00:00:21 I love the overuse of the love meme 00:01:36 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 00:03:41 sgeo......no........ 00:04:43 Sgeo_: Don't do it. 00:13:41 I love ellipses 00:14:01 SGEO_. 00:14:14 would you smoke around someone who's trying to quit smoking? 00:14:24 would you say hi to monqy? 00:15:01 -!- Jafet has joined. 00:15:31 Fiora: Are you studying to be a language lawyer? 00:15:39 ummmm I'm just curious really! 00:15:45 there's so much I don't know about C 00:16:21 Did you know: The standard allows argc==0, *argv==NULL? 00:16:40 You must be reading the wrong standard then, shachaf. 00:16:51 Jafet: I was reading C89 and C99. 00:16:59 Which one should I be reading? 00:17:09 c99 is so last millenium 00:17:13 K&R doesn't allow that. 00:17:18 The one that makes your program work. 00:17:19 But who pays attention to K&R? 00:17:33 argc == 0? XD 00:17:46 is argv[0] equal to program name a system convention, or C convention? 00:17:58 i would guess posix, that seems like it'd be out of scope of C 00:18:32 Fiora: Try it out! 00:18:38 You can segfault quite a lot of programs in /usr/bin/ with it. 00:19:03 sa 00:19:04 *XD 00:19:08 I wonder if you can pass envp = 0. 00:20:06 I think the best you can do is *envp = 0 00:21:05 Lots of programs will just use envp[0] as argv[0] on Linux. 00:27:50 -!- sebbu has joined. 00:28:01 Fiora: Exercise: Make up a case where a program not checking for argc==0 can lead to a security vulnerability. 00:28:16 does execve on real systems allow argc=0? 00:28:17 (I couldn't come up with a realistic one. Segfaults are easy but not useful.) 00:28:21 Yep! 00:28:24 At least on Linux. 00:28:34 Hence the segfaults I mentioned earlier. 00:29:10 Even on some suid binaries. 00:29:51 if you set up a signal handler, does it get overwritten when you execve? 00:30:07 I would generally hope so. 00:30:23 Yeah, it would be a little insane if it didn't 00:31:21 it would be so easy 00:32:18 man execve mentions signal handlers (or rather "dispositions", I haven't really used signals) are reset. doesn't mention posixness or nuthin 00:57:49 Macro parameters cannot have line numbers in GNU C so I instead used various things to make it work; this involves redefining macros that are already defined and using mismatched parentheses. (This is for a puzzle game called "Brains&Flags") 00:59:05 zzo38: What's the game? 01:02:37 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 01:04:49 Is isn't written enough yet that you can look at it! 01:05:28 But it sort of resembles a cross between Hero Hearts and Magic: the Gathering, although there are also some things like chess and so on. 01:08:02 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:12:12 -!- azaq23 has joined. 01:50:44 -!- TeruFSX2 has joined. 01:52:23 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 01:54:28 -!- TeruFSX has joined. 01:58:00 -!- TeruFSX2 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 01:59:17 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 02:03:39 -!- TeruFSX has joined. 02:05:58 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:08:21 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 02:09:13 -!- impomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 02:14:14 -!- TeruFSX has joined. 02:24:59 `echo wett: ahoy 02:25:01 wett: ahoy 02:29:06 -!- SirCmpwn has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 02:34:05 -!- monqy has quit (Quit: hello). 02:35:00 -!- SirCmpwn has joined. 02:36:33 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:38:31 -!- FreeFull has joined. 02:40:11 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:41:40 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 02:42:25 -!- FreeFull has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:43:00 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 02:43:28 -!- FreeFull has joined. 02:44:12 -!- TeruFSX has joined. 02:55:05 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 02:56:57 -!- FreeFull has joined. 03:00:05 There is a piece of code in Pharo that starts 03:00:06 false ifTrue: 03:01:11 false ifTrue: [self flag: #nominallyUnsent:] "So that this method itself will appear to be sent" 03:02:01 can clojure do that? 03:04:58 Have an actual reason to do (if false ...)? 03:04:59 -!- augur has joined. 03:05:14 I don't really understand the reason. 03:06:03 I think it's so that the IDE thinks that there exists a piece of code that sends nominallyUnsent: 03:06:47 -!- WeThePeople has joined. 03:08:03 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 03:14:34 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:14:57 -!- Sgeo has joined. 03:15:05 -!- FreeFull has joined. 03:21:18 -!- oerjan has joined. 03:28:09 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 03:29:27 * Sgeo wonders if Squeak looks any less horrible these days 03:30:13 ih. Theme still sucks but it's less... horrible, I guess? http://static.squeak.org/screenshots/world_color.png 03:30:40 -!- Bike_ has joined. 03:30:41 -!- FreeFull has joined. 03:30:56 Sgeo: looks like Java 03:32:32 -!- Bike has quit (Disconnected by services). 03:32:34 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 03:39:55 Haskell doesn't seem to have a power function that takes a ratio as the index 03:40:16 > 2 ** (1/3) -- what's wrong with this? 03:40:17 1.2599210498948732 03:40:29 the "index"? 03:41:41 shachaf: if a program does something like while (--argc) { ... } 03:41:49 then for argc == 0, the loop will execute many times 03:41:51 what's wrong is FreeFull isn't actually here 03:41:55 kmc: Yes. 03:41:59 This is pretty common. 03:42:12 also it will eventually signed-integer-underflow which is UB 03:43:56 least you can mostly fix it by moving two characters. 03:44:38 UB is sufficient to be bad but not sufficient to be exploitable. 03:45:21 `list 03:45:21 Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti alot 03:45:44 char *buf[256]; int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { if (argc > 256) abort(); while (--argc) buf[argc] = *(argv++); } 03:46:25 That's a bit too convoluted for my taste. 03:47:02 it doesn't seem that convoluted and could probably be made less convoluted and longer 03:47:27 what do you usually get on x86 GNU/Linux when you read past the end of argv? 03:47:34 you get a NULL pointer and then envp entries, yeah? 03:49:09 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 03:49:25 Yes. 03:49:33 > minBound `div` (-1) :: Int 03:49:34 *Exception: arithmetic overflow 03:50:53 > minBound `div` 0 :: Int 03:50:54 *Exception: divide by zero 03:50:55 -!- FreeFull has joined. 03:51:08 FreeFull: FOCUS 03:51:20 FreeFull! You have four seconds to explain what the "index" of an exponentiation is! 03:51:30 TOO LATE 03:52:46 i expect it means the exponent, since that is the one where you cannot use a ratio with all the haskell operators 03:52:46 and there are plenty of cases where an attacker partially controls the environment of a setuid binary, aren't there 03:53:22 Sure. 03:59:08 also the long loop itself could be a security vulnerability, a DoS 03:59:21 if a setuid program has higher rlimits than you do, or acquires a privileged lock or something 03:59:42 I suppose. 03:59:55 ooc, what do you find convoluted about my example? 04:01:34 Mostly that I looked at the argument parsing of a bunch of programs and didn't see anything that looked much like that. 04:01:49 But it's probably less convoluted than I thought. 04:02:00 Oh, there are some programs that do malloc() based on argc. 04:02:19 That could be promising, if they then try to copy into a buffer. 04:03:37 For example Dalvik does this. 04:04:05 https://github.com/android/platform_dalvik/blob/master/dalvikvm/Main.cpp#L154 04:07:17 In this case it's probably also not exploitable. 04:10:59 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 04:11:34 "Java stopped working with 32-bit browsers, and Chrome never became 64-bit. Which is kind of terrible in itself." 04:11:37 What's this about? 04:12:27 How should I know? You pasted it. 04:12:45 Is that person actually being accurate, or delusional? 04:12:55 (About no more Java for 32-bit browsers) 04:13:06 -!- FreeFull has joined. 04:18:07 -!- FreeFull_ has joined. 04:19:03 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 04:23:07 -!- FreeFull has joined. 04:24:12 -!- FreeFull_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 04:28:31 ah yeah, they do essentially malloc(sizeof(foo) * (argc-1)) 04:28:45 which will be a classic malloc size overflow if argc==0 04:28:54 shachaf: you should write a level based on argc==0 and submit it to IO! 04:29:21 -!- ais523 has quit. 04:30:16 kmc: I'd submit one to your CTF! 04:30:27 Weren't you going to make one? 04:30:55 i was going to do a different thing 04:31:03 Oh, the cryptography thing? 04:32:34 no 04:32:39 the devious code contest 04:32:48 Oh, that too. 04:33:11 Hmm, there's actually a lot of overlap between CTF levels and underhanded code contest submissions. 04:33:51 i was never planning to run a CTF by meself 04:36:13 -!- FreeFull_ has joined. 04:37:45 -!- azaq23 has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 04:38:55 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 04:44:20 -!- FreeFull_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 04:46:41 -!- FreeFull has joined. 05:08:58 200 000 000 × 0.01% = goatse 05:12:43 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 05:14:53 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 05:17:34 -!- FreeFull has joined. 05:22:37 -!- azaq23 has joined. 05:40:49 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 05:43:42 -!- FreeFull has joined. 05:50:13 -!- FreeFull has quit. 06:19:14 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 06:19:45 -!- copumpkin has joined. 06:23:04 -!- ogrom has joined. 06:29:56 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 06:30:02 -!- DH____ has joined. 06:41:34 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 06:42:34 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 06:49:17 http://andrew-hoyer.com/experiments/entropy/ 06:53:53 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 06:54:23 -!- copumpkin has joined. 07:04:21 -!- carado has joined. 07:04:28 that site has so high entropy it doesn't load 07:04:44 it's pretty, in a web 3.0 way, which is more than most esolangs get 07:08:47 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 07:16:43 Loads just fine for me 07:20:33 -!- WeThePeople has quit (Quit: Leaving). 07:25:52 seems you could easily keep bits using Techniques. 07:31:48 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 07:33:28 -!- azaq23 has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 07:34:43 There was a TV program about "glitch art" I happened to glance at a while ago. 07:34:55 It registered quite high on the old pretentiometer. 07:55:22 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:55:50 -!- augur has joined. 07:59:56 -!- Bike has quit (Quit: sleep). 08:38:54 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 08:47:00 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 08:50:41 1F46B MAN AND WOMAN HOLDING HANDS 08:50:42 x (restroom - 1F6BB) 09:03:19 -!- carado has joined. 10:08:28 -!- ogrom has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 10:08:33 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 10:10:50 -!- ogrom has joined. 10:13:10 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 10:15:49 -!- md_5 has changed nick to md_5|away. 10:18:13 -!- ogrom has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 10:24:28 -!- ogrom has joined. 11:09:56 -!- DH____ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 11:10:18 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 11:13:41 lol. i saw this spacechem solution for an easy level that took like 100k cycles 11:13:56 and i thought of a better way to do it, plus found a level i could implement it on 11:14:11 the cycle counter changed to say +INF before the first molecule was 1/3 of the way to the output 11:14:13 :O 11:14:28 i'm gonna let it run overnight and see if it keeps an actual count 11:42:28 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 11:42:38 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 11:43:18 `list 11:43:22 Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti alot 11:43:40 (from a few hours ago) 12:02:14 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:13:20 I should really go back to sleep 13:07:52 -!- ogrom has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 13:15:55 -!- boily has joined. 13:34:09 I wish Smalltalk was more like Snit 14:35:07 i wish my stomach was more like full 14:52:02 So Maru is the minimal parts that you need in order to "bootstrap" a VM for a language (what you like) at runtime. 14:52:02 So if you read his "js implementation" it starts by defining some low level semantics (at runtime) - then add a bit on those - then suddenly it starts running "js" so to speak. 14:52:02 So Maru defines the js runtime dynamically when it starts. 14:52:02 This means that the "VM" is purely dynamic and can reconfigure itself during runtime for different languages. 14:58:35 * Sgeo goes to read http://www.dynamic-languages-symposium.org/dls-06/program/media/IanPiumarta_2006_OpenExtensibleDynamicProgrammingSystems_Dls.pdf 14:58:35 -!- augur_ has joined. 15:03:10 -!- Fiora_ has joined. 15:03:32 -!- atehwa_ has joined. 15:06:12 I have no idea what's going on 15:07:10 -!- comex` has joined. 15:07:48 -!- carado has quit (*.net *.split). 15:07:48 -!- augur has quit (*.net *.split). 15:07:48 -!- Fiora has quit (*.net *.split). 15:07:48 -!- atehwa has quit (*.net *.split). 15:07:50 -!- comex has quit (*.net *.split). 15:10:55 -!- carado has joined. 15:11:25 -!- carado has quit (*.net *.split). 15:12:32 -!- carado has joined. 15:27:48 http://yle.fi/uutiset/finnish_silence_can_be_golden_says_american_expert/6454371 15:28:34 finnish snow can be golden too 15:31:08 ebin 15:49:48 -!- Nisstyre has quit (Quit: Leaving). 15:50:55 Lumpio-: ebin? 15:51:07 -!- impomatic has joined. 15:51:07 5/5 15:56:06 -!- ogrom has joined. 16:01:03 Do not eat the yellow snow. 16:01:44 spödre sparderer 16:03:44 "The sauna is also a place where Finns do not normally engage in a lot of conversation --" I don't really know if that has been my experience. Though it does say "normally". 16:14:23 -!- Taneb has joined. 16:14:37 Sgeo: my situation got worse 16:15:03 Hang on 16:15:04 -!- Taneb has quit (Client Quit). 16:16:00 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 16:16:29 -!- Taneb has joined. 16:34:15 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 16:34:34 Phantom_Hoover: help 16:34:39 ho3 16:34:42 *how 16:34:50 Rescue my computer 16:34:57 From the clutches of something 16:34:57 what is the matter upon for guidance for which to me you turn 16:35:18 After last night's graphics card kerfuffle, I now cannot seem to launch a GUI 16:35:23 you maybe should ask elliott about that 16:35:39 he is after all closer and can free it with less commuting 16:37:10 what card etc. 16:38:04 Some form of nVidia, turns out not what I thought 16:40:37 Ubuntu 12.04, 304 experimental drivers 16:41:46 i should point out right now that i know nothing about this 16:43:22 Hence why I've also asked in #nvidia 16:46:26 ...and recieved no response so far 16:48:33 Taneb: I've had multiple problems with various bêta nVidia drivers in the past. I don't know how easy it is to downgrade them on ubuntu, but that usually did the trick on my old machine. 16:48:41 bêta 16:48:56 boily: the problem is ridiculous already 16:49:03 Basically, I had a bootleg graphics card 16:49:06 elliott: my French's slipping again :p 16:49:07 Well, I still have it 16:49:22 Taneb: bootleg card? that's possible? 16:49:26 Yeah 16:49:32 I bought it from a dodgy chinese website 16:49:44 It's a few models older than it pretends to be 16:50:23 So I decided to switch to the 310 driver 16:50:35 But that doesn't support what the card actually is 16:50:58 So, after confusing everyone in #ubuntu-steam and #nvidia, I downgraded to 304 16:50:59 Taneb: there's this reply here that says 12.04 doesn't support legacy drivers, if that's relevant: http://askubuntu.com/questions/148688/getting-unity-3d-working-on-legacy-nvidia-card 16:51:09 Huh 16:51:15 It worked before, I'm sure 16:51:17 (reply meaning the second one) 16:51:39 And also I have no idea how to open links from irssi 16:52:31 I use nouveau drivers for my nvidia 16:53:24 in summary, it says the old 173 and 96 branches aren't supported on 12.04, and that you have to build them manually. 16:53:46 Yeah, I'm trying to use the 304 branch 16:54:57 -!- ais523 has joined. 17:01:34 Futuerjan: I saw your edits on the Fueue article 17:01:35 :) 17:08:45 -!- sirdancealot7 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:11:12 -!- Bike has joined. 17:12:37 I'm getting increasingly tempted to upgrade to 12.10 to see what happens 17:13:11 Taneb: I'm using Ubuntu 12.10, I like it 17:13:22 there are some annoying bugs, though 17:13:57 ais523: more annoying than not having a GUI? 17:17:44 Taneb: no 17:17:53 do you not have a GUI on your current OS? 17:19:15 Graphics card issues 17:19:20 I have no idea what's going on 17:26:11 -!- sebbu has joined. 17:28:06 did you try to remove the drivers and reinstall the "stable/supported" ones provided by ubuntu (or a ppa) ? 17:28:34 Multiple times 17:28:37 Gonna try again 17:29:07 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 17:30:16 -!- Vorpal has joined. 17:30:35 I would remove the new drivers, purge any remaining files of them, reinstall the kernel and install the drivers provided by ubuntu/ppa 17:35:03 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 17:39:57 -!- FreeFull has joined. 17:45:54 -!- sebbu has joined. 17:52:49 -!- FreeFull_ has joined. 17:55:26 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 18:00:55 -!- deneb has joined. 18:03:03 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: leaving). 18:03:06 -!- FreeFull has joined. 18:05:09 -!- FreeFull_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 18:08:33 -!- deneb has left. 18:16:18 maru was mentioned in #squeak 18:25:31 -!- atehwa_ has changed nick to atehwa. 18:41:04 * tswett vi NFU_typed_forcibly.v 18:43:37 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 18:50:51 -!- Deewiant has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 18:51:09 -!- Deewiant has joined. 19:11:09 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 19:11:57 -!- Taneb has joined. 19:13:36 Phantom_Hoover, you'll be relieved to know that my computer is working again! 19:13:46 c00kiemon5ter, thanks 19:14:00 well that's a relief 19:36:40 Today, for some reason, me and some friends were talking about how Insane Clown Posse seem to only have one song 19:38:21 Then it turns out we were all thinking of different songs 19:44:27 -!- TeruFSX has joined. 19:48:22 oh you mean the song where they rap some bullshift on a background of nothing of interest 19:49:45 bull<< 19:50:09 fizzie: 'pretentiometer' is a great word, thanks 19:50:14 so my job is to write articles about things called subshifts 19:50:26 guess how many times i've almost written that subshit 19:50:35 *almost left that in as 19:51:21 also a guy who used to work at the uni before me (who has the same name as me) - presumably accidentally - left it as subshit in his phd. 19:51:39 somewhere like page 50 so no one will ever know but anyway 19:51:43 There's more than one oklopol? 19:52:05 no i'm referring to the pseudonym i go by in real life 19:52:25 Oh that one 19:52:33 I think I picked a pretty cool one of those 19:52:44 nathan? 19:52:54 Nathan van Doorn 19:52:57 oh right 19:53:00 I sound like a supervillain 19:53:02 yes that's pretty damn awesome 19:53:12 And it literally means "He gave from the house of Thor" 19:53:29 wanna switch names 19:53:48 my name means some forest shit 19:53:50 What's your name 19:54:26 `list 19:54:28 TUMBLR update 19:54:29 Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti alot 19:54:36 (No new comic) 19:54:58 Hehe, I'm half the list 19:55:07 ville salo 19:55:09 ville means nothing 19:55:31 http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/05739.gif 19:56:10 That's what I imagine shachaf doing whenever I post Homestuck in another channel 19:56:15 XD 19:56:45 Taneb................................ 19:57:01 Maybe I should get the ~u hoodie. Sometimes I scare myself with how much I can imagine being that character 19:57:29 so i put some lemon in my milk 19:57:34 for no apparent reason 19:57:38 it was horrible 19:57:39 o_O 19:57:44 curdled? 19:57:56 yes 19:58:26 Sgeo: calliope? 19:58:38 Fiora_, the other cherub 19:58:42 (Trying to avoid spoilers) 19:58:48 the other one is scaryyy 19:58:51 and creepy 19:58:56 you don't seem very creepy 19:59:16 I feel like a creep sometimes 19:59:24 I think I have creeped people out in the past 19:59:40 I creep people out all the time 20:00:10 Might be because I'm 6 foot tall and quite quiet on my feet 20:00:37 I don't know, competing with the other cherub sounds a little difficult 20:00:38 -!- dessos has changed nick to who. 20:00:54 -!- who has changed nick to dessos. 20:01:14 Sgeo: yes actually you are such a creep. you are stalking me with homestuck updates. you creep 20:01:34 Little does he know... 20:01:44 -!- ogrom has quit (Quit: Left). 20:05:24 i love updates 20:05:26 they are so easy 20:05:34 (oopse) 20:06:12 Theory: shachaf actually reads Homestuck but he doesn't want anyone to know because he cosplays Nepeta and is embarrassed 20:06:15 shachaf, you should start evoling stuff 20:06:37 i like this theory 20:09:17 I like it too 20:09:25 bike can be meulin 20:09:41 good excuse to learn ASL. 20:10:13 and grow my hair out, i guess 20:10:54 your fluffyhair probably would actually look like that grown out too 20:14:27 :33 < don't be prepawsterous, Taneb. your theory n33ds work 20:16:00 I was thinking the other day about categories 20:16:11 categories: so easy?? 20:16:12 And how they're not much like gory cats 20:16:18 Even though they sound sort of similar 20:18:11 :33 < you sound almeowst purrfect shachaf! his theory is purrfectly fitting. 20:18:29 :33 < you catpun to make a wonderfurl nepeta too 20:18:40 ^rot13 catpuns 20:18:41 pngchaf 20:18:59 hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 20:19:10 .... 20:19:35 ^rot13 gifchaf 20:19:36 tvspuns 20:19:58 ^rot13 jpegchaf 20:19:58 wcrtpuns 20:20:56 i love fitting theories 20:20:58 it is so easy 20:22:14 :33 < meowbe you should make it a habit! 20:23:03 imo Fiora_ is a much better candidate for this 20:23:21 Fiora_: You grew an _. You should have it removed before it's too late. 20:23:28 I haven't seen conclusive proof that Fiora_ and shachaf aren't the same person 20:23:29 oh no. 20:23:32 you're right :< 20:23:33 -!- Fiora_ has changed nick to Fiora. 20:23:42 Fiora___________________ 20:23:44 fixedies 20:24:02 `welcome Fiora_ 20:24:04 Fiora_: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 20:24:36 have we ever seen fiora and shachaf in the same roo- oh, we have. 20:25:17 We have? 20:25:27 Taneb: maybe shachaf has DID? 20:27:25 maybe Fiora is the Canadian counterpart to shachaf? 20:27:39 Fiora is Canadian? 20:27:47 Fiora: I thought you were from New Zealand.. 20:27:49 s/.$?/ 20:27:51 Ugh. 20:27:57 ... I'm from southern california... 20:27:59 That should be s/.$// 20:28:03 close enough. 20:28:14 southern canadafornia 20:28:18 southern canadafiora 20:28:29 i was in southern california once 20:28:31 twice 20:28:33 three times?? qed 20:28:45 In fact I was there just a few months ago. 20:28:47 difference 1 between here and canada: it doesn't get cold 20:29:02 @localweather Fiora 20:29:02 Unknown command, try @list 20:29:23 it's 25C right now 20:29:30 It's 10°C here. :-( 20:29:30 (this is a lot warmer than it's been lately, actually, so this is a little unusual) 20:29:33 C++ 20:29:35 now it's 26C 20:29:43 -13°C here. 20:29:52 it's uh 20:29:55 usually it's ~10-15C 20:29:56 Poor boily. 20:30:05 -1 C here apparently 20:30:06 Are you in Finland? 20:30:12 (I googled "weather in hexham") 20:30:38 shachaf: minimum -22 tonight, going to hit around -26 next thursday. 20:30:44 oh, it's actually above freezing here, weird. 20:30:57 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars#The_weather_in_London 20:31:00 elliott: http://www.thefuckingweather.com/?where=hexham&unit=c 20:32:45 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=The+weather+in+London&year=&month=-1 oh wow, it's beautiful. 20:32:53 Bike: apparently "I CAN'T FIND THAT SHIT" 20:33:01 nor can most mortals 20:33:02 Fiora++ for being American and using °C, by the way. 20:33:05 Bike++ too? 20:33:19 Peer pressure, man. 20:33:24 F is weird 20:33:36 I pretty much always use metric 20:33:37 Usually I'd use Rankine, but the fucking weather doesn't support it. 20:34:00 though it's frustrating sometimes since like 80% of the time it goes like this 20:34:08 K and R are convenient because you don't have to type °?!?! 20:34:13 "fiora how tall are you 156cm *person puts 156cm into wolfram alpha to convert to feet*" 20:34:28 gonna be honest, i have no head for cm. 20:34:41 For me it goes 20:34:43 -!- dessos has left. 20:34:54 I thought Fiora was French 20:35:06 What is going on 20:35:16 "shachaf how tall are you uh i have no idea let me look at my identification card thing????? oh it's in feet" 20:35:17 wow, fiora. where aren't you from? 20:35:21 hexham? 20:35:30 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 20:35:46 Fiora is probably just from Helsinki. 20:35:52 Bike: do you actually use rankine 20:35:56 `? helsinki 20:35:58 helsinki? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 20:36:01 What! 20:36:06 oerjan: Fix this immediately. 20:36:18 elliott: no, i use rømerjan. 20:36:31 `? finland 20:36:32 Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least nine of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. 20:36:37 why do people think I'm from all these weird places @_@ 20:36:40 `? Helsinki 20:36:40 Helsinki? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 20:36:45 `? Canada 20:36:46 Canada? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 20:36:49 shachaf: @tqbf says "If you’re interesting in ~30 crypto breaking exercises, mail sean@matasano.com and he’ll get you started (he’s more responsive than me)" 20:36:49 beuh... 20:36:53 `? the US 20:36:54 The US is the country opposed to the THEM. 20:37:00 i don't really understand if this is just open to anyone or what 20:37:03 Fiora: It's hard to remember someone's true location when they're from somewhere weird like Kiribati. 20:37:12 @google Kiribati 20:37:12 haha 20:37:13 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiribati 20:37:13 Title: Kiribati - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 20:37:15 is fiora from kiribati? 20:37:16 What's it like in Kiribati??? 20:37:20 kmc: Did you? 20:37:22 o_O 20:37:24 yeah it sounds nice 20:37:34 kmc: I think it's probably open to anyone. 20:37:42 well, in a few years kiribati's probably gonna sink, so you'd better take advantage of being in kiribati as much as possible 20:37:58 I thought Kiribati was in Finland 20:38:09 ok this isn't funny any more, everyone knows Fiora is really from ullapool 20:38:21 have not emailed yet 20:38:22 Fiora: If you sink I won't be able to attend your funeral because Kiribati is really far away, sorry. 20:38:36 elliott, also because the funeral will be underwater 20:38:50 i just noticed it 20:38:51 Phantom_Hoover: that's kind of a positive in my book 20:38:52 'tis the true highland way 20:38:57 don't YOU want an underwater funeral 20:39:02 «The name Kiribati is the local pronunciation of "Gilberts", derived from the main island chain, the Gilbert Islands, who in turn were named after the British explorer Thomas Gilbert» ok, that's... kind of amazing 20:39:12 aye, 'tis the true highland way 20:39:57 I need to remember a more nowhere island sometime, Kiribati has a few too many people I think. 20:40:06 The problem is they all have ridiculous names. 20:40:14 Palau? 20:40:26