< 1349049848 245705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has been known to associate with certain ... identities. sometimes while commuting. < 1349049905 29093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is also suspected of distribution, although we have no firm evidence < 1349049983 607652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we simply had to bust this ring. < 1349049993 942828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm sure you'll be abel to come up with something. < 1349050017 49536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/kick oerjan < 1349050083 658581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If you manage to join their secret meet, you'll have a field day. < 1349050113 759038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't lattice get _all_ out of hand, now < 1349051044 537912 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349051737 228746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn wikipedia front page is knocking monads < 1349051823 8479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kick oerjan < 1349051847 533961 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are impossible for humans to understand < 1349051884 184910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: is the joke that that's bullshit < 1349051929 632586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt: Lumpio- reveals himself to be soundnfury in disguise < 1349051948 139487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is ok because we have kmc here to argue with tedious morons who say bullshit about haskell < 1349051950 655980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is his job < 1349051951 805199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good old kmc < 1349052042 914248 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The joke is that it's the truth < 1349052058 434037 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Developers should stick to well-established and easily understandable industry-standard design patterns < 1349052086 953013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: are you really this stupid hahahahahahahahaha < 1349052110 971636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way that last sentence wasn't a joke < 1349052115 431045 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it you have never experienced working in the enterprise. < 1349052128 346324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok yeah you are obviously just bullshitting at this point < 1349052172 359469 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :We do not take kindly to propeller-cap wearing kids trying to replace our proven practice COBOL systems with their new fancy schmancy C or Haskell or whateveritis these days < 1349052186 332117 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no way you're not joking < 1349052186 527376 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1349052196 611139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well obviously by now < 1349052200 558124 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so please stop!!! < 1349052210 560343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we clearly is missing a language called whateveritis < 1349052214 371141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*are < 1349052214 565553 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would *you* have your stock transactions go through a "monad"? < 1349052221 428373 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I for one wouldn't. < 1349052236 882867 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody likes your joke stop it you're hurting our joke feelings < 1349052249 939238 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know this because i conducted a joke meeting < 1349052255 386823 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we all agreed your joke is bad < 1349052255 777135 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Punched tape has worked perfectly fine for the last eleven decades and it's not going anywhere. < 1349052258 493174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke consortium < 1349052259 921714 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬u¬ < 1349052262 953175 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1349052268 900151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke council handing down joke fines < 1349052275 139083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke sentencing of joke jailtime < 1349052285 79933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :people get joke arrested and go to joke prison < 1349052288 331049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but prison is no joke < 1349052290 323860 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be sure to file an advance application the next time I feel like making a joke < 1349052302 741713 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...in punched tape form < 1349052335 644393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke council accepts only .rtf < 1349052379 504897 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not .docx!? < 1349052543 366658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :docx uses monads < 1349052620 31972 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been years since I've last seen an rtf < 1349052626 309522 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not even a year since I've seen docx < 1349052679 619421 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this means rtf is better??? < 1349052724 760235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's because geocities died and took all the rtfs with it : ( < 1349053410 116177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pumpkin jokes.pdf < 1349053419 862102 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1349054036 411586 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349055132 53591 :jiella!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1349056641 776873 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice thing about punched tape is it's human readable < 1349056665 834189 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-16-111.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349056666 400996 :augur_!~augur@c-69-250-16-111.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349056676 124416 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :^without electricity < 1349056714 84451 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, you just know that any year now the property of technology that doesn't need electricity will become important for some reason < 1349056831 626712 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1349056857 720324 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bec isn't supposed to lose his sword like that I think < 1349056988 2700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dies_the_Fire hth < 1349058422 99122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1349058814 225225 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1349058865 358337 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a mysterious worldwide event that suddenly alters physical laws so that electricity, gunpowder, and most other forms of high-energy-density technology no longer work." just because < 1349059032 60112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that possible? I doubt it. Anyways, even if such things is possible, it may be a "universewide" event, not just the worldwide event. < 1349059339 579267 :augur_!~augur@c-69-250-16-111.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349059393 394639 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-16-111.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349059438 919058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't have to be possible to be a good sci-fi premise < 1349059528 366080 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but even in sci-fi, maybe it should be apply for universe, possibly other thing in universe also goes wrong later they realized later on < 1349059971 245994 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-16-111.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349060228 475882 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-16-111.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349060627 188476 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :a special goo was invented such that an animal's form interpolates with the last animal it was in contact with < 1349060680 713023 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you think about it, thats quite an impressive backstory to spin to account for anthropomorphic turtles < 1349061077 529396 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translation shuffle from "once upon a time he said riddle me this." to "Time, he said to me once when this mystery." < 1349061666 786456 :TeruFSX_!~quassel@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349062330 611724 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-16-111.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349063498 939097 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1349066244 679468 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I convert double to HWND type in C? < 1349066356 411614 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1349066366 537220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle Double -> HWND < 1349066366 862099 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: Unknown type HWND < 1349066367 56868 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unsafe.Coerce unsafeCoerce :: a -> b < 1349066367 57066 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.OldException throwDyn :: Typeable exception => exception -> b < 1349066385 352675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Warning: unknown type, but why not try unsafeCoerce anyway?" < 1349066420 156402 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean in C, not in Haskell. < 1349066479 427657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one of those cases where I say something which is not 100% a serious suggestion < 1349066528 341741 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349066541 189067 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to make a DLL in MinGW? < 1349066582 756752 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1349066629 495713 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like g_hWnd=(HWND)(int)hwnd; seems to compile at least, but I don't know if it is correct, and it won't link, maybe I need some switch to tell it to make DLL? < 1349066780 203784 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried -Wl,--export-all-symbols -Wl,--dll but it doesn't work. < 1349066833 565781 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1349066980 560121 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it works now.... < 1349067050 434389 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you know a program that converts formatted text to .txt by wrapping italics in // and underlines in __ etc < 1349067130 835542 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't know, but what file format is the input in? < 1349067169 774177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is formatted text < 1349067177 191650 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares? pdf, html, rtf? < 1349067188 712524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well presumably you care since you wanted a program for it :P < 1349067197 840916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are html to markdown converters < 1349067205 867578 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'd like to know if it exists for any format < 1349067206 280329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf. http://milianw.de/projects/markdownify/ < 1349067243 372554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: pandoc can convert stuff to markdown < 1349067265 98359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :html and latex in particular < 1349067274 317736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it's not, like, a full implementation of the TeX macro engine < 1349067358 706243 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1349067732 331500 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: 6am < 1349069544 362617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349073532 379281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349073547 844026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349073727 807283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How good is ARCFOUR as just a random number generator? < 1349075738 65662 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349076534 739836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349077273 388193 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349077285 829370 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-22-26.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1349077291 638447 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-22-26.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1349077336 822024 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's better than RANDU. < 1349077587 736430 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone go to the magic prerelease < 1349077619 767716 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1349077664 315835 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I picked the Azorius guild < 1349077779 330849 :dajfsa!~dajfsa@95.149.243.112 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1349078394 240015 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349082116 705143 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349082596 644074 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349083648 396750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349086053 787298 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349086093 199025 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349086108 739399 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349086908 475914 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1349086945 403062 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1349087219 915087 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349088041 617266 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1349089696 607625 :barts!~barts@87.174.170.247 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349089876 857866 :barts_!~barts@p57AEBCE6.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1349090577 736511 :jiella!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349091056 388064 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1349091584 601012 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349091611 593157 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1349093165 411325 :heroux_!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1349093428 913281 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1349094001 542118 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349094658 482128 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey sgeo < 1349094689 635836 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349094744 939992 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1349094841 222179 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree < 1349094857 521375 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my tutor did his phd with ian stewart WHAT SAY YOU < 1349094911 64224 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say I know why you're mentioning Ian Stewart to me, you are curious what my reaction is. < 1349094949 208192 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such insight < 1349095001 627555 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see if I can find the quote < 1349095002 585373 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would've said something irrelevant that fact is to me, but actually I'M VERY JEALOUS < 1349095042 195604 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's nothing < 1349095058 574745 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a guy at UW who did his PhD under Hawking < 1349095103 157833 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Page 435 is not part of this book preview" < 1349095116 386590 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm annoyed, since it now seems very likely that that's the exact page I want < 1349095153 200540 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why, what's on it < 1349095213 399443 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The part where there's an advertisement screaming something like "Supersymmetric Sisters!" or something like that, very uncomfortably reminiscent of quantum mechanics quackery < 1349095262 539047 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds more like porn than physics to me :/ < 1349095262 733899 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not at all convinced that the best approach to equality is "Hey! In some invisible dimensions, we actually have more sides than the men" < 1349095299 184924 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, that wasn't the exact concept, but something similar to it < 1349095306 507120 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Number of symmatries I think < 1349095325 502096 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in other words symmetry is entirely relevant < 1349095374 216507 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he had coffee with terry pratchett once < 1349095379 436480 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was 'surprisingly normal' < 1349095396 517251 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think maybe trying to push for equality based on the idea that number of symmetries is irrelevent is better than "technically, we're better" < 1349095498 415371 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was in the same room as hawking once is what say I < 1349095523 163226 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont have the same galactic scale as i coppro < 1349095524 271656 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, *I* see prof. (em.) Kohonen here every now and then! Uh... I guess that's not terribly impressive, he's maybe not exactly a household name. < 1349095551 97331 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for i can claim to have been on the same planet as hawking, and there are billions more planets than there are rooms! < 1349095580 335000 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/OkbGc.jpg < 1349095603 720075 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only that, but i managed to be alive at the same time as hawking! out of the ~14b yrs the universe has existed and at least that much more it will go on < 1349095611 232334 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna puke < 1349095623 82928 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not for reasons relevant to this conversation) < 1349095689 859028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"at least that much more it will go on" not if I have something to say about that! ...er, nothing. < 1349095811 601965 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-12.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1349096158 502393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1349096189 923498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: PROFESSOR KOHONEN?!??!?!?! < 1349096192 871876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Tell him he's my hero. < 1349096200 173914 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1349096226 653130 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell him he's a mangy frua < 1349096693 186815 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so I wanted to add a possibility for subroutines in Kipple, but I did not want to add new syntaxes < 1349096708 627552 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made it so that stacks are executable, but that doesn't sound like Kipple at all < 1349096800 578041 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw something about that. It's not all *that* far off, really. < 1349096866 770014 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I didn't write down what it meant to execute a stack exactly - for instance, should it be parsed already? or can it still contain whitespace and numbers expressed as multiple digits? < 1349096926 346777 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should just include a way to define and call functions... but as I said I don't really like the idea of new syntax - I'd like everything to use stacks < 1349096953 579184 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe I should make functions, and include a special "call stack" < 1349097064 145413 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(isn't there already a language that allows to access its call stack?) < 1349097227 645500 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349097349 715276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth, at least. If a bit unportably. < 1349097545 591523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/XMOh -- nasty, eh? < 1349098440 617151 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://sprunge.us/SDDP < 1349098450 408922 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking the call stack doesn't add anything useful, actually < 1349098785 52188 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the entire purpose of humans existing is to have a species which does things that do not make any sense whatsoever from a biological standpoint < 1349098808 582761 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1349098835 287029 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the whole point.. thats why the earth is not free of humans < 1349098842 849969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good observation itidus21 < 1349098943 776866 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are a species which spends most of it's time seeking states of intoxication and laughter < 1349098986 661094 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when not doing that we try to travel along roads at 300miles an hour just because we can < 1349099033 245373 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes and porn.. < 1349099050 962593 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you think other species don't do that? < 1349099052 451013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "we" do you mean "me" < 1349099073 698579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: i am actually fairly confident other species do not drive on roads at 300 mph just because they can < 1349099092 635858 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i pulled 300mph mostly out of hte air < 1349099244 884943 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1349099264 29312 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :by analyzing bits and pieces of the universe it can seem to make sense, but taking everything as one thing, it can only be some kind of joke < 1349099300 270950 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you've read that egg thing? < 1349099385 79943 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you ask an infinite number of "why?" questions, in the limit you find "for a joke" < 1349099434 591999 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know what in the limit means... < 1349099436 80304 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1349099444 708872 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :im heavily borrowing idioms < 1349099452 351784 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1349099454 508074 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349099539 484208 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1349099639 696758 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should make a bot that does that... "I love chocolate" "Why do you love chocolat?" "because it tastes good" "Why does it taste good?" "because there is cocoa in it "Why is there cocoa in it?" and so on < 1349099724 184190 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :"why did the chicken cross the road?" "to get to the other side" < 1349099751 55050 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why get to the other side?" < 1349099774 519002 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BECAUSE GRASS IS GREENER < 1349099800 389905 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: its true < 1349099812 567784 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least i would like to think it's a joke < 1349099823 201359 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi coppro < 1349099833 471668 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1349099870 465991 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why, has the universe been bullying you? < 1349099931 402321 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :facebook is somewhat of a joke < 1349100078 521924 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha! facebook! good oone! < 1349100455 289996 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349100571 948277 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1349100625 852140 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "we" i do basically mean "me" < 1349100648 252699 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-12.elisa.ee PRIVMSG #esoteric :how humble you < 1349100769 409288 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i am a species which spends most of its time seeking states of intoxication and laughter" < 1349100776 495844 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're my kind of species itidus < 1349101240 91426 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For some time, Gell-Mann was undecided on an actual spelling for the term he intended to coin, until he found the word quark in James Joyce's book Finnegans Wake" < 1349101246 840242 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1349101273 841137 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see you've been reading the wiki article on quarks < 1349101288 119798 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :only that part < 1349101289 877707 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did so also fairly recently < 1349101315 619990 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i found that part < 1349101366 972136 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be a better story if it went < 1349101403 745026 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :my plan was to say: i am tempted to say i wonder what would happen if there were no electrons. but then it would mean there were no quarks, but then i pondered saying no particles, but quarks were particles < 1349101410 637602 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gell-Mann was undecided on an actual spelling for the term he intended to coin, until he saw an episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine featuring everyone's favorite Ferengi" < 1349101413 366743 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i wonder what would happen with no particles < 1349101452 263193 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-223-46.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also what if everything was made of asparagus < 1349101457 708458 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :way to ask meaningful questions < 1349101485 247941 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme try < 1349101501 530805 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what would happen if time went backwards and reverse entropy was the norm < 1349101508 841387 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn that one actually has an answer < 1349101513 404475 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm no good at this < 1349101521 777389 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1349101558 9648 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i act like there are no particles < 1349101566 503025 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what would happen with the fourth fundamental force being antigravity < 1349101571 168754 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna ask randall < 1349101601 901437 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-223-46.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I'm not sure reversing time would reverse entropy < 1349101606 895464 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that reminds me to check whatif < 1349101685 529422 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a monday? < 1349101783 971354 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have not looked for a while < 1349102183 291787 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1349102220 696893 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find most whatifs end in tragedy < 1349103013 515270 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1349103649 450452 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349103658 534141 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1349104180 304293 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349104187 608482 :jiella1!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349104260 238308 :jiella!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1349104452 353931 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1349105302 914206 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349105801 961938 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1349105938 572691 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349106295 455172 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-12.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1349106357 693943 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349106383 805896 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349106500 709775 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349107203 601374 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1349107393 116402 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: WE BLEW THE MOON UP!! that's not a tragedy that's AN ACCOMPLISHMENT < 1349107417 107288 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The introduction of emulators created to play illegally copied Nintendo software represents the greatest threat to date to the intellectual property rights of video game developers. […] the assumption that the games involved are vintage or nostalgia games is incorrect. Nintendo is famous for bringing back to life its popular characters for its newer systems http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp < 1349107467 946548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no. :-( < 1349107526 573205 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, emulators themselves are legal, aren't they? < 1349107567 983296 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349107589 47524 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: Possibly, but since they are the GREATEST THREAT maybe they shouldn't be! < 1349107595 871378 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1349107668 559980 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Such emulators have the potential to significantly damage a worldwide entertainment software industry which generates over $15 billion annually, and tens of thousands of jobs." < 1349107677 203169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, you are RUINING it. < 1349107723 853942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case you feel like saying something to the contrary, remember that it's not open to debate. < 1349107727 562108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Emulators developed to play illegally copied Nintendo software promote piracy. That's like asking why doesn't Nintendo legitimize piracy. It doesn't make any business sense. It's that simple and not open to debate.") < 1349107798 160987 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also have the "linking is infringing" argument, I note. That's always a fun one. < 1349107981 884459 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION links to google.com < 1349107983 672753 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no < 1349108530 676819 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many ROMs exist that aren't copies of Nintendo games? < 1349108534 632403 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, homebrew ROMs? < 1349108707 54175 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how you could count that kind of thing, since there's presumably quite a few that only exist on their creator's computer. < 1349108866 821277 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there a significant enough number that there's at least some usage of emulators that are legitimate? < 1349109044 164873 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1349109055 900263 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's a wild guess) < 1349109065 164536 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I think it's a good approximation) < 1349109089 518681 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pouet's search finds 33 releases for NES; presumably watching those on an emulator should be legal. Depending, of course, whether those involve any burned-in-ROM code for which Nintendo claims copyright. < 1349109154 742659 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1349109182 19941 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349109211 804751 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1349109214 207961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As well as 98 SNES releases, and somewhere around 250 GBA things.) < 1349109241 71574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't you legally make a copy of a ROM you have for your own use? < 1349109394 730217 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1349109402 297313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not according to Nintendo, because the copying devices are illegal. < 1349109406 916963 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to their "functions". < 1349109430 199147 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Are Game Copying Devices Illegal? Yes. Game copiers enable users to illegally copy video game software onto floppy disks, writeable compact disks or the hard drive of a personal computer. They enable the user to make, play and distribute illegal copies of video game software which violates Nintendo's copyrights and trademarks. These devices also allow for the uploading and downloading of ... < 1349109436 690934 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... ROMs to and from the Internet. Based upon the functions of these devices, they are illegal." < 1349109437 342523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349109449 444034 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd argue, but I'm sure this too is "not open to debate". < 1349109526 412037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I don't think there's (at least currently) a DMCA exemption for archival copying, so they might be (US-)right for all I know. < 1349110027 825456 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... CD-Burners are illegal too? < 1349110051 728848 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: By that definition, any regular computer is illegal? < 1349110058 981806 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349110076 192668 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to talk out my emotions somewhere, and my gf isn't online < 1349110103 320963 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lord < 1349110118 97631 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably not actually going to talk them out < 1349110121 94014 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, not here < 1349110165 706027 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Well, IANAL. It might have to do with a value judgement on whether the device is "intended" to circumvent technical rights-protection measures or not, and whether it has any other uses. At least the Finnish anti-circumvention law criminalizes "circumvention devices" that have "only limited commercial uses" in addition to the circumvention bit. For regular computers and CD burners, I ... < 1349110172 191596 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... would think it's reasonably clear they have substantial noninfringing uses. < 1349110471 325927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least the Finnish law has a general-purpose exemption that you are allowed to circumvent a protection if you need to in order to use the product; so it'd be legal to go through AACS to watch a legally bought Blu-ray disc. Er, assuming you were clever enough to figure out how to do that; importing, distributing, selling, etc. of devices, products, parts or services to do it is of course a ... < 1349110477 331732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... criminal act. < 1349110531 237646 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, does your client do some sort of wrapping thing automatically < 1349110553 108867 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There exists a person with the nick of fi < 1349110566 490013 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discovered while trying to VERSION fizzie < 1349110586 463080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does, and I've configured it with a somewhat pessimal auto-wrapping line length limit. < 1349110619 961399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the one it calculates (from uhost prefix, channel/target name etc.) sometimes fails miserably and leaves a few characters clipped. < 1349110634 892496 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's the quasi-standard irssi splitlong.pl.) < 1349110751 741582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The autoguessed length is 497 - length($server->{nick} . $server->{userhost} . $target) where 497 is 510 - length(":! PRIVMSG :") and I think I did puzzle out why it's not always right but forgot already. < 1349110814 117498 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just fixed it to 400 bytes of actual content. < 1349110957 610629 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it was simply the mismatch between "fis@iris.zem.fi" and "fis@unaffiliated/fizzie". < 1349110983 290280 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The former presumably being what $server->{userhost} expects. < 1349111158 174960 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need sleep < 1349111166 226611 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And to not feel so nauseous < 1349111281 608286 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both sterling idea < 1349111284 272139 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s < 1349111797 23381 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349111955 937076 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349112424 740407 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1349113165 570633 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349113193 733892 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1349113618 18479 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349113807 135520 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1349113946 343607 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my typical channels for emotion stuff is also mostly inactive right now < 1349114098 831699 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can be used to emote! < 1349114107 178013 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just ask that guy who was contemplating suicide a while back! < 1349114255 731728 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel nauseous. Not sure if I'm physically sick, or if it's just emotions+lack of sleep < 1349114259 791562 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not running a fever. < 1349114306 655896 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those aren't emotions Sgeo < 1349114310 691827 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are just feeling sick < 1349114314 866346 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps ask a doctor < 1349114332 347575 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess this is a bad time for snark, i'll stop < 1349114334 970739 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm having some emotions, and unsure if they may be causing the symptoms < 1349114355 950777 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a doctor would probably be able to tell you! < 1349114402 442709 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, there was an #esoteric suicide and I missed it? < 1349114515 242657 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he means unknown character < 1349114542 461573 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- aware of the useless trivias < 1349114608 522183 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mentally replaces "useless" with "wicked". The wicked trivias < 1349114609 603660 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1349114617 407203 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :honk HONK < 1349114639 235465 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1349114675 206076 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, he didn't commit suicide, at least not in-channel. < 1349114680 489274 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope not at all, I don't need that kind of angst. < 1349114699 146205 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason i associate angst with fried chicken < 1349114848 559112 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349114858 619116 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it's synesthesia < 1349115046 901214 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Synæsthesia. (I just wanted a ligature.) < 1349115758 649255 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/bringing back to life its popular characters/shamelessly porting very old games/ < 1349115820 989165 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349116014 846424 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who was it that said that making a game made you immortal? < 1349116023 21598 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because people will find ways to keep the game working < 1349116043 20788 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like something Sam Hugh would say, except he said it about math < 1349116149 217251 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I might be changing my mind about Ian < 1349116231 824537 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does make sense to say "Your arbitrary reason for discrimination doesn't even work", even if I would prefer "Arbitrary reasons for discrimination just suck, don't do that" < 1349116288 817849 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem is, if someone disagrees with your second statement, you're in a dead-end < 1349116302 504295 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas it might be possible to reason him using the first < 1349116375 911172 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1349116548 618648 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, PH isn't here < 1349116557 405680 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Phantom_Hoover Have you read Flatterland? < 1349116557 638921 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1349116579 899188 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Phantom_Hoover Do read logs around when I @ask'd that. < 1349116580 166330 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1349117439 79959 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-22-26.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1349117475 23261 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: would you like me to object to the intent to deregister you, on your behalf? < 1349117496 508369 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1349117498 12852 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, sure < 1349117729 300000 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O https://twitter.com/shit_hn_says < 1349117909 710176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1349117990 208274 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1349118074 273306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: _why? < 1349118096 491892 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, why what? < 1349118200 593601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if you program and want any longevity to your work, make a game. all else recycles, but people rewrite architectures to keep games alive." < 1349118267 100663 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349118370 111407 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I completed Bastion this afternoon < 1349118370 306605 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1349118372 963603 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ending was sad < 1349118399 224447 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, oh, I feel like a derp now. < 1349118401 568622 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thank you. < 1349118518 837827 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, in mcmap's colour scheme (in colors.txt and block.c) < 1349118646 124069 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does the alpha work? < 1349118653 195736 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, which end's which? < 1349118749 649976 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently, the alpha is bi-endian so that depends on which mode it's in < 1349118760 327513 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1349119170 515032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i find most whatifs end in tragedy <-- he does seem to make a point of that < 1349119214 992135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*munroe < 1349119401 120178 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe he's sad because his wife has cancer < 1349119503 40347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's because bad things happening to other people is the basis of humor < 1349119513 503495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not actually true) < 1349119521 454369 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought bad puns were the basis of humour < 1349120035 780038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Puns *are* bad things happening to people. < 1349120049 44128 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1349120073 136895 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is like when I first got told that Monads *are* monoids in the category of endofunctors < 1349120137 430083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the feeling that reading a page full of quotes from _Stranger in a Strange Land_ is a better experience than reading the actual book. < 1349120271 43477 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1349120759 103673 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: It's actually opacity, so 255 is fully opaque, 0 is completely transparent. < 1349120899 411066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: (As far as I know, anyhow. And water is special.) < 1349121062 720060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Arc_Koen did you mean to remove an a from the kipple truth-machine program? i don't know kipple so... < 1349121062 914703 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1349121529 485767 :jiella1!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi NICK :jiella < 1349121831 681251 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the random number generator I used in Famicom Hangman OK? < 1349122063 598234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.daniellesucher.com/2011/11/jailbreak-the-patriarchy-my-first-chrome-extension/ < 1349122274 416048 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :from another internet place: < 1349122295 480078 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Damn it Jim, I'm a roleplayer not a whore." < 1349122465 476261 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, thanks < 1349122610 168316 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what's the point of block traits? The only one with LAVA_TRAIT is lava and lave, similar for WATER_TRAIT < 1349122643 750290 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is a known bug with the English language itself that Im dealing with imperfectly at the moment. See, sometimes her should translate to him, and sometimes it should translate to his. There are a lot of tricky edge cases here." < 1349122738 918743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well translate may be the wrong word, but i understand what it's trying to say. < 1349122775 303700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"her" is both oblique form and possessive, but "him" and "his" divide this. < 1349122857 207311 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just amused by calling English "buggy" < 1349123047 727209 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: Future-proofing, I suppose. It used to be so that IS_WATER checked against block IDs directly, I think. It was felt cleaner if such block properties were more centrally collected. < 1349123061 587845 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1349123070 173839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: There are, after all, apparently two waters. (0x08 and 0x09.) < 1349123089 632974 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1349123216 284177 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1349123240 116183 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, water source and running water < 1349123421 471965 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which generation's "Generation Y"? < 1349123424 121539 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not mcmap) < 1349123479 484902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one after X, I think? Maybe? < 1349123502 761264 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it my generation? The one before me? The sort of half generation between my and my parents? < 1349123503 693976 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1349123834 416389 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it wasn't obvious, these "generations" are arbitrary groupings that are very vaguely related to the time people are born, and anyone can invent a Generation Fnarf if they want to < 1349123875 640430 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could be in as many as a thousand generations simultaneously < 1349123883 834148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generation Fnarf is Gregor's, naturally. < 1349123908 541903 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and his children will be Generation Fnarf' < 1349123938 363493 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, Generation Y is the children of Generation X < 1349123942 911016 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who were the baby boomers < 1349123951 430187 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I'm right at the end of Generation Y < 1349124209 353908 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought somehow that baby boomers were an older thing. < 1349124260 438001 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generation after WWII? < 1349124283 630637 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are no precise dates for when Generation Y starts and ends. Commentators use beginning birth dates ranging somewhere from the later 1970s[2] or the early 1980s to the early 2000s (decade).[3]" < 1349124292 386445 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds kinda longish-timey. < 1349124305 866224 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lul < 1349124311 285381 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generation Y is like six generations. < 1349124342 242502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought a generation was about 30 years. < 1349124450 838231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's supposed to be a "demographic cohort (a group of subjects with a common defining characteristic)", not exactly a generation in the "mean time between current children becoming parents" sense. < 1349124475 888683 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm hmmm. < 1349124530 712525 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: with all the kids running around getting kids nowadays, it's probably more like 15 years now < 1349124557 403407 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349124629 429542 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 years!? < 1349124640 516165 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What have I been missing for the past 3!? < 1349124666 670951 :atriq!~nathan@host-78-148-8-146.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1349124682 860380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :About LAVA_TRAIT for lava only, it is actually something similar I did in MegaZeux, I changed it to do like that due to the features I have added to make new kind of objects, so that they can be treated as lava by movement functions. < 1349124684 533693 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose he left to start a family now < 1349124939 298826 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1349125026 697715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Finnish statistics for children born in 2011: mean age of mother, 30.3 years; 28.4 considering only firstborn. < 1349125066 741119 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Firstborn children, that is. There are no statistics on the firstbornedness status of the mothers.) < 1349125293 150541 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that'd mean finland is about 1 generation behind per 15 years < 1349125299 572262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :25.0 for the latter figure over all of US in 2006. < 1349125358 662287 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349125482 956835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :25.2 in 2009. < 1349125746 227952 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I “should” be having children. < 1349125749 240905 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha ha. < 1349125750 483186 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha ha. < 1349125752 246005 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sob* < 1349125795 58678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not know you aspire to being a mother. < 1349125886 860297 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Generation Fnarf' is dying for you to get going < 1349125919 654844 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I assume the age is about the same for mothers and fathers >_< < 1349125942 818177 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would guesstimate that it's higher for fathers. < 1349125957 773143 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The statistics reports don't bother saying. < 1349125980 374984 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :These particular ones, anyway; I'm sure such a statistic exists. < 1349126063 235009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :29.65 for a first-time father in 2010. < 1349126114 230247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So about four-and-half years oldr, assuming the mother ages didn't drastically change in one year. < 1349126176 650737 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1349126179 405681 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, one specificity of Kipple is that operators can share operands, I thought it would be a good thing to show it in the truth-machine < 1349126179 638945 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1349126181 699360 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, got a little bit of time! < 1349126203 80428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Gregor hi < 1349126203 275555 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1349126206 309471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1349126224 116825 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1349126224 312246 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf asked 21s ago: hi < 1349126226 459064 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coincidentally, I seem to be approximately 29.46, and there's a kind of a 0.75 year obligatory delay in the process, or so I believe. < 1349126229 409728 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, 0>a? first pushes a zero on a (with >), then if a's top element is 0, clear the stack < 1349126242 592232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I suppose I'll just forget about it. < 1349126295 221275 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the cat program (i>o) uses i both as an operand for the test condition of the '(' loop, and as a value to push on the output stack < 1349126308 657904 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's equivalent to (i i>o) < 1349126378 222076 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should have made a comment about the modification but I thought it was minor < 1349126816 4350 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, question: is it possible to use non-printable characters in thue? < 1349126841 97019 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw in the external resources a link to a brainfuck interpreter in thue, and thought it would be a cool thing to do < 1349126873 872288 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm thinking the easiest way to implement brainfuck cells is by stocking chars directly < 1349126931 982093 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well I guess writing them as 8-bit sequences would work as well, but because of . I'd need to have all the translations anyway) < 1349126933 589779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afair the main problem with thue i/o is that input is line oriented in a way that makes it impossible to do input without possible "code injection" < 1349126956 110684 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's a whole line < 1349126958 188700 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1349127013 818143 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks. < 1349127015 21317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc the brainfuck interpreter doesn't even try to use thue i/o for brainfuck i/o < 1349127038 142651 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I was using thue's input for brainfuck code < 1349127063 198090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be possible as long as you have no comments < 1349127065 705795 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this way I can place the brainfuck instruction next to the current cell < 1349127091 926080 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I decided to assume the input would be +-.,><[] only < 1349127101 824675 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though I may drop ,.) < 1349127103 976004 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349127349 622431 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thinks) haiku 5 bytes 7 bytes 5 bytes (look at wiki found haifu) (thinks more) pi 3 1 4 1 5 9.. a program whence the number of tokens per line is the line number'th digit of pi < 1349127408 844451 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a big deal, just a thing < 1349127522 366276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivial in something like C that has free whitespace < 1349127576 55818 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1349127643 896256 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be an interesting text format though. < 1349127689 572545 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pi is so boring though < 1349127689 806513 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1349127696 186070 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh no no it wouldn't.......... < 1349127697 239574 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, messages < 1349127821 241993 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: perhaps if each pi digit was a token length, including whitespace < 1349127845 539301 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think something that might help improve thue is an event-driven feature < 1349127869 664805 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh i guess you wouldn't need whitespace actually < 1349127871 731394 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "if you just applied rule x, apply rule y" < 1349127896 996088 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, would you like me to find ian stewart and present your objections to him < 1349127903 761909 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he has a lecture soon < 1349127918 26091 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a public one obv. not a teaching one < 1349127922 169771 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok +->< were easy to implement... now to loops < 1349127941 696687 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, um < 1349127953 860745 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION panics < 1349127965 815914 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry i'm not nearly motivated enough to do that < 1349127997 644600 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, ok < 1349128011 406755 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heyaduck.Lookswonderfuleh < 1349128087 704109 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what do you think of http://sprunge.us/EPIe < 1349128101 528794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: ooh, now that's a bit more interesting < 1349128110 301824 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we make up a programming language that requires use of bus conflicts and race conditions? < 1349128111 766528 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i finally struck something < 1349128129 855443 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION drops wool. picks up pitext < 1349128176 390805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it will have to be named after Rosa Parks < 1349128187 500828 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well BEGIN!::=BEGIN00000000!; should be BEGIN!::=BEGIN;00000000!; instead but appart from that) < 1349128213 173305 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ha! < 1349128215 460660 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OK, but why, and why is Rosa Parks? < 1349128228 524763 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, this is Thue right < 1349128230 390814 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why and how is she? < 1349128233 316646 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1349128240 373860 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i just got that < 1349128242 772188 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an interpreter for brainfuck < 1349128246 531546 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, who is Rosa Parks? < 1349128251 161909 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hats off for that pun < 1349128278 279904 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I really don't know how to implement loops < 1349128308 347224 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole program is one big loop, really < 1349128324 186069 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what program? < 1349128328 173611 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thue program < 1349128331 791115 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yes < 1349128341 875359 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I mean I don't know how to implement brainfuck's [ and ] < 1349128347 58364 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :bus conflicts! < 1349128363 105120 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd need to keep the brainfuck code somewhere, instead of taking it char after char from input < 1349128372 393325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "Rosa Louise McCauley Parks (February 4, 1913 – October 24, 2005) was an African-American civil rights activist, whom the U.S. Congress called "the first lady of civil rights", and "the mother of the freedom movement"." < 1349128373 954982 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i didn't know better i'd say zzo38 did that on purpose < 1349128394 740131 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if I do so, then how can I have statements like "if the current instruction is so, do so to the tape"? < 1349128399 415941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did what on purpose? < 1349128412 941799 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you made a joke < 1349128426 266582 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What joke? < 1349128431 114872 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: I think the usual way is to encode some kind of marker that points out the next thing for the interpreter to do < 1349128441 712330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no you made the setup to my rosa parks joke < 1349128444 535009 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric : Can we make up a programming language that requires use of bus conflicts and race conditions? zzo38: it will have to be named after Rosa Parks < 1349128466 531561 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1349128466 872487 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I'm not sure I understand < 1349128507 6908 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem is if I have brainfuck code someplace, and the tape in another place, I cannot apply the code to the tape < 1349128521 596322 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see zzo38, rosa parks caused a conflict on a bus when she refused to let a white person take her seat because her race was black < 1349128535 701238 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the !::=::: statement allowed me to inject the brainfuck instruction directly into the tape < 1349128553 504674 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: OK. Now I know who is Rosa Parks. < 1349128558 584534 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1349128568 386083 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it couldn't be more fitting < 1349128569 812580 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I didn't make a joke; oerjan did. < 1349128582 835033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: that _would_ seem to be a problem. i think you'll just have to move things about, that's usual with thue < 1349128594 2062 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am OK if you want to call it that. < 1349128640 174425 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they keep the bus in question in a museum or something < 1349128663 993925 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't recall if i remember that or if i read something wrong < 1349128665 577007 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1349128673 427066 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Sleeeeeeep? < 1349128678 879648 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: move things about? like, moving a whole portion of brainfuck code inside the tape? problem is, thue doesn't allow for "variables" (as some kind of regexp or pattern-matching), so i'd need to write transformation laws for every possible code < 1349128718 155558 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hhmmm, or I guess I could move the tape through the code instead of moving the code through the tape < 1349128726 875042 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc, moving everything around is what the other bf in thue interpreter is doing ... I'm not too sure where the tape is, but there is stuff moving around in the state space that roughly corresponds to the instruction pointer < 1349128727 694515 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would feel weird though < 1349128739 738999 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the irony is on the intra bus conflicts and inter bus conflicts < 1349128904 200891 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I'll think about it, at least it looks possible now < 1349128911 142349 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you for your help and good night < 1349128946 669057 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is definitely possible < 1349129077 109927 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1349129103 995617 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe :) < 1349129175 863134 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: yeah i have also been thinking about events.. < 1349129219 854099 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok you did say good night < 1349129222 40411 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone dropped a comment on list of ideas saying "hey I have ideas for an object-oriented derivative for thue, but I don't know how to create a page" < 1349129246 568969 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I really like today's xkcd < 1349129334 760821 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm puzzled as to how thue could be object-oriented... this is probably the last paradigm I would've thought of for a derivative) < 1349129345 190016 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, gnight < 1349129365 980442 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, object rewriting < 1349129464 698248 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: shall I answer to the thue derivative idea on the list of ideas page? since it's not a user I don't know of another way to talk to him < 1349129633 495999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that page has always been a bit talky anyway < 1349130200 955377 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1349130520 527425 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, done, good night for good < 1349130532 647704 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1349131739 869737 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, how does ^/([^q].*)$ not match '/+++++.'? < 1349131838 853321 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Maybe / is being treated as a special character? < 1349132084 421235 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's a newline at the end. (Don't laugh. Sometimes there is!) < 1349132254 521641 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl '/+++++.' =~ m{^/([^q].*)$} ? print "match" : print "no"; < 1349132255 21943 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :match < 1349132271 593299 :jiella!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: The Rosa Parks bus is in the Henry Ford museum. < 1349132299 641855 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the problem was that RewriteCond applies to the next RewriteRule, didn't remember that part < 1349132408 589819 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1349132430 819441 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Do you have brainfuck in your URIs? < 1349132436 131987 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes < 1349132448 280936 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a situation. < 1349132484 451917 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the problem though, the problem is that it's not working < 1349132515 877834 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349132548 808359 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be going "oh, qq000000000000000101^ioiooooooooooooooo looks like a valid uri, let's go to that file!" and then serves a 400 Bad Request error < 1349132603 486018 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349132857 586051 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl 'qqr000000000000000101^ioiooooooooooooooo' =~ m{^(q.*q[^r].*)$} ? print "match" : print "no"; < 1349132858 100884 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1349132872 922243 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, reading it backwards again < 1349133394 935044 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a fancy esolang < 1349133495 152563 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh, the problem was so damn silly :( < 1349133521 814329 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're supposed to add a colon followed by the input to the program followed by an underscore < 1349133530 600244 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't, then nothing happens < 1349134107 759660 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349134583 461809 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1349134685 826071 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1349134822 468373 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words, it was never broken in the first place, I was just using it wrong < 1349135389 814549 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf, now I got the 10% bug but in the *other direction* < 1349135450 81029 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1349135858 472083 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1349135903 657750 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (zipWith (/) `on` map (fromIntegral . ord)) "Oovvy#^y|vn$" "Hello World!" < 1349135905 590845 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1.0972222222222223,1.099009900990099,1.0925925925925926,1.0925925925925926...