< 1347321696 367837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://habrahabr.ru/post/151203/ < 1347321700 663894 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crazy people. < 1347321810 818982 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: this is a gif which is also a wav? < 1347321838 822988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1347321860 366660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They used my GIF player thing for it. It almost makes me want to make it not so dreadfully inefficient. < 1347321907 288481 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :гиф < 1347321911 740733 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wrote jsgif? < 1347321923 991525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1347321950 762468 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1347321953 12205 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what for? < 1347321995 751076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was annoyed at not being able to step frame-by-frame through animations. < 1347322024 283380 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was some of the sorting algorithm animations on Wikipedia. < 1347322033 808401 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I decided to do something entirely client-side. < 1347322349 975075 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I downloaded 152 GB last night < 1347322354 518938 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope my ISP is ok with that < 1347322420 916026 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah i know how that is.. < 1347322448 63599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot of GBs. < 1347322463 629811 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :some nights you get so web-drunk that 152gb just gets downloaded before you know it < 1347322498 835422 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i have about 108 GB of DVDs i want to rip, and no space for them < 1347322627 775620 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that 152gb is feasible < 1347322655 395563 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was all port hahaha < 1347322657 671383 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1347322721 994540 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took about 16.5 hours < 1347322757 434787 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that downloading could be fun if you had no reason to stop < 1347322809 565659 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :who am i kidding < 1347322852 904805 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to rip DVDs :/ < 1347322883 299222 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want to decrypt the VOBs and leave them intact otherwise; it looks like vobcopy can do this < 1347322894 579020 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cyber-criminal < 1347322921 415934 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair abuse < 1347322947 175799 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1347323000 835067 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the laws may be clear on these matters, i think maybe new words are needed to help discriminate the various types of property trading now possible in digital age < 1347323147 965035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: apt-get install dvdbackup < 1347323151 69558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ dvdbackup -M < 1347323158 543662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you have libdvdcss.) < 1347323162 296705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION >>= undefined < 1347323190 19944 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me, I need to get vlc from debian-multimedia < 1347323193 924609 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ffmpeg < 1347323273 868490 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: cool < 1347323327 905570 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :questions like: did you pay? were you expected to pay? is there a physical embodiment? is it computer data? do they know you took it? did they expect you not to take it? does the person who traded it away still have it? < 1347323380 608159 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :words like buy and download simply don't represent all these ideas very unambiguously < 1347323642 831908 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION consumes a delicious butter-sugar-chocolate food disc < 1347323735 135954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you like a defibrillator with that? < 1347323738 367344 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You gluttonous consumer < 1347323944 161152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gluteus maximus < 1347324124 991630 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1347324507 537945 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i ate one cookie, i'm gonna die of a heart attack for sure < 1347324630 935321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't die of a heart atteck, it wasn't delicious enough! < 1347324729 505764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a < 1347324880 474514 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1347324913 817121 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1347325338 466671 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1347325540 245595 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Excess Flood < 1347325648 665148 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do common UNIX-like systems all support invoking the "default" C compiler as cc? < 1347325864 89144 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The default compiler may be cc, but your default compiler is always gcc. < 1347325903 107130 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even on recent OS X? what about solaris? < 1347325913 748538 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i'm asking "can i write cc in a shell script and have it dtrt" < 1347325916 726476 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I have no idea < 1347325935 85721 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not use CC anyway < 1347325960 622904 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$CC isn't typically set in the shell < 1347325964 923804 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shell, not makefile < 1347325972 829671 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps bonghits will fix my build script < 1347326008 584477 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, so set it at the top < 1347326040 406391 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't get me anything < 1347326098 909852 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easier to fix then < 1347326161 86612 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1347326288 978956 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes but i'm only invoking cc once in this script < 1347326304 889823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gsp.com/cgi-bin/man.cgi?section=1&topic=c89 says there should be one named c89 < 1347326322 947957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in posix < 1347326375 341109 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot about posix < 1347326383 782293 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun < 1347326395 235483 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :cygwin does not provide c89. < 1347326409 850748 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you give a shit < 1347326410 358002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even funner < 1347326426 254489 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That tool does not exist in current POSIX, only older versions of POSIX. < 1347326428 263035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cc link in the above redirects to gcc fwiw < 1347326434 521450 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :POSIX 2008 specifies c99 however. < 1347326438 926338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: sheesh. so what ... ok < 1347326441 184672 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: does it provide cc? < 1347326453 845777 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1347326456 858130 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the POSIX c89 / c99 also have standard command-line syntax? < 1347326469 415332 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :See above < 1347326471 781899 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes. < 1347326477 596360 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: They function as you expect. < 1347326486 483651 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not provide cc I don't think. < 1347326516 370999 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, real-world UNIX-like systems generally have cc. < 1347326528 515841 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :${CC:=cc} would be the right thing. < 1347326535 845135 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or ${CC:=c99} if you mean C99. < 1347326541 596407 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :cc is usually assumed to be gcc, or be a compiler that works like gcc < 1347326545 128537 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like clang < 1347326557 830544 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(${CC:=cc} evaluates to CC, or cc if CC is unset, and if CC is unset, sets CC to cc.) < 1347326613 760563 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1347326627 798069 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll use ${CC:-cc} < 1347326634 744406 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems reasonable. < 1347326646 18871 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worst-case scenario someone has to tell it the compiler. < 1347326743 485702 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you can do what configure scripts do < 1347326752 628553 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Checking for usable C compiler..." < 1347326775 255580 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know why configure scripts do that < 1347327150 220363 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to fail earlier, maybe < 1347327564 882959 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: It's dain bramage. < 1347327977 137410 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347328100 694907 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.175 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347328526 510629 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok heres a strange question < 1347328550 795000 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am monolingual. < 1347328580 461212 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :many people are bilingual. < 1347328619 501032 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :occasioanlly some people know quite a lot of languages and known as polyglots < 1347328630 887158 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :riiiiiight < 1347328671 389670 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to WP, Nikola Tesla could speak Serbian, Czech, English, French, German, Hungarian, Italian, and Latin. < 1347328694 24646 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dr José Rizal (1861–1896), could speak 22 languages. < 1347328735 316113 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, a whole 4 language families on Tesla. < 1347328766 671412 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now the thought i have is, are there computer-programmer equivalents to this Dr Jose Rizal < 1347328784 167182 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, you mean programmers that know 22 languages? < 1347328787 3614 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, trivially. < 1347328802 27032 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereby, it is not simply that they have read 22 sams programming books < 1347328817 830934 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Again, trivially. < 1347328819 368803 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they have some advanced capacity < 1347328825 145044 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya.. ur right < 1347328828 289225 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivially < 1347328834 478426 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Gregor's nearing that point in programming languages *implemented*. < 1347328844 258308 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Oy, how many programming languages have you done? < 1347328858 953986 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Count esolangs, those were interesting and nontrivial. < 1347328862 485096 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming languages are mostly dialects of each other < 1347328953 768397 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently daniel tammet learned icelandic in a week < 1347328973 507866 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I understand, he learned basic icelandic in a week. < 1347328982 444431 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sam's Learn Icelandic in 7 Days < 1347328994 683960 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably not that difficult eh :P media exaggerations? < 1347329001 487681 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which TBH is about the rate anyone could learn basic bits in nearly any language. < 1347329002 762423 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything for a story < 1347329019 160690 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except maybe ones with really hard (for them) phonemes... < 1347329154 260588 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess what i am pondering is whether programming is something you can be good at to such a degree that they make a film like rainman about you < 1347329168 119089 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :being good at programing != knowing a lot of programming languages < 1347329182 261878 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing how common this confusion is < 1347329184 44346 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well thats fair enough. i won't dispite that < 1347329189 222855 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :^dispute < 1347329192 106988 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in truth, which programming language you use just doesn't matter much < 1347329192 125397 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Rainman was not exactly a documentary. :) < 1347329206 480737 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hnn < 1347329231 936341 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you want someone like that, uh... < 1347329234 622935 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fabrice Bellard. < 1347329239 413370 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need I say more. < 1347329383 748444 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when programmers get famous in popular (non-programmer) culture, it's not typically for being extraordinarily good at programming < 1347329413 905811 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually they made something boring and derivative which became extremely popular < 1347329414 587656 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i think they don't have a name for what fabrice has done < 1347329423 138516 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :either through luck or through clever but non-programming-related decisions < 1347329429 407945 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mark zuckerberg, linus torvalds, bill gates < 1347329439 885654 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories: < 1347329440 227516 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1972 births < 1347329440 246266 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric : Living people < 1347329440 246433 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric : École Polytechnique alumni < 1347329440 246538 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric : French computer programmers < 1347329440 607646 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric : People from Grenoble < 1347329442 310740 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric : French computer scientists < 1347329444 259297 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops... newlines < 1347329450 82584 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :these people might be excellent programmers (i've heard gates in particular is), but that's not actually why they're famous < 1347329541 914707 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems one article title labeled him "super-productive programmer" but i sure hope that title doesn't become common < 1347329580 353416 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn prolific < 1347329580 965406 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "prolific" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1347329580 984021 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolific < 1347329580 984188 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: intellectually productive; "a prolific writer"; "a fecund < 1347329581 2573 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : imagination" [syn: {fecund}, {fertile}, {prolific}] < 1347329581 2744 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: bearing in abundance especially offspring; "flying foxes are < 1347329582 966505 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : extremely prolific"; "a prolific pear tree" [syn: {prolific}, < 1347329584 967567 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : {fertile}] < 1347329742 431210 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I name Bellard as it in particular just because any *one* project of his would be a moderately impressive feat. < 1347329760 926672 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or insanely impressive... < 1347329764 51676 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qemu, for instance. < 1347329780 139887 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is strictly speaking an overgrown side project of tcc. < 1347329786 543799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION  < 1347329790 291335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did it work? < 1347329805 192463 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which was an overgrown side project of an ioccc entry < 1347329832 818043 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(qemu grew out of Bellard's attempts to write a somewhat more generic backend scheme for tcc... He realised that if he just stuck a disassembler on the front of it he'd have an emulator, and tada.) < 1347329997 840265 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah < 1347330009 31028 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did what work? < 1347330023 328161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DVD thing. < 1347330031 344397 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have the DVDs yet < 1347330034 503503 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are arriving tomorrow < 1347330057 480002 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Wire: The Complete Series on 23 DVDs < 1347330106 773337 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :23dvds... thats quite a signifigant number of dvds < 1347330149 352498 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or 4 Blurays. < 1347330150 374621 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is possibly the most profound thing i have ever heard in my life < 1347330177 480885 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't have it on blu-ray < 1347330188 460500 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can get _Man on Wire_ on blu-ray which is also good < 1347330339 273875 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347330358 257909 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1347330459 446481 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if these are DVD-5 but it is plausible < 1347330463 554639 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about 61 hours of video < 1347330579 889291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :DVDV < 1347330608 773844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Is this related to the hundreds of GBs you downloaded recently? < 1347330695 989516 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1347330716 768966 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"is that like DVDA" < 1347330851 384596 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is slowly installing perl and git on a FreeBSD EC2 micro instance < 1347330858 952061 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is gentoo before gentoo was a thing < 1347330881 948537 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i spent yesterday pimping my bash prompt, what else should i add? < 1347330935 719456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Last command exit status indicator? < 1347330994 57896 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have that, < 1347331005 110347 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the usual $ turns into a red '!' if the last command failed < 1347331012 337651 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1347331034 59158 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also displays the hostname and the working directory (with custom abbreviations) < 1347331043 392859 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the latter is used as the tmux / screen window name < 1347331128 592306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a productive day. < 1347331140 615628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION 's prompt is '\u@\h:\w\$ ' < 1347331142 17564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or so. < 1347331238 480146 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should switch to zsh, it has better hooks for fancy stuff < 1347331263 147030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should too. < 1347331269 356783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried a couple times but it's such a hassle. < 1347331294 956369 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so < 1347331325 51507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember. < 1347331330 909560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things don't work right. < 1347331339 704137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION = old and set in ways. :-( < 1347331360 556529 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, before yesterday i was using a prompt i had stole from i think Red Hat 6.x < 1347331370 839242 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably used that prompt for 10 years < 1347331379 711227 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :PROMPT="%(?..%B%F{red}[%?]%f%b) %B%F{blue}$USER@%2m%f%b:%B%2c%b %F{magenta}%*%f%# " < 1347331382 55197 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no i used some wacky gentoo prompt for a while < 1347331412 880666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, those had fancy colours. < 1347331633 85005 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347331658 832231 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obligatory link to http://eseth.org/2009/nethack-term.html < 1347332852 510783 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1347332900 625407 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1347333378 648764 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1347333411 976881 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1347333525 826693 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1347333582 739609 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1347334139 71970 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1347335596 185731 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/08/06 this somehow feels cogent < 1347336341 47414 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :much much less funny when i realize that zyngis is a reference to zynga, and that zynga's logo is a dog < 1347336411 405659 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1347336415 443117 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347337035 790676 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1347337086 610101 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-123-15.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347337723 119092 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1347338504 734680 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-123-15.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1347339472 177929 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1347340944 676187 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah stupid freebsd, this is taking forever and it's not even funrolling my loops < 1347341007 372393 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Content-type: application/octet-stream < 1347341010 657543 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Content-type: dunno/lol < 1347341673 611894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1347341871 421619 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh wow http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/10/aig-stock-sale-vindicates-treasury-bailout.html < 1347345323 881016 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not like this word "metric ton"; it should not be called a "ton", a "tonne", or a "metric ton"; it should be called a "megagram", isn't it? < 1347345383 267919 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kilokilogram < 1347345463 759135 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer megagram. < 1347345482 993502 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same number of syllables, but much more systematic. < 1347345530 681101 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, whoever put US traditional units in my most recent chem assignment should be shot. < 1347345536 1233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My megagramma has a megagramo' stuff in her system attic. < 1347345562 306429 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Science = fuck you, I want sane units. < 1347345563 299984 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought "metric ton" was a figure of speech < 1347345571 479854 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No, it's a megagram. < 1347345602 300855 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a non-SI unit accepted for use with SI. < 1347345604 803840 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because fuck you. < 1347345644 745241 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A metric tone us one defined using decibels instead of cents. < 1347345723 849887 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is that? I don't think that works. < 1347345742 538074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 dB ~= 400 cents? < 1347345774 311004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, is that how it works? < 1347346099 659139 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where does that come from? < 1347346217 767098 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cents are pretty metric already, actually. < 1347346224 272020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cent_(music) < 1347346260 490586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's very simple, really. < 1347346271 21622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :An octave is called an octave because it's divided into 12 parts. < 1347346287 892039 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the link was enough. < 1347346294 16139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those parts are called semitones. < 1347346302 807463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seven semitones make a fifth, and five semitones make a fourth. < 1347346317 572406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A perfect fifth and a perfect fourth, that is.) < 1347346322 117553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That certainly makes sense. < 1347346326 488250 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/fifth/equal-tempered perfect fifth/ < 1347346345 348283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: OK, fine. < 1347346365 385616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A perfect fifth is a factor of 3/2, but they approximate it by 2^(7/12) < 1347346387 826692 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a just perfect fifth is 3/2. An equal-tempered perfect fifth is 2^(7/12). < 1347346409 531377 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone ever use decibels for ratios of frequencies? < 1347346432 742537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1347346434 61812 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to use decibels for ratios of frequencies? < 1347346454 80104 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt anyone ever uses cents for anything but ratios of frequencies. < 1347346467 55543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite the fact that 2 is a much more sensible base for your logarithm than 10! < 1347346480 836006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's much more natural, when you're dealing with integers. < 1347346550 646258 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently people use "dB-Hz" for measuring bandwidth; it's relative to 1 Hz. < 1347346605 45070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :30 dB-Hz is a kilohertz. < 1347346632 804860 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though there's no citation for this, so maybe someone just invented it for Wikipedia. < 1347346815 677990 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, screw the decibel. Base 10 log is silly. < 1347346829 450241 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln and lb por favor < 1347346860 745524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't forget to divide by 12. < 1347346905 870215 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, now I can see how dB-Hz can be used like that. But I have never heard of it before. < 1347346925 173133 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = "(" + x + ")/12" < 1347347065 225902 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :more fun is multiplication by 10 < 1347347088 246860 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = x + "0" < 1347347101 327044 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i know it won't always work < 1347347211 193550 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = "5.0" ... < 1347348040 556464 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know they are integers, it could be used, such as a shell script dd count=`wc -l`0 ... < 1347348147 330312 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1347349508 355406 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133613.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347349909 802076 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1347351216 928694 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1347351290 941542 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i disagree with reason 2 in Joel's software link, "They create to many exit points in a function", you still have just as many exit points if not more with C only code not using exceptions < 1347351735 701408 :soundnfury!~edward@static-87-243-208-102.adsl.hotchilli.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, Joel exists purely for the purpose of being disagreed with < 1347351764 188160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundnfury: You should have a nick with numbers in it. < 1347351779 673045 :soundnfury!~edward@static-87-243-208-102.adsl.hotchilli.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? Just because everyone else does? < 1347351795 639165 :soundnfury!~edward@static-87-243-208-102.adsl.hotchilli.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can't change his nick < 1347351827 764468 :soundnfury!~edward@static-87-243-208-102.adsl.hotchilli.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have to keep it the same as my NAO username < 1347351840 776067 :soundnfury!~edward@static-87-243-208-102.adsl.hotchilli.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so's I get alerted when Rodney reports my deaths < 1347352476 18093 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347352567 996096 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133613.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1347356007 638605 :soundnfury!~edward@static-87-243-208-102.adsl.hotchilli.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow... apparently someone at the /New Yorker/ knows about diareses ("reënter") < 1347357207 239845 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au NICK :itidus < 1347357225 88815 :itidus!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au NICK :tidus < 1347357233 506973 :tidus!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au NICK :itidus21 < 1347357262 302194 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... tidus was registered at least < 1347357298 463451 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347358435 489941 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347359005 840653 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347359022 738499 :Lumpio-!~user@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347359029 263043 :Lumpio-!~user@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1347359454 940302 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B131FA6.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347360285 413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :__ ___ < 1347362036 337310 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was watching a show this morning < 1347362091 800968 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i live in america" "i thought you lived in new york" "new york is in america" < 1347362986 444789 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: I'm pretty sure you're wrong, I have a map of the United Kingdom here and there's a city named York... Sur New York must be in the uk too < 1347363123 629747 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was some old show with zsa zsa gabor < 1347364591 247293 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Quit: kill -INT 1 < 1347365842 197600 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :New York is the name for the new construction in York made in the late 1700s. < 1347366010 964347 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-123-15.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347366728 305016 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1347367928 287964 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-123-15.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1347369692 889968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1347369699 936454 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1347371057 698378 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1347371891 140394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1347372283 260892 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-65-102.singnet.com.sg QUIT :Quit: mig22 < 1347372593 368924 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347372854 501708 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B131FA6.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1347375165 208386 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@static.84.17.63.178.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1347375429 498309 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347375718 186813 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god viddler have started charging for any account using over 2GB of bandwidth per month. < 1347375728 802352 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Way to commit financial suicide, guys. < 1347375931 786547 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1347376064 62712 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If more than 2GB of bandwidth is spent watching your videos, they email you saying you have to pay up or they'll delete the account. < 1347376126 238368 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you think everyone will just leave viddler? < 1347376127 986626 :Lumpio-!~user@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But 2GB is nothing < 1347376233 396291 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, the charge is $50/month for 200GB of bandwidth. < 1347376306 835447 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that was being asked of a fairly small Let's Play outfit. < 1347376385 218358 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So whilst holding customers who don't have backups to ransom might work, something tells me it's not going to work for long. < 1347376758 211590 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: so first people pay 50$ for 200GB, and then suddenly they're told their 50$ cover only for the first 2GB, and the remaining 198GB have to be paid again? < 1347376784 478452 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, 2GB is just the threshold for a free account. < 1347377879 841273 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the Youtube threshold is infinity. < 1347377941 734092 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347378019 632779 :augur!~augur@206.196.184.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347378058 599090 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1347378058 654516 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1347378061 403400 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1347378064 193759 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm popular < 1347378066 978835 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1347378066 998356 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen said 16h 48m 32s ago: "Brook... with the gimmick that the program can produce and immediately execute a potentially infinite length program written in Brook." I'm not sure what you mean - < 1347378067 16903 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I look at the instruction set I feel like it's basically Fueue, except the program and the data queue are separated. what am I missing? < 1347378067 35945 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen said 16h 32m 1s ago: oh and I noticed the truth-machine fueue program from the truth-machine wiki page doesn't work. it first tries to print "-48", then (assuming the interpreter hasn't < 1347378067 36104 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :crashed already) turns into a cat (because the two main blocks are never unblocked, the ($ turns into [$], and the + never has two arguments < 1347378087 312396 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out the two messages were from the same user, sorry :( < 1347378101 825471 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, Brook is a lot more like brainfuck with a different kind of loop < 1347378132 881596 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also, I never tested the truth-machine in Fueue < 1347378139 205394 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than just writing it out < 1347378141 668456 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but did you mean that brook could modify its own code? < 1347378145 322213 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1347378156 924103 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sort of emits a new program which is run first < 1347378168 649930 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And has access to a different tape < 1347378177 866386 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I tested it with both my interpreters, the C one turned into a cat while the ocaml one raised Failure "char_of_int" < 1347378207 186212 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I looke dmore closely and noticed yoru program tried to print -48, and the blocks were never unblocked < 1347378220 651072 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that's a problem < 1347378228 88714 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was probably asleep when I wrote it, heh < 1347378237 202783 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike what my user page says, I'm not a super human. < 1347378244 339692 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just provide an alternative male perspective. < 1347378266 676115 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a truth-machine is quite hard to implement in fueue, because of the "one complete no-op rotation" you have to have in order to get input, and then this input alone is supposed to de-no-op the queue < 1347378294 493646 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, yeah < 1347378353 391038 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1347378369 816650 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and input are numeric values, which can only interfere with +, -, *, /, %, $, but none of those commands would deblock anything < 1347378379 317623 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347378414 955274 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I was wondering: where does the "F" in fueue come from ? < 1347378428 120193 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It stands for "functional" < 1347378496 652434 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, makes sense < 1347378530 869961 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'll try to look into Brook again but as someone pointed out on the talk page it's quite hard to understand :p < 1347378563 62860 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was designed to be tricky < 1347378568 452909 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hard to prove Turing-complete < 1347378965 410078 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@static.84.17.63.178.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427] < 1347380084 652919 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1347380623 265372 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1347380707 755555 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1347381148 210923 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1347381339 186243 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1347382284 700019 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347382942 873174 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a keynote computer music guy from CMU today. < 1347383007 250294 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some Roger B. Dannenberg guy, been doing Audacity apparently. < 1347385113 157285 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1347385228 794389 :augur!~augur@206.196.184.41 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347385290 418774 :augur!~augur@206.196.184.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347385345 872653 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.160.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347385954 853647 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1347385978 357201 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347386015 218740 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-137-36.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347386489 734355 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heard this today: "I googled it on Amazon" < 1347386801 553127 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.160.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone here edit code on Android? I've installed a few code editors, just wondering which one you prefer to work with? < 1347386814 588570 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347386830 75401 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :edit code on android? sounds incredibly painful < 1347386974 880584 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.160.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a bluetooth keyboard? < 1347387020 451427 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, with a real keyboard < 1347387044 353035 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plenty of android devices have laptop-style keyboards < 1347387047 331252 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. eee pad transformer < 1347387055 961552 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :android runs on lots of different kinds of hardware < 1347387077 887401 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in lithuania i rode a bus which had an android-based seat back entertainment system < 1347387085 205284 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was loaded with very obviously pirated music and movies < 1347387369 28659 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.160.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone tried one of those Laser projection keyboards? < 1347387483 266960 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have one; the bluetooth interface is proprietary < 1347387529 325601 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some third party reverse engineered the protocol for the one i have, and they made a demo app but want you to pay money for actually using it < 1347387534 86660 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the performance in the demo app is shit < 1347387692 960723 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words, happy reverse engineering to build your own? < 1347387726 203148 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it takes a while for changes to ripple through the timelines" < 1347387739 181681 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :eww, star trek is not supposed to be so timey wimey bally < 1347387807 249594 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other models might have better interfgaces < 1347387831 107113 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :doctor who is at least overtly timey wimey < 1347387951 948759 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, and apparently they're going to be away from the enterprise while they're off time travelling, long enough to need an excuse ... can't they just return from the time they left? < 1347387956 213389 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to the time < 1347388141 507691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1347388224 478932 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: here, have some best practices: http://code.jonwagner.com/2012/09/11/best-practices-when-to-not-use-asynchronous-programming/ < 1347388389 537450 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.160.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that the celluon keyboard? < 1347388409 678064 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i have? i don't think so, not sure < 1347388419 949008 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got it for free from someone who also couldn't get it to do anything useful ;P < 1347388425 472966 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's sitting at the bottom of a box somewhere < 1347388435 345812 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks cool tho < 1347388483 576756 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.160.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently one of them can be set as a virtual piano keyboard. < 1347388491 591173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Unlike what my user page says, I'm not a super human. <-- shocking < 1347388545 998011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think a truth-machine is quite hard to implement in fueue, because of the "one complete no-op rotation" you have to have in order to get input, and then this input alone is supposed to de-no-op the queue < 1347388572 53445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i found out that would be awkward. although not so awkward that distinguishing _one_ character is impossible. hm... < 1347388628 363305 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :john_smith < 1347388649 770654 :john_smith!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1347388650 748615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically only $ is capable of doing nothing, then triggering on a single number appearing < 1347388689 948733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :after one round < 1347389008 725803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: OKAY THANKS < 1347389036 679929 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1347389160 454854 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.toothycat.net/~hologram/Turing/HowItWorks.html YES! < 1347389164 963970 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic The Gathering is TC. < 1347389188 953180 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet < 1347389191 818400 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So are bathroom tiles, fwiw < 1347389213 965398 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, Wang Tiles are) < 1347389231 471111 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe wang < 1347389242 988034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: How much of the keyboard thing is done in software? < 1347389247 285148 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1347389262 412342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think after that wolfram TM etc. brouhaha i think i'd reserve the word "universal" instead of TC for those bathroom tiles < 1347389285 544944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :things get fishy when there's infinite setup or finish < 1347389325 197654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess there's a TC decision problem in there < 1347389334 757518 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not strictly speaking halting < 1347389390 637798 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's a way of translating turing machines to sets of tiles that tile the plane and only repeat if the turing machine halts or something < 1347389458 570007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm they repeat? i thought they couldn't tile the plane at all then, but i never learned that bit of the proof < 1347389465 136606 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1347389472 623133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if oklopol were here he could tell us < 1347389535 512550 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not advanced enough in the arcane arts of mathematics to understand it, most likely < 1347389543 5724 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I officially learnt about groups today < 1347389709 333406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1347389734 742943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION turns atriq upside down, then twists him leftwards, then mirrors him < 1347389760 333157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION then dies as atriq explodes as antimatter < 1347389779 84589 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION becomes PURE ENERGY < 1347389792 39375 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is not as awesome as it sounds at all < 1347389815 101365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no rest anymore < 1347389854 563770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :*.net *.split < 1347389854 582304 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1347389924 465228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1347390184 440134 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if Pokemon cards are turing complete < 1347390402 915596 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Magic: the Gathering is TC; now you told me for sure. < 1347390418 327380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :About Pokemon card, though, there is a limit to the number of cards so it might not be. < 1347390702 704349 :mjrosenb!~mjrosenb@INDIUM.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1347390795 720094 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yu-Gi-Oh? < 1347391034 596294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that game well enough. < 1347391173 258032 :myndzi!~myndzi@71-35-133-36.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1347391220 206265 :myndzi!~myndzi@71-35-161-1.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347391638 273699 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Sopio is < 1347391710 665074 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can use Junkyard Dave and get two queues like that, but then you'd need an infinite hand, which you can't have < 1347391732 716494 :myndzi!~myndzi@71-35-161-1.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347392013 76593 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the MtG turing machine uses life counters (or whatever those numbers mean) to store cards' indexes in the queues, and pops the top card by hurting all cards by one and seeing what died < 1347392054 527290 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b7be8.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you'd need infinite credit. it would make it turing complete but on the other side it'd have some ruinous affect on inflation < 1347392157 792502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: Arc_Koen: plz test )$!![[)[~~~~()+1])])][[)[~H~+32])])][)~[0]] < 1347392229 730547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well one of you at least < 1347392339 109938 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347392407 311283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION downloads the c interpreter < 1347392414 838888 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prints P for 0, Q for 1 < 1347392425 569079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1347392436 522827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord <$> "01PQ" < 1347392437 352679 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [48,49,80,81] < 1347392446 241333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep that's correct < 1347392461 788059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then halts without more input, right? < 1347392467 111580 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1347392493 469729 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, converts capital letters to lower case < 1347392497 314707 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One letter at a time < 1347392505 548263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, then to replace the ~H~+32 part < 1347392796 779232 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1347392830 672485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to get fueue input working < 1347392841 48013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fix the truth machine < 1347392844 971733 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Basically. < 1347392868 589399 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: And lazily expands the queues. < 1347392900 753040 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :impressive < 1347392930 568535 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I liked that, the most-alive card is one that expands the tape by spawning the appropriate other card when it dies < 1347393001 319283 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wait, the C interpreter is not the right version < 1347393032 596626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. well it worked for this program. < 1347393090 251795 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I'm not sure actually < 1347393110 215701 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember that important changes had been made since that version but I can't remember which < 1347393123 60526 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it's already imperative instead of recursive < 1347393133 398320 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you meet any problems please elt me know < 1347393148 629457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1347393295 717474 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, I think the main differences are the use of union types, and a memory leak fix < 1347393305 23432 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is particularly important for infinite loop < 1347393817 679831 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is the !! used to delay input? < 1347393856 262299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's used to fix the spot where the input will appear < 1347393882 824886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by being the last thing to execute < 1347393914 268950 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not simply rotate the initial program to have the spot already at an extremity? < 1347393918 367469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess ... right < 1347394126 874142 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah < 1347394143 384273 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when using --print it turns out the program goes a *very* long way before halting < 1347394207 64306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it basically has do duplicate a number of blocks equal to the character read, then run them once, then run the leftovers once < 1347394295 9749 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1347394349 432139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see any other way than )$[...] of getting an input number into a form that can be handled < 1347394394 420911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe something with <$[...] could work but that's going to be even worse < 1347394490 6219 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm does fueue accept empty blocks? < 1347394493 792426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a ) is needed at some point anyway < 1347394522 939612 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: are empty blocks legal? < 1347394528 309072 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1347394540 356901 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1347394552 464819 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never actually thought about this < 1347394556 729882 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they are < 1347394564 982574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's just that since you don't need any other argument to create an empty block, there's no use having a function _other_ than [] for it < 1347394593 463112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347394612 80385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like underload doesn't have anything but () for it either < 1347394750 318443 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1347394801 545676 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahah < 1347394808 728808 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I'll have to revise my interpreter then < 1347395623 617868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh how does one get vim to ignore special characters in the substitution _string_? < 1347395637 68436 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, the c interpreter had problems with deblocking empty blocks, but that's fixed < 1347395673 322730 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't you have something to escape problematic characters? < 1347395690 272656 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1347395692 15114 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-78-227.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1347395693 39527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know _which_ characters are the problematic ones :( < 1347395715 910137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[)[~~~~()+1])])][[)[~H~+32])])][)~[0]])$ < 1347395718 467056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1347395733 744784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot cut and paste from the : line :( < 1347395853 510480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think it's the ~ < 1347395907 209262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew :sno fixed it < 1347396030 234757 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347396200 378276 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it still writes P for 0) < 1347396214 341683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as intended < 1347396474 386223 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b7be8.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: hagb4rd < 1347396587 203492 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: could you replace fueue.c with http://sprunge.us/EIBh please? modifications include fixing a memory leak, using union types, and fixing an issue with empty blocks < 1347396649 373733 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: Done. < 1347396669 105722 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe I should find a way to upload files myself I feel bad depending on you like that - is zzo38computer.cjb.net really your physical computer? < 1347396672 205282 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1347397060 569049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is my physical computer. < 1347397081 834569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works! [[)[~~~~()+1])])][[)$-----~1-[~:)~)[)[~:)~)]~:]:]~[~[$~H~~%~+])~48-):])~)~:])][)~[0]])$ < 1347397084 289978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually it is a router, but ports 70, 80, 194, and some others are connected to my computer.) < 1347397296 296270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1347397306 296381 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-137-36.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1347397321 983635 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me guess, 70 is gopher? < 1347397436 889427 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :niiiiice < 1347397580 759915 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Yes < 1347397833 455963 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1347397861 272238 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1347398203 936157 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is someone familiar with MarioLANG? I think http://esolangs.org/wiki/Truth-machine#MarioLANG is missing ===== < 1347398237 713669 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :without it I guess when input is '1' Mario would just die without outputting anything < 1347399494 958646 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347400287 667813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: would seem so... < 1347400572 920166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my sleuth skills tell me it was made by atriq http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Truth-machine&diff=30464&oldid=30434 < 1347400652 534903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something i'm also wondering is if you can take an elevator the other way after using it; that would also mess up things. < 1347400800 729273 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1347400922 54596 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1347401096 409352 :augur!~augur@206.196.184.41 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347401504 899612 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1347401562 345596 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1347401645 20867 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1347401777 976423 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1347401948 856433 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1347402783 848457 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I did not really understand how elevators worked exactly < 1347402784 26235 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1347402842 210541 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess the reason there are different symbols for the start and end of an elevator is that it only works one way < 1347402890 34411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1347402952 128692 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, I'm guessing items are one-use only < 1347403018 40910 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my confusion about elevators come from the first example: http://esolangs.org/wiki/MarioLANG#Commands_Explained < 1347403051 138931 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did he need a ! (stop walking) and why are there three # and three " < 1347403064 821488 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooh < 1347403069 339392 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I get it < 1347403075 375618 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an elevator as in the game < 1347403084 116895 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when Mario steps on it it actually moves < 1347403095 432975 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it stop moving when it meets the " < 1347403111 528850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*crunch* < 1347403139 718358 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's like ground, except it can move once - but it's like ground, not like an object < 1347403155 215640 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in atriq's program it would probably work like a wall < 1347403272 480348 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the talk page is all about the elevator < 1347403544 249651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not about the same question though < 1347403597 139889 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1347403603 426744 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's about "your description of the elevator is incomplete and ambiguous" < 1347403785 812607 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1347403805 341302 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347403812 27013 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347403818 154024 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347404040 293051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lack of an implementation doesn't help. < 1347404287 412378 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd make one if it were less ambiguous < 1347404336 529483 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"move one space. take item. look what's under your feet. fall. move one space again" < 1347404414 322504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however the truth machine _does_ seem to be in conflict with what's already written, not ambiguous. < 1347404437 610979 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup the truth machine is completely wrong < 1347404457 109700 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if items are one use only then I guess loops are not really possible < 1347404479 705947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they can be, with the language being claimed TC < 1347404483 89104 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki page says it's turing complete but there is nothing that looks like a proof < 1347404525 897325 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I'll guess I'll make a truth-machine with a comment about items < 1347404526 980980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it seems to have most of brainfuck + a flexible means of flow control, so it should be. < 1347404575 936157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but indeed those are items, so cannot be one use only < 1347404606 815549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is simply no unbounded storage without unlimited items < 1347404753 823698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm and the examples on the page itself do seem to imply you need to stop walking to safely use an elevator... < 1347404812 20022 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1347404831 727449 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347404838 141711 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in super mario - if you keep walking you'll fall off while the elevator is moving < 1347404909 328120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wondering about the exact meaning of [ if you pass over an elevator... < 1347404941 521936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll make a truth machine with less assumptions < 1347405035 783041 :itidus20!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1347405057 924779 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: [ skips commands < 1347405063 706789 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elevators are parts, not commands < 1347405071 411895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep thought so < 1347405095 588362 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be like "if [condition], skip the wall" "will do" "BAM" < 1347405190 294357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except parts _are_ also listed under commands. < 1347405230 762447 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1347405233 880127 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I confused commands for instructions < 1347405241 292818 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1347405271 348433 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm assuming if you make an elevator get down through a ground, mario will not phase through < 1347405283 639692 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I wonder if mario dies if the elevator goes up through the ceiling < 1347405421 753768 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b7be8.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347405454 110080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i edited it, is this one better? < 1347405550 137352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it assumes the elevator doesn't go faster than Mario is walking, otherwise it needs to be taller < 1347405960 401446 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup that sounds good < 1347406066 12723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines Arc_Koen listening to MarioLANG code through a screen reader < 1347406466 319694 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b7be8.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow! this language is fun < 1347406620 267596 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about an object-oriented language based on mario kart < 1347406637 548548 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 8 participants in a 128 meters long race < 1347406648 237686 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every kart has an acceleration, speed, and position < 1347406675 164741 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can do things at times specified by the program < 1347406684 99938 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like using objects against other participants) < 1347406736 992271 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course everybody wants to win so karts cannot decelerate willingly (but can be slow down or stopped by objects used by other karts) < 1347406939 802012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1347407043 707166 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, my mistake, these are DVD-9's < 1347407047 970744 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's like 180 GB < 1347407097 224007 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway have a good night < 1347407108 178081 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Are you telling me you can build a time machine but you can't cook a cheese soufflé? You've got your priorities all wrong! < 1347407743 155664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1347407759 704323 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1347407888 155182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric