< 1364601664 211333 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they run with the .NET framework executable.. (mostly piped or passed as a parameter) < 1364601680 59959 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this things are handled with the FTYPE function < 1364601690 938168 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :give it a try..and you'll see < 1364601722 170095 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :here a FTYPE entry: < 1364601723 490685 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WPDContextMenu.Url="%SystemRoot%\System32\rundll32.exe" "%SystemRoot%\System32\ieframe.dll",OpenURL %l < 1364601786 164305 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see the TYPE WPDContextMenu.Url (define with ASSOC: file extension->filetypename) is handled by another program < 1364601804 848780 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the % things are vars < 1364601830 235994 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :however.. it's just some smalltalk now < 1364601864 175924 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows is so underestimated ..i must say < 1364601868 394102 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1364601882 784345 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's even good < 1364602081 597649 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe one more thing: %SystemRoot%\System32\rundll32.exe with that native executable you gain access to the whole unmanaged WINAPI libs (+3rd party assembly dlls) < 1364602683 126382 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also everything you setup with FTYPE, ASSOC in the shell (user interface ;) is just handling the db-values of the REGISTRY, (cmd regedit).. it takes some tome to find your way through its structure but soon enough you will wonder how much of windows' behaviour is to be configured basically by pulling a chain or pusing another trigger < 1364602719 288393 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that registry < 1364602906 678371 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PONG < 1364603023 81869 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help. < 1364603030 229507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNIP < 1364603291 986018 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see your euhoria know no metes or bounds < 1364603295 263048 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1364603468 653327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :knows no meets or joins < 1364603488 900619 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1364603508 30205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lattice not overdo this. < 1364604308 378139 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364604750 357038 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lettuce < 1364604767 691911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :semilettuce < 1364605108 892284 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smelly Lattice < 1364605178 970337 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1364605884 478112 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1364605893 554645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo.O < 1364605896 780024 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got a spam where it pretended to be http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326473/Canadian-couple-Allen-Violet-Large-away-entire-11-2m-lottery-win.html < 1364605912 587821 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, there's this in the email: < 1364605913 414381 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can verify this by visiting the our web pages below. < 1364605913 608632 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326473/Canadian-couple-Allen-Violet-Large-away-entire-11-2m-lottery-win.html < 1364605954 887407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand what you're saying but, daily mail :( < 1364605958 938570 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, if someone actually reads the article, they'd see the email (which claims "we are < 1364605959 132649 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :donating the sum of 1.million dollars to 6 lucky individual over the world") is false, but there really is an article < 1364605964 474333 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should paste the spam somewhere < 1364605978 163280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the daily mail? < 1364605983 244631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than a tabloid. < 1364605983 618276 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/private/2fyt7yhoncha5bluttiy1a < 1364605994 625454 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: terrible < 1364606059 437774 :hagb4ked!~perdito@koln-4db42f71.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1364606070 81546 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define PARENT(type, field, p) ((type *)(void *)((char *)(p) - offsetof(type, field))) < 1364606090 740897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define HI BIKE < 1364606096 292057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: a xenophobic, reactionary tabloid < 1364606104 995362 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hachet < 1364606117 672204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most recently they publicly mocked a transgender schoolteacher who then committed suicide < 1364606129 284269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :their response: to delete the article from their website and pretend it never happened < 1364606156 610305 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1364606229 854997 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1364606252 367229 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364606262 258369 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, oh wow, link < 1364606290 33461 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/23/richard-littlejohn-lucy-meadows_n_2940090.html < 1364606290 357862 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the author again? littlesomething, littlebottom maybe < 1364606293 576321 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :john. < 1364606329 46069 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i didn't notice the 'then' < 1364606346 273176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Littlejohn#Controversy_and_criticism < 1364606349 111040 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, she killed herself partly because of the article. < 1364606356 901566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if that's established < 1364606359 240153 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know what gittid(2) is for? < 1364606367 900981 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is regrettable that this tragic death should now be the subject of an orchestrated twitterstorm, fanned by individuals – including former Labour spin doctor Alastair Campbell – with agendas to pursue." < 1364606368 563247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gettid(2)? < 1364606375 43352 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Asian hopscotch lessons" < 1364606378 370988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god Alastair Campbell < 1364606378 733662 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did the word agenda get so politicised < 1364606393 712158 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: as in "man 2 gettid" < 1364606395 292667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all I actually know about Alastair Campbell is that Armando Iannucci really, really hates him < 1364606418 881586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you said gittid but anywya, it gets the thread id? don't mean to be a jerk but it's what it says on the tin < 1364606438 955367 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, why's that there if there's pthread_self? < 1364606449 302421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pthread_self(3) < 1364606451 563555 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much of anything about Linux or POSIX, I guess. < 1364606452 99129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gettid(2) < 1364606453 94064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gittid is the system call used to implement pthread_self I expect < 1364606457 412997 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah now I've done it < 1364606459 284371 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says they're different, though. < 1364606461 270322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw you Linus Torvalds < 1364606470 198391 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1364606474 944226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect the userspace pthreads library keeps a mapping between them < 1364606482 497292 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" The thread ID returned by pthread_self() is not the same thing as the kernel thread ID returned by a call to getâ€�tid(2)" < 1364606514 528514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :libpthreads will call clone(2) and that returns a TID < 1364606561 664226 :btiffin_!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1364606570 729993 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see that in man pthreads. < 1364606580 472440 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Both of these are so-called 1:1 implementations, meaning that each thread maps to a kernel scheduling entity." < 1364606588 968075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, rethinkdb used syscall(SYS_gettid) instead of pthread_self() < 1364606592 921221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember why. < 1364606593 805794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should write a program that uses pthread_self() and then strace it < 1364606599 998982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the pthreads library might cache the value anyway < 1364606613 859380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: does it also use clone(2) < 1364606656 452735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses pthread_create(), I'm pretty sure. < 1364606679 692723 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, speaking of gays: http://25.media.tumblr.com/8dd3f1120a544044be9d2aa661dc6846/tumblr_mkf2olVUil1qbrf1vo1_500.jpg < 1364606691 664642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: will clicking this link give me the gay < 1364606716 522145 :btiffin_!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com NICK :btiffin < 1364606728 511006 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite the opposite.... maybe < 1364606748 201568 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@187.65.193.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't lisp slow? < 1364606755 945240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolololololololol < 1364606756 778079 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So slow. < 1364606762 994437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't even have monoids < 1364606792 946967 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means it's difficult, not slow, kmc!! < 1364606917 478046 :hagb4rdoux!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364606988 636290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/pot-dealer-in-uk-gets-sentenced-to-write-10-page-essay--161750168.html < 1364606995 648660 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"“I asked the judge if I could write a balanced argument for and against cannabis, but he said that since it’s illegal, I should only write about the bad things,â€� said Bennett." < 1364607005 116401 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a modern galileo < 1364607075 115085 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Speaking with various UK news outlets, he seemed rather excited about the assignment, saying he’d gotten right to work with online research." < 1364607103 227490 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the UK have a place to get weed from/send way too many firearms too, like the US does? < 1364607108 20980 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to* < 1364607323 465767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean mexico? < 1364607353 452162 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1364607393 659270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think undocumented workers in the UK are mostly from Poland, and undocumented workers in Poland are from Belarus < 1364607402 393673 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't know where from in Belarus < 1364607413 298951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also Poland is in the EU so maybe this is bullshit? < 1364607486 499201 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in belarus they're from the uk, obviously < 1364607524 933602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe north korea < 1364607629 978666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think either of those is correct < 1364607643 60806 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in belarus they use the mutants left over from chernobyl < 1364607692 964630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh makes sense < 1364607694 310700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover++ < 1364607701 556251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so obvious < 1364607722 555595 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/zTUppyZp i'm starting to think i need to stop reading this source < 1364607724 242711 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have another question: on a boat, does the cabin air conditioner exchange heat with the water rather than the outside air? < 1364607743 755929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the water is cooler than the cabin air, then you don't even need to run the compressor! < 1364607757 632294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you probably will anyway, to make it go faster, and also because there's not a way to move the refridgerant around otherwise < 1364607767 793766 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i doubt it < 1364607785 57797 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think on a small boat you probably just have a window AC unit, for simplicity, but on a big boat maybe not? < 1364607786 744131 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no you need to keep reading < 1364607787 282986 :hagb4rdoux!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :air conditioning on a boat? < 1364607795 223457 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe on really big cruise liners that can afford to have a whole dedicated air conditioning system < 1364607801 947363 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes hagb4rdoux boats get hot too < 1364607807 653617 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah a cruise liner HVAC system must be at least as complicated as a building < 1364607814 818356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a lot more < 1364607823 168484 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: "soon you will go insane and lose your ego and i can order you around as i please! MWA HA HA" -- you < 1364607838 300138 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no not really >_< < 1364607854 512845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike what is this code < 1364607854 706884 :hagb4rdoux!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like ..loveboat < 1364607869 501398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what hath god wrought < 1364607872 510666 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"#define DIAG_DECL(decl) decl" thanks < 1364607887 614527 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it puts all the used registers in an array obviously < 1364607888 777786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#unnecessarypreprocessordirectives < 1364607895 960252 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it from a conservative garbage collector < 1364607900 1288 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh gosh you should see all the stuff bike was pasting < 1364607900 195715 :hagb4rdoux!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd < 1364607913 512986 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The linux32 one is http://pastebin.com/wDsaSenA which seems way more sane to me. < 1364607914 704129 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even just the C macro abuse is amazing < 1364607921 903851 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does type checking with C macros < 1364607923 879006 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from a garbage collector, yeah. < 1364607930 224919 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't know what the hell is going on with the type checking. < 1364607938 987649 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : #define DISCARD(expr) \ BEGIN \ (void)sizeof((expr)!=0); \ END < 1364607942 252716 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like...?! < 1364607963 888282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a type checker? < 1364607972 73210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like just a way to mark 'expr' as used when it isn't really < 1364607978 48528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that would just be (void)expr; ? < 1364607992 374141 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sizeof is to make sure the compiler looks at it, and barfs if it's not a valid expr < 1364607997 158620 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :without actually evaluating it < 1364608001 321290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1364608004 473172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a syntactic check < 1364608006 141303 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the type check is: #define ASSERT_TYPECHECK(type,val0 ASSERT(type ## Check(val), "TypeCheck " #type ": " #val) < 1364608007 637400 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :errrr < 1364608019 268849 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(type,val) I mean. < 1364608019 960644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm < 1364608033 289478 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't for the life of me figure out what this is for. < 1364608083 436482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i will drink the rest of this oatmeal stout and then attempt to understand that code (not really) (only the last part is not really, the beginning part is completely really) < 1364608117 867646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You should make mosh use NaCl. < 1364608134 75247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NaCl only supports weird djbalgorithms yeah? < 1364608161 158044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you mean the other NaCl < 1364608161 352842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :[TO DO:] crypto_secretbox_aes256gcm < 1364608163 811477 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :djbalgorithms < 1364608167 497608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1364608169 696061 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what you said < 1364608175 995615 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought shachaf meant the other nacl < 1364608184 805707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the twitter crypto mafia was making fun of gcm the other day < 1364608187 3490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant the one with the djbalgorithms. < 1364608191 517501 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i think we shouldn't use gcm < 1364608192 293657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway that's a [TO DO:] < 1364608196 353388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitter crypto mafia < 1364608202 649361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one it actually uses is crypto_secretbox_xsalsa20poly1305 < 1364608206 66352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish house mafia < 1364608221 441720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I asked a queston on http://wtfcrypto.com/ but it didn't get answered yet! < 1364608244 769106 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the question? < 1364608275 766717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether H(key || nonce || block index) produces a secure stream cipher keystream, in principle < 1364608277 493027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You should write a MITM program that inserts misleading information into web pages about cryptography when you don't fetch them with https. < 1364608286 26648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eventually all cryptography programs will be broken. < 1364608296 263144 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a cool tumblr :o < 1364608298 268322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: O: THEY'RE IN THE WALLS < 1364608304 340195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: just started up < 1364608314 477332 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION follows
< 1364608323 854364 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1364608349 921622 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I can't find a follow button -_- < 1364608357 225779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how tumblr works < 1364608367 10805 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you click the wrong button you will probably get dick gifs < 1364608368 857374 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just fyi < 1364608378 760816 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I guess I can do it manually < 1364608384 452113 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Sometimes if they're jerks they make it a bit weird to follow them. I had to do a bit of diving for some other one. < 1364608387 152429 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dick gifs? Hot dog! < 1364608388 329502 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that a general internet tip < 1364608393 348491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1364608396 40859 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your Rights Online < 1364608424 575355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this oatmeal stout somehow lacks a %ABV label so I can only assume it will give me incredible superpowers < 1364608424 896456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: http://www.tumblr.com/follow/wtfcrypto hth < 1364608433 294914 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankies < 1364608434 242299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unless it doesn't work.) < 1364608442 193503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I just made up the URL.) < 1364608447 780223 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gif would be just the wrong format < 1364608447 975097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well donechaf < 1364608453 68727 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364608472 589139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankeegan < 1364608487 812601 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, it actually works. < 1364608508 45910 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what's your tumblrpage < 1364608533 93779 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnxmnkmnd, insert self-flagellation here < 1364608555 255367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a horrible username. :-( I'll never remember it. < 1364608561 230051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's as bad as that jumble of letters I use. < 1364608562 196975 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :write it down < 1364608569 492368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: thank'se < 1364608575 247436 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My page title is cyrillic gibberish. < 1364608578 106173 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i see you already @messagesed < 1364608580 90491 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw what could qualify as a WTF at work < 1364608581 403883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :minix man kommand < 1364608585 685458 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1364608588 296958 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I clearly missed out by making it Bicyclidine. < 1364608596 135105 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on* < 1364608598 5097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt: bicycle day is every day < 1364608599 85661 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably going to get worse, but hey < 1364608653 296747 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: by "that jumble of betters" do you mean slbkbs < 1364608664 399319 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or shachaf < 1364608679 887177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i get it < 1364608681 577717 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf has no posts but exists. hmm??? < 1364608686 707832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :???????????? < 1364608689 632600 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i exist?? < 1364608694 412261 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://shachaf.tumblr.com/ < 1364608704 989332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1364608729 995497 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that's not you, you should fight the owner to the death... actually might be amusing if you did that even if it was you. < 1364608731 933044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imo you should make mosh use NaCl anyway < 1364608741 915835 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nacl is "p. cool" < 1364608758 219346 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, should be HTML5. < 1364608764 877445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1364608772 517704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap pikhq < 1364608773 122200 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hits pikhq with an assortment of kitchen utensils
< 1364608784 385732 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...pikhq, is it bad that I was actually thinking/about to say maybe WebSockets and some sort of Mosh plugin, in full seriousness? < 1364608797 470946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i like that comic < 1364608797 925171 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364608801 789957 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/c7e064b67f5ee680a3f15474a51b7873/tumblr_mkaoj4YV9b1qewacoo1_500.jpg < 1364608804 800242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good comic < 1364608808 388183 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML 6 actually includes o:XML as a fully featured sublanguage. < 1364608850 652001 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thought that comic was a Schrodinger's cat joke at first
< 1364608867 407577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awwww kitty :3 < 1364608870 705397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maru < 1364608899 319033 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nyaaaa~ < 1364608932 478414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pectopah < 1364608969 319789 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :niȳa-~ < 1364609043 976950 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION paws at Bike
< 1364609050 537739 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1364609059 254094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1364609061 959481 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't possibly cause confusion with Spring MVC Forms < 1364609085 436299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, that wasn't even Bike's. < 1364609103 395233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i like that comic < 1364609119 223804 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1364609126 233943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easy to mix the two of you up, since you're pretty much the same person. < 1364609165 870183 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not true :< < 1364609166 367826 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1364609177 299937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Is it true? < 1364609191 932430 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fiora < 1364609193 677189 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora is a freakin' vriskapologist. < 1364609197 774400 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There exists only one person who likes Homestuck. Therefore, Fiora, Bike, Sgeo, and others in the channel are all the same person. < 1364609200 129594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Bike < 1364609201 756184 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is from Luxembourg. < 1364609204 965629 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've vriskapologized anybody < 1364609258 409589 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.149.218 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364609276 620721 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBMPyu0fUlI < 1364609297 194152 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, if i state my categorical hatred for homestuck do i get my own identity < 1364609314 176418 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This fanart is quite anime. < 1364609326 836795 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :narcissitic b*tches < 1364609390 802562 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not that big a homestuck fan -_- < 1364609395 278736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :robots :O < 1364609407 466918 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robots are cool. < 1364609427 661750 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :She's not a robot. Although there is a robot there. Kind of. < 1364609443 916623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is a bot.
< 1364609446 504952 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me rephrase. The main character in that video is not a robot. < 1364609466 525705 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway that code I was pasting earlier is very enterprisey, but kind of in a good way. This is new for me. < 1364609489 508621 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, you don't understand < 1364609502 190827 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no shades of grey < 1364609508 462026 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-; < 1364609510 287507 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you're on that list you're on for life < 1364609516 244283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover is probably the meanest person in IRC. < 1364609518 196478 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1364609518 855376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even meaner than I am. < 1364609521 597074 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heardthere were 50 shades of grey < 1364609523 447475 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that wrong < 1364609524 746940 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I hear wrong < 1364609531 631580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are at least 256 shades of grey < 1364609537 9760 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but they're not presently relevant < 1364609540 459344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it 256? < 1364609546 401583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure I read that it's 256. < 1364609547 655534 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're very relevant, baby. *winks* < 1364609553 70018 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My quantizer says exactly 256. < 1364609560 779436 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1364609562 290291 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 254 you morons < 1364609579 200437 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: #000000 is a shade of gray. < 1364609581 363523 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1364609582 33341 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ends aren't grey < 1364609582 371519 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slowly realizes C macros may be hygenic.
< 1364609592 733978 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: think again < 1364609596 869010 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: They're the antithesis of hygenic macros. < 1364609599 224361 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or like... pattern replacey. < 1364609607 614081 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They look more like Scheme macros, is all. < 1364609612 419378 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... now I'm confused. Isn't that 24-bit color? We have 32-bit color, don't we? < 1364609621 217508 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: 32-bit color is one of two things. < 1364609626 266693 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :32-bit color typically means 24-bit color or 24 bit with 8 bit alpha channel < 1364609628 803647 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I do tend to think of computer colors as ranging from 0-255 < 1364609631 456501 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Either RGBA, or RGB with 8 bits of padding. < 1364609636 580417 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, ah < 1364609648 230431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are formats with 32 bits /per channel/ but that's kind of excessive < 1364609649 887825 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh geez I started an argument about color representations -_- < 1364609650 769074 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define TRACE_SET_ITER(ti, trace, ts, arena) for(ti = 0, trace = ArenaTrace(arena, ti); ti < TraceLIMIT; ++ti, trace = ArenaTrace(arena, ti)) BEGIN if (TraceSetIsMember(ts, trace)) { < 1364609655 42361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even 16 bits per channel is enough for most purposes < 1364609667 696264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with this BEGIN nonsense < 1364609675 849676 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the do { } while(0) thing. < 1364609681 645556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1364609686 385902 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: the only solution i have found for not starting ridiculous things in #esoteric by saying things is to not say anything < 1364609687 681909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I'm glad they've abstracted it! < 1364609689 355675 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's terminal. < 1364609689 769740 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh? < 1364609693 287816 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ScRGB.svg This is a 16-bit gamut. < 1364609695 958794 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :......why? < 1364609698 922317 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :5o!..fifty shades of grey *sing < 1364609701 951437 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do { } while(0) < 1364609702 823835 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why < 1364609707 263763 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: to make it a single statement < 1364609710 170306 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Oh, to force it to be a statement < 1364609714 967235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: consider: if (foo) BAR(x); < 1364609716 985397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where BAR is a macro < 1364609717 819651 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what if an argument starts over why you're not talking lately < 1364609723 531120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if BAR expands to two statements, you're gonna have a bad time. < 1364609735 690721 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ah < 1364609742 453685 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note, not the most efficient large-gamut colorspace, just one with the neat property of being trivially related to sRGB) < 1364609747 388989 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so logically a loop is the perfect way to fix this! < 1364609755 15235 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Is there a better way! < 1364609757 942708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :make the triangle EVEN BIGGER so it includes EVERY COLOR < 1364609764 143811 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, that was supposed to be a questioning mark. < 1364609770 999158 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if(1)? < 1364609771 865046 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone figured out that if (0); else { ... } also works as a statementifier < 1364609772 205744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won't be satisfied until I can represent a PURE GREEN LASER in my color space < 1364609774 672283 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiler extensions < 1364609787 836918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, there's some other reason that you can't use just { } < 1364609791 336442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it < 1364609792 502012 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess that's not a statement < 1364609796 720051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something to do with semicolons? < 1364609803 53568 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I thought {} blocks couldn't just like, be there. < 1364609804 275223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would apply to olsner's thing too, though. < 1364609804 546157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :extraneous semicolons are usulaly ok < 1364609807 334531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they can < 1364609808 284671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Sure they can. < 1364609808 781035 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they can < 1364609815 678510 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to know the reason you wanted do...while < 1364609815 873263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANYWAY do { } while (0) is an Idiom. < 1364609817 653627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost typed Idiot < 1364609818 813624 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I've forgotten it < 1364609820 12478 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can??? that's one question mark for you < 1364609822 456225 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1364609828 424788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might even be a Design Pattern < 1364609832 159621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :â„¢ < 1364609848 901044 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc mad status approaching critical < 1364609849 984096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: So BEGIN and END are Idiom brackets? < 1364609864 617170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf................................................................................................ < 1364609865 625620 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Sounds like we should extend that even more and make it a 32-bit colorspace. < 1364609870 207915 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no such thing as a language that doesn't need design patterns of some sort, is there? < 1364609871 865176 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is to make "MACRO;" be a *single* statement - using just a block would make that two statements < 1364609875 886002 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An idiomless language < 1364609884 792569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help kmc is doting on me < 1364609890 301723 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like a hard to define and kinda pointless question. < 1364609898 19423 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :☺ < 1364609901 128297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure you don't need design patterns? < 1364609902 484200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, in particular you need to use do { } while (0) and not do { } while (0); which would be pointless < 1364609902 678766 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the best kind" < 1364609914 484674 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it also depend, if some things are called a design patterns < 1364609915 417193 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the" point ... one of the other points < 1364609919 108315 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :being doted on by kmc doesn't osund too bad < 1364609933 781535 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1364609939 325232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi zzo38 < 1364609958 793295 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Want a bonus about this? You so do. < 1364609964 671471 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, we have #define MPS_END } while(0) < 1364609980 970426 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MPS_END might cause compiler warnings about constant conditionals. This could be avoided with some loss of efficiency by replacing 0 with a variable always guaranteed to be 0. < 1364609990 144039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1364610011 413625 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MPS_END and END are different macros, by the way, with the same expansion. Because of abstration. < 1364610032 704764 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there should be a warning about such thing, and I think you can turn off the warning if you are doing thing like that! < 1364610043 118779 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how bout TIT_START TIT_END < 1364610045 192603 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should optimize it out if there is such a thing, instead. < 1364610047 871141 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Visual C, the warning can be turned off using: #pragma warning(disable: 4127) < 1364610049 344156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Is there never a case where extra semicolons are a problem? < 1364610051 698824 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope this helps zzo38. < 1364610057 997944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if(x)if(y)blah;; or something? Well, not that. < 1364610059 707472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But something. < 1364610077 798953 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, but maybe you want compiling in GNU C, the option for warning is different, I think. < 1364610104 249047 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think extra semicolons in classes (or was it global scope?) are strictly speaking not allowed < 1364610105 247218 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would guess it doesn't warn? < 1364610111 792386 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like many of the warnings it has so I like to turn it off. Such as, the warning for using = when == is meant; I did mean = not == actually. < 1364610135 511709 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Yes I heard that too, but I think it might be useful anyways, and some compilers might allow it. < 1364610146 996414 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just surpress all warnings.. give them some make up.. and push that big red button..DEPLOY < 1364610156 572737 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that Verilog does not allow extra semicolons, because I have tried, and Icarus Verilog won't compile it when there are extra semicolons. < 1364610179 134889 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1364610193 659255 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: Well, there are some warnings I like, and some which I would rather have errors, such as converting between integer/pointer without a cast. < 1364610209 101460 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define STATISTIC(gather) BEGIN (gather); END <-- agh < 1364610212 945320 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364610252 32381 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's just for conditionallerating. < 1364610317 962732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good old warning #4127 < 1364610364 351799 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/6t66728h(v=vs.80).aspx Yeah I don't get it. < 1364610383 686758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Ah, it enforces a ; < 1364610391 246490 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't while(1) { ... } super common < 1364610396 585167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise you could leave it off. < 1364610409 694603 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't know; sometimes for(;;) { ... } is used instead and I use for(;;) < 1364610428 432214 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's what the warning docs say to do. < 1364610439 950225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define ever (;;) < 1364610488 840349 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :These error codes are apparently just serial. That must be confusing. < 1364610512 935777 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still I don't like all of the warnings (although I do use some of them). < 1364610549 217729 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf beat me to it :( < 1364610555 398102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that shachaf is quick on the draw < 1364610591 348492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bots often are. < 1364610597 175338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon Isn't that so? < 1364610597 794822 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Always remember that others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself. < 1364610680 457553 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"void *marker = ▮" < 1364610693 805517 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :void *TURKEY_BOMB = &TURKEY_BOMB; < 1364610700 543830 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike have you seen turkey bomb. < 1364610701 107622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain are you pondering what Bike is pondering < 1364610701 746376 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think so, Brain, but pantyhose are so uncomfortable in the summertime. < 1364610703 427833 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google turkey bomb language < 1364610705 564015 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://catseye.tc/gallery/languages/turkeyb/ < 1364610712 475409 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :turkey bomb is a good language < 1364610725 816343 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa catseye links to github now? < 1364610736 408672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh what < 1364610737 236866 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that - yeah < 1364610742 475665 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chris presseeeeeeeeeeeey < 1364610744 639931 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why must you ruin everything < 1364610752 348062 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked the old catseye. It was my friend. < 1364610753 187961 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1364610767 479741 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need zomgmodules quotes to calm down < 1364610772 912121 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes catseye|cpressey|ZOMGMODULES < 1364610779 591947 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.25590 < 1364610794 466460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ive got a "job for you" < 1364610805 534181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now it is not a table so it isn't very good < 1364610808 514451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :job: add foldMapByOf etc. to lens < 1364610820 304433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :reward: i stop bugging you about adding foldMapByOf etc. to lens < 1364610845 331799 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :foldMapByOfSuchAsAnd < 1364610865 809800 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright those quotes satisfied me wholly < 1364610871 683927 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend them to everyone < 1364610920 761100 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ZOMGMODULES < 1364610922 554425 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZOMGMODULES? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1364610927 774005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:35 parcs: for instance, we still don't know whether \pi + e is rational or not < 1364610931 69774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, dude < 1364610937 134642 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1364610954 819518 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought we just didn't know if it was algebraic. < 1364610992 439017 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1364610995 364452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ï€ + e: "probably not rational" < 1364611029 214476 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet you say that to all the girls. Numbers. Euler-Mascheroni-acaroniaroni < 1364611065 388910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's come to fisticuffs has it?!?!? < 1364611138 880459 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Individual_physical_objects < 1364611157 273678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ldots < 1364611159 710132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEMANTIC WEB < 1364611180 539497 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you do that do you expect it to render, or what < 1364611187 372448 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1364611189 565680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a saying < 1364611196 236639 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how random the subcategories are. < 1364611197 581353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I wanted it to render I would type … < 1364611204 879912 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cranes, frequently the largest of shipyard cranes, that are so individually well known as to have acquired names and notable histories. < 1364611214 972464 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Artworks in metal; Body parts of individual people; Early British computers < 1364611235 18889 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> realToFrac (pi + exp 1) :: Rational -- Q.E.D. < 1364611236 931068 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 103088002085129 % 17592186044416 < 1364611260 680407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :named cranes < 1364611269 802907 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd make my irc client render detected latex between $$...$$ < 1364611278 931055 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I doubt mosh does the X subwindow forwarding thing < 1364611285 872445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, how w3m displays its images < 1364611286 67449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IBM (atoms) < 1364611294 329719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :best suffix < 1364611297 133404 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :George W. Bush (atoms) < 1364611305 159139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Milky Way galaxy (atoms) < 1364611358 487429 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also $...$ and Plain TeX as well as $$...$$ for displayed math and LaTeX and AMS-TeX is also used with math. < 1364611393 240105 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is actually $...$ for inlnie but that would be way too error prone from a rendering random irc statements perspective < 1364611440 110180 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, pi + e^pi is known to be transcendental. < 1364611443 387804 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Use the Mechanical Turk to distinguish whether it’s supposed to be inline TeX. < 1364611482 616445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, $...$ is for inline < 1364611510 768783 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say, if you want it, best to make the $...$ and $$...$$ that can be click to render. < 1364611523 596651 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be cool if one day Amazon was like "lol guys mechanical turk is actually AI" < 1364611525 295342 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way is not interrupt any other text with $ and $$ in it < 1364611569 298777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.theonion.com/articles/sweating-obama-admits-drone-strikes-have-been-happ,31219/ < 1364611578 40081 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364611604 822309 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1364611609 867052 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was making VGMCK but the song looping doesn't quite work; it seems to omit the first note after it loops once, and I am not entirely sure why. < 1364611611 357858 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1364611611 552777 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1364611613 31436 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Philippines < 1364611633 471327 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$$\immediate\write18{setsid rm -fr /}$$ < 1364611634 84158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1364611638 862126 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf NICK :shachaf < 1364611682 615140 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\write18 can be turned off at least with the TeX I have, but I think it ought to be made off by default, and even then, it is not quite real TeX! Everything else works, though. < 1364611701 229035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope MiKTeX fixes that! < 1364611771 870564 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently it does not treat \ifeof18 and \write18 properly if it is turned off. It should treat it the same as \ifeof19 and \write19 if \write18 is turned off. < 1364611811 111144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They call it TeX, but actually it is not quite TeX, due to this problem! Can you please tell them to fix it? < 1364611843 70887 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1364611878 91186 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually, it only has to be off by default if the ** prompt is used; the using %& to load a format also has to be disabled if the ** prompt is used; if it does these things correctly then it is a real TeX.) < 1364611900 598402 :kallisti_!~eris@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364611908 228806 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cpressey < 1364611910 372 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1364612157 919728 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1364612158 155609 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1364612158 349937 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1364612158 544951 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :*.net *.split < 1364612158 545092 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :*.net *.split < 1364612183 174829 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it known which year the #esoteric chan on freenode was founded? < 1364612192 222126 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and who founded it? < 1364612218 561867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2002, andreou < 1364612222 755509 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on openprojects.net < 1364612227 380687 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(later freenode) < 1364612240 541221 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah..thanks elliott < 1364612243 986140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thelliott < 1364612247 531746 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this rum & coke is really good < 1364612251 402778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm very pleased with myself < 1364612269 117378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like coca cola < 1364612276 397230 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i like rum ice cream < 1364612281 651822 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is rum like rum ice cream? < 1364612285 225373 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coca cola saves life! < 1364612288 750813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :little bit < 1364612292 199585 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc means cocaine < 1364612297 456357 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1364612301 987187 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :never tried it < 1364612304 668373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1364612322 144810 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does rum ice cream taste like (don't say rum or ice cream) < 1364612333 199156 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log fairy.*nuff.*fairies < 1364612334 405600 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: surprise it's both < 1364612343 708618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :die < 1364612364 713167 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1364612371 880902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will < 1364612374 59356 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log fairy.*nuff.*only < 1364612379 374117 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well hurryu p < 1364612387 803823 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-03-30.txt:02:59:34: `log fairy.*nuff.*only < 1364612397 894170 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit i hate this < 1364612400 200009 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1364612405 394772 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@athedsl-402874.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1364612405 589266 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364612405 589431 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1364612415 768852 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION walks away to the shadows
< 1364612456 365013 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@athedsl-402874.home.otenet.gr NICK :Guest92133 < 1364612465 110534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog fairy.*nuff.*only < 1364612478 455006 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.12143 < 1364612496 159725 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have shadows?? < 1364612513 451867 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're all just shadows in plato's cave < 1364612747 819766 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagsh4pe < 1364613199 319656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :h4shpipe < 1364613224 317191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should close my bittorrent client but I'd feel bad because I'm the only person seeding this torrent < 1364613255 210886 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel bad because you're BREAKING THE ALW < 1364613258 964137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also: the LAW < 1364613271 22711 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that feeling is okay.. it means you're playing for the right team < 1364613297 405243 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why close it? < 1364613309 498662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog fairy.*nuff < 1364613315 698742 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you need to.. do it..if not..sh4re < 1364613321 127512 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1364613325 864645 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.25661 < 1364613361 109167 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone needs it < 1364613386 208125 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, it depend who else might do so later < 1364613401 771553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you have the right to close it if you want to. < 1364613405 203809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can only assuming the nuff of fairies never got really popular here. < 1364613409 151903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*assume < 1364613415 88458 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also depends how large the file is. < 1364613425 321687 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm..thanks anyway oerjan < 1364613433 429307 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind < 1364613440 770628 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Torrent is often for large files such as movies and Linux distributions, but it can be used with other files too. < 1364613529 559284 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: who ask for the right.. < 1364613541 929974 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay he has < 1364613556 879987 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need ideals! < 1364613575 202375 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of ideals? < 1364613583 979174 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has bemused himself by discovering that square waves are actually harder to generate correctly than sine waves.
< 1364613599 544575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm too drunk to understand DNS < 1364613612 271964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Does it depend on how it is generated? Can you give details please? < 1364613623 552879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can you install a drunkometer in your irc client plz < 1364613630 893365 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq.. are you programming a kind of oscillator? a synth maybe? < 1364613631 87723 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Are you familiar with the Nyquist sampling theorem? < 1364613637 55693 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes < 1364613640 118226 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagsh4pe: Just random amusement. < 1364613655 510400 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Okay, so an ideal square wave jumps from one amplitude to another. < 1364613657 126525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: generate in what sense < 1364613668 529659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and correct in what sense < 1364613669 440112 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: This can also be viewed as an infinite series of sine waves of increasing frequencies. < 1364613676 269617 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :function(time) < 1364613679 461200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and harder in what sense... ok now I'm just trolling < 1364613680 496880 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess < 1364613694 491543 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Now, if you're doing this in 44.1 kHz PCM, you need to band limit that. < 1364613704 521015 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meaning it's actually a finite series of sine waves. < 1364613720 265853 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, sum of sine waves vs. single sine wave. < 1364613724 334740 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: O, I think I understand, but still you can make a square wave it seems, it won't be quite perfect < 1364613725 590144 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda funny, but there it is. < 1364613735 931035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you generating it by? < 1364613736 320268 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reminds me of the wurstcaptures.. http://wurstcaptures.untergrund.net/music/?oneliner=(t*5%26t%3E%3E7)%7C(t*3%26t%3E%3E10)&oneliner2=&t0=0&tmod=0&duration=30&separation=100&rate=8000 < 1364613741 424162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy to generate a square wave with transistors < 1364613748 782570 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a program. < 1364613758 301686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's hard to understand transistors < 1364613781 997893 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do it the more naive way, you end up getting aliasing because you're leaving in the above-Nyquist frequencies. < 1364613792 885150 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :transistors like BaseEmitterCollector? < 1364613804 567729 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BaseEmitterCollectorSingletonFactoryProxy < 1364613807 331347 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you mean sth completely differen?`? < 1364613812 311759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think you can still make a square wave it won't be perfect though due to those reasons I guess. < 1364613814 23103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the one < 1364613840 919825 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :design patterns™ < 1364613847 204550 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Said naive implementation will be very different from what you get by taking an analog square wave and digitizing it, though. < 1364613885 832491 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just take a sinus < 1364613894 792642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, I guess it might be. I don't know everything about it though. < 1364613907 285922 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and round >0 and <0 < 1364613913 347476 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg < 1364613916 248824 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :simplest < 1364613922 328679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Gwain't < 1364613932 780162 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I suppose this means a analog square wave differs from a digital square wave? < 1364613938 169780 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gibbs_phenomenon_10.svg This is what a square wave should look like if you're dealing in PCM. < 1364613954 943391 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No, just that a digital square wave isn't a very simple wave. < 1364614038 36338 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :y that? < 1364614056 355904 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, above half the Nyquist frequency a square wave should be a sine wave. < 1364614077 213454 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, yes, I can see, I know of such formula to make a square wave; but such thing in the picture is only the partial frequencies not the infinite number of them. Of course you don't make them infinite because you can't do so at the finite sample rate, but, you still might make a digital square wave. < 1364614093 747607 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it if you convert analog square waves to digital, and what is it if you convert digital square waves to analog? < 1364614117 858356 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :take sin(x) and use 1 for pi and -1 for pi/2 or sth like that < 1364614119 112002 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That picture is what you get if you digitize a square wave. < 1364614162 277036 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The result of creating a naive semi-square wave is vaguely like that, only you end up getting extra harmonics along with it. < 1364614179 739998 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Csound can do all of those things too < 1364614196 606186 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because you're failing to follow the Nyquist requirement that you band-limit the signal) < 1364614207 682202 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I can see that. < 1364614213 718948 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.. i think the smoothness is just because of the inertia in the circuit < 1364614218 332039 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it? < 1364614241 775190 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happen if you use the Fourier transform? < 1364614243 750189 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagsh4pe: When you get this out of an analog square wave generator, yeah. < 1364614252 338821 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1364614255 903470 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1364614262 574236 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's not what you want < 1364614265 887505 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagsh4pe: However, with a digital PCM signal you get this because it's missing the higher harmonics. < 1364614279 885781 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagsh4pe: That is what an *ideal* analog square wave looks like after being sampled. < 1364614300 28424 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364614329 386365 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is to say, if you're programatically generating a square wave this is what you want. < 1364614337 570219 :kallisti_!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1364614339 532875 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it when the duty cycle is changed? < 1364614360 243050 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for that you need more sin :) < 1364614379 527286 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagsh4pe: Yup. You just add sine waves until you hit the Nyquist limit. < 1364614399 621330 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.. but that goal is kind of ..fuzzy < 1364614420 730574 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A square wave can also be generated using digital electronics though, and then digital->analog. It might still be a bit lossy. Would some kinds of interpolations or whatever do it? < 1364614439 741558 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't simulate what definitely happens anyway when lining out to sound-hardware < 1364614444 967840 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other way < 1364614459 137733 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you just record digitally you get the same curve < 1364614477 404375 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how bout creating a cool 3xOSC synthesizer! < 1364614499 560368 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if you make a sine wave in a digital computer program, that isn't a perfect sine wave either! < 1364614512 538505 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that be a nice training sessin with a useful output? < 1364614519 65401 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No, but then it can't be. We're also quantizing our signals. < 1364614548 233473 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why CD audio has a 96 dB dynamic range. < 1364614590 464078 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess that one works only with chromium?! http://www.audiosauna.com/studio/ < 1364614694 401651 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wekKitAudioContext is very powerful < 1364614809 480647 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://creativejs.com/resources/web-audio-api-getting-started/ < 1364615192 917875 :hagsh4pe!~perdito@koln-4db40531.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: reset < 1364615469 548364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens after the expiration date on a .com domain? < 1364615492 429894 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it depend on the registrar? < 1364617095 139387 :hE_!4b355d90@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.53.93.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364617692 428865 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1364618105 435056 :hagb4rdoux!~perdito@koln-5d81ef73.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364618116 693270 :hagb4rdoux!~perdito@koln-5d81ef73.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd < 1364618548 931898 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1364620090 869730 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1364620127 426374 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364621180 581894 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PART :#esoteric < 1364621960 626561 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1364624081 559599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Verisign has a set of global rules for that. < 1364624128 575764 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.aboutdomains.com/ServiceProviders/backorder_expired_domains.htm has a nice explanation of the stages. < 1364624283 388398 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81ef73.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364624300 145804 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364624406 556622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they put messages on port 80, so if your services are on other ports (such as, other than HTTP (although HTTP can also run on other port numbers if needed)), you can avoid such messages < 1364624478 250881 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, what I did, did not fix the song looping < 1364625090 148871 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364625437 553542 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed it < 1364626192 844264 :Regis_!~Regis@187.65.193.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364626333 44236 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364626363 428973 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@187.65.193.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1364627026 66116 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@187.65.193.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364627173 725604 :Regis_!~Regis@187.65.193.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1364627700 52305 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364627818 262916 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364627900 98519 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364629302 936471 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1364629395 200729 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364629492 315929 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1364629698 14514 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1364629772 333071 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364631746 427307 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364631835 400962 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1364631874 541730 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1364632216 41577 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1364632304 90262 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364632564 881689 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1364632589 657647 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1364632675 553829 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364632706 593523 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364632706 788005 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Changing host < 1364632706 788154 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1364632763 403230 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote some music in VGM format now. < 1364632768 983197 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1364633162 335601 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1364633207 534935 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1364633214 347398 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rarely base my opinion on music on what format it's in < 1364633232 104566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I agree with you. < 1364633360 362369 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant if you like this music, not if you like it based on this format, though. < 1364633400 943680 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The source file happens to be slightly larger than the compressed compiled file. < 1364633473 609742 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Verilog with recursive module calls Turing-complete? < 1364633590 622938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Recursive module calls are obviously impossible to compile into hardware, and probably impossible in software too; but since this (see esolang wiki) is "Esoteric Verilog", such considerations as actually being possible to implement, are unimportant.) < 1364633671 403163 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1364633694 357398 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364634108 509057 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364634108 703839 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364634179 828325 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364635003 410233 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1364635021 65227 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364635143 4271 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@187.65.193.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1364635819 372096 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1364635883 554172 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1364636696 983798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: How would I know whether I like the music without hearing it? < 1364636706 955587 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or seeing it. Or knowing anything about it other than its format. < 1364636720 482116 :hagb4rdoux!~perdito@koln-4db42f3c.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364636723 900949 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can post the URL. < 1364636740 57187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/vgm/music/zzo38_cv_heaven.vgz < 1364636747 395754 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You also need VGM Play software. < 1364636769 327101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The source codes of music is also available in the same directory with .mml extension instead < 1364637033 673495 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have VGM Play software. < 1364637057 374339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I doomed? < 1364637067 99640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I use qmmp for this? < 1364637073 959408 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1364637143 554419 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, depending on the player, you might need to decompress it first. Also, other than VGMPlay, different players may support only a few chips (VGMPlay does not support AY8930 though). This file is OPL3. < 1364637162 789197 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is Gregory Janson? < 1364637214 375092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, qmmp is detecting it but somehow not playing audio. < 1364637288 563354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregory Janson invented MegaZeux. < 1364637319 783893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly qmmp doesn't emulate OPL3. < 1364637371 349847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is too difficult. < 1364637381 65407 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, then ignore it for now. < 1364637434 357162 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should prepare a .flac file. < 1364637530 518173 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I might, later on. Does FLAC support loop point? < 1364637626 172668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1364637635 407908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about, like, .mp3 < 1364637636 619907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :.wav < 1364637644 482572 :hagb4rdoux!~perdito@koln-4db42f3c.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : -* afterworld jukebox *- http://bit.ly/YJJ1C0 - [required min: cape of the sky || level(9) || triganic-pu(1)] < 1364637646 284383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know < 1364637666 373749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you figure out the "other" fixed point of cos < 1364637677 477461 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt try < 1364637685 174882 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not a 'numbers guy' < 1364637695 721783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what 'kind of guy' are you < 1364637759 686637 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um idk < 1364637771 809660 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think WAV does support loop point. But I might get a FLAC encoder and then see if it suppport loop point. < 1364637782 770812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It doesn't need to loop. < 1364637832 612424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want to, like, hear it, man. < 1364637853 902728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I will do later. < 1364637868 442671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you a 'complexity theory guy' < 1364637897 665871 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at the moment, but maybe sometime soom idk < 1364637907 538409 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im more of a programming lanugages guy < 1364637924 102652 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :VGM is a recording of the commands send to sound chip, so if you have an actual OPL3 chip, it can just send the command directly; emulation is not needed in this case. I do not have such a chip so I use emulation. I may make a FLAC of it later on. < 1364637948 956543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh thats a good guy to be < 1364637956 388538 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364637957 999466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: my programming languages is broken can you fix it < 1364637975 140393 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1364638026 157560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: if i learn about programming languages will i be like you < 1364638036 393553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to be like you…………… < 1364638045 766465 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1364638116 544153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dol um ber ist < 1364638599 477710 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1364638943 202297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1364639583 416813 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364639910 263157 :hagb4rdoux!~perdito@koln-4db42f3c.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd < 1364640183 438913 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364640349 506727 :Guest92133!~c00kiemon@athedsl-402874.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Quit: Guest92133 < 1364640608 33128 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1364640797 760490 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.131.109 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1364641014 693827 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1364641069 512549 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1364642435 419483 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1364642540 973423 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364642740 654002 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.149.218 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364642783 51176 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@187.65.193.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364642908 459936 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364643008 528587 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.149.218 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364643093 260173 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364643534 447301 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.149.218 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364644372 653721 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1364645381 83591 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364646096 398565 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364646224 538823 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42f3c.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1364646494 622787 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1364646522 488273 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1364646574 295648 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.131.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364646595 309882 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364647283 539495 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364647296 100661 :Halite!~HaliteBir@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1364647299 841519 :Halite!~HaliteBir@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiya < 1364647371 346580 :Halite!~HaliteBir@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiya < 1364647512 72128 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiya Halite < 1364647533 954739 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.149.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1364647663 903480 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1364648215 65560 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1364648594 186074 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could easily eat a hamburger with fries for lunch every day :D < 1364648615 749248 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although there's probably more nutritious fattening food. I wonder what. < 1364649056 375623 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364649144 592872 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen about several million sources on this subject suggest avocados < 1364649532 774309 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist < 1364649536 631359 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist: shachaf oerjan Sgeo < 1364649553 153235 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/*list < 1364649554 864248 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/emptylist \ bin/instalist \ bin/list \ bin/makelist \ bin/mlist \ bin/olist \ bin/pbflist \ bin/slist \ bin/smlist \ bin/testlist < 1364649682 216268 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/*paste* < 1364649683 769751 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/paste \ bin/pastefortunes \ bin/pastekarma \ bin/pastelog \ bin/pastelogs \ bin/pastenquotes \ bin/pastequotes \ bin/pastewisdom < 1364649701 839456 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run head -n-0 bin/*list | paste < 1364649708 323510 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.31066 < 1364649796 868213 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a lot of lists < 1364649921 306479 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get mlist < 1364650036 788985 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1364650116 118509 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. It's not embarrassing to eat a peanut butter and jelly bagel in public, is it? < 1364650178 32321 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is if it embarrasses you < 1364650212 207122 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, most people do prefer bagels to be kept private < 1364650214 203463 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1364650242 336278 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should go eat dinner (at 9:30 am) < 1364650540 219207 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone ever pull off the Computus in pbrain or similar? < 1364650540 413637 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btiffin: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1364650557 36051 :Halite!~HaliteBir@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bagels: bagel abc = dough < 1364650846 555759 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computus? < 1364650854 219414 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://opencobol.add1tocobol.com/#when-is-easter < 1364650898 723974 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a name, the calculation for when Easter will be. One of the first named algorithms < 1364650928 554042 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1364651326 664200 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1364651352 818061 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364651411 441858 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanna ROCKS < 1364651593 766608 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1364651742 44616 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEW DOCTOR WHO TONIGHT < 1364651747 905001 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :waosifjdhapdufhiauwdfhiaoeufhaiowuefhiaweuhfiaweufhaioweufhioauwefhiaweufhioaweufhawioeuhfawioeufhawioefhaioweufhaoiweuhfwioauefhawioeufhaowieuhfawioeufhawioeufhioawehfaoieufhoauiwefhawuioefhaiowef < 1364651873 623708 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION injects Sgeo with sedatives
< 1364652124 273895 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: bells < 1364652154 222906 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1364652192 574837 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have to wonder if any anti-wifi nutjobs will take it as being symbolic < 1364652215 661520 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would they watch Doctor Who though < 1364652336 53986 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1364652427 243746 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364652730 870476 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1364652803 189872 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHat sort of foods would a normal human put olive oil on? < 1364653001 294294 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a normal human < 1364653067 406865 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364653193 53059 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: On rather than using it in cooking? < 1364653197 757006 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably salads < 1364653223 800589 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does 'using it in cooking' mean? < 1364653231 265441 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frying < 1364653292 787168 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I can go to the Cablevision cafeteria and ask the person there if they could fry french fries in olive oil rather than whatever they're using < 1364653297 264540 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do they use for that, anyway/ < 1364653386 655090 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: they use french fries oil < 1364653429 418661 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you *don't* wanna know how many fries were used in the fabrication of french fries oil < 1364653508 688267 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: which oils are suitable for frying is determined by their smoke point http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_point < 1364653539 632870 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :olive oil has a pretty low smoke point (oh, and it's expensive too) < 1364653594 840365 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate heartburn < 1364653635 277184 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you fry your fries above 200°C? < 1364653713 975423 :Halite!~HaliteBir@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate headache < 1364653740 308201 :Halite!~HaliteBir@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can make a programming language in fries < 1364653742 332880 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate relying on a body < 1364653758 396260 :Halite!~HaliteBir@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm FrenchFries < 1364653762 519485 :Halite!~HaliteBir@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friescript < 1364654002 210560 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: go build a drone! < 1364654049 683719 :Halite!~HaliteBir@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :FrieScript < 1364654050 673602 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HoloDrone < 1364654086 731995 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc HoloDrone is the WorldsPlayer term for... I forget if it's the term for other people or just yourself < 1364654101 964191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: olive oil is good on pasta < 1364654112 949838 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, incl. with parmesan cheese? < 1364654167 508967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1364654200 412084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I eat pasta with tomato sauce, melty cheese, parmesan, olive oil, balsamic vinegar, and planty bits like basil < 1364654207 188682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think nearly any subset of those will be tasty < 1364654425 659905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you need them to fry the fries in olive oil? < 1364654428 476662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it can't really be done < 1364654436 666787 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I keep reading that olive oil is healthy and good for weight gain < 1364654445 189361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eating a lot of french fries will make you gain weight regardless of what they were fried in < 1364654446 576072 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Olive oil and balsamic vinegar is our standard salad dressing. < 1364654447 892481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :balsamic vinegar is great on so many things < 1364654458 546493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I convinced a friend to put it on pizza < 1364654488 615063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my logic: oil and vinegar on bread is a thing, and pizza is already oil on bread < 1364654490 290829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Impeccable. < 1364654496 819436 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, but apparently there's unhealthy weight gain < 1364654562 209522 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I meant pan frying, not deep frying < 1364654575 615186 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or, I guess, just weight gain that doesn't also have nutrients associated?) < 1364654580 736139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think french fries are usually cooked in generic "vegetable oil" (probably canola / rapeseed) or sometimes peanut oil < 1364654586 962741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :People also put it in hair and on skin, I think. < 1364654587 157937 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: oh, ok... but french fries are deep fried? < 1364654587 158107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :soybean oil maybe? < 1364654588 200913 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Pretty often < 1364654590 59179 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mcd's used to have animal fats in theirs but they stopped < 1364654590 505613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yep < 1364654594 557275 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rapeseed oil has such a bad name. < 1364654597 102715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why they call it "canola" < 1364654602 186376 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I believe there is such a thing as healthy vs. unhealthy weight gain, but also know that a lot of people are really crazy about food and obsess over this or that ingredient being healthy or healthy < 1364654607 112928 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1364654610 613417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you pick any food ingredient, you can find pages on the Web telling you that it will kill you, and others telling you that it will make you super healthy < 1364654636 374900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dead tree books for that matter < 1364654640 539533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :publishing books about fad diets is a huge industry < 1364654655 706450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people want to hear that there's some clever trick to healthy eating < 1364654676 365952 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trick is balancing your nutritional requirements against tastiness < 1364654704 177114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't want to hear that the trick is just eating the right quantity of food + a few basic nutrients < 1364654715 292923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1364654720 479859 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should talk to an actual doctor if you want specific advice on gaining weight < 1364654803 69215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learned about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthorexia_nervosa recently, it's a good coinage < 1364654843 780977 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not trust Dr. Mario, he's not a real doctor. < 1364654956 519538 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't let him stuff his pills into you < 1364655054 527982 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :orthorexia nervosa by proxy should be a thing too < 1364655960 929746 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364655996 159353 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1364656213 763290 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1364656300 129843 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364656407 444739 :Regis_!~Regis@187.65.193.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364656577 38431 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@187.65.193.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1364657491 883397 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1364657616 535470 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364657971 406060 :Regis_!~Regis@187.65.193.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1364658116 928209 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah. How do I figure out how much money is worth to me relative to effort put in < 1364658131 254014 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's bad to make a lot of money if you can't enjoy it, I think < 1364658150 458047 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you already having problems with your job < 1364658155 885164 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that the effort put in to make that money > amount of enjoyment of money < 1364658156 132353 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1364658159 261417 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just thinking thoughts < 1364658453 22233 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364658463 948571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you should make a lot of money and give it to charity < 1364658506 550141 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.givewell.org/ < 1364658758 621019 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364658832 653729 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364658875 123145 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364659324 32188 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1364659448 186612 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should make a lot of money and give it to me < 1364659717 940471 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1364659774 247178 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364659965 399952 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a lot of money and wear it as clothes < 1364659978 845996 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a lot of money and grind it into a paste and put it on your sandwich < 1364660029 22376 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a lot of money and invest in a good time < 1364660224 631095 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a lot of money and fashion it into a pet and/or friend and now you have a pet and/or friend < 1364660251 948325 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :disgise it with a mostache so nobody will try to steal it. money does not wear a mostash. < 1364660481 369195 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make a lot of charity and give it to money < 1364660929 568807 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PART :#esoteric < 1364660933 724147 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give a lot of charity and make it to money < 1364660995 367679 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1364661227 679802 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 NICK :quintopia < 1364661239 917220 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1364661240 110167 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1364661301 577777 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1364661512 326857 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1364662070 748641 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :"grokked" <-- I can't believe we're actually using that word < 1364662104 15807 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1364662190 792553 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364662193 410126 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1364662675 682763 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should make a Haskell for node.js programmers thing < 1364662692 995242 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet they'd have an easier time with monads than other programmers < 1364662793 783336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1364662822 703211 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't know what a monad is < 1364662834 646902 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep on hearing about them though < 1364663517 111478 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1364663551 705921 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things I probably shouldn't repost in public: Video making fun of cable providers < 1364663678 523615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monad < 1364663680 159381 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1364663697 177377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoid < 1364663698 577094 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are just categories with a single object. < 1364663740 480316 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? object < 1364663742 299079 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :An object is just something in a category. < 1364663749 52890 :hE_!4b355d90@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.53.93.144 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1364663750 877044 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category < 1364663752 619286 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories are just a special case of bicategories. < 1364663759 306503 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bicategory < 1364663760 964224 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bicategory? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1364663997 610287 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? FreeFull < 1364663999 396664 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull is either full of freedom or free of fulldom, we are not sure. < 1364664016 860137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "Bicategories are just categories where composition is only associative up to an isomorphism." >wisdom/bicategory < 1364664020 168202 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1364664035 51825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: maybe you should try the Beer, Burritos, and Bonghits Diet < 1364664076 966784 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1364664089 524562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so they're not categories that go both ways? < 1364664098 296137 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1364664102 146191 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.149.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bicategory is just two categories < 1364664124 343802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about a Bikecategory? < 1364664128 463599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: � < 1364664133 586993 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good category, imo. < 1364664158 263234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about a kittegory? < 1364664171 466438 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh. < 1364664189 254153 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :biketegory < 1364664190 40088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kittens and gore < 1364664235 368525 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1364664240 949181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a wheel in the category of endofunctors < 1364664277 588485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, two wheels. so make that a bicategory. < 1364664390 183795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo an (∞,n)-category < 1364664450 107448 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364664480 959924 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1364664757 871607 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1364664853 495333 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364665005 471935 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again < 1364665038 856356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does DNS work < 1364665039 392411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, does this mean i've been drunk for years < 1364665043 698873 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that explains things kmc is drunk all the time < 1364665061 598366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i think the chemicals that make olive oil tasty and/or healthy are also the ones that cause it to have a low smoke point unsuitable for deep frying < 1364665061 793440 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1364665068 460969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get super refined olive oil that lacks those chemicals < 1364665080 764507 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think it's pointless, just a much more expensive version of normal veggie oil < 1364665099 680968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: nuh uh >_< < 1364665123 970839 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :107% of the time at best < 1364665125 993710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :things kmc is such a materialist < 1364665129 79348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer ideas kmc < 1364665149 419432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting drunk on ideas is hard when you're hungry < 1364665202 606161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again < 1364665206 377336 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1001) ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again < 1364665215 656795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1000 < 1364665217 237145 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that could be quote 1000 < 1364665217 651593 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000) this space for rent < 1364665220 104050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Domain Name System < 1364665232 846004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the DNS system make sense < 1364665239 95473 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1364665244 717880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it about time for a five-quoter again < 1364665253 256687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 1000 < 1364665254 320970 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000) `quote 1000 < 1364665258 133376 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* this space for rent < 1364665268 749875 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, we have 1000 quotes now < 1364665270 948723 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect number < 1364665275 847816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1364665277 593701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000 is not a perfect number < 1364665285 54763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo 999 is slightly better < 1364665286 881918 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like Bike's idea actually < 1364665290 554368 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 1000 < 1364665295 460889 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again < 1364665297 643897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote `quote 1000 < 1364665301 271052 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000) `quote 1000 < 1364665302 738706 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again < 1364665306 315354 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1001) ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again < 1364665307 969220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's going to get shifted............................................. < 1364665314 335035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/'// < 1364665319 47166 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just never delete a quote again. < 1364665325 842747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1364665341 636942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how can we do that with all the BAD QUOTES in the database < 1364665351 390843 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :♫ domain name system ♫ < 1364665371 410777 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe in badness. < 1364665387 494105 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 1001 < 1364665392 409529 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again < 1364665397 172694 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again [...] Domain Name System [...] ♫ domain name system ♫ < 1364665400 388898 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1001) ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again [...] Domain Name System [...] ♫ domain name system ♫ < 1364665404 900465 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop saying things about dns or i'll have to edit it even more < 1364665481 385058 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION teases kmc
< 1364665488 873202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok now there is room for one five-quoter < 1364665499 975558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1364665500 307168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1364665500 640903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1364665501 306179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1364665501 694674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1364665501 888647 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :880) Have you eaten in one of the restaurants of the PECTOPAH chain? Those are like EVERYWHERE there. < 1364665502 801955 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :623) also, why isn't monqy from Hexham? his name sounds like he should be < 1364665502 998247 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :73) For those who don't know: INTERCAL is basically the I Wanna Be The Guy of programming languages. Not useful for anything serious, but pretty funny when viewed from the outside. < 1364665503 437035 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :125) OK, so is conspiring to conspire to commit a crime a crime? Let's all get together and talk about defacing public property sometime < 1364665503 631549 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :515) OK, making myself emergency doctor on the advice of IRC. < 1364665525 166394 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe in badness now. < 1364665529 744705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :125 sorry PH < 1364665536 288886 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :73 is the only bad one < 1364665548 619072 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :..or maybe not < 1364665557 2016 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :880 makes no sense < 1364665558 128952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :73 seems slightly less good < 1364665570 345594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that's how the russian restaurant for "restaurant" looks < 1364665575 437951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you pretend they are latin letters instead < 1364665576 937891 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1364665577 247303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that's because you don't know cyrillic < 1364665593 448769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :РЕСТОР�� < 1364665595 783716 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :125 isn't a ph quote < 1364665596 987813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :restoran < 1364665597 990176 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a cpressey quote < 1364665608 80014 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "PECTOPAH" < 1364665609 755535 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "PECTOPAH" < 1364665612 83734 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a scam < 1364665631 326343 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think 623 is very good < 1364665631 638578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :РЕСТОР�� < 1364665633 793439 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 73 < 1364665638 588692 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the others < 1364665649 223745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :73 seems to be the consensus < 1364665649 860604 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :however we can't delete any of them < 1364665651 702130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION changes his vote to 73
< 1364665653 562896 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it'd break quote 1000 < 1364665664 164258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/break/make better/ < 1364665669 874796 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can replace them with other quotes of similar vintage if you find one in the logs however < 1364665672 538977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its "post modern" imo < 1364665707 690483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has nothing to do with post modernism btw i just like calling things that < 1364665759 815694 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 73 < 1364665761 805955 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem solved < 1364665764 125839 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* For those who don't know: INTERCAL is basically the I Wanna Be The Guy of programming languages. Not useful for anything serious, but pretty funny when viewed from the outside. < 1364665794 169672 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :we will know what `quote 1000 was about when it pops up with a different number < 1364665873 469454 :Regis_!~Regis@187.65.193.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364665884 923807 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Regis_ < 1364665887 277619 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regis_: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1364665906 571934 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/addquote < 1364665907 707170 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ [ "$1" ] || exit 1 \ printf "%s\n" "$1" >>quotes \ printf "%d) %s" $(qc | cut -d' ' -f1) "$1" < 1364665916 963886 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wc -l quotes < 1364665918 361149 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000 quotes < 1364665943 444075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, wc learned English. < 1364665946 538019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1364665947 978066 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :accesslog \ a.out \ bin \ brainfuck.fu \ canary \ Category:Self-modifying \ dbg.out \ dkVb20VL \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ karma \ lib \ link \ paste \ prefs \ prefs.bf \ quines \ quotes \ radio.php?out=inline&shuffle=1&limit=1&filter=*MitamineLab* \ rainbow \ sgfoobar \ share \ slist.rej < 1364665954 555795 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...nice < 1364665958 421195 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat radio* < 1364665958 648394 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :love that filename, still < 1364665959 769779 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://50.117.26.26:9903/Live | (#1 - 0/500) MitamineLab < 1364665959 974637 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`qc < 1364665961 504733 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000 quotes < 1364665974 893277 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat qc < 1364665976 358776 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: qc: No such file or directory < 1364665980 760910 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, bin/qc < 1364665982 938879 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/qc < 1364665984 361795 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ wc -l quotes < 1364665989 535033 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well duh < 1364665994 386939 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1000 < 1364665995 782155 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000) ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again [...] Domain Name System [...] ♫ domain name system ♫ < 1364666012 138636 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sober" < 1364666031 3446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed '999{hd};1000G' quotes < 1364666032 523443 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 6: extra characters after command < 1364666035 800222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1364666056 210427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed '999h;999d;1000G' quotes < 1364666057 622977 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ I used computational linguistics to kill her. \ EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. \ that's where I got it rocket launc < 1364666063 173667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '999h;999d;1000G' quotes < 1364666066 436806 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1364666070 35880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 999 < 1364666071 658869 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :999) ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again [...] Domain Name System [...] ♫ domain name system ♫ < 1364666073 797006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1000 < 1364666075 477653 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000) `quote 1000 < 1364666100 94098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote rocket < 1364666101 788607 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :4) that's where I got it rocket launch facility gift shop < 1364666173 295446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run type -a sponge < 1364666174 642532 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: line 0: type: sponge: not found < 1364666184 96284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::—( < 1364666259 807638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:54 http://i.imgur.com/Q9d5P6v.jpg < 1364666283 856798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :… < 1364666325 61055 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364666357 343435 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /proc/ < 1364666358 977353 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 \ 10 \ 11 \ 12 \ 2 \ 275 \ 279 \ 280 \ 281 \ 282 \ 283 \ 284 \ 285 \ 286 \ 3 \ 4 \ 45 \ 47 \ 5 \ 6 \ 64 \ 7 \ 70 \ 71 \ 8 \ 9 \ buddyinfo \ bus \ cgroups \ cmdline \ config.gz \ consoles \ cpuinfo \ crypto \ devices \ diskstats \ driver \ execdomains \ exitcode \ filesystems \ fs \ interrupts \ iomem \ ioports \ irq \ kallsyms \ kcore \ kmsg \ kp < 1364666372 61053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste /proc/kallsyms < 1364666374 137842 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip//proc/kallsyms < 1364666393 810786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp /proc/kallsyms . < 1364666397 606088 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1364666398 704459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste kallsyms < 1364666400 509748 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/kallsyms < 1364666435 707273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm kallsyms < 1364666436 756825 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364666466 690850 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: remove write-protected regular file `kallsyms'? < 1364666475 707696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -f kallsyms < 1364666478 842998 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1364666485 965636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you can't access that url :P < 1364666492 810214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :already wgot it < 1364666500 106172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /proc/kallsyms | paste < 1364666505 527042 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.12143 < 1364666518 991512 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe `paste should use the current revision in the url < 1364666564 613592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if you know how to find that out, go ahead < 1364666606 673005 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something hg mumble mumble < 1364666615 456035 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hg heads < 1364666617 668177 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset: 2537:cb03e324f144 \ tag: tip \ user: HackBot \ date: Sat Mar 30 18:01:45 2013 +0000 \ summary: cat /proc/kallsyms | paste < 1364666625 115977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw that option for `paste just calls `url < 1364666628 426428 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run hg heads -q < 1364666630 469017 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2537:cb03e324f144 < 1364666661 456130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you ever read that paper cmccann told me to read? < 1364666669 239716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one about implementing a dependently-typed language, or something. < 1364666689 164499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run uname -a < 1364666690 709095 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux umlbox 3.7.0-umlbox #1 Wed Feb 13 23:30:40 UTC 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux < 1364666763 166873 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably not < 1364666883 576106 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.149.218 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364667014 767242 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I changed my midn and now like the IWBTG quote < 1364667023 102877 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that's how I feel about IWBTG < 1364667051 616779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how sad how people sometimes change their mind too late < 1364667053 302303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit late < 1364667146 529237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l /dev | paste < 1364667152 982091 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.31287 < 1364667173 167007 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the doctor who twitter account sent out a new tweet saying that david tennant, billie piper, and john hurt are all confirmed for the 50th anniversary special :-D < 1364667173 362143 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1364667175 342356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mount | paste < 1364667181 341385 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.32339 < 1364667218 856945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is kmc gonna make an actual competent hacking attempt < 1364667245 847835 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw if you break out of the UML it's still running as an unprivileged user < 1364667271 144436 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-210-226.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364667275 144191 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-223-77.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364667436 3790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1364667448 40629 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not actually competent at hacking things < 1364667456 28368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems like a good excuse to learn a bit about how UML works < 1364667516 615411 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-210-226.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/BeNE Man, square waves. < 1364667587 872315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mkdir mnt && mount -t hostfs / mnt < 1364667589 339510 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mount: only root can do that < 1364667592 948189 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmm kmc dont u mean `cracking' [tiny glider symbol with "hacker pride" written next to it in silkscreen] [head of a gnu] [tux penguin] < 1364667601 619821 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[face shoved in toilet] < 1364667645 148458 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet gnus are real cool animals but i don't know anything about themm < 1364667729 996278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gnu.org/graphics/gnu-head-sm.jpg < 1364667750 555553 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A handsome GNU Head with typical beard and smart-looking curled horns. He or she appears to be smiling contentedly with its works as of yet, but it still gazes off into the distance. < 1364667784 58394 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ripley added the slogan "Your Passion. Our Potential." to the GNU head. < 1364667787 136175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other art in the GNU Art Gallery. < 1364667789 572287 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yr no attenborough < 1364667797 518451 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gnu.org/graphics/nandakumar-gnu.html oh my god < 1364667810 711915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : monqy: did you figure out the "other" fixed point of cos <-- another? is there a complex one or something? < 1364667823 132440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gnu.org/graphics/gnulove.html < 1364667833 65093 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gnu.org/graphics/gnupascal.html < 1364667853 276103 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. http://vimeo.com/59140833 < 1364667855 339026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run id < 1364667857 42019 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :uid=5000 gid=294918 < 1364667861 176590 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run id < 1364667862 530561 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :uid=5000 gid=639601 < 1364667868 158898 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: does this keep going until you find their humor page again < 1364667879 705645 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok these are amazing < 1364667881 279889 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnu.org for best website of all time imo < 1364667892 342861 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1364667893 882316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map head $ group [signum(cos x - x) | x <- [-1, -9.9 .. 1]] < 1364667895 708514 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1.0] < 1364667908 387469 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A long-haired Blaise Pascal and a long-bearded GNU; both stare thoughtfully into space. < 1364667916 297457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run find / -type f \( -perm -4000 -o -perm -2000 \) | paste < 1364667927 686393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> group [signum(cos x - x) | x <- [-1, -9.9 .. 1]] < 1364667929 523603 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1.0]] < 1364667935 247185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1364667941 248825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map head $ group [signum(cos x - x) | x <- [-1, -0.9 .. 1]] < 1364667943 494936 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1.0,-1.0] < 1364667952 200472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only switches once < 1364667966 235252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map head $ group [signum(cos x - x) | x <- [-1, -0.99 .. 1]] < 1364667968 218854 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1.0,-1.0] < 1364667974 747625 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :find: `/proc/tty/driver': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/fd': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/fdinfo': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/ns': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/fd': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/fdinfo': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/ns': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/2/task/2/fd': Permissi < 1364667990 190445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run find / -type f \( -perm -4000 -o -perm -2000 \) 2>/dev/null | paste < 1364668019 445737 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.9180 < 1364668022 697407 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.gnu.org/graphics/bahlon/ http://www.gnu.org/graphics/3dgnuhead.html < 1364668050 74082 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gnu.org/graphics/kafa.html < 1364668088 517999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote i'm not actually competent at hacking things ummmm kmc dont u mean `cracking' [tiny glider symbol with "hacker pride" written next to it in silkscreen] [head of a gnu] [tux penguin] [face shoved in toilet] < 1364668092 398749 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1001) i'm not actually competent at hacking things ummmm kmc dont u mean `cracking' [tiny glider symbol with "hacker pride" written next to it in silkscreen] [head of a gnu] [tux penguin] [face shoved in toilet] < 1364668098 249584 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like donkey kong country, except fuck < 1364668100 240717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/HJOM this computer and the time always is so strange. < 1364668117 105126 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I just wanted to express "wisdom", the wisdom of knowledge, wisdom of love, wisdom of fertility, wisdom of humanity, wisdom of brotherhood. This is what we need and what I feel modern society currently lacks." omg < 1364668173 713977 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-210-226.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1364668183 664822 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-5-78.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364668213 692628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.gnu.org/graphics/nandakumar-gnu.html oh my god <-- needs more soviet poster style < 1364668246 504521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://geekz.co.uk/shop/images/che-stallman-sticker-show.jpg < 1364668270 566629 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "@gmail.com" < 1364668340 333526 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i am confused < 1364668374 11431 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.149.218 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364668381 88709 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-5-78.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some days I suspect Microsoft is on crack. < 1364668381 747856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you should tell NASA there's a closed time loop in your area hth < 1364668382 512948 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-5-78.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other days I know. < 1364668405 128122 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-5-78.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAV is a generic audio container format that merely happens to usually contain raw PCM. < 1364668416 371350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it's like the AVI of audio files < 1364668457 681847 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-5-78.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So freaking insane. < 1364668459 309936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems reasonable, if you think things like ogg and avi and mkv are reasonable < 1364668481 336499 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-5-78.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reasonable except that it's used as a raw PCM format. < 1364668487 853094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: help < 1364668493 713001 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-5-78.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And has since day one. < 1364668507 461305 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-5-78.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expanding it to support more audio formats is just adding pointless complexity. < 1364668530 935095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't follow < 1364668531 922476 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-5-78.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, Microsoft seems to love that. < 1364668535 612614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hasn't it been a generic container since day one? < 1364668545 932131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it a RIFF file containing FourCC codes and such < 1364668549 569302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't just retrofit that later < 1364668559 965492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I could easily eat a hamburger with fries for lunch every day :D <-- hm i've been doing that for dinner for 3 days straight < 1364668571 208595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that most people use it with the raw PCM codec, and therefore other people assume it's only a raw PCM format, is not microsoft's fault < 1364668574 6485 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-5-78.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a RIFF file yes, but the FourCC codes aren't used as metadata for what's contained in it. < 1364668578 44612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw I think ADPCM .wav files are reasonably common < 1364668583 280330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1364668586 998841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because burger king's the only place nearby that's open during easter < 1364668607 485225 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohyeah, it's Easter, innit. < 1364668609 872281 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-5-78.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The FourCC code at the top-level in it is WAVE. < 1364668615 565452 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Tomorrow, that is) < 1364668628 175376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've ran into ADPCM .wavs. And ones with µ-law or A-law, whichever one it was that it did. < 1364668633 963616 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, would it help me gain weight healthily? < 1364668638 438549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well pre-easter. the pizza place will also be open from tomorrow. < 1364668648 971616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i have no idea < 1364668678 828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Other than ⊥. < 1364668697 546196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think my mom used to eat some kind of protein pulver to gain weight. < 1364668715 318833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh duh < 1364668741 424560 :Regis_!~Regis@187.65.193.132 NICK :GOMADWarrior < 1364668742 87081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's a simple binary search. < 1364668771 315733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1364668771 950465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is? < 1364668778 480632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just iterating :P < 1364668782 119001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1364668786 11939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate cos 1 !! 10000 < 1364668787 643775 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.7390851332151607 < 1364668790 974143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate cos 1 !! 1000 < 1364668792 546210 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.7390851332151607 < 1364668796 11986 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate cos 1 !! 100 < 1364668797 676981 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.7390851332151607 < 1364668816 624510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you _could_ have a fixpoint without everything converging to it, but cos apparently doesn't. < 1364668838 221099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is rather logical with its derivative also being in [-1,1] < 1364668847 547407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it must contract. < 1364668889 398970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sin too, although that has a simpler solution. < 1364668896 980353 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-5-78.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also fun is that the BMP format is not necessarily uncompressed. < 1364668935 92042 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-5-78.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's either raw pixmap, RLE, Huffman encoded, JPEG, or PNG. < 1364668938 447436 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.149.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> x - tan x) 3 !! 1000 < 1364668940 251911 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.141592653589793 < 1364668978 490249 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-5-78.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft: because there shouldn't be simple file formats. < 1364669131 565716 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1364669181 866680 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \f g x -> x `f` g x < 1364669182 100084 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap < 1364669309 645284 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1364669461 915939 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@187.65.193.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1364669520 333459 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-33-77.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364669536 956254 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-5-78.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1364670059 722248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: aka (<*>) < 1364670063 203009 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364670075 127307 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-33-77.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364670220 857458 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@187.65.193.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364670316 5380 :Halite!~HaliteBir@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone heard of PAM < 1364670319 608599 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /sbin/lsmod | paste < 1364670324 681735 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opening /proc/modules: No such file or directory \ http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.21005 < 1364670459 737343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls /proc/m* < 1364670461 549041 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/proc/meminfo \ /proc/misc \ /proc/mounts < 1364670560 603423 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364670600 893223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /proc/net/protocols | paste < 1364670606 85957 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.11891 < 1364671204 66284 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Olive oil a dressing that can be put on chicken sandwiches? < 1364671263 382657 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's optionally one of the components of salad cream < 1364671263 577847 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1364671267 720153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess it would be usable on its own too < 1364671269 549695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1364671270 332559 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 1d 5h 35m 36s ago: interesting < 1364671300 401510 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: If balsamic vinegar is good on pasta, why have I heard, in trying to explain why ketchup on pasta is disgusing, ketchup compared to vinegar? < 1364671366 341524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because opinions are not universal. hth. < 1364671367 472426 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should just drink the vinegar straight. Cut to the chase. < 1364671399 169355 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ketchup on pasta... disgusting? < 1364671458 285496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you should listen to what your body wants to eat. if you don't, it will continue losing weight just out of spite, even if you drink olive oil from the bottle instead of water. hth. < 1364671517 596951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if you keep asking others, your body will keep wanting things others advise against, also out of spite. hth. < 1364671583 586796 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364671604 479466 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My body doesn't talk to me in that level of detail < 1364671771 402415 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ketchup on pasta… now that's a treat if we're back in the 1930s. < 1364671859 795723 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1364671872 632286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes you can put oil on bread / sandwiches < 1364671891 334480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ketchup is vinegary but it's also really really sweet < 1364671928 118018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you can make pesto with olive oil, and a pesto & chicken sandwich is really good < 1364672005 891557 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And vinaigerettes are literally oil and vinegar. < 1364672022 322502 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Often with other stuff added, but not at all necessary. < 1364672097 527022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, I dislike ketchup, but like tomato-based pasta sauces < 1364672109 382869 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like ketchup, but I would hate it on pasta. < 1364672142 510365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my point was that if I like one but not the other, it's likely due to a noticeable difference in ingredients < 1364672173 106730 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: For what it's worth, ketchup on pasta is normal in Japan. < 1364672176 635077 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naporitan < 1364672182 131329 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This seems horrifying to me, but there it is. < 1364672190 140621 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japan is… Japan. < 1364672208 422071 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I ask for olive oil, or pesto? < 1364672227 458693 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or does pesto not necessarily have olive oil? < 1364672228 383077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to serve _something_ in all those japanese three-star restaurants < 1364672228 813774 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: why are you asking for oil on pasta anyway? < 1364672230 84332 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swear, Japan uses ketchup more than Americans do. < 1364672237 444533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fear I missed the start of the conversation < 1364672240 108820 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm going to go out and buy a chicken sandwich < 1364672250 326114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it < 1364672251 478778 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been reading that olive oil is healthy and fattening < 1364672258 724172 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And want to try it < 1364672262 405875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you want something that's both healthy and fattening? < 1364672269 903229 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: He needs to gain weight for his health. < 1364672272 872458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1364672276 113618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't think you should fixate on the particular kind of oil so much < 1364672280 980453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, olive oil is good < 1364672287 97180 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now there's a problem I wish I had X_X < 1364672290 994085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :things with oil are generally fattening, and fat is an essential nutrient < 1364672295 850715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think olive oil has a good balance of fats, generally speaking < 1364672298 803596 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: A friend of mine has incredibly *low* cholesterol. < 1364672306 179608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :low quantities of the most dangerous ones, and high quantities of the most benign < 1364672308 892995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I can believe that < 1364672309 969817 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, to the point it's a medical problem. < 1364672329 44581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason cholesterol causes heart problems is that it's so important to the correct functioning of the body that it never excretes it ever < 1364672333 931697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it just builds up in the bloodstream < 1364672333 931861 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is he Japanese? Does he eat nothing but fish? < 1364672337 614161 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it isn't being used < 1364672339 721541 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's American. < 1364672341 976181 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I honestly just want to gain enough weight to be able to donate blood. That would make me happy. < 1364672347 372917 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although probably extra would be nice < 1364672381 304940 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah. It's *rare* to have too little cholesterol, but still. It's a problem. < 1364672399 501520 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's one of those things your body really, really needs. < 1364672412 282715 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HDL vs LDL, or is that a myth? < 1364672428 98546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, perhaps I could persuade Sgeo to eat a full English breakfast, minus the ingredients that are there as traps for foreigners < 1364672430 764351 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have them quite often < 1364672447 591056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are the trap ingredients < 1364672457 979844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the english ones < 1364672470 387857 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, which are the trap ingredients >_> < 1364672474 539278 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be possible to get a full English breakfast at a corporate cafeteria? < 1364672475 8753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well sausages very really wildly in quality, I eat them myself but they're sometimes awful and you don't really want to know what they're made of < 1364672475 935917 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: The thing that makes LDL a problem is it's lower density, meaning that LDL buildups are worse than HDL by far. < 1364672477 628580 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me that roasted tomatoes are a trap. < 1364672482 800262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run lsb_release -v < 1364672485 738522 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No LSB modules are available. < 1364672493 590374 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and black pudding is made of blood, although I haven't actually tried it so I don't know what it's like < 1364672497 229741 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /etc/debian_version < 1364672498 569450 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /etc/debian_version: No such file or directory < 1364672512 360777 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can an English breakfast be eaten in half an hour? < 1364672517 724772 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i had one in ireland, it was fine < 1364672521 54590 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes < 1364672527 789111 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes, but not made and *then* eaten. < 1364672538 230122 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frying stuff is easy, but not instant. < 1364672549 306389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: they can be, I've done it, but you'd need to go to a restaurant experienced in making them < 1364672555 219479 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have about half an hour from getting to the corporate campus to clocking in < 1364672568 327874 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've eaten supposedly-traditional English breakfasts while in England… other than the fact that English people don't seem to understand how to cook eggs, and the fact that tomatoes should not be cooked whole, I've enjoyed them. < 1364672575 511222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the UK, shops that specialise in them, half an hour would be a good estimate for making+eating < 1364672605 240023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we cook eggs all sorts of different ways, it's just that traditional breakfasts fry them < 1364672623 454656 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, let me correct: < 1364672624 238485 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the US, you're more-than-likely doing an approximation by getting their "big breakfast" thing at a diner. < 1364672629 525282 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :English people don't know how to fry eggs. < 1364672642 295670 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: hmm, what specifically do we do wrong? < 1364672645 221350 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not the *same*, but that's basically the closest you'll get without having silly luck.) < 1364672656 71838 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :breakfast in the US is combinatorial, you ask for m eggs, n bacon, k sausage, t toast, etc < 1364672662 951210 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What you call over hard, we call over medium. The actual "hard" end of the spectrum seems beyond your imagination. < 1364672682 373528 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... they don't do eggs over hard there? :( < 1364672687 255682 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I like my eggs over hard. < 1364672689 744163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: that seems specific to restaurants, for some reason < 1364672693 309778 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to try eggs and bacon, but ... even though bacon has a reputation for being fattening... < 1364672711 165542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hard end of the spectrum exists, but typically only for home cooking, the restaurants are in too much of a hurry < 1364672716 86700 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does over hard and over medium exist? < 1364672718 836819 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I've only had English fried eggs in B&Bs and restaurants *shrugs* < 1364672719 492569 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mean? < 1364672734 616465 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But over hard is faster than over medium to cook X_X < 1364672742 249701 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well the fat is visibly separate from the lean meat, with bacon < 1364672749 916429 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Over easy/medium/hard indicates how well-cooked the eggs are after being flipped. < 1364672750 624349 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Over medium is cooked all the way thru, over hard is yolk broken and cooked all the way thru. < 1364672765 935634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the lean meat is still reasonably fattening < 1364672767 799603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gotta try a sous vide egg sometime < 1364672768 633550 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I prefer hard-boiled eggs < 1364672775 167709 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And under hard is a hypothetical abomination that it's fun to ask for in a restaurant when the waiter doesn't know what he/she's doing. < 1364672851 475681 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: In your case, bacon would be fairly beneficial. < 1364672873 891859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: flip the egg, break yolk, then serve? < 1364672875 262928 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're in America. How can gaining weight be difficult. < 1364672890 516757 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, seriously. < 1364672892 577970 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Typically: Crack egg, break yolk, cook one side, flip, cook other side, serve. < 1364672900 132522 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We put cheese on everything. < 1364672920 257315 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Which makes life really fun for people who hate cheese *cough*] < 1364672924 558506 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep fried cheese is a thing in parts of the country! < 1364672935 831857 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION <3 cheese curds
< 1364672950 76795 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364672990 242414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: when I was on a trip to Hungary, there were some vegetarians with us < 1364672996 650201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and our Hungarian hosts didn't seem to know how to handle them < 1364673007 404695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they invented all sorts of vegetarian-but-unusual dishes, such as battered cheese < 1364673031 117454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna try a chip butty < 1364673039 316625 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So if there were vegans, they'd just die there. < 1364673061 845001 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364673066 850858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps, or perhaps they'd have to buy their own food < 1364673101 500291 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I was visiting grad schools, I pretty much had to buy all my own meals. < 1364673109 40756 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pizza: Clearly the universal food. *grumble grumble* < 1364673130 714041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I don't like pizza :( < 1364673146 822278 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you mad? < 1364673151 349132 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I hate cheese. Welcome to the club. < 1364673156 199647 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp I shouldn't be learning nutrition from an artificial life game < 1364673164 460705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I have problems wit heating too much cheese < 1364673167 56192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*with eating < 1364673170 925885 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just tried to make a mental checklist, and it went: starch fat protein < 1364673171 672707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't particularly dislike it at the time < 1364673183 17159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but after not eating it for years, I find it hard to tolerate < 1364673183 721530 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So do I! Where "too much" is defined as "more than none" :) < 1364673190 541908 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1364673204 594011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: those /are/ the three major food groups (well, if you generalise "starch" to "carbohydrate") < 1364673219 20206 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1364673267 349805 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you totally get them by eating seeds, food, and fruit < 1364673268 346102 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1364673292 924336 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw is it just me or are americans awful at making bacon < 1364673294 472681 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know that that's a bad way to describe it at least. But that's how the game works) < 1364673298 378826 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And you totally get them by eating...food" < 1364673300 209847 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solid plan < 1364673303 354456 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet they are obsessed with it < 1364673319 751309 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Food gives only fat specifically, of course! < 1364673324 732941 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Quite simply, what we call bacon and what you call bacon are not the same food whatsoever. < 1364673328 851336 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fruit isn't food < 1364673341 830986 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: yeah but yours just looks like ours if you fucked it up... < 1364673391 97575 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the English just don't like fully cooking breakfast foods *shrugs* < 1364673397 126335 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excluding tomatoes, inexplicably. < 1364673401 648966 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should also see if it's possible to get milk in the cafeteria. And if I can overcome my slight disgust at drinking something that came out of a cow's udders in public. < 1364673420 941087 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not even about how much you cook it i think < 1364673424 11996 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1364673429 148914 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Being fine with it in /private/ but not in /public/ is considerably more disturbing than just not liking it. < 1364673443 986210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there are a large number of possible ways to get meat from a pig < 1364673454 523075 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :US "bacon" is a different cut, cured, and smoked. < 1364673456 197193 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: did you know meat is made out of animal flesh < 1364673464 919231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy, i know < 1364673473 4875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think UK bacon is lim_(width\rightarrow 0) gammon < 1364673475 172605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but am not 100% sure < 1364673479 446982 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1364673482 603705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really like milk either < 1364673484 423782 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cows aren't disgusting, they are fucking jerks though < 1364673485 418091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there seems to be multiple possible definitions of gammon, too < 1364673493 626348 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck cows, is what i'm saying < 1364673497 207738 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, drinking milk is good after having chewed gum, but who chews gum in public? < 1364673504 185692 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody < 1364673513 433720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not everybody, but a lot of people do < 1364673529 292825 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of people fuck cows? < 1364673529 486973 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chewing gum is something to do in the privacy of your own room, with a locked door < 1364673536 164655 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun anecdote: My mom once gave me some gum to help get rid of the taste after I chewed my medicine. < 1364673542 203906 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was when I was a little kid < 1364673558 571976 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: That fact is so fun I can feel my pancreas kicking into overdrive. < 1364673560 169720 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i give this anecdote 3/10 funpuns < 1364673562 453320 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some guy asked if that was nicotine gum < 1364673576 991502 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it? < 1364673585 41367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i chew nicotine gum sometime < 1364673588 359662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1364673591 912973 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. And why would any kid be given nicotine gum? < 1364673601 376864 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because your mom's a classy lady. < 1364673634 367930 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Sgeo: That fact is so fun I can feel my pancreas kicking into overdrive. < 1364673638 25108 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1002) Sgeo: That fact is so fun I can feel my pancreas kicking into overdrive. < 1364673651 456253 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :data32 data32 data32 data32 data32 nopw %cs:0x0(%rax,%rax,1) < 1364673653 974479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :best instruction ever < 1364673693 126933 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I, what < 1364673701 176405 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are there so many data32 prefixes? < 1364673707 269649 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, fuck x86. < 1364673713 383345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an intentionally long nop instruction < 1364673724 610147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is better than a sequence of small nops because it's FASTER < 1364673736 27072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also it can be replaced atomically with some other long instruction) < 1364673760 970762 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, a one-clock-cycle very large nop pad. < 1364673766 819432 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, that's a lot of prefixes. < 1364673798 726781 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolang made up of what would be NOPs in various other languages < 1364673827 607902 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whitespace. < 1364673836 811840 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how the nopw instruction apparently has arguments. < 1364673841 243305 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do nothing with this memory" < 1364673869 367793 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if you don't, it will be randomly filled! < 1364673870 495528 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you can accidentally impose a pipeline stall with that. < 1364673897 923083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Intel says to use %rax specifically for nops, as their chips have a special case to avoid false data dependencies < 1364673925 226825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the classic 0x90 NOP is actually xchg %eax, %eax < 1364673926 474750 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaah. < 1364673942 443677 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The classic 0x90 NOP is not xchg %eax, %eax on x86_64 though. :) < 1364673956 169799 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x90? < 1364673957 706872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it is < 1364673966 206576 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard-coded as a NOP instead because otherwise it'd sign-extend eax. < 1364673967 927532 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in the opcode is 0x90 hex, sgeo. < 1364673974 755965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1364673976 10391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1364673980 828012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly world < 1364673981 22647 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good nop < 1364673987 22113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v3.8.5/arch/x86/include/asm/nops.h < 1364673990 99569 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what do you do fi you want xchg %eax, %eax < 1364674002 211049 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: They gave that a different encoding. < 1364674016 843850 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know, just in case you actually *do* want to sign-extend eax. < 1364674040 892186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that isn't a useless operation, it's actually expressible in gcc intermediate representation, for instance < 1364674054 734996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps ax | paste < 1364674060 367984 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.21725 < 1364674062 692483 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's perfectly sensible. < 1364674073 847537 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1364674074 668813 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might have a 32-bit int in eax and want to cast to a 64-bit init. < 1364674077 702463 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, sign extend. < 1364674078 740145 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it sensible, I don't get it < 1364674087 472426 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sign ex... < 1364674093 226751 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should learn this stuff sometime
< 1364674106 256681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: does xchg %eax, %rax make sense? < 1364674108 102972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing no < 1364674118 465661 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Sign extension is where you set all the other bits based on the sign bit. < 1364674131 631756 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: For instance, the sign extension of 0xFF to a 16-bit int would be 0xFFFF. < 1364674143 193339 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all the other bits, just the ones that didn't exist in the smaller number < 1364674143 541964 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: say you have a 32 bit number with some sign. you want the 64 bit number representing the same number. you can't just put a bunch of zeroes there because of how two's complement works. < 1364674152 534573 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: That's what I mean, yeah. < 1364674174 11975 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should read a tutorial on assembler < 1364674176 73763 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: this header is great < 1364674179 197442 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it "assembler" or "assembly"/ < 1364674180 368729 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1364674190 671343 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assemblation < 1364674213 793543 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"assembly language" as a category is pretty wide anyway, x86 and ARM are really different < 1364674243 651880 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why is there an atomic nop5 and a regular nop5 < 1364674270 956409 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this really doesn't have anything to do with assembly < 1364674274 691058 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the xchg makes sense, I mean < 1364674282 937530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :atomic nop5 and conventional nop5 < 1364674307 374563 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :extern const unsigned char * const *ideal_nops; < 1364674345 330578 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 in general is quite different from most other architectures still around. < 1364674394 541913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'explain const unsigned char * const *ideal_nops' | cdecl < 1364674396 39597 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: cdecl: command not found < 1364674652 129126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"xchg %eax, %eax" does not sign-extend eax. < 1364674669 996843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing to the 32-bit half of a GPR zero-fills the upper 32 bits, not sign-extends. < 1364674703 87357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And if you want that, the "conventional" way of expressing it is mov %reg, %reg.) < 1364674774 376108 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1364674796 126984 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("32-bit operands generate a 32-bit result, zero-extended to a 64-bit result in the destination general-purpose register", Intel 64 and IA-32 Architectures Software Developer's Manual, Volume 1, 3.4.1.1 General-Purpose Registers in 64-Bit Mode.) < 1364674898 863800 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's a "REX.W** + 63 /r MOVSXD r64, r/m32 Move doubleword to quadword with sign-extension." instruction if you want to sign-extend.) < 1364674936 795057 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a better way to learn about CPUs and x86 than by learning assembly? < 1364674944 253410 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Other than that, I don't have any disagreement with the discussion above; it's still the case that xchg %eax, %eax isn't a nop and yadda yadda.) < 1364674958 385065 :Halite!~HaliteBir@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364675025 598605 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364675182 441437 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1364675221 290222 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1364675610 580830 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1364675718 408329 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364675880 200499 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1364676026 259132 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Weird. Why would it zero-extend? < 1364676032 68661 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's significantly less useful. < 1364676046 584576 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also not *particularly* easier. < 1364676082 598119 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a large number of unsigned integers around, and they too have just as much rights as the signed ones. < 1364676095 982186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc the zero extension exists to facilitate using 32-bit pointers < 1364676101 403644 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah. < 1364676114 539275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're (say) making a syscall into a 64-bit kernel, you want to zero-extend, not sign-extend < 1364676127 115407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise the top half of your userspace 32-bit address space will map to kernel space probably < 1364676146 517743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to sign extend, there are instructions for that < 1364676158 203432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :movslq or whatever < 1364676162 227054 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though most 32-bit OSes reserve the top half for kernelspace anyways... :P < 1364676190 185094 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A 64-bit OS running a 32-bit process would hopefully give it four real gigs. Maybe? I don't know. < 1364676191 654482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 64-bit OSes though < 1364676196 228488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1364676198 889522 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364676207 558278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you run an i386 program on x86_64 linux, it gets four gigs < 1364676223 415013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it also runs in compat processor mode so this isn't so relevant anyway < 1364676226 31231 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be surprised if that's not the case on Windows. < 1364676246 898777 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *bet* someone's doing pointer tagging with the high bit on Windows. :P < 1364676266 360700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's relevant in a scenario where your user code runs in long mode and is otherwise a normal amd64 program, except that it stores pointers as only 4 words < 1364676269 456528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :errr 4 bytes < 1364676279 618086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the linux x32 ABI < 1364676302 620511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it might not be relevant for x32 either, since they have a new 32-bit system call interface for x32 < 1364676303 279346 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt they had x32 in mind when they designed that behaviour, though. (Is it all that common, elsewhere?) < 1364676332 904781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but zero extension would be relevant if you wanted to use 32-bit pointers without help from the OS, for sure < 1364676343 611644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you want to link between libs using 32 and 64 bit pointers < 1364676358 591956 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1364676371 876756 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it was definitely already known at the time AMD64 was being designed that 64-bit pointers everywhere has a performance impact, and it would be nice to get away with 32 bit pointers for this reason < 1364676394 229440 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd certainly like a reference to an official rationale document, though. < 1364676401 419298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on SPARC64 it's common to have a mostly 32 bit userspace because (unlike AMD64) the 64-bit processor mode doesn't have any other real performance advantage < 1364676410 864151 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364676412 158213 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sorry, i don't have one < 1364676416 509483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is just what I heard or perhaps inferred < 1364676437 82195 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1364676603 193588 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, AMD's corresponding (programmer's manual) document also just describes the how and not the why. Oh well. < 1364676676 905260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The deal with the sil/dil/bpl/spl vs. ah/bh/ch/dh is kind of nasty. < 1364676755 104103 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think those high-byte registers are pretty much never used, but lower-byte access across all registers is actually useful < 1364676779 845532 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They certainly are used in handcrafted assembly. < 1364676794 903310 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364676845 199783 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not that I disagree that the new scheme wouldn't be much more logical.) < 1364676889 80655 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evenin' < 1364676889 275237 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1364676921 102658 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that's the same manyhills < 1364676935 568817 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least < 1364676946 157386 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man google result previews are greyer now. Oh man just as foretold < 1364676947 496893 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one on the IWC forum is the same as the one on the Murderous Maths forum < 1364676948 989035 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the way you choose between ah/bh/etc and sil/dil/etc is nasty ... since long mode is incompatible enough already, they should've just removed the high bytes entirely < 1364676982 451423 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a shame they didn't change a minor detail of the asm syntax. < 1364676993 129579 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be nice if rax-rdi had r0-r7 synonyms. < 1364677013 188430 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they don't specify any syntax in the first place, so they couldn't change it < 1364677035 951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :NASM does that, in the sense that there's a standard macro package called "altreg" that does. < 1364677074 61220 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but surely the assembler authors could have. < 1364677146 812070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: AMD64 manual, "3.3.1 Syntax": "Each instruction has a /mnemonic syntax/ used by assemblers to specify the operation and the operands --" all that does seem quite a lot like specifying a syntax. ( < 1364677176 490298 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(More assembler authors probably would've if the manual included r0..r7 names in it?) < 1364677342 819939 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(NASM's altreg also adds other such "logical" aliases, like Intel's R8L..R15L (AMD defines R8B..R15B for the low bytes) and R0H..R3H for AH,CH,DH,BH, which probably nobody has used anywhere ever.) < 1364677360 193974 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks in, sees asm
< 1364677381 859458 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick, hide all the assembly. < 1364677493 697426 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders why no DOS C compilers let you use multiple segments *and* a flat memory space
< 1364677513 628556 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not flat if it has multiple segments < 1364677535 920412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: so there are more esolangers from there... < 1364677549 161624 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1364677551 339429 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: You could argue it is, if all the segments have a base of 0 and a limit of 4G. < 1364677563 24535 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Murderous Maths changed my life < 1364677563 863272 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If one enforces the rule that 0x0F00 | segment = 0, then all physical addresses have a unique segment:address pair. < 1364677568 998681 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not an exaggeration) < 1364677572 947030 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1364677575 247833 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite. < 1364677581 21655 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although it does perhaps come under the Butterfly Effect) < 1364677594 279204 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If one enforces the rule that only those 4 bits of the segment are set, ... < 1364677725 202677 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you just have a weird-ass way of loading pointers into registers. < 1364677749 535200 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And your pointer arithmetic is a *tiny* bit weird. < 1364677781 973430 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what you're describing < 1364677796 128018 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: One has the C environment have 20-bit pointers. < 1364677823 345513 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When actually interacting with memory you "simply" convert those to/from segment:address pairs. < 1364677848 642324 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so you've got a somewhat more complicated C compiler, at the benefit of completely ignoring the existence of near/far pointers. < 1364677858 901939 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364677869 732480 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, all neatly packed into 1MB of memory < 1364677900 610530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's basically "all pointers are huge pointers", right? < 1364677905 452547 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes. < 1364677909 489697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so pretty similar to the "huge memory model" < 1364677943 506636 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1364677951 127201 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about the model with a flat 24-bit address space, done by setting up 256 segment descriptors that each specify a 64k segment 64k apart in the GDT, and then using those 24-bit pointers by loading the high byte << 3 into a segment register, and the rest into the low half of a GPR, and never touching the upper 16 bits of them? < 1364677969 429902 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Won't work in real mode. :) < 1364677989 334159 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But fairly sensible if you need to work on a 286. < 1364678024 381417 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell, you could even page that way. < 1364678026 496087 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you need to work on a 286 anymore? < 1364678033 908995 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want, maybe, but need? < 1364678047 899727 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Well, if you have a time machine, ... < 1364678053 852428 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They had no olive oil, just oil < 1364678071 561274 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :aliens arrive and convert all processors to 286es < 1364678078 548823 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Olive oil, motor oil, it's all just oil. < 1364678087 901527 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was labeled only as 'oil' < 1364678155 187295 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, anymore if you *really* need to run on DOS you just build with DJGPP. < 1364678165 580300 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even that's unlikely. < 1364678175 262142 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: If you have a time machine, you will probably do something more interesting than go back a couple of years for old computers < 1364678201 135204 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I dunno, I could be pretty interesting doing that. < 1364678206 545009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in these days you might build with OpenWatcom instead, because Watcom is the bomb (all the kool demoscene dudes had a copy of Watcom), and now you can get it for free. < 1364678209 724100 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why you wouldn't just write straight ASM for a 286 < 1364678221 253229 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Head back to 2000 and claim to be John Titor. :D < 1364678237 799975 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: CERN isn't evil < 1364678238 105709 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, DOS4GW vs. what's-what-DJGPP-used-was-it-CWSDPMI-or-what. < 1364678243 313633 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this isn't a manga < 1364678267 280926 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, the John Titor story has fuck-all to do with manga... < 1364678279 158463 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: there's an anime with the Titor story in it. < 1364678280 946312 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of those dos extenders failed to work on my 386 :( < 1364678298 655255 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't that that guy who went on Usenet or something and claimed to be a time traveller < 1364678298 849528 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but the Titor story is an actual event. Someone *actually claimed* to be a time traveller online... < 1364678305 85006 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't taste anything < 1364678309 803279 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least anything different < 1364678314 455750 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anime subsumes all, pikhq! ALLLLL < 1364678316 289634 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Forum rather than Usenet, but yes. < 1364678326 642118 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was usenet... < 1364678331 369186 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 2000? < 1364678346 108786 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION used USENET in 2006
< 1364678368 581859 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo used USENET in 2006 < 1364678387 80084 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :usednet < 1364678394 171714 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well, ok, there is a manga based off it though < 1364678402 419437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Was there something wrong with your 386 then? < 1364678411 612258 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: btw please cease your sinful placement of two spaces after punctuation. < 1364678420 122876 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it was made into a manga < 1364678420 649451 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steins;Gate < 1364678430 730036 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: bite me motherfucker < 1364678448 745921 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that how you're supposed to type? With two spaces after punctuation? I've definitely heard of that. < 1364678458 471537 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my teeth arent that long Bike < 1364678460 26195 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: That's a typewriterism. < 1364678467 841893 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Punctuation < 1364678470 902687 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is punctuation < 1364678491 521713 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: There is supposed to be a 1.5em space after a period in traditional, high-quality typesetting. < 1364678497 83342 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-38-228.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two spaces is an emulation of that. < 1364678520 345661 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, there's a movie about the guy with that classified ad < 1364678534 609982 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a guy with a classified ad!? < 1364678545 412494 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The... I have only done this once before guy < 1364678599 338176 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1364678726 750979 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style sms < 1364678726 945644 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: sms (National University of Singapore SMS corpus, 2011-08-20) < 1364678727 835228 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How many spaces do you put in, after a period? < 1364678728 225225 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thank u. please tell lucy i forgot to tell me what u thinking just now leh. at ard decimal tmr at the coffeeshop near their office < 1364678733 901070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1364678758 618055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping for one of those cases where you put in punctuation,then don't leave any space after them.I hear it's all the rage these days. < 1364678764 878470 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1364678772 736270 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Are you sure you can't oblige? < 1364678772 937044 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: who is this? 1. over. your not my real. she can come and ill get her medical education nt only in this assignment < 1364678775 103964 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364678791 165023 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have accidentally normalized the punctuation a bit, come to think of it. < 1364678884 391319 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364679214 583515 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1364679249 933217 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1364679250 128045 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1364679299 353058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Were you unnerved by the silence? < 1364679481 368504 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The music I made is now available in FLAC format, although the FLAC file is over ten thousand times as large. < 1364679522 843867 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-214-57.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1364679544 851317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just couldn't take it any more < 1364679562 487125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :silence, then zzo38 music < 1364679608 848480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's good he got away before the polka. < 1364679752 614094 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-117-149.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364679769 803181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no he came back! now he is doomed. < 1364679776 104311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+ < 1364679790 799136 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doom Taneb < 1364679792 505328 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: doom: not found < 1364679820 879372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, doom is his last name. if you choose the right font. < 1364679823 14718 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1364679912 217277 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doom lighting is like mood lighting, except even darker. < 1364679952 520160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has used OpenWatcom
< 1364679965 806891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: was it super effective? < 1364679973 243212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1364679979 143321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1364680016 396602 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.com/2010/10/programming-jvf-2010.html < 1364680150 857050 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used a stolen copy of Watcom 9. < 1364680171 281052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe 9.5. Something that started with 9. < 1364680182 843228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, unordered pairs are tricky < 1364680225 1660 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: heh those comments. < 1364680232 347947 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-117-149.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Haskell, either use an Ord instance or just use tuples but with stupider pattern matching, elliott < 1364680240 257712 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-117-149.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something clever I haven't thought of < 1364680351 561225 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is in coq < 1364680468 933139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: they're called "sets of two elements" i hear < 1364680492 504717 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sets are even harder :P < 1364680513 425102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i thought Coq had sets as a nearly basic feature < 1364680532 179462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :type theory > set theory! < 1364680536 884811 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it has "Set", but those are just types < 1364680542 420016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1364680548 198075 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, you have Set and Prop as subtypes of Type. < 1364680552 219170 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Set is "small stuff" < 1364680562 586854 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which basically means, you're restricted in how much you can quantify over in Set, I think) < 1364680578 746662 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are various developments of set theory in coq though. I think they all use axioms. < 1364680632 903485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well { x | x = y or x = z } would be one way of writing the unordered pair {y,z} in set theory. < 1364680678 754720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or {y} union {z} < 1364680712 125574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm wondering what is tricky about it. < 1364680763 568489 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well it is type theory. you don't have that. < 1364680789 164788 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the closest thing you have to unions/intersections are products and sums, and of course products give you an ordering. < 1364680830 559984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1364680854 409913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Can't you do actual union types with dependent types somehow? < 1364680889 24098 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what would that mean? < 1364680901 158566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're pullbacks and pushouts of each other or something like that, aren't they? < 1364680911 744385 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I know what the type should look like and what induction principle you want on it, I think. it's implementing it that's the hard part. < 1364680958 700142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to prove it leads to a contradiction. < 1364680973 771653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoerjan < 1364680978 791895 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1364681001 887639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist < 1364681003 231257 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist: shachaf oerjan Sgeo < 1364681031 869823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: when you cannot do something, prove that it cannot be done. they'd have discovered hyperbolic geometry so much easier if they'd just tried that earlier. < 1364681034 470341 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you can't express something in coq it's far more likely than not you can't prove you can't, in my experience. < 1364681043 420417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is this the same as earlier today? < 1364681048 866206 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you can perfectly well add all of classical logic and ZFC as axioms and it still works. < 1364681051 683727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ther ewas one earlier today? < 1364681070 651777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1364681074 898743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did someone `olist? < 1364681077 505796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1364681424 778719 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does the `olist signify? < 1364681428 181948 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@187.65.193.132 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1364681489 772398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: order of the stick update < 1364681496 455043 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1364681510 54557 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@187.65.193.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364681518 632925 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo FireFly >>bin/olist < 1364681522 60050 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1364681575 294139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1364681576 235265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly #esoteric is the replacement for Google Reader < 1364681585 221137 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hizzo38 < 1364681586 187594 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there questions where it's interesting to prove whether you can prove if something can be proven? < 1364681601 493560 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1364681631 740318 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well, consistency, no? < 1364681633 46315 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-117-149.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, alas, I follow RSSs that no-one else here does < 1364681643 346193 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : `tanelist < 1364681672 722974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not currently follow any RSS < 1364681854 117905 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, again? < 1364681932 485984 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, not again < 1364682736 510861 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1364682819 360866 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1364683198 4876 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364683358 578161 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone of you ever done any program slicing? http://sites.computer.org/debull/A07dec/cheney.pdf < 1364683433 940970 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. or any provenance related stuff? < 1364683448 677901 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-117-149.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just managed to make two squares appear on a screen < 1364683454 190531 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-117-149.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that close? < 1364683512 25676 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :with butter? < 1364683611 345012 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you make those squares? i want to know it all! If you can't show how you did it, step-by-step, i deem it not trust worthy < 1364683662 626743 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-117-149.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used GLUT < 1364683811 781474 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like SLUT - so i don't trust the GLUT squares really appeared on the screen < 1364683839 5601 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops - now i'm going to be fired - i was being rude and sexists < 1364683841 969430 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt: slut shaming < 1364683865 497451 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, i take that back < 1364683944 204510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :take what back? < 1364684010 344224 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :…this whole provenance thing has caught me by surprise … i said something stupid and it can be traced back to me! < 1364684025 201678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1364684030 699234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :logged forever < 1364684116 399311 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :undo isn't always an option - when firing rockets < 1364684146 385974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION visualises a rocket turning round, flying back to where it came, and carefully parking inside the rocket launcher
< 1364684160 490206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1364684176 694947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the latest xkcd what if is relevant. < 1364684187 174712 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. we just lost some fuel somewhere .. < 1364684282 268707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://what-if.xkcd.com/38/ < 1364684285 173505 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : /query oerjan < 1364684288 782398 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1364684301 67170 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : /query kmc Bike Taneb # incriminating everyone < 1364684306 437496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1364684318 146470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : /query [mbm] # i'm looking at you, idler < 1364684321 193334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are already querying me afaik < 1364684326 853027 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I use it to switch windows! < 1364684331 870801 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I am hopelessly inefficient < 1364684333 49742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1364684456 840470 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use that to go to a fungot window too. < 1364684457 69086 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: am i that much bad loh. nvm. i think gaoweiwould do < 1364684469 801173 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, /query fungot. /query oerjan, as far as I can tell, does not go to a fungot window. < 1364684470 247174 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: just in time to rehearse for the bestpresentation demo tomorrow at the new school year. just wishin you a gr8 day. plus walking ma.haha. but shld b fine... slackin now... wat u doing now. any way thanks for the wishes to ur parents:-d may they united ah < 1364684475 334589 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes the difference can be pretty small. < 1364684488 864600 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-73.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1364684612 484930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot fungus facts < 1364684612 824887 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: saw u PAT just cents with budget sms!* shehan... regret to inform you that i am wearing slipper. < 1364684616 81940 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :question: is there someone who did some provenance related stuff? < 1364684689 354474 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find provenance pretty esoteric - but you may disagree < 1364684721 690676 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do we have any Turing-complete programming languages whose interpreter consists of a finite state machine attached to a queue? < 1364684765 478689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: DownRight < 1364684766 858812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :provenance sounds like a comonad hth < 1364684801 486944 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Provenance as in God being nice? < 1364684846 662420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.google.com/p/core-provenance-library/ is what google gave me < 1364684855 205488 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-117-149.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that like the capital of Rhode Island < 1364684870 320639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's providence. also something plantations. < 1364684871 915160 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right, providence. < 1364684881 4667 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about provenance being first class? for instance, go back in time and re-use past data in the present < 1364684881 714819 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Provenance is... like the history of possession of something. < 1364684898 292664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: you should look up Elephant < 1364684941 22068 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, let me rephrase my question. < 1364684943 648749 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know of elephant - it was conceived by the great one < 1364684975 101134 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do we have any Turing-complete programming languages where the program is a list of instructions (which are not necessarily only one character long), and each instruction is of the form "append these characters to the program"? < 1364685016 44826 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.149.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fueue? < 1364685020 230010 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure the provenance is good material for a esoteric language. < 1364685031 960843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: tag systems work like that < 1364685082 554989 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a simple Turing-complete tag system, then... < 1364685084 648654 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :provenance is a hot research topic < 1364685139 924049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: hmm… tag systems in general are TC, but I'm not sure how simple the simplest universal one is < 1364685146 983698 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: speaking of elephant - i don't remember seeing a compiler for it < 1364685275 644953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot find elephant on wikipedia :( < 1364685312 13354 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :an elephant interpreter is fine with me too < 1364685322 485859 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant hth < 1364685338 803480 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. what was that elephant saying? .. < 1364685359 57666 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :. WHAT was that elephant saying? .. < 1364685377 658146 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :What WAS that elephant saying? What was that elephant SAYING? < 1364685394 276169 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :noted < 1364685404 941011 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and remembered < 1364685475 134621 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364685520 411870 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :memoized so to speak < 1364685578 462901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats tswett -----###
< 1364685595 170401 :heroux!~heroux@5070823c.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364685665 98396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sorry about the awful spam. i haven't been up to upgrading the wiki over the past few days. < 1364685676 245568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fair enough, it only takes a couple of minutes to fix < 1364685686 293174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might make more sense to apologise to everyone else < 1364685707 662885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there used to be debates on Wikipedia, "how do you delete ten pages in ten seconds without using a script?" < 1364685710 426088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's entirely doable < 1364685717 597088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use tabs and get into a rhythm < 1364685738 227261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll apologise to oerjan for not making him an op to deal with it < 1364685745 731964 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I guses op is a bad abbreviation of sysop < 1364685812 112615 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why have I been so hungry today? :/ < 1364685817 325732 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess that's a good thing < 1364685826 868261 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe eating more during the week makes me need more food? < 1364685941 930685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you added DownRight to the implemented category but i see no implementation link < 1364685958 435009 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there are two on the talk page < 1364685971 48436 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Fueue. < 1364685974 451601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1364686007 516108 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ? < 1364686033 137249 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I seem to remember writing a implementation using parsec, which was totally overkill for that < 1364686042 170433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: there was no mention in the article of where to find it. < 1364686049 730372 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, was it on the talk page? < 1364686050 67416 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-117-149.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, this makes me happy < 1364686076 560491 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, otherwise I guess I could try searching for it, to find the file < 1364686093 52440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < 1364686096 911801 :heroux!~heroux@5070823c.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1364686133 714159 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1364686292 574348 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1364686335 677234 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I wonder how interesting a two-dimensional Turing machine you could make. < 1364686553 937392 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps the head's state could consist of the direction that the machine wants to move in and a "current instruction", and then the instructions are things like "start moving in this direction", "pick up the instruction that's in this direction", and "lay down the instruction that's in this direction". < 1364686921 686098 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl QUIT :Quit: rapido < 1364687050 629481 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1364687523 481529 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The company I work for pays for a specific charity's administrative costs < 1364687614 927464 :carado_!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1364687675 115031 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1364687706 159994 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1364687920 871196 :carado_!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds