00:02:33 -!- sebbu has joined. 00:02:34 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 00:02:34 -!- sebbu has joined. 00:03:05 Sgeo: why is it esaier to donate via SL? Is SL already hooked up to some payment mechanism? 00:03:54 hagb4rd: i can't find any reliable source on that 00:04:05 de.wikipedia.org has it 00:05:01 nooodl: actually it's called cyclosophie in english.. but there are very few english sites providing information on that 00:05:04 a pity 00:05:10 kmc, it's currently rather difficult for me to take my SL money and bring it into RL 00:05:16 what bothers me most is, it *only* exists in german sources 00:05:19 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 00:05:33 it doesn't even appear to have a dutch name 00:06:02 nooodl, I have a dutch name 00:06:11 That doesn't mean much 00:09:11 -!- nooodl_ has joined. 00:09:41 isn't dutch similar enough to german that the word might work in both? 00:10:06 it is oerjan 00:10:22 and i believe it's originally called "radosophie" 00:11:33 it's translated to cyclosophie but there a very few sources on cyclosophie anyway 00:11:57 google translate seems to think rad means wheel in both 00:12:04 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 00:12:53 actually rad is wheel but colloquially it means bike 00:12:58 too 00:13:04 only in german 00:13:08 it dutch we say "fiets" 00:13:16 oh ok 00:13:20 cool 00:14:08 * oerjan wonders what the etymology of that is 00:14:18 oerjan: literally nobody knows for sure 00:14:30 there's no cognates for it at all 00:14:48 wait. whoa what http://www.24oranges.nl/2012/02/23/etymology-of-dutch-word-for-bicycle-cracked-after-140-years/ 00:14:55 hm also means machine? 00:15:01 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:15:28 -!- sebbu has joined. 00:15:29 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 00:15:29 -!- sebbu has joined. 00:15:41 you see the list of mystical facts on the dutch and their bikes is getting longer and longer :D 00:15:49 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 00:16:49 it's hard to beat "vélocipède", really. 00:20:14 I was playing Dungeons&Dragons game yesterday. We were trying to hide in the storage room, but we got chased around by all over the place, by guards, invisible wizards, an undead shadow, the wizard who was invisible was putting candles on the floor and eventually made some spell to light the fire much bigger... 00:23:46 It is a little bit like a game of chess. But, this game is much more complicated and has incomplete information, as well as nearly everything else different. 00:24:17 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: goodnight). 00:30:30 I managed to reverse the hinge on a door to prevent it from opening; I was trying to change it so that it would open into the hallway instead of opening into the room, but now it doesn't open at all. Well, at least this helps a bit. 00:33:12 Sgeo: oh, you can donate SL money, i see 00:33:48 my friend says in NL it is common to have two bikes, one at each end of your commute by train 00:35:25 i guess this is needed because cities in NL don't have dense rapid transit networks 00:40:46 wheeee template templates 00:41:04 template class B> class C 00:45:05 often used that to build some kind of dictionary of dictionaries for example 00:45:47 mutidimensional dictionaries 00:49:43 That's just using a template class as the type parameter of a class template, not a template template thing? 00:50:25 ok where's the difference 00:51:16 I don't know how template templates work, so I can't answer that. But you certainly don't write something like that just to make a map< string, map >. 00:51:16 map > is not template templates 00:51:32 because map is a fully instantiated type 00:51:48 template templates lets you do things like Foo 00:51:58 where the body of Foo then gets to instantiate 'map' however it wants 00:52:03 and you could pass in some other two-argument template there 00:52:38 if I have template class B> class C 00:53:08 then within C i can use B, B, B< B >, etc. 00:53:29 and the code that uses C gets to decide which template B ultimately is 00:53:59 -!- TodPunk has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 00:54:03 this corresponds to higher-kinded types in Haskell 00:54:12 type constructors that take other type constructors as arguments 00:54:17 :k ReaderT 00:54:18 * -> (* -> *) -> * -> * 00:54:50 "Very nice, but does g++ have it" 00:57:29 template templates? yes 00:57:42 they're a standard C++98 feature i believe 00:58:36 Well, there is at least one C++98 feature that no one supports 00:58:53 ok, fair enough 00:59:10 Except the edison people who get paid millions of dollars to implement C++98 00:59:34 And I believe people who buy their compilers then turn it off 00:59:55 is this the precompiled templates or whatever? 01:00:25 template templates? 01:00:26 Templatium exportium 01:00:52 etb: template templates are what we were discussing above 01:01:04 they are widely implemented afaik 01:01:32 * etb looks in the logs 01:02:55 i believe the notation of this simplified by generics in c# 01:03:12 bah 01:03:21 give it to me raw 01:04:10 wow, it works 01:04:18 template class B> class C { }; int main(){} 01:07:05 template