00:03:39 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:05:08 -!- Bike_ has joined. 00:05:10 -!- augur has joined. 00:05:20 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 00:05:57 -!- john_metcalf has left. 00:18:59 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 00:27:06 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:35:56 -!- mnoqy has joined. 01:53:29 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:17:05 -!- augur has joined. 02:17:25 -!- TeruFSX has joined. 02:21:45 -!- augur_ has joined. 02:21:48 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 02:36:30 @tell ais523 is the "Disallow" action somehow preventing the "Block" action? 02:36:30 Consider it noted. 02:36:38 @tell ais523 maybe it's only meant to have the latter or something (see AbuseLog) 02:36:39 Consider it noted. 03:03:42 -!- sirdancealot has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 03:17:26 -!- sirdancealot has joined. 03:40:23 elliott: context 03:42:25 spam 03:56:18 fabrice bellard fan club 03:56:44 i forgot he did ffmpeg too, jeez 03:56:48 hey that sounds like a good club 03:56:59 MCALLISTER Heegan 03:57:40 hi shachaf 03:58:17 Yarrr. 03:58:31 shachaf: i should get a job, where should i work 03:58:57 Personally, I work at "becoming sane". 03:59:05 kmc: i might ask you the same question 03:59:18 You should work for each other. 03:59:18 one of your goals in life was never working at a company with more than ~10 people, right? 03:59:22 Cycle up that hierarchical graph 03:59:25 well, ok 03:59:32 shachaf: don't think so 03:59:43 I already worked at a place with 100 people that grew to like 250 while i was there 03:59:46 it wasn't the best tho... 03:59:55 gosh, what happens if you fail a life goal 03:59:59 kmc once worked at oracle* 04:00:01 *facts distorted 04:00:02 Was that the HFT place? 04:00:11 yeah 04:01:14 i don't know what's the best size for me 04:04:51 kmc: found a haskell company. i'll join solely to complain about how much haskell sucks. success guaranteed 04:04:56 lolol 04:05:32 so you don't like finance and you don't like web startups? 04:06:11 kmc if you keep laughing at me I might quit 04:06:16 pretty sure i've had enough of finance yes 04:06:23 don't know about web startups, hard to generalize from one experience 04:06:28 at this juncture may i offer my services as laugh-eater 04:06:38 hire me to be laughed at for you. satisfaction moderately guaranteed 04:22:21 kmc: maybe there are relevant jobs in SF 04:24:39 yeah 04:24:44 i think i would like to move to SF 04:24:49 but should find a job there first 04:32:54 -!- impomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 04:53:42 it's probably easier to pick the right place to live after getting a job anyways, even 04:54:44 kmc: have you considered a mobile social local startup instead of a web startup 04:55:29 ok maybe i´m nоt being helpful 04:55:37 mnoqy: did you work it out 04:56:10 huh? 04:56:19 is this about the () -> () -> () thing 04:56:25 ive gotten better at ignoring those 04:56:53 oh 04:57:06 you're not a very good addict............................ 04:57:45 monqy is my hero. 04:58:53 monqy is my hero 04:58:58 but all we have is mnoqy 04:58:58 bike is my hero 04:59:07 Fiora: hey i thought i was your hero!! 04:59:35 can i at least be mnoqy's hero 04:59:43 oerjan's hero 04:59:47 heroux's hero 04:59:52 `welcome heroux 04:59:55 heroux: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 05:00:07 `pastelogs heroux 05:00:14 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:00:54 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.26762 05:00:55 Fiora: That wasn't you, was it? 05:01:42 Bike: can i have more than one hero 05:01:57 Slut. 05:11:31 ? 05:12:07 The anonymous messages? 05:12:22 anonymous messages? 05:12:46 Which anonymous messages? 05:12:51 Is Bike a Russian spy? 05:13:49 The ones on my tumblr, and no. 05:14:08 oh. no 05:14:21 is it like a love confession or something? 05:14:34 ha? no. 05:14:52 it was me. i love you Bike 05:14:52 "Once upon my time, you were my hero. Now, even though I understand you less and less, my opinion hasn't changed much." 05:14:56 j/k fuck all bikes 05:14:56 an odd thing to receive. 05:15:00 elliott: fuck you 05:15:42 oh. definitely not me 05:15:51 Right. 05:15:54 @ship elliot/Bike 05:15:55 Maybe you meant: show slap 05:16:05 yes. 05:16:35 im glad i dont get weird messages like that (joke's) 05:16:40 is elliot identical to me except that they like bikes 05:16:46 lacks the extra bike-hating t 05:16:48 oh boy shipping 05:16:52 sorry >_< 05:16:54 @ship elliott/Bike 05:16:55 Maybe you meant: show slap 05:16:57 is that better 05:17:02 elliottttttttttt 05:17:06 i'm more of a fan of shipping & handling 05:17:08 if you know what i mean 05:17:08 *elliotttt 05:17:11 er 05:17:12 sometimes i wake up and my name has grown more consonants 05:17:13 elliottt 05:17:17 elliottcable 05:17:21 eliot 05:17:22 conal 05:17:24 eliott 05:17:36 hm 05:17:54 what else is an "elliott name" 05:18:02 monqy 05:18:07 yeah, i guess so 05:20:25 Bike: you have "google analytics" so you can probably find out some things about your secret admirer 05:20:29 Conax Elliott, the cable TV conditional-access guy. 05:21:00 I also have apathy. 05:21:41 I'm not sure how google analytics would help, though. 05:22:07 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 05:23:20 You can probably look up people who were at blah.tumblr.com/ask? 05:23:25 Unless they were "cautious". 05:24:02 i would ask Bike a question right now to foil him except i don't actually know what the url is, and also i block analytics. 05:24:09 Google can do that? 05:24:29 Can't it? 05:25:09 2spooky. 05:31:11 elliott: the url is http://bike.tumblr.com/ask 05:31:12 hth 05:31:58 http://fioraaeterna.tumblr.com/ask I have one tooo 05:34:11 I can't give both of you questions! I'd go bankrupt 05:34:25 -!- Bike_ has joined. 05:34:29 "How I met your tumblr" 05:34:44 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 05:35:39 Hey, you Internet people, you know these things; what's the difference between a blog and one of those "thumbers" or whatever. 05:36:25 i found the answer on wayback machine like 2 years ago but then i forgot it 05:36:34 Nothing of import. 05:36:43 Maybe I should've put that in one of those above-mentioned places, if they are some sort of answering machines. 05:37:00 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 05:37:17 Tumblelogs are blogs with less fuss and more stuff. Tumblr is your friendly and free tool for creating tumblelogs. 05:37:33 tumblr is just a blog host basically? 05:37:35 -tumblr circa 2007 05:37:57 with some extra features, like if you make an account, you can follow people (like an rss reader I guess?) 05:38:05 and like posts, and message people, and so on 05:38:10 it's like twitter but for pictures of cats 05:38:20 it's a little bit like livejournal, except more media-oriented? 05:38:24 Or pictures of cephalopods. 05:38:38 Tumblelogs are the easiest 05:38:38 way to express yourself. 05:38:38 Post anything. Tumblr makes it effortless to share text, photos, quotes, links, music, and videos, from your browser, phone, desktop, email, or wherever you happen to be. 05:38:39 Or pictures of haruspices. 05:38:41 Customize everything. Tweak everything from colors to your theme's HTML markup. Even use your own domain name. 05:38:44 Sign up and see why so many people love Tumblr. 05:38:49 Or pictures of haruspicy, yes 05:39:31 "Tumbleogs are the refreshingly simple new way to share anything you find, love, hate, or create." 05:39:56 Tumbellugs. 05:40:10 What's a tumblelog? 05:40:10 To make a simple analogy: If blogs are journals, tumblelogs are scrapbooks. 05:40:10 You can also look at tumblelogs as slightly more structured blogs that make it easier, faster, and more fun to post and share stuff you find or create. 05:40:13 You can find more information on Wikipedia. 05:40:38 Bike: http://slbkbs.org/sigh.txt 05:40:40 mnoqy you sellout! 05:40:51 I'm also still intrigued as to how eliot knew that one guy. (Except that the answer is probably something really boring, like "from some other Freenode channel".) 05:40:57 that's actually a pretty good description 05:41:00 sorry i have a thing for looking at sites on wayback 05:41:09 fizzie: i'll tell you...... if you op me 05:41:13 shachaf: bahaha, i should show feep that 05:41:15 one time i found a really cool picture on an old google site 05:41:38 shachaf: why are you espering, anyhow 05:41:40 um. I guess we went from sending asks to explaining what a blog is 05:41:47 I should have: guessed: what was coming. 05:41:50 whoa, espernet??? 05:42:09 didnt know anyone "did" that 05:42:35 um, I do 05:42:37 Bike: because all the cool people are on espernet i guess 05:42:47 a lot of my friends are there... 05:42:47 -!- Bike_ has joined. 05:42:59 shachaf: a common misconception, it's actually for ice giants 05:43:04 -!- Bike has quit (Disconnected by services). 05:43:07 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 05:43:17 fizzie: Who was "that one guy"? 05:43:21 Bike_: ice giants are p. cool 05:43:28 the joke is: temperature 05:43:32 Yes. 05:45:58 shachaf: The guy who came to my place at the university and said nasty, hurtful things about speech recognition, and also predictable (after the first part) things about opping people. 05:46:27 shachaf: why did you do that thing that you did 05:46:40 fizzie: Oh, you didn't know him? 05:46:59 mnoqy: well i was curious 05:47:03 mnoqy: should i "un do" that thing 05:47:08 I sorta-know him. Not terribly well. 05:47:12 possibly 05:47:46 bad timing if you wanted to see anything happen!! other than embarrassing me in front of ??nobody at the moment?? 05:48:13 if you want me to i'll leave 05:48:14 I think he's trying to woo a female colleague from our group, based purely on the fact that I hear them TALKING quite often. (And it doesn't sound like WORK STUFF to me! So QED.) 05:48:25 im unsure how to best handle this situation 05:48:34 fizzie: are you trying to woo anybody 05:48:57 mnoqy: did i put you in an uncomfortable situation :( 05:49:13 possibly 05:49:29 No. Well, unless, I don't know, maybe my wife counts, if it's some sort of a permanent process? I don't know. 05:49:49 Fiora: should fizzie woo someone 05:50:17 Like, when you stop "wooing", they leave? Is that how it works? 05:50:44 We certainly talk quite a bit on non-business matters, so by my own set criteria... 05:51:20 @wn woo 05:51:21 *** "woo" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" 05:51:22 woo 05:51:22 v 1: seek someone's favor; "China is wooing Russia" [syn: {woo}, 05:51:22 {court}] 05:51:22 2: make amorous advances towards; "John is courting Mary" [syn: 05:51:23 {woo}, {court}, {romance}, {solicit}] 05:51:28 No help there. 05:52:05 fizzie: if i woo you would your wife mind 05:53:02 Not unless I actually get woofied, I guess? It is a mystery. 05:53:31 knock knock 05:53:42 Woo's there? 05:53:49 woo 05:53:57 Woo-woo. 05:54:07 you mean woo-woom 05:54:18 Bazoom. 05:55:57 fizzie: imo, op me 05:56:54 That would be a decision, and doing one sets bad precedence. 05:56:56 -!- madbr has quit (Quit: Radiateur). 05:59:17 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 05:59:46 fizzie: consider that inaction is a decision too 05:59:58 Bike: Are you one of those people who changes nicks all the time? 06:01:08 Not so much anymore. 06:01:11 But yes. 06:01:31 That's a banning offense in some channels. 06:01:44 Bike: were you ever "Bicycle" 06:01:48 :o 06:01:54 elliott: No, that's stupid. 06:02:29 Oh, I was in January for a while, because of shachaf's foul influence. 06:03:16 Bike: it fits you! (re: stupid) 06:03:16 were you ever "Flamingo" 06:03:29 (because of my fowl influence) 06:03:31 elliott: well played sir 06:05:25 Were you ever "Recumbent"? (I have a strange fascination towards recumbent bicycles.) 06:05:40 (They are so wired.) 06:06:02 mnoqy: what's going on :( 06:06:08 shachaf: what do you mean 06:06:25 mnoqy: am i causing "a scene" 06:06:43 hm good question 06:07:34 fizzie: talking about not work things 06:07:38 ... I think bike is trying to woo me 06:07:40 bike are you trying to woo me 06:07:43 you're talking about not work things 06:08:07 Fiora really wants to be wood by Bike 06:08:15 I don't know what you do for work, so by the open world assumption you do everything for work, so I don't talk about non-work things with you. 06:08:26 but what if the wooer is........ the wooee 06:10:36 Bike: i'm not sure you should be doing that......... 06:10:46 Doing what. 06:11:44 you know what! 06:11:57 Tomorrow I'll go see _Voyage_ by Tom Stoppard. 06:12:08 Cool. 06:12:58 biiiike 06:13:02 "♥ ❥ 😍 😻❣" i have thrown the universe into chaos. 06:13:54 -!- nooodl^ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 06:14:04 shachaf: being wooed by bike would not be that bad 06:14:21 Bike: you heard the bot 06:14:23 get wooing! 06:15:07 Fiora: Mon chere, pepe, maginot line. 06:15:16 ??? 06:15:23 I'm wooing you. 06:16:15 this is america! we woo in english here! 06:16:49 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 06:16:55 fizzie: in: re: wooing: "I hope he's not right, or my girlfriend is going to be angry." 06:17:30 shachaf: so is this a "role play" thing 06:17:41 mnoqy: what 06:18:00 Fiora: Perhaps I should woo you. 06:18:03 Fiora: "Woo." 06:18:04 this whole wooing thing 06:18:04 There we go. 06:18:09 Consider thyself wooed. 06:18:09 like what's up with that all of a sudden 06:18:27 mnoqy: oh fizzie started that 06:18:32 ah 06:18:56 -!- c00kiemon5ter has left. 06:28:06 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 06:31:08 fizzie: did you woo your wife "back in the day" 06:31:12 and/or did your wife woo you 06:31:28 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: gotta go). 06:34:56 hi Bike 06:35:08 you know the puzzle about "8" shapes on a plane?? 06:36:03 No. 06:36:52 the puzzle is: how many "8" shapes (let's say that an 8 shape is two circles tangent to each other) can you fit on the real plane? 06:37:26 On. I thought you meant like a plane you go flying in. 06:37:28 Infinity? 06:38:02 But is it countable? 06:38:51 Bike: oh and they can't intersect 06:38:59 "kind of important to mention that" 06:39:02 Can you put one inside another? 06:39:19 Yes. 06:39:23 s/Y/y/ s/.$// 06:39:50 Probably not countable. 06:41:12 You say you can fit uncountably many non-intersecting 8s on a real plane? 06:42:53 Sure. 06:43:20 How? 06:44:14 Well, you can fit countably many 8s inside one another matryoshka-style, no? Then do that all over the plane. 06:45:20 That still sounds countable? 06:45:21 is this one of those conjectures OR independent of traditional axiom's 06:45:44 what is 06:46:09 thing with the 8s 06:46:12 oh i guess that would be countable huh 06:46:31 what's the conjecture i mean 06:46:39 there's an answer to the puzzle 06:46:53 ok 06:46:55 people know the answer iff they are cool 06:47:44 I ain't cool. 06:48:31 shachaf: I think it was mostly the latter. I mean, she did most of the work, if you know what I mean. (I don't know what that means.) 06:49:13 elliott: Well can he explain the GIGGLING? (I guess it might be just that he's a funny guy.) 06:54:48 shachaf: Well, given that each 8 shape can be of infinitisimal size, I'm thinking it's uncountable. Sadly I'm not sure how to go about a proof of that. 06:55:08 pikhq: No, each 8 has to be of a finite size. :-) 06:55:42 "Arbitrarily close to 0" is a finite size! :P 07:01:51 I think I've heard that you can only put a countable amount of nonintersecting discs on a plane, at least. 07:02:09 spooky 07:02:40 It has something to do with Q^2 being "dense". 07:03:42 fizzie: You can easily do uncountably many nonintersecting circles, though. 07:03:55 E.g. for every real number make a circle with that radius with center (0,0) 07:04:01 (Every positive real.) 07:04:19 Oh, right, your "8" was just two circles. 07:05:05 Doesn't quite work with the two circles though. I mean, there may be another way, but that particular schema doesn't. 07:05:47 Let's just say that two circles where the centers have the same x coordinate is still "8 enough". (Then it should work.) 07:06:08 pikhq: Right. 07:06:21 fizzie: No, they'll intersect. 07:06:48 shachaf: Not if the sizes are from the open interval (0, 1), into which I'm sure you can map all of R. 07:07:09 ? 07:07:14 How do you make it not intersect? 07:07:19 Maybe I should draw a picture? 07:07:42 Gopher it. 07:10:25 Like, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130425-Drawing1.png 07:11:11 (I did say I modified your definition of 8 to something quite a bit less 8-like.) 07:11:39 Oh, no, they have to touch. 07:11:45 * elliott only sees one 8 there 07:11:46 23:36 the puzzle is: how many "8" shapes (let's say that an 8 shape is two circles tangent to each other) can you fit on the real plane? 07:11:46 fizzie: Sneaky. :P 07:11:56 shachaf: [10:05:46] Let's just say that two circles where the centers have the same x coordinate is still "8 enough". (Then it should work.) 07:12:02 Yeah, the tangentness makes this a lot harder. 07:12:37 fizzie: Well, I assumed you were doing that without breaking the rules. 07:12:51 I don't see how you can do that without breaking the rules. 07:13:05 fizzie: Two circles of different size tangent to each other. 07:13:10 So prove you can't do it. 07:13:31 pikhq: Oh, also, one circle of the 8 can't be inside the other circle. 07:13:44 (I'm not sure whether that makes a difference?) 07:16:00 Hmm. This can be rephrased with "how many tangent circles can you tile the real plane with", I think. 07:17:35 I mean, I don't see how you can do "two circles where the centers have the same x coordinate is also an 8" without breaking the rules by definition; I don't think *that* needs a proof. 07:17:39 (Not that I see how you'd do the original thing either.) 07:18:37 -!- ThatOtherPerson has quit (Quit: Leaving). 07:18:53 fizzie: The outermost circles in your picture have that property? 07:19:21 Yeah, it can definitely just be an additional restriction. 07:22:05 shachaf: OKAY, if you want to be like that. But it really should have written differently if it was an additional constraint; now it's just saying what else is an 8. 07:22:43 fizzie: I thought you were saying: You can do it with 8s (as defined previously) that also have this additional property! 07:28:45 If you could fit a disc inside any 8 that you could guarantee is not inside any other 8 (say, by some argumentation of what 8s look like), you could reduce it to the disc thing. 07:29:51 -!- nooga has joined. 07:31:12 -!- Bike has quit (Quit: leaving). 07:31:28 (I broke down, and went and looked up a clever answer that also uses Q^2.) 07:34:39 fizzie: I feel a great disturbance in the Gregor voice force. 07:34:48 it seems that he needs to also be opped temporarily to maintain universal balance. 07:48:24 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 08:23:36 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 08:42:25 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 09:10:45 -!- carado has quit (Quit: Leaving). 09:10:46 -!- carado_ has joined. 09:21:32 fizzie: do YOU like optimising PNGs??? 09:28:20 i like pngs 09:58:59 -!- ais523_ has joined. 10:02:12 @messages? 10:02:12 Sorry, no messages today. 10:06:28 ais523_: I sent a message 10:06:31 but to the nick you'd expect 10:06:37 oh right 10:06:39 -!- ais523_ has changed nick to ais523. 10:06:46 -!- ais523 has changed nick to ais523_. 10:07:09 elliott: in response to that message, I'd say it's worth a try, at least 10:13:31 I forget what I said 10:14:19 19:36 @tell ais523 is the "Disallow" action somehow preventing the "Block" action? 10:14:22 19:36 @tell ais523 maybe it's only meant to have the latter or something (see AbuseLog) 10:15:29 ah 10:15:41 you get to change it; I'm too terrified of abusefilter 10:16:00 OTOH, maybe it's best if they just get silently blocked for all eternity rather than spamming recent changes 10:16:10 (with blocks) 10:16:25 they /do/ only seem to try a finite number of times 10:16:55 we don't have an autoconfirm timeout 10:17:16 so there's no real difference between blocking them and forcing them to create a new account, or them just trying on their existing account 10:17:40 that said, I'm not sure what an abusefilter block looks like 10:17:44 it might not show up in recent changes at all 10:18:54 ideally, instead of blocking it'd delete their account to clean up the goddamn user list :P 10:19:20 it seems like disabling all the old captchas has stopped spam registrations entirely for now, anyway 10:19:32 yeah, they must have got a human to compile answers to the captchas 10:19:36 and then just set their bots on it 10:19:55 yes 10:19:59 question is whether they care enough to do it again 10:20:33 if they do, we'll have to get smarter, since it's hard to come up with good plain constant question/answer captchas that are easy for humans to solve 10:20:41 as in, humans who don't necessarily know much about esolangs 10:20:52 since I don't really believe not knowing brainfuck should be a barrier to entry or whatever 10:23:23 elliott: the way that clc.intercal.org.uk does it is to ask people to evaluate a random INTERCAL expression, and gives a link to a page that contains the answer 10:23:36 the documentation is actually dynamic, it uses the most recently set CAPTCHA as its example 10:23:50 obviously this is trivially automatable around, just nobody has tried yet 10:25:31 ais523_: another thing is how much of a burden it is to answer 10:25:35 remember that every anonymous edit has to go through this 10:25:45 and we'd like to encourage anonymous edits 10:25:51 (as opposed to no edits at all) 10:26:42 indeed 10:26:52 the CLC-INTERCAL thing isn't a burden because following a link and copying a number isn't a burden 10:28:18 hmm, says the guy who never clicks links 10:28:39 our captchas already involve link-clicking, anyway :) 10:31:28 Good ol' shachafbot. 10:32:38 hi Jafet 10:33:28 Jafetbot: solve for n: e ^ (-n * (n+1) / (2*d)) = 0.5 10:35:58 I will not be unterbot. 10:53:44 Jafet: solve for n: 1 - e ^ (-n * (n+1) / (2*d)) = 0.5 10:59:41 Wolfram: solve for n: 1 - e ^ (-n * (n+1) / (2*d)) = 0.5. -> http://sprunge.us/hWBO 11:00:25 I like "math" 11:00:49 If I type "mathematica", I think it will try to start up a graphical extravaganca. 11:04:50 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 11:19:50 -!- Nisstyre has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 11:23:23 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 11:24:30 -!- DH____ has joined. 11:24:31 -!- tswett_ has joined. 11:25:01 -!- Gracenotes_ has joined. 11:26:56 -!- comex` has joined. 11:29:00 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 11:29:17 -!- Lymia has quit (*.net *.split). 11:29:17 -!- Gracenotes has quit (*.net *.split). 11:29:18 -!- Cryovat has quit (*.net *.split). 11:29:18 -!- tswett has quit (*.net *.split). 11:29:18 -!- comex has quit (*.net *.split). 11:30:41 -!- DH____ has quit (Quit: Bye). 11:31:00 -!- Lymia has joined. 11:31:00 -!- Lymia has quit (Changing host). 11:31:00 -!- Lymia has joined. 11:31:10 -!- Cryovat has joined. 11:31:17 -!- carado has joined. 11:33:44 -!- carado_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 11:42:57 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 11:51:48 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 12:16:07 -!- ais523_ has quit (Quit: Page closed). 12:25:41 proof irrelevance is the worst thing ever. :( 12:26:41 -!- bengt_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 12:36:10 Proof Erasure could be a good band name 12:38:42 A metal band might want to go for Chains of Judgement instead. (Cut Rule is probably too emo.) 12:38:54 Prof. Erasure, a distinguished mathematician. 12:44:17 -!- bengt has joined. 13:11:12 My workstation... splonked. I can't figure out a better word. It hung up as far as keyboard/screen are concerned, so I ssh'd in and killed gnome-session; now it's in framebuffer console, where pressing enter echoes out "^\", and releasing it echoes a square. 13:11:13 -!- oerjan has joined. 13:11:30 In fact, releasing any key makes a square. 13:11:43 But the space bar inserts "9"s. 13:12:40 1, 2 and 4 result in ^B, ^C and ^E, respectively. I guess it's in some sort of very uncooked mode. 13:13:33 salmonella mode 13:14:06 Aren't these things supposed to have a thing where I can briefly press the power button to initiate a controlled shutdown? 13:15:18 you can always try ghc -e launchMissiles 13:16:09 Heh, the power button also echoes [square]^[square] when pressed. 13:16:42 oerjan: hey :) 13:16:56 g'day elliott 13:17:39 oerjan: :1:1: Not in scope: `launchMissiles' 13:17:43 oerjan: I take it there's something wrong with my GHC install. 13:17:47 ^style youtube 13:17:54 fuck 13:17:59 fizzie: or something very right. 13:18:02 fizzie, fix fungot you piece of shit 13:18:43 As soon as that computer boots; it's too annoying with a phone. 13:18:51 itt we determine how much insulting it takes to get fizzie to actually do something oppy 13:19:04 fizzie, fix fungot you swede 13:19:33 getting there 13:19:44 fizzie: op me and i'll fix fungot 13:20:00 Oh, fixing fungot is "oppy"? 13:20:14 oppy gangnam style 13:20:20 fizzie: it can be if you collaborate! 13:20:42 I try to fix it, but it's not FIXATING. 13:20:53 > fix fungot 13:20:55 Not in scope: `fungot' 13:21:43 > let fungot = fix in fix fungot 13:21:44 Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: a0 = a0 -> a0 13:22:16 That's not a good fix 13:22:17 -!- fungot has joined. 13:25:36 -!- Frooxius has joined. 13:26:02 imo: op Gregor 13:26:10 that way he can ensure he's voiced at all times 13:27:58 Phantom_Hoover: 13:28:14 fizzie: I feel a great disturbance in the Gregor voice force. it seems that he needs to also be opped temporarily to maintain universal balance. 13:28:28 see? if I am opped you can rely on me for sound Gregor mode policies, even before you realise their need. 13:28:43 i vote elliott, then i vote Gregor 13:39:32 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 13:40:16 On that topic, http://sprunge.us/LNJX 13:43:22 fizzie: so in other words, you should op me so that I can be the shadowy figure behind the figurehead rule of Gregor. 13:43:25 * oerjan thinks that was from h2g2 13:43:38 it is 13:43:39 indeed 13:46:28 On that note, should I go and play substitute teacher? The machine learning course lecturer is sick, and there's a lecture tomorrow. 13:47:07 fizzie: well it'd certainly be a step up from your speech recognition work 13:47:24 I don't know about that, it's about approximate inference. 13:58:15 "Approximate Inference -- Consistency Methods -- Pretend that p is actually an instance of a distribution in a tractable family (eg a tree), and run the algorithm for the tractable family, but with parameters set from p. Cross your fingers and hope for the best." 13:58:20 Nice slides. 13:58:44 Esp. calling it "Consistency Methods" is a nice touch, it sounds all proper and impressive. 14:00:06 * elliott shakes head 14:01:24 inconsistent naming 14:06:42 -!- ais523 has joined. 14:14:30 `addquote sometimes i wake up and my name has grown more consonants 14:14:37 1037) sometimes i wake up and my name has grown more consonants 14:16:35 i know how you feel 14:19:05 -!- oklopol has joined. 14:22:07 -!- oklofok has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 14:52:26 -!- john_metcalf has joined. 14:55:22 -!- boily has joined. 15:00:24 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 15:08:16 -!- Taneb has joined. 15:08:46 `olist #Not entirely sure if this is new 15:08:48 olist: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly 15:09:22 -!- Taneb has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:13:40 note to self: sleep-deprived Coq never goes well. 15:17:11 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 15:18:22 -!- comex` has changed nick to comex. 15:18:38 I have this sudden desire to write a renderer 15:20:59 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Coffee time). 15:26:35 -!- Taneb has joined. 15:26:54 -!- abumirqaan has joined. 15:29:11 -!- bengt has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 15:29:53 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 15:29:54 -!- bengt has joined. 15:34:24 A HTML renderer? A 3D ray-thingamabob? A something else altogether? 15:35:42 Meat renderer 15:36:22 3d renderer 15:36:34 maybe a raytracer 15:36:54 -!- aloril has joined. 15:39:48 -!- bengt has quit (Disconnected by services). 15:40:23 -!- bengt_ has joined. 15:45:45 -!- conehead has joined. 15:51:21 -!- ThatOtherPerson has quit (Quit: Leaving). 15:52:26 -!- Lymia has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 15:55:08 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 16:00:21 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 16:00:21 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:00:42 -!- DH____ has joined. 16:05:08 -!- DH____ has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 16:18:17 -!- Lymia has joined. 16:29:02 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:29:31 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 16:34:52 -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 16:55:52 -!- Taneb has joined. 17:00:24 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 17:07:23 Answer a question someone posted on Facebook 17:07:27 He says "Who are you?" back. 17:12:56 -!- hagb4rd has joined. 17:23:19 -!- ydbkakghlglaeiln has joined. 17:23:19 -!- ydbkakghlglaeiln has left. 17:23:44 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 17:25:24 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 17:25:44 why does phil plait need so many websites 17:29:13 Who is Phil Plait? 17:29:33 an astronomer who writes about astronomy on the internet 17:29:38 -!- jlusbhtabmlojomx has joined. 17:29:41 also in real life i guess 17:30:54 -!- jlusbhtabmlojomx has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:31:31 ThatOtherPerson: good idea, raytracers are fun to hack on 17:32:56 meanwhile: fuck, none of my torrents are downloading 17:33:13 :D 17:33:36 Wait the internet isn't real life? 17:35:15 -!- FreeFull has joined. 17:38:39 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 17:38:44 guys this is important 17:38:50 how will i watch game of thrones now 17:39:05 i'm down to the iplayer and 4od 17:39:17 or actually paying people money 17:40:30 Seeing as neither iPlayer nor 4od have Game of Thrones 17:40:41 Paying people money seems like the best option 17:40:50 I suggest starting by paying me money 17:40:59 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 17:41:13 well for got i'd have to pay for sky atlantic 17:41:22 a) i live in halls, i can't do that 17:41:28 Or buy the DVDs? 17:41:35 But then you don't get the new episodes 17:41:42 Which presumably you are up to 17:41:42 i need to stay UP TO DATE 17:41:50 Could you stream them online somewhere? 17:42:45 i have a suspicion that this is the work of it services 17:42:51 so that will probably not work 17:44:13 Could you torrent on a different port? 17:46:30 Or ask someone to torrent them for you and mail them to you on a USB 17:47:01 -!- Phantom___Hoover has joined. 17:47:13 help 17:47:22 Are the IT folk after you 17:47:31 If they are, run. Never stop running. 17:47:43 no, i just don't know how ports work 17:47:47 pick a number, Taneb 17:47:51 36742 17:49:03 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 17:49:05 "status unknown" 17:50:29 set it to pick a random port, no luck 17:53:31 -!- tswett_ has changed nick to tswett. 17:54:03 -!- nooga_ has joined. 17:56:24 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 17:56:30 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 17:56:37 -!- Phantom___Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 17:56:39 OH GOD THEY'RE OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW 17:56:50 WHO THE IT PEOPLE? 17:57:26 Phantom__Hoover: good luck 17:57:29 yes 17:57:39 Remember what I taught you 17:57:46 i'm going to try and take some of them with me at least 17:58:56 Phantom__Hoover: shall I start being lawful good again? or would that not help? 17:59:06 that would be the opposite of helping 17:59:36 ais523: we must all be chaotic good and save Phantom__Hoover from the authorities 17:59:47 Catch the next train to Coventry 17:59:52 y 18:00:21 Because #esoteric sticks together 18:00:27 Like velcro 18:00:43 i vote taneb for op 18:03:06 let's hack into the universe and teleport the IT people away from Phantom__Hoover 18:03:51 ThatOtherPerson: go for it 18:04:00 -!- Phantom___Hoover has joined. 18:04:05 so much blood 18:05:55 They have blood? I would have thought that they would have blood 18:06:12 it's in black and white you moron 18:06:39 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 18:08:28 how is that even possible 18:08:55 it's for artistic effect 18:10:06 since when has reality bent itself for artistic effect? 18:12:19 truth is beauty, beauty truth, etc. 18:14:22 Huh. I wonder if that is exploitable? 18:18:24 -!- Phantom___Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 18:20:57 this conversation is great in a client that filters colors 18:21:09 also, if "truth" and "beauty" aren't names for sorts of quarks yet, they should be 18:22:31 Gregor: the logs aren't in color. Why aren't the logs in color? 18:23:11 New quarks to have media spin 18:24:21 -!- Phantom___Hoover has joined. 18:24:34 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com). 18:24:44 Phantom___Hoover: did you escape? 18:24:55 no 18:25:17 ... did they capture you? 18:25:23 no 18:25:39 no? 18:25:47 np 18:39:30 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 18:39:41 Hi 18:45:12 Hi 18:45:36 ho 18:46:38 what did you just call me bitch 18:49:13 a dwarf 18:50:25 Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to work we go! 18:50:26 Oh, okay 18:54:34 -!- samebchase has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 18:55:38 -!- samebchase has joined. 19:06:12 -!- Phantom___Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 19:10:28 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 19:12:17 -!- Lymia has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:29:15 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 19:29:55 -!- copumpkin has joined. 19:40:16 -!- carado has joined. 19:53:06 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 20:23:02 -!- Phantom___Hoover has joined. 20:23:02 -!- Phantom___Hoover has changed nick to Phantom_Hoover. 20:23:07 helo 20:23:24 EHLO 20:23:37 kmc: that isn't a valid response to helo 20:24:00 true 20:24:40 250 Hello mail.esolang.org, I am glad to meet you 20:24:56 OK computer 20:27:20 -!- Bike has joined. 20:29:11 hike 20:29:55 Yo. 20:31:30 http://25.media.tumblr.com/932a7112a7c4db18add6f6e13dbd71c4/tumblr_mlsms516kW1qbsziao1_500.gif 20:33:27 That's... photoshopped, right? 20:34:21 I dunno, Netflix had some silly categories for April Fool's. 20:34:41 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 20:35:06 ah 20:46:32 -!- carado has quit (Quit: Leaving). 20:46:37 -!- carado_ has joined. 20:53:11 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 20:57:48 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 21:02:49 -!- heroux has joined. 21:04:01 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 21:09:28 -!- tromp has joined. 21:10:47 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:10:51 -!- quintopi1 has joined. 21:15:32 -!- tromp__ has quit (*.net *.split). 21:15:32 -!- Lumpio- has quit (*.net *.split). 21:15:32 -!- iamcal_ has quit (*.net *.split). 21:15:32 -!- quintopia has quit (*.net *.split). 21:21:42 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 21:22:03 -!- Lumpio- has joined. 21:27:33 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 21:32:06 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 21:35:18 kmc: I was reading some logs and it sounds like kmc-of-a-few-years-ago was a lot less cynical. 21:35:26 that'll happen 21:35:34 any particular way, though? 21:36:12 Not exactly... 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They had spent 11 days in space and had three more to go. They were doing little more than drifting around the Earth and the incentive of the rendezvous was over. Borman read Roughing It by Mark Twain and Lovell Drums along the Mohawk by Walter D. Edmonds. 22:47:22 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 22:47:32 i mean the apollo missions only lasted a week 22:47:45 and afaict there was much more capsule space than on gemini 22:49:58 you can look at space i guess 22:50:01 that must be fun 22:50:18 They read books. 22:50:33 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 22:51:15 -!- Phantom___Hoover has joined. 22:51:16 fuck 22:51:19 this connection 22:51:36 "By this time the novelty of spaceflight had worn off" heh 22:53:53 -!- sivoais has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 22:54:31 -!- mnoqy has joined. 22:54:50 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 22:56:01 -!- sivoais has joined. 22:56:47 i don't know who i am any more 22:57:04 `? phantom_____hoover 22:57:06 phantom_____hoover? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 23:01:18 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 23:02:13 -!- Bike_ has joined. 23:02:21 -!- Bike has quit (Disconnected by services). 23:02:26 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 23:03:33 -!- sivoais has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 23:06:12 -!- sivoais has joined. 23:11:18 -!- Lymia has joined. 23:11:18 -!- Lymia has quit (Changing host). 23:11:18 -!- Lymia has joined. 23:13:52 -!- augur has joined. 23:14:06 -!- sivoais has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 23:15:23 -!- sivoais has joined. 23:15:45 -!- iamcal_ has joined. 23:33:16 -!- Zerker has joined. 23:42:54 -!- Phantom___Hoover has quit (Quit: Leaving). 23:50:46 -!- Zerker_ has joined. 23:53:22 -!- Zerker has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 23:53:22 -!- Zerker_ has changed nick to Zerker.