00:03:28 I LOVE HAVING MONEY 00:03:38 This is going to go to my head, I think 00:03:49 i hear that's the root of something 00:03:57 happiness, right? 00:04:11 Minus one, maybe? 00:04:12 how much money are you giving to charity 00:04:23 Not enough 00:04:25 "If the Euclidean algorithm requires N steps for a pair of natural numbers a > b > 0, the smallest values of a and b for which this is true are the Fibonacci numbers FN+2 and FN+1, respectively." 00:04:31 neat 00:04:45 i think i actually understand why that is which is a weird feeling 00:04:48 i was looking at the description of euclidean algorithm and thinking it looked fibonacci-ish 00:04:53 Presumably me donating to a charity some money because I owe a friend that money and that friend wanted me to donate it to that charity instead of giving it to him doesn't count, right? 00:05:07 i don't think you "'get"' tzedakah sgeo 00:05:09 i like that the complexity of computing fib(n) recursively is O(fib(n)) 00:05:24 "We're taking a break from Weekly Sales" well that didn't take long. 00:05:40 I did donate some money to Doctors Without Borders at the beginning of the year 00:05:57 kmc: i wonder if you could draw some analogy with exp and derivation 00:06:03 ? 00:06:17 you know, exp being its own derivative 00:06:30 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Euclidean_algorithm_running_time_X_Y.png 00:06:33 oh 00:07:01 knuth goes over the complexity of the euclidean algorithm in taocp2, it's scary 00:07:10 Euclidean_algorithm_running_time_X_Y.png looks like one of those laser shows they have. 00:07:14 http://murileemartin.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/glennbeckpenalty-600px-01.jpg anyway 00:07:19 it would be a good album cover 00:07:25 You know what the love of money is? Silly. Money in and of itself is... meaningless if you don't use it, on something 00:07:43 Charity, leisure, to give as an inheritance, etc. 00:07:44 what sort of money are we talking here 00:07:52 fiat money, evidently 00:07:58 but if you don't know what to do with it yet, collecting money is a p. good default 00:08:04 Bike: Is that an album cover he's presenting? 00:08:14 http://murileemartin.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/glennbeckpenalty-600px-08.jpg close 00:08:21 that would be a good album cover 00:09:09 yeah 00:09:32 todo: steal glenn beck's whiteboard?? i'm sure he archives them right 00:10:06 Sgeo: and have you been spending your money on anything cool. since you've said you love having money but also 00:11:44 http://murileemartin.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/glennbeckpenalty-600px-09.jpg 00:12:02 Bought my gf Portal and Portal 2. Bought myself an ep of Doctor Who, and plan on doing that instead of watching on TV 00:12:19 that's a start, i guess 00:12:19 @tell Taneb I've written up a specification of some of the API of the game engine: https://github.com/T-and-T/LD26/blob/master/spec.md; I'll probably create the basic structure before going to bed 00:12:20 Consider it noted. 00:12:24 Repaid my debt that I owed my friend (by giving the money to a specific charity) 00:12:48 Went out to Dave & Busters with a friend. Went out for dinner with some friends 00:13:17 i love how half of the 'pseudocode' in Wikipedia is valid Python if you move around a few semicolons 00:13:49 @tell Taneb and you can then start filling in stuff for the AIEntity and PlayerEntity and such, and add stuff to the spec 00:13:49 Consider it noted. 00:14:30 Bought a book on web security 00:15:28 @tell Taneb oh, and what resolution should we use? 00:15:29 Consider it noted. 00:16:01 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 00:19:19 LD26 is the dose needed, statistically speaking, for killing 26% of the population. 00:21:17 what do you mean its not like staying up late kills you i mean really i am feeling just fine and normal hahahahahahahahahahahahaha 00:21:26 00:21:26 -!- carado has joined. 00:21:30 elliott: well said 00:21:35 ty 00:21:41 it accurately represented my feelings at the time of writing 00:22:26 -!- carado has quit (Client Quit). 00:23:00 For some reason that reminds me of http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Fisher_Price:_A_Retrospective 00:23:12 -!- sirdancealot has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 00:23:37 POTATO 00:23:44 i saw a potato on that website 00:24:57 haha 00:25:03 ... 00:25:07 ok dude 00:25:09 i'm already bored of this 00:25:13 you're in that mode of tireness where nothing you say is funny 00:25:19 sorry 00:26:15 uh guys 00:26:29 Yes? 00:26:31 I just found some kinf of scar behind my left ear 00:26:42 ThatOtherPerson, kill them all 00:26:45 like if I had had plastic surgery or something 00:26:54 what if I'm not me?! 00:27:01 kill them all 00:27:17 Why? 00:27:17 (don't kill them all, leave a few for later) 00:27:28 because you're not really you 00:27:32 you're one of them 00:27:35 they have to pay 00:27:49 -!- nooga has joined. 00:28:03 who's them 00:28:13 all of them 00:28:20 if you knew that, would you be in this situation? 00:28:22 those that you should kill 00:31:10 -!- nooga has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:32:48 -!- nooga has joined. 00:32:59 I'd rather not, if it's all the same to you. 00:33:25 kmc, SWEDEN: YOUR THOUGHTS 00:33:39 ThatOtherPerson: are you me 00:33:42 I think you're me 00:33:45 check your ears 00:33:46 -!- carado has joined. 00:33:52 Koen_: how tired are you? 00:33:59 well i'm about to go to bed 00:34:12 he's so tired 00:34:15 they're all so tired 00:34:19 they need to rest 00:34:38 I don't think internet relay hypnosis is a thing 00:43:02 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?"). 00:49:04 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 01:08:39 -!- sirdancealot has joined. 01:11:35 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 01:14:04 -!- nooga has joined. 01:17:48 -!- sirdancealot has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 01:21:51 -!- sirdancealot has joined. 01:30:00 Is Pi a good movie? 01:30:18 yes 01:31:14 eh 01:31:18 it's a movie you should see 01:31:24 i don't know if that's the same thing as a 'good movie' 01:31:33 I remember it being disturbing as hell 01:31:49 note that it contains wanton crimes against mathematics 01:32:16 ...name a movie that has mathematics as a theme and doesn't 01:33:27 Donald in Mathmagic Land 01:33:28 which crimes? 01:33:57 it's kind of inaccurate about the history of music though 01:34:02 hate crimes 01:37:59 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has joined. 01:40:36 -!- kmc has set topic: Happy Ed Balls Day everyone! | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/. 01:40:57 kmc, there's a bit where someone has apparently read out every 216-digit number 01:41:50 kmc: what's Ed Balls Day? 01:42:06 http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3374/happy_ed_balls_day 01:42:43 that's quite the meme 01:42:46 Maybe whoever read all of them is... really old 01:42:52 Phantom_Hoover: ah yes 01:45:40 http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/4/13/9/enhanced-buzz-18948-1365859313-1.jpg i see, i see 01:46:13 > 10 ** 216 -- yes I know it's less than this. Or less than twice this, if you count negatives 01:46:15 1.0e216 01:46:21 welp 01:46:37 Erm, that didn't quite do what I wanted 01:46:39 well played, floating point 01:46:41 what 01:46:42 * Sgeo feels like an idiot 01:46:47 Sgeo: hint it has a log of digits 01:46:49 lot 01:46:55 what would you conceivably have wanted to do 01:47:13 Oh, it did do what I wanted to do 01:47:29 sgeo................. 01:47:38 > "1" ++ take 256 ["0"..] 01:47:39 I didn't entirely recognize that 216 and 1e216 are different numbers 01:47:40 Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Types.Char' 01:47:40 with actual type... 01:47:45 er 01:48:09 > "1" ++ (take 256 ["0"..])oh 01:48:13 Not in scope: `oh' 01:48:13 Perhaps you meant one of these: 01:48:13 `or' (imported from ... 01:48:13 ... 01:48:28 i'm really good at this. 01:49:04 > "1" ++ take 256 $ repeat '0' 01:49:06 Couldn't match expected type `[GHC.Types.Char]' 01:49:06 with actual ty... 01:49:15 fine. fine 01:51:38 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has changed nick to Nisstyre. 01:55:06 :t repeat 01:55:09 a -> [a] 01:55:25 :t take 256 $ repeat '0' 01:55:26 [Char] 01:55:35 Oh 01:55:53 > "1" ++ (take 256 (repeat '0')) 01:55:55 "10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000... 01:55:59 parens never let me down. 01:56:04 anyway http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2013/04/absurd-pitches-pull-out-the-hayek-and-polanyi-lesson.html 01:56:12 > "1" ++ (take 256 $ repeat '0') 01:56:14 "10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000... 01:58:44 Bike: nice 01:58:45 nike 02:00:17 @tell Taneb the basic skeleton is done, pick a function or object and start filling it in! https://github.com/T-and-T/LD26 02:00:18 Consider it noted. 02:01:14 -!- ThatOtherPerson has quit (Quit: Leaving). 02:02:12 not sure about the "free market is best" implication but, an amusing list 02:02:47 "Except that some of them were actually supported by the government (e.g., Google & Tesla)" "Palantir was one of the CIA’s venture fund’s recipients" hahaha 02:03:07 also it's not like governments never try absurd things and follow through way past the point where a reasonable person would have given up 02:03:12 they are particularly known for doing just that 02:04:01 they're usually miserable failures but so are most startups 02:04:02 ed balls day reminds me of 02:04:04 Bqhatevwr 02:04:12 "In-Q-Tel of Arlington, Virginia, United States is a not-for-profit venture capital firm that invests in high-tech companies for the sole purpose of keeping the Central Intelligence Agency, and other intelligence agencies, equipped with the latest in information technology in support of United States intelligence capability" uh 02:04:17 uh? 02:04:18 uh. 02:05:32 governments will try a bunch of crazy skunk works projects in areas which particularly interest the ruling classes (mostly defense and how to take stuff from poor people) 02:05:45 free market will build consumer tech or whatever else makes money 02:06:08 did you know the bolsheviks were partially sponsored by the okhrana? government waste at work 02:06:27 nice 02:06:37 why? 02:06:55 "we've got to divide all these anti-tsarist outfits somehow. let's pick an especially stupid one to prop up and split the rest" 02:07:01 heh 02:08:23 they also wrote the protocols of the elders of zion. they were really good at encouraging later violence i guess? 02:09:30 "Just as the Okhrana had once sponsored trade unions to divert activist energy from political causes, so too did the secret police attempt to promote the Bolshevik party, as the Bolsheviks seemed a relatively harmless alternative to more violent revolutionary groups. Indeed, to the Okhrana, Lenin seemed to actively hinder the revolutionary movement by denouncing other revolutionary groups and refusing to cooperate with them." you can't make th 02:10:00 uh, the jews in the jew base at the center of the moon wrote the protocols 02:10:02 everyone knows that 02:10:16 Bike: you can't make th, indeed 02:10:19 it's literally impossibel to make th 02:10:21 þ 02:10:35 yes. fuck th 02:11:00 það 02:20:58 -!- nooodl_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 02:29:32 -!- augur has joined. 02:34:36 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 02:36:01 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:37:45 -!- sirdancealot has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 02:43:12 -!- elliott has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:43:25 -!- elliott has joined. 03:01:39 who were the other revolutionary groups though 03:02:12 i can only think of the mensheviks and Left SRs off the top of my head 03:02:24 oh, and anarchists i suppose. 03:02:25 were there anarchists too 03:02:27 yep 03:02:53 red army, white army, black army, green army 03:02:59 probably some trade unionists hanging out. maybe some real wackos on the right too, like Black Hundredists but less useful to the tsar 03:03:23 you named the actual colors they all used, right? like that wasn't a joke 03:03:29 yeah 03:03:37 green army was peasants who wanted to be left alone 03:03:54 i think the later soviet union makes a lot more sense when you put it in the context of the russian civil war because that shit was fucked 03:13:56 -!- sirdancealot has joined. 03:30:42 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 03:41:32 -!- Bike has joined. 04:00:49 -!- ais523 has quit. 04:14:40 https://twitter.com/jobs/positions?jvi=o0m7Wfw9,Job "Desired Skills:... You consider Firefly one of the best TV shows ever" 04:14:43 * kmc facepalm 04:16:50 -!- mnoqy has joined. 04:17:01 "well, actually I kind of prefer ghost in the shell" "sorry, you're just not the kind of person we need right now" 04:17:30 we need you to write out a short Firefly fanfic on this whiteboard 04:17:48 How oddly specific. 04:18:00 That's the sort of thing that would detract me from a company... 04:18:20 I mean really, who gives a shit about your taste in TV shows for employment purposes? 04:18:51 Bike: I wonder what they would do if it was slash 04:18:52 twitter, linux kernel engineer division 04:19:18 it's not an actual requirement, it's just a thing for them to say "we want nerds like yoU" 04:19:37 maybe its so you can JIVE with all the twitter linux kernel engineers who talk all about how firefly is so great and if u dont think so you'll be SO PUT OFF and you wil;l INVARIABLY PUT THE M OFF TOO 04:19:43 that first sentence seems ungrammatical. "Twitter is seeking an experienced software engineer obsessed with evolving Linux kernel in revolutionary ways." 04:19:45 and 04:19:47 nobody wants that 04:20:04 Bike: i dont think thats a real sentence. nobody should say that. 04:20:21 Revolving Linux kernel in evolutionary ways 04:20:27 yeah 04:20:57 Are twitter employees called twats 04:21:03 one can hope 04:24:37 presumably ghost in the shell would be just as good, the point is that they only want people in the mainstream of 'nerd culture' and consider that on par with ability to perform the job, as a decision factor 04:24:42 which is gross 04:24:46 bad for diversity and just... bad 04:25:19 only they probably don't see it that way, they see it as 'look at us, we're nerds like you' 04:25:48 heh heh nerd culture 04:25:50 yeah that's what i got out of it 04:26:31 firefly is all right 04:26:38 tbh I don't spend many cycles thinking about firefly, one way or the other 04:26:45 id be pretty put off of a job offer that pandered to nerd culture bc uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurgh nerd culture..........i dont want all of my job-friends being awful nerds!! 04:27:01 i've never seen firefly but i've heard things about it like: it's a tv show?? 04:27:07 yes 04:27:16 they're space outlaws / cowboys 04:27:24 it has snappy dialogue and interesting characters 04:27:25 if i had a tech company i'd put a bunch of football jargon in job postings and talk about throwing pigskins around, just for variety 04:27:34 it's not like... transcendently important television 04:27:42 Bike: then you will get brogrammers instead 04:27:44 can't win bro 04:27:56 is that... is that a real thing 04:28:03 signs point to yes 04:28:03 But if the job posting did not have this requirement and you don't care about joss whedon shows and you sign up for that job and it becomes a source of friction for whatever reason 04:28:10 isn't that worse??? 04:28:39 how about advertise to rockstar ninjas using a combination of dorky dated rock terms and authentic japanese 04:28:55 kmc: okay then how about a better example 04:28:59 I like shugo chara? :P 04:29:23 Bike: you should include more obscure references, jargon about october revolution political factions or earthworm digestive processes 04:29:25 ew cooties 04:29:25 single any one show out in a job posting and you've got a bad job posting 04:29:38 * Fiora shoots the cootie cannon at Bike 04:29:40 Can you make shugo chara sound manly in 140 characters 04:29:44 probably anything to do with tv in a job posting about twitter linux kernels is Bad News 04:29:55 also I do like your scenario Fiora regarding going in just to pick a fight about Firefly 04:29:56 kmc: it's like nadsat but more ridiculous. i should write a novel 04:30:00 wear a shirt that says FIREFLY SUCKS 04:30:09 kmc: that's not what I meant, but XD 04:30:11 just those words in big letters, nothing else 04:30:18 i'd apply for a kernel development job that talked about earthworms 04:30:19 maybe 04:30:22 Grave of the firefly 04:30:22 wellll 04:30:27 not if i have to work with biologists [EYES BIKE] 04:30:36 * Bike throws eyes at elliott 04:30:42 -eyes- 04:30:43 THIS IS WHY I FUCKING HATE BIOLOGISTS 04:30:46 :'( 04:30:54 "Much as the humble earthworm eats dead things and shits out dirt, you will be eating kernel oops reports and shitting out LKML patch emails" 04:30:58 -roll- 04:31:01 :'(::::: <- pile of eyes Bike threw at me 04:31:02 Jafet: in all seriousness I think it's a lot more fun to make eextremely manly things sound girly 04:31:06 ꙮ 04:31:10 :'(:::::. Bike what did you do 04:31:12 where is the missing eye 04:31:37 what sort of eyes are we talking her 04:31:38 e 04:31:39 right i'm submitting this as a use-case for combining multiocular-o above 04:32:00 mnoqy: mostly shrimp tbh 04:32:12 shell gasoline is filled with natural oils and plant extracts, designed to revitalize and exfoliate your car, helping your morning drive feel brighter, smoother, and healthier. 04:32:19 (see, it's great) 04:32:19 what sort of shrimp are we talking here 04:32:33 let's say mantis shrimp (they aren't shrimp) 04:32:43 Combining above should be a binary operator 04:32:47 Fiora: the joke is: i actually have no idea what exfoliation is 04:32:57 "the removal of the oldest dead skin cells on the skin's outermost surface" i see 04:33:07 the loss of leaves (or, in some cases, pieces of bark) from a plant 04:33:16 the process responsible for breaking up particle aggregates 04:33:18 wow i bet that would be hard to describe without some biological research 04:33:27 a granite dome 04:33:32 i think its that one 04:33:37 exfoliation is when something was foliate but hten it's not 04:34:28 having a granite dome on your car would be weird. 04:34:30 you're weird, fiora. 04:34:47 what :< 04:35:02 im sure granite domes could be a perfectly reasonable fad 04:35:14 like idk wizard hats and parachute pants 04:35:42 wait there's a relevant ph quote here i think 04:35:44 `quote rejuvi 04:35:49 No output. 04:35:50 !! 04:35:51 `quote rejuv 04:35:53 No output. 04:35:54 help 04:35:56 `quote smoot 04:35:58 212) [...] reyouthismootherate [...] 04:36:00 ok there 04:36:07 good quote. 04:36:21 `pastelogs reyouthismootherate 04:36:46 `pastelogs smoot 04:37:03 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.25087 04:37:16 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.13753 04:38:08 I want to `addquote [...] reyouthismootherate [...] <-- very civil of you elliott 04:38:49 looks like I am good at achieving my goals 04:39:41 why doesnt anyone say "smoot" without putting an h at the end 04:39:50 what a boring pastelogs 04:40:00 `pastelogs smoot[^h] 04:40:15 smoot 04:40:16 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.12036 04:40:37 oh. right. a smoot is like 170cm 04:41:09 mnoqy: you think the fact that people don't do that is important 04:41:14 Oliver Smoot went on to be Chairman of ANSI and President of ISO 04:41:15 no joke 04:41:27 mnoqy: you think that's a point 04:41:32 How appropriate. 04:41:33 mnoqy: but I think you'll find 'smoot 04:41:36 get it 04:41:40 it's moot 04:41:42 get it 04:41:53 were all of those lines a setup for that 04:41:57 yes 04:42:58 elliott you're terribible 04:43:42 the bible of terribleness 04:43:44 terribible: horror movie??? 04:44:10 hint: its the regular bible 04:44:44 wow kmc 04:44:46 edgy religious commentary 04:44:55 we're going to get banned by the govt 04:46:21 * Bike imagines the Bible as slasher film with OT God as the killer and... david as the final girl maybe?? 04:46:36 final girl? is that a slasher film thing 04:47:00 yeah 04:48:48 i was thinking terribible would be more like.....theres a bible in a hotel room but then it eats people......or you could have a bible for a bizarre cult and it has mind-controlling properties and whoever reads it cannibalizes their families in a ritual to summon the great undoing 04:49:10 wasn't that silent hill or something 04:49:11 ... oh geez I've never read "terribible" as having 'bible' in it -_- 04:49:34 I would read the terribible 04:50:13 the eating one or the other eating one or the normal bible (does it have eating?) 04:50:23 People eat things in the normal bible, yes 04:50:43 mnoqy: i like the bible that eats people one 04:50:53 it sounds appropriately 'b (c? d?) movie' 04:50:54 e movie 04:50:55 z movie 04:51:14 "z movie"'s a term that people have used in all seriousness, fyi 04:51:40 they shouldn't 04:51:49 there's no way humans can even comprehend how gloriously bad a z movie would have to be 04:52:00 it's used to refer to like, plan 9 04:52:02 to justify skipping all those letters 04:52:19 or manos, you know, mst fodder 04:52:34 pfft surely plan 9 just counts as b movie or maybe c movie 04:52:44 i haven't even seen it and i categorically disbelieve that it warrants the label z 04:52:46 z for zardos 04:53:05 what did I even start 04:53:29 haha if you google "z movie" you get the film about greece, awesome 04:53:58 Stock footage of a rocket launch is played in reverse to depict the landing of an alien spacecraft. What appears to be shag carpet is draped over several actors shambling about at a snail's pace, thus bringing the monstrous "creeping terror" to the screen. The movie also employs a technique that has come to be synonymous with Z-movie horror: voiceover narration that paraphrases dialogue being silently enacted onscreen 04:54:05 i dunno elliott this seems "pretty bad" 04:54:13 okay but look Bike 04:54:18 there are 26 letters in the alphabet 04:54:31 if you think how bad B movies are in comparison to A movies and then extend that towards C movies 04:54:36 just imagine how awful it has to get to reach all the way to Z 04:54:49 probably no person is capable of creating anything that awful 04:55:35 how about the star wars holiday special 04:56:02 that sounds like Turkish Star Wars 04:56:13 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%BCnyay%C4%B1_Kurtaran_Adam 04:56:46 good film (it's not) 04:57:17 "I'm not sure a human did film Plan 9. It doesn't seem to see things as a human." 04:57:36 "The villain tells them he is actually from Earth and is a 1,000 year old wizard. He tried to defeat Earth, but was always repelled by a shield of concentrated human brain molecules, which looks like the Death Star from Star Wars." 04:57:41 my favorite worst film is Alan Smithee though 04:57:56 because it's about a guy trying to not be credited for a terrible film 04:58:30 i found that film on wikipedia once 04:58:34 and it just blew my mind 04:58:40 i know, right 04:58:52 some kind of postmodern epic 04:58:56 like you have to realise this is during one of those 6 am times when you've given up on everything and are just clicking wikipedia links you don't even care about any more 04:58:59 and: it's fucking terrible 04:59:17 and then you read 04:59:19 hollywood crawled up its own ass and found mainly shit 04:59:20 The film's creation set off a chain of events which would lead the Directors Guild of America to officially discontinue the Alan Smithee credit in 2000. Its plot (about a director attempting to disown a film) eventually described the film's own production; director Arthur Hiller requested that his name be removed after witnessing the final cut of the film by the studio. 04:59:38 and then there's not really any other links that make sense to click on any more because you just read that 04:59:53 "welp, guess i reached the end of human knowledge" 04:59:57 Is that like the genuinely bad version of Adaptation 05:00:07 A director by the name of Alan Smithee has been allowed to direct Trio, a big-budget action film starring Sylvester Stallone, Whoopi Goldberg, and Jackie Chan. The studio recuts the film, and when Smithee sees the results (which he describes as being "worse than Showgirls") and realizes that he cannot use a pseudonym (because the only one allowed is "Alan Smithee") he steals the film and goes on the run, threatening to burn it. 05:00:28 ok Trio sounds pretty amazing 05:01:50 "8.1.1 Ha-Trempist (The Hich Hiker or An American Hippie in Israel) (1972)" this article's looking pretty good 05:03:25 hich hiker 05:05:59 @tell ais523 looks like abusefilter is blocking users now; we might want to disable it if it spams up recent changes too much 05:06:00 Consider it noted. 05:08:12 @tell ais523 also, do filters 2 and 3 not have warning messages? the case of an actual person adding a link to their own userpage without there being a newline seems vaguely plausible, I don't know what it'd look like if they tried 05:08:12 Consider it noted. 05:16:18 oh no i missed so much $$A+$$ bad movies conversation 05:17:06 yep 05:17:11 we enjoyed having it without you 05:17:16 i... don't know what that means 05:17:54 yes 05:18:04 i need to see more bad movies. not counting mst3k the only great movies i remember seeing are gamebox 1.0 and hercules in new york 05:18:20 i also need to see more mst3k 05:18:52 how about rifftrax 05:18:59 never seen =/ 05:19:34 i could count all the mst3k i've seen on my fingers (maybe need to include toes?) if i could dang remember what they were. it's been long enough that i can probably rewatch them all and still enjoy them so i'm putting all the mst3k i remember enjoying on my to-watch list 05:20:05 i hvaen't even watched mst3k i think i'm too lazy to 05:20:21 sort of feel like reading about awful stuff is better than actually consuming it, even by proxy 05:20:25 pod people was my first mst3k and it's good so i recommend it 05:21:06 gosh i even have a mst3k tab open i just gotta finally get around to watching it 05:21:27 this one's uhhh "prince of space" i don't think i've seen it before 05:22:11 -!- ogrom has joined. 05:22:25 guess i'll watch it now so i don't dang forget 05:22:28 ~again~ 05:23:22 bye 05:23:42 bye(?) 05:25:19 hello 05:25:21 hi 05:25:36 sup 05:25:54 http://25.media.tumblr.com/bb840b5cc1d32d4436cede48f4bcde0e/tumblr_mlw2vsXwG81qzqvm2o4_1280.gif is this sup 05:31:07 no 05:32:17 what 05:38:49 it's 6:30 :( 05:39:03 №pe 05:53:50 -!- conehead has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 05:56:21 -!- zzo38 has joined. 06:00:39 Do you know how to properly color the tree structure now? 06:46:00 I estimate the one million dollar wedge in Wheel of Fortune to be worth only a few dollars. 06:53:19 -!- Jafet has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 06:54:06 What do *you* think????!??? 06:54:18 what do i think 06:54:33 good question 06:54:55 if i had to color a tree, i think i'd play it safe and go brown for the trunk and green for the leafs 06:55:58 I think you are correct, but it isn't what I meant. 07:08:21 In the tree I have described, neither brown nor green are valid. 07:10:09 -!- Bike has quit (Quit: leaving). 07:10:54 -!- Nisstyre has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 08:16:55 Now I added triad registers into Internet Quiz Engine, so each register can have up to three pieces. 08:23:51 Balanced ternary is confusing. 08:24:23 Well, it is an optional feature, and not all of the registers have to use it. 08:24:48 oh my line was no in reply to you 08:24:52 just a comment in general 08:25:47 Well, I suppose it can be confusing. And it is good that it is not in reply to me, because I didn't mean balanced ternary anyways. Do you use balanced ternary for anything? 08:27:48 zzo38, no, not really. I'm just trying to figure it out as I got nothing better to do. 08:28:12 I don't know any practical application for balanced ternary in this day and age. 08:28:48 Also there seems to be balanced ternary gray code. That sounds fun. 08:31:36 * FireFly is reminded of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_for_operations_with_functions 08:38:50 * Vorpal looks 08:40:16 Oh looks like it used balanced ternary indeed 08:52:22 Balanced ternary computers are pretty cool 08:55:16 Tere is also the Setun. 08:55:25 s/T/Th/ 09:02:47 -!- TodPunk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:02:59 -!- TodPunk has joined. 09:26:36 -!- ogrom has quit (Quit: Left). 09:41:09 -!- nooga has joined. 09:47:40 Wtf is gvfs-monitor-dir and why is it using 1.4 GB RAM? 09:47:46 * Vorpal kills the process. 09:48:07 I wonder if someone made a modern balanced ternary VM 09:53:16 -!- carado has joined. 09:58:47 PulseAudio refused to start a while ago, due to some sort of "inotify: Too many files" error. 09:59:34 Also I managed to get some sort of a inotify max_user_watches error out of Dropbox too; had to bump the limit up. 09:59:41 Don't know if there's some sort of a leak of them. 10:00:41 Your fault for using pulseaudio 10:01:17 I doubt it's PulseAudio leaking anything, given that (a) it was not running. 10:01:53 OSS, Alsa and Jack are clearly superior 10:03:21 In general it works well for me, and I can juggle streams from headphones to dinky computer speakers to the S/PDIF output, without having to figure out, for each application separately, how to change the output device; something ALSA couldn't do. (I guess with .asoundrc + pcm.default, but wouldn't that mean a restart of the application in question?) 10:03:34 (Jack would probably work well, but I have ugly experiences about it from years past.) 10:04:13 Sorry, pcm.!default. (That always reads like "not default" for me.) 10:10:47 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 10:11:07 Also, I dreamed that Ubuntu 13.04 came with GCC 5.x, and they promised GCC 6.x for 13.10. 10:11:14 I suppose... that's not true, then. 10:11:26 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 10:11:27 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 10:12:44 fizzie, I never figured out how to send stereo streams with pulse audio to the rear output on my SB Live 10:12:52 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 10:13:02 fizzie, why would I want that? better DAC than on the front jack 10:13:11 So I just use ALSA. 10:13:20 For vlc that is 10:13:37 Easy to switch vlc around, as well, it is available in the menus 10:14:03 fizzie, also, strange dreams 10:14:23 «In the Japanese language, the word sake refers to Japanese liquor, while the beverage called sake in English is termed nihonshu (日本酒, "Japanese liquor").» 10:16:16 Vorpal: It's kind of bad when it comes to multiple ALSA devices on a single card, that's true. 10:16:33 fizzie, yeah I have a ton on my SB Live 10:17:32 I have the headphones connected to a USB dongle (much less noisy than the onboard sound; don't have a dedicated sound card in this box), and that's a separate "card", so even PA's limited configuration is enough. 10:17:34 fizzie, http://sprunge.us/ASCN 10:17:53 That's a lot of devices. 10:18:33 fizzie, I use my earbuds in the Intel HDA port on the front, and my studio headset in the rear channel of the SB Live. 10:18:41 http://sprunge.us/aRSf so dinky. 10:19:06 fizzie, you want -L for listing PCMs 10:19:29 Bah, that just has the silly alsa surround-this surround-that names. 10:19:37 fizzie, for arecord: http://sprunge.us/TXfU 10:19:55 I also have a gameport on the SB Live 10:20:15 Heh, seems that I got the card numbers in different order than they usually go; it's normally so that onboard sound is 0 and card 1 is the bt878; while card 2, when it exists, is the USB dongle. 10:20:30 This time I happened to have it connected at boot-time, that probably explains why they're the wrong way around. 10:20:51 right 10:21:23 "USB Device 0xccd:0x77", doesn't even know a name for it. 10:21:35 fizzie, also my mobo doesn't like my sound card, I sometimes need to reload the emu10k1 kernel module, after the kernel decides to disable the interrupt line it is using. 10:21:41 due to stray interrupts 10:21:46 never happened on my old mobo 10:22:01 (lsusb knows it's a "TerraTec Electronic GmbH Aureon Dual USB", wonder why ALSA can't get that information.) 10:22:11 Because lsusb is user space? 10:22:20 And ALSA is kernel space 10:23:10 fizzie, update-usbids updates the user space USB ID database, you can probably find a call to that in your crontab or /etc/cron.some-duration/ 10:23:14 I guess; but they could've built in a mechanism in the USB audio class that'd let the device provide a name string. 10:23:18 similar to update-pciids for lspci 10:23:57 fizzie, should have been in the USB system overall then, not just the audio class 10:24:54 fizzie, I think "card 2: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]" is the thing on my GPU 10:24:57 maybe 10:26:27 The onboard graphics chipset I have (Radeon something-or-other) has an audio device, but I have it disabled these days; the graphics card doesn't have any HDMI holes. 10:27:11 My graphics card has two HDMI, two DVI and one display port or something silly like that 10:27:28 (one of the DVI is DVI-I the other a DVI-D) 10:27:46 Can you push audio over DP? I'd guesstimate so. 10:27:53 Apparently. 10:28:16 Maybe 10:28:25 "-- up to 8 channels of 24 bit 192 kHz uncompressed PCM --"; well, that's quite a lot. 10:29:10 What if you put the sampling rate down? Do you get more channels or not? 10:29:34 Probably not. 10:29:40 (But I wouldn't know.) 10:31:08 I think it's comparable to HDMI; while you can only fit two channels of uncompressed PCM over S/PDIF; surround sound needs Dolby Digital or DTS or other such things. 10:32:13 -!- sebbu has joined. 10:32:46 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 10:32:51 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 10:32:51 -!- sebbu has joined. 10:35:30 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 10:39:11 fizzie, isn't S/PDIF optical or something? 10:39:59 There's both optical and copper (coax) cable variants of it. 10:40:08 (The protocol is same in both.) 10:40:13 I wonder which one my SB Live has 10:40:18 I know it has a S/PDIF port 10:40:36 The coax cable variant tends to be an orange RCA connector. 10:40:52 Hm, I do not remember the port color 10:40:57 SB Live 5.1 anyway 10:41:32 The optical thing is "natively" a TOSLINK connector (a sort of a rectangular thing), but quite often these days it's integrated in a regular 3.5mm stereo jack. 10:42:13 Definitely a separate jack in my case 10:43:53 yeah the connector is not circular. 10:44:05 Then it's probably the regular TOSLINK one. 10:44:18 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TOSLINK.jpg looks like that at the male end. 10:44:37 There's a coax S/PDIF jack on my motherboard back panel, which I think is not terribly common. (I certainly don't mind, though.) 10:45:43 why are all the connectors on the back 10:45:47 hard to reach 10:46:10 The laptop's got one of those combo "3.5mm line out / optical SPDIF" dealies, and it's always-on, so there's a permanent red light coming out of one of the four 3.5mm jacks on the side, whenever the sound isn't muted. 10:46:22 fizzie, ouch 10:46:41 It's not all that bright, but certainly noticeable in the dark. 10:46:43 omg new lyttle lytton 10:46:54 fizzie, can't you just mute that channel in alsamixer? 10:47:29 Vorpal: I mostly run Windows in the laptop, and haven't bothered to navigate enough dialogs to disable it. 10:47:35 ah 10:47:42 I'm sure it's in there somewhere. 10:48:43 (The USB dongle also has an optical digital output like that.) 10:50:48 I wonder if anyone makes a splitter so that you can plug in both an optical TOSLINK cable and a regular 3.5mm thing at the same time to one of those jacks. 10:51:24 heh 10:56:02 -!- Tritonio_ has joined. 10:59:15 -!- Tritonio has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 10:59:40 "sd 6:0:0:3: [sdg] Write Protect is on" huh. 11:00:14 Every other piece of music is a performance of 4'33" where someone just happened to be playing sometime else at the time. 11:00:27 fizzie, sdg? Fancy 11:00:28 how many hdds 11:00:32 -!- arcatan has joined. 11:00:47 I only have up to sdd 11:01:03 Vorpal: Just three; but it's from a memory card reader that generates four devices (sde, sdf, sdg, sdh) for the different kinds of ports. 11:01:11 ah 11:01:11 (sdd is an optical drive.) 11:01:23 my optical drive is sr0 11:01:35 So I don't get how you get a sdd for an optical drive 11:01:48 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:01:50 Hmm, I wonder what sdd is, then. 11:02:03 Oh, it was sdd, sde, sdf and sdg for the card reader; mislooked. 11:02:03 sudo file -s /dev/sdd 11:02:08 ah 11:02:29 fizzie, anyway if it is a SD card, check the slider on the side for read only 11:02:52 "sd 6:0:0:3: [sdg] Write Protect is off" yes, the lock switch seems to be a bit flaky. 11:03:09 It was unlocked; I toggled it to locked and back, and now it's off. 11:04:10 heh 11:04:44 AIUI, the switch doesn't actually *prevent* writes, it just sets that one bit and assumes that the client side honors it. 11:05:47 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 11:06:01 Heh 11:06:25 Or maybe "client" is the wrong word in this context, perhaps "host" is more appropriate. 11:06:51 fizzie, I have an issue with the SD reader on my laptop, and that is that it is slightly too tight of a fit, meaning that inserting a SD card usually results in the thing sliding 11:07:58 fizzie: Regarding my browsing habits (which were apparently discussed ~a day ago), Mozilla has since improved the session restore functionality. The escaping doesn't seem to happen that way any more. Also, the fact that all the tabs are not immediately loaded when restoring the session has significantly reduced the anxiety of pressing the "Restore session" button. 11:08:35 I'd like it if Chrome stole the lazy-loading thing from them, too. 11:14:53 Hm I should really reformat the external SD card on my phone from FAT-32 to something saner. I just ran fsck on that thing and it found a couple of stuff 11:15:12 also the mtab on my phone is crazy 11:19:12 http://sprunge.us/IQKN 11:22:33 /dev/block/mmcblk0p12 /.secondrom ext4 rw,relatime,barrier=0,data=ordered,noauto_da_alloc 0 0 11:22:33 tmpfs /.secondrom tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,size=131072k,mode=771,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0 11:22:33 /dev/block/mmcblk0p12 /.secondrom ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,barrier=0,data=ordered,noauto_da_alloc 0 0 11:22:36 that is quite confusing 11:22:41 three mounts on top of each other? 11:33:47 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 11:37:32 -!- Koen_ has joined. 11:39:17 -!- carado has quit (Quit: Leaving). 11:42:59 -!- carado has joined. 12:05:39 -!- Jafet has joined. 12:18:08 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 12:23:44 -!- Tritonio_ has changed nick to Tritonio. 12:28:22 From what I recall, the N900 mtab is kind of simple, esp. in comparison. 12:29:27 http://sprunge.us/jfVV and it's mostly the /opt stuff due to silly partitioning. 12:38:43 -!- nooga has joined. 12:44:42 fizzie, /home/user/ nice 12:45:11 Also for some reason the caps lock led is out of sync with what is actually happening atm 12:45:23 Hm, replugging the keyboard helped 12:45:24 strange 12:46:03 But I don't know what will work. 12:46:30 That message was intended for #haskell. Unauthorized readers will be prosecuted. 12:46:36 heh 12:46:50 shachaf, what if I'm in both channels? 12:46:55 Can I read it twice 12:47:29 How can you tell it's the same message without reading it twice? 12:48:26 shachaf, you could extrapolate from the comment " That message was intended for #haskell. Unauthorized readers will be prosecuted." that you would post it twice, once in each channel 12:50:38 Reading this message is forbidden. 12:52:53 Vorpal: It's pretty much a single-user device, and the single user is called "user". 12:53:11 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0). 12:55:43 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 12:56:44 fizzie, right 12:56:59 modern Android has that multi-user stuff. Not completely sure how it works. 13:07:32 http://sprunge.us/UNXe that's probably not good. 13:08:20 -!- Taneb has joined. 13:09:09 How do Agda et al. compare with Haskell in terms of type system ridiculawesomeness? 13:09:10 Taneb: You have 4 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. 13:10:14 they're probably all turing complete 13:10:30 No. 13:10:44 Agda et al. are very carefully not Turing-complete. 13:11:04 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 13:11:22 (Even the language itself. Let alone the type system, which is more or less the same thing as the language itself.) 13:11:31 A Turing-complete type system would defeat a lot of purposes. 13:12:34 fizzie, indeed. That is from your phone? 13:12:53 or desktop? 13:12:56 or laptop? 13:13:46 -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 13:15:40 @tell Taneb well haskell's type system is a subset of agda's, so... 13:15:41 Consider it noted. 13:22:23 -!- Taneb has joined. 13:23:16 Hey Taneb! 13:23:18 Hi 13:23:18 Taneb: You have 5 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. 13:23:24 My internet's kinda crappy here 13:23:28 ah 13:24:16 Vorpal: Desktop; the device it speaks of is the keyboard; I plugged the Nexus 7 into the same hub where it is, using my no-name microusb cable, and it has some connectivity problems; I guess the intermittent connections went and confused things. (Replugging fixed it.) 13:24:28 Phantom_Hoover: "haskell's type system is a subset of agda's"? 13:24:34 uh 13:24:37 it isn't is it 13:24:38 fuck 13:24:41 C is a subset of C++ 13:24:47 everyone knows this 13:24:47 @tell Taneb no it isn't 13:24:48 Consider it noted. 13:25:08 @messages 13:25:08 Phantom_Hoover said 21s ago: no it isn't 13:25:08 Phantom_Hoover: actually he's back 13:25:09 @google fuzzy set theory 13:25:10 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_set 13:25:10 Title: Fuzzy set - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 13:25:11 but it is p. cool 13:25:14 Hmm, I didn't even have to say anything. 13:25:16 ok it exists 13:25:21 @tell ThatOtherPerson i know, it was for comedic effect 13:25:22 Consider it noted. 13:25:23 Phantom_Hoover: "it isn't"? 13:25:37 @tell Taneb maybe it is? I DON'T KNOW 13:25:38 Consider it noted. 13:25:40 @messages 13:25:40 Phantom_Hoover said 19s ago: i know, it was for comedic effect 13:25:58 @tell Phantom_Hoover don't worry, I found it funny :) 13:25:58 Consider it noted. 13:26:06 @messages 13:26:07 Taneb said 9s ago: don't worry, I found it funny :) 13:27:11 @massages 13:27:11 You don't have any new messages. 13:27:22 ... how 13:28:15 @adsfae 13:28:16 Unknown command, try @list 13:28:36 @goggle hello 13:28:37 http://www.hellomagazine.com/ 13:28:37 Title: HELLO! Online: celeb & royal news, magazine, babies, weddings, style 13:29:13 fizzie, ah okay 13:38:03 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 13:49:21 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 13:50:27 @yarn ! 13:50:27 What be a priate's favourite cheese? 13:50:28 Yarrlsburg! 13:51:15 @yarn! 13:51:15 Arr! Me ship be the biggest brig in the port! 13:51:50 @arrow 13:51:51 I want me grog! 13:52:10 go home lambdabot, you're drunk 13:56:16 -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 13:57:26 does anyone use Go? 13:57:39 It got a lot of hype around it's release but it seems to me that quickly died down. 13:57:44 Haven't heard about it in ages. 13:59:10 I had to use it for a course this semester 14:00:43 oh, how was it? 14:02:45 Well, it was all right. The course was about parallellisation/synchronisation mechanisms, and for that purpose I guess it's a good fit 14:03:39 We never used e.g. interfaces/structs, so my experience is rather limited.. 14:06:14 -!- nooodl has joined. 14:09:06 Hm 14:12:46 I am under the impression that Go does get at least some amount of commercial use. 14:18:37 -!- FreeFull has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:24:38 -!- FreeFull has joined. 14:30:15 -!- variable has changed nick to constant. 15:10:38 -!- arcatan has quit (Quit: RAGEQUIT). 15:32:40 -!- conehead has joined. 16:23:11 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 16:23:22 -!- Bike has joined. 16:25:32 -!- abumirqaan has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 16:25:51 -!- Tritonio_ has joined. 16:27:33 -!- Tritonio has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:28:06 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 16:28:35 -!- Tritonio_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:29:01 -!- Tritonio_ has joined. 16:29:46 -!- Bike has joined. 16:35:27 -!- Tritonio has joined. 16:36:04 -!- Tritonio_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 16:45:59 -!- Taneb has joined. 16:54:44 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:55:22 -!- Tritonio has quit (Quit: Leaving). 16:56:48 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 17:09:45 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 17:09:46 -!- zzo38 has joined. 17:11:36 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 17:34:03 Can PADsynth be implemented efficiently in hardware? 17:35:49 -!- oerjan has joined. 17:39:31 -!- ogrom has joined. 17:43:01 -!- nooga has joined. 17:44:21 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 17:48:21 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 17:48:28 This is going to go to my head, I think <-- you'll end up bying a south american country? (i recall opus the penguin did that) 17:48:42 *buying 17:49:52 oerjan: Sounds familiar. 17:54:19 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 18:09:01 -!- nooga has joined. 18:10:54 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 18:12:02 Is there a shortcut on emacs to re-open all files if they've changed on the disk? 18:14:02 -!- Nisstyre has joined. 18:14:20 hm, there's kill-some-buffers and save-some-buffers but not read-some-buffers 18:14:48 420-kill-buffers-everyday 18:15:04 is Sgeo going mad with wealth? 18:15:09 great, now "buffers" doesn't look like a word 18:15:09 Sgeo: you should donate some of that money 18:15:16 yes, he's sponsoring mosquito laser initiatives 18:15:23 they're called buffers but i've never seen them buff 18:15:31 -!- Tritonio has joined. 18:15:41 does that stuff actually work 18:15:44 in re: mosquito lasers 18:16:01 Sgeo has wealth!? 18:16:06 `welcome Tritonio 18:16:10 -!- nooga_ has joined. 18:16:12 Tritonio: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 18:16:15 Bike: are these initiatives to kill mosquitoes with lasers, or initiatives to create killer laser mosquitoes? 18:16:37 oerjan: the latter would seem important if it is necessary at all 18:16:48 is HackEgo a bit? 18:16:52 yes 18:16:55 *is HackEgo a bot? 18:17:12 Nah, it's some guy in Indiana typing really quickly 18:17:18 :-D 18:17:18 Tritonio is new? 18:17:29 kmc: yes, but the main problem is that there aren't many laser-related resources in places with mosquito problems 18:17:35 no oerjan I just hadn't joined the channel for like a year. 18:17:37 Tritonio: are you new? 18:17:40 Aaah 18:17:53 Do you recall the Hexham co-incidence? 18:18:15 cohexham incidence 18:18:32 `run ls bin/ | tr [:upper:] [:lower:] | grep elcom 18:18:37 relcome \ rwelcome \ welcome \ welcome \ welcome 18:18:42 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 18:18:56 what's that? 18:18:57 cohexham sounds scary 18:19:05 Bike: I believe it's Finland 18:19:14 like i said, scary 18:19:21 Evidence for this: 18:19:27 Hexham got attacked by vikings 18:19:33 Finland attacked vikings 18:20:15 sounds plausible 18:20:56 so... any golf competition lately? 18:23:51 -!- abumirqaan has joined. 18:26:55 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 18:26:56 Hmm. I should find a power supply for my LS-120 drive. 18:27:12 Be silly, pointless, but amusing actually using a parallel floppy drive. 18:34:20 Bike: hm, plenty of rich places have non-life-threatening mosquito problems... maybe you could like sell them in SkyMall on a give-one, get-one basis 18:34:48 maybe 18:34:50 a crazy laser turret gadget for keeping mosquitos away from your barbequeue, that also lets you show off how charitable you are 18:34:53 that could sell 18:35:03 heh 18:36:53 Sillier still considering I don't have LS-120 media. 18:38:57 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 18:39:26 you can use it to read regular floppies right? 18:39:29 that makes it even sillier 18:42:47 Yes. 18:43:06 To add to the silliness, I own an internal floppy drive. 18:43:11 One that's even hooked up. 18:43:25 my middle school had a bunch of USB LS-120 drives because it was the cool thing to buy with a first-gen iMac 18:43:39 Mine had a bunch of Zip drives. 18:43:42 ThatOtherPerson: Taneb: how's the ludum dare going? 18:43:50 Surprisingly well 18:44:03 I just used 80mm CD-RWs. 18:44:23 As in we might finish by the deadline 18:44:48 good, good 18:45:08 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 18:45:10 This LS-120 drive was my grandmother's... 18:52:27 -!- mnoqy has joined. 18:52:28 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 18:54:39 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0). 19:17:05 -!- NihilistDandy has joined. 19:29:39 -!- ogrom has quit (Quit: Left). 19:30:52 -!- Tritonio has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 19:33:49 -!- Tritonio has joined. 19:35:41 Literally Unbelievable jumped the shark 19:35:43 `pastequotes 19:35:57 This person was clearly just continuing the oke, I think http://literallyunbelievable.org/post/49088978411/obviously-a-propaganda 19:36:14 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.11282 19:36:58 `quote 1035 19:37:05 1035) shachaf: make friends. help people. find ways to help people be happy. hug people. have fun. make the world a little bit better. 19:37:11 An inspiration to us all 19:37:13 Fiora++ 19:37:30 nothing is obvious, sgeo 19:38:03 Nothing is obvious, everything is a burrito 19:38:23 -!- Tritonio has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 19:39:04 I still want to try the Dilburrito 19:39:27 >_< 19:40:23 There was a little promotional flash game 19:40:41 You'd have to stand under falling food to eat it. Try to eat healthy foods, avoid unhealthy ones 19:40:52 Of course, the Dilberito was the most healthy food 19:41:55 I guess being an inspiration is okay 19:42:32 is dilberito a portmanteaue of dilbert and burrito............... 19:42:52 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/DilBeriTO.jpg 19:42:56 i... 19:43:34 oh it's a real thing 19:43:47 Scott Adams Foods, Inc???????? 19:44:00 Was a real thing 19:44:07 It's been discontinued :( 19:44:25 well shit, how could i not want to eat that 19:44:28 a healthy food product that also had mass appeal, a concept he called "the blue jeans of food." 19:44:33 mass appeal by way of dilbert? 19:45:03 are blue jeans nutritionally sound 19:45:42 A lot of the food I eat has genes 19:45:45 That is such a strange concept. 19:45:49 (That would probably work better spoken) 19:46:08 Sgeo: ... 19:46:22 it wouldnt 19:47:21 i think DNA is pretty well fucked by the time you're food has been cooked 19:47:32 your 19:47:33 what if you eat it before it's cooked??? WHAT THEN 19:47:59 i guess sushi is alright 19:48:06 I have floppy drive in my computer but the eject button is broken, so when I use floppy disks I will use the external drive. 19:48:11 well theres plants but sure 19:48:12 alt. literally a manifestation of god into the corrupt world, if you're fiora 19:48:21 ??? 19:48:26 sushi. 19:48:28 i think bike is saying you like sushi 19:48:39 um. I guess I do 19:48:49 or maybe it's a nasty god and you hate sushi 19:49:14 lazy do-nothing god "apathetic about sushi" 19:49:43 no I like sushi! 19:49:59 wham. i've got this fiora thing down. 19:50:16 ?/ 19:50:16 Maybe you meant: . ? @ v 19:50:45 Isn't sushi just rice and vinegar or something and raw fish has a different name 19:51:03 raw fish alone is sashimi, but yeah, not all sushi has raw fish, or even fish 19:51:27 Sushi may include raw fish too, but always rice 19:52:06 I know this because I went to a sushi restaurant chain once in Homestuck cosplay 19:52:14 i guess 'maki' and 'nigiri' are subtypes of sushi then? 19:52:23 * kmc was never very clear on it 19:52:34 also I'm told that it's almost impossible to get authentic wasabi in the USA :/ 19:52:39 i've probably never tasted authentic wasabi 19:53:05 not all fish in sushi is raw either, at least in america 19:53:12 sometimes it's deliciously fried 19:53:16 it's gotta have that "american touch" (deep fried wasabi) 19:53:31 -!- Tritonio has joined. 19:53:37 that scottish touch 19:54:23 -!- nooga_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 19:55:23 how do you deep fry a wasaby 19:56:48 in balls 19:56:51 ed balls 19:56:58 First you need to catch the wasaby 19:58:02 the guardian did a liveblog for ed balls day http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/28/ed-balls-ed-balls-ed-balls-ed-balls-live 20:02:19 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Good night). 20:03:28 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 20:04:14 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleic_acid_thermodynamics DNA in cooked food is complicated 20:05:36 -!- NihilistDandy has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com). 20:06:10 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 20:11:48 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130428-bergen.ogg let's continue the tradition of inscrutable audio links. 20:14:02 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:14:12 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 20:17:07 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 272 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on the side. 21:03:45 It looks incongruous. 21:04:06 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 21:04:22 (Café Ursula, for the metropolitan-area Finns.) 21:05:42 you know what the worst part about this connection bullshit is 21:05:46 i have no idea what causes it 21:11:41 yeah i've seen real mechanical pianos with midi hw + floppy drive 21:11:44 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:12:00 i guess they have a solenoid on every key, you can see them move as they play themselves 21:16:48 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 21:34:43 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 21:45:42 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 22:01:54 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 22:12:48 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 22:15:21 today i learned: brendan eich donated $1k to the prop 8 campaign 22:15:28 javascript suddenly even worse 22:16:26 did he give a reason 22:16:41 i don't think he made a public statement about it 22:16:46 or really I just don't know 22:16:53 wikipedia mentions it and gives some citations 22:16:58 yeah i saw 22:16:58 Eich donated $1,000 in 2008 to the campaign supporting California Proposition 8, which was recorded in a public database with Mozilla's name attached as his employer,[5] and many people commented about this donation on Twitter in March 2012.[6] 22:17:06 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:17:18 http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/04/business/la-fi-tn-brendan-eich-prop-8-contribution-20120404 22:17:45 Eich did not respond to an Los Angeles Times request for comment, but he did respond to a tweet by David Heinemeier Hansson, who created the open source Web framework Ruby on Rails, and has more than 55,000 followers on Twitter. 22:17:49 In language we can't repeat here, Heinemeier Hansson said that seeing Eich's name and Mozilla's name on the list of people who gave to Prop 8 was "nasty." 22:17:58 David "Language We Can't Repeat Here" Heinemeier Hansson 22:18:38 "Apparently @brendaneich, father of #JavaScript, isn't as versatile as his language" i'm reading this as a sex position thing 22:20:18 "Let the man have his opinion" a comments section /in/ the article, cool 22:22:07 gonna donate $1M to the literally kill javascript programmers fund 22:22:09 imo let me have my opinion 22:22:22 and also 22:22:23 let me have $1M 22:22:34 are you the fund? 22:22:38 the human fund 22:22:46 have you transcended your human status to join the ranks of financial instruments 22:22:53 get jiggy with some futures iykwim 22:26:24 Can you make any prestige class for Dungeons&Dragons game? 22:26:45 No 22:27:27 Do you like to have any Pokemon game in Z-machine? 22:28:41 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 22:29:36 The "Financial Instrument" prestige class, for bards. 22:31:13 -!- abumirqaan has joined. 22:31:44 hehehe 22:32:11 Is that the one where bards earn money? 22:32:55 No, it's where you use abstract mechanisms of capital as musical instruments. 22:33:07 Like hooking up nasdaq to a synth and such. 22:33:10 O, that's how you do it. 22:33:53 Do you have a program to convert a NASDAQ to a Csound score file? 22:36:03 I also made some prestige class, and improvements to two prestige classes, and have now written most of "Aberration Saver" prestige class on a paper. 22:36:15 I do not have such a program. 22:36:25 It is a kind of paper that might be used for bookkeeping, I suppose, but I wrote on the other side. 22:41:48 OK guys 22:41:53 there's a cool sculpture in the lobby of the London Stock Exchange with a bunch of balls that float up and down with the market http://vimeo.com/10163398 22:42:27 can someone please, for the love of god, explain to me why when i connect to irc servers the connection is fine for a minute and then times out? 22:42:53 nope 22:42:57 god doesn't love me sorry 22:43:06 but does he love me 22:45:02 « In Trinidad it was sometimes called diablotin (French for "little devil"), presumably referring to its loud cries, which have been likened to those of tortured men. The common name "Oilbird" comes from the fact that in the past chicks were captured and boiled down in order to make oil.» 22:46:30 stupid bird 22:47:23 Hmm. 22:47:28 I should play Barbu again 22:47:38 There's, like, a really really small online community 22:47:52 Who all play via a Windows program, and coordinate on Facebook 22:48:44 A card game? 22:48:54 Yes 22:49:06 Made out of 7 card games. 22:49:19 sounds complicated 22:49:59 oh, they're just trick-taking games, that's not too bad 22:50:34 There's one that isn't trick-taking 22:50:58 Scoring is complicated though. Doubles and re-doubles, required to double dealer at least twice 23:01:42 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 23:05:33 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 23:14:04 I found it in Wikipedia now. 23:14:14 Do you invent any card games? 23:20:08 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 23:23:12 Why WOULD localhost.microsoft.com point to 127.0.0.1 anyway? 23:23:16 What use is there in that? 23:23:24 Besides a security vulnerability 23:24:19 so that you can access your own computer if the loopback device is failing, of course 23:24:51 that wouldn't work 23:25:46 I am not pleased with having the company where I work mentioned right before 'substantial security risk' 23:25:54 Sgeo: hehe 23:25:58 not microsoft though? 23:26:03 Not Microsoft. 23:26:17 It's talking about ISPs that pretend to be non-existent domains 23:26:19 it could be useful if for whatever reason you didn't have a local name for 'localhost' but you did have '.microsoft.com' configured as a suffix 23:26:23 ah yeah 23:26:25 that's a shitty thing to o 23:26:27 do 23:26:45 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 23:27:04 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 23:35:35 "As a result, merely hosting a valid, user-supplied JPEG image could become a grave security risk." 23:35:42 how is that again? 23:36:26 (About Flash's pre-2008 processing of policy files, that could interpret such a file as a cross-domain-policy 23:36:28 the little known server-side executable jpeg protocol 23:36:35 sècùrìtỳ rìsk 23:36:44 Ignoring MIME type and leading garbage 23:36:58 oh, nice 23:41:13 great 23:41:18 Postel's Law is the worst thing ever for security 23:41:43 it's p. bad for a lot of non-security things too 23:41:44 «RFC 1122 (1989) expanded on Postel's principle by recommending that programmers[2] "assume that the network is filled with malevolent entities that will send in packets designed to have the worst possible effect"» 23:42:14 "expanded" meaning "directly contermanded" 23:42:17 nice 23:42:23 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 23:42:34 good expansion 23:46:00 So in Chrome, can't use cookies: with file: 23:46:14 That must suck for people using old books to learn basic stuff 23:48:56 is cookies: a thing 23:49:31 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined.