< 1367020801 956379 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a multiplier of what? < 1367020816 653750 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Font size < 1367020832 493940 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you assuming every typeface is monospace < 1367020857 615471 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i think that definition of em is kind of outdated nowadays < 1367020910 808796 :nooga_!~nooga@117-240.echostar.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1367020940 524718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: {{User:Zzo38/Userboxes/program famicom}} and {{User:Zzo38/Userboxes/text adventure game}} < 1367020959 643172 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1367020966 344095 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops! There is prefer DVD over VHS, and VHS over DVD, and Blu-ray over DVD, but they forgot preferring DVD over Blu-ray. < 1367021020 984325 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I'm assuming that there's no reason for sizes to be an actual amount < 1367021235 280790 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367021533 64394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it could override another font-size rule on the same element < 1367021591 964592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it is a multiplier of the font size. when you say "12 pt font", that means 1 em = 12 pt, where a pt is 1/72 of an inch < 1367021693 404495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe, but i'm not sure, that font-size: 2em; and font-size: 200%; have the same effect < 1367021711 434848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually http://kyleschaeffer.com/user-experience/css-font-size-em-vs-px-vs-pt-vs/ says that they behave differently if the user activates the browser's font resizing feature < 1367021733 226465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway CSS has both % and em because in other contexts they mean something quite different < 1367021770 596208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"width: 50%" means '50% of the parent's size', "width: 0.5em" means '50% of a single em in the parent's font' < 1367021814 455666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly though http://img.pandawhale.com/post-18529-Yes-mlkshk-2jkG.gif < 1367021843 25681 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who made that gif probably aren't very good at CSS. < 1367021844 942778 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that window grubbing is kind of impressive < 1367021872 814903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: lol < 1367021960 111321 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1367022055 221631 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367022057 234651 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone fix my connection < 1367022063 543390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my girlfriend has perfected a procedure for turning free copies of the Wall Street Journal into food < 1367022070 420477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by growing mushrooms on them < 1367022097 214584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mushrooms are tasty and do not appear to have poisoned me or shifted my political views to the right < 1367022141 217189 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think the wsj can poison you kmc < 1367022166 815034 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also suspect it would take some kind of massive rocket to shift your political views to the right < 1367022246 565922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1367022264 305233 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some money < 1367022328 977784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i'm robbed by immigrants at knifepoint < 1367022379 164995 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the immigrants were right-wing < 1367022400 325475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmmmm < 1367022607 344818 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367022806 792430 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367022807 862733 :lahwran!lahwran@python/site-packages/lahwran NICK :lahwran- < 1367022808 581265 :lahwran-!lahwran@python/site-packages/lahwran NICK :lahwran < 1367022811 305038 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for your next good deed, fix my connection < 1367022917 199177 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if political views are modular? < 1367022984 133427 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is htmldog.com a good site? < 1367023008 944716 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1367023036 390404 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cursive on my machine isn't very cursive lol < 1367023469 226660 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might also stumble across similar proprietary properties, such as -webkit-border-radius and -moz-border-radius which are for older, barely-used versions of Safari and Firefox respectively. Our carefully worded professional advice? Screw ‘em. < 1367023474 195983 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^from htmldog < 1367023620 456022 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you might use the -moz- properties if you are writing a XUL application, rather than a webpage. < 1367023727 821122 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/13b0bd5792b912e71aafc9b201ac0dba/tumblr_mllgbzm7xu1snfhwio1_1280.jpg < 1367023734 654668 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people like jerkcity right < 1367023796 316181 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesssssss < 1367023822 917504 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1367023909 481865 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's "jerkcity hd" http://jerkcityhd.tumblr.com/ < 1367023912 686180 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1367023929 334377 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1367023932 466397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a ray of sunshine in my world < 1367023936 397925 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1367023936 846028 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc likes jerkcity. don't know about anyone else < 1367023944 123572 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1367023959 557810 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerkcity is brilliant. who wouldn't like it < 1367024006 134850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://media.tumblr.com/f80afb234b91bd5d8bcaa8e2c0dccf17/tumblr_inline_mlr42hjCjn1qzv9v0.jpg < 1367024067 689836 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woodring's a cool guy, for someone who's psychotic < 1367024079 458276 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is he now < 1367024104 707490 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he based a lot of his comic on hallucinations < 1367024143 906268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1367024168 756685 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1367024306 715782 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367024312 956391 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have hallucinations, but can reliably determine whether something is a hallucination or not, and you don't mind the hallucinations, are you 'psychotic'? < 1367024333 536532 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...actually, I'm worse than that, come to think of it. < 1367024349 144192 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1367024354 696413 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I regularly have hallucinations where I can't determine that it's a hallucination during the hallucination. I do reliably work it out afterwards though. < 1367024365 720615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of hallucinations Sgeo? < 1367024370 396787 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1367024378 316606 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes < 1367024388 568943 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'psychosis' is a pretty general term. < 1367024414 86450 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367024458 185584 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Full sensory hallucinations. Strong enough that any real sensory input is barely noticable. < 1367024544 356698 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this had better not be a sarcastic reference to dreaming < 1367024544 563407 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's not: probably should see a doctor < 1367024607 496876 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thought it was obvious enough that you wouldn't need to make conditional statements like that
< 1367024637 236804 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, hmm, some sensory input is strong enough to get through, usually disrupting the hallucination. < 1367024645 867607 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you mean they're not? < 1367024667 100883 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean that yes, I was referring to dreaming. < 1367024695 624062 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with you sgeo it's not always clear < 1367024697 276522 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :psychosis requires being awake. < 1367024769 416651 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@ip212-45-243-23.rdns.tsvrn.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1367024819 788485 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed you weren't being difficult < 1367024929 107145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt communicating poorly and then acting smug when misunderstood < 1367024950 667161 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1367024963 557673 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is that An XKCD Reference < 1367024967 337846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1367024972 536684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from Before It Was Cool < 1367025016 27536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from when it gently poked fun at nerd tropes instead of just generating and copying them < 1367025118 726263 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367025183 131529 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1367025231 7162 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just strikes me that harmless hallucinations that everyone has are considered 'normal', while if someone had additional odd but harmless hallucinations, that would be abnormal < 1367025254 508244 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite common for mentally healthy people to have auditory hallucinations < 1367025273 180592 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a thing called the Hearing Voices Movement that involves such people (as well as unhealthy people who also hear voices) < 1367025335 899205 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I remember reading that autism was often misdiagnosed as schizophrenia due to insufficiently pedantic questions < 1367025349 667237 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people asking questions like "do you hear voices", which were then interpreted literally < 1367025360 917400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yes, when people talk nearby, I can hear their voice…" < 1367025399 377344 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :diagnosing mental illness is hard < 1367025445 187333 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alogia#Example < 1367025491 117490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1367026070 896460 :listofoptions!~grossofug@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1367026150 88401 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1367026252 359698 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@ip212-45-243-23.rdns.tsvrn.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1367027651 368953 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mental illnesses are tricky. < 1367027701 898878 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I do not recall having a dream ever, so *suck it*. < 1367027705 729070 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm saner than all y'all. < 1367027737 419037 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a dream about being delusional this morning, what does that make me < 1367027818 28965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesterday i woke up sucking on a lemon < 1367027894 32350 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367027905 629997 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything < 1367027918 378787 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've lately started having fits of realising when i'm going to sleep that my thoughts make no fucking sense < 1367027943 318846 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unsex%27d_Females also you all need to help me understand the eighteenth century because what < 1367027975 758779 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1367027983 122847 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Marywollstonecraft.jpg < 1367027991 128801 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first thought was a distinct resemblance to mrs doyle < 1367028001 126335 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in arthur conan? < 1367028010 814522 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, as in < 1367028025 238729 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whbc5YJz7OU < 1367028032 872504 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have been watching an awful lot of father ted of late < 1367028186 9010 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, try lucid dreaming? < 1367028224 400273 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't happen when i'm dreaming though < 1367028335 316164 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367028394 140240 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367028397 991111 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1367028573 919974 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1367028912 639907 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here participating in the ludum dare? < 1367029117 653803 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1367029772 790748 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At first when I put "This user knows the difference between scientific astronomy and superstitious astrology." on my userpage I thought I know the difference but actually I didn't. Now I do. < 1367029801 963951 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know you know? < 1367029848 275414 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. I won't necessarily know anything 100% certain. < 1367029858 431778 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since everyone makes mistakes too, even scientists. < 1367030659 870785 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an Android app for Robozzle! < 1367030698 301086 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, Bike, shachaf, you weren't here for the Robozzle addiction I think, you should play < 1367030705 640541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Sgeo < 1367030707 692055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i miss < 1367030709 582415 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened < 1367030710 580730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1367030721 85211 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://robozzle.com/ < 1367030730 731004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My server went down for mysterious reasons. < 1367030738 850699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what IRC channels I used to be in. < 1367030775 301105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1367030778 241047 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait why me < 1367030812 400663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :RoboZZle requires Silverlight < 1367030816 161147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thgeo < 1367030842 621832 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a js version < 1367030843 960795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write a clone of the software in other programming languages; I think I have done once in QBASIC < 1367030869 410940 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, because you weren't here when Robozzle < 1367030882 390859 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs robozzle < 1367030884 420926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get a bag, I guess. < 1367030886 923142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good bag? < 1367030894 680679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bag of holding < 1367030900 931745 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bag of tricks < 1367030902 171035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends what you want to store in it. < 1367030920 780666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc wins, with zzo38 in second place < 1367030925 401488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Sgeo is just trying to trick me. < 1367030929 760957 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.410 < 1367031181 521917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you figured out your excuse for moving to SF yet < 1367031192 551431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my excuse is that my friends are there and also you can buy weed at the corner store < 1367031208 891295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also get it delivered to you online i hear < 1367031223 585697 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or by delivery drone < 1367031236 751610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you can use cryptocurrency to buy chinese synthetic hallucinogens through the onion router < 1367031242 700029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the future is a cyberpunk novel < 1367031278 805802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean a local san francisco thing < 1367031348 711216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1367031361 951447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks
< 1367031365 613961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i get large prime numbers delivered to me online < 1367031396 203174 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cyberpunk has to have buying synthetic drugs with anonymous cryptocurrency IN SPACE kmc < 1367031414 614218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :large prime numbers are very rare [compared to most large numbers] < 1367031435 217664 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like new bitcoins < 1367031469 61579 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how rare is your average large number < 1367031480 591382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very common. < 1367031493 111918 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear most numbers are large numbers. < 1367031526 461222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear the average number is 0. < 1367031617 420670 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized... now that I have money, I could buy an AW citizenship < 1367031686 231682 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a Worlds.com VP... but that would be unethical probably < 1367031692 701874 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*VIP < 1367031700 311720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? also what? < 1367031717 2165 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worlds.com is a patent troll < 1367031720 676352 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ActiveWorlds. Think SecondLife but nineties. < 1367031756 192040 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets graphical updates sometimes.... kind of... < 1367031758 91534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I think SecondLife-but-nineties, I think SecondLife. < 1367031760 691505 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still using RenderWare < 1367031763 301343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also "nineties" means "last decade". < 1367031772 931658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's going to keep meaning that. < 1367031789 198018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1367031792 524129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I have to line my words up again? < 1367031799 567623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when George Bush invaded Iraq in the nineties? < 1367031868 21477 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember when we partied like it was 1997 < 1367031884 901573 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we did that in 1997, mostly. < 1367031938 296076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, enough of that. < 1367032063 321366 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use shorter sentences < 1367032345 22539 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, have a wiki page about a game in ActiveWorlds that I loved < 1367032345 388164 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wiki.activeworlds.com/index.php?title=Mutation < 1367032451 654191 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You shouldn't neglect < 1367032452 102128 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :polysyllabic measures < 1367032452 308899 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :in your lines either. < 1367032461 726340 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367032481 986439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoids < 1367032561 22721 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Active Worlds Inc. supplies "White Label Solutions" to corporate clients and is able to deliver customized, turn-key 3D Universes complete with built-in tailored citizen registration systems and sales/marketing data-mining capabilities.� < 1367032606 194991 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1367032649 844980 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the one hand, AW's update process is annoying, on the other, it's better than it used to be < 1367032692 146541 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Used to prompt that it needs to be updated. New version starts, still not up to date, prompt again < 1367032694 773685 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and again < 1367032705 192063 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it only prompts the first time < 1367032786 773485 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1367033253 813317 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1367040066 155780 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1367040542 627864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b^a^l^l^s < 1367040560 847974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mod p < 1367040568 38083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the magic equation behind RSA < 1367040588 320660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sin (pi / 10) * 2 < 1367040590 14564 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.6180339887498948 < 1367040600 806579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know that < 1367040686 246974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idgi < 1367040696 748961 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's phi < 1367040702 937588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, phi - 1. the other phi < 1367040831 340245 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :phi, the fuckiest number < 1367040906 598205 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1367040978 700723 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1367041489 342991 :nooodl!~nooodl@22.99-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1367042681 817553 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1367042735 37728 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1367042919 575543 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Excess Flood < 1367042977 593640 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1367043143 499430 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-24-165.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1367043181 51872 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-24-165.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1367043181 258988 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1367043336 730033 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1367043781 179754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the instant the Omega Point is reached, life will have gained control of all matter and forces not only in a single universe, but in all universes whose existence is logically possible; life will have spread into all spatial regions in all universes which could logically exist, and will have stored an infinite amount of information, including all bits of knowledge which it is logically possible to know. < 1367043833 223739 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was so pissed when they even mentioned that shit on some science TV show < 1367043906 329662 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I...what? < 1367043965 529524 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tipler's fucked and de chardin's a teleological fuck and fuck < 1367044136 921175 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks p.fucked, yeah < 1367044211 213154 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn fucked < 1367044215 759694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :d. fucked < 1367045065 289418 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leeps < 1367045566 714954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :KEYCAP PICTURE INSERT MODE | Soap with a prize inside | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1367045857 72610 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1367046443 601687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamma goblins (part 2) < 1367046915 211731 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367047113 301567 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :single character read interpret programming tool (toy), script. BF would be a script. The mother BFing script. < 1367047447 860230 :lahwran!lahwran@python/site-packages/lahwran NICK :lahwran- < 1367047449 195193 :lahwran-!lahwran@python/site-packages/lahwran NICK :lahwran < 1367048245 152601 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1367048314 75625 :Zerker!~zerker@72.25.112.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367048508 354637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in < 1367048679 722037 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only the cracked see the light < 1367048789 894098 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a crack you can't see, and when the wind blows through it, it makes no sound... < 1367048978 574058 :Zerker!~zerker@72.25.112.154 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPad - Timeout (10 minutes) < 1367049893 525850 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1367050445 264338 :ThatOtherPerson!d44c5372@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.76.83.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367051633 85185 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@ip212-45-243-23.rdns.tsvrn.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1367052748 430220 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lcamtuf.blogspot.com/2011/03/other-reason-to-beware-of.html < 1367052779 326316 :Zerker!~zerker@72.25.112.107 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367052882 670902 :nooga!~nooga@117-240.echostar.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1367053393 688639 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :�⃣ < 1367054356 137109 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@ip212-45-243-23.rdns.tsvrn.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1367054960 311728 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PART :#esoteric < 1367055663 753299 :ThatOtherPerson!d44c5372@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.76.83.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It interesting how when the fire alarm goes off we all just ignore it. < 1367055666 757123 :ThatOtherPerson!d44c5372@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.76.83.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*It's < 1367055928 118510 :ThatOtherPerson!d44c5372@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.76.83.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1367056342 217545 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting indeed. < 1367056362 601675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Jafet < 1367056383 84526 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :haf < 1367056605 782114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Any puns for us today? < 1367056917 937895 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you can find one at http://heasarc.nasa.gov/docs/xte/learning_center/discover_0606.html < 1367057809 555471 :ThatOtherPerson!d4766762@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.118.103.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367058728 240402 :ThatOtherPerson!d4766762@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.118.103.98 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1367058879 729283 :ThatOtherPerson!d4766762@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.118.103.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367058895 284328 :Zerker!~zerker@72.25.112.107 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPad - Timeout (10 minutes) < 1367059378 300284 :ThatOtherPerson!d4766762@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.118.103.98 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1367061496 348597 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1367061502 750953 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367062338 792145 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367067506 797036 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1367068599 81930 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1367068618 901778 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1367068655 687865 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1367069800 748942 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367069951 377993 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh Taneb oh Taneb, where art thou Taneb? < 1367072194 627150 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say he's taneb most places < 1367072225 437859 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? He actually uses the name "Taneb" at school and such? < 1367072249 607341 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think he'd just use "Nathan" < 1367072294 585807 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, no < 1367072298 276783 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nathan's his internet name < 1367072318 578277 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then why does he use "Taneb" on the internet? < 1367072358 734074 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's very trusting < 1367072409 997698 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what is the point of him even having an internet name? < 1367072466 710246 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to throw any pursuers off the trail < 1367072492 994291 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so I'll amend my question: < 1367072569 802719 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh Nathan who is really Taneb, where is thy current location? What coordinates art thou currently located at? When is thy estimated time of arrival to the nearest IRC client? < 1367073360 11139 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heretofore doth ye antiquarian pretenſions make airs < 1367074077 719192 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.157.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367074295 987931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm TIL this is a valid C declaration: int (*x)[10]; < 1367074326 717816 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that just an array of ten pointers to ints, or < 1367074333 721606 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... a pointer to a pointer to ints? < 1367074391 644088 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION guesses the latter
< 1367074455 7082 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pointer to an array, i.e. just a pointer really < 1367074554 698072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's a pointer to an array < 1367074656 165221 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :[3633262.162782] [BLOCK] IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=b8:27:eb:3e:2e:5c:58:98:35:41:33:0e:08:00:45:00:00:4a:7d:06:00:00:6d:11:ca:00 SRC=85.181.239.22 DST=192.168.1.40 LEN=74 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=109 ID=32006 PROTO=UDP SPT=51703 DPT=6802 LEN=54 < 1367074656 372827 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :[3633834.476985] [BLO\x19 < 1367074656 373003 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :[3634184.787933] [BLOCK] IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=b8:27:eb:3e:2e:5c:)J] 8:35:41:33:0e:08:00:45:00:00:4a:72:4b:00:00:27:11:7d:9b SRC=61.58.164.178 DST=192.168.1.40 LEN=74 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=39 ID=29259 PROTO=UDP SPT=11388 DPT=6802 LEN=54 < 1367074660 682599 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm that does NOT look good < 1367074666 472310 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at those weird chars in dmesg < 1367074669 952368 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is going on < 1367074672 905379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacked < 1367074690 846736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not though < 1367074700 130575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dmesg is read from a ring buffer < 1367074712 539554 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, doubtful, anyway the machine is acting as a firewall, so I do expect a lot of iptables messages. < 1367074723 530769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess it overwrote part of an old message < 1367074731 280555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know why weird bytes < 1367074742 671192 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, seems strange it would be the last three lines of dmesg too < 1367074745 549573 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is my RPi < 1367074745 756429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can afford to take the machine down, you could memtest it < 1367074747 829620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1367074756 117110 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't memtest a RPi < 1367074758 580955 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik < 1367074769 876315 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not with memtest86+ < 1367074782 223127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1367074802 479342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might be a similar tool for ARM but it would have to deal with the bajillion different ARM platforms < 1367074821 226790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the Linux kernel itself can run a test < 1367074821 433798 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, also it is a PITA to check what happened, since it is headless. Would need to locate that HDMI->DVI cable and so on < 1367074825 720429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1367074843 522156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blame the cosmic microwaves < 1367074858 671182 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway arrays aren't 'just pointers really'; they decay to pointers in certain contexts, but act differently in others < 1367074873 393032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have int (*x)[10]; int **y; then I can think of at least 2 significant differences < 1367074890 908174 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, possibly, but doubtful < 1367074893 215784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one is that sizeof(*x) != sizeof(*y) < 1367074929 417973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other is that *x == &(*x) but *y != &(*y) < 1367074939 617756 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well I didn't realise you could even have a pointer to an array < 1367074942 665982 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why I thought it might decay < 1367074964 887262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah me either, or anyway I didn't know the syntax for it until just now < 1367074969 491628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by reading http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/chist.html < 1367074972 675094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is an interesting article < 1367075182 42901 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Btw, function pointer syntax: WHY < 1367075203 943920 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You also can't point x and y at the same kind of things, and (char*)(x+1) - (char*)x != (char*)(y+1) - (char*)y. < 1367075208 293372 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Function pointers are even worse in C++ (like most stuff) < 1367075284 832488 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, so int (*x)[10]; is specifically an array of length 10? Hm < 1367075291 412228 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pointer to an array of length 10 < 1367075295 469891 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes < 1367075309 516699 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :will the compiler warn on (*x)[11] then? < 1367075318 823865 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you mean? < 1367075341 626447 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean when accessing element 11 of the length 10 array < 1367075341 833485 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will certainly warn if you try to point it at an int[11]. < 1367075351 605964 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I presume you do by that syntax? < 1367075357 754170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not. < 1367075359 527555 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or does x[11] work directly < 1367075363 34600 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type [enabled by default]' < 1367075363 665723 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does declaring the length there matter then? < 1367075370 811327 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm I guess that < 1367075381 337831 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Because x++ will advance it by ten ints. < 1367075392 816362 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, awesome < 1367075403 5216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sizeof will factor in the array size < 1367075404 593499 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might be useful < 1367075409 833614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = malloc(sizeof(*x)); < 1367075422 831245 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have an array of array of 10 ints, you need an int (*)[10] to point to one "row". < 1367075424 40950 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could work on RGB data really easily with this < 1367075445 715239 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3 or 4, not 10 then obviously) < 1367075463 106885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/hJaD -- from my candide backscroll. < 1367075473 653469 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone was asking about a very similar thing on ##c recently. < 1367075485 476739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the syntax for declaring function pointers is meant to mimic the syntax for using them (as with other declarations in C) < 1367075489 392465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely bad though < 1367075497 234915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think declaration-follows-use is a bad rule < 1367075509 332994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not *that* bad until you have a function that returns a pointer to a function. < 1367075537 252012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :void *call_cc(void *(*)(void (*)(void *) __attribute__((noreturn)))); < 1367075537 852655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The argument types of the returned function pointer end up very far from where you'd normally expect a return type to be. < 1367075541 321967 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make it arbitrarily bad < 1367075569 732888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :declare call_cc as function (pointer to function (pointer to function (pointer to void) returning void) returning pointer to void) returning pointer to void < 1367075575 795771 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the worst imo < 1367075580 658729 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I never even tried that without typedefs... < 1367075593 638455 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, worse than C++? < 1367075628 252731 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least C++ has things < 1367075628 496268 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you can write or read types like that, you're really better off pretending you can't < 1367075630 504406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: int (*foo(int))(char); is a function that takes an int, and returns a pointer which takes a char and returns an int. < 1367075654 674561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The return type -- int (*)(char) -- gets split up pretty badly there. < 1367075662 403975 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ouch < 1367075681 734846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1367075687 210102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah typedefs are called for < 1367075706 541653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw why does C have typedefs and not just use macros for that purpose? < 1367075710 363340 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it all gets worse in C++ as usual. Pointers to member functions and so on. < 1367075766 260443 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does a pointer to a virtual member function even work? What if there is virtual diamond inheritance mixed into it? < 1367075768 529690 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You couldn't (easily) use a macro for that returns-a-pointer-to-a-function, since you can't form "pointer to T" just by appending a *, always; but you can if T is a typedef. < 1367075783 999499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1367075812 943110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :va_arg I think requires that the type is specified in such a way that you can turn it into a pointer like that. < 1367075837 332185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There's a fascinating article about the implementation of pointers to member functions when it comes to virtual functions. < 1367075847 288904 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh? Where? < 1367075859 854618 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I seem to recall (on some implementation) it involving 4-, 8-, 12- and maybe even 16-byte pointers. < 1367075865 686906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I'll see if I can re-find it. < 1367075888 623062 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, 16 bytes on a 64 or 32-bit system? < 1367075910 993104 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be utterly silly on a 32-bit system, not quite as bad (relatively speaking) on a 64-bit system < 1367075914 704555 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 32-bit. < 1367075920 353356 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch ouch ouch < 1367075937 91755 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It might have been http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/7150/Member-Function-Pointers-and-the-Fastest-Possible or something linking to it / linked from it. At least that one mentions the different sizes. < 1367075949 345352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Most bizarrely, in Visual C++, a member function pointer might be 4, 8, 12, or 16 bytes long, depending on the nature of the class it's associated with, and depending on what compiler settings are used!" < 1367075962 171977 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1367075965 18158 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a table of them. < 1367075974 19499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one (GCC) trick i learned from ksplice is to use typeof like so: < 1367075974 767636 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :extern const typeof(int (*)(void)) ksplice_call_pre_apply[] < 1367075995 867995 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :C's syntax is pretty weird sometimes < 1367076007 840531 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`int typedef (*bar)(int);` is also nice < 1367076013 278095 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: int: not found < 1367076013 819401 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or not so nice) < 1367076021 933379 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: huh < 1367076022 862431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of, uh, extern const int (*ksplice_call_pre_apply[])(void) ? < 1367076023 821050 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hush* < 1367076039 857636 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :typeof makes the function pointer type into something that can be composed in a syntactically normal way < 1367076063 478504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also people might be amused by the 'templated data structure library' here: https://github.com/CentOS/ksplice/blob/master/objcommon.h < 1367076063 773929 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, in that it's kind of like an anonymous typedef. :p < 1367076150 586829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Current versions of the GNU compiler use a strange and tricky optimization. It observes that, for virtual inheritance, you have to look up the vtable in order to get the voffset required to calculate the this pointer. While you're doing that, you might as well store the function pointer in the vtable. By doing this, they combine the m_func_address and m_vtable_index fields into one, and they ... < 1367076157 24213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... distinguish between them by ensuring that function pointers always point to even addresses but vtable indices are always odd --" < 1367076300 814230 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :-falloyed-rims < 1367076548 645447 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1367076578 426568 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1367076721 996676 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1367076857 820297 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: O____O < 1367076866 328591 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like... that sounds like sbcl's tagging, almost < 1367076877 243033 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or for that matter the ARM thing with thumb function calls < 1367077051 673647 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 NICK :quintopia < 1367077055 416391 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1367077055 623362 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1367077393 314402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nice cpp < 1367077459 654313 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, why isn't Robozzle Joust a thing yet < 1367077544 991023 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : `int typedef (*bar)(int);` is also nice <-- that does something? < 1367077558 552809 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :typedef in the middle? What does that mean < 1367077705 10145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: heh, yeah < 1367077756 616481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointer tagging comes up a lot < 1367077768 821310 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you give programmers some unused bits, we will find a way to use them < 1367077784 730671 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367077813 534308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find it really amusing that the whole 'canonical address' thing on AMD64 exists explicitly to prevent people from using 'unused' address bits that may become used later < 1367077837 426115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of too bad really < 1367077923 243304 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that reminds me of that thing on win32 I remember reading < 1367077941 147091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think maybe they should have let the OS disable those checks; some platforms don't care about binary compatibility < 1367077950 312811 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that microsoft couldn't enable /LARGEADDRESSAWARE by default because many windows programs would use the top address bit for something, because Windows guaranteed the kernel reserved the top 2GB < 1367077954 485792 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at the time, at least) < 1367077969 813518 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.157.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey does anyone here have any Go experience < 1367077970 532926 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 32-bit programs are still limited to 2GB address space by default, even on 64-bit < 1367077982 714555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh! < 1367078020 49845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if there are Linux/i386 programs that do similar things < 1367078028 767954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they would break running as compat processes on amd64 < 1367078032 338286 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, what about the /3GB switch though? < 1367078039 597830 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/3GB? < 1367078057 410819 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, it is a boot.ini option that switches the split to 1 GB for the kernel, 3 for the app < 1367078060 850399 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh. I see. that's the parameter required on 32-bit to make the OS fit itself in 1GB, and leave 3GB for the app < 1367078067 12142 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1367078079 890519 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if I rmeember right on x86_32 to make large address aware work, you need both the app compiled with /LARGEADDRESSAWARE *and* the /3GB startup flag < 1367078098 199458 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but on 64-bit it's just largeaddressaware, I think. since the kernel has all the address space ver < 1367078101 170633 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ever < 1367078106 17720 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, the guys at work who are still on 32-bit XP use it to be able to use incremental linking in Visual Studio. Kind of funny really. < 1367078115 442126 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1367078138 859467 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yeah, the ilk file gets THAT big, boost is scary) < 1367078175 268370 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did linux always enforce the 2/2 split before or something, like windows did? < 1367078186 209643 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd imagine on linux you probably couldn't have relied on that as much but I wouldn't know (?) < 1367078197 823266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the address model is a compile time kernel config parameter < 1367078200 612715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's usually 3GB / 1GB < 1367078208 454836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people shouldn't have relied on it, but they might have < 1367078221 905212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the kernel itself uses the top page or so of addresses for non-pointer meanings too < 1367078244 453266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :functions that normally return a pointer will return ERR_PTR(-ENOMEM) or whatever on errors < 1367078255 81384 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1367078266 91848 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The concept of the kernel having memory pages in the application address space is kind of silly really. It is an artifact of the architecture though < 1367078271 69365 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so that's just like doing (void*)(-err) < 1367078277 134177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah I think so < 1367078292 597387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yeah, it's hard to get good performance on x86 without it (except on some very recent chips?) < 1367078296 521671 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1d7g28/hacking_v8_yield_and_asyncawait_in_nodejs/ < 1367078308 931621 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, oh? How did they fix that? < 1367078316 31169 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sort of thing, if it gets standardized and into node.js, may make me actually want to try node.js < 1367078331 997527 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they added a PCID system? < 1367078346 613725 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC S/370 allows using 16 or so address spaces per process < 1367078353 190943 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, why link reddit rather than the original source? That just means an extra click for me < 1367078361 380951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, there's something like a TLB tag < 1367078362 40512 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, PCID? < 1367078365 841520 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Another long overdue improvement to the page tables is the Processor Context ID (PCID). The PCID is a field in each TLB entry that associates a given page to a process. Previously, Intel’s TLB could only contain entries from a single process and whenever the CR3 register was written (e.g. a context switch), the TLB was flushed. < 1367078370 587603 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PCID lets pages from different processes safely inhabit the TLB together, so that CR3 writes no longer flush the TLB. Whenever a process tries to access a page in memory, the PCID is checked to determine whether the page is actually mapped into the process’ address space; < 1367078373 316776 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1367078375 95709 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the PCID does not match then a TLB miss occurred. This is very much analogous to Intel’s VPID, which enables the TLB to contain pages from different virtual machines and avoid TLB flushes during VM transitions." < 1367078379 736034 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry for the spam) < 1367078388 989145 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there are useful links in the Reddit thread too < 1367078402 882936 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Scheme thing I wrote (I think it was maybe for some course?) used the whole low byte of 64-bit values as tag bits; that way (on x86-64) you can work easily on the tags just by looking at al/bl/..., and it's a simple matter of a sign-extending shift of 8 bits to turn it back to a pointer. (Of course it'll fail if virtual addresses are ever extended to full 64 bits.) < 1367078406 511399 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, nice < 1367078423 406206 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1367078429 866900 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :say nice to Intel maybe? :P though apparently it came because of VM-related things < 1367078431 946980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it fail, if you're using the /low/ byte? < 1367078447 421725 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mmap everything yourself then < 1367078462 437788 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, he is shifting the entire address up to store stuff in the low byte < 1367078465 730577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1367078468 618202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Because when you shift a pointer left by 8 to make room for that byte, the top 8 bits fall off. < 1367078471 922936 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1367078480 68464 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's really sneaky < 1367078489 446509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't you also run into the canonical address restriction on current processors? < 1367078498 113527 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :canonical address restriction? < 1367078499 452344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would I? < 1367078512 2910 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not used as pointers after shifting. < 1367078522 972768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm true < 1367078529 509783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ok < 1367078568 677843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically, it's exactly the canonical form addresses that let it work, since the top 8 bits are always the same as the top 9th one. (Though I suppose for my uses I could've just assumed they are all zeros.) < 1367078594 973377 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It also means my immediate integers are 56-bit, which is kind of a silly number.) < 1367078607 13350 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :canonical addresses are 56 bits? < 1367078608 846182 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1367078614 563625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i go forwards and you go backwards and some day we will meet < 1367078621 987691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I did 63-bit ones by reserving one half of the tags, can't remember. < 1367078646 434359 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, 48 I believe? < 1367078654 629428 :nooga!~nooga@117-240.echostar.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1367078669 985518 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, 48 then, that makes more sense... < 1367078688 786236 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it depend on the CPU? like I thought different CPUs supported different numbers of address bits < 1367078692 941593 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual" < 1367078694 212339 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway on a given CPU it might be more restricted than that. < 1367078696 453117 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1367078701 810111 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... that's physical that gets restricted < 1367078705 671811 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual < 1367078713 160255 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :go consumer CPU < 1367078719 447883 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is very consumer too. < 1367078722 407634 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :36 on a Core i5? Really < 1367078729 770374 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+.) < 1367078735 575078 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, AMD < 1367078738 892208 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my haswell thing says 39 < 1367078740 787605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, compared to the i5 it's positively ancient. < 1367078744 898442 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah my old Sempron had more than 36 < 1367078749 637398 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It had 40 as well < 1367078761 56623 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^36 < 1367078763 22459 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 68719476736 < 1367078771 862034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Pentium Pro had 36 bit physical addresses! < 1367078779 11786 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, 36-bit is same as what PAE allows < 1367078780 561897 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, my work-workstation has a number so that the installed memory is already a quarter of what's possible. < 1367078784 890539 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, yeah, and this is a Sandy Bridge < 1367078806 72057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has 16 gigs in it, and I guess 2^36 is 64, so it probably had that width. < 1367078822 276203 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :My desktop also has 16 GB, so yeah < 1367078829 637017 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mobo only supports up to 32 though anyway < 1367078843 14109 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think address widths depend more on market segmentation and stuff than technology? < 1367078850 805121 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1367078851 929685 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1367078920 67840 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :address sizes : 32 bits physical, 48 bits virtual go go Intel Atom power. < 1367078926 719403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1367078941 516206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a sandy bridge laptop with 36 bits and a Phenom II desktop with full 48 bits (!) < 1367078946 705424 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does sandy bridge chipset actually allow 64GB < 1367078946 912065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's an Atom 230.) < 1367078950 855905 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an easy way to check on windows < 1367078954 220962 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could just google my CPU < 1367078958 361443 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual < 1367078961 322825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i felt left out < 1367078965 902587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think my motherboard will support 256 TB of memory though < 1367078982 573612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might support... 256 GB < 1367078996 181965 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says "max memory size: 32GB" so um. I guess that's 35 bits? < 1367079014 911129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows says? or googling it < 1367079018 924399 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ark.intel.com/products/64891 < 1367079057 179798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1367079070 565219 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :at 256GB and up I think you should start measuring it in TB < 1367079071 748428 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could also have something to do with some other limit than the cpuinfo address size, who knows. < 1367079074 350521 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a laptop cpu so maybe they allow less? < 1367079088 407760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically the physical address space size could be different from the amount of actual physical memory the CPU can talk to < 1367079099 383775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they are reserving half of the physical address space for memory mapped I/O :) < 1367079137 559197 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://wiki.ubuntu.com/cprofitt/T530 yay I found a paste of someone else's cpuinfo -_- < 1367079140 494839 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like 36 bits < 1367079147 433313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our cluster has a couple (2? 8?) nodes with 1T, that's probably the most I've "seen" (aka ran something on) on a single system. < 1367079152 182411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1367079167 50544 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's enormous < 1367079264 676252 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to ask SLURM for node names in a queue, otherwise I'd go and run 'free' on one. < 1367079290 708256 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hey guys, can I run free on the cluster" < 1367079353 38860 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if AMD just doesn't report a useful physical size at all and that's why they say 48 bits < 1367079358 246405 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[htkallas@fn02 ~]$ free total used free shared buffers cached < 1367079361 266054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mem: 1058758568 159762660 898995908 0 267512 70067644 < 1367079363 681417 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :-/+ buffers/cache: 89427504 969331064 < 1367079366 288631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swap: 67108856 26592 67082264 < 1367079372 460914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, linewrapped to headers. < 1367079377 724313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, close enough. < 1367079424 298757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :free -b has some trouble with alignment: < 1367079426 197150 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : total used free shared buffers cached < 1367079426 403884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mem: 1084168773632 163434242048 920734531584 0 274001920 71750295552 < 1367079478 180641 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there seems to be just one of them at the moment. They had two, maybe the other one broke. < 1367079490 191628 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote ec2 < 1367079490 436196 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonMarlow says: This is the largest program (in terms of memory requirements) I've ever seen anyone run using GHC. In fact there was no machine in our building capable of running it, I had to < 1367079490 643056 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fire up the largest Amazon EC2 instance available (68GB) to debug it - this bug cost me $26. < 1367079533 173993 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our general shell server has 96 gigs. And thousands of irssi's. < 1367079537 189622 :nooga!~nooga@117-240.echostar.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1367079548 681331 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. that's a big disk cache < 1367079597 858618 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how swap is on. < 1367079602 296395 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, just 518 irssis. < 1367079640 939052 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Shadow Chancellor is named Ed Balls < 1367079653 189859 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I ask ps for only commands with no pids or anything? < 1367079678 745771 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps -ocmd < 1367079687 876273 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or one of the other five hundred syntaxii < 1367079711 490286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :-o comm worked vaguely like it. < 1367079754 722702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/GgKI there we go. < 1367079760 641711 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you can sift through for anything that looks vaguely like a password < 1367079811 387275 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... krenew? < 1367079828 993575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a kerberos thing. < 1367079844 654565 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keeps a ticket current so access to directories doesn't time out. < 1367079854 993233 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh < 1367079868 614422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they've mangled in some sort of automatic on-login krenew background task in. < 1367079878 995358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there were... issues, before. < 1367079885 6438 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that, like, 971 nfs mounts < 1367079922 421005 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe approximatively, since I think all homedirs are automounted individually. < 1367079947 436753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe not quite. < 1367079960 688358 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a good way to set it up? why not mount /home once and for all? < 1367080012 654841 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tickets are per-user, anyway. But seems that there are only 10 /m/home/homeN mounts. < 1367080050 835329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live in /m/home/home2/22/htkallas. < 1367080082 176512 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freshwater Pearl Necklace http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA11S0P55306 < 1367080095 869984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reading about the history of C while listening to neo-60s psychedelic rock
< 1367080104 395653 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know someone with a dual Xenon (i7, ivy bridge) mobo with 64 GB RAM as their desktop. Some Nvidia SLI thingy as well < 1367080131 614288 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty absurd computer < 1367080147 204653 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a home desktop that is < 1367080159 776519 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :1970s thrash metal < 1367080197 672939 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i like neo-60s < 1367080200 818478 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like they had a second 60s < 1367080203 925084 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lab systems have individually automounted home/scratch directories, at least. I'm not sure what the actual benefits there are, but at least it makes tab-completion on workstations marginally easier, when the directories aren't full of billion subdirs. < 1367080207 587665 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I insane for having 32GB in my laptop <.< < 1367080222 495487 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you use 32 gigabytes of RAM... < 1367080222 702718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it's somewhat unsettling to do ls, not see something, but then still being able to cd in. < 1367080231 442901 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, nice! < 1367080240 392452 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: not that absurd, memory size doubles all the time, what's absurd is that someone paid the Xeon and dual cpu tax for their home computer < 1367080244 622223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yep < 1367080249 778292 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hey. I use 16 GB RAM easily, I recently swapped on this thing < 1367080255 897661 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 32, not so far off < 1367080258 41556 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing it mostly goes to having a big disk cache < 1367080267 603459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :having 32 GB sounds wonderful < 1367080272 128232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAM is cheap, you should have as much as you can < 1367080275 667938 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I would kill for 32 GB in my work laptop (instead of the 12 GB I have now) < 1367080295 453103 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~2GB for my browsers ish, 1GB for other programs, 2GB for a currently running game, 10GB for the disk cache for the game... < 1367080299 631079 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably really adds up < 1367080314 817974 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again um I have an SSD so I probably don't actually need that disk cache but < 1367080317 745250 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/Lcgc nurrr, so confusing. < 1367080321 409479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/68610992/Directions+to+See+a+Ghost+folder.png < 1367080323 273901 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION spoils herself
< 1367080325 317755 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean you don't compulsively quit browsers before starting a resource-intensive game?? < 1367080343 783424 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I alt-tab between them and the game >:3 < 1367080350 504174 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, who does? < 1367080351 815881 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would need more memory, but firefox reliably crashes after using 3GB so it's ok < 1367080372 500383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I was hoping for directions on seeing a ghost folder, or perhaps at least a description about what kind of folder a ghost folder is. < 1367080376 500031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: imo think of the starving children like me who regularly exhaust their 4 gigabytes :'( < 1367080390 629470 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a 240 GB Intel 520 SSD in my work laptop, 12 GB RAM and a pretty high end mobile Core i7 (ivy bridge). Some Nvidia chipset too, not sure which one < 1367080391 241923 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if you start firefox and don't restore the previous session, and it crashes and you restore the current session, you'll still get a tab inside the current session asking you to restore the previous session < 1367080398 3335 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good stuff < 1367080403 601324 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um I'd send you some old extra RAM sticks I have < 1367080410 224748 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 2GB DDR3 sticks probably aren't useful to anyone < 1367080418 191856 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i could even put more ram in this laptop < 1367080421 188214 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Steam's in-game web browser thing is kind of a funky occasionally. < 1367080428 533871 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: have you heard of ineiros's web browsing system < 1367080429 793493 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my feeling too, it's like, everyone's lapto comes with at least 2x2GB < 1367080431 395307 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask fizzie < 1367080440 289302 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so these sticks are totally useless < 1367080446 206986 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that is assuming it is a steam game you are playing < 1367080453 795607 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :my laptop fits up to 16GB, I think ... but I was too cheap and only put 8GB in it :( < 1367080470 60425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will probably get 16 gigs when i upgrade < 1367080472 672376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like a reasonable size < 1367080473 450165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It still stays funky even when you're not playing a Steam game, you just can't access it. < 1367080480 210566 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1367080521 302769 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why is that on newegg < 1367080523 550623 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: ineiros had nested "do you want to restore these tabs?" tabs up to a depth of 8 or something. < 1367080524 832308 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: does it involve 5000 inactive tabs < 1367080530 983029 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a reasonable size will become a small size far too quickly < 1367080534 721067 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile on the topic of steam: wtf is it still complaining about the public beta for < 1367080538 832897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it involves crashing the browser to nest the restore tabs pages < 1367080555 762287 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I will get to 8 in a few months < 1367080568 716853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is what on newegg? < 1367080569 669079 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefox is crashing less often, though, so I can't say < 1367080584 434451 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Then it sort of blew up, because each level of nesting approximately doubled the amount of storage it takes, due to nested escaping; as in " -> \" -> \\\" -> \\\\\\\" -> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\". < 1367080616 613511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate show "" < 1367080618 587546 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: If you've got a lot of nesting going on, you might want to inspect your session storage, it can look amusing. < 1367080619 223149 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["","\"\"","\"\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\... < 1367080619 805222 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: very good < 1367080631 135055 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also why isn't it sessionstore.js.gz < 1367080645 544981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh < 1367080648 973834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet linked it not you < 1367080653 862139 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo telling people apart is too ahrd < 1367080700 718486 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: indeed, my new sessionstore is twice the size of the old < 1367080755 632492 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to chromium months ago. < 1367080773 56554 :nooga!~nooga@117-240.echostar.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1367080829 429269 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefox with noscript is probably the safest useful browser. Though if you take noscript off it probably becomes the unsafest < 1367080978 294250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo 'useful' and 'browser' < 1367081011 298059 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, the memory usage is really bad though < 1367081027 378356 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, also chromium is probably safer when you do need js < 1367081040 698595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess with NoScript you just enable scripts on things you want to view as applications rather than documents < 1367081051 532117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a weird property of the Web that it doesn't distinguish between applications and documents < 1367081059 818195 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1367081126 501521 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well hey, word processors have programming languages in them < 1367081176 26065 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know any browser that has a per-domain switch for javascript, flash and cross-site request < 1367081193 190714 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chromium just lets you turn everything off and on again < 1367081293 593480 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :opera has site-specific preferences for lots of stuff, including javascript and plugins (not sure about cross-site requests) < 1367081353 941293 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm is there not a noscript plugin for chromium? < 1367081361 880375 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be really nice < 1367081366 28982 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah but opera is unusable, it breaks all the non-standards-conforming websites < 1367081386 223605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome has a built-in thing that does the basics, in that you can whitelist sites for JS. < 1367081415 92098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also turn off plugins and the enable them on a site-by-site basis. < 1367081420 865332 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Including Flash.) < 1367081448 2549 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1367081515 758069 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to use FlashBlock in Chromium, but nowadays I just use its built-in "click before running" setting for Flash. < 1367081567 394076 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1367081590 121950 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is an actual NoScript too < 1367081617 975598 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? Nice < 1367081842 415638 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, went to look at Chromium settings, apparently my "Camera" is set to "BT878 video (Hauppauge (bt878))". < 1367081851 726427 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's what comes out of that device, according to mplayer: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130427-bt878.png < 1367081875 393604 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1367081887 25439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :directions to see a ghost < 1367081941 592221 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that is very similar to what comes out of mine < 1367081957 884534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I'm sure it'd get you a lot of fans in, say, Omegle. < 1367081964 191383 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe connecting the cable will allow you to get a better picture though < 1367081970 404432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :use it as a random number generator < 1367081974 183465 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that and/or "tuning" < 1367081998 288418 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you all remember LavaRand < 1367082005 615138 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I don't think anyone's really broadcasting analog TV around here. < 1367082012 878550 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is that what you look like irl < 1367082024 879760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's a good approximation. < 1367082040 947918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember it was made by SGI or something. < 1367082099 935162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did use a regular webcam (with a lens cover on) for feeding /dev/random, at one point. Gave it up since there didn't really seem to be a terribly good reason for it. < 1367082108 23411 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, has finland shut down analog tv for good? < 1367082110 281246 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov rax, [rsp]; high quality randomness < 1367082193 136513 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: In 2008 or so. < 1367082203 209576 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it was 2007. < 1367082267 536244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Finland ceased analog terrestrial transmissions nationwide at 04:00, Saturday, 1 September 2007" thank you, Wikipedia. < 1367082291 694019 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently 19 October 2007 in Sweden < 1367082293 962430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cable TV broadcasters apparently stretched it to 2008. < 1367082374 625314 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Analog FM radio is still around, but I don't think bt878 does it; some close relatives of the chipset do. < 1367082457 408999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bt879 or something.) < 1367082800 532269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe the line-in of the card can technically be used as a general-purpose reasonably-high-bandwidth ADC; where "reasonably-high" means in compared to a sound card with a 48 kHz sampling rate on inputs, for example. < 1367082804 964728 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The analog input offers 360 gHz usable BW at 8 effective bits or 100 kHz usable BW at 12 effective bits." (bt878 datasheet.) < 1367082828 187539 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I know how the line-in hole of my card is wired, I've never plugged anything in there. < 1367082912 745249 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.157.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1367083044 874895 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love it when I don't understand the code that I am typing < 1367083150 291755 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, I hate that < 1367083163 464438 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, yeah, so do I < 1367083186 159521 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I understood it at one point but forgot and I'm now just going along with it < 1367083203 901177 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/111ddb52571438dba0db3055899217db/tumblr_mi53y7UBgv1rdbszlo1_1280.jpg united kingdom < 1367083267 717131 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1367083310 706807 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was only called the united kingdom after the union with scotland in the first place < 1367083354 659545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what game? < 1367083366 182387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Formats of S8 and S16LE and sample rates of 119466-448000 is what Alsa says about the [Bt87x Analog] capture device. < 1367083375 711176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(448000 Hz is a lot of Hz.) < 1367083376 10497 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://25.media.tumblr.com/e82c763998e141b3775609dbe4164974/tumblr_mhypkdV2qI1rdbszlo1_1280.jpg better? < 1367083387 12935 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1367083389 682111 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: victoria II, i think < 1367083391 764819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1367083398 914673 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cornish empire shall rule the world < 1367083425 215759 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/231432d67b2eaa4a13e870581a66ad64/tumblr_mgrn803zPQ1rdbszlo1_1280.jpg this blog is really quite fantastic < 1367083435 256460 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the way the king of scotland is called scotland < 1367083445 543854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cornish language becomes the global language of business and science < 1367083488 713897 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, cornish is one of the non-goidelic celtic languages < 1367083489 654547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: haha wow < 1367083491 368864 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's a cornish herald saying "My King, Scotland has accepted[...]" < 1367083510 944616 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1367083512 668573 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: shhh < 1367083514 992902 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ruin it??? < 1367083516 431629 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite so far is probably http://24.media.tumblr.com/6e2bea1bc14ddd76e71dc430d839cba0/tumblr_mia6zs5VCA1rdbszlo1_400.png < 1367083523 24825 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he wasn't King Scotland XXVI of Scotland < 1367083532 76317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what island is that < 1367083535 767005 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madagascar < 1367083537 461784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1367083550 908390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :crotobaltislavonia aiwa! < 1367083588 857450 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do you have a `linque' < 1367083640 695383 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh gosh there's a blog for that? < 1367083651 328656 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>AUSTRIA omg < 1367083661 709453 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is EU3 the best thing ever < 1367083767 428351 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1367083863 900333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah, Python has modular exponentiation built in < 1367083867 682616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pow(base, expt, mod) < 1367084332 603150 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Fiora: http://believableworlds.tumblr.com/ < 1367084352 256018 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my favorite is actually the one involving "Incan Songhai" but i'm too lazy to find it again < 1367084366 4026 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/ed05bf8e1668e65ae79a7dbfe88da6d4/tumblr_mgu1mhkMKd1rdbszlo1_500.jpg blaze it < 1367084413 827525 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://believableworlds.tumblr.com/image/48858474406 <-- my Arabic Culture teacher was from Nejd < 1367084471 640166 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it like mostly empty < 1367084489 202190 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nejd? No. The Empty Quarter? Yes. < 1367084498 559995 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hence the name "The Empty Quarter" < 1367084507 243462 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sensible < 1367084516 463239 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that map though, Nejd is shown as covering the empty quarter < 1367084530 27587 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :In reality, it's the central part of Saudi Arabia < 1367084550 432053 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Saudi_Arabia_-_Nejd_region_locator.png ? < 1367084567 226427 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1367084588 69438 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i thought the "empty quarter" was pretty mjuch everything not on the coast < 1367084590 343507 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than the south < 1367084598 3112 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops! < 1367084704 286724 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: part of the Empty Quarter that I've been too: http://amplivex.com/SHAYBAH3a.jpg < 1367084872 145577 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1367084927 342628 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1367085210 58119 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is Taneb D: < 1367085219 892099 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you want taneb for anyway < 1367085236 26801 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were going to make something goofy for Ludum Dare together < 1367085254 183343 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :But right now I'm just making something goofy for Ludum Dare by myself < 1367085301 650079 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: this blog is amazing < 1367085309 751529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1367085340 162505 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at http://believableworlds.tumblr.com/image/48858474406 , tries to figure out what's wrong. looks and looks. then. SCANDINAVIA
< 1367085425 357525 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://believableworlds.tumblr.com/image/48544010152 wales < 1367086377 940016 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: "Neuchatelian Africa, now, that's normal" < 1367086466 600395 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: looks pretty/hot/pretty hot < 1367086478 144881 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1367086494 363481 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nice to look at but not very nice to live in < 1367086537 623635 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neuchâtel is apparently part of Switzerland. rad < 1367086591 477066 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: also: is the modular exponentiation like a good implementation < 1367086683 158787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, it's fast enough for my purposes < 1367086735 843186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can do like 1024 bit numbers quickly < 1367086738 333651 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://believableworlds.tumblr.com/image/39664457525 am i reading this right < 1367086740 481047 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and oh < 1367087011 498625 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what's the deal there < 1367087029 748948 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the dude is having an affair with his daughter/ < 1367087056 846153 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let pow w t f| f==0 = mod 1 w |odd f = pow w t (f-1)*f`mod`w |True = pow w t (div f 2)^2`mod`w in pow 3 (2^2^5+1) (2^(2^5-1)) < 1367087058 528201 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1367087114 878224 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you are reading that right D: < 1367087131 378695 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/cd37c3cc241d80390fd6a0ba6b877586/tumblr_mf67chV6CD1rdbszlo1_1280.jpg argh, even i know that's not how those letters work < 1367087149 158306 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolol < 1367087178 749743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was polish ever written with cyrilic? < 1367087193 869428 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :poldind < 1367087206 728135 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, i dunno. pretty much everything was at some point but < 1367087224 972265 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean poland already had a writing system during the soviet era so they wouldn't have invented one < 1367087339 744620 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like no, but on the other hand Aleut was for a while! < 1367087368 86172 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1367087720 276036 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what modular arithmetic thingy are you doing? < 1367087735 598916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :implementing diffie-hellman and RSA for fun < 1367087763 468672 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, cool! < 1367087801 8581 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wooooooowww (re http://believableworlds.tumblr.com/image/39664457525) < 1367087830 815740 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah <_> < 1367087876 693728 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd make an incest comment but I get the feeling much of the royalty of that era was terribly incestuous anyways < 1367087913 960378 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they were that incestuous < 1367087923 529215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :les cousins dangereux < 1367087948 199884 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md5avc57MR1qc0163o1_500.jpg with strange consequences < 1367087952 377365 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1367087982 87490 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well they *told* you to beware of mpreg < 1367088014 970097 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they did. they did and i didn't listen < 1367088105 433477 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm curious to know what the outcome was... Was it cancer?" "Haha no. After selecting the little box he loses his pregnancy symptom" < 1367088275 505892 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1367088414 280015 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that was a real message? XD < 1367088443 260285 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, some kinda hack < 1367088447 201440 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awww < 1367088463 631449 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you even get things like incan songhai in the unmodified game < 1367088472 839945 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I haven't played it enough... < 1367088495 753507 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not very good at managing royalty < 1367088503 999478 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered: liberating the ainu from the japanese, in a game where you play as the Cree < 1367088516 941680 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@_@ < 1367088541 235322 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :think about it!! < 1367088581 430616 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never played any of these games but i read a narrative LP where scotland takes over europe from a base in Memphis so it's p. much the best thing ever < 1367088597 305846 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that once happened irl < 1367088627 202988 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the little known scottish imperial period < 1367088653 30360 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly i'd believe about anything from history after learning about polish-mongolian literature and basque-icelandic creole and shit < 1367088661 930404 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :history is another country and it is fucking insane < 1367088708 823515 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Thank god we don't live there" < 1367088744 470781 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, i would like to read this < 1367088753 849605 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i thought history just made you angry < 1367088784 959820 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's cool. it's far enough away that i can read things like "40% of the population was killed" and not be emotionally affected < 1367088791 712868 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lparchive.org/A-Scotsman-In-Egypt/ < 1367088818 963741 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg it's sankis < 1367088833 41406 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sankis? < 1367088851 207724 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know next to nothing about the last king of scotland but i'm totally namedropping it here due to the proximity of "scotland" and "egypt" (a country like "uganda") < 1367088860 170292 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so-called "uganda" < 1367088891 911064 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lparchive.org/Dwarf-Fortress-Boatmurdered/Update%202-18/ sankis < 1367088901 87415 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :read from the 25th of moonstone < 1367088903 344072 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lparchive.org/A-Scotsman-In-Egypt/ <-- oh that was real huh < 1367088906 721327 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wrong paste < 1367088908 821251 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular", in addition to his officially stated claim of being the uncrowned King of Scotland. < 1367088927 232148 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like "and Uganda in Particular" < 1367088944 194088 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he awarded himself a victoria cross. ballsy < 1367088948 713004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it starts off trying to be your overly formal ridiculously grand title but then it's like < 1367088952 814585 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, also, uganda < 1367088959 303788 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty proud of that one!! < 1367089168 256129 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're getting me reading this LP < 1367089218 103651 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if a more reasonable monarch had funny things like that in their titles < 1367089218 983206 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my gosh the intro XD < 1367089258 635806 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"George the Third, by the Grace of God, King of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, and so forth" well that's pretty good < 1367089264 650876 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"defender of the faith bla bla bla" < 1367089267 978155 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most royalty have lots of extra titles that usually aren't mentioned < 1367089272 958507 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww this is written in-universe < 1367089289 483799 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they did the out of universe stuff in the forums thread < 1367089302 734886 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's where they explained the ridiculous exploits they used to make the thing possible i think < 1367089365 513630 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the scottish egypt thing? < 1367089403 252190 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any LPs like this that explain like all their exploits in the LP itself? the narration is cool but I'd love to learn all the things they're donig < 1367089436 341135 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did his title actually include "and so forth" < 1367089540 645715 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is why I really love Sulla's Civ 4 game logs, they explain everything!) < 1367089562 541256 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :par la Grâce de Dieu, Reine du Royaume-Uni, du Canada et de ses autres Royaumes et Territoires, Chef du Commonwealth, Défenseur de la Foi < 1367089593 327863 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you forgot the start < 1367089595 432612 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elizabeth Deux < 1367089601 791346 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so wikipedia says < 1367089658 994397 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, there are a few but i've forgotten which < 1367089687 613212 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: none that i'm aware of, the closest i've seen is a couple DF LPs < 1367089705 196687 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we modded in these psycho zombie dorf enemies" etc < 1367089752 108599 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they actually cheated in the scot LP, anyway, just exploited stupidities of the AI < 1367089793 142481 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's the part that's really the best < 1367089801 199919 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coming up with amazing strategies and exploits < 1367089810 991880 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The SA series of DF LPs got steadily more narrative though < 1367089827 321762 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I still think Headshoots was the best) < 1367089828 442139 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite of all time is still the Sulla "cultural conquest" game series < 1367089838 280327 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :headshoots rocked < 1367089840 77769 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where his goal was to win a domination/conquest victory in civ 4 < 1367089845 540399 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :without ever firing a shot, or conquering a city < 1367089851 960971 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well i'm not a gamer so i mostly paid attention to the plot you nerd < 1367089853 968949 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game mechanics abuse was staggering < 1367089855 774373 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! wait < 1367089858 780035 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget the best lp < 1367089859 301870 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was amazing < 1367089859 802351 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.computerandvideogames.com/161570/blog/galciv-2-war-report-final-entry/?site=pcg < 1367089866 381515 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man that one's fucking great < 1367089868 624009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the sequel, http://www.computerandvideogames.com/195920/blog/galactic-civilizations-diary-days-1-26/# < 1367089874 50742 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no I'm a nerd >_< < 1367089888 290711 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dons her black thick-rimmed glasses
< 1367089894 358370 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Elizabeth II, Dei Gratia Britanniarum Regnorumque Suorum Ceterorum Regina, Consortionis Populorum Princeps, Fidei Defensor" not bad < 1367089926 170479 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"King of the English, raised by the right hand of the Almighty to the Throne of the whole Kingdom of Britain" haha i think this guy is my favorite premodern english king < 1367089932 521688 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Deus Ex you could beat the first level without killing anyone, and you got an achievement or whatever for it, but also your cybernetically enhanced killing machine coworkers would look at your funny < 1367089962 650557 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you sure you wanna mess with the hand of god you scottish motherfuckers?? < 1367089972 756120 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in deus ex you can complete the first level without doing anything < 1367089985 160875 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367089987 361533 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :luigi augments by doing absolutely nothing < 1367090002 800439 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a notorious exploit where if you lob a gas grenade into unatco hq it'll piss off one of the guards and he'll open the front door < 1367090007 151218 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1367090017 232305 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1367090033 84322 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've all seen "luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing" right < 1367090040 996455 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1367090044 782803 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1367090045 622011 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1367090059 422073 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy lied...... < 1367090066 820459 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1367090069 780537 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJZwjYv3sfk masterful AI < 1367090090 620372 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i lie about this time < 1367090098 521350 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1367090103 876207 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were some exploits like that in ssbm < 1367090114 102186 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the ai would repeatedly walk off a cliff < 1367090136 40807 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* coppro is leaving. goodbye. <-- very slowly, i take. < 1367090157 191510 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CwDngBhmQXY#! this is the best < 1367090157 398287 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+it < 1367090172 10516 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Luigi beats every level 9 CPU in SSBM without touching the controller < 1367090172 400180 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I got better < 1367090173 579652 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of amazing < 1367090184 144569 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: whew < 1367090249 390796 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : in Deus Ex you could beat the first level without killing anyone, and you got an achievement or whatever for it, but also your cybernetically enhanced killing machine coworkers would look at your funny <-- you can get through that entire game not killing anyone < 1367090256 797264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1367090266 671255 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you can't, i think < 1367090272 746835 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anna and gunther have to die < 1367090273 191355 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, iirc there are some exploits you can use to not kill the bosses iirc < 1367090278 207004 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1367090293 534356 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Deus Ex: Human you do have to kill the bosses though. So that is like... 3 kills? < 1367090303 650197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://i.imgur.com/dAtcCfH.gif wheeeee < 1367090314 200255 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deus Ex HR was a great game with bad boss fights. < 1367090316 182128 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can complete HR without killing anyone because the bossfights in that game NEVER HAPPENED < 1367090317 331902 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's reasonably common to have "pacifist" gameplay in games that aren't unabashed killfests < 1367090324 446193 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really didn't like those bosses. < 1367090327 381455 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: incredible < 1367090328 590687 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ah yes, quite so < 1367090350 180425 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, actually, going non-lethal in the tutorial was a bitch < 1367090408 40674 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, yeah I always play my stealth games non-lethal and non-seen. < 1367090422 570116 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerdlinger < 1367090426 861321 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, ? < 1367090430 600668 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and here's what i know about HR bossfights http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/9/2 < 1367090454 914394 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : also http://i.imgur.com/dAtcCfH.gif wheeeee <-- LP snake? < 1367090473 627008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that the Shadow Chancellor of the UK is named ED BALLS < 1367090480 440277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :today is Ed Balls Day < 1367090490 280440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you know literally every time i see snake < 1367090492 670853 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Shadow Chancellor"? < 1367090493 691186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes me want to implement a snake game < 1367090498 820103 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: chances in the shadows < 1367090504 890949 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, easy one to implement < 1367090505 680931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yeah the UK has a Shadow Chancellor < 1367090505 887903 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he used to be normal chancellor < 1367090507 960516 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like he controls all the gambling but only the kind that goes on in dark back alleys < 1367090511 61943 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, what does that mean < 1367090513 770676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the title is much cooler than the actual office < 1367090514 700444 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just told you wtf < 1367090516 870861 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo just use M-x snake like a real man etc jokes < 1367090518 47463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :listen to me!!! < 1367090529 265341 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, pull the other one < 1367090531 861854 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, the Opposition cabinet is called the shadow cabinet < 1367090534 616834 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shadow chancellor is the opposition leader, right? < 1367090535 749473 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1367090539 950481 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was only one real programmer < 1367090541 552984 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not leader < 1367090541 850456 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ah < 1367090543 319637 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal i just don't feel that way about you :( < 1367090546 90692 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i uh < 1367090552 205222 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, lol < 1367090559 250789 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think there's a name for opposition leader beyond 'leader of the opposition' < 1367090563 511662 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK government is so beautifully ridiculous < 1367090569 980556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chancellor of the Exchequer is the minister in charge of the money < 1367090576 901506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :phat stacks of £££ < 1367090578 30833 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: leave me to my fantasies sir < 1367090582 200439 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to be confused with the First Lord of the Treasury < 1367090587 651787 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is of course the prime minister < 1367090592 480965 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1367090593 211214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're sort of #2 in the government overall I guess? < 1367090609 661028 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i found out about the outlawries joke i'm pretty convinced the elected government is just an elaborate joke and the country is actually ruled by king murdoch or whatever < 1367090610 830518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: and there's a "shadow cabinet" composed of whatever party isn't currently in power < 1367090617 301564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chancellor of the exchequer is the guy who invests the gambling-related murders of people who used to handle cheques < 1367090617 509176 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :outlawries bill* < 1367090621 149132 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guarantee it < 1367090626 266600 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wigs are still worn in court < 1367090627 500716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it's the Shadow Chancellor's job to complain constantly about the real Chancellor < 1367090628 251313 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, oh yeah, the stupid "mostly two party" system < 1367090628 900632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*investigates < 1367090638 67946 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the title of prime minister is fun because it's basically a giant ball of random important titles bundled together < 1367090638 960990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's all he does < 1367090653 510334 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, oh? What is the full string? < 1367090658 171372 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The prime minister is odd, because he isn't two < 1367090666 791220 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, but aren't there three parties in UK? < 1367090670 824288 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should i write a snake game < 1367090673 321186 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, three big ones < 1367090674 262809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :important life questions < 1367090684 973583 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes, that fits in the MBR < 1367090687 170757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/edballsmp/status/63623585020915713 < 1367090699 800600 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yeah, I don't know how they decide which party or parties is the opposition < 1367090700 7414 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ed balls is the guy ben swain was based off, afaik < 1367090714 278020 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yep now i'm certain < 1367090720 432842 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1367090738 868598 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way this is real. real government figures were be shouting about aborting muslims or something < 1367090743 430696 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evenin' < 1367090751 762372 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning < 1367090765 212767 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey Taneb! < 1367090766 930954 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, in US maybe? < 1367090771 229984 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ThatOtherPerson has been looking for you < 1367090780 833508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well I was going to do it in Haskell. < 1367090786 712248 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: I forgot that I was going to someone's birthday party < 1367090790 238648 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://twitter.com/edballsmp/status/63623585020915713 <-- is that retweets or? < 1367090792 604835 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah :D < 1367090792 811656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: wow amazing tweet < 1367090797 381078 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know how twitter works < 1367090805 836342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: is which < 1367090810 550756 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ed balls tweeted the string "Ed Balls" < 1367090811 422008 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, ?? < 1367090812 611265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shows the tweet, then replies < 1367090824 631981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the little icons next to the retweet / favorite count are the ppl who have rt'd / fav'd it < 1367090827 1232 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes that's how i know my gov't is real < 1367090838 390893 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: on the other hand, I now own a collection of Thor comics < 1367090838 861010 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, right, but why is there nothing the guy in question himself says in your link < 1367090843 121293 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1367090850 911571 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no he says "Ed Balls". that's the tweet < 1367090862 522060 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: congratulations! ... I guess? < 1367090871 896648 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, Looks like "Ed Balls" is the name of that guy??? < 1367090876 925081 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1367090879 1918 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also the tweet. < 1367090887 671700 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know this may be a little complicated to understand < 1367090889 820957 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, look here is his twitter: https://twitter.com/edballsmp < 1367090904 80497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the joke < 1367090906 111275 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I guess that is a tweet, not just a title at the top < 1367090908 920850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: have you noticed Vorpal is swedish. you'll never be able to explain anything to him < 1367090914 179579 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hopeless. < 1367090916 757157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he tweeted just his own name < 1367090921 767047 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods
< 1367090922 861049 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that the multithreaded version of edball < 1367090925 490817 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, understanding social media is hopeless. < 1367090934 740669 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a lot of it make no bloody sense. < 1367090935 170915 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: see what i mean < 1367090940 401162 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw here is what a proper government looks like http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2007/06/redistribution_1.html < 1367090943 404886 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1367090943 611834 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is hilarious < 1367090946 961243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a pokémon < 1367090950 390772 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(everybody read this it's amazing) < 1367090969 372299 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: does that apply to all swedes or just Vorpal? < 1367090982 363515 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, all of us. < 1367090989 36636 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, (too bad for you) < 1367090996 524889 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, you were kidnapped at birth hth < 1367091039 811116 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was? from/to where? < 1367091042 514133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well I don't know you're pretty good < 1367091080 621534 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, idk, do you feel any inner national calling < 1367091092 236460 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh also, i was reading an old book the other day and it mentioned a Dr. Butt < 1367091095 851453 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't sure what to think about that < 1367091106 80516 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was published in like 1806 so definitely before the invention of humor < 1367091201 83204 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Butt a british name? < 1367091208 827308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An Ed Balls bookmarklet[7] tool allows users to change the text on an entire webpage to the name “Ed Ballsâ€� (shown below)." < 1367091233 281884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told Steam to do something that "require[s] an Internet connection and a few minutes' time", two hours ago; it's still claiming to be doing that something. < 1367091248 851104 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hmmmmm the name bryan caplan is familiar < 1367091250 761708 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what something? < 1367091263 240570 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, also is that for Linux or Windows? < 1367091263 951401 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm sorry to hear that < 1367091293 141152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Punchline: Through the lens of the Jock/Nerd Theory of History, the welfare state doesn't look like a serious effort to "equalize outcomes." It looks more like a serious effort to block the "revenge of the nerds" - to keep them from using their financial success to unseat the jocks on every dimension of social status. < 1367091298 191531 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1367091304 796291 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Windows, and the window says it's doing "game content conversion". It's for Cogs. (Thought I'd spend a few moments clicking things.) < 1367091319 653430 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ah < 1367091326 72709 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah that might be annoying < 1367091340 592363 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: american political discourse < 1367091346 762453 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Especially with a game like Cogs I would assume it is broken by now < 1367091358 510294 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that save file should be pretty small < 1367091380 300784 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: (if it helps, imagine Thatcher wearing coke bottle glasses and a pocket protector) < 1367091406 541304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did thatcher like nerds < 1367091408 981976 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I told Steam to exit, and then restarted it, and now it's performing "first time setup" of Cogs. Oh well. < 1367091418 212081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would want some citations on the claim that in 'primitive tribes' the nerds get beat up < 1367091429 298051 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ouch, You probably lost saves then < 1367091437 453323 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also don't believe that hunting and farming are about brute strength < 1367091438 783363 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just me or does the whole jock/nerd thing ignore everyone who isn't white and a dude basically < 1367091467 591551 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the internet, you will hear many claims of doing something the "first time". < 1367091476 673385 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: as an economist, i can assure you that human development is exactly as depicted in 80s films about high school < 1367091476 879924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I think all my saves were on the non-Steam Linux version, anyway. I just noticed it has achievements in Steam, and thought I should do some of those. I mean, achievements. < 1367091485 902741 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: not entirely, but that's largely true < 1367091501 651079 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, you mean in the context of the article or < 1367091506 165280 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you like achivements? Why? < 1367091516 233803 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually ignore them < 1367091520 632224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think for women the stereotypes are pretty vs. smart rather than strong vs. smart < 1367091523 720996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes even less sense < 1367091528 188810 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: don't forget californian < 1367091542 611646 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, brunette vs. blond? < 1367091553 41239 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :excludes gingers!! < 1367091556 35538 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's some sort of a thing. < 1367091568 263075 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and albinos i guess although they probably come under blonde < 1367091577 707405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that Ed Balls tweet was sent at 4:20 PM < 1367091584 102107 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well that was nebulous... < 1367091586 40636 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously? < 1367091589 462804 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This post led Bradford DeLong to call Caplan "the stupidest man alive".[35] < 1367091591 941877 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ed balls for president of england < 1367091593 357695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/proof-that-the-ed-balls-meme-is-really-getting-out-of-hand says < 1367091604 951664 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: excellent < 1367091612 522622 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bong hits 4 Ed < 1367091623 951212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just unlocked one. < 1367091628 361830 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In April 2010, he caused controversy with a blog post that argued that women were more free in the 1880s than they are in the 21st century" sounds like a good post < 1367091639 311309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ed balls did? or nerd economist guy? < 1367091649 451728 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :caplan < 1367091657 562708 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well I believe the stereotypes is blond = pretty but stupid & vulnerable, brunette = can take care of themselves, ginger = ? < 1367091658 91037 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and god he just LOOKS like a nerd too < 1367091665 743661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367091666 31678 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BryanCaplan.jpg look at this fucking face! < 1367091683 2321 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what /i'd/ look like as a fucking economist i betcha < 1367091689 829606 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is the tie pattern < 1367091768 562583 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone read delong's blog? i have a friend who does but he's way more into economics than i'll ever be < 1367091814 941440 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :White middle class male american economics < 1367091822 741685 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably insightful < 1367091873 241739 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's like that or marxists and have you /read/ marxists recently < 1367091894 91815 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly I hate the jocks vs. nerds stuff because wealthy grown men use it as an excuse for bad behavior < 1367091949 202288 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: today I was on a train casually reading a comic when someone compared me to the big bang theory, and there were enough drunk football fans to warrant a police presence < 1367091960 62195 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1367091960 481268 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :: < 1367091962 390013 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:| < 1367091971 272432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: did you punch them and rely on the police to back you up < 1367091990 192273 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I can't punch < 1367091994 694181 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, ok let's calm down and assess the situation < 1367091998 983483 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: just like $nerd from $media! < 1367092004 182368 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know they weren't comparing you to the actual theory < 1367092010 901036 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if you can't punch, kick < 1367092018 331835 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I just realized... now that I have money, I could buy an AW citizenship <-- something tells me we should have seen this coming. < 1367092019 341195 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: they had my legs < 1367092019 548470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :failing that, cutlery < 1367092022 213432 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember to bite in truly bad situations < 1367092037 22593 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :biting carries an unacceptable risk of dental trauma < 1367092043 871705 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm kind of confused here, did you actually get beaten up < 1367092045 761635 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I was not sure whether they were comparing me to the theory, TV show or song < 1367092058 575603 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However the TV show makes most sense in context < 1367092063 301371 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I was not beaten up < 1367092085 597301 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's baffling me is like... < 1367092091 658608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :were they actually comparing you to the /show/ < 1367092094 549140 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not any particular character on it < 1367092102 572671 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :were they comparing you to sheldon < 1367092115 951799 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The person literally said "This guy looks like the big bang theory" < 1367092121 900923 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1367092131 141929 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And she touched my comic book! < 1367092135 591438 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!! < 1367092135 891686 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My shiny knew comic book! < 1367092139 572072 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i am now uncomfortably aware of the fact that even the muffled intonation of that show annoys the hell out of me) < 1367092142 51209 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :female jocks?? what is this madness < 1367092143 711548 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly awful btw you're reminding me of this guy i once knew < 1367092150 879046 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's impossible!!! < 1367092151 472933 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well by knew i mean... well let's not get into that, but anyway < 1367092155 931251 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think this was "girlfriend of the jock" < 1367092156 531925 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is she your nemesis < 1367092167 41089 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jockfriend < 1367092181 563125 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have never seen her before, do not intend to see her again, do not know her name, and cannot remember what she looks like < 1367092195 71767 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok what's the opposite of synecdoche < 1367092196 75011 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh dear, a secret nemesis < 1367092206 781664 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :White middle class male american jocks < 1367092207 911159 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the opposite of synecdoche is synecdoche < 1367092209 621458 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very convenient < 1367092218 791699 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, why do you keep saying white middle class american male < 1367092219 641511 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway drunk people are good at that i guess. good to know. < 1367092249 611940 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: only a third of those words are correct < 1367092265 324442 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"White working class female British jocks" < 1367092266 62260 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :white class < 1367092287 797370 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My comic book with Jane Foster! < 1367092305 13681 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, you corrected half the words hth < 1367092315 96537 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I can't count right now < 1367092317 271982 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jane Foster is a Marvel Comics supporting character who for many years was the nurse employed by Dr. Donald Blake, the secret identity of the Norse god superhero Thor. < 1367092332 911837 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not since the bendy straw pentagram < 1367092366 991737 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, five-sixths correct is good. < 1367092394 42389 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the remaining incorrect word was "jock" < 1367092428 62111 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe she was scottish < 1367092453 456745 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :people at school say that I remind them of someone, maybe his name was Sheldon, from the Big Bang Theory < 1367092463 882671 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I think she was geordie < 1367092467 932083 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never watched the show, so I don't know if that's good or bad... < 1367092473 693302 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: bad < 1367092488 412658 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should get swole < 1367092489 680371 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an american sitcom < 1367092498 391769 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :american sitcoms are bad < 1367092506 572136 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means you're an antisocial nerd with OCD < 1367092507 716467 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheldon is the designated Weird Guy on BBT < 1367092514 953369 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :white middle class male american sitcom < 1367092522 924684 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so any kinds of Weird-ness are instantly associated with him < 1367092523 629671 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1367092545 691981 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it better that they then say that I'm not really like Sheldon afterwards? < 1367092551 702542 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my favourite thing about this is that they can't actually decide on a way of being consistently weird so they just have him Act Weird in every episode in wildly inconsistent ways) < 1367092565 782079 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't really matter anyway, for reasons roughly explained by phantom < 1367092569 29152 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they probably mean well < 1367092569 773458 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: wow you're sure being a SHELDON about this < 1367092580 111646 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are not assholes, generally speaking < 1367092581 885541 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i've seen like five minutes of the big bang theory) < 1367092620 139922 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, man i got so angry for a second there before my higher thought processes pointed out it was a joke < 1367092696 412990 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: your "higher thought processes", uh huh, keep going, sheldon < 1367092720 571657 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternajoke higher thought processes? [adjoint joke] < 1367092744 123696 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should work out what adjoints are some day < 1367092747 902061 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they sound fun < 1367092775 674036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : american sitcoms are bad â†� not all just many / most < 1367092780 582195 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just say no Phantom_Hoover < 1367092789 684678 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :community seemed pretty good < 1367092807 196804 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :follow up the nerdinsult joke with a category theory joke. good < 1367092812 937709 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of those sitcoms exist to make the remaining ones look good < 1367092857 151684 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is it really a category theory joke if you just rely on it sounding like "a joint" a lot < 1367092857 592808 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Community is good, although kind of inconsistent < 1367092861 775560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quality wise < 1367092870 912527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's good because they try a lot of strange inventive things and they mostly work < 1367092872 892800 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :adjoint functor and now she's all funked < 1367092878 282389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not because they do any one thing really well < 1367092889 632291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have some gripes with the show especially now that it's in its 4th season and the original showrunner left < 1367092896 612349 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mclzvopMTU1rdbszlo1_1280.jpg < 1367092903 132612 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wow that joke is now just shitty < 1367092914 322863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: look shachaf started it < 1367092919 742709 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, yes i stopped at season 3 and told myself "and they all lived dysfunctionally ever after" < 1367092935 71017 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i laughed < 1367092944 132211 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mce4i9m3i51rdbszlo1_400.png so simple, and yet so perfect < 1367092948 362581 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on < 1367092949 541817 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, i like how catalonia has been harried before the new zealand advance < 1367092956 327097 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Catalonia isn't there! < 1367092979 992811 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yeah it is, it's west of prussia < 1367092986 813356 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't you even take history class < 1367092987 191504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mix up catalonia and caledonia < 1367093017 713683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good American sitcoms: 30 Rock, Community, Arrested Development, Seinfeld, Louie (if that counts as a sitcom, Veep (if that counts as American), Parks and Recreation, The Office (first few seasons and yes, I know it's not the same as the British one, but it's good in its own way) < 1367093037 762905 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :30 rock is great at least < 1367093052 264765 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :30 rock had some meh seasons too but yes, in its prime it was fucking fantastic < 1367093057 22284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been rewatching season 2 and... wow < 1367093071 693552 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like parks and rec but for a while i wasn't really sure if it was just the theme tune i like < 1367093076 282509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1367093086 814234 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbxyqy3rIm1rdbszlo1_1280.png this one's for your teacher < 1367093100 233125 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man the more i look at this the more fucked it is < 1367093108 700753 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1367093108 907959 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JAPAN < 1367093114 502629 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Better Off Ted is also quite good < 1367093115 783694 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nejd < 1367093119 73898 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEJD < 1367093128 443157 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Catalonia's east of Prussia, you nitwit < 1367093132 750357 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently kokand is a city in uzbekistan < 1367093141 969521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I also mix up Catalonia and Caledonia < 1367093146 370460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and New Catalonia and New Caledonia < 1367093154 642228 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, is this just where the name generator assigns places < 1367093168 712171 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did all these places actually migrate < 1367093175 319881 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no, the places start out where they did in reality < 1367093188 764749 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though this might be edited? i can't imagine the shit that must have gone down to make this happen < 1367093188 972023 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is japan even THERE < 1367093211 392191 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i mean hey, in real life the turks were from like mongolia and now they're where the byzantines were, so who fucking knows < 1367093253 218133 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And weren't the celts like originally from north India or something < 1367093282 992569 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you'd have to back to indo-europeans for that < 1367093291 521972 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case they'd be from like uh... i think like ukraine? < 1367093301 995615 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1367093311 404836 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wp sez they're from middle europe < 1367093316 633600 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indo-Europe < 1367093333 92364 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now they're a football team from Glasgow < 1367093340 854675 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IE_expansion.png yeah like crimea or some shit < 1367093358 192578 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the caucasus, wow i suck at geography?? < 1367093390 62152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it began in afrika ka ka ka ka ka ka ka < 1367093392 73918 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :celtic laws have some similarities with like the vedas though, so that's cool. yay historical linguistics < 1367093396 867282 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good song < 1367093404 82247 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is that ireland < 1367093411 872496 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what ireland < 1367093424 579144 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh in scandinavia? seems so < 1367093438 558630 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the true home of ireland < 1367093637 834139 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, fun fact, all the 'big' football teams in scotland are descended from irish sectarianism < 1367093747 175816 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even Berwick Rangers < 1367093779 982399 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't big Taneb < 1367093786 982515 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're BIG TO ME < 1367093793 64268 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :berwick rangers 5eva < 1367093815 424691 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TREE(3)eva < 1367093844 934407 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's p. eva < 1367093873 595013 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3eva? < 1367094043 792911 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not very eva < 1367094153 314926 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, that's barely eva at all < 1367094240 188730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone tell me if 323881938846738047746870455602874074901336126707685518455811764915667973569999865537886964769040496686033405297612705110899842872859133005347540587475353582859705921325259462979638585820989306894214743679831554044493873890738256566574450230154534309506024889546552539655250471277326377578604547835848811647989 is prime < 1367094250 753039 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes < 1367094258 53748 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ï€eva < 1367094258 693694 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't you just pass that to factor(1). < 1367094264 792551 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, have you tried adding all the digits < 1367094269 282757 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well factor isn't a person < 1367094282 373459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor complains it's too large :3 < 1367094292 696944 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, a thousand bits is too large! < 1367094299 52456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a thousand and twenty-four and so. < 1367094308 743306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: (this is a classical statement btw) < 1367094350 777926 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :gp < 1367094350 984671 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :? isprime(323881938846738047746870455602874074901336126707685518455811764915667973569999865537886964769040496686033405297612705110899842872859133005347540587475353582859705921325259462979638585820989306894214743679831554044493873890738256566574450230154534309506024889546552539655250471277326377578604547835848811647989) < 1367094350 984882 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :%59 = 1 < 1367094358 752888 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-classicists are not allowed to say "yes" < 1367094374 63079 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they allowed to say ¬¬yes < 1367094377 74175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well I didn't identify the person who could tell him that < 1367094383 392522 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ¬¬no < 1367094384 93456 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i get the joke < 1367094406 792558 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, that's just no! < 1367094415 554585 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know? < 1367094417 203083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given a number that's around 1024 bits long, I'd a priori have assumed it's the product of two primes. < 1367094421 802591 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i wasn't sure since like < 1367094423 483613 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1367094424 620784 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a biologist < 1367094425 4193 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no means no, but yes means ¬¬yes < 1367094455 132931 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a biologist reading classic texts < 1367094462 872519 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Birds: Their Form and Function" < 1367094465 983107 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a manual for birds < 1367094471 904070 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure birds don't know anything about formal logic < 1367094492 172697 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't you ever read To Mock a Mockingbird < 1367094495 912871 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf beat this guy up < 1367094501 707696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there ISO standards pertaining to birds < 1367094502 612702 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh did he < 1367094571 714194 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't think so < 1367094572 682965 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Scripture facts on Abomination, Birds Of. Bible encyclopedia for study of the Bible." this was a good google kmc. < 1367094580 432981 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.iso.org/iso/home/search.htm?qt=bird&published=on&active_tab=standards&sort_by=rel < 1367094604 974223 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo birds should be standardised < 1367094605 422930 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i guess there might be standards for classification (j/k taxonomy is a clusterfuck) < 1367094619 72629 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"All authorities agree that the exact origin of the word bird, as we apply it to feathered creatures, is unknown." !!!!! < 1367094650 434647 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, bats aren't kosher < 1367094651 244427 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame < 1367094657 520155 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fundamental unsolved problems in ornithology < 1367094675 554167 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: that's etymology... < 1367094680 534670 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"squid" is also unknown < 1367094684 943817 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo etymology is impossible < 1367094700 22690 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"penguin"'s also unknown, iirc < 1367094706 21655 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's narrowed down to two < 1367094764 553813 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This change from regarding the stork as a delicacy to its protection by a death penalty merely indicates the hold the characteristics of the bird had taken on people as it became better known, and also the spread of the regard in which it was held throughout Palestine. < 1367094867 943207 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The trunk of a bird is compact and in almost all instances boat-shaped. Without doubt prehistoric man conceived his idea of navigation and fashioned his vessel from the body of a water bird, and then noticed that a soaring bird steered its course with its tail and so added the rudder." mmhm, mmhm. < 1367095230 493130 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1367095421 63567 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something I've been messing around with: http://jsfiddle.net/Mf3VE/1/ < 1367095425 203474 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :(use the arrow keys) < 1367095443 780571 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's an updated version < 1367095512 604230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this piet < 1367095516 814728 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1367095555 498091 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb and I are maybe going to use this to make a game for Ludum Dare < 1367095570 313768 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's Piet as in the artist, not the programming language < 1367095588 991906 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does the gameplay work < 1367095593 571313 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/piet.html < 1367095596 797601 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it doesn't yet < 1367095600 274302 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no idea yet >.> < 1367095607 377228 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have to figure that part out :P < 1367095632 870013 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yep, I've seen that before < 1367096513 434432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, arecord only accepts sample rates up to 192 kHz. < 1367096544 864271 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame. I really want to use ALSA for all my digital signal sampling. < 1367096674 925618 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think ALSA per se has such a limitation -- snd_pcm_hw_params_get_rate_max call says 448 kHz is just fine -- it's just the arecord tool. < 1367096752 705034 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8lrarI8Zs1rdbszlo1_1280.jpg wisely did Send Delegate to the Pope < 1367096793 694471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: amazing < 1367096841 736093 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8lqtbA2OX1rdbszlo1_500.png fuck you, france < 1367096885 674298 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this < 1367096930 765504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: Hoel III wisely made the decision to Send Delegate to the Pope. < 1367096934 858884 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :history < 1367096958 224652 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8lqimFtnM1rdbszlo1_500.png do you even know anything about canada < 1367096990 140581 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmmmmmmmmmmm < 1367097304 505320 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1367097391 365225 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: related: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8lsjeRbUg1rdbszlo1_1280.png < 1367097419 984455 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1367097434 535296 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: amazing < 1367097440 140837 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: btw link mnoqy to the blog of these < 1367097441 827208 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8lsjeRbUg1rdbszlo2_1280.png turkey, turkey, turkey, turkey, < 1367097443 36538 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he will 'understand' < 1367097449 294444 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: http://believableworlds.tumblr.com/ do you understand < 1367097461 455241 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this color better? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzo38/Userboxes/program_famicom < 1367097576 395348 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i understood from the 'get go' < 1367097581 45801 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: problem is < 1367097582 655742 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: um < 1367097598 264734 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the problem < 1367097609 255069 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell us mnoqy < 1367097626 757593 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tlel us < 1367097635 424860 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just um < 1367097653 674776 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spit it out mnoqy < 1367097656 59775 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok. we'll love and support you no matter what. we're your parents < 1367097679 154728 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: woha you're mnoqy's parents too??? < 1367097684 164460 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have so much in common < 1367097692 905008 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should get married < 1367097703 975278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok sure but you have to stop being a biologist < 1367097717 417856 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i went into.................. anthropology < 1367097723 235213 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1367097724 525284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess that's okay < 1367097732 575182 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can it be mathematical anthropology, does that exist, it has to < 1367097733 345364 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1367097735 275465 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neuroanthropology < 1367097737 807433 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :computational anthropology < 1367097753 874869 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theological anthropology < 1367097755 515468 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: also < 1367097755 814974 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there' actually a PLoS blog about neuroanthropology iirc < 1367097757 744688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: tell us the problem < 1367097798 35750 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The aim of CAIRS -- Computational and Informatic Anthropology -- is to contribute to anthropology and the fields that impinge on it by helping to develop on-line archives and field-study resources, provide new methods and means for investigating problems bearing on human populations, to promote the use of computers in the practice of anthropology, and to advise and provide information resources for the anthropology community worldwide and for < 1367097850 529419 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/abdesign.shtml oh yes < 1367098268 876128 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-203-147.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1367098579 635948 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.157.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1367099268 166937 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1367099331 245871 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1367100027 234723 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a tree structure where each node has a name. The names are not necessarily unique. The names also have a length. The nodes need to be colored red, yellow, and blue, in order to reduce the total cost of all the nodes. The cost shall be zero for red or blue nodes if their youngest ancestor of the same color has the same name, and equal to the length of their names otherwise. < 1367100034 391495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the algorithm to do this? < 1367100432 846493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the algorithm is a MAX-SAT solver ;) < 1367100436 287530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe there is a clever way as well < 1367100452 688809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the cost of a yellow node? < 1367100467 107065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The length of the name. < 1367100540 706857 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-22805.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1367100599 726981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i write code like this will people want to punch me: < 1367100600 27155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : sys.stdout.write('\rTesting %s done\x1B[K\n' % (name,)) < 1367100762 47479 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but I don't. < 1367100776 936676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if i write code that's like try { return something; } finally { some cleanup; } < 1367100815 918320 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the point of that? < 1367100904 928506 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: A true Pythonman would probably want to punch you for using the % operator. < 1367100917 438122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh because we're supposed to use .format() now? < 1367100919 725008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1367100929 330139 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you actually < 1367100934 908211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a thing people care about < 1367100941 467926 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe it is. < 1367100950 927469 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think the % operator in that way in Python is not really bad < 1367100961 327292 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe I have been told that % is very depurkkated by the Formatter format strings. < 1367100972 27580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay well i suggest kmc write it in haskell instead, imo < 1367100999 239721 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: say that 'something' is an expression that could throw an exception. i want to do cleanup as the function exits whether or not it's an exceptional exit < 1367101040 407338 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This method of string formatting is the new standard in Python 3, and should be preferred to the % formatting described in String Formatting Operations in new code." <- Python v2.7.4 documentation / Built-in Types. < 1367101040 656017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this alternative might be easier to understand at a glance: try { res = something; } finally { cleanup; }; return res; < 1367101044 107307 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: In that case it is OK, I guess. < 1367101056 257401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't like the extra statement and unnecessary extra variable < 1367101072 413834 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I would say try { return ... is OK, even if other people don't like it. < 1367101087 928163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think (since this is actually Python) the pythonic and also nicer option would be to make a context manager for this cleanup < 1367101143 221277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can't be bothered for my small case < 1367101151 610587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go has an interesting solution to this problem: http://golang.org/doc/articles/defer_panic_recover.html < 1367101175 479087 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1367101177 648213 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think try { return something; } finally { some cleanup; } is OK for such purpose. < 1367101211 917646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically there's syntax for pushing a statement onto a queue of things that will run whenever the current function exits < 1367101261 348283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go's exception handling is uh < 1367101263 997102 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idiosyncratic < 1367101267 357331 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1367101271 997685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't call this exception handling < 1367101274 97948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which I think I mean "bullshit" < 1367101281 711510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the 'defer' part by itself isn't < 1367101300 788436 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you guys think about Rust? < 1367101308 408784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds cool < 1367101318 23867 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more interesting than Go from a language nerd perspective < 1367101325 109866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know which one would ultimately be better for getting shit done < 1367101336 707624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is definitely more ambitious in terms of the tradeoff of performance and static safety < 1367101352 447629 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would be quite happy if rust replaced C overnight i think < 1367101364 129170 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust seems to be borrowing from a lot of different languages < 1367101375 977597 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all the reasons I have seen to not be 100% on board with it have roughly consisted of it being *too* conservative < 1367101385 127654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it uh... < 1367101388 41282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not totally baked yet < 1367101395 427786 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's totally unusable < 1367101396 29381 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a work in progress < 1367101399 677638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh < 1367101400 597504 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what isn't < 1367101405 967243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :replacing C overnight with something unusable seems poor < 1367101410 170739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you see < 1367101411 992592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that already happened < 1367101413 467574 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's called C < 1367101416 958278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lololololololololol < 1367101419 492314 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes obviously I meant a working version < 1367101429 118147 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if all the world's code was written in rust, rust would work < 1367101433 737760 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is at 0.6 right now < 1367101444 463946 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing it'll be good for general usage once it hits 1.0 < 1367101446 827715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: look real programmers use C and never ever make mistakes, if you ever make a mistake of any kind you are an idiot who should never be near a keyboard < 1367101450 489272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1367101465 367675 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is just bitter because he makes mistakes < 1367101466 527720 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike me < 1367101468 998895 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1367101474 247771 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in @ mistakes are impossible < 1367101481 279789 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There isn't a programmer that never made a mistake < 1367101483 478427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they're possible it just detects them < 1367101484 23534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw is @ so named because it comes before A in the alphabet? < 1367101485 397883 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mocks you < 1367101503 828769 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's a good reason to call something @ but have you heard my pedantic explanation of how @ is not actually @'s name yet < 1367101508 17852 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: In Polish it's called a monkey < 1367101534 539663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: because let me tell you < 1367101538 887634 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looooove delivering that explanation < 1367101547 528564 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ for king of europe < 1367101592 3438 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Finnish @ is sometimes called "cat's tail". Also sometimes something like "meow-meow". (But not often.) < 1367101606 228529 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think kmc wisely ran away < 1367101611 827956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no tell me < 1367101628 477564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i accidentally turned on my xbox with my foot < 1367101642 7691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1367101646 84589 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an emergency < 1367101653 998047 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It has a foot fetish?! < 1367101670 37774 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ok so i suck at naming things and like all things about @ am incessantly perfectionist about it < 1367101678 413231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: @ is actually an english-language macro that expands to whatever name i will give @ in the future < 1367101678 689160 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizie...................... < 1367101692 198420 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think you will agree that this is genius < 1367101697 887713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1367101707 886279 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: apparently < 1367101709 588333 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also whenever i do give it a name i'll get gregor to sed -i 's/@/thename/g' over the logs < 1367101716 447779 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i call it macro expansion < 1367101751 968733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good < 1367101871 537644 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget, what's your answer to things like < 1367101877 87691 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> reverse "@" < 1367101879 750093 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "@" < 1367101896 278128 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 1 "@" < 1367101897 999843 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "@" < 1367101908 671155 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that use of the macro is clearly quoted mnoqy < 1367101912 70108 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"'@' a very weird word" < 1367101944 319448 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`(hello ,@(elliott)) < 1367101944 584853 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text (reverse "@") < 1367101947 737713 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : @ < 1367101948 309713 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: (hello: not found < 1367101969 278135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: are you saying you've never seen lambdabot be wrong < 1367101970 448133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 < 1367101970 655128 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 < 1367101970 861839 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 < 1367101972 29919 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1367101972 317770 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : can't find file: L.hs < 1367101972 524524 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : can't find file: L.hs < 1367101974 248037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1367101977 158406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's wrong all the time < 1367101986 281666 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no there's no quoting < 1367101990 457692 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll even get expanded in email addresses < 1367101998 918064 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot's telling the truth!!it really can't find L.hs < 1367102005 408429 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not my fault people have been persistently misusing the @ codepoint for decades < 1367102012 779916 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too busy answering your DUMB USELESS '1' QERY < 1367102020 857648 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor lambdabot :'[[[ < 1367102056 438069 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have used something more obscure as a macro < 1367102091 768055 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfection shouldn't have to care about previous (and WRONG) usage, mnoqy. < 1367102092 493937 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or used something sensible like a "working name" < 1367102099 938990 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: are you suggesting @ is based around compromising my vision for the sake of others < 1367102107 971784 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you get it at all! < 1367102120 989064 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was called elliottOS at first but that's ugly and too long to type and also it's not really an OS anyway < 1367102128 688339 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also dumb. < 1367102137 8282 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott'os < 1367102381 678635 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was very briefly called lisp86 wasn't it < 1367102394 945516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1367102407 759484 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that might actually be worse < 1367102425 398329 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no that was like your thing < 1367102429 260013 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, as i recall it fell out of use very quickly < 1367102430 860065 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that i convinced you should be @ instead < 1367102436 478897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :embrace, extend, extinguish < 1367102446 429990 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, @ should be that language Chaitin made that's like lisp with apl syntax < 1367102469 148386 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think @'s language was going to basically be agda but better last time i thought about it < 1367102510 947996 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :frp was involved < 1367102528 468488 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather FRP with bells on and something else which made it better < 1367102557 396823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :frrrrrrrrp < 1367102651 837057 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rude < 1367102708 558942 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also something about quoting. it'd be the best, in summary < 1367102756 488471 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :good summary < 1367102800 735254 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear quoting is unhygenic < 1367102832 441400 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo make it b/c of i want the best < 1367102843 508755 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1367102885 258710 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does elliottcraft have a macro name < 1367103159 348512 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but ais523 calls his own thing elliottcraft < 1367103161 389441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's confusing enough < 1367103179 27441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that name < 1367103191 360731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yeah, elliottcraft is my language/game < 1367103199 478817 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1367103209 552745 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind-of not particularly specified < 1367103216 506280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have a spec lying around somewhere I can pastebin < 1367103228 128733 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember doing the modelling for the elliottcraft prototype < 1367103231 648946 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good tymes < 1367103233 837850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :under the name CUBE < 1367103257 151610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/RKMQ < 1367103266 152857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as always with ais523 work-in-progress specs, it may or may not make any sensee < 1367103267 643337 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sense < 1367103289 780466 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :z is up down eh < 1367103486 226126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Sometimes, dlls export functions with names which aren’t valid Python identifiers, like "??2@YAPAXI@Z"' < 1367103492 589654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great function name imo < 1367103531 829670 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[THE JOKE IS C++,] < 1367103537 688943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite likely < 1367103583 540287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i implemented the Miller–Rabin primality test in Python and I'm using ctypes to test it against OpenSSL < 1367103608 878746 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it probably makes more sense than grammartree :P < 1367103621 64731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1367103734 139005 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as I go in and try to make things more like real grammar < 1367103742 950072 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(grammar is hard, let's go shopping. for CUBES, presumably) < 1367103771 258650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"IEC958_SUBFRAME. Stays crunchy ... ... even in milk." (Google page summary, start of.) < 1367103846 659363 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was looking at what the ALSA format "IEC958_SUBFRAME_LE" might be. Perhaps it's a method of writing raw IEC958 frames out of the S/PDIF pipe.) < 1367104065 349832 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe fungot knows what IEC958_SUBFRAME_LE is? < 1367104065 867558 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i think that in response to the question of whether you want to set the palette, so if you show that macro transformations are useful. < 1367104079 373315 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe not < 1367104084 189085 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Is it what I think it is? < 1367104084 608781 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh you're talking about. ;p http://www.slengpung.com/ v3/ fnord < 1367104099 990322 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: No, that's not what I'm talking about. < 1367104100 321105 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i pime fnord 12. ( yes, there are some written in smalltalk: squeak. < 1367104110 166484 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: factory cube-factory cube interaction is left unspecified < 1367104114 710127 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Squeak indeed. < 1367104118 858596 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you have a hanging sentence at the end of the conveor cube section < 1367104126 240803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I noticed that hanging sentence rereading it < 1367104137 2831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :factory/factory interacts like mobile/mobile, anyway < 1367104140 535384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just push each other < 1367104161 859398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's the default < 1367104272 299180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :factory cube, factory cube, factory cube hates triangle cube < 1367104284 779042 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: goddammit < 1367104293 459225 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's stuck in my fucking head now < 1367104296 186726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's IEC958... oh it's S/PDIF? < 1367104299 260050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you're welcome < 1367104363 850064 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, just looking at this, there's too much randomness in action resolution < 1367104385 660810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really it should be entirely deterministic, to ease hashlife-style processing < 1367104415 391863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should put flood on < 1367104460 493742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, factory cubes seem to be indestructible < 1367104464 512197 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure that's a problem < 1367104476 552227 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been wondering if there's a way to dig an infinitely growing pit that you can just drop them down < 1367104579 950913 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1367105109 551080 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote retroactive < 1367105111 832776 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :590) I think the worst part of growing up is that it isn't retroactive. < 1367105131 849506 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that even mean < 1367105134 869521 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, it was me that said that < 1367105152 759367 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was surreal for a minute < 1367105173 959574 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, that past you continues to be a complete ass. < 1367105197 410413 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure past me continued on to be present me < 1367105208 974157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the past is a grotesque animal < 1367105218 169636 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in its eyes you see, how completely wrong you can be < 1367105239 230084 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the poetic version i guess < 1367105245 919984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The elephant is a growtusk animal. < 1367105271 367524 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst pun ever? < 1367105313 419808 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/002719ea5041eea5f32942c6371d29dd/tumblr_mlxin2L1b51rlkewbo1_1280.png < 1367105314 100171 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo possibly < 1367105341 370534 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :experience with beans < 1367105431 197298 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/6613166321d75d542cde3ed5852e2e85/tumblr_mlwz717Xf11rlkewbo1_1280.png this one's for shachaf < 1367105451 570047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are these from < 1367105458 321285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna see if any sites i made in middle school show up < 1367105481 481639 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oneterabyteofkilobyteage.tumblr.com/ < 1367105496 780033 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an outgrowth of that "you can download the entirety of geocities for some reason" thing < 1367105538 610591 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are these... real screenshots of Windows 95 < 1367105540 929174 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if any of them have actually good web design < 1367105553 320202 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: they made a diagram of how they do it < 1367105569 873115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think my shit was on angelfire < 1367105604 190066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anime has been one of the reasons the internet has grown so quickly in the recent years < 1367105606 61798 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://contemporary-home-computing.org/1tb/wp-content/uploads/screenshots-proxy.svg < 1367105610 250007 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: lemme save you through looking through the terabyte: no < 1367105618 753343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that supposed to have text < 1367105627 609978 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a fucking great diagram < 1367105629 782619 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://contemporary-home-computing.org/1tb/archives/3808 try this one < 1367105632 229863 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on surely someone had a sense of aesthetics < 1367105638 180169 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1367105660 400087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://contemporary-home-computing.org/1tb/wp-content/uploads/tumblr_mlfjf3xX5g1rlkewbo1_12805.png < 1367105684 93209 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1367105696 695177 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yeah but you can't make that work with tiled backgrounds and framesets anyway < 1367105709 635563 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1367105832 961942 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/df1e21c0c7c9e77649155518bf57eb20/tumblr_mlwo30gWm21rlkewbo1_1280.png this is approaching actual design < 1367105846 681559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's ugly but someone did put effort into it < 1367105860 120475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left To Loose < 1367105867 323123 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/f36246b3f5e43d2d46b9eaa452635bbe/tumblr_mlwb4ftQbc1rlkewbo1_1280.png hm this design is alright < 1367105909 260565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1367105955 389419 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"steve's intense web" page at Bike's link was so intense, it left me reeling. < 1367105963 50474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/faed6e672b8b88ef5f81e6d689e6a4a6/tumblr_mlvjccYHUq1rlkewbo1_1280.png < 1367106004 713033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i enjoy the mojibake but it might be better if they fixed it < 1367106027 618819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's what it'd hvae looked like irl < 1367106051 60203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably not if you spoke the language in question < 1367106052 280361 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only because you have some anglophone locale. < 1367106059 631609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least there would be a reasonable chance of it coming out ok < 1367106078 150334 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unmarked shift-jis would work great on a defaultly installed japanese windows 95, probably < 1367106086 471755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think if you're russian in this era you have your browser set to KOI8-R by default or something < 1367106094 110332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well so it's from the perspective of a western person browsing the web < 1367106096 594188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or have traded your computer for old shoes to eat < 1367106106 357438 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the OS is clearly not japanese < 1367106115 459412 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1367106120 310389 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :western person browsing SO MANY anime sites < 1367106120 865153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp just more anglocentric history I guess >_< < 1367106122 750377 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eurocentrism in our internet research < 1367106134 555657 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: acccurate portrait of our history < 1367106169 110615 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i mean if it installed a japanese os for the japanese pages that would be cool < 1367106181 395783 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think just fixing the mojibake and leaving the rest equal would make it better < 1367106194 542140 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i suppose it's automated, and the pages probably don't have their locales marked very well < 1367106205 211480 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's easy to detect char encoding in 2013 < 1367106245 95513 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/5e8db0be081fb264eaef4fdcececaa92/tumblr_mlvowfPpAA1rlkewbo1_1280.png this strikes me as very 'monqy style' < 1367106296 440455 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must choose < 1367106334 260655 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish real life could be more like oneterabyteofkilobyteage < 1367106344 270545 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo thatd be cool < 1367106398 540514 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that background makes me think http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/84062663/Emergency++I+High+Quality+PNG.png < 1367106409 541799 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good pic < 1367106415 390947 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that an album art < 1367106417 663645 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1367106417 870761 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the album good < 1367106419 490559 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1367106421 930530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why 'kilobyte age' < 1367106435 810543 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's very nontrivial to detect Shift-JIS in particular. < 1367106438 531176 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should listen to this album because it has good art < 1367106441 848524 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-logic- < 1367106457 370766 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the reissue had a less great cover :'( < 1367106486 210663 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/Displan-emergency.jpg apparently < 1367106515 291159 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i saw http://24.media.tumblr.com/128054f91cf826e316b13b71bdbe56fb/tumblr_mlvk9oXBOF1rlkewbo1_1280.png and tried to find the guy < 1367106521 782693 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-212-240.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which led me to the full page: http://www.reocities.com/collegepark/union/4138/ < 1367106529 752303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: "not as good" < 1367106534 500738 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ye < 1367106547 32729 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just because I signed up for Amazon instant prime, and plan on buying stuff through Amazon, doesn't mean I should have gone with Kindle instead of Nook a while ago, right? < 1367106569 26518 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi sgeo < 1367106826 633558 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1367106856 390855 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome cone < 1367106858 710952 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cone: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1367106859 390437 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome conehead < 1367106861 640653 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :conehead: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1367106885 830569 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks again? d: