< 1348185812 14318 :JaBoJa|2!~kvirc@esb200.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl NICK :JaBoJa < 1348185896 152203 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348185925 190683 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348186832 473182 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1348186997 430953 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1348189238 38977 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@esb200.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348192123 84328 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348195529 97359 :IMEVER!~rhett@180.175.164.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348195716 584213 :IMEVER!~rhett@180.175.164.183 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1348196478 318037 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1348197867 967800 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348198101 230582 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1348200170 854596 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1348200543 845428 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally I figured out how to beat the assassin in the Dungeons&Dragons game! I asked the referee what is phase of moon in the game; he asked me to select the phase of the moon instead, so I said it is a new moon and he accepted that. < 1348200636 978339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should've selected blue moon. < 1348200645 38237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or one & a half moons. < 1348200649 796737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gallery.guetech.org/zork0/calendar11.jpg < 1348200655 853865 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://chainsawsuit.com/2012/08/07/cool-moon/ < 1348200656 593976 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a phase of the moon? I do not think it is valid. < 1348200657 62853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gallery.guetech.org/zork0/calendar10.jpg < 1348200663 257011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen the Zork calendar already < 1348200665 875971 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a copy < 1348200670 79166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gallery.guetech.org/zork0/calendar13.jpg < 1348200671 642506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1348200681 350871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: An actual original copy from the game? < 1348200706 810623 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-147-76.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1348201038 446121 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, it is a picture I found on computer. < 1348201078 24375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh. I found a picture on computer too. < 1348201391 876652 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1348201391 895173 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :*.net *.split < 1348201392 59709 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1348201706 281918 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1348201706 300471 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1348201706 300615 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1348201930 262757 :xiaoding!~GaoMing@58.199.170.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348201953 167663 :xiaoding!~GaoMing@58.199.170.73 PART :#esoteric < 1348201971 974150 :xiaoding!~GaoMing@58.199.170.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348201979 445477 :xiaoding!~GaoMing@58.199.170.73 PART :#esoteric < 1348202239 631959 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1348205069 954788 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348205097 311692 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1348205187 801171 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this basketball game on X-BIT, I managed to win 89 to 49 yesterday. < 1348205196 369058 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually it is not by that many points. < 1348205373 912561 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My team (Canada) plays at Raleigh tonight. Let's see... They have a better F than I do but I have a better C. (However, their best F is not in their starting lineup.) < 1348205495 282961 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :89 to 49? That's a lot of tos. < 1348205636 756937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have enough G but not enough F and C. I have only one PF, but I think F is also usable as PF and SF, and G is usable as PG and SG, but I think C can only use C, and in addition there are less C available to purchase, so this makes difficuly. < 1348205663 67867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You should acquire some R. < 1348205675 932407 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :R? I don't think this game has those. < 1348205712 765102 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the team players are only classified as: G, PG, SG, F, PF, SF, and C. < 1348206503 330395 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of canada has one basketball team? < 1348206562 114182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Maybe some N, then? < 1348206585 638690 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I am sure that it is not the case. However, this is just a computer game. < 1348206597 729696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: There is no N either, as far as I can see. < 1348206676 329134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about: E, TC, OP, O, Σ, ꙮ, VV, K, T, SF, JN, P, L, and U? < 1348208973 307265 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already have SF < 1348209077 3454 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1348209080 540005 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is attempting to understand WTF an application server is
< 1348209116 132922 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1348209490 667810 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348211859 660199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1348212337 263553 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1348212770 134441 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1348213973 852730 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348214506 949189 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1348215524 312086 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348216494 635350 :ztirf!~ztirf@HSI-KBW-078-043-031-070.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1348217318 282445 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-152-214.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348217849 964573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0&&&) < 1348217851 15590 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : The operator `Control.Arrow.&&&' [infixr 3] of a section < 1348217851 108826 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : must have low... < 1348217852 688883 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1348217865 216643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1348217866 720440 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott asked 9h 38m 27s ago: that is literally the least motivating promise ever made. but i will look into it tonight < 1348218073 273665 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those people and their misuse of @ask vs. @tell. < 1348218241 404421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's an inside joke. < 1348218318 177525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? In that case, ha ha, I laugh. < 1348218447 377730 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1348218543 42559 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348218551 452324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0`on`) < 1348218552 493783 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : The operator `Data.Function.on' [infixl 0] of a section < 1348218552 587948 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : must have lowe... < 1348218574 504483 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All you need is lowe. < 1348218843 392495 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid robut < 1348218882 174526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: um it did just as expected... < 1348218918 758749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm triggering that error message on purpose to see the [infixl 0] information < 1348218932 997188 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1348218958 32887 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Brace yourselves gentlemen. According to the gas chromatograph, the secret ingredient is... Love!? Who's been screwing with this thing?" < 1348218980 113308 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348218994 481084 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bad thing about love is that it's so secret we cannot find it < 1348219084 281559 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a quote from the simpsons when trying to determine an ingredient in some alcoholic cocktail < 1348219569 52254 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely remembers actually seeing that episode.
< 1348219650 166897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I only do it with a select few who can "appreciate" it. < 1348219782 237810 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the drink was called a flaming moe < 1348220915 347529 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1348221282 206120 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-152-214.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1348224628 905478 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348224671 284839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION learns there is a star named Zubenelgenubi
< 1348224712 540591 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds vaguely Lovecraftian. < 1348224712 822153 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1348224738 243426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it means "the southern claw" < 1348224884 655850 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Alpha Librae -- has the traditional name Zubenelgenubi" -- hey, Alpha Librae exists in Star Control 2. < 1348224900 109221 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in what language? < 1348224903 32089 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beta Librae is the Supox homeworld, that's probably where I remember it from. < 1348224911 323122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: mangled arabic < 1348224911 981080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: "The name, from Arabic الزبن الجنوبي (al-zuban al-janūbiyy), means "southern claw" --" < 1348225063 199866 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348225157 545799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The two brightest components of Alpha Librae form a double star -- The brightest member, α2 Librae, is itself a spectroscopic binary system. The second member, α1 Librae -- too is a spectroscopic binary -- The system may have a fifth component, the star KU Librae -- thus forming a hierarchical quintuple star system." < 1348225163 72837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds quite complicated. < 1348225186 697286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All this for a dot on the night sky. Such wate. < 1348225188 595406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waste. < 1348225245 148799 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was deep up until 'wate'. < 1348225253 882217 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That kind of ruined it. < 1348225348 913631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. :/ < 1348225817 941578 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :One small step for man, one giant heap for mankind. ^leap < 1348225999 618096 :ztirf!~ztirf@HSI-KBW-078-043-031-070.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1348226036 443468 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt really know the actual version had a typo.. but i think have heard so before < 1348226082 245586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure it's called a "typo" when it's done by a person speaking. < 1348226105 629021 :ztirf!~ztirf@HSI-KBW-078-043-031-070.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1348226106 231825 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in this new age it won't be long before it is < 1348226222 542366 :ztirf!~ztirf@HSI-KBW-078-043-031-070.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1348226393 289732 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-109.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1348226996 971995 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1348227143 131570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (`mod` 7) <$> [1055-1020, 211-176] < 1348227144 188191 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,0] < 1348227160 566362 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1348227267 841599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 98-14 < 1348227268 804791 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 84 < 1348227340 857440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (938+84, 290+84) < 1348227341 843017 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (1022,374) < 1348227396 885190 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (2+0+0,0+00+2+0) < 1348227397 994559 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (2,2) < 1348227497 831212 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0.0+000+0+0,0+00+0+0+0) < 1348227499 93939 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (0.0,0) < 1348227554 709535 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.0 > 0.000 < 1348227555 874854 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1348227592 240032 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.0 < 0.000 < 1348227593 356523 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1348227605 294427 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.0 equal 0.000 < 1348227606 482278 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `equal' < 1348227615 533763 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :== < 1348227624 772677 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.0 == 0.000 < 1348227626 102109 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1348227631 859424 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1348227648 263963 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :using this information i was able to save the city once again < 1348227796 790931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (1054+84, 28+84) < 1348227797 756099 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (1138,112) < 1348228080 90974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was someone at ##c the other day confused why float a = 3.141593; if (a < 3.141593) puts("low"); was always printing 'low'. (Example slightly simplified.) < 1348228108 291248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating points sure are nasty. < 1348228212 294369 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 52*50-42*10^5 < 1348228213 599795 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : -4197400 < 1348228218 788958 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm < 1348228235 802286 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 52*50-42*(10^5) < 1348228236 987521 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : -4197400 < 1348228250 738416 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect i did something wrong here < 1348228282 769870 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no clue what those numbers are for, but the result sure seems reasonable. < 1348228295 553212 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 52*50-42*10^4 < 1348228296 897117 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : -417400 < 1348228307 584686 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngyang ngyang < 1348228340 263194 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 42*10^4-52*50 < 1348228341 371408 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 417400 < 1348228347 918668 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1348228375 764062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (894+84, 246+84) < 1348228376 912199 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (978,330) < 1348228823 495830 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 84 * 72 * 88 / 42 / 11 - 14 < 1348228824 618844 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1138.0 < 1348228964 448074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (`mod` 7) <$> [1055-849, 211-30] < 1348228965 416599 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [3,6] < 1348228994 955595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (`mod` 7) <$> [849-849, 128-30] < 1348228995 897855 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,0] < 1348229016 752904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp(1)**pi - pi < 1348229017 856599 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 19.99909997918947 < 1348229027 174399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambdabot must have that same floating-point bug xkcd mentions. < 1348229173 740136 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr . read <$> words "84 72 88 42 11 14" < 1348229176 90265 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "THX*\v\SO" < 1348229745 364942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh < 1348229763 869547 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was terrible.... < 1348229987 446405 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2600 x 42 / 52 / 50 < 1348229988 749273 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0 < 1348229996 976931 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm < 1348229998 402516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that 'x'? < 1348230005 402274 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1348230012 967927 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1348230046 503906 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 2x2 = 2*2 in 2600 x 42 / 52 / 50 < 1348230047 627010 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : Parse error in pattern < 1348230063 920968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (`mod` 7) <$> [869-850, 49-128] < 1348230064 706005 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm.. now im just being dumb < 1348230064 912539 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [5,5] < 1348230079 939530 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think "x" works as an operator, syntax-wise. < 1348230083 283699 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2600 * 42 / 52 / 50 < 1348230084 376955 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 42.0 < 1348230107 957407 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr . read <$> words "52 50" < 1348230110 21434 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "42" < 1348230125 386701 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type x < 1348230126 495119 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expr < 1348230139 652328 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must be one of those "things" that bot has. < 1348230157 246219 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :my things are stupid < 1348230172 612473 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bots things are just common sense < 1348230280 283505 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so.. '4' * '2' * 42 = 2600... thats kind of cool < 1348230298 223971 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :waitno it doesnt < 1348230306 219329 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1348230412 263324 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawls back under my rock < 1348230445 738262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :'4' * '2' = 2600, though. I don't know how cool that is. < 1348230450 50787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> product $ ord <$> "42" < 1348230451 123141 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2600 < 1348230469 147554 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :2600 is pretty cool < 1348230488 79590 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my thing isn't so much < 1348230534 40661 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1348230559 948886 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i would be interested in is a case where the text of a number is the same as the string of the number < 1348230574 921976 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :by something like the product or the sum < 1348230618 511886 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :^oops < 1348230623 891549 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hewuihduiwehduiwehduw < 1348230628 136885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum $ ord <$> "150" < 1348230629 265305 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 150 < 1348230635 822446 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1348230660 169946 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(49+53+48.) < 1348230683 288528 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (\n -> n == sum (map ord (show n))) [0..] < 1348230687 38949 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1348230696 828649 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also 151, 152, ..., 159 for obvious reasons. < 1348230697 392354 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 10 $ filter (\n -> n == sum (map ord (show n))) [0..] < 1348230698 369757 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159] < 1348230730 756969 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (\n -> n == sum (map ord (show n))) [0..10^6] < 1348230734 15692 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159] < 1348230736 4849 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (\n -> n == product (map ord (show n))) [0..10^6] < 1348230739 385591 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [] < 1348230742 973614 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :take 12 $ filter (\n -> n == sum (map ord (show n))) [0..] < 1348230750 17539 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 12 $ filter (\n -> n == sum (map ord (show n))) [0..] < 1348230753 973716 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1348230754 579466 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently that's all, folks. < 1348230761 603182 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1348230766 975182 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :spooky < 1348230792 567646 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 10 $ filter (\n -> n == product (map ord (show n))) [0..] < 1348230796 488803 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1348230800 103307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that the individual values are ~50, the product grows too quickly, while the sum of course grows too slowly. < 1348230811 6719 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i write that right? < 1348230832 289193 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. (To both of you.) < 1348230833 923505 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you did it already < 1348230836 2580 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1348231028 131262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> flip showHex "" <$> filter (\n -> n == sum (map ord (showHex n ""))) [0..10^5] < 1348231030 297984 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["9a","9b","9c","9d","9e","9f"] < 1348231105 13679 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> flip showHex "" <$> filter (\n -> n == sum (map (ord . toUpper) (showHex n ""))) [0..10^5] < 1348231106 208305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348231107 363534 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [] < 1348231122 297705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. Though I suppose one could argue the "0x" prefix could also be counted in that. < 1348231153 38133 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> flip showHex "" <$> filter (\n -> n == product (map ord (showHex n ""))) [0..] < 1348231154 125383 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : can't find file: L.hs < 1348231175 682704 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-" < 1348231195 853681 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawls back under my rock < 1348231273 569372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was some kind of unrelated breakage, I'd say. < 1348232525 441359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah there's a bug in the jolverine loop < 1348232533 641538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Will fix it later < 1348232773 58499 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348232841 713633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1348232848 383584 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348233101 11254 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348233107 294064 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348233122 661154 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1348233419 116586 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348233644 124001 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1348233784 223409 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Arc_Koen < 1348233794 994981 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1348233796 324336 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are things going? < 1348233861 276948 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type <$> < 1348233862 162766 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `<$>' < 1348233867 535953 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type (<$>) < 1348233868 455880 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a b (f :: * -> *). (Functor f) => (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1348233901 301227 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src (<$>) < 1348233901 486306 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :f <$> a = fmap f a < 1348233908 65391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348233908 342946 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that. < 1348233916 551428 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1348235033 675889 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1348235959 537283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (×) = (*) in 2600 × 42 / 52 / 50 < 1348235960 660050 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 42.0 < 1348236032 654219 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348236052 148617 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you go all *fancy* with your x's. < 1348236082 456384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348236242 922874 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1348237567 326413 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-109.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1348237658 695460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/62959000/jpg/_62959824_hacked.jpg < 1348238106 939633 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric : :O < 1348238198 873704 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, I'm not sure my CPU would be able to decode binary with that in it < 1348238203 21294 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that why it's a hack? < 1348238386 80104 :ais523__!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348238388 473175 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :HACKED is embedded in the bitstream in bitmap space, perhaps < 1348238565 134817 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoaaaa < 1348238568 659766 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1348238569 314561 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds really advanced < 1348238584 301846 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: r u hax0r? < 1348238593 921179 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrn me hax kthx < 1348238750 960842 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hackego < 1348238754 114926 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. < 1348239009 257245 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7BB.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1348239021 910056 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7BB.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1348239436 739995 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi. < 1348239481 284649 :ais523__!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1348239597 365799 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: that's dr. turing to you, punk < 1348239705 417054 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1348240357 808267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as collision resistance goes, how much worse is "first half of sha256 hash" compared to "both halves of sha256 hash xored together"? < 1348240423 721517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it shouldn't matter for an ideal hash, but might make life easier for an attacker exploiting some cryptographic weakness of sha256 < 1348240441 75751 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I don't think we have any knowledge of sha256 being any worse than ideal < 1348240443 326307 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it should be the same < 1348240453 960255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you don't *puts on NSA sunglasses* < 1348240456 654943 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1348240467 840087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how's it going copumpkin < 1348240475 745257 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :xoring them together might be very slightly more future-proof in case someone finds some bug in the first or second half :P < 1348240479 817179 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that seems unlikely < 1348240488 152933 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :not too badly < 1348240498 288373 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :you missed out on a great talk by edwardk yesterday < 1348240528 472010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1348240535 805353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should pay more attention to these things < 1348240556 612272 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't love haskell anymore :( < 1348240560 616964 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wub < 1348240569 717485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1348240573 456289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not actually true) < 1348240706 598948 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-140-71.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348241192 271683 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-109.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1348241607 130576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What are you doing with the first half of sha256? Human-readable identifiers? < 1348241635 336773 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1348241643 356767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :long and boring story < 1348241644 700382 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Truncation at least is a thing that I've seen done somewhere for SHA-256. (And SHA-224 of course is a truncated SHA-256.) < 1348241695 592964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which, how about a protocol which converts a large number of arbitrary bits into a human readable story < 1348241711 331752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders whether there's anything more to be confident about with some function that takes an explicit output length, like PBKDF2, than just truncating/xoring a hash.
< 1348241726 116309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Human-memorizable, in particular? < 1348241727 944083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a standard for parsing this which is insensitive to whitespace, punctuation, and unimportant words < 1348241730 950903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1348241735 926156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you can memorize, say, an entire RSA private key < 1348241766 428024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is an extension of the "four random words" approach to passwords < 1348241774 151388 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've talked about that a couple of times before in other channels. < 1348241779 235187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1348241798 643553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you conclude < 1348241841 318726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think someone in another channel had a thing where he split his password into a few bits and then found words in /usr/share/dict/words whose md5sums ended with those bits, or some scheme like that. < 1348241883 344695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I concluded that 2048 is an awful lot of bits. :-( < 1348241908 26146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1348241923 106775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would probably want some error-correcting codes or something too. < 1348241928 760612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1348241934 274816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck yeah, error correcting codes < 1348241983 438167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand people manage to memorize some pretty large texts, so it's probably feasible. < 1348242001 44391 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Insert world record of pi memorization result here.] < 1348242024 355950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you could probably write a paper on this < 1348242037 781437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i'm not so interested in world record capabilities ;) < 1348242040 646466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are approaches to memorizing numbers like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemonic_major_system which have a fair amount of redundancy and let you make up your own sentences. < 1348242052 936020 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7BB.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: text (sentences) is easier to memorize I would say than pseudo-random bytes < 1348242060 198879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But don't work that well in certain edge cases.) < 1348242083 159010 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Yes, but it doesn't have nearly as many bits per character. < 1348242091 344007 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7BB.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For most people it would be easier to remember 3.1415927 (the number known as pi) as:" < 1348242094 346154 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7BB.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's wrong < 1348242102 598585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my (unjustified) assumption is that the structure of a story makes it easier to remember stuff, even though it adds to the length of the text you're memorizing < 1348242109 540032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: That's not the number known as pi. Are you some kind of physicist? < 1348242110 988225 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7BB.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well for me it is < 1348242120 266485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if it's done in such a way that you don't have to remember the connective bits of the story correctly < 1348242127 968694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether rhymes would help or hurt. < 1348242134 674541 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7BB.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1348242136 878409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1348242143 4420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get fewer bits though < 1348242152 242325 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, that's the "hurt" part. < 1348242163 149168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should invent a protocol which converts binary blobs into a sequence of dirty limericks < 1348242169 968830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the entropy of rhyming text is. < 1348242172 589950 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7BB.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that was a wikipedia quote by the way < 1348242184 576626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Complexity_of_Songs < 1348242290 73987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're trying to memorize 2048 bits you're probably going to get some pretty bad edge cases for whatever scheme you use... < 1348242521 183589 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should come up with a scheme for this and memorize my private keys! < 1348242527 618862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way the NSA has more to torture out of me. < 1348242599 296175 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7BB.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard of this technique where you had to visualize numbers and put them in a "story" < 1348242608 378193 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7BB.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have however not actually tried it out < 1348242672 619819 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7BB.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :M. Tullius Cicero also did this(historians claim) < 1348242672 901572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/ST/hash/documents/Kelsey_Truncation.pdf < 1348243061 152087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/drafts/800-107/Draft_Revised_SP800-107.pdf < 1348243601 59198 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-156-132.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348243734 530597 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1348243757 796619 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-140-71.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1348243912 720681 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348243938 937256 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348243987 487789 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348243991 902830 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348244020 866952 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348244044 225509 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348244305 210212 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1348244606 310093 :nvt!nvt@kapsi.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1348244797 894919 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348245559 338272 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-156-132.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1348245610 660573 :nvt!nvt@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1348246201 264869 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-157.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1348247974 321953 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-17-12-26.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348248029 984836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so one simple approach is to pick a set of "interesting" words and extract the information from the unique "interesting" words in order of first appearance < 1348248040 429881 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-17-12-26.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1348248040 757100 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1348248043 697243 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-17-12-26.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1348248086 1868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how big is reasonable for a list of interesting words that aren't too similar, i.e. excluding plurals and such < 1348248091 667992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say 14 bits < 1348248139 110029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then to encode a 2048 bit key, you need a story with about 150 unique interesting words < 1348248222 847505 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-17-12-26.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1348248232 665063 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-17-12-26.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I famous enough to have a page for myself on the wiki? < 1348248274 362043 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-17-12-26.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1348248278 882973 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-17-12-26.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I am < 1348248323 821128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but instead you could use the choice of unique words together with the pattern in which they are repeated < 1348248324 304440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :14 bits per word? < 1348248338 661899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i.e. a dictionary of 16,384 interesting words < 1348248393 837592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems reasonable. < 1348248403 425432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for english anyway < 1348248406 253679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :english has a ton of words < 1348248409 272519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This requires you to always have access to the wordlist, which I guess isn't so bad. < 1348248439 274330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i am not trying to design a scheme that anyone can implement from memory < 1348248443 522160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps that would be more valuable though < 1348248469 666028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably valuable enough to come up with one standardized scheme and get it everywhere. < 1348248641 252522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's serious diminishing returns to having a larger word file. < 1348248659 753639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :13/12 bits would mean that you'd need 160/170 words instead of 150. < 1348248857 655794 :ztirf!~ztirf@HSI-KBW-078-043-031-070.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1348249186 662766 :ztirf!~ztirf@HSI-KBW-078-043-031-070.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de < 1348249523 93120 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348250684 148624 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-157.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348251174 6964 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-157.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1348252080 302332 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1348252104 803036 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348252331 232819 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :[]{}\|-_`^ < 1348252420 182761 :[]{}\|-_`^!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :nortti < 1348252523 820338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ÄÅäåÖö-_`^ < 1348252792 86795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :«»“”¬¦¥¼ < 1348252824 848028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You should figure out and implement that memorization thing so I can use it! < 1348252849 202104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1348253089 758704 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1348253096 45480 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348253201 474728 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1348253220 734226 :Gregor!codu@codu.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1348253225 259623 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1348253443 982154 :Gregor!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1348253648 622757 :AnotherTest!~tim@d51A4C7BB.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1348254547 624214 :ztirf!~ztirf@HSI-KBW-078-043-031-070.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1348254937 999381 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-109.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1348255888 469158 :ztirf!~ztirf@HSI-KBW-078-043-031-070.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de < 1348257524 807584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1348259223 783620 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1348259407 522749 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1348259522 699568 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1348259628 95733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho hum < 1348260574 731073 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try to get emacs and nrepl.el working nicely on my system < 1348260619 158891 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe ritz? < 1348261091 713397 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ho hum vår sång är dum? < 1348261137 977915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't know that one
< 1348261263 192641 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSgngZ9CpTM < 1348261329 374185 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to be "hei hå" or something in norwegian < 1348261453 560533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, it's late in the evening and i won't disturb the silence... < 1348261501 609183 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should enable on-demand plugins < 1348261519 551063 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, but you're not using Opera, maybe your browser doesn't have that < 1348261577 170814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has no idea what you're talking about
< 1348261617 352202 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a thing where plugins never start playing (or even downloading) until you allow it < 1348261645 630298 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: is it like konquerors load plugins only when specified? < 1348261662 54999 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: sounds similar, but I've never used konquerors < 1348261667 898468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...how is that relevant? my speakers are off by default, anyway < 1348261715 283503 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you should try. it isn't best on the stadards front but it is fast and powerful and you can integrate almost anything into it < 1348261716 61773 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, sounded like you couldn't safely follow the link < 1348261754 797679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume that's a link to a song, so it would be pointless to follow it when i'm not going to put on sound < 1348261793 76621 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :even without sound you can tell what song it was from either of the name or the video < 1348261833 935096 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not important, I just linked to that because I used youtube to figure out what the proper name was and to confirm it was the song I was thinking about < 1348261844 608544 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: °͜° < 1348261848 555301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's that scene < 1348261868 533644 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1348262362 552302 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-17-12-26.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1348262516 540059 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@esb200.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348262730 615101 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348262757 885213 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1348263009 282260 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348263376 302506 :JaBoJa|2!~kvirc@ers19.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348263414 132542 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday at FreeGeek I had some .NSF musics to play, they said try Rhythmbox, so I tried and yes it can play .NSF musics, although the expansions may not work perfectly. < 1348263545 37160 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@esb200.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1348263547 132688 :JaBoJa|2!~kvirc@ers19.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl NICK :jaboja < 1348264494 840497 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1348264518 369874 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1348265049 921800 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1348265080 288991 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-157.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348265610 286207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1348265803 780563 :pumpkin!~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1348265806 524905 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1348265825 451923 :pumpkin!~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com NICK :Guest56942 < 1348265892 575771 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348265893 445157 :Guest56942!~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1348266334 738491 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1348266596 971561 :jaboja!~kvirc@ers19.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anybody ever tried to create an esoteric charset? < 1348266655 894356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every charset is esoteric. < 1348266684 389142 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're unsatisfied with the common ones, there's also EBCDIC < 1348266742 561881 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"solved problem, move along" :P < 1348267332 363615 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348267842 336652 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1348268004 308200 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1348268041 275086 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1348268056 364576 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, they totally are! < 1348268072 437361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Who totally are? < 1348268075 980143 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean seriously, why did ascii have \, | and ~? < 1348268092 600454 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and `. < 1348268110 183065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\, is a terrible character. < 1348268115 27209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :~? and `. are also terrible. < 1348268118 507954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, they're double-width! < 1348268122 932046 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1348268176 52774 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This explains so much. 😼 < 1348268199 100712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :much, but wrongly < 1348268223 947371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MVLTE SED ERRANTER < 1348268314 980001 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about that erranter < 1348268347 218701 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably go with falso < 1348268357 861329 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perperam, maybe < 1348268472 848394 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :erranter falso perperam < 1348268576 217873 :jaboja!~kvirc@ers19.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :EBCDIC is interesting... Internet Explorer understands it, but Firefoks and Chrome don't. < 1348268690 187954 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised IE supports it, is it even possible to write HTML in ebcdic? < 1348268699 352506 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one standard ie supports < 1348268771 318670 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I suppose if the http headers specify the charset, it's no problem to decode the ebcdic before sending it on to the HTML stuff < 1348268784 10062 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accidentally flooded #clojure < 1348268792 938580 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :good work < 1348268794 314690 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out the bot will gladly loop forever printing stuff < 1348268860 608648 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not "forever" < 1348268888 718113 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :only until it gets kicked? < 1348268912 694777 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was doing the side-effects to realize the first 32 elements < 1348268924 427118 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I mapped a side-effecting function onto an infinite lazy seq < 1348268931 472014 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-147-76.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348268943 888972 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope you derided them for having side-effects in their language < 1348268959 10656 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this wouldn't have happened in Haskell!" < 1348269096 217582 :jaboja!~kvirc@ers19.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jagiello.vot.pl/ebcdic.php < 1348269103 887845 :jaboja!~kvirc@ers19.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(IE only) < 1348269171 903328 :jaboja!~kvirc@ers19.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP used to send correct charset via HTTP (setting it only via meta tag does not force IE to parse it as EBCDIC) < 1348269182 817085 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, opera doesn't have ebcdic < 1348269212 554925 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that as many as two people in this channel intentionally use IE, and maybe about seven total have it available. < 1348269385 547151 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1348269518 351150 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :EBCDIC is not very good. ASCII is better. However, different thing, other character sets might works better. Also, if I designed ASCII the order would differ a bit, such as having 'A' after '9' so that you can write hexadecimal numbers. < 1348269683 234477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I plan to make the FCHDL (Famicom Hardware Description Language) which is a Haskell library which can compile a Famicom mapper code in DotFami .cart format. < 1348269887 958903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'd probably go with falso <-- but that would be less meta < 1348269925 775916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you do if it was your job to design the 7-bit ASCII code including orders? < 1348269934 885400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quit. < 1348269973 498677 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you not like to make up the ASCII? < 1348270083 417395 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348270186 802899 :NihilistDandy!~ND@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348271842 889707 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you detect open bus in software? I want to be able to design a computer and have it detect whether or not anything is connected to the external memory port, if you push START (or use auto-start mode) to check the optical disc, external memory, etc to see if there is any program to load. But there is another possibility: The external memory does not necessarily have to be an executable program