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00:08:19 <ion> “I also admire him for not playing the racism card.” WAT
00:09:08 <Bike> orientals. wow.
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00:26:49 <FreeFull> I think he's trying to be Linus Torvalds, except Linux actually knows what he's talking about
00:26:52 <FreeFull> Linus*
00:30:23 <kmc> itt: linus torvalds is a shit role model
00:33:11 <FreeFull> Trying to imitate his attitude without having the credentials is bound to end up bad
00:33:50 <oerjan> @tell ais523 You seem to have missed User:EzraFrier
00:33:51 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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00:34:08 <kmc> you shouldn't emulate his attitude regardless
00:34:09 <kmc> but yes
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00:38:30 <FreeFull> https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre/+bug/885027/comments/90
00:40:22 <Bike> what the hell is the GNAA
00:40:27 <Bike> oh. oh.
00:40:41 <kmc> FreeFull: being right about technical matters is really no excuse for being an asshole
00:40:58 <oerjan> Bike: gnus against acronyms
00:41:18 <kmc> and Torvalds takes it a step further, he takes pride in offending people and thinks that if you're offended that's good because you deserve to be offended
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01:52:30 * Sgeo throws a FactoryBean at the channel
01:53:05 <Bike> AGH FUCK MY EYE
01:53:17 <Gregor> Bike: Wow, you're into some extreme stuff.
01:53:50 <Bike> oh haha that was just an expression, i meant to fuck my dessicated elbow, on the ground there
01:59:08 <monqy> Sgeo: ??
01:59:50 <Sgeo> FactoryBean. A bean that acts as a factory.
02:00:01 <monqy> ????????
02:00:34 <Bike> get with the program, monqy.
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02:00:52 <monqy> do you know what he's talking about, bike?
02:00:53 <Sgeo> It's a Factory that has one specific way of retrieving a created object from it, and can have other properties, so can be configured in XML and you don't point at the factory directly when you want an instance from it
02:01:09 <Bike> no but i don't really care so i'm just rolling with it
02:01:21 <monqy> why would you throw that at the channel
02:02:53 <shachaf> hi monqy
02:02:59 <monqy> hi shachaf
02:03:08 <shachaf> did you get my numerous @tells and @asks
02:03:16 <monqy> yeah
02:03:21 <monqy> what was that last one about
02:03:37 <shachaf> i don't remember
02:03:49 <shachaf> i usually forget as soon as i send them (or even before!!!!??)
02:03:53 <monqy> something about friendship monqys, lots of !!!s
02:03:56 <shachaf> oh
02:04:00 <shachaf> `? monqy
02:04:02 <HackEgo> The friendship monqy is an ancient Chinese mystery; ask itidus21 for details.
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02:04:19 <monqy> that doesn't explain anything…
02:04:29 <shachaf> i know it only raises more questions
02:04:35 <shachaf> like: what is the friendship monqy
02:04:39 <monqy> yes
02:04:45 <shachaf> maybe you can answer
02:04:50 <shachaf> since itidus21 is gone
02:05:05 <monqy> i sure don't know
02:05:28 <oerjan> i am pretty sure Journey to the West is involved somehow.
02:05:29 <shachaf> oh
02:05:42 <oerjan> hth.
02:09:07 <doesthiswork> I was impressed that dragons 3.5 times as many balls as I do
02:09:34 <monqy> it does??
02:09:46 <doesthiswork> *has
02:09:53 <doesthiswork> *have
02:10:07 <doesthiswork> it's hard to get my corrections correct
02:15:17 <Sgeo> My job might literally save someone's life.
02:18:32 <doesthiswork> you make no-skid  tape for bathtubs?
02:19:32 <monqy> there's more than one way to save life's, doesthiswork
02:19:46 <elliott> don't you work at an isp
02:19:55 <monqy> for example you could install the no-skid tape
02:20:04 <monqy> a very important step the in life saving procedure
02:20:09 <Sgeo> Because of this job, I'm eating more, which is pushing me over 110 lbs, which means I can donate blood, which I plan to.
02:20:20 <shachaf> monqy: monqy how do you save life's monqy
02:20:29 <monqy> shachaf: eating a lot
02:20:35 <shachaf> good thinking
02:20:47 <shachaf> if i eat a lot will i save life ' s
02:20:53 <monqy> probably
02:21:10 <monqy> you could also save lives by eating less
02:21:17 <monqy> many way s to save lives
02:21:28 <shachaf> oh no
02:21:35 <shachaf> what about by eating exactly as much as im eating
02:21:38 <shachaf> "but on purpose"
02:21:50 <monqy> hm
02:21:54 <monqy> i'd have to think about that!
02:22:33 <shachaf> think monqy think
02:23:07 <shachaf> ···processing···
02:23:08 <monqy> i've come to the conclusion that you'll probably save ~the same # of lives regardless of how much you eat
02:23:17 <shachaf> oh no
02:23:39 <shachaf> is it because i have no free will
02:23:44 <monqy> yeah
02:23:51 <monqy> you're better off with the no-skid tape
02:24:00 <doesthiswork> think of the gain in life if you were a spermdonar
02:24:24 <doesthiswork> much more efficient use of fluid than blood donation
02:25:02 <monqy> what if you donate both fluids
02:25:16 <shachaf> monqy: well they're interchangeable arent they..
02:25:41 <monqy> i don't think so, shachaf
02:34:34 <shachaf> monqy: can i have more monqy wisdom
02:35:08 <monqy> no
02:35:40 <shachaf> thanks that was a good one
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02:45:33 <Sgeo> monqy: can i have less monqy wisdom
02:45:49 <monqy> are you sure that's a good idea
02:46:14 <Sgeo> do i need more monqy wisdom to decide if less monqy wisdom is a good idea
02:46:22 <shachaf> its a bad idea..................................................................................
02:46:27 <monqy> thanks shachaf
02:46:42 <shachaf> ywonqy
02:46:54 <shachaf> (i just called you wonqy btw)
02:47:01 <monqy> it happens
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02:47:35 <Sgeo> gah not capitalizing I hurts
02:47:57 <shachaf> Sgeo: why does you hurts
02:48:05 <shachaf> not capitalizing is not a crime
02:48:16 <monqy> were you trying out 'monqyspeak'
02:48:23 <monqy> (what is that???)
02:48:38 <shachaf> (idont  know but it sounds good)
02:48:45 <shachaf> (can i be a monqyspeak)
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02:49:06 <monqy> well i've heard someone say it before..i'll have to check my logs
02:49:12 <monqy> !logs
02:49:20 <shachaf> ciao
02:49:23 <shachaf> !list
02:49:32 <shachaf> hey monqy guess where i am
02:49:49 <Sgeo> you are in the universe hth
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02:50:32 <shachaf> universe more like coolniverse
02:50:47 <shachaf> the joke is monqy++
02:51:09 <oerjan> shachaf: is capitalizing a capital crime?
02:52:18 <shachaf> oerjan oerjan oerjan bama'agal nachoerjan
02:52:36 <shachaf> oerjan: ive been pronouncing your nick "as if it was dutch sorry about that"
02:53:38 <oerjan> horrijble
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03:21:29 <quintopia> shachaf: fix your subjunctive mood plox
03:22:04 <shachaf> quintopia: no
03:22:09 <shachaf> i reject "if it were"
03:22:22 <shachaf> Ahem.
03:22:25 <shachaf> s/no/No./
03:22:27 <quintopia> oh okay
03:22:28 <quintopia> but
03:22:29 <shachaf> s/i/I/ s/$/./
03:22:34 <quintopia> it sounds better you know
03:22:37 <quintopia> so
03:22:39 <shachaf> No, it sounds worse.
03:22:43 <quintopia> why do you like sounding worse
03:22:52 <shachaf> I like sounding better.
03:22:59 <shachaf> checkmate
03:23:29 <quintopia> then use the correct subjunctive and you can sound better like me and the rest of the high-prestige dialecters
03:23:58 <shachaf> @karma+ quintopia.prestige
03:23:59 <lambdabot> quintopia.prestige's karma raised to 1.
03:36:09 <zzo38> I added something in RogueVM that was missing: Now there is a file for enumeration to make up names of the possible values that a configuration parameter can have. There is also the specification for a "death message" in the high-score list.
03:37:01 <zzo38> Is this better now?
03:38:22 <zzo38> Is it possible for a good serious philosophical text to be written consisting entirely of questions?
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03:51:27 <elliott> kmc: "I finally said it, my startup failed. Fuck. I felt like I was coming out of the closet when I first stated it aloud to my co-founder."
03:51:31 <elliott> kmc: thought u would appreciate
03:51:46 <Fiora> ~_~
03:51:51 <kmc> haha
03:51:55 <kmc> o well
03:53:18 <Bike> what the hell
03:53:32 <Bike> like beyond the general what-ness, if the startup failed how would the cofounder not know
03:54:02 <Fiora> admitting something very risky didn't work -- totally the same as coming out about ones' sexuality
03:54:38 <Bike> but i mean in this terrible, horrible analogy, isn't the cofounder like some homogendered person you've been going out with
03:55:11 <Bike> aren't they all in the closet. the closet must encapsulate the founders right
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04:19:34 <monqy> `addquote <itidus21> :D :D oh man.. i wonder if they ever made chess variants based off of animes
04:19:38 <HackEgo> 1021) <itidus21> :D :D oh man.. i wonder if they ever made chess variants based off of animes
04:19:45 <monqy> for some reason this quote has vanished from the qdb
04:19:50 <monqy> now it's back
04:20:20 <kmc> i miss itidus21
04:20:34 <kmc> sort of
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05:13:11 <zzo38> Make up some such chess variant if you want. Actually I made "Kira Chess" which is based on "Death Note".
05:13:20 <zzo38> There may be others too; I don't know.
05:15:07 <oerjan> zzo38: i thought you would have
05:16:12 <Bike> zzo38: so do you not care about the twoducks thing?
05:16:53 <zzo38> Bike: Actually I don't know the answer. Post on the talk page.
05:17:55 <zzo38> I would like to see the discussion, so put it in the talk page.
05:17:59 <oerjan> the talk page already contains a TC-ness discussion
05:18:07 <Bike> I'll see what I can d- oh, huh.
05:18:08 <zzo38> You can discuss in here too if you have something to say, of course.
05:18:30 <Bike> Well it seems TC to me, he disagreed, based on Aaronson's work on computation in CTCs.
05:19:11 <zzo38> It may be interesting. Can you please be more specific?
05:20:06 <elliott> what is the twoducks thing
05:21:15 <Bike> Friend and I got into an argument about whether it was computable.
05:21:40 <Bike> I didn't really understand what he meant, which is why I thought you'd be better off talking to hi, if you cared.
05:21:46 <Bike> I'll show him the talk page and see what happens.
05:21:48 <elliott> i'm pretty sure it's not computbale
05:21:49 <elliott> computable
05:28:32 <zzo38> Can all statements of number theory be made into programs which halt if and only if the statement is true? What is the required computation class to do this, if it is possible at all?
05:36:06 <oerjan> zzo38: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post%27s_theorem looks relevant
05:36:38 <oerjan> and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarski-Kuratowski_algorithm
05:38:04 <zzo38> OK, I will look
05:40:41 <oerjan> but to summarize, whenever you switch between universal and existential quantifiers, you need to add another level of halting oracle
05:40:48 <oerjan> iiuc
05:41:10 <zzo38> That is what I thought, actually.
05:42:14 <zzo38> I thought it might be something like that, so know I can know better that it is something like that.
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09:25:09 <zzo38> Now I managed to make a Z-machine assembler working.
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10:00:48 <Sgeo> `slist
10:00:56 <HackEgo> slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot
10:01:08 <Taneb> Potato.
10:03:39 <elliott> Taneb: wow i was just thinking "nice sarcasm, taneb's growing up"
10:03:41 <elliott> but you ruined it
10:03:54 <Taneb> elliott, sarcasm makes me uncomfortable
10:04:22 <Taneb> I have two many sarcastic frienemies
10:05:10 <elliott> only two?
10:05:26 <Taneb> No, two many
10:05:33 <Taneb> Imagine many sarcastic frienemies
10:05:39 <Taneb> I have precisely twice that amount
10:07:21 <fizzie> I guess you mean "two[U+2062 INVISIBLE TIMES]many".
10:09:43 <Taneb> Yeah, my invisible times key is broken
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10:10:56 <ThatOtherPerson> My invisible times key is invisible :/
10:11:09 <ThatOtherPerson> I've never been able to figure out where it is
10:11:16 <Taneb> I don't think I like Ghoul_
10:11:37 * ThatOtherPerson reads logs to gain much needed context
10:13:03 <Taneb> ThatOtherPerson, #haskell
10:13:07 <ThatOtherPerson> ah
10:14:35 <elliott> well this is a waste of time
10:14:50 <elliott> good thing mauke is more persistent than I am
10:15:14 <fizzie> I've seen that name somewhere.
10:15:28 <fizzie> Oh, #perl.
10:15:54 <fizzie> (Is it legal to be a Perl and a Haskell guy at the same time?)
10:15:56 <elliott> also #esoteric
10:16:09 <elliott> for a while
10:16:20 <elliott> i think he might be both a #haskell op and a #perl op too
10:16:33 <elliott> double impossible
10:17:00 <Taneb> (INVISIBLE TIMES actually exists? huh.)
10:19:38 <fizzie> Along with INVISIBLE SEPARATOR and INVISIBLE PLUS, and the still-invisible-but-not-explicitly-so FUNCTION APPLICATION.
10:21:04 <ThatOtherPerson> Not to mention the zero-width space
10:21:20 <fizzie> Perhaps they dared not to name it INVISIBLE FUNCTION APPLICATION, fearing that people would interpret it as (INVISIBLE FUNCTION) APPLICATION instead of INVISIBLE (FUNCTION APPLICATION).
10:21:36 <ThatOtherPerson> ... unicode is kinda weird
10:22:19 <fizzie> "May you live in INVISIBLE TIMES." --Old Chinese proverb. (It can look confusing when written with the proper Unicode.)
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10:27:00 <Taneb> May you live in ⁢
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10:27:15 <Taneb> > length "⁢"
10:27:15 <lambdabot>   mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character)
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11:05:14 <impomatic> I've had 4 parcels go missing in a month.  From 4 different consignees.  1 in 1430 chance of each going missing.  There's more chance of winning the lottery twice in a week.
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12:30:25 <quintopia> i agree
12:30:50 <Taneb> Wow, I didn't think I was capable of that
12:31:28 <quintopia> i wasnt talking to you
12:31:54 <ThatOtherPerson> Perhaps Taneb wasn't talking to you either
12:32:12 <ThatOtherPerson> Considering that you both said something at the same time
12:32:17 <Taneb> Indeed, the most likely scenario is that we were having completely separate conversations
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12:32:53 <ThatOtherPerson> The only way that Taneb could have been responding to you would be if Taneb was a bot
12:34:09 <ThatOtherPerson> Taneb: by the way, if you are a bot, I believe that you have passed the Turing test
12:34:15 <Taneb> Sweet!
12:34:30 <Taneb> You hear that, fungot? I'm better than you!
12:34:31 <fungot> Taneb: other than the ones than ran on vacuum tubes, from the outside)
12:35:10 <Taneb> But I am not a bot.
12:35:21 <Taneb> I was referring to the fact that I think I have a girlfriend now
12:36:11 <ThatOtherPerson> I don't think bots normally have girlfriends
12:36:21 <ThatOtherPerson> Do you have a girlfriend, fungot?
12:36:21 <fungot> ThatOtherPerson: there's two.
12:36:24 <ThatOtherPerson> ...
12:36:29 <Taneb> fungot, what a lad.
12:36:29 <fungot> Taneb: the previous ones. like fnord is an interesting problem
12:36:40 <Taneb> `? quoteformat
12:36:42 <ThatOtherPerson> Apparently I was wrong.
12:36:43 <HackEgo> quoteformat? ¯\(°_o)/¯
12:37:09 <Taneb> `addquote <ThatOtherPerson> Do you have a girlfriend, fungot?   <fungot> ThatOtherPerson: there's two.
12:37:09 <fungot> Taneb: the stuff ' between' built-in module systems, is a _string_ of things, not including srfi 1.
12:37:13 <HackEgo> 1022) <ThatOtherPerson> Do you have a girlfriend, fungot?   <fungot> ThatOtherPerson: there's two.
12:37:36 <ThatOtherPerson> :D
12:37:55 <Taneb> `quote no not markov
12:37:56 <HackEgo> 574) <fungot> Ngevd:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov
12:38:05 <elliott> Taneb: wow one too many spaces!!!
12:38:07 <Taneb> fungot's lucidness comes and goes
12:38:07 <fungot> Taneb: pastebin that is not of interest to the mud, so people who like c, perl, and php apps right now
12:38:14 <Taneb> elliott, I always get it wrong :(
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13:45:14 <ThatOtherPerson> ⁢
13:45:44 <Taneb> ...quite
13:45:54 <Taneb> > length "⁢"
13:45:55 <lambdabot>   mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character)
13:46:09 <ThatOtherPerson> Taneb: I think that's invisible times
13:46:10 <Taneb> ~eval length "⁢"
13:46:11 <kmc> ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓
13:46:13 <metasepia> Error (1): 
13:46:36 <boily> ~eval length ""
13:46:38 <metasepia> 0
13:47:12 <Taneb> boily, those quotes aren't empty
13:47:19 <boily> oh.
13:47:32 <boily> try again, mu-eval had to be loaded into RAM.
13:47:55 <Taneb> ~eval length "⁢"
13:47:56 <metasepia> Error (1): <hint>:1:9:
13:47:56 <metasepia>     lexical error in string/character literal at character '\8290'
13:48:00 <ThatOtherPerson> hello⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢  there
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13:48:25 <ThatOtherPerson> ^ try selecting that
13:48:38 <ThatOtherPerson> heh, my client has quite a problem with it
13:48:45 <Taneb> ~eval "hello⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢⁢  there" == "hello  there"
13:48:45 <metasepia> Error (1): <hint>:1:7:
13:48:46 <metasepia>     lexical error in string/character literal at character '\8290'
13:49:51 <boily> ~eval showHex 8290 ""
13:49:51 <metasepia> Error (1): Not in scope: `showHex'
13:50:36 <boily> ~eval showHex 8290 ""
13:50:42 <metasepia> "2062"
13:50:47 <boily> ⁢
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13:52:25 <boily> ~eval length "hello\8290there"
13:52:26 <metasepia> 11
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14:02:28 <Taneb> Is it bad that I know Owen Wilson best for acting in a terrible movie that is also fictional?
14:04:01 <ThatOtherPerson> Which movie is that?
14:04:09 <ThatOtherPerson> Most movies that I know of are fictional.
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14:05:46 <Taneb> ThatOtherPerson, Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff: The Movie
14:05:57 <ThatOtherPerson> :D
14:06:09 <Taneb> Starring Owen Wilson as Hella Jeff and Ben Stiller as Sweet Bro
14:06:10 <ThatOtherPerson> Ah, that's more fictional then most movies
14:07:23 <ThatOtherPerson> It is also terrible.
14:07:33 <ThatOtherPerson> I don't think there is any movie that is more terrible.
14:07:42 <ThatOtherPerson> I don't think it would be possible.
14:08:24 <Taneb> ...he also played Lightning McQueen in Cars
14:10:25 <ThatOtherPerson> I just had an excellent idea for a movie!
14:10:47 <ThatOtherPerson> It would be a movie about making the movie... erm, the movie which is itself
14:10:57 <Taneb> Sounds a bit like Marble Hornets
14:11:00 <elliott> RECURSION MAN 420
14:11:01 <Taneb> Well
14:11:18 <Taneb> It sounds like what Marble Hornets would have been if it wasn't a horror story
14:11:34 <ThatOtherPerson> It would be the closest thing to a quine that a movie can be!
14:12:20 <Taneb> You could make a movie where the video is a quine in Piet and the soundtrack is a quine in I think Fugue
14:12:54 <Taneb> Phantom_Hoover, I have bad news
14:13:19 <ThatOtherPerson> Hm, someone should extend Piet so that it can run movie files
14:13:30 <Taneb> It can run animated gifs, ish
14:13:37 <ThatOtherPerson> So it would be more or less three dimensional
14:14:09 <Taneb> You'd need to define the size of the three-dimensional voxels
14:14:20 <Taneb> Seeing as time is a different "thing" to pixel size
14:14:48 <ThatOtherPerson> I guess a frame would be equivalent to the size of a pixel
14:15:07 <Taneb> If it's something like a .GIF, frames could have different lengths
14:15:17 <ThatOtherPerson> huh, I guess someone could try making Befunge three dimensional as well
14:15:26 <Taneb> Been done
14:15:36 <ThatOtherPerson> except for the part where it is extremely difficult to type in 3d
14:15:51 <Phantom_Hoover> Taneb, what's the bad news
14:15:51 <elliott> funge-98 already specifies 3-dimensional funge
14:15:59 <Taneb> Phantom_Hoover, "Noodle Soup"
14:16:18 <Phantom_Hoover> holy mary mother of god
14:16:20 <Phantom_Hoover> so soon...
14:16:30 <ThatOtherPerson> ?
14:16:32 <Phantom_Hoover> i'll... i'll start the protocol
14:16:54 <Taneb> ThatOtherPerson, http://esolangs.org/wiki/Noodle_Soup
14:16:57 <Phantom_Hoover> elliott, now executing contingency MARPLE
14:17:02 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: hi
14:17:06 <Taneb> Ooh, this is new
14:17:06 <Phantom_Hoover> i... oh
14:17:12 <Phantom_Hoover> ABORT MARPLE
14:17:33 <Phantom_Hoover> Taneb you have to be clearer with these things
14:17:41 <elliott> nooodl soup
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14:18:05 <ThatOtherPerson> Taneb: ah, that's what I thought all programming languages looked like when I was six
14:18:49 <Taneb> ThatOtherPerson, I remember typing in a terminal in a computer in my garage when I was three
14:19:06 <Taneb> So I thought all computer programs had to be white text on a black background
14:19:17 <ThatOtherPerson> heh
14:19:58 <ThatOtherPerson> The first time I used the Command Prompt in Windows was when I was ten
14:20:05 <ThatOtherPerson> It really amazed me for some reason
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14:20:59 <ThatOtherPerson> And if I ever use a command line at school people look over my shoulder and ask me, in wonder, what I am hacking
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14:49:38 <hagb4rd> when i was young, program code was like white text on blue screen (which was a significant improvement to that green on black monochrome era).. but we peeked and poked it just the way we wanted to
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14:50:35 <hagb4rd> but green on black is coming back again
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14:51:01 <boily> hagb4rd: green on black is retro and hip.
14:51:32 <boily> the only time I suffered through white on blue was with word perfect on 5¼ floppies.
14:52:08 <hagb4rd> yes, i like that writer addon for chrome..do you know it?
14:52:38 <kmc> http://hackertyper.net/
14:52:45 <hagb4rd> it even has that typewriter sounds <3
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14:54:21 <boily> kmc: L0L
14:54:42 <kmc> is that a leet LOL
14:55:05 <hagb4rd> http://writer.bighugelabs.com/?chrome=1
14:55:35 <hagb4rd> the colors are cool.. but the font sucks
14:55:44 <hagb4rd> @hackertyper
14:55:44 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
14:56:04 <hagb4rd> but all in all that's it
14:56:06 <ThatOtherPerson> @lisp
14:56:06 <lambdabot> http://code.haskell.org/lambdabot/COMMANDS
14:56:36 <kmc> @yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw
14:56:38 <lambdabot> "\"#$%&'()*+,\""
14:56:48 <Taneb> @tuple "hello"
14:56:50 <lambdabot> [Char]
14:56:57 <kmc> @yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw
14:56:57 <lambdabot> Exception: <<loop>>
14:57:38 <hagb4rd> @yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw
14:57:39 <lambdabot> "\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\"
14:58:13 <boily> @yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw
14:58:13 <lambdabot> "\"#$%&'()*+,\""
14:58:30 <kmc> > iterate show ""
14:58:32 <lambdabot>   ["","\"\"","\"\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\...
14:58:57 <kmc> > map (map length . group) $ iterate show ""
14:58:59 <lambdabot>   [[],[2],[1,1,1,1,2],[1,1,1,3,1,3,1,1,2],[1,1,1,3,1,7,1,7,1,3,1,1,2],[1,1,1,...
14:59:01 <boily> ~eval iterate show ""
14:59:02 <metasepia> ["","\"\"","\"\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
14:59:04 <mroman_> > iterate (iterate show)
14:59:06 <lambdabot>   Couldn't match type `GHC.Base.String' with `GHC.Types.Char'
14:59:12 <ThatOtherPerson> wattattattattat
14:59:20 <mroman_> > iterate (fix error)
14:59:22 <lambdabot>   Couldn't match expected type `a0 -> a0'
14:59:22 <lambdabot>              with actual type `[GHC...
14:59:30 <mroman_> > fix iterate
14:59:31 <lambdabot>   Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: a0 = [a0]
14:59:41 <mroman_> oh come on. be cool.
15:00:34 <boily> ~yi
15:00:34 <metasepia> Your divination: "Field" to "Field"
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15:12:26 <mroman_> > fix (undefined)
15:12:27 <lambdabot>   *Exception: Prelude.undefined
15:12:46 <kmc> > map group $ iterate show ""
15:12:47 <lambdabot>   [[],["\"\""],["\"","\\","\"","\\","\"\""],["\"","\\","\"","\\\\\\","\"","\\...
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15:13:55 <kmc> > map (map text . group) $ iterate show ""
15:13:56 <lambdabot>   [[],[""],[",\,",\,""],[",\,",\\\,",\\\,",\,""],[",\,",\\\,",\\\\\\\,",\\\\\...
15:25:21 <Taneb> `quote ThatOtherPerson
15:25:23 <HackEgo> 1022) <ThatOtherPerson> Do you have a girlfriend, fungot?   <fungot> ThatOtherPerson: there's two.
15:25:30 <kmc> bahahaha
15:25:44 <kmc> fungot: ^5
15:25:45 <fungot> kmc: it's only the win32 directory. ( about perl arrays) i think i associate it with pretentiousness and lack of active development. while a certain level of code maturity before throwing a language into the mix
15:28:39 <boily> pretty sane philosophy.
15:29:36 <kmc> fungot: do your girlfriends know each other? are they cool with it? do they also have sexytimes together?
15:29:36 <fungot> kmc: it was very effective, but its not working for me either. i would always use when unless over a single branch cond... the name is passed as argument 0
15:29:49 <kmc> fungot: sorry to hear it's not working for you :/
15:29:50 <fungot> kmc: it also doesn't fully explain fnord.... tell her i'm your cousin!
15:29:55 <kmc> fungot: will do
15:29:55 <fungot> kmc: i was half-joking.
15:30:13 <Taneb> kmc, fungot's lucidness is worrying
15:30:13 <fungot> Taneb: being flexible data structures, because you can't free in python, you'll like it
15:30:17 <boily> kmc and fungot are related?
15:30:18 <fungot> boily: so about half real dumb way ( and doing 250 iterations) :) y z i think it deserves a mention, of course
15:34:40 <kmc> we're related within 250 iterations I guess
15:34:55 <kmc> i think i'm related to everyone alive today within 250 iterations?
15:36:27 <kmc> hm not quite
15:37:22 <boily> I think everyone is at least 99% isomorphic to anybody else.
15:38:21 <kmc> looks like the most recent common ancestor of all living humans was like 2,000 - 4,000 years ago
15:38:50 <kmc> which is probably just a bit more than 250 generations
15:39:11 <elliott> `quote unborn sister
15:39:12 <boily> with 30 year generations, it's around approximatively about 300 generations.
15:39:13 <HackEgo> 32) <oklopol> i'm my dad's unborn sister
15:39:28 <kmc> historically, generations are probably a lot shorter
15:39:31 <Taneb> I can imagine kmc and Phantom_Hoover being relatively closely related
15:39:45 <elliott> is that because they're both grumpy
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15:40:04 <boily> I'm currently reading “Time Enough for Love”. the prospect of long-lived humans makes for very strange genealogical mutant loopy trees.
15:40:36 <Taneb> elliott, it's because I seem to remember kmc having a scottish-y/irish-y surname, and Phantom_Hoover is scottish-y/irish-y
15:40:45 <Taneb> LOGIC
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15:41:09 <kmc> yeah i'm a McAllister
15:41:24 <kmc> I think I have recent-ish British ancestors
15:41:32 <boily> mine are irish.
15:41:33 <kmc> haven't much looked into it though
15:42:13 <Taneb> My mum's side mostly comes from the anglo-scottish borders and also County Durham
15:42:20 <kmc> my first name is irish / gaelic / celtic / whatever, but my parents mostly just picked it because it sounds cool
15:42:29 <kmc> they both had super common names growing up
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15:42:59 <Taneb> My first name's Hebrew, as is my brother's, as is my mum's, but as far as I know I have no connections to Israel
15:43:32 <Taneb> Or Judaism
15:44:21 <kmc> ok
15:44:25 <kmc> how did you end up with these names?
15:44:54 <Taneb> My mum's name is an old family name, she was named after her aunt
15:45:05 <Taneb> My name was chosen because my parents didn't know any Nathans
15:45:18 <Taneb> Then they started seeing Nathans all over the place
15:45:32 <Taneb> And my brother's name they thought suited him perfectly
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15:48:32 <ThatOtherPerson> My name is Hebrew as well
15:48:35 <ThatOtherPerson> I believe
15:48:54 <kmc> hmm, TIL that chloroplasts have their own DNA and are thought to be descended from bacteria that colonized other cells, similar to mitochondria
15:48:55 <ThatOtherPerson> Many names in the States come from Hebrew
15:49:06 <Taneb> ThatOtherPerson, it's David, right?
15:49:09 <ThatOtherPerson> yep
15:49:14 <Taneb> Definitely Hebrew
15:49:33 <Taneb> A lot of names in Europe come from Hebrew
15:49:35 <kmc> ah, I don't think of that as a "Hebrew name", even though it obviously is
15:49:38 <ThatOtherPerson> kmc: yeah, I remember mitochondria and chloroplasts having many things in common
15:49:40 <kmc> just because it's common
15:49:49 <kmc> and something that lots of christians pick as well as jews
15:50:00 <Taneb> Sean I think is Hebrew
15:50:16 <kmc> imo it's not a hebrew name unless you spell it using hebrew letters, right shachaf
15:50:22 <ThatOtherPerson> Which probably has something to do with Christianity having come from the same roots as Judaism
15:50:46 <ThatOtherPerson> Taneb: coincidentally, Sean is my middle name
15:50:59 <Taneb> My middle name's not Hebrew at all
15:51:07 <ThatOtherPerson> What is it?
15:51:18 <Taneb> "George"
15:51:24 <Taneb> Greek, via Latin
15:52:40 <ThatOtherPerson> In Arabic my name is داوود‎
15:53:25 <ThatOtherPerson> Daoud, transliterated
15:53:58 <Taneb> and my surname's Norse via Dutch
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16:20:33 <kmc> huh that's actually supposed to be written as 5 discrete letters?
16:20:42 <kmc> i thought my terminal was fucking it up, but seems that way
16:21:56 <elliott> two of them are ?s in diamonds for me
16:21:58 <elliott> i blame mosh
16:22:01 <Phantom_Hoover> <kmc> my first name is irish / gaelic / celtic / whatever, but my parents mostly just picked it because it sounds cool
16:22:04 <Phantom_Hoover> you too huh
16:22:24 <Phantom_Hoover> my parents actually went and asked some relative who knew irish what the stupidest possible spelling was
16:22:50 <elliott> what's your first name again
16:22:57 <elliott> it's the one that isn't ahdahdnhmdahdnamnaín
16:23:03 <elliott> mdhanhwrnwhervnhwercmn?
16:23:18 <Phantom_Hoover> yes, that one
16:23:25 <elliott> how is it pronounced
16:23:42 <Taneb> It's something common with some white noise tacked on the end
16:23:45 <Taneb> Adamfwheuigha eyghvbearyugeryuafbgvs
16:24:44 <kmc> llanfairpwllgwyngyll
16:25:05 <kmc> short for llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
16:25:12 <Taneb> kmc, that's welsh
16:25:23 <Phantom_Hoover> its pronounced https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y_rm2i1YtE&t=1m14s
16:26:09 <Taneb> Phantom_Hoover, ...
16:28:35 <kmc> yep
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16:31:02 <oklofok> was that the joke
16:35:32 <ThatOtherPerson> I am the joke.
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16:35:42 <Taneb> I am the eggman
16:35:56 <elliott> i am the robotnik
16:36:28 <Phantom_Hoover> i'm the scatman
16:36:35 <Taneb> goo goo g'joob
16:37:41 <Phantom_Hoover> so apparently there is now a character named after me in one of them video computer games
16:37:50 <Phantom_Hoover> and the fuckers didn't even pronounce it right
16:38:29 <elliott> evil mastermind mc cool
16:38:44 <Bike> pantsom hover
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16:40:20 <Taneb> "I am the walrus" would work relatively well as a screamo song
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16:41:37 <Taneb> Sadly I do not have a screamo band.
16:41:45 <Taneb> And I am no Oli Sykes
16:42:04 <Taneb> (who's actually metalcore...)
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16:42:50 <Fiora> kmc: huh, they think these too apparently are in that category of "organelles that were originally bacteria"
16:42:53 <Fiora> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peroxisome
16:42:56 <Fiora> and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycosome
16:43:37 <kmc> neat
16:46:07 <Fiora> evolution during the precambrian era must have been all kinds of nutty.  like, with all the bacteria just kind of doing anything and everything
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16:47:29 <Phantom_Hoover> evolution was so much better in the precambrian when organisms were willing to take risks and be inventive
16:47:40 <Phantom_Hoover> now we just get the same old eukaryote crap churned out year after year
16:48:18 <Taneb> It also seems that on land, there are an awful, awful lot of insects
16:48:41 <Fiora> Phantom_Hoover: it's all sex's fault
16:48:49 <Fiora> sexual reproduction made everything so ~boring~
16:49:01 <Phantom_Hoover> yeah, it's all anything cares about these days
16:49:11 <Koen_> we should find every eukaryote on the planet and substitute a rock for their core
16:49:13 <Fiora> to bring back the good times, we need to get rid of sex.
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16:49:24 <Koen_> isn't everything sex's fault
16:49:35 <Taneb> (is Koen_ suggesting we brickbrain the planet)
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16:49:49 <Koen_> oh right, a brick
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16:50:06 <Phantom_Hoover> bricknucleusing, Taneb
16:50:07 <Taneb> Koen_, learn Haskell
16:50:11 <Phantom_Hoover> it's a very different procedure
16:50:32 <Taneb> Phantom_Hoover, I shall defer to your expertise
16:50:37 <Koen_> Taneb, you wish
16:50:40 <Bike> Fiora: not big on red queen, are you
16:50:49 <Phantom_Hoover> basically it's like IVF but with a brick
16:53:18 <Fiora> I was being silly -_-
16:53:22 <Fiora> but you have a point xD
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16:54:04 <Taneb> I was reading today that sexual reproduction helped defeat parasites
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16:59:51 <Koen_> I heard differently but ok
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17:03:24 <doesthiswork> even prokaryotes have a mechanism analogous to sex, because it allows you to get rid of really sucky genes and get better ones
17:03:53 <Taneb> Alas, I am genetically predisposed against asexual production
17:04:29 <Gregor> Racist.
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17:04:34 <Phantom_Hoover> you just have to learn to mitose
17:05:13 <doesthiswork> y chromosomes are basically asexual because they never recombine
17:05:24 <Fiora> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacterial_conjugation   ah
17:05:32 <Fiora> so that's how that works!
17:05:47 <pikhq_> doesthiswork: Almost never.
17:05:47 <doesthiswork> which is why there are all kinds of fun x-linking things like color blindness and male pattern baldness
17:05:58 <pikhq_> doesthiswork: In some cases they end up recombining with the X chromosome.
17:06:11 <Fiora> doesn't that generate a whole mess of disorders?
17:06:15 <doesthiswork> pikhq_:  You're right, there are almost no absolute in biology
17:06:18 <pikhq_> This ends up doing fun things like putting sex-determining region Y on the X. Giving you an XX male.
17:06:23 <pikhq_> Fiora: *Can*.
17:06:26 <pikhq_> Not necessarily.
17:06:32 <Fiora> right, like that one
17:06:42 <pikhq_> The Y chromosome is basically a bunch of junk and a single gene that triggers being male.
17:06:46 <Fiora> or XY female where the sex determining part of Y goes on vacation
17:06:55 * pikhq_ nods
17:07:13 <ThatOtherPersonY> Vacation is nice.
17:07:28 <Fiora> sex chromosomes are really interesting, I was reading about all the kinds of disorders that go along with them the other day
17:07:46 <Fiora> XXY, X, XXXY, XXYY
17:07:56 <Bike_> band names
17:08:03 * Fiora has a neice with 'X' (Turner Syndrome) 
17:08:07 <Fiora> *niece
17:08:14 <doesthiswork> in fruit flies they count how many x chromosome duplicates there are compared to the autosomal chromosome duplicates, if it's 1:1 then it's a girl if it's 1:2 then it's a boy
17:08:29 <Fiora> o_O
17:08:37 <doesthiswork> so you can get super female fruit flies by adding more x chromosomes
17:08:38 <Bike_> oh, i thought the ones where you only got one sex chromosomes generally killed you
17:08:52 <Fiora> Bike_: single X is an exception, I think?
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17:09:01 <pikhq_> Bike_: The Y chromosome is nearly useless.
17:09:02 <Fiora> the results vary, it can be pretty bad or not very bad
17:09:31 <pikhq_> It's literally a single gene. Meaning that it *might* not be a big deal.
17:09:35 <Fiora> (she's lucky, other than stunted growth (which is somewhat vixable with hormones) she's pretty much largely normal.)
17:09:43 <Bike_> hm, Turner doesn't cause cognitive impairment
17:09:59 <Phantom_Hoover> "Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder or ADHD (problems with concentration, memory, attention with hyperactivity seen mostly in childhood and adolescence)
17:09:59 <Phantom_Hoover> Nonverbal Learning Disability (problems with math, social skills and spatial relations)" -- WP
17:10:36 <Bike_> hello
17:11:01 <ThatOtherPersonY> Hi!
17:11:02 <Fiora> I think they say with hormones she'll end up being around 4'11" or so
17:11:09 <Phantom_Hoover> i think you can get up to 5 X chromosomes
17:11:21 <Fiora> ... oh right!  I think I also knew someone in college who had Turner mosaicism, which is even weirder
17:11:36 <Bike_> part of your body only has one X, the rest is XX?
17:11:42 <Fiora> I think so, yeah
17:11:46 <Phantom_Hoover> yeah
17:12:03 <Fiora> she wasn't diagnosed because mosaicness is trickier, I think
17:12:13 <Fiora> well, wasn't diagnosed early
17:12:25 <doesthiswork> x inactivation is interesting
17:13:01 <doesthiswork> it's how we get tortishell cats
17:14:58 <ThatOtherPersonY> *tortoiseshell
17:15:26 <Phantom_Hoover> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squitten
17:16:15 <ThatOtherPersonY> :(
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17:18:06 <Phantom_Hoover> so wait, are ginger cats called something else outside the uk
17:18:17 <Gregor> Kung Pao
17:18:55 <Phantom_Hoover> racist
17:19:27 <ThatOtherPersonY> Phantom_Hoover: not that I know of
17:21:43 <kmc> sexual reproduction in fungi is even weirder
17:21:59 <ThatOtherPersonY> fungi are alien
17:22:03 <ThatOtherPersonY> are we back to that again?
17:22:55 <boily> ~duck fungus
17:22:56 <metasepia> A fungus is a member of a large group of eukaryotic organisms that includes microorganisms such as yeasts and molds, as well as the more familiar mushrooms.
17:23:00 <ThatOtherPersonY> I still have trauma from learning about plant reproduction in biology, though
17:23:15 <ThatOtherPersonY> It's all so much more complicated than I imagined
17:24:10 <boily> I once hit a classmate over the head with a biology schoolbook. considering the excessive weight of these manuals, I think I hurt him.
17:24:48 <Phantom_Hoover> i remember biology at school
17:24:54 <Fiora> plant reproduction is really cool
17:25:47 <Phantom_Hoover> they had to split the class in two because so many people took it in their last year
17:25:59 <Phantom_Hoover> meanwhile there were 6 who took physics
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17:30:16 <Fiora> I took both, am I a heretic :<
17:30:45 <Bike_> did you know in olden times hermaphroditic plants were called "perfect"
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17:31:28 <Phantom_Hoover> Fiora, well I took both too, but I think I'm the only one who did.
17:31:30 <ThatOtherPersonY> Fiora: I took both too, and also I also took chemistry
17:31:40 <Jafet> Today the term is reserved for humans.
17:31:44 <Jafet> @google biophysics
17:31:45 <lambdabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biophysics
17:31:46 <lambdabot> Title: Biophysics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17:31:49 <ThatOtherPersonY> And I'm certainly not the only one who took both at my school
17:31:51 <Phantom_Hoover> And I ended up dropping out when no universities gave it as a condition.
17:32:25 <Jafet> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biophysical_chemistry
17:32:45 <Fiora> @google relativistic quantum chemistry
17:32:47 <lambdabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_quantum_chemistry
17:32:47 <lambdabot> Title: Relativistic quantum chemistry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17:32:54 <Fiora> (that one's my favorite of fields that are a mix of other fields, I think)
17:33:14 <ThatOtherPersonY> @google biophysical chemistry
17:33:17 <lambdabot> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/03014622
17:33:17 <Fiora> it just sounds so cool.
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17:36:36 <Phantom_Hoover> that's the one where you end up predicting the breakdown of the periodic table isn't it
17:37:53 <Taneb> Medvedev was a pretty cool guy
17:38:25 <Taneb> *Mendelev
17:38:29 <Taneb> *whatshisname
17:39:31 <Jafet> Preved Mendelev
17:39:42 <Phantom_Hoover> he crossbred peas and didn't afraid of anything
17:40:08 <Fiora> Phantom_Hoover: it's like, among other things the reason why gold is gold
17:40:25 <Fiora> (at higher atomic masses relativity starts affecting electron shells and thus chemistry)
17:40:33 <Phantom_Hoover> yes, i learnt that during my metallurgy hipster phase
17:42:08 <Phantom_Hoover> MEANWHILE IN /R/BITCOIN: http://i.imgur.com/ADwE9im.jpg
17:42:23 <monqy> /r/bitcoin?
17:42:26 <Taneb> Another reason gold is gold: reflexivity of equality
17:42:44 <Fiora> gold (noun) is gold (color) -_- XD
17:42:45 <Taneb> monqy, subreddit for bitcoin discussion, presumably
17:42:49 <Phantom_Hoover> it's a libertarian's wet dream
17:42:58 <monqy> Taneb: but why
17:43:02 <ThatOtherPersonY> PRESUMABLY! THAT'S THE WORD I WAS THINKING ABOUT
17:43:08 <Taneb> For discussion bitcoins, of course
17:43:12 <monqy> but why
17:43:17 <Taneb> DISCUSSION BITCOINS
17:43:26 <ThatOtherPersonY> I don't know why, but I couldn't remember the word for a while there
17:43:29 <ThatOtherPersonY> I was very scared
17:43:48 <ThatOtherPersonY> monqy: maybe they're bored and have nothing else to do
17:43:55 <Bike> Phantom_Hoover: wow, bitcoins got up to being worth 30°C
17:44:36 <Bike> also is the point of that graph "stop worrying guys it's just as stable as local weather"
17:44:42 <Bike> because i would not invest in the weather
17:45:10 <Phantom_Hoover> it's "well yeah bitcoin prices are following the exact same trend as the dot com bubble but this time it's different"
17:46:10 <Taneb> I'm glad I don't yet care about bitcoins
17:46:38 <ThatOtherPersonY> I don't care that I don't care about bitcoins, because I really don't care about them.
17:47:24 <kmc> Phantom_Hoover: c.c
17:47:38 <kmc> you know if my local absolute temperature decreased by 70% in one day, I would be pretty worried
17:48:08 <Taneb> (aren't temperatures a thing percentages don't make sense for?)
17:48:16 <Phantom_Hoover> there was also a post explaining why the bubble hasn't burst that literally opened with "bitcoin is different"
17:48:21 <Phantom_Hoover> you couldn't make it up
17:48:38 <kmc> Taneb: it makes sense if you use scale where 0 = absolute zero
17:48:48 <Bike> hear soon they'll be worth $10k
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17:49:20 <Phantom_Hoover> kmc, yeah but temperature represents something absolutely mad mathematically
17:49:30 <Bike> unlike everything else in math
17:49:31 <Phantom_Hoover> it's the derivative of entropy wrt thermal energy i think
17:49:40 <kmc> seems p. legit
17:50:06 <Bike> also if your local temperature went down by 70% in one day i think you'd be more "dead" than "worried"
17:50:26 <monqy> worried first, then dead
17:50:27 <kmc> i thought it was just based on the average kinetic energy of particles
17:50:38 <Phantom_Hoover> there's a clever play on words here based on liquidity but i'm not sure what it is
17:50:40 <kmc> wp says E = ½kT
17:50:47 <kmc> not that it isn't also that thing you said
17:51:34 <Bike> let's see, if the temperature here went down by 70% it would be... -189°C
17:51:42 <Bike> "bet i could take it"
17:51:58 <Fiora> my cold tolerance isn't so good.
17:52:08 <Phantom_Hoover> all your assets would freeze
17:52:14 <Phantom_Hoover> no that's shit
17:52:55 <Bike> oh huh, that low temp. at vostok base was lower than the freezing point of CO2
17:53:03 <Bike> er the sublimation point
17:53:27 <Bike> breathing must be difficult
17:53:39 <Fiora> "all your assets would freeze"
17:53:42 * Fiora begins gigglefit
17:54:01 <Phantom_Hoover> yes i seem to have introduced another pun accidentally
17:54:38 <Bike> "(Warning: 27 Mar 2013 - sublimation video contains java exploit malware, do not run the programme)" thanks wikipedia
17:54:45 <Taneb> Fiora, if you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen
17:55:00 <Bike> that was worse.
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17:55:07 <Taneb> (I thaw-t it was pretty funny)
17:55:17 <Bike> no shut up
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17:55:33 <monqy> :☺)
17:55:36 * boily gently flogs Taneb with a slightly congealed cuttlefish
17:56:07 <Fiora> Taneb: your puns are truly sublime.
17:56:08 <Taneb> I wasn't expecting such an icy reception
17:56:09 <Phantom_Hoover> kinky
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17:56:25 <Bike> holy christ, there were people /at/ the station
17:56:45 <Phantom_Hoover> imo this needs to be phase diagram in the bud
17:56:45 <ThatOtherPersonY> Quick someone give me a github repo url!
17:56:47 <monqy> how did they like it
17:56:59 <Bike> "An average windspeed of 5 m/s" what the fuck is wrong with antarctica
17:57:01 <Taneb> ThatOtherPersonY, github.com/ekmett/lens
17:57:17 <boily> ThatOtherPersonY: pfcuttle/SFL-Heritage
17:57:17 <ThatOtherPersonY> http://starlogs.net/#ekmett/lens
17:57:23 <ThatOtherPersonY> ^ click
17:57:55 <monqy> is this some sort of male-ware ive been hearing about
17:58:02 <Phantom_Hoover> malewear
17:58:11 <Bike> add failing and ifailing
17:58:30 * Fiora just glomps taneb because puns
17:58:35 <Bike> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Wostok-Station_core32.jpg "yeah sure this is a place humans can live in"
17:58:35 <Phantom_Hoover> omg if i highlight text it does it in proper perspective
17:58:43 <Phantom_Hoover> A MARVEL FOR OUR TIMES
17:59:52 <monqy> Bike: yes
18:00:39 <ThatOtherPersonY> Phantom_Hoover: But we already have a Marvel! It's part of a company called Disney, which, incidentally, is the parent company of Lucasfilm, the company which made Star Wars, upon which that scrolling log thingy is based.
18:00:44 <Taneb> Fiora, you're making my heart melt
18:01:15 <monqy> that sounds fatal
18:02:59 <Fiora> aw ;w;
18:03:29 <ThatOtherPersonY> Quick! We must get the Ice Queen to freeze Taneb's heart!
18:03:43 <ThatOtherPersonY> and maybe make some ice cream too, that would be nice.
18:03:51 <Fiora> ice cream!
18:03:54 <Fiora> can it be chocolate
18:03:58 <monqy> it's been like 3 minutes he's probably dead by now
18:04:02 <Taneb> ThatOtherPersonY, the shop in Hexham that sells nice ice cream closed down
18:04:12 <ThatOtherPersonY> yes, it would be wonderful if it was chocolate
18:04:36 <ThatOtherPersonY> Taneb: aw, that's terrible. But it should be enough to freeze your heart!
18:04:42 <ThatOtherPersonY> Yay! It all works out!
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18:05:31 <ThatOtherPersonY> Taneb: I'm not sure if there's a shop that sells ice cream within sixty miles of me
18:05:52 <ThatOtherPersonY> Well, I guess there is a shop that sells ice cream, but not an ice cream shop.
18:05:53 <Taneb> ThatOtherPersonY, that's your own fault for living in a desert country as opposed to a dessert country
18:06:02 <ThatOtherPersonY> ikr
18:06:35 <ThatOtherPersonY> A dessert country would be wonderful, with ice cream mountains and chocolate waterfalls
18:06:56 <Taneb> The nearest shop that specializes in ice cream is probably about 12 miles away
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18:11:00 <Phantom_Hoover> wow what kind of icecreamless wasteland is this
18:11:36 <ThatOtherPersonY> Phantom_Hoover: the one I am in is Saudi Arabia
18:11:53 <Phantom_Hoover> that sounds bad
18:12:01 <ThatOtherPersonY> It's not really that bad
18:12:16 <Phantom_Hoover> and yet you say there is no ice cream
18:12:45 <ThatOtherPersonY> You can get ice cream at the store 5 minutes away, but there isn't a shop that specializes in ice cream for a ways
18:13:29 * boily nervously checks on google maps...
18:14:02 <boily> everything is fine. there's a gelateria within half a kilometre.
18:14:03 <Phantom_Hoover> you're in canada though
18:14:05 <olsner> do canadians also use "octets" instead of bytes?
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18:14:18 <boily> olsner: in French, yes.
18:14:51 <boily> there are some disputes over the proper pronunciation of giga- (with a soft or a hard g), but otherwise everything's pretty consistent.
18:15:09 <boily> ~metar CYUL
18:15:10 <metasepia> CYUL 121813Z 06018KT 3/4SM R06L/3000V5000FT/D R06R/3500V6000FT/D -SN VV006 M00/M01 A2991 RMK SN8 SLP131
18:15:18 <boily> ah! it stopped -PLSNing.
18:15:24 <ThatOtherPersonY> ...
18:15:30 -!- ThatOtherPersonY has changed nick to ThatOtherPerson.
18:16:39 <boily> ThatOtherPerson: y?
18:17:17 <olsner> PLSN = snowing with ice pellets?
18:17:30 -!- nortti_ has changed nick to nortti.
18:17:45 <ThatOtherPerson> boily: I am a shapeshifter! Seismologicate in this knowledge!
18:18:19 <boily> `quote seismologicate
18:18:21 <HackEgo> No output.
18:19:10 <boily> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=rXyv0cgW
18:19:49 <Bike> enlightening
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18:25:07 <ThatOtherPerson> I shall now tell you the full story of my nick.
18:26:05 <ThatOtherPerson> I was staring at my screen, unsure about what I should use as an IRC nick. I was tired. I typed ThatOtherPersonYouDon'tKnow. IRC shortened it to ThatOtherPersonY.
18:26:24 * Taneb sits down in a circle
18:26:31 <ThatOtherPerson> Eventually I decided that the Y just looked silly, and removed it. It is now my alt nick.
18:27:21 <ThatOtherPerson> That is all. That's the story. That is it.
18:27:41 <Taneb> "Taneb" is a portmanteau of the reverses of the first three letters of my name and my brother's name, originally used on a shared account
18:27:55 * boily spreads holy salt around Taneb
18:28:13 <nortti> nortti comes from my old nick which my irc client mangled
18:28:13 <olsner> how did you get holes in your salt?
18:28:19 <Taneb> If you mix holy salt and holy water, do you get holy brine?
18:28:55 * Fiora adds hers?  Fiora is a pegasus knight in Fire Emblem 7.  Florina, her sister, is more of a 'me' character, but I preferred Fiora as a username.
18:29:09 <ThatOtherPerson> Taneb: your brother is named Benjamin?
18:29:14 <Taneb> He is
18:29:16 <boily> my nick is my family name.
18:29:51 <Taneb> My first alternate nick, "Ngevd", is my initials
18:30:01 <Bike> I'm a bike.
18:30:13 <boily> Taneb: next time I'm DMing, I'll have to add that holy brine (with your consent, of course. Is your brine CC licensed?)
18:30:15 <Taneb> Plus an e, which was almost in my name but my name was getting pretty long already
18:30:22 <ThatOtherPerson> Taneb: You have a lot of names, which is unsurprising, since you have many nicks.
18:30:23 <Taneb> boily, brine is public domain
18:30:32 <Taneb> Nathan George van Doorn
18:30:41 <Taneb> The e stands for Eliot
18:30:45 <Taneb> One l, one t
18:31:01 <Taneb> My third alternate nick, "atriq", is rot13 of ngevd
18:31:15 <Taneb> My fourth alternate nick, which I've never used on IRC, is "askit0"
18:31:43 <ThatOtherPerson> The Ninety-Nine Nicks of Nathan George van Doorn
18:31:56 <ThatOtherPerson> That would make a good story
18:31:59 <ThatOtherPerson> maybe
18:32:03 <monqy> maybe
18:32:06 <Taneb> My FIFTH nick, I've only used once
18:32:11 <Taneb> "Flatfish"
18:32:22 <boily> that makes twice.
18:32:25 <FireFly> My nick doesn't have an interesting story
18:32:44 <FireFly> Though my alt-nick is my main nick with its letters sorted alphabetically
18:32:52 <olsner> hmm, this reddit seems to consistently write spoiler links the wrong way around so that nothing ends up hidden
18:32:52 <Taneb> > sort "firefly"
18:32:54 <lambdabot>   "effilry"
18:32:58 <Taneb> `seen effilry
18:33:06 <HackEgo> 2013-03-25 08:48:01: <Effilry> Is there a difference between >< and .. ?
18:33:42 <olsner> (and the instructions as they show for me: "Use: [Hidden inside brackets](/hide) Result: Hidden inside brackets")
18:33:43 <ThatOtherPerson> > sort "thatotherperson"
18:33:46 <lambdabot>   "aeehhnooprrsttt"
18:33:58 <ThatOtherPerson> that would be an awful nick
18:34:18 <monqy> > sort "monqy"
18:34:20 <lambdabot>   "mnoqy"
18:34:27 <FireFly> How intriguing
18:37:32 <FireFly> Fiora: which game in the series is FE7?
18:39:53 <ThatOtherPerson> I would assume that it was the seventh, but I really wouldn't know.
18:40:34 <Taneb> I have a feeling Fire Emblem was weird with the imports
18:41:40 <FireFly> Well, I meant what subtitle did it have
18:42:16 <FireFly> oh, huh
18:42:38 <Phantom_Hoover> my nick is some words i thought were funny when i was like 12
18:42:54 <Phantom_Hoover> imo they have stood the test of time
18:43:46 <monqy> > sort "Phantom_Hoover"
18:43:48 <lambdabot>   "HP_aehmnooortv"
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18:44:06 <Phantom_Hoover> sounds dutch
18:44:38 <Fiora> Taneb: it was the first one released in the US, I think?
18:44:41 <Fiora> Rekka no Ken
18:44:46 <Taneb> I think so, yeah
18:44:55 <Fiora> the one with Lyn and Eliwood 
18:45:12 <Phantom_Hoover> also i kind of thought Fiora was Fiona with a bit rubbed out
18:47:03 <Phantom_Hoover> oh fuck the cat brought another mouse into the front room
18:47:12 <Fiora> ummm n is 6E, r is 72
18:47:17 <boily> meh. IRC won't let me /nick boıly.
18:47:18 <Fiora> that's a pretty large Hamming distance isn't it?
18:47:21 <Phantom_Hoover> IT IS A BETTER THING I DO THAN I HAVE EVER DONE
18:47:45 <Taneb> Phantom_Hoover, Friendship Mouse III?
18:47:48 <Bike> Fiora: like, physically scratching out part of the n grapheme
18:48:08 <monqy> there was a frienship mouse ii???
18:48:20 <Fiora> oh.  XD
18:48:23 <Taneb> monqy, yes, it was I
18:48:27 <Fiora> sorry, I misinterpreted bit -_-
18:48:32 <Bike> lol
18:48:48 <Fiora> unfortunately since I picked this nickname there are now, like.  two higher profile characters who stolesit
18:49:02 <ThatOtherPerson> Fiora: Now I am really beginning to suspect that you are a bot.
18:49:18 <monqy> can always change your name
18:49:21 <monqy> i do it all the time
18:49:36 <Fiora> why ._.
18:49:41 <AnotherTest> A suspected bot that suspects someone else is a bot... suspicious...
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18:55:30 <Taneb> I'm off now
18:55:31 <Taneb> Bye!
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18:58:46 <Phantom_Hoover> oh god this is going to be another friendship mouse
18:58:48 <Phantom_Hoover> i can feel it
19:00:54 <ThatOtherPerson> yay!
19:01:29 <ThatOtherPerson> You're going to need some rainbows, and some sparkles, and certainly some Magic Markers.
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19:03:08 <Fiora> Bike: for some reason I'm reminded of stargirl
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19:04:07 <Bike> hM?
19:04:27 <olsner> `quote friendship
19:04:29 <HackEgo> 496) <Phantom_Hoover> I keep asking random people for "friendship <thing>" and it's crippling
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19:06:26 <Fiora> Bike: "I am not a bot, I am a human girl"
19:07:13 <shachaf> Fiora: those two statements contradict each other hth
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19:10:30 <Phantom_Hoover> I am not a bot, I am a free man!
19:10:33 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds).
19:10:37 <Fiora> ?
19:10:58 <Phantom_Hoover> have you never heard of The Prisoner
19:11:10 <olsner> I have!
19:11:24 <Fiora> I meant to shachaf 
19:11:42 <Phantom_Hoover> should've been clearer!
19:12:09 <Fiora> sorry
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19:14:19 <shachaf> the joke is that humans are bots
19:14:27 <shachaf> except it's no joke!!
19:15:48 <Phantom_Hoover> :mind blown:
19:16:21 <Fiora> am not
19:16:27 <FireFly> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Turk human bot?!
19:17:38 <ThatOtherPerson> no, elaborate puppet
19:18:46 <boily> daft punk?
19:25:14 <ThatOtherPerson> Fiora cannot be a bot, since bots never lie, and she said that she was not a bot.
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19:44:57 * Fiora looks herself over for a moment
19:45:04 <Fiora> well if I'm a bot I guess I'm a pretty realistic one?
19:45:17 <Fiora> to be fair I guess being a gynoid would be pretty cool.
19:45:24 <Bike> gits fangirl
19:45:31 <Fiora> sorry -_-
19:45:32 <Lumpio-> Would kind of depend on the level of AI though
19:45:49 <Bike> fiora's AI is pretty good, she can flatten me in scrabble and pitched combat
19:46:09 <Fiora> pitched combat?
19:46:29 * Fiora doubts that one
19:47:37 <shachaf> What does an unrealistic bot look like?
19:48:18 <Lumpio-> Uncanny.
19:50:07 <kmc> it's cool that big battle scenes in movies are done by programming AIs to swordfight
19:50:32 <Fiora> I know a little fencing at least but I'm pretty sure nitya could crush me in said pitched battle
19:51:08 <Lumpio-> Especially if he brings a gun.
19:52:48 <Fiora> erm.  bike -_-
19:52:57 <Fiora> sorry for switching your screen names around
19:53:37 <Bike> you fiend
19:54:21 <shachaf> oh no nitya=Bike??
19:57:33 <Fiora> though it might be a contest in who is the most out of shape
19:59:11 <Bike> hey, i work out! sometimes. a little.
20:02:23 <Fiora> more than me!
20:06:04 <Phantom_Hoover> i'm not actually sure how applicable fencing skills are to killing someone with a sword
20:07:09 <ThatOtherPerson> If you know how to fence it will probably be easier to kill someone with a sword than if you only know how to box.
20:11:22 <kmc> there's a rule in (some kinds of) fencing which is meant to model the fact that, in a real sword fight, people will try to avoid outcomes where you both end up stabbed
20:12:05 <Phantom_Hoover> yes, those are the crap kinds
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20:12:40 <Phantom_Hoover> priority is for little girls
20:13:29 <kmc> c.c
20:14:20 <Lymia> "2.32s" "Your website is faster than 65% of all tested websites"
20:14:25 <Fiora> I think epee is the one that has the fewest restrictions?
20:14:35 <Fiora> I did foil though, it was just a PE elective requirement thing
20:14:53 <boily> ~duck épée
20:14:54 <metasepia> --- No relevant information
20:14:59 <boily> ~duck epee
20:14:59 <metasepia> A fencing sword with a bowl-shaped guard and a long, narrow, fluted blade that has no cutting edge and tapers to a blunted point.
20:15:31 * boily whips duck duck go with a +1 metasepia of Unicode
20:15:37 <Fiora> also bike is like a foot taller so he'd probably win
20:15:38 <Phantom_Hoover> yes, epee is the one i do
20:15:47 <Phantom_Hoover> i probably am a bit too stubborn about it
20:17:07 <Fiora> it was fun and interesting though, in between bouts of huffing at my asthma inhaler XD
20:18:15 <kmc> ttants: epee, epi pen
20:18:46 <kmc> Fiora: i did foil too
20:18:51 <kmc> in college freshman PE
20:19:03 <Fiora> sounds like we basically did the same kind of thing
20:19:31 <kmc> "While still in use with many classical fencers, most competitive sport fencers, including Italians have abandoned the Italian grip in favour of the anatomical grip."
20:19:37 <kmc> "you know, the one that actually fits a human hand"
20:20:39 <Phantom_Hoover> wait
20:20:42 <Phantom_Hoover> you had PE in college
20:20:47 <Phantom_Hoover> was this like a mandatory thing
20:21:17 <Bike> kmc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sabatons_evolution_by_Wendelin_Boeheim.jpg nah man the renaissance was wear it was /at/
20:21:20 <Bike> (these are shoes)
20:21:29 <kmc> ...
20:21:36 <kmc> Phantom_Hoover: yeah we had to take 3 PE classes
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20:21:52 <kmc> it could be worse, MIT has a swim test
20:21:55 <Phantom_Hoover> kmc, why do i find this so funny
20:21:58 <kmc> you can't graduate MIT unless you can swim 100 yards
20:22:04 <kmc> Phantom_Hoover: because we were a bunch of nerds
20:22:15 <kmc> there's actually a documentary about how bad the Caltech basketball team is
20:22:19 <Phantom_Hoover> no it's not even that
20:22:41 <Bike> is there an MIT tradition to throw you into the Charles or something
20:22:48 <Phantom_Hoover> it's just, like, i associate mandatory sport with primary school
20:22:52 <Bike> (probably not, since you'd die)
20:22:55 <kmc> our fencing team was really good though, because we had one guy who was a math postdoc and also happened to be formerly of the romanian olympic fencing team, or something
20:22:58 <kmc> Bike: yuck
20:23:11 <Phantom_Hoover> yeah there's a weird number of mathematicians in fencing
20:23:22 <Phantom_Hoover> the warwick fencing club is like half maths students
20:23:28 <Fiora> yeah, we had to do 3 PE classes too
20:23:43 <Fiora> my lungs were not happy -_-
20:24:00 * kmc is curious where Fiora went to school, but maybe it's too personal? doesn't matter
20:24:13 <kmc> people say the MIT swim test is supposed to make sure you can swim to shore if you fall in the river
20:24:16 <kmc> but it's not enough
20:24:30 <kmc> at the widest point it's more like 2000 ft across
20:24:38 <kmc> I.E. 611 METERS
20:24:56 <Bike> there are a few colleges with mandatory PE here but i've managed to avoid them
20:25:02 <kmc> it's not so much a "river" as a tidally locked basin thingy
20:25:07 <Bike> once i get back i'll maybe do rowing voluntarily though
20:25:24 <kmc> it's amusing to watch them practice rowing
20:25:30 <kmc> because there are four guys in a boat working their asses off
20:25:38 <kmc> and the coach is cruising alongside yelling at them with a megaphone
20:25:38 <Bike> and then the coxswain yeah
20:26:05 <Phantom_Hoover> where even is Bike
20:26:08 <Bike> i did it in high school, it wasn't quite that hardcore but it was fun even if i was the wussiest guy there
20:26:17 <Bike> Phantom_Hoover: Luxembour
20:26:40 <Phantom_Hoover> where actually
20:26:53 <Phantom_Hoover> also i utterly hated pe, relatedly: my school was a Rugby School
20:28:04 <Bike> what does where i am have to do with this though? rowing's a pretty common collegiate sport
20:28:39 <Phantom_Hoover> well because phrases like 'once i get back' are confusing without context
20:28:48 <Bike> once i get back to school
20:38:12 <Fiora> PE was the worst in elementary school, I think
20:38:25 <Fiora> at least in college I could pick the class, but...
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20:46:23 <Phantom_Hoover> are PE teachers in the states as bad as they are here
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20:46:47 <Fiora> I remember in elementary school a big component of the "curriculum" was these national physical fitness test things
20:46:52 <kmc> ugh
20:46:55 <kmc> yeah
20:47:04 <Fiora> I think the only one I did well on was the v-sit/reach
20:47:30 <kmc> i think i failed horribly at all of them
20:47:34 <kmc> i'm marginally more in shape now
20:47:52 <kmc> gotta get in better shape
20:47:58 <Fiora> I'm not sure if pullups or the mile was the worst
20:48:04 <Fiora> pullups for being more impossible than reversing entropy
20:48:15 <Fiora> the mile for making me smuggle in my asthma inhaler
20:51:20 <Phantom_Hoover> so uh wait they didn't let you take an inhaler
20:52:04 <Fiora> I don't think they let people have it with them, like, you'd have to go to the nurse
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20:53:00 <Phantom_Hoover> O.o
20:53:40 <Fiora> they didn't want to trust 10 year olds with drugs I don't know @_@
20:53:52 <Phantom_Hoover> DRUGZ
20:55:12 <kmc> Phantom_Hoover: D.A.R.E. to say "NO!" to drugs and alcohol!
20:56:22 <Phantom_Hoover> ...what does D.A.R.E. stand for
20:56:29 <kmc> Drug Abuse Resistance Education i think
20:56:37 <ThatOtherPerson> I think it has something to do with ninja
20:56:46 <kmc> it's propaganda in US schools about how if you ever smoke a joint you'll end up dead and in jail and addicted to crack
20:57:16 <kmc> and generally normalizing the idea of a militarized police force which is at war with the citizens of the country
20:57:19 <kmc> perpetually
20:58:48 <Phantom_Hoover> oh
20:58:58 <Phantom_Hoover> is that why you need assault rifles to defend your freedom
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20:59:56 <Fiora> Phantom_Hoover: that reminds me of this http://25.media.tumblr.com/6c98d68b7bb93d733317ee636aa03d7e/tumblr_ml3q2eJTdu1qijn6po1_1280.jpg
21:00:28 <Bike> grimm's is banned somewhere?
21:01:50 <kmc> Fiora: ;_;
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21:03:07 <kmc> Phantom_Hoover: http://bash.org/?409
21:03:42 <Phantom_Hoover> an old one but a good one
21:04:19 <Bike> http://25.media.tumblr.com/a84de1d56c5d159132410ae282879ac8/tumblr_ml5safBANV1qzeo2zo1_1280.gif related?
21:04:28 <kmc> haha
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21:04:47 <kmc> http://www.somethingawful.com/d/photoshop-phriday/bin-ladens-mountain.php
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21:05:25 <Bike> http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/binladenfortress/clockworkjoe-dungeon.jpg nailed it
21:07:36 <Phantom_Hoover> is that original diagram actually accurate
21:07:47 <kmc> http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/binladenfortress/deliverator-crystal.jpg
21:07:58 <Bike> Phantom_Hoover: not even remotely
21:08:06 <kmc> well it turned out he didn't have so much of a "mountain fortress" as a "house in suburbia with a huge stash of porn"
21:08:19 <Bike> no, this is about tora bora
21:08:24 <kmc> whatever
21:08:27 <Bike> which was a bunch of mostly natural caves with a bit of wood
21:08:36 <Bike> well a lot of wood, given the porn, i guess
21:08:41 <kmc> dohohoho
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21:56:51 <zzo38> This Z-machine assembler works now. (Currently it is called "Frolg" after a Zork spell.) http://sprunge.us/PXBb http://sprunge.us/hQjg Please tell me any question/comment/complaints/suggestions.
22:03:43 <kmc> cool!
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22:23:28 <shachaf> Zork has spells?
22:23:36 <shachaf> Oh, Zork II, with the wand?
22:24:02 <zzo38> I don't know which ones, but I mean the Zork series of games and some unofficial games based on the Zork spells.
22:26:24 <shachaf> Oh, from ZGI!
22:26:29 <shachaf> zgi++
22:26:58 <shachaf> It's (spoilers) glorf spelled backwards.
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22:27:59 <zzo38> I know that; the spells which are reverse are given the name spelled backwards.
22:28:26 <shachaf> Did you play ZGI?
22:28:30 <zzo38> No.
22:28:39 <shachaf> You should! It's great.
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22:28:53 <zzo38> Maybe some day. Not now.
22:29:42 <shachaf> Why not now?
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22:30:25 <zzo38> Because I don't have it now!
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22:31:08 <shachaf> You can get it at http://www.gog.com/gamecard/zork_grand_inquisitor
22:31:45 <zzo38> Another day.
22:32:38 <shachaf> It's so good, man.
22:32:47 <doesthiswork> more excuses?
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22:41:33 <Fiora> kmc: http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/MTGOXUSD  
22:42:19 <kmc> yeah...
22:42:23 <kmc> it was on CNBC tv even
22:42:26 <Sgeo> I HAVE MONEY
22:42:26 <kmc> strange times
22:42:29 <Fiora> ot
22:42:30 <Fiora> it's
22:42:32 <Sgeo> MY MONEY. TO SPEND.
22:42:32 <Fiora> kind of      surreal
22:46:45 <Phantom_Hoover> BUY BTC
22:47:10 <Phantom_Hoover> It's only a matter of time before it hits $10k!
22:47:51 <Fiora> I did buy btc!      I just     bought them back at 1/3 of the price I sold them <.<     >.>
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22:48:33 <shachaf> buy high, sell low
22:48:41 <shachaf> kmc knows all about buying while high
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22:51:10 <kmc> lololol
22:51:24 <kmc> Fiora: did you short??
22:51:39 <Fiora> I don't think one can easily short bitcoins...?
22:51:59 <Fiora> shorting is really dangerous, though, I'm not that crazy
22:52:15 <Phantom_Hoover> it would also damage your computer
22:52:18 <shachaf> copumpkin used to lend BTC, didn't he?
22:52:22 <Fiora> without a proper options framework it's basically infinite loss potential, and you're betting on a market that can be incredibly irrational
22:52:56 <kmc> yep
22:53:07 <Fiora> the only kind of short I'd ever even think about is either an options spread or a sell-put
22:53:10 <kmc> but you can always just disappear and not pay back your debt anyway
22:53:14 <oerjan> shachaf: wait is this part of that "distinguish drugs from complexity classes" quiz?
22:53:20 <Fiora> sell-put is nice because it's basically equivalent to owning the stock
22:53:30 <Fiora> or wait no that's not a short bet -_-
22:53:32 <Fiora> buying the put is, agh.
22:53:33 <kmc> Fiora: you can short safely without derivatives if you have a system of brokers and margin calls and such
22:53:49 <Fiora> yeah, but like, that means if the price goes up too much you lose everything
22:53:52 <Fiora> because you have to do a stop loss thing
22:53:53 <shachaf> oerjan: no it's just part of the "kmc is such a stoner" thing. not that he actually is (or is he?? we may never know)
22:54:06 <oerjan> shachaf: i meant the BTC part
22:54:12 <kmc> shachaf: i'm usually not
22:54:14 <oerjan> but then i realized that was bitcoins
22:54:17 <Fiora> and "I bet that bitcoins will not rise past X" sounds about as risky as like.  trying to dash across a highway
22:54:22 <Phantom_Hoover> what even is shorting
22:54:31 <Fiora> during rush hour
22:54:37 <oerjan> Phantom_Hoover: it's when you touch both ends of a wire.
22:54:39 <kmc> but i still think jokes about weed are hilarious, so maybe that makes me a stoner even if i don't smoke up hardly ever?
22:54:41 <shachaf> Phantom_Hoover: Borrowing a thing, selling it, and buying it back later to return it (when it's hopefully cheaper).
22:55:59 <shachaf> kmc: does that mean you can be a stoner without ever stoning (or however that works)
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22:56:32 <Bike> the true weed is not the weed that can be spoken of
22:57:05 <kmc> shachaf: possibly?!?!?
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22:58:42 <shachaf> The other day my friend tried to get me to "smoke a fat bowl" with her. It was funny.
23:02:09 <doesthiswork> was it the good stuff?
23:02:49 <shachaf> I didn't ask.
23:03:26 <doesthiswork> think of all the esoteric languages you could have designed
23:06:47 <oerjan> i'm afraid esoteric languages on drugs all resemble bf derivatives
23:07:36 <oerjan> except Esme.
23:10:27 <kmc> Category:Shameful
23:12:08 <oerjan> `addquote <fizzie> "May you live in INVISIBLE TIMES." --Old Chinese proverb. (It can look confusing when written with the proper Unicode.)
23:12:16 <HackEgo> 1023) <fizzie> "May you live in INVISIBLE TIMES." --Old Chinese proverb. (It can look confusing when written with the proper Unicode.)
23:14:33 <oerjan> `quote 1022
23:14:35 <HackEgo> 1022) <ThatOtherPerson> Do you have a girlfriend, fungot?   <fungot> ThatOtherPerson: there's two.
23:14:54 <shachaf> fungot: hi fungot
23:14:54 <fungot> shachaf: yeah so its not sqrt, it's a fnord that would work too, but...) anyway, what is
23:14:58 <shachaf> ^style
23:14:58 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
23:15:05 <oerjan> @tell taneb * oerjan swats Taneb for incorrect quote spacing -----###
23:15:06 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
23:15:17 <shachaf> fungot: do you love monoids
23:15:18 <fungot> shachaf: i pasted it there during summer :)
23:15:22 <shachaf> :)
23:15:34 <oerjan> `run sed -i '1022s/   /  /' quotes
23:15:38 <HackEgo> No output.
23:15:39 <oerjan> `quote 1022
23:15:42 <HackEgo> 1022) <ThatOtherPerson> Do you have a girlfriend, fungot?  <fungot> ThatOtherPerson: there's two.
23:17:51 <shachaf> DRATSAY WILLFULLY AVOID SENDING SPIRIT THROUGH TIME 
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23:17:56 <shachaf> zzo38: good spell huh
23:18:17 <oerjan> `welcome mohammadaljrrah_ 
23:18:20 <HackEgo> mohammadaljrrah_: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
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23:18:30 <shachaf> `relcome mnoqy
23:18:33 <HackEgo> ​mnoqy: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
23:18:43 <shachaf> mnoqy: are you monqy's evil twin
23:18:49 <Bike> > sort "mohammadaljrrah_"
23:18:51 <lambdabot>   "_aaaadhhjlmmmorr"
23:19:00 <mnoqy> shachaf: close enough
23:19:08 <mohammadaljrrah_> Hi
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23:19:18 <mnoqy> hi
23:19:18 <shachaf> mnoqy: is monqy the evil twin
23:19:41 <oerjan> monqy is beyond good and evil
23:20:10 <shachaf> oh monqy was written by nietzsche?
23:20:18 <oerjan> no, the reverse
23:20:49 <shachaf> yqnom was written by ehcsztein?
23:20:52 <Bike> mohammad is dead and we have killed them
23:21:27 <oerjan> shachaf: i knew you were going to say that.
23:21:47 <shachaf> oerjan: how long did you know
23:22:00 <shachaf> did you figure it out last year? way back when i first joined the channel?
23:22:05 <shachaf> yesterday? a few seconds before i said it?
23:22:20 <shachaf> if it was just a few seconds then imo it's not so impressive
23:22:38 <oerjan> Echsztein, the famous jew who got his philosophy ripped off by the Sizan.
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23:23:51 <oerjan> shachaf: i don't make impressions.
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23:24:28 <Bike> wait does this mean nietzsche was a wej
23:24:53 <oerjan> possibly.  what is a wej
23:24:58 <shachaf> oerjan is spreading the tired rumour that if you play Nietzsche backwards you hear Jewish messages.
23:25:01 <shachaf> It's all in your head.
23:25:02 <oerjan> @wn wej
23:25:02 <lambdabot> No match for "wej".
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23:25:25 <oerjan> `addquote <shachaf> oerjan is spreading the tired rumour that if you play Nietzsche backwards you hear Jewish messages.
23:25:33 <HackEgo> 1024) <shachaf> oerjan is spreading the tired rumour that if you play Nietzsche backwards you hear Jewish messages.
23:25:39 <ion> ehcsztein
23:26:02 <shachaf> quote 1024?
23:26:05 <shachaf> Now we're getting somewhere.
23:26:19 <shachaf> Finally an even number of quotes.
23:27:21 <oerjan> how odd.
23:28:33 <oerjan> `? qdbformat
23:28:34 <HackEgo> qdbformat is: <nick> message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two
23:28:48 <oerjan> @tell Taneb Also, it's `? qdbformat
23:28:49 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
23:29:07 <shachaf> `? qdb
23:29:10 <HackEgo> qdb is used like: `quote; `quote regexp; `quote id; `addquote ...; `delquote id; `pastequotes regexp; `pastenquotes [n]; see also qdbformat
23:29:32 <shachaf> `run ln -s qdbformat wisdom/qdbfmt
23:29:36 <HackEgo> No output.
23:29:38 <shachaf> `run ln -s qdbformat wisdom/qdbrules
23:29:41 <HackEgo> No output.
23:30:03 <shachaf> `? ngevd!
23:30:05 <HackEgo> ngevd!? ¯\(°_o)/¯
23:30:10 <shachaf> `? Ngevd
23:30:13 <HackEgo> ​=���}j/��n��=2ע{-��IPD)��X?{��x�7��ܪ*�>��\ r�}�@�<S��o���v�,��3�iOY���~F�L�z�/ \ ��R�C$|���Jl<�˜�]1"A.�%{7ez���.��)`�[�������m������?Gt�Lo@�Ȗ�6���b`���4( \ e㙡0]P��LG�0�j��T�Ɇ�S�-n:.$9.��l��ӡ�HZ�,�T$��N�'.1�0����i�����ދֻ|>ס�yr�w�6���oQ�heY��7�?�8���s��{�=Na�>��Tt���Ь.��<�&��mz9�&�/���$,�O�T���
23:30:15 <shachaf> Hmm.
23:30:17 <oerjan> neither of those is what Taneb tried btw
23:30:25 <shachaf> What did Taneb try?
23:30:31 <oerjan> quoteformat
23:30:33 <shachaf> `? ngevd?
23:30:35 <HackEgo> ngevd?? ¯\(°_o)/¯
23:30:43 <shachaf> ln -s qdbformat wisdom/quoteformat
23:30:51 <shachaf> `run `? ngevd?
23:30:52 <HackEgo> bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
23:30:55 * shachaf sighs
23:30:58 <shachaf> `run ln -s qdbformat wisdom/quoteformat
23:31:02 <HackEgo> No output.
23:31:13 <shachaf> `? ngevd 
23:31:15 <HackEgo> ​�r��0�M:�v������=h���3W-HQΌs.�׾�3��z�I: �b�ٽ��������T[ђu�޺��Z� �+����m��mZ-6r��/�z����iT��D�Ű�庀H��$���@�9���9�5��Y�"�)&/�*��u�@�����7h�*��Xi�C
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23:31:36 <shachaf> I don't remember how it went.
23:34:24 * oerjan swats elliott for not fixing Taneb's quote despite commenting on the error -----###
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23:43:46 <oerjan> <boily> hagb4rd: green on black is retro and hip.
23:44:02 * oerjan use genuine VT's back in the early 90's
23:44:04 <oerjan> *used
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