00:06:25 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 00:06:35 what's C/C++ ? 00:07:09 -!- copumpkin has joined. 00:08:07 lambdabot just sent the link 00:09:41 I'm pretty awesome at coding in C/C++ 00:10:18 it's amazing when you learn something new 00:10:47 i didn't know C/C++ was an actual language, i thought it referred to C and C++ 00:10:58 good thing we have this information database. 00:11:01 @where smalltalk 00:11:01 I know nothing about smalltalk. 00:11:04 hm 00:11:11 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:12:08 I think http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs655/readings/smalltalk.html should be somewhere. 00:12:12 http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs655/readings/smalltalk_files/dpbs_figure1.gif 00:13:37 shachaf: It doesn't work (obviously) because, it is not a proper format. 00:15:13 Don't you know that if you write HELP CMODE then it will tell you what +s is for? 00:15:29 Oh, I did, but I forgot. Thanks. 00:15:44 -!- augur_ has joined. 00:15:51 "Channel will not be shown in /whois and /list etc." so, useless 00:16:02 what if you have a super secret channel? 00:16:05 not so useless now! 00:25:03 There is some new Pokemon game, I don't think it actually exist but they say it is available for PC, Nintendo DS, and GameCube. They also say, if you hold all the key except PrintScreen, ScrollLock, and Pause, you can make all of your pokemons at level 100. 00:26:18 If you delete a level 100 pokemon then the next one you catch will be level 101. If you sell 99 fuses to a store, go out, and come back in, they will sell you a Dark badge. If you sell all of the badges in the game (including Dark badge) to the same store, they will give you a free steel belt which maxes the stats of any pokemon it is attached to. 00:27:48 If you stand on your head, on top of the computer monitor, and say "bloobloo pie is good so I like it", then your older sister will come in and say "What the heck are you doing?" and then you will lose. In the GameCube version, if you name your first Pokemon by your mother's last name in Italian, that pokemon will have its highest form when you get it. 00:28:46 In the PC version, if you use an attack with 0 PP left, it will display the message "Sorry but your pokemon is tired of using that move and will attack you now. Good-bye." and then it will delete your save file and reboot the computer. 00:29:25 And if you play the Lavender Town theme backwards a skeleton poops out? 00:29:43 It doesn't say that, but maybe. 00:31:39 zzo38 is starting Pokérumours 00:31:53 tell us about the pokégods, zzo. 00:32:19 I have also been told that your character's mother always walks into walls. 00:34:57 sing us a song, you're the pokémon 00:38:11 -!- augur_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:39:13 -!- augur has joined. 00:57:51 -!- lambdabot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:01:53 -!- lambdabot has joined. 01:21:52 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:34:40 -!- madb4rd has joined. 01:42:36 -!- augur has joined. 01:45:58 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:47:06 -!- augur has joined. 01:48:42 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:54:11 -!- carado has joined. 02:01:37 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 02:05:53 -!- carado has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:09:49 -!- carado has joined. 02:10:43 keycap picture insert mode appreciation thread! ⎈⇧⇥␣←→↑↓⇞⇟⇱⇲⎀⌦↵⌫⎋ 02:11:04 are we... in a thread 02:11:13 itt lots of unicode characters 02:11:19 The first one to post a snowman gets a prize 02:11:35 this channel is composed almost entirely of unicode characters 02:11:43 :o! 02:11:46 Almost? 02:11:50 What's non-unicode 02:12:20 some of the topic, because zzo38 always makes it shift-jis 02:12:31 i don't have an example, but IRC does allow sending arbitrary bytes, and someone may have sent bytes intending them to represent a character which isn't in unicode 02:12:35 like klingon letters 02:12:46 shift-jis is an encoding for a subset of Unicode, isn't it 02:12:56 (retroactively) 02:13:00 also does he really do that 02:13:07 shift-jis is retarded 02:14:37 Shift-JIS isn't very good either; Shift-JIS does not follow principle of extended ASCII. 02:14:40 Sometimes an Xchat user emits Latin-1 instead. 02:14:48 Though, Latin-1 is just UCS-1. 02:15:06 the ascii is good, the penis is evil 02:15:28 I dunno, penises are good. 02:15:47 indeeed 02:17:13 im glad to always have one within range 02:18:14 have an ISO-2022-JP 02:18:22 With about fifteen different kinds of modes and "locking shifts" 02:18:36 Because WE'RE JAPAN WE CAN'T DO IT THE EASY WAY 02:19:04 `cat /dev/urandom 02:19:05 T(?Prfώ[m0;hDK01T qh=`\^[l%F5")V/7,=ASq^CgHE^ɫ6>r-]=2rv+Gvj]^VE8$2%2Z_戅Tߞ+:eVJ7ind7Xxԕ6.GH \ .+KXmE^`79ؐ(Fڿ\(}χqyXA&o5(@.0ͩ["8&p!~u)"(3H 02:19:53 ISO-2022 is ♫ the worst ♫ 02:20:17 ( ゚,_ゝ゚) 02:20:31 ISO 2022 almost makes sense when you know it can be 7-bit clean. 02:20:38 -!- yiyus has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 02:20:57 so can UTF-7 :) 02:21:50 Yeah, it's not Unicode so it sucks by default. :P 02:22:39 Unicode is bad too, though. 02:23:32 Japan still has the last laugh... on the emoji block. 02:23:45 -!- yiyus has joined. 02:24:22 I think anything that requires 7-bit characters should be destroyed 02:24:46 Followed by some form of torture for whoever was still running such a system 02:25:02 i think that conflicts with ascii!! 02:25:33 i read "Java still has the last laugh" 02:25:51 👹 02:25:51 💩 02:25:53 hmm 02:26:33 👯 02:26:50 That was probably sexist sorry 02:28:33 If something is requiring 7-bit characters doesn't necessarily make them bad 02:28:43 Or, even 6-bit or 5-bit 02:29:01 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:31:42 😑💧 02:32:01 > generalCategory '💩' 02:32:02 mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character) 02:32:34 That character is 8-bit dirty 02:32:54 > generalCategory '\128169' 02:32:56 OtherSymbol 02:37:11 * kmc wonders if calling something "micro-optimization" implies disapproval 02:37:20 there's definitely a place for micro-optimization 02:37:23 contextual, i think 02:37:41 usually i see 'premature optimization' as the disapproving one, since we all have a little knuth in our heads i guess? 02:37:52 heh 02:37:56 different meaning though, i think 02:38:17 yeah 02:47:32 i guess there are a few different things people discourage 02:47:53 optimizing before you need to, optimizing things that don't matter, writing overly clever code that the compiler would do better if you wrote it naively 02:47:59 but each of these is contextual 02:48:52 http://www.linux-kongress.org/2009/slides/compiler_survey_felix_von_leitner.pdf is a really nice slide deck about the last of those 02:49:03 I am sure, it does depend on circumstsances; premature optimization is not always bad. 02:49:07 But it is usually bad. 02:49:59 Premature optimization sounds premature 02:51:23 if it's not bad then I would say it was not premature, although you can only say for sure in retrospect 02:51:44 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 02:51:53 premature optimisation is obviously bad by definition 02:51:58 there can also be higher level effects like "if we let our programmers optimize this, they will be entertained now, and less stressed out later" 02:52:02 Well, OK, I suppose that is how you meant by "premature"; it makes sense. 02:52:23 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 02:52:23 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 02:54:43 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 02:59:39 -!- NihilistDandy has joined. 03:01:18 -!- NihilistDandy has quit (Client Quit). 03:18:51 iconv: conversion to `baudot' is not supported 03:18:52 :( 03:20:38 "Note: ”rep ; ret” works around a shortcoming in the Opteron branch 03:20:39 prediction logic, saving a few cycles. Very few humans know this." 03:20:50 good thing I'm not actually human, nya! 03:21:00 O: 03:22:27 It doesn't matter. It says very few, rather than nothing at all. 03:23:06 oh geez, people trying to ""optimize"" i*0x01010101 03:23:53 Many optimizations have to depend on the computer, meaning it will be suitable for assembly language but not necessarily in C. 03:24:39 Fiora: ? like other than shifts or 03:25:45 I meant like, writing it in a fancier fashion to try to make it "faster" 03:25:50 instead of letting the compiler pick the right way 03:25:58 apparently in the thing kmc posted it made it worse in a lot of compilers 03:25:59 oh yeah 03:26:04 the books i learned C from told me to do that 03:26:11 ALSO the pope's twitter is really boring 03:26:29 (from like, an assembly point of view, imul with 0x01010101 will probably almost always be faster just because it's fewer uops, I think? so trying to force the compiler to do something more complicated feels wrong) 03:26:57 That definitely seems like the sort of optimization that should be handled by the compiler. 03:27:09 yeah, it's basically an instruction selection issue, I think... 03:27:10 I really think there ought to be the way to specify multiple branch which the compiler can choose based on which is optimized and which does not result in compiler errors, in case one is error and another isn't. 03:27:56 I think you can sort of do that? 03:28:01 __builtin_constant_p or something like that 03:29:18 Well, you can in a few cases; not in all cases. 03:29:44 i really hope my gsoc goes through so i can get Real Experience on compilers, which i will then never use in my career 03:30:43 hah 03:30:49 what did you apply to? 03:30:54 Another thing sometimes useful might be to specify zero or more "builtin meanings" of some function (whether or not it is inline), and then the compiler can use it for optimization, or replace it with native instructions, or whatever; such as BCD arithmetic functions 03:30:55 sbcl 03:31:21 Bike: you should apply for one of the haskell ones imho. 03:31:43 my project is about making it possible to selectively enable optimization phases, and hopefully have a protocol for optimizations to make everything less of a hacked up horrible mess 03:31:52 elliott: you? humble? 03:34:37 Bike: in my hexcellent opinion 03:34:48 oh, i see. 03:34:52 does that mean you're a hexmage 03:35:04 a hexham 03:35:25 do you live in yourself 03:35:40 also a guy mentioned edwardk possibly helping with the sbcl project which was weird 03:36:26 elliott: are you a gsco mentor yet? 03:36:29 *gsoc 03:38:35 nope 03:39:38 6. What are the eligibility requirements for mentors? 03:39:39 Representatives and mentors for the organizations must be at least 18 years old. 03:39:47 looks like I couldn't be even if I wanted to, which I don't 03:39:52 i thought you were 18 now 03:39:56 no 03:39:57 august 03:40:06 also imnho you should be a mentor for a haskell one 03:40:11 what are the haskell ones, btw 03:40:16 uh there's a lot of shit i think 03:40:33 http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2012/haskell 03:40:45 except there's more stuff that's just not accepted yet or something i guess? 03:40:46 oh that's 2013 03:40:47 2012 03:40:49 fuck if i know 03:40:51 ask shachaf 03:41:07 Patch Index Optimization for darcs, how exciting 03:42:10 anyway aren't you like a wunderkid or something. i heard you rewrote ghc from scratch once 03:43:25 i don't quite see how this makes me 18 03:43:41 well like 03:43:47 if a google person disagrees you just hackinate them? 03:43:57 i don't know i'm not a wündékĩd 03:43:58 well also i don't want to mentor???? 03:44:02 y not 03:44:03 it sounds pretty unfun! 03:44:11 you have to like deal with a student 03:44:12 and know things 03:44:17 working with idiot undergrads (me) is the most fun 03:44:18 and shit 03:44:23 you can get away with pretending 03:44:29 Bike: they might not even be undergrads yet! 03:44:29 okay i'd do it if it was you because i'd be able to be an asshole to you 03:44:59 yeah i actually haven't attended school in like a year but it works anyway 03:45:19 wow Bike don't you want to be a biologist 03:45:26 yes 03:45:32 as a biologist i sit around in grass watching bugs 03:45:37 that's what biologists do! 03:45:56 maybe bikeologists 03:45:59 but not real biologists 03:45:59 yup, that's all they do 03:46:08 I know someone in biology 03:46:11 she yelled at me :( 03:46:40 for what, saying she stared at bugs all day? 03:47:22 no 03:47:24 hmm... actually 03:47:29 I'm not sure she yelled at me 03:47:33 Bike: have you done any `'`'field work`'`'` 03:47:36 she certainly yelled at other people though! 03:47:42 Bike: I stare at bugs all day! 03:48:19 i was a CS major so... no 03:48:58 Bike: imo your biologist story has major inconsistencie 03:48:59 s 03:49:05 luckily the campus i'll be schooled at has exciting fieldy classes like ones on how to handle cow semen 03:49:34 she was my stage manager :( 03:49:46 elliott: the major inconsistencies consist of: me being a loser 03:50:23 Bike: yeah i agree 03:50:31 imo, almost as much of a loser as i am 03:51:02 that's pretty losery 03:51:09 itt we yell at each other (perpetual flamewar) 03:51:11 have you considered becoming a sociologist 03:51:19 being a sociologist doesn't sound very fun 03:51:36 neither does being a loser 03:51:45 imo it is 03:52:03 it's the only thing where you can be as lazy and useless as shit and it actually makes you better at doing the thing you're doing! 03:52:19 https://gist.github.com/kmcallister/302c3487216268f26480 03:52:43 i feel at this point that every major's terrible is appropriate 03:52:55 kmc: i observe a decrease in colon use 03:53:00 w/ my science goggles 03:53:12 21:56 < kmc> itt: bicycle day is every day <-- good day 03:53:28 elliott: this data you're goggling seems rather... sociological... wouldn't you say 03:53:36 elliott: i saw an infomercial today for a product called COLON FLOW, do you think that would help 03:53:52 Bike: more like kmcological 03:53:56 kmc: what did it do 03:54:12 no audio but the 3d rendered large intestine made it pretty clear 03:54:22 i, too, have a 3d rendered large intestine 03:54:53 kmc: btw you should set your client to elide the space after < 03:54:55 for moral resons 03:54:57 *ea 03:55:38 `pastequotes zzo38 03:55:44 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.32319 03:56:45 kmc: oh hey "pretty clear" i just got that 03:58:54 `pastequotes Bike 03:59:00 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.21104 03:59:15 oh was that an intentional joke 03:59:18 requesting info from kmc 03:59:31 the joke is bowel problems 03:59:37 also that encoding problem should stop being a problem. 03:59:40 I have to say that `pastquotes zzo38 is a pretty good joke 03:59:45 it is 04:01:36 no 04:01:38 Bike: hi i slept for a bit but now i'm awake again????????? and i guess i'll be awake "alnight" 04:02:08 hm 04:02:09 bad plan 04:02:21 Is it? 04:02:59 yes 04:03:00 I have a flight leaving SJC in 12 hours. 04:03:21 well, i guess you could sleep on the plane 04:03:27 are you transporting yourself to the air port? 04:03:57 ? 04:04:23 like. driving 04:04:28 oh 04:04:41 that ' s not the plan 04:04:45 I'm being carried on the back of an elephant like any civilized person. 04:05:04 (and by elephant i mean CALTRAAAAAAIN and by back i mean inside) 04:05:19 insmod taxi.ko 04:05:51 well uh 04:05:54 don't miss your flight 04:06:06 don't trainsurf caltrain 04:07:10 Should I wait for a Union Pacific train instead? 04:07:50 have you seen one of those on the caltrain tracks "its gr8" 04:08:50 http://www.theonion.com/articles/toddler-junkie-immediately-hooked-on-looking-at-tr,32025/ = me 04:10:04 Which of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railfan does kmc do? 04:12:13 i have 04:12:45 yeah there is a hierarchy of railfans not unlike http://brunching.com/images/geekchartbig.gif 04:13:13 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8_nqTVhDPo 04:13:52 is kmc the kind that's addicted to heroin and dies 04:13:57 yeah 04:13:59 n.b. i've never read/seen trainspotting 04:14:25 A WAG-5 in Araku Valley near Vizag, India—a paradise for trainspotters. 04:14:30 elliott: oh yeah well i didn't even get the reference when i first read that article!! 04:14:33 Amateur SF/Fantasy Artists Who Can't Get Breasts Right <-- redundant 04:14:43 coppro: nice 04:15:15 i'm mainly interested in rapid transit systems and their different peculiar properties 04:15:33 routes and fixed infrastructure and the history of that 04:15:51 i don't care much about the rolling stock.... there are people who make it a goal to photograph every numbered car on the NYC subway, i think that's mad 04:16:05 i did go out of my way to ride some routes that weren't normally in use, but that was mainly because lexande was going 04:16:14 he has the goals of riding every route segment on various systems 04:18:12 hey kmc have u programed ruby while being on a train.......... 04:18:27 the joke is ruby on rails tht 04:19:03 funny joek 04:19:52 um no its not 04:20:02 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 04:20:05 .. . .. 04:20:13 -!- Bike has joined. 04:21:44 i'm not sure whether roadfanning is weirder or not than trainfanning 04:22:44 Bike: you ahould dedicate the remainder of your life to developing a to-scale model train set of the entire UK network 04:22:58 (including the Tube) 04:24:01 -!- Bike_ has joined. 04:24:02 fuck the tube 04:24:07 shit's impure 04:24:13 -!- Bike has quit (Disconnected by services). 04:24:15 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 04:24:30 Have you considered your Internet connection's impure? hth 04:24:34 oh wheezy was released 04:24:38 what do i do to get my server on testing again 04:24:41 i will purify the world 04:27:12 Bike: why is the Tube impure? 04:27:15 elliott: s/wheezy/jessie/g on sources.list 04:27:24 i don' tknow 04:28:07 these things just happen. 04:28:19 %s/wheezy/testing/g even better?? 04:28:23 "perma-testing" 04:28:31 shachaf: l2sed 04:28:46 coppro: He was typing vi I think. :) 04:28:50 I know 04:28:56 but that requires opening vim 04:29:03 IMPURE 04:29:18 the best is "sed s/wheezy/testing/g sources.list | sponge sources.list" 04:30:07 so fuck that tube, fuck it so loudly that no-one can sleep, tubefucker 04:30:27 coppro: or sed -i 04:30:38 but ++ anyway for sponge, sponge is teh best 04:30:41 coppro: vim has undo hth 04:30:50 that command is sponge-worthy (timely seinfeld reference) 04:31:07 what is sponge 04:31:11 Bike: man sponge 04:31:13 hth 04:31:24 Mosh: You have 8 detached Mosh sessions on this server, with PIDs: 04:31:30 No manual entry for sponge 04:31:31 kmc: can I pay you to do something about this fucking message 04:31:31 kill them all 04:31:37 yes I know but I'm too lazy 04:31:43 Bike: http://bit.ly/10d9apo hth 04:31:47 the only downside is that it's a bunch of blue when I log in after all 04:31:57 btw how does it MITM that message in anyway? 04:31:59 ssh host --server='killall mosh-server; mosh-server' 04:32:08 it just writes it to your terminal or something 04:32:10 Bike: you dumabass you typed it wrong 04:32:14 well how does it know when to write it 04:32:16 er my cmd shld be mosh host -- ... 04:32:18 like it comes after the motd but before the prompt 04:32:26 Spong Hill is an Anglo-Saxon cemetery site located at North Elmham in Norfolk, England. The largest Early Anglo-Saxon burial site ever excavated, it contains within it 2259 cremations and 57 inhumations. The site at Spong Hill consisted of two cemeteries, a large cremation cemetery and a smaller, 6th century cemetery of 57 inhumations. Several of the graves were covered by small barrows and others were marked by the use of coffins. 04:32:29 oh well mosh-server is responsible for printing the motd 04:32:30 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 04:32:32 killall mosh-server sounds sort of bad since i have my irc client moshed in in another window 04:32:35 as is /usr/bin/sshd 04:32:41 elliott: well use screen 04:32:43 or tmux 04:32:49 i use dtach! 04:32:55 imo i like having multiple windows and complaining 04:32:57 elliott: motd is displayed by the program logging you in. 04:33:20 uh security.debian.org has testing/updates right 04:33:21 let's say yes 04:33:22 Bike: What should I do in NY? 04:33:26 Incidentally, this means a buffer overflow exploit could work using that if somehow you can write motd. :P 04:33:33 shachaf: cocaine 04:33:41 btw is putting "testing" in there unapproved or something 04:33:46 istr using the release name for a reason 04:33:58 so that you'd hve this lovely conversation later 04:34:14 elliott: Basically they tell you not to. The assumption is that you'll be on testing until it becomes stable in the months leading up to a stable release. 04:34:27 Rather than what you're doing, which is basically using testing as a rolling release. 04:34:37 fight the man elliott 04:34:37 okay well i will just set it to jessie 04:34:39 to maintain my debian cred 04:34:40 test the shit out of that software 04:34:41 NO 04:34:45 also to avoid accidentally causing your system to upgrade entirely while you aren't paying attention 04:34:48 I've got it set to sid. :P 04:34:50 which can lead to poor results 04:34:52 you must be on the knifely bleeddestroying edge 04:34:55 sid sounds bad for my server 04:34:59 imo 04:35:03 they should rename sid to yolo 04:35:04 Yeah, not for a server. 04:35:09 I need to de-ubuntu and en-debian my laptop 04:35:10 kmc: pretty sure that's experimental 04:35:12 or rename experimental to yolo 04:35:13 sid's just fine on a desktop. 04:35:14 efbbbbb 04:35:22 pikhq: unless you use nvidia binary drivers lolololol 04:35:29 maybe i should figure out my distro sometime 04:35:40 i use arch locally and debian on my server 04:35:41 i'm pretty sure the software of this thing is just a joke at my expense though. 04:35:41 and i hate both 04:35:49 kmc: Two things: first, I use AMD. Second, surely you'd run those with DKMS. 04:35:50 The following NEW packages will be installed: libsigsegv2 python-six 04:35:51 every time I run dist-upgrade it's like I'm cranking up a large spring which will propell a heavy object at my balls at some indeterminate point in the future 04:35:55 is python-six like python 3 * 2 04:35:57 python six 04:36:04 tangos on your six 04:36:05 i thought they were at python like. three 04:36:06 Meaning that you just get a module recompile each kernel upgrade. 04:36:12 Six is a Python 2 and 3 compatibility library. It provides utility 04:36:12 functions for smoothing over the differences between the Python versions 04:36:12 with the goal of writing Python code that is compatible on both Python 04:36:12 versions. 04:36:12 . 04:36:12 kmc: nixos hth 04:36:15 six is a 2/3 compatibility libraryrrrrrr 04:36:17 BOOOORING IM SNORING AND SNOOZING TO DEATHHHH 04:36:26 kmc: are those "r"s you giving up on how boring it is 04:36:30 because agreed 04:36:30 yes 04:36:41 for some reason in the last few months my 'i don't know what i'm doing' update procedure has said i'm fully updated 04:36:44 fuuuuuuuuuuuuuurp 04:36:46 more like python 0.66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 04:36:49 i guess i should probably be concerned about that 04:36:54 the python of the beast 04:36:55 Python 666? 04:36:59 Bike: what do you even use 04:37:03 ubuntu, i think 04:37:15 i should use nixos on esolangs.org 04:37:15 "W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found" oh i guess that's probably a problem 04:37:16 `factor 666 04:37:18 666: 2 3 3 37 04:37:18 that would be quite 'hip' i think 04:37:23 dyk snakes have livers but it's differently shaped than other animals on account of a snake is shaped like a tube 04:37:27 til this today 04:37:37 kmc: thanks for the info re: snakes being tube-shaped 04:37:48 a delicious tube of meat 04:37:55 kmc: I thought God just cut their legs off in ovum. 04:37:57 nature's slim jim 04:38:00 turns into a jerkcity line if you s/snakes/cocks/ 04:38:02 and then maybe s/ being.*// 04:38:06 a delicious tube of cocks 04:38:07 better: snakes only have one lung so that they can breathe and move simultaneously 04:38:11 major innovation 04:38:23 Bike: innovation.isotropic.org 04:38:31 is that a "phish" site 04:38:32 kmc: what happened to "shachaf: " 04:38:36 tradition 04:38:43 3% [4 findutils 287 kB/624 kB 46%] 18.1 kB/s 1h 15min 32s 04:38:46 so 04:38:50 why the fuck does my server have a shitty connection to the repos 04:38:58 imo my money back 04:39:05 oh maybe it is because i am using the swedish server and sweden hates me 04:39:13 uh i last said "shachaf: " vry recently.................................. 04:39:20 -!- carado_ has joined. 04:39:23 @tell ais523 yo, you get to determine the accuracy of http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=INTERCAL&curid=1040&diff=36183&oldid=35920 04:39:24 Consider it noted. 04:39:26 that never stopped you before 04:39:33 lol sweden 04:39:33 elliott: http://i.imgur.com/I6ROu7Q.png http://i.imgur.com/rqlnSnf.jpg hth 04:39:44 shachaf: i already have those moneys 04:39:46 i want new ones 04:39:49 50 totally legit monqys 04:40:02 -!- augur has joined. 04:40:08 i guess i've probably been using the same software for a few months without upgrading 04:40:09 mnoqy: how legit are you 04:40:14 100% 04:40:15 this will probably destroy me long term or something won't it 04:40:19 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 04:40:33 mnoqy: hmm you better work on that 04:40:39 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:40:39 guys 04:40:41 i want 124% by next friday 04:40:42 what's the cool bsd these days 04:40:44 elliott: man. great edit. 04:40:48 maybe i should switch solidity over to that one 04:40:49 Bike: no 04:40:53 it's the best site 04:40:56 no what 04:40:56 oh 04:41:03 like debian is just so ugh 04:41:05 elliott: Debian kFreeBSD 04:41:07 coppro i need Serious Upgrade Help here not "sites" 04:41:08 also mediawiki 04:41:09 is just so ugh 04:41:17 HOT SINGLES ARE WAITING TO CHAT WITH YOU ABOUT DEBIAN 04:41:22 kmc: imo, debian hurd is a better bsd than debian kfreebsd 04:41:32 are distros even real 04:41:33 elliott: run gnu instead 04:41:34 where am i 04:41:43 kmc: elliott doesn't care about singles anymore. talk to him when you have hot twenties and hot fifties 04:41:44 GNU/BSD? 04:41:51 -!- augur has joined. 04:42:03 excuse me sir the operating system is called called called 04:42:17 Tens and twenties, what's so funny, fucking twenty ten 04:42:24 coppro: pretty sure debian is gnu 04:42:29 elliott: no just gnu 04:42:30 it's explicitly branded as gnu in fact 04:42:33 the real GNU kernel is GRUB 04:42:40 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:42:47 has mosh been ported to grub 04:42:53 well "just running gnu" means you're without a kernel 04:43:00 no, hurd 04:43:02 -!- augur has joined. 04:43:02 * pikhq looks forward to the 20 hot men and women waiting to chat with me about Debian. 04:43:16 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:43:24 Bike: uh Grub fixed the bug that was making Mosh not build, but I dunno if anyone has actually tried it 04:43:28 pikhq: um they want to chat with elliott not you 04:43:30 why don't you use a Truly Free distro like... triskelion? 04:43:33 * kmc will chat with pikhq about Debian, but I dunno if I'm hot? 04:43:43 smooth kmc, smootyh 04:43:44 smoking hot singles the joke is weed 04:43:44 also 04:43:45 smooth 04:44:08 Bike: hang on hang on, that makes you violent 04:44:19 are you the 99% Bike 04:44:20 kmc are you violent 04:44:32 occupyweed 04:44:34 what 04:44:38 oh 04:44:38 no 04:44:40 pseudo hashtag here* 04:44:44 also i dont even smoke much weed :( 04:44:47 but that might change 04:44:51 do you smoke... gana 04:44:52 Bike: I was in Weed, CA! 04:44:52 if i move to SAN FRANCISCO 04:44:53 ganja 04:44:55 ghana 04:45:01 i actually don't know if that's slang for... anything 04:45:03 i'm bad at drugs. 04:45:08 shachaf: my dad has a bumper sticker from there 04:45:18 Weed, CA is also the town they were running away from(/to???????) in that one book. 04:45:30 As I figured out a few years later. 04:45:46 @wn ganja 04:45:46 Bike's dad collects / manufactures weed joke merchandise??? 04:45:47 *** "ganja" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" 04:45:48 ganja 04:45:48 n 1: a strong-smelling plant from whose dried leaves a number of 04:45:48 euphoriant and hallucinogenic drugs are prepared [syn: 04:45:48 {marijuana}, {marihuana}, {ganja}, {Cannabis sativa}] 04:45:49 [4 @more lines] 04:45:56 wow it really is marijuana 04:45:57 "its not a jamaican word and its not slang, its a SANSKRIT(the original indic language) word for hemp. dumbasses." 04:46:09 the original indic language, lol 04:46:18 -!- aloril has joined. 04:46:22 गांजा / গাঁজা 04:46:35 #wow #whoah 04:46:50 also i forgot the name of the language fa- oh right dravidian 04:46:57 fuck you dravidians, sanskriters are in this to win it 04:46:58 #fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 04:47:08 wait. sanskriteers. 04:47:10 yes. 04:47:20 is that a word 04:47:33 i can't believe i'd never thought of it before it;s beautiful 04:48:27 panini was a sanskriteer, we're all sanskriteers deep down 04:48:46 sanscritter 04:48:55 no it's like a mouseketeer 04:48:58 but for sanskritt 04:49:05 paninis what happens when you put a sandwich in a pressure cooker right??? i've never seen one that's just a rumor 04:49:10 -disclaimer- 04:49:18 sounds dangerous 04:49:18 no not the sandwiches, the guy 04:49:21 he invented language 04:49:36 Bike 04:49:38 upgrade solidity 04:49:39 please 04:49:40 i just 04:49:44 don't care about computers any more 04:49:57 dude you are talking to the wrong guy about caring about computers 04:49:58 elliott: hey should i upgrade it 04:50:02 maybe you could find someone on "freenode" who cares? 04:50:05 "inside joke" 04:50:06 -!- augur has joined. 04:50:23 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cangjie2.jpg this is me right now 04:50:29 i am literally like 04:50:33 i'm wearing a suit made of leaves 04:50:34 five fucks away from installing ubuntu 04:50:39 and using the default everything 04:50:52 we're talking using pidgin to irc levels of not caring about computers here 04:51:01 how many fucks per second are we talking here 04:51:05 that's pretty mean! 04:51:06 elliott, no 04:51:07 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:51:14 `addquote five fucks away from installing ubuntu 04:51:17 i know like a billion pidgin users 04:51:18 1032) five fucks away from installing ubuntu 04:51:33 -!- augur has joined. 04:51:36 Bike: they're all disgusting, imo 04:51:54 what if i wrote pidgin in haskell 04:51:55 i use finch which is like hipster version of pigin!!!!! also v. buggy 04:52:08 kmc: ok but you don't use it to irc do you 04:52:09 there are more birds 04:52:11 no 04:52:13 how about like a fucking swallow 04:52:17 i saw birds toay 04:52:21 or is that an ubuntu release or whatever 04:52:22 todayyy 04:52:41 i saw birds toady one 04:53:00 usually i see birds but i don';t tthink i saw any today what a wEIRD day 04:53:17 the brrdless day 04:53:18 21:51 [freenode] shachaf [~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf] requested unknown CTCP OHNO from Bike: 04:53:19 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:53:29 dude cut it out with the copying the irc colours thing it's disturbing 04:53:31 i'm getting good at this color thing. 04:53:52 why do you think the [] are bolded 04:54:01 oops i missed the bars on... hm 04:54:13 21:51 [freenode] shachaf [~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf] requested unknown CTCP OHNO from Bike: 04:54:17 kmc: what window manager do you use 04:54:25 eks moan add 04:55:12 kmc: wow me too What A Coincide 04:55:46 21:51 [freenode] shachaf [~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf] requested unknown CTCP TRAITOR from Bike: 04:55:54 seriously though, ugh, computers 04:55:59 ugggggh 04:56:10 agreed 04:56:32 -!- augur has joined. 04:56:35 i think we could all stand to dijkstra it up for a bit 04:56:43 by which i mean yell at undergrads for being stupid 04:56:58 okay i'll start with Bike 04:57:03 btw why was dijkstra so cool?? 04:57:07 http://www.supermegacomics.com/index.php?i=392 04:57:07 did he like kill someone 04:57:09 and steal their powers 04:57:11 21:56 [freenode] CTCP WHATISGOINGONDOTDOTDOTDOTDOT reply from shachaf: 04:57:13 re: coolness 04:57:14 too easy. 04:57:21 how do i know if i'm a good writer 04:57:23 elliott that's illegal. 04:57:31 kmc: you get paid 04:57:34 Bike: just like the mariḧuana 04:57:41 Bike: um that's a sign of selling out 04:57:51 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BDyFuDxA-I 04:57:51 right 04:57:55 but you can't sell out if you're not good 04:58:02 um 04:58:04 yes you can 04:58:15 so can i pay someone to like 04:58:18 run my computers for me 04:58:22 so i just never have to think about it 04:58:23 ever again 04:58:36 i believe that's referred to as "management" in the sciences 04:58:52 the problem is 04:58:55 or "delegation" 04:58:58 the things i want to do with computers are; 04:59:00 computers 04:59:05 that was meant to be a colon fyi 04:59:06 hmmmm 04:59:11 maybe you should be a tenured professor? 04:59:17 i hear all they do is make grad students do things 04:59:19 on. computers 04:59:25 do astronomers have people to like 04:59:27 kmc: You're talking about handwriting,r ight? 04:59:28 maintain their telescopes for them 04:59:29 about computers! if you'rre a professor of computerrrs 04:59:30 (dijkstra reference) 04:59:34 kmc: Because Dijkstra had good handwriting. 04:59:42 In fact: The best handwriting? 04:59:48 Bike: don't i have to do work for that 04:59:52 elliott: i have an idea: do something with computers that isn't computers. 04:59:56 like what 05:00:00 DON'T 05:00:01 SAY 05:00:01 sociology 05:00:01 BIOLOGY 05:00:04 NO!!!1 05:00:05 oops 05:00:08 that 1 was accidental 05:00:10 now i look like a loser 05:00:13 are you serious 05:00:13 fuck 05:00:15 no 05:00:18 don't make the joke you're about to 05:00:19 i've never seen someone actually type a 1 by mistake 05:00:20 oh ok good 05:00:20 it's not funny 05:00:23 no like 05:00:25 i. what joke 05:00:26 it was by mistkae 05:00:27 what's a joke 05:00:28 i'm serious 05:00:31 the joke would have been 05:00:33 you always look like a loser 05:00:41 elliott: That's not a joke. 05:00:43 elliott you don't look like anything 05:00:46 That's just insulting someone. 05:00:58 It's a popular IRC hobby for some reason but it's not really a joke. 05:01:02 well actually you look like 22:00 < elliott> NO!!!1 05:01:29 I guess you're green. Maybe you could get that checked out. I think it means you're sick? 05:01:46 Bike: fucking fix your client to get rid of that space 05:01:52 i realise you're a biologist so it's hard 05:01:53 but it's important 05:02:06 btw green is the colour for when someone mentions your name 05:02:09 as all cool.theme users now 05:02:09 elliott, i've heard recently from a trusted confidant that re: computers: fuck computers 05:02:12 maybe it's in the default theme too idk 05:02:23 The default theme is yellow. 05:02:26 And it's good. 05:02:36 the default irssi theme is awful 05:02:37 so much blue 05:02:50 elliott why do you think so many things are awful? 05:02:53 were you awfulled as a child 05:03:31 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:03:58 what does awfulling entail here exactly 05:04:20 I don't know. I was never awfulled. 05:04:50 That's why nowadays, I'm not a jerkface like some people who were. 05:06:27 Bike: Calling people a jerkface makes you a jerkface. Jerkface. 05:06:47 I'm sorry to hear that. 05:09:50 imo Bike 05:09:53 you're actually a jerkface 05:09:58 despite alos being a ibciyle 05:10:15 -!- augur has joined. 05:10:24 I don't even have a face. 05:11:11 Bike: imo get a face 05:11:22 look at my nice face: http://slbkbs.org/sb/1.png 05:13:57 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Carpenter_bee_head_and_compound_eyes.jpg 05:16:40 -!- sebbu has joined. 05:17:23 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 05:17:24 -!- sebbu has joined. 05:20:38 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 05:20:46 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:24:09 -!- augur has joined. 05:31:30 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 05:32:40 does anyone know what i should read to learn about bidirectional type checking 05:33:35 -!- augur has joined. 05:34:25 imo write something to teach about bidirectional type checking 05:34:27 it works out the same 05:35:40 well unfortunately I don't quite know what the deal is! 05:35:58 the joke is "bi di re ct io na l\0" 05:38:01 I am not any good at jokes shachaf 05:39:08 elliott: Jokes shachaf isn't any good at you, either. 05:39:28 -!- carado_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 05:42:55 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:46:15 -!- augur has joined. 05:55:28 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:56:10 -!- augur has joined. 06:05:42 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:08:23 -!- augur has joined. 06:12:44 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:13:12 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Neverhood&diff=535583641&oldid=534367896 :-( 06:13:17 oerjan: Just look at that. 06:13:38 It's not vandalism. It's worse. 06:14:28 -!- augur has joined. 06:14:33 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:15:18 -!- augur has joined. 06:16:00 Maybe it's spam, though. 06:16:38 wikilante 06:18:09 oerjan: I mean, just look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/67.190.221.99 06:18:43 These people also linked to that website and seem to speak English about as well as the people on that website. 06:20:26 oerjan: This spam really irritates me. And the awful self-promotion. 06:20:37 oerjan: I'm almost tempted to edit it by myself. 06:20:42 oerjan: Almost. 06:20:51 not quite tempted 06:20:52 but almost 06:21:30 mnoqy: yes 06:22:07 Remember to wear a hostmask 06:22:38 mnononononononoay 06:22:42 mnoid 06:22:47 s/a/q/ 06:22:55 mononononononononqy 06:23:24 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:23:45 karaoqy 06:35:06 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: Gotta go). 06:38:12 `quote don't want 06:38:14 143) ais523, what is "MS Publisher"? Vorpal, you don't want to know. Vorpal: be glad that you don't know the answer Vorpal: "horrible" \ 164) Hmm. I want to try vanilla extract now, but I don't want the alcohol \ 241) Why do you want to have sex in everything? I don't want. \ 492) 06:38:27 `run quote "don't want" | grep zzo 06:38:29 241) Why do you want to have sex in everything? I don't want. 06:38:39 Oh. 06:38:39 Indeed 06:38:44 Didn't he have another quote? 06:44:18 -!- augur has joined. 06:44:19 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 06:45:15 The following packages will be REMOVED: less 06:45:18 kmc: why does debian want to do this 06:51:23 the new hotness is more 06:51:41 Because http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/4/42/110Weezing.png 06:54:11 shachaf: do you actually use more 06:54:26 more or less 06:55:26 http://www.joystiq.com/2013/04/16/armikrog-is-the-new-clay-adventure-game-from-the-neverhood-creat/ 06:56:26 -!- FreeFull has joined. 07:01:58 The following packages have unmet dependencies: man-db : Breaks: less (< 456) but 444-4 is to be installed 07:02:01 ?????? 07:02:19 why does man-db break less < 456 but less >= 456 isn't present 07:12:35 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:20:05 because aptitude can't do dependencies 07:22:07 i'm not using aptitude 07:24:37 uh, then because package maintainers are morons 07:24:54 and 444-4 confuses debian versionin 07:24:57 *versioning 07:25:23 or something 07:25:26 I dunno 07:25:31 I'm grasping at straws 07:25:34 because it's half past 3 07:25:39 and I don't want to be up in 4 hours 07:25:41 so I'm staying up later 07:25:45 does that make any sense? 07:26:29 no 07:27:39 "Luthiers seem, however, to be undeterred by either practicality, or by the limits of human anatomy, and have produced instruments with even more necks." -- Wikipedia 07:27:52 is there a blog with just good quotes from wikipedia 07:27:54 i'd like to read it 07:28:46 pikhq: is it supported to just get a single package from sid 07:28:52 it looks like the relevant version of less is in sid 07:28:55 and i'd quite like to have less 07:29:08 elliott: it could also be that they broke testing again 07:29:13 though that seems unlikely 07:29:22 you should go to #debian 07:29:23 well it's probably my fault for doing dist-upgrade and saying yeah sure remove less 07:29:28 more IRC channels will always help 07:29:31 aqs opposed to saying no i don't need the new man-db right now 07:29:31 oh why the fuck did you do that? 07:29:39 well because i wanted to know why it wanted to uninstall less 07:29:45 so i figured i'd upgrade and then try and install less 07:29:47 and see the error i got 07:29:48 and now i know! 07:31:44 elliott: try installing less and man-db simultaneously 07:32:08 oh wait, yeah 07:32:17 wait, nvm 07:32:32 yeah, so man-db breaks less < 456 07:32:46 so you'd have to downgrade man-db or something? 07:33:22 or just figure out why the fuck less is installing something ancient 07:34:31 i hear downgrades "aren't supported" 07:34:41 it seems like the less in testing is just < 456 and it's as simple as that 07:34:43 but sid has = 456 07:34:47 (==?) 07:35:13 that seems very wrong 07:35:32 something is weird here 07:35:37 That's weird; packages.debian.org suggests that man-db just suggests 'less' with no version requirements. 07:36:04 (444-4 is the version of less in wheezy for sure.) 07:36:19 fizzie: habemus debiam, dude 07:36:25 fizzie: packages does not list breaks: dependencies 07:41:11 Well, debian/control of man-db_2.6.2-1_amd64.deb (which is what's in wheezy) does not have any Conflicts: about less either, and just "Suggests: less". 07:41:30 -!- zzo38 has joined. 07:41:34 fizzie: well, wheezy isn't testing any more 07:41:37 it's ~jessie~ now 07:43:24 Oh, right. I guess that version (2.6.3-3) indeed does break less << 456. 07:48:37 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=695361#39 I guess they just like breaking things. 07:51:33 fizzie: what do I do :( 07:52:54 elliott: install more imo 07:52:56 Possibly you just wait for them to fix it instead of messing everything up? I mean, the last message promises a NMU in "about 24h". 07:53:18 fizzie: well I kind of want less 07:54:52 I guess you could install the sid less 456-1, then. 07:55:52 I don't know how to do that :( 07:56:13 brian 07:56:14 brian 07:56:15 brian brian 07:56:42 I used to have an apt pinning setup for doing that sort of stuff, but no longer. (The easy but crummy way is just to download and dpkg -i the .deb, of course.) 07:57:14 elliott: download the package from packages.debian.org 07:57:17 dpkg -i it 07:57:51 that's a bit manual for my tastes!! 07:57:56 http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html is the fancy way. 07:58:41 (Though I suppose these days it'd be an /etc/apt/preferences.d/99pinning file, instead of lines in /etc/apt/preferences.) 07:59:05 elliott: you wouldn't like organs then 08:12:51 -!- Taneb has joined. 08:17:47 Taneb: Did you finish? 08:17:51 I haven't even worked on it all day. 08:18:21 I've been asleep 08:18:39 I would have worked on it in my dreams, but my brother told me to sell my bike chain on eBay so I got distracted 08:19:23 You can look at what I have so far. 08:21:14 what kind of meter is this anyway 08:21:54 alternating paeonic tetrameter and iambic pentameter 08:22:00 or something 08:22:34 why 08:29:33 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 08:33:00 Taneb: English is awful. :-( 08:33:15 That it is 08:33:27 Is Australian also awful? 08:33:34 Nah, Australian is much nicer 08:34:30 imo everyone should learn Australian 08:34:48 Uh, isn't it illegal? 08:35:23 Taneb: Maybe you should finish what I started? 08:35:30 I've lost the desire to write more. 08:35:35 msg me 08:36:57 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 08:45:44 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 08:55:14 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 08:57:53 -!- zzo38 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:03:26 -!- zzo38 has joined. 09:08:00 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 09:35:57 @tell Taneb for saturn I think we'll use SFML; it is for C++ and allows you to create multiple windows... btw, how's hs-dcpu coming along? 09:35:57 Consider it noted. 09:36:05 ...I'm right here 09:36:05 Taneb: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. 09:36:12 @messages 09:36:13 ThatOtherPerson said 16s ago: for saturn I think we'll use SFML; it is for C++ and allows you to create multiple windows... btw, how's hs-dcpu coming along? 09:36:14 hi Taneb 09:36:17 how's the thing going 09:36:35 shachaf: you have gobby open, you can look at it 09:36:41 Taneb: hello person who is right here! 09:36:42 Yes. 09:59:43 -!- ThatOtherPerson has quit (Quit: Page closed). 10:57:00 Taneb: what's a good name for a language 10:57:47 Slaley? 10:58:15 Taneb: hmm nope 10:58:45 ^words 10:59:43 `words 10:59:52 aoy 11:00:22 `words --esolangs 20 11:00:24 bloux tlwnn 1337 cobol fillia tran flum misc geom cobol snack p1eq novich stling dog piet rainfuck bak arcal minimal 11:00:50 rainfuck 11:01:26 cobol 11:02:48 `words 50 11:02:53 sustnaulte fiftymiya tion peria foca labo humm den dulationg koutbroydtre dextrach thi lisoldr diwickli sity orn sty laxing cta caulye laba incilit godi maysan kaswcd 11:03:26 I like diwickli 11:03:41 How about Portinatx? 11:04:38 hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 11:04:59 `which words 11:05:01 ​/hackenv/bin/words 11:05:08 `file bin/words 11:05:09 bin/words: a /usr/bin/perl script text executable 11:05:51 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 11:20:16 `words --gaelic --esolangs 50 11:20:17 undeviat sendstuit top hadh-creic lon sot goinn stàmp eidh xbf pavity froillgolfuck acanack! cisde dhànainn rin atter òr faran trith 2050706 fiod rain versepollt chàrlan 11:20:33 `words --lojban 50 11:20:36 Unknown option: lojban 11:20:39 Yay 11:20:52 -!- nortti has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 11:32:42 -!- TodPunk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 11:32:54 -!- TodPunk has joined. 11:34:52 -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 11:36:39 -!- oklopol has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 11:47:12 -!- Jafet has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 11:47:51 -!- Jafet has joined. 11:56:33 -!- nortti has joined. 12:00:39 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 12:06:49 -!- carado_ has joined. 12:38:06 -!- Koen_ has joined. 12:38:30 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 12:50:07 -!- ais523 has joined. 12:58:12 -!- carado_ has quit (Quit: Leaving). 13:00:31 -!- carado has joined. 13:04:13 -!- oerjan has joined. 13:08:23 Maybe they were interested in the other kind of esoterica <-- i hear the dalnet channel is tiny, it probably doesn't have the critical mass to keep the people passing to it through here :( 13:08:59 oerjan: clearly we should promote it on the wiki. 13:11:04 elliott: hm i find it somewhat less likely someone seeking the other kind of esoterica would find the wiki before something actually relevant 13:12:07 (yes i realize you were joking) 13:12:23 2050706 is probably the best Gaelic word. 13:14:56 this is a part of the gaelic alphabet i did not know about 13:16:26 @tell Tanea ThatOtherPerson: we don't talk about the other kind of esoterica <-- i'm pretty sure it has happened hth 13:16:26 Consider it noted. 13:17:40 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 13:20:42 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 13:23:38 oerjan: So, over 8% <-- sometimes i wish i could remember what i have said 13:25:49 back when it was entirely made of small animals <-- watch phineas and ferb hth 13:26:23 ntdh 13:27:31 but it has an organization made almost entirely out of small animals! 13:27:42 admittedly only one of them gets much screen time 13:28:23 (also they're not all small, i remember there was a whale) 13:31:33 hm, I appear to be unable to understand scoping and binders while this tired. 13:33:04 that sounds severe 13:33:16 i suspect using ski won't help matters 13:34:37 Shouldn't that be HABEMVS DEBIAM? <-- it's church latin not classical latin, i think lower case is permitted hth 13:34:54 @tell pikhq Shouldn't that be HABEMVS DEBIAM? <-- it's church latin not classical latin, i think lower case is permitted hth 13:34:54 Consider it noted. 13:35:51 wow you're so helpful! 13:35:58 You should win an award 13:38:29 -!- carado_ has joined. 13:38:31 -!- carado has quit (Quit: Leaving). 13:38:43 -!- carado has joined. 13:38:48 last night on norwegian tv there was this guy who had never won any awards, so they gave him an award for never having won any before 13:39:02 (it may have been a rerun. wait, is that ironic?) 13:39:49 i guess we could email alanis morisette to ask 13:40:01 *+s 13:40:17 `? C/C++ 13:40:19 C/C++? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 13:40:20 i've also never won any awards 13:43:04 elliott: i assume you are waiting for the Succ Succ Succ how many is it again Zeroth Haskell obfuscation contest? 13:43:28 hm that could be fun to participate in 13:45:05 the only competition where category theory is essential to win 13:45:22 -!- carado_ has quit (Quit: Leaving). 13:55:04 @hoogle generalCategory 13:55:05 Data.Char data GeneralCategory 13:55:05 Data.Char generalCategory :: Char -> GeneralCategory 13:57:43 good thing I'm not actually human, nya! <-- clearly you are a very few human 13:58:53 oerjan: hth-percentage hth 13:59:11 shachaf: okthxth 14:08:47 `welcome oerjan 14:08:49 oerjan: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 14:09:30 drive-by welcoming 14:11:23 Isn't `welcome the correct response to "thx"? 14:11:27 `quote are welcome 14:11:29 No output. 14:11:36 `run quote zzo38 | grep welcome 14:11:38 819) `welcome Rawlie * zzo38 has joined #esoteric thank you You're welcome. 14:14:58 @tell bike Amateur SF/Fantasy Artists Who Can't Get Breasts Right <-- redundant <-- see the footnote hth 14:14:58 Consider it noted. 14:15:35 `relcome yiyus 14:15:39 ​yiyus: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 14:17:06 `relcome is the best type of `welcome 14:17:09 ​is: the: best: type: of: `welcome: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 14:21:00 `? FireFly 14:21:02 FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. 14:21:15 um, ,. boring 14:23:30 I agree 14:28:13 ugh 14:28:17 I need to hire someone to think for me 14:29:18 @tell ais523 yo, you get to determine the accuracy of http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=INTERCAL&curid=1040&diff=36183&oldid=35920 <-- it's consistent with the html version of the manual on muppetlabs, at least 14:29:39 (i had already checked) 14:29:55 @messages? 14:29:55 ais523: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. 14:29:58 @messages 14:29:58 elliott said 9h 50m 35s ago: yo, you get to determine the accuracy of http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=INTERCAL&curid=1040&diff=36183&oldid=35920 14:30:32 looks like the hiring people to think for me thing is going well 14:30:49 just wait until you get my bill 14:30:56 elliott: yeah, I just checked the version of the manual that got proofread against the paper manual 14:31:11 the correction is indeed correct 14:31:17 incorrection 14:31:28 oerjan: now next, about this type checker... 14:31:35 (obviously I don't actually have the paper manual, but an electronic copy that's been confirmed as matching it is nice) 14:31:40 (even if I don't know the person who confirmed it) 14:36:08 @tell bike also i forgot the name of the language fa- oh right dravidian <-- i hope you are not implying that sanskrit is dravidian, it is indo-european hth 14:36:08 Consider it noted. 14:36:17 almost forgot the hth hth 14:37:26 oerjan: i started saying hth in #haskell until elliott rebuked me :'( 14:37:57 elliott: YOU ARE JUST DELAYING THE INEVITABLE HTH 14:38:13 the inevitable hth: another band name 14:39:34 fizzie: Please make sure your regexp is case-insensitive. hth 14:39:50 * ThatOtherPerson considers going off the hth deep-end 14:40:18 hthththththth 14:40:43 argh noise i'm out of here 14:41:00 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Later). 14:41:07 oerjan: NO 14:42:53 Chthulhu 14:43:16 oerjan: ☝ good one, eh ☝ 14:44:32 `y hth 14:44:35 hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ hth \ ht 14:44:54 hthp://oerjan.no/index.hth 14:46:06 we have… an abbreviation for yes? 14:46:08 why? 14:46:18 `wc bin/y 14:46:19 ​ 3 4 134 bin/y 14:46:45 I'd use the hth protocol 14:47:13 `cat bin/y 14:47:15 ​ELF...Ht$..>............8.......HHu hmm, that's a very short binary 14:47:26 `run echo $'#!/bin/bash\nyes "$@"' > bin/z; chmod +x bin/z; wc bin/z 14:47:30 ​ 2 3 21 bin/z 14:47:52 That's shorter and it's not even golfed. 14:48:25 `run ls -l bin/y 14:48:27 ​-rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 134 Apr 14 03:00 bin/y 14:48:29 it's not a binary though 14:48:53 `run echo $'#!/bin/bash\nyes "$@" #ë' > bin/z; chmod +x bin/z; wc bin/z 14:48:54 Uh, what is it, then? 14:48:56 now it is 14:48:57 ​ 2 4 25 bin/z 14:49:06 a...script? 14:49:35 `run file bin/{y,z} 14:49:37 bin/y: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1, statically linked, corrupted section header size \ bin/z: Bourne-Again shell script text executable 14:49:47 A binary script! 14:50:12 "corrupted section header size2 14:50:19 I get it, bin/y is a golfed ELF file 14:50:25 ais523: It's great, isn't it? 14:50:29 Jafet++ 14:50:30 -!- Taneb has joined. 14:51:25 Taneb: You are demoted to Tanec. 14:51:33 Never! 14:51:36 Taneb: you have messages as Tanea 14:51:43 -!- Taneb has changed nick to Tanea. 14:51:46 @messages 14:51:46 oerjan said 1h 35m 21s ago: ThatOtherPerson: we don't talk about the other kind of esoterica <-- i'm pretty sure it has happened hth 14:51:52 -!- Tanea has changed nick to Taneb. 14:52:02 Tanea is demoted to Taneb. 14:52:43 Taneb: you are promoted to Tanec! 14:52:54 We need you to do that so that we can Tanec++ 14:53:10 Tanec/c++ 14:54:52 `karma Tanec 14:54:58 @karma Tanec 14:54:58 Tanec has a karma of 1 14:55:03 Tanec has 0 karma. 14:55:10 @karma Tanec++ 14:55:11 Tanec++ has a karma of 0 14:55:15 oh right 14:55:18 Tanec++ 14:55:22 @karma Tanec 14:55:23 Tanec has a karma of 2 14:55:38 whoa 14:55:41 mnoqqy mnoqy 14:56:00 @ask mnoqy where are you i just made an amazing discovery hth 14:56:01 Consider it noted. 15:00:40 > 2^-3 15:00:44 Not in scope: `^-' 15:00:44 Perhaps you meant one of these: 15:00:44 `-' (imported from P... 15:00:49 > 2**-3 15:00:53 Not in scope: `**-' 15:00:54 Perhaps you meant one of these: 15:00:54 `**' (imported from... 15:01:17 > 2^(-3) 15:01:21 *Exception: Negative exponent 15:01:27 > 2**(-3) 15:01:31 0.125 15:02:04 > [1+2**(-i) | i<-[1..63]] 15:02:09 mueval: ExitFailure 1 15:02:10 mueval: Prelude.undefined 15:02:28 > [1+2**(-i) | i<-[1..53]] 15:02:33 [1.5,1.25,1.125,1.0625,1.03125,1.015625,1.0078125,1.00390625,1.001953125,1.... 15:02:57 -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 15:03:03 > 1+2**(-52) 15:03:06 1.0000000000000002 15:03:10 > 1+2**(-53) 15:03:14 1.0 15:03:27 > (1+2**(-53)(-1 15:03:30 :1:15: parse error (possibly incorrect indentation) 15:03:30 tromp: my favourite fact about IEEE floating-point numbers 15:03:39 > (1+2**(-53))-1 15:03:43 0.0 15:03:45 is that if you interpret an IEEE float as an int, add 1, and interpret the result as a float 15:03:49 you get the next-larger float 15:04:09 (as a side-effect, this means that integer sorts work on floats too) 15:04:15 so the mantissa carries right into the exponent? 15:04:26 This sounds like a useful feature 15:04:29 tromp: yep 15:05:12 while the mantissa resets to the implicitly set 0.5 15:05:37 > product [1+2**(-i) | i<-[1..52]] 15:05:40 2.3842310290313713 15:07:02 > product [ 1 + 2**(-i) | i <- [1..500] ] :: CReal 15:07:03 -!- Taneb has joined. 15:07:07 mueval: ExitFailure 1 15:07:07 mueval: Prelude.undefined 15:11:19 "1/2 QPochhammer[-1, 1/2]" 15:11:47 Stop giving made-up names as answers, mathematica 15:21:14 > (!!1) <$> transpose [show $ foldr1 (\a b -> a * b `div` 10^2^n) [ 10^2^n + 10^2^n `div` 2^i | i <- [1..3*2^n] ] | n <- [1..]] 15:21:18 "23842310290313717241498992886783972387716195165084334576921015079891812930... 15:43:11 -!- nooodl_ has joined. 15:47:53 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 15:50:13 -!- impomatic has left. 15:51:42 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 15:55:20 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 15:56:38 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 15:57:58 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 16:00:01 -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 16:28:08 -!- Taneb has joined. 16:29:26 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 16:31:32 -!- Bike has joined. 16:33:00 -!- sebbu has joined. 16:33:31 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 16:33:31 -!- sebbu has joined. 16:34:39 -!- comex has changed nick to RainbowDash. 16:36:15 -!- RainbowDash has changed nick to comex. 16:37:38 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 16:39:50 -!- Bike has joined. 16:42:56 hmm 16:43:12 you know, i think it's actually my torrent client that's been causing all these disconnects 16:43:18 damn those it services bastards 16:43:48 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:58:10 -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 17:02:19 -!- Taneb has joined. 17:08:27 -!- boily has joined. 17:09:34 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 17:11:25 -!- Bike has joined. 17:14:10 ...that was a surprisingly useful Google search 17:14:19 I searched for 'god hate cricket mathematician' 17:15:02 -!- pikhq has joined. 17:17:13 And it told me GH Hardy 17:19:31 he hated cricket? 17:19:32 Bike: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. 17:19:51 "cricket mathematician" alone gives me hardy 17:20:39 Bike: god hated him 17:20:58 o 17:23:08 -!- trout has changed nick to variable. 17:25:21 -!- augur has joined. 17:25:39 i'm slightly worried by the fact you didn't remember he was called g h hardy though... 17:26:46 "the ramanujan guy" 17:28:26 -!- conehead has joined. 17:32:03 shachaf: What I posted (a) was case-insensitive, but (b) wasn't a regexp. 17:33:06 Phantom_Hoover: short lapse of memory, I'm afraid 17:33:15 I do have a sore arm 17:39:25 -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 17:40:57 -!- oerjan has joined. 17:41:34 Is it "return the last written value" or "return the lastly written value"? 17:41:58 last should qualify as an adverb. 17:41:58 meanwhile, asimov on heinlein: "He always pictured himself a libertarian, which to my way of thinking means 'I want the liberty to grow rich and you can have the liberty to starve.' It's easy to believe that no one should depend on society for help when you yourself happen not to need such help." 17:42:19 lastly is also an adverb, but I assume it has a different meaning. 17:42:31 Like "lastly he gave in" 17:42:38 -!- heroux_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 17:42:49 i'd say the first one, mroman 17:43:02 or maybe "return the value written last" 17:43:29 -!- oklopol has joined. 17:44:20 or maybe... return the previously written value? 17:44:30 -!- heroux has joined. 17:44:44 music is playing on my computer 17:44:47 where is it coming from 17:44:48 where 17:47:37 we're talking using pidgin to irc levels of not caring about computers here <-- wait if this is a permanent change i find this disturbing 17:48:10 ThatOtherPerson: the speakers? 17:48:14 ThatOtherPerson: outer space hth 17:48:27 ttrdh! 17:49:29 d is _so_ useful in acronyms, covers all possibilities 17:49:45 "thanks, that really did help"? 17:49:56 I think that's what it expands to 17:50:07 that was my best guess too 17:50:27 I'm glad we sorted out ThatOtherPerson's problem 17:50:51 FireFly: yyaqr 17:51:09 yeah, your acronym quieted rage 17:51:33 That is much better than what yyaqr originally meant 17:51:55 odwwacoia 17:51:57 dtaae 17:52:29 cam! 17:52:35 itwhean............ 17:52:41 clearly 17:52:49 AnotherTest: why do dwarfs think acronyms are evil i don't understand hth 17:53:24 bta! 17:53:38 FireFly: evolved a new what? 17:54:05 acronyms 17:54:08 duh 17:54:26 wwdyss 17:54:28 -!- conehead has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 17:55:54 wtfdyjs 17:56:14 ɥʇɥ 17:56:21 I, too, wonder why David Young would asy so 17:56:23 say so* even 18:00:57 wwjdijccw 18:02:01 what would jesus do if jesus couldn't cartwheel 18:02:35 I don't think there is any evidence that he could 18:02:43 Bike: that's 2/3 of the words correct hth 18:03:18 -!- Taneb has joined. 18:03:25 Hey Taneb! 18:03:30 Hi 18:03:38 tanebest 18:04:19 -!- conehead has joined. 18:06:10 I'm the tanebest chap in this channel 18:07:36 Taneb is the best 18:07:55 -!- Taneb has quit (Client Quit). 18:08:03 nooooooo 18:08:15 Taneb why hast thou forsaken us? 18:10:53 http://25.media.tumblr.com/1b8d2c4a34586cadc33ccb29f651072c/tumblr_mlxy2qN0tb1snfhwio1_1280.png 18:12:11 -!- ThatOtherPerson has left ("No."). 18:15:19 Bike: an upstanding comic 18:17:00 oerjan: I use pidgin for IRC, hth 18:17:24 olsner: wat tdh 18:18:34 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 18:18:35 olsner: oh. that's irrelevant to my disturbance hth 18:21:50 ok, I don't know what is relevant to your disturbance, but hth anyway 18:22:46 * ThatOtherPerson must find way to stop the hthocalypse before it is too late 18:23:11 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Later hth). 18:24:59 -!- mnoqy has joined. 18:26:19 shachaf: amazing discovery??? 18:41:32 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 18:42:13 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 18:42:28 -!- Bike has joined. 18:42:31 hth is so ambiguous 18:42:40 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hth 18:43:58 hand 18:44:09 looking at 4... questions are rising 18:44:29 I like "used sarcastically after answering a dumb question to a person of inferior mental qualities." 18:44:36 Does adding recursive module calls to Verilog make it Turing complete? 18:45:34 hth btw 18:45:47 (meaning number 1) 18:46:19 I hereby introduce a new notation: hth#(number) 18:46:23 hth#1 18:46:41 removing ambiguity? what the hell kind of fun is that 18:46:51 i thought referring to definitions was usually done with square brackets 18:47:06 Bike: it wasn't BNF 18:47:12 oh sorry 18:47:15 oh yes 18:47:19 you're right 18:47:27 hth[1] 18:48:48 olsner: you can still use hth if you want to be ambiguous 18:49:03 disclaimer: this is your own responsibility 18:49:23 -!- Bike_ has joined. 18:51:41 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 18:54:59 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 18:55:29 -!- augur has joined. 18:55:33 -!- Bike_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 18:57:44 -!- Bike has joined. 19:09:10 I hereby propose the acronym "aah" for "ambiguous acronym here" 19:09:23 That'll be fun 19:10:21 I hereby wish to extend FireFly's proposition: "nah" for "no ambiguity here" 19:11:54 I second the motion. 19:12:13 may I amend hth to "Here There be Hambiguity"? 19:12:14 boily: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. 19:13:19 @tell Taneb that's acknowledged as a priority. I'll get it done when I'll have time, which means... uhm... somewhere this summer, probably. 19:13:19 Consider it noted. 19:14:09 I hereby accept the third amendment proposed by boily 19:14:21 (nah btw) 19:18:26 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 19:22:02 "foo#n" is the WordNet notation for "sense n", at least in some contexts. 19:22:45 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 19:29:03 here's a short guide to making bad jokes in english: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/language/theenglishwespeak/2012/05/120522_tews_72_long_face.shtml (hth) 19:30:44 -!- Taneb has joined. 19:32:31 I thought of some kind of "balanced logic" where if P has the real number #P where #(P -> Q) = #Q - #P but how well would such things possibly working? 19:33:04 `learn aah ambiguous acronym here 19:33:09 I knew that. 19:33:20 `learn nah no ambiguity here 19:33:24 I knew that. 19:33:40 `? aah 19:33:42 aah ambiguous acronym here 19:34:03 `learn hth here there be hambiguity 19:34:07 I knew that. 19:34:23 hex the ham? 19:35:55 to hex the ham is when you have over 0x2328 hambiguities. 19:36:38 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Quit: MindlessDrone). 19:38:28 If ^ is linear logic dual, then in linear logic does (A -o ?B) like (!(B^) -o (A^)) ? 19:38:32 -!- ThatOtherPerson has set topic: #esoteric is always on topic; except for those momentous occasions when it is not on topic, which happen frequently | Habemus Debiam! | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/. 19:39:12 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 19:40:49 -!- Taneb has set topic: #esoteric is always on topic, some values of "topic", "on", and "always"| Habemus Debiam! | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/. 19:40:53 -!- Taneb has set topic: #esoteric is always on topic, some values of "topic", "on", and "always" | Habemus Debiam! | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/. 19:43:09 Are my questions difficult? 19:57:54 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:58:20 -!- augur has joined. 20:08:58 I just looked at the sensors output after the kernel upgrade, and I noticed it changed. Seems I have an intrusion alarm in my computer. I know for a fact there isn't one though 20:09:04 intrusion0: OK 20:09:04 intrusion1: ALARM 20:09:06 two even 20:09:29 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:09:40 -!- augur has joined. 20:10:53 -!- Bike_ has joined. 20:11:07 -!- Bike_ has quit (Client Quit). 20:11:23 -!- Bike_ has joined. 20:13:42 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 20:13:53 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 20:16:22 -!- ais523 has quit. 20:21:12 -!- conehead has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 20:23:10 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 20:30:11 Wow I'm starting to get genuinely angry at libertarians in general. 20:30:22 This is weird, I don't normally get angry about things like this. 20:30:40 did a libertarian take your lunch money 20:33:11 no 20:33:27 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 20:33:30 brb trying to work out how to unflatteringly analogise libertarianism in terms of lunch money 20:45:17 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 20:45:57 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 20:45:57 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 20:46:23 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 20:48:14 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 21:19:27 21:22:50 What characters of my Dungeons&Dragons game are you unlike? 21:23:05 the barbarian 21:24:36 No, I mean the specific game that I play in, and am recording. There is no barbarian (so far). 21:24:49 -!- NihilistDandy has joined. 21:24:56 Oh. 21:30:45 That's kinda hard to answer 21:31:45 Are my questions difficult? ← Well... 21:36:08 * ThatOtherPerson dies 21:36:11 -!- ThatOtherPerson has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:36:26 that's pretty difficult 21:38:45 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:39:41 I hope he'll get resurrected 21:44:48 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:58:21 -!- variable has changed nick to constant. 22:06:45 constant: is there a schedule from which you change nicks? like some sort of luni-solar calendar from another star system floating in the Great Quite Cold Interspace? 22:07:11 boily: its mostly whenever someone makes a comment about my nicks 22:07:18 or whenever I get annoyed from the highlightes 22:07:37 zzo38: do you run the D&D game online, or is this an in-person thing? 22:08:41 I'd say zzo38's questions are 50% out-of-the-blue, 30% random and 20% difficult. 22:10:28 i'd go with 70% out of the blue, 70% random, and 70% difficult 22:11:14 * Fiora constructs a venn diagram in her head 22:11:24 kmc: but yours are metric percents, instead of imperial ones. 22:11:28 obv. 22:11:42 > take 4 $ repeat "constant" 22:11:45 ["constant","constant","constant","constant"] 22:12:42 constant: In-person, although I record them on the computer (using TeX). 22:12:43 NihilistDandy: that language is that 22:12:47 imperial percentages are out of 124, except when you're talking about gains, when it's out of 86 22:12:48 zzo38: ah, neat 22:13:03 constant: Haskell 22:13:10 traditionally called a "ha-persent" 22:13:33 NihilistDandy: for some reason I didn't remember 'take' 22:13:41 * constant hasn't done haskell in a long time :( 22:13:42 Bike: and 19 percents makes a 'portion' 22:13:51 sure, if you're /british/ 22:14:02 portins are more important 22:14:04 then you combine 37.4 percents to make a stone 22:14:18 18 percents to a portin makes way more sense 22:14:31 btw, why the fungot 14? that's like the only time that factor appears in the whole english units system. 22:14:33 boily: don't ask me to call on her for which, edward admitted in one of our neglected gardens, and mumbled over his body one of the earliest folklore of all the bizarre monstrosities in gilman's dreams, nothing filled him with greater panic and nausea than this blasphemous and diminutive hybrid, whose image flitted across his vision in a form a thousandfold more hideous. science, already oppressive with its shocking revelations 22:14:49 (AAAAAAAAAAAAH! fungot has a twilight style! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAURGH!) 22:14:51 boily: another photograph evidently a fnord taken in deep shadow was of the most repulsive primordial customs in the cryptic rhythm was that which immediately followed. the floor creaked and the speaker hove in sight and smell. when the road fnord again there are stretches of fnord that the delusive notion of the violet fnord had got abroad. these simple people were quick to imagine they had seen a car shoot briskly out of the 22:15:08 constant: You should do some soon! :D 22:15:13 boily: that was a reform introduced back in the 80s, nobody actually uses it except voice recognition people 22:16:38 constant: You can read it if you want to; the text and macro file are both available for download over the internet. 22:16:57 (And if you have TeX, you can even use it yourself) 22:20:41 kmc: Well, I suppose, out of the blue, random, difficult is not mutually exclusive so 70% of each is possible. 22:20:59 (I am not sure whether or not these number are correct, though.) 22:24:54 we need to get all Big Data on the #esoteric logs 22:24:57 hadoop that shit 22:25:52 * boily smacks kmc with a supercomputing, high-performance, aerodynamic server blade 22:25:58 i thought that was fizzie's job 22:26:45 boily: that's why we must move to the cloud 22:26:49 hard to hit someone with a cloud 22:27:03 whatif it's filled with hail 22:28:27 kmc: what about a supermassive, supersonic, superluminal cloud? 22:30:44 -!- Bike_ has joined. 22:31:33 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 22:31:40 O: 22:32:02 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 22:32:27 not sure if my fingernails started growing faster or I just lost track of the passage of time 22:32:33 does this make me a PKD novel character 22:32:54 is a facsimile of your sister hitting on you? 22:33:25 i don't think so 22:33:37 maybe an early one then 22:49:14 so, #esoteric is 22:50:58 -!- nooodl_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 22:51:25 -!- mnoqy has joined. 22:52:31 is what koen 22:52:33 what are you saying 22:52:56 just that we exist 22:52:59 it's profound really 22:53:31 -!- NihilistDandy has quit (Quit: NihilistDandy). 22:55:23 *cough* I'm Canadian. I resent that existence remark. 22:55:45 would that make you a nihilist? 22:56:40 ah no. I still enjoy the occasional burger. 22:57:06 nihilanada 22:58:13 -!- boily has quit (Quit: food!). 23:11:29 bike / kmc: http://techreport.com/review/24767/the-next-atom-intel-silvermont-architecture-revealed this is super interesting... interestingly intel says that out of order execution and hyperthreading take roughly the same resources, silicon-wise 23:12:26 Instead, the netbook craze came and went, <-- and left me behind, i guess 23:13:56 wow, the pipeline diagram is cool 23:14:18 they diagrammed up all the pipeline stages and showed the misprediction path and everything 23:14:32 cool 23:15:58 "Each Silvermont module is fed by a single voltage plane, but oddly enough, each core in the module can run at its own frequency, independently of the other one. When speeds differ, the shared L2 cache will run at the higher of the two frequencies." 23:16:13 wow. that seems crazy 23:16:25 like, sharing a cache between two chips clocked at different rates, wow 23:16:29 unified clocks are so last millenium 23:16:49 "Also upgraded is the loop stream buffer, which detects loops that will repeat, buffers the decoded instruction sequence (up to 32 macro-ops in Silvermont), and feeds the sequence into the execution engine. The chip can then shut down its fetch and decode units while the loop executes, to save power." 23:17:15 wow. 23:17:40 that's a thing they've had in a few intel chips for a bit, I think? I remember the core 2 had something like that 23:17:58 it was something like (fuzzy memory here...) 23:18:13 pentium 4 had a cache that stored decoded uops, instead of actual instructions ("trace cache"?) 23:18:14 the power must only drop for like, a millisecond 23:18:32 core 2 added a loop stream buffer thing to make loops faster, because they didn't botleneck on the decoder 23:18:36 I think 23:18:56 and then like either nehalem or sandy bridge or something added a decoded uop cache /again/ (but in addition to the regular instruction cache?) 23:19:04 but then they kept the loop thing because it could save power 23:19:14 btw where the fuck are intel's names pulled from 23:19:32 I have no idea O_O 23:20:00 "nehalem" sounds like hebrew (because it's like "nephilim", i am the best languager) 23:20:30 I think intel's done some insane things with super fine grained power management stuff 23:20:58 like I remember reading that someone measured a 300-500 cycle "warmup time" for AVX instructions, where they'd go at half speed for a while at first 23:21:10 which probably means they shut down half of the FPU on that chip until AVX gets used 23:21:36 unfortunately I don't think they write much about these things >_< 23:21:47 -!- augur has joined. 23:22:09 "Nehalem, meaning "the place where people live" in the Salish language" 23:22:18 i thought it was hebrew too 23:22:24 ugh, and i actually like salish 23:24:07 elliott: should i work for this company http://ripplnmobile.com/ they are gamifying and appifying EVERYTHING 23:26:57 also they have a sweet-ass manifesto video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5AJMK6U_Us 23:27:04 this must be one of those joke startups right 23:28:06 they will not stop until millions of people have created abundance and freedom 23:28:15 The entire conversation is GAMIFIED 23:28:37 help i dont understand anything anymore 23:28:41 "The first ever mobile platform that was built to REWARD people for their own social graph." i love how many of these things are "what people have been doing for millions of years, but we show you graphs of it!" 23:28:49 mnoqy: 'welcome to future, pls enjoy your stay' 23:29:41 so is this like... a pyramid scheme, but i'm paid in 50% off burrito coupons 23:29:44 i could get behind that 23:31:27 this video is about as meaningful as the iron man 3 ones 23:32:15 it's like in those movies about the future and they have a fictional advert on a future-tv for something really stupid 23:32:25 + idk internet culture or something 23:32:28 + buzz words 23:32:35 yes 23:32:38 yeah i get that feeling a lot mnoqy 23:32:49 we're a MOVEMENT. not a COMPANY. 23:33:04 ok this is actually awesome 23:33:12 i'm afraid!! 23:33:50 the revolution is coming....... and it has................ social graphs 23:34:44 -!- NihilistDandy has joined. 23:34:45 finally a movement that benefits wealthy, socially connected people in the first world 23:37:19 I was getting sick and tired of movements benefitting poor, lonely people in developing nations. 23:55:21 Bike: this video is about as meaningful as the iron man 3 ones 23:55:30 are you refering to the live feed of that guy's brain? 23:55:41 no, the mandarin's 23:55:49 oh right 23:55:55 MISTER PRESIDENT *flashing images of 80s protests* 23:56:39 Z-machine doesn't have a bitwise XOR instruction.