< 1349913637 585836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I have a feeling "CPS" is the way to go here < 1349913645 289431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, inside-out loop programming < 1349913647 789192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's TC at all < 1349913664 346541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd expect it to be just because it isn't obviously sub-TC < 1349913714 820905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see < 1349913724 656615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use alternating elements of the tape as two counters < 1349913740 495104 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can increment them, the problem is decrement and zero test < 1349913804 69403 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to decrement, you'd need to find one end of the counter, then overwrite it with a 0 < 1349913821 498772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is if the counter is actually 0, you'd just spend forever trying to find the end < 1349913828 280390 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you had a reliable inverted while, and I'm not sure you do < 1349913858 216692 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349913865 376624 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1349915468 761735 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-118-50.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1349916886 527347 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1349917420 963663 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1349917583 483809 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349918080 551822 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349918626 424063 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1349918669 828950 :hagb4rd!~perdito@p4FED4F2B.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1349920113 379047 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1349920138 354257 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349921040 515221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1349924536 247722 :hagb4rd!~perdito@p4FED4F2B.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349924973 177332 :hagb4rd!~perdito@p4FED4F2B.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1349925072 11315 :Wntrvnm!~operator@exovenom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349925341 19203 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db43995.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349925427 950398 :TeruFSX_!~quassel@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349925643 431667 :TeruFSX_!~quassel@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349925667 853723 :TeruFSX_!~quassel@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349926754 806052 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db43995.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1349927276 979294 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349927434 226603 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-31-108.singnet.com.sg JOIN :#esoteric < 1349927553 798049 :TeruFSX_!~quassel@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349927572 270510 :TeruFSX_!~quassel@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349929814 753254 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1349934191 886170 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1349935224 400065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 22:59 A new lambdabot isn't cool. You know what's cool? A new (U+E9278)bot. < 1349935276 821990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kelvinbot is the coolest bot < 1349935539 629120 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero kelvin bot. :3 < 1349935560 580377 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing that was the pun he was going for < 1349935583 388099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner the psychic < 1349935584 269636 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but it is more solidified cool. < 1349935596 553413 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zerokelvinbot < 1349935659 176005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people want solid zero kelvin puns, but i say the helium < 1349935680 701378 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you say the helium? < 1349935717 477107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Save the helium. < 1349935738 694836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the helium deficit is simply ballooning < 1349935768 31498 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other things is helium used for, really? < 1349935793 373803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooling. MR machines. < 1349935820 339786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad science. < 1349935934 325865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :diving < 1349935940 103167 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should be doing more mad science < 1349935985 860312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :((more mad) science) or (more (mad science))? < 1349936006 609954 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously both < 1349936036 227200 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :also more science, so I have some science to put the mad in < 1349936042 848007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :{more (mad} science) < 1349936431 330204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :More ((more mad) science). < 1349936439 590625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :More, more, I'm still not satisfied! < 1349937892 236885 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1349938179 132854 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1349938292 170377 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349940287 95651 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1349942018 878192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: See you in a few days if I survive < 1349942179 68140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1349942229 985748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just realized I probably shouldn't imply that I expect not to survive hospital :P < 1349942232 138385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit < 1349942258 320228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The examples in the end of http://mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.com/2010/10/quantification-in-haskell.html aren't actually monoids (1/"foo" aren't identities). < 1349942289 984507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether that was meant to imply that Something was equivalent to SomeMonoid. < 1349943561 126645 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349944204 398917 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349944666 841923 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1349945839 696342 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1349947098 17201 :jiella!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349948783 962907 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1349948793 382042 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-114-33.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349948839 914134 :Kosnik!~kosnik@14.139.56.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349948870 708066 :Kosnik!~kosnik@14.139.56.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone solve this riddle < 1349949161 600570 :Kosnik!~kosnik@14.139.56.162 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1349949194 950141 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anyone can. < 1349949207 254775 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :A homotopy lattice on elliptic curve residues. < 1349949290 724338 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you solved it. < 1349949341 329509 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :theproofistrivial.com < 1349952921 282209 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1349953345 508800 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-5.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1349953757 968126 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1349953776 969615 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1349954907 533760 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1349955702 33225 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1349955947 881812 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1349956152 355215 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timeout: 256 seconds < 1349964413 967656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: How was it you said how to convert GPT to MBR? < 1349964421 801547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION 's system has been all too stable the past few days. < 1349965043 509550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Why isn't there a castStableName :: StableName a -> StableName b -> a -> Maybe b? < 1349965204 63568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I guess castStableName :: StableName a -> StableName b -> p a -> Maybe (p b) is better. < 1349965228 648831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Implementation is Just through unsafeCoerce if (==).) < 1349965298 815347 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-126.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1349965819 939279 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349967536 722126 :ogrom!~nask@gprs-inet-65-126.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1349967936 434038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1349967969 414347 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1349968695 782209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349969610 754968 :ogrom!~nask@gprs-inet-65-126.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: begone < 1349970741 174952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: To annoy you. :-( < 1349970788 584412 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349970806 780586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Doesn't it annoy you too? < 1349970827 451245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never wanted that function. < 1349970858 943517 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349970860 835073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It lets you do observable sharing, see? < 1349970862 499660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And other things. < 1349970866 501854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's useful with existential types and stuff. < 1349970876 743697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349970888 925307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :StableNames are for people who horse around while they're programming. < 1349970994 969001 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1349971250 594289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think you should kick shachaf for that. < 1349971307 859487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/xvpx funpuns < 1349972356 307697 :Wntrvnm!~operator@exovenom.net QUIT :Quit: Stopping ZNC Daemon... [DONE] - http://github.com/Wintervenom < 1349972412 558900 :Wntrvnm!~operator@exovenom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349972648 735235 :mean!~this@188.214.33.238 QUIT : < 1349972726 879193 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1349973082 899254 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that pun took a while to spot < 1349973154 953425 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1349973254 384310 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349973273 5283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349973276 213938 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1349974079 435734 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1349975969 318599 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1349976085 620894 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which pun? < 1349976142 620287 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, even well-known libraries like Incanter sometimes feel like they were written by Clojure newbies < 1349976176 390858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1349977437 586269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: How many cores were in that machine you were talking about at ksplice? < 1349977476 656146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :48 < 1349977505 749421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :four sockets, each with one of AMD's "Magny-Cours" processors < 1349977519 326401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: More like kscheisse, right? < 1349977537 174356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magny-Cours is French for Many-Cores < 1349977539 692874 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are sold as 12-core processors but are actually two six-core processors in a multi-chip module < 1349977553 72622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for example, each socket has 2 NUMA domains and 2 L3 caches) < 1349977575 190099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 L3 caches? That's like an L6 cache! < 1349977583 528512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, right? < 1349977595 83014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I feel like you don't appreciate my jokes. < 1349977604 38275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is elliott < 1349977609 616487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the joke < 1349977653 929097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did Ksplice need with 48 cores? < 1349977675 336891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Hey, you're a joke. < 1349977686 255080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: building kernels < 1349977690 646755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc??? "No it isn't okay!!!" - mc < 1349977700 715985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly I burned you instead.......... < 1349977704 586821 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true that this work could be distributed across multiple machines < 1349977706 304688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it feel < 1349977717 72242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we did the biggest batch builds on EC2 spot instances < 1349977766 964176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in general it's easier to manage one machine, and one build script that runs on one machine < 1349977955 514213 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we built the most parallel single machine we could using parts that are still vaguely commodity PC hardware < 1349977996 585253 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what ksplice < 1349978012 879545 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works up to a point. < 1349978086 376996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically we decided the price premium of one integrated super beefy machine versus four reasonably beefy machines was less than the value of engineering effort to make the existing build scripts run in a distributed fashion < 1349978109 166420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or the engineering effort of making a local distributed setup that looks like EC2 enough to reuse the EC2 build scripts, which also had various problems) < 1349978140 540126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this being a 12 person company and not someone like Google or Oracle with huge teams devoted to building and managing distributed systems < 1349978145 391597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making build scripts distributed is more trouble than you might think. < 1349978152 417436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you take Hofstadter's law into account. < 1349978178 413926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was pretty pleased with myself when i added distributed work to the script to re-encode my music library as ogg vorbis < 1349978997 269945 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1349979166 822039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :building a ksplice update involves building the distribution's kernel using exactly their configuration and toolchain, then applying your patch and building it again < 1349979184 631288 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1349979187 128379 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mena < 1349979190 208467 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :mean* < 1349979192 566902 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what for? < 1349979208 37950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do get to use make's incremental build, but it still takes a fair amount of time < 1349979222 959324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to do this separately for each version of the base kernel the user booted into < 1349979226 807235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: do you know what ksplice is < 1349979426 198625 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :some < 1349979431 272885 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux kernel extension? < 1349979436 568171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1349979447 528971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more of a Windows NT kernel extension. < 1349979457 14632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a technology for applying linux kernel updates to a running system, without rebooting or disrupting any processes < 1349979470 994050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that ksplice. < 1349979479 927305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is ksplice dead? :-( < 1349979488 307165 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1349979491 449340 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and? < 1349979492 815593 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i worked for the company that developed this technology, and sold an updates service based around it < 1349979500 58141 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :until that company was bought by oracle < 1349979510 86257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it is a feature of oracle linux premium support, but i don't work there anymore < 1349979518 802543 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1349979532 922004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway ksplice works by comparing the compiled object files of the pre- and post-patch kernels < 1349979548 160808 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why you need to compile the kernel exactly as the distribution did < 1349979560 976149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need a special kernel to apply ksplice updates < 1349979595 871275 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :then wikipedia is wrong < 1349979596 821851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had customers who had not rebooted their machines since before ksplice was created, and yet they could apply rebootless updates < 1349979609 138703 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty smart < 1349979617 986078 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Using Ksplice does not require any preparation before the system is originally booted (the running kernel does not need to have been specially compiled, for example)' < 1349979626 737799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does wikipedia contradict this somewhere else? < 1349979637 847197 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ksplice is an open source[2] extension of the Linux kernel " < 1349979642 247112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1349979644 22152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is open source < 1349979647 637085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i added that citation < 1349979652 165123 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not an extension? < 1349979673 721999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :each update is a linux kernel module < 1349979680 569417 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1349979683 872664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually, a few kernel modules) < 1349979692 896797 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems valid to call kernel modules "extensions" < 1349979714 620084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it is possible to build a kernel that has the core ksplice technology built in (or, it was possible at one point, anyway) but we did not expect our customers to have done so < 1349979728 606648 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349979731 439142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we expected our customers to be using standard precompiled kernels from red hat, ubuntu, debian, etc. < 1349979794 748453 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, that's pretty nifty < 1349979812 422155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it is really cool tech :) < 1349979867 864220 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you one of the founders? < 1349979871 614484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1349979877 902766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i joined only 8 months before the company was acquired < 1349979970 998812 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1349979972 927934 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure it was a nice job < 1349979982 55890 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacking this stuff < 1349979987 235093 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349979990 371758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1349979992 374874 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was really fun < 1349980009 41730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was kinda bummed when we got acquired by compuglobalhypermegacorp < 1349980021 152627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i made a decent amount of money off it < 1349980021 672234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349980113 126696 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the best part usually < 1349980133 535636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Money is overrated. < 1349980155 727733 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nice to have some extra < 1349980221 782674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess money is overrated < 1349980232 707347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the value of having money is that you can adopt the attitude "money is overrated" < 1349980239 599072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't have money then it does not seem overrated < 1349980244 204515 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were times < 1349980256 592432 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :tthat i was an uneployed student < 1349980271 586016 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and couldn't afford bread < 1349980274 548229 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :once :D < 1349980291 503982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do feel like my quality of life does not change much past some fairly low income level, but that level is still very high by global standards < 1349980293 924156 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing too bad - but it was an important experience < 1349980295 330391 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1349980304 552843 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes students can get free food :) < 1349980305 396213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Money is overrated beyond a certain point, I mean. < 1349980348 207920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but money saved is also more time you don't have to work later < 1349980360 488660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and longer you can survive without getting a job in the future < 1349980364 906115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm just trying to convince myself. < 1349980368 572056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can also give it to someone who needs it more < 1349980405 136999 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like having some cash buffer < 1349980427 604098 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a matter of < 1349980455 705652 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :not worrying about the small stuff < 1349980483 337288 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot even focus if you fear that you won't be able to pay rent < 1349980489 437841 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1349980598 540338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1349980604 696817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1349980622 967650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :being poor is expensive < 1349980658 920165 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're poor you can't afford the time or equipment to cook at home, can't buy food or anything else in bulk < 1349980674 266975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor people in rich countries eat lots of terrible cheap fast food < 1349980682 486499 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1349980689 22630 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i live in Poland < 1349980692 177887 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's like < 1349980707 342881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're poor you probably spend a lot of your time on transit getting from your house in the middle of nowhere to various jobs < 1349980719 694436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically being poor is expensive and exhausting < 1349980726 46013 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :majority of ppl earn from 600 to 1200 bucks < 1349980728 759718 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1349980734 24671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are poor people in Poland fat or thin? < 1349980739 573177 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and gas is like 2 bucks per litre < 1349980742 900688 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think poland is rich enough that the poor people should be fat but i'm not sure < 1349980747 909853 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :bread is 1 buck < 1349980768 772259 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :dinner in a decent restaurant is 20-30 bucks < 1349980781 514495 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :beer in a pub 2-4 < 1349980803 979204 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest ona 55sqm flat is 400-600 < 1349980825 190777 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: thin :D < 1349980920 383347 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :living here is quire expensive when you look at the earnings < 1349980944 1341 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think living in london is cheaper, provided that you work for pounds < 1349980983 666597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha wow < 1349980987 434645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where in poland are you? < 1349980998 562957 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poznań < 1349981036 119701 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1349981047 595394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was in poland briefly in august < 1349981051 298733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't make it that far west though < 1349981068 807567 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :where have you been? < 1349981070 781564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's crazy how much housing prices differ by area < 1349981094 992662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my parents have a nice big four bedroom house in suburban iowa and I think their mortgage is about the same per month that I pay to rent one bedroom in cambridge massachusetts < 1349981112 441494 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1349981149 892725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was in kraków and warszawa < 1349981172 376269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and surrounding areas < 1349981172 883269 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :kraków is nice and warszawa is awful < 1349981179 833642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1349981183 77372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kinda what i thought too < 1349981192 18858 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :west > east :D < 1349981204 410415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw the wieliczka salt mine < 1349981206 287250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was really cool < 1349981215 60129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has never been to .pl. < 1349981249 243795 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, been there too < 1349981412 527881 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has never been to USA < 1349981426 676581 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm working on fixing that < 1349981434 121421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, where will you go? < 1349981435 726807 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been to two salt mines. Wieliczka and Bochnia < 1349981469 264793 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :san francisco, sv < 1349981494 347222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: That's the place to be! < 1349981496 108548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So I hear.) < 1349981503 28463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sv? < 1349981527 696812 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :sillicon valley :D < 1349981531 557940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1349981535 235161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :san francisco is really nice < 1349981540 535212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SV not so much. < 1349981549 962653 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm working on some tech for language pattern recognition and I was invited < 1349981555 973865 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :silicon valley is south of there and I don't think there's much to see if you don't have friends working there < 1349981558 864643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, cool < 1349981565 585640 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :our guys have founded a company there < 1349981567 53171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few interesting computery museums down that way < 1349981577 863561 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i'm waiting for :D < 1349981617 826228 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1349981618 171228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote luite optic < 1349981618 653795 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :luite says: I'm really interested in both practice and theory of optics and wave mechanics, so I'll be coming over from Europe for Edward's lecture on lenses and transversals. < 1349981626 982819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's next week! < 1349981636 273780 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1349981647 477282 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello guys! just taking a break from here.. just joined by muscle memory since i join all rooms manually < 1349981688 148324 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :muscle memory huh? :D < 1349981747 634250 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw. I wonder when was the first time I joined this fine channel < 1349981758 659028 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :something around... uh... 2005? < 1349981890 689319 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the the most interesting thing i have been trying to do is to take a bitmap which could be viewed as an image in black and white, and compress it into colours < 1349981903 194300 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2004-12-23 10:04:58] -!- VonTroba is now known as nooga < 1349981910 376659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to my logs. < 1349981949 659586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a join just 17 seconds before. < 1349981964 105085 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks fizzie < 1349981969 94949 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm curious in such things as to whether it's possible for human brain to learn to see simple shapes as colours < 1349981983 870476 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean the opposite < 1349982017 680974 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1349982044 18817 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :one particularly interesting part is that only the edges of things really change colours < 1349982065 296900 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you provide an example? < 1349982080 51123 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill show my paint image.. its a bit ridiculous < 1349982283 858118 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1349982393 79857 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's this http://oi49.tinypic.com/35hlsh0.jpg < 1349982480 30696 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: Can you do better than 8 pixels per byte raw B&W data? < 1349982727 767888 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm.. my theory is that using 2 or 3 bits per pixel like that that it would be possible to learn to watch objects move by changing colour < 1349982763 309770 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :beyond that, it was just a weird idea i had to try < 1349982810 236897 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess even in black and white objects move by changing colour < 1349982870 236443 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 24bits it could represent 16 million patterns per pixel of course < 1349983191 404074 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1349983235 856016 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :definately human brain can comprehend that < 1349983339 642621 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the human brain is like smart < 1349983408 292299 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking about the way resolution affects the number of frames in an animation < 1349983415 752456 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i ended up on that .. < 1349983504 343471 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be honest i think images compressed by colour would be nightmare fuel < 1349983707 344980 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/hakin9/nmap.html lfmao < 1349983773 141046 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Furthermore, we reduced the effective tape drive throughput of our stochastic overlay network. Similarly, we tripled the effective floppy disk space of our Internet-2 overlay network." < 1349983870 681297 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1349984152 686716 :Wntrvnm!~operator@exovenom.net QUIT :Quit: Stopping ZNC Daemon... [DONE] - http://github.com/Wintervenom < 1349984331 360660 :Wntrvnm!~operator@exovenom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349984438 502368 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:_j0_-BRo0MAJ:raisama.net/ufpr/tg/paper.pdf+&hl=pl&gl=pl&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESivOHOM_O0aEfZ-Wn_XOroe2qgQBYM2XLaGHn75VcvILppGL9BrWLyhX124vxLTxQJL3_GNMAAqhrdoUN-Qv_VkT78Utvb8edLqnMQ8EBlOrDS1QlLt6h8HooGIqL9AppSDbZun&sig=AHIEtbRjm2-pxwjJXi3NaH-FXk2vqaZPyQ LULZ < 1349984725 284424 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349985082 364891 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-223-177.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349985402 651578 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349985528 858375 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349986166 51682 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349987455 78155 :jiella!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1349987795 974376 :jiella!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349988113 840154 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349988120 117562 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1349988120 655670 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1349988125 497826 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1349988149 585833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell atriq BOO. < 1349988150 527506 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1349988954 817652 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massagas < 1349988955 520014 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any new messages. < 1349989372 481125 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1349989690 892015 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, I've missed you! < 1349989691 615659 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1349989822 587790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask atriq good hello < 1349989823 359564 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1349989858 695358 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My god < 1349989859 339785 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1349989860 336046 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're right < 1349989870 32106 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've replaced the "Hello" with a different hello < 1349989876 650319 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clear-messages < 1349989877 194716 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared. < 1349989882 698737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1349989888 867825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1349990614 47559 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a term for the restriction of brainfuck where comments and whitespace aren't allowed? < 1349991008 975979 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's called ++++++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++>+><<<<-]>.>++.<-.++++++++.+++++.--------.>+++.<---.++++++++.>>----. < 1349991171 852044 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349991607 822176 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349991917 585 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight, everyone < 1349991917 936864 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1349993443 358794 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349994628 128828 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :branfuck < 1349994666 670765 :jiella!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1349994668 919436 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hot. < 1349994711 49587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :branfuck has 800% your daily recommended allowance of dietary fiber < 1349994764 886948 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :When absorbed via the penis, that's about 80%! < 1349994776 639639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's over 9000% < 1349995221 997435 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :borp < 1349995603 258282 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349995741 733479 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349995913 906029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: more like dietary fuckber < 1349995943 38084 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349995978 233155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckbear? < 1349996178 717397 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric: From any topic to gay porn in three steps or less. < 1349996386 736706 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems like an abusable property. < 1349996436 780760 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, say, next time someone needs to fill a gay porn folder. < 1349996437 628234 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1349996484 200482 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no pikhq < 1349996490 997628 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick out your own gay porn < 1349996493 89020 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be lazy < 1349997302 124740 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But lazy is what I do best < 1349998974 952479 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1349999162 476866 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1349999194 261949 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1349999359 65160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1349999436 768445 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Excess Flood < 1349999499 651170 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1349999519 376159 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-186-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION WTFs at Ōgami < 1349999741 842108 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric