< 1354579201 288418 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, right. otherwise a square that was initially empty can never be written to from out, but if the ip enters a square that's empty it will exit without performing any writing... < 1354579368 9062 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well partial orders over a finite set are basically trees < 1354579382 400621 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354579446 963201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they are not. < 1354579455 482325 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1354579465 421806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : . < 1354579469 540143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : / \ < 1354579475 335822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : / \ < 1354579478 102187 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh < 1354579479 63527 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1354579480 398507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :.------. < 1354579482 2949 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ok < 1354579493 782316 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dags, then < 1354579511 568766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn miscounted < 1354579530 398644 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's almost like trees < 1354579533 318155 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's oriented < 1354579550 90649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : . < 1354579552 64727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : / \ < 1354579553 721127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ \ < 1354579564 636161 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all we do talk about "genealogy trees" even though they're not trees either < 1354579583 671839 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not? < 1354579611 540079 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I can be the descendant of two people which are cousins < 1354579615 172740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gently teaches Bike about incest
< 1354579644 799945 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION didn't even realized there was something wrong with that
< 1354579645 893237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes he may have been unusually creepy today
< 1354579653 556805 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're directed acyclic graphs, right...? < 1354579667 525473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: barring time travel hth < 1354579673 775172 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gently teaches oerjan that we're ALL cousins.
< 1354579684 531272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1354579693 647706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I thought we were all brothers and sisters. < 1354579700 991593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinky < 1354579706 272415 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eew < 1354579710 843920 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true... the homestuck family geneology consists entirely of cycles < 1354579720 254650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you read that one story by Heinlein? < 1354579723 908324 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i was confusing dags with possibly cyclic graphs, durr. < 1354579726 49207 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only way you can be the child of two people who are not cousins (and it's just a matter of terminology) is if they're siblings, uncles/aunts/nieces/nephews, or direct linear descendents/ancestors. < 1354579730 534987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read of it, that's just as good < 1354579747 520051 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: he wrote a few about time travel fuckery? you probably mean all you zombies though < 1354579753 540507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1354579761 768154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the topic of family graphs. < 1354579766 543076 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the only one with actual time travel fuckery < 1354579766 857149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Family monoids? < 1354579778 212821 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :family rings < 1354579778 447890 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google the man who folded himself < 1354579779 791797 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Folded_Himself < 1354579779 870313 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: The Man Who Folded Himself - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < 1354579781 236771 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also notable < 1354579798 886802 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only heinlein wasn't a complete arsehole < 1354579807 797458 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm pretty sure back to the future is about marty having sex with his mother < 1354579812 404894 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we could read his stories about spacetime incest in peace. < 1354579819 854329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was that other time travel thing he wrote? < 1354579841 282223 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, white folk (probably most of you), did you know that you're part neanderthal? It's true! < 1354579864 698092 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of... i forget the title, time enough for love maybe? i think he has sex with his mother, and also twin clones of himself or something < 1354579877 40764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By His Bootstraps is the on I was thinking of there. < 1354579877 994968 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any racial group that isn't part neanderthal? < 1354579879 799773 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all at the same time? < 1354579884 665591 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: African. < 1354579889 851717 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhh < 1354579890 664620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also The Door Into Summer. That was a good one. < 1354579905 620877 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :homo sapiens purity. purge the nonafricans < 1354579937 888116 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I, for one, find it fascinating, so nyaa. < 1354579947 622901 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so maybe you can have each line be an ordered list of prefixes < 1354579955 948110 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-6.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354579969 236285 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and some "debugger" would tell you if there are redundancies < 1354580007 114480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: OK. I can try that. < 1354580010 548608 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, um < 1354580024 476378 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I'm not sure whether redundancy is good or bad < 1354580035 46566 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the point at which the human ancestor pool merges at most a few millenia ago < 1354580096 754463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you read _The Door Into Summer_? < 1354580104 404713 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: additionally the 'debugger' could also warn you of "nodes" which are not at the beginning of a line < 1354580132 122280 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's closer to 200,000 years. < 1354580134 765614 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think everyone has *some* Neanderthal ancestors, Africans just don't have many. < 1354580136 830624 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, not sure what I meant < 1354580142 520137 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, uhhhh, not what I'd heard. < 1354580206 505309 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Adam // one ancestor is as recent as 60,000 years, but no more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve // the other, ~200,000 years. < 1354580222 784858 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what they said in stargate < 1354580233 384482 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, those are *direct male and female lines*. < 1354580241 842482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adam and Eve were born 140,000 years apart? < 1354580265 277076 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in some episode they find a frozen human body that's a hundred million years or so old < 1354580280 218045 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The last real merge of humanity into a single pool was before the latest exodus from Africa (duh), and our intermingling with neanderthals just after it. < 1354580281 761687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Please use https: Wikipedia links. < 1354580283 90048 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thanks" < 1354580287 791152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 Gregor < 1354580288 113211 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tertbe < 1354580295 513363 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, doesn't have to be a single pool. < 1354580299 935766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 Gregory < 1354580300 327357 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tertbel < 1354580311 911605 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One migrant can very quickly propagate their ancestry through an isolated population. < 1354580331 706741 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah that's gotta count as statutory rape or something < 1354580370 209779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I suppose "born" isn't quite the right word to use there. < 1354580394 454798 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the last common ancestor thing was at the bottleneck after that explosion in east asia. < 1354580402 624385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Adam and Eve were born 140,000 years apart? <-- basically males tend to spread their genes faster than females, so the direct male lines also die out faster < 1354580405 378081 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The study they did found /no/ neanderthal genomes in modern Africans. < 1354580406 246555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaiu < 1354580413 620258 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_recent_common_ancestor#MRCA_of_all_living_humans ? < 1354580423 778469 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For the group they studied) < 1354580439 111419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk did that skew binary online LCA thing. < 1354580472 85680 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The identical ancestors point for Homo sapiens has been estimated to between 15,000 and 5,000 years ago." < 1354580480 96671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: Please use https: Wikipedia links. <-- please don't < 1354580499 404829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sure i can edit them by hand...) < 1354580501 732522 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neanderthals died out around twice as far back. < 1354580530 751747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What's the matter with https:? < 1354580531 472239 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you mean males can use the 9-month pause in the spreading somewhere to start spreading elsewhere? < 1354580559 466896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: SOMETHING LIKE THAT < 1354580613 94130 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That statistic is contrary to everything else I have ever read, including in relevant college courses >_> < 1354580661 35628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh hm when i tested now it worked fine, i'm still logged in and everything. < 1354580672 721417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https: works great. < 1354580689 187572 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354580691 484297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet oerjan is just the NSA trying to spy on my Wikipedia readin's. < 1354580697 115345 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354580840 616484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: could be true though, that ancestor can be through mixed male and female lines after all, so not as restricted as "adam" and "eve" < 1354580883 431458 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354580917 896281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because of this, you cannot simply measure it by comparing dna like with the single-line inherited parts < 1354580977 80038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, "It is incorrect to assume that the MRCA passed all of his or her genes (or indeed any gene) down to every person alive." < 1354581011 282142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could have a common ancestor that left no genes at all... < 1354581076 743843 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the Ship of Theseus mention < 1354581094 767086 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-6.elisa.ee QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354581139 748437 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: of course at that point you're feeling the urge to do the math < 1354581141 950177 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-6.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354581154 735953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh identical ancestors point is something else again < 1354581221 928451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i think we discussed that very concept on the channel a while ago < 1354581231 503026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(without the name) < 1354581303 451070 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it looks like all the stuff suggesting 15,000-5,000 years is based on computer models of human populations. < 1354581333 809426 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't even bother to build a time machine to conduct the experiment? < 1354581335 731397 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas the recent (2010) study finding neanderthal genes was, y'know, not models. It was people, and their genes. < 1354581359 595933 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but you haven't actually addressed the point about common ancestors not necessarily implying common genes. < 1354581380 584458 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, if there's sufficiently little flow then they can end up sort of flushing the last bits out anyway. < 1354581387 809174 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And still having neanderthals in their line. < 1354581461 438484 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so what're we disagreeing on? < 1354581467 803050 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose we're not :) < 1354581479 776394 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just preferred the original interpretation to the possibly-more-accurate one ;) < 1354581608 1130 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the accurate version is "you're descended from Neanderthals, but if you're African you might as well not be". < 1354581626 153168 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1354581964 106277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: What did you mean, note not at the beginning of a line? < 1354582003 345349 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does the Haskell read function not allow comments? < 1354582050 995597 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hmmm well imagine if you have a line "2 4 12 24 48" and another line "3 6 12 36" < 1354582059 226649 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the two lines "cross" at 12 < 1354582068 776447 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK. < 1354582095 608043 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that's a problem; maybe crossing prefixes should be hilighted or something < 1354582145 417197 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that makes 36 bigger than 2 < 1354582196 621783 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when you're for instance looking for "all prefixes bigger than 2" you might want not to scan all the lines, only the lines for which the first element is bigger than 2 < 1354582220 119714 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry I did not mean "cross" I meant "merge" < 1354582222 296214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think what you want to avoid for redundancy is anything that can be deduced from transitivity. i.e. don't list adjacently any prefixes that have intermediate ones between them < 1354582240 753787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you have 2 4 12, then 2 12 would not be allowed. < 1354582252 899153 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's what I meant < 1354582264 165243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and of course no adjacent pairs should be repeated < 1354582264 360019 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, perhaps it should still be allowed even though it is redundant, it could still be a warning. < 1354582291 249178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is not allowed different ones equal in this context so that would be error. < 1354582294 620303 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I'm not so sure it's such a bad thing - maybe you very much want one prefix to be lower than another, notwithstanding intermediate prefixes < 1354582344 696851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: um that's an automatic consequence, since this is a partial order < 1354582348 191877 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should of course check for cycles and stuff < 1354582349 558139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One idea I have is, every line only lists what is lesser, and some things are deduced from transitivity < 1354582380 913308 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to use Haskell format, but the read function doesn't allow comments, so I won't use that. < 1354582386 160086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only need to list things that are "closest neighbors" < 1354582391 167132 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm talking about "maintainability" of the partial order description file :) < 1354582405 418674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok < 1354582454 568659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this file will contain more than just the partial order. < 1354582611 822969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i am also thinking you might want to have groupings. for example if you have 1 4, 1 5, 1 6, 2 4, 2 5, 2 6, 3 4, 3 5, 3 6 then it would be shorter to say that all of 1 2 and 3 are smaller than all of 4 5 and 6 if you can name groups. < 1354582681 407190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm this is almost essentially the same problem as how to design a more flexible way of giving haskell operator precedences < 1354582703 853037 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh you only make pairs? < 1354582710 365484 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking you could make whole lines < 1354582721 733568 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie compress 1 2, 2 3, 3 4 as 1 2 3 4 < 1354582723 892284 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I really think the operator precedences ought to be surreal numbers. < 1354582732 646791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: that was just in that example, which had no lines to make < 1354582789 338503 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could make 1 2 3 an equivalency class if they share the same properties < 1354582792 158559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ...but those are totally ordered, which may be unsuitable... oh well right, there are other issues with operators. < 1354582797 53455 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354582808 609440 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe you could give a scope to that class if they don't have all their properties in common < 1354582873 448923 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354582960 32535 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know exactly what the file syntax should be, although probably not Haskell because its read function does not parse comments. < 1354583015 6946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I did think of the idea to make the partial ordering, but if you have a better idea you can specify your ideas too. < 1354583128 553517 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the ordering be used for anyway? < 1354583185 218759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it is an optional feature (programs using this file are not required to support it), but can be used to define "baby pokemon" according to the definition I used, if you want to use that definition. < 1354583673 384934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you like this: this_prefix(lesser_prefixes): "text" url < 1354583824 193632 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The URL can be any internet URL, telephone, postal address, or ISBN. < 1354583858 609938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps also allow Tor domains. < 1354583866 498050 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354583882 29101 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354583904 813567 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the list of lesser prefixes is empty you omit the parentheses; if you include them with nothing in between, it includes a single entry which is the empty (Nintendo) prefix. < 1354584025 349622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The URL and text is recommended to be ASCII, although Unicode is allowed (including Conscripts), however they must be encoded using ASCII format: For URL, encoding using % or punycode. For text, encoded using Haskell string literal syntax. < 1354584045 546140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i'm thinking the other way around would be more logical, with () meaning empty, since it is explicit < 1354584046 258933 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comments have # at front of the line. < 1354584087 183718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, maybe... < 1354584372 956710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, I am thinking () is a single blank prefix, because the entries separated by commas, and so no comma = 1 entry, which is blank. < 1354584380 399715 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why I did it that way. < 1354584625 708245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn avuncular < 1354584626 99952 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "avuncular" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1354584626 171380 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :avuncular < 1354584626 171541 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: resembling a uncle in kindness or indulgence < 1354584626 171649 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: being or relating to an uncle < 1354584754 408705 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why do you think other way is really more logical? < 1354584808 561780 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey, i remember that word from anthropology class. are you still looking up MRCA stuff? < 1354584933 158025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well i guess it's intuitive from what () means in haskell, like in import lists and tuples. < 1354584983 941212 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes but if it is Haskell we would use square brackets because it is a list. < 1354585003 291297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess C tends to use more of () as "use defaults" sometimes < 1354585008 455436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: not in import lists < 1354585032 207702 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, yes, in import lists () does mean an empty list, and nothing at all means, it is everything. < 1354585063 950714 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1354585140 372500 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even if it is Haskell, this isn't an import list anyways. < 1354585221 101104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like an inheritance list. but haskell has (A a, B a) => for that instead. < 1354585259 318612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it isn't an inheritance list either; it is only a partial ordering. < 1354585278 762253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1354585298 729173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION no good argue about not facts
< 1354585310 958567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1354585318 365456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1354585327 401627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you look very avuncular today < 1354585352 607286 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even then, for an inheritance list, omitting it does not mean it inherits everything or meaning it inherits anything which it will not inherit if you do include the list. And with import lists, no () means import everything, which is also different to mine. < 1354585371 586416 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, either way, it doesn't work. < 1354585514 463510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you may see what my logic is, although other ideas are still possible, such as something before or after each item, so you explicitly know the empty item. < 1354585931 423415 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354586646 878313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The file "interlocks.h" for Csound, is I cannot find a document of it, but I look at the other codes to try to figure it out, but still I don't know what SB and _QQ mean, and some codes also use 0x20 as an interlock value and I don't know what that means either. < 1354586882 595877 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354587114 226597 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define MEMDEF(x) x; typedef struct { x object[sizeof(x)<0xFF00?1:-1]; } x##__ < 1354587365 235221 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you used these kind of things in any C codes? < 1354587548 922154 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you even use that < 1354587712 535482 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.csounds.com/manual/html/csound5extending.html#AddmodAddSpace < 1354587769 673708 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that explain it to you? < 1354587866 565024 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :good grief, was this written for the IOCCC? < 1354587873 44463 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"f-rate streaming pvoc fsig type" < 1354587880 898304 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that counts as English < 1354587929 599610 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? Well, I don't think it was written for the IOCCC. < 1354587947 978907 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens when an array ends up with a -1 size anyways < 1354587955 54428 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get a compiler error. < 1354587957 436075 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that just a hacky and unreadable way to causing a compiler error? < 1354587990 10575 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't call it unreadable. < 1354587998 398547 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also where would you use that macro < 1354588003 279964 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "x;" at the start intrigues me < 1354588065 829357 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :typedef struct { OPDS h; MYFLT*ao; MYFLT*ai; } MEMDEF(mem_avecrev); < 1354588077 827498 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it comes at the end of a typedef < 1354588144 96873 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I once made a piece of software somethign like this thing thing < 1354588165 970323 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was graphical though. < 1354588225 472210 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I never really bothered coming up with interesting blocks < 1354588240 117867 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or modules or whatever you call them < 1354588275 519803 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if browsers are fast enough to do it in JavaScript these days < 1354588290 56103 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't trust JS when it comes to raw math performance < 1354588342 180499 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this is Csound; what software were you using? < 1354588458 62927 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1354588459 531170 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GCC? < 1354588472 384127 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was making my own thing from scratch. This was years ago < 1354588516 633530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did the program do? < 1354588528 819670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: How long have you had your nick? < 1354588535 523643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it always 38, or a different number once? < 1354588556 32072 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Always 38 < 1354588565 22848 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how long. < 1354588644 636477 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It made sounds < 1354588661 378812 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had basic waveform generators, ADSR, some filters, and MIDI input. < 1354588671 539197 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus a block that takes a chain and clones it for polyphony. < 1354588688 872498 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be kind of fun to make something like this with a physical interface < 1354588702 636766 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something that looks like an analog modular synthesizer but is really just a simulation. < 1354588708 679275 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's probably never going to happen < 1354588727 691695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do I really? < 1354588817 633487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just about ready to engage in some nepotism, i'd say < 1354588850 826810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hm, I was leaning toward despotism. < 1354588859 690609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those go well together < 1354590080 437095 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Csound does such things and even more, and probably could even be made to connect to a physical interface. < 1354590099 15889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a mental interface < 1354590151 356203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be possible too, I don't know < 1354590226 568093 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome seems to be seriously struggling with the new tab page < 1354590584 765591 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1354591599 106187 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1354591871 627756 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1354592021 57331 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai o/ something blew up somewhere near and caused a power failure <.< < 1354592040 569794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome c00kiemon5ter < 1354592048 88394 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :c00kiemon5ter: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354592060 565855 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've had this message before < 1354592071 675750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE c00kiemon5ter < 1354592076 866341 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :C00kIeMoN5TeR: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1354592100 940612 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1354592135 889715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i bet elliott still hasn't made the link work < 1354592808 288469 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354592882 344895 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354594489 730100 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1354596935 473491 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ell.io JOIN :#esoteric < 1354597334 311892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1354597704 401224 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354597722 860565 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354597933 244382 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354598271 811395 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354598775 683413 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354600639 541373 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354600639 614619 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354600639 614744 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354600833 305838 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354601022 853778 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354602199 985211 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-6.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1354602303 661420 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354602331 350016 :sebbu!~sebbu@adijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354602331 427868 :sebbu!~sebbu@adijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354602331 500990 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354605131 95578 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament is so positive and full of hope in the 2003 logs < 1354605167 532413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is lament? < 1354605172 321900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, 2003 < 1354605188 195767 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuck in 2003, how horrible. < 1354605207 937345 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354605216 767734 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, lament is moving forward in time. < 1354605220 893756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But unfortunately so are we. < 1354605226 867792 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'll always be 9 years ahead. :-( < 1354605240 398276 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Fiora < 1354605252 773186 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie hasn't changed a bit < 1354605380 734451 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : what with the topics on this channel, not a surprise (s?he|it) refused. < 1354605380 972894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm stuck in 2003 too. < 1354605437 413340 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how old are you and how old is lament? < 1354605498 735151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't this old then. < 1354605515 627406 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm looking for a number < 1354605533 185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :29 now, I think. < 1354605599 327233 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354605633 228130 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1354605657 597010 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about the age of lament(ation). < 1354605689 139517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lament of their women, as Conan says. < 1354605718 306317 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : yay, ten people! < 1354605737 731096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should Proce have command to specify external input/output? < 1354605739 887103 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so weird < 1354605748 157044 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise, it doesn't do much. < 1354605805 187319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, sixty-eight people! < 1354605809 767665 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still including clog! < 1354605820 520454 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You count as people too! < 1354605821 18838 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: before the renaissance, western mathematics was pretty shitty on the notation side. < 1354605843 659449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: That's a direct quote, you lazy. < 1354605844 248943 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it is used or something like that wouldn't be equally tricky if you want < 1354605856 729257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That probably isn't. Though you never know. < 1354605959 232808 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : and i made a 3D bf with the IP being a SPACESHIP (now that's REAL COOL, right?), then i made a lang called metafuck, where you can execute the memory with it's own nulled memory < 1354605961 1495 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. < 1354605972 115176 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i just sarcastic from the beginning < 1354606009 92962 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-300.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems i've calmed down quite a bit in any case < 1354606616 164917 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Quit: ifnspifn < 1354607031 998937 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1354608017 326110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : /o/ < 1354608021 683372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi? < 1354608486 756361 :Sgeo|web!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 QUIT 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:carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354612454 795824 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1354612475 307787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: omg that takes ages :D < 1354612486 542308 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1354612519 991381 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354612624 14438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: or maybe its my function :o < 1354613032 767684 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354613844 750990 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354613902 778114 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354614685 544953 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354615988 944614 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1354616582 860867 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1354625266 632160 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long time no see! < 1354625641 749473 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354625777 103915 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Quit: KEEP SPARKS. FLAME AWAY. < 1354625805 122820 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354626214 103624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ asiekierka < 1354626227 621582 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ＡＳＩＥＫＩＥＲＫＡ：　ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ　ＴＯ　ＴＨＥ　ＩＮＴＥＲＮＡＴＩＯＮＡＬ　ＨＵＢ　ＦＯＲ　ＥＳＯＴＥＲＩＣ　ＰＲＯＧＲＡＭＭＩＮＧ　ＬＡＮＧＵＡＧＥ　ＤＥＳＩＧＮ　ＡＮＤ　ＤＥＰＬＯＹＭＥＮＴ！　ＦＯＲ　ＭＯＲＥ　ＩＮＦＯＲＭＡＴＩＯＮ，　ＣＨＥＣＫ　ＯＵＴ　ＯＵＲ　ＷＩＫＩ：　ＨＴＴＰ：／／ＥＳＯＬ < 1354626310 33519 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354626616 649893 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1354627072 179459 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's so big. < 1354627175 884999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, this monitor developed a full-height vertical line of always-on blue pixels in the 354th column. It is visible also in the monitor startup logo splash and in different graphics modes. < 1354627223 759044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is a fault. < 1354627277 134252 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1354627291 338983 :nooga!~nooga@public-gprs364147.centertel.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354627311 214379 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :>354th column < 1354627313 355088 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah the accuracy < 1354627322 696891 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354627335 215393 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1354627391 777447 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354627424 89218 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be the 353th or the 355th column, to be honest. < 1354627454 469408 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta be more accurate br < 1354627455 564096 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1354627458 311193 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get a magnifying glass < 1354627480 702991 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1354627614 391842 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354627669 395071 :nooga_!~nooga@public-gprs358739.centertel.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354627841 728244 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354627874 336737 :nooga!~nooga@public-gprs364147.centertel.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354628983 640744 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354628983 751590 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Changing host < 1354628983 751716 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1354628992 547446 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@195.206.224.58 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354629203 972718 :nooga_!~nooga@public-gprs358739.centertel.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354629317 330226 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354630413 408968 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are you using a iMac? < 1354630478 179142 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a friend with an iMac who developed the same problem (though he did not tell me the number of the column). Later on the monitor developed a second column like that, except purple instead of blue. < 1354630681 446646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's just a monitor. < 1354630689 881426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some old Fujitsu-Siemens leftover. < 1354630904 430889 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hi < 1354630923 640240 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's not *my* monitor. I'd be more dismayed if it were.) < 1354630929 61914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well HELLO THERE. < 1354631189 299208 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so elliott have you started that fortress < 1354631203 684913 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie has < 1354631266 965047 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good < 1354631275 421226 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie can be counted on < 1354631277 627404 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's dependable < 1354631295 952671 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :relatedly, < 1354631300 417000 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: help me with SSL thanks ! < 1354631328 566238 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: is 107.5.152.253 you? < 1354631712 130819 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1354631755 754164 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, that's me. < 1354631793 515536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=///&curid=1636&diff=34935&oldid=33068 hides a link to a user page which is a no-go by the wiki policies < 1354631804 801777 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1354631815 53075 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case, no, that's not me. < 1354631828 110863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I wanted to know so I could ask what you wanted done :P < 1354631837 315741 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be easy to make a [[Tanner Swett]] stub that linked to the user page, that would suffice < 1354631845 730767 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just changed it to "Tanner Swett ([[User:Ihope127]])". < 1354631862 756645 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you mean 107.5.152.253 did :P < 1354631872 217822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, anyway < 1354631872 733137 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes. < 1354631882 881526 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should really fix it so that links to the /// page actually work again < 1354631945 922210 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354632957 497934 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The process of constructing instruction tables should be very fascinating. There need be no real danger of it ever becoming a drudge, for any processes that are quite mechanical may be turned over to the machine itself." -- Turing < 1354633023 672121 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm hungry." -- Nathan "Taneb" van Doorn < 1354633379 829260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nice < 1354633433 555677 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :via http://arcanesentiment.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/there-need-be-no-real-danger-of-it-ever.html via http://alarmingdevelopment.org/?p=711, fwiw < 1354633438 338660 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are those vias the wrong way around < 1354633667 254640 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354635975 814823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :blind vias and buried vias < 1354636234 80567 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the last character in a /// program si \ what happens? < 1354636325 246783 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If the character is \, the character after it (if any) is printed and both characters are removed from the program." < 1354636344 662794 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, if any < 1354636876 871022 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that description is less than clear admittedly (I wrote it) < 1354637084 775493 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354637103 741105 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354638894 84561 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354639057 479784 :Taneb!~Taneb@mail.qehs.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354639130 941304 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354640900 464531 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354642989 8662 :hey!8bbea1c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.190.161.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354642993 528535 :hey!8bbea1c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.190.161.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1354642997 824493 :hey!8bbea1c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.190.161.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every one < 1354643009 722858 :hey!8bbea1c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.190.161.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For programmer HELLO WORLD :) < 1354643012 643718 :hey!8bbea1c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.190.161.199 NICK :Guest89142 < 1354643040 140269 :Guest89142!8bbea1c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.190.161.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1354643046 553275 :Guest89142!8bbea1c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.190.161.199 PART :#esoteric < 1354643204 783556 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhhhhhhhh kay < 1354643219 718494 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :hey hey hey everyone for programmer HELLO WORLD! | Logs: http://5z8.info/turkeyporn_o4u1vn_molotovcocktail#gobblegobble < 1354643230 633384 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohwait < 1354643233 888880 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :hey hey hey every one for programmer HELLO WORLD! | Logs: http://5z8.info/turkeyporn_o4u1vn_molotovcocktail#gobblegobble < 1354646125 911668 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1354646618 118403 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354646799 812719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that missing a hey. < 1354646803 187744 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Did you make Proce esolang? I think there should be the way to specify external input/output? < 1354646810 521697 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey hey hey every one hey for programmer HELLO WORLD. < 1354646811 483814 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: No, it is missing a key. < 1354646828 317679 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I opted to paraphrase. < 1354646864 406953 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the log URL is missing a percentage sign. < 1354647931 488985 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1354647931 604444 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1354647936 905393 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1354647946 849661 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1354648030 510419 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a hey after HELLO WORLD! too < 1354648088 42466 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey hey, hello world hey ... has a nice ring to it somehow < 1354648102 78545 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1354648123 289971 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1354648124 466640 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can no longer visit the page "///" on the wiki for some reason < 1354648144 143491 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has been like this for months because I am lazy and awful < 1354648147 2733 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can go to "Slashes" instaed < 1354648149 894601 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*instead < 1354648150 627077 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know < 1354648150 968152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1354648153 193375 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will fix it sometime < 1354648162 844742 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, the language list redirects you to /// < 1354648437 578585 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1354648443 68191 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could change that < 1354648482 438020 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, never mind, it does redirect you to Slashes < 1354648694 276908 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I did make Proce, yeah, and there's no one obvious way to do I/O. < 1354648716 64139 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1354648786 137537 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: To me would seem, should have some line indicating the outputs and inputs? < 1354648816 419708 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might try to implement this, as a Csound plugin. < 1354650385 515805 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Do you think that may be reasonable way doing I/O? < 1354650394 882268 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, do you want a different way? < 1354650830 808515 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you program Mozilla to finish loading the HTML before attempting to load any CSS, script, images, etc? < 1354650883 920252 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finish loading or finish rendering? < 1354651042 416643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both. < 1354651075 428977 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well for one you should probably upgrade to firefox or seamonkey but I think that is not what you mean < 1354651080 182961 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I"m pretty sure you need CSS and some scripts before it can be rendered properly < 1354651150 548431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the Mozilla engine (so that includes Firefox and so on) < 1354651159 52849 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gecko? < 1354651162 208074 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-116.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354651169 576018 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-116.elisa.ee PART :#esoteric < 1354651177 428229 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you insane enough to tamper with mariner? < 1354651309 306389 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it could be rendered not too bad, if you don't use the CSS/scripts; it should display placeholders for images, and if for any reason it cannot finish rendering, it ought to still be required to finish loading first. < 1354651317 576259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then render as much as possible, before loading the rest. < 1354651350 454289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1354651367 368407 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1354651573 771466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1354651758 13340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : /o/ < 1354651764 619425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1354651769 502561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1354651769 814228 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o| |o| |o/ \m/ \m/ |o/ \o/ \o| \m/ \m/ \o| |o| |o/ < 1354651780 950884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh noes < 1354651782 959602 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi...... < 1354651822 968034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks distinctly idle < 1354651829 795209 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor guys, their heads and arms are all chopped off < 1354651989 553886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: hi < 1354652644 122314 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: There are also some disembodied hands. < 1354652930 776218 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354653043 808642 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354653066 398203 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354653066 472119 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354653078 511207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can FM synthesis be done with acoustics rather than electronics? < 1354653158 327655 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that almost how humans speak? < 1354653172 409505 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1354653183 876148 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Nah < 1354653195 652922 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Human speech is really more of resonance and resonant filtering < 1354653200 321944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I mean using strings and pipes and so on, not using speech. < 1354653202 6793 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could, at least to some extent < 1354653224 878349 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354653241 214037 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :FM works by taking an oscillation and using it to change the frequency of another oscillation < 1354653251 187812 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there is PM which changes the phase instead < 1354653259 79266 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason synthesiser companies call PM FM < 1354653412 334262 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there is, frequency modulation, phase modulation, but is there duty modulation? < 1354653441 955758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pulse-width modulation? < 1354653459 108188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "squarewave" command in my Csound plugin could probably duty modulation too since the duty is an x-rate parameter < 1354653486 22686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I guess it is like that. < 1354653523 617049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still with this command, the frequency is also x-rate, so you could make both the frequency and duty to be modulated. < 1354653721 983252 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354653990 971020 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"FM" as a general term certainly doesn't really require the modulating signal to be an LFO or any sort of oscillator; the pitch effects of human speech (which work by altering the vocal fold oscillation frequency) are arguably rather clear examples of FM. (The bit that generally carries all "content", i.e. the frequency responses of the resonant filters, perhaps not so much.) < 1354654014 383737 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: of course the speech recognition researcher jumps to the voice < 1354654018 482193 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all about speech recognition!! < 1354654041 717196 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ever heard of the Commodore 64? < 1354654098 413436 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1354654155 670134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1354654161 515410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one pole, washed away < 1354654194 554015 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354654226 838967 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354654539 846761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It was someone else who brought up the voice topic. < 1354654578 13895 :yorberth_puente!~canaima@201.249.0.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354654713 642555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome yorberth_puente < 1354654718 433719 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorberth_puente: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354654819 47316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone ever talk about deployment in here? < 1354654843 551973 :yorberth_puente!~canaima@201.249.0.183 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1354654844 619453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/welcome < 1354654847 706753 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$//; s/ +/ @ /g; exec "bin/@", $_ . " ? welcome"; } else { exec "bin/?", "welcome"; } < 1354654872 986815 :arcatan!arcatan@hilla.kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 tips for deploying brainfuck in production < 1354654874 624142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wc -c bin/welcome < 1354654877 882582 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :135 bin/welcome < 1354654887 918705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin < 1354654891 12820 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? \ @ \ No \ WELCOME \ WeLcOmE \ addquote \ addquotee \ allquotes \ anonlog \ calc \ define \ delquote \ delquotee \ etymology \ forget \ fortune \ frink \ fuck \ google \ hatesgeo \ hi \ joustreport \ jousturl \ json \ k \ karma \ karma+ \ karma- \ learn \ log \ logurl \ macro \ maketext \ marco \ paste \ pastefortunes \ pastekarma \ pastelog \ pastelogs \ pastenquotes \ pastequotes \ pastewisdom \ pastlog \ ping < 1354654906 131329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/\? < 1354654909 4402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/\? < 1354654909 259203 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/\?: No such file or directory < 1354654911 963720 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | tr A-Z a-z) \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] || { echo "$1? ¯\(°_o)/¯"; exit 1; } \ cat "wisdom/$topic" \ < 1354654918 262553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/welcome < 1354654921 914049 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354654933 383006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/ and deployment//' < 1354654936 975005 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: no input files < 1354654938 466985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/ and deployment//' wisdom/welcome < 1354654941 767641 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1354654959 391915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome fizzie < 1354654962 842715 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354655016 736884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! I thought it was like mediums and channeling and angel healing. < 1354655140 191286 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and angle grinding < 1354655309 819293 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :angle grinding? < 1354655321 516884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :An acute case of angels. < 1354655354 649540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a book at the book store called Angels in My Hair. Plus two further books "from the author of Angels in My Hair". < 1354655390 703104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In this uplifting autobiography, a modern-day Irish mystic shares her vivid encounters and conversations with the angels and spirits she has known her entire life." < 1354655409 287115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For as long as she can remember, Lorna Byrne has seen angels. As a young child, she assumed everyone could see the otherworldly beings who always accompanied her. Yet in the eyes of adults, her abnormal behavior was a symptom of mental deficiency. Today, sick and troubled people from around the world are drawn to her for comfort and healing, and even theologians of different faiths seek her ... < 1354655415 730576 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... guidance." ...yeah. < 1354655430 153921 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just think! People dared to think she might have something wrong in the head department. < 1354655465 15110 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354655520 707653 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how despicable < 1354655537 466973 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354656101 263259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354656177 26928 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, otoh this /is/ in ireland < 1354656393 355550 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mean the other hand is under ireland? < 1354656489 441513 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1354656532 460974 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could also mean mayonnaise < 1354656567 773826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gently fails at sweeping norwegian princess Märtha Louise under the rug
< 1354656595 865524 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pithy observation i was leading up to is that irish culture isn't really one of hardline rationalism < 1354656683 36824 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, why, is she nuts < 1354656715 118614 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :her wikipedia doesn't make her sound /that/ much crazier than prince charles < 1354656839 316902 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that's like "not /that/ much hotter than the sun" or "not /that/ much wetter than the Atlantic Ocean". Or, y'know, "not /that/ much less usable than Haskell" < 1354656848 905413 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry. contractual obligation) < 1354656852 594266 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not a very good troll < 1354656854 669156 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354656866 876062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury is back? < 1354656874 101769 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, well, you can't fire me. Trolls have an /awesome/ union < 1354656880 528555 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's a struct, I'm not sure < 1354656885 618407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is he the climate change denialist tory < 1354656887 844244 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :its members might not overlap < 1354656894 865159 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354656894 938114 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354656894 938250 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354656896 608804 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm afraid I am < 1354656906 702723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_M%C3%A4rtha_Louise_of_Norway#Spirituality_school_controversy anyway < 1354656910 430509 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm not a tory! I'm an anarcho-capitalist libertarian < 1354656922 119983 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there /is/ a difference < 1354656964 783743 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354656988 466744 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, well obviously i already read that < 1354656989 840567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :23E4 STRAIGHTNESS [⏤] < 1354656989 998064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :23E5 FLATNESS [⏥] < 1354656994 196689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you know those? < 1354656994 739566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1354657005 993788 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se TOPIC #esoteric :Use angels and your own power to create miracles in the logs: http://5z8.info/turkeyporn_o4u1vn_molotovcocktail#gobblegobble < 1354657058 581550 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, not helping with the 'no, not that kind of esoteric' problem < 1354657074 530293 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354657077 604061 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not exactly trying to :) < 1354657079 855809 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, we never talk about esolangs /anyway/, what does it matter? < 1354657100 232251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we do too! several times a week, sometimes < 1354657101 89452 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, except when we talk about Haskell) <-- seriously guys, it says in my contract that I have to do this. < 1354657141 183453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: the contract also says what eventually happens to your soul, i take < 1354657144 964251 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not funny now, and i'm not sure it ever was < 1354657152 602512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is signed in blood < 1354657153 738320 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked today's Critical Miss < 1354657169 351770 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :being self-aware of one's idiocy does not excuse it < 1354657220 165410 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I just wanted to make sure everyone could remember who I was. I'll stop now < 1354657231 418565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury isn't identical to fax? just checking. < 1354657232 999443 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless there are any /really good/ opportunities, then I might be unable to resist) < 1354657243 426724 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, they're both british < 1354657254 208060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax is british? < 1354657271 307517 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they made clangers references < 1354657272 761683 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am most assuredly /not/ a low-resolution image transmission system < 1354657284 56979 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Quick, talk about esolangs! < 1354657287 795654 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there may have been other things also < 1354657288 435757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1354657305 564423 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo Hello there. < 1354657305 878420 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello there. Hello there. < 1354657307 870787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1354657314 522415 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are you okay? < 1354657315 23327 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i took up emacs so i can do < 1354657317 266970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you have something AGAINST esolangs there? < 1354657317 693460 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: look to the past.... < 1354657325 514622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spooky. < 1354657326 254812 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is fungot's "echo" supposed to... well... echo like that? < 1354657326 745273 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: manipulating xml as sexps?) or you can < 1354657328 776425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :experience, clearly < 1354657333 231039 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh you've upset fungot < 1354657333 609803 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's the return of the last < 1354657341 376699 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what's your view on angels and other otherworldly beings? < 1354657341 925831 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well i'm mentioning theoretical image to be dumped in rain forests of laukaa. < 1354657343 954040 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, sexps! < 1354657348 326260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: of course, it wouldn't me much of an echo if it only said things _once_, would it? < 1354657367 152801 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo a duck's quack < 1354657367 544809 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a duck's quack a duck's quack < 1354657375 893142 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that disproves /that/ urban legend! < 1354657390 839340 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I'm very bored and not a little drowsy < 1354657401 532531 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this may lead to minor outbursts of insanity < 1354657422 860292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a drow! kill it! < 1354657440 967568 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you think of APL? < 1354657441 657387 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: it was the joke. shriram krishnamurthi was saying that the headings should always use the -sign for arrays.... not insert /way/ better alternative. < 1354657459 849926 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay < 1354657467 162483 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you think of AAPL? < 1354657468 79318 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: upper management latched on to anything with a suxor name...) construct where parts of app pass procedures to compose: ( ( (1 2 3) < 1354657485 980050 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's almost true! < 1354657509 143756 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, why wouldn't it be? < 1354657515 111620 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot always speak the truth < 1354657515 646422 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you can request fnord at a distance 5000 feet.) mention what you managed to install fnord < 1354657542 454105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote fungot: what's your view on angels and other otherworldly beings? olsner: well i'm mentioning theoretical image to be dumped in rain forests of laukaa. < 1354657543 15340 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i have access to your screen sessions, most of the time < 1354657545 721361 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :863) fungot: what's your view on angels and other otherworldly beings? olsner: well i'm mentioning theoretical image to be dumped in rain forests of laukaa. < 1354657570 275569 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'd be afraid if I were you < 1354657581 68477 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't want fungot messing with my screen sessions < 1354657581 430429 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: iso media, apple quicktime movie < 1354657582 941604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that would be worrisome if i used screen < 1354657605 15459 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, the mere fact of using screen would be worrisome < 1354657628 478398 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: fungot has actually been known to lie, but usually he corrupts the hard disks of anyone who has a log of the event < 1354657628 976384 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: can you see pretty easily what's going on? < 1354657652 567556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: DON'T ANSWER THAT < 1354657665 359136 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ircing #esoteric through screen would give fungot access to your screen session < 1354657665 778033 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: wait a sec :) just store the symbols and labels)? < 1354657667 872146 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo access < 1354657674 114690 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: *I* can pretty easily see what's going on. < 1354657674 568413 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: it's definitively no toy environment'. it's great < 1354657681 698222 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION chortles. Fnordingly.
< 1354657710 319566 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1354657710 600908 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1354657723 336763 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, don't you want to talk to me? < 1354657724 280875 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: methinkx it was the fastest back then; the guile people are slow to calculate them lazily. that is < 1354657745 346922 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354657750 725592 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: back then, huh? < 1354657750 909001 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: or is there another way < 1354657787 578475 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yeah the guile people *are* slow, aren't they? < 1354657788 216218 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: if i want to mail a poor teacher a copy?). having to pack values into a monad moot. < 1354657802 859483 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :must... resist... temptation... to mock monads... < 1354657827 989891 :arcatan!arcatan@hilla.kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mock monads so they're easier to test < 1354657845 304466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh this again < 1354657878 28824 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what would happen if I were to pack soundnfury into a monad, do you suppose? < 1354657878 466808 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: i think it's gotta run at fnord < 1354657894 610778 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yes, obviously it would < 1354657895 698539 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: and we want to switch back and forth, but if i was you, i'd leave him. everyone has hated him since. the end. < 1354657905 558029 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's sad < 1354657907 552951 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1354658017 536492 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is used to being hated
< 1354658021 582390 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but being hated by a bot? < 1354658026 29676 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just low < 1354658061 301489 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: let's talk about Feather. What would be a good name for a Feather interpreter? < 1354658061 777016 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: let me rephrase! " captive market" anybody? < 1354658076 759461 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Perfect, thanks! < 1354658077 237880 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: care to describe it. < 1354658105 884429 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what should be the foundation of my next esolang? I'm thinking something involving ed < 1354658106 407409 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: if my macro does not. cmuscheme.el does. < 1354658109 909501 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, first I'll implement it in some other language, then retroactively host it in Feather all the way down < 1354658150 799489 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quill < 1354658153 298265 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: soo... reimplement ed in lisp, or reimplement emacs on top of ed? < 1354658154 84635 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: we disagree about where it was revealed that the health service had a hospital running for several months and come back < 1354658154 162979 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot wants GreyKnight to describe the inner workings of this Feather interpreter? oh god. < 1354658154 659268 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: if you used a proper xml production library that can be used as a teaching language. < 1354658173 578123 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised how relevant he manages to be < 1354658186 744441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: IT'S A TRAP < 1354658195 153478 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S A TARP < 1354658210 665550 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but I'm not quite sure what the relevance of the NHS is to my question about ed-macs < 1354658246 54073 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what's your favourite programming paradigm? < 1354658246 882478 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: so it's two proof, after which you can ask < 1354658276 436367 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you should sell ed-macs systems to the hospitals < 1354658327 97956 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: nah, they already have MUMPS < 1354658769 951085 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I am actually going to call it captive-market now, just FYI < 1354658871 252202 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight, you aren't trying to write a feather interpreter are you < 1354658891 895950 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can neither confirm nor deny this statement < 1354658921 841245 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1354658943 343613 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would the TardisT monad transformer be useful for writing a feather interpreter < 1354659006 11690 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it take up less memory than it contains < 1354659028 525711 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1354659031 972694 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask me again in the past < 1354659096 925009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did, don't you remember? < 1354659168 157629 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yes < 1354659197 529079 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a different note, I'm listening to songs I don't really like in a language I don't speak a word of < 1354659202 933959 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I really see soundnfury saying bullshit about haskell in the logs yet another day < 1354659208 776083 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you just go away forever or something < 1354659220 870415 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: why? < 1354659232 722680 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, TO PERFECT MY ROLEPLAY < 1354659253 920906 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wraps soundnfury in a monad
< 1354659260 800771 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh no, don't you see? he's saying bullshit about haskell ironically < 1354659265 630721 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes him funny and interesting < 1354659275 829646 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting proposition! < 1354659286 879991 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i disagree and offer instead the proposition that it just makes him even more pointless < 1354659304 68733 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl soundnfury < 1354659304 290633 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury < 1354659307 175104 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1354659312 251580 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's as pointless as they get < 1354659319 457722 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's being pointless ironically too! < 1354659324 978020 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl soundnfury < 1354659325 230448 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury < 1354659365 718975 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354659403 703354 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, really, it's just noise < 1354659432 897493 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's like the fixed point of pointlessness < 1354659432 975370 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1354659729 202979 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't Y combinate me! < 1354659738 941691 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1354659745 529714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please < 1354659749 128793 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is embarrassing for everyone < 1354659780 180973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not embarrassed!!!!!!!!! < 1354659800 637523 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just tiredly shaking my head < 1354659823 312989 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im smiling. hello soundnfury!!!welcome to esoteric < 1354659829 838615 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello monqy < 1354659850 170269 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting… < 1354659856 797144 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I annoyed elliott by making a couple of haskell jibes < 1354659864 259729 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm sure he'll get over it eventually < 1354659864 772170 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfff that'd annoy anyone < 1354659867 791319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : FireFly, TO PERFECT MY ROLEPLAY <-- is this quenya, sindarin, klingon or something else? < 1354659876 887033 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry about it : ) < 1354659902 421601 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354659927 973178 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes soundnfury, elliott was annoyed to a positive fervour by the sick burns you landed on haskell < 1354659939 839113 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354659942 413350 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your attitude to life would make willy loman proud < 1354659958 680460 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: well it's more that you literally say nothing of value and have apparently created your "#esoteric persona" entirely around saying dumb things about haskell that nobody even cares about (because who cares about the opinions of someone who clearly knows nothing about haskell??) < 1354659959 943121 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Y pointlessness) < 1354659960 608204 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354659985 362839 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you live up to your name i.e. told by an idiot, signifying nothing < 1354659988 856402 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: elliott's right!!! i know you only as "the haskellphobe" < 1354659992 227755 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1354659993 348584 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I do occasionally talk about other things < 1354659996 722043 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-200.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354659999 935444 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, actual esolangs < 1354660013 768730 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe it would be good if you didn't drown that out with that dumbness < 1354660030 245260 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe if there were more esolang talk in here there'd be something for me to talk about that wasn't dumb < 1354660084 329463 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :case in point: what does some irish lass who thinks she talks to angels have to do with esolangs? < 1354660092 236159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well so clearly you don't like the contents of this channel < 1354660097 74179 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead of feebly "trolling" the people inside < 1354660098 708040 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just go away < 1354660109 983551 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I /do/ like the thing this channel is ostensibly about < 1354660120 149877 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: thats not what the channel is actually about. shoo < 1354660122 608146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you are going to troll it in the hopes it becomes off-topic??? < 1354660124 412756 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by talking about < 1354660127 314131 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something off-topic < 1354660141 187601 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see how this can possibly have a productive end... you're freely admitting you are trying to bother us because you don't like what we talk about < 1354660159 274471 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what is the meaning of life? < 1354660159 750362 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: ' ( 1 2) ( scheme-report-environment 5) < 1354660177 945426 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm not actually trying to bother you < 1354660199 461574 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, scheme. Of course. < 1354660205 632433 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just have difficulty resisting the opportunities to direct childish humour at Haskell when I happen to be bored < 1354660229 753391 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1354660233 844010 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since, on days when I'm /not/ bored, there's not usually any conversation in this channel to join in with productively, < 1354660240 573428 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you will find everyone in the channel either doesn't care about it or is bothered by it < 1354660244 922341 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only tend to hear from me when I'm bored < 1354660247 969256 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, *I'm* going to sleep < 1354660250 221721 :GreyKnight!~GK@host86-146-80-103.range86-146.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: zzz < 1354660262 644549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so perhaps restrain yourself?? or just don't join when you're bored < 1354660270 68612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i was just going to xkcd him < 1354660295 452070 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually do restrain myself, but you don't see that, you only see the cases when my restraint fails < 1354660309 205139 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, try not to hate me /too/ much for not being perfect at restraint < 1354660369 379118 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354660401 378814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically soundnfury had been here for hours before i noticed he was, of course that _was_ when he mentioned haskell. < 1354660452 464912 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you have a person the vast majority of who's (total pro grammar) contribution to the channel is to fail to restrain themselves and say dumb things then that's pretty suboptimal imo < 1354660490 539250 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmers are in favour of syntax. Erm, I mean... they're pro grammar. < 1354660501 702962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whose" yw < 1354660507 84928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell... more like FUCK SKULL am i right < 1354660514 488933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no, i am not) < 1354660551 321493 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354660567 814552 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good morrow, hail and well met. Prithee tell me how thou farest this day. < 1354660573 225371 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell more like who would ever use a language with no I/O and you can't have variables???????am i right < 1354660578 61628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok you are allowed to dis haskell here. but you have to do it in the type system. < 1354660631 749984 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i hear they represent strings as multiply-boxed linked lists!!! ha ha ha < 1354660632 632777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only because the kind system isn't powerful enough yet. < 1354660634 838777 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :( ) < 1354660657 860184 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :be kind to your type system. or is that a category error? < 1354660731 762016 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :On an unrelated topic, can someone give me architectural advice on a project I'm working on? < 1354660757 367773 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a programmable text editor (-ish thing) in Python... < 1354660760 531972 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1354660762 813579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, http://hauptwerk.blogspot.no/2012/11/coming-soon-in-ghc-head-poly-kinded.html is _clearly_ relevant < 1354660778 629083 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort it out yourself, or ask people you haven't systematically annoyed < 1354660812 309556 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: but annoyed people can give good advice, under a set of implausible assumptions I won't list here < 1354661026 70257 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i annoyed enough to give good advice ? < 1354661028 759347 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to know the channel is getting back on topic < 1354661034 542211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esotexteditors < 1354661064 213250 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :python is esoteric if you think about it hard enough < 1354661074 108505 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eschew's the common wisdom to use lexical scoping < 1354661082 566061 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that's innovation < 1354661090 960940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost lexical scoping < 1354661118 805145 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i think python 3 gets it right? < 1354661119 464454 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1354661121 904202 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"right" anyway < 1354661124 422517 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Another cool thing is that now even type classes can have Typeable instances; since we allow abstraction over Constraint, datatypes may have parameters involving the Constraint kind, so to support Typeable for those datatypes, we need to support Typeable for type classes in general (as pointed out by Gábor Lehel)." < 1354661129 780501 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the future < 1354661139 715635 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an instance Typeable Typeable..... < 1354661157 495109 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a future in which the future is syb < 1354661157 881781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy god < 1354661222 688480 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's python's scoping like < 1354661222 922721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Want to write alongside for traversals? < 1354661226 19807 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds juicy < 1354661255 332784 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :are these lens shenanigans related to syb? < 1354661266 373784 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. < 1354661273 276081 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should add that the first part of it I'm implementing is actually an emulated `ed' session < 1354661315 6719 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1354661325 782151 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck off and ask someone who cares < 1354661339 56465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: perhaps bonghits will fix your emulated `ed' session < 1354661365 60267 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh. I was assuming you'd continue to maintain a pretense of civility < 1354661370 740593 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: if you write "x = 3" in a nested function, it puts a binding in your most local frame, not in whatever frame (if any) originally defined 'x' < 1354661373 805219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :big whoop imo < 1354661382 320220 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury, ass of u and me, etc. < 1354661385 900148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of like scheme's 'define' vs 'set!' < 1354661389 452731 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Python 3 you can say nonlocal x < 1354661400 332972 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonlocal? what a nice keyword < 1354661410 98969 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry wait no, you haven't made an ass of me at all < 1354661413 770072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this arises because python doesn't have a distinction between declaring a variable and assigning to one < 1354661413 903522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, local definitions like that may sometimes be useful in macros, although Haskell has bad support for macros anyways. < 1354661414 329563 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well, they couldn't call it "global", that was taken < 1354661416 842580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which even scheme does kinda < 1354661419 937430 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, does that mean "sane x" or just "different x" < 1354661429 258756 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are simply digging your own fetid little hole ever-deeper < 1354661433 675339 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354661440 628781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used macros like that in C, though. < 1354661452 336364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other thing about python is that 'for' loops and friends don't create new scopes; they mutate the counter variable in the function's scope < 1354661457 239248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :however many languages work this way < 1354661461 917560 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: funny, it doesn't look that way to me < 1354661487 896276 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some additional weirdness with generator expressions tho < 1354661493 863654 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how choosing the wrong name for the iteration variable in a for loop causes bugs after the for loop < 1354661500 498569 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, your lack of perspective is one of your major flaws < 1354661507 425004 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I haven't even /mentioned/ a certain language even though several other people have < 1354661509 639122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see #3 here: http://web.archive.org/web/20101009122154/http://web.mit.edu/rwbarton/www/python.html < 1354661522 916539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I heard you were going to get that back up on the real Internet. < 1354661525 448330 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I expected you to indicate any awareness of my restraint when present < 1354661547 636441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so one of you has to go otherwise this dumb argument will continue on to infinity < 1354661550 395278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vote soundnfury < 1354661573 668321 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been /trying/ to let go, but Phantom_Hoover doesn't seem to like that idea < 1354661647 74081 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cute how you think you can just act obnoxiously and expect everyone to 'let go' < 1354661653 593755 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, i vote soundnfury also < 1354661770 72593 :soundnfury!~edward@cpc36-cmbg15-2-0-cust160.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, how about that other topic of conversation that isn't a pointless argument between me and Phantom_Hoover, eh? <-- if someone can provide one, I'd be grateful < 1354661798 99414 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no we'd be perfectly content for you to simply shut up < 1354661803 207188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or get kicked < 1354661811 802012 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vote both soundnfury and Phantom_Hoover shut up < 1354662072 366612 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pandyland.net/random/?comicid=722779190 < 1354662079 509987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Remember that one time I said nonsense in #haskell? < 1354662082 13664 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read somewhere, making up cards of Magic: the Gathering only involving the name of itself and the text of the comprehensive rules. One card is a enchantment called "Nirvana" with text: Goblins cannot reach Nirvana. < 1354662120 568150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yep < 1354662128 904405 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I interpret it to mean that, if this card ever becomes a creature, and gains flying, then the reach ability does not permit other creatures to block it if those creatures have the "Goblin" creature type. < 1354662186 466172 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354662226 481024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: nice < 1354662234 321644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :any other good examples? < 1354662238 151075 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1354662258 654397 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The closest thing to “ nonsense” i could find was “ What nonsense?” on 2012-11-20. < 1354662275 944413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Don't logread me! < 1354662300 755362 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't have other examples, sorry. < 1354662636 618177 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION -> sleep
< 1354662639 521308 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354662779 6580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the enchantment itself has to become a creature? < 1354662803 1277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, I think it would have to become a creature with flying before its text would have any effect on the game. < 1354662860 707949 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354663104 462234 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quoth Wikipedia: In 1864, Congress authorized a third series of fractional currency notes. The five-cent note was to bear a depiction of "Clark", but Congress was appalled when the issue came out not with a portrait of William Clark, the explorer, but Spencer M. Clark, head of the Currency Bureau. According to numismatic historian Walter Breen, Congress's "immediate infuriated response was to pass a law retiring the five-cent denomination, and another to forbid p < 1354663104 575720 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ortrayal of any living person on federal coins or currency." < 1354663112 936288 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That guy is the greatest troll in history X-D < 1354663226 413063 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll give that a chuckle and an imaginary slow clap and/or applause < 1354663557 725672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/04/one-in-four-americans-has-an-opinion-about-an-imaginary-debt-plan/ < 1354663899 46346 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PPP is pretty awesome. I like their twitter. < 1354663923 286299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i didn't even notice it was them < 1354663924 502535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Point-to-Point Protocol? < 1354663933 228339 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ppppolls < 1354663979 386185 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Public Policy Polling, I think. < 1354663986 228568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, they re-tweeted someone asking "Could @ppppolls be any more blatantly biased?" < 1354664001 70362 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were retweeting people ranting at them all throughout November. < 1354664006 677386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't even respond < 1354664009 654930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like their style < 1354664012 777399 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the ones about how Romney was totally going to win, etc < 1354664035 741711 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(I don't remember getting a single phone call in response to that video, although the crazy voice mails did blend together at some point)" < 1354664045 229431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"49% of GOP voters nationally say they think that ACORN stole the election for President Obama. We found that 52% of Republicans thought that ACORN stole the 2008 election for Obama, so this is a modest decline, but perhaps smaller than might have been expected given that ACORN doesn't exist anymore." < 1354664060 966735 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pffff < 1354664081 272312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also point out that "One reason that such a high percentage of Republicans are holding what could be seen as extreme views is that their numbers are declining" < 1354664100 762848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody remotely sane is being driven out of the party < 1354664104 764078 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they also record the percentage of people identifying as republican in that poll? < 1354664109 278199 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember it went down a lot lately < 1354664110 46268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of wonderful as well < 1354664115 1869 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1354664120 510442 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a fun implosion to watch < 1354664125 898968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know about that poll specifically but they say it went down from 37% to 32% at the election < 1354664212 397859 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354664274 9084 :example!4d557a90@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.85.122.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354664318 251833 :example!4d557a90@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.85.122.144 PART :#esoteric < 1354664419 772195 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354665089 867030 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354665105 537759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hird elliott likes vault. < 1354665128 81772 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Death Metal Fat Cat Drum Cover http://youtu.be/yWcak9tZupc < 1354665139 970625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo elliott, i hird you like vault, so i put a vault in your vault < 1354665194 329201 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see what you did there. < 1354665340 203744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1354665354 554370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Remember back when I did that "u mad" thing? < 1354665364 344847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that #esoteric was window 19 in irssi at the time. < 1354665366 323951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe 18 < 1354665367 965434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it's 11 < 1354665375 399232 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :26 < 1354665394 913319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :26 is terrible! < 1354665467 128305 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the significance of the number itself and the fact that you remember it?