< 1354147275 640314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Do you know the TRUE MEANING OF EMPLOYMENT?????? < 1354147339 97929 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354147457 939562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EMPLOYMENT IS SLAVERY. WAR IS PEACE. CHEESE IS FUNGUS. < 1354147460 802913 :sirdancealot8!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1354147569 897576 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :all is fungus < 1354147618 307160 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no fungus. There is only Zuul. < 1354147628 509820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :är det inte fungal olsner som sitter där borta < 1354147730 784318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.woodland-ways.co.uk/buy-online-gatekeeper-guide-to-common-fungi-598.html < 1354147738 77105 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354148104 616889 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :er det ikke en sopp-oerjan som sitter der? < 1354148129 119519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if olsner is too young for the reference.
< 1354148138 748477 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reference? < 1354148144 653082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1354148167 663437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what the reference is.
< 1354148297 833651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a swedish sketch from 1958 < 1354148310 701845 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am indeed younger than 1958 < 1354148320 959285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so am i. < 1354148325 543090 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the sketch even invented back then? < 1354148338 274018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently so. < 1354148345 437602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was sweden even invented then < 1354148368 757596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv-WDb2HSbQ < 1354148591 176447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sees "ester" mentioned in the related sidebar, recalls that was funny too. (if you understand swedish. and can imagine a time without cell phones.)
< 1354148714 664000 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :esther is a name in english too < 1354148734 630108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, it's biblical < 1354148774 834859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that < 1354148789 957104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s not relevant to the sketch, though. afair.) < 1354148831 277455 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the sketch about how phones are new and people don't really know how to use them? < 1354148880 835045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the whole plot just doesn't make sense if the people could have called each other in advance, is all :P < 1354149809 756832 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, is that mocking the swedish in some way < 1354149849 200299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the swedish as such? no. < 1354149865 518957 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it mocking a swede then < 1354149888 919425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1354149894 272328 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :approve! < 1354149922 430680 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354149988 621889 :sirdancealot8!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354150379 48226 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354150440 517454 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1354150485 626171 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1354150751 792014 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354150986 435168 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354152338 862823 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354153735 302440 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354153869 383935 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354156014 709423 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354157517 929816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.floppytable.com/ < 1354157522 260556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if this were a real floppy disk it would hold... 75 MB < 1354157955 796642 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1354157992 512198 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there aren't any scaling issues? < 1354158329 371536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you need a pretty big scale for it, i'd say < 1354158910 966537 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The parsing process in reentrant. Usually the source doesn't change during parsing, but in HTML, script tags containing document.write can add extra tokens, so the parsing process actually modifies the input." < 1354158939 769781 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is document.write changing the input to the parser during parsing? < 1354158957 885168 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it during javascript execution? Unless that can happen concurrently with parsing < 1354159602 246019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :document.lol < 1354159629 558454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1354159635 939666 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"www.liceo.edu.mx is an example of a site that achieves a level of nesting of about 1500 tags, all from a bunch of s. We will only allow at most 20 nested tags of the same type before just ignoring them all together." < 1354159668 15465 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Support for really broken html. We never close the body tag, since some stupid web pages close it before the actual end of the doc. Let's rely on the end() call to close things." < 1354159865 565960 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you not tried html scraping before? (if so I recommend continuing that course of inaction) < 1354159886 774310 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354160121 567299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Strong-Web-Design.aspx < 1354160198 586024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've used python's BeautifulSoup in the past for web scraping; it is pretty reasonable < 1354160226 462965 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but i mean, nobody writes conforming html, there's always a bunch of stupid edge cases < 1354160244 904822 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and: the dprk's website is now all flash-based. :( < 1354160245 177650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think in the future for any really complicated scraping i will use PhantomJS to launch a real (headless) webkit browser and execute jQuery code in the page's context < 1354160262 159637 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why does that sound reasonable < 1354160274 381047 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the w3c write conforming html? < 1354160287 239750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this way you can interact with the real client javascript, all kinds of ajaxy things will work right, etc < 1354160311 529127 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme put it this way, sgeo. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=google.com < 1354160323 865968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually some ajaxy sites are really easy to scrape because you can just make those same queries and get nice json < 1354160358 729045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like this school of webapp design where you implement an API, and then you serve an entirely static blob of HTML/CSS/JavaScript which is just one of many clients that can talk to that API < 1354160420 861971 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good to me < 1354160557 595788 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.3 < 1354160629 639479 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have penetrated my exaggeration < 1354161704 579044 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354162162 818343 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whelp, looks like I can still read Finnish about as well as I've ever been able to. < 1354162189 776212 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what "ei" and "se" and "mitä" mean. And "tietää" looks familiar. < 1354162232 378746 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here we go, it's "to know (superficially)". < 1354162510 666648 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mies, Haluan oppia puhumaan suomea. Minusta se näyttää todella siistiä. < 1354162532 708928 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Luulen vain pitää oppia joukko sanastoa, ja ehkä myös joitakin kieliopin kun olen sitä. < 1354162546 359581 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1354162623 235879 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tai voisin keksiä omia sanojani, kuten "tarvuolenti". < 1354162646 997694 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tarvuolenti" tekisi hieno suomalainen sana. < 1354162663 562886 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laajamittainen kissanpentu dynamiikkaa. < 1354164022 275407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘asm’ < 1354164664 730506 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1354164690 101314 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354164729 623199 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, USPS changed a package's expected delivery date to November 28th… today. That is, they changed the expected delivery date to today, today. Well after it would have been delivered. Bad estimation there, USPS. < 1354164745 459670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :USPS tracking is a joke < 1354164763 783232 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the package delivered today? < 1354164765 862912 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually it goes from "we have no knowledge your package exists" straight to "your package was delivered two days ago" < 1354165168 843695 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: No. < 1354165209 951763 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame < 1354166365 829526 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354166397 174603 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1354167711 817287 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354168851 76591 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354169106 172084 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1354170083 450048 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354170101 712953 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354170556 270879 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: jfischoff < 1354173132 309770 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: update? < 1354173144 860520 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, oh right, forgot sorry < 1354173153 314216 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, elliott you too < 1354173163 903280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1354173165 403972 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott elliott elliott elliott elliott < 1354176093 924109 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1354177372 740107 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354177595 36150 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to define an operation that fits this I forget what it's called: < 1354177606 932375 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiplication : addition :: addition : ? < 1354177616 200182 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently playing with ln(e^a + e^b) = a ? b < 1354177626 405965 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ? a = a + ln 2 < 1354177634 104026 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I would like is a ? a = a + 2 < 1354177730 373338 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ? 0 > 0 < 1354177740 492532 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A property of the current definition) < 1354177773 20574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiplication is repeated addition, addition is repeated successor. < 1354177808 964460 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was hoping for a more binary operator < 1354177920 4530 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1354177939 373219 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a suc b = a + 1 < 1354177986 876682 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION glares. One less .. trivial.
< 1354178181 817209 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm stumped < 1354178273 120963 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that my current definition of ? is on some sort of track < 1354178292 849768 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After all, it is doing an addition operation of some sort when a repeated value is given < 1354178366 238107 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354178414 987990 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a ? 0 > 0 seems like a reasonable property for it to have, since presumably repeated 0 ? should be 0 + a positive < 1354178751 836342 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354179273 869508 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1354179534 455718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Misc/20121129-weather.png oh yes that looks very promising. < 1354179872 298048 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of a cheap hack < 1354179922 619943 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ? b = ln(((e^2)/2)(e^a) + ((e^2)/2)(e^b)) < 1354179928 169644 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feels like cheating though < 1354179974 363486 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I still have no idea whether the bloody thing is associative < 1354179984 801961 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1354180122 346045 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n*a ? n*a = a + somefunction(n) < 1354180148 738228 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where somefunction is a fixed function that I'm too lazy to work out what it is now < 1354180189 284331 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that can't possibly work, I think < 1354180213 380563 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by "can't possibly work", I mean "I'm wrong" < 1354180232 869305 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n * 0 ? n * 0 surely should be the same for all n < 1354180255 789163 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, hasty thinking about the na thing < 1354180271 592130 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: why the graph? < 1354180285 452111 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354180291 925659 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you love graphs don't you < 1354180328 753443 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354180396 873275 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: It wasn't *my* graph, it was just stolen from Foreca. < 1354180400 513896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, yes I do. < 1354180429 414757 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find them a bit.... two-dimensional < 1354180473 377959 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION throws oklofok into a mathematical space capabable of describing all IRC activity ever across all of time as a single point.
< 1354180478 853808 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that enough dimensions for you? < 1354180498 392842 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354180526 672092 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can describe all IRC activity ever across all of time as a single real number; I mean, it's just a string. < 1354180553 548151 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously the underlying field was finite here. < 1354180557 609054 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was beginning to realize that :/ < 1354180611 182750 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__ was referring to the vector space F^Z for a finite field F < 1354180635 968018 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is just being modest < 1354180663 898106 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :woohoo i managed to delete 15gb of shit from my hd. < 1354180676 892899 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my os is on a 50 gb flash drive thingie whatever < 1354180712 18022 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354180728 803309 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i've never realized this but many things in windows are hard-coded to use that particular drive (well you can change them one by one in the registry for some things). < 1354180760 963275 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think SSDs should be called QUANTUM DRIVES. < 1354180763 345687 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the drive was like 80% full right away. < 1354180790 666235 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just realized almost half of that was taken up by windows.old, which is just an old installation of windows that is used for nothing. < 1354180818 15817 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason i didn't realize that in the 1.5 years i've had this computer is of course that you can't make win7 show you folder sizes < 1354180863 914772 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the user data is inexplicably stored on the os drive < 1354180923 249895 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also many shitty programs (like chrome) install on the os drive without asking you. < 1354180932 984557 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :28G archive/hut/lktm/ < 1354180935 52977 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the directory holding stuff about a book authorship machine classification thing we did as a project exercise for T-61.5020 Statistical Natural Language Processing. < 1354180942 346660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One day I should perhaps clean it up. < 1354180954 609921 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of an asshole fucking world-rapist doesn't ask you where you wanna install the program? < 1354181082 779934 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how in hell does everything get fucked up if i just *move* a folder, windows knows where i moved it so why can't it just automatically ask if i wanna make a link there so everything works as before!?!?!? < 1354181107 702258 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get why everything having to do with computers has to be a piece of shit < 1354181158 290036 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i kind of do get that, it's because programming is so fucking annoying you get bored of doing things right after a few thousand lines of code. < 1354181170 125145 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i love to complain anyways, i guess i'm just a romantic < 1354181215 711665 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so how's that going for ya? < 1354181233 354800 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you download arxiv and run your classifier on it? < 1354181247 155447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I "wanna". < 1354181277 125462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I haven't touched the thing since 2008, I'm sure it's rotted away by now. < 1354181280 99622 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you making fun of my typing impediment < 1354181299 687993 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also we have some coauthored papers, could we use your thing to check which one actually wrote them? < 1354181353 408217 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i didn't go to work today so i can move. i've been watching himym and ircing. < 1354181354 719621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose, but it's not the good thing. There are several other things around that are better things. < 1354181385 991715 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those more good things that are better things, are those things objectively good things? < 1354181468 480508 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, yes. There are papers about those things, whereas our thing was just done for this course and has some dubious design choices. We've on-and-off talked about making a good thing out of it, but it's never happened. < 1354181473 528602 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and didn't you run this sorta thing on the #esoteric logs? < 1354181489 461110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did run it, and it was this same thing. < 1354181498 36883 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it was something slightly different. < 1354181501 300550 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and didn't you run this sorta thing on the #esoteric logs with names changed to the guesses on the right? < 1354181507 632254 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1354181508 993212 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1354181513 645340 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try that again :D < 1354181536 27173 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you make a thing where you have #eso logs on the left and logs with names changed to the guesses on the right? < 1354181549 793390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I made a confusion matrix of it. < 1354181551 300165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ ls archive/hut/lktm/data/irc < 1354181551 374101 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 augur ehird GregorR oerjan psygnisfive < 1354181551 374257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster conversation_lengths.txt fizzie lament oklopol SimonRC < 1354181551 374367 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka Deewiant fungot MikeRiley pikhq Slereah < 1354181551 923313 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if these are befunge-93 as they likely are, that may be handy < 1354181557 864334 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It certainly looks #esoteric-y. < 1354181586 276046 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION murders fizzie
< 1354181597 491536 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: you skype messaged me the other day < 1354181600 698735 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::! < 1354181607 117488 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes i did < 1354181613 480257 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what of it < 1354181624 344810 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing, random observation. < 1354181644 275886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :./lktm/doc/figures/girls_on_top.png < 1354181644 509698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :./lktm/doc/figures/boys_on_top.png < 1354181651 731097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :These file names are somehow suspicious. < 1354181682 213055 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they should probably be .jpg. < 1354181714 296580 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::! was supposed to be a smiley equivalent to the previous sentence having an exclamation mark but it doesn't really look like that. < 1354181741 446980 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Misc/boys_on_top.png https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Misc/girls_on_top.png They don't mean anything, but they sure look pretty, right? < 1354181780 87073 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They actually look kind of jpeggy even though they're PNGs. < 1354181798 688905 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i supposed to see something other than 404 < 1354181805 771138 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1354181814 513292 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i copied both links as the url. < 1354181831 367608 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Maybe it's that marker/hex shape, it's kind of crummy. < 1354181838 653897 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, I think so. < 1354181850 717298 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that thing? < 1354181859 819192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the U-matrix. < 1354181869 374776 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the U-matrix with markers on top. < 1354181881 904362 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :me matrix? wow thanks :) < 1354181914 400802 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The U-matrix is the average distance between one node and its neighbours. < 1354181926 710275 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: speaking of you and i being best friends, did i ever mentioned me and my ex discussed having you as the only guest in our wedding < 1354181926 987222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a SOM thing. < 1354181933 803864 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mention < 1354181947 171605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You didn't, and that's kind of weird. < 1354181960 230838 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1354181992 551157 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may be true. < 1354182024 774651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As for the plots, the blue markers are boys, the red markers are girls, and the green markers are other things.) < 1354182242 443653 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it helps, it's not (only??) because we were hopelessly in love with you but because you were suitably disconnected yet physically reachable and much less mystical, ethereal and dangerous than Deewiant. < 1354182300 50948 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mystical, ethereal, and dangerous? < 1354182303 656517 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally < 1354182308 586248 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1354182308 741886 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you disagree < 1354182318 555575 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have much of an opinion. < 1354182375 831580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey I found the confusion matrix, it's at http://zem.fi/~fis/esoconf.png and it's really boring. < 1354182398 891037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was for some easy classification task and it actually wasn't the same thing as that thing. < 1354182441 394584 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well dunno about dangerous, but i find it easier to believe fizzie has a physical essence, perhaps because he has mentioned being in places more. < 1354182525 629911 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so what about those guess-who-said-it logs? < 1354182552 9329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, it kind of sounds like work. < 1354182556 877394 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how about an irc client that guesses who said each thing < 1354182567 406524 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game version of it has been suggested a couple of times too. < 1354182612 716473 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well is there a version of the program you can send key-value pairs to and when you send a new value it guesses a key based on it? i could write a mirc script to do this then. < 1354182737 358101 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing as written is an offline thing, you train it with a batch of data. (And individual-line accuracy would be a bit poor, the features are simple statistics and not anything very discriminative.) < 1354182757 99506 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1354182785 76210 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you train it with half of what x says and query the other half in one batch or something? < 1354182825 955918 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or how can individual-line accuracy be poor if the confusion matrix says i'm never confused with anyone < 1354182842 502616 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess if someone says "okay" it's a bit hard to tell who it is < 1354182876 227632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that plot was with 10-fold cross-validation; train with 9/10s of the data and test with the remaining tenth. < 1354182891 738465 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then average over all ten cases. < 1354182931 974478 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1354182945 518308 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the algo something explainable? < 1354182996 571927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The LKTM thing was a SOM thing, while the esoconf thing was really just a garden-variety SVM classifier. < 1354183033 712675 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xn--nxa.zem.fi/~fis/esoconfnf.png is a version which apparently used as test material bunched 2000-message snippets, which already makes the statistics far more variable. < 1354183091 354340 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for vorpal and me < 1354183121 790331 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're special < 1354183125 479525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://p.zem.fi/esomap-feats the features; there's nothing really tuned for personal identification < 1354183136 632672 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sgeo < 1354183147 366723 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i guess alise < 1354183153 811119 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xn--nxa.zem.fi/~fis/esomap34n.png how the cross-validation sets look like when projected to 2d. < 1354183174 993478 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why all these subdomains < 1354183294 412787 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i be close to Deewiant < 1354183323 890651 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does that mean anything since we're not intersecting < 1354183355 527101 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess vorpal and fizzie win according to that graph < 1354183361 266762 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Not for any particular reason. I thought I'd make the paste site URLs "p.zem.fi/X" as opposed to "zem.fi/p/X" for some reason, and β is the dynamic-IP web server laptop at home, I keep all space-wasting useless stuff /~fis/ stuff there since zem.fi doesn't have too much disk space. < 1354183364 509741 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that projection i mean < 1354183410 350029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: It is a projection from 60 dimensions to 2, so some of the apparent overlaps could really be quite illusionary. < 1354183449 298357 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does png support 60-dimensional pictures? < 1354183468 892740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it does. < 1354183480 159254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet JPEG does. < 1354183488 655153 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :just 2d? that's a bit arbitrary < 1354183512 239066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :JPEG is, if I remember correctly, ridiculously general. < 1354183539 684165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maximum JPEG image size is 65535x65535, that's not very general. < 1354183554 273873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1354183591 150556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIFF is, if I recall correctly, also quite general. < 1354183598 442169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIFF implementations, on the other hand, could be anything but. < 1354183707 331859 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'd like to know what the "34n" means in the file name of that plot.) < 1354183744 314391 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also esomap, esomapf, esomapn and esomapnz. < 1354183758 665839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And esomap-comp. < 1354187442 36375 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1354187587 589666 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354189175 628507 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1354193557 957911 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354193848 966000 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354196006 730191 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1354196209 880099 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1354196293 93932 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354196788 654515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354196811 128669 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1354196814 974094 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1354196860 122071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1354197282 898064 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1354197416 169278 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354197769 384052 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1354199960 615248 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@dsl-olubrasgw2-fe6bf800-88.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354202113 479561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354202144 395323 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: maybe there's an answer to your question among this material. anyway i haven't any information about this magic value while giving it a quick read http://www.awaresystems.be/imaging/tiff/faq.html#q3 < 1354202168 192863 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd < 1354202601 481741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the "34n" in my "esomap34n.png" PNG file name has anything to do with the TIFF specification, to be honest. < 1354202923 25765 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354202989 38371 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354203662 656985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how do i get irssi to ping me even if my nick isn't at the start of a sentence < 1354203685 468588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess /hilight elliott would work, but ew. < 1354203689 595902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And would that catch, e.g. elliott_?) < 1354203878 132932 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354203900 541113 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will also catch blablahblahelliottblahblahblah < 1354203906 590166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that works. < 1354204256 502606 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1354204449 845073 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354205094 324213 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354205677 612991 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A manual /hilight is I think what people generally do. < 1354205859 842587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they want to customize, that is, since the default hilight_nick_matches can't really be configurated. < 1354205995 390697 :Mathnerd314!~quassel@palevsky-223-221.rh.uchicago.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, does Nile count as an esolang? since nobody outside of VPRI has ever heard of it? or is it just obscure? < 1354206108 119433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which reminds me, I should probably /hilight -level QUITS -mask fungot!*@* so that I'd notice that better. If it works. < 1354206109 457069 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: am i allowed to ask: no. you can patternmatch out the ones you mentioned, and also... check out something like " this subset gives row 3 an 8, 16, 32, 64 ( ordinary machine words). < 1354206328 285017 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354206572 911947 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1354207790 929692 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354207868 360688 :kulymas!~kulymas@cpe-76-169-101-6.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1354207916 838027 :kulymas!~kulymas@cpe-76-169-101-6.socal.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi? < 1354207932 110437 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey! < 1354207937 424793 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome kulymas < 1354207949 4364 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kulymas: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1354208010 264495 :kulymas!~kulymas@cpe-76-169-101-6.socal.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is what happens when I click random stuff on mirc.. lol < 1354208049 764022 :kulymas!~kulymas@cpe-76-169-101-6.socal.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds interesting :} < 1354208101 729662 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1354208131 442239 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, an esoteric programming language is like a programming language written to be weird in some way < 1354208135 894935 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not useful, but weird < 1354208264 186245 :kulymas!~kulymas@cpe-76-169-101-6.socal.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it could be useful in illuding authorities rright? < 1354208283 742943 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not saying they can't be useful < 1354208286 990606 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1354208288 86032 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: to provably shortest possible equivalent code. the css may be a lot of modality in the source and sink of all of the < 1354208297 936911 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That bot is written in an esoteric programming language < 1354208299 592956 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1354208299 943930 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98 < 1354208335 264296 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, can esoteric programming languages be useful in eluding authorities? < 1354208335 969809 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: then you just continue the pattern ( ( f text-formatter) name))? < 1354208408 910777 :kulymas!~kulymas@cpe-76-169-101-6.socal.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so pretty much like encryption? < 1354208424 325298 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...probably not < 1354208444 764679 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like "here's a stupid idea for a programming language, let's push it to the max!" < 1354208508 579087 :kulymas!~kulymas@cpe-76-169-101-6.socal.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any video games that are programed like this? < 1354208604 287610 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I don't know < 1354208606 897934 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1354208618 690299 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was an interactive fiction game in brainfuck < 1354208679 49307 :kulymas!~kulymas@cpe-76-169-101-6.socal.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds cool :} < 1354208700 446622 :kulymas!~kulymas@cpe-76-169-101-6.socal.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd love to speak brainfuck < 1354208828 175948 :kulymas!~kulymas@cpe-76-169-101-6.socal.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the info, I'll come back to this another day. For now, back to java < 1354208862 868437 :kulymas!~kulymas@cpe-76-169-101-6.socal.res.rr.com PART :#esoteric < 1354209037 421692 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1354209039 311639 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1354209039 311793 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1354209045 238898 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1354209063 348507 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354209294 523370 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354209495 785906 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1354209507 160056 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354209546 665692 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reeeeeeeeplicators < 1354209561 369814 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the reeeeeeeeeeplicators! < 1354209599 843231 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not even a single clicking sound all episode < 1354209990 199021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Why do mentions of my nick in the middle of a line highlight the nick of the person who wrote it differently? :( < 1354210080 933486 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1354210091 439660 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello mroman < 1354210119 645454 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you tell me what language the interpreter at http://esolangs.org/wiki/MIX is written in? < 1354210139 910445 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, Python, it looks like < 1354210149 32826 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1354210162 714398 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what is the counter, what is the index, and what is mix? < 1354210190 180585 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm assuming the counter is an instruction pointer that you can modify from flow control < 1354210208 18685 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm assuming the index is some kind of data pointer < 1354210227 988336 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there doesn't seem to be a way to access that data < 1354210244 544921 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hi < 1354210249 617155 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello elliott < 1354210253 502042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1354210286 945542 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello elliott < 1354210290 676931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1354210307 360226 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :test elliott < 1354210348 446570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:31:57 * hackagebot MemoTrie 0.6.1 - Trie-based memo functions http://hackage.haskell.org/package/MemoTrie-0.6.1 (ConalElliott) < 1354210351 820590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this line highlights me now :( < 1354210381 526070 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ConalElliott: Like elliott, but shaped like a cone! < 1354210433 749308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: Hey, can you do /me test elliotttest < 1354210437 116066 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354210448 486815 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION test testelliott
< 1354210454 757605 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION test eliotttest
< 1354210506 141091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1354210507 644036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok hmm < 1354210541 447835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1354210576 504684 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only want to match on \ right < 1354210597 748110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1354210604 574934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this behaviour is mostly acceptable since "elliott_:" < 1354210623 135445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just annoying that it highlights weirdly for /mes < 1354210632 720700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(highlights my nick rather than the nick of the person saying it, unlike normal messages) < 1354210664 880134 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see the same, got used to it < 1354210710 671469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least irssi is behaving mostly usably now < 1354211005 877298 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354211009 44933 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use the \ type matching in irssi. it works fine. matches in every context that someone uses my full name < 1354211828 136366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You can give flags (-nick, -word or -line) that control what the hilight looks like. I think -nick should hilight the speaker's name. But I'm not terribly sure; maybe it no work for /me, since -nick is the default anyway. < 1354211872 513757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I set -nick and it didn't show that it was -nick in the /hilight list < 1354211878 137838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I assumed it dropped it because it's "default" < 1354212728 363841 :Frooxius_!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354212729 665215 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354212779 988929 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1354212786 6053 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1354213056 775225 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354213179 640090 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354213585 282821 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1354213596 966060 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1354213965 329544 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354217507 617336 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropbox.com/u/113389132/Misc/poirot-wtf.png BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN < 1354217551 338252 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, maybe it means Wednesday-Thursday-Friday, as my wife suggests. < 1354217577 596790 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm presuming "CHELSEAN" means Chelsea, roughly < 1354217598 553884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "of Chelsea" in this case. < 1354217602 893575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could also be "Chelsea's". < 1354217614 486924 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second word, I have no idea < 1354217621 533943 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuckanately < 1354217623 227124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flower show. < 1354217634 884260 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1354217635 547613 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that explains that < 1354217663 955710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe "flower exhibition" is closer. < 1354217679 459578 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, the Chelsea Flower Show is a thing < 1354217979 398648 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354217986 509077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1354217988 395821 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1354217988 469541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For context, YLE (the Finnish national broadcast company) is showing 38 first episodes of the David Suchet Poirot TV show, two/weekend. < 1354218020 147114 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was leaning out his window < 1354218031 311383 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To see if the bread was being made < 1354218099 334476 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that happened too. < 1354218115 603682 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it was already some weeks ago. < 1354218176 605465 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The TV adaptations seem to switch things around quite a bit. I think this Chelsea Flower Show thing was originally a Marple story. < 1354218212 592326 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that's the only Poirot ending I know < 1354218226 815090 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My gran always flicks because she's seen them before < 1354218282 765481 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1354218302 48028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen these before a long enough time ago that I don't remember them; but I've reread them more recently. At least there's the "let's see how much they changed" element of surprise, though. < 1354218316 497139 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354218463 861067 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, did you start the fortress yet? < 1354218475 113197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: no < 1354218478 814548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ping me later at night and I will < 1354218486 212199 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is night! < 1354218490 580177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1354218493 31649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is evening < 1354218493 831206 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But later at night I'll be asleep! < 1354218505 805141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that is your fault < 1354218517 126053 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq, god man get with `the program' < 1354218545 935893 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never go to sleep the day before you intend to wake up < 1354218564 445451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel as if Phantom_Hoover is mocking me < 1354218623 102207 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still not confident that you actually sleep < 1354218769 908235 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott sleeps on a cycle of weeks, not hours < 1354218780 539706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lion sleeps tonight. < 1354218792 457284 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, but that's in the jungle! < 1354218800 638576 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :much like elliott! < 1354218936 278151 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point < 1354219350 358226 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354219464 341977 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey elliott is it night yet < 1354219486 32240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354219521 260910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1354219568 90860 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You heard him, ais523 < 1354219606 435520 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get out < 1354219614 144486 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't want your sort here any more < 1354219689 901949 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :random thought: befunge with the additional constraint that instructions that have already been executed are treated as no-ops < 1354219711 396762 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub-tc, i think < 1354219717 349033 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd have to replicate using g and p or something < 1354219724 990065 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :muriel is tc isn't it? < 1354219736 383705 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much overhead in befunge's case though < 1354219742 376861 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider that it takes at least one step to write one cell < 1354219745 662785 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen a Befunge-93 program which replicated itself six times < 1354219753 789967 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it did have intern loops to do that replication < 1354219758 196891 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can manage a 1:1 ratio per tick at most < 1354219760 89293 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354219767 366593 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ok that's a pretty good argument < 1354219775 991631 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, as that's the ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM < 1354219791 524556 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're going to be destroying instructions faster than you can generate them < 1354219814 150733 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon there'll be a negative amount of instructions! < 1354219844 21764 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1354219858 887123 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so I've got to think about another way to limit flow control < 1354219884 776802 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would make self-modification necessary and not just as data storage < 1354219914 968781 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I actually wonder how Befunge can ever be tc < 1354219924 960107 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the size of integers on the stack is bounded < 1354219945 536931 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then p and g can only access cells which are in the boundaries < 1354219958 228521 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you take the 80*25 limitation out < 1354219970 265790 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I guess I should take a better look at funge-98 < 1354219986 714061 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but not before sheppard saves the galaxy once or twice) < 1354220003 743983 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it has control flow other than p and g? < 1354220013 418026 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's shepard, and are you playing mass effect? < 1354220018 320747 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has it < 1354220020 507090 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1354220020 641827 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't play mass effect, only pain and misery awaits < 1354220031 161347 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was talking about stargate < 1354220039 23229 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1354220046 736981 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :popular name for galaxy savers < 1354220100 964143 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :last sg-1 episode they flied to atlantis, blew up a wraith ship, accidentally destroying an invincible ori ship from the other galaxy in the process < 1354220132 368108 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1354220143 778341 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's gotta be a supervillain team-down or something < 1354220169 756591 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then last atlantis episode there were REPLICATORS < 1354220179 28738 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so great my lines have started to sync! < 1354220189 123469 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not... < 1354220205 87387 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1354221176 191764 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354221779 932117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1354222203 137454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1354222428 470844 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1354222456 442194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just realized a simple solution for broken html in websites
< 1354222478 902100 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :care about sharing it with us? < 1354222484 976708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all we have to do is convince google to, like, halve their page rank. < 1354222508 237822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*poof* nearly all get corrected. < 1354222523 713515 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does google pass html validator? < 1354222530 215420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no f idea < 1354222572 260243 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hahaha < 1354222574 966169 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brilliant. < 1354222593 939434 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: nope. < 1354223349 353721 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354223457 984296 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've invoked the wrath of the mathematicians with the following esoteric statement: "let's get rid of zero!" < 1354223473 144304 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :see: http://scientopia.org/blogs/goodmath/2012/11/27/lets-get-rid-of-zero/ < 1354223489 880021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: that's yours? < 1354223493 892142 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354223494 365611 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1354223494 805985 NAMES :#esoteric < 1354223495 955426 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i remember you < 1354223498 821690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric rapido :rapido < 1354223506 837485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1354223506 860538 NAMES :#esoteric < 1354223511 30167 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION applauds
< 1354223632 277667 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«An Account is balanced when Debit and Credit are equal. Such a balanced Account can be interpreted as (being in the equivalence class of) a zero but we won’t.» beautiful < 1354223832 44982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the history here < 1354223881 723447 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idiot invents new number system, acts like he's fixed some glaring flaw in arithmetic < 1354223895 490030 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like brainfuck derivatives in many ways < 1354223951 243603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean what did rapido do here before < 1354223967 689857 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if being a crackpot were a crime in #esoteric then surely the channel would be empty < 1354223976 455170 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog rapido < 1354224010 61571 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-04-20.txt:21:50:49: and you define a function that takes x^x - it is still finite - but slow < 1354224043 500853 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1354224155 48052 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog rapido < 1354224164 409668 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.20529 < 1354224201 188296 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1354224201 262398 NAMES :#esoteric < 1354224210 461954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1354224210 484890 NAMES :#esoteric < 1354224236 379275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i demand oerjan remains op < 1354224241 176172 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :« pikhq: i don't see it as a problem - i see it as a opportunity» i like this guy a lot < 1354224433 539417 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodness, that guy was fun. Terrible, but fun. < 1354224451 864312 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1354224459 370736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1354224470 877083 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :other topic < 1354224563 398072 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.nl... isn't that swedish < 1354224572 821029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...no. < 1354224583 324326 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone ever considered the factoradic number system? < 1354224590 553417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have 0 < 1354224623 75457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: dutch < 1354224631 767078 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1354224641 84740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: depends what you mean by factoradic < 1354224641 397843 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, .nu is swedish? < 1354224661 225483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's a swedish word. the domain is nauru in the pacific, iirc < 1354224731 807330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh niue actually < 1354224732 668648 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a Dutch finitist: all this started with Brouwer of course < 1354224769 336023 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course lazy evaluation if not very finitist < 1354224801 280099 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/if/is/ < 1354224881 889393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well lazy evaluation is approximately codata, codata is constructive, does that mean it's also finitist? < 1354224908 965333 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, but what about lazy infinite lists? < 1354224931 859421 :jfischoff!~jfischoff@c-67-169-45-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354224943 387588 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still struggling with the evaluation model < 1354224944 847728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: that's codata. you can ask to get any finite index, and that can be finite to compute. < 1354224982 597329 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i read about that - i don't really grasp it < 1354225000 791774 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus it's bullshit, amirite? < 1354225018 604411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :codata means you can always go one level deeper in finite time, or approximately so. < 1354225025 116624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well if you are finitist enough then the set of indices is finite. < 1354225034 815051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1354225052 25820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that wasn't a joke... < 1354225058 536251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1354225060 730491 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think codata are actually streams < 1354225062 536370 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :see: http://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/ralf.hinze/publications/CEFP09.pdf < 1354225074 49684 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a correct assumption? < 1354225075 709277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like streams are a type of codata... < 1354225184 428042 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "thus it's bullshit, amirite?" - no, i didn't give it the thought that it needs < 1354225229 237430 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm all for stream algebras: how do they match with codata? < 1354225315 737277 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1354225322 702389 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are codata more general than streams? < 1354225326 26413 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope he finds it < 1354225349 635098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an infinite binary tree is also codata, for example < 1354225388 880520 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354225554 651994 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a stream of ever growing binary trees? < 1354225612 742969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you could encode it that way. < 1354225634 99826 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1354225649 41361 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354225710 323858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably always a way to encode things as a stream if you make the encoding convoluted enough. < 1354225759 463674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :big ass power outage in my neighborhood < 1354225768 846296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the power went out at work and everyone was like "... guess i'll go home now" < 1354225813 409903 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone willing to give me an esoteric idea on a number system that really rocks? < 1354225816 6156 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lights are going out all over new lancaster < 1354225838 968945 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc may not see them lit in our time < 1354225840 192799 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: like using pi or e as the base? < 1354225876 420185 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that yes! < 1354225892 60610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that except not boring < 1354225906 667809 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :factorial numbers have a mixed base < 1354225917 678321 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still boring < 1354225934 138129 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1354225938 424375 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :so numbers are boring? < 1354225944 376565 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1354225963 380406 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354225987 918378 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Base Ulysses S Grant < 1354226002 50138 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :base goedel < 1354226051 145687 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, getting more interesting < 1354226071 557556 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quater-imaginary's pretty neat, though probably old hat in the doubtless thriving Weird Number Representations community < 1354226108 191875 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :base e^ipi < 1354226125 898148 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, been done < 1354226141 495864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp (0 :+ pi) < 1354226143 211755 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (-1.0) :+ 1.2246467991473532e-16 < 1354226152 28184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so. < 1354226171 498275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't have needed to calculate it, in fact. < 1354226187 842472 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :octonions with an quartenion base and beyond! < 1354226237 89569 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sedenions are the future < 1354226238 82545 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'll drop the exclamation marks, they look silly) < 1354226301 426194 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer the 32ions because they are totally algebraically uninteresting < 1354226329 491567 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, they look rather not working < 1354226345 312427 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they aren't power associative, so i don't think using them as radices would work well (ha) < 1354226365 339066 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's a good one! < 1354226379 262538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they form a non-associative semicategory < 1354226381 356311 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, exclamation mark - sorry < 1354226411 790896 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a good one < 1354226424 23031 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :"but they aren't power associative, so i don't think using them as radices would work well (ha)" < 1354226432 953158 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1354226522 781950 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, wait < 1354226523 649312 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1354226530 362790 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't even form a category < 1354226531 509214 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1354226607 424751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :challenge: come up with a structure that doesn't form a category (VERY HARD) < 1354226625 685040 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Stonehenge? < 1354226626 968286 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :your brain? < 1354226639 667313 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido, dude what do you think dendrites are < 1354226665 867879 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the arrows of the category of dendrites < 1354226684 586035 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thoughts about arrows < 1354226735 830160 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow whoops i was almost taking this seriously for a second. < 1354226764 470124 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :About 80% of what I say is intended as a joke < 1354226770 81456 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including that, and this. < 1354226792 556145 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh. < 1354226872 757399 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke language that takes itself seriously for 80% < 1354227246 343479 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi elliott < 1354227252 234530 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it later tonight yet < 1354227408 91035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite < 1354227409 966043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but approaching it < 1354227527 4520 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354227886 731960 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354227912 257397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1354227952 981559 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1354228099 410483 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1354228336 342698 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know what I "love"? < 1354228340 984549 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When umount blocks for no reason. < 1354228364 581485 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, tell elliott to start the succession game < 1354228378 960215 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, there are certain parameters to it that may help you < 1354228386 936601 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, also I presume you checked lsof? < 1354228401 503389 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or fuser, whichever you prefer) < 1354228405 304465 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1354228424 840210 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have you still not started the succession game.... < 1354228425 584121 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, try umount -r ? < 1354228460 772168 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or umount -f if it is a network filesystem < 1354228481 394810 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, also umount -l might work for you < 1354228494 470043 :atriq!~nathan@host-2-97-148-182.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1354228499 373930 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, you could join in! < 1354228511 373032 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before you say you have no idea how to play df: neither does elliott! < 1354228528 702579 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott seems to have more of an idea than i do!! < 1354228555 969471 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but elliott is also a total idiot! < 1354228654 52187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already asked monqy to join < 1354228655 243495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he didn't < 1354228708 817163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: watch rw play muie < 1354228732 14636 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how fast does it grind to a halt < 1354228763 206361 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in memory leakage wise < 1354228869 825324 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is muie? < 1354228929 569580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: mummy ice elementalist < 1354228937 50240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it has limited memory use so it just GC-pauses < 1354228938 761520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and gets slower < 1354228945 27705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok watch < 1354229025 709629 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :expert musu play here < 1354229065 137063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: have you guessed the AI rule < 1354229067 838505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: it's simpler than it looks < 1354229082 699424 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sort of hard with how often it pauses < 1354229111 858771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i spoil it < 1354229410 910981 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1354229616 423151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily chickens out again < 1354229977 161214 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1354230213 302729 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1354230333 431403 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1354230670 181525 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott in an hour it will be tomorrow morning < 1354230683 435166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIES < 1354230695 563496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about 23 hours. < 1354230703 827528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, 24. < 1354230720 243961 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's norwegian tomorrow morning < 1354230730 493765 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :time relatively flies when you're having fun < 1354230759 711732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that's what night means < 1354230801 941415 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you bastard i have to be up for 9 tomorrow < 1354230805 213273 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1354230815 690733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's your problem < 1354230822 937195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: btw i'm thinking of banning dfhack use :,) < 1354230831 572602 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f7ce.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1354230840 409768 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well then i shall make sure not to use it < 1354230855 412497 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i disable the command line or something < 1354230872 906675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what if i force you to termcast the terminal running dfhcak < 1354230874 317764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dfhack < 1354230878 368485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and monitor you < 1354230882 790800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you type in any commands < 1354230885 802269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i make a new brainfuck derivative < 1354230890 197889 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about digv! < 1354230906 786121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :di(cheat)g(ing)v < 1354230979 998017 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about < 1354230982 112118 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :catsplosion < 1354230997 946836 :rapido!~rapido@37-251-35-26.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl QUIT :Quit: rapido < 1354231020 774982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PH < 1354231023 784988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why you cannot be trusted < 1354231396 711664 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im trustworthy! < 1354232089 459007 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1354232785 842291 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1354233506 547654 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In Mascarpone, an interpreter is a map that takes symbols to operations, and an operation is a sequence of symbols that is given meaning by some interpreter. < 1354233506 786907 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, this is a circular definition, but that doesn't seem unreasonable" < 1354233517 729494 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well Ocaml doesn't seem to agree < 1354233577 623819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :circular type? just add a datatype definition for symbol i assume...