00:01:25 probably Vorpal disables ctcp for "security reasons" 00:01:28 * oerjan is too tired to be fun 00:01:36 how's your sleep 00:02:02 elliott___, I don't think so 00:02:03 i slept long today, after not getting much for 2-3 days 00:02:21 it's about time for lunch >:P 00:02:27 elliott___, I did get CTCP spammed at some point though and just put an ignore on all CTCPs that weren't CTCP ACTION 00:02:51 * elliott___ spam 00:02:51 * elliott___ spam 00:02:52 * elliott___ spam 00:02:52 * elliott___ spam 00:02:52 * elliott___ spam 00:02:52 * elliott___ spam 00:02:54 * elliott___ spam 00:02:56 * elliott___ spam 00:02:58 * elliott___ spam 00:03:00 * elliott___ spam 00:03:02 * elliott___ spam 00:03:04 * elliott___ spam 00:03:06 * elliott___ spam 00:03:08 * elliott___ spam 00:03:10 * elliott___ spam 00:03:12 * elliott___ spam 00:03:14 * elliott___ spam 00:03:14 I see 00:03:17 hi copumpkin 00:03:19 he is _really_ bored, isn't he 00:03:28 * elliott___ spriggan arcane marksman 00:05:46 elliott___, isn't that a monster from Skyrim? Spriggan I mean 00:05:55 btw did you get around to playing Bastion yet? 00:06:22 Vorpal: spriggans are from faery law, so quite possibly 00:06:31 spriggan arcane marksman (SpAM) is a possible character combination in crawl 00:06:31 ah 00:06:32 and no 00:06:36 *lore 00:06:36 not law 00:06:57 elliott___, you beat me to it, I was going to make a joke about that being a rather uncommon law 00:09:54 copumpkin: has anything interesting happened in haskell recently 00:10:03 I haven't really been following 00:10:07 there's the whole class-prelude debacle 00:10:12 classy 00:12:16 yes it is quite surreal when the head of one of the largest haskell projects decides to make a passive-aggressive blog post in response to reddit criticism 00:12:36 lol what 00:12:45 the yesod folks sure do have a weird track record of communication... not that /r/haskell is the most reasoned place either 00:12:51 Vorpal: http://www.yesodweb.com/blog/2012/07/announcing-baseless-assertion 00:14:08 elliott___, That is on the borderline on not being passive 00:14:24 elliott___: well lambda-case was added, but of course you know that so i assume you don't think that's interesting 00:14:49 oerjan: i think the added syntax is ugly 00:14:55 (and the if | which i tried to comment about but which is still sitting at 0) 00:15:13 frankly I would have preferred for monadic case to be added 00:15:15 so you could do 00:15:17 case <- ask of ... 00:15:18 for lambda-case 00:15:28 (did anyone propose that in a venue that the simons read?) 00:15:31 at least it works, i think if | breaks intuition horribly when nested 00:15:35 (i mean, monadic case obviously, but as an alternative) 00:15:49 elliott___: yes, but that means you cannot use it for continuation passing style 00:15:54 that's what i'd do if i was on the committee at least 00:15:56 oerjan: why not 00:15:59 foo >>= case <- ask of 00:16:01 ... 00:16:06 it is just like "case of" 00:16:07 but generalised 00:16:11 (remember ask is typeclassed to work with functions) 00:16:14 :t ask 00:16:15 forall (m :: * -> *) r. (MonadReader r m) => m r 00:16:19 no, i mean continuation passing when you want it _non-monadic_ 00:16:19 :t ask :: r -> r 00:16:20 forall r. r -> r 00:16:25 I guess <- id works too 00:16:27 oerjan: you don't understand. 00:16:30 oerjan: the monad is the _function_ monad. 00:16:40 huh? 00:16:41 (case <- ask of Nothing -> 123; Just _ -> 456) :: Maybe () -> Integer 00:16:53 case <- m of y === do { tmp <- m; case tmp of y } 00:17:00 now imagine the latter is in the function monad. 00:17:24 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 00:17:36 :t do { x <- ask; case ask of Nothing -> 123; Just _ -> 456 } 00:17:37 No instance for (MonadReader r Maybe) 00:17:37 arising from a use of `ask' at :1:20-22 00:17:37 Possible fix: add an instance declaration for (MonadReader r Maybe) 00:17:39 gah 00:17:42 :t do { x <- ask; case x of Nothing -> 123; Just _ -> 456 } 00:17:44 forall (m :: * -> *) b t. (MonadReader (Maybe t) m, Num (m b)) => m b 00:17:52 erm 00:17:57 oerjan: sorry, it would be 00:18:02 case <- ask of Nothing -> return 1234; Just _ -> 456 00:18:13 *return 00:18:17 :t do { x <- ask; case x of Nothing -> return 1234; Just _ -> return 456 } 00:18:19 forall (m :: * -> *) b t. (MonadReader (Maybe t) m, Num b) => m b 00:18:19 elliott___: oh. well i guess that works. 00:18:25 :t do { x <- ask; case x of Nothing -> return 1234; Just _ -> return 456 } :: Maybe () -> Integer 00:18:26 Maybe () -> Integer 00:18:34 so case <- ask of Nothing -> return 1234; Just _ -> return 456 } 00:18:38 *{ Nothing 00:18:49 I bet copumpkin likes my solution!!!!!!!! 00:19:09 elliott___: but now what if you want to do continuation passing style _in_ a monad? 00:19:13 always 00:19:27 oerjan: you just put return $ after every -> and it translates perfectly. 00:19:32 oerjan: in fact that is exactly an fmap 00:19:39 so if we had fancy fmap syntax, then it could be extended too. 00:20:00 say (case <$> ask of Nothing -> 1234; Just _ -> return 456) 00:20:27 -!- Frooxius|TabletP has joined. 00:20:36 elliott___, That is on the borderline on not being passive 00:20:42 looks like snoyman decided to write a blog post complaining about the haskell community 00:20:44 Vorpal: well i think some people missed that it was directed to them first time around. 00:20:46 i have one of those but i didn't post it ;P 00:21:01 kmc: in this case snoyman is in the wrong really 00:21:02 elliott___, wow... 00:21:07 kmc: did you see classy-prelude 00:21:23 it is like the kind of thing i would expect someone five chapters into lyah to come up with 00:22:14 -!- nortti_ has quit (Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )). 00:22:36 maybe not five 00:22:41 kmc: when are typeclasses introduced in lyah 00:22:45 maybe i should ... check it out myself 00:22:53 -!- edwardk has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 00:23:04 elliott___, what is lyah? 00:23:13 learn you a hgrueghegjorejgforiefjerg 00:23:16 *ham 00:23:18 *hexham 00:23:26 riiight? 00:23:29 *hastur 00:23:31 *haskel 00:23:35 ah 00:23:38 *pascal 00:23:39 *java 00:23:45 *esme 00:23:50 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa 00:24:05 *nonsense query lists 00:24:09 learn you a hlaghulagahalguhgaglhghughl 00:24:09 fuck i forgot nsqx's other languages 00:24:13 i fucking miss nsqx 00:24:25 maybe i should make him a sysop 00:25:28 oerjan: do you miss nsqx 00:25:40 -!- zzo38 has joined. 00:25:53 00:25:58 ! 00:26:15 who is zzo38 00:26:16 am i zzo38 00:26:26 I did not write my D&D character backstory yet so I will do that and ask the other player to write backstory for her character too. 00:26:37 elliott___: oh 00:26:38 elliott___: I don't think so. 00:26:42 elliott___: you under score 00:26:57 coppro: hi 00:26:59 zzo38 is here to teach you not to miss nsqx. 00:27:22 zzo38 is the second-best member of the channel 00:27:29 only nsqx surpasses him imo 00:27:41 OKAY 00:28:54 coppro: hi 00:31:12 -!- elliott___ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:31:37 -!- elliott___ has joined. 00:31:39 neat, X crashed 00:33:53 oerjan: the language list is unalphabetised 00:34:19 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 00:35:18 ...i don't see any recent problems 00:36:09 oh, i'm blind 00:36:12 i thought http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Language_list&curid=960&diff=33182&oldid=33170 was out of order. 00:36:18 -!- edwardk has joined. 00:36:39 -!- azaq23 has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 00:37:37 so it goes 00:39:26 maybe i should work on 41qys-crawl rather than sitting around on irc 00:41:16 kmc: tell me about a self-delimiting bignum-encoding scheme that is space-efficient and efficient to decode on modern nardware 00:41:17 *hardware 00:43:13 Why does the NES/Famicom lack decimal mode? 00:44:08 because decimal is inferior 00:44:18 elliott___: define self-delimiting 00:44:39 coppro: good question 00:44:40 scratch that one 00:44:52 But it's based on a version of the 6502! That had a BCD mode didn't it? 00:45:07 Deewiant: how is ccbi 00:45:16 elliott___: do you mean that each one encodes its own length somehow? 00:45:22 DHeadshot: Yes that does have BCD mode 00:45:36 coppro: pretty much, yes 00:45:48 coppro: for instance a simple such scheme would be: first bit one means there's more, first bit zero means last byte 00:46:04 right ok 00:46:39 wait, space-efficient 00:46:43 there go all my cool ideas :( 00:46:46 go on anyway 00:46:52 i had the coolest idea 00:46:58 where each bit was 1 if the next bit was in the number 00:47:04 or 0 if the number was over 00:47:12 cute 00:47:21 you've ruined my dreams 00:47:24 coppro: how do you set the first bit 00:47:29 oh, wait, I see 00:47:34 that's more boring than what I was imagining 00:47:49 elliott___: does it need to have efficient operations or something like that? 00:47:53 also what are we decoding to? 00:48:12 also how are we defining efficient? I'm a computer scientist, by my definition it would be pretty damn hard to fail 00:48:20 decoding to... something. an array of machine integers? by efficient I mean "hardware tricks" 00:48:25 thus the "modern hardware" 00:48:33 i asked kmc because he is a bit-twiddly kind of guy 00:48:44 ok 00:48:45 i realised i don't actually need this seconds after asking btw so it remains only for curiosity 00:49:21 oh ok 00:49:24 I have a funner puzzle 00:49:31 go on 00:49:39 int i = something; 00:50:00 ok 00:50:07 trying to remember the next bit ;) 00:50:08 -!- Frooxius|TabletP has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:50:23 -!- edwardk has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 00:51:01 kmc: tell me about a self-delimiting bignum-encoding scheme that is space-efficient and efficient to decode on modern nardware <-- would it kill you to simply use libgmp? 00:51:12 oh wait, that API is terrible 00:51:13 Vorpal: serialising bignum structures to file 00:51:16 ~what a great idea~ 00:51:18 ah 00:51:22 *gmp 00:51:34 oh it it without "lib"? 00:51:35 okay 00:52:13 elliott___, with self-delimiting you mean there can't be a count of bytes first or such? 00:52:20 -!- elliott___ has changed nick to elliott____. 00:52:30 Vorpal: right. 00:52:34 (obviously, since that wouldn't be bignum!) 00:52:41 for (int j = 0; j < i; j=(j+i)&~i) { /* do stuff */ } 00:52:47 what am I iterating over? 00:52:57 elliott____, oh well but you could encode the length of that as a another, different type of bignum :P 00:53:02 well the count of bytes just needs to itself have variable length 00:53:22 elliott____, I would suggest using something like the most significant bit of each 128 bit group or such to indicate if it was the last one 00:53:24 what about that? 00:53:29 or 64-bit group 00:53:32 probably better 00:53:38 (on modern hardware) 00:53:50 that could work, sure 00:53:57 has an important inefficiency 00:54:01 oh? 00:54:04 if the number is 64 bits it takes 128 bits to encode it 00:54:08 but 64 bits is a reasonable range for a number 00:54:11 true 00:54:14 i.e. this penalises power-of-two bits 00:54:42 elliott____, well, you are not going to get more than 64 bits handled efficiently on a 64-bit machine 00:54:44 my suggestion is: first byte 0-127 means that the actual 0-127 payload bytes follow 00:55:00 oerjan, and then what? 00:55:11 oerjan, you can repeat such blocks? 00:55:14 that seems reasonable 00:55:58 oerjan, anyway why 0-127 rather than 0-255? 00:56:16 Vorpal: perhaps for a sign bit 00:56:24 yes but why not do that unsigned... 00:56:33 hm and you don't waste space by an extra null marker unless you have exactly 127 (or 255) bytes in the block 00:56:37 first byte 128-255 means that the next 0-127 bytes are a length describing block in the same way (hm 0-1 is useless here, needs some tweaking) 00:56:44 yeah that sounds reasonable 00:56:50 well, I need to sleep 00:56:58 -!- MSleep has joined. 00:57:54 basically, the first length describing block is 1 byte: if a length describing block has most significant bit 0, it's the length of the payload, otherwise its remaining bits are the length of the _next_ length describing block 00:58:16 oerjan: the numbers are not quite likely to get that big :P 00:58:46 elliott____: i was assuming since you said you couldn't simply have an initial length, that you wanted this to be in principle unbounded 00:58:56 i do 00:59:50 so for a number fitting in realistic memory, there won't be more than 2 length describing blocks 01:00:30 you are free to adjust the chunking and cutoffs to make it more efficient, but that's details 01:00:57 -!- Vorpal has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 01:01:02 -!- edwardk has joined. 01:08:22 -!- edwardk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:08:55 -!- edwardk has joined. 01:14:27 elliott____: umm what 01:14:33 it should not be 01:14:55 ... huh, so it does 01:14:58 BUG! 01:15:01 time to fix! 01:15:02 what 01:15:11 oh 01:15:12 the version thing 01:17:37 ah, I'm missing a colon 01:19:56 ok, FITNR 01:20:13 -!- soundnfury has quit (Quit: back). 01:20:43 -!- soundnfury has joined. 01:21:57 "it works" 01:22:04 "indeed it does" 01:22:38 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 01:22:54 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 01:24:27 "'does it really'" 01:27:21 -!- Frooxius|TabletP has joined. 01:28:33 -!- Tod-Autojoined has changed nick to TodPunk. 01:28:37 «I think so» 01:28:49 “why, doesn't it for you?” 01:29:50 no 01:29:51 hi 01:29:58 `quote 01:29:59 `quote 01:29:59 `quote 01:29:59 `quote 01:30:00 `quote 01:30:06 197) zzo38: A better definition would probably fix Avogadro's number. It's broken? 01:30:10 361) And if they wanted to go for "true" security, they'd just do "Warning: your computer has not been turned into a plasma. This may cause some of your personal data to be stolen. Click here to turn your computer into a ball of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace." 01:30:20 136) (in #irp) Flonk, ask on #esoteric? Sgeo: yeah well its C++, so not that esoteric :P 01:30:20 419) mixing drinks together is like taking all of mozart's works and listening to all of them at once and in general a drink - and most foods - are kind like taking a song and then just taking the average of the notes and listening to it for three minutes. olsner: the point is you don't have to be the composer yourself not everyone knows what sequences of drinks taste the best 01:30:22 803) nortti: fizzie has done some impressive stuff in befunge, which is essentially the two-dimensional version of finnish politics. 01:30:58 imo : 361 or 136 or maybe 803 01:31:14 elliott____: what do you get, then, if not a version response? Still an empty string? 01:31:27 i got a string 01:31:30 the no was at the quotes 01:31:33 they were not acceptable quotes 01:33:06 oh 01:33:18 so there was some other conversation going on as well that I missed 01:34:20 in other news, I've finally got custom widgets working in my GUI toolkit 01:34:41 thanks to the magic of callback function pointers 01:35:49 * soundnfury sleepy 01:35:51 nn all 01:38:03 hi 01:42:43 -!- MSleep has changed nick to MDude. 01:47:02 -!- MDude has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:47:21 -!- MSleep has joined. 02:18:18 What Dungeons&Dragons spell or feat did you want to invent? 02:46:12 I don't know 02:46:14 I didn't invent it 02:48:16 i floor 02:49:31 According to Liberal Crime Squad, I hold some Conserative viewpoints 02:49:40 (Looking through the source) 02:51:40 hi 02:51:42 Sgeo_: you can't capitalize those words 02:51:43 only we can 02:52:00 you get to capitalize democrat and republican instead 02:52:10 (elliott can also capitalize democrat) 02:52:14 I can capitalize Democratic though 02:52:31 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 02:52:35 -!- pikhq has joined. 02:52:39 elliott____: may I suggest a solid s/_//g 02:52:58 s/_/__/g 02:55:48 coppro: no 02:55:52 -!- elliott____ has changed nick to elliott_____. 02:56:28 coppro: surely i can only categorise LibDem 02:57:14 cygwin is so slow :( 02:57:32 -!- david_werecat has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 03:07:15 -!- monqy has joined. 03:10:05 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:15:45 coppro: I mean one that you do want to invent, not the ones that already exists. 03:15:50 I don't know 03:15:57 How would I know what ones I want to invent? 03:20:56 -!- Madoka-Kaname has joined. 03:20:57 -!- Madoka-Kaname has quit (Changing host). 03:20:57 -!- Madoka-Kaname has joined. 03:21:11 -!- Madoka-Kaname has left. 03:22:07 -!- Frooxius|TabletP has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 03:24:26 -!- Frooxius|TabletP has joined. 03:26:40 -!- MDude has joined. 03:30:36 -!- MSleep has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 03:32:47 coppro: I thought maybe you would know, but if you do not know that is OK too. I invented some spells/feats such as "Object Mirroring" spell and "Favored Mercy" feat. 03:42:24 zzo38: if I knew what they were, I would have invented them already 03:45:12 OK. Did you invented any? 03:46:31 * oerjan invents Anvil Fall, the opposite of Feather Fall. not recommended for fragile characters. 03:46:55 someone probably already did, i guess. 03:47:25 Hmm 03:47:41 From http://lcsgame.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/lcsgame/trunk/dev/lawrefrence.cpp?revision=589&view=markup Stalinist looks like a possible outcome, but how? 03:48:15 seems someone used the name at least http://www.thievesguild.cc/spells/index.php?Number=808 03:51:33 zzo38: no 03:52:08 -!- ogrom has joined. 03:57:11 oerjan: OK invent Anvil Fall, more specificly. 03:58:33 zzo38: someone else already did in that link i gave 03:58:44 (not sure if it was d&d specifically) 03:58:57 -!- edwardk has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 03:59:10 No, invent it the way you invent it, I mean. 03:59:47 i don't know enough d&d to give specifics. 04:03:46 Do you like my spell? 04:12:59 -!- ogrom has quit (Quit: begone). 04:21:10 oerjan: Can you give the specifics for Icosahedral RPG? 04:21:21 no. 04:22:07 I wanted to eliminate the d10 from Icosahedral RPG since it is not a Platonic solid, although I decided against it since d10 would be need for too many purposes. 04:22:27 -!- kallisti_ has joined. 04:22:40 -!- kallisti has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 04:22:42 (Instead, I simply mentioned in the rules that d10 is not a Platonic solid.) 04:24:35 a d10 isn't that necessary 04:24:48 a d20 can randomly select from 10 outcomes fairly 04:25:03 Yes it can, but d10 is better to make percentage rolls. 04:27:26 oerjan: i really think you ought to give the specifics for icosahedral rpg 04:28:09 * oerjan murders elliott_____. in his sleep. 04:29:11 -!- Frooxius|TabletP has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 04:29:15 oerjan: how else will zzo38 include it 04:29:25 magic. 04:29:57 From the perspective of the game yes it is magic but from outside of the game we still need to write it down. 04:30:10 -!- Frooxius|TabletP has joined. 04:30:22 oerjan: he has a point. 04:32:13 -!- elliott_____ has quit (Quit: Leaving). 04:32:41 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 04:33:10 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 04:58:07 I have now recorded the last played session of my Dungeons&Dragons game. 04:59:21 Some things will not be revealed in this chapter... you have to wait... such as the reason why Kjugobe has purchased an afro wig 05:08:18 -!- rvchangue has joined. 05:08:31 -!- TeruFSX_ has joined. 05:12:14 -!- edwardk has joined. 05:23:27 -!- MDude has changed nick to MDoze. 05:24:25 haha 05:25:55 there is a US comedy called 30 Rock which revolves around a TV production studio producing a TV show; it gets kind of meta sometimes. Naturally, there was Rule 34 of it. When they wanted to have an episode where the crew was Rule 34ing their show (the show in the show, that is), they hired the real porn actors. 05:27:35 wait, the real porn actors or the porn actors in the show 05:31:38 the real show hired the real porn actors who did porn of the real show to play fake porn actors making fake porn of the fake show 05:32:07 O KAY 05:33:16 so they were already making porn of the real show before they came up with the idea then? 05:33:52 obviously. 05:34:08 * oerjan gets carried away in a nice white jacket 05:38:08 when the heck _is_ girl genius supposed to update anyway 05:40:29 -!- edwardk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:40:33 once upon a time you could reliably expect it at shortly after 4 UTC 05:45:49 it's all right 05:45:53 alinhs 05:46:04 wat 05:47:05 at least it's not 05:47:08 you can fill in the rest 05:47:33 at least it's not lupus 05:49:51 (probably.) 05:50:07 zzo38: Bah, screw restricting yourself to Platonic solids. 05:50:39 zzo38: With cylindrical dice you can have an n-sided die, where n >= 1. 06:10:34 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 06:11:12 Do you think psychology is worse, or not? 06:13:03 To quote someone "No, I don't believe in Astrology. I just carry my sign proudly, if for no other reason than to brag about its characteristics. (most of which don't actually apply to me) And yeah, I think psychology is worse." 06:17:19 GET OUT OF MY CHAIR-Picard 06:48:55 `addquote [with no context] < zzo38> Do you think psychology is worse, or not? 06:51:42 Do you think " `addquote [with no context] < zzo38> Do you think psychology is worse, or not?" is worse, or not? 06:52:25 -!- pikhq has joined. 06:52:40 `addquote < zzo38> Do you think " `addquote [with no context] < zzo38> Do you think psychology is worse, or not?" is worse, or not? 06:52:41 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 06:52:45 849) < zzo38> Do you think " `addquote [with no context] < zzo38> Do you think psychology is worse, or not?" is worse, or not? 06:54:00 -!- asiekierka has joined. 06:54:13 `ls 06:54:15 bin \ canary \ foo \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quotes \ share \ wisdom 06:54:22 `run sed -i '849s/< / No output. 06:54:30 `quote 849 06:54:33 849) Do you think " `addquote [with no context] < zzo38> Do you think psychology is worse, or not?" is worse, or not? 07:07:20 well there is progress 07:08:07 we know that extra-terrestrial bodies are made of gases, solids, liquids etc 07:08:57 itidus21: Well, yes; what else would you expect them to be made of, anyways? 07:11:54 we can make accurate predictions about their distribution and motion, which is also progress 07:12:12 Yes 07:16:33 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 07:20:07 -!- epicmonkey has set topic: CHANNEL CURRENTLY CLOSED DUE TO GODWINNING (NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH GOD WINNING) | last topic change: today | bananas not welcome unless they bring monkeys | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/. 07:22:01 DON'T BELIEVE THE TOPIC IT'S ALL MONKEY PROPAGANDA 07:24:25 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 07:28:21 -!- nooga has joined. 07:42:35 OK 07:42:44 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:44:07 -!- fungot has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 07:44:36 -!- FireFly has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 07:50:09 what's godwinning? 07:50:31 -!- FireFly has joined. 07:51:11 GET OUT OF MY CHAIR-Picard <-- you know, in the first episode of TNG, Picard invites Wesley to sit in his chair 07:52:34 -!- FireFly has quit (Changing host). 07:52:35 -!- FireFly has joined. 07:54:21 olsner: application of godwin's law 07:54:31 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 07:55:41 (of course, just before that there's this "a CHILD!? on MY BRIDGE?" moment followed by "oh, he's your [beverly's] son? go on then") 07:56:25 oh, I've seen that episode 08:15:24 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 08:18:01 oerjan: oh, now I understand what you were answering 08:18:03 ... why the double n though, shouldn't that be spelled godwining? 08:18:40 I was having trouble connecting godwin's law with wesley sitting in picard's chair 08:18:55 God-whining. 08:20:28 olsner: english doubles consonants when necessary to prevent the pronunciation rules from changing the vowels. e.g. -in is pronounced with a short i, while -ining starts with a long one, so you need -inning to keep it short. 08:21:01 except when they don't, but that's the rule i try to follow. 08:21:50 -!- nooga has joined. 08:22:50 somewhat surprising rule given that english in general doesn't seem to care about maintaining any sort of correspondence between spelling and pronunciation 08:23:09 ha 08:23:44 doubled letters are also pronounced differently 08:23:54 if you are speaking slowly 08:23:55 -!- shubshub has joined. 08:23:58 Hi 08:23:59 if you're going quickly they blur 08:24:21 I Have Returned 08:24:41 `pastlog shubshub 08:24:50 huh 08:24:58 JUST CHECKING 08:25:02 `pastlog shubshub 08:25:06 ? 08:25:13 that bot is horribly slow sometimes 08:25:19 No output. 08:25:20 lol 08:25:24 how about using a diaeresis? godwinïng 08:25:30 2012-04-27.txt:07:48:12: C: 08:25:34 ah 08:25:43 lol 08:25:52 shubshub: INDEED YOU HAVE 08:26:08 Im thinking of my million dollar idea 08:26:14 olsner: i don't think the english _do_ that. 08:26:26 Something to do with programming 08:26:50 A Game Which Teaches Programming 08:27:39 oerjan: no, but they could ... I think in swedish you can use : for that and say something like Godwin:ing (except we wouldn't -ing, we'd -otherstuff) 08:28:10 -!- shubshub has quit (Client Quit). 08:28:20 godwin'era? 08:28:24 er 08:28:28 godwin:era? 08:28:33 yeah 08:28:45 or perhaps godwin-era 08:30:45 wikipedia says we use the colon for conjugating numbers, letters and abbreviations (and/or acronyms) 08:31:18 you swedes are so strange >:) 08:32:09 although i do recall seeing that 08:32:56 -!- Vorpal has joined. 08:34:24