< 1354406401 315253 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like the LHC gets like 11 petakelvins < 1354406421 146992 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354406421 809109 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm roughly 50.5 attoparsecs tall! seeeee < 1354406429 956734 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5054356894457127152 < 1354406431 939768 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shorty < 1354406436 578944 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the barn-megaparsec is my favourite stupid unit < 1354406450 925408 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's actually a completely reasonable unit < 1354406455 562518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tonne" is confusing with "ton" so I think "tonne" should not be used. < 1354406458 706024 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i think this means you may actually be shorter than me < 1354406460 579719 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a first < 1354406493 466275 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well, the derived Planck units are often quite reasonable. < 1354406495 308454 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, the hubble-barn is also a reasonable unit < 1354406510 337681 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: For instance, 1 Planck impedence is about 30 ohms. < 1354406535 422529 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1354406541 713957 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wait how tall are you < 1354406542 199130 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the planck pressure, though... < 1354406552 874222 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, like 1.7m iirc < 1354406560 468417 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :less, even < 1354406565 433526 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.63309e113 Pa? Jesus. < 1354406566 931881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 1 attoparsec -> m < 1354406571 583518 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am like 5 feet 1 inch or something < 1354406577 806675 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i grew since the last time i figured that out < 1354406583 928226 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I'm 5'1" too < 1354406593 37604 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.030856775813057289536 < 1354406608 920740 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing you can do other than use metres and so on, is if the other units are wrong size, use other base units. So, such things as lightyear and so on, etc. < 1354406616 339412 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :planck momentum is reasonable < 1354406620 872640 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.4 petayottayottayottayottapascal? < 1354406637 200580 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.4 PYYYYPa is awesome. < 1354406638 183375 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an attoparsec is like 3cm < 1354406651 63301 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :attoparsec per microfortnight is the best though :3 < 1354406663 46700 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit over an inch? Huh. < 1354406665 888903 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about a foot per second or something, right? < 1354406715 955203 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dwarf fortress units are quite silly < 1354406726 737963 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're fahrenheit + 9000 or something < 1354406731 356724 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354406746 109025 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a cm/s I think < 1354406761 187200 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc, a lightnanosecond is about a foot < 1354406787 730930 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it would be < 1354406896 923483 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.40.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354407108 306064 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Planck charge is also fairly reasonable. About 12 times larger than the elementary charge. < 1354407154 817531 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354407160 383076 :ifnspifn_!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354407183 875685 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354407190 281968 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, you mean the coulomb? < 1354407198 717582 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the coulomb is not a reasonable unit < 1354407204 205147 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the charge of an electron < 1354407210 333958 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, the elementary charge is the magnitude of the charge of an electron. < 1354407212 685579 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is called the "elementary charge" < 1354407220 106739 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not even close to a reasonable unit! < 1354407230 294788 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's reasonable in many contexts. < 1354407259 70844 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought we meant 'macroscopic' < 1354407274 570556 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, fine. < 1354407308 629847 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still more reasonable than most of the Planck units... I mean, shit, there's an SI prefix for that one. :P < 1354407346 438135 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a mere 1.8 aC. < 1354407417 75261 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :planck impedance: 29.979 ohms? < 1354407446 964069 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1354407451 785715 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a planck momentum too, it's not big < 1354407458 122267 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the planck magnetic field is < 1354407497 303317 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magnetic flux density? < 1354407502 12831 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.15 * 10^53 teslas says a quick google? ohgod < 1354407512 125092 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"215000 yottayottateslas" < 1354407526 637803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTK's timestamps are in units of 0.1 microseconds. I've always presumed it's because it's accurate enough for each sample of 16 kHz audio to have an integer time in those units (unlike microseconds; one sample is 62.5 us), but nanoseconds would've resulted in too large numbers. < 1354407534 417126 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's above the point where maxwell's equations go to hell and the vacuum becomes polarised < 1354407548 377248 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that happens at like, about 10^40 times less? XD < 1354407552 482183 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :polarised, n. really cold (it's cold at the north and south pole) < 1354407560 374276 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"megasecond" is my favorite usual unit, i think < 1354407560 761052 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just make up new prefixes. < 1354407568 488828 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not any more *badum-tsh* < 1354407587 63394 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone once told me, they read they wanted to add another prefix "heva" < 1354407599 93872 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: might also be that they stole their time unit from windows < 1354407601 39510 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there a petition to make "hella" official, or something < 1354407606 900448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats elliott for confusing nouns and adjectives -----### < 1354407621 823014 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked the proposal for zeppo-, harpo- and groucho- < 1354407627 824729 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfffffff < 1354407632 816025 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1354407654 737251 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :n., n. separator between dictionary entries and their definitions < 1354407669 82908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want "zeppo" because it is similar to "zepto" < 1354407670 785393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if we have hella, then clearly the opposite prefix should be heava < 1354407671 460083 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may have been in either the feedback or letters sections of the new scientist < 1354407708 896736 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they wanted "heva" one above "yotta" although I am unsure. < 1354407711 959016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I suppose it's possible, though I don't think it's a very Windows-oriented piece of software. < 1354407726 851578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsymeter. yw. < 1354407734 263366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen at least one "serious-looking" SI extension proposal. < 1354407754 176484 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to add bitsy too < 1354407758 127663 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then you can have an itsybitsymeter < 1354407758 764169 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy-, bitsy-, teeny- and weeny- < 1354407764 477405 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=11984 *grin* < 1354407767 950396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fuck you i'm a disctionary < 1354407769 300857 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an itsybitsy spider would be very small indeed < 1354407770 560912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :polkadotmeter < 1354407779 304043 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354407782 332098 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am OK if you want to add other prefixes, whether it is "groucho" or whatever else < 1354407797 200154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is that like a book using discworld spelling conventions? < 1354407824 451155 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: who publsiehs the definitions around here < 1354407848 897795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also "myria" not used much anymore, although it is a metric prefix for a myriad (ten thousand). < 1354407930 664776 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be handy for CJK folk. < 1354407950 939023 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(CJK all group numbers in myriads.) < 1354408007 86406 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know that too. < 1354408022 764576 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's probably where knuth got the idea, isn't it. < 1354408054 696605 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Client Quit < 1354408056 114385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I think so. < 1354408092 417311 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Angstro" has been suggested for 10^(-10). Perhaps to get rid of ångström as a separate unit. (It even has the "m" there.) < 1354408139 779582 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be OK. < 1354408165 619847 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :angstrometer < 1354408196 748801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Don't know whether the suggestion kept the diacritics. At least å would be free for abbreviations.) < 1354408213 935485 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 åm. < 1354408227 975005 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and then "angstrom" becomes short for "angstrometer". But yes you should use the lowercase a with ring above for this prefix (uppercase A with ring above is angstrom) < 1354408274 460466 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make a list of these things. < 1354408296 242205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you also have 1 åÅ = 10 zm. < 1354408318 393971 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1354408320 594930 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it does allow you to do that although I do not think it would be a good idea. < 1354408343 520685 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One ångströångström does sound a bit silly. < 1354408362 531319 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION approves of the ångströångström < 1354408415 315005 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though maybe that should be "ö¨å" (can't be bothered to find the combining char) < 1354408459 648739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ < 1354408460 740634 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> The excuse for not fixing this does not make sense. < 1354408461 281529 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What doesn't make sense is you. < 1354408461 642058 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1354408461 906437 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:52: parse error (possibly incorrect indentation) < 1354408463 939209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- ulrich drepper < 1354408473 43858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_(m%C3%A5tt) < 1354408474 328416 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean an å with a diaeresis? < 1354408504 849455 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ä you guys are lazy < 1354408509 756030 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Yes. < 1354408511 592152 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, 1 fat is 480 osmunds ... pretty thin fella this Osmund < 1354408524 613685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ŕ < 1354408525 741537 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354408533 247585 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ĥ < 1354408537 449392 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the equation for the Railsback curve? < 1354408556 201549 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Needs both, clearly, as otherwise that'd be a diphthong. < 1354408592 275926 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, since öå doesn't become a diphtong in the first place < 1354408644 460849 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Bah humbug. < 1354408646 293578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: unless you're very drunk < 1354408667 823793 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will diäresisize all vowels that are adjacent! < 1354408701 570037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :föå en öål til föår föan < 1354408785 614892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: or from skåne, probably < 1354408792 276710 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why it's "oërjan" not "Ørjan". >:D < 1354408810 255617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :øærjan < 1354408847 474459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oërhöert < 1354408865 546602 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this: "å̈" look fine to you guys < 1354408876 359836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl__: excellent plain a, there < 1354408878 600677 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it looks like you have some kind of growth on your head there < 1354408891 136544 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's supposed to be... an a with an ö above it, essentially < 1354408906 820393 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a + ° + ¨ < 1354408929 942648 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ǟ < 1354408956 599673 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl__: That composed poorly. < 1354408959 990821 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame my renderer. < 1354409053 989419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.no/search?hl=no&safe=off&tbo=d&site=&source=hp&q=sk%C3%B6%C3%A5ne&oq=sk%C3%B6%C3%A5ne&gs_l=hp.3...122718.172765.0.173062.7.7.0.0.0.0.219.750.3j2j1.6.0...0.0...1c.1.T-0dj36Ttyc gives a bit of hits < 1354409353 48399 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I think he meant rwbarton? < 1354409417 522047 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : Unless someone like ion wants to do it. < 1354409428 420073 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno whom he meant, but i was asking about it in response to that. :-) < 1354409446 648563 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"someone like ion" might refer to you < 1354410133 285391 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354410697 315648 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354411340 966029 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com NICK :TodPunk < 1354412333 375826 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354412408 742622 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you guys sometimes discuss about practical (albeit experimental) programming languages? < 1354412425 893269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Norwegian? < 1354412439 522642 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354412453 876832 :augur!~augur@69.140.133.153 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354412479 559909 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's some Finnish too, but opinions differ as to wether that counts as a language at all < 1354412483 275730 :sebbu!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354412483 347455 :sebbu!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 QUIT :Changing host < 1354412483 347624 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354412499 926162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_programming_, people < 1354412513 98275 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... shachaf started it < 1354412519 437968 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1354412526 34555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if haskell counts, then we do. < 1354412545 200065 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, Haskell; what about new programming languages? < 1354412546 536360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some have had less esoteric projects, i recall Gregor's plof < 1354412549 62081 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Sgeo < 1354412552 157201 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n2liquid: Well, it's not esoteric programming, so *yes*. < 1354412564 270567 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or languages that extrapolate concepts like object orientation < 1354412619 854192 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially not stuff that's too focused on mathematical concepts < 1354412628 813780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote oerjan < 1354412629 155270 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan says: i only do impractical things < 1354412646 946451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :COUNT ME OUT < 1354412679 404917 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, is plof on the esolang wiki? < 1354412696 732956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, because it's not esoteric < 1354412702 383495 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glass is OO < 1354412711 694817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, _maybe_ it's linked from Gregor's user page. < 1354412727 776350 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n2liquid: Plof is more a research language than anything else. < 1354412728 891566 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, practicaal? < 1354412731 296687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :glass is OO, esoteric, and also gregor's :) < 1354412734 837382 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1354412816 378569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://plof.codu.org/wiki/ < 1354412829 243931 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, thanks :D < 1354413097 366216 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354413131 869147 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :We do discuss experiemental programming and stuff too sometimes < 1354413191 195015 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been munching some concepts for a programming language for some time now < 1354413208 156639 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I suppose we also sometimes discuss completely different things too < 1354413208 847425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall edwardk had a language project when he came here, although i think he's gravitated towards "everything fits better into haskell"? also everything edwardk is by definition the opposite of "not stuff that's too focused on mathematical concepts". < 1354413257 681974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the same way, some haskellers seem to go on to agda. < 1354413262 726333 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nothing bat-crazy like what's often explored in academic research projects or esoteric languages < 1354413266 375060 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, agda? < 1354413285 726404 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dependently-typed experimental language < 1354413338 396357 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1354413341 759247 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has there been any work on Plof recently? < 1354413354 749671 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly, I just want to read awesome documentation, even if the language isn't well implemented < 1354413365 340735 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why hallo thar, people talking about me >_> < 1354413377 190818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the fythe VM for it was worked on in february, at least, i see < 1354413393 620493 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fythe was last poked at a few months ago. < 1354413405 670770 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible that I'm currently contractually obligated not to touch it, so I'm not :) < 1354413416 384979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1354413442 100824 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just for two more weeks now *shrugs* < 1354413467 223433 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354413470 998998 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Fythe engine works great, and I have some neato ideas for making it work better, I just haven't bothered to finish porting Plof to it yet. < 1354413493 721055 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What with my being distracted by silly irrelevant stuff like pursuing a PhD and making money and watching ponies. < 1354413494 108760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :any relation to your ioccc entry? :P < 1354413500 401693 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH YOU < 1354413518 900986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, *winning entry < 1354413603 131065 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1354413633 673729 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lest it's not obvious, my IOCCC entry has no practical application whatsoever. Anything to make it not suck would also make it unportable, defeating the whole purpose. < 1354413693 611601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously. < 1354413750 311581 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what entry is this? < 1354413770 351579 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you guys think about LLVM? < 1354413773 114830 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just curious < 1354413798 221001 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.ioccc.org/years.html#2011_richards < 1354413914 1152 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's... impressive < 1354413980 242294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to like LLVM, although I also think some things missing, such as supporting bytes other than 8-bits, and supporting ARM2 < 1354414070 289375 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I wouldn't be into programming language design without LLVM < 1354414074 755465 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a given < 1354414097 654924 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the point of all this preprocessor stuff to make the source resemble dc code < 1354414289 617349 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor: Is there a description of how the JIT is done somewhere? < 1354414444 922791 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: The description was in your heart all along. < 1354414719 915496 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1354414731 700830 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that JIT is really amazing < 1354414748 682909 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it manages to hide the opcodes and stuff too, wow < 1354415133 763896 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear if you listen carefully to the rustling wind on a warm night with a full moon, you can hear the sound of the JIT building ARM functions. < 1354415375 411862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote omg that JIT is really amazing [...] I hear if you listen carefully to the rustling wind on a warm night with a full moon, you can hear the sound of the JIT building ARM functions. < 1354415378 496393 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :859) omg that JIT is really amazing [...] I hear if you listen carefully to the rustling wind on a warm night with a full moon, you can hear the sound of the JIT building ARM functions. < 1354415391 713919 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: TWO SPACES!!!!! < 1354415412 966144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Two spaces are the devil. :-( < 1354415418 566644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i checked with `quote, and the first example that came up had only one < 1354415432 763091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: two spaces between the first two messages, I mean < 1354415440 585714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The GHC inliner is annoying me. :-( < 1354415441 339715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you fix it? < 1354415453 438547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354415455 295054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably read that one paper, _Secrets of the GHC Inliner_. < 1354415456 628535 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :683) Here in Scotland we have a rigorous and well-tested theory of brothels. < 1354415459 689154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354415461 27465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1354415463 399127 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :341) How to make a tasty deep-fried treat: 1) Buy ingredients: Large vat of boiling oil, dry ice and a small Filipino boy. 2) Place Filipino boy in dry ice until frozen solid. 3) Shatter now-frozen Filipino boy into boiling oil. 4) Wait fifteen minutes, drain and enjoy! I have the weirdest boner right now. < 1354415487 276709 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :43) Reality isn't a part of physics < 1354415493 72241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY THEN < 1354415500 568554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 859 < 1354415504 518861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Don't give in! < 1354415505 152501 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* omg that JIT is really amazing [...] I hear if you listen carefully to the rustling wind on a warm night with a full moon, you can hear the sound of the JIT building ARM functions. < 1354415512 359299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote omg that JIT is really amazing [...] I hear if you listen carefully to the rustling wind on a warm night with a full moon, you can hear the sound of the JIT building ARM functions. < 1354415515 899172 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :859) omg that JIT is really amazing [...] I hear if you listen carefully to the rustling wind on a warm night with a full moon, you can hear the sound of the JIT building ARM functions. < 1354415535 369577 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :½ fixed < 1354415536 456405 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, why did you do that < 1354415560 689150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: the rules for [...] are even more complicated. < 1354415570 178709 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should use “ ” and see if anyone notices. < 1354415571 238036 :augur!~augur@69.140.133.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354415613 286825 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1354415644 823191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: elliott is a space nazi < 1354415654 444345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't want to annoy him < 1354415666 47860 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the formatting rules shall not be broken < 1354415667 314756 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like in Iron Sky? < 1354415703 104862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote bike:the formatting rules shall not be broken < 1354415706 330379 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :860) bike:the formatting rules shall not be broken < 1354415709 508550 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just about to do that < 1354415719 932763 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so uncreative. < 1354415725 134167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So am I. :-( < 1354415730 695904 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 860 < 1354415734 161864 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* bike:the formatting rules shall not be broken < 1354415736 169635 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken < 1354415737 96434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is an appropriate THAT'S THE JOKE link? < 1354415749 423041 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the simpson's clip? < 1354415789 477797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that is the top google hit < 1354415796 933829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: inliner? i hardly know her! < 1354415797 388034 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to pretend that apostrophe was supposed to be there. "The Simpson" is a nickname of a bigfoot-like internet legend, known for posting photographs of firearms with jokes engraved on them. < 1354415809 173280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xECUrlnXCqk < 1354415835 192110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good point thx < 1354415854 513927 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ok < 1354415857 288374 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what was that connect command again < 1354415966 592808 :Lumpio_!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi NICK :Lumpio- < 1354416262 772022 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354416315 322048 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1354416438 516808 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1354416440 109360 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go wake fizzie up < 1354416474 414633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: WAKE UP < 1354416543 655379 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's december o.O late happy new month people o/ < 1354416567 156759 :augur!~augur@69.140.133.153 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354416574 713139 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: go to finland < 1354416636 81190 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, is December now, and is Advent tomorrow, I think. < 1354416644 979895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland isn't real, elliott. < 1354416652 571030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you actually know anyone who's ever been there? < 1354416661 338038 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland is drunk Japan. No more, no less. < 1354416676 745054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drunk Japan + lakka? < 1354416685 726139 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, when you're drunk... :P < 1354416688 564443 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? finland < 1354416691 807749 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least nine of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. < 1354416699 43855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added some commands in my Csound plugin, including "meanfilter", "multiguide", "pairecho", etc < 1354416726 662908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would appear the bus has got lost < 1354416751 280688 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "pairecho" command makes two delay lines which are allowed to interfere with each other and the amount of interference and output levels can be adjusted at x-rate. < 1354416759 458781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tried to read pairecho as something latino < 1354416774 971727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? Do you speak Latino? < 1354416785 954236 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ladino's cool. < 1354416797 253822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it looks vaguely spanish. < 1354416811 957965 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, elliott Fiora < 1354416813 813728 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, oerjan only speaks onital. < 1354416814 924696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is meant to be English. < 1354416868 394937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: ¡orter edav < 1354417027 735142 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354417117 225246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1354417219 3116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1354417239 644175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, I got insecure IPv6 working. < 1354417244 210032 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :Guest55032 < 1354417244 496033 :Guest55032!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TODO: Get secure IPv6 working. < 1354417256 727557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Guest55032 < 1354417257 39091 :Guest55032!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. < 1354417264 553059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo Guest55034 > Guest55032 < 1354417279 268312 :Guest55032!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1354417945 138586 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Comment on appelle un mec qui pilote un avion ? < 1354418066 526622 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :68060 > 55032 < 1354418088 540839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> compare 68060 55032 < 1354418090 271208 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : GT < 1354418139 258995 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :λ> compare Guest55034 Guest55032 < 1354418141 698977 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :LT < 1354418143 657210 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡!! < 1354418186 628408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What! < 1354418221 703884 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did that happen? < 1354418228 689746 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let compare = flip compare < 1354418234 122882 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1354418249 81877 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :insidious < 1354418512 555278 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Guest = Guest55034 | Guest55032 deriving (Eq, Ord) < 1354418580 31612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Comparing = Eq | Ord deriving (Eq, Ord) < 1354418625 565336 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self do not ask questions < 1354418679 555379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd be more impressed if he made it work in lambdabot < 1354418882 175267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You should set this channel -n < 1354418889 966061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So elliott can spam it without joining. < 1354418928 836698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already did once < 1354418958 591219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also, you should kick me for spamming. < 1354418959 324634 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is Haskell library for defining moves of chess pieces, what should it be called? < 1354418974 33342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Hlfdmocp < 1354419016 111547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: twice < 1354419030 837550 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the module name, not the package name, though. < 1354419157 459224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Games.Board.Chess.Moves.Class < 1354419168 508675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1354419364 883207 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gosh I got quoted < 1354419381 185451 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've really hit the bigtime now. < 1354419383 81451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@remember Fiora oh gosh I got quoted < 1354419383 309030 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice! < 1354419396 855261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, lambdabot is for high-quality quotes. < 1354419398 60592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@forget Fiora oh gosh I got quoted < 1354419398 295229 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1354419411 682620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote fuck < 1354419411 838404 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorear says: [emacs haskell mode] not fucked up, just well documented < 1354419430 214057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote duh < 1354419430 393041 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin says: a monad is just a lax functor from a terminal bicategory, duh. fuck that monoid in category of endofunctors shit < 1354419438 869581 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Fiora has gone through two phases of initiation < 1354419450 992303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :excessive welcoming and being quoted < 1354419454 849331 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is she going to have to write an eodermdrome interpreter too < 1354419458 532500 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :next up is the goat sacrifice < 1354419469 839631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no, no one actually managed that yet < 1354419471 13003 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes but that usually comes later < 1354419471 566775 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i'm so up for that < 1354419481 574079 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how has yours been < 1354419484 150407 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: isn't that the joke < 1354419492 169826 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oklofok did < 1354419504 651630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :she has to spend a few weeks agonizing over how to do it before she fails, though < 1354419508 715127 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean no *person* < 1354419516 988687 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got bored/frustrated, turns out np-complete problems are annoying, especially when you look at graph rewriting and then look at thue and think "why" < 1354419531 985714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he just chose a different failure mode, known as "losing the source" < 1354419546 180412 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an eodermdrome interpreter @_@ < 1354419563 44073 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Eodermdrome it's an esoteric language, or "esolang" for short < 1354419577 21538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone whose eyes look like @ isn't sane enough to be told! < 1354419668 534009 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I know what an eslolang is < 1354419680 295824 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no. it's /that/ one < 1354419681 408758 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the graph < 1354419687 257094 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i was failing at, yes < 1354419702 902602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: "what is an eslolang" < 1354419704 525926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1354419713 998228 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did write a mascarphone interpreter when arc_koen was talking about it the other day, though. completely untested, as the gods demanded < 1354419736 841840 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry I'm like randomly being pulled away and things because I'm at my parents' house this weekend < 1354419747 880034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mascarphone interpreter have good call rates? < 1354419758 507802 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1354419778 266118 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1354419793 172002 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean? if it's some subquestion of "is it efficient" the answer is still no < 1354419817 615125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes strong winds above Bike's head < 1354419846 985067 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have congenital joke-blindness, you bigot! < 1354419889 778153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. i'm afraid you'll probably not survive in this channel, then. < 1354419896 64681 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. subgraph isomorphism is the hard one < 1354419899 158846 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1354419901 513016 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and graph isomorphism is the almost-hard one < 1354419918 240029 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually got the subgraph isomorphism bit, but the replacement semantics are not what i assumed < 1354420020 943504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the "some vertices need to have no extra edges" bit < 1354420067 27679 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, basically i didn't pay enough attention to the description and wrote it wrong, so, frustration when i found out < 1354421046 519933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: So do you do the thing where you capitalize your sentences, but not the word "I"? < 1354421058 820915 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1354421079 892977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1354421091 173704 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a sentence starts with I, do you capitalize the following word instead? < 1354421098 374381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering whether you do that on purpose or what it is that you do. < 1354421114 958080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I meant treating "I" as any other word, and capitalizing it like any other word. < 1354421119 906686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than giving it special treatment. < 1354421131 612412 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’d like to learn the reasoning for the special treatment of “I”. You don’t capitalize “You”. < 1354421152 96840 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably something to do with the venerable medieval lack of punctuation or spaces < 1354421152 722997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :U don't? < 1354421155 682504 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or “a” < 1354421173 620335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: So it is a thing you do on purpose? < 1354421192 867888 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes I am guessing something like that < 1354421237 646863 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354421262 152634 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, i capitalize “I” in anything more formal, but i find the exception strange. < 1354421283 225520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i AGREE < 1354421290 335062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ONCE CONSIDERED DOING IT THAT WAY < 1354421302 726763 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree, but I just got over it < 1354421327 187301 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are enough oddities in my own language to be questioning english < 1354421333 85419 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write All Sentences in Some Kind of Title Case < 1354421344 457713 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kanaya? < 1354421348 24796 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read an article that suggested that the only reason “I” is capitalized is because printers thought “i” looked ugly. < 1354421358 162348 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, we should just capitalize all Nouns, as is the historical Practice. < 1354421364 367407 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys < 1354421364 528366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowadays printers have no free will. < 1354421372 758725 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a 1-2 ms ping to the london freenode server from my server < 1354421374 273441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how wild is that < 1354421384 297238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's what they _want_ you to think < 1354421385 414182 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Not particularly wild? < 1354421391 592490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the wildest < 1354421392 506787 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: fuck you < 1354421393 298867 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same guys who thought you should move a subset of punctuation following a right quotation mark inside the quotation? Screw those guys. < 1354421401 255365 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free Will is for Plebians, Peasants, and Fools. We educated Souls know that there is no such Thing as free Will. < 1354421403 170891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in San Francisco! < 1354421405 31918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How wild is that? < 1354421410 812389 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is only the Dictates of Physics. < 1354421417 517096 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I am too. < 1354421421 702090 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at this shit < 1354421422 575394 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 bytes from sturgeon.freenode.net (83.170.94.214): icmp_req=1 ttl=56 time=1.06 ms < 1354421426 23102 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 bytes from sturgeon.freenode.net (83.170.94.214): icmp_req=3 ttl=56 time=1.16 ms < 1354421429 40682 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 bytes from sturgeon.freenode.net (83.170.94.214): icmp_req=4 ttl=56 time=1.15 ms < 1354421431 449448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I looked for a taquería and didn't find one. < 1354421432 20739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 bytes from sturgeon.freenode.net (83.170.94.214): icmp_req=5 ttl=56 time=1.15 ms < 1354421434 946952 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 bytes from sturgeon.freenode.net (83.170.94.214): icmp_req=6 ttl=56 time=1.13 ms < 1354421438 51921 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't tell me that's not wild < 1354421447 968211 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Where the heck are you in SFO that you can't find a taqueria??? < 1354421449 592849 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You seem to have some packet loss. < 1354421450 567954 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're EVERYWHERE. < 1354421450 900748 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ... How many lightmilliseconds are you from London? < 1354421459 977433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I didn't look very far, admittedly. < 1354421462 641623 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: me, a while < 1354421464 32148 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my server, 0 < 1354421466 434887 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it is in london < 1354421471 112790 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Okay. < 1354421479 780725 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: you're a packet loss < 1354421490 583266 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though "a while" is not a quantity of lightmilliseconds, vague or otherwise. ;) < 1354421501 814923 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a while < 1354421513 898888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 1 while -> lightmillisecond < 1354421514 991022 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354421521 106437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you in san francisco san francisco or are you in epa < 1354421524 803759 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Syntax error: , line 1, near column 2 \ 1 while -> lightmillisecond \ ^ \ 1 error(s) occurred during parsing. < 1354421529 85545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :epa gangnam style < 1354421537 485264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: At the moment San Francisco San Francisco. < 1354421538 501201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: shocking < 1354421559 36775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1354421561 161248 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: San Francisco is the best San Francisco, don't you think? < 1354421561 579285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where abouts < 1354421579 383993 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: anyway you should help me get ipv6 working < 1354421580 662889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_(disambiguation) < 1354421583 926346 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can connect to freenode via ipv6 < 1354421584 692481 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can connect to freenode via ssl < 1354421586 977572 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not both at the same time < 1354421627 876410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DUN DUN DUN < 1354421661 325588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Are you doing a PhD thing in San Francisco? < 1354421679 958801 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm doing an internship thing in San Francisco. < 1354421699 969620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1354421703 120284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where? < 1354421708 158169 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oracle < 1354421730 475120 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it true that a soulectomy is a job requirement? < 1354421743 589704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1354421748 373977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of my coworkers used to work at oracle :( < 1354421754 800790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they must be zombies now < 1354421768 219568 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1354421782 279701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Are they using Python? < 1354421786 35507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a sure sign of being a zombie. < 1354421791 193547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand < 1354421792 11420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, yes < 1354421806 287116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have lots of coworkers now? < 1354421811 511408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only six < 1354421821 544603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Six up from four? < 1354421831 305342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of whom five used to work at oracle < 1354421838 191659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i suppose < 1354421841 308090 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :six down from however many it was before the zombies started munching brains < 1354421853 323033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are four founders; i am employee #1 and employee #2 started two days after me < 1354421893 543503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Public Employee #1 < 1354421908 728919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right < 1354422085 507669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: My sister wants to move to Cambridge. < 1354422090 825176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately it's the wrong one. < 1354422119 30883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I persuade her that Mid-Cambridge, MA is the best city? < 1354422337 361906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1354422339 294556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1354422341 710325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the best city < 1354422344 46081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but pretty good < 1354422367 126087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is your sister moving to the other cambridge? < 1354422381 89844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think she wants to go to university there. < 1354422391 870970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1354422712 442870 :n2liquid_!~n2liquid@177.18.75.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354422712 516248 :n2liquid!~n2liquid@177.18.110.104 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354423174 852254 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354423327 866914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Gnith < 1354424418 886639 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once I read something by someone who capitalized every word < 1354424452 564013 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the !!!batch specification? I guess that's not every word < 1354424454 441863 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a book title? < 1354424472 157640 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean many sentences. < 1354424478 142533 :n2liquid_!~n2liquid@177.18.75.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PROBABLY MY BLOG < 1354424495 614875 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not only that but the lines were also numbered even though the line numbers are not related to text items. < 1354424694 29908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: have you learned lenses yet < 1354424700 589660 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1354424702 309160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: there's a new thing on the block to learn < 1354424706 286828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: co-lenses < 1354424712 275264 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-lenses < 1354424716 421093 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do co-lenses do? < 1354424726 14430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The dual of what lenses do. < 1354424838 445825 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still doesn't help. Can you be more specific what its type and so on is? Does it make a category like lenses do? < 1354424938 126273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lenses aren't really a category, are they? < 1354424951 675320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lens s t a b = (s -> a, (s,b) -> t) < 1354424979 357756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colens s t a b = (b -> t, s -> Either t a) < 1354424996 132585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, OK, a category. < 1354425001 254037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not a Category. :-( < 1354425013 737844 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ( < 1354425107 875449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you need a nose < 1354425109 474783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :here: < 1354425109 548313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have the one with only two parameters instead of four, then there is the lens category (including the Category instance). < 1354425114 340310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⿐ < 1354425121 459755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes. < 1354425145 484506 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: where is colens < 1354425156 142379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1354425163 715984 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's projection < 1354425165 229674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called Projection in lens. < 1354425169 278596 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :⿐) < 1354425178 667002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: much better < 1354425191 444305 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1354425202 463055 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :目鼻口 < 1354425209 532662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::⿐) < 1354425216 426692 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wins < 1354425288 628962 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1354425296 430006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott You know what you should do? < 1354425296 663512 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1354425342 676980 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :へのへのもへじ? < 1354425599 395659 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1354425619 823221 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I have SSL + IPv6 working. < 1354425620 223670 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1354425632 372332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's broken SSL certificate verification. :( < 1354425653 871483 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be a result of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/irssi/+bug/573256 < 1354425665 717584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If you wrote a lazy syntax highlighter for Haskell. < 1354425672 976844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I could work around it just by adding all the freenode servers I want to connect to to the irssi network rather than the round-robin? < 1354425684 362598 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what should I do < 1354425704 511516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ? < 1354425711 408213 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you sent me a lambdabot message < 1354425716 965929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:21 elliott: If you wrote a lazy syntax highlighter for Haskell. < 1354425729 401505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I might've changed my tense-thing in the middle there. < 1354425746 985263 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to do that < 1354425768 191749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/144biy/pretty_output_in_ghci_howto_in_comments/ :'( < 1354425838 677452 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edit 2: You will need to either :seti -XNoMonomorphismRestriction or give myPrint an explicit type annotation. I happened to have the former already. < 1354425857 796653 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't rewriting myPrint to not be pointfree work? < 1354425861 246015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't care about that. < 1354425867 828154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Someone bountied my stackoverflow answer! < 1354425872 283189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I get my points? < 1354425892 557550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, or maybe they bountied one of the other answers. < 1354425926 456968 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or actually, nothing's wrong with a type annotation, right? < 1354425929 935038 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the points come automatically < 1354425950 879917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the asker person didn't pick best answer! < 1354425953 681164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is complicated. < 1354425965 376789 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's assigned automatically < 1354425982 711026 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you should upvote http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9050725/call-cc-implementation/9050907#9050907 so my top-voted answer isn't to the question "How do you identify monadic design patterns?" < 1354426014 638439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, you could get people to downvote that one instead. < 1354426017 924496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm i don't even like how the latter answer words it at the start < 1354426019 988745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That answer is long. < 1354426022 1894 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah but then i would lose internet points < 1354426054 776317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but how did you get a billion internet points without every getting more than 50 votes on an answer < 1354426065 178002 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by writing 343 answers < 1354426085 87016 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1354426103 905160 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing one great answer that immediately gets a huge number of votes doesn't even help that much anyway due to the 200 rep cap < 1354426112 731888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(per day) < 1354426144 284021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is there a cap? < 1354426145 680727 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are you there i need help with this certificate thing!! < 1354426150 615841 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: long story < 1354426173 172820 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to peruse the long and tedious history of posts at http://meta.stackoverflow.com/ if you want an answer < 1354426197 20343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothx < 1354426816 279434 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: are you the ion in http://bash.org/?152037 by the way < 1354426820 802515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :important questions < 1354426840 580551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nope. < 1354426843 345811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've asked before. < 1354426857 662533 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nicknames should be unique! < 1354427189 13203 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should go read the Facebook TOS < 1354427335 849298 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook (IP License). " < 1354427345 947901 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do they need a transferable and sub-licensable license? < 1354427409 254809 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that they can grant reproduction rights to advertisers and other licensees and stuff < 1354427469 736863 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honestly, I understand the rest of it, from a technical perspective < 1354427486 123947 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just in terms of showing photos to peoples friends when their privacy settings are set such, for example < 1354427517 40864 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You will not post unauthorized commercial communications (such as spam) on Facebook." < 1354427528 799169 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main thing to get about facebook is you're the product, not the customer. the customers are ad companies and zynga and companies like that. the TOS is oriented to help the cusotmers. < 1354427556 530376 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does one get authorization? Many companies have Facebook pages, which I can only assume are used for commercial communications < 1354427608 800712 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You will not use Facebook to do anything unlawful, misleading, malicious, or discriminatory. < 1354427608 911616 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1354427616 191701 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. I'm not allowed to lie on Facebook? < 1354427655 116161 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOSs aren't exactly meant to be followed to the letter, it's just for legal cases and shit < 1354427673 283238 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yup. So, if you're gay you better be out. < 1354427726 883536 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if "don't mislead" would cover being gay and not telling anyone. Since you're only "misleading" them in that they assume you're straight because that's the cultural norm. < 1354427749 889885 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curses be unto heteronormativity. < 1354427773 721698 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION makes traditional hand gesture of agreement < 1354427825 627950 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about April Fools jokes? < 1354427833 720720 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as "just got arrested for drunk driving" < 1354427834 339753 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not actually misleading. < 1354427880 414351 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had an April Fools Day where I was just posting statuses saying how I was going to a party, got drunk, had unprotected sex with some girl, and got arrested for drunk driving. < 1354427884 782282 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anyone believed it < 1354427897 441594 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1354427960 828507 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You will not transfer your account (including any Page or application you administer) to anyone without first getting our written permission. < 1354427960 901363 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1354427980 386568 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That... seems annoying for companies. Unless the company is considered the administer the page, and not individual employees? < 1354428061 830314 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You will not tag users or send email invitations to non-users without their consent. Facebook offers social reporting tools to enable users to provide feedback about tagging. < 1354428062 12772 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1354428118 146080 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...how does that even work? The tagging mechanisms don't require consent, do they? And sending email invitations to non-users... um, it's an invitation, how do you get consent to send an invitation? < 1354428126 894233 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I think that that section is geared more towards developers < 1354428209 883577 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a section for developers: "You will not directly or indirectly transfer any data you receive from us to (or use such data in connection with) any ad network, ad exchange, data broker, or other advertising related toolset, even if a user consents to that transfer or use." < 1354428230 974466 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty blatant in terms of what Bike was saying before < 1354428234 302767 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1354428250 611264 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi!! < 1354428265 310457 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott. helliott. < 1354428730 939217 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CALIFORNIA CIVIL CODE 1542 is useless, isn't it? < 1354428818 891847 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1354428834 678683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear monqy knows about california < 1354428838 174540 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1354428839 632961 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont < 1354428873 341303 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what the Facebook TOS quoted, it's a thing about releases (of liability I guess) not applying in all circumstances. So, all an organization needs to do to get a fully general release is say that the other party waives it < 1354428896 303432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you still talking about facebook's terms of service jesus < 1354428943 43923 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stopped. And didn't say everything I wanted to say, after you joined, because I figured that that's why you left < 1354428951 449573 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't let me stop you < 1354428962 122553 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if #esoteric said only things i wanted it would be a very different place < 1354429381 897286 :n2liquid_!~n2liquid@177.18.75.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I see this channel is full of respectful people, eh < 1354429388 858422 :n2liquid_!~n2liquid@177.18.75.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's rare, really < 1354429581 148036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I missed the train south and now the next one won't be for another ~1.5 hours. < 1354429685 450047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :n2liquid_: we must be in different #esoterics < 1354429703 426965 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my esoteric is better than your esoteric. < 1354429724 31682 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354429786 328722 :n2liquid_!~n2liquid@177.18.75.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've only been here for this night, but it does seem peaceful < 1354430160 311888 :sebbu3!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354430177 212585 :sebbu3!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 QUIT :Changing host < 1354430177 285468 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354430208 301375 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354430229 462310 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1354430883 279181 :sebbu2!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354430883 392137 :sebbu2!~sebbu@83.194.57.239 QUIT :Changing host < 1354430883 392285 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354430908 73382 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie does the client certificate thing work as good as sasl now that you're using it? with the cloak-guaranteed-to-take-effect-before-joining-channels stuff < 1354430908 244076 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1354431058 347669 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354431105 418600 :Gregor!codu@codu.org NICK :BabsSeed < 1354431140 236238 :BabsSeed!codu@codu.org NICK :Gregor < 1354431679 360780 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354431733 123059 :Gregor!codu@codu.org NICK :TheSmooze < 1354435071 334853 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1354435916 105746 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354436167 465142 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1354436411 756681 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354436430 28381 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1354436632 335415 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@67.169.45.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354437922 316753 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354438251 907000 :n2liquid_!~n2liquid@177.18.75.243 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354438343 403643 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@67.169.45.161 QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354439339 224182 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354439705 719096 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354439761 903650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354440153 280307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott I haven't actually tried reconnecting after setting it up. It worked for the first time, I think, but then again I still had the server pass thing set up, and that works too most of the time. < 1354440153 633541 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1354441025 392380 :punisher00!~oumarnian@41.188.101.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354441286 289812 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354443107 539353 :ifnspifn_!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Quit: ifnspifn_ < 1354443191 739230 :punisher00!~oumarnian@41.188.101.153 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354443239 695564 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354443339 234739 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Client Quit < 1354443707 785050 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354443714 922709 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Client Quit < 1354445624 113728 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354445672 389057 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354447710 731149 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1354449384 395998 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354450273 196909 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1354451096 520812 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In fact, the odds of dying from a scorpion sting are one in 300 million. To put this in perspective: Your odds of dying by simply falling over in the shower are one in 65,000. In other words, if you find a scorpion in your shower tomorrow morning, the shower stall itself may still be the greater danger. < 1354451096 631765 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_19171_5-things-that-arent-nearly-as-dangerous-as-hollywood-thinks.html#ixzz2Dtf6HJYx" < 1354451105 492322 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...screw you thingy < 1354451123 181786 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I allowed to facepalm at the misunderstanding of probability, or should I just accept it as a joke < 1354451137 554181 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1354451160 93345 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that 1 in 300 million the population-wide probability of dying from a scorpion sting < 1354451169 453249 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case: :facepalm: < 1354451184 733291 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It links to http://www.bookofodds.com/Accidents-Death/Death-Rates/Odds/The-odds-a-person-will-die-from-being-stung-by-a-scorpion-in-a-year-are-1-in-299-400-000-US-2006 < 1354451256 954911 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::facepalm: < 1354451301 683658 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could still be true, I guess, but there's not enough information. < 1354458115 983548 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: The reason why the odds of dying from a scorpion sting are so low is that scorpions don't live in most places that people do < 1354458134 843374 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is actually a scorpion there, your odds definitely go up < 1354458514 990187 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes well done FreeFull < 1354458572 763761 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your ability to state what everyone else had already implicitly figured out is truly a boon to the channel < 1354458693 729818 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I am Captain Obvious, if that's not obvious < 1354458823 558451 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :please stop being captain obvious then < 1354459285 158117 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354459882 38234 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354460074 657736 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354461358 477146 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1354461653 733728 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354461688 66258 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1354465288 24373 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354465373 658882 :yours_truly!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354466011 263461 :yours_truly!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354466523 861178 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : please stop being captain obvious then <-- who should be captain obvious then? < 1354466543 336087 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't a boat! < 1354466548 518671 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't need any captains < 1354466565 970227 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then the discussion can go astray. < 1354466566 126676 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1354466582 812925 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I always thought of Captain Obvious like a superhero, like Captain America or whatever < 1354466593 737462 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm curious as to what was originally intended in that phrase < 1354466607 81393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mutiny < 1354466608 6110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Captain Planet. < 1354466614 353150 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah like that < 1354466627 572218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lt. Cmdr. Obvious < 1354466645 345947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By your inanities combined, I am Captain Obvious!" < 1354466669 853088 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a boat? I though I was aboard to cookieland < 1354466677 908754 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1354466693 680516 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a spaceship to the planet of anticookies < 1354466707 121921 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :8O < 1354466712 461645 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we obviously need a Captain Obvious < 1354466721 12152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck captain planet < 1354466734 692446 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: imo you should do some testing & also help me out w/ my new ssl problem < 1354466734 848973 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1354466738 398536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i solved ssl+ipv6) < 1354466739 687783 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1354466739 834353 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 7h 23m 7s ago: I haven't actually tried reconnecting after setting it up. It worked for the first time, I think, but then again I still had the server pass thing set up, and that works < 1354466739 912187 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too most of the time. < 1354466754 473266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :his agenda of taking pollution "down to zero" puts one in mind of the fanatical de-industrialization agenda of the khmer rouge < 1354466799 12290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric, number one channel for sociopolitical analysis of captain planet < 1354466816 410334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you make it to a train < 1354466818 878454 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :captain planet throws gi in a labour camp because she looks too intellectual < 1354466826 675309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did you just have to run along the tracks at high speed yelling "CHOO CHOO MOTHERFUCKER" < 1354466844 434666 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thank you wikipedia for that one) < 1354466882 999647 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, heh what? < 1354466917 54817 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also who is gi? < 1354466924 225974 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have never seen captain planet or indeed heard of it beyond 80s pop culture references < 1354466931 167157 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :same here < 1354466955 433869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have watched it, it was broadcast in Finland. < 1354466966 262459 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes fizzie but you are old! < 1354466968 79196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in college we had a house office named "captain planet" < 1354466979 568559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were charged with taking care of all the living things in the house < 1354466981 895485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :primarily the hot tub < 1354467003 354751 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that living < 1354467007 162828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It was also made in 1990-1996, so it's curious it appears in 80s pop culture. < 1354467028 377272 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything before ~1998 is '80s' to me < 1354467028 876200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a complex ecosystem < 1354467040 972038 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, is it like the it crowd rainforest < 1354467046 514442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't seen < 1354467099 447042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helsinki University has a greenhouse warmed by computer exhaust heat on top of the Exactum building. < 1354467111 906690 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct1-zq8gf_0 < 1354467119 312676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nice < 1354467122 618135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmmfmYID1Yw -- you can see it there. < 1354467146 481000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you can see the rack, but the vaguely transparent plastic thing behind it is a greenhouse. < 1354467200 729259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I saw the link somewhere a while ago.) < 1354467244 930191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh he has a shirt with the pac man kill screen < 1354467307 194930 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the it crowd is good with having actual nerdy references in the background < 1354467385 699614 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some eff posters around the place too, and a picture of bob dobbs < 1354467432 46502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1354467442 761141 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'This show's like "The Big Bang Theory" except it doesn't suck a Big Franch Dick.' < 1354467447 609036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well put, random youtube idiot < 1354467486 865033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(franch, as everyone knows, is a condiment composed of a mixture of french and ranch dressing) < 1354467497 705155 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even assuming that's a baffling typo for french, since when were french dicks known for their size? < 1354467531 579998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if they were, the adjective wouldn't be necessary < 1354467544 979664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :insert coq joke here < 1354467591 738980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Twenty years ago, I wrote a comedy in which a scientist accidentally kills God and feels really terrible about it. Meanwhile, his former lab assistant goes on to fame and fortune by inventing something called "Franch" -- a salad dressing that's half-French, half-ranch.' < 1354467614 133665 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmmfmYID1Yw -- you can see it there. <--- lol what? < 1354467618 898424 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :servers out in the open? < 1354467621 438298 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaaaat < 1354467626 283745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's not out in the open. < 1354467631 28549 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like it? < 1354467632 420406 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they do have that cubicle thing < 1354467635 904849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There's a transparent plastic in front of the rack. < 1354467659 73585 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: But yes, it's a "Experimental Free Air Cooling setup". < 1354467692 937790 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, looks like he is removing snow directly from the servers but oh well < 1354467734 591881 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what are they talking about btw? < 1354467751 386244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a translation in the comments, though it's a bit off. < 1354467755 577567 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Person 1: this is a really stupid idea" "Person 2: No no, it will just work" < 1354467764 895636 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Person 1: you idiot" < 1354467783 695269 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354467799 109139 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's something like "Here is Mikko doing server administration." "Works well!" "And that's how we do a little clean" < 1354467819 575656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of http://www.afrotechmods.com/ < 1354467857 37890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular http://www.afrotechmods.com/papercooling.htm < 1354467875 15873 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6F8oAMFyZtk/T2iGlBvcFaI/AAAAAAAACVs/GJwiMc8Oo94/s1152/IMG_20120320_145825.jpg shows the other side of the rack. < 1354467895 932337 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it might become too cold for the servers as well hm < 1354467921 90347 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The blog mentions they haven't had any problems at -30 degrees Celsius or so. < 1354467923 15440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1354467926 379636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this page is as old as kmc < 1354467928 527693 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1354467944 620658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1354467985 982022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Most of their computer centers are more traditional, I think this is more of a hobby experiment. < 1354467999 308355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://afrotechmods.com/stupid/memory/memory.htm < 1354468093 33262 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://totl.net/Eunuch/ < 1354468128 508879 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i forget, is that one of the things everyone's seen but some twat always posts it) < 1354468169 770315 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't the heat of the servers melt the snow and create horrible water problems? < 1354468236 232672 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: That's exactly what one of the comments asked, I think. < 1354468249 778694 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have any sort of answer. < 1354468270 58126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that water flows down, I suppose you can sort of guide it elsewhere. < 1354468291 761978 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it could be cold enough that nothing in the server is above freezing < 1354468296 261206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The linked blog has a lot of content about the design of the box around it. < 1354468339 802748 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The snow is going to melt before summer, anyway, so I'm sure they've considered water. < 1354468350 251047 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it sometimes rains. < 1354468762 504326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if a moose tries to eat the servers < 1354468807 305461 :arcatan!arcatan@hilla.kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the servers are on the roof of the university building, so no mooses there (hopefully) < 1354468859 250588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1354469210 337305 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1354469260 204061 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1354469461 500121 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354470523 379927 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354471386 519807 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354471405 999840 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1354471969 743056 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354472270 870344 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-30.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354472345 404533 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-30.elisa.ee PART :#esoteric < 1354473774 53469 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354473774 163491 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354473774 163633 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354473983 289815 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354474072 615043 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354474226 442032 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354474308 899415 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1354474364 211452 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1354475006 292704 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi elliott < 1354475031 127009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you by any chance done that thing you've claimed you'll do for like a week < 1354475197 101575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tonight < 1354475197 850645 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :promise < 1354475199 592619 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bug me < 1354475226 370610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's already tonight! < 1354475313 839435 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's evening! < 1354475328 344132 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm you may have a point there < 1354475339 996809 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354475687 803360 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I’m not. < 1354475702 132924 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It’s a fake ion. < 1354475851 861309 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 QUIT :Quit: ifnspifn < 1354475865 130158 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: did you see that fancy new edwardk exported unsafeCoerce < 1354475930 687104 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw the paste, didn’t look at “vacuous” yet. < 1354475945 397031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: the implementation is vacuous = unsafeCoerce < 1354475949 948238 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1354475956 646399 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you have a legit functor f, you can implement f Void -> f a that way < 1354475970 503551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, people can lie! < 1354475975 232749 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1354475981 297091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so (Functor f) => f Void -> f a actually means forall f. f Void -> f a < 1354475988 251491 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means Iso Void Void -> Iso Void a < 1354475995 425577 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means (a -> Void, Void -> a) < 1354476004 915218 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, with a forall on each, of course < 1354476007 35983 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means compose them and you get a -> b < 1354476009 98771 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1354476836 360441 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1354476976 929187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could write it with empty case blocks if it were allowed, such as (fmap $ \x -> case x of {}) < 1354477023 349194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you could use undefined instead. < 1354477139 955998 :ifnspifn!~ifnspifn@184.90.25.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354477344 55082 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-30.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354477483 337652 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354477947 964893 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354478459 935911 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting into new kernel < 1354478982 447034 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354479044 54978 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354479045 580696 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1354479046 310157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354479130 258944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1354479183 590981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1354479184 373567 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1354479193 602663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I found an exported unsafeCoerce bug in an edwardk package! < 1354479217 589375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help im trapped in a #esoteric factory < 1354479218 135360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GASP* < 1354479218 440246 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Sorry, I have no help for im_trapped_in_a__esoteric_factory! < 1354479222 130015 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354479223 620759 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You know the void package? < 1354479234 967866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not really < 1354479235 363116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And its unsafeCoerce trick for implementing vacuous :: (Functor f) => f Void -> f a? < 1354479244 554343 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that works for all functors. < 1354479247 121634 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL, http://hpaste.org/78675 < 1354479250 612690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: pfft found that bug like a year ago < 1354479256 768586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :srsly though good work < 1354479263 541151 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: haha did you really < 1354479270 126796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge ('&%:9]!~}|z2Vxwv-,POqponl$Hjig%eB@@>}= < 1354479272 228488 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World! < 1354479277 561310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. < 1354479283 64667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is funny because this is the second time one of edwardk's "safe" unsafeCoerces has turned out to result in an external unsafeCoerce < 1354479286 118242 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a week < 1354479300 136065 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly the first one was only in the git version of lens and never released < 1354479301 155784 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354479307 698610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hpaste.org/52660 < 1354479327 728511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :different bug i guess < 1354479338 223332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is testing the Malbolge hello world to see what it actually prints, because of a strange edit war on wikipedia. < 1354479391 548715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But wouldn't that be ORIGINAL RESEARCH? < 1354479395 641114 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you tell edwardk :P < 1354479463 379603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: OH WHOOPS < 1354479510 391238 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge a < 1354479511 66771 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid character in source file < 1354479514 137294 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge ( < 1354479514 997244 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1354479518 691185 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge ()()((() < 1354479519 445191 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid character in source file < 1354479529 104061 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge (|||(|(|(|(((|((|(| < 1354479529 852800 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid character in source file < 1354479530 858602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: YOur bug is the same one, I think, or pretty close. < 1354479532 323406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You must write a published book about Malbolge Hello Worlds, and then wait until someone else writes a book that refers to your book, and then you can rely on that. < 1354479540 878330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i did < 1354479568 677355 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he not fix it < 1354479571 122059 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1354479571 693002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok so it's an unsafeCoerce that is only safe if the Functor instance actually satisfies the laws, presumably? < 1354479573 144772 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said he'd fix it when i showed him this one! < 1354479575 361605 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait wait wait < 1354479578 443663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right < 1354479580 945786 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does EgoBot do assembly < 1354479587 433647 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: any data type that is an actual functor will admit that unsafeCoerce implementation, I think < 1354479588 918191 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is asm some other esoteric language < 1354479595 661914 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, I can't think of a counterexample < 1354479600 223560 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!asm mov eax, 1 < 1354479600 612783 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there is one with fancy GADT type family stuff < 1354479601 863645 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1354479616 111081 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: There's "asm" in both the esoteric and other lists. < 1354479658 825007 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int main() { printf("%d\n", 1); return 0;} < 1354479661 386701 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason I thought of this unsafeCoerce bug while trying to get to sleep < 1354479662 878374 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1354479668 51753 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :after not having looked at or used the void package in ages < 1354479674 628797 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder < 1354479706 5969 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int main() { int arr[1]; int i; for(i=0;;i++) { arr[i] = i; } return 0; } < 1354479708 773578 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 52: 17341 Segmentation fault /tmp/compiled.$$ < 1354479721 513963 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: The !asm runs /interps/gcccomp/gcccomp assembler which will try to gcc yourcode.s. < 1354479735 669702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: So you need to write it in x86-64 AT&T assenbler. < 1354479736 583763 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, AT&T syntax < 1354479737 556985 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evil < 1354479749 667405 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!asm mov 1, @eax < 1354479751 229380 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1354479755 736684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not what it looks like. < 1354479760 479516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!asm mov $1, %eax < 1354479761 858984 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!asm mov 1, %eax < 1354479762 664186 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1354479763 892700 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 52: 17509 Segmentation fault /tmp/compiled.$$ < 1354479768 36144 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!asm mov $1, %eax < 1354479769 943569 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1354479777 808680 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov 1, %eax would be intel mov eax, [1]. < 1354479784 161619 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, without $ it's a memory address < 1354479792 621916 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also .globl main; main: pushq %rbp; movq %rsp, %rbp; prependend automatically, and movl $0, %eax; leave; ret; suffixed. < 1354479849 865334 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can !asm do anything reasonably nifty < 1354479858 827657 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wanna hear a joke? < 1354479860 631530 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: AT&T syntax < 1354479877 359295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!asm .extern puts; .data; hello: .asciz "hello there"; .text; mov $hello, %rdi; call puts < 1354479879 369061 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello there < 1354479882 464422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nifty, eh? < 1354480022 73470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: btw the error you got on the Malbolge is because every position in the program allows a varying set of 8 bytes, namely the ones which decrypt to actual commands at that spot. < 1354480038 380253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no other byte is allowed at that spot < 1354480041 124595 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know < 1354480085 643411 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-30.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1354480205 605097 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-30.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1354480288 59721 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-30.elisa.ee PART :#esoteric < 1354480529 925075 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354480555 536033 :ashet4!~root@adsl-ull-114-195.50-151.net24.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1354480707 149642 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait when did that become the topic < 1354480760 696395 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only just noticed? < 1354480767 794543 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? < 1354480781 32650 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would i look at the topic, it's not like it ever contains any useful information < 1354480845 464052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : your ability to state what everyone else had already implicitly figured out is truly a boon to the channel <-- hey don't be too hard on him, i was tempted myself. even while logreading. < 1354480886 669207 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't make a habit of it < 1354480897 569394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Babies are usually not eaten owing to their repugnant looks, as well as their viscosity and unpleasant habits. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1354480904 412696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :improvement, yes? < 1354480914 396737 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1354480922 737127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats elliott -----### < 1354480934 250032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloody minimalists < 1354480944 413479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric : < 1354480962 163017 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 TOPIC #esoteric :^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H < 1354480980 598948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if that actually breaks any clients < 1354480986 324537 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course not < 1354481004 496960 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My client doesn't support topics shorter than 28 characters < 1354481015 86516 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no because i just typed in a caret followed by an h < 1354481024 280131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that might explain it. < 1354481034 747399 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :caret h < 1354481039 596360 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 TOPIC #esoteric : < 1354481040 67220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric : < 1354481050 171490 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net TOPIC #esoteric :carrot ache < 1354481053 187122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANYONE BROKEN YET? < 1354481057 528192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how do you insert the actual Ctrl+H with irssi < 1354481063 946746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ^V^H < 1354481075 846294 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: doesn't work for me :( < 1354481077 982510 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 TOPIC #esoteric :/topic: the new way to chat < 1354481079 177267 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it is mosh's fault < 1354481093 343437 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1354481096 512541 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1354481101 927076 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^V^H doesn't work in irssi < 1354481112 261736 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net TOPIC #esoteric :/topic: the new way to chat | How arre you? | *-r < 1354481114 726973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i may have set a binding myself < 1354481115 41134 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on x-chat ctrl+shift+u-8 works but that's probably not the case in irssi < 1354481130 842046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^V escape_char < 1354481136 830603 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to /bind -delete ^H < 1354481143 17218 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can just do ctrl-h < 1354481166 438384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ^ the above binding is what i have, and allows me to do that with any control char < 1354481202 38348 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah < 1354481205 694907 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: that's not what i want to do < 1354481213 183153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably set it to resemble vim in that respect < 1354481320 707665 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/forget,_when_up_to_one%27s_neck_in_alligators,_that_the_mission_is_to_drain_the_swamp < 1354481365 809778 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say that's just having your priorities straight < 1354481377 936970 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that an actual term anyone has ever used < 1354481404 23303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: let's not forget, when up to one's neck in alligators, that the mission is to drain the swamp. it doesn't matter whether anyone has *used* the term. < 1354481433 114023 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬_¬ < 1354481437 457804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i've also bound home to scroll_start and end to scroll_end < 1354481446 670994 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is a lot of things making me feel guilty < 1354481464 809325 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not as if those nuns didn't deserve to be guillotined... < 1354481543 154386 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: thanks for that idiom < 1354481545 886013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i kept wanting to do that, while they by default just duplicated ^A and ^E. iirc. < 1354481552 154617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl__: please dont use that idiom < 1354481560 935104 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry < 1354481563 795315 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.40.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too good < 1354481700 589120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: They are beginning_of_line and end_of_line by default, yes. < 1354481726 890733 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does ecape_char even have a default binding < 1354481741 813327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not. At least it wasn't bound to anything for me. < 1354481749 979662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it is bound to ^V IT'S SPREADING < 1354481797 218379 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1354481810 886492 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i can bind something to type "/win " for me < 1354481815 549418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be cool < 1354481841 538267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :/lose big < 1354481873 255085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1354482183 384137 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@77.11.116.85 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354482237 959360 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1354482244 906609 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@77.11.116.85 NICK :hagb4rd < 1354482635 404718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes. < 1354482825 251270 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354482929 623326 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But how am I meant to get to the start or end of what I typed then < 1354483003 68539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: ^A and ^E, i said < 1354483045 158803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my initial setup, those had the same bindings as home and end. so i changed one pair to something else useful. < 1354483063 639747 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mess things up < 1354483073 388291 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mindfuck factor < 1354483091 237932 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:16:34 -!- TuxBlackEdo [~TuxBlackE@unaffiliated/tuxblackedo] has joined ##crypto < 1354483094 297270 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:17:16 hey i just met you, and this is crazy, but here is a cyphertext, crack it for me maybe? < 1354483100 695668 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :regretting joining this channel so i could let lambdabot in it < 1354483129 462439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well if you can now find a one-line lambdabot command to crack it, all will be well. < 1354483186 258153 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have ^A as my tmux key < 1354483192 8774 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if I pass ^A through < 1354483198 280125 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have that make a literal  < 1354483208 772098 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :For manually making CTCPs < 1354483253 534574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: fine, we can assume there's a reason irssi allows personal settings. < 1354483285 162129 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because otherwise nobody would use it? < 1354483301 867034 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1354483309 233552 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This IRC client makes CTRL+A send a literal CTRL+A for such purpose; to send other controls literal requires CTRL+P at first. < 1354483587 713664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep using ^A and ^E for start_of_line/end_of_line even though it's under screen; I just ^Aa all the time. It's very stupid. < 1354483597 620311 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered changing your screen key < 1354483600 412592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to not be stupid < 1354483623 859092 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that would just make me type a lot of ^As everywhere. < 1354483624 416840 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^A is the most convienient for me < 1354483657 977472 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The default key for tmux is ^B or some shizz < 1354483711 996484 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not as if I could think and operate a computer at the same time, so I have to keep doing the stupid thing. < 1354483792 474228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Is there a way to do a "/window list" that lists in the current buffer? < 1354483795 251561 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Current window. < 1354483797 715854 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thing. < 1354483818 257451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly imagines an intelligent race that cannot think and act at the same time, but must do all actions according to (short) preplanned algorithms < 1354483830 707989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You can not have a status window at all, I think that would do it. < 1354483843 100408 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you could try to pawlow self-conditioning < 1354483846 523466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that is not terribly satisfying < 1354483858 52528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*species < 1354483861 130193 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i would be ok with a way to write a key combo that switches to the status window and does /window list and then types "/window " for me i guess < 1354483862 521600 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: everytime you use type ^A bite yourself < 1354483866 748261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i could do like ^W < 1354483912 206663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What about Alt number? < 1354483920 539933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and once an algorithm has started, it cannot be halted, except according to its own rules, and no thinking can happen simultaneously. < 1354483949 209253 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that doesn't show me a list. this is for when i forget which number is which < 1354483959 331105 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You can probably do that switch-to-status thing. < 1354483971 522808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Just type the name in? < 1354483995 469154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the algorithms are too short to simulate any significant intelligence. < 1354484002 596212 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"/win goto the-full-name" is a bit long. < 1354484008 942810 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would accept "/w substring" < 1354484050 937695 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi elliott < 1354484055 927055 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely tonight < 1354484065 738819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it occurs to me that such an intelligence species would get around this by cooperation. < 1354484070 663788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-nt < 1354484084 77977 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: not quite < 1354484087 998807 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should bind scroll_start and scroll_end to something < 1354484093 742172 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be useful < 1354484114 377282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "/bind X multi change_window 1;command window list;insert_text /win " (with the trailing space) where X is your key, I think. < 1354484116 383273 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, are you getting addicted to lens? < 1354484117 976825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : switch (core.opcode_index+Fetchb()) { < 1354484118 50350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : #include "core_normal/prefix_none.h" < 1354484118 210964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : #include "core_normal/prefix_0f.h" < 1354484118 284285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : #include "core_normal/prefix_66.h" < 1354484136 594089 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :intelligence seems not be the best method for multitasking < 1354484139 394257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: more like addicted to HAPPINESS < 1354484154 406711 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Okay, let's try this. (Is ^W bound to anything by default?) < 1354484165 242863 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's bound to the usual delete-word thing. < 1354484182 458775 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1354484183 675231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use that. < 1354484198 809685 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are lenses and can they be given a succinct, incomprehensible definition in terms of category theory < 1354484259 589771 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There to Functors as something else is to Applicatives < 1354484297 214797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: Traversables? < 1354484306 277359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely recalls something about that < 1354484311 542543 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, something more category theoryish < 1354484361 808619 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lens is not a functor, although there is functor from category of isomorphisms of (->) to Lens, I think. < 1354484362 840540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought lens had a spot where you put in either Functor or Applicative and the former gave you an ordinary lens < 1354484367 654856 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, basically, they use functors to generalize functions and setters to the SAME THING < 1354484375 133395 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes < 1354484405 887615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But perhaps they could be made on other categories too, I don't know < 1354484440 346755 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: store comonad coalgebra or something < 1354484465 928965 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah: "Lenses are the coalgebras for the costate comonad" < 1354484484 257478 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are colenses algebras for the state monad < 1354484493 823603 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask shachaf < 1354484501 642933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION might perhaps look at lens properly some day. < 1354484516 911887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although maybe not until after upgrading the platform. < 1354484527 417194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1354484528 958238 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I just made lots of alt+shift and then ^Z bindings < 1354484534 330801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm at least two versions behind. < 1354484542 817354 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do ^Z-shift or ^Z-alt when I'll need it < 1354484543 201032 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would an algebra in the state monad even look like < 1354484544 947466 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conans are to good cooperation what nans are to good operation. < 1354484548 338457 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"State b a -> a"? < 1354484550 112280 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1354484550 185726 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-239.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1354484550 185897 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354484574 410337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i thought Conans were barbarians. < 1354484588 43887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: Yep. < 1354484593 208231 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it's cool, nans are grandmothers < 1354484595 251608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess algebra of state monad would be like ((s -> (a, s)) -> a) < 1354484689 412712 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A grandmother certainly isn't a number < 1354484694 989343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that Conan that is a comedian. i guess his nan is rather median, then. < 1354484702 904128 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and conan is an instance of barbarian < 1354484705 761439 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1354484733 250056 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354484738 715898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nan the Cobarbarian. < 1354484854 322999 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no remorse & no regret < 1354484868 119199 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-67-216.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354484987 187432 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24.52.224.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354485081 573891 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG an elf siege < 1354485086 861697 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never had an elf siege before < 1354485110 455343 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: edwardk fixed it < 1354485134 119636 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354485147 161987 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1354485197 137059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1354485292 551512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: do the elves walk around saying "siege heil"? < 1354485309 859279 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1354485542 357615 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nan the Cobarbarian. <-- I read that as "Nam" < 1354485554 918162 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was wondering why you were joking about Indian food < 1354485776 646030 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, < 1354485784 176470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the indian bread is called 'naan' < 1354485823 719386 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's flat and tasty < 1354485823 994807 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, is that how it is written in Swedish though? *checks* < 1354485825 692562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah that's a palindrome < 1354485839 129426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nån < 1354485846 205103 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yeah you are right < 1354485891 605831 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Sometimes also plain 'nan'; I refer to it as "not-a-number bread" personally. < 1354485902 407416 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :palindrome is disappointing because it's not autological < 1354485935 727221 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I haven't seen bread that was a number < 1354485937 77044 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354485967 804660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Nam" is also a Finnish interjection much the same as the English "yum". < 1354485976 261677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nam#Interjection agrees. < 1354485978 54120 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, i bet you're really popular with all the local takeaways < 1354485986 468865 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nom nom nom < 1354486047 672983 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I don't think I've ever had to mention it to one of those; the not-a-number designation has pretty much been confined to discussions at home about what to buy from the store. < 1354486101 356240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you know how hard it is to segfault DOSBox with bad guest code? if you answered "not at all hard" then you are correct < 1354486123 712925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf '\x62\xe5' > foo.com && dosbox foo.com < 1354486140 975894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, Volapük also has the word "nam". < 1354486147 961771 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Hell, I have it happen even with valid DOS programs < 1354486152 364282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Etymology: Reversal of “man”, from Latin manus (“hand”)." < 1354486164 202814 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mandible < 1354486165 913581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It means "hand".) < 1354486166 979987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: That's not very hard. < 1354486228 352262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOSBox doesn't check segment limits either. :/ < 1354486313 471317 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its OPL emulation seems better than worse though < 1354486341 257967 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can poke the VGA memory with a xor ax, ax; mov ds, ax; mov eax, 0xa0000; mov byte [eax], 42 in it. < 1354486379 262958 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would happen on a 386 machine in 16 bit mode with that code? < 1354486387 399368 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a 486 < 1354486487 280879 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not entirely sure, but I'd guess an exception in at least virtual-8086 mode; maybe not in real-address mode. < 1354486527 173655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps in real-address mode too. < 1354486530 85238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly that segfault is only a call to a NULL function pointer < 1354486564 295341 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354486615 597159 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In the real-address mode, vector 13 is the segment overrun exception" just going by the name, that could happen. < 1354486774 582744 :nys!~nysnamovo@24.142.60.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354486877 363401 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1354486937 953193 :nys!~nysnamovo@24.142.60.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i just got this idea < 1354486940 196318 :nys!~nysnamovo@24.142.60.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/UnfL0Z7T < 1354486950 258978 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Looks like segfaults aren't very hard to come by. < 1354486961 859243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, or maybe I was just wrong. < 1354487169 136246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you observe? < 1354487199 197758 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354487288 171062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, printf '\x44\x51' > foo.com && dosbox foo.com < 1354487305 885557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike 62 e5, this isn't an invalid instruction. < 1354487316 217522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just inc sp; push cx < 1354487338 418197 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So overwrite whatever was on top of stack < 1354487353 878320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1354487360 501315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't *think* that's supposed to segfault it... < 1354487364 998065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But will the program terminate, or probably it will result something invalid and break it? < 1354487369 340410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :segfaults my Debian DOSBox 0.74 but not the SVN trunk version < 1354487374 330450 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354487432 608581 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think the top of the stack would contain the return to dos < 1354487443 961206 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that shouldn't matter < 1354487518 962409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Anyway there are a bunch of other 2-byte .com files that will crash it. < 1354487529 575548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you try them all? < 1354487553 363035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To return to DOS using the stack I think you will need a RET instruction, though. < 1354487558 571023 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1354487560 878154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1354487566 518352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I generated them all but trying them is a hassle. < 1354487569 132732 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise the CPU would just go past your program and then execute whatever < 1354487702 295406 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems the guest can install a callback for certain events (not the ISA-provided interrupt vector mechanism but some DOSBox thing) and the default callback is "jump to address 0 in the host" < 1354487732 876814 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1354487790 447547 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that implementing the "mount" command? < 1354487828 409928 :nys!~nysnamovo@24.142.60.139 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354487841 54447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1354488075 444901 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354488139 392676 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354488271 926385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: How did you come across it? < 1354488280 849230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :randomly < 1354488366 68736 :nys!~nysnamovo@24.142.60.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354488375 216643 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi elliott < 1354488381 361985 :nys!~nysnamovo@24.142.60.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi < 1354488400 615435 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not night yet < 1354488459 507041 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you really not < 1354488462 254678 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :started the fortess yetr < 1354488468 941238 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you ever going to.......................... < 1354488500 312778 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354488515 615317 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one step at a time man! < 1354488527 535924 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first, get df working (come on you must have done this) < 1354488539 816209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to come up with a way to make sure Phantom_Hoover won't cheat!! < 1354488546 829547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about cats and explosoins < 1354488552 352795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: imo don't play df btw < 1354488566 86570 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing df means not fixing lens : ) < 1354488595 858275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: What happened to your nose? < 1354488617 22718 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's invisible < 1354488627 350193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⿐ < 1354488628 288266 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. stylized out < 1354488654 208558 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. it's a " " < 1354488659 26040 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. can't you see it???? < 1354488674 134981 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3) < 1354488686 264950 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1354488690 481931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: whats alt. < 1354488693 712477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like ctrl < 1354488695 46200 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively < 1354488707 718453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like meta < 1354488713 92453 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :super < 1354488797 856273 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354488845 382794 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354489058 170995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:Carriage#Representation_erasure < 1354489058 405705 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1354490494 125058 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my god it's full of (5-legged) stars < 1354490745 886039 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354491868 526676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: *MWAHAHAHA* < 1354491897 168631 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you not say "five-legged"? < 1354491941 362036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think five-pointed is more common, although my maniackal laugh was not about that. < 1354492022 751247 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do i know that from? < 1354492036 756256 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds familiar < 1354492045 206989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's even a wp article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-pointed_star < 1354492233 690354 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i find legs more accurate than points since it 10 of them < 1354492239 930539 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has < 1354492260 823834 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pentagram has 5, right < 1354492276 551941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1354492297 778985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: um isn't the mutual recursion in ocaml solved the same way with types as with functions, by using "and"? < 1354492328 615476 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that? < 1354492335 828632 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will try in 3.2 seconds < 1354492352 686750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION keeps count < 1354492384 559133 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WORKS < 1354492386 301573 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1354492389 57462 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was simple < 1354492392 669264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does a little dance < 1354492419 593252 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I had always thought "it's stupid that you can do mutual recursion for variables but not for types" < 1354492445 227143 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of a problem I have, though < 1354492480 883662 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance when playing a board game and my opponent does something unexpected I will usually think "uh, that's a weird move" rather than "ok, now, why did he do that?" < 1354492516 727050 :nys!~nysnamovo@24.142.60.139 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1354492570 842584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously this is simpler in haskell >:) < 1354492571 155600 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand this would pretty much depend on the move < 1354492615 243574 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a native operator in haskell to get the cartesian product? < 1354492632 182648 :Bike!~Glossina@207-224-23-226.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can it be simpler than "use and" < 1354492635 663837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> liftM2 (,) "may" "be" < 1354492637 53920 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [('m','b'),('m','e'),('a','b'),('a','e'),('y','b'),('y','e')] < 1354492667 812897 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1354492731 607027 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.11.116.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't it be more like may X be? < 1354492737 371002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: admittedly for values/functions you also need to use "rec", i think < 1354492773 232217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: it's not _that_ often you need it i think...