00:11:32 It conforms as far as I know, but I may have missed something. 00:19:47 zzo38: what is it that you call a magician that is a master of spells that affect metamagical effects? 00:22:03 A hofstadter 00:22:09 -!- augur has joined. 00:23:07 (Hofstadters sail on the H.S. Metametamagical?) 00:23:25 'patamagician 00:23:29 or an asshole 00:23:54 'patamagician or Asshole: a good board game 00:27:01 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:36:32 quintopia: I am thinking, "'patamagician" 00:37:18 @google 'patamagician 00:37:19 http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3420418&TPN=34 00:38:03 after 'pataphysics. 00:43:03 Metagian 00:43:17 Metarrer 00:43:29 Pitterpatter? 00:43:59 I said maybe... that's just what will give me the option... some or none, nothing more to say 00:44:09 * Sgeo is not especially funny but he tries 00:47:33 * oerjan hits Sgeo with a plastic Yoda 01:11:14 Multimanas form a semiring, and signed multimanas form a ring. And then there is a partial ordering on multimanas as well; if X is less than or equal to Y, and X is the cost of the spell and Y is what you have, then you have sufficient mana to cast the spell. 01:13:49 -!- oleg has joined. 01:17:53 Is this sensible to you? 01:18:33 `welcome oleg 01:18:35 oleg: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 01:21:41 from moldova! 01:21:45 welcome oleg 01:25:09 -!- Arc_Koen has left. 01:35:27 -!- oleg_ has joined. 01:43:50 power went out at the super bowl 01:44:17 hacked by chinese 01:45:17 that's the thing with the ball and the feet right 01:46:17 hand egg 01:46:33 ohhh that's what "hand egg" is about 01:46:38 the ball is egg shaped and you're not allowed to use your foot except in special cases 01:46:49 i heard about that thing and it sounded vaguely familiar but i somehow forgot 01:47:09 something about dead horses, monoids 01:47:28 actually it's not egg shaped because it's radially symmetric, also the shape of eggs varies widely according to the species of bird (nests on cliffs = less spherical egg so it will roll in circles rather than off the cliff) 01:48:02 footballs are a bit pointier than eggs, and don't crack so easy 01:48:11 anyway the super bowl is most recognizable as the day when nerds in america go around loudly proclaiming to nobody in particular that nothing interesting is happening today 01:48:43 soon it will be the day when nerds go around talking about how nerds go around playing anti-football 01:48:52 kmc, grah. Funnier than my FB status, which ... tried to get a similar point across but failed 01:49:11 kmc, you can stop now 01:49:18 (the superbowl is today?) 01:49:29 "So, is this the time of year when I post a snarky comment about not watching football to self-identify with the crowd of people who is bizarrely proud of themselves for not knowing about football?" 01:49:34 ^^my status :/ 01:49:41 seriously we're getting meta here 01:50:00 Bike: as long as we don't go plaid 01:50:19 the version i liked (from twitter) was "Is there some sort of tedious symbolic distancing from mainstream American culture going on today?" 01:50:35 anyway I guess the backlash against nerd backlash against sports is over and we'll start with the backlash against that 01:50:51 even mako's blog post acknowledges that football is violent and ugly 01:50:52 has anyone considered apathy 01:50:59 can we just like, watch football 01:51:03 kmc, why do you say this like it is a bad thing 01:51:06 i don't want to watch football 01:51:10 monqy: we never bothered 01:51:14 also i did enjoy the smbc comic about brickbrain 01:51:14 personally i am all for rugby and derivative sports 01:51:16 we could also not watch football 01:51:21 either is fine 01:51:55 Now would be a bad time to watch football, anyways. 01:52:02 Stadium had a power fault. 01:52:05 kmc, i can't tell 01:52:07 if you're being serius 01:52:10 *ous 01:52:20 serious like a fox 01:52:31 -!- olsner has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 01:52:42 man 01:53:21 i was going to be all like "omg i'm on smbc? wait shit let me express my casual contempt for it" 01:53:37 it's not about you sorry 01:53:44 and it was 'headbrick' not 'brickbrain' 01:53:52 this channel's memes are more powerful 01:53:53 http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2778 01:53:57 scaugh 01:54:12 (idk what the proper onomatopoeia for that noise is) 01:54:23 pikhq, not sure if power is back on or if ... what it's supposed to look like at full power 01:54:24 the noise of a brick going into a brain? 01:54:26 There are lights on 01:54:47 Sgeo: The lights they use, use a lot of power to start. 01:55:01 So they are having to slowly bring up power to the lights to not kill the entire stadium again. 01:55:11 kmc: the comic's nice in that it mentions a social issue instead of just "wow sports are dumb am i right" 01:55:18 yeah 01:56:05 oh shit it's 2 01:56:39 sports are so stupid 01:56:40 discuss 01:56:43 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:56:58 bye ph 01:57:03 which is kind of nice for smbc in general i guess 01:57:12 [xkcd comparison]?? 01:57:26 did ph ragepeer 01:57:41 i think he just pseudotrolled as he quit 01:57:52 k 01:58:01 xkcd sometimes does social issuse 01:59:48 not sure that smbc is actually higher average quality than xkcd, but it annoys me less because people take it less seriously, or something 02:00:01 though maybe that's all over and nobody gives three shits anymore 02:01:03 not a single fuck was given that day 02:01:47 I suspect the big thing is that SMBC is not above dick jokes. :P 02:05:25 -!- olsner has joined. 02:07:15 -!- Applejacques has changed nick to TwilightSpockle. 02:18:59 true, there are no actual dongs in the infamous xkcd #631 (nsfw) 02:19:41 also a wonderful goatkcd 02:36:02 -!- Mathnerd314 has quit. 02:36:22 -!- Mathnerd314 has joined. 02:45:19 -!- augur has joined. 02:51:54 -!- azaq23 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:53:53 `fueue $3~)%[~[$7~~()+-~)])+-1*256]+---255~:)~[)] [64] 02:54:04 oops 02:54:24 A 02:54:40 ah it didn't matter 02:55:22 `fueue $3~)%[~[$7~~()+-~)])+-1*256]+---255~:)~[)[+32])] [64] 02:55:53 a 02:56:33 -!- Mathnerd314_ has joined. 02:56:46 hm i guess it takes a long time because it waits for input 03:00:36 `fueue $3~)%[~[$7~~()+-~)])+-1*256]+---255~:)~[)$%0[H])[+32])] [64] 03:00:38 a 03:00:56 `fueue $3~)%[~[$7~~()+-~)])+-1*256]+---255~:)~[)$%0[H])[+64])] [255] 03:00:57 @ 03:01:42 -!- Mathnerd314_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:02:12 `fueue ~[~~)+[$7~~()+-~)]--1*-256%]~)~:)~[)$%0[H])[+64])] [65] 03:02:13 � 03:02:21 ...eek? 03:02:46 oh duh 03:02:53 `fueue ~[~~)+[$7~~()+-~)]--1*-256%]~)~:)~[)$%0[H])[])] [65] 03:02:55 @ 03:03:58 `fueue 128 H 03:03:59 � 03:04:12 that's... a little weird. 03:04:40 oh hm 03:06:06 `echo Ø 03:06:07 Ø 03:10:54 `run perl -e 'printf "\200"' 03:10:55 � 03:11:09 `run perl -e 'print "\200"' 03:11:11 � 03:12:02 `ord Ø 03:12:04 216 03:12:43 > showOct 216 "" 03:12:45 "330" 03:12:49 `run perl -e 'print "\330"' 03:12:50 � 03:14:46 ok i guess that looks weird in my client because it has HackEgo's zero-width space in utf8 followed by something not legal in utf8 03:15:03 `run perl -e 'print "A\330"' 03:15:04 A� 03:15:30 `run perl -e 'print "A\200"' 03:15:32 A� 03:17:36 `fueue ~[~~)+[$7~~()+-~)]--1*-256%]~)~:)~[)$%0[H]+-190)] [0] 03:17:37 A 03:18:03 `fueue ~[~~)+[$7~~()+-~)]--1*-256%]~)~:)~[)$%0[H]+-190)] [1] 03:18:05 B 03:20:52 -!- oleg__ has joined. 03:21:23 `fueue ~[~~)+[$7~~()+-~)]--1*-256%]~)~:)~[[H]):[)$$7--1[)$3~[)$~!~~%~)]$2<[):]~:]~)~~[)~~~[~)~$7~~:~~([$3~)+[~~~<~()+48]~~~-)~10*)]/]--10):]]] [65] 03:21:25 64 03:21:30 `fueue ~[~~)+[$7~~()+-~)]--1*-256%]~)~:)~[[H]):[)$$7--1[)$3~[)$~!~~%~)]$2<[):]~:]~)~~[)~~~[~)~$7~~:~~([$3~)+[~~~<~()+48]~~~-)~10*)]/]--10):]]] [1] 03:21:32 0 03:21:34 `fueue ~[~~)+[$7~~()+-~)]--1*-256%]~)~:)~[[H]):[)$$7--1[)$3~[)$~!~~%~)]$2<[):]~:]~)~~[)~~~[~)~$7~~:~~([$3~)+[~~~<~()+48]~~~-)~10*)]/]--10):]]] [0] 03:21:36 255 03:33:41 'print "\330"' gives me characters which I am sending back (in UTF-8) as 'â€‹Ø' 03:34:28 g'daygan 03:34:36 I guess my client decides that the entire line must be Latin-1 because it doesn't decode as UTF-8 03:34:56 Yes, that's standard IRC procedure. 03:35:11 lambdabot doesn't do it, which has let to some confusion in the past. 03:36:19 or actually Windows-1252 i think 03:36:23 Latin-1 doesn't have ‹ 03:36:53 how do i unmess up my sleep schedule :'( 03:37:17 that's a good question for elliott 03:37:22 encoding on http://idlewords.com/2011/08/why_arabic_is_terrific.htm is still broken :( 03:37:28 ☺ 03:37:37 i Reported the Bug and everything 03:37:45 also a good question for monqy 03:38:00 :˙.) 03:39:11 shachaf: drugz 03:39:47 is there a question they won't answer?? 03:40:05 "name something that isn't drugz" 03:40:18 are drugs drugz 03:40:47 what about drukqs 03:41:51 even better 03:42:07 :☺) 03:42:10 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:42:18 fractal monqy?????? 03:42:45 -!- augur has joined. 03:43:27 I just woke up. :-( 03:43:50 I was going to stay awake today but then elliott distracted me so I stayed home and then I fell asleep. 03:44:13 :☹( 03:44:48 :🐱3 03:57:44 ಥ U+0CA5 CAT POOPING, FROM BEHIND 04:09:36 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:15:20 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 04:15:51 -!- copumpkin has joined. 04:17:14 SQLite does not quite do what I wrote before about length of UTF-8 strings; it doesn't simply skip bytes in range 0x80 to 0xBF. And if you do need the number of bytes you can cast it to a blob. 04:19:52 Any parts which is improper UTF-8 (although I think it allows overlong and out of Unicode range encodings, maybe) is treated as single bytes encoding. 04:30:58 -!- RodgerTheGreat has quit (Quit: RodgerTheGreat). 04:46:39 -!- monqy has quit (Quit: hello). 04:54:19 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 04:56:29 -!- Bike has joined. 05:02:24 SQLite is using RC4 for random number generator. 05:06:41 -!- augur has joined. 05:08:02 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:08:08 -!- augur has joined. 05:10:02 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:11:50 -!- Bike has joined. 05:18:18 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 05:18:39 -!- Sgeo has joined. 05:21:06 -!- oleg_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 05:21:06 -!- oleg has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 05:21:08 -!- oleg__ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 05:31:04 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Good night). 05:31:06 -!- monqy has joined. 05:33:42 So, a patent pretty much has to state exactly what types of objects infringe upon it, right? 05:36:46 So if a patent says "dress-pins, hair-pins, &c., made from one entire piece of wire or metal, (without a joint or hinge, or any additional metal except for ornament,) forming said pin and combining with it in one and the same piece of wire, a coiled or curved spring, and a clasp or catch, constructed substantially as above set forth and described"... 05:36:59 ...then an object infringes upon that patent if and only if it satisfies that description. 05:57:59 ok 06:31:13 yeah, but it's only the claims that matter for determining infringement 06:31:17 and it only has to match one claim 06:31:29 (that isn't invalid) 06:31:44 typical patents have a bunch of claims at different levels of specificity 06:32:03 in order to avoid having to work out where the dividing line between valid and invalid is, and yet still cover as many products as possible 07:07:48 -!- FreeFull has quit. 07:24:19 -!- asiekierka has quit (Excess Flood). 07:25:22 -!- asiekierka has joined. 08:10:02 Since ORDER BY will not make the order of side-effects in the order specified, I have implemented a FOREACH function which can be used to force the result in the specified order, for example: SELECT FOREACH({ SELECT `SPRITE`, `X`, `Y` FROM `DRAWINGS` WHERE `VISIBLE` ORDER BY `DENSITY` DESC; }, { SELECT DRAW_SPRITE(?1, ?2, ?3); }); but maybe they ought to have a better way. 08:20:52 Such as if they implemented a syntax like: SELECT UNOPTIMIZED DRAW_SPRITE(`SPRITE`, `X`, `Y`) FROM (SELECT `SPRITE`, `X`, `Y` FROM `DRAWINGS` WHERE `VISIBLE` ORDER BY `DENSITY` DESC); 08:38:44 Or perhaps have SELECT DEFERRED which acts like SELECT except that the result columns are not usable anywhere except during the result, and that DISTINCT is not allowed (neither rules applies to subqueries that don't say DEFERRED, though). Also, ORDER BY in a compound SELECT DEFERRED are not required to be aliases. (And as the first sentence says, no aliases are allowed at all.) 08:39:07 -!- Bike has quit (Quit: leaving). 08:41:31 Actually, that is wrong; compound SELECT DEFERRED statements should simply be disallowed (use a compound SELECT in the FROM clause if you need it, instead). 08:51:40 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 09:13:14 I have a feeling that things like that are not really "in the spirit of SQL", and the idea is that if you want to do something like that, you use the procedural facilities of your SQL implementation; a set of those are also part of the "SQL/PSM" standard, which itself is (I believe) part of the newer SQL standards. 09:14:56 It is SQLite. 09:15:22 Well, SQLite probably does not implement that. 09:15:39 The standard SQL/PSM way of doing something like that would, I think, be something like FOR sprite AS SELECT sprite, x, y FROM drawings WHERE visible ORDER BY density DESC DO BEGIN CALL DRAW_SPRITE(sprite.sprite, sprite.x, sprite.y); END. 09:16:27 I know SQLite does not implement that. However I have now written a (I think) complete proposal of how SELECT DEFERRED should act. 09:19:33 Actually I missed some things and am correcting it right now. 09:27:23 It is somewhat like how "volatile" in C or LLVM might affect what optimizations are performed. 09:28:33 * It can be used anywhere any other SELECT statement can be used. 09:28:41 * The keyword DEFERRED replaces the DISTINCT or ALL keyword (so you cannot be both DEFERRED and DISTINCT, although a DISTINCT query can read from a DEFERRED query or vice versa). 09:28:46 * A compound SELECT DEFERRED statement is not allowed. 09:28:51 * An aggregate SELECT DEFERRED statement is not allowed. 09:28:58 * The result columns cannot be referred to anywhere within the SELECT DEFERRED statement (whether by name or by number); this also implies that correlated subqueries are not allowed. 09:29:02 * Function calls and subqueries in the result set will not be duplicated or optimized out. 09:29:17 * The function calls and subqueries in the result set are not evaluated until the result rows are returned (such as by sqlite3_step), and are done exactly once in such circumstance, and will be evaluated from left to right. Since they are evaluated as they are being returned, they will also be always done in the order that sqlite3_step or whatever receives them, which is the order that the ORDER BY clause (if it exists) specifies and that the LIMIT and OFFSET 09:29:24 * If a FROM clause of a SELECT statement contains another SELECT statement (or a view), or a SELECT statement contains another SELECT statement as a subquery, and at least one of these SELECT statements is DEFERRED, then subquery flatting will be suppressed for this pair of SELECTs. 09:29:27 That is all. 09:30:44 Is it reasonable to you? 09:34:19 It doesn't sound unreasonable, but if your goal is for inclusion in the official SQLite, I'm not so sure if they'd be all that happy about the whole concept, as opposed to e.g. just doing that sort of stuff in the actual program that is retrieving the rows. 09:37:02 -!- ais523 has quit. 09:42:35 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 09:44:53 -!- monqy has quit (Quit: hello). 09:48:35 Except that in this case some of the stuff might be specified by the user, so I implemented this FOREACH function which does mostly what you described. Still, another thing that might work is to INSERT INTO an empty view, which has a trigger to call the actions needed (triggers are allowed to contain SELECT statements, possibly for this purpose). 10:34:44 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 10:47:06 -!- Arc_Koen has joined. 10:54:48 Adrenaline-fueled nightmare woke me up :/ 10:57:03 I don’t remember the last time i had a nightmare, except for one time when i was like 10 years old. 11:15:31 I should probably go back to sleep 11:51:12 I found a bug in SQLite. It crashes if a trigger is using a binding parameter. 11:53:44 I’m not sure if lilafiguration on -blah is trolling or just not not paying much attention to what i say. 12:06:11 zzo38, report the bug? 12:15:43 `welcome ion 12:15:49 ion: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 12:16:47 THANKS! 12:16:49 `welcome Jafet 12:16:52 Jafet: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 12:17:23 wtf is "other kind of esoterica", sounds esoteric 12:27:29 -!- tromp_ has joined. 12:27:50 -!- oonbotti has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 12:27:50 -!- rodgort has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 12:28:33 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:28:58 -!- rodgort has joined. 12:30:58 Shave the whales 12:52:24 -!- ais523 has joined. 13:05:00 Sgeo: I am unable I don't have that account. 13:05:30 Bring it up in their IRC channel then? 13:06:05 I don't know if they have IRC. 13:06:09 What does a binding parameter mean? 13:06:26 There are 78 people on freenode's #sqlite channel. 13:13:55 Oh hey I found a job that is just SCREAMING Sgeo 13:14:26 "We are currently looking for a Senior Geologist � Code: SGEO to work in Indonesia. Learn more about this job opportunity in the mining industry." 13:23:13 -!- ais523_ has joined. 13:23:16 -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:28:03 -!- ais523_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 14:13:02 http://zeroturnaround.com/jrebel/free-javarebel-for-scala-users-zeroturnaround-announces/ 14:23:46 -!- boily has joined. 14:30:22 hi boily 14:35:54 hi quintopia! 14:49:24 月曜日　コーヒーを飲む　雪である 15:15:17 -!- Taneb has joined. 15:26:44 うん、コーヒーが良い考え。 15:27:08 そして、この月曜日にコーヒーを作ろう。 15:38:48 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:38:48 -!- EgoBot has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 15:39:36 -!- EgoBot has joined. 15:49:02 -!- coppro has joined. 16:01:02 https://github.com/twitter/bijection/issues/41 16:08:42 -!- FreeFull has joined. 16:10:52 http://imgur.com/lM2MX4W 16:14:31 -!- augur has joined. 16:20:18 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 16:28:25 "Regular Polish is quite different from South Polish. That's a lot colder and spoken by penguins" 16:30:17 Remind me that I want to read http://www.scala-lang.org/docu/files/IC_TECH_REPORT_200433.pdf and http://www.scala-lang.org/docu/files/TheExpressionProblem.pdf 16:31:03 i love the expression problem 16:32:40 @tell Sgeo you are reminded that you want to read http://www.scala-lang.org/docu/files/IC_TECH_REPORT_200433.pdf and http://www.scala-lang.org/docu/files/TheExpressionProblem.pdf 16:32:40 Consider it noted. 17:00:15 -!- Nisstyre has joined. 17:09:36 what about reverse polish 17:15:16 Debian: "A buffer overflow problem has been found in nagios3... A malicious client could craft a request to history.cgi and cause application crashes." 17:15:27 MITRE: "Multiple stack-based buffer overflows... might allow remote attackers to execute arbitrary code" 17:19:00 -!- Bike has joined. 17:26:25 Email subject line: Important Information” Regarding Graduate Staff 2012-13 Continuation Insurance Benefit "IMPORTANT" 17:26:36 Why don't you know how to use quotes, random Internet person? 17:26:42 Why, why, why don't you know how to use quotes. 17:27:20 this is a weird place to complain about the use of quotation marks 17:27:54 TwilightSpockle: This is hardly the channel to complain about quote misuse in! 17:28:06 'quote 17:28:11 Dahell. 17:28:18 This is, like, THE channel to complain about quote misuse. 17:28:22 Where the hell is pikhq. 17:28:59 `quote quote 17:29:01 30) i can get an erection out of a plank, you can quote me on that. \ 70) [Warrigal] `addquote hahaha, Lawlabee is running windows 'cuz it's pretty awesome. [Lawlabee] Warrigal: :( \ 71) Note that quote number 124 is not actually true. \ 79) let's put that in the HackEgo quotes files, just to completely mystif 17:29:22 `quote 123 17:29:23 `quote 124 17:29:24 123) Oh I get it you guys just use this space to do nothing ? 17:29:25 124) Why shouldn't I just do everything in non-Microsoft-specific C#? it's like trying to write non-IE-specific JavaScript with only Microsoft documentation and only IE to test on 17:29:26 `quote 123 17:29:27 123) Oh I get it you guys just use this space to do nothing ? 17:29:28 aaah 17:29:31 I can't type today 17:29:45 `quote 125 17:29:47 125) (in #irp) Flonk, ask on #esoteric? Sgeo: yeah well its C++, so not that esoteric :P 17:30:54 oerjan: Quote me a quote. 17:43:21 `quote Sgeo 17:43:23 54) What else is there to vim besides editing commands? \ 68) Where's the link to the log? THERE'S NO LOG. YOUR REQUEST IS SUSPICIOUS AND HAS BEEN LOGGED. \ 101) And... WTF is it doing. :( Is it sexing? \ 110) what's the data of? [...] Locations in a now deceased game called Muta 17:43:41 `quote shachaf 17:43:43 542) elliott: GHC bug? Come on, it's the parentheses. The more parentheses you add, the closer it is to LISP, and therefore the more dynamically-typed. \ 583) Real Tar is GNU tar. You just ignore whichever features don't make you feel superior enough. \ 617) VMS Mosaic? I hope that's no 17:47:42 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 17:48:04 -!- FreeFull has joined. 17:51:21 Taneb: `pastequote 17:51:25 eg 17:51:28 `pastequote Sgeo 17:51:29 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastequote: not found 17:51:41 hrm 17:51:41 `pastequotes Sgeo 17:51:43 That went well 17:51:46 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.20079 17:56:28 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 17:56:34 Hello 17:58:38 `delquote 583 17:58:44 *poof* Real Tar is GNU tar. You just ignore whichever features don't make you feel superior enough. 18:00:03 `revert 18:00:07 Done. 18:00:21 I don't think that quote belongs there. 18:00:22 `delquote 583 18:00:26 *poof* Real Tar is GNU tar. You just ignore whichever features don't make you feel superior enough. 18:01:03 `revert 18:01:05 Done. 18:01:09 * shachaf sighs. 18:01:13 thelliott 18:25:38 -!- RodgerTheGreat has joined. 18:32:37 what's a thelliott? 18:33:14 seems like the + elliott doesn't it? 18:33:22 Praise thelliott! 18:33:31 the version of an elliott who follows a theist philosophy 18:33:53 `delquote 583 18:33:54 as opposed to athelliott 18:33:58 *poof* Real Tar is GNU tar. You just ignore whichever features don't make you feel superior enough. 18:34:02 there is only one thelliott, but there multiple aelliotts? 18:34:04 boily, have you not watched look around you 18:34:10 the solution: watch look around you 18:34:21 Heh, maybe elliott could consider AnotherElliott :p 18:34:21 good solution 18:34:46 thanks, Phantom_Hoover. thphantomhoover. 18:35:16 now shut up. thodger in advance 18:37:27 -!- ThatOtherPerson has changed nick to ZorkBot. 18:37:37 -!- ZorkBot has changed nick to ThatOtherPerson. 18:42:14 -!- carado has joined. 18:51:13 -!- ogrom has joined. 18:55:09 Quick poll: syntax highlighting - do you prefer a light or dark background? 18:55:52 light, but it isn't terribly important to me 18:57:57 background switching rapidly between primary red, green, and blue at about 3 Hz 18:58:36 I have my foreground and background colours switch every 5s 18:59:11 (implying I do not use syntax highlighting too) 19:00:32 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:02:22 huh, in C++ if a lambda wants to modify its enclosing scope, it needs to be declared with the 'mutable' keyword 19:02:25 i did not know 19:02:47 i thought it was that you had to say which variables you wanted to capture, and whether it was by reference 19:02:58 you do that too 19:03:07 hmm 19:03:31 oh i think it's slightly different 19:03:45 you use 'mutable' if you want to capture by value, but allow the lambda to modify its /own/ scope between calls 19:04:12 otherwise you get the original closed-over values on every call 19:04:13 i think 19:04:26 or you just can't modify them at all 19:04:31 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5501959/why-does-c0xs-lambda-require-mutable-keyword-for-capture-by-value-by-defau 19:06:20 ...huh? 19:09:12 huh what? 19:09:28 i just don't understand that page 19:14:31 oh, mutable lets you esbalish a new scope that you can still modify things in, i guess. weird 19:15:22 kmc: no 19:15:31 mutable and capture-by-value and capture-by-reference are orthogonal 19:16:02 mutable is a const-safety thing; the by-value [foo] or by-reference [&foo] is an explicit reference thign 19:16:06 *thing 19:26:30 . 19:26:30 Sgeo: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. 19:26:34 @messages 19:26:34 boily said 2h 53m 53s ago: you are reminded that you want to read http://www.scala-lang.org/docu/files/IC_TECH_REPORT_200433.pdf and http://www.scala-lang.org/docu/files/TheExpressionProblem. 19:26:34 pdf 19:26:46 nice line breaking 19:31:13 If a company called me as I was heading somewhere and I told them to call back at 5 and they said that's not too late, would it be a bad idea for me to call them before that? 19:31:32 nah 19:33:23 -!- monqy has joined. 19:33:45 they're going to call you at 5, but you want to call back before then? 19:33:45 why? 19:35:15 Because my estimate of "5" as the time that I'd be available was at the very late end, I'm available now 19:35:28 but is it a great hardship for you to just take the call at 5? 19:35:31 No 19:35:38 then i would just keep things simple and do that 19:35:41 Ok 19:43:10 -!- oerjan has joined. 19:50:36 -!- WeThePeople has joined. 19:52:33 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 20:00:27 -!- oklofok has joined. 20:03:59 -!- oklopol has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 20:08:02 -!- WeThePeople has quit (Quit: Leaving). 20:14:33 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 20:18:55 `printenv 20:18:56 TERM=linux \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ HACKENV=/hackenv \ PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin \ PWD=/hackenv \ LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ SHLVL=0 \ HOME=/tmp 20:20:16 `run printenv | tail 20:20:18 TERM=linux \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ HACKENV=/hackenv \ PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin \ PWD=/hackenv \ LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ HOME=/tmp \ SHLVL=1 \ _=/usr/bin/printenv 20:20:55 I like how that somehow outputted more... 20:20:55 TwilightSpockle: just had an idea, what about putting the nick of the requester in some environment variable? could be useful. 20:21:09 oh hm 20:21:19 elliott: Because there's a shell sitting on top. 20:21:20 `run printenv | tail -1 20:21:21 _=/usr/bin/printenv 20:21:29 oh, right 20:21:39 In fact, I suspect... 20:21:40 `run printenv 20:21:42 TERM=linux \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ HACKENV=/hackenv \ PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin \ PWD=/hackenv \ LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ HOME=/tmp \ SHLVL=1 \ _=/usr/bin/printenv 20:21:44 Yup. 20:21:52 So you can distinguish ` from `run ;) 20:25:15 coppro: can you elaborate on what mutable for a closure means? 20:25:17 -!- Bike has joined. 20:28:31 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 20:29:20 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 20:48:07 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 21:01:06 -!- myndzi has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 21:02:29 -!- myndzi has joined. 21:02:32 `run printf 'GET http://google.com HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: google.com\r\n\r\n' | nc 127.0.0.1 3128 21:02:34 HTTP/1.0 301 Moved Permanently 21:03:20 wat 21:03:36 `run printf 'CONNECT google.com:80 HTTP/1.1\r\n\r\n' | nc 127.0.0.1 3128 21:03:37 HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden 21:04:08 is kmc hacking the ego 21:04:11 `run printf 'GET http://www.google.com/ HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: www.google.com\r\n\r\n' | nc 127.0.0.1 3128 21:04:12 `run curl http://google.com/ 21:04:14 HTTP/1.0 200 OK 21:04:15 % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current \ Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed \ 21:04:32 what the hell is connect 21:04:33 Not quite sure why it's only giving one line... 21:04:35 why is it only printing the response line 21:04:40 Mayhaps it doesn't like \r? 21:04:41 oh boy tunneling 21:04:44 Bike: used to proxy arbitrary TCP streams through HTTP proxies 21:04:50 designated use: SSL 21:04:50 `run echo -e 'Hello\r\nworld' 21:04:52 Hello 21:04:54