< 1350000056 350056 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1350000110 377984 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1350000619 898969 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-114-33.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1350001480 345077 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1350001756 391606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hello < 1350001766 807689 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i beat you to the punch this time < 1350001773 551348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: 2 fast 2 monqy < 1350002027 345985 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1350002196 679121 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1350002619 3896 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1350003688 492131 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1350003873 718952 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this Haskell type meaningful anything to you (I wrote it while trying to figure out something else): (forall y. forall z r. (x -> Cont r z) -> Cont r ((z -> x') -> y)) -> y) < 1350003944 943141 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey itidus was here < 1350004956 463453 :Wntrvnm!~operator@exovenom.net PART #esoteric :"http://wintervenom.github.com - http://wintervenom.us.to" < 1350005294 940881 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1350005425 773186 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The control schemes I like for platform games are using the shift keys to move, space to jump, and any of Z X C V B N M , . / to shoot. < 1350005443 234826 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I know only of a few games implementing this. < 1350006613 295188 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1350007268 233397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/bFXM6.jpg < 1350007468 702140 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That's not good because you might accidentally press both Shift keys at the same time. < 1350007473 176808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it'll change your keyboard layout. < 1350008525 919596 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It was a DOS program so it didn't do that, and anyways it won't change the keyboard layout if you don't have it configured like that < 1350008710 40021 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I allowed to slap library writers who don't understand the most advertised feature of the language they're writing a library in? < 1350008719 170312 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incanter uses STM, but uses it wrongly. < 1350008729 47063 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do tell? And, yes. < 1350008865 576146 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The defop function in incanter.infix alters several refs, but each alteration is in its own dosync block < 1350008876 437330 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/liebke/incanter/blob/master/modules/incanter-core/src/incanter/infix.clj#L42 < 1350008895 776407 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there are several ... hold on, I have deja vu < 1350008898 166645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're sure they intended for it to be atomic? < 1350008913 746495 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if they intended for it to be anything < 1350008939 112686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :déjà < 1350008987 308379 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, when I was reading it before, I thought there could be a negative consequence, but looking at it now, I don't think so < 1350009036 195422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like more transactions might have higher overhead and lower uncontended throughput, but fewer big transactions might have more likelihood of livelock < 1350009045 946144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just a vague guess < 1350009057 783179 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it might not be correct for Clojure because their STM implementation is not lockless < 1350009131 235298 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if that last dosync runs later, it's still finding the highest value in the precedence table and putting it in highest precedence < 1350009257 907910 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-32-102.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1350009656 386062 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1350010417 889230 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My team has 24 winning streak so far. < 1350010457 272334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My team has 25 winning streak. < 1350010465 735347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I win this one, zzo38. < 1350010548 975363 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1350010570 262247 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regardless of winning streak you might win or lose. < 1350010581 402744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My team is "heads". < 1350010583 585789 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I beat someone with more winning streak than I have. < 1350010611 370216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you cheat? < 1350010708 609294 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1350010841 614211 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1350010892 673473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Did you play Zork Zero? < 1350010969 166269 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1350011007 639884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That's a good game. < 1350011010 5198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should play it! < 1350011036 521804 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1350011135 55335 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-31-108.singnet.com.sg JOIN :#esoteric < 1350011143 640344 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should play trial of the clone < 1350011444 299566 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, Chrome just goes ahead and downloads a .exe but warns me that .jars can harm my computer? < 1350011508 539257 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you did not configure it? < 1350011534 650727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Did you play Double Fanucci? < 1350011572 203094 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have any cards to play Double Fanucci. < 1350011579 738689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about in the computer? < 1350011618 351661 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1350011661 609178 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eww, the Incanter executable ships with Clojure 1.2 < 1350013070 636030 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sentence claims to be an Epimenides Paradox, but it is lying. < 1350013860 189647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't believe you < 1350013948 623008 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither do I. < 1350013961 282177 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe me either! < 1350015179 142901 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1350015768 561327 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1350015959 361588 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1350016012 346661 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello elliott < 1350016108 817628 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1350016114 250113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello monqy < 1350016120 750206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am elliotts < 1350016193 905137 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1350016334 329730 :donmarquis!~donmarqui@gateway/tor-sasl/donmarquis JOIN :#esoteric < 1350016353 516395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1350016354 128842 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1350016355 897657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1350016379 484597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott what did the message say < 1350016380 159962 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1350016993 322256 :donmarquis!~donmarqui@gateway/tor-sasl/donmarquis QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1350017111 352547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1350017360 83567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/Agda/latest/doc/html/src/Agda-Auto-Auto.html#auto < 1350017417 490826 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. National Coming Out Day. *shrug* Guess I'll use the last hour of it to say "I'm bi", though I think I might have said that previously here? < 1350017420 889284 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feh, not that it matters. < 1350017427 608119 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No real IRC sexytimes here. < 1350017434 326497 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe some rape of the brain. < 1350017446 553409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I didn't know you were a functor. < 1350017453 612857 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Smartass. < 1350017570 540732 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Dungeons&Dragons player has played Double Fanucci, though, but lost five perica (a form of currency in the Japanese manga "Kaiji", used by underground slave colony, worth one tenth of one yen) at it. < 1350017655 220646 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you know if you were a functor? < 1350017667 922801 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a endofunctor? < 1350017710 757188 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glad to see everyone here has appropriate levels of apathy about sexuality. < 1350017975 320737 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agda.Utils.Impossible < 1350018069 280384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey all our brainfucking is strictly consensual < 1350018076 924769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfucking and brickbraining too < 1350018113 533659 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Malbolge touched me in naughty places < 1350018121 959134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :malbolge is kinky < 1350018143 134933 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PART :#esoteric < 1350018247 480057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Astronomical twilight is of importance in this Dungeons&Dragons game now. < 1350018516 147902 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To win this game, we have to take advantage of everything, including the phase of the moon. < 1350018891 631650 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/11cmsi/paul_ryan_admits_romney_win_would_lead_to_world/ if I ever needed any proof that Democrats can sensationalize things too < 1350018947 652650 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But everyone knows $other is evil, and $us is good! < 1350018967 596195 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's why I should be supreme overlord of everything. < 1350018976 615811 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am your overlord! < 1350019247 98636 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there should be no supreme overlord of everything. But maybe some thing, OK < 1350019302 170928 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is no life, truth, intelligence, nor substance in matter. All is infinite Mind and its infinite manifestation, for God is All-in-all. Spirit is immortal Truth; matter is mortal error. Spirit is the real and eternal; matter is the unreal and temporal. Spirit is God, and man is His image and likeness. Therefore man is not material; he is spiritual." < 1350019312 708995 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Christian Science is weirder than I thought. < 1350019330 85456 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-32-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's weird? < 1350019342 147929 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is that Christian or science? < 1350019364 908382 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beats me, but that's Christian Science for you. < 1350019444 89464 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Given that it suggests that *matter* is not *real*? Yeah, that's weird. < 1350019473 407588 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-32-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just platonism. < 1350019535 855630 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most religious folk go for dualism. Y'know, where minds are magic. < 1350019576 472796 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-32-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "spirits", here. < 1350019614 753484 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh. < 1350019796 689021 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Point is, it's gibberish that's either false or devoid of meaning, and I find it deserving of mockery. < 1350019821 690666 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finds anything that tells people to reject modern medicine as deserving of utmost hatred.
< 1350019845 775429 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-32-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, go for it. I just meant that it's old and venerable < 1350019864 621197 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Plato came up with it first doesn't mean shit. :) < 1350019871 690279 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-32-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite. < 1350019882 822180 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only silly people think Plato was actually right about everything. < 1350019910 419973 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He just managed to think about things before a lot of other people is all, really. < 1350020103 167537 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people are monism other are dualism, but my opinion is I think monism and dualism are both wrong. < 1350020156 994082 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think is right? < 1350020286 431435 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the mind, matter, are one with the universe, so really everything is one with the universe, however, the universe itself is just mathematics, which includes things other than those which might be physical. All is mathematics. However, even the universe may be exist just because people observe, and yet the people exist because is part of universe, it is something like a causality loop. < 1350020359 735156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course this is just philosophy, including of metaphysics and stuff like that, not reality. However, it is my opinion based on what I know about physics. < 1350020408 496499 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there's a bit turtle whose poop is planets < 1350020413 403144 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*big < 1350020553 650055 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if nothing exists, then something might exist there is nothing to make nothing to exist! As someone has said, they couldn't decide whether nothing or something to exist, so they decided to toss a coin. But to toss a coin, it has to exist, so the choice is already made for them. Something exists because something is a cheater. Of course this is all metaphorical, but the point stands. < 1350020642 266935 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This recording of the Dungeons&Dragons game (I have typed out the Oct.9 session today) contains footnotes such as "Why does Kjugobe's note have a reference to a footnote in this book?" < 1350020657 860342 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That sounds essentially like philosophical materialism, combined with the idea that the universe is a lawful place, combined with the idea that the simulation hypothesis is valid, and the idea that that simulation doesn't really need to be *run* for the universe to exist in some sense. < 1350020669 812082 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Bit of a conjugation of ideas there, but eh < 1350020744 89661 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is not a simulation, but mathematics. Some mathematics may be uncomputable. In addition, some equations may have multiple solutions or no solution. And then, there are even more complexities than this. It doesn't necessarily all correspond to physical objects, even though all is the same mathematics. < 1350020759 383287 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they are the same as the ones that do. < 1350020788 90081 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, let's sum that up a bit more cleanly. < 1350020809 468038 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The universe can be expressed mathematically." < 1350020814 853929 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1350020831 154194 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... Basically materialism, isn't it/ < 1350020832 18943 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1350020880 943076 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is like materialism but my ideas have some differences and more things too. But I don't know "materialism" exactly. < 1350020932 982040 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Materialism" in the modern sense is more-or-less "All that is, is physics." < 1350020946 204342 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1350020959 269363 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's technically other sorts, but that's the sort most people really care about) < 1350020989 673458 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/most people/most people who discuss ontology/ :P < 1350021341 561581 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1350021368 837605 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1350024853 364715 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350025027 48677 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1350025155 424235 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-32-102.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: (dyn) < 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240377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1350033784 123646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350033829 418259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, randomly-walking brainfuck < 1350033843 499275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that it's TC given arbitrary control flow (conditional goto is enough) < 1350033853 9895 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems very difficult to convert that to [] loops < 1350035027 857053 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350035028 93931 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1350035401 693819 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1350035743 482281 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1350035770 878119 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1350036373 852688 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:Gregor!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1350038831 751783 :Cryovat!~null@sky.prism.winterday.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1350038831 751859 :chickenzilla!~chicken@88-190-32-81.rev.dedibox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1350038843 398988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1350038843 558770 :ais523_!~ais523@147.188.254.149 NICK :ais523 < 1350038845 804717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messy. < 1350038852 394764 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric < 1350038852 395296 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: through a NAT and the University's firewall? < 1350038852 395653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's what all the popups say. < 1350038852 395759 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1350038852 395840 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :computers always send their IP whenever they contact anything, unless you spoof it (in which case you don't get a reply) < 1350038852 395947 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although "broadcast" is a little different < 1350038852 396049 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :BROADCASTING an IP ADDRESS and HACKING, I tell you. < 1350038852 396158 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.149 QUIT :Changing host < 1350038852 396235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350038852 396313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's better. < 1350038852 396420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, both freenode and synirc were netsplitted at the same time < 1350038852 396524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it was for the same reason? < 1350038917 197312 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's funny, IRCnet was slightly, too. < 1350038952 827754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least approximately at the same time; maybe it was slightly earlier. < 1350038954 576380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:38 -!- Netsplit *.pl <-> ircnet.eversible.com < 1350038973 688843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eversible is somewhere in the states (united), I believe. < 1350039001 793008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You awake? I think you're connected to some us server too, right? < 1350039002 783377 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i think she turned around but why? can i spend my time solving different kinds of numbers. i do. see: fnord/ fnord < 1350039030 413325 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solving different kinds of numbers sounds like a reasonable hobby for a computer program. < 1350039093 697984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1350039579 282357 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1350039677 552058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1350040358 71104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah ha, more splittery on the IRCnet side. < 1350040366 500968 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone must have it against IRC networks today. < 1350040793 335872 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1350041227 34763 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1350041250 60376 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1350043007 346676 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1350043625 215677 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1350045590 64859 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1350046125 789401 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1350048117 497743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1350049879 808808 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://austriantimes.at/news/Around_the_World/2012-10-10/44722/Holy_Shit < 1350054412 640627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :always amusing when a food is labeled "96% fat free" < 1350054418 175686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds better than "4% fat" < 1350054467 966375 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1350054514 831848 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means you're only paying for 4% of the fat. < 1350054520 716820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rest is subsidized by the non-fat. < 1350054523 255679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a deal < 1350054604 496824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: @shachaf, I assume that you were referring to my answer (correct me if I am wrong). Yes it does copy the array first and then does the in-place shuffle, however, fixing this is simply exchanging thaw with unsafethaw < 1350054775 432787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: If the implicit question is whether HaskellElephant ever says anything that makes sense, the answer is no. < 1350054817 425844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's that? < 1350054865 502598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on, you literally just quoted them. < 1350054883 543873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but in the grander scheme. < 1350055082 104216 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350055150 65996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some person who posts bad Haskell questions on SO. < 1350055152 310138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I like ilango's answer. < 1350055159 647120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it so much I'm going to click the "delete" button on it. < 1350055185 895271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have magical delete powers? < 1350055252 930576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1350055261 757829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needs two more votes to make it happen though. < 1350055272 303484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Yes. < 1350055298 8557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Memorized any good codepoints lately? < 1350055321 931220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :None. < 1350055386 968253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : I woke up before 08:00 today. < 1350055389 566190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's ridiculous. < 1350055881 562869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't do that. < 1350055914 410867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ridicule? < 1350055998 667891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wake up. < 1350056013 16940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am awake. :-( < 1350056045 849044 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1350056127 603330 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1350056128 421126 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-27-216.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1350056133 152564 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-27-216.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1350056138 691071 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey < 1350056143 257388 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also just got here < 1350058816 964054 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the HHGG TV series better than the movie? < 1350058906 832475 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a new tv series to go with the recent(ish?) movie, an old movie to go with the old tv series, or neither? < 1350058947 918778 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither < 1350058967 780823 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, then I don't know because I haven't seen the tv series < 1350058985 310157 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think the movie can be watched in HD, so it must be better < 1350059267 546862 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The acting's a bit iffy < 1350059272 380817 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMoi-nDd6cQ < 1350059332 746434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bbc h2g2 series is good < 1350059383 752294 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I linked I think? < 1350059496 2152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so too < 1350059530 417021 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think the acting's iffy < 1350059629 729604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember anything about it, only that it was good < 1350059649 746017 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I like the book the best < 1350060020 945437 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably buy And Another Thing at some point < 1350060100 737371 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1350060508 177790 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1350060547 137162 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1350060639 120929 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-31-108.singnet.com.sg QUIT :Quit: mig22 < 1350060757 22504 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1350061010 950598 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the reason I'm not laughing that much is because I pretty much know all the jokes < 1350061037 852470 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet there are plenty of new kinds of joke that would make you laugh < 1350061765 61313 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know that joke about the people who knew all the jokes? < 1350061812 112956 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a village somewhere where everyone knows all the jokes < 1350061842 965202 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the local pub, occasionally someone exlaims "joke #46!" < 1350061855 977446 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everyone would burst out laughing < 1350061879 641178 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but one day, a guy exclaims "joke #32!" < 1350061884 52862 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nobody laughs < 1350061901 847716 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that guy says "yeah, I've never known how to tell that joke." < 1350062255 623282 :ssue!u5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aqcjbfhzwtreqodm QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1350062532 930057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try a number that is not in range < 1350062610 546378 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's a classic < 1350062623 298254 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they called it #67 < 1350062714 418647 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the fact that there were only 52 jokes when they declared that one #67 is, itself, #53. < 1350063384 293635 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1350063453 21074 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1350063528 900907 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean something other than a positive integer. < 1350063551 225411 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if Bill Bryson reads Homestuck < 1350063564 577383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What if you try an unnameable real number? < 1350063632 441816 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, if they tried a number that is not a natural number, they'd get confused by your surrealist humour < 1350063644 425897 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2+7i is a very complex joke < 1350063659 481927 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-4 is a bit negative < 1350063856 643240 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lim(x->infinity) 1/x) isn't very funny. < 1350063885 266338 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, my original statement was in the context of knowing the jokes used in HHGG < 1350063920 939400 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no-one respects context in here < 1350063980 95675 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wonder Smalltalk isn't very well used in here; everyone disrespects thisContext. < 1350064019 924907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hilarious Sgeo < 1350064031 546064 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't do smalltalk < 1350064037 676669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ps what. who is bill bryson even. < 1350064044 894466 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not Smalltalk either < 1350064051 845364 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, non fiction author who is currently in hexham < 1350064064 428916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is bill bryson in hexham < 1350064070 967556 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beats me < 1350064071 891444 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why are you asking me who Bill Bryson is? < 1350064079 617512 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-(fiction author who is currently in hexham) < 1350064086 324279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1350064087 61204 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is in Hexham for the single purpose of beating me < 1350064088 190851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq said it < 1350064094 965069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you guys stop having nicks of the same length < 1350064101 527626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok the same length give or take one < 1350064102 364133 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4==5 < 1350064116 552441 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net NICK :atriqWhoIsTanebA < 1350064122 847651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriqWhoIsTanebA: beating you at what < 1350064124 515432 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, none of us has the same nick length as any other participant < 1350064129 866206 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :except them/ourselves < 1350064135 999463 :atriqWhoIsTanebA!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net NICK :atriq < 1350064149 476474 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, other definition of "beating" < 1350064153 718203 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If by participant you mean chatting person < 1350064161 272150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: ok < 1350064163 801132 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because boily and augur have nicks length 5 < 1350064172 11506 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GUYS < 1350064174 38380 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEXHAM NEWS < 1350064174 789529 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.hexhamcourant.co.uk/news/man-killed-by-falling-tree-1.1004001?referrerPath=news < 1350064175 810371 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was only counting everyone after the "who is bill bryson even" line < 1350064188 217807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, Hexham actually exists? < 1350064197 508889 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1350064199 806150 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no it doesn't < 1350064201 625079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no < 1350064206 225459 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hexham < 1350064209 621109 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :even imaginary places have newspapers duh < 1350064216 559695 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham is a European town. There are nine people in Hexham, and at least two of them are in this channel. Taneb looks after the ham. < 1350064231 398379 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :not5nick < 1350064233 240730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a Taneb? < 1350064250 211383 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Taneb is kinda like an atriq, but younger < 1350064253 514018 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1350064256 554898 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily may be French or something. We are not sure about the rest. < 1350064269 629194 :not5nick!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not boily, because I don't have a 5-length nick :p < 1350064277 942669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so wait < 1350064283 916029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does everyone in the channel have a different nick length now < 1350064284 906816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's spooky < 1350064287 976897 :not5nick!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is not sure about the effectiveness of his subtle camouflage
< 1350064291 252654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1350064299 36505 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, everyone < 1350064313 213168 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only assume that log is not an everyone. < 1350064314 917460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1350064315 255236 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clog < 1350064315 914950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote < 1350064316 591927 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :JohnyBoy says: so have a nice goodspeed < 1350064319 954607 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But your username is given as "~boily" and I can see your NICK command above too < 1350064325 121699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice quote < 1350064333 37464 :not5nick!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: darn! foiled! < 1350064338 862264 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott and shachaf are the same length < 1350064340 273173 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaah < 1350064351 177728 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not completely obvious since the displayed nick lengths are rounded to the closest integer < 1350064353 56022 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This clearly means they are one and the same! < 1350064368 774343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote < 1350064369 569376 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :null says: = true < 1350064370 246225 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(swap! olsner inc) < 1350064380 342192 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@forget null = true < 1350064380 914392 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1350064383 17599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote it's not completely obvious since the displayed nick lengths are rounded to the closest integer < 1350064383 409081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote < 1350064384 81467 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :butt2 says: "I'd butt linux on the butt, I'd like to give buttad a try" < 1350064386 249970 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :871) it's not completely obvious since the displayed nick lengths are rounded to the closest integer < 1350064388 316008 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: swap!? < 1350064389 313716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: Not only are "elliott" and "shachaf" the same length, but so are the usernames and cloaks < 1350064398 728155 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence Hexham is in Finland, hence I'm in Finland! < 1350064402 747904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im shachaf < 1350064425 975729 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I released version 5 of FurryScript with a few bugfixes, and added documentation for some commands: RSC ALL GEN ARG TR TR- TRB TRB- REX REX- REX+ RNG LAH < 1350064435 288115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no im shachaf!!!!!! < 1350064461 220269 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, Clojure. If olsner is an atom, it atomically changes what the atom contains to (inc @olsner) < 1350064464 515009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :were shachaf < 1350064485 867390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://docs.python.org/library/doctest.html is cute < 1350064487 943684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You turn into shachaf at the full moon? < 1350064493 453789 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darnit < 1350064496 264557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It is. < 1350064498 125682 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :atomically changing an atom, that sounds good < 1350064500 317885 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was going to say that but in a worse way
< 1350064505 738329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:55 The Moon is Waning Crescent (10% of Full). New moon in NetHack in 2 days. < 1350064526 185297 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what's (inc @olsner)? < 1350064539 902818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good things then, I have the phase of moon and all ephemeris of all planets in my computer. < 1350064541 731687 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner incorporated? < 1350064553 322639 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ is a bit of reader syntax that will expand to (deref olsner) < 1350064558 469504 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which are the phases of the moon that are viewable mid-afternoon < 1350064564 837678 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm overthinking a song I heard once < 1350064576 811465 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do I need to be dereffed before incorporation? < 1350064582 485189 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1350064587 767197 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(inc 5) ; 6 < 1350064599 134296 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(deref (atom 10)) ; 10 < 1350064619 403105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: I don't know, maybe half moon? < 1350064639 262656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Maybe a Zork Zero Moon. < 1350064641 869834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember Zork Zero? < 1350064644 52045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the moons? < 1350064654 884923 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1350064660 141625 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which half moon! < 1350064672 158511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The inner half. < 1350064679 485792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: how is your os < 1350064710 365075 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no news < 1350064710 452326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen the Zork calendar, with various strange phase of moon < 1350064726 470658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dimwit's Birthday Observed. < 1350064753 741585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every Thursday, yes... But it is Friday today. < 1350064765 467809 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaah, a waxing moon < 1350064811 328360 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc, I was last setting up some boring stuff that'd allow running specific test-case programs on a fresh-booted kernel with qemu < 1350064821 800604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No, Zork Zero is shifted by one day. < 1350064846 594254 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and that either requires qemu built from git because some stuff is broken, or a bunch of boring workarounds in my code < 1350064854 94231 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: O, is that because of the different leap years? < 1350064879 822052 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Uh, I guess. < 1350064883 813705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just making things up. < 1350064886 869407 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the mid-afternoon perhaps the sun is in the 8th house, so perhaps the moon would be in the 11th house then, so it would be waxing half moon, if visible in the mid afternoon. < 1350064922 756338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Since they move counterclockwise around the zodiac) < 1350064940 209050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is, forward.) < 1350065047 370130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think clockwise is forward, zzo38. < 1350065053 1409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever looked at a clock? < 1350065086 226951 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a clock, yes, clockwise is forward. However, on a horoscope, the angle increases counterclockwise. < 1350065097 207803 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :BEWARE THE Ø̈RJANIST MØ̈Ø̈SE | I, for one, welcome our new hash function overlords | E5081A06F9E364E179B336A2C6D6831D4B50CD7739C7E1565E03EBF2 | God made the natural numbers; all else is the work of ZARDOZ | Channel logs: http://5z8.info/hookers_j0l4yf_nakedgrandmas.jpg | http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1350065107 819032 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is, ecliptic longitude) < 1350065136 310279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca TOPIC #esoteric :BEWARE THE RJANIST MSE | I, for one, welcome our new hash function overlords | E5081A06F9E364E179B336A2C6D6831D4B50CD7739C7E1565E03EBF2 | God made the natural numbers; all else is the work of ZARDOZ | Channel logs: http://5z8.info/hookers_j0l4yf_nakedgrandmas.jpg | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1350065142 235782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ø̈ < 1350065154 4506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ø̈Ø̈Ø̈ < 1350065159 370171 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops I forgot one letter < 1350065173 588381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca TOPIC #esoteric :BEWARE THE ORJANIST MOOSE | I, for one, welcome our new hash function overlords | E5081A06F9E364E179B336A2C6D6831D4B50CD7739C7E1565E03EBF2 | God made the natural numbers; all else is the work of ZARDOZ | Channel logs: http://5z8.info/hookers_j0l4yf_nakedgrandmas.jpg | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1350065184 804228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops I forgot the slash < 1350065197 947025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ø̈h nø̈. < 1350065220 385822 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :organist moose, now that's a sight < 1350065240 102948 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :I, for one, welcome our new hash function overlords | E5081A06F9E364E179B336A2C6D6831D4B50CD7739C7E1565E03EBF2 | logs: http://5z8.info/hookers_j0l4yf_nakedgrandmas.jpg | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1350065243 509309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beware the onanist moose < 1350065246 4280 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Womp womp. < 1350065260 781162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are the channel logs now naked grandmas? < 1350065262 262280 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, no zardoz? < 1350065272 475939 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca TOPIC #esoteric :BEWARE THE O/RJANIST MO/O/SE | I, for one, welcome our new hash function overlords | E5081A06F9E364E179B336A2C6D6831D4B50CD7739C7E1565E03EBF2 | God made the natural numbers; all else is the work of ZARDOZ | Channel logs: http://5z8.info/hookers_j0l4yf_nakedgrandmas.jpg | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1350065282 254830 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: shadyurl.com = best URL shortener < 1350065294 437242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why did you duplicate the log link in the topic? < 1350065297 831684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1350065308 647335 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and someone should make a new zardoz joke < 1350065309 412670 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does MyWOT dislike 5z8.info < 1350065317 262608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I did not duplicate it. Now you have both the picture and text logs. < 1350065323 445605 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo "joke" < 1350065324 284786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the .jpg isn't a picture < 1350065334 509484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What's a MyWOT? < 1350065336 576058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're too biased to windows-centric file extensions, zzo38!! < 1350065340 371611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Clojure thing, isn't it? < 1350065351 290216 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I didn't look so I don't know, I just know that .jpg is usually a picture (regardless of operating system). < 1350065355 882387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clø̈jure < 1350065381 814606 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :BEWARE THE O/RJANIST MO/O/SE | I, for one, welcome our new hash function overlords | E5081A06F9E364E179B336A2C6D6831D4B50CD7739C7E1565E03EBF2 | ZARDOZ created ZARDOZ; all else is the work of ZARDOZ | Channel logs: http://5z8.info/hookers_j0l4yf_nakedgrandmas.jpg | http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1350065382 496961 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: @ uses .jpg to hold filesystem metadata. < 1350065393 68932 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should've made that link point to naked grandmas after people had been taught it was just a link to the logs < 1350065435 858027 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear god < 1350065441 797369 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bluh, shadyurl doesn't like data URLs < 1350065449 254865 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(URIs) < 1350065453 20718 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm analysing a song from a children's TV show completely out of context < 1350065479 385724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Then don't use shadyurl, if it doesn't like data URLs. < 1350065529 904720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca TOPIC #esoteric :BEWARE THE O/RJANIST MO/O/SE | I, for one, welcome our new hash function overlords | E5081A06F9E364E179B336A2C6D6831D4B50CD7739C7E1565E03EBF2 | God made the natural numbers; all else is the work of ZARDOZ | Channel logs: http://5z8.info/hookers_j0l4yf_nakedgrandmas.jpg | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1350065539 10026 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hay why did you remove the log < 1350065563 438090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca TOPIC #esoteric :BEWARE THE O/RJANIST MO/O/SE | I, for one, welcome our new hash function overlords | E5081A06F9E364E179B336A2C6D6831D4B50CD7739C7E1565E03EBF2 | ZARDOZ created ZARDOZ; all else is the work of ZARDOZ | Channel logs: http://5z8.info/hookers_j0l4yf_nakedgrandmas.jpg | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1350065573 385503 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 has a serious case of Not Getting the Joke, even though the joke was inspired by him. < 1350065581 796665 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, because it was there, but just looked different < 1350065622 658474 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, Web of Trust thingy, people vote on whether domains are suspicious or not < 1350065634 776584 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes people suck, but I do tend to rely on it < 1350065645 536969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :5z8.info is very suspicious. < 1350065651 334972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not even a valid z-encoding! < 1350065663 544180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xn--5z8.info < 1350065683 705646 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/geocities.com < 1350065706 333864 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just ... read the comments < 1350065710 865131 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it is a redirect but not a very good one, it says "expected /hookers_j0l4yf_nakedgrandmas.jpgsplit Arrayshort hookers_j0l4yf_nakedgrandmas.jpgQUERYhookers_j0l4yf_nakedgrandmas.jpg" on it! < 1350065730 891672 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1350065743 10999 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :searching for z-encoding gave me "Zen Coding is a set of plug-ins for text editors that allow for high-speed coding and editing in HTML, XML, XSL, [...]" < 1350065752 781437 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1350065761 300422 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but to be fair, the second hit was the ghc commentary < 1350065789 946791 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Zen” and “XML” should not be allowed in the same sentence. < 1350065800 533767 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then fix it to use xn--5z8.info if you think 5z8.info is no good < 1350065810 978482 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except to say “those who have written XML can never achieve Zen.” < 1350065820 588465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Are you sure? < 1350065828 9167 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite. < 1350065839 328762 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/www.quote-egnufeb-quote-greaterthan-colon-hash-comma-underscore-at.info < 1350065843 174180 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the path to Zen was avoiding Zen < 1350065855 853700 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: wat < 1350065856 528114 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where does it get the value from? I doubt someone's actually voted for that < 1350065903 654292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost as if you can't trust web of trust < 1350065954 250616 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I'm analysing a Eurobeat fansong of a children's TV show < 1350065956 924389 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also got a higher score than the more normal domain name https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/www.phlamethrower.co.uk < 1350065957 901161 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350065978 831314 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW I MUST LEAVE FOREVER OR AT LEAST UNTIL PROBABLY TOMORROW EVENING < 1350065979 801645 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-251.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1350065990 652260 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though in the latter case it claims to know where the server is, unlike the former < 1350066166 838605 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1350066537 754065 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1350066939 310622 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe someone did vote for it < 1350066977 798294 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The plugin doesn't really do exact numbers < 1350066986 321804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah all those befunge haters on the internet < 1350067021 699832 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca TOPIC #esoteric :BEWARE THE O/RJANIST MO/O/SE | I, for one, welcome our new hash function overlords | E5081A06F9E364E179B336A2C6D6831D4B50CD7739C7E1565E03EBF2 | ZARDOZ created ZARDOZ; all else is the work of ZARDOZ | New channel logs: http://5z8.info/hookers_j0l4yf_nakedgrandmas.jpg | Old-style channel logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1350067036 736618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am arthur frayne, and i am zardoz < 1350067083 77732 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1350067102 973961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see "MOH/OH/SE" where the H's are reverse video which I guess means they are ^H? < 1350067103 143045 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not zardoz < 1350067121 125259 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just see MO/O/SE < 1350067127 297708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i get it < 1350067149 174499 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: They are supposed to be backspace < 1350067152 40088 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that thing where you use backspace to put characters on top of each other? < 1350067189 401907 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My computer shows them black-on-purple on the screen, but displays the slashed O properly on the printout. < 1350067201 174598 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me it just says MO/O/SE < 1350067201 597282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you print out hardcopy logs of IRC? < 1350067209 25991 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean the "H" with black on purple; the rest of the text in blue) < 1350067217 19861 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Sometimes. < 1350067223 272294 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, you don't? < 1350067224 539451 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes, and then he OCRs them and puts them on gopher < 1350067226 365563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1350067229 346255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1350067240 959071 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at one point i had a dot matrix printer as my linux system console < 1350067256 934939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to diagnose a bug which crashed the graphics card < 1350067265 858670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it slowed down the boot process quite a bit < 1350067311 184387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you connect to IRC? < 1350067317 906056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not on the printer < 1350067427 66688 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why would you use an actual printer instead of e.g. connecting a null modem cable to another computer? < 1350067484 915475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reaching the billionth decimal digit of pi could help technologists and mathematicians because they can use the equation to create random number sequences. Random numbers are a driving force behind computer security, including everyday consumer-level protections, like in electronic banking. < 1350067500 127970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i didn't have another computer < 1350067525 135898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or didn't have a null modem cable, or something < 1350067528 694164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember exactly < 1350067554 900826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more recently i have used netconsole for this < 1350067570 222124 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can ARCFOUR be used for random number generator, though? < 1350067590 142297 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but you did have a dot matrix printer? < 1350067590 828804 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think pi is best for random number since pi is always the same for everyone. < 1350067611 684946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The question is whether your computer is fast enough to compute it farther than anyone else. < 1350067616 671289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes < 1350067627 705937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why we build supercomputers. < 1350067642 960647 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ok < 1350067652 639283 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RC4 has been used in some BSDs as (part of) a random number generator, IIRC. < 1350067660 806275 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What you have to do is to make the computer reprogram its own hardware to calculate billion digits of pi < 1350067718 12067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION likes the idea of a world where randomness is a scarce resource that has to be mined and such.
< 1350067760 591441 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: As part of? What other part did they use, then? < 1350067765 915552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the idea of people who carry one-time pad data is related. < 1350067779 796837 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, that's weird < 1350067815 157775 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://samuelhughes.com/boof/ has "If the end-of-file character has been input, outputs a zero to the bit under the pointer." as part of the description of the ; (output) instruction < 1350067819 253225 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know, that's why it was in brackets. Perhaps it was the whole thing and there were no other parts. < 1350067843 611946 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think it's just a mistake and should be part of , (input) or is it some special feature? < 1350067880 886129 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hmm... but the tricky part about one-time pad data is that you need the same randomness in two places, not that you need to collect a bunch of random? < 1350067961 230754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Right, it's not the same thing. < 1350068016 66562 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this randomscarce world of yours, would one random bit be a reasonable christmas present? < 1350068034 894818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: As it turns out, Famicom Hangman uses not only RC4 but also fails to initialize i and j (so it uses whatever happens to be in RAM at power on) and uses the microphone, and it runs several times per frame until the space-bar is pushed. < 1350068048 74058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A friend and I once collected a CD's worth of random, to be used as a one-time pad in conjunction with an irssi script. < 1350068055 769616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Only if kept it wrapped. < 1350068059 224717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, it never really got used. < 1350068095 123703 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, you unwrap it to see that it's a random bit box, then you need to open that box to use the random bit < 1350068104 741341 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It still appears to work fine even without a microphone; but it uses the microphone if it is available.) < 1350068105 558698 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be some kind of single-use electronic device too < 1350068287 278190 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Are you sure they wouldn't add microphone and that stuff to the random numbers too, if such things would be available? < 1350068291 317046 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't disclose whether it's previously used or not, does that give you another bit of random? < 1350068388 134118 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1350068475 150189 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also, what happens if you roll a dice too often in this world of yours? < 1350068484 269682 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know. < 1350068488 452989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: A die? < 1350068499 692114 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :A is an integer number of dice < 1350068512 239509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clever. < 1350068535 424982 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you need to use a dice for encryption, maybe you should use a casino dice and make sure to rull against the wall < 1350068548 522290 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :dice: the gift that keeps on giving random numbers < 1350068603 890457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe in shachaf's world the physics of dice rolling is just very easily predictable < 1350068630 739420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even in our world you can learn to throw a die to a particular side < 1350068638 210536 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, or maybe dice roll slower and slower as their random supply runs out < 1350068655 165228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read about a "quantum dice" which always rolls doubles when rolled together, but act like regular dice when thrown individually. It probably doesn't exist; they just wanted to describe it. < 1350068676 755969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe everyone knows the entire state of the world at any point. < 1350068694 90959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for the inside of their brain, which starts out deterministic but gets seeded with random data. < 1350068733 395012 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :brains are the only sources of random data? < 1350068759 379930 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouuuw I wrote exactly one fourth of the truth-machine implementations on the truth-machine page < 1350068775 957032 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is a placeholder for some kind of pun about zombies) < 1350068951 986494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remeber to go back and replace it with the actual pun some day. < 1350068952 453525 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can brains be the only sources of random data, it is like physical like anything else? It must follow the same laws, although there is possibliity to cause different results just as mathematical functions can give different outputs by the different inputs. < 1350068955 328288 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350068977 643351 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1350068998 260821 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: feel free to remind me, but I'm good at neither puns nor zombies < 1350069053 36876 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe oerjan or funpuns can fill it in later < 1350069089 141895 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I seem to recall joke #32 was about zombies < 1350069092 844356 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brains don't really depend on quantum effects for operation any more than a rock does < 1350069093 296362 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, I wonder if I should try implementing in in $current_preferred_language < 1350069111 619516 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard of that language < 1350069117 863472 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, you should < 1350069145 283628 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although most of these implementations are in esolangs < 1350069152 358582 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Well, yes, but rocks are simpler so the result is generally the same as anything. However, everything will depend on quantum effect, I think. < 1350069165 275424 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including rock. < 1350069174 543047 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That is part of my point < 1350069185 535388 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It must, since it is the same law of physics! < 1350069361 790116 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well, maybe we could add one in C in the intro < 1350069367 875208 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-27-216.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1350069379 248052 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be clearer that the current pseudo-code < 1350069417 6396 :ssue!u5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pggnfsfgxixgvpqc JOIN :#esoteric < 1350069433 996405 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about haskell < 1350069461 171412 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just write it in whatever you want; whatever is the clearest can be linked to from the intro, I suppose. < 1350069620 342679 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking C is just a bit old, therefore doesn't have some of the convieniences =P < 1350069964 380585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think also that the I/O of FurryScript is not good enough to make truth-machine since it can only make input at beginning and output at the end. Possibly with lazy evaluation it could be done, but the current implementation does not use lazy evaluation. < 1350069994 160786 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the same problem with Kipple and a couple other languages < 1350070012 925227 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Squihy2K < 1350070042 779542 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Truth-machine#Squishy2K < 1350070164 557622 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350070189 404953 :constant!~root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: I found 1 in /dev/zero < 1350070336 759462 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1350070472 447070 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1350070884 505574 :not5nick!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :boily < 1350071857 653973 :jiella!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1350072153 477368 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"] < 1350073758 287670 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1350073772 931101 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG, I just realized that it is my destiny to create a web technology called AppleJAX. < 1350074696 856138 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ ponies < 1350074782 771516 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELL < 1350074783 361656 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1350074784 401146 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :PONIES < 1350074845 115099 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: :D < 1350074947 301074 :Gregor!codu@codu.org NICK :Poniest < 1350074956 464761 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did somebody say “HELL YES PONIES”?! Yeah, I did! < 1350074969 167019 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1350075048 3894 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Several languages exist which are based on rewriting strings, the most well-known being Thue." < 1350075049 53172 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone who understands what this does gets a virtual cookie: main(){char a[256],*b,*c[256],**d;int p;while(1){write(1,"$ ",2);for(b=a;*(b-1)!='\n';b++){read(0,b,1);}*b=0;d=c;*d++=a;for(b=a;bchar a[256],*b,*c[256],**d < 1350076376 508547 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A pointer to a 256 char array < 1350076402 536071 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless I'm reading it wrong and it's a 256 array of char pointers < 1350076406 220961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's the latter < 1350076416 300650 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, nevermind then. < 1350076417 746115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cdecl> explain char *c[256] < 1350076417 952081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :declare c as array 256 of pointer to char < 1350076422 486301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 cdecl < 1350076448 46190 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should get cdecl then =P < 1350076454 148055 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: do you understand what pointers are put in c? < 1350076470 824615 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me look < 1350076477 823539 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350076478 968878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"*d=b+1;d++;" could be replaced with "*d++=b+1;" for extra obfuscation < 1350076493 607873 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. missed that for some reason < 1350076497 731788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1350076501 738569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did it somewhere else aleady < 1350076502 967680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :already < 1350076504 956840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can't type
< 1350076506 987327 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the aim is not to obfuscate < 1350076509 776238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1350076520 518237 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is just compact it < 1350076521 450373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a difference between compact code and obfuscated code < 1350076522 775271 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1350076545 660624 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could get rid of d and replace all occurences of it with c and it'd still work, right? < 1350076555 277188 :carado!~user4539@78.250.231.62 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350076562 320902 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually no < 1350076563 887268 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :char*a,b[9999];main(){gets(a=b);while(*a){a+=(b[*a]-=b[a[1]])?3:a[2];}puts(b+1);} < 1350076566 693419 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you d++; at one point < 1350076568 97748 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1350076625 200175 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Pointers to chars in a, right? < 1350076636 22040 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1350076644 633999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there is no way to exit the shell :D < 1350076644 971526 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: yes < 1350076668 801595 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives some extra points to kmc
< 1350076682 84183 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot to include that in the puzzle < 1350076689 260465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course that would be as easy as if(!read(0,b,1))return; < 1350076691 149952 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a unix shell that emulates command.com? (or cmd.exe?) < 1350076697 489072 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't you ^C =P < 1350076708 829006 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1350076719 678844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah because it doesn't do job control ;P < 1350076734 489496 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but any other way than abusing it not handling signals < 1350076918 460786 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if no one finds the buffer overflow in 10 minutes I'm going to reveal it < 1350077001 924102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that long command lines will overflow 'a', right? < 1350077007 151754 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1350077443 661781 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives kmc bonus points
< 1350077671 987603 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that was a boring one ... gets is an automatic buffer overflow < 1350077800 358448 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine has gets, not his. < 1350077888 725121 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1350078169 337633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does yours do Poniest < 1350078193 639621 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't feel like guessing, eh? X-D < 1350078203 603772 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i ran it but it wasn't particularly enlightnening < 1350078213 747222 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd need very carefully-constructed input to use it. < 1350078225 399800 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an interpreter for a TC subleq-like language. < 1350078240 391314 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it is not itself TC since the memory is fixed at 9999 bytes. < 1350078342 257453 :jiella!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1350078354 580886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a coincidence, my computer is also not turing complete :) < 1350078428 240360 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can build a turing machine by making an EC2 instance which upgrades its own storage when necessary, and also has an endowment in government bonds or something, which will eventually cover the costs of additional computation < 1350078483 355377 :carado!~user4539@78.250.231.62 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1350078502 635474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course when amazon goes out of business you are still screwed :( < 1350078577 428088 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if the machine moves to another internet fluffy weather thingy < 1350078577 720861 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how you blindly ran unreadable C code, btw. < 1350078607 249126 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok, he probably ran it as root so it couldn't touch his user data < 1350078648 336220 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nodnod* < 1350078677 46202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not unreadable < 1350078690 168011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i couldn't tell exactly what it does but i was fairly confident that it wouldn't do anything too nasty < 1350078709 125733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only system-ish calls are gets and puts < 1350078719 500855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's too simple to be constructing a nasty payload and buffer overflowing it, or anything like that < 1350078724 63145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though really < 1350078731 425899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am interested in how well you can hide these things < 1350078750 820576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to run a contest kind of like http://underhanded.xcott.com/ < 1350078753 179975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but more open-ended < 1350078945 794215 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of like ioccc but for malicious programs? < 1350078980 514843 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of, yeah < 1350078996 697946 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks that Lisps might be good for that because as far as I understand, indentation is crucial for readability, so false indentation might be able to trick readers, I think
< 1350079004 74126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the most part programs in ioccc are obviously very hard to understand < 1350079022 850782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm interested in programs which look like very straightforward implementations of one thing, but actually do some other malicious thing < 1350079028 722166 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, except that instead of inscrutable they should look harmless < 1350079030 300683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few IOCCC winners like that, though < 1350079032 720908 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1350079044 577238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's easy to make a progra < 1350079045 726664 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall some Java-like thing < 1350079045 985648 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1350079054 290893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's easy to make a program with a deliberate subtle security hole < 1350079063 925281 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not so interesting either < 1350079081 789611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's hard to delineate exactly what i'm looking for < 1350079101 315947 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :leave it to the judges? :) < 1350079106 478405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :) < 1350079153 924097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started writing up guidelines < 1350079166 107554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Your program should conceal the malicious behavior from the user for as long as possible. It's especially impressive if you can make it look like an honest mistake even after it's been uncovered.' < 1350079200 310805 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, that underhanded thing, were the submissions ever shown/judged? < 1350079204 862149 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the airline one < 1350079209 147110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1350079214 755178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think not for that iteration of the contest < 1350079219 576314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some previous years are on there though < 1350079279 471527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm particularly interested in what psychological tricks you can play to make someone shrug and say "eh, this code is probably ok" < 1350079279 594603 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the underhanded contest was a bit boring because you had to solve one specific problem and make a specific kind of malicious behavior < 1350079283 440584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1350079285 728838 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree < 1350079290 370321 :carado!~user4539@78.250.231.62 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350079539 588688 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I think this kind of program goes well in the ioccc < 1350079592 211075 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they might be surprised to get submissions that don't look obfuscated at all < 1350079626 51900 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :also might be pissed if they try your program and it does something evil < 1350079690 661172 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be just fine to /tell/ them it does something evil. < 1350079706 200711 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a way it's not similar to that submission that #defined a bunch of stuff to make Java-looking code run. < 1350079711 995487 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*not dissimilar < 1350079720 282345 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in a way, it's not similar ^^ < 1350080058 924417 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1350080098 838179 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1350080106 605097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my contest would definitely not be limited to C, though < 1350080118 544958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think a lot of different languages have a lot of different interesting ways to hide shit < 1350080156 56094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to see a LaTeX document class that steals your SSH private key < 1350080176 389226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to recover the key, the attacker has to print out the document and soak it in lemon juice < 1350080204 834650 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350080303 273175 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note that some really nasty security holes result from similar acts of syntactic cleverness. Probably the biggest example is the format specifier bug, which exists because a zillion programmers think that writing printf( string ) instead of printf( �%s�, string ) is kinda neat." < 1350080405 663050 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1350080765 901836 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I had never thought of writing printf(string) < 1350080768 791649 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you so much < 1350080785 63476 :Poniest!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1350081232 33162 :carado!~user4539@78.250.231.62 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1350081266 856808 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :first thing in gitit user's guide: "Gitit is a wiki program written in Haskell. It uses Happstack for the web server" < 1350081277 630585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause if there's anything users care most about, it's what language and web framework was used to implement the site < 1350081295 169398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gitit is pretty cool though < 1350081525 210082 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that i can download any page on my wiki as a LaTeX document, man page, or S5 slideshow < 1350081544 411424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for that "not three shits were given" presentation look < 1350081889 800993 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1350082671 482797 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it better not give you one of those LaTeX documents that steals your SSH private key < 1350082730 162535 :Poniest!codu@codu.org NICK :Gregor < 1350082733 40638 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it does. < 1350082738 278674 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the S5 presentation does. < 1350082758 777589 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION saved an idea for a rhythm in glorious General MIDI. http://heh.fi/tmp/test-20121013.midi
< 1350082780 31006 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the man page does too < 1350082873 974374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: how do i play general midi on linux again < 1350082905 997454 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: xdg-open http://heh.fi/tmp/test-20121013.midi < 1350082914 458945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1350082916 271346 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, as if that would work < 1350082918 645458 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My estimation of that working: 0% < 1350082921 120686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what player do i need to install for midis < 1350082923 581860 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worksforme™ < 1350082924 419374 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*estimated chance < 1350082931 540339 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Totem plays it on my system. < 1350082941 831328 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What’s your default media player? < 1350082945 175530 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: … do you have a hardware MIDI synth? < 1350082948 139989 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1350082967 489626 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then your distro must configure timidity or fluidsynth as an alsa server by default, I suppose. < 1350082972 629489 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1350082982 353554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft, totem < 1350082984 592860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all these modern conveniences < 1350083000 370387 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, xdg-open opened the link in my browser, upon which my browser is offering to open the file using xdg-open < 1350083014 239631 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try that < 1350083016 682649 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is not “it's magic”, ion, there exists a sequencer somewhere X_X < 1350083047 983862 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blit into the framebuffer just right and tune an AM radio to my monitor. < 1350083048 916514 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :chockingly, I don't have a midi player installed < 1350083052 833561 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: gst-launch-0.10 filesrc location=test-20121013.midi ! decodebin ! alsasink < 1350083068 742001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently i actually have gstreamer < 1350083069 213901 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Then your distro must configure timidity or fluidsynth as an alsa server by default, I suppose. < 1350083071 545903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i doubt that will work < 1350083075 404489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no midi synthesiser installed < 1350083119 838116 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This seems to be the thing it uses. /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gstreamer-0.10/libgstwildmidi.so < 1350083141 853179 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, xdg-open's list of candidates lists 11 copies of Internet Explorer < 1350083157 936577 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It came from gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad < 1350083193 884873 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wildmidi, never heard of it. Uses GUS patches though, so it's shit. < 1350083203 103870 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://codu.org/webmidi/ < 1350083206 120162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is gus < 1350083217 385765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :webmidi doesn't accept a url, worthless < 1350083232 696776 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp, and I forgot to uncheck the "always use this program" thingy, so now all midi files open with internet explorer < 1350083239 595879 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lul < 1350083294 235769 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/22676115734515/22676115734515.ogg < 1350083299 611335 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't seem to have IE installed) < 1350083368 904506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how tinny this sounds < 1350083446 183808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone remember the algorhythm thing < 1350083455 715835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo ion should generate a melody for thar rhythm with it < 1350083478 11225 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’ll generate a melody using the algorithms in my wetware. :-P < 1350083498 959817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1350083500 900231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :humans are insufficient < 1350083514 824016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing surpassed the algorhythms < 1350083526 989104 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: GUS is a well-renouned sound card from the age before such things were standard equipment built into every PC < 1350083532 388991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget what Gregor's really good one was called < 1350083535 545434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: oh gravisis < 1350083537 229194 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had buffers and samples and fancy stuff < 1350083554 921343 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://heh.fi/tmp/test-20121013.pdf < 1350083572 653691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/masterpiecemachine/mp/Onerously%20Uptight%20Toccata this one < 1350083573 695353 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Onerously Uptight Toccata. < 1350083577 439550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: please add a link that automatically webmidis it < 1350083579 909964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can listen to it < 1350083593 368619 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://codu.org/music/auto/Onerously%20Uptight%20Toccata.ogg < 1350083596 825460 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Type: Masterpiece" < 1350083599 807588 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'll bear that in mind for this weekend and/or never. < 1350083772 985581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't find the ones i made RIP < 1350083779 163141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i remember http://codu.org/masterpiecemachine/mp/Onerous%20Cake-Eating%20Festival%20Disallowment%20Barricade < 1350083783 509790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i forget what it sounds like because there's no ogg link < 1350083809 608316 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Womp womp. < 1350083831 250044 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :First world too-lazy-to-just-download-it-then-upload-it-to-webmidi problems. < 1350083853 490604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/228332553116545/228332553116545.ogg doesn't work < 1350083860 857405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/228332553116545/ < 1350083869 873831 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I can't figure out why, as I'm at work, so nya ^^ < 1350083874 279374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/228332553116545/log.txt < 1350083876 392177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you can there's a log < 1350083883 339714 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1350083889 208145 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh < 1350083893 496671 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an unhelpful log ^^´ < 1350083964 699435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm trying with chorium < 1350083966 976884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's stuck as "queued" < 1350083971 977485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/2288519420303/ < 1350084008 905065 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The queue isn't based on webmidi submissions, it's based on system load. < 1350084021 228473 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Webmidi is always prioritized lower than… just about everything else :) < 1350084036 568271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now it finished and spat out a 0 second file < 1350084042 192521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuk this < 1350084076 939891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this "Roe v_ Wade As An Analogy For Temperature" one is mine < 1350084114 99598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: btw fluidsynth: warning: Failed to pin the sample data to RAM; swapping is possible. < 1350084115 125116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems bad < 1350084127 38624 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's irrelevant for rendering to a file. < 1350084143 379881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/22981154128959/22981154128959.ogg this is amazing < 1350084144 771143 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And infrequently an issue even for live playback. < 1350084189 852722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this may be the best thing i have ever made < 1350084234 10184 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you didn't even make it. < 1350084235 850896 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tsk tsk* < 1350084256 954514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure i did < 1350084486 710557 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A couple weeks ago I drove by a place called “Beverages and More”. I thought to myself, “what a bizarre niche”, and drove on. < 1350084499 105144 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I realized, of COURSE a place called “Beverages and More” would have Moxie. < 1350084508 443377 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In retrospect, I am a fool :'( < 1350084524 324924 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in prospect, I will soon have Moxie! < 1350084546 119372 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: your .ogg file sounds like it runs four times too fast < 1350084578 367933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: maybe you run four times too slow < 1350084582 354854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about this http://codu.org/webmidi/gen/23051228304267/23051228304267.ogg < 1350084639 99725 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also four~five times too fast < 1350084648 877547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna go with you being too slow on this one < 1350084651 164704 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might be something wrong with my player < 1350084698 483382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does http://codu.org/music/auto/Onerously%20Uptight%20Toccata.ogg sound too fast < 1350084702 75981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's meant to be 160 bpm) < 1350084731 362580 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1350084754 356676 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not just the sound - my player actually displays the time and every second it's incremented by 4 or 5 < 1350085904 444141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Any talk of extracting the interesting part of mosh into a library? < 1350086302 436416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people talk of it, yes < 1350086309 275692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "the interesting part" do you mean the state sync protocol? < 1350086324 60808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1350086368 496093 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it is already sort of a library < 1350086381 109945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lives in its own directory in the mosh source tree < 1350086387 228645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has a reasonably clean if completely undocumented interface