< 1358208033 946233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Well, if they have a cryptography library that is standard, they should definitely have euler's totient <-- calculating euler's totient requires you to factorize, iirc < 1358208136 97706 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.50.63 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1358208237 874903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good goatkcd today < 1358208271 902095 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, it is < 1358208726 619227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Somebody should make Goat-Alt-Del" < 1358208851 584854 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that be just ctrl-alt-del < 1358209200 760167 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can you help me write a haskell function < 1358209220 89387 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358209378 967957 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/PLT_Zizek so < 1358209380 717314 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that a yes < 1358209393 724769 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: good yes i like plt_zizek < 1358209394 437730 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least < 1358209396 821119 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember liking plt_zizek < 1358209471 443226 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/PLT_Zizek/status/174508222684737536 well you see < 1358209515 383590 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1358209547 93758 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: those are precisely my interests too < 1358209572 305995 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is pretty god < 1358209573 496946 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1358209604 143812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Large parts of PLT can be explained by simple Pavlovian conditioning. Java uses objects and is painful, so objects are associated with pain.' < 1358209607 237676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes this all the time < 1358209618 33113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mysql / python threads / etc < 1358209630 153733 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also https://twitter.com/PLT_Molyneux https://twitter.com/PLTAlaindeB < 1358209638 65415 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard people say that about lisp (and long ugly paren-full arithmetic expressions) < 1358209641 607445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think PLT_Borat was the first < 1358209645 857583 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i a plt communist < 1358209653 129999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there PLT_Marx < 1358209659 403861 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/PLT_Borat < 1358209672 892977 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: apparently no < 1358209674 588317 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get to start it < 1358209684 932015 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wowowowowow < 1358209688 302853 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i googled "plt marx" Duck Soup came up, so I think that's a victory < 1358209692 346585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will make so many 'class consciousness' jokes < 1358209714 399993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc would start PLT_ebooks < 1358209728 598500 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly, enterprise fetishism is killing the proletariats < 1358209793 289047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fell in love with the first gimmick twitter account that i met who could appreciate georges bataille < 1358209818 18510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love gimmick twitter accounts < 1358209827 708887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1358209839 932739 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theory: all gimmick twitter accounts are actually run by continental philosophers < 1358209843 28358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090501163307/othertitles/images/a/ab/Let's_Run_This_Shit_Into_the_Ground.gif < 1358209874 231912 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The imagery of the novel is built upon a series of metaphors which in turn refer to philosophical constructs developed in his work: the eye, the egg, the sun, the earth, the testicle." cool < 1358209877 183586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I thought I already had? < 1358209897 655053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the actual Žižek was on Julian Assange's talk show < 1358209905 319946 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they prank called David Horowitz at home < 1358209920 811479 :Phantom_Hoover!~sploknee@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1358209991 519110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "the actual Žižek" < 1358209993 422807 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a ludicrous notion < 1358209995 895653 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-66-100.singnet.com.sg QUIT :Quit: mig22 < 1358210036 231432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote i fell in love with the first gimmick twitter account that i met who could appreciate georges bataille < 1358210039 854603 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :914) i fell in love with the first gimmick twitter account that i met who could appreciate georges bataille < 1358210093 175930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Horowitz is one crazy motherfucker < 1358210113 643637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :within a few minutes he had blamed "Democrats and the international Left" for the Iraq War < 1358210174 993638 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is his justification hilarious or just nonexistent < 1358210186 736633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember anything coherent < 1358210195 23111 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no PLT_Jesus either!! < 1358210254 830180 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Horowitz also founded the organization Students for Academic Freedom, whose self-stated goal is combating "leftist indoctrination" in academia.» good, good < 1358210284 441322 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is PLT_marx registered yet < 1358210298 936099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think so < 1358210311 567097 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're too slow < 1358210311 804278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: he was raised by communists iirc < 1358210315 649317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and helped the black panthers kill somebody < 1358210320 658380 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1358210323 800646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then kinda... made a 180° turn at speed < 1358210345 519999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: surprise i don't actually want to run a gimmick Twitter account < 1358210372 779376 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to run it? i thought you'd just set up a bot to search/replace on das kapital occasionally < 1358210393 648762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1358210429 386022 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i guess that would be PLT_Marx_ebooks, which is one of the more specialized jokes I couuld think of < 1358210435 143552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'the platitude that male sexism is keeping women from entering CS only reinforces the notion that the field belongs to men by default' < 1358210443 173860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of interesting to consider this one < 1358210445 805667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it's true though < 1358210459 437608 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's not about who the field 'belongs to', just who dominates it right now < 1358210487 831097 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's less "the platitude" and more that, whenever someone brings the topic up, a ton of guys come out of the woodwork and argue about it and don't actually let women talk < 1358210498 847334 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: plt_marx_ebooks sounds worth registering a twitter account to follow < 1358210519 155757 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, zizek is sometimes sort of... uh... bad, that way. apparently he said romani were the problem in europe or something. i'd rather just stick with listening to social scientists and activists on those subjects probably < 1358210532 217777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah < 1358210543 717149 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: does the "wants to listen to incoherent marxist anecdotes, replaced with PLT jargon" demographic exist outside of this channel < 1358210557 171982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately there are often no women around, whether they want to talk about it or not < 1358210557 410738 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: um, like, everyone in the world? < 1358210566 870286 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok granted < 1358210568 815402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not so much on the internet but in these IRL communities with serious gender bias < 1358210598 306730 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: basically it reminds me of this http://www.theonion.com/articles/man-finally-put-in-charge-of-struggling-feminist-m,2338/ < 1358210658 477730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1358210683 531133 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can see that < 1358210684 483086 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I guess I experience this a lot myself, I see discussions on the topic but they feel very uncomfortable to enter, and the few times I've tried I often get shut down < 1358210691 288360 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mostly online but still) < 1358210696 870897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1358210733 740426 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the single obligatory woman who insists that she speaks for all women and her experience is everyone else's and sexism doesn't happen in CS and hey boys do you like me yet do you like me < 1358210736 433969 :Phantom_Hoover!~sploknee@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358210738 935682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1358210739 173123 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then all the guys latch onto that and use it as "proof" < 1358210753 947775 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :self-sustaining cycle etc <_> < 1358210761 501070 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha that onion article < 1358210780 650073 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that article is. I don't know. just simultaneously completely hilarious and depressing < 1358210784 983927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good article < 1358210874 705315 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358210949 290873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, when I read say http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/White_Knighting or http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Splaining i feel basically like i must be part of the problem no matter how hard I try and so I should keep my mouth shut < 1358211013 304661 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... I guess a good start (just in general, not even sexism specifically) is to never talk over the people the discussion is about < 1358211037 264103 :Phantom_Hoover!~sploknee@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1358211037 985465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1358211051 791645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as you said, it can be really difficult and uncomfortable for those people to enter the conversation < 1358211054 219048 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if a black person says something about racial issues it's not your job to say they're wrong or disagree < 1358211056 837603 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well like you said it's not always obvious that you're doing that, like, if yeah well that. < 1358211084 129932 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially on the internet when it's not obvious who you're talking to, and in front of... < 1358211125 989240 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I think... I guess one thing is when people take up adversarial positions against " < 1358211127 753764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Why not? < 1358211138 405600 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes it uncomfortable for people of the oppressed group to enter the conversation < 1358211144 834519 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not what? < 1358211176 307094 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: basically, assuming you're not a PoC, you haven't experienced the racism a PoC has, so you can't really tell a PoC that his or her experiences are invalid. < 1358211205 150987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, telling anyone their experiences are invalid is pretty silly. < 1358211212 984814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm more concerned about situations where i'm trying to come out against racism / sexism / whatever but still come off as a privileged douchebag due to some faux pas < 1358211253 903740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there seems to be a really fine line here and it scares me and makse me want to avoid getting involved at all < 1358211274 673258 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that the fact that you're worrying about that means you're probably reasonably okay < 1358211276 503452 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same here, for what it's worth < 1358211322 590635 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i usually avoid being involved unless it's a conversation like this. I'm too nervous to say "you shouldn't talk about Arabs that way" or whatever. < 1358211326 705845 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358211381 362578 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-142-102.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358211448 184744 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of a viscious cycle equally though, since if none of the guys who are unsure of themselves say anything, the only guys who end up being in the conversation are the douchenozzles < 1358211458 99948 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are the most frustrating to talk with < 1358211464 613889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well I will just try to read more and understand more < 1358211484 232788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am kind of new to caring about this stuff at all < 1358211492 23468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's just because i'm friends with people who are cooler than me who care about it < 1358211507 707892 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well then I say things and get into arguments with people I like. oops :( < 1358211515 951966 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if that's an intrinsically dumb reason or if it's basically how most social progress happens < 1358211519 198428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or both < 1358211530 543922 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone cooler than kmc? < 1358211532 213031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean anyone? < 1358211535 140846 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BBBUUURNNNNN < 1358211551 584445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ＩＣＥ ＢＵＲＮ < 1358211578 608358 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs Bike. sorry for that :<
< 1358211589 537376 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well i don't recall any major social changes for minorities being lead by people not in those minorities, so maybe taking the sideline is appropriate < 1358211622 653388 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd just rather be the quiet white guy in the march than the guys MLK wrote Birmingham too, i guess < 1358211627 80470 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to* < 1358211679 961915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm not expecting to lead anything < 1358211709 32551 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like on a small-scale level, like with a particular community or the like, or an office, or so on < 1358211714 690569 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that making it a good environment is a responsibility of the majority < 1358211725 566732 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the minority can't really fix it in any meaningful way < 1358211729 430221 :Phantom_Hoover!~sploknee@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358211755 50203 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they sort of can, in yelling at the majority to shape up, but that's hard and the onus shouldn't be on them < 1358211764 614529 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if nobody does anything you get things like tvtropes where a steady inflow of creeps scared off everyone else who used the site < 1358211778 47351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i didn't know about that :( < 1358211780 425898 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or reddit where it started as like this cool site about programming things years ago and eventually became horrible < 1358211795 685545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair reddit isn't one community, it's thousands < 1358211801 205862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably they are mostly terrible though < 1358211815 37266 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just like, in my experience the kind of people who cause problems for communities are had to get rid of, while the people they bother are quick to leave < 1358211883 807109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i meant by "how most social progress happens" is that I think there's a distributed shift of opinion among the majority / privileged group, that occurs as a result of hard work and sacrifice by the oppressed < 1358211889 681736 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I've had a reddit account for ~2007 and I can assure you the vast majority are terrible now. < 1358211900 469115 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even read anything but /r/haskell now. < 1358211901 421930 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the thing is, like < 1358211905 578353 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes /r/programming but exclusively to laugh at idiots. < 1358211905 758403 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for society as a whole, you can't leave society < 1358211915 780153 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in a community, people who are frustrated with things just leave < 1358211919 192271 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Well, you can... < 1358211921 873602 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can try to be a better filter for ideas, rejecting the ones that are less fair and passing on the better ones < 1358211923 809933 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: tvtropes is a long boring internet drama story, but probably sort of instructive in that what happened might be summed up as the premier rule being "be nice", and having that used largely to e.g. shut down angry responses to calm neocolonial dickwads < 1358211937 300427 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also got filled with creepy pedophiles and stuff < 1358211945 260187 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the admins wouldn't do anything about it < 1358211951 602129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: :( < 1358211958 987914 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since users couldn't do anything either, the sane people slowly left < 1358211960 178438 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, stupid internet version of police shutting down protests in alabama, if that makes sense < 1358211974 354704 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (\x -> 2:scanl (+) x) < 1358211975 595860 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[a0]' with actual type `[b0] -> [a1]' < 1358211976 634019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is hard to run any group bigger than a dozen people on "be nice" < 1358211979 531283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I heard something about them trying to clean stuff up recently. < 1358211983 719071 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (\x -> 2:scanl (+) 0 x) < 1358211984 195911 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know what happened to it. < 1358211984 980830 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,0,2,2,4,6,10,16,26,42,68,110,178,288,466,754,1220,1974,3194,5168,8362,13... < 1358211991 567538 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fast eddie just decided to randomly delete pages he didn't like < 1358211997 917277 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like he deleted Lolita (later reverted) < 1358211999 828014 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what sort of sequence is this < 1358212004 533373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure why nerd groups seem to favor rule by platitudes, "be nice" or "be excellent to each other" or whatever < 1358212012 632671 :Phantom_Hoover!~sploknee@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1358212016 325890 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it double the fibonacci numbers < 1358212019 942119 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (\x -> scanl (+) 0 x) < 1358212020 658087 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :watching a lot of cartoons instead of reading Darkness at Noon? < 1358212021 176824 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,... < 1358212021 650950 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah it was kind f a mess and I probably don't want to go into all the details >_< < 1358212024 519180 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (\x -> scanl (+) 1 x) < 1358212025 946556 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096,8192,16384,32768,65536,131072,... < 1358212028 372247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clear, reasonably specific rules have a lot of advantages < 1358212032 735018 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (\x -> scanl (*2) 1 x) < 1358212033 963357 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: b0 = b0 -> b0 < 1358212038 837208 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (\x -> scanl (*) 1 x) < 1358212040 29458 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,... < 1358212041 532301 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: because you can justify anything you want if the rules are that vague? < 1358212043 474319 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (\x -> scanl (*) 3 x) < 1358212044 708570 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [3,9,81,6561,43046721,1853020188851841,3433683820292512484657849089281,1179... < 1358212046 136914 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's just like. it's really hard to fix a community after you've already scared off most everyone < 1358212057 517711 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: make a scanl for the goodstein sequence. thanks < 1358212059 6585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sure but why do the majority, who don't aspire to dictatorial power, go along? < 1358212076 414368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can understand why "be nice" is a great rule for sociopaths < 1358212083 279735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can get whatever they want while appearing nice < 1358212087 211544 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it seems pretty sensible if you haven't thought about rules much. < 1358212103 832257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of communities seem to believe that rules are just THE MAN KEEPING US DOWN < 1358212113 572635 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1358212120 208194 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: What is the goodstein sequence < 1358212131 304942 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man-down-keeping is more complicated than "the man exists", but that's an easy scapegoat. < 1358212145 234341 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there seems to be a thing where the more set-in-stone the rules are the more people are able to weasel their way around them < 1358212152 339299 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: try wikipedia. (it grows fast) < 1358212156 760193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: hm, that's true < 1358212165 94886 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I know some friends who used to hang around GITP and they said it had exactly that problem, that people would take advantage of the rules to get other people hit by mods < 1358212172 304650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well have you noticed that most nerds are terrible < 1358212173 259929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's GITP? < 1358212182 30302 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :giant int he playground, some webcomic/gaming forum thing < 1358212187 253011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i've noticed that most of everything is terrible, do you think we could derive it from that < 1358212190 853918 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that said plenty of nerds do like involved detailed rules! < 1358212194 698457 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf. wikipedia < 1358212195 174153 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :compare to like, somethingawful, where the rules are pretty vague and the mods will ban people for being dumb < 1358212204 540374 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is also unimaginably terrible < 1358212204 781931 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and people who try to weasel the rules will get banned more for weaseling the rules < 1358212210 160038 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think SA's community is functional? < 1358212212 345199 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that's why it's important (i think) to keep the human element in, like how court cases are ruled by judges and juries who, ideally, hear enough about the case to make an informed decision - rather than robotic "enforcement" < 1358212214 947772 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seemed pretty good when I was hanging out there < 1358212219 81418 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure, but it seems vaguely okay < 1358212223 463293 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not part of it but I know people who are < 1358212224 468396 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's essentially a dictatorial oligopoly < 1358212231 820151 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's pretty functional as internet communities go, so not that functional but reasonable < 1358212239 577877 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's fine given that they are not responsible for anyone's livelihood (well...) < 1358212240 570380 :Phantom_Hoover!~sploknee@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358212247 854563 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a lot of terrible people but the mods seem to utterly revel in banning them < 1358212267 701484 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they actually are sometimes. They've banned this guy three or four times who ended up in Libya and Syria getting shot at. (tangent) < 1358212275 306612 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'm not writing that function < 1358212284 394168 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: weeeeeak < 1358212291 712325 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You do it < 1358212297 819993 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really a pretty brilliant business model, they must have made thousands and thousands of dollars off like, horrible MRAs who keep re-registering and getting banned again < 1358212305 431213 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1358212318 44978 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though if you do something truly awful they will perma-ban you and try to prevent you from evading < 1358212325 94486 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think someone tallied it up once and Ironic War Criminal had dropped like four hundred dollars on the placew < 1358212329 754959 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :place < 1358212357 690311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people also put money in intentionally < 1358212361 642340 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a semi-effective way of assigning consequences to actions, i think, and that sort of doesn't happen on a lot of the internet < 1358212361 822446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :post BAN ME threads etc < 1358212376 48068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :get banned due to Toxx clause < 1358212383 841279 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :toxxing makes no damn sense < 1358212390 202399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it... the best < 1358212397 350973 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I've never understood that, it's this weird egotistical thing < 1358212401 987514 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it makes lowtax tons of money? < 1358212403 336764 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST < 1358212407 120427 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :just sayin'. < 1358212407 596789 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's definitely the best. just to watch people accidentally toxx themselves for both Ron Paul and Obama. < 1358212452 285187 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i think my favorite thing there was the guy accidentally posting in the third party candidate thread, and weaseling out of it by picking a third party in NY that nominated Obama. < 1358212463 501936 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly this is remotely more on topic to rule-following?? < 1358212537 664113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1358212547 520165 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you still have hang-ops about off-topic chat in #esoteric? < 1358212557 420038 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :total newbei < 1358212559 600917 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, newbie < 1358212566 769170 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: haha, I mean, I'd rather talk about rules than about SA trivia < 1358212609 695891 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly this leads into an esolang based on vehmic courts? i dunno < 1358212666 985958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang based on bicycles < 1358212674 925437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bicycle day < 1358212689 157421 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like taxi < 1358212689 700954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but eco < 1358212768 731032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ero < 1358212933 719748 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358212978 681710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Hatoful Boyfriend is an otome visual novel/dating sim created by Hato Moa that features pigeons as characters rather than the more common human anime characters.' < 1358212986 144087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right, a dating sim where you date pigeons < 1358213008 318031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in post-apocalyptic japan < 1358213010 43920 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora, wasn't there a pun in "hato moa" somewhere? < 1358213020 579485 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hato" means pigeon < 1358213023 814273 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "hatoful boyfriend" is a pun < 1358213025 798545 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a moa is a bird < 1358213028 493972 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hato moa is another pun < 1358213038 285586 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep < 1358213038 761975 :Phantom_Hoover!~sploknee@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, isn't that the one with the horrifying murder ending < 1358213049 512815 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if you romance the good doctor. < 1358213052 392459 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's sort of a silly gimmick game, it's not serious < 1358213063 708614 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a "look I can make a dating sim with pigeons!" game < 1358213065 237069 :Phantom_Hoover!~sploknee@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, horrifying murder endings are serious! < 1358213074 503596 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main character is a hunter gatherer anyway, presumably they are used to murder and being murdered < 1358213089 96984 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is pretty hilarious XD < 1358213117 517042 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1358213119 800073 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i figured as much < 1358213142 342714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i like pigeons too much < 1358213146 452074 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358213149 190190 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358213164 479623 :Phantom_Hoover!~sploknee@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, could you perhaps be called a pigeon fancier < 1358213167 725772 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some pretty ridiculous professionally made ones though < 1358213175 980344 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358213177 723369 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you sure it's not serious? they came up with a whole backstory to justify sapient pigeons < 1358213180 904146 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1358213183 484997 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1358213202 7014 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote maybe i like pigeons too much < 1358213204 702018 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1358213205 301835 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :915) maybe i like pigeons too much < 1358213220 966728 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the one where world leaders are genderswapped and turned into bishoujo characters and you date them or something < 1358213238 168040 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :including obama and putin < 1358213239 972347 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard the manga of Das Kapital is actually pretty good. < 1358213242 193006 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358213262 275301 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I've heard the manga of Das Kapital is actually pretty good. < 1358213264 518490 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's add lots of quotes day < 1358213265 418963 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :916) I've heard the manga of Das Kapital is actually pretty good. < 1358213268 932028 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358213308 714954 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://danbooru.donmai.us/pool/show/1805 <-- this is a doujinshi that tells the story of the communist revolution in russia and china (and the cultural revolution) < 1358213325 133961 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Time to sleep < 1358213331 117567 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has lin biao and mao and everything < 1358213340 299296 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's not the one by kago < 1358213346 393631 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sonohara.donmai.us/data/fb46e9e8cc39d20f88867d5f4909b29a.jpg < 1358213354 464517 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the one with the "criticize Ran campaign" ("criticize Lin campaign") < 1358213375 620588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Is it double the fibonacci numbers <-- yes, starting at index -1 < 1358213482 224447 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"why did you wind up here, lady patchuli?" "for criticizing sakuya" "how about you?" "for supporting miss sakuya" "and you?" "I am sakuya" < 1358213509 807066 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was... wait what happened in 1953 I am bad at history < 1358213515 720997 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Death of stalin, right! < 1358213530 995633 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sino-soviet split was before that right < 1358213542 731927 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, wait, that's way too early... < 1358213551 969036 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that was later I think? < 1358213565 920968 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prc wasn't really off the ground in 1953 anyway < 1358213591 227124 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that makes sakuya laverentiy beria < 1358213617 118676 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would probably terrify me if i knew who sakuya was? or something. < 1358213620 789177 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Can you figure out this class for me? < 1358213633 362577 :Phantom_Hoover!~sploknee@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358213717 159032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubtful < 1358213745 918500 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358213784 534983 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :( < 1358213785 834128 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are terrible < 1358213801 806418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You should start a Haskell blog and call it mainisusuallyanioaction < 1358213873 434071 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358214221 899739 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358214522 183741 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :womp womp < 1358214622 509696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that kmc's way of telling about smbc updates? < 1358214656 755032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm apparently that's a phrase < 1358214700 720668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like http://www.sadtrombone.com/ < 1358214708 67155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it have to do with smbc? < 1358214724 973160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy a new twitter follower < 1358214729 648250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it me < 1358214742 557069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be. < 1358214746 488229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah < 1358214751 594288 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a spam bot < 1358214760 617066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twitter sends me emails from n-punpuns=...twitter.com < 1358214763 848452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, funpuns < 1358214819 258309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe < 1358214917 748107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my sauerkraut tastes like iron < 1358214976 12486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/funpuns # shachaf < 1358214990 415077 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: amazing twitter account must see ^ < 1358214990 730082 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ................................................ < 1358214999 556578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who did this < 1358215003 590512 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its so good < 1358215010 53130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least 17.5x better than any twitter account you could make < 1358215035 145710 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good twitter < 1358215040 376561 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf this is brilliant how did you come up with this < 1358215070 328467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1358215075 894508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this "your doing" < 1358215193 559603 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what's your preferred commenting method in irc lines < 1358215197 987404 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to use ;; a lot < 1358215203 926992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I use -- I think < 1358215207 535571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you mean < 1358215216 515181 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in when you want to comment something out on an IRC line < 1358215227 710374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/search?q=%23funpuns < 1358215227 880186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance to annotate a URL or respond to a quoted message that might otherwise be confusing to simply follow with text < 1358215232 946074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"its a phenomenon" < 1358215238 499273 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C1,1 < 1358215243 390731 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: blah blah < 1358215248 14991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"symmetric" < 1358215254 753357 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358215264 281704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :xml-irc pun < 1358215265 376174 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what's that ......... < 1358215269 953891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,1 hi < 1358215270 296440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that  < 1358215271 962960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that  < 1358215273 315076 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELP < 1358215274 871186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1358215276 942451 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that 1,1 < 1358215279 164348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,1uhh < 1358215280 304695 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,1 < 1358215282 75104 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :augh < 1358215283 276093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,1uhh what's this < 1358215286 729308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,1help < 1358215292 966212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4,4monqy < 1358215294 525361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how did you get that C < 1358215297 848115 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo it didn't work < 1358215300 500342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C < 1358215300 976450 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that inverted C < 1358215302 409766 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1358215302 700529 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1358215307 439296 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with reverse video < 1358215310 243652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how did you get that I? < 1358215312 269640 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the "key combo" again < 1358215314 853476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: < 1358215316 501161 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^V < 1358215316 986145 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^V, in irssi < 1358215322 213340 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :videot < 1358215331 23907 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fjfj < 1358215332 53106 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1358215334 748172 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ^V^V for me < 1358215339 997347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1358215343 154461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you use "screen/tmux" < 1358215377 912948 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i have bind on escape_char < 1358215384 640412 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, i have ^V on that. why do i have ^V on that < 1358215401 648901 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, I rebound ^V in irssi < 1358215402 603198 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use dtach < 1358215405 282258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :escape from monqy island < 1358215422 566951 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Escape was the worst Monkey Island game by a large margin. < 1358215422 746571 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :????????? < 1358215427 351356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : what does it have to do with smbc? <-- only place i've seen the phrase before < 1358215455 549229 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :herrrrr < 1358215457 803440 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah there we go. < 1358215458 374157 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358215492 373744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1358215494 693512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1358215503 944360 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is V =  < 1358215514 176595 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1358215517 737094 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. dumb. < 1358215530 525099 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what did you bind ^V to < 1358215539 184396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:05:34 ^V escape_char < 1358215562 404831 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more important than escapes imo < 1358215571 550274 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: escapes are useful! < 1358215579 733789 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have escape on ^Q because ~emacs~ < 1358215581 729907 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: thank you for putting up with my questions / rambling earlier, by the way < 1358215587 770943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: pfft emacs < 1358215610 646339 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but seriously if you delete the binding you'll be able to reverse video in one keystroke < 1358215639 944543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: reverse video is a tool to be used lightly < 1358215657 974123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1358215662 345697 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :9,7blasphemer < 1358215707 13122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :owwwww < 1358215719 974735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the little blasphemer < 1358215725 777681 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cool thing is you can pick any two numbers and it looks hideous, you don't even need to remember anything. < 1358215735 266387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You should use _The Little Schemer_ in your class! < 1358215741 223193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe _The Little Prince_ < 1358215748 177510 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or both. use both < 1358215748 429342 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: jeez, I enjoy talking with you, don't worry about it < 1358215763 527946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Ha! < 1358215767 173346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay :) < 1358215768 125272 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea that anyone would enjoy talking with kmc < 1358215768 919266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How come nobody has read _The Little Prince_ despite it being one of the most famous books ever. :-( < 1358215778 877170 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome kmc < 1358215781 99544 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1358215782 86889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think up to several people have read it shachaf < 1358215784 27374 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who hasn't? i have < 1358215786 923227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've read The Reasoned Schemer < 1358215789 302876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's p. good < 1358215795 475234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Internet people don't count.......................... < 1358215796 971231 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm even barely aware that there's a latin version of it < 1358215833 660633 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358215857 875349 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, how absurd < 1358215885 995673 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/enjoying/ talking to a smart and cool person like that, pfff. what a joker we are. < 1358215895 207025 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're multiple people??? < 1358215933 587174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just king of IRC. < 1358215939 231113 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... grammar. i am bad at it < 1358215959 782074 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: ha! now you're implying kmc is smart *and* cool < 1358215968 113986 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PoppaVic is talking now, btw. < 1358215970 836567 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gag of the century < 1358215984 299185 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be sure to observe his interactions with beaky < 1358215988 131661 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(let's see if we can make him flustered here) < 1358216066 233588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is PoppaVic another pseudotroll? < 1358216072 699899 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. < 1358216076 337627 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's elliott's friend. < 1358216083 11288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :frelliott < 1358216088 859626 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliend? < 1358216095 502988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :write that down in your notebooks now. < 1358216157 809699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do they really call them copybooks in .uk......................... < 1358216169 605806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because that doesn't make any sense) < 1358216177 322805 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: bike literally convinced me to join this channel by linking me to the jit spraying post I think < 1358216181 306487 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I remember right < 1358216190 447073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I remember. < 1358216196 670924 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: see, and you said main is usually an IO action. for shame. < 1358216213 652134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :el-Iott < 1358216237 977803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sir elliott of hexham < 1358216252 512953 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it's true, people come from all across the globe to #esoteric to gawk at crackpots like itidus20 and oerjan andkmc! < 1358216257 15091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :andkmc < 1358216260 109970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliott Hagastaldunum < 1358216262 60362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparentlykmc's name starts with a backspace < 1358216263 796382 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it! < 1358216266 585154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't sure what's with the thing where elliott constantly insults people.
< 1358216274 422624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that would be great < 1358216279 252609 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott hastalavista < 1358216280 809138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's just you < 1358216281 46568 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does kmc really count as a "people"?? < 1358216282 356963 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and kmc < 1358216291 198397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainly kmc < 1358216295 17339 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*andkmc < 1358216295 963281 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mainlykmc < 1358216298 117963 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's almost as good as naming your kid \x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90 < 1358216318 39582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It would probably be better if you didn't. < 1358216319 164218 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like...the string with backslashes, or... the characters that resolves to.. or... < 1358216334 77002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you know that in intuitionistic logic a linear ordering is stronger than a total ordering? < 1358216338 723870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I mentioned that in here the other day. < 1358216340 649428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you mentioned it < 1358216342 419612 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did. < 1358216344 280367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't totally understand < 1358216352 594592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: gotta keep up my reputation < 1358216353 549605 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because intuitionists are sailors, and knots also. < 1358216365 95544 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: in the future, 15 people will be famous < 1358216366 523145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, I mentioned it and made that pun. < 1358216413 147009 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the more I insult kmc the more my own power grows < 1358216419 437791 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I said it was because of that whole equality computability thing thingie, probably because i'd been reading andrej posts and sobbing. < 1358216420 150746 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon your hair will be orange < 1358216421 632800 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't be long before I can take over the universe < 1358216426 290548 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1358216588 912363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you use amazon's recommendation engine to answer questions of the form "I know this other person likes X and Y, what thing Z should I get for them" < 1358216592 725999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :short of buying X and Y yourself? < 1358216609 609676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazon elastic birthday service < 1358216612 336853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Open a fresh browser session, browse to X and Y? < 1358216624 790944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they use what things you look at to recommend more things. < 1358216626 452540 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't checked but i'd imagine you can, try looking for "gift" in menus? < 1358216640 547944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By fresh I mean no cookies, of course. < 1358216646 358495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sounds like effort < 1358216648 990507 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but okay, if you insist < 1358216683 741990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it recommends i buy: hard drives, psychedelic rock, underwear < 1358216684 939913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for myself < 1358216691 690333 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the world is going to direct its efforts towards very efficiently convincing me to buy useless crap, i may as well play along a bit < 1358216693 604454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty good actually < 1358216716 994289 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i get mostly knuth and kerouac. 2spooky < 1358216727 487184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :psychedelic rock? < 1358216729 795560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also recommends the tv show i am already watching (pirated) in another window < 1358216730 984043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's a kind of music < 1358216745 548795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, amazon doesn't sell the other kind of psychedelic rock < 1358216767 660166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a big crystal of pure DMT < 1358216767 840296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I find out what it recommends for me? < 1358216774 924186 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? can you not buy radioactive materials any more < 1358216777 849569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can click "your recommendations" in the menu < 1358216797 812648 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if anyone ever bought the badonkadonk < 1358216800 492076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1358216805 196653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of Raymond Smullyan. < 1358216825 669435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, uh, some stupid things. < 1358216833 710338 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, do tell. < 1358216833 948876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And candy cigarettes. < 1358216841 131934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought a big box of candy cigarettes once. < 1358216846 875382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By candy I mean chewing gum. < 1358216908 43265 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love amazon < 1358216950 671666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love snowclone < 1358216952 633196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so easy < 1358216995 122691 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :word always just makes me think of how inuits don't actually have a billion words for snow (in the banal sense) < 1358217003 182796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah well i bought this once: http://mcphee.com/shop/donkey-cigarette-dispenser.html < 1358217044 625525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You, uh, win? < 1358217049 147337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i am not a crackpot! you will regret saying that when i put you through my regretinator! < 1358217050 625930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can't compete
< 1358217083 36882 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do I dare ask why < 1358217101 454053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* shachaf isn't sure what's with the thing where elliott constantly insults people. <-- and gets away with it, too! < 1358217110 411515 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i was in college man < 1358217117 353531 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it weren't for you meddlerjans < 1358217134 910291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meddlerjans would be a good name for an all-drunk hillbilly band < 1358217135 782336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should be in college :'( < 1358217144 125284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much college have u had shachaf < 1358217167 65068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could work for google, that's like being in college except that they pay you a ton of money and they put a chip in your brain < 1358217184 38694 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you didn't get chipped in college? < 1358217196 578407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think they reuse the high school chip. < 1358217244 413426 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ok. < 1358217454 485715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they thought they could chip me, but i just operated on myself to insert a small farafay cage around the chip. checkmate educationists! < 1358217465 608389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*faraday < 1358217510 260768 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :farafay should be a delicious pseudoitalian breakfast < 1358217539 452502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ay isn't much used in italian, i should think. < 1358217623 297773 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad < 1358217840 684644 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good morning! welcome to america! < 1358217907 904835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1 < 1358218166 782394 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: What brought *you* here, anyway? < 1358218355 523834 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... don't remember. < 1358218366 785458 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we already talked about this and the answer wassomething about Sgeo? < 1358218441 183886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has squinting disease < 1358218460 573235 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon he'll start to see jesus on toast?? < 1358218467 309935 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1358218478 754091 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1358218485 37379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello Bike < 1358218639 168937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am totally immune to seeing jesus on toast. < 1358218648 219283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because i never eat toast. < 1358218663 955053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is that because you don't want to eat Jesus? < 1358218668 346117 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're *supposed* to do that. < 1358218670 728102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something? < 1358218731 268496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's more likely because i don't have a toaster. < 1358218771 937011 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's lots of toast without toaster < 1358218784 67378 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you don't have a toaster??? < 1358218800 576189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: people in scandinavia don't have toasters....... < 1358218802 803350 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :broiler toast, french toast < 1358218849 821570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: have you been to scandinavia < 1358218855 916878 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1358219258 169016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm "never" might be an exaggeration, there might be toast in some of those breakfast meals you can get in restaurants. never saw any jesus, though. < 1358219281 491748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i eat those often. < 1358219292 322503 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the plural is "jesii" < 1358219324 204652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i somewhat doubt that. < 1358219350 373619 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in the common translation of the infancy gospel of pseudo-matthew. lookitup < 1358219570 140727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus is ridiculously irregular in latin, but it's sort of a -u stem, which means -ii would be a very unlikely suffix < 1358219633 782087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus is so easy < 1358219655 32672 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: this is totally aramaic though < 1358219744 673236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so let me see if i get this: the "is so easy" meme is a reference to this beaky guy on #haskell, right? < 1358219765 591429 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming by meme you mean whatever shachaf's doing, yes < 1358219780 927592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. a pseudo-meme. < 1358219791 732659 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pseme < 1358219821 319717 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Did you see "the beaky logs". < 1358219825 810475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1358219854 863684 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That movie sucked. < 1358219857 723698 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the saga of beaky < 1358219893 961773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://slbkbs.org/beaky.txt < 1358219903 8860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the beaky code < 1358219906 189529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :after your aramaic irrelevance i shouldn't have bothered to check, but http://www.gnosis.org/library/psudomat.htm contains no "jesii". < 1358219908 350227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 beaky 2 furious < 1358219969 459295 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358219998 484603 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it true that Haskell makes you go through lots of hoops to accomplish practical things? <-- is this the "lisp is good for AI? also slow??" of haskell? < 1358220068 854631 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" what's haskell's equivalent of nil, or NULL, or None, or whatever the most empty object is?" ugh why do these things get linked to me, i can never stop. < 1358220094 511022 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you realise bike was joking btw < 1358220126 152108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you search for "love" < 1358220129 245729 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike_: I hear you can't do side-effects in IO because of monads, etc. < 1358220133 650513 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1358220138 492710 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1358220171 764802 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, and that's how i got to the design patterns bit. and i just got to it again. thankschaf (this is sarcastic. in reality, nothankschaf.) < 1358220191 993545 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION loves searching for "love"
< 1358220238 978826 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"typeception" < 1358220245 83073 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't those jokes super old yet......... < 1358220272 37114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sure i suspected it but i couldn't resist seeing if pseudo-matthew was a genuine term < 1358220286 434063 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is. < 1358220306 268850 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually do like all those old wayside religious things, i just also like dicking around. < 1358220327 463728 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what's real analysis?" help me shachaf < 1358220346 44424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it is so easy < 1358220363 604009 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf don't you think we've had enough of love&ease by now.... < 1358220390 9205 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i searched for "lisp". that was a bad plan < 1358220408 71129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Don't you think ew've had enough of more than three dots in a row by now? < 1358220465 732190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:51:26 zardoz? < 1358220476 116159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was kmc but it turned out to be Jafet. < 1358220509 577440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zardoz! < 1358220544 151583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: haskell/12.12.18:04:52:19 paul graham said that lisp is the most powerful language, and that all other languages are blub < 1358220555 346171 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. nooooo < 1358220581 34211 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually "most powerful language" sounds like it should be associated with zardoz < 1358220635 193903 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the blub is evil,the lisp is good < 1358220906 494025 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-194-144.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1358221015 636831 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358221146 139357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1358221308 230922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow The Atlantic is running sponsored Scientology articles now < 1358221353 161562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theatlantic.com/sponsored/scientology/archive/2013/01/david-miscavige-leads-scientology-to-milestone-year-/266958/ < 1358221363 834057 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you say "sponsored", do you mean like a literal sponsorship or- oh, i guess that answers that. < 1358221411 49246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a full page ad that looks like an article < 1358221415 943166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is about how great scientology is < 1358221455 292959 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :full page ad in a newspaper. that's old school. < 1358221492 645669 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1358221522 964360 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man are they doing the "fastest growing religion" thing too? < 1358221551 885280 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I'm getting out of this is mostly that they got their design sense from Stargate SG-1. < 1358221555 851222 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if its growing fast that means i should believe in it right < 1358221618 149273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i was just thinking the first image looked so scifi < 1358221632 917233 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one time i knew someone for months (online) and it turns out they were a scientologist :/ < 1358221636 712856 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i stopped talking to them < 1358221665 720633 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an old guard guy on a site i used to use turned out to have been a scientologist and even worked on one of them ships once < 1358221672 10100 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i forget scientology isn't an elaborate joke < 1358221677 143672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1358221685 386731 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most of them aren't in on it < 1358221689 57979 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Seems like David Miscavige and Scientology are on a roll. Also it appears the media have been missing the real story." < 1358221693 741826 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: in the present or the past < 1358221700 886754 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the past < 1358221709 198061 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankfully i didn't really know him < 1358221719 821023 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not so bad if they left right < 1358221748 517564 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I mean, they were still a scientologist. < 1358221776 199330 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so i looked at the comments and clicked on a profile of one of the obvious shills and that was a bad idea. < 1358221818 738438 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so by in the past you meant in the present < 1358221820 669838 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now your thetans are going crazy < 1358221822 936877 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy link < 1358221882 516659 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically he compares things to "Stalin's Russia" a lot. < 1358221917 351835 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to link to the user. "sorry" < 1358221961 938493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently MIT's student newspaper signed a similar deal with the devil after their staff embezzled their whole bank account < 1358221964 871894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1358221967 823726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's what happened to the atlantic < 1358221974 86614 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1358221986 868209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Church of Scientology Orange County, standing just miles from Anaheim's famed "Magic Kingdom," < 1358222011 705904 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what did they do? < 1358222165 399258 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :paid articles... from yale < 1358222770 656018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the top picture on that article is... < 1358222779 208678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like bad CGI from a bad sci fi film < 1358222783 746280 :neologic!~neo@190.11.138.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358222796 214703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome neologic < 1358222797 720824 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :neologic: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1358222923 612688 :neologic!~neo@190.11.138.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello ppl < 1358222964 919103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bid quiet here now < 1358222965 632885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcoerjan < 1358222966 822804 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: welcoerjan: not found < 1358222968 22031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a bit < 1358222976 48607 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1358222978 697974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'welcome oerjan' > bin/welcoerjan; chmod +x bin/welcoerjan < 1358222981 259120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1358222982 7074 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358222990 132675 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcørjan < 1358222991 398099 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: welcørjan: not found < 1358223014 975768 :neologic!~neo@190.11.138.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why esoteric programming language? < 1358223023 105775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcoerjan < 1358223024 772886 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1358223024 953281 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's not there. < 1358223057 868232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :velcroerjan < 1358223171 494173 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :neologic: good question < 1358223187 687314 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/welcoerjan < 1358223191 31701 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358223242 331355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (( )*S):((because)~^(it's)~^(there)~^)^ < 1358223242 844334 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's ...out of stack! < 1358223246 90344 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1358223249 797247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum < 1358223253 932153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (( )*S:):((because)~^(it's)~^(there)~^)^ < 1358223254 408261 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's there < 1358223282 134193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why esoteric programming language: because it's ...out of stack! < 1358223287 153474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot knows all. < 1358223287 664048 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you are correct. there's no freedom for free. < 1358223294 387757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1358223295 856447 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? \ @ \ ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ \ addquote \ allquotes \ anonlog \ botsnack \ calc \ define \ delquote \ emoclew \ etymology \ forget \ fortune \ frink \ google \ hatesgeo \ interp \ joustreport \ jousturl \ json \ karma \ karma- \ karma+ \ learn \ list \ lists \ log \ logurl \ lua \ luac \ luarocks \ luarocks-admin \ macro \ makelist \ maketext \ < 1358223364 108878 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358223403 91934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW THAT < 1358223403 841922 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not sure if you want to *stop* looping. there is a function call and been faster. :p yesterday i had a problem < 1358223422 717453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: so you are saying i am going in circles? < 1358223423 654727 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you mean it is a concrete example of what would be your customer? < 1358223430 967621 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote fungot knows all. oerjan: you are correct. there's no freedom for free. < 1358223432 156720 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: other than not being done by plt folks?) fnord combination to denmark, iirc. not sure it's simply a matter of orthography, not syntax < 1358223435 169785 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :917) fungot knows all. oerjan: you are correct. there's no freedom for free. < 1358223547 358343 :neologic!~neo@190.11.138.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[hackego] there are elements of this lang im suppose... < 1358223639 65919 :neologic!~neo@190.11.138.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma+??? < 1358223650 570979 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma++ < 1358223707 676435 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego is a strong believer in balance and karma < 1358223724 658310 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is hackego the karma police < 1358223742 103459 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be a stretch, but you could say that < 1358223875 306945 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma police police police karma police?? < 1358223955 315588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :neologic: this channel isn't about just one esoteric programming language. HackEgo is a bot which anyone can make commands for. < 1358223968 833742 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as aptly demonstrated by helloerjan < 1358223990 906004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's EgoBot which has a lot of esoteric languages, originally, although there are plans to merge the two bots < 1358224016 960057 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :typed befunge? < 1358224017 434194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/karma+ < 1358224018 625313 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo "$1 now has $(($(lib/karma "$1")+1)) karma." | tee karma < 1358224029 557 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My basketball team is the most stealing in total, so they should be called Thief! But, they aren't called that, because I didn't know that at first. < 1358224045 16270 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You should rename them. < 1358224070 777748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i ... don't think anyone has tried making that? < 1358224100 814178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not succeeded. < 1358224114 294630 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :neologic, you have your mission. < 1358224134 752734 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to rename it. That will cost a lot of money and fame. < 1358224168 147706 :neologic!~neo@190.11.138.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mission... < 1358224233 223432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat lib/karma < 1358224234 221347 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ count () { \ hg log --template '{desc}\n' | \ egrep '<[^]]*> karma\'$1 | \ fgrep -vix "<$2> karma$1 $2" | \ cut -d' ' -f3 | \ fgrep -cix "$2" \ } \ plus=$(count + "$1") \ minus=$(count - "$1") \ echo $(($plus-$minus)) < 1358224258 350222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1358224387 590785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma+ karma < 1358224396 743830 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma now has 1 karma. < 1358224401 860012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma+ karma < 1358224410 412000 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma now has 2 karma. < 1358224413 836141 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma karma < 1358224414 20212 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma has a karma of 4 < 1358224418 55147 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chameleooooon < 1358224432 230745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, so it is! < 1358224437 696241 :neologic!~neo@190.11.138.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1358224466 518354 :neologic!~neo@190.11.138.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358224495 277474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that thing actually grepping the entire logs each time to calculate karma? < 1358224533 477736 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/karma < 1358224535 155224 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo "$1 has $(lib/karma "$1") karma." < 1358224545 89833 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat lib/karma < 1358224547 395427 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ count () { \ hg log --template '{desc}\n' | \ egrep '<[^]]*> karma\'$1 | \ fgrep -vix "<$2> karma$1 $2" | \ cut -d' ' -f3 | \ fgrep -cix "$2" \ } \ plus=$(count + "$1") \ minus=$(count - "$1") \ echo $(($plus-$minus)) < 1358224559 255323 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358224566 860882 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls karma < 1358224568 557777 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma < 1358224571 343583 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma < 1358224578 497764 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chameeeeeleoooooon < 1358224578 735065 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358224585 967050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wc karma < 1358224586 448511 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358224596 387037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1358224605 471800 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how rude. < 1358224637 308556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it was karma. < 1358224670 706635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma+ java < 1358224670 887186 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf's karma lowered to 26. < 1358224700 680526 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma java < 1358224700 955650 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :java has a karma of -1 < 1358224713 578606 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if i < 1358224714 293211 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma- java < 1358224714 567943 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :java's karma lowered to -2. < 1358224725 105151 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1358224727 255418 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whoa" < 1358224753 213176 :neologic!~neo@190.11.138.5 PART :#esoteric < 1358224793 554556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((shachaf-- )S)(::::****):*^^ < 1358224793 886345 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- shachaf-- < 1358224799 836852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma shachaf < 1358224800 17679 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf has a karma of 1 < 1358224802 819546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoerjan < 1358224827 877800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you looked like you needed some help there < 1358224860 592182 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want in on this karma action < 1358224862 524747 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma+ java < 1358224862 704382 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy's karma lowered to 12. < 1358224885 504045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (monqy-- )(::::****):*^S < 1358224885 780643 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- monqy-- < 1358224891 428375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma monqy < 1358224891 609331 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy has a karma of -13 < 1358224898 662894 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan..............................no.. < 1358224899 174617 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :best karma?? imo yes < 1358224911 896801 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: imo no < 1358224919 392286 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imnsvho < 1358224925 674152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :java++ < 1358224926 56650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma java < 1358224926 236367 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :java has a karma of -2 < 1358224926 898283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELP < 1358224927 849640 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma < 1358224928 30130 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a karma of 33 < 1358224930 522176 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1358224967 268433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooliott < 1358224973 475731 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oops did i miss an l' < 1358226234 66902 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I `list if I'm hours late? < 1358226312 138771 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1358226319 656595 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it count as me beating you if you didn't :P < 1358226322 550852 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, no < 1358226389 636020 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1358226397 265589 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1358226418 395034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1358226473 686585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://boingboing.net/2013/01/14/dread-cthulhu-leads-his-cult-t.html < 1358226499 745542 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should have just kept the original symbols in the picture < 1358226550 272411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't see an update... < 1358226569 572324 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is indeed an update < 1358226584 364534 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that they kept "ideal orgs" though < 1358226623 375024 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also casually dropped in Marsh. < 1358226745 743741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think org stands for orgies, right? < 1358226753 64120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1358226770 2752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does oerj stand for? < 1358226781 187893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1358226788 503498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we will never know. < 1358227057 398080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh noerjan < 1358227598 939523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We have temporarily suspended this advertising campaign pending a review of our policies that govern sponsor content and subsequent comment threads." < 1358227735 557969 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, they noticed the shills? < 1358227751 590261 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1358228083 326824 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-142-102.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1358228984 72991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t in < 1358228985 263395 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `in' < 1358229002 638925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t out < 1358229004 64651 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mu t -> t (Mu t) < 1358229015 572299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0`out`) < 1358229017 478127 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : The operator `L.out' [infixl 9] of a section < 1358229017 657073 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : must have lower precedenc... < 1358229032 24473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1358229042 95865 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t shakeItAllAbout < 1358229043 323993 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `shakeItAllAbout' < 1358229049 785308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0-) < 1358229050 805115 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : The operator `GHC.Num.-' [infixl 6] of a section < 1358229050 984844 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : must have lower prece... < 1358229065 247437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t doTheHokeyCokey < 1358229066 445160 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `doTheHokeyCokey' < 1358229069 598507 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t turnAround < 1358229070 553849 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `turnAround' < 1358229077 232956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it L. rather than the actual module name < 1358229084 944646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the actual module name. < 1358229087 676403 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t L.out < 1358229088 629379 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mu t -> t (Mu t) < 1358229092 210515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :L.hs < 1358229101 279877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1358229107 32320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: lambdabot has a lens implementation????? < 1358229118 725194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :L.hs must be the final form of lenses. < 1358229118 962231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1358229140 483873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0`In`) < 1358229141 950746 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : The operator `L.In' [infixl 9] of a section < 1358229142 130508 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : must have lower precedence... < 1358230029 458565 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-143.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1358230029 678500 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-143.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1358230029 678661 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1358231145 516798 :fizzien!~fis@dhcp-85-232.eduroam.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1358231215 124105 :fizzien!~fis@dhcp-85-232.eduroam.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally managed to bother getting this eduroam thing working, just checking what kind of an address I got. < 1358231225 643835 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eduroam.hut.fi < 1358231230 728014 :fizzien!~fis@dhcp-85-232.eduroam.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like a boring. < 1358231243 617329 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :eduroam is pretty awesome < 1358231247 751868 :fizzien!~fis@dhcp-85-232.eduroam.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also outdated, there are no huts left. < 1358231273 905263 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the thing where you get free wifi at any school, yeah? < 1358231281 380484 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1358231296 956066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love free wifi < 1358231299 810603 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1358231314 61880 :fizzien!~fis@dhcp-85-232.eduroam.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "pan-European". < 1358231322 13930 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we all do, shachaf. wadchaf. < 1358231352 650681 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzien: it's beyond that < 1358231367 316518 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, mark your calendars < 1358231370 936502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :McDonald's has pan-European free WiFi < 1358231373 180240 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :friday is the 10th anniversary of logs < 1358231384 150677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"logs: not just trees anymore" < 1358231389 8495 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yarrrr < 1358231389 188648 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the END for you, you gutter-crawling cur! < 1358231398 866079 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway that is pretty cool < 1358231534 230377 :fizzien!~fis@dhcp-85-232.eduroam.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says pan-European on the local eduroam instructions page. But that might well be outdated too. < 1358231625 623557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/fGBV3.jpg < 1358231751 952502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Are those two different ℳs? < 1358231843 590294 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, that does not display right here < 1358231857 127457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :same mcdonald's < 1358231913 210195 :fizzien!~fis@dhcp-85-232.eduroam.hut.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358231926 724260 :fizzien!~fis@dhcp-85-232.eduroam.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1358232227 881964 :fizzien!~fis@dhcp-85-232.eduroam.hut.fi QUIT :Quit: . < 1358232845 566554 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@dsl-olubrasgw2-58c0c6-161.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1358233406 298668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia claims that Iran had a McDonald's for two days in 1994 < 1358233420 421672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://www.datapointed.net/2010/10/the-farthest-place-from-mcdonalds-lower-48-states/ < 1358233436 719054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i realized i was having two separate conversations with two groups of people, both about McDonald's < 1358233441 479346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that fact disturbed me < 1358233446 147358 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds pretty sad yeah < 1358233453 311834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :were they 5 meters apart? < 1358233457 478312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, 25 < 1358233477 815849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1358233494 803324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1358233551 751845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither the two conversations nor the two days in 1994 were 25 meters apart < 1358233596 421455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be very unusual if two days were only 25 meters apart, they should be more than 10^13 meters apart < 1358233666 479169 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/the-6-best-dresses-at-the-golden-globes,30897/ < 1358233757 969820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1358234046 420177 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1358234082 507763 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1358236640 308874 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358236739 29168 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1358236770 894990 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1358236782 890963 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list < 1358236787 724565 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bot got eaten or whatever. < 1358237120 378723 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1358237184 718497 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1358237370 76172 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought about sokoban compression. Run-length encoding with Huffman could be used, but there are many other things. All the edges should be used. All non-wall tiles should be joined to the start tile. The number of targets should equal the number of boxes. Targets cannot be placed in walls, or in squares that it is impossible for a box to reach due to too narrow corners and whatever. < 1358237415 818237 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boxes cannot be placed in wall tiles or start tile, and should not be placed where they are impossible to ever move. Possibly spiral encoding might help, skipping the invalid positions. < 1358237474 577730 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also such things as, there must be at least one box which is not initially on a target. < 1358237658 687342 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora < 1358237663 670753 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who else? < 1358237668 442400 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot < 1358238362 924438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love updates < 1358238363 269413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are so easy < 1358238402 887595 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not with hackego down!! / have you made that exact same phrasing before / shachaf......... < 1358238435 645272 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :youve driven it so far into the ground!!!it's 6ft under(that's a metaphor for dead) < 1358238436 163383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is that a monqyhaiku < 1358238455 53471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh no < 1358238468 968380 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i stop < 1358238477 5995 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably... < 1358238480 912404 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. yes < 1358238530 659422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. no?????? < 1358238565 539889 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1358238774 844171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :How To Make An Undead Horse Trope In A Single Day: Shachaf Version < 1358238929 730196 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: sleep? < 1358239247 496037 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1358239254 179624 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Client Quit < 1358239481 138998 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an undead horse trope? < 1358239489 823820 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358239521 245965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why i am glad you asked http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UndeadHorseTrope < 1358239652 729671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sabotoerjan < 1358241342 590204 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1358241349 80007 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone posted in chinese; reply was 谷歌翻譯是好 < 1358241813 498977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :是。是的，它是。 < 1358242081 346359 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358242113 348704 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358242270 920735 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.50.63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358242335 295325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1358243126 197563 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1358243281 979384 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another use of zero-length arrays in GNU C can be to allow structures to contain constant data accessed by sizeof, and to make associated types accessed by typeof, both of which can be usable in macros. < 1358243835 961221 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358243867 280553 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358243899 91668 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DED4.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358244038 100232 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358244047 243625 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-128-30.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358246182 897083 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1358246226 200908 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1358246783 511551 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1358247268 454000 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358247351 890617 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1358248416 99225 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-128-30.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1358248784 658549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is something like #line (2*3*7) OK in a C code? < 1358248991 537187 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it. < 1358249516 517156 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just # line digit-sequence new-line < 1358249556 351113 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-66-100.singnet.com.sg JOIN :#esoteric < 1358249584 429582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With an optional string denoting the file name; and a third form that is # line pp-tokens new-line which must after macro expansion match the original.) < 1358249586 234433 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-128-30.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358249612 902458 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's okay to #define LINENO 12345 #line LINENO but it won't evaluate expressions. < 1358249837 350261 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-66-100.singnet.com.sg QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1358249980 488049 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358250006 60234 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358250340 482018 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358250690 536328 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-66-100.singnet.com.sg JOIN :#esoteric < 1358250849 749494 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-66-100.singnet.com.sg PART :#esoteric < 1358251636 512254 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#line sqrt(42) < 1358252117 143896 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DED4.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 18.0/20130104151925] < 1358253534 300382 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42fbb.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358253609 28458 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42fbb.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls /usr/bin/mon* < 1358253632 771443 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-128-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is off on an adventure < 1358253646 333128 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42fbb.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1358255850 347821 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358256240 697121 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1358256243 199123 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi boily < 1358256415 65501 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-128-30.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1358256625 921509 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-30.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358256736 109203 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to tag things on wikipedia as "wtf this makes no sense"? < 1358257818 508908 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358257828 424112 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1358257879 768818 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358258436 140166 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1358258804 956796 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: {{featured article}} < 1358258833 386209 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358258841 397182 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1358258867 579777 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358258946 190136 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i dont want to tag a whole article. just one sentence. perhaps [citation needed] would be close enough, but i really want [this would be illogical, captain] < 1358259243 53938 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42fbb.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess he wanted to read the article you're refering to quintopia < 1358259322 597836 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42fbb.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can at least make your notes at the discussion boards. don't know if you can tag only one statement < 1358259609 386901 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42fbb.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no he didn't < 1358259615 791499 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42fbb.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1358259635 819022 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hagb4rd < 1358259644 497792 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you could just remove the statement < 1358259651 715549 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42fbb.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia < 1358259663 415763 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is curious as to what the statement is
< 1358259740 947827 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey PSOX is at risk of vanishing off the face of the Internet if I don't take action < 1358259756 585637 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Got an email from Assembla about having been inactive for almost 2 years) < 1358260067 739213 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hi Sgeo! < 1358260089 665660 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1358260555 70308 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.50.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is PSOX? < 1358260614 163983 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic, this thing Sgeo made < 1358262783 562172 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1358262814 812813 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1358263194 669209 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's distressing how empty Smalltalk-related channels are < 1358263260 120032 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's very little talk < 1358263604 299573 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1358263610 554934 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1358263618 405580 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey < 1358264209 768833 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1358264337 551471 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358264554 744926 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, i hear you were doing something stupid like trying to use gentoo < 1358264579 626654 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sploknee, yeah, that kinda failed miserably < 1358264600 442243 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gentoo isn't for me < 1358264702 349200 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't for anyone < 1358264747 790797 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants to try to set up Linux From Scratch at some point
< 1358265161 434647 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except now I'm in the mood to completely wipe my laptop < 1358265239 221606 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And get an OS that's more .... than Ubuntu < 1358265290 835899 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: as an arch zealot, may I kindly point you to that fabulous, magical, incredible distribution of superior quality? < 1358265314 196009 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll give it a shot, why not < 1358265328 404822 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As someone who's probably insane, can I use Unity on it? < 1358265471 869226 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some just did, with proof in the screenshot forum thread. < 1358265505 651058 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1217765#p1217765 < 1358265613 214080 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :arch is like a good distro except secretly bad < 1358265614 940739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i use it anyway < 1358265635 729558 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello today I am a dentist's office. It is a nervous place. < 1358265750 241191 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is there a dentist inside < 1358265756 225370 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's what's-his-name who said stuff critical of Arch < 1358265762 414286 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is very specific and detailed
< 1358265786 413744 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/254 < 1358265794 763748 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I've decided to stop using Arch Linux, because I believe in The Arch Way. I'm tempted to leave it at that, but more detail is below the cut." < 1358265883 82554 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-30.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1358265931 988607 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/256 < 1358265933 365998 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1358265937 203889 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION facepalms
< 1358265953 209983 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358265999 261759 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-119-36.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358266122 105694 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-119-36.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358266142 665232 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just caused someone to download a Windows game < 1358266158 73699 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because they liked the music soundtrack that I linked to and wanted to see if they could rip it from the game) < 1358266186 267593 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1358266909 955230 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358266997 794721 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what do you feel about the Arch package signing controversy < 1358267046 658374 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lwn.net/Articles/434990/ http://www.toofishes.net/blog/real-story-behind-arch-linux-package-signing/ < 1358267084 884243 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I didn't really care while the subject was still hot, and I still don't. checking package signatures is wholly optional on the users' ends. < 1358267100 523720 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the latter blaming lwn's journalism? < 1358267124 331143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't read the latter but thought i should link it for balance < 1358267241 777647 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, but it shouldn't be optional for the developers to provide the means for the users to check package signatures (I haven't actually read any of the stuff, so don't know if that's the issue) < 1358267334 581756 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«First, shame on you Nathan Willis, Jonathan Corbet, and LWN for allowing this to be published. This is not journalism- this is propaganda fueled by a rogue blogger who you've decided to let create a story where there isn't one. I'm going to address points in the article that are just flat out wrong.» right < 1358267407 921355 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that I agree with. it's the flamewars and other bickerings that annoy me to no end. < 1358267504 700508 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, why did i look at that comments section < 1358267945 804231 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1358268001 413185 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burning the Arch iso onto a disk now < 1358269178 478115 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1358269433 430661 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358269558 510660 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What file systems are "in" this season? < 1358269619 441304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: arch has package signing now < 1358269658 525411 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1358270197 221146 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358270339 612805 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This would be so much easier if my laptop's wifi thingy actually worked < 1358271185 275476 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this hasn't gone my way < 1358271846 737762 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358272083 761707 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1358272145 189655 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358272833 326121 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-35.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1358272843 778724 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-35.elisa.ee QUIT :Client Quit < 1358273230 779493 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358273256 525708 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358273830 907859 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358274095 593621 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1358274126 313375 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1358274649 885567 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Early in his jump, it was about minus 40 degrees, which is that magical point where you don’t have to clarify whether you mean Fahrenheit or Celsius—it’s the same in both. < 1358274652 413830 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahah < 1358274665 397654 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they did the same thing in stargate once that was slightly disturbing < 1358274790 322101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358275134 912828 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1358275165 714944 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1358275788 463186 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, but what if it's in kelvin < 1358275800 455300 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rankines (god have mercy upon you) < 1358275802 419200 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.50.63 PART :#esoteric < 1358275924 387470 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sploknee: I have a friend in civil engineering who was sometimes stuck with this kind of nonsense when she was an undergrand. < 1358275955 281486 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shudder* < 1358275955 452125 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but then, I wasn't in a much brighter spot, with our measurements in thousands of inches...) < 1358275964 859525 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :project rho uses them too < 1358275983 929314 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess because the guy who wrote it is Old and also a dickhead < 1358276017 91547 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Never ascribe to malice that which is caused by greed and ignorance." -- Carl Keegan < 1358276091 930202 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't ascribe anything to malice! just dickheadedness < 1358276305 823585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, engineers in the US still sometimes use imperialish units :( < 1358276402 221953 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"imperialish" < 1358276407 244636 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the tang of imperial units with half the fat. < 1358276453 494189 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sploknee: malice and dickheadery aren't the same? :p < 1358276799 275235 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.50.63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358277631 579052 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah copumpkin has 24,295 twitter followers < 1358277632 826735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well done < 1358277653 105352 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1358277941 348061 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, who are you on twitter? < 1358277945 607369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@miuaf < 1358277945 787421 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1358277951 22247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@shutuplambdabot < 1358277951 258087 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1358278006 478104 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :followed, although I doubt when I see my feed I'll remember unless I go to your feed < 1358278010 486177 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :profile? < 1358278079 18565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1358278118 885570 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, as in, I might have trouble remembering miuaf = kmc unless I see the name < 1358278138 46442 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I am again drinking coffee < 1358278141 87264 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(less this time) < 1358278145 973964 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and not on an empty stomach) < 1358278537 123014 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiple languages in the Smalltalk environment maybe? < 1358278537 366983 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-35.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1358278556 241055 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there have been things to do that before < 1358278709 92698 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, writing functions for local use isn't really a typical thing to do in Smalltalk, is it? < 1358278719 139313 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I see how one could < 1358278723 253356 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :| helperFun | < 1358278732 656134 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does smalltalk even have "functions"? well, blocks i guess... < 1358278734 797654 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helperFun := [:arg1 :arg2 | ... ] < 1358278736 969684 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how it scopes though. < 1358278766 861893 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some recentish Squeak or Pharo changed the scoping? < 1358278786 36822 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1358278900 518767 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realised I was looking at ##c < 1358278916 531001 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :as, suddenly, Bike and Fiora < 1358278958 292558 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry <.<; < 1358278963 305444 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike is dragging me around < 1358279004 497046 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird, Bikes are usually not the ones making the decisions on where to go < 1358279105 241273 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor do tzetze flies oddly enough < 1358279127 687297 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, yes we do! As part of a swarm. It's democratic! < 1358279340 485489 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I think, to just mix together some Factor and Smalltalk thoughts, maybe what I'd like is a language with Smalltalk-ish syntax except the methods are not attached to objects but themselves contain code, and this code could, say, dispatch on first argument a.la Smalltalk, or do something else < 1358279383 540930 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1358279454 725765 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike has powers of persuasion basically < 1358279456 435155 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes like this < 1358279465 11779 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"but I tried ##c and it looked like a bunch of language lawyer arguments >_<" < 1358279477 76078 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"well I just had this really cool discussion here about X, here's the logs" < 1358279485 393287 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oooh. *join*" < 1358279491 112793 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plot twist: X turns out to be basically a language lawyer argument. < 1358279498 36246 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. that is the ultimate plot twist. < 1358279503 858837 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT IT WAS LIKE, INTERESTING, OKAYS < 1358279533 688944 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: have you read uh... http://piumarta.com/freeco11/ < 1358279544 647676 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but I will now < 1358279546 896950 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this dude's a smalltalker) < 1358279575 917479 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one? < 1358279592 181082 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dude I just linked you. < 1358279615 464496 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant, which paper are you suggesting I read? < 1358279636 653700 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first paper there is basically a really basic thing about how to make multimethods in user code, or single methods, or like whatever you want. < 1358279640 12746 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that one. < 1358279655 801636 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1358280457 454103 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1358281327 402173 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1358281483 887751 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1358281935 789319 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.50.63 PART :#esoteric < 1358282536 652508 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.50.63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358283212 566598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358283382 91963 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1358283583 832854 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1358284077 70547 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bas2-h-77-10.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1358284441 352005 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, GNU Smalltalk's IDE is sometimes considered not as good, but is it really considered bad? < 1358284455 440637 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has an ide? < 1358284480 565900 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has many < 1358284696 67052 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Smalltalker would say that the way you're asking the question makes it impossible to answer. < 1358284698 729384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION calculates how to offend as many people as possible with an opinion about Smalltalk
< 1358284707 978137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU Smalltalk misses the point of Smalltalk. IMO, this is a good thing. < 1358284713 383563 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smalltalk doesn't have an IDE. Smalltalk IS the whole environment, not a suite of tools. < 1358284717 882418 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with ais523 :) < 1358284962 230128 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Smalltalk the only dynamically typed language that does not try to give a meaning to doing an if on non-booleans? < 1358285115 533413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1358285177 34864 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42fbb.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's better for hackego not to disregard his private life < 1358285200 840574 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1358285210 994628 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well, i thought gnu smalltalk wasn't an ide, then. < 1358285217 270115 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358285223 983822 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Exactly. < 1358285239 170893 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1358285256 246426 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU Smalltalk isn't Smalltalk. It's some weird bastard child that results of ripping just the language component from the environment. To a Smalltalker, that's simply not Smalltalk. < 1358285262 793501 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :To a Unixer, that's the only way Smalltalk can be useful :) < 1358285265 478844 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i thought. < 1358285273 879978 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why i asked "it has an IDE?" < 1358285284 727082 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do Smalltalkers and Unixers think of, eg, Squeak < 1358285330 882031 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my issue with something like Squeak is that it's a very closed environment < 1358285346 92715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't extract a running Smalltalk program out of Squeak and run it elsewhere at all easily < 1358285360 658846 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main issue with image-based programming, probably < 1358285363 805680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this makes deployment awkward because you have to ship an entire GUI with, say, your server daemon < 1358285368 412497 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And to a Smalltalker, that's just some silly Unixer trying to drag their notion of programming into Smalltalk. < 1358285371 872019 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You silly Unixer. < 1358285375 252492 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1358285468 850069 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be nice if you could do both. have an interactive lovely ide and then extract the boring program to run on a thirty year old netbsd installation < 1358285475 375846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of deploying our server daemons inside a Smalltalk GUI, we deploy them as virtual machines along with an entire vestigial installation of GNU/Linux < 1358285505 574054 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or yeah we could just wait for everything to become shitty Smalltalk anyway. < 1358285515 289683 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's a headless.. something < 1358285519 863337 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @ kmc. Soooo painfully true :) < 1358285522 86614 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of which: Whatever happened to the "Unix philosophy" of tiny cogs? Did that ever actually exist? < 1358285584 122364 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's a headless option to the VM, and Pharo has a "Core" image that doesn't include a lot of the IDE stuff < 1358285589 675981 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's that < 1358285618 607504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't wait until we give up on this layer as well and start, like, shipping around images that represent entire fleets of EC2 VMs, all to be virtualized on top of some other crap thing < 1358285619 965811 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: But once you've built something in the normal environment, extracting it and putting it into another image is somewhere between magic and time travel in terms of possibility. < 1358285635 834027 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'm pretty sure I read that Greg Bear novel once! < 1358285678 494053 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42fbb.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean there's no need to deploy them hard-wired? < 1358285710 53430 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the big problem with just using the same image in -headless? The file size bloat? < 1358285727 88146 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :complaints about file size are always amusing. < 1358285743 791770 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Let's say you wrote a useful library in one image, and a useful app in another, and now you'd like to use that library in that app. < 1358285754 590655 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Now you have to meticulously extract all the relevant objects and inject them into the other image. < 1358285770 586838 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that what tools like Monticello are for? < 1358285824 242678 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, tools exist to ease the process. But the point is, that whole notion that that IS a process is unique to Smalltalk. < 1358285862 328613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well shared library linking isn't exactly ponies & rainbows in other languages either < 1358285945 269761 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1358286266 621115 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it really that different? if I write two programs in [non-Smalltalk language], and decide that the second needs some stuff from the first, I'll be copying out the stuff I need from the first's source into new source that I can compile seperately and then link < 1358286270 513511 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42fbb.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ponies & rainbows would be a good theme for a new esoteric language.. have to keep that idea in mind < 1358286283 598064 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like Smalltalk's environment slightly encourages me to do version control, Racket's stuff encourages me to do unit testing < 1358286301 608774 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both practices I really don't do but should get in the habit of < 1358286469 151907 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42fbb.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need version control in every language. that's for sure < 1358286552 201362 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42fbb.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in best case you need not more than a reference to a version of your lib to make things happen < 1358286720 872405 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1358286943 817338 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1358287040 114568 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In case you were wondering what Unix herpes looked like." http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/2/8/2/161282_v1.jpg < 1358287184 996362 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If your application has a military, weapon-technical or genetic-engineering background, or if your company produces landmines or is involved in the management of patents on food, animals or humans or is owning any of these, please contact info@exept.de. In such a case, we may have to insist on a non-free licence agreement." < 1358287206 34958 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No genetic-engineering on Smalltalk/X :( < 1358287230 355737 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, what < 1358287355 502272 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1358287412 481086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah genetic engineering is only useful for killing people < 1358287419 421632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or feeding huge numbers of people who would otherwise starve < 1358287421 229574 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't remember which < 1358287464 373569 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can they even enforce a license like that? BSD unless you're The Man? < 1358287475 976947 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there seem to be a lot of things like that < 1358287492 896906 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, nitrogen compounds prevent billions of people from starving by fertilizing crops across the globe < 1358287497 237953 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also explode < 1358287563 343326 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :genetic engineering is a bit weird because I don't think it's even been particularly used for violent applications. like, monsanto are assholes, but that's because of how patent law works (so, the later clause), not because they're messing with liiiiife < 1358287603 359635 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :has it been used for biological weapons? < 1358287610 321236 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I imagine if it *has* they wouldn't be talking much about it < 1358287657 487830 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think any major power has tried to engineer diseases since like the 80s. Sarin's cheaper anyhow. < 1358287694 210588 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's for supersoldiers, right? < 1358287701 694126 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬_¬ < 1358287722 941900 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :resident evil is totes a documentary < 1358287751 832089 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course there's also the "are you seriously not even going to distinguish retrovirus mods from regular old controlled breeding" aspect, butgah < 1358287774 505067 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-143.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1358287774 686066 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-143.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1358287774 686239 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1358287795 213730 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even going to try, rather < 1358287865 743730 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1358287940 946538 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, biopreparat existed through the 90s. < 1358288038 322393 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1358288153 650618 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1358288237 406170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.archive.org/web/19980626195924/http://www.dtic.mil/stinet/ndia/NLD3/camp.pdf "genetic engineering" for "military use" from the 1998. < 1358288248 508531 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it's not exactly for killing anyone. < 1358288551 751564 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i suppose i wasn't thinking of things notdirectly targeted atpeople < 1358288631 554278 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-143.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1358288631 735584 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-143.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1358288631 735759 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1358288978 696272 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1358289356 139399 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-35.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1358289659 488551 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1358290064 879260 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eliot < 1358290377 598554 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :e2lio2t < 1358290408 540703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 fast 2 elliott < 1358290436 890639 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lern2elliott < 1358290444 329692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :e(l)\1io(t)\2 < 1358290475 638527 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a person named Eliot who does CogVM stuff < 1358290649 24642 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inform him he mistyped “elliott”. < 1358290864 95711 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I don't think it's TCO, but the Smalltalk equivalent did seem to run a while < 1358290886 725704 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, Smalltalk equiv. of ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) < 1358290889 989560 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I wrote as < 1358290895 967729 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[:x | x value: x] value: [:x | x value: x] < 1358290999 493174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :approved abbreviation in #esoteric is e(l)*2io(t)*2 < 1358291006 141535 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that this is longer than the original :) < 1358291036 963971 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust elliott elliott < 1358291047 383909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: that's just a no-op program < 1358291048 781332 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for Jafet_elliott: 4.6 < 1358291067 781981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps we should have a no-op permanently on the hill < 1358291102 128611 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust elliott (ellio++)*-1 < 1358291107 22406 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yay, welcome to twitter! my followers aren't very legit < 1358291108 64693 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for Jafet_elliott: 8.6 < 1358291116 763210 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((S)(:SS))(( e)S~^:(l)~^(io)S:(t)~^a~a*~:^):^ < 1358291117 199187 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot elliott eliot e ...too much output! < 1358291143 783193 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The mixed variants left as an exercise.) < 1358291195 278433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Not even kmc? < 1358291212 530372 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I have some "real" ones who follow me for the right reasons < 1358291217 600539 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :most follow me for the wrong reasons < 1358291228 292348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just logged in to Twitter and they sent me a "welcome back to Twitter" email. < 1358291235 179381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the wrong reasons to follow copumpkin? < 1358291248 68193 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking for cohalloween ideas? < 1358291262 431477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when is cohalloween, anyway? < 1358291272 820437 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: expecting to get information about iphone jailbreaks < 1358291276 189473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :April 30? < 1358291277 391104 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo el{,l}iot{,t} < 1358291287 648763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Oh, that. < 1358291297 356113 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed :) < 1358291298 691433 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: do you actually work in iphone jailbreaks, or are they just hoping? < 1358291298 871096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love iphone jailbreaks < 1358291340 112906 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to write a Smalltalk quine, but not entirely sure what counts as a quine < 1358291341 854524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I like the idea of tens of thousands of people following copumpkin for jailbreaks despite him having no known connection to them. < 1358291349 158194 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PrintIt on [] prints [] < 1358291354 534547 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that mean it counts? < 1358291383 268035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: If you run the Ruby program "", it prints "". Does that count? < 1358291408 833753 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION decides to try to write a program in the workspace such that, when I DoIt, it shows up in the Transcript
< 1358291412 466742 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I used to, but lost interest around the same time I got sucked into haskellrama < 1358291419 612761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works with Perl and Python, too. < 1358291441 883286 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an object-oriented quine would return something that constructs an object-oriented quine, i would think < 1358291443 50703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so do I, that's why I suggested it < 1358291469 584435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Right. < 1358291479 463833 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (((S)(S))((S)(:SS))((:SS)(S))((:SS)(:SS)))(( e)S~^:^(l)~^(io)S(t)~^a~a~*~a~*~a*~:^):^ < 1358291479 900647 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott eliot elliot eliott elliott eliot elliot eliott elliott eliot elliot eliott elliott eliot elliot eliott elliott eliot elliot eliott elliott eliot elliot eliott elliott eliot elliot eliott elliott eliot elliot eliott elliott eliot elliot eliott elliott eliot elliot eliott elliott eliot elliot eliott elliott eliot e ...too much output! < 1358291485 634040 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The easy way out.) < 1358291506 20644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust hi (((S)(S))((S)(:SS))((:SS)(S))((:SS)(:SS)))(( e)S~^:^(l)~^(io)S(t)~^a~a~*~a~*~a*~:^):^ < 1358291508 767200 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for shachaf_hi: 4.6 < 1358291513 501678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's a terrible BF program. < 1358291515 946020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm wondering how much effort it'd be to make a decent-ish PRNG in Underload < 1358291528 366692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where "decent-ish" means "humans can't spot the pattern" < 1358291680 312019 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[:q | Transcript show: q; < 1358291680 530920 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : show: ' value: '; < 1358291680 710764 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : show: q] value: [:q | Transcript show: q; < 1358291680 710955 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : show: ' value: '; < 1358291680 711063 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : show: q] < 1358291691 430550 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep. < 1358291694 242646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1358291710 148815 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The spacing is the way it is because that's how my original ended up showing up when printed < 1358291712 829678 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I just used that < 1358291718 125245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: an attempt to make a Smalltalk quine? < 1358291724 974059 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you considered implementing Smalltalk as a Racket language on the JVM < 1358291752 750437 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, did I fail somewhere? < 1358291759 886408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: The JVM is the thing that Clojure uses, right? < 1358291785 875110 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"maybe" < 1358291808 434396 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't know < 1358291817 807751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: How should we know? You only pasted the source of the program. You should paste its output. < 1358291821 371434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. You only pasted the output of the program. You should paste its source code. < 1358291847 496747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love quines < 1358291851 14627 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are so easy < 1358291886 264869 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn < 1358291891 832371 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't work in GNU Smalltalk < 1358291924 282901 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Amber-Lang < 1358291979 320041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i forgot that copumpkin is an iphone bandit < 1358291980 657664 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358291988 381946 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes more sense now < 1358291996 174153 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1358292040 153460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far i'm finding twitter a lot more enjoyable than facebook and g+ and all these other newfangled social networks < 1358292048 230090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitter is much more of a "Do one thing well" service < 1358292053 123628 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358292091 562177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's just because twitter is in a "making something people want" phase and facebook is in the later "extract as much money as possible from addicts" phase < 1358292187 742632 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358292211 605229 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitter seems kind of like a neutered tumblr < 1358292219 762321 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with more techy social media people and less fandomy stuff < 1358292230 967292 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good! < 1358292249 235099 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I don't see it as a neutered anything. I just use different services for different degrees of development of an idea < 1358292256 532905 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really get the cross-posting thing < 1358292270 795539 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of people auto-cross-post but it seems a bit silly < 1358292280 773457 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows though, I might just be doing it wrong :) < 1358292286 737519 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tumblr allows a lot more freedom to customize the look of your page, doesn't it? < 1358292297 42498 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean that like, it doesn't have a lot of stuff that tumblr does, it seems like largely a subset < 1358292299 81422 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, yes < 1358292309 830213 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that it's a bad thing, since, subsets can improve stuff < 1358292322 183093 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, facebook is also basically a superset of twitter < 1358292341 398827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Twitter is definitely a superset of a subset of Tumblr. < 1358292349 606168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :facebook wants to be everything < 1358292352 86288 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tumblr's supersetness seems to be largely oriented on much better posts (larger posts, formatting, image sets, etc) < 1358292355 648447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they want to replace the Web as the platform you build stuff on < 1358292360 786740 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :facebook is a superset of facebook? < 1358292362 753801 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and better reblog/reply/etc stuff, and better customization < 1358292366 413059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1358292368 650502 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah < 1358292370 781137 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not a proper superset < 1358292375 274210 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: FSVO "better" < 1358292389 363152 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i demand nontraditional set theories from my social media < 1358292411 125981 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, to be fair the customization can be annoyingly hard < 1358292417 32185 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to practically half-learn css to make my page look how I wanted < 1358292428 650805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :css: so easy?? < 1358292449 892751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I hear there's going to be a Stripe Cambridge Drinkup. < 1358292462 130078 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it can easily become a tool of war upon the eye < 1358292473 504626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why I get all these emails. < 1358292527 411381 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tumblr doesn't force you to look at other peoples' pages though in that you can do all your interaction from the dashboard < 1358292540 445035 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so usually you can avoid dealing with that one person who has a yellow on pink page with autoplaying music < 1358292549 543062 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and replaces your mouse cursor with a sparkler < 1358292568 479551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Isn't that only if you follow them? < 1358292570 340311 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't forget the ponies dancing around the screen. < 1358292575 826439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a Tumblr account but doesn't use it.
< 1358292605 223276 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a tumblr account and well you all know the rest
< 1358292633 120774 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah < 1358292635 713011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you took an arrow to the knee? < 1358292637 395225 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a Tumblr account that is on Planet Clojure < 1358292651 610059 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's even more forced than being easy. < 1358292667 580556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no people have stopped sayin git < 1358292671 525768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's retro now < 1358292701 648775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know "people" have never said the easy. < 1358292702 956723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing. < 1358292705 439144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just me. < 1358292710 95632 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you still in cambridge < 1358292711 845912 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1358292714 973564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1358292744 773535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Well, all the "cool people" are in Cambridge. < 1358292760 133919 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many horrible design sins my tumblr commits < 1358292773 7574 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is american ripoff cambridge yes < 1358292775 192128 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: 74 last I checked < 1358292813 833175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sploknee: yeah < 1358292850 672195 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1358292873 643048 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon < 1358292873 824211 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a great day for France! < 1358292890 321504 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, the W3c validator hates my page < 1358292893 669981 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually oh god what is tumblr doing < 1358292903 516967 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they put a at the top < 1358292908 349032 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: have you checked their js? it's ~obfuscated~ < 1358292909 500613 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they add in the tumblr javascript < 1358292915 369735 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they put the actual webpage < 1358292920 479195 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my page ends up with TWO doctype tags < 1358292952 591298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you're supposed to have your own doctype, are you? < 1358292973 926689 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the top tag is literally < 1358292978 484262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should be able to style script tags with CSS. < 1358292978 827208 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a legitimate doctype? < 1358292987 563951 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ffioraaeterna.tumblr.com%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=XHTML+1.0+Transitional&group=0 < 1358292995 529928 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION knows so little about web things
< 1358293007 797774 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, I only got three errors. < 1358293009 438919 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. have them all run at once, and give the ones with more opacity higher priority. < 1358293012 255300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or who knows. < 1358293022 517520 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Line 14, Column 67: Cannot recover after last error. Any further errors will be ignored." oh. < 1358293034 327731 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.50.63 PART :#esoteric < 1358293043 3815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is this you: http://bike.tumblr.com/ < 1358293046 750352 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to force the type to XHTML < 1358293052 290337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : is HTML5 < 1358293061 297648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: You should change your username to xn--fioraterna-h6a < 1358293061 477552 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://bicyclidine.tumblr.com/ < 1358293083 679615 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... o_O < 1358293084 197692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: XHTML is dead! < 1358293086 534090 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my code: < 1358293092 338946 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually displayed on the page: < 1358293092 558082 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1358293105 150050 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the validator complains "prefix" doesn't exist o_O < 1358293106 355723 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want my XHTML 2.0 .__. < 1358293106 605459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1358293109 478512 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"open graph protocol"? < 1358293118 987585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in HTML5 you are allowed to have custom attributes, I believe < 1358293120 340045 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing some social graph thing? < 1358293120 558496 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably doesn't. I don't think that's part of HTML < 1358293138 298538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: It doesn't complain about it if you set it to HTML5. < 1358293152 760646 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure the only custom attributes it allows it data-* attributes < 1358293156 699160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's because it comes across an unrecoverable error. < 1358293174 863907 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : how is > a stray tag o_O < 1358293188 19286 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358293194 452262 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait are you doing HMTL or XHTML now < 1358293203 985497 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :xmlns and friends is XHTML, is HTML < 1358293213 336409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMTL is the best tarkup language. < 1358293216 386423 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1358293259 661473 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358293427 869314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: So you're still doing Scala? < 1358293447 465329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inescapable. < 1358293454 915253 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1358293461 798781 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the end of the world < 1358293466 847076 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer haskell, but oh well < 1358293474 19028 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll corrupt everyone eventually