< 1353802536 955819 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1353802808 220833 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhhshit < 1353802824 599815 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mayor has gone berserk, and she's friends with half the fortress. < 1353802910 457965 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great, we've now got even more miserable dorfs than just after the 3 murders. < 1353803033 517969 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling the entire fortress is hanging by a thread. < 1353803132 745554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should find that damocles dorf and ask him < 1353803162 519450 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A butcher went berserk; I think this is it. < 1353803399 364314 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, see, that is what happens when you put the dwarf named after me in peril < 1353803436 545951 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your life is worth nothing next to a great strand extractor! < 1353803511 969732 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm when were vampires added? < 1353803524 209611 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-146-163-47.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :May, I think < 1353803525 853223 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember seeing them, and I haven't played for several months by now < 1353803530 663554 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains it < 1353803668 968641 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq, so how do they work when it comes to strand extractors? < 1353803692 51201 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-146-163-47.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never stuck with a fortress long enough to encounter one < 1353803770 533182 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is horrible < 1353803906 352054 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, if I can't stem this tantrum spiral, I can at least make sure I have enough coffins to bury everyone in the fort! < 1353804185 350756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need you to bury everyone in the fort? < 1353804258 394010 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if so, are you sure you require coffins to do so? < 1353804367 230412 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if they all die, yes < 1353804381 622996 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to prevent miasma and unhappy thoughts from friends and relatives < 1353804391 86358 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although by this point i'm not sure the latter will help at all < 1353804411 595860 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh: the number of miserable dorfs has fallen somewhat! < 1353804458 802020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fallen off this mortal coil < 1353804510 745381 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit < 1353804517 111474 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone destroyed the bridge to the farms < 1353804521 599260 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing i caught that < 1353804708 697830 :augur_!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353804727 146241 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353804895 36881 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Gateship. It's a ship. It goes through the gate! < 1353805048 149242 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1353805176 876925 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1353805185 377511 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1353805292 528610 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-146-163-47.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1353805308 465028 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1353805319 648925 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353805371 447480 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the good news is that the military can keep the place defended until the food runs out, which given current trends I would extrapolate to be until... forever. < 1353805449 706334 :augur_!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353805461 460634 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353805994 684851 :augur_!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1353806276 179573 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy has ded :( < 1353806283 877381 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1353806374 472115 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353806570 146911 :augur_!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353806722 156768 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1353807926 184584 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Population's now down to 50. < 1353807931 417138 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of that is insane, I suspect. < 1353808072 842332 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1353808224 653714 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is *still* sane and valiantly tending to the wounded, despite having been miserable for most of this mess. < 1353808342 559983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is sane? < 1353808609 213107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies and slander! < 1353809597 943949 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help but laugh. < 1353809608 731809 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The vampire strand extractor who started all this just died... < 1353809619 809900 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When a rock was accidentally dropped on her head. < 1353809844 932184 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, am I alive? < 1353809851 808171 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1353810312 443204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fileserver is being described as "99.91% up" < 1353810331 969296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :much improved from before anyway < 1353810366 206599 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only lesson I can really take away from this experience is "don't fuck around with vampires". < 1353810397 307377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :filserver is 0.09% down. netcraft confirms it < 1353810412 701238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that's what took down the fileserver too < 1353810426 126063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if by "vampires" you mean "poorly designed SATA hot-swap power electronics" < 1353810427 671512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote I think the only lesson I can really take away from this experience is "don't fuck around with vampires". < 1353810432 540989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1353810435 552161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I think the only lesson I can really take away from this experience is "don't fuck around with vampires". < 1353810441 234276 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1353810461 915847 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :855) I think the only lesson I can really take away from this experience is "don't fuck around with vampires". < 1353810594 983451 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh < 1353810609 418952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PROBLEM? < 1353810614 551970 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a segfault < 1353810695 809406 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1353810699 955987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reset everything < 1353810702 748278 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :waaaaaaaay back < 1353810784 621175 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I suppose I know not to fuck around with the vampire this time. < 1353812788 798110 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1353812982 444639 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1353813038 130129 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1353813247 781094 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353813287 616103 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1353813291 576339 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :no elliott < 1353814750 262182 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made "ares, aloop phasorloop xcps, [iphs], [iamp], [iloopstart], [iloopend]", where ares is a saw wave and aloop is 1 initially and becomes 0 after it loops once. < 1353814903 6291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be used to index a table for looped sample playback, if you need something more complicated than loscil and so on. < 1353815068 410595 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is similar to lphasor but there are some differences, such as the aloop output. < 1353815185 155319 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1353815313 709910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1353815502 174387 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1353817035 601906 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1353817088 431899 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1353817223 573808 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1353820171 312731 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: help < 1353820172 514043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : : "≢" U2262 # _ ≠ NOT IDENTICAL TO < 1353820180 377295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I type ≠? < 1353820436 148161 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compose / = < 1353820467 242947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: That's not what I mean. < 1353820471 720957 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Course, doesn't help with ≢ < 1353820474 609561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I type ≢? < 1353820482 177096 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea. < 1353820516 336363 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :₌ < 1353820758 966122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :… < 1353821482 309307 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :… 2u2 < 1353823304 738773 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is Japanese time zone? < 1353823343 719840 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+9, I think? < 1353823473 225722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, thanks < 1353823548 743049 :tswett_!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1353823825 902056 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823826 48891 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823826 194364 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823826 387719 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823826 600316 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823826 746157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823827 973400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823828 119116 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823828 119345 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823828 119425 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823828 119584 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823828 119660 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823828 119738 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.180.43.127 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823828 119816 :lightquake!lightquake@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe93:ec71 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823828 120042 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823828 120118 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823828 265830 :TeruFSX!~quassel@65-128-149-29.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823829 250806 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823829 462488 :Gregor!codu@codu.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823829 462565 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823829 462641 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823829 462716 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823829 808051 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@dsl-olubrasgw2-fe6bf800-88.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823831 113742 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353823891 281761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :splat < 1353823901 932359 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824171 233351 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824219 189222 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824368 865486 :wolfe.freenode.net MODE #esoteric :+t > 1353824368 888397 NAMES :#esoteric < 1353824369 10934 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. 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PART :#esoteric < 1353824382 321264 :lightquake!lightquake@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe93:ec71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824382 466742 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824391 578847 :hagb4rd!~perdito@77.180.43.127 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824397 206065 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824404 434860 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1353824404 580298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824404 725745 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1353824420 190827 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1353824433 223017 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824503 709990 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824503 855428 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824503 855566 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824503 855646 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824503 855731 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824508 762869 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824508 908281 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824521 38073 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824521 183688 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824521 183834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1353824686 372229 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1353824747 974846 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353825509 580112 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora potato < 1353825516 402920 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1353825787 553767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :potato < 1353825803 709833 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last page of the update is wonderful < 1353826378 695820 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the HELL? I'm ssh'd into my old phone, hacking Debian onto it, and it just rebooted, judging by the screen… except that I'm still ssh'd into it. And it's still… doing stuff. Over ssh. < 1353826426 205000 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to one random person on #clojure, I am able to "think really hard" < 1353826441 181439 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And am thus being solicited by this random person for thoughts on a proposal on a mailing list < 1353826683 596064 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1353826703 319469 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :potato? < 1353826791 468096 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has been used to mean "UPDATE!" in pound-MSPA < 1353826839 71844 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1353826927 189682 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1353827008 320749 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I especially like that you get volume control back after the bar is removed < 1353829187 191712 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1353829263 157371 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353829398 218255 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1353829430 347731 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1353830031 527397 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1353830391 327597 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353830476 962114 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1353830690 656837 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353831254 419948 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1353833330 66347 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353834658 72738 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Gateship. It's a ship. It goes through the gate! < 1353835306 164769 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1353836040 626724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg http://ehird.blogspot.com/ < 1353836108 64925 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott 01:34:00 zomg http://ehird.blogspot.com/ < 1353836108 376585 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1353836123 418626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott is that the real ehird < 1353836123 711033 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1353836223 869446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: why did you ask elliott that < 1353836247 984816 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"he deserves to know" < 1353836259 594752 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010 is a scary place < 1353836269 126053 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially in january 05, yikes < 1353836292 912046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "i was hoping to keep it between you and me" < 1353836302 722630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and whoever is in the channel or reads the logs" < 1353836344 433752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You should learn lens! < 1353836350 793985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then help me figure out my lens problems. < 1353836466 273523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :logs/freenode/#esoteric/2010-01.log:[2010-01-06 00:31:45] everyone should preemptively add http://ehird.blogspot.com/ to their feed readers because i am awesome < 1353836496 382177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott 01:41 logs/freenode/#esoteric/2010-01.log:[2010-01-06 00:31:45] everyone should preemptively add http://ehird.blogspot.com/ to their feed readers because i am awesome < 1353836496 670994 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1353836510 577372 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow you beat me to it ! < 1353836605 451453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sorry" < 1353836608 312358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unask < 1353836608 632779 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `tell' failed with: Prelude.head: empty list < 1353836663 561410 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::0 < 1353836723 789043 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ielliott's blog seems a bit singleton. < 1353836730 368200 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*elliott's < 1353836794 48173 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :indexed elliott < 1353837546 142494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Did you learn lens yet? < 1353837567 330164 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353837890 583529 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You got torn about by four horses, which did rather discourage people" < 1353838268 450075 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no < 1353842151 141035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no < 1353842167 75294 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I really haven't! < 1353842181 409029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't what? < 1353842187 250889 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ( < 1353842195 142718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1353842199 853040 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What haven't you done! < 1353842231 834448 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :: | < 1353842324 393802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :· ⎜ < 1353842327 487534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : — ⎜ < 1353842330 523527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :· ⎜ < 1353842339 72435 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes thats me. < 1353842348 281348 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"picture perfect" < 1353842349 55054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: when did you grow a nose < 1353842526 96655 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric : | | < 1353842529 705468 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :_____ < 1353842547 482555 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :————— < 1353842548 188065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :————— < 1353842548 517905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :————— < 1353842549 35277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :————— < 1353842550 363813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :————— < 1353842567 990141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████ < 1353842574 349525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████ < 1353842580 59634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████ < 1353842586 134152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████ < 1353842592 30154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████ < 1353842598 25140 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hdlp < 1353842994 347211 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353844052 103820 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::─┐ < 1353844053 430408 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :)─┘ < 1353844118 225260 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1353844174 483621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Are there any parts of lens left for you to figure out yet? < 1353844206 755295 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what is this lens thing < 1353844228 158308 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, a library for Haskell obfuscation < 1353844260 25287 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1353844261 6200 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1353844316 722050 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :type Lens s t a b = Functor f => (a -> f b) -> s -> f t < 1353844335 933425 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the Functor is Identity, you've got a setter < 1353844349 907531 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the Functor is Const r, you've got a Getter < 1353844368 791400 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I’m not sure. I haven’t looked through all of it yet. < 1353844376 970209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: What if it's a Context a b t? < 1353844389 23859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"excuse me" < 1353844391 526816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: What if it's a Context a b? < 1353844395 422292 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you have a lens, I believe < 1353844413 330687 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're the second biggest contributor to this library, you should know < 1353844431 334170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am? < 1353844442 352657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's just nonsense commits. < 1353844499 86059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor---->Apply < 1353844499 231915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :| | < 1353844499 232092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v v < 1353844499 232207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pointed---->Applicative < 1353844511 469677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Please fix the hierarchy to look like that. :-( < 1353844560 436742 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Ok, fixed. I also added type families while i was at it. < 1353844574 720601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :To whom? < 1353844583 832866 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :to ur mom < 1353844590 763902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, where do type families belong? < 1353844697 432798 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: For constraints, so you can make Set a functor for instance. < 1353844743 496735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ew :'(" < 1353844748 744600 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides Set will never be Applicative. < 1353844851 358098 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :class Functor f => Pointed f where pure :: a -> f a; unit :: f (); pure a = a <$ unit; unit = pure () < 1353844944 402803 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :class Functor f => Apply f where (<*>) :: f (a -> b) -> f a -> f b; azip :: f a -> f b -> f (a, b); azip as bs = (,) <$> as <*> bs; fs <*> as = uncurry id <$> azip fs bs < 1353844959 310988 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :type Applicative f = (Pointed f, Apply f) < 1353844968 581926 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1353844970 382605 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That’s not zipping. < 1353844985 15092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: No, Applicative has laws. < 1353844992 565643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As edwardk pointed out in the other channel earlier. < 1353845017 100824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also what ion said. < 1353845026 695856 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, is that me making a mistake, or is that me naming things badly? < 1353845046 674884 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zip [0..5] [0..5] < 1353845048 372743 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(0,0),(1,1),(2,2),(3,3),(4,4),(5,5)] < 1353845051 718404 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> liftA2 (,) [0..5] [0..5] < 1353845053 338340 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(0,0),(0,1),(0,2),(0,3),(0,4),(0,5),(1,0),(1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4),(1,5),(2... < 1353845067 115987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> getZipList $ liftA2 (,) (ZipList [0..5]) (ZipList [0..5]) < 1353845068 796208 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(0,0),(1,1),(2,2),(3,3),(4,4),(5,5)] < 1353845127 705618 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could do "class (Pointed f, Apply f) => Applicative f < 1353845159 601827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better. < 1353845209 450620 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :class (Apply f, forall a. Semigroup (f a)) => Alt f < 1353845247 992267 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that work? < 1353845706 497253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really? < 1353848143 807313 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1353849595 186079 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1353850639 467252 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1353850850 904331 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353852125 37781 :atriq!4e940da1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.13.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353852323 136557 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1353853107 973386 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1353853275 276651 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1353853330 274684 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1353853532 499498 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1353853929 938050 :atriq!4e940da1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.13.161 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1353853986 73096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353854202 332716 :atriq!~androirc@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353856185 631060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353856212 599601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353856790 948779 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.139.241 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353857330 581968 :atriq!~androirc@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1353858159 171616 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1353858371 746776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no it's elliott < 1353858396 286171 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo < 1353858396 612289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353858401 58392 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nolliott. < 1353858433 700992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353858500 609575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353858512 872059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1353858515 796568 :jiella!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1353858552 871595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353858634 758744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353858669 102099 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fizzilott < 1353858838 895680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353858992 202699 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh for-- i got another great strand extractor who isn't a vampire < 1353858992 387805 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1353859005 300228 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all this fucking around with doors and levers was pointless < 1353859034 299279 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone here have any experience with seamonkey 1.5 or seamonkey on windows 95 < 1353859140 202987 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this about a dumpster computer < 1353859143 410047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1353859203 740563 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1353859279 52986 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for++ < 1353859302 374026 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma for < 1353859302 681519 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for has a karma of -3 < 1353859307 420078 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes, shachaf!!!!!!!! < 1353859331 607715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1353859333 192817 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened < 1353859337 589288 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353859362 653611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353859368 702927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma milkshakes < 1353859369 5795 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :milkshakes has a karma of -2678 < 1353859373 83243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1353859374 67726 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did this happen < 1353859380 349662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which this < 1353859384 534000 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no. I'm going to fork seamonkey < 1353859385 983935 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :milshakes < 1353859396 904480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353859403 961018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i don't even know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1353859410 733825 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :milkshakes++ < 1353859413 390829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe dracula did it? < 1353859419 292233 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :milkshakes++ < 1353859432 430982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma milkshakes < 1353859432 576538 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :milkshakes has a karma of -2676 < 1353859436 794325 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a long way to go monqy < 1353859437 136527 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: actually depends on whether you count my computer as dumpster conmputer < 1353859446 925472 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you get it from a dumpster < 1353859453 295165 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yes < 1353859459 819438 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's a dumpster computer....................... < 1353859464 79353 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1353859470 508356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumpster computers are computers that compute dumpsters < 1353859470 876704 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 10 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1353859474 394890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1353859476 637419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1353859504 182554 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how does one compute dumpsters? < 1353859509 442558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wait what < 1353859521 886954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I demand @messages in public < 1353859532 867443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i demand no < 1353859541 263958 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there you go < 1353859544 73343 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1353859545 550386 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any new messages. < 1353859556 206906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why cant you be like nortti? < 1353859563 775971 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1353859564 112645 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any new messages. < 1353859568 504510 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this make me Cool < 1353859570 370906 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1353859570 516351 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any new messages. < 1353859574 518248 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1353859576 767686 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you want elliot to be insane? < 1353859578 887856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask monqy oops < 1353859579 240110 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1353859616 287259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey elliott < 1353859622 364135 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1353859622 755888 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1353859623 531120 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages. < 1353859623 869634 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: messages messages? < 1353859626 242177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know I have OVER A THOUSAND stackoverflow points? < 1353859633 193703 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@message < 1353859633 521820 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: messages messages? < 1353859637 129212 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1353859646 414002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask monqy you fool! < 1353859646 738111 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1353859655 499299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1353859656 105328 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "not meant as an insult btw" < 1353859672 147519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "just saying you shouldn't have done that" < 1353859721 149301 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to sleep.
< 1353859791 797161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353859803 110156 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't
< 1353860024 447784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: -t pls < 1353860028 493788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the mode) < 1353860037 120685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolfe.freenode.net set +t for no apparent reason < 1353860144 129958 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fancy that. < 1353860149 732510 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :fizzie > 1353860149 998947 NAMES :#esoteric < 1353860153 700278 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie MODE #esoteric :-t > 1353860153 722897 NAMES :#esoteric < 1353860156 770898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie MODE #esoteric -o :fizzie > 1353860156 792954 NAMES :#esoteric < 1353860191 123208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks fizzie. you're the best < 1353860534 612451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I didn't link you to it. < 1353860557 122631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came across it in an unrelated context and mentioned it in the channel out of surprise. < 1353860563 591332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then monqy sent you a message. < 1353860622 730386 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sleep-typing < 1353860628 854732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. :-( < 1353860644 487782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I was waiting for my laundry to finish. < 1353860650 652231 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not sleeping < 1353860661 862879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to sleep! < 1353860734 416558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well. < 1353860737 371661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'll sleep. < 1353860752 941480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O no! It seems that GEN plugins in Csound cannot take string parameters, since the name of the plugin is already a string parameter. < 1353860774 56097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353860903 19359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did this channel used to have a -t mode lock? CS INFO #esoteric currently reports only +n mode lock < 1353860925 726376 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also did the founder be changed? < 1353861047 896733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353861056 370810 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1353861060 795793 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1353861124 78530 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1353861270 953828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353861294 869757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353861616 520635 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another possible use of zero-length arrays in C would be type idenfication, I think. For example: #define T(x) (sizeof((x).typeid[0])) Would it work, though? < 1353862276 166795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353862517 640679 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.139.241 QUIT :Quit: public class MohammedAli { float like_a_butterfly; string like_a_bee; } < 1353862614 473871 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1353862900 903111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353864054 589414 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1353864450 557501 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353864504 657502 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-13-161.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1353864583 585680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Cambridge Police: Woman summonsed after grabbing EMT’s breasts' < 1353864647 662599 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net NICK :atriq < 1353865331 13538 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1353866640 466680 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353866736 193031 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353867174 930437 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did figure out a way to send string parameters to GEN plugins using GEN01 deferred allocation. It is a bit klugy but it does work. < 1353868075 455145 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:26 [freenode] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Founder : freenode-staff < 1353868079 642700 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think that's new. < 1353868082 521784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least new-ish. < 1353868158 999903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353868178 851672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353868876 270757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1353868902 57372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1353868904 110359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was the mode lock set before? I don't know, maybe I don't remember. < 1353869142 315979 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : 20:26 [freenode] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Founder : freenode-staff <-- ouch < 1353869154 287770 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the account of the original owner expired < 1353869272 717237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like it matters < 1353869349 562735 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully not < 1353869630 185537 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a +nc-mst mode lock before; there have also been mode locks +sc, +n-s, -nt, +ntc-slk and +n. < 1353869651 511574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1353869653 847827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you remove +n too < 1353869656 118074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1353869789 914226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2012-06-12 15:47:08] I don't set modes. Anyway, -n is ANARCHY and CHAOS and HINGE. < 1353869808 895743 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was -n few moments there in June, and I think that was enough. < 1353869818 215613 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was after all exactly those things. < 1353869835 409923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: OK but you set modes today. < 1353869861 292249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or DID I? < 1353869882 513484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: also codu doesn't record you as saying that???? < 1353869886 344736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that day or the two surrounding days < 1353870009 463131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353870095 723866 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1353870216 353922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/2012-06-12.txt seems to have an inexplicable gap from 07:19:17 to 14:56:03 -- I have 343 lines of stuffs in-between those. < 1353870259 639093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2012-06-12 15:33:22] Gregor: Yo, fix glogbot already. < 1353870263 170520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :History; it's so malleable. < 1353870332 608655 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Send me those lines and I can integrate them. Richards@codu.org . < 1353870349 521619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're in a stupid format. Does that matter? < 1353870357 726844 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends how stupid, I suppose :) < 1353870361 390692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing I've been pasting has been a fake. < 1353870368 22745 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always have to change the format, since glogbot logs in raw IRC. < 1353870375 848492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In reality it looks like 12-06-2012 15:33:22 < elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott: Gregor: Yo, fix glogbot already. < 1353870376 697730 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor doesnt incorporate things that require extra effort < 1353870389 283165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353870394 867727 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, the new bfjoust scoring system < 1353870414 787783 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Logs are more important than BFJoust ;) < 1353870426 385106 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they? < 1353870437 458707 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :even logs from june? < 1353870444 577622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I bet -n broke glogbot. < 1353870447 784148 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eeeeeevery log is saaaaaaaacred < 1353870452 263076 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eeeeeevery log is goooooooooood < 1353870452 631774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Can glogbot handle people talking who aren't in the channel? < 1353870464 86542 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll lay a log on your mom < 1353870478 349014 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Sure, it doesn't really care who's in the channel except to know how to report QUIT. < 1353870622 786095 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I have tried it, if you sent message directly to glogbot it will still be logged (except password command). < 1353870711 923990 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you privmsg your password to glogbot, it will show up as "hunter2". < 1353870715 994255 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or so I heard. < 1353870777 548655 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah its true, i tested it < 1353870782 155602 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well if that is your password it will. I mean specifically password command not just a command which contains your password. I think. < 1353870785 7463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Is it? < 1353870828 624868 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh u < 1353871038 836054 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My logs are also raw IRC, although still different from glogbot; I use SIRCL although it should be easy to convert between if you don't need microseconds. < 1353871363 521467 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some log formats don't log hostnames, don't log seconds, etc, if you need to convert a format without hostnames into one that has, I suggest using "notavailable.pseudo", and if one without seconds/microseconds to one that has, to use zero. < 1353871401 468371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353871455 190223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353871876 293950 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, did you start the fortress yet! < 1353871949 797729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1353871951 132608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will soon < 1353872099 198657 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Close enough? < 1353872302 367997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353872329 547533 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353872353 798445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353872499 6119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Client Quit < 1353872513 871190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353872658 724448 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I'm having a positive influence on the community < 1353872671 538767 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Start saying the opposite of what you would otherwise say. < 1353872676 647288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should balance things out. < 1353872684 620231 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a brilliant idea < 1353872689 445382 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not ridiculous at all < 1353872701 584265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you started already. Good. < 1353872701 729656 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll not do it. < 1353872948 661905 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1353873692 769679 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1353874195 346966 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1353874224 430083 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Stack :: (* -> * -> *) where EmptyStack :: Stack Zero a; PushStack :: a -> Stack n a -> Stack (Succ n) a < 1353874237 738250 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to mess with GADTs more < 1353874278 280347 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this :: operator? < 1353874283 766310 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not an operator < 1353874290 825789 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is messy experimental Haskell stuff < 1353874291 583110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1353874291 728850 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in ocaml it means cons (as in head :: tail) < 1353874299 751530 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Haskell, that would be : < 1353874314 666451 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::: means "Had type of" or, as here, "Has kind of" < 1353874321 38838 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1353874326 333718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah those are switched :) < 1353874352 52105 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you can use : to force a type in ocaml < 1353874358 782732 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did the creators of ML and Haskell get together and say "How awkward can we make it for people to switch between the two?" < 1353874380 369792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: i assume haskell borrowed it from miranda < 1353874389 54490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ML was definitely oldest < 1353874392 329271 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ocaml is french, so it's ok to be reversed < 1353874407 232567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: i assume it's the same in standard ml as in ocaml < 1353874418 931336 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I certainly hope so < 1353874428 868951 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's beyong my time < 1353874436 377763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need a type "Succ" if the type "Maybe" would work? < 1353874468 483814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i think you can use Maybe instead of Succ for type-level calculations, yes < 1353874481 291632 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, you could even use [] or IO < 1353874506 158651 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: Yes you could, but if Zero is uninhabited then you have (Maybe (Maybe (Maybe Zero))) with three possible values, and so on. < 1353874512 253156 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ML : and :: are Miranda :: and :, yes < 1353874518 256717 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or StateT [Integer] (WriterT Ordering STM) < 1353874527 818917 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, it's the types that matter, not the values < 1353874553 942323 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is why I would use Maybe here, even if the values are not used. Since, it will be compatible with something which does use values of that type. < 1353874570 839702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the rationale is that cons is more often used than type annotation < 1353874576 940771 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could, if you want, replace Zero with any type of kind * < 1353874591 692337 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't matter if the type has values or not < 1353874595 840112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore in (Stack n a) then you can use the n type as an index to read something inside the stack. < 1353874598 799713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while original ML borrowed the : from mathematical type theory < 1353874646 723888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you miranda had a crazy type notation - type variables were *, **, *** etc. < 1353874675 128718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so haskell improved some of the syntax < 1353874684 97815 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: Yes you could do that too; but at least how I generally do, is define Zero as uninhabited, and use that as the number zero in types as well as using it as an uninhabited type in general. < 1353874709 827888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should have used *, †, ‡, etc. < 1353874727 474748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :miranda was almost certainly pre-unicode < 1353874743 618060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll make my own encoding! with blackjack! and hookers! < 1353874771 268198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :♠♥♦♣ < 1353874772 329989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone made their own esolang with blackjack and hookers yet < 1353874791 131504 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: UTF-HOMESTUCK? < 1353874819 758054 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should use name mangling for codes higher than ASCII, like CWEB and Punycode does. < 1353874875 226099 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, are you on Sgeo__'s list of people to tell when an update happens? < 1353874882 646490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure ghc does in the backend(s) < 1353874914 175581 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they should do that with Haskell, too. Or, if is made Ibtlfmm with a Unicode extension, it makes the name like that, so that the same file can be used with ASCII files. < 1353874917 321361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :z means something else < 1353874953 872802 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But is it possible to do it with source files? < 1353874983 643835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we already have a fine way to represent unicode characters as sequences of bytes < 1353874997 310783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc always assumes utf-8 for source file contents (ignoring comments which are more lenient) < 1353875003 4420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazingly there are people in the world who don't use English as their primary language < 1353875008 438002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and might want to edit documents in their native tongue < 1353875012 96472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :including source code < 1353875031 141520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: And that fine way is surely UTF-1. < 1353875034 605886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that icelandic programming language again < 1353875069 831952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bunch of countries had national localized variants of BASIC < 1353875075 389151 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes I agree you might want to do that, but you can use whatever encoding you want it shouldn't require Unicode specifically. As long as it is ASCII compatible, comments can be in any encoding you want. < 1353875078 731232 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you get "more lenient" than an encoding? Is GHC expected to guess what encodings are used in a comment? < 1353875084 20536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually as part of some government "teach our children to computer good" initiative < 1353875086 526197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fj%C3%B6lnir_(programming_language) < 1353875089 443104 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: yes yes I am < 1353875092 71760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: you can allow invalid UTF-8 sequences in comments < 1353875095 756662 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1353875105 928113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you look for the terminator "-}" as a byte sequence < 1353875107 956267 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is super useful actually < 1353875110 835659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes I think invalid UTF-8 sequences should be allowed in comments. < 1353875131 655199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then you can use UTF-8 or ISO-8859-anything in comments < 1353875152 757802 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't use UTF-16 in comments though < 1353875160 860485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true but why the fuck would you do that < 1353875161 711268 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, well, hmm. < 1353875168 117207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :multibyte CJK encodings is a more realistic concern < 1353875189 257986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree you should be allowed to use anything in comments as long as not conflict with the ASCII codes which terminate the comment. < 1353875190 581577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly } is not in the ISO 646 invariant set, so if I go back in time 40 years and try to program Haskell on a norwegian microcomputer I might have some troubles < 1353875205 443052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i guess ghc decided to do only utf-8 to avoid a mess for transferring files between people with different setups < 1353875206 177808 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have to end your comments with -å < 1353875227 623560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC also allows non-ASCII identifiers though < 1353875229 778401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably ghc did utf-8 only because it is the only reasonable thing to do < 1353875237 615862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for those you need to know both the encoding and the character properties database < 1353875243 611531 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Character encodings come in two sorts: UTF-8, and insane. < 1353875249 270698 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not support insanity. < 1353875255 225096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1353875283 906338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode (I don't mean UTF-8, I mean Unicode in general) is crazy. < 1353875306 709734 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Near as I can tell, essentially all complexity in Unicode is inherent to the domain. < 1353875313 133115 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode is complex because *text* is complex. < 1353875316 416229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode is pretty crazy but the advantages of using this global standard outweigh whatever complexity could be avoided by using your weird thing < 1353875327 615137 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a small handful of things that could be simplified about it. < 1353875346 769678 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But those are things you're probably not even thinking of. < 1353875349 558058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course i am talking to someone who thinks that gopher is the best hypertext protocol and magic the gathering is the best programming language < 1353875356 986623 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care if they don't do anything other than UTF-8 that is OK, as long as it is compatible with ASCII, which UTF-8 is. But they should allow the names to have ASCII equivalents, somewhat like Punycode does it. Or, just use ASCII encoding and ignore Unicode and everything, and do name conversion like CWEB does it. < 1353875390 679431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Sgeo__ the human feed reader < 1353875392 112526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who speak only english tend to have poor perspective on the way text works globally < 1353875401 950161 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353875411 49342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :english is like the simplest case < 1353875411 620328 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Korean could be encoded jamo by jamo instead of jamo by jamo *or* syllable by syllable, for instance) < 1353875436 651270 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ASCII doesn't even *quite* handle English, it just handles a sizeable subset of English. < 1353875440 403142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1353875447 419676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it handles enough that most english speakers don't really care < 1353875450 401338 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, hmm? < 1353875458 733824 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore it work as well with UTF-8 as anything else if you don't care about encoding and just ensure that 8-bits encoding works. < 1353875460 298042 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What of English does ASCII not handle? < 1353875466 963156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: café < 1353875473 972073 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but english might be almost the only language that's true for < 1353875476 86410 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: Well, you see, “quotation” doesn't work in ASCII properly. < 1353875479 533480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coöperate < 1353875480 537208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even among those using the latin alphabet < 1353875482 270478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :— < 1353875485 184078 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :confusion of hyphen and minus < 1353875493 710545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all kinds of typographical stuff that's used in english text < 1353875496 561512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :× (arguable, but) < 1353875516 830424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASCII has $ but not £; English my ass! < 1353875519 661319 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"p�t�" < 1353875527 135207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can code typographical stuff in TeX, even using only ASCII input file. < 1353875533 514042 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1353875546 349891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can you enlighten me, why are you arguing with zzo about encodings < 1353875546 665291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, TeX does support 8-bit input file too, if it would help. < 1353875551 435753 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i dunno < 1353875554 836310 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Or you can do it in a transparent and clean manner by encoding things properly. < 1353875557 423749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :been wondering that for a few minutes < 1353875572 379643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm not so much arguing with zzo38 as vigorously agreeing with everyone else < 1353875579 852657 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: By the way, have fun using ASCII input for Japanese. < 1353875579 998243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that zzo38 is a harmless and entertaining crackpot < 1353875582 502431 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anywho. < 1353875605 693538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it bugs me how much that attitude pervades programming communities < 1353875638 792112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just do what CWEB does with 8-bit characters. < 1353875641 872597 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is zzo38 even arguing for < 1353875646 444822 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode being stupid? < 1353875662 190445 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, to exercise his keyboard, maybe < 1353875673 403856 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :har har < 1353875683 164747 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Near as I can tell, he thinks that "a char is a character" is holy doctrine. < 1353875726 153058 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets make char 32bit. problem solved < 1353875741 739505 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A codepoint is not a character. < 1353875749 10217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode is being stupid. In applications where you need universal character sets, it would have been better to design to change code points so that you don't need a lot of tables to know how to decode everything and fallback and so on. < 1353875802 516106 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Your proposal requires *more* tables. < 1353875814 209977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that would be simpler tech but it would not accurately represent the complexities of how text is used world wide < 1353875819 620363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :including the need to accommodate legacy encodings < 1353875821 45451 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, afaict oerjan's dorf is miserable solely because someone else has a slightly better bedroom < 1353875841 534857 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode would be a lot simpler if it didn't have to interconvert with legacy encodings, and there would be some value in that < 1353875850 3082 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would hinder adoption < 1353875931 363486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: darn that dorf really _is_ me, isn't he. < 1353875943 153393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :frankly i'm sick of programmers who have maximal privilege wrt character encodings complaining about the extra work necessary to make computers accessible to others < 1353876038 509961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yo how do you do the dfhack thing < 1353876040 845318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the thing < 1353876041 833215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the thing < 1353876053 728670 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1353876054 947674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hey as long as your software works for rich, able bodied English speakers living in San Francisco, that's good enough to make loads of cash < 1353876059 618118 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean the labour manager? < 1353876062 946212 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ul < 1353876145 401688 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I make open source software so if someone wants something which I don't want, they can add it, anyways. < 1353876191 112827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:28:23: Did this channel used to have a -t mode lock? CS INFO #esoteric currently reports only +n mode lock < 1353876194 500102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:28:45: Also did the founder be changed? < 1353876231 557571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) fizzie had just changed it back (2) i think andreou was finally deregistered in freenode's last database cleanup < 1353876246 222561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but you can design it in such a way that others can add these features later < 1353876249 557798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the default policy is to transfer to freenode staff. < 1353876259 213583 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can design it in a way that is willfully incompatible with the global standard < 1353876262 218450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for no reason < 1353876312 623263 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I design in whatever way I think is best. Usually that means that any ASCII-compatible encoding (such as UTF-8, CP437, etc) is allowed in comments. < 1353876350 839820 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And possibly in text too, it just won't decode it unless you tell it explicitly what it is. < 1353876370 480961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (3) please set -n < 1353876601 793370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((SPAM )S:^):^ < 1353876612 429592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no! < 1353876617 693984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: FUNGOT DEFICIENCY! < 1353876630 423514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (3) please set -n < 1353876634 182610 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353876648 650016 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1353876652 147601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((SPAM )S:^):^ < 1353876652 773664 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM ...too much output! < 1353876656 497230 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1353876668 310498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: see my assistant fungot's counterargument < 1353876669 210478 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: someone once said it seems to come up with for ( f 2 1) 2 < 1353876691 579883 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1353876705 518010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: spammers don't actually use that, come on < 1353876750 377912 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The very last time I -n'd it was immediately all "HOKUM PRO HOKUM FREE SNAKES & A BARREL COME TO GOOGLE.EXE" from random-looking nicknames. < 1353876778 178530 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh also < 1353876782 661192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: right but i seem to recall that was actually me < 1353876792 949650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I spam even with +n < 1353876793 377321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1353876799 265295 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just found out, dfhack also actually fixes two major bugs if you use the right commands < 1353876815 334567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the bugs < 1353876818 589961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw did that underwater bug ever get fixed < 1353876828 91807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: we prefer to have spammers where we can at least potentially ban them. hth. < 1353876834 165380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: +b works with -n... < 1353876839 325454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff can't send to the channel if it's banned < 1353876843 977787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it does? < 1353876851 710898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well cf. the fact that you can't send messages while banned but in a channel < 1353876857 87682 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, apparently there's a which in Hexham who has a shop opposite Gaia < 1353876858 142470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not afaik, but the actual nature of it was unclear < 1353876861 67932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't actually tested it but you'd have to specifically code it to be really stupid for it not to work < 1353876876 252301 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the bugs are that humans and elves are meant to send diplomats < 1353876892 43407 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, which is on Market Street, I think < 1353876898 779401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: a which < 1353876906 991505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh, well, no risk of diplomats where we're going < 1353876910 448441 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant "witch" < 1353876914 573595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i dunno, it would be more efficient not to have to check a nick against the ban list on every message < 1353876915 366042 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fuck what are you doing < 1353876924 582098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's all under control < 1353876924 963013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: I liked it more when you were talking about a which. < 1353876937 920909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with regexps, that is < 1353876954 309503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ...but you already have to do that (and bans aren't regexps) < 1353876962 8924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because people who are banned cannot talk even if they are still in the channel < 1353876982 213791 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need a which in order to become a dak. < 1353876982 989165 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1353877012 301884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn dak < 1353877012 849564 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "dak" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1353877013 170221 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dak < 1353877013 317051 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: East Indian tree bearing a profusion of intense vermilion < 1353877013 317240 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : velvet-textured blooms and yielding a yellow dye [syn: < 1353877013 317352 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : {dhak}, {dak}, {palas}, {Butea frondosa}, {Butea < 1353877014 852787 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : monosperma}] < 1353877030 478272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anyway my point is -n pls < 1353877035 255838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hokum I promise < 1353877048 414839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but if it doesn't include people sending from outside the channel you only need to check the regexps when someone joins or the ban list is changed < 1353877071 504839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can set a simple flag to check on each message < 1353877076 492833 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the source codes for this IRC server available, if so can you check? < 1353877076 885304 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1353877085 758990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok how about we test it < 1353877091 422147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you set -n and kickban me < 1353877093 397793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I try to send messages < 1353877118 281220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is like science but with more pain < 1353877174 419601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham's coven consists of a which, a whose and a wherefore < 1353877192 832036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please it's been ages since I was kicked < 1353877195 631272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to keep up my reputation < 1353877211 837351 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1353877211 953242 NAMES :#esoteric < 1353877236 23913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is MLOCK < 1353877246 977085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mode mlock < 1353877249 684763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to remove +n from it < 1353877254 832237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lock < 1353877255 393227 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably mode lock; you need a CS command to change it < 1353877280 794439 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try CS HELP to see what command you need < 1353877296 414758 :tswett_!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :tswett < 1353877406 57675 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help < 1353877420 819167 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to through money at iTunes, but I don't want to install iTunes < 1353877422 215573 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do < 1353877457 820045 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric :-n > 1353877457 842659 NAMES :#esoteric < 1353877465 561642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*elliott@unaffiliated/elliott > 1353877465 580790 NAMES :#esoteric < 1353877465 707441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric elliott :elliott < 1353877465 894479 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :to throw through thorough money < 1353877482 482634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR SCIENCE < 1353877491 224287 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sexy science < 1353877503 354984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pro hokum < 1353877519 822980 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :w < 1353877520 384936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :redeeming astrophysics < 1353877520 530446 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1353877521 229082 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :w < 1353877536 803506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :porcupine gramophone < 1353877539 167653 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :here yet not here, it's magic < 1353877553 428313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :technicality matriculator < 1353877576 477857 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric :+n > 1353877576 497277 NAMES :#esoteric < 1353877637 185300 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric :-n > 1353877637 218414 NAMES :#esoteric < 1353877668 503661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :antipodal piano < 1353877670 779008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rock lobster < 1353877670 924300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope MLOCK didn't contain anything other than +n originally, my attempt to check just cleared it < 1353877683 404471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :extralegal monogamy < 1353877694 908746 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It did not recently contain anything else. < 1353877700 747610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :synonymic logic < 1353877712 578673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :free pizza < 1353877712 724562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1353877727 374796 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric :+n > 1353877727 403728 NAMES :#esoteric < 1353877730 608184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : There was a +nc-mst mode lock before; there have also been mode locks +sc, +n-s, -nt, +ntc-slk and +n. < 1353877747 796202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not sure what was up with +sc.) < 1353877774 133393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!*elliott@unaffiliated/elliott > 1353877774 156718 NAMES :#esoteric < 1353877784 337525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1353877784 377746 NAMES :#esoteric < 1353877798 393832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353877890 107538 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reason: 400 load at 31.22, try later < 1353877891 821951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe switching to eternal-september wasn't such a great idea after all. < 1353877968 39285 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm? < 1353878016 221989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I switched from my ISP's Usenet server to eternal-september, since the former had been kind of flaky, with messages missing. < 1353878042 950160 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I got the above when trying to read news. < 1353878115 164272 :augur_!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1353878241 118839 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353878287 992274 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1353878306 555773 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1353878638 148126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION laughs at today's darths & droids
< 1353878657 129051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it might require some context) < 1353878812 476731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353879337 200462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reason: 400 load at 36.52, try later < 1353880151 689929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353880175 277879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353880446 830618 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1353880478 391944 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1353881786 370697 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353881837 453024 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, what's the most well-known stack-based turing tarpit < 1353881883 962257 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Underload, or maybe False? < 1353881917 45632 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh underload looks like it's what i need < 1353881940 945566 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What're you doing? < 1353881993 747958 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, "need" is a strong word, but it's just, i was wondering how you would prove a simple stack-based language to be TC < 1353882000 613620 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload is stack)based ? < 1353882005 300923 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't you mention that before! < 1353882011 443675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: that's one interpretation of it < 1353882029 126856 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooookay. < 1353882043 9299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i make that alternative interpretation section i was thinking of... < 1353882064 60612 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidently not < 1353882066 134930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1353882077 73629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um http://esolangs.org/wiki/Underload#Rewriting_semantics < 1353882106 473534 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1353882212 238806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: the minimization section is all about how little of it you need to be TC < 1353882221 913172 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353882360 566550 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-8-102.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1353882380 937724 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: interesting. thanks < 1353882411 248722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: there are easier ways to prove underload TC < 1353882416 57967 :jiella!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1353882422 388959 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1353882426 147979 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't nooodl monqy < 1353882446 588516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. it gets harder with fewer building blocks. and the ! removals are esoteric in themselves. < 1353882454 240491 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.40.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1353882460 64176 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1353882460 409258 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1353882463 270680 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1353882582 734430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unlambda (well, really ski + a little extra) to underload conversion is the first proof, it is relatively simple and uses all commands. < 1353882850 12782 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, did you see the latest update? < 1353882894 226031 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1353882901 819613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353882950 892182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353883046 127931 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1353883084 244937 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to your blog? < 1353883211 524328 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1353883213 771081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ಠ_ಠ < 1353883340 970605 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1353883341 907423 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1353883372 638012 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this one is amazing < 1353883522 384622 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the author hardly remained anonymous though < 1353883523 351431 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Gabrielkfl < 1353883707 800475 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, have a good night < 1353883827 755804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help remember < 1353883828 30768 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote < 1353883828 348110 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember < 1353883828 493569 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quote somebody, a random person, or save a memorable quote < 1353883871 457175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@remember ndmitchell I don't understand the semantics of Hoogle either, and I wrote it! < 1353883871 786140 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will never forget. < 1353883889 325265 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey shouldn't Truth-machine be in http://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Examples? < 1353883900 137796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm quite possibly < 1353883991 16417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps Deadfish too... < 1353884292 505716 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm hey if I add, say, a "duplicate a block then deblock the copy" instruction to Ftack < 1353884309 604448 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't it be more powerful? < 1353884324 222669 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ftack turing-complete already? < 1353884333 786615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1353884383 630419 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :far from it :) < 1353884390 495900 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I guess < 1353884458 745785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at the very least i think you'd get a larger class of infinite loops < 1353884730 139571 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, good nght < 1353884743 754033 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Gateship. It's a ship. It goes through the gate! < 1353884934 796519 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1353885258 723796 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have you seen my brogue streamer screenshot? < 1353885404 7119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1353885493 915175 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's broken, but I'm working on it < 1353885520 439653 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty efficient also, changes to Brogue's platform code were minimal < 1353885699 785340 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can handle full color and animation < 1353885714 537535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I presume it just streams the faketerm < 1353885736 151994 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's no realtime "omniscience" mode & inventory view < 1353885796 299066 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I changed Brogue's platform code to accumulate screen updates in a buffer and send them via TCP socket when game commits the changes to the screen < 1353885814 322694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, letting spectators use omniscience would be bad < 1353885835 545565 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then there is a simple server that broadcasts this stuff to websocket clients < 1353885846 288814 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :an I use rot.js for rendering < 1353885885 855178 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah :D < 1353885906 414198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice if there was an in-game spectating mode too, though I don't know how hard that would be < 1353885946 651941 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very hard, I got some ideas from Joshua Day < 1353885989 378518 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1353886007 399457 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this web client is an excercise in futility < 1353886033 806184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can do spectating then you can also do server-based play < 1353886055 912913 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought about that < 1353887324 236361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353887358 795201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353887402 722148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353887467 611609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353887902 80406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353887938 865748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric