< 1365207424 31059 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1365207425 739261 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1365207874 94169 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/*list* < 1365207875 712416 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/*list*: No such file or directory < 1365207881 818324 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/*list* < 1365207883 701443 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/emptylist \ bin/instalist \ bin/list \ bin/listen \ bin/makelist \ bin/mlist \ bin/olist \ bin/pbflist \ bin/slist \ bin/smlist \ bin/testlist < 1365208304 575036 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1365208306 25255 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1365208306 219561 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :*.net *.split 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host < 1365212295 598716 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1365212379 749864 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought logreading was punishable by apathy. < 1365212386 844731 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember the tiny lisps craze < 1365212387 62820 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not even tiny but < 1365212387 257931 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1365212387 452634 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :newlisp, picolisp, zepto < 1365212387 452832 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember zeptobot, remember news-ham < 1365212390 652508 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like a nomic, or < 1365212416 922265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :microkernel nanokernel femtokernel < 1365212418 131357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :exokernel goes somewhere in there < 1365212442 531801 :66MAAH5NI!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365212471 830317 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-14-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we need yoctokernels. < 1365212552 113995 :66MAAH5NI!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365212564 378466 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1365212575 418239 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1365212622 190770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exokernel Mustard returning to the Library with the Gadget < 1365212625 195141 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@ool-44c66823.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Changing host < 1365212625 389723 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365212642 178215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do people pronounce "colonel" as "krnl" < 1365212687 996454 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The linux colonel < 1365212711 410734 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proof Colonel < 1365212793 900402 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365212822 992565 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's what happens when the english military conspires to pronounce french probably < 1365213252 95603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: why would anybody try to pronounce french < 1365213312 317698 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-14-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(19:54) Because the French are masochists. < 1365213348 155775 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365213459 337811 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-14-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PING < 1365213557 636141 :boily!boily@nat/northsec/x-ckxqlazfjpzwxgor JOIN :#esoteric < 1365213557 830973 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365213557 831136 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1365213557 831218 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1365213557 831294 :bengt_!weed@ya.lolk.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1365213557 831366 :kyyni!~jokarkka@melkinpaasi.cs.helsinki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1365213557 831438 :iamcal_!uid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gshojyeecydaotiy JOIN :#esoteric < 1365213557 831511 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1365213557 831584 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365213643 622413 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-14-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(20:00) Welcome back from the split. < 1365213676 270194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The character of Green has been given two different personas in the Cluedo world. Originally patented as The Rev. Mr. Green, in Britain, he is Reverend Green, a hypocritical vicar who weakens when it comes to the Sixth commandment, murder. In North America, he is Mr. Green, who has taken many money-oriented roles from mobster to businessman. Parker Brothers insisted on the name change as they thought the American public would object to a ... < 1365213682 686637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :... parson being a murder suspect.[1] He rolls fourth in the game. < 1365213712 618552 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sixth commandment, murder < 1365213740 673757 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, only Portlanders would be stupid enough to fight flouridation of water X_X < 1365213755 907451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://slbkbs.org/fluids.jpg < 1365213766 390509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seen in Palo Alto, Calif. < 1365213780 406208 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you sure about that < 1365213819 425986 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Unholy_three_cropped.png POLIO MONKEY SERUMS < 1365213827 921139 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, OK X-D < 1365213830 67567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2013-March/034990.html san francisco < 1365213854 498574 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like "USED BY NAZIS" < 1365213854 775096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. good thread, somebody brings up 9-11 trutherism as a hyperbolic troll and then they discuss that seriously for a while < 1365213873 512449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WATER: USED BY NAZIS < 1365213880 493058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ostensibly to prevent tooth decay (dubious) < 1365213897 97505 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365213919 189091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard flouridation is pointless, which sounds more plausible than it lowering IQ and turning you into a nazi < 1365213933 804963 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nazi shmatzi < 1365213984 242051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jpelectron.com/sample/Electronics/PC-%20SCSI%20-%20Connectors.gif the great thing about SCSI connectors is that there are so many to choose from < 1365214053 949801 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the great ting about monoids is that they are so easy to choose from < 1365214056 908406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing < 1365214097 887012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: don't you need some kind of axiom for that < 1365214157 947691 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called the axiom of choice because everyone prefers it to the other axioms < 1365214288 712402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :check out my new axiom, axiom of choice < 1365214337 251539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the axiom of choice for the discerning mathematician < 1365214369 287739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc++ < 1365214386 58557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: isn't that the axiom of comprehension < 1365214399 389067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's a lyrics < 1365214620 738761 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh man this thread is gold < 1365214633 796199 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the guy's response to everyone who says he's an idiot is to criticise them for top-posting first < 1365214637 274587 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the funniest thing to me < 1365214639 277288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1365214678 202404 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :toxic at the cellular level < 1365214705 351378 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also like the email < 1365214708 10584 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dhtmlkitchen < 1365214719 912311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gather that noisebridge has been overrun with hobos and crazies and also they spent all their money and nobody knows how < 1365214738 492159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully nobody on this list thinks that three steel skyscraper can just < 1365214738 687444 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all collapse into their own footprints, because two of them were hit with < 1365214738 687637 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :planes. < 1365214739 403428 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/4749e66db130c47b127835b56bf34e67/tumblr_mkbu5fdToy1r7a5hdo1_1280.jpg Dude. Their blog. < 1365214742 619185 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit < 1365214754 491221 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thread is amazing < 1365214763 978738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: uncle sam looks p. cool in that drawing < 1365214766 858755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rad dude < 1365214767 702469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wow you made me look < 1365214770 7080 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, my Nexus 10's battery finally died. < 1365214771 343778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he really does do that doesn't he < 1365214775 435610 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dutifully reporting 72% to the very end. < 1365214777 510977 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2cool4skool < 1365214783 92237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Top posting, in spite of having the problems with that pointed out in the message to which you're replying, and with new subject matter but the same subject line. < 1365214784 716830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are the 72% < 1365214794 562520 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually hate top posting but this guy is so funny < 1365214801 38804 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :question what is "top posting" < 1365214808 211032 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what < 1365214809 882004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :re: the image < 1365214810 506636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1365214814 893202 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This shifts the helm of the printing press to the federal government and they might print money for ulterior uses, surreptitiously or a vague reason of “national security.” Government officials have been known to influenced by bribes, gifts, threats, blackmail, and force. < 1365214822 552376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :top posting is where you put your reply before a big ol quote of the email you're replying to < 1365214828 727284 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, really. < 1365214830 305027 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Top posting is the best way of posting < 1365214838 984812 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of putting the context before the actual things you're saying and not including five thousand lines that are irrelevant to your email < 1365214850 226651 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course every client promotes doing this by default for no reason < 1365214876 147820 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Planned Parenthood memo indicates a the organization’s darker notes of eugenics-based population control. < 1365214898 986683 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep there's alex jones < 1365214908 187293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And worthwhile of discussion, even if top-posted. < 1365214914 19791 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLATANT CENSORSHIP by CNN of Soldier Supporting Ron Paul’s Foreign Policy - Please Re-upload < 1365214966 998376 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17 Reasons Why A Vote For Mitt Romney Is A Vote For The New World Order. <-- okay i kind of want to read this almost except it's on infowars < 1365215025 268792 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Gingrich a Straw Man? Gingrich is perhaps a straw man. Do night fight single candidate wars; be smart. Use logic, Socratic method (identify BS). Issues are collapse and WW3. The *real* enemy is war, lies, and corruption. These things come from CFR, Bilderberg. Romney (CFR), Rick Perry (CFR, Bilderberg), Obama (CFR, Goldman-Sachs, Brzezinski). < 1365215031 436761 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now i'm done. < 1365215032 818134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FluorIDE sounds like an IDE. < 1365215046 739924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo you should make an ide called that < 1365215047 235925 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do night fight single candidate wars < 1365215051 965843 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google fluoride IDE < 1365215056 132081 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.electricscotland.com/mcintyre/index_f/menu_f/nomenclature.htm < 1365215056 326327 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: fluorine fluoride chemistry < 1365215078 988669 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: tonight on spike < 1365215202 130662 :boily!boily@nat/northsec/x-ckxqlazfjpzwxgor QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365215337 602433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoid monoid on the wall. what is the easiest algebraic structure of all? < 1365215468 622738 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google dylan server pages < 1365215473 827555 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylan_Server_Pages < 1365215474 22177 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Dylan Server Pages - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < 1365215593 533012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I The Last Monoid < 1365215748 176711 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Last Free Monoid in Europe < 1365215961 397603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: to be fair the founder of Planned Parenthood was sort of into eugenics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood#Margaret_Sanger_and_eugenics < 1365215975 338699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe the kind that isn't so bad < 1365215982 196502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also it was the 20s and everyone though eugenics was cool back then < 1365215984 176141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: plz https: link < 1365215988 366894 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i am aware < 1365215996 751432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachattps < 1365216008 445572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you the secure version of a protocol named hachaf < 1365216022 459768 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should have mentioned that the title of that post was "Fertility control agents in water supply" < 1365216133 43289 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHA-chaf < 1365216304 786907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: You left #haskell? < 1365216396 921947 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I just didn't go back in. < 1365217268 461869 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365217396 311514 :clog_!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Quit: ^C < 1365217410 452327 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1365217976 526473 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1365218287 453524 :boily!boily@nat/northsec/x-xukfajsstpzbskso JOIN :#esoteric < 1365218305 361025 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1365219373 446570 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365219398 928967 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which old computer game is the topic/ < 1365219550 429293 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an old one I'm guessing? < 1365219630 579001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good guess < 1365219850 875929 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365219881 586968 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365220282 87688 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mastermind? < 1365220380 829699 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vote Atari ET < 1365220434 801143 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blech! < 1365220690 853619 :boily!boily@nat/northsec/x-xukfajsstpzbskso PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I was telling my colleague on the other side of the table: I never imagined that I would in my life stare at a picture of the teletubbies in a common room around midnight in order to score points in a hacking competition. < 1365220710 568608 :boily!boily@nat/northsec/x-xukfajsstpzbskso QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1365220750 890466 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Civilization II, actually < 1365221306 286990 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sight really improves my programming efficiency http://www.hackertyper.com/ < 1365221330 979166 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^site < 1365222007 898982 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.147.73 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365224743 451911 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1365225027 261025 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365225108 591473 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1365225526 712309 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365227748 618226 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1365228116 103388 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365228157 939035 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365228248 896061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1365230102 131093 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, What's a pirate's favourite letter? < 1365230124 304574 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arrr, you think it'd be R < 1365230130 758763 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they loves the C < 1365230143 275129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@arr < 1365230143 598137 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want me grog! < 1365230148 361411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@arr you sure? < 1365230148 887359 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keelhaul the swabs! < 1365230175 192591 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aye < 1365230242 74713 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did the zero say to the eight? < 1365230248 268296 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice belt. < 1365230489 321358 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did the one say to the seven? < 1365230494 571839 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stay straight. < 1365230533 346917 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1365230723 530208 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an idea listed for a language based on the outcome of jokes? < 1365230751 257187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not, you can add it < 1365230751 451909 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1365230754 548723 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages < 1365230754 746186 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 12h 53m 16s ago: Montréal. < 1365231269 877240 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365231483 579070 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1365231837 491802 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1365232847 447995 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's new porn spam on the wiki < 1365232852 426508 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1365233215 778559 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1365233377 124120 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that french < 1365233538 30751 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: tiredn < 1365233655 490928 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yes. < 1365233877 554462 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/cRrdL4wD < 1365233895 449348 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted to write a new stlisp implementation some day < 1365233988 904152 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365234272 168907 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The source code has gone missing. < 1365234907 905191 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365235457 777728 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365235676 458691 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1365236017 952856 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365236168 390614 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PART :#esoteric < 1365236955 112309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can Z-machine version 1 files be made to work in Famicom? It doesn't have the ASCII codes above 95, but it could be done so that the SHIFT key with codes 64 to 95 and 96 to 126 will toggle bit5 of the ASCII code, like SHIFT toggles bit4 for the codes 32 to 63. < 1365237198 688682 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1365238284 34500 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365238771 993112 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1365240422 808779 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365240744 129337 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365240831 574522 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365241570 892983 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1365242061 79566 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365242229 69915 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365243390 476166 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.147.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365243666 124756 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.147.73 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1365245779 897272 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365245931 560766 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.147.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365245968 523092 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.147.73 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365246193 715990 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1365246340 229523 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1365247061 299028 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1365247509 604230 :ReadingDragon!~ask@unaffiliated/sdr NICK :SDr|Flow < 1365248275 117545 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365248490 751637 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365248629 896997 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365248844 19782 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365248962 239386 :ThatOtherPersonY!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony NICK :ThatOtherPerson < 1365249703 406545 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1365249871 835550 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1365249929 673441 :Regis__!~Regis@189.34.44.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365251339 934927 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.147.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365252042 856967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z-machine version 5 has a command to check if the game disc is genuine. No game uses it, and all interpreters just assume that it is genuine. < 1365252089 289903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some interpreters have an option to tell it that it is not genuine.) < 1365252494 227149 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: are you writing a Z-machine? < 1365252693 141391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, actually at this time I am. < 1365252744 104064 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool! < 1365252759 799835 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was considering writing one for the DCPU, but I didn't for some reason. < 1365252795 696271 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is C and SDL, all versions except 6. < 1365253285 277229 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365253322 862216 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including version 9, which is my own variant based on version 5, although there are a few differences, such as using word addresses in the headers, and allowing packed addresses to be access twice as much memory as in version 8. < 1365253977 543586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :WinFrotz reports the interpreter number as 6 (I tested it using ZmForth). Setting the Tandy bit does not change this, nor does it change flags 1 (ZmForth is Z-machine version 5, so there is no Tandy bit in flags 1). My own interpreter (not finished yet) sets the interpreter number to 11 if the Tandy bit is set in the options, or 6 otherwise; it also sets flags 1 for versions 1 to 3. < 1365254045 40155 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if any version 4 or 5 games use this (other than Beyond Zork, which crashes on Tandy computers), but I put it in anyways, in case someone writes some game to use it. < 1365254322 382627 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365254343 983047 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365254583 747000 :boily!boily@nat/northsec/x-tqurwerckbpmumgh JOIN :#esoteric < 1365254658 596331 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit0 and bit1 of flags 2 remains as it is when the game is restored or restarted or after undo, rather than being restored. I wonder if some game might use this to undo and then do something else < 1365255099 377833 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365255105 604499 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365255247 865428 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason in WinFrotz, if the game selects fixed-pitch mode, the display options are ignored and it uses actual italic and bold rather than whatever colors are set by the user. < 1365255510 389724 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365255516 137120 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365255583 48092 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365255688 556394 :Regis__!~Regis@189.34.44.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a game where you write an AI and fight other people < 1365255759 875560 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's something like that in forth I think < 1365256833 711548 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1365257269 647688 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365257902 613302 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.147.73 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1365258082 906892 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people have dumb reasons for being atheist and some people have dumb reasons for being religious. < 1365258109 68029 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't particularly care either way < 1365258138 182832 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care either, but sometimes their reasons for being so aren't very good reasons. < 1365258879 21839 :Regis__!~Regis@189.34.44.144 NICK :GOMADWarrior < 1365258988 783209 :Mathnerd626!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365259004 900706 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365259438 445988 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't particularly care either way <-- does that mean you are agnostic? < 1365259446 175633 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something else? < 1365259464 16895 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call myself a lapsed Christian if anything < 1365259485 182710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A fallen one. (It's an impressive-sounding name.) < 1365259496 778819 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "agnostic" is still a term for a person who cares some way or another < 1365259516 576669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The book Godel,Escher,Bach also mentions "meta-agnostic" < 1365259535 960014 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a term like meh-gnostic < 1365259747 24100 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of which, I see that that Torment kick-farter ended, and they made it to the $4.25M mark but not quite to the $4.5M one. (Still, they only asked for $900k.) < 1365259761 596797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, I hear Notch put in ten thousand dollars, as usual.) < 1365260200 654593 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he just donate $10,000 to all kickstarters < 1365260605 673033 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On this note, I can't wait for To Be Or Not To Be: That Is The Adventure < 1365260712 516009 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365260759 880732 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, what is that? < 1365260775 279409 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a choose-your-own-adventure version of Hamlet < 1365260779 588297 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Made by Ryan North < 1365260800 393894 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/breadpig/to-be-or-not-to-be-that-is-the-adventure < 1365260831 199422 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1365261259 755489 :Mathnerd626!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365261311 899698 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365262081 726930 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365262874 85834 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1365263491 614836 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365263941 121193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'agnostic' traditionally means someone who thinks the question of whether god exists is impossible to answer < 1365263962 217328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they might still care a lot about the question and write many volumes about what a bummer it is that we can't answer it < 1365263977 801115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally i like the word 'apatheist' < 1365263998 693771 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am 'ignostic' < 1365264021 727751 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apatheist sounds about right < 1365264029 250231 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am 'pretty okay with whatever' < 1365264031 243696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks it is logically possible that a being like a god exists, e.g. if this universe is a simulation running in some other universe, but even though it's possible there's no particular reason to believe it < 1365264046 748099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :any more than we believe there is a teapot orbiting the sun between the earth and mars < 1365264050 80830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is also totally possible < 1365264061 661878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might cost less than a billion dollars to make that happen < 1365264075 594626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure though, I guess you need heavy rockets to get to a solar orbit? < 1365264080 366154 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did somebody put it there a few years ago? < 1365264105 458487 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if there was a single deity powerful enough to be worth worshipping < 1365264111 785298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there are some physical facts which look like evidence for us being in a simulation, if you look at them just right < 1365264120 999226 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not believe this universe is a simulation running in some other universe, but I don't know. However, it is not what I mean by "God". < 1365264126 178500 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'd know because of all the non-believers getting hit by lightning all the time < 1365264144 376388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i think we can confidently say that if God does exist, he is fucking with all of us < 1365264146 579730 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Maybe, but I still don't think so. < 1365264168 252791 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless said deity is benevolent, in which case why the hell wars. < 1365264186 697938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if it is a simulation, is that in another simulation? < 1365264204 572110 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if not, what is it? < 1365264223 105570 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1365264266 706848 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: That is what a lot of people ask. < 1365264313 386115 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However unlikely it is that we are the "top" universe (by which I mean one that isn't a simulation), consider how unlikely it would be for any universe to be top universe, and how unlikely it would be for the top universe to create a simulation of a universe down to our level < 1365264327 556426 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how even more unlikely for it to be universes all the way up < 1365264399 85652 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, what is best for *the universe as a whole*? Of course we shouldn't have a war but that is the job of people to choose not to have a war; probably it is best for the universe as a whole that we have that choice but choose not to use it. < 1365264432 684469 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why malaria, then < 1365264436 225608 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why guinea worm < 1365264470 141496 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"benevolence" doesn't imply fixing everything < 1365264540 20268 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, the laws of physics must still be followed regardless; even if there are sometimes multiple outcomes, or none at all. < 1365264555 566018 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A god that must obey the laws of physics is no god at all < 1365264557 927680 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humanity is not the most important thing in the universe. < 1365264566 710697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Ruby "out of style"? #haskell discusses. < 1365264567 487734 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb: Would you prefer to be a robot that won’t ever go to war or to have a free will which implies you have the choice to go to war? < 1365264572 152476 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: That is what it seems to you. < 1365264591 613470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have to be "a" something, anyway < 1365264617 970832 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, I'd rather live in a society that is weighted firmly against war < 1365264625 180379 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo ruby was never in style < 1365264630 302295 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that even if individuals choose to go to war, society will prevent them < 1365264640 168939 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, if there is some multiverse, do they have a few different laws of physics? < 1365264640 733345 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb < 1365264646 11086 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :individuals can't go to war < 1365264652 313298 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is kind of "how it works" < 1365264664 285145 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Individuals can decide that there ought to be a war < 1365264677 316006 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I shouldn't philosophy this time in the afternoon < 1365264686 586095 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am 'panentheist', which means that the universe (and possibly even the multiverse, omnium, whatever) is a part of God. Some say Spinoza is also panentheist. < 1365264687 316568 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's more like having an opinion than going to war < 1365264702 209392 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ;_; < 1365264710 908744 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, individuals do not go to war as much as the military can, anyways. < 1365264711 238044 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, goodbye < 1365264719 443743 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will stop philosphying now < 1365264725 536727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is different. < 1365264758 829793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Don't worry, it's moved onto Perl. < 1365264833 948617 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.147.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365264879 602544 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My opinion is that the fundamental laws of physics can be expressed by mathematics, although we may not be able to figure it out quite that precisely, and that many of it is not computable, and sometimes there will be multiple solutions or none at all. Of course, this is just guess so I don't really know for sure. < 1365264889 444479 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365264889 639150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: perl is like a cockroach, it will never die < 1365264921 836089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's like the species of cockroaches? < 1365264938 654428 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people prefer different programming languages, and some programming language are good for a few other things too, but you can use it for other purposes too. < 1365264966 355632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :after like 8 years of avoiding perl, I'm starting to use it again for shell oneliners < 1365264996 512289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty convenient especially with options like n, p, l, a, 0 < 1365265024 590179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :These Japanese slides from ekmett_conf are so excited. Why can't everyone make slides like these? < 1365265055 794502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ekmett_conf is decadent and depraved < 1365265090 179552 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone try IPython? It's pysh mode is my favourite shell now, ... well for playing. bash still wins for 'working' < 1365265097 964798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah IPython is great < 1365265116 288390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also cool: http://ipython.org/notebook.html < 1365265125 650056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about bpython < 1365265128 6373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :many cool examples here: http://nbviewer.ipython.org/ < 1365265137 529327 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :btiffin, what about zsh? < 1365265169 506988 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, web notebooks, those are awesome. I've only used them in toy mode though < 1365265171 540357 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used it a couple of times on live cds where it was default. It has some interesting conveniences, but generally I use bash < 1365265171 734664 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365265172 702751 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btiffin: yeah, bash is good for running programs, and python is good for manipulating data, so what I really want is an interface which lets me jump between a bash prompt and a python prompt and easily carry data between them < 1365265184 2958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a design in mind for this, just need to write it < 1365265197 68211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does ipython have method completion and interactive documentation like bpython < 1365265207 398711 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zsh is a time hole Vorpal. ;-) Just one more tweak and life will be great, ok maybe one more. ;-) < 1365265215 249275 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1365265216 607727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh bpython is a real thing? i assumed it was some kind of obscure funpun < 1365265249 162144 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is cython or whatever the thing that took Python and made it into C + calls to libpython.so < 1365265387 349677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, pyrex / cython (i think cython is newer) < 1365265398 205879 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to be confused with cpython, which is just the name of the 'default' python interpreter < 1365265422 914495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are loads of cool ways to call between Python and C or C++ < 1365265426 561122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boost.Python is neat < 1365265436 43889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctypes is really really handy for small things < 1365265486 740927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there's some numpy (or scipy?) feature that lets you just straight up include c code in a string < 1365265565 766129 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365265581 452334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boost.Python gives you basically two things: a C++ data type that corresponds to a Python value, and an easy way to export a C++ class as a Python class < 1365265623 14416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "Python value" type has enough boosty high level C++ magic that you can write C++ code in a vaguely Pythonic style < 1365265690 355126 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valac and Genie? It's like writing Python in vaguely Pythonic style. ;-) < 1365265714 372227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, I haven't heard of Genie < 1365265735 651587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In the vein of Python, Genie uses indentation rather than curly brackets to delimit blocks." so, is indentation sugar for punctuation, or not? < 1365265753 822415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indentation as sugar for punctuation is fine, indentation as core syntax is terrible < 1365265756 778802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imnsho < 1365265784 580979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell mostly passes this test except that the desugaring procedure has a weird feedback from the parser < 1365265864 960102 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Core syntax < 1365265868 257072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1365265876 86041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well I can deal with it < 1365265881 369409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use Python all the time too < 1365265894 243581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are curly-brace preprocessors for Python < 1365265896 551048 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tab by default even, a keyword [indent n] can change that to counted spaces though < 1365265913 220650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if any of them add full lambda support though < 1365265917 564271 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btiffin: :( :( :( < 1365265925 303428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I shouldn't care so much about concrete syntax < 1365265931 817693 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the desugaring in haskell seems very complicated, I've never quite understood how it works < 1365265941 458942 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's pretty simple except for that feedback < 1365265956 59739 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if Genie is getting much attention, but Jamie seems to post up updates once every blue moon or so < 1365265969 543498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the token after 'do', 'let', 'of', or 'in' is not an open brace, insert an open brace and remember the starting column of that token < 1365265984 644555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a subsequent line at the same column gets a semicolon prepended < 1365265993 567676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a subsequent line at a column left of there gets a close brace prepended < 1365266011 403998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some other rules to make sure that you can't e.g. close an implicit brace with an explicit one < 1365266047 505810 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think most beginning Haskell programmers think Haskell is a lot pickier about indentation than it is < 1365266051 676764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know i did < 1365266059 676723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me a while to realize you can say < 1365266061 923639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo x = do < 1365266064 212075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : y <- bar < 1365266071 327465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is way better than foo x = do y <- bar < 1365266086 567344 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because this way you don't have to re-indent the whole block if the name of 'foo' or its arguments changes < 1365266093 61483 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, bf indented would drop it down to 6 symbols. Yeah, indented bf < 1365266096 667033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it just looks cleaner and more uniform < 1365266125 106973 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365266152 739972 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't get how that doesn't prepend a close brace from what you just said. < 1365266173 692656 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ADD RDX, 1 MOV RDX, [RDX+8] SHR RDX, 2 SHL RDX, 1" unrelatedly, lol < 1365266185 746653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the first token after 'do' is that 'y' < 1365266217 61542 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhh, I read it as remembering the do for some reason < 1365266221 243116 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1365266223 88275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's the trick < 1365266235 833178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i didn't realize initially < 1365266240 106895 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't care where the 'do' is < 1365266253 104361 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, right < 1365266269 553813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my list of keywords is wrong I think < 1365266275 97413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'where' and not 'in' < 1365266289 288849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing after 'in' is just a single expression, not a semicolon-delimited list of stuff < 1365266304 836727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there's also a special rule that lets you write 'module Foo where' without then indenting the rest of the file < 1365266314 328582 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hmm, bf indented would drop it down to 6 symbols. Yeah, indented bf < 1365266319 684169 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you want to do [] < 1365266329 256707 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or [something][else] < 1365266333 13997 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blank line, obv < 1365266339 377804 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1365266390 605797 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that special? sounds like that's allowed by the rule you gave before < 1365266394 108132 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1365266394 989412 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And maybe indented bf would be better served by vertical tab instead of horizontal, to keep with the f-ness. < 1365266412 617110 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also doesn't care about indentation at all in blocks that have {} around it < 1365266424 688825 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't answer my second question < 1365266429 233203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: In [something][else] the second part is never executed < 1365266497 20676 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, uh < 1365266499 297013 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good point < 1365266565 590610 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it's an inadequate syntax if multiple behaviorally identical programs can be expressed < 1365266611 387371 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have me reading up on Cython, because real men call Python from COBOL. And Cython might make that magically easi(er). COBOL is always on the look out for magic. < 1365266629 684672 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well, if you are trying to compress it, then at least it means the compression might not be very good and it should be try to improve < 1365266668 774923 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo compression by just storing the results of the program instead of the program itsel < 1365266682 839351 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The results might be longer, though, and the program might require input. < 1365266747 210418 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vorogomlok compression < 1365266839 12814 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To compress a brainfuck program you might use some kind of Huffman coding but provide no coding for redundand instrructions, and then furthermore code runs of the same instruction several times compressed too < 1365266926 690814 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1365267070 826604 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-14-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Just RLE works really well on Brainfuck. < 1365267218 292018 :boily!boily@nat/northsec/x-tqurwerckbpmumgh QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1365267267 269327 :boily!boily@nat/northsec/x-jtpcjdyxzksdjomy JOIN :#esoteric < 1365267880 23908 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i'm not sure < 1365268080 937624 :SDr|Flow!~ask@unaffiliated/sdr NICK :SDr < 1365268448 275681 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1365268845 255173 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Quit: ragequit < 1365269403 908056 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365269433 90499 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365269618 763548 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god the thick of it is even more amazing than it was before < 1365269940 881138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which bit are you on now < 1365269976 669332 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nicola murray just made ben swain shadow chancellor < 1365270021 491667 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sounds like something I should watch < 1365270026 863138 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What form of media is it? < 1365270045 243038 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :television < 1365270062 115669 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc it's not on the iplayer so you may have to resort to methods of questionable legality < 1365270087 595116 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Methods of questionable legality? < 1365270089 408356 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No problem. < 1365270112 33427 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a list of things I need to watch, so I'll let future me deal with it < 1365270119 393736 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For better or for worse < 1365270136 367342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does future Taneb have a beard? < 1365270142 717637 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1365270149 263053 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Present Taneb doesn't, which is odd < 1365270167 170596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Present Taneb the British version of Santa Claus? < 1365270192 644764 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I deliver presents to all the little girls and boys all over the east half of Hexham < 1365270196 18189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's on Hulu if you can connect through a US IP < 1365270212 958390 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT IS AN OPTION < 1365270239 498750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geographically restricting content by IP is such a quaint notion < 1365270252 879064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I watch FOX shows on Hulu, it pastes the logo of the Boston area FOX affiliate into the corner < 1365270263 543372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt skeuomorphs < 1365270271 348526 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... aren't you in somewhere that isn't Boston < 1365270281 114595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i'm in Boston area (Cambridge, just across the river) < 1365270284 924025 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1365270302 547620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you were in mid-cambridge < 1365270308 212479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1365270310 152386 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I assume everyone who isn't me, Phantom_Hoover, elliott and ais523 or Finnish all live together with shachaf < 1365270327 472704 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Norwegians and Swedes live with the Finns) < 1365270329 667788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I'm Finnish. Where does that put me? < 1365270343 903211 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, in Finland, with everyone living with you < 1365270349 86672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365270353 546647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "river" a metaphor for the atlantic ocean < 1365270372 4283 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... Cambridge is in, like, the south-east < 1365270376 571521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :since cambridge is in england and all < 1365270378 130445 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not near the coast at all < 1365270396 877192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :picturing the hexham equivalent of http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Steinberg_New_Yorker_Cover.png < 1365270439 671869 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My knowledge of geography is pretty good until the north sea, Keswick, Alnwick, and Yorkshire < 1365270493 246447 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at Google Maps now < 1365270501 124510 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never realised how far west Edinburgh is < 1365270506 758241 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover has some explaining to do < 1365270517 453349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo Taneb should move to cambridge < 1365270538 215098 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cambridgeshire or Massachusetts? < 1365270575 268253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :either one. i'm not picky!! < 1365270577 640143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shadow chancellor" sounds like a much cooler office than it actually is < 1365270584 832379 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ikr < 1365270645 768858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe move to Newcastle upon Tyne, California < 1365271654 394775 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@87.115.210.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365271816 640525 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1365271887 32224 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old computer games? Has anyone ever played micromud? < 1365271916 516863 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have played some old computer games < 1365271924 697069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I have played that one though < 1365271948 863260 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its only for the c64 í think. < 1365271996 4942 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A single player version of the essex mud < 1365272028 417514 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Games for old computers are sometimes still written this year. < 1365272203 525576 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :single player version of a mud? what's the point < 1365272271 368319 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a sud < 1365272306 945061 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other players are AI. It's from approx 1985 when very few people could play online. < 1365272361 903512 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365272393 112228 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION used to play a few BBS door games. < 1365272408 570209 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365272432 655259 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1365272448 354669 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cambridge has a new retro computer museum opening soon. < 1365272490 529184 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I play a few BBS door games. < 1365272500 867467 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are still available. < 1365272538 276415 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inform-7 < 1365272559 237831 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best parser, ever < 1365272980 404183 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using it from the angle of interactive fiction training, random reward being a powerful human incentive. Grace Hopper History lesson game will be first up. < 1365273004 928126 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and if you don't know Grace. http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2516 (Don't forget the red drop hover over bonus comic). < 1365273014 491947 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :red dot < 1365273087 486328 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo fran allen < 1365273150 622923 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. Thanks Bike < 1365273304 84279 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365273460 524978 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1365273524 897077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365273580 426244 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you call the thing in a book within a chapter where one storyline stops and another begins and there's a little gap, sometimes with a swirly little pattern? < 1365273690 79952 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@message? < 1365273690 659198 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: messages messages? < 1365273691 846680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1365273692 291959 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1365274039 467140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: I know what you're talking about, but don't know what it's called either < 1365274071 240143 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it doesn't have a name, one needs to be invented. < 1365274122 621856 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried transition, but I don't think that's the right jargon < 1365274175 844521 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I doubt it's segue < 1365274184 456374 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was just proofreading and wanted to tell the author it feels like it needs one of those things... but without knowing the name I'll sound a bit stupid :-) < 1365274248 347654 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you say "transition" they'll probably know what you mean < 1365274250 941177 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe a "cut" < 1365274332 826280 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365274460 94321 :Fleshlight!~user@188.234.60.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365274541 927484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh wow, the new spambot filter (filter 2) actually seems to be holding, it's cutting out like 80-90% of the spam we're getting < 1365274548 578411 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1365274556 290989 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad there's still block spam < 1365274594 44763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, and account creation spam < 1365274600 441754 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be nice to hold them off at the CAPTCHA < 1365274639 237153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think CAPTCHA development is a losing battle in the long run, but it may work in the short term < 1365275072 801565 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365275192 894710 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365275397 154859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at Pin Eight; they say it works much better. < 1365275797 325433 :Fleshlight!~user@188.234.60.10 QUIT :Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs) < 1365276277 355138 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365276565 359428 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1365276653 249686 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1365277056 641135 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365277086 128194 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365277142 501985 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365277919 110453 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Youtube must think my music tastes are really messed up < 1365277925 492558 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm listening to some black metal < 1365277954 452745 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Recommended for you: Brahms Piano Quartet in C minor opus 60 4th mvt Finale" < 1365278091 800065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1365278109 520872 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty awesome taste imo < 1365278139 308854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I thought logreading was punishable by apathy. <-- i think you are confusing cause and effect here, sir < 1365278364 26778 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365278855 314988 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1365278855 548571 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365278925 316358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE: USED BY NAZIS < 1365278941 93257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fixed that for you < 1365279007 935044 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365279030 790626 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365279048 489065 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365279067 926409 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365279579 769725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :· · < 1365279581 583226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1365279584 230581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : :☹( < 1365279585 660121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1365279588 717876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : ----- < 1365279591 365770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ \ < 1365279606 655147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats that < 1365279630 228672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously that's Fractal Nose Man < 1365279669 294088 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV6dLhepx6w < 1365279679 325104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may not have heard of him, since he for some reason never gets invited to the other superheroes' parties < 1365279683 798920 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops monqy isn't even in here "what's the point" < 1365279693 523782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqy < 1365279715 57979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf's meaning of life, wasted < 1365279805 97806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell monqy we love you monqy... / we miss you in school... / do you think i could... help you? < 1365279805 565731 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1365279943 724615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :[explanation of channel's purpose] | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1365279952 748263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask monqy [i mean ie] http://books.google.com/books?id=tdPnQS2WT_sC&lpg=PA48&ots=r1ZFu-z6MH&pg=PA48 < 1365279953 148050 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1365280620 450853 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365280729 410760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are TLBs usually fully associative < 1365280908 467938 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365280934 808549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: then they would be too easy. < 1365280943 16333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like monoids? < 1365280951 253592 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365280960 847718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i suppose they might not have a unit < 1365280977 327327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i get it < 1365281242 986945 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a TLB like a BLT < 1365281269 75690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhat < 1365281398 673273 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365281453 210025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy gsoc is coming up < 1365281462 945941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you going to be a mosh mentor if it gets slots < 1365281475 369044 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365281524 297262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm signed up as the backup mentor < 1365281551 874575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, is that different from backup admin? < 1365281556 509563 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365281556 703733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365281558 835337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'm that < 1365281561 160361 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365281564 975835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shuold figure out what i am < 1365281572 143902 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1365281573 931741 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is backup admin for haskell.org < 1365281581 786001 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do any of us truly know what we are, in the end < 1365281594 256146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I expect to spend time helping people, whether or not in any official capacity < 1365281594 811932 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is very little to do with GSoC, if any < 1365281615 419380 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365281621 141292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw if any of you are students and would like to work on Mosh and get paid by google we would be super happy to have you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if google approves our slots which they might not < 1365281635 108851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: (and over 18) < 1365281650 666418 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-14-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Hmm. That might be a good idea. < 1365281653 488936 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365281654 614033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rules out most of the channel??) < 1365281657 402673 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-14-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am totally a student, and mosh seems neat. < 1365281667 254098 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm over 18, but only debatably a student < 1365281702 143599 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE NEXT YEAR < 1365281773 771295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's involved in being a mentor, anyway? < 1365281776 959541 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365281784 750179 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's mental < 1365281809 64282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: cool. you can come by #mosh if you have any questions < 1365281816 535045 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is mosh again < 1365281824 19224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mosh.mit.edu/ < 1365281829 563534 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC ain't good enough for you?? or something < 1365281832 724185 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it that thing aimed at children with the monsters < 1365281843 148742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a replacement for (some of) SSH, which stays connected if you move your client between networks < 1365281852 144219 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's kinda cool. < 1365281852 338408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also works better on crappy connections < 1365281857 474830 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-14-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've started using it recently. It works beautifully. < 1365281859 319326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i've used it on connections where TCP doesn't work /at all/) < 1365281860 645318 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365281862 603572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it has predictive local echo < 1365281875 604152 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-14-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It even makes remote shell over Wifi work better. < 1365281877 851994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a replacement for THE INTERNET AS WE KNOW IT < 1365281878 766318 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it use udp...? < 1365281881 110012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1365281886 81779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses a custom state-sync protocol over UDP < 1365281887 423340 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall investigate < 1365281888 738789 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1365281895 942186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning if packets get dropped, it doesn't necessarily retransmit them as is < 1365281896 780239 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could prove useful in playing Dwarf Fortress < 1365281900 446681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just tries to get you up to the latest state < 1365281909 144250 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-14-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's quite neat overall. < 1365281909 594779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should have a soc project to port mosh to use nacl imo < 1365281911 302853 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i probably won't work on that and i'm not competent enough to use ssh regularly but i wish you luck < 1365281932 357783 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-14-72.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also handles the client side of the connection migrating. < 1365281952 921176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: CrOS people were keen for that to happen < 1365281961 953435 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, huh, the approved organizations are being listed tomorrow* < 1365281969 467259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :keithw got as far as trying out his terminal codes torture test in their JavaScript/CSS terminal emulator < 1365281974 691114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and filed like 20 bugs all at once < 1365281997 735137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "the other nacl" < 1365282007 829961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1365282015 964397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah we're happy with AES-OCB < 1365282019 232305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"though maybe that one is good too who knows ? ?" < 1365282027 80250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :keithw doesn't want to add algorithm negotiation b/c it's more complexity and risk < 1365282059 457436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the choice of OCB was really lucky, everyone hates CBC and GCM now < 1365282077 236887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tho........... maybe it's because fewer people are thinking about OCB atm < 1365282087 625704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No negotiation. Just replacing it. < 1365282104 646327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but matthew green likes it and he's like a crypto researcher < 1365282119 730271 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, may I ask you two questions? < 1365282150 824498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard phillip rogaway likes it too < 1365282153 200937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hopes Taneb included that as one of his questions, just in case < 1365282156 608047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... maybe it was a different person < 1365282168 452507 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: o rly < 1365282171 569841 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that is indeed the case < 1365282184 229101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :great! < 1365282184 423590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did that weblog answer your question yet? < 1365282193 961688 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtfcrypto? no < 1365282201 141272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they probably decided my question was 'too crazy' < 1365282209 230334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :''what was your quesiton'' < 1365282214 771367 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was your question. < 1365282222 334821 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf knos < 1365282227 75960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was your question, < 1365282230 879082 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"is god real" < 1365282236 245951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do? < 1365282237 708592 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Did you chose your IRC nick because you were annoyed at always being first alphabetically?" < 1365282243 647342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I've forgotten. < 1365282245 154629 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could god create a cryptosystem so strong that even he could not break it < 1365282246 259919 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and what encryption does he use" < 1365282271 300321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think zzo38's nick may predate him joining irc < 1365282274 298422 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet god uses homomorphic encryption. < 1365282293 472797 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the entire universe is just an encrypted computation of the optimal Starcraft strategy < 1365282295 861906 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, but look at his real name! < 1365282307 403713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh hm good point < 1365282324 484150 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Taneb" was first used by me in pretty much the worst of situations) < 1365282333 988329 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, one-time pad with the key thrown away? :p < 1365282340 779138 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a shared account on a crapy "build a city and conquer your neighbours" web game < 1365282341 756277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can god forget stuff tho < 1365282342 243838 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1365282350 349686 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, if he wants < 1365282352 557824 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, he can throw it < 1365282375 167348 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :omniscient vs omnipotent < 1365282383 620136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :same and yet different? discuss < 1365282403 922319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently "omniscient" is pronounced "om ni shnt" or something?????? < 1365282413 355619 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say incompatible and perhaps incosistent < 1365282414 560532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than "omni" "scient (like science)" < 1365282430 931421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord 'z' < 1365282433 14522 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 122 < 1365282455 729040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord 'a' + ord 'z' < 1365282457 782940 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 219 < 1365282478 270739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr.(219-).ord<$>"aaron" < 1365282480 226565 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "zzilm" < 1365282499 532706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb, going to bie 15 miles < 1365282501 202547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike < 1365282510 411185 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello? < 1365282513 8903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1365282517 672719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :annyong < 1365282523 704329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr.(219-).ord<$>"zzo" < 1365282525 621175 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "aal" < 1365282594 246523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : could god create a cryptosystem so strong that even he could not break it <-- is this related to the IP=PSPACE theorem? < 1365282758 146058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's what you need to convince someone _else_ you've broken it. < 1365282784 22431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it doesn't really apply if god can affect your rng < 1365282865 336222 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exercise: design a cryptosystem secure from an omniscient observer < 1365282889 191627 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't an omniscient observer know the message anyway < 1365282911 660340 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the only way to do that is to not have a message in the first place < 1365282918 105770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good, Taneb. you get an E on the test. < 1365282923 764407 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods sagely < 1365282925 580220 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1365282930 812826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you cannot get better because you didn't solve the problem) < 1365282962 939037 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only six more letters and I can spell my name! < 1365282972 252751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait not having a message in the first place sounds vaguely like buddhism. < 1365282994 863449 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :christianity is pretty much a buddhism ripoff anyway imo < 1365283001 955307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1365283024 230560 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(didn't christianity come kinda four hundred or so years before buddhism or am I getting mixed up) < 1365283024 490265 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo Bike is a unicycle ripoff < 1365283041 105859 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting mixed up < 1365283043 841514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you are getting mixed up. < 1365283067 211729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or backwards. < 1365283116 348497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: he's really conjoined unicycle twins, and i don't think you should discriminate him like that < 1365283158 303431 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a unicycle < 1365283167 502376 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ought to learn to ride it at some point < 1365283239 110516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I changed it to set the interpreter number to 4 when Tandy mode is not set, rather than 6, so that the runes will display correctly (this program uses the Amiga version of the font 3). < 1365283293 985809 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1365283322 116178 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, that doesn't answer either of my questions < 1365283348 26274 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: O, sorry. Can you repeat the question which you want answered, please? < 1365283362 350218 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :First question: may I ask you two questions? < 1365283386 629606 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can ask me whatever you want; I might or might not answer. < 1365283411 688473 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second question: did you choose your nick because you were annoyed at being alphabetically first all the time? < 1365283417 226618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1365283446 479311 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you explain the origin of your nick? < 1365283475 805291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not actually remember why, but I think it had something to do with a design I was trying to make in school with numbers, but the only ones they had left were 3 and 8. < 1365283480 591690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Watch out! That looks like an ordinary question but it's actually a 13,13veiled request. < 1365283501 317151 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't care. < 1365283531 398039 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :13,13OK. < 1365283554 28411 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are good resources for learning how to create, eg, Famicom games? < 1365283555 234454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION didn't remember pink was an irc color < 1365283565 278230 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's magenta hth < 1365283618 81397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :5thx < 1365283628 970421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1365283636 555475 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Try NESdev wiki; it explains most things about NES/Famicom necessary for emulation or to write a game, including the keyboard and mouse (the mouse was never intended for the Famicom but it works anyways) < 1365283646 815403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :0,5testing < 1365283658 130048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that was definitely wrong color < 1365283664 463655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's 13 hth < 1365283678 255750 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, have you ever attempted to read Homestuck? < 1365283678 567432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok the 8 is for light i guess < 1365283691 451744 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It appears magenta in my computer only because it is programmed to display bold text as magenta. < 1365283708 423932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote It appears magenta in my computer only because it is programmed to display bold text as magenta. < 1365283718 295388 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1013) It appears magenta in my computer only because it is programmed to display bold text as magenta. < 1365283728 468386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,011 < 1365283751 960635 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, stop homestuck evangelising < 1365283772 526885 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I evangelise Haskell to Homestucks and Homestuck to Haskellers. < 1365283776 36276 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the only way < 1365283790 470574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :homestuck more like homest......upid < 1365283802 379103 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :PC color codes use 1 for blue, 2 for green, 4 for red, and 8 for high intensity (only on color monitors; on monochrome, 1 (but not 2 to 7) are underlined) < 1365283807 25899 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, let me tell you a story < 1365283810 710450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do they ever manage to escape from home < 1365283814 727576 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :once, i was a homestuck evangelist < 1365283819 928743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,011 2,022 3,033 4,044 5,055 6,066 7,077 8,088 9,099 10,1010 11,1111 12,1212 13,1313 14,1414 15,1515 < 1365283825 977624 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then, months later, i realised i had created Sgeo < 1365283835 909977 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't let this happen to you < 1365283842 674509 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tragdye < 1365283843 34859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1365283862 721013 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is unlikely that I will create Sgeo < 1365283868 486386 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you created Sgeo?? < 1365283868 758410 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He seems pretty already created < 1365283883 884064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: did you ever consider this a crime against everything < 1365283884 915160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :0,011 0,022 0,033 0,044 0,055 0,066 0,077 0,088 0,099 0,1010 0,1111 0,1212 0,1313 0,1414 0,1515 < 1365283888 163094 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for background colors, 8 means blinking text, instead of high intensity < 1365283910 587609 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, pretty much < 1365283916 957884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Now foregrounds! < 1365283925 15283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1365283937 391536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the one above had foregrounds too hth < 1365283948 603758 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, i try to make amends for my past crimes but it's just not enough < 1365283961 529789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: foregrounds against a black background obviously < 1365283963 871818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :blackgrounds < 1365283965 865006 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, they did escape from there home but then one of them stuck his arm back in and got stuck < 1365283967 57842 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Goodnight < 1365283980 223156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: hey want to hear a good joke < 1365284000 579267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of them stuck his arm back in home and got stuck < 1365284006 642462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4home5stuck < 1365284018 982935 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in that moment i swear we were haskell < 1365284142 751837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (:()~(,01)**~*S:):((0)~^(1)~^(2)~^(3)~^(4)~^(5)~^(6)~^(7)~^(8)~^(9)~^(10)~^(11)~^(12)~^(13)~^(14)~^(15)~^)^ < 1365284142 946018 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :0,0101,0112,0123,0134,0145,0156,0167,0178,0189,01910,011011,011112,011213,011314,011415,0115 < 1365284452 424623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realizes the color numbering in his client has nothing discernible to do with rgb < 1365284476 974740 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't follow a rainbow either < 1365284489 186126 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think IRC colours is a de-facto standard started by mIRC but once again I could be mixed up < 1365284500 238355 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it is < 1365284516 54509 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb may not know his religions but by gum he knows the history of shitty protocols < 1365284528 311619 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we've had this discussion about irc colors before < 1365284530 863586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the primaries seem to be 2,3 and 5. maybe it's fibonacci based :P < 1365284577 152795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is there actually a difference? < 1365284588 526633 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :between religions and shitty protocols? < 1365284608 646655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a religion is pretty much a shitty protocol with god, or similar < 1365284619 707745 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :religions have better pay but flamewars involve being on fire, i guess < 1365284667 34724 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :religions can also involve being on fire < 1365284832 459728 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1365285023 65581 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the adherents of the blessed oiled smock < 1365285081 503980 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1365285096 406754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :32mtesting < 1365285099 305147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1365285130 856446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this channel +c yet? < 1365285132 786959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be. < 1365285141 935758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats shachaf -----### < 1365285155 695093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :13,13finally < 1365285157 238907 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: my client is +c < 1365285159 957923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :13,13finally < 1365285167 226491 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as such, I don't notice the color spam < 1365285169 326907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Does it disable bold too? < 1365285173 116376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i just tested the ANSI color escape, which apparently doesn't work for me (although the logs show the code got through) < 1365285173 311305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it annoys you, I recommend you do the same < 1365285174 861369 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no < 1365285186 73051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that's not the same as Freenode's +c < 1365285197 502969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1365285209 526903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, can't you patch your client to fix that? < 1365285222 848351 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«In 2009, Sarah was reported in various media outlets as having "won" a "talking to plants competition" against ten others.» < 1365285267 943041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the plants voted her the best speaker < 1365285336 278937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to "improve" that joke but the housemate started coughing < 1365285376 905113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes my interest in life temporarily turn off. < 1365285491 690748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i'm hungry, that makes _everything_ worse. -> < 1365285564 903739 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I am coughing. < 1365285571 921428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I'm the housemate? < 1365285815 223187 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PART :#esoteric < 1365286042 421733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know if shachaf and oerjan were housemates all this time and neither of them realised < 1365286071 881586 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be like me and elliott except so much more amazing < 1365286086 714886 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially since shachaf and oerjan are established to live in different countries < 1365286108 80237 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like narnia only with dicks < 1365286142 712346 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I can't get that comment to fit the context in any shape, way, or form < 1365286164 807704 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365286190 653988 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a dream that I was naked in the freezer at work with a bunch of other people, except I wasn't that cold. I took this as evidence that I'd be fine living in northernly areas. < 1365286237 688571 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a freezer big enough for a bunch of people to be in at your work? < 1365286252 664851 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. It was bigger in the dream < 1365286257 153558 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaah < 1365286261 740082 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: where else would he keep his coworkers? < 1365286269 164187 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, fridge. < 1365286269 994987 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather inefficiently packed in said dream, I might add. < 1365286280 509569 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Means you don't have to defrost them when you want one. < 1365286281 162642 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just lots of open space for being naked in. Totally cost-ineffective. < 1365286309 895692 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a dream where I couldn't find the book where I write things I need to watch in < 1365286317 984813 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess the real freezer can have a bunch of people in it at once, but it would be crowded. You'd also be surrounded by dead animals. < 1365286319 487627 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I had something I needed to cross off < 1365286343 444388 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :parts of animals, really. < 1365286350 412947 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which I do, to be fair) < 1365286373 502354 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not enough to reconstruct whole animals. I mean it's not like we store eyes or something. < 1365286385 859372 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway < 1365286400 687004 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya was enjoyable. < 1365286406 449532 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend it. < 1365286432 880630 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1365286444 411434 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear it has tits. < 1365286445 828546 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where they're going, do they need eyes? < 1365286461 811779 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it references but does not actually show. < 1365286470 221545 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think eyes are all that nutritious to humans, generally. < 1365286470 416170 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except when it does. < 1365286476 788289 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: "what a shame" < 1365286527 930739 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was a parody of high-school anime < 1365286534 293609 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I shall now sleep < 1365286538 130556 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-193-133.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365286599 479432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote It's like narnia only with dicks < 1365286603 157849 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1014) It's like narnia only with dicks < 1365286655 127153 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, did you know there's such a thing as a vitreous humor transplant? Maybe you could get it fro chickens. < 1365286782 175664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i'm sure there are plenty of people who'd like to have feline eyes < 1365286783 934429 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365286794 242799 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365286802 883595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(evidence: half of furrydom) < 1365286808 833606 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh you can just get contacts for that. < 1365286810 365131 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365286828 448091 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I definitely need to stop myself from getting highlighted by feline < 1365286835 291434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there are plenty of people who would like a more permanent solution < 1365286857 903494 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well vitreous humor wouldn't do it. you'd need, like, your iris replaced or some shit. < 1365286871 903030 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/ef66/ < 1365286900 325168 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora has those. < 1365286925 37955 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://a.tgcdn.net/images/products/zoom/ef66_brainwave_cat_ears.jpg < 1365286943 710402 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow, this does not seem like the intended usage. < 1365287029 874925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: do they actually work? < 1365287080 441687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd suspect you'd want to hide that black thingy better < 1365287486 426287 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : if the token after 'do', 'let', 'of', or 'in' is not an open brace, insert an open brace and remember the starting column of that token < 1365287490 95965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where not in < 1365287523 827487 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was discovered shortly afterwards < 1365287527 246507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1365287559 854733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there are several ghc extensions that add extra keywords to the list. mdo, rec, and now \ case < 1365287570 815926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably proc for arrows < 1365287574 109137 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should read the logs backwards < 1365287578 237645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1365287593 175341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: but then my brain might stack overflow! < 1365287646 378851 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you should just read the whole log at the same time < 1365287690 665337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then my buffer-of-things-to-comment-on overflows instead D: < 1365287932 872836 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365287978 41431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i think there's also a special rule that lets you write 'module Foo where' without then indenting the rest of the file < 1365287999 825004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's just that the first indentation block doesn't start until after that where < 1365288016 182867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's no outer block you have to indent it more than < 1365288046 803479 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a couple more lines about that too (but not very conclusive iirc) < 1365288046 997567 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365288059 559805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it didn't look conclusive < 1365288061 749115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1365288080 990489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo ' module Main where < 1365288082 330912 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1365288083 615481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1365288105 507794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo ' module Main where'; echo 'main = putStr "It works!"') > Test.hs < 1365288109 153585 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1365288117 812557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ghc Test.hs < 1365288134 141444 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '%s\n' ' foo' 'bar' 'baz' < 1365288137 353823 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ foo \ bar \ baz < 1365288148 196870 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :… < 1365288149 995704 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[1 of 1] Compiling Main ( Test.hs, Test.o ) \ Linking Test ... < 1365288162 807119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1365288164 133995 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '%s\n' ' foo' 'bar' 'baz' | cat -A < 1365288164 543968 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ etc \ factor \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ Test.hi \ Test.hs \ Test.o \ wisdom < 1365288165 773158 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ foo$ \ bar$ \ baz$ < 1365288168 479927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`Test < 1365288169 669734 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: Test: not found < 1365288173 481443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./Test < 1365288174 799510 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works! < 1365288197 904638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ok so the "module" line itself isn't affected by layout. < 1365288298 927156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '%s\n' 'foo' ' bar' 'baz' < 1365288300 418933 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo \ bar \ baz < 1365288331 31526 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ' foo' < 1365288332 382990 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ foo < 1365288337 524912 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. What’s up with that? < 1365288341 87186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm there wasn't anything wrong at the beginning < 1365288350 775078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: up with what? < 1365288358 580214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see the initial space just fine < 1365288372 464347 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don’t see a “foo” in the output. < 1365288380 187828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1365288389 238831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : do you see this line? < 1365288396 853582 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1365288411 973422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, maybe it's HackEgo's initial zero space doing it < 1365288425 216903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how to produce that in my client < 1365288437 149628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*zero-width < 1365288437 455164 :ion_netcat!~ion@xdsl-237-224.nebulazone.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1365288445 3525 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ' foo' < 1365288446 777965 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ foo < 1365288484 737131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ​ foo < 1365288486 304926 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :60 72 97 99 107 69 103 111 62 32 8203 32 32 102 111 111 < 1365288487 812278 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. So it is WeeChat that’s broken. I’m running a nightly version. Let my try upgrading to a newer nightly. < 1365288502 47562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord HackEgo> ​ foo < 1365288503 544253 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :72 97 99 107 69 103 111 62 32 8203 32 32 102 111 111 < 1365288528 144732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it actually _does_ get copied if i make sure to include surroundings < 1365288540 615577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord foo < 1365288542 170908 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 32 102 111 111 < 1365288548 833328 :boily!boily@nat/northsec/x-jtpcjdyxzksdjomy QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1365288551 581557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord foo < 1365288553 104461 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 32 102 111 111 < 1365288559 795904 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ​ < 1365288561 27943 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 8203 32 32 < 1365288571 423567 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :suhweet. < 1365288628 750716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: it could be an old bug given that HackEgo rarely prints things starting with space < 1365288706 889328 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord           ​‌‍‎‏ < 1365288708 244112 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :8192 8193 8195 8196 8197 8198 8199 8200 8201 8202 8203 8204 8205 8206 8207 < 1365288744 262325 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, I skipped one. < 1365288749 130336 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck is a HAIR SPACE < 1365288766 495969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's that space you get on your head as you get older hth < 1365288773 46280 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "thinner than a thin space". < 1365288783 183592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also "in traditional typography, the thinnest space available". < 1365288788 657647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(According to the "notes" field.) < 1365288789 611037 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Genius. < 1365288814 518091 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A thin space is "a fifth of an em (or sometimes a sixth)". < 1365288834 183924 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365288838 722312 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three fifths of a space < 1365288891 6612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not use secret data as an array index. < 1365288891 232238 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Early plans for NaCl would have allowed exceptions to this rule inside primitives specifically labelled vulnerable, in particular to allow fast crypto_stream_aes128vulnerable, but subsequent research showed that this compromise was unnecessary. < 1365288896 800391 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems I accidentally also the right-to-left mark and left-to-right mark. (U+200E and U+200F.) < 1365288901 689628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Any idea what could've been going on there? < 1365288922 254054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They all look the same in gucharmap.) < 1365288990 760039 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like something djb would say. < 1365289010 563708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Everything djb says sounds like something djb would say. < 1365289015 635479 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, it sounds like something he did say. < 1365289034 166386 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, djb is a big AXR fanboy. < 1365289068 958760 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google aes cache timing site:cr.yp.to < 1365289072 730097 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cr.yp.to/antiforgery/cachetiming-20050414.pdf < 1365289072 924369 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Cache-timing attacks on AES < 1365289099 648494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :AXR? < 1365289106 612480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Addition/Xor/Rotation? < 1365289106 922559 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google salsa20 AXR < 1365289109 471907 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_37OduVkzSE < 1365289109 665940 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: salsa 20 sept 12 - YouTube < 1365289119 162130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that video sounds good < 1365289121 269968 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's called ARX. < 1365289178 44257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :video matched expectations < 1365289554 559801 :ion_netcat!~ion@xdsl-237-224.nebulazone.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1365289612 872122 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365289730 956155 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1365289762 447834 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote variable < 1365289764 542208 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alexbagel says: i find that my first 26 variables are always easy to name. after that it becomes a bit harder. < 1365289788 630302 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why mathematicians should learn their Greek. < 1365289852 945111 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ΑA, very helpful < 1365289958 579951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :x,y,z,x',y',z',x'',y'',z'', i don't see the problem. < 1365289973 18615 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :x, x', x'', x''', x'''' < 1365289978 183254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact no reason to use the x. < 1365290013 94599 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use numbers as letters < 1365290036 878359 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :solve: 0² + 401 + 1² = 22 < 1365290044 160929 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var <$> iterate (++"'") "x" < 1365290047 363163 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [x,x',x'',x''',x'''',x''''',x'''''',x''''''',x'''''''',x''''''''',x''''''''... < 1365290061 975168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var <$> iterate ('\'':) "" < 1365290064 654859 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [,','',''','''',''''','''''',''''''','''''''',''''''''','''''''''',''''''''... < 1365290069 875810 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :could've been funny in a different way if he'd said 24 letters instead < 1365290122 878770 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :23; βηθ. < 1365290164 685843 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :digammas, digammas everywhere < 1365290219 268276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "shadow chancellor" sounds like a much cooler office than it actually is <-- does he at least have a black cape? < 1365290255 881424 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, they do work, though they're more reactive to emotional state/excitement levels/etc than they are controllable < 1365290257 480656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: When you /last and your irssi window gets cluttered with /last noise, you can use /last -cl to get rid of it < 1365290260 870592 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably control them to some extent with practice < 1365290264 63583 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(re earlier) < 1365290268 976023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told elliott before and he was surprised. So now I'm telling y'all. < 1365290275 774298 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: irssi sucks. < 1365290291 193700 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is /last short for lastlog < 1365290292 453144 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that sounds like missing the point < 1365290305 411244 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it is. well it's nice to abbreviate -clear < 1365290307 403433 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1365290318 831732 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: on the contrary, it indicates eternal mental fortitude over the cat ears < 1365290327 880331 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vulcan cat ears < 1365290340 399840 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but basically they totally work and are really cute and etc < 1365290364 636648 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(other catches: the little box is kind of heavy, not horribly so but mostly due to batteries. the headpiece is really only hide-able if you have bangs, I do but many people don't) < 1365290375 28505 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, foreheadpiece < 1365290378 680310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: huh, is there something similar that can clear /whois or /ban results? < 1365290416 392703 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was asking elliott about clearing /ban results when I discovered he didn't know this. < 1365290422 195893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1365290423 30112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you find out, let me know! < 1365290573 770616 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also! there's like 3rd party covers for the ears that change their color < 1365290577 324437 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a pair that makes them purple < 1365290619 833634 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there covers that can change color? < 1365290666 742694 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, I don't think so < 1365290668 632466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that how leopards work? < 1365290683 113639 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :part of me also wants to like, make a pair of covers that look like troll horns < 1365290697 882250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :trolls don't have horns........ < 1365290717 166717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what animals change color according to emotion rather than just camouflage? < 1365290735 831400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :humans hth < 1365290737 747042 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the ones that change color to communicate, right? < 1365290742 620404 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like um, octopi < 1365290750 389451 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cuttlefish < 1365290758 641084 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chameleons change colour according to emotion sometimes i think < 1365290770 608252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like when their emotion is "i want to hide now" < 1365291007 532347 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, it's OCTOPODES you PRETENTIOUS FUCK < 1365291045 31440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's octopodulars < 1365291047 632916 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :octopæ < 1365291077 442114 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :???? >_< < 1365291104 988034 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiding isn't an emotion fuckass < 1365291112 379570 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: (i'm pretty sure octopi is a valid plural...) < 1365291118 696773 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :octopopulus < 1365291123 601491 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :octopedes < 1365291124 570036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :octopee < 1365291129 250457 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :octopa < 1365291138 671980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :octopodagra < 1365291141 349669 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1365291144 996407 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :octodad < 1365291150 586342 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, fsvo 'valid' < 1365291163 621723 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hiding is an action .. but feeling hidy would be an emotion < 1365291169 984499 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you people start arguing about latin declensions so help me i will threaten you < 1365291189 338970 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's supposed to be greek, hth < 1365291198 643408 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut uuuuup < 1365291203 83253 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well octopodes seems equally pretentious < 1365291204 302100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :octopodim < 1365291206 458889 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to octopuses < 1365291215 90923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo let's argue about hebrew declensions < 1365291217 861963 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :octoi < 1365291220 642684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what's a declension < 1365291221 97948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(consider e.g. "forum", english plural "forums" not "fora") < 1365291222 564968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i already started hth < 1365291225 228148 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiorums < 1365291239 630960 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how you change nouns to fit... stuff. like gender marking and pluralization and stuff. < 1365291244 602602 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's when you change the vowels but keep the consonants, right? < 1365291255 557047 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes, but it's also /correct/. < 1365291257 236022 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't know shit about Hebrew. < 1365291257 430335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Uh, sometimes. < 1365291261 296679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actipas < 1365291266 208464 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it true that you have singular, plural, and also dual? < 1365291270 286097 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe dual is obsolete. < 1365291284 709503 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :category theorists certainly use the dual < 1365291292 403324 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said shut up! *points* < 1365291299 845678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: fun fact: sometimes if you want to put the definite article on something you put it on every one of the adjectives but not on the noun itself < 1365291305 560580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sometimes you also put it on the noun < 1365291310 861797 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, < 1365291315 345502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i'm being unfair here?? < 1365291330 16544 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo duels are obsolete < 1365291331 147637 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/1b8wzp/my_shot_at_cont/c99jt8u < 1365291333 605920 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: genius < 1365291349 70250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo.......... < 1365291354 119053 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"infinite type errors" < 1365291396 479873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :catpaes < 1365291401 879943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo let's throw Sgeo down a delimited continuation < 1365291402 209575 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\x -> x x) id < 1365291404 76199 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: a0 = a0 -> a0 < 1365291465 743081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh and hebrew has a word for marking a direct object, which is good < 1365291469 358341 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just fix < 1365291477 316311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other language has a whole word reserved for that purpose < 1365291495 591039 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: imagining hebrewers snickering every time an englisher uses "whom" < 1365291509 570817 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still don't know when to use whom < 1365291509 825556 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a direct object? < 1365291522 647879 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: When you're making fun of prescriptivists. < 1365291531 930183 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: "I hit him", him is the direct object. < 1365291533 537344 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the difference is the same as that between 'he' and 'him' < 1365291541 953886 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an indirect object is like the store in "I ran to the store" < 1365291550 180355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I ate a cat" has no direct object, right? < 1365291561 968453 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure the cat is still a direct object. < 1365291563 173889 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a cat" is the direct object there < 1365291581 317319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? < 1365291591 946365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wouldn't use the word there. < 1365291596 777193 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, 80% sure? < 1365291601 791241 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's a weird article thing. Hebrew has only a definite article. < 1365291618 584806 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and um why are you eating cats < 1365291639 37617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: because they're delicious < 1365291668 292175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :them hebrews and their cat-eating < 1365291669 651829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. for the same reason i eat cows < 1365291672 142570 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :practice skinning them < 1365291674 240455 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the direct object can be something complicated. Like "something complicated" perhaps < 1365291674 435641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :99.26% sure here < 1365291692 157039 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or would it be "be something complicated". fucking auxilaries. < 1365291698 624198 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there are so many different ways you have to get familiar with < 1365291750 281797 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should get a copy of Syntactic Structures. Then whenever anybody asks me a grammar question I don't care about I'll just show them the CSG for English in the appendix. < 1365291762 157699 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHERE'S YOUR LANGUAGE ORGAN NOW MOTHERFUCKER < 1365291762 944177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think "be" isn't considered to take an object, if that's what you mean. < 1365291780 302138 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not, i was wondering if the verb was "can" or "can be" < 1365291811 962441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I be uncertain of that. < 1365291843 64059 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You be a fuckin' wanker. < 1365291865 77987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generally, Hebrew marks every noun in a sentence with some sort of preposition, with the exception of subjects and semantically indefinite direct objects. Unlike English, indirect objects require prepositions (as in "He gave me the ball"), and semantically definite direct objects are introduced by the preposition את /et/. < 1365291879 279939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I WAS TALKING ABOUT SEMANTICALLY DEFINITE DIRECT OBJECTS < 1365291884 472208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SORRY FOR BEING TOO FANCY FOR YOU < 1365291888 319603 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what that means. Awesome. < 1365291905 92933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : an indirect object is like the store in "I ran to the store" <-- no "to the store" is a prepositional something. it's like him in "I gave him an apple" < 1365291924 283325 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net TOPIC #esoteric :[semantically definite explanation of channel's purpose] | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1365291980 760552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Hebrew_grammar#Prepositions < 1365291987 977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you know what i know < 1365291988 52406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hungarian doesn't have a word, but it has a _verb inflection_ for definite direct objects. < 1365291988 390214 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What can you tell me about Polish? < 1365292026 845291 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"literally I see /et/ the-book" literal translations are so easy < 1365292050 70886 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :albook < 1365292122 898453 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why this making of 2001 thingy needs to thank the High Commission of Sri Lanka < 1365292183 173792 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clarke lived there, so that's probably related? < 1365292224 653522 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. arthur c. clarke was gay. did not know that < 1365292234 504775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Olvastak egy könyvet." - i read a book. "Olvastam a könyvet." - i read the book. (from google translate, except for correcting first -m to -k because google doesn't understand the grammar i'm trying to demonstrate.) < 1365292235 228699 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so... looks like this high commission thingy is like their embassy < 1365292268 685496 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Clarke used to be a Tiger. < 1365292274 134090 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-253-208.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :his younger, wild days < 1365292277 305480 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Journalists who enquired of Clarke whether he was gay were told, "No, merely mildly cheerful."" < 1365292280 871637 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pfff* < 1365292282 158099 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1365292283 935381 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot