< 1352766761 559865 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-80-128.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1352767474 681739 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1352769253 889636 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1352769765 583743 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's only one place that something's being deployed, it's fine to use features specific to that environment, right? < 1352769768 995762 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. named pipes) < 1352769807 575535 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that depends on a lot of factors, don't you think? like whether whoever you're deploying it for might want to spread out later, or whether you're being paid enough to care < 1352770649 27179 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1352770657 553057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also named pipes are supported by most operating systems < 1352770772 521914 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I should be using local sockets, not sure if that's easier or not :/ < 1352770786 134079 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, PHP page acts as a client and long running Python script acts as a server < 1352770796 692545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP: not even once < 1352770868 489057 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1352770907 840773 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1352771219 134348 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could write the client in a language other than the worst language ever < 1352771281 480122 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All it's going to do is serve the data to an AJAX call < 1352771385 407501 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, JSONP is a thing that exists that I could use < 1352771392 510000 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I'd have to learn some sort of ... hm < 1352771407 884799 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-236-110.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1352771677 944286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not serve it from the python process < 1352771715 221957 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'd have to do JSONPish stuff < 1352771720 286909 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I guess I can do < 1352771728 523781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you < 1352771730 277702 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I can run a Python process on this server to do web stuff < 1352771730 479351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that follow < 1352771749 353176 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm still using some other server for most of the web stuff < 1352771760 142170 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not going to start messing with that, it's not really under my control < 1352771769 251555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you are on some kind of shared hosting and you have mod_php and not mod_wsgi or mod_fastcgi < 1352771778 199687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks < 1352771790 588716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still don't see what this has to do with JSONP < 1352771797 400874 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Sgeo you finished fine structure right < 1352771801 786106 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yes < 1352771806 580473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it because you would have to host it on a different domain < 1352771809 114716 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1352771815 408524 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know anything about mod_wsgi or mod_fastcgi < 1352771821 448094 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those could be installed, I guess < 1352771826 602194 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott finish fine structure you knob < 1352771826 954202 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1352771828 4400 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea < 1352771836 197261 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess what i'm saying is, your frontend web server (apache or whatever) knows how to talk to PHP, but not Python? < 1352771837 583944 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Sgeo finish ds9 you knob < 1352771837 806151 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be on a different port < 1352771837 951866 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1352771838 260619 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1352771858 708354 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I have no idea if it knows how to talk to a long running Python process < 1352771859 800551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well typically web apps are configured with a frontend server proxying to one or more application server processes < 1352771891 764770 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the proxying can be literally HTTP proxying over localhost, or it could be FastCGI protocol, or WSGI which is a python-spceific thing I don't know much about < 1352772046 822052 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"These days, FastCGI is never used directly. Just like mod_python, it is only used for the deployment of WSGI applications." < 1352772058 572394 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really just want to do a two second thing, why can't I just FastCGI directly < 1352772065 466494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not really sure what that means "never used directly" < 1352772078 616341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably lies < 1352772100 125918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true that whatever's on the other end that parses the fastcgi requests will probably go through WSGI < 1352772106 400740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because most python web app frameworks are built around WSGI < 1352772135 492494 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:00:58 < Sgeo> I really just want to do a two second thing, why can't I just FastCGI directly < 1352772141 755004 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's easier to do wsgi < 1352772147 436171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at work we are using FastCGI because nginx's native wsgi support seemed pretty half-baked < 1352772157 455812 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it really that bad? < 1352772158 294970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because we know about fastcgi and have used it before < 1352772172 508318 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :uwsgi_pass etc < 1352772196 546941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the extent of it is that I went to http://wiki.nginx.org/NgxWSGIModule and observed "From LoONeYChIKuN: I was able to successfully get this to compile on 0.8.30 and 0.7.64 using this patch." and "From JacobSingh: I tested this against 0.6.23 and it didn't compile." < 1352772197 858307 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could easily just take this code snippit on this page and adapt it to my needs < 1352772208 831092 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that difficult < 1352772291 570185 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.zacharyvoase.com/2010/03/05/django-uwsgi-nginx/ looks pretty complicated compared to "apt-get install nginx python-flup" < 1352772313 760287 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's mostly because it starting from compiling freaking nginx < 1352772326 830717 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ing < 1352772354 168588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well why does it seem that everyone who wants to use nginx with wsgi has to compile it from scratch with weird patches etc < 1352772368 755172 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea < 1352772371 97960 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't < 1352772379 487764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't do in-depth research, but this pattern seemed to bode poorly < 1352772383 304904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do < 1352772429 816452 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pacman -S nginx; yaourt -S uwsgi < 1352772444 816670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent a while puzzling through this overly-simple generate Core before realizing that I had main = return () < 1352772455 727915 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Granted that second command does actually compile the thing but it's automatic. Think Gentoo except better < 1352772507 217790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1352772534 309753 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it also creates the init script < 1352772549 282382 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which will probably break in the next update due to systemd but hey) < 1352772576 726142 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1352772604 889509 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But at any rate, I can now get a WSGI app to magically appear in a location by putting two or three lines in the respective place in nginx's configuration < 1352772610 873060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1352772621 996070 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I wouldn't run Arch on a server though < 1352772630 618611 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, on a server that has some sort of reliability requirement < 1352772630 793166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do you have to run some separate uwsgi process or does nginx launch that < 1352772649 111019 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have to run uwsgid < 1352772667 44472 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's working < 1352772669 253434 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But setting that up is a one-time thing (just like any other daemon) < 1352772676 720985 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it can run multiple apps < 1352772679 821338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1352772731 871043 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the easiest way I've been able to figure out how to run Python web stuff under nginx < 1352772738 579110 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Least configuration per app < 1352772744 755309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, cool < 1352772747 609743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the info :) < 1352772841 637483 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ENGINE Serving on 127.0.0.1:8080 < 1352772847 846825 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With CherryPy) < 1352772861 23155 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet I can't access it from my browser < 1352772871 794149 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wondering if need to config to make it externally visible < 1352772936 218336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well is it running on the same machine as your browser? < 1352772985 214145 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1352772999 957037 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's why then < 1352773007 21309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's listening on the interface with IP 127.0.0.1 < 1352773738 88329 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I need to find the exact IP of the server? < 1352773879 340464 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your computer is broadcasting an IP address! < 1352773894 329205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to listen on all interfaces you can probably say ":8080" or "0.0.0.0:8080" on the command line < 1352773899 252798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what exactly you did to invoke cherrypy < 1352773902 6919 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1352773979 76543 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found a configuration thing < 1352773993 398555 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still not working < 1352774079 642090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :miss... < 1352774094 575325 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352774106 967234 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up, I'll do the PHP thing < 1352774111 631208 :TeruFSX_!~quassel@65-128-149-29.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352774274 246616 :TeruFSX!~quassel@65-128-149-29.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1352774279 755920 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1352774670 693364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo < 1352774695 81305 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like saying school is too hard, so you're going to drop out and smoke crack under a bridge < 1352774729 834073 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of have a harsh deadline right now, so don't really care < 1352774741 737671 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because I procrastinated all weekend) < 1352774824 812177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is benchmarking hard? :-( < 1352775225 832904 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just thinking, they could try to use the gate's technology to clone people < 1352775238 367393 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I watch this episode and what does McKay do? < 1352775619 900837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.inc.com/magazine/20110201/in-norway-start-ups-say-ja-to-socialism.html < 1352775823 829943 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1352776048 44452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you say that the abbreviation of plural "file descriptors" is "fds", "FDs", "fd's", or "FD's" < 1352776114 708408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fds" or "FDs". < 1352776127 88522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is on the anti-apostrophe-pluralization committee. < 1352776183 853077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i gather it is only correct in limited cases < 1352776186 509008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like single letters < 1352776228 412682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even like it in those limited cases. < 1352776238 360115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That may be an overreaction. < 1352776258 794593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in the case of a single letter I'm fine with it if you put apostrophes on both sides of the letter. :-) < 1352776815 756703 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well in the case of a single letter I'm fine with putting apostrophes on both sides of the letter if you put s's on both sides too < 1352776831 624834 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s's's < 1352776837 811532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously the plural of 'o' is 'ꙮ' < 1352776869 495219 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s'probably something wrong with encoding but I see that as "the plural of 'round' is 'square'" < 1352776876 714090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc never misses an opportunity to ꙮ. < 1352776887 243207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: I think that's just because you're racist or something. < 1352776889 558738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. :-( < 1352776900 128020 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what! < 1352776907 938177 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't anyone warn me before < 1352776926 139218 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I had the right to know if I was racist < 1352776949 784505 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder what "or something" might be, though < 1352777012 543622 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, hasn't anyone come up with "2-dimensional Thue" yet? < 1352777019 203637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 'CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O' (U+A66E) < 1352777041 85219 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :multio? you mean like 8? < 1352777057 646439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiocular_O < 1352777087 149135 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that's just disturbing < 1352777087 712550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it bothers me that the unicode reference glyph has 7 eyes, and the only primary source for the character I could locate has 10 eyes < 1352777108 540357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: I spent a long time tracking down the origin of this character with help from various people on IRC and such < 1352777122 604616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :had to find a copy of a soviet era paleography textbook on russian rapidshare < 1352777230 683092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, "Proposal to encode additional Cyrillic characters in the BMP of the UCS" is now a 404 < 1352777253 908288 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/809/capturedcran20121113042.png < 1352777282 927866 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like they *want* me not to see it < 1352777283 275648 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1352777286 107994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :get some better fonts < 1352777301 787014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that article has a picture though < 1352777308 415406 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cyrillic_letter_Multiocular_O.png < 1352777310 933328 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an ugly one, yes < 1352777323 114638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮ < 1352777332 895132 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that 8 of them < 1352777343 679835 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you think that might be dangerous? < 1352777495 169394 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well see you tomorrow < 1352777513 622654 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was supposed to be a reference to discworld btw) < 1352777519 486230 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1352777640 846039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently most hands in texas hold-'em are not worth playing < 1352777656 526740 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can bet on anything~ < 1352777676 516047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean < 1352777971 365409 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-18.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1352778167 519736 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :Sssateneth < 1352778211 136881 :Sssateneth!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1352780042 710058 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, yes, you get only two cards so it is difficult to know right away if it is best to play; however there is other things such as your current score, position, current bet, various other things to decide if it is worth playing or not; the probabilities are just one factor of many. But if you have two aces and no flop cards yet, you should probably play. < 1352780097 47551 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have two aces, the flop cards two of them are aces, and the third is 2 to 9, then you should definitely play. < 1352780120 527971 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe not 2 to 9, maybe 6 to 9. < 1352780210 860852 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I think I am wrong. < 1352780217 413608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But nevertheless you should probably play. < 1352780263 576457 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1352780305 474461 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to hurt whoever designed the Python version of the PubNub API. < 1352780383 30211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: What does that have to do with Clojure? < 1352780438 250245 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This project I'm working on that involves Python and PHP and PubNub is more important than the little Clojure project I have going. Does that count as having something to do with Clojure? < 1352780585 101577 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :subscribe is blocking. I want the event loop to be separate from subscribe < 1352780613 702846 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I think this is a good example of that article you linked, an advantage of node.js being that people make interoperable APIs < 1352780828 148591 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1352780832 683609 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And importantly, things other than the event loop wouldn't block *glare* < 1352780860 641382 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to subscribe to an indeterminate number of channels, not just one. I don't think Python threads are lightweight] < 1352780909 183066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :python threads are a disaster < 1352780937 203142 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1352780938 441018 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1352780950 366362 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not using them for parallel processing, just using them to get around the blocking API < 1352780996 42216 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's blocking because of a while True: not because of some C stuff. < 1352781019 241751 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, are they a disaster in a way other than the GIL, because I don't see how the GIL would hurt my use-case < 1352781198 133767 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1352781855 336070 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made some more rules of Pokemon game < 1352781856 880252 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVOLUTION DURING MATCH = PREVENT | DISQUALIFY | KNOCK OUT | DELETE | DELAY | ALLOW | ITEMS ONLY < 1352781870 661903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :INVALID TARGET CORRECTION = AUTO SAME SIDE | AUTO ANY SIDE | MISS | PROMPT | USER FAINTS | LOSE BATTLE | DISQUALIFY < 1352781881 522411 :lightquake!lightquake@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe93:ec71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352781900 667849 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :DISQUALIFY IF TEAM BECOMES INVALID DURING MATCH = NO | YES | ONLY BETWEEN BATTLES | ONLY BEFORE BATTLES AND IGNORING COMPUTER | DELETE VIOLATIONS | DELETE VIOLATIONS BETWEEN BATTLES < 1352781912 39049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPEED TIE BREAKER 1 = SIMULTANEOUS | RANDOM | BID | HIGHER LEVEL | LOWER LEVEL | TYPE DISADVANTAGE | DAMAGE | ALTERNATION | COMMAND ENTRY TIME < 1352781938 991028 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SURRENDER COMMAND = BATTLE | MATCH < 1352781950 482782 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SNAG OPPONENT'S POKEMON = NO | YES | ANTICIPATED BLOCK | ANTICIPATED EVADE | ANTICIPATED BLOCK AND EVADE < 1352782006 352580 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :DELETED POKEMON GO TO OPPONENT'S COMPUTER = NO | YES < 1352782040 657147 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you think of such things as this? < 1352782089 473707 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not really that into pokemon < 1352782098 597939 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or card-collecting games in general < 1352782111 516547 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, who wants some old mtg cards? < 1352782136 32524 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have them for 8 bucks shipping included < 1352782165 340797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want any; I only play Limited. < 1352782690 555262 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1352783517 658927 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=477454 < 1352783535 673799 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An argument about whether or not it's a horrific thing that there's an insult in the code < 1352783537 782004 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1352783547 649733 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's agreed that it's bad, but not agreed if it's urgently bad < 1352784184 601232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1352784311 320662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't even spell his name right < 1352784336 479183 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-18.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1352784372 986701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once I wrote a "impossible physics list", among other things it includes smaller atoms and universes where thirteen is not prime. < 1352784481 127737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :smaller than what? < 1352784568 298032 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smaller than hydrogen atoms. < 1352784638 251533 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the nuclear forces were stronger? < 1352784799 300456 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is based on I read a impossible physics book, which includes such things as invisibility, antimatter, starships, death star, and a few things, grouped into class I to class III impossibility. < 1352785071 265561 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my list I also included: making time go sideways, subjuctive television, Pokemon, dreams that it is impossible to wake up, anti-logic zones, people with mirrored molecules, ... < 1352785256 408300 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1352785257 690236 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1352785269 214045 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1352785315 442510 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1352785323 728535 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1352785344 519574 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1352785430 232790 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1352785833 290581 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@173.3.78.166 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1352785851 870806 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1352785880 899892 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352786894 710372 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1352786916 323295 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352787587 105759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1352789223 146614 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1352789376 402301 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1352792910 369670 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1352792941 673112 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1352793946 265699 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1352794176 431830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (["hi","there"],["new","haskellers"]) % partsOf (both.traverse.traverse) .~ "GREETINGS" < 1352794178 471752 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (["GR","EETIN"],["GSw","haskellers"]) < 1352794191 433976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (["hi","there"],["new","haskellers"]) % partsOf (both.traverse.traverse) %~ reverse < 1352794193 554984 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (["sr","ellek"],["sah","wenerehtih"]) < 1352794226 639430 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352794317 141734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Señor Ellek. < 1352794348 999912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (["hi","there"],["new","haskellers"]) % partsOf (both.traverse.traverse) %~ reverse % both %~ reverse < 1352794351 15455 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (["ellek","sr"],["wenerehtih","sah"]) < 1352794356 428434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're thinking of Ellek Sr. < 1352794385 425624 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Senior Engineer Señor Ellek Sr. < 1352794623 944528 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: have to go now < 1352795700 895383 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1352795876 523155 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1352798268 211736 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1352799760 852607 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352800260 632910 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352800384 70669 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the most recent Girl Genius < 1352800563 239891 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1352800594 14089 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1352800880 755569 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352801054 745486 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 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755638 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fueue is a ridiculous language < 1352816703 509653 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352817449 570554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352817573 225014 :segorev!~cherep@broadband-46-188-0-82.2kom.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1352817647 760553 :segorev!~cherep@broadband-46-188-0-82.2kom.ru QUIT :Client Quit < 1352817675 798162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1352817690 122337 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352817858 860661 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352817931 109802 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1352818952 706039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1352819222 16297 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1352819592 481490 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1352819852 193832 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352820456 445905 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352822679 130354 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1352822835 536774 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352823486 505588 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1352823736 131554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352823788 786280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, that was a surprisingly thoughtful scam email < 1352823797 220744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thought behind it was that it actually identified my mail provider correctly < 1352823802 647893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, it could have done that from the address < 1352824344 288442 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, in your implementations of Fueue, what was the divide by zero behaviour? < 1352824397 862404 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I remember asking you a few times, and since you said it was unspecified, I guess I must have let it for Ocaml to raise its appropriate exception < 1352824400 105664 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see < 1352824463 938053 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait I had two implementations < 1352824479 447900 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~/desktop/ocaml stephan$ gcc -o fueue fueue.c < 1352824479 778573 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~/desktop/ocaml stephan$ ./fueue '/ 5 0' < 1352824480 128127 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating point exception < 1352824515 159628 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1352824523 347138 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~/desktop/ocaml stephan$ ocamlc -o fueue fueue.ml < 1352824523 594826 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~/desktop/ocaml stephan$ ./fueue '/ 5 0' < 1352824523 771415 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fatal error: exception Division_by_zero < 1352824543 855331 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to do my version, except better, this time < 1352824557 425388 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the ocaml one clearly raise Division_by_zero when doing the division < 1352824568 717517 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure when the Floating point exception occurs in the C one, though < 1352824573 143585 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you're welcome :) < 1352824677 418276 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :./fueuec '/ 129 2 ~ H' < 1352824677 604231 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ < 1352824687 927246 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, so floating point only seem to occur with 0 < 1352824710 468628 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good, I think that's what I meant < 1352824740 445423 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1352824755 252559 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me know when you're done < 1352824779 82835 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably never < 1352825056 515044 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm i'm thinking up quite the language here! < 1352825056 863040 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1352825060 639230 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1352825127 287569 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's the deal: befunge, on an infinite-D 2x2x2x2x2x... board < 1352825162 423430 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so your position is just a binary number. by default the pointer goes 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, 1, etc < 1352825243 864347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: then most positions on the board are inaccessible < 1352825246 645313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the language is super-TC < 1352825314 398517 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd reckon it's linear-bounded < 1352825323 306617 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's super-TC < 1352825329 898503 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's a start moving in direction n command < 1352825346 903479 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, a turing-machine is less powerful than it if it's super-TC < 1352825402 898647 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Turing-machine is a kind of machine which is conjectured to be able to execute any well-defined algorithm < 1352825515 463395 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, moving around involves just going "x ^= dx", however, i'm going to somehow implement being able to modify multiple derivatives of x < 1352825525 860714 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352825576 124232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1352825593 262283 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so with multi-dimensional wrapping and speed, acceleration, jerk, jounce etc. set, you can make more intersting loops around the board < 1352825732 345022 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1352825849 982596 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/ZgbFzZ1c apparently you can make paths with a length of up to 2^ceil(log2(x)) when you define x derivatives of position < 1352825960 313946 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: http://esolangs.org/wiki/List_of_ideas#Based_on_dimensions < 1352825961 874038 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or uh, not really. it's 2^ceil(log2(x-1)), or something. anyway, to move around, instead of setting dx and dy to some value like befunge, you push dx, ddx, dddx, ddddx etc. onto a "movement stack" < 1352825980 261619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : what's super-TC < 1352825982 853843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: uncomputable < 1352825995 128563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am saying that either you cannot set the position to most possible values or your language is uncomputable < 1352826032 632753 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:Hcbf < 1352826173 519731 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the coords have to end with an infinite amount of 0s < 1352826196 131788 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncomputable is such a broad term < 1352826214 457356 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no bound to the number of dimensions your position can have, but it can't ever be infinite < 1352826223 229451 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how boring < 1352826226 520209 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :inf-anf-i < 1352826230 565532 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1352826236 76166 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :inf-anf-oh at least had periodic points < 1352826302 616542 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: why not < 1352826328 10376 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can unambiguously describe an infinite binary sequence, it should be ok :) < 1352826417 79098 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've considered that. representing position as a function (N -> Bool) < 1352826440 117108 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you'd need to have means to test those functions for equality, at least < 1352826466 119477 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thing is I'm not sure you'd be adding much to the language by allowing infinite sequence < 1352826471 724879 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's the issue < 1352826501 182129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : if you can unambiguously describe an infinite binary sequence, it should be ok :) < 1352826513 460102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost all infinite binary sequences cannot be described by any finite program < 1352826525 749929 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, "rational numbers" or whatever you call repeated sequences, can be describe with a notation such as "(finite sequence)*" < 1352826535 598026 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless your measure has atoms < 1352826571 528825 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in that case you're only adding the possibility to put a * after a finite sequence, so you are only "multiplying by two" the possibilities, which is kinda lame since there already are an infinite number of them < 1352826587 233345 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes that's the issue < 1352826642 310995 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things stay considerably more sane if you don't allow for coordinates like (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, ...) < 1352826766 464658 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, are you using the cantor topology for the space of all positions < 1352826770 395032 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"comparing functions for equality" is on my mental list of "the simplest things you can't do" < 1352826803 903998 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you have some nice language for describing sequences so that equality is decidable right? < 1352826887 700422 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's automatic sequences and fixed points of substitutions < 1352826892 611710 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in math < 1352826934 281410 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :although perhaps for the latter equality is not in general decidable, but i think it is for primitive substitutions or something < 1352826947 73573 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first time I thought about creating my own language I had an idea to include infinite sequences in it < 1352826993 730695 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using lazy-evaluating for-like statements and a few other things of the like < 1352827061 981293 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not every infinite sequence is describable, though, right < 1352827444 817839 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1352827469 964068 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much everything you'll ever need is describable < 1352827520 249033 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in math you occasionally need things you cannot describe exactly, but are members of some nonempty set you can describe) < 1352827548 793122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: (in case it isn't clear, positions in your language are isomorphic to reals) < 1352827614 990498 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if i'm not allowing for anything that doesn't end in "0 repeating" they're isomorphic to naturals, right < 1352827645 759674 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because (0, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0 repeating) is just 0b11010 < 1352827735 350847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: and if you allow any sequence to repeat, it's isomorphic to the rationals < 1352827740 175531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are isomorphic to the integers < 1352827751 563897 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, always ends with a repeating sequence but you can specify waht < 1352827752 955353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*what < 1352827797 6619 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually periodic < 1352827798 902691 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which was the basis of my informal proof the other day in a maths lesson that the digits of pi cannot be found within pi except for the obvious case of starting from the beginning < 1352827845 435852 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it implies repetition, which implies rationality < 1352827849 230353 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And pi is irrational < 1352827861 780112 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a characterization of periodicity is indeed that the sequence contains itself as a tail < 1352827900 631207 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's harder to prove that pi is irrational presumably < 1352827962 961734 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1352827976 709316 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :another characterization is this: there exists n such that the sequence contains at most n n-letter substrings < 1352827997 434874 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you prove this? can you think of a two-dimensional analogue? is it true? can you prove it? < 1352828048 186974 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352828053 21578 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, no, yes, no < 1352828080 917877 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno about the third one < 1352828100 302406 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the natural two-dimensional version is called nivat's conjecture < 1352828110 608825 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1352828171 663403 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's known that if there are at most 2n rectangles of shape n times 2, then the configuration is periodic (in at least one direction) < 1352828209 630309 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and recently it was proved that if there are at most nk/2 subrectangles of shape n times k then again it's periodic in some direction. < 1352828248 744114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how recently are we talking here < 1352828256 652907 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this year iirc < 1352828315 78671 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're going through the paper now, it's a bit annoying since we came up with all the main ideas in a seminar a few years back, except for the crucial idea of writing anything down. < 1352828344 180630 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mostly based on the work of a guy in our university who had the record nk/16 then) < 1352828354 576322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long until nk/1?!?!?!?! < 1352828384 492203 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1352828422 898689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nk/0.5 < 1352828565 18359 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what makes the question interesting is of course that you can easily find a binary configuration that isn't periodic and you have nk+1 ways to fill each n times k rectangle < 1352828582 414829 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nk - the natural counterpart to the 1d result - is a huge mystery < 1352828604 138488 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again that's math for ya < 1352828616 135885 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's awesome what you gonna do < 1352828620 35262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nk/-1 < 1352828620 373980 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we're making a game < 1352828651 776946 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can prove it for nk/infinity: < 1352828674 655602 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :assume the configuration x has nk/infinity = 0 subrectangles of n times k < 1352828681 90394 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it doesn't exist < 1352828683 150884 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :qed < 1352828707 923666 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maths < 1352828773 65782 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :math < 1352828777 515223 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fuck this is going to take forever to read < 1352828796 428912 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is < 1352828841 777622 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the context to this < 1352828851 64201 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you have all the time in the world < 1352828855 900895 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i don't < 1352828856 46319 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how's math going < 1352828871 706047 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still mostly boring, although geometry stopped and abstract algebra started < 1352828879 685761 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's vastly more interesting < 1352828901 280818 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :abstract algebra is nice yes < 1352828907 160247 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're writing our first algebra paper kinda < 1352828914 201287 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so far behind on differential equations it's not even funny < 1352828925 768899 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know anything about those :/ < 1352829008 537739 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also haven't listened to an analysis lecture in weeks < 1352829072 578212 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm only taking one course < 1352829076 544367 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :on nonstandard analysis < 1352829139 601354 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :f'(a) = (f(x) - f(a))/(x - a) for x - a infinitely small :-) < 1352829393 773857 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one of those things for which you need an object you can't describe < 1352829395 643574 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say f(x) = x² < 1352829397 431494 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :an ultrafilter < 1352829420 426469 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :f'(x) = 2x < 1352829427 193995 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :f''(x) = 2 < 1352829433 710297 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :f'''(x) = 0 < 1352829461 569871 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice work, can you do 6x^7 + 3x next? < 1352829467 423461 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh FreeFull < 1352829492 796658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because what you say is true does not make it relevant or interesting < 1352829509 456031 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was very amusing < 1352829520 787737 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: 42x^6 + 3 < 1352829548 832445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my experience spontaneous demonstrations of calculus ability are used mainly by drunk freshman attempting to prove that they are not drunk < 1352829566 282124 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: so far so good < 1352829581 398088 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm better at calculus when drunk. I am so sorted for university. < 1352829588 247876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1352829593 331722 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the problem being that such people usually have atriq's ability < 1352829619 219967 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a guy whose party trick is drawing accurate political maps of various countries and continents < 1352829629 540783 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can do it knock-out drunk < 1352829703 953289 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm shit at calculus sober, i should try it drunk < 1352829937 7263 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: e^x^x < 1352829952 717483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1352829958 620020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did FreeFull give us a bunch of derivatives of x^2 < 1352829960 339297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it < 1352829969 27725 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I was bored < 1352829978 155681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1352830593 381958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you all know the sky is blue? < 1352830599 566890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just thought you should have this information < 1352830632 345187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't < 1352830632 661233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e^x dx dx, e^y dy < 1352830938 285176 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1352830991 61523 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: if this sentence is a true statement, then the sky is actually reddish-green. < 1352831195 368470 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1352831240 798413 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1352831731 938380 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352831876 230593 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1352832053 853327 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1352832055 298329 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1352832101 719254 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1352832252 855675 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352832792 584030 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me < 1352832806 248965 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1352833210 928049 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1352834871 992253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1352834874 543444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :agda has pattern synonyms now < 1352834878 75545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooooooooool < 1352834981 436789 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, help, I'm writing another ridiculously long Haskell function < 1352834986 237931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1352834987 360756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't < 1352834998 141047 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to don't! < 1352835035 57702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't < 1352835048 171061 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't don't! < 1352835112 970333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't < 1352835165 921763 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't, when you can do! < 1352835184 134063 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Gregor < 1352835186 696257 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good advice < 1352835211 2762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't < 1352835287 607295 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: Split it up! < 1352835426 498051 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks kind of pretty < 1352835430 760376 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a rope < 1352835433 760783 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a tornado < 1352835448 819952 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Minas Tirith < 1352835866 72070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That tornado is carrying a car. < 1352835919 660006 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what. < 1352835958 930306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sonic 2006 quote. < 1352835981 612718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless that was an atriq-directed "what.", in which case I concur. < 1352836154 819826 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a warped sense of both beauty and pareidolia, okay? < 1352837809 890350 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1352838063 130671 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, as they say... damned if you do do, damned if you don't don't < 1352838094 349485 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, missed the whole "don't" discussion by about an hour < 1352838298 484384 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I've been thinking. < 1352838301 444980 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homestuck is pretty weird. < 1352838321 525278 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You... just noticed < 1352838335 703376 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've noticed it a couple of times before. < 1352838337 596241 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just noticed again. < 1352838354 872687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that there is no computable model... < 1352838359 49535 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For reference, http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003831 < 1352838369 169100 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is, in fact, a computable model of the Peano axioms. < 1352838414 210051 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: hahahahahahahahaha < 1352838417 644596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no, that's not what i meant < 1352838481 848453 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You meant a computable model of ZFC? < 1352838484 627293 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, there isn't one of those. < 1352838487 31638 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I think. < 1352838553 398395 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, what specifically made you notice that Homestuck is weird < 1352838553 552746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1352838556 149055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try again tswett!!! < 1352838558 59888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll get it eventually < 1352838581 611605 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :A computable model of... the real numbers? < 1352838586 321796 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's one of those, either. < 1352838620 398175 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: I read a TV Tropes page mentioning that in Homestuck, most of the dialogue takes place via chat programs. < 1352838660 450791 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no computable model of anything! < 1352838670 989552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong again tswett < 1352838693 829912 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no computable model of NFU? < 1352838695 492239 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's a countable model of the real numbers < 1352838715 781349 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no computable model of, uh... < 1352838719 391193 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :First-order... logic? < 1352838724 484447 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second-order logic? < 1352838732 314636 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probability theory? < 1352838750 949146 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category theory? < 1352838752 159985 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Physics? < 1352838756 936291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :love < 1352838767 369969 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The semantics of Haskell? < 1352838808 491389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: nope < 1352838825 979722 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gee... < 1352838829 134807 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I have a hint? < 1352838839 118632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no computable model of a computable set of axioms that uniquely defines the natural numbers < 1352838841 287529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because none exists!! < 1352838851 571859 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1352838859 852087 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1352838864 856198 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that sounds true. < 1352838881 981477 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, most of my conversations with you take place via chat programs < 1352838924 166843 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1352838928 877271 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That also sounds true. < 1352839006 421609 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it that weird, in a modern world, for a significant number of conversations to take place via chat programs? < 1352839010 797788 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than face to face? < 1352839031 869285 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not really. < 1352839044 657436 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is weird is that when people *are* together in person, they never actually speak. < 1352839061 914044 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until Act 6 Intermission 1 < 1352839084 115775 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And only if you don't count, for example, John's conversations with Nannasprite < 1352839100 531207 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the carapaced ones may have some actual conversation with each other before that. < 1352839103 438803 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am certain that I have typed more than I have said. < 1352839144 340213 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that the conversation is always paraphrased. < 1352840448 871915 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352840962 521269 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352841805 157277 :segorev!~cherep@broadband-46-188-0-82.2kom.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1352843229 577150 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352843316 392517 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1352844108 235582 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently I do not have a microphone now < 1352844579 900890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did somebody steal it? < 1352844598 5243 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352844680 103675 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1352844738 903862 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it allowed to update your candidate submission? < 1352844758 620292 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-82-156.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1352844765 65990 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, speaking of controllers (well, we were yesterday): quite a few games don't properly handle mixed input devices correctly it appears < 1352844799 736222 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, with that I mean switching between keyboard, controller or joystick on the fly < 1352844806 943583 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would make sense in many games < 1352845183 805259 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :night → < 1352845319 279904 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1352845449 535884 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1352846003 486236 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1352846016 805429 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1352846125 861838 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1352846358 554649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : According to Apple, a jury’s damages verdicts are immune from scrutiny so long as they fall “within the range encompassed by the record as a whole,” and the verdicts here fall within that “range” because they are lower than the damages Apple sought. < 1352846367 656006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this case has generally been hilarious < 1352847133 586171 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1352847567 777571 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1352848329 262955 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1352848346 925051 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1352848381 595836 :atenea1!~Venus@187-177-247-189.dynamic.axtel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352848412 893557 :atenea1!~Venus@187-177-247-189.dynamic.axtel.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1352849185 956441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The GNU Make Standard Library (GMSL) is a collection of functions implemented using native GNU Make functionality that provide list and string manipulation, integer arithmetic, associative arrays, stacks, and debugging facilities." < 1352849198 297877 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke? < 1352849204 107201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not afaik < 1352849533 538340 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.46.251 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1352849640 401285 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1352849862 147707 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Integers are represented by lists with the equivalent number of x's. For example the number 4 is x x x x.» < 1352849932 421375 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and memoization and map, too. very functional! < 1352849979 71577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__'s next language??? < 1352850012 141116 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there's an Ant Standard Library < 1352850032 256126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope it's named A/S/L