< 1361491908 67807 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1361491969 389654 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking about making it so you have to explicitly bind the values returned from a function to variables. No more of this implicit replacement stuff. so %(41,3)(a,b){ rest of computation } will mod 42 by 3 returning (13,2) and within the brackets "a" will be 13 and "b" will be 2 < 1361492022 683518 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there will also be more syntactical symmetry between function call and returns < 1361492045 946389 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, continuation passing style? < 1361492064 563450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminded me of IO < 1361492077 1848 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe, I don't know enough about continuation passing style < 1361492090 332959 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just thought it would be properly annoying < 1361492106 405946 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPS is a bit annoying to program in yeah :P < 1361492134 235857 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in CPS you'd have like lambda(a,b){ rest of computation } and %(41,3,that_lambda) < 1361492146 591745 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1361492151 55347 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except of course that the lambda itself takes a continuation < 1361492195 693985 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1361492213 151889 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you can't just do a "normal return", you have to pass something to a continuation < 1361492238 767291 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at some point you presumably have a semimagical continuation meaning "fuck this, print whatever and quit" < 1361492267 514038 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really that magical < 1361492270 85583 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.31.206 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361492299 786554 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine just kill the magic will ya < 1361492367 444412 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Manually CPSed code is nicer to write in Haskell than in Javascript, imo < 1361492375 678941 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was planing on makeing you write (((2 + 3) * 5) / (1-3)) as +(2,3)(a){ *(a,5)(b){ -(2,3)(c){ /(b,c)(d){ }}}} which does end up looking alot like continuations passing style < 1361492437 226082 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has the nice benefit of making it sequential when it didn't have to be sequential before. < 1361492593 598503 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+(2,3)(a,k){*(a,5)(b){-(2,3)(c){/(b,c)k}}} < 1361492600 954106 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nicely ugly yeah < 1361492711 540804 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice anti-benefit < 1361492734 240568 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have to talk about esolangs sometime elliott, or the opers will come down from on high < 1361492749 602282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean ops or opers < 1361492758 3700 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :opers < 1361492761 800756 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously the ops here don't care < 1361492773 972490 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have no standards < 1361492784 259286 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had an oper in here for like a month once :-> < 1361492803 823871 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IO actually looks pleasent < 1361492805 206490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :horrible time < 1361492806 908463 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how'd you chase 'em off? < 1361492811 399749 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I care < 1361492814 898860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just can't really do much about it < 1361492815 386328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruined all the bots, except fungot < 1361492816 181710 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i think the former evaluates the lambda with the up? girlfriend trouble?'. i refuse to believe you :p ( after all, so i can't be sure < 1361492832 989220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did the oper just go around banning bots, then? < 1361492847 150465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, Gregor's bots < 1361492847 349337 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good oper < 1361492886 120388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :until he rectified them < 1361493181 870686 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didnt actually ban < 1361493183 269204 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik < 1361493211 941831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just gave Gregor an offer he couldn't refuse < 1361493273 402941 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fire? < 1361493438 727962 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I will modify it so you don't need the curly brackets, because with the scope defining curly brackets it is identical to continuation passing style < 1361493761 636622 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and without brackets its identical to cps hmmm :| < 1361494758 109466 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IO has rather nice syntax too < 1361494927 278148 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361494967 875411 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1361495156 249368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t state < 1361495158 61958 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MonadState s m => (s -> (a, s)) -> m a < 1361495182 536011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong way around :( < 1361495184 189532 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be (s, a) < 1361495298 208728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that the way it _is_ it fits into Lens using the (,) a Functor... < 1361495341 839564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has been possessed by the adjunction demon < 1361495346 237305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, halfway possessed. < 1361495361 953555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1361495363 472148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's not possessed enough to see tht (_,s) is totally a functor. < 1361495404 274613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um i'm pointing out that (a,_) is a functor. i think. < 1361495422 980668 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well there is no s -> < 1361495432 29018 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need (s -> (a, s)) -> _ -> m a < 1361495439 514902 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er rather < 1361495443 69855 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need (s -> (a, s)) -> _ -> (a, a) < 1361495549 544898 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what i'm saying is that Lens' s a has the restricted type (s -> (b, s)) -> a -> (b, a) < 1361495590 845952 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1361495610 744982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which allows you to use it to change the state part < 1361495614 561674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not (a -> (b,a)) -> s -> (b,s)? < 1361495623 649965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...MAYBE < 1361495640 721778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't quite learned which goes where yet < 1361495654 298196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a lens library that represented lenses as State x a -> State x s, I think < 1361495666 902635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately that doesn't let you do some things. < 1361495668 442767 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hackage lenses < 1361495668 771433 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/lenses < 1361495682 696773 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can look to "traverse" for intuition < 1361495689 897304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> f b) -> t a -> f (t b) < 1361495693 518462 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so s is "bigger" < 1361495707 860888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1361495715 17658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s is the "subtype" hth < 1361495963 148632 :carado_!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1361495972 874626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1361495989 449318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also t is t b < 1361495994 253940 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@186.222.62.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361497336 898900 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361498841 317450 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1361498849 216369 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1361498987 717853 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does slist stand for sgeo's list? < 1361498997 850566 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1361499029 289488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++11 lets you declare functions with "auto foo(...) -> t" instead of "t foo(...)"? < 1361499095 450132 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what slist stands for < 1361499110 843925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid list < 1361499111 162444 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucky < 1361499112 412097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1361499268 140819 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yeah. < 1361499278 173453 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall the rationale. < 1361499340 516451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rationale seems to be that ... is in scope on the right side of the function. < 1361499814 983233 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy crap, Pringles sea salt and vinegar is surprisingly amazing. It's exactly the right mix of vinegar and potato. < 1361500013 197439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1361500021 680660 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"exactly the right mix of vinegar and potato"... < 1361500207 634779 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know pringles had potato in them < 1361500559 561889 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: They're made using potato *flour*. < 1361500566 998397 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That may be worth a try. < 1361500570 379094 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love salt & vinegar. < 1361500717 766659 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love salt, don't really know what vinegar tastes like, except apparently ketchup is vinegary? < 1361500742 383802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's actually surprisingly sweet < 1361500745 682338 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ketchup isn't a very good comparison. < 1361500750 739037 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty readily available, though, you could just try it to see if you like it < 1361500752 581694 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a vinegar, tomato, and sugar sauce. < 1361500770 214089 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of sugar. A *lot*. < 1361500791 344624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fish and chip shops (which are a UK thing) put salt and vinegar on everything they sell (except salad) by default, if you don't want them you have to ask them not to put it on < 1361500803 180543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I hardly ever add salt to food nowadays < 1361500821 702155 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do sort-of like it, but not enough for it to be worth the trouble, and it leaves my diet marginally better < 1361500832 956440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :salt & vinegar salad < 1361500847 22907 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Salt & vinegar salad seems a bit much. < 1361500847 445997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well putting oil and vinegar on salad is very common < 1361500848 851868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not salt < 1361500862 959827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :salad dressing is basically just a mix of oil and vinegar < 1361500867 81846 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's a salad actually made out of salt and vinegar < 1361500870 751366 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A vinaigrette, sure. < 1361500890 34855 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to love garlic salt when I was a kid < 1361500896 410309 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Keep in mind the US uses mayonaisse-based salad dressings too. < 1361500914 251384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: so does the UK, but we just call it mayonnaise < 1361500924 426030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's a separate concept from "salad dressing" < 1361500924 625256 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said "based". < 1361500928 88582 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are just egg oil and some lemon juice < 1361500929 461968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, hmm < 1361500930 385157 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ranch dressing ain't just mayo. < 1361500939 396094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that exists here too < 1361500940 714861 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :mayo just ain't aioli < 1361500951 653120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that it's not called "salad dressing" unless it's an oil/vinegar mix, it's called something else < 1361500973 639047 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the US, "salad dressing" refers to anything you could plausibly use as a sauce for salad. < 1361501017 259738 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence why it's ranch dressing, not ranch... i dunno < 1361501098 995834 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, for some reason Miracle Whip calls itself a salad dressing, but I've never even heard of anyone using it as such. < 1361501136 969186 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blech < 1361501151 966981 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much exclusively a sandwich spread thing. < 1361501168 913813 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also used for things like jello topping < 1361501921 386940 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people put miracle whip on jello? ew. < 1361501950 982942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jello = jelly, right? < 1361501955 825089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise people put any topping at all on that < 1361501973 115690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when using it as an ingredient to make trifle < 1361501992 744390 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK "jelly" yeah. Though calling it that will confuse Americans. < 1361502089 576281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1361502104 397797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guessed from the similarity of names, but it's quite a hard substance to explain < 1361502122 376323 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :US "jelly" is a particular type of fruit preserve. < 1361502159 253786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… something like UK "marmalade"? < 1361502186 526636 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, UK "marmalade" is US "marmalade". < 1361502222 915086 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :US "jelly" generally is made with the fruit pulp strained out in the preperation. < 1361502237 968796 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jam is when it is left in < 1361502251 142610 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1361502267 99459 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aspic is jello that happens naturally and then has the peices strained out of it < 1361502336 914933 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is "trifle" that people make with jello? < 1361502427 395847 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one dessert that uses jello,is made from miracle whip, cottage cheese mini marshmallows and lime jello < 1361502457 671686 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't taste nearly as bad as it sounds < 1361502522 270726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Who eats braised ivy? And what was with that owl all smeared in mayonnaise?... A fox fighting an eel, suspended in aspic. It was like a Nine Inch Nails video." < 1361502607 325922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: trifle is basically a layered desert made out of lots of other deserts < 1361502626 188815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's based around some sort of fruit, sponge, jelly[UK], custard, and cream < 1361502675 702832 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it’s basically a monoid? < 1361502762 377742 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes is is something like a trifle except shallower < 1361502809 547349 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and never includes anything that is made of flour < 1361502910 466222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: monads are like burritos, and monoids are like trifles? < 1361502929 17449 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A trifle satisfies the monoid laws. < 1361502930 166833 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 to four inches high instead of 6 to 8 inches, and no custard either, but can also have odd things like cottage cheese < 1361503123 344542 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: law 1. be easy? < 1361503712 277870 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361504325 385702 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@186.222.62.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1361504985 912894 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361506600 748377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://robohub.org/video-throwing-and-catching-an-inverted-pendulum-with-quadrocopters/ < 1361506619 136797 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking inverted pendulums man < 1361506792 717604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CR5y8qZf0Y < 1361506796 685129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :two quadcopters play tennis < 1361506798 651553 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do they work? < 1361506841 410444 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how many times they missed and completely wrecked one of the rotors < 1361506887 640285 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully no times < 1361506902 758985 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that wouldn't be such a great thesis < 1361507196 465445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI760jcFV2s < 1361507206 863895 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1361507213 533623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some mistakes are inevitable as you refine the algorithms < 1361507219 959026 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, he said it wrecked a rotor quite a few time < 1361507264 91007 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then they would have to recalibrate how that coptor moved to make the algorythm acurrate < 1361507269 549270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1361507281 183254 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :algorhythm < 1361507293 294217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the other ETH flying machine videos says that the robots learn about rotor wear < 1361507299 790423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from crashes and from everyday use < 1361507529 183510 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJOubyiITsE&NR=1&feature=endscreen more robots < 1361507539 959341 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they got the girl to stay still by projecting cartoons onto the ceiling < 1361507671 768358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxMTKsiaLwg < 1361507680 154626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what we will see after the robots conquer humanity < 1361507683 391409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they will do a little dance < 1361507884 499198 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do surveillance drones look somewhat like that? < 1361507907 154560 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like quadcopters? No. < 1361507938 654584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: wow < 1361507941 575105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is... quite something < 1361507950 366564 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Predators are kinda huge. Dunno what's used domestically. < 1361507952 186114 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a guy I know uses a homebuilt quadracoptor to take photos of his farm < 1361507971 312933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are all kinds of surveilance drones < 1361507978 635566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: that's excellent < 1361507999 838860 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he gives international talks about it < 1361508075 7196 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At first I thought the robots were going to put the girl on top of them and then fly < 1361508091 999575 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be cool, but this is good too. < 1361508148 842636 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you think a quadcotor is cool? this is twice as cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy4lXRaGCOU < 1361508206 617251 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it go quaternion:octonion::quadrotor:octorotor < 1361508228 359458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't argue with that < 1361508345 764129 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :two rotor coptors must be complex then < 1361508358 689321 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :regular helicopters are pretty darn complex < 1361508445 704491 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are one rotor helicoptors even real? < 1361508529 185254 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i pirouette and jump off a building < 1361508540 968319 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there are like, ones where you have one rotor but with two sets of blades on it? < 1361508573 550094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the rotors are powered by tipjets then you don't need a tail rotor < 1361508587 116603 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you going to pirouette and jump off a building < 1361508605 609895 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not, i'm no ballerino < 1361508621 671922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s65MGR36tjE < 1361508649 638708 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus. < 1361508670 959735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just think about the glorious VTOL rotodyne airliner future that never was < 1361508711 636199 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhh 20 rotodynes cost as much as one fixed-wing? that's kinda hard to swallow < 1361508727 606160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does it say < 1361508733 513109 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the video? < 1361508743 514512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember that bit < 1361508754 865474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought < 1361508760 105563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they said it was a comparable cost < 1361508851 116472 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "equal to any" not "equal twenty" < 1361508862 274966 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :derr. < 1361508945 720742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1361509018 570368 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But uh, doesn't it need the propellers to stay stable? < 1361509292 815066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDZelxNCLGk it's so cute < 1361509494 906955 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, the eyes < 1361510213 93585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how could i forget https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rypyjJCtGBE < 1361510233 967336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't miss the part with the cows < 1361510263 660632 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i forget that someone actually fuckin did that < 1361510797 467003 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1361510881 193568 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1361510915 862671 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's bringing dutch culture to the world < 1361512367 53676 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1361513839 210269 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1361514551 779232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :found via reddit, definitely ontopic: https://github.com/jbangert/trapcc < 1361514575 901916 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: someone managed to get the x86 MMU to run arbitrary code (and thus show it's a bounded-storage machine) < 1361514594 440433 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that a thing that someone here linked to a presentation that ended with that? < 1361514604 155315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it might have been linked earlier < 1361514623 228864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it seems pikhq linked it already < 1361514630 741254 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant longer ago < 1361514637 87362 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The CCC presentation < 1361514647 432708 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was all about... x86 ... stuff < 1361514649 580237 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1361514666 989461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc was talking about it. < 1361514667 780819 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc linked it a few weeks ago, i think < 1361514681 608972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex: seen kmc < 1361515100 493281 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hallo < 1361515116 840493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i linked to the game of life demo earlier today < 1361515125 203877 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to the 29C3 talk when that video was posted a few months ago < 1361515128 751480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Happy kmc++! < 1361515168 764334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks shachaf :) < 1361515189 89193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now we can finally have our answer to an age-old question. < 1361515206 523107 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a weird way of saying it's kmc's birthday < 1361515230 654457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was the standard thing to do on IRC. < 1361515231 752130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it isn't, there's been a surprisingly large number of accidental puns that could be interpreted that way < 1361515235 866010 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1 is surprisingly large) < 1361515247 441504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell/09.12.30:04:13:12 ah, i don't perceive much of a gap between 21 and 25. maybe i will when i'm 25 < 1361515277 269186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well I'm 25, and I don't see much of a gap except in terms of four years of learning < 1361515291 466269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I'm 4 years more experienced in teaching programming and in hardware compilation < 1361515296 339830 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's what I've been doing these 4 years < 1361515301 121283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apart from that, I feel pretty much the same < 1361515361 694811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shh, don't bias the jury. < 1361515400 318887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure "feel pretty much the same" is what "perceive much of a gap" means, though. Do you expect to not feel pretty much the same in, say, 40 years? < 1361515417 138922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or let's say 20 years. < 1361515529 590665 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure that as time goes on you'll see even less of a gap < 1361515541 931874 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keeping in contact with someone from my Senior Project was a bad idea < 1361515572 123699 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But first, you have to do this. Create a website of your resume. Use any language you know. Try to use all the skills you know." < 1361515588 471814 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :use php < 1361515592 817655 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of my knowledge is flat out inapplicable to a website dedicated to presenting a resume < 1361515602 5925 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if you use haskellscript. < 1361515617 350712 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to google that. It exists. < 1361515617 951934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :adascript < 1361515676 292832 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's probably a better idea to fix out senior project so I can actually link to it without being horrifically embarrassed. < 1361515688 531793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i will think about it :) < 1361515703 275888 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, making a website look good visually is not a skill I have. < 1361515725 520159 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, you're a programmer, not a designer < 1361515786 97934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit jim < 1361515786 297278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo is a programmer? < 1361515794 345727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Sgeo is a sgeogrammer < 1361515815 498605 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is sgeo the ideogrammation < 1361515817 288151 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeogrammation < 1361515837 726747 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, just because I spend 90% of my time talking about languages doesn't mean I don't spend some time actually writing programs. < 1361515871 469589 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`resume < 1361515872 561685 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :r�sum� < 1361515918 480160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :resume the résumé, by cole porter < 1361516026 666433 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cole Porter? I get that that's a person, but I don't know who it is or why e would have relevance to the joke. < 1361516034 741325 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*who e is < 1361516047 910403 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that a jazzist < 1361516078 669527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begin_the_Beguine < 1361516096 887344 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1361516138 274899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: are you using some variant of spivak pronouns here < 1361516144 496132 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1361516150 761354 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use singular they < 1361516167 15216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :singular they are the best < 1361516214 293768 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can assure you a number of people in here greater than 1 have used Spivak pronouns. < 1361516217 777328 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1361516225 90305 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, today I learned about Saint Josaphat. < 1361516237 781123 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, as you may be more familiar with him, Siddhartha Gautama Buddha. < 1361516282 459150 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't some buddhist saint i forget considered an incarnation of Mary < 1361516296 435818 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long game of telephone based on the Buddha. < 1361516316 540545 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a Buddhist, literally the Buddha. < 1361516764 925967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :literal operator suffixes not preceded by ‘_’ are reserved for future standardization < 1361516777 332867 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good emote < 1361516806 537390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think i figured out cruptopizzles #14 < 1361516819 293918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, I was supposed to work on that today. < 1361516827 658115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have tested the algorithm by hand, but too sleepy to write the code tonight < 1361516829 895702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should go home and do it. < 1361516854 91315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You're not doing it in assembly again, are you? < 1361516855 996677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't too hard, once i forced myself to sit down and think about it for a bit < 1361516872 576999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking about things where you have no idea how to proceed is scary < 1361516882 658689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I don't think it's that difficult. < 1361516894 145499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a partial solution. < 1361516905 20971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm not doing it in assembly :) < 1361517250 861352 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a link to cruptopizzles ? < 1361517381 589461 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best i have is https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/303964223485140992 < 1361517392 225383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's not a site, you just email the guy < 1361517499 929648 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone posted a link to a weird image in another chatroom < 1361517506 261758 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm wondering if that's one of those < 1361517511 533659 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1361517523 919913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are several weird images on the internet < 1361517531 800788 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/xQsEVYE.png < 1361517535 304717 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any relevance? < 1361517544 198198 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's a screenshot from a DS game < 1361517544 599323 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think so < 1361517559 41840 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, ah < 1361517560 329584 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it looks like just a straight cipher? < 1361517665 934808 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1361518146 860259 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah. I see a comment referring to a book. I know the name of the book, but the comment is from 2010. < 1361518205 95490 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361518235 940945 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1361518241 691000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, C++11 can let you say "char x{5};" but not "char x{256};"? < 1361518248 19636 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: gah? < 1361518261 155814 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: good question < 1361518267 931035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah sundheit monqy < 1361518346 309728 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The comment on here http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1996-01-29/ < 1361518363 776777 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a comment from 2010 on a comic that's older than my brother < 1361518372 685762 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, they got the name right I think < 1361518380 332770 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real question is why you're reading a dilbert strip from 1996 < 1361518383 696678 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real question is why you're reading a dilbert strip < 1361518409 131913 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real question is why < 1361518425 744755 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was reading a Dilbert strip from 1996 because someone commented on the most recent Dilbert strip and linked to that strip. < 1361518440 409399 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was practically raised by Dilbert. < 1361518450 95858 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know scott adams says that that the creationists have a point < 1361518510 288914 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scott adams says an awful lot of terrible things < 1361518511 583028 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said < 1361518515 783901 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I was practically raised by Dilbert. < 1361518525 208813 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :965) I was practically raised by Dilbert. < 1361518533 3095 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does thomas nagel and he's probably a smarter guy than adams < 1361518745 38969 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O at how long ago 1996 was < 1361518769 852340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1996 - 2016 < 1361518771 945710 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : -20 < 1361518774 98114 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1361518776 133053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that's quite a long time. < 1361518784 857232 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey sgeo you like animes right < 1361518787 784224 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What observation, that 1996 didn't really exist? < 1361518788 318039 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0026ERPHO < 1361518791 214199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it may have. < 1361518793 94776 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, at least some < 1361518796 932668 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do i want to click this < 1361518802 35472 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i will, inevitably < 1361518804 667308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but will i regret it < 1361518805 466171 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you know you do < 1361518821 523431 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1361518834 430929 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommend clicking this link < 1361518838 775046 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it improved my life < 1361518851 556159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its only 7 dollars < 1361518858 153552 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to buy it and uncover the mystery < 1361518868 240889 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a preview thing < 1361518874 170591 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no sgeo < 1361518877 346464 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be wrong < 1361518904 28274 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Customers Who Viewed This Item Also Viewed Sadness and Sorrow - The Themes of Naruto < 1361518910 367220 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... do not understand what this thing is. All I know is that I could hear words when I took headphones off, it was that low < 1361518913 460989 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :loud < 1361518913 970853 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: good < 1361518964 234836 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what bad things does Thomas Nagel say? < 1361518979 981281 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: creationism < 1361519028 584471 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to read the wikipedia article about him but the way it's written it ardly makes any sense < 1361519035 30848 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: noitdoesnot < 1361519070 540650 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello? < 1361519077 280306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1361519088 141535 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke < 1361519091 725992 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike's head < 1361519101 599132 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume < 1361519103 117689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo.................................................. < 1361519107 751900 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i get it < 1361519109 533411 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks sgeo < 1361519113 586727 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am now "in" on the "joke" < 1361519124 876353 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1361519139 636437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont get it < 1361519151 413615 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else are you R"hi("in" on)hi" < 1361519160 685750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(did i use correct C++11 syntax there) < 1361519182 524813 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c11 has that synxtax? < 1361519185 634473 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how to tell when someone's being sarcastic and someone's serious < 1361519189 24618 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, on the Internet < 1361519194 633424 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did any of you read "the emperor's new mind" < 1361519216 59676 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read a review of the emperor's new mind, does that count? < 1361519229 868460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't think C11 does? < 1361519233 914575 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get that uncomfortable feeling of, "wow you know so much more math than me but you're wrong for simple reasons" < 1361519243 644350 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. right now I can't tell if elliott genuinely does not get it, or if he's mocking me by pretending not to get it. < 1361519248 991255 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: yeah that's what dennett said too, sorta < 1361519252 540834 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: yeah it pretty much counts < 1361519257 748987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc i like penrose because he's crazy < 1361519263 553597 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this sure is a project you're embarking on here! unfortunately, no" < 1361519267 574248 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who are right can often be really boring < 1361519274 24686 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is penrose a cosmologist or just a physicist < 1361519281 62891 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reasonably sure there are no sane cosmologists < 1361519284 201431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i read "the road to reality" < 1361519288 112800 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is just a mathmatician < 1361519295 838865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:21 < ddarius> merijn: While I don't agree with much of what Penrose believes, "The Road to Reality" is a pretty amazing book. I can't believe he got it published. < 1361519340 384264 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's it about? < 1361519373 546311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should read: "Category Theory as Coherently Constructive Lattice Theory" < 1361519380 709811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a book, though, it's just a PDF. < 1361519422 547909 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: http://ndpr.nd.edu/news/35163-mind-and-cosmos-why-the-materialist-neo-darwinian-conception-of-nature-%20is-almost-certainly-false/ re nagel < 1361519426 449346 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that title scares the bejeebus out of me < 1361519431 938208 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, except without the space. < 1361519453 855748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :renagel? < 1361519463 337513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: It's not that scary! < 1361519468 207813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It explains all the words it uses straight off. < 1361519483 512632 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i understand all those words right now, gosh < 1361519488 791875 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that header image is great < 1361519489 521991 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't help that I don't know catagory theory < 1361519490 448710 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's randomised < 1361519493 415467 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that i'd understand the paper in any meaningful sense) < 1361519497 799660 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a catagory < 1361519498 147307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Don't worry, the actual text uses a whole lot more words. < 1361519500 156890 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: which image, then? < 1361519505 277521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it explains them too? < 1361519509 533971 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: thanks < 1361519521 153639 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: we have a nice guide to category theory < 1361519524 431397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :start from `? monad and work outwards < 1361519527 920705 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i have no idea how to copy it < 1361519594 451379 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's a background image huh < 1361519597 887200 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sux < 1361519626 477220 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this nagel thing looks pretty dull < 1361519670 228302 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book or the review < 1361519683 523410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the review gives me the information that it looks dull < 1361519703 698022 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for Nagel, if science can't come up with a theory of everything it has, in some deep sense, failed. < 1361519715 172434 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is his problem < 1361519722 394632 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is one of his problems < 1361519736 489789 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other problems include hegelian evolution crap < 1361519742 713373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems more like his definition of "everything" includes ", plus the bit science can't do, by (my) definition" < 1361519760 937082 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IM EXPERT IN THIS GUY AFTER HAVING READ THREE PARAGRAPHS ABOUT A BOOK HE WROTE < 1361519771 717906 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup :) < 1361519774 159534 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he wrote "What Is It Like To Be A Bat" < 1361519780 489058 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I think shachaf has read maybe < 1361519813 585418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just think that because I read _The Mind's I_. < 1361519833 859652 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously. < 1361519837 796127 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call it inference! < 1361519841 792518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Did you read that one book? < 1361519847 463252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :_The Soul of Anna Klane_ < 1361519856 322568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :_The Mind's I_ has two excerpts from it. < 1361519859 571032 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No but I looked it up and was like ?? what < 1361519872 561499 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's the one with the robot getting hammered right, and maybe the chimp on trial? < 1361519874 293068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, did you end up on that church website thing? < 1361519878 67213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, those two. < 1361519879 135489 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might have < 1361519882 929474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were good. < 1361519890 548472 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you read the one book? < 1361519906 202076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Miedaner got mad because Hofstadter used the chapters to make the opposite point of the one he was trying to make. < 1361519918 536654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which book? < 1361519934 129970 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1361519949 954824 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361519959 948194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh oh. < 1361519966 893340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you missed the last half hour of conversation? < 1361519984 391839 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. THat is what happened. < 1361519988 133841 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anna Klane I meant. < 1361519996 507853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I read it. < 1361520011 815489 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what church < 1361520013 576549 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it good? Did whoever make a dumb point? < 1361520038 651499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Church of Physical Theology, Ltd. < 1361520055 220329 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a reputable place to buy churching, yeah < 1361520056 194624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://beon-cpt.com/ < 1361520057 653514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy < 1361520057 913668 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a good name < 1361520073 634859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I enjoyed it despite the author being a bit silly. < 1361520079 627514 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1361520090 22977 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i couldn't deal with silly authors i couldn't read anything < 1361520090 313206 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are those desktop computers that are a really small box? < 1361520107 598110 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that philip k dick once sent a letter to the FBI alleging that Lem was a committee of soviet propagandists < 1361520117 482402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: um what about my books < 1361520119 676843 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't have books) < 1361520124 860200 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why not) < 1361520134 15885 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well what would i even write) < 1361520151 18491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You should read it! < 1361520156 42665 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw can someone make an awful bf derivative please < 1361520162 493028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want to read my copy? < 1361520162 692264 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like say Bike < 1361520166 480462 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a collection of erotic zzo38_ebooks fanfiction) < 1361520176 5771 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is it like online or what < 1361520177 205728 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I have a bf derivative, don't know if it counts as awful < 1361520185 595490 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is it even possible to write that) < 1361520189 436928 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no it has to be a new one < 1361520237 147876 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's almost trivial to make a Trustfuck derivative except the instruction set is shifted over. Does that help? < 1361520246 844855 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Not as far as I know. < 1361520250 259392 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1361520253 749397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My copy of it is floating around somewhere in WA, though. < 1361520268 130172 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is my bf derivative: the program consists of a number. to execute the program, you find a bf program that halts with that number in the first cell, and execute that. < 1361520295 460056 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, that's not much of a direction, but i'll be on the lookout for your distinctive lipstick on the cover? < 1361520304 30032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Sounds like a plan. < 1361520325 711929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It should be somewhere in the northern olympic peninsula, if that helps. < 1361520332 381738 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's too complex, sorry < 1361520349 442061 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the peninsula? i thought that was like, rural < 1361520356 634556 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember that time i made a bf derivative? i never wrote it down but its logged < 1361520361 622324 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive probably made < 1361520362 33461 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://beon-cpt.com/ reiterates an incorrect story of Galileo, he didn't get in trouble for his ideas, he got in trouble for being an ass. < 1361520362 238312 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1361520362 586178 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1361520364 33499 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i forget was it good < 1361520364 771083 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the spot < 1361520376 891999 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: everybody reiterates that wrong though < 1361520378 598521 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: & also can you put one on the wiki, pref. the dumbest & most trivial < 1361520381 622154 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wont judge < 1361520396 316323 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you will < 1361520410 813350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Maybe? < 1361520416 490547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a small town, <10000 people. < 1361520433 675413 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you like, sell it, or just leave it in the well < 1361520437 318458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming that's where my book is. I don't actually know. < 1361520442 644355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I left it with my sister. < 1361520451 38396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows what she did to it. < 1361520457 589423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lived in WA for years, y'know.
< 1361520509 214704 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :up by sequim? < 1361520536 67503 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man i don't even know the geography of my own state, i'm a failure < 1361520536 834727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That general area. < 1361520549 952278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You own WA?! < 1361520583 84680 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i own dicks < 1361520731 490390 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this about Worms? < 1361520761 445631 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no worms < 1361521072 219674 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the northern olympic peninsula has native species of cacti < 1361521098 643951 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and octopuses! < 1361521224 696702 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: yes http://zapatopi.net/treeoctopus/ < 1361521977 412296 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1361522069 857932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My laptop's lid-detection thing seems to be broken. < 1361522082 216309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm used to closing it and putting it in my bag, though. < 1361522088 973832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it overheats and shuts off. < 1361522091 762603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas. < 1361522245 737788 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like it's working < 1361522303 809314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1361522349 284078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you want it to shut off when you close it < 1361522351 448993 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it does < 1361522404 608849 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :runtime type checking has it's drawbacks :( < 1361522411 644694 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {}pd < 1361522411 844000 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (r[) Empty list! < 1361522422 447197 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the product of an empty list is generally defined as 1 < 1361522435 336022 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't let product return 1 on empty lists. < 1361522440 476071 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1361522444 696119 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1361522448 322305 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What type is 1? < 1361522453 639898 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {1}pd < 1361522453 878810 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1361522454 284541 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :integer? < 1361522456 615614 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {1.0}pd < 1361522456 814413 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0 < 1361522460 428172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I want it to suspend. < 1361522462 42366 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.103.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361522466 881989 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is {}pd now 1 or 1.0? < 1361522469 194606 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1361522476 199211 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just pick one and document it < 1361522520 738446 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally i'd say go with the integer because ha, ha, floats < 1361522528 933868 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about remove floats < 1361522541 835253 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about no ;) < 1361522553 6344 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are necessary. < 1361522561 948454 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't believe you in the slightest < 1361522575 483951 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a practical language that's likely to be used for high-speed computation, maybe. < 1361522579 776673 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 3 3.2pc < 1361522579 990214 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (pc) Invalid arguments! < 1361522588 533214 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 3.0 3.2pc < 1361522588 770928 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1361522592 359543 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a practical language, good topic < 1361522594 46494 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn you < 1361522595 50457 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1361522616 199820 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway you could just have arithmetic functions be polymorphic like everyone else does < 1361522629 631944 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are < 1361522631 772039 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1361522633 7058 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever you call randomly "upgrading" everything < 1361522634 163113 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about < 1361522644 81813 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is BLSQ only described in logs? < 1361522647 29212 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {4 5 6 7}{1}++!! < 1361522647 261952 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1361522658 859806 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {4 5 6 7}1.0!! < 1361522659 59130 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (!!) Invalid arguments! < 1361522662 290758 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realize i have no idea how this syntax works right < 1361522665 918407 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :list indices are not doubles < 1361522670 953881 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1361522682 5246 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :one might access an element in a list with (sum []) < 1361522682 601498 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want doubles just have doubles < 1361522688 448159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they represent a reasonable range of ints perfectly < 1361522689 886607 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [4,5,6,7]!!sum[] < 1361522691 689909 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1361522692 868426 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg 64 bit doubles give you 32 bit integer < 1361522693 404187 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1361522697 436867 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [4,5,6,7]!!1.0 < 1361522699 227965 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Real.Fractional GHC.Types.Int) < 1361522699 427058 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from the lit... < 1361522700 44185 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :however i dont see why you'd want doubles at all < 1361522720 505496 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's not statically typed, why not rationals? < 1361522730 570213 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that have to do with static typing < 1361522745 787978 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rationals might be... uh.. hmm, not sure what I was thinking < 1361522747 403264 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 3.0 3.2pc < 1361522747 639839 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.6472318897430834 < 1361522748 694857 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1361522757 845725 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know i'm pretty sure it's impossible to do math in a programming language in a reasonable fashion < 1361522758 83297 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't want to be able to use rationals to index things < 1361522759 152129 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- That's what doubles are needed for. < 1361522766 289968 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :How else would you do poisson distributions? < 1361522786 524960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is it possible to do a math in a reasonable fashion in general < 1361522787 971671 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You lose type safety if your only numeric type is rationals < 1361522802 442402 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: imo just have rational indices filled in by linear interpolation < 1361522817 473559 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: point < 1361522830 195392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1361522855 872103 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang that doesn't have arrays, just functions that can represent them < 1361522880 535343 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make an array 1,1,2,6,24,... and it becomes the gamma function < 1361522880 734251 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all functions are continuous? < 1361522882 909528 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :roll in the dosh < 1361522910 287401 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i guess we need complexes for completeness < 1361522926 368195 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make every function a "continuous" "matrix" < 1361522953 58863 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonus: function composition is now just matrix multiplication < 1361522988 343711 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike < 1361522989 736758 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you crazy < 1361522993 11965 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, put it on the wiki < 1361523023 969081 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't i have to make all the default matrices be []<>+-,. to satiate your lust for brainfucking first < 1361523041 844431 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"really, when you think about it, isn't < a linear operator" < 1361523061 397630 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no im "interested" in this separately < 1361523063 562432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make two languages < 1361523065 3824 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i order it < 1361523074 364263 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1361523484 78563 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: what is a reasonable fashon? < 1361523499 149742 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of doing numbers < 1361523525 671947 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't one, or else the much-cleverer-than-me people who design programming languages would have come up with one < 1361523555 272283 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this is a bad time for me to be thinking about how to get a holomorphic function out of a lattice/if that's even possible < 1361523578 973240 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a hilarious idea of linearly interpolating the results of non integer indices < 1361523593 796075 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet you there's a language that actually does that shit < 1361523604 755910 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what's your opinion on this ? < 1361523605 8892 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :c00kiemon5ter: feel free to write code simpler...) < 1361523614 462488 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :well said < 1361523698 492485 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ModularGroup-FundamentalDomain-01.png so high < 1361523861 832620 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of wacky arrays, one thing that has fascinated me is the progression from location addressable structures (lists and arrays) to key addressable structures (p-lists hash-tables objects) to content addressable structures that when you give them a value they give you back a canonical value. (coercing a number to be within certain bounds, finding the normal form of an expression, searching a string with a regular expression) < 1361523894 322939 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think a string regex search really constitutes an addressable structure < 1361523929 158913 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1361523999 545812 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, it just intuitively doesn't seem like it < 1361524006 874763 :carado_!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361524022 132511 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess if you have like, a string with information and... ok i see what you mean < 1361524078 114134 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if there is anything useful to this generalization. it's just a pattern I ran with < 1361524103 2990 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an addressable structure isn't really a "thing" mathematically < 1361524127 902461 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :each one can simulate a limited form of the next and simulate a slower version of the previous < 1361524148 803401 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a multidimensional array is just a tensor, or a function Int[x,y]^n -> whatever < 1361524159 646531 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard of a guy who didn't know about array so stored number as prime powers < 1361524178 775337 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gödelization is a bit different. < 1361524290 803077 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be fun to have arrays that only allowed you to refer to number sequences on the online encyclopedia of integer sequences < 1361524328 415824 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be enough for most mathematical purposes < 1361524359 684264 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hackage oeis < 1361524360 138919 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/oeis < 1361524389 804112 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a couple functions on arrays and enough clever slicing you could make any array out of those < 1361524434 94842 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also now i'm going to be unable to sleep because i'll be thinking about how to get a unique analytic out of an countably infinite number of points < 1361524434 858457 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it isn't enough you could submit it to be added < 1361524453 403302 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oeis 799817 order numbers at my kroger job < 1361524471 600845 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stick wool on the points and call them sheep < 1361524501 590342 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not actually possible, is the problem < 1361524528 409957 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that is simple. < 1361524549 130660 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it is possible if you're using gaussian integers instead but i doubt it < 1361524806 125107 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note that the result is not in the IO monad, even though the implementation requires looking up information via the Internet." < 1361524850 767162 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"from a practical point of view the function is referentially transparent" i love this library < 1361524945 640181 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> lookupSequence [1,2,5,14,42,132,429,1430,4862,16796] < 1361524948 128500 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just (OEIS {catalogNums = ["A000108","M1459","N0577"], sequenceData = [1,1,... < 1361524951 377952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, it's in there. < 1361524951 817574 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oeis is not a site that changes rapidly < 1361524956 321926 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1361524977 497360 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> lookupSequence [1,0,0,0] < 1361524981 68624 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1361524984 940920 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> extendSequence [1,2,5,14,42,132] < 1361524988 684519 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1361524997 761706 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1361524999 607570 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> extendSequence [1,2,5,14,42,132] < 1361525002 283726 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,5,14,42,132,429,1430,4862,16796,58786,208012,742900,2674440,9694845,35... < 1361525021 817736 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> extendSequence [1,1,1] < 1361525025 700889 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1361525034 160755 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> extendSequence [1,2,3,4,5] !! 20 < 1361525036 591642 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 21 < 1361525038 82203 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> extendSequence [1,1,1] < 1361525041 690815 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1361525043 468662 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry but 1 1 1 is a really complex patter < 1361525060 219561 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's basically my favorite oeis sequence < 1361525076 860540 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :closely followed by gnu but that's actually complicated < 1361525134 578244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are no side effects to speak of" is nicely put. < 1361525193 674158 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the behaviour depeends on the internet connection. < 1361525198 543301 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-e < 1361525293 679146 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the internet connection is down then the computer is practically worthless anyway < 1361525302 656315 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's no harm depending on it < 1361525323 638813 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. right. < 1361525495 299476 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also if OEIS is down, the computer is also practically worthless. < 1361525507 1194 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because what else would you do with a computer?) < 1361525507 200571 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1361525510 435148 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-152-179.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361525549 346497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, in many dialects the term "OEIS-looker-upper" is used in place of "computer". < 1361525620 19501 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the growth in home computers is directly tied to the growth of OEIS < 1361525860 582233 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: dead so dead < 1361526143 674890 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1361526174 396800 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without oeis how will school kids now how to count to ten? < 1361526179 978577 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :+k < 1361526258 679758 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,8 < 1361526259 291759 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the number n, replace all (decimal) digits '8' by '9' and vice versa. < 1361526259 490603 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,8,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,19,18,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,2... < 1361526264 79135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask bike are you dead < 1361526264 453817 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1361526303 492093 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,2,88 < 1361526318 544493 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `oeis' failed with: thread killed < 1361526332 192629 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the most important sequence of all < 1361526343 446832 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,7,9 < 1361526343 993343 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Table of n-almost-primes T(n,k) (n>=0, k>0), read by antidiagonals, starting... < 1361526344 192573 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,8,7,9,12,16,11,10,18,24,32,13,14,20,36,48,64,17,15,27,40,72,96,... < 1361526364 790964 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, I was hoping for a "replace all decimal digits '7' by '8' and vice versa." < 1361526387 8484 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,2,88 is the sequence of repdigits which form together with the amount of factors also a repdigit < 1361526406 303737 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is, 1 has 1 divisor, 2 has 2 divisors, 88 has 8 divisors) < 1361526442 531130 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-152-179.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1361526473 650118 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,2,3,5,4 < 1361526478 173766 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing 88 is the highest such number but I was too lazy to prove it yet < 1361526483 573893 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Decimal expansion of x<0 satisfying x^2+sin(x)=1. < 1361526483 773027 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,4,0,9,6,2,4,0,0,4,0,0,2,5,9,6,2,4,9,2,3,5,5,9,3,9,7,0,5,8,9,4,9,3,5,4,7,1... < 1361526811 375377 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an upper bound for divisors? < 1361526824 128026 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the obvious one. < 1361526898 129570 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :lower bound is probably more interesting. < 1361527226 72809 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, given a number n, how many divisors does n at least contain < 1361527270 721734 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1361527285 292123 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it might be a prime < 1361527310 116921 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a prime has two divisors < 1361527316 329468 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :at lesat to my definition < 1361527318 323712 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*least < 1361527331 237104 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah < 1361527333 165761 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that's only a constant difference < 1361527357 566142 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :upper bound/lower bound for |divisors(n)| is 2 if n is prime < 1361527363 616346 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that does not help at all < 1361527387 482408 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want the average number of divisors as x grows? < 1361527417 343870 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1361527447 310353 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want an estimate of number of divisors for n < 1361527450 237902 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a range < 1361527468 983354 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the exact number of divisors MUST be somewhere in the range < 1361527476 935107 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it MUST NOT be outside the range. < 1361527577 325799 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What empirical evidence suggests is that a repdigit of the form 8..8 always has 16 divisors if number of 8 > 2 < 1361527627 641545 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not real evidence < 1361527635 603879 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially because my computational power is weak :) < 1361527666 611788 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least 16 divisors < 1361527725 154572 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://terrytao.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/the-divisor-bound/ < 1361527747 494812 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it alsways seems to be a power of 2 < 1361527780 68849 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :4,8,16,16,16,128,16,64 < 1361527830 721652 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oies 4,8,16,16,16,128,16,64 < 1361527831 991505 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1361527838 837563 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 4,8,16,16,16,128,16,64 < 1361527839 158170 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1361527859 870665 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah well. < 1361527882 988717 :carado_!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 2,3,4,4,4,7,4,6 < 1361527898 376856 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `oeis' failed with: thread killed < 1361527900 644951 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next number is 48 < 1361527904 248482 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not a power of two < 1361527923 270283 :carado_!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bad < 1361528019 523919 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The conatural numbers. < 1361528041 610189 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People really seem to like the co- prefix < 1361528064 845239 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any way that "Conat"s are really "dual" to natural numbers? I mean, beyond being codata as opposed to data, I guess < 1361528121 403477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coroutines are dual to routines < 1361528124 926630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN SOME CATEGORY SOMEWHERE < 1361528131 640273 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a comathmatician is a device for turning cotheorems into ffee < 1361528222 644125 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote a comathmatician is a device for turning cotheorems into ffee < 1361528229 515727 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :966) a comathmatician is a device for turning cotheorems into ffee < 1361528267 198821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo................ < 1361528308 518223 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that joke's been made before < 1361528323 736199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a couple of times maybe < 1361528345 677441 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1361528398 762917 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq '1'9r@{Sh8cb[-unps}\m>< < 1361528398 998339 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1361528405 445807 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah well. < 1361528412 899450 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 microseconds is a tight timeout :) < 1361528445 530338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tightout < 1361528558 596011 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 2,4,4,6,4,8,4,8,6 < 1361528568 5777 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Number of cyclic subgroups of the group C_n X C_2 (where C_n is the cyclic g... < 1361528568 206115 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,4,4,6,4,8,4,8,6,8,4,12,4,8,8,10,4,12,4,12,8,8,4,16,6,8,8,12,4,16,4,12,8,8... < 1361528585 253562 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 2,4,4,6,4,8,4,8,6,12,8,12,8 < 1361528589 343652 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1361528718 473449 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah well. < 1361528722 247914 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's run it to 20 < 1361528729 150240 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably run for 2hours or so :) < 1361528780 148538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 2047,65535,2097151 < 1361528781 883156 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found. < 1361528789 873457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 2048,65536,2097152 < 1361528791 968752 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2^(5*n+1). < 1361528792 167956 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,64,2048,65536,2097152,67108864,2147483648,68719476736,2199023255552,70368... < 1361528796 481300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph. < 1361529061 808371 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mathoverflow.net/questions/1083/do-good-math-jokes-exist/2254#2254 < 1361529142 870474 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh btw. I'm now in possesion of 'to mock a mockingbird' < 1361529274 178463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to mock a mockingbird-mocking mockingbird) -> (to mock a mockingbird) < 1361529279 820153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :| | < 1361529305 170332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mockingbird-mocking mockingbird) -> (mockingbird) < 1361529309 289922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1361529336 411656 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a pretty good book < 1361529544 905490 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didnt enjoy it < 1361529596 275719 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@91.234.37.56 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361529616 543654 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted more cool devices made out of combinators < 1361529786 631323 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you should check out this totally rad thing : http://esolangs.org/wiki/Lazy_Bird < 1361529837 842170 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-152-179.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361529848 808981 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :youre right I do < 1361529860 18167 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like this totally rad thing < 1361529881 306690 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. neat. < 1361530343 444631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1361530386 469672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello oerjan < 1361530419 71619 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1361530461 47802 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@79.220.207.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361530528 437844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you oerjan > 1361553895 926712 JOIN :#esoteric > 1361553902 54333 JOIN :#esoteric > 1361553906 178587 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361553906 356331 :glogbot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric > 1361553906 687240 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361553907 238052 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric < 1361553908 880088 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1361553966 225774 :Gregor!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1361553989 593157 :Gregor!codu@codu.org NICK :Guest20222 < 1361554110 44605 :Guest20222!codu@codu.org NICK :Gregor < 1361554133 980 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1361554139 570711 :Gregor!codu@codu.org NICK :Guest28688 < 1361554175 96768 :Guest28688!codu@codu.org NICK :Gregor < 1361554484 205401 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1361554776 697918 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you guys know what a tracker (music software) is? < 1361554797 568939 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking haskell might be a good language to write one in < 1361554818 984733 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if anyone's ever written one before in haskell < 1361554865 620342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do know < 1361554919 60697 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think Haskell would be a particularly good or bad langauge for writing one < 1361554934 729760 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're often written in C or ASM < 1361554947 355346 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :User interfaces in Haskell, ugh < 1361554951 901217 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacky much? < 1361554955 556592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is a fine language and you can write many codes in Haskell. However, if you want to use a different language, that is OK as well. < 1361554960 758253 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess as long as the language isn't too bad and you've got good graphics/text manipulation libraries it doesn't really matter < 1361554964 53264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: shrug < 1361554971 689144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtk2hs is fine < 1361554986 614697 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would write it so that you can plug interfaces on < 1361554992 670661 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the first interface would be a textmode one < 1361555032 60610 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was at first going to write it in C, before I knew any haskell, but now I'm not sure < 1361555051 674405 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about audio < 1361555052 48269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is a bad language for applications programming < 1361555052 322219 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :C seems less cumbersome for people to compile and stuff < 1361555058 697803 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that impression or quote < 1361555071 723619 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes if you use any language other than C, or use any libraries with C other than libc, users will hate you < 1361555080 522799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's expected that each C project will implement all data structures from scratch < 1361555087 505618 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Probably would use some library for audio output or write my own library < 1361555093 46996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this i think actually explains much of the popularity of hash tables < 1361555105 882531 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361555108 914553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are tree-shaped structures which are comparably nice < 1361555113 815216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they are harder to reimplement from scratch < 1361555114 186152 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You could always include the libraries with the project < 1361555117 260240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and C doesn't do code reuse < 1361555121 987777 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which some projects do < 1361555123 379007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: then distros yell at you < 1361555129 237328 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1361555140 806995 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361555177 980274 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :C doesn't have any functional niceties either < 1361555182 127836 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best you get is function pointers < 1361555188 827231 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: impression < 1361555221 514820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course C programmers turn reimplementing all datastructures into a virtue < 1361555230 199497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's how you show that you're H4RDC0RE < 1361555244 669161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course everyone else's datastructures are shit < 1361555303 595796 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have fun debugging where your code involving dealing with multiple layers of pointers went wrong < 1361555369 903343 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-242.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it doesn't take much C to implement a purely functional language:) < 1361555412 818126 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1361555582 585165 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Les Misérables: Hugh Jackman delivers a star turn as Lester Misérables, the fanciest barber in Paris” < 1361555968 672903 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell can do output!? < 1361555973 590033 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How impure of it < 1361556001 184559 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1361556014 638959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost like Haskell is a programming language and not some kind of mathematical rhetorical arguing device < 1361556224 848668 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonsense. < 1361556464 452327 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-242.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell can prescribe output to be performed by the runtime system < 1361556563 9245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell: a pretty cool guy? < 1361556696 345903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the execution semantics of IO actions are just as much part of the language standard "Haskell" as the evaluation semantics of lambdas and pattern matching < 1361556750 187188 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1361556765 896335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are separated in a principled way rather than muddled together like every other language < 1361556774 74624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people should stop trying to disown the former < 1361556779 374073 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause imperative programming in Haskell is nice < 1361556803 20970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this meme that Haskell is all about uncompromising purity is really dumb < 1361556853 962452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1361556861 516537 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think any big language is about purity < 1361556875 32501 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :The really pure ones are always either academic or esoteric < 1361556925 754303 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are probably some pure DSLs. < 1361556936 25495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pure" is just a term that generates more heat than light < 1361556938 92671 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :DSL? < 1361556948 383309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell function evaluation is free of side effects, but it has another thing that does effects < 1361556951 818842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mean it's pure? who cares < 1361556969 685855 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: Domain-Specific Language. < 1361556975 224773 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :people using unsafePerformIO certainly not . < 1361556998 802485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah there's that too < 1361557008 66033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people break the "purity" rules all the time to get shit done < 1361557049 672715 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :understandable < 1361557050 335249 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet those guys care about purity : http://radified.com/gfx6/sicp_cover2.jpg < 1361557050 660476 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fine < 1361557054 178348 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good programming language < 1361557058 845026 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is not pure, the magic doesn't work < 1361557061 391048 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you do stuff without IO Monad < 1361557072 451965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a fucking mathematical object from the platonic realm < 1361557073 909765 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then suddently you need some state in a function < 1361557076 527952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1361557077 507102 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or read a file or whatever < 1361557078 353869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :end-of-rant < 1361557096 33749 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :either you rewrite the hole thing or saÿ "fuck it, i'll try unsef" < 1361557097 151257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am so easy to troll < 1361557101 829672 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1361557122 451497 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://books.gentoomen.org/wizard.jpg < 1361557123 377239 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahah < 1361557254 853810 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/35250381.jpg <- like that < 1361557258 609382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gentoo men... < 1361557271 333210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: yes < 1361558353 213920 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Why are you writing such a huge function < 1361558567 915245 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: You gonna have to supply me more context < 1361558672 516695 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://joaopizani.hopto.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/recursive_cats.gif < 1361558744 111668 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit pointful though ... fix (cat:)? < 1361558757 963837 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: If you were writing smaller functions, adding state or whatever wouldn't be difficult < 1361558789 110033 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like hell it would < 1361558837 383681 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give me a concrete example of what sort of code you'd write < 1361558839 378657 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have function a which calls b which calls c which calls d which calls e which calls f < 1361558848 154658 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and f is not Int but IO Int now. < 1361558868 649531 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means a,b,c,d,e, all land in IO too < 1361558871 83314 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give me a concrete code example < 1361558894 663003 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :every function calling an IO function has to be in IO too < 1361558914 965815 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need a concrete example for that. < 1361558938 671164 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do debugging without any monads, if that's what you're embedding IO in for < 1361558953 400347 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm awary of Debug.Trace < 1361558957 838154 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*aware < 1361558958 818341 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1361558963 269878 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want example of code where that would need embedding a monad suddenly so deep in < 1361558967 278512 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debug.Trace uses unsafePerformIO actually ;) < 1361558974 385622 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say the problem is that you're trying to add side-effects to something five levels deep in the first place, not that it's painful to do so < 1361558984 642628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no such thing as an "IO function" < 1361559000 328598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pure function that returns an IO action < 1361559014 324313 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361559014 943086 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: That's the problem yeah. < 1361559028 412933 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still, it would be trivial in most imperative languages < 1361559039 414742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "IO function" analogy is pretty bad and breaks down for a lot of things, like IO Int -> Int, IO (Int -> Int), or IO (IO Int) < 1361559058 323979 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it would be trivial, and it could very easily lead to buggy code that messes around with state without one of the programmers knowing < 1361559070 546201 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then it's a pain to understand and fix if it breaks < 1361559095 432818 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/FMNSSun/Burlesque/blob/master/Burlesque/Eval.hs < 1361559098 535523 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- concrete example < 1361559100 507877 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice thing about imperative state in Haskell is that, even if code is an IO action, it can't manipulate any IORef unless it was passed that ref < 1361559110 208708 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say I want to add a builtin that reads a file < 1361559119 912498 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I would like to add some registers instead of just passing a stack < 1361559123 796491 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You can't have an IO Int -> Int without unsafePerformIO or something equivalent to const value, right? < 1361559136 907558 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't want to do that, but I if would do it < 1361559141 462161 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's going to be a nightmare to do so) < 1361559163 514985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: well you can imagine other primitives that are neither of those < 1361559169 347382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "count the number of (>>=)s in this IO action" < 1361559183 551868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is, the IO action is a data structure that can be manipulated without performing IO < 1361559184 702751 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that the code for map/filter so much depend on only passing a stack < 1361559190 715954 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not really haskell's fault < 1361559201 230513 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my fault not to write code I can hack I/O in later. < 1361559203 368219 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see IO (IO Int), m (m a) isn't that uncommon < 1361559207 701137 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or other state < 1361559221 469338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IO actions returning functions are also very useful < 1361559251 461735 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: mapM or mapM_ might be useful to you if you're mapping over a list of monadic values < 1361559301 513471 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That code looks a bit big < 1361559325 176718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my 'spawn' library has pool :: Int -> IO (IO a -> IO a) < 1361559327 290619 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up BlsqState
< 1361559342 556970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Given n, produces a function to wrap IO actions. No more than n wrapped actions will be in progress at one time." < 1361559369 225508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in many languages you would explicitly return a data structure representing a semaphore or something < 1361559380 75707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in Haskell it's natural to close over all those implementation details < 1361559382 841437 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@15-185.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1361559390 266497 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@91.234.37.56 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1361559425 635303 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I think you might be able to change BlsqState's definition to use StateT IO and not have stuff break, not sure though < 1361559431 969357 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Do you think that'd work? < 1361559444 509615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would? < 1361559516 402891 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Changing BlsqState from State BlsqStack () to StateT BlsqStack IO () < 1361559532 518668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1361559535 288334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not having looked at the code < 1361559698 12179 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Junk snack food (chips/crisps) doesn't actually taste good. It's only 'enjoyable' (and I use that word with skepticism) because consumerism has force-fed you it for so long, developing your 'taste' for it through advertising and social pressure." < 1361559721 178364 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is quite skeptical about that claim
< 1361559750 741667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :taste is subjective < 1361559764 556389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes health nuts convince themselves that junk food tastes bad < 1361559765 748012 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: have you tried eating with a tin foil hat on? it really does change the experience < 1361559808 820458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would say that the junk food companies do develop the product through advertising and social pressure but also through extremely careful engineering to make it tasty as hell < 1361559809 266845 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Potato chips are salty, and salt tends to taste good, which used to make good sense for our bodies. < 1361559832 182771 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I like the flavouring too, salted potatoes on their own are quite dull < 1361559832 943726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a NYT article about this recently but I am too lazy to read it or find the link < 1361559838 288500 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheese and onion is good < 1361559875 218102 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should eat something, I felt really weird and horrible waking up and don't know if I'm sick or if I just really haven't been eating enough < 1361559884 958474 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm scared < 1361559889 49332 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well look at it this way < 1361559893 714801 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also amusing when people tell you that junk food is horrible, but the same amount of fat/salt/whatever is wonderful as long as it's all expensive local organic ingredients < 1361559897 742883 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're sick, not eating isn't going to do you any good < 1361559913 832393 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc i have to ask < 1361559942 863196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: weird / horrible in what way? < 1361559952 19890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how much have you been eating? < 1361559953 634487 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lightheaded? < 1361559978 525326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you have to ask Phantom__Hoover < 1361559983 212193 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget < 1361560015 399650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1361560017 25572 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was something to do with the way you're always complaining about other people's opinons < 1361560022 644052 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*opinions < 1361560031 343322 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the opinon, the fundamental particle of opinions) < 1361560035 680475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey sgeo started it < 1361560122 152219 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(opinions are charged opinons) < 1361560145 82286 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :[up an ion] < 1361560184 88640 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere in the world, there ought be someone who mispronounces opinion like that < 1361560201 660647 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, I didn't eat the entire box of pasta last night, and don't think I had breakfast yesterday < 1361560216 926309 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you meant kmc there < 1361560223 460022 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not eating the entire box of paste is normal < 1361560241 417035 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like i said, if you're not feeling well eating more is a sensible thing to do < 1361560358 657822 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I woke up feeling like I was trying to vomit but couldn't. Was difficult to catch my breath. Stomach felt hungry too < 1361560382 909227 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"stomach felt hungry" usually means you should eat < 1361560433 643561 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get the sense that Sgeo is basically trying to ignore every basic bodily instinct < 1361560451 718033 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm eating. < 1361560497 968642 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: maybe it's one of these things where an alien assumes human form and has trouble figuring out how the body works < 1361560519 580161 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does explain many things about Sgeo < 1361560543 765053 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe his dad made him go to farmingdale because if he went to a good university he'd be noticed and dissected?! < 1361560555 747481 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING < 1361560570 296259 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, q. is your skin naturally green < 1361560584 292846 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the whole of farmingdale is populated by aliens disguised as farmers < 1361560597 176479 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, my skin does reflect green light. < 1361560608 318310 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's why the name's so stupid! < 1361560610 290902 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It reflects other light, but green light too. < 1361560639 70151 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the aliens were like "pick the two farmingest words in the earthlings' tongue!" < 1361560771 497092 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one will believe a place called "farmingdale" actually exists < 1361560771 710854 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1361560774 638007 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1361560784 363505 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: imo yes < 1361560796 324530 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the msg????? < 1361560806 221863 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"are you dead" < 1361560849 26461 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :some sort of accidental genius there ... normal people would go to farmingdale, find it full of farmers, and then leave ASAP < 1361560853 855698 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_libgu78N3U1qdep4ro1_500.png < 1361560886 825111 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1361560892 976455 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1361560897 247272 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner < 1361560898 772361 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't < 1361560899 765472 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking < 1361560900 764873 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit < 1361560905 125510 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: sure it is < 1361560929 181360 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should've known your swedishness would shine through eventually < 1361560938 32405 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for so long i thought you'd been abducted at birth < 1361561171 579250 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I risk going back to sleep? < 1361561201 831586 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well like < 1361561213 711647 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're that ill you should probably actually get medical attention < 1361561230 797474 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than asking for it in a channel full of computer scientists < 1361561335 296995 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you know anything about sleep? < 1361561335 773924 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i dont know what that " code; 00000000 before first symbol" means, surely 0 is before any of the fnord < 1361561349 46304 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he only knows about computer sleep < 1361561474 814572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: are you worried that you will die < 1361561510 202035 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really, although it does make me worried that the sensation was unfamiliar < 1361561547 270786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the risk of sleeping? < 1361561603 856460 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The risk of having to feel that sensation again when I wake up? < 1361561628 566292 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1361561659 735454 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1361561881 196475 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361561989 205754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361561996 938819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you feel bad specifically on waking and not in general? < 1361562037 858750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what should Sgeo do < 1361562038 398197 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: don't quit your day job"). this is a little stranger, because it just copies between on gc. < 1361562353 132759 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, still feel a little bad, but not as terrible as I did when I woke up < 1361562433 206045 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you actually eat a reasonable amount of food < 1361562498 579370 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does 2 pop-tarts count as a reasonable amount? < 1361562514 240384 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, sgeo < 1361562514 416365 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you fast for too long it'll take a while for the stomach to get used to food again < 1361562526 183485 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pop-tart" and "reasonable" do not belong in the same sentence. < 1361562533 46333 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i defer to olsner's expertise on not eating < 1361562570 101225 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: those pop-tarts will be gone quite soon and you will become hungry again (at this time, eat) < 1361562573 829760 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't fasting at any point. < 1361562590 418053 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just... not eating enough, perhaps < 1361562648 352839 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe all those calls from mom asking whether I'm eating properly weren't quite as pointless as I thought < 1361562679 574314 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been eating twigs and clay for three weeks! < 1361562681 537012 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have two more pop-tarts soon < 1361562717 710159 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't live on pop-tarts < 1361562730 277335 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man cannot live by pop-tarts alone < 1361562762 50410 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can have pasta and cheese for dinner like always < 1361562778 33606 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you eat any protein whatsoever? < 1361562778 973335 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like < 1361562782 876106 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what Gregor said < 1361562818 918218 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't cheese have some protein? < 1361562833 20893 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I do sometimes eat chicken sandwiches, though not as frequently as when I was in college < 1361562854 331629 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Life is made of protein, everything that's food has SOME protein, that's not really the same as eating a chickpea salad though. < 1361562877 104807 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean life is mostly phospholipids and water < 1361562888 388193 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: cheese has some protein, but most likely not enough to live on if you just have a little bit of cheese on pasta < 1361562912 323536 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should get Chinese food tonight? < 1361562938 389452 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: chinese food is always a good idea. < 1361562951 408264 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so glad that Sgeo exists to make me feel like I'm good at life management by comparison. < 1361562987 716400 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am thinking the exact same thing < 1361563679 854379 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361563755 601056 :pingveno!adevore@rita.cat.pdx.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor! < 1361563805 12646 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm feeling a bit guilty about wasting my life management skills by not cooking actual food as often as I could, though < 1361563988 773568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1361564100 613878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1361564101 113660 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman said 5h 33m 21s ago: I got it down to 19B : ,1 9r@{8cb[-}\m> [gcd ((10^n-1)`div`9) 81 | n <- [1..]] < 1361565375 608358 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,3,1,1,3,1,1,9,1,1,3,1,1,3,1,1,9,1,1,3,1,1,3,1,1,27,1,1,3,1,1,3,1,1,9,1... < 1361565445 283195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> gcd 111111111111111111111111111 81 < 1361565447 120093 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 27 < 1361565544 499198 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361565549 57005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman also it alsways seems to be a power of 2 <-- it fails with 9 8's hth :P (this is because that has factor 27 but not 81) < 1361565549 490387 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1361565571 182105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman er *9 but not 27 < 1361565571 607550 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1361565631 877601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> gcd 111111111 81 < 1361565633 537303 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9 < 1361565969 363277 :md_5!md_5@mcdevs/trusted/md-5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1361566161 377778 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYQB < 1361566161 882088 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 222000Z 07007KT 20SM BKN021 BKN120 M03/M06 A3040 RMK SC5AC0 SLP299 < 1361566270 402422 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: CYQB < 1361566270 982055 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: mainly because it supports both left- and right- recursion. the first variable with a state not completely linked bug? how lame. < 1361566283 549986 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot > metar < 1361566283 828085 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i beat you :-p thanks for the hint then < 1361566323 76043 :md_5!md_5@mcdevs/trusted/md-5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361566384 437954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote it's almost like Haskell is a programming language and not some kind of mathematical rhetorical arguing device < 1361566394 451887 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :967) it's almost like Haskell is a programming language and not some kind of mathematical rhetorical arguing device < 1361566473 841952 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361566483 677090 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dad might be bringing me some protein-y foods tonight < 1361566489 862550 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hamburger or chicken < 1361566494 797602 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly Chinese food < 1361566495 563046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beef jerky < 1361566499 90218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tofu! < 1361566502 700762 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most foods are protein-y < 1361566506 402766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's proteiny right < 1361566516 775865 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :All life forms are made of proteins < 1361566524 843544 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, we already had this discussion < 1361566530 929158 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did we? < 1361566567 593960 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, some foods might have more protein per ... something? < 1361566587 38370 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :per food < 1361566590 751607 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :per bite < 1361566595 455596 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361566607 390316 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some foods are like < 1361566612 621682 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT MADE OF LIFEFORMS :o < 1361566624 690941 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :salt is not food. < 1361566649 118271 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what of pepper < 1361566658 556950 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pepper comes from a plant! < 1361566668 488671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if the co-op market will sell me organic salt < 1361566673 839996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MSG is like organic salt :D < 1361566680 268995 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some foods are made from lifeform-based products, but are not made of them < 1361566682 209877 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like < 1361566683 317449 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Candy < 1361566694 943094 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :salt + carbon? < 1361566707 2289 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(re. organic salt0 < 1361566707 830964 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1361566714 66545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ate a huge greasy chinese food meal and now i feel gross, it must be the MSG and not the fact that I ate a huge greasy meal < 1361566723 14737 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1361566727 815128 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one wasn't even prompted < 1361566732 46045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1361566736 139953 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, msg is slightly less worse for your health than salt. < 1361566753 784787 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the whole MSG scare was from some study about like < 1361566764 120770 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inhumane doses of MSG in rats or something like that < 1361566773 665847 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing actually scary < 1361566774 705414 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only when your daily intake is larger than 5 grams that you get nasty symptoms, like: headaches, dehydration, stiff neck, bat hallucinations... < 1361566805 242957 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can't stop here! < 1361566851 170940 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361566873 388365 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-52.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1361566910 235169 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 QUIT :Client Quit < 1361566946 551107 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bat hallucinations? < 1361566948 234658 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361567020 162361 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: not "hallucinations", but "hallucinations...". the ellipsis is important. < 1361567081 674837 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: I think there was also a bunch of people claiming to get sick from MSG in chinese restaurants < 1361567101 695915 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it was bad cat meat < 1361567150 611720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1361567278 2261 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a vicious cycle of msg overabundance, where insubstantial bats were eaten by cats you were about to eat. < 1361567333 639414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i vaguely recall some of those getting busted when they were given some other kind of food that actually had more MSG < 1361567338 411848 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean like < 1361567340 158144 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Batcat < 1361567341 64924 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-166-9.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://uploads.ungrounded.net/579000/579288_batcat.swf < 1361567378 594143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, triangle and robert. < 1361567408 751856 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: bats and bad cats and triangles and roberts. < 1361567409 308950 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: they're usually padded too, i think. :( i'd really not fancy restarting it. i got paid for all sorts of undefined things like that < 1361567441 98313 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, afaik it was never confirmed that there was anything at all there except people getting paranoid and imagining stuff < 1361567525 931806 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I did with temporal logic before is wrong but now I should do it better way. type family Next (x :: *) :: *; data Globally x = Globally x (Globally (Next x)); data Future x = Now x | Later (Future (Next x)); I think this is better? < 1361567593 561732 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes. < 1361567593 773960 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: You have 5 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1361567595 325618 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@formatting < 1361567595 501584 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1361567598 110158 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1361567598 286270 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 52m 28s ago: Um that looks like mine with 8 instead of 4 and an extra p^ at the end, how is that shorter? < 1361567598 286458 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 51m 14s ago: or do you mean the actual anagolf versions were slightly different (longer and with final formatting)? < 1361567598 286569 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 40m 5s ago: an 8...8 repdigit always has 4 times the number of divisors of the corresponding 1...1 repdigit. similar rules for 2...2, 4...4 and 5...5 since their digit can have no common < 1361567598 286713 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :prime factor with 1...1. < 1361567598 286819 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 34m 9s ago: also it alsways seems to be a power of 2 <-- it fails with 9 8's hth :P (this is because that has factor 27 but not 81) < 1361567600 55682 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 33m 47s ago: er *9 but not 27 < 1361567616 903066 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :p^ pushes all elements of a list to the stack < 1361567627 318667 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the interpreter prints remaining elements linewise < 1361567641 287130 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the anagol version requires up to 8 digits, yes < 1361567653 844103 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 8 digits timed out on blsqbot < 1361567659 533642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1361567705 697981 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1361567707 377910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: btw when the prime factorization of a number is p_1^k_1*p_2^k_2*...*p_n^k_n, the number of divisors is sum k_i + n < 1361567725 771777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1361567750 483150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*product_{i=1}^n (k_i + 1) < 1361567752 846081 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361567762 542444 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361567793 513819 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :euler phi function? < 1361567814 851022 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no. < 1361567837 371068 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the amount of non divisors < 1361567843 319648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that is a different product. they are both multiplicative functions, meaning you can split them by prime factors < 1361567890 471178 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't n - phi(n) the number of divisors then? < 1361567900 814369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1361567906 680509 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1361567912 991267 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-67-248-121-45.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1361567915 415323 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I've mixed something up < 1361567942 482991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the number of non-coprime numbers, but e.g. 8 is not coprime to 12 but still isn't a divisor < 1361567966 473231 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I saw X-Men 2 < 1361567976 163700 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-67-248-121-45.nycap.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I happened to see <= put into an xml string, which is <=, and I was like, what if that were a legit way of "or"ing boolean operators < 1361567982 765985 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a room where both Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan have been in at the same time < 1361567988 717824 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as eachother, not with me) < 1361568018 265702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as _eachother_? sounds freaky. < 1361568059 923270 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 111fcL[ < 1361568078 261832 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :who killed my bot? < 1361568083 659979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not me < 1361568089 25777 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361568094 114818 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :my machine went to sleep < 1361568111 841486 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1361568120 337890 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 111fcL[ < 1361568120 609650 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1361568120 785453 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.145171s < 1361568124 840407 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1111fcL[ < 1361568125 57338 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1361568125 233380 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.127619s < 1361568128 812773 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 11111fcL[ < 1361568129 25528 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1361568129 201354 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.121971s < 1361568133 218377 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 111111fcL[ < 1361568133 439541 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361568133 615473 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.130191s < 1361568153 409214 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 11111fc < 1361568153 628750 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {11111 271 41 1} < 1361568153 804745 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.129492s < 1361568161 848873 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1111fc < 1361568162 57736 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1111 101 11 1} < 1361568162 233460 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.119117s < 1361568179 377644 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1111fC < 1361568179 573562 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {11 101} < 1361568179 749467 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.109501s < 1361568299 565952 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 111111111fC < 1361568299 786815 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {3 3 37 333667} < 1361568299 962724 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.130418s < 1361568329 823424 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably should have invested more time into factors :) < 1361568332 941723 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's horribly slow. < 1361568348 942001 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 111111111fc < 1361568349 179761 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361568349 355351 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.148128s < 1361568418 997983 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 3fc < 1361568419 218321 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {3 1} < 1361568419 394105 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.130434s < 1361568425 229141 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 4fc < 1361568425 435975 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {4 2 1} < 1361568425 611796 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.11808s < 1361568431 453469 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 4fcpd < 1361568431 667941 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8 < 1361568431 843841 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.1266s < 1361568435 545608 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 8fcpd < 1361568435 896774 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 64 < 1361568436 72567 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.125477s < 1361568441 662159 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 64fcpd < 1361568441 877776 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2097152 < 1361568442 53612 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.127684s < 1361568451 700220 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2097152fcpd < 1361568451 904009 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1361568452 79856 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.113719s < 1361568452 443161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: i find it weird that the printing times are nearly the same regardless of whether it times out or not. < 1361568470 747257 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1361568477 674188 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are pretty useless < 1361568498 624755 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The actual program is allowed to run 100 microsecond < 1361568520 601114 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the time shown is start interpreter + run time < 1361568525 603728 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsqbot please do quit < 1361568525 906649 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch QUIT :Quit: Exiting < 1361568883 841056 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1361568910 878434 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1337?s < 1361568911 407844 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 36.565010597564445 < 1361568921 182469 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq pi < 1361568923 437067 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.141592653589793 < 1361568943 383693 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq eepi?* < 1361568943 603597 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8.539734222673566 < 1361569011 63782 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {{1 0}{0 1}}{{1 0}{1 0}}mm < 1361569011 277511 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{1 0} {1 0}} < 1361569020 374900 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {{1 0}{0 1}}{{1 0}{1 0}}mmSP < 1361569020 591515 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "1 0\n1 0" < 1361569102 385799 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {{-5 6}{6 -5}}1 11.0?/?/ < 1361569102 839399 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{-55.0 66.0} {66.0 -55.0}} < 1361569111 716860 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {{-5 6}{6 -5}}1 11.0?/?* < 1361569111 926298 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{-0.4545454545454546 0.5454545454545454} {0.5454545454545454 -0.454545454545454 < 1361569122 594575 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {{-5 6}{6 -5}}1 11.0?/?*{{5 6}{6 5}}mm < 1361569122 815867 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{0.9999999999999996 -4.440892098500626e-16} {-4.440892098500626e-16 0.999999999 < 1361569135 542878 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn you limited precision! < 1361569178 456668 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsqbot please do quit < 1361569178 669877 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch QUIT :Quit: Exiting < 1361569185 733720 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme fix that stupid scientific notation < 1361569193 262966 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cosh 6 ^ 2 - sinh 6 ^ 2 < 1361569195 157303 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.000000000007276 < 1361569206 146263 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cosh 2 ^ 2 - sinh 2 ^ 2 < 1361569208 192121 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.9999999999999982 < 1361569264 540956 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cosh 3.14 ^ 2 - sinh 3.14 ^ 2 < 1361569266 44001 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0000000000000284 < 1361569282 626215 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cosh 3.1415926535 ^ 2 - sinh 3.1415926535 ^ 2 < 1361569284 122409 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0 < 1361569327 333388 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Their last Tory MP, Stephen Milligan, died from auto-asphyxiation while wearing stockings and suspenders in 1994." < 1361569331 933660 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun place to be < 1361569346 370003 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, cosh^2 a - sinh^2 a == 1 < 1361569349 463554 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the English ordinal form of fractions? < 1361569374 378218 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: as is cos^2 a + sin^2 a. < 1361569381 242335 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, boily. < 1361569385 806814 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 1 < 1361569409 509445 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: 4/5 -> the four-fifths-th < 1361569460 524065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I used that < 1361569463 17860 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ordinals of an integer divided by 12: twelfthsths? < 1361569504 740073 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb we were always told to make absolutely sure that our auto erotic asphyxiation apparatus released the pressure if you went unconscious < 1361569512 549593 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1361569520 470236 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork, this was 1994 < 1361569554 978457 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was using an orange < 1361569590 120364 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't he just, you know, bite into it? < 1361569647 285336 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: la réponse à cette question, dans le prochain épisode! < 1361569653 987597 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361569654 840914 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1361569661 500863 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {{-5 6}{6 -5}}1 11.0?/?*{{5 6}{6 5}}mm < 1361569661 743669 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{0.9999999999999996 -4.440892098500626e-16} {-4.440892098500626e-16 0.999999999 < 1361569683 17702 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {{-5 6}{6 -5}}1 11.0?/?*{{5 6}{6 5}}3r_ < 1361569683 235899 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{ERROR: Burlesque: (r_) Invalid arguments! 3 5 ERROR: Burlesque: (r_) Invalid a < 1361569692 10988 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad. < 1361569704 191775 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {{-5 6}{6 -5}}1 11.0?/?*{{5 6}{6 5}}mm3r_ < 1361569704 691891 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{1.0 0.0} {0.0 1.0}} < 1361569713 923225 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsqbot please do quit < 1361569714 98804 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch QUIT :Client Quit < 1361569825 840939 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1361569831 285878 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {{-5 6}{6 -5}}1 11.0?/?*{{5 6}{6 5}}mm < 1361569831 637890 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {{0.9999999999999996 -0.0000000000000004440892098500626} {-0.0000000000000004440 < 1361569831 813642 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsqbot please do quit < 1361569831 989574 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@180-157.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch QUIT :Client Quit < 1361569848 185249 :yhojeyisaac!~canaima@190.73.203.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361569862 701517 :yhojeyisaac!~canaima@190.73.203.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO < 1361569866 729075 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1361569869 349815 :yhojeyisaac!~canaima@190.73.203.233 PART :#esoteric < 1361569872 807846 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1361569873 186537 :yhojeyisaac!~canaima@190.73.203.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361569883 282517 :yhojeyisaac!~canaima@190.73.203.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO < 1361569908 151894 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO < 1361569931 560371 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome yhojeyisaac < 1361569934 222430 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :yhojeyisaac: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1361569934 222655 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :He only comes back when you say please come back < 1361569935 712514 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME yhojeyisaac < 1361569937 980218 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :YHOJEYISAAC: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE. (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON IRC.DAL.NET.) < 1361569974 529085 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is an amusing variation on the welcome command < 1361570026 400760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wiki does not accept the uppercase URL though < 1361570040 812555 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wElCOme muh < 1361570042 270383 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wElCOme: not found < 1361570065 599681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome yhojeyisaac < 1361570068 823374 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​6yho12jeyisaac: 2Welcome to the i14nternation3al hub for 5esote211ri11c programming2 language desi2gn 3and 6deployme7nt! For more13 informatio3n8143, ch8eck ou3t our wiki: htt7p://6esol13angs.org/wiki/Main_Pag7e. (For the ot6her kind of eso6te2rica, try 11#eso9te7710ric o5n ir3c4.dal.n14et.) < 1361570069 940365 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, fix it plz < 1361570070 308306 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PART :#esoteric < 1361570216 252412 :yhojeyisaac!~canaima@190.73.203.233 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1361570229 707699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK just lost its AAA Moody's bond rating < 1361570232 940526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to the club, UK < 1361570234 296966 :yhojeyisaac!~canaima@190.73.203.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361570316 804555 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEER in German is actually Bier. < 1361570393 737465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1361570393 950736 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just 'J' < 1361570420 15808 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1361570451 271009 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1361570451 446898 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\" < 1361570472 545281 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1361570472 904413 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\" < 1361570485 144525 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :funktion multipliziärDäScheiss(schtring a, schtring b) { intetschär ai = alsIntetschär(a); intetschär bi = alsIntetschär(b); retörn ai mol bi; } < 1361570557 713185 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zahlen < 1361570559 15330 :yhojeyisaac!~canaima@190.73.203.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SV6TRRXZD524R3 < 1361570563 228433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1361570563 404410 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"" < 1361570563 404590 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit, now i want to see schönhage-strassen's algorithm written out in german < 1361570588 968194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stönehenge-Strassen < 1361570802 712427 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1361571031 155001 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361571190 257048 :Zerker!~zerker@cpe-24-24-168-181.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1361571196 632220 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@46.115.68.39 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361571320 374729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: that translates as multiplyDatShit, right? < 1361571402 958191 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361571776 344639 :Zerker!~zerker@cpe-24-24-168-181.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPad - Timeout (10 minutes) < 1361571961 105403 :reerfq!~reer.fq-@aig238.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1361572153 587951 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@46.115.68.39 QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0/20130215130331] < 1361572441 674351 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-12-44.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1361573026 896418 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1361573723 952620 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361573925 731333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let qualified = 1 in qualified < 1361573927 513663 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1361574104 160915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (as,hiding) = (1,2) in (as,hiding) < 1361574106 107829 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (1,2) < 1361574617 791660 :reerfq!~reer.fq-@aig238.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1361574794 324122 :yhojeyisaac!~canaima@190.73.203.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO < 1361574805 248260 :yhojeyisaac!~canaima@190.73.203.233 PART :#esoteric < 1361574851 893262 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1361574855 456417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder why he keeps coming back when it's pretty clear no one here speaks spanish < 1361575373 444788 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361576046 192952 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1361576134 820901 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi guys... < 1361576143 760906 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If any of you like me spent your childhood playing the old Apogee/id DOS games (Commander Keen, Duke Nukem, Doom, Quake, Castle Wolfenstein 3D etc...), please consider backing the Kickstarter for a new game by legendary developer (of those games and more) Tom Hall! http://t.co/INXxTVj3Bp < 1361576202 940244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kickstarter is only for US and UK and I live at Canada so I won't. < 1361576217 244811 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'welcome DHeadshot < 1361576238 258219 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@186.222.62.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1361576276 704239 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn I like playing with hackego < 1361576321 364886 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo but you forgot the most important thing of all < 1361576322 517423 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you forgot the most important thing of all < 1361576332 921018 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why do you say "at" Canada? I thought it was supposed to be "in" Canada? < 1361576358 441740 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live on America < 1361576369 718289 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except to fill oerjan with mystery, that is) < 1361576487 617990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live on, America < 1361576550 75636 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION habla un poquito de español
< 1361576586 733539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :donde está la biblioteca < 1361576655 20061 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/190i3u/hdcp_is_now_completely_useless_generate_your_own/ < 1361576666 526294 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1361576672 327115 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks easy enough, maybe I should learn some spanish some day < 1361576730 638972 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361576812 330296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh Data.Sequence doesn't use much more space than lists, and sometimes less... < 1361577032 966823 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Data.Sequence < 1361577033 142763 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. < 1361577070 68473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@source Data.Sequence < 1361577070 499526 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://darcs.haskell.org/packages/containers/Data/Sequence.hs < 1361577081 236331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty bitrotten link < 1361577138 100733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lambda.haskell.org/platform/doc/current/ghc-doc/libraries/containers-0.4.2.1/Data-Sequence.html