Helvetica. 06:37:12 pikhq_: Yes, you don't need to do the others, but it will make it a bit nicer, at least, *maybe*. 06:37:21 I don't think they would. 06:37:42 parrots know like, sarcasm and stuff 06:37:45 ready for irc, imo 06:37:46 Doesn't fit too well with the whole Swiss style aesthetic, which is really what you should target when using Helvetica. 06:40:26 "You're naïve! Perfect Swiss men probably account for under one ten-millionth of a percent of worldwide joint sales!" 06:41:38 perfect swiss men??? joint sales?????????? 06:41:46 is there a german version of smoke two joints 06:41:50 if not there really should be 06:42:11 rauchen zwei Gelenken 06:42:23 Geschmoken zwei Jointzen 06:42:30 where does europe even get its weed 06:42:30 i think pikhq_ has it 06:42:42 i bet it's finland 06:42:43 uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ever hear of a place called HOLLAND 06:42:53 oh right 06:42:58 well do they grow it there 06:43:00 yes 06:43:15 «According to The Toyes, "one fine fall day on a small island" of Oahu in Hawaii, two of the band members, Jim and Sandy, were sitting under a large banyan tree on Kuhio Beach, "tokin' on some sweet bud & jammin' on a rootsy reggae funky town"» is this real 06:43:17 that said I hear much of the weed in the UK is horrible "soapbar hash" 06:43:26 man i know like nothing about this stuff how can everyone be so knowledgable 06:43:29 smoke two articulations 06:43:30 The tulips are just a cover. 06:43:32 does that mean it's cut with soap, or something more creative 06:43:52 mnoqy: The secret is I pretend. 06:44:11 oh shit,oh shit, holland is only sort of the same thing as the netherlands?? 06:44:14 fuck that country 06:44:25 i assume it's a province or whatever 06:44:39 It's like England vs. the UK or some such. 06:44:43 "Holland is a region and former province in the western part of the Netherlands. The term Holland is also frequently used as a pars pro toto to refer to the whole of the Netherlands. This usage is generally accepted, but disliked by part of the Dutch population, especially in the other parts of the Netherlands" 06:44:48 fuck the world 06:44:54 hm is soapbar hash where you put the hash in a bar of soap like those little plastic dinosaurs and stuff 06:45:05 I dunno, the world doesn't look fuckable. 06:45:12 isn't the set of dutch people not living in holland a set of measure zero 06:45:13 fuck. it 06:45:17 you know, the little plastic dinosaurs you put in the soap so when you use the soap you rub yourself with the dinosaur 06:45:22 Just call it "the nether regions". 06:45:22 kmc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Holland_position.svg !!!!! 06:45:26 mnoqy: almost -Gelenken +Dübel 06:45:26 give me a hole big enough and i will fuck the whole world 06:45:30 also: sex joke 06:45:31 -- newton or someone 06:45:35 hagb4rd|tempsane: thanks 06:45:36 but we mostly say joints 06:45:42 sex joke: "holland position" 06:45:42 :) 06:45:51 the joke is holland, 06:45:59 hagb4rd|tempsane: damn your multilingualism!! 06:46:15 nadsat <3 06:46:21 time to figure out what i ~actually~ said 06:46:23 Alas, I don't speak German, I speak fake German. 06:46:29 i thought that wasmore of a creole 06:46:31 I also speak Swedish Chef. 06:46:34 or a uh... a word better than creole 06:47:14 yea we're quite a nice colorful bunch of earthlings 06:47:21 happy to hear that 06:47:28 to kn0w whatever 06:47:35 seen rasta 06:48:14 if holland is so great then why is the Noord/Zuid Line still under construction???? checkmate 06:48:23 seriously though Amsterdam is great and I would love to live there 06:48:54 wtf, the netherlands had to declare independence from spain 06:48:58 how is european history even possible 06:50:05 mnoqy: http://dict.leo.org/?lp=ende&search=gelenk#/search=joint&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on 06:50:26 makes sense 06:50:33 that's why the Dutch version of Santa Claus is from Spain and if you're bad then Santa's friend Black Pete will haul you off to Spain 06:50:35 joint is like 8 words in german with completely different meaning 06:50:43 true story 06:50:53 cool 06:51:02 yet it somehow manages not actually to mean joint 06:51:03 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sintenpiet.jpg 06:51:16 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 06:52:13 joint -> prison, suit, node, habbit, lineup, connection 06:52:18 Controversial practices include holiday revellers blackening their faces and wearing afro wigs, gold jewelry and bright red lipstick,[8] and walking the streets throwing candy to passers-by. 06:53:09 As an experiment in 2006, the NPS (en: Dutch Programme Foundation) replaced the black Pieten with rainbow-colored Pieten but reverted the characters back to the traditional all-black makeup a year later. 06:53:20 what a good tradition 06:53:23 -!- augur has joined. 06:53:36 also NL used to be a republic but Napoleon installed his brother as king or something 06:53:54 well, i mean, napoleon 06:54:05 i figger he just fucked up all of europe forever, that's not hard to undersatnd 06:54:54 western europe at least 06:55:15 eastern europe was already fucked up 06:55:27 is poland part of eastern europe i forget 06:56:06 yea, im happy the russian stops all that maniacs 06:56:16 russia invades, now you have two problems 06:56:28 like napoleon 06:56:29 or hitler 06:56:49 i mean like, during the deluge (it's actually called the deluge) poland lost almost half its population 06:56:54 to swedes? 06:56:59 like what's even up with that, europe. 06:57:07 history sounds crazy man 06:57:11 how do they do it 06:57:29 what is deluge? i can speak polish.. i have polish roots 06:57:38 never heard that 06:57:50 hagb4rd|tempsane: the swedeish invasion of poland in the 1600s 06:58:19 it's called 'potop' like 'flood' 06:58:28 Potop_szwedzki 06:58:32 i assume that means 'swedish flood' 06:58:38 because the swedish came all the way down by the boat 06:58:44 on wisla 06:59:06 the river through poland all the way down to krakow 06:59:44 it's like poland vanished from the maps already 3 times 07:00:04 krakow is a nice city 07:00:11 that IS true 07:00:15 poland didn't exist in like the 19th century right 07:00:29 but i also never been there 07:00:48 i believe longer 07:00:53 18th19th 07:01:02 don't remember exactly 07:01:20 that's a lot of centuries to stop existingand then unstop later, imo 07:03:26 well true.. but its people never stopped fighting for its sovereignity 07:03:29 Poland: it comes and goes 07:04:25 actually the first versa in the antem is like 'poland is not lost, as long as we live' 07:04:35 and blah 07:04:55 "Polonium may be the first element named to highlight a political controversy" 07:05:18 i have german and polish roots.. and for that reason i am a citizen of earth 07:05:20 stunning political commentary from the physics world *nukes idaho* 07:06:19 it was revealed by marie curie i believe 07:06:31 a polish woman 07:06:37 living in paris 07:06:47 sorry france 07:06:53 pierre curie 07:07:02 they got curie's daughter, who also got a nobel 07:07:05 so i'd say that worked out 07:07:05 radiation 07:07:23 yep 07:07:38 indeed 07:08:26 but what controversy did you mean kmc? 07:08:38 was that a joke ..ok 07:09:10 Curie named polonium in the late 1800s, when Poland iddn't exist. 07:09:19 aw 07:09:24 okay 07:09:55 is that an interpretation of your own? 07:10:00 or known facts 07:10:02 kmc was quoting wikipedia. 07:10:07 ok 07:10:12 cool 07:10:44 It was Curie's hope that naming the element after her native land would publicize its lack of independence. ( Kabzinska, K. (1998). "Chemical and Polish aspects of polonium and radium discovery". Przemysl Chemiczny 77 (3): 104–107.) 07:11:09 (chemical and polish) 07:12:04 a great gift for both chemists and.............polishsts????? 07:12:20 well the french somehow understood the beauty in the polish culture 07:12:31 i love chopin ;) 07:12:48 polishers 07:12:48 which has nothing to do with his nationality 07:13:17 but there wasnt that many polish guys writing history 07:13:27 and not to forget: kopernikus 07:13:51 thats it 07:14:52 the pope missed ranking by a few credits (sorry pope..maybe next time :P) 07:15:26 pole btw. means sth like field 07:16:21 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:16:24 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mammal_Diversity_2011.png 07:16:30 which makes sense to me, they were just peasents.. 07:16:52 okay. thanks for that excursion. 07:17:13 kmc: wikipedia's little tilings are great 07:17:16 -!- augur has joined. 07:17:25 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Leonid_Brezhnev_and_Richard_Nixon_talks_in_1973_cropped.JPG mammal diversity 07:18:03 this one has a pangolin in it 07:18:07 so it's basically the best? 07:18:39