< 1363651264 441193 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.19.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fmap f . flip) f g x = fmap f (flip f) g x = (f . flip f) g x = f (flip f g) x... it still doesn't make much sense < 1363651269 817815 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.19.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to bed < 1363651639 988821 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363651858 413117 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.19.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1363651906 367722 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye nodl < 1363651953 617485 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZipLists are so verbose to use :( < 1363651968 908209 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1363652626 650368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1363652781 498535 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1363653085 959224 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, after I finish this last episode of Space Cadets, I'll go watch another episode of Farscape. How's PMMM coming? < 1363653426 238682 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of weird to think a hoax saved someone's life < 1363653433 456092 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As in, the guy who gave up smoking) < 1363653622 568521 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :calling that life-saving is a little rich... < 1363653774 188522 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's life-prolonging, on average < 1363653804 900161 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b77d4.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1363653957 529515 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, i liked the part where she used the magic < 1363654128 724708 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an amusing irony in your fake answers < 1363654153 796752 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since eventually one realizes that the whole point of madoka magica is that 0,0she can't be allowed to use the magic < 1363654161 759704 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are fake blocks again aren't they. < 1363654166 48605 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not going to fool me this time. < 1363654166 257393 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no, they're real) < 1363654170 807991 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO DON'T DO IT ELLIOTT < 1363654178 579261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its ok i /cleared anyway < 1363654183 698528 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew < 1363654188 328611 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1363654190 81640 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly < 1363654192 208136 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is like a reflex when i see spoiler markings of any sort < 1363654195 438472 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i scroll as fast as i can < 1363654224 208744 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, Mahō Shōjo Madoka Magika. Good series. < 1363654246 121944 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, er, my answers are simply ahead of their time < 1363654369 347891 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, (my impression of this series is that it is a brilliant deconstruction of a genre to which i have never been exposed) < 1363654372 401132 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is this accurate) < 1363654386 79266 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(haha, deconstruction) < 1363654393 69248 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a little? but not really < 1363654401 730507 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, I haven't really had exposure to the genre in question myself < 1363654409 968260 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1363654415 48496 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was using that as an excuse < 1363654430 724054 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a wonderful self-contained story that you don't need to watch anything else to enjoy < 1363654430 932630 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have to fall back on 'animes are for little girls and gay' < 1363654444 479535 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the gay is one of the best reasons to watch it :< < 1363654453 369299 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :excuse status: annihilated < 1363654457 398679 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like "I won't eat the cake because of the wonderfully tasty fudge chocolate" < 1363654473 618215 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Are you suggesting that gay is bad? < 1363654482 34720 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's gay < 1363654484 907926 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he's suggesting that he's being silly < 1363654492 95199 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each time you say that I will fuck a man. < 1363654494 287891 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1363654506 898565 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the man hot < 1363654507 325320 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gay gay gay gay gay gay gay < 1363654515 458093 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well yes. I have some taste. < 1363654524 769326 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*echm* Bow chicka wow wow < 1363654527 992315 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1363654534 868726 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely i can say 'gay' faster than you can fuck a man < 1363654537 388870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you have to realise is that Phantom_Hoover is too busy insulting bf derivatives on his incredibly popular blog < 1363654541 398159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to do anything else whatsoever < 1363654549 709728 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially true < 1363654554 318205 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Sounds like it's gonna be quite an orgy. < 1363654556 357 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can still say gay though! < 1363654559 628376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact he outsources his IRC presence. we're not talking to the real phantom hoover < 1363654566 999492 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I feel insulted that Braintrust hasn't been insulted? < 1363654578 549416 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps self for blatant obsessivism
< 1363654591 277882 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :less talk, more farscape < 1363654610 737999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact the real PH hasn't even seen farscape. it's just that 2/3rds of his 3-person IRC team really like it < 1363654703 930178 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1363654706 208179 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we tried putting it in the corner of his screen while he was writing screeds about bf derivatives < 1363654736 211601 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :results so far have been inconclusive but promising trends have been noted in his writing style < 1363654758 99670 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda ruining my immersion here phantom hoover < 1363654766 319107 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover is kind of like the martin luther of esolangs < 1363654770 871569 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that I know almost nothing about martin luther < 1363654771 79893 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to believe i'm really on the same IRC channel as the incredibly popular phantom hoover < 1363654775 948521 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than that he was probably kind of a drag to be around < 1363654776 528663 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was really anti semitic < 1363654788 598949 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look man < 1363654792 289793 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a scale of "pretty cool" to "hitler" what would you say your opinion on jews is < 1363654794 968645 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have no problem with the jews < 1363654801 669744 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they would stop making bf derivatives < 1363654802 988035 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not on the scale < 1363654812 658222 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you answer hitler does that mean you think jews are as good as hitler < 1363654820 238387 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i'm not sure that is actually possible < 1363654824 379005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover is actually a committee?? < 1363654826 580415 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think hitler made any bf derivatives < 1363654829 328315 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, no < 1363654831 327973 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no kmc < 1363654839 962218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just part of his pr team < 1363654845 654966 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess if you're like < 1363654845 862514 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an antisemite who really hates moustaches < 1363654861 431624 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363654870 339590 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he still has executive control < 1363654878 859203 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what if you hate hitler for ruining antisemitism < 1363654891 34576 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that... < 1363654894 693612 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is probably an opinion someone atcually has < 1363655026 878509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION agrees with elliott
< 1363655041 809056 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks ais523. < 1363655044 759010 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your support means a lot to me. < 1363655171 519200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well sometimes I ask for yours < 1363655179 648622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. when I'm not sure I have the right opinion < 1363655225 229316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or when I'm failing to understand Haskell as usual < 1363655529 519552 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1363655583 979523 :lmt!~user_name@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363655656 518765 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1363656316 362130 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1363657506 800542 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1363657916 921368 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-242.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1363660699 927209 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to watch ep 6 of Farscape < 1363660729 900657 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Thank God It's Friday. Again." sounds time travelley < 1363660862 830661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1363661184 464922 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1363661230 785463 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found my glasses. It's nice having depth perception. < 1363661398 281584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Are you kidding? That's great! < 1363661410 740729 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what you're referencing < 1363661413 435570 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe?? < 1363661415 774932 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is this a decent guide? http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/f3efg < 1363661419 324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's indeed?? < 1363661517 570796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You really don't want to mention it to edwardk? < 1363661532 527392 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1363661538 612408 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you really want more inscrutable lens type errors? < 1363661610 830729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have to ask < 1363661634 842678 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: sure < 1363661638 78620 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1363661672 251719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo distribute is much better than current (??) < 1363661674 320762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :less ad-hoc < 1363662129 239291 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: except Distributive just means "isomorphic to (k ->) for some k" < 1363662139 68279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1363662144 650098 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is that you're not making up a new type. < 1363662144 858472 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of ad-hoc < 1363662156 312100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dstributive already exists, and this is just a new name for it. < 1363662172 180539 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the infix should be in distributive instead. < 1363662182 80784 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lens should just depend on it for one stupid function so it can reexport it. < 1363662183 690693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, isn't that Representable? < 1363662351 239450 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1363662382 716054 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1363663101 500886 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363663142 691506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome monqy < 1363663144 774717 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1363663159 290446 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dal?? really shachaf???? < 1363663160 697709 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??hi < 1363663173 632120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dalnet < 1363663174 623444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: 4WHAT < 1363663175 456153 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :dalnet? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1363663697 341764 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf hown did I fail to recognize that symbol until Crichton said it? < 1363663716 340946 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hown < 1363664073 280967 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what symvol < 1363664076 851577 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*symbol < 1363664578 218819 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Peacekeeper symbol < 1363664597 791478 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you're at that bit < 1363664625 151159 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact, that symbol is based on a work of bolshevik propaganda < 1363664637 821 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just removed a few extraneous triangles < 1363664646 601460 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apparently the russians are very inspired by triangles) < 1363664673 337105 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finished the episode < 1363665072 986435 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1363665635 603170 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1363665665 771822 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1363666110 575144 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1363666221 792714 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1363666282 702670 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1363667035 704751 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is /r/buildapcforme generally good? < 1363667917 262818 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Bike < 1363667918 992224 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1363667935 271673 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heyyyyy < 1363667954 604040 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you going anywhere tonight, elliott? let's say you and me hit up the clubs and then awkwardly fuck < 1363667955 52415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bike welcome < 1363667957 170065 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bike: not found < 1363667964 202266 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1363667971 62584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many hookups has #esoteric facilitate < 1363667979 856067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to guess somewhere in the region of 0 < 1363667984 626529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 ± 1 < 1363667985 131785 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not so much a hookup as it is a fuckup < 1363668003 799332 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not hookups can we at least, like, ship people? < 1363668009 100660 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott x kmc otp or something < 1363668051 352717 :lmt!~user_name@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is everyone in this channel gay < 1363668067 252037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmt x banning people < 1363668067 702016 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think even most of us are gay. < 1363668100 863118 :lmt!~user_name@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1363668108 722500 :lmt!~user_name@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys are behind the times < 1363668127 277921 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like BEHIND the times < 1363668133 782102 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(anal) < 1363668135 102674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, butts < 1363668141 885364 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, butts. < 1363668143 574692 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :always a good joke, butts < 1363668155 803105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :always... the butt of a joke < 1363668283 125181 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : you are all silly < 1363668343 943666 :lmt!~user_name@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im serious < 1363669099 366934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My sister is a big fan of "shipping", apparently. < 1363669230 682692 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does she help with your cosplays < 1363669322 342667 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :She doesn't like that comic, I don't think. < 1363669409 346159 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey HackEgo's fixed < 1363669460 212284 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmt: But yeah. Sadly I'm only, like, half-gay. < 1363669581 433017 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is either straight or mostly straight
< 1363669594 993465 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1363669636 119453 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you tried fucking a dude? Or like, let's be imaginative, a horse. Just to check. < 1363669674 432506 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather sure it doesn't work that way. < 1363669680 982336 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if it does... < 1363669685 863211 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How *you* doin'? ;) < 1363669701 818887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike truly has a way with words. < 1363669707 193324 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a horse pikhq < 1363669732 122336 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: No. < 1363669735 902679 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I could choose my sexuality. Would choose to either be bisexual or asexual. < 1363669742 593119 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure which < 1363669754 752947 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bi's pretty fun. < 1363669765 292669 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, sex is pretty fun. < 1363669799 412430 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1363669806 811542 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People getting mad because of staring is not fun < 1363669837 386810 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1363669845 452307 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :staring? < 1363669846 792340 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you stare at people sgeo. is this a problem < 1363669847 102224 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1363669851 265261 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dongs everywhere < 1363669864 720495 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i stare at people. but only if they are monqy < 1363669872 333727 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :=/ < 1363669877 612340 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I know that feel. < 1363669877 820477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry monqy < 1363669883 174781 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well actually I don't. < 1363669892 152441 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the monqystaring feel < 1363670442 973370 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-47-93.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1363670471 683096 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-47-93.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1363670471 891474 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1363670561 293066 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1363670563 528665 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1363670588 33368 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363671231 775059 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^list < 1363671232 222876 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1363671282 114354 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Sgeo < 1363671284 413613 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1363671358 73274 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Are you in Portland? < 1363671365 472619 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome elliott < 1363671367 962762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welliott < 1363671369 163986 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1363671370 382631 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: welliott: not found < 1363671399 172989 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portland metro. < 1363671400 198934 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay update < 1363671468 293317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yupdate < 1363671486 583808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what are you doing in portland you're a bike you don't...... never mind i guess < 1363671500 406063 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I'm not sure if I'd recommend asexuality, it's not that fun < 1363671513 102795 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem fun, no. < 1363671531 93428 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: uh have you ever seen portland it's like 700% bikes < 1363671541 572622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's the never mind part...... < 1363671541 785174 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were in washington < 1363671550 852736 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1363671552 283651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Are you confusing me with Bike? < 1363671553 393455 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My sexuality has only been actually _fun_ since maybe late 2011 < 1363671557 452838 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: portland metro stretches into washington. < 1363671561 223230 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before then it just caused problems < 1363671646 324347 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Oh? < 1363671685 624006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Weren't you in Seattle? < 1363671690 470503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seattle is not Portland metro! < 1363671710 703207 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't in Seattle. < 1363671716 982667 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1363671727 16496 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was making a joke about bikes < 1363671729 998135 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry <.< < 1363671734 282617 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jokes are hard. < 1363671748 843361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: You *should* be sorry! < 1363671754 863367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a no-joke zone. < 1363671755 71784 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1363671764 103207 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's something I want to just casually talk about in here. Just, I was not a perfect person when I was younger. Not... utterly evil I guess, I'm not a rapist or anything like that, but < 1363671783 802842 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is going fantastic places. < 1363671803 779627 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you talk about it casually quite a bit already < 1363671823 573400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt that basically "what Sgeo does" < 1363671834 473433 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh i watched that onion video about football racists and now it's going to stick in my head uuuuugh help < 1363671845 122813 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapists < 1363671848 783419 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. Talk casually about personal life and then be worried about it. < 1363671848 991500 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno probably both < 1363671854 432906 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the last bit that's classic Sgeo. < 1363671913 423358 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: In the name of random. My sexuality only got "fun" since late 2012. Because that's when I lost my virginity. :P < 1363671964 844334 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had some fun times even before losing my virginity... and losing my virginity wasn't really that fun < 1363672006 761868 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see this is what im talking about < 1363672048 684550 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some things I'm ok with talking about casually other things I'm not. Not a difficult concept. < 1363672130 143237 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find one of those halves really dubious < 1363672151 402784 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Which half? < 1363672215 227395 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a mystery < 1363672396 662107 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how many karkat tantrum bingo boards exist by now
< 1363673357 670460 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1363673496 334520 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1363674339 533874 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1363675905 566878 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1363675924 530504 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-47-93.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1363675953 913788 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-47-93.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1363675954 122251 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1363676296 64039 :lmt!~user_name@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1363676384 655399 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My sexuality has only been actually _fun_ since maybe late 2011. [..] Just, I was not a perfect person when I was younger <-- you mean younger in ..2011?! < 1363676387 454609 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must have had vivid two years since then < 1363676406 83764 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean before 2011 < 1363676464 979969 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: okay..*phew* ..how old are you? < 1363676471 835808 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if if may ask..btw < 1363676482 616753 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :23 < 1363676489 704003 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hail eris! < 1363676555 505451 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must be the avarage age of folks in this channel.. right? i guess kmc is a little bit older < 1363676621 447004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm 25 < 1363676624 826848 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1363676626 44153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did i get to be the old one :( < 1363676645 124122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is like 18 or something despite having the demeanor of a bitter old man like me < 1363676846 291942 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1363676846 539368 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did i get to be the old one :( <-- maybe not old but.. mature ;) anyone older than you kmc? < 1363676846 748100 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i guess ..most of the people here still haven't finished college yet < 1363676846 748297 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1363676848 755545 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you guys have too much time < 1363676850 733909 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1363676943 696056 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is elliott already 18??? < 1363677137 356852 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is 23?
< 1363677255 842366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not sure? :) < 1363677273 121411 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I'm... I'm pretty sure! < 1363677427 465099 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think 25 counts as that old though :p < 1363677454 995568 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :current year - birth year - 1 if it's before your birthday this year, current year - birth year if it's after your birthday this year. < 1363677459 865061 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i call you mummy? < 1363677486 354946 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo < 1363677492 536072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you for explaining how birthdays work < 1363677519 383435 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just used to being the young one in my peer group < 1363677520 892955 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now explain how women work < 1363677523 317242 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It tends to take me a moment < 1363677527 204114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :started university 2 years early < 1363677535 514670 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363677982 280996 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc you mentioned beeing employed at a software company..and that's all i can tell.. however! you're all pretty young and smart. < 1363678010 834816 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some at least pretty! < 1363678069 229296 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: we use the citric acid cycle to extract chemical bond energy from organic modules, powering a complex organization of self-aware nanomachines? < 1363678083 482591 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's how we work. Not 100% sure though, some might work differently. < 1363678161 120828 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i really didn't want to know how you work! < 1363678166 57781 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :show me how you love! < 1363678169 914874 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1363678214 775079 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmmm um mixed piles of fangirl squees ? I don't know < 1363678260 575212 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't know. great! that's a good point to start! < 1363678515 407015 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::? < 1363678585 233878 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1363678643 685677 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know: where we are is always the whole world < 1363678782 868823 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust stupid http://files.lymiahugs.com/best-50-47.txt < 1363678797 145429 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for Lymia_stupid: 5.0 < 1363678827 775700 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... let's see if bfjoust evolvers failing is because of it being that hard, or because of bad representations :p < 1363678829 108202 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is lost
< 1363678865 620888 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4e6ad.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: *hug* bye! < 1363679187 169746 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1363679191 447764 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was weird < 1363679251 755253 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the first time < 1363679372 465459 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, didn't know that citric acid cycle was a name for it < 1363679411 336717 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yay I guess I got it right < 1363681181 466909 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1363681208 947783 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1363681977 579197 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, reading about borges, when suddenly one of the "See also" sections links to "List of lists of lists" < 1363683933 518668 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1363684268 170666 :ThatOtherPerson!d44c5372@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.76.83.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363684335 457895 :ThatOtherPerson!d44c5372@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.76.83.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1363684360 328151 :ThatOtherPerson!d44c5372@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.76.83.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google has a Conway's Game of Life easter egg now :D < 1363684366 171953 :ThatOtherPerson!d44c5372@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.76.83.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.google.com/search?q=conway's+game+of+life < 1363684580 808261 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1363684628 257520 :ThatOtherPerson!d44c5372@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.76.83.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1363684879 467215 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363685067 308582 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1363685160 518475 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1363685834 488431 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1363687512 17829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, re logs, I'm older than kmc? That somehow doesn't sound right. < 1363687709 719569 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363688413 937937 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1363688414 960137 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1363688416 174673 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1363688416 594668 :SDr!~ask@unaffiliated/sdr QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1363688416 594823 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363688418 26291 :heroux_!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1363688471 797626 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1363690668 459956 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363691095 569628 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Least Welcoming channel on Freenode"? Surely that would be #irp! < 1363691163 929970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME EVERYONE < 1363691168 540171 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYONE: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE. (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON IRC.DAL.NET.) < 1363692588 840524 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Quit: reboot < 1363694873 133847 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-47-93.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1363694873 482001 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-47-93.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1363694873 690692 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1363696738 630494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1363696770 32540 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363697065 490231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: if i cared about madoka spoilers i'd point out spoiler markings don't work in the logs. < 1363697126 435436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there would be someone awake to read it. < 1363697178 640215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :4,4THIS IS A SPOILER < 1363697180 611581 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363697183 710747 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1363697208 663323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :0,0THIS TOO < 1363697232 718002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow2 is not, though < 1363697232 999987 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :6█0█15█14█1█2█12█11█10█3█9█8█7█5█4█13█6█0█15█14█1█2█12█11█10█3█9█8█7█5█4█13█6█0█15█14█1█2█12█11█10█3█9█8█7█5█4█13█6█0█15█14█1█2█12█11█10█3█9█8█ ...too much output! < 1363697246 460452 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :9,9(it's just blocks) < 1363697553 152245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : in fact the real PH hasn't even seen farscape. it's just that 2/3rds of his 3-person IRC team really like it <-- is there any overlap with the team that plays DMM? < 1363697642 959944 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does dmm like farscape? < 1363697669 600747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea. < 1363697754 180533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh farscape is australian too. probably there is overlap with the actor team too... < 1363697768 660348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*- too < 1363697814 500413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote i don't think hitler made any bf derivatives < 1363697819 110297 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :986) i don't think hitler made any bf derivatives < 1363698311 880396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The median welcoming channel on Freenode. You have been warned. | #esoteric is supposed to be about esoteric programming languages, but is really a couple of dozen people being weird | Newsflash: fungot has been writing spam for money. | Logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1363698888 592920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363698945 32947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, I just got an email from X, with reply-to: set to X's address, asking for a reply at Y < 1363698991 682220 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1363699242 369289 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1363699292 15873 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1363699331 563266 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363699362 729401 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363699384 333719 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1363699384 632407 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 191311Z 07011KT 3/4SM R06L/2600FT/U R06R/2600FT/N -SN BLSN VV004 M02/M03 A2988 RMK SN8 SLP121 < 1363699441 545201 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupidweatherstupidpublictransportationdidn'tgetmycoffeeyetaaaaaaurgh! < 1363699448 181564 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning all! < 1363699802 722401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afternoon boily < 1363699813 31869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i was just about to say that. < 1363699814 970111 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been stupidly cold here all this month. Overall average temperature for March has been around -8 °C; it's supposed to be around -1..-1.5 °C. Someone must've forgotten to bump the season variable. < 1363699828 733007 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you should file a complaint < 1363699873 523711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, maybe there's a web form. They might send me a gift card or something. < 1363699885 543403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i _maybe_ kind of possibly think the wiki might currently be having a spam problem. < 1363699905 752182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah but I can't fix it, I'm at work < 1363699911 463194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll fix it when I get home, if nobody else does first < 1363699918 711032 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, not home < 1363699920 543090 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not-work < 1363699942 719030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION phones ais523's employers to sack him so he can fix the wiki
< 1363699972 797800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: err, this is a really ironic day to make that threat < 1363699979 161979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1363699989 478582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the last day of contact with this year's cohort of students, and I'm leaving at the end of the academic year < 1363700001 232305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I hardly need to turn up from now on < 1363700009 581841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent! < 1363700018 142055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pesky students < 1363700069 931880 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I enjoy working with them < 1363700203 853810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although one of the highlights of weirdness of today's marking session was that one of the students had (in Java) created a property in a class, with the same name as the class < 1363700208 471959 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but but. you pointed it out. soooo you must care about spoilers ! < 1363700232 893481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: >_> <_> <_< < 1363700234 62215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is permitted by the compiler, but which cannot be done without violating capitalization constraints, as well as several other things wrong with it < 1363700236 860603 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but seriously sorry, I didn't know the logs stripped colors :<) < 1363700246 842669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, capitalization conventions < 1363700253 912844 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: several clients strip colors too, I have mine set to do that < 1363700267 625006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you can't know the background color, and most clients don't understand codes to set the background color < 1363700269 503516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: they don't _strip_ them. they just don't interpret them as colors. < 1363700335 330911 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez. is there some portable way then? < 1363700346 844915 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always been told to use ^C0,0 or something like that... < 1363700393 533610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only portable way to do spoilers in IRC is to put them in a different channel/query/privmsg < 1363700413 511679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the ^C0,0 thing not only isn't portable, it also only works in mIRC < 1363700413 720870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :once upon a time that was the kind of thing rot13 was used for. < 1363700421 243341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rot13 could work < 1363700437 823678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it works in irssi < 1363700441 425180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, at least one unspoiled NetHack channel uses rot13 < 1363700449 861896 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works in irs-- what oerjan said <.< < 1363700464 50361 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it works in mibbit too? maybe xchat? < 1363700467 769045 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works in the most bestest client of them all, the incredible weechat. < 1363700469 952993 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that many clients < 1363700569 974761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it only work in irssi if the terminal happens to have a background that's the same color as a black foreground? < 1363700582 62846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as I discovered working on AceHack, this is not the same thing as a black background) < 1363700588 955176 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0,0 sets the background too, I think? < 1363700591 671380 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... oops < 1363700595 320117 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^C0,0 sets the background too, I think? < 1363700603 615891 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, on my client, ^C0,0 is all white < 1363700606 494834 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ^C1,1 is all black < 1363700625 212041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the background color part of ^C isn't interpreted by that many clients < 1363700631 34137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :frequently you're talking to someone using mIRC < 1363700636 33029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just get stray commas and numbers < 1363700694 402351 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :0,0Works in HexChat as well < 1363700704 732236 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's ^K0,0 < 1363700722 983861 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0,0works here, and it's annoying. I have to go and use my mouse! < 1363700728 852271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: my irssi/putty setup understands background colors. < 1363700745 224087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, fair enough < 1363700800 519922 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I use too... I guess I'll try to be more careful though since it doesn't work with everything < 1363700860 923338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely do recall i changed the white color for putty way back because it was actually a kind of light grey by default. < 1363701014 832404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: on my client ^C0,0 is kind of medium light grey. < 1363701032 428389 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as they're the same color I guess? ^^;; < 1363701073 322808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's ok, then i can see that the spoilers are _there_ :P (unlike some of that unicode people use. wtf chooses "invisible" as the representation for unknown characters?) < 1363701118 602904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode has a character for representing unknown characters, that's what arguably should get used. < 1363701138 763062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...of course it has. < 1363701171 93721 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I don't know what should be done if the system can't find a font with a glyph for U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER in it. < 1363701261 193047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that is the problem :P < 1363701299 270643 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTK appears to handle unknown characters by rendering a square with the hex digits of the codepoint in it < 1363701303 933630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a rectangle, for the astral planes < 1363701645 78161 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wonders of unicode, and mystic characters like ᢆ. < 1363701760 682703 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1363701761 44406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1363701805 782671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not quite square for me even for BMP characters; the aspect ratio is around 0.82. < 1363702115 66517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1363702304 719081 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1363703150 601574 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1363703861 736057 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1363703952 123811 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1363704543 55229 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Inspace < 1363704545 580085 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :best template < 1363704818 516852 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it in lua? < 1363704907 564449 :lmt!~user_name@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363704930 264517 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1363705502 628286 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1363705700 857853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363705880 327099 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363705970 844272 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363706027 868772 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1363706116 776471 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363706250 212160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I deleted the spam, also expanded an existing spam filter to help stop repeats in the future; there haven't been false positives recently, and if the spam continues I'll expand the filter further in order to do the delete+block automatically (after giving humans a chance to back out) < 1363706250 421113 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1363706321 492759 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, do we require email verification before editing? < 1363706335 375518 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how effective that is, they could probably generate emails too < 1363706353 844229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no; we rely people to answer a question about esolangs whose answer is very obvious from the relevant article < 1363706366 126035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they do that, we also require the first edit to not fit a recognised spambot pattern < 1363706379 245911 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet bots manage to bypass it sometimes? < 1363706387 526077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just expanded the pattern < 1363706390 167094 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1363706404 875534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to allow for the latest burst of spam < 1363706418 986920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the first edit does fit the pattern, the user is told to go edit the sandbox instead to prove they're human < 1363706422 867951 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused anyone would care adding code to handle such a custom "captcha system" for such a small site < 1363706431 87176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the warning page has a clickable submit button < 1363706432 165527 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't seem worth the time < 1363706447 775631 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far the spambots appear to be using the submit button on the warning page < 1363706454 509708 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1363706465 216982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a sufficiently clear sign that they're spambots that if they continue, I'll make it automatically block anyone who clicks it :) < 1363706480 558374 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1363706482 299041 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1363706500 281107 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-29-1.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1363706500 786572 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :*.net *.split < 1363706500 786651 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1363706508 1702 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, though clicking through two dialogs or such after each other is a fairly common human error < 1363706515 697528 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so best design it to avoid such mistakes < 1363706534 167898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yeah; that's part of the reason I haven't set it to block anyone yet < 1363706539 798672 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though there's the possibility of appealing < 1363706551 583850 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1363706585 599149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the mere presence of an appeal would be a sign that it was a human…) < 1363706594 666244 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1363706604 453630 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until the spambots catch on! < 1363706662 294914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but fighting against really really sophisticated spambots is kind-of fun < 1363706681 168573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they tend to only target Wikipedia, because no other site is really valuable enough to use that sort of spambot tweaking on < 1363706753 495160 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, exactly, which is why I'm surprised that some of them managed to answer the esolang quiz < 1363706763 137920 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did they bother handling that < 1363706790 37055 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there data on how many fail it? < 1363706792 787675 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1363706804 910002 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :the access log presumably < 1363706820 72298 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, FireFly < 1363706826 135126 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't seen you in a while? < 1363706829 421779 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'll have a problem once a spambot passes the Turing test < 1363706856 271493 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1363706862 959960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I've heard that captcha-solving tends to be outsourced to humans nowadays < 1363706869 453293 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1363706876 331300 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and it is worth it on the esolang wiki? < 1363706881 673280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: and yeah, I don't have data on how many fail the captcha, just how many succeed < 1363706885 652197 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no but they don't know that < 1363706896 213209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we put nofollow on all external links but they don't seem to care about that either < 1363706896 460368 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1363706916 873513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the occasional spambot actually does, they try to put a landing page on Esolang that entices humans to click a link < 1363706927 200236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and try to SEO the landing page rather than the link target < 1363706938 229483 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1363707306 328771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a vaguely clever idea, at least < 1363707332 657330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google have been trying to crack down on it for a while now < 1363708160 21110 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.19.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363708327 348315 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1363708342 741588 :lmt!~user_name@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1363708559 777289 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.19.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1363708788 615434 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1363708810 187060 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363708812 171165 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1363709160 74934 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.19.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363709496 466911 :essakki!~essakki@116.203.130.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363709630 353600 :essakki!~essakki@116.203.130.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1363709660 402940 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1363709917 731053 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I am 17 actually < 1363709938 337798 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hope thsi helps < 1363709947 145821 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363709983 862330 :essakki!~essakki@116.203.130.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1363709997 611476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome essakki < 1363710003 696302 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​12es07s05akki: Wel04c04ome to the 11international 04hub for e02sote02ric pr05o08gramming03 l12ang07uage design and dep12loyment! For mo06re inform08a08t08ion, check out our w13iki: ht05tp://e10solangs.org/wiki/Ma02in_P07age. (For the ot04he08r ki09nd of 09e11soteri09ca, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)03 < 1363710021 214494 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, there is definitely something wrong with the "strip colors" option in Konversation < 1363710025 244441 :essakki!~essakki@116.203.130.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wht u doin < 1363710029 924566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me, that was almost all regular color except that the parenthetical is orange < 1363710090 591092 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wht, that's a nice one < 1363710234 58241 :essakki!~essakki@116.203.130.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh!!!!, how ur nw < 1363710386 901078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: If it was exactly the parenthetical bit, that's curious, since there's not even any color change directly at the (. < 1363710415 610771 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :essakki: i think you may be a wee bit lost < 1363710503 943871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that and the full stop after "Main_Page" < 1363710508 432547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I think I know what's happening < 1363710539 415237 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone send something that consists of some white text, some colored text, a link within that colored text, more of that colored text, then some text in a different color? < 1363710567 9210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i nominate fizzie < 1363710580 255639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, by "white text" I mean default color < 1363710584 778649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like < 1363710599 796312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :text 1text http://example.com text 2text < 1363710619 55729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks OK when I send it, but perhaps if it's in someone else's message… < 1363710626 65166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!text 1text http://example.com text 2text < 1363710626 640369 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :text 1text http://example.com text 2text < 1363710629 89886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1363710651 168296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does fungot strip color codes? < 1363710652 71842 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: good morning. < 1363710668 254440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it might < 1363710684 419621 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +.>,[.,]<.!action test < 1363710684 694512 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
action test
< 1363710687 594223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1363710849 236327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not. < 1363710858 372914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "age. (For the ot" was all in one colour. < 1363710862 574520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm kind of food-making here.) < 1363710991 656529 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks to me like recovering after the link is what made the color code actually appear < 1363710991 880731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(orange, fwiw) < 1363710991 880918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but perhaps not < 1363710992 90233 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some white text 05some colored text, a link within http://example.com/example.html more of it 07some text in a different color. < 1363710992 90520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all appears white to me < 1363710992 90646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, hmm < 1363710992 90766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it about `relcome < 1363710992 299052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome test < 1363710992 299158 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08test: Welcome07 06to09 the intern02at10ional hub 06for08 esoteric programming language design and d03ep10loyment! F07or 11more 13infor09mat05io04n02, check out our wiki05: htt11p://es08olan13gs13.org06/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind o08f e10soterica14, try #esote10ric14 09o06n irc.dal05.07net.) < 1363710992 299247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, `relcome pretty consistently colors everything after the link < 1363710992 626725 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1363710992 835654 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!abc1def http://example.com. ghi < 1363710992 835839 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc1def http://example.com. ghi < 1363710992 835946 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, no < 1363710992 836054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. | colorize < 1363710994 256272 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​10Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fug < 1363710999 856734 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!abc1def http://exam%C2ple.com. ghi < 1363711000 312640 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc1def http://exam%C2ple.com. ghi < 1363711005 657052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's not right at all. That was all in one color. < 1363711006 605839 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no color in anything but `relcome yet < 1363711018 735505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/*r* < 1363711020 697267 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/colorize \ bin/forget \ bin/fortune \ bin/frink \ bin/interp \ bin/joustreport \ bin/jousturl \ bin/karma \ bin/karma- \ bin/karma+ \ bin/learn \ bin/logurl \ bin/luarocks \ bin/luarocks-admin \ bin/macro \ bin/marco \ bin/oerjan \ bin/ord \ bin/pastefortunes \ bin/pastekarma \ bin/prefixes \ bin/quoerjan \ bin/quørjan \ bin/r13 \ bin/rainword < 1363711029 776079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/colorize has colour too. < 1363711042 552424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo foobarbazquux | colorize < 1363711044 533920 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0711f07o14ob11a10r09b07a05z06q14u05u03x09 < 1363711060 62077 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess the lorem ipsum was just too long. < 1363711068 774162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!​test: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information check out 9our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica try #esoteric on irc.dal.net. < 1363711069 297118 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​test: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information check out 9our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoter ... < 1363711076 220740 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1363711083 835909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco. | colorize < 1363711085 844758 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​05L13orem ipsu04m do06l14or sit amet,13 consec02tet04ur adipisicing el07it, sed do eiusmod08 temp11or incid08idunt ut 08labo11re et dolor11e05 magna http10://12esolangs.or02g/wiki/06Mai03n_05Pa11ge. 09Ut 07en14im ad minim ve07niam, qu13is nos14trud06 exerci05tat09ion04 ullamco. < 1363711092 550456 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that apeared colored for me < 1363711095 100059 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363711097 551625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should be essentially equivalent to relcome. < 1363711101 465413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyan from the full stop onwards < 1363711106 222160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :white before there < 1363711114 95017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does the cyan start to your view? < 1363711122 222166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I didn't say anything y'all didn't know. < 1363711132 385907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: At the "ge." of "Main_Page." < 1363711150 324663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's inside the link < 1363711161 779772 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's the color the end of the link is in. < 1363711169 717669 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this bug is hilarious < 1363711171 286344 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!http://exam%C1ple.com. test < 1363711171 707322 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://exam%C1ple.com. test < 1363711174 437670 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/colorize bin/colorise < 1363711178 122523 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1363711178 925640 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :en_NZ, people < 1363711179 250801 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1363711182 46414 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1363711182 741826 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`env < 1363711184 123304 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :TERM=linux \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ HACKENV=/hackenv \ PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin \ PWD=/hackenv \ LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ SHLVL=0 \ HOME=/tmp < 1363711186 509075 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :en_NZ < 1363711188 627456 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/colorize bin/colorise < 1363711192 78147 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1363711192 343275 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1363711193 376640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1363711194 683631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :u is a thing too < 1363711195 880827 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1363711197 764230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna http://example.com/different_link.html how about it? Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco. | colorize < 1363711198 521910 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/colorize bin/colourise < 1363711199 881843 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09Lorem ipsum d14o11lor s02it amet, c05onsectetur a06dipisi12cing09 e09lit, sed do eiusmod03 t11emp10or incididunt ut la09bore e14t 14d09olore08 magna h09ttp://example.co02m12/d07i11fferent_link.html how11 a08bout i05t? 06Ut05 06enim ad minim veni13am, qu08is nostr11ud exercitatio03n u05llamc04o. < 1363711200 192288 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1363711202 522946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln bin/colori{s,z}e < 1363711202 778774 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1363711203 757538 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: accessing `bin/colorise': No such file or directory < 1363711204 29196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how do you know "colorise" is correct in NZ english? < 1363711204 437186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1363711206 315204 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1363711206 616317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln bin/colori{s,z}e < 1363711208 47787 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: accessing `bin/colorise': No such file or directory < 1363711213 51582 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it was a mistake! < 1363711216 394613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blach. < 1363711217 214437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know colourise is < 1363711222 522793 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://google.7ca/ < 1363711223 499166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: don't use the bot so fast < 1363711225 795505 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://google.7ca/ foo bar baz < 1363711230 334544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: second appears orange < 1363711233 599081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the foo bar baz < 1363711235 79156 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yep, that's the bug then < 1363711241 653660 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: can you tell me what your input was? < 1363711248 422475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/colo* < 1363711250 338984 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/colorize < 1363711262 180565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln bin/colorize bin/colorise bin/colourize bin/colourise < 1363711263 744690 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: target `bin/colourise' is not a directory < 1363711265 460567 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see < 1363711266 400290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where there is a difference between British and US spelling (such as cancelling/canceling and travelled/traveled), the British spelling is almost universally used. With "-our" words like colour/color or behaviour/behavior the spelling of "-our" is always used.[36] One common exception to this rule is fulfill, where New Zealand favours the US usage fulfill over the British fulfil. < 1363711268 97176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1363711269 453942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: There's just a color-change at the "ca" of the link. < 1363711272 969313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In words that may be spelled with either an -ise or an -ize suffix (such as organise/organize) New Zealand English, like Australian English, mainly prefers -ise. This contrasts with American English, where -ize is generally preferred, and British English, where -ise is more frequent but -ize is preferred by some (the Oxford spelling).[37] In New Zealand it is not wrong to use either. < 1363711275 211252 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ^C7 just after the period < 1363711278 784822 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for f in bin/colorise bin/colourize bin/colourise; do ln bin/colorize $f; done < 1363711278 999005 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/colorize bin/colourise < 1363711280 87252 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's the right spelling for hackego standard en_NZ < 1363711282 415199 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1363711284 496193 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: accessing `bin/colorize': No such file or directory \ ln: accessing `bin/colorize': No such file or directory \ ln: accessing `bin/colorize': No such file or directory < 1363711286 315088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: OK < 1363711289 80486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1363711289 482620 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why en_NZ? < 1363711290 945548 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1363711292 661298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for f in bin/colorise bin/colourize bin/colourise; do ln bin/colorize $f; done < 1363711296 588513 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1363711298 481193 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: my theory is so that people will ask "why en_NZ"? < 1363711304 318470 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm hoping that's the answer < 1363711311 491669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think pretty much every channel regular (apart from the one responsible) has asked that at some point < 1363711316 977408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't.
< 1363711326 60835 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that still leaves the original at the incorrect location for en_NZ... < 1363711330 650802 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363711332 470132 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I don't think hg does links properly < 1363711333 190468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's ln, not ln -s < 1363711333 620477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "original"? < 1363711335 663548 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1363711336 524342 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1363711337 124450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's symmetrical < 1363711339 302810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's a hard link. < 1363711340 200952 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/colorize bin/colourise < 1363711341 938351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the point. < 1363711343 874036 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1363711344 354628 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, hard links < 1363711345 720945 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1363711346 815151 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well those are a pain to maintain < 1363711347 235961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, I'm not sure ln understands hardlinks < 1363711348 67827 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1363711348 945199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for f in bin/colorise bin/colourize bin/colourise; do ln bin/colorize $f; done < 1363711350 534153 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: creating hard link `bin/colorise': File exists \ ln: creating hard link `bin/colourize': File exists \ ln: creating hard link `bin/colourise': File exists < 1363711352 30219 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. plenty of things don't maintain them across edits < 1363711362 984496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -lh bin/colourize < 1363711363 283360 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Emacs has customizable behaviour for that < 1363711364 459968 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `/bin/ls --help' for more information. \ /bin/ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `/bin/ls --help' for more information. < 1363711368 658778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'll have to find out how hg does it, won't we. < 1363711368 898768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -lh bin/colourise < 1363711369 137037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -lh bin/colourize < 1363711369 384409 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 271 Mar 19 16:42 bin/colourise < 1363711370 801990 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 271 Mar 19 16:42 bin/colourize < 1363711378 451192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure that's taking extra space on the disk < 1363711378 831412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is useful when editing a file which you own, but aren't a member of the group that the file belongs to < 1363711379 471670 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why wouldn't ln understand hardlinks < 1363711382 200497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -li bin/colo* < 1363711383 210445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway are you just trying to waste time < 1363711383 942547 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :735316 -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 271 Mar 19 16:42 bin/colorise \ 737653 -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 271 Mar 19 16:42 bin/colorize \ 735415 -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 271 Mar 19 16:42 bin/colourise \ 737132 -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 271 Mar 19 16:42 bin/colourize < 1363711392 869208 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it seems pointless to clutter up bin with a bunch of names for the same thing < 1363711393 186442 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: typo, I meant I wasn't sure hg understood hardlinks < 1363711397 631474 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if it's easy for them to get out of sync < 1363711401 472143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'm the one trying to waste time. You're ruining what was a perfectly working system. < 1363711401 754933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway those files all have a link count of 1 < 1363711403 982082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and different inodes < 1363711405 268960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because lots of stuff is inconsistent about whether it maintains hrad links or not) < 1363711408 216304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hard < 1363711410 275109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so basically, it doesn't work < 1363711411 962666 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they will inevitably get out of sync for no reason < 1363711417 231878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because hackego doesn't support hardlinks < 1363711427 324807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine, let's make them symlinks. < 1363711429 34097 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps having shell scripts that exec the colourise name would be reasonable, though it seems pointless, but this isn't workable < 1363711432 163786 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1363711432 928414 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1363711435 44881 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/colorize bin/colourise < 1363711436 855261 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot stat `bin/colorize': No such file or directory < 1363711437 428159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :simple < 1363711440 849243 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, what now? < 1363711447 11650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/colo* < 1363711449 62242 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/colorise \ bin/colourise \ bin/colourize < 1363711450 437076 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 2458 < 1363711450 714598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly we need a cronjob that randomly renames them now and again < 1363711452 554193 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1363711454 102123 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/colorize bin/colourise < 1363711456 490965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which cron < 1363711457 675915 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1363711458 358217 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1363711458 569220 :Lymia!~moe@tccd243-174.tccd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1363711458 777892 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1363711458 989811 :Lymia!~moe@tccd243-174.tccd.edu QUIT :Changing host < 1363711458 989949 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1363711461 25128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1363711462 634363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which crontab < 1363711464 177485 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/crontab < 1363711470 640675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :``run ls bin/colo* < 1363711472 98479 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `run: not found < 1363711474 310592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/colo* < 1363711474 663768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if putting things in the crontab would actually have an effect < 1363711476 1979 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/colourise < 1363711476 269848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is no < 1363711505 883434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/colourise bin/colo; for f in colorize colourize colorise colourise; do ln -s colo bin/$f; done < 1363711509 180448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. < 1363711510 155025 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1363711519 553616 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot:  < 1363711520 226982 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: ( definitely impossible) analysis to figure out how to operate on characters' ascii values in scheme48, use non-blocking i/ o < 1363711529 168163 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1363711531 570141 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1363711532 163448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin is already way too big < 1363711536 397664 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure why you care about this < 1363711540 335211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -r colorize bin < 1363711542 784346 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/relcome:welcome "$@" | colorize < 1363711548 571705 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/colorize/colourise' bin/relcome < 1363711550 2501 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 20: unterminated `s' command < 1363711552 535295 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/colorize/colourise/' bin/relcome < 1363711555 434400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally I'd get rid of all the stupid welcome variants < 1363711556 543307 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1363711557 578373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/relcome < 1363711559 96932 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | colourise < 1363711560 281468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if relcome exposed a bug < 1363711566 827113 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god's in his heaven, all's right with the world < 1363711570 646694 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome fungot < 1363711571 588661 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: i came to it but mostly ignored its output into js, or are you just referring to people dying and getting " buggy" though < 1363711571 871528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You're the one messing up a perfectly working thing. < 1363711573 277742 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​05fung07ot03: W14elcome to 04the08 internati08o03nal hu02b for 02esoteric pro08g06r13am04ming language desi12gn and deploy12ment! For more08 information, check out o11ur 05wiki06: 10http://e06solangs.org02/wiki/Main_Pag02e. (For th10e other14 kind of esote13rica, try03 #esote08ric on irc04.da14l.ne11t.) < 1363711587 262580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see anything messed up at all? < 1363711587 886803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/{colourise,rainbow} < 1363711591 692706 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1363711592 437226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except ais523's colour filter < 1363711605 832184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/colurise/rainbow/g' bin/relcome < 1363711607 467001 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1363711612 635312 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see you trying to waste a lot of time passive-aggressively because you apparently object to what i'm doing for no apparent reason, though < 1363711620 592322 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is kind of a pattern here < 1363711635 646254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am trying every compromise I can think of to your silly spelling. < 1363711648 353663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :colorize was a perfectly working script. < 1363711657 193558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You didn't write it; you don't really get to name it. < 1363711666 981245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you should petition Gregor to change HackEgo's language setting or something equally pointless or omething < 1363711672 451785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :never seen a bigger molehill mountain < 1363711687 66557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo's language setting has no bearing on spelling of script names. < 1363711690 489670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls /usr/bin/*color* < 1363711692 72530 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/dircolors < 1363711694 2782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls /usr/bin/*colour* < 1363711695 602778 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/ls: cannot access /usr/bin/*colour*: No such file or directory \ /bin/ls: cannot access /usr/bin/*colour*: No such file or directory < 1363711707 559261 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION munches on popcorn.
< 1363711714 555629 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: hi < 1363711738 35750 :carado!~carado@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1363711738 914391 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, "colourise" is a fabulous word. Two cross-Atlantic spelling disagreements in one word! < 1363711770 552309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is 17 going on 18 < 1363711781 206816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I'll disagree with Canadians, thank you very much. < 1363711815 248632 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In the early 18th century, English spelling was not standardized. Differences became noticeable after the publishing of influential dictionaries. Today's British English spellings follow, for the most part, those of Samuel Johnson's A Dictionary of the English Language (1755), whereas many American English spellings follow Noah Webster's An American Dictionary of the English Language (1828).[1 < 1363711815 494727 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :]" < 1363711821 164694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote monochrom going.on < 1363711821 409970 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monochrom says: I am 17-ary, going on 18-ary, I can take curry of you < 1363711916 93205 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363711921 789126 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363711941 107059 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://example.7com test < 1363711947 172439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :got it < 1363711969 548198 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1363712389 729667 :carado!~carado@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1363712406 237031 :carado!~carado@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1363712567 724971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: bug filed (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317034), thanks for helping me to debug < 1363712932 350697 :essakki!~essakki@116.203.130.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1363712954 26019 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, essakki < 1363712969 24669 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome essakki < 1363712970 882750 :essakki!~essakki@116.203.130.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya welcome, < 1363712971 120038 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :essakki: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1363712999 648871 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1363713005 650937 :essakki!~essakki@116.203.130.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb u m/f? < 1363713021 818614 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how this is relevant to our interaction < 1363713031 770876 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1363713040 159800 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363713041 820484 :essakki!~essakki@116.203.130.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jnnj4 < 1363713047 577635 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1363713047 888093 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 191700Z 09009KT 5/8SM R06L/3500FT/N R06R/3000V5000FT/U -SN DRSN VV005 M01/M02 A2983 RMK SN8 /S12/ SLP102 < 1363713055 796490 :essakki!~essakki@116.203.130.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya thats nice < 1363713067 23076 :essakki!~essakki@116.203.130.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wht u doin < 1363713097 702363 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Times crossword < 1363713098 978940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :essakki: do you understand what this channel is for? < 1363713131 759846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, out of the channels that people stumble into by mistake, this one is quite low down the list < 1363713132 47606 :essakki!~essakki@116.203.130.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kindly exp me ais < 1363713142 660743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What *is* this channel for? < 1363713169 757177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's a community of people who originally started talking to each other because they were interested in esoteric programming languages < 1363713174 628823 :essakki!~essakki@116.203.130.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wht taneb < 1363713177 97492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1363713189 605694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it for now? < 1363713192 361145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mostly still are, although it turned out that there were a bunch of other moderately common interests too < 1363713209 753672 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a channel for topics that interest esoteric programmers < 1363713219 461255 :essakki!~essakki@116.203.130.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, me out of that, < 1363713248 347935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it the languages or the programmers which are esoteric? < 1363713265 613396 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mindset in general, I think, shachaf < 1363713283 626167 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seeing as we have at least one IOCCC winner in the channel, I'd lean to the latter < 1363713327 939361 :essakki!~essakki@116.203.130.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wch country ur < 1363713365 534302 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once again, not particularly relevant < 1363713385 793594 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :ais523 > 1363713385 815927 NAMES :#esoteric < 1363713397 69603 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION grabs pockys and watch
< 1363713412 214623 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what's the watch for? < 1363713416 743683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: fwiw, "where are you from?" or the like, if it doesn't have an obvious reason for being asked in context, is pretty much a very clear indicator of a subset of people who turn up to channels with no idea what they're about and never do anything useful < 1363713424 924946 :essakki!~essakki@116.203.130.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye me want to quit this for my tmrw job < 1363713433 482373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1363713434 657192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why, but this pattern is so far 100% consistent IME; it's probably less consistent than that in practice and I've just been lucky < 1363713444 679845 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll miss you essakki < 1363713465 463516 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I know, I just don't really know how to react < 1363713475 901674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 KICK #esoteric essakki :in the wrong channel, and hasn't given us enough information to direct us to the right one < 1363713478 548089 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it happens that I have the same watch model with random people. I think it's a sign that my qi is particularly aligned today. < 1363713486 586249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's the usual reaction < 1363713490 593656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is it a mustard watch? < 1363713499 668466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: I originally typoed the nick as "elliott" due to a tab-complete mistake, and had to correct it < 1363713507 234707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 MODE #esoteric -o :ais523 > 1363713507 256530 NAMES :#esoteric < 1363713511 600365 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, I prefer sriracha. < 1363713518 676742 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm ok with being kicked < 1363713523 547332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free, any time < 1363713524 889648 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1363713527 57834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoguh don't ban me < 1363713529 139985 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need #esoteric on 2 < 1363713534 564565 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise my channel numbering scheme is messed up < 1363713541 766231 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1363713550 201551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi AnotherTest < 1363713552 123063 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wch country ur < 1363713555 774218 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah but I dislike kicking people for fun < 1363713557 246487 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hey, I remember you quit for a few months a while ago < 1363713557 851735 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry, that was an easy one.) < 1363713563 848959 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never asked you what made you come back < 1363713574 614927 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yeah, the "if it doesn't have an obvious reason for being asked in context" was directed at that and one other situation < 1363713604 36861 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: probably everything was terrible < 1363713610 293036 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a good chance that was a troll. < 1363713611 462607 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I forgot it was terrible < 1363713618 230602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: trolls would be less consistent in their pattern < 1363713624 299960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not quite sure what causes the pattern < 1363713626 899058 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes go on, eg, Omegle, and pretend to have no idea what people mean by "m/f" et al < 1363713628 727685 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1363713631 643208 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh okay < 1363713637 134582 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 actually tempted to me to ask where someone is from out of context sometime < 1363713637 424161 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: :D oh that's fun < 1363713643 58363 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it doesn't seem that weird a thing to ask < 1363713646 895848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they turn up to a channel, often pick on individual members of it who look active, ask for a bunch of personal information for no reason, and do nothing else < 1363713649 219258 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You f?" < 1363713655 146077 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, what is omegle? < 1363713658 851496 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Nah, I'm t" < 1363713664 179768 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: actually the first time I went on Omegle I actually didn't know < 1363713666 456173 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1363713680 500127 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, it's a website that puts you in an anonymous IM conversation with a random other person < 1363713684 161324 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: a really stupid chatting site where it connects you to a random stranger < 1363713686 49077 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1363713694 634239 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure why I would ever want that < 1363713697 440385 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :but okay < 1363713700 523883 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :The site is less stupid than most of the people who lurk around it < 1363713711 841630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: same idea as chatroulette? < 1363713717 525183 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, that doesn't bode well < 1363713719 869804 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: probably < 1363713730 74703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I have it on moderately good authority that chatroulette was actually interesting once < 1363713731 711785 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can specify tags and it tries to connect you to people with the same tags < 1363713732 635811 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not for very long < 1363713734 740964 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the Homestuck variant of the site where you can pick a character to RP and be randomly matched with another person < 1363713735 59800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before it became famous < 1363713818 280696 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, some of my friends RP on that occasionally < 1363713825 123163 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the 'm/f' thing reminds me of some wonderful instances of gender confusion too < 1363713835 377109 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in another channel there was once a thing where some random newbie joined < 1363713852 479901 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and two friends of mine were there (boyfriend and girlfriend) but the guy thought they were both female < 1363713855 970108 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they went with it < 1363713858 636393 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pretended to be lesbians < 1363713861 506439 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was the funniest thing < 1363713865 801619 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1363713866 82974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Your irssi window doesn't have to close when you leave a channel. < 1363713873 719049 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did the truth ever emerge? < 1363713884 234782 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the guy figured it out (he left later, didn't come back, just some random person) < 1363713896 168147 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he was using the 'nick ends with a == female' heuristic < 1363713920 613178 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: convincing people on random forums that I'm female without making any statements that pertain to one gender or the other is something I do on occasion < 1363713925 836555 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I actually had a guy ask me out on a date repeatedly < 1363713929 263346 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1363713930 841930 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because he thought I was a female < 1363713945 535430 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :acting very defensive when the question of gender comes up is the usual way < 1363713950 502567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this only works due to people's default gender assumptions) < 1363713950 847733 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny thing is, I tried to break it several times < 1363713958 650024 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he didn't got it < 1363713962 234077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: online, or real life? < 1363713969 595541 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :online < 1363713974 321206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :online it'd be awkward because all the nicks I've seen you use have military ranks in them < 1363713976 294005 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you implying I might look like a girl < 1363713983 535362 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1363713984 802663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and military causes people to assume male because of the way the balance works < 1363713992 600702 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my nick was "Ae" < 1363713992 911808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in real life, most soldiers are male < 1363713993 916119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :People used to mistake me for female all the time both online and off. < 1363714005 474715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowadays it only happens online. < 1363714006 608700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have no idea what you look like, and am not really sure it matters < 1363714057 204444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it does in that context I guess < 1363714069 245352 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my mind, I picture shachaf as an impish imp. < 1363714084 136475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't normally mentally picture people at all < 1363714099 447746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am unable to mentally picture people. < 1363714101 736593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I just decided to mentally picture elliott as looking like Michael Jordan, because it's amusingly incongruous < 1363714150 97192 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually picture people as a few ascii chars < 1363714168 281406 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1363714170 947928 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works pretty well most of the time but then sometimes THEY CHANGE NICKS and I get confused < 1363714180 513298 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like this? < 1363714180 965867 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net NICK :atriq < 1363714186 70001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb................................... < 1363714188 483918 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1363714190 967085 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i picture them as a coloured cp437 char < 1363714197 808304 :Lymia!~moe@tccd250-2.tccd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1363714198 93955 :Lymia!~moe@tccd250-2.tccd.edu QUIT :Changing host < 1363714198 94119 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1363714198 603546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: racist < 1363714203 259555 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also when guys have girlish nicks or girls have boyish names it gets weird < 1363714214 447505 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :girlish < 1363714217 332202 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to tell the difference between white nerd dudes, they all look the same :p < 1363714228 762038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I disagree, I think < 1363714238 397463 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't take long to learn how to tell them apart < 1363714244 349491 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I used to do that but my new client colours everyone in yellow < 1363714252 491655 :girlish!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm white, I'm definitely a nerd, I'll have to check for the dude part. < 1363714254 871740 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they have some bits of entropy? < 1363714259 457382 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also quite a few people in this channel know what I actually look like) < 1363714260 723508 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like beard size < 1363714263 185307 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: remember our discussion about compatibility in Windows? < 1363714267 221586 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one word for you < 1363714274 293274 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like, whether they are "really tall" or "really really really tall" < 1363714276 646972 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr reading that the reason for the whole 'all x look the same' thing is that you train your face recognition when you're young < 1363714280 351024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: we need a Windows dating service < 1363714286 748550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo "octaves of entropy" < 1363714290 173536 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh i also str reading this in a jared diamond book, so... < 1363714304 132506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Hey, you should name a band that. < 1363714305 907644 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C:¥Program Files₩My Application\Foo < 1363714307 310219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm not convinced, it doesn't take me long to determine how to distinguish people in a culture I'm unfamiliar with, if I want to < 1363714324 691355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1363714332 795858 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, there was also research, apparently < 1363714346 928040 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : C:¥Program Files₩My Application\Foo <-- the fuck happened? < 1363714352 96736 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is mostly kidding on the "can't distinguish part", she's probably not much worse (?) than your average autistic mes
< 1363714353 53941 :girlish!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :boily < 1363714355 780754 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I get confused between British people frequently, despite having grown up with them < 1363714356 802318 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they showed babies picture of general primates and they were about as good at distinguishing monkeys as humans < 1363714357 88618 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mess < 1363714378 670796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't distinguish elliott and conal < 1363714379 909246 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and over time they got worse at monkeys, and better at humans, and then it specialised to race < 1363714383 418880 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And elliottt < 1363714389 143539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And elliottcable < 1363714390 678771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is elliottt someone else? < 1363714393 609262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1363714399 720375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ec is noticeably different from elliott < 1363714410 449134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trevor Elliott < 1363714411 966774 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't talked to conal enough to know how similar to elliott he/she is, though < 1363714423 475966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :conal is rather different < 1363714423 727901 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: so they trained newborns to recognize monkeys < 1363714431 601994 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened then? < 1363714433 849335 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1363714449 675642 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had them live among the monkeys and learn their ways < 1363714469 380513 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2005/09/17/469941.aspx < 1363714489 246979 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I think this might be a thing that varies on individual level quite a bit. I.e. I have a terrible memory wrt. connecting face and name. I can manage names of people I haven't seen just fine. And I can remember faces. I just have a hard time learning the connection. < 1363714510 450362 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same here < 1363714518 500019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember faces. < 1363714524 37173 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, thing is, neither of those previous chars looked like backslash to me. < 1363714525 713127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, quite a bit of apparently weird behaviour by dogs can be explained via assuming that the dogs are assuming that human societal structures work the same way as canine societal structures < 1363714527 325234 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the rest of the details are classified, but radiation levels in the congo have been elevated ever since < 1363714530 445355 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, sure you use UTF-8? < 1363714530 661812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't really remember names until I know the spelling. < 1363714545 983870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's rather similar for me; however, in teaching, you have to memorise a lot of people < 1363714553 340905 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I usually invent a spelling < 1363714555 715644 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that I would utterly fail at < 1363714569 239626 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this year I was a bit lazy in that, actually; it didn't hurt too much < 1363714581 641717 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :knowing which students are yours and which aren't is more important than being able to distinguish them from each other, though < 1363714586 517241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can always ask them who they are < 1363714586 763752 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, oh I see now < 1363714587 662851 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1363714636 578968 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he when I was in prepschool my english teacher kept looking at me for one or two months < 1363714638 111668 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, is it weird to mentally translate the names of fictional characters between languages? < 1363714644 993550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, they have a different name in different translations of the same canon < 1363714650 283812 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he never asked me my name or any class-related question < 1363714660 65069 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we developed a pretty cool look-only relationship < 1363714684 331451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you hear one of the names and translate it to the other mentally to understand better < 1363714685 278729 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: usually not < 1363714687 331788 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes ye < 1363714700 39528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(especially if it happens equally often in each direction) < 1363714721 94930 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my teachers has the tendency to accidentally reassign names < 1363714735 313489 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, he started calling me George for a couple of weeks once < 1363714775 376354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most extreme technique involves arbitrarily assigning a name to each of your students, then only using that name < 1363714791 536840 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then one day you tell him your actual name, and he says "really? you look a lot like george" < 1363714794 992237 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb < 1363714837 880809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome back Taneb < 1363714839 825446 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :back: Taneb: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1363714888 673277 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome A B C D < 1363714891 242442 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A: B: C: D: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1363714892 513566 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :back Taneb: are you any different from front Taneb? < 1363714900 987612 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haeY < 1363714952 301314 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1363714955 201992 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?mih ees uoy ,rorrim a ni kool uoy nehw hguoht < 1363714955 637340 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: bid id map msg < 1363714957 888854 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re: telling people apart, I find it very hard to tell people apart if I meet them around the same time and haven't interacted uch with them < 1363714977 969006 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/uch/much < 1363714982 870214 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ < 1363715031 834762 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw is the boardgamegeek down or something?) < 1363715069 207002 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel rather awkward when people come up to me and say, "Hey David, how are you doing?" and I can't remember ever seeing them before in my entire life < 1363715103 696645 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few weeks ago, someone came up to me and said "Hey, Nathan! Hi-five!" < 1363715110 362135 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gave him a hi-5 < 1363715114 951954 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never figured out who he was < 1363715119 14036 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when that happens I usually know that I know them, I just can't tell from where < 1363715139 427482 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soooo keep stalling the conversation until I can figure it out < 1363715154 233245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that was obviously me < 1363715159 781239 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teachers used to talk about me behind my back < 1363715166 943506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are you actually called Nathan? < 1363715168 773187 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they all knew who I was < 1363715170 740732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the story works both ways < 1363715172 877379 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes, I am < 1363715173 538672 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I didn't know them < 1363715179 283198 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have been approached by multiple people to talk about the way i climb stairs < 1363715191 679074 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, how do you climb stairs < 1363715191 925510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: is it particularly unusual? < 1363715196 597195 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they ever warn you about stairs? < 1363715202 380392 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: sometimes don't you feel sad that your name came so close from being a palydrome, but missed by one letter? < 1363715204 106736 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something to do with my arms, apparently < 1363715212 968157 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, nah < 1363715216 816954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, the method I got used to of descending a flight of stairs without using any of the individual stairs was a little unusual < 1363715245 809710 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a palindrome in the original Hebrew < 1363715260 260061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well Hebrew doesn't write vowels, and th is presumably one letter < 1363715270 42568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it'd transliterate most accurately as nþn, which is a palindrom < 1363715272 150775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*palindrome < 1363715302 817549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Hebrew uses a different n at the end of a word. < 1363715305 652375 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but then wouldn't you feel sad that the name came so close to being stable though 180° rotation < 1363715306 283401 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if you count that. < 1363715309 663873 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hmm < 1363715313 461244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I count that either < 1363715313 675757 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, forget what I just said < 1363715319 222120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess handwritten English uses a different s < 1363715326 821062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet words can still be considered palindromes if they end and start with s < 1363715330 989736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess I don't count it < 1363715354 124901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is actually a different letter as in a different codepoint/keyboard key/etc. < 1363715381 899740 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Handwritten english uses a different s? < 1363715384 834890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is in Greek too < 1363715402 37659 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: actually, it's not at the end of the world < 1363715412 947153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but after a point where you have to break the writing (like "g", except if you're French) < 1363715425 54061 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh, right < 1363715428 337741 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :The end of the world? < 1363715430 553544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the top of the s curls round to the bottom left if it's joining to something on the left < 1363715442 552227 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only letter we write differently in french depending on its position is n < 1363715447 910777 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in France, it's usual (even when writing English) to connect the s to the previous letter regardless of anything < 1363715457 127625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing is usual in france < 1363715463 255965 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, I haven't used cursive since elementary school < 1363715465 99556 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, in france we connect everything < 1363715468 597550 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we like being connected < 1363715474 70474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do it for the first letter of a word, though, I guess < 1363715474 497923 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame on you ThatOtherPerson < 1363715478 517058 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1363715478 914757 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1363715482 478713 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why the n is different < 1363715495 936783 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if in the first position it looks more like a script n < 1363715496 628485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: what context does n change in? < 1363715499 841137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, first position < 1363715518 892561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: I once went several months in a row without writing anything < 1363715529 781578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use computers so much more than pencil/paper < 1363715537 723416 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's in the middle or end of a word the thingy goes down to the left so it looks like two bridges instead of just the one < 1363715538 491303 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, in Hebrew Nathan is Nun-Tav-Nun? < 1363715591 108898 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1363715596 175228 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a palyndrom! < 1363715600 472805 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be nun-vat-nun < 1363715614 805828 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, I'm giving the names of the letters < 1363715641 45765 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, I'm giving a joke (you can find the name of that joke yourself) < 1363715655 691751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, spelled נתן < 1363715680 855840 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :נתן according to google translate < 1363715702 970372 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1363715722 152020 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to Google Translate, "David" is a palindrome in Hebrew < 1363715726 781676 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :דוד < 1363715740 159520 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, the wikipedia page for "Nathan (given name)" on Wikipedia has a picture of Nathan talking to David < 1363715746 893081 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously we were meant for eachother < 1363715754 998483 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1363715777 884421 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1363715791 134550 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1363715807 916649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: Now try "uncle" and "water heater". < 1363715829 796620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you can't do that, it's illegal! < 1363715838 145598 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ? < 1363715841 487196 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm an uncle??? < 1363715863 388640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, better, "boiler". < 1363715896 395733 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION points to himself ←
< 1363715899 841954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(These are pronounced "dod" and "dud" respectively.) < 1363715907 394116 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is so weird < 1363715909 364535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's "dud" as in "dude" but short. Not as in a dud.) < 1363715937 30315 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, had snow today < 1363715940 331560 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, ^ < 1363715945 252877 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa < 1363715947 366826 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not < 1363715951 642620 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We had a sort of drizzle < 1363715959 394179 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fo' shizzle. < 1363715959 806394 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember you complain about snow a few weeks ago :P < 1363715963 421709 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you live in Scandinavia < 1363715964 986215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cheating < 1363715968 927520 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's snowed where I am for several hundred years < 1363715970 565067 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, XD < 1363715972 896533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was sleet in Birmingham a couple of days ago < 1363715974 837776 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it has at all < 1363715982 351579 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well the spring is rather late this year < 1363715998 539775 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're in about the fifth spring of the year < 1363716004 227778 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's getting ridiculous < 1363716007 419596 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, approx where is that? < 1363716029 31197 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Ras Tanura, Saudi Arabia < 1363716042 107453 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :which wikipedia just told me means "cape oven" ... < 1363716054 820139 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1363716064 945358 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar OERT < 1363716065 407549 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1363716073 854598 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I don't think it snowed there any time recently < 1363716074 977589 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar OEDF < 1363716075 243186 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OEDF 191700Z 34008KT CAVOK 19/10 Q1012 NOSIG < 1363716077 399492 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what bit is that < 1363716092 478637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmm, metasepia is somehow connected with radio < 1363716100 257186 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESOE < 1363716100 345379 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESOE 191750Z 06018KT 9999 FEW021 BKN026 M05/M10 Q1014 RESN < 1363716107 55607 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this makes it very slightly less mysterious < 1363716115 369174 :carado!~carado@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Quitte < 1363716130 579900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could ask what it does, but that would feel like a copout < 1363716144 119867 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like my bot mysterious. < 1363716149 602659 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, wait, OEDF has the temperature in farenheit doesn't it? My metar is rusty < 1363716179 459945 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar NZSP < 1363716179 759534 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NZSP 191750Z 15012KT 4800 IC BR BKN010 OVC050 M50/ A2824 RMK CLN AIR 14009KT ALL WNDS GRID < 1363716184 672641 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume OEDF stands for "Oxford English Dictionary: French edition" < 1363716194 133735 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it wouldn't make no sense. everything is SI, except for north american metars, where there are some customary units mixed in. < 1363716205 877423 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, if you know what "ALL WNDS GRID" means I would really like to know < 1363716209 200606 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: OEDF is king fahd airport, at damam. < 1363716213 519373 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, oh right, M was minus < 1363716214 428791 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1363716215 430069 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1363716216 210870 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no idea. < 1363716218 463423 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I forgot < 1363716222 309742 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, no, it's the oxford english defence force < 1363716234 121358 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're a paramilitary prescriptivist organisation < 1363716235 911184 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I suspect it means they use a different coordinate system, since NZSP is the south pole < 1363716243 598108 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you ever add a IATA to ICAO converter, boily?@ < 1363716261 668969 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, and thus long/lat, as well as compass directions get a bit wonky < 1363716292 479532 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no, not yet. besides, another checklist item should be to have an official metasepia suggestion checklist. < 1363716296 3200 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, does anyone use anything except ICAO? < 1363716300 729559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: some regions of some countries take preserving their language very seriously < 1363716302 449385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. Quebec) < 1363716306 540535 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1363716326 639207 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, but QEDF is hard to say < 1363716340 222263 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, I mean for weather. Obviously IATA is used for luggage or whatever < 1363716342 797295 :tos9!~tos9@python/site-packages/tos9 PART :#esoteric < 1363716347 70352 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have the OQLF, which is the same thing. < 1363716396 300029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, the region Microsoft asks for "country or region" when signing up < 1363716403 203097 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I like the M50/ temperature of NZSP. < 1363716407 368551 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, my dad works in the air industry and keeps using IATA codes so I learn them easuer < 1363716408 651966 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes me happy I'm elsewhere < 1363716409 449736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is in order to avoid implying anything about border disputes (which annoys several countries) < 1363716409 658767 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just me or are the french really bitter that english is the lingua franca now < 1363716432 314225 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. it avoids offending Taiwan, whilst also avoiding offending the mainland Chinese government by implying that Taiwan is a country < 1363716467 733463 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I think it's just that the french and the english have got on with eachother for a grand total of maybe 4 years in the last 1000 < 1363716471 113425 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329819.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363716478 282482 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1363716484 74605 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the french are really better any time there's any suggestion that they are not the greatest ever < 1363716490 889702 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really bitter < 1363716505 926666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the french and english are on decent terms atm < 1363716519 3141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they were on pretty good terms during the world wars < 1363716525 582037 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's a testament to how awful the english are that scotland was able to find common ground with france over them < 1363716528 780062 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, BUT HOW LONG WILL IT LAST < 1363716530 568625 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, lots of fighting further into history < 1363716531 612601 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also hyperbole < 1363716551 232569 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: to be fair, it's reasonable for scotland to consider england to be awful < 1363716553 927127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we used to invade repeatedly < 1363716559 52284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even when we had no realistic chance of winning < 1363716568 983722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because… actually I don't know why < 1363716594 89488 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is basically impossible to invade scotland < 1363716597 195546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1363716599 991050 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually you just get bored and go home < 1363716604 392754 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, they set fire to the church in Hexham < 1363716606 768141 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three times < 1363716617 658906 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: who, the english or scots or both? < 1363716617 870397 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :good on them < 1363716625 419365 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The scots < 1363716626 160225 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ? < 1363716636 403989 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1363716640 90462 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1363716643 307700 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1363716646 708672 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :???? < 1363716650 904203 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop < 1363716656 609117 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, is this because it's an english church or just because it's a church < 1363716659 539521 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :potS < 1363716690 769523 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I'm wrong < 1363716694 598678 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first time it was the Danes < 1363716739 243636 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well, considering the horrible deeds committed in the names of the church through the history, and how boring the English church is supposed to be, I would say both < 1363716748 70634 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahahahahahahaha < 1363716752 500810 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I live in a country that's never been conquered, if you ignore the four or so times it was conquered < 1363716754 570731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that's a weird correlation, really < 1363716764 481924 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the church is terrible because they do all sorts of fascinatingly awful thing < 1363716771 18999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the anglican church is inded reasonably boring < 1363716773 134726 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, WHILE BEING BORING! < 1363716783 83723 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's terrible because they're renowned for being meek to a fault < 1363716787 289942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as a result is quite low on the scale of spectacular religious misdeeds < 1363716793 314095 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wee. < 1363716797 439880 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, Phantom_Hoover is commenting on the same thing as me < 1363716798 113778 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yes. totally logical < 1363716808 968993 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :our church is so boring that when the state really separated itself from the church, it was called «révolution tranquille». < 1363716812 299637 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to attempt a bfjoust evolver one more time, this time, trying something that'll hopefully make it not suck. < 1363716822 464123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: I'm interested < 1363716824 820374 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good luck, Lymia < 1363716831 799954 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway isn't the "boring anglican church" relatively modern < 1363716839 942968 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, the past few hundred years or so < 1363716846 734482 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: perhaps < 1363716858 323542 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they settled down once they finished persecuting the catholics < 1363716859 452765 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, the main difference is that I'm going to be trying to basically evolve a code generator, rather than the code itself. It might work better? < 1363716862 300282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was certainly a lot of religious strife between catholics and protestants during Tudor times < 1363716865 615429 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have the mutation itertation coded yet. < 1363716867 320332 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1363716868 160011 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :selection* < 1363716874 839382 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this lead to a law in the UK, which still stands, which prevents Catholics becoming monarchs < 1363716887 139312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :recently the EU told us to get rid of it because it was religious discrimination, or something < 1363716889 931749 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile the mainland catholic church became crazy polarised, presumably due to evaporative cooling) < 1363716898 449419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: seems interesting < 1363716968 338876 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I don't remember seeing that on the front page of the Express < 1363716979 168441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you read the Express every day? < 1363716985 860169 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just the front page < 1363717015 39218 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you know haskell help me < 1363717015 521321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1363717039 336378 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: hi < 1363717039 901542 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why does the expression problem suck < 1363717046 739206 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read the front pages of a lot of newspapers < 1363717074 934033 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: specifically, why is it hard to say I have a class Foo, and refine it to class Bar, but then if I have a Foo I can't reasonably tell if it's a Bar < 1363717111 349160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is "a Foo"? < 1363717123 275253 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a type that is an instance of Foo < 1363717124 483180 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not really anything to do with the expression problem IMO (and the expression problem is more an expression of inherent constraints -- coding behaviour vs. coding data -- than something you can solve)... on a technical level it would violate parametricity < 1363717131 708913 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in general I'm sceptical of typeclass hierarchies like that < 1363717141 831707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is "refine"? A subclass? < 1363717142 40152 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : this lead to a law in the UK, which still stands, which prevents Catholics becoming monarchs // aren't there much BIGGER obstacles X-D < 1363717143 582009 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what would you generally propose instead? < 1363717158 869531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well it's not always trivial to work out < 1363717166 79955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some time after tony blair resigned < 1363717170 403886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it became public that he was catholic < 1363717177 189269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the press were gloating over this for no apparent reason < 1363717180 319239 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: didn't he convert? < 1363717185 332658 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought he converted, yeah < 1363717194 349882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, perhaps < 1363717205 189551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: also how do you know this stuff, you aren't even british < 1363717218 620198 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I follow foreign news occasionally < 1363717233 846149 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: well, that type of design is something I associate more with OOP type stuff (although even then instanceof type things tend to be discouraged), so it really depends on the probelm, there's no generic mapping of designs... I usually start with modelling my problem with plain old data (sometimes this data is a record of behaviour: functions, monadic actions etc.) before going to typeclasses < 1363717247 980785 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1363717298 79783 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to model some parliamentary procedure, and I think a typeclass for motions is most appropriate because it's extensible. But then subclasses become awkward, for instance, the motion to amend. < 1363717303 155596 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Population generation, check. < 1363717305 70358 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evaluation, check. < 1363717306 972814 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mutation, check. < 1363717312 455651 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now for the "fun" part v.v; < 1363717329 49418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: a typeclass in no more or less extensible than data, in general < 1363717335 39648 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to see < 1363717338 522154 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where existential-typeclass-antipattern < 1363717338 731002 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about existential-typeclass-antipattern. < 1363717342 140761 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw come on < 1363717343 40003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where antipattern < 1363717343 372472 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lukepalmer.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/haskell-antipattern-existential-typeclass/ < 1363717346 123039 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1363717351 299522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where existential-antipattern < 1363717351 508332 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Haskell Antipattern: Existential Typeclass" by Luke Palmer at < 1363717358 339625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I think the FAQ talks about data representation along thesel ines < 1363717359 299561 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where faq < 1363717359 508242 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/FAQ < 1363717360 949798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ski-style' < 1363717362 559655 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ski-style': not found < 1363717363 509937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: instead of instanceof, you can have an abstract getter method that returns what sort of class it is < 1363717365 712794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't break anything < 1363717396 260164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in general, the answer to "how do I do dubious OO operation X without violating Y" is "use more abstract") < 1363717462 380290 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that makes a lot of sense < 1363717481 4135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think existential so-and-so is as much of an antipattern as people claim. < 1363717485 170154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But sometimes it's way misused. < 1363717489 591771 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but the problem is still one of "I have fields which are not applicable to all versions of the type" < 1363717504 689459 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and filling things up with undefineds seems poor < 1363717524 846992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: huh, this is close to the problem Anarchy is intended to solve < 1363717535 24583 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you can just use Maybe if it's "really" that simple. or perhaps better: another data type which contains (aggregation, in OOP terms) the subset that all satisfy, as well as the additional information < 1363717560 193906 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, algol 68 has an undefined-like value < 1363717566 659543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's not guaranteed to throw an error < 1363717575 879744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just an arbitrary value of whatever type it's expected to be a value of < 1363717586 721024 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the second is not useful. I'm unsure about Anarchy since I don't know what it is < 1363717609 780147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: it's an unfinished esolang, which may be theoretically impossible < 1363717660 499965 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah, I might go with a sub-data-type < 1363717662 288932 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope Feather compiles into it < 1363717664 636596 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just have it stored in a Maybe < 1363717674 519775 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it *does* raise the question of whether there is a typeclass equivalent < 1363717674 728144 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's inverse to what I was thinking < 1363717676 948766 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could use a super-data type? < 1363717686 816021 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of data S = S { ..., t :: Maybe T }, data T = ... < 1363717687 812893 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have < 1363717695 122666 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data S = S { ... }, data T = T { s :: S, ... } < 1363717700 291439 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, no, that doesn't work though < 1363717705 54884 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then I can't recover the T from the S < 1363717706 473314 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then s projects out your S from your T < 1363717720 180214 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but generally you shouldn't want to... it's too situation-specific to really say though < 1363717732 908521 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could with lenses < 1363717794 430960 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :data S = S { ... }; data T = T { _s :: s, ...}; makeLenses ''T; thisT & s %~ modifyS < 1363717821 20350 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell still scares me < 1363717828 269512 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :same here < 1363717837 939857 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that doens't solve the homogenous container problem < 1363717846 10280 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah < 1363717862 958627 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe may be the way to go < 1363717867 701112 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no homogenous container problem. every heterogeneous container is a homogeneous container where the underlying interface is being hidden < 1363717881 570986 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the problem is that the underlying heterogeneity needs to be preserved < 1363718045 935 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, it's not that scary, it just allows you to abuse the type system more so than any other language < 1363718045 212521 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even more so if you enable some GHC extensions < 1363718057 64345 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363718070 599312 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can make an esolang that allows you to abuse it more < 1363718089 874534 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I would have to know Haskell to know what that even means < 1363718098 919534 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would blur the line between esolang and research language < 1363718117 56147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's a great line to blur < 1363718123 894003 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, true < 1363718130 492369 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, those are way better than esolangs designed to be useless < 1363718130 794124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: that's just called Agda really < 1363718137 789349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I forgot about Agda < 1363718143 440971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: yeah, definitely check out Agda < 1363718159 177906 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably don't check out agda if haskell scares you. < 1363718163 259782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone deserves to be allowed to experience it at least one < 1363718164 216293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*once < 1363718168 993636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah but with agda it's OK to be scared < 1363718180 549827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: larrytheliquid went straight from Ruby to Agda! < 1363718188 877486 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things like people, in practice, normally requiring their editor to do type inference < 1363718193 233365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to be able to write it < 1363718342 862025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: btw, the tdwtf forums seem to have a new troll: http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/t/27342.aspx < 1363718347 866183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not troll < 1363718350 364899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :person who is out of place < 1363718373 729483 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363718387 984716 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1363718402 608511 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agda vs Idris < 1363718436 990015 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, is he saying things like "m/f" and "what country r u"? < 1363718464 313138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no < 1363718471 112077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're interested you can follow the link < 1363718483 509186 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I did < 1363718484 459220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to describe < 1363718492 201761 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like fungot decided to visit the fora < 1363718492 658411 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: er. they are independent just loop over them for each time the programmer writes in-range deep inside the kernel without messing up the mechanics." < 1363718537 353280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it doesn't seem so markov chain to me < 1363718551 90629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're trying to edit the credits for mozilla, the responsible person is ignoring them < 1363718558 848843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they're asking how they can get the responsible person to stop ignoring them < 1363718590 501072 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1363718612 349072 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I somehow got convinced the OP was joe.edwards < 1363718627 424064 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, Humble Bundle are trying to sell me a game I already own, and that they know I already own because they sold it to me < 1363718640 301079 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so buy it again < 1363718653 31718 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :past performance is the best predictor of future performance < 1363718947 760708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome version history table; "24 -- Support for MathML -- 25 -- Disabled MathML support for the time being". The Chrome gives, the Chrome takes away. < 1363719005 352166 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: To be fair, they're also explaining the whole new weekly-deal scheme while they're doing it. < 1363719021 493305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I guess < 1363719033 510731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they're going to spam me every week, though, I'm going to unsubscribe < 1363719039 971941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and possibly miss other things they want to send me < 1363719093 529645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they're going to do that. Or at the very least they'd perhaps make the "announce every weekly sale" mailing opt-out-or-in. < 1363719100 262856 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate electro-static discharges. < 1363719129 108302 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-59.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1363719130 675717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're also selling some merchandise you might not already own. < 1363719141 900657 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but I'm not so interested in Bastion merchandise < 1363719157 391754 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The internal battery in my Pokemon Emerald has died < 1363719208 791076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's usual around now < 1363719218 900351 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sad though < 1363719219 671256 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, unlike in Ruby/Sapphire, it doesn't make it any easier to rig the RNG < 1363719221 930682 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa < 1363719343 912685 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb has died again, it seems. < 1363719370 397736 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363719389 660972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking with things with counters, there's this Finnish version of the "We the People" petitions -- if a petition gets over 50k signatures, the parliament needs to... uh, at least officially look at it -- and they opened the petition for making the laws about marriage gender-neutral; it's gotten 91433 signatures in the 21 hours it's been open, which is probably several magnitudes faster than ... < 1363719395 849381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... all the other such petitions. (Thus far only one has ever gone over the 50k mark.) < 1363719419 752181 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :niiice < 1363719422 751282 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll probably get deleted for cheating < 1363719463 811358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's run by the gummint and they do strong (FSVO strong) authentication, so hopefully it's not that likely to be spurious. < 1363719473 159393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you think it's been hacked? or just that it's a really major hot topic? < 1363719479 272129 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr all the uk parliament petitions were p. dumb < 1363719482 613534 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there aren't 91,433 people in finland, though. < 1363719491 199488 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so something is up. < 1363719507 570619 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only one i remember was that all the rioters should be hanged, or perhaps just given some kind of jail sentence < 1363719528 152856 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? istr < 1363719529 971530 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1363719530 181509 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think it's legit, though the rate of new signatures has been curiously constant -- see the yellow line in http://ypcs.fi/tahdon2013/ -- but maybe there's a technical reason for that. < 1363719533 591033 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck istr < 1363719533 890675 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1363719540 574503 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is istr? < 1363719547 220392 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seem to recall < 1363719556 959634 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1363719575 280754 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, but glued to the other sentence end. < 1363719595 556868 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: A majority of the petitions on the Finnish site are pretty dumb too. < 1363719629 982659 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one with the most signatures is "stop the badger cull" < 1363719640 544363 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the runner up is to keep all the bulgarians and romanians out < 1363719660 664882 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, http://kannatusilmoitukset.fi/ -- another graph-page only in Finnish -- plots the history of all of them, hourly; the almost-vertical blue line at the end is the marriage equality thing. < 1363719663 37423 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc like 90% of the petitions were about arresting and/or hanging people and/or just generally being a little bit more 19th century if you please < 1363719674 617305 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know where 19 came from there < 1363719679 682585 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must be the long tail < 1363719680 130003 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just say the 19th century was the worst century < 1363719695 161260 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the 14th < 1363719718 74268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many of the other petitions have also gotten small bumps during today, too, presumably because people, after bothering to verify themselves to the system, have gone and poked several. < 1363719777 769237 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, no, the rioters one is "Convicted London rioters should loose all benefits." < 1363719815 331671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the worrying part is that the benefits system is so used to complexity that implementing that would probably cost less than it saves < 1363719823 403111 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1363719838 789483 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*more, presumably < 1363719840 451119 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes < 1363719846 761052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no, less was intentional < 1363719850 861093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the rest of the sentence < 1363719872 694359 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh < 1363719873 561639 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever < 1363719888 198586 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the topic of benefits < 1363719890 548058 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we going to draw and quarter someone < 1363719910 727736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, it seems to me likely to be a bad idea to take a bunch of people who are already shown to be entirely willing to break the law and cause widespread property damage, and decide to cut off any legal means for them to obtain food and shelter < 1363719912 455031 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-21846817 damn immigrants coming over here and sponging off our hospitals and schools < 1363719945 788306 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Daily_Mail < 1363719947 909515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at that point, they have no logical reason not to go on a widespread looting spree < 1363719951 752016 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an alternative to starving < 1363719954 20717 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/aa4cdb56d9a1457f4f3d748cb85d1831/tumblr_mjigpgqsqV1qm9r09o1_400.jpg ooh < 1363720001 581357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: not sure if you read the story, but the BBC is apparently in favour of that particular immigrant < 1363720016 805142 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Finnish top 10 list contains, in order: 1) the marriage thing; 2) a petition to ban energy drinks for people under 16 years old; 3) one to fix the copyright legislation; 4) one to legalize use and posession of cannabis; 5) one to kill more top predators (to summarize); 6) one to arrange a vote on whether Finland should get out of the EU; 7) one about revamping the social security rules to ... < 1363720022 688153 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... have a fixed base income for everyone; 8) one to make learning Swedish non-mandatory; 9) one to get rid of DST; and 10) one about something to do with shooting ranges and their environmental impact. < 1363720025 173337 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: eeeeh... what are those? < 1363720031 610161 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tunicates! < 1363720034 98331 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, can i sign 8 < 1363720037 361685 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :predatory ones < 1363720078 618955 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Only if you can also vote in Finland. < 1363720087 595418 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, will you sign 8 for me < 1363720090 428213 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read "use and possession of cannibals" for a second, that sounds more exciting < 1363720116 773713 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the average cost for a 3½ in Helsinki? < 1363720158 590930 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think "legalize weed" is going to be very popular in many such petition systems. (Except perhaps if it's already legal in the place.) < 1363720170 951131 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1363720177 456445 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what a 3½ is. < 1363720197 739134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :floppy disk standard? < 1363720198 542737 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my penis size < 1363720203 147742 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :half a 7 < 1363720242 337843 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I can vote in Finland! < 1363720245 192416 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's how we designate appartment sizes. a 3½ is: one living room, one bedroom, one kitchen and one bathroom (the ½). < 1363720248 306705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I've yet to do so. < 1363720258 207960 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: those sound a lot better than ours, really :/ < 1363720262 161485 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am fairly certain I cannot vote in Finland. < 1363720266 767172 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think last I heard they were voting up one for a death star < 1363720291 971898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I http://www.theonion.com/articles/opposition-to-soda-ban-sad-proof-that-americans-st,31658/ < 1363720292 906094 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/isnt-petition-response-youre-looking < 1363720296 336534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Oh; we'd call that a "kaksio" (approx. a "double") since it has two rooms -- the livingroom and the bedroom -- that really count. < 1363720310 458471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked that one whitehouse petition < 1363720314 437005 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: The one with a living room and two bedrooms is a "kolmio", lit. "a triangle". < 1363720324 329576 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: that response is actually wonderful < 1363720329 580079 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We demand a vapid, condescending, meaningless, politically safe response to this petition." < 1363720331 583843 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1363720340 991205 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: neat. < 1363720376 236295 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION had no idea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Probe%2B existed, that is really cool!
< 1363720388 35814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the fact that force fields actually exist < 1363720390 906918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if they're mostly impractical < 1363720422 646123 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: which type are you referring to? Gravity? < 1363720435 13975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: some sort of plasma thing < 1363720438 933105 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how much power they get from the solar arrays at that distance < 1363720439 964902 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that said 'solar probe b' and then i confused it with gravity probe b < 1363720446 903916 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that is also cool < 1363720450 140213 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :%2B is +, I think < 1363720451 427171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Anyhow, the price range inside Helsinki varies really much depending on location (and other kind of things), but I picked a random ad from one of the major websites, for a 50 m^2 two-rooms-plus-open-kitchen-and-bathroom in a reasonably central location, and that's 250000 EUR. < 1363720461 645278 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :solar probe+ is a stupid name though < 1363720486 142389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: If you meant "to buy" as opposed to "to rent", that is. < 1363720507 241679 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was hoping the %2B was a ! < 1363720509 190160 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solar Probe! < 1363720523 140729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no ! is %21 < 1363720532 446354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the first visible printable character < 1363720534 27931 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363720559 818389 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also felt very cheated when i found out SOHO isn't actually anywhere near the sun < 1363720560 88110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up ais523. you cannot ruin Space Probe! for me < 1363720564 457744 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Well, it was the top ten. The bottom ten is pretty stupid, for example. < 1363720576 772031 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because all the space books i had as a child drew it as being really close < 1363720583 382420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Radixal!!!! < 1363720640 847888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Radixal!!!! is an esoteric language created collaboratively by the #esoteric IRC channel on 7 December Category:2012. < 1363720644 120658 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the category: < 1363720651 94398 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah, when you said that I was reminded of this: http://gizmodo.com/5044624/ultrasound-haptic-devices-can-project-tactile-shapes-into-thin-air < 1363720652 977078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh, and the 3½" floppies seem to retail at about 0.50 EUR/piece if you buy a box of 10. (Verbatim 3.5" MF2HD DataLife brand.) < 1363720679 976847 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://techcrunch.com/2008/09/03/haptic-system-uses-ultrasound-to-give-feel-to-objects-that-aren%E2%80%99t-there/ < 1363720683 539456 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't think I asked the question, but still interesting to know < 1363720687 255732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's rather more expensive than it used to be < 1363720696 997006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but given that they're much more of a specialist item nowadays, that's not surprising < 1363720714 835903 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You suggested that 3½ meant a floppy disk standard, which sort of implies a question, even if it doesn't ask it. < 1363720719 404360 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm more interested by the "rent". besides, how much is 50m² in square feet? < 1363720736 224565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there are 3¼ feet in a metre < 1363720741 28565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 50 square meters in square feet < 1363720742 399816 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :538.195521 square feet < 1363720742 687894 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.metric-conversions.org/area/square-meters-to-square-feet-table.htm < 1363720742 688102 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Square Meters to Square Feet table < 1363720749 266392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 50×3¼² < 1363720749 853892 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Around 538. < 1363720786 244580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 3¼² is sufficiently close to 10 in order for 10 to be good enough for an order-of-magnitude conversions. < 1363720802 624400 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Let's see a rent, then. < 1363720807 333191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~523 ft² < 1363720807 588449 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1363720809 407257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 3¼⅕9 < 1363720817 222661 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its pi < 1363720830 223816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg pi < 1363720848 731421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copimpkin < 1363720850 929219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Also, the store I checked is only selling that single brand of 3½" floppies; they used to have more of a selection, before. < 1363720852 465417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that doesn't quite work. < 1363720857 515658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin pi < 1363720861 531429 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What are your orders, master? < 1363720862 76186 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: my client agrees with foxfire's. here's something for you < 1363720914 603800 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Why thank you. I'd be delighted to help you with your client's request. < 1363720915 292603 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: getting another error now ;can't bind name in null syntactic environment as system-global-env's parent. < 1363720921 515607 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dad used to swear by his belief that pi was exactly 22/7 < 1363720947 9634 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Try rebooting the machine. < 1363720947 727116 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: a political push to use one word for the first < 1363720972 75711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That seems to be around 1000-1500 EUR/month, for similar size in a similar place. You can go a lot cheaper by going further away from the city centre, naturally. < 1363721025 666166 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitomagnetism < 1363721026 695705 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wit < 1363721028 323949 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wait < 1363721044 159285 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mean if you have two things spinning in opposite directions they'll repel each other < 1363721048 202004 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i think it means that < 1363721061 434016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe not a "lot", but down to 700-750 EUR/month or something. < 1363721085 187542 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is expensive! < 1363721094 891915 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.19.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1363721123 423673 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a rather ridiculous bubble in housing prices when comparing Helsinki (and the surrounding region) to the rest of the country. < 1363721152 709928 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day i will move to finland and become finnish < 1363721180 177207 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 ⌿ 2 < 1363721181 673768 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good bye! < 1363721216 457843 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: in Montréal, a 3½ is around 500~800 $/month. < 1363721248 325724 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: How big is that "3½" in your units, then? < 1363721258 555103 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1363721273 459718 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, did you vote for 8 btw < 1363721281 746376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I didn't. *shame* < 1363721303 452476 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you want rid of the vile aftertaste of swede < 1363721309 432697 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's around 550 sq. ft., so a little bit larger than your heathen 50 m² :p < 1363721327 325285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I've done all my mandatory Swedish already, so it's a matter of making sure everyone else gets to suffer too. < 1363721345 192301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1363721347 806537 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fizzie think of the children < 1363721350 114287 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1363721364 400501 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 550 sq. ft. in sq. m < 1363721365 519512 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :51.096672 sq. meters < 1363721365 794053 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.metric-conversions.org/area/square-meters-to-square-feet.htm < 1363721365 794257 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Square Meters to Square Feet conversion < 1363721369 15040 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish is good for your health. you get to be able to order swedish food in swedish restaurants! < 1363721392 872693 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish restaurants generally don't serve swedish food though < 1363721395 906703 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :order swedish fitta < 1363721472 200072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :helsinki is super expensive in all ways, isn't it < 1363721493 339998 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst cost is to your soul < 1363721503 253474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Our two-rooms-and-bathroom-and-really-tiny-kitchen place in the university student union housing was somewhere around 300-400 EUR/month, and it was... maybe 450 sq. feet. But of course that's quite different than renting from the open market. < 1363721525 246753 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sfist.com/2013/03/07/map_average_rent_for_1br_in_san_fra.php < 1363721540 718467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale is giving a monad tutorial in #haskell-in-depth < 1363721544 624200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what has the world come to < 1363721545 367002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo < 1363721554 339948 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't the topic say "NO MONAD TUTORIALS" < 1363721557 765563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is literally the thing you're not supposed to talk about < 1363721570 926912 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'm not sure how "super", compared to those really expensive places, but I understand it is quite pricy. < 1363721581 80786 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all monad tutorials all the time < 1363721585 662086 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the monad channel < 1363721599 335995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monad tutorials, moproblems < 1363721613 71924 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I've banned two people in #haskell! little do they know my plan to slowly, gradually ban everyone in the universe. and then you can come back and it will be perfect. < 1363721621 488796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1363721623 161947 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't tell anyone it's secret. < 1363721630 747039 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you banned cale < 1363721636 445389 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i will keep its secrecy secret < 1363721639 109246 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for not shutting the hell up about monads < 1363721662 661432 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads are good. helsinki is good. everything is good, except monad tutorials. < 1363721672 696008 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or maybe helsinki tutorials, but I haven't seen any of them yet.) < 1363721677 688000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure whether cost / area is a good metric for urban apartments < 1363721688 902067 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a "nad tutorial" seems sexual < 1363721701 621269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc would not come back to #haskell if he was the last person on earth < 1363721713 754169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might < 1363721716 384371 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to go to #haskell < 1363721720 341234 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst time of my life < 1363721736 413125 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time i went to #haskell and now i only have one kidney < 1363721758 723641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's one kidney more than the average bicycle. < 1363721816 28581 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what he didn't say is that he started with three kidneys, all to himself. < 1363721838 627904 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i DESERVED those kidneys you fuckers < 1363721839 590155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people pay for location more than space < 1363721851 676428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell robs the rich and gives to the poor < 1363721864 911238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I think cost / bedrooms is better, because that's effectively how much you can split it < 1363721872 639223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even that is tricky < 1363721882 522877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only visualization about apartment prices in Helsinki I could find is about the average price to buy per square metre (which goes from 500 to 5000 depending on the city region), but that of course depends somewhat on the distribution of apartment sizes in the location. < 1363721897 478343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in NY there are a lot of listings for "flex 3BR" which means "2BR and you could put a shitty temporary wall in the living room and get a third bedroom if you are OK with having almost no living room" < 1363721994 482835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the new places they're building around here have a designed-in place for an optional divider wall if you want to split half of the living room into an extra bedroom. < 1363722034 372129 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's marked with a dashed line in the plans they give in the brochure. < 1363722045 438652 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny to see how across languages the same apartment is mapped to different digits. 3½ in French, kaksio in Finnish and 1BR in English. < 1363722119 496630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it reminds me of floor numbering < 1363722127 389440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the UK, floor "1" is the floor above the ground floor < 1363722139 751571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in areas with a lot of foreign visitors, the ground floor is typically numbered "0" to reduce confusion to some extent < 1363722236 528115 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buildings should be sunk into the ground in such a way so there is a floor that is halfway in < 1363722241 198950 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that would be the 0th floor < 1363722241 419020 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363722247 598277 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither above, nor below < 1363722254 400528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: that sort of thing is quite common in the UK too < 1363722265 296757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our set of words go "yksiö" (single-person apartment, usually in a single room + bathroom, but not always), "kaksio" (generally childless couples; bedroom, living room, plus the mandatory stuff), "kolmio" (two bedrooms, living room, and the rest; most common size to get after the first child), "neliö" (ditto but three bedrooms) -- those all have roots in the cardinal numbers, "yksi", ... < 1363722271 843540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... "kaksi", "kolme", "neljä" -- and then it kind of stops, and for larger places you probably just give room counts. < 1363722278 342685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are multiple buildings in central birmingham with two ground floors that have another floor between them (which might or might not also be a ground floor) < 1363722279 425710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do have a set of standard abbreviations for apartment ads, though. < 1363722288 320867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to it being so inconsistent in terms of height < 1363722345 915461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "3H+K+KPH" is "three rooms plus kitchen plus bathroom", and so on; so you can just use those for larger places. < 1363722367 563641 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is the apartment specification language turing-complete < 1363722402 590612 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3H+K+KPHQ9+ < 1363722418 594452 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it is. Not that I speak it fluently. < 1363722426 61101 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what this "P" is, for example. < 1363722447 84924 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :push onto the stack < 1363722484 290214 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stack of discarded furniture < 1363722493 265126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's this 250 square metre (2690 sq.ft.) place -- for rent, 2600 EUR/month -- that's described with "5 h, k, rt, th, ask.h, kh, wc, sauna". < 1363722554 3984 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's "5 rooms, kitchen, something, something (maybe office room?), craft room, probably-bathroom, toilet, sauna". < 1363722555 381782 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get your own private sauna in your own app.? wooooah... < 1363722570 61078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how much for a lake < 1363722575 618838 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: There are private saunas in really tiny apartments here. < 1363722616 163126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it should not be the least bit surprising that the Finnish word for "sauna" is "sauna" < 1363722618 731787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Like, many of your 3½'s have this tiny can-fit-maybe-three-people-if-they-don't-mind-sitting-on-someone's-lap closet-saunas, for example. < 1363722654 913198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I can't quite give a percentage, but at least for new apartments, it certainly seems like the majority of them have saunas. < 1363722684 39920 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION 's eyes shine like an infatuated anime character in front of the most beautiful thing in the world.
< 1363722846 979966 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of the places I've lived in -- discounting back when I lived with my parents -- have had a per-apartment sauna, but that's just me. < 1363722905 987075 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In apartment buildings that don't have per-apartment saunas, I'd guesstimate at least 90% of them have a shared sauna for which you can reserve a one-hour slot per week. < 1363723023 723065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly one hour is sort of not long enough to even get started, for a serious sauna-goer. < 1363723028 445195 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Practical tip: the last slot of the day is nice, because then you don't have to hurry out in case someone's coming.) < 1363723072 398105 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :our saunas have a warning that you should just spend 5 mins in them, up to probably 15 mins if you're an expert. < 1363723084 288129 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think our sauna culture *may* be a tad different... < 1363723104 357409 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they may be hotter than the finnish ones < 1363723118 775361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds implausible < 1363723135 300010 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds really implausible. < 1363723139 236777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think a reasonable sauna temperature here is around 80°C. < 1363723182 672755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear boily likes it at 100°. < 1363723183 788527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course you go out (trad. to have a cold beer from the lake, and also to offer the mosquitoes a snack) quite often; then you repeat. < 1363723189 552534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought sauners were well above 100 < 1363723193 239142 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sauners < 1363723198 376723 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, I'm tired < 1363723205 542114 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more likely to type phonetically when tired < 1363723220 54185 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Britishly phonetic. < 1363723221 840441 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's p. rhotic < 1363723241 597122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean non-rhotic? < 1363723260 996955 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, 80-100°C, maybe; e.g. the competition things go higher than that, but that's not really for relaxing. < 1363723272 741959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are sauna competitions? < 1363723274 882659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's somewhat a matter of taste. < 1363723288 299199 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think they stopped after some people died, actually. < 1363723293 666475 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Sauna_Championships < 1363723299 415892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they don't really do them officially anymore. < 1363723306 255616 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I addquote that? I want to < 1363723313 522259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because it blows my mind < 1363723316 656616 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Championships were first held in 1999 and grew to feature contestants from over 20 countries. Sauna bathing at extreme conditions is a severe health risk: all competitors competed at their own risk, and had to sign a form agreeing not to take legal action against the organizers. Notably, the Finnish Sauna Society strongly opposed the event. After the death of one finalist and near-death ... < 1363723322 695826 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... of another during the 2010 championship, the organizers announced that they would not hold another." < 1363723358 191836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Wikipedia's style of presenting facts next to each other and not drawing the obvious conclusion < 1363723376 687341 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They start at 110°C (which I'd consider "pretty hot" for a sauna), and pour half a liter of water on the stove every 30 seconds, and the last person to walk out without outside help is the winner. < 1363723384 262092 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If they carry your body out, it doesn't count.) < 1363723409 309107 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why do people compete in this? < 1363723419 983227 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it purely drawn from the pool of people who will do absolutely anything? < 1363723437 408755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the pool has a tendency to shrink as they accidentally kill themselves in bizarre ways) < 1363723450 778659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a very common to do the same thing, except less formally, to prove your toughness. < 1363723463 948661 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the pool, it is very large. < 1363723466 349535 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, this is actually an argument in favour of reality TV shows < 1363723472 582925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of shameful to be the first one out of a sauna, for example. < 1363723484 37689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on the sort of company you keep, of course. < 1363723491 636990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they draw such people away from things that will likely kill them, and into activities that will merely ruin their life < 1363723540 296932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I understand it, in some countries you're not allowed to pour water on the sauna stove. < 1363723548 277389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is an integral part of the thing in Finland. < 1363723576 414047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you actually do the jumping into ice cold water afterwarsdsthing < 1363723591 368383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't, personally, but many people do. < 1363723625 28448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The closest body of water from here is a bit far, anyway. < 1363723644 560392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what do you mean by "body of water"? < 1363723655 904714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, there are several pretty near reservoirs < 1363723656 237782 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Lake, sea, that kind of thing. < 1363723661 678654 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though I live nowhere near the coast < 1363723669 538745 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.19.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363723675 673882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although jumping into a reservoir would get you into trouble in the UK < 1363723693 956640 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, well, if it's not right next to the sauna, it's possibly kind of awkward to run naked through e.g. a city. < 1363723720 626375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even in Finland? < 1363723738 838358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In most places, yes. < 1363723789 432288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Otaniemi (the university campus) it'd possibly be okay. I've seen a few naked people around there. < 1363723814 865040 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though normally you'd just go to a sauna built next to water. < 1363723832 968814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to build a sauna underwater? < 1363723836 582953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd cool off as you swam out? < 1363723837 954050 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea (AIUI) is to get a high temperature gradient, after all, so you need to minimize the sauna-to-water time. < 1363723852 809088 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't sound physically impossible, but I've never heard of one. < 1363723864 204225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : huh, this is actually an argument in favour of reality TV shows <-- don't you mean an argument _against_? we're preventing cleaning of the gene pool here! < 1363723864 755569 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1363723891 711247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a couple of saunas on wheels that you could drive to any shore you like. < 1363723926 908572 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See e.g. https://www.google.com/search?q=sauna+auto&safe=off&tbm=isch < 1363723970 479061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: good, good < 1363723978 448972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a very professional-looking (re build quality, finish, and so on) one around Otaniemi last summer. < 1363724007 577170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm imagining a sauna airship < 1363724012 520322 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the topic of reality tv shows < 1363724020 78497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Ribbit < 1363724023 318966 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is presently one on channel 4 called bedtime: live < 1363724028 473704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are saunas on boats, I think. That gets quite close to water. < 1363724052 336198 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, on the subject of jumping into reservoirs, you could probably get away with jumping into Kielder < 1363724056 399057 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure someone wrote a short story in the 80s about this kind of thing < 1363724056 662198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are certainly sauns on the 12-deck Helsinki/Stockholm cruise ships, but that probably doesn't quite count. < 1363724082 69018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that doesn't sound like a very interesting reality tv show < 1363724125 502102 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's live coverage of parents trying to get their children to sleep < 1363724137 750422 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the most nihilistic thing i have ever seen < 1363724178 619418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I feel sorry for their children < 1363724205 20318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :informed consent seems necessary for this sort of thing < 1363724219 5865 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if someone is hard to persuade to go to sleep, they possibly aren't capable of giving informed consent < 1363724236 948321 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean I'm incapable of giving informed consent? < 1363724241 689127 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty difficult to persuade me to go to sleep < 1363724250 875602 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, go to sleep. < 1363724259 355543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1363724272 58764 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please go to sleep, elliott. < 1363724278 945759 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you < 1363724291 678705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: stay awake forever < 1363724293 264582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it < 1363724301 133332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1363724304 4530 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on personal experience, people are more likely to say "fuck you" to me while asleep < 1363724334 592717 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while you're asleep, or while they're asleep? < 1363724346 569218 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :While they're asleep < 1363724371 321377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the main conclusion that can be drawn from this is that you're not generally disliked /and/ people have tendencies to have erotic fantasies about you < 1363724387 349822 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know someone who suffered from a head injury and so fell asleep really easily, while remaining pretty lucid, and she subconsciously hated me) < 1363724393 854921 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I understand many non-Finnish sauna cultures lack the part where you whip people? < 1363724465 400329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: funny that < 1363724467 165428 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never got whipped in a sauna, at least not consciously. < 1363724490 338736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never been in a sauna < 1363724497 585181 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the russian culture certainly doesn't < 1363724516 519598 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saunas are those places where people cook themselves to death, right? < 1363724544 129416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the heck did you talk this much in just six hours. < 1363724573 432057 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, funnily enough, you have very little evidence any of us actually talked < 1363724584 374629 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Vorpal implied once that the whipping part was at least not ubiquitous in Sweden. < 1363724590 459070 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, imagine if this was exclusively voice-chat < 1363724594 642595 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yeah but convincingly faking the HackEgo logs would take just as much effort as actual talk < 1363724618 6598 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm referring to "flapping one's mouth open and closed" style talking < 1363724626 325260 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the kind of pointless effort this channel would go to, though! < 1363724629 285422 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I would even say it isn't common here < 1363724638 123069 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :even go as far as calling it rare < 1363724641 691982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh < 1363724646 319485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well yes < 1363724649 220529 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The place where I buy ice creams is closing :( < 1363724655 886720 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1363724662 400754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it goes. < 1363724668 236277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you know a closing ice cream shop nearby? < 1363724669 45544 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was on the front page of the Hexham Courant < 1363724671 549864 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Based on personal experience, people are more likely to say "fuck you" to me while asleep < 1363724673 4848 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aniica vata sankhara < 1363724676 241851 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anicca < 1363724685 992409 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1363724709 790021 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i choose to this to interpret this as Taneb sneaking into friends' rooms and listening to them sleep-talking about him < 1363724711 187600 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no < 1363724726 147886 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, nah, I'm just a dick to narcoleptics < 1363724737 169876 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: enough similar news events < 1363724744 635600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can determine how far from Taneb you live via binary search < 1363724746 347097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Is Hexham Currant a type of a berry? < 1363724765 870005 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, we live within 3 miles of eachother < 1363724772 385314 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's not going to be that much difference < 1363724776 457847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is that the diameter of Hexham? < 1363724787 338288 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know elliott lives in hexham proper < 1363724788 184499 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham Currant Jam (occasionally called "Hexjam"), the breakfast toast complement of the discerning customer. < 1363724789 86437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Hexham is kind of tiny < 1363724791 547573 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's about twice the diameter of Hexham < 1363724792 556430 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's not much we could deduce < 1363724796 954483 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :our news is identical < 1363724817 441159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well presumably either there's an ice-cream shop nearer to you than the one near Taneb, or you never buy ice-cream < 1363724820 761610 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363724833 602745 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seem to be assuming there are more ice cream shops in hexham than there likely are < 1363724834 213111 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, the one near me is pretty much in the middle of Hexham < 1363724838 553607 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And is a chocolate shop < 1363724844 373389 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Thornton's < 1363724851 887766 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like there is no ice cream shop in hexham that could be so far away that it would not be close enough for a hexhamite to buy ice cream from it < 1363724858 286891 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that thing is closing < 1363724859 581523 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1363724869 6823 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, there's Wheelbirk's, but that's not in Hexham < 1363724885 626752 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have in fact not heard of that < 1363724901 873431 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's near Ebchester I think < 1363724905 76022 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So way to the south < 1363724924 737438 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by "way to the south", I mean about maybe 10 miles south max) < 1363724956 202378 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :practically in cornwall < 1363724960 303141 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should go to hexham < 1363724983 242804 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_, it's not that great < 1363724989 505138 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've got an old church < 1363724993 607975 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And an old gaol < 1363725003 523999 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.19.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1363725007 274572 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 NICK :nooodl < 1363725007 567711 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imaginatively named "The Old Gaol" < 1363725014 357784 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a swimming pool < 1363725020 993944 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And at least two esolangers < 1363725031 778839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The church -- if it's the one in the Wikipedia article main image -- looks rather impressive. < 1363725038 523523 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes we don't have two churches < 1363725045 107856 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1363725045 791006 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we do < 1363725049 118762 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not two Churches < 1363725050 7467 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have about 8 < 1363725054 803422 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well 8 isn't 2 < 1363725058 44209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear the abbey is haunted(?) < 1363725058 509842 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it was burned in 875 < 1363725059 846325 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how many live in Hexham? < 1363725060 931515 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :approx < 1363725062 570701 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i hear like evreywhere is haunted < 1363725065 783179 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: like 10k-20k or something < 1363725066 25218 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i forget how fucking old everything in england is < 1363725068 105156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's tiny < 1363725070 594998 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow hexham is huge < 1363725074 834642 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14k < 1363725075 731501 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1363725078 207174 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so slightly less than the town I live in < 1363725078 454286 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :11k < 1363725079 117036 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11446 - wikipedia < 1363725079 569036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is in a ~9k person town.
< 1363725085 405886 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :just over 20k in the town I live in < 1363725088 309819 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah a bit smaller < 1363725092 649620 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, that's huuge < 1363725103 401610 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm in a... whoa. 21k person municipality < 1363725105 959222 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: that's from like 2001 or something < 1363725109 46543 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was a lot less < 1363725109 797533 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my shitty town has about 17k < 1363725110 965931 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the awful place i have to go to in ireland sometimes has a population of 1444 < 1363725111 324080 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i imagine it's a bit more than 11k now < 1363725116 999422 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess this means that statistically there are like < 1363725117 442343 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah it's probably not 20k < 1363725118 877351 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, it is small for being a city, but it is officially a city < 1363725123 223301 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :three or four esolang people here probably?? < 1363725123 665579 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham is (IIRC) population-wise about the same size as the place where both of my parents are from, and where I used to visit every summer. < 1363725127 98253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: my town is smaller than your town < 1363725128 921184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well i used to live in a village with population like 100 < 1363725132 621901 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1363725133 301176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coincidentally, they too have a church: http://www.lieksanseurakunta.fi/kuvat/lieksa-1017-081c6b24b013a27e13bc97b8995688aa.jpg?v=1360672830 < 1363725134 698181 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, I raise you St David's, Wales < 1363725140 433956 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1363725149 81775 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so it'd have like a one hundredth of an esolanger? that sounds gruesome... < 1363725150 133624 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clues as to elliott's MYSTERIOUS PAST < 1363725162 824370 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, it was one of the last towns in Sweden to become a city before the concept of city rights was abolished (iirc that was related to guilds and taxes?) < 1363725163 106725 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i mentioned i was technically born in the south < 1363725168 227651 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's church wars now < 1363725168 805715 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Edegem_Basiliek1.JPG < 1363725183 66058 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what an awful photo) < 1363725194 742956 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ours is better than both of those < 1363725195 11186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1363725197 680693 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the nearest remotely notable church is like, mormon < 1363725200 335940 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... shit. < 1363725201 526724 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actually fizzie's looks cool < 1363725218 131619 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.katemb.com/wp-content/uploads/Inside_Hexham_Abbey_Hexham_United_Kingdom.jpg < 1363725219 674340 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHURCH WARS http://www.rky.fi/read/asp/hae_kuva.aspx?id=104147&ttyyppi=jpg&kunta_id=49 SO MUCH CONCRETE. (This one is in Espoo.) < 1363725221 103908 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at this shit < 1363725222 168302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this shit is majestic < 1363725230 747903 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus < 1363725240 43948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's literally older than people and food < 1363725241 996522 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to become a christian < 1363725254 99071 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please don't move to Hexham just to become a Christian < 1363725264 996412 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please do < 1363725266 298776 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this church, Taneb < 1363725282 94001 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i buy this church and move into it < 1363725289 386805 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is it that's buried in there or something < 1363725292 257797 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey do we have any spaniards < 1363725295 826279 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we had the discussion about Finland's most popular tourist attraction church on-channel already, but it's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temppeliaukio_Church -- just look at the inside pictures of it. (Because the outside doesn't look like anything.) < 1363725305 105495 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, old king of Northumbria < 1363725305 350140 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because 60 Minutes did a areport on that one basilica and it looked damn pretty < 1363725305 648367 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, calling 20k huge: I work in a city closer to 200k. 20 km from here < 1363725309 648597 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.peterloud.co.uk/photos/Northumberland/Hexham_Abbey/Hexham_2-w750.jpg 3 churches 4 the price of 1 < 1363725312 578823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: plz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temppeliaukio_Church < 1363725320 83226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo test | colorize < 1363725322 322372 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: colorize: command not found < 1363725326 742553 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, the church in that city: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%C3%96rebro_Sankt_Nikolai_kyrka.JPG < 1363725329 992873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats elliott -----###
< 1363725331 802034 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how about that one ^ < 1363725340 76536 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo test | rainbow < 1363725341 952367 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0511t04e06s11t02 < 1363725344 848518 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.peterloud.co.uk/photos/Northumberland/Hexham_Abbey/North_Window-2_3713-w768.jpg fuckin stained glass, man < 1363725345 58956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you realize there are other commands that _use_ that one? < 1363725356 681950 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :traditional, and not crazy like the ones in Finland, true < 1363725363 954050 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to live near literally the most boring church < 1363725365 730235 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kerkeninvlaanderen.be/i/13/01347_2547_lint_olvr_geboorte_01.jpg < 1363725366 934675 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Margaret's_Chapel,_Edinburgh < 1363725368 316546 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's silly < 1363725375 256462 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PDPC is dead < 1363725380 561598 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to some msg I got < 1363725387 515518 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hahaha < 1363725391 783824 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :World's largest wooden church is in Finland, if you believe these folks. (I'm not entirely certain.) < 1363725397 274903 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: have i mentioned that church thing is colourful < 1363725400 614726 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, grah, those sorts of messages annoy me. They always end up in some random channel in this client < 1363725404 755231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: keep reading < 1363725408 492466 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Giles%27_Cathedral but who cares < 1363725423 6257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Maybe they've just turned up the colour saturation slider. < 1363725448 686851 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... this is the nicest church i've entered http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Lille_eglise_Saint_Maurice_arriere.jpg < 1363725459 75364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Church_of_Kerimaki.jpg MOAR CHURCH (that's the woody one) < 1363725463 114812 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: wow what a shitty church < 1363725466 22996 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first one < 1363725467 637732 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Mary%27s_Cathedral,_Edinburgh_(Roman_Catholic) is quite nice inside < 1363725470 728438 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what appears to be my current parish's church: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Jean-Berchmans_Church < 1363725477 895150 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it's from the past < 1363725478 563652 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that looks kinda ridiculous < 1363725482 918132 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything was shitty in the past < 1363725493 404021 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is PDPC anyway < 1363725499 582999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how the static version of the blog post is also down < 1363725534 882195 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is freenode down? am I here? are you here? who are you < 1363725542 773991 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PDPC = Peer-Directed Projects Center < 1363725549 451840 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: There's a persistent (though untrue) legend that the biggest wooden church was built so big due to unit confusion when reading the plans. < 1363725584 205517 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://v2.nonxt1.c.bigcache.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/172281.jpg wins the church wars btw < 1363725593 250161 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the actual reason is that the vicar at the time just wanted a church that's big enough to hold half of the people of the town (at the time, 12000 people). < 1363725607 895806 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's a cute legend < 1363725639 220424 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: PDPC own Frenode < 1363725648 152488 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"to further reduce costs we have also discontinued the majority of infrastructure services for which the organisation paid, together with the reduced administration and organisational fees this means that we are now in a position where our outgoings are restricted to domain renewals! " < 1363725650 497764 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1363725657 255491 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://planet.freenode.net.nyud.net has a working copy of the boring message. < 1363725657 478747 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's paying for the servers? < 1363725662 278468 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And bandwidth? < 1363725671 28896 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Notice] -mrmist- [Global Notice] As a P.S. to the last global, no, we're not dying or going away. < 1363725682 826567 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: many people < 1363725686 672308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are freenode servers all over the globe < 1363725690 453626 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously though guys http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/Temppeliaukio_Church.jpg you have to hand it to the finnish < 1363725699 30116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1363725700 831133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1363725706 691130 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In practise it means very little" k < 1363725719 121389 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same was said about Cybertown after Blaxxun went bankrupt < 1363725728 838156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1363725731 166264 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kind of reminds me of the church in nowhere, ireland < 1363725733 532768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now #haskell-in-depth is talking about haskell vs. python < 1363725734 267218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except less shitty < 1363725753 497324 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: did you actually construct that sentence < 1363725759 181494 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ooh, it's further evidence for an observation I made recently < 1363725784 525776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is that server space is now cheap enough, in most cases, that it no longer makes sense to fund it via any means but simply paying for it yourself < 1363725787 845903 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't have any of those impressive cathedral-style churches, though, I don't think. < 1363725788 667316 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i can't say i like that temppeliaukio thing but that's because i hate modern church architecture kind of irrationally < 1363725789 117993 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1363725795 921720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even asking for donations is too much effort < 1363725810 622817 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1363725830 633415 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what gets me is that it looks like it belongs in, like < 1363725831 547610 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hawaii < 1363725833 631492 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not finland < 1363725848 164955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: so it'd have like a one hundredth of an esolanger? that sounds gruesome... <-- it's ok there's just this crazy guy that gets possessed by an esolang spirit every friday the 13th < 1363725923 828405 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1363726001 810549 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've got these kind of things http://bonovox.squarespace.com/storage/uspenski-orthodox-cathedral-cc-ja-macd.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2566/3725590329_b0dc9f846d.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Johanneksen_kirkko_Johannes_church_crop.jpg in Helsinki that sort of try to look generically impressive, but don't really manage so much. < 1363726038 121173 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, only the last really looks churchy < 1363726073 358804 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1363726105 684107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :People climb to the roof between the twin towers of the last one every now and then. < 1363726117 2092 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not for any particular reason, just because. < 1363726120 820160 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's discouraged, of course. < 1363726124 991033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :first one looks like maybe a government building < 1363726126 206647 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :courthouse maybe < 1363726136 234794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :second one looks like another governemnt building < 1363726151 924148 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :third one looks like a kind of hal-hearted church < 1363726183 219300 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :First one is the main place of the orthodox church of Finland, or whatever their official name is. < 1363726233 877995 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I guess the second one is the same for the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland. < 1363726244 247863 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The state religion.) < 1363726244 499886 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363726312 91731 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah that too < 1363726502 661372 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first one reminds me of the kelvingrov < 1363726503 663054 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1363726663 269612 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh! Amazon quadrupled the price between adding to the basket and checking out. :-( < 1363726666 314723 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(again) < 1363726738 760344 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this will certainly be the most... coastal anime con I've attended < 1363726742 479261 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of 2, to be fair < 1363726753 357612 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read that as amazon quadruped < 1363726765 202322 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably some kind of capybara < 1363726786 852304 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's practically on the beach < 1363726875 833679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic2: do you consider that to be an attempt to get you to buy it at four times the price? < 1363726895 529737 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to have accidentally created an Orkut account < 1363726904 261310 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1363726906 879976 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1363726929 33023 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh < 1363726939 529664 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it treatable < 1363727029 703665 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think the amazon sellers run software to continually adjust their prices. E.g. �0.01 below the lowest price. Or the lowest price +10%, or whatever. < 1363727039 705827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic2: oh right < 1363727065 530770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's anything like the typical MMO economy, and I don't see why it wouldn't be, if something's in short supply then the higher-priced sellers will buy it from the lower-priced sellers < 1363727073 278578 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's amusing when to price bots get together, especially if they're working on +10% or something. Books can be priced in the millons < 1363727111 528347 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1363727115 845688 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I visited the Orkut home page and since I was logged into some google service (looked like it was using YouTube's information), it made an Orkut account for me. < 1363727125 470305 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1363727132 284444 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1363727178 445806 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1363727186 834821 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's even books listed 2nd hand which haven't been published yet. < 1363727201 743329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: There have been a couple of articles about algorithmic Amazon pricing; one of them involved sellers that put up things for sale that they don't actually have in stock, with a high price. < 1363727233 541460 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I still don't regret deleting all my Google accounts < 1363727250 335494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=358 "Amazon’s $23,698,655.93 book about flies" is at least one I've read. < 1363727256 399341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not sure I'd recommend it to other people < 1363727308 542490 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet someone's laundering money through Amazon by listing books which don't exist. < 1363727328 91996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a feedback loop of two companies, one setting price to 0.9983 of the other, while the other setting it to 1.270589 of the first one. < 1363727355 435239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since 0.9983*1.270589 > 1... < 1363727381 609982 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if I can list a book at �0.50 or something so the algorithmic pricers change to �0.49 or something. < 1363727397 654398 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then buy the book I want and delete my listing... Might save me a few � :-) < 1363727406 485038 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a few copies of the book just in case < 1363727418 813071 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd just cancel the orders. < 1363727462 413734 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic2: the algorithmic pricers might immediately attempt to buy it, instead < 1363727541 833514 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it'd be worth a try :-) < 1363727569 114991 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like a copy of "Lisp in Small Pieces" but �46 is too high... < 1363727574 801724 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may be ever so slightly illegal < 1363727595 353934 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not illegal, though I'm sure it's against Amazon's T&C < 1363727599 133215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :£sd < 1363727609 272995 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: are you brazilian now < 1363727617 203092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: Your irssi window doesn't have to close when you leave a channel. <-- for quite a while i had this empty no. 2 or was it 3 window that i didn't know how to get rid of. < 1363727624 859645 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1363727697 342930 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Isn't that £$₫ or something. < 1363727706 974056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pounds, dollars, and dongs? < 1363727714 263214 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1363727726 713351 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :librae, sesteces, and denarii < 1363727726 922208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pounds, Dollars, and Dongs: The KMC Story < 1363727732 394113 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just pirate books like a normal person < 1363727736 164648 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :�sd = pounds, shillings and pence (if you're old enough to remember) < 1363727739 983302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "KMC"? < 1363727744 753548 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can /pirate/ books!? < 1363727745 775234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :đồngs i guess < 1363727747 792508 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't ask why d = pence, because I don't know < 1363727756 194044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic2: latin, Taneb had it already < 1363727780 463338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why L = pounds < 1363727785 643507 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how have you survived up to now < 1363727793 653020 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :GitS:SAC had yen-euro-dollars, IIRC; in an episode called ¥€$. < 1363727801 48444 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, by never reading ever < 1363727815 453018 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that was one currency, just a bunch of stuff the assassin shoved into her arm < 1363727817 872726 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :libra pondo :-) < 1363727820 340530 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: so the answer is "I haven't" < 1363727833 883597 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i mention this because i have a pirated copy of lisp in small pieces, specifically. < 1363727841 314593 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I generally get physical books from a local bookshop < 1363727849 526127 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Examples are 13-fold ionized iron (Fe13+), or Fe (XIII) in spectroscopic notation, found in the Sun's corona, or naked uranium (U92+), bare all bound electrons, which requires very high energy for its production." wow. wikipedia's writing < 1363727855 502134 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"naked uranium bares all bound electrons" < 1363727864 610525 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/physicists/ < 1363727874 643282 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know hexham had a bookshop < 1363727882 532397 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for 1 penny = 1d, d is for denarius < 1363727883 983065 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a bookshop but not books < 1363727893 133426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cheeseshop but no cheese < 1363727893 512850 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right same here < 1363727894 753294 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it has 2 selling new books, and at least 2 second hand < 1363727919 965017 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean you can't just go down to the local bookshop and buy Intelligence as Adaptive Behavior or whatever obscure nonfiction shit < 1363727928 32838 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you live in portland maybe (assholes) < 1363727945 642686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the conspiracy theories about how NAFTA is trying to introduce a North American "Amero" currency < 1363727951 33507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :powell's++ < 1363727956 924650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause I'm sure the US wants to be in a monetary union with Mexico < 1363727964 192363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to go to Portland again so I can go to Powell's. < 1363727969 453800 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got three books on neurodynamics from powell's, all sold to them by the same guy < 1363727972 433135 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty awesome < 1363728000 350630 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: physicists need to get out more? < 1363728010 326266 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, if I ever want to learn to program on an Amiga, I know EXACTLY where to go to buy some books < 1363728023 692652 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a BBC Micro < 1363728036 354536 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a 6800 < 1363728045 333318 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a 6502 < 1363728067 53529 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need to buy books < 1363728072 33501 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the information you need is on the internet < 1363728073 933537 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/forth_on_the_atari.jpg < 1363728084 233779 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to learn to program a Z80, Zilog used to send you the book for free. < 1363728085 813426 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't tell if you're making a sincere statement or not < 1363728095 1107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Postage paid, and all. < 1363728101 74665 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think that image was edited to give the guy a boner < 1363728108 164708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the dream of the 90's is alive in portland < 1363728117 653588 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Nowadays they only give you the PDF for free.) < 1363728152 343185 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: just for accuracy < 1363728154 543258 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the subject < 1363728165 282968 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://internetcensus2012.github.com/InternetCensus2012/paper.html so um < 1363728172 974332 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We used these devices to build a distributed port scanner to scan all IPv4 addresses." < 1363728173 536731 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure that guy had a boner from the beginning < 1363728187 620660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh they're standing on a keyboard < 1363728188 64989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1363728193 555134 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, it seems that is the original image < 1363728205 763067 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a great image < 1363728209 883412 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found a photo of the cover < 1363728210 475530 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, I'd first need one of those computery things < 1363728210 929142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1636/sicpcl6.jpg < 1363728217 380712 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it has the boner too < 1363728219 944827 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Bike that Forth book looks amazing < 1363728229 729194 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :) < 1363728230 783393 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty great at parties < 1363728232 773830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall someone else scanning the whole IPv4 address space too. < 1363728241 942967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what, even the multicast noes an the private use region? < 1363728244 212871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ones < 1363728244 421976 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"After completing the scan of roughly one hundred thousand IP addresses, we realized the number of insecure devices must be at least one hundred thousand." < 1363728247 848029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more here http://www.globalnerdy.com/2007/09/14/reimagining-programming-book-covers/ < 1363728269 666227 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1363728270 424061 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the forth one isn't an edit though, which is the good part. way better than some sketchy animal < 1363728271 293554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, CLC-INTERCAL has a really brilliant way of handling IPv6 < 1363728279 633167 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you look up an IPv6 address as if it were a domain name < 1363728282 745296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i Die Gnu Autotools < 1363728293 805259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it gives you an IPv4 address (in the multicast region) that you can use as a substitute < 1363728298 553192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :SICP already has a pretty funky cover, though. < 1363728308 353546 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: this just reminds me how fucking terrible fantasy art is < 1363728309 812974 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1363728313 53350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is probably the most backwards-compatible method I've ever seen, I recommend adding it to glibc < 1363728343 1580 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I find that mildly amusing < 1363728343 344883 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um what if you want to connect to 1000000005823489723894723894728934723894723894892342349823489234 ipv6s simultaneously < 1363728350 530648 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay the why's poignant guide one is awesome < 1363728364 877461 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the woman on the FORTH book is wearing some kind of upside down bra < 1363728367 440347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well then it doesn't work but you'd run out of other resources first, like file handles < 1363728369 784612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there even a name for such an item < 1363728377 34548 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sex toy? < 1363728381 982656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ket? < 1363728390 780699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes they both do appear to be dressed in bondage gear < 1363728391 954507 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬_¬ < 1363728401 206689 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a push-down? maybe it's some sort of pun on stacks < 1363728416 700182 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god that would be awful so it's probably true < 1363728440 79545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.signalnoise.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/i_atari2_2.jpg < 1363728441 552831 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: There's a real compatibility thing that does vaguely something like that; though there you actually look up a real domain name; if it has an IPv4 record, it returns that; but if it only has an AAAA record, it makes up an IPv4 address that (for that program) works as a substitute. < 1363728457 464289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: neat < 1363728471 306665 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what is that, breakout? < 1363728479 324539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUZZ ALDRIN SPACE RAINBOW TENNIS™ < 1363728508 84357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :package includes: Atari cartride, glass pipe, 20x Salvia divinorum extract < 1363728556 884380 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just trying to imagine the actual game, since i don't think psychedelic demos (psychedemia?) was really possible on an atari < 1363728564 24153 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe in forth < 1363728606 293137 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrhJ9wDNWm4 < 1363728667 465107 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :salvia is awful < 1363728669 125727 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just made the classic blunder didn't I. assuming a demoscene hacker can't make a system shock remake out of a pile of twigs and copper < 1363728695 675355 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: See http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ngtrans-bia-03 for the details of it, if you like. < 1363728702 275047 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is salvia basically http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3628/hmmev.gif < 1363728717 262832 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If only the AAAA record is available, it requests the address mapper to assign an IPv4 address corresponding to the IPv6 address, then creates the A record for the assigned IPv4 address, and returns the A record to the application." < 1363728727 635388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmt: yeah seems about right < 1363728745 394740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmt: we would have also accepted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX3iLfcMDCw < 1363728750 262736 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is salvia basically http://img.foodnetwork.com/FOOD/2008/11/24/GL1B13_Country-Bread-and-Sage-Dressing_lg.jpg < 1363728751 484207 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like the opposite of awful. what am i missing < 1363728811 663214 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :two hands should be enough for anyone < 1363728863 908679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the realization that lurking just outside your Plato's Cave view on reality are entities you can never comprehend < 1363728875 474146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps the feeling that you didn't return to quite the right universe < 1363728880 423239 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who don't like you very much < 1363728881 952188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which will haunt you forever < 1363728894 793974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, yolo < 1363728901 990922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: If you want to verify that, just go to http://pouet.net/prodlist.php and multiselect all platforms that start with "Atari", then poke the submit button; then go through the entries one by one. (There are only 242 pages of 25 results each.) < 1363728903 75505 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically the scariest shit ever < 1363728970 755503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend took it and experienced several months of subjective time, during which he learned that he'd poisoned himself with the drug and was slowly dying while his family and friends came to the hospital to ask him why he had done this thing < 1363728982 24244 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds way better than your average horror film < 1363728992 193184 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to be really scared, sure, try salvia < 1363729000 923570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then after he died he came back to our reality about three minutes later < 1363729006 5945 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're mostly making me want to try it to see how it compares to my nightmares < 1363729008 213787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :three minutes from whe he'd smoked it < 1363729041 114230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: best prank ever < 1363729049 709361 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though clearly i should try something less strong first, like mama's classic style ditryptamines < 1363729060 778627 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i've heard of people being trapped for thousands of years < 1363729064 593327 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :subjective time is a bitch < 1363729081 503128 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good way to extend your lifespan < 1363729087 774150 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The BIA draft also refers to a slightly related BIS approach of RFC2767.) < 1363729087 982467 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1363729098 854019 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that really subjective time? or more like when dreaming and you "know" that it's suddenly a thousand years later? < 1363729120 914504 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the latter insofar as you can define subjective time < 1363729125 841006 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you heard of junji ito? < 1363729134 402517 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it is enough for it to be subjective knowledge that you're stuck there for thousands of years for each moment of the experience to be unbearably unpleasant < 1363729152 124663 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no < 1363729160 214301 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There seems to be an absolutely amazing number of RFC documents on IPv6 transition methods of various levels of freakiness.) < 1363729161 963832 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems a bit improbable to experience significantly more time than normal < 1363729162 413861 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he wrote a comic called "Long Dream" < 1363729170 548183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i'm happy to provide drug recommendations < 1363729172 374065 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about a guy who kept having longer and longer subjective dreams every night < 1363729188 504582 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drug recommendation #1: don't try salvia < 1363729190 257471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't mean to discourage people from trying salvia, if it really sounds like a good idea after all the above < 1363729207 85117 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :three nights in he wakes up talking about how he barely remembers the doctor, it was so long ago < 1363729210 256349 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. good comic < 1363729211 23683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh also another friend would take salvia and then just beg me to make sure he never took it again, without giving specifics < 1363729216 234232 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like the only use for it is to gauge your mental strength < 1363729222 362319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then after he came down 3 min later, had no idea why and shrugged it off < 1363729230 953610 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your acceptance of death and stuff like that < 1363729232 193206 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you're the one who linked that pikhal page, right? i already convinced a friend we should try it < 1363729232 913042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drug recommendation #0 [a meta-recommendation]: don't talk about drug recommendations on freenode channels, I'm pretty sure it's against the policies and/or guidelines. < 1363729240 723535 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: which page < 1363729246 604786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH NO THE POLICIES < 1363729252 216281 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that sounds like a good comic < 1363729256 744575 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: some drug that affected your perception of sound < 1363729263 123232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh DiPT < 1363729264 583306 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's a musician, he thought it souned great < 1363729273 813736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit obscure but yeah you should try it, if you can get it from a safe and trusted source < 1363729301 381847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is quite unlikely :/ < 1363729312 434052 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously I should make it myself. Totally safe. < 1363729326 783662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah if you have a trustd friend with organic synthesis skills and access to a lab < 1363729329 653449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then do that < 1363729333 293999 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.justmegawatt.com/comics/longdream.html I forgot, the other part of Long Dream is about this chick who's morbidly (ha! ha!) afraid of death < 1363729340 681011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ooh give me a drugs recommendation < 1363729341 943790 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fizzie threatening to kick kmc < 1363729353 217177 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute imo < 1363729360 665709 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: With my reputation? No, I'm just sort of hinting. < 1363729361 256389 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's not how I read it < 1363729380 303959 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this channel is also publicly-logged so i'm pretty sure the feds are at kmc's door as we speak < 1363729395 384446 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have to book you for possession of some creepy-ass shit < 1363729398 853355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1363729406 534552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have any DiPT or any salvia < 1363729412 643715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are tales of years ago < 1363729415 279699 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good cya < 1363729419 723969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :da feds < 1363729426 608505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could take it to the #esoteric-drugs subchannel, though; that's what usually gets done. (I'm sure everyone who'd join #esoteric-drugs would *certainly* assume the "esoteric" refers to esoteric programming languages.) < 1363729427 53706 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :salvia is legal in most places < 1363729442 934662 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: has that literally ever happened before < 1363729445 524243 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm guessing no < 1363729451 67538 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's legal because nobody really wants to abuse it < 1363729453 603779 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i am sure the statue of limitations has passed on literally everything you have ever done also right < 1363729461 303712 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually live in a state with legal weed, and I'm pretty sure strong hallucinogens are basically the same as weed? < 1363729471 616905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway something like DiPT is too obscure to circulate in the usual drug black markets, except maybe sold as something else and that sucks bigtime < 1363729472 78555 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure. < 1363729473 164906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Quite a lot of minecraft talk did end up in #esoteric-minecraft back then. < 1363729486 263588 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Isn't the point of pikhal and tikhal making it yourself? < 1363729486 714150 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Countries where salvia is controlled in some manner include: Australia, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Italy, Japan, the United States, Russia, Spain, and Sweden" yay, we've made the list. < 1363729488 825169 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why shouldn't minecraft talk be here? < 1363729506 474620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'research chemicals' that aren't illegal can be bought direct over the Internet from sketchy synthesis companies in China < 1363729512 185352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :occasionally they mess up and send you poison < 1363729520 94076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you need to know which ones are functioning and not a scam this week < 1363729522 454220 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmt: Because it's off-topic and was crowding out on-topic stuff? (Hypothetically, anyway.) < 1363729529 913833 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it off-topic :( < 1363729545 355198 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly the most successful esoteric language ever < 1363729546 613437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably you could also buy it on Silk Road < 1363729556 33656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how do you know what you're getting < 1363729565 543319 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmt: minecraft is boring < 1363729573 582511 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1363729588 784176 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is boring but it is still on-topic < 1363729597 683845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :salvia being legal is kind of a problem because irresponsible assholes sell it as 'legal weed' and idiots buy it and hurt themselves < 1363729603 444364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :psychologically if not physically < 1363729617 453996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc. the solution is not to ban salvia but to legalize weed < 1363729637 344746 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt people get seriously hurt < 1363729644 84532 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they were schizophrenic to begin with < 1363729644 534229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pycon.blogspot.com/2013/03/pycons-response-to-inapropriate.html you can't smoke weed at PyCon < 1363729661 203269 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo < 1363729675 624390 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can't do anything fun at pycon to start with < 1363729678 974668 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's about python < 1363729683 94232 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they saying guido wasn't high when he came up with significant indentation < 1363729691 317379 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :family friendly environment? < 1363729710 523981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :indoctrinate your kids with python at an early age < 1363729713 174674 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they'll never become programmers < 1363729713 625967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmt: imo indentation syntax is great, as long as it's just sugar for an explicit form < 1363729717 5007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's where python goes wrong :( < 1363729724 583754 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imo python is great < 1363729734 332466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :python akbar < 1363729750 554044 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and people who don't like significant whitespace are very stupid people < 1363729771 674808 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kind of people who would ban weed smokers from python conferences.. < 1363729774 963582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who don't like $my_favorite_thing aren't Real Hackers anyway < 1363729779 163702 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit's getting meta. < 1363729782 446013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoking inside is a dick move though < 1363729787 467450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether it's weed or tobaccy < 1363729798 704863 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmt: The parts that would arguably make it an esolang are reasonably minor, and weren't mostly involved in the discussion. Anyhow, you can go read the logs around the time when #esoteric-minecraft was established; IIRC there was mostly a consensus, of sorts. < 1363729803 963805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(All this babbling should really be on #esoteric-en anyway, right?) < 1363729844 116774 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like fragmentation of a community of 10 people < 1363729854 534204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not 10 people. < 1363729864 324055 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right. it's less < 1363729864 532781 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric-minecraft is unused anyway < 1363729870 844165 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for actual server chat except that never happens < 1363729874 804852 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was used back when minecraft was popular < 1363729882 993802 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is anyone playing on their server? < 1363729884 234691 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone remember that part in unix-haters where they made fun of usenet (posts about how to organize usenet) < 1363729885 144178 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people mostly weren't playing it for redstone, and redstone isn't that interesting as an esolang < 1363729885 604340 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, two weeks ago < 1363729887 455705 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :best part, i think < 1363729907 796327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it was the minecraft people who moved to -minecraft anyway < 1363729940 454282 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :redstone is so annoying to make anything in < 1363729943 493252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that we didn't spoil their minecraft discussion with esolangs? < 1363729959 631214 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and I don't think anyone even suggested that would be "fragmenting the community" somehow. < 1363729960 224301 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes -minecraft is used for Dwarf Fortress < 1363729963 83201 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of which < 1363729963 823823 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :redstone is super annoying < 1363729965 934091 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Phantom_Hoover < 1363729969 193396 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and people can be in multiple channels < 1363729973 423818 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1363729974 94390 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a hallmark of a good esolang < 1363729985 94087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliottcraft would also be annoying to make things in < 1363729991 594485 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1363729991 893938 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have most of a spec, but haven't gone close to attempting to implement it < 1363729992 553481 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, convince elliott to start a fortress < 1363729995 583565 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwarf fortress news?? < 1363729996 485605 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish dwarf fortress were less buggy :( < 1363730001 695667 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, start a fortress you fucker < 1363730003 293981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahahaha me start a fortress < 1363730007 208936 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about Taneb starts it < 1363730007 494393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw: elliottcraft is my language, it's just named after someone else) < 1363730008 314565 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dwarf Fortress pestering, I'm afraid < 1363730016 553560 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: call the fortres something stupid please < 1363730035 613360 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been playing dwarf fortress a lot recently < 1363730040 853584 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, my laptop is playing up and I never resolved the chinese graphics card fiasco so I can't use my computer < 1363730046 143572 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if you can still use the UNCOUTH names for your fortress < 1363730048 233800 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmt, want to start a succession fortress? < 1363730052 543778 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1363730059 943238 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rules: < 1363730072 364058 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Head of the military is named after Gre_gor < 1363730075 513737 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without _ < 1363730084 304180 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Farmer is named after me < 1363730107 354658 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dorf named after elliott gets a lavish room unless you don't want him to < 1363730114 894131 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1363730120 123872 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. < 1363730146 807513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, that bug in Konversation we found earlier today has been fixed already < 1363730149 514576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was quite a turnaround < 1363730374 305126 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.justmegawatt.com/comics/assets/comics/horror/longdream/07.jpg so this is salvia eh < 1363730380 135636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1363730384 654863 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\x y -> y . x y) id (+1) 0 < 1363730385 984329 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no < 1363730386 761149 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1363730394 398323 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1363730403 113437 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does not seem representative < 1363730438 299414 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let p x y = y . x y in p (p id) (+ 1) 0 < 1363730440 713686 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 < 1363730453 494038 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let p x y = y . x y in p (p (join fmap)) (+ 1) 0 < 1363730455 523957 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1363730507 593708 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :riduhaskell < 1363730612 184223 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-68-168.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1363730635 23491 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have told him to take it into #esoteric-haskell < 1363730662 784739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's called #esoteric < 1363730717 411569 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it shouldn't be < 1363730744 804874 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you were just arguing against fragmentation < 1363730745 13253 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since haskell is not an esoteric language.. < 1363730751 953989 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i changed my mind < 1363730765 935670 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you need to be in #esoteric-fragmentation then < 1363730867 423937 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fragmentation of consciousness < 1363730868 917987 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on salvia < 1363730916 544503 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.justmegawatt.com/comics/assets/comics/horror/longdream/27.jpg how about this is this salvia < 1363730926 254298 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it this esoteric < 1363730928 344528 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this haskell? < 1363730934 103505 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1363730937 164744 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is haskell < 1363730946 514723 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh < 1363730953 537808 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's falling apart into monads... < 1363731012 225762 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monad tutorials blow him away < 1363731050 769220 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tragic fate < 1363731317 113782 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://internetcensus2012.github.com/InternetCensus2012/images/clientmap_16to9_1600x900.jpg dang, they made a map of infectees. < 1363731813 465065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i'm pretty sure your previous picture wasn't haskell. hth. < 1363732729 826264 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: here's salvia http://i.imgur.com/Z4d8scj.gif < 1363732988 234621 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :salvia has a good raytracer < 1363733268 435184 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and animation and lzw compression and a 256-color palette < 1363733304 984954 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This website put a 500GB HD as "destitute" < 1363733574 265823 :impomatic2!~digital_w@211.25.113.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dwarf Fortress ought to be available for android :-( < 1363733603 914368 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PART :#esoteric < 1363733773 836630 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would the UI be like o.O < 1363733788 785326 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be dwarf fortressy < 1363733834 925317 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1363734740 605182 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, all functions are mapped to some sort of gesture < 1363734826 366022 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: i like the glossy digestive biscuit in lament's salvia picture < 1363734843 116004 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh this tutorial wants me to install node.js < 1363734884 30925 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no its not a node.js tutorial < 1363734925 980362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1363735019 636532 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh. It wants me to install node.js 0.8. This is 0.2.6 < 1363735077 157321 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1363735540 609106 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Quit: ragequit < 1363735545 797337 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, if node.js doesn't work, I'll skip/read those parts of the tutorial < 1363735603 946134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :node.~ath < 1363735653 740989 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1363735659 45336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1363735819 976452 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh joy if I can't get node.js working I get to figure out how to run a web server < 1363735839 456962 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you just want it locally that's not exactly hard < 1363735879 125723 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um Bike are you admitting to knowing things about node.js < 1363735881 641222 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very cool here < 1363735905 595971 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want node.js I want to do an angular.js tutorial < 1363735911 389900 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant, a web server < 1363735920 156193 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes in my workplace I'm known as the NodeMaster. < 1363735929 566115 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "do" do you mean "create" or "follow" and why < 1363735942 618336 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"follow" < 1363735948 483193 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Superheroic JavaScript MVW Framework definitely sounds like something to learn < 1363735949 470649 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because my job will involve AngularJS < 1363735963 936532 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah... < 1363735986 142276 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know anything about node.js except it's a server side javascript solution and something about CPS and some people like it and some people hate it yada yada it's probably awful < 1363736013 356083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should read http://blog.nelhage.com/2012/03/why-node-js-is-cool/ < 1363736015 727451 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yessss https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_server-side_JavaScript_solutions still exists < 1363736049 425894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tldr: it's cool because it designates a single way for network libraries to cooperate < 1363736065 175174 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty cool < 1363736079 752858 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people in the community argue that it's the only way this could be done and the only way to produce XXXTREME SPEEEED < 1363736084 525612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :both of which are false < 1363736105 286130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC's IO manager is a totally different approach to solving the same problem < 1363736112 315353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is a really important problem and something most languages suck at < 1363736121 605681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking as someone who has repeatedly been bashing his head against this problem in Python < 1363736137 112785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well node.js wants people to program in continuation passing style and also the author is a moron < 1363736137 556871 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(looks like Python 3 is also going to have a designated One True event loop library) < 1363736143 876204 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is imo enough for me to dismiss it as unfairly as i like < 1363736169 476003 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :liking things is so passé. < 1363736209 439431 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" the risk of bringing the whole world to a halt with an accidental blocking call," < 1363736217 356607 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How could one accidentally do a blocking call? < 1363736224 345990 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would there be blocking calls in the stdlib? < 1363736229 754662 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe when calling foreign code? < 1363736254 216513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: pure computation is one case < 1363736264 216368 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, good point < 1363736269 805595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, there are blocking calls in the stdlib for convenience when you don't need async < 1363736277 589213 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION winces
< 1363736288 506221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that the async versions are materially less convenient < 1363736291 165828 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of callback hell < 1363736333 597058 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to find the reason i decided the nodejs guy was a moron but google isn't helping :( < 1363736336 725436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one reason to prefer lightweight threads + IO manager < 1363736361 87518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 99.999% of the programming world has decided that threads are evil and stupid, because they are evil and stupid in python and ruby < 1363736392 75987 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get the IO manager thing < 1363736400 526928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1363736416 317105 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7ss6hi4O51qcc9h5o1_500.gif everything i know about node.js < 1363736426 867351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what < 1363736430 156174 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it jsut the underlying implementation of IO so that it co-operates with lightweight threads? < 1363736432 946411 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is there more to it? < 1363736439 736380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're asking me what the GHC IO manager does? < 1363736445 155639 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1363736453 786170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a big part of it yes < 1363736464 936031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i don't understand but i agree < 1363736498 166354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to make it cooperate with lightweight threads, you can't do blocking syscalls directly from your worker OS threads < 1363736509 398700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you block a whole OS thread for the sake of one lightweight thread < 1363736576 906239 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead, a lightweight thread just registers in a central place the IO it wants done, and will be woken up when it's completed < 1363736587 397027 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that worker is free to run other lightweight threads in the meantime < 1363736623 809091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now you just need an OS primitive for "wait for any of these IO operations to complete and lemme know about the first one that does" < 1363736633 357067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what select / poll / epoll / kqueue / etc. are for < 1363736665 106297 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way, on Windows, to tell when a subprocess you created is requesting input? < 1363736670 190644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1363736673 406706 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1363736691 606768 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My conclusion back in 2007 or 2008 that the answer was "no" ended up changing the specs of PSOX < 1363736706 507424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the idea of routing IO from thousands of concurrent requests through a single syscall is what makes node.js "webscale" < 1363736711 106308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's something GHC does for you as well < 1363736735 524885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, as it happens, GHC /does/ have a way to make arbitrary blocking C calls from a lightweight thread < 1363736750 617407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's more heavyweight than you would want for your basic IO mechanism < 1363736769 226237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the worst case it involves spinning up a new OS thread, if the call takes too long < 1363736877 916895 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, wonder if node.js has things like IRC libraries and Reddit libraries < 1363736881 946346 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might make me want to try it < 1363736904 955671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacker news library < 1363736919 883526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :library for applying to Y combinator < 1363736951 16836 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought node.js was a webserver why would it have irc why would it have reddit what would having reddit even mean < 1363736993 27715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no < 1363736998 396459 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :request to reddit for the latest and greatest in cat macros and commit suicide < 1363737005 26864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a language implementation and a framework for writing network programs of all kinds < 1363737009 936104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :often webservers, yes < 1363737013 456064 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ok. < 1363737020 901545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :its role is comparable to CPython + Twisted, for example < 1363737028 575907 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone use like, Javascript by itself, any more < 1363737028 784518 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1363737029 466463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Ruby + EventMachine? don't actually know anything about EM < 1363737044 716928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what would that mean? JS by itself doesn't have much of a way to interact with the outside world < 1363737047 905986 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well JS by itself can't really do anything < 1363737057 240412 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, JS plus DOM I guess? < 1363737066 828697 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes people do still write web applications using javascript < 1363737069 316549 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :js can do plenty of things like: be stupid, hecka stupid, oh god why would you ever use JS, i know i know < 1363737088 96673 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just remember moaning about having to learn jquery, and my much-better-at-webdev friend was like "uh you don't want to use js without it bro" < 1363737094 526165 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jQuery is a library < 1363737095 716381 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the equivalent of hashmaps in JS? Apparently using an object is a bad idea if keys are arbitrary < 1363737112 856463 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably hashmaps < 1363737113 606328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the equivalent is to punch yourself in the crotch repeatedly < 1363737114 536186 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a library but it does a lot of things. < 1363737114 745191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1363737134 926193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: anyway yes, some people do write JS web client code without any libraries other than provided by browser < 1363737146 587296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :typically generic things that are intended to work with jQuery or any of the many other similar libraries < 1363737149 914655 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes write really simple things without libraries < 1363737150 122295 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. i don't remember seeing any recently < 1363737153 407618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not /thatt/ bad < 1363737157 495627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can assume a recentish browser < 1363737160 223800 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i usually look, i guess < 1363737165 186655 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16240872/addtwittertoreader.htm < 1363737179 472731 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you wouldn't write a whole app without jQuery or whatever < 1363737187 906249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you might write a small library intended to be used in lots of very different apps < 1363737211 366581 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i wouldn't write js at all < 1363737213 307250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except sometimes i would < 1363737214 616112 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but usually not < 1363737215 757667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope this helps < 1363737224 736809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw a lot of people are now using client side MVC frameworks < 1363737228 586254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a lot nicer < 1363737229 644785 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1363737237 4288 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I guess that's what AngularJS is? < 1363737242 566824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with jQuery you do lots of imperative reaching into the DOM and changing this or that < 1363737254 598679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with an MVC framework you have dom elements tied to data structures and when the data changes, the DOM magically changes to match < 1363737260 286949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to a declarative template kind of thingy < 1363737285 646700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://www.devthought.com/2012/01/18/an-object-is-not-a-hash/ https://github.com/sid0/jsdict < 1363737297 892343 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, yeah, read that first thing a while ago < 1363737326 826677 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-130-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm wondering if objects are actually implemented with hashing. though i guess that might not make sense if there's lots of inheritance < 1363737379 466372 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever noticed nothing in javascript makes sense though < 1363737399 817956 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.41.213 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds