< 1341360707 257201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1341363109 307155 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, HI! < 1341363123 204638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellioptter < 1341363498 270379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: what < 1341363498 644748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1341363498 825682 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1341363500 854253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1341363513 957288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what < 1341363882 414989 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, Livonia is a real place??? < 1341363892 681109 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swear Neil Gaiman knows everything. < 1341364521 937631 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1341364557 557066 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang wiki has a page for a langauge called "lambda" but broken link :( < 1341364592 155562 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanted to mention i also wrote a small language I called "lambda" (i know.. join the club).. http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/lambda/ < 1341364633 320024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hewsham < 1341364637 472785 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1341364681 268659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think when there are multiple languages people make pages with the name of the author in parentheses. < 1341364693 189935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. http://esolangs.org/wiki/Clue_(Keymaker) http://esolangs.org/wiki/Clue_(oklopol) < 1341364717 503021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This suggests that you should make a second, unrelated language called "lambda", to cause some real confusion.) < 1341364734 300498 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or change my name to calculus < 1341364829 921553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do that, people might think you're not discreet. < 1341364857 721536 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, ask elliott about the Rules of the Wiki. < 1341364863 951938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "rules plz" < 1341365067 809551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The existing lambda page is very uninformative. < 1341365225 557169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1341366230 13305 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham! < 1341366267 453965 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit it's quarter to four < 1341366270 1365 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1341366659 544921 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Where's news-ham? < 1341366736 10729 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1341366737 173378 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :in hawaii < 1341366851 647598 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :goog maps 96706 < 1341366852 16795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha, why? < 1341366873 840909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the cool zip codes start with 9, copumpkin. < 1341366888 740273 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, 0 seems better to me < 1341366905 74911 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right coasters < 1341366921 511053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like wrong coasters, am I right? < 1341366942 800035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hawaiian names look a bit like Finnish names. < 1341366948 940695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must be all the doubled vowels. < 1341367030 470898 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alphabet: aeiou hklmnpw` (thats not punctuation, thats a gloteral(sp?) stop) < 1341367117 27038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glottal? < 1341367130 814903 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1341367147 953748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :English has glottal stops too, they're just not written. < 1341367152 313489 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, english is nto my first language < 1341367154 9027 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i speak american < 1341367163 974267 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie. i'm dumb < 1341367166 661995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I guess they're only at the beginnings of words, and often slurred. < 1341367183 478802 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we slur our words enough maybe we can be like the french < 1341367194 75467 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drunken latin < 1341367991 585227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm what? < 1341367994 771039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: Hi. What? < 1341368006 250430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, we do disambiguation pages. < 1341368008 902633 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi. < 1341368021 686408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like Lambda (newsham) or Lambda (yourrealnamehere) or whatever and moving the existing Lambda to a similar title would be ideal. < 1341368029 779934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then create a page like http://esolangs.org/wiki/Clue. < 1341368052 530647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our current [[Lambda]] page is bad. < 1341368071 59837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like the Wayback Machine has the page, at least. < 1341368075 826362 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :authors usually add their language to yoru wiki? < 1341368100 7258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. You think more than one person cares about the 5000th brainfuck cipher enough to write a page about it? :) < 1341368117 826224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not saying anything about your language! Just that the wiki would hardly thrive if we had no vanity.) < 1341368136 877761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably upwards of 80% of new pages are authors creating pages for their own languages. < 1341368151 717473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, if you want someone else to write a page that's fine too. Might not happen, though. < 1341368194 960739 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm shocked that the world hasnt taken to writing new phone apps using my interpeter < 1341368382 928707 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1341368475 111533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is pure injustice < 1341368476 625912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Can you guess what newsham's real name is? < 1341368480 984691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it News Ham < 1341368483 150601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :New Sham < 1341368487 754569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ne Wsham < 1341368490 789389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Newsh Am < 1341368506 886898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not want green eggs and ham. I do not want them, Newsh I am! < 1341368600 69156 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :will you eat them with a fox? will you eat them in a box? < 1341368617 148269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :IOUEgg# < 1341369136 751794 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is firefox doing >.< ... i won't abandon it, but apparently it's unaware that it can chill out.. < 1341369151 389097 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?bf >.< < 1341369151 780462 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1341369182 967131 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 page open, more or less standard html... and its using about 15% cpu.. < 1341369183 561364 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone written meaningful prose that executes as an interesting bf program? < 1341369234 775882 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: They play a BF competition game in here. < 1341369256 912744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust HELP I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING++++++[>.<>+>]+ < 1341369266 220325 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for shachaf_HELP: 6.7 < 1341369279 982463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott can tell you the rules. < 1341369297 791552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust, http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust_strategies < 1341369389 303036 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf core wars? < 1341369413 690214 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust tidusthisisntagame >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+<[+<]-[<-+[-]>+[-+]>-][+->+[-<-+>-[+<-]+>]] < 1341369416 343529 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for itidus21_tidusthisisntagame: 2.1 < 1341369453 601811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: not quite core wars < 1341369461 478430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have no access to the other program's source in any way, for instance < 1341369531 426125 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck it, we'll use python 2. Theres no time for python 3. Fuck it. < 1341369581 608453 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :python 3 is the ipv6 of languages < 1341369587 416541 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks around sheepishly.
< 1341369600 331827 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't actually the channel i intended to say that. < 1341369651 252522 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iti: why not? py3 is an esoteric lang, no? < 1341369666 992190 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1341369695 848429 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not really using it to make code, rather to run other peoples code < 1341369756 847116 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. do esoteric language extensions count? sigfpe wrote a py preprocessor which adds monad comprehensions to python < 1341369815 250862 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe thats too useful to be esolang < 1341369916 294443 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm officially barred from determining what's officially esoteric < 1341370135 396526 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1341370658 967041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolangness isn't just a bit. < 1341370663 5317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a continuous scale. < 1341370675 630717 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's measured in esolangstroms. < 1341371091 268071 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1341371660 236573 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1341380159 301324 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1341380267 459845 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1341380386 881315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1341380388 823421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Dovregubben < 1341380399 383677 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dovregubben: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1341380551 647168 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I don't know any esoteric programming languages < 1341380565 916640 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found this channel on a site about Conway's Game of Life < 1341380584 867113 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there's used to be a #gameoflife channel, but there isn't one now < 1341380607 218759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think PH ran that one. < 1341380609 958602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's in here a lot. < 1341380619 818754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Game of Life is pretty much on-topic here. < 1341380634 928802 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is afraid the most esoteric programming language he knows is TI-99/4A BASIC
< 1341380647 474085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also on-topic :P < 1341380662 562881 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this guy is already more qualified than me < 1341380689 569747 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait.... logo would be considered a language, right? < 1341380699 77609 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't seen that in years.... < 1341380702 690928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :logo is a programming language yes < 1341380810 7294 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here know anything about Life? < 1341380854 923929 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dovregubben: make yourself comfortable.. i think you're in the right place < 1341381654 538082 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't. but everyone else does < 1341382040 137921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1341382054 474592 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1341382178 988963 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what qualifies something as a "methuselah?" < 1341382244 638882 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beyond the obvious, I mean < 1341382257 244984 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like... does it have to be assymetrical? < 1341382329 120321 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have to be composed only of one instance of a pattern? < 1341382403 959746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is a specific small configuration that takes many turns to stabilise < 1341382409 750856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"small" is of course subjective, as is "many" < 1341382417 721718 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.... < 1341382422 328961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"More specifically, Martin Gardner defines them as patterns of fewer than ten live cells which take longer than 50 generations to stabilize" < 1341382430 417669 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1341382448 928262 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been goofing around with a pattern of 12 cells that takes 1145 generations to stabilize < 1341382460 92169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/Fred what a good pattern < 1341382465 330938 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't be the first person to discover it < 1341382469 479739 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't find it anywhere < 1341382481 279792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=4610#p4610 nice < 1341382494 344314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dovregubben: take a look at http://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/List_of_long-lived_methuselahs or such, perhaps? < 1341382503 739882 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looked there < 1341382506 559610 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not there < 1341382518 60172 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking maybe because it's symmetrical it's not considered a methuselah? < 1341382520 293363 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pattern is named after Dr. Fred Edison from the "Maniac Mansion" computer game, whose wife was also called "Edna". <-- heh < 1341382526 310884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why symmetrically would matter < 1341382529 720918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*symmetricality < 1341383683 208412 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely wonders what elliott thinks of Tcl
< 1341383798 76659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a language < 1341383814 486658 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-218-141.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about strings < 1341383973 696180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, strings are bad data structures < 1341384102 231000 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, later implementations use good data structures behind the scenes < 1341384247 981982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes because what what we need are low-level languages with high-level implementations < 1341384252 972706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my objection was clearly one of performance < 1341384468 532283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1341385294 503919 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy Birthday America! < 1341385352 83113 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny we call this independence day < 1341385417 719470 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we may have declared independence on July 4, 1776, but the rest of the world didn't recognize us as independent until years later (if at all) < 1341388832 828025 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-138-177.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1341389022 575051 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-159-6.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1341389237 507802 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl seems like it might be a good language for a codenomic < 1341389272 627826 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1341389272 779383 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1341389445 879082 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1341389446 30419 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1341389458 517095 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog tcl < 1341389477 852982 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.5005 < 1341389581 154044 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1341389581 313083 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1341389702 394410 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1341389702 394590 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1341392534 5414 :atehwa!~atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1341392547 773277 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1341392619 558209 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1341393614 275314 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1341394229 586191 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-138-177.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1341394253 299913 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@46.208.235.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1341394350 213481 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-138-177.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1341395053 405983 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1341397929 900632 :yorick_!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1341398172 9719 :yorick!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1341401610 259389 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1341402571 209179 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1341404130 558083 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile in Finland http://youtu.be/8H7Qjp9itF8 < 1341404882 601267 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1341404891 22513 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1341405447 497372 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1341405718 230439 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1341405901 539774 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@46.208.235.230 PART :#esoteric < 1341405901 833396 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@46.208.235.230 QUIT :Quit: john_metcalf < 1341406015 559330 :yorick_!~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick NICK :yorick < 1341408385 794976 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu[Zzz] < 1341410230 549238 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1341410331 359811 :Dovregubben!~kurt@c-67-160-13-34.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1341410876 326016 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@46.208.235.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1341411249 730498 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@46.208.235.230 PART :#esoteric < 1341413381 637089 :Sarajevo!~Sarajevo_@31.176.254.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1341413958 919474 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-67.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1341414009 630443 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-67.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1341414436 307183 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: hi! < 1341416830 237995 :Sarajevo!~Sarajevo_@31.176.254.106 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1341417589 876239 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-67.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1341417715 831543 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8 < 1341418022 855336 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1341418073 487385 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1341418116 740474 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello again! < 1341418267 529393 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1341418422 211900 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1341418608 664586 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :Mystery8anshee < 1341418616 832187 :Mystery8anshee!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1341419385 985721 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back < 1341419977 469798 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1341419989 514705 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1341419994 313859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1341420025 187742 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1341420462 497915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1341420462 979014 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1341420776 721325 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, elliott < 1341420794 146543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haneb, < 1341420796 483129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*. < 1341422948 421301 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1341423734 477890 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net TOPIC #esoteric :Individuals guilty of ruining this channel: itidus21 (ex officio), others (see /list) | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1341423756 930912 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wait, /list lists channels? < 1341423823 327568 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net TOPIC #esoteric :Individuals guilty of ruining this channel: itidus21 (ex officio), others (see /names) | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1341424124 443059 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1341426444 610589 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-138-177.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1341426652 233181 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, danger rooming advice? < 1341426733 672133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1341427085 31862 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1341427249 65693 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 NICK :itidus21 < 1341427344 195250 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, um, what're you having trouble with. < 1341427344 547085 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1341427361 754695 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remembering how big they are and whether shields come before armour < 1341427387 76914 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5x1 with a door at the end, you give them armour, then weapons, then shield. < 1341427394 510539 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1341427399 907072 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1341427535 7414 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-226-65.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1341427651 423954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1341427722 246751 :boily!~boily@74.198.164.63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1341427758 629504 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh also if you're DRing marksdorfs (for survivability) leave out the weapon altogether; they'll train in hammers rather than crossbows. < 1341427775 292766 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ion said 1d 1h 54m 29s ago: Plenty of people have dash cams. < 1341427791 420583 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean they have cameras on their dashboard recording their daily drive? < 1341427794 634219 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why? < 1341427864 455839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Individuals guilty of ruining this channel: itidus21 (ex officio), oerjan (ex cathedra), others (see /names) | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1341427891 307995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote < 1341427891 794946 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makoryu says: Why should people have to change how they think when learning a language with a reputation for changing how you think?! < 1341427913 569390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a conundrum indeed < 1341427919 979218 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1341427990 626304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Danger rooms are another example of the kind of pathological behaviour that victory dancing promotes, incidentally. < 1341428005 335218 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi again < 1341428009 568673 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1341428019 115479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aloha < 1341428039 284146 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any Icelanders in here < 1341428108 642799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eyjafjallajökull < 1341428120 105065 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, I'm watching my untrained army getting utterly trounced by a wombat < 1341428307 557147 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom__hoover: For instance, having more proof than just your word against the other’s in case of a dispute after a crash that wasn’t your fault. < 1341428430 60804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION smells a norwegian troll here
< 1341428460 71234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion isn't trolling, I believe that kind of thing is common in several countries. < 1341428467 961357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except why would a norwegian troll use comcast < 1341428475 482510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, i mean from looking at the logs < 1341428479 114058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1341428479 605927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :link < 1341428510 768375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/2012-07-04.txt HTH < 1341428517 571760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the fuck uses the .txt logs < 1341428522 656390 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me? < 1341428530 938697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1341428534 436417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do, the text was too big on the others < 1341428538 17351 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1341428539 935010 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Habit < 1341428541 791076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the font sizes are identical < 1341428556 566322 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paranoia < 1341428559 927459 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use txt logs < 1341428592 587463 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1341428612 408915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no they're not < 1341428629 295289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course the .txt probably doesn't set any < 1341428654 244787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they ar ethe same for me < 1341428655 779441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*are the < 1341428684 333204 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fear < 1341428731 311550 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Little shop of horrors is on < 1341428738 826741 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So bye < 1341428739 982541 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-74-232.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1341428843 654151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i set the formatted page to use small font size, it becomes about the same character size as the .txt, but still with a lot bigger spacing < 1341428844 215021 :boily!~boily@74.198.164.63 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1341428863 635174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't see any troll in the logs < 1341428865 203045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: any way i mean the troll starting with d and ending with ovregubben < 1341428869 780261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1341428873 284868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you think they are a troll < 1341428917 759488 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133923.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1341428921 236058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: try googling it < 1341428948 49608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1341429930 298185 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@46.208.235.230 QUIT :Quit: john_metcalf < 1341430232 416623 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom__Hoover: Danger rooms are another example of the kind of pathological behaviour that victory dancing promotes, incidentally. < 1341430236 537141 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Victory dancing? < 1341430298 8731 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1341430497 707644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the train-skill-by-using system < 1341430622 467061 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that have to do with victory? Or indeed dancing? < 1341430668 928473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"victory dancing" is the art of repeatedly "dancing" a trivial victory to train a skill < 1341430678 694157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance killing plants repeatedly to train a fighting skill < 1341430912 25535 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway DRs are an example of the system being downright terribly-balanced, so that's hardly the whole of it. < 1341431757 201261 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1341431879 204329 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet Scam Alert: Most "Kickstarter" Projects Just Useless Crap http://youtu.be/qqZ65pUQxyQ < 1341432892 938133 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-226-65.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1341433026 62593 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, they found the Higgs. < 1341433065 833723 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, they found a particle that might be like higgs < 1341433080 233373 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... with high enough probability to publicly say that they might have found it < 1341433092 955779 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU AND YOUR 'SCIENCE' < 1341433143 384971 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :when everyone else was busy going "ewwww, comic sans!" I was reading the text and learned everything < 1341433170 35101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote when everyone else was busy going "ewwww, comic sans!" I was reading the text and learned everything < 1341433178 335733 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :847) when everyone else was busy going "ewwww, comic sans!" I was reading the text and learned everything < 1341433181 482736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :LET THAT BE A LESSON TO ALL < 1341433201 33848 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :let that be printed in comic sans as a lesson to all < 1341433211 898384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then most won't learn it! < 1341434888 548413 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, FWIW the particle is very like the Higgs, apparently. < 1341434956 902594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Wiggs particle < 1341435167 99080 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rich Teas are the worst thing ever. < 1341435175 56750 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133923.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901] < 1341435189 687213 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean a biscuit with 'tea' IN THE NAME that dissolves as soon as it even gets NEAR tea. < 1341435206 377525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost, but not entirely unlike tea. and the higgs boson. < 1341435271 907471 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1341435304 551914 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1341435449 784145 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :super biscuit? < 1341435497 238551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Rich Teas are the worst thing ever. < 1341435499 677798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck this channel. < 1341435500 873545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1341435528 823715 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAN'T DEAL WITH THE HARD TRUTHS EH < 1341435597 846634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he really _does_ have a low tolerance of boring subjects, doesn't he < 1341435667 604531 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we please keep this in the strictly humorous? < 1341436031 735734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION strictly throws Phantom__Hoover into the hummus
< 1341436137 211229 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A flea and a fly in a flue, were trapped and knew not what to do, < 1341436143 651276 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Let us flee', said the fly, 'Let us fly', said the flea, so they flew through a flaw in the flue. < 1341436222 686903 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fleas can't fly. < 1341436426 299368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tragic facts < 1341436432 123179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1341436432 947135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:59:57: he really _does_ have a low tolerance of boring subjects, doesn't he < 1341436439 389676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not boring, Phantom__Hoover is just wrong and abominable scum. < 1341436440 199444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is all. < 1341436440 593156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Die. < 1341436445 702567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"RICH TEA LYF" < 1341436481 628845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it was something immensely important and british. sorry for the misunderstanding. < 1341436482 822529 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might I ask you your opinions of digestives whilst you logread? < 1341436535 660869 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love digestives, if you mean the crackers < 1341436548 99620 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't mean laxatives :-D < 1341436549 787626 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably mean the crackers. < 1341436552 622190 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I pronounce it in Swedish, for hysterical raisins < 1341436576 159724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :vad digestiva dom är(o) < 1341436639 48296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Individuals guilty of ruining this channel: itidus21 (ex officio), oerjan (ex cathedra), olsner (k ex), others (see /names) | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1341436648 2202 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :k ex :D < 1341436662 408362 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :k ex? < 1341436679 184140 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, must you *insist* on making the channel's topic a jab against one of its members? < 1341436683 890134 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION proudly joins the channel ruining crew
< 1341436705 820776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: no, i'm diluting by expansion < 1341436717 526123 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who set the topic to start with? < 1341436787 421776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have to check < 1341436805 268551 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like biscuits with cream filling < 1341436805 772314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs ruining this channel < 1341436838 775757 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1341436841 69231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs ruining this channel < 1341436855 228497 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.4438 < 1341436888 228396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION blames coppro
< 1341436894 990564 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not satisfied < 1341436907 34118 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but .. the log stands to reason < 1341436941 768020 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure it's more complicated story than tat < 1341436993 902696 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok.. i see now < 1341437001 950909 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah coppro started it < 1341437098 249682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seemed reasonable in context < 1341437226 323702 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just thought there was more to it < 1341437397 500906 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 20 years from now you will miss the year 2012 < 1341437486 880343 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the things we complain about now, will seem so great compared to what the future has in store < 1341437546 996497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i think you are overdoing negativity now. < 1341437579 351410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T BLOODY MAKE UP MORE OF IT < 1341437608 803579 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :req. iti be kicked for overbearing, pretentious cynicis, < 1341437611 484820 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cynicism < 1341437618 155045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tempting, tempting :P < 1341437652 290710 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Current projections show a continued increase in population (but a steady decline in the population growth rate), with the global population expected to reach between 7.5 and 10.5 billion by 2050 -- 7.5billion in 2050.. does this data tell me ANYTHING? < 1341437670 735436 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It tells you exactly what it fucking says. < 1341437721 582836 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it basically says that population is likely to not decrease, and not likely to increase more than 3 billion < 1341437736 17784 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if you'd actually try to think for once rather than exposit at length your inability to comprehend anything that isn't handed to you on a platter you could conclude something. < 1341437745 667443 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, it's not that hard! < 1341437763 964661 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep it up and you might move beyond an effective mental age of 10. < 1341437766 467928 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet they actually spent money to reach that data < 1341437787 49798 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course they fucking spent money it's immensely valuable information would you please shut up for once in your life. < 1341438019 573349 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay there is no a vlc version for android < 1341438049 24584 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :still in beta < 1341438059 601283 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no a VLC version for Android?? < 1341438065 695535 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :now* < 1341438066 932813 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :typo < 1341438084 306197 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is futile, that basically only makes sense to people who know something of Scottish slang. < 1341438093 862237 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, XD < 1341438153 769378 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, or who read any Discworld book with the Nac Mac Feegle in it. < 1341438163 302081 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am still waiting my vlc for mac os 9 < 1341438164 378866 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1341438171 712865 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for my < 1341438174 301773 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, are you seriously using OS9. < 1341438185 886635 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not OS9, mac os 9 < 1341438200 742637 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a vlc version for System 7 < 1341438204 918246 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes. but my ppc mac broke < 1341438224 824342 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :vlc for system 6 and macminix 1.5 < 1341438241 716878 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and the beta is currently only for ARMv7 CPUs with Neon (works for me!), though more variants are apparently coming soon < 1341438270 307271 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way does vlc work with minix 2? < 1341438286 790955 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha < 1341438292 358644 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1341438329 724410 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, I have an OS 9 laptop somewhere, not really using it unless I get nostalgic < 1341438339 655609 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8 < 1341438345 434498 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the old Spiderweb Software and Ambrosia games. < 1341438351 945267 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought he meant he had it on his dumpster machine. < 1341438356 522601 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: have you heard of Classilla < 1341438358 126868 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1341438371 567150 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: my dumpster machine has x86 cpu < 1341438384 489825 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, hey you could emulate OS 9 < 1341438387 294758 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :this laptop can do it < 1341438392 369236 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it is very buggy < 1341438396 491489 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :google sheepshaver < 1341438411 865544 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not very fast and it would require me using X < 1341438453 937372 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is buggy, doesn't work for all programs, requires mmap_min_addr=0 to run, and is rather messy to compile. Oh and getting hold of the source of it was hard too < 1341438458 405584 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the project is basically dead < 1341438472 361974 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works for emulating Avernum 1 and Avernum 2 though (sadly not Avernum 3 and later) < 1341438510 782306 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mac OS 9 with irc client with name I cannot remember right now, Classilla, iCab 3.0.5 and Python 2.3 is actually pretty decent < 1341438523 173699 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :emulating System 7 on 68k hardware is much more stable < 1341438530 152684 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :basiliskII can do that < 1341438567 673460 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can believe. I have emulated system 6 on mac classic before and it was pretty stable < 1341438583 182570 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway a core 2 Duo at 2.26 G is more than enough to emulate classic mac os. (System 7 boots in less than a second, OS 9 takes a few seconds, but most seem to be spent waiting for some network IO thingy or such) < 1341438606 175744 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. I have 700MHz pentium III.... < 1341438622 390634 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, no I meant emulating system 7 on 68k hardware, with the emulator running on x86 < 1341438628 484226 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1341438638 194102 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't emulated system 7 on 68k, that would be silly < 1341438665 483109 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm. I meant running sys6 on emulated mac classic on ppc mac < 1341438676 498994 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, anyway BasiliskII (which is also a PITA to compile) might work on your CPU < 1341438699 23930 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea if sheepshaver will work < 1341438701 174197 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :worth a try < 1341438734 603610 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: did you know that you can actually use mini vmac on m68k macs and with it emulate sys7 m68k machine on sys7 m68k machine= < 1341438738 646499 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but setting it up is a an absolute PITA (and of course requires finding an OS 9 install cd image somewhere, wasn't terribly hard, there was a site that specialised in classic mac os abandonware) < 1341438741 863818 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(forgot the name of it) < 1341438762 810382 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :macintosh garden? < 1341438766 507456 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1341438767 948299 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats it < 1341438772 594236 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, hm? I thought mini vmac only did up to system 6? < 1341438774 571601 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1341438782 150447 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the software I'm interested in is PPC < 1341438786 438397 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so sheepshaver it is for me < 1341438800 522609 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have ran sys 7.0 under mini vMac < 1341438815 957869 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know about anything newer < 1341438820 726074 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only wish I could get Escape Velocity or Escape Velocity Override working under emulation < 1341438824 950408 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :those games were awesome < 1341438853 737934 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course, the avernum series is stellar < 1341438947 872199 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :umh. basilishII fails x11 check < 1341438967 348424 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do actually currently have x11 installed' < 1341439009 343580 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, maybe not the development headers? < 1341439010 413039 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or such < 1341439019 768500 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :x11 have a lot of different packages for that < 1341439030 566406 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you mean configure failed? < 1341439034 896837 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :config.log should help < 1341439035 731639 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1341439084 720888 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, hm my ~/src/mac contains a debug build of libsdl. Yeah, it can be annoying to get working... XD < 1341439097 727024 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1341439113 954849 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, that was for sheepshaver though < 1341439121 400231 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh looks like I checked SheepShaver out from CVS? < 1341439153 815001 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, if you are interested in SheepSaver this might be useful: :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.cebix.net:/home/cvs/cebix < 1341439162 460541 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :repo is "SheepShaver" < 1341439167 260929 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :when my iBook g4 still worked I had pretty much built complete netbsd system under ~/src < 1341439194 996497 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, g4? That thing was way more powerful than your current computer < 1341439205 988934 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. is broke < 1341439208 282794 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a first model ibook g3 < 1341439214 701973 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead battery < 1341439222 471005 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the colored ones < 1341439222 831132 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and the power connector is glitchy < 1341439227 252180 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, blue < 1341439238 872153 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you better sit very still when using that computer < 1341439239 86748 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much RAM? what OS? < 1341439275 754614 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. let me quess. it has Mac OS 9? < 1341439277 735948 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, OS 9 (came with OS 8.6 iirc, but my dad got an imac SE at the same time, that came with an OS 9 disc, so I used that to upgrade) < 1341439301 827751 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for RAM, 32 MB built in, 32 MB added < 1341439307 906410 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a whopping total of 64 MB! < 1341439327 19107 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :same amount of ram as I now have < 1341439341 441504 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :300 MHz < 1341439345 898326 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.2 GB disk space < 1341439363 282760 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, which desktop environment do you use? < 1341439365 607393 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :LXDE? < 1341439375 390325 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just a simple window manager? < 1341439378 95355 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :like twm < 1341439385 658595 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use x11. I use links2 -g amd mplayer fbdev < 1341439393 143866 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and < 1341439452 938976 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, you need x11 for basiliskII though < 1341439455 107370 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sheepshaver < 1341439462 817272 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway sheepshaver is going to strain your RAM < 1341439464 782296 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. I have it installed < 1341439466 964290 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :your CPU is probably fine < 1341439506 171645 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes have to use x11 (hv3, netsurf, pygame) and then I either use wwm or mwm < 1341439531 500544 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pygame? < 1341439534 739225 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that a library < 1341439547 809483 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got pygame. < 1341439570 328824 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. pygame uses sdl and requires x11 < 1341439572 199347 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trick is to get the right version.. python 2.6.6 is recommended < 1341439586 871705 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by someone O.o < 1341439592 550042 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have python 2.5.1 < 1341439598 766313 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know :D < 1341439609 711526 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the most important thing is don't get 3.x < 1341439627 206114 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : the trick is to get the right version.. python 2.6.6 is recommended <-- uh? < 1341439640 582753 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway python 2.7 should be fine then < 1341439644 563364 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. < 1341439646 882221 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1341439649 29228 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.x is very different from 2.x < 1341439660 524080 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to port all but trivial programs < 1341439676 198615 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually not too hard to port < 1341439683 96738 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am under the impression that 2.7 might be too far < 1341439693 470642 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i am new to the python world < 1341439693 621748 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you are using the C API < 1341439706 54150 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at least on windows pygame is not thread safe. when I programmed for it I made my own game engine with corountine scheduler as pygame froze wen I tried to use threads :P < 1341439709 936568 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can be a lot of work to port (I have first hand experience of that) < 1341439753 689776 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there a small program for autonmaticaly converting python 2 to python 3? < 1341439769 161570 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, is python ever thread safe? < 1341439779 30784 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses a fucking global lock for the entire interpreter < 1341439794 461360 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres a lot of fun little games made for python 2.x < 1341439798 261429 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :all you can do is make some pure-C routines drop that lock while doing IO tasks and such < 1341439812 362361 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so python is in effect single threaded < 1341439817 355625 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :single core < 1341439846 862588 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anybody ever got grail (pure python web browser) to work? < 1341439860 574442 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pure python web browser? Insane < 1341439868 741462 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPython is slow < 1341439890 407840 :nortti!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. and it is from the python 2.0 era < 1341439895 754106 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :python itself isn't slow. PyPy is like several times faster than CPython < 1341439902 88593 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, PyPy is still slow < 1341439903 472629 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :might as well use mod_rewrite to render the page into a data: png image < 1341439910 737238 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to something like cython < 1341439950 837082 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, to be fair, mod_rewrite is extremely suited to string rewriting, I'm not sure it would perform as good at a task like this < 1341440000 570060 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're "not sure"? :D < 1341440013 642403 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, actually I'm sure it wouldn't < 1341440023 507238 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't have hard evidence to back up that statement < 1341440031 601743 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I haven't tested after all) < 1341440119 720836 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, anyway you can see an order of magnitude speed up using cython instead of cpython < 1341440125 516981 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least for some use cases < 1341440147 973874 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I thought cython was a misspelling of cpython < 1341440154 63560 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1341440220 768149 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, we had a lab at university to implement a reversi AI, the course used python. I implemented a pure python version, it managed to get to 5 ply (using alpha-beta pruning). Then I made a cython version and easily got to 8 ply on the same machine. (There were some limits on how long it was allowed to think about a move, iirc 15 seconds) < 1341440249 827838 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pure C version would probably have performed slightly better than that even (since some python API calls remained) < 1341440258 287762 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a ply < 1341440262 868709 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, a half-move < 1341440270 555583 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a term used in reversi AIs < 1341440295 412535 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, so 2 ply means the AI is looking ahead by one move by itself, and one move by the opponent < 1341440319 770140 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea who invented the word ply for that < 1341440458 396263 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways the calls that remained were fairly expensive, some accesses of a python dict iirc. A 2D C array would have been sufficient and worked well, but that would have meant rewriting the teacher-provided GUI code < 1341440524 854095 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also it would have involved manual memory management) < 1341444715 560400 :nortti_!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1341445406 931189 :nortti_!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :unix v7 is not very well suitable for daily use < 1341445576 492114 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i interpret that as meaning it's best for non-interactive apps like servers < 1341445632 533062 :nortti_!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe. it is pretty light < 1341445638 701268 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1341445656 498785 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1341445659 713780 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ foo \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quotes \ share \ wisdom < 1341445748 481784 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH GOD THE SILENCE < 1341445751 813135 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAKE IT STOP. < 1341445771 302511 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-218-141.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1341445779 212710 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1341445791 260309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHHHH < 1341445796 544209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE'RE BEING SILENT HERE < 1341445801 51292 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO FUCK IT < 1341445806 144551 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM GOING TO MAKE THE WORDS < 1341445811 432199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? kallisti < 1341445814 208700 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti is a former prophet swearing off his pastry deity < 1341445823 139987 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :accurate. < 1341445857 248384 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 20 # hello does this still work? < 1341445863 265128 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ferrito sciallcifor afl gee nov sorthalfp bearlin euesdi expoemlo preconf koele unglebo tobalmi pion pen quolicalloq guidi maufi johan fliously < 1341445865 826936 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesssss < 1341445877 353273 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my #esoteric legacy. < 1341445899 493339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite < 1341446057 797741 :nortti_!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run file `which words` < 1341446061 305794 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/words: a /usr/bin/perl script text executable < 1341446098 268236 :nortti_!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat `which words` | paste < 1341446101 643321 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.27827 < 1341446114 400064 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat paste < 1341446117 9946 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: paste: Is a directory < 1341446117 274821 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat `which paste` < 1341446120 765364 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: `which paste`: No such file or directory < 1341446128 590886 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1341446131 451807 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat `which paste` < 1341446134 611197 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ if [ ! "$1" ] \ then \ PASTE=- \ else \ PASTE="$1" \ fi \ \ PASTENUM="$RANDOM" \ \ mkdir -p $HACKENV/paste \ \ echo 'http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.'"$PASTENUM" \ cat "$PASTE" > $HACKENV/paste/paste."$PASTENUM" < 1341446142 276291 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right. < 1341446162 301896 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run paste `which words` < 1341446165 428604 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.9578 < 1341446171 451828 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: USELESS USE OF CAT POLICE ACTIVATE. < 1341446234 216977 :nortti_!~juhani@a91-154-82-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. I also grep the cat sometimes < 1341446246 505954 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, we all do. < 1341446290 562123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1341446292 658716 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1341446304 895915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also look it up in the repository < 1341446329 136073 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :how.. ordinary. < 1341446364 515477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which url < 1341446367 139879 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/url < 1341446381 112085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run url `which words` < 1341446384 436618 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip//hackenv/bin/words