< 1348099425 213369 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348099430 901108 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348100040 75979 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348100146 752794 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you thinking what I'm thinking? < 1348100148 694377 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain < 1348100148 882420 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but I thought Madonna already had a steady bloke! < 1348100300 428216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (659-463) < 1348100301 368085 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 196 < 1348100314 368403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 196 `divMod` 7 < 1348100315 337759 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (28,0) < 1348100323 95961 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :COÏNCIDENCE? < 1348100399 559308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (`divMod` 7) [463-463,168-70] < 1348100400 560243 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(0,0),(14,0)] < 1348100413 236000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1348101468 455969 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348101474 441992 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :First Images for a New Duck Hunt Energy < 1348101495 929811 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :^First Images in a New Hunt for Dark Energy < 1348101930 166368 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget the Parallel Universe -- Doppelgangers Are Among Us : For example, can you guess which American writer is a dead ringer for Albert Einstein? The celebrated American writer and humorist Samuel Clemens, better known by the pseudonym Mark Twain, bears a striking resemblance to the father of modern science. < 1348101966 502327 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :right... < 1348102718 655955 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348102730 701362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (`divMod` 7) [652-463,19-70] < 1348102731 696497 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(27,0),(-8,5)] < 1348102743 466279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. oh right < 1348102763 551623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (`divMod` 7) [652-463,19-110] < 1348102764 613367 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(27,0),(-13,0)] < 1348102785 649024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1348102947 351407 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: see, and I guess you haven't even checked to see how much alike they looked < 1348102963 370734 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because it sounds stupid < 1348102977 76202 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the very reason why the earth stayed flat for so long! < 1348102990 20869 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1348103097 845261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (`divMod` 7) [680-463,229-110] < 1348103098 866383 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(31,0),(17,0)] < 1348103287 163002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (`divMod` 7) [715-463,145-110] < 1348103288 248021 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(36,0),(5,0)] < 1348103641 883801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (`divMod` 7) [715-463,194-110] < 1348103643 75416 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(36,0),(12,0)] < 1348103653 970345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (`divMod` 7) [715-463,82-110] < 1348103655 154578 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(36,0),(-4,0)] < 1348103752 827953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (`divMod` 7) [484-463,3-110] < 1348103753 925264 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(3,0),(-16,5)] < 1348103756 284519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (`divMod` 7) [484-463,33-110] < 1348103757 353012 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(3,0),(-11,0)] < 1348103955 286035 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-147-76.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348104167 693008 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348104196 92015 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1348104260 827695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (`divMod` 7) [729-463,278-110] < 1348104261 812005 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(38,0),(24,0)] < 1348104676 285983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (`divMod` 7) [589-463,334-110] < 1348104677 340664 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(18,0),(32,0)] < 1348104770 341405 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348104990 204662 :JaBoJa|2!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348105175 998454 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@esi206.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1348106953 996866 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1348107781 467121 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348108046 914848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1348108381 426216 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: a flat earth is ideal. a round earth is, to use my choice of words, dissapointing < 1348108403 891275 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if impractical < 1348108411 380072 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that flat earth isnt that great < 1348108422 893401 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if it was a finite flat earth < 1348108426 121901 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea that I could take my bike and ride in ANY direction and still be sure I will always meet new people is kind of comforting < 1348108463 794287 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, riding in a random direction and ending up falling off the side of the flat earth... :( < 1348108466 708516 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: this is a great example of what i meant when i said the universe is dissapointing < 1348108480 867032 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would make space programs much less cheaper, of course < 1348108525 955585 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"let's send a chimpanzee into space!" *push* "done" < 1348108555 815213 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find that learning the true state of things tends to be boring and dissapointing < 1348108656 25010 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, when it comes to notions of afterlife, i believe that people aren't meta enough about it < 1348108686 816947 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had that thought earlier < 1348108689 666579 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came home < 1348108697 105506 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the neighbour's cat jumped into the garden < 1348108708 229717 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I opened the door, and it came in with me < 1348108721 998226 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's veeeery curious so it wants to explore every door < 1348108747 133078 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when I had to go to the toilets I didn't let it enter < 1348108750 581671 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm < 1348108770 790488 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess now it must be thinking "there's something fascinating about that door! I wonder what's behind" < 1348108784 280756 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause it's the only room he's not allowed to enter < 1348108806 691032 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's the same about the universe < 1348108819 320841 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's so much fuss about dark matter and stuff we know nothing about < 1348108828 479443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a bonus, my last proof may teach some others to hate internal window scrollbars. < 1348108867 861650 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean your last WOAH JOLVERINE < 1348108888 115897 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. i have yet to get answers about why complexity leads to conciousness, why observing things creates conciousness, < 1348108894 72413 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what red is < 1348108903 641900 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what five is < 1348108913 271107 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the wiki policy when it comes to choosing between "Jolverine_Turing-completeness_proof" and "Jolverine/Turing-completeness_proof" < 1348108937 282213 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter because it makes us look smart. < 1348108949 711209 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348108950 416114 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1348108950 540780 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1348108950 643879 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1348108950 786911 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1348108950 868889 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT 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:#esoteric < 1348109357 924763 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1348109357 924839 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1348109357 924919 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1348109362 22423 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric < 1348109362 435502 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1348109380 23878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the _other_ elements are mostly from what i already mentioned on the talk page. < 1348109450 459966 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was very interesting but it's 4:50 in the morning < 1348109467 97441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1348109496 256013 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tomorrow I must do that painting thing that must be done when it's "not too cold but not too sunny", so in the morning < 1348109577 657078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i should sleep < 1348109588 567464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good time of day < 1348109634 866144 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then massive tidying the house up cause it really needs it and then at 3pm I gotta go to that incarcerated people association and tonight I must watch that horror movie a friend lend me SLEEPING IS FOR LOSERS WHO NEEDS IT < 1348109646 307653 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348109648 834787 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 QUIT :Quit: that's dr. turing to you, punk < 1348110121 745922 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1348110480 263261 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1348110672 661728 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348110763 196139 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite right < 1348111587 975929 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1348111604 143273 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1348111865 932045 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1348112052 728267 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348112836 963874 :JaBoJa|2!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl NICK :JaBoJa < 1348112953 368728 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of dissapointments, is the lack of humanoids or reptiles on mars or the moon, and also, the lack of any kind of islands in the clouds (but i presume noone ever expected that) < 1348113237 627217 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are islands in the clouds in early summer morning, when a fog is on the water. < 1348115641 827015 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348115653 136526 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello back < 1348117551 702567 :monqy!~swell@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1348117667 287161 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1348118074 57502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I greppeded logs on the "any /subpages in the main namespace" topic, and at least back when it was discussed once the idea was that there'd be none. < 1348118084 605042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that might have changeded. < 1348118117 667694 :ztirf!~ztirf@HSI-KBW-078-043-031-070.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1348118143 949004 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was some talk on how subpages would interact with articles/languages that have /s in the names. < 1348118214 207466 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-147-76.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1348118326 269724 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah I got confused with that < 1348118473 505846 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348118516 238921 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348118852 216909 :ztirf!~ztirf@HSI-KBW-078-043-031-070.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de < 1348120601 833245 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348120812 993253 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348120879 428936 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348120938 135415 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348120995 885921 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348121054 82170 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348122016 913015 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348122132 816507 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1348122553 425823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/73258510/sad-pictures-for-children/posts/311890 < 1348122588 247815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1348122597 378532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1348122603 215391 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice talk by roconnor about dependent types today. < 1348122606 906811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pity you missed it. < 1348122804 98384 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :URL? < 1348122837 722272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gave a talk today, about kernel exploits < 1348122843 606701 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :URL? < 1348122852 404588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Oh, did you end up updating it? < 1348122857 140454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: t0rch.org < 1348122859 690777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ugcs.net/~keegan/talks/kernel-exploit/talk.pdf < 1348122860 970726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no. < 1348122862 398518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, a bit < 1348122865 329697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yes. < 1348122923 382785 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, although a video would be nice. < 1348122950 490339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The r6 talk wasn't filmed. < 1348122951 974870 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1348123014 22438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually we had a double talk about dependent types and then NixOS. < 1348123153 485985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "how many times have I called exec" seems like a bizarre way of preventing this sort of bug. < 1348123304 353781 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348123370 324085 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348123585 259894 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I've liked the idea behind NixOS < 1348123606 38674 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: that's dr. turing to you, punk < 1348124046 661988 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348124459 192351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes! < 1348124463 367632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, I'm sad I missed NixOS < 1348124470 817447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just today I was telling people how cool the idea behind Nix is < 1348124479 746094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we = some group in SF? < 1348124483 714975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bahaskell < 1348124487 168203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1348124488 584835 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was at Stanford this time. < 1348124511 995429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently roconnor has actually been running NixOS as his primary OS for years. < 1348124516 283604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird. < 1348124521 271913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1348124529 115427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1348124533 486116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION might try it sometime.
< 1348127852 68777 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why was I under the impression that it's impossible to write a Functor in Haskell that breaks the Functor laws? < 1348127870 34368 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could swear I saw a typeclass that had laws that couldn't be broken in Haskell without cheating. < 1348127892 997730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By definition, you can't write a Functor instance that breaks the Functor laws without cheating. < 1348127957 424301 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about if I redefine "cheating" to mean "using any function whose name in the standard library begins with "unsafe"" < 1348127967 832793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway lots of instances break the Functor laws. < 1348127989 222132 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (undefined :: Int -> Int) `seq` () < 1348127990 370753 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1348127993 926092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (fmap id (undefined :: Int -> Int)) `seq` () < 1348127995 54049 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : () < 1348128051 882088 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1348128373 400503 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1348128444 838018 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the thing is that some typeclasses might have laws enforced by Haskell's type system, and a translation to Clojure would be incomplete without mentioning the laws that now won't be statically enforced. < 1348128707 346629 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-138-52.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348129948 237836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1348130008 305999 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348130017 94759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice timing < 1348130043 474946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just read your sleeping is for losers remark < 1348130080 447653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: ^ < 1348130125 330430 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1348130146 804774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess he fell asleep again < 1348130200 264673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : There was some talk on how subpages would interact with articles/languages that have /s in the names. < 1348130234 807004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reminds me, has elliott got /// fixed again? :P < 1348130255 953553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1348130287 417334 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would "fixed" mean? http://esolangs.org/wiki//// working? That sounds quite ambitious. < 1348130297 446153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it worked before! < 1348130309 643269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's even a link on the main page, which used to work < 1348130334 137249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then at some point it stopped. < 1348130400 908023 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348130414 133797 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello again < 1348130708 525805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi de ho < 1348130788 244351 :Slereah!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-174-33.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1348130847 216887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why was I under the impression that it's impossible to write a Functor in Haskell that breaks the Functor laws? < 1348130856 442068 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1348130873 794653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i think you automatically get the rest if you have fmap id = id < 1348130883 648260 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1348130893 657713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "fmap id = id" is a pretty huge requirement. :-) < 1348130919 983060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1348130997 284929 :Slereah_!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-212-114.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1348131045 107011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap (fmap id) = id < 1348132222 748001 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :If cat could be used as programming language (like described here: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Cat ) then where it reads data from. I've always thought it reads from stdin, but in this case it reads from the script, not console from which I call the script. < 1348132251 457083 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any other input stream for interpreter input? < 1348132379 366561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JaBoJa: i would call cat a language without input. < 1348132437 326431 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I'm wondering why does it work, while my program copying from cin to cout does not work as an interpreter. < 1348132438 372592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since other languages without input behave essentially the same < 1348132475 786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well your interpreter takes the program as _its_ input. < 1348132481 6746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say that works. < 1348132590 927712 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how should I write own cat? < 1348132594 993987 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meow) < 1348132600 893620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my unlambda in unlambda interpreter works similarly. and then takes the input of the program as what's remaining. (this technically disallows comments and whitespace at the end of the program i guess.) < 1348132675 820825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JaBoJa: well if you _can_ read from file you should probably support a filename argument < 1348132685 277258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, just copy input to output. < 1348132695 827403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not very strict on these matters here :P < 1348132761 74661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Cat Program article is mostly there as somewhere to link to from cat programs written in _other_ esolangs, though. < 1348132849 68213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JaBoJa: you could look at ///, it is rather similar to Cat, except that a couple of characters _don't_ just get copied to output. < 1348132933 207258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that implementation just uses perl's <> operator, which conveniently takes filenames on the command line but defaults to stdin if none are given < 1348132995 154478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, the $_ = join '', <>; < 1348133013 585189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :command reads whichever files into the $_ variable < 1348133088 667186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact if you replaced the entire while loop with just print $_; that would be a good cat (although perl can do that even simpler) < 1348133143 762392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JaBoJa: most esolang cat programs just copy input to output, anyway < 1348133166 362611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only a few esolangs support file input :) < 1348134555 356902 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading from file seems to be the only way to write own interpreter. At least under the Linux I'm using. < 1348134935 758924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that makes no sense. < 1348135001 670214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you haven't described what you are trying to do, besides that it'll be a cat. < 1348135485 647151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :SORRY, WE'RE OUT | Official channel of ESME | ESME is the best programming language. Why have you abandoned ESME? | Do not fret, ESME can forgive you. Give yourself freely to ESME. | PT6TRPA6PM6K | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1348136529 281592 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348138260 716339 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ < 1348138898 210752 :JaBoJa!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348138941 963276 :JaBoJa|!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348138942 150368 :JaBoJa!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348139764 249296 :JaBoJa|!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl NICK :jaboja < 1348139953 982897 :JaBoJa|!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348139954 77139 :jaboja!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348139962 408211 :JaBoJa|!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl NICK :jaboja < 1348139972 208907 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348140003 897993 :JaBoJa|!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348140003 991900 :jaboja!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348140082 442661 :JaBoJa|!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1348140108 877104 :JaBoJa!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348140109 64724 :JaBoJa|!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348140114 294611 :JaBoJa!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1348140153 858941 :JaBoJa|!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348140154 46228 :JaBoJa!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348140161 845252 :JaBoJa|!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl NICK :jaboja < 1348140309 552652 :jaboja!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do there exist any peyo-c (or c++) implementation? < 1348140637 572776 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1348140873 187342 :jaboja!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348140879 900039 :JaBoJa!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348140902 592654 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348140907 46122 :JaBoJa!~JaBoJa@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1348140911 455426 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348142459 108461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1348142848 947403 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1348142997 35675 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-147-76.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348143281 835259 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1348143602 70001 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-147-76.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1348145615 149339 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan was it with you I discussed how queues were not as fitted as stacks for functional use? I was reading the Random language TC stuff and I realized a queue can be implemented as a pair of stacks (one where to push and one where to pop) so it works just as fine :) < 1348145615 575420 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1348145665 81153 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1348146529 753131 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348146537 285872 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1348146542 765604 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1348146542 900205 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1348146565 402326 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I forgot about that one! < 1348146567 179957 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehehe < 1348146573 88587 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric : quintopia said 6d 21h 41m 7s ago: hi < 1348146825 740217 :Taneb!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1348147482 553626 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1348147799 328132 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1348148082 679537 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1348148095 187423 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1348148137 593038 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1348148309 716097 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348148756 909647 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1348149112 571991 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1348149708 284663 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1348151339 170884 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348152852 211956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cnn.com today is running important stories like "How to wait in an iPhone 5 line" and "Dog hates his new shoes" < 1348152870 442873 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1348152998 311748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm always amazed how apple manages to convince the "news"media to run hours of free advertisements for their products < 1348154551 286074 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-75-69.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348154558 705056 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-75-69.opaltelecom.net NICK :atriq < 1348154608 737449 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the news will do anything for a story < 1348154612 441916 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-75-69.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different computer, different settings < 1348154614 930735 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :heheh < 1348154635 290007 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-75-69.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, this computer doesn't right now have a mouse < 1348154651 775376 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh we had the news showing people lining up for iphone 5 here < 1348154759 356310 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-75-69.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1348154768 132527 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348154772 107298 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-75-69.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know how I can rig up an XBox controller to work as a mouse? < 1348155161 741234 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats an odd question. why not use a mouse? < 1348155171 60968 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-75-69.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brother stole my mouse < 1348155193 924901 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-75-69.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1348155212 179546 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.... cool... life's fun < 1348155631 275110 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :another question is is it possible to rig up some keys on your keyboard to work as a mouse < 1348155640 140802 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :until you can replace it < 1348155644 896477 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-75-69.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it is < 1348155654 407203 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-75-69.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want to actually use this XBox controller < 1348155665 914056 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just that xbox tends to be a microsoft thing < 1348155710 278809 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i have been reading lately, in directx they have replaced directinput with xinput which is designed for xbox360 controllers < 1348155739 636322 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google xbox controller as mouse < 1348155740 803522 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.instructables.com/id/Use-an-Xbox-360-controller-as-a-mouse/ < 1348155740 991347 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Use an Xbox 360 Controller as a Mouse < 1348155782 340686 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :" While this might not seem practical, it is handy when you don't have a suitable surface to use a regular mouse on. For example, when the computer you need to operate is hooked up to the TV in your living room running a bunch of emulators" worth a look < 1348155883 336727 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-75-69.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would use that link < 1348155886 427031 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-75-69.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't click it < 1348155985 743545 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm anyway its targetting windows users < 1348155992 918052 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1348156004 207270 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-75-69.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My googling indicated that most users of Ubuntu < 1348156009 499417 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-75-69.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have the opposite problem < 1348156025 843608 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :using a mouse as an xbox controller? < 1348156040 244824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: wired xbox controllers are standard USB HID devices < 1348156046 629355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :both the original xbox and the 360 < 1348156058 292183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the original they used a weird physical connector but in the 360 they went to the normal USB plug < 1348156069 751810 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-75-69.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, using an XBox controller as not a mouse < 1348156071 948079 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also get a USB adapter for the 360 wireless controllers... i don't know if its interface is standard < 1348156112 510079 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-75-69.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one's USB < 1348156132 574119 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dread the thought that if i want to stick with windows that i may have to oneday upgrade from xp < 1348156135 953184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just search for using a generic usb joystick as a mouse < 1348156235 528945 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think consensus is that 7 is not terrible. < 1348156248 777301 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But who knows, maybe in 2020 ReactOS will be half usable < 1348156305 65862 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way i see it, customers losing out is a natural consequence of the practice of business < 1348156399 197734 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically i think what happens is customers feel pain or suffering whenever a pricetag is placed between them and the things they desire < 1348156469 458042 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so business operates by separating consumers from as many desirable things as possible with pricetags < 1348156472 241939 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-75-69.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1348156486 224912 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348156503 732463 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net NICK :atriq < 1348156512 463449 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Power cut :/ < 1348156529 424675 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so you're a person I should have been updating < 1348156534 652305 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ironically a healthy planet and mentally healthy society is a desirable thing < 1348156539 94276 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I utterly didn't realize atriq = Taneb < 1348156546 133245 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore business separates us from it with pricetags < 1348156559 480268 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, it was in the topic the other week < 1348156567 61931 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot < 1348156638 86464 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No problem < 1348157034 746863 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1348157151 937146 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348158144 862217 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348158210 12293 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348158460 163581 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1348158804 865502 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1348159823 866845 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-19-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1348159844 269469 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-19-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1348159850 178075 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey < 1348160759 838986 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :>++++++++[<+++++++++>-]<.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+++++++..+++.[-]>+++++[<++++++>-]<+++. < 1348160806 876321 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf >++++++++[<+++++++++>-]<.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+++++++..+++.[-]>+++++[<++++++>-]<+++. < 1348160809 371667 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1348160896 201123 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :We eat clay | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1348161039 231839 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1348161270 276422 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-138-52.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1348161733 755295 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Gregor < 1348161832 58619 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348161840 153079 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :'allo. < 1348161859 65016 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1348161872 847486 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, clay. < 1348161893 331131 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348161904 997444 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Claylicious! < 1348161916 572879 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tastes just like inorganic matter and sadness. < 1348162104 501783 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, did you get clay on the pants of Narcissus? < 1348162141 452531 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck no! The Enchanting Pants of Narcissus remain 100% clean and amazing. < 1348162154 345750 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh thank god < 1348162280 280431 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All four pair. < 1348162284 168316 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're quite popular. < 1348162288 839115 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of buying more. < 1348162570 434248 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, The purpose of science is to serve mankind. You seem to regard science as some kind of dodge ... or hustle. Your theories are the worst kind of popular tripe, your methods are sloppy, and your conclusions are highly questionable! < 1348162654 415833 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1348162672 140931 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that addressed at me, or some other Taneb who actually sciences? < 1348162687 499975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't wanna talk to a scientist, y'all motherfuckers lyin' and gettin' me pissed < 1348162701 808861 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just a quote and i had to address it at someone < 1348162852 848901 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only other Taneb is a dead racehorse < 1348162858 242318 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :some article "Fake Scientists We (Maybe) Wish Were Real � in Pictures" < 1348162861 191583 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is in fact a quote from Ghostbusters. < 1348162913 261678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :17 awesomest nostalgic pop-culture references < 1348162967 895804 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg you were into popular things as a child??? me too!!! < 1348162981 103879 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the popular things back then were so much better than the popular things now < 1348163000 382203 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was only ever into unpopular things < 1348163009 50679 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Cubix < 1348163022 253373 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :its inconcievable that the popular things of today are as good as the popular things of several decades ago < 1348163025 374896 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit < 1348163058 301565 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-19-191.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1348163062 131140 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-19-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1348163358 369929 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1348163369 957345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm into obscure, nerdy things like video games and sci-fi action movies < 1348163387 282561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day society will accept me and then there will be a big industry for video games and sci-fi movies < 1348163428 299390 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Some day, in the far off year of 2012. < 1348163448 472704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the distant future, the year 2000 < 1348163450 241873 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was asking for that < 1348163451 585982 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now if you will excuse me, I've got an appointment for a swirly; can't miss, or worse things shall happen! < 1348163461 840581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1348163536 53173 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: Have you *seen* 60s TV? < 1348163577 158062 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm... maybe some reruns.. but im not even sure what 60s TV is < 1348163584 64684 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1348163586 161973 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :its possible i haven't < 1348163603 319799 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gilligan's Island is an example of a show that was popular in the 60s. < 1348163608 873518 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i've seen the brady bunch... < 1348163616 432869 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another example. < 1348163620 133726 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1348163628 774747 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that was early 70s. < 1348163631 347532 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude. Gilligan's Island is amazing. You'd better not be dissing Gilligan's Island. < 1348163635 961397 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm < 1348163639 94906 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to be a Professor of Everythingology. < 1348163650 202436 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1348163664 403554 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :also.. ahh what else do i see on.. the love boat, bewitched, i dream of jeannie < 1348163696 242931 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348163707 813585 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: Anyways. Many media have actually been improving *dramatically* with passing years. < 1348163725 972084 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that i can't stand most shows made this decade < 1348163738 880486 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-19-191.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1348163742 323085 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-19-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1348163744 141552 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i liked tv when it was less real < 1348163745 946202 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-19-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1348163746 902778 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember, once upon a time TOS was considered legitimately good, not just campy and silly. < 1348163764 172081 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: Sturgeon's Law dictates that that will pretty much always be true. < 1348163771 637853 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :99% of everything is, in fact, crap. < 1348163794 864919 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like seeing people behaving realistically on tv... it makes me cringe < 1348163801 658897 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1348163820 56192 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you prefer they behave? < 1348163826 659992 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-19-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think people act realistically on tv? (Just pseudo-realistically) < 1348163830 899865 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, counterpoint, Star Trek since DS9. < 1348163860 961744 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... psuedo realism is really ugly < 1348163871 169408 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Ugh. < 1348163884 34703 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: They took a mind-blowingly popular franchise and fucked it up. < 1348163902 368007 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically i think people in 2012 sitcomso about young adults act like sociopaths < 1348163943 879370 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some imagined value of sociopaths < 1348163972 398331 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've never read the tvtropes page on comedic sociopathy have you < 1348163981 889846 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i have not < 1348163991 853285 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :please do it < 1348164020 846787 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously, TNG's ratings were stellar for pretty much of its run. Which is kinda amazing, considering this is a show that was made because some people liked a 60s TV show a *bit* too much.) < 1348164039 204330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't TOS pretty early to the whole "science fiction as metaphor for real social issues" thing, as far as TV goes < 1348164064 689376 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: As far as TV shows go, it's like the second show to do it. < 1348164072 323794 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the first being, of course, Twilight Zone) < 1348164083 640987 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, when it wasn't s/science fiction/fantasy/) < 1348164084 512346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 twilight zone < 1348164091 690541 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, not much point distinguishing the two really < 1348164091 957466 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, <3 Twilight Zone. < 1348164116 522217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of TZ episodes are less traditionally sci-fi or traditionally fantasy and more what you might call magical realism < 1348164123 297272 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially when you're using it to shine a light into social issues... < 1348164139 573099 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1348164143 941670 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to consider "magical realism" a form of "fantasy", but then my notion of "fantasy" is fairly broad. < 1348164157 814206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a distinction between fantasy and sci-fi? < 1348164159 872849 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: :D i actually like a lot of these shows.. i must be thinking of some cousin of this phenomena < 1348164175 783057 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think maybe what i don't like is dramatic sociopathy if it exists < 1348164179 653813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fantasy is sci-fi with elves; sci-fi is fantasy in space < 1348164186 625346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure someone has made something with space elves < 1348164189 437372 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, well for hard sci-fi Sam Hughes' definition that "it matters how things work" is acceptable. < 1348164198 627566 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-19-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought fantasy should have medieval elements < 1348164205 993615 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But space opera is basically just fantasy with a different flavour, yes. < 1348164213 281537 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-19-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that's probably incorrect, because start wars does have medieval elements < 1348164217 235700 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-19-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*star < 1348164219 309075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some magic-and-elves fiction goes deep into how magic "works" < 1348164234 764479 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Ish. < 1348164241 756018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i expect so, it's not really my cup of tea) < 1348164256 58493 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :seinfeld, MASH, the young ones, manage to be some of my favorite shows < 1348164273 200949 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Some "sci-fi" is definitely a totally different sort of thing from fantasy, some "sci-fi" is so blatantly fantasy that the only reason it's not called that is IN SPAAACE. < 1348164294 914926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :space has a terrible power < 1348164309 775331 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, oftentimes Trek is space fantasy, in my estimation. < 1348164318 823007 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: there may be mroe going on in my aversion to certain shows than i accounted for < 1348164323 489099 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :^more < 1348164325 923514 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(often, hell. Usually.) < 1348164348 400217 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Star Trek were hard sci-fi, Spock could not be alive. < 1348164369 269296 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1348164375 229246 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Star Trek is ALWAYS space fantasy. < 1348164383 868120 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vulcans have copper-based blood. Humans have iron-based blood. Spock is half-human half-Vulcan. Need I say more. < 1348164410 880579 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Actually... Yeah, pretty much. < 1348164418 136051 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it ever nudged towards hard sci-fi. < 1348164420 736777 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technobabble is magic but with -ium and -on at the end. < 1348164423 173043 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i think it may be that i don't like any modern sitcom which is not comedic sociopathy < 1348164429 389212 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More magic in space. < 1348164460 52044 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why fantasy should have a medieval elements? It is common, because people are copying existing themes but I've read fantastic books without any medieval elements. Sometimes making use of existing comtemporary magical believs is enough to make a story an interesting fantasy book. < 1348164484 795060 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JaBoJa: I concur. < 1348164510 216787 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348164594 681258 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather, i like most of the shows listed under tvtropes SadistShow < 1348164643 595092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"medieval" typically implies european, too < 1348164664 810493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :versus fantasy based on old shit from asia, middle east, africa, aboriginal australia, etc. < 1348164667 839718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of which can be fun < 1348164685 458467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be noted that i don't actually read much sf/f and just have vague ideas of what's out there < 1348164727 328936 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-19-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sf often has elements of old cultures too, eg. star trek has romulus and remus which is obviously based on the Roman culture < 1348164736 186245 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-19-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*of other old < 1348164740 397869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blastr.com/2009/10/ron-moore-calls-star-trek.php < 1348164740 490837 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're missing quite a bit of good stuff, and absolute tons of shit. :) < 1348164783 3578 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Utterly unsurprising. < 1348164784 850462 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is battlestar galactica any good if you liked ds9 btw < 1348164859 777094 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The new BSG was good for the first few seasons. < 1348164870 961506 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, like all new sci-fi, it turned into soap opera in space.. < 1348164882 358687 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then into rather bad soap opera in space. < 1348164885 471322 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last season was utter, unforgivable garbage. < 1348164898 71823 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same happened to SG:U woooh X_X < 1348164918 970868 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(SG:U made it ALMOST a whole season before turning into soap opera in space. Almost.) < 1348164931 32021 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect they ended up using just about all the vitality the Stargate franchise had in it. < 1348164944 745637 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering SG1 ran for 10 god-damned seasons. < 1348164987 857224 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did anything not turn into soap opera in space? < 1348165010 432013 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, SG1 had hardly any space in it. :P < 1348165066 233240 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SG1 came dangerously close once or twice, but managed to stay OK. < 1348165072 807507 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roughly the same goes for Atlantis. < 1348165077 653840 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And nothing pre-2000ish did. < 1348165087 313368 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a recent phenomenon, for the most part. < 1348165123 214373 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they should make a series focusing on the mechanics of space battles < 1348165161 706425 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soooo, they should get Niven to do a TV series? < 1348165176 185886 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :u < 1348165177 498421 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1348165189 862713 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :niven didn't really go into precise space combat technicalities < 1348165209 905637 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. Duh. I dunno why I was thinking that. < 1348165216 217742 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess im thinking of like ... say.. space invaders < 1348165239 33473 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or better yet, an asteroids based on war < 1348165252 576323 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Realistic space combat is somewhat hard to televise... < 1348165257 828362 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :read project rho, it has basically everything of import mixed with a dash of snide superiority and racist undertones < 1348165260 485851 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only problem with this idea is that they need people to actually watch the shows. < 1348165263 890678 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could called it spacewar < 1348165267 767295 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think actual space combat will be quite different from space invaders < 1348165270 587868 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Secondarily, they usually want the shows to be remotely watchable in the first place. < 1348165272 80466 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What with the typical expectation being "FIGHTERS IN SPAAAACE" < 1348165283 217350 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, TOS wasn't that far off because they never had the budget to show two ships anywhere near each other. < 1348165289 322206 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Hah. < 1348165304 84008 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice observation, actually. < 1348165321 227722 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why of course, i got it off tv tropes < 1348165333 431231 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TAS actually did that, though. < 1348165337 555238 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(source, I watched TAS) < 1348165402 561266 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think multiplayer asteroids sums up best what i mean < 1348165406 495133 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, E17... < 1348165421 861985 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They recently announced a date *to announce the release date* of E17. < 1348165425 158420 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :except in 3d with fancy raycasting < 1348165455 858611 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Had they previously announced on which day they would make this announcement? :) < 1348165473 128510 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: No. < 1348165477 757307 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*snaps* < 1348165564 125737 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: and then put the opponent a couple of light-years away < 1348165574 246799 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1348165580 547786 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1348165587 227486 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :realistic space combat! < 1348165600 857189 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : They recently announced a date *to announce the release date* of E17. < 1348165610 1572 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's standard practice these days, haven't you heard < 1348165629 292603 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, that's just stupid < 1348165646 834479 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's occuring to me as i type this that space combat games were a thing and that i just missed it altogether < 1348165685 494488 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wing commander, all the 3d starwars games made before the release of episode 1 < 1348165697 143578 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1348165697 365836 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: indeed < 1348165773 783623 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :thunderbirds < 1348165796 342102 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, freespace 2 < 1348165802 694827 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody remembers freespace 2 < 1348165814 197079 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does that name sound familiar though.. < 1348165827 224701 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if my brother ever played it < 1348165835 714993 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1348165860 166414 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :just imagining things < 1348165956 361493 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348166317 736088 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1348166332 492247 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-19-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1348167115 378780 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-19-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1348167787 401325 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I don't think E17 pays attention to standard practice. < 1348167794 585014 :pikhq!~pikhq@97-121-182-160.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's in its second decade of development. < 1348167958 101907 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/usr/bin/rev < 1348167958 197088 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric : !dlrow olleH < 1348168002 517678 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(reverse variant of cat language) < 1348168098 272157 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348168495 567360 :xiaoding1!~GaoMing@58.199.170.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348168510 984283 :xiaoding1!~GaoMing@58.199.170.73 PART :#esoteric < 1348168512 619411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes tie fighter <3 < 1348168524 948601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had some janky third-party level editor for tie fighter < 1348168531 271822 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was fun as hell < 1348168538 770461 :xiaoding1!~GaoMing@58.199.170.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348168540 749620 :xiaoding1!~GaoMing@58.199.170.73 PART :#esoteric < 1348168549 862581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a bunch of star destroyers show up and start shooting at each other for no reason < 1348168739 405002 :xiaoding1!~GaoMing@58.199.170.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348168843 345365 :xiaoding1!~GaoMing@58.199.170.73 PART :#esoteric < 1348169277 426858 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, in FS2 they call that Battle of Endor Syndrome. < 1348169312 222489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348169346 552620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1348169549 679827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :We eat clay | No I don't! Well hardly any. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1348169610 83297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1348169610 377007 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen said 6h 39m 55s ago: was it with you I discussed how queues were not as fitted as stacks for functional use? I was reading the Random language TC stuff and I realized a queue can be < 1348169610 500266 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :implemented as a pair of stacks (one where to push and one where to pop) so it works just as fine :) < 1348169610 520166 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 5h 32m 13s ago: you could have just reminded me rather than making a bunch of edits I'll have to revert < 1348169657 773404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott *MWAHAHAHA* ok i promise to revert them when you fix it. < 1348169658 15422 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1348169671 377885 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, the stacks in that case would have to tied together in the middle, which is difficult, I think < 1348169678 729816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1348169742 186876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: when the pop stack is empty you need to shuffle the entire push stack onto it. < 1348169900 60033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's a working method, we've discussed it here before. < 1348169953 434968 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The shuffling's probably O(n) < 1348169959 613651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ? < 1348170028 291650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. athewordthatalwaysslipsmymind O(1) in _average_ per pop & push operation, though. < 1348170087 608597 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, yeah < 1348170127 507859 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shufflign? < 1348170129 719039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fingertrees are supposed to have O(1) push and pop. i'm not sure if that's just average, though. < 1348170132 569268 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's just reverse < 1348170147 547533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: i mean shuffle as in move over < 1348170163 237789 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if front is empty and back is of length n, then when you reverse back into front you're ok for the next n pops < 1348170197 376438 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348170227 114288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. it works. but it may not be good enough if you need realtime behavior. < 1348170287 221122 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 2-stack method is fast but with irregular pauses < 1348170321 533596 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :push x (front, back) = (front, x :: back) pop (h :: t, back) = (h, (t, back)) pop ([], []) = error pop ([], back) = pop (List.rev back, []) < 1348170416 926587 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :List.rev is O(n) < 1348170422 962503 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's where the slowness is < 1348170427 50750 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: ? < 1348170440 683864 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, he's referring to FS2/Battle of Endor Syndrome < 1348170443 191957 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making your own missions and just having a bunch of massive ships plugging away at each other. < 1348170456 755862 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With no way for the player to meaningfully influence the outcome. < 1348170751 542177 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348170814 175324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :We eat clay | No I don't! Well hardly any. | Taneb is atriq just so you know | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1348170927 198758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :We eat clay | No I don't! Well hardly any. | Taneb is atriq just so you know | My other Taneb is a dead racehorse | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1348171211 503381 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net NICK :atriq < 1348171257 66215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU RUINED THE TOPIC < 1348171269 269722 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb < 1348171270 661170 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINE < 1348171272 924313 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BE THAT WAY < 1348171282 902730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :always. < 1348171310 854993 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net TOPIC #esoteric :We eat clay | No I don't! Well, hardly any. | Taneb is atriq, just so you know | My other Taneb is a dead racehorse | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1348171317 20884 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was bugging me < 1348171334 276558 :ion!ion@heh.fi TOPIC #esoteric :We eat clay | No I don't! Well, hardly any. | 我能吞下粘土而不伤身体。| Taneb is atriq, just so you know | My other Taneb is a dead racehorse | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1348171493 820221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn single-spacists < 1348171504 218571 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the commas < 1348171682 176219 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1348171726 787367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but but but < 1348171738 204816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't the protagonists on the forest moon of endor have a critical influence on the outcome? < 1348171846 991105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is the word "amortized"? < 1348171862 488434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1348171876 178607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to be careful about distinguishing between average-case analysis and amortized analysis, though < 1348171898 708177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"amortized O(1)" means that even in the worst case, a sufficiently long series of operations is *guaranteed* to average out to O(1) < 1348171974 292268 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if xe're still talking about the two-stack queue then yes that's it < 1348172063 757405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is an interesting relationship between amortized analysis and lazy data structures < 1348172088 752554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see: Okasaki's book < 1348172183 890994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this arises when you're working with functional / persistent data structures < 1348172218 81808 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone might hold on to an "old version" of the data structure and use it again in the future < 1348172246 225862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the two-stack queue, i can hold on to the ([], back) state and execute that pop over and over < 1348172250 85156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which breaks the amortized guarantee < 1348172282 526920 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :interestingly, when I type "okasaki" in google it gives me crappy unrelated results, and suggests that I try "okazaki" instead. so I do, and it gives me relevant results with "okasaki" in the title < 1348172294 466907 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but laziness involves updating thunks in place, which means the work is shared with "old version"s < 1348172335 713842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you use this to avoid spending the amortized "credits" more than once < 1348173055 648046 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: that's dr. turing to you, punk < 1348173075 261686 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348173085 768228 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1348173482 884597 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348173537 41436 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348173580 152244 :monqy_!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348173598 431588 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1348173602 793453 :monqy_!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net NICK :monqy < 1348173946 396970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JaBoJa: you know rev only reverses each line separately, right? < 1348173994 822862 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1348174128 624860 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1348174139 377582 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1348174140 577956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rev | tac < 1348174152 777699 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self.. putting it simply minimize validation to allow cheats and glitches to work, and accidents to be interesting, and random data to be valid < 1348174280 565511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also let the uranium flow freely < 1348174305 655504 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is there any way to use such a construct as an interpreter of shell script? < 1348174330 256114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which? < 1348174367 244353 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :rev|tac < 1348174559 904817 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1348174596 64287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what you mean < 1348174606 388159 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just reverses every line and reverses the order of lines < 1348174718 44116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even rev or cat alone don't really work for #! i think: the #! line itself gets printed < 1348174802 472543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if that is ok, you can probably do it with more than one shell line initially... < 1348174811 378866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't remember the syntax
< 1348174838 580532 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried, | does not work in interpreter definiotion (i.e. #!...) < 1348174894 436146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew that. but you can put #!/bin/sh and then have some exec command as the next line < 1348174962 404435 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it counts as cheating, as it becomes sh-script, not cat-script :P < 1348174983 642056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah. but | is a sh construction. < 1348175010 587662 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I understand now :) < 1348175057 262866 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1348175231 172935 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-81-114.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1348175280 14075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should write a shell script which is valid for all of sh, tac | sh, rev | sh, rev | tac | sh < 1348175285 324178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and does something different and interesting in each case < 1348175422 789788 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348175466 873223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other day I bought a recycling can from amazon < 1348175470 775411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it came in a cardboard box < 1348175480 375101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took the can out of the box, broke down the box, and put it in the can < 1348175482 120630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was amazing < 1348175586 71004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like something escher would have painted, if he'd thought of it < 1348175975 143223 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1348176017 69647 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348176246 362009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote the other day I bought a recycling can from amazon it came in a cardboard box i took the can out of the box, broke down the box, and put it in the can it was amazing < 1348176257 388361 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :862) the other day I bought a recycling can from amazon it came in a cardboard box i took the can out of the box, broke down the box, and put it in the can it was amazing < 1348176615 601051 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should've taken pictures < 1348177299 485827 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :LexShrapnel < 1348177721 305498 :LexShrapnel!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1348178189 548301 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone name a type of hoover, quick < 1348178240 157951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :electrolux < 1348178270 692380 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :volta < 1348178304 825677 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but these are brands < 1348178307 86110 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, kirby's a type of hoover < 1348178311 988658 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant brand < 1348178386 242199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1348178689 348265 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1348178762 351592 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348178872 219814 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1348179869 730960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1348181287 900902 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1348181615 503144 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1348182196 944550 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1348183163 403415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad beef < 1348183226 570455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bade beef farewell 15 years ago.
< 1348183917 784766 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-147-76.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1348184210 170041 :JaBoJa|2!~kvirc@esb200.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1348184375 159247 :JaBoJa!~kvirc@erv164.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1348184603 395211 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You guys. < 1348184612 804177 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lost in a world of neotango electronica fusion. < 1348184615 902245 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's weird and confusing. < 1348184616 883673 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help me. < 1348184620 988180 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, what did beef do