< 1346976925 78782 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1346978525 138638 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1346979031 511155 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net NICK :pikhq < 1346979313 188575 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1346980075 164067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (sin . cos .) < 1346980076 169290 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : The operator `.' [infixr 9] of a section < 1346980076 341130 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : must have lower precedence than that of the operand, < 1346980076 368482 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : namely `.' [infixr 9] < 1346980897 174553 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1346981604 268887 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1346981733 858697 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1346982603 484322 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1346982858 764968 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1346982935 878653 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1346983322 559018 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1346983474 993110 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1346983658 721259 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1346986406 230417 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1346987624 34222 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1346988238 885839 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1346988979 97796 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1346989146 288585 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1346991841 961369 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1346991907 59572 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://chainsawsuit.com/2012/09/06/new-pizza-hut-fraczas/ < 1346992695 285044 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1346993037 553032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1346994458 318331 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1346994552 541892 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172191.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Connection reset by PO < 1346995528 206079 :centrinia!~exc@adsl-184-36-86-237.asm.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1346996793 255430 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1346997247 294335 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1346998101 999483 :centrinia!~exc@adsl-184-36-86-237.asm.bellsouth.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1346998582 980042 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-65-102.singnet.com.sg JOIN :#esoteric < 1347000310 654131 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-65-102.singnet.com.sg QUIT :Quit: mig22 < 1347000839 267543 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347001566 250507 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1347001763 668968 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1347003177 76787 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PART :#esoteric < 1347004145 785257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Yay, you deal with the mmap thing this time. < 1347004416 725436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Is it just me or do I hate #haskell? < 1347004476 87907 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It’s not you, it’s Hitler. < 1347005898 994558 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347008066 872271 :ineiros!~itniemin@li271-145.members.linode.com QUIT :Quit: x < 1347008093 853764 :ineiros!~itniemin@li271-145.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1347016252 701831 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-146-24.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347019471 894127 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1347019811 5738 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1347019994 281328 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347020108 465651 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1347020250 626682 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jello. < 1347020284 820164 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cello < 1347020316 476858 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347020345 270180 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yello(w). < 1347020403 195092 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bordello < 1347020408 605582 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :othello < 1347020483 203420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morello. < 1347020487 501389 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :'ello < 1347020492 639698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bargello. < 1347020512 641383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I hadn't even heard of these 'ellos before.) < 1347020514 382077 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn morello < 1347020514 934022 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "morello" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1347020515 106374 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :morello < 1347020515 125118 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: any of several cultivated sour cherry trees bearing fruit < 1347020515 125301 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : with dark skin and juice [syn: {morello}, {Prunus cerasus < 1347020515 125404 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : austera}] < 1347020516 983386 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: cultivated sour cherry with dark-colored skin and juice < 1347020518 687273 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn bargello < 1347020519 30032 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "bargello" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1347020521 153894 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bargello < 1347020523 28536 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: needlepoint embroidery stitch that produces zigzag lines < 1347020524 953911 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [syn: {bargello}, {flame stitch}] < 1347020554 653332 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, one of bargello’s synonyms is bargello? < 1347020585 278590 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> compare "bargello" "bargello" -- copypaste check < 1347020586 337108 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : EQ < 1347020653 448723 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just the whole set. < 1347020660 975343 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that one of morello's synonyms is morello. < 1347020693 211448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The command-line tool outputs "1. bargello, flame stitch -- (needlepoint embroidery stitch that produces zigzag lines)" which makes a bit more sense. < 1347022169 838984 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, greek is apparently very remotely related to any other living languages < 1347022190 85402 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that's the reason I had no idea until now which languages it was related to < 1347023420 657293 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347025859 348285 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.99.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347026023 360182 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.99.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if anyone is going to Spectrum 30 tomorrow? http://www.spectrum30.org.uk
< 1347026085 583005 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a has-a-Speccy-past friend, but I doubt he's going to UK just for that. < 1347026314 630314 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this the official channel of PEZ? < 1347026395 349985 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.99.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION had to google PEZ.
< 1347026447 410306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought PEZ was one of those universal kind of things. < 1347026542 485934 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it just hasn't reached hexham yet < 1347026596 968667 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or wherever impomatic is) < 1347026627 798480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Hexham. Not absolutely everything is Hexham (yet). < 1347026641 373610 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-65-102.singnet.com.sg JOIN :#esoteric < 1347026644 307658 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not everything, you say? weird. < 1347026758 475679 :chickenzilla!~chicken@88-190-32-81.rev.dedibox.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1347026794 637261 :chickenzilla!~chicken@88-190-32-81.rev.dedibox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1347026972 144149 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Labour MPs accused the Tories of trying to "gerrymander" the system and claimed the changes will produce major anomalies as seats are carved up to reduce the overall number.[...]The new Hexham seat for example would take in part of Gateshead, which currently forms a section of the Blaydon constituency that would completely disappear under the shake-up < 1347027128 501987 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you move Hexham to Gateshead, what happens to whatever was previously at Gateshead? < 1347027564 725322 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :this http://sacvs.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/watkins_punishment_600_410.jpg < 1347027719 623196 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.99.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boston, not Hexham. < 1347028193 121737 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lt < 1347028196 961952 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gt < 1347028197 649230 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eq < 1347028289 568291 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Boston, north Hexham" < 1347028426 288153 :augur!~augur@129-2-182-167.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1347028654 715171 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so there's a 105 SEK pocket edition that I can buy, and also a 69 SEK pocket that "hasn't been published yet" < 1347028724 658690 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that means the available one is the "pocket for nearsighted people with very large pockets" edition < 1347029023 312813 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theworldbyroad.com/expedition/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/shower-2.jpg < 1347029107 944323 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, if the water gets electrified, will that really affect you? I suspect the pipe will be a better grounding than either of you or the water anyway < 1347029345 775277 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it’s completely safe, nothing whatsoever to worry about. < 1347029613 269163 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically it's an electric shower head? < 1347029665 222632 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1347029914 83345 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1347030219 968907 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-23-251.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1347030225 43072 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-23-251.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1347030265 329105 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have experienced some difficulty to get the Star Trek Google Doodle to work in Internet Explorer and in Firefox. To experience the Google doodle as it were intended we recommend that you use Google Chrome for it to work 100% < 1347030347 352899 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Upgrade to Google Doodle Premium now for only 1 soul? < 1347030385 201369 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :The FTC settlement included a disclosure provision where Intel must: "...publish clearly that its compiler discriminates against non-Intel processors (such as AMD's designs), not fully utilizing their features and producing inferior code." < 1347030410 755854 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347030435 925344 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i wouldn't call it opportunism < 1347030448 115637 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1347030448 286508 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1347030483 36331 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2+2 < 1347030484 227627 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1347030487 960871 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1347030491 302543 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2+2 < 1347030492 348489 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1347030510 954633 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: it should be 5 < 1347030592 981874 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 2+2=5 in 2+2 < 1347030594 10602 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1347030606 177513 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (+) = 5 in 2+2 < 1347030607 411955 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1347030613 498192 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1347030620 94349 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot has some crazy instances < 1347030662 653819 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2+2 < 1347030663 677545 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1347030714 537860 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1347030734 856249 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5-2 < 1347030735 927397 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 < 1347030756 262551 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 2+3 = 5 in 2+2 < 1347030757 288483 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: :3:4-10: Non-exhaustive patterns in function + < 1347030762 606620 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1347030786 453652 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 2+2 = 5 in 1+2+2 < 1347030787 728811 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: :3:4-10: Non-exhaustive patterns in function + < 1347030807 340641 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 2+2 = 5 in 1+(2+2) < 1347030808 706052 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: :3:4-10: Non-exhaustive patterns in function + < 1347030825 88777 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh I see < 1347030826 925808 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 2+2 = 5; 1+5 = 8 in 1+(2+2) < 1347030827 783958 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8 < 1347030831 873186 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 5-2=2 in 5-2 < 1347030832 726993 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1347030876 11089 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x+y = y in 2+2 < 1347030877 316439 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1347030880 419408 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeay < 1347031204 717070 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is a fun language < 1347031240 3077 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let id 0 = 0; id n = (n * 2) in map id [1..10] < 1347031240 899196 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20] < 1347031754 206650 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> runKleisli (Kleisli return >>> Kleisli (\x -> [1,2,3,x])) 1 < 1347031755 231496 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,1] < 1347032396 717529 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1347033695 550694 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1347034285 24913 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-65-102.singnet.com.sg QUIT :Quit: mig22 < 1347034384 302719 :augur!~augur@129-2-182-167.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347034480 895814 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1347035031 494860 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347036733 635140 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: why would you need to specify id 0 = 0? < 1347036744 841374 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Becuase it completely shadows id < 1347036746 903937 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a new id < 1347036753 205482 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1347036760 998042 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I changed my mind half way through writing it < 1347036765 651359 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1347036906 748887 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1347036981 864128 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1347036991 759397 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.99.87 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1347037117 785784 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.131 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347037606 270206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347038837 908791 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347039502 996643 :danko!~danko@2.177.158.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347039728 985351 :danko!~danko@2.177.158.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1347039757 459721 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey < 1347040065 110351 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1347040128 810881 :danko!~danko@2.177.158.23 PART :#esoteric < 1347040487 248628 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty cool guy, that danko < 1347041025 135508 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1347041148 623475 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1347041204 352508 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347042324 78628 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what happens when.. gorillas are given access to search engines < 1347042341 296965 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cameras to make pics available as search results < 1347042364 779153 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much nothing < 1347042373 951304 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they get suicidal < 1347042443 265291 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, what happens when we let animals have their own internets < 1347042517 375292 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, pretty much nothing < 1347042523 345072 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :first we make them dependant on the internet < 1347042541 441680 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :by making them abandon their old ways of doing things, and their old traditions < 1347042612 62968 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... yeah... i dont think im thinking clearly < 1347042975 538694 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1347043153 989938 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.99.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347043550 968502 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347043556 717098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1347043558 705870 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1347043680 195993 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-23-251.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1347043697 788412 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347044527 138719 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1347045042 822366 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1347045062 141976 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might accidentally qualify for a math minor. < 1347045206 593161 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How so? < 1347045421 951694 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1347045465 420037 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4195c.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347045725 298019 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4195c.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Leibniz_Monadology_2.jpg < 1347045747 332237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1347045756 267836 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4195c.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he finally got it right < 1347045764 214196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did? yay! < 1347045793 871834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only took me 14 years < 1347045844 660636 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4195c.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :axl rose too < 1347045955 178065 :Slereah_!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-193-122.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1347045975 389554 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happened to take so many math classes that, without deliberately seeking to, I might qualify < 1347045983 840827 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not have minoring in math as a goal < 1347045986 926728 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well done? < 1347046026 489745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW IF HIS SCHOOL ONLY HAD REAL MATH < 1347046041 281298 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me < 1347046044 502273 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I start Groups soon < 1347046050 799574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is filling in for the other cynics today
< 1347046080 569435 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing other stuff too < 1347046081 464671 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1347046092 911614 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Algebra type stuff < 1347046106 16048 :Slereah!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-207-250.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1347046358 257512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subdirectly_irreducible_algebra < 1347046414 174510 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only up to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_fraction < 1347046415 135031 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1347046453 826992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ok, you'll get to the S'es soon enough < 1347047011 451096 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.99.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think of the Google Nexus 7? I might buy one tomorrow... < 1347047216 101235 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347047346 371920 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :java.awt.Robot looks like it could be fun < 1347047350 815792 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ducks
< 1347047417 727722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh, greek is apparently very remotely related to any other living languages <-- what crackpot got _you_ today? < 1347047436 901067 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He may be thinking of Basque < 1347047448 112855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...doesn't precisely help. < 1347047521 871977 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1347047525 179237 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there's like one other living language in the whole hellenic language group, but it's dying < 1347047542 492614 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greek had a lot of influence on Latin < 1347047555 289016 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hence the romantic languages and English < 1347047573 50615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: um greek is indoeuropean. that means it's rather closer related to say english and swedish than to any language which isn't < 1347047577 891810 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the closest relation to other languages seems to be that it's indo-european, but "almost everything" is < 1347047603 887977 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tree model is a poor approximation at best < 1347047688 314084 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was typed in using a Clojure REPL that has access to awtbot < 1347047693 923188 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although I press Enter myself) < 1347047714 203423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually recall a theory that implies that languages are _not_ all related - namely that in some places with very friendly climate new language families may be created by children getting lost before learning to speak. it supposedly might explain why new guinea as such an enormous amount of language families (iirc the theory also said there was a part of california that used to be like this) < 1347047731 466925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*has such an < 1347047737 13852 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was slow < 1347047793 305225 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah yeah, but learn a germanic language and a romance language and you have a head start on a large proportion of european languages, but knowing any or all of those seems to help very poorly when it comes to understanding greek < 1347047806 434837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hey just because indo-european is the largest language family doesn't mean there are no others. < 1347047839 120595 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, you're just picking on the wrong ends of everything I've said :) < 1347047871 260403 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a test, this is only a test. < 1347047872 660175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: that's because they all share a lot of latin loanwords, but there are greek ones too. < 1347047906 22794 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347047929 704439 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1347047951 313205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't bet on it helping with russian or hungarian either :) < 1347047972 554173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than greek, that is < 1347047996 660297 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the greek loan words seem to be either less popular or a lot less useful, or just not in the relevant parts of the language < 1347047996 679649 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Basque or Finnish < 1347048118 197675 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I'm referring to is things like using knowledge in {spanish,french,italian,latin} to decipher text in any of the other languages, which seems to usually work fairly well < 1347048137 564185 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and that the set of non-greek languages useful for doing the same in greek seems to be empty < 1347048346 392192 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1347048365 8816 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: wat! < 1347048370 921425 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1347048384 858491 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an awful lot of hi < 1347048389 265357 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why dont you learn armenian? < 1347048398 771093 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should try to have some fun with the Robot]
< 1347048403 515718 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would I want to do that!? < 1347048424 191606 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why dont you learn russian? < 1347048561 261756 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, that was me reflecting on going to greece and my vaguely existing skills in other european languages being useless for understanding greek < 1347048819 777322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall once reading armenian is closest to greek, although it may not have been very firm < 1347048874 162909 :atriq!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-96.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1347048878 633546 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-161-245.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347049013 720472 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_language implies they're usually considered separate branches of indo-european, but that other groupings have been proposed < 1347049091 339565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes, closest branch. < 1347049161 286022 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1347049202 563303 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: does norway have cabbage pudding? < 1347049274 167175 :lexande_!arapp@minthe.ugcs.caltech.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1347049306 710978 :lexande_!arapp@minthe.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :today i went to a talk where the speaker kept prefacing his theorems with "If ZFC is consistent, then" < 1347049316 1341 :lexande_!arapp@minthe.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :people made fun of him for this a bit < 1347049400 534381 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hey guys, I've got a proof that ZFC is consistent!" < 1347049404 849964 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fuck you." < 1347049448 798352 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? Would some theorems fail if ZFC is inconsistent? If ZFC is inconsistent wouldn't everything be a theorem? < 1347049473 755090 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-145-146.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: If you prove ZFC consistent using ZFC, it is not consistent. < 1347049511 714949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: not exactly i think < 1347049513 600304 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes I know that too; I was refering to lexande_'s message about the speaker who kept prefacing his theorems with "If ZFC is consistent, then" < 1347049552 30004 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi zzo38 < 1347049556 330928 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-161-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is ZFC the one that's equivalent to Axiom of Choice? < 1347049560 522197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nrk.no/mat/1.6150114 has a recipe in norwegian - by tina nordström :) < 1347049591 141717 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it contains the AoC as an axiom < 1347049596 288180 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-161-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1347049605 588196 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zorns lemma is equivalent to the aoc < 1347049609 660731 :lexande_!arapp@minthe.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, the theorems were like, if ZFC is consistent then there is a model of a multiverse of forcing with these properties < 1347049630 441767 :lexande_!arapp@minthe.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, ZFC is just the usual axioms of set theory/maths, including Choice < 1347049632 914889 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande_: O, OK. So that's why he did that. < 1347049637 906216 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-161-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of Zorn's lemma < 1347049657 426679 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-161-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly the Well Ordering Principle < 1347049672 558749 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-161-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is like yesterday when I got 5th Cell and Level 5 mixed up < 1347049674 518247 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and here's one in english: http://swedecheese.blogspot.se/2008/05/food-journal-number-39-klpudding.html < 1347049689 481356 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's simpler too) < 1347049784 385511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i think no:kålruletter (rather old-fashioned) is about the same as sv:kåldolmar, however < 1347049806 232978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realized what I forgot in RogueVM which is banks of the screen grid (like screen pages on PC) < 1347049857 977963 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect two pages is sufficient, but if you don't agree, please notify me. < 1347049901 286780 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think that's essentially the same as cabbage pudding but in a different format < 1347049918 172345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Axiom of Choice is obviously true, the well-ordering principle obviously false, and who can tell about Zorn's lemma?" < 1347049938 693589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well yes it was mentioned in a pudding page < 1347049954 175070 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems a lot trickier to make too < 1347049989 605503 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-161-245.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1347050129 893100 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do I keep thinking that lifeboats are small things that hold maybe 4 people? < 1347050149 120039 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :because in some cases they are? < 1347050356 22995 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347050462 533367 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know a XML reading library in C? < 1347050556 490182 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once did < 1347050630 126651 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/Mev10.jpg < 1347050653 121867 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1347050815 747721 :Dude!44a2efc7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.162.239.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347050818 957880 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@188.134.41.211 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1347050840 9195 :Dude!44a2efc7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.162.239.199 NICK :Guest49957 < 1347050843 19144 :Guest49957!44a2efc7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.162.239.199 QUIT :Client Quit < 1347051024 714635 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347051035 539334 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:27:24: I start Groups soon < 1347051035 558101 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1347051040 95992 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you at sch--- wait it's september < 1347051305 298904 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1347051344 31104 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1347051579 26244 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347051669 683911 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. A HUSH FALLS OVER THE AREN. .HE FIG.TERS APPROACH THE RING < 1347051834 380520 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347051847 140270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :Guest96629 < 1347051859 164096 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1347051889 944114 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1347051954 670808 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION picks up the Hush and puts it back on its perch.
< 1347051985 558459 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Typically a crystal ball is connected to the chip at OSC1 and OSC2 pins." < 1347052003 941313 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it an oracle chip? < 1347052036 894697 :Guest96629!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1347052116 19015 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing OSC stands for oracular sensor chip (circuit?) or somesuch < 1347052172 233955 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oracular Scintillator? < 1347052238 193684 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously, the word "ball" was not originally there) < 1347053224 10643 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347053336 870892 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1347053474 14583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t foldr (>>=) return < 1347053475 46951 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: b = a -> b < 1347053475 217562 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Probable cause: `>>=' is applied to too many arguments < 1347053475 256243 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of `foldr', namely `(>>=)' < 1347053490 909067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t foldr (>>=) (return ()) < 1347053491 939409 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: b = a -> b < 1347053492 112001 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Probable cause: `>>=' is applied to too many arguments < 1347053492 130642 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of `foldr', namely `(>>=)' < 1347053535 474294 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, someone was trying to build a botloop in #clojure < 1347053581 375055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realized he wanted sequence_ instead
< 1347054409 964561 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1347054616 813635 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-146-24.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1347054684 327172 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1347054847 320242 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1347054868 358265 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347055207 429120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pred '0' < 1347055209 46388 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : '/' < 1347055381 775941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pred '/' < 1347055383 141377 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : '.' < 1347055493 178316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1347055630 450289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: doesn't your brainfunct truth-machine have an off-by-one error? i.e. loops on '0' rather than '1' < 1347055768 969373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Arc_Koen doesn't your brainfunct truth-machine have an off-by-one error? i.e. loops on '0' rather than '1' < 1347055769 102295 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1347055839 350975 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.131 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347055845 516043 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4195c.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1347055866 140097 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.131 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347055887 83975 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.131 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1347055893 893844 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.131 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347056350 127096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like these ideas for scenarios of the Dungeons&Dragons game? * The sun rises in the wrong place. * Suddenly the money changes into different money. * The phase of the moon is now different shapes other than round, such as square and hexagon and so on. * A dwarf walks in to a bar (ouch). Heal him, please. * Help a beholder find his lost monocle/glasses. < 1347056466 183562 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :* A war occurs over unclaimed land. * Some people assign the party to a completely impossible task (not because it is too difficult, but because of references to things that do not exist, or illogical things, etc). * Kjugobe and other illithids pursued by illithid slayers and evil druids. The illithid slayers and evil druid should probably be defeated. * The king is allergic to magic and wishes all spellcasters (arcane, divine, and psionic) d < 1347056484 368702 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :* You find a map, but it is all wrong. < 1347057630 554034 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them < 1347057703 618683 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :where some means none <= some <= all < 1347057716 807244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK yes that is what I thought you meant. < 1347057721 528100 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1347057742 306232 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However that is not specific as to what? < 1347057750 505482 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1347057830 57479 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :scenarios are quite strange < 1347057835 187226 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.131 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1347057908 756954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :* The king of another city is attacking gibbering mouthers as well as anyone who enters his city. Hold the second one as you hold a pencil, in order to save the gibbering mouthers from the king's army. Bonus points if you give Potion of Confusing to gibbering mouthers who like that. * Someone wants to charge minstrels everywhere royalties. Stop their evil scheme. * A few magical items are found; you must not only figure out exactly what they do < 1347057913 969096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope this message is not too long. < 1347058029 533592 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :my useless contribution doubled it's size. < 1347058067 850096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it exactly double? < 1347058090 501323 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1347058116 6955 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i think you could afford to make it 50 lines long... < 1347058138 760246 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :excluding my part of it < 1347058186 129938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ... exactly what they do < 1347058211 502250 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the last word you have received in the long message? < 1347058228 32277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just told you. < 1347058295 592388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and the previous one stopped at (arcane, divine, and psionic) d < 1347058307 303959 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :* A few magical items are found; you must not only figure out exactly what they do (identification magic cannot be used), but also how to effectively use them for escape. < 1347058313 736649 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :* The king is allergic to magic and wishes all spellcasters (arcane, divine, and psionic) destroyed (including the royal spellcasters). < 1347058317 261673 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it OK now? < 1347058322 98068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks so < 1347058359 187413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Shun magic, and shun the appearance of magic! Shun everything, and then shun shunning!" < 1347058392 978198 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what people who think that Rails is too "magic" think of Clojure stuff, considering the usage of macros < 1347058404 893341 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do macros tend to feel less magic than run-time metaprogramming? < 1347058418 41370 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so yes < 1347058428 982433 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can ask for the macro expansion < 1347058443 764541 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know Clojure but I think in general, both macros and run-time can be useful. < 1347058462 916664 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're sort of visual analogies < 1347058475 507840 :kmc!~keegan@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in simple cases and with tasteful use of quasiquoting < 1347058616 721209 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is suddenly sad that Tcl doesn't have quasiquoting
< 1347058621 771567 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so it worked out at about 23 lines. < 1347058755 298709 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you like this game? < 1347058766 451330 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Some people assign the party to a completely impossible task (not because it is too difficult, but because of references to things that do not exist, or illogical things, etc). <-- this is a fairly good explanation of koans :D < 1347058781 443853 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does quasiquoting work? < 1347058793 650704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In those programming language? < 1347058805 433065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: OK. < 1347058854 275512 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg. The king assigned his best knight to find a man who could demonstrate the sound of one hand clapping. < 1347058882 154404 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :^well a man or woman < 1347058901 217880 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :^anyone or anything who could < 1347059033 744495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i'm not particularly interested < 1347059092 33184 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OK. < 1347059288 46710 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1347059324 706841 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all this talk of scenarios reminds me of an interview with a final fantasy scenario writer where he explained that if scenario writing was automated he would be out of a job < 1347059382 691250 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so on the subject of humans jobs being automated by machines, the machines don't really make mistakes. and when they do they follow fairly pre-defined routines to deal with them < 1347059406 137493 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if in practice they need help when they fail, then they are not infact entirely automated < 1347059432 919269 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also, when humans do a job they always consider ways it can be done better or differently < 1347059449 814659 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when they make mistakes it can inspire breakthrouhgs < 1347059480 730229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote them by hand. Some are based on ones from other sources, some are based on a computer game I have written, and some I just wrote my own. Automated programs can sometimes help a little bit but you still have to program it and modify its program to make a new one, and then if you don't like the result, modify it. < 1347059483 354282 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so machines are learning to react to feedback < 1347059496 879058 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :however < 1347059510 322899 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect that its just not the same < 1347059991 695061 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :once a machine spends all it's time experimenting on work, it's no longer doing work < 1347059994 31287 :lexande_!arapp@minthe.ugcs.caltech.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1347060035 278838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1347060038 250676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: https://github.com/albertz/playground/blob/master/test_importearlyexit.py < 1347060221 794021 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: Now, how do you fully automate them if humans make mistakes < 1347060328 84082 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that nothing truely gets perfected < 1347060376 557872 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :because... i could barely parse that sentence.. thats my excuse < 1347060381 333614 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :for being wrong < 1347060420 598361 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it really that wrong to want to use java.awRobot as a fun toy? < 1347060432 577166 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, java.awt.Robot < 1347060482 365957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :urd < 1347060483 246578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yes < 1347060486 225132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're morally culpable < 1347060580 296422 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :##java didn't like my implication that my reason for wanting to use java.awt.Robot was becuase it seemed fun < 1347060590 94105 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i want to make a robot in 2d using textured vector graphics which can position it's legs using inverse kinematics < 1347060619 206826 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then again im not sure that i do < 1347060673 285551 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1347060723 714000 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :its one of many things < 1347060726 926753 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awtbot is a nice Clojure library for using it, but it has an idiotic with-robot macro. Maybe it was written before doto worked with all forms? < 1347060957 313827 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, < 1347060958 253487 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, < 1347060958 973427 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, < 1347060962 45453 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, < 1347060962 215856 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, < 1347060977 122817 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1347061040 401490 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and here i was thinking it might relate to robotics :P < 1347061046 404493 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just looked up what its for < 1347061093 763204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hi < 1347061132 424931 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like it could be useful for writing aimbots in video games < 1347061808 197181 :itidus21!~itidus21@CPE-120-148-51-163.gdfw1.vic.bigpond.net.au PART #esoteric :"/leave #esoteric /leave #esoteric [...]" < 1347062128 547002 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric